BOTC is opening our Fall 2013 through Summer 2014 thread covering the Boys 2018 (8th Grade) age group.
In order to introduce this year's thread, we are categorizing this age group's tryouts by date.
8/25, Outlaws, 11:00am
9/7, Team Threshers, 1:00pm
9/7, fl$, 2:00pm
9/7, Turf Island, 5:00pm
9/7, Revolution, 6:00pm
9/8, fl$, 2:00pm
9/8, Team 91, 3:00pm
9/14, Team Threshers, 11:00am
9/14, True Blue, 11:00am
9/15, Outlaws, 8:00am
9/15, Legacy, 10:45am
9/15, Team 91, 12:00pm
9/15, True Blue, 2:00pm
9/21, Legacy, 10:45am
9/21, Jesters, 8:30pm
9/22, Jesters, 8:30pm
9/29, Thunder, 9:00am
9/29, Recon, 8:00pm
10/5, Revolution, 3:00pm
I am not sure what teams my son will tryout for or where he will end up but I do know that every game his team wins will because they were better and wanted it more and the few games they lose will be when they play up or the other team has older kids, my sons team will all be age appropriate for their grade, wish other teams could say the same. No problem with the scheduling of the tourney's we will win but the ones we lose will be ridiculous to have us play so many games in a row yet have such long breaks in between games (oh, and our best players aren't going to be at the games we lose) - my son's teams parents are supportive while the other teams parents are obnoxious (but to the unbiased observer they all seem to be the same)and I promise CageSage that I will complain about every other organizations cost structure and value while never mentioning who I play for or what I play. I will continue to post anonymously, be cause I can and I can't wait for the summer to start.
Still nothing on Express?
Why have a tryout for any of the A teams? I would like to see an invite process for the open spots. That is basically what happens anyway. The core group is the same kids after playing together for a few seasons so just invite to fill the spot.
LI Storm did that one year, tryout for 2 defenseman, 3 middies and 1 attack - great idea from one of the classiest organization out there, problem is that the team did not get better because the weaker kids stayed while the better kids moved on.
The A teams at 91 and Express would mostly be picking from the same kids not so for the B and C teams. Problem is they are now rising 9th graders for summer 2014,not a great time to try and find a spot for a player on the top teams.Also helps for recruiting and camp invites to have a repoire with coaches over time,not easy to jump on an existing team.
Any truth to rumor that 91 coach Sal is hanging it up?
Any truth to rumor that 91 coach Sal is hanging it up?
no truth...unless he wins Powerball....
Any truth to rumor that 91 coach Sal is hanging it up?
no truth...unless he wins Powerball....
I heard a rumor that he is switching spots with the B team coach and Sal will be taking over the White team.
Any truth to rumor that 91 coach Sal is hanging it up?
no truth...unless he wins Powerball....
I heard a rumor that he is switching spots with the B team coach and Sal will be taking over the White team.
It's possible...I know SL's son is going to be playing on white this year....
heard that he was leaving also...
Heard SL was leaving for personal reasons and the B teach coach was going to coach the A team.
The only people who really care if he is coming back or not are the parents of the fringe players who have kept their spot because they are buddies with SL. So let the helmet buying and the lawn cutting begin. You know who you are.
The only people who really care if he is coming back or not are the parents of the fringe players who have kept their spot because they are buddies with SL. So let the helmet buying and the lawn cutting begin. You know who you are.
Hey now!
The only people who really care if he is coming back or not are the parents of the fringe players who have kept their spot because they are buddies with SL. So let the helmet buying and the lawn cutting begin. You know who you are.
Funny....Brilliant...and true.....
The only people who really care if he is coming back or not are the parents of the fringe players who have kept their spot because they are buddies with SL. So let the helmet buying and the lawn cutting begin. You know who you are.
A little venomous. Every team has them. It is just a part of club lacrosse.
The only people who really care if he is coming back or not are the parents of the fringe players who have kept their spot because they are buddies with SL. So let the helmet buying and the lawn cutting begin. You know who you are.
Wow, guess your son was on the B team? I guess you will feel differently with him as your coach now - if true? or will you just type behind his back? And you played where? and coached where? Right, thought so....
Nope son is not on the B team. Wont be my sons Coach. Played Varsity in 10, 11, 12 grade at a perennial Nassau County power house. If you read the post again it was aimed at the parents of the fringe players who have the most to lose. Not SL. I never Coached. Hope I answered all of your questions. If you need help with the definition of perennial let me know.
I answered your questions now answer the same ones about yourself. Now go cut the lawn
I answered your questions now answer the same ones about yourself. Now go cut the lawn
Actually, grass is a perennial.
Somebody let the idiot out from under the rock again?
Somebody let the idiot out from under the rock again?
Would that be igneous, metamorphic or sedimentary?
Just reading through this and couldn't help but chime in. My son plays 2018 Express and we have great games with 91. Parents on both sides nothing but first class during the games.
Then there's the idiot that writes such garbage. What a loser that guy is. Love how he remains anonymous and claims his son played varsity in 10-12 grades for a perennial powerhouse.
CHALLENGE
Take a look in the mirror my friend and look at the fool in the reflection. Just hope your son doesn't end up as pathetic as you.
Just reading through this and couldn't help but chime in. My son plays 2018 Express and we have great games with 91. Parents on both sides nothing but first class during the games.
Then there's the idiot that writes such garbage. What a loser that guy is. Love how he remains anonymous and claims his son played varsity in 10-12 grades for a perennial powerhouse.
CHALLENGE
Take a look in the mirror my friend and look at the fool in the reflection. Just hope your son doesn't end up as pathetic as you.
I believe there is a misinterpretation. the fathers experience was varsity 10-12.
2x HS AllCounty, Division I Lacrosse Scholarship, Coached Pre-K to Post-College Club - Sorry dont feel the need to bash others professions, donations or anything. If you dont coach or cannot afford what others can;maybe, if you have nothing nice to say...say nothing at all? But hey, you played HS lacrosse so at one point you were in the fraternity...respect it.... Let's chalk it up to a bad day... you are really not that mean are you??
Just reading through this and couldn't help but chime in. My son plays 2018 Express and we have great games with 91. Parents on both sides nothing but first class during the games.
Then there's the idiot that writes such garbage. What a loser that guy is. Love how he remains anonymous and claims his son played varsity in 10-12 grades for a perennial powerhouse.
CHALLENGE
Take a look in the mirror my friend and look at the fool in the reflection. Just hope your son doesn't end up as pathetic as you.
I think if you read the first post and then his post, he is giving his own lacrosse credentials when he was asked where he played. If that is the case I am guessing Jim Brown, Three year varsity player for perennial powerhouse Manhasset. And if it is Jim Brown (I think it has to be) what is his problem with SL?
O K Ace please go back and read the post over again. I think that anytime there is a possible coaching change parents of players that have a relationship with the current coach have a good reason to feel uneasy. I believe I referred to them as fringe players. Also it was MY lacrosse career that was questioned and not my sons. I bet you are a 91 parent who is very annoyed that I know what goes on so when your at the tryout look around and try to figure it out. FYI I am ok with mirrors and no rock just a really large nice one. Have a nice day.
SL leaving would be the best thing for that team. I don't think AM ( white coach) is the answer. He's not good enough to know what to do with that much talent. He's basic.
WOW, I am SO glad I am not involved in your organization AT ALL and after reading these comments regarding your coaches (AND THEIR 12/13 YEAR OLD SONS!!) from what I assume are parents with children on the team....I never would be. You are disgraceful and pathetic.
What a coward to talk about 13 yr old kids coaches kids. Jealousy will get you nowhere in life you wimp of a man.
It really is a shame that you have nothing better to do than bash 12/13 year old "KIDS". Your a moron. Both kids mentioned are good players and nice kids. Get a life.
Just reading through this and couldn't help but chime in. My son plays 2018 Express and we have great games with 91. Parents on both sides nothing but first class during the games.
Then there's the idiot that writes such garbage. What a loser that guy is. Love how he remains anonymous and claims his son played varsity in 10-12 grades for a perennial powerhouse.
CHALLENGE
Take a look in the mirror my friend and look at the fool in the reflection. Just hope your son doesn't end up as pathetic as you.
2018 Xtreme - Terps games have been great to watch over the past two years. I am the parent of an Xtreme player, and what goes on on the field when these two teams play is what athletics are supposed to be all about. The level of play is high, the games are intense, the kids play tough but within the rules, the coaches are doing everything they can to win the game, and parent sideline behavior is good. My son loves these games, looks forward to these games, knows a lot of the boys on the Terps team, and when they do camps and other things together, they hang out. What more as a parent could you hope for?
Then you get the anonymous posts from the guy who criticizes Xtreme coaches, kids, make excuses/spins, and puts down other parents for their professions or team involvement with just enough detail to make sure people know who he's disrepecting. You have got to be kidding me. Please stay far, far away from my son - he loves everything about this rivalry, and the further away he is from the 'go negative - get nasty' guys, the better.
Thank God XX son is playing white, he would be lost on Orange. I don't think he's good enough for any color team. Again, coach's pass.
Even as an agnostic I am offended by this post, with all the parochial school connections I would think God would be more concerned with Express rosters then 91's.
As for the faceless critiques of players and coaches have the balls to sign your name. Maybe then we can see if you would write what you do if you had your name behind it or if there were any merit to it. Until then I will speak for my experience with AM and TC who coached 91White and my son. I can not speak more highly of two great men and coaches. My son loved playing for them and learned a lot about the game of lacrosse and being a good teammate from both of these men. Their love and passion for the game is amazing. The commitment they showed to the team and the boys as individuals was incredible. I couldnt have been happier with all the extra work and time they spent with my son. My son was lucky to have had them as coaches. I only can hope he has the opportunity to play for them again. This was my and my sons experience with Team 91. It was a great year Thanks
Alex Moschos
No way he played the game. He sounds like the typical sports dad thats trying to live through his son.
Do you really have to talk about someone's kid like that when some of the kids read this stuff.
I'm sure you are a failure in life.
WOW, I am SO glad I am not involved in your organization AT ALL and after reading these comments regarding your coaches (AND THEIR 12/13 YEAR OLD SONS!!) from what I assume are parents with children on the team....I never would be. You are disgraceful and pathetic.
You really think this is coming from within. Really!!!! Its probably people stirring the pot from other programs. As long as no one puts a name to their post this type of stuff will always happen.
SL leaving would be the best thing for that team. I don't think AM ( white coach) is the answer. He's not good enough to know what to do with that much talent. He's basic.
What a disgrace. I coach for another organization and disagree with a lot of things that 91 does, and wish their directors and some of their coaches would learn what the word humility means. However, why would you attack a specific kid. You should be ashamed of yourself, but you are such D-BAG that you are probably incapable of that emotion.
SL leaving would be the best thing for that team. I don't think AM ( white coach) is the answer. He's not good enough to know what to do with that much talent. He's basic.
I don't think this passes the BOTC posting rules - he is posting team and age and father/coaches initials really is
Identifying youth players. and it is a negative post about these two boys, I hope you would consider taking it down.
Named Individuals : Identifying youth players in a negative or attacking manner by name will not be permitted. Be mindful that such posts will be removed and/or editted by the BOTC Moderators. Identification of adults in posts should be accompanied with substantiated facts and details.
WOW, I am SO glad I am not involved in your organization AT ALL and after reading these comments regarding your coaches (AND THEIR 12/13 YEAR OLD SONS!!) from what I assume are parents with children on the team....I never would be. You are disgraceful and pathetic.
You really think this is coming from within. Really!!!! Its probably people stirring the pot from other programs. As long as no one puts a name to their post this type of stuff will always happen.
I would think it is the parent of a so called "fringe kid" that was cut at the expense of a politically favored player or one that sees the writing on the wall for this year. wait a second. I may be stirring the pot by saying that.
I don't think this passes the BOTC posting rules - he is posting team and age and father/coaches initials really is Identifying youth players. and it is a negative post about these two boys, I hope you would consider taking it down.
Named Individuals : Identifying youth players in a negative or attacking manner by name will not be permitted. Be mindful that such posts will be removed and/or editted by the BOTC Moderators. Identification of adults in posts should be accompanied with substantiated facts and details.
BOTC agrees with you and we have now corrected this situation.
You all may not like the comments but the fact is: it's all TRUE.
SL leaving would be the best thing for that team. I don't think AM ( white coach) is the answer. He's not good enough to know what to do with that much talent. He's basic.
What a disgrace. I coach for another organization and disagree with a lot of things that 91 does, and wish their directors and some of their coaches would learn what the word humility means. However, why would you attack a specific kid. You should be ashamed of yourself, but you are such D-BAG that you are probably incapable of that emotion.
A coach for another organization on this site attacking directors & coaches of the 91 organization is what? Graceful? Did you actually say D-BAG?
Yeah really, why is a coach on these forums anyway.............................. stirring it up??
Can somebody comment about the other 2018 teams. Other than the elite teams. Like the Express Wolverines, Jesters, fl$. Share your experiences re coaching, off-season (fall and winter leagues & OBLL) etc. This is a critical year for this age group. They have a 18 months or so to be fully prepared to compete for a JV spot. Can afford to have a year of going backwards.
Thanks
Wolverines are excellent team. Very good, dedicated coach and talented group of kids.
Jesters looked very well coached and had very solid first team. Depth looked like opportunity.
fl$ seemed hot or cold. Decent amount of talent. Changed coaches mid season. Very athletic team.
91 White was solid all around and very good coaches. Probably best second tier team.
91 Raiders solid as well.
Wolverines are excellent team. Very good, dedicated coach and talented group of kids.
Jesters looked very well coached and had very solid first team. Depth looked like opportunity.
fl$ seemed hot or cold. Decent amount of talent. Changed coaches mid season. Very athletic team.
91 White was solid all around and very good coaches. Probably best second tier team.
91 Raiders solid as well.
If you're son is a strong player, and is looking for an opportunity to play on an up an coming team that will face the best competition, I suggest you give Jester's 2018 a look. Highly dedicated coaches, did lots of extra's at minimal cost. Practiced twice a week, trained over the winter, did OBLL. They will only be stronger this coming year. Team grew tremendously from the beginning of the year to the end.
My son attended 91 tryouts yesterday. He said the boys were told that 91 was planning on putting together 2 "AA" teams for 2014. He did not hear anything about the Raiders - are they done as a team?
3d Blue Chip Invites out for 2018's.. Congrats to all who made it!
3d Blue Chip Invites out for 2018's.. Congrats to all who made it!
can't anyone go to 3d?
How do you get the invites?
3d Blue Chip Invites out for 2018's.. Congrats to all who made it!
can't anyone go to 3d?
Think you needed to apply or be seen, check the website.
My son got the invite - is this worth it?
My son got the invite - is this worth it?
I asked 2017 parents what they thought. They said its the only way for 2018's to get into Jake Reed for next summer. I think it could be a good experience to see how your son stacks up. Also, great practice run playing in higher pressure venue. Reality is, this time next year the recruiting process will begin for some 2018's. I don't agree with it, but we can't deny it either. Personally, I have no expectations at all, I think its a great opportunity to prepare my son for what's coming down the road. I also hear the training and competition are very good. Florida at the end of Jan, could be worse!!
My son also got an invite to the 2018 event. I went back and looked and I am not sure it is worth the expense for this age group.
First, you have to go to florida and then if your picked from that florida group you get to play in July...
One father of a 2017 that played last year told me if there were three or four college coaches there it was a lot. If you are not going for that college exposure, what are you going for?
I admit, it is nice to get the opportunity and makes you feel good, but at this point I am not sure if I am even telling my son. I figure this is a $2000 comitment and I am not sure what is gained for the $2k.???
Anyone have any different thoughts?
Did the e-mails go out to all 600 boys who were accepted nationally?
Was this the east region only?
Or was this one person you are aware of who received an invite?
3d Blue Chip Invites out for 2018's.. Congrats to all who made it!
at this point I am not sure if I am even telling my son.
Are you hoping your son forgets that he applied? Or did you apply for him without telling him?
Shouldn't he be a part of the decision making process?
My son is a 2017 and we went to 3D last January. It was a great experience and my son really enjoyed it. It was three days away in Florida in January with great weather! If your son is a 2018 and youre thinking of going, dont look at it as any kind of recruiting thing. Its basically a play in for Jake Reed summer camp which at the 2018 level has no recruiting value whatsoever.
my son received and invite for both the mid-atlantic and east region.
Did the e-mails go out to all 600 boys who were accepted nationally?
Was this the east region only?
Or was this one person you are aware of who received an invite?
3d Blue Chip Invites out for 2018's.. Congrats to all who made it!
Thanks for the feedback. I did not think that the college recruiting angle was all that big for 2018 - still a bit young even with today's crazy D1 recruiting practices. How good was the January camp? I am guessing the competition was pretty decent - no? Do you feel your son got a lot out of it? Did your son go to the summer camp as well? Thanks again
Not all the the 3d Blue Chip invites are out. They are still vetting. If you applied late, there is a strong chance that you have not heard yet, there is a strong chance your child is still being considered.
I am hoping to hear more from the 2017 parents who took players to Florida last year. Your insight and feedback is exactly what this forum is intended to be about.
Recruiting aspect - general responses so far is that this is not really a recruiting event
Competition Quality? -especially versus Brine NLC and other events billed as elite only?????
Coaching Quality?
Evaluation Process?
We all already know it is very expensive - did anyone spend the extra $300+ to get a highlight tape?
I have heard from a 2017 parent that it was a positive experience last year -- not from a recruiting or exposure standpoint, but from a development/competition standpoint.
One point, which I don't think I have seen mentioned, is exposure to a showcase type event at an early stage. Many kids are used to playing with their top travel teams. They run a set offense, everyone shares the ball and is familiar with each other. I think it is a benefit to break out of that environment and let the player compete in a showcase/tryout type environement where he is not going to be 100% comfortable with his teammates. Having this experience as a 2018 and when the recruiting pressure is not on, seems like a benefit, if you can deal with the cost.
express first tryout today good luck to all the boys.
I have heard from a 2017 parent that it was a positive experience last year -- not from a recruiting or exposure standpoint, but from a development/competition standpoint.
One point, which I don't think I have seen mentioned, is exposure to a showcase type event at an early stage. Many kids are used to playing with their top travel teams. They run a set offense, everyone shares the ball and is familiar with each other. I think it is a benefit to break out of that environment and let the player compete in a showcase/tryout type environement where he is not going to be 100% comfortable with his teammates. Having this experience as a 2018 and when the recruiting pressure is not on, seems like a benefit, if you can deal with the cost.
I am a NJ Dad whose son went to 3D Blue Chip and then made it to the summer Jake Reed event. In my opinion, the event is NOT a recruiting event (even Jake Reed in the summer really isn't yet) nor should you expect it to be given the age. However, it was very well run, combined training/development with the boys' first showcase-type experience which will be valuable down the line, had a great coach to kid ratio, and the competition was pretty darn good. Also, for 8th graders, it is the ONLY way to get to the Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip summer event. That event is definately not the be-all and end-all for 8th graders/rising freshman come summer, but it is a great way to see where your son stands relative to the better players across the country and again get great showcase-type experience. The cost is another matter. Very expensive to do these events, however, if that is not a real issue, I would highly recommend both 3D Blue Chip and Jake Reed if you son is selected.
Not all the the 3d Blue Chip invites are out. They are still vetting. If you applied late, there is a strong chance that you have not heard yet, there is a strong chance your child is still being considered.
I am hoping to hear more from the 2017 parents who took players to Florida last year. Your insight and feedback is exactly what this forum is intended to be about.
Recruiting aspect - general responses so far is that this is not really a recruiting event
Competition Quality? -especially versus Brine NLC and other events billed as elite only?????
Coaching Quality?
Evaluation Process?
We all already know it is very expensive - did anyone spend the extra $300+ to get a highlight tape?
My son is a 2017 and we attended this event last January. On the whole I thought it was a great experience. The competition was top notch and the event was very well organized and there were plenty of coaches and evaluators around. It was a beautiful three days weather wise and it was nice to get away in January. To be clear, this event has NO recruiting value whatsoever! This is a play in event for the summer Jake Reed camp.
On the negative side, my son is a defenseman and I have to say the lack of defensive coaching was somewhat disturbing. The 3D box/field methodology is very heavily offense oriented and the poles got little to no instruction. They are basically on their own for the three days.
Overall, it was a great experience, however for a defensemen, not the best from a coaching standpoint.
How were 2018 Express try-outs?
How were 2018 Express try-outs?
lots of lacrosse players - not a lot of lacrosse played
I think these tryouts need to have a series of cuts - maybe bring back the top 60 and then pick two teams but 120 kids at 1 1/2 hour tryout is silly
How were 2018 Express try-outs?
lots of lacrosse players - not a lot of lacrosse played
I think these tryouts need to have a series of cuts - maybe bring back the top 60 and then pick two teams but 120 kids at 1 1/2 hour tryout is silly
They had maybe 110 kids. The first part was good. Lots of decent drills for about an hour. They scrimaged after that.
Problem was 6 teams of kids. One field. 15-20 minute games. Lots of sitting around for the players not playing the game. Talent was very good. Best I have seen in two years. MC promises more lax next week for the kids. Kellenberg has 3 fields. I expect 2 hours of games. Everyone playing all the time. Rest up....
Yeah I was at the express tryouts 100 kids 10 goalies.
Terps and express kids were most noticeable. Every one else just look about at same level. 3 kids that I noticed was the big middie who plays for express c, the raiders goalie and the middie with jesters helmet on.
Yeah I was at the express tryouts 100 kids 10 goalies.
Terps and express kids were most noticeable. Every one else just look about at same level. 3 kids that I noticed was the big middie who plays for express c, the raiders goalie and the middie with jesters helmet on.
To funny raiders goalie dad.
Yeah I was at the express tryouts 100 kids 10 goalies.
Terps and express kids were most noticeable. Every one else just look about at same level. 3 kids that I noticed was the big middie who plays for express c, the raiders goalie and the middie with jesters helmet on.
To funny raiders goalie dad.
be nice, I was at the tryout as well (my son wears an express bucket) and i did notice the raiders goalie, we was the one wearing the 91 helmet...lol
FYI. Wasn't the raiders goalie.
FYI. Wasn't the raiders goalie.
My son plays for Express and is a defenseman and was on the same team as the goalie with the 91 helmet. He was loud and directed defense better than any goalie. As a result my sons defense was better. Dont think they were scored upon. There was also a jesters defenseman on his line. Great tryout for 2018 players. Look forward to kids playing a lot next week
Wasn't there like 6 teams playing in that full field scrimmage?
My son is a middie from Express who was on a team with a goalie who he said played for the gladiators a year ago. He didn't give up any goals either. He was loud, and controlled the defense, made good clears...
Oh yeah, i am the goalies dad!!!
Give me a break. It was the first tryout. Let them play this weekend and let's see how they do. 13 years old, remember??
There are always good players, especially ones who have played together and those who haven't and also some who aren't ready to step up.
Wasn't there like 6 teams playing in that full field scrimmage?
My son is a middie from Express who was on a team with a goalie who he said played for the gladiators a year ago. He didn't give up any goals either. He was loud, and controlled the defense, made good clears...
Oh yeah, i am the goalies dad!!!
Give me a break. It was the first tryout. Let them play this weekend and let's see how they do. 13 years old, remember??
There are always good players, especially ones who have played together and those who haven't and also some who aren't ready to step up.
Dont get your point. Some guy calls out a kid but says wrong team. Another guy corrects it by stating some facts and now he's playing favorites. This is funny stuff. Just let the coaches decide. Kids all seemed to get along. Kids will play and when its all said and done they will make teams and thats it. Dont get so worked up over it. I dont think MC and JL or any of the other guys making selections read this stuff anyway.
I think you just agreed with the guys point. He was being sarcastic. Just making an assumption that he wasn't the goalies father and was just pointing out exactly what you said, let the kids play, they will make teams and that is it.
It started from the earlier part of the thread where some guy referenced a goalie and another called him out as being the kids parent.
The only people who really care if he is coming back or not are the parents of the fringe players who have kept their spot because they are buddies with SL. So let the helmet buying and the lawn cutting begin. You know who you are.
Hey now!
On the 91 website they still have SL aligned to the Extreme as head coach with AM leaving the White team to be the assistant. JA who coached the 2020 White team is taking over the 2018 White team. That team just went down hill fast......he will ruin that team. Parents will start pulling there kids once they see him in action. Too bad.
The only people who really care if he is coming back or not are the parents of the fringe players who have kept their spot because they are buddies with SL. So let the helmet buying and the lawn cutting begin. You know who you are.
Hey now!
On the 91 website they still have SL aligned to the Extreme as head coach with AM leaving the White team to be the assistant. JA who coached the 2020 White team is taking over the 2018 White team. That team just went down hill fast......he will ruin that team. Parents will start pulling there kids once they see him in action. Too bad.
they just shuffled the coaching chairs
Any input on JA or MH as coaches for 2018 white?
How do u guys think superstar 365 is going to do this year?
Any input on JA or MH as coaches for 2018 white?
Run for the hills like 8 players per year did with 2020
Any input on JA or MH as coaches for 2018 white?
Run for the hills like 8 players per year did with 2020
Bring prepared.....watch you son and many others get ridiculed by JA for making a bad pass. You may want to reconsider the invite.
Ask for your deposit back! One of the most smug,negative coaches I have ever seen. I would question why 91 would promote him to 2018. He is what is wrong with youth sports. He yells at every official, most opposing coaches and his own players.
Maybe his assistant will keep him in check and be positive with the team
He had a good asst with 2020 and made no difference. Whether it is indoor,pal or travel he does the same thing. I am appalled by his behavior I have witnessed on multiple occasions. What is his playing resume?
My son played for him this past year, and none of the comments are what we experienced. He was extremely dedicated to the kids who committed themselves to the team, showed up for practice and put in constant effort. He was dedicated with his time, he never missed a practice, made every effort to set up full winter league along with year round practices. The kids were not yelled at, he taught them what they were doing wrong. His input was very truthful, some may not like that approach, unfortunately you may not always want the honest answer about your kids performance. He gave specific input to each of the kids, I don't think any of the people commenting attended his practices and observed the coaching the boys got, they were not yelled. The only true comments were that had words with the refs, in defense of the boys on the team, but not more than any of the other coaches.
Thanks for the post. Glad it was a different view than the last one!
Ask for your deposit back! One of the most smug,negative coaches I have ever seen. I would question why 91 would promote him to 2018. He is what is wrong with youth sports. He yells at every official, most opposing coaches and his own players.
I disagree with you. I have a son that played for him and loved it. There are two sides to every story and this is my side. Faceless attacks are just that. Could this be a person whos son got cut or didnt get the playing time they thought little johnny should have had. Most probably. I think hes a great coach who is dedicated to his players and makes them accountable.
This couldn't be any further from the truth, he is a complete jack***
This couldn't be any further from the truth, he is a complete jack***
Obviously some like him and some hate him.
Always 2 sides to every story and usually more than that. My son played for ja 2 years ago and we left voluntarily. I felt that although he was good to many kids and families, there was more bad than good. Playing time was not the reason why so many kids left nor from people cut.People left because kids and the parents do not accept abusive behavior to their own kids and who do want others to go foward without open eye. Look at the team pictures from 2 years ago, early last year and at the end of the year. There is a reason for such dramatic turnover. Moving to another progam, I am only upset that we didnt leave this coach earlier. We blinded by medals.
Ask for your deposit back! One of the most smug,negative coaches I have ever seen. I would question why 91 would promote him to 2018. He is what is wrong with youth sports. He yells at every official, most opposing coaches and his own players.
I disagree with you. I have a son that played for him and loved it. There are two sides to every story and this is my side. Faceless attacks are just that. Could this be a person whos son got cut or didnt get the playing time they thought little johnny should have had. Most probably. I think hes a great coach who is dedicated to his players and makes them accountable.
Makes them accountable? Lol.
Damn irresponsible 9 year olds!
This couldn't be any further from the truth, he is a complete jack***
Sounds like those anonymous posts supporting him could be some good PR by the organization. Perhaps even put there by himself. If a poster who was not anonymous came on a supported him, I might believe it. Usually, where there's smoke, there's fire with these guys. On another note, why play for the 91 B team when you could probably make another Club's A team. A team's get most of the organizations attention. They will also play the best competition. I could see if it was Express and you felt pressure because your son was going to Cham or St A's. But 91 B team?
My son played for ja two years ago. It is well documented about his behavior to kids, refs, and everything else. He does have a lot of kids leave, his coaching style is not for everyone.
For what it is worth my son refused to play for him- he was a starter- went to a different organization that was not as talented as ja team last year and had a much better time
This couldn't be any further from the truth, he is a complete jack***
Sounds like those anonymous posts supporting him could be some good PR by the organization. Perhaps even put there by himself. If a poster who was not anonymous came on a supported him, I might believe it. Usually, where there's smoke, there's fire with these guys. On another note, why play for the 91 B team when you could probably make another Club's A team. A team's get most of the organizations attention. They will also play the best competition. I could see if it was Express and you felt pressure because your son was going to Cham or St A's. But 91 B team?
91's B team is better then 90% of the A teams that are out there. That is why you play for them...
So OMG Why is he still coaching for 91 if everyone is complaining how negative and abusive he is to kids or did you say nothing to the director???
This couldn't be any further from the truth, he is a complete jack***
Sounds like those anonymous posts supporting him could be some good PR by the organization. Perhaps even put there by himself. If a poster who was not anonymous came on a supported him, I might believe it. Usually, where there's smoke, there's fire with these guys. On another note, why play for the 91 B team when you could probably make another Club's A team. A team's get most of the organizations attention. They will also play the best competition. I could see if it was Express and you felt pressure because your son was going to Cham or St A's. But 91 B team?
And what about the anonymous posts attacking him. Could it be competition from other clubs. Come on. Your post makes a case for both sides.
This couldn't be any further from the truth, he is a complete jack***
Sounds like those anonymous posts supporting him could be some good PR by the organization. Perhaps even put there by himself. If a poster who was not anonymous came on a supported him, I might believe it. Usually, where there's smoke, there's fire with these guys. On another note, why play for the 91 B team when you could probably make another Club's A team. A team's get most of the organizations attention. They will also play the best competition. I could see if it was Express and you felt pressure because your son was going to Cham or St A's. But 91 B team?
And what about the anonymous posts attacking him. Could it be competition from other clubs. Come on. Your post makes a case for both sides.
Competition from another club.? Are you serious? For what reason? Go watch him in action at any of his PAL or Team 91 games. Everything said is accurate.
This couldn't be any further from the truth, he is a complete jack***
Sounds like those anonymous posts supporting him could be some good PR by the organization. Perhaps even put there by himself. If a poster who was not anonymous came on a supported him, I might believe it. Usually, where there's smoke, there's fire with these guys. On another note, why play for the 91 B team when you could probably make another Club's A team. A team's get most of the organizations attention. They will also play the best competition. I could see if it was Express and you felt pressure because your son was going to Cham or St A's. But 91 B team?
91's B team is better then 90% of the A teams that are out there. That is why you play for them...
How silly. Yeah go win the B bracket at the beach fest blast. It's not about meaningless tournament wins. It's about playing the best competition. Your A team will play the best, your B team won't. That's a fact. They won't play identical schedules. Another clubs A team will play the toughest competition, may not win all the time, but that's how your son will get better, by challenging himself as a player. Your son's travel lacrosse participation should have little or nothing to do with team wins and losses, that's for the business owner. (Club Director) It should be all about your son's personal development and growth as a player. I'd much rather my son be on A team that goes .500 than play on B team and win all the B brackets and easy A bracket tourns.
Any of the Long Island teams attending the Dicks U13 in Florida?
Sorry I dont se a team from anywhere in the US giving the LI or Baltimore teams a game I am talking True U13, and really that list only includes about 4 maybe 5 teams i now it does not answer your question anyone going?
What HS and at what level does JA coach?
ATTENTION DIRECTORS OF 91 SAL AND GEORGE HOPE ALL THIS NEGATIVE ABUSIVE TALK ABOUT COACH JA IS NOT TRUE. BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR TO PLAYERS WHO WANT TO LEARN AND LOVE THE GAME AND PARENTS WHO JUST PAID YOUR DEPOSIT. YOUR ORGANIZATION IS ONE OF THE BEST THAT IS WHY I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE TO COACH IF IT THEY ARE NOT UP TO YOUR HIGH STANDARDS.
ATTENTION DIRECTORS OF 91 SAL AND GEORGE HOPE ALL THIS NEGATIVE ABUSIVE TALK ABOUT COACH JA IS NOT TRUE. BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR TO PLAYERS WHO WANT TO LEARN AND LOVE THE GAME AND PARENTS WHO JUST PAID YOUR DEPOSIT. YOUR ORGANIZATION IS ONE OF THE BEST THAT IS WHY I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE TO COACH IF IT THEY ARE NOT UP TO YOUR HIGH STANDARDS.
6 of you will be asking for your money back
ATTENTION DIRECTORS OF 91 SAL AND GEORGE HOPE ALL THIS NEGATIVE ABUSIVE TALK ABOUT COACH JA IS NOT TRUE. BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR TO PLAYERS WHO WANT TO LEARN AND LOVE THE GAME AND PARENTS WHO JUST PAID YOUR DEPOSIT. YOUR ORGANIZATION IS ONE OF THE BEST THAT IS WHY I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE TO COACH IF IT THEY ARE NOT UP TO YOUR HIGH STANDARDS.
Looks like the organization is taking a hit at 2018. they use to bill it as 2 "A" teams. Now the "second A" team is desimated and players are running for the hills. Extreme players are displaced by kids moving up by talent and nepotism. fl$, Team LI and Express get new platers and new money.
How do you know orange team players are running for hills?
I thought it was ja team running for hills
Probably doesn't realize that 91 now has two a teams at the A level. Those teams are called extreme and orange. They are two different teams. JA now coach's the white team.
after starting this program last year they were close to challenging and beating all the top teams you can name - i have heard that they have upped the game again this year - should be fun to watch
after starting this program last year they were close to challenging and beating all the top teams you can name - i have heard that they have upped the game again this year - should be fun to watch
Umm which program is that?
Any idea how long before Express notifies who made it and who didn't for 2018? They had the final tryouts yesterday at Kellenberg.
Any idea how long before Express notifies who made it and who didn't for 2018? They had the final tryouts yesterday at Kellenberg.
Wednesday they told us. That was controlled lax chaos yesterday. Two tryouts (2018 &2017) and several teams practicing. It was like program day for the Express. Nice to see where this sport has gone.
Any idea how long before Express notifies who made it and who didn't for 2018? They had the final tryouts yesterday at Kellenberg.
Wednesday they told us. That was controlled lax chaos yesterday. Two tryouts (2018 &2017) and several teams practicing. It was like program day for the Express. Nice to see where this sport has gone.
Controlled Chaos??? The 2018 tryout was from 12 to 1:30pm and 2017 from 2 to 3:30pm which during that time on a separate field a practice was being run for some younger teams.... I thought it was run very well and plenty of lacrosse game time for all
after starting this program last year they were close to challenging and beating all the top teams you can name - i have heard that they have upped the game again this year - should be fun to watch
Umm which program is that?
I think its the same guy asking how Superstar 365 looks, maybe answering his own questions.....
I would agree
My son's group went til 1:45pm, wth refs on the field as well as the coaches.
It was done correctly.
Express tryouts are usually well run. However, the Express chaos begins after you get your invite email ...
You might think it easy to determine the following:
1. What "level" your son's team is (B or C ... A teams are told they are A teams, but in the recent past even the top A teams in certain grades were confused).
2. When and where you are practicing and how often.
3. What other Express teams, players and grades will be on the same practice field as your son and his team, and what coaches are running that practice.
4. How many kids are actually on the team roster.
5. What exactly you get for the fee.
6. What is not included, but will be offered (winter, etc.).
7. What the extra costs will be.
Expect the unexpected and be prepared to be unprepared. Surprises await you in Expressland! Been there ...
Not sure which tryout you were at but it appeared to me that they tryout was a little too slow. No chaos, fields too far apart for the evaluators to really look at all the players.
Any idea how long before Express notifies who made it and who didn't for 2018? They had the final tryouts yesterday at Kellenberg.
Wednesday they told us. That was controlled lax chaos yesterday. Two tryouts (2018 &2017) and several teams practicing. It was like program day for the Express. Nice to see where this sport has gone.
Well, emails for terps went out. Having my son on this team for the last few years has been a pleasure. We have always had a well run, competitive and most importantly, fun team environment.
Unlike some of the other posters, we have enjoyed the last few years and have had none of the nonesense that others complain about...My son is happy and loves the game and the team, that is good enough for me. Helps that they win alot, but winning isnt everything.
Good luck to all of your sons.
Well, emails for terps went out. Having my son on this team for the last few years has been a pleasure. We have always had a well run, competitive and most importantly, fun team environment.
Unlike some of the other posters, we have enjoyed the last few years and have had none of the nonesense that others complain about...My son is happy and loves the game and the team, that is good enough for me. Helps that they win alot, but winning isnt everything.
Good luck to all of your sons.
And that is usually the case for the A team... B and C, the poster above is 100 percent on point.
Well, emails for terps went out. Having my son on this team for the last few years has been a pleasure. We have always had a well run, competitive and most importantly, fun team environment.
Unlike some of the other posters, we have enjoyed the last few years and have had none of the nonesense that others complain about...My son is happy and loves the game and the team, that is good enough for me. Helps that they win alot, but winning isnt everything.
Good luck to all of your sons.
You will be missed as would any and all of the kids that will not be together again this year. I can tell you from experience that the boys will continue to be friends on and off the field through HS, it was and is a great group of kids
-BFF
Will the emails for the other teams go out today as well? Do they send emails out if they do not make the team, or only the invitations?
nope - by my kid plays on the team - he is telling me that there is some new blood in there which should turn up the heat a little more on the top tier LI teams - games were all close last year - but no wins - hopefully we can do a little better this year !!
nope - by my kid plays on the team - he is telling me that there is some new blood in there which should turn up the heat a little more on the top tier LI teams - games were all close last year - but no wins - hopefully we can do a little better this year !!
umm again what team are you referring to?
Well, emails for terps went out. Having my son on this team for the last few years has been a pleasure. We have always had a well run, competitive and most importantly, fun team environment.
Unlike some of the other posters, we have enjoyed the last few years and have had none of the nonesense that others complain about...My son is happy and loves the game and the team, that is good enough for me. Helps that they win alot, but winning isnt everything.
Good luck to all of your sons.
You will be missed as would any and all of the kids that will not be together again this year. I can tell you from experience that the boys will continue to be friends on and off the field through HS, it was and is a great group of kids
-BFF
Sorry to give wrong impression above...mine made the team again.
Will the emails for the other teams go out today as well? Do they send emails out if they do not make the team, or only the invitations?
Only invites go out. Most likely all will be out by tomorrow night.
Well, emails for terps went out. Having my son on this team for the last few years has been a pleasure. We have always had a well run, competitive and most importantly, fun team environment.
Unlike some of the other posters, we have enjoyed the last few years and have had none of the nonesense that others complain about...My son is happy and loves the game and the team, that is good enough for me. Helps that they win alot, but winning isnt everything.
Good luck to all of your sons.
You will be missed as would any and all of the kids that will not be together again this year. I can tell you from experience that the boys will continue to be friends on and off the field through HS, it was and is a great group of kids
-BFF
Sorry to give wrong impression above...mine made the team again.
Of course. No Express parent would come on these boards to announce their son didn't make the team.
Well, emails for terps went out. Having my son on this team for the last few years has been a pleasure. We have always had a well run, competitive and most importantly, fun team environment.
Unlike some of the other posters, we have enjoyed the last few years and have had none of the nonesense that others complain about...My son is happy and loves the game and the team, that is good enough for me. Helps that they win alot, but winning isnt everything.
Good luck to all of your sons.
You will be missed as would any and all of the kids that will not be together again this year. I can tell you from experience that the boys will continue to be friends on and off the field through HS, it was and is a great group of kids
-BFF
Sorry to give wrong impression above...mine made the team again.
Of course. No Express parent would come on these boards to announce their son didn't make the team.
If they their kid didn't make the team than they wouldn't be an Express parent.
Well, emails for terps went out. Having my son on this team for the last few years has been a pleasure. We have always had a well run, competitive and most importantly, fun team environment.
Unlike some of the other posters, we have enjoyed the last few years and have had none of the nonesense that others complain about...My son is happy and loves the game and the team, that is good enough for me. Helps that they win alot, but winning isnt everything.
Good luck to all of your sons.
You will be missed as would any and all of the kids that will not be together again this year. I can tell you from experience that the boys will continue to be friends on and off the field through HS, it was and is a great group of kids
-BFF
Sorry to give wrong impression above...mine made the team again.
Of course. No Express parent would come on these boards to announce their son didn't make the team.
If they their kid didn't make the team than they wouldn't be an Express parent.
Dude you have to move on, you moving back and forth between 2018 & 2017 writing negative things is getting old!! Get over it and grow up!
does anyone know if Express sent out all the invites yet for the 2018 teams??
Third team invites have not gone out yet.
Management probably waiting to get all responses for second team first.
So basically invites for Terps and Wolverines went out for 2018 is what you are saying?
Invites for 2018 Piranah's are out as well.
So basically invites for Terps and Wolverines went out for 2018 is what you are saying?
some people have just received 2018 piranha emails
Piranhas are out. They had 3 teams last year and I guess it is the same this year.
The 1st 2017 has now committed. This puts the 2018 class on the clock. Assuming the trend continues we are less than 365 days away from the 1st 2018 commitment to UNC or JHU or UVA!!!
The 1st 2017 has now committed. This puts the 2018 class on the clock. Assuming the trend continues we are less than 365 days away from the 1st 2018 commitment to UNC or JHU or UVA!!!
This time next year, how old will that 2018 lad be? I say 15 as a 9th grader, perhaps turning 16 before the end of 2014. Just as likely a full year hold-back than anything else. He will certainly be able to drive himself to his very first HS game in the Spring of 2015 (if he lives in MD). Unless he played up in HS as an 8th grader, which is a real possibility.
What is unlikely is that a "true" class of 2018 HS freshman will be committing in calendar 2014. Maybe by Spring 2015.
This is how it works gents! Let the games begin.
The 1st 2017 has now committed. This puts the 2018 class on the clock. Assuming the trend continues we are less than 365 days away from the 1st 2018 commitment to UNC or JHU or UVA!!!
This time next year, how old will that 2018 lad be? I say 15 as a 9th grader, perhaps turning 16 before the end of 2014. Just as likely a full year hold-back than anything else. He will certainly be able to drive himself to his very first HS game in the Spring of 2015 (if he lives in MD). Unless he played up in HS as an 8th grader, which is a real possibility.
What is unlikely is that a "true" class of 2018 HS freshman will be committing in calendar 2014. Maybe by Spring 2015.
This is how it works gents! Let the games begin.
I thought age didn't mean anything?
The 1st 2017 has now committed. This puts the 2018 class on the clock. Assuming the trend continues we are less than 365 days away from the 1st 2018 commitment to UNC or JHU or UVA!!!
This trend is going to have to stop at some point because it just does not make sense as both player and coach are taking risks so early in the process. As the growth of the game continues and a larger recruiting pool is established coaches are not going to have to be pressure to make these commitments to kids at such a young age. They can wait it until these kids are either juniors or god forbid seniors before committing because the talent pool is going to be deeper.
Look at the rest of the landscape in college athletics. No sport has freshman and sophmores committing like lacrosse. Why? Because talent in sports like basketball, football, and baseball is spread out across the country and not isolated to 5 states in the northeast. As lacrosse grows across the country, the recruiting pattern will change as well.
It is going to take a couple of coaches from major programs (and subsequently win) waiting to recruit to change this trend but I cannot see how recruiting any earlier is going to help these programs. Kids change not only physically but emotionally and what they believe to be the greatest love at 15 maybe dramatically different in 2 years time.
I would like to agree completely with your post. It is however inappropriate for the 2018 forum. The 1st 2018 will commit in less than 365 days. I am certain.
Perhaps the 1st 2022 will commit as a sophmore or junior. The 1st 2019 may actually commit before the 1st day of classes freshman year. In reality, since the fall club season has not started, this commit may have well committed during this past summer.
The 1st 2017 has now committed. This puts the 2018 class on the clock. Assuming the trend continues we are less than 365 days away from the 1st 2018 commitment to UNC or JHU or UVA!!!
This trend is going to have to stop at some point because it just does not make sense as both player and coach are taking risks so early in the process. As the growth of the game continues and a larger recruiting pool is established coaches are not going to have to be pressure to make these commitments to kids at such a young age. They can wait it until these kids are either juniors or god forbid seniors before committing because the talent pool is going to be deeper.
Look at the rest of the landscape in college athletics. No sport has freshman and sophmores committing like lacrosse. Why? Because talent in sports like basketball, football, and baseball is spread out across the country and not isolated to 5 states in the northeast. As lacrosse grows across the country, the recruiting pattern will change as well.
It is going to take a couple of coaches from major programs (and subsequently win) waiting to recruit to change this trend but I cannot see how recruiting any earlier is going to help these programs. Kids change not only physically but emotionally and what they believe to be the greatest love at 15 maybe dramatically different in 2 years time.
Any input on JA or MH as coaches for 2018 white?
Run for the hills like 8 players per year did with 2020
Just a follow up. They are not coaching the team this year. That said, doesn't anybody have helpful feedback for 91 white?
Any input on JA or MH as coaches for 2018 white?
Run for the hills like 8 players per year did with 2020
Just a follow up. They are not coaching the team this year. That said, doesn't anybody have helpful feedback for 91 white?
2018 White will be probably be a solid B team this year. Last years White is now Orange. Probably a lot of new kids from Raiders and Stampede. Solid organization that everyone wants to play for. I am sure it will be a good season.
Run for the hills. 2018 White is very weak. Coaches ran and so have multiple players.
but the new white is not the white of last year, they are now the new orange and orange is the new extreme (name only). so, orange (formerly white) will have a competitive season.
Run for the hills. 2018 White is very weak. Coaches ran and so have multiple players.
but the new white is not the white of last year, they are now the new orange and orange is the new extreme (name only). so, orange (formerly white) will have a competitive season.
Run for the hills. 2018 White is very weak. Coaches ran and so have multiple players.
Yes this years Orange will have a competitive team. Will actually be very strong 90% of last years white team is on Orange. The White team this year is very weak. It is the Extreme is the A team, Orange B, and White C, Stampede developmental. Lets forget the semantics of AA, and A and so on. In 91 world its just a nice way to put it that your son is on B team but we'll call the A a AA team and the B an A team. Yup its crazy.
91 - Express are so out to make a buck how many teams does 2018 have on 91 - Express ? $$$$$$$$$
91 has four 2018 teams and Express has 3.
And this matters... why? If you don't like it, go to another club that has only 1 team. Both 91 and Express second teams are better than most single club teams. The third teams can hold their own and the fourth team, I know some of the kids, love playing and don't really care, they just do enjoy being with the other players and just have fun, which, by the way, should really be the focus around most of these club teams. Learn to play, play fair, respect each other and have fun.
91 has four 2018 teams and Express has 3.
91 - Express are so out to make a buck how many teams does 2018 have on 91 - Express ? $$$$$$$$$
I never understand the Express money comments. Express is 3 payments of 600. If you want to do the fall (like a lot not all clubs) it is extra. You can opt out if you choose and just pay the 1800. Further, they provide good coaching to teams outside their elite teams. For example, the head coaches at Kellenberg & Chaminade both coach Express B teams.
91 - Express are so out to make a buck how many teams does 2018 have on 91 - Express ? $$$$$$$$$
I never understand the Express money comments. Express is 3 payments of 600. If you want to do the fall (like a lot not all clubs) it is extra. You can opt out if you choose and just pay the 1800. Further, they provide good coaching to teams outside their elite teams. For example, the head coaches at Kellenberg & Chaminade both coach Express B teams.
Just look at these coaches and how many teams they coach A/B means nothing it's all about the money!!!!!!
Does anybody know how the 2018 jesters did at HAVOC
Does anybody know how the 2018 jesters did at HAVOC
Which one? Black (A) team was 1-1 when I left and playing the outlaws again to determine who would play 91 Orange in Championship game. Only 3 teams in A bracket. Green (B) team looks like it has some work to do
Does anybody know how the 2018 jesters did at HAVOC
A team beat Outlaws 6-2, lost to 91 orange by 1, a game they were up by three in, lost to same Outlaw team by 1 in playoff game. Not a bad day. One goal away from Championship. Team will be very tough come summer, they will play everyone tight. Only three teams in A bracket.
[quote=Anonymous]And this matters... why? If you don't like it, go to another club that has only 1 team. Both 91 and Express second teams are better than most single club teams. The third teams can hold their own and the fourth team, I know some of the kids, love playing and don't really care, they just do enjoy being with the other players and just have fun, which, by the way, should really be the focus around most of these club teams. Learn to play, play fair, respect each other and have fun.
[quote=Anonymous]91 has four 2018 teams and Express has 3.
Both have two teams that are A level teams. Them the thirds are solid B teams. Not sure about fourth.
Is it too early to complain about how unfair the upcoming Brine NLC tryouts are?
of course not... complain away!
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
Have you read the 2017 thread from after the roster was annouced following last year's tryout?
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
What is brine nlc tryouts?
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
Was that the player that was mysteriously added to the 2017 Long Island team last year?
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
The kid lives in North Carolina. Coming up to play this summer in some tournaments. There are plenty of good 2018 kids out there that are NOT on the almighty 91 Extreme that will make this team.
What is brine nlc tryouts?
Google it...It is much easier then explaining what it is...
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
Was that the player that was mysteriously added to the 2017 Long Island team last year?
yes it was.
Can someone explain what is the brine national tryout is?
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
The kid lives in North Carolina. Coming up to play this summer in some tournaments. There are plenty of good 2018 kids out there that are NOT on the almighty 91 Extreme that will make this team.
yes you are correct but the point is if a director of Brine's son plays for 91 who do you think will get the nod. A 91 player. From past experience the players selected for this event are usually dominated by the players of the coaches making the selections.
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
The kid lives in North Carolina. Coming up to play this summer in some tournaments. There are plenty of good 2018 kids out there that are NOT on the almighty 91 Extreme that will make this team.
yes you are correct but the point is if a director of Brine's son plays for 91 who do you think will get the nod. A 91 player. From past experience the players selected for this event are usually dominated by the players of the coaches making the selections.
That is 100 percent correct. It happens the same way every year. You'd think Brine, a National Lacrosse brand, would want their name associated with a legit program. Why can't they bring in evaluators from outside the area with no ties to any clubs or High Schools? Should be simple to do?
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
The kid lives in North Carolina. Coming up to play this summer in some tournaments. There are plenty of good 2018 kids out there that are NOT on the almighty 91 Extreme that will make this team.
yes you are correct but the point is if a director of Brine's son plays for 91 who do you think will get the nod. A 91 player. From past experience the players selected for this event are usually dominated by the players of the coaches making the selections.
Excellent Point...I stand corrected!
if they did, they would have to charge a lot more for the tryout/eval as does the 3d organization. who is going to pay airfare and accommodations?
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
The kid lives in North Carolina. Coming up to play this summer in some tournaments. There are plenty of good 2018 kids out there that are NOT on the almighty 91 Extreme that will make this team.
yes you are correct but the point is if a director of Brine's son plays for 91 who do you think will get the nod. A 91 player. From past experience the players selected for this event are usually dominated by the players of the coaches making the selections.
That is 100 percent correct. It happens the same way every year. You'd think Brine, a National Lacrosse brand, would want their name associated with a legit program. Why can't they bring in evaluators from outside the area with no ties to any clubs or High Schools? Should be simple to do?
wow, what a broad generalization, it sounds like you are already making excused for your child and tryouts haven't even happened yet. if brine is in bed with 91, why were there one 2 or 3 91 players 2017/2018 on last years brine nationals team and why were the turtles so represented?
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
i believe Caputo's son is 2019, unless he was playing down with extreme last year.
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
The kid lives in North Carolina. Coming up to play this summer in some tournaments. There are plenty of good 2018 kids out there that are NOT on the almighty 91 Extreme that will make this team.
Brine Nationals is an organization that goes around the country to select locations and holds tryout to for 24 team for middle school and high school, they all get together for four days of training and competition against the other regions at the soccerplex in MD, usually the last week of june thru first week of july. this is truly a great experience for both the MS and HS kids. they really get a chance to see how they measure with what is considered to be the best of other regions.
Can someone explain what is the brine national tryout is?
his younger son played with long island south, his 2018 son played with regional group. check your fact before stating general comments.
i believe Caputo's son is 2019, unless he was playing down with extreme last year.
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
The kid lives in North Carolina. Coming up to play this summer in some tournaments. There are plenty of good 2018 kids out there that are NOT on the almighty 91 Extreme that will make this team.
i believe Caputo's son is 2019, unless he was playing down with extreme last year.
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
The kid lives in North Carolina. Coming up to play this summer in some tournaments. There are plenty of good 2018 kids out there that are NOT on the almighty 91 Extreme that will make this team.
caputos son is 2018. Extreme is 2018. Caputos son plays for Extreme this year.
wow, what a broad generalization, it sounds like you are already making excused for your child and tryouts haven't even happened yet. if brine is in bed with 91, why were there one 2 or 3 91 players 2017/2018 on last years brine nationals team and why were the turtles so represented?
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
Because the coaching representation changes yearly. This year his son plays for 91 Extreme a 2018 team and last year he didn't. No excuses just facts. A lot of players are selected by reputation not performance. Depends on who you play for and who's lawn you mow. Also doesn't hurt to have the directors son play for your team. If two players are close in talent who do you think will get the nod.This is not good for Brine a national brand. Wish they would bring in unbiased evaluators not coaches of local teams.
wow, what a broad generalization, it sounds like you are already making excused for your child and tryouts haven't even happened yet. if brine is in bed with 91, why were there one 2 or 3 91 players 2017/2018 on last years brine nationals team and why were the turtles so represented?
Why do u think tryouts will be unfair? Let's be honest most of the Long Island team will be 2018's. I will be surprised to see 4 or 5 2019's. Who is coaching Long Island team?
More importantly, who are the evaluators and what club affiliation do they have? Then you will be able to determine which kids are pre-determined to make it. Pretty much how it goes every year.
it will be dominated by 91 2018. Caputos son now plays for 91. No chance for anyone else. Plain and simple.
Because the coaching representation changes yearly. This year his son plays for 91 Extreme a 2018 team and last year he didn't. No excuses just facts. A lot of players are selected by reputation not performance. Depends on who you play for and who's lawn you mow. Also doesn't hurt to have the directors son play for your team. If two players are close in talent who do you think will get the nod.This is not good for Brine a national brand. Wish they would bring in unbiased evaluators not coaches of local teams.
You're 100 percent correct. Last year in the HS tryout they had local HS coaches, not from strong programs. Just so happens 3 or 4 players from each HS coach got on the team. Imagine the chances??? It seems so simple to get non biased evaluators from outside the area. Certainly enough money involved to make that happen. Bit of a sham job... Good lesson for the kids in "it's who you know, not what you know". Happens in every facet of life.
the problem is it is an open tryout Anyone with checkbook can register. Given the number of players who need to be evaluated, there is a very high likelihood a great player can be missed and a marginal player can sneak by the evaluators
I actually think previous knowledge of player strength and weakness provides an improved evaluation process.
If this was not the case, colleges would not need to recruit they could simply tell interested HS school seniors to show up one weekend for a tryout and pick a recruit list from their own blind tryout
the problem is it is an open tryout Anyone with checkbook can register. Given the number of players who need to be evaluated, there is a very high likelihood a great player can be missed and a marginal player can sneak by the evaluators
I actually think previous knowledge of player strength and weakness provides an improved evaluation process.
If this was not the case, colleges would not need to recruit they could simply tell interested HS school seniors to show up one weekend for a tryout and pick a recruit list from their own blind tryout
Actually this year they limited it to 150 for 2018,2019,and 2020. Lets see if they actually do this. Just wish tryout was fair and not predetermined. It seems too often that players that play for the coaches doing the evaluations make it. There were a bunch last year.
Then what about a great player that can't get on a big name A team because they still ccarry the coaches kid or the few that have been on the team since 4th grade. Open tryout gives ALL kids an fair chance. What are you afraid of ?
Then what about a great player that can't get on a big name A team because they still ccarry the coaches kid or the few that have been on the team since 4th grade. Open tryout gives ALL kids an fair chance. What are you afraid of ?
An open tryout gives all a FAIR chance when the evaluators are not told which kids to pick, or pick those kids from their club. What don't you understand? Nothing to be afraid of... Just facing facts. There are kids that are on teams other than 91 xtreme that are just as big strong and talented. Just because they don't get picked for this sham team doesn't mean they won't get recruited in the coming years. No big deal. I promise you no college coach is going to recruit your son in the coming years just because he played on a certain team. The player needs to show his talent. This is why the individual showcases are becoming the venue of choice for many college coaches.
When nepotism exists, those positions filled unfairly will take away roster spots from deserving players regardless of the tryout method used. There are other points to consider too:
-Not all players with connections are undeserving of their roster spots.
-A two hour tryout is never fair considering that two hours is not a very long time. It is nearly impossible to whittle down from 150 to 25 (or even 50) with only two hours worth of lacrosse.
-A poor player can hide their weak spots for two hours
-A great player can lack the reps to showcase their greatness
-Height/Size is the 1st thing coaches will notice and I can tell you the team will be a lot taller than it should be given not all lacrosse skill, talent and heart is derived from height
A strong player should want both their two hour performance and their overall resume taken into consideration for team selection
When nepotism exists, those positions filled unfairly will take away roster spots from deserving players regardless of the tryout method used. There are other points to consider too:
-Not all players with connections are undeserving of their roster spots.
-A two hour tryout is never fair considering that two hours is not a very long time. It is nearly impossible to whittle down from 150 to 25 (or even 50) with only two hours worth of lacrosse.
-A poor player can hide their weak spots for two hours
-A great player can lack the reps to showcase their greatness
-Height/Size is the 1st thing coaches will notice and I can tell you the team will be a lot taller than it should be given not all lacrosse skill, talent and heart is derived from height
A strong player should want both their two hour performance and their overall resume taken into consideration for team selection
I posted above. Please understand I am not inferring that all spots will be undeserving. Most will be very deserving. I agree with many of your points. Your point about size and hieght is interesting. It should be noted that the D1 landscape is changing in favor of bigger stonger players. As mentioned on this forum before, D1 lax is drawing more athletes that formerly would have pursed D1 football. Hence the size is ever increasing of the players being recruited. Just take a look at Lacrosse magazine that just came out. Front cover is dedicated to the training that College Lax players are doing. They are lifting like football players. I also understand that there are exceptions, and smaller sized players with insane skills can still compete at the highest level. (Sankey, Mathies) However the overall trend is towards bigger, stronger, faster players. To the posters point, this team will most likely echo the trend as it realtes to the size of the players chosen
Has anyone else been on the 3d website recently? The application page shows that most grades/positions are still open.
Applications were orginally due the end of August with notificiations in mid-September. Very disappointed that this "highly competitive" event is not sold out.
Of course the registration fee which we eagerly paid back in September is non-refundable.
I have heard from a 2017 parent that it was a positive experience last year -- not from a recruiting or exposure standpoint, but from a development/competition standpoint.
One point, which I don't think I have seen mentioned, is exposure to a showcase type event at an early stage. Many kids are used to playing with their top travel teams. They run a set offense, everyone shares the ball and is familiar with each other. I think it is a benefit to break out of that environment and let the player compete in a showcase/tryout type environement where he is not going to be 100% comfortable with his teammates. Having this experience as a 2018 and when the recruiting pressure is not on, seems like a benefit, if you can deal with the cost.
I am a NJ Dad whose son went to 3D Blue Chip and then made it to the summer Jake Reed event. In my opinion, the event is NOT a recruiting event (even Jake Reed in the summer really isn't yet) nor should you expect it to be given the age. However, it was very well run, combined training/development with the boys' first showcase-type experience which will be valuable down the line, had a great coach to kid ratio, and the competition was pretty darn good. Also, for 8th graders, it is the ONLY way to get to the Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip summer event. That event is definately not the be-all and end-all for 8th graders/rising freshman come summer, but it is a great way to see where your son stands relative to the better players across the country and again get great showcase-type experience. The cost is another matter. Very expensive to do these events, however, if that is not a real issue, I would highly recommend both 3D Blue Chip and Jake Reed if you son is selected.
What is the appropriate number of times to hold your child back in order to get D1 looks?
I already red-shirted my boy in Kindergarten and will consider reclassifying him at the end of 8th grade.
Of course he is ready to do a post grad year at the end of HS.
-Typical Maryland Lax Dad
Is there a round robin this weekend comprised of some the elite 2018 teams? Does anybody have info. Should be some quality lax.
What is the appropriate number of times to hold your child back in order to get D1 looks?
I already red-shirted my boy in Kindergarten and will consider reclassifying him at the end of 8th grade.
Of course he is ready to do a post grad year at the end of HS.
-Typical Maryland Lax Dad
He'll be at the drinking age as a freshman
Bulldog Fall Classic (youth is saturday only) - mostly New England teams will have Team 91
fl$ in 3D (both days) - mostly MD teams will have fl$ (obviously)
both sites have team lists
Yes At Kellenberg on Sunday. Express, 91, Team LI.
Yes At Kellenberg on Sunday. Express, 91, Team LI.
No it's express, 91, dukes, and superstar 365
Yes At Kellenberg on Sunday. Express, 91, Team LI.
No it's express, 91, dukes, and superstar 365
And it's at Mitchell Field at 10am. Should be some good laxin
Team LI also in the mix. Should be fun.
where is the schedule for this tournament and what is the name that is happening Sunday at Mitchell Field or Kellenberg
this is not a tourney - it is a play date, couple of teams coming together for a round robin
where is the schedule for this tournament and what is the name that is happening Sunday at Mitchell Field or Kellenberg
Just some elite teams getting together for some lax.
thats great love to watch some games. what time are the games and where? playing at Mitchell or Kellenberg
thats great love to watch some games. what time are the games and where? playing at Mitchell or Kellenberg
mitchell starting at 10
Team LI also in the mix. Should be fun.
Not even close to same level!!
thats great love to watch some games. what time are the games and where? playing at Mitchell or Kellenberg
mitchell starting at 10
So how did the games go? Any one team dominate?
Would Team LI stop shooting their mouths off that 91 dodged them last year. Seriously you're embarrassing yourselves. 91 has their tournaments on the website early enough and did most of the same tournaments as the year before. So come and join them.
What changed? Team LI decided to go U. The industry is going grade based if you haven't noticed. Stop crying that everyone is cheating already. 91 played bigger (older) grade based teams and didn't cry about it, even after losing one of them. It's all about good lacrosse, win or lose.
91 played the best teams in the country last year at various tournaments. Played Express 3 or 4 times, who handily beat Team LI in the winter. Why would 91 be dodging you????
Would Team LI stop shooting their mouths off that 91 dodged them last year. Seriously you're embarrassing yourselves. 91 has their tournaments on the website early enough and did most of the same tournaments as the year before. So come and join them.
What changed? Team LI decided to go U. The industry is going grade based if you haven't noticed. Stop crying that everyone is cheating already. 91 played bigger (older) grade based teams and didn't cry about it, even after losing one of them. It's all about good lacrosse, win or lose.
91 played the best teams in the country last year at various tournaments. Played Express 3 or 4 times, who handily beat Team LI in the winter. Why would 91 be dodging you????
Ok. Who cares?
How did the games go yesterday? That was a good group of teams. Son not on any of those teams. Just wondering how they went? No negativity here, just the father of a 2018 with general lacrosse interest. Thx.
Would Team LI stop shooting their mouths off that 91 dodged them last year. Seriously you're embarrassing yourselves. 91 has their tournaments on the website early enough and did most of the same tournaments as the year before. So come and join them.
What changed? Team LI decided to go U. The industry is going grade based if you haven't noticed. Stop crying that everyone is cheating already. 91 played bigger (older) grade based teams and didn't cry about it, even after losing one of them. It's all about good lacrosse, win or lose.
91 played the best teams in the country last year at various tournaments. Played Express 3 or 4 times, who handily beat Team LI in the winter. Why would 91 be dodging you????
Ok. Who cares?
How did the games go yesterday? That was a good group of teams. Son not on any of those teams. Just wondering how they went? No negativity here, just the father of a 2018 with general lacrosse interest. Thx.
Watched the game between 2018 91 and Express Terps. I believe the score was 5 or 6 to 2 in favor of 91. Goals scored by 91 were 3 from Cuttin 1 Banford and 1 Caputo that I saw. Could have been more But didnt see them goals scored by Terps were in 2nd half. 91 was a bit bigger and stronger. Skills set of both these teams is amazing to watch. My son does not play for either of these programs but wanted to see the best play. Great game by both teams.
365 8-6 over terps , TLI 13-3 over terps.
365 8-6 over terps , TLI 13-3 over terps.
Team LI played? What happened to Dukes?
91 went 3 and 0 beat TERPS 6 2, 365 8 3 and dukes 10 5. Great completion and great day
Isn't Team LI an U-15 Team with ninth graders on it ?
Isn't Team LI an U-15 Team with ninth graders on it ?
No they are a u - 14 team. They have 3 or 4) young 9th graders that would be in 8th grade if their parents held them back like most of the other kids who are playing on the 2018 teams. The age breakdown is the same. In other words it's a fair fight!
Wondering if that was a mixed team for the Terps? Looked to have some smaller kids on the team. I know some of the regulars were there, while I noticed at least one pole missing from last year.
Isn't Team LI an U-15 Team with ninth graders on it ?
No they are a u - 14 team. They have 3 or 4) young 9th graders that would be in 8th grade if their parents held them back like most of the other kids who are playing on the 2018 teams. The age breakdown is the same. In other words it's a fair fight!
Oh. They would be 8th graders "if" they were held back. So they are actually HS kids playing against 8th graders. That clears things up. You play up to the grade of oldest player. u14? I've never seen a u 14 bracket in a tournent. Our 2018 went from u13 right to u15
Terps got beat in every game...My son is on the team and the boys (mine included) didn't play well. Sloppy and slow. Some days the ball doesnt bounce your way.
Lost to 91, dukes, 365 and Team li. First time in our 4 years to have lost 4 in a row...
Boys never quit so so that sloppy play will be a lesson to them.
Great competition and importantly, all parents and kids were well behaved...
They were born after August 31st, 1999. That is US Lacrosse's definition for U14. If understanding this concept is really that difficult, I suggest that you invest in tutors for your son. US Lacrosse wants age based, not grade based play. Red-shirt Kindergarten, 8th grade I in Public School, Eighth grade II in Catholic school. 2016 becomes 2018. Don't wine about getting beaten by kids the same age or younger just because their parents follow NYS educational guidelines instead of making up their own.
Isn't Team LI an U-15 Team with ninth graders on it ?
No they are a u - 14 team. They have 3 or 4) young 9th graders that would be in 8th grade if their parents held them back like most of the other kids who are playing on the 2018 teams. The age breakdown is the same. In other words it's a fair fight!
Oh. They would be 8th graders "if" they were held back. So they are actually HS kids playing against 8th graders. That clears things up. You play up to the grade of oldest player. u14? I've never seen a u 14 bracket in a tournent. Our 2018 went from u13 right to u15
So where are your 8th graders playing this year ?? They don't qualify for u13?? Oh ,guess that would be u15 then.
Check your website were every kid is listed as u14 eligible. Assuming this is a 91 parent who is the only team that doesn't understand, what the [lacrosse] does the grade matter if the kids are the same age. Does taking algebra help their lax game ?
Team made up of players born on or after 9/1/99. The U-15 team is made up of players born on or after 9/1/98. Both teams play U-15 because there are no U-14 bracket. U-14 team will play U-15 for 2 years then move to U-17. System keeps the teams together year to year.
Isn't Team LI an U-15 Team with ninth graders on it ?
No they are a u - 14 team. They have 3 or 4) young 9th graders that would be in 8th grade if their parents held them back like most of the other kids who are playing on the 2018 teams. The age breakdown is the same. In other words it's a fair fight!
Oh. They would be 8th graders "if" they were held back. So they are actually HS kids playing against 8th graders. That clears things up. You play up to the grade of oldest player. u14? I've never seen a u 14 bracket in a tournent. Our 2018 went from u13 right to u15
There are 5 8th graders on the u15 team. I know one of the players. The rest are in 9th grade. Fact!
Isn't Team LI an U-15 Team with ninth graders on it ?
No they are a u - 14 team. They have 3 or 4) young 9th graders that would be in 8th grade if their parents held them back like most of the other kids who are playing on the 2018 teams. The age breakdown is the same. In other words it's a fair fight!
Oh. They would be 8th graders "if" they were held back. So they are actually HS kids playing against 8th graders. That clears things up. You play up to the grade of oldest player. u14? I've never seen a u 14 bracket in a tournent. Our 2018 went from u13 right to u15
Ok let me get this straight, you are complaining that you have to play kids that are the SAME age as kids on your team? Are you upset that you may not get the full advantage for your son you thought you would have had by holing him back? FYI if you didn't hold him back he would be playing in High School too genius! But that is ok because you say so? comical. Just for fun, go ask the parents of the 2018 Elite teams how many kids they have that were born in 1999. Then go look at the Dukes roster and all the Maryland teams then tell me how unfair TLI is!
Isn't Team LI an U-15 Team with ninth graders on it ?
No they are a u - 14 team. They have 3 or 4) young 9th graders that would be in 8th grade if their parents held them back like most of the other kids who are playing on the 2018 teams. The age breakdown is the same. In other words it's a fair fight!
Oh. They would be 8th graders "if" they were held back. So they are actually HS kids playing against 8th graders. That clears things up. You play up to the grade of oldest player. u14? I've never seen a u 14 bracket in a tournent. Our 2018 went from u13 right to u15
Yes you are right an that's why last year TLI played in the 2017 bracket in the grade level tournaments and the U-13 in the others. It is a shame they weren't allowed in the 2018 (because the kids are the same AGE) because it would have made for better competition for all the kids.
Isn't Team LI an U-15 Team with ninth graders on it ?
No they are a u - 14 team. They have 3 or 4) young 9th graders that would be in 8th grade if their parents held them back like most of the other kids who are playing on the 2018 teams. The age breakdown is the same. In other words it's a fair fight!
Oh. They would be 8th graders "if" they were held back. So they are actually HS kids playing against 8th graders. That clears things up. You play up to the grade of oldest player. u14? I've never seen a u 14 bracket in a tournent. Our 2018 went from u13 right to u15
There are 5 8th graders on the u15 team. I know one of the players. The rest are in 9th grade. Fact!
I think you have this backwards , unless your talking about a different team, team Long Island u14 whites has about 4 or 5 9th graders on the team , the rest are 8th.
Terps got beat in every game...My son is on the team and the boys (mine included) didn't play well. Sloppy and slow. Some days the ball doesnt bounce your way.
Lost to 91, dukes, 365 and Team li. First time in our 4 years to have lost 4 in a row...
Boys never quit so so that sloppy play will be a lesson to them.
Great competition and importantly, all parents and kids were well behaved...
Channy will get them playing well, overall good team and a great coach. Just a few fall ball games.
This conversation is very repetitive but always entertaining
Rules governing US Lacrosse - U-14 does not exist but often U-15B is assumed to be U-14
Age based event - grade does not matter and team is placed based on age of oldest player
Grade based event - grade does not matter team is placed based on highest grade of its players
Informal playday - coaches have evaluated each other's squads and agree that the scrimmaging is in the best interest of the participants of both teams (perhaps with knowledge of each other's irregular roster players)
In all events tournament directors have accountability to enforce rules and allowance to slightly bend them. Within reason this happens everywhere (especially Maryland - LOL) - once a tournament director decides it is okay for a given team to play in a given bracket, that team is no longer playing down regardless of what the bracket is called.
Alternatively, if a club or parent were to misrepresent the age and/or grade of their players and work outside the rules, they are creating an unsafe playing field and opening themselves up to accuastions of fraud and in the extreme reckless endangerment
Wondering if that was a mixed team for the Terps? Looked to have some smaller kids on the team. I know some of the regulars were there, while I noticed at least one pole missing from last year.
Not a mixed team two or three players on Terps are very small. Very skilled but their lack of size right now is hurting them. Watched the 91 and Terp 2018 game and both teams also have some very big boys for their age group. I know two players who are 2018 on 91 because my son is friends with both of them and they are easily over 6 foot and two attack for the Terps are very small so it looked really like the size diference was even greater when they were playing at the same time.
This conversation is very repetitive but always entertaining
Rules governing US Lacrosse - U-14 does not exist but often U-15B is assumed to be U-14
Age based event - grade does not matter and team is placed based on age of oldest player
Grade based event - grade does not matter team is placed based on highest grade of its players
Informal playday - coaches have evaluated each other's squads and agree that the scrimmaging is in the best interest of the participants of both teams (perhaps with knowledge of each other's irregular roster players)
In all events tournament directors have accountability to enforce rules and allowance to slightly bend them. Within reason this happens everywhere (especially Maryland - LOL) - once a tournament director decides it is okay for a given team to play in a given bracket, that team is no longer playing down regardless of what the bracket is called.
Alternatively, if a club or parent were to misrepresent the age and/or grade of their players and work outside the rules, they are creating an unsafe playing field and opening themselves up to accuastions of fraud and in the extreme reckless endangerment
...In all events tournament directors have accountability to enforce rules and allowance to slightly bend them. Within reason this happens everywhere (especially Maryland - LOL) - once a tournament director decides it is okay for a given team to play in a given bracket, that team is no longer playing down regardless of what the bracket is called.
I ma not sure about that one. Who is ensuring the tournament. They are the ones who have made the parameters. and those parameters are not to be bent or discretionary.
Isn't Team LI an U-15 Team with ninth graders on it ?
No they are a u - 14 team. They have 3 or 4) young 9th graders that would be in 8th grade if their parents held them back like most of the other kids who are playing on the 2018 teams. The age breakdown is the same. In other words it's a fair fight!
Our team is mostly born in 2000 and we play as 2018, under your logic we should be entering them in girls 2019 tournaments because if we held him back like they do in Maryland and they didn't have testicles they would be a 2019 girls
The age versus grade discussion was a big topic at Kellenberg yesterday - here are a few thoughts:
1. 2018 LI club teams are basically grade based. TLI has a handful of 9th graders, but they are young ninth graders. Express apparently has a couple of ninth graders too. Whether they do or don't isn't my point - my point is that when 91/TLI/Express play, kids are basically the same age; the disputes can be measured in months and whether someone stayed back by a month or two. It's one of the best things about LI lax - it is a pretty fair playing field on the issue of age.
2. The rest of the lax world - Baltimore, Philadelphia, Boston to name three spots - is also grade based, but many of those kids go to private schools and stay back a year or start formal schooling later. Anyone who watched the 8th grade Dukes team play any of the other teams yesterday could have seen this. Apparently there are four 1998 birthdate 8th graders on that team. They were very mature and much larger than Express, 91 or Superstar - it was really obvious.
3. US Lacrosse may want age based lacrosse, but the world is going grade based. College coaches don't care how old you are - they care what grade you're in.
4. So what does it mean? Well, if you play for a LI club team, be prepared to be playing against older kids when you leave the island. The age discrepancies between the big LI clubs are way less than they are between LI clubs and those of other metropolitan areas. When LI clubs play against Dukes, Crabs and Laxachusetts they are playing against older kids, and it's only going to get worse.
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This conversation is very repetitive but always entertaining
Rules governing US Lacrosse - U-14 does not exist but often U-15B is assumed to be U-14
Age based event - grade does not matter and team is placed based on age of oldest player
Grade based event - grade does not matter team is placed based on highest grade of its players
Informal playday - coaches have evaluated each other's squads and agree that the scrimmaging is in the best interest of the participants of both teams (perhaps with knowledge of each other's irregular roster players)
In all events tournament directors have accountability to enforce rules and allowance to slightly bend them. Within reason this happens everywhere (especially Maryland - LOL) - once a tournament director decides it is okay for a given team to play in a given bracket, that team is no longer playing down regardless of what the bracket is called.
Alternatively, if a club or parent were to misrepresent the age and/or grade of their players and work outside the rules, they are creating an unsafe playing field and opening themselves up to accuastions of fraud and in the extreme reckless endangerment
Best sum up of the age vs grade based debate yet. Well put
Team LI also in the mix. Should be fun.
Not even close to same level!!
Really? as who?
Team LI also in the mix. Should be fun.
Not even close to same level!!
Really? as who?
How did they do?
Team LI also in the mix. Should be fun.
Not even close to same level!!
Really? as who?
How did they do?
They beat the Terps (2018) 13-3 so I think that qualifies them to being " close to the same level".
The age versus grade discussion was a big topic at Kellenberg yesterday - here are a few thoughts:
1. 2018 LI club teams are basically grade based. TLI has a handful of 9th graders, but they are young ninth graders. Express apparently has a couple of ninth graders too. Whether they do or don't isn't my point - my point is that when 91/TLI/Express play, kids are basically the same age; the disputes can be measured in months and whether someone stayed back by a month or two. It's one of the best things about LI lax - it is a pretty fair playing field on the issue of age.
2. The rest of the lax world - Baltimore, Philadelphia, Boston to name three spots - is also grade based, but many of those kids go to private schools and stay back a year or start formal schooling later. Anyone who watched the 8th grade Dukes team play any of the other teams yesterday could have seen this. Apparently there are four 1998 birthdate 8th graders on that team. They were very mature and much larger than Express, 91 or Superstar - it was really obvious.
3. US Lacrosse may want age based lacrosse, but the world is going grade based. College coaches don't care how old you are - they care what grade you're in.
4. So what does it mean? Well, if you play for a LI club team, be prepared to be playing against older kids when you leave the island. The age discrepancies between the big LI clubs are way less than they are between LI clubs and those of other metropolitan areas. When LI clubs play against Dukes, Crabs and Laxachusetts they are playing against older kids, and it's only going to get worse.
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This conversation is very repetitive but always entertaining
Rules governing US Lacrosse - U-14 does not exist but often U-15B is assumed to be U-14
Age based event - grade does not matter and team is placed based on age of oldest player
Grade based event - grade does not matter team is placed based on highest grade of its players
Informal playday - coaches have evaluated each other's squads and agree that the scrimmaging is in the best interest of the participants of both teams (perhaps with knowledge of each other's irregular roster players)
In all events tournament directors have accountability to enforce rules and allowance to slightly bend them. Within reason this happens everywhere (especially Maryland - LOL) - once a tournament director decides it is okay for a given team to play in a given bracket, that team is no longer playing down regardless of what the bracket is called.
Alternatively, if a club or parent were to misrepresent the age and/or grade of their players and work outside the rules, they are creating an unsafe playing field and opening themselves up to accuastions of fraud and in the extreme reckless endangerment
It will only get worse until lacrosse goes strictly by birthdate. Then, it will get much much better. Other sports are strictly age based, and it works just fine. My son will be out of this ridiculous system by then, but it would be great to see the reaction from that crop of hold-back parents ... "it's not fair". Whaaaaaah.
Picture if "age only" restrictions materialized tomorrow, with no grandfathering. Where would the 1998 and early-1999 birthdate hold-back 2018/8th graders be able to play? They would be off any current 2018 team for sure, and the 1998s may not even qualify for a 2017 team. How would these "superstar" 8th graders fare against HS Freshmen? Against Sophomores?
Also, by the time these "standouts" are HS juniors (and playing varsity lacrosse), they would not qualify for any age based club team. There would be no home for the 19 year old junior in "youth" summer lacrosse. They would effectively be playing ball for the high school in their junior and senior years, and nowhere else. And maybe not even there -- although I don't see high schools going to strictly age based, but who knows.
Spring 2021 will be the College Junior Season for our 2018s. Age appropriate boys will be 20-21 years old at that point.
The ACC rosters will be full of 24-25 year olds. The kindergarten redshirts, 8th grade reclassifiers, post graduate prep schoolers will all be collegiate redshirters too. ACC teams will be full of these underachievers who used the physical benefits of going to school late as their sole advantage. The ACC squads (and some select others) will stink.
My boy and yours will be at a "Lower Tier" D1 school in the 3rd of his four years in college (no redshirt for us). He will work hard on the field and off as he always has and he play with fire in his belly. He will win a national championship AND earn a degree in four years AND be ready to face the real world by the time he turns 22!!!
Wow. Nostradamus has spoken.
Team LI also in the mix. Should be fun.
Not even close to same level!!
Really? as who?
How did they do?
They beat the Terps (2018) 13-3 so I think that qualifies them to being " close to the same level".
They only played one game? Is the Blue or White U14 team?
Not to make excuses for the terps poor play, but when they played Team LI, it was their fourth game of the day and tha one was on no rest. So they played, 91 at 10, dukes at 12, 365 at 2 and then team LI at 3pm
team LI didnt play any other games and all other terp games were at least games.
Nothing taken away from team LI, they are a good solid team and can compete with anyone, but dont let the 13-3 score go to your heads...
This from a "man" whining that his son is playing kids with more advanced algebra skills? I suggest that you check the contents of your own panties and stay out of our kids locker room.
Isn't Team LI an U-15 Team with ninth graders on it ?
No they are a u - 14 team. They have 3 or 4) young 9th graders that would be in 8th grade if their parents held them back like most of the other kids who are playing on the 2018 teams. The age breakdown is the same. In other words it's a fair fight!
Our team is mostly born in 2000 and we play as 2018, under your logic we should be entering them in girls 2019 tournaments because if we held him back like they do in Maryland and they didn't have testicles they would be a 2019 girls
US Lacrosse has clearly led by non-example and has not attempted to enforce their own rules and are being led around by the clubs. It is a shame considering ALL of the travel players are members of US Lacrosse but they do nothing to protect the membership. The tail is wagging the dog here. Not sure what the issue is and I have written US Lacrosse to no avail. It is simple for US Lacrosse, do not issue insurance if you do not comply..simple the end. Maybe having the headquarters in Baltimore where much of the age "discrepancies" originate is the issue...
Not to make excuses for the terps poor play, but when they played Team LI, it was their fourth game of the day and tha one was on no rest. So they played, 91 at 10, dukes at 12, 365 at 2 and then team LI at 3pm
team LI didnt play any other games and all other terp games were at least games.
Nothing taken away from team LI, they are a good solid team and can compete with anyone, but dont let the 13-3 score go to your heads...
If they have 9th graders on team, and are as competitive as you say, and it appears, they should play 2017. They shouldn't be playing 2018 teams or 8th grade brackets.
First of all they do play 2017, it depends on the tournament guidelines, if its grade based they play 2017, if its age based its 2018. Also Team LI played a game before the 2018 express game they played the 2017 express team, it was 3-2 at half and express won 8-3. No one on Team LI is letting anything go to there head, so i am not sure what that comment meant. I think a lot of teams that play in the fall are just getting used to the new players and coaches. I would not hold to much stock in these games.
If you have 8th graders on your team, who are only 8th graders because they were held back, and are competitive as you think, you should play 2017 with other kids the same age. Same old story, wah, wah, wah. Why don't you follow the lead of your team's coaches and directors. They know the make-up of the other major teams and have no problem playing against eachother.
Not to make excuses for the terps poor play, but when they played Team LI, it was their fourth game of the day and tha one was on no rest. So they played, 91 at 10, dukes at 12, 365 at 2 and then team LI at 3pm
team LI didnt play any other games and all other terp games were at least games.
Nothing taken away from team LI, they are a good solid team and can compete with anyone, but dont let the 13-3 score go to your heads...
If they have 9th graders on team, and are as competitive as you say, and it appears, they should play 2017. They shouldn't be playing 2018 teams or 8th grade brackets.
Not to make excuses for the terps poor play, but when they played Team LI, it was their fourth game of the day and tha one was on no rest. So they played, 91 at 10, dukes at 12, 365 at 2 and then team LI at 3pm
team LI didnt play any other games and all other terp games were at least games.
Nothing taken away from team LI, they are a good solid team and can compete with anyone, but dont let the 13-3 score go to your heads...
Just because you type "not to make excuses" doesn't make readers ignore the fact that you then make excuses.
All of the teams at Mitchell field on Sunday play at a very high level. Its not about winning or loosing games or championships. All of these teams are playing at a level that will attract college coaches to the sideline. That is what we are looking for isn't it ? Coaches don't care who won. They don't even keep track of scores. Just looking for athletes to fill rosters. Stop all the BS. Be proud of the fact that your kids are on one of these elite teams. Try to teach my son to fight hard and respect the game. Kids will make bonds that will last a lifetime with teammates and opponents.
All of the teams at Mitchell field on Sunday play at a very high level. Its not about winning or loosing games or championships. All of these teams are playing at a level that will attract college coaches to the sideline. That is what we are looking for isn't it ? Coaches don't care who won. They don't even keep track of scores. Just looking for athletes to fill rosters. Stop all the BS. Be proud of the fact that your kids are on one of these elite teams. Try to teach my son to fight hard and respect the game. Kids will make bonds that will last a lifetime with teammates and opponents.
VERY well put - there are some out there that get it...kudos
All of the teams at Mitchell field on Sunday play at a very high level. Its not about winning or loosing games or championships. All of these teams are playing at a level that will attract college coaches to the sideline. That is what we are looking for isn't it ? Coaches don't care who won. They don't even keep track of scores. Just looking for athletes to fill rosters. Stop all the BS. Be proud of the fact that your kids are on one of these elite teams. Try to teach my son to fight hard and respect the game. Kids will make bonds that will last a lifetime with teammates and opponents.
***** SARCASM ALERT *************
Wow - nice example, teach your kids to fight, very nice, and if your from Baltimore you probably held them back so they could fight kids a year younger.... actual - great post
If Team long island has young 9th grade kids why are they playing in 7-8 grade bracket for mustang showcase?
If Team long island has young 9th grade kids why are they playing in 7-8 grade bracket for mustang showcase?
Exactly. They have four teams at this age group. At least the A team should move up and play with JV. Doesn't make sense.
Where did you find the schedule ? I didn't think it was out yet. Couldn't find it on line.
If Team long island has young 9th grade kids why are they playing in 7-8 grade bracket for mustang showcase?
Exactly. They have four teams at this age group. At least the A team should move up and play with JV. Doesn't make sense.
The A Team is playing JV. The others don't have ninth graders. Why is there so much concern over playing kids the same age as your son. If your coach or directors thought it was unfair they would say something. The funny thing is that TLI plays to the oldest/highest grade kid anyway! THEY DON"T CHEAT! The controversy has been that they have not been able to play their SAME age kids in grade level tournaments. The other AA 2018 teams would want to play them.
What does it mean to be in 9th grade? If you are a young 9th grader who turns 14 in November, you could have been placed in 8th grade, and the other way around. It is about age not grade, if all the players on the field are the same age what difference does the grade make except when they graduate. There are kids on 2018 teams that are older then kids on 2017 teams.
What does it mean to be in 9th grade? If you are a young 9th grader who turns 14 in November, you could have been placed in 8th grade, and the other way around. It is about age not grade, if all the players on the field are the same age what difference does the grade make except when they graduate. There are kids on 2018 teams that are older then kids on 2017 teams.
It matters because those are the rules we chose to play by on LI. This is a 7/8 tournament. Not a u14 (which is not real age group) The line has to be drawn somewhere. They certainly could have stayed back but they didn't. If they are true A team with some 9th graders they should at least be in JV B division. Not playing with 7th graders! Them when a 2018 team plays U15 this summer out of state, they will be at slight disadvantage but playing where they belong. Not customizing the rules that work best for them.
If Team long island has young 9th grade kids why are they playing in 7-8 grade bracket for mustang showcase?
Exactly. They have four teams at this age group. At least the A team should move up and play with JV. Doesn't make sense.
91 has the team numbers posted on their website last night but not the schedule yet. I'm guessing it was sent around by them to create this uproar.
Don't worry, there is no "ship" this week , it's a fall recruiting tournament, you should be looking to play the best competition.
If Team long island has young 9th grade kids why are they playing in 7-8 grade bracket for mustang showcase?
Exactly. They have four teams at this age group. At least the A team should move up and play with JV. Doesn't make sense.
The A Team is playing JV. The others don't have ninth graders. Why is there so much concern over playing kids the same age as your son. If your coach or directors thought it was unfair they would say something. The funny thing is that TLI plays to the oldest/highest grade kid anyway! THEY DON"T CHEAT! The controversy has been that they have not been able to play their SAME age kids in grade level tournaments. The other AA 2018 teams would want to play them.
I have to agree with the Team LI folks here. I'm a big advocate of aged based play. Seems to me, Team LI has taken a leadership position on this issue. Quite frankly, I think all LI teams should follow their lead. Also, it is no secret that the other top A teams out there have kids that would, by age qualify to be in 9th grade. That's just a fact. So before you start casting dispersions on Team LI, check all the birthdates of the kids on your own team. I think you'd be shocked. Please don't come back on here and say any different. Everyone knows who the older kids are and the PAL rosters from a few years ago don't lie. I'm also not talking about kids who missed the cut off by a month or two, who would qualify under US lax rules. If anyone wants to focus on age, there are plenty of teams from MD and PA where kids are 1 to 2 years older. Focus on them.
What does it mean to be in 9th grade? If you are a young 9th grader who turns 14 in November, you could have been placed in 8th grade, and the other way around. It is about age not grade, if all the players on the field are the same age what difference does the grade make except when they graduate. There are kids on 2018 teams that are older then kids on 2017 teams.
It matters because those are the rules we chose to play by on LI. This is a 7/8 tournament. Not a u14 (which is not real age group) The line has to be drawn somewhere. They certainly could have stayed back but they didn't. If they are true A team with some 9th graders they should at least be in JV B division. Not playing with 7th graders! Them when a 2018 team plays U15 this summer out of state, they will be at slight disadvantage but playing where they belong. Not customizing the rules that work best for them.
They ARE in the JV ! Check your information before you start crying! don't worry your son won't have to play those big bad 9th graders that are probably younger than him!
Think your confused. The U-14 White team is playing in the JV bracket. Always play up to the grade of oldest player if not higher. Not sure what your problem is with this team.
If Team long island has young 9th grade kids why are they playing in 7-8 grade bracket for mustang showcase?
Exactly. They have four teams at this age group. At least the A team should move up and play with JV. Doesn't make sense.
Hey Einstein! The 4th team in the age group is the U-13 (mostly 7th grade group)!!! U-14 White (The A team) is playing JV.
What does it mean to be in 9th grade? If you are a young 9th grader who turns 14 in November, you could have been placed in 8th grade, and the other way around. It is about age not grade, if all the players on the field are the same age what difference does the grade make except when they graduate. There are kids on 2018 teams that are older then kids on 2017 teams.
It matters because those are the rules we chose to play by on LI. This is a 7/8 tournament. Not a u14 (which is not real age group) The line has to be drawn somewhere. They certainly could have stayed back but they didn't. If they are true A team with some 9th graders they should at least be in JV B division. Not playing with 7th graders! Them when a 2018 team plays U15 this summer out of state, they will be at slight disadvantage but playing where they belong. Not customizing the rules that work best for them.
BTW who is we? I never saw a ballot sheet! As far as I know the only governing body is US lacrosse, an they want U base teams! So if a tournament director wants to "customize the rules", its his tournament! He has every right to, As long as the kids safety isn't compromise and the teams are placed in the appropriate (competition level). Then common sense should take precedence!
Wow what an uproar, and it sounds like based on in correct information....why so concerned about this 1 team?
I haven't seen the schedule but have been told the U14 team would be entered into the JV bracket, if they are not, I would guess it would be the tournaments decision but based on the previous post, it sounds they are in the JV bracket.
Just to end all the complaining, I know this has been mentioned a number of times, but the team has always played by the tournament rules, last year the entered the following tournaments:
Big Time Shootout - 2017
NXT Cup - 2017
Yale - U13
Hershey - U13
Stonybrook - 2017
So the next time you guys want to complain about this team again, please come back and read this thread again. Hopefully it will clarify how the team plays age and grade appropriate.
Wow what an uproar, and it sounds like based on in correct information....why so concerned about this 1 team?
I haven't seen the schedule but have been told the U14 team would be entered into the JV bracket, if they are not, I would guess it would be the tournaments decision but based on the previous post, it sounds they are in the JV bracket.
Just to end all the complaining, I know this has been mentioned a number of times, but the team has always played by the tournament rules, last year the entered the following tournaments:
Big Time Shootout - 2017
NXT Cup - 2017
Yale - U13
Hershey - U13
Stonybrook - 2017
So the next time you guys want to complain about this team again, please come back and read this thread again. Hopefully it will clarify how the team plays age and grade appropriate.
BTW...They did get their butts kicked against the 2017 Terps...
and...
stupid means stupid
cry baby means cry baby
Held back means Held back
Please read the previous post! They have NEVER played in a 2018 division! Why are you so focused on this one teams schedule????
If Team long island has young 9th grade kids why are they playing in 7-8 grade bracket for mustang showcase?
Exactly. They have four teams at this age group. At least the A team should move up and play with JV. Doesn't make sense.
The A Team is playing JV. The others don't have ninth graders. Why is there so much concern over playing kids the same age as your son. If your coach or directors thought it was unfair they would say something. The funny thing is that TLI plays to the oldest/highest grade kid anyway! THEY DON"T CHEAT! The controversy has been that they have not been able to play their SAME age kids in grade level tournaments. The other AA 2018 teams would want to play them.
I have to agree with the Team LI folks here. I'm a big advocate of aged based play. Seems to me, Team LI has taken a leadership position on this issue. Quite frankly, I think all LI teams should follow their lead. Also, it is no secret that the other top A teams out there have kids that would, by age qualify to be in 9th grade. That's just a fact. So before you start casting dispersions on Team LI, check all the birthdates of the kids on your own team. I think you'd be shocked. Please don't come back on here and say any different. Everyone knows who the older kids are and the PAL rosters from a few years ago don't lie. I'm also not talking about kids who missed the cut off by a month or two, who would qualify under US lax rules. If anyone wants to focus on age, there are plenty of teams from MD and PA where kids are 1 to 2 years older. Focus on them.
Some of the boys from my town that appear on the fl$ 2018 roster are well known in the athletic community here as hold-backs, with 1999 birthdays well within the 9th grade/2017 age range. It isn't just the MD and CO and CA and New England teams that do this ... they just do more of it than the Long Island clubs, by stacking their teams with hold-backs.
Hold-backs will eventually become the norm on Long Island select teams, unless an age-based requirement is imposed soon. No way the LI "lax daddies" will let LI lacrosse erode to the point where their boys can't compete in the summer against the MD and NE teams. 91 and Express will start taking more hold-backs, and probably actively recruit them (if they are not already).
This is inevitable, absent a sweeping rule change. Once you open the door for this kind of behavior, it becomes a "race to the bottom". And the bottom is closer than you think.
Wow what an uproar, and it sounds like based on in correct information....why so concerned about this 1 team?
I haven't seen the schedule but have been told the U14 team would be entered into the JV bracket, if they are not, I would guess it would be the tournaments decision but based on the previous post, it sounds they are in the JV bracket.
Just to end all the complaining, I know this has been mentioned a number of times, but the team has always played by the tournament rules, last year the entered the following tournaments:
Big Time Shootout - 2017
NXT Cup - 2017
Yale - U13
Hershey - U13
Stonybrook - 2017
So the next time you guys want to complain about this team again, please come back and read this thread again. Hopefully it will clarify how the team plays age and grade appropriate.
BTW...They did get their butts kicked against the 2017 Terps...
ha ha - you are a clown- do you feel better posting that... game was 3-2 TLI up at half...first game in Fall - how did your team do playing down? win all your fall games? awesome - so proud
What does it mean to be in 9th grade? If you are a young 9th grader who turns 14 in November, you could have been placed in 8th grade, and the other way around. It is about age not grade, if all the players on the field are the same age what difference does the grade make except when they graduate. There are kids on 2018 teams that are older then kids on 2017 teams.
It matters because those are the rules we chose to play by on LI. This is a 7/8 tournament. Not a u14 (which is not real age group) The line has to be drawn somewhere. They certainly could have stayed back but they didn't. If they are true A team with some 9th graders they should at least be in JV B division. Not playing with 7th graders! Them when a 2018 team plays U15 this summer out of state, they will be at slight disadvantage but playing where they belong. Not customizing the rules that work best for them.
BTW who is we? I never saw a ballot sheet! As far as I know the only governing body is US lacrosse, an they want U base teams! So if a tournament director wants to "customize the rules", its his tournament! He has every right to, As long as the kids safety isn't compromise and the teams are placed in the appropriate (competition level). Then common sense should take precedence!
Well said! It would be best if everyone went to the U format. Would certainly level the playing field and stop all this non sense.
Or better yet follow youth hockey and go by birth year. It would end all the redshirt nonsense that goes on. Then I guess everyone would procreate so January and February would be busy months in the maternity ward.
COLLEGES RECRUIT BY HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION YEAR - this whole age based vs. grade based argument is meaningless, it is all about daddy chest pumping and wins and loses,I have had two sons go through the recruiting process and I have never had a coach ask about his summer teams won - loss record or his age -
Colleges want to know three things
1) gpa
2) SAT Scores
3) Schedule of camps and tournaments he will be at
Petro really does not care about the terps / TLI game in November and the ages of the kids that played
US Lacrosse has clearly led by non-example and has not attempted to enforce their own rules and are being led around by the clubs. It is a shame considering ALL of the travel players are members of US Lacrosse but they do nothing to protect the membership. The tail is wagging the dog here. Not sure what the issue is and I have written US Lacrosse to no avail. It is simple for US Lacrosse, do not issue insurance if you do not comply..simple the end. Maybe having the headquarters in Baltimore where much of the age "discrepancies" originate is the issue...
Yup. Add that USLacrosse HQ is steps from Homewood field--JHU one of earliest recruiters.
Or better yet follow youth hockey and go by birth year. It would end all the redshirt nonsense that goes on. Then I guess everyone would procreate so January and February would be busy months in the maternity ward.
Folks - you need to get past the age based stuff. As soon as your kid hits recruiting age the coaches don't care if the player is old or young for the particular recruiting class. Yes, in youth it matters for safety reasons. Yes, it's fun to win youth championships. No, it doesn't matter what their win/loss or championship total is once they get on the recruiting circuit. Been there, done that with 2 sons and not once did their college coach every ask about a youth or middle school tournament or their HS summer team record for that matter. Play hard but quit complaining about ages. If you're a 2018 you will be with the big HS boys soon enough.
Petro really does not care about the terps / TLI game in November and the ages of the kids that played
Yeah, but if he or any other coaches were watching, they were there to watch 2018s play so any 2017s parents paying a club to have their son in that game was throwing money away faster than everyone else (BTW everyone else was throwing their money away too)
Wow what an uproar, and it sounds like based on in correct information....why so concerned about this 1 team?
I haven't seen the schedule but have been told the U14 team would be entered into the JV bracket, if they are not, I would guess it would be the tournaments decision but based on the previous post, it sounds they are in the JV bracket.
Just to end all the complaining, I know this has been mentioned a number of times, but the team has always played by the tournament rules, last year the entered the following tournaments:
Big Time Shootout - 2017
NXT Cup - 2017
Yale - U13
Hershey - U13
Stonybrook - 2017
So the next time you guys want to complain about this team again, please come back and read this thread again. Hopefully it will clarify how the team plays age and grade appropriate.
2017 teams were NOT eligible to play in a U13 Bracket. What is the determining factor is the DOB of the OLDEST player on the team.
Everytime a team is registered (and I register 20 teams to 5 tournaments each annually) I have to take that into consideration.
IF you are playing "up" at a 2017 level and U13 is where your OLDEST player places you, then you are in the right place.
Wow what an uproar, and it sounds like based on in correct information....why so concerned about this 1 team?
I haven't seen the schedule but have been told the U14 team would be entered into the JV bracket, if they are not, I would guess it would be the tournaments decision but based on the previous post, it sounds they are in the JV bracket.
Just to end all the complaining, I know this has been mentioned a number of times, but the team has always played by the tournament rules, last year the entered the following tournaments:
Big Time Shootout - 2017
NXT Cup - 2017
Yale - U13
Hershey - U13
Stonybrook - 2017
So the next time you guys want to complain about this team again, please come back and read this thread again. Hopefully it will clarify how the team plays age and grade appropriate.
2017 teams were NOT eligible to play in a U13 Bracket. What is the determining factor is the DOB of the OLDEST player on the team.
Everytime a team is registered (and I register 20 teams to 5 tournaments each annually) I have to take that into consideration.
IF you are playing "up" at a 2017 level and U13 is where your OLDEST player places you, then you are in the right place.
Honestly are u that stupid? There are 2017's who are born after sept 1 1999 that were eligible for U-13 last year. They played in the 2017 bracket for every other tournament. Since 80 percent of the team were 2018's, those kids are playing up in those tournaments. Why is that so hard to understand. Unreal!!!!
There are 2017's who are born after sept 1 1999 that were eligible for U-13 last year. They played in the 2017 bracket for every other tournament. Since 80 percent of the team were 2018's, those kids are playing up in those tournaments. Why is that so hard to understand. Unreal!!!!
One of the elements in your post that makes it tough to understand is talking about what happened LAST YEAR with U-age brackets. Below, you will find the current age group tables for the Classes of 2017 and 2018.
Despite the confusion, you are actually correct in the first half of your statement - the Class of 2017 students that were born AFTER September 1st, 1999 who are currently U/14 were U/13 eligible last season.
The incorrect part is saying that the older Class of 2018 students were playing up last year in U/13 - in fact, they were on the right age group.
12/01/98 - 08/31/99 ... Class of 2017 ... 9th Grade .... U/15
09/01/99 - 11/30/99 ... Class of 2017 ... 9th Grade .... U/14
12/01/99 - 08/31/00 ... Class of 2018 ... 8th Grade .... U/14
09/01/00 - 11/30/00 ... Class of 2018 ... 8th Grade .... U/13
There are 2017's who are born after sept 1 1999 that were eligible for U-13 last year. They played in the 2017 bracket for every other tournament. Since 80 percent of the team were 2018's, those kids are playing up in those tournaments. Why is that so hard to understand. Unreal!!!!
One of the elements in your post that makes it tough to understand is talking about what happened LAST YEAR with U-age brackets. Below, you will find the current age group tables for the Classes of 2017 and 2018.
Despite the confusion, you are actually correct in the first half of your statement - the Class of 2017 students that were born AFTER September 1st, 1999 who are currently U/14 were U/13 eligible last season.
The incorrect part is saying that the older Class of 2018 students were playing up last year in U/13 - in fact, they were on the right age group.
12/01/98 - 08/31/99 ... Class of 2017 ... 9th Grade .... U/15
09/01/99 - 11/30/99 ... Class of 2017 ... 9th Grade .... U/14
12/01/99 - 08/31/00 ... Class of 2018 ... 8th Grade .... U/14
09/01/00 - 11/30/00 ... Class of 2018 ... 8th Grade .... U/13
OMG are u serious? 2018 kids who are playing in a 2017 bracket are playing up! Why is that hard to understand. When they played U 13 they were NOT playing their up! This is painful!!!!!
There are 2017's who are born after sept 1 1999 that were eligible for U-13 last year. They played in the 2017 bracket for every other tournament. Since 80 percent of the team were 2018's, those kids are playing up in those tournaments. Why is that so hard to understand. Unreal!!!!
One of the elements in your post that makes it tough to understand is talking about what happened LAST YEAR with U-age brackets. Below, you will find the current age group tables for the Classes of 2017 and 2018.
Despite the confusion, you are actually correct in the first half of your statement - the Class of 2017 students that were born AFTER September 1st, 1999 who are currently U/14 were U/13 eligible last season.
The incorrect part is saying that the older Class of 2018 students were playing up last year in U/13 - in fact, they were on the right age group.
12/01/98 - 08/31/99 ... Class of 2017 ... 9th Grade .... U/15
09/01/99 - 11/30/99 ... Class of 2017 ... 9th Grade .... U/14
12/01/99 - 08/31/00 ... Class of 2018 ... 8th Grade .... U/14
09/01/00 - 11/30/00 ... Class of 2018 ... 8th Grade .... U/13
OMG are u serious? 2018 kids who are playing in a 2017 bracket are playing up! Why is that hard to understand. When they played U 13 they were NOT playing their up! This is painful!!!!!
Hang on there, Sport. BOTC certainly would not want to risk your Nobel Prize with this discussion.
If a team is composed of both 2017 and 2018 players and they are playing in a 2017 bracket, the team is NOT playing up although some of the players on the team are playing up.
Obviously, a pure 2018 team playing in a 2017 bracket is playing up as a team. The original post asserted that 80% of the team was the Class of 2018. Big difference - the team is NOT a 2018 if 80% of the players are 2018 unless all of the other players are 2019 and younger.
Going back to your original post, you mixed in discussion about U-age groups which we were politely trying to explain.
Well played, CS. Is it true that LI's biggest clubs, Team 91 and Express stand up 4 or 5 teams by grad year?
Well played, CS. Is it true that LI's biggest clubs, Team 91 and Express stand up 4 or 5 teams by grad year?
Generally, even the largest Long Island boys clubs will take only three teams per age group.
my high school team regularly brings up 8th and 9th grade boys to play JV and varsity and nobody ever says the team is "playing up" time for everybody to start thinking the same way, if the team is 90% 2018 and 10% 2017 then the team is NOT playing up in a 2017 tournament -
Well played, CS. Is it true that LI's biggest clubs, Team 91 and Express stand up 4 or 5 teams by grad year?
Generally, even the largest Long Island boys clubs will take only three teams per age group.
Except for team LI that usually has 4 and currently 91 has 4 at many of the younger ages 2018 and down.
Great game yesterday between 91 and Team LI. Let's leave it at that and keep all the BS out of it.
How about we try something different today and talk about the positives. Two great teams playing a great game regardless of the final score.
Hopefully in the spring can arrange small invites like the Express did last weekend, have all these great team from LI play each other and even a couple from out of state.
91 Parent
Great game yesterday between 91 and Team LI. Let's leave it at that and keep all the BS out of it.
How about we try something different today and talk about the positives. Two great teams playing a great game regardless of the final score.
Hopefully in the spring can arrange small invites like the Express did last weekend, have all these great team from LI play each other and even a couple from out of state.
91 Parent
Was that the Team Long Island team that played Terps last week?
You are absolutely right, great game of lacrosse. A team gets more out of a close game then a blow out. They should play each other more then once a year. It was a pleasure to watch.
TLI parent
TLI goalie played awesome...had a lot of great saves...great addition to TLI..
I think he came from team 91
I think he came from team 91
He did play for team 91 on their A team last summer and was actually put on 91's C team which is the white team this year after tryouts this year. I wasnt at the game but hope he played really well. Great kid deserved better from 91. TLI has added a great goalie.
I think he came from team 91
He did play for team 91 on their A team last summer and was actually put on 91's C team which is the white team this year after tryouts this year. I wasnt at the game but hope he played really well. Great kid deserved better from 91. TLI has added a great goalie.
It was Typical 91 politics. Irony is that Extreme took the TLI goalie.
I think he came from team 91
He did play for team 91 on their A team last summer and was actually put on 91's C team which is the white team this year after tryouts this year. I wasnt at the game but hope he played really well. Great kid deserved better from 91. TLI has added a great goalie.
It was Typical 91 politics. Irony is that Extreme took the TLI goalie.
Team LI is better this year with their new goalie.
Please stop all of this - it is not worthy of the great game played. This degrades the entire experience. Both teams - ALL PLAYERS - played their collective hearts out -
it was really nice to see the boys play a great competitive game. It was even nicer to see that off the field they are all friends. the rivalry between these teams and many others are caused by the parents, not the kids. its time to move on and keep it positive for our sons and let them enjoy playing lacrosse. BTW, the TLI goalie played amazing!!
Please stop all of this - it is not worthy of the great game played. This degrades the entire experience. Both teams - ALL PLAYERS - played their collective hearts out -
Also, both goalies are great kid's, best of luck to them.
Please stop all of this - it is not worthy of the great game played. This degrades the entire experience. Both teams - ALL PLAYERS - played their collective hearts out -
Also, both goalies are great kid's, best of luck to them.
It just sheds a light on all the BS in team selection. That the goalie from team Long Island was put on 91 C teamm white after this years tryout was a joke. Come on, from the A team to the C team. Those who saw him play on Saturday know he's not a C team goalie. His play speaks for itself. He deserved better from 91. It just pays to know people. No one is knocking the kids just pointing out how good a player is screwed because of politics. Hey lets see if he gets the phone call from SL to come back after how well he played yesterday.
Please stop all of this - it is not worthy of the great game played. This degrades the entire experience. Both teams - ALL PLAYERS - played their collective hearts out -
Also, both goalies are great kid's, best of luck to them.
It just sheds a light on all the BS in team selection. That the goalie from team Long Island was put on 91 C teamm white after this years tryout was a joke. Come on, from the A team to the C team. Those who saw him play on Saturday know he's not a C team goalie. His play speaks for itself. He deserved better from 91. It just pays to know people. No one is knocking the kids just pointing out how good a player is screwed because of politics. Hey lets see if he gets the phone call from SL to come back after how well he played yesterday.
please stop the implications and tell us what you trying to say, if you say it pays to know someone, well why didn't they know him if he played for them last year? did they forget him? and when you say politics are you saying that not only is the new goalie politically connected but so are the two goalies that made the "b" team ahead of this boy? was it a parent cut? what were the politics? if our gonna bring the heat, bring it
The family of said goalie is much happier, a better fit for him and his family, no hard feelings. How lucky we all are to have these " problems" It is a privilege
to watch our sons play such a great game and have friendly competition. These boys are all amazing.
money can't buy talent or what comes from hard work
Please stop all of this - it is not worthy of the great game played. This degrades the entire experience. Both teams - ALL PLAYERS - played their collective hearts out -
Also, both goalies are great kid's, best of luck to them.
It just sheds a light on all the BS in team selection. That the goalie from team Long Island was put on 91 C teamm white after this years tryout was a joke. Come on, from the A team to the C team. Those who saw him play on Saturday know he's not a C team goalie. His play speaks for itself. He deserved better from 91. It just pays to know people. No one is knocking the kids just pointing out how good a player is screwed because of politics. Hey lets see if he gets the phone call from SL to come back after how well he played yesterday.
please stop the implications and tell us what you trying to say, if you say it pays to know someone, well why didn't they know him if he played for them last year? did they forget him? and when you say politics are you saying that not only is the new goalie politically connected but so are the two goalies that made the "b" team ahead of this boy? was it a parent cut? what were the politics? if our gonna bring the heat, bring it
91 is about who you know or who your friends with or who's lawn you mow or what helmets you buy for the team. Teams were chosen before tryouts. Plain and simple. Come on you know the truth. It was basically decided before tryouts who were moving up from the B team and recruited from other teams to play on Extreme. Some are OK with their kid riding the pine. They just want to say they are on Extreme. Your kid will get better that way. This goalie is one example of the BS. That shows it so no need to bring it. Politics or friends or whatever. I just say it like I see it. Very happy for the goalie who is now on team long island. Great kid great family.
Please stop all of this - it is not worthy of the great game played. This degrades the entire experience. Both teams - ALL PLAYERS - played their collective hearts out -
Also, both goalies are great kid's, best of luck to them.
Excellent - we're back to making fun of dads' businesses and helping with helmets to express our hatred of 91. Here is some light to shed on 91 Xtreme player selections - they played nine games this Fall and won all nine, beating Dukes, Express and TLI along with six others. They don't duck anyone and it is a great group of boys who play hard and as a team. The boys you are criticizing as political picks each contributed in meaningful ways in games this Fall. Hate the coaches and directors all you want, but it's hard to criticize the team they put on the field this Fall - Xtreme beat everyone.
It just sheds a light on all the BS in team selection. That the goalie from team Long Island was put on 91 C teamm white after this years tryout was a joke. Come on, from the A team to the C team. Those who saw him play on Saturday know he's not a C team goalie. His play speaks for itself. He deserved better from 91. It just pays to know people. No one is knocking the kids just pointing out how good a player is screwed because of politics. Hey lets see if he gets the phone call from SL to come back after how well he played yesterday.
please stop the implications and tell us what you trying to say, if you say it pays to know someone, well why didn't they know him if he played for them last year? did they forget him? and when you say politics are you saying that not only is the new goalie politically connected but so are the two goalies that made the "b" team ahead of this boy? was it a parent cut? what were the politics? if our gonna bring the heat, bring it
91 is about who you know or who your friends with or who's lawn you mow or what helmets you buy for the team. Teams were chosen before tryouts. Plain and simple. Come on you know the truth. It was basically decided before tryouts who were moving up from the B team and recruited from other teams to play on Extreme. Some are OK with their kid riding the pine. They just want to say they are on Extreme. Your kid will get better that way. This goalie is one example of the BS. That shows it so no need to bring it. Politics or friends or whatever. I just say it like I see it. Very happy for the goalie who is now on team long island. Great kid great family.
Please stop all of this - it is not worthy of the great game played. This degrades the entire experience. Both teams - ALL PLAYERS - played their collective hearts out -
Also, both goalies are great kid's, best of luck to them.
Excellent - we're back to making fun of dads' businesses and helmet design to express our hatred of 91. Here is another way to look at 91 Xtreme player selections - Xtreme played nine games this Fall and won them all, beating Dukes, Express, Team Long Island and six others. They didn't duck anyone. They are a great group of kids who play hard and as a team. The boys you are criticizing as political picks each contributed in meaningful ways in games this Fall. Hate the coaches and directors all you want, but it's wrong to criticize the boys selected and the team the coaches put on the field this Fall - Xtreme beat everyone.
It just sheds a light on all the BS in team selection. That the goalie from team Long Island was put on 91 C teamm white after this years tryout was a joke. Come on, from the A team to the C team. Those who saw him play on Saturday know he's not a C team goalie. His play speaks for itself. He deserved better from 91. It just pays to know people. No one is knocking the kids just pointing out how good a player is screwed because of politics. Hey lets see if he gets the phone call from SL to come back after how well he played yesterday.
please stop the implications and tell us what you trying to say, if you say it pays to know someone, well why didn't they know him if he played for them last year? did they forget him? and when you say politics are you saying that not only is the new goalie politically connected but so are the two goalies that made the "b" team ahead of this boy? was it a parent cut? what were the politics? if our gonna bring the heat, bring it
91 is about who you know or who your friends with or who's lawn you mow or what helmets you buy for the team. Teams were chosen before tryouts. Plain and simple. Come on you know the truth. It was basically decided before tryouts who were moving up from the B team and recruited from other teams to play on Extreme. Some are OK with their kid riding the pine. They just want to say they are on Extreme. Your kid will get better that way. This goalie is one example of the BS. That shows it so no need to bring it. Politics or friends or whatever. I just say it like I see it. Very happy for the goalie who is now on team long island. Great kid great family.
Excellent - we're back to making fun of dads' businesses and helmet design to express our hatred of 91. Here is another way to look at 91 player selections - Xtreme played 9 games this Fall and won them all, beating Dukes, Express, Team Long Island, and 6 others. They didn't duck anyone. They are a great group of kids who play hard and as a team. The boys you are criticizing as political picks each contributed in meaningful ways in games this Fall. Hate the coaches and the directors all you want, but it's wrong to criticize the boys and the team the coaches put on the field this Fall - Xtreme beat everyone.
Excellent - we're back to making fun of dads' businesses and helmet design to express our hatred of 91. Here is another way to look at 91 player selections - Xtreme played 9 games this Fall and won them all, beating Dukes, Express, Team Long Island, and 6 others. They didn't duck anyone. They are a great group of kids who play hard and as a team. The boys you are criticizing as political picks each contributed in meaningful ways in games this Fall. Hate the coaches and the directors all you want, but it's wrong to criticize the boys and the team the coaches put on the field this Fall - Xtreme beat everyone.
Ok no one is making fun of anyones way of life just what people are doing to make teams. Teams were pre determined. Players who were on other teams last year were invited to the private tryouts that were held for returning players. Told they basically had a spot before tryouts. Certain favors are done for those who are in good favor or standing with certain directors. Those who know and are on the team know this. No one I mean no one is saying that the primary players are not some of the best out there, its just that there are secondary players that are not. Favors were done to get on the team. Families of 91 Extreme know that certain players get the majority of playing time. In majority I mean like 90%. Players are of age to see that better players were over looked its a shame. The Team Long Island goalie was just that type of example.
Excellent - we're back to making fun of dads' businesses and helmet design to express our hatred of 91. Here is another way to look at 91 player selections - Xtreme played 9 games this Fall and won them all, beating Dukes, Express, Team Long Island, and 6 others. They didn't duck anyone. They are a great group of kids who play hard and as a team. The boys you are criticizing as political picks each contributed in meaningful ways in games this Fall. Hate the coaches and the directors all you want, but it's wrong to criticize the boys and the team the coaches put on the field this Fall - Xtreme beat everyone.
Ok no one is making fun of anyones way of life just what people are doing to make teams. Teams were pre determined. Players who were on other teams last year were invited to the private tryouts that were held for returning players. Told they basically had a spot before tryouts. Certain favors are done for those who are in good favor or standing with certain directors. Those who know and are on the team know this. No one I mean no one is saying that the primary players are not some of the best out there, its just that there are secondary players that are not. Favors were done to get on the team. Families of 91 Extreme know that certain players get the majority of playing time. In majority I mean like 90%. Players are of age to see that better players were over looked its a shame. The Team Long Island goalie was just that type of example.
what you are describing is pretty much every team and every organization in every grade and in every sport - not saying it is wrong or right it just is what it is, sometimes it is about daddy buying helmets or has field permits other times it is friendships with coaches and on the negative side sometimes it is a parent cut - all of this is not fair to the kids but it is the real world and it happens in baseball, soccer,volley ball it doesn't matter all you can do is hope that your kid gets a fair shake and then it is a life lesson. we are just lucky to have so many options on LI if we don't like were we are playing.
My son played for 91 extreme got cut and it was the best thing that could have happen to him. He is 100% happier. And yes politics were involved.
So what does a parent have to do not to get cut? Happy thanksgiving everyone and may we all strive to not get cut from our son's travel team! Hilarious!
So what does a parent have to do not to get cut? Happy thanksgiving everyone and may we all strive to not get cut from our son's travel team! Hilarious!
If you have to ask ...........
So what does a parent have to do not to get cut? Happy thanksgiving everyone and may we all strive to not get cut from our son's travel team! Hilarious!
Or what does a parent have to do to get their son on the team.
So what does a parent have to do not to get cut? Happy thanksgiving everyone and may we all strive to not get cut from our son's travel team! Hilarious!
Or what does a parent have to do to get their son on the team.
parent cuts are very simple, if your kid is a top player and you pay your bills you can be the biggest jack [lacrosse] you want. if your kid is middle of the pack and cutting him will not hurt the team then have a couple of cocktails in the hotel bar and tell the coaches wife what you really think of him. Scream at you kid the entire game telling him to do stuff that the coach does not want him to do. Call the director and complain about the coach, go to tryouts and tell everybody you were told your son already made the team and you are trying to decide if you want to play on that team.
So what does a parent have to do not to get cut? Happy thanksgiving everyone and may we all strive to not get cut from our son's travel team! Hilarious!
Or what does a parent have to do to get their son on the team.
parent cuts are very simple, if your kid is a top player and you pay your bills you can be the biggest jack [lacrosse] you want. if your kid is middle of the pack and cutting him will not hurt the team then have a couple of cocktails in the hotel bar and tell the coaches wife what you really think of him. Scream at you kid the entire game telling him to do stuff that the coach does not want him to do. Call the director and complain about the coach, go to tryouts and tell everybody you were told your son already made the team and you are trying to decide if you want to play on that team.
WOW. Why would anyone want to play on that team? Sounds awful. Folks, in the years ahead you don't have to be on Extreme to get recruited to a top college. So many other options and avenues to get exposure. Quite frankly, if your son is not a starter on that team it will be very difficult to shine for the coaches in the future.... Great team, crazy scene. Good luck.
Their are parent cuts on all teams. Not just this one. A club would rather lose one player than deal with problematic parents.
It happens all the time. Unfortunate for the kids. It's the players that jump from team to team year after year.
I've seen it a few times on my son's teams. Funny thing is the offending parents never seem to get it.
Their are parent cuts on all teams. Not just this one. A club would rather lose one player than deal with problematic parents.
It happens all the time. Unfortunate for the kids. It's the players that jump from team to team year after year.
Their are parent cuts on all teams. Not just this one. A club would rather lose one player than deal with problematic parents.
It happens all the time. Unfortunate for the kids. It's the players that jump from team to team year after year.
the original post was about parent cuts in general and not specifically about extreme, I have no knowledge of anything to do with extreme or parents but I have seen parents get cut from teams - anybody that has been involved in selecting a team can tell you that
I think we are losing the point. This is about the politics and how it effects the kids. Choices are made even before tryouts who will be on teams. When players dont show up to tryouts for whatever reason but they are still put on teams. Hey its a great way to teach your kid set them up for failure. It was said it all depends on tryouts. Well if a kids doesnt come and is still put on a team. What do you call that. Then another player is on A but someone else is really good friends with the director so his kid gets the kids spot.
I think we are losing the point. This is about the politics and how it effects the kids. Choices are made even before tryouts who will be on teams. When players dont show up to tryouts for whatever reason but they are still put on teams. Hey its a great way to teach your kid set them up for failure. It was said it all depends on tryouts. Well if a kids doesnt come and is still put on a team. What do you call that. Then another player is on A but someone else is really good friends with the director so his kid gets the kids spot.
It appears that teams get older, try outs are really for a kid trying to break on to the scene of a certain team or organization. If coaches know kids on the their team, or kids in their organization and have watched them play throughout the season, a try out is really just a formality. Sure, every now and then there are some upsets and surprises, but for the most part, if an coaches or organization are happy with their kids, someone has to really wow them to knock an existing player out of a spot. Kids get sick, are hurt and organizations will be flexible if they know their players. If the kid makes a coveted team from another organization, and did not show for try outs, you can bet, the coach had a private try out or watched him/her over the last season and liked what they saw. in some ways- this is better than a 2 day try out, but not always fair. This happens in all select sports.
Excellent - we're back to making fun of dads' businesses and helmet design to express our hatred of 91. Here is another way to look at 91 player selections - Xtreme played 9 games this Fall and won them all, beating Dukes, Express, Team Long Island, and 6 others. They didn't duck anyone. They are a great group of kids who play hard and as a team. The boys you are criticizing as political picks each contributed in meaningful ways in games this Fall. Hate the coaches and the directors all you want, but it's wrong to criticize the boys and the team the coaches put on the field this Fall - Xtreme beat everyone.
Ok no one is making fun of anyones way of life just what people are doing to make teams. Teams were pre determined. Players who were on other teams last year were invited to the private tryouts that were held for returning players. Told they basically had a spot before tryouts. Certain favors are done for those who are in good favor or standing with certain directors. Those who know and are on the team know this. No one I mean no one is saying that the primary players are not some of the best out there, its just that there are secondary players that are not. Favors were done to get on the team. Families of 91 Extreme know that certain players get the majority of playing time. In majority I mean like 90%. Players are of age to see that better players were over looked its a shame. The Team Long Island goalie was just that type of example.
Where are the comebacks! Ohh guess its true.
Oh boy, read the above if your looking for 'comebacks'. If you are looking for a non-political environment for your son to play a sport, as succinctly put above in someone's above 'comeback', you won't find one in any sport, including lacrosse. Try outs aren't blind, the best kids are tied up in advance by every team, the weakest kids based on the previous year's game play are playing for their spot in the try outs. The kids who don't make it often have parents who blame it on politics. Whether you like it or not, Xtreme has taken players from Express and TLI over the years, and no one from Xtreme has voluntarily left to go to those organizations. Xtreme also beat those two teams (and everyone else) this Fall with their current roster. Call it political, but the results on the field are undeniable.
Oh boy, read the above if your looking for 'comebacks'. If you are looking for a non-political environment for your son to play a sport, as succinctly put above in someone's above 'comeback', you won't find one in any sport, including lacrosse. Try outs aren't blind, the best kids are tied up in advance by every team, the weakest kids based on the previous year's game play are playing for their spot in the try outs. The kids who don't make it often have parents who blame it on politics. Whether you like it or not, Xtreme has taken players from Express and TLI over the years, and no one from Xtreme has voluntarily left to go to those organizations. Xtreme also beat those two teams (and everyone else) this Fall with their current roster. Call it political, but the results on the field are undeniable.
So is the fact that multiple kids on the team should be playing 2017 according NYS school cut off dates. No big deal, but it is interesting that when you played the one team (TEAM LI) that actually goes by US lax rules you barely won. We all know that you have at least some kids that wouldn't make the team LI team because they're too OLD. Don't come back on here and say it's not so. Former players on the team KNOW how old everyone is. No big deal, it works for the MD and PA clubs, so have at it.
Oh boy, read the above if your looking for 'comebacks'. If you are looking for a non-political environment for your son to play a sport, as succinctly put above in someone's above 'comeback', you won't find one in any sport, including lacrosse. Try outs aren't blind, the best kids are tied up in advance by every team, the weakest kids based on the previous year's game play are playing for their spot in the try outs. The kids who don't make it often have parents who blame it on politics. Whether you like it or not, Xtreme has taken players from Express and TLI over the years, and no one from Xtreme has voluntarily left to go to those organizations. Xtreme also beat those two teams (and everyone else) this Fall with their current roster. Call it political, but the results on the field are undeniable.
I agree regarding the tryouts. These teams are well established and you can't expect wholesale changes. Someone is going to have to be a proven player to break a AA teams line up.
As far as Xtreme taking the other teams players and no one voluntarily leaving, You would think that with all these superstar defections there would be a much bigger gap in results an quality of play on the field. Last summer you lost to express (an beat them) and last week you beat a depleted TLI team by a goal in a game that could have gone either way.No excuses a loss is a loss, but Let's not pound our chests. Like an earlier poster wrote, ALL these kids on all three teams are talented and play their hearts out! It just seems that it is so important for the Xtreme parents to want to separate themselves and tell everyone how many games they won and who they beat! don't get me wrong EVERYONE wants to win, and it is important to teach the kids to compete, but it is comical how many (not all) of the Xtreme parents think that if they lose or win it makes their kid any better or worse. Their all great kids and great teams there is no need to advertise your so called superiority!
Old argument, well covered last year. Xtreme and TLI teams are basically the same age - Dukes and Crabs are much older than both LI teams.
The thread was pounding Xtreme coaches for political roster picks - if the picks are so political, then why is TLI 0-2 against Xtreme in last last 12 months and Express 1-3? Political picks don't seem to be hurting Xtreme's results - that is the point of mentioning them. If the team is so political, then why doesn't anyone leave - like the way kids leave TLI and Express to go to Xtreme?
The thread was pounding Xtreme coaches for political roster picks - if the picks are so political, then why is TLI 0-2 against Xtreme in last last 12 months and Express 1-3? Political picks don't seem to be hurting Xtreme's results - that is the point of mentioning them. If the team is so political, then why doesn't anyone leave - like the way kids leave TLI and Express to go to Xtreme?
You just can't help yourself can u? Yes u did have that record, congratulations! I am not sure either team even bothers to play the almighty Xtreme. Everyone should just bow and forfeit at the sight of those Shiney helmets! please!!!!! But I will indulge u and answer your question. Have u noticed that half your team barley or doesn't play in close games?? Kids can't hurt u in games if they are not in there!!! If u didn't notice there wasn't an Xtreme goal scored by a long island kid in the TLI game. That being said if the kids and parents are ok with it then it's all good. Its their choice.
The thread was pounding Xtreme coaches for political roster picks - if the picks are so political, then why is TLI 0-2 against Xtreme in last last 12 months and Express 1-3? Political picks don't seem to be hurting Xtreme's results - that is the point of mentioning them. If the team is so political, then why doesn't anyone leave - like the way kids leave TLI and Express to go to Xtreme?
You just can't help yourself can u? Yes u did have that record, congratulations! I am not sure either team even bothers to play the almighty Xtreme. Everyone should just bow and forfeit at the sight of those Shiney helmets! please!!!!! But I will indulge u and answer your question. Have u noticed that half your team barley or doesn't play in close games?? Kids can't hurt u in games if they are not in there!!! If u didn't notice there wasn't an Xtreme goal scored by a long island kid in the TLI game. That being said if the kids and parents are ok with it then it's all good. Its their choice.
that's funny - no goals by a born, bred, and corn fed long islander.
The thread was pounding Xtreme coaches for political roster picks - if the picks are so political, then why is TLI 0-2 against Xtreme in last last 12 months and Express 1-3? Political picks don't seem to be hurting Xtreme's results - that is the point of mentioning them. If the team is so political, then why doesn't anyone leave - like the way kids leave TLI and Express to go to Xtreme?
You just can't help yourself can u? Yes u did have that record, congratulations! I am not sure either team even bothers to play the almighty Xtreme. Everyone should just bow and forfeit at the sight of those Shiney helmets! please!!!!! But I will indulge u and answer your question. Have u noticed that half your team barley or doesn't play in close games?? Kids can't hurt u in games if they are not in there!!! If u didn't notice there wasn't an Xtreme goal scored by a long island kid in the TLI game. That being said if the kids and parents are ok with it then it's all good. Its their choice.
that's funny - no goals by a born, bred, and corn fed long islander.
today I am thankful for so many things, I am thankful for my child's health and happiness and lacrosse ability and early birth date. I am most thankful to MC and JL and all of the Express for having a great team with great parents and kids. Thank you John and Mike and I hope you had a great holiday
Somebody needs spell check.... Barley, shiney??
so if the results on the field are undeniable, and extreme is such a superpower, than why does the coach actively recruit kids from other teams? Hey, If I had a team that won every game, I would want to stick with that team. Makes sense right? so why are extreme parents worried each season that their kid is going to be kicked to the curb and replaced by a kid from another team? because that's what happens when these TLI and Express kids take their spots right? just saying...
Old argument, well covered last year. Xtreme and TLI teams are basically the same age - Dukes and Crabs are much older than both LI teams.
Basically? Close enough? TL has HS kids on team. How can you debate this?
so if the results on the field are undeniable, and extreme is such a superpower, than why does the coach actively recruit kids from other teams? Hey, If I had a team that won every game, I would want to stick with that team. Makes sense right? so why are extreme parents worried each season that their kid is going to be kicked to the curb and replaced by a kid from another team? because that's what happens when these TLI and Express kids take their spots right? just saying...
Each of the top LI and MD teams make many roster changes every year - it's the way it works.
Old argument, well covered last year. Xtreme and TLI teams are basically the same age - Dukes and Crabs are much older than both LI teams.
Basically? Close enough? TL has HS kids on team. How can you debate this?
It's not a debate. TLI and Xtreme are eligible for the same brackets in age-based tournies. They can't play each other in grade based tournies unless Xtreme goes 'up' in grade to play TLI, as they did last weekend. Same aged teams, different grade teams.
Thanks for your indulgence. What I noticed in that game was a group of boys playing together to pull out another come from behind win against TLI - again. I don't think the boys or the organization really care what town or county or state they're from, but it is a little sad that it matters to you.
The thread was pounding Xtreme coaches for political roster picks - if the picks are so political, then why is TLI 0-2 against Xtreme in last last 12 months and Express 1-3? Political picks don't seem to be hurting Xtreme's results - that is the point of mentioning them. If the team is so political, then why doesn't anyone leave - like the way kids leave TLI and Express to go to Xtreme?
You just can't help yourself can u? Yes u did have that record, congratulations! I am not sure either team even bothers to play the almighty Xtreme. Everyone should just bow and forfeit at the sight of those Shiney helmets! please!!!!! But I will indulge u and answer your question. Have u noticed that half your team barley or doesn't play in close games?? Kids can't hurt u in games if they are not in there!!! If u didn't notice there wasn't an Xtreme goal scored by a long island kid in the TLI game. That being said if the kids and parents are ok with it then it's all good. Its their choice.
that's funny - no goals by a born, bred, and corn fed long islander.
Thanks for your indulgence. What I noticed in that game was a group of boys playing together to pull out another come from behind win against TLI - again. I don't think the boys or the organization really care what town or county or state they're from, but it is a little sad that it matters to you.
The thread was pounding Xtreme coaches for political roster picks - if the picks are so political, then why is TLI 0-2 against Xtreme in last last 12 months and Express 1-3? Political picks don't seem to be hurting Xtreme's results - that is the point of mentioning them. If the team is so political, then why doesn't anyone leave - like the way kids leave TLI and Express to go to Xtreme?
You just can't help yourself can u? Yes u did have that record, congratulations! I am not sure either team even bothers to play the almighty Xtreme. Everyone should just bow and forfeit at the sight of those Shiney helmets! please!!!!! But I will indulge u and answer your question. Have u noticed that half your team barley or doesn't play in close games?? Kids can't hurt u in games if they are not in there!!! If u didn't notice there wasn't an Xtreme goal scored by a long island kid in the TLI game. That being said if the kids and parents are ok with it then it's all good. Its their choice.
that's funny - no goals by a born, bred, and corn fed long islander.
No one cares. Its just an observation. You asked why Xtreme is so successful even though it is political. And how they recruited all the other teams best players. I was just pointing out that none of the kids recruited from TLI or Express made a significant impact. I would rather my son's team play the best kids out there to push themselves and improve. My point was that you don't need to actively to have a great team. TLI and Express do a great job in developing players. In addition u said nobody voluntarily left, which is true, but the 2 cast offs from 91 (possibly political reasons) played significant roles in a very close game. They competed with their former teammates and proved they belong on either team. Again all that being said, all these teams and coaches do a great job and put quality players and teams on the field. There is no need to get into childish pissing matches over who is better or wins and loses. It takes away from what is important. The kids have other teams in their backyard that they can compete at a high level with. When the parents need to make it more than it is it trickles down to the kids. Let the coaches and players do their talking on the field! Us parents need to stay quiet.
You talk about being 'quiet' but can't help yourself from throwing more kids under the bus - moving from the 'non long island kids' last night to the ex TLI/Express kids today. Every good team in the country actively recruits - if TLI doesn't then it is the exception to the rule.
You talk about being 'quiet' but can't help yourself from throwing more kids under the bus - moving from the 'non long island kids' last night to the ex TLI/Express kids today. Every good team in the country actively recruits - if TLI doesn't then it is the exception to the rule.
Explain to me how saying 2 kids played significant roles in the game is throwing anyone under the bus??? Again just responding to your post about if some of the picks were political. Sometimes political picks are necessary for team chemistry or to secure another player, but there are many cases where the better player gets let go and the player that stays is not a significant contributor. My point with the 2 kids was to illustrate that they are very good players who could contribute to either team.
You talk about being 'quiet' but can't help yourself from throwing more kids under the bus - moving from the 'non long island kids' last night to the ex TLI/Express kids today. Every good team in the country actively recruits - if TLI doesn't then it is the exception to the rule.
A lot of teams probably do recruit but how many offer scholarships to 7th and 8th graders just to get them on their team?
When you question whether kids and parents have a problem with 'non long island kids' on the team, you are throwing them under the bus. They are very aware of their outsider status and don't need parents on this thread pointing it out. When you assert that the ex TLI and Express kids were insignificant to the result of the game, you are throwing them under the bus. These kids all know who you are referring to; they all read this thread. Stop criticizing them.
When you question whether kids and parents have a problem with 'non long island kids' on the team, you are throwing them under the bus. They are very aware of their outsider status and don't need parents on this thread pointing it out. When you assert that the ex TLI and Express kids were insignificant to the result of the game, you are throwing them under the bus. These kids all know who you are referring to; they all read this thread. Stop criticizing them.
GO back and read. It says SIGNIFICANT. That is a compliment!
The relevant quote from you above: "none of the kids recruited from TLI or Express made a significant impact". If that's your idea of a compliment I would hate to see your criticism.
ok enough already. both teams play very well and how lucky are we that we can get great competition right here in our own backyard! Movement will continue to happen and parents need to move on and deal with it. we don't have to agree with each other but lets try to respect each other for the boys sake. remember, we are their role models
ok enough already. both teams play very well and how lucky are we that we can get great competition right here in our own backyard! Movement will continue to happen and parents need to move on and deal with it. we don't have to agree with each other but lets try to respect each other for the boys sake. remember, we are their role models
Amen! Please Stop making an issue where there is none! These teams have always had healthy competition. and the kids respect each other!
Now that is a funny post. I'm sure the kids on Xtreme (particularly the 10 or so you criticized) read your posts and one phrase comes to their minds - 'role model'!
So what are people's thoughts on the brine tryouts? Here's mine: With the amount of money that was taken in, is it possible that they could have gotten some impartial evaluators? SL coach of Extreme? Really? Of the 10 players he had there if more than 3 or 4 make the team it's a total sham.
So what are people's thoughts on the brine tryouts? Here's mine: With the amount of money that was taken in, is it possible that they could have gotten some impartial evaluators? SL coach of Extreme? Really? Of the 10 players he had there if more than 3 or 4 make the team it's a total sham.
BOTC has been discussing this same topic in the Boys 2017 thread. Did you know that the organizers put out an open call for evaluators to register approximately three weeks before the event?
So what are people's thoughts on the brine tryouts? Here's mine: With the amount of money that was taken in, is it possible that they could have gotten some impartial evaluators? SL coach of Extreme? Really? Of the 10 players he had there if more than 3 or 4 make the team it's a total sham.
BOTC has been discussing this same topic in the Boys 2017 thread. Did you know that the organizers put out an open call for evaluators to register approximately three weeks before the event?
Seems to me, with the amount of revenue generated, they clearly could have secured impartial judges with no ties to local lax community.
So what are people's thoughts on the brine tryouts? Here's mine: With the amount of money that was taken in, is it possible that they could have gotten some impartial evaluators? SL coach of Extreme? Really? Of the 10 players he had there if more than 3 or 4 make the team it's a total sham.
BOTC has been discussing this same topic in the Boys 2017 thread. Did you know that the organizers put out an open call for evaluators to register approximately three weeks before the event?
Seems to me, with the amount of revenue generated, they clearly could have secured impartial judges with no ties to local lax community.
My son plays for the Terps and was at the tryout yesterday - I have an older son that has already played in the event so I have been through this before. here are a few of my opinions based on this post and a few on the 2017 thread.
1) this is a business and the goal of most businesses is to maximize profits, anything done to change the set up of this tryout and tournament is to make it better so more people will come to tryouts and they will make more money - and I think this is ok, it just is what it is)
2) the format sucked, I do not see how you can evaluate kids for a lacrosse team when they never had a chance to play lacrosse, the better "Athletes" could be missed in a skill/half field only tryout. They never had a chance to play lacrosse - if it was my event, I would have had four 45 minute games. Each kid would play in one game of Lacrosse - 2 field, 4 game, 8 team, 20 kids per team and 160 kids getting evaluated playing lacrosse.
3) I don't care if SL picks the entire team by himself or has nothing to do with the selection, any LI MS team would have 8-10 Extreme players on it if they wanted to win. Everybody needs to cut the crap about him having a clipboard, personally I don't think a father should be on the field if they have a kid in the tryout but I also think that if any of the Extreme players make this team over your or my kid it is because they are better then your or my kid not because Sal was on the field at the tryout.
4) This is a great summer event that gives kid a chance to play on a LI team with players they normally compete against and anybody that is fortunate enough to make this should be very happy for the experience their kid is going to have, My older son made strong friendships on this team that remains three years later, so good luck and enjoy
Just how do you propose this happens? Have 7 evaluators from South Jersey come to LI on a Sunday in December to a 3hour tryout? Then everyone would be complaining my son had a bad tryout, they did not know my son.... My son was there - was it perfect, no. Is it a good lesson for the players; darn yes, you are not always going to get a fair look, you are not always going to be on a line with capable players, if you are schooled in fundamentals, and know how to play lacrosse you will play hard and let the chips fall where they may...if you can only be a spot-up shooter, can't go left, don't want to pass you were exposed (whether they make the team or not)take it as a lesson...and no 40 more private lessons are not going to fix it - be an athlete, be a player... The one change I would recommend would be to seperate the age groups, there is no way for even a decent 6th grader to compete with 8th graders. In other areas of the country I am sure they have an issue with pure numbers so they have to include those age groups, not so on LI
Last year when the middle school rosters were posted the same complaints we are starting to see came out. Replace 2017 with 2018 and replace Turtle with Extreme and you could avoid having to even post this year. Just recycle last year's posts.
The good stuff is that 6 months later the LI North team crushed everyone and the LI South team played very well. The approximately 50 2017s who made up the two teams generally had a good experience. There were some expections (read the old posts).
This year with the LI Pride games there will be more time to evaluate so the process is already improved from last year. Not perfect, but improved.
Just how do you propose this happens? Have 7 evaluators from South Jersey come to LI on a Sunday in December to a 3hour tryout? Then everyone would be complaining my son had a bad tryout, they did not know my son.... My son was there - was it perfect, no. Is it a good lesson for the players; darn yes, you are not always going to get a fair look, you are not always going to be on a line with capable players, if you are schooled in fundamentals, and know how to play lacrosse you will play hard and let the chips fall where they may...if you can only be a spot-up shooter, can't go left, don't want to pass you were exposed (whether they make the team or not)take it as a lesson...and no 40 more private lessons are not going to fix it - be an athlete, be a player... The one change I would recommend would be to seperate the age groups, there is no way for even a decent 6th grader to compete with 8th graders. In other areas of the country I am sure they have an issue with pure numbers so they have to include those age groups, not so on LI
Thank you.......spot on
Just how do you propose this happens? Have 7 evaluators from South Jersey come to LI on a Sunday in December to a 3hour tryout? Then everyone would be complaining my son had a bad tryout, they did not know my son.... My son was there - was it perfect, no. Is it a good lesson for the players; darn yes, you are not always going to get a fair look, you are not always going to be on a line with capable players, if you are schooled in fundamentals, and know how to play lacrosse you will play hard and let the chips fall where they may...if you can only be a spot-up shooter, can't go left, don't want to pass you were exposed (whether they make the team or not)take it as a lesson...and no 40 more private lessons are not going to fix it - be an athlete, be a player... The one change I would recommend would be to seperate the age groups, there is no way for even a decent 6th grader to compete with 8th graders. In other areas of the country I am sure they have an issue with pure numbers so they have to include those age groups, not so on LI
Thank you.......spot on
I may be way off, but did some person state that there was no way that a 6th grader could compete with an 8th grader on the same field? May I invite the next person to point out what is so confusing about that assertion? Shall we discriminate here, as PD and FD have been forced to do.
So what are people's thoughts on the brine tryouts? Here's mine: With the amount of money that was taken in, is it possible that they could have gotten some impartial evaluators? SL coach of Extreme? Really? Of the 10 players he had there if more than 3 or 4 make the team it's a total sham.
BOTC has been discussing this same topic in the Boys 2017 thread. Did you know that the organizers put out an open call for evaluators to register approximately three weeks before the event?
Seems to me, with the amount of revenue generated, they clearly could have secured impartial judges with no ties to local lax community.
Fantastic idea, Albert Einstein. I am sure that we would all approve of the fee increase as well, to ferry the folks from other states. Sorry about the shot, but evaluators in hoods sound good? Wait, I am not sorry.
Seems to me, with the amount of revenue generated, they clearly could have secured impartial judges with no ties to local lax community.
Fantastic idea, Albert Einstein. I am sure that we would all approve of the fee increase as well, to ferry the folks from other states. Sorry about the shot, but evaluators in hoods sound good? Wait, I am not sorry.
Did anyone think that Tom Rotanz would be an excellent evaluator as he has a deep knowledge of the game along with twenty years of coaching experience? If not him specifically, he would have been the first source I would have contacted for ideas on pulling together an evaluation commmitee.
This does not need to be controversial - it does require credible names, respected within the community, and without immediate local to the players on the field.
So what are people's thoughts on the brine tryouts? Here's mine: With the amount of money that was taken in, is it possible that they could have gotten some impartial evaluators? SL coach of Extreme? Really? Of the 10 players he had there if more than 3 or 4 make the team it's a total sham.
BOTC has been discussing this same topic in the Boys 2017 thread. Did you know that the organizers put out an open call for evaluators to register approximately three weeks before the event?
Seems to me, with the amount of revenue generated, they clearly could have secured impartial judges with no ties to local lax community.
Fantastic idea, Albert Einstein. I am sure that we would all approve of the fee increase as well, to ferry the folks from other states. Sorry about the shot, but evaluators in hoods sound good? Wait, I am not sorry.
Hey dunce, with all the local colleges right here on LI you could easily get some local well informed lax guys to evaluate wth no ties to the club scene. Imagine that! Albert Einstein... What a punk.
So what are people's thoughts on the brine tryouts? Here's mine: With the amount of money that was taken in, is it possible that they could have gotten some impartial evaluators? SL coach of Extreme? Really? Of the 10 players he had there if more than 3 or 4 make the team it's a total sham.
BOTC has been discussing this same topic in the Boys 2017 thread. Did you know that the organizers put out an open call for evaluators to register approximately three weeks before the event?
Seems to me, with the amount of revenue generated, they clearly could have secured impartial judges with no ties to local lax community.
My son plays for the Terps and was at the tryout yesterday - I have an older son that has already played in the event so I have been through this before. here are a few of my opinions based on this post and a few on the 2017 thread.
1) this is a business and the goal of most businesses is to maximize profits, anything done to change the set up of this tryout and tournament is to make it better so more people will come to tryouts and they will make more money - and I think this is ok, it just is what it is)
2) the format sucked, I do not see how you can evaluate kids for a lacrosse team when they never had a chance to play lacrosse, the better "Athletes" could be missed in a skill/half field only tryout. They never had a chance to play lacrosse - if it was my event, I would have had four 45 minute games. Each kid would play in one game of Lacrosse - 2 field, 4 game, 8 team, 20 kids per team and 160 kids getting evaluated playing lacrosse.
3) I don't care if SL picks the entire team by himself or has nothing to do with the selection, any LI MS team would have 8-10 Extreme players on it if they wanted to win. Everybody needs to cut the crap about him having a clipboard, personally I don't think a father should be on the field if they have a kid in the tryout but I also think that if any of the Extreme players make this team over your or my kid it is because they are better then your or my kid not because Sal was on the field at the tryout.
4) This is a great summer event that gives kid a chance to play on a LI team with players they normally compete against and anybody that is fortunate enough to make this should be very happy for the experience their kid is going to have, My older son made strong friendships on this team that remains three years later, so good luck and enjoy
The point is, there are kids on other club teams that are just as big, strong, fast and talented as those on Xtreme. Does that team have more of them? Yes. However, if you watched the tryouts yesterday you would see that while some of the xtreme kids did well, on a whole they were much less standout as they are collectively as a team. Plenty of kids from other clubs and kids with town helmets on that were just as strong. Perhaps we'll see that in the final group. However, given the evaluators club ties, I doubt that will be the result. Those are just the facts.
Seems to me, with the amount of revenue generated, they clearly could have secured impartial judges with no ties to local lax community.
Fantastic idea, Albert Einstein. I am sure that we would all approve of the fee increase as well, to ferry the folks from other states. Sorry about the shot, but evaluators in hoods sound good? Wait, I am not sorry.
Did anyone think that Tom Rotanz would be an excellent evaluator as he has a deep knowledge of the game along with twenty years of coaching experience? If not him specifically, he would have been the first source I would have contacted for ideas on pulling together an evaluation commmitee.
This does not need to be controversial - it does require credible names, respected within the community, and without immediate local to the players on the field.
Cage - I can't believe that after all these years you still don't get it!!!! below is the post that would have appeared the day after a Tom Rotanz run tryout
"SOS, TR had all the kids that warmed up with the power shaft on one team and he watched them the whole time. I heard he actually cut a kid before the start of the tryout when he found out the kid's uncle is on the SWR school board. this is going to be a very Suffolk oriented team with TR picking it, he is going to take care of all his buddy's teams, I saw 5 evaluators with WM and RP scarves on and you know who they are taking!!!!!! Why can't the get the club coaches to do the evaluations, MC and SL know these kids better then anyone and they would be fair and pick the best team"
Cage - I can't believe that after all these years you still don't get it!!!! below is the post that would have appeared the day after a Tom Rotanz run tryout
"SOS, TR had all the kids that warmed up with the power shaft on one team and he watched them the whole time. I heard he actually cut a kid before the start of the tryout when he found out the kid's uncle is on the SWR school board. this is going to be a very Suffolk oriented team with TR picking it, he is going to take care of all his buddy's teams, I saw 5 evaluators with WM and RP scarves on and you know who they are taking!!!!!! Why can't the get the club coaches to do the evaluations, MC and SL know these kids better then anyone and they would be fair and pick the best team"
Thanks very much for the light-hearted post. This did make us laugh.
The middle school tryouts were a joke. My son was on team 1 which spent the whole time on the second field. And for the last two hours, no evaluator had a clipboard in his hands. Not one. The evaluators were yelling instructions to 91 and express kids they know. As one expected, my sense is a majority of spots were/ are predetermined. I get it (to an extent...if a Xtreme stud sucked at tryout, he probably should get a spot in the Pride of LI by reputation). But evaluators....at least try to present that it's a fair tryout. Hold clipboards as you yell out the kids whose names you know. At least parents may think our kids have somewhat of a fair chance and may pony up money again next year.
Not an Extreme parent, but if only 3 or 4 make it would surprise me. The Extreme kids definitely stood out as did most of the Terps. One evaluator does not have make the decision, he is giving up his time and I applaud him for that.
So what are people's thoughts on the brine tryouts? Here's mine: With the amount of money that was taken in, is it possible that they could have gotten some impartial evaluators? SL coach of Extreme? Really? Of the 10 players he had there if more than 3 or 4 make the team it's a total sham.
I would have to disagree, if the spots were predetermined, why would they change a format of the tryouts. Previous years I would have to agree with you since the tryout determined the 2 teams going to Brine. This year, they are selecting 3 or 4 teams to play against each other to then pick the top players to represent LI. I personally believe my child will be selected to one of those teams and I can guarantee he will work and give 110% in hopes of being selected. That is the only true measure, not clipboards and discouraged parents who then make excuses for their child's efforts. I overheard several parents complaining about the format, the cold, the clipboards. Let's just stop the whining, your kids hear you whine and in turn they use that as an excuse for not performing to their best.
The middle school tryouts were a joke. My son was on team 1 which spent the whole time on the second field. And for the last two hours, no evaluator had a clipboard in his hands. Not one. The evaluators were yelling instructions to 91 and express kids they know. As one expected, my sense is a majority of spots were/ are predetermined. I get it (to an extent...if a Xtreme stud sucked at tryout, he probably should get a spot in the Pride of LI by reputation). But evaluators....at least try to present that it's a fair tryout. Hold clipboards as you yell out the kids whose names you know. At least parents may think our kids have somewhat of a fair chance and may pony up money again next year.
The middle school tryouts were a joke. My son was on team 1 which spent the whole time on the second field. And for the last two hours, no evaluator had a clipboard in his hands. Not one. The evaluators were yelling instructions to 91 and express kids they know. As one expected, my sense is a majority of spots were/ are predetermined. I get it (to an extent...if a Xtreme stud sucked at tryout, he probably should get a spot in the Pride of LI by reputation). But evaluators....at least try to present that it's a fair tryout. Hold clipboards as you yell out the kids whose names you know. At least parents may think our kids have somewhat of a fair chance and may pony up money again next year.
The joke to me were people that bought down their 70 lbs 6th graders to tryout for this team. My son is in 8th grade is 5'6" and 145lbs and I would not bring him down last year as a 7th grader because I thought it was a waist of time and money and I also felt that he can go as an 8th grader and experience the event once (if he makes it) and if he can't make it as an 8th grader he certainly wasn't going to make it as a 7th grader. Parents need to stop setting your kids up for failure, they need a reality check - people are complaining about the evaluators when half the kids couldn't play. There is no 6th grader on LI that could make Xtreme or Terps and probably not too many 7th graders that could. Do you really think that Per-Puberty Paulie is going to make a Long Island all-star team made up of 8th graders? My guess is that you had 25 kids that will be playing JV this year and probably a couple that will be on their varsities by the end of the year so keep complaining about the evaluators and ignore that your kid is not good enough or is not ready yet.
I would have to disagree, if the spots were predetermined, why would they change a format of the tryouts. Previous years I would have to agree with you since the tryout determined the 2 teams going to Brine. This year, they are selecting 3 or 4 teams to play against each other to then pick the top players to represent LI. I personally believe my child will be selected to one of those teams and I can guarantee he will work and give 110% in hopes of being selected. That is the only true measure, not clipboards and discouraged parents who then make excuses for their child's efforts. I overheard several parents complaining about the format, the cold, the clipboards. Let's just stop the whining, your kids hear you whine and in turn they use that as an excuse for not performing to their best.
The middle school tryouts were a joke. My son was on team 1 which spent the whole time on the second field. And for the last two hours, no evaluator had a clipboard in his hands. Not one. The evaluators were yelling instructions to 91 and express kids they know. As one expected, my sense is a majority of spots were/ are predetermined. I get it (to an extent...if a Xtreme stud sucked at tryout, he probably should get a spot in the Pride of LI by reputation). But evaluators....at least try to present that it's a fair tryout. Hold clipboards as you yell out the kids whose names you know. At least parents may think our kids have somewhat of a fair chance and may pony up money again next year.
Its another money grab if they charge. Plain and simple. Another way to get peoples money. Smoke and mirrors. Ok here is the scenario: Kid has monster tryout. Gives 150%. Really stands out. People notice and say it. Then when team selection is made your kid is not on team. Whats the reason? It happens all the time. What people or evaluators dont see or know is that kid who just performed so well finally hit puberty and has been busting his [lacrosse] training and preparing for this tryout for 5 months. Hasnt put his stick down. While others were sitting on their asses and everyone else is catching up or passing them. No excuses, it was cold for everyone. All played in same conditions, woke up early, etc.. But many will be picked based on reputation or team affiliation. Not how they do at tryout. I have heard ohh he was hurt or had a bad tryout many times for some of the better kids when they dont perform well.There is one player who was a tryout that I consider one of the best around but he had a horrible tryout. Looked like everyone else. If there were unbiased neutral evaluators he would be on the cusp of making a team. Isnt that life. You dont make a team on reputation but on the days performance. The kids will tell you who will be on the team before a tryout.
The middle school tryouts were a joke. My son was on team 1 which spent the whole time on the second field. And for the last two hours, no evaluator had a clipboard in his hands. Not one. The evaluators were yelling instructions to 91 and express kids they know. As one expected, my sense is a majority of spots were/ are predetermined. I get it (to an extent...if a Xtreme stud sucked at tryout, he probably should get a spot in the Pride of LI by reputation). But evaluators....at least try to present that it's a fair tryout. Hold clipboards as you yell out the kids whose names you know. At least parents may think our kids have somewhat of a fair chance and may pony up money again next year.
The joke to me were people that bought down their 70 lbs 6th graders to tryout for this team. My son is in 8th grade is 5'6" and 145lbs and I would not bring him down last year as a 7th grader because I thought it was a waist of time and money and I also felt that he can go as an 8th grader and experience the event once (if he makes it) and if he can't make it as an 8th grader he certainly wasn't going to make it as a 7th grader. Parents need to stop setting your kids up for failure, they need a reality check - people are complaining about the evaluators when half the kids couldn't play. There is no 6th grader on LI that could make Xtreme or Terps and probably not too many 7th graders that could. Do you really think that Per-Puberty Paulie is going to make a Long Island all-star team made up of 8th graders? My guess is that you had 25 kids that will be playing JV this year and probably a couple that will be on their varsities by the end of the year so keep complaining about the evaluators and ignore that your kid is not good enough or is not ready yet.
I don't think anyone was talking about undersized 6th and 7th graders. I think the real issue is with the kids who are not on the terps or Extreme. I can think of a number of players at every position that were wearing town or other club helmets and matched up very well against Extreme or terp players. That is the point. Many of these kids were just as big, strong, fast and talented. To some of the previous posters points, they will be the ones passed over in favor of those affiliated with certain clubs.
The middle school tryouts were a joke. My son was on team 1 which spent the whole time on the second field. And for the last two hours, no evaluator had a clipboard in his hands. Not one. The evaluators were yelling instructions to 91 and express kids they know. As one expected, my sense is a majority of spots were/ are predetermined. I get it (to an extent...if a Xtreme stud sucked at tryout, he probably should get a spot in the Pride of LI by reputation). But evaluators....at least try to present that it's a fair tryout. Hold clipboards as you yell out the kids whose names you know. At least parents may think our kids have somewhat of a fair chance and may pony up money again next year.
The joke to me were people that bought down their 70 lbs 6th graders to tryout for this team. My son is in 8th grade is 5'6" and 145lbs and I would not bring him down last year as a 7th grader because I thought it was a waist of time and money and I also felt that he can go as an 8th grader and experience the event once (if he makes it) and if he can't make it as an 8th grader he certainly wasn't going to make it as a 7th grader. Parents need to stop setting your kids up for failure, they need a reality check - people are complaining about the evaluators when half the kids couldn't play. There is no 6th grader on LI that could make Xtreme or Terps and probably not too many 7th graders that could. Do you really think that Per-Puberty Paulie is going to make a Long Island all-star team made up of 8th graders? My guess is that you had 25 kids that will be playing JV this year and probably a couple that will be on their varsities by the end of the year so keep complaining about the evaluators and ignore that your kid is not good enough or is not ready yet.
How many 7th and 6th graders showed up?
I know of a limited amount of towns that are fortunate to have both a 6th and a 7th grader who can physically match up to 8th graders and could've try out. (size 5'4"+ 150lbs+) Many of those boys play on some pretty good travel teams. Would they beat out an Extreme Player or Terp; not sure, doubt it. I just hope next year we don't have a replay of the same issues as in the past 2 years.
The middle school tryouts were a joke. My son was on team 1 which spent the whole time on the second field. And for the last two hours, no evaluator had a clipboard in his hands. Not one. The evaluators were yelling instructions to 91 and express kids they know. As one expected, my sense is a majority of spots were/ are predetermined. I get it (to an extent...if a Xtreme stud sucked at tryout, he probably should get a spot in the Pride of LI by reputation). But evaluators....at least try to present that it's a fair tryout. Hold clipboards as you yell out the kids whose names you know. At least parents may think our kids have somewhat of a fair chance and may pony up money again next year.
The joke to me were people that bought down their 70 lbs 6th graders to tryout for this team. My son is in 8th grade is 5'6" and 145lbs and I would not bring him down last year as a 7th grader because I thought it was a waist of time and money and I also felt that he can go as an 8th grader and experience the event once (if he makes it) and if he can't make it as an 8th grader he certainly wasn't going to make it as a 7th grader. Parents need to stop setting your kids up for failure, they need a reality check - people are complaining about the evaluators when half the kids couldn't play. There is no 6th grader on LI that could make Xtreme or Terps and probably not too many 7th graders that could. Do you really think that Per-Puberty Paulie is going to make a Long Island all-star team made up of 8th graders? My guess is that you had 25 kids that will be playing JV this year and probably a couple that will be on their varsities by the end of the year so keep complaining about the evaluators and ignore that your kid is not good enough or is not ready yet.
How many 7th and 6th graders showed up?
I know of a limited amount of towns that are fortunate to have both a 6th and a 7th grader who can physically match up to 8th graders and could've try out. (size 5'4"+ 150lbs+) Many of those boys play on some pretty good travel teams. Would they beat out an Extreme Player or Terp; not sure, doubt it. I just hope next year we don't have a replay of the same issues as in the past 2 years.
There were a number of 6th and 7th graders that were there that should not have been. They truley adversely effected the tryout for the 8th graders. A zip pass in the stick gets dropped and next group is going. A hard check is avoided by just backing in and taking too much time and the drill stopped. When touches are limited like they were on Sunday. Having a few weak 6th or 7th graders in your group hurt you. It also could make players look a lot better than they are going against these players. Just either break the tryouts into age based groups then combine them or eliminate the two younger years. Long Island doesnt have a shortage of players like other regions and should be treated a bit differently.
"Long Island doesnt have a shortage of players like other regions and should be treated a bit differently." WOW! You are really full of yourself. As for the 6th and 7th graders, this is a learning experience for them to see what they need to improve on. Past years have proven that very few of the 6th and 7th graders are selected but it was something the returning kids used knowing what is expected. I think you feel your child didn't perform well and now using the younger kids as an excuse.
The middle school tryouts were a joke. My son was on team 1 which spent the whole time on the second field. And for the last two hours, no evaluator had a clipboard in his hands. Not one. The evaluators were yelling instructions to 91 and express kids they know. As one expected, my sense is a majority of spots were/ are predetermined. I get it (to an extent...if a Xtreme stud sucked at tryout, he probably should get a spot in the Pride of LI by reputation). But evaluators....at least try to present that it's a fair tryout. Hold clipboards as you yell out the kids whose names you know. At least parents may think our kids have somewhat of a fair chance and may pony up money again next year.
The joke to me were people that bought down their 70 lbs 6th graders to tryout for this team. My son is in 8th grade is 5'6" and 145lbs and I would not bring him down last year as a 7th grader because I thought it was a waist of time and money and I also felt that he can go as an 8th grader and experience the event once (if he makes it) and if he can't make it as an 8th grader he certainly wasn't going to make it as a 7th grader. Parents need to stop setting your kids up for failure, they need a reality check - people are complaining about the evaluators when half the kids couldn't play. There is no 6th grader on LI that could make Xtreme or Terps and probably not too many 7th graders that could. Do you really think that Per-Puberty Paulie is going to make a Long Island all-star team made up of 8th graders? My guess is that you had 25 kids that will be playing JV this year and probably a couple that will be on their varsities by the end of the year so keep complaining about the evaluators and ignore that your kid is not good enough or is not ready yet.
How many 7th and 6th graders showed up?
I know of a limited amount of towns that are fortunate to have both a 6th and a 7th grader who can physically match up to 8th graders and could've try out. (size 5'4"+ 150lbs+) Many of those boys play on some pretty good travel teams. Would they beat out an Extreme Player or Terp; not sure, doubt it. I just hope next year we don't have a replay of the same issues as in the past 2 years.
There were a number of 6th and 7th graders that were there that should not have been. They truley adversely effected the tryout for the 8th graders. A zip pass in the stick gets dropped and next group is going. A hard check is avoided by just backing in and taking too much time and the drill stopped. When touches are limited like they were on Sunday. Having a few weak 6th or 7th graders in your group hurt you. It also could make players look a lot better than they are going against these players. Just either break the tryouts into age based groups then combine them or eliminate the two younger years. Long Island doesnt have a shortage of players like other regions and should be treated a bit differently.
"Long Island doesnt have a shortage of players like other regions and should be treated a bit differently." WOW! You are really full of yourself. As for the 6th and 7th graders, this is a learning experience for them to see what they need to improve on. Past years have proven that very few of the 6th and 7th graders are selected but it was something the returning kids used knowing what is expected. I think you feel your child didn't perform well and now using the younger kids as an excuse.
He is not "full of himself" he is stating a fact and obviously has an understanding of this event, some regions can not full a roster even with 6th and 7th graders, and even with their 6th and 7th graders they still only show up with 15 players and then alternates from other areas (long Island) fill in the rosters. LI could field 3 competitive teams. As far as it being a learning experience for the 6th and 7th graders, well they learned that it can get really cold in December and that they are not big enough, strong enough and skilled enough to compete with Xtremley good eight graders - I could have taught them that for half the money
We advancing players are now posted on brine website
75 Middle Schoolers
73 8th grade vs. 2 7th grade
25 - Team 91
20 - LI Express
10 - fl$
5 - Team Long Island
Ther are 6 blanks and no other club/town has more than 1 name listed
Just like the years past, only 2 2019 kids are even selected even in this format, a year does make a big difference.
We advancing players are now posted on brine website
75 Middle Schoolers
73 8th grade vs. 2 7th grade
25 - Team 91
20 - LI Express
10 - fl$
5 - Team Long Island
Ther are 6 blanks and no other club/town has more than 1 name listed
You need to stop drinking the "Long Island" cool-aid, we, as a whole are strong and at times dominate but it is obvious from playing teams from all over the country, that we have no right to be treated "differently." In fact, we have been treated differently in the past by being allowed 2 teams but since Lacrosse is an ever growing sport and due the limited number of teams that go to Brine Nationals, it makes more sense to create one top team to dominate and prove we are dominant and not just say it.
"Long Island doesnt have a shortage of players like other regions and should be treated a bit differently." WOW! You are really full of yourself. As for the 6th and 7th graders, this is a learning experience for them to see what they need to improve on. Past years have proven that very few of the 6th and 7th graders are selected but it was something the returning kids used knowing what is expected. I think you feel your child didn't perform well and now using the younger kids as an excuse.
He is not "full of himself" he is stating a fact and obviously has an understanding of this event, some regions can not full a roster even with 6th and 7th graders, and even with their 6th and 7th graders they still only show up with 15 players and then alternates from other areas (long Island) fill in the rosters. LI could field 3 competitive teams. As far as it being a learning experience for the 6th and 7th graders, well they learned that it can get really cold in December and that they are not big enough, strong enough and skilled enough to compete with Xtremley good eight graders - I could have taught them that for half the money
We advancing players are now posted on brine website
75 Middle Schoolers
73 8th grade vs. 2 7th grade
25 - Team 91
20 - LI Express
10 - fl$
5 - Team Long Island
Ther are 6 blanks and no other club/town has more than 1 name listed
Congratulations to the boys that actually earned their spot for Pride of Long Island and the possibility of representing Long Island at Brine. You overcame a few huge hurdles: nepotism and homerism to accomplish making this team. Good luck. For the players not chosen use it as fuel. You know you were good enough and never let someone's selfish motives defeat your dreams.
I don't know about that! Some of the 2018 players chosen would have a hard time making the top 2019 teams. Earned a spot for the next round? sure... making the " A" team. Doubt it. It's about money. It will happen again next year, parents will complain, the year after that and so on.
I don't know about that! Some of the 2018 players chosen would have a hard time making the top 2019 teams. Earned a spot for the next round? sure... making the " A" team. Doubt it. It's about money. It will happen again next year, parents will complain, the year after that and so on.
That's why I emphasized earned and overcame homerism and nepotism. Never would I have evaluators who's children were trying out for team they were evaluating.
Sorry about that! Kudos! You nailed it right on the head
You need to stop drinking the "Long Island" cool-aid, we, as a whole are strong and at times dominate but it is obvious from playing teams from all over the country, that we have no right to be treated "differently." In fact, we have been treated differently in the past by being allowed 2 teams but since Lacrosse is an ever growing sport and due the limited number of teams that go to Brine Nationals, it makes more sense to create one top team to dominate and prove we are dominant and not just say it.
"Long Island doesnt have a shortage of players like other regions and should be treated a bit differently." WOW! You are really full of yourself. As for the 6th and 7th graders, this is a learning experience for them to see what they need to improve on. Past years have proven that very few of the 6th and 7th graders are selected but it was something the returning kids used knowing what is expected. I think you feel your child didn't perform well and now using the younger kids as an excuse.
He is not "full of himself" he is stating a fact and obviously has an understanding of this event, some regions can not full a roster even with 6th and 7th graders, and even with their 6th and 7th graders they still only show up with 15 players and then alternates from other areas (long Island) fill in the rosters. LI could field 3 competitive teams. As far as it being a learning experience for the 6th and 7th graders, well they learned that it can get really cold in December and that they are not big enough, strong enough and skilled enough to compete with Xtremley good eight graders - I could have taught them that for half the money
not drinking cool-aid and not blind to what is going on in the rest of the country, I do, however, know this particular tournament and the fact that many parts of the country do not field competitive and full teams in the MS division maybe it is not as well promoted as LI but a few regions are basically walk on. so yes LI deserves special treatment because they have a large pool of talented players to choose from FOR THIS EVENT
This is just the beginning for the age group. At least this finally ends the argument that all those love thy town lax people have had of "don't do club and stick with the summer town program"... There is clearly a benefit to playing on club. Not to mention the clubs make your school kids better.
This is just the beginning for the age group. At least this finally ends the argument that all those love thy town lax people have had of "don't do club and stick with the summer town program"... There is clearly a benefit to playing on club. Not to mention the clubs make your school kids better.
Or if you pay 5k a year to play lacrosse all year round for right club you will get the nod for call backs to weekend event and most likely won't make team anyway?
If you think this is all about talent and their is no politics here you are living in fantasy world. Hopefully, best 25 will make final team. It will certainly include mostly club players just based on pool left!
25 - Team 91
20 - LI Express
10 - fl$
5 - Team Long Island
of the 6 without club affiliate 1 played on extreme last year and chose not to tryout this year and another made terps 2 years ago and also chose not to play. In addition I did not see an Express, fl$ or TLI evaluator yet they managed to get 35 spots.
I think that playing on a club team does not make you a top player as much as a majority of the top players play club. How the final teams are picked is obviously yet to be seen but I find it hard to believe that a top 25 player did not make the top 75 call back so after all is said and done it looks like hey got it right
25 - Team 91
20 - LI Express
10 - fl$
5 - Team Long Island
of the 6 without club affiliate 1 played on extreme last year and chose not to tryout this year and another made terps 2 years ago and also chose not to play. In addition I did not see an Express, fl$ or TLI evaluator yet they managed to get 35 spots.
I think that playing on a club team does not make you a top player as much as a majority of the top players play club. How the final teams are picked is obviously yet to be seen but I find it hard to believe that a top 25 player did not make the top 75 call back so after all is said and done it looks like hey got it right
BS. There is a selection that is horrible. Absolutely horrible. He's a back up to a player on a travel team that wasn't selected. He didn't have the tryout of a lifetime. He's weak and the kids know it. Was awarded a spot another kid deserves. Just a joke. Would never name names because it has to do with kids.
25 - Team 91
20 - LI Express
10 - fl$
5 - Team Long Island
of the 6 without club affiliate 1 played on extreme last year and chose not to tryout this year and another made terps 2 years ago and also chose not to play. In addition I did not see an Express, fl$ or TLI evaluator yet they managed to get 35 spots.
I think that playing on a club team does not make you a top player as much as a majority of the top players play club. How the final teams are picked is obviously yet to be seen but I find it hard to believe that a top 25 player did not make the top 75 call back so after all is said and done it looks like hey got it right
That's one way of looking at it. Here's another, if the kid was on Extreme, automatic you made it. Didn't matter how many times the kid got beat on defense or stopped on offense. Then they basically chose based off the helmet the kids were wearing. 91 helmet in, Express A or B, in. fl$ helmet, in. Did any kid not get picked who was an 8th grader wearing one of those helmets? Maybe a couple? They then added a 2 7th graders and few other kids. I guess this is why none of the evaluators were writing anything down. They just picked by name brand club. Pretty simple, easy, way to do it. What a waste of time and money with this type of garbage. Should have listened to poster that said "event is compromised, stay away". Boy was he right!
Since they put the minors names, parents names school town, club affiliation on their web site why not put the DOB?
I know once they get to HS they will be playng together but I'd love to see their real ages not grade. This could put to bed the age discussion or confirm how each region matches up.
25 - Team 91
20 - LI Express
10 - fl$
5 - Team Long Island
of the 6 without club affiliate 1 played on extreme last year and chose not to tryout this year and another made terps 2 years ago and also chose not to play. In addition I did not see an Express, fl$ or TLI evaluator yet they managed to get 35 spots.
I think that playing on a club team does not make you a top player as much as a majority of the top players play club. How the final teams are picked is obviously yet to be seen but I find it hard to believe that a top 25 player did not make the top 75 call back so after all is said and done it looks like hey got it right
BS. There is a selection that is horrible. Absolutely horrible. He's a back up to a player on a travel team that wasn't selected. He didn't have the tryout of a lifetime. He's weak and the kids know it. Was awarded a spot another kid deserves. Just a joke. Would never name names because it has to do with kids.
25 - Team 91
20 - LI Express
10 - fl$
5 - Team Long Island
of the 6 without club affiliate 1 played on extreme last year and chose not to tryout this year and another made terps 2 years ago and also chose not to play. In addition I did not see an Express, fl$ or TLI evaluator yet they managed to get 35 spots.
I think that playing on a club team does not make you a top player as much as a majority of the top players play club. How the final teams are picked is obviously yet to be seen but I find it hard to believe that a top 25 player did not make the top 75 call back so after all is said and done it looks like hey got it right
BS. There is a selection that is horrible. Absolutely horrible. He's a back up to a player on a travel team that wasn't selected. He didn't have the tryout of a lifetime. He's weak and the kids know it. Was awarded a spot another kid deserves. Just a joke. Would never name names because it has to do with kids.
What are you responding to here??
does anyone know how many 8th graders did not make the cut?
Does anyone know what the actual numbers were for the Brine tryout? Not how many registered, how many showed up and went through tryout?
25 - Team 91
20 - LI Express
10 - fl$
5 - Team Long Island
of the 6 without club affiliate 1 played on extreme last year and chose not to tryout this year and another made terps 2 years ago and also chose not to play. In addition I did not see an Express, fl$ or TLI evaluator yet they managed to get 35 spots.
I think that playing on a club team does not make you a top player as much as a majority of the top players play club. How the final teams are picked is obviously yet to be seen but I find it hard to believe that a top 25 player did not make the top 75 call back so after all is said and done it looks like hey got it right
It all depends on the selection process for the "Pride Showcase". If it is 91 biased and we have the same evaluators, It will be an uphill battle to make the team. let's say the 25 break down to 6 attack, 10 middies with one fogo, 7 poles with one LSM, and 2 Goalies.
5 attack out of 19 are from xtreme that leaves 15 kids going for 1 spot
6 poles out of 25 are from xtreme. that leaves 19 kids going for 1spot
6 middies out of 25 are from xtreme. that leaves 19 kids going for 4 spots.
1extreme goalie leaves 1 spot open for 5 kids.
This is not counting the numerous other 91 tryouts and team affiliated kids.
These extreme kids are great lacrosse players and will get the nod over someone of equal talent or even over someone marginally better. some I suspect will even get the nod over a much better player.
with SL, TR, and RC pulling the strings, know what you are getting into before you send in the $150.
25 - Team 91
20 - LI Express
10 - fl$
5 - Team Long Island
of the 6 without club affiliate 1 played on extreme last year and chose not to tryout this year and another made terps 2 years ago and also chose not to play. In addition I did not see an Express, fl$ or TLI evaluator yet they managed to get 35 spots.
I think that playing on a club team does not make you a top player as much as a majority of the top players play club. How the final teams are picked is obviously yet to be seen but I find it hard to believe that a top 25 player did not make the top 75 call back so after all is said and done it looks like hey got it right
It all depends on the selection process for the "Pride Showcase". If it is 91 biased and we have the same evaluators, It will be an uphill battle to make the team. let's say the 25 break down to 6 attack, 10 middies with one fogo, 7 poles with one LSM, and 2 Goalies.
5 attack out of 19 are from xtreme that leaves 15 kids going for 1 spot
6 poles out of 25 are from xtreme. that leaves 19 kids going for 1spot
6 middies out of 25 are from xtreme. that leaves 19 kids going for 4 spots.
1extreme goalie leaves 1 spot open for 5 kids.
This is not counting the numerous other 91 tryouts and team affiliated kids.
These extreme kids are great lacrosse players and will get the nod over someone of equal talent or even over someone marginally better. some I suspect will even get the nod over a much better player.
with SL, TR, and RC pulling the strings, know what you are getting into before you send in the $150.
That would be unfortunate, but I guess there is always politics. Xtreme is obviously a very good team , but there is no way that their whole team is better than all the other kids that tried out? I actually think they may be the most top heavy team out there! No question their Top 2 middies, Top defender and goalie are the cream of the crop. After that the rest of the team is in the mix with the many talented kids on the other teams. How does 91 get 25 kids, express get 20 and TLI only get 5? fl$ has more? Did the TLI kids not try out?
I think people are forgetting that it was more or less the same evaluators last year, substitute JM from 91 for SL, and the majority of the kids on the LI North team were from the Express. It was something like 15 out of the 25 kids were Express kids. That team played awesome in the tournament and won the Championship going away. So they weren't biased and I guess they evaluated ok.
BTW, there was an fl$ coach there evaluating.
I think people are forgetting that it was more or less the same evaluators last year, substitute JM from 91 for SL, and the majority of the kids on the LI North team were from the Express. It was something like 15 out of the 25 kids were Express kids. That team played awesome in the tournament and won the Championship going away. So they weren't biased and I guess they evaluated ok.
BTW, there was an fl$ coach there evaluating.
This is a xtreme case. last year it was the turtles. the deck will be stacked but I would believe some extreme players will not make the cut.
As a Smithtown parent like the number of Smithtown school district players that made it through!Go Bulls
As far as towns go nice showing of Smithtown school district players,that by the way represent their Town team,fl$, 91,Express, Team LI Go Bulls
predetermined, predetermined. Thats all.
I have never posted on this site, but do find it entertaining! I have older sons and a middle school age son and have been to many lacrosse events, showcases, camps, prospect camps, tournaments, etc, etc, ....I have never seen a more blatant scam like the Brine Middle School tryouts. The "evaluators" never took notes on any of the kids...the clipboards stayed under their arms and hands in pockets (yes, it was cold!) I should have listened to my older sons who told me to stay away from this event....."its a joke,....don't waste your money...unless you play for 91" Whoever it is that runs this event should be ashamed --- and investigated to see if this scam is legal.......
Whoever it is that runs this event should be ashamed --- and investigated to see if this scam is legal.......
What is potentially illegal?
Someone hangs out a shingle, e-mails Long Island boys teams and parents to get participation, and parents flocked like lemmings. Did anyone ask prior to the tryouts, "How the evaluators were being selected or drafted?" No. Did anyone ask, "What are we getting for the tryout fee?" No. Did anyone ask, "How many players are allowed to participate given the limited field space?" No. Participants were more than happy to push their money to the organizers.
Now, you want to claim foul?
Parents bought this event without checking into the details. BOTC did not cover this event and as we have said many times, you are "on your own" in terms of quality if you do not see the event as one of our partners. If this was a BOTC event, you could be damn sure that you would have been informed on the evaluation process.
You bought it. You got burned by it. Think about it.
Whoever it is that runs this event should be ashamed --- and investigated to see if this scam is legal.......
What is potentially illegal?
Someone hangs out a shingle, e-mails Long Island boys teams and parents to get participation, and parents flocked like lemmings. Did anyone ask prior to the tryouts, "How the evaluators were being selected or drafted?" No. Did anyone ask, "What are we getting for the tryout fee?" No. Did anyone ask, "How many players are allowed to participate given the limited field space?" No. Participants were more than happy to push their money to the organizers.
Now, you want to claim foul?
Parents bought this event without checking into the details. BOTC did not cover this event and as we have said many times, you are "on your own" in terms of quality if you do not see the event as one of our partners. If this was a BOTC event, you could be damn sure that you would have been informed on the evaluation process.
You bought it. You got burned by it. Think about it.
nobody got burned, some kids got cut, my son plays on a team that did not have a coach on the field as an evaluator and still made it. This event was poorly conceived and poorly executed but last I checked incompetence is not a criminal offense and I would bet money that if every 6th and 7th grade lacrosse parent on LI reads this thread they will still sell out next year.
Has anyone heard if there will be two teams like last year for 8th Grade Long Island?
Whoever it is that runs this event should be ashamed --- and investigated to see if this scam is legal.......
What is potentially illegal?
Someone hangs out a shingle, e-mails Long Island boys teams and parents to get participation, and parents flocked like lemmings. Did anyone ask prior to the tryouts, "How the evaluators were being selected or drafted?" No. Did anyone ask, "What are we getting for the tryout fee?" No. Did anyone ask, "How many players are allowed to participate given the limited field space?" No. Participants were more than happy to push their money to the organizers.
Now, you want to claim foul?
Parents bought this event without checking into the details. BOTC did not cover this event and as we have said many times, you are "on your own" in terms of quality if you do not see the event as one of our partners. If this was a BOTC event, you could be damn sure that you would have been informed on the evaluation process.
You bought it. You got burned by it. Think about it.
nobody got burned, some kids got cut, my son plays on a team that did not have a coach on the field as an evaluator and still made it. This event was poorly conceived and poorly executed but last I checked incompetence is not a criminal offense and I would bet money that if every 6th and 7th grade lacrosse parent on LI reads this thread they will still sell out next year.
They should post evaluator notes. They would never do that but it would be funny to actually see the lack of. Since numbers were given out randomly as kids walked up. How were those evaluating able to fumble through and evaluate or rank their respective position assignment. Really think about it kids are in random groups and drills were moving quick. Now you must rank a kid and watch the next group. Lets put this scenerio out one attackman has 45 the other 170 could be three pages away. Put a rank on the right line or space. Was that 145 or 154. Damm next group. Missed that great pass or goal.
I think people are forgetting that it was more or less the same evaluators last year, substitute JM from 91 for SL, and the majority of the kids on the LI North team were from the Express. It was something like 15 out of the 25 kids were Express kids. That team played awesome in the tournament and won the Championship going away. So they weren't biased and I guess they evaluated ok.
BTW, there was an fl$ coach there evaluating.
Imagine that??
I think people are forgetting that it was more or less the same evaluators last year, substitute JM from 91 for SL, and the majority of the kids on the LI North team were from the Express. It was something like 15 out of the 25 kids were Express kids. That team played awesome in the tournament and won the Championship going away. So they weren't biased and I guess they evaluated ok.
BTW, there was an fl$ coach there evaluating.
Imagine that??
Funny, fl$ got 10 kids in and one of their coaches was an evaluator, what are the chances?
I think people are forgetting that it was more or less the same evaluators last year, substitute JM from 91 for SL, and the majority of the kids on the LI North team were from the Express. It was something like 15 out of the 25 kids were Express kids. That team played awesome in the tournament and won the Championship going away. So they weren't biased and I guess they evaluated ok.
BTW, there was an fl$ coach there evaluating.
Imagine that??
Funny, fl$ got 10 kids in and one of their coaches was an evaluator, what are the chances?
Is this a riddle?? 10 percent?
These kids have been competing against each other for years and the coaches all know who is who. Its the reason 200 kids show up (from 5 states) to the 91 tryouts Simple... make extreme or orange and you get a good look for stuff like this. Why all the shock?
These kids have been competing against each other for years and the coaches all know who is who. Its the reason 200 kids show up (from 5 states) to the 91 tryouts Simple... make extreme or orange and you get a good look for stuff like this. Why all the shock?
No shock. Just give everyone a fair look. Believe it or not , their are very good players who have never even tried out for 91. Orange is a good team but not good enough for kids to get automatically pushed through. Same with fl$. They are decent team but 10 is big number.
These kids have been competing against each other for years and the coaches all know who is who. Its the reason 200 kids show up (from 5 states) to the 91 tryouts Simple... make extreme or orange and you get a good look for stuff like this. Why all the shock?
No shock. Just give everyone a fair look. Believe it or not , their are very good players who have never even tried out for 91. Orange is a good team but not good enough for kids to get automatically pushed through. Same with fl$. They are decent team but 10 is big number.
Fair point. It is why I didn't even bother to bring my son. You would have to really stand out and unfortunately it is tough with the ability level on the field. It is why those going to Catholic HS play Express. Think about it...If you have two middies that look the same (both very good) you'll take the one you know. Not endorsing the process - just looking at it realistically.
These kids have been competing against each other for years and the coaches all know who is who. Its the reason 200 kids show up (from 5 states) to the 91 tryouts Simple... make extreme or orange and you get a good look for stuff like this. Why all the shock?
No shock. Just give everyone a fair look. Believe it or not , their are very good players who have never even tried out for 91. Orange is a good team but not good enough for kids to get automatically pushed through. Same with fl$. They are decent team but 10 is big number.
Fair point. It is why I didn't even bother to bring my son. You would have to really stand out and unfortunately it is tough with the ability level on the field. It is why those going to Catholic HS play Express. Think about it...If you have two middies that look the same (both very good) you'll take the one you know. Not endorsing the process - just looking at it realistically.
As stated before, easily could have gotten evaluators form local colleges not affiliated with any club. Would have at least made it a bit more even handed. Here's a little tid bit though. This event has zero early recruiting meaning. Wait till these kids start going to individual showcases and camps. The college coaches could care less what club team you're on. Some will continue to standout, and others will be exposed. Those once overlooked will shine very brightly. It's the way it works. Look at all the current 2014 commits, while Express and to a lesser degree 91 have their fair share, there are many, many others not involved with these clubs.
These kids have been competing against each other for years and the coaches all know who is who. Its the reason 200 kids show up (from 5 states) to the 91 tryouts Simple... make extreme or orange and you get a good look for stuff like this. Why all the shock?
No shock. Just give everyone a fair look. Believe it or not , their are very good players who have never even tried out for 91. Orange is a good team but not good enough for kids to get automatically pushed through. Same with fl$. They are decent team but 10 is big number.
Fair point. It is why I didn't even bother to bring my son. You would have to really stand out and unfortunately it is tough with the ability level on the field. It is why those going to Catholic HS play Express. Think about it...If you have two middies that look the same (both very good) you'll take the one you know. Not endorsing the process - just looking at it realistically.
As stated before, easily could have gotten evaluators form local colleges not affiliated with any club. Would have at least made it a bit more even handed. Here's a little tid bit though. This event has zero early recruiting meaning. Wait till these kids start going to individual showcases and camps. The college coaches could care less what club team you're on. Some will continue to standout, and others will be exposed. Those once overlooked will shine very brightly. It's the way it works. Look at all the current 2014 commits, while Express and to a lesser degree 91 have their fair share, there are many, many others not involved with these clubs.
yup! and wait until some some of these 5'4" kids stay at 5'4" and the 5' kids are 6'plus by the time they are seniors.
These kids have been competing against each other for years and the coaches all know who is who. Its the reason 200 kids show up (from 5 states) to the 91 tryouts Simple... make extreme or orange and you get a good look for stuff like this. Why all the shock?
No shock. Just give everyone a fair look. Believe it or not , their are very good players who have never even tried out for 91. Orange is a good team but not good enough for kids to get automatically pushed through. Same with fl$. They are decent team but 10 is big number.
Fair point. It is why I didn't even bother to bring my son. You would have to really stand out and unfortunately it is tough with the ability level on the field. It is why those going to Catholic HS play Express. Think about it...If you have two middies that look the same (both very good) you'll take the one you know. Not endorsing the process - just looking at it realistically.
As stated before, easily could have gotten evaluators form local colleges not affiliated with any club. Would have at least made it a bit more even handed. Here's a little tid bit though. This event has zero early recruiting meaning. Wait till these kids start going to individual showcases and camps. The college coaches could care less what club team you're on. Some will continue to standout, and others will be exposed. Those once overlooked will shine very brightly. It's the way it works. Look at all the current 2014 commits, while Express and to a lesser degree 91 have their fair share, there are many, many others not involved with these clubs.
Keep hating. There will be many who do not play club who will not as you put it "shine". These are 12 and 13 year old boys, a lot will change in the years to come so stop rooting against other children. If you and your son do not want to play for a club team then don't. Stop being a hater, focus on your own kid and stop wishing for others to fail.
BY the way, go check the 2017 and 2016 commits, check to see how many play for a club team.
These kids have been competing against each other for years and the coaches all know who is who. Its the reason 200 kids show up (from 5 states) to the 91 tryouts Simple... make extreme or orange and you get a good look for stuff like this. Why all the shock?
No shock. Just give everyone a fair look. Believe it or not , their are very good players who have never even tried out for 91. Orange is a good team but not good enough for kids to get automatically pushed through. Same with fl$. They are decent team but 10 is big number.
Fair point. It is why I didn't even bother to bring my son. You would have to really stand out and unfortunately it is tough with the ability level on the field. It is why those going to Catholic HS play Express. Think about it...If you have two middies that look the same (both very good) you'll take the one you know. Not endorsing the process - just looking at it realistically.
As stated before, easily could have gotten evaluators form local colleges not affiliated with any club. Would have at least made it a bit more even handed. Here's a little tid bit though. This event has zero early recruiting meaning. Wait till these kids start going to individual showcases and camps. The college coaches could care less what club team you're on. Some will continue to standout, and others will be exposed. Those once overlooked will shine very brightly. It's the way it works. Look at all the current 2014 commits, while Express and to a lesser degree 91 have their fair share, there are many, many others not involved with these clubs.
Keep hating. There will be many who do not play club who will not as you put it "shine". These are 12 and 13 year old boys, a lot will change in the years to come so stop rooting against other children. If you and your son do not want to play for a club team then don't. Stop being a hater, focus on your own kid and stop wishing for others to fail.
BY the way, go check the 2017 and 2016 commits, check to see how many play for a club team.
Jackwagon.... Not hating on clubs. Son plays for a club. However, if you weren't on 91 past or present, Express or fl$ you basically weren't even looked at. Clearly, that was the only way you could make this team. That's just the reality. When it comes time for the showcases, no team affiliation or coach you know will make any difference. There were many other talented kids there, and had it been done in an impartial fashion the results would be a bit different. In the end, I nor my son really care. He knows how he played and against whom. None of the evaluators wrote anything down ever, even when the kids and spectators made ooh's and aah's. They stood there with their hands in their pockets and clip boards on the floor for entire sessions. It's ok, we'll have plenty of lax this summer. Good luck. Enjoy the team.
25 - Team 91
20 - LI Express
10 - fl$
5 - Team Long Island
of the 6 without club affiliate 1 played on extreme last year and chose not to tryout this year and another made terps 2 years ago and also chose not to play. In addition I did not see an Express, fl$ or TLI evaluator yet they managed to get 35 spots.
I think that playing on a club team does not make you a top player as much as a majority of the top players play club. How the final teams are picked is obviously yet to be seen but I find it hard to believe that a top 25 player did not make the top 75 call back so after all is said and done it looks like hey got it right
It all depends on the selection process for the "Pride Showcase". If it is 91 biased and we have the same evaluators, It will be an uphill battle to make the team. let's say the 25 break down to 6 attack, 10 middies with one fogo, 7 poles with one LSM, and 2 Goalies.
5 attack out of 19 are from xtreme that leaves 15 kids going for 1 spot
6 poles out of 25 are from xtreme. that leaves 19 kids going for 1spot
6 middies out of 25 are from xtreme. that leaves 19 kids going for 4 spots.
1extreme goalie leaves 1 spot open for 5 kids.
This is not counting the numerous other 91 tryouts and team affiliated kids.
These extreme kids are great lacrosse players and will get the nod over someone of equal talent or even over someone marginally better. some I suspect will even get the nod over a much better player.
with SL, TR, and RC pulling the strings, know what you are getting into before you send in the $150.
That would be unfortunate, but I guess there is always politics. Xtreme is obviously a very good team , but there is no way that their whole team is better than all the other kids that tried out? I actually think they may be the most top heavy team out there! No question their Top 2 middies, Top defender and goalie are the cream of the crop. After that the rest of the team is in the mix with the many talented kids on the other teams. How does 91 get 25 kids, express get 20 and TLI only get 5? fl$ has more? Did the TLI kids not try out?
I believe one of those Middies tried out for Attack yet he is listed as a middie.
3D Lacrosse does and will continue to dominate the club lacrosse arena in the years to come...period.
3D Lacrosse does and will continue to dominate the club lacrosse arena in the years to come...period.
If I may.............3D Lacrosse does and will continue to dominate the club lacrosse arena in the few areas that it runs programs, and those areas that are completely undeserved by other organizations and that is why they will continue to dominate in those areas in the years to come!!! exclamation point! I will be impressed when they come into an established, traditional and mature lacrosse market and dominate.
3D Lacrosse does and will continue to dominate the club lacrosse arena in the years to come...period.
If I may.............3D Lacrosse does and will continue to dominate the club lacrosse arena in the few areas that it runs programs, and those areas that are completely undeserved by other organizations and that is why they will continue to dominate in those areas in the years to come!!! exclamation point! I will be impressed when they come into an established, traditional and mature lacrosse market and dominate.
With appropriate age based teams, not reclassified hold backs.
Times have changed and are continuing to change sonny. My guess is you were a HS standout back in the early 80s. In such a short time, 3D has been the poster child of youth/club lacrosse and where it is headed. Look at the way they run their business model, its a corporation. Look how they branded the name and franchised it to other areas, look at the way they teach their players the combination of box and field hybrid training...their kids, while smaller in numbers today but growing, are much more skilled as a group compared to LI players. In fact, so much that 91 and fl$, even TLI (who cares about Express) are trying to copy their training methodologies by incorporating more box...this is the honest truth...it's copy cat business, but one that 3d is at the forefront of. Look at the number of box leagues, clinics, etc. that are popping up all over LI. As for the achievements, well you can't disguise the truth and facts...again, in such a short time....U15 Lax National Champs, Blue Chip/3D, 8 of their class of 16 were selected to the top 25 HS sophomores....8!....if 3D ever opens up a LI chapter I feel sorry for all the LI club teams...Period.
if my memory serves correct, did fl$ not have 2 of the 4 2018 kids go last year?
I think people are forgetting that it was more or less the same evaluators last year, substitute JM from 91 for SL, and the majority of the kids on the LI North team were from the Express. It was something like 15 out of the 25 kids were Express kids. That team played awesome in the tournament and won the Championship going away. So they weren't biased and I guess they evaluated ok.
BTW, there was an fl$ coach there evaluating.
Imagine that??
Funny, fl$ got 10 kids in and one of their coaches was an evaluator, what are the chances?
Xtreme played 3D New England a few weeks ago up in Boston. Nice team, older kids, same result..
if my memory serves correct, did fl$ not have 2 of the 4 2018 kids go last year?
I think people are forgetting that it was more or less the same evaluators last year, substitute JM from 91 for SL, and the majority of the kids on the LI North team were from the Express. It was something like 15 out of the 25 kids were Express kids. That team played awesome in the tournament and won the Championship going away. So they weren't biased and I guess they evaluated ok.
BTW, there was an fl$ coach there evaluating.
Imagine that??
Funny, fl$ got 10 kids in and one of their coaches was an evaluator, what are the chances?
Yes you are correct and one of the 2 didnt deserve to be there. There are and were many better goalies in 2017 age group that should have been selected last year. Another perfect example of who you know.
if my memory serves correct, did fl$ not have 2 of the 4 2018 kids go last year?
I think people are forgetting that it was more or less the same evaluators last year, substitute JM from 91 for SL, and the majority of the kids on the LI North team were from the Express. It was something like 15 out of the 25 kids were Express kids. That team played awesome in the tournament and won the Championship going away. So they weren't biased and I guess they evaluated ok.
BTW, there was an fl$ coach there evaluating.
Imagine that??
Funny, fl$ got 10 kids in and one of their coaches was an evaluator, what are the chances?
Yes you are correct and one of the 2 didnt deserve to be there. There are and were many better goalies in 2017 age group that should have been selected last year. Another perfect example of who you know.
A little confused...are you talking 2017 or 2018? fl$ or Brine goalies? Did your son make it this year?
if my memory serves correct, did fl$ not have 2 of the 4 2018 kids go last year?
I think people are forgetting that it was more or less the same evaluators last year, substitute JM from 91 for SL, and the majority of the kids on the LI North team were from the Express. It was something like 15 out of the 25 kids were Express kids. That team played awesome in the tournament and won the Championship going away. So they weren't biased and I guess they evaluated ok.
BTW, there was an fl$ coach there evaluating.
Imagine that??
Funny, fl$ got 10 kids in and one of their coaches was an evaluator, what are the chances?
Yes you are correct and one of the 2 didnt deserve to be there. There are and were many better goalies in 2017 age group that should have been selected last year. Another perfect example of who you know.
A little confused...are you talking 2017 or 2018? fl$ or Brine goalies? Did your son make it this year?
Refering to the quote at top in box. fl$ had 2 2018 players that were selected to play on last years Brine team. Saying that there were some very good 2017 goalies at tryout but a 2018 was chosen.
Yes you are correct and one of the 2 didnt deserve to be there. There are and were many better goalies in 2017 age group that should have been selected last year. Another perfect example of who you know.
Once again an adult passing judgement on a 12 (now 13) year old - you are one tough anonymous dude......loser
This site is completely biased to those that spend their advertising dollars. Larry Miller or whoever else moderates this site has had no experience with the brine tryouts or national games and does not have first hand experience to publically cast judgement.
This site is completely biased to those that spend their advertising dollars. Larry Miller or whoever else moderates this site has had no experience with the brine tryouts or national games and does not have first hand experience to publically cast judgement.
This would be incorrect. Very incorrect. BOTC has inside experience with the Brine event which is why we know about the "coaching selection" process that was taking place.
As you can read, many of the parents felt bilked on both the 2017 and 2018 threads; you are in the minority. BOTC will pass judgement publicly on any situation with which we have first hand experience including this one.
Do you have any idea how many parents have written to us asking that BOTC intervene on their behalf to secure refunds for their Brine tryout fees? The fact is that this was NOT a BOTC event and as a result, we are not able to take up this chase on their behalf.
Yes you are correct and one of the 2 didnt deserve to be there. There are and were many better goalies in 2017 age group that should have been selected last year. Another perfect example of who you know.
Once again an adult passing judgement on a 12 (now 13) year old - you are one tough anonymous dude......loser
No, this is about selections to Brine being made just because of team affiliation or last name or whatever reason other than talent.
This site is completely biased to those that spend their advertising dollars. Larry Miller or whoever else moderates this site has had no experience with the brine tryouts or national games and does not have first hand experience to publically cast judgement.
Your joking right. This event is so predetermined and nothing is based on the tryout. Why should the have a tryout when most selections aren't even made off of it. Been around this event enough to see if your teams coach is one of the main evaluators there is a pretty good chance your getting selected regardless of how you did at tryouts. Money grab. If I were Brine lacrosse I would reevaluate who I had running this event because my name is getting tarnished.
Yes you are correct and one of the 2 didnt deserve to be there. There are and were many better goalies in 2017 age group that should have been selected last year. Another perfect example of who you know.
Once again an adult passing judgement on a 12 (now 13) year old - you are one tough anonymous dude......loser
No, this is about selections to Brine being made just because of team affiliation or last name or whatever reason other than talent.
you can criticize the selection process without calling out an individual 13 year old boy Mr Anonymous ChickenS&%t
Yes you are correct and one of the 2 didnt deserve to be there. There are and were many better goalies in 2017 age group that should have been selected last year. Another perfect example of who you know.
Once again an adult passing judgement on a 12 (now 13) year old - you are one tough anonymous dude......loser
No, this is about selections to Brine being made just because of team affiliation or last name or whatever reason other than talent.
you can criticize the selection process without calling out an individual 13 year old boy Mr Anonymous ChickenS&%t
Actually I am 14 and tired of others getting free pass. This was the perfect example of the selection process. Only 3 goalies in last years 2017 pool were good. Please give me the response. There were plenty of goalies at last years tryout. It just shows the biased selection process. Facts and examples.
Changing topic. How are the A teams outside the elites? These elite teams seem crowded. I would prefer my son playing on a team that was just very good. Teams like the Outlaws, Jesters, fl$, etc. What's better 20+ minutes playing with kids that are very good and jare cosched well. Or playing very limited and be on an elite?
Changing topic. How are the A teams outside the elites? These elite teams seem crowded. I would prefer my son playing on a team that was just very good. Teams like the Outlaws, Jesters, fl$, etc. What's better 20+ minutes playing with kids that are very good and jare cosched well. Or playing very limited and be on an elite?
IMHO - I would rather have my son on the best team possible with the best coaches possible, the summer is all about getting better, and you get better in practice and practicing against better players not in games. Having said that, after Xtreme, TLI and Terps I think that the next best teams are 91 white, outlaws and fl$, so many new teams are popping up that until you get into the summer you don't know who is going to be competitive, always pick coaches not organizations
Changing topic. How are the A teams outside the elites? These elite teams seem crowded. I would prefer my son playing on a team that was just very good. Teams like the Outlaws, Jesters, fl$, etc. What's better 20+ minutes playing with kids that are very good and jare cosched well. Or playing very limited and be on an elite?
IMHO - I would rather have my son on the best team possible with the best coaches possible, the summer is all about getting better, and you get better in practice and practicing against better players not in games. Having said that, after Xtreme, TLI and Terps I think that the next best teams are 91 white, outlaws and fl$, so many new teams are popping up that until you get into the summer you don't know who is going to be competitive, always pick coaches not organizations
I can agree and disagree, but that's why it is an interesting debate. However, what if you're son is unhappy because he isn't seeing the field. It is sort of like HS already, but here you can change teams...
Changing topic. How are the A teams outside the elites? These elite teams seem crowded. I would prefer my son playing on a team that was just very good. Teams like the Outlaws, Jesters, fl$, etc. What's better 20+ minutes playing with kids that are very good and jare cosched well. Or playing very limited and be on an elite?
IMHO - I would rather have my son on the best team possible with the best coaches possible, the summer is all about getting better, and you get better in practice and practicing against better players not in games. Having said that, after Xtreme, TLI and Terps I think that the next best teams are 91 white, outlaws and fl$, so many new teams are popping up that until you get into the summer you don't know who is going to be competitive, always pick coaches not organizations
I agree with this, it is better to get the best training, more play time or equal play time is worthless if the player is not taught how to position and proper skills.
It depends on the particular summer - the 2018s are now considered rising freshmen. The goal of this particular summer is to begin to get exposure and prepare him to play on the big stage
Brine, Jake Reed etc.. are good because they are not real recruiting events this year, but as individual showcases simulate the big stage at events for individuals. This gives your son has a leg up in what to expect in the fall of 9th grade and the following summer.
There will be coaches on some sidelines this summer. If your boy is on the bench, he is not getting looked at. If your boy's team is at the wrong tournaments he is not getting looked at regardless of how much he plays. Both club affiliation AND playing time are therefore important
These are still boys and not men, it is too early to have these concerns, but it is reality if your boy aspires to play high level D1 5 years from now
IMHO - I would rather have my son on the best team possible with the best coaches possible, the summer is all about getting better, and you get better in practice and practicing against better players not in games. Having said that, after Xtreme, TLI and Terps I think that the next best teams are 91 white, outlaws and fl$, so many new teams are popping up that until you get into the summer you don't know who is going to be competitive, always pick coaches not organizations
Changing topic. How are the A teams outside the elites? These elite teams seem crowded. I would prefer my son playing on a team that was just very good. Teams like the Outlaws, Jesters, fl$, etc. What's better 20+ minutes playing with kids that are very good and jare cosched well. Or playing very limited and be on an elite?
IMHO - I would rather have my son on the best team possible with the best coaches possible, the summer is all about getting better, and you get better in practice and practicing against better players not in games. Having said that, after Xtreme, TLI and Terps I think that the next best teams are 91 white, outlaws and fl$, so many new teams are popping up that until you get into the summer you don't know who is going to be competitive, always pick coaches not organizations
Totally 100% disagree. My son has played on one of the Elite teams in the past. Was a second line player, he wanted to leave after one season. Hated the constant pressure to be perfect all the time at 12 yo. In his words "why is every game like the NCAA finals"? He is now on a very competitive A team and plays more than enough. To correct the poster above, you do not get better just practicing. You need to actually play in games against the best competition. His team won't beat the top two teams, but he get's to play against that competition all the time. As a result, he is playing confident, and playing the best lacrosse he has ever played. This is what will help him compete in the showcases next year. Remember, the starting 10 on the top two LI teams play the majority of every tough game. That's 20 kids in 2018. Trust me when I say, there will be way more 2018 kids that get recruited in the years to come.
Changing topic. How are the A teams outside the elites? These elite teams seem crowded. I would prefer my son playing on a team that was just very good. Teams like the Outlaws, Jesters, fl$, etc. What's better 20+ minutes playing with kids that are very good and jare cosched well. Or playing very limited and be on an elite?
IMHO - I would rather have my son on the best team possible with the best coaches possible, the summer is all about getting better, and you get better in practice and practicing against better players not in games. Having said that, after Xtreme, TLI and Terps I think that the next best teams are 91 white, outlaws and fl$, so many new teams are popping up that until you get into the summer you don't know who is going to be competitive, always pick coaches not organizations
I can agree and disagree, but that's why it is an interesting debate. However, what if you're son is unhappy because he isn't seeing the field. It is sort of like HS already, but here you can change teams...
The child being happy is the most important part of the equation - happy and enjoying playing lacrosse trumps all
Dec14th was the date to secure your spot on the showcase teams for Brine by paying $150.00. do you think they will have players drop out? If so will they be replaced from the players cut?
Changing topic. How are the A teams outside the elites? These elite teams seem crowded. I would prefer my son playing on a team that was just very good. Teams like the Outlaws, Jesters, fl$, etc. What's better 20+ minutes playing with kids that are very good and jare cosched well. Or playing very limited and be on an elite?
IMHO - I would rather have my son on the best team possible with the best coaches possible, the summer is all about getting better, and you get better in practice and practicing against better players not in games. Having said that, after Xtreme, TLI and Terps I think that the next best teams are 91 white, outlaws and fl$, so many new teams are popping up that until you get into the summer you don't know who is going to be competitive, always pick coaches not organizations
I can agree and disagree, but that's why it is an interesting debate. However, what if you're son is unhappy because he isn't seeing the field. It is sort of like HS already, but here you can change teams...
The child being happy is the most important part of the equation - happy and enjoying playing lacrosse trumps all
I think so. And I'll preface this with... no I don't think any of the next level of teams can compete with the elites (TLI white, Extreme & Terps), but it is still good quality lax and quality coaching on the following teams. (Outlaws Black, Express Wolverines, Jesters Black, 91 Orange, fl$, TLI Red) Those 6 teams would have a great time playing each other.
3d sent an e-mail to individuals attending the 3d bluechip camp
Included is a section with recruiting advice. This particular bullet from the recruiting timeline stood out for me:
PG year? Repeat junior year? Repeating the sophomore/freshmen/8th year is the smarter way to go as repeating sophomore or junior year is sometimes late for the class behind you.
This is the actual advice being provided by 3d to players
3d sent an e-mail to individuals attending the 3d bluechip camp
Included is a section with recruiting advice. This particular bullet from the recruiting timeline stood out for me:
PG year? Repeat junior year? Repeating the sophomore/freshmen/8th year is the smarter way to go as repeating sophomore or junior year is sometimes late for the class behind you.
This is the actual advice being provided by 3d to players
Any organization which has gone on record to repeat a year of scholastic (High School) work in order to take another shot at a lacrosse scholarship should be run out of town. This is an embarrassment to the sport not to mention the impact on the individual student.
As we have written earlier on the board, the stigma for a student being held back can bring about socialization issues in addition to boredom of repeating classes and missing the opportunity to graduate with your core friends (who will move on without the star lacrosse stud).
Remember that some states like California have already enacted legislation regarding the number of years of High School sports eligibility. This occurs in football more often (the public to private back to public shuffle) where four years of eligibility are used at the varsity level before senior year of High School. In such situations, many players cannot participate in their senior seasons. Expect that NYSPHSAA will be looking at the issue regarding the number of years of athletic participation versus the academic progress rate.
Post Graduate. In other words, a "thirteenth grade" or preparatory year before entering college.
3d sent an e-mail to individuals attending the 3d bluechip camp
Included is a section with recruiting advice. This particular bullet from the recruiting timeline stood out for me:
PG year? Repeat junior year? Repeating the sophomore/freshmen/8th year is the smarter way to go as repeating sophomore or junior year is sometimes late for the class behind you.
This is the actual advice being provided by 3d to players
Any organization which has gone on record to repeat a year of scholastic (High School) work in order to take another shot at a lacrosse scholarship should be run out of town. This is an embarrassment to the sport not to mention the impact on the individual student.
As we have written earlier on the board, the stigma for a student being held back can bring about socialization issues in addition to boredom of repeating classes and missing the opportunity to graduate with your core friends (who will move on without the star lacrosse stud).
Remember that some states like California have already enacted legislation regarding the number of years of High School sports eligibility. This occurs in football more often (the public to private back to public shuffle) where four years of eligibility are used at the varsity level before senior year of High School. In such situations, many players cannot participate in their senior seasons. Expect that NYSPHSAA will be looking at the issue regarding the number of years of athletic participation versus the academic progress rate.
There is a legitimate place for this, and in some fairness to 3D, the kids social well being is not their responsibility it is the parents. 3D is advising kids and parents on how to get recruited. You are not going to get ROI of an extra year of private school vs. extra scholarship money but it may help you get into a top academic school that if you stayed in your regular grade you may not have, it is a huge advantage in grades and on the field. Parents and players should use whatever they can to get into the best school possible and repeating 8th grade is an option just like private lessons and SAT tutors. Like it or not it is working for a lot of kids
3d sent an e-mail to individuals attending the 3d bluechip camp
Included is a section with recruiting advice. This particular bullet from the recruiting timeline stood out for me:
PG year? Repeat junior year? Repeating the sophomore/freshmen/8th year is the smarter way to go as repeating sophomore or junior year is sometimes late for the class behind you.
This is the actual advice being provided by 3d to players
Any organization which has gone on record to repeat a year of scholastic (High School) work in order to take another shot at a lacrosse scholarship should be run out of town. This is an embarrassment to the sport not to mention the impact on the individual student.
As we have written earlier on the board, the stigma for a student being held back can bring about socialization issues in addition to boredom of repeating classes and missing the opportunity to graduate with your core friends (who will move on without the star lacrosse stud).
Remember that some states like California have already enacted legislation regarding the number of years of High School sports eligibility. This occurs in football more often (the public to private back to public shuffle) where four years of eligibility are used at the varsity level before senior year of High School. In such situations, many players cannot participate in their senior seasons. Expect that NYSPHSAA will be looking at the issue regarding the number of years of athletic participation versus the academic progress rate.
There is a legitimate place for this, and in some fairness to 3D, the kids social well being is not their responsibility it is the parents. 3D is advising kids and parents on how to get recruited. You are not going to get ROI of an extra year of private school vs. extra scholarship money but it may help you get into a top academic school that if you stayed in your regular grade you may not have, it is a huge advantage in grades and on the field. Parents and players should use whatever they can to get into the best school possible and repeating 8th grade is an option just like private lessons and SAT tutors. Like it or not it is working for a lot of kids
There is a legitimate place for this, and in some fairness to 3D, the kids social well being is not their responsibility it is the parents.
Does anyone else see an issue with this or is it just me.
3d sent an e-mail to individuals attending the 3d bluechip camp
Included is a section with recruiting advice. This particular bullet from the recruiting timeline stood out for me:
PG year? Repeat junior year? Repeating the sophomore/freshmen/8th year is the smarter way to go as repeating sophomore or junior year is sometimes late for the class behind you.
This is the actual advice being provided by 3d to players
Any organization which has gone on record to repeat a year of scholastic (High School) work in order to take another shot at a lacrosse scholarship should be run out of town. This is an embarrassment to the sport not to mention the impact on the individual student.
As we have written earlier on the board, the stigma for a student being held back can bring about socialization issues in addition to boredom of repeating classes and missing the opportunity to graduate with your core friends (who will move on without the star lacrosse stud).
Remember that some states like California have already enacted legislation regarding the number of years of High School sports eligibility. This occurs in football more often (the public to private back to public shuffle) where four years of eligibility are used at the varsity level before senior year of High School. In such situations, many players cannot participate in their senior seasons. Expect that NYSPHSAA will be looking at the issue regarding the number of years of athletic participation versus the academic progress rate.
There is a legitimate place for this, and in some fairness to 3D, the kids social well being is not their responsibility it is the parents. 3D is advising kids and parents on how to get recruited. You are not going to get ROI of an extra year of private school vs. extra scholarship money but it may help you get into a top academic school that if you stayed in your regular grade you may not have, it is a huge advantage in grades and on the field. Parents and players should use whatever they can to get into the best school possible and repeating 8th grade is an option just like private lessons and SAT tutors. Like it or not it is working for a lot of kids
If at first you can't succeed, at your own age, CHEAT and play against the little kids... Ahhh the life lessons some parents teach. Is there no end to depths folks will sink? What's next? Lying about your race? I guess that's ok too. I get it, you can call it race reclassification. That might be another way of stealing a spot at the school you want him to get into. See a trend here? Lying, Cheating, Stealing.... These lessons your teaching won't manifest themselves in other ways when he gets older, don't worry.
If at first you can't succeed, at your own age, CHEAT and play against the little kids... Ahhh the life lessons some parents teach. Is there no end to depths folks will sink? What's next? Lying about your race? I guess that's ok too. I get it, you can call it race reclassification. That might be another way of stealing a spot at the school you want him to get into. See a trend here? Lying, Cheating, Stealing.... These lessons your teaching won't manifest themselves in other ways when he gets older, don't worry.
First, the idea of replaying a grade is NOT cheating. You might not like it and BOTC might not like it, but it is not cheating. Now, the NYSPHSAA might clamp down on this process in the coming months, however until such time, there is nothing illegal about the move.
Again, the issues surrounding the social stigma of being "left back", leaving your on-age friends, and not graduating "on time" just to pursue lacrosse seem like an absolutely misplaced sense of priorities to us. Misplaced, but not cheating.
There is a legitimate place for this, and in some fairness to 3D, the kids social well being is not their responsibility it is the parents.
Does anyone else see an issue with this or is it just me.
To be honest, BOTC thought the expressed opinion was so outlandish that we had not bothered to reply.
Our message board provides an equal opportunity for everyone to prove their foolishness. The poster who does not believe that the club has a role in social development is just taking advantage of the opportunity.
3d sent an e-mail to individuals attending the 3d bluechip camp
Included is a section with recruiting advice. This particular bullet from the recruiting timeline stood out for me:
PG year? Repeat junior year? Repeating the sophomore/freshmen/8th year is the smarter way to go as repeating sophomore or junior year is sometimes late for the class behind you.
This is the actual advice being provided by 3d to players
Any organization which has gone on record to repeat a year of scholastic (High School) work in order to take another shot at a lacrosse scholarship should be run out of town. This is an embarrassment to the sport not to mention the impact on the individual student.
As we have written earlier on the board, the stigma for a student being held back can bring about socialization issues in addition to boredom of repeating classes and missing the opportunity to graduate with your core friends (who will move on without the star lacrosse stud).
Remember that some states like California have already enacted legislation regarding the number of years of High School sports eligibility. This occurs in football more often (the public to private back to public shuffle) where four years of eligibility are used at the varsity level before senior year of High School. In such situations, many players cannot participate in their senior seasons. Expect that NYSPHSAA will be looking at the issue regarding the number of years of athletic participation versus the academic progress rate.
There is a legitimate place for this, and in some fairness to 3D, the kids social well being is not their responsibility it is the parents. 3D is advising kids and parents on how to get recruited. You are not going to get ROI of an extra year of private school vs. extra scholarship money but it may help you get into a top academic school that if you stayed in your regular grade you may not have, it is a huge advantage in grades and on the field. Parents and players should use whatever they can to get into the best school possible and repeating 8th grade is an option just like private lessons and SAT tutors. Like it or not it is working for a lot of kids
If at first you can't succeed, at your own age, CHEAT and play against the little kids... Ahhh the life lessons some parents teach. Is there no end to depths folks will sink? What's next? Lying about your race? I guess that's ok too. I get it, you can call it race reclassification. That might be another way of stealing a spot at the school you want him to get into. See a trend here? Lying, Cheating, Stealing.... These lessons your teaching won't manifest themselves in other ways when he gets older, don't worry.
From the 2017 board:
There are kids on "Every Team" that are older than the norm.
PAL / Town Teams at the youth level.
Club Teams at the youth level.
Middle School / JHS Teams.
Club Teams in the 7th and 8th grade.
JV and Varsity High School Teams.
HS Club Teams.
College Teams.
Are they all 'Cheaters" ? Are the parents who hold the child back from starting Kindergarden any different than the parents who hold the child back in the 9th grade? Are they Different than the parents who have their child do a Post Graduate Year at a Prep School? Are they different from the Parents who agree to have their child Redshirt in College?
Did Garden City have any holdbacks last Year? How about Ward Melville? I would bet that there are some boys at WM and GC who are holdbacks. What about Duke? Is Rob Pannell a cheater? Pannell did a PG year after HS and Redshirted at Cornell, Did Cornell Cheat? Is Pannell a Cheater? Did he take the spot of another kid?
This has been going on for a very long time. Starting school late, switching from public to private after 9th grade, PGing and redshirting have all been going on for as long as I can remember.
My kids are in the grade that the School District says they should be in but when the time comes maybe I will consider one of the options available.
There was a time when PGs were used to allow an athlete to improve his academic resume and spend an extra year preparing for the academic rigors of a top academic university (Ivy, Service Academy, etc...) I am okay with this. In this case, the agreement to PG occurs in Senior year.
HS Sophs agreeing to do PG years in order to attend UVA and PSU (after only Freshman grades are in) just doesn't make sense. The University admission departments should shut this down at it is a smear on the reputation of the university. Adults are not acting in the best interest of children.
Does Penn State admissions really believe that a current HS sophmore is unfit for admission in Fall 2016 but with one year of PG will be fit for admission in Fall 2017? Same for UVA? When does the applicant actually apply to the university?
There was a time when PGs were used to allow an athlete to improve his academic resume and spend an extra year preparing for the academic rigors of a top academic university (Ivy, Service Academy, etc...) I am okay with this. In this case, the agreement to PG occurs in Senior year.
HS Sophs agreeing to do PG years in order to attend UVA and PSU (after only Freshman grades are in) just doesn't make sense. The University admission departments should shut this down at it is a smear on the reputation of the university. Adults are not acting in the best interest of children.
Does Penn State admissions really believe that a current HS sophmore is unfit for admission in Fall 2016 but with one year of PG will be fit for admission in Fall 2017? Same for UVA? When does the applicant actually apply to the university?
So, when the kid "Athlete" did not have the grades to be accepted to an IVY League University after 3.5 years of HS he was able to go to a Prep School in order to get his grades up? Athletics were an after thought? In the old days, were any of the kids who needed a PG year also start kindergarden late?
Our message board provides an equal opportunity for everyone to prove their foolishness. The poster who does not believe that the club has a role in social development is just taking advantage of the opportunity.
foolishness? these hold backs are committing to the top academic and top lacrosse schools in the country. Our kids are crying that it is not fair.
Is it cheating when a kid gets private lessons from Rob Parnell because his parents can afford it while a "better" player can only practice against the wall because that's all his folks can afford or is it fair that a really good player may never become a great player because he can not afford travel lacrosse? If you have the means and opportunity to advance your kid you do it.
For 3D to explain to their clients that repeating a grade is an option to help them get an advantage is not outrageous at all, in fact any organization that did not at least explain that as an option is not doing their job.
3d sent an e-mail to individuals attending the 3d bluechip camp
Included is a section with recruiting advice. This particular bullet from the recruiting timeline stood out for me:
PG year? Repeat junior year? Repeating the sophomore/freshmen/8th year is the smarter way to go as repeating sophomore or junior year is sometimes late for the class behind you.
This is the actual advice being provided by 3d to players
This IS good recruiting advice. - I know first hand of a kid who went to 3D as a 2016 and did not receive an invite to Jake Reed, he repeated 8th grade a re-classified as a 2017 and has now verbally committed to a top team and top school. How can anybody question their decision or question repeating 8th grade as a viable strategy?
In the ultimate holding back - Casey Carroll will play his final season at Duke this year, Casey graduated Duke in '07 with one year of eligibility left but decided to do 5 years PG in Afghanistan, came back last year but hurt his leg so he red shirted and now, at age 29 will play his final year.
Or as most LI lax parents would say.....cheater
In the ultimate holding back - Casey Carroll will play his final season at Duke this year, Casey graduated Duke in '07 with one year of eligibility left but decided to do 5 years PG in Afghanistan, came back last year but hurt his leg so he red shirted and now, at age 29 will play his final year.
Or as most LI lax parents would say.....cheater
No that would be an adult playing other adults. Your 16 yo playing against 14yo kids because he can't compete at his own age is CHEATING. Hope that clears it up for you... Nighty night.
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Did Garden City have any holdbacks last Year? How about Ward Melville? I would bet that there are some boys at WM and GC who are holdbacks. ...
Only a fool would bet against you on that point.
Hold-backs in every grade, in almost every sport, here in the garden. There are always going to be kids who start late or are held back for developmental issues or concerns, in every school district. But then there are plenty of "gamers" who were held back (admittedly by their parents) to give them an advantage athletically and even academically. It's all a matter of degree. A kid born in mid-November ... not unreasonable to start school one grade back. But how about a kid with an August birthday? Less reasonable. It definitely happens all the time.
Doesn't mean these kids are dominant on the field or in the classroom, but at least some of them are. Also, it is undeniable that all of the hold-backs are performing better relative to the "grade" they are in than their age-based peers. Which is why the parents did what they did.
Not unlawful, but clearly the rest of our children are disadvantaged by this.
And there is certainly a stigma for some of the hold-backs, where it is known they are much older than the other kids in the grade. Every goal, every hit, every jump shot ... people say "he's good, but you know, he is a year older than everyone else out there". I have heard that at least 500 times over the years, and admittedly, have also said it myself.
This is the system. For now at least.
In the ultimate holding back - Casey Carroll will play his final season at Duke this year, Casey graduated Duke in '07 with one year of eligibility left but decided to do 5 years PG in Afghanistan, came back last year but hurt his leg so he red shirted and now, at age 29 will play his final year.
Or as most LI lax parents would say.....cheater
This comment is disgraceful! That fact that you would even mention his name and what he did for this country in this thread is unbelievable. He served his country and fought for your freedoms. The NCAA did the right and proper thing by waving the 5 in 4 rule for last year's season and after his injury before the season started last year by giving him his medical red-shirt to play this year. He is getting his well deserved chance to finish his dream of dodging an opponent on a DI college lacrosse field, instead of dodging a bullet in Afghanistan.
Last night, I sat my 8 yr old son and my 12 yr old nephew down and had them read about Casey Carroll and his sacrifices he made and his perseverance. This is what a true hero looks like! Show your kid what hard work looks like instead of showing them a shortcut to being one year bigger and stronger than their classmate/teammate!
I am not suggesting it is bad recruiting advice. 3d is doing right by its followers given the current landscape.
I am of the camp that believes that a boy who couldn't earn a roster spot when competing against kids his own age and therefore reclassifies and builds a resume based on playing against younger boys, simply isn't as good as the college coaches may think.
I believe and am rooting hard that the schools who early recruit re-classified players fail and fail miserably. I hope very much that UVA, JHU and UNC (who I see as worst offenders) underperform vs. recruiting class rank as UNC has done for years and UVA/JHU did last year. Specifically I expect these schools to lose top lax school status from 2017 onwards. The 2016 HS class is the class where the the line was really crossed this is why the 2017 season is the tell all season.
This IS good recruiting advice. - I know first hand of a kid who went to 3D as a 2016 and did not receive an invite to Jake Reed, he repeated 8th grade a re-classified as a 2017 and has now verbally committed to a top team and top school. How can anybody question their decision or question repeating 8th grade as a viable strategy?
In the ultimate holding back - Casey Carroll will play his final season at Duke this year, Casey graduated Duke in '07 with one year of eligibility left but decided to do 5 years PG in Afghanistan, came back last year but hurt his leg so he red shirted and now, at age 29 will play his final year.
Or as most LI lax parents would say.....cheater
This comment is disgraceful! That fact that you would even mention his name and what he did for this country in this thread is unbelievable. He served his country and fought for your freedoms. The NCAA did the right and proper thing by waving the 5 in 4 rule for last year's season and after his injury before the season started last year by giving him his medical red-shirt to play this year. He is getting his well deserved chance to finish his dream of dodging an opponent on a DI college lacrosse field, instead of dodging a bullet in Afghanistan.
Last night, I sat my 8 yr old son and my 12 yr old nephew down and had them read about Casey Carroll and his sacrifices he made and his perseverance. This is what a true hero looks like! Show your kid what hard work looks like instead of showing them a shortcut to being one year bigger and stronger than their classmate/teammate!
maniac i believe the poster was being sarcastic
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
IMHO you have 4 groups here
1) 91 Extreme in a class by themselves
2) TLI is an aged based team and not a 2018
3) Terps
4) Everybody else
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
IMHO you have 4 groups here
1) 91 Extreme in a class by themselves
2) TLI is an aged based team and not a 2018
3) Terps
4) Everybody else
Son not on Extreme, TLI or Terps. Fair statement, until proven otherwise. My guess is the Terps will get some tougher than expected games from the everybody else category this summer.
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
IMHO you have 4 groups here
1) 91 Extreme in a class by themselves
2) TLI is an aged based team and not a 2018
3) Terps
4) Everybody else
Son not on Extreme, TLI or Terps. Fair statement, until proven otherwise. My guess is the Terps will get some tougher than expected games from the everybody else category this summer.
Not sure why you isolate the TERPs, I think the "Everybody else" group will provide challenges to any of, what is deemed, the top 3.
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
IMHO you have 4 groups here
1) 91 Extreme in a class by themselves
2) TLI is an aged based team and not a 2018
3) Terps
4) Everybody else
I would rank them the same way, but I wouldn't put 91 in a class by themselves! They are not dominant like the Turtles or what Crush is doing. Terps gave them fits last summer and TLI always gives them fits. That being said they earned the 1 spot, but they can be beat. Being in a class by yourself means that you are head and shoulders better than everyone else. Not the case here!
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
IMHO you have 4 groups here
1) 91 Extreme in a class by themselves
2) TLI is an aged based team and not a 2018
3) Terps
4) Everybody else
Son not on Extreme, TLI or Terps. Fair statement, until proven otherwise. My guess is the Terps will get some tougher than expected games from the everybody else category this summer.
Not sure why you isolate the TERPs, I think the "Everybody else" group will provide challenges to any of, what is deemed, the top 3.
I isolated the Terps because I think they are a lot better then the other teams and the original post was asking opinions and that is what I was trying to give. I agree that some of the other teams can and will play competitive games with the terps but no 2018 team on LI can compete with Extreme, forget about beating them, they can not compete with them.
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
IMHO you have 4 groups here
1) 91 Extreme in a class by themselves
2) TLI is an aged based team and not a 2018
3) Terps
4) Everybody else
Son not on Extreme, TLI or Terps. Fair statement, until proven otherwise. My guess is the Terps will get some tougher than expected games from the everybody else category this summer.
Not sure why you isolate the TERPs, I think the "Everybody else" group will provide challenges to any of, what is deemed, the top 3.
Unless the teams in the "everyone else" category made major improvements they will not challenge the top 3! That being said as they get older the teams get closer and closer!
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI because they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
IMHO you have 4 groups here
1) 91 Extreme in a class by themselves
2) TLI is an aged based team and not a 2018
3) Terps
4) Everybody else
Son not on Extreme, TLI or Terps. Fair statement, until proven otherwise. My guess is the Terps will get some tougher than expected games from the everybody else category this summer.
Not sure why you isolate the TERPs, I think the "Everybody else" group will provide challenges to any of, what is deemed, the top 3.
I isolate TERPS because they are simply not as strong as Extreme or TLI, until proven otherwise. With all due respect to the TERPS, they are a great team and will most likely beat the teams in the all the other category. However, some of these other teams will give them a better run this year. Some of these teams have improved quite a bit! No trash talk here, better competition is better for all the teams.
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI becauseWant us to drive. ? Johnson's waiting in car so we are back out they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
If your going to add town teams in you have to put a bunch of them in before bottom 10!
Smithtown, Garden City, West Islip, Masdapequa etc.....
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI because they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
Wow - I am a 2018 parent and I have never heard of a few
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI because they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
Wow - I am a 2018 parent and I have never heard of a few
I have to say that is pretty good. Sure there can be interchangeable teams between - it is a pretty good ranking. Somebody should talk to TLI and enter a grade based combo team. Not saying they change their U based approached (that is their god given right). Just saying put a combo team in for like 2 or 3 tourneys. They practice together anyway all week at those clinics that Gongas runs.
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI because they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
How does fl$ finish abound Wolverines and Jesters when they beat them several times last year??
funny, terps played extreme in two tournaments last year, shamrock and laxfest. they lost 2 games and won one...won the championship at laxfest.
this year they played one game and terps lost by 3 or 4. that same day terps lost to dukes, team li, and 365. no excuses but even good teams have bad days...not to mention some of the boys were beat up from football.
extreme is a very good team, but they will lose their fair share this year, they are certainly beatable.
let's all wait and see what the summer season brings, lots of good competition.
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI because they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
Wow - I am a 2018 parent and I have never heard of a few
I have to say that is pretty good. Sure there can be interchangeable teams between - it is a pretty good ranking. Somebody should talk to TLI and enter a grade based combo team. Not saying they change their U based approached (that is their god given right). Just saying put a combo team in for like 2 or 3 tourneys. They practice together anyway all week at those clinics that Gongas runs.
I'd have to agree, especially with 3 thru 7. Those teams last summer played each other to 1 goal games either way, I suspect the same this summer, with some of them beginning to challenge the top two. Best to all the boys on all the 2018 teams moving forward. There will be many, many D1,D2 and D3 players from this grade in the years to come. I for one hope we 2018 parents can stay positive. Maybe we can promote healthy competition in this age group to better prepare these young men for whatever their college lacrosse aspirations are. The more they push each other, the better they all will become.
Recon has 2 teams, True Blue has 2, Vipers and HDD had 2 last summer. Don't know what they have this year. LI Thunder, LI Pride and Million Force had teams last year. Wantagh Tribe is good town team that played at B level and won a few tournaments. I don't think they are in top Garden City, Smithtown,3V level though. I don't know about Syosset, W.I., S.W.R., or Massapequa , but I think they do mostly spring tournaments, then kids do summer club.
Is Jester's A the same team that went to [lacrosse]'s? If so, surprised to see such a high ranking. A lot of teams that finished higher than Jesters are not even the best team in their Not Hot Bed areas - if so, this bodes well for the rest of the Country and Canada - other posts on the Dicks thread suggested that they were a B team
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI because they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
Anyone know what happened to 91Raiders, where did those kids go ?
I agree putting wantagh on the list and leaving out smithtown, syosset, three village who will beat wantagh tribe!!!!!
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI because they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
Wow - I am a 2018 parent and I have never heard of a few
I have to say that is pretty good. Sure there can be interchangeable teams between - it is a pretty good ranking. Somebody should talk to TLI and enter a grade based combo team. Not saying they change their U based approached (that is their god given right). Just saying put a combo team in for like 2 or 3 tourneys. They practice together anyway all week at those clinics that Gongas runs.
I'd have to agree, especially with 3 thru 7. Those teams last summer played each other to 1 goal games either way, I suspect the same this summer, with some of them beginning to challenge the top two. Best to all the boys on all the 2018 teams moving forward. There will be many, many D1,D2 and D3 players from this grade in the years to come. I for one hope we 2018 parents can stay positive. Maybe we can promote healthy competition in this age group to better prepare these young men for whatever their college lacrosse aspirations are. The more they push each other, the better they all will become.
I agree. I would like to see those 5 teams playing each other. Parents get your coaches to put them all in the Shamrock. It will be a nice primer for the summer. These teams are filled with really good players and would be fun to watch the best of rest.
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI because they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
How does fl$ finish abound Wolverines and Jesters when they beat them several times last year??
can't go by last year, several of the 3 and below teams had a lot of player changes. i believe fl$ picked up several who are capable of making extreme or terps but would rather get more play time which is what fl$ is all about.
I agree putting wantagh on the list and leaving out smithtown, syosset, three village who will beat wantagh tribe!!!!!
Appologies for adding Wantagh and not the rest of the town teams. I watched the Tribe play last year and this fall in a bunch of Tournaments. I didn't think they had players that played on other travel teams. Also appologies if I left out other Travel Teams. Trying to remember all the LI Teams is tough..
But feel free to add to the list.
Syosset and smithtown are the two
Best town teams on LI at this age hands Down.
Syosset and smithtown are the two
Best town teams on LI at this age hands Down.
i suggest leaving town teams out of this discussion and have them prove who is the best on the field at the various town team tournaments that will be commencing in a few months. on any given day, a top notch travel team will beat the best town team, most towns just don't have the quality in all the positions, strong in some but not all.
Syosset and smithtown are the two
Best town teams on LI at this age hands Down.
Hands down?? Smithtown East or west?? Combined absolutely, but that doesn't count. Three village, GC, Commack Northport and Mt Sinai are just as good.
Is Jester's A the same team that went to [lacrosse]'s? If so, surprised to see such a high ranking. A lot of teams that finished higher than Jesters are not even the best team in their Not Hot Bed areas - if so, this bodes well for the rest of the Country and Canada - other posts on the Dicks thread suggested that they were a B team
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI because they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
If you weren't there you have no idea what your talking about. Teams 2 through 20 were all competitive teams. 20 through 28 not so much. Madlax was a national team and head and shoulders above rest. The amount of OT and one goal games tells the story of similar competition.
What team your kid play for?
Is Jester's A the same team that went to [lacrosse]'s? If so, surprised to see such a high ranking. A lot of teams that finished higher than Jesters are not even the best team in their Not Hot Bed areas - if so, this bodes well for the rest of the Country and Canada - other posts on the Dicks thread suggested that they were a B team
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI because they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
If you weren't there you have no idea what your talking about. Teams 2 through 20 were all competitive teams. 20 through 28 not so much. Madlax was a national team and head and shoulders above rest. The amount of OT and one goal games tells the story of similar competition.
What team your kid play for?
In fact, here is a post from the Jesters thread "Father of a madlax player here. Jesters were talented and played well. I think they were up early in the game. The goalie made som very nice saves early on from what I recall. Our boys were bigger, more physical and won more ground balls. Not sure if Jesters were younger, but it was a decent game and no reason for the Jesters not to feel good about it. They were perhaps the most skilled team we played, but there were others who were more physical." (Anonymous - 1/2014)
Syosset and smithtown are the two
Best town teams on LI at this age hands Down.
Hands down?? Smithtown East or west?? Combined absolutely, but that doesn't count. Three village, GC, Commack Northport and Mt Sinai are just as good.
Town is just about over for these kids anyway - so let's leave them out. And I would bet a few of the better kids on the town teams are heading to one of the LI Catholics next year.
Syosset and smithtown are the two
Best town teams on LI at this age hands Down.
Hands down?? Smithtown East or west?? Combined absolutely, but that doesn't count. Three village, GC, Commack Northport and Mt Sinai are just as good.
Town teams are beatable by the better clubs, primarily because many of the better players from those towns play for the better clubs.
Every town program has to contend with parent coaches and/or school district coaches, all of whom bring varying levels of cronyism and nepotism to the field. Of course some private clubs have the same issues, but having done both, the private clubs have nowhere near the same level of unfairness and incompetence shown by our town program.
Best to rank the town teams separately, although I don't disagree that Syosset and Smithtown probably rank in the top half of that list depending on the day and who shows up.
Is Jester's A the same team that went to [lacrosse]'s? If so, surprised to see such a high ranking. A lot of teams that finished higher than Jesters are not even the best team in their Not Hot Bed areas - if so, this bodes well for the rest of the Country and Canada - other posts on the Dicks thread suggested that they were a B team
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI because they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
If you weren't there you have no idea what your talking about. Teams 2 through 20 were all competitive teams. 20 through 28 not so much. Madlax was a national team and head and shoulders above rest. The amount of OT and one goal games tells the story of similar competition.
What team your kid play for?
If you're questioning the Jesters talent level, go on the jester tryout thread and see what a madlax parent thought of them. Also, as has been said here before, if you or your son have something to prove, have your Coach or Director call the Jesters and book a game. 2018 Black will play anybody, anytime, anywhere. You won't book a game though, you'd rather run your mouth on here from afar and bad mouth 13 year old boys...
Syosset and smithtown are the two
Best town teams on LI at this age hands Down.
Hands down?? Smithtown East or west?? Combined absolutely, but that doesn't count. Three village, GC, Commack Northport and Mt Sinai are just as good.
Smithtown has a 2018 town team made up of east and west kids. Many extreme and terps kids
All this talk about the Jesters is taking away from the U-13 Team of the Tournament(forget Madlax National and their director/coach)
I am talking about the Grand River Ironmen. This group beat every single team which finished 3rd-9th enroute to their 2nd place finish.
In Pool Play they had wins over eventual:
4th place - Jr Mammoth 8-2
5th place - Red Devil United 6-5
6th place - Tampa Elite 4-3
7th place - Cannons Select 8-3
In Bracket Play they had wins over eventual:
9th place - Team Minnesota 13-6
8th place - Ironclads 11-9
3rd place - FCA 11-5
They did not face a single cupcake the whole weekend
Games between eventual 2-8 were all competitive - most other teams had at least 1 blowout loss to one of these teams
So How does the LI competition stack up at this age group. There has to be more teams
91 Extreme
Team LI White
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters
fl$
Outlaws
Wolverines
Tomahawks
....
1. 91 Extreme
2. Express Terps
3. fl$
4. 91 Orange
5. Jesters A
6. Express Wolverines
7. Outlaws A
8. Wantagh Tribe
9. Tomahawks
10. Legacy A
11. Express Piranhas
12. Outlaws B
13. 91 White
14. Recon
15. Threshers
16. Legacy B
17. Jesters B
18. Checkmate
19. Lax Warriors
20. Hitmen
21. 91 Stampede
I am not including any Team LI because they are aged based. This is for 2018 only.
How does fl$ finish abound Wolverines and Jesters when they beat them several times last year??
can't go by last year, several of the 3 and below teams had a lot of player changes. i believe fl$ picked up several who are capable of making extreme or terps but would rather get more play time which is what fl$ is all about.
Can't go by last year but you go by the rumor that they have "new" players that could have gone to Terps or Extreme??
Come on!
They also lost some very good players who did go to other top teams!
Ok, I am submitting a variation on the top Long Island club/town thread above. This one is my attempt at January power rankings for the 2018 teams (and TLI). This is based on Summer and Fall play, and is only based on the club teams I saw over that time, so no West Coast Stars or Madlax, for example - feel free to add them or others that you saw/played, but your list has to be 20 teams. This is entirely subjective, and meant to spark a friendly discussion on the top 20 teams. Below are my top 20 - feel free to post yours.
1. 91 Xtreme
2. Crabs
3. Victor
4. Team Long Island
5. Dukes
6. Superstar 365
7. Express Terps
8. Prime Time - Westchester
9. Bucks Select Red
10. Laxachusetts Black
11. Tri State
12. 91 Orange
13. Annapolis Hawks
14. NJ Patriots
15. 3D New England
16. Jesters
17. Texas Mustangs
18. NH Tomahawks
19. Baltimore Breakers
20. fl$
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All this talk about the Jesters is taking away from the U-13 Team of the Tournament(forget Madlax National and their director/coach)
I am talking about the Grand River Ironmen. This group beat every single team which finished 3rd-9th enroute to their 2nd place finish.
In Pool Play they had wins over eventual:
4th place - Jr Mammoth 8-2
5th place - Red Devil United 6-5
6th place - Tampa Elite 4-3
7th place - Cannons Select 8-3
In Bracket Play they had wins over eventual:
9th place - Team Minnesota 13-6
8th place - Ironclads 11-9
3rd place - FCA 11-5
They did not face a single cupcake the whole weekend
Games between eventual 2-8 were all competitive - most other teams had at least 1 blowout loss to one of these teams
Best Post
All this talk about the Jesters is taking away from the U-13 Team of the Tournament(forget Madlax National and their director/coach)
I am talking about the Grand River Ironmen. This group beat every single team which finished 3rd-9th enroute to their 2nd place finish.
In Pool Play they had wins over eventual:
4th place - Jr Mammoth 8-2
5th place - Red Devil United 6-5
6th place - Tampa Elite 4-3
7th place - Cannons Select 8-3
In Bracket Play they had wins over eventual:
9th place - Team Minnesota 13-6
8th place - Ironclads 11-9
3rd place - FCA 11-5
They did not face a single cupcake the whole weekend
Games between eventual 2-8 were all competitive - most other teams had at least 1 blowout loss to one of these teams
Anyone who played Madlax got blown out. But very good point. This was excellent team who played well all tournament.
Madlax was a very athletic, skilled and well coached team. Not sure what previous issues with coach/owner but this team was far and away the best team in the tournament.
Ok, I am submitting a variation on the top Long Island club/town thread above. This one is my attempt at January power rankings for the 2018 teams (and TLI). This is based on Summer and Fall play, and is only based on the club teams I saw over that time, so no West Coast Stars or Madlax, for example - feel free to add them or others that you saw/played, but your list has to be 20 teams. This is entirely subjective, and meant to spark a friendly discussion on the top 20 teams. Below are my top 20 - feel free to post yours.
1. 91 Xtreme
2. Crabs
3. Victor
4. Team Long Island
5. Dukes
6. Superstar 365
7. Express Terps
8. Prime Time - Westchester
9. Bucks Select Red
10. Laxachusetts Black
11. Tri State
12. 91 Orange
13. Annapolis Hawks
14. NJ Patriots
15. 3D New England
16. Jesters
17. Texas Mustangs
18. NH Tomahawks
19. Baltimore Breakers
20. fl$
Nope adjustment needed. That is a very good list. That should be the A & AA for an invitational tourney.
Madlax in top five and sweetlax in top ten.
<<Deleted>> is saying are the official website for travel rankings. They ranked quite a few grades.
Madlax in top five and sweetlax in top ten.
Madlax Is a national team. Sweet lax never saw a 2018 team
?? Are they grade based?
Ok, I am submitting a variation on the top Long Island club/town thread above. This one is my attempt at January power rankings for the 2018 teams (and TLI). This is based on Summer and Fall play, and is only based on the club teams I saw over that time, so no West Coast Stars or Madlax, for example - feel free to add them or others that you saw/played, but your list has to be 20 teams. This is entirely subjective, and meant to spark a friendly discussion on the top 20 teams. Below are my top 20 - feel free to post yours.
1. 91 Xtreme
2. Crabs
3. Victor
4. Team Long Island
5. Dukes
6. Superstar 365
7. Express Terps
8. Prime Time - Westchester
9. Bucks Select Red
10. Laxachusetts Black
11. Tri State
12. 91 Orange
13. Annapolis Hawks
14. NJ Patriots
15. 3D New England
16. Jesters
17. Texas Mustangs
18. NH Tomahawks
19. Baltimore Breakers
20. fl$
Nope adjustment needed. That is a very good list. That should be the A & AA for an invitational tourney.
Very good list. I think there is parity between teams 8 thru 20 that could yield 1 goal games either way on any given day. These rankings are fun, but unfortunately the "who's the best team" discussion will fade fast for this age group. With early recruiting the way it is, the focus will rapidly change for these kids. For many of them the process will begin over the next 6 to 12 months. Crazy, but true.
Madlax in top five and sweetlax in top ten.
Madlax Is a national team. Sweet lax never saw a 2018 team
?? Are they grade based?
Madlax has a strong dc based team . They are 8th graders and won the Greene turtle and a few others this summer. The top fifteen or so on that team were the core of the national team that played in dicks and the young guns. A few Cali and Florida kids joined to make it a national team. I would put the dc based team pretty high here. Also move the hawks higher. They were strong this summer and have gotten stronger this fall
Is this Victor team the upstate N.Y. town program ?
Is this Victor team the upstate N.Y. town program ?
Yes. They are very good but they are not top 3 for this age group. I can only assume that these rankings are based off last summer. The Dukes HHH 2018 team last year had seven 2019 kids on it and we managed to go 1-1 against 91 xtreme. This year we have a 2020, a 2019 and a 2018 team. The 2018 is very, very good. I guess we'll see just how good they are this summer but if I were to put money on it they'll be up there with team 91 and the crabs.
Is this Victor team the upstate N.Y. town program ?
Yes. They are very good but they are not top 3 for this age group. I can only assume that these rankings are based off last summer. The Dukes HHH 2018 team last year had seven 2019 kids on it and we managed to go 1-1 against 91 xtreme. This year we have a 2020, a 2019 and a 2018 team. The 2018 is very, very good. I guess we'll see just how good they are this summer but if I were to put money on it they'll be up there with team 91 and the crabs.
How many of the Dukes 2018 players will be 15 this summer??? I know they're all 2018. Blah, blah, blah... I know another LI parent whining about the truth...
Xtreme beat Dukes 2018 10-5 this fall.
I don't how good a list this is - the Wolverines beat the Jesters every time they played each other last spring/summer and beat fl$ in the JDRF. The Wolverines went unbeaten in fall play (2 ties). It is understood that every team has made changes from last year and it might make more sense to wait and see what happens when these teams actually play each other in 2014 before putting together a pretty silly ranking.
I don't how good a list this is - the Wolverines beat the Jesters every time they played each other last spring/summer and beat fl$ in the JDRF. The Wolverines went unbeaten in fall play (2 ties). It is understood that every team has made changes from last year and it might make more sense to wait and see what happens when these teams actually play each other in 2014 before putting together a pretty silly ranking.
Ok, so wolverines, Jesters, fl$, in that order. Feel better now? Wait fl$ got one player from terps and two from xtreme, so now they're better. Wait, fl$ lost player to terps so now they're not good anymore. Wait jesters brought back every starter and added players from fl$ and 91 and Express, so they're better. Good lord, who cares!! My guess these three teams play each other to one goal games every time they play this year...
How are Jesters 16th when they finished 18th at the [lacrosse]'s tournament which was full of non Hot Bed teams?
Where would you put [lacrosse]'s 2nd - 8th place teams as well as 9th-16th?
Was there any mutual opponents?
Ok, I am submitting a variation on the top Long Island club/town thread above. This one is my attempt at January power rankings for the 2018 teams (and TLI). This is based on Summer and Fall play, and is only based on the club teams I saw over that time, so no West Coast Stars or Madlax, for example - feel free to add them or others that you saw/played, but your list has to be 20 teams. This is entirely subjective, and meant to spark a friendly discussion on the top 20 teams. Below are my top 20 - feel free to post yours.
1. 91 Xtreme
2. Crabs
3. Victor
4. Team Long Island
5. Dukes
6. Superstar 365
7. Express Terps
8. Prime Time - Westchester
9. Bucks Select Red
10. Laxachusetts Black
11. Tri State
12. 91 Orange
13. Annapolis Hawks
14. NJ Patriots
15. 3D New England
16. Jesters
17. Texas Mustangs
18. NH Tomahawks
19. Baltimore Breakers
20. fl$
Nope adjustment needed. That is a very good list. That should be the A & AA for an invitational tourney.
How are Jesters 16th when they finished 18th at the [lacrosse]'s tournament which was full of non Hot Bed teams?
Where would you put [lacrosse]'s 2nd - 8th place teams as well as 9th-16th?
Was there any mutual opponents?
Ok, I am submitting a variation on the top Long Island club/town thread above. This one is my attempt at January power rankings for the 2018 teams (and TLI). This is based on Summer and Fall play, and is only based on the club teams I saw over that time, so no West Coast Stars or Madlax, for example - feel free to add them or others that you saw/played, but your list has to be 20 teams. This is entirely subjective, and meant to spark a friendly discussion on the top 20 teams. Below are my top 20 - feel free to post yours.
1. 91 Xtreme
2. Crabs
3. Victor
4. Team Long Island
5. Dukes
6. Superstar 365
7. Express Terps
8. Prime Time - Westchester
9. Bucks Select Red
10. Laxachusetts Black
11. Tri State
12. 91 Orange
13. Annapolis Hawks
14. NJ Patriots
15. 3D New England
16. Jesters
17. Texas Mustangs
18. NH Tomahawks
19. Baltimore Breakers
20. fl$
Nope adjustment needed. That is a very good list. That should be the A & AA for an invitational tourney.
An awful lot of energy going into something that is based on nothing. I agree that 91 Xtreme is in top 3 but that is the only true item on the list. Let's wait until the season has commenced before we start bashing the teams. After all, we all know it is going to come down to Terps and Xtreme, it always does.
Here we go with the jester bashing. The teams at Dicks were not 2018 like the Jesters. They were age based teams, many loaded with kids that on LI would be 9th graders. Not 2018. Who cares???
How are Jesters 16th when they finished 18th at the [lacrosse]'s tournament which was full of non Hot Bed teams?
Where would you put [lacrosse]'s 2nd - 8th place teams as well as 9th-16th?
Was there any mutual opponents?
Ok, I am submitting a variation on the top Long Island club/town thread above. This one is my attempt at January power rankings for the 2018 teams (and TLI). This is based on Summer and Fall play, and is only based on the club teams I saw over that time, so no West Coast Stars or Madlax, for example - feel free to add them or others that you saw/played, but your list has to be 20 teams. This is entirely subjective, and meant to spark a friendly discussion on the top 20 teams. Below are my top 20 - feel free to post yours.
1. 91 Xtreme
2. Crabs
3. Victor
4. Team Long Island
5. Dukes
6. Superstar 365
7. Express Terps
8. Prime Time - Westchester
9. Bucks Select Red
10. Laxachusetts Black
11. Tri State
12. 91 Orange
13. Annapolis Hawks
14. NJ Patriots
15. 3D New England
16. Jesters
17. Texas Mustangs
18. NH Tomahawks
19. Baltimore Breakers
20. fl$
Nope adjustment needed. That is a very good list. That should be the A & AA for an invitational tourney.
An awful lot of energy going into something that is based on nothing. I agree that 91 Xtreme is in top 3 but that is the only true item on the list. Let's wait until the season has commenced before we start bashing the teams. After all, we all know it is going to come down to Terps and Xtreme, it always does.
It is not Jester bashing. LI is the gold standard against which everyone should measure themselves. Jesters are part of that standard. Teams outside LI and Maryland are always looking to compare themselves with LI and Maryland squads.
A close game against any of the teams on your list implies a team can compete with the other teams similarly ranked on the list.
Let's please stop all the bs. Try to behave like adults lest this forum will turn into the 2017 forum...
It is not Jester bashing. LI is the gold standard against which everyone should measure themselves. Jesters are part of that standard. Teams outside LI and Maryland are always looking to compare themselves with LI and Maryland squads.
A close game against any of the teams on your list implies a team can compete with the other teams similarly ranked on the list.
They may.......but an all star team from multiple or whole states should be able to compete with one of the many travel teams from LI.
It is not Jester bashing. LI is the gold standard against which everyone should measure themselves. Jesters are part of that standard. Teams outside LI and Maryland are always looking to compare themselves with LI and Maryland squads.
A close game against any of the teams on your list implies a team can compete with the other teams similarly ranked on the list.
Your delusional... 15 years ago your statement might have made sense. Lacrosse is national sport now with strong teams from all over the country. I suggest you have your director book a game with your son's team against the Madlax national team. See how they fair.
We are making the same point Einstein
How did va/md/pa 2018 teams do this Fall? We saw Dukes up at the Express tourney on LI, but none of the other teams. Curious if Crabs, Madlax Md or Va, Bucks Select, Breakers, Hawks etc. were playing each other.
VA and MD teams played in NPYLL Autumn Classic. Crabs won close final against Hawks. Full results on website
Here we go with the jester bashing. The teams at Dicks were not 2018 like the Jesters. They were age based teams, many loaded with kids that on LI would be 9th graders. Not 2018. Who cares???
How are Jesters 16th when they finished 18th at the [lacrosse]'s tournament which was full of non Hot Bed teams?
Where would you put [lacrosse]'s 2nd - 8th place teams as well as 9th-16th?
Was there any mutual opponents?
Ok, I am submitting a variation on the top Long Island club/town thread above. This one is my attempt at January power rankings for the 2018 teams (and TLI). This is based on Summer and Fall play, and is only based on the club teams I saw over that time, so no West Coast Stars or Madlax, for example - feel free to add them or others that you saw/played, but your list has to be 20 teams. This is entirely subjective, and meant to spark a friendly discussion on the top 20 teams. Below are my top 20 - feel free to post yours.
1. 91 Xtreme
2. Crabs
3. Victor
4. Team Long Island
5. Dukes
6. Superstar 365
7. Express Terps
8. Prime Time - Westchester
9. Bucks Select Red
10. Laxachusetts Black
11. Tri State
12. 91 Orange
13. Annapolis Hawks
14. NJ Patriots
15. 3D New England
16. Jesters
17. Texas Mustangs
18. NH Tomahawks
19. Baltimore Breakers
20. fl$
Nope adjustment needed. That is a very good list. That should be the A & AA for an invitational tourney.
An awful lot of energy going into something that is based on nothing. I agree that 91 Xtreme is in top 3 but that is the only true item on the list. Let's wait until the season has commenced before we start bashing the teams. After all, we all know it is going to come down to Terps and Xtreme, it always does.
FCA Blue 2018 should be included in top 5...very talented team, watch out for them this Summer
Here we go with the jester bashing. The teams at Dicks were not 2018 like the Jesters. They were age based teams, many loaded with kids that on LI would be 9th graders. Not 2018. Who cares???
How are Jesters 16th when they finished 18th at the [lacrosse]'s tournament which was full of non Hot Bed teams?
Where would you put [lacrosse]'s 2nd - 8th place teams as well as 9th-16th?
Was there any mutual opponents?
Ok, I am submitting a variation on the top Long Island club/town thread above. This one is my attempt at January power rankings for the 2018 teams (and TLI). This is based on Summer and Fall play, and is only based on the club teams I saw over that time, so no West Coast Stars or Madlax, for example - feel free to add them or others that you saw/played, but your list has to be 20 teams. This is entirely subjective, and meant to spark a friendly discussion on the top 20 teams. Below are my top 20 - feel free to post yours.
1. 91 Xtreme
2. Crabs
3. Victor
4. Team Long Island
5. Dukes
6. Superstar 365
7. Express Terps
8. Prime Time - Westchester
9. Bucks Select Red
10. Laxachusetts Black
11. Tri State
12. 91 Orange
13. Annapolis Hawks
14. NJ Patriots
15. 3D New England
16. Jesters
17. Texas Mustangs
18. NH Tomahawks
19. Baltimore Breakers
20. fl$
Nope adjustment needed. That is a very good list. That should be the A & AA for an invitational tourney.
An awful lot of energy going into something that is based on nothing. I agree that 91 Xtreme is in top 3 but that is the only true item on the list. Let's wait until the season has commenced before we start bashing the teams. After all, we all know it is going to come down to Terps and Xtreme, it always does.
FCA Blue 2018 should be included in top 5...very talented team, watch out for them this Summer
Who have they played?
Superstar 365 in the top 10 ?
Isn't that a new organization with what, one summer under their belt?
Superstar 365 in the top 10 ?
Isn't that a new organization with what, one summer under their belt?
No, that team has been around for years - the coach added '365' to indicate it's a year round team. They beat a lot of good teams in 2013 including Express and Dukes.
How did va/md/pa 2018 teams do this Fall? We saw Dukes up at the Express tourney on LI, but none of the other teams. Curious if Crabs, Madlax Md or Va, Bucks Select, Breakers, Hawks etc. were playing each other.
To be honest you didn't really see the Dukes 2018 team this fall. The team you saw was 75% Dukes and 25% Big 4 players. The play day was during football playoffs and football is king in Pa.. My sons 2019 team had the same situation. We lost to the Wolverines 3-1 on Long Island but we smoked them 10-1 at winter nationals with a full squad.
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
Dukes lost to the Terps once at last years winter nationals, not twice. If you read my post earlier in this thread last years 2018 team had 7 2019 players on it. This 7 are now playing age appropriately and have been replaced with really good 2018 players and another 5 or 6 returning players didn't make the team again this year. I'm sure their play this summer will do their talking for them people are talking about how we did last summer or this fall when we were missing players due to football. At winter nationals they destroyed everyone. The closest game was 11-2. It's too bad the Terps didn't play in it this year.
The terps must have been missing a lot of players because they lost big at the Mitchell field tournament. That team did not look like the terps of old.
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
Dukes lost to the Terps once at last years winter nationals, not twice. If you read my post earlier in this thread last years 2018 team had 7 2019 players on it. This 7 are now playing age appropriately and have been replaced with really good 2018 players and another 5 or 6 returning players didn't make the team again this year. I'm sure their play this summer will do their talking for them people are talking about how we did last summer or this fall when we were missing players due to football. At winter nationals they destroyed everyone. The closest game was 11-2. It's too bad the Terps didn't play in it this year.
Dukes are an outstanding organization and like everybody else, when they lose it is because they were missing players or they were younger. one question I do have for you is what are the ages of the fab 7 2019's? could any perhaps have been born in 1999 or early 2000 ? just asking.
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
Dukes lost to the Terps once at last years winter nationals, not twice. If you read my post earlier in this thread last years 2018 team had 7 2019 players on it. This 7 are now playing age appropriately and have been replaced with really good 2018 players and another 5 or 6 returning players didn't make the team again this year. I'm sure their play this summer will do their talking for them people are talking about how we did last summer or this fall when we were missing players due to football. At winter nationals they destroyed everyone. The closest game was 11-2. It's too bad the Terps didn't play in it this year.
Dukes are an outstanding organization and like everybody else, when they lose it is because they were missing players or they were younger. one question I do have for you is what are the ages of the fab 7 2019's? could any perhaps have been born in 1999 or early 2000 ? just asking.
My son is April 5th 2001, one is august 15th 2000 and two others are between the two, the others I don't know their exact birth dates. Of the 7 only one is old enough to be in 8th grade. It cracks me up that some of you guys assume teams have to stack their rosters with over aged players to compete with the Long Island programs. FWIW I was born and raised on the Island. I love the way the game is played there but the Philly kids are really good. When I played the talent ended when you hit Queens and didn't pick up until you hit Baltimore. That's no longer the case.
Agree that Dukes are a good team and i think that is what was said abover, any of these teams can beat any of the others at any given time. No need to get upset at all because we are all looking forward to a great spring/summer season against the dukes and the rest of the upper level teams.
Out of this group of teams mentioned earlier (extreme, crabs, terps, madlax, team li, 365-if I left your son's team off the list, no disrespect meant, these are the teams that I have seen, no other reason), how many of your boys headed to the Jake reed try out in Florida?
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
Dukes lost to the Terps once at last years winter nationals, not twice. If you read my post earlier in this thread last years 2018 team had 7 2019 players on it. This 7 are now playing age appropriately and have been replaced with really good 2018 players and another 5 or 6 returning players didn't make the team again this year. I'm sure their play this summer will do their talking for them people are talking about how we did last summer or this fall when we were missing players due to football. At winter nationals they destroyed everyone. The closest game was 11-2. It's too bad the Terps didn't play in it this year.
How many reclassified 2017's this year on 2018,10? Isn't it interesting that all of a sudden teams like Dukes and Crabs in Md. become un-beatable teams as rising 9th graders on. The year before they're just another decent team. The kids on the team all begin to look like men too. I guess it's those secret training programs and vitamins. Also interesting that Dukes went to U-15 Championship this year and weren't a top team. (of course crabs never goes and won't) How could that be? They kill it in all the grade based tourns and don't do well in tourns where you need a birth certificate. Why is that?
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
Dukes lost to the Terps once at last years winter nationals, not twice. If you read my post earlier in this thread last years 2018 team had 7 2019 players on it. This 7 are now playing age appropriately and have been replaced with really good 2018 players and another 5 or 6 returning players didn't make the team again this year. I'm sure their play this summer will do their talking for them people are talking about how we did last summer or this fall when we were missing players due to football. At winter nationals they destroyed everyone. The closest game was 11-2. It's too bad the Terps didn't play in it this year.
How many reclassified 2017's this year on 2018,10? Isn't it interesting that all of a sudden teams like Dukes and Crabs in Md. become un-beatable teams as rising 9th graders on. The year before they're just another decent team. The kids on the team all begin to look like men too. I guess it's those secret training programs and vitamins. Also interesting that Dukes went to U-15 Championship this year and weren't a top team. (of course crabs never goes and won't) How could that be? They kill it in all the grade based tourns and don't do well in tourns where you need a birth certificate. Why is that?
Great point. On Long Island, the debate usually rages around whether someone is a month or three older than a public school cut off date - so September/October/November 1999's and why they aren't playing 2017. Dukes/Crabs is a different kettle of fish entirely. The Dukes team that travelled to Kellenberg this Fall was said to have three or four 1998 birth year kids on the team - all 8th graders. If that is even close to true, it shows how big the age/grade difference is between PA/MD and LI.
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
Dukes lost to the Terps once at last years winter nationals, not twice. If you read my post earlier in this thread last years 2018 team had 7 2019 players on it. This 7 are now playing age appropriately and have been replaced with really good 2018 players and another 5 or 6 returning players didn't make the team again this year. I'm sure their play this summer will do their talking for them people are talking about how we did last summer or this fall when we were missing players due to football. At winter nationals they destroyed everyone. The closest game was 11-2. It's too bad the Terps didn't play in it this year.
How many reclassified 2017's this year on 2018,10? Isn't it interesting that all of a sudden teams like Dukes and Crabs in Md. become un-beatable teams as rising 9th graders on. The year before they're just another decent team. The kids on the team all begin to look like men too. I guess it's those secret training programs and vitamins. Also interesting that Dukes went to U-15 Championship this year and weren't a top team. (of course crabs never goes and won't) How could that be? They kill it in all the grade based tourns and don't do well in tourns where you need a birth certificate. Why is that?
Great point. On Long Island, the debate usually rages around whether someone is a month or three older than a public school cut off date - so September/October/November 1999's and why they aren't playing 2017. Dukes/Crabs is a different kettle of fish entirely. The Dukes team that travelled to Kellenberg this Fall was said to have three or four 1998 birth year kids on the team - all 8th graders. If that is even close to true, it shows how big the age/grade difference is between PA/MD and LI.
The age thing is a rolling debate on the reclassification thread. It just takes US lacrosse to drop the grade play and go age every year u8, u9, u10, to u15. And then go grade in HS. The inconsistency is disconcerting. Those against that would while for a few days and move on. Problem solved. And the top teams would still be the top teams because it is about coaching.
I just think that it is funny that all the Maryland parents have been real quiet since this thread was started. I guess that there is nothing that they can say.
I just think that it is funny that all the Maryland parents have been real quiet since this thread was started. I guess that there is nothing that they can say.
Why get caught up in your nonsense...Not every boy is held back in Maryland. I am from Long Island and when I read these posts I am embarrassed to admit that. Stop the whining, the boys will end up where they should. Let them play, support them, encourage them and focus on grades. It all works out in the end. Only the parents are disappointed
So the Duke's dad that was happy to tell us about all the 2019 players is now not admitting how old his 2018s are?
Really, 3 players that should be in 10th grade?
How many of the Duke's are actually born in 2000?
I just think that it is funny that all the Maryland parents have been real quiet since this thread was started. I guess that there is nothing that they can say.
Why get caught up in your nonsense...Not every boy is held back in Maryland. I am from Long Island and when I read these posts I am embarrassed to admit that. Stop the whining, the boys will end up where they should. Let them play, support them, encourage them and focus on grades. It all works out in the end. Only the parents are disappointed
Sounds like you might have held your own kid back, and it didn't work out like you hoped. The condescending tone in your post wreaks of guilt... Why would you be embarrassed by folks who want to follow the rules, create a level playing field and weed out people who are gaming the system? All us "whiners" play by the rules, honor the game and have taught our children about ethics, integrity, and self respect. Sadly, when you stand up for these values, people like you in our society can't offer a retort, so your only response is to castigate them as a whiner. Folks, those who have daughters, beware of this type of upbringing. A man with no moral values...
So the Duke's dad that was happy to tell us about all the 2019 players is now not admitting how old his 2018s are?
Really, 3 players that should be in 10th grade?
How many of the Duke's are actually born in 2000?
AFAIK they have two. Sorry I didn't answer you sooner, I have a life that prevents me from answering you when you expect it. Some of you LI parents give the sport a bad name.
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
Dukes lost to the Terps once at last years winter nationals, not twice. If you read my post earlier in this thread last years 2018 team had 7 2019 players on it. This 7 are now playing age appropriately and have been replaced with really good 2018 players and another 5 or 6 returning players didn't make the team again this year. I'm sure their play this summer will do their talking for them people are talking about how we did last summer or this fall when we were missing players due to football. At winter nationals they destroyed everyone. The closest game was 11-2. It's too bad the Terps didn't play in it this year.
How many reclassified 2017's this year on 2018,10? Isn't it interesting that all of a sudden teams like Dukes and Crabs in Md. become un-beatable teams as rising 9th graders on. The year before they're just another decent team. The kids on the team all begin to look like men too. I guess it's those secret training programs and vitamins. Also interesting that Dukes went to U-15 Championship this year and weren't a top team. (of course crabs never goes and won't) How could that be? They kill it in all the grade based tourns and don't do well in tourns where you need a birth certificate. Why is that?
I won't talk about the Maryland clubs because I don't know, nor do I care about how they run their programs.
It isn't really surprising that the Philly kids blossom late. Unlike the town programs on Long Island the ones in the Philly area are staffed mostly by parents that have little to no playing experience. My sons club is one of the better ones in the area and 70% of the coaches in the program have no playing experience. Because we have the blind leading the blind in many cases our kids generally lag two to three years behind the LI kids in terms of stick skills and lacrosse IQ. By the time they get to middle school that difference shrinks considerably.
The real difference is that in general we have better athletes. The city of Philly is a wasteland for lacrosse. All the good players come from the counties just outside the city. If you look at population densities it is similar to LI but if you look at the number of kids from those burbs playing in the NFL, MLB AND THE NBA those numbers dwarf the number of LI kids in those leagues. I'm sure that will ruffle so e feathers here but it is what it is. If you disagree with that statement feel free to Mike Chanenchuk as he has no problems admitting it.
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
Dukes lost to the Terps once at last years winter nationals, not twice. If you read my post earlier in this thread last years 2018 team had 7 2019 players on it. This 7 are now playing age appropriately and have been replaced with really good 2018 players and another 5 or 6 returning players didn't make the team again this year. I'm sure their play this summer will do their talking for them people are talking about how we did last summer or this fall when we were missing players due to football. At winter nationals they destroyed everyone. The closest game was 11-2. It's too bad the Terps didn't play in it this year.
How many reclassified 2017's this year on 2018,10? Isn't it interesting that all of a sudden teams like Dukes and Crabs in Md. become un-beatable teams as rising 9th graders on. The year before they're just another decent team. The kids on the team all begin to look like men too. I guess it's those secret training programs and vitamins. Also interesting that Dukes went to U-15 Championship this year and weren't a top team. (of course crabs never goes and won't) How could that be? They kill it in all the grade based tourns and don't do well in tourns where you need a birth certificate. Why is that?
You're completely wrong about the U15 championship. The lost to the tournament champions 3d in the semi's 10-7 with a team that had 100% of their roster composed of entirely of 2017 players. On the other hand every single Long Island player who made the all tournament team was a rising sophomore (David Confort, Matt Glavin, Ryan Rogers and Steve Cuccurullo). I'm sure those four were the only 2016 Long Island players at the tournament. If you're gonna spout crap you had better know your facts.
You LI parents should consider yourselves lucky that you only have to compete with the reclassed kids in tournaments. Imaging having to compete with them on a daily basis. Not just for recrutimg spots but for regular roster spots year in and year out. Kuddos to those few MD kids who play on the proper age/ grade and excell. They will be the winners in the long run!
So the Duke's dad that was happy to tell us about all the 2019 players is now not admitting how old his 2018s are?
Really, 3 players that should be in 10th grade?
How many of the Duke's are actually born in 2000?
AFAIK they have two. Sorry I didn't answer you sooner, I have a life that prevents me from answering you when you expect it. Some of you LI parents give the sport a bad name.
yes, all the cheaters go back to the same thing--call LI parents whinners and say that li gives game a bad name...cheating is what gives the game a bad name and apparently philly following md...
or if you believe the other philly guy, they just have better athletes...
if that was the case, there would be no reason to cheat...
We do .... on LI the hold-backs are in every grade, in every sport, all through MS and HS. It's not just the grade based lax tournaments.
So the Duke's dad that was happy to tell us about all the 2019 players is now not admitting how old his 2018s are?
Really, 3 players that should be in 10th grade?
How many of the Duke's are actually born in 2000?
AFAIK they have two. Sorry I didn't answer you sooner, I have a life that prevents me from answering you when you expect it. Some of you LI parents give the sport a bad name.
yes, all the cheaters go back to the same thing--call LI parents whinners and say that li gives game a bad name...cheating is what gives the game a bad name and apparently philly following md...
or if you believe the other philly guy, they just have better athletes...
if that was the case, there would be no reason to cheat...
There is only one Philly guy in this thread and it's me. Call me crazy but all I've read in this thread is a bunch unsubstantiated b.s. About Dukes is how they have to cheat to compete with the mighty and morally superior Long Island kids. If that's what you need to feel better about yourself have at it. The Dukes team that played in the U15 national championship were all rising freshmen. All the Long Island kids that I cared to look up we're rising Sophomores. It seems like someone needs to use overaged players to compete and it isn't the Dukes. I'm not pulling this stuff out of thin air. Feel free to look up the rosters from the tournament and google the players names. The Long Island clubs aren't as squeaky clean as you want to pretend they are.
You should learn your facts before you as you put it "spout your crap"! I know for a fact the boy from the Turtles is a TRUE 2017 yes a TRUE 2017, that would be a 1999 birthday in case you are not sure.
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
Dukes lost to the Terps once at last years winter nationals, not twice. If you read my post earlier in this thread last years 2018 team had 7 2019 players on it. This 7 are now playing age appropriately and have been replaced with really good 2018 players and another 5 or 6 returning players didn't make the team again this year. I'm sure their play this summer will do their talking for them people are talking about how we did last summer or this fall when we were missing players due to football. At winter nationals they destroyed everyone. The closest game was 11-2. It's too bad the Terps didn't play in it this year.
How many reclassified 2017's this year on 2018,10? Isn't it interesting that all of a sudden teams like Dukes and Crabs in Md. become un-beatable teams as rising 9th graders on. The year before they're just another decent team. The kids on the team all begin to look like men too. I guess it's those secret training programs and vitamins. Also interesting that Dukes went to U-15 Championship this year and weren't a top team. (of course crabs never goes and won't) How could that be? They kill it in all the grade based tourns and don't do well in tourns where you need a birth certificate. Why is that?
You're completely wrong about the U15 championship. The lost to the tournament champions 3d in the semi's 10-7 with a team that had 100% of their roster composed of entirely of 2017 players. On the other hand every single Long Island player who made the all tournament team was a rising sophomore (David Confort, Matt Glavin, Ryan Rogers and Steve Cuccurullo). I'm sure those four were the only 2016 Long Island players at the tournament. If you're gonna spout crap you had better know your facts.
You are Wrong! Check your facts before you "spout your crap" the Turtles kid is a True 2017 with a 1999 birthday!
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
Dukes lost to the Terps once at last years winter nationals, not twice. If you read my post earlier in this thread last years 2018 team had 7 2019 players on it. This 7 are now playing age appropriately and have been replaced with really good 2018 players and another 5 or 6 returning players didn't make the team again this year. I'm sure their play this summer will do their talking for them people are talking about how we did last summer or this fall when we were missing players due to football. At winter nationals they destroyed everyone. The closest game was 11-2. It's too bad the Terps didn't play in it this year.
How many reclassified 2017's this year on 2018,10? Isn't it interesting that all of a sudden teams like Dukes and Crabs in Md. become un-beatable teams as rising 9th graders on. The year before they're just another decent team. The kids on the team all begin to look like men too. I guess it's those secret training programs and vitamins. Also interesting that Dukes went to U-15 Championship this year and weren't a top team. (of course crabs never goes and won't) How could that be? They kill it in all the grade based tourns and don't do well in tourns where you need a birth certificate. Why is that?
You're completely wrong about the U15 championship. The lost to the tournament champions 3d in the semi's 10-7 with a team that had 100% of their roster composed of entirely of 2017 players. On the other hand every single Long Island player who made the all tournament team was a rising sophomore (David Confort, Matt Glavin, Ryan Rogers and Steve Cuccurullo). I'm sure those four were the only 2016 Long Island players at the tournament. If you're gonna spout crap you had better know your facts.
You are Wrong! Check your facts before you "spout your crap" the Turtles kid is a True 2017 with a 1999 birthday!
Who cares?
So the Duke's dad that was happy to tell us about all the 2019 players is now not admitting how old his 2018s are?
Really, 3 players that should be in 10th grade?
How many of the Duke's are actually born in 2000?
AFAIK they have two. Sorry I didn't answer you sooner, I have a life that prevents me from answering you when you expect it. Some of you LI parents give the sport a bad name.
yes, all the cheaters go back to the same thing--call LI parents whinners and say that li gives game a bad name...cheating is what gives the game a bad name and apparently philly following md...
or if you believe the other philly guy, they just have better athletes...
if that was the case, there would be no reason to cheat...
There is only one Philly guy in this thread and it's me. Call me crazy but all I've read in this thread is a bunch unsubstantiated b.s. About Dukes is how they have to cheat to compete with the mighty and morally superior Long Island kids. If that's what you need to feel better about yourself have at it. The Dukes team that played in the U15 national championship were all rising freshmen. All the Long Island kids that I cared to look up we're rising Sophomores. It seems like someone needs to use overaged players to compete and it isn't the Dukes. I'm not pulling this stuff out of thin air. Feel free to look up the rosters from the tournament and google the players names. The Long Island clubs aren't as squeaky clean as you want to pretend they are.
Hey philly guy, the question is how old were those rising freshman? I am sure they were the same age as the rising sophs, given the fact that your team, as you admitted above, has lots of reclassed kids...
It is not Jester bashing. LI is the gold standard against which everyone should measure themselves. Jesters are part of that standard. Teams outside LI and Maryland are always looking to compare themselves with LI and Maryland squads.
A close game against any of the teams on your list implies a team can compete with the other teams similarly ranked on the list.
Saw the Jesters 2018 Black team play this evening and they are solid. They held their own perfectly vs 9th & 10th grade kids from Farmingdale and Port Washington. Wouldn't say they are AA but they are good A team.
The Dukes team that played in the U15 national championship were all rising freshmen. All the Long Island kids that I cared to look up we're rising Sophomores. It seems like someone needs to use overaged players to compete and it isn't the Dukes. I'm not pulling this stuff out of thin air. Feel free to look up the rosters from the tournament and google the players names. The Long Island clubs aren't as squeaky clean as you want to pretend they are.
Dude - I hope you are not a lawyer because you just made the opposition case, in a U15 age based tournament the philly team were all 9th grade while LI was all 10th grade - that does not mean that the long island kids were older, everybody was the same age - U15 - it meant that the philly kids were the same age but a year behind in school.
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
Dukes lost to the Terps once at last years winter nationals, not twice. If you read my post earlier in this thread last years 2018 team had 7 2019 players on it. This 7 are now playing age appropriately and have been replaced with really good 2018 players and another 5 or 6 returning players didn't make the team again this year. I'm sure their play this summer will do their talking for them people are talking about how we did last summer or this fall when we were missing players due to football. At winter nationals they destroyed everyone. The closest game was 11-2. It's too bad the Terps didn't play in it this year.
How many reclassified 2017's this year on 2018,10? Isn't it interesting that all of a sudden teams like Dukes and Crabs in Md. become un-beatable teams as rising 9th graders on. The year before they're just another decent team. The kids on the team all begin to look like men too. I guess it's those secret training programs and vitamins. Also interesting that Dukes went to U-15 Championship this year and weren't a top team. (of course crabs never goes and won't) How could that be? They kill it in all the grade based tourns and don't do well in tourns where you need a birth certificate. Why is that?
You're completely wrong about the U15 championship. The lost to the tournament champions 3d in the semi's 10-7 with a team that had 100% of their roster composed of entirely of 2017 players. On the other hand every single Long Island player who made the all tournament team was a rising sophomore (David Confort, Matt Glavin, Ryan Rogers and Steve Cuccurullo). I'm sure those four were the only 2016 Long Island players at the tournament. If you're gonna spout crap you had better know your facts.
You are Wrong! Check your facts before you "spout your crap" the Turtles kid is a True 2017 with a 1999 birthday!
You got me on that one superstar. What about the other three? I just bothered to look at the four LI kids that made the all tournament team. I'd bet if I found the rosters that US lacrosse put up before the tournament and went through them i'd bet the mortgage that those three kids weren't the only overaged Long Island kids in the tournament. It's funny I've heard all sorts of untruthful [lacrosse] about how Dukes sent a team with overaged players and yet no here one can name a single Dukes player who isn't a 2017, kid and yet I managed to name three Long Island kids who are 2016's with 2 minutes of research.
Instead of getting all pissy because I screwed up by misidentifying the Cuccurullo kid why don't you have the stones to acknowledge that most of the posters here are full of crap on the subject. Am I wrong about the graduating years of Gavin, Rogers and Confort or would you just prefer to ignore they truth and live in your fantasy world where you guys are the best thing that ever happened to lacrosse and everyone else has to cheat to be competitive?
I hope you guys don't represent the typical LIE, Team 91 or Turtles parent because that would be embarrassing.
So the Duke's dad that was happy to tell us about all the 2019 players is now not admitting how old his 2018s are?
Really, 3 players that should be in 10th grade?
How many of the Duke's are actually born in 2000?
AFAIK they have two. Sorry I didn't answer you sooner, I have a life that prevents me from answering you when you expect it. Some of you LI parents give the sport a bad name.
yes, all the cheaters go back to the same thing--call LI parents whinners and say that li gives game a bad name...cheating is what gives the game a bad name and apparently philly following md...
or if you believe the other philly guy, they just have better athletes...
if that was the case, there would be no reason to cheat...
There is only one Philly guy in this thread and it's me. Call me crazy but all I've read in this thread is a bunch unsubstantiated b.s. About Dukes is how they have to cheat to compete with the mighty and morally superior Long Island kids. If that's what you need to feel better about yourself have at it. The Dukes team that played in the U15 national championship were all rising freshmen. All the Long Island kids that I cared to look up we're rising Sophomores. It seems like someone needs to use overaged players to compete and it isn't the Dukes. I'm not pulling this stuff out of thin air. Feel free to look up the rosters from the tournament and google the players names. The Long Island clubs aren't as squeaky clean as you want to pretend they are.
Hey philly guy, the question is how old were those rising freshman? I am sure they were the same age as the rising sophs, given the fact that your team, as you admitted above, has lots of declassed kids...
Good god please point out where I admitted that Dukes had
lots of reclassified kids. We don't and I've said it several times in this thread, but I'll play your game.
I have read that Dukes (not true) and the Crabs (don't care) uses lots of overage players in this thread and the Long Island teams don't. Well that simply isn't true. You can deny it all you want but explain why the LIE had at least three 2016's playing in a national tournament for kids who should be in 2017?
You guys don't get to wag your finger and pretend to be morally superior when you aren't.
So the Duke's dad that was happy to tell us about all the 2019 players is now not admitting how old his 2018s are?
Really, 3 players that should be in 10th grade?
How many of the Duke's are actually born in 2000?
AFAIK they have two. Sorry I didn't answer you sooner, I have a life that prevents me from answering you when you expect it. Some of you LI parents give the sport a bad name.
yes, all the cheaters go back to the same thing--call LI parents whinners and say that li gives game a bad name...cheating is what gives the game a bad name and apparently philly following md...
or if you believe the other philly guy, they just have better athletes...
if that was the case, there would be no reason to cheat...
There is only one Philly guy in this thread and it's me. Call me crazy but all I've read in this thread is a bunch unsubstantiated b.s. About Dukes is how they have to cheat to compete with the mighty and morally superior Long Island kids. If that's what you need to feel better about yourself have at it. The Dukes team that played in the U15 national championship were all rising freshmen. All the Long Island kids that I cared to look up we're rising Sophomores. It seems like someone needs to use overaged players to compete and it isn't the Dukes. I'm not pulling this stuff out of thin air. Feel free to look up the rosters from the tournament and google the players names. The Long Island clubs aren't as squeaky clean as you want to pretend they are.
Hey philly guy, the question is how old were those rising freshman? I am sure they were the same age as the rising sophs, given the fact that your team, as you admitted above, has lots of declassed kids...
Good god please point out where I admitted that Dukes had
lots of reclassified kids. We don't and I've said it several times in this thread, but I'll play your game.
I have read that Dukes (not true) and the Crabs (don't care) uses lots of overage players in this thread and the Long Island teams don't. Well that simply isn't true. You can deny it all you want but explain why the LIE had at least three 2016's playing in a national tournament for kids who should be in 2017?
You guys don't get to wag your finger and pretend to be morally superior when you aren't.
Are you that stupid? Read what you are typing! You are proving the point everyone is trying to make. Are they 2016's? YES you moron, are they older than your 2017's and possibly some of your 2018's? NO!!!! why? because they were not held back!!! Therefore they went to school a year or 2 earlier than many of the kids on your team. They are NOT older and not cheating! Every player had to give their birth certificate! you can't be serious????
It is not Jester bashing. LI is the gold standard against which everyone should measure themselves. Jesters are part of that standard. Teams outside LI and Maryland are always looking to compare themselves with LI and Maryland squads.
A close game against any of the teams on your list implies a team can compete with the other teams similarly ranked on the list.
Saw the Jesters 2018 Black team play this evening and they are solid. They held their own perfectly vs 9th & 10th grade kids from Farmingdale and Port Washington. Wouldn't say they are AA but they are good A team.
BTW they were missing a couple of key high scoring starters last night... They have beaten JV travel teams. Agreed, they aren't AA and don't bill themselves as such. They will play anybody, anytime including any AA team.
So the Duke's dad that was happy to tell us about all the 2019 players is now not admitting how old his 2018s are?
Really, 3 players that should be in 10th grade?
How many of the Duke's are actually born in 2000?
AFAIK they have two. Sorry I didn't answer you sooner, I have a life that prevents me from answering you when you expect it. Some of you LI parents give the sport a bad name.
yes, all the cheaters go back to the same thing--call LI parents whinners and say that li gives game a bad name...cheating is what gives the game a bad name and apparently philly following md...
or if you believe the other philly guy, they just have better athletes...
if that was the case, there would be no reason to cheat...
There is only one Philly guy in this thread and it's me. Call me crazy but all I've read in this thread is a bunch unsubstantiated b.s. About Dukes is how they have to cheat to compete with the mighty and morally superior Long Island kids. If that's what you need to feel better about yourself have at it. The Dukes team that played in the U15 national championship were all rising freshmen. All the Long Island kids that I cared to look up we're rising Sophomores. It seems like someone needs to use overaged players to compete and it isn't the Dukes. I'm not pulling this stuff out of thin air. Feel free to look up the rosters from the tournament and google the players names. The Long Island clubs aren't as squeaky clean as you want to pretend they are.
Hey philly guy, the question is how old were those rising freshman? I am sure they were the same age as the rising sophs, given the fact that your team, as you admitted above, has lots of declassed kids...
Good god please point out where I admitted that Dukes had
lots of reclassified kids. We don't and I've said it several times in this thread, but I'll play your game.
I have read that Dukes (not true) and the Crabs (don't care) uses lots of overage players in this thread and the Long Island teams don't. Well that simply isn't true. You can deny it all you want but explain why the LIE had at least three 2016's playing in a national tournament for kids who should be in 2017?
You guys don't get to wag your finger and pretend to be morally superior when you aren't.
Philly dad, you are proving the point. LI kids playing age appropriate in this tourny, and graduating in the year they should while your kids playing a year down (or at least a bunch of them). why dont you get it?
Dukes/Philly dad, here's the point. The 2018 Dukes team has several boys who are a year or more older than the oldest players on Xtreme 2018, or Team Long Island for that matter. Those few boys are very important to the Dukes team, which I saw play several times this year; it is very obvious who the boys are. It's not about cheating, or reclassifying - it's a simple point about age, and your team is a lot older. That didn't seem to bother Xtreme very much this Fall when they beat you 10-5, and yes Xtreme has a lot of boys who play football and also had kids out due to injury. When you come on this thread and pound your chest about how good and young Dukes is, you're going to get Long Island push back, because the LI teams you play against are a lot younger, even if they're all in the same grade. We're happy to play you, and the games are great - just spare us the excuses when you lose and the blather about how young the team is.
I just think that it is funny that all the Maryland parents have been real quiet since this thread was started. I guess that there is nothing that they can say.
Why get caught up in your nonsense...Not every boy is held back in Maryland. I am from Long Island and when I read these posts I am embarrassed to admit that. Stop the whining, the boys will end up where they should. Let them play, support them, encourage them and focus on grades. It all works out in the end. Only the parents are disappointed
Sounds like you might have held your own kid back, and it didn't work out like you hoped. The condescending tone in your post wreaks of guilt... Why would you be embarrassed by folks who want to follow the rules, create a level playing field and weed out people who are gaming the system? All us "whiners" play by the rules, honor the game and have taught our children about ethics, integrity, and self respect. Sadly, when you stand up for these values, people like you in our society can't offer a retort, so your only response is to castigate them as a whiner. Folks, those who have daughters, beware of this type of upbringing. A man with no moral values...
Ethics, Honor for the game???? The crazy amount of f-bombs dropped by LI parents, yelling at refs and even some parents running on the field...please dont preach ethics and honor! Just because little Johnny isn't winning is no reason to whine, complain and act like poor sportsman. My kid is in Md, age appropriate and can handle himself..no complaints
Please stop complaining about a few bad li parents, we agree, they exist. However, I watched the same poor behavior being displayed by parents at every event by every team. Lots of loud obnoxious parents at young gunz last year. seems rude parents are all over (md, li, philly, texas, CA), every team has a few and you all know those on your son's team that fit the bill...
If you dont want to hear li parents complaining about your md teams cheating by holding back kids, stay on the md thread...
Please stop complaining about the hold-back issue...there are a few, Crabs probably the highest percentage. Most boys are age appropriate and on many of the clubs the oldest aren't always the best. The arguement gets old and it won't go away. Some parents think it offers a competitive advantage and if that is how they choose to spend their $ so be it.
yeah, 2018 terps beat Dukes 2wice in winter nationals but lost to them on LI...all good teams and i/m/o any of the below teams can beat the others on any given day--
that means terps, extreme, dukes, crabs, team li and 365. I heard the madlax team is also very strong but have not seen them play so can't comment.
the above are the only teams that have had comepetitive games against the terps in the last three years we have been on the team. Perhaps this year will be differnt with various kids being reclassed and the onset pf puberty...
good luck to all
Dukes lost to the Terps once at last years winter nationals, not twice. If you read my post earlier in this thread last years 2018 team had 7 2019 players on it. This 7 are now playing age appropriately and have been replaced with really good 2018 players and another 5 or 6 returning players didn't make the team again this year. I'm sure their play this summer will do their talking for them people are talking about how we did last summer or this fall when we were missing players due to football. At winter nationals they destroyed everyone. The closest game was 11-2. It's too bad the Terps didn't play in it this year.
How many reclassified 2017's this year on 2018,10? Isn't it interesting that all of a sudden teams like Dukes and Crabs in Md. become un-beatable teams as rising 9th graders on. The year before they're just another decent team. The kids on the team all begin to look like men too. I guess it's those secret training programs and vitamins. Also interesting that Dukes went to U-15 Championship this year and weren't a top team. (of course crabs never goes and won't) How could that be? They kill it in all the grade based tourns and don't do well in tourns where you need a birth certificate. Why is that?
You're completely wrong about the U15 championship. The lost to the tournament champions 3d in the semi's 10-7 with a team that had 100% of their roster composed of entirely of 2017 players. On the other hand every single Long Island player who made the all tournament team was a rising sophomore (David Confort, Matt Glavin, Ryan Rogers and Steve Cuccurullo). I'm sure those four were the only 2016 Long Island players at the tournament. If you're gonna spout crap you had better know your facts.
You are Wrong! Check your facts before you "spout your crap" the Turtles kid is a True 2017 with a 1999 birthday!
You got me on that one superstar. What about the other three? I just bothered to look at the four LI kids that made the all tournament team. I'd bet if I found the rosters that US lacrosse put up before the tournament and went through them i'd bet the mortgage that those three kids weren't the only overaged Long Island kids in the tournament. It's funny I've heard all sorts of untruthful [lacrosse] about how Dukes sent a team with overaged players and yet no here one can name a single Dukes player who isn't a 2017, kid and yet I managed to name three Long Island kids who are 2016's with 2 minutes of research.
Instead of getting all pissy because I screwed up by misidentifying the Cuccurullo kid why don't you have the stones to acknowledge that most of the posters here are full of crap on the subject. Am I wrong about the graduating years of Gavin, Rogers and Confort or would you just prefer to ignore they truth and live in your fantasy world where you guys are the best thing that ever happened to lacrosse and everyone else has to cheat to be competitive?
I hope you guys don't represent the typical LIE, Team 91 or Turtles parent because that would be embarrassing.
I thought it was a violation of BOTC rules to use the name of any kid......What's up with this whole discussion and the reference to particular players by name???
I thought it was a violation of BOTC rules to use the name of any kid......What's up with this whole discussion and the reference to particular players by name???
Fair question although we believe that the discussion is still "in bounds". The actual
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I thought it was a violation of BOTC rules to use the name of any kid......What's up with this whole discussion and the reference to particular players by name???
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How about false claims about the boys? This time it is his age whats next? Are all false claims ok? No minors name should be allowed to be used at all, who is to say what the kids parents views as negative or not. Minors names should be omitted.
How about false claims about the boys? This time it is his age whats next? Are all false claims ok? No minors name should be allowed to be used at all, who is to say what the kids parents views as negative or not. Minors names should be omitted.
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Catholic High School acceptance letters for class of 2018 were sent earlier this week and received by many/most today ...
Chaminade and St. Anthony's will be loaded as usual.
How many 2018's went down to 3D Blue Chip this weekend to compete in the South region.
How many 2018's went down to 3D Blue Chip this weekend to compete in the South region.
Would LI players like to compete against AL,FL,GA,LA,TN,MS for a spot on Jake Reed. Of course they would. Think about the lack of competition. Sorry its just facts. If you cant compare them sisde by side with Mid Atlantic region which will be stacked then very tough to compare apples to apples.
Would LI players like to compete against AL,FL,GA,LA,TN,MS for a spot on Jake Reed. Of course they would. Think about the lack of competition. Sorry its just facts. If you cant compare them sisde by side with Mid Atlantic region which will be stacked then very tough to compare apples to apples.
Decades back, Detroit laughed at overseas competition in the auto industry.
Years back, technology and IT staffers laughed at the prospect of an emerging off-shore push.
The point is simple. The Long Island and Maryland strangle-hold on recruiting scholarships will eventually decay as other regions begin to move into the competition. Think about it.
Would LI players like to compete against AL,FL,GA,LA,TN,MS for a spot on Jake Reed. Of course they would. Think about the lack of competition. Sorry its just facts. If you cant compare them sisde by side with Mid Atlantic region which will be stacked then very tough to compare apples to apples.
Decades back, Detroit laughed at overseas competition in the auto industry.
Years back, technology and IT staffers laughed at the prospect of an emerging off-shore push.
The point is simple. The Long Island and Maryland strangle-hold on recruiting scholarships will eventually decay as other regions begin to move into the competition. Think about it.
Cage I agree but what people or parents do is avoid the better competition. Come on, your a good attackman and you have that Big D man from extreme on you he makes you look OK. Now you go down and work a weak D man and you look great. As much as the evaluators try and make selections over all the regions when great players go against weak comp they look even better. I do agree as more athletes get involved and ex big lax guys living in other states really get lacrosse going the comp will get better but that in my opinion 5 to 10 years away. You have Cali and Texas and a few others putting out some good teams but those are just one or two strong teams. Could you imagine if LI actually put together a real select elite team. I mean the best players from Extreme, Express, Team LI etc. WOW.
How many 2018's went down to 3D Blue Chip this weekend to compete in the South region.
Would LI players like to compete against AL,FL,GA,LA,TN,MS for a spot on Jake Reed. Of course they would. Think about the lack of competition. Sorry its just facts. If you cant compare them sisde by side with Mid Atlantic region which will be stacked then very tough to compare apples to apples.
Please go to the 3d website before you make a comment like this. You would find out that you missed a few states for this camps "South region". like MD, Va, NC. This in fact is the toughest week. So if you are from LI your playing every stud and holdback from these three states. Now go to the website and look who LI will be competing against next week?
Would LI players like to compete against AL,FL,GA,LA,TN,MS for a spot on Jake Reed. Of course they would. Think about the lack of competition. Sorry its just facts. If you cant compare them sisde by side with Mid Atlantic region which will be stacked then very tough to compare apples to apples.
Decades back, Detroit laughed at overseas competition in the auto industry.
Years back, technology and IT staffers laughed at the prospect of an emerging off-shore push.
The point is simple. The Long Island and Maryland strangle-hold on recruiting scholarships will eventually decay as other regions begin to move into the competition. Think about it.
Cage I agree but what people or parents do is avoid the better competition. Come on, your a good attackman and you have that Big D man from extreme on you he makes you look OK. Now you go down and work a weak D man and you look great. As much as the evaluators try and make selections over all the regions when great players go against weak comp they look even better. I do agree as more athletes get involved and ex big lax guys living in other states really get lacrosse going the comp will get better but that in my opinion 5 to 10 years away. You have Cali and Texas and a few others putting out some good teams but those are just one or two strong teams. Could you imagine if LI actually put together a real select elite team. I mean the best players from Extreme, Express, Team LI etc. WOW.
The scenario you depict is already here. There are very few LI kids, many no LI kids. If you think just because your son is good LI lax kid he's got a D1 slot in the bag, you are grossly mistaken. The athletes being selected from other parts of the country are kids who 10 years ago would have been looking for D1 football scholarships. The party is over. I promise you. BTW I am a LI parent.
Would LI players like to compete against AL,FL,GA,LA,TN,MS for a spot on Jake Reed. Of course they would. Think about the lack of competition. Sorry its just facts. If you cant compare them sisde by side with Mid Atlantic region which will be stacked then very tough to compare apples to apples.
Decades back, Detroit laughed at overseas competition in the auto industry.
Years back, technology and IT staffers laughed at the prospect of an emerging off-shore push.
The point is simple. The Long Island and Maryland strangle-hold on recruiting scholarships will eventually decay as other regions begin to move into the competition. Think about it.
Cage I agree but what people or parents do is avoid the better competition. Come on, your a good attackman and you have that Big D man from extreme on you he makes you look OK. Now you go down and work a weak D man and you look great. As much as the evaluators try and make selections over all the regions when great players go against weak comp they look even better. I do agree as more athletes get involved and ex big lax guys living in other states really get lacrosse going the comp will get better but that in my opinion 5 to 10 years away. You have Cali and Texas and a few others putting out some good teams but those are just one or two strong teams. Could you imagine if LI actually put together a real select elite team. I mean the best players from Extreme, Express, Team LI etc. WOW.
The scenario you depict is already here. There are very few LI kids, many no LI kids. If you think just because your son is good LI lax kid he's got a D1 slot in the bag, you are grossly mistaken. The athletes being selected from other parts of the country are kids who 10 years ago would have been looking for D1 football scholarships. The party is over. I promise you. BTW I am a LI parent.
I understand what your saying but let's not jump the gun. If you combine the LI, and NY area players in D1 lax I believe it's over 20% of players. What I was originally stating is that LI parents don't want their kids to go against LI kids because the competition is too hard. So going to the South region is a lot easier than actually going to the Mid Atlantic region.
How many 2018's went down to 3D Blue Chip this weekend to compete in the South region.
Would LI players like to compete against AL,FL,GA,LA,TN,MS for a spot on Jake Reed. Of course they would. Think about the lack of competition. Sorry its just facts. If you cant compare them sisde by side with Mid Atlantic region which will be stacked then very tough to compare apples to apples.
Please go to the 3d website before you make a comment like this. You would find out that you missed a few states for this camps "South region". like MD, Va, NC. This in fact is the toughest week. So if you are from LI your playing every stud and holdback from these three states. Now go to the website and look who LI will be competing against next week?
First things first I emphasized the weaker states for a reason. LI will be competing against PA, New [lacrosse], and LI, DE, and NJ. Would you compare these areas to the south. It's not football. The states I mentioned lacrosse is relatively a new sport. The states LI are competing against have long histories in the sport. It's just fact. And I did go to the 3D website. I find it interesting that so many LI players don't go down during their region tryout to avoid LI competition.
Sitting in LarryMiller airport after a weekend of 3d lacrosse. You must remember that there is no allocation of spots form each region. The National Evaluators will pick the best of all of the regions combined. 3d has this system down. They can evaluate over 5 weekends and pick the out those 5 weekends. Just because a kid dominates in a "weaker" region doesn't mean he will make the national cut. That said, talent level in the South region was very high in this age group. New sport or not, there are very good athletes from down south who can handle a stick.
How many 2018's went down to 3D Blue Chip this weekend to compete in the South region.
Would LI players like to compete against AL,FL,GA,LA,TN,MS for a spot on Jake Reed. Of course they would. Think about the lack of competition. Sorry its just facts. If you cant compare them sisde by side with Mid Atlantic region which will be stacked then very tough to compare apples to apples.
Please go to the 3d website before you make a comment like this. You would find out that you missed a few states for this camps "South region". like MD, Va, NC. This in fact is the toughest week. So if you are from LI your playing every stud and holdback from these three states. Now go to the website and look who LI will be competing against next week?
First things first I emphasized the weaker states for a reason. LI will be competing against PA, New [lacrosse], and LI, DE, and NJ. Would you compare these areas to the south. It's not football. The states I mentioned lacrosse is relatively a new sport. The states LI are competing against have long histories in the sport. It's just fact. And I did go to the 3D website. I find it interesting that so many LI players don't go down during their region tryout to avoid LI competition.
So the top LI Kids are going down to compete against Kids they have seen and beat regularly in local tournaments? And not compete against the "other" hot bed MD kids?
I saw 6-7 2018 Express players at 3D. They were solid players, but they certainly did not dominate the "weak" southern competition.
How many 2018's went down to 3D Blue Chip this weekend to compete in the South region.
Would LI players like to compete against AL,FL,GA,LA,TN,MS for a spot on Jake Reed. Of course they would. Think about the lack of competition. Sorry its just facts. If you cant compare them sisde by side with Mid Atlantic region which will be stacked then very tough to compare apples to apples.
Please go to the 3d website before you make a comment like this. You would find out that you missed a few states for this camps "South region". like MD, Va, NC. This in fact is the toughest week. So if you are from LI your playing every stud and holdback from these three states. Now go to the website and look who LI will be competing against next week?
First things first I emphasized the weaker states for a reason. LI will be competing against PA, New [lacrosse], and LI, DE, and NJ. Would you compare these areas to the south. It's not football. The states I mentioned lacrosse is relatively a new sport. The states LI are competing against have long histories in the sport. It's just fact. And I did go to the 3D website. I find it interesting that so many LI players don't go down during their region tryout to avoid LI competition.
So the top LI Kids are going down to compete against Kids they have seen and beat regularly in local tournaments? And not compete against the "other" hot bed MD kids?
My son was assigned to the North East vs Mid Atlantic. No ducking just assigned. Would prefer to be there with LI competition and not on Super Bowl weekend.
Not every kid from NY is better than every kid from down south. The LI Express FOGO played really really well. The other Express players blended in. I was surprised to see so many Express, but glad they were there.
Don't forget there were MD Crabs and the VA kids are really DC suburb Madlax/VLC etc...
My guess is that this was probably the 2nd strongest weekend.
Several standout players not from NY and not all older holdbacks either
Not every kid from NY is better than every kid from down south. The LI Express FOGO played really really well. The other Express players blended in. I was surprised to see so many Express, but glad they were there.
Don't forget there were MD Crabs and the VA kids are really DC suburb Madlax/VLC etc...
My guess is that this was probably the 2nd strongest weekend.
Several standout players not from NY and not all older holdbacks either
Please don't take it as I am saying there are not good players down south. There are a ton of great athletes down there but their choice of sport has not been lacrosse as it has been for generations on the North East. It's just the talent pool isn't as deep in the south. So if your a LI kid at the south regional you have let's say a 70% chance of going vs a weaker player so you look better. In the Mid Atlantic you have only a 20% chance of going against a weak player. It's that simple. You brought up the Express FOGO he didn't have to go against the Extremes face off guys and fl$ guy. Not a knock but how did he do against them when they played at Mitchell Field. I was there and saw the games. Please tell me what you saw.
I see that some were assigned to different regions and I can assume it's because the position was full as you can see on the 3D website.
How many 2018's went down to 3D Blue Chip this weekend to compete in the South region.
Would LI players like to compete against AL,FL,GA,LA,TN,MS for a spot on Jake Reed. Of course they would. Think about the lack of competition. Sorry its just facts. If you cant compare them sisde by side with Mid Atlantic region which will be stacked then very tough to compare apples to apples.
Please go to the 3d website before you make a comment like this. You would find out that you missed a few states for this camps "South region". like MD, Va, NC. This in fact is the toughest week. So if you are from LI your playing every stud and holdback from these three states. Now go to the website and look who LI will be competing against next week?
First things first I emphasized the weaker states for a reason. LI will be competing against PA, New [lacrosse], and LI, DE, and NJ. Would you compare these areas to the south. It's not football. The states I mentioned lacrosse is relatively a new sport. The states LI are competing against have long histories in the sport. It's just fact. And I did go to the 3D website. I find it interesting that so many LI players don't go down during their region tryout to avoid LI competition.
So the top LI Kids are going down to compete against Kids they have seen and beat regularly in local tournaments? And not compete against the "other" hot bed MD kids?
This isnt a team event. Its an individual event. Weaker players on some of the elite teams cant be hidden because they touch the field only when their team is up. Its facts. So why wouldnt you want to compete against the best from your region. The best players from the other regions will make their teams and then you play them. So you would face the best regardless but it easier to make the team in other regionss. If your a good player from LI but not the best you can shine vs some of the weaker players in other regions. Its a tough task for the evaluators. Wouldnt want to be in their shoes.
Okay, 600 kids across 5 regions only the top 120 make it to Jake Reed.
How many do you think will come from each region? Do you really think all the other regions are horrible? are 80-90% going to come from MId Atlantic
FOGO is the position where the hot beds excel significantly. To reach top level requires skill specific coaching which is hard to find outside the hot beds. At all other position I find it highly doubtful a single region out paces the others. This is an athletes game and there are athletes everywhere. LI does not have a monopoly on athleticism.
You also need to double check which states are in the region - It is not like there were a lot of Mississippi and Louisiana kids in the South - It was a lot of MD, VA, FL
I will concede Mid Atlantic is probably the top, my guess is Jake will be:
25% Mid Atlantic
20% South
20% North East
17.5% Midwest
17.5% West
Okay, 600 kids across 5 regions only the top 120 make it to Jake Reed.
How many do you think will come from each region? Do you really think all the other regions are horrible? are 80-90% going to come from MId Atlantic
FOGO is the position where the hot beds excel significantly. To reach top level requires skill specific coaching which is hard to find outside the hot beds. At all other position I find it highly doubtful a single region out paces the others. This is an athletes game and there are athletes everywhere. LI does not have a monopoly on athleticism.
You also need to double check which states are in the region - It is not like there were a lot of Mississippi and Louisiana kids in the South - It was a lot of MD, VA, FL
I will concede Mid Atlantic is probably the top, my guess is Jake will be:
25% Mid Atlantic
20% South
20% North East
17.5% Midwest
17.5% West
the level of competition in some of the states that are in the South region is nowhere near as good as the mid-atlantic region.yes the number of kids that would be selected from Florida, Maryland and Virginia will be much greater. you just have the opportunity to play against weaker competition in the southern region so you may look better than you would playing in mid Atlantic.
Okay, 600 kids across 5 regions only the top 120 make it to Jake Reed.
How many do you think will come from each region? Do you really think all the other regions are horrible? are 80-90% going to come from MId Atlantic
FOGO is the position where the hot beds excel significantly. To reach top level requires skill specific coaching which is hard to find outside the hot beds. At all other position I find it highly doubtful a single region out paces the others. This is an athletes game and there are athletes everywhere. LI does not have a monopoly on athleticism.
You also need to double check which states are in the region - It is not like there were a lot of Mississippi and Louisiana kids in the South - It was a lot of MD, VA, FL
I will concede Mid Atlantic is probably the top, my guess is Jake will be:
25% Mid Atlantic
20% South
20% North East
17.5% Midwest
17.5% West
Wow. That's a lot of effort to just make stuff up!
Okay, 600 kids across 5 regions only the top 120 make it to Jake Reed.
How many do you think will come from each region? Do you really think all the other regions are horrible? are 80-90% going to come from MId Atlantic
FOGO is the position where the hot beds excel significantly. To reach top level requires skill specific coaching which is hard to find outside the hot beds. At all other position I find it highly doubtful a single region out paces the others. This is an athletes game and there are athletes everywhere. LI does not have a monopoly on athleticism.
You also need to double check which states are in the region - It is not like there were a lot of Mississippi and Louisiana kids in the South - It was a lot of MD, VA, FL
I will concede Mid Atlantic is probably the top, my guess is Jake will be:
25% Mid Atlantic
20% South
20% North East
17.5% Midwest
17.5% West
2018 parents. Just a warning of advice. My 2017 son went to 3D Mid-Atlantic and was one of the 120 kids that made and played in Jake Reed during the summer. 3D Blue Chip was a good experience as was Jake Reed. It was a good experience because (1) it was fund for my kid (2) it gave him and his parents a chance to generally see where he stacked up and (3) it gave him some experience in a "showcase" situation which is invaluable as they enter their freshman year's as playing in showcases is very different than playing on their club teams and getting used to them helps a kid be more prepared for the next one. At Jake Reed last summer, there were very few college coaches because of IMCLA's guidance to stay away until they are officially in H.S. What I have learned since. Jake Reed for rosining freshman does help some of the boys "get on the radar" of college coaches. But Jake Reed is becoming more diluted in the 9/10/11th grades as they take 240 kids (not like ONLY 120 in the rising freshman year) and coach perception is that Jake Reed is being diluted. It still matters to get a direct (rather than having to make it there through the 3D camps) as a 9/10/11th grade but Maverick is without a doubt the most important showcase in the summer (over Jake Reed) and Philly Individual Showcase has become the most important in the Fall for freshman, Additionally, Fall tournaments if you play on a high caliber club team are critical and prospect days have become more and more important. Punchline is that Jake Reed is not the be all and end all and in fact has become diluted in the eyes of the coaches so don't fret too much over it. This is coming from a parent whose kid has made it 2 years in a row (current 2017).
Not a lot of effort, and I agree my #'s at the bottom are made up. But I am trying to understand from the LI parents how many of the Jake Reed 120 they think will come from LI? is the rest of the country throwing money away when they sign up for 3d? If that is the case it should be discussed here.
Are we to expect that for Jake Reed 20 each from 91,Express and Team LI? Leaving only 60 spots for every other boy to compete for?
Okay, 600 kids across 5 regions only the top 120 make it to Jake Reed.
How many do you think will come from each region? Do you really think all the other regions are horrible? are 80-90% going to come from MId Atlantic
FOGO is the position where the hot beds excel significantly. To reach top level requires skill specific coaching which is hard to find outside the hot beds. At all other position I find it highly doubtful a single region out paces the others. This is an athletes game and there are athletes everywhere. LI does not have a monopoly on athleticism.
You also need to double check which states are in the region - It is not like there were a lot of Mississippi and Louisiana kids in the South - It was a lot of MD, VA, FL
I will concede Mid Atlantic is probably the top, my guess is Jake will be:
25% Mid Atlantic
20% South
20% North East
17.5% Midwest
17.5% West
Wow. That's a lot of effort to just make stuff up!
2018 parents. Just a warning of advice. My 2017 son went to 3D Mid-Atlantic and was one of the 120 kids that made and played in Jake Reed during the summer. 3D Blue Chip was a good experience as was Jake Reed. It was a good experience because (1) it was fund for my kid (2) it gave him and his parents a chance to generally see where he stacked up and (3) it gave him some experience in a "showcase" situation which is invaluable as they enter their freshman year's as playing in showcases is very different than playing on their club teams and getting used to them helps a kid be more prepared for the next one. At Jake Reed last summer, there were very few college coaches because of IMCLA's guidance to stay away until they are officially in H.S. What I have learned since. Jake Reed for rosining freshman does help some of the boys "get on the radar" of college coaches. But Jake Reed is becoming more diluted in the 9/10/11th grades as they take 240 kids (not like ONLY 120 in the rising freshman year) and coach perception is that Jake Reed is being diluted. It still matters to get a direct (rather than having to make it there through the 3D camps) as a 9/10/11th grade but Maverick is without a doubt the most important showcase in the summer (over Jake Reed) and Philly Individual Showcase has become the most important in the Fall for freshman, Additionally, Fall tournaments if you play on a high caliber club team are critical and prospect days have become more and more important. Punchline is that Jake Reed is not the be all and end all and in fact has become diluted in the eyes of the coaches so don't fret too much over it. This is coming from a parent whose kid has made it 2 years in a row (current 2017).
great post and I hope everybody reads this carefully, my son (2015) went to 3D as a rising 10th grader and made it to Jake Reed, both camps were good but at Jake Reed I felt only the top of the top schools were represented (IVY, ACC, ND, Hopkins ect.) and not a lot of other schools, I realize that the time line has changed dramatically since then but from what I have seen it looks like prospect days are the single most important thing followed by Individual camps and then tournaments.
great post and I hope everybody reads this carefully, my son (2015) went to 3D as a rising 10th grader and made it to Jake Reed, both camps were good but at Jake Reed I felt only the top of the top schools were represented (IVY, ACC, ND, Hopkins ect.) and not a lot of other schools, I realize that the time line has changed dramatically since then but from what I have seen it looks like prospect days are the single most important thing followed by Individual camps and then tournaments.
Confused. If you are at what is truly a top tier event, shouldn't be on the radar of the schools you mention? Were you expecting NEC, A-Sun and some D2's? I would think that if those are your targets you should attend showcases geared toward that group.
great post and I hope everybody reads this carefully, my son (2015) went to 3D as a rising 10th grader and made it to Jake Reed, both camps were good but at Jake Reed I felt only the top of the top schools were represented (IVY, ACC, ND, Hopkins ect.) and not a lot of other schools, I realize that the time line has changed dramatically since then but from what I have seen it looks like prospect days are the single most important thing followed by Individual camps and then tournaments.
Confused. If you are at what is truly a top tier event, shouldn't be on the radar of the schools you mention? Were you expecting NEC, A-Sun and some D2's? I would think that if those are your targets you should attend showcases geared toward that group.
At Maverik you had every D1 school in the nation not JUST to ACC and IVY schools, some of the better academic schools are not the best fit for some kids
accroding to Jake Reed, it doesn't matter what region, it is soley base on individual performance.
How many 2018's went down to 3D Blue Chip this weekend to compete in the South region.
Would LI players like to compete against AL,FL,GA,LA,TN,MS for a spot on Jake Reed. Of course they would. Think about the lack of competition. Sorry its just facts. If you cant compare them sisde by side with Mid Atlantic region which will be stacked then very tough to compare apples to apples.
Can't speak for everyone, but my son went this last weekend because that was the date that was sent in the invite. Honestly, we would have gone to any of the dates (happy to get invited), but would have preferred the LI event because we know the level of competition...Going up against the MD boys (and some others that were 15 years old and outweighed mine by 40 pounds) was no picnic.
This isn't meant to address the reclass issue which has been played out a million times, but for all those that think the rest of the south can't play, you are wrong. For those that think we chose which dates we would attend because we wanted to go against weak competition, you are also wrong, at least in my case...
Note to the person commenting on express FOGO above, I watched that FOGO play at Mitchell field and all over at dozens of games over the years. I thought he won more than he lost, as he generally does against the top guys. We didn't play fl$ that day; we played extreme, team LI, 365 and Dukes and lost all those games.
If that kid is not the best (always going to be someone that is better, and faster and bigger), he is as good as any other and in my experience, has beaten all comp more than he has lost...
Can't speak for everyone, but my son went this last weekend because that was the date that was sent in the invite. Honestly, we would have gone to any of the dates (happy to get invited), but would have preferred the LI event because we know the level of competition...Going up against the MD boys (and some others that were 15 years old and outweighed mine by 40 pounds) was no picnic.
This isn't meant to address the reclass issue which has been played out a million times, but for all those that think the rest of the south can't play, you are wrong. For those that think we chose which dates we would attend because we wanted to go against weak competition, you are also wrong, at least in my case...
Note to the person commenting on express FOGO above, I watched that FOGO play at Mitchell field and all over at dozens of games over the years. I thought he won more than he lost, as he generally does against the top guys. We didn't play fl$ that day; we played extreme, team LI, 365 and Dukes and lost all those games.
If that kid is not the best (always going to be someone that is better, and faster and bigger), he is as good as any other and in my experience, has beaten all comp more than he has lost...
Nicely said.. we go down this week, looking forward to it, and yes, we did not choose this weekend, in fact, we had received invites for both the Mid-Atlantic and the Northeast. I just want my son to have some great opportunities and the chance to play and compete with the best.
For those of you with kids in 8th grade, when did they start working out in the gym for strength training? Was it manual resistance/body weight only at first? When did they progress to using weights? Just curious as to when some of these elite kids started to work out. Thanks
For those of you with kids in 8th grade, when did they start working out in the gym for strength training? Was it manual resistance/body weight only at first? When did they progress to using weights? Just curious as to when some of these elite kids started to work out. Thanks
14 years old - so not yet for us or 6th grade if you are from a Maryland Prep School
I am a bit confused and am hoping someone can set me straight. 3d Blue Chip has told us that "the best 120 players per grade" will be invited to the Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip Lacrosse Camp coming out of the 5 try-out camps being conducted this winter. I have read/heard that there will be some kids invited who get "direct bids" without the need to try out. Is this true?
I am a bit confused and am hoping someone can set me straight. 3d Blue Chip has told us that "the best 120 players per grade" will be invited to the Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip Lacrosse Camp coming out of the 5 try-out camps being conducted this winter. I have read/heard that there will be some kids invited who get "direct bids" without the need to try out. Is this true?
2018's 120 kids all must go to 3D tryout to get an invitation to Jake Reed
2017,2016 and 2015 - 120 direct invites, 120 invites from 3D tryout - 240 total per grade
Thanks much for clearing that up for me.
For those of you with kids in 8th grade, when did they start working out in the gym for strength training? Was it manual resistance/body weight only at first? When did they progress to using weights? Just curious as to when some of these elite kids started to work out. Thanks
Get them training with the right people, do your homework. Speed and agility come from strength. Not cones and ladders. If the muscles are not strong enough to handle the load, the speed will not come, nor will the ability to cut. A balanced strength program is the only way to go. Can't start them off with the old school benching and squatting.
U can start doing weight training as early as 9 yrs old. If it's done right with precision form it will help your kids tremendously. American board of pediatrics states it's a myth of weight training stunting growth. They say it helps strengthening bones and truly helps their minds too. It also helps prevent injury. My son is 12 and has been doing it for 3 yrs on and off and it has helped his acceleration and he is strong for his size.
Stack cards 52 or the Hershel Walker way is the best for those just entering into the teen years or pre teen (it is best to find a good trainer so you are not the bad guy. trust me, it helps the family dynamic also). Then by 15 you will know if a full out work out strength training regimen is best. but you need to know your child and what works best because it is not a cookie cutter thing to enter into.
like everything there are physical and emotional sides of it.
For those of you with kids in 8th grade, when did they start working out in the gym for strength training? Was it manual resistance/body weight only at first? When did they progress to using weights? Just curious as to when some of these elite kids started to work out. Thanks
Get them training with the right people, do your homework. Speed and agility come from strength. Not cones and ladders. If the muscles are not strong enough to handle the load, the speed will not come, nor will the ability to cut. A balanced strength program is the only way to go. Can't start them off with the old school benching and squatting.
Back to 3D - my son never received an invitation, we never pursued an invitation nor applied to 3D and we have no interest in going to 3D yet I just received an e-mail "last Chance" to register for 3D, this is the first time we have heard from them.
Anybody that missed out and is dying to spend 2 grand for 3 days in the Florida sun I would contact 3D and try and get in. They are obviously looking to fill the Super Bowl weekend.
I think including Superbowl weekend was a bad choice by 3d.
I will tell you however that in each grade your last game is either at 1pm, 2pm or 3pm and lasts for one hour. You do not need to miss the Seahawks/Broncos - this is the northeast region weekend so good thing the Pats didn't make it
Overall this was a great skills camp. The six hours of practice included a lot of reps and constant stops for add'l coaching. Friday turned into a long day leaving the field after 9pm. Position training at 3:30pm is listed as optional, my son got a lot out of it, I recommend attending.
I also recommend that during practices you park as close to the entrance as possible and back your car into the spot (makes leaving much easier - everyone leaves at the same time). Once games begin there are less people at the fields with big gaps between games so parking is easier
we leave tonight, any other tips, should the parent stay the entire time, how was the weather, etc.
I think including Superbowl weekend was a bad choice by 3d.
I will tell you however that in each grade your last game is either at 1pm, 2pm or 3pm and lasts for one hour. You do not need to miss the Seahawks/Broncos - this is the northeast region weekend so good thing the Pats didn't make it
Overall this was a great skills camp. The six hours of practice included a lot of reps and constant stops for add'l coaching. Friday turned into a long day leaving the field after 9pm. Position training at 3:30pm is listed as optional, my son got a lot out of it, I recommend attending.
I also recommend that during practices you park as close to the entrance as possible and back your car into the spot (makes leaving much easier - everyone leaves at the same time). Once games begin there are less people at the fields with big gaps between games so parking is easier
Last weekend was definitely cold. Especially at night. Check the forecast and bring appropriate dress. Most boys wore sweats for Saturday night games. My son played until 9pm both Friday and Saturday night.
Expect a tired boy on Saturday morning after late practice Friday night. Some people skipped the recruiting seminar to allow their boy to sleep in. The parking at the hotel main building is inadequate.
It seemed that nearly all parents stayed. Bring a chair if you want one. Not a lot of stuff nearby, the main hotel is 15-20 minutes from the field.
I also recommend stopping at a gas station and bringing your own water since the water at the field is not very accessible (120 boys taking a break at the same time).
we leave tonight, any other tips, should the parent stay the entire time, how was the weather, etc.
Here are my thoughts.
Weather was cold at times -- especially at night or when cloudy. Check the forecast and do not assume it is Florida and warm. Boys will be fine because they will be playing, but the cold warning is more about spectators. I packed poorly.
I would say most parents stayed for every session, but it is not necessary. I watched a lot because I coach and was interested in the 3D approach, which I liked a lot. You likely will want to watch the games.
The 3D system/approach is taught and sold throughout the camp. Individual or selfish play is not rewarded.
Map out a schedule for food for your son. The sessions/games fall during meal times, so you want to make sure your son is fed and hydrated.
What I thought was interesting was the offensive schemes were largely set up to create isolation plays (either from the top or at x)
This allowed both the ball carrier and defender to showcase their skill/athleticism. The better players after beating their initial man usually made the right choice whether to shoot or pass based on what they saw. The athletic but low lax IQ players usually beat the 1st defender, but then turned the ball over with a poorly thought out shot or ill timed passed.
This play calling setup a lot of opportunity for evaluation. The coaches I am sure wanted to win, but stuck to the prescribed game plan
Officials kept their flags in their pockets unless an egregious fouls occurred - this helped maximize playtime
Although I am sure it was unintentional, the teams were not all evenly matched. The officials helped out in this case too. In one particular game my boys’ team held the ball most of the game. During the last ten minutes it seemed that every time we caused a turnover a hold was called. Normally I would complain, but this allowed for more reps for our defenders and for the other team’s attack.
It was also very strange to see the parents so quiet on the sidelines, my first experience at an individual showcase and it was great to see the dads hold themselves in check and not ruining things for their sons.
Last weekend was definitely cold. Especially at night. Check the forecast and bring appropriate dress. Most boys wore sweats for Saturday night games. My son played until 9pm both Friday and Saturday night.
Expect a tired boy on Saturday morning after late practice Friday night. Some people skipped the recruiting seminar to allow their boy to sleep in. The parking at the hotel main building is inadequate.
It seemed that nearly all parents stayed. Bring a chair if you want one. Not a lot of stuff nearby, the main hotel is 15-20 minutes from the field.
I also recommend stopping at a gas station and bringing your own water since the water at the field is not very accessible (120 boys taking a break at the same time).
we leave tonight, any other tips, should the parent stay the entire time, how was the weather, etc.
Love the advise....Thank you!!
How do you get the invite? High School ball? Club play? Other showcase?
Now that the boys are back from 3D Blue Chip. What are people's opinions and how did the LI boys do in the Mid Atlantic Region tryout.
How do you get the invite? High School ball? Club play? Other showcase?
Yes, Yes and No - you need to have someone with a contact to recommend you
Now that the boys are back from 3D Blue Chip. What are people's opinions and how did the LI boys do in the Mid Atlantic Region tryout.
Here is a review of how some of the locals played this weekend:
Ryan Schaeffer, A, Bellport (N.Y.) / LI Jesters / #209
Schaeffer was one of the more skilled attackmen over the last two camps, generating a ton of points for his squad. Could move well without the ball and carry while making excellent decisions, finishing many of his shots after separating turning the corner or from the outside. Did a nice job riding too.
Nick Filipelli, M, Chaminade (N.Y.) / fl$ / #158
Liked this two-way athlete, especially the way he surveyed the field from his spot up top, constantly looking for cutting teammates or using a split or rollback to get his hands free for a shot. Have to also give a shoutout to teammate and high school rival Keller Jacobs (St. Anthony's, N.Y.) for some nice plays throughout the two days of games.
Lucas Capobianco-Hogan, LSM/D, Mt. Sinai (N.Y.) / Tenacious Turtles / #137
While he'll need to work on his foot speed to match up with athletic attackmen, I like the upside on the Long Island D guy. His size is excellent, the tenacity he shows when staying all over hands is impressive and his off-ball work is steady. With some polish, he'll be recruit that is very much in demand a year or so from now.
Jensen Corabi, M, Half Hollow Hills West (N.Y.) / Team 91
A strong outside shooter, Corabi went to the rack hard all weekend, unleashing an accurate shot and showing great play between the lines. He's rather small height-wise and needs to bulk up but I was impressed with him nonetheless.
Jason Intermesoli, A, Sayville (N.Y.) / Team LI / #180
Given his ability to catch and finish virtually everything, I'm fully convinced that Intermesoli must have some sort of Canadian in him. Paired with Munro's feeds, the offense of the Spencer Ford-coached squad was outstanding. The kid showed flashes of dodging but has a really good stick around the crease, a quality that recruiters will eat up.
Sean Kuttin, M, St. James (N.Y.) / Team 91 / #166
I'd received a text from a source on Long Island about the prowess of Kuttin (who will attend Chaminade next year, I'm told) and those expectations were surpassed. A super-skilled dodger, Kuttin gave the opposition fits with some excellent plays and a fantastic lacrosse IQ for his age. Also possesses a great burst of speed, a wiggle in his step when beating his man and some nifty fakes.
Thanks for the info. But Cuttin is the only 2018. Since this is 2018 thread how did the other boys do.
Any other LI boys that impressed? Goalies or D?
Looks like 3 other 91 extreme boys where mentioned as well.
Thanks for the info. But Cuttin is the only 2018. Since this is 2018 thread how did the other boys do.
Read the write up from insidelacrosse magazine. Many LI boys got mentioned.
Looks like 3 other 91 extreme boys where mentioned as well.
There are two more from 91 Extreme a D man and a Mid that should have been mentioned. Should have been a total of 6 Extreme players. Also a fl$ Face Off/Mid, another fl$ Mid, and a Legacy goalie that all played really well from LI.
Thanks for the info. But Cuttin is the only 2018. Since this is 2018 thread how did the other boys do.
Read the write up from insidelacrosse magazine. Many LI boys got mentioned.
Kuttin is the only 2018. The rest are from other years. This is the 2018 thread to discuss the 2018 players. He played really well even though his team was pretty bad and lost every game.
The IL articla should be taken with a grain of salt.
The author is borderline apologetic in his writing at the beginning of the mid atlantic article. I wonder if he received feedback after posting the south article? "Please keep in mind that the observations below are mine alone, switching between three fields all weekend, and I have no influence over who gets invited."
I perceived a bias in his writing towards kids from well know clubs in his area (kids he already knew). I also noted a couple of boys who spent a somewhat recent season on 2017 squads. Not sure if they are reclassified or had historically played up.
Thanks for the info. But Cuttin is the only 2018. Since this is 2018 thread how did the other boys do.
Read the write up from insidelacrosse magazine. Many LI boys got mentioned.
Kuttin is the only 2018. The rest are from other years. This is the 2018 thread to discuss the 2018 players. He played really well even though his team was pretty bad and lost every game.
Boys named in inside lacrosse 2018 Mid-Atlantic:
S Kuttin (Team 91)
B Brosnahan (Express Terps)
Tommy Rooney (Team 91)
J Ginder (Team 91)
F Marinello (Team 91)
Thanks for the info. But Cuttin is the only 2018. Since this is 2018 thread how did the other boys do.
Read the write up from insidelacrosse magazine. Many LI boys got mentioned.
Kuttin is the only 2018. The rest are from other years. This is the 2018 thread to discuss the 2018 players. He played really well even though his team was pretty bad and lost every game.
Boys named in inside lacrosse 2018 Mid-Atlantic:
S Kuttin (Team 91)
B Brosnahan (Express Terps)
Tommy Rooney (Team 91)
J Ginder (Team 91)
F Marinello (Team 91)
Didn't see Brandon mentioned until now. Good for him he played really well.
Thanks for the info. But Cuttin is the only 2018. Since this is 2018 thread how did the other boys do.
Read the write up from insidelacrosse magazine. Many LI boys got mentioned.
Kuttin is the only 2018. The rest are from other years. This is the 2018 thread to discuss the 2018 players. He played really well even though his team was pretty bad and lost every game.
Boys named in inside lacrosse 2018 Mid-Atlantic:
S Kuttin (Team 91)
B Brosnahan (Express Terps)
Tommy Rooney (Team 91)
J Ginder (Team 91)
F Marinello (Team 91)
Just to be clear, only Kuttin was written up. The others recieved "mentions", not the same thing. The goal is to be one of the kids actually listed in bold as a stand out. the other kids need to work a little harder, maybe next time they will see their names in bold!
I thought the goal was two fold:
-learn something as the 3d coaching was excellent
-prove yourself against peers and try to earn a trip to Jake Reed
I had no idea the goal was to get on this IL blogger's radar. Have you read what he wrote? Most of the quickly jotted forum posts and assorted rants we read on BOTC are more eloquently written and make better use of grammar than the IL author and editors.
Thanks for the info. But Cuttin is the only 2018. Since this is 2018 thread how did the other boys do.
Read the write up from insidelacrosse magazine. Many LI boys got mentioned.
Kuttin is the only 2018. The rest are from other years. This is the 2018 thread to discuss the 2018 players. He played really well even though his team was pretty bad and lost every game.
Boys named in inside lacrosse 2018 Mid-Atlantic:
S Kuttin (Team 91)
B Brosnahan (Express Terps)
Tommy Rooney (Team 91)
J Ginder (Team 91)
F Marinello (Team 91)
Just to be clear, only Kuttin was written up. The others recieved "mentions", not the same thing. The goal is to be one of the kids actually listed in bold as a stand out. the other kids need to work a little harder, maybe next time they will see their names in bold!
Brosnahan did not get a mention he was in the write up too.
Charlie Cordisco, LSM/D, Kennett Square (Pa.) / Dukes HHH / #140
The athletic LSM made a big impact when he was on the field, roaming with an active stick and sound footwork. Did a nice job shadowing his man 1-on-1 and simply made plays. Teammate Brandon Brosnahan (Syosset, N.Y. / LI Express Terps) also impressed down on close D with his motor, size and stick work.
Yes, i know, he wasn't the highlighted but if you go by your statement, he did get written too.
I thought the goal was two fold:
-learn something as the 3d coaching was excellent
-prove yourself against peers and try to earn a trip to Jake Reed
I had no idea the goal was to get on this IL blogger's radar. Have you read what he wrote? Most of the quickly jotted forum posts and assorted rants we read on BOTC are more eloquently written and make better use of grammar than the IL author and editors.
Ty Xander is the king of Hs lax. When he writes you up college coaches take notice!
Thanks for the info. But Cuttin is the only 2018. Since this is 2018 thread how did the other boys do.
Read the write up from insidelacrosse magazine. Many LI boys got mentioned.
Kuttin is the only 2018. The rest are from other years. This is the 2018 thread to discuss the 2018 players. He played really well even though his team was pretty bad and lost every game.
Boys named in inside lacrosse 2018 Mid-Atlantic:
S Kuttin (Team 91)
B Brosnahan (Express Terps)
Tommy Rooney (Team 91)
J Ginder (Team 91)
F Marinello (Team 91)
Just to be clear, only Kuttin was written up. The others recieved "mentions", not the same thing. The goal is to be one of the kids actually listed in bold as a stand out. the other kids need to work a little harder, maybe next time they will see their names in bold!
Who's goal is it to be written up? Yours? I feel bad for your kid, If you are the one setting HIS goals. Is it so hard for you to give those kids any credit who got "mentioned"? What an embarrassment right? What a bunch of 13/14 year old losers! They should be ashamed of themselves! Does writing that actually make you feel better about yourself or your own kid? Some of you people are truly out of you minds! BTW How do you know how hard they worked? Congrats to the boys who were "mentioned" and the boys who weren't, but worked their asses off to get there!
Thanks for the info. But Cuttin is the only 2018. Since this is 2018 thread how did the other boys do.
Read the write up from insidelacrosse magazine. Many LI boys got mentioned.
Kuttin is the only 2018. The rest are from other years. This is the 2018 thread to discuss the 2018 players. He played really well even though his team was pretty bad and lost every game.
Boys named in inside lacrosse 2018 Mid-Atlantic:
S Kuttin (Team 91)
B Brosnahan (Express Terps)
Tommy Rooney (Team 91)
J Ginder (Team 91)
F Marinello (Team 91)
Just to be clear, only Kuttin was written up. The others recieved "mentions", not the same thing. The goal is to be one of the kids actually listed in bold as a stand out. the other kids need to work a little harder, maybe next time they will see their names in bold!
You sir/ma'am sum up about evrything wrong with youth sports Are you the same person that sent IL a text? gimme a break if the goal was to type moronic comments well yours should be put in bold
I thought the goal was two fold:
-learn something as the 3d coaching was excellent
-prove yourself against peers and try to earn a trip to Jake Reed
I had no idea the goal was to get on this IL blogger's radar. Have you read what he wrote? Most of the quickly jotted forum posts and assorted rants we read on BOTC are more eloquently written and make better use of grammar than the IL author and editors.
No. The Goal is to make the top 125 and get the invite to Jake Reed.
Being mentioned is obviously nice but not the ultimate goal of the camp.
For most, the ultimate goal I assume it is to get the Jake Reed invite. That was my sons goal but after 2 days of the camp, we agreed, the experience was well worth it even if he didn't get the invite.
Overall a great camp and experience.
how many games did Ty Xander actully watch at the 2018 level since all games for the 3 age groups were going on at the same time. seems to be a case of playing at the right time for a quick look by mr Xander
Thanks for the info. But Cuttin is the only 2018. Since this is 2018 thread how did the other boys do.
Read the write up from insidelacrosse magazine. Many LI boys got mentioned.
Kuttin is the only 2018. The rest are from other years. This is the 2018 thread to discuss the 2018 players. He played really well even though his team was pretty bad and lost every game.
Boys named in inside lacrosse 2018 Mid-Atlantic:
S Kuttin (Team 91)
B Brosnahan (Express Terps)
Tommy Rooney (Team 91)
J Ginder (Team 91)
F Marinello (Team 91)
Just to be clear, only Kuttin was written up. The others recieved "mentions", not the same thing. The goal is to be one of the kids actually listed in bold as a stand out. the other kids need to work a little harder, maybe next time they will see their names in bold!
You sir/ma'am sum up about evrything wrong with youth sports Are you the same person that sent IL a text? gimme a break if the goal was to type moronic comments well yours should be put in bold
I disagree. I believe you are everything wrong with youth sports and youth in general. Everyone is not special, and everyone does not deserve a medal. Deal with it!
Thanks for the info. But Cuttin is the only 2018. Since this is 2018 thread how did the other boys do.
Read the write up from insidelacrosse magazine. Many LI boys got mentioned.
Kuttin is the only 2018. The rest are from other years. This is the 2018 thread to discuss the 2018 players. He played really well even though his team was pretty bad and lost every game.
Boys named in inside lacrosse 2018 Mid-Atlantic:
S Kuttin (Team 91)
B Brosnahan (Express Terps)
Tommy Rooney (Team 91)
J Ginder (Team 91)
F Marinello (Team 91)
Just to be clear, only Kuttin was written up. The others recieved "mentions", not the same thing. The goal is to be one of the kids actually listed in bold as a stand out. the other kids need to work a little harder, maybe next time they will see their names in bold!
Brosnahan did not get a mention he was in the write up too.
Charlie Cordisco, LSM/D, Kennett Square (Pa.) / Dukes HHH / #140
The athletic LSM made a big impact when he was on the field, roaming with an active stick and sound footwork. Did a nice job shadowing his man 1-on-1 and simply made plays. Teammate Brandon Brosnahan (Syosset, N.Y. / LI Express Terps) also impressed down on close D with his motor, size and stick work.
Yes, i know, he wasn't the highlighted but if you go by your statement, he did get written too.
That was nice, but the goal is to be in bold!! He was mentioned in someone else' s write up. Still nice!
Really. Whether it was a write up of a kid or a kid was made mention of. Let's be happy for those kids that were able to standout amongst the best competition. That fact that anybody would lessen something that is a positive is sad. Can you all talk about the experience overall - so those of us that what our kids to attend in the coming years know what to expect.
Just to be clear, only Kuttin was written up. The others recieved "mentions", not the same thing. The goal is to be one of the kids actually listed in bold as a stand out. the other kids need to work a little harder, maybe next time they will see their names in bold! [/quote]
You sir/ma'am sum up about evrything wrong with youth sports Are you the same person that sent IL a text? gimme a break if the goal was to type moronic comments well yours should be put in bold [/quote]
I disagree. I believe you are everything wrong with youth sports and youth in general. Everyone is not special, and everyone does not deserve a medal. Deal with it! [/quote]
I really hope he is not your kid, because you are embarrasing yourself and him...Kid is a great player by the way.
Just to be clear, only Kuttin was written up. The others recieved "mentions", not the same thing. The goal is to be one of the kids actually listed in bold as a stand out. the other kids need to work a little harder, maybe next time they will see their names in bold!
You sir/ma'am sum up about evrything wrong with youth sports Are you the same person that sent IL a text? gimme a break if the goal was to type moronic comments well yours should be put in bold [/quote]
I disagree. I believe you are everything wrong with youth sports and youth in general. Everyone is not special, and everyone does not deserve a medal. Deal with it! [/quote]
I really hope he is not your kid, because you are embarrasing yourself and him...Kid is a great player by the way. [/quote]
Yea your right. The goal is to get written up by a twenty something that NEVER played the game himself! A typical sports writer. What are his credentials to evaluate athletic talent at any level. Gotta wonder why you would be so concerned about that. And please, please, please don't fool yourselves college coaches DONT take notice of these write ups at all. They rely on their own eyes, their assistant coaches and heir close network of COACHES. I've literally seen write ups on kids that in other age groups that are 2nd string "B" players no kidding! No horse in the race here, just some facts for you all to contemplate. Facts!
I thought the goal was two fold:
-learn something as the 3d coaching was excellent
-prove yourself against peers and try to earn a trip to Jake Reed
I had no idea the goal was to get on this IL blogger's radar. Have you read what he wrote? Most of the quickly jotted forum posts and assorted rants we read on BOTC are more eloquently written and make better use of grammar than the IL author and editors.
Ty Xander is the king of Hs lax. When he writes you up college coaches take notice!
Your kidding right? College coaches know better. The only people that pay any attention to hear write ups are the kids and their goofy parents. What are his credentials to evaluate talent? Anyone know where and at what level he played or coached? Nope. Why?
First, as to the write up by Ty - understand that for 2018 the kids were divided into 6 teams and they played 4 games as did 2017 and 2016. There were always 3 games going on at the same time. Ty wrote about each class so unless he has super powers there is no way he saw every game. I hope that puts his write up into some perspective. Congrats to each of the kids that got mentioned but having watched 6 2018 games I can tell you the talent level across the board was off the charts. I saw some of the best lacrosse I have seen played at the 8th grade level. To me there were a handful of kids at top of the class who were phenomenal and a handful at the bottom who were very good but not quite there. The majority of the kids in the middle were really, really good. What was very impressive to me was the excellent passing - you just didn't see any ball hogging which surprised me for a showcase event. The training and coaching was fantastic and it was clear the kids bought into the warnings that ball hogging was the best way to insure not getting an invite.
The goal really is to be one of the kids that makes it to the summer event and I don't know how they will make those decisions as so many played well enough to make it. Whether my son is in that group or not it was well worth the trip and the $.
I thought the goal was two fold:
-learn something as the 3d coaching was excellent
-prove yourself against peers and try to earn a trip to Jake Reed
I had no idea the goal was to get on this IL blogger's radar. Have you read what he wrote? Most of the quickly jotted forum posts and assorted rants we read on BOTC are more eloquently written and make better use of grammar than the IL author and editors.
Ty Xander is the king of Hs lax. When he writes you up college coaches take notice!
Your kidding right? College coaches know better. The only people that pay any attention to hear write ups are the kids and their goofy parents. What are his credentials to evaluate talent? Anyone know where and at what level he played or coached? Nope. Why?
Amen. This guy is a joke. He only writes about kids he hears whispers about from Chanenchuk and others who want their kids written about. It's a scam and a sham. Look at the lists of recruits - just as many if not more that didn't even make this guys "watch list". Love the egg on his face everytime a new "non-lister" commits to a top 10 program. One guy can't possibly properly evaluate thousands of players across the U.S. and Canada in one grade let alone several. They should just stop this foolish stuff but they won't because even though its worthless it generates pages views and more importantly advertsing dollars from monkeys like us.
how many games did Ty Xander actully watch at the 2018 level since all games for the 3 age groups were going on at the same time. seems to be a case of playing at the right time for a quick look by mr Xander
Best case scenario, he could have ran from field to field and could have watched ~ 15 minutes of every game without eating or a bio brake which means he missed a lot more then he saw. Then again I'm sure he bought the full video for the 3 age groups and watched them all before writing.
Your write up is spot on. We attended the South event and feel the same way.
Ty does a disservice to the event with his coverage. He should of covered a single grade only. It is clear he caught only limited action and clear he had favorites/kids he already knew of and planned to watch before the event. For a blind tryout you would the think the coverage should be blind too.
First, as to the write up by Ty - understand that for 2018 the kids were divided into 6 teams and they played 4 games as did 2017 and 2016. There were always 3 games going on at the same time. Ty wrote about each class so unless he has super powers there is no way he saw every game. I hope that puts his write up into some perspective. Congrats to each of the kids that got mentioned but having watched 6 2018 games I can tell you the talent level across the board was off the charts. I saw some of the best lacrosse I have seen played at the 8th grade level. To me there were a handful of kids at top of the class who were phenomenal and a handful at the bottom who were very good but not quite there. The majority of the kids in the middle were really, really good. What was very impressive to me was the excellent passing - you just didn't see any ball hogging which surprised me for a showcase event. The training and coaching was fantastic and it was clear the kids bought into the warnings that ball hogging was the best way to insure not getting an invite.
The goal really is to be one of the kids that makes it to the summer event and I don't know how they will make those decisions as so many played well enough to make it. Whether my son is in that group or not it was well worth the trip and the $.
Can't we just be happy that so many LI boys were even mentioned. Kuttin so deserves the accolades. The fact that those other boys were noticed to be given honorable mention is also an honor. They stood out at event where it was difficult to stand out. Just like any recruiting/showcase event the coaches, evaluators, only see you at certain times and if you standout you standout if you don't you don't. To be mentioned is to be on the radar. Even if it's by a blogger who covers lacrosse. Now the final evaluation and team selection is up to those at the event. It is a difficult job and one that will receive much criticism. Oh and what's most interesting is all the ex D1 players who are parents on this and read this site can criticize the bloggers lacrosse pedigree and whst does he know. Just enjoy your kid and their successes and failures. Before you know it their off to college.
How about the fact that he wrote about/mentioned a kid (Dalton Koponen (D - St. Thomas Aquinas, Fla. / Florida Xtreme)at two events, so either that kid went to two showcases in a row or someone wasn't paying to much attention to what he himself was writing.
How about the fact that he wrote about/mentioned a kid (Dalton Koponen (D - St. Thomas Aquinas, Fla. / Florida Xtreme)at two events, so either that kid went to two showcases in a row or someone wasn't paying to much attention to what he himself was writing.
Xanders only writes about kids he hears about from club coaches and evaluators. If you want your kid written about have your club coach (not your HS coach, because he only mixes with the clubs) contact him. If your club can't make it within 100 miles of Baltimore in the Summer or Fall or isn't from a brand name club that pays for him to attend their events you can forget about your kid being mentioned. Joke.
Regardless how Ty Xanders found out about the Kuttin Kid. Kuttin still had to perform at a very high level for him to be mentioned in the article. I am sure Ty gets tips on kids all the time. He uses his experience as an evaluator of HS talent. He then chooses the kids who get written up. Its a great honor. Lets not get jealous over others success.
Regardless how Ty Xanders found out about the Kuttin Kid. Kuttin still had to perform at a very high level for him to be mentioned in the article. I am sure Ty gets tips on kids all the time. He uses his experience as an evaluator of HS talent. He then chooses the kids who get written up. Its a great honor. Lets not get jealous over others success.
Regardless how Ty Xanders found out about the Kuttin Kid. Kuttin still had to perform at a very high level for him to be mentioned in the article. I am sure Ty gets tips on kids all the time. He uses his experience as an evaluator of HS talent. He then chooses the kids who get written up. Its a great honor. Lets not get jealous over others success.
The problem that people have with this guy is the "rankings". To say a kid is # whatever in the country is absurd and the truth is that his rankings are only really within the context of the small pool of talent that he's heard about or improbably seen. But to present a kid as the "x"th best freshman, sophomore or junior h.s. player in the country is entirely misleading and an instant flashpoint for debate and criticism - which is probably his goal anyway - anything for publicity good or bad. Everybody should understand that there are hundreds if not thousands of great players across the continent that are flying way below this guy's radar because they have not had the exposure or promotion that others have had. This guy's list should maybe be renamed the best promoted list. His inacuracy is exposed every day with kids that announce commitments that flew way under his radar because nobody ever bothered to tell this guy about the kid - yet the colleges knew about the kid all along.
Get ready. Looked at Ty's 2017 list , 5/32 early verbals from LI. All big schools. Hopkins, UNC, Virgina , Maryland and Bucknell. Seems like a low amount for LI, whats going on.
You people are pathetic talking about a 14 year old kid here.
I personally know the young man and I find it hard to believe that there might be anyone out there that works harder than him. Is it that difficult for you to just tip your cap to him and say great job.
I wish nothing but the best for him as should everyone else.
Keep up the hard work!!!!!!!!!
How about the fact that he wrote about/mentioned a kid (Dalton Koponen (D - St. Thomas Aquinas, Fla. / Florida Xtreme)at two events, so either that kid went to two showcases in a row or someone wasn't paying to much attention to what he himself was writing.
Xanders only writes about kids he hears about from club coaches and evaluators. If you want your kid written about have your club coach (not your HS coach, because he only mixes with the clubs) contact him. If your club can't make it within 100 miles of Baltimore in the Summer or Fall or isn't from a brand name club that pays for him to attend their events you can forget about your kid being mentioned. Joke.
Absolutely not true! He wrote about several kids from LI last summer at Showtime and Jake Reed that were not connected to powerful clubs. He is excellent at what he does. Recognizing and describing the best lax players. And if you think that the coaches of the top D1 programs are not talking with and listening to Ty, get your head out of the sand!!
How about the fact that he wrote about/mentioned a kid (Dalton Koponen (D - St. Thomas Aquinas, Fla. / Florida Xtreme)at two events, so either that kid went to two showcases in a row or someone wasn't paying to much attention to what he himself was writing.
Xanders only writes about kids he hears about from club coaches and evaluators. If you want your kid written about have your club coach (not your HS coach, because he only mixes with the clubs) contact him. If your club can't make it within 100 miles of Baltimore in the Summer or Fall or isn't from a brand name club that pays for him to attend their events you can forget about your kid being mentioned. Joke.
Absolutely not true! He wrote about several kids from LI last summer at Showtime and Jake Reed that were not connected to powerful clubs. He is excellent at what he does. Recognizing and describing the best lax players. And if you think that the coaches of the top D1 programs are not talking with and listening to Ty, get your head out of the sand!!
You are so foolish! Or you are Ty's mom!
No d1 coaches put any validity into what he writes. It's media used to generate interest in a website. The only people that it means anything to is you and the kids. D1 coaches at the top schools I know personally, about 4 of them think it's a joke. What are his credentials to evaluate talent? He never even played , but onciously valid credentials mean nothing to you. Yes he's seen lots of games but so has my mother and she isn't qualified to evaluate talent either.
Fact, D1 coaches use their assistants, themselves and a close network of trusted former players and high school and club coaches to recommend and evaluate talent. It's too important. This is their job! That would be like believing that gm's read and listen to Rome's evaluations on players. Your head my friend is not in the sand... It's somewhere far more dangerous. Sorry to let you know his "opinions" and what really amounts to press releases on players mean NOTHING to any respected coaches out there. Just ask them if and when you visit with them! But you believe what you want, clueless. Oh yea and doctors take advise on patients from the stay at home moms that watch the medical channel right? And by the way, both my kids have been written up many times . But we've also seen him write up 2nd string b level players also. So there you go!
What happens to the late bloomer? The kid who has a real good stick and has those tools to be successful but are just too small right now? Can I get some feedback on this please?
I am quite sure your mother would be a good judge of talent if she has watched as much lacrosse as TY or you or I. It really isn't that hard. You dont have to be an all american or have played at the highest level. You need to understand sport and athletic movements and spacing. And as for the good ole boy network, you don't think they look at these articles, you my friend are living in a fantasyland. (oh yeah, and they don't want to verbal 9th graders either but since there isn't any rule against it why not).
The only thing id say is, I am sure the boys mentioned are on someone's radar. And good for them.
How about the fact that he wrote about/mentioned a kid (Dalton Koponen (D - St. Thomas Aquinas, Fla. / Florida Xtreme)at two events, so either that kid went to two showcases in a row or someone wasn't paying to much attention to what he himself was writing.
Xanders only writes about kids he hears about from club coaches and evaluators. If you want your kid written about have your club coach (not your HS coach, because he only mixes with the clubs) contact him. If your club can't make it within 100 miles of Baltimore in the Summer or Fall or isn't from a brand name club that pays for him to attend their events you can forget about your kid being mentioned. Joke.
Absolutely not true! He wrote about several kids from LI last summer at Showtime and Jake Reed that were not connected to powerful clubs. He is excellent at what he does. Recognizing and describing the best lax players. And if you think that the coaches of the top D1 programs are not talking with and listening to Ty, get your head out of the sand!!
You are so foolish! Or you are Ty's mom!
No d1 coaches put any validity into what he writes. It's media used to generate interest in a website. The only people that it means anything to is you and the kids. D1 coaches at the top schools I know personally, about 4 of them think it's a joke. What are his credentials to evaluate talent? He never even played , but onciously valid credentials mean nothing to you. Yes he's seen lots of games but so has my mother and she isn't qualified to evaluate talent either.
Fact, D1 coaches use their assistants, themselves and a close network of trusted former players and high school and club coaches to recommend and evaluate talent. It's too important. This is their job! That would be like believing that gm's read and listen to Rome's evaluations on players. Your head my friend is not in the sand... It's somewhere far more dangerous. Sorry to let you know his "opinions" and what really amounts to press releases on players mean NOTHING to any respected coaches out there. Just ask them if and when you visit with them! But you believe what you want, clueless. Oh yea and doctors take advise on patients from the stay at home moms that watch the medical channel right? And by the way, both my kids have been written up many times . But we've also seen him write up 2nd string b level players also. So there you go!
What happens to the late bloomer? The kid who has a real good stick and has those tools to be successful but are just too small right now? Can I get some feedback on this please?
They are just that a late bloomer. What are you looking to hear. He may never bloom. Really there is no right answer. My son is big for his age and hasnt even hit puberty. Is he going to be a giant, dont know. Look at your family. Is your wife tall or husband. Does the family have a few short people its possible thay might be short. It is what it is.
Late bloomers get the shaft. He is better then most of the kids but his size right now is hurting him. And by the way the doctors said he should be 5'8" to 5'10". But might not get there till he is 17 or 18. To your giant of a kid who hasn't reached puberty. That is bull.. There were many kids that towered over me in 8th grade and stopped. And big johnnie wasn't the great athlete in high school when other kids caught up. I was talking about the recruiting process. In regards to the kid who grows a little later and misses out on those top tier schools because they like that early bloomer. Oh by the way look at pannell. Late bloomer and now one of the best.
Being small doesn't eliminate you from playing D1 Lax. May be harder but there are plenty of smaller success stories:
Jimmy Bitter 5'9, 165 52 points as a sophomore NC
Joey Sankey 5'5 150 56 points as a sophomore NC
Josh Dionne 5'7 185 50 points JR - Duke
Case Matheis 5'8 160 52 points Fr - Duke
I am quite sure your mother would be a good judge of talent if she has watched as much lacrosse as TY or you or I. It really isn't that hard. You dont have to be an all american or have played at the highest level. You need to understand sport and athletic movements and spacing. And as for the good ole boy network, you don't think they look at these articles, you my friend are living in a fantasyland. (oh yeah, and they don't want to verbal 9th graders either but since there isn't any rule against it why not).
The only thing id say is, I am sure the boys mentioned are on someone's radar. And good for them.
How about the fact that he wrote about/mentioned a kid (Dalton Koponen (D - St. Thomas Aquinas, Fla. / Florida Xtreme)at two events, so either that kid went to two showcases in a row or someone wasn't paying to much attention to what he himself was writing.
Xanders only writes about kids he hears about from club coaches and evaluators. If you want your kid written about have your club coach (not your HS coach, because he only mixes with the clubs) contact him. If your club can't make it within 100 miles of Baltimore in the Summer or Fall or isn't from a brand name club that pays for him to attend their events you can forget about your kid being mentioned. Joke.
Absolutely not true! He wrote about several kids from LI last summer at Showtime and Jake Reed that were not connected to powerful clubs. He is excellent at what he does. Recognizing and describing the best lax players. And if you think that the coaches of the top D1 programs are not talking with and listening to Ty, get your head out of the sand!!
You are so foolish! Or you are Ty's mom!
No d1 coaches put any validity into what he writes. It's media used to generate interest in a website. The only people that it means anything to is you and the kids. D1 coaches at the top schools I know personally, about 4 of them think it's a joke. What are his credentials to evaluate talent? He never even played , but onciously valid credentials mean nothing to you. Yes he's seen lots of games but so has my mother and she isn't qualified to evaluate talent either.
Fact, D1 coaches use their assistants, themselves and a close network of trusted former players and high school and club coaches to recommend and evaluate talent. It's too important. This is their job! That would be like believing that gm's read and listen to Rome's evaluations on players. Your head my friend is not in the sand... It's somewhere far more dangerous. Sorry to let you know his "opinions" and what really amounts to press releases on players mean NOTHING to any respected coaches out there. Just ask them if and when you visit with them! But you believe what you want, clueless. Oh yea and doctors take advise on patients from the stay at home moms that watch the medical channel right? And by the way, both my kids have been written up many times . But we've also seen him write up 2nd string b level players also. So there you go!
Do you find it at all ironic that the kids that top Ty's lists are all committed to the best schools with probably the best scholarships? There will always be a few that slip past the radar, but you have to admit, that the majority of the kids he writes up and rank excel in HS and beyond. And as for your criticism of his credentials, do you think he really does all of the evaluating? He gets much of input strait from the mouths of the college coaches!
Thank u for that post. But when my kid is 5'3 5'4" say in tenth grade does he have a real opportunity to make it? Prob not when there will be an attackman at 5'10" and fully developed. He sees it already and works hard and is on one of the better teams at his age group but I wonder. Those early bloomers do have an advantage.
You people are pathetic talking about a 14 year old kid here.
I personally know the young man and I find it hard to believe that there might be anyone out there that works harder than him. Is it that difficult for you to just tip your cap to him and say great job.
I wish nothing but the best for him as should everyone else.
Keep up the hard work!!!!!!!!!
Ditto! You belittle what the kid has busted his butt on to accomplish.
Your kids have the next four years to be recruited. They aren't even in HS yet. If they work hard on the field, in the gym, at practice, and most importantly in the classroom (because if the grades aren't there your wasting your time) your son will get a good look.
Please read
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/27/s...ollege-then-starting-9th-grade.html?_r=0
You people are pathetic talking about a 14 year old kid here.
I personally know the young man and I find it hard to believe that there might be anyone out there that works harder than him. Is it that difficult for you to just tip your cap to him and say great job.
I wish nothing but the best for him as should everyone else.
Keep up the hard work!!!!!!!!!
Ditto! You belittle what the kid has busted his butt on to accomplish.
Agree, I am not from his town and not from his club but I know who he is and I know that he has put in a lot of time. He one of the best I have seen at 2018.
Thank u for that post. But when my kid is 5'3 5'4" say in tenth grade does he have a real opportunity to make it? Prob not when there will be an attackman at 5'10" and fully developed. He sees it already and works hard and is on one of the better teams at his age group but I wonder. Those early bloomers do have an advantage.
Of course they have an advantage. Just have your son do the best he can. Not everyone needs to play at duke or virginia. If he loves lacrosse and he is good at it, use it to he best of your advantage you can.
There will be tons of people with different advantages, older, bigger, faster, D1 coach as a father, personal training, money for weeks in canada learning box, prep school etc.
Just have your son be the best he can and see how far it takes him.
Thank u for that post. But when my kid is 5'3 5'4" say in tenth grade does he have a real opportunity to make it? Prob not when there will be an attackman at 5'10" and fully developed. He sees it already and works hard and is on one of the better teams at his age group but I wonder. Those early bloomers do have an advantage.
First take a breath. They all don't have to commit in 9th grade. Kids commit later, and do very well. My son played on a strong recruiting team as a rising senior last summer. There were 7 or 8 kids that committed to D1 schools like, Michigan, Yale, Lafayette and Delaware. Others committed to great D3 programs as well. Your son has plenty of time, and the opportunities will be there.
I appreciate the feedback. It's frustrating though knowing your son has the ability but his size will hurt him at this age. I was always told u are too small and I went on to play 1AA college football. I was a late bloomer and he is following. And with this recruting process starting so early it makes u a little crazy. Lol. And I have no problem him going to a good div 3 or 2 school.
I appreciate the feedback. It's frustrating though knowing your son has the ability but his size will hurt him at this age. I was always told u are too small and I went on to play 1AA college football. I was a late bloomer and he is following. And with this recruting process starting so early it makes u a little crazy. Lol. And I have no problem him going to a good div 3 or 2 school.
I get it. Sounds like your son is a good athlete, focus on that. There are many "big kids" who don't move like smaller kids. Their bodies take time to catch up with their size. That's frustrating too. There are kids who are great athletes, but despite hard work can't break a B in the classroom. Every kid has challenges. As my Mom always said "go with what you've got"!
Awesome kid, unbelievable player. Very well deserved hardest working kid I know. My son has played with him since the 5 the grade. Deserves all the kudos
Awesome kid, unbelievable player. Very well deserved hardest working kid I know. My son has played with him since the 5 the grade. Deserves all the kudos
This child is one of the top players for 2018 and deserves the kudos. The buzz is more about the quality of the reporting. At a minimum it was biased by reputation and outside inputs. The simple math shows that the reporter would have only had a snapshot of all the players he listed. I would question wether Ty asked " who is the kid wearing numer xxx?" or " What number is ( kids name) wearing?"
It is not that complicated. He watches some games/practices and more importantly, he talks to the 3D evaluators who watch every game. He may choose to acknowledge kids based on his own evaluation, but he is informed of who to watch from the 3D evaluators and coaches. This, of course, would be what any reporter/blogger would do -- listen to many sources and report an opinion.
Great kid. I know the kid trains 8 days a week. Before school after school nights kid is always working at getting better. Athlete Zone training. That is his second home. Congrats on the write up and keep up the hard work.
Awesome kid, unbelievable player. Very well deserved hardest working kid I know. My son has played with him since the 5 the grade. Deserves all the kudos
This child is one of the top players for 2018 and deserves the kudos. The buzz is more about the quality of the reporting. At a minimum it was biased by reputation and outside inputs. The simple math shows that the reporter would have only had a snapshot of all the players he listed. I would question wether Ty asked " who is the kid wearing numer xxx?" or " What number is ( kids name) wearing?"
What's wrong with the reporting? Was your son not written up? I bet there would be a lot less whining if there were more LI kids identified as standouts! Kuttin was written up because he is a standout, the others just didn't make as much of an impression. Don't be upset, the kids are only in eighth grade. they have at least 2 more years to get noticed! Good luck
Everyone needs to just relax. A blogger wrote about a few players at a showcase event. He couldn't write about everyone and picked a few from different positions. This was a very tough region probably the toughest of all the 3DBC regions. To be mentioned in the main body is a nice accomplishment and then to be in the honorable mention area is also great. Why must parents take it to the level where they bash kids. My son was there played very well wasn't mentioned but I couldn't be happier for the Kuttin family and all the other Long Island boys mentioned. It was a great event my son will do it again. Thought the coaching was great and the overall talent was exceptional. It was a great barometer to see how your child played when placed in a new team style concept. Most of the boys from Long Island play on the same teams or play against each other. Amazing as it sounds they were all friends before and will be friends after this event. My son commented how nice the players from Dukes, Patriots, Building Blocks and other teams were. Parents just get over the petty b.s. you construe in your own heads. Let the boys have fun being kids and playing the game they love.
Everyone needs to just relax. A blogger wrote about a few players at a showcase event. He couldn't write about everyone and picked a few from different positions. This was a very tough region probably the toughest of all the 3DBC regions. To be mentioned in the main body is a nice accomplishment and then to be in the honorable mention area is also great. Why must parents take it to the level where they bash kids. My son was there played very well wasn't mentioned but I couldn't be happier for the Kuttin family and all the other Long Island boys mentioned. It was a great event my son will do it again. Thought the coaching was great and the overall talent was exceptional. It was a great barometer to see how your child played when placed in a new team style concept. Most of the boys from Long Island play on the same teams or play against each other. Amazing as it sounds they were all friends before and will be friends after this event. My son commented how nice the players from Dukes, Patriots, Building Blocks and other teams were. Parents just get over the petty b.s. you construe in your own heads. Let the boys have fun being kids and playing the game they love.
Nice post. It is so true how they all are friends. My older son has attended several of these showcases. He has developed frienships from all over the country, they all chat constantly. They support each other and congratulate each other on their commitments. Lacrosse players belong to a true brotherhood. They parents are way more anxious and competitive than the kids.
Everyone needs to just relax. A blogger wrote about a few players at a showcase event. He couldn't write about everyone and picked a few from different positions. This was a very tough region probably the toughest of all the 3DBC regions. To be mentioned in the main body is a nice accomplishment and then to be in the honorable mention area is also great. Why must parents take it to the level where they bash kids. My son was there played very well wasn't mentioned but I couldn't be happier for the Kuttin family and all the other Long Island boys mentioned. It was a great event my son will do it again. Thought the coaching was great and the overall talent was exceptional. It was a great barometer to see how your child played when placed in a new team style concept. Most of the boys from Long Island play on the same teams or play against each other. Amazing as it sounds they were all friends before and will be friends after this event. My son commented how nice the players from Dukes, Patriots, Building Blocks and other teams were. Parents just get over the petty b.s. you construe in your own heads. Let the boys have fun being kids and playing the game they love.
Nice post. It is so true how they all are friends. My older son has attended several of these showcases. He has developed frienships from all over the country, they all chat constantly. They support each other and congratulate each other on their commitments. Lacrosse players belong to a true brotherhood. They parents are way more anxious and competitive than the kids.
Well this weekend is the final 3d Blue Chip, East Coast, then they should start finalizing the 120 invites. Good luck to all the 2018 kids who tried out.
need some help here - Inside Lacrosse seems to have taken down the link to all of Mr Zanders recruiting blogs - has it moved or is it gone?
need some help here - Inside Lacrosse seems to have taken down the link to all of Mr Zanders recruiting blogs - has it moved or is it gone?
No they didn't,
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/news/...e-chip-tryout-recap-mid-atlantic-region.
it seems to be gone from the drop down tab under recruiting - also it does not come up when you do a search for Ty Xanders" lots of articles but none of the camp stuff
Just posted this on the 2017 site and thought you would be interested. Re: early recruiting for 2017 class.
Another 2017 kid just commited. This time a middie from FCA and Calvert Hall to Ohio State. According to Inside Lacrosse, that now makes 32 "public" commits. UNC (8), UVA (7), Johns Hopkins (7) classes close to being filled up, Maryland has 4. How many more commits to you think are outr there (meaning actual verbals) that have not gone public yet? 10/20/30? This is happening very quickly, admittedly a decent percentage of the 32 have re-classified into the 2017 class (e.g., were 2016s), but that is still a lot. Nothing slowing this early commit thing down apparently.
it seems to be gone from the drop down tab under recruiting - also it does not come up when you do a search for Ty Xanders" lots of articles but none of the camp stuff
search 3d blue chip
Just posted this on the 2017 site and thought you would be interested. Re: early recruiting for 2017 class.
Another 2017 kid just commited. This time a middie from FCA and Calvert Hall to Ohio State. According to Inside Lacrosse, that now makes 32 "public" commits. UNC (8), UVA (7), Johns Hopkins (7) classes close to being filled up, Maryland has 4. How many more commits to you think are outr there (meaning actual verbals) that have not gone public yet? 10/20/30? This is happening very quickly, admittedly a decent percentage of the 32 have re-classified into the 2017 class (e.g., were 2016s), but that is still a lot. Nothing slowing this early commit thing down apparently.
Apparently this is another holdback ... should be class of 2016, with an early 1998 birthday.
Just got word that a 2018 will announce his commitment shortly. Not a joke!! I guess this is going as predicted! Crazy!
Just got word that a 2018 will announce his commitment shortly. Not a joke!! I guess this is going as predicted! Crazy!
u r crazy!!!!
Just got word that a 2018 will announce his commitment shortly. Not a joke!! I guess this is going as predicted! Crazy!
St A's or Cham?
Just got word that a 2018 will announce his commitment shortly. Not a joke!! I guess this is going as predicted! Crazy!
St A's or Cham?
Would not surprise me, it's the way things are going. I thought it would have happened next year for and 8th grader. Looks like the runaway train is showing no signs of stopping...
Just got word that a 2018 will announce his commitment shortly. Not a joke!! I guess this is going as predicted! Crazy!
St A's or Cham?
Neither. they would still be in middle school!!!
Just got word that a 2018 will announce his commitment shortly. Not a joke!! I guess this is going as predicted! Crazy!
St A's or Cham?
Neither. they would still be in middle school!!!
That joke was lost on some I see. Since he is only in Middle school his committing should only be to what High school he goes to, not college.
It would be interested to see with this trend of younger commits do they stay home or go to the privates??
Now that the committing time to the privates is upon us. I am interetsed to see a few things?
[list]
[*] Which school got the top players.
[list]
[*]with the 2018 class headed to high school how many 91 Express boys going to Cham or St A's
Just got word that a 2018 will announce his commitment shortly. Not a joke!! I guess this is going as predicted! Crazy!
St A's or Cham?
Would not surprise me, it's the way things are going. I thought it would have happened next year for and 8th grader. Looks like the runaway train is showing no signs of stopping...
Next year a 7th grader
Just got word that a 2018 will announce his commitment shortly. Not a joke!! I guess this is going as predicted! Crazy!
St A's or Cham?
Neither. they would still be in middle school!!!
That joke was lost on some I see. Since he is only in Middle school his committing should only be to what High school he goes to, not college.
It would be interested to see with this trend of younger commits do they stay home or go to the privates??
the only persons getting committed should be the parents on this board.
Just got word that a 2018 will announce his commitment shortly. Not a joke!! I guess this is going as predicted! Crazy!
St A's or Cham?
Neither. they would still be in middle school!!!
That joke was lost on some I see. Since he is only in Middle school his committing should only be to what High school he goes to, not college.
It would be interested to see with this trend of younger commits do they stay home or go to the privates??
Thank you, I will try to keep subtlety to a minimum going forward -
Any other LI boys that impressed? Goalies or D?
Were not too many LI players there. Mostly New England and a lot of MD/DC. Crabs and Madlax defenseman very strong. Jesters goalie played real well! Made some crazy saves.
Just got word that a 2018 will announce his commitment shortly. Not a joke!! I guess this is going as predicted! Crazy!
St A's or Cham?
Neither. they would still be in middle school!!!
That joke was lost on some I see. Since he is only in Middle school his committing should only be to what High school he goes to, not college.
It would be interested to see with this trend of younger commits do they stay home or go to the privates??
that was funny. But true.
the only persons getting committed should be the parents on this board.
Any other LI boys that impressed? Goalies or D?
Were not too many LI players there. Mostly New England and a lot of MD/DC. Crabs and Madlax defenseman very strong. Jesters goalie played real well! Made some crazy saves.
Jesters goalie parent 3D evaluators doesn't read this.
Any other LI boys that impressed? Goalies or D?
Were not too many LI players there. Mostly New England and a lot of MD/DC. Crabs and Madlax defenseman very strong. Jesters goalie played real well! Made some crazy saves.
Jesters goalie parent 3D evaluators doesn't read this.
Actually, some of us do...and don't think college coaches don't take a peek...
Any other LI boys that impressed? Goalies or D?
Were not too many LI players there. Mostly New England and a lot of MD/DC. Crabs and Madlax defenseman very strong. Jesters goalie played real well! Made some crazy saves.
Jesters goalie parent 3D evaluators doesn't read this.
Actually, some of us do...and don't think college coaches don't take a peek...
Well then if thats the case here are my sons stats: He is 6'3 weighs 195 runs a 4.3 40 yard has a verticle of 45. His AI is off the charts. He lit it up at the 2018 Mid Atlantic Region and can play any position equally as well as the best player at that postion. I will be accepting college offers when he turns 13 my email is inyourdreams@aol.com
If any college coaches and evaluators rely on the BS thats written here their teams are in trouble.
Any other LI boys that impressed? Goalies or D?
Were not too many LI players there. Mostly New England and a lot of MD/DC. Crabs and Madlax defenseman very strong. Jesters goalie played real well! Made some crazy saves.
Jesters goalie parent 3D evaluators doesn't read this.
Actually, some of us do...and don't think college coaches don't take a peek...
Well then if thats the case here are my sons stats: He is 6'3 weighs 195 runs a 4.3 40 yard has a verticle of 45. His AI is off the charts. He lit it up at the 2018 Mid Atlantic Region and can play any position equally as well as the best player at that postion. I will be accepting college offers when he turns 13 my email is inyourdreams@aol.com
If any college coaches and evaluators rely on the BS thats written here their teams are in trouble.
Wow. Lot of free time?
If someone says something positive about someone who's not on 91 it must be his mom?!
The people who were there saw who played well and I am confident 3D evaluators did as well. Be happy for all the boys that went out and played hard.
Any other LI boys that impressed? Goalies or D?
Were not too many LI players there. Mostly New England and a lot of MD/DC. Crabs and Madlax defenseman very strong. Jesters goalie played real well! Made some crazy saves.
Jesters goalie parent 3D evaluators doesn't read this.
Actually, some of us do...and don't think college coaches don't take a peek...
Well then if thats the case here are my sons stats: He is 6'3 weighs 195 runs a 4.3 40 yard has a verticle of 45. His AI is off the charts. He lit it up at the 2018 Mid Atlantic Region and can play any position equally as well as the best player at that postion. I will be accepting college offers when he turns 13 my email is inyourdreams@aol.com
If any college coaches and evaluators rely on the BS thats written here their teams are in trouble.
Wow. Lot of free time?
If someone says something positive about someone who's not on 91 it must be his mom?!
The people who were there saw who played well and I am confident 3D evaluators did as well. Be happy for all the boys that went out and played hard.
I was there. Kid played well. As did other Jester players, Express and Team LI players. Best to all the LI kids.
Its so funny that a goalie from next level a MD team was mentioned today in the 2018 north east region of 3D write up or players to watch but he also played in last years 2017 group. TY states hes big for his age and fills up the net. Of course he's big he's probably 15. Another reclassification kid taking the spot of a true 2018.
Its so funny that a goalie from next level a MD team was mentioned today in the 2018 north east region of 3D write up or players to watch but he also played in last years 2017 group. TY states hes big for his age and fills up the net. Of course he's big he's probably 15. Another reclassification kid taking the spot of a true 2018.
Actually south region not northeast.
heard a few xtreme players are heading to Chaminade any idea who?
Now that the committing time to the privates is upon us. I am interetsed to see a few things?
[list]
[*] Which school got the top players.
[list]
[*]with the 2018 class headed to high school how many 91 Express boys going to Cham or St A's
The top boys mostly will go to one of these 2 schools. Not too many top college commitments come from many other schools on LI. Maybe GC, Manhasset, Smithtown. If you;re not in these districts, and you have a chance at top college, most likely you're going to St. A or Cham.
That's a ridiculous, silly statement. PLENTY of other High Schools on Long Island send kids to the top Div. 1 lacrosse schools. Just look at the list of commitments in the 2016 and 2017 classes. Pequa, Melville, West Islip, Sachem, Northport, CSH, Syosset etc.
Just because Channy tells everyone on his Express teams that, doesn't make it true.
Now that the committing time to the privates is upon us. I am interetsed to see a few things?
[list]
[*] Which school got the top players.
[list]
[*]with the 2018 class headed to high school how many 91 Express boys going to Cham or St A's
The top boys mostly will go to one of these 2 schools. Not too many top college commitments come from many other schools on LI. Maybe GC, Manhasset, Smithtown. If you;re not in these districts, and you have a chance at top college, most likely you're going to St. A or Cham.
Ward Melvile??? No need to go private, plenty of great commitments coming from public schools!
Lot's of top kids don't go to St A or Chammy, many good lax schools on li...
The top boys mostly will go to one of these 2 schools. Not too many top college commitments come from many other schools on LI. Maybe GC, Manhasset, Smithtown. If you;re not in these districts, and you have a chance at top college, most likely you're going to St. A or Cham.
I am going to have a tough conversation with my 8th grader tonight, not going to Cham, St A, GC, Man or Smithtown so D1 dream is unrealistic. I wonder Why Ward Melville, Massapegua, Syosset, West Islip, Cold Spring Harbor, Farmingdale and the others even bother fielding a team?
The top boys mostly will go to one of these 2 schools. Not too many top college commitments come from many other schools on LI. Maybe GC, Manhasset, Smithtown. If you;re not in these districts, and you have a chance at top college, most likely you're going to St. A or Cham.
I am going to have a tough conversation with my 8th grader tonight, not going to Cham, St A, GC, Man or Smithtown so D1 dream is unrealistic. I wonder Why Ward Melville, Massapegua, Syosset, West Islip, Cold Spring Harbor, Farmingdale and the others even bother fielding a team?
Just because somebody makes a silly statement - better to ignore. ~ 14% of Long Island HS lax players - play D1. And I believe the highest ranked recruit came from SWR last year.
Now that the committing time to the privates is upon us. I am interetsed to see a few things?
[list]
[*] Which school got the top players.
[list]
[*]with the 2018 class headed to high school how many 91 Express boys going to Cham or St A's
The top boys mostly will go to one of these 2 schools. Not too many top college commitments come from many other schools on LI. Maybe GC, Manhasset, Smithtown. If you;re not in these districts, and you have a chance at top college, most likely you're going to St. A or Cham.
Ward Melvile??? No need to go private, plenty of great commitments coming from public schools!
Ward Melville maybe not so public. See the following
- "Danowski really knows how to mine Long Island for talent.Talented lacrosse players but great students as well.A testament to the quality of the lacrosse programs and academic rigor at many L.I. high schools.I did notice that Bruckner is from Belle Terre.I thought folks who live in BT went to Port Jefferson HS.He went to WM.Puzzling?????" -
Maybe we can call WM simi-private.
Just be thankful that WI didn't bring in any ringers last year or the run would not have ended.
The top boys mostly will go to one of these 2 schools. Not too many top college commitments come from many other schools on LI. Maybe GC, Manhasset, Smithtown. If you;re not in these districts, and you have a chance at top college, most likely you're going to St. A or Cham.
I am going to have a tough conversation with my 8th grader tonight, not going to Cham, St A, GC, Man or Smithtown so D1 dream is unrealistic. I wonder Why Ward Melville, Massapegua, Syosset, West Islip, Cold Spring Harbor, Farmingdale and the others even bother fielding a team?
Just because somebody makes a silly statement - better to ignore. ~ 14% of Long Island HS lax players - play D1. And I believe the highest ranked recruit came from SWR last year.
I totally agree. The statment was without merit, but you misinterpreted the statistic.
Of the present D1 freshman class 14% are from Long Island.
Lot's of top kids don't go to St A or Chammy, many good lax schools on li...
Wonder if there are still any hard feelings about that split to 91 a few years back.
That's a ridiculous, silly statement. PLENTY of other High Schools on Long Island send kids to the top Div. 1 lacrosse schools. Just look at the list of commitments in the 2016 and 2017 classes. Pequa, Melville, West Islip, Sachem, Northport, CSH, Syosset etc.
I do not believe any Ward Melville 2016's or 2017's have committed.
Lot's of top kids don't go to St A or Chammy, many good lax schools on li...
Wonder if there are still any hard feelings about that split to 91 a few years back.
News flash. We don't send our kids to those schools for lacrosse.
Lot's of top kids don't go to St A or Chammy, many good lax schools on li...
Wonder if there are still any hard feelings about that split to 91 a few years back.
News flash. We don't send our kids to those schools for lacrosse.
News Flash.....YES YOU DO!!!
Lot's of top kids don't go to St A or Chammy, many good lax schools on li...
Wonder if there are still any hard feelings about that split to 91 a few years back.
News flash. We don't send our kids to those schools for lacrosse.
News Flash.....YES YOU DO!!!
It is called education through faith. Obviously foreign to you.
Lot's of top kids don't go to St A or Chammy, many good lax schools on li...
Wonder if there are still any hard feelings about that split to 91 a few years back.
News flash. We don't send our kids to those schools for lacrosse.
News Flash.....YES YOU DO!!!
It is called education through faith. Obviously foreign to you.
Obviously your son is not a “top player”…
Lot's of top kids don't go to St A or Chammy, many good lax schools on li...
Wonder if there are still any hard feelings about that split to 91 a few years back.
News flash. We don't send our kids to those schools for lacrosse.
News Flash.....YES YOU DO!!!
It is called education through faith. Obviously foreign to you.
Obviously your son is not a “top player”…
My neighbors son attended Chaminade and was not a top player. Made varsity but not much game time so he eventually walked away from the lacrosse team and focused on his academics. Guess what. He got 120K in academic scholarship money from his top tier college. Maybe your top player will get half that amount from Post if lucky.
What towns have produced the "best" college players over the last 10 years?
Does anyone want to take a shot at this?
Looking to see if there is a town that is producing kids that "stand out" at the D-1 level.
All American, All Conference or North South honors.
Towns that come to mind are:
Garden City
Manhasset
West Islip
Cold Spring Harbor
Smithtown
Syosset
Massapequa
I think that Chaminade and St Anthony's have put out the most but what towns are the players from?
Correct. So better prepped for life, than just a "top player" in the 8th grade.
Who are the players from Farmingdale?
Coach K, (Express 2022 Minutemen) was LSM of the year at UMASS.
Daler Nation All Americans
1975 MIKE CHANENCHUK MIDFIELD SENIOR
1976 MICHAEL SCIBELLI DEFENSE SENIOR
1977 FRANK AMBROSIO GOAL SENIOR
1978 RAY GIUSTO MIDFIELD SENIOR
1978 ROB STAUGAITIS ATTACK SENIOR
1980 BILL NASLONSKI ATTACK SENIOR
1981 JOHN KRUMENACKER ATTACK SENIOR
1982 JOHN DETOMMASO DEFENSE SENIOR
1983 BRUCE CHANENCHUK ATTACK SENIOR
1984 JOE RZEMPOLUCH MIDFIELD SENIOR
1985 JAMES DETOMMASO DEFENSE SENIOR
1985 JEFF IHM ATTACK SENIOR
1986 BRIAN FORESTA ATTACK SENIOR
1987 JIM NASLONSKI ATTACK JUNIOR
1988 JIM NASLONKSI ATTACK SENIOR
1988 JIM STRUB MIDFIELD SENIOR
1989 STEVE MCMAHON DEFENSE SENIOR
1991 DENNIS KELLY DEFENSE SENIOR
1992 BRIAN BASCO MIDFIELD SENIOR
1992 TODD KEARNEY DEFENSE SENIOR
1993 ANTHONY TUFANO GOAL SENIOR
1995 ROB MULLIGAN GOAL JUNIOR
1997 CHRIS GABRIELLI DEFENSE SENIOR
1999 KEVIN BRENNAN ATTACK SENIOR
1999 BRIAN ZUCHELLI DEFENSE SENIOR
2001 MATT DANOWKSI ATTACK SOPHOMORE
2002 MATT DANOWSKI ATTACK JUNIOR
2002 STEVE PANARELLI DEFENSE JUNIOR
2003 MATT DANOWKSI ATTACK SENIOR
2003 JONATHAN ENGELKE ATTACK SENIOR
2003 STEVE PANARELLI DEFENSE SENIOR
2003 WILL PRESTI DEFENSE SENIOR
2008 KEENAN OCHWAT DEFENSE SENIOR
HONORABLE MENTION ALL AMERICANS
1998 KEVIN BRENNAN MIDFIELD JUNIOR
2003 JERRY LAMBE DEFENSE SENIOR
2003 DANNY BRENNAN MIDFIELD SENIOR
2004 JOE ZUCCHERO DEFENSE SENIOR
2005 RYAN BAGNASCO ATTACK SENIOR
2007 KEENAN OCHWAT DEFENSE JUNIOR
What towns have produced the "best" college players over the last 10 years?
Does anyone want to take a shot at this?
Looking to see if there is a town that is producing kids that "stand out" at the D-1 level.
All American, All Conference or North South honors.
Towns that come to mind are:
Garden City
Manhasset
West Islip
Cold Spring Harbor
Smithtown
Syosset
Massapequa
I think that Chaminade and St Anthony's have put out the most but what towns are the players from?
Huntington should also be on the list.
Other than Danowski and about 6 others in '03 , recently they've had kids go to Ohio st , Towson , Loyola , Hofstra , Penn St , Sacred Heart That's within the last 5 years , off the top of my head.
Was looking for recent (last 5 - 10 years) and not just kids that played in college.
just wanted to see if any town has had more D1 standouts than the rest of the towns on Long Island. We all know that Long Island puts out a lot of players and that they come from many different towns. The question was:
What Towns have been producing kids that go on to become the best college players. Looking for kids All American, All Conference, North South honors in recent years 5 to 10 years.
Daler Nation All Americans
1975 MIKE CHANENCHUK MIDFIELD SENIOR
1976 MICHAEL SCIBELLI DEFENSE SENIOR
1977 FRANK AMBROSIO GOAL SENIOR
1978 RAY GIUSTO MIDFIELD SENIOR
1978 ROB STAUGAITIS ATTACK SENIOR
1980 BILL NASLONSKI ATTACK SENIOR
1981 JOHN KRUMENACKER ATTACK SENIOR
1982 JOHN DETOMMASO DEFENSE SENIOR
1983 BRUCE CHANENCHUK ATTACK SENIOR
1984 JOE RZEMPOLUCH MIDFIELD SENIOR
1985 JAMES DETOMMASO DEFENSE SENIOR
1985 JEFF IHM ATTACK SENIOR
1986 BRIAN FORESTA ATTACK SENIOR
1987 JIM NASLONSKI ATTACK JUNIOR
1988 JIM NASLONKSI ATTACK SENIOR
1988 JIM STRUB MIDFIELD SENIOR
1989 STEVE MCMAHON DEFENSE SENIOR
1991 DENNIS KELLY DEFENSE SENIOR
1992 BRIAN BASCO MIDFIELD SENIOR
1992 TODD KEARNEY DEFENSE SENIOR
1993 ANTHONY TUFANO GOAL SENIOR
1995 ROB MULLIGAN GOAL JUNIOR
1997 CHRIS GABRIELLI DEFENSE SENIOR
1999 KEVIN BRENNAN ATTACK SENIOR
1999 BRIAN ZUCHELLI DEFENSE SENIOR
2001 MATT DANOWKSI ATTACK SOPHOMORE
2002 MATT DANOWSKI ATTACK JUNIOR
2002 STEVE PANARELLI DEFENSE JUNIOR
2003 MATT DANOWKSI ATTACK SENIOR
2003 JONATHAN ENGELKE ATTACK SENIOR
2003 STEVE PANARELLI DEFENSE SENIOR
2003 WILL PRESTI DEFENSE SENIOR
2008 KEENAN OCHWAT DEFENSE SENIOR
HONORABLE MENTION ALL AMERICANS
1998 KEVIN BRENNAN MIDFIELD JUNIOR
2003 JERRY LAMBE DEFENSE SENIOR
2003 DANNY BRENNAN MIDFIELD SENIOR
2004 JOE ZUCCHERO DEFENSE SENIOR
2005 RYAN BAGNASCO ATTACK SENIOR
2007 KEENAN OCHWAT DEFENSE JUNIOR
Great list but looking for recent 5 - 10 years (college D-1 All Americans).
One All American from the LI Catholics last year. And he scored his first NCAA goal today.
Frocaros from Port Washington at Princeton pretty good players in college and have received nice honors over the years.
One All American from the LI Catholics last year. And he scored his first NCAA goal today.
go for it, try and spell his name.....and I don't mean Ryan
What towns have produced the "best" college players over the last 10 years?
Does anyone want to take a shot at this?
Looking to see if there is a town that is producing kids that "stand out" at the D-1 level.
All American, All Conference or North South honors.
Towns that come to mind are:
Garden City
Manhasset
West Islip
Cold Spring Harbor
Smithtown
Syosset
Massapequa
I think that Chaminade and St Anthony's have put out the most but what towns are the players from?
West Islip has had a few AA's in D-1 since 2004. Justin Turri -Duke 2011, 2012 honorable Mention, Ryan Flanagan- N.Carolina 2011,2010,2009, Nick Galasso - N.Carolina 2011, Brian Caufield-Albany 2009 (HM). Christian Scuderi-Hofstra 2009 (HM) also D2 AA at NYIT in 2007,2008. A few more D2 AA's were Albert Maione-Molloy 2009, Matt Sullivan-NYIT 2010, Eddie Plompen- CW Post 2011. Turri, Flanagan,Caufield, Maione and Scuderi all play or played in MLL. Andrew Hodgson-Towson was All-CAA in 2013 and is presently a senior. Ian Braddish - Hofstra was 1st team All-CAA in 2011. Mike Sagl-Quinnipiac was 2nd team All-NEC in 2013. Drew Federico-Fairfield was All-ECAC rookie in 2012 as was Bryan Badalato at Sacred Heart, presently at Marquette. Pete Mezzanotte-Towson was USILA North-South All-Star in 2011 and currently plays for Denver Outlaws in MLL. That is all I can think of now, I may have missed somebody. there will be others.
One All American from the LI Catholics last year. And he scored his first NCAA goal today.
go for it, try and spell his name.....and I don't mean Ryan
Sorry I graduated from public school - cant do it.
What towns have produced the "best" college players over the last 10 years?
Does anyone want to take a shot at this?
Looking to see if there is a town that is producing kids that "stand out" at the D-1 level.
All American, All Conference or North South honors.
Towns that come to mind are:
Garden City
Manhasset
West Islip
Cold Spring Harbor
Smithtown
Syosset
Massapequa
I think that Chaminade and St Anthony's have put out the most but what towns are the players from?
West Islip has had a few AA's in D-1 since 2004. Justin Turri -Duke 2011, 2012 honorable Mention, Ryan Flanagan- N.Carolina 2011,2010,2009, Nick Galasso - N.Carolina 2011, Brian Caufield-Albany 2009 (HM). Christian Scuderi-Hofstra 2009 (HM) also D2 AA at NYIT in 2007,2008. A few more D2 AA's were Albert Maione-Molloy 2009, Matt Sullivan-NYIT 2010, Eddie Plompen- CW Post 2011. Turri, Flanagan,Caufield, Maione and Scuderi all play or played in MLL. Andrew Hodgson-Towson was All-CAA in 2013 and is presently a senior. Ian Braddish - Hofstra was 1st team All-CAA in 2011. Mike Sagl-Quinnipiac was 2nd team All-NEC in 2013. Drew Federico-Fairfield was All-ECAC rookie in 2012 as was Bryan Badalato at Sacred Heart, presently at Marquette. Pete Mezzanotte-Towson was USILA North-South All-Star in 2011 and currently plays for Denver Outlaws in MLL. That is all I can think of now, I may have missed somebody. there will be others.
Thank you West Islip.
5 D1 All Americans
4 D1 All Conference
1 North South player.
That is an impressive list. What other towns have produced high caliber D1 players?
What towns have produced the "best" college players over the last 10 years?
Does anyone want to take a shot at this?
Looking to see if there is a town that is producing kids that "stand out" at the D-1 level.
All American, All Conference or North South honors.
Towns that come to mind are:
Garden City
Manhasset
West Islip
Cold Spring Harbor
Smithtown
Syosset
Massapequa
I think that Chaminade and St Anthony's have put out the most but what towns are the players from?
West Islip has had a few AA's in D-1 since 2004. Justin Turri -Duke 2011, 2012 honorable Mention, Ryan Flanagan- N.Carolina 2011,2010,2009, Nick Galasso - N.Carolina 2011, Brian Caufield-Albany 2009 (HM). Christian Scuderi-Hofstra 2009 (HM) also D2 AA at NYIT in 2007,2008. A few more D2 AA's were Albert Maione-Molloy 2009, Matt Sullivan-NYIT 2010, Eddie Plompen- CW Post 2011. Turri, Flanagan,Caufield, Maione and Scuderi all play or played in MLL. Andrew Hodgson-Towson was All-CAA in 2013 and is presently a senior. Ian Braddish - Hofstra was 1st team All-CAA in 2011. Mike Sagl-Quinnipiac was 2nd team All-NEC in 2013. Drew Federico-Fairfield was All-ECAC rookie in 2012 as was Bryan Badalato at Sacred Heart, presently at Marquette. Pete Mezzanotte-Towson was USILA North-South All-Star in 2011 and currently plays for Denver Outlaws in MLL. That is all I can think of now, I may have missed somebody. there will be others.
Thank you West Islip.
5 D1 All Americans
4 D1 All Conference
1 North South player.
That is an impressive list. What other towns have produced high caliber D1 players?
Pretty good evidence that proved something we all knew. Talent comes from everywhere on the island. So no need to go to one of the LI Catholics for lax - like it was suggested.
What towns have produced the "best" college players over the last 10 years?
Does anyone want to take a shot at this?
Looking to see if there is a town that is producing kids that "stand out" at the D-1 level.
All American, All Conference or North South honors.
Towns that come to mind are:
Garden City
Manhasset
West Islip
Cold Spring Harbor
Smithtown
Syosset
Massapequa
I think that Chaminade and St Anthony's have put out the most but what towns are the players from?
West Islip has had a few AA's in D-1 since 2004. Justin Turri -Duke 2011, 2012 honorable Mention, Ryan Flanagan- N.Carolina 2011,2010,2009, Nick Galasso - N.Carolina 2011, Brian Caufield-Albany 2009 (HM). Christian Scuderi-Hofstra 2009 (HM) also D2 AA at NYIT in 2007,2008. A few more D2 AA's were Albert Maione-Molloy 2009, Matt Sullivan-NYIT 2010, Eddie Plompen- CW Post 2011. Turri, Flanagan,Caufield, Maione and Scuderi all play or played in MLL. Andrew Hodgson-Towson was All-CAA in 2013 and is presently a senior. Ian Braddish - Hofstra was 1st team All-CAA in 2011. Mike Sagl-Quinnipiac was 2nd team All-NEC in 2013. Drew Federico-Fairfield was All-ECAC rookie in 2012 as was Bryan Badalato at Sacred Heart, presently at Marquette. Pete Mezzanotte-Towson was USILA North-South All-Star in 2011 and currently plays for Denver Outlaws in MLL. That is all I can think of now, I may have missed somebody. there will be others.
Thank you West Islip.
5 D1 All Americans
4 D1 All Conference
1 North South player.
That is an impressive list. What other towns have produced high caliber D1 players?
Pretty good evidence that proved something we all knew. Talent comes from everywhere on the island. So no need to go to one of the LI Catholics for lax - like it was suggested.
Please leave your hate at the door. I was just trying to see if any "town" was outproducing the others with respect to "Top Performing" D-1 players.
The best players do not always come from the best HS teams.
I forgot West Islip's Mike McCormick was 2nd team All-Ivy defenseman at Yale in 2012.
So far it looks like West Islip is the town with the most kids who have gone on to be the "best of the best" at the D1 level.
5 D-1 All Americans
5 D-1 All Conference
1 North South Game
All in recent years.
Come on, I know that some of the other towns have also produced some top players. Garden City, Huntington, Manhasset, Syosset, Massapequa, Farmingdale ???
What towns have produced the "best" college players over the last 10 years?
Does anyone want to take a shot at this?
Looking to see if there is a town that is producing kids that "stand out" at the D-1 level.
All American, All Conference or North South honors.
Towns that come to mind are:
Garden City
Manhasset
West Islip
Cold Spring Harbor
Smithtown
Syosset
Massapequa
I think that Chaminade and St Anthony's have put out the most but what towns are the players from?
West Islip has had a few AA's in D-1 since 2004. Justin Turri -Duke 2011, 2012 honorable Mention, Ryan Flanagan- N.Carolina 2011,2010,2009, Nick Galasso - N.Carolina 2011, Brian Caufield-Albany 2009 (HM). Christian Scuderi-Hofstra 2009 (HM) also D2 AA at NYIT in 2007,2008. A few more D2 AA's were Albert Maione-Molloy 2009, Matt Sullivan-NYIT 2010, Eddie Plompen- CW Post 2011. Turri, Flanagan,Caufield, Maione and Scuderi all play or played in MLL. Andrew Hodgson-Towson was All-CAA in 2013 and is presently a senior. Ian Braddish - Hofstra was 1st team All-CAA in 2011. Mike Sagl-Quinnipiac was 2nd team All-NEC in 2013. Drew Federico-Fairfield was All-ECAC rookie in 2012 as was Bryan Badalato at Sacred Heart, presently at Marquette. Pete Mezzanotte-Towson was USILA North-South All-Star in 2011 and currently plays for Denver Outlaws in MLL. That is all I can think of now, I may have missed somebody. there will be others.
Thank you West Islip.
5 D1 All Americans
4 D1 All Conference
1 North South player.
That is an impressive list. What other towns have produced high caliber D1 players?
Pretty good evidence that proved something we all knew. Talent comes from everywhere on the island. So no need to go to one of the LI Catholics for lax - like it was suggested.
Agreed, save your money and stay public, much better quality teachers and education plus some of the best lax programs in the country!
What towns have produced the "best" college players over the last 10 years?
Does anyone want to take a shot at this?
Looking to see if there is a town that is producing kids that "stand out" at the D-1 level.
All American, All Conference or North South honors.
Towns that come to mind are:
Garden City
Manhasset
West Islip
Cold Spring Harbor
Smithtown
Syosset
Massapequa
I think that Chaminade and St Anthony's have put out the most but what towns are the players from?
West Islip has had a few AA's in D-1 since 2004. Justin Turri -Duke 2011, 2012 honorable Mention, Ryan Flanagan- N.Carolina 2011,2010,2009, Nick Galasso - N.Carolina 2011, Brian Caufield-Albany 2009 (HM). Christian Scuderi-Hofstra 2009 (HM) also D2 AA at NYIT in 2007,2008. A few more D2 AA's were Albert Maione-Molloy 2009, Matt Sullivan-NYIT 2010, Eddie Plompen- CW Post 2011. Turri, Flanagan,Caufield, Maione and Scuderi all play or played in MLL. Andrew Hodgson-Towson was All-CAA in 2013 and is presently a senior. Ian Braddish - Hofstra was 1st team All-CAA in 2011. Mike Sagl-Quinnipiac was 2nd team All-NEC in 2013. Drew Federico-Fairfield was All-ECAC rookie in 2012 as was Bryan Badalato at Sacred Heart, presently at Marquette. Pete Mezzanotte-Towson was USILA North-South All-Star in 2011 and currently plays for Denver Outlaws in MLL. That is all I can think of now, I may have missed somebody. there will be others.
Thank you West Islip.
5 D1 All Americans
4 D1 All Conference
1 North South player.
That is an impressive list. What other towns have produced high caliber D1 players?
Pretty good evidence that proved something we all knew. Talent comes from everywhere on the island. So no need to go to one of the LI Catholics for lax - like it was suggested.
Agreed, save your money and stay public, much better quality teachers and education plus some of the best lax programs in the country!
Another hater. Worry about your own money and just tell us if your town has produced and top D-1 players in recent years.
Who cares if your an All American. What about getting into and going to college. That's really what's important here. Getting a law degree from Gtown isn't so shabby. Even if u barely step on the field.
Who cares if your an All American. What about getting into and going to college. That's really what's important here. Getting a law degree from Gtown isn't so shabby. Even if u barely step on the field.
You can't get a law degree without going to Law School. That is not an undergraduate major.
What towns have produced the "best" college players over the last 10 years?
Does anyone want to take a shot at this?
Looking to see if there is a town that is producing kids that "stand out" at the D-1 level.
All American, All Conference or North South honors.
Towns that come to mind are:
Garden City
Manhasset
West Islip
Cold Spring Harbor
Smithtown
Syosset
Massapequa
I think that Chaminade and St Anthony's have put out the most but what towns are the players from?
West Islip has had a few AA's in D-1 since 2004. Justin Turri -Duke 2011, 2012 honorable Mention, Ryan Flanagan- N.Carolina 2011,2010,2009, Nick Galasso - N.Carolina 2011, Brian Caufield-Albany 2009 (HM). Christian Scuderi-Hofstra 2009 (HM) also D2 AA at NYIT in 2007,2008. A few more D2 AA's were Albert Maione-Molloy 2009, Matt Sullivan-NYIT 2010, Eddie Plompen- CW Post 2011. Turri, Flanagan,Caufield, Maione and Scuderi all play or played in MLL. Andrew Hodgson-Towson was All-CAA in 2013 and is presently a senior. Ian Braddish - Hofstra was 1st team All-CAA in 2011. Mike Sagl-Quinnipiac was 2nd team All-NEC in 2013. Drew Federico-Fairfield was All-ECAC rookie in 2012 as was Bryan Badalato at Sacred Heart, presently at Marquette. Pete Mezzanotte-Towson was USILA North-South All-Star in 2011 and currently plays for Denver Outlaws in MLL. That is all I can think of now, I may have missed somebody. there will be others.
Thank you West Islip.
5 D1 All Americans
4 D1 All Conference
1 North South player.
That is an impressive list. What other towns have produced high caliber D1 players?
Pretty good evidence that proved something we all knew. Talent comes from everywhere on the island. So no need to go to one of the LI Catholics for lax - like it was suggested.
Agreed, save your money and stay public, much better quality teachers and education plus some of the best lax programs in the country!
You could always move to Smithtown, they currently have kids committed to these school ranging from 2017-2014 grad years, with many more to come very soon. Also have a former on Team USA, can any other town claim this?
Harvard-1
Yale-1
Hopkins-1
Penn State-2
Virginia-1
Maryland-2
UNC-2
Syracuse-1
Army 1
Drexel-1
Maryland-1
Lehigh-1
Stony Brook-1
Ohio State- 2
Smithtown has been pretty solid
What towns have produced the "best" college players over the last 10 years?
Does anyone want to take a shot at this?
Looking to see if there is a town that is producing kids that "stand out" at the D-1 level.
All American, All Conference or North South honors.
Towns that come to mind are:
Garden City
Manhasset
West Islip
Cold Spring Harbor
Smithtown
Syosset
Massapequa
I think that Chaminade and St Anthony's have put out the most but what towns are the players from?
West Islip has had a few AA's in D-1 since 2004. Justin Turri -Duke 2011, 2012 honorable Mention, Ryan Flanagan- N.Carolina 2011,2010,2009, Nick Galasso - N.Carolina 2011, Brian Caufield-Albany 2009 (HM). Christian Scuderi-Hofstra 2009 (HM) also D2 AA at NYIT in 2007,2008. A few more D2 AA's were Albert Maione-Molloy 2009, Matt Sullivan-NYIT 2010, Eddie Plompen- CW Post 2011. Turri, Flanagan,Caufield, Maione and Scuderi all play or played in MLL. Andrew Hodgson-Towson was All-CAA in 2013 and is presently a senior. Ian Braddish - Hofstra was 1st team All-CAA in 2011. Mike Sagl-Quinnipiac was 2nd team All-NEC in 2013. Drew Federico-Fairfield was All-ECAC rookie in 2012 as was Bryan Badalato at Sacred Heart, presently at Marquette. Pete Mezzanotte-Towson was USILA North-South All-Star in 2011 and currently plays for Denver Outlaws in MLL. That is all I can think of now, I may have missed somebody. there will be others.
Thank you West Islip.
5 D1 All Americans
4 D1 All Conference
1 North South player.
That is an impressive list. What other towns have produced high caliber D1 players?
Pretty good evidence that proved something we all knew. Talent comes from everywhere on the island. So no need to go to one of the LI Catholics for lax - like it was suggested.
Agreed, save your money and stay public, much better quality teachers and education plus some of the best lax programs in the country!
You could always move to Smithtown, they currently have kids committed to these school ranging from 2017-2014 grad years, with many more to come very soon. Also have a former on Team USA, can any other town claim this?
Harvard-1
Yale-1
Hopkins-1
Penn State-2
Virginia-1
Maryland-2
UNC-2
Syracuse-1
Army 1
Drexel-1
Maryland-1
Lehigh-1
Stony Brook-1
Ohio State- 2
Kids from all over the Island go on to play D 1 lacrosse.
I just wanted to see if any one town produced more high end D 1 players than the other towns.
Apparently that is too much to ask of the crazy people on this site. Every one either wants to demonstrate their hate and jealousy or they want to tell of all players who play in college or of the current and future committed players.
What towns have produced the "best" college players over the last 10 years?
Does anyone want to take a shot at this?
Looking to see if there is a town that is producing kids that "stand out" at the D-1 level.
All American, All Conference or North South honors.
Towns that come to mind are:
Garden City
Manhasset
West Islip
Cold Spring Harbor
Smithtown
Syosset
Massapequa
I think that Chaminade and St Anthony's have put out the most but what towns are the players from?
West Islip has had a few AA's in D-1 since 2004. Justin Turri -Duke 2011, 2012 honorable Mention, Ryan Flanagan- N.Carolina 2011,2010,2009, Nick Galasso - N.Carolina 2011, Brian Caufield-Albany 2009 (HM). Christian Scuderi-Hofstra 2009 (HM) also D2 AA at NYIT in 2007,2008. A few more D2 AA's were Albert Maione-Molloy 2009, Matt Sullivan-NYIT 2010, Eddie Plompen- CW Post 2011. Turri, Flanagan,Caufield, Maione and Scuderi all play or played in MLL. Andrew Hodgson-Towson was All-CAA in 2013 and is presently a senior. Ian Braddish - Hofstra was 1st team All-CAA in 2011. Mike Sagl-Quinnipiac was 2nd team All-NEC in 2013. Drew Federico-Fairfield was All-ECAC rookie in 2012 as was Bryan Badalato at Sacred Heart, presently at Marquette. Pete Mezzanotte-Towson was USILA North-South All-Star in 2011 and currently plays for Denver Outlaws in MLL. That is all I can think of now, I may have missed somebody. there will be others.
Thank you West Islip.
5 D1 All Americans
4 D1 All Conference
1 North South player.
That is an impressive list. What other towns have produced high caliber D1 players?
Pretty good evidence that proved something we all knew. Talent comes from everywhere on the island. So no need to go to one of the LI Catholics for lax - like it was suggested.
Agreed, save your money and stay public, much better quality teachers and education plus some of the best lax programs in the country!
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Smithtown has been impressive putting kids into top schools, but with all that talent they have had a hard time winning anything. I know they have two high schools and I believe the only county championship was when they had one high school for the district. With that said, I think they have the best talent coming up in the next few years. It will be interesting to see how many Terps and Extreme kids from Smithtown play for St.Anthony's or Chaminade instead of East/West.
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Before BOTC responds to these points, let us up front say that we are only responding to provide counterpoint to why many of these arguments are pointless. Consider these points.
- Academics - Should we measure academic achievement through Advanced Placement exam results, number of participants, or SAT/ACT performance? Should we examine the results from Intel and Siemens competitions? How about attendance at National Youth Leadership Forums in Washington DC and elsewhere? Our point here is that any of these metrics can be made to say exactly what I want when I need the details.
- Diversity - Many universities are stressing diversity in their class selection including regions, race, culture, and many other elements. Is a self-selected, all-boys environment the best one in which to prepare for the diversity associated with a university environment?
- Discipline - If you want to stress that element, would a military education be superior? Does the fact that everyone wears a uniform define discipline?
- Character - How does one "measure" character? How do you know one is superior to another? Isn't character more developed at home rather than at school?
Our point is that the best at one High School surely out-performs the worst at another making all of the generalizations pointless. After all, one cannot point to statistics that espouse individual drive in college as being the critical success factor and then argue that somehow that factor does not exist at the scholastic level.
Smithtown has been impressive putting kids into top schools, but with all that talent they have had a hard time winning anything.
BOTC would argue that you just pointed to what they have won. Think about it.
Smithtown has been impressive putting kids into top schools, but with all that talent they have had a hard time winning anything.
BOTC would argue that you just pointed to what they have won. Think about it.
. Yes, I was obviously commenting on a program's pursuit of a county title which should be the goal for top teams like Smithtown East/West. The individuals who excel to the point where they move to a top college program I would argue have earned it and they are indeed winners in my book.
What towns have produced the "best" college players over the last 10 years?
Does anyone want to take a shot at this?
Looking to see if there is a town that is producing kids that "stand out" at the D-1 level.
All American, All Conference or North South honors.
Towns that come to mind are:
Garden City
Manhasset
West Islip
Cold Spring Harbor
Smithtown
Syosset
Massapequa
I think that Chaminade and St Anthony's have put out the most but what towns are the players from?
West Islip has had a few AA's in D-1 since 2004. Justin Turri -Duke 2011, 2012 honorable Mention, Ryan Flanagan- N.Carolina 2011,2010,2009, Nick Galasso - N.Carolina 2011, Brian Caufield-Albany 2009 (HM). Christian Scuderi-Hofstra 2009 (HM) also D2 AA at NYIT in 2007,2008. A few more D2 AA's were Albert Maione-Molloy 2009, Matt Sullivan-NYIT 2010, Eddie Plompen- CW Post 2011. Turri, Flanagan,Caufield, Maione and Scuderi all play or played in MLL. Andrew Hodgson-Towson was All-CAA in 2013 and is presently a senior. Ian Braddish - Hofstra was 1st team All-CAA in 2011. Mike Sagl-Quinnipiac was 2nd team All-NEC in 2013. Drew Federico-Fairfield was All-ECAC rookie in 2012 as was Bryan Badalato at Sacred Heart, presently at Marquette. Pete Mezzanotte-Towson was USILA North-South All-Star in 2011 and currently plays for Denver Outlaws in MLL. That is all I can think of now, I may have missed somebody. there will be others.
Thank you West Islip.
5 D1 All Americans
4 D1 All Conference
1 North South player.
That is an impressive list. What other towns have produced high caliber D1 players?
Pretty good evidence that proved something we all knew. Talent comes from everywhere on the island. So no need to go to one of the LI Catholics for lax - like it was suggested.
Agreed, save your money and stay public, much better quality teachers and education plus some of the best lax programs in the country!
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
One persons opinion. School is what you make of it. If you take advantage of all the great opportuities offered at most public schools on LI, you will save yourself a bundle and sstill wind up at a top university!
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Before BOTC responds to these points, let us up front say that we are only responding to provide counterpoint to why many of these arguments are pointless. Consider these points.
- Academics - Should we measure academic achievement through Advanced Placement exam results, number of participants, or SAT/ACT performance? Should we examine the results from Intel and Siemens competitions? How about attendance at National Youth Leadership Forums in Washington DC and elsewhere? Our point here is that any of these metrics can be made to say exactly what I want when I need the details.
- Diversity - Many universities are stressing diversity in their class selection including regions, race, culture, and many other elements. Is a self-selected, all-boys environment the best one in which to prepare for the diversity associated with a university environment?
- Discipline - If you want to stress that element, would a military education be superior? Does the fact that everyone wears a uniform define discipline?
- Character - How does one "measure" character? How do you know one is superior to another? Isn't character more developed at home rather than at school?
Our point is that the best at one High School surely out-performs the worst at another making all of the generalizations pointless. After all, one cannot point to statistics that espouse individual drive in college as being the critical success factor and then argue that somehow that factor does not exist at the scholastic level.
On some level I agree on the academics piece, but not your comments about diversity, discipline and character. As to diversity, many would argue single-sex education is the best way to prepare young men and women because it allows them to be themselves and put aside all the adolescent games that can interfere with learning in the classroom. Nor is discipline at Chaminade the result of a uniform. It is taught by enforcing a code of conduct in the school, holding kids accountable for their actions and giving them a volume of work that demands discipline. When you have all that you grow up. I don't analogize it to the military, as you did, but West Point is consistently ranked among the top educational institutions in the country. They also, I think, have a pretty good record of churning out leaders year in and year out. Lastly, I agree character is more developed at home (hopefully) but there is no denying that the lessons reinforced at a place like Chaminade are key in terms of shaping the young men that go there. That is why I said the overall "product", in my opinion, is second to none on LI. Others can disageee, and that is fine, but what I realy was responding to was the "save your money" nonnsense. It may not be for you and your kid, but if you don't recognize what is happening at places like Chaminade you haven't been paying attention.
On some level I agree on the academics piece, but not your comments about diversity, discipline and character.
Remember my caveat : We are only trying to present counterpoint to the discussion.
As to diversity, many would argue single-sex education is the best way to prepare young men and women because it allows them to be themselves and put aside all the adolescent games that can interfere with learning in the classroom.
Just as there are others who would claim that such an environment ill-prepares an individual for a co-ed living situation at the University level.
Nor is discipline at Chaminade the result of a uniform. It is taught by enforcing a code of conduct in the school, holding kids accountable for their actions and giving them a volume of work that demands discipline. When you have all that you grow up.
We agree that discipline comes through individual responsibility.
I don't analogize it to the military, as you did, but West Point is consistently ranked among the top educational institutions in the country. They also, I think, have a pretty good record of churning out leaders year in and year out. Lastly, I agree character is more developed at home (hopefully) but there is no denying that the lessons reinforced at a place like Chaminade are key in terms of shaping the young men that go there. That is why I said the overall "product", in my opinion, is second to none on LI.
We appreciate your view.
Others can disageee, and that is fine, but what I realy was responding to was the "save your money" nonnsense.
Understood.
It may not be for you and your kid, but if you don't recognize what is happening at places like Chaminade you haven't been paying attention.
This can be said of many districts that have been excelling with their individual programs and academic college placement rates. Again, the purpose of our discussion was to provide counterpoints, not to assert the value of any one public district over or under Chaminade.
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Before BOTC responds to these points, let us up front say that we are only responding to provide counterpoint to why many of these arguments are pointless. Consider these points.
- Academics - Should we measure academic achievement through Advanced Placement exam results, number of participants, or SAT/ACT performance? Should we examine the results from Intel and Siemens competitions? How about attendance at National Youth Leadership Forums in Washington DC and elsewhere? Our point here is that any of these metrics can be made to say exactly what I want when I need the details.
- Diversity - Many universities are stressing diversity in their class selection including regions, race, culture, and many other elements. Is a self-selected, all-boys environment the best one in which to prepare for the diversity associated with a university environment?
- Discipline - If you want to stress that element, would a military education be superior? Does the fact that everyone wears a uniform define discipline?
- Character - How does one "measure" character? How do you know one is superior to another? Isn't character more developed at home rather than at school?
Our point is that the best at one High School surely out-performs the worst at another making all of the generalizations pointless. After all, one cannot point to statistics that espouse individual drive in college as being the critical success factor and then argue that somehow that factor does not exist at the scholastic level.
On some level I agree on the academics piece, but not your comments about diversity, discipline and character. As to diversity, many would argue single-sex education is the best way to prepare young men and women because it allows them to be themselves and put aside all the adolescent games that can interfere with learning in the classroom. Nor is discipline at Chaminade the result of a uniform. It is taught by enforcing a code of conduct in the school, holding kids accountable for their actions and giving them a volume of work that demands discipline. When you have all that you grow up. I don't analogize it to the military, as you did, but West Point is consistently ranked among the top educational institutions in the country. They also, I think, have a pretty good record of churning out leaders year in and year out. Lastly, I agree character is more developed at home (hopefully) but there is no denying that the lessons reinforced at a place like Chaminade are key in terms of shaping the young men that go there. That is why I said the overall "product", in my opinion, is second to none on LI. Others can disageee, and that is fine, but what I realy was responding to was the "save your money" nonnsense. It may not be for you and your kid, but if you don't recognize what is happening at places like Chaminade you haven't been paying attention.
Recognize what is happening at Chaminade?? If they are so great, where are their Intel and Siemans finalists? You would think such a fine, disiplined program woould represent at the most presigious scinece competitions. I still stick to the fact that many LI public school districts are out performing Chaminade in many areas. As for character and disipline, as stated, it begins at home. Just because a kid goes Chaminade does not inatanly give them character. Private may be a good choice if you come from a medocre district, but otherwise a waste of money.
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Before BOTC responds to these points, let us up front say that we are only responding to provide counterpoint to why many of these arguments are pointless. Consider these points.
- Academics - Should we measure academic achievement through Advanced Placement exam results, number of participants, or SAT/ACT performance? Should we examine the results from Intel and Siemens competitions? How about attendance at National Youth Leadership Forums in Washington DC and elsewhere? Our point here is that any of these metrics can be made to say exactly what I want when I need the details.
- Diversity - Many universities are stressing diversity in their class selection including regions, race, culture, and many other elements. Is a self-selected, all-boys environment the best one in which to prepare for the diversity associated with a university environment?
- Discipline - If you want to stress that element, would a military education be superior? Does the fact that everyone wears a uniform define discipline?
- Character - How does one "measure" character? How do you know one is superior to another? Isn't character more developed at home rather than at school?
Our point is that the best at one High School surely out-performs the worst at another making all of the generalizations pointless. After all, one cannot point to statistics that espouse individual drive in college as being the critical success factor and then argue that somehow that factor does not exist at the scholastic level.
On some level I agree on the academics piece, but not your comments about diversity, discipline and character. As to diversity, many would argue single-sex education is the best way to prepare young men and women because it allows them to be themselves and put aside all the adolescent games that can interfere with learning in the classroom. Nor is discipline at Chaminade the result of a uniform. It is taught by enforcing a code of conduct in the school, holding kids accountable for their actions and giving them a volume of work that demands discipline. When you have all that you grow up. I don't analogize it to the military, as you did, but West Point is consistently ranked among the top educational institutions in the country. They also, I think, have a pretty good record of churning out leaders year in and year out. Lastly, I agree character is more developed at home (hopefully) but there is no denying that the lessons reinforced at a place like Chaminade are key in terms of shaping the young men that go there. That is why I said the overall "product", in my opinion, is second to none on LI. Others can disageee, and that is fine, but what I realy was responding to was the "save your money" nonnsense. It may not be for you and your kid, but if you don't recognize what is happening at places like Chaminade you haven't been paying attention.
Recognize what is happening at Chaminade?? If they are so great, where are their Intel and Siemans finalists? You would think such a fine, disiplined program woould represent at the most presigious scinece competitions. I still stick to the fact that many LI public school districts are out performing Chaminade in many areas. As for character and disipline, as stated, it begins at home. Just because a kid goes Chaminade does not inatanly give them character. Private may be a good choice if you come from a medocre district, but otherwise a waste of money.
Choosing a Catholic education is a personal descision and calling "waste of money" is certainly "your" personal opinion, but far from a fact. Some people (maybe not on this site) decide based on things other than lacrosse.
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Before BOTC responds to these points, let us up front say that we are only responding to provide counterpoint to why many of these arguments are pointless. Consider these points.
- Academics - Should we measure academic achievement through Advanced Placement exam results, number of participants, or SAT/ACT performance? Should we examine the results from Intel and Siemens competitions? How about attendance at National Youth Leadership Forums in Washington DC and elsewhere? Our point here is that any of these metrics can be made to say exactly what I want when I need the details.
- Diversity - Many universities are stressing diversity in their class selection including regions, race, culture, and many other elements. Is a self-selected, all-boys environment the best one in which to prepare for the diversity associated with a university environment?
- Discipline - If you want to stress that element, would a military education be superior? Does the fact that everyone wears a uniform define discipline?
- Character - How does one "measure" character? How do you know one is superior to another? Isn't character more developed at home rather than at school?
Our point is that the best at one High School surely out-performs the worst at another making all of the generalizations pointless. After all, one cannot point to statistics that espouse individual drive in college as being the critical success factor and then argue that somehow that factor does not exist at the scholastic level.
On some level I agree on the academics piece, but not your comments about diversity, discipline and character. As to diversity, many would argue single-sex education is the best way to prepare young men and women because it allows them to be themselves and put aside all the adolescent games that can interfere with learning in the classroom. Nor is discipline at Chaminade the result of a uniform. It is taught by enforcing a code of conduct in the school, holding kids accountable for their actions and giving them a volume of work that demands discipline. When you have all that you grow up. I don't analogize it to the military, as you did, but West Point is consistently ranked among the top educational institutions in the country. They also, I think, have a pretty good record of churning out leaders year in and year out. Lastly, I agree character is more developed at home (hopefully) but there is no denying that the lessons reinforced at a place like Chaminade are key in terms of shaping the young men that go there. That is why I said the overall "product", in my opinion, is second to none on LI. Others can disageee, and that is fine, but what I realy was responding to was the "save your money" nonnsense. It may not be for you and your kid, but if you don't recognize what is happening at places like Chaminade you haven't been paying attention.
Recognize what is happening at Chaminade?? If they are so great, where are their Intel and Siemans finalists? You would think such a fine, disiplined program woould represent at the most presigious scinece competitions. I still stick to the fact that many LI public school districts are out performing Chaminade in many areas. As for character and disipline, as stated, it begins at home. Just because a kid goes Chaminade does not inatanly give them character. Private may be a good choice if you come from a medocre district, but otherwise a waste of money.
Choosing a Catholic education is a personal descision and calling "waste of money" is certainly "your" personal opinion, but far from a fact. Some people (maybe not on this site) decide based on things other than lacrosse.
Already tried to make that point days ago. But people actually think parents choose Catholic School because of lacrosse.
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Before BOTC responds to these points, let us up front say that we are only responding to provide counterpoint to why many of these arguments are pointless. Consider these points.
- Academics - Should we measure academic achievement through Advanced Placement exam results, number of participants, or SAT/ACT performance? Should we examine the results from Intel and Siemens competitions? How about attendance at National Youth Leadership Forums in Washington DC and elsewhere? Our point here is that any of these metrics can be made to say exactly what I want when I need the details.
- Diversity - Many universities are stressing diversity in their class selection including regions, race, culture, and many other elements. Is a self-selected, all-boys environment the best one in which to prepare for the diversity associated with a university environment?
- Discipline - If you want to stress that element, would a military education be superior? Does the fact that everyone wears a uniform define discipline?
- Character - How does one "measure" character? How do you know one is superior to another? Isn't character more developed at home rather than at school?
Our point is that the best at one High School surely out-performs the worst at another making all of the generalizations pointless. After all, one cannot point to statistics that espouse individual drive in college as being the critical success factor and then argue that somehow that factor does not exist at the scholastic level.
On some level I agree on the academics piece, but not your comments about diversity, discipline and character. As to diversity, many would argue single-sex education is the best way to prepare young men and women because it allows them to be themselves and put aside all the adolescent games that can interfere with learning in the classroom. Nor is discipline at Chaminade the result of a uniform. It is taught by enforcing a code of conduct in the school, holding kids accountable for their actions and giving them a volume of work that demands discipline. When you have all that you grow up. I don't analogize it to the military, as you did, but West Point is consistently ranked among the top educational institutions in the country. They also, I think, have a pretty good record of churning out leaders year in and year out. Lastly, I agree character is more developed at home (hopefully) but there is no denying that the lessons reinforced at a place like Chaminade are key in terms of shaping the young men that go there. That is why I said the overall "product", in my opinion, is second to none on LI. Others can disageee, and that is fine, but what I realy was responding to was the "save your money" nonnsense. It may not be for you and your kid, but if you don't recognize what is happening at places like Chaminade you haven't been paying attention.
Recognize what is happening at Chaminade?? If they are so great, where are their Intel and Siemans finalists? You would think such a fine, disiplined program woould represent at the most presigious scinece competitions. I still stick to the fact that many LI public school districts are out performing Chaminade in many areas. As for character and disipline, as stated, it begins at home. Just because a kid goes Chaminade does not inatanly give them character. Private may be a good choice if you come from a medocre district, but otherwise a waste of money.
Choosing a Catholic education is a personal descision and calling "waste of money" is certainly "your" personal opinion, but far from a fact. Some people (maybe not on this site) decide based on things other than lacrosse.
Already tried to make that point days ago. But people actually think parents choose Catholic School because of lacrosse.
I would believe there are a lot of students who choose eother school not for sports.... but.... If you are on this site and you choose StA or Chamy you are choosing because of sports.
U r missing his point!!! He is not talking about GT Law school. DA.
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Before BOTC responds to these points, let us up front say that we are only responding to provide counterpoint to why many of these arguments are pointless. Consider these points.
- Academics - Should we measure academic achievement through Advanced Placement exam results, number of participants, or SAT/ACT performance? Should we examine the results from Intel and Siemens competitions? How about attendance at National Youth Leadership Forums in Washington DC and elsewhere? Our point here is that any of these metrics can be made to say exactly what I want when I need the details.
- Diversity - Many universities are stressing diversity in their class selection including regions, race, culture, and many other elements. Is a self-selected, all-boys environment the best one in which to prepare for the diversity associated with a university environment?
- Discipline - If you want to stress that element, would a military education be superior? Does the fact that everyone wears a uniform define discipline?
- Character - How does one "measure" character? How do you know one is superior to another? Isn't character more developed at home rather than at school?
Our point is that the best at one High School surely out-performs the worst at another making all of the generalizations pointless. After all, one cannot point to statistics that espouse individual drive in college as being the critical success factor and then argue that somehow that factor does not exist at the scholastic level.
On some level I agree on the academics piece, but not your comments about diversity, discipline and character. As to diversity, many would argue single-sex education is the best way to prepare young men and women because it allows them to be themselves and put aside all the adolescent games that can interfere with learning in the classroom. Nor is discipline at Chaminade the result of a uniform. It is taught by enforcing a code of conduct in the school, holding kids accountable for their actions and giving them a volume of work that demands discipline. When you have all that you grow up. I don't analogize it to the military, as you did, but West Point is consistently ranked among the top educational institutions in the country. They also, I think, have a pretty good record of churning out leaders year in and year out. Lastly, I agree character is more developed at home (hopefully) but there is no denying that the lessons reinforced at a place like Chaminade are key in terms of shaping the young men that go there. That is why I said the overall "product", in my opinion, is second to none on LI. Others can disageee, and that is fine, but what I realy was responding to was the "save your money" nonnsense. It may not be for you and your kid, but if you don't recognize what is happening at places like Chaminade you haven't been paying attention.
Recognize what is happening at Chaminade?? If they are so great, where are their Intel and Siemans finalists? You would think such a fine, disiplined program woould represent at the most presigious scinece competitions. I still stick to the fact that many LI public school districts are out performing Chaminade in many areas. As for character and disipline, as stated, it begins at home. Just because a kid goes Chaminade does not inatanly give them character. Private may be a good choice if you come from a medocre district, but otherwise a waste of money.
I come from a very good district and still choose to sent mine to a Catholic and I don't find it a waste of my money. You really should not tell people how to spend their money much like i would never tell you how to spend yours. i think your example is a bad one anyway. Only a hand full of kids get Intel or Siemens and that is not indicative of the district as a whole but rather of those individual students. You should look at the % going to 2 and 4 year colleges and the quality of the schools they are going too. Once you do that i think you will find the publics are not out performing St A's or Chaminade.
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Before BOTC responds to these points, let us up front say that we are only responding to provide counterpoint to why many of these arguments are pointless. Consider these points.
- Academics - Should we measure academic achievement through Advanced Placement exam results, number of participants, or SAT/ACT performance? Should we examine the results from Intel and Siemens competitions? How about attendance at National Youth Leadership Forums in Washington DC and elsewhere? Our point here is that any of these metrics can be made to say exactly what I want when I need the details.
- Diversity - Many universities are stressing diversity in their class selection including regions, race, culture, and many other elements. Is a self-selected, all-boys environment the best one in which to prepare for the diversity associated with a university environment?
- Discipline - If you want to stress that element, would a military education be superior? Does the fact that everyone wears a uniform define discipline?
- Character - How does one "measure" character? How do you know one is superior to another? Isn't character more developed at home rather than at school?
Our point is that the best at one High School surely out-performs the worst at another making all of the generalizations pointless. After all, one cannot point to statistics that espouse individual drive in college as being the critical success factor and then argue that somehow that factor does not exist at the scholastic level.
On some level I agree on the academics piece, but not your comments about diversity, discipline and character. As to diversity, many would argue single-sex education is the best way to prepare young men and women because it allows them to be themselves and put aside all the adolescent games that can interfere with learning in the classroom. Nor is discipline at Chaminade the result of a uniform. It is taught by enforcing a code of conduct in the school, holding kids accountable for their actions and giving them a volume of work that demands discipline. When you have all that you grow up. I don't analogize it to the military, as you did, but West Point is consistently ranked among the top educational institutions in the country. They also, I think, have a pretty good record of churning out leaders year in and year out. Lastly, I agree character is more developed at home (hopefully) but there is no denying that the lessons reinforced at a place like Chaminade are key in terms of shaping the young men that go there. That is why I said the overall "product", in my opinion, is second to none on LI. Others can disageee, and that is fine, but what I realy was responding to was the "save your money" nonnsense. It may not be for you and your kid, but if you don't recognize what is happening at places like Chaminade you haven't been paying attention.
Recognize what is happening at Chaminade?? If they are so great, where are their Intel and Siemans finalists? You would think such a fine, disiplined program woould represent at the most presigious scinece competitions. I still stick to the fact that many LI public school districts are out performing Chaminade in many areas. As for character and disipline, as stated, it begins at home. Just because a kid goes Chaminade does not inatanly give them character. Private may be a good choice if you come from a medocre district, but otherwise a waste of money.
I come from a very good district and still choose to sent mine to a Catholic and I don't find it a waste of my money. You really should not tell people how to spend their money much like i would never tell you how to spend yours. i think your example is a bad one anyway. Only a hand full of kids get Intel or Siemens and that is not indicative of the district as a whole but rather of those individual students. You should look at the % going to 2 and 4 year colleges and the quality of the schools they are going too. Once you do that i think you will find the publics are not out performing St A's or Chaminade.
I think alot has to do with the individual student. What fits and doesnt fit. My son gets all A's or better in a very competitive academic school district and we discussed the Catholic school route for academics and sports. As per his choice he didnt feel it would work for him. He enjoys his friends and the diversity of his school. This is not a knock on Catholic Schools just that you need to keep in mind what will work for your child. As for choosing the Catholic School for sport purposes again that is your choice. If your child doesnt make the team he is guaranteed a top notch education in a very structured enviornment. There are no guarantees your kid will make the team either.
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Before BOTC responds to these points, let us up front say that we are only responding to provide counterpoint to why many of these arguments are pointless. Consider these points.
- Academics - Should we measure academic achievement through Advanced Placement exam results, number of participants, or SAT/ACT performance? Should we examine the results from Intel and Siemens competitions? How about attendance at National Youth Leadership Forums in Washington DC and elsewhere? Our point here is that any of these metrics can be made to say exactly what I want when I need the details.
- Diversity - Many universities are stressing diversity in their class selection including regions, race, culture, and many other elements. Is a self-selected, all-boys environment the best one in which to prepare for the diversity associated with a university environment?
- Discipline - If you want to stress that element, would a military education be superior? Does the fact that everyone wears a uniform define discipline?
- Character - How does one "measure" character? How do you know one is superior to another? Isn't character more developed at home rather than at school?
Our point is that the best at one High School surely out-performs the worst at another making all of the generalizations pointless. After all, one cannot point to statistics that espouse individual drive in college as being the critical success factor and then argue that somehow that factor does not exist at the scholastic level.
On some level I agree on the academics piece, but not your comments about diversity, discipline and character. As to diversity, many would argue single-sex education is the best way to prepare young men and women because it allows them to be themselves and put aside all the adolescent games that can interfere with learning in the classroom. Nor is discipline at Chaminade the result of a uniform. It is taught by enforcing a code of conduct in the school, holding kids accountable for their actions and giving them a volume of work that demands discipline. When you have all that you grow up. I don't analogize it to the military, as you did, but West Point is consistently ranked among the top educational institutions in the country. They also, I think, have a pretty good record of churning out leaders year in and year out. Lastly, I agree character is more developed at home (hopefully) but there is no denying that the lessons reinforced at a place like Chaminade are key in terms of shaping the young men that go there. That is why I said the overall "product", in my opinion, is second to none on LI. Others can disageee, and that is fine, but what I realy was responding to was the "save your money" nonnsense. It may not be for you and your kid, but if you don't recognize what is happening at places like Chaminade you haven't been paying attention.
Recognize what is happening at Chaminade?? If they are so great, where are their Intel and Siemans finalists? You would think such a fine, disiplined program woould represent at the most presigious scinece competitions. I still stick to the fact that many LI public school districts are out performing Chaminade in many areas. As for character and disipline, as stated, it begins at home. Just because a kid goes Chaminade does not inatanly give them character. Private may be a good choice if you come from a medocre district, but otherwise a waste of money.
I come from a very good district and still choose to sent mine to a Catholic and I don't find it a waste of my money. You really should not tell people how to spend their money much like i would never tell you how to spend yours. i think your example is a bad one anyway. Only a hand full of kids get Intel or Siemens and that is not indicative of the district as a whole but rather of those individual students. You should look at the % going to 2 and 4 year colleges and the quality of the schools they are going too. Once you do that i think you will find the publics are not out performing St A's or Chaminade.
I think alot has to do with the individual student. What fits and doesnt fit. My son gets all A's or better in a very competitive academic school district and we discussed the Catholic school route for academics and sports. As per his choice he didnt feel it would work for him. He enjoys his friends and the diversity of his school. This is not a knock on Catholic Schools just that you need to keep in mind what will work for your child. As for choosing the Catholic School for sport purposes again that is your choice. If your child doesnt make the team he is guaranteed a top notch education in a very structured enviornment. There are no guarantees your kid will make the team either.
Wrong again, the top public schools have the same percentage of seinors going to pretigous 4 year universities as Cham and SA. My son has friends at private schools that all have to hire private tutors because the teaching is so bad. Think about it. Why would a teacher work at private when they make 2x as much at public, therefor public attracts better educators on average. Private school teachers don't even have to be certifed! Scary! With great Lax programs as well as a top notch academics, no reason to go private!
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Before BOTC responds to these points, let us up front say that we are only responding to provide counterpoint to why many of these arguments are pointless. Consider these points.
- Academics - Should we measure academic achievement through Advanced Placement exam results, number of participants, or SAT/ACT performance? Should we examine the results from Intel and Siemens competitions? How about attendance at National Youth Leadership Forums in Washington DC and elsewhere? Our point here is that any of these metrics can be made to say exactly what I want when I need the details.
- Diversity - Many universities are stressing diversity in their class selection including regions, race, culture, and many other elements. Is a self-selected, all-boys environment the best one in which to prepare for the diversity associated with a university environment?
- Discipline - If you want to stress that element, would a military education be superior? Does the fact that everyone wears a uniform define discipline?
- Character - How does one "measure" character? How do you know one is superior to another? Isn't character more developed at home rather than at school?
Our point is that the best at one High School surely out-performs the worst at another making all of the generalizations pointless. After all, one cannot point to statistics that espouse individual drive in college as being the critical success factor and then argue that somehow that factor does not exist at the scholastic level.
On some level I agree on the academics piece, but not your comments about diversity, discipline and character. As to diversity, many would argue single-sex education is the best way to prepare young men and women because it allows them to be themselves and put aside all the adolescent games that can interfere with learning in the classroom. Nor is discipline at Chaminade the result of a uniform. It is taught by enforcing a code of conduct in the school, holding kids accountable for their actions and giving them a volume of work that demands discipline. When you have all that you grow up. I don't analogize it to the military, as you did, but West Point is consistently ranked among the top educational institutions in the country. They also, I think, have a pretty good record of churning out leaders year in and year out. Lastly, I agree character is more developed at home (hopefully) but there is no denying that the lessons reinforced at a place like Chaminade are key in terms of shaping the young men that go there. That is why I said the overall "product", in my opinion, is second to none on LI. Others can disageee, and that is fine, but what I realy was responding to was the "save your money" nonnsense. It may not be for you and your kid, but if you don't recognize what is happening at places like Chaminade you haven't been paying attention.
Recognize what is happening at Chaminade?? If they are so great, where are their Intel and Siemans finalists? You would think such a fine, disiplined program woould represent at the most presigious scinece competitions. I still stick to the fact that many LI public school districts are out performing Chaminade in many areas. As for character and disipline, as stated, it begins at home. Just because a kid goes Chaminade does not inatanly give them character. Private may be a good choice if you come from a medocre district, but otherwise a waste of money.
I come from a very good district and still choose to sent mine to a Catholic and I don't find it a waste of my money. You really should not tell people how to spend their money much like i would never tell you how to spend yours. i think your example is a bad one anyway. Only a hand full of kids get Intel or Siemens and that is not indicative of the district as a whole but rather of those individual students. You should look at the % going to 2 and 4 year colleges and the quality of the schools they are going too. Once you do that i think you will find the publics are not out performing St A's or Chaminade.
Do you not realize that the public schools allow ALL the kids in that town to go to said school. Hence, no district as a whole could measure up to the hand selected student body at a Chaminade. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they don't take students that struggle for whatever reason. Nor do they take kids with behavioral or substance abuse issues. They take the top scorers on the test. Yet somehow many districts have incredible graduation rates as well as high percentages of students going to 4 year schools, that rival the privates. Point is the average kid who goes to Cham most likely would do just as well academically if they stayed public. Much less to do with the school, much more to do with student selection process.
This person is obtuse! There are many reasons to chose either public, private, or Catholic schools. Each of these approaches has ultimately developed some pretty outstanding people as well as some pretty horrible people. To say generically that either approach is inferior or superior is missing the boat! Parents need to make the determination for their particular child. As an example, if a set of parents felt that it was important for their child to develop a deeper understanding of their faith while also pursuing academics, then the Catholic schools seem like a reasonable option to pursue. If that is not a priority, then perhaps Catholic schools are not a consideration. It all comes down to individual choice and decisions made by the parents who know their child best and what they feel will help develop that child into the best possible adult for the future.
"behavioral or substance abuse issues..."...Ha! I should mention that to my son's friend who was caught dealing pot out of his locker at Chaminade. Please..kids are kids. The selection process at Chaminade has no way of knowing who will do what and when. It's spitting in the wind. Parents make their choices for whatever works for their family. To say that Chaminade is immune from behavioral and substance abuse issues due to their selection process is just wrong. Be real. What goes on in any school has nothing to do with the selection process. We all make our choices and hope for the best. But...good kids from good families sometimes make really stupid decisions. I don't think that is limited to what school they attend.
Northport has the following going to d1 schools and they just play for Northport
2 Maryland
1 UNC
1 Binghamton
1 Stonybrook
Plus many other D2 and d3 commitments.
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Before BOTC responds to these points, let us up front say that we are only responding to provide counterpoint to why many of these arguments are pointless. Consider these points.
- Academics - Should we measure academic achievement through Advanced Placement exam results, number of participants, or SAT/ACT performance? Should we examine the results from Intel and Siemens competitions? How about attendance at National Youth Leadership Forums in Washington DC and elsewhere? Our point here is that any of these metrics can be made to say exactly what I want when I need the details.
- Diversity - Many universities are stressing diversity in their class selection including regions, race, culture, and many other elements. Is a self-selected, all-boys environment the best one in which to prepare for the diversity associated with a university environment?
- Discipline - If you want to stress that element, would a military education be superior? Does the fact that everyone wears a uniform define discipline?
- Character - How does one "measure" character? How do you know one is superior to another? Isn't character more developed at home rather than at school?
Our point is that the best at one High School surely out-performs the worst at another making all of the generalizations pointless. After all, one cannot point to statistics that espouse individual drive in college as being the critical success factor and then argue that somehow that factor does not exist at the scholastic level.
On some level I agree on the academics piece, but not your comments about diversity, discipline and character. As to diversity, many would argue single-sex education is the best way to prepare young men and women because it allows them to be themselves and put aside all the adolescent games that can interfere with learning in the classroom. Nor is discipline at Chaminade the result of a uniform. It is taught by enforcing a code of conduct in the school, holding kids accountable for their actions and giving them a volume of work that demands discipline. When you have all that you grow up. I don't analogize it to the military, as you did, but West Point is consistently ranked among the top educational institutions in the country. They also, I think, have a pretty good record of churning out leaders year in and year out. Lastly, I agree character is more developed at home (hopefully) but there is no denying that the lessons reinforced at a place like Chaminade are key in terms of shaping the young men that go there. That is why I said the overall "product", in my opinion, is second to none on LI. Others can disageee, and that is fine, but what I realy was responding to was the "save your money" nonnsense. It may not be for you and your kid, but if you don't recognize what is happening at places like Chaminade you haven't been paying attention.
Recognize what is happening at Chaminade?? If they are so great, where are their Intel and Siemans finalists? You would think such a fine, disiplined program woould represent at the most presigious scinece competitions. I still stick to the fact that many LI public school districts are out performing Chaminade in many areas. As for character and disipline, as stated, it begins at home. Just because a kid goes Chaminade does not inatanly give them character. Private may be a good choice if you come from a medocre district, but otherwise a waste of money.
I come from a very good district and still choose to sent mine to a Catholic and I don't find it a waste of my money. You really should not tell people how to spend their money much like i would never tell you how to spend yours. i think your example is a bad one anyway. Only a hand full of kids get Intel or Siemens and that is not indicative of the district as a whole but rather of those individual students. You should look at the % going to 2 and 4 year colleges and the quality of the schools they are going too. Once you do that i think you will find the publics are not out performing St A's or Chaminade.
Do you not realize that the public schools allow ALL the kids in that town to go to said school. Hence, no district as a whole could measure up to the hand selected student body at a Chaminade. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they don't take students that struggle for whatever reason. Nor do they take kids with behavioral or substance abuse issues. They take the top scorers on the test. Yet somehow many districts have incredible graduation rates as well as high percentages of students going to 4 year schools, that rival the privates. Point is the average kid who goes to Cham most likely would do just as well academically if they stayed public. Much less to do with the school, much more to do with student selection process.
yes i do and that is exactly the point. would rather have my kid competing academically in that environment which by your admission is more competitive than one where "everyone" can go.
Measure academics you ask? Well, measure them like ALL colleges do: GPA associated with college profile, and SAT/ACT
You are out of your mind if you think public school on LI are superior to Chaminade.....The overall "product" produced at Chaminade (athletics, academics, discipline, character, etc.) is just not found elsewhere. If you want to save your money that is fine but don't start with the nonsense hating.
Before BOTC responds to these points, let us up front say that we are only responding to provide counterpoint to why many of these arguments are pointless. Consider these points.
- Academics - Should we measure academic achievement through Advanced Placement exam results, number of participants, or SAT/ACT performance? Should we examine the results from Intel and Siemens competitions? How about attendance at National Youth Leadership Forums in Washington DC and elsewhere? Our point here is that any of these metrics can be made to say exactly what I want when I need the details.
- Diversity - Many universities are stressing diversity in their class selection including regions, race, culture, and many other elements. Is a self-selected, all-boys environment the best one in which to prepare for the diversity associated with a university environment?
- Discipline - If you want to stress that element, would a military education be superior? Does the fact that everyone wears a uniform define discipline?
- Character - How does one "measure" character? How do you know one is superior to another? Isn't character more developed at home rather than at school?
Our point is that the best at one High School surely out-performs the worst at another making all of the generalizations pointless. After all, one cannot point to statistics that espouse individual drive in college as being the critical success factor and then argue that somehow that factor does not exist at the scholastic level.
On some level I agree on the academics piece, but not your comments about diversity, discipline and character. As to diversity, many would argue single-sex education is the best way to prepare young men and women because it allows them to be themselves and put aside all the adolescent games that can interfere with learning in the classroom. Nor is discipline at Chaminade the result of a uniform. It is taught by enforcing a code of conduct in the school, holding kids accountable for their actions and giving them a volume of work that demands discipline. When you have all that you grow up. I don't analogize it to the military, as you did, but West Point is consistently ranked among the top educational institutions in the country. They also, I think, have a pretty good record of churning out leaders year in and year out. Lastly, I agree character is more developed at home (hopefully) but there is no denying that the lessons reinforced at a place like Chaminade are key in terms of shaping the young men that go there. That is why I said the overall "product", in my opinion, is second to none on LI. Others can disageee, and that is fine, but what I realy was responding to was the "save your money" nonnsense. It may not be for you and your kid, but if you don't recognize what is happening at places like Chaminade you haven't been paying attention.
Recognize what is happening at Chaminade?? If they are so great, where are their Intel and Siemans finalists? You would think such a fine, disiplined program woould represent at the most presigious scinece competitions. I still stick to the fact that many LI public school districts are out performing Chaminade in many areas. As for character and disipline, as stated, it begins at home. Just because a kid goes Chaminade does not inatanly give them character. Private may be a good choice if you come from a medocre district, but otherwise a waste of money.
I come from a very good district and still choose to sent mine to a Catholic and I don't find it a waste of my money. You really should not tell people how to spend their money much like i would never tell you how to spend yours. i think your example is a bad one anyway. Only a hand full of kids get Intel or Siemens and that is not indicative of the district as a whole but rather of those individual students. You should look at the % going to 2 and 4 year colleges and the quality of the schools they are going too. Once you do that i think you will find the publics are not out performing St A's or Chaminade.
Do you not realize that the public schools allow ALL the kids in that town to go to said school. Hence, no district as a whole could measure up to the hand selected student body at a Chaminade. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they don't take students that struggle for whatever reason. Nor do they take kids with behavioral or substance abuse issues. They take the top scorers on the test. Yet somehow many districts have incredible graduation rates as well as high percentages of students going to 4 year schools, that rival the privates. Point is the average kid who goes to Cham most likely would do just as well academically if they stayed public. Much less to do with the school, much more to do with student selection process.
"behavioral or substance abuse issues..."...Ha! I should mention that to my son's friend who was caught dealing pot out of his locker at Chaminade. Please..kids are kids. The selection process at Chaminade has no way of knowing who will do what and when. It's spitting in the wind. Parents make their choices for whatever works for their family. To say that Chaminade is immune from behavioral and substance abuse issues due to their selection process is just wrong. Be real. What goes on in any school has nothing to do with the selection process. We all make our choices and hope for the best. But...good kids from good families sometimes make really stupid decisions. I don't think that is limited to what school they attend.
And what happened to that kid? If he got caught, he will never be back at that school. In public, suspension and back at some point. That's the point, the privates don't have to deal with problems they jettison them. Deal pot, out. Steal out. Grades go down out. Fight out. Thus their stats look so much better. Great school, but never an apples to apples comparison.
Can we all just chill. It is not about data comparisons, individual achievements, sports, etc. It is about choice and culture. I make the financial sacrifice to send my kids to Catholic school (not for lax, I'll say it again, not for lax) to continue the foundation started at home and carried on at school. So they are best equipped to leave the roost to make the correct choices and deal with the outcome of poor choices.
"behavioral or substance abuse issues..."...Ha! I should mention that to my son's friend who was caught dealing pot out of his locker at Chaminade. Please..kids are kids. The selection process at Chaminade has no way of knowing who will do what and when. It's spitting in the wind. Parents make their choices for whatever works for their family. To say that Chaminade is immune from behavioral and substance abuse issues due to their selection process is just wrong. Be real. What goes on in any school has nothing to do with the selection process. We all make our choices and hope for the best. But...good kids from good families sometimes make really stupid decisions. I don't think that is limited to what school they attend.
And what happened to that kid? If he got caught, he will never be back at that school. In public, suspension and back at some point. That's the point, the privates don't have to deal with problems they jettison them. Deal pot, out. Steal out. Grades go down out. Fight out. Thus their stats look so much better. Great school, but never an apples to apples comparison.
Doesn't the punishment depend on who the daddy is?
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Well, we hope you are not teaching your son grammar. Check out your use of "deduct."
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Hey, don't let the facts get in the way.
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Taking AP courses in High School is not enough to stamp yourself as worthy of Top 40 institutions. Taking the most rigorous courses available at your High School is a baseline requirement with performance in those courses and so many other factors contributing to the final acceptance. However, you are correct that Advanced Placement does contribute heavily.
Another point to remember is that while courses can be waived (for example, a "4" or "5" on the Calculus BC exam will often waive first and second semester College Calculus), you will need to check with the individual school regarding credits in residence requirements; in other words, do the credits awarded count to the number needed for the degree or just do they just waive the need to take a given course?
Also note that some school districts (Commack for example) do not typically follow an AP Curriculum, but license the International Baccalaureate (IB) system. Lesser known than the AP Program, IB offers similar course work with a slightly different focus on writing skills.
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Best teachers? If you do not think that the kids in the top performing public schools are not getting extra help from involved parents and private tutors you have your head in the sand.
Lets have the teachers from Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor and Commack trade places with the teachers from the bottom three public districts and see what happens.
Taking AP courses in High School is not enough to stamp yourself as worthy of Top 40 institutions. Taking the most rigorous courses available at your High School is a baseline requirement with performance in those courses and so many other factors contributing to the final acceptance. However, you are correct that Advanced Placement does contribute heavily.
Ironically, Newsday published an article just today citing that New [lacrosse] State is currently ranked 7th in the nation on AP test scores.
NYS Ranks 7th in Nation in AP Test ScoresNew [lacrosse] placed seventh nationally in the percentage of public high school students succeeding on Advanced Placement exams in 2013, moving one step up compared with 2012, according to a College Board report released Tuesday.
Maryland was at the top, with 29.6 percent of students there who took the exams scoring a 3 or better, followed by Connecticut, Virginia, Massachusetts, Florida and California. The top score on the tests is 5.
New [lacrosse] came in at 25.4 percent, above the 23.5 percent of 2012, when the state ranked eighth nationwide, the Manhattan-based College Board said.The article goes on to discuss that 44,909 students in New [lacrosse] State scored a 3 or better on at least one exam in comparison with 29,479 in 2003. Of course, the broader push for AP exams over the last decade is in part underpinning this data point. In fact, some districts are reporting an increase of nearly 100% in AP/IB course registrants over just the last five years.
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Best teachers? If you do not think that the kids in the top performing public schools are not getting extra help from involved parents and private tutors you have your head in the sand.
Lets have the teachers from Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor and Commack trade places with the teachers from the bottom three public districts and see what happens.
At least they are certified (passed qualifying exam, and are mandated to take additional course work)to teach their subjects, and are held accountable for their results!!
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Best teachers? If you do not think that the kids in the top performing public schools are not getting extra help from involved parents and private tutors you have your head in the sand.
Lets have the teachers from Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor and Commack trade places with the teachers from the bottom three public districts and see what happens.
At least they are certified (passed qualifying exam, and are mandated to take additional course work)to teach their subjects, and are held accountable for their results!!
Overrated...big time
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Best teachers? If you do not think that the kids in the top performing public schools are not getting extra help from involved parents and private tutors you have your head in the sand.
Lets have the teachers from Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor and Commack trade places with the teachers from the bottom three public districts and see what happens.
At least they are certified (passed qualifying exam, and are mandated to take additional course work)to teach their subjects, and are held accountable for their results!!
Stop. There are some great public schools with great teachers and students. However, none of these compare to csh or private more broadly. Teachers teach to the bottom and when you can self select the bar is always higher. College placement is really the only objective comparison and it's not even close.
You are mistaken if you think rich kids go to Chaminade. Many tax rates are represented and don't fool yourself thinking that just because your son didn't have the foresight to take the test. Many are given scholarships in addition to a nice discount in tuition due to generous torch fund. And btw the last mention goes for each and every student. And I find it puzzling why every year you hear public school parents complain why their 3 ap class child bombed on the sat. Happenned in my town and they complain to the school board. It's a joke. Don't even get me started on public school teachers!
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Best teachers? If you do not think that the kids in the top performing public schools are not getting extra help from involved parents and private tutors you have your head in the sand.
Lets have the teachers from Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor and Commack trade places with the teachers from the bottom three public districts and see what happens.
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Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Best teachers? If you do not think that the kids in the top performing public schools are not getting extra help from involved parents and private tutors you have your head in the sand.
Lets have the teachers from Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor and Commack trade places with the teachers from the bottom three public districts and see what happens.
At least they are certified (passed qualifying exam, and are mandated to take additional course work)to teach their subjects, and are held accountable for their results!!
Stop. There are some great public schools with great teachers and students. However, none of these compare to csh or private more broadly. Teachers teach to the bottom and when you can self select the bar is always higher. College placement is really the only objective comparison and it's not even close.
Stats please! Educated people back up their opinions with actual data, or else what you are attempting to say is meaningless
You are mistaken if you think rich kids go to Chaminade. Many tax rates are represented and don't fool yourself thinking that just because your son didn't have the foresight to take the test. Many are given scholarships in addition to a nice discount in tuition due to generous torch fund. And btw the last mention goes for each and every student. And I find it puzzling why every year you hear public school parents complain why their 3 ap class child bombed on the sat. Happenned in my town and they complain to the school board. It's a joke. Don't even get me started on public school teachers!
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Best teachers? If you do not think that the kids in the top performing public schools are not getting extra help from involved parents and private tutors you have your head in the sand.
Lets have the teachers from Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor and Commack trade places with the teachers from the bottom three public districts and see what happens.
Why not? Are you angry that you are paying top dollar for non-certified teachers who are not held accountable for their results? I would be!
Stop. There are some great public schools with great teachers and students. However, none of these compare to csh or private more broadly. Teachers teach to the bottom and when you can self select the bar is always higher. College placement is really the only objective comparison and it's not even close.
Stats please! Educated people back up their opinions with actual data, or else what you are attempting to say is meaningless
Manhasset High School average SAT score 1250 versus 1278 for Chaminade (Chaminade does not report the third SAT score); St. A's does not report scores. Not bad for MHS considering they take all comers and are unable to select the cream of the crop that Chaminade allegedly selects.
Seriously, Chaminade is wonderful school (as is St. A's), but both the people on the Catholic side of this argument and on the Public side of the argument are being a bit ridiculous.
Stats? Not going to waste my time. It's all public information anyway. Good luck and do yourself a favor - and stop comparing your situation to Chaminade. You'll lose every time.
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Best teachers? If you do not think that the kids in the top performing public schools are not getting extra help from involved parents and private tutors you have your head in the sand.
Lets have the teachers from Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor and Commack trade places with the teachers from the bottom three public districts and see what happens.
At least they are certified (passed qualifying exam, and are mandated to take additional course work)to teach their subjects, and are held accountable for their results!!
Stop. There are some great public schools with great teachers and students. However, none of these compare to csh or private more broadly. Teachers teach to the bottom and when you can self select the bar is always higher. College placement is really the only objective comparison and it's not even close.
Stats please! Educated people back up their opinions with actual data, or else what you are attempting to say is meaningless
Cage, hopefully you can let this link through.. not sure where to post it. It would work in just about every thread. This goes for older kids too, trust me I know.
http://fulleryouthinstitute.org/blo...say-to-their-kids-about-sportsor-any-per
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Jesters "Black"
Excellent post and six words to live by.
To provide some insight, I am now on the "north" side of college so these words resonate with me personally. Would love the chance to watch just one more game.
Thank you for the contribution.
"Stats? Not going to waste my time. It's all public information anyway. Good luck and do yourself a favor - and stop comparing your situation to Chaminade. You'll lose every time."
Just like I thought, you've got nothing, except an empty wallet!
Can we stop this and talk lax. This is a n amazingly talented age group. Hopefully they'll play a lot during the spring and summer.
Funny but I was under the impression that the kids that went to catholic school couldn't cut it in a public school, whether it be discipline issues, trying to get away from the drugs that they were on previously, etc. Two different people, two different opinions.
Funny but I was under the impression that the kids that went to catholic school couldn't cut it in a public school, whether it be discipline issues, trying to get away from the drugs that they were on previously, etc. Two different people, two different opinions.
I know 50+ kids from the 2017 class have already returned to public school - because the rigors and demands of the curriculum.
6 words.....
I feel like I could have said them more earlier. Should have said them more.
Luckily; I still have time to do so.
Thanks for that post.
Not a fan of all of these rah rah... Blogs and posts. Second time is saw this today. Sure there are evaluations in sports to determine fairness of teams, then there are requests... whether for coach, friends or car pool reasons.... and the once sort out "equal teams" become squewed and lop sided.
Any in house league whether tball or 8th grade rec hoops. Should have dedicated coaches so your child learns how to play a sport. You didnt sign up for all of this... Remember it is not about you... Cheer your child on... Play with them... encourage them... and above all be realistic... Nothing wrong with criticism and telling them this may not be your thing... as long as it is productive.
Funny but I was under the impression that the kids that went to catholic school couldn't cut it in a public school, whether it be discipline issues, trying to get away from the drugs that they were on previously, etc. Two different people, two different opinions.
I know 50+ kids from the 2017 class have already returned to public school - because the rigors and demands of the curriculum.
Student failure, teacher failure. Exactly!! Hire a tutor or get out!
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Best teachers? If you do not think that the kids in the top performing public schools are not getting extra help from involved parents and private tutors you have your head in the sand.
Lets have the teachers from Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor and Commack trade places with the teachers from the bottom three public districts and see what happens.
At least they are certified (passed qualifying exam, and are mandated to take additional course work)to teach their subjects, and are held accountable for their results!!
If you want to argue that some of the public schools are just as good as some of the privates that fine but please do not argue that is is the teachers.
2012 data.
Top 10 Long Island Public High Schools
1. Jericho
2. Manhasset
3. Cold Spring Harbor
4. Roslyn
5. Plainview Old Bethpage
6. Garden City
7. Great Neck South
8. Syosset
9. Wheatley School
10. JFK
Bottom 10
10. Copiague
9. Brentwood
8. Bridgehampton
7. Amityville
6. Westbury
5. Freeport
4. Central Islip
3. Wyandanch
2. Hempstead
1. Roosevelt
Do you think it is the teachers who make the difference?
Do you think it is the teachers who make the difference?
For those of you who have followed those graduating with education (elementary, secondary) degrees, you already know that the number of jobs avaiable is very limited. In particular, those who follow OLAS and similar sources know that many posted positions already have strong (insider) candidates identified.
What does this imply for Long Island near term? The very best student-teachers and potential full-time candidates are more plentiful for fewer spots than in years past. The very best candidates will be less choosy about the districts in which they find their first teaching positions locally or they will leave the Long Island area. Again, in years past with 100+ positions available across the Island, the best candidates might gravitate to the best districts. With that number greatly reduced, the selection of a specific district becomes less of an issue in order to find teaching employment.
What does this imply for the bottom end Long Island school districts? Stronger candidates who want to stay in teaching on the Island will be taking those roles. The teaching talent pool for those lower end districts SHOULD be increasing.
What does this imply for classroom performance? Despite being armed with better entry level teachers, are the students actually engaged to learn or are they going through the motions? If this is a teaching quality concern, we should see a gradual improvement in student performance over time, perhaps measured in decades.
Our point is that the local position contraction in the teaching profession caused by fewer teachers retiring and/or tenure should be forcing better candidates into the classrooms of the poorer school districts.
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Best teachers? If you do not think that the kids in the top performing public schools are not getting extra help from involved parents and private tutors you have your head in the sand.
Lets have the teachers from Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor and Commack trade places with the teachers from the bottom three public districts and see what happens.
At least they are certified (passed qualifying exam, and are mandated to take additional course work)to teach their subjects, and are held accountable for their results!!
If you want to argue that some of the public schools are just as good as some of the privates that fine but please do not argue that is is the teachers.
2012 data.
Top 10 Long Island Public High Schools
1. Jericho
2. Manhasset
3. Cold Spring Harbor
4. Roslyn
5. Plainview Old Bethpage
6. Garden City
7. Great Neck South
8. Syosset
9. Wheatley School
10. JFK
Bottom 10
10. Copiague
9. Brentwood
8. Bridgehampton
7. Amityville
6. Westbury
5. Freeport
4. Central Islip
3. Wyandanch
2. Hempstead
1. Roosevelt
Do you think it is the teachers who make the difference?
Absolutely! The better districts demand excellence in their educators, they have better training and supervision. Yes, the students have more parental support and a better work ethic, but the teaching is still top notch!
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Best teachers? If you do not think that the kids in the top performing public schools are not getting extra help from involved parents and private tutors you have your head in the sand.
Lets have the teachers from Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor and Commack trade places with the teachers from the bottom three public districts and see what happens.
At least they are certified (passed qualifying exam, and are mandated to take additional course work)to teach their subjects, and are held accountable for their results!!
If you want to argue that some of the public schools are just as good as some of the privates that fine but please do not argue that is is the teachers.
2012 data.
Top 10 Long Island Public High Schools
1. Jericho
2. Manhasset
3. Cold Spring Harbor
4. Roslyn
5. Plainview Old Bethpage
6. Garden City
7. Great Neck South
8. Syosset
9. Wheatley School
10. JFK
Bottom 10
10. Copiague
9. Brentwood
8. Bridgehampton
7. Amityville
6. Westbury
5. Freeport
4. Central Islip
3. Wyandanch
2. Hempstead
1. Roosevelt
Do you think it is the teachers who make the difference?
Absolutely! The better districts demand excellence in their educators, they have better training and supervision. Yes, the students have more parental support and a better work ethic, but the teaching is still top notch!
I disagree that the teachers are so much better in these districts. My wife teaches in an economically depressed district and the obstacles these children face outside of school play a role that we cannot imagine. The teachers in her district work extremely hard to try to help these children overcome these obstacles. All of the above mentioned districts are people with money and can afford to provide their children with tutors and other educational enhancements. Jericho is a great district but just curious how their SAT scores are now that they were caught cheating. A few years back it was revealed that the SAT prep course in that district had a teacher that had copies in advance of the test.
Chaminade is in it's own league. Some of these comments made comparing CHS to public school is silly. Just take grades for instance. Thousands of kids take the co-op test. CHS accepts a certain amount and aims for registration of 400 to 500 depending on the year. 2017 current freshman have over 500 in its class. So with this super selective process I think we can deduct that these kids are the brightest from their respective districts. I am also confident that when my son applies to college along with his gpa will be a school profile that speaks for itself. No AP's, no intel, no problem.
The student body is comprised of ALL types of districts from LI and even NJ, not just the best districts. So there is also a diversity among the student body.
Btw, these are facts and not my opinion.
Rich kids from the tri-state equal diversity?? A smart kid will excel and shine in any district. Having the opportunity to take AP classes in HS is huge; it can help gain admission to the super selective, as well as save money on tuition. Achieving honors in prestigious competitions can be a stepping stone into highly sought after placements in college research labs. Take districts such as Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor, and Commack, look at their statistics and you will see that the real facts don't lie. Public can be just as good, if not better than private. You are lucky that the private schools are only taking the brightest, that way when they have uncertified teachers teaching their classes, they will be able to learn on their own.
Best teachers? If you do not think that the kids in the top performing public schools are not getting extra help from involved parents and private tutors you have your head in the sand.
Lets have the teachers from Jericho, Cold Spring Harbor and Commack trade places with the teachers from the bottom three public districts and see what happens.
At least they are certified (passed qualifying exam, and are mandated to take additional course work)to teach their subjects, and are held accountable for their results!!
If you want to argue that some of the public schools are just as good as some of the privates that fine but please do not argue that is is the teachers.
2012 data.
Top 10 Long Island Public High Schools
1. Jericho
2. Manhasset
3. Cold Spring Harbor
4. Roslyn
5. Plainview Old Bethpage
6. Garden City
7. Great Neck South
8. Syosset
9. Wheatley School
10. JFK
Bottom 10
10. Copiague
9. Brentwood
8. Bridgehampton
7. Amityville
6. Westbury
5. Freeport
4. Central Islip
3. Wyandanch
2. Hempstead
1. Roosevelt
Do you think it is the teachers who make the difference?
Absolutely! The better districts demand excellence in their educators, they have better training and supervision. Yes, the students have more parental support and a better work ethic, but the teaching is still top notch!
Not.
So, the kids learn all on their own? Why even send them to school at all. Silly person
So, the kids learn all on their own? Why even send them to school at all. Silly person
I guess you are a teacher in a good district.
Teachers in those "lower" schools are incredible gifted and dedicated, often spending money out of their own pocket for students and their classroom, There is no doubt that districts that pay the top salaries are going to attract the top teachers and have the pick of the litter and those teachers probably prosper in those environments but a dedicated teacher that spends 30 years in those other districts have a much more rewarding professional career. They can really make a difference in a young persons life and many many teachers choose the profession to do just that. Thank you to all the teachers that teach our kids and put up with us parents in all the districts.
Teachers in those "lower" schools are incredible gifted and dedicated, often spending money out of their own pocket for students and their classroom, There is no doubt that districts that pay the top salaries are going to attract the top teachers and have the pick of the litter and those teachers probably prosper in those environments but a dedicated teacher that spends 30 years in those other districts have a much more rewarding professional career. They can really make a difference in a young persons life and many many teachers choose the profession to do just that. Thank you to all the teachers that teach our kids and put up with us parents in all the districts.
Stop, let's be real on this subject. The unspoken real truth here about the difference in these two groups of schools, is family structure. Not teachers. I would venture to say that 90% of the kids in the lower end school districts come from single parent families. Most likely 70% were born out of wedlock. While 90-95% of the kids in the top school districts come from two parent families. The reality is, kids who come from two parent families and who are born into a family where the parents are married do far better in school and in life. That's a reality. The fundamental difference in these schools is parental involvement and family values.
Don't start telling me I'm wrong, do a few google searches and read the information for yourself. Some may not want to agree, but the truth is sometimes shocking.
Can we just get back to LAX.. if you want to talk schools, start another forum.
Teachers in those "lower" schools are incredible gifted and dedicated, often spending money out of their own pocket for students and their classroom, There is no doubt that districts that pay the top salaries are going to attract the top teachers and have the pick of the litter and those teachers probably prosper in those environments but a dedicated teacher that spends 30 years in those other districts have a much more rewarding professional career. They can really make a difference in a young persons life and many many teachers choose the profession to do just that. Thank you to all the teachers that teach our kids and put up with us parents in all the districts.
Stop, let's be real on this subject. The unspoken real truth here about the difference in these two groups of schools, is family structure. Not teachers. I would venture to say that 90% of the kids in the lower end school districts come from single parent families. Most likely 70% were born out of wedlock. While 90-95% of the kids in the top school districts come from two parent families. The reality is, kids who come from two parent families and who are born into a family where the parents are married do far better in school and in life. That's a reality. The fundamental difference in these schools is parental involvement and family values.
Don't start telling me I'm wrong, do a few google searches and read the information for yourself. Some may not want to agree, but the truth is sometimes shocking.
So these percentages and stereotypes are your opinion or some facts you learned during a google search? 95 is a big number!
Stop, let's be real on this subject. The unspoken real truth here about the difference in these two groups of schools, is family structure. Not teachers. I would venture to say that 90% of the kids in the lower end school districts come from single parent families. Most likely 70% were born out of wedlock. While 90-95% of the kids in the top school districts come from two parent families. The reality is, kids who come from two parent families and who are born into a family where the parents are married do far better in school and in life. That's a reality. The fundamental difference in these schools is parental involvement and family values.
Don't start telling me I'm wrong, do a few google searches and read the information for yourself. Some may not want to agree, but the truth is sometimes shocking.
Yes, indeed stop, let's be real on this subject.
Your numbers are without backing and you are painting entire districts with a very broad brush.
How about sharing those easy to find Google search results that assert your metrics on these districts? When BOTC offers a perspective, we share the source on the data. Why not take a page from that book and share your sources?
Stop, let's be real on this subject. The unspoken real truth here about the difference in these two groups of schools, is family structure. Not teachers. I would venture to say that 90% of the kids in the lower end school districts come from single parent families. Most likely 70% were born out of wedlock. While 90-95% of the kids in the top school districts come from two parent families. The reality is, kids who come from two parent families and who are born into a family where the parents are married do far better in school and in life. That's a reality. The fundamental difference in these schools is parental involvement and family values.
Don't start telling me I'm wrong, do a few google searches and read the information for yourself. Some may not want to agree, but the truth is sometimes shocking.
Yes, indeed stop, let's be real on this subject.
Your numbers are without backing and you are painting entire districts with a very broad brush.
How about sharing those easy to find Google search results that assert your metrics on these districts? When BOTC offers a perspective, we share the source on the data. Why not take a page from that book and share your sources?
From the US CENSUS BUREAU. These are not my assertions, they are our government's facts. My post could not be more accurate.
http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram...links-poverty-with-out-of-wedlock-births
The article asserts the link between poverty and out-of-wedlock births. While an important piece of social research, this was not the discussion at hand related to the school district discussion, positive or negative.
With the recent rash of 2017 commits; will there be undue pressures for the emerging 2018's as they enter the summer tournament and showcase season to perform at a higher level? Will their be a noticeable trend toward attempts at scoring when a pass could have or should have been made?
Obviously it is now well known that college coaches from D1-3 will be taking a closer look at this group than previously thought or believed.
Thoughts?
With the recent rash of 2017 commits; will there be undue pressures for the emerging 2018's as they enter the summer tournament and showcase season to perform at a higher level? Will their be a noticeable trend toward attempts at scoring when a pass could have or should have been made?
Obviously it is now well known that college coaches from D1-3 will be taking a closer look at this group than previously thought or believed.
Thoughts?
Absolutely, My 6th grader already feels it! Not just about fun anymore at this age, the way it should be!
The article asserts the link between poverty and out-of-wedlock births. While an important piece of social research, this was not the discussion at hand related to the school district discussion, positive or negative.
Actually, it was. The discussion was about Private vs Public and how top school districts compete against the privates. It was further discussed that teachers were also a driver in student success, or lack there of. My post correctly points out that student success has little to do with public, private, or teachers. It is clearly driven by parental involvement and family structure, as proven by the Federal Government's own facts, not by my opinion.
The article asserts the link between poverty and out-of-wedlock births. While an important piece of social research, this was not the discussion at hand related to the school district discussion, positive or negative.
Actually, it was. The discussion was about Private vs Public and how top school districts compete against the privates. It was further discussed that teachers were also a driver in student success, or lack there of. My post correctly points out that student success has little to do with public, private, or teachers. It is clearly driven by parental involvement and family structure, as proven by the Federal Government's own facts, not by my opinion.
What are the govenment studys on "crazy parents who can't get off the youth sports blog" and the success of the students?
I'm sure you are equally as entertaining on the sidelines!!
The article asserts the link between poverty and out-of-wedlock births. While an important piece of social research, this was not the discussion at hand related to the school district discussion, positive or negative.
Actually, it was. The discussion was about Private vs Public and how top school districts compete against the privates. It was further discussed that teachers were also a driver in student success, or lack there of. My post correctly points out that student success has little to do with public, private, or teachers. It is clearly driven by parental involvement and family structure, as proven by the Federal Government's own facts, not by my opinion.
What are the govenment studys on "crazy parents who can't get off the youth sports blog" and the success of the students?
I'm sure you are equally as entertaining on the sidelines!!
Ugh... You do realize you're posting on the same blog! Oh right, it's different when you post, got it.
The article asserts the link between poverty and out-of-wedlock births. While an important piece of social research, this was not the discussion at hand related to the school district discussion, positive or negative.
Actually, it was. The discussion was about Private vs Public and how top school districts compete against the privates. It was further discussed that teachers were also a driver in student success, or lack there of. My post correctly points out that student success has little to do with public, private, or teachers. It is clearly driven by parental involvement and family structure, as proven by the Federal Government's own facts, not by my opinion.
What are the govenment studys on "crazy parents who can't get off the youth sports blog" and the success of the students?
I'm sure you are equally as entertaining on the sidelines!!
Ugh... You do realize you're posting on the same blog! Oh right, it's different when you post, got it.
Correct.
Showcase events for the 2018 players. Which to do and which ones are the best on east coast.
The Brine Nationals are upcoming. They held the LI regional - but if you missed it you can attend the Connecticut or Jersey regional upcoming in 2 weeks.
The Brine Nationals are upcoming. They held the LI regional - but if you missed it you can attend the Connecticut or Jersey regional upcoming in 2 weeks.
We all know where the Brine event has gone when local coaches are involved in the selection process. What other events are out there.
The Brine Nationals are upcoming. They held the LI regional - but if you missed it you can attend the Connecticut or Jersey regional upcoming in 2 weeks.
We all know where the Brine event has gone when local coaches are involved in the selection process. What other events are out there.
Brine and JR are both good events for rising 9th graders.
Using other areas to get into Brine can work, but then your son's team will have to go up against the best of the island and MD. Making the finals with Brine gets a lot of attention. The college coaches of the teams that didnt make the finals were watching rather intently last summer.
JR is a great collection of players and top notch competition. Probably a toss up at this point if college coaches will attend it. There was a "boycott"? by many in "protest" of the early recruiting last summer, but it didn't stop a few from observing and given the significant amount of commitments it would seem that they will prob be taking a peak this summer. After that, Philly showcase is attended heavily by D1-3 coaches.
The Brine Nationals are upcoming. They held the LI regional - but if you missed it you can attend the Connecticut or Jersey regional upcoming in 2 weeks.
We all know where the Brine event has gone when local coaches are involved in the selection process. What other events are out there.
Brine and JR are both good events for rising 9th graders.
Using other areas to get into Brine can work, but then your son's team will have to go up against the best of the island and MD. Making the finals with Brine gets a lot of attention. The college coaches of the teams that didnt make the finals were watching rather intently last summer.
JR is a great collection of players and top notch competition. Probably a toss up at this point if college coaches will attend it. There was a "boycott"? by many in "protest" of the early recruiting last summer, but it didn't stop a few from observing and given the significant amount of commitments it would seem that they will prob be taking a peak this summer. After that, Philly showcase is attended heavily by D1-3 coaches.
Sorry. What's JR
The Brine Nationals are upcoming. They held the LI regional - but if you missed it you can attend the Connecticut or Jersey regional upcoming in 2 weeks.
We all know where the Brine event has gone when local coaches are involved in the selection process. What other events are out there.
Brine and JR are both good events for rising 9th graders.
Using other areas to get into Brine can work, but then your son's team will have to go up against the best of the island and MD. Making the finals with Brine gets a lot of attention. The college coaches of the teams that didnt make the finals were watching rather intently last summer.
JR is a great collection of players and top notch competition. Probably a toss up at this point if college coaches will attend it. There was a "boycott"? by many in "protest" of the early recruiting last summer, but it didn't stop a few from observing and given the significant amount of commitments it would seem that they will prob be taking a peak this summer. After that, Philly showcase is attended heavily by D1-3 coaches.
Sorry. What's JR
JR is Jake Reed Nike Blue chip camp
The 3D program feeds it with qualifiers for the freshman season. About half of those are selected for the rising sophomore summer blue chip camp and another 1/2 or so must re qualify the winter In between.
Some will say its a huge money grab (but what isn't in LAX these days?)
Good competition in any case and exposure of how the higher showcases are apt to be run.
Isn't it too late for 2018s to registire for Jake Reed? Didn't you have to attend one of the 3d camps in January to be considered? No direct invites for 2018 age group. If I am wrong I would love to know.
Another camp I haven't heaard discussed here is Top Prospect. Any feedback on this one?
We went to Brine last summer (as a rising 8th). It was valuable experience on what to expeect at an all-star event. Also attended 3d a few weeks ago. Even if you don't expect to verbal as a freshman, attending some of these showcase style events at this age will help your boy prepare and know what to expect later on. Unfortunately, there is a lot of money spent already.
The Brine Nationals are upcoming. They held the LI regional - but if you missed it you can attend the Connecticut or Jersey regional upcoming in 2 weeks.
We all know where the Brine event has gone when local coaches are involved in the selection process. What other events are out there.
There are local coaches involved in all event tryouts, if your child is talented, it doesn't matter who is evaluating. The showcases have various coaches from all over and even some local LI but at that point, it is playing and showing your talent.
The Brine Nationals are upcoming. They held the LI regional - but if you missed it you can attend the Connecticut or Jersey regional upcoming in 2 weeks.
We all know where the Brine event has gone when local coaches are involved in the selection process. What other events are out there.
There are local coaches involved in all event tryouts, if your child is talented, it doesn't matter who is evaluating. The showcases have various coaches from all over and even some local LI but at that point, it is playing and showing your talent.
Talented and/or knows right person!
[quote=Anonymous]Isn't it too late for 2018s to registire for Jake Reed? Didn't you have to attend one of the 3d camps in January to be considered? No direct invites for 2018 age group. If I am wrong I would love to know.
Another camp I haven't heaard discussed here is Top Prospect. Any feedback on this one?
We went to Brine last summer (as a rising 8th). It was valuable experience on what to expeect at an all-star event. Also attended 3d a few weeks ago. Even if you don't expect to verbal as a freshman, attending some of these showcase style events at this age will help your boy prepare and know what to expect later on. Unfortunately, there is a lot of money spent already.
Yes it too late. You need to register for the 3d Blue Chip camp in the summer to get the invite to one of the regional camps. The camps were held in January for the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast. From the 5 camps, they pick 120 kids to go to the Jake Reed Nike Camp held in Maryland in the summer. Great experience…
no coaches at top prospect...some good instruction...this is really an extension of the Crab brand...
no coaches at top prospect...some good instruction...this is really an extension of the Crab brand...
4 day sleep away for $600+
The Brine Nationals are upcoming. They held the LI regional - but if you missed it you can attend the Connecticut or Jersey regional upcoming in 2 weeks.
We all know where the Brine event has gone when local coaches are involved in the selection process. What other events are out there.
There are local coaches involved in all event tryouts, if your child is talented, it doesn't matter who is evaluating. The showcases have various coaches from all over and even some local LI but at that point, it is playing and showing your talent.
We all know there is abundance of talent on LI. There are also some of the best teams in the country like Extreme, Terps, and others. When talking about the best players there are a number that come to mind. Some of the best and very good players have been lucky to be involved in the best programs on LI from an early age. No one team has all the best players because there are some who don't play travel and because there are so many travel teams the players get spread out. So on some of these elite teams there very good players that fit in to the system and they do well because they are surrounded be great players. These players because of their association with these elite teams reap the benefits and also the accolades. Are they good yes are they worthy of being selected to every showcase, no. So when a coach who makes a living on his travel team is involved in the selection process of course they select their player. There is a lot of money at stake here. It looks great at events when their helmets are all over the field. It only brands their product even more. Do good players get overlooked, all the time. If these events like Brine brought in unbiased evaluators there would be less favoritism and true showcase teams. Just my 2 cents and observations.
There are try outs for both Extreme and Terps every year. There is turn over on each team every year...
I suspect there are always players that make a team that really aren't the best just like I suspect there are players that don't make it that really should.
That said, I think the guys running both those top programs want the best players on their teams so they can promote their brands. It just makes sense that the better the players they have, the more tournys they will win and the more lax players they can send off to college and promote on their websites...they are in a business and want to be successful to breed future enrollments...
So, appreciate your two cents, but from a business perspective your logic is flawed.
There are try outs for both Extreme and Terps every year. There is turn over on each team every year...
I suspect there are always players that make a team that really aren't the best just like I suspect there are players that don't make it that really should.
That said, I think the guys running both those top programs want the best players on their teams so they can promote their brands. It just makes sense that the better the players they have, the more tournys they will win and the more lax players they can send off to college and promote on their websites...they are in a business and want to be successful to breed future enrollments...
So, appreciate your two cents, but from a business perspective your logic is flawed.
I totally agree with the business perspective. BUT, if you think there are “tryouts” for both of these teams, you are dreaming. Both teams are pick before tryouts. There maybe some movement between the two programs top teams and the “second” team, but they both are handpicked prior to anyone paying their $100 for tryouts…
There are try outs for both Extreme and Terps every year. There is turn over on each team every year...
I suspect there are always players that make a team that really aren't the best just like I suspect there are players that don't make it that really should.
That said, I think the guys running both those top programs want the best players on their teams so they can promote their brands. It just makes sense that the better the players they have, the more tournys they will win and the more lax players they can send off to college and promote on their websites...they are in a business and want to be successful to breed future enrollments...
So, appreciate your two cents, but from a business perspective your logic is flawed.
How is it flawed we are talking showcases here. Ok tell me if scenario works for you. Player A from club X is better than player B from club Y. B's coach is an evaluator at a showcase and he picks his player over the better player. Its all about putting players in their program. More kids at showcase might convince a player from another team to come over to their program. How does being an evaluator where you can influence those that are chosen to play at Brine, Jake Reed, etc. not benifit you and your program. Makes big time sense to try and get more of your kids into the event. There are players that are better than many going to Brine who werent chosen and might not get the looks they deserve due to homerism. Now Coach and Directors can say we had 20 kids selected for Brine or whatever event/showcase on their website. Its plain and simple. If you dont see how this benifits your program and can make you more money I dont know how better to explain it to you.
There are players from other teams that coaches want but cant get because they are loyal to their club. Just ask the players who get the phone calls and promises on a regular basis from directors of other clubs. It happens all day long. Its very rare that the best players move around too often its the secondary players that move. There are many parents who are just happy to say they are affiliated with a certain team and have their kid ride the pine and only see time when the games are over and already won.
There are try outs for both Extreme and Terps every year. There is turn over on each team every year...
I suspect there are always players that make a team that really aren't the best just like I suspect there are players that don't make it that really should.
That said, I think the guys running both those top programs want the best players on their teams so they can promote their brands. It just makes sense that the better the players they have, the more tournys they will win and the more lax players they can send off to college and promote on their websites...they are in a business and want to be successful to breed future enrollments...
So, appreciate your two cents, but from a business perspective your logic is flawed.
I totally agree with the business perspective. BUT, if you think there are “tryouts” for both of these teams, you are dreaming. Both teams are pick before tryouts. There maybe some movement between the two programs top teams and the “second” team, but they both are handpicked prior to anyone paying their $100 for tryouts…
You my friend are spot on. When players dont even need to tryout and are selected is proof of that. Many phone calls and pledges are made well before tryouts for these elite teams.
The Brine Nationals are upcoming. They held the LI regional - but if you missed it you can attend the Connecticut or Jersey regional upcoming in 2 weeks.
Couple of Questions about Brine Regional. I registered for the CT regional tryout b/c we missed the LI tryout.
1. Will my son be at a disatvantage b/c he is not "local"
2. It seems the next step in the selection process is to make it to a "pride Game" event however the regional pride games do not seem to draw from the CT tryout. Anyone have any info on this. Thank you.
The Brine Nationals are upcoming. They held the LI regional - but if you missed it you can attend the Connecticut or Jersey regional upcoming in 2 weeks.
Couple of Questions about Brine Regional. I registered for the CT regional tryout b/c we missed the LI tryout.
1. Will my son be at a disatvantage b/c he is not "local"
2. It seems the next step in the selection process is to make it to a "pride Game" event however the regional pride games do not seem to draw from the CT tryout. Anyone have any info on this. Thank you.
1. That is cFr the CT guys.
2. The Pride game is for the LI region to help evaluate the talent and pick final LI north and south teams if they do that this year.
The Brine Nationals are upcoming. They held the LI regional - but if you missed it you can attend the Connecticut or Jersey regional upcoming in 2 weeks.
Couple of Questions about Brine Regional. I registered for the CT regional tryout b/c we missed the LI tryout.
1. Will my son be at a disatvantage b/c he is not "local"
2. It seems the next step in the selection process is to make it to a "pride Game" event however the regional pride games do not seem to draw from the CT tryout. Anyone have any info on this. Thank you.
1. That is cFr the CT guys.
2. The Pride game is for the LI region to help evaluate the talent and pick final LI north and south teams if they do that this year.
From experience they will try and pick the best players - plenty of LI kids on teams from other regions. The Pride games is for LI only as far as I know,
several regions have pride games - it is based on how large the regional tryout is. The CT tryout is a likely garnering an application pool to be able to whittle down to 23 at the 1st go.
Also, last year LI had two teams so I imagine the goal is to get to 46 total this year
My son attended Top Prospect last summer as a rising 8th grader. It was a good camp but not great. It is really an extension of the Baltimore Crabs program. There was some decent competition from Baltimore and Philadelphia predominantly. My son also attended the 3d Blue Chip camp. He felt that the competition and training was stronger there than at Top Prospect. They ran a fast paced system and did a lot of training. Lots of new concepts were thrown at the 8th graders. Things were run like a college practice and all of the kids went full speed all of the time. They were serious. Not all of the kids at Top Prospect were serious- some dogged it. The competition, while not uniform, was generally better at Blue Chip.
Was this the 3d Blue Chip camp that kids has to try out for in January? Where and when was it?
Thanks
Trying to clarify individual showcase opportunities for the upcoming summer season. The below excludes local only events. Please add to the list if you are in the know of other events. All events include the 2018 graduating class.
I am aware of four invite/recommendation/tryout type camps/events available to 2018s this coming summer of 2014. These are camps that are selective, not for everybody. You need to apply and get accepted or get invited. You do not just enroll.
Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip - the only way to go is to have applied/been invited to the 3d Bluechip camps which occurred in Florida back in January. This is done. Invites for JR are being sent this week (by March 1st). – 2018 camp is scheduled for June 26-28.
Brine National Lacrosse Classic – this is a regional team event. You need to make the team for the region you tryout at. LI region tryout was back in December. For LI it is a two stage tryout with an upcoming Pride of LI game to finalize the roster. You can attend any region’s tryout and play for any region’s team. Therefore it is not too late to try and attend. The national event is June 30-July 3
Top Prospect Camp – individual camp catering to 2018s and 2019s. As previously mentioned run by Crabs. It appears they are still accepting applications. There are two session June 16-19 and July 7-10.
Top 205 Camp – 2018s are the youngest her as like JR this I rising freshman through rising seniors. They use a recommendation/application process similar to Top Prospect. This camp is June 27-30.
Trying to clarify individual showcase opportunities for the upcoming summer season. The below excludes local only events. Please add to the list if you are in the know of other events. All events include the 2018 graduating class.
I am aware of four invite/recommendation/tryout type camps/events available to 2018s this coming summer of 2014. These are camps that are selective, not for everybody. You need to apply and get accepted or get invited. You do not just enroll.
Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip - the only way to go is to have applied/been invited to the 3d Bluechip camps which occurred in Florida back in January. This is done. Invites for JR are being sent this week (by March 1st). – 2018 camp is scheduled for June 26-28.
Brine National Lacrosse Classic – this is a regional team event. You need to make the team for the region you tryout at. LI region tryout was back in December. For LI it is a two stage tryout with an upcoming Pride of LI game to finalize the roster. You can attend any region’s tryout and play for any region’s team. Therefore it is not too late to try and attend. The national event is June 30-July 3
Top Prospect Camp – individual camp catering to 2018s and 2019s. As previously mentioned run by Crabs. It appears they are still accepting applications. There are two session June 16-19 and July 7-10.
Top 205 Camp – 2018s are the youngest her as like JR this I rising freshman through rising seniors. They use a recommendation/application process similar to Top Prospect. This camp is June 27-30.
What about National 175.
Trying to clarify individual showcase opportunities for the upcoming summer season. The below excludes local only events. Please add to the list if you are in the know of other events. All events include the 2018 graduating class.
I am aware of four invite/recommendation/tryout type camps/events available to 2018s this coming summer of 2014. These are camps that are selective, not for everybody. You need to apply and get accepted or get invited. You do not just enroll.
Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip - the only way to go is to have applied/been invited to the 3d Bluechip camps which occurred in Florida back in January. This is done. Invites for JR are being sent this week (by March 1st). – 2018 camp is scheduled for June 26-28.
Brine National Lacrosse Classic – this is a regional team event. You need to make the team for the region you tryout at. LI region tryout was back in December. For LI it is a two stage tryout with an upcoming Pride of LI game to finalize the roster. You can attend any region’s tryout and play for any region’s team. Therefore it is not too late to try and attend. The national event is June 30-July 3
Top Prospect Camp – individual camp catering to 2018s and 2019s. As previously mentioned run by Crabs. It appears they are still accepting applications. There are two session June 16-19 and July 7-10.
Top 205 Camp – 2018s are the youngest her as like JR this I rising freshman through rising seniors. They use a recommendation/application process similar to Top Prospect. This camp is June 27-30.
What about National 175.
I beleive that 175 is for Freshman (2017). You get to try next year.
Trying to clarify individual showcase opportunities for the upcoming summer season. The below excludes local only events. Please add to the list if you are in the know of other events. All events include the 2018 graduating class.
I am aware of four invite/recommendation/tryout type camps/events available to 2018s this coming summer of 2014. These are camps that are selective, not for everybody. You need to apply and get accepted or get invited. You do not just enroll.
Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip - the only way to go is to have applied/been invited to the 3d Bluechip camps which occurred in Florida back in January. This is done. Invites for JR are being sent this week (by March 1st). – 2018 camp is scheduled for June 26-28.
Brine National Lacrosse Classic – this is a regional team event. You need to make the team for the region you tryout at. LI region tryout was back in December. For LI it is a two stage tryout with an upcoming Pride of LI game to finalize the roster. You can attend any region’s tryout and play for any region’s team. Therefore it is not too late to try and attend. The national event is June 30-July 3
Top Prospect Camp – individual camp catering to 2018s and 2019s. As previously mentioned run by Crabs. It appears they are still accepting applications. There are two session June 16-19 and July 7-10.
Top 205 Camp – 2018s are the youngest her as like JR this I rising freshman through rising seniors. They use a recommendation/application process similar to Top Prospect. This camp is June 27-30.
What about National 175.
No 2018 for the summer showcase.
Thought that was 2017 and up?
Nat 175 is a 1st come 1st serve event. Open enrollment. No recommendation or tryout or invite needed.
The Nat Bob Individual does not include the 2018 class
Nat 175 is a 1st come 1st serve event. Open enrollment. No recommendation or tryout or invite needed.
The Nat Bob Individual does not include the 2018 class
The Nat 175 Spring Event for 2018,2017,2016, and 2015 says recommendation by coach when you apply. Need coaches recommendation I believe.
Anyone hear from Jake Reed yet?
They said notifications would be sent by March 1st. I would of expected to see some posts already.
The Nat 175 Summer Showcase - July 28 - 30 at RPI is not open for 2018 only for 2017 and older. The June 17 one day showcase in Connecticut is open to 2018.
Some may argue HS isn't the end result, I disagree. HS starts Monday. What districts have promoted 8th graders to JV through selective classification.
congratulations to those who will be moved up.
WM never moves up 8th graders....
Has anybody heard anything from Blue Chip???
Has anybody heard anything from Blue Chip???
Not that I'm aware of, my son is around many of the boys who went and no one has mentioned anything as of late.
3D blue chip Announcements go out March 3rd-7th, they will notify you either way, make it or not. Blue chip said if you have not received an email by March 7th to contact them. Also to check spam. So no one has been told otherwise, be patient
We were told would be out by March 1st--from their email to families--
Invitations and Non-Invitations for Jake Reed's Nike Blue Chip Camp
We will be notifying all players of our decision, whether or not you have been invited to continue onto Jake Reed's Nike Blue Chip Summer Camp, by March 1st. We will be sending notification via email to the primary contact email address you have listed on your 3d Lacrosse account. If you have not heard from us by March 2nd, please feel free to contact us (gpiniciaro@3dlacrosse.com). Please note that we will not be releasing selection information prior to official notifications, and we will also not be providing individual player feedback as to our decisions.
Will they post the names of the kids who were picked any where publicly?
Our notice was the same. March 1st and please contact them on the 2nd if you haven't heard.
If they intend to notify week of March 3rd they should send a clarification.
On March 2nd they better be prepared to receive 1800 annoying emails from parents.
Will you send yours to Reed, Munro or both?
Our notice was the same. March 1st and please contact them on the 2nd if you haven't heard.
If they intend to notify week of March 3rd they should send a clarification.
On March 2nd they better be prepared to receive 1800 annoying emails from parents.
Will you send yours to Reed, Munro or both?
Neither, not really a big deal! I know my son will make it, I'm that confident! But in case he doesn't, oh well, there are other avenues.
Our notice was the same. March 1st and please contact them on the 2nd if you haven't heard.
If they intend to notify week of March 3rd they should send a clarification.
On March 2nd they better be prepared to receive 1800 annoying emails from parents.
Will you send yours to Reed, Munro or both?
Received our notice of not being invited. Just now. Congratulations to all that will be chosen. Good luck to all the Long Island boys.
If you did 3d and were rejected by JR do you recommend trying for Top 205 or Nat 175?
Are these good options or just another flavor of the same money grab?
sorry to hear that, tell your son to keep his head up
Our notice was the same. March 1st and please contact them on the 2nd if you haven't heard.
If they intend to notify week of March 3rd they should send a clarification.
On March 2nd they better be prepared to receive 1800 annoying emails from parents.
Will you send yours to Reed, Munro or both?
Received our notice of not being invited. Just now. Congratulations to all that will be chosen. Good luck to all the Long Island boys.
No one else has heard anything?
Our notice was the same. March 1st and please contact them on the 2nd if you haven't heard.
If they intend to notify week of March 3rd they should send a clarification.
On March 2nd they better be prepared to receive 1800 annoying emails from parents.
Will you send yours to Reed, Munro or both?
Neither, not really a big deal! I know my son will make it, I'm that confident! But in case he doesn't, oh well, there are other avenues.
I guess you'll be the first 2018 commit as well. A little humility is also nice.
My son was not invited. Has anyone who made it heard? Congrats to those of you who made it!
My son was invited. Happy for him.
just got the JR invite and he was invited.
Our notice was the same. March 1st and please contact them on the 2nd if you haven't heard.
If they intend to notify week of March 3rd they should send a clarification.
On March 2nd they better be prepared to receive 1800 annoying emails from parents.
Will you send yours to Reed, Munro or both?
Neither, not really a big deal! I know my son will make it, I'm that confident! But in case he doesn't, oh well, there are other avenues.
I guess you'll be the first 2018 commit as well. A little humility is also nice.
He received the invite and it was a "YES", nothing to do with humility, let your child decide he wants to play and perform well, not you, and yes, he may not be the first 2018 to commit but probably top 5.. guaranteed!
The only thing I push my son on is his education, lacrosse is secondary. The funny thing is, the better he performs in lacrosse, such as 3D, the better his grades get. Stop with humility crap,a parent who pushes his child to perform where he (the parent) was not able to is the best lesson in humility, just stop and ask your child what they want to do.
Mine got a yes too, and we are happy for him. We also appreciate that others who worked just as hard as my boy did not make it this time. Tell your boys to keep plugging away, this is just one try out with lots of opportunities to come.
Don't pay any attention to the top 5 guy, he sounds like he has some issues...Just let him fade away--or grow up...
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Anyone know how many 91 Extreme, Terps, etc. Made the JR camp.
Anybody who missed the LI tryout going to either Brine in CT tomorrow or NJ on Sunday? Curious to see how the comparisons will be between the tryouts. I seem to recall a lot of criticism for the LI one.
Has Jake Reed posted the roster any where?
Has Jake Reed posted the roster any where?
Not that I can find...
Has Jake Reed posted the roster any where?
Not that I can find...
Checks are not due until the 20th , that would make the list "final" - I wonder if there is a wait list if people don't respond or dont go.
Has Jake Reed posted the roster any where?
Not that I can find...
Checks are not due until the 20th , that would make the list "final" - I wonder if there is a wait list if people don't respond or dont go.
Yes, that is what the letter states.
Has Jake Reed posted the roster any where?
Not that I can find...
Checks are not due until the 20th , that would make the list "final" - I wonder if there is a wait list if people don't respond or dont go.
Yes, that is what the letter states.
Send the money in.......lemmings!!
Has Jake Reed posted the roster any where?
Stop wasting your time looking for rosters. I also have an older son who has been to Jake Reed twice. He never posts any rosters.
Has Jake Reed posted the roster any where?
Stop wasting your time looking for rosters. I also have an older son who has been to Jake Reed twice. He never posts any rosters.
How would you rate the experience now that you have been through it twice. And not in terms of quality lax - that's a given. But more in terms of exposure.
Can anyone give info on Brine Nat'l Classic?? A lot of kids signed up, are they paying to play/tryout?? What's the end result? Thanks.
Has Jake Reed posted the roster any where?
Stop wasting your time looking for rosters. I also have an older son who has been to Jake Reed twice. He never posts any rosters.
How would you rate the experience now that you have been through it twice. And not in terms of quality lax - that's a given. But more in terms of exposure.
Thought the experience was great. The quality of player at the Mid Atlantic tryout was excellent. Exposure was not why you went you 3D. It was to get to Jake Reed where exposure is very good. Only thing that I did not like was having coaches evaluate and their children were trying out. They also should not be evaluating their own players. Should be an unbiased evaluation.
Can anyone give info on Brine Nat'l Classic?? A lot of kids signed up, are they paying to play/tryout?? What's the end result? Thanks.
LI has one more round to get to the final number and they have a north and south team.. CT was yesterday and they are done - team will be announced thia week. Today is NJ and same thing. From there each regional team competes in Maryland in early July.
Good start to OBLL today - nice to be outdoors. 2018 Jesters Black played the Express Pirahnas.
Good start to OBLL today - nice to be outdoors. 2018 Jesters Black played the Express Pirahnas.
what was the outcome ?
Great day today for a friendly tournament. Dukes sent two teams and 365 with terps...
thanks for all the teams making the trip, lot of fun and good solid competition.
Good start to OBLL today - nice to be outdoors. 2018 Jesters Black played the Express Pirahnas.
what was the outcome ?
Jesters 9-3.
Good start to OBLL today - nice to be outdoors. 2018 Jesters Black played the Express Pirahnas.
what was the outcome ?
11 3 Jesters
Good start to OBLL today - nice to be outdoors. 2018 Jesters Black played the Express Pirahnas.
what was the outcome ?
11 3 Jesters
Is Jesters Black the A or B team. Piranhas are Express 2018 C Team.
Good start to OBLL today - nice to be outdoors. 2018 Jesters Black played the Express Pirahnas.
what was the outcome ?
11 3 Jesters
Is Jesters Black the A or B team. Piranhas are Express 2018 C Team.
Black is the A team. And I wouldn't say the Piranhas are the C just the 3rd team. They can play with any B team.
Good start to OBLL today - nice to be outdoors. 2018 Jesters Black played the Express Pirahnas.
what was the outcome ?
11 3 Jesters
Is Jesters Black the A or B team. Piranhas are Express 2018 C Team.
Black is the A team. And I wouldn't say the Piranhas are the C just the 3rd team. They can play with any B team.
Does it really matter? AA, A, B, C....
It's winter/spring tuneup, all teams in OBLL will have problems from week to week sometimes fielding enough players to play. Let's just have some fun and let the kids play.
Can anyone give info on Brine Nat'l Classic?? A lot of kids signed up, are they paying to play/tryout?? What's the end result? Thanks.
LI has one more round to get to the final number and they have a north and south team.. CT was yesterday and they are done - team will be announced thia week. Today is NJ and same thing. From there each regional team competes in Maryland in early July.
If you just go to the Brine Nationals website they post all the information, the tryouts are run differently for the various regions and the LI tryouts changed this year. If you are still interested, you can go to any region, there is nothing limiting a player to go somewhere else especially if they did not find out about Brine in time. in fact, last year, there were several kids for CT and Westchester that come to LI due to conflicts in their region. There were a few players from LI that tried out in CT and upstate too.
How did the teams do? Scores?
Terps had a pretty good day yesterday...They were lucky enough to have the Dukes and 365 travel down for a friendly early season mini tourny. Able to win all three of their games, all games were close and all teams played really well considering the long winter.
Thanks to Dukes and 365 for making the trip.
Can anyone give info on Brine Nat'l Classic?? A lot of kids signed up, are they paying to play/tryout?? What's the end result? Thanks.
LI has one more round to get to the final number and they have a north and south team.. CT was yesterday and they are done - team will be announced thia week. Today is NJ and same thing. From there each regional team competes in Maryland in early July.
If you just go to the Brine Nationals website they post all the information, the tryouts are run differently for the various regions and the LI tryouts changed this year. If you are still interested, you can go to any region, there is nothing limiting a player to go somewhere else especially if they did not find out about Brine in time. in fact, last year, there were several kids for CT and Westchester that come to LI due to conflicts in their region. There were a few players from LI that tried out in CT and upstate too.
Thanks!
Since the Shamrock thread (both) are spinning sideways.... How about the quality lax from this group yesterday. And don't start with teams are catching up or slipping, etc. Just some good stuff to watch from this group of rising freshman compete. I am sure more than a handful will be teammates over the next 4 years.
Since the Shamrock thread (both) are spinning sideways.... How about the quality lax from this group yesterday. And don't start with teams are catching up or slipping, etc. Just some good stuff to watch from this group of rising freshman compete. I am sure more than a handful will be teammates over the next 4 years.
Couldn't agree more, overall level of competition was strong. Many games very close for a good portion of each game.
can't talk about shamrock, LI Terps were in MD--
played Mad Lax, VLC, Landon school and Club Blue,
4 great games, went three and one...
can't talk about shamrock, LI Terps were in MD--
played Mad Lax, VLC, Landon school and Club Blue,
4 great games, went three and one...
Some good teams. Which one did you lose?
Madlax beat LIE. 4-0 at haltime and finished 8-3 or 8-4. Competitive game.
LIE beat Club Blue, Club Blue beat MadLax and MadLax beat LIE.
Did anyone watch the Extreme play fl$ or Jesters? Those games were much closer than I would have thought?
Did Orange play Extreme?
Was that the best LIE 2018 team that came to DC or was it a composite of multiple LIE 2018 teams?
LIE beat Club Blue, Club Blue beat MadLax and MadLax beat LIE.
Was that the Madlax National team?
Was that the best LIE 2018 team that came to DC or was it a composite of multiple LIE 2018 teams?
That was their best team of the three. One team was not playing and the other team played in the Shamrock Shootout.
The jesters game was actually closer than the score. The jesters missed three scoring opportunities 10ft from cage One hit the pipe two others were shot just wide
Have to say the Jesters definitely added some players. They looked good.
The jesters game was actually closer than the score. The jesters missed three scoring opportunities 10ft from cage One hit the pipe two others were shot just wide
Goalie kept them in game too. 91 had at least 15 more shots on goal.
Both goalies played very well.
what was the score in the 91 extreme jesters game?
LIE Best team, but looked like quite a few boys were not there.
what was the score in the 91 extreme jesters game?
4-1
LIE beat Club Blue, Club Blue beat MadLax and MadLax beat LIE.
Was that the Madlax National team?
No. It was the dc team. The national team is comprised of about two thirds dc area kids and a third from California or Florida
Was that the best LIE 2018 team that came to DC or was it a composite of multiple LIE 2018 teams?
That was their best team of the three. One team was not playing and the other team played in the Shamrock Shootout.
That was Express' best team? Wow - they were not impressive at all. I hope that wasn't the best team from all of Long Island.
Was that the best LIE 2018 team that came to DC or was it a composite of multiple LIE 2018 teams?
That was their best team of the three. One team was not playing and the other team played in the Shamrock Shootout.
That was Express' best team? Wow - they were not impressive at all. I hope that wasn't the best team from all of Long Island.
Not an Express parent. Understand, that was one of the best teams with 13 and 14 yo 2018's. When you have 15 yo on your team it makes a big difference. And you do! Because they couldn't play in the [lacrosse]'s tournament. Because [lacrosse]'s required a birth certificate to weed out the cheaters... If your team is that good? Why not challenge yourselves against a team your own age? Come play the turtles? You won't. No age advantage there, right? Daddy would rather pound his chest when his son beats up on the younger kids... Because your kid can't compete on AGE! I love to ask this question to your kind? Do you and the old lady get all full of pride when your kid, who couldn't compete on age, blows by a kid 12 to 18 month younger? Also, do you yell at your kid in the car when he gets smoked by the little kids?
Age aside, LIE went 3-1. Maybe we should ask you, are those the best Maryland teams? Ha ha you better hope not.
Was that the best LIE 2018 team that came to DC or was it a composite of multiple LIE 2018 teams?
That was their best team of the three. One team was not playing and the other team played in the Shamrock Shootout.
That was Express' best team? Wow - they were not impressive at all. I hope that wasn't the best team from all of Long Island.
Not an Express parent. Understand, that was one of the best teams with 13 and 14 yo 2018's. When you have 15 yo on your team it makes a big difference. And you do! Because they couldn't play in the [lacrosse]'s tournament. Because [lacrosse]'s required a birth certificate to weed out the cheaters... If your team is that good? Why not challenge yourselves against a team your own age? Come play the turtles? You won't. No age advantage there, right? Daddy would rather pound his chest when his son beats up on the younger kids... Because your kid can't compete on AGE! I love to ask this question to your kind? Do you and the old lady get all full of pride when your kid, who couldn't compete on age, blows by a kid 12 to 18 month younger? Also, do you yell at your kid in the car when he gets smoked by the little kids?
2018 means that they are graduating high school in 2018 not that they are 13 or 14 yo. The terps have a few kids whose age says that they could be in 2017 as do many other 2018 teams, It is not cheating. A few kids on the terps are playing JV this year against 15 and 16 year olds. It is what it is
Was that the best LIE 2018 team that came to DC or was it a composite of multiple LIE 2018 teams?
That was their best team of the three. One team was not playing and the other team played in the Shamrock Shootout.
That was Express' best team? Wow - they were not impressive at all. I hope that wasn't the best team from all of Long Island.
Nobody on my son's team is a reclassified kid. But if we face a team with older kids (who are still legal by the tournament rules), we are going to play hard and not whine about it like LI parents seemingly do at every opportunity.
That was the weakest "top" Express team I've ever seen.
Not an Express parent. Understand, that was one of the best teams with 13 and 14 yo 2018's. When you have 15 yo on your team it makes a big difference. And you do! Because they couldn't play in the [lacrosse]'s tournament. Because [lacrosse]'s required a birth certificate to weed out the cheaters... If your team is that good? Why not challenge yourselves against a team your own age? Come play the turtles? You won't. No age advantage there, right? Daddy would rather pound his chest when his son beats up on the younger kids... Because your kid can't compete on AGE! I love to ask this question to your kind? Do you and the old lady get all full of pride when your kid, who couldn't compete on age, blows by a kid 12 to 18 month younger? Also, do you yell at your kid in the car when he gets smoked by the little kids?
Age aside, LIE went 3-1. Maybe we should ask you, are those the best Maryland teams? Ha ha you better hope not.
Two of those teams are from Virginia. Madlax won easily. There are many other MD teams (Crabs, Hawks, etc.) who would pummel that Express team any day.
Age aside, LIE went 3-1. Maybe we should ask you, are those the best Maryland teams? Ha ha you better hope not.
Two of those teams are from Virginia. Madlax won easily. There are many other MD teams (Crabs, Hawks, etc.) who would pummel that Express team any day.
You are too funny. You speak as if you are playing. I guess its frustration from your youth. You say smoke them. History has not shown that. It was an early spring tournament. Mike C and John L will have that team firing on all cylinders when it counts. I am sure of that. Seen it many times. Please show me the proof of how many times those teams the Crabs and Hawks have smoked an Express Terps or Orange. It has not happened. If they did beat them the games were very close.
Was that the best LIE 2018 team that came to DC or was it a composite of multiple LIE 2018 teams?
That was their best team of the three. One team was not playing and the other team played in the Shamrock Shootout.
That was Express' best team? Wow - they were not impressive at all. I hope that wasn't the best team from all of Long Island.
Not an Express parent. Understand, that was one of the best teams with 13 and 14 yo 2018's. When you have 15 yo on your team it makes a big difference. And you do! Because they couldn't play in the [lacrosse]'s tournament. Because [lacrosse]'s required a birth certificate to weed out the cheaters... If your team is that good? Why not challenge yourselves against a team your own age? Come play the turtles? You won't. No age advantage there, right? Daddy would rather pound his chest when his son beats up on the younger kids... Because your kid can't compete on AGE! I love to ask this question to your kind? Do you and the old lady get all full of pride when your kid, who couldn't compete on age, blows by a kid 12 to 18 month younger? Also, do you yell at your kid in the car when he gets smoked by the little kids?
2018 means that they are graduating high school in 2018 not that they are 13 or 14 yo. The terps have a few kids whose age says that they could be in 2017 as do many other 2018 teams, It is not cheating. A few kids on the terps are playing JV this year against 15 and 16 year olds. It is what it is
Terps may have one or two kids who could be in 2017 by a couple months. Not a year or two. As far as JV is concerned, that is choice to play up, made by the kid and his family, not by the opposing teams.
Age aside, LIE went 3-1. Maybe we should ask you, are those the best Maryland teams? Ha ha you better hope not.
Two of those teams are from Virginia. Madlax won easily. There are many other MD teams (Crabs, Hawks, etc.) who would pummel that Express team any day.
You are too funny. You speak as if you are playing. I guess its frustration from your youth. You say smoke them. History has not shown that. It was an early spring tournament. Mike C and John L will have that team firing on all cylinders when it counts. I am sure of that. Seen it many times. Please show me the proof of how many times those teams the Crabs and Hawks have smoked an Express Terps or Orange. It has not happened. If they did beat them the games were very close.
Not that your post makes any sense, but I'll address it. Even if it's true that clubs such as the Crabs and/or Hawks have never beaten an Express team handily (and it's not), what bearing would that have on this situation?
The Madlax team had little trouble beating the Express team, and they are not the best team in the Mid Atlantic.
Age aside, LIE went 3-1. Maybe we should ask you, are those the best Maryland teams? Ha ha you better hope not.
Two of those teams are from Virginia. Madlax won easily. There are many other MD teams (Crabs, Hawks, etc.) who would pummel that Express team any day.
You are too funny. You speak as if you are playing. I guess its frustration from your youth. You say smoke them. History has not shown that. It was an early spring tournament. Mike C and John L will have that team firing on all cylinders when it counts. I am sure of that. Seen it many times. Please show me the proof of how many times those teams the Crabs and Hawks have smoked an Express Terps or Orange. It has not happened. If they did beat them the games were very close.
Not that your post makes any sense, but I'll address it. Even if it's true that clubs such as the Crabs and/or Hawks have never beaten an Express team handily (and it's not), what bearing would that have on this situation?
The Madlax team had little trouble beating the Express team, and they are not the best team in the Mid Atlantic.
You have no idea about the game of lacrosse. Teams match up differently. There is so much parody in the game that any team can beat any other team on any given day. Please provide facts about your claims of Crabs or Hawks easily beating Express 2018 Terps. When you make such bold statements please provide proof.
Mad lax also lost to club blue ( express team beat club blue right before it played mad lax). Yes, we beat blue and then lost to Mad. Mad beat us and then lost to blue...
But you are right, your boys are better than ours. They are better at Lax, they are smarter, they are faster and their girl friends are prettier...Does that make you happy?
Now go home and get your shine box...
Of course they are smarter. Repeating 8th grade as a 15 year old will do that for you.
Mad lax also lost to club blue ( express team beat club blue right before it played mad lax). Yes, we beat blue and then lost to Mad. Mad beat us and then lost to blue...
But you are right, your boys are better than ours. They are better at Lax, they are smarter, they are faster and their girl friends are prettier...Does that make you happy?
Now go home and get your shine box...
Just FYI there are no 15 year olds on the madlax team. No hold backs. My son turned 14 last October and he is one if the oldest on the team. I think there are a few august birthdays too. I have heard the club blue team had hold backs but I cannot say that I know it to be true.
Everyone was rusty. It us march. Summer tourneys are for bragging rights.
Mad lax also lost to club blue ( express team beat club blue right before it played mad lax). Yes, we beat blue and then lost to Mad. Mad beat us and then lost to blue...
But you are right, your boys are better than ours. They are better at Lax, they are smarter, they are faster and their girl friends are prettier...Does that make you happy?
Now go home and get your shine box...
...and your kid a haircut
Just FYI there are no 15 year olds on the madlax team. No hold backs. My son turned 14 last October and he is one if the oldest on the team. I think there are a few august birthdays too. I have heard the club blue team had hold backs but I cannot say that I know it to be true.
Everyone was rusty. It us march. Summer tourneys are for bragging rights.
FYI. 14 in October would make you in HS on Long Island.
Just FYI there are no 15 year olds on the madlax team. No hold backs. My son turned 14 last October and he is one if the oldest on the team. I think there are a few august birthdays too. I have heard the club blue team had hold backs but I cannot say that I know it to be true.
Everyone was rusty. It us march. Summer tourneys are for bragging rights.
You sound like a reasonable person. Its just the way the other parent is pounding his chest and claiming all out superiority by MD teams. Like you said it was a spring tournament. You also point out your child turned 14 in October of 2013 and is a 2018 Graduate. My son turned 13 in Nov of 2013 so your child is a full year older. This is due to different cut off dates for schools in NY and MD etc. During this particular time of development in a boys life a year makes a big difference. We cannot deny that. So as many LI parents have said in the past when we play MD and PA teams there is an age difference in kids graduating in 2018. It can even be the same for some LI teams who have 1 or 2 hold backs. At 3D Blue Chip my son had 3 to 4 players on his team from MD and PA who were almost 2 years older than him in his 2018 group. Until USA lacrosse goes to age based cards like soccer this will always be a contested topic. Are your kids playing within the rules of US Lacrosse yes. Is there potential for a player playing in the 2018 Graduating Class to be 2 years older, yes. It is what it is.
Ok. Here the cutoff is September so he is on the older end of 8 th grade. But does that mean he is older than all Long Island u 15 kids? How do you guys age your youth teams?
Madlax had a roster of 23 kids for the game against LIE. 19 of the 23 qualified as U13 under US Lacrosse rules last summer. So, at most, there were 4 older U15s on the field on Sunday. The LI parents really need to quit the whining.
Roughly 70% of that Madlax U15 team won the [lacrosse]'s U13 National (birth certificate) tournament in December. Maybe they are just good and not cheaters.
LIE is a good team. It was a competitive game. No reason to play the age card every time you lose to a VA or MD team.
Just FYI there are no 15 year olds on the madlax team. No hold backs. My son turned 14 last October and he is one if the oldest on the team. I think there are a few august birthdays too. I have heard the club blue team had hold backs but I cannot say that I know it to be true.
Everyone was rusty. It us march. Summer tourneys are for bragging rights.
If they aren't 15 yet, they are turning 15 shortly. Look, there were many of your kids that were too old for [lacrosse]'s. It was posted on your website. That would make them very close to 15 if not there yet. I guess the LI kids day is over, we're just not good at lacrosse anymore.
Genius, 13 in November is U13. You choose to play up, and then complain about older kids! Only on LI
Just FYI there are no 15 year olds on the madlax team. No hold backs. My son turned 14 last October and he is one if the oldest on the team. I think there are a few august birthdays too. I have heard the club blue team had hold backs but I cannot say that I know it to be true.
Everyone was rusty. It us march. Summer tourneys are for bragging rights.
You sound like a reasonable person. Its just the way the other parent is pounding his chest and claiming all out superiority by MD teams. Like you said it was a spring tournament. You also point out your child turned 14 in October of 2013 and is a 2018 Graduate. My son turned 13 in Nov of 2013 so your child is a full year older. This is due to different cut off dates for schools in NY and MD etc. During this particular time of development in a boys life a year makes a big difference. We cannot deny that. So as many LI parents have said in the past when we play MD and PA teams there is an age difference in kids graduating in 2018. It can even be the same for some LI teams who have 1 or 2 hold backs. At 3D Blue Chip my son had 3 to 4 players on his team from MD and PA who were almost 2 years older than him in his 2018 group. Until USA lacrosse goes to age based cards like soccer this will always be a contested topic. Are your kids playing within the rules of US Lacrosse yes. Is there potential for a player playing in the 2018 Graduating Class to be 2 years older, yes. It is what it is.
Genius, 13 in November is U13. You choose to play up, and then complain about older kids! Only on LI
Just FYI there are no 15 year olds on the madlax team. No hold backs. My son turned 14 last October and he is one if the oldest on the team. I think there are a few august birthdays too. I have heard the club blue team had hold backs but I cannot say that I know it to be true.
Everyone was rusty. It us march. Summer tourneys are for bragging rights.
You sound like a reasonable person. Its just the way the other parent is pounding his chest and claiming all out superiority by MD teams. Like you said it was a spring tournament. You also point out your child turned 14 in October of 2013 and is a 2018 Graduate. My son turned 13 in Nov of 2013 so your child is a full year older. This is due to different cut off dates for schools in NY and MD etc. During this particular time of development in a boys life a year makes a big difference. We cannot deny that. So as many LI parents have said in the past when we play MD and PA teams there is an age difference in kids graduating in 2018. It can even be the same for some LI teams who have 1 or 2 hold backs. At 3D Blue Chip my son had 3 to 4 players on his team from MD and PA who were almost 2 years older than him in his 2018 group. Until USA lacrosse goes to age based cards like soccer this will always be a contested topic. Are your kids playing within the rules of US Lacrosse yes. Is there potential for a player playing in the 2018 Graduating Class to be 2 years older, yes. It is what it is.
Genius most tournaments are graduation year so if your 14-15 you would be in high school already. Not 2018 Graduation and in middle school. Also please learn how to quote and use the forum.
I'm so disheartened with all the banter. It was a nice weekend with great competition played at beautiful schools. It enabled the boys to get out and get some games in before the school season begins. Good luck to the boys on our team that are already playing JV and Varsity that couldn't be there. LIE parents take the high road and don't get suckered in to negative comments. These comments are more than likely not from MD/VA parents.
Just FYI there are no 15 year olds on the madlax team. No hold backs. My son turned 14 last October and he is one if the oldest on the team. I think there are a few august birthdays too. I have heard the club blue team had hold backs but I cannot say that I know it to be true.
Everyone was rusty. It us march. Summer tourneys are for bragging rights.
If they aren't 15 yet, they are turning 15 shortly. Look, there were many of your kids that were too old for [lacrosse]'s. It was posted on your website. That would make them very close to 15 if not there yet. I guess the LI kids day is over, we're just not good at lacrosse anymore.
I am the one whose son turned 14 in October. He will be 15 in seven months. Not sure if that qualifies as shortly. I haven't seen the roster with brirth dates in a while, but from what I recall the average kid on this team was born in early 2000. Several like my son are now about 14 1/2, several are just turning 14 this winter, and several are still 13 and have birthdates this spring and summer.
To the earlier poster, I agree that at this age a year is huge. It can mean five inches and thirty lbs or more. My son shot up in seven grade but his growth has slowed recently. Some of the younger kids on his team have not hit their spurt (including the smaller fogo for those of you who saw the game). Bottom line, if the average terp is turning 14 this summer, then yes, you can tell them they lost to a team that probably is six mons older on average. If the average terp is turning 14 about now, then age was not a factor. I will say this, to my eye the difference in the game was madlax midfield controlled the ball, especially in the first half. Our middies were bigger, faster and stronger, on average. Perhaps it was age.
Final note. We know Long Island tesms are usually tough and skilled. So we get excited when we beat one. So take it as a compliment that we care about beating a LI team. Agree there is too much chest thumping on here. We should all chill, as these are not our victories anyway.
I have never understood tHe chest thumping that goes on here about whose team is better. Are you really going to remember how your son's team did in a 8th grade tournament? Better yet, is your son? Shouldn't your main concern be the quality of the coaching, how your son is developing and that his team is playing against good quality competition in competitive games? Unless you own the team any way.
I love all the incessant whining by LI parents. Are you going to cry in HS when your son is playing kids 2-3 years older?
Man up and play. LOL @ Long Island dads.
There wasn't any chest thumping about beating the Express. I believe the comment was merely that the Express team wasn't very impressive.
I love all the incessant whining by LI parents. Are you going to cry in HS when your son is playing kids 2-3 years older?
Man up and play. LOL @ Long Island dads.
Lol @ LI dads?
What are you? A 16 year old girl?? Omg
My question is: Why do our LI teams keep going down to play these teams anyway? It's a lose/lose proposition. The teams down there have been playing down for years, nothing new.
Why don't we just stay here in our own back yard. If your a 2018 team and want to play older teams, book games with a 2017 team. Same deal, and you don't have to drive 4 hours to play the older kids.
Look if these Mid-Atlantic teams believe they are so much better, I believe they should just go to the U-15 championship and test their mettle. No age disputes, no whining, in that tournament.
Why won't they do it?
My question is: Why do our LI teams keep going down to play these teams anyway? It's a lose/lose proposition. The teams down there have been playing down for years, nothing new.
Why don't we just stay here in our own back yard. If your a 2018 team and want to play older teams, book games with a 2017 team. Same deal, and you don't have to drive 4 hours to play the older kids.
Look if these Mid-Atlantic teams believe they are so much better, I believe they should just go to the U-15 championship and test their mettle. No age disputes, no whining, in that tournament.
Why won't they do it?
Did it and won. Where were you?
I am willing to bet it is not even a parent associated with an MD club, just some schmuck that has nothing better to do than see if he can start a fight anonymously.
We have been traveling to play MD teams for years and I have met dozens of MD and PA parents and kids and they have always been 1st class competitors. Likewise most of the families on LI are also 1st class. However, in all cases we have some nut jobs and apparently one or two of those nut jobs have infiltrated an otherwise enjoyably sight where I come to see what is going on with this age group.
Like anything else in life, take what you want and leave the rest. Simply don't respond to the nut jobs and they will get bored and leave.
As for the re-class year, anyone can do it, I choose not to follow that trend. While it may be helpful on a lax field and in some cases academically, it is not the right decision for my family even though that might put my son at a advantage for a coveted d-1 lax spot.
I love the sport and would love for him to play at that level, but would much prefer that he keeps his straight A gpa and goes on to a successful, meaningful and productive life and career.
Lax is fun, but until they start giving more than 12.5 scholarships and until the pro teams start paying real $, it will remain just that-fun.
Direct from USLacrosse.. "U13:
All players must be 12 years old or younger on the August 31st preceding competition. It is recommended that when multiple teams exist within a program, the program should consider physical size, skill, and maturity when organizing teams."
Genius, 13 in November is U13. You choose to play up, and then complain about older kids! Only on LI
Just FYI there are no 15 year olds on the madlax team. No hold backs. My son turned 14 last October and he is one if the oldest on the team. I think there are a few august birthdays too. I have heard the club blue team had hold backs but I cannot say that I know it to be true.
Everyone was rusty. It us march. Summer tourneys are for bragging rights.
You sound like a reasonable person. Its just the way the other parent is pounding his chest and claiming all out superiority by MD teams. Like you said it was a spring tournament. You also point out your child turned 14 in October of 2013 and is a 2018 Graduate. My son turned 13 in Nov of 2013 so your child is a full year older. This is due to different cut off dates for schools in NY and MD etc. During this particular time of development in a boys life a year makes a big difference. We cannot deny that. So as many LI parents have said in the past when we play MD and PA teams there is an age difference in kids graduating in 2018. It can even be the same for some LI teams who have 1 or 2 hold backs. At 3D Blue Chip my son had 3 to 4 players on his team from MD and PA who were almost 2 years older than him in his 2018 group. Until USA lacrosse goes to age based cards like soccer this will always be a contested topic. Are your kids playing within the rules of US Lacrosse yes. Is there potential for a player playing in the 2018 Graduating Class to be 2 years older, yes. It is what it is.
Likewise most of the families on LI are also 1st class.
I must have imagined all the guys with sleeve tats yelling for "Johnny" or "Vinny" to knock somebody out.
My question is: Why do our LI teams keep going down to play these teams anyway? It's a lose/lose proposition. The teams down there have been playing down for years, nothing new.
Why don't we just stay here in our own back yard. If your a 2018 team and want to play older teams, book games with a 2017 team. Same deal, and you don't have to drive 4 hours to play the older kids.
Look if these Mid-Atlantic teams believe they are so much better, I believe they should just go to the U-15 championship and test their mettle. No age disputes, no whining, in that tournament.
Why won't they do it?
Did it and won. Where were you?
When?
My question is: Why do our LI teams keep going down to play these teams anyway? It's a lose/lose proposition. The teams down there have been playing down for years, nothing new.
Why don't we just stay here in our own back yard. If your a 2018 team and want to play older teams, book games with a 2017 team. Same deal, and you don't have to drive 4 hours to play the older kids.
Look if these Mid-Atlantic teams believe they are so much better, I believe they should just go to the U-15 championship and test their mettle. No age disputes, no whining, in that tournament.
Why won't they do it?
Did it and won. Where were you?
When?
WOW! That put an end to this thread. Good!
Express Piranhas? Are they a 2018 team?
Express Piranhas? Are they a 2018 team?
yep!!
The Express 2016 is a pretty good team. The Turtles 2017 is an excellent team.
This Express 2018 team is just ok.
Was probably referring to the Dicks TOC this winter.
The Express 2016 is a pretty good team. The Turtles 2017 is an excellent team.
This Express 2018 team is just ok.
Who are you? Ah, I get it, you want to see who takes the remark and argues it?
Better luck next time...Have a nice day.
Was probably referring to the Dicks TOC this winter.
Express 2018 wasn't there.
Saw the turtles two years ago and they were great. Are they all 9th graders now? I assume half have verballed
You cannot ask a simple question on this board without some sort of sarcastic or rude response. If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all.
Express Piranhas? Are they a 2018 team?
Yes they are the 3rd team in 2018 for Express. 1. Terps 2. Wolverines 3. Piranahs
If the Terps are the best 2018 team on LI, you guys are in trouble.
If the Terps are the best 2018 team on LI, you guys are in trouble.
I didn't think they let the inmates out for the weekend? Maybe they are giving you internet access now?
If the Terps are the best 2018 team on LI, you guys are in trouble.
What don't you get. They are the best team for Express in the 2018 age group. No one said they were the best team on LI.
If the Terps are the best 2018 team on LI, you guys are in trouble.
What don't you get. They are the best team for Express in the 2018 age group. No one said they were the best team on LI.
Don't play into this guys hands, he started the last thread with the exact same statement. IGNORE HIM!
If the Terps are the best 2018 team on LI, you guys are in trouble.
What don't you get. They are the best team for Express in the 2018 age group. No one said they were the best team on LI.
Don't play into this guys hands, he started the last thread with the exact same statement. IGNORE HIM!
You are right....this is clearly a kid or an adult with a very small brain.
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
Ward Melville doesn't allow
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
2018 terps scheduled to play 91 and crabs Saturday. Love to play the best around and not have to drive...
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
Lemme guess. Extreme kids ?
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
Lemme guess. Extreme kids ?
2 out of the 3
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
Lemme guess. Extreme kids ?
2 out of the 3
No conflict of interest there...lol
I could name about a dozen players who played for their dad coach at a H.S. program. Usually the coaches kids are very good. I'm sure this is the case here.
2018 terps scheduled to play 91 and crabs Saturday. Love to play the best around and not have to drive...
So true!
I could name about a dozen players who played for their dad coach at a H.S. program. Usually the coaches kids are very good. I'm sure this is the case here.
Danowski and Rotanz come to mind... No question of the kids talent in those two cases...
2018 terps scheduled to play 91 and crabs Saturday. Love to play the best around and not have to drive...
So true!
Where and when are they playing?
I could name about a dozen players who played for their dad coach at a H.S. program. Usually the coaches kids are very good. I'm sure this is the case here.
Danowski and Rotanz come to mind... No question of the kids talent in those two cases...
Same situation with Connetquot. Coach's son is a stud, who was completely toying with the middle schoolers as a 7th grader!
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
Back to Lacrosse. The 2018 group is filled with many talented players. I've heard some have been asked to play at the HS level.
Are there any playing on Varsity?
Any playing/starting JV?
Please, no BS and no names. Best to all the players at this age group.
I know Connetquot has 3 8th graders on JV..who start..
Lemme guess. Extreme kids ?
2 out of the 3
If they are that good Im sure they will go to one of the Catholic schools next year.
I could name about a dozen players who played for their dad coach at a H.S. program. Usually the coaches kids are very good. I'm sure this is the case here.
Danowski and Rotanz come to mind... No question of the kids talent in those two cases...
Matt Danowski did not play for his father in HS, John Danowski was coaching Hofstra at the time. When given the opportunity to play for his dad, Matt chose Duke over Hofstra. I am not sure of his grades but maybe he couldn't get into Hofstra (for all you Express parents the last part was a joke)
Anyone have insight into the Nat Invite Best of Best individual showcase for 2018's on July 4th? Was invited but would like more info than the site provides before registering.
Any insight is appreciated. Please don't tell me it is a money grab - I think they are all money grabs - it is the one thing I know already.
Anyone have insight into the Nat Invite Best of Best individual showcase for 2018's on July 4th? Was invited but would like more info than the site provides before registering.
Any insight is appreciated. Please don't tell me it is a money grab - I think they are all money grabs - it is the one thing I know already.
Nat 175 has historically been a very good venue, organizers have great connections with many College coaches. The 2018 events they added are specifically for those kids who are trying to play at the D1 level. They say they are capping the grade at 84 players. Which equates to about 4 teams. It seems that 175 added this because the coaches are looking for showcase type venues to observe 2018 players this summer. Whether we agree with it or not, it seems like interest in early recruiting is accelerating with no signs of slowing down.
Does anyone have any insight into the 3d Box/Field Elite Mid-Atlantic camp?
Anyone have insight into the Nat Invite Best of Best individual showcase for 2018's on July 4th? Was invited but would like more info than the site provides before registering.
Any insight is appreciated. Please don't tell me it is a money grab - I think they are all money grabs - it is the one thing I know already.
Nat 175 has historically been a very good venue, organizers have great connections with many College coaches. The 2018 events they added are specifically for those kids who are trying to play at the D1 level. They say they are capping the grade at 84 players. Which equates to about 4 teams. It seems that 175 added this because the coaches are looking for showcase type venues to observe 2018 players this summer. Whether we agree with it or not, it seems like interest in early recruiting is accelerating with no signs of slowing down.
Worst case its just a really good (overpriced) clinic. Keep in mind the Brine is Jun 30, July 1st, 2nd & 3rd. And Best of the Best is the 4th. And the weekend before is huge tourney weekend.
We are going from Brine (June 30-July 3) to the Best of Best (July 5-6) - what is so bad about one extra day of lacrosse in the middle on July 4
We received a mail about this too. It is very expensive. If you have attended a 3d event in the past I am sure you will see much repeat from what you have already seen.
My overall impression about 3d is that it serves as a great example of some of the best and worst of lacrosse culture.
The leaders if you can get exposure are mature and dedicated
The program is well conceived and organized
The drills are original
The coaches are young lax bros
Who you know is more important what you know
Who you play for more important than how you play
Size more important than skill
Depends on what you are looking for - buyer beware!
Does anyone have any insight into the 3d Box/Field Elite Mid-Atlantic camp?
Heading into the summer before freshman year, already running into conflicts between Football and Lacrosse.
From June 2014 - November 2014 how will you prioritize? Feedback needed please. Would love to hear from an anonymous Lax coach.
My thoughts:
1 - Football Games
2 - Football Practice
3 - Lacrosse Individual Showcases
4 - Lacrosse Club Tournaments
5 - Football Conditioning Workouts
6 - Lacrosse Club Practice
7 - Lacrosse HS Conditioning Workouts
If Your son wants to Play d 1 Lacrosse Its simple, NO FOOTBALL Go to gym work on your game, do as much lax as possible, get recruited and go back to football in 10th-11th Grade.
It works
If Your son wants to Play d 1 Lacrosse Its simple, NO FOOTBALL Go to gym work on your game, do as much lax as possible, get recruited and go back to football in 10th-11th Grade.
It works
that is really dumb advice and pretty much not advocated by most college coaches. They want multi-sport athletes. Read the articles.
We are going from Brine (June 30-July 3) to the Best of Best (July 5-6) - what is so bad about one extra day of lacrosse in the middle on July 4
"IF" you are from LI how do you know you are already attending Brine? Only one more day of lacrosse?... Apparently you have never played in July in Maryland in 90degree heat, 70% humidity on turf with a helmet on....but by all means keep pushing your son
And if your son wants to play D1 Lacrosse make sure he loves the sport and play whatever sport he can and wants to at the time, if he NEEDS to concentrate on lacrosse solely right now he's probably not good enough to play D1 and he will remember games (fball,soccer,hoops) with his friends rather than some showcase camp. Each player will find his/her correct spot, not everyone plays at Virginia and there are thousands of happy college lacrosse players at other schools. Instill the passion, the rest will come.
If Your son wants to Play d 1 Lacrosse Its simple, NO FOOTBALL Go to gym work on your game, do as much lax as possible, get recruited and go back to football in 10th-11th Grade.
It works
We went to the 3d Blue Chip recruiting seminar in January. Their recomendation was that the kids should continue to play multiple sports. The coaches like to see that dedication, plus it helps burn out.
Sorry, not from LI so yes we do know we are going to Brine and then coming to LI for Nat Invite. This site is great thanks for the advice.
Also, we are from further south than MD and did Brine last year too - Brine is on grass and the real heat/humidity is August deep south. June/July in MD/NY is sweater weather for us. Joking but not very worried just need to stay hydrated. My boy does love the sport. I've asked him whether he wants to push it that hard and he says yes.
Also, I agree that multi sport is the way to go. For us from August until the end of Football, lacrosse is a Sunday only deal.
We are going from Brine (June 30-July 3) to the Best of Best (July 5-6) - what is so bad about one extra day of lacrosse in the middle on July 4
"IF" you are from LI how do you know you are already attending Brine? Only one more day of lacrosse?... Apparently you have never played in July in Maryland in 90degree heat, 70% humidity on turf with a helmet on....but by all means keep pushing your son
And if your son wants to play D1 Lacrosse make sure he loves the sport and play whatever sport he can and wants to at the time, if he NEEDS to concentrate on lacrosse solely right now he's probably not good enough to play D1 and he will remember games (fball,soccer,hoops) with his friends rather than some showcase camp. Each player will find his/her correct spot, not everyone plays at Virginia and there are thousands of happy college lacrosse players at other schools. Instill the passion, the rest will come.
If Your son wants to Play d 1 Lacrosse Its simple, NO FOOTBALL Go to gym work on your game, do as much lax as possible, get recruited and go back to football in 10th-11th Grade.
It works
that is really dumb advice and pretty much not advocated by most college coaches. They want multi-sport athletes. Read the articles.
That's a load of crap. Football never made anyone a better lax player. Kids that excel at both football and lax are just gifted athletes. One has nothing to do with the other. How many top basketball recruits are playing lacrosse over the summer to get better at basketball? NONE. Silliest notion ever. Show me the randomized study that supports this thinking? Doesn't exist. Please don't start with overuse injury stuff in little kids. We're talking about HS players here. Football is great if you don't mind the injuries and want to play football in college.
If Your son wants to Play d 1 Lacrosse Its simple, NO FOOTBALL Go to gym work on your game, do as much lax as possible, get recruited and go back to football in 10th-11th Grade.
It works
We went to the 3d Blue Chip recruiting seminar in January. Their recomendation was that the kids should continue to play multiple sports. The coaches like to see that dedication, plus it helps burn out.
Yeah cause they have all the answers... Did you also listen to the part where they told you to hold your kid back for lacrosse? Give up another year of your life to get recruited, sound advice.
We are going from Brine (June 30-July 3) to the Best of Best (July 5-6) - what is so bad about one extra day of lacrosse in the middle on July 4
"IF" you are from LI how do you know you are already attending Brine? Only one more day of lacrosse?... Apparently you have never played in July in Maryland in 90degree heat, 70% humidity on turf with a helmet on....but by all means keep pushing your son
And if your son wants to play D1 Lacrosse make sure he loves the sport and play whatever sport he can and wants to at the time, if he NEEDS to concentrate on lacrosse solely right now he's probably not good enough to play D1 and he will remember games (fball,soccer,hoops) with his friends rather than some showcase camp. Each player will find his/her correct spot, not everyone plays at Virginia and there are thousands of happy college lacrosse players at other schools. Instill the passion, the rest will come.
And there is a handful of kids from LI that missed the LI Brine regional and went through another region that announced their team already.
My Kid took this last Fall off from Football. He went to a couple Camps/Showcases, 3 Tournaments with club team, and SWR with High school team. Was also in Gym every day. He is verbally committed to Top 20 lacrosse/Academic school. He will now play 2 Years of varsity football. He missed one year of Jv Football, and it worked out. Think its all up to Kids/Family.
If Your son wants to Play d 1 Lacrosse Its simple, NO FOOTBALL Go to gym work on your game, do as much lax as possible, get recruited and go back to football in 10th-11th Grade.
It works
that is really dumb advice and pretty much not advocated by most college coaches. They want multi-sport athletes. Read the articles.
That's a load of crap. Football never made anyone a better lax player. Kids that excel at both football and lax are just gifted athletes. One has nothing to do with the other. How many top basketball recruits are playing lacrosse over the summer to get better at basketball? NONE. Silliest notion ever. Show me the randomized study that supports this thinking? Doesn't exist. Please don't start with overuse injury stuff in little kids. We're talking about HS players here. Football is great if you don't mind the injuries and want to play football in college.
You truly just want to hear yourself talk. Do a little google seach about multi-sport athletes and lacrosse (and maybe start with this link:
http://www.uslacrosse.org/multimedi...nd-off-on-multi-sport-participation.aspx) and you will find out prretty quickly and in a fact-based way you are just spewing nonsense.
Thanks for sharing. Was college football an option before his sabbatical? It sounds like lax is #1 for your son and it worked out great - congrats!!
What about a boy who has both doors open right now? Isn't it premature to shut the door on one of them now before he has even attended a single HS class?
My Kid took this last Fall off from Football. He went to a couple Camps/Showcases, 3 Tournaments with club team, and SWR with High school team. Was also in Gym every day. He is verbally committed to Top 20 lacrosse/Academic school. He will now play 2 Years of varsity football. He missed one year of Jv Football, and it worked out. Think its all up to Kids/Family.
If Your son wants to Play d 1 Lacrosse Its simple, NO FOOTBALL Go to gym work on your game, do as much lax as possible, get recruited and go back to football in 10th-11th Grade.
It works
that is really dumb advice and pretty much not advocated by most college coaches. They want multi-sport athletes. Read the articles.
That's a load of crap. Football never made anyone a better lax player. Kids that excel at both football and lax are just gifted athletes. One has nothing to do with the other. How many top basketball recruits are playing lacrosse over the summer to get better at basketball? NONE. Silliest notion ever. Show me the randomized study that supports this thinking? Doesn't exist. Please don't start with overuse injury stuff in little kids. We're talking about HS players here. Football is great if you don't mind the injuries and want to play football in college.
I was at a lecture given by John Danowski who spoke about the importance for kids to be in any competitive situation, taking the free throws at the end of a tied basketball game or being in a 3 minute drill in football or any other type of pressure situations makes for better athletes and competitors, so yes, throwing a football is not going to make you a better lacrosse player but playing quarter back will make you a better competitor and athlete
We are going from Brine (June 30-July 3) to the Best of Best (July 5-6) - what is so bad about one extra day of lacrosse in the middle on July 4
"IF" you are from LI how do you know you are already attending Brine? Only one more day of lacrosse?... Apparently you have never played in July in Maryland in 90degree heat, 70% humidity on turf with a helmet on....but by all means keep pushing your son
And if your son wants to play D1 Lacrosse make sure he loves the sport and play whatever sport he can and wants to at the time, if he NEEDS to concentrate on lacrosse solely right now he's probably not good enough to play D1 and he will remember games (fball,soccer,hoops) with his friends rather than some showcase camp. Each player will find his/her correct spot, not everyone plays at Virginia and there are thousands of happy college lacrosse players at other schools. Instill the passion, the rest will come.
And there is a handful of kids from LI that missed the LI Brine regional and went through another region that announced their team already.
FWIW - I work with a Dad of a HS senior who said the Brine is the single best event he has been to through the years. And he has been through them all (the good and the bad.)
If Your son wants to Play d 1 Lacrosse Its simple, NO FOOTBALL Go to gym work on your game, do as much lax as possible, get recruited and go back to football in 10th-11th Grade.
It works
that is really dumb advice and pretty much not advocated by most college coaches. They want multi-sport athletes. Read the articles.
That's a load of crap. Football never made anyone a better lax player. Kids that excel at both football and lax are just gifted athletes. One has nothing to do with the other. How many top basketball recruits are playing lacrosse over the summer to get better at basketball? NONE. Silliest notion ever. Show me the randomized study that supports this thinking? Doesn't exist. Please don't start with overuse injury stuff in little kids. We're talking about HS players here. Football is great if you don't mind the injuries and want to play football in college.
You truly just want to hear yourself talk. Do a little google seach about multi-sport athletes and lacrosse (and maybe start with this link:
http://www.uslacrosse.org/multimedi...nd-off-on-multi-sport-participation.aspx) and you will find out prretty quickly and in a fact-based way you are just spewing nonsense.
Your an idiot. There is no fact. Show me study that proves this. You can't because it doesn't exist. It's a school of thought. Not based in fact. These same coaches recruit Lacrosse only kids for their teams. Look, I could care less. Make your kid play football, good luck.
If Your son wants to Play d 1 Lacrosse Its simple, NO FOOTBALL Go to gym work on your game, do as much lax as possible, get recruited and go back to football in 10th-11th Grade.
It works
that is really dumb advice and pretty much not advocated by most college coaches. They want multi-sport athletes. Read the articles.
That's a load of crap. Football never made anyone a better lax player. Kids that excel at both football and lax are just gifted athletes. One has nothing to do with the other. How many top basketball recruits are playing lacrosse over the summer to get better at basketball? NONE. Silliest notion ever. Show me the randomized study that supports this thinking? Doesn't exist. Please don't start with overuse injury stuff in little kids. We're talking about HS players here. Football is great if you don't mind the injuries and want to play football in college.
I was at a lecture given by John Danowski who spoke about the importance for kids to be in any competitive situation, taking the free throws at the end of a tied basketball game or being in a 3 minute drill in football or any other type of pressure situations makes for better athletes and competitors, so yes, throwing a football is not going to make you a better lacrosse player but playing quarter back will make you a better competitor and athlete
That's great anecdotal information from a great coach. If your a gifted enough athlete to be able to play QB and excel at basketball and Lacrosse, that's great. However, it's the fact that the kid is a gifted athlete, not that he plays three sports. One sport is not making him better at the other. That kind of athlete would excel if he only wanted to play one sport.
Are Terps still playing Extreme and Crabs today? Where?
If Your son wants to Play d 1 Lacrosse Its simple, NO FOOTBALL Go to gym work on your game, do as much lax as possible, get recruited and go back to football in 10th-11th Grade.
It works
that is really dumb advice and pretty much not advocated by most college coaches. They want multi-sport athletes. Read the articles.
That's a load of crap. Football never made anyone a better lax player. Kids that excel at both football and lax are just gifted athletes. One has nothing to do with the other. How many top basketball recruits are playing lacrosse over the summer to get better at basketball? NONE. Silliest notion ever. Show me the randomized study that supports this thinking? Doesn't exist. Please don't start with overuse injury stuff in little kids. We're talking about HS players here. Football is great if you don't mind the injuries and want to play football in college.
I was at a lecture given by John Danowski who spoke about the importance for kids to be in any competitive situation, taking the free throws at the end of a tied basketball game or being in a 3 minute drill in football or any other type of pressure situations makes for better athletes and competitors, so yes, throwing a football is not going to make you a better lacrosse player but playing quarter back will make you a better competitor and athlete
That's great anecdotal information from a great coach. If your a gifted enough athlete to be able to play QB and excel at basketball and Lacrosse, that's great. However, it's the fact that the kid is a gifted athlete, not that he plays three sports. One sport is not making him better at the other. That kind of athlete would excel if he only wanted to play one sport.
I dont agree, you think practicing lacrosse once a week over the fall and winter will develop you more as a lacrosse player than 6 days a week strength, speed and practicing football and Actually competing.
Not going to happen. Regardless of the off season sport,working on being an "athlete" over 1 or 2 lacrosse practices a week will have a bigger effect on the kids as they grow as athletes.
If Your son wants to Play d 1 Lacrosse Its simple, NO FOOTBALL Go to gym work on your game, do as much lax as possible, get recruited and go back to football in 10th-11th Grade.
It works
that is really dumb advice and pretty much not advocated by most college coaches. They want multi-sport athletes. Read the articles.
That's a load of crap. Football never made anyone a better lax player. Kids that excel at both football and lax are just gifted athletes. One has nothing to do with the other. How many top basketball recruits are playing lacrosse over the summer to get better at basketball? NONE. Silliest notion ever. Show me the randomized study that supports this thinking? Doesn't exist. Please don't start with overuse injury stuff in little kids. We're talking about HS players here. Football is great if you don't mind the injuries and want to play football in college.
You truly just want to hear yourself talk. Do a little google seach about multi-sport athletes and lacrosse (and maybe start with this link:
http://www.uslacrosse.org/multimedi...nd-off-on-multi-sport-participation.aspx) and you will find out prretty quickly and in a fact-based way you are just spewing nonsense.
Your an idiot. There is no fact. Show me study that proves this. You can't because it doesn't exist. It's a school of thought. Not based in fact. These same coaches recruit Lacrosse only kids for their teams. Look, I could care less. Make your kid play football, good luck.
You sound like extremely reasonable people. You know, the kind of people that others just enjoy being around. Really
Lost to crabs 11-3
beat jesters 6-3
I told you. That Terps 2018 team is not that great. No way can they hang with the top 2018 teams in the country like the Crabs.
I told you. That Terps 2018 team is not that great. No way can they hang with the top 2018 teams in the country like the Crabs.
Crabs are U-15 not 2018.
At this time of year HS players are not allowed allowed to play club - the crabs u15 is also all 2018s - no HS players
I told you. That Terps 2018 team is not that great. No way can they hang with the top 2018 teams in the country like the Crabs.
Crabs are U-15 not 2018.
I told you. That Terps 2018 team is not that great. No way can they hang with the top 2018 teams in the country like the Crabs.
Yes, thank you for your wisdom. Parents of boys on this team, like me, were thinking it was a strong, competitive team. But leave it to you, the anonymous board oracle to show the rest of us the way....
Maybe not the best, but we like the team, all the boys and their families...
your boy didnt make the team?
I told you. That Terps 2018 team is not that great. No way can they hang with the top 2018 teams in the country like the Crabs.
MD teams play down... Always have.
So every kid on the Crabs U15 team is in 8th grade and is either 13 or just turned 14?
You want a study proving that playing another sport helps you become a better lacrosse player. Can you please find a study proving that being a multi-sport athlete does not make you a better lacrosse player? Since you are so certain that playing another sport will not help you with lacrosse, you do the work and find the study that supports your rationale.
You want a study proving that playing another sport helps you become a better lacrosse player. Can you please find a study proving that being a multi-sport athlete does not make you a better lacrosse player? Since you are so certain that playing another sport will not help you with lacrosse, you do the work and find the study that supports your rationale.
Uhh, they are both schools of thought. No fact on either side. All anecdotal. However, isn't it funny that Lacrosse is the only sport where you have this thought process. Top, Basketball kids are not told by the likes of Coach Cal, "make sure you play Lacrosse in the Spring". Are they? No, never. Is Sabin telling his top football recruits to play lax in the spring? NO. Are top Baseball, Golf, Tennis, Swimming, recruits told to play lax in the spring so they'll get "better" at their sports? NO. Only in Lacrosse should you play "Football" in the fall to get better at Lacrosse. Where is the logic? Why are none of these other coaches in other sports saying these things? HS aged athletes should play what they like. If its three sports, great. If it's one, that's great too.
Now to be clear, I am talking about HS aged athletes only. I agree little kids should be trying different things. If for no other reason than the over use issue.
I think that all Maryland teams with a "U" designation are middle schoolers only. HS teams are by graduation year just like LI.
However, my understanding is...
U15AA is mostly new 2018s who reclassified from 2017 at the end of their 1st time attending 8th grade
U15A is actual 2018s from birth paired with 2019s who are too old for U13 (U15A approximates U14)
It is fact that says if you play other sports it help build better motor skills. Playing one sport will hurt the sport the child could be best at. Look it up. Look at the best athletes in any sport they played multiple sports as kids.
I beg to differ, these boys from the Crabs was a U15 team with new uniforms attested by several of the parents from MD.
At this time of year HS players are not allowed allowed to play club - the crabs u15 is also all 2018s - no HS players
I told you. That Terps 2018 team is not that great. No way can they hang with the top 2018 teams in the country like the Crabs.
Crabs are U-15 not 2018.
Skill wise, lacrosse all year has its advantages
Athletically, lacrosse all year is fine (especially supplemented with the right strength and conditioning program)
Mentally, there are toughness attributes that a typical prep school, travel club kid does not have and will not gain on the lacrosse field. This is the differentiating factor for a multisport athlete. Football, Wrestling, Hockey and Basketball offer this (preferred sports in that order)
Football is 95% practice and only 5% games. Mostly pain, limited gain.
Skill wise, lacrosse all year has its advantages
Athletically, lacrosse all year is fine (especially supplemented with the right strength and conditioning program)
Mentally, there are toughness attributes that a typical prep school, travel club kid does not have and will not gain on the lacrosse field. This is the differentiating factor for a multisport athlete. Football, Wrestling, Hockey and Basketball offer this (preferred sports in that order)
Football is 95% practice and only 5% games. Mostly pain, limited gain.
How many D1 Top 30 college football, wrestling, hockey and basketball coaches are telling high school recruits that they should be playing other sports?
I sugest that you go check the rosters of the top college programs in the sports that you mention. What percent of the players came out of private / prep high schools? What percent played for a "club" team?
Also, what percent of the top athletes competed only with their town team?
It is fact that says if you play other sports it help build better motor skills. Playing one sport will hurt the sport the child could be best at. Look it up. Look at the best athletes in any sport they played multiple sports as kids.
Sooo, Tiger Woods became the golfer he was before he went nuts, by playing Lax??? Phelps became the swimmer he is by playing football? The Williams sisters honed their tennis skills playing which sport? Do you see how silly you sound?
It is fact that says if you play other sports it help build better motor skills. Playing one sport will hurt the sport the child could be best at. Look it up. Look at the best athletes in any sport they played multiple sports as kids.
yes, at the younger ages. as they approach HS I would say no.
That said, I hope my kid can play more than one sport at the HS level.
Yes you can specialize in Lacrosse and be tough. You do not have to be a two sport athlete to succeed. However, playing football gives you a toughness and commitment leg up on those who play only lacrosse.
Look at some D1 Lacrosse player bios
Duke for example:
- Fowler - football/wrestling
- Duprey - football/hockey
- Lobb - basketball/soccer
- Hipps - football (texas)
- Jones - football/basketball
- Haus - football
Skill wise, lacrosse all year has its advantages
Athletically, lacrosse all year is fine (especially supplemented with the right strength and conditioning program)
Mentally, there are toughness attributes that a typical prep school, travel club kid does not have and will not gain on the lacrosse field. This is the differentiating factor for a multisport athlete. Football, Wrestling, Hockey and Basketball offer this (preferred sports in that order)
Football is 95% practice and only 5% games. Mostly pain, limited gain.
How many D1 Top 30 college football, wrestling, hockey and basketball coaches are telling high school recruits that they should be playing other sports?
I sugest that you go check the rosters of the top college programs in the sports that you mention. What percent of the players came out of private / prep high schools? What percent played for a "club" team?
Also, what percent of the top athletes competed only with their town team?
Yes you can specialize in Lacrosse and be tough. You do not have to be a two sport athlete to succeed. However, playing football gives you a toughness and commitment leg up on those who play only lacrosse.
Look at some D1 Lacrosse player bios
Duke for example:
- Fowler - football/wrestling
- Duprey - football/hockey
- Lobb - basketball/soccer
- Hipps - football (texas)
- Jones - football/basketball
- Haus - football
Skill wise, lacrosse all year has its advantages
Athletically, lacrosse all year is fine (especially supplemented with the right strength and conditioning program)
Mentally, there are toughness attributes that a typical prep school, travel club kid does not have and will not gain on the lacrosse field. This is the differentiating factor for a multisport athlete. Football, Wrestling, Hockey and Basketball offer this (preferred sports in that order)
Football is 95% practice and only 5% games. Mostly pain, limited gain.
How many D1 Top 30 college football, wrestling, hockey and basketball coaches are telling high school recruits that they should be playing other sports?
I sugest that you go check the rosters of the top college programs in the sports that you mention. What percent of the players came out of private / prep high schools? What percent played for a "club" team?
Also, what percent of the top athletes competed only with their town team?
Those kids mentioned above played those other sports because they wanted to and liked them. It is doubtful they played to get better at lax. Further, they are all guys who had the god given athletic gifts. No amount of football made them any better at lax. Its just the opposite of what you're saying. The athletic gift allowed them to play multiple sports at a high level. Playing one sport didn't make them better at the other.
Yes you can specialize in Lacrosse and be tough. You do not have to be a two sport athlete to succeed. However, playing football gives you a toughness and commitment leg up on those who play only lacrosse.
Look at some D1 Lacrosse player bios
Duke for example:
- Fowler - football/wrestling
- Duprey - football/hockey
- Lobb - basketball/soccer
- Hipps - football (texas)
- Jones - football/basketball
- Haus - football
Skill wise, lacrosse all year has its advantages
Athletically, lacrosse all year is fine (especially supplemented with the right strength and conditioning program)
Mentally, there are toughness attributes that a typical prep school, travel club kid does not have and will not gain on the lacrosse field. This is the differentiating factor for a multisport athlete. Football, Wrestling, Hockey and Basketball offer this (preferred sports in that order)
Football is 95% practice and only 5% games. Mostly pain, limited gain.
How many D1 Top 30 college football, wrestling, hockey and basketball coaches are telling high school recruits that they should be playing other sports?
I sugest that you go check the rosters of the top college programs in the sports that you mention. What percent of the players came out of private / prep high schools? What percent played for a "club" team?
Also, what percent of the top athletes competed only with their town team?
Those kids mentioned above played those other sports because they wanted to and liked them. It is doubtful they played to get better at lax. Further, they are all guys who had the god given athletic gifts. No amount of football made them any better at lax. Its just the opposite of what you're saying. The athletic gift allowed them to play multiple sports at a high level. Playing one sport didn't make them better at the other.
Well said. So if I may, you might say that there is not one correct way to approach the topic, but personal view and preference, and passion for the sport may come in to play? Imagine that. Intelligent life on BOTC!
So this past football season the starting QBs from Chaminade (committed to Nova for lax) and St. A's (committed to G-Town)who are also the best middies on their respective lacrosse teams, have not benefited from playing football. C'mon man!!!!!
I agre the players intent was "wanted to and liked them" they did not play because of a desire to use the sport to get better at lax.
However, the result is the other sports helped instill a toughness and competitiveness that did help them on the lacrosse field.
I am not saying you have to play another sport to be good at lacrosse I am only stating that barring injury there is zero downside to playing these sports and that they are all catalysts for improved lacrosse performance. I am saying that lacrosse players in particular should be encouraged to play multiple sports due to the catalytic effect these sports have on lacrosse player performance (Football, Wrestling, Hockey and Basketball in particular).
Those kids mentioned above played those other sports because they wanted to and liked them. It is doubtful they played to get better at lax. Further, they are all guys who had the god given athletic gifts. No amount of football made them any better at lax. Its just the opposite of what you're saying. The athletic gift allowed them to play multiple sports at a high level. Playing one sport didn't make them better at the other.
I have heard coaches Danowski and Tierney speak on several occasions about this very subject and they both agreed that they preferred to see multi-sport atheletes when they recruited.
I have heard coaches Danowski and Tierney speak on several occasions about this very subject and they both agreed that they preferred to see multi-sport atheletes when they recruited.
Yet the majority of the kids they actually recruit only play lacrosse??
I agre the players intent was "wanted to and liked them" they did not play because of a desire to use the sport to get better at lax.
However, the result is the other sports helped instill a toughness and competitiveness that did help them on the lacrosse field.
I am not saying you have to play another sport to be good at lacrosse I am only stating that barring injury there is zero downside to playing these sports and that they are all catalysts for improved lacrosse performance. I am saying that lacrosse players in particular should be encouraged to play multiple sports due to the catalytic effect these sports have on lacrosse player performance (Football, Wrestling, Hockey and Basketball in particular).
Those kids mentioned above played those other sports because they wanted to and liked them. It is doubtful they played to get better at lax. Further, they are all guys who had the god given athletic gifts. No amount of football made them any better at lax. Its just the opposite of what you're saying. The athletic gift allowed them to play multiple sports at a high level. Playing one sport didn't make them better at the other.
First, please post from the bottom.
For the record, I'm not anti football, great sport if you like it.
However, you can also make a point that that the wear and tear on the body from a season of HS football most likely had more of a negative effect than the positives you preach. Why is it that "football" makes you competitive? I played it, didn't make anyone "more" competitive. Lacrosse doesn't make you more competitive, you either are or you aren't competitive. Again until someone comes up with a study to prove what your saying is so, I file it under the category of anecdotal information or a school of thought. Not based in any fact. Last couple of points I'll make. (admittedly anecdotal as well, but a bit more logical) Do you think lacrosse made Jim Brown a better football player? Or was it his athletic gift the thing that made him the football player he was? I say it was his athletic gifts. One more. Would an athlete like Jadaveon Clowny, who might be the number one pick in the NFL draft this year be any better at football if he had played Lacrosse? I think we all know the answer. Being 6ft 5, 275lbs and running a 4.45 40 is a gift. So why do you think any amount of football would make a talented lacrosse player any better. Zero logic to assume it would. Just like no amount of football will make you better at, golf, swimming, tennis, basketball or any other sport, no amount of Lacrosse will make you better at any of those sports either. There is no magic that comes from football.
I have heard coaches Danowski and Tierney speak on several occasions about this very subject and they both agreed that they preferred to see multi-sport atheletes when they recruited.
Yet the majority of the kids they actually recruit only play lacrosse??
Attack and Goalie are skill postions less likely to see multi-sport
Look at most D1 Lax midfields and defenses - they are full of players with multi-sport backgrounds
Duke/Danowski is a great example already noted
I have heard coaches Danowski and Tierney speak on several occasions about this very subject and they both agreed that they preferred to see multi-sport atheletes when they recruited.
Yet the majority of the kids they actually recruit only play lacrosse??
Attack and Goalie are skill postions less likely to see multi-sport
Look at most D1 Lax midfields and defenses - they are full of players with multi-sport backgrounds
Duke/Danowski is a great example already noted
Can you name some actual players that excelled mutisport? More than 1 or two please. Can you tell me how many college players on the Tewaaraten watch list are mutisport atheletes?
I have heard coaches Danowski and Tierney speak on several occasions about this very subject and they both agreed that they preferred to see multi-sport atheletes when they recruited.
Yet the majority of the kids they actually recruit only play lacrosse??
Attack and Goalie are skill postions less likely to see multi-sport
Look at most D1 Lax midfields and defenses - they are full of players with multi-sport backgrounds
Duke/Danowski is a great example already noted
If you are suggesting Duke would take a kid with less talent because they like the fact that he plays another sport then I think that is wrong. They take the best players they can get. If a top lax recruit happens to play another sport then that is "great" but I seriously question the notion that Duke or any other D1 school affirmatively looks for multisport athletes. I know that is what they say publicly and perhaps it makes them seem more holistic and chill...but it makes no sense as others have pointed out.
P.S. I think Fowler is a bad recruiting example anyway. Didn't he originally make the team as a walk-on?
This anecdotal story is three years old but when I saw Coach Danowski speak he said he had never had a player at Duke that played one sport in HS
don't have time to do the whole team but I did do the 3 goalies -
Turri - two time on league Basketball
AAron - Hockey and Football
Fowler - 3 time all league Football and Wrestling
(Fowler's brother also played 3 years of football at Duke in addition to lacrosse)
Something about a good athlete and a competitor that would make me think they would want to be playing for championships all year round and not just in the spring.
The suggestion is not that a lacrosse only kid would be rejected versus a multi-sport kid.
The suggestion is that playing more than one sport when you are a laxer is a proven good thing.
If your HS coach is advising you that lacrosse only is the best way to go, I would beware of that coach.
Jim Brown would have been great at either sport if he played only one. Jim Brown was greater at both because he played both.
Did Jim Brown play any sports besides Lacrosse when he was at Manhasset HS?
Is this a serious question ?? He would actually miss the first part of lacrosse because of football.
Is this a serious question ?? He would actually miss the first part of lacrosse because of football.
????? how long was the football season? He was also a great Basketball player - He was a four sport athlete in College
Jim Brown Quote "I'd rather play lacrosse six days a week and football on the seventh." ... and I believe the question was in jest, really doesn't require a serious answer.
[quote=Anonymous] This anecdotal story is three years old but when I saw Coach Danowski speak he said he had never had a player at Duke that played one sport in HS
don't have time to do the whole team but I did do the 3 goalies -
Turri - two time on league Basketball
AAron - Hockey and Football
Fowler - 3 time all league Football and Wrestling
(Fowler's brother also played 3 years of football at Duke in addition to lacrosse)
Something about a good athlete and a competitor that would make me think they would want to be playing for championships all year round and not just in the spring. [/quote
Connetquots, Mike Pellegrino, captain of John Hopkins, also wrestled and played football. Oh yeah, he won the Hansen award. Plays LSM and at 5'9" is a beast.
Lacrosse is a second tier sport. The best athletes in the world do not play lacrosse. Very good athletes who do not specialize in "lacrosse" can still compete at the Devision 1 level because the best athletes are not playing lacrosse.
College lacrosse coaches want the best athletes they can get ( but in most cases they can't get the best athletes) so they take what they can get. They take very good athletes who also have very good lacrosse skills.
Given the choice, most athletes choose division 1 (BCS) foootball or Division 1 basketball over Devision 1 Lacrosse. (how many have the option?)
Very few of the top Lacrosse/football players from long Island are offered full scholarships to play big time college football or basketball.
Not sure how many Long Island kids have chosen to play Lacrosse at Hopkins or Virginia for a partial scholarship over playing football at Notre Dame, Michigan or Stanford for a full Athletic Scholarship (including tuition, room & board, and all class related material "books").
As the sport continues to grow it will become more important to develop your skills because there will be more "Athletes" playing the game. All things being equal a coach will look to the player with the better skills and the higher IQ.
If you listen to the "stay home" and play only with the kids from your town crowed and the "play multiple sports in HS" crowed I think you will be in for a shock down the road (if the sport continues to grow). If it doesn't grow then it will not matter.
Too much here to jump all over. Try re-reading inserting the phrase, "...in my opinion." at the end of each sentence. It will make more sense. Really, try it!
Too much here to jump all over. Try re-reading inserting the phrase, "...in my opinion." at the end of each sentence. It will make more sense. Really, try it!
Most everything on this forum is an opinion.
I read the post in question again and yes it is the opinion of one person but I think it spot on.
Lacrosse is a second tier sport.
The best athletes in the world do not play lacrosse.
College coaches want the best athletes that they can get but they do not get the best athletes. (kids that can play cornerback in the SEC do not choose lacrosse as their college sport) Lacrosse gets very good athletes but not the best.
Are there many Long Island athletes who have turned down full rides to play football at Notre Dame in order to play lacrosse at Hopkins for 1/3 scholarship?
All “athletic” things being equal a college coach will select the player with the superior lacrosse skill and IQ.
The “stay home” and the “play multiple sports in HS” crowd will be in for a rude awakening if the sport continues to grow. The large majority of athletes who compete at the highest level in their chosen sport start to specialize at some point before reaching the top level. The athletes who compete at the highest level in other sports do not only compete with kids from their town. Hockey, Tennis, Soccer, Basketball and most other sports have well established leagues/teams/programs where the best play and compete. I doubt that the men and women from UConn only played on their town teams growing up.
So, aside from the typos, spelling errors and or alcohol induced grammatical blunders I agree with it.
Which summer tourneys are the top NY 2018 teams doing this year? We are a VA team and are doing young guns, dukes and patriots. Who will we see there?
Direct off their websites.
Terps: Adrenaline, Dukes, Tri Star Lax Clash, Best of the Best, Philly Showcase, Princeton Prospect Camp, and Lake Placid Lax Tourney
Extreme: JDRF, Beach Lax, Adrenaline, LI Laxfest, NXT Philly Inv., fl$ in 3d
Which summer tourneys are the top NY 2018 teams doing this year? We are a VA team and are doing young guns, dukes and patriots. Who will we see there?
Do most of the players attend all 6-7 tournaments?
I see one is in August. Haven't you lost all your football players by then?
Yes, Yes they do!
Do most of the players attend all 6-7 tournaments?
I see one is in August. Haven't you lost all your football players by then?
Direct off their websites.
Terps: Adrenaline, Dukes, Tri Star Lax Clash, Best of the Best, Philly Showcase, Princeton Prospect Camp, and Lake Placid Lax Tourney
Extreme: JDRF, Beach Lax, Adrenaline, LI Laxfest, NXT Philly Inv., fl$ in 3d
Which summer tourneys are the top NY 2018 teams doing this year? We are a VA team and are doing young guns, dukes and patriots. Who will we see there?
You should consider LI Lax Fest or Best of the Best. Those will probably draw in the best challenge for your club.
Would love to. I think we are set on schedule. Young guns was loaded last year I think.
Just want to know whats everyone's opinion are on these 2 events. National 175 and Top 205.
National 175 is partly owned by Chanenchuk ENOUGH SAID. 205 is solid run well good turnout
2014 COMMITMENTS from LI Express
Liam Blohm - Ohio State
Sam Bonafede - Princeton
Benny Borgognone - Fairfield
Kieran Byrnes - Villanova
Kyle Cain - St Joseph's
JT Caputo - Princeton
Luke Castellano - Cortland
Sean Cerrone - Villanova
Malcolm Flynn, Ohio State
Greg Galligan - Georgetown
Alex Georgalas - Vassar
Matt Isnardi - Army
Brendan Kavanagh - Hofstra
Ian Kirby - Towson
Daniel Katzman - Marquette
Tom Laupus - Providence
Thomas McAndrew - Binghamton
Pat McCormick - UNC
Andrew Nadjari - Army
Brendan Simpson - West Point
Ryan Simmons - Cortland
Thomas Stackpole - St. John's
Matthew Wysota - Villanova
John Young - Bowdoin
Yeah Enough Said about Chanachuck...
My son doesn't play for the express but you cant question his results. Oh wait you must be a 91 guy, here is their list:
2014
EJ Suris Mt. St. Marys
This NOT meant to be a shot at the Express, but how many of those guys are ST Anthonys and Chaminade ? The best and brightest want to attend those HSs. Those HS lax players then play on the Express. Kind of a chicken or the egg thing
2014 COMMITMENTS from LI Express
Liam Blohm - Ohio State
Sam Bonafede - Princeton
Benny Borgognone - Fairfield
Kieran Byrnes - Villanova
Kyle Cain - St Joseph's
JT Caputo - Princeton
Luke Castellano - Cortland
Sean Cerrone - Villanova
Malcolm Flynn, Ohio State
Greg Galligan - Georgetown
Alex Georgalas - Vassar
Matt Isnardi - Army
Brendan Kavanagh - Hofstra
Ian Kirby - Towson
Daniel Katzman - Marquette
Tom Laupus - Providence
Thomas McAndrew - Binghamton
Pat McCormick - UNC
Andrew Nadjari - Army
Brendan Simpson - West Point
Ryan Simmons - Cortland
Thomas Stackpole - St. John's
Matthew Wysota - Villanova
John Young - Bowdoin
Yeah Enough Said about Chanachuck...
My son doesn't play for the express but you cant question his results. Oh wait you must be a 91 guy, here is their list:
2014
EJ Suris Mt. St. Marys
Bull. He can not, should not take any credit for these kids getting picked up by those schools. Why is it that he doesnt even Coach the older kids anymore. Maybe it is because he made promises he couldn't keep. Wheres the list of kids he took $3500 from for 4 years and are not even on anyones radar. IT IS A BUSINESS TO HIM ALWAYS WILL BE. GC KIDS, CHAMINADE KIDS DID NOT NEED HIM TO GET RECRUITED.
2014 COMMITMENTS from LI Express
Liam Blohm - Ohio State
Sam Bonafede - Princeton
Benny Borgognone - Fairfield
Kieran Byrnes - Villanova
Kyle Cain - St Joseph's
JT Caputo - Princeton
Luke Castellano - Cortland
Sean Cerrone - Villanova
Malcolm Flynn, Ohio State
Greg Galligan - Georgetown
Alex Georgalas - Vassar
Matt Isnardi - Army
Brendan Kavanagh - Hofstra
Ian Kirby - Towson
Daniel Katzman - Marquette
Tom Laupus - Providence
Thomas McAndrew - Binghamton
Pat McCormick - UNC
Andrew Nadjari - Army
Brendan Simpson - West Point
Ryan Simmons - Cortland
Thomas Stackpole - St. John's
Matthew Wysota - Villanova
John Young - Bowdoin
Yeah Enough Said about Chanachuck...
My son doesn't play for the express but you cant question his results. Oh wait you must be a 91 guy, here is their list:
2014
EJ Suris Mt. St. Marys
There is no comparison for 91 Varsity kids and Express- 91 was just starting to build during these years... There will be much more of a comparison when the JV/MS bunch reach recruiting age and start committing. Nonetheless, the Express list is mighty impressive and I take nothing away from the organization, but see no reason to put down 91 either.
National 175 is partly owned by Chanenchuk ENOUGH SAID. 205 is solid run well good turnout
Right on, Channy is the best when it comes to this stuff.
He's the biggest scumbag involved with the sport of lacrosse and everyone knows it. He'd screw over anyone to make a buck or make a connection.
Bull. He can not, should not take any credit for these kids getting picked up by those schools. Why is it that he doesnt even Coach the older kids anymore. Maybe it is because he made promises he couldn't keep. Wheres the list of kids he took $3500 from for 4 years and are not even on anyones radar. IT IS A BUSINESS TO HIM ALWAYS WILL BE. GC KIDS, CHAMINADE KIDS DID NOT NEED HIM TO GET RECRUITED.
And yet 100s of kids tryout for his team. hmmm... He is the best at what he does. He is a honest guy and that's probably where all this nonsense comes from, truth hurts, I know. BTW, he cut my kid because he said he wasn't ready for his top team. So instead of anonymously bashing him on a board, I spoke to him about my son and he gave me advice on what to do and what club was the right fit for my son. And still invites him to his clinics, which are the best stick and shooting workouts around.
So please you obviously don't know the guy - don't be so darn judgmental.
Bull. He can not, should not take any credit for these kids getting picked up by those schools. Why is it that he doesnt even Coach the older kids anymore. Maybe it is because he made promises he couldn't keep. Wheres the list of kids he took $3500 from for 4 years and are not even on anyones radar. IT IS A BUSINESS TO HIM ALWAYS WILL BE. GC KIDS, CHAMINADE KIDS DID NOT NEED HIM TO GET RECRUITED.
And yet 100s of kids tryout for his team. hmmm... He is the best at what he does. He is a honest guy and that's probably where all this nonsense comes from, truth hurts, I know. BTW, he cut my kid because he said he wasn't ready for his top team. So instead of anonymously bashing him on a board, I spoke to him about my son and he gave me advice on what to do and what club was the right fit for my son. And still invites him to his clinics, which are the best stick and shooting workouts around.
So please you obviously don't know the guy - don't be so darn judgmental.
I like the guy, but your comment "still invites him to his clinics" is interesting. Do you pay double?
HONEST GUY?????
Did u just describe Channy as an honest guy?
National 175 is partly owned by Chanenchuk ENOUGH SAID. 205 is solid run well good turnout
My kids have nothing to do with Express or MC. Top 205 is more like top 805. Awful. 175 is by far a better showcase.
He definitely will tell you like it is, if your kid sucks he will let you know !! and he will also give you advice on what to do with your kid to improve , He will never sugarcoat you like 91 or even now Legacy which will tell you everything is fine don't worry as the season comes and goes and you are numb from your kid not playing after the story has been changed a dozen times on words you want to hear from a director to keep your high hopes going for your kid , then BAM its tooooo late Sorry seasons over.
People hate channy because he speaks the truth , oh and like no other program would rob you blind either?? they are all the same , out to make money or they would actually have to work for a living !
Bull. He can not, should not take any credit for these kids getting picked up by those schools. Why is it that he doesnt even Coach the older kids anymore. Maybe it is because he made promises he couldn't keep. Wheres the list of kids he took $3500 from for 4 years and are not even on anyones radar. IT IS A BUSINESS TO HIM ALWAYS WILL BE. GC KIDS, CHAMINADE KIDS DID NOT NEED HIM TO GET RECRUITED.
And yet 100s of kids tryout for his team. hmmm... He is the best at what he does. He is a honest guy and that's probably where all this nonsense comes from, truth hurts, I know. BTW, he cut my kid because he said he wasn't ready for his top team. So instead of anonymously bashing him on a board, I spoke to him about my son and he gave me advice on what to do and what club was the right fit for my son. And still invites him to his clinics, which are the best stick and shooting workouts around.
So please you obviously don't know the guy - don't be so darn judgmental.
Not sure if I have ever heard of a kid getting cut from Express. Are you telling me your son did make the Orange, Blue, Blue 2, White, White 2, Green, Maroon, Purple, Turtles, Barracudas, Aqua and all the other colors and names they have for each grade. Love the fact he cut your kid but you keep putting money in his pocket for clinics. Only reason he is there is to collect the money. If you go to any tryouts anywhere for UnderArmour, Nassau team anything and he is involved rest assure the fix is in. For every 1 kid he actually helps he screws 20
EXPRESS IS NOT SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF CHANNY. THE PEOPLE ABOVE HIM ARE ALL GOOD GUYS THAT DO THE RIGHT THING THAT IS WHY THEY MOVED HIM DOWN TO THE YOUNGER KIDS THEY REALIZED THEY WERE GETTING A BAD REPUTATION AND DID NOT WANT HIM AROUNF THE JUNIORS AND SENIORS
Not sure if I have ever heard of a kid getting cut from Express. Are you telling me your son did make the Orange, Blue, Blue 2, White, White 2, Green, Maroon, Purple, Turtles, Barracudas, Aqua and all the other colors and names they have for each grade. Love the fact he cut your kid but you keep putting money in his pocket for clinics. Only reason he is there is to collect the money. If you go to any tryouts anywhere for UnderArmour, Nassau team anything and he is involved rest assure the fix is in. For every 1 kid he actually helps he screws 20
EXPRESS IS NOT SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF CHANNY. THE PEOPLE ABOVE HIM ARE ALL GOOD GUYS THAT DO THE RIGHT THING THAT IS WHY THEY MOVED HIM DOWN TO THE YOUNGER KIDS THEY REALIZED THEY WERE GETTING A BAD REPUTATION AND DID NOT WANT HIM AROUNF THE JUNIORS AND SENIORS
One thing for sure is that you have no idea what you're talking about.
And your wife is losing weight and change her hair style for you. Keep giving him your money you are a fool.
Not sure if I have ever heard of a kid getting cut from Express. Are you telling me your son did make the Orange, Blue, Blue 2, White, White 2, Green, Maroon, Purple, Turtles, Barracudas, Aqua and all the other colors and names they have for each grade. Love the fact he cut your kid but you keep putting money in his pocket for clinics. Only reason he is there is to collect the money. If you go to any tryouts anywhere for UnderArmour, Nassau team anything and he is involved rest assure the fix is in. For every 1 kid he actually helps he screws 20
EXPRESS IS NOT SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF CHANNY. THE PEOPLE ABOVE HIM ARE ALL GOOD GUYS THAT DO THE RIGHT THING THAT IS WHY THEY MOVED HIM DOWN TO THE YOUNGER KIDS THEY REALIZED THEY WERE GETTING A BAD REPUTATION AND DID NOT WANT HIM AROUNF THE JUNIORS AND SENIORS
You are obviously drunk. Move over to the 91 page…as a typical 91 parent, you have no idea what you are talking about….
And your wife is losing weight and change her hair style for you. Keep giving him your money you are a fool.
Still drunk?
Not sure if I have ever heard of a kid getting cut from Express. Are you telling me your son did make the Orange, Blue, Blue 2, White, White 2, Green, Maroon, Purple, Turtles, Barracudas, Aqua and all the other colors and names they have for each grade. Love the fact he cut your kid but you keep putting money in his pocket for clinics. Only reason he is there is to collect the money. If you go to any tryouts anywhere for UnderArmour, Nassau team anything and he is involved rest assure the fix is in. For every 1 kid he actually helps he screws 20
EXPRESS IS NOT SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF CHANNY. THE PEOPLE ABOVE HIM ARE ALL GOOD GUYS THAT DO THE RIGHT THING THAT IS WHY THEY MOVED HIM DOWN TO THE YOUNGER KIDS THEY REALIZED THEY WERE GETTING A BAD REPUTATION AND DID NOT WANT HIM AROUNF THE JUNIORS AND SENIORS
You are obviously drunk. Move over to the 91 page…as a typical 91 parent, you have no idea what you are talking about….
At least he knew where the caps lock button was.
Must chime in here. I am not a coach, but my son has played for a few years and I've been able to watch and learn from all coaches; be they in his program or others while he has played. I might not have always agreed with all of their decision, but I had confidence that the coaches knew what they were doing.
If you are not happy with a coach from your club team, for whatever reason; please refrain from using disparaging remarks when discussing them. Not everyone will agree on a particular coach or club team philosophy, but you are free to choose another team for your child to be coached by and play for.
There is no need to sink to a level where a man's business is critiqued if your child did not develop into the superstar you were hoping for.
These coaches don't make promises of making your kid into anything more than he or she already is. But if you are lucky, your child will become a better player, teammate and develop confidence.
Don't blame others for the shortcomings that may befall your little player. Urge him to try his best and to always have fun. The moment lax isn't fun for the child is the moment to seek another environment or another sport. It should not be a negative experience.
Well said. I was starting to worry that this was going to turn into the Same nonsense as the SWR thread!
Well said to the poster above. I am sorry to see that some people have had a bad experience with Chanenchuk and feel the need to air it here. However, my son has played for him for years and he is really happy with his coaches and his teammates. If he is happy, then we are happy. He has grown as a player and Chanenchuk has always been honest with my son on what he is doing well with and what he needs to work on. I am sure that the majority of the team (if not all) feels the same way.
Great point! Sometimes it can be more difficult to accept or know the truth about your own kid. Don't put the blame off on someone else -own it & accept your kid for who they are.
Last point the express is not a non-profit organization and they never have pretended to be, this is the business Lacrosse. Those who are complaining about money, do you go to work every day for free?
Great point! Sometimes it can be more difficult to accept or know the truth about your own kid. Don't put the blame off on someone else -own it & accept your kid for who they are.
Last point the express is not a non-profit organization and they never have pretended to be, this is the business Lacrosse. Those who are complaining about money, do you go to work every day for free?
Exactly! If I want to pay as the comsumer, that's my business. Mike is a fantastic devoloper of youth players. Pay no attention to the nay sayers.
Great point! Sometimes it can be more difficult to accept or know the truth about your own kid. Don't put the blame off on someone else -own it & accept your kid for who they are.
Last point the express is not a non-profit organization and they never have pretended to be, this is the business Lacrosse. Those who are complaining about money, do you go to work every day for free?
Exactly! If I want to pay as the comsumer, that's my business. Mike is a fantastic devoloper of youth players. Pay no attention to the nay sayers.
In my opinion...
I Concur!
Giving Mike an aweful lot of credit. Yes it is a business and there are many involved not just him. As parents you need to make the right decisions for your kids but just remember if a customer walks in the door you going to try and sell them or let them walk away. You as the consumer needs to do your homework. Youth teams are only as good as the coaches. Some give 100% some don't. Again do your homework. Mike does not coach every team so yes it is a good program.
Great point! Sometimes it can be more difficult to accept or know the truth about your own kid. Don't put the blame off on someone else -own it & accept your kid for who they are.
Last point the express is not a non-profit organization and they never have pretended to be, this is the business Lacrosse. Those who are complaining about money, do you go to work every day for free?
Exactly! If I want to pay as the comsumer, that's my business. Mike is a fantastic devoloper of youth players. Pay no attention to the nay sayers.
In my opinion...
I Concur!
DITTO!
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Unfortunately, you have to miss the tourney. The Brine National Academy is a premiere event and is an incredible accomplishment to be selected to play. An invite gets you 4 days of playing with the best, against the best, and being coached by some of the best. This is also a great first item on the your child's lax recruiting resume.
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Brine
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Oh what it must be like to have such "troubles"......Back door brag much?
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Oh what it must be like to have such "troubles"......Back door brag much?
I am the original poster regarding the question of Brine and Pro Player. I was in no way bragging just wanted people's opinions who have experience with this stuff. New to the whole Showcase, recruiting thing.
But in all honesty. The above poster sounds like an [lacrosse]. Your the parent who writes the town paper to tell them not to post the students who made honor roll because your kid didn't. Life is full of successes and failures and if your kid didn't make it sorry but it could teach them a life lesson. About 80 other players were also selected are you mad that they posted it on the Brine website. Your jealousy will consume you.
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Unfortunately, you have to miss the tourney. The Brine National Academy is a premiere event and is an incredible accomplishment to be selected to play. An invite gets you 4 days of playing with the best, against the best, and being coached by some of the best. This is also a great first item on the your child's lax recruiting resume.
I concur with is statement, the Brine is a great event especially for their last year of MS. Not even sure why coaches would have put their teams into this tourney knowing last December that some of their players already had a commitment to Brine's Best of Long Island.
And YES, the date for Brine had already been published.
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Brine
If you child is fortunate enough to be selected for the team to represent LI, they will have an experience that they will remember a long time. Truly a great experience.
Where is Brine being held ?
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Oh what it must be like to have such "troubles"......Back door brag much?
In my opinion, this response sounds more like a jealous father.
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Oh what it must be like to have such "troubles"......Back door brag much?
I am the original poster regarding the question of Brine and Pro Player. I was in no way bragging just wanted people's opinions who have experience with this stuff. New to the whole Showcase, recruiting thing.
But in all honesty. The above poster sounds like an [lacrosse]. Your the parent who writes the town paper to tell them not to post the students who made honor roll because your kid didn't. Life is full of successes and failures and if your kid didn't make it sorry but it could teach them a life lesson. About 80 other players were also selected are you mad that they posted it on the Brine website. Your jealousy will consume you.
....and so will your hubris. I'll bet my paycheck you already decided to go to Brine before submitting your post. And if you want to argue I am wrong and you were truly making the decision based on the ramblings of anonymous people on this site then forgive me for not believing you.
P.S. Nice touch also referring everyone to the Brine website to read about the selections. How very low-key of you! Give me a break, dude....
Where is Brine being held ?
Maryland SoccerPlex
c'mon you can't expect us to believe that this novice parent knows enough to get his son to the Brine tryouts, but he/she mentions being new to showcase thing. Obviously knows a little about recruiting value, but doesn't know Pro Player is an insignificant spring tourney with no recruiting value. Sorry I don't buy it either. Good Luck to your son.
So true. What rock did he crawl from under and ask " what should I do "
How bout u take your post and stick it straight up your candy *ss.
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Oh what it must be like to have such "troubles"......Back door brag much?
I am the original poster regarding the question of Brine and Pro Player. I was in no way bragging just wanted people's opinions who have experience with this stuff. New to the whole Showcase, recruiting thing.
But in all honesty. The above poster sounds like an [lacrosse]. Your the parent who writes the town paper to tell them not to post the students who made honor roll because your kid didn't. Life is full of successes and failures and if your kid didn't make it sorry but it could teach them a life lesson. About 80 other players were also selected are you mad that they posted it on the Brine website. Your jealousy will consume you.
....and so will your hubris. I'll bet my paycheck you already decided to go to Brine before submitting your post. And if you want to argue I am wrong and you were truly making the decision based on the ramblings of anonymous people on this site then forgive me for not believing you.
P.S. Nice touch also referring everyone to the Brine website to read about the selections. How very low-key of you! Give me a break, dude....
Aww did Johnny not make it. Too bad. Sorry for that. Stop being such a hater. Did I mention my child's name. You need to take your medication. Everyone knows about the Brine website and listing of names. If I were putting my sons name out there it would be a totally different story to get him noticed. In regards to me asking people's opinions on this site there are a large number of good people on this site that give good advice. There are a number of jealous haters which you fall into that have nothing but negative venom to spew. Did you go to the dictionary for the word hubris because if I were being hubristic I would never ask for peoples opinions and state any great accomplishments and not take credit for them. That is they way the word is used.
To the other poster yes of course I know about Brine and am very proud he was selected but its a tough situation to be in. This is one of the only recruiting events that conflicts with a tournament. That's all. Nothing more nothing less about it. The more people I speak to, they say go to the Brine event Saturday. Just feel badly about leaving his team hanging. Despite what you or the other poster have said.
Thank you to all the other people who have taken the time to respond to my initial post.
If any organization has a problem with you missing a BS spring tournament over Brine tryouts , then next year find another team. I doubt you will get any grief. If your son becomes a recruit, which sounds likely- these organizations will have no problem putting his name on their website in the future.
Am I being naïve, but I don't think Brine is a recruiting event? yes, nice to put on resume and wonderful experience but I don't think it is a recruiting event...am I wrong?
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Oh what it must be like to have such "troubles"......Back door brag much?
I am the original poster regarding the question of Brine and Pro Player. I was in no way bragging just wanted people's opinions who have experience with this stuff. New to the whole Showcase, recruiting thing.
But in all honesty. The above poster sounds like an [lacrosse]. Your the parent who writes the town paper to tell them not to post the students who made honor roll because your kid didn't. Life is full of successes and failures and if your kid didn't make it sorry but it could teach them a life lesson. About 80 other players were also selected are you mad that they posted it on the Brine website. Your jealousy will consume you.
....and so will your hubris. I'll bet my paycheck you already decided to go to Brine before submitting your post. And if you want to argue I am wrong and you were truly making the decision based on the ramblings of anonymous people on this site then forgive me for not believing you.
P.S. Nice touch also referring everyone to the Brine website to read about the selections. How very low-key of you! Give me a break, dude....
Aww did Johnny not make it. Too bad. Sorry for that. Stop being such a hater. Did I mention my child's name. You need to take your medication. Everyone knows about the Brine website and listing of names. If I were putting my sons name out there it would be a totally different story to get him noticed. In regards to me asking people's opinions on this site there are a large number of good people on this site that give good advice. There are a number of jealous haters which you fall into that have nothing but negative venom to spew. Did you go to the dictionary for the word hubris because if I were being hubristic I would never ask for peoples opinions and state any great accomplishments and not take credit for them. That is they way the word is used.
To the other poster yes of course I know about Brine and am very proud he was selected but its a tough situation to be in. This is one of the only recruiting events that conflicts with a tournament. That's all. Nothing more nothing less about it. The more people I speak to, they say go to the Brine event Saturday. Just feel badly about leaving his team hanging. Despite what you or the other poster have said.
Thank you to all the other people who have taken the time to respond to my initial post.
Feel better?
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Oh what it must be like to have such "troubles"......Back door brag much?
I am the original poster regarding the question of Brine and Pro Player. I was in no way bragging just wanted people's opinions who have experience with this stuff. New to the whole Showcase, recruiting thing.
But in all honesty. The above poster sounds like an [lacrosse]. Your the parent who writes the town paper to tell them not to post the students who made honor roll because your kid didn't. Life is full of successes and failures and if your kid didn't make it sorry but it could teach them a life lesson. About 80 other players were also selected are you mad that they posted it on the Brine website. Your jealousy will consume you.
....and so will your hubris. I'll bet my paycheck you already decided to go to Brine before submitting your post. And if you want to argue I am wrong and you were truly making the decision based on the ramblings of anonymous people on this site then forgive me for not believing you.
P.S. Nice touch also referring everyone to the Brine website to read about the selections. How very low-key of you! Give me a break, dude....
Aww did Johnny not make it. Too bad. Sorry for that. Stop being such a hater. Did I mention my child's name. You need to take your medication. Everyone knows about the Brine website and listing of names. If I were putting my sons name out there it would be a totally different story to get him noticed. In regards to me asking people's opinions on this site there are a large number of good people on this site that give good advice. There are a number of jealous haters which you fall into that have nothing but negative venom to spew. Did you go to the dictionary for the word hubris because if I were being hubristic I would never ask for peoples opinions and state any great accomplishments and not take credit for them. That is they way the word is used.
To the other poster yes of course I know about Brine and am very proud he was selected but its a tough situation to be in. This is one of the only recruiting events that conflicts with a tournament. That's all. Nothing more nothing less about it. The more people I speak to, they say go to the Brine event Saturday. Just feel badly about leaving his team hanging. Despite what you or the other poster have said.
Thank you to all the other people who have taken the time to respond to my initial post.
You are looking a little disingenuous when you follow what is a reasonable response from you with another paragraph with your own hate. If all you truly want was others opinion, you got some and just ignore the rest of the comments. Why are you engaging them? as you have pointed out you are anonymous and know one knows your sons name either so why throw rocks back and forth if all you wanted was other folks opinions?
Am I being naïve, but I don't think Brine is a recruiting event? yes, nice to put on resume and wonderful experience but I don't think it is a recruiting event...am I wrong?
You are correct. My older son attended a couple years ago. Was fun, but has abslutly no bearing on anything!
Pro player travel team tournament and Brine Pride of Long Island this weekend. As an eighth grader your travel team is playing in Pro Player but you have been selected to play in the Long Island Pride event. Issue is start time of Pride of Long Island start time conflicts. Which do you go to.
Oh what it must be like to have such "troubles"......Back door brag much?
I am the original poster regarding the question of Brine and Pro Player. I was in no way bragging just wanted people's opinions who have experience with this stuff. New to the whole Showcase, recruiting thing.
But in all honesty. The above poster sounds like an [lacrosse]. Your the parent who writes the town paper to tell them not to post the students who made honor roll because your kid didn't. Life is full of successes and failures and if your kid didn't make it sorry but it could teach them a life lesson. About 80 other players were also selected are you mad that they posted it on the Brine website. Your jealousy will consume you.
....and so will your hubris. I'll bet my paycheck you already decided to go to Brine before submitting your post. And if you want to argue I am wrong and you were truly making the decision based on the ramblings of anonymous people on this site then forgive me for not believing you.
P.S. Nice touch also referring everyone to the Brine website to read about the selections. How very low-key of you! Give me a break, dude....
Aww did Johnny not make it. Too bad. Sorry for that. Stop being such a hater. Did I mention my child's name. You need to take your medication. Everyone knows about the Brine website and listing of names. If I were putting my sons name out there it would be a totally different story to get him noticed. In regards to me asking people's opinions on this site there are a large number of good people on this site that give good advice. There are a number of jealous haters which you fall into that have nothing but negative venom to spew. Did you go to the dictionary for the word hubris because if I were being hubristic I would never ask for peoples opinions and state any great accomplishments and not take credit for them. That is they way the word is used.
To the other poster yes of course I know about Brine and am very proud he was selected but its a tough situation to be in. This is one of the only recruiting events that conflicts with a tournament. That's all. Nothing more nothing less about it. The more people I speak to, they say go to the Brine event Saturday. Just feel badly about leaving his team hanging. Despite what you or the other poster have said.
Thank you to all the other people who have taken the time to respond to my initial post.
You are looking a little disingenuous when you follow what is a reasonable response from you with another paragraph with your own hate. If all you truly want was others opinion, you got some and just ignore the rest of the comments. Why are you engaging them? as you have pointed out you are anonymous and know one knows your sons name either so why throw rocks back and forth if all you wanted was other folks opinions?
Just looking at the teams that are playing this weekend. There might be 2 or 3 kids (MAYBE) playing in the Brine. And those 2 or 3 kids would be coming from Outlaws Black or Jesters Black. The rest of the teams are B teams.
Am I being naïve, but I don't think Brine is a recruiting event? yes, nice to put on resume and wonderful experience but I don't think it is a recruiting event...am I wrong?
In my opinion...
WRONG! it was a recruiting event last year, the year before and will even be more this year. May not have all the coaches there that are watching the HS event watch the MS but I guarantee that they do quite a few come by to check out the rising freshman class.
Am I being naïve, but I don't think Brine is a recruiting event? yes, nice to put on resume and wonderful experience but I don't think it is a recruiting event...am I wrong?
In my opinion...
WRONG! it was a recruiting event last year, the year before and will even be more this year. May not have all the coaches there that are watching the HS event watch the MS but I guarantee that they do quite a few come by to check out the rising freshman class.
It is a solid event. Ignore all the other nonsense. If you go back and read all the Brine tryout rants, you'll see where the venom comes from.
Brine schedule and team info up. 4 teams each playing 3 games and then an all star game where the final team of 23 will be selected to represent LI at the Brine event in MD.
L. Name F. Name Pos Team
Baudo Sean A 1
Dutton Cole A 1
Varello Robbie A 1
Walsh Ryan A 1
Wichelns George A 1
Amorosana James D 1
Corcoran Sean D 1
Gomez Michael D 1
Houlihan Thomas D 1
Keneally Brady D 1
Verch Max D 1
Greenblatt John G 1
Petracca Grant G 1
Clementi Pj M 1
Lionetti Max M 1
Luu Justin M 1
Muldoon Liam M 1
Rockefeller Nolen M 1
Villani Christian M 1
Athanasian John A 2
Doran Ryan A 2
Rooney Tommy A 2
Sexton Jake A 2
Winkoff Kevin A 2
Gonzalez David D 2
Hueber Gus D 2
Marinello Frank D 2
Mcloughlin Theodore D 2
Rall Ethan D 2
Roselle Jt D 2
Trebing Calvin D 2
Bonafede Andrew G 2
Novellano Anthony G 2
Abshire Robert M 2
Dunn Cameron M 2
Ginder Jordan M 2
Glynn Chris M 2
Hussey Kevin M 2
Martin Drew M 2
Atlas Jeffrey A 3
Bamford Alex A 3
Lannig Jp A 3
Mcmanus Dillon A 3
Monitto Michael A 3
Conte Stephen D 3
Hawthorne Griffin D 3
Lenaghan Brian D 3
Magnussen Russ D 3
Mazzone Alex D 3
Tangredi Anthony D 3
Moschos George G 3
Yorio Zachary G 3
Donnelly Daniel M 3
Meir Brandon M 3
Pallonetti Ryan M 3
Russo Matthew M 3
Toomey Connor M 3
Vardaro Alexander M 3
Fawcett Rudd A 4
Girolamo Benjamin A 4
Kalbacher Liam A 4
Pucci Jack A 4
Ryan Tyler A 4
Brosnahan Brandon D 4
Caiazza Conor D 4
Governale Paul D 4
Hagenberger Michael D 4
Ochs Danny D 4
Tiedemann Jack D 4
Sageder Matthew G 4
Kuttin Sean M 4
Pappas Nolan M 4
Schreiber John M 4
Steinbach Kyle M 4
Woltmann Jimmy M 4
Zawadzki Kyle M 4
Brine schedule and team info up. 4 teams each playing 3 games and then an all star game where the final team of 23 will be selected to represent LI at the Brine event in MD.
team 4 will kick some butt - team two is way overrated and team 1 and 3 have not played anybody - only way half of team 3 made it is because their father is friends with the guy that owns it
Brine schedule and team info up. 4 teams each playing 3 games and then an all star game where the final team of 23 will be selected to represent LI at the Brine event in MD.
team 4 will kick some butt - team two is way overrated and team 1 and 3 have not played anybody - only way half of team 3 made it is because their father is friends with the guy that owns it
Have all bases covered. Way too funny. Looks like teams are broken down pretty fair.
Some of the boys are older then kids in high school. Of course they look good at 15
Am I being naïve, but I don't think Brine is a recruiting event? yes, nice to put on resume and wonderful experience but I don't think it is a recruiting event...am I wrong?
In my opinion...
WRONG! it was a recruiting event last year, the year before and will even be more this year. May not have all the coaches there that are watching the HS event watch the MS but I guarantee that they do quite a few come by to check out the rising freshman class.
Could not be more wrong. This is NOT a recruiting event: the coaches are mainly college coaches and thus in that capacity cannot and will not discuss "recruiting".
Certainly some will have their eyes open but the championship game last year,(won by Long Island north for the 2017 class) was not attended by any coaches other than those who were actually coaching the two teams.
Stop making guarantees that you cannot back up.
The Philly showcase, however, is a different story....couldn't fit another coach's camp chair along the sidelines at some games....
Thank you.
The three on that list that I know are all hold-backs. Should be 2017s.
Am I being naïve, but I don't think Brine is a recruiting event? yes, nice to put on resume and wonderful experience but I don't think it is a recruiting event...am I wrong?
In my opinion...
WRONG! it was a recruiting event last year, the year before and will even be more this year. May not have all the coaches there that are watching the HS event watch the MS but I guarantee that they do quite a few come by to check out the rising freshman class.
Could not be more wrong. This is NOT a recruiting event: the coaches are mainly college coaches and thus in that capacity cannot and will not discuss "recruiting".
Certainly some will have their eyes open but the championship game last year,(won by Long Island north for the 2017 class) was not attended by any coaches other than those who were actually coaching the two teams.
Stop making guarantees that you cannot back up.
The Philly showcase, however, is a different story....couldn't fit another coach's camp chair along the sidelines at some games....
Thank you.
But the Brine does offer some excellent opportunities for exposure. I think that's the driver for these kids that want to advance to MD. And why was last year called Long Island North?
Am I being naïve, but I don't think Brine is a recruiting event? yes, nice to put on resume and wonderful experience but I don't think it is a recruiting event...am I wrong?
In my opinion...
WRONG! it was a recruiting event last year, the year before and will even be more this year. May not have all the coaches there that are watching the HS event watch the MS but I guarantee that they do quite a few come by to check out the rising freshman class.
Could not be more wrong. This is NOT a recruiting event: the coaches are mainly college coaches and thus in that capacity cannot and will not discuss "recruiting".
Certainly some will have their eyes open but the championship game last year,(won by Long Island north for the 2017 class) was not attended by any coaches other than those who were actually coaching the two teams.
Stop making guarantees that you cannot back up.
The Philly showcase, however, is a different story....couldn't fit another coach's camp chair along the sidelines at some games....
Thank you.
But the Brine does offer some excellent opportunities for exposure. I think that's the driver for these kids that want to advance to MD. And why was last year called Long Island North?
From a 2017 parent (my 2 cents/opinion):
- Brine does provide some exposure, but is definately not a recruiting event
- Jake Reed in the summer starts the college recruting game in earnest for rising freshman
- As stated above, Philly Showcase in the Fall is the best college recruiting event for freshman hands down (better than Jake Reed Fall Showcase, Natl 175, etc.)
- Freshman summer - Maverick is the best recruiting showcase followed closely by Jake Reed, then Adrenaline Black Card and Warrior NSCLA Select Showcase
Last year there were two teams. Long Island North and Long Island South. This year there will only be one team.
Any idea why they are only going with one team from Long Island this year instead of two teams like last year?
How was the Pride of LI this evening?
When do we find out the team ?
When do we find out the team ?
Tomorrow or Tuesday
The level of play at Pride was very good. Teams were split up evenly. Toughest part was the games were only 20 mins with each team playing 3 games. Evaluators had very little to go by. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Some very good kids were sent home. Overall a good event. All boys chosen should be proud to have participated. Good luck to those selected to play at Brines event in MD.
The level of play at Pride was very good. Teams were split up evenly. Toughest part was the games were only 20 mins with each team playing 3 games. Evaluators had very little to go by. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Some very good kids were sent home. Overall a good event. All boys chosen should be proud to have participated. Good luck to those selected to play at Brines event in MD.
In my opinion... I agree!
The level of play at Pride was very good. Teams were split up evenly. Toughest part was the games were only 20 mins with each team playing 3 games. Evaluators had very little to go by. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Some very good kids were sent home. Overall a good event. All boys chosen should be proud to have participated. Good luck to those selected to play at Brines event in MD.
Should be interesting on who gets selected, some overall great talent that evening.
There was enough talent to send 3 teams (and I bet they would all have success) the defensive talent was outrageous.
The level of play at Pride was very good. Teams were split up evenly. Toughest part was the games were only 20 mins with each team playing 3 games. Evaluators had very little to go by. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Some very good kids were sent home. Overall a good event. All boys chosen should be proud to have participated. Good luck to those selected to play at Brines event in MD.
I know this will sound like sour grapes but the evaluators did not do much writing on their clipboards during any of the games.
What a talented group of boys Saturday night, Watching with the parents we were all amazed by the level of play. They all played with such heart. Unfortunately the last half hour was not what your would ever expect, these are 13 & 14 r old kids. They are some of the most competitive boys in sports but they are also teammates, friends and support each other. That made the ending very uncomfortable for many people.
The level of play at Pride was very good. Teams were split up evenly. Toughest part was the games were only 20 mins with each team playing 3 games. Evaluators had very little to go by. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Some very good kids were sent home. Overall a good event. All boys chosen should be proud to have participated. Good luck to those selected to play at Brines event in MD.
In my opinion... I agree!
Sounds like a little bit of a sham job.... AGAIN!
What a talented group of boys Saturday night, Watching with the parents we were all amazed by the level of play. They all played with such heart. Unfortunately the last half hour was not what your would ever expect, these are 13 & 14 r old kids. They are some of the most competitive boys in sports but they are also teammates, friends and support each other. That made the ending very uncomfortable for many people.
What happened?
What a talented group of boys Saturday night, Watching with the parents we were all amazed by the level of play. They all played with such heart. Unfortunately the last half hour was not what your would ever expect, these are 13 & 14 r old kids. They are some of the most competitive boys in sports but they are also teammates, friends and support each other. That made the ending very uncomfortable for many people.
Why they did dismiss them on the spot? A sort of implicit cut. If so, a little ruff. Or did they say dont read into it?
The level of play at Pride was very good. Teams were split up evenly. Toughest part was the games were only 20 mins with each team playing 3 games. Evaluators had very little to go by. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Some very good kids were sent home. Overall a good event. All boys chosen should be proud to have participated. Good luck to those selected to play at Brines event in MD.
I know this will sound like sour grapes but the evaluators did not do much writing on their clipboards during any of the games.
The first 20 kids were already picked. They were looking for 3-5 more out of 15 kids who were on the bubble. I know they were debating whether or not to take 2 or 3 goalies.
they bought the group into the middle and rad off the jersey numbers for the boys advancing to the showcase game, the other boys were given medals it took a little longer then you would like for the boys that did not advance but no real good way to do it, if they posted the numbers it still would have sucked to pack up and leave while your friend were getting dressed and ready to play another game but it was a first class event with a little blip.
There was enough talent to send 3 teams (and I bet they would all have success) the defensive talent was outrageous.
Agreed - not a lot of scoring(not nearly the number of goals you would have thought would have been scored) due to the impressive defense work
The level of play at Pride was very good. Teams were split up evenly. Toughest part was the games were only 20 mins with each team playing 3 games. Evaluators had very little to go by. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Some very good kids were sent home. Overall a good event. All boys chosen should be proud to have participated. Good luck to those selected to play at Brines event in MD.
I know this will sound like sour grapes but the evaluators did not do much writing on their clipboards during any of the games.
The first 20 kids were already picked. They were looking for 3-5 more out of 15 kids who were on the bubble. I know they were debating whether or not to take 2 or 3 goalies.
and you know this... because??? You are in the know!? I think you will be surprised when the final names come out.
The level of play at Pride was very good. Teams were split up evenly. Toughest part was the games were only 20 mins with each team playing 3 games. Evaluators had very little to go by. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Some very good kids were sent home. Overall a good event. All boys chosen should be proud to have participated. Good luck to those selected to play at Brines event in MD.
I know this will sound like sour grapes but the evaluators did not do much writing on their clipboards during any of the games.
The first 20 kids were already picked. They were looking for 3-5 more out of 15 kids who were on the bubble. I know they were debating whether or not to take 2 or 3 goalies.
and you know this... because??? You are in the know!? I think you will be surprised when the final names come out.
Yes I am in the know...and no I will not be surprised and neither will be everyone else.
There was enough talent to send 3 teams (and I bet they would all have success) the defensive talent was outrageous.
Agreed - not a lot of scoring(not nearly the number of goals you would have thought would have been scored) due to the impressive defense work
If the team had been selected back in December, there were definite stand outs, but Saturday night, WOW! Love watching great talent play against great talent.
I think the Brine was fair and set up very well. My son who is a Atatck was in the 1st group that was got cut and rightfully so. Their was a lot of better talent out there. The only thing that I question is, why did a 91 Extreme player make the 2nd tryout and wasn't present for the 1st tryout? Very strange? Good luck to all the boys who make the final cut.
The level of play at Pride was very good. Teams were split up evenly. Toughest part was the games were only 20 mins with each team playing 3 games. Evaluators had very little to go by. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Some very good kids were sent home. Overall a good event. All boys chosen should be proud to have participated. Good luck to those selected to play at Brines event in MD.
I know this will sound like sour grapes but the evaluators did not do much writing on their clipboards during any of the games.
The first 20 kids were already picked. They were looking for 3-5 more out of 15 kids who were on the bubble. I know they were debating whether or not to take 2 or 3 goalies.
and you know this... because??? You are in the know!? I think you will be surprised when the final names come out.
Yes I am in the know...and no I will not be surprised and neither will be everyone else.
Anyone who was in the know wouldn't tell people in a public forum they are. Oh wait its anon so he can claim that. Lol.
The level of play at Pride was very good. Teams were split up evenly. Toughest part was the games were only 20 mins with each team playing 3 games. Evaluators had very little to go by. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Some very good kids were sent home. Overall a good event. All boys chosen should be proud to have participated. Good luck to those selected to play at Brines event in MD.
I know this will sound like sour grapes but the evaluators did not do much writing on their clipboards during any of the games.
The first 20 kids were already picked. They were looking for 3-5 more out of 15 kids who were on the bubble. I know they were debating whether or not to take 2 or 3 goalies.
My son played in Saturdays event and I thought it was run fine. He didn't make final game but I was happy with his play. Yeah its tough to get cut but its better to experience it a little now than never. Many of these boys may have never been cut before so its tougher for them. This is a fine bunch of young men. Best of luck to all. Thought defense and goalie play was outstanding.
If your son is doing Blue Chip and this, he'll be going non-stop for a week.
The level of play at Pride was very good. Teams were split up evenly. Toughest part was the games were only 20 mins with each team playing 3 games. Evaluators had very little to go by. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Some very good kids were sent home. Overall a good event. All boys chosen should be proud to have participated. Good luck to those selected to play at Brines event in MD.
I know this will sound like sour grapes but the evaluators did not do much writing on their clipboards during any of the games.
The first 20 kids were already picked. They were looking for 3-5 more out of 15 kids who were on the bubble. I know they were debating whether or not to take 2 or 3 goalies.
2 or 3 goalies? Why?
Please do tell since you are in the know. All goalies played really well. From what I saw on Saturday any goalie chosen would have been fine. Especially with the defensive strength that was shown. Some had more opportunity than others resulting in more saves. My son a goalie had 6 saves in just one of his ten minute halves. Some point blank vs some of the better shooters. Do I think he should have been picked to play in final game [lacrosse] yeah but that's me being a supportive father and biased. Are there other goalies who might not have seen as much action but are historically very good goalies that were picked to move on, yes. Am I upset no. The problem with these tryouts for goalies is if they don't see action how to judge them. Do you go based on the tryout or previous performance. So a lot of times in my opinion some goalies are decided upon before a tryout. These goalies may not advance to the final team but took a spot for others that were deserving of a final look in that last game based on their performance at the tryout.
Things are changing. Kids are hitting puberty getting bigger, stronger, and working harder.
They must be having a difficult time cutting selecting from the 50 to 23, last year we knew the results within 24 hours of the call back.
Brine has posted the LI team, a lot of good talent left off the list, must have been difficult. Go to their website, select 'News."
Final list is out for Brine. Its funny that some of the alternates weren't even invited back for last game. How does that happen? Guess it makes their daddy's happy just to be on list. .
What a crock - 9 selected and 6 alternates (15 total) from 1 team.
Hope those 3 remaining kids who didn't get alternate choice get a refund, unless they didn't even show up.
Brine should be embarrassed to have their names associated to this.
What a crock - 9 selected and 6 alternates (15 total) from 1 team.
Hope those 3 remaining kids who didn't get alternate choice get a refund, unless they didn't even show up.
Brine should be embarrassed to have their names associated to this.
Why not just be happy for the players who made the list, i can think of several not on the list that should have been but seriously, STOP the NONSENSE, and just congratulate the players who worked their butts off, and if you were there watching, all the players who attended worked real hard.
What a crock - 9 selected and 6 alternates (15 total) from 1 team.
Hope those 3 remaining kids who didn't get alternate choice get a refund, unless they didn't even show up.
Brine should be embarrassed to have their names associated to this.
Which team had 15 kids selected? Is it Smithtown?
My kid made it. I feel bad for my son's friends how didn't make it. How can kid from 91 Extreme who did show up the 1st time at tryouts become an alternate? very Shady!!!
Last year there were like 13 Turtle kids and another 5 Express kids on the two teams. Noboby seemed to think there was anything wrong with that...
The level of play at Pride was very good. Teams were split up evenly. Toughest part was the games were only 20 mins with each team playing 3 games. Evaluators had very little to go by. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Some very good kids were sent home. Overall a good event. All boys chosen should be proud to have participated. Good luck to those selected to play at Brines event in MD.
After seeing who made the team...I guess he WAS in the know....
I know this will sound like sour grapes but the evaluators did not do much writing on their clipboards during any of the games.
The first 20 kids were already picked. They were looking for 3-5 more out of 15 kids who were on the bubble. I know they were debating whether or not to take 2 or 3 goalies.
and you know this... because??? You are in the know!? I think you will be surprised when the final names come out.
Yes I am in the know...and no I will not be surprised and neither will be everyone else.
Anyone who was in the know wouldn't tell people in a public forum they are. Oh wait its anon so he can claim that. Lol.
What a crock - 9 selected and 6 alternates (15 total) from 1 team.
Hope those 3 remaining kids who didn't get alternate choice get a refund, unless they didn't even show up.
Brine should be embarrassed to have their names associated to this.
Why not just be happy for the players who made the list, i can think of several not on the list that should have been but seriously, STOP the NONSENSE, and just congratulate the players who worked their butts off, and if you were there watching, all the players who attended worked real hard.
Very happy for those deserving of the selection to Brine, but what about the kids who didn't make it that deserved to. Being overlooked for reasons beyond their ability on the field. They worked their respective butts off also. How can a player who wasn't on the final two teams be named an alternate. If they weren't selected to play in the final game did they do something between Saturday and today to be named an alternate. Its just to make the powers that be happy.
My kid made it. I feel bad for my son's friends how didn't make it. How can kid from 91 Extreme who did show up the 1st time at tryouts become an alternate? very Shady!!!
I know the kid...total stud. He had a broken collar bone at tryouts. I have no problem with that.
Pride of Long Island????? Since when is Pelham part of Long Island?
Pride of Long Island????? Since when is Pelham part of Long Island?
You can tryout for almost any area. A player might of had a conflict on the day of first tryout or like some Long Island kids will go to the CT to get a better shot at making Brine.
My son was not picked he plays D any input on the poles that were picked know some but not all
True. Kid should live on LI. That's not right.
My son was not picked he plays D any input on the poles that were picked know some but not all
Defense is the strongest position on this team. Boys picked are top notch.
So what are the totals for Terps, Extreme, Team LI, Jesters, etc. ? Any surprises ?
Stud or no stud. He didn't tryout in the freezing cold rain and shell $100 so why should he be able to show up and take a spot away from a kid who went through 5 hours in the cold rain and earn his way in?
Total BS. Such political BS.
Last year there were like 13 Turtle kids and another 5 Express kids on the two teams. Noboby seemed to think there was anything wrong with that...
91 guys picked the team last year and half the A Team was Express Kids. They picked the best kids.
This year looks like a lot of 91 but also a bunch of Express kids.
You people don't get it, all of the boys who made the team are good. It is unfortunate that their are other good players who did not make the team.
Not every good player can make it.
My son was not picked he plays D any input on the poles that were picked know some but not all
Defense is the strongest position on this team. Boys picked are top notch.
All of the boys who made it are Top Notch.
True. Kid should live on LI. That's not right.
So a kid comes to the hardest area and makes it against the locals and you have a problem with that? I'd be embarrassed.
Last year, several kids went off of Long Island to make it. Couldn't cut it at home.
Yes, the turtles and express made the majority of the team. Any real question as to why the best kids on the best team were also selected to represent the best of Long Island?
It's not rocket science... The best get picked. Period.
Don't feel so bad that some type of epiphany didn't occur.....everyone has the same eyes and can see and appreciate the picks made.
Every does have eyes.... how can a player who was not picked for the showcase make it as an alternate?????
So what are the totals for Terps, Extreme, Team LI, Jesters, etc. ? Any surprises ?
Here is the break down by team affiliation for starters and alternates.
20 91 players
10 Express
2 fl$
2 Town
1 Team LI
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35 players total
True. Kid should live on LI. That's not right.
So a kid comes to the hardest area and makes it against the locals and you have a problem with that? I'd be embarrassed.
Last year, several kids went off of Long Island to make it. Couldn't cut it at home.
Yes, the turtles and express made the majority of the team. Any real question as to why the best kids on the best team were also selected to represent the best of Long Island?
It's not rocket science... The best get picked. Period.
Don't feel so bad that some type of epiphany didn't occur.....everyone has the same eyes and can see and appreciate the picks made.
You are so wrong. Best players don't always play on best teams. There were a number of players who should have made it but don't play for best teams (teams with best connections or most influence) and as a result were over looked or bypassed. Plain and simple.
Tell me how someone who wasn't good enough to make final game gets named as an alternate to the team and someone who made final game doesn't get named an alternate. Its called calling your coach who has 20 kids from his program on the team and complaining.
The whole Pelham gripe sounds pretty petty. He obviously earned his spot no matter where he was from. But lets make things a little clear, from the initial try outs they were posted as Long Island and New [lacrosse]. The site showed filled, please sign up in either CT or NJ. Pelham is technically lower Westchester & there is no Westchester or any other region for others to sign up in. I would find it more fitting for him to be in Long Island/New [lacrosse] then CT or NJ? I actually find it more impressive that he decided compete with the best instead trying out in one of the less competitive areas. Congrats Pelham!
The whole Pelham gripe sounds pretty petty. He obviously earned his spot no matter where he was from. But lets make things a little clear, from the initial try outs they were posted as Long Island and New [lacrosse]. The site showed filled, please sign up in either CT or NJ. Pelham is technically lower Westchester & there is no Westchester or any other region for others to sign up in. I would find it more fitting for him to be in Long Island/New [lacrosse] then CT or NJ? I actually find it more impressive that he decided compete with the best instead trying out in one of the less competitive areas. Congrats Pelham!
Pelham kid is a beast. He is good enough to make any region he tries out for. Its that plain and simple. He also plays for a LI team.
It will be interesting to watch the "alternate list" to see who didn't make first tryouts or second tryout get added!!! With 15 kids on the list - they remain short of a full team. If they create a second team, why would it include players that didn't tryout? I think this whole process is fishy and stinks of collusion.
The whole Pelham gripe sounds pretty petty. He obviously earned his spot no matter where he was from. But lets make things a little clear, from the initial try outs they were posted as Long Island and New [lacrosse]. The site showed filled, please sign up in either CT or NJ. Pelham is technically lower Westchester & there is no Westchester or any other region for others to sign up in. I would find it more fitting for him to be in Long Island/New [lacrosse] then CT or NJ? I actually find it more impressive that he decided compete with the best instead trying out in one of the less competitive areas. Congrats Pelham!
Pelham kid is a beast. He is good enough to make any region he tries out for. Its that plain and simple. He also plays for a LI team.
The Brine Directors encourage this. So if it their policy and you don't like it, don't participate. I realize some of the kids cut have never been cut from any team before and that's difficult. But move on, there are several other showcase type opportunities this summer, which you can still attend.
It will be interesting to watch the "alternate list" to see who didn't make first tryouts or second tryout get added!!! With 15 kids on the list - they remain short of a full team. If they create a second team, why would it include players that didn't tryout? I think this whole process is fishy and stinks of collusion.
HUH? Alternate means "to take the place of", in other words, if a selected player opts out due to conflict or injury, an "Alternate" will be chosen to take their place not an "Alternate" team.
It will be interesting to watch the "alternate list" to see who didn't make first tryouts or second tryout get added!!! With 15 kids on the list - they remain short of a full team. If they create a second team, why would it include players that didn't tryout? I think this whole process is fishy and stinks of collusion.
It only gets worse from here... Wait till you see the mess the UA tryouts are in few years. Total political BS story. Some kids definitely legit, others just ram jobs.
The whole Pelham gripe sounds pretty petty. He obviously earned his spot no matter where he was from. But lets make things a little clear, from the initial try outs they were posted as Long Island and New [lacrosse]. The site showed filled, please sign up in either CT or NJ. Pelham is technically lower Westchester & there is no Westchester or any other region for others to sign up in. I would find it more fitting for him to be in Long Island/New [lacrosse] then CT or NJ? I actually find it more impressive that he decided compete with the best instead trying out in one of the less competitive areas. Congrats Pelham!
Pelham kid is a beast. He is good enough to make any region he tries out for. Its that plain and simple. He also plays for a LI team.
The Brine Directors encourage this. So if it their policy and you don't like it, don't participate. I realize some of the kids cut have never been cut from any team before and that's difficult. But move on, there are several other showcase type opportunities this summer, which you can still attend.
They want the games to be as competitive as possible. They will take the best kids who tryout. Long Island Kids (boys and girls) have played for other regions in the past.
If you want to say that there are kids that didn't make it that are as good as kids that did that is fine. Please stop with the "he should have made it" BS. Does anyone on here actually think that any of the boys who made it are not good? Was there anyone who was cut better than all of the boys who made it?
It will be interesting to watch the "alternate list" to see who didn't make first tryouts or second tryout get added!!! With 15 kids on the list - they remain short of a full team. If they create a second team, why would it include players that didn't tryout? I think this whole process is fishy and stinks of collusion.
HUH? Alternate means "to take the place of", in other words, if a selected player opts out due to conflict or injury, an "Alternate" will be chosen to take their place not an "Alternate" team.
I past years they have created a second team. So where would they pick from the alternate list. So what the poster is saying is. How can someone who made the last game not be one of the alternates, but a person who was sent home is mysteriously made an alternate when they weren't good enough to make the last game.
It will be interesting to watch the "alternate list" to see who didn't make first tryouts or second tryout get added!!! With 15 kids on the list - they remain short of a full team. If they create a second team, why would it include players that didn't tryout? I think this whole process is fishy and stinks of collusion.
HUH? Alternate means "to take the place of", in other words, if a selected player opts out due to conflict or injury, an "Alternate" will be chosen to take their place not an "Alternate" team.
I past years they have created a second team. So where would they pick from the alternate list. So what the poster is saying is. How can someone who made the last game not be one of the alternates, but a person who was sent home is mysteriously made an alternate when they weren't good enough to make the last game.
In past years they selected 2 teams from the beginning, they decided to go a different route this year to mimic what they tested in Florida the past few years which is to have a Best of the [region] tournament.
Why only 5 attackmen? why not 2 lines? that's the only odd thing I saw, but there are 7 long poles?
Why only 5 attackmen? why not 2 lines? that's the only odd thing I saw, but there are 7 long poles?
Maybe because, as a number have posted already, the defense was loaded with talent.
It will be interesting to watch the "alternate list" to see who didn't make first tryouts or second tryout get added!!! With 15 kids on the list - they remain short of a full team. If they create a second team, why would it include players that didn't tryout? I think this whole process is fishy and stinks of collusion.
HUH? Alternate means "to take the place of", in other words, if a selected player opts out due to conflict or injury, an "Alternate" will be chosen to take their place not an "Alternate" team.
I past years they have created a second team. So where would they pick from the alternate list. So what the poster is saying is. How can someone who made the last game not be one of the alternates, but a person who was sent home is mysteriously made an alternate when they weren't good enough to make the last game.
In past years they selected 2 teams from the beginning, they decided to go a different route this year to mimic what they tested in Florida the past few years which is to have a Best of the [region] tournament.
How can they compare LI to Florida? How did our LI South team do last year?
Why only 5 attackmen? why not 2 lines? that's the only odd thing I saw, but there are 7 long poles?
That's easy, how else will they be able to take on of the Xtreme attack alternates who didn't make the showcase? Every tryout has political picks and you kind of expect it a little, but what these guys did by taking kids who were not even in consideration after the first round is blatant misconduct. If you had the team picked already and you were just looking for a few kids they should have said so. That wouldn't happen because they wouldn't have made any money! You can't make this stuff up!! God bless America.
Why only 5 attackmen? why not 2 lines? that's the only odd thing I saw, but there are 7 long poles?
Attack do not play hard, ride hard or run hard so they tend to not get tired, Defense is the hard working kids. Also you can always play a middie on attack and of the 7 poles you also run a LSM out of that group so attack is 5 players for 3 positions and defense is 7 players for 4 positions.
It will be interesting to watch the "alternate list" to see who didn't make first tryouts or second tryout get added!!! With 15 kids on the list - they remain short of a full team. If they create a second team, why would it include players that didn't tryout? I think this whole process is fishy and stinks of collusion.
HUH? Alternate means "to take the place of", in other words, if a selected player opts out due to conflict or injury, an "Alternate" will be chosen to take their place not an "Alternate" team.
I past years they have created a second team. So where would they pick from the alternate list. So what the poster is saying is. How can someone who made the last game not be one of the alternates, but a person who was sent home is mysteriously made an alternate when they weren't good enough to make the last game.
In past years they selected 2 teams from the beginning, they decided to go a different route this year to mimic what they tested in Florida the past few years which is to have a Best of the [region] tournament.
Also, by limiting LI to one team and other areas that had multiple teams from within their state to a single team, they can now offer other areas a chance to compete without having to increase the number of teams. Makes sense to me.
It will be interesting to watch the "alternate list" to see who didn't make first tryouts or second tryout get added!!! With 15 kids on the list - they remain short of a full team. If they create a second team, why would it include players that didn't tryout? I think this whole process is fishy and stinks of collusion.
HUH? Alternate means "to take the place of", in other words, if a selected player opts out due to conflict or injury, an "Alternate" will be chosen to take their place not an "Alternate" team.
I past years they have created a second team. So where would they pick from the alternate list. So what the poster is saying is. How can someone who made the last game not be one of the alternates, but a person who was sent home is mysteriously made an alternate when they weren't good enough to make the last game.
In past years they selected 2 teams from the beginning, they decided to go a different route this year to mimic what they tested in Florida the past few years which is to have a Best of the [region] tournament.
How can they compare LI to Florida? How did our LI South team do last year?
this isn't a comparison, it was what was stated at the opening ceremony.
Why only 5 attackmen? why not 2 lines? that's the only odd thing I saw, but there are 7 long poles?
That's easy, how else will they be able to take on of the Xtreme attack alternates who didn't make the showcase? Every tryout has political picks and you kind of expect it a little, but what these guys did by taking kids who were not even in consideration after the first round is blatant misconduct. If you had the team picked already and you were just looking for a few kids they should have said so. That wouldn't happen because they wouldn't have made any money! You can't make this stuff up!! God bless America.
Brine must be reading Back of the Cage and was shamed into deleting the alternate list from their site. Weak
Why only 5 attackmen? why not 2 lines? that's the only odd thing I saw, but there are 7 long poles?
That's easy, how else will they be able to take on of the Xtreme attack alternates who didn't make the showcase? Every tryout has political picks and you kind of expect it a little, but what these guys did by taking kids who were not even in consideration after the first round is blatant misconduct. If you had the team picked already and you were just looking for a few kids they should have said so. That wouldn't happen because they wouldn't have made any money! You can't make this stuff up!! God bless America.
Brine must be reading Back of the Cage and was shamed into deleting the alternate list from their site. Weak
How about... All 23 accepted the invite already. And they added a nice story.
Is this a serious question??? First the team was posted along with it's alternates. Suddenly, the alternate list is taken down. What was the reason behind it? One would think that Brine would want the best players to represent them NOT players that some coach of a travel team decides he wants based on his knowledge from coaching them (Especially that the majority of the players who made the team came from 91). If that was the case, then Brine shouldn't have held try-outs and charged fees of over $200 ($200 plus x 75 kids = $15,000 plus money grab) I wonder if Brine is proud to have their name associated with this (tryout)?
Its a very sad state of affairs when 91 has their fingers in so many pots. Didn't they have coaches as evaluators at the 3D Blue Chip event also. So they are pulling the strings at two of the premier showcases Jake Reed and Brine. Well doesn't that suck for all non 91 players. Wish what we said here actually had some influence. Maybe, maybe some of the higher ups from these showcase events will read whats posted on these sites and actually learn something. Looks like Brine did and took the alternates down.
Why only 5 attackmen? why not 2 lines? that's the only odd thing I saw, but there are 7 long poles?
That's easy, how else will they be able to take on of the Xtreme attack alternates who didn't make the showcase? Every tryout has political picks and you kind of expect it a little, but what these guys did by taking kids who were not even in consideration after the first round is blatant misconduct. If you had the team picked already and you were just looking for a few kids they should have said so. That wouldn't happen because they wouldn't have made any money! You can't make this stuff up!! God bless America.
Brine must be reading Back of the Cage and was shamed into deleting the alternate list from their site. Weak
How about... All 23 accepted the invite already. And they added a nice story.
That must be it - had to drop the alternate list in order to fit the nice story - I am guessing they were running out of space on the site. The controversy over putting kids who were not asked to play in the showcase game on the alternate list over the showcase invites had nothing to do with the decision to delete the list.
Is this a serious question??? First the team was posted along with it's alternates. Suddenly, the alternate list is taken down. What was the reason behind it? One would think that Brine would want the best players to represent them NOT players that some coach of a travel team decides he wants based on his knowledge from coaching them (Especially that the majority of the players who made the team came from 91). If that was the case, then Brine shouldn't have held try-outs and charged fees of over $200 ($200 plus x 75 kids = $15,000 plus money grab) I wonder if Brine is proud to have their name associated with this (tryout)?
Not a 91 parents (love how we have to preface that) but Xtreme is one of the best teams in the nation. Wouldn't stand to reason that they have the most kids on the team? Also, I am sure parents are filling up Brine's inbox with complaints.
If you refer back to the 2017 Brine BOTC comments from last year, you will see the same outrage and accusations about the evaluation process. Unfortunately you can't argue with results: One year later, that 2017 roster has 9 confirmed D1 commits and at least 5 to 7 others w/ "quiet" verbals or offers, 70%-75% playing varsity as Freshmen and close to 100% invited to Jake Reed & Maverick Showtime. Move on, let go of the anger.
Its a very sad state of affairs when 91 has their fingers in so many pots. Didn't they have coaches as evaluators at the 3D Blue Chip event also. So they are pulling the strings at two of the premier showcases Jake Reed and Brine. Well doesn't that suck for all non 91 players. Wish what we said here actually had some influence. Maybe, maybe some of the higher ups from these showcase events will read whats posted on these sites and actually learn something. Looks like Brine did and took the alternates down.
Does anyone know if there is a picture gallery from Saturday night? Or if there is a way to view/order pictures?
Its a very sad state of affairs when 91 has their fingers in so many pots. Didn't they have coaches as evaluators at the 3D Blue Chip event also. So they are pulling the strings at two of the premier showcases Jake Reed and Brine. Well doesn't that suck for all non 91 players. Wish what we said here actually had some influence. Maybe, maybe some of the higher ups from these showcase events will read whats posted on these sites and actually learn something. Looks like Brine did and took the alternates down.
Your are probably the same parent who tells their child that they were screwed out of a spot, maybe instead of trying to place blame or make excuses, encourage your child to work harder, learn from the event to work on areas that they feel needs improvement. I guarantee that your child is more honest about the outcome of the tryouts than most of the parents who come on the board to bash the various organization who setup the showcases. Yes 91 coaches did get involved in both Brine Nationals and 3d JR tryouts but so do several other coaches from other clubs. My son does not play for 91 but he will even admit that the players selected are top players. Same happened last year for the North team, but those were Express players, no Express coach was involved last year. I recommend that any 2018 player parent believes their child is at top level, sign up for the NAT175 Individual coming up in July. They added 75 spots and is by recommendation by Coach, HS or Club.
Let's just be happy for the players who made it, cheer them on to do well at Brine Nationals and work to make it next year onto the 2018 team.
The blame is fully on him and us for enrolling him in his proper/expected class year. So, I've asked my son to step up and work hard to move his birth date back one year, so he can be like all the other 2017s in the mix here ... err, I mean "2018s" (*wink*).
The list of Alternates is what brought the whole selection process into question.
Mine is true 2018 birth date appropriate...Didn't try out for Brine as we didn't even know about that one. It wasn't talked about on club team or among his friends. It seems parents can be pretty tight lipped about these events and try-outs.
He did go to Florida and got an invite to Jake Reed in Maryland.
Can someone please share how Maverick works? Is that only for 2017 and higher or did we miss that try-out? Do you need to go to a website and sign up? all help appreciated.
it is impossible to do a tryout with unbiased evaluators - anybody that is in the long island lacrosse community is at most two degrees of separation away from every kid on the field. No way to avoid it, understanding that, it is impossible to explain to a kid that was in the final game that not only was not selected for the team or as an alternate but kids not making the final game where on the list as alternates. It was just clumsy on their part and really means nothing unless one of those kids winds up on the teams.
Its a very sad state of affairs when 91 has their fingers in so many pots. Didn't they have coaches as evaluators at the 3D Blue Chip event also. So they are pulling the strings at two of the premier showcases Jake Reed and Brine. Well doesn't that suck for all non 91 players. Wish what we said here actually had some influence. Maybe, maybe some of the higher ups from these showcase events will read whats posted on these sites and actually learn something. Looks like Brine did and took the alternates down.
Your are probably the same parent who tells their child that they were screwed out of a spot, maybe instead of trying to place blame or make excuses, encourage your child to work harder, learn from the event to work on areas that they feel needs improvement. I guarantee that your child is more honest about the outcome of the tryouts than most of the parents who come on the board to bash the various organization who setup the showcases. Yes 91 coaches did get involved in both Brine Nationals and 3d JR tryouts but so do several other coaches from other clubs. My son does not play for 91 but he will even admit that the players selected are top players. Same happened last year for the North team, but those were Express players, no Express coach was involved last year. I recommend that any 2018 player parent believes their child is at top level, sign up for the NAT175 Individual coming up in July. They added 75 spots and is by recommendation by Coach, HS or Club.
Let's just be happy for the players who made it, cheer them on to do well at Brine Nationals and work to make it next year onto the 2018 team.
You have no clue. You are the parent who feels nepotism is ok. A spot gets taken by a player who should not be on final team. Its obvious better players were over looked and your ok with it. In regards to the kids selected yes they are good. You can ask them they will tell you better kids were left off.
Parenting moment here for you the above poster. Your child plays exceptionally well and happens to be on the same team and line as another player who doesn't play well. They were basically side by side the whole tryout. Its very obvious your son is better player. To the point where parents you dont know tell you how good he looks and he's a shoe in to at least to make final game, but he doesn't get asked to play. He knows how well he did (been training like a dog rain shine through injury etc.) and the other kid played poorly but makes final game. He knows the truth no explanation needed. I also think the kid who was selected knows the truth. Or is daddy blowing sunshine up his skirt and tells him he is the best. This isnt 5th grade anymore players are passing by those players everyone thought were the best. It will continue to happen.
The blame is fully on him and us for enrolling him in his proper/expected class year. So, I've asked my son to step up and work hard to move his birth date back one year, so he can be like all the other 2017s in the mix here ... err, I mean "2018s" (*wink*).
How many should be 2017's? I only know of 3 or 4.
I just got word your son did make the alternates...it was just a typo. Feel better? would your son? Probably not. And guess what? It is totally ok. I was at the tryout I saw a talent level that I seriously doubt would be surpassed by any regional/state/locale team. The talent up and down the board was that good. Does it help that players that were clearly better at the tryout did not make team or showcase game? No, but what sincerely matters is what the first sentence out of your mouth as soon as you got in the car. If you said "I love you, you played great, and I am proud of you" no matter what the turnout was that in itself should be the best part of the experience. If he did make the team he just realized or should, there is a ton of talent out there and it is getting tighter all the time - if he did not make it, make him understand he is this close...and he will be absolutely fine. You are not going to be able to watch your son play Lacrosse forever, make the most of the experiences and enjoy it while it lasts...it is going to go really fast..
it is impossible to do a tryout with unbiased evaluators - anybody that is in the long island lacrosse community is at most two degrees of separation away from every kid on the field. No way to avoid it, understanding that, it is impossible to explain to a kid that was in the final game that not only was not selected for the team or as an alternate but kids not making the final game where on the list as alternates. It was just clumsy on their part and really means nothing unless one of those kids winds up on the teams.
No evaluators from Long Island or state that is being evaluated. Solves that problem. There are plenty of great lacrosse minds that could evaluate this and all events. Think about how much money the event organizers make from just holding tryouts for this event. Minimal investment maximum return.
Look at players for what they are not the helmet they wear. Many times just based on assumption a player who wears a certain helmet people will assume he's really good. That player might see a total of 0 min playing time in a tight game on his elite team. But he wears the helmet so he must be good. Not always true.
Mine is true 2018 birth date appropriate...Didn't try out for Brine as we didn't even know about that one. It wasn't talked about on club team or among his friends. It seems parents can be pretty tight lipped about these events and try-outs.
He did go to Florida and got an invite to Jake Reed in Maryland.
Can someone please share how Maverick works? Is that only for 2017 and higher or did we miss that try-out? Do you need to go to a website and sign up? all help appreciated.
Maverick Showtime is only for 2016s 2017s this year. For 2018s, you need to send an email with background information to showtimelax@gmail.com by mid-August this summer at the latest. Info should include: name, grad year, height/weight, player and parent email, club coach and H.S. coach contact info, accolades/awards, etc. and then either your club or H.S. coach needs to submit a nomination as well. Maverick is the best, most high profile showcase out there right now as Jake Reed is still good but losing some luster with coaches b/c they have expanded the number of kids with 3D process. Philly Showcase is the best event in the Fall get nominations in soon for 2018s.
Its a very sad state of affairs when 91 has their fingers in so many pots. Didn't they have coaches as evaluators at the 3D Blue Chip event also. So they are pulling the strings at two of the premier showcases Jake Reed and Brine. Well doesn't that suck for all non 91 players. Wish what we said here actually had some influence. Maybe, maybe some of the higher ups from these showcase events will read whats posted on these sites and actually learn something. Looks like Brine did and took the alternates down.
Tell your son to pick a different sport, sh-- happens.
Your are probably the same parent who tells their child that they were screwed out of a spot, maybe instead of trying to place blame or make excuses, encourage your child to work harder, learn from the event to work on areas that they feel needs improvement. I guarantee that your child is more honest about the outcome of the tryouts than most of the parents who come on the board to bash the various organization who setup the showcases. Yes 91 coaches did get involved in both Brine Nationals and 3d JR tryouts but so do several other coaches from other clubs. My son does not play for 91 but he will even admit that the players selected are top players. Same happened last year for the North team, but those were Express players, no Express coach was involved last year. I recommend that any 2018 player parent believes their child is at top level, sign up for the NAT175 Individual coming up in July. They added 75 spots and is by recommendation by Coach, HS or Club.
Let's just be happy for the players who made it, cheer them on to do well at Brine Nationals and work to make it next year onto the 2018 team.
You have no clue. You are the parent who feels nepotism is ok. A spot gets taken by a player who should not be on final team. Its obvious better players were over looked and your ok with it. In regards to the kids selected yes they are good. You can ask them they will tell you better kids were left off.
Parenting moment here for you the above poster. Your child plays exceptionally well and happens to be on the same team and line as another player who doesn't play well. They were basically side by side the whole tryout. Its very obvious your son is better player. To the point where parents you dont know tell you how good he looks and he's a shoe in to at least to make final game, but he doesn't get asked to play. He knows how well he did (been training like a dog rain shine through injury etc.) and the other kid played poorly but makes final game. He knows the truth no explanation needed. I also think the kid who was selected knows the truth. Or is daddy blowing sunshine up his skirt and tells him he is the best. This isnt 5th grade anymore players are passing by those players everyone thought were the best. It will continue to happen.
This thread makes me laugh!!!!
Its a very sad state of affairs when 91 has their fingers in so many pots. Didn't they have coaches as evaluators at the 3D Blue Chip event also. So they are pulling the strings at two of the premier showcases Jake Reed and Brine. Well doesn't that suck for all non 91 players. Wish what we said here actually had some influence. Maybe, maybe some of the higher ups from these showcase events will read whats posted on these sites and actually learn something. Looks like Brine did and took the alternates down.
Tell your son to pick a different sport, sh-- happens.
Your are probably the same parent who tells their child that they were screwed out of a spot, maybe instead of trying to place blame or make excuses, encourage your child to work harder, learn from the event to work on areas that they feel needs improvement. I guarantee that your child is more honest about the outcome of the tryouts than most of the parents who come on the board to bash the various organization who setup the showcases. Yes 91 coaches did get involved in both Brine Nationals and 3d JR tryouts but so do several other coaches from other clubs. My son does not play for 91 but he will even admit that the players selected are top players. Same happened last year for the North team, but those were Express players, no Express coach was involved last year. I recommend that any 2018 player parent believes their child is at top level, sign up for the NAT175 Individual coming up in July. They added 75 spots and is by recommendation by Coach, HS or Club.
Let's just be happy for the players who made it, cheer them on to do well at Brine Nationals and work to make it next year onto the 2018 team.
You have no clue. You are the parent who feels nepotism is ok. A spot gets taken by a player who should not be on final team. Its obvious better players were over looked and your ok with it. In regards to the kids selected yes they are good. You can ask them they will tell you better kids were left off.
Parenting moment here for you the above poster. Your child plays exceptionally well and happens to be on the same team and line as another player who doesn't play well. They were basically side by side the whole tryout. Its very obvious your son is better player. To the point where parents you dont know tell you how good he looks and he's a shoe in to at least to make final game, but he doesn't get asked to play. He knows how well he did (been training like a dog rain shine through injury etc.) and the other kid played poorly but makes final game. He knows the truth no explanation needed. I also think the kid who was selected knows the truth. Or is daddy blowing sunshine up his skirt and tells him he is the best. This isnt 5th grade anymore players are passing by those players everyone thought were the best. It will continue to happen.
Well, you are right, this isn't 5th grade and my son was side by side with the players, but as a for a "parenting moment", seriously, get a life. there were several players who parents were talking about being a shoe in but you obviously haven't figure it out yet, I'll put into simple words for you, parents (that includes you and me) are not the ones who look to see for certain things that stick out in the evaluators' mind. Player may have phenomenal stick skill but constantly misses the cage, who really knows.
All I'm saying is congratulate the players who made it and move on.
I got a great idea. Let's post a bunch of BS anonymously everybody!!!!!!!!!!
What losers you people are.
Next complaint is going to be that all the kids picked are all odler and should be in 9th grade.
Pathetic.
How about for once you tip your cap and congratulate the kids
To the daddy who doesn't know how to use the site. And says "tell your son to play a different sport, sh** happens". Your reply is so well thought out must have taken you a while to come up with that one. Where do I go too far or make no sense in the post. Do tell!
Guess your the guy who buys cleats, helmets and mows lawns. Teach your kid the right way to get on a team. When it all comes down to it a players ability will be exposed good or bad.
My son actually does play other sports and excels at them. Doesn't need me to get him on teams. He earns his spot.
people who see their kid get cut and feel that it was unjust have every right to post here, not every kid deserved to make the team and the talent was very good but when you see what went on there particularly with the alternate list and your kid is upset it hurts and ranting anonymously seems like a better way to deal with it then punching someone in the face or kicking the dog.
I rarely go on rants but when I do, I usually do it on BOTC
Its a very sad state of affairs when 91 has their fingers in so many pots. Didn't they have coaches as evaluators at the 3D Blue Chip event also. So they are pulling the strings at two of the premier showcases Jake Reed and Brine. Well doesn't that suck for all non 91 players. Wish what we said here actually had some influence. Maybe, maybe some of the higher ups from these showcase events will read whats posted on these sites and actually learn something. Looks like Brine did and took the alternates down.
Tell your son to pick a different sport, sh-- happens.
Your are probably the same parent who tells their child that they were screwed out of a spot, maybe instead of trying to place blame or make excuses, encourage your child to work harder, learn from the event to work on areas that they feel needs improvement. I guarantee that your child is more honest about the outcome of the tryouts than most of the parents who come on the board to bash the various organization who setup the showcases. Yes 91 coaches did get involved in both Brine Nationals and 3d JR tryouts but so do several other coaches from other clubs. My son does not play for 91 but he will even admit that the players selected are top players. Same happened last year for the North team, but those were Express players, no Express coach was involved last year. I recommend that any 2018 player parent believes their child is at top level, sign up for the NAT175 Individual coming up in July. They added 75 spots and is by recommendation by Coach, HS or Club.
Let's just be happy for the players who made it, cheer them on to do well at Brine Nationals and work to make it next year onto the 2018 team.
You have no clue. You are the parent who feels nepotism is ok. A spot gets taken by a player who should not be on final team. Its obvious better players were over looked and your ok with it. In regards to the kids selected yes they are good. You can ask them they will tell you better kids were left off.
Parenting moment here for you the above poster. Your child plays exceptionally well and happens to be on the same team and line as another player who doesn't play well. They were basically side by side the whole tryout. Its very obvious your son is better player. To the point where parents you dont know tell you how good he looks and he's a shoe in to at least to make final game, but he doesn't get asked to play. He knows how well he did (been training like a dog rain shine through injury etc.) and the other kid played poorly but makes final game. He knows the truth no explanation needed. I also think the kid who was selected knows the truth. Or is daddy blowing sunshine up his skirt and tells him he is the best. This isnt 5th grade anymore players are passing by those players everyone thought were the best. It will continue to happen.
Well, you are right, this isn't 5th grade and my son was side by side with the players, but as a for a "parenting moment", seriously, get a life. there were several players who parents were talking about being a shoe in but you obviously haven't figure it out yet, I'll put into simple words for you, parents (that includes you and me) are not the ones who look to see for certain things that stick out in the evaluators' mind. Player may have phenomenal stick skill but constantly misses the cage, who really knows.
All I'm saying is congratulate the players who made it and move on.
Regarding get a life. You make the parenting reference in your post when you say "Your are probably the same parent who tells their child that they were screwed out of a spot, maybe instead of trying to place blame or make excuses, encourage your child to work harder, learn from the event to work on areas that they feel needs improvement" that is a parenting moment you refer to.
My son did congratulate all his friends and stayed to watch the whole last game to support those who made it. He has many friends who actually made final team and he congratulated them as I did. It is a small community and people see who the better kids are and also know those who got screwed.
Look who's calling the kettle black! ( mr. Anonymous)
Best part is that a week ago every one was saying that this isn't a showcase and were downplaying the event. Yet... so many upset people. I am soooooooo glad when I logged on it said "SOLD OUT". And when I called I was advised to just go to another region. I did, players were picked, nobody complained, and life went on. Must be our water on LI.
Best part is that a week ago every one was saying that this isn't a showcase and were downplaying the event. Yet... so many upset people. I am soooooooo glad when I logged on it said "SOLD OUT". And when I called I was advised to just go to another region. I did, players were picked, nobody complained, and life went on. Must be our water on LI.
From a parent whoe kid went to Brine last summer (2017), it was a fun event but no means a huge deal if you kid doesn't go. Maverick, Jake Reed in the summer and Philly Showcase in the Fall of Freshman year much more important to the recruiting process. Brine is a well-run event, representing your state/area, got first showcase-type event for the biys to get used to before Maverick, Jake Reed, etc. and it is probably modestly helpful of your son getting his name out there. But definately not the end of the world if you kid didn't make it or didn't sign up.I think the parents just go crazy (as evidenced by this Board) as it is the first time kids are selected for something outside of there club teams and there are a lot of emotions with making/not making it (frankly more for the parents probably than the kids unfortunately).
Look who's calling the kettle black! ( mr. Anonymous)
Who are you referring to?
Best part is that a week ago every one was saying that this isn't a showcase and were downplaying the event. Yet... so many upset people. I am soooooooo glad when I logged on it said "SOLD OUT". And when I called I was advised to just go to another region. I did, players were picked, nobody complained, and life went on. Must be our water on LI.
I think people were referring to the fact if the Pride of LI is a recruiting event. I believe everyone knows the Brine event is a good recruiting event. Its up there with Jake Reed, Maverick, National 175, Top 205 etc.
Best part is that a week ago every one was saying that this isn't a showcase and were downplaying the event. Yet... so many upset people. I am soooooooo glad when I logged on it said "SOLD OUT". And when I called I was advised to just go to another region. I did, players were picked, nobody complained, and life went on. Must be our water on LI.
From a parent whoe kid went to Brine last summer (2017), it was a fun event but no means a huge deal if you kid doesn't go. Maverick, Jake Reed in the summer and Philly Showcase in the Fall of Freshman year much more important to the recruiting process. Brine is a well-run event, representing your state/area, got first showcase-type event for the biys to get used to before Maverick, Jake Reed, etc. and it is probably modestly helpful of your son getting his name out there. But definately not the end of the world if you kid didn't make it or didn't sign up.I think the parents just go crazy (as evidenced by this Board) as it is the first time kids are selected for something outside of there club teams and there are a lot of emotions with making/not making it (frankly more for the parents probably than the kids unfortunately).
You're right. A lot of these kids have been on A teams since 3rd grade and have never been cut from anything. Being cut is a lot for them to handle. And as parents we get nuts because we see how hurt and disappointed our child is. This board is therapy for that.
Best part is that a week ago every one was saying that this isn't a showcase and were downplaying the event. Yet... so many upset people. I am soooooooo glad when I logged on it said "SOLD OUT". And when I called I was advised to just go to another region. I did, players were picked, nobody complained, and life went on. Must be our water on LI.
I think people were referring to the fact if the Pride of LI is a recruiting event. I believe everyone knows the Brine event is a good recruiting event. Its up there with Jake Reed, Maverick, National 175, Top 205 etc.
my kid was there last year and this is total crap. See post (mine) a few above from someone whose kid was there. Good, well run event and really fun for the boys but not really a recruiting event unless things are different than last year.
Best part is that a week ago every one was saying that this isn't a showcase and were downplaying the event. Yet... so many upset people. I am soooooooo glad when I logged on it said "SOLD OUT". And when I called I was advised to just go to another region. I did, players were picked, nobody complained, and life went on. Must be our water on LI.
I think people were referring to the fact if the Pride of LI is a recruiting event. I believe everyone knows the Brine event is a good recruiting event. Its up there with Jake Reed, Maverick, National 175, Top 205 etc.
my kid was there last year and this is total crap. See post (mine) a few above from someone whose kid was there. Good, well run event and really fun for the boys but not really a recruiting event unless things are different than last year.
In my opinion, from another parent parent who went last year, I agree! Well run, a lot of fun for the players to play and meet others from around the states.
Parenting Moment? Really Dr. Phil? The problem with your post is that your "opinion" is simply that, "your opinion". If I'm reading correctly, your son did not even make the "showcase" game? So maybe a little introspective reasoning might be a good start that maybe he didn't do as well as "YOU" think he did, or he would have at least had the opportunity to show his talents in the final deciding event. As far as "players passing by those who were thought to be the best"?, let's all just sit back and wait to see if the players who "continue" to dominate prove their "universal" talent when recruiting begins. Best of luck to you and your son.
My son attended Brine last year too and it was a great experience. He was exposed to lacrosse talent from all over the country and it was a great insight. Lacrosse transcends Long Island and when you strip away the team, each player comes to Brine with their own skill and talent. It's up to each player to represent themselves as best as possible and part of that is to learn how to adjust their game to play with different players with different backgrounds. It was as much a maturity and mental game experience as a sheer talent showcase. Our son loved it and it was a terrific for him and I'm happy as parents that we were able to see what he got from it. If you can get into Brine, it's great, hands down, if you don't... work hard because it's worth the experience.
Parenting Moment? Really Dr. Phil? The problem with your post is that your "opinion" is simply that, "your opinion". If I'm reading correctly, your son did not even make the "showcase" game? So maybe a little introspective reasoning might be a good start that maybe he didn't do as well as "YOU" think he did, or he would have at least had the opportunity to show his talents in the final deciding event. As far as "players passing by those who were thought to be the best"?, let's all just sit back and wait to see if the players who "continue" to dominate prove their "universal" talent when recruiting begins. Best of luck to you and your son.
The whole point of this discussion about Brine is the way some not all players were chosen. Explain to me this, how can a player that had a crap tryout really a crap tryout who was on the same line as my son be chosen to play in the final game. He wears a certain helmet can answer that. A few people did mention how well my son played and actually were surprised he wasn't chosen to at least be in the final game. Then another player who also wears a certain helmet wasn't even chosen to be in final game is named an alternate over other players who were in the final game. Please explain.
As for my son I am very proud of the fact he made it this far and he understands on his own that sh** happens. Long Island is a hot bed for lacrosse and people as myself are very passionate about it. When your kid works hard shows well and other kids are chosen for reasons other than their play it leaves a very bad taste in your mouth. As one poster said its better to discuss on the thread than kick the family dog or punch someone in the face. It is just a discussion of some of the things that just didn't sit right with many. I am not the only one who made this observation based on all that is being said about it on the site.
I think most of the problem stems from the staff. why would brine use 2 coaches from 91 to evaluate the teams. because of xtreme coach and the new relationship with the duke coach and the PW guy. it was bias from day 1. so these kids didn't make the team and everyone knows the buddy calls went in that night and then the xtreme kids show on the alternate list.cmon man. you guys are really low lifes.
Why are you all venting here? Email Brine.
I think most of the problem stems from the staff. why would brine use 2 coaches from 91 to evaluate the teams. because of xtreme coach and the new relationship with the duke coach and the PW guy. it was bias from day 1. so these kids didn't make the team and everyone knows the buddy calls went in that night and then the xtreme kids show on the alternate list.cmon man. you guys are really low lifes.
So unfair to assume this behavior of the event staff and coaching staff, next you going to start complaining about towns the players are from and how one town has more players than another.
Parenting Moment? Really Dr. Phil? The problem with your post is that your "opinion" is simply that, "your opinion". If I'm reading correctly, your son did not even make the "showcase" game? So maybe a little introspective reasoning might be a good start that maybe he didn't do as well as "YOU" think he did, or he would have at least had the opportunity to show his talents in the final deciding event. As far as "players passing by those who were thought to be the best"?, let's all just sit back and wait to see if the players who "continue" to dominate prove their "universal" talent when recruiting begins. Best of luck to you and your son.
The whole point of this discussion about Brine is the way some not all players were chosen. Explain to me this, how can a player that had a crap tryout really a crap tryout who was on the same line as my son be chosen to play in the final game. He wears a certain helmet can answer that. A few people did mention how well my son played and actually were surprised he wasn't chosen to at least be in the final game. Then another player who also wears a certain helmet wasn't even chosen to be in final game is named an alternate over other players who were in the final game. Please explain.
As for my son I am very proud of the fact he made it this far and he understands on his own that sh** happens. Long Island is a hot bed for lacrosse and people as myself are very passionate about it. When your kid works hard shows well and other kids are chosen for reasons other than their play it leaves a very bad taste in your mouth. As one poster said its better to discuss on the thread than kick the family dog or punch someone in the face. It is just a discussion of some of the things that just didn't sit right with many. I am not the only one who made this observation based on all that is being said about it on the site.
I think you are all missing the point here. The team was picked back in November. It didn't matter if your kid did or did not make the "showcase game". Everyone knows who the best players are. Especially all the kids who play with and against them. There should be no sour grapes about the top 23 kids that were picked. Those kids are the best, whether you like it or not. Sorry...
Parenting Moment? Really Dr. Phil? The problem with your post is that your "opinion" is simply that, "your opinion". If I'm reading correctly, your son did not even make the "showcase" game? So maybe a little introspective reasoning might be a good start that maybe he didn't do as well as "YOU" think he did, or he would have at least had the opportunity to show his talents in the final deciding event. As far as "players passing by those who were thought to be the best"?, let's all just sit back and wait to see if the players who "continue" to dominate prove their "universal" talent when recruiting begins. Best of luck to you and your son.
The whole point of this discussion about Brine is the way some not all players were chosen. Explain to me this, how can a player that had a crap tryout really a crap tryout who was on the same line as my son be chosen to play in the final game. He wears a certain helmet can answer that. A few people did mention how well my son played and actually were surprised he wasn't chosen to at least be in the final game. Then another player who also wears a certain helmet wasn't even chosen to be in final game is named an alternate over other players who were in the final game. Please explain.
As for my son I am very proud of the fact he made it this far and he understands on his own that sh** happens. Long Island is a hot bed for lacrosse and people as myself are very passionate about it. When your kid works hard shows well and other kids are chosen for reasons other than their play it leaves a very bad taste in your mouth. As one poster said its better to discuss on the thread than kick the family dog or punch someone in the face. It is just a discussion of some of the things that just didn't sit right with many. I am not the only one who made this observation based on all that is being said about it on the site.
I think you are all missing the point here. The team was picked back in November. It didn't matter if your kid did or did not make the "showcase game". Everyone knows who the best players are. Especially all the kids who play with and against them. There should be no sour grapes about the top 23 kids that were picked. Those kids are the best, whether you like it or not. Sorry...
The best kids were not picked. The team LI goalie should be on that team. Because you wears a 91 helmet doesn't mean your the best. Yes there are great kids on the team but the best were not picked.
Why are you all venting here? Email Brine.
You do understand this is an internet forum. Emailing Brine will get you no where.
Why are you all venting here? Email Brine.
You do understand this is an internet forum. Emailing Brine will get you no where.
You are getting so much traction here disparaging the whole the process. And if you were able to articulate a thought and gave courteous and respectful feedback, Brine would certainly be receptive. That would be a whole lot more effective than this nonsense.
Internet forum: discussion board on the Internet. That is what this site. To discuss our opinions. A good debate I will never run from. Please tell me where I have not given a good articulate response or theory that is so outlandish it has no possibility of being true. There are quite a few who feel the same way I do that they have filled the pages of this forum with their opinions of the faulted process. Here are some examples
1. Players who didn't
participate in first tryout (you know the freezing cold one where all the kids toughed it out in conditions lacrosse should not be played in) A tryout is a tryout you cant be there then you miss the opportunity. Its a life lesson.
2. Players who weren't invited to play in final game named alternates.
3. Having coaches who directly profit from advertising how many of their players make it to showcases be involved in the selection process.
Please enlighten me as to where I dont make sense. I apologize for not being a cunning linguist like you Shakespeare or are you Chaucer reincarnate.
Internet forum: discussion board on the Internet. That is what this site. To discuss our opinions. A good debate I will never run from. Please tell me where I have not given a good articulate response or theory that is so outlandish it has no possibility of being true. There are quite a few who feel the same way I do that they have filled the pages of this forum with their opinions of the faulted process. Here are some examples
1. Players who didn't
participate in first tryout (you know the freezing cold one where all the kids toughed it out in conditions lacrosse should not be played in) A tryout is a tryout you cant be there then you miss the opportunity. Its a life lesson.
2. Players who weren't invited to play in final game named alternates.
3. Having coaches who directly profit from advertising how many of their players make it to showcases be involved in the selection process.
Please enlighten me as to where I dont make sense. I apologize for not being a cunning linguist like yourself are you Shakespeare or Chaucer reincarnate.
Internet forum: discussion board on the Internet. That is what this site. To discuss our opinions. A good debate I will never run from. Please tell me where I have not given a good articulate response or theory that is so outlandish it has no possibility of being true. There are quite a few who feel the same way I do that they have filled the pages of this forum with their opinions of the faulted process. Here are some examples
1. Players who didn't
participate in first tryout (you know the freezing cold one where all the kids toughed it out in conditions lacrosse should not be played in) A tryout is a tryout you cant be there then you miss the opportunity. Its a life lesson.
2. Players who weren't invited to play in final game named alternates.
3. Having coaches who directly profit from advertising how many of their players make it to showcases be involved in the selection process.
Please enlighten me as to where I dont make sense. I apologize for not being a cunning linguist like you Shakespeare or are you Chaucer reincarnate.
And with that... Hopefully the next discussion we have about Brine will be in early July talking about which region won.
This debate officially closed.
The blame is fully on him and us for enrolling him in his proper/expected class year. So, I've asked my son to step up and work hard to move his birth date back one year, so he can be like all the other 2017s in the mix here ... err, I mean "2018s" (*wink*).
How many should be 2017's? I only know of 3 or 4.
So, if 3 or 4 of the ones you know should be 2017s, that begs the question ... just how many are hold-backs?!?
The best kids didn't show as the best that night which is the very point. Just because you are self proclaimed the" best kid", doesn't mean you get a free pass at every tryout. If that happens, shame on Brine and every other organization that doesn't let the "tryout" itself be the defining reason the kids are picked. I was there and some of the 23 kids picked DID NOT show well and should not have been picked.
Please all understand this entire debate, like all others on this board, is based upon how your child gets effected.
So if your kid was chosen to play, you want everyone to say, this was the best process and brine is the best event and the kids on the team are the best on LI.
If your kid wasn't chosen, you want everyone to say, the process was unfair and some kids that should have been chosen weren't.
then we have the people who are realistic, who don't give this entire subject much thought, but those people are likely not in the majority as it is human nature to protect and promote our own children.
the truth is somewhere in the middle. many of the right kids were chosen, many were not and of course there are politics in the process, just like every other aspect of life. You should all also remember, there are lots of kids that are very good that didn't try out for this team for whatever reason, lack of knowledge, time conflicts or value.
Brine is a nice thing to put on your lax resume but it is not a recruiting event, those events start in a few weeks. So, if your kid goes to JR and the colleges start calling, then you know your kid is the real deal. If those colleges don't call, tell your kid to work harder for next year as the college coaches aren't employed by 91, LIE, Crabs...So no one can claim their kid is best or their kid wasn't given fair shake---that is where the process gets fair...
Please all understand this entire debate, like all others on this board, is based upon how your child gets effected.
So if your kid was chosen to play, you want everyone to say, this was the best process and brine is the best event and the kids on the team are the best on LI.
If your kid wasn't chosen, you want everyone to say, the process was unfair and some kids that should have been chosen weren't.
then we have the people who are realistic, who don't give this entire subject much thought, but those people are likely not in the majority as it is human nature to protect and promote our own children.
the truth is somewhere in the middle. many of the right kids were chosen, many were not and of course there are politics in the process, just like every other aspect of life. You should all also remember, there are lots of kids that are very good that didn't try out for this team for whatever reason, lack of knowledge, time conflicts or value.
Brine is a nice thing to put on your lax resume but it is not a recruiting event, those events start in a few weeks. So, if your kid goes to JR and the colleges start calling, then you know your kid is the real deal. If those colleges don't call, tell your kid to work harder for next year as the college coaches aren't employed by 91, LIE, Crabs...So no one can claim their kid is best or their kid wasn't given fair shake---that is where the process gets fair...
100% accurate post! It's why none of this debate means anything. Once you get the politics out of the way, the true best kids (brine players or non) will be chosen by the coaches. The coaches will choose those player who's skills best fit their program. Look, as a coach told me with my older son, "there are about 60 top recruits every year (nationally) that every D1 program wants hands down." The rest of the kids are choices that make the best sense for the individual program needs.
This 2018 class is very talented. You have the top 3 A teams and everyone knows who they are, then you have about 4 or 5 other teams that could battle it out for the 4th spot on any given day. Those 4 or 5 teams top 6 or 7 kids can easily run with the talent on the top 3 A teams. Point is, that makes for a very large pool of talent at the top end of this class. In my humble opinion, you will see many D1 recruits from this pool over the next 12-36 months. You will also see plenty of these kids going to great D3 schools as well.
I think the moral of the story here is, RELAX... There will be plenty of opportunity to play NCAA Lacrosse for the above mentioned group. Good luck to all, try and enjoy the journey, you'll blink one day and all of a sudden these kids will be looking for jobs in the real world..... All of this will be a blur.
Sour grapes not!!! If the team was picked back in November, than why have try outs and rip people off money!!! Oh and by the way, "connections" count when traveling teams are selected. And if anybody questions this, they are just down right stupid!!! Apparently, you have a kid on the team! Parents feel the need to do whatever they have to, to get one up for their kid. Unfortunately, in the college world it doesn't matter what parents have to offer, what matters are players grades and ability to play. Remember, college coaches aren't volunteers (or paid coaches for the summer), it is their career! They want the "real" thing. So for those coaches who think getting one up for their kid is going to help with college, get over it!!! In the long run, the cream always rises to the top!
The problem is...money is involve!!!
that last post was the most sound thing I've seen on these boards in years.
Who were coaches doing the evals?
Sour grapes not!!! If the team was picked back in November, than why have try outs and rip people off money!!! Oh and by the way, "connections" count when traveling teams are selected. And if anybody questions this, they are just down right stupid!!! Apparently, you have a kid on the team! Parents feel the need to do whatever they have to, to get one up for their kid. Unfortunately, in the college world it doesn't matter what parents have to offer, what matters are players grades and ability to play. Remember, college coaches aren't volunteers (or paid coaches for the summer), it is their career! They want the "real" thing. So for those coaches who think getting one up for their kid is going to help with college, get over it!!! In the long run, the cream always rises to the top!
Maryland, Rochester, D.C. and Virginia all still have their tryouts upcoming. Just go to one of those regions if it is that important. Brine will probably let go in for free. That's what they said when we left the tryout "if you don't make it, your welcome to attend another region for free". The team doesn't meet up before the academy and lord knows you have traveled further for youth lax for less.
Sour grapes not!!! If the team was picked back in November, than why have try outs and rip people off money!!! Oh and by the way, "connections" count when traveling teams are selected. And if anybody questions this, they are just down right stupid!!! Apparently, you have a kid on the team! Parents feel the need to do whatever they have to, to get one up for their kid. Unfortunately, in the college world it doesn't matter what parents have to offer, what matters are players grades and ability to play. Remember, college coaches aren't volunteers (or paid coaches for the summer), it is their career! They want the "real" thing. So for those coaches who think getting one up for their kid is going to help with college, get over it!!! In the long run, the cream always rises to the top!
Maryland, Rochester, D.C. and Virginia all still have their tryouts upcoming. Just go to one of those regions if it is that important. Brine will probably let go in for free. That's what they said when we left the tryout "if you don't make it, your welcome to attend another region for free". The team doesn't meet up before the academy and lord knows you have traveled further for youth lax for less.
I suggest Maryland. They weren't that good last year. Despite Brine being in their backyard, I think most families opt out or go to Jake Reed instead.
can't opt for JR, need to either try out and get invited or get invited outright (direct invites with no tryout not avail for this year 2018 class).
Philly Freshman Showcase, November 22, 2014. Taking Nominations.
Sour grapes not!!! If the team was picked back in November, than why have try outs and rip people off money!!! Oh and by the way, "connections" count when traveling teams are selected. And if anybody questions this, they are just down right stupid!!! Apparently, you have a kid on the team! Parents feel the need to do whatever they have to, to get one up for their kid. Unfortunately, in the college world it doesn't matter what parents have to offer, what matters are players grades and ability to play. Remember, college coaches aren't volunteers (or paid coaches for the summer), it is their career! They want the "real" thing. So for those coaches who think getting one up for their kid is going to help with college, get over it!!! In the long run, the cream always rises to the top!
Maryland, Rochester, D.C. and Virginia all still have their tryouts upcoming. Just go to one of those regions if it is that important. Brine will probably let go in for free. That's what they said when we left the tryout "if you don't make it, your welcome to attend another region for free". The team doesn't meet up before the academy and lord knows you have traveled further for youth lax for less.
I suggest Maryland. They weren't that good last year. Despite Brine being in their backyard, I think most families opt out or go to Jake Reed instead.
Speaking with other families and as a parent whose child is attending JR and Brine, most are not opting out of either but attending both if they have been invited and/or selected.
Already says registration full for Philly freshman showcase...Really is non-sense that our teams (both A level travel and competitive HS) don't tell people about this stuff
Speaking with other families and as a parent whose child is attending JR and Brine, most are not opting out of either but attending both if they have been invited and/or selected.
The original suggest was for boys who missed the Brine cut to go to the Maryland tryout for Brine. Many of the top Maryland/DC players did NOT go to Brine last year and if you look at this year's list many of the tops are not going. On LI different story parents send their kids to EVERYTHING!
Already says registration full for Philly freshman showcase...Really is non-sense that our teams (both A level travel and competitive HS) don't tell people about this stuff
Highly unlikely since you need a recommendation from your High School or Club team coach.
As a parent of a 2019 player still 12 for another 2 months, (not going to reclassify), mid 90's student taking Math regents this year.
What should I be preparing for if my son wants to play more competitively. I let him know playing in college is a long shot and a lot of work. He tells me okay, but till then I want to play to be the best.
He is on a top team and a vital part. A few weeks ago the coaches told us to keep an eye out for what the 2018 boys are doing this year. We should be doing the same next year. Seeing my nervousness, he assured me they will let us know what to do. It doesn't only help the player but yes the organization.
As that is all good, Help! Id like to know what and when to expect things. Do I do as much as I can or be selective. My son has been invited to do many different things and have kicked ourselves for not doing them because people said they were money grabs.
My wife asked me the other day what do we need to be prepared for and are we ready. I said I was not sure. Knowing quite well I am not ready. Kind of like when we first had him. Was happy to become a dad but sacred as all [lacrosse]; 2001 was definitely a scary year to remember.
Any help with what happens, when and where, and how do I need to look out for it. I understand this is a blog site and with the good comes the bad and the opinions. I will whittle through the noise. Thanks
As a parent of a 2019 player still 12 for another 2 months, (not going to reclassify), mid 90's student taking Math regents this year.
What should I be preparing for if my son wants to play more competitively. I let him know playing in college is a long shot and a lot of work. He tells me okay, but till then I want to play to be the best.
He is on a top team and a vital part. A few weeks ago the coaches told us to keep an eye out for what the 2018 boys are doing this year. We should be doing the same next year. Seeing my nervousness, he assured me they will let us know what to do. It doesn't only help the player but yes the organization.
As that is all good, Help! Id like to know what and when to expect things. Do I do as much as I can or be selective. My son has been invited to do many different things and have kicked ourselves for not doing them because people said they were money grabs.
My wife asked me the other day what do we need to be prepared for and are we ready. I said I was not sure. Knowing quite well I am not ready. Kind of like when we first had him. Was happy to become a dad but sacred as all [lacrosse]; 2001 was definitely a scary year to remember.
Any help with what happens, when and where, and how do I need to look out for it. I understand this is a blog site and with the good comes the bad and the opinions. I will whittle through the noise. Thanks
1. ignore the 2018 thread
2. have him play on one of the top 2019 teams
3. next fall, usually end of nov, beginning dec, tryout for Brine
4. next winter, around Jan/Feb attend the 3d Jake Reed tryouts
.. if he makes both 3 and 4, that is a great start.
5. Nat175
6. there are several other options, it depends on how much time, effort and monies you are willing to throw away for the various events.
As a parent of a 2019 player still 12 for another 2 months, (not going to reclassify), mid 90's student taking Math regents this year.
What should I be preparing for if my son wants to play more competitively. I let him know playing in college is a long shot and a lot of work. He tells me okay, but till then I want to play to be the best.
He is on a top team and a vital part. A few weeks ago the coaches told us to keep an eye out for what the 2018 boys are doing this year. We should be doing the same next year. Seeing my nervousness, he assured me they will let us know what to do. It doesn't only help the player but yes the organization.
As that is all good, Help! Id like to know what and when to expect things. Do I do as much as I can or be selective. My son has been invited to do many different things and have kicked ourselves for not doing them because people said they were money grabs.
My wife asked me the other day what do we need to be prepared for and are we ready. I said I was not sure. Knowing quite well I am not ready. Kind of like when we first had him. Was happy to become a dad but sacred as all [lacrosse]; 2001 was definitely a scary year to remember.
Any help with what happens, when and where, and how do I need to look out for it. I understand this is a blog site and with the good comes the bad and the opinions. I will whittle through the noise. Thanks
1. ignore the 2018 thread
2. have him play on one of the top 2019 teams
3. next fall, usually end of nov, beginning dec, tryout for Brine
4. next winter, around Jan/Feb attend the 3d Jake Reed tryouts
.. if he makes both 3 and 4, that is a great start.
5. Nat175
6. there are several other options, it depends on how much time, effort and monies you are willing to throw away for the various events.
Thanks!
As a parent of a 2019 player still 12 for another 2 months, (not going to reclassify), mid 90's student taking Math regents this year.
What should I be preparing for if my son wants to play more competitively. I let him know playing in college is a long shot and a lot of work. He tells me okay, but till then I want to play to be the best.
He is on a top team and a vital part. A few weeks ago the coaches told us to keep an eye out for what the 2018 boys are doing this year. We should be doing the same next year. Seeing my nervousness, he assured me they will let us know what to do. It doesn't only help the player but yes the organization.
As that is all good, Help! Id like to know what and when to expect things. Do I do as much as I can or be selective. My son has been invited to do many different things and have kicked ourselves for not doing them because people said they were money grabs.
My wife asked me the other day what do we need to be prepared for and are we ready. I said I was not sure. Knowing quite well I am not ready. Kind of like when we first had him. Was happy to become a dad but sacred as all [lacrosse]; 2001 was definitely a scary year to remember.
Any help with what happens, when and where, and how do I need to look out for it. I understand this is a blog site and with the good comes the bad and the opinions. I will whittle through the noise. Thanks
1. ignore the 2018 thread
2. have him play on one of the top 2019 teams
3. next fall, usually end of nov, beginning dec, tryout for Brine
4. next winter, around Jan/Feb attend the 3d Jake Reed tryouts
.. if he makes both 3 and 4, that is a great start.
5. Nat175
6. there are several other options, it depends on how much time, effort and monies you are willing to throw away for the various events.
Building on the above:
- freshman year grades are critical - make sure he understands this and you as parents stay on him and get him any help necessary
- get him into the Philly Freshman Showcase for Fall of freshman year - most important Fall showcase by a wide margin with the most/highest quality coaches watching
- get him into Maverick Showtime for summer after freshman year (best summer showcase by far, has surpassed Jake Reed in importance)
- get better at lacrosse by himself, get bigger, stronger, faster
[quote=Anonymous]As a parent of a 2019 player still 12 for another 2 months, (not going to reclassify), mid 90's student taking Math regents this year.
What should I be preparing for if my son wants to play more competitively. I let him know playing in college is a long shot and a lot of work. He tells me okay, but till then I want to play to be the best.
He is on a top team and a vital part. A few weeks ago the coaches told us to keep an eye out for what the 2018 boys are doing this year. We should be doing the same next year. Seeing my nervousness, he assured me they will let us know what to do. It doesn't only help the player but yes the organization.
As that is all good, Help! Id like to know what and when to expect things. Do I do as much as I can or be selective. My son has been invited to do many different things and have kicked ourselves for not doing them because people said they were money grabs.
My wife asked me the other day what do we need to be prepared for and are we ready. I said I was not sure. Knowing quite well I am not ready. Kind of like when we first had him. Was happy to become a dad but sacred as all [lacrosse]; 2001 was definitely a scary year to remember.
Any help with what happens, when and where, and how do I need to look out for it. I understand this is a blog site and with the good comes the bad and the opinions. I will whittle through the noise. Thanks
1. ignore the 2018 thread
2. have him play on one of the top 2019 teams
3. next fall, usually end of nov, beginning dec, tryout for Brine
4. next winter, around Jan/Feb attend the 3d Jake Reed tryouts
.. if he makes both 3 and 4, that is a great start.
5. Nat175
6. there are several other options, it depends on how much time, effort and monies you are willing to throw away for the various events.
info was dead on only think to add is limit TV, XBOX and phone and get him good study habits and ready for SAT/ACT's - I can not tell you how many boys have had their dreams crushed because of grades and SAT's not lacrosse ability
As a parent of a 2019 player still 12 for another 2 months, (not going to reclassify), mid 90's student taking Math regents this year.
What should I be preparing for if my son wants to play more competitively. I let him know playing in college is a long shot and a lot of work. He tells me okay, but till then I want to play to be the best.
He is on a top team and a vital part. A few weeks ago the coaches told us to keep an eye out for what the 2018 boys are doing this year. We should be doing the same next year. Seeing my nervousness, he assured me they will let us know what to do. It doesn't only help the player but yes the organization.
As that is all good, Help! Id like to know what and when to expect things. Do I do as much as I can or be selective. My son has been invited to do many different things and have kicked ourselves for not doing them because people said they were money grabs.
My wife asked me the other day what do we need to be prepared for and are we ready. I said I was not sure. Knowing quite well I am not ready. Kind of like when we first had him. Was happy to become a dad but sacred as all [lacrosse]; 2001 was definitely a scary year to remember.
Any help with what happens, when and where, and how do I need to look out for it. I understand this is a blog site and with the good comes the bad and the opinions. I will whittle through the noise. Thanks
1. ignore the 2018 thread
2. have him play on one of the top 2019 teams
3. next fall, usually end of nov, beginning dec, tryout for Brine
4. next winter, around Jan/Feb attend the 3d Jake Reed tryouts
.. if he makes both 3 and 4, that is a great start.
5. Nat175
6. there are several other options, it depends on how much time, effort and monies you are willing to throw away for the various events.
Sign ups for 3d Blue Chip is usually mid summer. Get yourself a 3 minute video of the kid to upload for the application. If he does well at Blue Chip....he gets the invite to Jake Reed.
As a parent of a 2019 player still 12 for another 2 months, (not going to reclassify), mid 90's student taking Math regents this year.
What should I be preparing for if my son wants to play more competitively. I let him know playing in college is a long shot and a lot of work. He tells me okay, but till then I want to play to be the best.
He is on a top team and a vital part. A few weeks ago the coaches told us to keep an eye out for what the 2018 boys are doing this year. We should be doing the same next year. Seeing my nervousness, he assured me they will let us know what to do. It doesn't only help the player but yes the organization.
As that is all good, Help! Id like to know what and when to expect things. Do I do as much as I can or be selective. My son has been invited to do many different things and have kicked ourselves for not doing them because people said they were money grabs.
My wife asked me the other day what do we need to be prepared for and are we ready. I said I was not sure. Knowing quite well I am not ready. Kind of like when we first had him. Was happy to become a dad but sacred as all [lacrosse]; 2001 was definitely a scary year to remember.
Any help with what happens, when and where, and how do I need to look out for it. I understand this is a blog site and with the good comes the bad and the opinions. I will whittle through the noise. Thanks
1. ignore the 2018 thread
2. have him play on one of the top 2019 teams
3. next fall, usually end of nov, beginning dec, tryout for Brine
4. next winter, around Jan/Feb attend the 3d Jake Reed tryouts
.. if he makes both 3 and 4, that is a great start.
5. Nat175
6. there are several other options, it depends on how much time, effort and monies you are willing to throw away for the various events.
Sign ups for 3d Blue Chip is usually mid summer. Get yourself a 3 minute video of the kid to upload for the application. If he does well at Blue Chip....he gets the invite to Jake Reed.
don't need video for this, you just need to get your club coach to submit names, you should also go online and sign him up on the 3d website.
Speaking with other families and as a parent whose child is attending JR and Brine, most are not opting out of either but attending both if they have been invited and/or selected.
The original suggest was for boys who missed the Brine cut to go to the Maryland tryout for Brine. Many of the top Maryland/DC players did NOT go to Brine last year and if you look at this year's list many of the tops are not going. On LI different story parents send their kids to EVERYTHING!
Right, so those who truly just want to attend the Brine and that's why they were upset, can go the next two weekends to another region. I heard mixed things about Brine, but heard directly from people I know that it is worth it and that the experience is unbelievable.
Is he taking the Integrated Algebra Regents as a 7th grader?
Enjoyed reading positive advice on the blog. I thought the advice was 'spot on'.
As a parent of a 2019 player still 12 for another 2 months, (not going to reclassify), mid 90's student taking Math regents this year.
What should I be preparing for if my son wants to play more competitively. I let him know playing in college is a long shot and a lot of work. He tells me okay, but till then I want to play to be the best.
He is on a top team and a vital part. A few weeks ago the coaches told us to keep an eye out for what the 2018 boys are doing this year. We should be doing the same next year. Seeing my nervousness, he assured me they will let us know what to do. It doesn't only help the player but yes the organization.
As that is all good, Help! Id like to know what and when to expect things. Do I do as much as I can or be selective. My son has been invited to do many different things and have kicked ourselves for not doing them because people said they were money grabs.
My wife asked me the other day what do we need to be prepared for and are we ready. I said I was not sure. Knowing quite well I am not ready. Kind of like when we first had him. Was happy to become a dad but sacred as all [lacrosse]; 2001 was definitely a scary year to remember.
Any help with what happens, when and where, and how do I need to look out for it. I understand this is a blog site and with the good comes the bad and the opinions. I will whittle through the noise. Thanks
1. ignore the 2018 thread
2. have him play on one of the top 2019 teams
3. next fall, usually end of nov, beginning dec, tryout for Brine
4. next winter, around Jan/Feb attend the 3d Jake Reed tryouts
.. if he makes both 3 and 4, that is a great start.
5. Nat175
6. there are several other options, it depends on how much time, effort and monies you are willing to throw away for the various events.
Sign ups for 3d Blue Chip is usually mid summer. Get yourself a 3 minute video of the kid to upload for the application. If he does well at Blue Chip....he gets the invite to Jake Reed.
don't need video for this, you just need to get your club coach to submit names, you should also go online and sign him up on the 3d website.
Thank you, after seeing the note I went onto 3d and signed up.
Is he taking the Integrated Algebra Regents as a 7th grader?
Yes, along with PS/ES regents. Mix emotions if we are doing the right thing by accelerating his studies, but as they say there is no book in raising a child.
I'll give you one better:
FIVE (5)Attackman picked for the Long Island Team; why not 6? I'll tell you why not; BAM BAM from 91-Xtreme who didn't show for the second tryout will be awarded that spot which is complete BS. I'm telling you, if that kids gets that 6 attack spot, I'm personally starting a campaign to boycott BRINE.
I'll give you one better:
FIVE (5)Attackman picked for the Long Island Team; why not 6? I'll tell you why not; BAM BAM from 91-Xtreme who didn't show for the second tryout will be awarded that spot which is complete BS. I'm telling you, if that kids gets that 6 attack spot, I'm personally starting a campaign to boycott BRINE.
Boycott? From what? You're obviously not busy that week. You can invite the in-laws over for BBQ for the 4th.
He's heading for Ivy League lacrosse, he's already 2 years ahead of the regular kids.
2019 kids can sign up for that 3d rising in Florida?
Is he taking the Integrated Algebra Regents as a 7th grader?
Yes, along with PS/ES regents. Mix emotions if we are doing the right thing by accelerating his studies, but as they say there is no book in raising a child.
Sounds like you have a really smart boy on your hands. Will he graduate early? Good for him for being so mature in handling his studies.
Whats up with two teams for Long Island Brine- a new [lacrosse] team and a Long island team on the brine website?????
Ohhhhhh I'll be busy that week. With ur wife.
Ohhhhhh I'll be busy that week. With ur wife.
w0w... nice.. Are you for real?
Ohhhhhh I'll be busy that week. With ur wife.
w0w... nice.. Are you for real?
Busy, she'll be at the Brine watching her son that week...
Is he taking the Integrated Algebra Regents as a 7th grader?
Yes, along with PS/ES regents. Mix emotions if we are doing the right thing by accelerating his studies, but as they say there is no book in raising a child.
Sounds like you have a really smart boy on your hands. Will he graduate early? Good for him for being so mature in handling his studies.
There are a few years between then and now but an early graduation is unlikely. The goal is to get a great foundation of course work before college so he is a leg up in the first years of college. The district is affiliated with a few colleges which allow the students to enhance the HS experience without the early graduation aspect.
He enjoys lacrosse and at this point, has grandiose dreams about playing in college. At what point do schools ask about the student/athletes grades and do they ask about the coursework? Are these questions asked at the showcase events as early as next year.
Thank you for the notes. Please keep them coming. I hope your sons have a great summer before High School. Go LI!!!!
Whats up with two teams for Long Island Brine- a new [lacrosse] team and a Long island team on the brine website?????
used to be more than that, in past, 2 LI team, 1 NY team and 1 Rochester team. it varies every year based on how far they want to expand beyond the east coast.
Whats up with two teams for Long Island Brine- a new [lacrosse] team and a Long island team on the brine website?????
that is a bit strange, they are all from LI. but the breakdown is a bit strange, 8 attack, 7 middies, 6 defense, and 2 goalies, definitely several on this list should not have even been selected. looks like they took the remaining 91, express and fl$ and made them a second team.
OK, you wonder why Brine gets a bad wrap. when they say one thing and then do another that's where they earn the bad wrap. How many times did Joel say there was going to be one team and now BAM! two teams. And even better, no letter or note on the website, just a stealth covert posting of the second team.
OK, you wonder why Brine gets a bad wrap. when they say one thing and then do another that's where they earn the bad wrap. How many times did Joel say there was going to be one team and now BAM! two teams. And even better, no letter or note on the website, just a stealth covert posting of the second team.
I believe he had told the boys that there was a possibility of making 2 teams, they had to figure out what needed to be done without having to add more overall teams. they must have decided to take what was the New [lacrosse] region and make a second LI team. I see nothing wrong with that.
Can anyone find the cost of this little adventure?
Doesn't state it anywhere on the letter.
Seems like you don't find out until you pay the $199 "acceptance fee" and then they will tell you total cost.
Anyone have the answer?????
Can anyone find the cost of this little adventure?
Doesn't state it anywhere on the letter.
Seems like you don't find out until you pay the $199 "acceptance fee" and then they will tell you total cost.
Anyone have the answer?????
The $199 is the final cost - you have already paid for two tryouts
OK, you wonder why Brine gets a bad wrap. when they say one thing and then do another that's where they earn the bad wrap. How many times did Joel say there was going to be one team and now BAM! two teams. And even better, no letter or note on the website, just a stealth covert posting of the second team.
I believe he had told the boys that there was a possibility of making 2 teams, they had to figure out what needed to be done without having to add more overall teams. they must have decided to take what was the New [lacrosse] region and make a second LI team. I see nothing wrong with that.
The only thing that is wrong with the second team from long island is that again they put kids who were not selected to final game at the last tryout. All the kids are talented but why not put the kids who were selected to final game as second team. The parents should be thrilled their kids were picked but the parents who's kids were selected to play in final game and not selected should be pissed.
When is the tryout for Long Island 2019?
WOW, she will be busy; first with me and then off to Brine. Busy gal
Can anyone find the cost of this little adventure?
Doesn't state it anywhere on the letter.
Seems like you don't find out until you pay the $199 "acceptance fee" and then they will tell you total cost.
Anyone have the answer?????
The $199 is the final cost - you have already paid for two tryouts
Plus the hotel. Which you must book through them. It is in the email.
When is the tryout for Long Island 2019?
Brine is usually late nonember early december, 3d JR tryouts late january.
Li express terps played team li and jesters today. Team li big and strong-many good players final terps 13 8. Played jesters right after-11-5 . Jesters took early lead but never really kicked in. Team hustled but not quite there yet, getting closer. good games by all.
Li express terps played team li and jesters today. Team li big and strong-many good players final terps 13 8. Played jesters right after-11-5 . Jesters took early lead but never really kicked in. Team hustled but not quite there yet, getting closer. good games by all.
I believe score was 9-5 against Jesters. Was a good game. Express a stronger team overall. They just had more depth. Would like to see Jesters/Team LI game.
I was going to respond and ask why you would call the Jesters -the Jerkers, but your paragraphs in the quick quote had the team spelled correctly. Must be some sort of glitch.
Are the Jerkers the Jesters? What was score vs Team LI.
Are the Jerkers the Jesters? What was score vs Team LI.
JESTERS
No disrespect intended, no clue how I typed that wrong...jesters
Are the Jerkers the Jesters? What was score vs Team LI.
JESTERS
Yeah it does. Because when you respond it reads properly and posts with j...... cage can take a look.
Are the Jerkers the Jesters? What was score vs Team LI.
JESTERS
Jesters did no play Team LI
Jesters, it is a simple name to spell.
Urban Dictionary -
Jerker
A$$****; People who do things to annoy you on purpose
I am not sure who made the original post or if this was their intention but I would say mission accomplished
Urban Dictionary -
Jerker
A$$****; People who do things to annoy you on purpose
I am not sure who made the original post or if this was their intention but I would say mission accomplished
No that's a jerk off.
I am typing Jesters not Jerkers
Cage, hit the quote button on the 750pm post from last night. You'll see the poster typed the proper club name in and it went to the board differently.
Cage, hit the quote button on the 750pm post from last night. You'll see the poster typed the proper club name in and it went to the board differently.
Quote will do exactly that...Quote.
Cage, hit the quote button on the 750pm post from last night. You'll see the poster typed the proper club name in and it went to the board differently.
Quote will do exactly that...Quote.
Larry - I tried it as well and when I quoted the post from #60783 - Yesterday at 07:50 PM it definitely said Jesters on my screen - very strange
Cage, hit the quote button on the 750pm post from last night. You'll see the poster typed the proper club name in and it went to the board differently.
Quote will do exactly that...Quote.
Larry - I tried it as well and when I quoted the post from #60783 - Yesterday at 07:50 PM it definitely said Jesters on my screen - very strange
Correct..says Jesters on my screen also...so?
Cage, hit the quote button on the 750pm post from last night. You'll see the poster typed the proper club name in and it went to the board differently.
Quote will do exactly that...Quote.
Larry - I tried it as well and when I quoted the post from #60783 - Yesterday at 07:50 PM it definitely said Jesters on my screen - very strange
Correct..says Jesters on my screen also...so?
I was toying around with this yesterday too and on another board, I type "jesters" and it posted as "jerkers", must have been some glitch.
No,it can't be. He must be right and you are all crazy and can't work your computers!!
Brine listed the kids who registered for the event.
http://www.nationallacrosseclassic.com/ms-registered-players/Check it out.
so... what are we checking
Wow. A list of names. That's great!!
So all those players had 75 dollars??
so... what are we checking
I just checked to make sure my kid didn't make it...and I was right,,,he didn't.
.. WOW!
and they also list names of players who
attended previous years.
http://www.nationallacrosseclassic.com/2013-academy-boys/
NCAA Eligibility Center ??? Anyone register?
Interesting list in that it includes many mediocre players whose parents have the disposable income to pour down the drain of vicarious lacrosse dreams.
Of course there are the few standouts who don't need this list.
Interesting list in that it includes many mediocre players whose parents have the disposable income to pour down the drain of vicarious lacrosse dreams.
Of course there are the few standouts who don't need this list.
That is such a mean thing to say. Regardless if it is true or not in your opinion.
Interesting list in that it includes many mediocre players whose parents have the disposable income to pour down the drain of vicarious lacrosse dreams.
Of course there are the few standouts who don't need this list.
excellent ! my kids on the list and I do not have disposable income - thanks for the props
Interesting list in that it includes many mediocre players whose parents have the disposable income to pour down the drain of vicarious lacrosse dreams.
Of course there are the few standouts who don't need this list.
Mediocre players? Really? You might just want to take a bite of some humble pie. I will say, many of those picked are definitely top players in this grade. However, there's much that will happen between now and when these boys commit to schools. For the poster above, your political connections will not get you a slot on a D1 team, like it got your son on Brine. It's interesting how some of those mediocre kids who might not be on 91 or Express seem to do really well in their individual match ups when they play one another. Your superstars can't seem to get by some the mediocre defensemen, or score on the mediocre goalie that didn't get picked for Brine. Some of those defensemen who got picked also can't seem to ever stop certain mediocre attacks... Be careful, this Brine event is not indicative of who will get recruited and who won't. If I were you I'd make sure son only plays with his team if he's looking to get recruited. If he has to play in an individual showcase, he might just be EXPOSED....
Interesting list in that it includes many mediocre players whose parents have the disposable income to pour down the drain of vicarious lacrosse dreams.
Of course there are the few standouts who don't need this list.
Mediocre players? Really? You might just want to take a bite of some humble pie. I will say, many of those picked are definitely top players in this grade. However, there's much that will happen between now and when these boys commit to schools. For the poster above, your political connections will not get you a slot on a D1 team, like it got your son on Brine. It's interesting how some of those mediocre kids who might not be on 91 or Express seem to do really well in their individual match ups when they play one another. Your superstars can't seem to get by some the mediocre defensemen, or score on the mediocre goalie that didn't get picked for Brine. Some of those defensemen who got picked also can't seem to ever stop certain mediocre attacks... Be careful, this Brine event is not indicative of who will get recruited and who won't. If I were you I'd make sure son only plays with his team if he's looking to get recruited. If he has to play in an individual showcase, he might just be EXPOSED....
Best part is a second team was picked and its loaded with players who were sent walking after the Pride of Long Island final two teams were picked. How many of these players added to the New [lacrosse] Team were 91 affiliated players? The flaws of these so called great players will be exposed more and more. When not surrounded by their great team as the above poster states. Favors, last names and team affiliations can only get you so far. Eventually the players are going to have to perform.
Interesting list in that it includes many mediocre players whose parents have the disposable income to pour down the drain of vicarious lacrosse dreams.
Of course there are the few standouts who don't need this list.
Mediocre players? Really? You might just want to take a bite of some humble pie. I will say, many of those picked are definitely top players in this grade. However, there's much that will happen between now and when these boys commit to schools. For the poster above, your political connections will not get you a slot on a D1 team, like it got your son on Brine. It's interesting how some of those mediocre kids who might not be on 91 or Express seem to do really well in their individual match ups when they play one another. Your superstars can't seem to get by some the mediocre defensemen, or score on the mediocre goalie that didn't get picked for Brine. Some of those defensemen who got picked also can't seem to ever stop certain mediocre attacks... Be careful, this Brine event is not indicative of who will get recruited and who won't. If I were you I'd make sure son only plays with his team if he's looking to get recruited. If he has to play in an individual showcase, he might just be EXPOSED....
to quote Adrian Cronauer "You are in more dire need of a &*%# )@& than any white man in history." you just got EXPOSED
Interesting list in that it includes many mediocre players whose parents have the disposable income to pour down the drain of vicarious lacrosse dreams.
Of course there are the few standouts who don't need this list.
Mediocre players? Really? You might just want to take a bite of some humble pie. I will say, many of those picked are definitely top players in this grade. However, there's much that will happen between now and when these boys commit to schools. For the poster above, your political connections will not get you a slot on a D1 team, like it got your son on Brine. It's interesting how some of those mediocre kids who might not be on 91 or Express seem to do really well in their individual match ups when they play one another. Your superstars can't seem to get by some the mediocre defensemen, or score on the mediocre goalie that didn't get picked for Brine. Some of those defensemen who got picked also can't seem to ever stop certain mediocre attacks... Be careful, this Brine event is not indicative of who will get recruited and who won't. If I were you I'd make sure son only plays with his team if he's looking to get recruited. If he has to play in an individual showcase, he might just be EXPOSED....
to quote Adrian Cronauer "You are in more dire need of a &*%# )@& than any white man in history." you just got EXPOSED
Ah Doy..............
God help your son!
I think it's sort of crazy that Duke University would allow its employee (Caputo) to run or be associated with a event that is so obviously tainted and unfair in the way it was run and ultimately what players made and did not make the team.
Kids who DID NOT make the showcase game are on the New [lacrosse] team and kids who DID NOT show up for the first tryout be allowed to tryout for the second tryout after some kids were cut and make the New [lacrosse] Team AND for a attack kid to be awarded a spot on the Long Island team even though he never showed up for the 2nd tryout.
Duke University should be made aware of how one of its employee's is so poorly representing such a fine University.
My kid did not even tryout and I'm so glad he didn't.
I spoke to Duke University yesterday about this matter and they said that while they were very concerned about the entire process of how the 8th grade team from Long Island was selected that they are in fact just a university made up of buildings and have no ability to communicate and besides they just won the national championship so tell your friends at BOTC that we have other things to worry about.
I thought that was kind of rude, myself but I wanted to let you know
I spoke to Duke University yesterday about this matter and they said that while they were very concerned about the entire process of how the 8th grade team from Long Island was selected that they are in fact just a university made up of buildings and have no ability to communicate and besides they just won the national championship so tell your friends at BOTC that we have other things to worry about.
I thought that was kind of rude, myself but I wanted to let you know
Best. Post. Ever.
Same thing happened last year, and will happen again next year.The real men of world with ethics are long gone. In lacrosse 80% of guys coach to make sure his kid stays on the field.At attack of course.lol
What the heck is a Brine team? What does it mean? Are those kids all playing lacrosse at Division 1? I have seen my son play very well against some of these attack man during their games so he must be a USA player then..LOL.
I think it's sort of crazy that Duke University would allow its employee (Caputo) to run or be associated with a event that is so obviously tainted and unfair in the way it was run and ultimately what players made and did not make the team.
Kids who DID NOT make the showcase game are on the New [lacrosse] team and kids who DID NOT show up for the first tryout be allowed to tryout for the second tryout after some kids were cut and make the New [lacrosse] Team AND for a attack kid to be awarded a spot on the Long Island team even though he never showed up for the 2nd tryout.
Duke University should be made aware of how one of its employee's is so poorly representing such a fine University.
My kid did not even tryout and I'm so glad he didn't.
Breaking News!!!!! Caputo fired and Duke Lacrosse team stripped of National Title and suspended for 2015 year...all because some 2018 kid's daddy feels like his son should have made a team
Great that you called over; not so great that the university feels it not so necessary to control the behavior of one of it's employees. I'm sure that President Brodhead if explain the situation in full might take a little different attitude towards a public complaint since they had some serious troubles with their Lacrosse program years ago that put a nice black eye on the University as a whole. Sounds like Caputo's asst answered your call.
Maybe time to write a formal letter of concern to the President and cc Danowski.
You obviously miss the point. The university should be concerned that Caputo is ALWAYS representing the University and his actions are accountable.
Great that you called over; not so great that the university feels it not so necessary to control the behavior of one of it's employees. I'm sure that President Brodhead if explain the situation in full might take a little different attitude towards a public complaint since they had some serious troubles with their Lacrosse program years ago that put a nice black eye on the University as a whole. Sounds like Caputo's asst answered your call.
Maybe time to write a formal letter of concern to the President and cc Danowski.
To be clear - I did not call DUKE - this was meant to be a post pointing out how silly this discussion is and how silly you people are..... as far as Duke taking the allegations seriously, well, the real black eye Duke got out of the previous scandal was that they were criticized for acting to hastily by dismissing their coach and not having their players back until all the information was available and that was when there was a RAPE allegation. I would imagine they would take charges of an assistant coach minor involvement in the selection of an 8th grade team a little slower, maybe convene a group of alumni to look into the matter and interview all the people involved - players, parents - evaluators - and then get a full report as to the allegations and finally let the president of the Duke University stand up and proclaim......."NOBODY GIVES A $&)T ABOUT A COUPLE OF WHINING PARENTS ON LONG ISLAND)
just an opinion
You obviously miss the point. The university should be concerned that Caputo is ALWAYS representing the University and his actions are accountable.
Stop it. Your son got cut amongst the best competition on the Island. Move on. There is separation between probably the top 5-10. But 11- 60 is on parity. There are kids that made it to Blue Chip that didn't get to pride games. Stop crying that your son got a raw deal.
Lots of really good strong kids--i know 5--did not even try out....for those that made it congrats, for those that didn't , don't worry , it really means very little.
Blue Chip is pretty flawed too. The supposedly blind Florida 3d event seemed very biased based on who you knew and how you got into the event. Coaches knew certain players well in advance of 3d and didn't even bother to get to know others.
Making Blue Chip should be no guarantee for making Brine.
The Electoral College is a flawed system to elect the President of the United States and it gets talked about less then the 2018 Brine Nationals Long Island Team
My kid made blue chip and didn't bother with brine as we saw all the trouble last year.
That being said, we have all been to lots of tournaments and have seen the best players over and over. I think (my opinion only) that there are 4 or 5 really strong players on each of the AA teams (91, Terps, Crabs Team LI...) then the rest of the pack are almost interchangeable.
Do kids get a longer look if they show up with a 91 or Terp helmet? Of course they do, that is the way the real world operates. If Sal or Mike C tell someone about your kid does it help? Of course it does...
So if your kid is not one of the 5 or 6 top kids (for those kids it doesn't matter what helmet they are wearing) they will get an advantage over an equal kid with a bayshore helmet...
WOW! Really, if you just ignore the posts, they will stop!
Blue Chip is pretty flawed too. The supposedly blind Florida 3d event seemed very biased based on who you knew and how you got into the event. Coaches knew certain players well in advance of 3d and didn't even bother to get to know others.
Making Blue Chip should be no guarantee for making Brine.
2 complete different events, blue chip is to get into Jake Reed, is that also flawed. Long Island parents need to find flaws in everything, no matter what the situation, there is always going to be some who criticize how the organization/event is either run or managed. Instead of complaining about what should have been, get your kid into other programs, a lot out there and especially now since there are showcases designed for them to really shine.
Its posts like this that keep me coming back for more! "The Electoral College is a flawed system to elect the President of the United States and it gets talked about less then the 2018 Brine Nationals Long Island Team"
Its posts like this that keep me coming back for more! "The Electoral College is a flawed system to elect the President of the United States and it gets talked about less then the 2018 Brine Nationals Long Island Team"
Yeah, that's a classic!
Blue Chip is pretty flawed too. The supposedly blind Florida 3d event seemed very biased based on who you knew and how you got into the event. Coaches knew certain players well in advance of 3d and didn't even bother to get to know others.
Making Blue Chip should be no guarantee for making Brine.
2 complete different events, blue chip is to get into Jake Reed, is that also flawed. Long Island parents need to find flaws in everything, no matter what the situation, there is always going to be some who criticize how the organization/event is either run or managed. Instead of complaining about what should have been, get your kid into other programs, a lot out there and especially now since there are showcases designed for them to really shine.
Poster is right. There are so many venues out there for 2018's to get exposure. My son is turning invites down. One next weekend in upstate NY with nearly 30 D1 coaches committed to attend... That's probably more than will be at Jake Reed and Brine looking at 2018's combined. If your son is at that level, trust me the coaches will see his talent. If he's not, he will still have plenty of opportunity to play NCAA lacrosse at the D2 or D3 level. Settle down, this process is long and hard. Try to enjoy the time with your son, it's over in a blink...
Since when are all the top players on 91 and express and dune dogs.Just because they say so..If you took the top kids from other programs and combined them, they would beat up pretty good on those teams. It's funny looking at the list of brine players trying out this year. It seems a requirement to being on the express is to pay $75 and tryout. WHat a joke of a thing..the kids are going into 8th grade and probably most haven't hit puberty yet. Why not wait ill they are in at least 9th grade. I guess it's all about the money and not who the best kids are Again.
The Middle School Brine Tournament is meaningless. Some teams, like Maryland, don't even attract the better players. Are the tryouts political, sure they are...what tryouts aren't. The ones who don't derserve to make a team are exposed...really, who beat yourself up over this??? There are plenty of venues, all will get a shot to display their skills at some point.
As long as they look at their skills and not the helmets they have on. An honest tryout. Never happen. Easier to give a few bocks and get him on the team.
As long as they look at their skills and not the helmets they have on. An honest tryout. Never happen. Easier to give a few bocks and get him on the team.
We have a committed town team and for the tryouts the players are prohibited from wearing anything that identifies themselves as a member of a club team. It is still pretty political...but that is at least an attempt at making it appear fair. If they wanted these recruiting events to truly be as apolitical as possible that might be something to consider. Wearing a 91 helmet to a 91 tryout is one thing. But one can understand how wearing it to an "independent" tryout where some of the evaluators are say from 91 could be seen as an attempt to influence the outcome....and that just leaves people feeling like their kid got hosed.
I am not in that boat, but I get it.
Since when are all the top players on 91 and express and dune dogs.Just because they say so..If you took the top kids from other programs and combined them, they would beat up pretty good on those teams. It's funny looking at the list of brine players trying out this year. It seems a requirement to being on the express is to pay $75 and tryout. WHat a joke of a thing..the kids are going into 8th grade and probably most haven't hit puberty yet. Why not wait ill they are in at least 9th grade. I guess it's all about the money and not who the best kids are Again.
So many things wrong with this post I am not sure wear to start - 1, does Dune Dogs even have a 2018 team? if so I have never seen them play. 2, it was not long ago that express kids were told not to play in this tournament. 3, most people on this site have an issue with the 91 organizational involvement with these tryouts not express so why the $75 comment? 4, the kids are going into 9th grade not 8th grade and based on the size of many of these kids I would say more then a few have hit puberty.
As long as they look at their skills and not the helmets they have on. An honest tryout. Never happen. Easier to give a few bocks and get him on the team.
We have a committed town team and for the tryouts the players are prohibited from wearing anything that identifies themselves as a member of a club team. It is still pretty political...but that is at least an attempt at making it appear fair. If they wanted these recruiting events to truly be as apolitical as possible that might be something to consider. Wearing a 91 helmet to a 91 tryout is one thing. But one can understand how wearing it to an "independent" tryout where some of the evaluators are say from 91 could be seen as an attempt to influence the outcome....and that just leaves people feeling like their kid got hosed.
I am not in that boat, but I get it.
The idea of not allowing kids to wear club helmets was actually talked about the night of the tryout and I think that is a great idea but instead you would have people complaining about town helmets and the evaluators being biased for a town. I do know of two players that are on what many would consider a top travel team and they both wore their town helmets and not the club helmet and both made the team.
As long as they look at their skills and not the helmets they have on. An honest tryout. Never happen. Easier to give a few bocks and get him on the team.
We have a committed town team and for the tryouts the players are prohibited from wearing anything that identifies themselves as a member of a club team. It is still pretty political...but that is at least an attempt at making it appear fair. If they wanted these recruiting events to truly be as apolitical as possible that might be something to consider. Wearing a 91 helmet to a 91 tryout is one thing. But one can understand how wearing it to an "independent" tryout where some of the evaluators are say from 91 could be seen as an attempt to influence the outcome....and that just leaves people feeling like their kid got hosed.
I am not in that boat, but I get it.
The idea of not allowing kids to wear club helmets was actually talked about the night of the tryout and I think that is a great idea but instead you would have people complaining about town helmets and the evaluators being biased for a town. I do know of two players that are on what many would consider a top travel team and they both wore their town helmets and not the club helmet and both made the team.
I know... Have the organizer provide helmets,gloves,socks,shooting shirts just for tryouts.. Make them all black and white.
As long as they look at their skills and not the helmets they have on. An honest tryout. Never happen. Easier to give a few bocks and get him on the team.
We have a committed town team and for the tryouts the players are prohibited from wearing anything that identifies themselves as a member of a club team. It is still pretty political...but that is at least an attempt at making it appear fair. If they wanted these recruiting events to truly be as apolitical as possible that might be something to consider. Wearing a 91 helmet to a 91 tryout is one thing. But one can understand how wearing it to an "independent" tryout where some of the evaluators are say from 91 could be seen as an attempt to influence the outcome....and that just leaves people feeling like their kid got hosed.
I am not in that boat, but I get it.
The idea of not allowing kids to wear club helmets was actually talked about the night of the tryout and I think that is a great idea but instead you would have people complaining about town helmets and the evaluators being biased for a town. I do know of two players that are on what many would consider a top travel team and they both wore their town helmets and not the club helmet and both made the team.
I know... Have the organizer provide helmets,gloves,socks,shooting shirts just for tryouts.. Make them all black and white.
If you read the whole thread, you would read that according to some, the team was chosen before the tryouts so even eliminating club helmets would not hane made a difference.
If you read the whole thread, you would read that according to some, the team was chosen before the tryouts so even eliminating club helmets would not hane made a difference.
And if that was posted anonymously on BOTC it must be true
I have heard from a very reliable source that the evaluators at the Brine tryouts were under strict orders to pick the best 24 players that night in the final game and not to take into account how good the player was last year, who they play for or who their parent is or knows. And if that is the case this is B.S. - and a total money grab, My kid is not that good yet they took my money for the original tryout and then charged me again for the Pride games when they knew he wasn't good enough to ever make the team. Why should I pay all this money to a club team if they can't even get my son onto some select team?
I have heard from a very reliable source that the evaluators at the Brine tryouts were under strict orders to pick the best 24 players that night in the final game and not to take into account how good the player was last year, who they play for or who their parent is or knows. And if that is the case this is B.S. - and a total money grab, My kid is not that good yet they took my money for the original tryout and then charged me again for the Pride games when they knew he wasn't good enough to ever make the team. Why should I pay all this money to a club team if they can't even get my son onto some select team?
Move to another state where your son can be the superstar, make sure it is not on the east coast, CO, CA, GA, TX, OH.. maybe LA or WI? But I've heard that they are ramping up so get moving out.
I have heard from a very reliable source that the evaluators at the Brine tryouts were under strict orders to pick the best 24 players that night in the final game and not to take into account how good the player was last year, who they play for or who their parent is or knows. And if that is the case this is B.S. - and a total money grab, My kid is not that good yet they took my money for the original tryout and then charged me again for the Pride games when they knew he wasn't good enough to ever make the team. Why should I pay all this money to a club team if they can't even get my son onto some select team?
Thats funny because players who weren't even part of the last 24 made the New [lacrosse] team. Yes paying helps and this is the perfect example. Get cut but still make team when teams are chosen behind closed doors. Yup thats how it works.
As long as they look at their skills and not the helmets they have on. An honest tryout. Never happen. Easier to give a few bocks and get him on the team.
We have a committed town team and for the tryouts the players are prohibited from wearing anything that identifies themselves as a member of a club team. It is still pretty political...but that is at least an attempt at making it appear fair. If they wanted these recruiting events to truly be as apolitical as possible that might be something to consider. Wearing a 91 helmet to a 91 tryout is one thing. But one can understand how wearing it to an "independent" tryout where some of the evaluators are say from 91 could be seen as an attempt to influence the outcome....and that just leaves people feeling like their kid got hosed.
I am not in that boat, but I get it.
The idea of not allowing kids to wear club helmets was actually talked about the night of the tryout and I think that is a great idea but instead you would have people complaining about town helmets and the evaluators being biased for a town. I do know of two players that are on what many would consider a top travel team and they both wore their town helmets and not the club helmet and both made the team.
I know... Have the organizer provide helmets,gloves,socks,shooting shirts just for tryouts.. Make them all black and white.
If you read the whole thread, you would read that according to some, the team was chosen before the tryouts so even eliminating club helmets would not hane made a difference.
Just bring in objective independent evaluators. Case closed.
As long as they look at their skills and not the helmets they have on. An honest tryout. Never happen. Easier to give a few bocks and get him on the team.
We have a committed town team and for the tryouts the players are prohibited from wearing anything that identifies themselves as a member of a club team. It is still pretty political...but that is at least an attempt at making it appear fair. If they wanted these recruiting events to truly be as apolitical as possible that might be something to consider. Wearing a 91 helmet to a 91 tryout is one thing. But one can understand how wearing it to an "independent" tryout where some of the evaluators are say from 91 could be seen as an attempt to influence the outcome....and that just leaves people feeling like their kid got hosed.
I am not in that boat, but I get it.
The idea of not allowing kids to wear club helmets was actually talked about the night of the tryout and I think that is a great idea but instead you would have people complaining about town helmets and the evaluators being biased for a town. I do know of two players that are on what many would consider a top travel team and they both wore their town helmets and not the club helmet and both made the team.
I know... Have the organizer provide helmets,gloves,socks,shooting shirts just for tryouts.. Make them all black and white.
If you read the whole thread, you would read that according to some, the team was chosen before the tryouts so even eliminating club helmets would not hane made a difference.
Just bring in objective independent evaluators. Case closed.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL - great comic relief,
How did the teams that competed today do?
How did the teams that competed today do?
2018 Viper 3-0
How did the teams that competed today do?
2018 Viper 3-0
Weren't they 2-0-1. Tied the Jesters? I could be wrong...
How did the teams that competed today do?
2018 Viper 3-0
Vipers A 2-0-1
Jesters Black 2-0-1
Jesters Green 3-0
Tomahawks 1-2
Legacy Carnage 0-3
Legacy Slashes 2-1
West Islip 2-1
EXPRESS 1-2
How did the teams that competed today do?
2018 Viper 3-0
Jesters 2 0 1
Tied the Vipers 5-5 in good game
Legacy Slashers were 2-0-1
Yes Jesters and Vipers tied 5 to 5 in the 8am on Burns East with Jeters coming back with just minutes to go to end in tie. Those two teams have met before in Championship gaems with each winining one. A fitting end. In the next game on Burns West, Jesters went up quickly on Tomahawks and the Tomahawks chipped away and gave them a game with final score 8 to 7. At one point Tomahawks were down maybe 7 to 1 and mounted a huge comeback.
Legacy Slashers were 2-0-1
Slashers lost to West Islip....they were 2-1
Sounds like it was a good weekend of Lacrosse...
But they were swimming in the shallow end of the pool.
Which is Legacy is A? I think it's Carnage and Slashers, coached by Sully, is the B.
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
You have no clue what you are talking about. They could have possibly gone 0-3 in many pools. New team vs boys that have been playing together a while.
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
You obviously miss the point. The university should be concerned that Caputo is ALWAYS representing the University and his actions are accountable.
Stop it. Your son got cut amongst the best competition on the Island. Move on. There is separation between probably the top 5-10. But 11- 60 is on parity. There are kids that made it to Blue Chip that didn't get to pride games. Stop crying that your son got a raw deal.
Does not mean anything that Caputo's kids play on 91. Just Saying.
You obviously miss the point. The university should be concerned that Caputo is ALWAYS representing the University and his actions are accountable.
Stop it. Your son got cut amongst the best competition on the Island. Move on. There is separation between probably the top 5-10. But 11- 60 is on parity. There are kids that made it to Blue Chip that didn't get to pride games. Stop crying that your son got a raw deal.
Does not mean anything that Caputo's kids play on 91. Just Saying.
STOP!
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
If those are not A teams? What teams do you think are A? Extreme and Terps only?
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
Jesters Black and Vipers are solid A teams. Are they on the Terps level or even Extreme, no. Those teams are more AA level. But the Vipers and Jesters, along with the Outlaws Black and 91 Orange are the next best teams on the Island.
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
Wouldn't call them A teams ? What team does your son play on?
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
So you are saying that there are only 2 A teams on LI for 2018? Terps and Extreme?
Everyone else is a B team?
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
If those are not A teams? What teams do you think are A? Extreme and Terps only?
A Teams from LI based on last years results and some from this year.
91 Extreme
Express Terps
Team LI
fl$
91 Orange used to be White
Outlaws Black
Wolverines
B Teams:
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws
Tomahawks
Just my opinion. There are other teams that call themselves A but that's just in their program. Just to appease the parents all these programs have started calling teams AA, A, and so.
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
So you are saying that there are only 2 A teams on LI for 2018? Terps and Extreme?
Everyone else is a B team?
No that's what you said. I just said a few teams like Vipers, Tomahawks, and Jesters Black are not A teams. How many tournaments did any of these teams win playing in A brackets. I cant remember a single one.
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
If those are not A teams? What teams do you think are A? Extreme and Terps only?
A Teams from LI based on last years results and some from this year.
91 Extreme
Express Terps
Team LI
fl$
91 Orange used to be White
Outlaws Black
Wolverines
B Teams:
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws
Tomahawks
Just my opinion. There are other teams that call themselves A but that's just in their program. Just to appease the parents all these programs have started calling teams AA, A, and so.
Jesters Black beat fl$ two out of 3 times last year and also beat Outlaws Black twice.
Try this one based on actual results:
91 Extreme
Express Terps
Team LI (u14)
91 Orange
Express Wolverenes (based on last year)
Jesters
Outlaws Black
fl$
Vipers
Tomahawks
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
So you are saying that there are only 2 A teams on LI for 2018? Terps and Extreme?
Everyone else is a B team?
No that's what you said. I just said a few teams like Vipers, Tomahawks, and Jesters Black are not A teams. How many tournaments did any of these teams win playing in A brackets. I cant remember a single one.
Okay, I will amend my question - what teams do you consider to be A teams?
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
If those are not A teams? What teams do you think are A? Extreme and Terps only?
A Teams from LI based on last years results and some from this year.
91 Extreme
Express Terps
Team LI
fl$
91 Orange used to be White
Outlaws Black
Wolverines
B Teams:
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws
Tomahawks
Just my opinion. There are other teams that call themselves A but that's just in their program. Just to appease the parents all these programs have started calling teams AA, A, and so.
Jesters Black beat fl$ two out of 3 times last year and also beat Outlaws Black twice.
Why don't we wait until we have a few weeks into the season before classifying these programs, with the school programs ending, now the teams can focus on retraining their players to play the way the clubs want them to play and have some fun this season. This really is the last time they can just go play for fun, starting the fall, many of them will be focusing on showcases so they can begin their school selection processes.
Stop this AA, A, B.. crap. Show it on the field, have fun and enjoy.
... In my opinion.
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
So you are saying that there are only 2 A teams on LI for 2018? Terps and Extreme?
Everyone else is a B team?
No that's what you said. I just said a few teams like Vipers, Tomahawks, and Jesters Black are not A teams. How many tournaments did any of these teams win playing in A brackets. I cant remember a single one.
Jesters Black won Blatant and Pro Player both in A bracket in the last 6 weeks. These other teams do not need to "win" the tournament to be considered an A team. They need to be able to compete in that bracket. Only one winner per tournament!
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
If those are not A teams? What teams do you think are A? Extreme and Terps only?
A Teams from LI based on last years results and some from this year.
91 Extreme
Express Terps
Team LI
fl$
91 Orange used to be White
Outlaws Black
Wolverines
B Teams:
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws
Tomahawks
Just my opinion. There are other teams that call themselves A but that's just in their program. Just to appease the parents all these programs have started calling teams AA, A, and so.
Jesters Black beat fl$ two out of 3 times last year and also beat Outlaws Black twice.
My bad. You are correct. So Put Jesters Black as an A. Very well coached and improving.
Extreme
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters Black
Outlaws Black
Vipers
fl$
TLI Red
Carnage
Tomahawks
Outlaws Silver
Everyone else has to play and play "recently". Anyone who argues with this has not been on the fields from Shamrock to the OBLL to the JDRF. So go playyour way in.
Extreme
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters Black
Outlaws Black
Vipers
fl$
TLI Red
Carnage
Tomahawks
Outlaws Silver
Everyone else has to play and play "recently". Anyone who argues with this has not been on the fields from Shamrock to the OBLL to the JDRF. So go playyour way in.
But the Terps and Extreme didn't play in any of the tournaments? did they? why do they get an automatic.. FEAR!
Extreme
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters Black
Outlaws Black
Vipers
fl$
TLI Red
Carnage
Tomahawks
Outlaws Silver
Everyone else has to play and play "recently". Anyone who argues with this has not been on the fields from Shamrock to the OBLL to the JDRF. So go playyour way in.
But the Terps and Extreme didn't play in any of the tournaments? did they? why do they get an automatic.. FEAR!
Fear of what. Give credit where credit is due. Extreme a 2018 team just beat Jesters 2017, Outlaws 2017 and I don't know how they did vs True Blue 2017 in JDRF. They have also played many other top teams so far this Spring. Terps have also played some of the Best Teams like Dukes and Crabs and many others so far this season and done very well. When whatever teams you consider an A teams beats them then they can claim to be the top dogs in 2018. As of right now Extreme and Terps are.
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
So you are saying that there are only 2 A teams on LI for 2018? Terps and Extreme?
Everyone else is a B team?
No that's what you said. I just said a few teams like Vipers, Tomahawks, and Jesters Black are not A teams. How many tournaments did any of these teams win playing in A brackets. I cant remember a single one.
Jesters Black won Blatant and Pro Player both in A bracket in the last 6 weeks. These other teams do not need to "win" the tournament to be considered an A team. They need to be able to compete in that bracket. Only one winner per tournament!
What A teams were at Pro player besides Jesters Black? Because you call a bracket an A bracket or a Team an A team doesn't mean they are that. Jesus Legacy called the Carnage an A team. Would you consider them an A team.
What A teams were at Pro player besides Jesters Black? Because you call a bracket an A bracket or a Team an A team doesn't mean they are that. Jesus Legacy called the Carnage an A team. Would you consider them an A team.
Which tournaments this year would you consider to have true A brackets?
What about last fall/winter?
What A teams were at Pro player besides Jesters Black? Because you call a bracket an A bracket or a Team an A team doesn't mean they are that. Jesus Legacy called the Carnage an A team. Would you consider them an A team.
Which tournaments this year would you consider to have true A brackets?
What about last fall/winter?
Really no A tournaments this early spring with true A brackets. Here is my assessment Shamrock: no, Blatant: no, Pro Player: no, JDRF: no. The next few will start the better tournaments. When we see the better non LI teams coming to the tournaments it will signify the start of the true A tournament season.
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
So you are saying that there are only 2 A teams on LI for 2018? Terps and Extreme?
Everyone else is a B team?
No that's what you said. I just said a few teams like Vipers, Tomahawks, and Jesters Black are not A teams. How many tournaments did any of these teams win playing in A brackets. I cant remember a single one.
Jesters Black won Blatant and Pro Player both in A bracket in the last 6 weeks. These other teams do not need to "win" the tournament to be considered an A team. They need to be able to compete in that bracket. Only one winner per tournament!
What A teams were at Pro player besides Jesters Black? Because you call a bracket an A bracket or a Team an A team doesn't mean they are that. Jesus Legacy called the Carnage an A team. Would you consider them an A team.
Outlaws Black
Vipers
Can only play the teams who show up!
Carnage is A and swimming in the "deeper" end of the pool and ended up 0 - 3 losing to LI Tomahawks, Jesters Black and Viper A. Carnage is a good solid team who got a tough draw.
Wouldn't call any of those teams (Tomahawks, Jesters Black, and Vipers A) A teams. Solid B teams and the Legacy teams are a mess. Slashers are the better of the two teams in 2018.
So you are saying that there are only 2 A teams on LI for 2018? Terps and Extreme?
Everyone else is a B team?
No that's what you said. I just said a few teams like Vipers, Tomahawks, and Jesters Black are not A teams. How many tournaments did any of these teams win playing in A brackets. I cant remember a single one.
Jesters Black won Blatant and Pro Player both in A bracket in the last 6 weeks. These other teams do not need to "win" the tournament to be considered an A team. They need to be able to compete in that bracket. Only one winner per tournament!
What A teams were at Pro player besides Jesters Black? Because you call a bracket an A bracket or a Team an A team doesn't mean they are that. Jesus Legacy called the Carnage an A team. Would you consider them an A team.
Legacy Carnage won a tournament?? I don't think so.
Extreme
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters Black
Outlaws Black
Vipers
fl$
TLI Red
Carnage
Tomahawks
Outlaws Silver
Everyone else has to play and play "recently". Anyone who argues with this has not been on the fields from Shamrock to the OBLL to the JDRF. So go playyour way in.
But the Terps and Extreme didn't play in any of the tournaments? did they? why do they get an automatic.. FEAR!
This is a horrible list but top two are correct ! Top 5 may be correct , then it's insane. You have two teams on that list that went a combined 1 and 5 Sunday!
please help - I am not sure how to classify my kid, he is a middle of the road (B) player on a very good (A) team, does this make him an A-? or a B+ and is everybody an A or a B or their actually C players? I am not sure how to measure my kid. Judge Smails suggests height but he is average height as wells
confused in laxland
we are all getting caught up in the AA, A and B stuff and it is very confusing - I suggest that going forward we follow the governments warning level - so you know the level of the team you are playing and how prepared you need to be
Severe (red): severe risk - You are gonna get a beat down
High (orange): high risk - you will lose but they cheat
Elevated (yellow): significant risk - game will go either way
Guarded (blue): general risk - we could win
Low (green): low risk - we will actually win a game
we are all getting caught up in the AA, A and B stuff and it is very confusing - I suggest that going forward we follow the governments warning level - so you know the level of the team you are playing and how prepared you need to be
Severe (red): severe risk - You are gonna get a beat down
High (orange): high risk - you will lose but they cheat
Elevated (yellow): significant risk - game will go either way
Guarded (blue): general risk - we could win
Low (green): low risk - we will actually win a game
LOL! That is awesome. one of the best posts in awhile
we are all getting caught up in the AA, A and B stuff and it is very confusing - I suggest that going forward we follow the governments warning level - so you know the level of the team you are playing and how prepared you need to be
Severe (red): severe risk - You are gonna get a beat down
High (orange): high risk - you will lose but they cheat
Elevated (yellow): significant risk - game will go either way
Guarded (blue): general risk - we could win
Low (green): low risk - we will actually win a game
Just Brilliant!
Extreme
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters Black
Outlaws Black
Vipers
fl$
TLI Red
Carnage
Tomahawks
Outlaws Silver
Everyone else has to play and play "recently". Anyone who argues with this has not been on the fields from Shamrock to the OBLL to the JDRF. So go playyour way in.
But the Terps and Extreme didn't play in any of the tournaments? did they? why do they get an automatic.. FEAR!
This is a horrible list but top two are correct ! Top 5 may be correct , then it's insane. You have two teams on that list that went a combined 1 and 5 Sunday!
You have to play in 2014 to be on there.... Extreme won Shamrock.
Extreme
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters Black
Outlaws Black
Vipers
fl$
TLI Red
Carnage
Tomahawks
Outlaws Silver
Everyone else has to play and play "recently". Anyone who argues with this has not been on the fields from Shamrock to the OBLL to the JDRF. So go playyour way in.
But the Terps and Extreme didn't play in any of the tournaments? did they? why do they get an automatic.. FEAR!
This is a horrible list but top two are correct ! Top 5 may be correct , then it's insane. You have two teams on that list that went a combined 1 and 5 Sunday!
You have to play in 2014 to be on there.... Extreme won Shamrock.
And they beat an all star team from NJ! How can anyone say this was not an A tournament. Either you were not there or you have no clue!
Extreme
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters Black
Outlaws Black
Vipers
fl$
TLI Red
Carnage
Tomahawks
Outlaws Silver
Everyone else has to play and play "recently". Anyone who argues with this has not been on the fields from Shamrock to the OBLL to the JDRF. So go playyour way in.
But the Terps and Extreme didn't play in any of the tournaments? did they? why do they get an automatic.. FEAR!
This is a horrible list but top two are correct ! Top 5 may be correct , then it's insane. You have two teams on that list that went a combined 1 and 5 Sunday!
You have to play in 2014 to be on there.... Extreme won Shamrock.
And they beat an all star team from NJ! How can anyone say this was not an A tournament. Either you were not there or you have no clue!
Two top level teams does not make an A tournament. You have no clue. I watched both games and the NJ team beat Extreme in first game and Extreme beat them in finals. FYI it wasn't an all star team. The NJ team threw players together to play in this tournament and then they all went back to their respective teams. Definitely not some tryout and selection process as an all star team would infer. There were some Dukes from PA and Patriots from NJ on there that my son played with at 3D in Florida. So he knew about them coming up to play together for this tournament and this tournament only.
An A tournament with A teams for this age group in my opinion would be as follows: in no specific order or ranking.
Extreme, Terps, Dukes, Crabs, fl$, BBL, fl$, TLI, 365 Lax, Jesters Black, 91 Orange and Patriots. If I missed some of the better teams no offense. Its just off the top of my head. Would love to see this play out. It never would but it would be nice. Throw in some of those 3D teams like New England and West Coast, Team Texas and a Cali team or two and that would be a real A tournament.
If I have no clue tell me where I am incorrect regarding the A teams I list and if this would not be an A team tournament. I will happily admit I was wrong.
Extreme
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters Black
Outlaws Black
Vipers
fl$
TLI Red
Carnage
Tomahawks
Outlaws Silver
Everyone else has to play and play "recently". Anyone who argues with this has not been on the fields from Shamrock to the OBLL to the JDRF. So go playyour way in.
But the Terps and Extreme didn't play in any of the tournaments? did they? why do they get an automatic.. FEAR!
This is a horrible list but top two are correct ! Top 5 may be correct , then it's insane. You have two teams on that list that went a combined 1 and 5 Sunday!
You have to play in 2014 to be on there.... Extreme won Shamrock.
And they beat an all star team from NJ! How can anyone say this was not an A tournament. Either you were not there or you have no clue!
Two top level teams does not make an A tournament. You have no clue. I watched both games and the NJ team beat Extreme in first game and Extreme beat them in finals. FYI it wasn't an all star team. The NJ team threw players together to play in this tournament and then they all went back to their respective teams. Definitely not some tryout and selection process as an all star team would infer. There were some Dukes from PA and Patriots from NJ on there that my son played with at 3D in Florida. So he knew about them coming up to play together for this tournament and this tournament only.
An A tournament with A teams for this age group in my opinion would be as follows: in no specific order or ranking.
Extreme, Terps, Dukes, Crabs, fl$, BBL, fl$, TLI, 365 Lax, Jesters Black, 91 Orange and Patriots. If I missed some of the better teams no offense. Its just off the top of my head. Would love to see this play out. It never would but it would be nice. Throw in some of those 3D teams like New England and West Coast, Team Texas and a Cali team or two and that would be a real A tournament.
If I have no clue tell me where I am incorrect regarding the A teams I list and if this would not be an A team tournament. I will happily admit I was wrong.
Well done, people get so sensitive when just trying to talk lax. I would add Outlaws Black. They are a solid team. They should win this weekend. FYI, 2018 Terps not playing in 2018 this weekend, they are playing up.
Extreme
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters Black
Outlaws Black
Vipers
fl$
TLI Red
Carnage
Tomahawks
Outlaws Silver
Everyone else has to play and play "recently". Anyone who argues with this has not been on the fields from Shamrock to the OBLL to the JDRF. So go playyour way in.
But the Terps and Extreme didn't play in any of the tournaments? did they? why do they get an automatic.. FEAR!
This is a horrible list but top two are correct ! Top 5 may be correct , then it's insane. You have two teams on that list that went a combined 1 and 5 Sunday!
You have to play in 2014 to be on there.... Extreme won Shamrock.
And they beat an all star team from NJ! How can anyone say this was not an A tournament. Either you were not there or you have no clue!
Two top level teams does not make an A tournament. You have no clue. I watched both games and the NJ team beat Extreme in first game and Extreme beat them in finals. FYI it wasn't an all star team. The NJ team threw players together to play in this tournament and then they all went back to their respective teams. Definitely not some tryout and selection process as an all star team would infer. There were some Dukes from PA and Patriots from NJ on there that my son played with at 3D in Florida. So he knew about them coming up to play together for this tournament and this tournament only.
An A tournament with A teams for this age group in my opinion would be as follows: in no specific order or ranking.
Extreme, Terps, Dukes, Crabs, fl$, BBL, fl$, TLI, 365 Lax, Jesters Black, 91 Orange and Patriots. If I missed some of the better teams no offense. Its just off the top of my head. Would love to see this play out. It never would but it would be nice. Throw in some of those 3D teams like New England and West Coast, Team Texas and a Cali team or two and that would be a real A tournament.
If I have no clue tell me where I am incorrect regarding the A teams I list and if this would not be an A team tournament. I will happily admit I was wrong.
You are 100 percent on the A teams. The "all star" team? They were kids put together from A teams to compete. They were not thrown together. They beat extreme. I say all star team. Shamrock A division had 3 teams (Extreme, 91 Orange and Jesters Black ) from your list and the NJ team. Only 4 teams in bracket. All A teams. I think you could say it was a small (spring) tournament but hard to say it wasn't an A tournament?
2018 Terps playing up in JV A this weekend at Forsberg...Last weekend they beat Darien CT team by a few after five quarters.
Look good so far this year.
Let's face it, this is the last year for this team ranking stuff, byt the end of the season all will be worried about recruiting...
Change of topic-
How did all the middle schools in Suffolk and Nassau do this year? Most of the programs (some exceptions) don't bring up 8th graders so we should have some indication of which schools will be strong in HS.
No way Outlaws Black 2018 wins this weekend. Will lose by at least 4 to LIE Wolverines if they get by Tribe.
No way Outlaws Black 2018 wins this weekend. Will lose by at least 4 to LIE Wolverines if they get by Tribe.
Has LIE Wolves even started practicing yet?
How about in the A bracket they have a weak B team in there. I feel bad for that team and other teams playing them. All teams want a good game not blow outs!!!
That NJ team was put together to come play in the tournament. Of course they would grab the better players from multiple teams. They wanted to beat Extreme very badly. They lost when it counted in the finals. That showed that a team that plays together and has a strong nucleus like Extreme will beat a team that was put together on very short notice without practicing together. My son is friends with a number of boys that played on that NJ team and that's what they told him.
If 3 A teams is what makes an A tournament then I guess its an A tournament. In my opinion you need to play all A teams in a tournament to be consider an A tournament. In some tournaments there are weaker teams and when you play them you can play the kids that see little time in tight games and rest your better players. Allowing them to be ready to play 85% of the time vs another A team.
How about in the A bracket they have a weak B team in there. I feel bad for that team and other teams playing them. All teams want a good game not blow outs!!!
You can say it! True Blue in trouble!
No way Outlaws Black 2018 wins this weekend. Will lose by at least 4 to LIE Wolverines if they get by Tribe.
Has LIE Wolves even started practicing yet?
Already 2 practices in...
How about in the A bracket they have a weak B team in there. I feel bad for that team and other teams playing them. All teams want a good game not blow outs!!!
You can say it! True Blue in trouble!
It is not fair to true blue or the other teams looking to play competitive games!!!!
No way Outlaws Black 2018 wins this weekend. Will lose by at least 4 to LIE Wolverines if they get by Tribe.
Has LIE Wolves even started practicing yet?
Already 2 practices in...
Kid not on OL. Unless wolves seriously upgraded, heard they lost key pole/lsm to fl$, they will have their hands full with OL Black. That team is BIG and FAST. Should be a battle.
No way Outlaws Black 2018 wins this weekend. Will lose by at least 4 to LIE Wolverines if they get by Tribe.
Has LIE Wolves even started practicing yet?
Already 2 practices in...
Kid not on OL. Unless wolves seriously upgraded, heard they lost key pole/lsm to fl$, they will have their hands full with OL Black. That team is BIG and FAST. Should be a battle.
Won't even be a game. Solid A team. Just because you have not seen them does not mean they are not good!
How about in the A bracket they have a weak B team in there. I feel bad for that team and other teams playing them. All teams want a good game not blow outs!!!
Which is the weak team you are referring to.
Should be some good lax at this age group at the Brine this weekend. I predict a Crabs vs Extreme final.
No way Outlaws Black 2018 wins this weekend. Will lose by at least 4 to LIE Wolverines if they get by Tribe.
Wow, can you tell us what horse is going to win the Belmont and by how much? As far as I know, the Wolverines have not played a game since November and only just started practicing within the past week and you have them beating a very solid team that has been playing all winter and spring by at least 4?
No way Outlaws Black 2018 wins this weekend. Will lose by at least 4 to LIE Wolverines if they get by Tribe.
Has LIE Wolves even started practicing yet?
Already 2 practices in...
Kid not on OL. Unless wolves seriously upgraded, heard they lost key pole/lsm to fl$, they will have their hands full with OL Black. That team is BIG and FAST. Should be a battle.
The Wolverines' bigger loss was their fogo to the Outlaws Black
No way Outlaws Black 2018 wins this weekend. Will lose by at least 4 to LIE Wolverines if they get by Tribe.
Wow, can you tell us what horse is going to win the Belmont and by how much? As far as I know, the Wolverines have not played a game since November and only just started practicing within the past week and you have them beating a very solid team that has been playing all winter and spring by at least 4?
Medal count at Belmont. 20 to 1. Bet it all.
And Absolutely 4 goal spread on champioship game!
No way Outlaws Black 2018 wins this weekend. Will lose by at least 4 to LIE Wolverines if they get by Tribe.
Has LIE Wolves even started practicing yet?
Already 2 practices in...
Well there you go then!
No way Outlaws Black 2018 wins this weekend. Will lose by at least 4 to LIE Wolverines if they get by Tribe.
Has LIE Wolves even started practicing yet?
Already 2 practices in...
Kid not on OL. Unless wolves seriously upgraded, heard they lost key pole/lsm to fl$, they will have their hands full with OL Black. That team is BIG and FAST. Should be a battle.
The Wolverines' bigger loss was their fogo to the Outlaws Black
Black barely beat the Express C team at Blaitant this spring. Let's talk about their greatness on Monday...
Express Wolverines just started practicing?
No way Outlaws Black 2018 wins this weekend. Will lose by at least 4 to LIE Wolverines if they get by Tribe.
Has LIE Wolves even started practicing yet?
Already 2 practices in...
Kid not on OL. Unless wolves seriously upgraded, heard they lost key pole/lsm to fl$, they will have their hands full with OL Black. That team is BIG and FAST. Should be a battle.
The Wolverines' bigger loss was their fogo to the Outlaws Black
Black barely beat the Express C team at Blaitant this spring. Let's talk about their greatness on Monday...
And Extreme barely got by Jesters Black at Shamrock... So what does any of this mean? It means that these teams are getting a little closer than you think. The top two are still the best, no question, but if they have an off day some of these other teams can play them very close. The top two teams just have more depth. However, the starters of the top five or six teams are a lot closer talent wise than many of the parents on the top two teams might want to admit.
Extreme
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters Black
Outlaws Black
Vipers
fl$
TLI Red
Carnage
Tomahawks
Outlaws Silver
Everyone else has to play and play "recently". Anyone who argues with this has not been on the fields from Shamrock to the OBLL to the JDRF. So go playyour way in.
But the Terps and Extreme didn't play in any of the tournaments? did they? why do they get an automatic.. FEAR!
Fear of what. Give credit where credit is due. Extreme a 2018 team just beat Jesters 2017, Outlaws 2017 and I don't know how they did vs True Blue 2017 in JDRF. They have also played many other top teams so far this Spring. Terps have also played some of the Best Teams like Dukes and Crabs and many others so far this season and done very well. When whatever teams you consider an A teams beats them then they can claim to be the top dogs in 2018. As of right now Extreme and Terps are.
Seeing how many of Extreme's players should be 2017's, I wouldn't be spouting off too much... Please don't say it's not true, and don't worry I won't lower myself to listing them here. Not their fault they were held back. The fact is, put those kids on the 91 2017 team where they belong and it makes an Extreme difference... Sorry.
Express Wolverines just started practicing?
Yes. They do nothing November through May.
Express Wolverines just started practicing?
Yes. They do nothing November through May.
wow that is not good for those boys
Extreme
Terps
91 Orange
Jesters Black
Outlaws Black
Vipers
fl$
TLI Red
Carnage
Tomahawks
Outlaws Silver
Everyone else has to play and play "recently". Anyone who argues with this has not been on the fields from Shamrock to the OBLL to the JDRF. So go playyour way in.
But the Terps and Extreme didn't play in any of the tournaments? did they? why do they get an automatic.. FEAR!
Fear of what. Give credit where credit is due. Extreme a 2018 team just beat Jesters 2017, Outlaws 2017 and I don't know how they did vs True Blue 2017 in JDRF. They have also played many other top teams so far this Spring. Terps have also played some of the Best Teams like Dukes and Crabs and many others so far this season and done very well. When whatever teams you consider an A teams beats them then they can claim to be the top dogs in 2018. As of right now Extreme and Terps are.
Seeing how many of Extreme's players should be 2017's, I wouldn't be spouting off too much... Please don't say it's not true, and don't worry I won't lower myself to listing them here. Not their fault they were held back. The fact is, put those kids on the 91 2017 team where they belong and it makes an Extreme difference... Sorry.
All the good teams cheat and everyone gets screwed by a ref. Stop it. They are a grade based team and 100% eligible. Start blaming somebody who can make a difference and just go by age.
You obviously miss the point. The university should be concerned that Caputo is ALWAYS representing the University and his actions are accountable.
Stop it. Your son got cut amongst the best competition on the Island. Move on. There is separation between probably the top 5-10. But 11- 60 is on parity. There are kids that made it to Blue Chip that didn't get to pride games. Stop crying that your son got a raw deal.
Does not mean anything that Caputo's kids play on 91. Just Saying.
STOP!
WHY ? This years team should be called Brine Extreme
Seeing how many of Extreme's players should be 2017's, I wouldn't be spouting off too much... Please don't say it's not true, and don't worry I won't lower myself to listing them here. Not their fault they were held back. The fact is, put those kids on the 91 2017 team where they belong and it makes an Extreme difference... Sorry.
I w i l l t y p e s l o w s o y o u u n d e r s t a n d
A p l a y e r b o r n i n 1 9 9 9 o r 1 9 9 8 o r 2 0 0 0 t h a t i s s c h e d u l e d t o g r a d u a t e h i g h s c h o o l i n 2 0 1 8 i s a l e g a l 2 0 1 8 p l a y e r ......n o d i f f e r e n t i f h e i s t a l l e r f a s t e r o r b e t t e r s k i l l e d, i f h e i s g r a d u a t i n g i n 2 0 1 8 h e i s a 2 0 1 8
just to be clear, my son was born in 2000 and is a 2018 and plays for Express not 91.
Seeing how many of Extreme's players should be 2017's, I wouldn't be spouting off too much... Please don't say it's not true, and don't worry I won't lower myself to listing them here. Not their fault they were held back. The fact is, put those kids on the 91 2017 team where they belong and it makes an Extreme difference... Sorry.
I w i l l t y p e s l o w s o y o u u n d e r s t a n d
A p l a y e r b o r n i n 1 9 9 9 o r 1 9 9 8 o r 2 0 0 0 t h a t i s s c h e d u l e d t o g r a d u a t e h i g h s c h o o l i n 2 0 1 8 i s a l e g a l 2 0 1 8 p l a y e r ......n o d i f f e r e n t i f h e i s t a l l e r f a s t e r o r b e t t e r s k i l l e d, i f h e i s g r a d u a t i n g i n 2 0 1 8 h e i s a 2 0 1 8
just to be clear, my son was born in 2000 and is a 2018 and plays for Express not 91.
Thanks for slowing down. So you think people who were born in 1998 belong in 2018? Might not be illegal but certainly is not where they belong. People born in three different years shouldn't be in same grade.
Agree that the system allows for the cheaters to cheat and hold their kids back...It goes on in Maryland and Phili all the time. There was a big article about the practice a few weeks back.
Sounds like the LI crew is starting to catch on and chase that D-1 spot...
Cant even imagine telling mine-age appropriate 2018 born in 2000 (with straight As in honors classes in competitive public school) that I thought it would be a good idea to repeat a grade...
Let the cheaters cheat, it will catch up to them eventually.
Seeing how many of Extreme's players should be 2017's, I wouldn't be spouting off too much... Please don't say it's not true, and don't worry I won't lower myself to listing them here. Not their fault they were held back. The fact is, put those kids on the 91 2017 team where they belong and it makes an Extreme difference... Sorry.
I w i l l t y p e s l o w s o y o u u n d e r s t a n d
A p l a y e r b o r n i n 1 9 9 9 o r 1 9 9 8 o r 2 0 0 0 t h a t i s s c h e d u l e d t o g r a d u a t e h i g h s c h o o l i n 2 0 1 8 i s a l e g a l 2 0 1 8 p l a y e r ......n o d i f f e r e n t i f h e i s t a l l e r f a s t e r o r b e t t e r s k i l l e d, i f h e i s g r a d u a t i n g i n 2 0 1 8 h e i s a 2 0 1 8
just to be clear, my son was born in 2000 and is a 2018 and plays for Express not 91.
Thanks for slowing down. So you think people who were born in 1998 belong in 2018? Might not be illegal but certainly is not where they belong. People born in three different years shouldn't be in same grade.
yes, I think that any kid that is graduating in 2018 should play on a 2018 team, there were 8th and 9th graders playing varsity lacrosse this year across long island - that is a 5 or potentially 6 year age difference and I doubt that they were complaining about the age difference. they just played
Agree that the system allows for the cheaters to cheat and hold their kids back...It goes on in Maryland and Phili all the time. There was a big article about the practice a few weeks back.
Sounds like the LI crew is starting to catch on and chase that D-1 spot...
Cant even imagine telling mine-age appropriate 2018 born in 2000 (with straight As in honors classes in competitive public school) that I thought it would be a good idea to repeat a grade...
Let the cheaters cheat, it will catch up to them eventually.
it is not cheating, it is playing with and against kids in your graduating year
It is cheating if you hold your kid back 8th grade.
If you hold your kid out of kindergarten because he / she is not mature enough, I have no issue. If you hold your kid back in first grade because he/she is not ready to move on academically, I have no issue.
If you hold him/her back in 8th grade, and you are doing so to give him/her an edge athletically, you ARE cheating.But good luck to you nonetheless.
Seeing how many of Extreme's players should be 2017's, I wouldn't be spouting off too much... Please don't say it's not true, and don't worry I won't lower myself to listing them here. Not their fault they were held back. The fact is, put those kids on the 91 2017 team where they belong and it makes an Extreme difference... Sorry.
I w i l l t y p e s l o w s o y o u u n d e r s t a n d
A p l a y e r b o r n i n 1 9 9 9 o r 1 9 9 8 o r 2 0 0 0 t h a t i s s c h e d u l e d t o g r a d u a t e h i g h s c h o o l i n 2 0 1 8 i s a l e g a l 2 0 1 8 p l a y e r ......n o d i f f e r e n t i f h e i s t a l l e r f a s t e r o r b e t t e r s k i l l e d, i f h e i s g r a d u a t i n g i n 2 0 1 8 h e i s a 2 0 1 8
just to be clear, my son was born in 2000 and is a 2018 and plays for Express not 91.
Thanks for slowing down. So you think people who were born in 1998 belong in 2018? Might not be illegal but certainly is not where they belong. People born in three different years shouldn't be in same grade.
yes, I think that any kid that is graduating in 2018 should play on a 2018 team, there were 8th and 9th graders playing varsity lacrosse this year across long island - that is a 5 or potentially 6 year age difference and I doubt that they were complaining about the age difference. they just played
I have not verified but when spring of 2018 rolls around, those 1998 birth years will not be eligilbe to play on their HS teams. A few years ago one of the HS football teams had to forfeit games due to a 2x holdback being on the roster. The universities may not care, but the HS athletic associations do.
Let the cheaters cheat, it will catch up to them eventually.
When?
I think the advantages parents are providing their kids via holdbacks sometimes pan out to help the kid get into a top university they may not of otherwise qualified for.
If you look at Ivy, JHU, Duke, UVA, UNC etc... rosters you will find many players who would not have made the school without lacrosse
Many of those players would not of earned a lacrosse spot without the competitive advantages of a holdback
Seeing how many of Extreme's players should be 2017's, I wouldn't be spouting off too much... Please don't say it's not true, and don't worry I won't lower myself to listing them here. Not their fault they were held back. The fact is, put those kids on the 91 2017 team where they belong and it makes an Extreme difference... Sorry.
I w i l l t y p e s l o w s o y o u u n d e r s t a n d
A p l a y e r b o r n i n 1 9 9 9 o r 1 9 9 8 o r 2 0 0 0 t h a t i s s c h e d u l e d t o g r a d u a t e h i g h s c h o o l i n 2 0 1 8 i s a l e g a l 2 0 1 8 p l a y e r ......n o d i f f e r e n t i f h e i s t a l l e r f a s t e r o r b e t t e r s k i l l e d, i f h e i s g r a d u a t i n g i n 2 0 1 8 h e i s a 2 0 1 8
just to be clear, my son was born in 2000 and is a 2018 and plays for Express not 91.
Thanks for slowing down. So you think people who were born in 1998 belong in 2018? Might not be illegal but certainly is not where they belong. People born in three different years shouldn't be in same grade.
yes, I think that any kid that is graduating in 2018 should play on a 2018 team, there were 8th and 9th graders playing varsity lacrosse this year across long island - that is a 5 or potentially 6 year age difference and I doubt that they were complaining about the age difference. they just played
They were 17 but they did not complain once!
Agree that the system allows for the cheaters to cheat and hold their kids back...It goes on in Maryland and Phili all the time. There was a big article about the practice a few weeks back.
Sounds like the LI crew is starting to catch on and chase that D-1 spot...
Cant even imagine telling mine-age appropriate 2018 born in 2000 (with straight As in honors classes in competitive public school) that I thought it would be a good idea to repeat a grade...
Let the cheaters cheat, it will catch up to them eventually.
it is not cheating, it is playing with and against kids in your graduating year
If you stay down for sports it is. So it is OK to be a 15 year old 8th grader playing with a 13 year old because their parents thought this was a good idea? "Cheating" when there are no rules is a very grey area. Whatcever helps you feel better!
Seeing how many of Extreme's players should be 2017's, I wouldn't be spouting off too much... Please don't say it's not true, and don't worry I won't lower myself to listing them here. Not their fault they were held back. The fact is, put those kids on the 91 2017 team where they belong and it makes an Extreme difference... Sorry.
I w i l l t y p e s l o w s o y o u u n d e r s t a n d
A p l a y e r b o r n i n 1 9 9 9 o r 1 9 9 8 o r 2 0 0 0 t h a t i s s c h e d u l e d t o g r a d u a t e h i g h s c h o o l i n 2 0 1 8 i s a l e g a l 2 0 1 8 p l a y e r ......n o d i f f e r e n t i f h e i s t a l l e r f a s t e r o r b e t t e r s k i l l e d, i f h e i s g r a d u a t i n g i n 2 0 1 8 h e i s a 2 0 1 8
just to be clear, my son was born in 2000 and is a 2018 and plays for Express not 91.
Thanks for slowing down. So you think people who were born in 1998 belong in 2018? Might not be illegal but certainly is not where they belong. People born in three different years shouldn't be in same grade.
yes, I think that any kid that is graduating in 2018 should play on a 2018 team, there were 8th and 9th graders playing varsity lacrosse this year across long island - that is a 5 or potentially 6 year age difference and I doubt that they were complaining about the age difference. they just played
I really love hearing the justifications of why it's "OK" that you're gaming the system at others expense. I.E. Cheating. Do you ever ask yourself why there are rules in other sports that forbid this, football, hockey, soccer, baseball, etc.
It's also comical how you folks even try to take the moral high ground, like your doing the rest of the kids a favor by having them play up against your kid who's playing down.
For the moron that use's the analogy "plenty of 8th and 9th graders played up on JV or Varsity and they didn't complain" to justify his actions.
Try hard to comprehend here, when an 8th or 9th grader makes a decision to play JV or Varsity they are doing it because they want to. Get it? The player made the choice to play up. In your world, YOU make the choice for all the kids that want to play on age for them, and force them to play up against your kid who plays down. You can call it whining, or whatever you want. It's just not right and everyone knows it.
Personally, my son is on age and physically mature for his age, he can handle your hold back anytime he needs to. However, many kids cannot. You and your kind, like your friends in MD and PA are a stain on this sport. As I have said many times before, the only way this stops is if US Lacrosse steps up and demands proof of age for any tournament or showcase they insure.
You obviously miss the point. The university should be concerned that Caputo is ALWAYS representing the University and his actions are accountable.
Stop it. Your son got cut amongst the best competition on the Island. Move on. There is separation between probably the top 5-10. But 11- 60 is on parity. There are kids that made it to Blue Chip that didn't get to pride games. Stop crying that your son got a raw deal.
Does not mean anything that Caputo's kids play on 91. Just Saying.
STOP!
WHY ? This years team should be called Brine Extreme
That's awesome!
Seeing how many of Extreme's players should be 2017's, I wouldn't be spouting off too much... Please don't say it's not true, and don't worry I won't lower myself to listing them here. Not their fault they were held back. The fact is, put those kids on the 91 2017 team where they belong and it makes an Extreme difference... Sorry.
I w i l l t y p e s l o w s o y o u u n d e r s t a n d
A p l a y e r b o r n i n 1 9 9 9 o r 1 9 9 8 o r 2 0 0 0 t h a t i s s c h e d u l e d t o g r a d u a t e h i g h s c h o o l i n 2 0 1 8 i s a l e g a l 2 0 1 8 p l a y e r ......n o d i f f e r e n t i f h e i s t a l l e r f a s t e r o r b e t t e r s k i l l e d, i f h e i s g r a d u a t i n g i n 2 0 1 8 h e i s a 2 0 1 8
just to be clear, my son was born in 2000 and is a 2018 and plays for Express not 91.
Thanks for slowing down. So you think people who were born in 1998 belong in 2018? Might not be illegal but certainly is not where they belong. People born in three different years shouldn't be in same grade.
yes, I think that any kid that is graduating in 2018 should play on a 2018 team, there were 8th and 9th graders playing varsity lacrosse this year across long island - that is a 5 or potentially 6 year age difference and I doubt that they were complaining about the age difference. they just played
I really love hearing the justifications of why it's "OK" that you're gaming the system at others expense. I.E. Cheating. Do you ever ask yourself why there are rules in other sports that forbid this, football, hockey, soccer, baseball, etc.
It's also comical how you folks even try to take the moral high ground, like your doing the rest of the kids a favor by having them play up against your kid who's playing down.
For the moron that use's the analogy "plenty of 8th and 9th graders played up on JV or Varsity and they didn't complain" to justify his actions.
Try hard to comprehend here, when an 8th or 9th grader makes a decision to play JV or Varsity they are doing it because they want to. Get it? The player made the choice to play up. In your world, YOU make the choice for all the kids that want to play on age for them, and force them to play up against your kid who plays down. You can call it whining, or whatever you want. It's just not right and everyone knows it.
Personally, my son is on age and physically mature for his age, he can handle your hold back anytime he needs to. However, many kids cannot. You and your kind, like your friends in MD and PA are a stain on this sport. As I have said many times before, the only way this stops is if US Lacrosse steps up and demands proof of age for any tournament or showcase they insure.
you are getting worked up at the wrong person here, My opinion is that any kid graduating in 2018 should play in 2018, My kid was born in 2000 and is the "correct" age for a 2018 and he plays on a 2018 team, I would never hold him back to get an advantage in lacrosse - I just don't care what age any other kid is as long as he is also graduating in 2018. I want my son to compete against him, this is who is going to be recruited against and I know the college coaches don't care how old he or any other kid is only what year he is graduating.
All I am saying is IT IS NOT CHEATING to be on a 2018 team if you are scheduled to graduate high school in 2018 - it might not be fair and it might be taking advantage within the rules but in no way is it cheating.
Seeing how many of Extreme's players should be 2017's, I wouldn't be spouting off too much... Please don't say it's not true, and don't worry I won't lower myself to listing them here. Not their fault they were held back. The fact is, put those kids on the 91 2017 team where they belong and it makes an Extreme difference... Sorry.
I w i l l t y p e s l o w s o y o u u n d e r s t a n d
A p l a y e r b o r n i n 1 9 9 9 o r 1 9 9 8 o r 2 0 0 0 t h a t i s s c h e d u l e d t o g r a d u a t e h i g h s c h o o l i n 2 0 1 8 i s a l e g a l 2 0 1 8 p l a y e r ......n o d i f f e r e n t i f h e i s t a l l e r f a s t e r o r b e t t e r s k i l l e d, i f h e i s g r a d u a t i n g i n 2 0 1 8 h e i s a 2 0 1 8
just to be clear, my son was born in 2000 and is a 2018 and plays for Express not 91.
Thanks for slowing down. So you think people who were born in 1998 belong in 2018? Might not be illegal but certainly is not where they belong. People born in three different years shouldn't be in same grade.
yes, I think that any kid that is graduating in 2018 should play on a 2018 team, there were 8th and 9th graders playing varsity lacrosse this year across long island - that is a 5 or potentially 6 year age difference and I doubt that they were complaining about the age difference. they just played
I really love hearing the justifications of why it's "OK" that you're gaming the system at others expense. I.E. Cheating. Do you ever ask yourself why there are rules in other sports that forbid this, football, hockey, soccer, baseball, etc.
It's also comical how you folks even try to take the moral high ground, like your doing the rest of the kids a favor by having them play up against your kid who's playing down.
For the moron that use's the analogy "plenty of 8th and 9th graders played up on JV or Varsity and they didn't complain" to justify his actions.
Try hard to comprehend here, when an 8th or 9th grader makes a decision to play JV or Varsity they are doing it because they want to. Get it? The player made the choice to play up. In your world, YOU make the choice for all the kids that want to play on age for them, and force them to play up against your kid who plays down. You can call it whining, or whatever you want. It's just not right and everyone knows it.
Personally, my son is on age and physically mature for his age, he can handle your hold back anytime he needs to. However, many kids cannot. You and your kind, like your friends in MD and PA are a stain on this sport. As I have said many times before, the only way this stops is if US Lacrosse steps up and demands proof of age for any tournament or showcase they insure.
you are getting worked up at the wrong person here, My opinion is that any kid graduating in 2018 should play in 2018, My kid was born in 2000 and is the "correct" age for a 2018 and he plays on a 2018 team, I would never hold him back to get an advantage in lacrosse - I just don't care what age any other kid is as long as he is also graduating in 2018. I want my son to compete against him, this is who is going to be recruited against and I know the college coaches don't care how old he or any other kid is only what year he is graduating.
All I am saying is IT IS NOT CHEATING to be on a 2018 team if you are scheduled to graduate high school in 2018 - it might not be fair and it might be taking advantage within the rules but in no way is it cheating.
Very well said. Still cheating!!!
I guess the governing bodies in Soccer, Football, Baseball, Hockey and all the other sports are idiots too... You can't win the argument so you call the guy and idiot. Amazing.
I guess the governing bodies in Soccer, Football, Baseball, Hockey and all the other sports are idiots too... You can't win the argument so you call the guy and idiot. Amazing.
And to boot...he can't spell either...
Guys if they are playing within the rules mandated by the governing body of lacrosse then its not cheating. Its that plain and simple. Once lacrosse determines that age based teams are the way to go (which in my opinion they should be) then if a player who is born in a different year plays then its cheating.
I guess the governing bodies in Soccer, Football, Baseball, Hockey and all the other sports are idiots too... You can't win the argument so you call the guy and idiot. Amazing.
I know nothing about soccer so I can't comment
Hockey and Baseball drafts are age based so it makes sense for them to be age based on the youth level
Football colleges recruit players on their high school teams not club teams so it is basically grade based
AAU basketball is grade based not age based
so at the end of the day I think it makes the most sense to figure out what pot of gold at the end of the rainbow you are going for. In lacrosse the pot of gold is a spot on a D1 lacrosse team, they recruit by grade and that is why kids need to play with their grade and not their age.
not sure who the "your an idiot" comment was for but I don't think anybody is an idiot for having an opinion
You obviously miss the point. The university should be concerned that Caputo is ALWAYS representing the University and his actions are accountable.
Stop it. Your son got cut amongst the best competition on the Island. Move on. There is separation between probably the top 5-10. But 11- 60 is on parity. There are kids that made it to Blue Chip that didn't get to pride games. Stop crying that your son got a raw deal.
Does not mean anything that Caputo's kids play on 91. Just Saying.
STOP!
WHY ? This years team should be called Brine Extreme
That's awesome!
... and last year would have been Brine Turtles?... there were a lot more turtles on the North team last year than there are extreme players on the Long Island team this year.
... in my opinion, you are all crazy....
What topic do you feel is the bigger problem preventing truth, justice and the American way in the 2018 lacrosse world?
1 - Nepotism/Favoritism
2 - Reclassification/Holdbacks
3 - Other
It's "you're am idiot"!
Little ironic I have to point that out to you!
Idiot!
I guess the governing bodies in Soccer, Football, Baseball, Hockey and all the other sports are idiots too... You can't win the argument so you call the guy and idiot. Amazing.
I know nothing about soccer so I can't comment
Hockey and Baseball drafts are age based so it makes sense for them to be age based on the youth level
Football colleges recruit players on their high school teams not club teams so it is basically grade based
AAU basketball is grade based not age based
so at the end of the day I think it makes the most sense to figure out what pot of gold at the end of the rainbow you are going for. In lacrosse the pot of gold is a spot on a D1 lacrosse team, they recruit by grade and that is why kids need to play with their grade and not their age.
not sure who the "your an idiot" comment was for but I don't think anybody is an idiot for having an opinion
AAU basketball is done by age.
I guess the governing bodies in Soccer, Football, Baseball, Hockey and all the other sports are idiots too... You can't win the argument so you call the guy and idiot. Amazing.
I know nothing about soccer so I can't comment
Hockey and Baseball drafts are age based so it makes sense for them to be age based on the youth level
Football colleges recruit players on their high school teams not club teams so it is basically grade based
AAU basketball is grade based not age based
so at the end of the day I think it makes the most sense to figure out what pot of gold at the end of the rainbow you are going for. In lacrosse the pot of gold is a spot on a D1 lacrosse team, they recruit by grade and that is why kids need to play with their grade and not their age.
not sure who the "your an idiot" comment was for but I don't think anybody is an idiot for having an opinion
AAU basketball is done by age.
How long before there is a Danny Almonte like incident?
How about the kid who just has not quite matured educationally/ emotionally & that kids also plays lacrosse. The kid is not holding his own in school. Then what let your kid drown in school so no one calls him a cheater in LAX. There are many parents who chose to hold kids back due to educational issue that play no sports at all, no one cares about them because who are they competing with?
It is cheating if you hold your kid back 8th grade.
If you hold your kid out of kindergarten because he / she is not mature enough, I have no issue. If you hold your kid back in first grade because he/she is not ready to move on academically, I have no issue.
If you hold him/her back in 8th grade, and you are doing so to give him/her an edge athletically, you ARE cheating.But good luck to you nonetheless.
It's "you're am idiot"!
Little ironic I have to point that out to you!
Idiot!
i do think where all is idiots
I think most people agree that hold back for a kid with educational difficulties is acceptable and warranted. The school is involved and helps the parents make that decision. Most of those happen in 1st grade or before, very rarely after...
But a hold back going to a private school that your kid needed to test into? Probably not so much.
Then you are a worse parent than originally thought and lacrosse is the least of your worries. Those should get off this board and get him the help he needs.
I bet some may be upset and would take issue if the #10 ranked student wanted to be held back a year take all the same course again just so they would get into Stanford. I bet the #1, 2, 3 student may have an issue with it.
I am quite sure the science fairs of the world take issue at a child who may be misrepresenting themselves.
How about the kid who just has not quite matured educationally/ emotionally & that kids also plays lacrosse. The kid is not holding his own in school. Then what let your kid drown in school so no one calls him a cheater in LAX. There are many parents who chose to hold kids back due to educational issue that play no sports at all, no one cares about them because who are they competing with?
It is cheating if you hold your kid back 8th grade.
If you hold your kid out of kindergarten because he / she is not mature enough, I have no issue. If you hold your kid back in first grade because he/she is not ready to move on academically, I have no issue.
If you hold him/her back in 8th grade, and you are doing so to give him/her an edge athletically, you ARE cheating.But good luck to you nonetheless.
It's "you're am idiot"!
Little ironic I have to point that out to you!
Idiot!
I think it is "you are an idiot."
One consonant blew your whole argument!
Then you are a worse parent than originally thought and lacrosse is the least of your worries. Those should get off this board and get him the help he needs.
I bet some may be upset and would take issue if the #10 ranked student wanted to be held back a year take all the same course again just so they would get into Stanford. I bet the #1, 2, 3 student may have an issue with it.
I am quite sure the science fairs of the world take issue at a child who may be misrepresenting themselves.
How about the kid who just has not quite matured educationally/ emotionally & that kids also plays lacrosse. The kid is not holding his own in school. Then what let your kid drown in school so no one calls him a cheater in LAX. There are many parents who chose to hold kids back due to educational issue that play no sports at all, no one cares about them because who are they competing with?
It is cheating if you hold your kid back 8th grade.
If you hold your kid out of kindergarten because he / she is not mature enough, I have no issue. If you hold your kid back in first grade because he/she is not ready to move on academically, I have no issue.
If you hold him/her back in 8th grade, and you are doing so to give him/her an edge athletically, you ARE cheating.But good luck to you nonetheless.
How do I hold my son back in 8th grade? Seems like a no brainer. What is best way to do this?
Then you are a worse parent than originally thought and lacrosse is the least of your worries. Those should get off this board and get him the help he needs.
I bet some may be upset and would take issue if the #10 ranked student wanted to be held back a year take all the same course again just so they would get into Stanford. I bet the #1, 2, 3 student may have an issue with it.
I am quite sure the science fairs of the world take issue at a child who may be misrepresenting themselves.
How about the kid who just has not quite matured educationally/ emotionally & that kids also plays lacrosse. The kid is not holding his own in school. Then what let your kid drown in school so no one calls him a cheater in LAX. There are many parents who chose to hold kids back due to educational issue that play no sports at all, no one cares about them because who are they competing with?
It is cheating if you hold your kid back 8th grade.
If you hold your kid out of kindergarten because he / she is not mature enough, I have no issue. If you hold your kid back in first grade because he/she is not ready to move on academically, I have no issue.
If you hold him/her back in 8th grade, and you are doing so to give him/her an edge athletically, you ARE cheating.But good luck to you nonetheless.
How do I hold my son back in 8th grade? Seems like a no brainer. What is best way to do this?
Just fail everything in school! Then .....viola....you are reclassified. No you can play down worry free after summer school!
Does anybody agree with this. It's off a Maryland clubs web-site and wasn't sure if it's correct.
Is your son U9, U11, U13 or U15?
2013 - 2014 Season
U15 - Birthdates Sept 1, 1998 - Aug 31 2000
U13 - Birthdates Sept 1, 2000 - Aug 31 2002
U11 - Birthdates Sept 1, 2002 - Aug 31 2004
U9 - Birthdates Sept 1, 2004 - Aug 31 2006
I guess the governing bodies in Soccer, Football, Baseball, Hockey and all the other sports are idiots too... You can't win the argument so you call the guy and idiot. Amazing.
I know nothing about soccer so I can't comment
Hockey and Baseball drafts are age based so it makes sense for them to be age based on the youth level
Football colleges recruit players on their high school teams not club teams so it is basically grade based
AAU basketball is grade based not age based
so at the end of the day I think it makes the most sense to figure out what pot of gold at the end of the rainbow you are going for. In lacrosse the pot of gold is a spot on a D1 lacrosse team, they recruit by grade and that is why kids need to play with their grade and not their age.
not sure who the "your an idiot" comment was for but I don't think anybody is an idiot for having an opinion
AAU basketball is done by age.
the below is off the AAU web site so it appears they go by age and have limits to how old you can be while still being allowed to play down
An athlete is eligible to play down a grade provided they meet the requirements
listed in the chart below.
AGE REQUIREMENTS TO PLAY DOWN A GRADE DIVISION
Grade as of Oct. 1st, 2013 Play Down Grade
Birthdate
Requirements
12th Grade 11th Grade born on or after 9/1/1996
11th Grade 10th Grade born on or after 9/1/1997
10th Grade 9th Grade born on or after 9/1/1998
9th Grade 8th Grade born on or after 9/1/1999
8th Grade 7th Grade born on or after9/1/2000
7th Grade 6th Grade born on or after 9/1/2001
6th Grade 5th Grade born on or after 9/1/2002
5th Grade 4th Grade born on or after 9/1/2003
4th Grade 3rd Grade born on or after 9/1/2004
3rd Grade 2nd Grade born on or after 9/1/2005
*Proof of grade and age must be available for review, by an AAU designee
at all AAU sanctioned competitions, if requested. If said information is not
available the team is subject to removal from the competition.*
Does anybody agree with this. It's off a Maryland clubs web-site and wasn't sure if it's correct.
Is your son U9, U11, U13 or U15?
2013 - 2014 Season
U15 - Birthdates Sept 1, 1998 - Aug 31 2000
U13 - Birthdates Sept 1, 2000 - Aug 31 2002
U11 - Birthdates Sept 1, 2002 - Aug 31 2004
U9 - Birthdates Sept 1, 2004 - Aug 31 2006
That is correct and consistent with us lax guidelines. what reason would there be to disagree?
Big tournament next week at Rutgers-
Extreme, express, dukes, west coast stars, messa fresh and a few others at Adrenaline.
Lots of colleges to be attending (not sure if any will look at 2018) but this will be a great way to start the season in earnest.
Good luck to all
Big tournament next week at Rutgers-
Extreme, express, dukes, west coast stars, messa fresh and a few others at Adrenaline.
Lots of colleges to be attending (not sure if any will look at 2018) but this will be a great way to start the season in earnest.
Good luck to all
Agree! Let's go for a LI finals, it will be a tough battle getting there though!
Best middle school lax game yesterday, gelinas vs nessaquake both were undefeated and played like it. very heavily attended by parents all of whom were pleasant to be around.
many terps kids, some team li kids some 91 kids.
In the end gelinas won but those smith-town kids never gave up..
Some really strong players on both teams, great game to watch.
Best middle school lax game yesterday, gelinas vs nessaquake both were undefeated and played like it. very heavily attended by parents all of whom were pleasant to be around.
many terps kids, some team li kids some 91 kids.
In the end gelinas won but those smith-town kids never gave up..
Some really strong players on both teams, great game to watch.
With only 1 ref I was afraid the game was going to get out of hand.. Almost did. Glad the kids kept it together and played their hearts out. Great game, both teams had a lot of talent! Looking forward to see them in High School ball.
Best middle school lax game yesterday, gelinas vs nessaquake both were undefeated and played like it. very heavily attended by parents all of whom were pleasant to be around.
many terps kids, some team li kids some 91 kids.
In the end gelinas won but those smith-town kids never gave up..
Some really strong players on both teams, great game to watch.
With only 1 ref I was afraid the game was going to get out of hand.. Almost did. Glad the kids kept it together and played their hearts out. Great game, both teams had a lot of talent! Looking forward to see them in High School ball.
what H.S. Teams do these schools feed to ?
Best middle school lax game yesterday, gelinas vs nessaquake both were undefeated and played like it. very heavily attended by parents all of whom were pleasant to be around.
many terps kids, some team li kids some 91 kids.
In the end gelinas won but those smith-town kids never gave up..
Some really strong players on both teams, great game to watch.
With only 1 ref I was afraid the game was going to get out of hand.. Almost did. Glad the kids kept it together and played their hearts out. Great game, both teams had a lot of talent! Looking forward to see them in High School ball.
what H.S. Teams do these schools feed to ?
Gelinas to Ward Meville and Nesaquake to Smithtown East
For the Nesaquake 8th graders that was their 1st loss in 2 seasons
Extreme lost today at the Brine
Best middle school lax game yesterday, gelinas vs nessaquake both were undefeated and played like it. very heavily attended by parents all of whom were pleasant to be around.
many terps kids, some team li kids some 91 kids.
In the end gelinas won but those smith-town kids never gave up..
Some really strong players on both teams, great game to watch.
With only 1 ref I was afraid the game was going to get out of hand.. Almost did. Glad the kids kept it together and played their hearts out. Great game, both teams had a lot of talent! Looking forward to see them in High School ball.
what H.S. Teams do these schools feed to ?
Gelinas to Ward Meville and Nesaquake to Smithtown East
For the Nesaquake 8th graders that was their 1st loss in 2 seasons
then why are they playing in B divisions at tournaments ?
Please name the tournaments when the 3V or Team Smithtown 8th grade teams played in a B bracket.
ok. Team Smithtown East is playing in 8th grade B division in both Forsberg and LI Laxfest. Are they 7th grade team ?
Best middle school lax game yesterday, gelinas vs nessaquake both were undefeated and played like it. very heavily attended by parents all of whom were pleasant to be around.
many terps kids, some team li kids some 91 kids.
In the end gelinas won but those smith-town kids never gave up..
Some really strong players on both teams, great game to watch.
With only 1 ref I was afraid the game was going to get out of hand.. Almost did. Glad the kids kept it together and played their hearts out. Great game, both teams had a lot of talent! Looking forward to see them in High School ball.
what H.S. Teams do these schools feed to ?
Gelinas to Ward Meville and Nesaquake to Smithtown East
For the Nesaquake 8th graders that was their 1st loss in 2 seasons
then why are they playing in B divisions at tournaments ?
What makes you think that all the 8th graders at Nesaquake play for team smithtown? The players I know are on Express/91/TLI/etc..
ok. Team Smithtown East is playing in 8th grade B division in both Forsberg and LI Laxfest. Are they 7th grade team ?
That's the U13 team, and the U15 team is playing in JV B.
Best middle school lax game yesterday, gelinas vs nessaquake both were undefeated and played like it. very heavily attended by parents all of whom were pleasant to be around.
many terps kids, some team li kids some 91 kids.
In the end gelinas won but those smith-town kids never gave up..
Some really strong players on both teams, great game to watch.
With only 1 ref I was afraid the game was going to get out of hand.. Almost did. Glad the kids kept it together and played their hearts out. Great game, both teams had a lot of talent! Looking forward to see them in High School ball.
what H.S. Teams do these schools feed to ?
Gelinas to Ward Meville and Nesaquake to Smithtown East
For the Nesaquake 8th graders that was their 1st loss in 2 seasons
then why are they playing in B divisions at tournaments ?
What makes you think that all the 8th graders at Nesaquake play for team smithtown? The players I know are on Express/91/TLI/etc..
You are right. Several play both. Same can be said about 7th graders at each school but throw legacy and HDD in as well.
ok. Team Smithtown East is playing in 8th grade B division in both Forsberg and LI Laxfest. Are they 7th grade team ?
Actually they are a u13 team of 6th and 7th graders. Understandable that you would not know that by just reading a schedule.
I think the point by the original poster was that there has been a nice friendly rivalry the past 2seasons between Gelinas and Nesaquake with each team winning one game. Kids on both teams played their hearts out both years. Many quality players on both sides. It will be fun to watch the boys from each team as they move along the next few years in Section XI A
1-1-1 for Extreme this weekend.
ok. Team Smithtown East is playing in 8th grade B division in both Forsberg and LI Laxfest. Are they 7th grade team ?
That's the U13 team, and the U15 team is playing in JV B.
kudos to you guys for playing up. Always a good idea to challenge yourselves as long as the bracket is a bit better then staying in the A bracket of your right grade.
2018 terps played yesterday at forsberg.
Beat, Norhtport JV, smith-town JV and some other JV team.
Lost in championship to 2017 outlaws. It was a decent game, but the terps just couldn't match size and strength of outlaw team...
2018 terps played yesterday at forsberg.
Beat, Norhtport JV, smith-town JV and some other JV team.
Lost in championship to 2017 outlaws. It was a decent game, but the terps just couldn't match size and strength of outlaw team...
What is 2018 Express North? Is that a combo team or is it the same as terps? Saw them listed at fl$ and Laxfest? No big deal, just wondering...
2018 terps played yesterday at forsberg.
Beat, Norhtport JV, smith-town JV and some other JV team.
Lost in championship to 2017 outlaws. It was a decent game, but the terps just couldn't match size and strength of outlaw team...
What is 2018 Express North? Is that a combo team or is it the same as terps? Saw them listed at fl$ and Laxfest? No big deal, just wondering...
No idea. Thinking West Chester
2018 terps played yesterday at forsberg.
Beat, Norhtport JV, smith-town JV and some other JV team.
Lost in championship to 2017 outlaws. It was a decent game, but the terps just couldn't match size and strength of outlaw team...
What is 2018 Express North? Is that a combo team or is it the same as terps? Saw them listed at fl$ and Laxfest? No big deal, just wondering...
Huh? 'North'?
2018 terps played yesterday at forsberg.
Beat, Norhtport JV, smith-town JV and some other JV team.
Lost in championship to 2017 outlaws. It was a decent game, but the terps just couldn't match size and strength of outlaw team...
What is 2018 Express North? Is that a combo team or is it the same as terps? Saw them listed at fl$ and Laxfest? No big deal, just wondering...
Different team - terms are not going to either of those tournaments
You do know the 2017 Outlaws team is made up primarily of kids from the Gladiators... Including the head coach...
A really solid team
You do know the 2017 Outlaws team is made up primarily of kids from the Gladiators... Including the head coach...
A really solid team
Arini?
Please name the tournaments when the 3V or Team Smithtown 8th grade teams played in a B bracket.
3V 2018 has not played in an "A" bracket in 2 or 3 years.
You do know the 2017 Outlaws team is made up primarily of kids from the Gladiators... Including the head coach...
A really solid team
Looked like there were a number of Ward Melville kids on the Outlaws 2017 Team.
2018 terps played yesterday at forsberg.
Beat, Norhtport JV, smith-town JV and some other JV team.
Lost in championship to 2017 outlaws. It was a decent game, but the terps just couldn't match size and strength of outlaw team...
What is 2018 Express North? Is that a combo team or is it the same as terps? Saw them listed at fl$ and Laxfest? No big deal, just wondering...
Is it Hudson Valley Express?
Big weekend at adrenaline...
any thoughts on whether the 2018 group will actually have college coaches sniffing around?
Big weekend at adrenaline...
any thoughts on whether the 2018 group will actually have college coaches sniffing around?
I would say yes.
I know the Turtles were the first with individual team websites. But is this becoming the norm for teams.
For example:
http://wwww.jestersblack2018.com/home.html
Not sure how I feel about this I think if you are on the team it is a great thing but if you are within the organization you may be questioning "where is my site".
If it is a team which the boys have played together for a while and the parents all know each other great. If a parent has the expertise to help coordinate then even better.
I can also see the have and the have nots question this. Just like the B vs A teams. Why does the A team do this why does the A team do that. Why, because the coaches and parents help along the way.
I am sure if a team can do something the organization will let them and be happy especially if they don't have to do it.
Not sure how I feel about this I think if you are on the team it is a great thing but if you are within the organization you may be questioning "where is my site".
If it is a team which the boys have played together for a while and the parents all know each other great. If a parent has the expertise to help coordinate then even better.
I can also see the have and the have nots question this. Just like the B vs A teams. Why does the A team do this why does the A team do that. Why, because the coaches and parents help along the way.
I am sure if a team can do something the organization will let them and be happy especially if they don't have to do it.
By the way to many "w's"
www.jestersblack2018.com
How is Team 91 2018 Orange playing thus far this year? Just curious.
Their video from [lacrosse]'s a couple years ago is still my U11 kids favorite lacrosse video ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utVI6fXOkFYNot from LI or MD. Just a fan of beautiful lacrosse (especially when set to good tunes).
Not sure how I feel about this I think if you are on the team it is a great thing but if you are within the organization you may be questioning "where is my site".
If it is a team which the boys have played together for a while and the parents all know each other great. If a parent has the expertise to help coordinate then even better.
I can also see the have and the have nots question this. Just like the B vs A teams. Why does the A team do this why does the A team do that. Why, because the coaches and parents help along the way.
I am sure if a team can do something the organization will let them and be happy especially if they don't have to do it.
By the way to many "w's"
www.jestersblack2018.com Who writes the "news" section on that site? Based on the game summaries you would think their opponents had no impact on the outcome of some of those games.
fl$ has some teams at this level this weekend. BBL is nice club and should challenge fl$ and the Jesters for the championship.
Not sure how I feel about this I think if you are on the team it is a great thing but if you are within the organization you may be questioning "where is my site".
If it is a team which the boys have played together for a while and the parents all know each other great. If a parent has the expertise to help coordinate then even better.
I can also see the have and the have nots question this. Just like the B vs A teams. Why does the A team do this why does the A team do that. Why, because the coaches and parents help along the way.
I am sure if a team can do something the organization will let them and be happy especially if they don't have to do it.
By the way to many "w's"
www.jestersblack2018.com Who writes the "news" section on that site? Based on the game summaries you would think their opponents had no impact on the outcome of some of those games.
Mike Lupica .
ST@U!
My guess at 2019 bracket it will be between 91 white jesters GC and fl$.
Please name the tournaments when the 3V or Team Smithtown 8th grade teams played in a B bracket.
3V 2018 has not played in an "A" bracket in 2 or 3 years.
2018 Ward Meville is in A at LI LAX Fest
Gladiators was primarily made up of Smithtown and a few Ward Melville kids.
Are the Gladiators still a club? I saw them last year at fl$.
Looks like this weekend should be some good competition between BBL, fl$, WANTAGH and Jesters.
Are the Gladiators still a club? I saw them last year at fl$.
They sleep with the fishes...
2018 terps played yesterday at forsberg.
Beat, Norhtport JV, smith-town JV and some other JV team.
Lost in championship to 2017 outlaws. It was a decent game, but the terps just couldn't match size and strength of outlaw team...
What is 2018 Express North? Is that a combo team or is it the same as terps? Saw them listed at fl$ and Laxfest? No big deal, just wondering...
Is it Hudson Valley Express?
No - team that used to be part of Superstar - was Superstar 365.
Outlaws 2017? Dirty team. Shame
2018 terps played yesterday at forsberg.
Beat, Norhtport JV, smith-town JV and some other JV team.
Lost in championship to 2017 outlaws. It was a decent game, but the terps just couldn't match size and strength of outlaw team...
What is 2018 Express North? Is that a combo team or is it the same as terps? Saw them listed at fl$ and Laxfest? No big deal, just wondering...
Is it Hudson Valley Express?
No - team that used to be part of Superstar - was Superstar 365.
Yes. Saw them out at fl$ and every kid had a 365 helmet.
You do know the 2017 Outlaws team is made up primarily of kids from the Gladiators... Including the head coach...
A really solid team
Arini?
2017 Outlaws are most last years kids and some gladiators, Mike Brennan is head coach with Coach from Gladiators assisting, Very strong team. Not sure how roster works though with all extra kids?
Why is Outlaws 2017 team even being discussed on 2018 page?
Why is Outlaws 2017 team even being discussed on 2018 page?
Because they just won the 2018 division. Look up a couple of posts and you will see it.
You do know the 2017 Outlaws team is made up primarily of kids from the Gladiators... Including the head coach...
A really solid team
Arini?
2017 Outlaws are most last years kids and some gladiators, Mike Brennan is head coach with Coach from Gladiators assisting, Very strong team. Not sure how roster works though with all extra kids?
Who is arini? Is he from the benchwarmers?
Why is Outlaws 2017 team even being discussed on 2018 page?
Because they just won the 2018 division. Look up a couple of posts and you will see it.
No they didn't. They beat 2018 Terps who were playing up in a 2017 division. Very different from Outlaws playing down to win.
Why is Outlaws 2017 team even being discussed on 2018 page?
Because they just won the 2018 division. Look up a couple of posts and you will see it.
They won the JV division not the 2018
Any results from Platinum Cup today?
Any results from Platinum Cup today?
Extreme went 3-0 yesterday and won first game this morning.
Terps went 2-1 yesterday (Lost to Dukes HHH 8-5). This morning's result not yet posted.
http://www.adrln.com/events/2014-platinum-cup/scoring/
Why is Outlaws 2017 team even being discussed on 2018 page?
Because they just won the 2018 division. Look up a couple of posts and you will see it.
Get your info correct. They beat the Terps who were playing up in the 2017 JV division.
Extreme beat the Terps in OT today at Adrenaline for the Championship. Way to represent the island. Kudos to both clubs. #strongislandlax
Terps went 2-1 on Saturday losing to Dukes. On Sunday in playoffs beat laxachusets (better team than expected) and Dukes (always great team and a great game).
In finals Extreme vs Terps. Close game with Terps leading for most. Extreme came back and tied it up. they won in overtime. Great competitive game with very good parent behavior...
Refs made a couple of really bad calls in finals, but that is part of lax at this level.
thanks for a great well run event.
any know who won MVP 1st State?
I see it was Crabs v Leading Edge in the finals but no score was posted.
Terps went 2-1 on Saturday losing to Dukes. On Sunday in playoffs beat laxachusets (better team than expected) and Dukes (always great team and a great game).
In finals Extreme vs Terps. Close game with Terps leading for most. Extreme came back and tied it up. they won in overtime. Great competitive game with very good parent behavior...
Refs made a couple of really bad calls in finals, but that is part of lax at this level.
thanks for a great well run event.
I think that in the 2018 division the big winner was skill over size, I think 91 and Express where the two smallest (and probably youngest) teams in the tournament and faced each other in the finals. Congratulations to Long Island lacrosse
Terps went 2-1 on Saturday losing to Dukes. On Sunday in playoffs beat laxachusets (better team than expected) and Dukes (always great team and a great game).
In finals Extreme vs Terps. Close game with Terps leading for most. Extreme came back and tied it up. they won in overtime. Great competitive game with very good parent behavior...
Refs made a couple of really bad calls in finals, but that is part of lax at this level.
thanks for a great well run event.
I think that in the 2018 division the big winner was skill over size, I think 91 and Express where the two smallest (and probably youngest) teams in the tournament and faced each other in the finals. Congratulations to Long Island lacrosse
Exprees North is Super Star 365. How are they both playing in 2018 A Laxfest next week??
Congrats to extreme for going 6 and 0
Crabs go 5-1 and win MVP Blue Hen
Team 91 Orange 2018 had a great showing down in Maryland this weekend - went 6-0 and won U15 A division - way to represent Long Island lacrosse
Why didn't they play in the U15AA division?
Team 91 Orange 2018 had a great showing down in Maryland this weekend - went 6-0 and won U15 A division - way to represent Long Island lacrosse
Why didn't they play in the U15AA division?
Team 91 Orange 2018 had a great showing down in Maryland this weekend - went 6-0 and won U15 A division - way to represent Long Island lacrosse
because they are a U14 team and the #2 team in their own organization and unlike many other areas of the country LI 2018 teams are U14 not U14 - don't be a hater
Why is Outlaws 2017 team even being discussed on 2018 page?
Because they just won the 2018 division. Look up a couple of posts and you will see it.
Get your info correct. They beat the Terps who were playing up in the 2017 JV division.
JV is not the 2017 team.
No disrespect here, but was the 2018 Tribe team that played at fl$ the same team with the same kids that played at Forsberg? Seems liked they killed it at Forsberg and struggled a bit at fl$.
No disrespect here, but was the 2018 Tribe team that played at fl$ the same team with the same kids that played at Forsberg? Seems liked they killed it at Forsberg and struggled a bit at fl$.
Same team. They are very good team. Much tougher schedule at fl$ and Laxfest.
No disrespect here, but was the 2018 Tribe team that played at fl$ the same team with the same kids that played at Forsberg? Seems liked they killed it at Forsberg and struggled a bit at fl$.
Same team went 2 and 2. They lost to the Express North which is really the old 365 Super Stars and Jesters Black both good teams. Express North made it to finals. Wouldn't say they struggled just a bit unlucky. If you watched the Jesters game Tribe must of dominated possession 3 to 1 and kept hitting post or missing open shots. Jesters capitalized on their opportunities. Second half was a much tighter game.
No disrespect here, but was the 2018 Tribe team that played at fl$ the same team with the same kids that played at Forsberg? Seems liked they killed it at Forsberg and struggled a bit at fl$.
Same team. They are very good team. Much tougher schedule at fl$ and Laxfest.
Thanks, very strong team to be able to compete against travel clubs. Best of luck the rest of the way.
The following response is from a Parent of a Jesters Black 2018 Player:
To be fair to the Wantagh Tribe, they are a good team. My son has played against them on Town and School Lacrosse Teams. The program does a nice job keeping the kids that play together in school, playing the summer.
With that said, it seems this poster has implied that the Tribe should have won the game against the Jesters. I find this response to be somewhat odd when the final score was 10-2 in favor of the Jesters. The Tribe were kept scoreless in the first half, and, to be clear, they hit ONE crossbar on an excellent shot by a dodging midfielder from the top of the box. Also, what makes the poster believe that if the shots, that were off target, were on the goal, then they would have been goals.
To say that the Jesters were lucky to win the game would be unfair to the Jesters players and a disservice to the Wantagh Tribe players.
No disrespect here, but was the 2018 Tribe team that played at fl$ the same team with the same kids that played at Forsberg? Seems liked they killed it at Forsberg and struggled a bit at fl$.
Same team went 2 and 2. They lost to the Express North which is really the old 365 Super Stars and Jesters Black both good teams. Express North made it to finals. Wouldn't say they struggled just a bit unlucky. If you watched the Jesters game Tribe must of dominated possession 3 to 1 and kept hitting post or missing open shots. Jesters capitalized on their opportunities. Second half was a much tighter game.
Too bad they don't give points for missing open shots and getting close to getting it in the net.
No disrespect here, but was the 2018 Tribe team that played at fl$ the same team with the same kids that played at Forsberg? Seems liked they killed it at Forsberg and struggled a bit at fl$.
Same team went 2 and 2. They lost to the Express North which is really the old 365 Super Stars and Jesters Black both good teams. Express North made it to finals. Wouldn't say they struggled just a bit unlucky. If you watched the Jesters game Tribe must of dominated possession 3 to 1 and kept hitting post or missing open shots. Jesters capitalized on their opportunities. Second half was a much tighter game.
Too bad they don't give points for missing open shots and getting close to getting it in the net.
Game was 10-2 vs the Jesters. That's a lot posts. Tribe is a nice B team and can compete with some A teams. Just lock off their two threats and you'll do well.
The following response is from a Parent of a Jesters Black 2018 Player:
To be fair to the Wantagh Tribe, they are a good team. My son has played against them on Town and School Lacrosse Teams. The program does a nice job keeping the kids that play together in school, playing the summer.
With that said, it seems this poster has implied that the Tribe should have won the game against the Jesters. I find this response to be somewhat odd when the final score was 10-2 in favor of the Jesters. The Tribe were kept scoreless in the first half, and, to be clear, they hit ONE crossbar on an excellent shot by a dodging midfielder from the top of the box. Also, what makes the poster believe that if the shots, that were off target, were on the goal, then they would have been goals.
To say that the Jesters were lucky to win the game would be unfair to the Jesters players and a disservice to the Wantagh Tribe players.
Tribe is a very good team, but poster above is on target. While, the tribe had some extended time with the ball, they just passed it around the outside and took very low percentage shots. Jesters defense and goalie shut them out in the 1st half and Jesters offense scored early and often. To give a more clear picture of the game, many of the Jester players that started that game did not play much, or in some cases any, of the second half.
No disrespect here, but was the 2018 Tribe team that played at fl$ the same team with the same kids that played at Forsberg? Seems liked they killed it at Forsberg and struggled a bit at fl$.
Same team went 2 and 2. They lost to the Express North which is really the old 365 Super Stars and Jesters Black both good teams. Express North made it to finals. Wouldn't say they struggled just a bit unlucky. If you watched the Jesters game Tribe must of dominated possession 3 to 1 and kept hitting post or missing open shots. Jesters capitalized on their opportunities. Second half was a much tighter game.
Too bad they don't give points for missing open shots and getting close to getting it in the net.
Game was 10-2 vs the Jesters. That's a lot posts. Tribe is a nice B team and can compete with some A teams. Just lock off their two threats and you'll do well.
Jester parent here too. Wantagh Tribe is solid team and give them credit for always playing in the A brackets. They certainly belong there. You get better by playing the best competition!
No disrespect here, but was the 2018 Tribe team that played at fl$ the same team with the same kids that played at Forsberg? Seems liked they killed it at Forsberg and struggled a bit at fl$.
Same team went 2 and 2. They lost to the Express North which is really the old 365 Super Stars and Jesters Black both good teams. Express North made it to finals. Wouldn't say they struggled just a bit unlucky. If you watched the Jesters game Tribe must of dominated possession 3 to 1 and kept hitting post or missing open shots. Jesters capitalized on their opportunities. Second half was a much tighter game.
Too bad they don't give points for missing open shots and getting close to getting it in the net.
Game was 10-2 vs the Jesters. That's a lot posts. Tribe is a nice B team and can compete with some A teams. Just lock off their two threats and you'll do well.
Jester parent here too. Wantagh Tribe is solid team and give them credit for always playing in the A brackets. They certainly belong there. You get better by playing the best competition!
Right on point!
The following response is from a Parent of a Jesters Black 2018 Player:
To be fair to the Wantagh Tribe, they are a good team. My son has played against them on Town and School Lacrosse Teams. The program does a nice job keeping the kids that play together in school, playing the summer.
With that said, it seems this poster has implied that the Tribe should have won the game against the Jesters. I find this response to be somewhat odd when the final score was 10-2 in favor of the Jesters. The Tribe were kept scoreless in the first half, and, to be clear, they hit ONE crossbar on an excellent shot by a dodging midfielder from the top of the box. Also, what makes the poster believe that if the shots, that were off target, were on the goal, then they would have been goals.
To say that the Jesters were lucky to win the game would be unfair to the Jesters players and a disservice to the Wantagh Tribe players.
Great post, well thought out, well written and sounds like it was on target - but I also understand the tribe poster, I myself was a couple of pipes and wide shots away from Jennifer Aniston but Brad Pitt capitalized on his opportunities and I didn't...but it was close
The following response is from a Parent of a Jesters Black 2018 Player:
To be fair to the Wantagh Tribe, they are a good team. My son has played against them on Town and School Lacrosse Teams. The program does a nice job keeping the kids that play together in school, playing the summer.
With that said, it seems this poster has implied that the Tribe should have won the game against the Jesters. I find this response to be somewhat odd when the final score was 10-2 in favor of the Jesters. The Tribe were kept scoreless in the first half, and, to be clear, they hit ONE crossbar on an excellent shot by a dodging midfielder from the top of the box. Also, what makes the poster believe that if the shots, that were off target, were on the goal, then they would have been goals.
To say that the Jesters were lucky to win the game would be unfair to the Jesters players and a disservice to the Wantagh Tribe players.
Funny because Jesters Black parents seem to use the same excuses when they lose a game
The following response is from a Parent of a Jesters Black 2018 Player:
To be fair to the Wantagh Tribe, they are a good team. My son has played against them on Town and School Lacrosse Teams. The program does a nice job keeping the kids that play together in school, playing the summer.
With that said, it seems this poster has implied that the Tribe should have won the game against the Jesters. I find this response to be somewhat odd when the final score was 10-2 in favor of the Jesters. The Tribe were kept scoreless in the first half, and, to be clear, they hit ONE crossbar on an excellent shot by a dodging midfielder from the top of the box. Also, what makes the poster believe that if the shots, that were off target, were on the goal, then they would have been goals.
To say that the Jesters were lucky to win the game would be unfair to the Jesters players and a disservice to the Wantagh Tribe players.
Funny because Jesters Black parents seem to use the same excuses when they lose a game
I've never seen hit 9 posts , shoulda won excuse before. You saying not original ?
Not affiliated with either the Jesters or Tribe. No one said the jesters were Lucky. they just said that the Jesters Capitalized on their opportunities and the Tribe didn't by missing the net or hitting posts. The poster didn't say the Tribe would have won. Two very good teams seen both play
The following response is from a Parent of a Jesters Black 2018 Player:
To be fair to the Wantagh Tribe, they are a good team. My son has played against them on Town and School Lacrosse Teams. The program does a nice job keeping the kids that play together in school, playing the summer.
With that said, it seems this poster has implied that the Tribe should have won the game against the Jesters. I find this response to be somewhat odd when the final score was 10-2 in favor of the Jesters. The Tribe were kept scoreless in the first half, and, to be clear, they hit ONE crossbar on an excellent shot by a dodging midfielder from the top of the box. Also, what makes the poster believe that if the shots, that were off target, were on the goal, then they would have been goals.
To say that the Jesters were lucky to win the game would be unfair to the Jesters players and a disservice to the Wantagh Tribe players.
Funny because Jesters Black parents seem to use the same excuses when they lose a game
Not true, we lost to BBL at fl$. Not because of the pipes the kids hit, because the other team scored more goals and played better that day. Sound familiar?
The following response is from a Parent of a Jesters Black 2018 Player:
To be fair to the Wantagh Tribe, they are a good team. My son has played against them on Town and School Lacrosse Teams. The program does a nice job keeping the kids that play together in school, playing the summer.
With that said, it seems this poster has implied that the Tribe should have won the game against the Jesters. I find this response to be somewhat odd when the final score was 10-2 in favor of the Jesters. The Tribe were kept scoreless in the first half, and, to be clear, they hit ONE crossbar on an excellent shot by a dodging midfielder from the top of the box. Also, what makes the poster believe that if the shots, that were off target, were on the goal, then they would have been goals.
To say that the Jesters were lucky to win the game would be unfair to the Jesters players and a disservice to the Wantagh Tribe players.
Funny because Jesters Black parents seem to use the same excuses when they lose a game
I've never seen hit 9 posts , shoulda won excuse before. You saying not original ?
Stop your nonsense. I don't recall any Jesters Black parent making any excuses. Please refer me to those posts.
Any want to restart the the top 2018 teams topic?
All teams or LI only?
Recent scores to support ranking please
Extreme: Beat Terps in Platinum very good game
Terps:Barely lost to Extreme and beat Dukes one of the best teams
fl$: until they play each other interchangeable with 91 Orange
91 Orange:
Jesters Black: Beat Wantagh at fl$
Wantagh: Beat Wolverines and Outlaws at Forsberg
Outlaws Black: beat Wolverines at Forsberg
Wolverines: Lost to both Wantagh and Outlaws
Vipers
Tomahawks
Checkmate Sharks
Piranhas
True Blue
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
This is based on opinion and recent scores. It will change as season goes on. All teams match up differently vs each other. Cant include Team LI because they are mixed 2017/2018
Any want to restart the the top 2018 teams topic?
All teams or LI only?
Recent scores to support ranking please
Top 10 Long Island only
Extreme
Terps
91 orange
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws Black
fl$
Tribe
Wolverines
TLI Red
Etreme
Terps
Team LI for LI
Madlax and crabs from Maryland
Dukes from Philly
Laxachusets not bad either based upon what I saw last weekend.
West coast Stars South good, north not as much.
Extreme beat terps by one in overtime this weekend and so they get edge.
Terps went one and one with Dukes so they are a push.
Terps will see madlax this weekend at Dukes tourny.
crabs always good.
Team LI--terps played a few weeks back in a 5 Quarter scrimage and won, but they are always tough...
These teams are always competitive and I think can beat each other on any given day.
After this above group, I think teams like jesters, Mesa Fresh and a few others are all competitive but not quite on the AA level...
Just opinion, nothing more
Any want to restart the the top 2018 teams topic?
All teams or LI only?
Recent scores to support ranking please
Get a life!
Extreme: Beat Terps in Platinum very good game
Terps:Barely lost to Extreme and beat Dukes one of the best teams
fl$: until they play each other interchangeable with 91 Orange
91 Orange:
Jesters Black: Beat Wantagh at fl$
Wantagh: Beat Wolverines and Outlaws at Forsberg
Outlaws Black: beat Wolverines at Forsberg
Wolverines: Lost to both Wantagh and Outlaws
Vipers
Tomahawks
Checkmate Sharks
Piranhas
True Blue
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
This is based on opinion and recent scores. It will change as season goes on. All teams match up differently vs each other. Cant include Team LI because they are mixed 2017/2018
Looks good except 91 orange killed fl$ in fall. Far from interchangeable. Giving that team way too much credit.
Extreme: Beat Terps in Platinum very good game
Terps:Barely lost to Extreme and beat Dukes one of the best teams
fl$: until they play each other interchangeable with 91 Orange
91 Orange:
Jesters Black: Beat Wantagh at fl$
Wantagh: Beat Wolverines and Outlaws at Forsberg
Outlaws Black: beat Wolverines at Forsberg
Wolverines: Lost to both Wantagh and Outlaws
Vipers
Tomahawks
Checkmate Sharks
Piranhas
True Blue
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
This is based on opinion and recent scores. It will change as season goes on. All teams match up differently vs each other. Cant include Team LI because they are mixed 2017/2018
Looks good except 91 orange killed fl$ in fall. Far from interchangeable. Giving that team way too much credit.
Didnt know 91 Orange and fl$ played. Was it a tournament? or OBLL. I dont put much into OBLL. When titles are on the line at tournaments I count those wins.
Any want to restart the the top 2018 teams topic?
All teams or LI only?
Recent scores to support ranking please
Top 10 Long Island only
Extreme
Terps
91 orange
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws Black
fl$
Tribe
Wolverines
TLI Red
Tribe just beat Outlaws Black. Who have the Vipers played and beat?
Long Island Only
91 Extreme
LIE Terps
91 Orange
fl$
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws Black
LIE Wolverines
Tribe
TLI - Red
Tomahawks
Legacy “B”
Checkmate
91 White
LIE Piranhas
True Blue
Legacy “A”
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
Threshers
Recon
Dune Dawgs
Millon
Hitman
Lax Warriors
91 Stampede
Extreme: Beat Terps in Platinum very good game
Terps:Barely lost to Extreme and beat Dukes one of the best teams
fl$: until they play each other interchangeable with 91 Orange
91 Orange:
Jesters Black: Beat Wantagh at fl$
Wantagh: Beat Wolverines and Outlaws at Forsberg
Outlaws Black: beat Wolverines at Forsberg
Wolverines: Lost to both Wantagh and Outlaws
Vipers
Tomahawks
Checkmate Sharks
Piranhas
True Blue
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
This is based on opinion and recent scores. It will change as season goes on. All teams match up differently vs each other. Cant include Team LI because they are mixed 2017/2018
Looks good except 91 orange killed fl$ in fall. Far from interchangeable. Giving that team way too much credit.
Didnt know 91 Orange and fl$ played. Was it a tournament? or OBLL. I dont put much into OBLL. When titles are on the line at tournaments I count those wins.
Shamrock shootout. Beat down.
Long Island Only
91 Extreme
LIE Terps
91 Orange
fl$
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws Black
LIE Wolverines
Tribe
TLI - Red
Tomahawks
Legacy “B”
Checkmate
91 White
LIE Piranhas
True Blue
Legacy “A”
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
Threshers
Recon
Dune Dawgs
Millon
Hitman
Lax Warriors
91 Stampede
Again Tribe beat both Outlaws Black and Wolverines within the past two weeks at Forsberg. Beat Outlaws in the finals of their own tournament.
Extreme: Beat Terps in Platinum very good game
Terps:Barely lost to Extreme and beat Dukes one of the best teams
fl$: until they play each other interchangeable with 91 Orange
91 Orange:
Jesters Black: Beat Wantagh at fl$
Wantagh: Beat Wolverines and Outlaws at Forsberg
Outlaws Black: beat Wolverines at Forsberg
Wolverines: Lost to both Wantagh and Outlaws
Vipers
Tomahawks
Checkmate Sharks
Piranhas
True Blue
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
This is based on opinion and recent scores. It will change as season goes on. All teams match up differently vs each other. Cant include Team LI because they are mixed 2017/2018
Find it interesting that I provide head to head results and people still put teams that got beat by another team ahead of said team. These results are only a week or so out. I missed a few teams but don't have much info on them and have not seen them play. Will definitely rank 91 Orange over fl$ because they played head to head and Orange beat them pretty easily.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Long Island Only
91 Extreme
LIE Terps
91 Orange
fl$
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws Black
LIE Wolverines
Tribe
TLI - Red
Tomahawks
Legacy “B”
Checkmate
91 White
LIE Piranhas
True Blue
Legacy “A”
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
Threshers
Recon
Dune Dawgs
Millon
Hitman
Lax Warriors
91 Stampede
Did someone actually rank the top 26 teams on LI?? Are we just namimg as many teams as posiible?
Long Island Only
91 Extreme
LIE Terps
91 Orange
fl$
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws Black
LIE Wolverines
Tribe
TLI - Red
Tomahawks
Legacy “B”
Checkmate
91 White
LIE Piranhas
True Blue
Legacy “A”
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
Threshers
Recon
Dune Dawgs
Millon
Hitman
Lax Warriors
91 Stampede
Seen most of these teams and it looks about right
Any want to restart the the top 2018 teams topic?
All teams or LI only?
Recent scores to support ranking please
Top 10 Long Island only
Extreme
Terps
91 orange
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws Black
fl$
Tribe
Wolverines
TLI Red
Tribe just beat Outlaws Black. Who have the Vipers played and beat?
Have beaten the Outlaws and split with Jesters. Also beat the Tomahawks
Extreme: Beat Terps in Platinum very good game
Terps:Barely lost to Extreme and beat Dukes one of the best teams
fl$: until they play each other interchangeable with 91 Orange
91 Orange:
Jesters Black: Beat Wantagh at fl$
Wantagh: Beat Wolverines and Outlaws at Forsberg
Outlaws Black: beat Wolverines at Forsberg
Wolverines: Lost to both Wantagh and Outlaws
Vipers
Tomahawks
Checkmate Sharks
Piranhas
True Blue
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
This is based on opinion and recent scores. It will change as season goes on. All teams match up differently vs each other. Cant include Team LI because they are mixed 2017/2018
Find it interesting that I provide head to head results and people still put teams that got beat by another team ahead of said team. These results are only a week or so out. I missed a few teams but don't have much info on them and have not seen them play. Will definitely rank 91 Orange over fl$ because they played head to head and Orange beat them pretty easily.
you provide head to head results and people still have their own opinions, imagine the nerve. Spain is the number one team in the world rankings and Chile is number 15, Chile won today but I bet when the new world rankings come out Spain will still be ahead of them. these lists are the single most subjective things in the world. And I have terps rated higher then extreme because they were ahead for most of the game.....lol
Long Island Only
91 Extreme
LIE Terps
91 Orange
fl$
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws Black
LIE Wolverines
Tribe
TLI - Red
Tomahawks
Legacy “B”
Checkmate
91 White
LIE Piranhas
True Blue
Legacy “A”
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
Threshers
Recon
Dune Dawgs
Millon
Hitman
Lax Warriors
91 Stampede
Seen most of these teams and it looks about right
Just naming I assume. Because a few of these teams should consider combining talent to be more competitive. e.g. 91 White & Stampede.
Extreme: Beat Terps in Platinum very good game
Terps:Barely lost to Extreme and beat Dukes one of the best teams
fl$: until they play each other interchangeable with 91 Orange
91 Orange:
Jesters Black: Beat Wantagh at fl$
Wantagh: Beat Wolverines and Outlaws at Forsberg
Outlaws Black: beat Wolverines at Forsberg
Wolverines: Lost to both Wantagh and Outlaws
Vipers
Tomahawks
Checkmate Sharks
Piranhas
True Blue
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
This is based on opinion and recent scores. It will change as season goes on. All teams match up differently vs each other. Cant include Team LI because they are mixed 2017/2018
Find it interesting that I provide head to head results and people still put teams that got beat by another team ahead of said team. These results are only a week or so out. I missed a few teams but don't have much info on them and have not seen them play. Will definitely rank 91 Orange over fl$ because they played head to head and Orange beat them pretty easily.
you provide head to head results and people still have their own opinions, imagine the nerve. Spain is the number one team in the world rankings and Chile is number 15, Chile won today but I bet when the new world rankings come out Spain will still be ahead of them. these lists are the single most subjective things in the world. And I have terps rated higher then extreme because they were ahead for most of the game.....lol
Chile has a youth lax team? If not.....st#u
Most of these teams are playing this weekend in the LI lax Fest so let's see how they do and where they stand in the end. And as far as the Threshers are ranked they beat a lot of those teams listed above them as did other teams on the list so I would look at actual games and scores and then make a list.
It's fun to play around with these rankings, but these days are fading fast. Many of the boys on these teams will be trust into the recruiting game very shortly, if it hasn't begun already. No longer all fun and games, but another exciting chapter nonetheless. Point is, many kids on the teams listed above will have plenty of opportunity to play in college if they so desire. Each kids journey and destination will be different. I for one wish them all well. This class of 2018 is full of talent and will represent Strong Island Lacrosse well at the collegiate level...
Do Dune Dawgs have a 2018 team anymore ? I thought that fell apart .
While everyone else at Laxfest, terps making a long drive to philly to play madlax, dukes, that team from texas...and some others at big 4 championship...
Good luck to all at laxfest, wish we were there as well...
Well said ...all these boys are going to represent LI and no matter what team they are on they will go on to play at some sort of collegiate level and have a lot of fun doing it.
While everyone else at Laxfest, terps making a long drive to philly to play madlax, dukes, that team from texas...and some others at big 4 championship...
Good luck to all at laxfest, wish we were there as well...
I Agree to that!
Here's another Pole Question:
Who's a better Coach?
Mike C or Sal L
Chanenchuk is a far better coach than Sal. Not even close. Anybody can coach that Extreme team and win games and he had nothing to do with their individual skills development
Here's another Pole Question:
Who's a better Coach?
Mike C or Sal L
Depends on whether Express or 91 parents respond.
Well said ...all these boys are going to represent LI and no matter what team they are on they will go on to play at some sort of collegiate level and have a lot of fun doing it.
there are a lot of talented kids on all of these teams mentioned here. Many have played with each other on school, towns or even other club teams. Good luck to all them. Enjoy the summer season.
Here's another Pole Question:
Who's a better Coach?
Mike C or Sal L
John L
Long Island Only
91 Extreme
LIE Terps
91 Orange
fl$
Jesters Black
Vipers
Outlaws Black
LIE Wolverines
Tribe
TLI - Red
Tomahawks
Legacy “B”
Checkmate
91 White
LIE Piranhas
True Blue
Legacy “A”
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
Threshers
Recon
Dune Dawgs
Millon
Hitman
Lax Warriors
91 Stampede
FYI 91 orange has beaten the teams below there name on the list in 2014 obll & in 2013 fall tourneys ,91 orange beat a team from Texas this wked & bucks select .in thew final .They haven't played 91 extreame or terps .great representation of Long Island lax this weekend go LI .
Extreme: Beat Terps in Platinum very good game
Terps:Barely lost to Extreme and beat Dukes one of the best teams
fl$: until they play each other interchangeable with 91 Orange
91 Orange:
Jesters Black: Beat Wantagh at fl$
Wantagh: Beat Wolverines and Outlaws at Forsberg
Outlaws Black: beat Wolverines at Forsberg
Wolverines: Lost to both Wantagh and Outlaws
Vipers
Tomahawks
Checkmate Sharks
Piranhas
True Blue
Outlaws Silver
Jesters Green
This is based on opinion and recent scores. It will change as season goes on. All teams match up differently vs each other. Cant include Team LI because they are mixed 2017/2018
Find it interesting that I provide head to head results and people still put teams that got beat by another team ahead of said team. These results are only a week or so out. I missed a few teams but don't have much info on them and have not seen them play. Will definitely rank 91 Orange over fl$ because they played head to head and Orange beat them pretty easily.
you provide head to head results and people still have their own opinions, imagine the nerve. Spain is the number one team in the world rankings and Chile is number 15, Chile won today but I bet when the new world rankings come out Spain will still be ahead of them. these lists are the single most subjective things in the world. And I have terps rated higher then extreme because they were ahead for most of the game.....lol
Spain wont finish ahead of Chile in this World Cup tournament. LOL!! Using head to head is the easiest way to rank. When a team beats a team they should be ranked ahead of that team. Its not subjective yet objective when you have facts to make your point. Its that plain and simple. If they never play each other then you go on body of work and common opponents. Parent always want to sugar coat it. Facts are facts. Until a team beats another than the team that has won the head to head games will be ranked higher. Doesn't matter what the teams look like on paper or their pedigree.
Here's another Pole Question:
Who's a better Coach?
Mike C or Sal L
Depends on whether Express or 91 parents respond.
Not a parent on either team, but know both. After these two guys take their respective teams to a one goal overtime decision, I think you have to say it's a toss up on the coaching side. As far as player development is concerned, and the ability to make a kid a better player, I think it's MC hands down... He has a way of teaching the proper techniques and concepts of the game better than anyone I've ever seen.
Here's another Pole Question:
Who's a better Coach?
Mike C or Sal L
Depends on whether Express or 91 parents respond.
Not a parent on either team, but know both. After these two guys take their respective teams to a one goal overtime decision, I think you have to say it's a toss up on the coaching side. As far as player development is concerned, and the ability to make a kid a better player, I think it's MC hands down... He has a way of teaching the proper techniques and concepts of the game better than anyone I've ever seen.
Maybe developing.......game time coach? I would disagree
Here's another Pole Question:
Who's a better Coach?
Mike C or Sal L
Depends on whether Express or 91 parents respond.
Not a parent on either team, but know both. After these two guys take their respective teams to a one goal overtime decision, I think you have to say it's a toss up on the coaching side. As far as player development is concerned, and the ability to make a kid a better player, I think it's MC hands down... He has a way of teaching the proper techniques and concepts of the game better than anyone I've ever seen.
Yup!
Here's another Pole Question:
Who's a better Coach?
Mike C or Sal L
Depends on whether Express or 91 parents respond.
Just by observing some games between the teams, I would have to say MC, there is a difference between motivating a player and screaming at the player. SL is known as a screamer.
If you pay Channy , he will coach you up. If you don't pay him, he won't. You know, the extra training on the side that he SUGGESTS you participate in.
Here's another Pole Question:
Who's a better Coach?
Mike C or Sal L
Depends on whether Express or 91 parents respond.
Not a parent on either team, but know both. After these two guys take their respective teams to a one goal overtime decision, I think you have to say it's a toss up on the coaching side. As far as player development is concerned, and the ability to make a kid a better player, I think it's MC hands down... He has a way of teaching the proper techniques and concepts of the game better than anyone I've ever seen.
Maybe developing.......game time coach? I would disagree
I am not from either club and I agree that SL is probably as good a game coach, but you never hear him teach. MC is always teaching. I woud much rather have a teacher!
What players is he developing? The 12 kids he plays or the other 25 sitting on the sidelines?
If you pay Channy , he will coach you up. If you don't pay him, he won't. You know, the extra training on the side that he SUGGESTS you participate in.
And that "extra training" is worth every penny. If you are lucky enough to get on the "email list", GO! The best 90 minute workout I have ever seen.
If you pay Channy , he will coach you up. If you don't pay him, he won't. You know, the extra training on the side that he SUGGESTS you participate in.
we get it, Mike charges to coach lacrosse, I will adjust your back if you or your insurance pay me, and I will do it more often if you pay me more. The questions was who was better and not who has a better ROI - I say it is Mike hands down. I do not know of any other coach in lacrosse that can get so many people to pay so much money to sit on the bench and not play.....and they keep coming back because he is a great coach and they see their kids getting better.
If you pay Channy , he will coach you up. If you don't pay him, he won't. You know, the extra training on the side that he SUGGESTS you participate in.
Nobody is talking about extra training or money you knucklehead. Channy is far and away a better teacher and instructor and a better coach.
Terps parent here...
MC is a great coach and definitely is trying to make all boys better and very clear with them that in the biggest games, not everyone will play. You can say what you want about the man and express, but in my experience, he has always been up front and doesn't play any games. In today's world, that means alot. He is running a business and has always been very clear about that to parents. If you want someone to hold your hand, LIE is not for you...If you want more playing time, there are 20 other teams out there.
The boys (at least mine) absolutely respect the man and he is great with them.
I don't know SL so I cannot comment on him or his style. I do know that he always has a great team (the best team in this age bracket).
Last weekend at Adrenaline his team was the team to beat. Terps were winning all game in the championship but lost in OT (not to be a crybaby, but there were a few calls that really hurt the Terp). We have played Extreme a bunch over the years and all games have been tight. Last year lost to them in final at Shamrock, lost in prelim round of lax fest and then beat them in championship at lax fest. Last fall lost in a scrimmage event that MC put together with Dukes, Extreme, Team LI, team 365 (terps lost every game that day).
Terps are also a very good team and can compete with anyone, but Extreme is really the best team. Better than crabs and dukes. I think the talent level on Extreme just a little better than Terps, but who really knows...
MC is a pretty dam good coach...
Terps parent here...
MC is a great coach and definitely is trying to make all boys better and very clear with them that in the biggest games, not everyone will play. You can say what you want about the man and express, but in my experience, he has always been up front and doesn't play any games. In today's world, that means alot. He is running a business and has always been very clear about that to parents. If you want someone to hold your hand, LIE is not for you...If you want more playing time, there are 20 other teams out there.
The boys (at least mine) absolutely respect the man and he is great with them.
I don't know SL so I cannot comment on him or his style. I do know that he always has a great team (the best team in this age bracket).
Last weekend at Adrenaline his team was the team to beat. Terps were winning all game in the championship but lost in OT (not to be a crybaby, but there were a few calls that really hurt the Terp). We have played Extreme a bunch over the years and all games have been tight. Last year lost to them in final at Shamrock, lost in prelim round of lax fest and then beat them in championship at lax fest. Last fall lost in a scrimmage event that MC put together with Dukes, Extreme, Team LI, team 365 (terps lost every game that day).
Terps are also a very good team and can compete with anyone, but Extreme is really the best team. Better than crabs and dukes. I think the talent level on Extreme just a little better than Terps, but who really knows...
MC is a pretty dam good coach...
Nicely put! I know both coaches, styles of coaching are very different, the results are about the same. MC's style of coaching motivates the players while SL's style sometimes makes the player feel as if they are failures. I guess it has a lot to do with the individual players and parents as to what they really want. If you want to win and win often, then you want your child to play with either Exteme or Terps, if you want your child to play at every game, well, there are a lot of other teams to go to, some have and as in real world, the grass is not always greener. You always lose something when trying to gain another.
Terps parent here...
MC is a great coach and definitely is trying to make all boys better and very clear with them that in the biggest games, not everyone will play. You can say what you want about the man and express, but in my experience, he has always been up front and doesn't play any games. In today's world, that means alot. He is running a business and has always been very clear about that to parents. If you want someone to hold your hand, LIE is not for you...If you want more playing time, there are 20 other teams out there.
The boys (at least mine) absolutely respect the man and he is great with them.
I don't know SL so I cannot comment on him or his style. I do know that he always has a great team (the best team in this age bracket).
Last weekend at Adrenaline his team was the team to beat. Terps were winning all game in the championship but lost in OT (not to be a crybaby, but there were a few calls that really hurt the Terp). We have played Extreme a bunch over the years and all games have been tight. Last year lost to them in final at Shamrock, lost in prelim round of lax fest and then beat them in championship at lax fest. Last fall lost in a scrimmage event that MC put together with Dukes, Extreme, Team LI, team 365 (terps lost every game that day).
Terps are also a very good team and can compete with anyone, but Extreme is really the best team. Better than crabs and dukes. I think the talent level on Extreme just a little better than Terps, but who really knows...
MC is a pretty dam good coach...
you Mr. Anonymous are a waste of my time, I come on to BOTC for rants and trash talk, there is no room on this board for well thought out and well written posts, if you are going to be complimentary to other teams please stay off this board - you are all that is right with youth sports but everything that is wrong with BOTC
A great coach can pull off a win like SL was able to pull off last weekend at Platinum. He was Missing 3 starters going into the tournament Then had an additional 3 kids injured during the tournament. He had 17 kids on Sunday, Terps had at lest 30 on the sideline, It was the last game of the weekend.
Calls went both ways, Somehow he coached, motivated his boys to get it done. Both great coaches, LI lucky to have the best coaching.
Terps parent here...
MC is a great coach and definitely is trying to make all boys better and very clear with them that in the biggest games, not everyone will play. You can say what you want about the man and express, but in my experience, he has always been up front and doesn't play any games. In today's world, that means alot. He is running a business and has always been very clear about that to parents. If you want someone to hold your hand, LIE is not for you...If you want more playing time, there are 20 other teams out there.
The boys (at least mine) absolutely respect the man and he is great with them.
I don't know SL so I cannot comment on him or his style. I do know that he always has a great team (the best team in this age bracket).
Last weekend at Adrenaline his team was the team to beat. Terps were winning all game in the championship but lost in OT (not to be a crybaby, but there were a few calls that really hurt the Terp). We have played Extreme a bunch over the years and all games have been tight. Last year lost to them in final at Shamrock, lost in prelim round of lax fest and then beat them in championship at lax fest. Last fall lost in a scrimmage event that MC put together with Dukes, Extreme, Team LI, team 365 (terps lost every game that day).
Terps are also a very good team and can compete with anyone, but Extreme is really the best team. Better than crabs and dukes. I think the talent level on Extreme just a little better than Terps, but who really knows...
MC is a pretty dam good coach...
A great coach can pull off a win like SL was able to pull off last weekend at Platinum. He was Missing 3 starters going into the tournament Then had an additional 3 kids injured during the tournament. He had 17 kids on Sunday, Terps had at lest 30 on the sideline, It was the last game of the weekend.
Calls went both ways, Somehow he coached, motivated his boys to get it done. Both great coaches, LI lucky to have the best coaching.
Terps parent here...
MC is a great coach and definitely is trying to make all boys better and very clear with them that in the biggest games, not everyone will play. You can say what you want about the man and express, but in my experience, he has always been up front and doesn't play any games. In today's world, that means alot. He is running a business and has always been very clear about that to parents. If you want someone to hold your hand, LIE is not for you...If you want more playing time, there are 20 other teams out there.
The boys (at least mine) absolutely respect the man and he is great with them.
I don't know SL so I cannot comment on him or his style. I do know that he always has a great team (the best team in this age bracket).
Last weekend at Adrenaline his team was the team to beat. Terps were winning all game in the championship but lost in OT (not to be a crybaby, but there were a few calls that really hurt the Terp). We have played Extreme a bunch over the years and all games have been tight. Last year lost to them in final at Shamrock, lost in prelim round of lax fest and then beat them in championship at lax fest. Last fall lost in a scrimmage event that MC put together with Dukes, Extreme, Team LI, team 365 (terps lost every game that day).
Terps are also a very good team and can compete with anyone, but Extreme is really the best team. Better than crabs and dukes. I think the talent level on Extreme just a little better than Terps, but who really knows...
MC is a pretty dam good coach...
I also heard all the Extreme Coaches had a bad case of Malaria, How did they manage to pull it off...
A great coach can pull off a win like SL was able to pull off last weekend at Platinum.
I never saw SL in the game much less score with 5 seconds to go to tie the game, neither team needed motivation from the coaches, these kids are all friends and they also know that this game was for bragging rights. Let's not take credit away from #44 for playing until the last whistle and tied the game by saying SL was able to pull it off.
He was Missing 3 starters going into the tournament Then had an additional 3 kids injured during the tournament. He had 17 kids on Sunday, Terps had at lest 30 on the sideline, It was the last game of the weekend.
He or the team? let's not make this about SL, make it about the boys that were playing and did an amazing job.
Terps parent here...
MC is a great coach and definitely is trying to make all boys better and very clear with them that in the biggest games, not everyone will play. You can say what you want about the man and express, but in my experience, he has always been up front and doesn't play any games. In today's world, that means alot. He is running a business and has always been very clear about that to parents. If you want someone to hold your hand, LIE is not for you...If you want more playing time, there are 20 other teams out there.
The boys (at least mine) absolutely respect the man and he is great with them.
I don't know SL so I cannot comment on him or his style. I do know that he always has a great team (the best team in this age bracket).
Last weekend at Adrenaline his team was the team to beat. Terps were winning all game in the championship but lost in OT (not to be a crybaby, but there were a few calls that really hurt the Terp). We have played Extreme a bunch over the years and all games have been tight. Last year lost to them in final at Shamrock, lost in prelim round of lax fest and then beat them in championship at lax fest. Last fall lost in a scrimmage event that MC put together with Dukes, Extreme, Team LI, team 365 (terps lost every game that day).
Terps are also a very good team and can compete with anyone, but Extreme is really the best team. Better than crabs and dukes. I think the talent level on Extreme just a little better than Terps, but who really knows...
MC is a pretty dam good coach...
Nicely put! I know both coaches, styles of coaching are very different, the results are about the same. MC's style of coaching motivates the players while SL's style sometimes makes the player feel as if they are failures. I guess it has a lot to do with the individual players and parents as to what they really want. If you want to win and win often, then you want your child to play with either Exteme or Terps, if you want your child to play at every game, well, there are a lot of other teams to go to, some have and as in real world, the grass is not always greener. You always lose something when trying to gain another.
Not sure how you lose something if your kid is not playing. Look, both these teams have their top players and then everyone else. 4 or 5 years ago kids played summer lax to become better players. Somewhere along the way the focus morphed into having to win every tournament you play in. Hence half the team doesn't play. Don't get me wrong the objective is to win, I get it.
Point is, if your kid plays a lot you're probably happy. If not, get him on a team where he does. Think about this: If there were college coaches at that Championship game and your son didn't play much, what are you doing? He has to be seen playing against the best to be recruited. Is it better to "say" your son is on the top team and not play or be seen by the coaches? Or is it better to actually "play and be seen competing against the best" on a team that might lose to the top team 9-5 or 11-7? I say the latter, you might "lose" the opportunity to say your kid is ON the top team, but gain the opportunity to say your son PLAYS on a team that competes against the best. The coaches are watching how players play, not the final score. Again, for the top 12 or 13 players on each of the top teams this is a non-issue, for rest its time to think about where you stand on the team and how many LOOKS you're actually going to get moving forward. If your kid is not playing at least half the game he's not going to be seen.
Terps parent here...
MC is a great coach and definitely is trying to make all boys better and very clear with them that in the biggest games, not everyone will play. You can say what you want about the man and express, but in my experience, he has always been up front and doesn't play any games. In today's world, that means alot. He is running a business and has always been very clear about that to parents. If you want someone to hold your hand, LIE is not for you...If you want more playing time, there are 20 other teams out there.
The boys (at least mine) absolutely respect the man and he is great with them.
I don't know SL so I cannot comment on him or his style. I do know that he always has a great team (the best team in this age bracket).
Last weekend at Adrenaline his team was the team to beat. Terps were winning all game in the championship but lost in OT (not to be a crybaby, but there were a few calls that really hurt the Terp). We have played Extreme a bunch over the years and all games have been tight. Last year lost to them in final at Shamrock, lost in prelim round of lax fest and then beat them in championship at lax fest. Last fall lost in a scrimmage event that MC put together with Dukes, Extreme, Team LI, team 365 (terps lost every game that day).
Terps are also a very good team and can compete with anyone, but Extreme is really the best team. Better than crabs and dukes. I think the talent level on Extreme just a little better than Terps, but who really knows...
MC is a pretty dam good coach...
Nicely put! I know both coaches, styles of coaching are very different, the results are about the same. MC's style of coaching motivates the players while SL's style sometimes makes the player feel as if they are failures. I guess it has a lot to do with the individual players and parents as to what they really want. If you want to win and win often, then you want your child to play with either Exteme or Terps, if you want your child to play at every game, well, there are a lot of other teams to go to, some have and as in real world, the grass is not always greener. You always lose something when trying to gain another.
Not sure how you lose something if your kid is not playing. Look, both these teams have their top players and then everyone else. 4 or 5 years ago kids played summer lax to become better players. Somewhere along the way the focus morphed into having to win every tournament you play in. Hence half the team doesn't play. Don't get me wrong the objective is to win, I get it.
Point is, if your kid plays a lot you're probably happy. If not, get him on a team where he does. Think about this: If there were college coaches at that Championship game and your son didn't play much, what are you doing? He has to be seen playing against the best to be recruited. Is it better to "say" your son is on the top team and not play or be seen by the coaches? Or is it better to actually "play and be seen competing against the best" on a team that might lose to the top team 9-5 or 11-7? I say the latter, you might "lose" the opportunity to say your kid is ON the top team, but gain the opportunity to say your son PLAYS on a team that competes against the best. The coaches are watching how players play, not the final score. Again, for the top 12 or 13 players on each of the top teams this is a non-issue, for rest its time to think about where you stand on the team and how many LOOKS you're actually going to get moving forward. If your kid is not playing at least half the game he's not going to be seen.
SPOT ON!
If your kid is not one of the top 5-6 players on his team you should not be thinking about college looks yet, you should only be thinking about getting him better for next summer and the summer after that, very few 2018's will commit in the next 8 - 10 months probable less then 30 in the entire nation and the ones that do will be bigger and probably older 2018's. This summer really should not be about recruiting and it should NEVER be about winning - by being a middle of the road player on the best teams mean that you are practicing against the best and practice is where you are going to improve the most and I believe the best thing for any kid is to stay with a top team even if it means playing less then moving on to a lesser team to get more playing time. just IMHO
Totally agree head to head rules , since 91 orange has beaten fl$ ,jester , outlaws black in a tourney once & obll . Games to play this weekend . Great Long Island lacrosse !
If your kid is not one of the top 5-6 players on his team you should not be thinking about college looks yet, you should only be thinking about getting him better for next summer and the summer after that, very few 2018's will commit in the next 8 - 10 months probable less then 30 in the entire nation and the ones that do will be bigger and probably older 2018's. This summer really should not be about recruiting and it should NEVER be about winning - by being a middle of the road player on the best teams mean that you are practicing against the best and practice is where you are going to improve the most and I believe the best thing for any kid is to stay with a top team even if it means playing less then moving on to a lesser team to get more playing time. just IMHO
You get better by practicing and playing. You will ever get better until you challenge yourself against the best in a GAME. Not in practice. Btw if your on one of the top 2 teams your team will be getting looks this year. Point is if you're not playing this summer what makes you think you're all of a sudden going to be playing next year? I hate to tell you but you could not be more wrong. Get your son on a team where he plays.... Playing the best in GAMES makes you better. Wake up!
If your kid is not one of the top 5-6 players on his team you should not be thinking about college looks yet, you should only be thinking about getting him better for next summer and the summer after that, very few 2018's will commit in the next 8 - 10 months probable less then 30 in the entire nation and the ones that do will be bigger and probably older 2018's. This summer really should not be about recruiting and it should NEVER be about winning - by being a middle of the road player on the best teams mean that you are practicing against the best and practice is where you are going to improve the most and I believe the best thing for any kid is to stay with a top team even if it means playing less then moving on to a lesser team to get more playing time. just IMHO
You get better by practicing and playing. You will ever get better until you challenge yourself against the best in a GAME. Not in practice. Btw if your on one of the top 2 teams your team will be getting looks this year. Point is if you're not playing this summer what makes you think you're all of a sudden going to be playing next year? I hate to tell you but you could not be more wrong. Get your son on a team where he plays.... Playing the best in GAMES makes you better. Wake up!
Finish your point. Playing in games doesn't make you a more skilled player. Playing in games rises the kids confidence and that makes them better. Getting one or two shifts in a game, vs none, just ruins a kid. Especially the younger ones, maybe less so at this age. But if you're a coach and you can't figure out how to get the bottom 3rd of the roster a few shifts in big games - YOU ARE NOT A COACH! You are just a lax instructor, who thinks winning is more important than development. Coaching is so much more. So many of you youth coaches do it and then figure out some dumb justification. Just set your game plans and lines and let every kid contribute. Why carry 22-24. And don't say that's what HS does. This is different these kids are still be shaped as athletes and students and coaches have a role in that.
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
Come on, you're not surprised are you???
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
Extreme gets smoked by Hawks or Laxachusettes, both of those teams are littered with reclassed kids. Extreme only has a hand full of holdbacks to compete.
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
Extreme gets smoked by Hawks or Laxachusettes, both of those teams are littered with reclassed kids. Extreme only has a hand full of holdbacks to compete.
Laxachusetts lost to LI Express North today, won't make playoffs unless Express North loses to True Lacrosse MI or Wantaugh (who they beat 14-5) at fl$.
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
Extreme gets smoked by Hawks or Laxachusettes, both of those teams are littered with reclassed kids. Extreme only has a hand full of holdbacks to compete.
Hawks didn't impress. Watched them vs. fl$. Didn't see Laxachusettes play but have heard they are big and physical.
are scores posted anywhere?
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
Extreme gets smoked by Hawks or Laxachusettes, both of those teams are littered with reclassed kids. Extreme only has a hand full of holdbacks to compete.
Laxachusetts lost to LI Express North today, won't make playoffs unless Express North loses to True Lacrosse MI or Wantaugh (who they beat 14-5) at fl$.
I am sorry there is no way those Boston uni's with 2018 on their butts are the right age for 2018. You might be in the grade but last I say McHale lived in Minnesota some of those boys could have been his offspring. Seriously call it what you want but wth people.
I am now all in favor of birth certificate and grade based. If you are not of the age [lacrosse]. Play up a grade with your same age. get to HS then all bets are off only if you are on a Varisty tem if still grde based same grade and Age applies.
Good on you North
are scores posted anywhere?
Just on the wall at the tourney
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
Extreme gets smoked by Hawks or Laxachusettes, both of those teams are littered with reclassed kids. Extreme only has a hand full of holdbacks to compete.
Extreme wins it all. Beat Hawks in semi final game which should have been final. Then Smoked Jesters Black in finals. Jesters Black beat 91 Orange in regular play to advance and play Team Michigan who beat Express North in regular play to advance out of their division. Amazing thing is Wantagh and Team Michigan tied and Express North beat Wantagh pretty easily. Guess that's why you play the games.
Great tournament. Only issue is the teams from Boston and their kids being 2 years older. Boys do talk on the field coaches and they dont BS like the parents. Its a shame you need to bring kids that are 16 to play kids that are 13 and 14 kids years old.
team Michigan was older ask one kid and he said he was 15
Take if from an ex extreme players parent you do not get better playing for Sal in a limited role. You get better by playing the best and being the player who they want to get the ball too
Sal is very difficult to play for- be-littles the kids. Lose a game and he screams at the team in private. Has ruin a few of his players instead of building them up
For ruining players sure seems to be winning a lot.
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
Extreme gets smoked by Hawks or Laxachusettes, both of those teams are littered with reclassed kids. Extreme only has a hand full of holdbacks to compete.
Extreme wins it all. Beat Hawks in semi final game which should have been final. Then Smoked Jesters Black in finals. Jesters Black beat 91 Orange in regular play to advance and play Team Michigan who beat Express North in regular play to advance out of their division. Amazing thing is Wantagh and Team Michigan tied and Express North beat Wantagh pretty easily. Guess that's why you play the games.
Great tournament. Only issue is the teams from Boston and their kids being 2 years older. Boys do talk on the field coaches and they dont BS like the parents. Its a shame you need to bring kids that are 16 to play kids that are 13 and 14 kids years old.
Agree with most of what you said above, take exception that the Hawks should have been in Final. The teams in the finals won their way there. Jesters Black earned their way to that game. Won 5 games in a row to get there. Beat the team who everyone calls the number 3 team on LI in 2018 in 91 Orange rather convincingly 6-3. In a game that Orange played so dirty, they had double the amount of penalties than goals. Then they had to go play and beat that True Michigan Team with absurdly older, bigger kids. No excuses here on the final result, Extreme won handily. Point is, Jesters Black earned that trip to the finals, regardless of the outcome. Best of luck the rest of the summer.
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
So how did your predictions work out?
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
Extreme gets smoked by Hawks or Laxachusettes, both of those teams are littered with reclassed kids. Extreme only has a hand full of holdbacks to compete.
Extreme wins it all. Beat Hawks in semi final game which should have been final. Then Smoked Jesters Black in finals. Jesters Black beat 91 Orange in regular play to advance and play Team Michigan who beat Express North in regular play to advance out of their division. Amazing thing is Wantagh and Team Michigan tied and Express North beat Wantagh pretty easily. Guess that's why you play the games.
Great tournament. Only issue is the teams from Boston and their kids being 2 years older. Boys do talk on the field coaches and they dont BS like the parents. Its a shame you need to bring kids that are 16 to play kids that are 13 and 14 kids years old.
Agree with most of what you said above, take exception that the Hawks should have been in Final. The teams in the finals won their way there. Jesters Black earned their way to that game. Won 5 games in a row to get there. Beat the team who everyone calls the number 3 team on LI in 2018 in 91 Orange rather convincingly 6-3. In a game that Orange played so dirty, they had double the amount of penalties than goals. Then they had to go play and beat that True Michigan Team with absurdly older, bigger kids. No excuses here on the final result, Extreme won handily. Point is, Jesters Black earned that trip to the finals, regardless of the outcome. Best of luck the rest of the summer.
Look, yes Jesters won their division and playoffs. But if seeding was done in the correct way Hawks and Extreme should have been on opposite sides to meet in finals. We do know the way the tournament was setup that 91 Extreme and Orange were supposed to meet in finals. I dont know how Team Michigan beat Express North. Wantagh and team Michigan tied 3 to 3. While Express North handled Wantagh easily. An amazing day by all with a bunch of surprises. Jesters did impress and did handle 91 Orange to my surprise. Good luck to all.
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
So how did your predictions work out?
Never thought Laxachusettes would lose to Express North. Then never thought Michigan team would beat Express North. Also didn't think 91 Orange would lose to Jesters after they spanked them at Shamrock (I believe) But I don't think I did that badly.
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
So how did your predictions work out?
Never thought Laxachusettes would lose to Express North. Then never thought Michigan team would beat Express North. Also didn't think 91 Orange would lose to Jesters after they spanked them at Shamrock (I believe) But I don't think I did that badly.
Laxachuaettes and Michigan teams were no way 14 years old. Express North was best 2018 team who didn't get to playoffs. Jesters lost in Shamrock to 91 orange 6 3. Same score they beat them by yesterday. Spanking would not be accurate description of either game. Lots of great 2018 and alleged 2018 teams in this tournament. Unfortunately none of them in same class as Extreme.
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
So how did your predictions work out?
Never thought Laxachusettes would lose to Express North. Then never thought Michigan team would beat Express North. Also didn't think 91 Orange would lose to Jesters after they spanked them at Shamrock (I believe) But I don't think I did that badly.
ergo... stop making predictions, since it's clearly not a skill of yours.
LI Top 10
Extreme
Terps
Jesters (Black)
91 Orange
Outlaws Black
fl$
Tribe
Team LI (Red)
Vipers
Wolverines
Extrem wins it all again Beat Annapolis 8-2 beat Jesters 9-0
Jesters were allowed only 2 shots on goal 91 extrene on another level
Extrem wins it all again Beat Annapolis 8-2 beat Jesters 9-0
Jesters were allowed only 2 shots on goal 91 extrene on another level
It was 8 0 but rest is accurate. Hit one pipe and goalie made maybe 2 or 3 more saves. Jesters were never on offence. Extreme controlled game. Best team at this age group.
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Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5 [/quote]
Extreme gets smoked by Hawks or Laxachusettes, both of those teams are littered with reclassed kids. Extreme only has a hand full of holdbacks to compete. [/quote]
Extreme wins it all. Beat Hawks in semi final game which should have been final. Then Smoked Jesters Black in finals. Jesters Black beat 91 Orange in regular play to advance and play Team Michigan who beat Express North in regular play to advance out of their division. Amazing thing is Wantagh and Team Michigan tied and Express North beat Wantagh pretty easily. Guess that's why you play the games.
Great tournament. Only issue is the teams from Boston and their kids being 2 years older. Boys do talk on the field coaches and they dont BS like the parents. Its a shame you need to bring kids that are 16 to play kids that are 13 and 14 kids years old. [/quote]
Agree with most of what you said above, take exception that the Hawks should have been in Final. The teams in the finals won their way there. Jesters Black earned their way to that game. Won 5 games in a row to get there. Beat the team who everyone calls the number 3 team on LI in 2018 in 91 Orange rather convincingly 6-3. In a game that Orange played so dirty, they had double the amount of penalties than goals. Then they had to go play and beat that True Michigan Team with absurdly older, bigger kids. No excuses here on the final result, Extreme won handily. Point is, Jesters Black earned that trip to the finals, regardless of the outcome. Best of luck the rest of the summer. [/quote]
Look, yes Jesters won their division and playoffs. But if seeding was done in the correct way Hawks and Extreme should have been on opposite sides to meet in finals. We do know the way the tournament was setup that 91 Extreme and Orange were supposed to meet in finals. I dont know how Team Michigan beat Express North. Wantagh and team Michigan tied 3 to 3. While Express North handled Wantagh easily. An amazing day by all with a bunch of surprises. Jesters did impress and did handle 91 Orange to my surprise. Good luck to all. [/quote]
I agree with 91 having teams in opposite brackets. They should not have to play each other before championship if they are both lucky enough to make it that far. Lot of good team. Hawks were not in toughest bracket. Michigan, Laxachusettes and Express North were top teams that beat each other!Any one of them could have made to finals if brackets done differently.
LI Top 10
Extreme
Terps
Jesters (Black)
91 Orange
Outlaws Black
fl$
Tribe
Team LI (Red)
Vipers
Wolverines
Drop Outlaws Black below Tribe and your spot on. Tribe tied them and then beat them at Forsberg in finals. So would give the edge to Tribe.
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Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
Extreme gets smoked by Hawks or Laxachusettes, both of those teams are littered with reclassed kids. Extreme only has a hand full of holdbacks to compete. [/quote]
Extreme wins it all. Beat Hawks in semi final game which should have been final. Then Smoked Jesters Black in finals. Jesters Black beat 91 Orange in regular play to advance and play Team Michigan who beat Express North in regular play to advance out of their division. Amazing thing is Wantagh and Team Michigan tied and Express North beat Wantagh pretty easily. Guess that's why you play the games.
Great tournament. Only issue is the teams from Boston and their kids being 2 years older. Boys do talk on the field coaches and they dont BS like the parents. Its a shame you need to bring kids that are 16 to play kids that are 13 and 14 kids years old. [/quote]
Agree with most of what you said above, take exception that the Hawks should have been in Final. The teams in the finals won their way there. Jesters Black earned their way to that game. Won 5 games in a row to get there. Beat the team who everyone calls the number 3 team on LI in 2018 in 91 Orange rather convincingly 6-3. In a game that Orange played so dirty, they had double the amount of penalties than goals. Then they had to go play and beat that True Michigan Team with absurdly older, bigger kids. No excuses here on the final result, Extreme won handily. Point is, Jesters Black earned that trip to the finals, regardless of the outcome. Best of luck the rest of the summer. [/quote]
Look, yes Jesters won their division and playoffs. But if seeding was done in the correct way Hawks and Extreme should have been on opposite sides to meet in finals. We do know the way the tournament was setup that 91 Extreme and Orange were supposed to meet in finals. I dont know how Team Michigan beat Express North. Wantagh and team Michigan tied 3 to 3. While Express North handled Wantagh easily. An amazing day by all with a bunch of surprises. Jesters did impress and did handle 91 Orange to my surprise. Good luck to all. [/quote]
I agree with 91 having teams in opposite brackets. They should not have to play each other before championship if they are both lucky enough to make it that far. Lot of good team. Hawks were not in toughest bracket. Michigan, Laxachusettes and Express North were top teams that beat each other!Any one of them could have made to finals if brackets done differently. [/quote]
Two of the three teams you mention were not made up of 13 and 14 year olds. That might have been the toughest bracket of the tournament. Cant forget HOS Black and Tribe were also in same bracket.
Extreme should have been playing up at Lax fest. If they want to be an extreme team they should play up they have enough reclassified players that they would be playing age appropriate
Extreme should have been playing up at Lax fest. If they want to be an extreme team they should play up they have enough reclassified players that they would be playing age appropriate
If reclass players on teams means you should play up, I saw about 12 teams that need to go then. Extreme was far from the biggest team there. Honestly, the two teams in finals may have been two smallest in 8th grade A!
Extreme should have been playing up at Lax fest. If they want to be an extreme team they should play up they have enough reclassified players that they would be playing age appropriate
Maybe every team should play up and then all the 2018's can play each other in the 2017 bracket....lol the tournament had an A and B division and they played in the A division where they should.
Anyone else notice how easy 91 Extreme's and Orange's schedules are in our age group.
None of those brackets are easy. At least 2 or 3 solid A teams in every bracket.
Here are my predictions of the four teams to make playoffs. Extreme, Annapolis Hawks Green, Laxachusettes Black and 91 Orange.
Not 100% sure if Annapolis Hawks Green is their A team. Pretty sure an Annapolis Team beat Extreme earlier this year. As for 91 Orange its a cake walk till they run into Laxachusettes Black in Semi Finals where they will lose 8 to 4. Extreme will win in OT vs Hawks if this is their A team 7 to 6. Then Extreme wins it all vs Laxachusettes 8 to 5
Extreme gets smoked by Hawks or Laxachusettes, both of those teams are littered with reclassed kids. Extreme only has a hand full of holdbacks to compete.
Extreme wins it all. Beat Hawks in semi final game which should have been final. Then Smoked Jesters Black in finals. Jesters Black beat 91 Orange in regular play to advance and play Team Michigan who beat Express North in regular play to advance out of their division. Amazing thing is Wantagh and Team Michigan tied and Express North beat Wantagh pretty easily. Guess that's why you play the games.
Great tournament. Only issue is the teams from Boston and their kids being 2 years older. Boys do talk on the field coaches and they dont BS like the parents. Its a shame you need to bring kids that are 16 to play kids that are 13 and 14 kids years old.
That was the same case last year, as they sent one player to the hospital and severely injured several players on the top 2 LI teams. I guess it makes sense that SL is looking to bring them into the 91 family, big, fast and overly aggressive.
Extreme gets smoked by Hawks or Laxachusettes, both of those teams are littered with reclassed kids. Extreme only has a hand full of holdbacks to compete.
The comment about Extreme getting smoke is a ridiculous statement, yes they won the laxfest but if people would read the board before making such bizarre statements, they would have realized the Exteme and already beaten Laxachussettes twice the week before. Some people are just writing cr@p to illicit a response and stir things up.
I'm not involved with Extreme but I will admit that they are solid team and always a great team to play against.
The extreme stinks. and lots of loud fat dads living through there kids. Ridiculous!
not extreme parent here but what I can see parents were very nice when they played our team. as for the Extreme team they will be very hard to beat... they have great face off player, middies are all fast and can shoot with both hands......... Attack is solid
and their defense has the one of the best players I have ever saw at this age bracket add 2 top Goalies in the age bracket and that will make them very hard to beat/
Extreme should have been playing up at Lax fest. If they want to be an extreme team they should play up they have enough reclassified players that they would be playing age appropriate
If reclass players on teams means you should play up, I saw about 12 teams that need to go then. Extreme was far from the biggest team there. Honestly, the two teams in finals may have been two smallest in 8th grade A!
That's a true statement, and Extreme on a whole was a lot bigger. JB on average the smallest A team in 2018, got to finals on grit and hard play. Took it to that absurdly older Michigan team with pure heart and skill.
Extreme should have been playing up at Lax fest. If they want to be an extreme team they should play up they have enough reclassified players that they would be playing age appropriate
Maybe every team should play up and then all the 2018's can play each other in the 2017 bracket....lol the tournament had an A and B division and they played in the A division where they should.
Well, lets be honest, many of the Kids "should" be 2017's and on the out of state teams it could be 2016's. The other team that was in the finals is 100% 2018 legit by age and grade.
Jesters & 91 orange 3 , 91 orange beat jesters in shamrock &
Halloween havoc & twice in obll , first time jesters beat 91 orange congrats jesters
Jesters & 91 orange 3 , 91 orange beat jesters in shamrock &
Halloween havoc & twice in obll , first time jesters beat 91 orange congrats jesters
Very evenly matched teams. The first one to 6 goals usually wins between these two.
Anyone playing in the Tri Star Lax Clash this coming weekend at Mitchell Field?
Where is the tristar lax clash schedule??
Where is the tristar lax clash schedule??
It's like the OBLL,.....you will get Friday night!
Anyone playing in the Tri Star Lax Clash this coming weekend at Mitchell Field?
yes
terps playing but a bunch of boys will be at Jake reed...
Wolverines are playing too - any teams other than Express?
terps playing but a bunch of boys will be at Jake reed...
And the excuses are all ready starting -
Why would 3D have an event but send there 3D Select Canada team to this tournament? Why wouldn't they be at Jake Reed? Thought the 3D event was for graduating years 2016 and 2017. Am I wrong?
terps playing but a bunch of boys will be at Jake reed...
And the excuses are all ready starting -
Many kids going to 205 , some jake reed , all $ making for the 2018
Level , next year the year to go . Oh well $ making event for 2018 level not the 2017 level . Play with who you have terps have 32 players on there team . No excuses
terps playing but a bunch of boys will be at Jake reed...
And the excuses are all ready starting -
I don't believe that is an excuse, just stating facts. They will play with what they have, they always do and those players will work extra hard to win.
terps playing but a bunch of boys will be at Jake reed...
And the excuses are all ready starting -
I don't believe that is an excuse, just stating facts. They will play with what they have, they always do and those players will work extra hard to win.
so do those players usually not work extra hard?
terps playing but a bunch of boys will be at Jake reed...
And the excuses are all ready starting -
I don't believe that is an excuse, just stating facts. They will play with what they have, they always do and those players will work extra hard to win.
so do those players usually not work extra hard?
stirring the pot ???
Many kids going to 205 , some jake reed , all $ making for the 2018
Level , next year the year to go . Oh well $ making event for 2018 level not the 2017 level . Play with who you have terps have 32 players on there team . No excuses
Money making??? You'd be surprised with who is getting legit 2018 interest already. Its crazy, but it's happening.
Please...I think everyone on this thread agrees, including terps parents, that 91 Extreme is best at this age. No need to make excuses for Terps, they win their fair share against all opponents and when they lose, they do so with a little dignity.
No need for excuses, you all know how good they are. Plenty of D-1 commits will come from this team, and that is the focus now, not another tee shirt, we have a whole drawer full...
For all of you that think the coaches aren't watching, you are making a mistake. Last two weeks at adrenaline and then at Dukes invitational, all the big boys were there and watching these 8th grade boys compete. Is it too early? Who knows, but regardless of your opinion on the topic, the first early recruits will later this fall, only a few months away.
Good luck to all of you, maybe this week is your turn to win a tee shirt. Better yet, maybe some coach will see your kid play and send him the questionnaire email...
Please...I think everyone on this thread agrees, including terps parents, that 91 Extreme is best at this age. No need to make excuses for Terps, they win their fair share against all opponents and when they lose, they do so with a little dignity.
No need for excuses, you all know how good they are. Plenty of D-1 commits will come from this team, and that is the focus now, not another tee shirt, we have a whole drawer full...
For all of you that think the coaches aren't watching, you are making a mistake. Last two weeks at adrenaline and then at Dukes invitational, all the big boys were there and watching these 8th grade boys compete. Is it too early? Who knows, but regardless of your opinion on the topic, the first early recruits will later this fall, only a few months away.
Good luck to all of you, maybe this week is your turn to win a tee shirt. Better yet, maybe some coach will see your kid play and send him the questionnaire email...
You could not be more on target. From here on out for this grade, it's not about wins and loses, its about exposure. Kids are getting contacted by multiple D1 schools. That's a reality. Not heard about any offers yet, but the communication is there.
So how do you get your kid exposure? Is that from Club team playing in the right tourneys? (eg Adrenaline?) For next year, what are the right tourneys for rising sophomores? Is that from trying out for the Jake Reeds/Brines? Is that from going to showcases?
Where is the tristar lax clash schedule??
It's like the OBLL,.....you will get Friday night!
Actually it was posted on the website this afternoon
If someone can explain Sundays schedule...it would be appreciated!!
Where is the tristar lax clash schedule??
It's like the OBLL,.....you will get Friday night!
Actually it was posted on the website this afternoon
we are no experts on this recruiting game. But I think for someone to get looked at it either needs to be a small venue or the coaches are going to a large venue specifically to see that kid (and the only way that happens is if that kid sends something proactively to coach). Clubs get into events and I had one in LI Lax fest, but there were 16 fields and 1000s of kids. No way to stand out long enough to get exposure and I didn't see any coaches on the rising 8th grade sidelines, but maybe I missed them. WHereas other poster, if being hoenst said there were a bunch at Dukes and Adrenaline and both of those were very small events...
For JR, I think anyone who made that list and is attending from this grade got those form letter emails from various programs asking for info about the player. I have seen Ohio state, Michigan, ND, UNC and one other, but those were all form letter emails.
I am not sure how or when you know when a school is serious unless they call your coach and tell him...
So how do you get your kid exposure? Is that from Club team playing in the right tourneys? (eg Adrenaline?) For next year, what are the right tourneys for rising sophomores? Is that from trying out for the Jake Reeds/Brines? Is that from going to showcases?
send e-mails to the schools that you are interested in and go to their prospect days
prospect days are also a money making event. I heard they were good two years back but now seems like i have 20 emails about them...at $200 per pop.
Who has more d-1 caliber players? Jesters black, outlaws black, or tribe? A little early for this but just wondering
Who has more d-1 caliber players? Jesters black, outlaws black, or tribe? A little early for this but just wondering
Stop!
Who has more d-1 caliber players? Jesters black, outlaws black, or tribe? A little early for this but just wondering
The D-1 Coaches will make those decisions, our opinions mean nothing. I don't think it's appropriate for anyone to be making assumptions about any individual team or its players. Best to all the boys and their future College Lacrosse aspirations.
What a silly , stupid question to ask.
[quote=Anonymous]Who has more d-1 caliber players? Jesters black, outlaws black, or tribe? A little early for this but just wondering
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Jesters
4 D1
2 D2
7 D3
Outlaws
2 D1
2 D2
11 D3
Tribe
5 D1
0 D2
8 D3
[quote=Anonymous]Who has more d-1 caliber players? Jesters black, outlaws black, or tribe? A little early for this but just wondering
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Jesters
4 D1
2 D2
7 D3
Outlaws
2 D1
2 D2
11 D3
Tribe
5 D1
0 D2
8 D3
Come on, these are 13 and 14 year old kids, STOP IT. No one knows where any of these kids will play. This is really disrespectful territory. Let the kids be!
we are no experts on this recruiting game. But I think for someone to get looked at it either needs to be a small venue or the coaches are going to a large venue specifically to see that kid (and the only way that happens is if that kid sends something proactively to coach). Clubs get into events and I had one in LI Lax fest, but there were 16 fields and 1000s of kids. No way to stand out long enough to get exposure and I didn't see any coaches on the rising 8th grade sidelines, but maybe I missed them. WHereas other poster, if being hoenst said there were a bunch at Dukes and Adrenaline and both of those were very small events...
For JR, I think anyone who made that list and is attending from this grade got those form letter emails from various programs asking for info about the player. I have seen Ohio state, Michigan, ND, UNC and one other, but those were all form letter emails.
I am not sure how or when you know when a school is serious unless they call your coach and tell him...
Brine sent out a similar thing yesterday for form letters. This is all very confusing. Can't wait for the Brine next week they have parent recruiting seminars, recruiting 101. I don't mind going to these events. However, I would like to see past results. Meaning this kid got a commitment because he attended that showcase. Sort of performance stats. One interesting fact about the Brine was they asked, if possible, to not wear club helmets.
Can any 2018 team who played at laxfest 2018 honestly say they do not have ONE player who is not born before 12/1 1999? That is cutoff date for an actual 2018 in NY. It is actually earlier in all other states but we will give them the couple of month window!
Do not think we will have too many teams speak up here!
I sat through a recruiting 101 in Florida at Blue chip try outs. It was helpful, but there really are no answers. the most common thing I have heard is that you will know when your kid is being recruited. I guess that means the colleges are persistent if they want your child.
The emails that say Dear Kid, i am coach of blah blah and while rules prohibit me from calling you...I can send this email requesting that you fill out the attached questionnaire...
We have a bunch but I think as previous poster said, this is just from the JR camp. Probably sent the coaches the list of participants and then someone in coach's office sends a form letter. I think filling out those forms is a good idea but I think a follow up email with "where I will be playing this summer" is good form. Further, if you know where you would like to go, I would also invest in a highlight real, home made looks fine to me and send that out as well.
then, let the chips fall where they fall...
we are no experts on this recruiting game. But I think for someone to get looked at it either needs to be a small venue or the coaches are going to a large venue specifically to see that kid (and the only way that happens is if that kid sends something proactively to coach). Clubs get into events and I had one in LI Lax fest, but there were 16 fields and 1000s of kids. No way to stand out long enough to get exposure and I didn't see any coaches on the rising 8th grade sidelines, but maybe I missed them. WHereas other poster, if being hoenst said there were a bunch at Dukes and Adrenaline and both of those were very small events...
For JR, I think anyone who made that list and is attending from this grade got those form letter emails from various programs asking for info about the player. I have seen Ohio state, Michigan, ND, UNC and one other, but those were all form letter emails.
I am not sure how or when you know when a school is serious unless they call your coach and tell him...
Brine sent out a similar thing yesterday for form letters. This is all very confusing. Can't wait for the Brine next week they have parent recruiting seminars, recruiting 101. I don't mind going to these events. However, I would like to see past results. Meaning this kid got a commitment because he attended that showcase. Sort of performance stats. One interesting fact about the Brine was they asked, if possible, to not wear club helmets.
IMHO...for upcoming freshman - Having a good travel team is important. In the summer, making the Rising Freshman Brine team (& doing well in it) will start your "looks". Doing the whole Nike Blue Chip JR thing is questionable. Some do well, others not so much. In the fall, making the Fall Philly Freshman Invitational AND making the "Fab 40" will get you on "the Radar". UNC & Duke Prospect Days are among the better for the $$. Go out and do well at the HS level..."playing with the Big Boys" can really help. At the end of Freshman year, The LI Lax Showcase is great place for looks (if you do well) Other than that, its all individual! I've heard many different stories but, this has worked for mine.
Can any 2018 team who played at laxfest 2018 honestly say they do not have ONE player who is not born before 12/1 1999? That is cutoff date for an actual 2018 in NY. It is actually earlier in all other states but we will give them the couple of month window!
Do not think we will have too many teams speak up here!
Not one single team claims to be actually legitimate 2018 by age!! Thought we would see one or two!
Really, you think Brine is better than JR? I was told just the opposite and that Brine was full of office politics. We didn't go that route based on what I heard, but maybe we should have.
I will let you know college recruiters after JR end of this week and perhaps you can share same after brine.
Can any 2018 team who played at laxfest 2018 honestly say they do not have ONE player who is not born before 12/1 1999? That is cutoff date for an actual 2018 in NY. It is actually earlier in all other states but we will give them the couple of month window!
Do not think we will have too many teams speak up here!
Well, then how many teams can claim U-14 - which according to US Lacrosse for 2018 is where these boys should fit
Can any 2018 team who played at laxfest 2018 honestly say they do not have ONE player who is not born before 12/1 1999? That is cutoff date for an actual 2018 in NY. It is actually earlier in all other states but we will give them the couple of month window!
Do not think we will have too many teams speak up here!
Well, then how many teams can claim U-14 - which according to US Lacrosse for 2018 is where these boys should fit
Jesters Black is 100 Percent 2018 and proper age for grade!
And the smallest 2018 in last weeks tournament.
Have you ever seen a U 14 tournament?
Can any 2018 team who played at laxfest 2018 honestly say they do not have ONE player who is not born before 12/1 1999? That is cutoff date for an actual 2018 in NY. It is actually earlier in all other states but we will give them the couple of month window!
Do not think we will have too many teams speak up here!
Not one single team claims to be actually legitimate 2018 by age!! Thought we would see one or two!
Actually there are, but would never post it here so you nut jobs could then start picking the team apart and singling out individual kids, accusing them of being older than they actually are. Everyone knows who the holdbacks are, trust me.
Can any 2018 team who played at laxfest 2018 honestly say they do not have ONE player who is not born before 12/1 1999? That is cutoff date for an actual 2018 in NY. It is actually earlier in all other states but we will give them the couple of month window!
Do not think we will have too many teams speak up here!
Well, then how many teams can claim U-14 - which according to US Lacrosse for 2018 is where these boys should fit
Team Long Island is a true U-14 but they can't play against the OLDER kids in the 2018 bracket!!! Lol. Comical
Can any 2018 team who played at laxfest 2018 honestly say they do not have ONE player who is not born before 12/1 1999? That is cutoff date for an actual 2018 in NY. It is actually earlier in all other states but we will give them the couple of month window!
Do not think we will have too many teams speak up here!
Not one single team claims to be actually legitimate 2018 by age!! Thought we would see one or two!
Actually there are, but would never post it here so you nut jobs could then start picking the team apart and singling out individual kids, accusing them of being older than they actually are. Everyone knows who the holdbacks are, trust me.
Yea sure! Thanks Laxachusettes Dad!
JR vs. Brine all depends on what you are looking for.
To date noboday has committed after the summer of the Rising Freshman season. However, the past two years several have committed after their Fall Freshman season.
The best part of this site is reading last year's 2017 and two years ago for 2016. A lot can be learned from past information.
Both events have high degrees of politics. It is easy to perceive Who You Know being as important as How You Play.
Really, you think Brine is better than JR? I was told just the opposite and that Brine was full of office politics. We didn't go that route based on what I heard, but maybe we should have.
I will let you know college recruiters after JR end of this week and perhaps you can share same after brine.
Brine summer between 8th and 9th. After that...not so much. The JR/3D thing can get expensive to have to "play in" going to Fla. in January. If you get right in, its all good! Good luck to your boy!
2018 Jester Black whole roster was born after Dec1 1999
Anyone know anything about the Philly Freshman Showcase in November. Worth going to ? Cost ?
Thanks
Anyone know anything about the Philly Freshman Showcase in November. Worth going to ? Cost ?
Thanks
It's okay.
my son just checked into Jake Reed and go a room on the third floor, does anybody know what that means? I assume it is better then the second floor but I can not see how he is not on the top floor. any insight or advice would be appreciated
thank you
my son just checked into Jake Reed and go a room on the third floor, does anybody know what that means? I assume it is better then the second floor but I can not see how he is not on the top floor. any insight or advice would be appreciated
thank you
I would ask for the concierge. That's unacceptable. I would go top floor or go home!!
my son just checked into Jake Reed and go a room on the third floor, does anybody know what that means? I assume it is better then the second floor but I can not see how he is not on the top floor. any insight or advice would be appreciated
thank you
At least he is not on 13......
Assume your post is a joke...so thanks for the laugh.
Check in is at the Stadium. Wrong registration
Can any 2018 team who played at laxfest 2018 honestly say they do not have ONE player who is not born before 12/1 1999? That is cutoff date for an actual 2018 in NY. It is actually earlier in all other states but we will give them the couple of month window!
Do not think we will have too many teams speak up here!
Well, then how many teams can claim U-14 - which according to US Lacrosse for 2018 is where these boys should fit
Jesters Black is 100 Percent 2018 and proper age for grade!
And the smallest 2018 in last weeks tournament.
Have you ever seen a U 14 tournament?
No! That would be pragmatic. That word isn't in the youth lax dictionary.
Anyone know anything about the Philly Freshman Showcase in November. Worth going to ? Cost ?
Thanks
Absolutely if he makes the Fab 40!
Just left 1st session of JR. No clue what coaches will actually show up to watch but can tell you that assistants from unc, virginia, hopkins, penn state, ohio state, sienna and a few others are actually coaching the teams. 2 d-1 coaches per team. hard to beat that kind of exposure
first series of real games at JR, no less than 18 big time coaches lining sideline watching rising 9th graders play. it is crazy to me but i guess that is the new path ...
Just left 1st session of JR. No clue what coaches will actually show up to watch but can tell you that assistants from unc, virginia, hopkins, penn state, ohio state, sienna and a few others are actually coaching the teams. 2 d-1 coaches per team. hard to beat that kind of exposure
Great. For those us whose kids aren't there. We don't care.
first series of real games at JR, no less than 18 big time coaches lining sideline watching rising 9th graders play. it is crazy to me but i guess that is the new path ...
Be careful what you wish for. You only have one chance to make a first impression. There are only a few kids that are ready to be seen by coaches. The rest should hope they don't get noticed in a bad way!
Also at JR. Like other poster said, lot of big time coaches around including the guys coaching the boys. Problem is that there is no opportunity to play. very selfish from all boys. Dodging two long poles? Boys open all over but no pass, I'll take the 15 yard shot...
Face offs? Three teams have fogo, two teams have none, one team has three????And even after it was made aware through quiet conversation.
JR gives exposure, but 75% is pure luck. All boys I have seen last two days are good, no weak links, but if you don't get the ball, if no one passes, how can you possibly stand out. Guess how the 3d system went over with the college coaches coaching the boys...Ask the Ohio state coach what he is running.
Attack rarely sees the ball, middies keep and dodge and shoot. Great attack kid I know didn't touch the ball in the last game, not one touch and he was dripping on the sidelines...hustling all over, but not one pass.
Outlaws fogo excellent and on a team by himself, but extreme fogo and terps fogo and fl$ fogo on same team and fighting for reps. Don't all those coaches on the sideline want to see them face each other?
Me, not happy with JR at all, so like last poster said, be careful what you wish for...
Maybe brine will be better (hopefully). JR cashed in, don't know what I would have done in his shoes, but I hope it would have been different...
JR a joke. Ball hogging all over. JR gave a speech about it, but apparently no one was listening.
Playing time seemed reasonably fair but i hear one team with three fogos upset...
Hopefully brine will be better. Gear was weak, but there were many coaches around.
Lots of disgruntled parent in this hotel.
Pass on JR class of 2019, JR not worth the florida trip to get in...
I hear that you can just pay a bit more to move floors
JR a joke. Ball hogging all over. JR gave a speech about it, but apparently no one was listening.
Playing time seemed reasonably fair but i hear one team with three fogos upset...
Hopefully brine will be better. Gear was weak, but there were many coaches around.
Lots of disgruntled parent in this hotel.
Pass on JR class of 2019, JR not worth the florida trip to get in...
Ball hogging happens everywhere, I highly recommend attending JR Nike Blue Chip, you need to start getting exposure and this event definitely did that.
JR a joke. Ball hogging all over. JR gave a speech about it, but apparently no one was listening.
Playing time seemed reasonably fair but i hear one team with three fogos upset...
Hopefully brine will be better. Gear was weak, but there were many coaches around.
Lots of disgruntled parent in this hotel.
Pass on JR class of 2019, JR not worth the florida trip to get in...
Ball hogging happens everywhere, I highly recommend attending JR Nike Blue Chip, you need to start getting exposure and this event definitely did that.
Yeah. But the parent of every offensive kid is telling their kid to fill the net.
JR a joke. Ball hogging all over. JR gave a speech about it, but apparently no one was listening.
Playing time seemed reasonably fair but i hear one team with three fogos upset...
Hopefully brine will be better. Gear was weak, but there were many coaches around.
Lots of disgruntled parent in this hotel.
Pass on JR class of 2019, JR not worth the florida trip to get in...
Ball hogging happens everywhere, I highly recommend attending JR Nike Blue Chip, you need to start getting exposure and this event definitely did that.
Yeah. But the parent of every offensive kid is telling their kid to fill the net.
Interestingly, that's not what the coaches are always looking for.... Sounds like for some it was good exposure, but for most it seems like it was a huge waste of time and money. Would that be accurate? Also, were there any kids from MD, PA, or MA, that were on age? Heard on a whole the LI kids looked undersized. Heard some kids were 2 years older?
Brine Nationals awesome!!!!!
[quote=Anonymous]Great showing for LI 2018 lacrosse!!!
Congratulations to the boys
Congrats to these boys and the work they put in. I hope they all play football, basketball, soccer or something else. It's okay to put the stick down now for a bit.
Long Island beat NY 9-5 at the Brine.
Long Island beat NY 9-5 at the Brine.
You mean Long Island beat Long Island 9-5...
Long Island beat NY 9-5 at the Brine.
You mean Long Island beat Long Island 9-5...
why do you say that? are there LI kids on NY team?
Long Island also beat New England, Texas, and Florida yesterday and earlier today. Playing DC tomorrow morning in opening round of championships.
LI, Texas, Carolina, Maryland and DC were loaded with talent.
There are TWO Long Island teams.
There are TWO Long Island teams.
Nomenclature, I guess.
Middle School Boys - Quarterfinal Pairings
Long Island vs. DC
New Jersey vs. New [lacrosse] (LI)
Carolina vs. Texas
Maryland vs. Illinois
Semis are at 10am - Finals at noon
Are there any write-up about the games?
Semifinal matchups:
Long Island vs. New Jersey
Maryland vs. Texas
Finals: Long Island vs. Texas
Long Island beat Texas 8-3 in the finals.
Finals: Long Island vs. Texas
Scores?
Way to go Long Island Boys !! Texas has football but Lacrosse is still our game......At least for a little while longer
Any more info than final score? What players stood out?
Any more info than final score? What players stood out?
Don't you already know, daddy? Or do you just need to see it in print? Loser!
Had the pleasure of watching both Long Island / Texas matchups - Texas clearly the second best team in tourney at Brine. Long Island barely lost a face off the whole time.
Carolina also good - Duke's Caputo coaching it with his kids playing...
Ok Long Island team faceoff kid Dad. Your constant self-promotion of your kid is so obvious and getting tiresome.
I heard it was a really badly run event. Was told Kids who never went to a tryout were allowed to play on teams. Some 7th graders. Dad's little
Boy. Total BS. The whole tryout process was corrupt and now hearing about what happened at the event; they continued with the corruption.
Not to sure why a guy like Caputo would associate his name and risk his reputation by allowing such corruption.
Exactly. All those posts are from the Dad's trying to get print recognition.
Why don't the MIAA boys try out for the Maryland Brine teams? Are they too busy with their Club teams?
He's part of the problem going over the radio extending all games 5 minutes longer because his team was behind. FACT.
congratulations 91 extreme on your big win at brine nationals
I was at the Brine, and no, my son was not on the winning team. You all can stop the nonsense. The event was a first class run event.
the boys were all top notch. too bad some intense parents coach their kids to hold on to the ball, score and worst - not get off the field. honestly, it was obvious to everyone who those kids (parents) were. didn't help them and didn't help the team. back off parents - let the kids and coaches play the game.
National 175
only two games
weak players
no college coaches
not priceless
we beat them 7 to 3 long island won
no ny was considered the B team Long island was A long island was selected as the most talented region so there were two teams ny B team and Long island A team
There were also fl$ Express and other kids on the teams half was 91 though
look who runs it. What did you expect? a load of bull as usual.
National 175
only two games
weak players
no college coaches
not priceless
Which National 175. If your talking about the one at Choate you must have not been there. It was 3 games and there were a ton of coaches there. Comp was good not the best but solid.
look who runs it. What did you expect? a load of bull as usual.
This is ridiculous. Cant we just be happy and proud for the boys. They went and beat some very good teams. Both our teams played well and that's what its all about. My son did not make it but many of his friends did. He was in constant contact with them and they all said they had a blast. Congratulations to the 2018 Boys from both Teams for doing so well and representing Long Island as well as you did.
I was told New [lacrosse] was a New [lacrosse] team and Not a Long Island B. They are two separate and distinct areas so it only makes sense they are two completely different and selected teams. Long Island is a suburb of New [lacrosse]. So I guess New [lacrosse] would be the more elite team and Long Island the sub team. Sounds like they played in a tougher division.
Doesn't matter. Good showing by both.
Long Island is always the best. Wins almost every year. The other team is for the boys who don't make LI, since there is enough talent to field two teams.
I was told New [lacrosse] was a New [lacrosse] team and Not a Long Island B. They are two separate and distinct areas so it only makes sense they are two completely different and selected teams. Long Island is a suburb of New [lacrosse]. So I guess New [lacrosse] would be the more elite team and Long Island the sub team. Sounds like they played in a tougher division.
Doesn't matter. Good showing by both.
You were told wrong. The NY team was mostly Long Island players. The more I read are you joking?
I just went to the roster and not one kid is from out of the 516 and 631 area codes on the New [lacrosse] roster
National 175
only two games
weak players
no college coaches
not priceless
Which National 175. If your talking about the one at Choate you must have not been there. It was 3 games and there were a ton of coaches there. Comp was good not the best but solid.
I didn't even know there was a 2018 at Choate, but this was in reference to today 7/4/2014 at Mitchel Field and it was pretty weak event for the 2018's seems like a lot of money for two games
National 175
only two games
weak players
no college coaches
not priceless
Which National 175. If your talking about the one at Choate you must have not been there. It was 3 games and there were a ton of coaches there. Comp was good not the best but solid.
I didn't even know there was a 2018 at Choate, but this was in reference to today 7/4/2014 at Mitchel Field and it was pretty weak event for the 2018's seems like a lot of money for two games
National 175
only two games
weak players
no college coaches
not priceless
Which National 175. If your talking about the one at Choate you must have not been there. It was 3 games and there were a ton of coaches there. Comp was good not the best but solid.
I didn't even know there was a 2018 at Choate, but this was in reference to today 7/4/2014 at Mitchel Field and it was pretty weak event for the 2018's seems like a lot of money for two games
2018's play tomorrow
National 175
only two games
weak players
no college coaches
not priceless
Which National 175. If your talking about the one at Choate you must have not been there. It was 3 games and there were a ton of coaches there. Comp was good not the best but solid.
I didn't even know there was a 2018 at Choate, but this was in reference to today 7/4/2014 at Mitchel Field and it was pretty weak event for the 2018's seems like a lot of money for two games
Wasn't today for the Stars and Stripes team which didn't include 2018..
New [lacrosse] was the more talented team. Pretty obvious that New [lacrosse] is the bigger pool and Long Island the smaller pool. They must have had the tougher division.
Not sure about the other brackets, but the botb for the 2018 group is a waste of $, from the individual showcase thru today. No balls on endline for afternoon games, 1 official per game, inexperienced teams. Clubs spent how much for entry free, 2k?? Botb = show me the money.
Not sure about the other brackets, but the botb for the 2018 group is a waste of $, from the individual showcase thru today. No balls on endline for afternoon games, 1 official per game, inexperienced teams. Clubs spent how much for entry free, 2k?? Botb = show me the money.
Express only A team In that bracket. Other side had 5 A teams. It's almost like they wrote the schedule. Out scored teams 70 to 4! Poorly done
Well, the terps also blew out team LI in finals, 8-2 or so... We however agree, not a very competitive tourny
Well, the terps also blew out team LI in finals, 8-2 or so... We however agree, not a very competitive tourny
All 32 Terps??? How many played? What is going on with that team?
If your not on the team why do you care how many? If you are on the team and not getting enough time, find a new home...
Express only A team In that bracket. Other side had 5 A teams. It's almost like they wrote the schedule. Out scored teams 70 to 4! Poorly done
The Red Devil team from NC managed to score 53 points for the weekend and were the overall 2nd leading points team. They just had no answer for the Express FOGO and suffered a big loss.
This team beat the Crabs earlier this year at MVP Blue Hen and last fall had wins over the Annapolis Hawks Green (at Hogan) and fl$ (fl$ 3d). They also finished 5th at [lacrosse]'s going 7-2 with their only losses to Madlax National in the quarter finals and an OT pool play loss to the GR Ironmen whom they had beaten previously. Not the best team in the land, but I don't think this is a B team and we look forward to playing whoever shows up at fl$ 3D in two weeks
If your not on the team why do you care how many? If you are on the team and not getting enough time, find a new home...
Yikes! Just asking a question. Sounds like I hit a nerve...
Yes Red devil team is competitive. I think Terps are just very strong this year at many positions...
National 175
only two games
weak players
no college coaches
not priceless
Which National 175. If your talking about the one at Choate you must have not been there. It was 3 games and there were a ton of coaches there. Comp was good not the best but solid.
I didn't even know there was a 2018 at Choate, but this was in reference to today 7/4/2014 at Mitchel Field and it was pretty weak event for the 2018's seems like a lot of money for two games
Wasn't today for the Stars and Stripes team which didn't include 2018..
There was a 2018 individual showcase Friday and then the team event was the weekend
There was a 2018 individual showcase Friday and then the team event was the weekend
There was an all star game Saturday night which was pretty good. Defenses had the upper hand and it was a low scoring game. Saw some good play from all the different helmets. I thought some of the passing was sloppy. Nice to see a few coaches on the sideline. I counted eight.
Yes Red devil team is competitive. I think Terps are just very strong this year at many positions...
Heard the Terps were hit with the injury bug and utilized the better players from the other teams. Sort of like a Varsity to JV relationship. And once you're on varsity you stay.
Yes Red devil team is competitive. I think Terps are just very strong this year at many positions...
Heard the Terps were hit with the injury bug and utilized the better players from the other teams. Sort of like a Varsity to JV relationship. And once you're on varsity you stay.
WUH!?
Yes Red devil team is competitive. I think Terps are just very strong this year at many positions...
Heard the Terps were hit with the injury bug and utilized the better players from the other teams. Sort of like a Varsity to JV relationship. And once you're on varsity you stay.
Actually they used reclassified players from Maryland, Duke and Princeton!
Not sure about the other brackets, but the botb for the 2018 group is a waste of $, from the individual showcase thru today. No balls on endline for afternoon games, 1 official per game, inexperienced teams. Clubs spent how much for entry free, 2k?? Botb = show me the money.
Express only A team In that bracket. Other side had 5 A teams. It's almost like they wrote the schedule. Out scored teams 70 to 4! Poorly done
Who were the 5 A teams in the other bracket? Team LI and Bucks select are both A teams, Red Devil club solid but they played terps in pool play and lost by like 10, but other than those which others did you consider A? Believe me, Terps don't like the 15-0 games at all.
Terps having a pretty good year so far, lost at Adrenaline in championship in overtime against Extreme and lost one in championship against the 2017 outlaws. Lost once or twice to Dukes and beat them 3 other times, lost a game to someone at Dukes invitational Mesa fresh? but beat their fair share...including madlax DC team.
This weekend at NXT in Philly should be great. All the tough teams and expect a bunch of colleges on the sidelines.
Not sure about the other brackets, but the botb for the 2018 group is a waste of $, from the individual showcase thru today. No balls on endline for afternoon games, 1 official per game, inexperienced teams. Clubs spent how much for entry free, 2k?? Botb = show me the money.
Express only A team In that bracket. Other side had 5 A teams. It's almost like they wrote the schedule. Out scored teams 70 to 4! Poorly done
Who were the 5 A teams in the other bracket? Team LI and Bucks select are both A teams, Red Devil club solid but they played terps in pool play and lost by like 10, but other than those which others did you consider A? Believe me, Terps don't like the 15-0 games at all.
Terps having a pretty good year so far, lost at Adrenaline in championship in overtime against Extreme and lost one in championship against the 2017 outlaws. Lost once or twice to Dukes and beat them 3 other times, lost a game to someone at Dukes invitational Mesa fresh? but beat their fair share...including madlax DC team.
This weekend at NXT in Philly should be great. All the tough teams and expect a bunch of colleges on the sidelines.
If Terps didn't want to win every game by 15 they would have balanced brackets. Jesters didn't have great showing here but played Bucks to a one or two goal game and made finals of Laxfest (assuming same team) few weeks ago. CT chargers played all games close, certainly an A team, and Steps won every game or played tight in 2 or 3 goal games. Steps has kids from a bunch of NJ A teams all playing together Teams in other bracket were B - caliber except Terps and Red Devil. Evolve who was winless would have gone 3 and 2 on other side!
Sorry, didn't mean to put down any teams, didn't know Jesters were there...and never heard of steps.
Terps handled both Red Devil and Team LI pretty easily so not sure that changing the brackets would have changed the outcome...but who knows such things.
Not sure about the other brackets, but the botb for the 2018 group is a waste of $, from the individual showcase thru today. No balls on endline for afternoon games, 1 official per game, inexperienced teams. Clubs spent how much for entry free, 2k?? Botb = show me the money.
Express only A team In that bracket. Other side had 5 A teams. It's almost like they wrote the schedule. Out scored teams 70 to 4! Poorly done
Who were the 5 A teams in the other bracket? Team LI and Bucks select are both A teams, Red Devil club solid but they played terps in pool play and lost by like 10, but other than those which others did you consider A? Believe me, Terps don't like the 15-0 games at all.
Terps having a pretty good year so far, lost at Adrenaline in championship in overtime against Extreme and lost one in championship against the 2017 outlaws. Lost once or twice to Dukes and beat them 3 other times, lost a game to someone at Dukes invitational Mesa fresh? but beat their fair share...including madlax DC team.
This weekend at NXT in Philly should be great. All the tough teams and expect a bunch of colleges on the sidelines.
If Terps didn't want to win every game by 15 they would have balanced brackets. Jesters didn't have great showing here but played Bucks to a one or two goal game and made finals of Laxfest (assuming same team) few weeks ago. CT chargers played all games close, certainly an A team, and Steps won every game or played tight in 2 or 3 goal games. Steps has kids from a bunch of NJ A teams all playing together Teams in other bracket were B - caliber except Terps and Red Devil. Evolve who was winless would have gone 3 and 2 on other side!
I M O... you put a lot of thought into what you feel was unjust. At the end of the day, the stronger, more skilled team won. A bracket, B team, who really cares. There are so many critics out there, why don't you put on your own event and let's see how you do. The second best team at this event were the Red Devil team from NC, they would have probably beat Team LI the way they did the other teams in their bracket, so they (Team LI) were lucky to have been placed into bracket where all the teams were fairly equal.
Terps, contrary to your comment, didn't make the brackets. It wasn't even their tournament, it was 175...
Terps tournament was the week before and the Terps beat all comers including Laxachusets and Dukes back to back...
THe lacrosse gods are not out to get the Jesters. THey have a very decent team, but chances of them beating terps or extreme or team LI are slim. I think team LI gave you a pretty good beating this weekend?
Relax, you have a good team, you should offer two or three kids from each of the terps and extreme scholarships next year and then you can beat everyone...
Terps, contrary to your comment, didn't make the brackets. It wasn't even their tournament, it was 175...
Terps tournament was the week before and the Terps beat all comers including Laxachusets and Dukes back to back...
THe lacrosse gods are not out to get the Jesters. THey have a very decent team, but chances of them beating terps or extreme or team LI are slim. I think team LI gave you a pretty good beating.
Relax, you have a good team, you should offer two or three kids from each of the terps and extreme scholarships next year and then you can beat everyone...
Jester parent here, I have to agree with you. We have not beat Extreme terps or team li. We have a solid on age team with zero holdbacks. On average, except for a few kids, we have one of the smallest teams in 2018. We Gave Extreme a solid game at Shamrock and they beat us easily at Laxfest in finals. We played Terps solid in spring with a 1 goal game at the half. Team LI just way to big for us. We have some very strong on age players, give us five hold backs or team li rising 10th graders and it's a different team. No complaints or excuses here, we are what our record says we are. However, throw in birth certificate rule with Dec 1 cut off, and you could make a really nice 2017 team from all the kids that couldnt play from, Extreme, Terps, Bucks, Steps and Red Devil. Again no excuses, its just a fact.
Terps, contrary to your comment, didn't make the brackets. It wasn't even their tournament, it was 175...
Terps tournament was the week before and the Terps beat all comers including Laxachusets and Dukes back to back...
THe lacrosse gods are not out to get the Jesters. THey have a very decent team, but chances of them beating terps or extreme or team LI are slim. I think team LI gave you a pretty good beating this weekend?
Relax, you have a good team, you should offer two or three kids from each of the terps and extreme scholarships next year and then you can beat everyone...
Terps were best team there and Team LI second. Ended the way it should have. How they got there much different. Sure terps would have prefered to play some more competitive games. Not sure what Jesters has to do with all that?
I can't speak for every terp kid, but mine is on age and on appropriate grade team. I have heard there is one hold back but can't confirm or deny. we have been with this team for years and more important than wins and losses, good kids with good families for most part.
team LI is age appropriate and always has been. they do have a couple of boys that I have been told are young rising sophomores. Would rather play them than teams like the crabs where most of the team is a year plus older.
I don't know about extreme, so but you certainly are overreaching with terps and team LI.
Terps played a five quarter scrimmage against jesters in the spring. Jesters scored a few real quick goals for an early lead. Took a little bit but it was not a close game.
these jester parents have an insecurity complex...they are a good team but really are out of their league with Dukes, Crabs, Terps, extreme...doesn't make them bad people, doesn't mean their kids aren't getting better, it just means for today, they are simply not at the same level.
You should know, the other teams are no longer playing to win tournaments, they are playing to get the kids opportunities to be seen by college coaches. We don't need any more tee shirts...
Terps played a five quarter scrimmage against jesters in the spring. Jesters scored a few real quick goals for an early lead. Took a little bit but it was not a close game.
these jester parents have an insecurity complex...they are a good team but really are out of their league with Dukes, Crabs, Terps, extreme...doesn't make them bad people, doesn't mean their kids aren't getting better, it just means for today, they are simply not at the same level.
You should know, the other teams are no longer playing to win tournaments, they are playing to get the kids opportunities to be seen by college coaches. We don't need any more tee shirts...
Jesters have never claimed to be better than extreme or terps. No insecurity. Not looking for tee shirts. Can't speak for others but i am looking for my son to play the best teams and see high caliber competition. He won't get better winning B tournaments.
Terps, contrary to your comment, didn't make the brackets. It wasn't even their tournament, it was 175...
Terps tournament was the week before and the Terps beat all comers including Laxachusets and Dukes back to back...
THe lacrosse gods are not out to get the Jesters. THey have a very decent team, but chances of them beating terps or extreme or team LI are slim. I think team LI gave you a pretty good beating.
Relax, you have a good team, you should offer two or three kids from each of the terps and extreme scholarships next year and then you can beat everyone...
Jester parent here, I have to agree with you. We have not beat Extreme terps or team li. We have a solid on age team with zero holdbacks. On average, except for a few kids, we have one of the smallest teams in 2018. We Gave Extreme a solid game at Shamrock and they beat us easily at Laxfest in finals. We played Terps solid in spring with a 1 goal game at the half. Team LI just way to big for us. We have some very strong on age players, give us five hold backs or team li rising 10th graders and it's a different team. No complaints or excuses here, we are what our record says we are. However, throw in birth certificate rule with Dec 1 cut off, and you could make a really nice 2017 team from all the kids that couldnt play from, Extreme, Terps, Bucks, Steps and Red Devil. Again no excuses, its just a fact.
Jester parent, fyi TLI had 2 rising 9th graders and not one of them scored a goal or had an assist.i bet you could not pick them out. You have a good team,no need for explanations .
Take this from a 2017 parent passing along. Skip Brine next year. Total rip off. $175 tryout, then $200 tournament for a couple of days. All that is a gateway to further emptying your pockets. Nobody needs an online recruiting profile for $240 a year. Noone wants a recruiting event where the only interest of the colleges attending or coaching is to use the registration lists to solicit for their camps and clinics. Classic lacrosse pyramid scheme.
If they are rising Soph or Frosh, I honestly don't care as long as they were born after 8/31/99. I have more of an issue of kids that plays 2018 born before that date. At least on the youth level, which our boys are growing out of. Perhaps this is the reason we saw more parity this year.
If they are rising Soph or Frosh, I honestly don't care as long as they were born after 8/31/99. I have more of an issue of kids that plays 2018 born before that date. At least on the youth level, which our boys are growing out of. Perhaps this is the reason we saw more parity this year.
If you have one kid who has been in HS you shouldn't be playing in 2018 tournament. Regardless of how many goals they score. Should play 2017 or U15 tournaments. There are very few rules about age, but this is actually one of them.
Terps played a five quarter scrimmage against jesters in the spring. Jesters scored a few real quick goals for an early lead. Took a little bit but it was not a close game.
these jester parents have an insecurity complex...they are a good team but really are out of their league with Dukes, Crabs, Terps, extreme...doesn't make them bad people, doesn't mean their kids aren't getting better, it just means for today, they are simply not at the same level.
You should know, the other teams are no longer playing to win tournaments, they are playing to get the kids opportunities to be seen by college coaches. We don't need any more tee shirts...
Relax. No need to assert your teams superiority. I've not seen anyone from Jesters claim to be on the same "level" as Terps or Extreme.
Our team just wants to play the best competition and get our kids better and better. Our kids are not going to improve playing down.
Really no need for you to imply that our kids are still playing for Tee Shirts. No need for you to be so silly and condescending.
Best of luck to your kids the rest of the way.
Take this from a 2017 parent passing along. Skip Brine next year. Total rip off. $175 tryout, then $200 tournament for a couple of days. All that is a gateway to further emptying your pockets. Nobody needs an online recruiting profile for $240 a year. Noone wants a recruiting event where the only interest of the colleges attending or coaching is to use the registration lists to solicit for their camps and clinics. Classic lacrosse pyramid scheme.
You are so off the mark, the Academy Class is for them to get exposed to playing with other good players with which they normally would not, also, it allows them to play against other top players throughout the country and make some new friends. If you go into this with the idea that it is for recruiting, you have it wrong. If they are fortunate enough to make the Rising Sophomore team or the HS team, that is where the recruiting comes into play, I watched a few of those games and there were a lot of coaches on the sidelines taking notes. So, since you probably were not even there, stop the nonsense. I know my son had a great time and made a lot of new friends.
Take this from a 2017 parent passing along. Skip Brine next year. Total rip off. $175 tryout, then $200 tournament for a couple of days. All that is a gateway to further emptying your pockets. Nobody needs an online recruiting profile for $240 a year. Noone wants a recruiting event where the only interest of the colleges attending or coaching is to use the registration lists to solicit for their camps and clinics. Classic lacrosse pyramid scheme.
this is much less than the Blue Chip, $50 registration fee, $550 tryout fee, $550 Blue Chip fee. did i mention that the tryout is in FL, airfare, car and hotel. This makes the Brine event a steal. yeah, your son probably did make that either.
Take this from a 2017 parent passing along. Skip Brine next year. Total rip off. $175 tryout, then $200 tournament for a couple of days. All that is a gateway to further emptying your pockets. Nobody needs an online recruiting profile for $240 a year. Noone wants a recruiting event where the only interest of the colleges attending or coaching is to use the registration lists to solicit for their camps and clinics. Classic lacrosse pyramid scheme.
From another 2017 parent here, Brine was a great event and the kids had a great time representing Long Island, if you are worrying about recruiting only don't bother, if your kid wants to go and have fun and compete against the rest of the country go ave fun. more the three quarters of the HS team was already committed and they had a great time.
Take this from a 2017 parent passing along. Skip Brine next year. Total rip off. $175 tryout, then $200 tournament for a couple of days. All that is a gateway to further emptying your pockets. Nobody needs an online recruiting profile for $240 a year. Noone wants a recruiting event where the only interest of the colleges attending or coaching is to use the registration lists to solicit for their camps and clinics. Classic lacrosse pyramid scheme.
From another 2017 parent here, Brine was a great event and the kids had a great time representing Long Island, if you are worrying about recruiting only don't bother, if your kid wants to go and have fun and compete against the rest of the country go ave fun. more the three quarters of the HS team was already committed and they had a great time.
Nice! someone who is also looking at something other than recruiting. LAX should also be fun for the boys (and girls) once in a while.
Take this from a 2017 parent passing along. Skip Brine next year. Total rip off. $175 tryout, then $200 tournament for a couple of days. All that is a gateway to further emptying your pockets. Nobody needs an online recruiting profile for $240 a year. Noone wants a recruiting event where the only interest of the colleges attending or coaching is to use the registration lists to solicit for their camps and clinics. Classic lacrosse pyramid scheme.
From another 2017 parent here, Brine was a great event and the kids had a great time representing Long Island, if you are worrying about recruiting only don't bother, if your kid wants to go and have fun and compete against the rest of the country go ave fun. more the three quarters of the HS team was already committed and they had a great time.
Nice! someone who is also looking at something other than recruiting. LAX should also be fun for the boys (and girls) once in a while.
Not to argue back. Looking for fun, fine. If looking at this as a showcase with an outcome, forget it. Brine does sell it as a big recruiting thing, which to be candid is a joke. It basically passes your info onto the direct mail guys who want you at their camps, clinics or "exclusive" showcases. My spam email box is bursting this week.
Igloo just announced their tryouts for next year and it includes a U 15 team. Interesting.
Igloo U15 should be loaded with north shore wealthy kids that have low lacrosse ambitions - It will take more then nice tents and cool gear to get top players to leave current teams
Igloo just announced their tryouts for next year and it includes a U 15 team. Interesting.
$3500 tuition -wow ! Site did list a lot, so to be be fair I guess I would have to add up all the a la carte things I paid in addition to tuition. Don't think it would even approach $2500. Wonder who is behind the 2018 team ? A strange age to start a team, especially with the gaps at 2020,2019.
And the 1st 2018 Commit is ?????
Well lets just say it has happened
Story at 11
Igloo just announced their tryouts for next year and it includes a U 15 team. Interesting.
$3500 tuition -wow ! Site did list a lot, so to be be fair I guess I would have to add up all the a la carte things I paid in addition to tuition. Don't think it would even approach $2500. Wonder who is behind the 2018 team ? A strange age to start a team, especially with the gaps at 2020,2019.
actually it is U15 so I guess both 2018 & 2019.
My son did Express this year, and last year we were at 91; both ended up costing me around $3,800 plus when I did all their suggestive training and bought all their equipment. Sounds expensive but when I really looked at what my son would be getting I think it may be worth it. Everything is included!
Igloo just announced their tryouts for next year and it includes a U 15 team. Interesting.
$3500 tuition -wow ! Site did list a lot, so to be be fair I guess I would have to add up all the a la carte things I paid in addition to tuition. Don't think it would even approach $2500. Wonder who is behind the 2018 team ? A strange age to start a team, especially with the gaps at 2020,2019.
actually it is U15 so I guess both 2018 & 2019.
They must have a core group or a coach that knows they can produce a competitive team. I say that with zero knowledge. U15 is a great year Dicks, Lake Placid and Florida Nationals. Plus a whole lot of recruiting things.
And the 1st 2018 Commit is ?????
Well lets just say it has happened
Story at 11
Saw a Turtle is going to Penn via Xander tweet. Nothing on 2018's.
Igloo just announced their tryouts for next year and it includes a U 15 team. Interesting.
$3500 tuition -wow ! Site did list a lot, so to be be fair I guess I would have to add up all the a la carte things I paid in addition to tuition. Don't think it would even approach $2500. Wonder who is behind the 2018 team ? A strange age to start a team, especially with the gaps at 2020,2019.
actually it is U15 so I guess both 2018 & 2019.
They must have a core group or a coach that knows they can produce a competitive team. I say that with zero knowledge. U15 is a great year Dicks, Lake Placid and Florida Nationals. Plus a whole lot of recruiting things.
Ohh you mean like Legacy tried this year. Look where that got them. The B slashers team was better than the A carnage team because of political crap from the very start of the season. Carnage has imploded not enough players to field a team. Good luck Igloo with fielding a 2018 team.
Igloo just announced their tryouts for next year and it includes a U 15 team. Interesting.
$3500 tuition -wow ! Site did list a lot, so to be be fair I guess I would have to add up all the a la carte things I paid in addition to tuition. Don't think it would even approach $2500. Wonder who is behind the 2018 team ? A strange age to start a team, especially with the gaps at 2020,2019.
actually it is U15 so I guess both 2018 & 2019.
They must have a core group or a coach that knows they can produce a competitive team. I say that with zero knowledge. U15 is a great year Dicks, Lake Placid and Florida Nationals. Plus a whole lot of recruiting things.
Ohh you mean like Legacy tried this year. Look where that got them. The B slashers team was better than the A carnage team because of political crap from the very start of the season. Carnage has imploded not enough players to field a team. Good luck Igloo with fielding a 2018 team.
I would agree that there must be a parent(s) that approached them with a group or core players to build around. Pure speculation on my part but we have seen this is how things are done. My guess is a certain man behind the curtain of a team named for a certain type of shark that has tried to put a team together the last few years that hasn't produced results....or maybe not !
Just got this e-mail from National 175, they must not have seen any scores from the Terps games....this has got to be a joke.....
Greetings to everyone that attended the Best of the Best Tournament and Showcase this past weekend,
Thank you for attending our event. We believe it was the most competitive tournament of the year with teams coming from all over the country, bringing really strong and impressive teams, and covering most of the lacrosse hot spots as well as spots previously less known as lacrosse spots, competing over a 3-day period. Indeed, many college coaches we spoke with stated, “There were a great many very talented athletes assembled for this event.”
It was truly a very competitive event with so many of the games, if not most of them, ending in a 1-3 goal differential which is exactly what you want to see as a college coach recruiting, or an event organizer. Blow-outs are simply no fun to either side so we do our best to assemble the best of the best and if you attended this event, you would most likely agree that that is what we brought together for this event.
I think most of the HS games (2015-2017) were comepetitive.
Youth games not so much.
Igloo just announced their tryouts for next year and it includes a U 15 team. Interesting.
$3500 tuition -wow ! Site did list a lot, so to be be fair I guess I would have to add up all the a la carte things I paid in addition to tuition. Don't think it would even approach $2500. Wonder who is behind the 2018 team ? A strange age to start a team, especially with the gaps at 2020,2019.
actually it is U15 so I guess both 2018 & 2019.
They must have a core group or a coach that knows they can produce a competitive team. I say that with zero knowledge. U15 is a great year Dicks, Lake Placid and Florida Nationals. Plus a whole lot of recruiting things.
Ohh you mean like Legacy tried this year. Look where that got them. The B slashers team was better than the A carnage team because of political crap from the very start of the season. Carnage has imploded not enough players to field a team. Good luck Igloo with fielding a 2018 team.
I would agree that there must be a parent(s) that approached them with a group or core players to build around. Pure speculation on my part but we have seen this is how things are done. My guess is a certain man behind the curtain of a team named for a certain type of shark that has tried to put a team together the last few years that hasn't produced results....or maybe not !
why be cryptic? everyone else on this board directly throws out speculation all the time. I bet if you called them and asked they would give you some information of what the plan for 2018 is
Just got this e-mail from National 175, they must not have seen any scores from the Terps games....this has got to be a joke.....
Greetings to everyone that attended the Best of the Best Tournament and Showcase this past weekend,
Thank you for attending our event. We believe it was the most competitive tournament of the year with teams coming from all over the country, bringing really strong and impressive teams, and covering most of the lacrosse hot spots as well as spots previously less known as lacrosse spots, competing over a 3-day period. Indeed, many college coaches we spoke with stated, “There were a great many very talented athletes assembled for this event.”
It was truly a very competitive event with so many of the games, if not most of them, ending in a 1-3 goal differential which is exactly what you want to see as a college coach recruiting, or an event organizer. Blow-outs are simply no fun to either side so we do our best to assemble the best of the best and if you attended this event, you would most likely agree that that is what we brought together for this event.
They apparently didn't see the officiating either. The absolute worst officiating I have ever seen at a youth lacrosse tournament. Just incredibly bad officiating on all sides, really hard to watch
And the 1st 2018 Commit is ?????
Well lets just say it has happened
Story at 11
Who?
First 8th 2018 off the board, picked up by UNC. The beginning of the end!
First 8th 2018 off the board, picked up by UNC. The beginning of the end!
So who did they get a commitment from? I don't see it anywhere...
And the 1st 2018 Commit is ?????
Well lets just say it has happened
Story at 11
Who?
His name is Drew Mifundsrlow. He is out of Mad Lax. He is representated by someone for the firm of Duey, Cheetum and Howe.
First 8th 2018 off the board, picked up by UNC. The beginning of the end!
LI boy? Staying with their town or going to St A or Chaminade?
i heard it was a kid from syosset with great hair and nice body. Who ever you are this is the kid BOOM!
Okay so who is the first?
i heard it was a kid from syosset with great hair and nice body. Who ever you are this is the kid BOOM!
his hair is not that nice and he turned the offer down
First 8th 2018 off the board, picked up by UNC. The beginning of the end!
So who did they get a commitment from? I don't see it anywhere...
Wow, J P ?
Igloo just announced their tryouts for next year and it includes a U 15 team. Interesting.
$3500 tuition -wow ! Site did list a lot, so to be be fair I guess I would have to add up all the a la carte things I paid in addition to tuition. Don't think it would even approach $2500. Wonder who is behind the 2018 team ? A strange age to start a team, especially with the gaps at 2020,2019.
actually it is U15 so I guess both 2018 & 2019.
They must have a core group or a coach that knows they can produce a competitive team. I say that with zero knowledge. U15 is a great year Dicks, Lake Placid and Florida Nationals. Plus a whole lot of recruiting things.
Ohh you mean like Legacy tried this year. Look where that got them. The B slashers team was better than the A carnage team because of political crap from the very start of the season. Carnage has imploded not enough players to field a team. Good luck Igloo with fielding a 2018 team.
Bash at the Beach schedule has both Legacy 2018 teams playing in same division , so I guess they found players.
Okay so who is the first?
It is a Prodigy out of China. His name is Wei Tu Yung! Kid is off the charts!!
Okay so who is the first?
I heard it was a tall lanky kid. His name is Sid Finch the second. His dad played for the Mets. He threw 108 miles an hour.
Igloo just announced their tryouts for next year and it includes a U 15 team. Interesting.
$3500 tuition -wow ! Site did list a lot, so to be be fair I guess I would have to add up all the a la carte things I paid in addition to tuition. Don't think it would even approach $2500. Wonder who is behind the 2018 team ? A strange age to start a team, especially with the gaps at 2020,2019.
actually it is U15 so I guess both 2018 & 2019.
They must have a core group or a coach that knows they can produce a competitive team. I say that with zero knowledge. U15 is a great year Dicks, Lake Placid and Florida Nationals. Plus a whole lot of recruiting things.
Ohh you mean like Legacy tried this year. Look where that got them. The B slashers team was better than the A carnage team because of political crap from the very start of the season. Carnage has imploded not enough players to field a team. Good luck Igloo with fielding a 2018 team.
Bash at the Beach schedule has both Legacy 2018 teams playing in same division , so I guess they found players.
Yeah, 2019 players and maybe some 2020 sprinkled in.
Igloo just announced their tryouts for next year and it includes a U 15 team. Interesting.
$3500 tuition -wow ! Site did list a lot, so to be be fair I guess I would have to add up all the a la carte things I paid in addition to tuition. Don't think it would even approach $2500. Wonder who is behind the 2018 team ? A strange age to start a team, especially with the gaps at 2020,2019.
actually it is U15 so I guess both 2018 & 2019.
They must have a core group or a coach that knows they can produce a competitive team. I say that with zero knowledge. U15 is a great year Dicks, Lake Placid and Florida Nationals. Plus a whole lot of recruiting things.
Ohh you mean like Legacy tried this year. Look where that got them. The B slashers team was better than the A carnage team because of political crap from the very start of the season. Carnage has imploded not enough players to field a team. Good luck Igloo with fielding a 2018 team.
Bash at the Beach schedule has both Legacy 2018 teams playing in same division , so I guess they found players.
They don't ever play at same time so kids will be doing a lot of running between games. This compilation of powerhouse teams will result in a Tomahawks vs Legacy Slashers final.
So it begins with ranking our 2018 boys...This guy is a 3d guy that was retweeted by J Munro...
Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Here we go-
Top 25 2018's by position
Only mentioning players I have seen
Asterisks are guys who are studs
@3dRising
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Attack:
Ross Pridemore (SWL)*
Nick Soloman (LB3)
Jake Kelly (FCA)
Javon Johnson (RWAR)*
Brian Antonelli (LAX)
Scott White (HHH)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Midfield:
Pat Skalniak (STS)
Isaiah Dawson (BRAB/WCS)*
Tate Young (LIE)*
Jadon Kerry (TMN)
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Midfield cont:
Jordan Donaghy (HHH)
Grayson Sallade (HHH)*
John John Lombardi (SWL)*
Greyson Wolfram (NES)
Luke Summers (HHH)
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Defense:
Frank Marinello (T91)*
Larson Tolo (3dNE)
Emmett Jones (3dOR)*
Brendan Brosnahan (LIE)
Mike Novitsky (SWL)
Brady Keneally (LIE)
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Goalie:
Mike Clibanoff (HHH)
Andrew Bonafede (LIE)*
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Face Off:
Joe Neuman (LIO)*
Mike Giaquinto (LIE)
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Also Impressed:
W. Murtagh (3dNE)
B. Murtagh (3dNE)
D. Erickson (3dNE)
S. Handley (3dOR)
G. Catlett (3dOR)
R. Nunes (3dCO)
H. Watts (3dCO)
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Also Impressed cont:
K Vandegrift (HHH)
Z Nelson (HHH)
Q McCahon (HHH)
M Clibanoff (HHH)
W Brake (MESA)
C Cordisco (MESA)
K Justice (PBR)
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Also Impressed cont:
G. Wichelns (T91)
S. Kuttin (T91)
L. Nolta (FCA)
B. Cameron (TOM)
H. Cheek (LAX)
H. Caponiti (NES)
J. Wornow (PAT)
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That's a wrap. Very early list, but, looking forward to seeing these guys develop & move up/down the list over the years.
Did a lot of kids leave Carnage team ?
So it begins with ranking our 2018 boys...This guy is a 3d guy that was retweeted by J Munro...
Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Here we go-
Top 25 2018's by position
Only mentioning players I have seen
Asterisks are guys who are studs
@3dRising
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Attack:
Ross Pridemore (SWL)*
Nick Soloman (LB3)
Jake Kelly (FCA)
Javon Johnson (RWAR)*
Brian Antonelli (LAX)
Scott White (HHH)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Midfield:
Pat Skalniak (STS)
Isaiah Dawson (BRAB/WCS)*
Tate Young (LIE)*
Jadon Kerry (TMN)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Midfield cont:
Jordan Donaghy (HHH)
Grayson Sallade (HHH)*
John John Lombardi (SWL)*
Greyson Wolfram (NES)
Luke Summers (HHH)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Defense:
Frank Marinello (T91)*
Larson Tolo (3dNE)
Emmett Jones (3dOR)*
Brendan Brosnahan (LIE)
Mike Novitsky (SWL)
Brady Keneally (LIE)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Goalie:
Mike Clibanoff (HHH)
Andrew Bonafede (LIE)*
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Face Off:
Joe Neuman (LIO)*
Mike Giaquinto (LIE)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Also Impressed:
W. Murtagh (3dNE)
B. Murtagh (3dNE)
D. Erickson (3dNE)
S. Handley (3dOR)
G. Catlett (3dOR)
R. Nunes (3dCO)
H. Watts (3dCO)
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Also Impressed cont:
K Vandegrift (HHH)
Z Nelson (HHH)
Q McCahon (HHH)
M Clibanoff (HHH)
W Brake (MESA)
C Cordisco (MESA)
K Justice (PBR)
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Also Impressed cont:
G. Wichelns (T91)
S. Kuttin (T91)
L. Nolta (FCA)
B. Cameron (TOM)
H. Cheek (LAX)
H. Caponiti (NES)
J. Wornow (PAT)
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That's a wrap. Very early list, but, looking forward to seeing these guys develop & move up/down the list over the years.
So has dukes beaten 91 Extreme recently that they have 9 kids on list and Extreme only has 3?
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So has dukes beaten 91 Extreme recently that they have 9 kids on list and Extreme only has 3?
You really need to learn how to read. He listed his top 25 and then a group 'also impressed."
There are 5 Terps in top 25, 1 for Extreme.
Overall, there are 3 Extreme (T91) listed and 5 Terps (LIE).
What does beating the Dukes have to do with this list?
Did a lot of kids leave Carnage team ?
I don't think the team ever got going in the right direction from the very beginning. Had a solid core but after the original coach was demoted to coach the B team about 6 players that were supposed to be on the A team which was Carnage followed their high school coach to Slashers the B team. After the shuffling of players it resulted in the Slashers being better than the A team. Then a number of players who made Carnage left after seeing the mess the team became. Some went to play on the B team and others went to other teams.
at least Ty Zanders has the illusion of unbiased independent journalism - this guy works for 3D and is paid to get kids to his camps and play on their teams, what a joke... I bet if Sal or Mike made up this list it might be slightly different
So it begins with ranking our 2018 boys...This guy is a 3d guy that was retweeted by J Munro...
Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Here we go-
Top 25 2018's by position
Only mentioning players I have seen
Asterisks are guys who are studs
@3dRising
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Attack:
Ross Pridemore (SWL)*
Nick Soloman (LB3)
Jake Kelly (FCA)
Javon Johnson (RWAR)*
Brian Antonelli (LAX)
Scott White (HHH)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Midfield:
Pat Skalniak (STS)
Isaiah Dawson (BRAB/WCS)*
Tate Young (LIE)*
Jadon Kerry (TMN)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Midfield cont:
Jordan Donaghy (HHH)
Grayson Sallade (HHH)*
John John Lombardi (SWL)*
Greyson Wolfram (NES)
Luke Summers (HHH)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Defense:
Frank Marinello (T91)*
Larson Tolo (3dNE)
Emmett Jones (3dOR)*
Brendan Brosnahan (LIE)
Mike Novitsky (SWL)
Brady Keneally (LIE)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Goalie:
Mike Clibanoff (HHH)
Andrew Bonafede (LIE)*
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Face Off:
Joe Neuman (LIO)*
Mike Giaquinto (LIE)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Also Impressed:
W. Murtagh (3dNE)
B. Murtagh (3dNE)
D. Erickson (3dNE)
S. Handley (3dOR)
G. Catlett (3dOR)
R. Nunes (3dCO)
H. Watts (3dCO)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Also Impressed cont:
K Vandegrift (HHH)
Z Nelson (HHH)
Q McCahon (HHH)
M Clibanoff (HHH)
W Brake (MESA)
C Cordisco (MESA)
K Justice (PBR)
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Also Impressed cont:
G. Wichelns (T91)
S. Kuttin (T91)
L. Nolta (FCA)
B. Cameron (TOM)
H. Cheek (LAX)
H. Caponiti (NES)
J. Wornow (PAT)
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That's a wrap. Very early list, but, looking forward to seeing these guys develop & move up/down the list over the years.
So has dukes beaten 91 Extreme recently that they have 9 kids on list and Extreme only has 3?
Assume the guys from MD. Because based on results from Brine and recent tournament play he must not have seen what the Long Island boys have done to these other teams. Like both 2018 team Terps and Extreme in finals of Adrenaline Platinum Cup and Extreme beating the Annapolis Hawks in finals of fl$. Was pretty sure that team Long Island handled all comers easily at Brine. Its all hype.
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So has dukes beaten 91 Extreme recently that they have 9 kids on list and Extreme only has 3?
You really need to learn how to read. He listed his top 25 and then a group 'also impressed."
There are 5 Terps in top 25, 1 for Extreme.
Overall, there are 3 Extreme (T91) listed and 5 Terps (LIE).
What does beating the Dukes have to do with this list?
Ahh, a lot. If a team has better players they usually win the games.
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So has dukes beaten 91 Extreme recently that they have 9 kids on list and Extreme only has 3?
You really need to learn how to read. He listed his top 25 and then a group 'also impressed."
There are 5 Terps in top 25, 1 for Extreme.
Overall, there are 3 Extreme (T91) listed and 5 Terps (LIE).
What does beating the Dukes have to do with this list?
I was not the original poster but I think he reads just fine. 5 Dukes on the main list and another 4 on the watch list and only one 91 player on the main list and 2 additional on the watch list and 91 is the best team in the country at this age makes zero sense. and I am a terp parent
Danehy is from Boston, MA.
So it begins with ranking our 2018 boys...This guy is a 3d guy that was retweeted by J Munro...
Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Here we go-
Top 25 2018's by position
Only mentioning players I have seen
Asterisks are guys who are studs
@3dRising
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Attack:
Ross Pridemore (SWL)*
Nick Soloman (LB3)
Jake Kelly (FCA)
Javon Johnson (RWAR)*
Brian Antonelli (LAX)
Scott White (HHH)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Midfield:
Pat Skalniak (STS)
Isaiah Dawson (BRAB/WCS)*
Tate Young (LIE)*
Jadon Kerry (TMN)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Midfield cont:
Jordan Donaghy (HHH)
Grayson Sallade (HHH)*
John John Lombardi (SWL)*
Greyson Wolfram (NES)
Luke Summers (HHH)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Defense:
Frank Marinello (T91)*
Larson Tolo (3dNE)
Emmett Jones (3dOR)*
Brendan Brosnahan (LIE)
Mike Novitsky (SWL)
Brady Keneally (LIE)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Goalie:
Mike Clibanoff (HHH)
Andrew Bonafede (LIE)*
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Face Off:
Joe Neuman (LIO)*
Mike Giaquinto (LIE)
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Ryan Danehy ‏@RPDLacrosse Jul 7
Also Impressed:
W. Murtagh (3dNE)
B. Murtagh (3dNE)
D. Erickson (3dNE)
S. Handley (3dOR)
G. Catlett (3dOR)
R. Nunes (3dCO)
H. Watts (3dCO)
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Also Impressed cont:
K Vandegrift (HHH)
Z Nelson (HHH)
Q McCahon (HHH)
M Clibanoff (HHH)
W Brake (MESA)
C Cordisco (MESA)
K Justice (PBR)
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Also Impressed cont:
G. Wichelns (T91)
S. Kuttin (T91)
L. Nolta (FCA)
B. Cameron (TOM)
H. Cheek (LAX)
H. Caponiti (NES)
J. Wornow (PAT)
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That's a wrap. Very early list, but, looking forward to seeing these guys develop & move up/down the list over the years.
So has dukes beaten 91 Extreme recently that they have 9 kids on list and Extreme only has 3?
Assume the guys from MD. Because based on results from Brine and recent tournament play he must not have seen what the Long Island boys have done to these other teams. Like both 2018 team Terps and Extreme in finals of Adrenaline Platinum Cup and Extreme beating the Annapolis Hawks in finals of fl$. Was pretty sure that team Long Island handled all comers easily at Brine. Its all hype.
He is from MA, his pick for is primarily for the top 25 (that he has seen), which seems diverse.
He clearly said based on the boys he has seen, so there are others he just might not have seen.
Hype or not, the names I recognize are worthy...congrats to those boys and certainly other names that are missing. They will have their time.
Notwithstanding the list (congrats to those boys) looking forward to a potential terps v extreme rematch this weekend in Philly NXT. Don't know how many other teams on the list will be competitive, but Team LI and Outlaws, blue crabs and a couple of others always good...
Should be Terps vs Extreme tomorrow. They should just stay on LI and play.
Both terps and extreme upset in semis. Terps lose to NH Tomahacks 8-7 and extreme falls to fca 7-4...
Well the referees were obviously against the Long Island teams. Terps beat Dukes HHH 2 weekends ago by 5 or 6 goals. HHH beat tomahawks.
Well the referees were obviously against the Long Island teams. Terps beat Dukes HHH 2 weekends ago by 5 or 6 goals. HHH beat tomahawks.
Only explanation. It had to be the refs!!
Well the referees were obviously against the Long Island teams. Terps beat Dukes HHH 2 weekends ago by 5 or 6 goals. HHH beat tomahawks.
OR - maybe the refs were against Dukes two weeks ago
Only explanation. It had to be the refs!!
Nice use of the sarcasm font. It is great to see the parity at this level. Knowing the top teams can beat each other any weekend.
Having A>B>C>A situations also makes for great lacrosse.
With so much talent spread out across so many teams I hope the early recruiters take their time to evaluate all talent before offically opening the 2018 verbal commitment circus
Well the referees were obviously against the Long Island teams. Terps beat Dukes HHH 2 weekends ago by 5 or 6 goals. HHH beat tomahawks.
The behavior I saw from the LI parents this weekend was atrocious! They are the biggest whiners and ref bashers out there. I cannot imagine acting like that on the sidelines
Should be Terps vs Extreme tomorrow. They should just stay on LI and play.
Guessing they should have stayed on LI after all. That way they may have won.
Well the referees were obviously against the Long Island teams. Terps beat Dukes HHH 2 weekends ago by 5 or 6 goals. HHH beat tomahawks.
The behavior I saw from the LI parents this weekend was atrocious! They are the biggest whiners and ref bashers out there. I cannot imagine acting like that on the sidelines
LOL! LOL! LOL!
Well the referees were obviously against the Long Island teams. Terps beat Dukes HHH 2 weekends ago by 5 or 6 goals. HHH beat tomahawks.
The behavior I saw from the LI parents this weekend was atrocious! They are the biggest whiners and ref bashers out there. I cannot imagine acting like that on the sidelines
Didn't see that, but could have been at the games you were at. The refs were probably some of the worst I have seen. Didn't know rules and weren't running up and down field. Very inconstant in level of physical play they would allow.
Well the referees were obviously against the Long Island teams. Terps beat Dukes HHH 2 weekends ago by 5 or 6 goals. HHH beat tomahawks.
The behavior I saw from the LI parents this weekend was atrocious! They are the biggest whiners and ref bashers out there. I cannot imagine acting like that on the sidelines
Didn't see that, but could have been at the games you were at. The refs were probably some of the worst I have seen. Didn't know rules and weren't running up and down field. Very inconstant in level of physical play they would allow.
I realize it was hot - but the refs were not running up and down the field, one guy kept calling flag down but hold the flag so he would not have to go back and get it, reffing was weak but it was weak both ways
Don't have a son on Extreme or Terps. However, I have to ask the question. Were FCA and or the NH Tomahawks this competitive last year? If not, how could they have become so good in just one years time? I believe both these teams were not even close to the level of Extreme or Terps last year. How did they become so good so fast?
One last question, as I was not at the tournament. The starting line ups for these teams, both FCA and NH, were they all as big and more physically developed than the biggest kid on Extreme? If not ok, then maybe they just found better kids. I'm guessing I might be right though? If I am right... How come not one rising rising freshmen I know of looks like that? Just asking, because my son's team played a team from out of state this weekend who's starting 10 were ALL between 5'-10" and 6'2", 150-175lbs... It's becoming laughable.
NH was average size, I watched them play fl$ who has the smallest attack I have ever seen, NH won by 1 goal with under a minute. FCA had some big kids, but the were very good. You have to stop with the size thing, next year a lot of, if not all these boys will be playing JV or varsity, then there will be 14 year olds playing against 18 year olds, you can't always play your age.
LI Express North won TRI State national tourney, solid competition .Bucks Select,TriState, Prime Time all made semis.Pool play Prime Time beat Express. Finals Express beat PrimeTime 7to 1
Nothing to do with talent. Extreme has more talent. FCA out coached Extreme. Very obvious to see. All Extreme did was attempt to score with individual effort and had no team offense. The FCA goalie was average but if all you try is score from the big shots, you make a good goalie look great.
Nothing to do with talent. Extreme has more talent. FCA out coached Extreme. Very obvious to see. All Extreme did was attempt to score with individual effort and had no team offense. The FCA goalie was average but if all you try is score from the big shots, you make a good goalie look great.
The post below taken from post on NPYL thread:
(FCA U15 Blue wins NXT Cup in Philly. Big 7 - 4 win over Team 91 in semi's. Blowout win in championship game.)
U-15??? Seems like another MD team playing down and then bragging about winning. Sad.
Nothing to do with talent. Extreme has more talent. FCA out coached Extreme. Very obvious to see. All Extreme did was attempt to score with individual effort and had no team offense. The FCA goalie was average but if all you try is score from the big shots, you make a good goalie look great.
I've seen that FCA team play before. Plenty of talent at all positions. Stop trying to rationalize your loss.
NH was average size, I watched them play fl$ who has the smallest attack I have ever seen, NH won by 1 goal with under a minute. FCA had some big kids, but the were very good. You have to stop with the size thing, next year a lot of, if not all these boys will be playing JV or varsity, then there will be 14 year olds playing against 18 year olds, you can't always play your age.
You are right. Since they start HS next year, it doesn't matter if they cheat this year. All bets are off.
NH was average size, I watched them play fl$ who has the smallest attack I have ever seen, NH won by 1 goal with under a minute. FCA had some big kids, but the were very good. You have to stop with the size thing, next year a lot of, if not all these boys will be playing JV or varsity, then there will be 14 year olds playing against 18 year olds, you can't always play your age.
You are right. Since they start HS next year, it doesn't matter if they cheat this year. All bets are off.
Terps have two very small attack players who score a ton of goals. I have always thought it was an unfair advantage to be that small, these larger defensemen can not get low enough to push them out and the little guys are just so quick that they can not cover them. I wonder if the terps cheat and play younger plays for the obvious advantage a small quick attacker has over a bigger older slower D.
NH was average size, I watched them play fl$ who has the smallest attack I have ever seen, NH won by 1 goal with under a minute. FCA had some big kids, but the were very good. You have to stop with the size thing, next year a lot of, if not all these boys will be playing JV or varsity, then there will be 14 year olds playing against 18 year olds, you can't always play your age.
You are right. Since they start HS next year, it doesn't matter if they cheat this year. All bets are off.
Terps have two very small attack players who score a ton of goals. I have always thought it was an unfair advantage to be that small, these larger defensemen can not get low enough to push them out and the little guys are just so quick that they can not cover them. I wonder if the terps cheat and play younger plays for the obvious advantage a small quick attacker has over a bigger older slower D.
Little kid Dad... They score a lot because of ball movement, not individual dodges. Yeah, those big attackmen like Garret Thul, Mark Matthews and Randy Stats are useless.... Come on man. Not saying small guys aren't great too, but you're reaching.
Terps have two very small attack players who score a ton of goals. I have always thought it was an unfair advantage to be that small, these larger defensemen can not get low enough to push them out and the little guys are just so quick that they can not cover them.
Hysterical post. I keep trying to convince ACC coaches they need short defensemen to cover the smaller attackmen like Sankey, Bitter, Dionne and Mattheis. Hears hoping that Starsia and Danowski are reading.
Best talent at nxt Tri state thing of the past ..
Dukes , fsa extreame , terps , New Hampshire tomahawks .bay hawks
Next tier 91 orange , jesters , prime time , express north , patriots , leading edge not in that order
Best talent at nxt Tri state thing of the past ..
Dukes , fsa extreame , terps , New Hampshire tomahawks .bay hawks
Next tier 91 orange , jesters , prime time , express north , patriots , leading edge not in that order
Terps have two very small attack players who score a ton of goals. I have always thought it was an unfair advantage to be that small, these larger defensemen can not get low enough to push them out and the little guys are just so quick that they can not cover them.
Hysterical post. I keep trying to convince ACC coaches they need short defensemen to cover the smaller attackmen like Sankey, Bitter, Dionne and Mattheis. Hears hoping that Starsia and Danowski are reading.
thank you for getting IT, the guy above didn't, just making lite of all the age/size stuff. I am a big believer in players are players and it all comes out in the end. I also hope you get the word out, my kid is a small D man
Best talent at nxt Tri state thing of the past ..
Dukes , fsa extreame , terps , New Hampshire tomahawks .bay hawks
Next tier 91 orange , jesters , prime time , express north , patriots , leading edge not in that order
2017 Dukes (with several D-1 commits) were at trisatate...
Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Easy fella, poster called Jesters team "next tier". No one ever said they were on the level of Extreme or Terps. Still asserting your son's travel team superiority??? That's funny. You should know, Jesters did beat everyone else on LI though this summer, but who cares? All that's in the past, all about the next step now. That's why you should consider playing on a team where your son sees the field, and or isn't one of 34 players. Much easier to be seen by coaches when your son is actually playing in front of them. I assure you, no college coach is going to care who wins or loses moving forward. Come to Jester tryouts, solid kids, great coaches, no psycho parents who think their kid is the next Duke recruit, a breath of fresh air. Have a friend who's son is on a 2016 team (not jesters)that went 1-4 this past weekend, kids has 6 offers on the table from very nice D1 schools. Its about talent my friend, not game scores...
Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Because you can't dispute the facts, sorry.
Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Yes a top team on LI. If you consider the better out of state teams they are way out of the mix. Here is my list in order based on recent results I know of.
FCA beat Extreme semis of NXT
Extreme Beat Terps
Terps Beat Dukes
Crabs on rep only no info
Dukes lost to Terps when it counted in playoffs
WCS
Mesa Fresh
Annapolis Hawks lost to Extreme on LI in finals
NH Tomahawks beat fl$ by one last minute
fl$
Patriots
BBL
Team Texas
TLI
[quote=Anonymous]Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Yes a top team on LI. If you consider the better out of state teams they are way out of the mix. Here is my list in order based on recent results I know of.
FCA beat Extreme semis of NXT
Extreme Beat Terps
Terps Beat Dukes
Crabs on rep only no info
Dukes lost to Terps when it counted in playoffs
WCS
Mesa Fresh
Annapolis Hawks lost to Extreme on LI in finals
NH Tomahawks beat fl$ by one last minute
fl$
Patriots
BBL
Team Texas
TLI
Ok. Beat Mesa Fresh last week at NXT. Beat fl$ last two times played them. Went further in Laxfest than NH, hawks and bbl. Lost to BBL by one or two. Not in same league as Extreme although played one close game this year.
Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Yes a top team on LI. If you consider the better out of state teams they are way out of the mix. Here is my list in order based on recent results I know of.
FCA beat Extreme semis of NXT
Extreme Beat Terps
Terps Beat Dukes
Crabs on rep only no info
Dukes lost to Terps when it counted in playoffs
WCS
Mesa Fresh
Annapolis Hawks lost to Extreme on LI in finals
NH Tomahawks beat fl$ by one last minute
fl$
Patriots
BBL
Team Texas
TLI
Extreme, fl$, FCA Blue all in fl$ in 3D starting tomorrow. Some of those 3D teams are very good as well.
Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Yes a top team on LI. If you consider the better out of state teams they are way out of the mix. Here is my list in order based on recent results I know of.
FCA beat Extreme semis of NXT
Extreme Beat Terps
Terps Beat Dukes
Crabs on rep only no info
Dukes lost to Terps when it counted in playoffs
WCS
Mesa Fresh
Annapolis Hawks lost to Extreme on LI in finals
NH Tomahawks beat fl$ by one last minute
fl$
Patriots
BBL
Team Texas
TLI
Extreme, fl$, FCA Blue all in fl$ in 3D starting tomorrow. Some of those 3D teams are very good as well.
Yes I have heard that 3D New England and 3D Colorado are very good. I just Have not seen them play. I have seen all teams in my ranking play in various tournaments except for Crabs.
Not from TLI but there is no way fl$,Patriots etc... are better than them!!
[quote=Anonymous]Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Yes a top team on LI. If you consider the better out of state teams they are way out of the mix. Here is my list in order based on recent results I know of.
FCA beat Extreme semis of NXT
Extreme Beat Terps
Terps Beat Dukes
Crabs on rep only no info
Dukes lost to Terps when it counted in playoffs
WCS
Mesa Fresh
Annapolis Hawks lost to Extreme on LI in finals
NH Tomahawks beat fl$ by one last minute
fl$
Patriots
BBL
Team Texas
TLI
Ok. Beat Mesa Fresh last week at NXT. Beat fl$ last two times played them. Went further in Laxfest than NH, hawks and bbl. Lost to BBL by one or two. Not in same league as Extreme although played one close game this year.
jesters also lost to TLI 13-2!
[quote=Anonymous]Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Yes a top team on LI. If you consider the better out of state teams they are way out of the mix. Here is my list in order based on recent results I know of.
FCA beat Extreme semis of NXT
Extreme Beat Terps
Terps Beat Dukes
Crabs on rep only no info
Dukes lost to Terps when it counted in playoffs
WCS
Mesa Fresh
Annapolis Hawks lost to Extreme on LI in finals
NH Tomahawks beat fl$ by one last minute
fl$
Patriots
BBL
Team Texas
TLI
Ok. Beat Mesa Fresh last week at NXT. Beat fl$ last two times played them. Went further in Laxfest than NH, hawks and bbl. Lost to BBL by one or two. Not in same league as Extreme although played one close game this year.
what about Bucks select? They always give Extreme fits!
[quote=Anonymous]Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Yes a top team on LI. If you consider the better out of state teams they are way out of the mix. Here is my list in order based on recent results I know of.
FCA beat Extreme semis of NXT
Extreme Beat Terps
Terps Beat Dukes
Crabs on rep only no info
Dukes lost to Terps when it counted in playoffs
WCS
Mesa Fresh
Annapolis Hawks lost to Extreme on LI in finals
NH Tomahawks beat fl$ by one last minute
fl$
Patriots
BBL
Team Texas
TLI
Ok. Beat Mesa Fresh last week at NXT. Beat fl$ last two times played them. Went further in Laxfest than NH, hawks and bbl. Lost to BBL by one or two. Not in same league as Extreme although played one close game this year.
Tomahawks in Laxfest were in same division as Extreme so were knocked out earlier than you. Which Mesa Fresh believe you played their B team they have multiple teams also BBL Black is their A Team and they have multiple teams. Extreme Beat Annapolis Hawks in Semi I think 8 to 4. That should have been finals not the spanking that was the finals. Annapolis beat Extreme earlier in the year at a tournament. Your bracket at Lax fest was the easiest. Wolverines are bad this year, That Superstars Team stunk. Only decent team was 91 Orange and you handled them easily. Your good but not in the elite team running yet. Have improved over the last 2 years.
[quote=Anonymous]Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Yes a top team on LI. If you consider the better out of state teams they are way out of the mix. Here is my list in order based on recent results I know of.
FCA beat Extreme semis of NXT
Extreme Beat Terps
Terps Beat Dukes
Crabs on rep only no info
Dukes lost to Terps when it counted in playoffs
WCS
Mesa Fresh
Annapolis Hawks lost to Extreme on LI in finals
NH Tomahawks beat fl$ by one last minute
fl$
Patriots
BBL
Team Texas
TLI
Ok. Beat Mesa Fresh last week at NXT. Beat fl$ last two times played them. Went further in Laxfest than NH, hawks and bbl. Lost to BBL by one or two. Not in same league as Extreme although played one close game this year.
what about Bucks select? They always give Extreme fits!
Very good team. Best Jesters by 2. Lost to 91 Orange, express north and an older team LI
Not from TLI but there is no way fl$,Patriots etc... are better than them!!
Team LI is 2018 so it really doesn't matter. Put 5 9th graders on any of these teams and they will be much better!
Not from TLI but there is no way fl$,Patriots etc... are better than them!!
Team LI is 2018 so it really doesn't matter. Put 5 9th graders on any of these teams and they will be much better!
There were 2 2017's when u played them. Both kids r probably younger than your oldest kid. BTW that TLI team has beaten your 2017 team every time they played them.
[quote=Anonymous]Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Yes a top team on LI. If you consider the better out of state teams they are way out of the mix. Here is my list in order based on recent results I know of.
FCA beat Extreme semis of NXT
Extreme Beat Terps
Terps Beat Dukes
Crabs on rep only no info
Dukes lost to Terps when it counted in playoffs
WCS
Mesa Fresh
Annapolis Hawks lost to Extreme on LI in finals
NH Tomahawks beat fl$ by one last minute
fl$
Patriots
BBL
Team Texas
TLI
Ok. Beat Mesa Fresh last week at NXT. Beat fl$ last two times played them. Went further in Laxfest than NH, hawks and bbl. Lost to BBL by one or two. Not in same league as Extreme although played one close game this year.
what about Bucks select? They always give Extreme fits!
Very good team. Best Jesters by 2. Lost to 91 Orange, express north and an older team LI
FYI Bucks select has 6 2017's on it!
You can not put team long island on that list they have rising 10th graders on team they should not be playing down.
Oh yeah that list all the teams are older.
We need to go to age based like all other sports
Not from TLI but there is no way fl$,Patriots etc... are better than them!!
Team LI is 2018 so it really doesn't matter. Put 5 9th graders on any of these teams and they will be much better!
There were 2 2017's when u played them. Both kids r probably younger than your oldest kid. BTW that TLI team has beaten your 2017 team every time they played them.
I don't care about 2017 team. Why do you want to play 8th graders with HS kids. And they aren't younger than out kids. All age appropriate. Every single one. You can justify why you break the rules. It's 2018. End of story. Go play u15!
[quote=Anonymous]Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Yes a top team on LI. If you consider the better out of state teams they are way out of the mix. Here is my list in order based on recent results I know of.
FCA beat Extreme semis of NXT
Extreme Beat Terps
Terps Beat Dukes
Crabs on rep only no info
Dukes lost to Terps when it counted in playoffs
WCS
Mesa Fresh
Annapolis Hawks lost to Extreme on LI in finals
NH Tomahawks beat fl$ by one last minute
fl$
Patriots
BBL
Team Texas
TLI
Ok. Beat Mesa Fresh last week at NXT. Beat fl$ last two times played them. Went further in Laxfest than NH, hawks and bbl. Lost to BBL by one or two. Not in same league as Extreme although played one close game this year.
Just to clear up something, this FCA team is from Maryland, they have 2017 and U-15 team which consists of the same kids, so i'd have to say that they are a few years older than even the non true 2018 boys. I guess it's OK to play down to win a tournament.
Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Yes a top team on LI. If you consider the better out of state teams they are way out of the mix. Here is my list in order based on recent results I know of.
FCA beat Extreme semis of NXT
Extreme Beat Terps
Terps Beat Dukes
Crabs on rep only no info
Dukes lost to Terps when it counted in playoffs
WCS
Mesa Fresh
Annapolis Hawks lost to Extreme on LI in finals
NH Tomahawks beat fl$ by one last minute
fl$
Patriots
BBL
Team Texas
TLI
After closer review... I see that they list on the FCA website that the U-13 team played at Philly, yet, the boys listed in the article that was written up, also play on the 2017 team, Interesting?!
So I guess we established that all the top teams are a lot older.
Any list that has Jesters in a top 10 has no credibility
Made finals of Laxfest with some very good competition. No?
And that's the sound of Crickets...
Yes a top team on LI. If you consider the better out of state teams they are way out of the mix. Here is my list in order based on recent results I know of.
FCA beat Extreme semis of NXT
Extreme Beat Terps
Terps Beat Dukes
Crabs on rep only no info
Dukes lost to Terps when it counted in playoffs
WCS
Mesa Fresh
Annapolis Hawks lost to Extreme on LI in finals
NH Tomahawks beat fl$ by one last minute
fl$
Patriots
BBL
Team Texas
TLI
After closer review... I see that they list on the FCA website that the U-13 team played at Philly, yet, the boys listed in the article that was written up, also play on the 2017 team, Interesting?!
Now that's not very Christian of them is it?!
A club out of DC called Blackwolf put together a 2018 team to play in UPLAX and went 5-1 only losing to Edge 2017 (Canada) 10-3, who has beaten just about every 2017 team. They beat Building Blocks 2017, T2 2017, NJ Thunder 2017, United Albany 2017, and Flyers 2017 all by a big score differential... Quickly starting to pull kids in from Madlax, and VLC.
Extreme handled FCA easily today
LI Express North won Patriot games
Beat Mesa Fresh 3 to 2
Tri State 7 to 4
Beats Mad Lax in Final 6 to 4
Ha Ha , 91 is Lucky we lost a few of our top players to injuries or you would of schooled like you did two weeks ago.
I am a dad on FCA team and have to say 91 Extreme is by far the best team we have played in the 2018 age group by far. Great team, great group of parents.
I'm a dad on FCA. 91 extreme is by far the top 2018 team we have faced. Very impressive squad. Pleasure to watch them play. Strong in every part of the game. Face off kid, big defenseman, and smaller attack man/ midfielder are all very dominant. Kudos to the team. A pleasure to compete against
Ha Ha , 91 is Lucky we lost a few of our top players to injuries or you would of schooled like you did two weeks ago.
Excuses, excuses. Every team suffers injuries and loss of kids for one thing or another. I am sure you will play again and your game will speak for itself/ but putting it out here on BOTC just sounds like you are being a sore loser. Enjoy the summer.
Congratulations to Team Long Island u-14 on winning The championship at Champ Camp in Maryland this past week!
How many people have received their invites from Philly Freshman Showcase. Are they all out yet or are they still sending them out? What hotels to stay in?
How many people have received their invites from Philly Freshman Showcase. Are they all out yet or are they still sending them out? What hotels to stay in?
Never got one for my son. But not surprised because if your team isn't playing on Sunday, which we are not, I doubt you would get an A list invite.
How many people have received their invites from Philly Freshman Showcase. Are they all out yet or are they still sending them out? What hotels to stay in?
Never got one for my son. But not surprised because if your team isn't playing on Sunday, which we are not, I doubt you would get an A list invite.
I'm pretty sure Philly Freshman Showcase is only for holdbacks
How many people have received their invites from Philly Freshman Showcase. Are they all out yet or are they still sending them out? What hotels to stay in?
Never got one for my son. But not surprised because if your team isn't playing on Sunday, which we are not, I doubt you would get an A list invite.
I'm pretty sure Philly Freshman Showcase is only for holdbacks
Stop it.
How many people have received their invites from Philly Freshman Showcase. Are they all out yet or are they still sending them out? What hotels to stay in?
Never got one for my son. But not surprised because if your team isn't playing on Sunday, which we are not, I doubt you would get an A list invite.
I'm pretty sure Philly Freshman Showcase is only for holdbacks
I emailed them and they said they do not notify you if you are not invited. They just update the website.
How many people have received their invites from Philly Freshman Showcase. Are they all out yet or are they still sending them out? What hotels to stay in?
Never got one for my son. But not surprised because if your team isn't playing on Sunday, which we are not, I doubt you would get an A list invite.
I'm pretty sure Philly Freshman Showcase is only for holdbacks
I emailed them and they said they do not notify you if you are not invited. They just update the website.
first couple of batches are out today, I do not think this is the end just waiting to see reply's would be my guess - I know someone who got an invite this morning and someone else that got one this afternoon
How many people have received their invites from Philly Freshman Showcase. Are they all out yet or are they still sending them out? What hotels to stay in?
Never got one for my son. But not surprised because if your team isn't playing on Sunday, which we are not, I doubt you would get an A list invite.
I'm pretty sure Philly Freshman Showcase is only for holdbacks
I emailed them and they said they do not notify you if you are not invited. They just update the website.
first couple of batches are out today, I do not think this is the end just waiting to see reply's would be my guess - I know someone who got an invite this morning and someone else that got one this afternoon
It doesn't work like that. I was told they just update the website when it's full. They had 12 teams last year.
How many people have received their invites from Philly Freshman Showcase. Are they all out yet or are they still sending them out? What hotels to stay in?
Never got one for my son. But not surprised because if your team isn't playing on Sunday, which we are not, I doubt you would get an A list invite.
I'm pretty sure Philly Freshman Showcase is only for holdbacks
I emailed them and they said they do not notify you if you are not invited. They just update the website.
first couple of batches are out today, I do not think this is the end just waiting to see reply's would be my guess - I know someone who got an invite this morning and someone else that got one this afternoon
It doesn't work like that. I was told they just update the website when it's full. They had 12 teams last year.
12 teams of 20 ea. is 240 kids, do they send out 600 invitations and as soon as a position fills up they start a wait list or do they send out 240 and give them a few days to register and then the next batch? it would suck if you were one of the original 240 kids selected and you were on vacation and missed out because you didn't see the e-mail. I would hope that they send them to 240 kids and give them time to except before the next batch is sent out
How does a kid get invited?
How does a kid get invited?
you apply on their web site, you then send links to your school and club coach to make recommendations from the site, I think you can also upload a video
Is it too late to apply/get recommended?
Is it too late to apply/get recommended?
No. Just go to the site