Discussion thread for community members interested in the Long Island Express including club information, coaching, teams, tournaments, and game play.
On the Express web site, the girls side is showing weekend tournaments on a per player basis of $200-$225. Is this standard to pay for a tournament registration per player? (This seems like a very expensive price compared to $800 per team in soccer.) What do you expect to pay per tournament?
Entry fees vary but Express is in this BUISNESS to make a buck you can figure they are laying out anywhere from 800.00 to 1500.00 to register a team. You can check showcase website to get correct fees. As you can see if you carry 20 on a roster you more than cover the entry fees.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Entry fees vary but Express is in this BUISNESS to make a buck you can figure they are laying out anywhere from 800.00 to 1500.00 to register a team. You can check showcase website to get correct fees. As you can see if you carry 20 on a roster you more than cover the entry fees.
As much as all these clubs may help your daughter the bottom line is money, they are running a business. They will all keep charging high fees as long as we pay.
They announced the boys 2014 team last night. They have four teams, that I have heard of. Orange ,Blue, White, and Gray..
Catholic school guys are cleaning up off a parent pipe dream. Some good Christians, lol
Catholic school guys are cleaning up off a parent pipe dream. Some good Christians, lol
Express ran a BS Thanksgiving tournament. 75 dollars per kid. The team had 28 kids on it. Last one for my son.
The only good thing was we were not in the 4th grade bracket. They played 6th graders for five minutes and the game was stopped. What a joke!!! They express guys are thankful that we keep giving.
The only good thing was we were not in the 4th grade bracket. They played 6th graders for five minutes and the game was stopped. What a joke!!! They express guys are thankful that we keep giving.
Originally Posted by laxfan14
Express ran a BS Thanksgiving tournament. 75 dollars per kid. The team had 28 kids on it. Last one for my son.
The only good thing was we were not in the 4th grade bracket. They played 6th graders for five minutes and the game was stopped. What a joke!!! They express guys are thankful that we keep giving.
The only good thing was we were not in the 4th grade bracket. They played 6th graders for five minutes and the game was stopped. What a joke!!! They express guys are thankful that we keep giving.
That is an incredibly high price. How much playing time was guaranteed against that entry fee? Please share the details.
The tournament fee was advertised at $750 per team. The checks for each participating team were to be made payable to a director of the express. He ran the tournament, so who knows what he paid per team. His costs were the referees. 2 refs per game at $50-60 per game. At 3 games, that's gouging.
Originally Posted by laxfan14
The tournament fee was advertised at $750 per team. The checks for each participating team were to be made payable to a director of the express. He ran the tournament, so who knows what he paid per team. His costs were the referees. 2 refs per game at $50-60 per game. At 3 games, that's gouging.
Welcome to the world of youth Lacrosse on Long Island, Boys or Girls it does not matter. All these club teams gouge and as long as we pay they are going to take our money
If your looking for a Lacrosse Club with reasonable rates check out Park Lacrosse at parklacrosse.net. This is a new travel venture that is here for the players and their families. Check it out this summers rates are $675.00 per player includes 4 tournaments, sublimated uniforms, quality coaching, 8-10 practices. Preseason practices and goalie training for an additional modest fee.
Refreshing the Long Island Express Lacrosse discussion thread based on requests here on the main message board.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As much as all these clubs may help your daughter the bottom line is money, they are running a business. They will all keep charging high fees as long as we pay.
We have a winner folks. Express seems to travel a little more than most which may explain some of the extra $$$ for the registration. There are less expensive teams that give more in way of equipment, uniforms, etc. You really need to look around and see what fits you and your child the best as far as travel, commitment and the talent level you will be facing at the tournaments each team goes to. The Express may have the most name recoginition right now but there are teams who are building programs and are currently mathcing and exceeding the Express teams talent wise.
i agree it depends on what u want for your child. For example, my son is the goalie for another organization and staight from the coaches, the team is built around him and so far we have won a few tourneys but he gets next to no training or direct practice time so we have decided after this season to start looking around for more serious organizations for him. For most of these groups, the practices revovle around running plays, next to no drills or training and just being prepped for the tournaments so minimal growth for the kids.
what does extra travel have to do with the higher fees. they charge more to make more. The express orange teams are the only teams that are worth the money. If you play for blue, white, or any other color you are just making a donation.
Originally Posted by laxfan14
what does extra travel have to do with the higher fees. they charge more to make more. The express orange teams are the only teams that are worth the money. If you play for blue, white, or any other color you are just making a donation.
I assume they are paying the coaches hotel rooms and maybe some travel fees when playing out of town. That's a cost you don't have when playing on the island.
Originally Posted by laxfan14
what does extra travel have to do with the higher fees. they charge more to make more. The express orange teams are the only teams that are worth the money. If you play for blue, white, or any other color you are just making a donation.
Do they let you know what team you will be assigned to before you make the $$$ commitment? I assume not, otherwise parents may not pay to be on a B or C squad.
I was talking with an Express mom who is pretty satisfied with the team. But she says it all depends on if your coach is good. Her daughter's coach is all about fundamentals and this mom likes that. She said there is also little dead wood on the team, girls from last year's team were cut in favor of new girls with more talent.
Originally Posted by Powderfinger
I was talking with an Express mom who is pretty satisfied with the team. But she says it all depends on if your coach is good. Her daughter's coach is all about fundamentals and this mom likes that. She said there is also little dead wood on the team, girls from last year's team were cut in favor of new girls with more talent.
Powderfinger,
I think the coach will play a large majority in how happy you are with a team. Doesn't matter what team your daughter plays for.
my son plays for another organization and i've been speaking with the heads of express and i am definitely impressed with what i have heard. Mind you they are all about selling and making more money, but they were very straight forward. We are not moving for more playing time but for better coaching and practicing. I was amazed when i was told the express teams have been practicing since November which my sons organization hasn't done. Granted we have won a few tournaments already, but when you are 10/11, does it really matter in the grand scheme especially if you are playing subpar teams. I would rather lose every tourey, but be part of something that is giving me my money's worth, ie. practices, instruction and coaching.
Re: coaching makes the team.
So agree. What I don't like is that, in my experience, there is no guarantee as to your coach when you sign up for a program. As far as I can see, it's luck of the draw no matter what promises are made up front across all the lax programs. Very frustrating.
So agree. What I don't like is that, in my experience, there is no guarantee as to your coach when you sign up for a program. As far as I can see, it's luck of the draw no matter what promises are made up front across all the lax programs. Very frustrating.
Like i said earlier, if your not on the orange team you are out. The orange teams have the better coaches. The directors, who are proven hs coaches, coach the orange teams, with the help of a Catholic School bound kids dad. Every other color team is there to line the directors pockets.
totally agreed.
so this year, we will do a good number of tryouts and see what falls out. i spoke to one of the directors recently who invited us down to workout with them in the coming weeks but of course said initially we will work with the blue squad. this after i finished telling him my son has blanked the blue squad every time we have played them and i am not leaving one "B" unit for another. Will see what happens.
so this year, we will do a good number of tryouts and see what falls out. i spoke to one of the directors recently who invited us down to workout with them in the coming weeks but of course said initially we will work with the blue squad. this after i finished telling him my son has blanked the blue squad every time we have played them and i am not leaving one "B" unit for another. Will see what happens.
Any info on the girls side?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any info on the girls side?
YJ 15 Blue team spanked their Express 15 girls team. The team used to be a powerhouse but are slowly crumbling.
What B team are you on?
who r u asking? which post?
Ever hear of "Buyer Beware"? The directors will tell you a lot of wonderful things, but take it from someone who has been through it - you pay for EVERYTHING tenfold! The orange teams might begin practicing earlier, but the others play winter leagues/tournaments which they charge ridiculous amounts of money for. Your child is young - you'll see how it unfolds. Good luck
starting to think you are right. I think after alot of discussion, we might just look at a few of the other organizations out there, worry less about all the high level tourneys, and spend more money on individual training, which none of the groups really offer for a goalie, that is for sure.
Does anyone know what they're talking about in the Team 91 thread? Why were we not given the opportunity to have our kids try out for this team if the Express is running it. Are they trying to get players from other teams and force the one who are playing this year out?
Express is looking to get the best players that they can. They are running a business. They will show loyalty by letting returning players move to the blue team and giving players from team 91 the spots on orange.
How many kids are they adding from other clubs to the 2014 team that is going to florida this weekend?
This is the field for the Under-15 National Championship being held from July 22nd-24th at ESPN/Wide World of Sports in Florida. Local representation from the Long Island Express, Long Island Jesters, and For the Love of the Game.
Atlanta Coyotes
Blue Chips
C2C Black
Carolina Cyclones
DH Lax Elite
Dukes HHH LC
FCA
FL Swashbucklers
For the Love of the Game
Force Lacrosse
Houligans
Illinois United
Jacksonville
Las Vegas Headwrapz
LI Express
LI Jesters
MD Lcrosse Club
Next Level (MD)
Next Level (RI)
NESLL
Norcal Titans
Norcal Blue
Team Colorado
True Lacrosse
TTL Select
Utah
Atlanta Coyotes
Blue Chips
C2C Black
Carolina Cyclones
DH Lax Elite
Dukes HHH LC
FCA
FL Swashbucklers
For the Love of the Game
Force Lacrosse
Houligans
Illinois United
Jacksonville
Las Vegas Headwrapz
LI Express
LI Jesters
MD Lcrosse Club
Next Level (MD)
Next Level (RI)
NESLL
Norcal Titans
Norcal Blue
Team Colorado
True Lacrosse
TTL Select
Utah
Originally Posted by laxfan14
They will show loyalty by letting returning players move to the blue team and giving players from team 91 the spots on orange.
It's not just 91. It's kids from fl$, Raiders, etc. And that's not loyalty, it's a slap in the face.
Hearing one town club outraged by a father helping to orchestrate. Evidently not the first run-in between club and this father. Town club also run by HS varsity coach so will be interesting to see if any repurcusions down the road..ugh..as the youth lax world turns.
Boys rosters for the U15 National Championship
Boys U15 National Championshjp Rosters
From New [lacrosse], this covers the Long Island Express (hence in this thread), but also the Long Island Jesters and For the the Love of the Game players.
Boys U15 National Championshjp Rosters
From New [lacrosse], this covers the Long Island Express (hence in this thread), but also the Long Island Jesters and For the the Love of the Game players.
No 91?
would have been nice to know your kids were playing in Balt this weekend and not playing for their own team..... can you say Loyalty! ,,,,roster had to be in July 1st....the ME generation takes over once again...lets see what HS teams are there at the end........I need middies to get MY son the Ball.....
U/15 Boys National Championship Seedings/Brackets
#1 Long Island Express
#5 For the Love of the Game
#14 Long Island Jesters
#1 Long Island Express
#5 For the Love of the Game
#14 Long Island Jesters
Substantial lightning and bad weather basically undermined the whole tournament. Seedings are basically done on half-results (two group play games, some shortened). With 27 teams involved, the top five seeds received the byes.
1. Long Island Express (2-0) 1 GA (+16 differential)
2. Nor Cal Talons (2-0) 1 GA (+13 differential)
3. Maryland LC (2-0) 2 GA
4. Force Lacrosse (2-0) 3 GA (+10 differential)
5. For the Love of the Game (2-0) 3 GA (+9 differential)
6. NESLL (2-0) 3 GA (+6 differential)
7. Carolina Cyclones (2-0) 4 GA
8. Next Level MD (2-0) 5 GA (+14 differential)
9. FCA (2-0) 5 GA (+9 differential)
10. Colorado (1-1) 5 GA (+5 differential), won coin flip
11. DH Lax Elite (1-1) 5 GA (+5 differential)
12. Vegas Headwrapz (1-1) 7 GA
13. True Lacrosse (1-1) 8 GA
14. Long Island Jesters (1-1) 9 GA
15. Dukes HHH LC (1-1) 10 GA (-4 differential)
16. Nor Cal Blue (1-1) 10 GA (-5 differential)
17. C2C Black (1-1) 11 GA
18. Blue Chips (0-1-1) 15 GA
19. Houlaguns (0-1-1) 23 GA
20. Next Level RI (0-2) 12 GA (-5 differential)
21. Jacksonville (0-2) 12 GA (-8 differential)
22. Atlanta Coyotes (0-2) 14 GA (-8 differential)
23. Utah (0-2) 14 GA (-12 differential)
24. Illinois United (0-2) 14 GA (-13 differential)
25. TTL Select (0-2) 18 GA (-12 differential)
26. Florida Swashbucklers (0-2) 18 GA (-16 differential)
27. Stickhead (0-2) 22 GA
1. Long Island Express (2-0) 1 GA (+16 differential)
2. Nor Cal Talons (2-0) 1 GA (+13 differential)
3. Maryland LC (2-0) 2 GA
4. Force Lacrosse (2-0) 3 GA (+10 differential)
5. For the Love of the Game (2-0) 3 GA (+9 differential)
6. NESLL (2-0) 3 GA (+6 differential)
7. Carolina Cyclones (2-0) 4 GA
8. Next Level MD (2-0) 5 GA (+14 differential)
9. FCA (2-0) 5 GA (+9 differential)
10. Colorado (1-1) 5 GA (+5 differential), won coin flip
11. DH Lax Elite (1-1) 5 GA (+5 differential)
12. Vegas Headwrapz (1-1) 7 GA
13. True Lacrosse (1-1) 8 GA
14. Long Island Jesters (1-1) 9 GA
15. Dukes HHH LC (1-1) 10 GA (-4 differential)
16. Nor Cal Blue (1-1) 10 GA (-5 differential)
17. C2C Black (1-1) 11 GA
18. Blue Chips (0-1-1) 15 GA
19. Houlaguns (0-1-1) 23 GA
20. Next Level RI (0-2) 12 GA (-5 differential)
21. Jacksonville (0-2) 12 GA (-8 differential)
22. Atlanta Coyotes (0-2) 14 GA (-8 differential)
23. Utah (0-2) 14 GA (-12 differential)
24. Illinois United (0-2) 14 GA (-13 differential)
25. TTL Select (0-2) 18 GA (-12 differential)
26. Florida Swashbucklers (0-2) 18 GA (-16 differential)
27. Stickhead (0-2) 22 GA
At Best of the Beach - Report on Girls 2016 group ... Heros 2016 tied the Express in the finals after a 3-3 championship (25 minutes with no halftime) and a scoreless Brave Heart. Heros 2016 went 4-0 in the Red Pool, beating LI Express 9-8 Friday morning and beating Suffolk County 3-2 Saturday afternoon. LI Express (2nd in Red Pool as they also beat Suffolk) beat LI Top Guns in a very close semifinal after Top Guns won their group.
Long Island Express Barracuda's won the Madlax tourney this weekend beating the Looney's 10-7 in the championship game.
Madlax.com has a picture of the team taken after the Championship Game against Looney's.
http://www.madlax.com/index.cfm?action=pages&p=61
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The Express 2016 Barracuda team is one of the most talented U-13 teams we've seen this year. The Looney's who had been on a torrid winning streak looked over-matched at times by the depth of talent on the Barracuda squad. Saturday's convincing 9-3 loss to the Cudas shocked the Looney faithful. At the outset of Sunday's championship match, the Looney's looked like they may have regained their winning composure but each time the Looney's went up by a goal the Cuda team answered. The Cuda's managed to go up three goals at the half and were able to coast to the teams first championship in their short history of one week. Congratulations to the players and coaches for a job well done!
Barracudas are NOT an Express Team I've seen before. Watched them beat the Looneys to win the U13AA Madlax championship- determined, hard fighting and focused- these kids approached the field like they had an important job to do and when the game was over they walked off like humble, albeit excited, champions. Athletic,powerful,classy. What's the scoop? What a find!!
Any 2016 Express Orange folks here? Was anyone from the Orange team included with the Barracudas? If yes or no how is it sitting with the Express base?
The barracuda team will be remaining intact moving forward. If there were some Express Orange kids on the team i am sure they will remain with the barracuda's. Don't worry the Express is the finest club program on Long Island I'm sure there won't be a problem reloading the Orange team.
The 2017 teams have the Turtles but also the 2017 Orange which might be just as good.
Things work out just fine in the Express World, they always do. Kids want to eventually play with the top program, especially as it gets closer to college recruiting age.
The 2017 teams have the Turtles but also the 2017 Orange which might be just as good.
Things work out just fine in the Express World, they always do. Kids want to eventually play with the top program, especially as it gets closer to college recruiting age.
One late summer U13 tournament win is nice but doesn't mean much. I'm already hearing some kids not coming back. Lets see what happens when this team steps up to U15AA next year at Tri-State and some of the other tougher tournaments where they start playing against older kids. We'll be able to properly evaluate this time next year...not now.
Some kids not coming back? I think not. They will be back maybe less 1 player. They would be crazy not to return. Not when they have the reputation they have gotten from 1 tournament
How do you get a "reputation" from one tournament?
Good start for the Cuda's but don't get ahead of yourself. I'm very close to the fl$ program and believe me, they thought coming into this summer that their 2015 team were the chosen ones based on how they played in U13 the summer before. Lets just say this summer didn't work out the way they thought it would. Stay humble my friend...there is tons of talent in 2016 on the island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
when the game was over they walked off like humble, albeit excited, champions.
I'm glad the kids handled themselves in such a manner because the adults on here sure aren't. I congratulate the boys on their win but some of you should be ashamed of yourselves for the obviously transparent posts from parents and the Express directors. One of the posts in this thread and the 91 thread are exactly the same and a cut and paste job.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some kids not coming back? I think not. They will be back maybe less 1 player. They would be crazy not to return. Not when they have the reputation they have gotten from 1 tournament
LOL! I love reading posts from parents living vicariously through their kids. If you are so desperate to suit up, join an adult league.
Pretty sad that the Express kicked their own kids to the curb and assembled a "super team" by poaching players. And for what purpose? To win a meaningless t-shirt.
From what I understand, the 2016 Express team was last in pool play at Tri-State. So instead of coaching these kids up, Express assembles an All-Star team in the hopes of plucking these kids permanently. Sad.
As for the reputation this team has gotten after one tournament, on that we agree. The Express definitely has a reputation after this stunt.
The Express Orange/Central teams always manage to win regardless of age. The top high school players all migrate to club teams like Express and fl$ because those teams play in the top recruiting tournaments. The Barracuda's are ahead of the curve in terms of selecting the best talent in their respective grade.
Yeah, but I would not want to be on the wrong side of a scorned HS varsity coach. Good luck.
HS varsity coaches play the best players period. Their job is to win and they know that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yeah, but I would not want to be on the wrong side of a scorned HS varsity coach. Good luck.
Conflict of interest
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HS varsity coaches play the best players period. Their job is to win and they know that.
LOL - talk to the kid's high school coach to see what he thinks and then get back to us. They are human beings...if the talent is close, these factors will come into play. Trust me, I've had these conversations.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yeah, but I would not want to be on the wrong side of a scorned HS varsity coach. Good luck.
Conflict of interest
Absolutely. I don't like it but it is a reality in some town that some parents will have to accept and explain to their kids.
Im sure that most of these boastful posts are being written by people looking to knock the team by getting others worked up or from those club directors worrying that they blew it with many kids because they "fumbled the ball" this past season. Don't put to much into posts that are from anonymous, including this post. Its just food for thought. Who knows who is writing these posts pro or con this barracuda team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HS varsity coaches play the best players period. Their job is to win and they know that.
Hopefully your kid is not from a town where this conflict exists and you don't have to worry about it. Others may be in a tougher position.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HS varsity coaches play the best players period. Their job is to win and they know that.
Obviously you have not yet to gone through the high school experience. I've seen plenty of instances in HS where the slightly better kid sat on the bench - sometimes seemingly because the parents were nightmares. Don't worry about it...until you have to.
Fascinating thread! Keep it up. What's fascinating? The real emotion in thses posts because this is about rising 8th graders (let's keep that in mind). As for Express winning at all age groups? What happened to the 2016 Orange then? Does Express conduct a tryout? If so, when did the Barracuda tryout happen? If not, does Express just answer that this is a business and anything goes? If the Barracudas are that good and it sounds like they are I guess the fun factor in this team staying together is the joy in 17-0, 10-0, 9-3 , etc wins. Could players take anything out of playing in tight games? What happened to competition? Is loyalty a consideration? Fascinating! As for HS kids migrating there because of recruiting tournaments, it seems like there are new programs not only popping up but also getting invites to these tournaments as well? Enjoying both sides make their cases.
Interestingly enough, this thread serves as a marvelous microcosim of the behavior---in general---of Long Island parents at their daughters' lacrosse games.
We have played 10 games against LI teams in the past two summers and I have never observed anything quite like the sideline antics of a LI parent at a girls lacrosse game.
Humorous, just like this ongoing "debate."
We have played 10 games against LI teams in the past two summers and I have never observed anything quite like the sideline antics of a LI parent at a girls lacrosse game.
Humorous, just like this ongoing "debate."
This is not about rising 8th graders. It is about the kids that weren't asked to play Cuda and the parents who haven't stopped whining!! It is mostly the Team 91 parents that thinks the boy is a stud be he's not. Also the Directors are very upset the season was a disaster at this age/ group. Lack of steady coaches for Oyster Bay who missed the start of the game and didn't know the kids. Tournaments that had coaches who never saw the kids before or practiced with the kids. The list is long, now its time to move on the damage was done by 91 and now they are back tracking. Oh yea no communication for tournaments, I could go on and on but these are now Cuda kids
I've heard the Maveriks are run by a HS coach and I think there are 3 or 4 kids from the Maveriks on the Cuda team. Any other clubs (91, fl$ etc..) poached by the Cudas that are run by HS coaches? If the tables were turned on the Express, do you think a St. Anthony's kid playing for say the fl$ would see much of the field in a St A's game? All coaches are human...this stuff happens...
These are 13 year old kids who could and should play wherever they want. I don't know of any respectable HS coach who would black-ball a kid for choosing to do something he wants to do in the summer. Kids get better in the summer by learning from different coaches and playing with different players. Besides isn't it a conflict of interest for a HS coach to expect a kid to play for his town team or else he will not see the field on in high school? It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've heard the Maveriks are run by a HS coach and I think there are 3 or 4 kids from the Maveriks on the Cuda team. Any other clubs (91, fl$ etc..) poached by the Cudas that are run by HS coaches? If the tables were turned on the Express, do you think a St. Anthony's kid playing for say the fl$ would see much of the field in a St A's game? All coaches are human...this stuff happens...
Express sounds like a great program but I've heard that if your kid does not plan on going to St Anthonys or Chaminade then he will be nudged out of the program at some point. I'm sure there have been exceptions for some All-American caliber players but otherwise could this be generally true? Please only answer if you've had some (or know someone who has) experience with the Express in the 9-11th grades. Thanks.
What sideline antics are you talking about, examples please.An example of the parents from Maryland would be when the father who was missing multiple front teeth and clearly did not believe in personal hygiene attempted to defend the behavior of his daughter who had dropped her stick and goggles and was chasing a much smaller long island player around the field trying to have a fist fight, class act.
No body has been crying foul at the turtles. Now scorned parents are crying over a very talented team. For the record express did not put this team together it was handed too them. They would be foolish not to take this team. They went to mad lax and dismantled long standing deep programs of marylands best teams. I raise my hat to these KIDS not parents. These kids stay together the whole team signs to D-1 schools the high school coach can do nothing about it. Maybe Jonny should practice more
Do you really want us to believe that a HS coach will bench his best player or players because they play for the Express rather then his town team. We are not talking about marginal role players we are talking about arguably the top players on the team.
That doesn't happen, if it happened to your child then maybe you need to take a look in the mirror and stop making excuses why your son wasn't get play time and face the facts maybe he didn't deserve it and it had nothing to do with what club team he played on.
That doesn't happen, if it happened to your child then maybe you need to take a look in the mirror and stop making excuses why your son wasn't get play time and face the facts maybe he didn't deserve it and it had nothing to do with what club team he played on.
Oh my god! YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!! THESE ARE 13 YEAR OLD BOYS. THIS IS VERY DISHEARTING TO READ THESE BLOGS. FIRST OFF I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE BOYS FOR AN OUTSTANDING WEEKEND. BOYS, THE STATISTICS DON'T LIE AND MAYBE THESE PARENTS SHOULD GO TO THE MAD LAX WEBSITE AND CHECK IT OUT BECAUSE ALL THESE NASTY COMMENTS ARE USELESS.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do you really want us to believe that a HS coach will bench his best player or players because they play for the Express rather then his town team. We are not talking about marginal role players we are talking about arguably the top players on the team.
That doesn't happen, if it happened to your child then maybe you need to take a look in the mirror and stop making excuses why your son wasn't get play time and face the facts maybe he didn't deserve it and it had nothing to do with what club team he played on.
That doesn't happen, if it happened to your child then maybe you need to take a look in the mirror and stop making excuses why your son wasn't get play time and face the facts maybe he didn't deserve it and it had nothing to do with what club team he played on.
All I'm saying is that if you have two kids that are roughly equal at the same position and one plays for the coache's club and the other doesn't, who do you think will win the tie breaker? Instead of guessing, you should go ahead and ask your son's HS coach. Please post his answer here. Thanks. Also, ask the director of the Express if he'd play an fl$ or Jesters kid over an Express kid in a HS game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh my god! YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!! THESE ARE 13 YEAR OLD BOYS. THIS IS VERY DISHEARTING TO READ THESE BLOGS. FIRST OFF I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE BOYS FOR AN OUTSTANDING WEEKEND. BOYS, THE STATISTICS DON'T LIE AND MAYBE THESE PARENTS SHOULD GO TO THE MAD LAX WEBSITE AND CHECK IT OUT BECAUSE ALL THESE NASTY COMMENTS ARE USELESS.
What nasty comments are your referring to? None of what has been said here has disparaged what the boys have done on the field. This debate is all about organizational decisions made by adults. Nobody on this forum is criticizing the kids. Relax, take a deep breath and dont follow this anymore if you are going to take it so personally.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No body has been crying foul at the turtles. Now scorned parents are crying over a very talented team. For the record express did not put this team together it was handed too them. They would be foolish not to take this team. They went to mad lax and dismantled long standing deep programs of marylands best teams. I raise my hat to these KIDS not parents. These kids stay together the whole team signs to D-1 schools the high school coach can do nothing about it. Maybe Jonny should practice more
If the Express didn't put this team together then who did? No parent has enough time or connections to pull together kids from 5 or 6 different programs in a short period of time. If there were parents involved ...they need to get a life and a real job!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No body has been crying foul at the turtles. Now scorned parents are crying over a very talented team. For the record express did not put this team together it was handed too them. They would be foolish not to take this team. They went to mad lax and dismantled long standing deep programs of marylands best teams. I raise my hat to these KIDS not parents. These kids stay together the whole team signs to D-1 schools the high school coach can do nothing about it. Maybe Jonny should practice more
"...the whole team signs to D-1 schools..." ... Are you kidding me? I feel sorry for your kid if your expectations for him are that high at this age...do your kid a favor and don't let him know thats what you expect. Good luck with that.
It may be hard to believe but it is true. A single parent is responsible for putting this team together. This parent should be commended for doing an outstanding job of drafting a highly talented and well respected group of lacrosse players who all have the same common goal of competing at the highest level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No body has been crying foul at the turtles. Now scorned parents are crying over a very talented team. For the record express did not put this team together it was handed too them. They would be foolish not to take this team. They went to mad lax and dismantled long standing deep programs of marylands best teams. I raise my hat to these KIDS not parents. These kids stay together the whole team signs to D-1 schools the high school coach can do nothing about it. Maybe Jonny should practice more
If this team was "handed" to the Express then who was qualified enough to make the evaluations of who should be invited and who shouldn't? Some random parent with an agenda who couldn't possibly know all of the kids on all of the teams that were poached? The Express can correct this problem by holding an open tryout for all of the excellent players who were not known about by these self-empowered parents.
express did not put this team together. There were people put alot of time and energy. If this was your kids and it was duke virginia hopkins this would be great. They whipped up on some great competition. Give them their do let them play only the best and excel all big schools will be waiting playing at their level. Any other team would have scooped these kids up. Stop blaming the express if you knew what really happened you would be shocked. It is you who needs to do his homework
Are you suggesting that the Manhasset Mavericks are run by the Manhasset Varsity coach and the Manhasset School district permits such a conflict of interest? That its "line my pockets with summer gold or wear splinters in your bench warming arse next year"?
they beat the best team in the country twice if that is not talent i dont know what is when you can pick a team and go 5 and 0 61 goals for 10 against and three shut outs enough said
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Are you suggesting that the Manhasset Mavericks are run by the Manhasset Varsity coach and the Manhasset School district permits such a conflict of interest? That its "line my pockets with summer gold or wear splinters in your bench warming arse next year"?
Sounds like the single parent that put this together is from Manhasset...whatever. Good luck to all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you suggesting that the Manhasset Mavericks are run by the Manhasset Varsity coach and the Manhasset School district permits such a conflict of interest? That its "line my pockets with summer gold or wear splinters in your bench warming arse next year"?
Sounds like the single parent that put this together is from Manhasset...whatever. Good luck to all.
If true easy to figure out from there. Whatever, none of us will remember this stuff 2 years from now...but good debate. fl$ will not let this grade slip away and will get it right with all of the kids who feel overlooked and have something to prove. Should be epic battles between fl$ and Cudas the next couple of years.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
they beat the best team in the country twice if that is not talent i dont know what is when you can pick a team and go 5 and 0 61 goals for 10 against and three shut outs enough said
If they are so good...then they probably have some kids that by age could easily be in the grade above and they were left back a year. Lets see how they do if they ever get a chance to challenge themselves by playing a select club team that is a year older than they are. I'm sure the fl$ 2015 team would love to play them..that will be the real test...
Take a step back and evaluate what each person's motives are before you take too much from what they are saying.
For the parents of the boys from the barracuda team, sounds like you had a great time and your child was very fortunate to have been chosen. (win-win)
For the parents of the players not chosen from the various teams. (lose-lose)
Feelings probably hurt for the boys not selected and now because of the success of the barracuda team those boys left behind must be feeling that the top players from their team might not be coming back.
Probably the people doing the most bitching are from the (lose-lose) category. So you must take all of the negative spin being spun out of control as nothing more then sour grapes.
For the parents of the boys from the barracuda team, sounds like you had a great time and your child was very fortunate to have been chosen. (win-win)
For the parents of the players not chosen from the various teams. (lose-lose)
Feelings probably hurt for the boys not selected and now because of the success of the barracuda team those boys left behind must be feeling that the top players from their team might not be coming back.
Probably the people doing the most bitching are from the (lose-lose) category. So you must take all of the negative spin being spun out of control as nothing more then sour grapes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
they beat the best team in the country twice if that is not talent i dont know what is when you can pick a team and go 5 and 0 61 goals for 10 against and three shut outs enough said
The Looney's U13AA team is a very good one (not nearly as good as last year's version, though), so beating them is an accomplishment. Madlax is an ok team - nowhere near as good as the Looney's, however, and the rest of the field in that tournament was marginal at best.
Also, imagine if the Looney's, Crabs, Greene Turtle and some other Baltimore clubs put together an All-Star roster. Or if some DC clubs like VLC, Madlax, Next Level and Club Blue put together a single team for one event. If you are going to tout the accomplishments of a single All-Star team assembled for one tournament, then you have to compare how it would have fared against All-Star teams from other hotbeds.
Since there is no such thing as U14 at most tournaments, the Cudas will have to step up to U15 where they will face a whole different level of size, strength and speed than they've ever seen before. Lets see how they do against perennial U15 powerhouses like the Crabs U15.
Please shock us all then
D1 schools? Is that what you were told? Curious - before all these club teams started popping up how did anyone ever get to a D1 school in years past?
This was a comment from laxpower this morning:
I am parent of a team the express played. I'll be honest we played zone against them which for 13 year olds could
be considered "bush league". Now our goalie is very good and the express proceeded to run an offense that simply annihilated us. Complete unselfishness , No boistrous cheering, no complaints about zone just played lacrosse the way it's suppose to be played. Parents even congratulated our goalie for making nice saves. This summer lax? Best team by far in many ways.
I am parent of a team the express played. I'll be honest we played zone against them which for 13 year olds could
be considered "bush league". Now our goalie is very good and the express proceeded to run an offense that simply annihilated us. Complete unselfishness , No boistrous cheering, no complaints about zone just played lacrosse the way it's suppose to be played. Parents even congratulated our goalie for making nice saves. This summer lax? Best team by far in many ways.
You may want to check your facts. The parent who coordinated the Barracuda team is NOT from Manhasset, he's from Dix Hills. His son played on Team 91.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No body has been crying foul at the turtles. Now scorned parents are crying over a very talented team. For the record express did not put this team together it was handed too them. They would be foolish not to take this team. They went to mad lax and dismantled long standing deep programs of marylands best teams. I raise my hat to these KIDS not parents. These kids stay together the whole team signs to D-1 schools the high school coach can do nothing about it. Maybe Jonny should practice more
Sorry to say but you need to GET OFF THE CRAZY TRAIN NOW! You missed your stop a long time ago. With the explosion of the sport across the U.S. and Canada combined with the penalty of living in a populous state like New [lacrosse] where admissions offices are overwhelmed with NY applications, the chances of any Cuda kid sniffing a D1 lax field are about 1 or 2 out of 20. So, there is an 80-90% chance that your kid will fall far short of your unrealistic athletic goals for him. Will that make him a failure in your eyes? Hope not. I call this the ESPNU parent couch potato syndrome and it is really a disaster for our kids. Take a look at the current D1 rosters. Every year there are more and more kids filling those rosters from outside of the lax "hotbeds". And consider that the current LI D1 players went through the recruiting process in a much less competitive environment than what a 2016 kid will face. All of this will eventually lead to more pressure among the Cuda kids and sooner or later the parent backstabbing and bitching about unequal field time and exposure for each kid that will blow this team apart. All because of expectations like from this parent that every kid is one of "the chosen" and destined for D1. I've seen this many times before. Watch what happens when the kid of the parent who put this team together always seems to be a starter and mysterically gets more playing time than any other kid at his position. And, he's probably playing for free or a severly discounted rate. Seen that before too. Enjoy the fireworkds.
Do yourselves and your kids a favor - tone down the expectations and try to just enjoy the ride.
You need to relax. Just remember to all who make these ridulous comments about the express lets wait and see what the upcoming season holds. Now maybe they wouldn't want you on their sidelines
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No body has been crying foul at the turtles. Now scorned parents are crying over a very talented team. For the record express did not put this team together it was handed too them. They would be foolish not to take this team. They went to mad lax and dismantled long standing deep programs of marylands best teams. I raise my hat to these KIDS not parents. These kids stay together the whole team signs to D-1 schools the high school coach can do nothing about it. Maybe Jonny should practice more
1. It was an impressive performance. But that's not a team - it's a group of 12-13 year old mercenaries (or maybe older).
2. They beat down Looney's in the 1st game, and won convincingly in the 2nd. They did NOT "dismantled long standing deep programs of marylands best teams". Madlax is a good team, but they are from DC. The other teams were terrible. The fact that you state that the field were "long standing deep programs of marylands best teams" shows you have no idea what you're talking about.
3. If you think all of those kids are going Division 1, you truly are delusional.
Everyone in youth lacrosse is talking about what a scumbag move it was for the Express to bring down an All-Star team and kick their own kids off. I predict they'll regret their actions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No body has been crying foul at the turtles. Now scorned parents are crying over a very talented team. For the record express did not put this team together it was handed too them. They would be foolish not to take this team. They went to mad lax and dismantled long standing deep programs of marylands best teams. I raise my hat to these KIDS not parents. These kids stay together the whole team signs to D-1 schools the high school coach can do nothing about it. Maybe Jonny should practice more
Sorry to say but you need to GET OFF THE CRAZY TRAIN NOW! You missed your stop a long time ago. With the explosion of the sport across the U.S. and Canada combined with the penalty of living in a populous state like New [lacrosse] where admissions offices are overwhelmed with NY applications, the chances of any Cuda kid sniffing a D1 lax field are about 1 or 2 out of 20. So, there is an 80-90% chance that your kid will fall far short of your unrealistic athletic goals for him. Will that make him a failure in your eyes? Hope not. I call this the ESPNU parent couch potato syndrome and it is really a disaster for our kids. Take a look at the current D1 rosters. Every year there are more and more kids filling those rosters from outside of the lax "hotbeds". And consider that the current LI D1 players went through the recruiting process in a much less competitive environment than what a 2016 kid will face. All of this will eventually lead to more pressure among the Cuda kids and sooner or later the parent backstabbing and bitching about unequal field time and exposure for each kid that will blow this team apart. All because of expectations like from this parent that every kid is one of "the chosen" and destined for D1. I've seen this many times before. Watch what happens when the kid of the parent who put this team together always seems to be a starter and mysterically gets more playing time than any other kid at his position. And, he's probably playing for free or a severly discounted rate. Seen that before too. Enjoy the fireworkds.
Do yourselves and your kids a favor - tone down the expectations and try to just enjoy the ride.
Interesting points...probably true that the parents that want it the most for their kids are the ones that 1) Never played a sport either in high school or college and 2) have the kids that burn out or crumble under the pressure of their parents. Also, be careful what you wish for, lots of kids who play D1 realize that it was a mistake and either drop out of the sport or decide to play at a school that is academically below their potential all because their parents wanted to see them play D1 lax and there wasnt a spot available at the better school. What a shame and a waste...If you really want your kid to go D1, tell him/her to pick up a book, not a lax stick.
I guess the express are more focused on the younger groups because the older groups did not do very well this summer. They beat their chests about tournament championships. The rising sophomore team finished 3rd in the u15 national championship in Fl. That's a good showing but first place was fl$ and second place was the LI Jesters. Express lost head to head to the Jesters in NYLAX tournament. fl$ beat them in semis in Fla.
I guess its time for a new coach on the 2014 and 2013 teams.
2013 team didn't win any tournaments.
I guess its time for a new coach on the 2014 and 2013 teams.
2013 team didn't win any tournaments.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You may want to check your facts. The parent who coordinated the Barracuda team is NOT from Manhasset, he's from Dix Hills. His son played on Team 91.
Maybe true but he needed help. It was obvious who the disgruntled and manipulative parents were on the other teams who did not have their kids show up for tournaments toward the end and bailed on their teams - great parenting and great lesson for the kids.
Originally Posted by laxfan14
I guess the express are more focused on the younger groups because the older groups did not do very well this summer. They beat their chests about tournament championships. The rising sophomore team finished 3rd in the u15 national championship in Fl. That's a good showing but first place was fl$ and second place was the LI Jesters. Express lost head to head to the Jesters in NYLAX tournament. fl$ beat them in semis in Fla.
I guess its time for a new coach on the 2014 and 2013 teams.
2013 team didn't win any tournaments.
I guess its time for a new coach on the 2014 and 2013 teams.
2013 team didn't win any tournaments.
Ask any fl$ U15 player and they will tell you that the semifinal game vs the Express was the real championship game and that the Express gave them a much tougher fight than the Jesters. In fact, the Express was up by a goal with just a couple of minutes left. Give the Express credit, they were the 2nd best team there. If the Jesters had been on the fl$ side of the bracket they wouldn't have made it to the final - luck of the draw.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by laxfan14
I guess the express are more focused on the younger groups because the older groups did not do very well this summer. They beat their chests about tournament championships. The rising sophomore team finished 3rd in the u15 national championship in Fl. That's a good showing but first place was fl$ and second place was the LI Jesters. Express lost head to head to the Jesters in NYLAX tournament. fl$ beat them in semis in Fla.
I guess its time for a new coach on the 2014 and 2013 teams.
2013 team didn't win any tournaments.
I guess its time for a new coach on the 2014 and 2013 teams.
2013 team didn't win any tournaments.
Ask any fl$ U15 player and they will tell you that the semifinal game vs the Express was the real championship game and that the Express gave them a much tougher fight than the Jesters. In fact, the Express was up by a goal with just a couple of minutes left. Give the Express credit, they were the 2nd best team there. If the Jesters had been on the fl$ side of the bracket they wouldn't have made it to the final - luck of the draw.
And if the Crabs and/or Looney's had been there, some of those teams wouldn't have sniffed the final four. Or a number of other U15 teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by laxfan14
I guess the express are more focused on the younger groups because the older groups did not do very well this summer. They beat their chests about tournament championships. The rising sophomore team finished 3rd in the u15 national championship in Fl. That's a good showing but first place was fl$ and second place was the LI Jesters. Express lost head to head to the Jesters in NYLAX tournament. fl$ beat them in semis in Fla.
I guess its time for a new coach on the 2014 and 2013 teams.
2013 team didn't win any tournaments.
I guess its time for a new coach on the 2014 and 2013 teams.
2013 team didn't win any tournaments.
Ask any fl$ U15 player and they will tell you that the semifinal game vs the Express was the real championship game and that the Express gave them a much tougher fight than the Jesters. In fact, the Express was up by a goal with just a couple of minutes left. Give the Express credit, they were the 2nd best team there. If the Jesters had been on the fl$ side of the bracket they wouldn't have made it to the final - luck of the draw.
And if the Crabs and/or Looney's had been there, some of those teams wouldn't have sniffed the final four. Or a number of other U15 teams.
The Crabs and Looney's would probably lose 30-40% of their team based on the 8/31 date they use as opposed to the 12/31 date used in the National tournament. Don't be so sure of your statement! losing 8-10 of your oldest kids can definitely effect the quality of your team!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by laxfan14
I guess the express are more focused on the younger groups because the older groups did not do very well this summer. They beat their chests about tournament championships. The rising sophomore team finished 3rd in the u15 national championship in Fl. That's a good showing but first place was fl$ and second place was the LI Jesters. Express lost head to head to the Jesters in NYLAX tournament. fl$ beat them in semis in Fla.
I guess its time for a new coach on the 2014 and 2013 teams.
2013 team didn't win any tournaments.
I guess its time for a new coach on the 2014 and 2013 teams.
2013 team didn't win any tournaments.
Ask any fl$ U15 player and they will tell you that the semifinal game vs the Express was the real championship game and that the Express gave them a much tougher fight than the Jesters. In fact, the Express was up by a goal with just a couple of minutes left. Give the Express credit, they were the 2nd best team there. If the Jesters had been on the fl$ side of the bracket they wouldn't have made it to the final - luck of the draw.
And if the Crabs and/or Looney's had been there, some of those teams wouldn't have sniffed the final four. Or a number of other U15 teams.
The Crabs and Looney's would probably lose 30-40% of their team based on the 8/31 date they use as opposed to the 12/31 date used in the National tournament. Don't be so sure of your statement! losing 8-10 of your oldest kids can definitely effect the quality of your team!
Bingo...thats why the Crabs and Looneys would rather make excuses about why its not worth their time rather than just showing up to play...As hard as it is for MD to accept, for the next year three long island programs will be considered the standard for U15 by the USL.
No. The 2nd best team was the Jesters. The Jesters beat MLC ,who handled the express twice at tri-state. Face it , the express beat up on bad teams and couldn't beat quality teams all summer. Don't forget, Jesters beat express at Farmingdale.
all sign with D1 schools ? lets see, 56 D1 teams, 8 players per class. 448 D1 signees per year. aprox 50,000 u13 players nationwide. 20 cudas. I guess that leaves just 428 spots for the rest of the 49,980 kids. Good luck
The Lacrosse Magazine All-Tournament team was named following the completion of the U/15 National Championship. For the Love of the Game took top honors followed by the Long Island Jesters and the Long Island Express for a regional sweep of the top three positions.
The 12 players honored, with positions and club programs noted:
Attackman Ian Kirby, Long Island Express (N.Y.)
Attackman Dawes Milchling, Maryland Lacrosse Club
Attackman Justin McBride, For the Love of the Game (N.Y.)
Midfielder Joe Reid, Nor Cal Talons
Midfielder Brian Eletti, For the Love of the Game (N.Y.)
Midfield Evan Gagne, Long Island Jesters (N.Y.)
Midfielder Nick Suchoki, Long Island Jesters (N.Y.)
Midfielder Carney Mahon, For the Love of the Game (N.Y.)
Defenseman Benjamin Joy, Long Island Express (N.Y.)
Defenseman Robert Vavassis, For the Love of the Game (N.Y.)
Defenseman Billy Andrle, Long Island Jesters (N.Y.)
Goalie Michael Terracciano, For the Love of the Game (N.Y.)
Congratulations to all the players and teams.
The 12 players honored, with positions and club programs noted:
Attackman Ian Kirby, Long Island Express (N.Y.)
Attackman Dawes Milchling, Maryland Lacrosse Club
Attackman Justin McBride, For the Love of the Game (N.Y.)
Midfielder Joe Reid, Nor Cal Talons
Midfielder Brian Eletti, For the Love of the Game (N.Y.)
Midfield Evan Gagne, Long Island Jesters (N.Y.)
Midfielder Nick Suchoki, Long Island Jesters (N.Y.)
Midfielder Carney Mahon, For the Love of the Game (N.Y.)
Defenseman Benjamin Joy, Long Island Express (N.Y.)
Defenseman Robert Vavassis, For the Love of the Game (N.Y.)
Defenseman Billy Andrle, Long Island Jesters (N.Y.)
Goalie Michael Terracciano, For the Love of the Game (N.Y.)
Congratulations to all the players and teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
all sign with D1 schools ? lets see, 56 D1 teams, 8 players per class. 448 D1 signees per year. aprox 50,000 u13 players nationwide. 20 cudas. I guess that leaves just 428 spots for the rest of the 49,980 kids. Good luck
Typical rosters are actually 35-40 players in D1 so its usually 8-12 recruits per year but thats just a rounding error on the number of U13 players. Not to mention that a fully funded program has only 12.6 scholarships to divide across the entire roster. A few might get a half but most only get 10-20%. Conclusion? Unless your kid is a genius, keep brownbaggin....
For the record express played an extra tournament this season. This team was handed to them,after the season was over. They had 4 days of practice under their belt. Give them there due all are jealous because you got beat to the punch. I personally know the outlaws were reaching out to get express kids and so were the raiders. Read 91 blogs everyone hates it. All teams have tryouts and try to pick top players. If jonny didnt make the barracudas he probably wouldnt make it this coming year. GROW UP AND LET THE KIDS PLAY. THIS IS TRUELY ABOUT PARENTS RATING THEIR KIDS AFTER DRINKING A BOTTLE>.
Top 2014 On Li Are in No Order Outlaws Black(Beat Jesters and Express This year) Could not Play in FLA to Many Nov dec Birth Dates. Express Orange(They are very Good) fl$ and Jesters. All 4 Teams are Top Notch. Do Not Put any Down, They all have Many big Time players and all VERY Good organazations.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by laxfan14
I guess the express are more focused on the younger groups because the older groups did not do very well this summer. They beat their chests about tournament championships. The rising sophomore team finished 3rd in the u15 national championship in Fl. That's a good showing but first place was fl$ and second place was the LI Jesters. Express lost head to head to the Jesters in NYLAX tournament. fl$ beat them in semis in Fla.
I guess its time for a new coach on the 2014 and 2013 teams.
2013 team didn't win any tournaments.
I guess its time for a new coach on the 2014 and 2013 teams.
2013 team didn't win any tournaments.
Ask any fl$ U15 player and they will tell you that the semifinal game vs the Express was the real championship game and that the Express gave them a much tougher fight than the Jesters. In fact, the Express was up by a goal with just a couple of minutes left. Give the Express credit, they were the 2nd best team there. If the Jesters had been on the fl$ side of the bracket they wouldn't have made it to the final - luck of the draw.
And if the Crabs and/or Looney's had been there, some of those teams wouldn't have sniffed the final four. Or a number of other U15 teams.
The Crabs and Looney's would probably lose 30-40% of their team based on the 8/31 date they use as opposed to the 12/31 date used in the National tournament. Don't be so sure of your statement! losing 8-10 of your oldest kids can definitely effect the quality of your team!
Bingo...thats why the Crabs and Looneys would rather make excuses about why its not worth their time rather than just showing up to play...As hard as it is for MD to accept, for the next year three long island programs will be considered the standard for U15 by the USL.
LOL! I'm not from MD, nor am I am supporter of either Crabs or Looney's, but your comment is off base. For U15, the 8/31 cutoff rarely comes into play because the overwhelming majority of these kids play ONE year at U15 because they are rising freshman who will then play for their HS team (which is supposed to prohibit them from playing U15 ball in every tournament except this bogus USL Florida tournament).
So for this year, those teams are comprised of kids in 8th who are born in 1997.
The U15 Crabs destroyed everyone this year and last year's U13 Looney's team was dominant. Both would have excelled in that tournament - even with those teams with rising sophomores.
Just curious, what towns were represented on this Barracuda team? (no names, just towns that the kids were from)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the record express played an extra tournament this season. This team was handed to them,after the season was over. They had 4 days of practice under their belt. Give them there due all are jealous because you got beat to the punch. I personally know the outlaws were reaching out to get express kids and so were the raiders. Read 91 blogs everyone hates it. All teams have tryouts and try to pick top players. If jonny didnt make the barracudas he probably wouldnt make it this coming year. GROW UP AND LET THE KIDS PLAY. THIS IS TRUELY ABOUT PARENTS RATING THEIR KIDS AFTER DRINKING A BOTTLE>.
So poaching players from kids already on other clubs is ok because others may do it (and obviously on a smaller scale)?
Express 2016 was a pathetic last seed at Tri-State, right? What does it say about the Express program, directors and coaches that they play great after they bring in players FROM OTHER TEAMS?
Again you don't get it. Why was this team handed to the express. If all these other programs were so good these kids could of played anywhere. I guess coaching and resources didn't count. Any program would have taken these kids too bad they didn't pick your kid and your program. You all blame express but you haven't gotten it they did not put them together. They have given many kids a chance too play on the island. Tell me one program that would not have taken these kids. Like a guy last night said the turtles are in a different class why aren't you crying about them
I thought each team has a tryout every year no one is exempt isn't that true? You mean only the best kids are brought back and exempted give me a break. Hope you believe that
U guys make me want to PUKE with the poaching stories. Team 91 just poached every player in there program from other programs. They literally destroyed the Hills Team but it was OK because it was for the Boy$$$$$$$ yes Boy$$$$ STop the BS and go away. Its BUSINE$$$$ they all line there poaching pocket$.
Turtles only beat orange team 4 t 2
At the end of the day every parent should evaluate thier experience for the summer. Long Island has plenty of programs to choose from; for boys and girls. Players jump from team to team each and every year, kids have been jumping from H.S. to H.S.! If you think you had good coaching and played in quality events great..if not try another club. Stay out of the petty name calling and trash talk.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles only beat orange team 4 t 2
Turtles are 2017. Which Orange team did they beat by 2? Orange 2017 or Orange 2016?
This board will light up like Times Square when other clubs start successfully poaching the Cuda players..
Keep the fascinating debate going! Question? And this may be old school, but why are kids going to these clubs in first place? Why aren't they staying or growing with the town they live in? Seems to be plenty of talent on the island. At the HS level the rivalry of the towns is great. A sense of community if you will - East Islip v West Islip as an example (pick whatever rivalry you like). I would think that if a team from a town like WI played in a tournament that they would fare well?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles only beat orange team 4 t 2
Turtles are 2017. Which Orange team did they beat by 2? Orange 2017 or Orange 2016?
he is referring to the 2017 team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep the fascinating debate going! Question? And this may be old school, but why are kids going to these clubs in first place? Why aren't they staying or growing with the town they live in? Seems to be plenty of talent on the island. At the HS level the rivalry of the towns is great. A sense of community if you will - East Islip v West Islip as an example (pick whatever rivalry you like). I would think that if a team from a town like WI played in a tournament that they would fare well?
In my experience, on the town teams you get a mix of players: those who are strong and those who are there for a variety of reasons (social, parents signed 'em up, whatever) but who have less skill. The stronger players end up frustrated, and while they may enjoy the social aspect of the local team they are less happy with being on the field with players who aren't as dedicated (read skilled). I'm sure I'll get flack for saying that, but it's true. These kids want to broaden their sports experience and play more competitively.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This board will light up like Times Square when other clubs start successfully poaching the Cuda players..
Another WHAAAA my kid didn't get picked. Let me guess you are also a super coach who should have played in a D1 program but got screwed by somewhaaan
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This board will light up like Times Square when other clubs start successfully poaching the Cuda players..
Another WHAAAA my kid didn't get picked. Let me guess you are also a super coach who should have played in a D1 program but got screwed by somewhaaan
What goes around...comes around...
I would think though that these towns have some scale - an A and B? Just seems like an A team from a strong town/program (even at the youth level) like WI would be able to compete with a club team? In re reading some of these threads that there are more clubs popping up, kids switching (or being poached) that a town would be able to compete? While I'm sure some of the similar issues would exist it seems in theory that a B player would be working hard to try and make that A team, thus keeping the A player from not letting up to lose a spot - thus creating a very competitve environment? Would that B player who finally earned the A team for a town like WI might have more of a sense of pride for the town than if he made an express or 91 or other club teams mentioned here? Just a thought.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would think though that these towns have some scale - an A and B? Just seems like an A team from a strong town/program (even at the youth level) like WI would be able to compete with a club team? In re reading some of these threads that there are more clubs popping up, kids switching (or being poached) that a town would be able to compete? While I'm sure some of the similar issues would exist it seems in theory that a B player would be working hard to try and make that A team, thus keeping the A player from not letting up to lose a spot - thus creating a very competitve environment? Would that B player who finally earned the A team for a town like WI might have more of a sense of pride for the town than if he made an express or 91 or other club teams mentioned here? Just a thought.
Ya know what? Maybe. Depends on the town. My town is small, not likely we'd ever be competive with a club team. We did have A and B teams. Well, first we had two teams with the talent spread out, which frustrated the better players. Then the powers that be re-sorted the teams into true A and B, and all [lacrosse] broke loose. Lots of B players were all sorts of outraged. A lot of bad feelings toward the coaches were verbalized, people were up in arms. The league stuck to its guns and, in the end, things settled down for the most part. Some B players quit because they didn't feel they were being recognized. Oh well.
It's one thing for a for-profit club to want to attract the best possible players. It's another for them to selectively poach players who are CURRENTLY PLAYING FOR OTHER CLUBS.
This might be the scummiest move I've ever seen in youth lacrosse. Everyone is talking about it, and I predict the Express will regret this move.
This might be the scummiest move I've ever seen in youth lacrosse. Everyone is talking about it, and I predict the Express will regret this move.
Has the Express emailed any of their original 2016 Orange families explaining (let alone apologizing) for this travesty?
Get your head out of the clouds. Players leave organizations every year. Oops didn't one of the 91 directors/owners "poach" his entire team from last year with the Express and bring them to 91 this year.
Your kidding me express orange was promised 5 games they played six. That teams season was over before the tournament in maryland. The team was terrible. Now handed a team from the outside they weren't call orange the were called the barracudas express what is your point
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your kidding me express orange was promised 5 games they played six. That teams season was over before the tournament in maryland. The team was terrible. Now handed a team from the outside they weren't call orange the were called the barracudas express what is your point
They weren't going to call the team "orange". The issue is the way this team was put together. Lots of deceipt and shady back room deals while kids were still playing for their teams. Not to mention all the garbage being posted here by one guy. If you're not happy with your situation, move on. Don't ruin it for the rest of the team (kids and parents included) because you've got an axe to grind and can post anonymously on here.
not to worry express people. Most of the Barracuda kids from outside the express are going back to their teams anyway.
Express should just get through the tryouts and disband the Barracuda label...following the tryouts, pick all of the Cuda kids (along with a couple of kids from this year's Orange team just to quiet the peanut gallery) to be next summer's Express Orange 2016 team and be done with all of this bad publicity. There is no promise or guarentee for any kid on the 2016 Orange team from this past summer to make the team again for next summer. Problem solved for the Express...
I think they should have all tryout. If they get great talent make a barracudda team top. Travel and compete at the top level then keep your orange and blue teams as always. This makes the tryouts worth something. Johnny has to make it on his own and would get that chance. Not who has a brother who donates more or who do we not want to [lacrosse] off.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express should just get through the tryouts and disband the Barracuda label...following the tryouts, pick all of the Cuda kids (along with a couple of kids from this year's Orange team just to quiet the peanut gallery) to be next summer's Express Orange 2016 team and be done with all of this bad publicity. There is no promise or guarentee for any kid on the 2016 Orange team from this past summer to make the team again for next summer. Problem solved for the Express...
First the Turtles now the Barracudas. Of Course Tryouts and ur teams are done. I love the smell of VICTORY. The Orange team name will remain for the express. But the rising 8th Cudas will be the TEAM to beat. They will be very strong
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express should just get through the tryouts and disband the Barracuda label...following the tryouts, pick all of the Cuda kids (along with a couple of kids from this year's Orange team just to quiet the peanut gallery) to be next summer's Express Orange 2016 team and be done with all of this bad publicity. There is no promise or guarentee for any kid on the 2016 Orange team from this past summer to make the team again for next summer. Problem solved for the Express...
Yeah, I guess there's no reason to show a little loyalty to kids/parents who played for you/paid good money.
There's no issue if the Express (or any club) forms a new team with new tryouts. The issue is poaching players from other clubs DURING THE SEASON and kicking your existing players to the curb.
Doesn't matter - damage is done. The Express leadership has revealed itself to be a bunch of scumbags.
Note that we have opened a new Boys 2016 thread for discussion of all the teams across clubs in this age group. Please contribute there and reserve the Express thread for discussion of specific club issues.
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Now stop whining and get a life
Now stop whining and get a life
How many tournaments and which ones did top 2015 girls team attend this past season? I am interested in letting my daughter tryout.
One fl$ 2016 kid was poached for the Cuda's....a bunch of the 2015 fl$ boys are going to St. Anthony's but staying with fl$ - it will be interesting to see what happens - will the coach show allegiance to Express boys over more talented fl$ boys?
Not sure the 2016 fl$ kid was poached, if you know what I'm talking about.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure the 2016 fl$ kid was poached, if you know what I'm talking about.
I heard the same...fl$ was happy to see the nevery satisfied father leave...
I find this very hard to believe because my son played on the same fl$ team and both the kid and the father were very well-liked by the coaches and the fl$ Director.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find this very hard to believe because my son played on the same fl$ team and both the kid and the father were very well-liked by the coaches and the fl$ Director.
Badmouthing the whole 2016 fl$ situation and not showing up for last fl$ tournament in Boston is all that needs to be said. Whatever...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure the 2016 fl$ kid was poached, if you know what I'm talking about.
If the kid wasn't poached that can only mean that they are walking voluntarily because they (father and/or son) were not satisfied with the 2016 fl$ experience. If unsatisfied, I'm sure the fl$ program is happy to see them leave rather than have disgruntled parents on the team. Regardless, message to fl$...get your act together in this grade!
The fl$ 2016 team had its challenges this summer but this kid never quit on the team. On the contrary, he often carried the team along with a few others. He couldn't make the Harvard tournament due to illness. Sounds like YOU are the bad mouthing parent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fl$ 2016 team had its challenges this summer but this kid never quit on the team. On the contrary, he often carried the team along with a few others. He couldn't make the Harvard tournament due to illness. Sounds like YOU are the bad mouthing parent.
Lets see who returns to fl$...that will tell alot about quitting on a program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fl$ 2016 team had its challenges this summer but this kid never quit on the team. On the contrary, he often carried the team along with a few others. He couldn't make the Harvard tournament due to illness. Sounds like YOU are the bad mouthing parent.
Thats not the story that's been going around...whatever, it's only one player and its only 2016. fl$ will be fine without him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fl$ 2016 team had its challenges this summer but this kid never quit on the team. On the contrary, he often carried the team along with a few others. He couldn't make the Harvard tournament due to illness. Sounds like YOU are the bad mouthing parent.
Don't blame the kid - he's a good kid. Its probably the father who's yanking his kid all over the place. He seemed VERY involved...a little too involved if you know what I mean.
fl$ charges alot more than any of the local teams, yet their teams are not any better. Why are they charging so much more?
$1500 plus tournament fees, plus purchasing a helmet from them.
The coaching is not any better than anywhere else.
That is just gouging the kids for no reason. The kids they target are from the wealthier towns. I guess they figure they could afford it.
$1500 plus tournament fees, plus purchasing a helmet from them.
The coaching is not any better than anywhere else.
That is just gouging the kids for no reason. The kids they target are from the wealthier towns. I guess they figure they could afford it.
This is starting to sound like you have some kind of a personal vendetta against this father. He happens to be a real standup guy. If his kid is changing teams, you can bet it's because the kid wants it. After the experience he had playing for the 'Cuda team who can blame him. Stop badmouthing the father. You are obviously disgruntled and jealous that this kid has this opportunity so you're taking out on his father.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ charges alot more than any of the local teams, yet their teams are not any better. Why are they charging so much more?
$1500 plus tournament fees, plus purchasing a helmet from them.
The coaching is not any better than anywhere else.
That is just gouging the kids for no reason. The kids they target are from the wealthier towns. I guess they figure they could afford it.
$1500 plus tournament fees, plus purchasing a helmet from them.
The coaching is not any better than anywhere else.
That is just gouging the kids for no reason. The kids they target are from the wealthier towns. I guess they figure they could afford it.
Plus $125 just to tryout. For the Love of the $$$$$$
fl$ is actually charging $1,700.
amazing that is states on there site they are a non-profit.
how are you a non-profit charging more than anyone else?
amazing that is states on there site they are a non-profit.
how are you a non-profit charging more than anyone else?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is starting to sound like you have some kind of a personal vendetta against this father. He happens to be a real standup guy. If his kid is changing teams, you can bet it's because the kid wants it. After the experience he had playing for the 'Cuda team who can blame him. Stop badmouthing the father. You are obviously disgruntled and jealous that this kid has this opportunity so you're taking out on his father.
When its just one kid who is "selected" for the Cudas, who may not have even been the most talented kid on the team, it opens the door for criticism of that one kid or father from the others who feel they should have been given consideration. It's over though...lets move on...
That kid was clearly the most talented on that team. hands down.
I want to know what all the CUDA parents are going to do when the express director starts cutting the kids who are NOT going to St. Anthonys?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is starting to sound like you have some kind of a personal vendetta against this father. He happens to be a real standup guy. If his kid is changing teams, you can bet it's because the kid wants it. After the experience he had playing for the 'Cuda team who can blame him. Stop badmouthing the father. You are obviously disgruntled and jealous that this kid has this opportunity so you're taking out on his father.
Personal vendetta? A little strong don't you think? The guy is not worth the time or effort of a "vendetta"...whatever that entails. No, just another jerky dad who has evidently fooled some as pretending to be a standup guy ...but not all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I want to know what all the CUDA parents are going to do when the express director starts cutting the kids who are NOT going to St. Anthonys?
Teams like the Cudas may be immune from that...Besides, that may have been the case in the past but I think it is changing. They want to put the best kids out there no matter where they play high school. What good would it do for the Express brand to take a less talented St. Anthony's kid over a more productive Non-St. Anthony's kid. By doing that they would 1) Damage the brand with an inferior product on the field and 2) Develop a reputation that would keep lots of younger non-catholic school kids away from the program and therefore take a significant hit to revenue. All for what?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That kid was clearly the most talented on that team. hands down.
I can think of at least 3 kids on that team that I would consider more talented. Doesn't matter though...move on. fl$ 2016 will be fine.
Nice try. But you're not fooling anyone particularly those of us who know him. Lighten up and take you smear campaign somewhere else.
Only saw the kid play once against Team 91 at Tri-State. He was by far the best player on the field that day. He had his mark on every goal and was all over the field.
This "kid" in question should be the best player on the field. He has an early 1997 birthday! What is that all about???? and he's not the only one with a 1997 birth date (must be a "Manhasset" thing! typical!!!
He has a late '97 birthday as do many of the players in this grade. Up until this year, he always played with the grade above and still excelled despite being the youngest player on the field. Most players who play up when they are young switch to playing with their grade the year before U-15.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He has a late '97 birthday as do many of the players in this grade. Up until this year, he always played with the grade above and still excelled despite being the youngest player on the field. Most players who play up when they are young switch to playing with their grade the year before U-15.
The kid has major academic problems and repeated a grade.
come on, leave the kid out of the discussion. Shame on you guys for bashing a 14 yr old.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
come on, leave the kid out of the discussion. Shame on you guys for bashing a 14 yr old.
We obviously are dealing with a demented forum troll who has no regard for this poor 13 yr. old boy. Back of the Cage should not encourage this type of behavior by posting these attacks specifically aimed at this poor kid and his father. Do the right thing and put a stop to this and remove any posts specifically attacking this boy...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We obviously are dealing with a demented forum troll who has no regard for this poor 13 yr. old boy. Back of the Cage should not encourage this type of behavior by posting these attacks specifically aimed at this poor kid and his father. Do the right thing and put a stop to this and remove any posts specifically attacking this boy...
I've got no stake in this, but have read about this all-star team the Express supposedly formed by poaching other teams' best players. My question is: did the club contact their existing parents to give their side of the story? Their response (or a lack therof) would be as telling about the Express and their morals as this supposed poaching.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We obviously are dealing with a demented forum troll who has no regard for this poor 13 yr. old boy. Back of the Cage should not encourage this type of behavior by posting these attacks specifically aimed at this poor kid and his father. Do the right thing and put a stop to this and remove any posts specifically attacking this boy...
I can name three or four by name after reading their posts. No need for real names.
I don't have a dog in this fight but from what I can tell Express did nothing wrong here...I'm sure all of the players on this year's Orange team will have a chance to tryout and play for the same team again. What's the big deal?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We obviously are dealing with a demented forum troll who has no regard for this poor 13 yr. old boy. Back of the Cage should not encourage this type of behavior by posting these attacks specifically aimed at this poor kid and his father. Do the right thing and put a stop to this and remove any posts specifically attacking this boy...
I can name three or four by name after reading their posts. No need for real names.
I'm 100% sure neither the Express nor any parent has done anything illegal in forming a new team. So, relax, nobody will ever remember two years from now what all the fuss was about. Don't like where it leaves your kid's team now? Get your own team together for next summer! Any problems with any individuals on the Cuda should also be addressed in person, not anonymously online.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't have a dog in this fight but from what I can tell Express did nothing wrong here...I'm sure all of the players on this year's Orange team will have a chance to tryout and play for the same team again. What's the big deal?
Let's see. The Express puts together their team for 2016. Parents pay good money for their sons. The team turns out to be lousy. So for the final tournament, some kids are kicked off in favor of some kids they poached who had already made/played for other teams.
Yeah, nothing slimy about that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't have a dog in this fight but from what I can tell Express did nothing wrong here...I'm sure all of the players on this year's Orange team will have a chance to tryout and play for the same team again. What's the big deal?
Let's see. The Express puts together their team for 2016. Parents pay good money for their sons. The team turns out to be lousy. So for the final tournament, some kids are kicked off in favor of some kids they poached who had already made/played for other teams.
Yeah, nothing slimy about that.
What?! Really?! I seriously doubt any kid was "kicked off" an Express team before the season was over. The last tournament on the Express 2016 schedule was the Jersey Shootout and I doubt any kids were told not to show up for that tournament. That would be a first for any lax club unless there were discipline problems.
I agree that anything that is said about a child that can be identified to a specific child should be removed. It is a sad day for us as adults to comment on a child who can be identified by his friends. In this day and age of computer and cyber bullying, I believe it should be the duty of the administrator to remove the posts. If god forbid this child sees this and acts out by hurting himself or others who will take the responsibility? Facebook and others have taken a stance on this so Mr administrator please do the right thing and remove the reference to the kid. Thanks for the consideration
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree that anything that is said about a child that can be identified to a specific child should be removed. It is a sad day for us as adults to comment on a child who can be identified by his friends. In this day and age of computer and cyber bullying, I believe it should be the duty of the administrator to remove the posts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If god forbid this child sees this and acts out by hurting himself or others who will take the responsibility? Facebook and others have taken a stance on this so Mr administrator please do the right thing and remove the reference to the kid. Thanks for the consideration
If you feel differently, please send us an e-mail with the details. A subsequent anonymous post will NOT get the job done. Your alternative is to become a registered user and report the details to us. Again, this is one of the reasons that membership on BOTC is recommended.
A word of caution to the person or persons posting disparaging information about a minor on the web. You should be aware of the laws regarding cyberbullying and cyberharassment. Here it is straight from New [lacrosse] State Penal Code. Sanctions range from misdemeanors to felonies. I would be very careful what I put out on the internet these days...
240.30 Aggravated harassment in the second degree.
Cyberbullying and Cyberharassment usually pertains to threatening or harassing email messages, instant messages, or to blog entries or websites dedicated solely to tormenting an individual. A person is guilty of aggravated harassment in the second degree when, with intent to harass, annoy, threaten or alarm another person, he or she:
1. Either (a) communicates with a person, anonymously or otherwise, by telephone, by telegraph, or by mail, or by transmitting or delivering any other form of written communication, in a manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm; or (b) causes a communication to be initiated by mechanical or electronic means or otherwise with a person,anonymously or otherwise, by telephone, by telegraph, or by mail, or by transmitting or delivering any other form of written communication, in a manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm
240.30 Aggravated harassment in the second degree.
Cyberbullying and Cyberharassment usually pertains to threatening or harassing email messages, instant messages, or to blog entries or websites dedicated solely to tormenting an individual. A person is guilty of aggravated harassment in the second degree when, with intent to harass, annoy, threaten or alarm another person, he or she:
1. Either (a) communicates with a person, anonymously or otherwise, by telephone, by telegraph, or by mail, or by transmitting or delivering any other form of written communication, in a manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm; or (b) causes a communication to be initiated by mechanical or electronic means or otherwise with a person,anonymously or otherwise, by telephone, by telegraph, or by mail, or by transmitting or delivering any other form of written communication, in a manner likely to cause annoyance or alarm
AAWW Man, leave it legalities (not reason) to stop the soap opera. I guess I'll get back to work now.
There is an email going to 2016 players. the subject title is "Barracudas" or something like that. This email implies that there is some training related to a tryout for the Barracudas. this is not the case. this is another scam by the express to get some more $$$ out of people while the "Barracuda" team is a hot topic.
There won't be any more players added to that team.
don't be fooled by it
There won't be any more players added to that team.
don't be fooled by it
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is an email going to 2016 players. the subject title is "Barracudas" or something like that. This email implies that there is some training related to a tryout for the Barracudas. this is not the case. this is another scam by the express to get some more $$$ out of people while the "Barracuda" team is a hot topic.
There won't be any more players added to that team.
don't be fooled by it
There won't be any more players added to that team.
don't be fooled by it
Did anyone actually get this email or is it an urban legend?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is an email going to 2016 players. the subject title is "Barracudas" or something like that. This email implies that there is some training related to a tryout for the Barracudas. this is not the case. this is another scam by the express to get some more $$$ out of people while the "Barracuda" team is a hot topic.
There won't be any more players added to that team.
don't be fooled by it
There won't be any more players added to that team.
don't be fooled by it
Did anyone actually get this email or is it an urban legend?
???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is an email going to 2016 players. the subject title is "Barracudas" or something like that. This email implies that there is some training related to a tryout for the Barracudas. this is not the case. this is another scam by the express to get some more $$$ out of people while the "Barracuda" team is a hot topic.
There won't be any more players added to that team.
don't be fooled by it
There won't be any more players added to that team.
don't be fooled by it
Did anyone actually get this email or is it an urban legend?
???
They only sent it to the best players. If you did not get one, well....
Anonymous = Incredulous
Man up and register, accountability matters.
Man up and register, accountability matters.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is an email going to 2016 players. the subject title is "Barracudas" or something like that. This email implies that there is some training related to a tryout for the Barracudas. this is not the case. this is another scam by the express to get some more $$$ out of people while the "Barracuda" team is a hot topic.
There won't be any more players added to that team.
don't be fooled by it
There won't be any more players added to that team.
don't be fooled by it
Did anyone actually get this email or is it an urban legend?
???
They only sent it to the best players. If you did not get one, well....
LOL. I doubt the email exists. If they have all the best players already, why the need for the email? The original post mentioned about using it as a revenue generator. I doubt the express is going to invite a bunch of kids to try out for a team they don't have a chance of making. They don't need the bad publicity. Besides, if a kid goes to the scheduled express tryouts and is good enought for the Barracudas and they want him on the team, they'll ask. Otherwise, the kid will go back to his normal team as the 2016 express orange and white teams are not comptetitive with the other programs on the Island.
Let's give credit when credit is due. LI Express puts quality teams on the field at every age level. The 2016 team took a beating and they are taking the steps to improve that team. People call it poaching but every year clubs lose and gain kids that way. The organization has the top teams (2012,2013,2014, 2015, 2017, 2018).
Express 2019 had a pretty good year as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let's give credit when credit is due. LI Express puts quality teams on the field at every age level. The 2016 team took a beating and they are taking the steps to improve that team. People call it poaching but every year clubs lose and gain kids that way. The organization has the top teams (2012,2013,2014, 2015, 2017, 2018).
The difference is that everyone else in this country doesn't do it in the middle of the season and steal players who have already committed/played for other clubs.
The Express have confirmed themselves as the dirt bags of lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express 2019 had a pretty good year as well.
You realize you are touting the accomplishments of 10 year old boys who are going into 5th grade, right?
You need to seek treatment.
The summer season was over! How can you say in the middle of the season? Ask yourself this question, what would you have said if your son was asked to play on that Barracuda team? Be honest!
The tournament was after the season. Get over it. No commitments were asked for or gotten above and beyond the one tournament. They did well at the tournament, will the boys/parents probably look to keep it together. Probably but who cares they are going into 8th grade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The summer season was over! How can you say in the middle of the season? Ask yourself this question, what would you have said if your son was asked to play on that Barracuda team? Be honest!
First of all, my son plays with his friends on a team much better than Express 2016 Orange. Our goal is for him to have fun with his buddies and get better.
Second, did they have an open tryout for this new team?
Third, did they invite all the Express Orange 2016 kids to go with them? No, some of them got kicked to the curb in favor of these 13 year old mercenaries. What kind of message does that send to all the Express kids/parents?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The summer season was over! How can you say in the middle of the season? Ask yourself this question, what would you have said if your son was asked to play on that Barracuda team? Be honest!
You seriously think the team was put together in a week? It was put together during the summer tournament season. My guess is at least 5 or 6 weeks to pull it all together. Lots of stuff going on behind the scenes I'm sure. Maybe even a practice or two during before the summer season ended. There was even talk here that one boy missed the last tournament with his regular team to play.
Let's face it, there's enough talent on LI to put together another team or two like this.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA my kid wasn't picked. Enough!!! move on with the poaching stories the crying, the endless BS. We all know the season was over. If they leave their old teams so be it. SO its less money in 1 programs pocket and more in another. The only way you could consider it poaching was if these travel teams were free. But since we all PAY TOP DOLLAR Shut up already. Try outs are next month.So you know what that means, have your son try out and if he is good enough he'll make it. Or don't and stay on here and cry or maybe you are a rival team director/owner?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA my kid wasn't picked. Enough!!! move on with the poaching stories the crying, the endless BS. We all know the season was over. If they leave their old teams so be it. SO its less money in 1 programs pocket and more in another. The only way you could consider it poaching was if these travel teams were free. But since we all PAY TOP DOLLAR Shut up already. Try outs are next month.So you know what that means, have your son try out and if he is good enough he'll make it. Or don't and stay on here and cry or maybe you are a rival team director/owner?
Why would I want my son involved with this mess? Maybe you should enlighten us with the true story of this team so all the speculation can be finally put to rest.
What's with all these anonymous drive bys. I don't want to know who you are, but not being involved with the express and the best ten year old laxers ever; By logging in would be more entertaining to keep track of which is knucklehead is which!
I do not get it. Every season I see kids move from one team to another. Every season i see new teams start up.The clubs do not own the rights to these kids so to say they are being poached is silly.We in the past tried to keep our town teams together but always had a few kids leave for travel teams thinking they were above the other kids on the team, usually a season later they were back playing with their friends.To be honest it seems its all about ego's on both sided of this one.
If what you want for your son is for him to have fun and learn you are in the wrong venue! Thats what PAL and the Nickerson beach league is for. Good luck, you need it.
It's unprecedented. If the Express had a tryout in September and put this team together, nobody would be saying anything. But as someone said, at least one kid abandonded his own team who still had a summer tournament yet to play.
Poaching players during the summer is an all-time low. As someone said, this was in the works all summer - whom to raid, how to put the team together. All because the Express 2016 Orange team was putrid. What happened to commitment and honor? I guess the Express doesn't know that is. No shock considering they are a for-profit that is among the most expensive in the area.
Poaching players during the summer is an all-time low. As someone said, this was in the works all summer - whom to raid, how to put the team together. All because the Express 2016 Orange team was putrid. What happened to commitment and honor? I guess the Express doesn't know that is. No shock considering they are a for-profit that is among the most expensive in the area.
I don't think the people who put this Barracuda team together fully realize what kind of person they got involved with at the LI EXpress. They are in for a rude awakening very soon when he takes complete control over it and they are all a non-factor in anything that the team does.
2016 Express Barracuda's
You guys have to calm down. Enjoy it while it lasts.
If your son is on the Cuda team, let your kid enjoy it.
If your not, find a team that's good for your son.
There are plenty of good kids in each age group.
Express is a money machine. They produce some very good teams but the majority of their teams are flat out awful.
Its also time for the to update their website. It says voted #1 club team in the country. That was from 3 or 4 years ago...
If your son is on the Cuda team, let your kid enjoy it.
If your not, find a team that's good for your son.
There are plenty of good kids in each age group.
Express is a money machine. They produce some very good teams but the majority of their teams are flat out awful.
Its also time for the to update their website. It says voted #1 club team in the country. That was from 3 or 4 years ago...
With so many teams to pick from for a kid to play with. What is the big deal. All I read about is everyone complaining of a good team. With all the teams popping up for profit I am sure this will be the rule not the exception in the coming years. I do know that the express did not put this team together. Maybe the outlaws, team 91, jesters, team long island, riptide, raiders, fl$, maveriks and junior lizards, should team up to field a team to compete at this level and each game is run by a different organization lets see if jonny would make this team.
Whoever was on the express Orange 2016 last year and was not picked for the Barracudas, then you are now obviously on the "B" team of the Express. Go find yourselves a good A team out there and be happy. You are crazy to give the Express any more of your money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whoever was on the express Orange 2016 last year and was not picked for the Barracudas, then you are now obviously on the "B" team of the Express. Go find yourselves a good A team out there and be happy. You are crazy to give the Express any more of your money.
I'm hoping this team of mercenaries stays together and plays a full slate of tournaments next summer. And then for the last one, I hope they poach some new players and dump some former "Baracuddas". LOL - that would be awesome. This program has no class or loyalty to anyone.
Still crying HUH go back to your program and build that great team! stop crying about 13 yr olds playing for a different program. Better yet start your own super program I am sure you are an excellent coach and player. You probably are a D1 caliber player that just didn't play in college cause well... u know. Your kid is the best, or could be the best on the team and politics got in the way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm hoping this team of mercenaries stays together and plays a full slate of tournaments next summer. And then for the last one, I hope they poach some new players and dump some former "Baracuddas". LOL - that would be awesome. This program has no class or loyalty to anyone.
Doesn't sound very fair to the kids. However you fell about this team, the boys are not the issue and shouldn't be dragged into this.
You know the Express did not put this together? If they did not then that logically means parents did. This kind of manipulation is worse. One parent who has a good lefty middie for example made sure there were not a lot those, this way playing time assured while getting other players to compliment their kid. This whole thing stinks.
Try out they need a lefty middie. my kid wears roller blades made for turf. he really gets around. When i move to NY (NEVER) I want to meet you idiots posting this crap. Why don't you try this, take your agenda your crying towel, and your toys and go play baseball (with a Tee)
No wonder your sons didn't get the call. What coach in his right mind would want to deal with you whining parents. Are you going to cry to the teacher that didn't give your son an A? the college coach who didn't recruit him? the girl who broke up with him, the employer who fired him? Get the picture. Grow up, move on an teach your children well so they can fend for themselves later in life.
I see the scumbags who run the Express have entered their mercenary team in the NPYLL Fall Fest. I'm sure the parents who paid top dollar to be part of the Express 2016 Orange really appreciate the loyalty of the Express leadership. Those guys really teach high morals.
Look, Express is Express. They are mostly concerned about there top team in every grade. Blue team as well, when they get into 9th grade and above. They care about the pictures on the web site... Not there to develope your kid. (you need to do that) They want super stars today! If your son isn't one, they'll find another one that is. It is, what it is. You either deal with it, or play on one of the other 20+ travel teams. Trust me, you will not change any minds!
What's your deal? Is it that your son wasn't ask to play on the team or do you just object to the concept of an "all-star" team. If it is the loyalty issue, you need a quick dose of reality. Each year kids try out to play for any of the top club teams. If you think that the Express is any different then any of the other top club teams you are sadly mistaken. They all hold tryouts and unfortunately they will all have to make decisions in reference to the weaker 4-5 players on each of their teams. This happens every year and not just in lacrosse. The only way they can continue to compete with the other top teams is to look to improve year to year.
No deal.
Do you not understand the concept of a business? Far different than the concept of a an "All Star team" With an all star team you pick your talent and play. With a business, you change the team during the season after people have paid. It's called bait and switch. An under handed business practice as old as dirt. No issues with tryouts, making teams or not making teams.
This is what happens when the lines between sport and for profit business blurr. Express was the only game in town for years. Now there is competition in the market. Express is just going to do whatever they need to do to protect the brand. More so, than other clubs.
Trying to explain to the person that called the Express people "scumbags". They aren't, they're just interested in doing what's best for thier business.
Sometimes people have trouble understanding reality.
Do you not understand the concept of a business? Far different than the concept of a an "All Star team" With an all star team you pick your talent and play. With a business, you change the team during the season after people have paid. It's called bait and switch. An under handed business practice as old as dirt. No issues with tryouts, making teams or not making teams.
This is what happens when the lines between sport and for profit business blurr. Express was the only game in town for years. Now there is competition in the market. Express is just going to do whatever they need to do to protect the brand. More so, than other clubs.
Trying to explain to the person that called the Express people "scumbags". They aren't, they're just interested in doing what's best for thier business.
Sometimes people have trouble understanding reality.
If the Express already has their "A" team set with the Barracudas, why would any player want to tryout for the Express if they have no shot at making the "A" team ?
Why waste your time if your an exceptional player? The orange team certainly won't be an A caliber team and that's the team you would end up on.
Find another place to play
Why waste your time if your an exceptional player? The orange team certainly won't be an A caliber team and that's the team you would end up on.
Find another place to play
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the Express already has their "A" team set with the Barracudas, why would any player want to tryout for the Express if they have no shot at making the "A" team ?
Why waste your time if your an exceptional player? The orange team certainly won't be an A caliber team and that's the team you would end up on.
Find another place to play
Why waste your time if your an exceptional player? The orange team certainly won't be an A caliber team and that's the team you would end up on.
Find another place to play
I wonder which club leader wrote this stupid statement. People will try anything to dissuade kids from trying out for the Express.
There is alot of complaining going around. It all stems from a kid making an elite lacrosse team. Go to the tryouts and watch. I gaurantee that the top kids will be barracuda players. If this is true why shouldn't they make the team and the others play on orange team. There are parents trying to push there kids onto this team thru the directors. Why should they carry your kid if he can't use his left hand. I have watched 2 of the 3 directors clinics in the last 2 weeks. There is not 1 kid that plays at the level the barracuda kids play at enough said
There are plenty of players out there who are better than some of the Barracuda kids. If they try out and are better, why shouldn't they be put on the Barracuda team instead of the Orange team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are plenty of players out there who are better than some of the Barracuda kids. If they try out and are better, why shouldn't they be put on the Barracuda team instead of the Orange team?
I doubt the tryouts will include the Barracuda team. They may add one or two players if they are exceptional but,it's a long shot.
You guys spend way too much time worrying about this team. They are a good team but they are not unbeatable. There is too much competition on the Island from the other clubs. The clubs that lost players will reload and you will soon be talking about another squad at this age group.
I agree
if they are better, than why do they have to go on the B team?
if they are better, than why do they have to go on the B team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree
if they are better, than why do they have to go on the B team?
if they are better, than why do they have to go on the B team?
Politics. Sometimes it's who you know.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are plenty of players out there who are better than some of the Barracuda kids. If they try out and are better, why shouldn't they be put on the Barracuda team instead of the Orange team?
I doubt the tryouts will include the Barracuda team. They may add one or two players if they are exceptional but,it's a long shot.
You guys spend way too much time worrying about this team. They are a good team but they are not unbeatable. There is too much competition on the Island from the other clubs. The clubs that lost players will reload and you will soon be talking about another squad at this age group.
Now, whether some other clubs are losing top players from their "A" squads to man both the Barracuda and Orange teams in parallel is another subject entirely; one which is driven by both financial and club recognition (competition) issues.
spoken like a true shill for the express
Originally Posted by Anonymous
spoken like a true shill for the express
Express doesn't pay BOTC that why you don't see any news on tryouts for them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express doesn't pay BOTC that why you don't see any news on tryouts for them.
Truth be told, BOTC has never been able to "hook up" with the Express. None the less, all evidence is that the Express run a quality program here on Long Island. BOTC believes that the Express program is trying to bring out the very best in Long Island lacrosse with a strong focus on the boys action.
As for tryout postings, the rules for tryouts have been well published for some time.
Thanks for posting.
160 kids at 2016 tryout today. Quite a few Raider, 91 and fl$ helmets.
Well well tryouts last night maybe 2 kids shined with the barracuda kids, For all you cridics express got a huge turn out but the talent that was there shows who ever put these kids together knew what he was doing
patting yourself on the back again eh
what's a cridic ? is that like a yute?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well well tryouts last night maybe 2 kids shined with the barracuda kids, For all you cridics express got a huge turn out but the talent that was there shows who ever put these kids together knew what he was doing
Ever notice how there's a direct correlation between idiotic posts and the number of grammatical/spelling mistakes?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
160 kids at 2016 tryout today. Quite a few Raider, 91 and fl$ helmets.
That's funny. Raiders are the only team I know of who are not holding tryouts for their 2016 team. I have to assume they already have commitments from the players.
Big turn out? Yes. Funny though, I did not see the cuda kids seperated from the rest. Did I miss something or do you just happen to know entire cuda team? Does the person who put the cuda team together know what they are doing? Yes, that's what happens when you take the best kids from every program and put them together
Kind of odd that the 'cuda team had to try out. Wonder if that means they aren't satisfied with the team or if several of the kids are not returning. Do the kids on the turtles have to try out?
CLASSIC!
Yes they do
No cudas did not have to tryout, nor do the turtles. The "clinics" and tryouts serve as a platform to fill in a spot or 2 for those teams. The rest of the players are then filtered down to the rest of the Express teams. Question though? How is the coaching for the other Express teams? In other words I'm sure there is a pecking order of coaching talent/ability. I can't imagine the cudas getting the mid to lower pecking order of coaching? Where does that leave the rest of Express teams?
Absolutely wrong in your comment about tryouts. Cudas DID tryout, each and everyone was there. Please get your facts correct before posting trash !!
The lower the team you're on, the worse the coaching and attention. Some teams last year didnt even have a coach in place until a day or two before the second tournament! (Don't get mad Express guys, its just a fact.)
As they get older, it's mostly all about St. Anthonys and some Chaminade kids. If you're not one of them, your kid had better be off the charts. Good luck!
As they get older, it's mostly all about St. Anthonys and some Chaminade kids. If you're not one of them, your kid had better be off the charts. Good luck!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Absolutely wrong in your comment about tryouts. Cudas DID tryout, each and everyone was there. Please get your facts correct before posting trash !!
All the cudas were not there. Unless they decided to move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Absolutely wrong in your comment about tryouts. Cudas DID tryout, each and everyone was there. Please get your facts correct before posting trash !!
WOW! I doubt they actually tried out. Too much money already invested in the team by the parents and the Express to have open try outs.
Not sure where in post it said cudas weren't there??? It says they did not have to tryout? Fact - cudas is invitation, don't beleive it? Just ask one. How come Express does not have the cuda team picture on its winners photo album this year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where in post it said cudas weren't there??? It says they did not have to tryout? Fact - cudas is invitation, don't beleive it? Just ask one. How come Express does not have the cuda team picture on its winners photo album this year?
The Express deserve all the bad press they are getting. Whoever heard of a club kicking its existing A team players to the curb in favor of a bunch of mercenaries? They are really teaching admirable life lessons over there.
Outlaws had 80 kids at try out Same time as express-which was posted after outlaws set there time. 2016 Black had every kid from last summer, but one at try out, They are very loyal to there kids. Having 2nd one this week at 430 at walt Whitman high school to complete 2 teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How come Express does not have the cuda team picture on its winners photo album this year?
Because they want to keep their 2016 non-cuda parents in the dark as long as possible so they don't move on.
Wasn't at the Outlaw tryout but one thing that I have noticed - you never see any West Islip kids at ANY club tryouts it seems. Anyone know what they are doing over there to get there kids to stay?
Great point!!
For the older H.S. kids, the case is they tend to play together in the summer. However, the recent trend for lower grades(8th grade and below)is some players are going to Express and Team 91. So much for staying with the team. Seeing this trend upsets me as a W.I. parent because I don't think we will be a stellar H.S.program in a few years. Still good and competitive, but other programs that have copied West Islip's stay together scheme such as Smithtown, Half Hollow Hills,Northport will be on par or better.Look at Three Village (Ward Melville) and Manhasset.They keep those kids together year round,both advanced and lesser skilled players. Unfortunately, some of our younger teams aren't taking advantage of all the summer tournaments right here on L.I.
There are many town teams that do not let their kids play travel teams (West Islip, Shoreham etc.). The coaches believe that keeping their kids together will make a better varsity team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the older H.S. kids, the case is they tend to play together in the summer. However, the recent trend for lower grades(8th grade and below)is some players are going to Express and Team 91. So much for staying with the team. Seeing this trend upsets me as a W.I. parent because I don't think we will be a stellar H.S.program in a few years. Still good and competitive, but other programs that have copied West Islip's stay together scheme such as Smithtown, Half Hollow Hills,Northport will be on par or better.Look at Three Village (Ward Melville) and Manhasset.They keep those kids together year round,both advanced and lesser skilled players. Unfortunately, some of our younger teams aren't taking advantage of all the summer tournaments right here on L.I.
That is great for the bigger programs, which all of them besides Manhasset are big schools. Most of the smaller schools don't have the commitment or the numbers to rely on the school teams. Those programs will benefit from the better kids playing with better players and better competition.
That is great for the bigger programs, which all of them besides Manhasset are big schools. Most of the smaller schools don't have the commitment or the numbers to rely on the school teams. Those programs will benefit from the better kids playing with better players and better competition.
There is no more Barracuda team. It's all Express Orange now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is no more Barracuda team. It's all Express Orange now.
??? They are scheduled to play a tournament in November.
Yep and they will go in as express orange. Express has taken over the team now and it no longer will be known as Barracudas.
The calls went out already for the Orange or "A" team. If you didn't get a call you are not on it.
Why would any parent give the Express their money when the Express has proven that they will drop your kid at any moment during the season? Just a matter of time before this sham of a team implodes.
That's funny, the 'cuda uniforms had express written all over them.
Why would they make the Cudas an A team instead of AA team if they were that good. From what I understand they already had an A & B team last year.
There is no more Barracudas. It's been abolished. It's all Express Orange now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would they make the Cudas an A team instead of AA team if they were that good. From what I understand they already had an A & B team last year.
I guess the cudas only exist in our imaginations from now on. LOL What a mess this turned out to be.
best team on long island
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep and they will go in as express orange. Express has taken over the team now and it no longer will be known as Barracudas.
Does anyone really know what really is going on ??? If you do I would sure like to hear from you. We were told at the tryouts that there would be an AA, A & B team for 2016 graduates. It would make sense to make the Barracudas the AA team if they are the super stars they are made out to be. Then have an A & B team like they had last year. Unless they are afraid to have them play U15 AA. Unfortunately every travel team has politics and their own agenda. If you actually check out the NYPPL site for the fall tournament that the so called non existent Barracudas are scheduled for, they are on the schedule as LI Express Barracudas U15 AA.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
best team on long island
You must be one of the parents of a Barracuda. You can not possibly believe that the 20 kids on this team are the only talented kids on Long Island.
express will have 2 aa teams and 1 b team thats it
Hey , they will have 1 AA Team and any other team will be B+ at Best, DO NOT LET THEM SELL YOU THAT THEY ARE ANY BETTER THAN THAT. If you Put your kid on a 2nd team and buy that they are a A team, Shame on You!
the express will have as many teams as people pay for, even if they have 23 kids on the team. you pay you play. the good catholics couldnt possibly refuse your charitable donation.
god bless. there will be a aaa, aa, a, a+, aaaa, etc team.
god bless. there will be a aaa, aa, a, a+, aaaa, etc team.
Were calls made for all of the 2016 teams? Or just the Orange team? Is this a fact? Do you have a kid on the Orange team?
Obviously they will have an AA, A and B team if there are indeed three teams - nobody has two AAs.
Based on their track record, stay away from this program if your son doesn't make the AA team. In fact, it's probably best to stay away from the Express. Period.
Whoever heard of submitting to the egos of a bunch of kids and coaches by giving them special names like "Tenacious Turtles" and "Barracudas"? What kind of message does that send to the rest of your program?
Based on their track record, stay away from this program if your son doesn't make the AA team. In fact, it's probably best to stay away from the Express. Period.
Whoever heard of submitting to the egos of a bunch of kids and coaches by giving them special names like "Tenacious Turtles" and "Barracudas"? What kind of message does that send to the rest of your program?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey , they will have 1 AA Team and any other team will be B+ at Best, DO NOT LET THEM SELL YOU THAT THEY ARE ANY BETTER THAN THAT. If you Put your kid on a 2nd team and buy that they are a A team, Shame on You!
Did you go to the tryouts and see what the talent was or are you just talking ? Was last years A team really a B team ? If the Barracudas are the AA team which most of those kids came from other travel teams then why would they not have another legit AA or A team ? I know for a fact that there were at least 20 kids at the tryouts from a fall league that was put together the same way the Barracudas were. Why wouldn't they be a real AA or A team ? They are a very talented group of kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the express will have as many teams as people pay for, even if they have 23 kids on the team. you pay you play. the good catholics couldnt possibly refuse your charitable donation.
god bless. there will be a aaa, aa, a, a+, aaaa, etc team.
god bless. there will be a aaa, aa, a, a+, aaaa, etc team.
All travel teams do the same thing. If there are enough kids they will find coaching and make a team. It is a business and it is that simple. As long as they put them in the correct division at tournaments it should not matter. The unfortunate thing is that most parents are not truthful to their kids about their abilities. Not every kid is going to be a super stud and if they want to play let them play.
i have an older boy at st anthonys, i graduated from st anthonys. can i get my new to lacrosse younger son on the orange team. answer is, depends on how much you donated this yr. some private leassons from the puppet master doesnt hurt either. just a bit of conflict of interest there. if i pay you 70 bucks an hour for lessons times 15 lessons can my kid play on the orange team. answer is, he may need more lessons.but yes he can be on the orange team so long as i have my AA team stocked with the baracuda boys.
KEEP PAYING KEEP PLAYING
KEEP PAYING KEEP PLAYING
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the express will have as many teams as people pay for, even if they have 23 kids on the team. you pay you play. the good catholics couldnt possibly refuse your charitable donation.
god bless. there will be a aaa, aa, a, a+, aaaa, etc team.
god bless. there will be a aaa, aa, a, a+, aaaa, etc team.
truer words were never spoken.
I believe only the Orange 2016 team got the call so far. I don't think anyone else will get the call until everyone commits to the orange team.
I have a son on the Orange call was made , email sent, and deposit date given
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I believe only the Orange 2016 team got the call so far. I don't think anyone else will get the call until everyone commits to the orange team.
I heard that 19 out of the 22 kids on the Orange (Cudas)team are going to St. Anthony's. It makes you think how this team was really put together before the tryouts. The Express obviously have their own agenda.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a son on the Orange call was made , email sent, and deposit date given
Is he going to St. Anthony's ???
You want to know what happened to the Barracudas, players and the parent organizers?
See post 3090
See post 3090
No he is not and less than half have spoken about sending there boys to St. Anthonys. It is hard to say any # are going since the entrance exam has not taken place. Don't believe all you hear
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No he is not and less than half have spoken about sending there boys to St. Anthonys. It is hard to say any # are going since the entrance exam has not taken place. Don't believe all you hear
Stop already. it is a catholic school feeder program! plain and simple. Unless of course your kid is off the charts, then they will use him to better the team. Bottom line is that if you are thinking of going to St. A's then they tell you "if you don't play here you probably won't have a good chance of playing at St. A's" (all BS! If you are great you will play anyway).If you don't plan on going to St. A's then "we are not like that, it dosn't matter we play the best kids". Either way they get your money! Hats off to them! It's America and people beleive what they want to believe! They are obviously very successful businessmen! They know that the fear of "not doing everything you possibly can for your kid" will pull you in. Most of the time they are right!Most people can't see through the BS! All the Express see is about $800-1k profit/kid. The American dream! Don't hate! It is what it is!At least you get your kid on the Under Armour Team! Its all about money and politics not who actually desrves it!It is a shame but it pays the bills!!!
i love jack an going to miss him an his hard work .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No he is not and less than half have spoken about sending there boys to St. Anthonys. It is hard to say any # are going since the entrance exam has not taken place. Don't believe all you hear
I heard from a parent of the orange team that 19 out of 22 told the express their kids would be going to St. Anthony's. It really doesn't matter because what the Express did was just take people's money for the tryouts. They knew thay had their AA team with the Barracudas and they had most of their A team with a group of kids from the Raiders. I am sure they filled the balance of their A team with last years Express kids and their B team as well. There was a lot of great talent at the tryouts that will not make any of the teams because of all of the politics that the Express is wrapped up in. I hope they can sleep at night.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You want to know what happened to the Barracudas, players and the parent organizers?
See post 3090
See post 3090
I read the post and you are absolutely correct. I have only been involved with this group for a short time and I can tell you it is only about money and St. Anthony's. They knew exactly how they were putting their 3 teams together before the tryouts.They just sucked everyone in and took their money. The sad thing is that any kid that was on the Express last year will end up on the B team. I know a kid that was on their AA team last year. They were originally going to send him to St. Anthony's and for what ever reason decided not to.The entry exam is in October (way before the summer tournaments start). He was never treated the same after that. That kid only faced off (because he was very good) and then he was taken off the field. That was the extent of his playing time. So who ever told the Express you were going to St. Anthony's that better be the case or you are history.I just can not believe the people that run this organization don't burst into flames when they walk into St. Anthony's.
Who is Jack?
and the program should be truthful about developmental players on a team with B players. it becomes very unfair to both kids when one has been playing for some time and can handle a stick, knows where to line up and doesnt think this is some kind of lacrosse play date. then the developmental kid, who really just made a donation to the express goes in the game, regardless of what level, and loses the game for the team. not what i want to pay thousands of dollars for and waste my time. tuition, travel expenses, hotels, etc.
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yes you are correct
wow express orange team now has an attack player from the white team . boy what 1500 dollars an a dream can do .so all you other 90 attack guys at the tryout thanks for the donation of 75 dollars.
has the white team been announced?
yes. But the superstar hills attack player is on orange
mr mi off
Yea $1,400 bucks and alot of tail-between-legs groveling.
Priceless.
Priceless.
wow i saw the cudas play SWR this weekend,wow soild d .good middies
Who was there attack it looked like they took some turtles kids. Anybody know who these kids are . Future duke players WOW
Who was there attack it looked like they took some turtles kids. Anybody know who these kids are . Future duke players WOW
yea but he was the best 91 attack
WOW! Delusional and pathetic parent ragging on kids.Really need to get a hold of yourself. No, I do not have a kid on Express and have not been involved with program.Just someone who found site looking for tryout info and found the reality that some parents are really sick.
Well said. You are all out of control. There is no reason to be talking about children the way you are. If you don't like a specific program then dont have your child play there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow i saw the cudas play SWR this weekend,wow soild d .good middies
Who was there attack it looked like they took some turtles kids. Anybody know who these kids are . Future duke players WOW
Who was there attack it looked like they took some turtles kids. Anybody know who these kids are . Future duke players WOW
If it was @ Farmingdale none of those kids are on the Cuda's. They are just a bunch of kids from different teams that wanted to play fall ball. There is a lot of talent on LI !!!!
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow i saw the cudas play SWR this weekend,wow soild d .good middies
Who was there attack it looked like they took some turtles kids. Anybody know who these kids are . Future duke players WOW
Who was there attack it looked like they took some turtles kids. Anybody know who these kids are . Future duke players WOW
If it was @ Farmingdale none of those kids are on the Cuda's. They are just a bunch of kids from different teams that wanted to play fall ball. There is a lot of talent on LI !!!!
SWR Played Northport-- Sounds like disgruntled parents crying again that their kid wasn't picked for the Cuda team. Maybe it's time to go away and stay on 91's board and whine
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow i saw the cudas play SWR this weekend,wow soild d .good middies
Who was there attack it looked like they took some turtles kids. Anybody know who these kids are . Future duke players WOW
Who was there attack it looked like they took some turtles kids. Anybody know who these kids are . Future duke players WOW
If it was @ Farmingdale none of those kids are on the Cuda's. They are just a bunch of kids from different teams that wanted to play fall ball. There is a lot of talent on LI !!!!
The cudas (at least the version that played in the summer) no longer exist. From everything being posted, the express is calling there top team "orange" again next year. If I have the facts correct, one of 91 dads wanted to put his version of a dream team together because his son wasn't getting sufficient playing time with 91 and wanted him to be showcased. He took the team to the express who added a few of their own kids. Whether or not the express did the right thing by accepting the offer is another matter since it's obvious that it took several weeks to put everything together during the spring/summer tournament schedule for both 91 and the express.
Even if the express still uses the cuda name, it will be a very different team next year as far the players are concerned. If they play at this same level remains to be seen. The express was weak last year at the 2016 level and they need to upgrade before the few good players they have started leaving for greener pastures elsewhere. You can't put a team into the U-15 championship that hasn't won anything in several years. Besides, this is exactly how the express built their 2015 orange team.
Also, I wish people would leave the boys out of the posts. The cudas or express has nothing to do with them as individuals.
Does anyone know if the Express has contacted 2016 kids who did not make the top team? And is the top team now called Orange vs the Cuda name?..Why couldnt they keep it?
If it was at Farmingdale than it was the Lax Pro team, very talented bunch of kids who are just playing together for the fall from what I understand
who was the dad
good team .should beat most 6th grade teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
good team .should beat most 6th grade teams
They're 8th graders
It's an 8th grade team, not a 6th grade team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who was the dad
Don't know. Just putting together what I got fror various posts here. I'm sure the powers to be @ 91 are well aware of the situation and what's going on.
Will someone please tell SWR and Northport that they are town teams and should break up and and do strictly club teams. really, who do they think they are trying to keep their kids together?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow i saw the cudas play SWR this weekend,wow soild d .good middies
Who was there attack it looked like they took some turtles kids. Anybody know who these kids are . Future duke players WOW
Who was there attack it looked like they took some turtles kids. Anybody know who these kids are . Future duke players WOW
If it was @ Farmingdale none of those kids are on the Cuda's. They are just a bunch of kids from different teams that wanted to play fall ball. There is a lot of talent on LI !!!!
SWR Played Northport-- Sounds like disgruntled parents crying again that their kid wasn't picked for the Cuda team. Maybe it's time to go away and stay on 91's board and whine
Like I said they are a bunch of kids from different teams not Northport. Some are from Comsewogue, Rocky Point, Northport, Smithtown etc. . The guy that put it together is from Northport. Honestly who cares about the Cuda's. It is just one team with talented players. There are a lot of talented players on LI and talented teams.
Trying to keep up with what has been said about the Express program. From what I've read, what they did is unprecedented. It's one thing to be a for-profit business. It's another to treat kids and families like dirt and toss them to the side when someone better comes along.
Forget this Barracudda name. From now on, let's refer to the Express as the "Poachers". More appropriate nickname, I think.
Forget this Barracudda name. From now on, let's refer to the Express as the "Poachers". More appropriate nickname, I think.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will someone please tell SWR and Northport that they are town teams and should break up and and do strictly club teams. really, who do they think they are trying to keep their kids together?
The team that was called Northport is really Lax Pro and the directors of the league put them on the schedule as Northport Lax Pro. They are not a town team, but a team much like the Cuda's. They are kids from several different travel teams that came together to only play for the fall. Some towm teams do very well against travel teams. It is a matter of opinion which is best to do town vs. travel.
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will someone please tell SWR and Northport that they are town teams and should break up and and do strictly club teams. really, who do they think they are trying to keep their kids together?
The team that was called Northport is really Lax Pro and the directors of the league put them on the schedule as Northport Lax Pro. They are not a town team, but a team much like the Cuda's. They are kids from several different travel teams that came together to only play for the fall. Some towm teams do very well against travel teams. It is a matter of opinion which is best to do town vs. travel.
I totally agree with you! Some town teams are full of talent, others have only a few kids with talent. It's hard for some kids to be challenged and to grow if they stay with a town team that does not have decent coaching or competitive playing. I'm all for loyalty, but my kid and his growth and development come first in my mind and if he's going to have a better experience playing with a travel club that that's the route I'll choose
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will someone please tell SWR and Northport that they are town teams and should break up and and do strictly club teams. really, who do they think they are trying to keep their kids together?
The team that was called Northport is really Lax Pro and the directors of the league put them on the schedule as Northport Lax Pro. They are not a town team, but a team much like the Cuda's. They are kids from several different travel teams that came together to only play for the fall. Some towm teams do very well against travel teams. It is a matter of opinion which is best to do town vs. travel.
I totally agree with you! Some town teams are full of talent, others have only a few kids with talent. It's hard for some kids to be challenged and to grow if they stay with a town team that does not have decent coaching or competitive playing. I'm all for loyalty, but my kid and his growth and development come first in my mind and if he's going to have a better experience playing with a travel club that that's the route I'll choose
Exactly !!! Whatever is best for your kid.
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will someone please tell SWR and Northport that they are town teams and should break up and and do strictly club teams. really, who do they think they are trying to keep their kids together?
The team that was called Northport is really Lax Pro and the directors of the league put them on the schedule as Northport Lax Pro. They are not a town team, but a team much like the Cuda's. They are kids from several different travel teams that came together to only play for the fall. Some towm teams do very well against travel teams. It is a matter of opinion which is best to do town vs. travel.
I totally agree with you! Some town teams are full of talent, others have only a few kids with talent. It's hard for some kids to be challenged and to grow if they stay with a town team that does not have decent coaching or competitive playing. I'm all for loyalty, but my kid and his growth and development come first in my mind and if he's going to have a better experience playing with a travel club that that's the route I'll choose
Exactly !!! Whatever is best for your kid.
FINALLY!!! Some people who seem to care more about their kids than about the "Cuda's"!! Let the kids play, let them learn, let them have FUN! Soon enough they will have to learn about the politics and BS of the grown up world!
The three starting attack players were from Northport, Gardencity and Comsewogue.Or the Express,The Raiders and Team Long Island.But all the boys are very good players from a lot of different Teams to play Fall ball on a Team called Lax Pro.
like i said the should beat most 6th grade teams
A lot of talent on Long Island? Completely agree! But I am fascinated by the whole club team thinking. It seems to me with more than one post about how good Long Island lacrosse is that teams like Comsewogue, Rocky Point, SWR, Smithtown, Three Villages, GC, etc would want to go the club route. Is the coaching so poor in these places that your kid needs to go to the club teams? In my experience it seems the club teams are more concerned about winning tournaments and having a large photo album on website then they are about coaching. If you are able to assemble really good kids, chances are you will do well. You could make the case that the coaching is better at the town team level as they do not have as much talent and the coach is able to find a way to be competitive and have fun with what he has. Anyway, this was the way back in the 70's, 80's (as I date myself) and this way did not hurt any recruitment of players. With technology today if your kid is good enough he will be found. The HS coach believe it or not is still the go to person when a school needs to know about a player
Originally Posted by Anonymous
like i said the should beat most 6th grade teams
you obviously have a problem with this team...why? They are not playing 6th graders, they are playing other 8th grade teams. They are a talented group of boys. Maybe you're pissed off because you're kid wasn't asked to play with them???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A lot of talent on Long Island? Completely agree! But I am fascinated by the whole club team thinking. It seems to me with more than one post about how good Long Island lacrosse is that teams like Comsewogue, Rocky Point, SWR, Smithtown, Three Villages, GC, etc would want to go the club route. Is the coaching so poor in these places that your kid needs to go to the club teams? In my experience it seems the club teams are more concerned about winning tournaments and having a large photo album on website then they are about coaching. If you are able to assemble really good kids, chances are you will do well. You could make the case that the coaching is better at the town team level as they do not have as much talent and the coach is able to find a way to be competitive and have fun with what he has. Anyway, this was the way back in the 70's, 80's (as I date myself) and this way did not hurt any recruitment of players. With technology today if your kid is good enough he will be found. The HS coach believe it or not is still the go to person when a school needs to know about a player
Completely agree that with today's technology a kid will be found if he's good enough. In my opinion there is much more competitiveness when playing with a club team, plus a lot of the school teams do not travel so the kids end up playing the same teams over and over again. Besides, every single one of the kids also plays for their school on their junior high and high school teams. So the high school coach is still going to know about the kids and their talent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A lot of talent on Long Island? Completely agree! But I am fascinated by the whole club team thinking. It seems to me with more than one post about how good Long Island lacrosse is that teams like Comsewogue, Rocky Point, SWR, Smithtown, Three Villages, GC, etc would want to go the club route. Is the coaching so poor in these places that your kid needs to go to the club teams? In my experience it seems the club teams are more concerned about winning tournaments and having a large photo album on website then they are about coaching. If you are able to assemble really good kids, chances are you will do well. You could make the case that the coaching is better at the town team level as they do not have as much talent and the coach is able to find a way to be competitive and have fun with what he has. Anyway, this was the way back in the 70's, 80's (as I date myself) and this way did not hurt any recruitment of players. With technology today if your kid is good enough he will be found. The HS coach believe it or not is still the go to person when a school needs to know about a player
I agree with what you are saying except that there are negatives to playing for your town only, the biggest draw back is that in most cases you do not get unbiased volunteers or paid unbiased coaches, you get fathers and those fathers either have agendas or subconsciously worry about there own kid first and the rest of the kids second, travel is a lot of money but at least you get the feeling that everybody paid the same and the coaches have no agendas (hopefully) and if you are not happy you can move on to another travel team it is not so easy when the town coach/parent and your kid play the same position, ect. $1,500 for the summer seems a lot cheaper then moving.
91 is ready to paly
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A lot of talent on Long Island? Completely agree! But I am fascinated by the whole club team thinking. It seems to me with more than one post about how good Long Island lacrosse is that teams like Comsewogue, Rocky Point, SWR, Smithtown, Three Villages, GC, etc would want to go the club route. Is the coaching so poor in these places that your kid needs to go to the club teams? In my experience it seems the club teams are more concerned about winning tournaments and having a large photo album on website then they are about coaching. If you are able to assemble really good kids, chances are you will do well. You could make the case that the coaching is better at the town team level as they do not have as much talent and the coach is able to find a way to be competitive and have fun with what he has. Anyway, this was the way back in the 70's, 80's (as I date myself) and this way did not hurt any recruitment of players. With technology today if your kid is good enough he will be found. The HS coach believe it or not is still the go to person when a school needs to know about a player
Unfortunately some of the towns do not have a large pool of kids to choose from to form a town travel team. The other issues are commiting to travel or the expense of traveling. I have spoken to many parents and they can not or will not travel for these reasons as well as they have other children to think about. I only have one son so I try to do everything that he wants to do as long as nothing conflicts. My son played for the 7th/8th grade town team and the JV town team that played in local summer leagues. He also played on a travel team. He is now playing in the fall league with Lax Pro. I can see the difference in his game from playing with other kids as well as from learning from different coaches.
I honestly believe that he had the most competition playing on the travel team and now Lax Pro. He also will have great memories traveling and playing with the travel team as well as creating new friendships. I guess the bottom line is you have to do what is good for your kid and what he wants to do. At this age they can make smart choices.
Three best attack i have seen on the field .Must better than any of the jesters
Originally Posted by Anonymous
like i said the should beat most 6th grade teams
What's the matter your kid didn't make any team ??????
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
like i said the should beat most 6th grade teams
What's the matter your kid didn't make any team ??????
Obviously he didn't make any team (the bitterness is very apparent) ...but it doesn't matter... it all gets proved on THE FIELD not on the discussion board! The stupid part is that it's the parents that make such a big deal about who their kids play with... if you ask the kids, they'll just tell you that they want to PLAY
So true! Whenever my son is asked to play he never asks WHO is playing or how good they are, he usually just says sure! Naturally he want to play on a competetive team and wants to win games but mostly he enjoys playing and the camraderie that goes along with it. He has played on good teams and on some real stinkers but has made a lot friends and had a lot of fun and learned a lot along the way which is all that really matters.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So true! Whenever my son is asked to play he never asks WHO is playing or how good they are, he usually just says sure! Naturally he want to play on a competetive team and wants to win games but mostly he enjoys playing and the camraderie that goes along with it. He has played on good teams and on some real stinkers but has made a lot friends and had a lot of fun and learned a lot along the way which is all that really matters.
AMEN!
I couldn't agree more. Travel teams also give you a choice of playing at different levels of competition. For example, if your son is not the best player in town, chances are he doesn't play much for his town team. There are travel teams that are geared more for the developing players. The only way to get better is to play.
Conversely, if your son in one of the better players, his development can be stalled playing for a town team if all the other players are not at his level. This type of player should play on the best possible team with players of similar ability. As was mentioned previously, the travel team concept also offers diversity of coaching, training and playing with and against players from other towns.
Name any sport (basketball, baseball, soccer etc..) The players who further develop their games do so playing on travel teams. Not to mention, kids who play on travel teams establish many more friendships than those that choose to stay home.
Conversely, if your son in one of the better players, his development can be stalled playing for a town team if all the other players are not at his level. This type of player should play on the best possible team with players of similar ability. As was mentioned previously, the travel team concept also offers diversity of coaching, training and playing with and against players from other towns.
Name any sport (basketball, baseball, soccer etc..) The players who further develop their games do so playing on travel teams. Not to mention, kids who play on travel teams establish many more friendships than those that choose to stay home.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 is ready to paly
How can they be ready when they haven't picked their teams ? Don't they have the 2nd tryout this weekend for 2016 ?
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 is ready to paly
How can they be ready when they haven't picked their teams ? Don't they have the 2nd tryout this weekend for 2016 ?
2nd tryout is this coming weekend and decisions are supposed to be made early next week...someone know something they're not telling us??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 is ready to paly
How can they be ready when they haven't picked their teams ? Don't they have the 2nd tryout this weekend for 2016 ?
2nd tryout is this coming weekend and decisions are supposed to be made early next week...someone know something they're not telling us??
I doubt it. Sounds like a kid posting.
I do not know if anyone in here was there last Saturday, the only reason for another tryout is just incase another elite couldn't make it the week before. Unless they are adding another team I would say they have picked the kids they need. The kids there last week were phenominal. I certainly could be wrong, just my opinion.
all the good kid went to the stampede
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I do not know if anyone in here was there last Saturday, the only reason for another tryout is just incase another elite couldn't make it the week before. Unless they are adding another team I would say they have picked the kids they need. The kids there last week were phenominal. I certainly could be wrong, just my opinion.
Several kids made the teams last year who came from the 2nd tryout. I know there are several kids going this weekend who should make the top teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 is ready to paly
How can they be ready when they haven't picked their teams ? Don't they have the 2nd tryout this weekend for 2016 ?
2nd tryout is this coming weekend and decisions are supposed to be made early next week...someone know something they're not telling us??
I doubt it. Sounds like a kid posting.
The person posted "91 is ready to play" and it sounded like they either knew something or they were trying to boast. Obviously the only people that know anything at this point are the directors. Did you get an e-mail telling you that your kid was on the team ? Any team for 91 ? I can tell you that they are trying to put a AA team together to play against the Express. By the way I am not a kid.
i`m on orange team
What's the matter your kid didn't make any team ??????
Obviously he didn't make any team (the bitterness is very apparent) ...but it doesn't matter... it all gets proved on THE FIELD not on the discussion board! The stupid part is that it's the parents that make such a big deal about who their kids play with... if you ask the kids, they'll just tell you that they want to PLAY
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
like i said the should beat most 6th grade teams
What's the matter your kid didn't make any team ??????
Obviously he didn't make any team (the bitterness is very apparent) ...but it doesn't matter... it all gets proved on THE FIELD not on the discussion board! The stupid part is that it's the parents that make such a big deal about who their kids play with... if you ask the kids, they'll just tell you that they want to PLAY
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i`m on orange team
What's the matter your kid didn't make any team ??????
Obviously he didn't make any team (the bitterness is very apparent) ...but it doesn't matter... it all gets proved on THE FIELD not on the discussion board! The stupid part is that it's the parents that make such a big deal about who their kids play with... if you ask the kids, they'll just tell you that they want to PLAY
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Laxlives
Originally Posted by Anonymous
like i said the should beat most 6th grade teams
What's the matter your kid didn't make any team ??????
Obviously he didn't make any team (the bitterness is very apparent) ...but it doesn't matter... it all gets proved on THE FIELD not on the discussion board! The stupid part is that it's the parents that make such a big deal about who their kids play with... if you ask the kids, they'll just tell you that they want to PLAY
I knew it had to be a kid writing this.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I knew it had to be a kid writing this.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I knew it had to be a kid writing this.
I am not an "IT" guy, but I wonder how your research tracing would indicate that the posts are coming from adults when most of these posts are from anonymous writers ? The bottom line is there is a lot of good talent on LI and we should all stop bad mouthing teams. No one ever said that the orange team (Cuda's) was an untalented team. I believe all of the posts were about how this team was handled in the recruitment process or how talented they were. The Lax Pro team is also very talented and obviously talented enough that they were thought to be the Cuda's. If the ("they could beat most 6th grade teams") poster wasn't a kid then I really feel bad for him !!!! Grow up !!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am not an "IT" guy, but I wonder how your research tracing would indicate that the posts are coming from adults when most of these posts are from anonymous writers ?
what a sad story, parents using corporate computers during work time to post about youth lax. i love lax, but grow up and get productive, you will be writing a check for your kids college like 99.9% of us, no matter what any director is telling you about your 13 yr old who matured before the majority of kids his age.
It's funny how people try and bad mouth other teams, then when it's their turn to play them they get embarrassed by that team!
outlaws are ready
express 2016 white team looks good. goalies are the real deal
Ready to cry?
outlaw for life
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ready to cry?
So are the Long Island Express Barracuddas/Poachers staying together, or was it a one time deal? If the guys from Baltimore and DC put together a similar All-Star team poached from the top clubs, that team would destroy the Barracuddas/Poachers.
Any truth to the rumor that Express scheduled practice for both of their 2016 teams at the same time 91 was having tryouts the last two weekends so the boys couldnt try out for 91?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So are the Long Island Express Barracuddas/Poachers staying together, or was it a one time deal? If the guys from Baltimore and DC put together a similar All-Star team poached from the top clubs, that team would destroy the Barracuddas/Poachers.
Cudas are done. They were two men's view of an allstar team. Not a true all star team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So are the Long Island Express Barracuddas/Poachers staying together, or was it a one time deal? If the guys from Baltimore and DC put together a similar All-Star team poached from the top clubs, that team would destroy the Barracuddas/Poachers.
Cudas are done. They were two men's view of an allstar team. Not a true all star team.
they did pretty well in baltimore, so the two men must be good talent evaluators
Funny you guys can not get over this team. For the record the barracudas of old are the 2016 orange they have even added a few more to make the team better. Now express second team has a lot of raiders kids and they also will be strong. Good luck to teams who take either team lightly. These teams will be playing tournaments in the fall go see for yourself
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny you guys can not get over this team. For the record the barracudas of old are the 2016 orange they have even added a few more to make the team better. Now express second team has a lot of raiders kids and they also will be strong. Good luck to teams who take either team lightly. These teams will be playing tournaments in the fall go see for yourself
I heard the 2016 Raiders were going else where. If it's true, it will make the remaining teams stronger and we should be seeing some excellent games at this age for the next year. BTW, how many kids from the summer 'cudas are on the express orange team?
I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the fall tournaments yet. Many of the boys play football so I don't think most of the teams will be at full strength until the winter or spring season starts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny you guys can not get over this team. For the record the barracudas of old are the 2016 orange they have even added a few more to make the team better.
Not true. Several of the boys are not going to be playing for the express. How any of the teams will do will be detemrined soon enough.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny you guys can not get over this team. For the record the barracudas of old are the 2016 orange they have even added a few more to make the team better.
Not true. Several of the boys are not going to be playing for the express. How any of the teams will do will be detemrined soon enough.
"attack log" ??? What's the secret meaning or is it a typo?
Any truth to the rumour that Coach Mcmanus Express Orange 2017 is out? If true wish I knew BEFORE I paid.
By this time everyone should know the deal with these travel teams. The better Teams for each organization are set except for a few spots. Certain players are recruited and told to "tryout" for the sake of appearing that the tryouts are legit. All other players "trying out" are there to fill the "lesser" teams that the organizations want to field. The "lesser" teams are known as the organizations "money makers". If you go in un-informed shame on you. These large organizations do not provide for the "lesser" teams as they do for their "elite" teams. If you dont like the way these teams do things don't complain, take your money and players to smaller organizations and build them up and compete. Turtles, barracudas, 91 whatever, get real. Good players get noticed flashy uniforms and the other nonesense is just that...Nonsense
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any truth to the rumour that Coach Mcmanus Express Orange 2017 is out? If true wish I knew BEFORE I paid.
I doubt he is out, the only thing I heard was for the 2017 teams is that there are now 2 "A Teams" not including the turtles and that they will not be using colors.
Totally agree that that Express 2017 age will have 3 very strong teams in that age. My buddy was at their tryouts for 2017 said talent pool was massive! I strongly DOUBT McManess is out. We know two separate families that are on McManess team this year and they been practicing already and are very happy.
I was at the 2017 tryouts, talent was very impressive. If they want to have 2 or 3 very competative teams would not be a problem from the 170 plus kids that were there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By this time everyone should know the deal with these travel teams. The better Teams for each organization are set except for a few spots. Certain players are recruited and told to "tryout" for the sake of appearing that the tryouts are legit. All other players "trying out" are there to fill the "lesser" teams that the organizations want to field. The "lesser" teams are known as the organizations "money makers". If you go in un-informed shame on you. These large organizations do not provide for the "lesser" teams as they do for their "elite" teams. If you dont like the way these teams do things don't complain, take your money and players to smaller organizations and build them up and compete. Turtles, barracudas, 91 whatever, get real. Good players get noticed flashy uniforms and the other nonesense is just that...Nonsense
my son was not recruited by the express and went to the tryout to see where he fits, this was his first time trying out for any team, nobody asked us to come and certainly no guarantees, he had a very strong tryout and was picked for the orange team - no complaints here, he is an OK player but certainly not an elite recruited player and we did not know any evaluators. so for at least one player is seemed pretty fair to us.
I guess you didn't read the previous posts. There are no "colors" or whatever they are called. Only time will tell if all of these A teams will be any good. Good luck and pay promptly.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess you didn't read the previous posts. There are no "colors" or whatever they are called. Only time will tell if all of these A teams will be any good. Good luck and pay promptly.
I guess you didn't read the previous post. There ARE colors according the e-mail we received saying congratulations on making the ORANGE team - and that really wasn't the point of the post,The point was it is possible to get a fair shot even an unknown player with no "connections"
My son was invited to join one of the 2017 Teams and there were no colors attached to the invite.
Looks like there will be two very strong teams at the 2017 Express age group (not counting the Turtles). The talent at the tryout was massive. I think they are actually making a third team as well, probably be a "B" team. To this point the teams dont have colors or a name asd yet, i think they are still trying to decide how to deal with that. In any event should be a great year for the LI Express 2017 age group.
who cares! the kids don't! It is crazy . parents wanting to ,ake themselves feel better about their kid making the 3rd team. you don't need to . let your kid play and be happy. No need to justify the status of the third team. this whole lax cult thing is getting SCARY. If you want to spend $1500 its ok, its your money!
I couldn't agree more. It doesn't matter what team your son is on. If the talent he's playing against is as good or better than him, then he's going to improve. The goal is to allow your son to grow and develope as a player. Which is better? Having your son on one of these super teams, where he plays 30% percent of the time and watches 70% of the time? Or be on a team that may not win all the tournaments, but you son plays a lot against tough competition. He will get better playing more, against tough competition.
Believe me, if your son is not one of the starting 10 with one of these top teams (AA or Elite), he's not going to play that much. It is not pay for play, it's win at all cost. The cost to you is your $1500, and the cost to your son will be extreme frustration.
Believe me, if your son is not one of the starting 10 with one of these top teams (AA or Elite), he's not going to play that much. It is not pay for play, it's win at all cost. The cost to you is your $1500, and the cost to your son will be extreme frustration.
Can understand why girls want to leave the Express...buy into the program and one girl because of her mother gets all the credit. Leave now while you can because it doesn't get any better!
Agree 1000%
How much does it cost to play for the express?
Can anyone tell me the exact figure?
I can't find it on the express website. I find that a little strange.
Can anyone tell me the exact figure?
I can't find it on the express website. I find that a little strange.
When will the 2015 boys teams be announced?
Originally Posted by laxfan14
How much does it cost to play for the express?
Can anyone tell me the exact figure?
I can't find it on the express website. I find that a little strange.
Can anyone tell me the exact figure?
I can't find it on the express website. I find that a little strange.
While BOTC would welcome Express participation, we will need to depend on other BOTC community members to answer your questions. Sorry.
Originally Posted by laxfan14
How much does it cost to play for the express?
Can anyone tell me the exact figure?
I can't find it on the express website. I find that a little strange.
Can anyone tell me the exact figure?
I can't find it on the express website. I find that a little strange.
If you are asking about the cost of girls program, the honest answer is too much. The Express cares about the boys and the girls are an after thought.
Originally Posted by laxfan14
How much does it cost to play for the express?
Can anyone tell me the exact figure?
I can't find it on the express website. I find that a little strange.
Can anyone tell me the exact figure?
I can't find it on the express website. I find that a little strange.
only know answer to one boys team, not sure if they are all the same $1550 for 5 summer tourny's, practices and uniforms no equipment or bag
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by laxfan14
How much does it cost to play for the express?
Can anyone tell me the exact figure?
I can't find it on the express website. I find that a little strange.
Can anyone tell me the exact figure?
I can't find it on the express website. I find that a little strange.
only know answer to one boys team, not sure if they are all the same $1550 for 5 summer tourny's, practices and uniforms no equipment or bag
FYI- ALL the boys teams where given Express equiptment bags last season (a large high quality bag).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When will the 2015 boys teams be announced?
You should ask them on their twitter page. A Dad on my buddies son(I think it was a 5th grade team)Express team asked a question via twitter about who was coaching that team, I heard his question was answered quickly on the twitter page.
Not that it is a big deal but do you know if most players(I mean their parents) end up buying the Express helmet or do they play with their town team helmets?
Up to the individual. directors have no preference with 2016 team my son is on. Dont't buy the helmet just to fit in...not worth having another helmet
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Up to the individual. directors have no preference with 2016 team my son is on. Dont't buy the helmet just to fit in...not worth having another helmet
That's what I thought. Thanks!
1350.00 last year for the girls why you need to know ?
Why you need to know could be one of the dumbest questions...
Before I sign up or pay for a product I like to know how much things cost.
I am going to guess that they are jacking up the price by at least $200.00 that's why they are being so shady.
Anyone else want to take a stab at the new price.
Anyone that sent in a deposit please let me know how much it is for the Boys or Girls... That's if you know, think about it, it's wrong what they are doing... Shame on us for letting them get away with it....
Before I sign up or pay for a product I like to know how much things cost.
I am going to guess that they are jacking up the price by at least $200.00 that's why they are being so shady.
Anyone else want to take a stab at the new price.
Anyone that sent in a deposit please let me know how much it is for the Boys or Girls... That's if you know, think about it, it's wrong what they are doing... Shame on us for letting them get away with it....
Did your daughter make the team ? What year is she did they even send out email to kids that made it ?
No. I have a son that is in the program for the last few years.
Originally Posted by laxfan14
Why you need to know could be one of the dumbest questions...
Before I sign up or pay for a product I like to know how much things cost.
I am going to guess that they are jacking up the price by at least $200.00 that's why they are being so shady.
Anyone else want to take a stab at the new price.
Anyone that sent in a deposit please let me know how much it is for the Boys or Girls... That's if you know, think about it, it's wrong what they are doing... Shame on us for letting them get away with it....
Before I sign up or pay for a product I like to know how much things cost.
I am going to guess that they are jacking up the price by at least $200.00 that's why they are being so shady.
Anyone else want to take a stab at the new price.
Anyone that sent in a deposit please let me know how much it is for the Boys or Girls... That's if you know, think about it, it's wrong what they are doing... Shame on us for letting them get away with it....
Is Express taking deposits without disclosing the full price? I don't understand how that could they could do this, if it is happening. Most importantly, I don't understand how parents are making deposits without knowing the full price.
For all the barracuda non believers now express orange they played yesterday at hofstra fall tournament. They went 4 and 0 with 68 goals for 0 goals against. Since they have been together they are 9 and 0 with 131 goals for 10 against and 7 shutouts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all the barracuda non believers now express orange they played yesterday at hofstra fall tournament. They went 4 and 0 with 68 goals for 0 goals against. Since they have been together they are 9 and 0 with 131 goals for 10 against and 7 shutouts.
Blue and Gold Fall Youth Tournament (Adobe Format)
In Grades 5/6, you had three Express teams, Pride, Brotherhood, two Head Heart Hustle groups, Be the Best and True Player.
In Grades 7/8, two Pride sides, Express, T-Birds, True Player, Madlaxers, Be the Best, GC Maroon, Brotherhood, HHH, Team 24/7.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all the barracuda non believers now express orange they played yesterday at hofstra fall tournament. They went 4 and 0 with 68 goals for 0 goals against. Since they have been together they are 9 and 0 with 131 goals for 10 against and 7 shutouts.
The Express team that played yesterday and the barracuda team team that played over the summer are two different teams. To say they are 9-0 is ridiculous. When the Orange team starts to play some of the better team on the island we'll see if they are as good as advertised. For now, it's just alot of hot air.
Wow that sounds like a lot of fun, an average score of 17-0 you must have been on the edge of your folding chair all day! I'm sure your nerves were causing your hands to shake so much your beverage spilled from your red cup and that excitement lead to a sleepless night and an early morning post.
Must be great coaching, I'm sure they really enjoyed it and the kids got much better.
Not sure why you need to worry about the non believers. I'm pretty sure most people believe that a lot of very good players are on that team and that they should really beat the heck out of most teams they play.
I'm sure you see it as validation that you really picked the right summer team for your little boy, I see it as boring.
Must be great coaching, I'm sure they really enjoyed it and the kids got much better.
Not sure why you need to worry about the non believers. I'm pretty sure most people believe that a lot of very good players are on that team and that they should really beat the heck out of most teams they play.
I'm sure you see it as validation that you really picked the right summer team for your little boy, I see it as boring.
i always believed you learn more about yourself in defeat than victory.
lets just sign this entire team up to be the starting line up at syracuse for the spring 2017 year and crown them national champs 17,18,19 and 2020.
oh wait, more 8th graders are going to grow and develop. then we will see how good these players are. enjoy it now. these kids will end up sounding like al bundy. 5 touchdowns in one game, polk high class of 72.
lets just sign this entire team up to be the starting line up at syracuse for the spring 2017 year and crown them national champs 17,18,19 and 2020.
oh wait, more 8th graders are going to grow and develop. then we will see how good these players are. enjoy it now. these kids will end up sounding like al bundy. 5 touchdowns in one game, polk high class of 72.
Why do you hate these 13 year old boys so much? What have they ever done to you?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all the barracuda non believers now express orange they played yesterday at hofstra fall tournament. They went 4 and 0 with 68 goals for 0 goals against. Since they have been together they are 9 and 0 with 131 goals for 10 against and 7 shutouts.
Good job. Congrats to the kids on the team. Pathetic post by parent or coach.
What teams did they play at Hofstra??
91 had this tournament on their fall schedule that was on their website then they took it down and they were not there. I was looking forward to the competition. What happened?
Originally Posted by Uncle Johns band
What teams did they play at Hofstra??
Blue and Gold Fall Youth Tournament (Adobe Format)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why do you hate these 13 year old boys so much? What have they ever done to you?
Nobody has a problems with the kids. I think a parent feels the need to justify himself and his actions from last year. No need to worry, as soon as the express loose, he will be trying to put another team together for next year.
Is this thread about the Express or a forum for your personal vandettas? Its sad that you are making fun of children. You really need to grow up!
My son asked me to put this post out yesterday to watch your responses. You guys are pathetic. It was not fun watching the tournament they have 2 more with hopefully better competition. The boys just want to be respected win or lose. By the way all but 3 boys from the barracudas are on this team and the other three we wish only the best. They are great kids with great parents. If you can not respect their accomplishments don't bash them here. 95 percent of these boys make every practice and every game even with football going on. They are commited
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow that sounds like a lot of fun, an average score of 17-0 you must have been on the edge of your folding chair all day! I'm sure your nerves were causing your hands to shake so much your beverage spilled from your red cup and that excitement lead to a sleepless night and an early morning post.
Must be great coaching, I'm sure they really enjoyed it and the kids got much better.
Not sure why you need to worry about the non believers. I'm pretty sure most people believe that a lot of very good players are on that team and that they should really beat the heck out of most teams they play.
I'm sure you see it as validation that you really picked the right summer team for your little boy, I see it as boring.
Must be great coaching, I'm sure they really enjoyed it and the kids got much better.
Not sure why you need to worry about the non believers. I'm pretty sure most people believe that a lot of very good players are on that team and that they should really beat the heck out of most teams they play.
I'm sure you see it as validation that you really picked the right summer team for your little boy, I see it as boring.
My son played in a tournament last Monday @ Dowling and they won all 3 games. The first game was 30 to 2, 2nd game was 13 to 6 and the last game was 20 plus to 6 (stopped counting). The coach tried to slow it down by switching the kids to different positions and honestly that is the only reason the other teams scored. My son was disappointed that the competition was not better. I am not saying this to brag, but sometimes it is the luck of the draw @ these tournaments. We also play in the Farmingdale league and we have had great competition winning by only 1 goal. Those are they games your kid learns from, not winning by 17 goals.
I have no horse in this race but just seeing all these comments makes me think that if the 2016 Orange is not finding any competition in the grade, they should challenge themselves against the 2015 Orange in a scrimmage or something. Would be a good test to see where they really are or if the grade is just not that deep beyond the Express. I think the Turtles (2017) usually try to play up so why not this team? Really, just a thought...not trying to be antagonistic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son asked me to put this post out yesterday to watch your responses. You guys are pathetic. It was not fun watching the tournament they have 2 more with hopefully better competition. The boys just want to be respected win or lose. By the way all but 3 boys from the barracudas are on this team and the other three we wish only the best. They are great kids with great parents. If you can not respect their accomplishments don't bash them here. 95 percent of these boys make every practice and every game even with football going on. They are commited
My son is not on this team and he never tried to be. He is happy where he is and thats all that counts. I think that people are making a big deal about the way the team was put together. I for one could care less and believe that most of the travel teams try to recruit kids from other travel teams. Why else would you get e-mails from every travel team telling you about their tryouts almost everyday. My son has attended many camps and someone is always trying to recruit him for their team. When coaches see talent it is natural for them to want them on their team.
I say good luck to this team and to all the other teams out there for the upcoming summer season. Just let them play and stop the crying !!!!
well said. I wish this team the best and hope I get to watch them play one day. A friend of mine has a son who plays on this team and I know for a fact that they practice and are taking this serious, so all the best to them!
Hey did the turtles play? We saw them down at summer sizzle here in Baltimore. They played in the "B" division. We thought they were an A division team. Very confusing. Down here in MD A teams play A and B teams play B. I guess the website is more important!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
... they won all 3 games. The first game was 30 to 2, 2nd game was 13 to 6 and the last game was 20 plus to 6 (stopped counting). The coach tried to slow it down by switching the kids to different positions and honestly that is the only reason the other teams scored. My son was disappointed that the competition was not better.
First, building super teams where top talent is collected is valuable to improve the top end caliber of play, however you need to create an environment where those teams can find competition. BOTC has called for the creation of a premier elite league structure on a regional level, similar to what exists in Youth Soccer, to allow the best teams to compete on a regular basis.
Second, a completely tiered league system is required (once the top level league is created) to establish a proving ground for promotion and relegation. This would extend down to the state/county level.
Third, Long Island Lacrosse needs to crack the problem where top clubs from outside of New [lacrosse] (New Jersey, Maryland in particular) are comfortable coming to our region and competing in single or multiple day tournaments.
Only once these three steps are taken will the real promise of forming premier teams be realized.
The competition at the fall and winter tournaments can be hot or miss. Too many other things going on this time of year with football, basketball, etc. in full swing. You will get a better feeling of where the teams stand in the spring during the Oyster Bay League if they play each other. Otherwise, you'll need to wait until the summer tour starts. We should be seeing some very good games at the 2016 level this year. Good luck to all the boys. Many of the boys are friends on the different teams and we as parents should make sure it stays that way regardless of what team uniform they happen to be wearing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey did the turtles play? We saw them down at summer sizzle here in Baltimore. They played in the "B" division. We thought they were an A division team. Very confusing. Down here in MD A teams play A and B teams play B. I guess the website is more important!!!!!
If the turtles were in a "B" division they were probably playing up a year.
Fascinating stuff. However, while some of the posts still seem to have sentiment in the way this team was created it is what it is. I don't get the sense that anyone is criticizing the players or their commitment (if they are they should be ashamed), but rather what is not being said and that is the scores. Has anyone taken note? I think we should ask the parents of this team to voice their opinion on this. Are the scores we are hearing true? 25-0 etc? Worse? Even if you move players around it seems to be a little over the top? Hopefully some parents of this team will weigh in and tell us why this is a good thing. Any parents happy with the coach for running up the score? Or questioning if they want to be apart of that? Any of the parents concerned about retaliation/safety - while completely unacceptable,you never know. Hopefully some of the parents will post.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
... they won all 3 games. The first game was 30 to 2, 2nd game was 13 to 6 and the last game was 20 plus to 6 (stopped counting). The coach tried to slow it down by switching the kids to different positions and honestly that is the only reason the other teams scored. My son was disappointed that the competition was not better.
First, building super teams where top talent is collected is valuable to improve the top end caliber of play, however you need to create an environment where those teams can find competition. BOTC has called for the creation of a premier elite league structure on a regional level, similar to what exists in Youth Soccer, to allow the best teams to compete on a regular basis.
Second, a completely tiered league system is required (once the top level league is created) to establish a proving ground for promotion and relegation. This would extend down to the state/county level.
Third, Long Island Lacrosse needs to crack the problem where top clubs from outside of New [lacrosse] (New Jersey, Maryland in particular) are comfortable coming to our region and competing in single or multiple day tournaments.
Only once these three steps are taken will the real promise of forming premier teams be realized.
Fourth, Which really should be number one! Someone needs to come up with a governing system with regard to age. Most of these top super teams are littered with kids playing down a year. Look at the top 2018 teams right now (Express & 91). Many, but not all the top tier kids should be, by age, in 7th grade. It's just a fact. It's been going on in this sport for years. In soccer, they have validated the kids age. Older kids play up, regardless of thier "grade"! You get caught cheating the system your club is banned. It's the only way we're going to level the playing field.
There were no 25 - 0 scores. Yes there were multiple double digit wins in all games at Hofstra. I do not believe the kids were told to run up the score, but after running your motion offense, sometimes you have to let a shot go. The kids themselves were not firing away at the opposing goalie, many shots were on stick and still went in. All games were started with the intent to play aggressively.
Yes I have a son on this team. He left the field commenting that he wishes the games were better, not boring. But as many previous posts noted, fall ball is what it is. It is a time to work on some chemistry and introduce new plays and adjust lines. I do not condone in any manner anyone thumping their chests over scores in these games. That is ridiculous and apparently many are living thru their sons and this teams success. Retaliation can happen, hopefully it won't. That is something that all parents should address with their boys. No team wins all the time. This group is talented and well coached. Nobody can predict what the future holds. Hopefully alot of fun and it ends where these boys want it to end up and not anyone else.
Yes I have a son on this team. He left the field commenting that he wishes the games were better, not boring. But as many previous posts noted, fall ball is what it is. It is a time to work on some chemistry and introduce new plays and adjust lines. I do not condone in any manner anyone thumping their chests over scores in these games. That is ridiculous and apparently many are living thru their sons and this teams success. Retaliation can happen, hopefully it won't. That is something that all parents should address with their boys. No team wins all the time. This group is talented and well coached. Nobody can predict what the future holds. Hopefully alot of fun and it ends where these boys want it to end up and not anyone else.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fascinating stuff. However, while some of the posts still seem to have sentiment in the way this team was created it is what it is. I don't get the sense that anyone is criticizing the players or their commitment (if they are they should be ashamed), but rather what is not being said and that is the scores. Has anyone taken note? I think we should ask the parents of this team to voice their opinion on this. Are the scores we are hearing true? 25-0 etc? Worse? Even if you move players around it seems to be a little over the top? Hopefully some parents of this team will weigh in and tell us why this is a good thing. Any parents happy with the coach for running up the score? Or questioning if they want to be apart of that? Any of the parents concerned about retaliation/safety - while completely unacceptable,you never know. Hopefully some of the parents will post.
Outside observation (no son even playing). I see that as a parent, I would be proud to have a son selected as an elite player and chosen for this team. But the beat downs are embarrassing to the team, I would be ashamed of my kid scoring the 20th, 21st, 22nd etc... goal in one of these games. The coaches are ultimately to blame, just horrible job of sportsmanship. This reminds me of the girls high school basketball game that was all over the news a couple years ago (100 to 0). Except this may be worse because they did it game after game... what a joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fourth, Which really should be number one! Someone needs to come up with a governing system with regard to age. Most of these top super teams are littered with kids playing down a year. Look at the top 2018 teams right now (Express & 91). Many, but not all the top tier kids should be, by age, in 7th grade. It's just a fact. It's been going on in this sport for years. In soccer, they have validated the kids age. Older kids play up, regardless of thier "grade"! You get caught cheating the system your club is banned. It's the only way we're going to level the playing field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
... they won all 3 games. The first game was 30 to 2, 2nd game was 13 to 6 and the last game was 20 plus to 6 (stopped counting). The coach tried to slow it down by switching the kids to different positions and honestly that is the only reason the other teams scored. My son was disappointed that the competition was not better.
First, building super teams where top talent is collected is valuable to improve the top end caliber of play, however you need to create an environment where those teams can find competition. BOTC has called for the creation of a premier elite league structure on a regional level, similar to what exists in Youth Soccer, to allow the best teams to compete on a regular basis.
Second, a completely tiered league system is required (once the top level league is created) to establish a proving ground for promotion and relegation. This would extend down to the state/county level.
Third, Long Island Lacrosse needs to crack the problem where top clubs from outside of New [lacrosse] (New Jersey, Maryland in particular) are comfortable coming to our region and competing in single or multiple day tournaments.
Only once these three steps are taken will the real promise of forming premier teams be realized.
Fourth, Which really should be number one! Someone needs to come up with a governing system with regard to age. Most of these top super teams are littered with kids playing down a year. Look at the top 2018 teams right now (Express & 91). Many, but not all the top tier kids should be, by age, in 7th grade. It's just a fact. It's been going on in this sport for years. In soccer, they have validated the kids age. Older kids play up, regardless of thier "grade"! You get caught cheating the system your club is banned. It's the only way we're going to level the playing field.
You are DEAD ON!! I agree bigtime!My son either plays his age or "up". Youth (travel) Baseball & Youth Football...good luck cheating with them in regards to having a kid play that is OLDER or doesnt have a proper birth certificate!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fascinating stuff. However, while some of the posts still seem to have sentiment in the way this team was created it is what it is. I don't get the sense that anyone is criticizing the players or their commitment (if they are they should be ashamed), but rather what is not being said and that is the scores. Has anyone taken note? I think we should ask the parents of this team to voice their opinion on this. Are the scores we are hearing true? 25-0 etc? Worse? Even if you move players around it seems to be a little over the top? Hopefully some parents of this team will weigh in and tell us why this is a good thing. Any parents happy with the coach for running up the score? Or questioning if they want to be apart of that? Any of the parents concerned about retaliation/safety - while completely unacceptable,you never know. Hopefully some of the parents will post.
I am the parent that wrote about the Dowling tournament and this team is not the Express Orange (Baracudas). It was a team put together of kids that wanted to keep the stick in their hands in the fall. My son got on the team because of kids that he knows from camps and other travel teams. Many of them also play football and soccer and we fluctuate between 12 and 14 kids making the games because of the other sports. In the Dowling tournament the scores were that high for this team and they really tried to slow it down. I can not speak for the Express and their scores. In fact this tournament only allowed the first faceoff and then it was cleared from the scored on goal. So it wasn't that are faceoff kid was incredible and we won the faceoff everytime it was just really talented kids that wanted to play lacrosse. If the competition is not there and you try to slow it down what else do you do ? Tell them not to score anymore. The kids came to play. As someone else said a lot of kids are not playing right now because of other sports. My son plays middle school soccer, travel soccer and this lacrosse team. Not to mention that he practices every Saturday with his travel lacrosse team. We often race from the Sunday lacrosse game to his travel soccer game. As for this team they are just playing together in the fall so we will not know what would happen in the spring or summer. Most of them are going back to their original travel teams. We are at least getting good games at Farmingdale. Once the spring and summer games come I think you will see the Express Orange will have more competition. You can not tell me that there are only 22 kids on Long Island that are talented lacrosse players. I have been watching my son play lacrosse for eight years and have watched a lot of games and I can tell you there are a lot of talented kids out there. That is why some parents are getting nuts worrying that their kid will not get a scholorship. Let's not forget their grades !!! You can be the best lacrosse player on Long Island, but if your academics are in the tank you are not going anywhere. Except for a few people who is making $$$ in lacrosse once they are out of college ??
But there was another Express team in the same division. Looks like they were running away from a tougher division so they could post a "Champion" label on the website. Seems kind of weak to us here in MD.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fourth, Which really should be number one! Someone needs to come up with a governing system with regard to age. Most of these top super teams are littered with kids playing down a year. Look at the top 2018 teams right now (Express & 91). Many, but not all the top tier kids should be, by age, in 7th grade. It's just a fact. It's been going on in this sport for years. In soccer, they have validated the kids age. Older kids play up, regardless of thier "grade"! You get caught cheating the system your club is banned. It's the only way we're going to level the playing field.
I agree !! My son plays soccer and you have to provide proof of age and photo to the soccer club. Before everygame the ref's check every Photo-ID. I know of several kids that are playing down in lacrosse. The parents should be ashamed of themselves. I know of a couple of (sports) parents that actually held their kid back starting school so they would have an edge. It happens in all sports except soccer. My son also wrestles and I can not tell you how many times my son wrestled a kid that was his weight, but clearly had man muscles and found out later that he was a year or more older then my son.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
But there was another Express team in the same division. Looks like they were running away from a tougher division so they could post a "Champion" label on the website. Seems kind of weak to us here in MD.
My son does not play for the Express, but he knows a lot of the players and they have two AA teams and an A team in the 2016 division. So I do not think they were running away from anything. We have a lot of talent on Long Island and I am sure you do in Maryland. So let's leave it at that.
The tournaments normally govern the age, I can tell you my son who is a sept birthday and started school early plays on a 2017 team but is the same age as boys on the 2018 team you mention
When a tournament is age based, he plays on the team, when its grade based, they do not allow him to play so I know for a fact at least one of the teams you mentioned here is following the tournament/league rules for age and not stacking teams.
When a tournament is age based, he plays on the team, when its grade based, they do not allow him to play so I know for a fact at least one of the teams you mentioned here is following the tournament/league rules for age and not stacking teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were no 25 - 0 scores. Yes there were multiple double digit wins in all games at Hofstra. I do not believe the kids were told to run up the score, but after running your motion offense, sometimes you have to let a shot go. The kids themselves were not firing away at the opposing goalie, many shots were on stick and still went in. All games were started with the intent to play aggressively.
Yes I have a son on this team. He left the field commenting that he wishes the games were better, not boring. But as many previous posts noted, fall ball is what it is. It is a time to work on some chemistry and introduce new plays and adjust lines. I do not condone in any manner anyone thumping their chests over scores in these games. That is ridiculous and apparently many are living thru their sons and this teams success. Retaliation can happen, hopefully it won't. That is something that all parents should address with their boys. No team wins all the time. This group is talented and well coached. Nobody can predict what the future holds. Hopefully alot of fun and it ends where these boys want it to end up and not anyone else.
Yes I have a son on this team. He left the field commenting that he wishes the games were better, not boring. But as many previous posts noted, fall ball is what it is. It is a time to work on some chemistry and introduce new plays and adjust lines. I do not condone in any manner anyone thumping their chests over scores in these games. That is ridiculous and apparently many are living thru their sons and this teams success. Retaliation can happen, hopefully it won't. That is something that all parents should address with their boys. No team wins all the time. This group is talented and well coached. Nobody can predict what the future holds. Hopefully alot of fun and it ends where these boys want it to end up and not anyone else.
great post and on behalf of this express - parent, thank you, some of us "get it"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The tournaments normally govern the age, I can tell you my son who is a sept birthday and started school early plays on a 2017 team but is the same age as boys on the 2018 team you mention
When a tournament is age based, he plays on the team, when its grade based, they do not allow him to play so I know for a fact at least one of the teams you mentioned here is following the tournament/league rules for age and not stacking teams.
When a tournament is age based, he plays on the team, when its grade based, they do not allow him to play so I know for a fact at least one of the teams you mentioned here is following the tournament/league rules for age and not stacking teams.
unfortunately not every team or club plays by the rules 100% of the time. We played in a tournament last year and there was a club from Florida that had 2 or 3 older kids on each team. Our U15 coach thought something was up, but when they were at Subway having lunch they saw 2 of the kids they just played get into their own car and drive off. He made an official complaint and the tournament director investigated and found that this club had older kids on everyone of their teams. The entire club was thrown out of the tournament. Unfortunately for my sons U13 team we did not find out until we had already left the tournament. The director wanted us to come back, but we were to far away. I will never understand why anyone would want to win this way. If you need a trophy that bad you can go online and buy one.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The tournaments normally govern the age, I can tell you my son who is a sept birthday and started school early plays on a 2017 team but is the same age as boys on the 2018 team you mention
When a tournament is age based, he plays on the team, when its grade based, they do not allow him to play so I know for a fact at least one of the teams you mentioned here is following the tournament/league rules for age and not stacking teams.
When a tournament is age based, he plays on the team, when its grade based, they do not allow him to play so I know for a fact at least one of the teams you mentioned here is following the tournament/league rules for age and not stacking teams.
No matter where you go, there always seems to be a team or two who blatently has older kids on their teams. Don't know what team you're referring to but, I know my son's team doesn't do it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The tournaments normally govern the age, I can tell you my son who is a sept birthday and started school early plays on a 2017 team but is the same age as boys on the 2018 team you mention
When a tournament is age based, he plays on the team, when its grade based, they do not allow him to play so I know for a fact at least one of the teams you mentioned here is following the tournament/league rules for age and not stacking teams.
When a tournament is age based, he plays on the team, when its grade based, they do not allow him to play so I know for a fact at least one of the teams you mentioned here is following the tournament/league rules for age and not stacking teams.
unfortunately not every team or club plays by the rules 100% of the time. We played in a tournament last year and there was a club from Florida that had 2 or 3 older kids on each team. Our U15 coach thought something was up, but when they were at Subway having lunch they saw 2 of the kids they just played get into their own car and drive off. He made an official complaint and the tournament director investigated and found that this club had older kids on everyone of their teams. The entire club was thrown out of the tournament. Unfortunately for my sons U13 team we did not find out until we had already left the tournament. The director wanted us to come back, but we were to far away. I will never understand why anyone would want to win this way. If you need a trophy that bad you can go online and buy one.
It's not about the trophy, it's about the picture for the website.
Yes, great post,but could you clarify further? You mentioned in your post you did not think the players were told to run up the score. Were they told to not score? Letting the shot go? You can still run plays, develop chemistry, etc and still not embarass a lesser opponent I would think? I'm sure the coaching is going all out for this group on the x's and o's side but do the coaches really "get it"? Would be curious to hear from other parents of players on this team to see if they are somewhat concerned about what lessons are being taught. I realize that side of it may not be part of the ciriculum, but just wondering what some of the other players parents think?
Good push bak to my previous post. I can not answer if the players were told not to shoot. I will ask my son what was being said during and after the games. From my perspective only, the intensity had dropped as the coaches saw the level of competition. I do not personally believe the coaches get any great thrill out of embarrassing another team.
You mean like in the last 20 minutes of the games when they played "keep away" from the other team by not shooting? It was bad to watch. Fall ball is not really competition time so things like this happen. I think it hurt more to the kids and parents, thank god the refs ran the clock off like the last 15 minutes became 5 minutes
Here is the bottom line. These organizations know that there is a better chance of players returning if they win games. I was at a local tournament last summer in in a U-13 division (11 and 12 year olds) played a team of 14 year olds. The attackmen came up to the defensemen's waists. Not only did they get beat up physically, but the score was very crooked. The coach told me after the game that his team was 2-10 last year and 14-2 this year. I'm sure his team had a wonderful time and they all are looking to come back. That U-13 team has been disbanded. This has historically been a problem. Either playing in the wrong age bracket or wrong skill bracket. Ever hear let's have some success and go in the C bracket? By the way, this was not an Express team, but making the point about the emphasis on winning (and by how many goals) at all costs.
Very true
my son played on a hockey team that lost a game 20 - 0, there were very strong words and a near fight with coaches and parents after the game, the two teams played 3 weeks later and the other team scored in the first minute of the game and then played keep away for almost three full periods, kids would go in on breakaways and then just stop and give us the puck. trust me the 1-0 loss was a far greater and intended humiliation then the 20 - 0 game. The only thing you can do is split the teams up and play a pick up game but I don't see that ever happening.
I don't understand what the whining about running up the score is all about. These are 8th graders, not 4th graders. Next year they will be playing JV. They are young adults now and are past the age of "a trophy for everybody" and needing to be be sheltered and coddled from the lessons of a big setback in an athletic competition. A good a@@ kickin' has good lessons too and its not the end of the world! The kids and especially parents of the other teams need to "buck up"!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You mean like in the last 20 minutes of the games when they played "keep away" from the other team by not shooting? It was bad to watch. Fall ball is not really competition time so things like this happen. I think it hurt more to the kids and parents, thank god the refs ran the clock off like the last 15 minutes became 5 minutes
How about the coaches get together and swap some pinnies and scrimmage together??? I know fl$ did that at the Crimson tournament a couple of years ago. A great example of good sportsmanship.
Originally Posted by 429lax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You mean like in the last 20 minutes of the games when they played "keep away" from the other team by not shooting? It was bad to watch. Fall ball is not really competition time so things like this happen. I think it hurt more to the kids and parents, thank god the refs ran the clock off like the last 15 minutes became 5 minutes
How about the coaches get together and swap some pinnies and scrimmage together??? I know fl$ did that at the Crimson tournament a couple of years ago. A great example of good sportsmanship.
Folks. Focus here, there is no sportsmanship in business. Its kill or be killed. Your children are playing for a company, where grown men make a living, pay their mortgages with, and pay thier kids college tuitions with. It's not PAL with a bunch of Dad's coaching. I'm not saying that playing for one of the big teams is a bad thing, but you have to understand the underlying forces at play here. "Nothing personal, it's just business"
If you start to look at things in this manner, you will understand why things are the way they are.
Again, I'm not bashing any club (business) here, it is just the reality of the situation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't understand what the whining about running up the score is all about. These are 8th graders, not 4th graders. Next year they will be playing JV. They are young adults now and are past the age of "a trophy for everybody" and needing to be be sheltered and coddled from the lessons of a big setback in an athletic competition. A good a@@ kickin' has good lessons too and its not the end of the world! The kids and especially parents of the other teams need to "buck up"!
Your statement is the exact reason the team is getting such a bad reputation.
Kill or be killed? Underlying forces at play? Really?
I don't think anyone enjoys completely blowing out an obviously less competitive team. This does not happen at the more established tournaments. I bet next year this same tournament will be more competitive as Fall Ball grows legs.
As for focus - Good will is good PR which is certainly good business. Businesses thrive on being able to recognize the situation they're in and then capitalize on it. Pounding a weaker team into the ground has no benefits.
I don't think anyone enjoys completely blowing out an obviously less competitive team. This does not happen at the more established tournaments. I bet next year this same tournament will be more competitive as Fall Ball grows legs.
As for focus - Good will is good PR which is certainly good business. Businesses thrive on being able to recognize the situation they're in and then capitalize on it. Pounding a weaker team into the ground has no benefits.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't understand what the whining about running up the score is all about. These are 8th graders, not 4th graders. Next year they will be playing JV. They are young adults now and are past the age of "a trophy for everybody" and needing to be be sheltered and coddled from the lessons of a big setback in an athletic competition. A good a@@ kickin' has good lessons too and its not the end of the world! The kids and especially parents of the other teams need to "buck up"!
I think/hope that post was a joke trying to get a rise out of all of us
Your statement is the exact reason the team is getting such a bad reputation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
my son played on a hockey team that lost a game 20 - 0, there were very strong words and a near fight with coaches and parents after the game, the two teams played 3 weeks later and the other team scored in the first minute of the game and then played keep away for almost three full periods, kids would go in on breakaways and then just stop and give us the puck. trust me the 1-0 loss was a far greater and intended humiliation then the 20 - 0 game. The only thing you can do is split the teams up and play a pick up game but I don't see that ever happening.
We were not even "killing" the other team- I think it was 6-1 at the time and our hockey coach took all his defense and made the offensive lines and vice versa- the only thing that did not change- the goalie stayed put. These were 8-9 yr olds. The coach told them after they learned more about themselves and their skills from this game by playing other positions then they would have by running up the score against this team. This was a league game. I thought the coach handled it pretty well and while the score remained pretty much the same- we did not score either. I thought this was a great lesson for all and no one was humiliated. if the real competition is in the Spring summer league- why not change things up- let someone play goalie that is not usually in the goal, let an attackman handle a long stick... no need for a 20-0 game, regardless if it is a business or not- if they had a large lead they would have kept it if the players are all talented and it may have evened out the playing field just a bit, or maybe not- but at least they tried.
A slice of humble pie? Never a bad thing. But, 10-0 is a but kicking, 15-0 is absurd, 20+ or worse?? Not sure when "class" went out of style.
Originally Posted by 429lax
Kill or be killed? Underlying forces at play? Really?
I don't think anyone enjoys completely blowing out an obviously less competitive team. This does not happen at the more established tournaments. I bet next year this same tournament will be more competitive as Fall Ball grows legs.
As for focus - Good will is good PR which is certainly good business. Businesses thrive on being able to recognize the situation they're in and then capitalize on it. Pounding a weaker team into the ground has no benefits.
I don't think anyone enjoys completely blowing out an obviously less competitive team. This does not happen at the more established tournaments. I bet next year this same tournament will be more competitive as Fall Ball grows legs.
As for focus - Good will is good PR which is certainly good business. Businesses thrive on being able to recognize the situation they're in and then capitalize on it. Pounding a weaker team into the ground has no benefits.
Once again, you're confusing sport with business. The dominate business in any market draws the most customers..... and crush the competition.
Ever heard of Apple, JnJ, etc...
Biggest and the best just seem to get the most customers, nothing different here. Just on a smaller scale. Don't get upset about it, recognize what you're dealing with. Again, not a bad thing. Just what it is.
Look, on the flip side, these teams help a lot of kids to get better at the game. I'm not saying they don't. If you allow yourself to understand the bigger picture, all this stuff won't bother you. You can just accept it for what it is and focus on improving you're son's game. My kids have been doing this travel thing for years. I can't tell you the score one game from last summer, or four summers ago, nor could any of my kids.
I can tell you they are better lacrosse players!
We should rename this post express bashing. There is never any positive that they have good teams, Good coaching and some really good players. Express had huge turn outs for tryouts at all ages. They will keep practicing all year to improve. Come the summer these kids will have been together for months. If other teams and organizations don't do the same that is their loss. Express players also play many sports but put in the time. Why don't you guys go to your teams post and complain about your own teams success.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't understand what the whining about running up the score is all about. These are 8th graders, not 4th graders. Next year they will be playing JV. They are young adults now and are past the age of "a trophy for everybody" and needing to be be sheltered and coddled from the lessons of a big setback in an athletic competition. A good a@@ kickin' has good lessons too and its not the end of the world! The kids and especially parents of the other teams need to "buck up"!
Its bad enough that this even happened, but when you have parents supporting it with this kind of attitude, it is sad.
EVERY top team in 2018 had older kids. Funny how the person that made the post singled out 91 and Express and forgot to mention other teams.
Stop crying over having a couple of kids that might be a couple of months older than others. Don't see the same complainers mention anything about teams that have young kids.
My sons' team happens to have a few of the youngest kids in the age group but you don't see us complaining about it.
The new rules have the age cut off just like soccer now, August 31st, so all the kids were just fine.
Now that the rules have changed what will the new excuse be for not being as good as 91 or Express?
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Stop crying over having a couple of kids that might be a couple of months older than others. Don't see the same complainers mention anything about teams that have young kids.
My sons' team happens to have a few of the youngest kids in the age group but you don't see us complaining about it.
The new rules have the age cut off just like soccer now, August 31st, so all the kids were just fine.
Now that the rules have changed what will the new excuse be for not being as good as 91 or Express?
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by 429lax
Kill or be killed? Underlying forces at play? Really?
I don't think anyone enjoys completely blowing out an obviously less competitive team. This does not happen at the more established tournaments. I bet next year this same tournament will be more competitive as Fall Ball grows legs.
As for focus - Good will is good PR which is certainly good business. Businesses thrive on being able to recognize the situation they're in and then capitalize on it. Pounding a weaker team into the ground has no benefits.
I don't think anyone enjoys completely blowing out an obviously less competitive team. This does not happen at the more established tournaments. I bet next year this same tournament will be more competitive as Fall Ball grows legs.
As for focus - Good will is good PR which is certainly good business. Businesses thrive on being able to recognize the situation they're in and then capitalize on it. Pounding a weaker team into the ground has no benefits.
Once again, you're confusing sport with business. The dominate business in any market draws the most customers..... and crush the competition.
Ever heard of Apple, JnJ, etc...
Biggest and the best just seem to get the most customers, nothing different here. Just on a smaller scale. Don't get upset about it, recognize what you're dealing with. Again, not a bad thing. Just what it is.
Look, on the flip side, these teams help a lot of kids to get better at the game. I'm not saying they don't. If you allow yourself to understand the bigger picture, all this stuff won't bother you. You can just accept it for what it is and focus on improving you're son's game. My kids have been doing this travel thing for years. I can't tell you the score one game from last summer, or four summers ago, nor could any of my kids.
I can tell you they are better lacrosse players!
I am not the one who is confused. I just don't agree with you. Comparing the business model of LI Club lacrosse to Apple is ridiculous on any scale. I don't begrudge or bash any organization; the consumer will decide if the value of their experience was worth it. In my opinion, an organization that promotes and delivers competitive lacrosse along with good values will draw a bigger market share than those that don't.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
... The new rules have the age cut off just like soccer now, August 31st, so all the kids were just fine. Now that the rules have changed what will the new excuse be for not being as good as 91 or Express?
The real issue is those of you involved in the youth lacrosse scene do not TRUST that age groups are being properly policed. The fact that US Lacrosse has issued new guidelines tied to getting a US Lacrosse-sanctioned tournament is great, but not everything is US Lacrosse sanctioned. All of which means that the TRUST issues will remain. As long as those TRUST issues remain, BOTC's message boards will be covered with such buzz.
The issue therefore comes back to how do you restore TRUST? First, you need to decide what organization exists that you do infact TRUST? Clearly, one can enforce birth dates at the tournament level, but that still opens a tournament organizer to questions of TRUST and turning the other way when players are checked-in for an event.
The only way to clear this TRUST barrier is to have US Lacrosse centrally sanction player passes and for the referee at the field to validate the roster and player passes at game time. Some youth lacrosse purists will bristle at this idea, but what other TRUST authority can you install in this process so that you have both the check and balance (sanctioning body, and referee) in validating the ages?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We should rename this post express bashing. There is never any positive that they have good teams, Good coaching and some really good players. Express had huge turn outs for tryouts at all ages. They will keep practicing all year to improve. Come the summer these kids will have been together for months. If other teams and organizations don't do the same that is their loss. Express players also play many sports but put in the time. Why don't you guys go to your teams post and complain about your own teams success.
When a team CHARGES MONEY for a TRYOUT, forms a team, then recruits newer/better players because the team turned out to be mediocre, then kicks some of the players to the curb and enters a tournament as a "new" team, what kind of reception do you really think they are going to get from parents?
The Express have proven themselves to be the lowest of the low.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When a team CHARGES MONEY for a TRYOUT, forms a team, then recruits newer/better players because the team turned out to be mediocre, then kicks some of the players to the curb and enters a tournament as a "new" team, what kind of reception do you really think they are going to get from parents?
The Express have proven themselves to be the lowest of the low.
The Express have proven themselves to be the lowest of the low.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We should rename this post express bashing. There is never any positive that they have good teams, Good coaching and some really good players. Express had huge turn outs for tryouts at all ages. They will keep practicing all year to improve. Come the summer these kids will have been together for months. If other teams and organizations don't do the same that is their loss. Express players also play many sports but put in the time. Why don't you guys go to your teams post and complain about your own teams success.
When a team CHARGES MONEY for a TRYOUT, forms a team, then recruits newer/better players because the team turned out to be mediocre, then kicks some of the players to the curb and enters a tournament as a "new" team, what kind of reception do you really think they are going to get from parents?
The Express have proven themselves to be the lowest of the low.
Looks like some people just can't let go of the barracudas. I don't know the express's intent on accepting this team for the tournamanet they played over the summer. I've read anything from it was just one tournament for the boys to play together to the express wanting to form another turtles type team. At this point, "it is what it is". The only sure thing that came out of it is that the club scene on LI for 2016 boys is vastly different then it was just a few months ago. If these changes are for the better or for the worse remains to be seen.
"This topic is not one related to just Team 91 or Team Express - let's clear that up right now"
You are 100 percent correct. My son made a different travel team and I noted several of the kids had birthdays that were not age appropriate so I asked what they do when it is a us sanctioned event. The reply was that they are not sure, either those kids will not be allowed to play or the team will be required to play up in age , but was told most tournaments are not us lacrosse sanctioned.
You are 100 percent correct. My son made a different travel team and I noted several of the kids had birthdays that were not age appropriate so I asked what they do when it is a us sanctioned event. The reply was that they are not sure, either those kids will not be allowed to play or the team will be required to play up in age , but was told most tournaments are not us lacrosse sanctioned.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
... The new rules have the age cut off just like soccer now, August 31st, so all the kids were just fine. Now that the rules have changed what will the new excuse be for not being as good as 91 or Express?
The real issue is those of you involved in the youth lacrosse scene do not TRUST that age groups are being properly policed. The fact that US Lacrosse has issued new guidelines tied to getting a US Lacrosse-sanctioned tournament is great, but not everything is US Lacrosse sanctioned. All of which means that the TRUST issues will remain. As long as those TRUST issues remain, BOTC's message boards will be covered with such buzz.
The issue therefore comes back to how do you restore TRUST? First, you need to decide what organization exists that you do infact TRUST? Clearly, one can enforce birth dates at the tournament level, but that still opens a tournament organizer to questions of TRUST and turning the other way when players are checked-in for an event.
The only way to clear this TRUST barrier is to have US Lacrosse centrally sanction player passes and for the referee at the field to validate the roster and player passes at game time. Some youth lacrosse purists will bristle at this idea, but what other TRUST authority can you install in this process so that you have both the check and balance (sanctioning body, and referee) in validating the ages?
They do it in football, why not lacrosse? One of my favorite pictures is my son standing mid field with his defender. My sons Helmet was below the boy's shoulders, they were 11 at the time. I asked one of the dads how old the kid was and he vehemently asserted that the boy was 11. My son heard this and came over to tell us no way dad the kid has a beard. Our kids got totally blown out, and there was a lot of monkey in the middle going on. The other coach did not inflate the score but honestly whats the point? I even tried to kid around with the other parents but they just made nasty comments and refused to acknowlege that there kids were older. They were from CT. So it's not just teams around here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
... The new rules have the age cut off just like soccer now, August 31st, so all the kids were just fine. Now that the rules have changed what will the new excuse be for not being as good as 91 or Express?
The real issue is those of you involved in the youth lacrosse scene do not TRUST that age groups are being properly policed. The fact that US Lacrosse has issued new guidelines tied to getting a US Lacrosse-sanctioned tournament is great, but not everything is US Lacrosse sanctioned. All of which means that the TRUST issues will remain. As long as those TRUST issues remain, BOTC's message boards will be covered with such buzz.
The issue therefore comes back to how do you restore TRUST? First, you need to decide what organization exists that you do infact TRUST? Clearly, one can enforce birth dates at the tournament level, but that still opens a tournament organizer to questions of TRUST and turning the other way when players are checked-in for an event.
The only way to clear this TRUST barrier is to have US Lacrosse centrally sanction player passes and for the referee at the field to validate the roster and player passes at game time. Some youth lacrosse purists will bristle at this idea, but what other TRUST authority can you install in this process so that you have both the check and balance (sanctioning body, and referee) in validating the ages?
They do it in football, why not lacrosse? One of my favorite pictures is my son standing mid field with his defender. My sons Helmet was below the boy's shoulders, they were 11 at the time. I asked one of the dads how old the kid was and he vehemently asserted that the boy was 11. My son heard this and came over to tell us no way dad the kid has a beard. Our kids got totally blown out, and there was a lot of monkey in the middle going on. The other coach did not inflate the score but honestly whats the point? I even tried to kid around with the other parents but they just made nasty comments and refused to acknowlege that there kids were older. They were from CT. So it's not just teams around here.
The club teams operate outside of any leagues or govering body so they are left to be on the honor system. I know my son's team doesn't bring in any ringers. Some of the teams I saw this summer however just don't seem to care. Honestly, unless the individual tournmanet directors start asking for birth certificates and verifying them, I don't see anything changing in the near future. All the talk about ID cards and certified rosters are fine but who's going to pay for this and govern it? The quick answer is no one has the resources or money to implement it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
EVERY top team in 2018 had older kids. Funny how the person that made the post singled out 91 and Express and forgot to mention other teams.
Stop crying over having a couple of kids that might be a couple of months older than others. Don't see the same complainers mention anything about teams that have young kids.
My sons' team happens to have a few of the youngest kids in the age group but you don't see us complaining about it.
The new rules have the age cut off just like soccer now, August 31st, so all the kids were just fine.
Now that the rules have changed what will the new excuse be for not being as good as 91 or Express?
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Stop crying over having a couple of kids that might be a couple of months older than others. Don't see the same complainers mention anything about teams that have young kids.
My sons' team happens to have a few of the youngest kids in the age group but you don't see us complaining about it.
The new rules have the age cut off just like soccer now, August 31st, so all the kids were just fine.
Now that the rules have changed what will the new excuse be for not being as good as 91 or Express?
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No excuses jack wagon. Anytime you put kids on a team that should be playing in a higher grade due to age, to get an advantage, it's cheating. Sad. I bet you're under five nine !!!
Read the age rules slick.
FYI. Your mom knows my height.
FYI. Your mom knows my height.
if a team is 2018 then it is comprised of kids currently in 6th grade scheduled to graduate HS in 2018 - regardless of age so it is not cheating it is playing on a team based on school year not birth date, if you are on a 2018 team and they go to a U11 tournament and you your child does not fall into that age bracket of the tournament and they still play then that is cheating - but to arbitrarily say that they are cheating is not correct. As I understand the USLacrosse change of age rule it only pertains to teams and tournaments that are age based U15/U13 ect. and the cut off date is now Aug 31st. but again if you are on a 2018 team and playing in a 2018 league or tournament then any kid scheduled to graduate in 2018 being born in 1999 does not make him ineligible or a cheater.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Read the age rules slick.
FYI. Your mom knows my height.
FYI. Your mom knows my height.
Pass the popcorn, this getting good. LOL
Look, having kids on a team that are supposed to be on the next team up, simply put is cheating. If you want to justify it to yourself because they're in the same grade, great. When you have kids that are a year or potentially more than year older than the grade they're playing in it's wrong. When the average age is 11, and you have kids that are 12+ playing against them, it's an unfair advantage, period. When some crazy parent held their kid back and put them in kindergarten when they were 6 and a half that doesn't make it right. Now they're 12 and half and in sixth grade. That year extra of physical maturity is a major advantage. That kid belongs playing with kids his own age. Once again, the only way this garbage stops is when we start validating kids age.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look, having kids on a team that are supposed to be on the next team up, simply put is cheating. If you want to justify it to yourself because they're in the same grade, great. When you have kids that are a year or potentially more than year older than the grade they're playing in it's wrong. When the average age is 11, and you have kids that are 12+ playing against them, it's an unfair advantage, period. When some crazy parent held their kid back and put them in kindergarten when they were 6 and a half that doesn't make it right. Now they're 12 and half and in sixth grade. That year extra of physical maturity is a major advantage. That kid belongs playing with kids his own age. Once again, the only way this garbage stops is when we start validating kids age.
I understand your point, the major problem with this thinking is that when the kid is in the summer going into 12th grade he will not have anywhere to play since he would be too old, but trust me, when they are getting recruited the college, the coaches want to know what year they are graduating not how old they are and in all school ball they will play by grade not age, I am a big believer in playing with your own grade.
Sucks watching younger kids get physically beat up. But the truth is they get more out of that matchup than a bully team that folds when they finally play kids their own age.
X4N8Can you tell me why this age crap is on the express blog and does not have it's own forum. Also express filled all responsibilities last year and never did they relace any kid to make room for another
Originally Posted by Anonymous
X4N8Can you tell me why this age crap is on the express blog and does not have it's own forum. Also express filled all responsibilities last year and never did they relace any kid to make room for another
Come on bro! The top teams @ Express and (others)recruit the older kids, that's why it's here. Also, kids who didn't even tryout showed up at all points during the season. They take playing time from other kids, who worked thier butt's off at practice to maybe get a little more playing time. Just a fact, its no big deal. Maybe the truth bothers you? Or do you have a guilty conscious? If that's your idea of "filled all responsibities", then that's all we need to know.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
X4N8Can you tell me why this age crap is on the express blog and does not have it's own forum. Also express filled all responsibilities last year and never did they relace any kid to make room for another
What about the age issue?
Been with express for a long time. They have never changed a kid that is team 91's motto have 3 friends there that it happened 2 ask an express parent not their way
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Been with express for a long time. They have never changed a kid that is team 91's motto have 3 friends there that it happened 2 ask an express parent not their way
Do any adults actually write like this?
I hope anonymous post from 10/6 about Coach Mcmanus is untrue. Know the Coach a few years now and all he has been to the EXpress is a good soldier, done what ever they asked. Had a very good team that was torn apart be higher ups, and still did well in the tornaments the played in.
Your a good friend for bring that back topic back up.
Express is a business. Parents have to decide what works best for their kids. My son was getting skunked by our town PAL team when he was younger. He was always on the crap team so Express gave us the chance to get out there and play. He became so good that he started JV and moved up to Varsity Sophmore year. We live in a very competitive lacrosse town on the North Shore. Ultimately it became clear that Express favors the Chaminade kids and St Anthony's kids so it was time to go. He's now being recruited by top D3 AND D1 IVY schools playing for a different team. Believe me I am not preaching for EXPRESS. Its a good way to get your kid out there playing even if he's not on the A team. There are always options and parents need to do their homework and decide what works best for their kids.
Does anyone know if the Turtles are playing <Deleted> this Sunday?
7TH GRADE DIVISION
Doc's NYC
Northport
Palm Bay Hurricanes
Brotherhood
Prime Time 2018/2017
Tenacious Turtles
LI Outlaws
LI Express 2017 Crimi
LI Express 2017 Korwan
LI Jesters
Doc's NYC
Northport
Palm Bay Hurricanes
Brotherhood
Prime Time 2018/2017
Tenacious Turtles
LI Outlaws
LI Express 2017 Crimi
LI Express 2017 Korwan
LI Jesters
I have the schedule for Sunday if anyone needs it
how about 6th grade schedule
Originally Posted by laxlaxlax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know if the Turtles are playing in the <Deleted> this Sunday?
7TH GRADE DIVISION
Doc's NYC
Northport
Palm Bay Hurricanes
Brotherhood
Prime Time 2018/2017
Tenacious Turtles
LI Outlaws
LI Express 2017 Crimi
LI Express 2017 Korwan
LI Jesters
When you read what the Express did do their OWN KIDS this summer and what other parents have written, why on earth would you want your son to play for this for-profit business when there are better, cheaper alternatives.
Seriously, who ever heard of charging an outrageous fee like that for a TRYOUT?
Seriously, who ever heard of charging an outrageous fee like that for a TRYOUT?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you read what the Express did do their OWN KIDS this summer and what other parents have written, why on earth would you want your son to play for this for-profit business when there are better, cheaper alternatives.
Seriously, who ever heard of charging an outrageous fee like that for a TRYOUT?
Seriously, who ever heard of charging an outrageous fee like that for a TRYOUT?
you are a little late to bash express party and revisiting tryout fees is old and spent, Express is not the highest fee for tryouts or the most expensive team to play on,
on another note, my son's express team was put together in the middle of September - we have had 5 practices with our 6th scheduled this week - we have played six games and two scrimmages so far and we have 3 more tournaments scheduled for the fall - it may be expensive but I am getting value for my money, could not be any happier.
My suggestion is to go to the thread for your child's team and try to be as supportive and happy as you can be and stop questioning me for how I choose to spend my money or invest in my child's athletic future.
Originally Posted by CageSage
This tournament should have consulted with BOTC as several clubs in this age group (and immediately above and below) asked for tournament details for an event this weekend and nothing was on the BOTC calendar. As a result, about eight extra teams will not be playing this weekend. Bottom line is that there could have been more competition in this age group including at least one out of state club.
Dude- first off, they have 6 fields and all the fields are being used all day Sat. and Sunday, I doubt that they could have accommodated any additional teams and second tone it down with the "They Should have consulted with BOTC....." BOTC is a nice little web site for the local lacrosse scene but you are hardly the be all and end all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dude- first off, they have 6 fields and all the fields are being used all day Sat. and Sunday, I doubt that they could have accommodated any additional teams and second tone it down with the "They Should have consulted with BOTC....." BOTC is a nice little web site for the local lacrosse scene but you are hardly the be all and end all.
My son's Express team was also put together in September and we've heard very little, let alone have any practices, scrimmages or games.
The Turtles are playing the 7th grade division with Express, Outlaws, Jesters, Northport
I think that Express is a great team but I do have a complaint. I was personally asked if we were going to St. Anthony's and when I responded no, we never heard from them again. Makes you wonder.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son's Express team was also put together in September and we've heard very little, let alone have any practices, scrimmages or games.
Are you talking about summer teams- or Fall teams? Sorry- I am confused.
by removing all commercial references does that include removing all mentions of corporations that run these youth teams and sponsor your site? when you put up tryout dates that have a fee attached how is that not a commercial reference? you have a great site but please me consistent and not hypocritical.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
by removing all commercial references does that include removing all mentions of corporations that run these youth teams and sponsor your site? when you put up tryout dates that have a fee attached how is that not a commercial reference? you have a great site but please me consistent and not hypocritical.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
by removing all commercial references does that include removing all mentions of corporations that run these youth teams and sponsor your site? when you put up tryout dates that have a fee attached how is that not a commercial reference? you have a great site but please me consistent and not hypocritical.
"Edit Reason: Removed Commercial References" - what you meant to say was removed for commercial references from someone we are not making money off of. and the real reason is because you got called out on your arrogant statement "they should have consulted us" when you really meant they should paid us. forget who your sponsors are and be fair and informative.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
by removing all commercial references does that include removing all mentions of corporations that run these youth teams and sponsor your site? when you put up tryout dates that have a fee attached how is that not a commercial reference? you have a great site but please me consistent and not hypocritical.
"Edit Reason: Removed Commercial References" - what you meant to say was removed for commercial references from someone we are not making money off of. and the real reason is because you got called out on your arrogant statement "they should have consulted us" when you really meant they should paid us. forget who your sponsors are and be fair and informative.
The deleted statement made indicated in rather terse terms that the suggested tournament and the named sponsor were here "long before BOTC" and "did not need BOTC" to further their tournament. That statement is perfectly fine and we respect that perspective.
BOTC moderators did not do anything with this issue until we were specifically told that the tournament "did not need BOTC". We had left all of the information, including the advertisement, prior to being told that they "did not need BOTC". Our intention was to actually cover this tournament this weekend with results and team information as one of the first Fall season events. Instead, on-site coverage will launch with Thanksgiving weekend.
Thanks for writing; hopefully you now understand the full story.
Originally Posted by laxlaxlax
7TH GRADE DIVISION
Doc's NYC
Northport
Palm Bay Hurricanes
Brotherhood
Prime Time 2018/2017
Tenacious Turtles
LI Outlaws
LI Express 2017 Crimi
LI Express 2017 Korwan
LI Jesters
Doc's NYC
Northport
Palm Bay Hurricanes
Brotherhood
Prime Time 2018/2017
Tenacious Turtles
LI Outlaws
LI Express 2017 Crimi
LI Express 2017 Korwan
LI Jesters
Interesting. I've been noticing that since the summer, the turtles typically are playing their grade level and not up as they have traditional done. Any one know why?
I heard the turtles played in "B" division over the summer in Maryland. Does anyone really care anymore about this over-hyped, glorified Express team anymore. It appears the coachesm and parents are on more of an EGO trip than the kids that play. Remember....Good players are just that "good players". All the other nonsense that goes on is just that.....Nonsense
Half of the kids on the Turtles could be 2016 year grads based on birth year. Good thing those new USL cut off dates don't apply. My son played them last summmer and one of their dad's was talking about it. It's all about the win I guess.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard the turtles played in "B" division over the summer in Maryland. Does anyone really care anymore about this over-hyped, glorified Express team anymore. It appears the coachesm and parents are on more of an EGO trip than the kids that play. Remember....Good players are just that "good players". All the other nonsense that goes on is just that.....Nonsense
Should be interested to see how the 8th grade express teams handle them. I did notice last year in a few of the turltes games I saw that the year in age made a big difference in the size of the opponents they played and the turtles were literally getting man handled on the field.
The turtles are a talented team, they play hard and they practice weekly
They have 2016 graduating players (1998 birthdays)on the team. They have kids that cant play PAL football because of their age. I'm sure they will avoid any tournaments that would enforce age requirements. It's about putting pictures on the Express website.
I have a bud of mine whos son plays on the Turtles. They are a straight 7th grade team who played 8th grade lax at Farmingdale and destroyed every team including Northport Pro and the self proclaimed best team on LI Riptide 8th grade. I am pretty sure they dont avoid any team in their age group and play tourneys in 7th for safety of the kids, if that matters to anyone. I am glad my kid isnt on this team purely based on the target they have on their back due to parental animosity on sites like this towards a well coached and well oiled machine. Kudos to them!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have 2016 graduating players (1998 birthdays)on the team. They have kids that cant play PAL football because of their age. I'm sure they will avoid any tournaments that would enforce age requirements. It's about putting pictures on the Express website.
A 1998 b-day doesn't always mean a 2016 (8th grade) graduation. Some December b-days will be a 2017 graduation year. If they knowingly play 8th graders in the 7th grade age brackets, that's another story all together. I'll don't know much about them other than seeing the team play a few times. No doubt a talented team that practices year round.
well said, my son knows many of the kids on the team and they are all 7th graders. Sometimes credit needs to be given wether you like it or not. My sons express team is playing them Sunday and are looking forward to it.
Agreed, very talented team. Forget about them for a second and think of youth teams in general. Too often now,parents hold kids back (for one reason or another) and so their kids are the oldest in a particular grade. Definitely and advantage through PAL and U13, but most everyone catches up in the high school years and the extra year older is not as significant. This is probably a topic for a different thread.
The turtles are very talented, but are not very big. As they progress, let's see if all of the kids stay on the team, or they jettison some players for size. That will make their parents go nuts for sure.
Its time for Adults to stop bashing a group of very talented 12/13 year olds. Personally know 6 kids and their families on the team they are a 7th grade team. They played up in certain tournaments to have better competition.
Not sure if the parents will go nuts. I for one know its my kid on the field playing and not me. Its his ride and I am just a chauffeur and supporter. I work hard to afford any means of improving his skill sets. I will not push him to pick up a stick or go to practice...luckily I do not have to. I do understand that when and if the time comes my kid is no longer capable of playing for the team he is on, I then need to seek alternatives, which as the sport develops, are ever increasing. One team does not stay together forever. My experience with baseball proved that.
I believe the new US Lacrosse rule of Aug 31st birthday is fair and most LI club teams comply. NJ and PA base Kindergaten enrollment on the school year (Sept 1st). NY bases thiers on the calendar year (Dec 31st). Many NY parents with kids having Sept, Oct, Nov, and Dec birthdays start thier kids in Kindergarten based on the school year (Holding them back). If anything NY youth Lacrosse teams are at a disatvantage when playing out of state.
Can anyone provide some information and personal experiences with the Express girls' teams? Any info/comments would be appreciated.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone provide some information and personal experiences with the Express girls' teams? Any info/comments would be appreciated.
My daughter is a freshman in college she played for Express and her entire team is playing in college.Schools that are being attended by her team are Duke,Penn,Yale,Dartmouth,Georgetown,Maryland,Bucknell,American,Siena, Marist,Hofstra, That's just off the top of my head certainly a team worth considering.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter is a freshman in college she played for Express and her entire team is playing in college.Schools that are being attended by her team are Duke,Penn,Yale,Dartmouth,Georgetown,Maryland,Bucknell,American,Siena, Marist,Hofstra, That's just off the top of my head certainly a team worth considering.
Any child born In December would be born the previous year, as The cut off for Kindergarten is December 1st, However many kids born In September October and especially November either hold their kids back from Kindergarten or they end up repeating kindergarten, because they are only 4 at the start of Kindergarten, Ny Is one of the few states that sends Kindergarteners to school at four most states You Have to be 5 by September !st.
Therefore a lot of teams we verse in out of state tournaments would have many children born the previous year,compared to the express teams of Long Island That may only have a few.
Therefore a lot of teams we verse in out of state tournaments would have many children born the previous year,compared to the express teams of Long Island That may only have a few.
Any one hear anything (good, bad, etc.) about the Checkmate Sharks that were recently formed? Ran by the founder of Checkmate lacrosse and former Adelphi alumni.
For an early stage program seems to have had early success pulling in a few good kids that were dissatisfied with the cost, politics and overall experience of the larger programs. Quality guys running and coaching - I would take a look.
I haven't heard of the Checkmate Sharks, what age are they? My son played in the Lighthouse League on a free agent team and we played Gladiator Lacrosse. Anyone know anything about them? They were mostly 7th graders, but showed some skill.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I haven't heard of the Checkmate Sharks, what age are they? My son played in the Lighthouse League on a free agent team and we played Gladiator Lacrosse. Anyone know anything about them? They were mostly 7th graders, but showed some skill.
BOTC has been speaking with Bob Burns from the Gladiators and they might be thinking about expanding, but we do not have any further details. Their contact e-mail address is on their web site.
Some fun All-Long Island matchups coming up this weekend at the Fall Finale Classic in New Jersey. See the Tournaments Board for more details on all the games, schedules, and participating teams.
5th/6th Grade, Division A : LI Express 2018 Orange vs. LI Outlaws 2018, 10:30am, November 5th
5th/6th Grade, Division B : LI Express 2019 vs. LI Outlaws 2019, 10:30am, November 5th
7th/8th Grade, Division A : LI Express Orange vs. LI Outlaws 2016 Black
5th/6th Grade, Division A : LI Express 2018 Orange vs. LI Outlaws 2018, 10:30am, November 5th
5th/6th Grade, Division B : LI Express 2019 vs. LI Outlaws 2019, 10:30am, November 5th
7th/8th Grade, Division A : LI Express Orange vs. LI Outlaws 2016 Black
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone provide some information and personal experiences with the Express girls' teams? Any info/comments would be appreciated.
My daughter is a freshman in college she played for Express and her entire team is playing in college.Schools that are being attended by her team are Duke,Penn,Yale,Dartmouth,Georgetown,Maryland,Bucknell,American,Siena, Marist,Hofstra, That's just off the top of my head certainly a team worth considering.
Girls that will be seniors this year 2012 will be attending some of the following Schools Harvard,Brown Princeton, Georgetown,New Hampshire,Stony Brook,Catholic,American,Rutgers just to name a few there are more these are just the girls I know.
Regarding comments about age. All teams have kids born in the latter part of the year, remember the school cut off is December 1, therefore many parents around that age choose to hold their child back if born around then that is why USLacrosse has changed the age requirements for the divisions to August 31. See the Link below. As for the Turtles they have as many november 1998 as they do November 1999's so its not about age, its about ability.
http://www.uslacrosse.org/TopNav2Right/Events/2012USLRegionalChampionships/AgeRequirement.aspx
Regarding comments about "pictures on the website"? They play "up" very often...if it was about pix on the site wouldn't they always play their grade?
don't hate...appreciate.
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Regarding comments about "pictures on the website"? They play "up" very often...if it was about pix on the site wouldn't they always play their grade?
don't hate...appreciate.
To say that having kids with November 98 birtdays doesn't make a difference is absurd. They are almost a year older than most of the kids they are playing against. My son with an October 99 bday, will be a much better, stonger player a whole year from now. If you choose to hold your kid back for academic reasons, you're not fooling anyone in the area of sports. We all know it is a win/win situation.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Some fun All-Long Island matchups coming up this weekend at the Fall Finale Classic in New Jersey. See the Tournaments Board for more details on all the games, schedules, and participating teams.
5th/6th Grade, Division A : LI Express 2018 Orange vs. LI Outlaws 2018, 10:30am, November 5th
5th/6th Grade, Division B : LI Express 2019 vs. LI Outlaws 2019, 10:30am, November 5th
7th/8th Grade, Division A : LI Express Orange vs. LI Outlaws 2016 Black
5th/6th Grade, Division A : LI Express 2018 Orange vs. LI Outlaws 2018, 10:30am, November 5th
5th/6th Grade, Division B : LI Express 2019 vs. LI Outlaws 2019, 10:30am, November 5th
7th/8th Grade, Division A : LI Express Orange vs. LI Outlaws 2016 Black
Scores? Results?
Long Island Express 2018 Orange won their bracket it was a great job by all. Hats off to the Outlaws for continuing to take the face off even when the refs gave them the ball when they were down by 7 or more. Express only gave up two goals in four games! Defense was awesome.
I'm not trying to be argumentative and in fact I agree with you, my point is everyone is doing this especially in Maryland. Take a look at any Div 1 teams roster and look at the birthyear's of the freshman all of them are older than what would equal your son's age.
based on your son being a 1999/7th grader the equivalent for a collge Freshman would be 1993. See chart below:
1999/7th
1998/8th
1997/9th
1996/10th
1995/11th
1994/12th
1993/College freshman
Here is UNC Freshmans Birthyear directly from their website.
Jan/1992
Jan/1992
Feb/1992
Feb/1992
Mar/1992
Aug/1992
Sept/1992
Sept/1992
Oct/1992
Nov/1992
Mar/1993
They only have 1 1993 on the roster as a freshman!
based on your son being a 1999/7th grader the equivalent for a collge Freshman would be 1993. See chart below:
1999/7th
1998/8th
1997/9th
1996/10th
1995/11th
1994/12th
1993/College freshman
Here is UNC Freshmans Birthyear directly from their website.
Jan/1992
Jan/1992
Feb/1992
Feb/1992
Mar/1992
Aug/1992
Sept/1992
Sept/1992
Oct/1992
Nov/1992
Mar/1993
They only have 1 1993 on the roster as a freshman!
Originally Posted by laxmachine
I'm not trying to be argumentative and in fact I agree with you, my point is everyone is doing this especially in Maryland. Take a look at any Div 1 teams roster and look at the birthyear's of the freshman all of them are older than what would equal your son's age.
based on your son being a 1999/7th grader the equivalent for a collge Freshman would be 1993. See chart below:
1999/7th
1998/8th
1997/9th
1996/10th
1995/11th
1994/12th
1993/College freshman
Here is UNC Freshmans Birthyear directly from their website.
Jan/1992
Jan/1992
Feb/1992
Feb/1992
Mar/1992
Aug/1992
Sept/1992
Sept/1992
Oct/1992
Nov/1992
Mar/1993
They only have 1 1993 on the roster as a freshman!
Great post and very true!
based on your son being a 1999/7th grader the equivalent for a collge Freshman would be 1993. See chart below:
1999/7th
1998/8th
1997/9th
1996/10th
1995/11th
1994/12th
1993/College freshman
Here is UNC Freshmans Birthyear directly from their website.
Jan/1992
Jan/1992
Feb/1992
Feb/1992
Mar/1992
Aug/1992
Sept/1992
Sept/1992
Oct/1992
Nov/1992
Mar/1993
They only have 1 1993 on the roster as a freshman!
Great post and very true!
Originally Posted by laxmachine
I'm not trying to be argumentative and in fact I agree with you, my point is everyone is doing this especially in Maryland. Take a look at any Div 1 teams roster and look at the birthyear's of the freshman all of them are older than what would equal your son's age.
based on your son being a 1999/7th grader the equivalent for a collge Freshman would be 1993. See chart below:
1999/7th
1998/8th
1997/9th
1996/10th
1995/11th
1994/12th
1993/College freshman
Here is UNC Freshmans Birthyear directly from their website.
Jan/1992
Jan/1992
Feb/1992
Feb/1992
Mar/1992
Aug/1992
Sept/1992
Sept/1992
Oct/1992
Nov/1992
Mar/1993
They only have 1 1993 on the roster as a freshman!
based on your son being a 1999/7th grader the equivalent for a collge Freshman would be 1993. See chart below:
1999/7th
1998/8th
1997/9th
1996/10th
1995/11th
1994/12th
1993/College freshman
Here is UNC Freshmans Birthyear directly from their website.
Jan/1992
Jan/1992
Feb/1992
Feb/1992
Mar/1992
Aug/1992
Sept/1992
Sept/1992
Oct/1992
Nov/1992
Mar/1993
They only have 1 1993 on the roster as a freshman!
please confirm where you goit this, UNC I believe UNC web site is still showing last years roster - an example is Billy Bitter listed as a Freshman and born in Jan 1992 is now a Sophomore and as a '92 he is in the "correct" grade
to correct a post made in error - that is the 2012 roster and it is Jimmy Bitter - and he is a freshman - sorry
Is there anyone here who is a parent of a kid on the Express team going to the NPYLL tournament this weekend?
Yes why?
that's Jimmy Bitter not Billy. Jimmy is a 2011 graduate and a current freshman. PLease see the link.
http://www.tarheelblue.com/sports/m-lacros/mtt/unc-m-lacros-mtt.html
http:/
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes why?
Hello. Can you email me at laxparent@mail.com? I promise you I am not going to spam you or disparage the Express. Since you guys are going to the NPYLL Fall Fest tournament, I thought you might be interested in something. It's not gossip or anything related to the tournament or teams.
Thanks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes why?
Hello. Can you email me at laxparent@mail.com? I promise you I am not going to spam you or disparage the Express. Since you guys are going to the NPYLL Fall Fest tournament, I thought you might be interested in something. It's not gossip or anything related to the tournament or teams.
Thanks.
Just post it here if it is an interesting point
It's not an interesting point or anything. Just something intended for a parent of the Express team that is going to this tournament.
Again, please email me at laxparent@mail.com (note - mail.com, not gmail.com). Thanks!
Again, please email me at laxparent@mail.com (note - mail.com, not gmail.com). Thanks!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's not an interesting point or anything. Just something intended for a parent of the Express team that is going to this tournament.
Again, please email me at laxparent@mail.com (note - mail.com, not gmail.com). Thanks!
Again, please email me at laxparent@mail.com (note - mail.com, not gmail.com). Thanks!
Come on! Tell us man!
Congratulations to LI Express 2018 Orange on winning this past weekend at the Skulls and Bones tournament at the Greenvale School.Great job players and coaches!
Congratulations to LI Express 2017 Korwin Team, they won Skull and Bones tournament this past weekend. Well done boys!
Is it really just about winning tournaments and getting pictures on the website. Express 2018 Orange is a good team, but how is winning 12-0 every game going to make our boys better? I hear 91 orange (2018) plays up every tournament. Is it really about winning? Or is it about having good competitive games?
Is this the 2017 Blue team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it really just about winning tournaments and getting pictures on the website. Express 2018 Orange is a good team, but how is winning 12-0 every game going to make our boys better? I hear 91 orange (2018) plays up every tournament. Is it really about winning? Or is it about having good competitive games?
91 Orange played up in 1 maybe 2 tourneys last year. Good team, but they needed to get a couple easy wins for the website too!
2018 Express did, by far, the least competitive tournaments last year.
A classic last summer was traveling a few hours into PA to destroy a few teams instead of playing at a competitive tournament, LI Laxfest, right in their own backyard. Come on already.
This Fall playing against 6th grade town teams is really going to challenge the kids. Only ones getting any benefit from that is the kids on the town teams that have to actually work.
Lets not forget to mention the LACK of sportsmanship. Hey everybody we can score 40 plus goals in a game against younger kids and town teams. Weeeeeeeeeeeee. I'm sorry but if my son kept shooting I would be pissed. Teach the kids respect for the game and class.
Very surprised they actually went to Trilax.
A classic last summer was traveling a few hours into PA to destroy a few teams instead of playing at a competitive tournament, LI Laxfest, right in their own backyard. Come on already.
This Fall playing against 6th grade town teams is really going to challenge the kids. Only ones getting any benefit from that is the kids on the town teams that have to actually work.
Lets not forget to mention the LACK of sportsmanship. Hey everybody we can score 40 plus goals in a game against younger kids and town teams. Weeeeeeeeeeeee. I'm sorry but if my son kept shooting I would be pissed. Teach the kids respect for the game and class.
Very surprised they actually went to Trilax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2018 Express did, by far, the least competitive tournaments last year.
A classic last summer was traveling a few hours into PA to destroy a few teams instead of playing at a competitive tournament, LI Laxfest, right in their own backyard. Come on already.
This Fall playing against 6th grade town teams is really going to challenge the kids. Only ones getting any benefit from that is the kids on the town teams that have to actually work.
Lets not forget to mention the LACK of sportsmanship. Hey everybody we can score 40 plus goals in a game against younger kids and town teams. Weeeeeeeeeeeee. I'm sorry but if my son kept shooting I would be pissed. Teach the kids respect for the game and class.
Very surprised they actually went to Trilax.
A classic last summer was traveling a few hours into PA to destroy a few teams instead of playing at a competitive tournament, LI Laxfest, right in their own backyard. Come on already.
This Fall playing against 6th grade town teams is really going to challenge the kids. Only ones getting any benefit from that is the kids on the town teams that have to actually work.
Lets not forget to mention the LACK of sportsmanship. Hey everybody we can score 40 plus goals in a game against younger kids and town teams. Weeeeeeeeeeeee. I'm sorry but if my son kept shooting I would be pissed. Teach the kids respect for the game and class.
Very surprised they actually went to Trilax.
point well taken, this is why Express players that stay in the program never develop into good players, never play in high school and never sign with good colleges, it is really a wonder how they can even get enough kids in an age to field a team, they suck - if you have a good 2018 team, please contact them and set up a game so your team can teach them a lesson.
It's true they have always produced great players but it seems as though their younger teams are not as good as they used to be.
I never heard of them doing such garbage tournaments in the past. They always seemed to challenge the kids. Now it just seems like winning anything to throw pictures on the website to attract people. Just call it as I see it.
My children have been involved with the program for years.
They used to be the only game in town. Not anymore!
I never heard of them doing such garbage tournaments in the past. They always seemed to challenge the kids. Now it just seems like winning anything to throw pictures on the website to attract people. Just call it as I see it.
My children have been involved with the program for years.
They used to be the only game in town. Not anymore!
OMG When did this site turn into express bashing 101 site. For anyone to say that the express kids growing up don't go to good colleges or play good lacrosse is absurd. Sounds like they kicked your but and your jealous of a good program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OMG When did this site turn into express bashing 101 site. For anyone to say that the express kids growing up don't go to good colleges or play good lacrosse is absurd. Sounds like they kicked your but and your jealous of a good program.
sarcasm (ˈsɑːkzəm)
1. mocking, contemptuous, or ironic language intended to convey scorn or insult
the post was obviously (or so I thought) sarcastic as it is obvious the talent that comes out of the express program year after year
The comment about Express players not being that good was sarcastic.
Read the whole post next time. I didn't even write it but its easy to figure out.
Read the whole post next time. I didn't even write it but its easy to figure out.
totally agree
That is some BS man. Mike chanenchuck coached at least two blue teams in the last summer season and when your on the blue or any other color you get alot of time devoted to you by the coach. You can tell by just watching.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to LI Express 2018 Orange on winning this past weekend at the Skulls and Bones tournament at the Greenvale School.Great job players and coaches!
they played 5/6 grade division right! come on! do what 2018 orange team 91 does they have been playing all u13 except 1 and another played 7/8.
-note they are 6 grade.
WoW I wonder which 91 Orange parent this could be doing all the bashing??? Let me guess...by the way 2018 Express Orange players did a great job playing some great 7th/8th grade(with a few 9th graders thrown in) competition today and won 2 and lost 1! Stop the hating,you made a choice be happy for your child and move on...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to LI Express 2018 Orange on winning this past weekend at the Skulls and Bones tournament at the Greenvale School.Great job players and coaches!
they played 5/6 grade division right! come on! do what 2018 orange team 91 does they have been playing all u13 except 1 and another played 7/8.
-note they are 6 grade.
has this team played any of the express 2017 teams? If they can beat any of them we'll talk.
2018 Express Orange did beat 2017 Orange at the OBLL Turkey Shootout it was a great competitive game played by all the kids.
can someone tell me what the differnce is between Express Orange and Blue girls teams? is one team an "A" team?
Are all the tryouts over? when do they post rosters?
MY son now 14 and a maybe just a little big for his age now,but went through a very large growth spurt at age 11 and looked 13, I actually had a parent run after us after a game accusing us of playing our son down, some kids are bigger than others and people should not assume a kid is older just because he looks older.
I think most of these parents that have a problem with this have small boys, no matter what the new August 31st rule is there will always be players almost a year older as there are 12 months in a year.its very petty really,
I think most of these parents that have a problem with this have small boys, no matter what the new August 31st rule is there will always be players almost a year older as there are 12 months in a year.its very petty really,
They are over for 2014,but not 2013, It typically takes about a week after final try outs to receive notice about team placement, I think most kids make a team, I think its more about placement.
Express just tweeted that their 2016 Orange (i think thats the baracuda group?) team beat all the teams at the Duke Invitational. They won a couple of games by 7 goals...tough comp at that tournament.
Just curious and I was one of those parents. Were there any refunds provided for any of the players placed on teams for the turkey shootout? My Son plays defense and his team was a combo team we had at least 10 longpoles on our team for 75 dollars per player not enough time in a game to please that many kids... Just wondering because my wife was told some would get refund.
Any word on Express 2014 team selections?
It's been more than two weeks, anybody?
Is there a site that lists the teams in this tournament and/or results?
Maybe you missed an email we heard a week ago what color 2014 team my son made and deposit was due last Friday
Emails were sent out last week there were however 130 boys trying out and only 3 teams of 24 made up ,so over 50 boys may not have made a team,unless maybe they are adding a fourth team,they may be doing teams in order of ability to see who actually pays as we only had 24 hours to do so or spot was given to another kid
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's been more than two weeks, anybody?
Yes emails went out last wednesday
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Emails were sent out last week there were however 130 boys trying out and only 3 teams of 24 made up ,so over 50 boys may not have made a team,unless maybe they are adding a fourth team,they may be doing teams in order of ability to see who actually pays as we only had 24 hours to do so or spot was given to another kid
Correction 48 hours not 24
Congratulations to the LI Express 6th Grade Orange and 8th Grade Orange for winning the Winter National Tournament in NJ last weekand earned a spot to play at halftime of the Bi City Classic in April at the MetLife stadium.
Congratulations to LI Express Turtles team for winning in Tampa FL this weekend at the Dicks tournament. Nice job representing LI Express and Long Island lacrosse!!!
Congratulations to LI Express Turtles team for winning in Tampa FL this weekend at the Dicks tournament. Nice job representing LI Express and Long Island lacrosse!!!
This is getting out of control, all this money and we get nothing! my sons team hardly ever practices, what is going on here. we left the outlaws for this what a travesty!
which team are you on? i know some teams play more but there is additional costs involved. My son is on the Korwin team and i could not be happier (my son loves it)
Clearly on the wrong one practice tops per week and no indoor league its glorified town ball! We played in one winter tournament and got embarrassed vs another travel team very disappointed, maybe thats why they want the money up front. I feel ripped off! Our coach coaches another express team as well problem is our team is in shambles.
Your sons team is a cash team. Its all about the $ at this point. The problem is that we keep paying the money. If your not on Orange the LI Express is just looking for the money. I have to say that they have a nice business model. Send your kid to public school and join another organization.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your sons team is a cash team. Its all about the $ at this point. The problem is that we keep paying the money. If your not on Orange the LI Express is just looking for the money. I have to say that they have a nice business model. Send your kid to public school and join another organization.
Really? It's about the $$? Well isn't every club about making $$? Isn't youth lax clubs a business? Aren't business SUPPOSE to try to MAKE $$$$?!!? Wake up son! Pay the $$ if your kid is LEARNING the proper way to pay lax! A way that u might not know how to teach your kid yourself..,therefore u PAY someone like the Express Directors. Trust me, Express is NOT only about $$!
How can you explain our coach NEVER practicing or hardly ever practicing No leagues then puts our kids in a tournament setting them up for failure (getting embarrassed)!! He coaches his other sons team (which cant even wear express colors) and thats all he cares about! We have had more payments then practices! Just find a different coach if you dont have the time. $$uggh
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your sons team is a cash team. Its all about the $ at this point. The problem is that we keep paying the money. If your not on Orange the LI Express is just looking for the money. I have to say that they have a nice business model. Send your kid to public school and join another organization.
Really? It's about the $$? Well isn't every club about making $$? Isn't youth lax clubs a business? Aren't business SUPPOSE to try to MAKE $$$$?!!? Wake up son! Pay the $$ if your kid is LEARNING the proper way to pay lax! A way that u might not know how to teach your kid yourself..,therefore u PAY someone like the Express Directors. Trust me, Express is NOT only about $$!
Not every club is a business. There are clubs that don't make money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clearly on the wrong one practice tops per week and no indoor league its glorified town ball! We played in one winter tournament and got embarrassed vs another travel team very disappointed, maybe thats why they want the money up front. I feel ripped off! Our coach coaches another express team as well problem is our team is in shambles.
ADVICE!!! If your team is in a shambles, contact Mike Chanenchuk directly and i guarantee he fixes it!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your sons team is a cash team. Its all about the $ at this point. The problem is that we keep paying the money. If your not on Orange the LI Express is just looking for the money. I have to say that they have a nice business model. Send your kid to public school and join another organization.
Really? It's about the $$? Well isn't every club about making $$? Isn't youth lax clubs a business? Aren't business SUPPOSE to try to MAKE $$$$?!!? Wake up son! Pay the $$ if your kid is LEARNING the proper way to pay lax! A way that u might not know how to teach your kid yourself..,therefore u PAY someone like the Express Directors. Trust me, Express is NOT only about $$!
Not every club is a business. There are clubs that don't make money.
Ok, fair enough. So, if not every club makes $$? How good is that club? Who is COACHING those "freebie" clubs? You get what u pay for.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clearly on the wrong one practice tops per week and no indoor league its glorified town ball! We played in one winter tournament and got embarrassed vs another travel team very disappointed, maybe thats why they want the money up front. I feel ripped off! Our coach coaches another express team as well problem is our team is in shambles.
ADVICE!!! If your team is in a shambles, contact Mike Chanenchuk directly and i guarantee he fixes it!
I have no doubt that he will fix it, that being said I know that the teams you make and payments made are for Summer 2012 and practices for that do no start untill May. We were offered additional fall and winter programs and they were at an additional cost and strictly voluntary. This is my first year with Express and my son and I could not be happier.
No doubt we have some 91 parents claiming to be Express parents. Just curious, Is it your week to go over to Joe's house and clean his bathrooms. Keep kissing his butt. Do you really think he cares about your sons skills more than he does getting his picture posted on the website with his finger in the air. Think about it..........
So why are some teams practicing more than others!!?? ONCE A WEEK with no winter leagues you think is ok? This has NOTHING to do with 91 people! Sounds like we are on the same team! This is ok with you? Its not for me
HI BOBBY we knew it was you!! How have you been!
wow! there couldn't be an express family having a bad experience, could there? It's this arrogant attitude that typifies the express experience. This program is just a cash and publicity grab for most families. Just telling it like it is!
You should really read what you're writing. You're just making a fool of yourself.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No doubt we have some 91 parents claiming to be Express parents. Just curious, Is it your week to go over to Joe's house and clean his bathrooms. Keep kissing his butt. Do you really think he cares about your sons skills more than he does getting his picture posted on the website with his finger in the air. Think about it..........
As with any team some are happy and some are not.The Express program was very clear about saying the team your son made is a summer travel team.There is additional training sessions,practices,tournaments,winter leagues available to all at additional cost. Which is necessarry and expected to pay fees for fields and entry registration fees. If you are not happy contact a director all info is on the website and they will help you. My child is on a orange team and we get the same amount of practices right now as everyone else. We do have other things available to do just like you at additional cost. We even have 91 players paying to come to Express training sessions because it is avialble to anyone that is interested in learning and training. So to those that want it there is more than enough available just ask...
can anybody explain NPYLL- Express is playing in? are all games in Balt.? is there going to be a northern Div.?
thanks
thanks
saw a tweet last night on 91's twitter. It was promoting the success of one of their COACHES in NLL! I also follow Express twitter (my kid is Exp player) where their twitter constantly promotes their PLAYER accomplishments. BIG difference in the mindset of the two clubs in the statement I just typed.
Coaching ALWAYS ALWAYS matters, Funny thing is your following them. 91 has only been around 3-4 years so of course they wont have as many older player accomplishments. duhh. Remember who ever is coaching your kid is all that matters. As someone whos kids are long through this process. If your happy stay happy. I always wanted quality people coaching my boys. People who can show them and tell them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Coaching ALWAYS ALWAYS matters, Funny thing is your following them. 91 has only been around 3-4 years so of course they wont have as many older player accomplishments. duhh. Remember who ever is coaching your kid is all that matters. As someone whos kids are long through this process. If your happy stay happy. I always wanted quality people coaching my boys. People who can show them and tell them.
why is it funny I follow 91 on twitter? We are very happy with our kids with Express. So why is whom i choose to follow on twitter funny?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Coaching ALWAYS ALWAYS matters, Funny thing is your following them. 91 has only been around 3-4 years so of course they wont have as many older player accomplishments. duhh. Remember who ever is coaching your kid is all that matters. As someone whos kids are long through this process. If your happy stay happy. I always wanted quality people coaching my boys. People who can show them and tell them.
why is it funny I follow 91 on twitter? We are very happy with our kids with Express. So why is whom i choose to follow on twitter funny?
I gueess you missed all the other tweets tehn.
Who are the Piranhas?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
saw a tweet last night on 91's twitter. It was promoting the success of one of their COACHES in NLL! I also follow Express twitter (my kid is Exp player) where their twitter constantly promotes their PLAYER accomplishments. BIG difference in the mindset of the two clubs in the statement I just typed.
Don't have a child on either team, but have no problem with this at all. You want your kids to be successful and your coaches to be accomplished as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the Piranhas?
They are one of the 2017 Express Orange Teams (Korwin)
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the Piranhas?
They are one of the 2017 Express Orange Teams (Korwin)
Thanks. I guess the express teams all have nicknames these days.
They are the white team. turtles are orange. Coach mac is blue team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can anybody explain NPYLL- Express is playing in? are all games in Balt.? is there going to be a northern Div.?
thanks
thanks
I would guess Express cut a deal with them where they can play 2 or 3 games in a day so they are only making a few trips a year vs. a trip every weekend. You can find the NPYLL on the web if you need more info about the league.
They seem to have a few good teams there along with the not so good teams. Just like any other league. Don't know the reasoning behind it.
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the Piranhas?
They are one of the 2017 Express Orange Teams (Korwin)
Korwins team is the piranhas...NOT orange team. McManus team is Orange team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the Piranhas?
They are one of the 2017 Express Orange Teams (Korwin)
Korwins team is the piranhas...NOT orange team. McManus team is Orange team.
Both teams are orange, check the website under tournament winners. Both teams are the "a" teams
If that makes every one feel better, they are both orange. The turtles are white.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are the white team. turtles are orange. Coach mac is blue team.
LMAO you have absolutely NO clue on what your talking about.
The Turtles are the Turtles, they are NOT the Orange team.
McManus team is the Orange Team, NOT the blue team.
Korwans team was added as another A level team, so they are far from a white team
Do some research before you post your nonsense
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are the white team. turtles are orange. Coach mac is blue team.
LMAO you have absolutely NO clue on what your talking about.
The Turtles are the Turtles, they are NOT the Orange team.
McManus team is the Orange Team, NOT the blue team.
Korwans team was added as another A level team, so they are far from a white team
Do some research before you post your nonsense
Thanks for correcting that knucklehead! Clueless.
three teams at the same age group and they are AA teams? Turtles beat mcmanus and corwin every time. if they were all the same level, whatever you want to call it, they would each take turns winning. and if mcmanus or corwin manage to recruit a really good player then the turtles will poach him.
ps please dont forget to buy your new helmets and gloves this yr
ps please dont forget to buy your new helmets and gloves this yr
2017 Turtles (Express)- (AA) team, we (those that are familiar with local 2017) all know this and accept them as a high performing group of kids through, at least, this year.
2017 Express McManus and Korwan (not corwin)- (A) teams, I will speak to what I know, and the potential is there to do well, time will tell as there are many new players. They almost never play Turtles. Korwan has never played Turtles (fact). Many kids that play for a team actually elect to play for that specific team.
2017 Express Crimson- (B)team
Boys and men are no different, they all like new toys. Like an adult never wanted a new driver to hit the ball straight. Let the kids get whatever they want if it makes THEM happy.
All clear??
2017 Express McManus and Korwan (not corwin)- (A) teams, I will speak to what I know, and the potential is there to do well, time will tell as there are many new players. They almost never play Turtles. Korwan has never played Turtles (fact). Many kids that play for a team actually elect to play for that specific team.
2017 Express Crimson- (B)team
Boys and men are no different, they all like new toys. Like an adult never wanted a new driver to hit the ball straight. Let the kids get whatever they want if it makes THEM happy.
All clear??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
three teams at the same age group and they are AA teams? Turtles beat mcmanus and corwin every time. if they were all the same level, whatever you want to call it, they would each take turns winning. and if mcmanus or corwin manage to recruit a really good player then the turtles will poach him.
ps please dont forget to buy your new helmets and gloves this yr
ps please dont forget to buy your new helmets and gloves this yr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
three teams at the same age group and they are AA teams? Turtles beat mcmanus and corwin every time. if they were all the same level, whatever you want to call it, they would each take turns winning. and if mcmanus or corwin manage to recruit a really good player then the turtles will poach him.
ps please dont forget to buy your new helmets and gloves this yr
ps please dont forget to buy your new helmets and gloves this yr
Another rather silly post
Everyone that has a kid playing at the 2017 age group knows the Turtles are in a league of their own, Noone on this board has stated that either McManus or Korwans teams can compete with the turtles at this point.
Korwans team is a new group of very talented kids who will be playing at the A level this spring and summer. I can tell you that they will definitely be a tough out for anyone at the A level.
McManus has a solid , talented group as well.
McManus and Korwan have A level teams, case closed. The Turtles are in a whole different stratosphere, but don't think for a second that doesn't come with a price.
As far as helmets and gloves. Who really cares?
Very good and accurate assessment
What Happened when MacManus played the Turtles last year, I heard one of the games was close.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What Happened when MacManus played the Turtles last year, I heard one of the games was close.
I wasnt there but heard that McManus played them in the finals of a tourney last year..Shut down their top scorers. It was a real good game from what I heard. Its tough for mcmanus or Korwin, they get the best players taken by you know who..
Sadly enough this is very true, and a blind eye is turned to this, my sons team has had friends taken. It is bad enough people from other clubs doing this but in our own backyard??!!
Is that Team still in place, maybe they got better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What Happened when MacManus played the Turtles last year, I heard one of the games was close.
I wasnt there but heard that McManus played them in the finals of a tourney last year..Shut down their top scorers. It was a real good game from what I heard. Its tough for mcmanus or Korwin, they get the best players taken by you know who..
The game was a semifinal at Summer Sizzle. Score was 5-2 with 10 seconds left after a rediculous call by stripes. Final score was 5-3.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What Happened when MacManus played the Turtles last year, I heard one of the games was close.
I wasnt there but heard that McManus played them in the finals of a tourney last year..Shut down their top scorers. It was a real good game from what I heard. Its tough for mcmanus or Korwin, they get the best players taken by you know who..
1-Turtles didn't take ANYONE from McManus this year! Not one player.
2-Turtles didn't take ANYONE from Korwin this year! Not one player
(so your "best players get taken by you know who" comment is wrong)
3-McManus has half of a brand new team but did get a few 91 Orange players that are on that team now and several other good players from other teams.
4-Big losses for McManus is a very good F/O guy (went to a different club) and lost goalie. Attack & Defense (with new additions) is extremely solid. Still has two of his top middies and picked up two other big fast middies. So not really sure why they aren't winning.
5-The "lets blame the Turtles" line is such BS, coach the kids up & worry about whats going on in your OWN yard.
I was there it was 5-2 in a 30 minute running time game. it was 5-1 and they scored with 10 seconds left. I think McManus' team scored the first goal of the game also.
who True Blue? how many guys left Mcmanus last year...let's face the facts, players aren't getting taken they are leaving.
If you are referring to the term "poaching" its simply ridiculous...every team is looking for the best players. There are no rules here unless you would like to make them up and post them on the site for all to agree. Every parent has the opportunity to say yes or no to any offer made to them about where there son may play. No one forces any parent or player to play on a team it is an offer that is entended either after a tryout or when an opening happens. Its a free country and as far as I know no club has a policy that allows them the move players without there consent. So enough with poaching, generally speaking most people leave the team they were on for a better opportunity just like you would do with your job or any other chance to better yourself or your family.
I'm pretty sure every club team tries to have a AA team and a few other teams that boys should be able to move up to fluidly as they get better. Which by the way it is communicated clearly to all involved. People should be thrilled for boys that earn the right to make a better team. It will happen more and more as they get older, embrace their success.
Not every club has AA and A ect. fl$ has one team per grade and that is how they choose to do it and it seems to work for them, Express has 3-4 per grade and that seems to work for them - as for the poaching, my son left an organization that we were very happy with because he wanted to tryout for a better team and play against better competition - He made the top team in his age group and we decided to let him try it even thought it was a lot more money and time commitment - I am sure people from his old team would consider that poaching but we were never approached by anyone asking us to come to the express - this was something my son wanted on his own.
You seem a little sensitive about the topic????
Turtles in Another stratosphere?? Wow !! I will gen-u-flect the next time i am in their presence. 91 with their "big middies" will beat them this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles in Another stratosphere?? Wow !! I will gen-u-flect the next time i am in their presence. 91 with their "big middies" will beat them this year.
blahhhh...
91 added ONE let me repeat that ONE new big middie. Turtles have nothing to worry about in their age group. 91 should worry about the other teams like True Blue and the 2 Express groups.
You seem to be very accurate and educated on this situation. I think most of these people are referring to Kids leaving in prior years. The Turtles work harder than any other Team. When another Team dedicates the time to practice and train like the Turtles do, they will see some of the same results.
Parents should not write checks that their kids can't cash, its not fair to the kids that generally respect and enjoy one another to create this type of challenges and animosity. I have never seen a 91 kid and Express kid or whoever show any ill will toward each other...only the parents do that.
Parents should stay out of it and let the kids play and enjoy the game without creating this atmosphere of hate.
Parents should stay out of it and let the kids play and enjoy the game without creating this atmosphere of hate.
Have to disagree, a "Hills" player said some disparaging remarks to my son just last summer. A big reason why our son does not want to be a part of "91." But you are correct about one thing, this player must of heard parents complaining, it was what he it taught and heard. Parents are a big problem in any organization, especially the HILLS parents. The kid never appologized for his cruel words, but his father and the coaches did.
Originally Posted by Laxinator
Have to disagree, a "Hills" player said some disparaging remarks to my son just last summer. A big reason why our son does not want to be a part of "91." But you are correct about one thing, this player must of heard parents complaining, it was what he it taught and heard. Parents are a big problem in any organization, especially the HILLS parents. The kid never appologized for his cruel words, but his father and the coaches did.
I don't think it's fair to have the words of one person taint your opinion of the 91 organization or Hills parents/player. However, I do understand that it is human nature.
My son has played with and against many Hills players over the last few years, he hasn't found one yet he didn't like. I can say the same for the parents.
you hit it on the head Laxinator. My son played 91 last year and our team, which came over from a different organization was then flooded with Hills kids and parents and totally went to junk. Everyone not from Hills left and did not return this year.
The attitude and the infighting that the attitudes brought was not worth it nor did we want to be associated with it. At the end of the season, my son turned to me and said "dad, i do not want to play for 91 ever again." That was enough for me and that came from an 11 year old.
The attitude and the infighting that the attitudes brought was not worth it nor did we want to be associated with it. At the end of the season, my son turned to me and said "dad, i do not want to play for 91 ever again." That was enough for me and that came from an 11 year old.
So sad, really don't why those Hills people act the way they do, but it has a trickle down affect on their children. They have a great program over there at the HILLS why don't they just do their own thing. They are used to running the show, and for some reason everyone caters to them. My children would never treat another human being the way this child did. I agree we are staying far away from Team91. They can have all those Hills peeps
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles in Another stratosphere?? Wow !! I will gen-u-flect the next time i am in their presence. 91 with their "big middies" will beat them this year.
The Turtles will smack the 91 A team around like they always do. 91 barely beat McManus team in the fall and 91 had a few 8th graders with em.
I dont understand everyones hostility towards the Turtles. They are an extremely good lacrosse team that seemingly work very hard at what they do. They strive for excellence and in a world filled with mediocrity I dont see anything wrong with it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So sad, really don't why those Hills people act the way they do, but it has a trickle down affect on their children. They have a great program over there at the HILLS why don't they just do their own thing. They are used to running the show, and for some reason everyone caters to them. My children would never treat another human being the way this child did. I agree we are staying far away from Team91. They can have all those Hills peeps
No one seems to like them Hills folks. Seems that same attitude carries over to 91, people seem to dislike them as well
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents should not write checks that their kids can't cash, its not fair to the kids that generally respect and enjoy one another to create this type of challenges and animosity. I have never seen a 91 kid and Express kid or whoever show any ill will toward each other...only the parents do that.
Parents should stay out of it and let the kids play and enjoy the game without creating this atmosphere of hate.
Parents should stay out of it and let the kids play and enjoy the game without creating this atmosphere of hate.
Have to disagree with you here. Kids are not immune to disliking one another and I have already seen some rivalries at this age group. I agree with you that the Parents do add fuel to the fire, but the boys are getting to the point where they develop rivalries that spill over off the field as well.
Oh brother. How did yhe koolaid taste. JM and 91 are ready to get into the stratusphere. Turtles will lose the faceoff battle against the big guys. Looks like the turtles will have to share the rarified air.
Again, Unless this is JM talking...you should keep quiet. Let the the players speak for themselves and stop the nonsense. Notice you dont see anyone on this site representing the Turtles saysin they are the best...they let the boys play. That's what matters.
What happens here is that people read this stuff, create an unnecessary conflict while hiding behind their computers and then send the kids out onto the field to battle it out.
Unless you are the coach of the team or a player.
What happens here is that people read this stuff, create an unnecessary conflict while hiding behind their computers and then send the kids out onto the field to battle it out.
Unless you are the coach of the team or a player.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Turtles ... strive for excellence and in a world filled with mediocrity
Hyperbole much? You realize you are talking about 12-13 year olds, right? Good Lord - get a grip.
If you are from 91 ask yourself this question. Who didn't 91 Orange play in the last session of indoor? What other team was in there?
You played us (Three village) twice yet you didn't play another team that happened to win all their games? Interesting.
Figure it out yet?
HINT: The were Red and Blue and a few of them wore Purple helmets.
You played us (Three village) twice yet you didn't play another team that happened to win all their games? Interesting.
Figure it out yet?
HINT: The were Red and Blue and a few of them wore Purple helmets.
MY kid is on a orange 2017 team he is very happy. He looks forward to playing the Turtles because he respects them, he thinks they are great the way they pass,shoot,faceoff, play defense.He wants to be on the Turtles will it happen most likely not, but if that motivates him to do the side work to become a better player nonething wrong with that.Do I believe the Turtle kids are the best 21 kids on long island no.but they are the team to beat.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]
The Turtles ... strive for excellence and in a world filled with mediocrity
The Turtles ... strive for excellence and in a world filled with mediocrity
Hyperbole much? You realize you are talking about 12-13 year olds, right? Good Lord - get a grip.
Say what you want, but take a look at those Turtle kids in 5 years from now, I can almost guarantee you a large majority of them will be playing this game at the next level. They are learning the value of hard work, dedication and teamwork, what's the problem with that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are from 91 ask yourself this question. Who didn't 91 Orange play in the last session of indoor? What other team was in there?
You played us (Three village) twice yet you didn't play another team that happened to win all their games? Interesting.
Figure it out yet?
HINT: The were Red and Blue and a few of them wore Purple helmets.
LMAO, yeah JM doesn't like losing to town teams, thats for sure.
You played us (Three village) twice yet you didn't play another team that happened to win all their games? Interesting.
Figure it out yet?
HINT: The were Red and Blue and a few of them wore Purple helmets.
LMAO, yeah JM doesn't like losing to town teams, thats for sure.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MY kid is on a orange 2017 team he is very happy. He looks forward to playing the Turtles because he respects them, he thinks they are great the way they pass,shoot,faceoff, play defense.He wants to be on the Turtles will it happen most likely not, but if that motivates him to do the side work to become a better player nonething wrong with that.Do I believe the Turtle kids are the best 21 kids on long island no.but they are the team to beat.
Mostly my son wants to be a turtle to get one of those uniforms, Lol
Can't wait 'til spring/summer when all this talk will be put to bed and the teams will settle this on the field.
Good recap. You know your facts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh brother. How did yhe koolaid taste. JM and 91 are ready to get into the stratusphere. Turtles will lose the faceoff battle against the big guys. Looks like the turtles will have to share the rarified air.
The best "Big guy" faceoff man is playing for True Blue next best is with the Gladiators and already has played for the Turtles in Florida so they seem to have addressed their lack of size at the faceoff dot.
Having watched the Turtles play over the last few years, I appreciate that they function extremely well as a TEAM. They should, they have the commitment, time, and full resources to excel as a TEAM. Most teams, even the "A" teams ,are not as fortunate or able to give this commitment at this time. Potentially a reason they do not share the "stratosphere". They do have my respect for they accomplish as young kids.
Having watched them in tryouts over the last few years(yes, they are always there), I appreciate that they are individual boys. Some have great skill, others maybe less. I have witnessed many players at tryouts out perform individual Turtle players in various drills. Individual boys have skill that is on par with Turtle players. The Turtles excel as a TEAM. I respect all kids that push themselves to play their best.
I wouldn't be surprised if Many Turtles players play at the next level. I also wouldn't be surprised if many "other" players out perform individuals over the next few years and make names or TEAM associations forgetable. They are 12, time, size, maintained commitment, and maturity will decide much. I wish all our kids the best of luck in accomplishing their goals.
Mediocre? Let's say my son plays lacrosse, and other sports for that matter. Let's say he plays on an "A" team and contributes each time he steps on the field. Let's say he is an A+ student in an actual acadenically competitive school district and headed for honors next year. Let's say he has been defined by coaches and teachers as a leader and a unique individual. Let's say that he loves sports, and school, and his friends, that his goals in life are his to achieve and reach far beyond "the next level". Should we say he is mediocre?
Or should he work really hard, day in and day out playing lacrosse, and have his goal be MLL? so you can consider him more than mediocre? I really care what you think, please enlighten me.
Hyperbole much? You realize you are talking about 12-13 year olds, right? Good Lord - get a grip.
Say what you want, but take a look at those Turtle kids in 5 years from now, I can almost guarantee you a large majority of them will be playing this game at the next level. They are learning the value of hard work, dedication and teamwork, what's the problem with that?
Having watched them in tryouts over the last few years(yes, they are always there), I appreciate that they are individual boys. Some have great skill, others maybe less. I have witnessed many players at tryouts out perform individual Turtle players in various drills. Individual boys have skill that is on par with Turtle players. The Turtles excel as a TEAM. I respect all kids that push themselves to play their best.
I wouldn't be surprised if Many Turtles players play at the next level. I also wouldn't be surprised if many "other" players out perform individuals over the next few years and make names or TEAM associations forgetable. They are 12, time, size, maintained commitment, and maturity will decide much. I wish all our kids the best of luck in accomplishing their goals.
Mediocre? Let's say my son plays lacrosse, and other sports for that matter. Let's say he plays on an "A" team and contributes each time he steps on the field. Let's say he is an A+ student in an actual acadenically competitive school district and headed for honors next year. Let's say he has been defined by coaches and teachers as a leader and a unique individual. Let's say that he loves sports, and school, and his friends, that his goals in life are his to achieve and reach far beyond "the next level". Should we say he is mediocre?
Or should he work really hard, day in and day out playing lacrosse, and have his goal be MLL? so you can consider him more than mediocre? I really care what you think, please enlighten me.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]
The Turtles ... strive for excellence and in a world filled with mediocrity
The Turtles ... strive for excellence and in a world filled with mediocrity
Hyperbole much? You realize you are talking about 12-13 year olds, right? Good Lord - get a grip.
Say what you want, but take a look at those Turtle kids in 5 years from now, I can almost guarantee you a large majority of them will be playing this game at the next level. They are learning the value of hard work, dedication and teamwork, what's the problem with that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Having watched the Turtles play over the last few years, I appreciate that they function extremely well as a TEAM. They should, they have the commitment, time, and full resources to excel as a TEAM. Most teams, even the "A" teams ,are not as fortunate or able to give this commitment at this time. Potentially a reason they do not share the "stratosphere". They do have my respect for they accomplish as young kids.
Having watched them in tryouts over the last few years(yes, they are always there), I appreciate that they are individual boys. Some have great skill, others maybe less. I have witnessed many players at tryouts out perform individual Turtle players in various drills. Individual boys have skill that is on par with Turtle players. The Turtles excel as a TEAM. I respect all kids that push themselves to play their best.
I wouldn't be surprised if Many Turtles players play at the next level. I also wouldn't be surprised if many "other" players out perform individuals over the next few years and make names or TEAM associations forgetable. They are 12, time, size, maintained commitment, and maturity will decide much. I wish all our kids the best of luck in accomplishing their goals.
Mediocre? Let's say my son plays lacrosse, and other sports for that matter. Let's say he plays on an "A" team and contributes each time he steps on the field. Let's say he is an A+ student in an actual acadenically competitive school district and headed for honors next year. Let's say he has been defined by coaches and teachers as a leader and a unique individual. Let's say that he loves sports, and school, and his friends, that his goals in life are his to achieve and reach far beyond "the next level". Should we say he is mediocre?
Or should he work really hard, day in and day out playing lacrosse, and have his goal be MLL? so you can consider him more than mediocre? I really care what you think, please enlighten me.
Wow, your kid is amazing.
Hyperbole much? You realize you are talking about 12-13 year olds, right? Good Lord - get a grip.
Say what you want, but take a look at those Turtle kids in 5 years from now, I can almost guarantee you a large majority of them will be playing this game at the next level. They are learning the value of hard work, dedication and teamwork, what's the problem with that?
Having watched them in tryouts over the last few years(yes, they are always there), I appreciate that they are individual boys. Some have great skill, others maybe less. I have witnessed many players at tryouts out perform individual Turtle players in various drills. Individual boys have skill that is on par with Turtle players. The Turtles excel as a TEAM. I respect all kids that push themselves to play their best.
I wouldn't be surprised if Many Turtles players play at the next level. I also wouldn't be surprised if many "other" players out perform individuals over the next few years and make names or TEAM associations forgetable. They are 12, time, size, maintained commitment, and maturity will decide much. I wish all our kids the best of luck in accomplishing their goals.
Mediocre? Let's say my son plays lacrosse, and other sports for that matter. Let's say he plays on an "A" team and contributes each time he steps on the field. Let's say he is an A+ student in an actual acadenically competitive school district and headed for honors next year. Let's say he has been defined by coaches and teachers as a leader and a unique individual. Let's say that he loves sports, and school, and his friends, that his goals in life are his to achieve and reach far beyond "the next level". Should we say he is mediocre?
Or should he work really hard, day in and day out playing lacrosse, and have his goal be MLL? so you can consider him more than mediocre? I really care what you think, please enlighten me.
Wow, your kid is amazing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]
The Turtles ... strive for excellence and in a world filled with mediocrity
The Turtles ... strive for excellence and in a world filled with mediocrity
Hyperbole much? You realize you are talking about 12-13 year olds, right? Good Lord - get a grip.
Say what you want, but take a look at those Turtle kids in 5 years from now, I can almost guarantee you a large majority of them will be playing this game at the next level. They are learning the value of hard work, dedication and teamwork, what's the problem with that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh brother. How did yhe koolaid taste. JM and 91 are ready to get into the stratusphere. Turtles will lose the faceoff battle against the big guys. Looks like the turtles will have to share the rarified air.
The best "Big guy" faceoff man is playing for True Blue next best is with the Gladiators and already has played for the Turtles in Florida so they seem to have addressed their lack of size at the faceoff dot.
The best 2017 Faceoff kid right now hands down is from Smithtown hands down. That being said it's not about "how big" you are at faceoff, reflexes, reading your opponent, best groundball player, practice, practice and practice. Trust me ask the players all on different teams who train with the same coach they all know who the top 5 are. Let's see what happens in the summer some will be surprised.
Play at the next level they are 12-13 year old middle school kids, the next level is high school .Playing at the next level is no big deal but you guys seem to think your kids are going straight into D1 lacrosse . I have seen in every sport many of the 12 year old exceptional kids turn out to be exceptional high school players however just as many do not.The top 5-6 players make the team what it is and the rest are usually interchangeable with other solid players.
Mediocre? Let's say my son plays lacrosse, and other sports for that matter. Let's say he plays on an "A" team and contributes each time he steps on the field. Let's say he is an A+ student in an actual acadenically competitive school district and headed for honors next year. Let's say he has been defined by coaches and teachers as a leader and a unique individual. Let's say that he loves sports, and school, and his friends, that his goals in life are his to achieve and reach far beyond "the next level". Should we say he is mediocre?
Or should he work really hard, day in and day out playing lacrosse, and have his goal be MLL? so you can consider him more than mediocre? I really care what you think, please enlighten me.
I think you took this totally the wrong way. I was in no way referring to anyones child as mediocre, I was commenting on modern day society's acceptance of the average and mediocre, however when someone strives for excellence, he is considered "over the top" or "crazy".
I'm sure your son is special just like mine is, and regardless of lacrosse, all kids are capable of great things.
Apologies if you took offense, that was not my intention at all
Or should he work really hard, day in and day out playing lacrosse, and have his goal be MLL? so you can consider him more than mediocre? I really care what you think, please enlighten me.
I think you took this totally the wrong way. I was in no way referring to anyones child as mediocre, I was commenting on modern day society's acceptance of the average and mediocre, however when someone strives for excellence, he is considered "over the top" or "crazy".
I'm sure your son is special just like mine is, and regardless of lacrosse, all kids are capable of great things.
Apologies if you took offense, that was not my intention at all
Accepted, understood, and agree.
I think you took this totally the wrong way. I was in no way referring to anyones child as mediocre, I was commenting on modern day society's acceptance of the average and mediocre, however when someone strives for excellence, he is considered "over the top" or "crazy".
I'm sure your son is special just like mine is, and regardless of lacrosse, all kids are capable of great things.
Apologies if you took offense, that was not my intention at all [/quote]
I think you took this totally the wrong way. I was in no way referring to anyones child as mediocre, I was commenting on modern day society's acceptance of the average and mediocre, however when someone strives for excellence, he is considered "over the top" or "crazy".
I'm sure your son is special just like mine is, and regardless of lacrosse, all kids are capable of great things.
Apologies if you took offense, that was not my intention at all [/quote]
Is Powers coaching the 2014 Orange Team or just the Turtles?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Powers coaching the 2014 Orange Team or just the Turtles?
Powers trains the Turtles but coaches the older teams over each summer. He does not coach the Turtles during the summer.
Anyone can train with Powers.
Just call the store that JD owns and they will tell you how to sign up for a Powers clinic
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just call the store that JD owns and they will tell you how to sign up for a Powers clinic
He usually does clinics with the older kids through Lax Unlimited. Other than JV and Varsity he doesnt usually work with the younger kids other than the Turtles.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just call the store that JD owns and they will tell you how to sign up for a Powers clinic
I believe that Coach Powers only works with High School players with his clinics offering during winter, correct??
I watched Express 7th grade Orange (McManess?) a couple of nights ago in a lighthouse game vs fl$ 8th grade. Anyone whom thinks that express team is weak is crazy. Express was scoring at will & defense was great in the whole 1st half against a talent older fl$ group. My son town played before them so we stuck around till halftime to watch, anyone know final score?
Express 2017 orange McManus beat 2016 fl$, 10 to 7 was the final score. McManus was up 6 2 at half. This team is coming together quick. Defense was solid, midde play was very good. Face offs strong. Attack feeds to middies were on a rope. Impressive looking for this night. I know it's indoor. Still a good looking team at this time.
fl$, killed korwan's team.
1< Turtles
2< McManus
3< korwan
1< Turtles
2< McManus
3< korwan
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$, killed korwan's team.
1< Turtles
2< McManus
3< korwan
1< Turtles
2< McManus
3< korwan
Have they even played each other yet? Why don't you let the kids play each other first.
Love people that talk smack and have no idea of what they are talking about
Mcmannus team lost to a 6th grade express team in the OBLL Thanksgiving tournament . Is this the same team?
Yes 2017 Express Korwan lost to 2016 fl$, 2017 Express McManus beat 2016 fl$. Let us now establish our "pre-season" rankings based on these unpredictable and often underprepared winter "fun" games.
Fall- Yes 2017 Express McManus lost to 2018 Express Orange at Turkey Shootout. Interestingly, 2017 Express Korwan beat 2018 Express Orange in a Fall Scrimmage.
All these teams were the "same" teams that either won or lost in a possibly unexpected way at some point in the fall or winter. Korwan's team returned maybe 10 players from last year, McManus had similar situation but maybe not as significant. Korwan's team is deep, as the players get to know each other and fullfill their roles they will do well Kids will step up and teams will gel more as spring/summer approach.
The 2017 Express teams will play each other before the tournament season is over, hopefully more than once. I think the games are going to be competitive, and, simply fun.
Fall- Yes 2017 Express McManus lost to 2018 Express Orange at Turkey Shootout. Interestingly, 2017 Express Korwan beat 2018 Express Orange in a Fall Scrimmage.
All these teams were the "same" teams that either won or lost in a possibly unexpected way at some point in the fall or winter. Korwan's team returned maybe 10 players from last year, McManus had similar situation but maybe not as significant. Korwan's team is deep, as the players get to know each other and fullfill their roles they will do well Kids will step up and teams will gel more as spring/summer approach.
The 2017 Express teams will play each other before the tournament season is over, hopefully more than once. I think the games are going to be competitive, and, simply fun.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mcmannus team lost to a 6th grade express team in the OBLL Thanksgiving tournament . Is this the same team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mcmannus team lost to a 6th grade express team in the OBLL Thanksgiving tournament . Is this the same team?
Yup, 2017 McManus lost to the best 6th grade team in the Country! McManus team was winning throughout the contest, just made some mistakes and the 6th grade team took advantage of those mistakes. Funny thing is that 6th grade team trains a lot with several of McManus guys all the time, as does a couple if Korwins guys!
Point is, it's ALL GOOD for Express! All are kids be it 6th, 7th or 8th grade are working together to get better!
PS- McManus team looked like EXCELLENT against a strong fl$ 2016 unit! Beat'em up.
[quote=Anonymous]fl$, killed korwan's team.
1< Turtles
2< McManus
3< korwan [/quote
1. Turtles
2. Korwan
3. Crimi
4. McManus
Wow this is fun
1< Turtles
2< McManus
3< korwan [/quote
1. Turtles
2. Korwan
3. Crimi
4. McManus
Wow this is fun
And the good news is theere all Express teams....roll EXPRESS roll!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]fl$, killed korwan's team.
1< Turtles
2< McManus
3< korwan [/quote
1. Turtles
2. Korwan
3. Crimi
4. McManus
Wow this is fun
1< Turtles
2< McManus
3< korwan [/quote
1. Turtles
2. Korwan
3. Crimi
4. McManus
Wow this is fun
You have to be a 91 employee or parent. Crimi?
1-Trutles
2-Orange (Mcmaness)
3-Pirannahs (Korwin)
4-Crimi
But I agree, ROLL EXPRESS ROLL!
[quote=Anonymous]fl$, killed korwan's team.
1< Turtles
2< McManus
3< korwan [/quote
Who really cares? There are 3 really good teams at this level that will be competetive all season. If this makes you feel better about your son being on McManus team good for you.
Say what you want about the Express, but my son has been with this organization for 2 years and it has been nothing but a positive experience with the exception of the venom that is spit around by the parents. I dont understand why everyone is so threatened by having another quality team at this age group? The more the merrier I say, my son has friends on all the Express 2017 teams, it makes absolutely no difference to him what team he plays on. Hes happy where he is, and to me thats all that matters.
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1< Turtles
2< McManus
3< korwan [/quote
Who really cares? There are 3 really good teams at this level that will be competetive all season. If this makes you feel better about your son being on McManus team good for you.
Say what you want about the Express, but my son has been with this organization for 2 years and it has been nothing but a positive experience with the exception of the venom that is spit around by the parents. I dont understand why everyone is so threatened by having another quality team at this age group? The more the merrier I say, my son has friends on all the Express 2017 teams, it makes absolutely no difference to him what team he plays on. Hes happy where he is, and to me thats all that matters.
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The 3 express teams are probably the 3 top teams in the tri-state area. They will continue to win games and tournaments.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]fl$, killed korwan's team.
1< Turtles
2< McManus
3< korwan [/quote
1. Turtles
2. Korwan
3. Crimi
4. McManus
Wow this is fun
1< Turtles
2< McManus
3< korwan [/quote
1. Turtles
2. Korwan
3. Crimi
4. McManus
Wow this is fun
You have to be a 91 employee or parent. Crimi?
1-Trutles
2-Orange (Mcmaness)
3-Pirannahs (Korwin)
4-Crimi
But I agree, ROLL EXPRESS ROLL!
Actually no, I was mocking the original ridiculous post
Really??? McManus' team lost to Mule's team at Yale. How can you say that they are in the top 3?
Express 6th lost to Locascios team 4 out of 5 games. If Sals team won Tri state and Dicks nationals how is it that Express 6th is best in country?
Mule's team as usual brought some players that would not qualify in the age group. We all know they are good for that!!!!!
Totally Agree! Have seen Express 2018 and 91 2018 play many times. Hands down 91 is the better team. Defense and middie play goes to 91 and express has a better attack. All in all 91 is a much deeper squad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really??? McManus' team lost to Mule's team at Yale. How can you say that they are in the top 3?
Mule defaintly had a few older kids but no biggie, that's what some men need to do. Fact is McManus team was winning till the final 2 or 3 mins of game just didn't seal the deal in a FALL tournament. I like our chances next time we play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express 6th lost to Locascios team 4 out of 5 games. If Sals team won Tri state and Dicks nationals how is it that Express 6th is best in country?
How is Locosio's team the best in the country when they lost to TLI every time they played? who cares? Stop the rediculous statements!! They are all good teams that can beat each other on any given day! Why is it so important for these parents to feel their kid is on the best team in the "COUNTRY" ? Stop the madness!!!!!! Worry about if your kid is getting better and developing!
Jeez everyone relax, there is room for everyone here on Long Island. Plenty of good competetive lacrosse for everyone. I dont understand all this hostility. They are after all, just kids.Im as competetive as anyone, but my lord what goes on with youth lacrosse on Long Island is almost criminal.
Mule had the right aged kids, but other that that it was a good fair response. I would agree that McManus' team played very well and perhaps they split 5 games a piece in a 10 game shootout. Either way, 2 good teams with great talent on both. Makes for a good rivalry and some good lacrosse for us parents to watch.
The 91 2018 MIddies are weak. They have one good kid that comes from off Long Island. After that............... nobody. Alot of "Parent" favors being played out on that squad.
Team Li stomped out the express this weekend
If that's the case why don't you contact the coaches's and set up a scrimmage.My guess is you wont.You will do everything to avoid us.
The Express Orange 2017 game against fl$ 2016 can't be used as a comparison for anything. 3/4 of the fl$ 2016 team was not there. The fl$ team was made up of mostly 2017 and 2018 fl$ boys. I know- my son was one of the 2018 boys playing for fl$. The fl$ 2016 goalie played midfield for most of the game.
I heard that True Blue is looking pretty awesome. Any one know about this team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard that True Blue is looking pretty awesome. Any one know about this team?
I hear the starting 10 can run with anyone. Time will tell how deep they really are.
I figured as much, I didn't think those results were accurate. I would like to see a rematch vs the true fl$ 2016. I would think the fl$ 2017 would be a good game. They gave the mixed up Express Team a beating in NJ last month.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I figured as much, I didn't think those results were accurate. I would like to see a rematch vs the true fl$ 2016. I would think the fl$ 2017 would be a good game. They gave the mixed up Express Team a beating in NJ last month.
Key words are MIXED UP EXPRESS TEAM. There were a few of McManus and a few of Korwins guys on that team, the rest were a mix of some other kids I have NEVER seen anywhere. McManus & Korwin kids didn't even know there own "teammates" that day in NJ.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Express Orange 2017 game against fl$ 2016 can't be used as a comparison for anything. 3/4 of the fl$ 2016 team was not there. The fl$ team was made up of mostly 2017 and 2018 fl$ boys. I know- my son was one of the 2018 boys playing for fl$. The fl$ 2016 goalie played midfield for most of the game.
OMG, how many more excuses can you say Mr fl$?!?! Who cares, its a indoor winter game! Really, it means nothing. BTW, if you are telling the truth and the fl$ 2016 team was full of fl$ 2017 players than that would be perfect. 2017 Orange (McManus) is made up of all 2017 players. I know your 8th grade goalie was there, I know that much. Awesome player.
IMHO Express 2017 orange may be one of the best teams in the tri-state region. They should roll this year and win their share of tournaments. They have beat all of the other teams listed previously. Players and coaching are top notch.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Totally Agree! Have seen Express 2018 and 91 2018 play many times. Hands down 91 is the better team. Defense and middie play goes to 91 and express has a better attack. All in all 91 is a much deeper squad
As an actual observer to these games..this is the most ridiculous statement ever. Every season the teams are different not the same players year after year on both teams. Hands down?? Who are you? I guess not someone that knows every time they played each other it was a goal or two either way. Great kids that play great lacrosse,great coaches,just obnoxious,arrogant 91 parents that need to feel that they made the better choice than the other side.Classic trash behavior was when a the 91 parents set up all the orange 91 chairs bacross the goal line to watch an Express game.The refree was even astonished. That group takes the cake with out of control.They cant even stand each other all they do is talk behind each others backs as well as the cooaches. I have heard it with my own ears...Good Luck to all the great lax boys!Hope you survive your parents!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Express Orange 2017 game against fl$ 2016 can't be used as a comparison for anything. 3/4 of the fl$ 2016 team was not there. The fl$ team was made up of mostly 2017 and 2018 fl$ boys. I know- my son was one of the 2018 boys playing for fl$. The fl$ 2016 goalie played midfield for most of the game.
OMG, how many more excuses can you say Mr fl$?!?! Who cares, its a indoor winter game! Really, it means nothing. BTW, if you are telling the truth and the fl$ 2016 team was full of fl$ 2017 players than that would be perfect. 2017 Orange (McManus) is made up of all 2017 players. I know your 8th grade goalie was there, I know that much. Awesome player.
Are you kidding me?!?! the starting line and second line stacked!!! They have 3 grenat dodgers(2 of them start) and they are the hardest working team out there! hey look they are traning right now at Next Level!! Where are you?!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you kidding me?!?! the starting line and second line stacked!!! They have 3 grenat dodgers(2 of them start) and they are the hardest working team out there! hey look they are traning right now at Next Level!! Where are you?!
I actually remember tri state last year and seem to remember 2 of those weak middies winning some pretty big goals also remember no scoring from Express Midddies? And your right the new kid from off long island is awesome wonder why he choose to come to 91 could of played anywhere!
as we know from reading the 91 thread now, 91 offers "tuition reimbursement" (ie free play) to certain players. We have seen this at a number of age groups....THATS why someone might chose a lesser organization. When they don't have to "pay the dues) that the other players do its an easy choice!!!!
Why is everyone making a big deal about the 2017 teams and what they are doing indoor. McManus team and Korwans team are both very talented teams and will be very competetive throughout the spring and summer tournaments. 91 Orange is a very good team, as are fl$ 2017, True Blue, the Outlaws and some others. I think the competition at this age group is great and it will be a lot of fun watching the great lacrosse this upcoming season. You should all be thankful that we live in the hotbed of lax that we do, it will only serve your kid well in the future. Cant wait for the season, should be fun! See ya at the tailgate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Couldn't agree more. I have seen it first hand with 91 that "recruited" players dont have to pay. After 2 years of witnessing this I left 91. I dont get it.....when I asked about this I was never given an answer by those who operate the organization.
all of what you said is your opinion. . . and as the old saying goes, "opinions are like ***holes, everyone has one". However, your statement about the chairs is completely incorrect. The boys decided, (on their own) to go and watch "their friends" on both the Express and Team LI play each other. The majority of the boys on "all 3 teams" all know each other, and have played with/against each other, and attended summer camps together since they were in 1st grade. It is sad that a great show of "support" by a group of 11 yr olds for their "friends" could be ruined and degraded by your uninformed falsehood. The problem is NOT the boys, it's parents like YOU who open their mouth and have NO idea what the truth is. Please do us all a favor, verify your information before you spew your poison in the future. FYI - 91 chairs are BLUE this year. . . keep an eye out on a sideline near you to see the new improved design.
Yipee!!!!Blue Chairs. Do the players that dont pay get their chairs for free too!!!!!
can someone tell me what the cost structure/tournament schedule for express girls teams are, i have a 5th grader who will probably be looking to join sa club tesm next year - thanks
Does the 2020 Blue team have a coach yet?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does the 2020 Blue team have a coach yet?
They don't care about the blue teams. They are just revenue generators for the club.
A friends son was on blue team last year. High school kids showed up 15 minutes before games at a tournament and said they were the coach. Didn't even know the boys names. asked them to raise their hands by position and sent them onto the field. That's a disgrace.
I think the 2022 team does
Originally Posted by Anonymous
all of what you said is your opinion. . . and as the old saying goes, "opinions are like ***holes, everyone has one". However, your statement about the chairs is completely incorrect. The boys decided, (on their own) to go and watch "their friends" on both the Express and Team LI play each other. The majority of the boys on "all 3 teams" all know each other, and have played with/against each other, and attended summer camps together since they were in 1st grade. It is sad that a great show of "support" by a group of 11 yr olds for their "friends" could be ruined and degraded by your uninformed falsehood. The problem is NOT the boys, it's parents like YOU who open their mouth and have NO idea what the truth is. Please do us all a favor, verify your information before you spew your poison in the future. FYI - 91 chairs are BLUE this year. . . keep an eye out on a sideline near you to see the new improved design.
I happen to have some insight into this topic.My information is verified. I happen to be a parent of a player that had a choice on what team they wanted to play for.I had a choice.Poison it is not.So here goes. The boys are all great kids BUT the product of some over zealous parents that are incapable of behaving. I witnessed the 91 obnoxious behavior of SOME parents when they screamed, yelled, and get in the face of opposing parents.We all know it to be true and some of our kids have been put in bad situations because of it.As the parent of children that will be playing for many more years I can only hope that the sparks subside as all the children find success in whatever they choose to do. I hope the bad blood somehow fades as time goes on.Good Luck to all the boys this upcoming season.By the way this is a Express thread...so Good Luck to all the Express teams this season!
Roll Express Roll.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Roll Express Roll.
Real original. LOL
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Roll Express Roll.
Real original. LOL
Funny. What do you have? Whats your team name Ill help you with a moniker.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Roll Express Roll.
Real original. LOL
Funny. What do you have? Whats your team name Ill help you with a moniker.
We don't need flashy team names and borrowed slogans...we just go out and play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Roll Express Roll.
Real original. LOL
Funny. What do you have? Whats your team name Ill help you with a moniker.
We don't need flashy team names and borrowed slogans...we just go out and play.
I hear u but we need a flashy stolen slogan because we are only the most recruited club on east coast! So what's your club name bigtime?
name of the club is... "times they are a changing"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Roll Express Roll.
Real original. LOL
Funny. What do you have? Whats your team name Ill help you with a moniker.
We don't need flashy team names and borrowed slogans...we just go out and play.
I hear u but we need a flashy stolen slogan because we are only the most recruited club on east coast! So what's your club name bigtime?
What? Did you read what you wrote? If you are reallly that good, you wouldn't need a slogan period, let alone a borrowed one. I guess you are hearing the footsteps of the other LI clubs and are desperately trying to hand on. You have those recruits because you were the only ones for a long time. Now, the times are changing.
Look at the 2010, 2011, 2012 (commits) players from Express on the website, top players @ top schools! Meanwhile, from 2010 to now there have been plenty of other LI clubs out there and none of these clubs are getting kids a "1st look" except maybe fl$. Man up son, name your club!! Oh, Roll Express Roll.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the 2010, 2011, 2012 (commits) players from Express on the website, top players @ top schools! Meanwhile, from 2010 to now there have been plenty of other LI clubs out there and none of these clubs are getting kids a "1st look" except maybe fl$. Man up son, name your club!! Oh, Roll Express Roll.
When all of those players you mentioned as going to top schools were younger players the express was the only show in town. The point is that those players were coming up with the express, however now the other clubs have teams that rival or exceed the express teams in the younger age groups. When these younger teams move up in a few years the express will no longer be as dominant of a club. The older high school aged players that have played for express for years would not be very likely to leave for a new club while in their recruiting years. I hold no ill will towards the express but that is just the way I see it. The monopoly is coming to an end.
4th grade 91 is the only "younger" team which will surpass any other organization at that grade. The other "younger" teams Orange v Orange are great match ups. But if those coaches and parents keep acting the way they do, parents and coaches may keep there distance, so lets becareful how we promote the younger teams of 91 let alone the lifespan of the organization.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
4th grade 91 is the only "younger" team which will surpass any other organization at that grade. The other "younger" teams Orange v Orange are great match ups. But if those coaches and parents keep acting the way they do, parents and coaches may keep there distance, so lets becareful how we promote the younger teams of 91 let alone the lifespan of the organization.
Who said anything about team 91?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
4th grade 91 is the only "younger" team which will surpass any other organization at that grade. The other "younger" teams Orange v Orange are great match ups. But if those coaches and parents keep acting the way they do, parents and coaches may keep there distance, so lets becareful how we promote the younger teams of 91 let alone the lifespan of the organization.
Good, yes. That's because there are kids on that team that are older than 4th grade
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the 2010, 2011, 2012 (commits) players from Express on the website, top players @ top schools! Meanwhile, from 2010 to now there have been plenty of other LI clubs out there and none of these clubs are getting kids a "1st look" except maybe fl$. Man up son, name your club!! Oh, Roll Express Roll.
When all of those players you mentioned as going to top schools were younger players the express was the only show in town. The point is that those players were coming up with the express, however now the other clubs have teams that rival or exceed the express teams in the younger age groups. When these younger teams move up in a few years the express will no longer be as dominant of a club. The older high school aged players that have played for express for years would not be very likely to leave for a new club while in their recruiting years. I hold no ill will towards the express but that is just the way I see it. The monopoly is coming to an end.
Nothings coming to an end. I don't have kids on Express. However, you need to understand, it's all about St. Anthonys and Chaminade. Express will always dominate as long as they have those two schools locked up. You will see top kids from other clubs migrate to Express when they decide they want to go to one of those schools. It's just that simple... Add in a few public school kids who are off the charts and once again from ninth grade on its lights out.
Why does it always have to be that the kids are older than they are supposed to be? As the parent of a kindergarten kid who looks like a 2nd grader.....sometimes kids are just big.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
4th grade 91 is the only "younger" team which will surpass any other organization at that grade. The other "younger" teams Orange v Orange are great match ups. But if those coaches and parents keep acting the way they do, parents and coaches may keep there distance, so lets becareful how we promote the younger teams of 91 let alone the lifespan of the organization.
Good, yes. That's because there are kids on that team that are older than 4th grade
That's funny when the Express blatantly posts championship pictures from last summer with an overage kid on one of the teams. What's even funnier is that this is one of the teams you come here to brag about how good they are. I guess the coach isn't all you think he is.
To reply to a few of the comments, do not forget that the Express now have Kellenberg locked up with their hiring of Coach Schwalje, The 2018 91 Orange is head and shoulders above the other teams in that age group, and do not point fingers at other teams for using so called older players when Express teams do it also.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To reply to a few of the comments, do not forget that the Express now have Kellenberg locked up with their hiring of Coach Schwalje, The 2018 91 Orange is head and shoulders above the other teams in that age group, and do not point fingers at other teams for using so called older players when Express teams do it also.
How do you proclaim 91 Orange 2018 as head and shoulders above all other teams in that age bracket? Based on what criteria?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To reply to a few of the comments, do not forget that the Express now have Kellenberg locked up with their hiring of Coach Schwalje, The 2018 91 Orange is head and shoulders above the other teams in that age group, and do not point fingers at other teams for using so called older players when Express teams do it also.
Can you get 2018 91 Orange to join OBLL. This way they can play fl$, Outlaws,TrueBlue, Team Long Island, and Express just to make sure they are head and shoulders above them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To reply to a few of the comments, do not forget that the Express now have Kellenberg locked up with their hiring of Coach Schwalje, The 2018 91 Orange is head and shoulders above the other teams in that age group, and do not point fingers at other teams for using so called older players when Express teams do it also.
Can you get 2018 91 Orange to join OBLL. This way they can play fl$, Outlaws,TrueBlue, Team Long Island, and Express just to make sure they are head and shoulders above them
Ask your director why no 91 teams are registered for OBLL.
channy runs and would never schedule express to play 91 just like last year. 2018 will be playing up ayear in the a bracket at shamrock. Why dont you join us?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
channy runs and would never schedule express to play 91 just like last year. 2018 will be playing up ayear in the a bracket at shamrock. Why dont you join us?
Ask the league director. He's all too familiar with what happened.
If you want to play them so bad why not put your team in the division they will be playing in.
I am not the coach, all I can say is team 91 2018 would love the opportunity to play express 2018 we will be in the shamrock shootout 2017 A bracket(You guys should register). We had a great practice with Team LI this weekend and would love to play Express. Would be great for the boys. It seems as if Express coaches don't want to play us? It seems as if Express wont do any tournaments 91 is in?
Team 91 2018 team with help of 7th & 8th players, I would imagine... AGAIN.
Just play FAIR! Teach your kids it's OK to lose the games when you play fair & square & give 100%.
I understand those big clubs need the wins for their business.
See you all at OBLL.
Just play FAIR! Teach your kids it's OK to lose the games when you play fair & square & give 100%.
I understand those big clubs need the wins for their business.
See you all at OBLL.
Not 1 7th grader on team 91 2018 orange. I believe 2 kids on team are in 6th grade and have oct or nov bdays (just like every other team) Is it that hard to just say they are a great team that is very well coached. Why is it necessary to accuse cheating? Makes you feel better?
You are kidding right...7th & 8th...why wait for OBLL... sign up for the Shamrock Shootout....Team LI and others will be there...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 2018 team with help of 7th & 8th players, I would imagine... AGAIN.
Just play FAIR! Teach your kids it's OK to lose the games when you play fair & square & give 100%.
I understand those big clubs need the wins for their business.
See you all at OBLL.
Just play FAIR! Teach your kids it's OK to lose the games when you play fair & square & give 100%.
I understand those big clubs need the wins for their business.
See you all at OBLL.
curious as to where you came up with the notion that 91 uses older players? Especially when your 2018 Express team has at least 4-5 (if not more) kids that were all born in "1999" and should be 7th grade? Is this a classic case of the "pot calling the kettle black"? Check your own roster 1st.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 2018 team with help of 7th & 8th players, I would imagine... AGAIN.
Just play FAIR! Teach your kids it's OK to lose the games when you play fair & square & give 100%.
I understand those big clubs need the wins for their business.
See you all at OBLL.
Just play FAIR! Teach your kids it's OK to lose the games when you play fair & square & give 100%.
I understand those big clubs need the wins for their business.
See you all at OBLL.
LOL. Sour grapes. Once again, check the championship pictures on you club's website and let me know how many over aged kids are in those photos. My sons team played the express last year at a local tournament on two consecutive days. After they couldn't beat us on day 1, their team suddenly found 5 or 6 kids for the second day who couldn't make it the first day. And you know what...we beat them even worse. Grow up and look at what your own team does before you come on here with factless accusations.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
curious as to where you came up with the notion that 91 uses older players? Especially when your 2018 Express team has at least 4-5 (if not more) kids that were all born in "1999" and should be 7th grade? Is this a classic case of the "pot calling the kettle black"? Check your own roster 1st.
Please just look at the 4th grade squad, the big star and coaches son was in 4th grade last year,4th. He was left back and is still in 4th grade, most woul consider that one example of an older kid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
channy runs and would never schedule express to play 91 just like last year. 2018 will be playing up ayear in the a bracket at shamrock. Why dont you join us?
Shamrock shootout is run by Rockstar aka 91. Ask your director why express is not registered?
How do these two get past the bad blood?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
curious as to where you came up with the notion that 91 uses older players? Especially when your 2018 Express team has at least 4-5 (if not more) kids that were all born in "1999" and should be 7th grade? Is this a classic case of the "pot calling the kettle black"? Check your own roster 1st.
Please just look at the 4th grade squad, the big star and coaches son was in 4th grade last year,4th. He was left back and is still in 4th grade, most woul consider that one example of an older kid.
They were 3rd grade last year, 4th grade this year. This stuff is easy enough to check.
I know the coach and Actually the 4th grade coaches son is in 2nd grade and quite the player, that team is about a good and dominating as I have seen a team in a respected age group including the turtles. Now only if that team could come to the express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
curious as to where you came up with the notion that 91 uses older players? Especially when your 2018 Express team has at least 4-5 (if not more) kids that were all born in "1999" and should be 7th grade? Is this a classic case of the "pot calling the kettle black"? Check your own roster 1st.
The birthdate eligibility has been belabored on this site (CageSage correct me if i'm wrong) US Lacrosse rules : Children born is Sept, Oct, Nov, and December of 1999 in 6th grade are NOT overage.
Basically most states base grade eligibility on age at the begining of the school year Sept. NY is one of the only states that uses calender Dec 31st.
That said. MOST 6th grade teams have kids with 1999 birthdays including 91 2018 Orange.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
curious as to where you came up with the notion that 91 uses older players? Especially when your 2018 Express team has at least 4-5 (if not more) kids that were all born in "1999" and should be 7th grade? Is this a classic case of the "pot calling the kettle black"? Check your own roster 1st.
You should check your own list! Could easily name four kids on 91 that are for sure supposed to be in 7th grade based on their 1999 early fall birthdays. However, we are talking about children.... It's the sicko parents that held them back due to their own mental issues. The kids didn't decide to play down, the parents made that decision for them. This stuff will only stop when we get I.D. Cards with birthdates. Like soccer!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
curious as to where you came up with the notion that 91 uses older players? Especially when your 2018 Express team has at least 4-5 (if not more) kids that were all born in "1999" and should be 7th grade? Is this a classic case of the "pot calling the kettle black"? Check your own roster 1st.
Please just look at the 4th grade squad, the big star and coaches son was in 4th grade last year,4th. He was left back and is still in 4th grade, most woul consider that one example of an older kid.
Did you ever think that maybe the kid was playing up last year. I think I know the player you are talking about. My son played against him several years ago when he was in the first grade. At the time my son was in the second. Now my son is in the fifth, and he is in the fourth. The kid is just good. Leave it at that. I have no skin in this game, because my son doesn't play for either organization. Let the kids play.
Everyone does realize we are talking about 4th grade here? The way this thread is going, you would think it was about college prospects. Deep breaths, people, ....deep breaths......
can some one please explain the "rules" because what seems to be a simple concept seems to be very confusing.
if a kid is in 6th grade and scheduled to graduate high school in 2018 then he would be a "legal" player on a 2018 team, correct? this child could have been born in 1999 (or 1998) but if he is in 6th grade and plays on a 2018 team he is playing in his correct grade level or are there age limits to grade levels?
If a child was born on 9/1/1999 and last year was in 6th grade and played on a 2017 team and then for whatever reason (academic, lacrosse, social) he was held back a year and is repeating 6th grade wouldn't he now be a "legal" 2018 player?
I am not questioning the reasons or merits for being held back just assuming that he was held back, why shouldn't he be allowed to play 2018? this is the group he will now be competing against for the next 6 years on the field, in the class room and in the recruiting process. lets just let it go.
I personally would not hold my kids back a year for lacrosse, it is a personal decision and I don't question people that choose to. In hindsight though I would have married a taller women with better athletic ability, and maybe a lefty to really improve my chances of having a blue chipper.
hay, that's just me.
if a kid is in 6th grade and scheduled to graduate high school in 2018 then he would be a "legal" player on a 2018 team, correct? this child could have been born in 1999 (or 1998) but if he is in 6th grade and plays on a 2018 team he is playing in his correct grade level or are there age limits to grade levels?
If a child was born on 9/1/1999 and last year was in 6th grade and played on a 2017 team and then for whatever reason (academic, lacrosse, social) he was held back a year and is repeating 6th grade wouldn't he now be a "legal" 2018 player?
I am not questioning the reasons or merits for being held back just assuming that he was held back, why shouldn't he be allowed to play 2018? this is the group he will now be competing against for the next 6 years on the field, in the class room and in the recruiting process. lets just let it go.
I personally would not hold my kids back a year for lacrosse, it is a personal decision and I don't question people that choose to. In hindsight though I would have married a taller women with better athletic ability, and maybe a lefty to really improve my chances of having a blue chipper.
hay, that's just me.
On pg 68, when you use the word, "verified", regarding your statement or information, by whom are you referring the "verification" was completed? Judge Judy? Captain Kangaroo? As a 91 parent, I am not aware of any of our parents "getting in the face" of any parents, or anyone for that matter, from any other teams? Perhaps, you should look a little closer to home, on your own sideline, for "verified" overzealous, childish behavior. Re: when one of your "assistant" coaches was ejected by the referee (and Mike Chanenchuk) from an indoor game last year for running out onto the field and dropping the "F'Bomb" while screaming in the face a "10 year old" player from Team 91? Remember? Ring a bell? To the best of my knowledge, that was "verified" by at least 100+ parents/spectators who watched in "horror" and disbelief. In conclusion, please, do us all a favor, in your own words, "As the parent of children that will be playing for many more years," please make those years "tolerable" for the rest of us, and find a "better source of verification" for your misinformation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can some one please explain the "rules" because what seems to be a simple concept seems to be very confusing.
if a kid is in 6th grade and scheduled to graduate high school in 2018 then he would be a "legal" player on a 2018 team, correct? this child could have been born in 1999 (or 1998) but if he is in 6th grade and plays on a 2018 team he is playing in his correct grade level or are there age limits to grade levels?
If a child was born on 9/1/1999 and last year was in 6th grade and played on a 2017 team and then for whatever reason (academic, lacrosse, social) he was held back a year and is repeating 6th grade wouldn't he now be a "legal" 2018 player?
I am not questioning the reasons or merits for being held back just assuming that he was held back, why shouldn't he be allowed to play 2018? this is the group he will now be competing against for the next 6 years on the field, in the class room and in the recruiting process. lets just let it go.
I personally would not hold my kids back a year for lacrosse, it is a personal decision and I don't question people that choose to. In hindsight though I would have married a taller women with better athletic ability, and maybe a lefty to really improve my chances of having a blue chipper.
hay, that's just me.
if a kid is in 6th grade and scheduled to graduate high school in 2018 then he would be a "legal" player on a 2018 team, correct? this child could have been born in 1999 (or 1998) but if he is in 6th grade and plays on a 2018 team he is playing in his correct grade level or are there age limits to grade levels?
If a child was born on 9/1/1999 and last year was in 6th grade and played on a 2017 team and then for whatever reason (academic, lacrosse, social) he was held back a year and is repeating 6th grade wouldn't he now be a "legal" 2018 player?
I am not questioning the reasons or merits for being held back just assuming that he was held back, why shouldn't he be allowed to play 2018? this is the group he will now be competing against for the next 6 years on the field, in the class room and in the recruiting process. lets just let it go.
I personally would not hold my kids back a year for lacrosse, it is a personal decision and I don't question people that choose to. In hindsight though I would have married a taller women with better athletic ability, and maybe a lefty to really improve my chances of having a blue chipper.
hay, that's just me.
1 If your child was left back a grade for academic reasons, the last thin he should be doing is playing travel lacrosse, Instead of spending the money on a sport, i think you should be spending the money on tutors and summer school.When the his grades come up and he can keep them there by his self, he could play lax again ,
2 If it is academic you better get to that tutor in a hurry, we're not talking about basketball, or football here , no college is going to give a scholarship to a failing student, so your just wasting your money anyway. ( and by the way don't you people care about your child s life after lax. he's going to know how to read after he is done playing)
3 If your leaving your kid back for lacrosse you are truly stupid , unless you leave him back 4 years he is still competing against the same kids for the same scholarship. and your not fooling any college, there going to know what your doing. and I can assure you, they will look at other kids first
4if you have to make your child repeat a grade to get an advantage on the lax field he's probably not that good anyway. and even though he might be a little bigger and stronger, I assure you there is a kid in that grade that is better than he is .
[quote=Anonymous]On pg 68, when you use the word, "verified", regarding your statement or information, by whom are you referring the "verification" was completed? Judge Judy? Captain Kangaroo? As a 91 parent, I am not aware of any of our parents "getting in the face" of any parents, or anyone for that matter, from any other teams? Perhaps, you should look a little closer to home, on your own sideline, for "verified" overzealous, childish behavior. Re: when one of your "assistant" coaches was ejected by the referee (and Mike Chanenchuk) from an indoor game last year for running out onto the field and dropping the "F'Bomb" while screaming in the face a "10 year old" player from Team 91? Remember? Ring a bell? To the best of my knowledge, that was "verified" by at least 100+ parents/spectators who watched in "horror" and disbelief.
The story is a little embellished. It happened very quickly from the sideline as a reaction to an unsafe check (the player has a history, I believe he had 8 flags that night) . From the other side of the glass nothing could be heard.
Everyone was wondering why the assistant left (he left without an argument). As the story made its way to the spectators the game of telephone took place in the stands. When the story got to me, I heard he stabbed the ref. You must have been sitting to my left. No excuse for the f bomb even out of a moment of passion. The " in his face"
and "horror" never happened.
The story is a little embellished. It happened very quickly from the sideline as a reaction to an unsafe check (the player has a history, I believe he had 8 flags that night) . From the other side of the glass nothing could be heard.
Everyone was wondering why the assistant left (he left without an argument). As the story made its way to the spectators the game of telephone took place in the stands. When the story got to me, I heard he stabbed the ref. You must have been sitting to my left. No excuse for the f bomb even out of a moment of passion. The " in his face"
and "horror" never happened.
Well. . . after reviewing the videotape (LOL), the "embellishment" is clearly the alleged "8 flags". I recall a grand total of "2" actual flags at most. However, the "player" (I assume you are referring to) did have "6" goals, so maybe in your haste to reply, you just added eveything together causing your embellishment? (6 + 2 = 8)?
I have to admnit, I am disapointed that a "grown man" would make such a statement: "the player has a history?" about a 10 year old kid, hidden behind an annonymous post, really? Shame on you "little man".
I have to admnit, I am disapointed that a "grown man" would make such a statement: "the player has a history?" about a 10 year old kid, hidden behind an annonymous post, really? Shame on you "little man".
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well. . . after reviewing the videotape (LOL), the "embellishment" is clearly the alleged "8 flags". I recall a grand total of "2" actual flags at most. However, the "player" (I assume you are referring to) did have "6" goals, so maybe in your haste to reply, you just added eveything together causing your embellishment? (6 + 2 = 8)?
I have to admnit, I am disapointed that a "grown man" would make such a statement: "the player has a history?" about a 10 year old kid, hidden behind an annonymous post, really? Shame on you "little man".
I have to admnit, I am disapointed that a "grown man" would make such a statement: "the player has a history?" about a 10 year old kid, hidden behind an annonymous post, really? Shame on you "little man".
I must apologize it was over a year ago. Check your other videos he did have an 8 flag game right around this time. I don't blame the kid. I blame the coaching he receives from both sides of the field. Promoting goon play at 10 years old is what's shameful.
all you people are f!@#ing crazy , you should all be ashamed of Both teams parents are. giving lacrosse a bad name . And you all sound like a bunch of bitter over involved snobbish cry babies I wish you all would just SHUT UP.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well. . . after reviewing the videotape (LOL), the "embellishment" is clearly the alleged "8 flags". I recall a grand total of "2" actual flags at most. However, the "player" (I assume you are referring to) did have "6" goals, so maybe in your haste to reply, you just added eveything together causing your embellishment? (6 + 2 = 8)?
I have to admnit, I am disapointed that a "grown man" would make such a statement: "the player has a history?" about a 10 year old kid, hidden behind an annonymous post, really? Shame on you "little man".
I have to admnit, I am disapointed that a "grown man" would make such a statement: "the player has a history?" about a 10 year old kid, hidden behind an annonymous post, really? Shame on you "little man".
I must apologize it was over a year ago. Check your other videos he did have an 8 flag game right around this time. I don't blame the kid. I blame the coaching he receives from both sides of the field. Promoting goon play at 10 years old is what's shameful.
Am I reading this right? This guy is saying that all the penelties this kid receives is okay because he scores goals? Hope your not a coach and just some dumba$$ parent.
with all due respect, I do not believe you are reading the commentary correctly. My understanding is that the post is trying to establish that the "kid' never got "8" flags in a game, ever. But rather that the original post which accused the kid of that "falsehood" was incorrect. Instead stating that the kid only had 2 flags at most, while scoring 6 goals. The accusation about the penalties was unfounded and incorrect.
You guys are all an embarassment to 91 and Express. You all need to get a life.
2020 Blue still doesn't have a coach. Take the money and run.
Isn't Keith W the 2020 Blue coach?
not sure. Did nothing for winter season.
I am getting a bit confused on here reading this...are the Turtles a set team of kids or are they always the 6th grade team?
Originally Posted by LaxMom13
I am getting a bit confused on here reading this...are the Turtles a set team of kids or are they always the 6th grade team?
Turtles are a set 7th grade team. They, just like every other team, occasionally replace/add new players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by LaxMom13
I am getting a bit confused on here reading this...are the Turtles a set team of kids or are they always the 6th grade team?
Turtles are a set 7th grade team. They, just like every other team, occasionally replace/add new players.
They are always 2017 - last year they were 6th, this year they are 7th and next year they will be 8th, if they move to Maryland they will be 8th again the following year
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by LaxMom13
I am getting a bit confused on here reading this...are the Turtles a set team of kids or are they always the 6th grade team?
Turtles are a set 7th grade team. They, just like every other team, occasionally replace/add new players.
They are always 2017 - last year they were 6th, this year they are 7th and next year they will be 8th, if they move to Maryland they will be 8th again the following year
lol!! nice! LI LAX baby!
Ha sad but true, more of a Baltimore thing though not all of MD. I dont understand how the teams and players justify it. its no different then playing down a level. At u15 lets see how they play against high school jv teams, because thats what they really are. Working the system still makes it wrong. Hope the parents of these kids can give them a hold back in life. Oh sorry boss I did not get my project/ contract/ deal done cant I just wait until I dont have to work harder than our competition.
You need to look at the bigger picture...junior graduates HS at 18/19 then heads to prep then becomes a freshman at 20 years old.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You need to look at the bigger picture...junior graduates HS at 18/19 then heads to prep then becomes a freshman at 20 years old.
so what, I would rather have my son graduate from an Ivy at 24 then a State School at 22 - this is the normal path for hockey players and if those two years gets you into an Ivy it is well worth it. and i think the majority of kids going to prep schools already know where they are going after a year and the prep year is either to get better scholastically or to mature physically, either way if that is whats best for your kid go for it.
I should have stated that it was not my philosophy just a trend I see driven by parents and accepted more and more by colleges. The simple theory of having a stronger and older player on the field. Look no further than the NYPLL organization.
First obll game of season for 2017 express orange dominated fl$ with a score of 15 to 0
LOL ok thank you!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First obll game of season for 2017 express orange dominated fl$ with a score of 15 to 0
Rumor has it that 91, the trurtles, outlawas and most other 7th grade teams has disbanned after this one win by express orange! Last year this team played tournaments with overage kids. Are they doing it again this year?
Don't be a hater.....they are one of the best teams in the tri-state region. Coaching and organization are top-notch. Game was over in the first 5 min. Looking at a AA team this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First obll game of season for 2017 express orange dominated fl$ with a score of 15 to 0
Rumor has it that 91, the trurtles, outlawas and most other 7th grade teams has disbanned after this one win by express orange! Last year this team played tournaments with overage kids. Are they doing it again this year?
All 7th graders to my knowledge, my son is on the team. Great group of hard working players that are starring to gel. By you mentioning Turtles in the same class of ability as 91 & Outlaws just shows your clueless to the middle school age of travel lax. Your sarcasm is not comical its silly & bitter. Grow up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't be a hater.....they are one of the best teams in the tri-state region. Coaching and organization are top-notch. Game was over in the first 5 min. Looking at a AA team this year.
LMAO your funny,
You have four fathers coaching your team, and you have one win over a mediocre fl$ team so far, let's take it easy.
Put a couple of wins together and win a tournament or two before your start putting the kids in the hall of fame.
I would like to see 2017 Express Korwan play 2017 Express McManus, Korwan,s team has some very strong players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would like to see 2017 Express Korwan play 2017 Express McManus, Korwan,s team has some very strong players.
Yup, true. Korwan team has some strong players. But I will say that our Express Orange (McManuss) has been coming together very nicely the past month. I know I know it's indoor but our last four games our kids defeated 8th grade fl$ team, tied 8th grade Jesters, beat 7th grade Hotshots by 5 or 6 and destroy (OBLL) a good 7th grade fl$ team 15-0. So I like our chances against anyone because our parnets, coaches and most importantly our players are starting to see the chemistry form.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would like to see 2017 Express Korwan play 2017 Express McManus, Korwan,s team has some very strong players.
Yup, true. Korwan team has some strong players. But I will say that our Express Orange (McManuss) has been coming together very nicely the past month. I know I know it's indoor but our last four games our kids defeated 8th grade fl$ team, tied 8th grade Jesters, beat 7th grade Hotshots by 5 or 6 and destroy (OBLL) a good 7th grade fl$ team 15-0. So I like our chances against anyone because our parnets, coaches and most importantly our players are starting to see the chemistry form.
Just keep winning and there is no need to come on this board and blow your own horn. Let someone else tell you that you are the top team - then it means something. With all your boasting, every 7/8 grade will be gunning for you guys. My son isn't in this age group but I wish he was because I would love to see what the "top team in the tri-state area" looks like. A special trip to an OBLL game might be in order.
Glad to see McManus's team doing well. My son plays for Korwans team and he has a bunch of friends on that team. Looking forward to a great game when we finally play each other. Between the Turtles, McManus and Korwans team, Express will dominate this spring and summer!
Oh brother...at least spell your??? coaches name right. 1 win and you are crowing already. Make sure you can eat that crow when the time comes!!!!!!
I agree. With these 3 teams turtles-AA, McManuss-AA, Korwin-A we have a trio of teams that will be a force this spring/summer. Many pictures going on the website this year!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh brother...at least spell your??? coaches name right. 1 win and you are crowing already. Make sure you can eat that crow when the time comes!!!!!!
Hey CHAMP, we've (Express 2017 Orange McManus) lost before and we will handle a lost well if & when it happens again! We listen to some of you tools on here rip our kids when we lost to our 6th grade Orange team in the Fall. Some of u destroyed our kids verbal on this angry filled board, that wasn't cool. So we know how to EAT CROW.
I just can't understand the nonsense involved with this Team. We have many good Express Teams that win games every weekend, but we don't need to hear about it. Why the need for Express 2017 Orange to be so worried what everybody thinks about them.
Let's just all say they are the best, and not hear about it from these parents anymore. we don't see the Turtle/ 2016 Orange Parents boasting everytime they win a game. I think we should all chip in for therapy with this Team.
Let's just all say they are the best, and not hear about it from these parents anymore. we don't see the Turtle/ 2016 Orange Parents boasting everytime they win a game. I think we should all chip in for therapy with this Team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh brother...at least spell your??? coaches name right. 1 win and you are crowing already. Make sure you can eat that crow when the time comes!!!!!!
Hey CHAMP, we've (Express 2017 Orange McManus) lost before and we will handle a lost well if & when it happens again! We listen to some of you tools on here rip our kids when we lost to our 6th grade Orange team in the Fall. Some of u destroyed our kids verbal on this angry filled board, that wasn't cool. So we know how to EAT CROW.
Did a 2017 express team really lose to a 2018 express team or was that just some BS being made up by 91 parents, that is crazy, lots of haters out there
you are right.
Please do not put Korwan"s team, with Turtles and McManus.They are the Blue team, until they show it on the field not on paper.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please do not put Korwan"s team, with Turtles and McManus.They are the Blue team, until they show it on the field not on paper.
FYI.... Korwan team is not the Blue team you can check with the Express if you would like or just go to the LIE website and look at the 2011 fall tournament winners page, that being said McMannus Orange and Korwan Piranhas are both A teams. Most important is we are proud to be a part of the Express organization and look forward to great competition from all this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please do not put Korwan"s team, with Turtles and McManus.They are the Blue team, until they show it on the field not on paper.
Please do not put McManus' team with Turtles. They were the Orange and are not AA until they show it on the field not on paper (or a forum of opinions).
Sound familiar
Think first!
FYI- McManus lost to Express 2018 orange, while Korwan beat Express 2018 orange
Korwans Team won Skull and Bones Tournament as well as beat many 8th grade teams indoors this winter. The team does speed and agility as well as practice every week. I think your color blind. McManus beats one decent team with a half of a roster and every one is going crazy. I am not saying they are not good they are but relax. Lets see what happens in the next few weekends.
Attention to all 2017 teams entered in the OBLL:
Apparently there is a team so superior to all of you that is seems pointless to even bother playing the games. We have been notified that Long Island has its first AAA Youth lacrosse team based on one win in the OBLL on its first weekend. Congratulations to the 2017 LI Express Orange team for being the best team in the country at its age group. The Turtles and the rest of Long Islands 2017 lax teams might as well quit playing lacrosse and take up baseball or something.
Sigh and I had such high hopes for my sons team.........
Apparently there is a team so superior to all of you that is seems pointless to even bother playing the games. We have been notified that Long Island has its first AAA Youth lacrosse team based on one win in the OBLL on its first weekend. Congratulations to the 2017 LI Express Orange team for being the best team in the country at its age group. The Turtles and the rest of Long Islands 2017 lax teams might as well quit playing lacrosse and take up baseball or something.
Sigh and I had such high hopes for my sons team.........
You know who is ducking McManuss..they dont want them anytime soon. They can play up and hide up all the wantt..Orange are the team to beat now.
I'll bite. What team might that be?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You know who is ducking McManuss..they dont want them anytime soon. They can play up and hide up all the wantt..Orange are the team to beat now.
thanks for the chuckle, funniest thing ive read in a while
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'll bite. What team might that be?
2018 LIExpreess Orange?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You know who is ducking McManuss..they dont want them anytime soon. They can play up and hide up all the wantt..Orange are the team to beat now.
I would say if the offer was thrown out there, the team you think is "ducking" McManus team would gladly show up and play them
Is the Express still playing in the NPYLL?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the Express still playing in the NPYLL?
National (AA) U/15 Teams
Breakers, Cannons, Club Blue, Crabs, Hawks, MadLax, MD Elite, Next Level, Rock, Zingos
National (AA) U/13 Teams
Arden, Bethesda, Breakers, Cannons, Club Blue, Crabs, Fearless, Generals, Hawks, MadLax, MLC, Next Level, Rock, Zingos
National (AA) U/11 Teams
Bethesda, Breakers, Cannons, Club Blue, Fearless, Hawks, MD Elite, MLC, Next Level Zingos
American (A) U/15 Teams
Bethesda, Cannons, Cavaliers, Club Blue, Cobras, Generals, MadLax, MD Elite, Next Level, Zingos
American (A) U/13 Teams
Arden, Breakers, Bethesda, Cannons, Club Blue, Generals, Hawks, Hotstix, MadLax Blue, MadLax White, MD Elite, Next Level, Rock, Zingos
American (A) U/11 Teams
Arden Blue, Arden Green, Bethesda, Club Blue, Generals, MadLax, MLC, Next Level
Since LI Express has not posted on its web site the tournaments in which its teams will be participating I thought I'd share that it appears the LI Express 2017 and 2016 teams are signed up for the Crabfeast Young Gun Tournament on July 7-8. Go Chargers!
From the Young Guns website:
Crabs 2016 and 2017 --
L I Express 2016 and 2017
Ct Chargers 2016s and 2017
NXT LC 2016
L I Riptide 2016
Next Level 2016 and 2017 --
CNY RoadHawks 2016 and 2017 --
Greene Turtle 2016 and 2017 --
Laxachusetts 2016 and 2017
Canadian Edge 2016 and 2017
From the Young Guns website:
Crabs 2016 and 2017 --
L I Express 2016 and 2017
Ct Chargers 2016s and 2017
NXT LC 2016
L I Riptide 2016
Next Level 2016 and 2017 --
CNY RoadHawks 2016 and 2017 --
Greene Turtle 2016 and 2017 --
Laxachusetts 2016 and 2017
Canadian Edge 2016 and 2017
Looks like Express added a new tryout due to demand on their website.
Eligible Teams: 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021
Eligible Teams: 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021
nothing for 2022? lol
Originally Posted by acblax
Looks like Express added a new tryout due to demand on their website.
Eligible Teams: 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021
Eligible Teams: 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021
Overwhelming, or do they (management) feel as if they are lacking something!!!!!!!!!!! If I were on one of those teams, I wouldn't be happy..... Wait, isn't that their M.O. Add kids all throughout the season.
Originally Posted by LaxDad#14
Originally Posted by acblax
Looks like Express added a new tryout due to demand on their website.
Eligible Teams: 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021
Eligible Teams: 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021
Overwhelming, or do they (management) feel as if they are lacking something!!!!!!!!!!! If I were on one of those teams, I wouldn't be happy..... Wait, isn't that their M.O. Add kids all throughout the season.
or maybe they feel they filling a void, either kids that are not happy with the teams they are currently playing for and would rather be on the express or younger players that did not try out for teams in the fall and now would like to play somewhere. I doubt that the organization would do something like this unless they felt there was a market. and instead of mocking them lets wait and see if they have a turnout and they do in fact no what they are doing.
If anyhody should be starting another 2021 team, it should be the Jesters. $250.00 dollars and they can play.
Anyone now how the 2018 Orange and 2019 Orange teams did today against the out of state teams .
2019 had a strong showing. The first game against the NJ team was a shutout score was ~7 or 8 to 0.
The second game was exciting as the boys were asked to play against Laxachusetts as one team was a no show. The boys were winded and got behind 3-0 at the half and another goal in the second half put them at 4-0. They got their wind back and started to gel. They won 5-4.
The last game was against the same team from Boston. I believe the final was 5-3 Express.
Nice group of kids, parents and coaches on both sides today.
The second game was exciting as the boys were asked to play against Laxachusetts as one team was a no show. The boys were winded and got behind 3-0 at the half and another goal in the second half put them at 4-0. They got their wind back and started to gel. They won 5-4.
The last game was against the same team from Boston. I believe the final was 5-3 Express.
Nice group of kids, parents and coaches on both sides today.
2018 Orange won both of their games.
Express 2020 played at the Shamrock as the "Admirals". Couldn't miss the 15 boys wearing Express helmets.Lost championship to 91 orange 14-1.
Originally Posted by Goaliesdad
2019 had a strong showing. The first game against the NJ team was a shutout score was ~7 or 8 to 0.
The second game was exciting as the boys were asked to play against Laxachusetts as one team was a no show. The boys were winded and got behind 3-0 at the half and another goal in the second half put them at 4-0. They got their wind back and started to gel. They won 5-4.
The last game was against the same team from Boston. I believe the final was 5-3 Express.
Nice group of kids, parents and coaches on both sides today.
The second game was exciting as the boys were asked to play against Laxachusetts as one team was a no show. The boys were winded and got behind 3-0 at the half and another goal in the second half put them at 4-0. They got their wind back and started to gel. They won 5-4.
The last game was against the same team from Boston. I believe the final was 5-3 Express.
Nice group of kids, parents and coaches on both sides today.
What tourney did you play?
No tournament. Just 3 games.
Wow, 2/3 games with out-of-state teams. What a great preseason idea. On LI or elsewhere?
Orange went 3 for 3. It was a local event.
Thanks Goalie dad. Good luck for the season. Hearing nothing but good things about you guys (coaches, boys, families).
Are the tryouts to field an additional team or to fill spots on current rosters?
I feel that I should apologize for mocking express for having a 2021 team, i just heard the team 91 had tryouts for a 2022 team last week! what are these parents thinking? i would wager that more than half these kids can't even spell lacrosse! what's next a pre-k team?
laxmom- you should contact them directly about your child's age group, it might be different answers for different grades. IE 2020 might be adding teams while 2021 may b making new teams. these forums are more for opinions then facts and for facts you should always try to go to the source and not reply on anonymous posts from people with agendas
HUH! If anyone knows the facts.. Isnt that what we are looking for
I heard the 2018 Express Orange was in Maryland this past weekend playing - who did they play and how did they do?
they played the 7th grade crab team and got beat soundly.
they also played a 6th grade texas team and won in a very close game.
Long drive for 2 games...
they also played a 6th grade texas team and won in a very close game.
Long drive for 2 games...
This is our first year participating in travel Lacrosse. My son is on 2019 white Long Island Express. We have won 2 games in this spring session. We play Outlaws almost every weekend. Practice and game notification are always last minute notice. We have one coach. This team needs help. My sons PAL team puts in more effort. I don't understand? The coach is very nice and knows how to teach the boys, however something seems amiss. The team is also a combined 5 & 6th grade team. Any advice? Does anyone know if LIE gives refunds if you are dissatisfied?
2019 6th grade ??? something is amiss
If you are taking about notifications to the Oyster league games (spring games), you are in the same boat as all of all teams in it. Some of us seem to handle it a bit better than others. i would not blame the coach.
If possible stick with it and see how it turns out for the summer.
I have heard Mike c. has always listen to parents when they needed to speak to him.
If possible stick with it and see how it turns out for the summer.
I have heard Mike c. has always listen to parents when they needed to speak to him.
You Have do understand express dosn't care about putting together good teams, they just want has many teams has possible. all about the $$$$$$
I think both the above statements are true - they want as many teams as possible and it is a business so it is all about the money, but Mike C is a salesman and he does listen because he does not want to lose customers- particularly a 2019 potential long term customer
Originally Posted by schatzi
This is our first year participating in travel Lacrosse. My son is on 2019 white Long Island Express. We have won 2 games in this spring session. We play Outlaws almost every weekend. Practice and game notification are always last minute notice. We have one coach. This team needs help. My sons PAL team puts in more effort. I don't understand? The coach is very nice and knows how to teach the boys, however something seems amiss. The team is also a combined 5 & 6th grade team. Any advice? Does anyone know if LIE gives refunds if you are dissatisfied?
I know another parent who feels the same way, and has voiced concern to Mike C. He told them that the team will be getting split up and existing coach will handle 6th grade, while a new coach will handle the 5th grade team. I can only assume that new players are being added to these teams from the most recent tryouts. I suggest you stick it out till end of the tournament season, as I don't think you can get a refund.
Mike C is very nice however.when you have customers "investing" big bucks ( orange, blue & white paying the same) : payment, helmet Express gear etc.) and you get no responses from anyone or one word responses it is a bit inconsiderate.Too - whenever some of the parents asked what the full price was after we had to make the first 500$ payment none of us ever got a response until it was time to be fitted for uniforms and we were 1000$ deep. As parents show consideration by letting team leaders know if we will be late or cannot make a practice , we are consistantly hanging by a thread. I'm glad (sort of) to hear that other OB teams are getting the same treatment. I really feel this team is not encouraging to my sons skills other than the practices, where it has become a good learning tool. He is also getting hardly any playing time, in for three minutes , whistle blows & line change. The coaches starters are on the field most of the time and we get blown out every weekend.
Sorry to hear of your experience, having been through the circuit, sometimes its the organization, sometimes it the coaches.
If its the organization stick with the coaches... If its the coaches LEAVE.
But be careful it is cyclical...
If its the organization stick with the coaches... If its the coaches LEAVE.
But be careful it is cyclical...
This is common throughout travel teams, same posting yesterday on 91 forum. If the coaches have a son on team he will utilized him to no end to up his game regardless if he is dead wood or not and if there is top talent ahead of him he will make sure to only utilize them to make his/her own son look like the allstar, who will argue with a coach when your own son is at his mercy with playing time. The fact is get rid of parent coaching and see what happens to that kid then.. chances are he wouldnt even be a thought during tryouts.
Sad shame that parent coaching on travel is all about the coaches son , at the cost of others.
Originally Posted by schatzi
Mike C is very nice however.when you have customers "investing" big bucks ( orange, blue & white paying the same) : payment, helmet Express gear etc.) and you get no responses from anyone or one word responses it is a bit inconsiderate.Too - whenever some of the parents asked what the full price was after we had to make the first 500$ payment none of us ever got a response until it was time to be fitted for uniforms and we were 1000$ deep. As parents show consideration by letting team leaders know if we will be late or cannot make a practice , we are consistantly hanging by a thread. I'm glad (sort of) to hear that other OB teams are getting the same treatment. I really feel this team is not encouraging to my sons skills other than the practices, where it has become a good learning tool. He is also getting hardly any playing time, in for three minutes , whistle blows & line change. The coaches starters are on the field most of the time and we get blown out every weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think both the above statements are true - they want as many teams as possible and it is a business so it is all about the money, but Mike C is a salesman and he does listen because he does not want to lose customers- particularly a 2019 potential long term customer
I think you're 100% wrong. We saw this in every team while with the Express for 3 years. We left. We wanted a place where our concerns were addressed and the teams were well run and coached.
How many 2019 teams are there? Are the others happy 
Do you think 5th grade is too young to start travel lacrosse?
I ran into someone the other day and they said that kids start getting looked at starting in 7th grade under the rug? Any truth? Is burn out a concern for anyone? My kid does like to play other sports.
There are three 2019 teams on LIE. They just had tryouts for more. Are they all happy? Probably, blue and orange have the esteemed coaches and more than likely exceptionable players.
@ Anonymous - you stayed for three years with LIE , what age were your kids at and where are you now that you are happier? Why three years?
Also , the coach of my sons team has one coach only and none of his own children on the team.When you say cyclical - meaning most teams are run in this fashion? I do like my sons coach , I do think he cares but I do think he needs help.
I ran into someone the other day and they said that kids start getting looked at starting in 7th grade under the rug? Any truth? Is burn out a concern for anyone? My kid does like to play other sports.
There are three 2019 teams on LIE. They just had tryouts for more. Are they all happy? Probably, blue and orange have the esteemed coaches and more than likely exceptionable players.
@ Anonymous - you stayed for three years with LIE , what age were your kids at and where are you now that you are happier? Why three years?
Also , the coach of my sons team has one coach only and none of his own children on the team.When you say cyclical - meaning most teams are run in this fashion? I do like my sons coach , I do think he cares but I do think he needs help.
i think when you have your child play summer/travel lacrosse is a function of your child and how interested they are in the game and how much they want to play. I have three boys, and two of them wanted to play 5th grade Summer lax and they both loved it. I would encourage multiple sports if your child wants to do that to avoid burn out and to develop different/complementary skill sets - basketball and lax go well together; as does hockey and lax for example.
Again, they just want the money as well. If your sons were so good in there town position why are they playing different positions beacause they are noot good enough
Part of what I feel your dues on a travel team go for is paid coaches. Too many parent coaches have their own agenda for their kids and the kids friends. While town ball coaches are volunteer, travel coaches are typically paid and should not include parents as coaches. Ask going in what the coaching senerio is, if its a parent to a kid on the team, find another team,fast.
Some express parent coaches are worth their weight in.... Gold!
I perused travel lacrosse for my son to receive better instruction. The town program where I live is only two years old and the boys are very mixed in talent. Simple catching and passing become frustrating when a basic skill needs to be practiced and your child is at a different level. He still plays on that team though because they are his friends and the fundamentals of having fun with your friends is very important. My son has been playing much longer in a different town , however that program fizzled out. I wanted him playing with better players to bring up his game. In the past my experience was that the better kids he played with the better he actually played and the more he learned. I will say playing on on LIE has definitely boosted his knowledge/strategy & confidence. I do wish he would get more play time, unfortunately he is one of two 5th graders playing on a 6th grade team & the coach really hasn't given him a chance.
3 payments of $600 $1800
ASK TO PLAY ON A 5TH GRADE TEAM THERE ARE ENOUGH BOYS TO CARRY QUITE A FEW TEAMS
very impressive that you're sending you're 4th grade Orange "A" team to lehigh to play in a 3rd/4th grade division.
Just like 91 2018 A team playing in 5th-6th....
91 2018 is at least playing in the "A" division. No breakout in 3rd/4th. Hope you're proud. If Orange crush was at Lehigh Express Orange would run back to fl$ tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just like 91 2018 A team playing in 5th-6th....
......and Team 91 2019 Orange playing in the 5th/6th grade B division. What's your point?
Try to remember that if he is good enough to be playing up, the experience from the practices and the coaching if it is good, far outweighs the lack of playing time. To many people forget, when they are in 5/6 grade, no one remembers who won what! It's all about the experience.
The playing time will come. Just think he is learning and experiencing things that other 5th graders aren't so he will be a step ahead of them.
The playing time will come. Just think he is learning and experiencing things that other 5th graders aren't so he will be a step ahead of them.
so where did you go
just having fun watching you get worked up. can't we all just get along?
actually the point is that 91 and express never seem to go head to head in tournaments. Are they both afraid of losing to each other? Two vaunted rivals who refuse to get into the ring. It's too bad for the kids.
Tristate has the potential divisions up and it looks as if some Express teams will face some 91 teams (along with a few other LI teams).
Good luck to all.
BTG
Good luck to all.
BTG
Originally Posted by Anonymous
actually the point is that 91 and express never seem to go head to head in tournaments. Are they both afraid of losing to each other? Two vaunted rivals who refuse to get into the ring. It's too bad for the kids.
If I am not mistaken, the Turtles have an open invitation for 91 2017 Orange to play with them.
91 2018 also has an open invitation to play express 2018 orange. Channy prefers to play 5th graders and shows up with 35 players.
My son plays for another team in this age group, I do know players from both teams who we played with. It seems to me that both teams are making moves and avoiding the other. 91 got much bigger and stronger during the winter and the Turtles went and tried to make themselves bigger. The Turtles dominate at the faceoff dot and control the ball, 91 went and got a tough, big faceoff guy to eliminate that. They are both going to Lehigh but in diffrent groupings. Turtles are playing 7/8 A and 91 already has the 2016 teams in that bracket so the 2017 is playing 7/8 B. I guess they will never play each other
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Huh
did you mean "huh" or hahahahahah
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son plays for another team in this age group, I do know players from both teams who we played with. It seems to me that both teams are making moves and avoiding the other. 91 got much bigger and stronger during the winter and the Turtles went and tried to make themselves bigger. The Turtles dominate at the faceoff dot and control the ball, 91 went and got a tough, big faceoff guy to eliminate that. They are both going to Lehigh but in diffrent groupings. Turtles are playing 7/8 A and 91 already has the 2016 teams in that bracket so the 2017 is playing 7/8 B. I guess they will never play each other
What made you invest all this time to scribe this worthless statement? One big middie from KP isn't going to run over the Turtles. Every T contributes to their success. Good luck this summer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
actually the point is that 91 and express never seem to go head to head in tournaments. Are they both afraid of losing to each other? Two vaunted rivals who refuse to get into the ring. It's too bad for the kids.
If I am not mistaken, the Turtles have an open invitation for 91 2017 Orange to play with them.
Lot of "invitations" seem to be out there but no RSVP by either side.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son plays for another team in this age group, I do know players from both teams who we played with. It seems to me that both teams are making moves and avoiding the other. 91 got much bigger and stronger during the winter and the Turtles went and tried to make themselves bigger. The Turtles dominate at the faceoff dot and control the ball, 91 went and got a tough, big faceoff guy to eliminate that. They are both going to Lehigh but in diffrent groupings. Turtles are playing 7/8 A and 91 already has the 2016 teams in that bracket so the 2017 is playing 7/8 B. I guess they will never play each other
What made you invest all this time to scribe this worthless statement? One big middie from KP isn't going to run over the Turtles. Every T contributes to their success. Good luck this summer
One big Middie from KP isn,t going to run over the Turtles but a big team has JD trying to retool midstream, why else try to get a big Blue De-man from Bayville to come down and work out with the Turtles and see how they do things just 1 week before the summer tournaments begin. Who else has gotten calls? Who is being cut loose?
Which Express 2017 team will be playing in Woodbridge, CT this weekend?
Orange Crush is a two man show, rest of the team is mediocre at best. Once long poles get introduced those two will be neutralized and Express will roll over you...they're getting better and you're treading water at best...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]My son plays for another team in this age group, I do know players from both teams who we played with. It seems to me that both teams are making moves and avoiding the other. 91 got much bigger and stronger during the winter and the Turtles went and tried to make themselves bigger. The Turtles dominate at the faceoff dot and control the ball, 91 went and got a tough, big faceoff guy to eliminate that. They are both going to Lehigh but in diffrent groupings. Turtles are playing 7/8 A and 91 already has the 2016 teams in that bracket so the 2017 is playing 7/8 B. I guess they will never play each other
What made you invest all this time to scribe this worthless statement? One big middie from KP isn't going to run over the Turtles. Every T contributes to their success. Good luck this summer
One big Middie from KP isn,t going to run over the Turtles but a big team has JD trying to retool midstream, why else try to get a big Blue De-man from Bayville to come down and work out with the Turtles and see how they do things just 1 week before the summer tournaments begin. Who else has gotten calls? Who is being cut loose? [/quote
You might want to lay off the hemp. No truth to that. Move along.
Hey Crush... Hope severs doesnt creep into those heels before the summer lets out. It just cant be healthy letting your son play that much over a two day span.
Let alone when there is a bench of players to take some minutes.
Let alone when there is a bench of players to take some minutes.
So because Turtles look at a player during the season and JD's team is doomed? Really? I'm pretty sure he does that from time to time. They looked at another De-Man from Express a few weeks ago, doesn't mean they are crumbling.
Having seen both of these teams My boy is on 5th exp. Lets be honest those two boys are phenomenal but that entire team is really really really good and those kids are all on the same page. Way ahead of our 4th grade but remember there 4th grade things can change as the kids grow.
Biggest express issue with our 4th and 5th grade programs Why do we oNLY play our age group, we have to challenge our kids!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So because Turtles look at a player during the season and JD's team is doomed? Really? I'm pretty sure he does that from time to time. They looked at another De-Man from Express a few weeks ago, doesn't mean they are crumbling.
Looking at new players is fine, but out and out recruiting in season is borderline cheap. What does it say to your own players, we like you but might replace you, no your my goalie but we're bringing one in, your my faceoff guy but we're bringing one in BUT only to take a look. As far as no truth to the rumours PHONE records can convict in courts so be careful with the denials.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Crush... Hope severs doesnt creep into those heels before the summer lets out. It just cant be healthy letting your son play that much over a two day span.
Let alone when there is a bench of players to take some minutes.
Let alone when there is a bench of players to take some minutes.
That is so not even close to being funny, my son has been living with severs for two years and it sucks and you are a jerk for joking about an 11 year old getting this - you sir should rot in [lacrosse] and have you kid play baseball (is that redundant?)
No it is not cheap; because it wasnt not meant to be funny!
IT WAS A WARNING!
Coming from having to deal with servers as well, along with osgood slatter.
rememeber anti-inflamitories are no good for a growing body's bones!
Use your subs.
IT WAS A WARNING!
Coming from having to deal with servers as well, along with osgood slatter.
rememeber anti-inflamitories are no good for a growing body's bones!
Use your subs.
I am quite sure when the tournaments were picked neither 91 or Express (fl$ JESTERS TEAM LI TRUE BLUE etc) knew/consulted the other on which tournaments to attend.
Or if they did, agreed why do they have to go to the same tournaments. Wouldnt that get boring fast.
(but probably just decided to boycott the tournaments the other one was afiliated with)
But ever since the teams were told which games they were going to we all second guessed everything as far as why arent we at the same venues or why are we in a certain bracket.
IMO If there are 1 or 2 tournaments where we face each other shouldnt that be good enough.
As far as which level (moving up) - you never know who you are going to get in a tournament until the teams attending are released. Then you can jockey for your correct position.
Or if they did, agreed why do they have to go to the same tournaments. Wouldnt that get boring fast.
(but probably just decided to boycott the tournaments the other one was afiliated with)
But ever since the teams were told which games they were going to we all second guessed everything as far as why arent we at the same venues or why are we in a certain bracket.
IMO If there are 1 or 2 tournaments where we face each other shouldnt that be good enough.
As far as which level (moving up) - you never know who you are going to get in a tournament until the teams attending are released. Then you can jockey for your correct position.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So because Turtles look at a player during the season and JD's team is doomed? Really? I'm pretty sure he does that from time to time. They looked at another De-Man from Express a few weeks ago, doesn't mean they are crumbling.
Looking at new players is fine, but out and out recruiting in season is borderline cheap. What does it say to your own players, we like you but might replace you, no your my goalie but we're bringing one in, your my faceoff guy but we're bringing one in BUT only to take a look. As far as no truth to the rumours PHONE records can convict in courts so be careful with the denials.
If TB is so afraid of losing a kid who goes to a training session they are obviously doing something wrong. Let the kids play wherever makes them happy and they get better, everyone should stop acting as if these kids are under contract. THEY PAY YOU. The only thing that is cheap is coaches bullying kids and parents into not to get the best training they can. Its about the kids not about your record or cash cow
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So because Turtles look at a player during the season and JD's team is doomed? Really? I'm pretty sure he does that from time to time. They looked at another De-Man from Express a few weeks ago, doesn't mean they are crumbling.
Looking at new players is fine, but out and out recruiting in season is borderline cheap. What does it say to your own players, we like you but might replace you, no your my goalie but we're bringing one in, your my faceoff guy but we're bringing one in BUT only to take a look. As far as no truth to the rumours PHONE records can convict in courts so be careful with the denials.
If TB is so afraid of losing a kid who goes to a training session they are obviously doing something wrong. Let the kids play wherever makes them happy and they get better, everyone should stop acting as if these kids are under contract. THEY PAY YOU. The only thing that is cheap is coaches bullying kids and parents into not to get the best training they can. Its about the kids not about your record or cash cow
It seems to me the team that is recruiting a player or players is the team that is afraid. It appears that the big sell didn't go over to well the player stayed with TB. Whats wrong is a team making like everything is all warm and cuddly with their own players while looking for the next new toy,
Can it NOT be viewed as WRONG? It is simply SLEAZY to do the "recruiting/ coaxing away" thing in the mid-season. Possibly YOU drink the most KOOL-AID of ALL!
That would be more "KOOL-AID" as well. Believe what you are told..... Have you noticed the amount of VERY talented athletes surfacing at ALL age divisions, and from MANY areas? A reality that we may face soon is that there are MANY teams who can out-muscle the FORMER kid-superstars. The large check book and willingness to work hard is NO substitute for raw power and God-given natural talent. That big KP kid is only part of a strong team. A team of good kids, coached by an extremely competent staff.
Enjoy it....while it lasts
Enjoy it....while it lasts
I know little about these teams but saying a dominant face off guy can not make a big difference is mistaken. If you go from a guy who head to head was winning 30% of his faceoffs to a FOGO who wins 70% that translates into less goals from one team, more for the other
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That would be more "KOOL-AID" as well. Believe what you are told..... Have you noticed the amount of VERY talented athletes surfacing at ALL age divisions, and from MANY areas? A reality that we may face soon is that there are MANY teams who can out-muscle the FORMER kid-superstars. The large check book and willingness to work hard is NO substitute for raw power and God-given natural talent. That big KP kid is only part of a strong team. A team of good kids, coached by an extremely competent staff.
Enjoy it....while it lasts
Enjoy it....while it lasts
That FORMER superstar straight 7 th grade team went 3-1 yesterday at Lehigh in 7/8A bracket hand 91 2016 white a 8-3 loss. Imagine the hurt they would put on 2017.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That would be more "KOOL-AID" as well. Believe what you are told..... Have you noticed the amount of VERY talented athletes surfacing at ALL age divisions, and from MANY areas? A reality that we may face soon is that there are MANY teams who can out-muscle the FORMER kid-superstars. The large check book and willingness to work hard is NO substitute for raw power and God-given natural talent. That big KP kid is only part of a strong team. A team of good kids, coached by an extremely competent staff.
Enjoy it....while it lasts
Enjoy it....while it lasts
That FORMER superstar straight 7 th grade team went 3-1 yesterday at Lehigh in 7/8A bracket hand 91 2016 white a 8-3 loss. Imagine the hurt they would put on 2017.
Too bad they lost to Victor in the third game. They are not invincible in the 2017 bracket.
Any results from weekend tourneys? fl$, Lehigh or Yale?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That would be more "KOOL-AID" as well. Believe what you are told..... Have you noticed the amount of VERY talented athletes surfacing at ALL age divisions, and from MANY areas? A reality that we may face soon is that there are MANY teams who can out-muscle the FORMER kid-superstars. The large check book and willingness to work hard is NO substitute for raw power and God-given natural talent. That big KP kid is only part of a strong team. A team of good kids, coached by an extremely competent staff.
Enjoy it....while it lasts
Enjoy it....while it lasts
That FORMER superstar straight 7 th grade team went 3-1 yesterday at Lehigh in 7/8A bracket hand 91 2016 white a 8-3 loss. Imagine the hurt they would put on 2017.
Too bad they lost to Victor in the third game. They are not invincible in the 2017 bracket.
Obviously you missed something. They played in a 7/8A bracket as a straight 7 th grade team against bigger and stronger kids. Losing one game is not the end of the world and good to know how to handle not only the wins. BTW they ARE invincible in the 2017 age group. Not defined by my words but by record. Good day sir!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That would be more "KOOL-AID" as well. Believe what you are told..... Have you noticed the amount of VERY talented athletes surfacing at ALL age divisions, and from MANY areas? A reality that we may face soon is that there are MANY teams who can out-muscle the FORMER kid-superstars. The large check book and willingness to work hard is NO substitute for raw power and God-given natural talent. That big KP kid is only part of a strong team. A team of good kids, coached by an extremely competent staff.
Enjoy it....while it lasts
Enjoy it....while it lasts
That FORMER superstar straight 7 th grade team went 3-1 yesterday at Lehigh in 7/8A bracket hand 91 2016 white a 8-3 loss. Imagine the hurt they would put on 2017.
Play 91 Orange....
Too bad they lost to Victor in the third game. They are not invincible in the 2017 bracket.
Obviously you missed something. They played in a 7/8A bracket as a straight 7 th grade team against bigger and stronger kids. Losing one game is not the end of the world and good to know how to handle not only the wins. BTW they ARE invincible in the 2017 age group. Not defined by my words but by record. Good day sir!
LI Express 2017 Piranhas/Korwan made it to the championship game after beating fl$ at the fl$ tournament today. They lost to the very tough Gladiators in the championship game. Major talent on the Piranhas, this team stays together they will be unstoppable.
yeah.. but Victor is a "Town Team"..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yeah.. but Victor is a "Town Team"..
Yes Victor is a "Town Team " just like Smithtown and Sachem and West Islip and I could go on and on but you should get the picture, a very good town team. Same group that defeated the now 7th grade 91 group last year at Lehigh, and gave a very strong 8th grade 91 group a solid effort on Saturday in the Finals. I was there and watched the game, it seems the only person who it really bothered was JD, who lost his little mind berating his players and storming the field to convey his displeasure with the referees. Napoleon met his Waterloo on June 18,1815 in Belgium, JD met his June 16,2012 in Lehigh
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI Express 2017 Piranhas/Korwan made it to the championship game after beating fl$ at the fl$ tournament today. They lost to the very tough Gladiators in the championship game. Major talent on the Piranhas, this team stays together they will be unstoppable.
I agree, lot's of talent on that LI Express 2017 Piranhas/Korwan team across the board. Congratulations to a very good Gladiator team, it was a great championship game especially the first half.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yeah.. but Victor is a "Town Team"..
Yes Victor is a "Town Team " just like Smithtown and Sachem and West Islip and I could go on and on but you should get the picture, a very good town team. Same group that defeated the now 7th grade 91 group last year at Lehigh, and gave a very strong 8th grade 91 group a solid effort on Saturday in the Finals. I was there and watched the game, it seems the only person who it really bothered was JD, who lost his little mind berating his players and storming the field to convey his displeasure with the referees. Napoleon met his Waterloo on June 18,1815 in Belgium, JD met his June 16,2012 in Lehigh
OMG Historiclly correct and totally Hillarious
who is JD? is he with 91 or Turtles?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That would be more "KOOL-AID" as well. Believe what you are told..... Have you noticed the amount of VERY talented athletes surfacing at ALL age divisions, and from MANY areas? A reality that we may face soon is that there are MANY teams who can out-muscle the FORMER kid-superstars. The large check book and willingness to work hard is NO substitute for raw power and God-given natural talent. That big KP kid is only part of a strong team. A team of good kids, coached by an extremely competent staff.
Enjoy it....while it lasts
Enjoy it....while it lasts
That FORMER superstar straight 7 th grade team went 3-1 yesterday at Lehigh in 7/8A bracket hand 91 2016 white a 8-3 loss. Imagine the hurt they would put on 2017.
Too bad they lost to Victor in the third game. They are not invincible in the 2017 bracket.
Obviously you missed something. They played in a 7/8A bracket as a straight 7 th grade team against bigger and stronger kids. Losing one game is not the end of the world and good to know how to handle not only the wins. BTW they ARE invincible in the 2017 age group. Not defined by my words but by record. Good day sir!
I know what they played in. Like most true A teams, they can play up in a B bracket and win. Not competitive against true A teams at higher grade levels. Tell me who they beat at Lehigh that were true A teams?
Can someone tell me what other teams are playing up? And i'm not talking 4th grade and below. 5th into 6thA, 6th in 7thA or u-13A, 7th into 8th-A or u-15A, 8th into 9th or jv-A. for all the talk about how good all these clubs are I rarely see them challenging themselves. you have to at least give the turtles credit for taking the risk and playing in a tougher division than the 2017 at fl$ tourney or the 7/8th B at Legigh where all the other 2017 teams were.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone tell me what other teams are playing up? And i'm not talking 4th grade and below. 5th into 6thA, 6th in 7thA or u-13A, 7th into 8th-A or u-15A, 8th into 9th or jv-A. for all the talk about how good all these clubs are I rarely see them challenging themselves. you have to at least give the turtles credit for taking the risk and playing in a tougher division than the 2017 at fl$ tourney or the 7/8th B at Legigh where all the other 2017 teams were.
Now it's no good to play your age level? You have to play up to be considered good? Make up your mind all knowing and all powerful shelled ones!
if your going to play up.. don't cry when one of your kids get smashed!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone tell me what other teams are playing up? And i'm not talking 4th grade and below. 5th into 6thA, 6th in 7thA or u-13A, 7th into 8th-A or u-15A, 8th into 9th or jv-A. for all the talk about how good all these clubs are I rarely see them challenging themselves. you have to at least give the turtles credit for taking the risk and playing in a tougher division than the 2017 at fl$ tourney or the 7/8th B at Legigh where all the other 2017 teams were.
I'm not aware of any Express Orange teams that play up in the most competitive "A" or "AA" brackets. Like the prior poster said, most can play up but just in the B bracket. There is usually a wide gap between Orange teams by grade until you get to rising juniors when it gets closer. The current 2015 Orange team probably could not beat the 2014 Orange and similarily the 2016 Orange team would get run over by the 2015 Orange. Just the way it is.
2020 Express Orange won the 3/4th grade bracket at Lehigh.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is JD? is he with 91 or Turtles?
If you need to ask you don't need to know
This is why there needs to be some sort of ranking organizing system. Of course the first few weeks may be off a bit, but it gets the ball rolling.
If true A teams stick with true A ranking then there isnt this issue, but is there enough of those teams to go around. You dont want or need to play each other every weekend. A strong B or weak A should be abe to straddle the lines of Challenging themselves to play against A teams and wining against B teams. Even by challeneging themselves by playing up.
But if you are so interested in who the true A teams are can you start and list them. (you say you want to know from 5th up give it your best shot maybe seperate by location MD/PA/NJ/NY-LI/NY-west,CT, MA (NE) ).
but rememember only LI does it one year at a time everyone else blends the teams.
BTG
here is a chart to use to help the communtiy rank themselves. (copy to Word or Excel). For those interested in younger grades go ahead - for those who can rank B teams go ahead).
Born After
9/00 9/99 9/98 9/97 9/96
5th 6th 7th 8th JV Var
Region Rank A A A A A A
NY-li
1
2
3
4
5
NY West and UP
1
2
3
4
5
CT
1
2
3
4
5
New England
1
2
3
4
5
NJ
1
2
3
4
5
PA
1
2
3
4
5
MD
1
2
3
4
5
Wildcards
1
2
3
4
5
If true A teams stick with true A ranking then there isnt this issue, but is there enough of those teams to go around. You dont want or need to play each other every weekend. A strong B or weak A should be abe to straddle the lines of Challenging themselves to play against A teams and wining against B teams. Even by challeneging themselves by playing up.
But if you are so interested in who the true A teams are can you start and list them. (you say you want to know from 5th up give it your best shot maybe seperate by location MD/PA/NJ/NY-LI/NY-west,CT, MA (NE) ).
but rememember only LI does it one year at a time everyone else blends the teams.
BTG
here is a chart to use to help the communtiy rank themselves. (copy to Word or Excel). For those interested in younger grades go ahead - for those who can rank B teams go ahead).
Born After
9/00 9/99 9/98 9/97 9/96
5th 6th 7th 8th JV Var
Region Rank A A A A A A
NY-li
1
2
3
4
5
NY West and UP
1
2
3
4
5
CT
1
2
3
4
5
New England
1
2
3
4
5
NJ
1
2
3
4
5
PA
1
2
3
4
5
MD
1
2
3
4
5
Wildcards
1
2
3
4
5
When there is a tournament which details A and AA. there should be no need to play up.
At a local tournament. The designation of A is arbitrary. In this case, the top teams in the younger grade can play up in an A pool bracket.
At a local tournament. The designation of A is arbitrary. In this case, the top teams in the younger grade can play up in an A pool bracket.
You must be so proud. I bet those 3rd grade town teams you beat up were very impressed.
All of you piranhas parents stop talking about your team. Hate to break it to you, you guys aren't that good and the fog tournament is a joke. You could not match up with Tb, the real express orange,91 orange, and the turtles and I guarantee you will never be unstoppable, just stop talking nonsense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is JD? is he with 91 or Turtles?
If you need to ask you don't need to know
wow - what an A$$, some of us read these forums and are not "in the no" so it was a legit questions
I have to concur. How is a team unstoppable when they got smacked in a championship team? Not a good statement to make.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is JD? is he with 91 or Turtles?
If you need to ask you don't need to know
wow - what an A$$, some of us read these forums and are not "in the no" so it was a legit questions
Johnny Depp, Joe DiMaggio, James Dean, John Denver, Jimmy Durante, Johnny Damon, Jonathan Davis, Jimmy Dean, Judi Dench, JD Salinger, John Deere, John Dorian, Jack Dawson
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is JD? is he with 91 or Turtles?
If you need to ask you don't need to know
wow - what an A$$, some of us read these forums and are not "in the no" so it was a legit questions
Good point, the person did come off like an A$$. So, here is your info. JD is with Turtles. Founder of the team.
That person is probably JD himself or one of the other two Turtle coaches.
I would have to agree. Based on the way they conduct themselves on the field, that type of response would not surprise me. If Turtles are so good why is it their coaches are constantly riding refs, players and whoever else they can find to argue with to gain and advantage for their team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is JD? is he with 91 or Turtles?
If you need to ask you don't need to know
wow - what an A$$, some of us read these forums and are not "in the no" so it was a legit questions
Johnny Depp, Joe DiMaggio, James Dean, John Denver, Jimmy Durante, Johnny Damon, Jonathan Davis, Jimmy Dean, Judi Dench, JD Salinger, John Deere, John Dorian, Jack Dawson
Hey tool time, put down the Jack Daniels.... lol
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I would have to agree. Based on the way they conduct themselves on the field, that type of response would not surprise me. If Turtles are so good why is it their coaches are constantly riding refs, players and whoever else they can find to argue with to gain and advantage for their team?
or scream "F" bombs everytime someone scores against them!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is JD? is he with 91 or Turtles?
If you need to ask you don't need to know
wow - what an A$$, some of us read these forums and are not "in the no" so it was a legit questions
Johnny Depp, Joe DiMaggio, James Dean, John Denver, Jimmy Durante, Johnny Damon, Jonathan Davis, Jimmy Dean, Judi Dench, JD Salinger, John Deere, John Dorian, Jack Dawson
Hey tool time, put down the Jack Daniels.... lol
Jack Daniels is funny the rest not so much
New to this...Are they called the turtles because the coaches are so short????
How many more 11 year olds do you have on the Orange Crush? When I grew up that was a fifth grader, so let's not be so proud that your two best players are really playing down a year and should be playing against fifth graders.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yeah.. but Victor is a "Town Team"..
Yes Victor is a "Town Team " just like Smithtown and Sachem and West Islip and I could go on and on but you should get the picture, a very good town team. Same group that defeated the now 7th grade 91 group last year at Lehigh, and gave a very strong 8th grade 91 group a solid effort on Saturday in the Finals. I was there and watched the game, it seems the only person who it really bothered was JD, who lost his little mind berating his players and storming the field to convey his displeasure with the referees. Napoleon met his Waterloo on June 18,1815 in Belgium, JD met his June 16,2012 in Lehigh
The Rumour is JD stormed the field not to "convey his displeasure with the refs" but to berate a player from the opposing team who had the audacity to hit one of his Turtle players
yup.. turtle kid got smashed and the end of the game and the coach vented cuse his team got killed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yeah.. but Victor is a "Town Team"..
Yes Victor is a "Town Team " just like Smithtown and Sachem and West Islip and I could go on and on but you should get the picture, a very good town team. Same group that defeated the now 7th grade 91 group last year at Lehigh, and gave a very strong 8th grade 91 group a solid effort on Saturday in the Finals. I was there and watched the game, it seems the only person who it really bothered was JD, who lost his little mind berating his players and storming the field to convey his displeasure with the referees. Napoleon met his Waterloo on June 18,1815 in Belgium, JD met his June 16,2012 in Lehigh
The Rumour is JD stormed the field not to "convey his displeasure with the refs" but to berate a player from the opposing team who had the audacity to hit one of his Turtle players
Classy. If even half of this is true, why would you want your kid on the turtles. I don't care how good they are, do you really want your kid being involved and thinking this is acceptable?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yup.. turtle kid got smashed and the end of the game and the coach vented cuse his team got killed.
What a bunch of clowns on this thread. Everyone knows everything about a team and their coaches who do nothing but keep to themselves and throw nothing in anyone's face. There are other solutions to solve your ED problems rather than trying to get a "rise" out of 12/13 year old lacrosse. Play your own game, build your own team and if you ever have the nerve, contact the Turtles to play a game. Then again it's you parents doing all the whining. I'm sure your kids are quite happy doing their own thing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many more 11 year olds do you have on the Orange Crush? When I grew up that was a fifth grader, so let's not be so proud that your two best players are really playing down a year and should be playing against fifth graders.
this has to stop - if a kid is in 4th grade he is a 4th grader, if it is a grade based tourney he is not "playing down" if he is in 5th grade and plays in a 4th grade division than he is "playing down" if it is a U11 and he was 10 on 8/31/2011 he is a U11 if he was 11 on 8/31/2011 and he plays in a U11 then he is playing down. get over it.....
Napoleon complex. At least he was picking on someone his own size.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
this has to stop - if a kid is in 4th grade he is a 4th grader, if it is a grade based tourney he is not "playing down" if he is in 5th grade and plays in a 4th grade division than he is "playing down" if it is a U11 and he was 10 on 8/31/2011 he is a U11 if he was 11 on 8/31/2011 and he plays in a U11 then he is playing down. get over it.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yup.. turtle kid got smashed and the end of the game and the coach vented cuse his team got killed.
What a bunch of clowns on this thread. Everyone knows everything about a team and their coaches who do nothing but keep to themselves and throw nothing in anyone's face. There are other solutions to solve your ED problems rather than trying to get a "rise" out of 12/13 year old lacrosse. Play your own game, build your own team and if you ever have the nerve, contact the Turtles to play a game. Then again it's you parents doing all the whining. I'm sure your kids are quite happy doing their own thing.
" Build your own team " so thats how its done not by contacting players from other teams for a "Tryout". Please the Turtles have been built by scouring the other teams for players out there and selling them on the "Turtle Way ". Does the sell include being berated and cursed at by a coach who appears to have been the last kid icked in the school yard
Does anyone truley know these boys birthdates. but for this week who cares, look what division they are playing this week. 5th grade.
I heard Bethesda scrimmaged one of the teams they were facing and got beaten up badly. Bethesda won but was spent afterwards.
could be interesting
I heard Bethesda scrimmaged one of the teams they were facing and got beaten up badly. Bethesda won but was spent afterwards.
could be interesting
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
this has to stop - if a kid is in 4th grade he is a 4th grader, if it is a grade based tourney he is not "playing down" if he is in 5th grade and plays in a 4th grade division than he is "playing down" if it is a U11 and he was 10 on 8/31/2011 he is a U11 if he was 11 on 8/31/2011 and he plays in a U11 then he is playing down. get over it.....
Sage - I almost always agree with you but here I do not, the kids need to be ready for 7th grade middle school and beyond where it is grade based and not age based. most teams are being set up by graduating year not by age and most tournaments are as well. because lacrosse does not have the numbers that soccer has you have U9, U11, U13 and U15 not U9,U10,U11,U12 ect. so you still have the two year grouping. Recon goes by age and their U13 team is made up of both 7th and 8th graders and when they go to a grade based tournament they play in the 8th grade bracket. Recon could have a 7th grade kid born in '99 and an 8th grade team could could have "legal" kid born in '97 so you still have that large gap. They play grade based in PAl and Middle School and these kids should be able to stay together in the summer. - unless and until USLacrosse can standardize all leagues, teams and tournaments. cheating is cheating and that is another issue but I do not believe that a kid in 7th grade playing on a 7th grade team is cheating or "playing Down. just my opinion
If you're already 11 you should clearly be in 5th grade, if you choose to hold your kid back that's your decision and they benefit from that in sports. Just recognize that you're playing against younger kids, we could all hold our kids back a year and then they would be dominant too. Kids should play against kids there own age, that's what is fair, having an 11 year old play against 9 year olds and having that kid never come off the field is not cool or impressive.
To be clear, they are playing in the 5th grade B division....yawn
of course, why get beat by 91 2019 orange again!
Lets go White 2019
Lets go White 2019
how many kids on Long Island are being held back that we are having all this conversation? I know a few kids that were not held back but just started kindergarten late and are now older and those decisions are usually social and development issues and not about athletics, I know of one kid who repeated 8th grade this year and do I think that was a lacrosse decision because he was talented but small so even playing 8th grade again this summer he is hardly physically dominating - i also wonder if everybody that is obsessed with this age thing will not allow their kids to move up in middle school to JV because they don't want to play against kids that are older.
it is an obsession of so many people because it's flat out unfair to the kids who are age appropriate. there is a simple solution, go by calendar birth year. once you get into middle school and high school you have to deal with playing against older kids, but because at a young age kids develop so much year-to-year it's really stupid to have kids of varying ages play against each other. lacrosse is the only sport that does it this way, all other organized youth sports do it by age.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yup.. turtle kid got smashed and the end of the game and the coach vented cuse his team got killed.
What a bunch of clowns on this thread. Everyone knows everything about a team and their coaches who do nothing but keep to themselves and throw nothing in anyone's face. There are other solutions to solve your ED problems rather than trying to get a "rise" out of 12/13 year old lacrosse. Play your own game, build your own team and if you ever have the nerve, contact the Turtles to play a game. Then again it's you parents doing all the whining. I'm sure your kids are quite happy doing their own thing.
" Build your own team " so thats how its done not by contacting players from other teams for a "Tryout". Please the Turtles have been built by scouring the other teams for players out there and selling them on the "Turtle Way ". Does the sell include being berated and cursed at by a coach who appears to have been the last kid icked in the school yard
In all seriousness you have to GET A GRIP. Do me a favor try to explain to any of your level headed peers how and why you rant and rave about YOUTH lacrosse. No one cares, it means nothing, they are kids, just enjoy your childs experience and lose the hate it becomes much more enjoyable. And the next time your about to post just say out loud 5x I am wasting time arguing about YOUTH lacrosee. Hopefully after the fifth time you will realize how dumb it sounds.
Good luck to the teams playing this weekend.
BTG
BTG
I care about everything so if you choose not to, go plant a tree or walk a museum, and stay out of our way or you'll get run over. I bet you vote for Obama.
You all cry about kids not playing in their own age groups until you asked to get moved up to Varsity at 9 th grade . Then it's OK. Bunch of hypocrites. It's ok when convenient for you. Let the kids play their grade they're in. I doubt some hold their kids back at 5 assuming they will be lacrosse stars.
From the Turltes Website. Maybe the coaching staff should print a copy of this and bring it with them. LOL.
The Coaches and Parents of the Turtles are committed to offering the very best instruction, training, and competitive opportunities to the boys on the team. We adhere to and teach the following principles of US Lacrosse and believe this is the best way to Honor the Game.
Respect your coaches, Teammates, opponents, officials and the fans.
Compete with heart, honor, and hustle.
Honor the traditions of the game and respect the ancestors of the sport.
Have fun, be passionate, and adhere to the spirit of the game both on and off the field.
The Coaches and Parents of the Turtles are committed to offering the very best instruction, training, and competitive opportunities to the boys on the team. We adhere to and teach the following principles of US Lacrosse and believe this is the best way to Honor the Game.
Respect your coaches, Teammates, opponents, officials and the fans.
Compete with heart, honor, and hustle.
Honor the traditions of the game and respect the ancestors of the sport.
Have fun, be passionate, and adhere to the spirit of the game both on and off the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
From the Turltes Website. Maybe the coaching staff should print a copy of this and bring it with them. LOL.
The Coaches and Parents of the Turtles are committed to offering the very best instruction, training, and competitive opportunities to the boys on the team. We adhere to and teach the following principles of US Lacrosse and believe this is the best way to Honor the Game.
Respect your coaches, Teammates, opponents, officials and the fans.
Compete with heart, honor, and hustle.
Honor the traditions of the game and respect the ancestors of the sport.
Have fun, be passionate, and adhere to the spirit of the game both on and off the field.
The Coaches and Parents of the Turtles are committed to offering the very best instruction, training, and competitive opportunities to the boys on the team. We adhere to and teach the following principles of US Lacrosse and believe this is the best way to Honor the Game.
Respect your coaches, Teammates, opponents, officials and the fans.
Compete with heart, honor, and hustle.
Honor the traditions of the game and respect the ancestors of the sport.
Have fun, be passionate, and adhere to the spirit of the game both on and off the field.
You my friend have a lot of time on your hands.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I care about everything so if you choose not to, go plant a tree or walk a museum, and stay out of our way or you'll get run over. I bet you vote for Obama.
I see where you going with this and would like to recommend you use "Occupy Youth lacrosse" or "OYL" as you signature.
"stay out of our way or you'll get run over" blahhhhh
2016 orange have played up and beat multiple 2015 teams, including Express Blue and White 2015. In addition played a JV team from Texas, need to know anything else !!
JD is the owner of Lacrosse Unlimited and coaches his son on this team. He has everything at his finger tips, including equipment, coaches and money ....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JD is the owner of Lacrosse Unlimited and coaches his son on this team. He has everything at his finger tips, including equipment, coaches and money ....
Thanks for the revelation but your point is what...not ever team has the same resources and we must make everything equal? Apply the same attention to the state of our economy and gov takeover with IT'S power grab and leave youth lacrosse alone.
Just a response to earlier posts..No need to make a pont but thanks for your insight
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JD is the owner of Lacrosse Unlimited and coaches his son on this team. He has everything at his finger tips, including equipment, coaches and money ....
Thanks for the revelation but your point is what...not ever team has the same resources and we must make everything equal? Apply the same attention to the state of our economy and gov takeover with IT'S power grab and leave youth lacrosse alone.
wasn't making a statement - was answering an earlier question asking who was JD that was being mentioned in posts
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2016 orange have played up and beat multiple 2015 teams, including Express Blue and White 2015. In addition played a JV team from Texas, need to know anything else !!
They beat some 1 year older B teams by 1 or 2 goals - big deal. You practice all the time since last year and those B teams are new teams and almost never practice. And several of the kids on the 2016 repeaters should be playing on those older B teams anyway. When they can keep it to under a double digit loss to 2015 Orange we'll be impressed. Get over yourself.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JD is the owner of Lacrosse Unlimited and coaches his son on this team. He has everything at his finger tips, including equipment, coaches and money ....
Thanks for the revelation but your point is what...not ever team has the same resources and we must make everything equal? Apply the same attention to the state of our economy and gov takeover with IT'S power grab and leave youth lacrosse alone.
wasn't making a statement - was answering an earlier question asking who was JD that was being mentioned in posts
I appreciate your response however quoting the earlier question would be beneficial for conversation purposes. Your answer did include a statement, factually incorrect, but a statement. Access to equipment to a point yes but additional coaches are paid for by parent money. His money is his just like yours and mine is ours. Stay cool out there this weekend if your kid is playing.
thanks for the advice...no need to get bitter. The facts are what they are. 2016 Orange won those games. Did not know the relevance of final scores dictates quality of wins. But I am sure your opinion is worth something, if to no one else but yourself.
Have fun this week-end stay cool !!
Have fun this week-end stay cool !!
Was not attacking, facts are what they are. I am not disputing any additional costs paid by parents.
Enjoy the week-end
Enjoy the week-end
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How dare any Express parents criticize the behavior of any other coaches or parents until they examine the behavior of the 2017 team at the fl$ tournament last Sunday!! Not only were the parents inebriated from too many alcoholic beverages but they were actively taunting and bereating opposing players directly. They were also screaming to take out players "at the knees". What a terrible sportsmanship example and just decency. Do they really destroy the knees of any 12 or 13 year old boy? It was so bad the boys on Express were apologizing to the opposition on the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2016 orange have played up and beat multiple 2015 teams, including Express Blue and White 2015. In addition played a JV team from Texas, need to know anything else !!
Interesting that 2016 Orange is not playing in JV B at the Maverik tourney this weekend. Lets see what you have to say when the Turtles beat 2016 Orange at the Maverik tournament this weekend? Nice that you are looking ahead at JV B&C but you better be watching what's coming up behind you - you might not like what you see.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How dare any Express parents criticize the behavior of any other coaches or parents until they examine the behavior of the 2017 team at the fl$ tournament last Sunday!! Not only were the parents inebriated from too many alcoholic beverages but they were actively taunting and bereating opposing players directly. They were also screaming to take out players "at the knees". What a terrible sportsmanship example and just decency. Do they really destroy the knees of any 12 or 13 year old boy? It was so bad the boys on Express were apologizing to the opposition on the field.
Now, now....some things you are saying are true, and parents should reconsider their actions on sidelines and between games.
Other things you mention are not true...
You know the difference, don't embellish
Yes, I was there
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How dare any Express parents criticize the behavior of any other coaches or parents until they examine the behavior of the 2017 team at the fl$ tournament last Sunday!! Not only were the parents inebriated from too many alcoholic beverages but they were actively taunting and bereating opposing players directly. They were also screaming to take out players "at the knees". What a terrible sportsmanship example and just decency. Do they really destroy the knees of any 12 or 13 year old boy? It was so bad the boys on Express were apologizing to the opposition on the field.
Now, now....some things you are saying are true, and parents should reconsider their actions on sidelines and between games.
Other things you mention are not true...
You know the difference, don't embellish
Yes, I was there
This sounds so crazy - parents at the 2014 level and above hardly say a peep to the refs let alone to players from opposing teams other than "nice game". This must be the year of the apocolypse for everybody to regress to the lowest level of human nature. This used to be a game just for the privileged of society. But at least they respected the game's tradition and the courage of every player to step on the field. Now that its been opened up to every tom, [lacrosse] and harry its come to this. Is this better than it used to be? Hardly. What a shame that this game is being over-run and ruined by houligans who never played.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2016 orange have played up and beat multiple 2015 teams, including Express Blue and White 2015. In addition played a JV team from Texas, need to know anything else !!
Interesting that 2016 Orange is not playing in JV B at the Maverik tourney this weekend. Lets see what you have to say when the Turtles beat 2016 Orange at the Maverik tournament this weekend? Nice that you are looking ahead at JV B&C but you better be watching what's coming up behind you - you might not like what you see.
Delicious
Not embellishing at all. In fact my comments are quite reserved compared to the reality of the situation. Which part of my post do you think is embellishment exactly?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2016 orange have played up and beat multiple 2015 teams, including Express Blue and White 2015. In addition played a JV team from Texas, need to know anything else !!
Interesting that 2016 Orange is not playing in JV B at the Maverik tourney this weekend. Lets see what you have to say when the Turtles beat 2016 Orange at the Maverik tournament this weekend? Nice that you are looking ahead at JV B&C but you better be watching what's coming up behind you - you might not like what you see.
Delicious
Turtles would win that in a rout - lets hope we see that matchup.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2016 orange have played up and beat multiple 2015 teams, including Express Blue and White 2015. In addition played a JV team from Texas, need to know anything else !!
Interesting that 2016 Orange is not playing in JV B at the Maverik tourney this weekend. Lets see what you have to say when the Turtles beat 2016 Orange at the Maverik tournament this weekend? Nice that you are looking ahead at JV B&C but you better be watching what's coming up behind you - you might not like what you see.
Delicious
Turtles would win that in a rout - lets hope we see that matchup.
Starting attack of turltls is better than 2016 starters but its the rest of the field I'm not so sure about.
Yes, we will see just like the last two times these two teams played. The best will be watching the antics of the three Turtle coaches when the Orange start to run away with it. Tough to teach your kids to be good losers when you can't control yourself in defeat. Good luck to all the boys.
be careful what you wish for. The Turtles have lost 2 times to this Orange team
Express orange is too well coach they have three games to play before the worry about playoffs. Turtles looked past opponent last week how did that work for them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2016 orange have played up and beat multiple 2015 teams, including Express Blue and White 2015. In addition played a JV team from Texas, need to know anything else !!
Interesting that 2016 Orange is not playing in JV B at the Maverik tourney this weekend. Lets see what you have to say when the Turtles beat 2016 Orange at the Maverik tournament this weekend? Nice that you are looking ahead at JV B&C but you better be watching what's coming up behind you - you might not like what you see.
Delicious
Turtles would win that in a rout - lets hope we see that matchup.
you must have something better to do, like coach your club team, rather trying to stir the pot here.
Lets see how JD will embarrass himself this weekend in front of his express peers. Should be interesting when they start knocking around his precious turtles.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lets see how JD will embarrass himself this weekend in front of his express peers. Should be interesting when they start knocking around his precious turtles.
So why isn't 2016 Orange playing up at Maverik? Even though they've beaten some weak B and C JV teams was it not nearly as comfortable as they thought it might be? A little too rough? Placement says everything.
Enough already! Turtles are 2017 and this thread is 2016. Stick to it! Until the Turtles start winning the 2016 summer brackets then you can mention it. Until then they are just like every other 2017 who try and play up and play well but don't get over the top. So go back to your 2017 thread!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough already! Turtles are 2017 and this thread is 2016. Stick to it! Until the Turtles start winning the 2016 summer brackets then you can mention it. Until then they are just like every other 2017 who try and play up and play well but don't get over the top. So go back to your 2017 thread!
Isn't this an Express Thread? just seems like a 2016 thread
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lets see how JD will embarrass himself this weekend in front of his express peers. Should be interesting when they start knocking around his precious turtles.
Better yet, let's find out who you are and put a microscope on you. Thanks for insulting my kid who happens to be on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough already! Turtles are 2017 and this thread is 2016. Stick to it! Until the Turtles start winning the 2016 summer brackets then you can mention it. Until then they are just like every other 2017 who try and play up and play well but don't get over the top. So go back to your 2017 thread!
Um. I believe this is an Express thread, not 2016.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough already! Turtles are 2017 and this thread is 2016. Stick to it! Until the Turtles start winning the 2016 summer brackets then you can mention it. Until then they are just like every other 2017 who try and play up and play well but don't get over the top. So go back to your 2017 thread!
Sorry pal this IS an Express thread not a 2016 thread.
Oooops, you are right, I'm all over the place
Originally Posted by Anonymous
be careful what you wish for. The Turtles have lost 2 times to this Orange team
Pretty sure you are not talking to a Turtle parent about this. I think both sets of parents know there is no animosity between either teams. I know there is none from the Turtle side.
JD will complain to the refs over and over cause bigger stronger kids will be running them over. I believe 9th Grade in high school rules?? They are a VERY skilled team, but not sure they can take on the Size factor.
nobody is knocking that team around. btw how about asking the kids who play on the barracudas and they will tell you that they have alot of friends on the turtles and likewise with the turtle kids. these kids have been playing together since like second or third grade so for an adult to suggest that crap is stupid. and the parents on both sides respect each other too much so everyone should know that its an outsider writing this garbage. probably 91 or a disgruntled parent upset that his kid isnt on one of these elite teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
nobody is knocking that team around. btw how about asking the kids who play on the barracudas and they will tell you that they have alot of friends on the turtles and likewise with the turtle kids. these kids have been playing together since like second or third grade so for an adult to suggest that crap is stupid. and the parents on both sides respect each other too much so everyone should know that its an outsider writing this garbage. probably 91 or a disgruntled parent upset that his kid isnt on one of these elite teams.
Why would barracuda parents "respect" (which is a very overused term by barracudas players that talk as much trash as anybody) turtle parents who berate opposing players from the sidelines? By "respecting" that type of behavior it says a lot about the character of the Cubas. Self important and pretentious.
Hello- I am a lacrosse parent, and have many friends on all of the teams mentioned. You may wish to consider that ALL of the prior posts are amazingly childish and dysfunctional. Keep it rockin', however. It's a shame that your kids will probably grow up in the same direction as those involved here. as far as being "ELITE" goes, man, paying for a great uniform can't get you that title, ever.
Teach yor children well.....................
Teach yor children well.....................
Why bring 91 into your amusing foray? You folks do just fine destroying your relations "in-house"! Top Flight, all the way!
A quick review of brackets at the Maverick Shootout shows many teams playing at least 1 year up at this tournament. I think this is an indication that the team talent pool is low. What sense does it make to enter a tournament that is considered to have lower quality teams and then play in an older age group. It seems that the only reason would be to feed the ego's of these coaches,teams and organizations.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A quick review of brackets at the Maverick Shootout shows many teams playing at least 1 year up at this tournament. I think this is an indication that the team talent pool is low. What sense does it make to enter a tournament that is considered to have lower quality teams and then play in an older age group. It seems that the only reason would be to feed the ego's of these coaches,teams and organizations.
Not sure I follow this logic. If the talent pool is poor why not play up and try to win an older bracket much like orange 2016 did at forsberg against some really terrible JV B and C teams and then boast about it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
nobody is knocking that team around. btw how about asking the kids who play on the barracudas and they will tell you that they have alot of friends on the turtles and likewise with the turtle kids. these kids have been playing together since like second or third grade so for an adult to suggest that crap is stupid. and the parents on both sides respect each other too much so everyone should know that its an outsider writing this garbage. probably 91 or a disgruntled parent upset that his kid isnt on one of these elite teams.
Nice post, you forgot to sign "OYL"
Why would barracuda parents "respect" (which is a very overused term by barracudas players that talk as much trash as anybody) turtle parents who berate opposing players from the sidelines? By "respecting" that type of behavior it says a lot about the character of the Cubas. Self important and pretentious.
Ok I will spell it out. Stop avoiding the tournaments with the better teams !!!!... Just to "win" a tournament and boast about how you beat as you said older " less talented teams". Your logic is hard to follow !!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok I will spell it out. Stop avoiding the tournaments with the better teams !!!!... Just to "win" a tournament and boast about how you beat as you said older " less talented teams". Your logic is hard to follow !!!!
I don't think we'll see 2016 orange play up anymore for the rest of the summer because even though they won by the skin of their teeth at forsberg they realized that beating bad teams only a year older (same age for many orange) was a lot harder than they thought it would be and exposed some size and toughness matchup issues. Too tough of a road for the whole summer to get anymore pictures on the website and an injury risk too. If I'm wrong why aren't they playing up in a weak pool of talent at Maverik tourney?
YOUR ALL NUTS.................this is worse than girls lacrosse............your all a bunch of cackling yentas............
You people are truly pathetic. These are children that you continue to bash every day. You do nothing but criticize every aspect of these children and their teams. The tournaments they play, the divisions they play in, their ages, what is posted on the teams website. Why do you care so much? Why are you so obsessed with these boys? These boys are no different than your own. They just play on a different team. Who knows they may be teammates someday. Its that simple. Stop making something out of nothing. Try being thankful you have been blessed with children who are healthy enough to even play lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
nobody is knocking that team around. btw how about asking the kids who play on the barracudas and they will tell you that they have alot of friends on the turtles and likewise with the turtle kids. these kids have been playing together since like second or third grade so for an adult to suggest that crap is stupid. and the parents on both sides respect each other too much so everyone should know that its an outsider writing this garbage. probably 91 or a disgruntled parent upset that his kid isnt on one of these elite teams.
Why would barracuda parents "respect" (which is a very overused term by barracudas players that talk as much trash as anybody) turtle parents who berate opposing players from the sidelines? By "respecting" that type of behavior it says a lot about the character of the Cubas. Self important and pretentious.
Lay off the bath salts! Never heard Turtle parent berate opposing teams kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. How dare any Express parents criticize the behavior of any other coaches or parents until they examine the behavior of the 2017 team at the fl$ tournament last Sunday!! Not only were the parents inebriated from too many alcoholic beverages but they were actively taunting and bereating opposing players directly. They were also screaming to take out players "at the knees". What a terrible sportsmanship example and just decency. Do they really destroy the knees of any 12 or 13 year old boy? It was so bad the boys on Express were apologizing to the opposition on the field.
Now, now....some things you are saying are true, and parents should reconsider their actions on sidelines and between games.
Other things you mention are not true...
You know the difference, don't embellish
Yes, I was there
This sounds so crazy - parents at the 2014 level and above hardly say a peep to the refs let alone to players from opposing teams other than "nice game". This must be the year of the apocolypse for everybody to regress to the lowest level of human nature. This used to be a game just for the privileged of society. But at least they respected the game's tradition and the courage of every player to step on the field. Now that its been opened up to every tom, [lacrosse] and harry its come to this. Is this better than it used to be? Hardly. What a shame that this game is being over-run and ruined by houligans who never played.
This says it all. It seems to be much calmer the older the boys get - I think both the boys and the parents mature. Until then, I guess the environment is toxic as everybody wants to see their kid climb over another on their way Memorial Day NCAA Championship Weekend.
Interesting....... So, maybe these folks have "mellowed". Possibly they've lived a bit longer, or had to listen the "blabber-mouth" parents, and are just happy to be fieldside for a day, or weekend. Or, could it be that they've seen those "mega-success" kids from yesteryear fall by the wayside? Maybe they are just raised by more "sound" parenting themselves.
I am sorry to preach (not really), but those crazies may not see it until they've been witness to bigger things in life. To spend all of these occasions yelling at officials, bickering with opponents,or claiming to know better than the coaching staff. If it comes to the point that you are considering moving the family, or are asked to leave the sideline by an official, then a "reality check" may be in order. it will probably hurt too badly when the natural athletes surface, and readily do what you've wasted tens of thousands upon training for (and often a marriage, or any peace with the siblings of the Christ child).
Give peace a chance. Watch them with their helmets off, as well.
I am sorry to preach (not really), but those crazies may not see it until they've been witness to bigger things in life. To spend all of these occasions yelling at officials, bickering with opponents,or claiming to know better than the coaching staff. If it comes to the point that you are considering moving the family, or are asked to leave the sideline by an official, then a "reality check" may be in order. it will probably hurt too badly when the natural athletes surface, and readily do what you've wasted tens of thousands upon training for (and often a marriage, or any peace with the siblings of the Christ child).
Give peace a chance. Watch them with their helmets off, as well.
Solid- sensible. Watch them as intently with their gear off.
So now that Maverik Shootout is over and the wonderful Turtles had the opportunity to play Express 2016 Orange, why didn't they?
It is more than apparent that sharing a championship is worth more to JD than earning one. So now hopefully, all those who feel the need to challenge the 2016 Orange will either step up to the plate and do so or just keep your mouths shut. The players on 2016 were not happy they shared the title. They were on the sidelins for the Turtle/Outlaw game and were looking forward to playing either. Ultimately, these players were deprived another game, but the Turtles saved face. Great job JD you should be proud !!
It is more than apparent that sharing a championship is worth more to JD than earning one. So now hopefully, all those who feel the need to challenge the 2016 Orange will either step up to the plate and do so or just keep your mouths shut. The players on 2016 were not happy they shared the title. They were on the sidelins for the Turtle/Outlaw game and were looking forward to playing either. Ultimately, these players were deprived another game, but the Turtles saved face. Great job JD you should be proud !!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So now that Maverik Shootout is over and the wonderful Turtles had the opportunity to play Express 2016 Orange, why didn't they?
It is more than apparent that sharing a championship is worth more to JD than earning one. So now hopefully, all those who feel the need to challenge the 2016 Orange will either step up to the plate and do so or just keep your mouths shut. The players on 2016 were not happy they shared the title. They were on the sidelins for the Turtle/Outlaw game and were looking forward to playing either. Ultimately, these players were deprived another game, but the Turtles saved face. Great job JD you should be proud !!
It is more than apparent that sharing a championship is worth more to JD than earning one. So now hopefully, all those who feel the need to challenge the 2016 Orange will either step up to the plate and do so or just keep your mouths shut. The players on 2016 were not happy they shared the title. They were on the sidelins for the Turtle/Outlaw game and were looking forward to playing either. Ultimately, these players were deprived another game, but the Turtles saved face. Great job JD you should be proud !!
It wasn't the turtles that backed out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So now that Maverik Shootout is over and the wonderful Turtles had the opportunity to play Express 2016 Orange, why didn't they?
It is more than apparent that sharing a championship is worth more to JD than earning one. So now hopefully, all those who feel the need to challenge the 2016 Orange will either step up to the plate and do so or just keep your mouths shut. The players on 2016 were not happy they shared the title. They were on the sidelins for the Turtle/Outlaw game and were looking forward to playing either. Ultimately, these players were deprived another game, but the Turtles saved face. Great job JD you should be proud !!
It is more than apparent that sharing a championship is worth more to JD than earning one. So now hopefully, all those who feel the need to challenge the 2016 Orange will either step up to the plate and do so or just keep your mouths shut. The players on 2016 were not happy they shared the title. They were on the sidelins for the Turtle/Outlaw game and were looking forward to playing either. Ultimately, these players were deprived another game, but the Turtles saved face. Great job JD you should be proud !!
If you are in fact a Cuba parent, you need to check with your coach aka Director of the Express to get the real answer. The fact you ran to this board to state this makes you a total loser! Sad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So now that Maverik Shootout is over and the wonderful Turtles had the opportunity to play Express 2016 Orange, why didn't they?
It is more than apparent that sharing a championship is worth more to JD than earning one. So now hopefully, all those who feel the need to challenge the 2016 Orange will either step up to the plate and do so or just keep your mouths shut. The players on 2016 were not happy they shared the title. They were on the sidelins for the Turtle/Outlaw game and were looking forward to playing either. Ultimately, these players were deprived another game, but the Turtles saved face. Great job JD you should be proud !!
It is more than apparent that sharing a championship is worth more to JD than earning one. So now hopefully, all those who feel the need to challenge the 2016 Orange will either step up to the plate and do so or just keep your mouths shut. The players on 2016 were not happy they shared the title. They were on the sidelins for the Turtle/Outlaw game and were looking forward to playing either. Ultimately, these players were deprived another game, but the Turtles saved face. Great job JD you should be proud !!
It wasn't the turtles that backed out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So now that Maverik Shootout is over and the wonderful Turtles had the opportunity to play Express 2016 Orange, why didn't they?
It is more than apparent that sharing a championship is worth more to JD than earning one. So now hopefully, all those who feel the need to challenge the 2016 Orange will either step up to the plate and do so or just keep your mouths shut. The players on 2016 were not happy they shared the title. They were on the sidelins for the Turtle/Outlaw game and were looking forward to playing either. Ultimately, these players were deprived another game, but the Turtles saved face. Great job JD you should be proud !!
It is more than apparent that sharing a championship is worth more to JD than earning one. So now hopefully, all those who feel the need to challenge the 2016 Orange will either step up to the plate and do so or just keep your mouths shut. The players on 2016 were not happy they shared the title. They were on the sidelins for the Turtle/Outlaw game and were looking forward to playing either. Ultimately, these players were deprived another game, but the Turtles saved face. Great job JD you should be proud !!
If you are in fact a Cuba parent, you need to check with your coach aka Director of the Express to get the real answer. The fact you ran to this board to state this makes you a total loser! Sad.
Both egos were afraid to lose. What a joke and very sad for the kids to work that hard to make it to that point and not be able to see it through. In the best interest of who? The paying customer? Certainly not the kids. Hopefully they get to play eachother again.
No more a loser than JD and the entire Turtle group running scraed. Put your heads back in your shells. This orange team was ready to go. As for the loser comment thanks. Enjoy your ride ducking the best. What are you and JD going to do in high school ball...tell your opponent lets call it a tie
2016 orange has beat the turtles twice bad . Go back to your own age bracket if you dont want to play all the games. This was a disgrace and the turtles should be ashamed. If you wanted a game you should have spoke up. Orange players and parents spoke up and they were upset we didn't bring our kids to help your image we do not like you
Seems like the Tri-state tournament in New Jersey has lost a lot of its luster. Tourney's such as 3D fl$ and the U-15 in Florida have stolen alot of Tri-state's thunder and deminished its importance. Yes, I know they don't overlap dates but many teams that can't travel to the east coast more than once are bypassing tri-state and trying some new tournaments. Why does Express hang onto Tri-state like its still such a big deal? Tri-state seems to be a legacy from a bygone era. Time to move on and try something different?
The sad part is the Express Orange 2016 parents were not consulted. The Orange was ready to play and willing to go out on the field and "earn" the championship. If the Turtles didn't want to play they should have forfeited. Outlaws had the Turtles beat until the the Turtles started flopping to gain the man advantage. If you can't play with the big boys stay in your own age bracket and take up soccer where diving and fainting are part of the game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The sad part is the Express Orange 2016 parents were not consulted. The Orange was ready to play and willing to go out on the field and "earn" the championship. If the Turtles didn't want to play they should have forfeited. Outlaws had the Turtles beat until the the Turtles started flopping to gain the man advantage. If you can't play with the big boys stay in your own age bracket and take up soccer where diving and fainting are part of the game.
The tournament official should disqualify both teams and give the championship to the Outlaws and the other Semifinal team. At least both those teams were ready to play if they made it through. Express should be ashamed of themselves if they put up a "championship" picture on the website of this.
MC made one of the classiest moves for his club. The same move that many express teams have made over the years. If the cudas parents are so upset, take the win, its all yours. Make sure to complain to MC real good about some BS tournament game. Then when your kid doesn't make Jake Reed or UA team just remember the day you made such a big deal over a game.. stay focused!
Well said, the boys wanted to play, but they are just boys. over the next few years many of these talented kids will either be teammates or gog head to head against each other. There will be plenty of opportunities for the parents to beat their chests about winning tournaments
Turtle outlaws was a very exiting game.
Bottom line both very good
I think 6-5
all goals except one man up
turtles man up 11 times
outlaws 1 time
better orange does not play them they would win
Bottom line both very good
I think 6-5
all goals except one man up
turtles man up 11 times
outlaws 1 time
better orange does not play them they would win
2 years ago my sons team played the orange team in the finals of LI Laxfest. What is the big deal about playing this game?
I think the big deal is the Orange boys wanted to play for the championship out right. Alot of trash talking has been taking place on this site as well as thru parents ( as ridiculous as it sounds ). The boys were disapponted with the reasoning of not having 2 Express teams play for a championship when this Orange team played 2 Express teams in the semis and championship at the Forsberg Tourn. My son who is on the Orange 2016 team voiced this to me. I cant explain the logic behind it to him. Just explained there are bigger things to worry about and enjoy playing whenever and against whoever he does
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtle outlaws was a very exiting game.
Bottom line both very good
I think 6-5
all goals except one man up
turtles man up 11 times
outlaws 1 time
better orange does not play them they would win
Bottom line both very good
I think 6-5
all goals except one man up
turtles man up 11 times
outlaws 1 time
better orange does not play them they would win
Great stats. Goes to show the difference in the quality of the player and coaching between teams. Outlaws man up once shows how clean play and finesse wins the day. Players and coaches mouthing off to officials lose games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC made one of the classiest moves for his club. The same move that many express teams have made over the years. If the cudas parents are so upset, take the win, its all yours. Make sure to complain to MC real good about some BS tournament game. Then when your kid doesn't make Jake Reed or UA team just remember the day you made such a big deal over a game.. stay focused!
That's a crock of you know what - "class" my !##. What is JD creating over there - a bunch of primadonas with such fragile egos (shells) that at the slightest setback will implode? They'll produce a bunch of kids with egos that will be a nightmare to handle for any high school or college coach when JD hands them off. When you sign up to play up, you accept the probability are you are not going to win the championshiup - you do it for other reasons. Losing is ok, especially when playing up with good lessons to be learned. Are these kids so fragile that they can't handle a loss? Rather was the other coach concerned about the probable meltdown, temper tantrum and histrionics of JD in a losing battle that would embarass everybody involved? They need to get over themselves.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the big deal is the Orange boys wanted to play for the championship out right. Alot of trash talking has been taking place on this site as well as thru parents ( as ridiculous as it sounds ). The boys were disapponted with the reasoning of not having 2 Express teams play for a championship when this Orange team played 2 Express teams in the semis and championship at the Forsberg Tourn. My son who is on the Orange 2016 team voiced this to me. I cant explain the logic behind it to him. Just explained there are bigger things to worry about and enjoy playing whenever and against whoever he does
Exactly, why was it ok for the Orange to embarass another Express JV C team in the finals at Forsberg but not ok to let the kids play here? I think MC thought it would have been a huge, embarassing blowout handed to the Turtles that JD and the turtles would not be able to handle. There is alot of tension and animosity between the these two sides going back several years - about control, independence, branding, money etc.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC made one of the classiest moves for his club. The same move that many express teams have made over the years. If the cudas parents are so upset, take the win, its all yours. Make sure to complain to MC real good about some BS tournament game. Then when your kid doesn't make Jake Reed or UA team just remember the day you made such a big deal over a game.. stay focused!
That's a crock of you know what - "class" my !##. What is JD creating over there - a bunch of primadonas with such fragile egos (shells) that at the slightest setback will implode? They'll produce a bunch of kids with egos that will be a nightmare to handle for any high school or college coach when JD hands them off. When you sign up to play up, you accept the probability are you are not going to win the championshiup - you do it for other reasons. Losing is ok, especially when playing up with good lessons to be learned. Are these kids so fragile that they can't handle a loss? Rather was the other coach concerned about the probable meltdown, temper tantrum and histrionics of JD in a losing battle that would embarass everybody involved? They need to get over themselves.
You need to get a life. I say this with complete concern knocking 12/13 year old kids.
An Orange parent told me that MC thought taking the turtles to the woodshed would be just a a bad way to end the tournament - no win for the Orange - they were supposed to win big and if they did, big deal - you beat a younger team. However, if they didn't win big or even loss, that would also not be good. No win situation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC made one of the classiest moves for his club. The same move that many express teams have made over the years. If the cudas parents are so upset, take the win, its all yours. Make sure to complain to MC real good about some BS tournament game. Then when your kid doesn't make Jake Reed or UA team just remember the day you made such a big deal over a game.. stay focused!
That's a crock of you know what - "class" my !##. What is JD creating over there - a bunch of primadonas with such fragile egos (shells) that at the slightest setback will implode? They'll produce a bunch of kids with egos that will be a nightmare to handle for any high school or college coach when JD hands them off. When you sign up to play up, you accept the probability are you are not going to win the championshiup - you do it for other reasons. Losing is ok, especially when playing up with good lessons to be learned. Are these kids so fragile that they can't handle a loss? Rather was the other coach concerned about the probable meltdown, temper tantrum and histrionics of JD in a losing battle that would embarass everybody involved? They need to get over themselves.
Right off the Turtles own website:
2016 Orange and 2017 Turtles Share the Championship of Maverik Big Time 9th grade A Division
The 2016 Express Orange and 2017 Express Turtles share the title of champions of the Big Time Shootout Sponsored by Maverik in Mitchell field this Sunday.
Both Express teams went undefeated in the 9th grade A division.
Express Turtles were the only 8th grade team to compete here.
Note: right above this is the following quote on the website: Looking for a game with the Turtles? Use the contact link to email us anytime! We don't duck anyone.
Holy cow can you say EGO!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC made one of the classiest moves for his club. The same move that many express teams have made over the years. If the cudas parents are so upset, take the win, its all yours. Make sure to complain to MC real good about some BS tournament game. Then when your kid doesn't make Jake Reed or UA team just remember the day you made such a big deal over a game.. stay focused!
That's a crock of you know what - "class" my !##. What is JD creating over there - a bunch of primadonas with such fragile egos (shells) that at the slightest setback will implode? They'll produce a bunch of kids with egos that will be a nightmare to handle for any high school or college coach when JD hands them off. When you sign up to play up, you accept the probability are you are not going to win the championshiup - you do it for other reasons. Losing is ok, especially when playing up with good lessons to be learned. Are these kids so fragile that they can't handle a loss? Rather was the other coach concerned about the probable meltdown, temper tantrum and histrionics of JD in a losing battle that would embarass everybody involved? They need to get over themselves.
Right off the Turtles own website:
2016 Orange and 2017 Turtles Share the Championship of Maverik Big Time 9th grade A Division
The 2016 Express Orange and 2017 Express Turtles share the title of champions of the Big Time Shootout Sponsored by Maverik in Mitchell field this Sunday.
Both Express teams went undefeated in the 9th grade A division.
Express Turtles were the only 8th grade team to compete here.
Note: right above this is the following quote on the website: Looking for a game with the Turtles? Use the contact link to email us anytime! We don't duck anyone.
Holy cow can you say EGO!!!
We don't duck anyone unless they call themselve Express Orange. I have no doubt that the turtles would have no problem beating up on the 2018 Express Orange if a championship was on the line. What a joke of a program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC made one of the classiest moves for his club. The same move that many express teams have made over the years. If the cudas parents are so upset, take the win, its all yours. Make sure to complain to MC real good about some BS tournament game. Then when your kid doesn't make Jake Reed or UA team just remember the day you made such a big deal over a game.. stay focused!
That's a crock of you know what - "class" my !##. What is JD creating over there - a bunch of primadonas with such fragile egos (shells) that at the slightest setback will implode? They'll produce a bunch of kids with egos that will be a nightmare to handle for any high school or college coach when JD hands them off. When you sign up to play up, you accept the probability are you are not going to win the championshiup - you do it for other reasons. Losing is ok, especially when playing up with good lessons to be learned. Are these kids so fragile that they can't handle a loss? Rather was the other coach concerned about the probable meltdown, temper tantrum and histrionics of JD in a losing battle that would embarass everybody involved? They need to get over themselves.
You need to get a life. I say this with complete concern knocking 12/13 year old kids.
Not knocking the kids, knocking the not well adjsusted egos that are in charge of molding these kids into well adjusted athletes. If you have no horse in this race, get back to work.
It's simply not a race if you pack it in to call it a TIE. I remember doing that at 6 yrs old! Not a bold move.
Go Crabs!!! Can't wait to see this act in Baltimore.
Yes, battle of the ages. But what ages are you? Ha ha. Looking forward to taking some hardware home and the winner's pic on our website.
Wait for it..wait for it..like clockwork some yahoo is about to chime in with some kum-by-ah overused stuff about how much they "respect" the Crabs. Lets just settle it on the field. This isn't the U.N. and we don't need to like eachother and still have a great rivalry. Go Crabs!!!
We think we're better than you and vice versa. Only one way to figure it out. Lets get it on!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC made one of the classiest moves for his club. The same move that many express teams have made over the years. If the cudas parents are so upset, take the win, its all yours. Make sure to complain to MC real good about some BS tournament game. Then when your kid doesn't make Jake Reed or UA team just remember the day you made such a big deal over a game.. stay focused!
That's a crock of you know what - "class" my !##. What is JD creating over there - a bunch of primadonas with such fragile egos (shells) that at the slightest setback will implode? They'll produce a bunch of kids with egos that will be a nightmare to handle for any high school or college coach when JD hands them off. When you sign up to play up, you accept the probability are you are not going to win the championshiup - you do it for other reasons. Losing is ok, especially when playing up with good lessons to be learned. Are these kids so fragile that they can't handle a loss? Rather was the other coach concerned about the probable meltdown, temper tantrum and histrionics of JD in a losing battle that would embarass everybody involved? They need to get over themselves.
Right off the Turtles own website:
2016 Orange and 2017 Turtles Share the Championship of Maverik Big Time 9th grade A Division
The 2016 Express Orange and 2017 Express Turtles share the title of champions of the Big Time Shootout Sponsored by Maverik in Mitchell field this Sunday.
Both Express teams went undefeated in the 9th grade A division.
Express Turtles were the only 8th grade team to compete here.
Note: right above this is the following quote on the website: Looking for a game with the Turtles? Use the contact link to email us anytime! We don't duck anyone.
Holy cow can you say EGO!!!
Did you contact them or are you all anonymous mouth?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC made one of the classiest moves for his club. The same move that many express teams have made over the years. If the cudas parents are so upset, take the win, its all yours. Make sure to complain to MC real good about some BS tournament game. Then when your kid doesn't make Jake Reed or UA team just remember the day you made such a big deal over a game.. stay focused!
That's a crock of you know what - "class" my !##. What is JD creating over there - a bunch of primadonas with such fragile egos (shells) that at the slightest setback will implode? They'll produce a bunch of kids with egos that will be a nightmare to handle for any high school or college coach when JD hands them off. When you sign up to play up, you accept the probability are you are not going to win the championshiup - you do it for other reasons. Losing is ok, especially when playing up with good lessons to be learned. Are these kids so fragile that they can't handle a loss? Rather was the other coach concerned about the probable meltdown, temper tantrum and histrionics of JD in a losing battle that would embarass everybody involved? They need to get over themselves.
Right off the Turtles own website:
2016 Orange and 2017 Turtles Share the Championship of Maverik Big Time 9th grade A Division
The 2016 Express Orange and 2017 Express Turtles share the title of champions of the Big Time Shootout Sponsored by Maverik in Mitchell field this Sunday.
Both Express teams went undefeated in the 9th grade A division.
Express Turtles were the only 8th grade team to compete here.
Note: right above this is the following quote on the website: Looking for a game with the Turtles? Use the contact link to email us anytime! We don't duck anyone.
Holy cow can you say EGO!!!
We don't duck anyone unless they call themselve Express Orange. I have no doubt that the turtles would have no problem beating up on the 2018 Express Orange if a championship was on the line. What a joke of a program.
Wow thread went quiet. Guess an email went out telling the clownfish parents to get back into their coral patch.
"Still worthy of being a 'Baird Man.'" What the (heck) is that? What is your motto here? Well, gentlemen, when the (stuff) hits the fan some guys run and some guys stay. Here's Charlie facing the fire; and there's George hidin' in big Daddy's pocket. As I came in here, I heard those words, "cradle of leadership." Well, when the bow breaks, the cradle will fall. And it has fallen here; it has fallen. Makers of men; creators of leaders; be careful what kind of leaders you're producin' here.
- Al Pacino, Scent of a Woman
- Al Pacino, Scent of a Woman
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"Still worthy of being a 'Baird Man.'" What the (heck) is that? What is your motto here? Well, gentlemen, when the (stuff) hits the fan some guys run and some guys stay. Here's Charlie facing the fire; and there's George hidin' in big Daddy's pocket. As I came in here, I heard those words, "cradle of leadership." Well, when the bow breaks, the cradle will fall. And it has fallen here; it has fallen. Makers of men; creators of leaders; be careful what kind of leaders you're producin' here.
- Al Pacino, Scent of a Woman
- Al Pacino, Scent of a Woman
Agreed. JD is a hypocrite. Ask JD about playing 2017 Orange for a championship in Tri-State. When asked if both teams should be co-champs instead of playing each other in the championship JD's quote " I come to tournaments to win". Then after winning he complained about penalties, roughness etc. I guess his motto now is "can we take a pic for the website" so I can pat myself on the back !!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. JD is a hypocrite. Ask JD about playing 2017 Orange for a championship in Tri-State. When asked if both teams should be co-champs instead of playing each other in the championship JD's quote " I come to tournaments to win". Then after winning he complained about penalties, roughness etc. I guess his motto now is "can we take a pic for the website" so I can pat myself on the back !!!!!!
he's a pompas jerk! Had my son play for him on a non-turtles team and we got screwed at every turn! Shortened practices, him not showing up, not at tournaments, etc... Can anyone say Napoleon Complex?
Which LI Express teams are going down to the Young Guns Tournament?
Prediction: Some of the Turtles will take a few of the 24 available roster positions (bumping some 2016 Orange kids) one year ahead of schedule for the U-15 championship next year. Watch out from below.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which LI Express teams are going down to the Young Guns Tournament?
2016 Orange/barracudas and 2017 Turtles
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Prediction: Some of the Turtles will take a few of the 24 available roster positions (bumping some 2016 Orange kids) one year ahead of schedule for the U-15 championship next year. Watch out from below.
fl$ did this last year - pulled some kids up early and wound up winning it. Turtles are an ambitious and impatient bunch so it is believable. Some may have to because if they wait their turn they might be too old. Time will tell.
Wait, why would anybody accept THAT? Winning solidly is what you play for, and practice to do. Please don't think that many folks swallowed that.
Only if JD cries and begs !!
Why isn't that happening this year with 2016 and 2015?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, we will see just like the last two times these two teams played. The best will be watching the antics of the three Turtle coaches when the Orange start to run away with it. Tough to teach your kids to be good losers when you can't control yourself in defeat. Good luck to all the boys.
"show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser"
Vince Lombardi
Gap is much bigger than between Turtles and 2016. Nobody on 2016 is better than what 2015 already has. There are some Turtles that are definately better than some current 2016s.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Gap is much bigger than between Turtles and 2016. Nobody on 2016 is better than what 2015 already has. There are some Turtles that are definately better than some current 2016s.
There are also plenty of 2017 (non Turtle players) that are better than 2016 players. Just as, there are plenty of 2018 players that are better than 2017. Point is , you could go on forever about this. One more thing, **NEWSFLASH** there are many 2017 kids for many clubs that are BETTER than several of the Turtle players. Don't sweat the fancy uniform, they are all young lacrosse players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Gap is much bigger than between Turtles and 2016. Nobody on 2016 is better than what 2015 already has. There are some Turtles that are definitely better than some current 2016s.
If this is true, why did the Turtles duck out of playing Orange 2016 for the championship. Obviously, the turtles feel the gap is significant enough to not want to play them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Prediction: Some of the Turtles will take a few of the 24 available roster positions (bumping some 2016 Orange kids) one year ahead of schedule for the U-15 championship next year. Watch out from below.
last year teams had open spots because the birthday cut off was 1/1 now that USLacrosse has changed the dates back to 8/31 you will have fewer spots open if any, if the old birth date rule was still in place my sons team would have lost 5 players but now all are OK -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the big deal is the Orange boys wanted to play for the championship out right. Alot of trash talking has been taking place on this site as well as thru parents ( as ridiculous as it sounds ). The boys were disapponted with the reasoning of not having 2 Express teams play for a championship when this Orange team played 2 Express teams in the semis and championship at the Forsberg Tourn. My son who is on the Orange 2016 team voiced this to me. I cant explain the logic behind it to him. Just explained there are bigger things to worry about and enjoy playing whenever and against whoever he does
Exactly, why was it ok for the Orange to embarass another Express JV C team in the finals at Forsberg but not ok to let the kids play here? I think MC thought it would have been a huge, embarassing blowout handed to the Turtles that JD and the turtles would not be able to handle. There is alot of tension and animosity between the these two sides going back several years - about control, independence, branding, money etc.
From Express newsletter sent out today -
2016 Express Orange AND 2017 Express Turtles
2012 Maverick Shootout Co-CHAMPIONS!
Congrats to our 2016 Express Orange & 2017 Express Turtles share the title of champions of the Maverick Big Time Shootout this Sunday. Both Express teams went undefeated in the 9th grade A division! Awesome job guys!
2020 Express Orange
2012 Maverick Shootout CHAMPIONS!
The 2020 Orange just keeps on rolling as the take the crown of another tournament! Their opponent was our very talented 2020 Express Blue! Nothing better than ALL EXPRESS FINAL! Way to get it done boys!
Woo Hoo. 2020 Express Orange won a division with 3/4th grade town teams.
They played the 2020 all express final? Why did JD and MC not allow the other all express final. What did the other coach say?
too bad they cant beat 91 crush-- its pathetic that they have to play against each orange vs blue what's the point in playing
As most know the financial connection between MC and JD goes alot deeper than they want anyone to know. Turtles use the Express brand and JD uses Express for business. They wont play each other in a tournament final made up of below average teams yet MC allows Express teams to play each other all the time. Both are hypocrites. "Playing up" just gives the team a built in excuse if they lose.
It's all about business relationship with Express and Turtles. Most teams in Express do not matter. Barracudas and Turtles are the only teams that matter. Get used to it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's all about business relationship with Express and Turtles. Most teams in Express do not matter. Barracudas and Turtles are the only teams that matter. Get used to it.
What a very disrespectful comment towards a bunch of kids/parents who play for the other Express teams. Shame on you tough guy. Our boys both play for an Express team that is Blue. We are very happy, our nephew had a similar Express situation (not being on an "A" team), he is now a starter at a Ivy league University. Best wishes.
They can do whatever they want but this treatment of some teams with the golden touch and other teams within the same family like garbage is just really bad business. Who would treat kids within their own family so unevenly? The program has gotten way too big and has gotten away from them. They should just consolidate down to one Orange team per grade and charge double. Anybody want to start up a competing program there would be tons of great players running as fast as they can away from the Express. Word of warning - if your kid is not on an Orange team, run as fast as you can to a better situation for your kid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
too bad they cant beat 91 crush-- its pathetic that they have to play against each orange vs blue what's the point in playing
Because it makes them feel better beating B teams and town teams than losing to legitimate A teams. Can't hide forever.
Enough already, Crush yeah you are a very strong team, but you have to admit the 4th grade Express orange is a strong team as well.
DD say they have a strong 4th grade team, but will not play "crush" if they have the (older boys who play DD 5th playing) wonder what they know.
Who are the other A teams in 4th?
In looking at the schedule for Big Time. Express played other 2020 teams in a rising 5th grade bracket. Sure they played towns but West Islip puts a program togtehr like a travel team you all know that. Long Beach I cant comment on - only to say Express Blue played the other travels in that bracket and came out ahead so maybe for this day the tourny for this bracket did match them up fairly.
DD say they have a strong 4th grade team, but will not play "crush" if they have the (older boys who play DD 5th playing) wonder what they know.
Who are the other A teams in 4th?
In looking at the schedule for Big Time. Express played other 2020 teams in a rising 5th grade bracket. Sure they played towns but West Islip puts a program togtehr like a travel team you all know that. Long Beach I cant comment on - only to say Express Blue played the other travels in that bracket and came out ahead so maybe for this day the tourny for this bracket did match them up fairly.
serious question at the 2017 year of graduation what are the express teams in order of best to let's say not best, I assume from what I have read turtles are best then who
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They can do whatever they want but this treatment of some teams with the golden touch and other teams within the same family like garbage is just really bad business. Who would treat kids within their own family so unevenly? The program has gotten way too big and has gotten away from them. They should just consolidate down to one Orange team per grade and charge double. Anybody want to start up a competing program there would be tons of great players running as fast as they can away from the Express. Word of warning - if your kid is not on an Orange team, run as fast as you can to a better situation for your kid.
I'm not so sure this is great advice. My kid got moved from an Orange to a Blue. Yes, it has been a challenge to his self esteem but isn't that a good life lesson too? He's making the best of it and enjoys being one of the better players on a pretty good team. Quite frankly he enjoys playing for his new coach much better than the Orange coach too. Sometimes it seems harder on the parents than the kid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
serious question at the 2017 year of graduation what are the express teams in order of best to let's say not best, I assume from what I have read turtles are best then who
Turtles are obviously at the top of the heap
You could make the argument for either McManus or Korwans team in the second slot
There are two other teams at the age group and i have no idea how to judge either of them since they have changed 10 times since tryouts.
Will Manny was on the express Blue team a few years ago. The best players will get noticed when it counts.
My son is on 2015 express orange it is very civil the boys have fun whether they win or lose I don't see the parents getting upset either at a loss, I am so glad my son didn't start club Lacrosse until High School, it sounds like a nightmare and a complete waste of time,
It's a huge commitment for parents and kids and my son is no worse off being fairly new to Lacrosse for his age (15) than the other boys as long as his grades stay high and he plays well he will be noticed, don't know what the youth orange express. Charges but the older level is $1800 just for summer iand we get only two tournaments and one 3 day shoot out, I can't imagine spending this kind of money on a grade schooler
It's a huge commitment for parents and kids and my son is no worse off being fairly new to Lacrosse for his age (15) than the other boys as long as his grades stay high and he plays well he will be noticed, don't know what the youth orange express. Charges but the older level is $1800 just for summer iand we get only two tournaments and one 3 day shoot out, I can't imagine spending this kind of money on a grade schooler
Does a couple of weeks or months really matter .what if a kid started kindergarten in Massachusettes or some other state where the cut off for kindergarten is August 31st but than moves to long island several years later surely this doesnt mean the kid belongs in the grade above.
Here in New [lacrosse] the cut off is December 1st my son who was born November 30th only because he was born five days early waited to start kindergarten until age five does this also mean he is in the wrong grade,?
As long as the kids are within 14 months or so apart I really don't see a big deal. And sometimes the younger is more skilled and bigger.
Here in New [lacrosse] the cut off is December 1st my son who was born November 30th only because he was born five days early waited to start kindergarten until age five does this also mean he is in the wrong grade,?
As long as the kids are within 14 months or so apart I really don't see a big deal. And sometimes the younger is more skilled and bigger.
Yea....OK....I'm sure thats a true statement !!!!!
There were no 3rd grade teams and Express absolutely destroyed every team that they played, "Can't Wait" for the next time they play Team 91...which is really a team comprised of 4th graders and a kids that should be in 5th grade already....
Can't wait to play 91 Orange Crush? The last time they met the score was i believe 15-1. Be careful what you wish for. 2020 express Orange is a really good team. Can't take that away from them but the 91 Orange Crush are a whole different animal.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does a couple of weeks or months really matter .what if a kid started kindergarten in Massachusettes or some other state where the cut off for kindergarten is August 31st but than moves to long island several years later surely this doesnt mean the kid belongs in the grade above.
Here in New [lacrosse] the cut off is December 1st my son who was born November 30th only because he was born five days early waited to start kindergarten until age five does this also mean he is in the wrong grade,?
As long as the kids are within 14 months or so apart I really don't see a big deal. And sometimes the younger is more skilled and bigger.
Here in New [lacrosse] the cut off is December 1st my son who was born November 30th only because he was born five days early waited to start kindergarten until age five does this also mean he is in the wrong grade,?
As long as the kids are within 14 months or so apart I really don't see a big deal. And sometimes the younger is more skilled and bigger.
My son is born in early October and in is the correct grade for his age (he was 4 for the first month or so of kindergarten). I found that many parents of boys particularly kept back their kids born in Sept., Oct., Nov and December. Did this make it difficult for my son in sports? Absolutely. He would be in the younger group if sports were grouped by year of birth, but by grouping by grade with so many "red shirts", he often found it tough to compete. Conversely, my daughter is a January birthday and thus "old" for her great. Did she benefit from that experience? Again, absolutely. I'm not judging people who hold back their late birthday kids, but don't delude yourself. Those kids have an advantage. No doubt about it.
Hi-young daughter -- goalie -- interested in the Girls Long island Express Club -- any feedback or insight as to how that orginization is run would be appreciated -- Thanks
I will make it simple for you, my kid is a 5'11, very fast 10th grader born in october, plays in a big town, put him with the 9th grader'S he is a Stud.
Blah blah blah story of the year 2016 Express
Orange beats 2015 blue and white a few weeks ago
In Forsberg I know at least one player whom is a
[lacrosse] but good athlete on that team whose father
Left him back intentionally to get another redshirt year
Whom used to play on 2015 Express Orange
And I'm so looking forward to hearing what a superstar this kid
Is at St Ants next year.
These are the kind of antics that go on with this
Devil sport, give me a break, turtles are still small
Kids who would play against HS freshman. This is only
One story of many.
Give me a break!
Orange beats 2015 blue and white a few weeks ago
In Forsberg I know at least one player whom is a
[lacrosse] but good athlete on that team whose father
Left him back intentionally to get another redshirt year
Whom used to play on 2015 Express Orange
And I'm so looking forward to hearing what a superstar this kid
Is at St Ants next year.
These are the kind of antics that go on with this
Devil sport, give me a break, turtles are still small
Kids who would play against HS freshman. This is only
One story of many.
Give me a break!
Yes, "can't wait" - 2020 Express Orange is a very different team than last year, improvements all over the place and the last time they played the Organge Crush it wasn't 15-1. Take away your two 11 year olds also and see what happens...
You people are so sad. Talking about 4th graders lacrosse games. I come on this site for information but most of it is now loser parents placing way too much importance on meaningless youth games. Geez get a life.
Looking for opinions or feedback on the Express Girls Program--anything is appreciated.
Does anyone really know if the "older" boys on crush are 11 yet? Or Do they fall into the new rule of birthdates between Sept and Dec. and were just younger on their (appropriatly moral) 5th grade level.
And the reality of brigning forth this issue while in the younger grades is to show the injustices that come about when they are in HS.
These days the difference of being a stud in Soph year over Jr year is the difference of $$ and schools, so do not come on here to say it doesnt make a difference at younger grades.
And the reality of brigning forth this issue while in the younger grades is to show the injustices that come about when they are in HS.
These days the difference of being a stud in Soph year over Jr year is the difference of $$ and schools, so do not come on here to say it doesnt make a difference at younger grades.
The fact that you are so consumed with the question of whether or not a kid is 11 yet is sad. Get a life my friend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for opinions or feedback on the Express Girls Program--anything is appreciated.
Yellow Jackets is the premier program on the island and one of the best in the country. Liberty (Black) is also a strong team and is run by the Manhasset varsity coach who is an arch rival of the Yellow Jackets found who by the way is also a Manhasset alum but now runs the YJs out of Northport.
The Express girls program is pretty weak from what I understand. fl$ probably has a better girls program than Express.
Not consumed on whether a kid is 11... consumed with the morality in reality of the parents whom we will have to deal with for years to come.
As parents this is the pivital age where we try to stear a child to or away from another child as friends. If the parent isnt moral compASS is not sound, cant say I could imagine the child would grow up to be.
So yeah I do want to know who is bending the rules to their liking, because I DONT WANT MY KID AROUND THAT FAMILY!!!
As parents this is the pivital age where we try to stear a child to or away from another child as friends. If the parent isnt moral compASS is not sound, cant say I could imagine the child would grow up to be.
So yeah I do want to know who is bending the rules to their liking, because I DONT WANT MY KID AROUND THAT FAMILY!!!
Top Gun is another good program (rivaling YJ and Lib) especially if your in Suffolk, then Beach Bums, and if younger and need to strengthen her skills ripcurls
Funny how you bring up the 11 year old thing. I in fact know one of the boys you speak of and as far as the rules for playing U11 that child is born after September 1st. You only question this boys age because of his ability. Most, if not ALL, teams have kids that could be a grade older.
How about the kids that are older and not as good? I don't see you questioning them. My son was born in the end of his year and was not held back. Do I feel he is slightly disadvantaged because if this? Yes. However it is what it is and I teach him to work hard and guess what, he's right there with the OLDER kids.
The way you cry I'm sure the families of older kids will be better off not being associated with a complainer like you. Stop being anonymous on here and speak out loud at a tournament. Strap a set on little man.
Life isn't fair.
How about the kids that are older and not as good? I don't see you questioning them. My son was born in the end of his year and was not held back. Do I feel he is slightly disadvantaged because if this? Yes. However it is what it is and I teach him to work hard and guess what, he's right there with the OLDER kids.
The way you cry I'm sure the families of older kids will be better off not being associated with a complainer like you. Stop being anonymous on here and speak out loud at a tournament. Strap a set on little man.
Life isn't fair.
WE CAN PUT THE WHOLE AGE THING TO BED BY JUST HAVING THE CALENDAR DECIDE. IF YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER IS BORN IN JANUARY GREAT IN OCTOBER NOT SO GREAT. FORGET THE GRADUATING YEAR THEN ALL OF THE WHINING WILL STOP. IF LITTLE JOHNNY WAS BORN IN OCTOBER AND WAS HELD BACK BY MOM AND DAD WELL GUESS WHAT HE HAS TO PLAY YOUTH SPORTS WITH KIDS HIS CALENDAR AGE. WHEN THEY REACH MIDDLE SCHOOL THE ADVANTAGE SEEMS TO BE LESS EVIDENT. GOOD LUCK TO ALL THIS SUMMER .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not consumed on whether a kid is 11... consumed with the morality in reality of the parents whom we will have to deal with for years to come.
As parents this is the pivital age where we try to stear a child to or away from another child as friends. If the parent isnt moral compASS is not sound, cant say I could imagine the child would grow up to be.
So yeah I do want to know who is bending the rules to their liking, because I DONT WANT MY KID AROUND THAT FAMILY!!!
As parents this is the pivital age where we try to stear a child to or away from another child as friends. If the parent isnt moral compASS is not sound, cant say I could imagine the child would grow up to be.
So yeah I do want to know who is bending the rules to their liking, because I DONT WANT MY KID AROUND THAT FAMILY!!!
Really???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for opinions or feedback on the Express Girls Program--anything is appreciated.
Yellow Jackets is the premier program on the island and one of the best in the country. Liberty (Black) is also a strong team and is run by the Manhasset varsity coach who is an arch rival of the Yellow Jackets found who by the way is also a Manhasset alum but now runs the YJs out of Northport.
The Express girls program is pretty weak from what I understand. fl$ probably has a better girls program than Express.
This poster does not really know what they are talking about. There a few Express girls teams that are very good. However, it is just a few. fl$ girls program is extremely weak. The problem with both of these programs (Express and fl$) is that they care about the boys first and the girls are an after thought.
YJ's have been the top program because they were first. However, if you really want info on the teams, go to the girl's threads and do your research. There are a lot of other options for the girls.
The fact that someone would actually hold their kid back at such a young age for athletic reasons is really what's pathetic, simple solution, just have kids play against other kids their same age, very very simple solution and then this whole argument goes away.
and yes, one of those kids is already 11 as cited by his parent in an earlier post from june, wow, june?
and yes, one of those kids is already 11 as cited by his parent in an earlier post from june, wow, june?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for opinions or feedback on the Express Girls Program--anything is appreciated.
Yellow Jackets is the premier program on the island and one of the best in the country. Liberty (Black) is also a strong team and is run by the Manhasset varsity coach who is an arch rival of the Yellow Jackets found who by the way is also a Manhasset alum but now runs the YJs out of Northport.
The Express girls program is pretty weak from what I understand. fl$ probably has a better girls program than Express.
This poster does not really know what they are talking about. There a few Express girls teams that are very good. However, it is just a few. fl$ girls program is extremely weak. The problem with both of these programs (Express and fl$) is that they care about the boys first and the girls are an after thought.
YJ's have been the top program because they were first. However, if you really want info on the teams, go to the girl's threads and do your research. There are a lot of other options for the girls.
Tristate match ups posted
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for opinions or feedback on the Express Girls Program--anything is appreciated.
Yellow Jackets is the premier program on the island and one of the best in the country. Liberty (Black) is also a strong team and is run by the Manhasset varsity coach who is an arch rival of the Yellow Jackets found who by the way is also a Manhasset alum but now runs the YJs out of Northport.
The Express girls program is pretty weak from what I understand. fl$ probably has a better girls program than Express.
This poster does not really know what they are talking about. There a few Express girls teams that are very good. However, it is just a few. fl$ girls program is extremely weak. The problem with both of these programs (Express and fl$) is that they care about the boys first and the girls are an after thought.
YJ's have been the top program because they were first. However, if you really want info on the teams, go to the girl's threads and do your research. There are a lot of other options for the girls.
I'm not sure about your Liberty and TG quote as being three of the strongest in the country. TG is brand new - 2nd year. They are attracting a lot of girls but that does not mean they are a top program. Liberty has historically been good but has lost some luster. As previous poster stated, YJ's are one of the top programs. However there are plenty of other programs on LI (and in the country) that are up an coming and have very strong teams at certain age groups.
The one key I would add is "buyer beware." Just go to the main BOTC forum and read some of the threads and see if you really want that "type" of team for your daughter.
CageSage - you really should have an Express Boys thread and an Express Girls thread, it would be infinitely easier for everyone to navigate
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CageSage - you really should have an Express Boys thread and an Express Girls thread, it would be infinitely easier for everyone to navigate
Does anyone know how the Li express 3rd grade team (now rising 4th graders) were this year? Did te team do well in league and tournament play? How o hey ompare to 91 and igloo? How was te coaching? Thanks
There ok saw them against jesters 3rd grade at fl$ tournament and they lost in championship .... Although not a fan igloo is by far the best out of this group with 91 taking 2nd ...saw Igloo play 91 at LI lax fest and igloo beat them pretty bad .
Jesters beat 91
Jesters have never played the 91 orange team. The best 3rd grade team is igloo, who has beaten the 91 orange team 3 xs in the championship game.
Write it down today. Jesters will beat Igloo in spring 2013.
This is a LI Express thread
Good luck with that one because it is not happening.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how the Li express 3rd grade team (now rising 4th graders) were this year? Did te team do well in league and tournament play? How o hey ompare to 91 and igloo? How was te coaching? Thanks
You realize you are asking about the merits of a 3rd grade boys lacrosse team, right? I feel like I need to take a shower after reading your post.
Not sure about that although jesters do have some very good players
lets hope that the jesters, 91 and igloo all do well when developing the class of 2020, hopefully they will be polished by the time they come to the express in 6th or 7th grade.
Wonder where past jesters are now. (Forgot about TB)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how the Li express 3rd grade team (now rising 4th graders) were this year? Did te team do well in league and tournament play? How o hey ompare to 91 and igloo? How was te coaching? Thanks
You realize you are asking about the merits of a 3rd grade boys lacrosse team, right? I feel like I need to take a shower after reading your post.
Team 91, Li express, igloo, jesters, havoc, fl$ lite all have 3rd grade programs...but you need to shower when someone asks how one of the programs is, and how it's coached? You are a fool...probably have a mediocre son playing for a two-bit program wishing you had started him in a program a little earlier.
Yes you hit it on the head... i need to put my son with yours to hopefully catch up to him because you have him going to Syracuse soon enough dont you? i really have to buy into the Big Name clubs now or my son is doomed in the Lax World...
You realize you are asking about the merits of a 3rd grade boys lacrosse team, right? I feel like I need to take a shower after reading your post.
Team 91, Li express, igloo, jesters, havoc, fl$ lite all have 3rd grade programs...but you need to shower when someone asks how one of the programs is, and how it's coached? You are a fool...probably have a mediocre son playing for a two-bit program wishing you had started him in a program a little earlier.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how the Li express 3rd grade team (now rising 4th graders) were this year? Did te team do well in league and tournament play? How o hey ompare to 91 and igloo? How was te coaching? Thanks
You realize you are asking about the merits of a 3rd grade boys lacrosse team, right? I feel like I need to take a shower after reading your post.
Team 91, Li express, igloo, jesters, havoc, fl$ lite all have 3rd grade programs...but you need to shower when someone asks how one of the programs is, and how it's coached? You are a fool...probably have a mediocre son playing for a two-bit program wishing you had started him in a program a little earlier.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how the Li express 3rd grade team (now rising 4th graders) were this year? Did te team do well in league and tournament play? How o hey ompare to 91 and igloo? How was te coaching? Thanks
You realize you are asking about the merits of a 3rd grade boys lacrosse team, right? I feel like I need to take a shower after reading your post.
Team 91, Li express, igloo, jesters, havoc, fl$ lite all have 3rd grade programs...but you need to shower when someone asks how one of the programs is, and how it's coached? You are a fool...probably have a mediocre son playing for a two-bit program wishing you had started him in a program a little earlier.
The fact that you respond to my post with a personal attack indicates your painfully low level of education. Keep on talking about 8 year old boys, though.
By the way, my son started playing in 3rd grade at a top program. I certainly wasn't talking about him or his team on an Internet message board back then. Pathetic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how the Li express 3rd grade team (now rising 4th graders) were this year? Did te team do well in league and tournament play? How o hey ompare to 91 and igloo? How was te coaching? Thanks
You realize you are asking about the merits of a 3rd grade boys lacrosse team, right? I feel like I need to take a shower after reading your post.
Team 91, Li express, igloo, jesters, havoc, fl$ lite all have 3rd grade programs...but you need to shower when someone asks how one of the programs is, and how it's coached? You are a fool...probably have a mediocre son playing for a two-bit program wishing you had started him in a program a little earlier.
The fact that you respond to my post with a personal attack indicates your painfully low level of education. Keep on talking about 8 year old boys, though.
By the way, my son started playing in 3rd grade at a top program. I certainly wasn't talking about him or his team on an Internet message board back then. Pathetic.
When you say your son started playing in 3rd grade at a top program are you speaking to the merits of his 3rd grade team? I need a shower, that's creepy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how the Li express 3rd grade team (now rising 4th graders) were this year? Did te team do well in league and tournament play? How o hey ompare to 91 and igloo? How was te coaching? Thanks
You realize you are asking about the merits of a 3rd grade boys lacrosse team, right? I feel like I need to take a shower after reading your post.
Team 91, Li express, igloo, jesters, havoc, fl$ lite all have 3rd grade programs...but you need to shower when someone asks how one of the programs is, and how it's coached? You are a fool...probably have a mediocre son playing for a two-bit program wishing you had started him in a program a little earlier.
The fact that you respond to my post with a personal attack indicates your painfully low level of education. Keep on talking about 8 year old boys, though.
By the way, my son started playing in 3rd grade at a top program. I certainly wasn't talking about him or his team on an Internet message board back then. Pathetic.
When you say your son started playing in 3rd grade at a top program are you speaking to the merits of his 3rd grade team? I need a shower, that's creepy.
No. You opined that he plays for a two-bit program; he does not. I didn't feel the need to brag about his team, nor seek validation from others. You, however, are living vicariously through the life of your 8 year old son. LOL!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how the Li express 3rd grade team (now rising 4th graders) were this year? Did te team do well in league and tournament play? How o hey ompare to 91 and igloo? How was te coaching? Thanks
You realize you are asking about the merits of a 3rd grade boys lacrosse team, right? I feel like I need to take a shower after reading your post.
Team 91, Li express, igloo, jesters, havoc, fl$ lite all have 3rd grade programs...but you need to shower when someone asks how one of the programs is, and how it's coached? You are a fool...probably have a mediocre son playing for a two-bit program wishing you had started him in a program a little earlier.
The fact that you respond to my post with a personal attack indicates your painfully low level of education. Keep on talking about 8 year old boys, though.
By the way, my son started playing in 3rd grade at a top program. I certainly wasn't talking about him or his team on an Internet message board back then. Pathetic.
When you say your son started playing in 3rd grade at a top program are you speaking to the merits of his 3rd grade team? I need a shower, that's creepy.
Yes you do need a shower, for no other reason than to get dressed and get your day started at 3PM.
I just saw that Express is claiming that 2015 Orange was undefeated for Summer 2012 season. Did they forget about Tri-State and the Dukes HHH Team?
When are tryouts?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When are tryouts?
91 announced ryouts dates a few days ago. It's almost guaranteed that Express will announce their tryouts very soon and they will be the week before 91's. Just like last year.
Express orange 2015 beat Dukes , Get it right.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Write it down today. Jesters will beat Igloo in spring 2013.
Oh yeah?!?!
My Dad can take yours anyday!
Team Igloo just announced their tryouts in September, my son wants to tryout for them. They seem like a quality program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express orange 2015 beat Dukes , Get it right.
Excuse me. Orange 2015 lost to NXT at Tristate in the playoffs. Dukes won the championship. Does this not count?
If you think a quality team is when you tell your team to fall down so that they can run out the clock! The parents are horrible and the Coaches are babies! Although they are probably the best team on long island this year, other will be finding players so that igloo will not win every tournament next year!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you think a quality team is when you tell your team to fall down so that they can run out the clock! The parents are horrible and the Coaches are babies! Although they are probably the best team on long island this year, other will be finding players so that igloo will not win every tournament next year!
That's team igloo I'm referring too!
Totally understand if your frustrated with loosing to Team Igloo. They are a quality team. But lets not forget that your talking about 9 year old kids. They ARE STILL BABIES. When they get hurt they cry, they fall down. Your comment speaks for itself; and the type of person you are. The kids on Team 91 are good kids, and so are the kids on Team Igloo. Both sets of kids respect each other and that to me was the biggest take away from this entire year. That kids could be more grown up the some of the parents, like yourself who focus on trivial things like this instead of all the good things.
Igloo's coaches are awesome and so are the parents. That's quite an accusation about telling the team to fall down to run out the clock?! Sounds like you'll find any excuse to put down an outstanding lacrosse team. Go team Igloo!
Does LI Express use any Parent Coachs?
I said igloo was the best third grade lacrosse team, which is why I find it ridiculous that such a good team has to use cheater tactics to win. They are teaching the boys to fall to run out the clock. I don't see how this makes the coaches great!
hello, express thread!!! 3rd grade igloo and 91 play in your own sand box by your pools.
I see Igloo is now having tryouts for their 2021 to be U10 and looks like starting a U9 2022 team. Can I ask a logical question to see if anyone knows, didn't get a response from the Igloo contact. If the to be U10 team has been together for a number of years and having great success, what are these tryouts for $100 for? Are the starting another team or looking to fill 1 or 2 spots on their 2021 team?
Will gladly leave this thread but unfortunately I don't have a pool next to my sandbox.
how do you know they're teaching they' re boys to lay down?? do you know someone on the team? I think you are just a sore loser!
IGLOO ROCKS keep up the great work coaches
IGLOO ROCKS keep up the great work coaches
We are all very happy that you Love Igloo Lax. I am sure that all the people involved are great. It looks like that you are going to increase the number of teams you are fielding next year, good for your organization. Maybe one day you will be the next LIE. But is there any way you can register Team Igloo for their own Blog?? That way you can get all the crazies that every other Team Blog gets, annd we don't have to ead about it on the LIE blog. Thanks and good luck in the future of the Igloo.... 
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I see Igloo is now having tryouts for their 2021 to be U10 and looks like starting a U9 2022 team. Can I ask a logical question to see if anyone knows, didn't get a response from the Igloo contact. If the to be U10 team has been together for a number of years and having great success, what are these tryouts for $100 for? Are the starting another team or looking to fill 1 or 2 spots on their 2021 team?
4 days of tryouts for 3rd and 4th grade team IGLOO.? Must show up 4 times? Are you people serious?
My son really wants to tryout for them, so I had to call. Spoke with the coach and he said its a 100 dollars because it is a four day tryout ($25 a day it breaks down it; not that bad) and they are hiring independent evaluators so that everyone has a fair shot of making the team, and it gives kids more time to be confident during the tryout. The guys seemed very concerned about the kids ability to feel comfortable so that the kids could do their best. I thought that was refreshing.
Ridiculous!!!
Agreed. 3rd and 4th graders, two sessions tops. If you've still got bubble kids, invite only those kids back for a third.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
4 days of tryouts for 3rd and 4th grade team IGLOO.? Must show up 4 times? Are you people serious?
Still no posting of dates & times for Express tryouts. It would be funny if they didn't hold a tryout (especially for older grades) and did a invited placement type thing. Granted there would be loads of $$ left out there by not doing a tryout but it would be different!
$1800 for 3 tournaments was ridiculous. How much are they going to charge this year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still no posting of dates & times for Express tryouts. It would be funny if they didn't hold a tryout (especially for older grades) and did a invited placement type thing. Granted there would be loads of $$ left out there by not doing a tryout but it would be different!
Website says they will be poted soon. Wonder if they will be on the same weekend as all the other teams or if they will be earlier.
So all the below teams posted their tryouts already,
91
Outlaws
Trueblue
Pride
Jesters
Team LI
All EXCEPT EXPRESS! I think its funny as heck! I respect that Express doesn't follow the routine of all these other clubs. They stand alone.
91
Outlaws
Trueblue
Pride
Jesters
Team LI
All EXCEPT EXPRESS! I think its funny as heck! I respect that Express doesn't follow the routine of all these other clubs. They stand alone.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by laxfan14
what does extra travel have to do with the higher fees. they charge more to make more. The express orange teams are the only teams that are worth the money. If you play for blue, white, or any other color you are just making a donation.
I assume they are paying the coaches hotel rooms and maybe some travel fees when playing out of town. That's a cost you don't have when playing on the island.
Good strategy, maybe the want all their kids to delay committing to other teams if they tryout by Express holding their tryouts after all the other major teams are done. That would put a wrinkle in other teams locking down their rosters until mid October...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by laxfan14
what does extra travel have to do with the higher fees. they charge more to make more. The express orange teams are the only teams that are worth the money. If you play for blue, white, or any other color you are just making a donation.
I assume they are paying the coaches hotel rooms and maybe some travel fees when playing out of town. That's a cost you don't have when playing on the island.
Good strategy, maybe the want all their kids to delay committing to other teams if they tryout by Express holding their tryouts after all the other major teams are done. That would put a wrinkle in other teams locking down their rosters until mid October...
You don't delay committing. You either commit or they move on to another kid. Why you try out for ta team and not commit if you made the one you want??? Almost a definate express tryouts will the same weekend as the others or earlier.
Express tweeted that tryouts will be tweeted today, finally!!
Can Anyone Tell Me when tryouts for the express girls 2016 team is?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can Anyone Tell Me when tryouts for the express girls 2016 team is?
Details can be found by contacting the Express organization or their website.
Express tryouts posted - $100 for two two hour session is how I read it. Really? So 91 is $55 and express is $100 - at least igloo give you 4 sessions for $100. Taking a quick survey - which is worth it express or 91 or any of the others? Really - $100 tryout? What am I buying for $100 - $200 more and I can send my son to anyon great camp and get more focus and skill training. Really $100 to tryout format team which is not really a tryout since they will take almost all decent players and have
4 teams - why turn away money.
4 teams - why turn away money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express tryouts posted - $100 for two two hour session is how I read it. Really? So 91 is $55 and express is $100 - at least igloo give you 4 sessions for $100. Taking a quick survey - which is worth it express or 91 or any of the others? Really - $100 tryout? What am I buying for $100 - $200 more and I can send my son to anyon great camp and get more focus and skill training. Really $100 to tryout format team which is not really a tryout since they will take almost all decent players and have
4 teams - why turn away money.
4 teams - why turn away money.
DON'T GO TO THE TRYOUT. Obviously this program is not for you. Stop whining, you are not going to get Barak's ear on this.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express tryouts posted - $100 for two two hour session is how I read it. Really? So 91 is $55 and express is $100 - at least igloo give you 4 sessions for $100. Taking a quick survey - which is worth it express or 91 or any of the others? Really - $100 tryout? What am I buying for $100 - $200 more and I can send my son to anyon great camp and get more focus and skill training. Really $100 to tryout format team which is not really a tryout since they will take almost all decent players and have
4 teams - why turn away money.
4 teams - why turn away money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express tryouts posted - $100 for two two hour session is how I read it. Really? So 91 is $55 and express is $100 - at least igloo give you 4 sessions for $100. Taking a quick survey - which is worth it express or 91 or any of the others? Really - $100 tryout? What am I buying for $100 - $200 more and I can send my son to anyon great camp and get more focus and skill training. Really $100 to tryout format team which is not really a tryout since they will take almost all decent players and have
4 teams - why turn away money.
4 teams - why turn away money.
Good thinking, chose your club based on the cost of the tryout...if your son makes a team you will be paying $3-$4,000 for a year of lacrosse. That will be a complete waste of money if you have a bad coach and it will be money well spent if you have a good dedicated coach...regardless the $50 extra dollars you spent wont much matter. This may sound absolutely crazy but perhaps the clubs are charging more than last year b/c the fields cost more, insurance costs more, they are getting independent evaluators etc. Perhaps some clubs genuinely feel that a mutltiple day tryout allows the kids to get more comfortable and gives the evaluators a better look at the kids.
Well said. If it's such a bad deal why is it every year the Express tryouts draw the most kids.
When you register for the tryout it doesnt give a choice of day I am sure that both days are included in the $100. Not to mention the fee is what the fee is you either want your child to play Express or you don't.
Express listed 5summer tournaments for 4th grade up. What will the tournament situation be for 3rd grade in 2013? Will there be 5 also or will they be doing like 91 2nd grade and have a reduced tuition for the younger kids?
Originally Posted by LaxMom1310
Express listed 5summer tournaments for 4th grade up. What will the tournament situation be for 3rd grade in 2013? Will there be 5 also or will they be doing like 91 2nd grade and have a reduced tuition for the younger kids?
I have a 3rd grade son that is a decent laxer...I have spent some time looking at the options...as best I can tell all of the programs cost about the same, some are all-inclusive and some are a la carte. Look what Igloo is offering for 3-4 graders...fall league play and practice, winter league play and practice, spring league play and pratice plus summer practice and 5 tournaments plus a great package of gear. Igloo even lays out the cost per item...take that information and compare it to what you get elsewhere. dont be fooled by cheaper programs chances are they arent offering off-season training, or league play is additional etc.
The Mustangs give him the fields for free. Little or no insurance, Evaluators all on payroll already. it is 95% profit. Please stop the BS.
How does the Town of Oyster Bay let the fields be used for free in this economic environment ?
The town of oyster bay gets a bond downgrade and one of the reasons was because of declining revenue.
Charge for the fields. This will add some revenue.
All the club teams should be paying for the fields.
It seems Express has the Massapequa fields locked up. Why is that?
Do they have any of the other Town of Oyster Bay fields for tryouts?
The town of oyster bay gets a bond downgrade and one of the reasons was because of declining revenue.
Charge for the fields. This will add some revenue.
All the club teams should be paying for the fields.
It seems Express has the Massapequa fields locked up. Why is that?
Do they have any of the other Town of Oyster Bay fields for tryouts?
Same story every year.
Then go elsewhere ! No one is holding a gun to your head
Ask Mike "This is a FOR Profit" team Chanenchuk that question...>Express only participate in tourneys MR Chanenchuck and friends can profit from. Don't listen to "it's all about the kids". LI Express is all about how much can Mike and friends make while making it sound as if there's a scholarship awaiting every LI Express player. If your kid doesn't make the Express A team, run for the hills. Then again, save your $100 ($100 to tryout....talk about being pompous) and go get coached by others who have just as much experience and superior coaching.....its easy to figure out which teams they are...they're listed under Long Island Clubs on this website
Maybe ti's time for the Express and all the other "elite" teams to start telling all parents how many actual sports are open on each team prior to tryouts? Why isn't this happening now? Because at $100/kid x 100 to 200 kids at each age, they're making money hand over fist
Go elsewhere. Consumers have choices.
Why is the express pompous for charging $100 for two days of tryouts but 91 isn't and they are charging $55 per day??
And while other clubs rent fields, Mr Chanechuk gets his field time for free courtesy of tax payers
The real question is not how much the try out cost how much does THE SUMMER COST. Last year he did not tell you wwhat you where paying until you recieved the invite that you made the team. HE CHARGED EVRYONE AN EXTRA $260 DOLLARS. You should just walk off the cliff how do you buy something not knowing what it cost. Stop drinking the coolade and wake up or just mail your check and stay home.
Watch out current members of 2016 Orange, that's not a light at the end of the tunnel - it's the Chaminade, St Anthony's and Kellenberg freight train.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And while other clubs rent fields, Mr Chanechuk gets his field time for free courtesy of tax payers
someone please do a freedom of information and find out exactly who has these permits and how much they do and do not pay for them and then lets put this subject to rest for ever. I also never understood why this is all on MC, aren't there 4 directors of LI Express? and don't these other men have more prominent coaching positions in HS coaching? and do they or do they not benefit from the sweetheart deals that may or may not exist between TOB and LI Express and why are these men never called out on this while MC is constantly raked over the coals?
fl$ wants 125.00 a tryout. That is absurd!
I am amazed by all of this. There is a very simple solution for the people how have a problem with Club Lacrosse Teams.
Dont play for them, Dont go to their tryouts and Dont come on this site and complain about their business.
Follow the three easy steps listed above and your Problem will go away.
Dont play for them, Dont go to their tryouts and Dont come on this site and complain about their business.
Follow the three easy steps listed above and your Problem will go away.
Dont hold your breath. What's the matter your son still sitting on the bench. Take a hike !!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont hold your breath. What's the matter your son still sitting on the bench. Take a hike !!
who are you responding to?
All spring and summer there were Jesters teams practicing on TOB fields. I also saw 91 teams practicing on them. If Express has the fields "locked up", how does that happen?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watch out current members of 2016 Orange, that's not a light at the end of the tunnel - it's the Chaminade, St Anthony's and Kellenberg freight train.
Happens every year freshman year. They see who comimits to St Anthony or Chaminade and then the tie always goes to those kids over a public school kid. There is room for a few exceptions but count on seeing the majority of black and red helmets and even moreso each year that passes. That is the express agenda. There is still time to enroll in Chaminade if youve put your deposit in but it has to be before classes start. St Anthony's will take a kid later. If you are not sure how this will work out get your kid into one of those two schools ASAP to swing the odds in your favor. Either way you cant go wrong with a better education and a less stressful express experience.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ask Mike "This is a FOR Profit" team Chanenchuk that question...>Express only participate in tourneys MR Chanenchuck and friends can profit from. Don't listen to "it's all about the kids". LI Express is all about how much can Mike and friends make while making it sound as if there's a scholarship awaiting every LI Express player. If your kid doesn't make the Express A team, run for the hills. Then again, save your $100 ($100 to tryout....talk about being pompous) and go get coached by others who have just as much experience and superior coaching.....its easy to figure out which teams they are...they're listed under Long Island Clubs on this website
I do not believe LI Express has ever pretended they were a "Not-for-Profit". They are a business and as such can and will make money. It's that simple!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watch out current members of 2016 Orange, that's not a light at the end of the tunnel - it's the Chaminade, St Anthony's and Kellenberg freight train.
Happens every year freshman year. They see who comimits to St Anthony or Chaminade and then the tie always goes to those kids over a public school kid. There is room for a few exceptions but count on seeing the majority of black and red helmets and even moreso each year that passes. That is the express agenda. There is still time to enroll in Chaminade if youve put your deposit in but it has to be before classes start. St Anthony's will take a kid later. If you are not sure how this will work out get your kid into one of those two schools ASAP to swing the odds in your favor. Either way you cant go wrong with a better education and a less stressful express experience.
I agree. Worked for my kid. He made Orange and had never played Express before. Some public school kids at his position are now on Blue or left the club. My kid is good but I can't say he's better but he made a very good school choice that is working well academically and on the field.
Do you really think so ? Years ago when I ran a softball team there was no such thing as a free field. Taking the current economic state of the county I doubt anyone is getting anything for free.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watch out current members of 2016 Orange, that's not a light at the end of the tunnel - it's the Chaminade, St Anthony's and Kellenberg freight train.
Happens every year freshman year. They see who comimits to St Anthony or Chaminade and then the tie always goes to those kids over a public school kid. There is room for a few exceptions but count on seeing the majority of black and red helmets and even moreso each year that passes. That is the express agenda. There is still time to enroll in Chaminade if youve put your deposit in but it has to be before classes start. St Anthony's will take a kid later. If you are not sure how this will work out get your kid into one of those two schools ASAP to swing the odds in your favor. Either way you cant go wrong with a better education and a less stressful express experience.
I agree. Worked for my kid. He made Orange and had never played Express before. Some public school kids at his position are now on Blue or left the club. My kid is good but I can't say he's better but he made a very good school choice that is working well academically and on the field.
You're proud of this? "My kid is good but I can't say he's better" but, because you pay for your child to go to the coaches school he made the team? Jeeze, I'd be embarrassed to admit that.
MC also gets free fields for his OBLL.
If any club can afford to give some money back in this economy it's the Express. Pretty funny that their address is based in Suffolk county. I live in TOB and find it ridiculous that the fields we so desperately needed because of the large amount of kids in the town are handed over to an organization that is based in not only another township but another county.
If any club can afford to give some money back in this economy it's the Express. Pretty funny that their address is based in Suffolk county. I live in TOB and find it ridiculous that the fields we so desperately needed because of the large amount of kids in the town are handed over to an organization that is based in not only another township but another county.
So how difficult is the competition to get a spot on the Express 2016 team assuming that your kid is going to Chaminade or St. Anthony's?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC also gets free fields for his OBLL.
If any club can afford to give some money back in this economy it's the Express. Pretty funny that their address is based in Suffolk county. I live in TOB and find it ridiculous that the fields we so desperately needed because of the large amount of kids in the town are handed over to an organization that is based in not only another township but another county.
If any club can afford to give some money back in this economy it's the Express. Pretty funny that their address is based in Suffolk county. I live in TOB and find it ridiculous that the fields we so desperately needed because of the large amount of kids in the town are handed over to an organization that is based in not only another township but another county.
Maybe the District Attorney should examine who is on these rosters and I would bet , I mean I know there will be TOB employees kids names. They probably don't pay tuition and don't belong on the team.
District Attorney??? Maybe we can get her to REALLY find out who shot JR...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC also gets free fields for his OBLL.
If any club can afford to give some money back in this economy it's the Express. Pretty funny that their address is based in Suffolk county. I live in TOB and find it ridiculous that the fields we so desperately needed because of the large amount of kids in the town are handed over to an organization that is based in not only another township but another county.
If any club can afford to give some money back in this economy it's the Express. Pretty funny that their address is based in Suffolk county. I live in TOB and find it ridiculous that the fields we so desperately needed because of the large amount of kids in the town are handed over to an organization that is based in not only another township but another county.
Maybe the District Attorney should examine who is on these rosters and I would bet , I mean I know there will be TOB employees kids names. They probably don't pay tuition and don't belong on the team.
Hopefully you hold our elected officials to the same scrutiny. Perhaps you should consider a different activity like chess for your kid
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]MC also gets free fields for his OBLL.
If any club can afford to give some money back in this economy it's the Express. Pretty funny that their address is based in Suffolk county. I live in TOB and find it ridiculous that the fields we so desperately needed because of the large amount of kids in the town are handed over to an organization that is based in not only another township but another county.
If any club can afford to give some money back in this economy it's the Express. Pretty funny that their address is based in Suffolk county. I live in TOB and find it ridiculous that the fields we so desperately needed because of the large amount of kids in the town are handed over to an organization that is based in not only another township but another county.
Maybe the District Attorney should examine who is on these rosters and I would bet , I mean I know there will be TOB employees kids names. They probably don't pay tuition and don't belong on the team.
Hopefully you hold our elected officials to the same scrutiny. Perhaps you should consider a different activity like chess for your kid
Maybe things just aren't for free , try and ask MC to coach for free and see his response. It's called profits and expenses and all travel teams should pay for field usage unless it is for that towns not-for- profit / PAL teams. Why is that so hard for people to wrap their heads around that.
Is there any law that prohibits for-profit groups using the town of oyster bay fields for free ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there any law that prohibits for-profit groups using the town of oyster bay fields for free ?
If I remember correctly, a majority percentage (60% perhaps) of the groups's users need to be TOB residents to use the facilites for free.
Does anyone know with 100% certainty that the fields are not being paid for ? Or is this just another bashing of the Express and MC.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there any law that prohibits for-profit groups using the town of oyster bay fields for free ?
From the TOB website:
FIELD RESERVATIONS
The Permits Division coordinates scheduling for all playing fields, which must be reserved for use during their seasons. Residency requirements must be met. For information, call (516) 797-4120.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there any law that prohibits for-profit groups using the town of oyster bay fields for free ?
The only organizations that can apply for field use permits are not for profits but what happens is these not for profits obtain field permits and the powers that be of said not for profits turn over use to these pirates like MC and others. Now here is the tricky part what is the benefit given to the directors of these organizations and why shouldn't this practice be stopped. But yes there is a law that prohibits these guys from using these fields for profit and there is a long standing something for something arrangement that goes along with this , be it Express , 91 or any other big franchises.
does anybody know the rules about field usage for SUNY Farmingdale, is 91 paying for these fields? of never mind, I don't really care
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anybody know the rules about field usage for SUNY Farmingdale, is 91 paying for these fields? of never mind, I don't really care
If anyone ever wondered what passive aggressive is just read the above post, wowzer.
yes. they do pay for them.
So i guess its cool that the "for profit" Jesters were allowed to practice on town fields all spring and summer? Does their director get the fields to get all their field time by calling this number?
One of the 'for profit' LI Jester Directors lives in the TOB. Also many of the players reside in the TOB, so this could be the reason they use the TOB fields.
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw MC at TOBAY beach last night. I wonder who he knew to get that beach?
You need new material. Joke geting old
I think all these accusations will come to a head soon enough and the free ride will end for all of these travel programs . There are TOB park commissioners very aware of what has gone on and soon enough the Town board will have these issues in front of them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think all these accusations will come to a head soon enough and the free ride will end for all of these travel programs . There are TOB park commissioners very aware of what has gone on and soon enough the Town board will have these issues in front of them.
If these town fields are no longer available at their current prices, who do you think is going to be picking up the tab?
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think all these accusations will come to a head soon enough and the free ride will end for all of these travel programs . There are TOB park commissioners very aware of what has gone on and soon enough the Town board will have these issues in front of them.
If these town fields are no longer available at their current prices, who do you think is going to be picking up the tab?
Well said but even worse what about the kids who want to play. This is a bunch of jealous people that do not understand the hard work these kids put in it is a shame they would suffer
Plaease stop now. Express will soon be $ 2,000
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think all these accusations will come to a head soon enough and the free ride will end for all of these travel programs . There are TOB park commissioners very aware of what has gone on and soon enough the Town board will have these issues in front of them.
If these town fields are no longer available at their current prices, who do you think is going to be picking up the tab?
True but it would be fair and equitable for TOB residents to know that for profit groups are paying their fair share for the use of these fields. I am not saying TOWN PAL teams should pay because they are residents of that park district and it is run by volunteers. Regardless of anyone's opinion these fields are built with and maintained with taxpayer money.
All of this nonsense about who pays for what fields is going to lead to one thing, Illeagal Alliens playing soccer on the nice turf fields that our kids once practiced on.
lol, so true!! be careful what you wish for.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All of this nonsense about who pays for what fields is going to lead to one thing, Illeagal Alliens playing soccer on the nice turf fields that our kids once practiced on.
Cagesage - this post should be taken down at once - this is no place for Xenophobic racist remarks
Xenophobia is defined as an intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries[1] or as an unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange.[2] It comes from the Greek words ξένος (xenos), meaning "stranger," "foreigner," and φόβος (phobos), meaning "fear."[3]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All of this nonsense about who pays for what fields is going to lead to one thing, Illeagal Alliens playing soccer on the nice turf fields that our kids once practiced on.
Cagesage - this post should be taken down at once - this is no place for Xenophobic racist remarks
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All of this nonsense about who pays for what fields is going to lead to one thing, Illeagal Alliens playing soccer on the nice turf fields that our kids once practiced on.
Cagesage - this post should be taken down at once - this is no place for Xenophobic racist remarks
I was NOT offended by soccer, the offense was the assumption that any person with darker skin then the average lacrosse player and is playing soccer must be an illegal alien - had they just said "be careful because the turf would be used by kids playing soccer on the nice fields that our kids once practiced on" then the point would be well taken - but heaven forbid us white lacrosse parents make trouble about who has permits because then our precious turf fields with be over run by illegals who sneak into this country for our turf.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All of this nonsense about who pays for what fields is going to lead to one thing, Illeagal Alliens playing soccer on the nice turf fields that our kids once practiced on.
Cagesage - this post should be taken down at once - this is no place for Xenophobic racist remarks
invalidated the content for people that have a clue maybe but the first reply was "lol, so true!! be careful what you wish for." - lol, so true....I guess it didn't invalidate for that person. - the post should never have been allowed to remain.
I am curious what town they are speaking of.
I know my town has an issue of having a hard time getting permits (recently we were utilization could only be granted if the team was 100% town residents), but for some reason there is always a pickup game of soccer going on utilizing the cages (until the school took them in).
But my town is very eclectic (ok diverse) and anyone posting that it is illigal aliens is just ignorant. They live in the town they just dont need a permit because they dont care.
I know my town has an issue of having a hard time getting permits (recently we were utilization could only be granted if the team was 100% town residents), but for some reason there is always a pickup game of soccer going on utilizing the cages (until the school took them in).
But my town is very eclectic (ok diverse) and anyone posting that it is illigal aliens is just ignorant. They live in the town they just dont need a permit because they dont care.
Give it a break you liberal jackasses!!!
That is great he is a good man
Tell it like it is !! Great post
Whoever is on this thread spewing venom is real gutter trash. As far as fields being used I have no problem paying a little extra if it's the politically correct thing to do. I also don't believe all people should have the privilege to use fields whenever they like.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am curious what town they are speaking of.
I know my town has an issue of having a hard time getting permits (recently we were utilization could only be granted if the team was 100% town residents), but for some reason there is always a pickup game of soccer going on utilizing the cages (until the school took them in).
But my town is very eclectic (ok diverse) and anyone posting that it is illigal aliens is just ignorant. They live in the town they just dont need a permit because they dont care.
I know my town has an issue of having a hard time getting permits (recently we were utilization could only be granted if the team was 100% town residents), but for some reason there is always a pickup game of soccer going on utilizing the cages (until the school took them in).
But my town is very eclectic (ok diverse) and anyone posting that it is illigal aliens is just ignorant. They live in the town they just dont need a permit because they dont care.
Could it be that your fear of being considered ignorant causes you to immediately defend those who offend? How are you privvy to the info regarding their residency status? Also, maybe they SHOULD "care" about obtaining proper permits. We DO care about our town fields and DO NOT fear discarding the naiive "PC" mindset. It gets people hurt in so many ways.
And you voted for OBAMA too !!!!!!!
Does anyone have a rough idea of how many kids typically tryout for Express each year, 8th and 9th grade?
Last year they had roughly 200 trying out for the 9th grade (2015). But the 2015 class is generally considered to be much deeper than 2016. Enough talent in 2015 to have at least 4 or 5 excellent teams on the Island (Express, fl$, Jesters, Ballers). It seems like the 2016 class only has one good team on the Island.
Which team would that be?? Express 2016?
That would be the one - and they're not anywhere close to the best of the talent of the grade above them (Orange 2015).
Obviously that's your opinion and you know what they say about opinions
Does anyone have any idea how many kids tried out yesterday for 2016?
How many teams does Express usually field for each age group or do they decide based on how many go to tryouts and the talent pool each year?
Funny that 2016 Orange beat the 2015 Blue...so much for that theory
That was a bad 2015 Blue team so nothing to write home about. Wasn't talking about that anyway. The 2015 Orange would crush the 2016 Orange 20-0. The 2015 group is light years ahead of where the 2016 group is.
Of course it was a bad team would not expect any other comment but that. 2015 Orange probably would beat 2016 Orange. Just a little foolish on your part to make a blanket statement about 2016 in general, but what do I know
That 2015 blue team had absolutely nobody good on it and yet Orange 2016 only squeaked by them and yet they are the only 2016 team that could beat 2015 blue. The grade is weak except for one team. That's why they only play teams off-island.
Your opinion, though not correct. 2016 Orange did play on the island and did win on the island. Also, played off the island.
Lost 2 games in Md and won the rest in Md, Ct. Thanks for your input
Lost 2 games in Md and won the rest in Md, Ct. Thanks for your input
2016 plyed in the JV bracket of Andy Forsberg and won all their games, including 2015 Blue
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That 2015 blue team had absolutely nobody good on it and yet Orange 2016 only squeaked by them and yet they are the only 2016 team that could beat 2015 blue. The grade is weak except for one team. That's why they only play teams off-island.
Dragging up that old arguement again? LOL. Except for the one team you can't afford to play and whose name shall not be mentioned. The Express's world would end if the game was close or dare I say, they lose.
Don't bother responding, all we have to do is go back in the thread to see the Express approved standard rebuttals. I'd be more interested in hearing about the the kids who got held back last year who will be playing as 2016 grads this year instead of 2015's
These comments are ridiculous and if you take the time to read them back you would realize this is stupidity. Maybe everyone should try playing nicely in the sandbox instead of throwing sand in each others eyes.
You have no idea what you're talking about. 2015 blue had MANY good players on it and an awesome coach. Does it make you feel good about yourself to trash kids??
How many Blue players got Blue Chip and Maverick showtime invites from 2015s or 2016s . The answer - 0 . If your not on orange, you are wasting your money. Look elsewhere
Excellent point. If you are not on the Orange team, then why bother with the express in the 2016 and 2015 age groups. They will do nothing for you.
I think about 110 or so.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Excellent point. If you are not on the Orange team, then why bother with the express in the 2016 and 2015 age groups. They will do nothing for you.
Ok. Then what are the best alternatives for express blue kids who are very good players but for whatever reason can't crack the Orange? Where else can they possibly get invites to maverick show time and blue chip? fl$ 2015 is pretty locked up and any new kids at this point won't get invites over others that have been there for several years. Any other clubs with a track record of sending kids to those camps?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Excellent point. If you are not on the Orange team, then why bother with the express in the 2016 and 2015 age groups. They will do nothing for you.
Ok. Then what are the best alternatives for express blue kids who are very good players but for whatever reason can't crack the Orange? Where else can they possibly get invites to maverick show time and blue chip? fl$ 2015 is pretty locked up and any new kids at this point won't get invites over others that have been there for several years. Any other clubs with a track record of sending kids to those camps?
Outlaws get A LOT of kids into camps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Excellent point. If you are not on the Orange team, then why bother with the express in the 2016 and 2015 age groups. They will do nothing for you.
Ok. Then what are the best alternatives for express blue kids who are very good players but for whatever reason can't crack the Orange? Where else can they possibly get invites to maverick show time and blue chip? fl$ 2015 is pretty locked up and any new kids at this point won't get invites over others that have been there for several years. Any other clubs with a track record of sending kids to those camps?
Outlaws get A LOT of kids into camps.
Realize that HS varsity coaches get most of the kids the invites. Good club programs just support the invite.
Jesters had a bunch also.
How many 2015 kids did Outlaws or Jesters get into Jake Reed or Maverick last year? I can think of two.
2015 outlaws had 4 at Jake Reed
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 2015 kids did Outlaws or Jesters get into Jake Reed or Maverick last year? I can think of two.
Maybe a kid that can't crack express orange is a very good player but not good enough to get an invite to Jake Reed or Showtime? anybody that wanted to go to Jake Reed and did not get a direct invite had the opportunity to go to 3D in Fla and earn an invitation on the field, 1/2 of all of Jake Reed campers went this route so it didn't matter who they played for. there are 175 invites for showtime and it is a national event so how many invites can LI have 30? 40? if 25% come from LI, that would be about 44 kids> You have, Jester, Express, Ballers, 91, fl$ as well as a lot of kids playing town (WI, WM ect) so all I am saying is if a kid can't make Orange and can't make fl$ chances are that finding another club just to get invites may not be practical, also with invitations going out this week for showtime and end of month for Jake Reed changing clubs now will not even help for next summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 2015 kids did Outlaws or Jesters get into Jake Reed or Maverick last year? I can think of two.
And how many of the express kids on under armour team were gifted their spots by their express directors, who coincidentally were the under armour coaches?.....I can think of a lot more than two. The point is that these spots have a lot more to do with politics than people will admit, and many more talented players are ignored to make room for kids that are connected. Sonletsnnot pretend that the number of camp invites is an accurate measure of level of play of any specific club team.
True Blue has already made moves for kids..good things going on there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 2015 kids did Outlaws or Jesters get into Jake Reed or Maverick last year? I can think of two.
Maybe a kid that can't crack express orange is a very good player but not good enough to get an invite to Jake Reed or Showtime? anybody that wanted to go to Jake Reed and did not get a direct invite had the opportunity to go to 3D in Fla and earn an invitation on the field, 1/2 of all of Jake Reed campers went this route so it didn't matter who they played for. there are 175 invites for showtime and it is a national event so how many invites can LI have 30? 40? if 25% come from LI, that would be about 44 kids> You have, Jester, Express, Ballers, 91, fl$ as well as a lot of kids playing town (WI, WM ect) so all I am saying is if a kid can't make Orange and can't make fl$ chances are that finding another club just to get invites may not be practical, also with invitations going out this week for showtime and end of month for Jake Reed changing clubs now will not even help for next summer.
Don't get crazy over Jake and Showtime. We know lots of families that have had their sons recruited by several top 20 schools that did not go to either camp. Its not the only game in town by any stretch and if you don't go its not the end of the world. There are tons of other great camps - school specific as well that are open to just about everybody. If your son does well at those venues he'll be recruited along with the rest of the "chosen". Besides, if your kid doesn't have the work ethic in the classroom, neither Jake now Showtime can make up for that. Trust me.
Not making comments about Jake Reed or Maverick - just responding to a previous post who said "A LOT" of kids from Jesters and Outlaws make Jake Reed and Maverick. That simply isn't accurate. Both teams had very successful 2014 teams with lots of talented kids. The dropoff from those teams to younger teams is dramatic. It simply is a fact.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not making comments about Jake Reed or Maverick - just responding to a previous post who said "A LOT" of kids from Jesters and Outlaws make Jake Reed and Maverick. That simply isn't accurate. Both teams had very successful 2014 teams with lots of talented kids. The dropoff from those teams to younger teams is dramatic. It simply is a fact.
That maybe for the Jesters, but not Outlaws.
Outlaws 2016 is very very good, probably will be better than 2014. They also have a very good team at the 2017, 2018, and 2019 age levels. And like most people know, the outlaws teams develop over years and become very very talented. Outlaws are well respected by showtime, jake Reid and many other camps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not making comments about Jake Reed or Maverick - just responding to a previous post who said "A LOT" of kids from Jesters and Outlaws make Jake Reed and Maverick. That simply isn't accurate. Both teams had very successful 2014 teams with lots of talented kids. The dropoff from those teams to younger teams is dramatic. It simply is a fact.
That maybe for the Jesters, but not Outlaws.
Outlaws 2016 is very very good, probably will be better than 2014. They also have a very good team at the 2017, 2018, and 2019 age levels. And like most people know, the outlaws teams develop over years and become very very talented. Outlaws are well respected by showtime, jake Reid and many other camps.
2017? Really??
Outlaws are respected because they are a class organization. No doubt. But to say they get "A LOT" of kids into Maverick and Jake Reed is inaccurate.
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True Blue has already made moves for kids..good things going on there.
The work on the street is that they are taking kids from other organizations "b" teams and promising them they will play on the a team for them. A bunch of "b" players still makes them a "b" team no matter what TB calls them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Outlaws are respected because they are a class organization. No doubt. But to say they get "A LOT" of kids into Maverick and Jake Reed is inaccurate.
My video of the 2016 coach doesn't reflect any class.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 2015 kids did Outlaws or Jesters get into Jake Reed or Maverick last year? I can think of two.
Maybe a kid that can't crack express orange is a very good player but not good enough to get an invite to Jake Reed or Showtime? anybody that wanted to go to Jake Reed and did not get a direct invite had the opportunity to go to 3D in Fla and earn an invitation on the field, 1/2 of all of Jake Reed campers went this route so it didn't matter who they played for. there are 175 invites for showtime and it is a national event so how many invites can LI have 30? 40? if 25% come from LI, that would be about 44 kids> You have, Jester, Express, Ballers, 91, fl$ as well as a lot of kids playing town (WI, WM ect) so all I am saying is if a kid can't make Orange and can't make fl$ chances are that finding another club just to get invites may not be practical, also with invitations going out this week for showtime and end of month for Jake Reed changing clubs now will not even help for next summer.
This is a little heavy handed and not entirely accurate. There are definately kids who play for the Express Blue that are getting invites to Jake Reed - becasue they are very good players. Sometimes not making Orange is either a numbers game, injury issue or a school game and not necessarily a talent thing. Some of those kids on the Blue could play for any other club if they tried out but they decide to stay with Express because it is generally a solid expreience and a nationally recognized program with the college coaches. Interesting fact, at least two 2015 kids who made the fl$ 2015 team this summer didn't even make the Express Blue - they were placed on the Express White and then decided to try out for fl$. You can read whatever you want into that about Express, fl$ or the process in general, which is hardly an exact science.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 2015 kids did Outlaws or Jesters get into Jake Reed or Maverick last year? I can think of two.
Maybe a kid that can't crack express orange is a very good player but not good enough to get an invite to Jake Reed or Showtime? anybody that wanted to go to Jake Reed and did not get a direct invite had the opportunity to go to 3D in Fla and earn an invitation on the field, 1/2 of all of Jake Reed campers went this route so it didn't matter who they played for. there are 175 invites for showtime and it is a national event so how many invites can LI have 30? 40? if 25% come from LI, that would be about 44 kids> You have, Jester, Express, Ballers, 91, fl$ as well as a lot of kids playing town (WI, WM ect) so all I am saying is if a kid can't make Orange and can't make fl$ chances are that finding another club just to get invites may not be practical, also with invitations going out this week for showtime and end of month for Jake Reed changing clubs now will not even help for next summer.
This is a little heavy handed and not entirely accurate. There are definately kids who play for the Express Blue that are getting invites to Jake Reed - becasue they are very good players. Sometimes not making Orange is either a numbers game, injury issue or a school game and not necessarily a talent thing. Some of those kids on the Blue could play for any other club if they tried out but they decide to stay with Express because it is generally a solid expreience and a nationally recognized program with the college coaches. Interesting fact, at least two 2015 kids who made the fl$ 2015 team this summer didn't even make the Express Blue - they were placed on the Express White and then decided to try out for fl$. You can read whatever you want into that about Express, fl$ or the process in general, which is hardly an exact science.
And I think I remember hearing that Will Manny (Yes - the UMASS Will Manny) never made Express Orange.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Outlaws are respected because they are a class organization. No doubt. But to say they get "A LOT" of kids into Maverick and Jake Reed is inaccurate.
My video of the 2016 coach doesn't reflect any class.
What does that mean?
Anybody see the 2 page Long Island Express advertisement in the latest edition of Inside Lacrosse? Any thoughts? 825 kids, wow.
Alot of 91 helmets at Express tryout tonight.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Alot of 91 helmets at Express tryout tonight.
Ahh, yes. They had heard how virtuous the organization has beecome.
Not virtuous just better..and yes my son was part of the 91 organization...not a god experience
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Alot of 91 helmets at Express tryout tonight.
a lot of helmets, period. about 140 kids - 45 defense alone - i think they could make 5 teams in the 2018 if all these kids stay and aren't just there for Orange or out
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Alot of 91 helmets at Express tryout tonight.
I guess their 91 tryouts didn't go as well as planned....they have to find somewhere to play it may as well be the express..............I'm guessing that wasn't the point you were trying to make. Lol
What's the prediction on number of teams for Express for 2020?
St. A's coach has the Orange team locked in. Heard the 2020 Blue team last year wasn't much fun or worthwhile.
St. A's coach has the Orange team locked in. Heard the 2020 Blue team last year wasn't much fun or worthwhile.
my point is more than a few people had bad experiences with 91 last year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Alot of 91 helmets at Express tryout tonight.
a lot of helmets, period. about 140 kids - 45 defense alone - i think they could make 5 teams in the 2018 if all these kids stay and aren't just there for Orange or out
Express will probably make as many as possible (teams). Whether or not they line up good coaching, or ANY coaching is the issue to be weighed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Alot of 91 helmets at Express tryout tonight.
a lot of helmets, period. about 140 kids - 45 defense alone - i think they could make 5 teams in the 2018 if all these kids stay and aren't just there for Orange or out
Express will probably make as many as possible (teams). Whether or not they line up good coaching, or ANY coaching is the issue to be weighed.
they will always take the money!!
Anyone at the 2016 tryouts yesterday have an idea of how many teams they are planning for 2016?
Alot of kids...talent pool looked shallow
As long as people want to pay, there were enough for 4 or 5 teams of varying quality
As long as people want to pay, there were enough for 4 or 5 teams of varying quality
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Outlaws are respected because they are a class organization. No doubt. But to say they get "A LOT" of kids into Maverick and Jake Reed is inaccurate.
My video of the 2016 coach doesn't reflect any class.
Give me a break ,post the video or shut up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Alot of 91 helmets at Express tryout tonight.
I guess their 91 tryouts didn't go as well as planned....they have to find somewhere to play it may as well be the express..............I'm guessing that wasn't the point you were trying to make. Lol
Exactly. Parents of "B" and "C" players who think their kids are superstars when they are not. Reality will come when their kids are not offered positions on the orange express teams.
A lot of Outlaws kids at the 2020 tryouts this weekend. Also a lot of Express helmets. If all those kids come back they will have enough for 3 teams. Best of luck to all.
Does anyone know when the 2016 invitations for 2013 express teams will go out?
There were only 3 spots 2020 was looking to fill on the orange team. Curious to see what the roster would look like if no one was allowed to wear Express helmets or gear for the tryout
We just got the e-mail for the Philly Showcase with the list of kids. My son on Express got invited along with a lot of other express kids. There also seemed to be a lot of Outlaws, but no 91 kids.
What's up with that?
What's up with that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A lot of Outlaws kids at the 2020 tryouts this weekend. Also a lot of Express helmets. If all those kids come back they will have enough for 3 teams. Best of luck to all.
That is funny because last years Outlaws team was combined 2019/2020. With only 5 or 6 2020.
1 of them being the directors son.
So if there were a lot of kids with Outlaws Helmets I hope the director doesnt find out his 5th grade son was at another tryout!
Does anyone know if Lynott will be coaching on the 2018 orange this year? He wasn't at the Express tryout and rumor has it that he isn't coaching this year.
I was at the Express evals this weekend too, saw a "few" Outlawas helmets (4 or 5). One kid looked real talented, fast middie. You cant go by this, older brother could have new helmet and younger brother wearing the old one. I wouldnt worry to much about this stuff, worry about all the express helmets. Cheers!
He was at the 2016 tryout.
2020 Outlaws weak this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He was at the 2016 tryout.
JL was at 2017 also
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 Outlaws weak this year.
Based on what?
you'll see
Can we keep this about the Express, and leave the Outlaws out of this thread. Dont they have their own thread on here.
If they only had 5 2020 kids last year they have to start from scratch this year
My understanding of the Express program, was that ALL of the resources went into the Orange program, and if you don't make Orange it isn't worth it. I think that may explain why they get so many kids at tryouts, but not that many kids hang around to fill out the Blue team and any others
Tell the kids Will Manny form U MAss necer made Express Orange plenty of opportunities with Blue
Outlaws will have 2 2020 Teams
Again this is the express thread, no one on here really cares what the outlaws are doing and how many teams they have. Take it over to their thread if they have one.
Did the invites for 2016 go out already?
Heard they did.
Did email invites go out or calls for both 2017 and 2016?
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Did email invites go out or calls for both 2017 and 2016?
nothing went out yet
Check your e mails
why did emails go out...
If any of you had listened to MC invites are going out Fri
Hold your water if you are that concerned you are probably not getting on the team you think!!
Hold your water if you are that concerned you are probably not getting on the team you think!!
Stay tuned- many talking about new model for Express may be a mega team of 42-46 players. This was conversation had first with 2018 and now 2017. You may get email "congrats you made THE TEAM" and have no idea the team is 40 something kids. Top kids play A, bottom play B, and the middle have to find their way each week. Great business move- all the kids/families feel obligated to do every paid workout and clinic to prove their worth, captive business. Just talk- I guess find out soon enough if any truth to it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stay tuned- many talking about new model for Express may be a mega team of 42-46 players. This was conversation had first with 2018 and now 2017. You may get email "congrats you made THE TEAM" and have no idea the team is 40 something kids. Top kids play A, bottom play B, and the middle have to find their way each week. Great business move- all the kids/families feel obligated to do every paid workout and clinic to prove their worth, captive business. Just talk- I guess find out soon enough if any truth to it.
Great post! Ive heard this as well, great way to keep the bubble kids from looking elsewhere
It is a very poor business decision. It may keep players for this year (because all the other try-outs are completed), but all of the kids will know that they are on a A team or a B team. What kid that played A would come back next year of they moved him to B tournament team??? Not mine for sure.
All of the top players will move to 91, Team LI, fl$...they will go where they know after try-outs-if they are on an A or a B team.
All of the top players will move to 91, Team LI, fl$...they will go where they know after try-outs-if they are on an A or a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stay tuned- many talking about new model for Express may be a mega team of 42-46 players. This was conversation had first with 2018 and now 2017. You may get email "congrats you made THE TEAM" and have no idea the team is 40 something kids. Top kids play A, bottom play B, and the middle have to find their way each week. Great business move- all the kids/families feel obligated to do every paid workout and clinic to prove their worth, captive business. Just talk- I guess find out soon enough if any truth to it.
It's Orange or nothing for my kid. They will have you in the hub 5 days a week.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ = Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stay tuned- many talking about new model for Express may be a mega team of 42-46 players. This was conversation had first with 2018 and now 2017. You may get email "congrats you made THE TEAM" and have no idea the team is 40 something kids. Top kids play A, bottom play B, and the middle have to find their way each week. Great business move- all the kids/families feel obligated to do every paid workout and clinic to prove their worth, captive business. Just talk- I guess find out soon enough if any truth to it.
These other teams also move kids around throughout the year even if they don't say so up front. Some say that you MUST be at a tryout and then new kids sprinkle in as the year goes along. All of these teams are about putting on the best show so they can attract the best kids going forward and the most kids at a tryout. The tryouts are a huge money maker.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is a very poor business decision. It may keep players for this year (because all the other try-outs are completed), but all of the kids will know that they are on a A team or a B team. What kid that played A would come back next year of they moved him to B tournament team??? Not mine for sure.
All of the top players will move to 91, Team LI, fl$...they will go where they know after try-outs-if they are on an A or a B team.
All of the top players will move to 91, Team LI, fl$...they will go where they know after try-outs-if they are on an A or a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is a very poor business decision. It may keep players for this year (because all the other try-outs are completed), but all of the kids will know that they are on a A team or a B team. What kid that played A would come back next year of they moved him to B tournament team??? Not mine for sure.
All of the top players will move to 91, Team LI, fl$...they will go where they know after try-outs-if they are on an A or a B team.
All of the top players will move to 91, Team LI, fl$...they will go where they know after try-outs-if they are on an A or a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's Orange or nothing for my kid. They will have you in the hub 5 days a week.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ = Express.
You are correct. Our son has been with the orange for past three years, they do this we are gone from the express. TB here we come.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stay tuned- many talking about new model for Express may be a mega team of 42-46 players. This was conversation had first with 2018 and now 2017. You may get email "congrats you made THE TEAM" and have no idea the team is 40 something kids. Top kids play A, bottom play B, and the middle have to find their way each week. Great business move- all the kids/families feel obligated to do every paid workout and clinic to prove their worth, captive business. Just talk- I guess find out soon enough if any truth to it.
Who is this MANY you talk about? I think your making this crap up. Express would be fools if they did that.
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It is a very poor business decision. It may keep players for this year (because all the other try-outs are completed), but all of the kids will know that they are on a A team or a B team. What kid that played A would come back next year of they moved him to B tournament team??? Not mine for sure.
All of the top players will move to 91, Team LI, fl$...they will go where they know after try-outs-if they are on an A or a B team.
All of the top players will move to 91, Team LI, fl$...they will go where they know after try-outs-if they are on an A or a B team.
spot on!
I have had boys play for A teams at the town and the select team levels. In the 10 years i have been schlepping them around to fields, they have learned a bunch and for that I am thankful.
That said, if a team tells my kid he is one of forty there is no way i would shell out $2500. As a matter of fact--for all the B team parents--you are crazy to shell out that money and not get top of the line coaching. each of you has a town team with a parent coach that provides the same experience and training. you are better off paying a colloge kid from hofstra or stony brook for one on one training than you are giving one of these teams $2500 so your kid can wear the uniform...
That said, if a team tells my kid he is one of forty there is no way i would shell out $2500. As a matter of fact--for all the B team parents--you are crazy to shell out that money and not get top of the line coaching. each of you has a town team with a parent coach that provides the same experience and training. you are better off paying a colloge kid from hofstra or stony brook for one on one training than you are giving one of these teams $2500 so your kid can wear the uniform...
emails are out
emails are out , wait until you see what they are charging !
good luck!!!
good luck!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stay tuned- many talking about new model for Express may be a mega team of 42-46 players. This was conversation had first with 2018 and now 2017. You may get email "congrats you made THE TEAM" and have no idea the team is 40 something kids. Top kids play A, bottom play B, and the middle have to find their way each week. Great business move- all the kids/families feel obligated to do every paid workout and clinic to prove their worth, captive business. Just talk- I guess find out soon enough if any truth to it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stay tuned- many talking about new model for Express may be a mega team of 42-46 players. This was conversation had first with 2018 and now 2017. You may get email "congrats you made THE TEAM" and have no idea the team is 40 something kids. Top kids play A, bottom play B, and the middle have to find their way each week. Great business move- all the kids/families feel obligated to do every paid workout and clinic to prove their worth, captive business. Just talk- I guess find out soon enough if any truth to it.
Transparency. Yeah okay. Maybe if you say please. $2400.........
Got Email. Made 2016 Wolverine Team Anyone know which team that is???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stay tuned- many talking about new model for Express may be a mega team of 42-46 players. This was conversation had first with 2018 and now 2017. You may get email "congrats you made THE TEAM" and have no idea the team is 40 something kids. Top kids play A, bottom play B, and the middle have to find their way each week. Great business move- all the kids/families feel obligated to do every paid workout and clinic to prove their worth, captive business. Just talk- I guess find out soon enough if any truth to it.
Transparency? LMAO, you got the wrong organization
new to express...which team is the 2017 piranhas?
Don't know.
Anyone know if all emails went out?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
new to express...which team is the 2017 piranhas?
The Piranhas no longer exist, most of the team left to go elsewhere
Do a search, you will learn a lot
Originally Posted by Anonymous
new to express...which team is the 2017 piranhas?
That would be the Blue team
can someone layout the Piranah Wolverine --- anything other animals pecking order.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
new to express...which team is the 2017 piranhas?
2017 Piranhas were an Express team last year. Talented kids that were doing well and on the rise. Look back in thread and you can find the history of what happened. Most of these kids that made the "Piranhas" team are now gone and will play for another organization.
My guess, in using the name Piranhas, is to capitalize on the success of the former team so you think your son will be part of something good.
The team is gone.
So is the 2020 Hammerheads actually the Orange team from last year? And is there anything to the "Megateam" rumor?
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Site says there will be an option for fall tournaments. What fall tournaments does Express plan on doing?
Did 91 and Express make peace so both will be at Stony Brook events or Lax fest?
Did 91 and Express make peace so both will be at Stony Brook events or Lax fest?
What is Mega team what age is that?
In a previous post someone mentioned 40+ boys on a team (Mega Team). With the change from colors to animal names - I would really like to know what the names of the 2020 teams are and how that translates from last years teams?
Can anyone help with that?
Can anyone help with that?
Is this happening for sure? Did these invites go out?
Did all invites go out?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
new to express...which team is the 2017 piranhas?
2017 Piranhas were an Express team last year. Talented kids that were doing well and on the rise. Look back in thread and you can find the history of what happened. Most of these kids that made the "Piranhas" team are now gone and will play for another organization.
My guess, in using the name Piranhas, is to capitalize on the success of the former team so you think your son will be part of something good.
The team is gone.
All teams are "gone" from last season. Piranhas kids that weren't invited to the Express group that MC coached at the late summer tournament in Dix Hills well those parents quit and went to Jesters. A bulk of that group from hills tournament seem to be part of this new 2017 Express Terps coached by MC and JL. Which for quite some time on this board that group was referred to as Sharks, apparently they are the Terps now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
Are all of the emails out for express 2016
Have all emails for 2016 express gone out
Are all emails out for 2016 express
That's the fourth team
So all emails are out
Yes the bottom at 2400 what a joke
2400 that is insane MC has gone to far this time if people stay with program they are nuts IF YOUR KID IS A GOOD PLAYER HE WILL BE FOUND THE EXPRESS HAS GONE TO FAR GOOD LUCK PEOPLE
AND WE HAVE TO BE MORONS TO FOLLOW
AND WE HAVE TO BE MORONS TO FOLLOW
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
FIRST- You will not retain the same team in pay for play lax. Deal with it.
SECONDLY- No club changes roster more than Express. Not one. Most situations support enhancing rosters weekly, borrowing from same-aged teams to fortify for tourneys. This is so, and there are many whom can support this with fact, as can I. The Piranhas were an evolving situation as well. They were also SENT players to help out, from time to time, usually on tournament weekends. This WILL happen yearly. Simply watch.
...from a distance!
How many kids does express take on there orange or "A" teams?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
FIRST- You will not retain the same team in pay for play lax. Deal with it.
SECONDLY- No club changes roster more than Express. Not one. Most situations support enhancing rosters weekly, borrowing from same-aged teams to fortify for tourneys. This is so, and there are many whom can support this with fact, as can I. The Piranhas were an evolving situation as well. They were also SENT players to help out, from time to time, usually on tournament weekends. This WILL happen yearly. Simply watch.
...from a distance!
100 percent, absolutely not true, the Piranhas, were never "sent" players on tournament weekends. The team added one kid after tryouts (from another Express team) and dropped one kid during the season. That was the only variation in the roster the whole year. Your facts are wrong plain and simple.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
You wanna see crying? Wait about two months when all these 2017 Orange parents realize that their "super" team isnt so super. Gonna be lots of crying when they all realize theyll probably be the 3rd or 4th best team at the age group on Long Island....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
FIRST- You will not retain the same team in pay for play lax. Deal with it.
SECONDLY- No club changes roster more than Express. Not one. Most situations support enhancing rosters weekly, borrowing from same-aged teams to fortify for tourneys. This is so, and there are many whom can support this with fact, as can I. The Piranhas were an evolving situation as well. They were also SENT players to help out, from time to time, usually on tournament weekends. This WILL happen yearly. Simply watch.
...from a distance!
Totally false statement about Piranhas! Same kids from from September 2011 to the last tournament at Stowe in July. They actually lost goalie to injury, defense man to injury, attack-man moved to another team and never added a player, yes was a good bunch of kids and great experience for all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
You wanna see crying? Wait about two months when all these 2017 Orange parents realize that their "super" team isnt so super. Gonna be lots of crying when they all realize theyll probably be the 3rd or 4th best team at the age group on Long Island....
and what super team did your son make?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
FIRST- You will not retain the same team in pay for play lax. Deal with it.
SECONDLY- No club changes roster more than Express. Not one. Most situations support enhancing rosters weekly, borrowing from same-aged teams to fortify for tourneys. This is so, and there are many whom can support this with fact, as can I. The Piranhas were an evolving situation as well. They were also SENT players to help out, from time to time, usually on tournament weekends. This WILL happen yearly. Simply watch.
...from a distance!
First- the Piranhas didn't evolve. Evolving implies small changes over long periods. We all know rosters should evolve, thanks for the wisdom coach. The vast majority of the kids left to go play elsewhere, 91, Jesters, etc.. The team name is being used for its brief run at success to suck people into program.
Second- the Piranhas never had a player SENT to help on tournament weekends. The only player WE ever borrowed was a 6th grade goalie (played up to help us) at Tri state when our other goalie broke his hand.
Third- don't comment on this team any longer. WE have all moved on.
are all emails out
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
No, but you sound pretty upset. Assume you were a McManus parent. Yeah, it's over and so happy to leave. So you don't have to worry about us bruising your very fragile ego anymore.
IS there any info as to what teams are A,B,C in 2020 with the new animal names? Hammerheads being the ? team, and how many kids have they taken?
Originally Posted by crgabc
IS there any info as to what teams are A,B,C in 2020 with the new animal names? Hammerheads being the ? team, and how many kids have they taken?
Yes, if you were "A" you would know it
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
No, but you sound pretty upset. Assume you were a McManus parent. Yeah, it's over and so happy to leave. So you don't have to worry about us bruising your very fragile ego anymore.
Actually Im a Gladiator parent. All season a few of you came on here talking about this great thing your team had and now its busted up because your director (MC) made a stronger team due to the fact its HIS club and you guys keep crying. We lost good players also.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
You wanna see crying? Wait about two months when all these 2017 Orange
parents realize that their "super" team isnt so super. Gonna be lots of crying when they all realize theyll probably be the 3rd or 4th best team at the age group on Long Island....
What 2017 Orange team are you talking about? The new Express Channy Terps team? Is that the team you claim is going to be the "3rd or 4th" best? If your answer is YES than you really are OUT OF TOUCH to the talent pool on LI in 2017. the Terps 2017 jammed with talent.
I for one would not want to be on a team called the "Hammerheads". Hope they are kidding around with that. The express amphibian names are just as funny...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
You wanna see crying? Wait about two months when all these 2017 Orange
parents realize that their "super" team isnt so super. Gonna be lots of crying when they all realize theyll probably be the 3rd or 4th best team at the age group on Long Island....
What 2017 Orange team are you talking about? The new Express Channy Terps team? Is that the team you claim is going to be the "3rd or 4th" best? If your answer is YES than you really are OUT OF TOUCH to the talent pool on LI in 2017. the Terps 2017 jammed with talent.
Not out of touch at all, I know the new "Terps" team will be a good team and they have talent. But correct me if im wrong wasn't it a stated goal of one your "super" coaches that this team would be the one to challenge the Turtles? Got bad news for you, your new Terps team is not even close to the Turtles level, 91 Orange is gonna smack you around and I think you'll have a hard time with TB or the Gladiators. But good luck with that anyway..........
What team is the Wolverines for the 2016 boys?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
You wanna see crying? Wait about two months when all these 2017 Orange
parents realize that their "super" team isnt so super. Gonna be lots of crying when they all realize theyll probably be the 3rd or 4th best team at the age group on Long Island....
What 2017 Orange team are you talking about? The new Express Channy Terps team? Is that the team you claim is going to be the "3rd or 4th" best? If your answer is YES than you really are OUT OF TOUCH to the talent pool on LI in 2017. the Terps 2017 jammed with talent.
Not out of touch at all, I know the new "Terps" team will be a good team and they have talent. But correct me if im wrong wasn't it a stated goal of one your "super" coaches that this team would be the one to challenge the Turtles? Got bad news for you, your new Terps team is not even close to the Turtles level, 91 Orange is gonna smack you around and I think you'll have a hard time with TB or the Gladiators. But good luck with that anyway..........
You really have no idea what your talking about. 91 added a several new players, I'm watching TB is have their tryout RIGHT NOW and Turtles have some players whom left. Therefore, its unknown how those three teams will be including the Terps. BUT, if you really know the players DO THE MATCH UP's. I can assure your that this 2017 Terps team will win ONE or TWO games in 2013. And best of luck to you also.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
You wanna see crying? Wait about two months when all these 2017 Orange
parents realize that their "super" team isnt so super. Gonna be lots of crying when they all realize theyll probably be the 3rd or 4th best team at the age group on Long Island....
What 2017 Orange team are you talking about? The new Express Channy Terps team? Is that the team you claim is going to be the "3rd or 4th" best? If your answer is YES than you really are OUT OF TOUCH to the talent pool on LI in 2017. the Terps 2017 jammed with talent.
Not out of touch at all, I know the new "Terps" team will be a good team and they have talent. But correct me if im wrong wasn't it a stated goal of one your "super" coaches that this team would be the one to challenge the Turtles? Got bad news for you, your new Terps team is not even close to the Turtles level, 91 Orange is gonna smack you around and I think you'll have a hard time with TB or the Gladiators. But good luck with that anyway..........
You really have no idea what your talking about. 91 added a several new players, I'm watching TB is have their tryout RIGHT NOW and Turtles have some players whom left. Therefore, its unknown how those three teams will be including the Terps. BUT, if you really know the players DO THE MATCH UP's. I can assure your that this 2017 Terps team will win ONE or TWO games in 2013. And best of luck to you also.
I think it's pretty obvious that all of these teams improved their already very good teams, I don't think there is any disputing that.
What team is the Wolverines for the 2016 boys?
The 3rd team I believe
The 3rd team I believe
Agreed. The pressure is on this team to succeed. If your prediction comes true, there will be plenty of finger pointing.
Gladiators lol. Didn't their best players defect?
what is the 2016 terps
Teams seem to go from water to land. Baracuda = A, Terps = B Wolverines = C
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
You wanna see crying? Wait about two months when all these 2017 Orange
parents realize that their "super" team isnt so super. Gonna be lots of crying when they all realize theyll probably be the 3rd or 4th best team at the age group on Long Island....
What 2017 Orange team are you talking about? The new Express Channy Terps team? Is that the team you claim is going to be the "3rd or 4th" best? If your answer is YES than you really are OUT OF TOUCH to the talent pool on LI in 2017. the Terps 2017 jammed with talent.
.... jammed with dysfunction?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Gladiators lol. Didn't their best players defect?
1 dman to 91 and a mid to Turtles - not exactly a defection.
They should call that team the friends and business partners team. that is how they pick it. Jack Moran is is a great actor running the try out like it mattered. No pride in that man.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
You wanna see crying? Wait about two months when all these 2017 Orange
parents realize that their "super" team isnt so super. Gonna be lots of crying when they all realize theyll probably be the 3rd or 4th best team at the age group on Long Island....
What 2017 Orange team are you talking about? The new Express Channy Terps team? Is that the team you claim is going to be the "3rd or 4th" best? If your answer is YES than you really are OUT OF TOUCH to the talent pool on LI in 2017. the Terps 2017 jammed with talent.
.... jammed with dysfunction?
dysfunction?? ha! Quite the opposite. We don't have short order cooks from a diner in our kitchen. Just a couple of world class chef's. Enjoy your day & keep hating.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
You wanna see crying? Wait about two months when all these 2017 Orange
parents realize that their "super" team isnt so super. Gonna be lots of crying when they all realize theyll probably be the 3rd or 4th best team at the age group on Long Island....
What 2017 Orange team are you talking about? The new Express Channy Terps team? Is that the team you claim is going to be the "3rd or 4th" best? If your answer is YES than you really are OUT OF TOUCH to the talent pool on LI in 2017. the Terps 2017 jammed with talent.
.... jammed with dysfunction?
Dysfunction???? wow guess you really don't know do you. A good part of the new orange terp team have been practicing and training together since the end of July. Exact opposite of dysfunction, seems to be more chemistry building.
You been playing together? more like paying together, look around the next pradtice at least 5 of you will be replaced by the summer.
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "real" 2017 Piranhas are done. What a shame, great bunch of kids, coaches and parents. They can call this team the Piranhas all they want, but they will never stack up to the original.
Oh god, PLEASE stop crying about the great group of parents, players and coaches the piranhas had! Its OVER. Holy crap broken record, let it GO. Is your kid as upset as you?
You wanna see crying? Wait about two months when all these 2017 Orange
parents realize that their "super" team isnt so super. Gonna be lots of crying when they all realize theyll probably be the 3rd or 4th best team at the age group on Long Island....
What 2017 Orange team are you talking about? The new Express Channy Terps team? Is that the team you claim is going to be the "3rd or 4th" best? If your answer is YES than you really are OUT OF TOUCH to the talent pool on LI in 2017. the Terps 2017 jammed with talent.
.... jammed with dysfunction?
Dysfunction???? wow guess you really don't know do you. A good part of the new orange terp team have been practicing and training together since the end of July. Exact opposite of dysfunction, seems to be more chemistry building.
I think by "dysfunction" they're talking about the parents, they will eat eachother alive & destroy their kids while doing it. Its a game people, get your own life!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You been playing together? more like paying together, look around the next pradtice at least 5 of you will be replaced by the summer.
So true!!!!! Again, same story over & over & over, yet you believe it wont happen to yours. Good luck with that!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You been playing together? more like paying together, look around the next pradtice at least 5 of you will be replaced by the summer.
I'm sure kids get replaced all the time. At this age and grade I would believe kids need to step up. If my son is removed from a team it will because he does not deserve to be there as he isn't pulling his wait. One of the values I install in my child is not to take anything for granted and always improve your self not only in sports but in all of life. No one is telling you where to go, where to stay it's your choice. Look at the big picture and decide what's best for your child because HS is around the corner and there are kids that won't make varsity teams better they realize hard work now.
Then what are the 2016 Piranhas?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You been playing together? more like paying together, look around the next pradtice at least 5 of you will be replaced by the summer.
Whats wrong with paying?? Really, if your getting STRONG VALUE FOR YOUR MONEY (in regards to my son getting BETTER!!!) than what wrong with spending the money if I have it? And how in the [lacrosse] is it anyones business the way people CHOOSE to spend their money???? And if my son gets replace by Summer than its MY son's fault!! We teach our kids accountable in my family.
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You been playing together? more like paying together, look around the next pradtice at least 5 of you will be replaced by the summer.
I'm sure kids get replaced all the time. At this age and grade I would believe kids need to step up. If my son is removed from a team it will because he does not deserve to be there as he isn't pulling his wait. One of the values I install in my child is not to take anything for granted and always improve your self not only in sports but in all of life. No one is telling you where to go, where to stay it's your choice. Look at the big picture and decide what's best for your child because HS is around the corner and there are kids that won't make varsity teams better they realize hard work now.
I agree! Its usually the jealous & envious parents that unfortunately don't teach values and make excuse on behalf of their kids.
There is also a 2016 pirhanas. Where would they fit in?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Then what are the 2016 Piranhas?
It looks like all the Express teams from 2020 -2016 are under names now, it seems to be like this but not 100% sure.....
Orange - Terps
Blue - Piranhas
White - Wolverines
pirranahs - c team
terps - b
terps - b
Originally Posted by Anonymous
pirranahs - c team
terps - b
terps - b
Not for 2017......
Are Terps like baby Turtles???? Are they hoping to be big Turtles Hmmmm?
How many teams are there for the 2016s?
If you are not on the Barracudas it does not matter
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You been playing together? more like paying together, look around the next pradtice at least 5 of you will be replaced by the summer.
I'm sure kids get replaced all the time. At this age and grade I would believe kids need to step up. If my son is removed from a team it will because he does not deserve to be there as he isn't pulling his wait. One of the values I install in my child is not to take anything for granted and always improve your self not only in sports but in all of life. No one is telling you where to go, where to stay it's your choice. Look at the big picture and decide what's best for your child because HS is around the corner and there are kids that won't make varsity teams better they realize hard work now.
You're right, kids do get replaced all of the time but, not in mid-season! This has happened over & over in the past with this organization. we've been there, we've seen it & we have moved on. It was not done to my son, we were actually on the other end & felt it was underhanded and dishonest and walked away. Just dont believe you or child is any different, you are all replaceable in MC's eyes. & believe me, its not always about the values you teach your children (because we all try to do that) sometimes things are just wrong! Good luck to your son this season.
So for 2016 its barracudas-a piranhas-b wolverines-c ?
I have been hearing so many rumors this year. One big I heard yesterday is about the registration fee. Does anyone know the exact cost for the 2017 boys for this year?
So for 2016 its barracudas-a piranhas-b wolverines-c ?
Sounds right:
For 2016: A Barracudas, B Piranhas, C Wolverines, D Terps
Sounds right:
For 2016: A Barracudas, B Piranhas, C Wolverines, D Terps
Where are you getting this information?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So for 2016 its barracudas-a piranhas-b wolverines-c ?
Sounds right:
For 2016: A Barracudas, B Piranhas, C Wolverines, D Terps
Sounds right:
For 2016: A Barracudas, B Piranhas, C Wolverines, D Terps
Is this what MC confirmed?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are not on the Barracudas it does not matter
Written by an arrogant kid who comes from a dysfunctional family or by an ignoramus parent who shouldn't be parenting and clearly never played this great game. Sorry the rest of us have to cheer the same team as this buffoon.
That is the order: baraccudas, piranhas, wolverines, terps. The cost for all ages is a wopping $2,400!
Twerps, fish, amphibians, wolverines ...it all won't matter since the players are all interchangeable...tournaments teams will be very fluid this summer !!!!
True! and new kids will be joining your team through the summer!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is the order: baraccudas, piranhas, wolverines, terps. The cost for all ages is a wopping $2,400!
That's not what we were told. it's baracudas, terps, piranhas, wolverine. get your information straight. And of course , it matters.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The cost for all ages is a wopping $2,400!
Is that the cost per player regardless of the team or just certain teams?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The cost for all ages is a wopping $2,400!
Is that the cost per player regardless of the team or just certain teams?
Per player.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The cost for all ages is a wopping $2,400!
Is that the cost per player regardless of the team or just certain teams?
Per player, but it includes the cost of the fall season and fall tournaments, which for most of the clubs is an extra charge.
Charging a child $2400 to play on a travel lacrosse team is absolutely discusting!!! Where is the justification in charging this amount of money? Similar clubs charge 1/2 that price and get the same amount of tournaments and training! It's unbelievable how much $ people will make on children's backs. Just sad and a blow to the sport!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The cost for all ages is a wopping $2,400!
Is that the cost per player regardless of the team or just certain teams?
Per player, but it includes the cost of the fall season and fall tournaments, which for most of the clubs is an extra charge.
Please. Fall last year for Express, 3 tournaments and practices, was $300. So you can feel good that you are paying $2100 for Summer. Get ready for what you will be charged for winter and all the "training" you be "encouraged" to do at the Express Hub indoor facility in Syosset. At least your credit card will be upgraded with all the spending.
Sad really, if he asked $3400 some would still happily pay.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The cost for all ages is a wopping $2,400!
Is that the cost per player regardless of the team or just certain teams?
Per player, but it includes the cost of the fall season and fall tournaments, which for most of the clubs is an extra charge.
Thanks. That still a lot of $$$. Is the fall worth an extra $1,000? What does the fall include ?
one fall tournament cost $1400 dollars
24 X $1000 = $24,000
Coaches do not get paid
If he has 20 teams @$24,000 per team = $480,000 Gross
I would love to be MC
Its a graet buisness move
24 X $1000 = $24,000
Coaches do not get paid
If he has 20 teams @$24,000 per team = $480,000 Gross
I would love to be MC
Its a graet buisness move
Bravo
Well put, a blow to the sport
Well put, a blow to the sport
No one is staying on 2017 Piranhas,2.400 for a C team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The cost for all ages is a wopping $2,400!
Is that the cost per player regardless of the team or just certain teams?
Per player, but it includes the cost of the fall season and fall tournaments, which for most of the clubs is an extra charge.
Please. Fall last year for Express, 3 tournaments and practices, was $300. So you can feel good that you are paying $2100 for Summer. Get ready for what you will be charged for winter and all the "training" you be "encouraged" to do at the Express Hu
b indoor facility in Syosset. At least your credit card will be upgraded with all the spending. Actually our fall season was $450 last year. so fall and summer was $1950. it looks like they raised the price 20+% but I hear he is limiting the teams to 41 players for more playing time and instead of practicing outside in the beautiful fall weather, the teams will get to be in the fragrant filled unfinished hub.
Sad really, if he asked $3400 some would still happily pay.
Move on already !! is anyone forcing you to pay. Shut up and find another cause to rally behind
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No one is staying on 2017 Piranhas,2.400 for a C team.
People will stay, it still should be a decent team, although it is somewhat expensive
How funny this all is. That these parasites have so many of you parents thinking that if your kid doesn't pay 3 grand and play for the top express team he will never be good enough, or seen by college coaches.
What a waste of money, time, energy, and your kid's childhood. I played at the Div 1, level and have 3 sons that all went D I You don't need to do this. If your kid is a good athelete he'll make it without losing his youth to this nonsense
What a waste of money, time, energy, and your kid's childhood. I played at the Div 1, level and have 3 sons that all went D I You don't need to do this. If your kid is a good athelete he'll make it without losing his youth to this nonsense
Originally Posted by Anonymous
one fall tournament cost $1400 dollars
24 X $1000 = $24,000
Coaches do not get paid
If he has 20 teams @$24,000 per team = $480,000 Gross
I would love to be MC
Its a graet buisness move
24 X $1000 = $24,000
Coaches do not get paid
If he has 20 teams @$24,000 per team = $480,000 Gross
I would love to be MC
Its a graet buisness move
Time will tell if increasing the cost by 60% in a bad economy is a savy business move.
I was curious why express tryouts were later than most this year...I guess they couldn't .drop that $2400 bomb until most tryouts were done and kids had no other place to go.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
one fall tournament cost $1400 dollars
24 X $1000 = $24,000
Coaches do not get paid
If he has 20 teams @$24,000 per team = $480,000 Gross
I would love to be MC
Its a graet buisness move
24 X $1000 = $24,000
Coaches do not get paid
If he has 20 teams @$24,000 per team = $480,000 Gross
I would love to be MC
Its a graet buisness move
Time will tell if increasing the cost by 60% in a bad economy is a savy business move.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Move on already !! is anyone forcing you to pay. Shut up and find another cause to rally behind
Exactly. While everyone complains about what club is do what, Rome burns. I hope people are just as outraged November 6th!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How funny this all is. That these parasites have so many of you parents thinking that if your kid doesn't pay 3 grand and play for the top express team he will never be good enough, or seen by college coaches.
What a waste of money, time, energy, and your kid's childhood. I played at the Div 1, level and have 3 sons that all went D I You don't need to do this. If your kid is a good athelete he'll make it without losing his youth to this nonsense
What a waste of money, time, energy, and your kid's childhood. I played at the Div 1, level and have 3 sons that all went D I You don't need to do this. If your kid is a good athelete he'll make it without losing his youth to this nonsense
MUCH MORE competitive landscape than when you played D1 and prob your kids also! Unless you have a Freshman or Sophomore on that level. Different world now buddy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is the order: baraccudas, piranhas, wolverines, terps. The cost for all ages is a wopping $2,400!
That's not what we were told. it's baracudas, terps, piranhas, wolverine. get your information straight. And of course , it matters.
No Baracudas in 2018 or in the 2017. Terps "A'.
Your 3 top Middie'S all ready said no. Your best attack man going to true blue. I am trying to be nice because I know some kids on that team.If you want to pay $ 2,400 to get your [lacrosse] kick good luck.
Isn't Piranhas the B team, after the "chosen" Terps? The Wolverines are the C team.
Ok rich guy, lose your job and MC will cut your kid befose you type your resume. Ha Ha Express new logo " If you can pay you can play"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How funny this all is. That these parasites have so many of you parents thinking that if your kid doesn't pay 3 grand and play for the top express team he will never be good enough, or seen by college coaches.
What a waste of money, time, energy, and your kid's childhood. I played at the Div 1, level and have 3 sons that all went D I You don't need to do this. If your kid is a good athelete he'll make it without losing his youth to this nonsense
What a waste of money, time, energy, and your kid's childhood. I played at the Div 1, level and have 3 sons that all went D I You don't need to do this. If your kid is a good athelete he'll make it without losing his youth to this nonsense
So you have 3 kids in DI. They didn't play for a this club and you are sitting around commenting on message boards. You should get outside some.
why are so many payers leaving the Express? My son plays here and i think they do a good job! Do think the new tuition is steep, but this is where my son enjoys playing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Isn't Piranhas the B team, after the "chosen" Terps? The Wolverines are the C team.
Very frustrating not to be able to get any reliable information on 2016, with deposits due by Wednesday.
2020 teams....orange-terps...blue-wolverines....white-hammerheads
names for the 2020 teams? terps, hammerheads...?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
one fall tournament cost $1400 dollars
24 X $1000 = $24,000
Coaches do not get paid
If he has 20 teams @$24,000 per team = $480,000 Gross
I would love to be MC
Its a graet buisness move
24 X $1000 = $24,000
Coaches do not get paid
If he has 20 teams @$24,000 per team = $480,000 Gross
I would love to be MC
Its a graet buisness move
Time will tell if increasing the cost by 60% in a bad economy is a savy business move.
Then this should be layed out more precicely. A lot of people are throwing around 60%.
The "terps". you gotta love this stuff..A terrapin is a turtle living in fresh or brackish water..JD must love that, cant wait to see the uniforms..all turtle like etc..MC cant wait to crush those guys..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How funny this all is. That these parasites have so many of you parents thinking that if your kid doesn't pay 3 grand and play for the top express team he will never be good enough, or seen by college coaches.
What a waste of money, time, energy, and your kid's childhood. I played at the Div 1, level and have 3 sons that all went D I You don't need to do this. If your kid is a good athelete he'll make it without losing his youth to this nonsense
What a waste of money, time, energy, and your kid's childhood. I played at the Div 1, level and have 3 sons that all went D I You don't need to do this. If your kid is a good athelete he'll make it without losing his youth to this nonsense
MUCH MORE competitive landscape than when you played D1 and prob your kids also! Unless you have a Freshman or Sophomore on that level. Different world now buddy.
It may be a different world in some respects but some things never change - the importance of being ACADEMICALLY up to the challenge. So many parents and kids who do not have older siblings that have already gone through the experience of playing lacrosse completely under estimate the challenge of balancing the demands of the sport (D1 or D3) with a demanding curriculum. Whatever you do as parents, don't try to force your kid into the best school possible just because he can handle a lacrosse stick - UNLESS they are willing to drop lacrosse if the grades don't come through (assuming they are still enrolled). Trust me, you'll regret it more than anything else you've done for your kid and you'll likely be dealing with the headaches of commitment releases, athletic eligibility, transfering credits etc. after the first year, if not the first semester. Be honest with yourselves about your kid's work ethic in the classroom - you know your kid best. Are they a student that plays lacrosse or a just a "lax dude" who happens to play at a college?
Great advice !! Nice to see an intelligent point made without bashing another.
THANK YOU !!
THANK YOU !!
clearly the order varies per year. 2016 is Baraccudas, piranhas etc...
$2400 is absurd. I guess with 5 partners you have to charge more.
Thanks for the definition of Terps. Is it a really big Turtle or an itty-bitty Turtle I have in my fish tank. Why are they not called the "Snappers"....
ok is that the consensus now for 2016? Cudas Piranhas Wolverines?
Terp is also what MC's son is in relation to the university he plays for.
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Terp is also what MC's son is in relation to the university he plays for.
Sons
Barracuda
Terps
Pirannah
Wolverines
Confirmed
Terps
Pirannah
Wolverines
Confirmed
Terps are b
cudas, terps, piranahs, wolverines
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "terps". you gotta love this stuff..A terrapin is a turtle living in fresh or brackish water..JD must love that, cant wait to see the uniforms..all turtle like etc..MC cant wait to crush those guys..
Ok lets all relax, long way to go before anyone is crushing the Turtles. Im not a turtle parent and I have no stake either way, but they are still the best team in the age group and the only team thats even close in talent is 91 Orange. MC can hope all he wants, but its just not a reality.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Isn't Piranhas the B team, after the "chosen" Terps? The Wolverines are the C team.
Actually if you get technical they are the C team, if you consider the Turtles the A team. What i dont get is why anyone would pay that much money to be on anyones B or C team. There are plenty of good organizations out there that have good "B" teams that dont charge a small fortune and actually might give a crap about your kid. Run for your life and find another place for your kid to play......
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Barracuda
Terps
Pirannah
Wolverines
Confirmed
Terps
Pirannah
Wolverines
Confirmed
For 2016? is anyone sure terps are a 2016 team?
Terps are a 2016 team
Kid who always played B or C for Express and was just recruited. I think that is why. What about a kid who was C worked his butt off and was selected for a better team? Work hard Play hard Pays off
3 teams this year (2013) for 2020 group blue team very succesful last year only lost 2 games overall alot of talent in that group
why are so many kids leaving the express? saw a bunch of express kids trying out at true blue???
Is 2016 terps the "b" team
check out when their birth dates, most were born in 98 and where they play is against 99 birthdays.
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why are so many kids leaving the express? saw a bunch of express kids trying out at true blue???
they didn't make the "A" teams they move on. Thats what the story is now on the long island club lacrosse scene.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
why are so many kids leaving the express? saw a bunch of express kids trying out at true blue???
they didn't make the "A" teams they move on. Thats what the story is now on the long island club lacrosse scene.
Do you blame them? Whos gonna pay 2400 to be on a B team.
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Is 2016 terps the "b" team
Yes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
why are so many kids leaving the express? saw a bunch of express kids trying out at true blue???
they didn't make the "A" teams they move on. Thats what the story is now on the long island club lacrosse scene.
Do you blame them? Whos gonna pay 2400 to be on a B team.
Approximately 50 families per grade from St. Anthony's and Chaminade would (~ 25 kids for each B and C team). There are hardly any other kids from public schools on those B & C teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$2400 is absurd. I guess with 5 partners you have to charge more.
Some cuda parents who helped assemble the team last year not paying full ride? Hmmm.
That is the rumor. Discounts for certain people.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is the rumor. Discounts for certain people.
Not just discount..free!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is the rumor. Discounts for certain people.
Not just discount..free!
So not only are some of you bitter people going to tell parents where & how much to spend on for their kids lacrosse club team, not only are some of you expecting these clubs to charge peanuts BUT now if they don't charge a person than your going to cry about that also? Jeez, MIND YOUR BUSINESS. Holy crap the nerve.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is the rumor. Discounts for certain people.
Not just discount..free!
So not only are some of you bitter people going to tell parents where & how much to spend on for their kids lacrosse club team, not only are some of you expecting these clubs to charge peanuts BUT now if they don't charge a person than your going to cry about that also? Jeez, MIND YOUR BUSINESS. Holy crap the nerve.
Why should people be ok with paying full freight when others are not? how is that ok and not everybody's business?
The person who brought the cudas to the Express is no longer there. They have moved on according to the rumor mill.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is the rumor. Discounts for certain people.
Not just discount..free!
So not only are some of you bitter people going to tell parents where & how much to spend on for their kids lacrosse club team, not only are some of you expecting these clubs to charge peanuts BUT now if they don't charge a person than your going to cry about that also? Jeez, MIND YOUR BUSINESS. Holy crap the nerve.
Why should people be ok with paying full freight when others are not? how is that ok and not everybody's business?
Maybe you don't know those two parties business relationship! Therefore, you are assuming know their business deal. You don't, and furthermore you come off as envious, bitter AND not fully informed. Hearsay is a rotten thing because its empty.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is the rumor. Discounts for certain people.
Not just discount..free!
So not only are some of you bitter people going to tell parents where & how much to spend on for their kids lacrosse club team, not only are some of you expecting these clubs to charge peanuts BUT now if they don't charge a person than your going to cry about that also? Jeez, MIND YOUR BUSINESS. Holy crap the nerve.
Why should people be ok with paying full freight when others are not? how is that ok and not everybody's business?
Team 91 does it also. Its these owners BUSINESS to do what ever the [lacrosse] they want- WAKE UP!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is the rumor. Discounts for certain people.
Not just discount..free!
So not only are some of you bitter people going to tell parents where & how much to spend on for their kids lacrosse club team, not only are some of you expecting these clubs to charge peanuts BUT now if they don't charge a person than your going to cry about that also? Jeez, MIND YOUR BUSINESS. Holy crap the nerve.
Why should people be ok with paying full freight when others are not? how is that ok and not everybody's business?
Team 91 does it also. Its these owners BUSINESS to do what ever the [lacrosse] they want- WAKE UP!!!!!!
true
you don't think the owners pump up the price for everyone else to cover the cost of a few freebies?
Regardless of where people stand on this issue, the Express is going to have a very hard time dealing with these pricing allegations.
I suppose I always thought some clubs gave certain people a price break, which may be warranted in some cases (economic hardship etc.). However, the reality is that the people paying full freight are SUBSIDIZING the spots being filled by those not paying full cost. That might be nothing more than a business decision by the Express, but it doesn't change the economic reality -- a subsidy is a subsidy.
The question then becomes, do those expected to pay full price want to do so? Is it worth it to pay a subsidy to have a stronger squad?
This parent thinks not. I'd rather pay less, and have my son get more playing time, and not win every tournament, than pay more to watch some other 11-year old supposed superstar hog the ball (and still not win every tournament).
But opinions vary!
I suppose I always thought some clubs gave certain people a price break, which may be warranted in some cases (economic hardship etc.). However, the reality is that the people paying full freight are SUBSIDIZING the spots being filled by those not paying full cost. That might be nothing more than a business decision by the Express, but it doesn't change the economic reality -- a subsidy is a subsidy.
The question then becomes, do those expected to pay full price want to do so? Is it worth it to pay a subsidy to have a stronger squad?
This parent thinks not. I'd rather pay less, and have my son get more playing time, and not win every tournament, than pay more to watch some other 11-year old supposed superstar hog the ball (and still not win every tournament).
But opinions vary!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
you don't think the owners pump up the price for everyone else to cover the cost of a few freebies?
An the guy who owns the diner in town gives free desert for neighbors and free coffee to his brother-in-law, it's his business and he can do what he wants - Express is $2,400 - join or don't join, your call. Would you be happier if they charged $2,400 and kept all the money or if they charged $2,400 and helped some people that need it and also (allegedly) try to improve teams by offering tuition incentives to get talented players to join. Thank goodness colleges don't try to pull a stunt like that.
It is what the market will bear. $2400 is now the high water mark. If Express loses marketshare by not being able to recruit new "A" players combined with "B" and "C" players not seeing the value, they will hurt thier brand. You will see a season where the product on the field is less competitive and being beat by other LI Clubs that have recuited potential "A" express players. A summer tournament season of 2-3 may have the Express faithful scatching thier heads looking for options for the 2014 season. this may be a tipping point for Express. $2400 may secure the more affluent players but not the best players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is what the market will bear. $2400 is now the high water mark. If Express loses marketshare by not being able to recruit new "A" players combined with "B" and "C" players not seeing the value, they will hurt thier brand. You will see a season where the product on the field is less competitive and being beat by other LI Clubs that have recuited potential "A" express players. A summer tournament season of 2-3 may have the Express faithful scatching thier heads looking for options for the 2014 season. this may be a tipping point for Express. $2400 may secure the more affluent players but not the best players.
An excellent point. You hit the nail right on the head.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is what the market will bear. $2400 is now the high water mark. If Express loses marketshare by not being able to recruit new "A" players combined with "B" and "C" players not seeing the value, they will hurt thier brand. You will see a season where the product on the field is less competitive and being beat by other LI Clubs that have recuited potential "A" express players. A summer tournament season of 2-3 may have the Express faithful scatching thier heads looking for options for the 2014 season. this may be a tipping point for Express. $2400 may secure the more affluent players but not the best players.
TBest post Ive seen in a while. Nice job!
Looks like team long island and 91 are going to have an overload next tryout season...Not to late to goto Dune Dawgs either........Unless they are doing year round playtime for that price which includes fallball , winter leagues , spring oyster bay.. All inclusive like Team Igloo does.. It was a good run for this program BUT as usual all good things come to an end !
Wouldnt doubt it if certain coaches are already reaching out to neighboring clubs.
An excellent point. You hit the nail right on the head.
Wouldnt doubt it if certain coaches are already reaching out to neighboring clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is what the market will bear. $2400 is now the high water mark. If Express loses marketshare by not being able to recruit new "A" players combined with "B" and "C" players not seeing the value, they will hurt thier brand. You will see a season where the product on the field is less competitive and being beat by other LI Clubs that have recuited potential "A" express players. A summer tournament season of 2-3 may have the Express faithful scatching thier heads looking for options for the 2014 season. this may be a tipping point for Express. $2400 may secure the more affluent players but not the best players.
An excellent point. You hit the nail right on the head.
Are the discounts only given to A team players?
If so, that means the B and C team parents are paying the costs for those A team players ... and not getting the benefit of having that player on the squad.
You can kind of understand if the discounted kid is on your team, but come on now. Can we get any further away from "amateur" athletics? What's next? Are W-2s going to be issued to the A team kids?
If so, that means the B and C team parents are paying the costs for those A team players ... and not getting the benefit of having that player on the squad.
You can kind of understand if the discounted kid is on your team, but come on now. Can we get any further away from "amateur" athletics? What's next? Are W-2s going to be issued to the A team kids?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are the discounts only given to A team players?
If so, that means the B and C team parents are paying the costs for those A team players ... and not getting the benefit of having that player on the squad.
You can kind of understand if the discounted kid is on your team, but come on now. Can we get any further away from "amateur" athletics? What's next? Are W-2s going to be issued to the A team kids?
If so, that means the B and C team parents are paying the costs for those A team players ... and not getting the benefit of having that player on the squad.
You can kind of understand if the discounted kid is on your team, but come on now. Can we get any further away from "amateur" athletics? What's next? Are W-2s going to be issued to the A team kids?
Am I on a lacrosse message board or CNN Financial Center's site?
In professional sports the BEST players - Free Agent get the BIGGEST contracts. In our situation, the BEST most desired player is getting the BIGGEST discount. It is basically the same difference. Being the best at your craft has benefits, whether a hugh contract or a perk to play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In professional sports the BEST players - Free Agent get the BIGGEST contracts. In our situation, the BEST most desired player is getting the BIGGEST discount. It is basically the same difference. Being the best at your craft has benefits, whether a hugh contract or a perk to play.
Here in youth sports and particularly lacrosse, if your "B" and "C" players disappear from an organization following a discounting practice exclusively targeting the "A" players, explain how the ARITHMETIC (to quote Bill Clinton) actually works.
Problem with your model is that it simply does not work across an entire club when you only award top players. The model just has to be need based (as with many colleges now) when awarding financial aid.
Now, having run many teams in youth sports, my methodology was always to take the total needed to operate the team and divide that among X-2 players (assuming that there were X players on the team). Our experience was that there were always two (on average) parents in this economy who might have been short and we would be able to carry the cost without embarrassing the parent or player. In fact, this information was carefully guarded even when we disclosed the annual budget to parents.
What does this mean in real cash? An annual fee per player of $2000.00 with 20 players would have an annual budget for the team at $40,000.00. Here, we would charge each parent $2200.00 ($40,000.00 divided by 18 payers) in order to make up for any team shortfall. If we were fully funded by all parents, we would take the excess ($200.00 x 20 payments) and use the money for an extra team tournament, meal expenses at the extra event, and additional training.
I guess colleges should give everyone equal scholarship money or better yet no money to anyone. we live in a meritocracy fyi..
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I guess colleges should give everyone equal scholarship money or better yet no money to anyone. we live in a meritocracy fyi..
Often times, athletic and academic scholarships are endowed which is not the case for financial aid.
Our BOTC position is that parents should seriously question a program at the youth level which is providing scholarships to players for any reason other than financial hardship.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
you don't think the owners pump up the price for everyone else to cover the cost of a few freebies?
An the guy who owns the diner in town gives free desert for neighbors and free coffee to his brother-in-law, it's his business and he can do what he wants - Express is $2,400 - join or don't join, your call. Would you be happier if they charged $2,400 and kept all the money or if they charged $2,400 and helped some people that need it and also (allegedly) try to improve teams by offering tuition incentives to get talented players to join. Thank goodness colleges don't try to pull a stunt like that.
You are current, it is noones business what an owner does with how they run their business. But once an issue or rumor arises they need to address the issue.
If said diner owner gives free desert to one but not all, once that gets around everyone will want the free desert and if they dont get their share or worse yet will have to pay more for their desert, they will look elsewhere.
Wouldnt you.
Chocalate pudding please!!!
are these lacrosse decisions with financial ramifications or financial decisions with lacrosse ramifications? it is a business and as consumers we all have choices and thankfully lots of options.people need to stop worrying about this business and worry about their own kid and their own finances and make the best choices with both in mind.
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are these lacrosse decisions with financial ramifications or financial decisions with lacrosse ramifications?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
it is a business and as consumers we all have choices and thankfully lots of options.people need to stop worrying about this business and worry about their own kid and their own finances and make the best choices with both in mind.
For example, a program at $2000.00 per year might provide huge value-for-money over a program priced at $1000.00 per year both in terms of included elements but also "fit" for the student-athlete and family.
Ultimately, value-for-money is a personal decision that is not based on the price alone which is why BOTC continues to provide as many options to our readers as possible. Every program we bring forward offers a different slant and therefore different audiences will take part (despite it all being tied to lacrosse).
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess colleges should give everyone equal scholarship money or better yet no money to anyone. we live in a meritocracy fyi..
Often times, athletic and academic scholarships are endowed which is not the case for financial aid.
Our BOTC position is that parents should seriously question a program at the youth level which is providing scholarships to players for any reason other than financial hardship.
The problem is that nobody except the directors will ever know if somebody is getting a free ride for performance or for need. They can always disguise an incentive as need based.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess colleges should give everyone equal scholarship money or better yet no money to anyone. we live in a meritocracy fyi..
Often times, athletic and academic scholarships are endowed which is not the case for financial aid.
Our BOTC position is that parents should seriously question a program at the youth level which is providing scholarships to players for any reason other than financial hardship.
The problem is that nobody except the directors will ever know if somebody is getting a free ride for performance or for need. They can always disguise an incentive as need based.
Ultimately, the family of the player needs to decide whether the quoted price is providing value-for-money. If you believe that scholarships made available to players is the wrong approach for reasons other than financial aid, that would erode the value-for-money proposition - or might even be a deal-breaker.
Before going down this theoretical path any further, there is a simpler way to make your decision. Add up the costs of the tournaments, training sessions, and all other elements in the program. Divide this by the number of expected players on the team sharing the load. You can then decide for yourself whether a program is properly priced or not. Based on the pricing, you can then overlay your own value assessment.
While you would not expect General Motors to divulge the cost of every component in their cars, you can take an educated guess on the mark-up. So too, you can do the same in lacrosse - this just requires some extra legwork for those passionate to get to an answer.
I agree but the bottom line is to WIN. WIN and Elite players will run to you. LOSE and they go elsewhere. WINNING is exposure. WINNING brings fees. Elite kids choose who they will play for. Obtain them at any cost
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I agree but the bottom line is to WIN. WIN and Elite players will run to you. LOSE and they go elsewhere. WINNING is exposure. WINNING brings fees. Elite kids choose who they will play for. Obtain them at any cost
I agree 100% - it is what it is, people want to play for a winner and a few free tuition kids that brings a winner will pay for it self going forward, good business
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree but the bottom line is to WIN. WIN and Elite players will run to you. LOSE and they go elsewhere. WINNING is exposure. WINNING brings fees. Elite kids choose who they will play for. Obtain them at any cost
I agree 100% - it is what it is, people want to play for a winner and a few free tuition kids that brings a winner will pay for it self going forward, good business
Someday the parents of the troglites buried beneath the surface on the B and C teams will decide to no longer carry the burden of the chosen ones in the sun on the A teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree but the bottom line is to WIN. WIN and Elite players will run to you. LOSE and they go elsewhere. WINNING is exposure. WINNING brings fees. Elite kids choose who they will play for. Obtain them at any cost
I agree 100% - it is what it is, people want to play for a winner and a few free tuition kids that brings a winner will pay for it self going forward, good business
Someday the parents of the troglites buried beneath the surface on the B and C teams will decide to no longer carry the burden of the chosen ones in the sun on the A teams.
So, I struggle with what the end game is of the B and C negativity. The common theme seems to be that if your kid isn't chosen to play on the "A" team, then they shouldn't play for the Express at all. Is this to suggest that they would be "A" material on another team? If so, is that team really an "A" team? I would venture that the same kids wouldn't make the "A" team for other quality programs either.
As for the current cost structure, Express is just the price leader here. Others will be there shortly. In fact, they may already be if you tack on cost for the fall program, a helmet (supposedly, Express is including a helmet this year, but who knows for sure) and assorted other a la carte items.
The bottom line is that good is good and the best will always have opportunity. That's true in life and not just in lacrosse. The "B" or "C" kid should dig deeper and work harder, if their goal is truly to make the "A" team. That's a life lesson and that is what parents should be teaching. Instead, the common thread seems to be that a fraud is being committed and nirvana can be found elsewhere. The lesson of casting blame instead of hard work. Guarantee that most parents think their kid is better than they really are.
I'm sure there are some bad apples or poorly handled incidents, but many of the 93 pages dedicated to this thread deal with "if it's not "A" it's not worth it. That's just the wrong general attitude.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree but the bottom line is to WIN. WIN and Elite players will run to you. LOSE and they go elsewhere. WINNING is exposure. WINNING brings fees. Elite kids choose who they will play for. Obtain them at any cost
I agree 100% - it is what it is, people want to play for a winner and a few free tuition kids that brings a winner will pay for it self going forward, good business
Someday the parents of the troglites buried beneath the surface on the B and C teams will decide to no longer carry the burden of the chosen ones in the sun on the A teams.
So, I struggle with what the end game is of the B and C negativity. The common theme seems to be that if your kid isn't chosen to play on the "A" team, then they shouldn't play for the Express at all. Is this to suggest that they would be "A" material on another team? If so, is that team really an "A" team? I would venture that the same kids wouldn't make the "A" team for other quality programs either.
As for the current cost structure, Express is just the price leader here. Others will be there shortly. In fact, they may already be if you tack on cost for the fall program, a helmet (supposedly, Express is including a helmet this year, but who knows for sure) and assorted other a la carte items.
The bottom line is that good is good and the best will always have opportunity. That's true in life and not just in lacrosse. The "B" or "C" kid should dig deeper and work harder, if their goal is truly to make the "A" team. That's a life lesson and that is what parents should be teaching. Instead, the common thread seems to be that a fraud is being committed and nirvana can be found elsewhere. The lesson of casting blame instead of hard work. Guarantee that most parents think their kid is better than they really are.
I'm sure there are some bad apples or poorly handled incidents, but many of the 93 pages dedicated to this thread deal with "if it's not "A" it's not worth it. That's just the wrong general attitude.
You have a well thought out opinion, thanks for sharing it. I agree, you are struggling, and apparently don't get it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree but the bottom line is to WIN. WIN and Elite players will run to you. LOSE and they go elsewhere. WINNING is exposure. WINNING brings fees. Elite kids choose who they will play for. Obtain them at any cost
I agree 100% - it is what it is, people want to play for a winner and a few free tuition kids that brings a winner will pay for it self going forward, good business
Someday the parents of the troglites buried beneath the surface on the B and C teams will decide to no longer carry the burden of the chosen ones in the sun on the A teams.
So, I struggle with what the end game is of the B and C negativity. The common theme seems to be that if your kid isn't chosen to play on the "A" team, then they shouldn't play for the Express at all. Is this to suggest that they would be "A" material on another team? If so, is that team really an "A" team? I would venture that the same kids wouldn't make the "A" team for other quality programs either.
As for the current cost structure, Express is just the price leader here. Others will be there shortly. In fact, they may already be if you tack on cost for the fall program, a helmet (supposedly, Express is including a helmet this year, but who knows for sure) and assorted other a la carte items.
The bottom line is that good is good and the best will always have opportunity. That's true in life and not just in lacrosse. The "B" or "C" kid should dig deeper and work harder, if their goal is truly to make the "A" team. That's a life lesson and that is what parents should be teaching. Instead, the common thread seems to be that a fraud is being committed and nirvana can be found elsewhere. The lesson of casting blame instead of hard work. Guarantee that most parents think their kid is better than they really are.
I'm sure there are some bad apples or poorly handled incidents, but many of the 93 pages dedicated to this thread deal with "if it's not "A" it's not worth it. That's just the wrong general attitude.
Not accurate. At least 2 kids did not even make the Express B team this past summer but somehow made a dynamite fl$ 2015 "A" team that was competitve on a national basis. They both had great summers for fl$ and had a great experience. Just becuase you don't make the Express "A" doesnt't mean your not an "A" player. Hmmm.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree but the bottom line is to WIN. WIN and Elite players will run to you. LOSE and they go elsewhere. WINNING is exposure. WINNING brings fees. Elite kids choose who they will play for. Obtain them at any cost
I agree 100% - it is what it is, people want to play for a winner and a few free tuition kids that brings a winner will pay for it self going forward, good business
Someday the parents of the troglites buried beneath the surface on the B and C teams will decide to no longer carry the burden of the chosen ones in the sun on the A teams.
So, I struggle with what the end game is of the B and C negativity. The common theme seems to be that if your kid isn't chosen to play on the "A" team, then they shouldn't play for the Express at all. Is this to suggest that they would be "A" material on another team? If so, is that team really an "A" team? I would venture that the same kids wouldn't make the "A" team for other quality programs either.
As for the current cost structure, Express is just the price leader here. Others will be there shortly. In fact, they may already be if you tack on cost for the fall program, a helmet (supposedly, Express is including a helmet this year, but who knows for sure) and assorted other a la carte items.
The bottom line is that good is good and the best will always have opportunity. That's true in life and not just in lacrosse. The "B" or "C" kid should dig deeper and work harder, if their goal is truly to make the "A" team. That's a life lesson and that is what parents should be teaching. Instead, the common thread seems to be that a fraud is being committed and nirvana can be found elsewhere. The lesson of casting blame instead of hard work. Guarantee that most parents think their kid is better than they really are.
I'm sure there are some bad apples or poorly handled incidents, but many of the 93 pages dedicated to this thread deal with "if it's not "A" it's not worth it. That's just the wrong general attitude.
Walk a season in the cleats of a B or C team player - poor organization comminication, sporadic practices, half the team can't catch or throw. It's just bad and should not be the same price as an "A" team experience.
If you make and play for an Express or Team 91 "B" or a "C" team---the players who are mediocre feel like they hit the lottery because they're now playing for the Express or Team 91---in reality the training they receive is far inferior to the vaunted "A" team. You're lucky if little Johnny gets two coaches at all practices when most teams including the "A" teams get 3 or 4. Typically one coach will train 25 players on an Express B or C team. Every week the gate opens and players leave and new players are added as each spot on the team is a $1,400+ to the bottom line proposition. At the end of the summer the parents and players wake up and realize they were just duped and now they're out the ridiculous tryout fees (which is a moneymaking scam)+$1,400 plus the additional training dollars charged by channen"check" and the others. On top of that you'll pay to have little Johnny play in the channen"check" tournaments ($75 each x 25 kids) and the Oyster Bay Lacrosse League ($225 x 25 kids)---with each one come the standard channen"check" fees. This is A MONEY MAKING ENTERPRISE looking out for the bottom line, not the KIDS. Nothing more, nothing less. Wake up people and realize----if your son or daughter doesn't make the Express "A" team you may as well play for another decent team who will provide solid coaching and opportunity for little Johnny to actually learn and lay the game of lacrosse. When people start doing that the Express and Team 91 will no longer be able to operate in their monopolistic, money before everything else while we "sell the kids and the parents their dreams" manner.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree but the bottom line is to WIN. WIN and Elite players will run to you. LOSE and they go elsewhere. WINNING is exposure. WINNING brings fees. Elite kids choose who they will play for. Obtain them at any cost
I agree 100% - it is what it is, people want to play for a winner and a few free tuition kids that brings a winner will pay for it self going forward, good business
Someday the parents of the troglites buried beneath the surface on the B and C teams will decide to no longer carry the burden of the chosen ones in the sun on the A teams.
So, I struggle with what the end game is of the B and C negativity. The common theme seems to be that if your kid isn't chosen to play on the "A" team, then they shouldn't play for the Express at all. Is this to suggest that they would be "A" material on another team? If so, is that team really an "A" team? I would venture that the same kids wouldn't make the "A" team for other quality programs either.
As for the current cost structure, Express is just the price leader here. Others will be there shortly. In fact, they may already be if you tack on cost for the fall program, a helmet (supposedly, Express is including a helmet this year, but who knows for sure) and assorted other a la carte items.
The bottom line is that good is good and the best will always have opportunity. That's true in life and not just in lacrosse. The "B" or "C" kid should dig deeper and work harder, if their goal is truly to make the "A" team. That's a life lesson and that is what parents should be teaching. Instead, the common thread seems to be that a fraud is being committed and nirvana can be found elsewhere. The lesson of casting blame instead of hard work. Guarantee that most parents think their kid is better than they really are.
I'm sure there are some bad apples or poorly handled incidents, but many of the 93 pages dedicated to this thread deal with "if it's not "A" it's not worth it. That's just the wrong general attitude.
You have a well thought out opinion, thanks for sharing it. I agree, you are struggling, and apparently don't get it.
What is it that they "don't get"? If you think the cost is too high you can choose not to play for this program.
The annual cost to play for my Town Program is more than $1,500 and that does not include the camp/clinic run by HS assistant coach that the kids are encouraged to attend.
All this nonsense will be done and gone in less than 5 years, when every HS coach on the island has a summer/town program. West Islip and Ward Melville do it, and Garden City just got into the summer lax business in a big way. All those programs have already drawn players off the big club teams.
Not all towns do it, and not all the best players have jumped ship yet. But it is inevitable ... the school coaches will want to get on the summer fee bandwagon (call it a bonus), the boys will want to play with their friends, and the parents will want the boys to get exposure to the middle school and high school coaches that they will eventually (hopefully) play for. And the bottom line -- it's less expensive.
In the meantime, if you want to pay premium dollars for someone else's kid to get an A team experience at one of the "elite" clubs, it's your money.
Not all towns do it, and not all the best players have jumped ship yet. But it is inevitable ... the school coaches will want to get on the summer fee bandwagon (call it a bonus), the boys will want to play with their friends, and the parents will want the boys to get exposure to the middle school and high school coaches that they will eventually (hopefully) play for. And the bottom line -- it's less expensive.
In the meantime, if you want to pay premium dollars for someone else's kid to get an A team experience at one of the "elite" clubs, it's your money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree but the bottom line is to WIN. WIN and Elite players will run to you. LOSE and they go elsewhere. WINNING is exposure. WINNING brings fees. Elite kids choose who they will play for. Obtain them at any cost
I agree 100% - it is what it is, people want to play for a winner and a few free tuition kids that brings a winner will pay for it self going forward, good business
Someday the parents of the troglites buried beneath the surface on the B and C teams will decide to no longer carry the burden of the chosen ones in the sun on the A teams.
So, I struggle with what the end game is of the B and C negativity. The common theme seems to be that if your kid isn't chosen to play on the "A" team, then they shouldn't play for the Express at all. Is this to suggest that they would be "A" material on another team? If so, is that team really an "A" team? I would venture that the same kids wouldn't make the "A" team for other quality programs either.
As for the current cost structure, Express is just the price leader here. Others will be there shortly. In fact, they may already be if you tack on cost for the fall program, a helmet (supposedly, Express is including a helmet this year, but who knows for sure) and assorted other a la carte items.
The bottom line is that good is good and the best will always have opportunity. That's true in life and not just in lacrosse. The "B" or "C" kid should dig deeper and work harder, if their goal is truly to make the "A" team. That's a life lesson and that is what parents should be teaching. Instead, the common thread seems to be that a fraud is being committed and nirvana can be found elsewhere. The lesson of casting blame instead of hard work. Guarantee that most parents think their kid is better than they really are.
I'm sure there are some bad apples or poorly handled incidents, but many of the 93 pages dedicated to this thread deal with "if it's not "A" it's not worth it. That's just the wrong general attitude.
You have a well thought out opinion, thanks for sharing it. I agree, you are struggling, and apparently don't get it.
What is it that they "don't get"? If you think the cost is too high you can choose not to play for this program.
The annual cost to play for my Town Program is more than $1,500 and that does not include the camp/clinic run by HS assistant coach that the kids are encouraged to attend.
What town is that?
Originally Posted by ProtonPower
All this nonsense will be done and gone in less than 5 years, when every HS coach on the island has a summer/town program. West Islip and Ward Melville do it, and Garden City just got into the summer lax business in a big way. All those programs have already drawn players off the big club teams.
Not all towns do it, and not all the best players have jumped ship yet. But it is inevitable ... the school coaches will want to get on the summer fee bandwagon (call it a bonus), the boys will want to play with their friends, and the parents will want the boys to get exposure to the middle school and high school coaches that they will eventually (hopefully) play for. And the bottom line -- it's less expensive.
In the meantime, if you want to pay premium dollars for someone else's kid to get an A team experience at one of the "elite" clubs, it's your money.
Not all towns do it, and not all the best players have jumped ship yet. But it is inevitable ... the school coaches will want to get on the summer fee bandwagon (call it a bonus), the boys will want to play with their friends, and the parents will want the boys to get exposure to the middle school and high school coaches that they will eventually (hopefully) play for. And the bottom line -- it's less expensive.
In the meantime, if you want to pay premium dollars for someone else's kid to get an A team experience at one of the "elite" clubs, it's your money.
I beleive many parents and players go into a try out hoping to make a certain team, if they do not make that team they already have a plan "B" outlined.
I do not agree if you are not an express or 91 "A" player that you are not an "A" player. I also agree that as some teams call themselves "A" they are "B" at best. I also have no problem (as should none of you) what a parent or player chooses to do if the player does not make their first priority. For some money is a serious consideration for others it is principle.
I do feel the elites clubs are setting themselves up for failure with these prices. How can some other organizations go to the same tournaments for less than half the price. The tournament fees are public (what isnt is the discounts these teams are getting. I am sure they are getting a significant discount). Note i didnt say win these tournamanets just go to them.
Now about the teams headed the town route, personally I wish this happened (but only starting at 7th grade), but what about those boys in towns where they do not have a strong programs. they are left at a disadvantage.
But what I dont understand is to say West Islip, Garden City and Ward Melville are doing this you may not have been at tryouts this season. The fields where filled with those helmets.
Originally Posted by ProtonPower
All this nonsense will be done and gone in less than 5 years, when every HS coach on the island has a summer/town program. West Islip and Ward Melville do it, and Garden City just got into the summer lax business in a big way. All those programs have already drawn players off the big club teams.
Not all towns do it, and not all the best players have jumped ship yet. But it is inevitable ... the school coaches will want to get on the summer fee bandwagon (call it a bonus), the boys will want to play with their friends, and the parents will want the boys to get exposure to the middle school and high school coaches that they will eventually (hopefully) play for. And the bottom line -- it's less expensive.
In the meantime, if you want to pay premium dollars for someone else's kid to get an A team experience at one of the "elite" clubs, it's your money.
Not all towns do it, and not all the best players have jumped ship yet. But it is inevitable ... the school coaches will want to get on the summer fee bandwagon (call it a bonus), the boys will want to play with their friends, and the parents will want the boys to get exposure to the middle school and high school coaches that they will eventually (hopefully) play for. And the bottom line -- it's less expensive.
In the meantime, if you want to pay premium dollars for someone else's kid to get an A team experience at one of the "elite" clubs, it's your money.
And this is a MAJOR conflict of interest for these HS coaches. It has been discussed in other threads here. These aren't "club" teams with players from all over, these are town teams with parents feeling the "leverage" of having the HS coach run the program and feel "obligated" to play or risk retribution.
There are already too many political angles in these lax towns and to add in the HS coach now running the summer program I think is unethical.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree but the bottom line is to WIN. WIN and Elite players will run to you. LOSE and they go elsewhere. WINNING is exposure. WINNING brings fees. Elite kids choose who they will play for. Obtain them at any cost
I agree 100% - it is what it is, people want to play for a winner and a few free tuition kids that brings a winner will pay for it self going forward, good business
Someday the parents of the troglites buried beneath the surface on the B and C teams will decide to no longer carry the burden of the chosen ones in the sun on the A teams.
So, I struggle with what the end game is of the B and C negativity. The common theme seems to be that if your kid isn't chosen to play on the "A" team, then they shouldn't play for the Express at all. Is this to suggest that they would be "A" material on another team? If so, is that team really an "A" team? I would venture that the same kids wouldn't make the "A" team for other quality programs either.
As for the current cost structure, Express is just the price leader here. Others will be there shortly. In fact, they may already be if you tack on cost for the fall program, a helmet (supposedly, Express is including a helmet this year, but who knows for sure) and assorted other a la carte items.
The bottom line is that good is good and the best will always have opportunity. That's true in life and not just in lacrosse. The "B" or "C" kid should dig deeper and work harder, if their goal is truly to make the "A" team. That's a life lesson and that is what parents should be teaching. Instead, the common thread seems to be that a fraud is being committed and nirvana can be found elsewhere. The lesson of casting blame instead of hard work. Guarantee that most parents think their kid is better than they really are.
I'm sure there are some bad apples or poorly handled incidents, but many of the 93 pages dedicated to this thread deal with "if it's not "A" it's not worth it. That's just the wrong general attitude.
Walk a season in the cleats of a B or C team player - poor organization comminication, sporadic practices, half the team can't catch or throw. It's just bad and should not be the same price as an "A" team experience.
Would like to hear the perspective of a current Express player or parent on a B or C team - especially if you are a public school kid or parent. Exactly what is the value proposition for you to stay with Express? We all know the unspoken pressure of the St. Anthony's or Chaminade connection with the Express directors but I don't understand the value for a public school kid to be surrounded by black and red helmets. There is little to no chance of ever moving up to the "A" once you have been labeled a B or C team player - unless your are a Cathoolic school kid and maybe considered the best on the B team might you ever have a shot - or if the grade seems not very deep. Otherwise you are in purgatory on the B or C forever. So, why stay and subsidise the "A" players? Please be honest about your connection to the Catholic school scene in your answer. Thanks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree but the bottom line is to WIN. WIN and Elite players will run to you. LOSE and they go elsewhere. WINNING is exposure. WINNING brings fees. Elite kids choose who they will play for. Obtain them at any cost
I agree 100% - it is what it is, people want to play for a winner and a few free tuition kids that brings a winner will pay for it self going forward, good business
Someday the parents of the troglites buried beneath the surface on the B and C teams will decide to no longer carry the burden of the chosen ones in the sun on the A teams.
So, I struggle with what the end game is of the B and C negativity. The common theme seems to be that if your kid isn't chosen to play on the "A" team, then they shouldn't play for the Express at all. Is this to suggest that they would be "A" material on another team? If so, is that team really an "A" team? I would venture that the same kids wouldn't make the "A" team for other quality programs either.
As for the current cost structure, Express is just the price leader here. Others will be there shortly. In fact, they may already be if you tack on cost for the fall program, a helmet (supposedly, Express is including a helmet this year, but who knows for sure) and assorted other a la carte items.
The bottom line is that good is good and the best will always have opportunity. That's true in life and not just in lacrosse. The "B" or "C" kid should dig deeper and work harder, if their goal is truly to make the "A" team. That's a life lesson and that is what parents should be teaching. Instead, the common thread seems to be that a fraud is being committed and nirvana can be found elsewhere. The lesson of casting blame instead of hard work. Guarantee that most parents think their kid is better than they really are.
I'm sure there are some bad apples or poorly handled incidents, but many of the 93 pages dedicated to this thread deal with "if it's not "A" it's not worth it. That's just the wrong general attitude.
Walk a season in the cleats of a B or C team player - poor organization comminication, sporadic practices, half the team can't catch or throw. It's just bad and should not be the same price as an "A" team experience.
Lets face it. The directors of the Express could care less what is going on with their B or C teams and hardly know your kid's name - unless of course you miss a payment.
I am aware of situations where HS coaches have told players that if they play on travel teams they will sit the bench for HS games
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lets face it. The directors of the Express could care less what is going on with their B or C teams and hardly know your kid's name - unless of course you miss a payment.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am aware of situations where HS coaches have told players that if they play on travel teams they will sit the bench for HS games
Please share the names of the High School programs where this statement has been made - BOTC will immediately FOIL for the relevant information with those school districts and the situation will get straightened out faster than a New [lacrosse] minute.
Now, over to you - send the information to us at cagesage@backofthecage.com.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am aware of situations where HS coaches have told players that if they play on travel teams they will sit the bench for HS games
Any HS coach worth his weight plays the best kids, regardless of who they play for in the summer. I can't comment on St A's or the 'nade, but Section XI rules have restrictions against coaches running "required" programs not affiliated with the school. In other words, your HS coach can't mandate that you play for his travel team. Can he bench you during the season if you don't? I guess so, but it is against the Section rules. If you find yourself in that situation, speak to the Athletic Director, Superintendent and School Board. Oh, and sign up for a quality travel program and get recruited through your play with that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree but the bottom line is to WIN. WIN and Elite players will run to you. LOSE and they go elsewhere. WINNING is exposure. WINNING brings fees. Elite kids choose who they will play for. Obtain them at any cost
I agree 100% - it is what it is, people want to play for a winner and a few free tuition kids that brings a winner will pay for it self going forward, good business
Someday the parents of the troglites buried beneath the surface on the B and C teams will decide to no longer carry the burden of the chosen ones in the sun on the A teams.
So, I struggle with what the end game is of the B and C negativity. The common theme seems to be that if your kid isn't chosen to play on the "A" team, then they shouldn't play for the Express at all. Is this to suggest that they would be "A" material on another team? If so, is that team really an "A" team? I would venture that the same kids wouldn't make the "A" team for other quality programs either.
As for the current cost structure, Express is just the price leader here. Others will be there shortly. In fact, they may already be if you tack on cost for the fall program, a helmet (supposedly, Express is including a helmet this year, but who knows for sure) and assorted other a la carte items.
The bottom line is that good is good and the best will always have opportunity. That's true in life and not just in lacrosse. The "B" or "C" kid should dig deeper and work harder, if their goal is truly to make the "A" team. That's a life lesson and that is what parents should be teaching. Instead, the common thread seems to be that a fraud is being committed and nirvana can be found elsewhere. The lesson of casting blame instead of hard work. Guarantee that most parents think their kid is better than they really are.
I'm sure there are some bad apples or poorly handled incidents, but many of the 93 pages dedicated to this thread deal with "if it's not "A" it's not worth it. That's just the wrong general attitude.
Walk a season in the cleats of a B or C team player - poor organization comminication, sporadic practices, half the team can't catch or throw. It's just bad and should not be the same price as an "A" team experience.
Lets face it. The directors of the Express could care less what is going on with their B or C teams and hardly know your kid's name - unless of course you miss a payment.
This statement is highly inacurate. My son is on an Express B team and the directora know my son very well and are very friendly toward him and me. I won't sugar coat it, there are issues with being on the B team of the Express,many of which have been portrayed accurately here but others misrepresented. Overall its been a good but not great experience. My son is well aware of the alternatives including fl$ but he prefers to stay where he is and continue to work hard to someday make the "A". Thats ok with me. By the way, we are a public school family.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am aware of situations where HS coaches have told players that if they play on travel teams they will sit the bench for HS games
Please share the names of the High School programs where this statement has been made - BOTC will immediately FOIL for the relevant information with those school districts and the situation will get straightened out faster than a New [lacrosse] minute. Now, over to you - send the information to us at cagesage@backofthecage.com.
My son plays on a 91 B team, and we couldn't be happier. The coaches do a ton of extra practices, scrimmages, and off season tournaments. His team had a very successful season, so to say the B teams aren't worth the investment is nit always accurate, and should be judged on a team by team basis. One clubs B team could be as good or better than another clubs A team, so don't get hung up on team labels.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am aware of situations where HS coaches have told players that if they play on travel teams they will sit the bench for HS games
Maybe the kid just isn't good enough to play for his HS?
Lets try to turn the bashing and criticism of the Express into something constructive to help the directors improve the level of satisfaction on the B and C teams. My best recommendation would be to do what most good businesses do - hire a company like survey monkey to conduct an anonomous survey of the parents with an opportunity for recommendations for improvements. Like this forum, people will be more willing to participate and provide honest and open feedback and ideas for improvement if it is anonymous. If the directors are smart they will use this feedback to better the experience and turn this negativity into something that will strenghten their business. If parents feel like their concerns are being heard and positive actions are being taken to improve the situation, the program's perception will only improve and the bottom line will follow. Otherwise, I'd agree with the previous poster that if the experience is not "A" and actions are not being taken to improve the experience, then a lower price for a less valuable experience is only right. I've seen this graduated pricing with some town programs - older kids charged more than younger kids and B teams charged less than A teams.
Everyone needs to put this whole A team thing in perspective. Take a minute and think about the numbers!!! In any given grade there are maybe 5 or 6 true A teams for travel lax on LI. So that's somewhere between 125 to 150 kids. Now, if you look at the number school districts that have lacrosse on Long island at least 100 districts. In any grade there are an average of 20 kids. That means 2000 plus kids are playing lacrosse per grade on Long Island. Could be higher. Just a guess on the numbers.
The point is, the overwhelming majority of these kids would be considered B or C team kids in the travel lax world.
Summer lax used to be about getting better, playing with kids at or above your ability, and playing against tough competition. After a summer of this you go back to your town and wow the school coach!!
If you're in this so you or your son can say we won the "summer beach fest" you're missing the boat. That's for the Directors so they can promote the business.
I will tell you from experience, working hard on a B or C team, paying for some training, and hitting gym hard will go a long way. Believe it or not when your son gets a little older it will also start to get him some looks from some colleges as well. Yes, B and C team kids can find a way to get recruited too..... It takes a dedicated kid, plenty of parent time, and unfortunately some money.
The point is, the overwhelming majority of these kids would be considered B or C team kids in the travel lax world.
Summer lax used to be about getting better, playing with kids at or above your ability, and playing against tough competition. After a summer of this you go back to your town and wow the school coach!!
If you're in this so you or your son can say we won the "summer beach fest" you're missing the boat. That's for the Directors so they can promote the business.
I will tell you from experience, working hard on a B or C team, paying for some training, and hitting gym hard will go a long way. Believe it or not when your son gets a little older it will also start to get him some looks from some colleges as well. Yes, B and C team kids can find a way to get recruited too..... It takes a dedicated kid, plenty of parent time, and unfortunately some money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am aware of situations where HS coaches have told players that if they play on travel teams they will sit the bench for HS games
Maybe the kid just isn't good enough to play for his HS?
No this kid is a stud and has had Div 1 offers
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am aware of situations where HS coaches have told players that if they play on travel teams they will sit the bench for HS games
Maybe the kid just isn't good enough to play for his HS?
No this kid is a stud and has had Div 1 offers
Name the HS coach. Let the lacrosse world know.
I think it all depends on the quality of the coaching at the B and C level. If the kids are getting good coaching and they are enjoying themselves, then its worth it. I have seen with a a lot of club team that they do neglect the B and C teams to a certain extent. Its buyer beware people, do whats best for your kid and have realistic expectations. My son and I have been through the "B" team thing and I can tell you i think it made my son a better player and made him work harder to be an A player. Whether or not clubs are using their B teams to subsidize the better teams remains to be seen, but regardless you have to make the best choice for your son. Bottom line, if the coaching is good, and hes with his friends and having fun, who cares if its A,B, or C. Every kid is different and you have to put your child in situations where he has the most opportunity to learn, succeed and progress as a player and a person.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am aware of situations where HS coaches have told players that if they play on travel teams they will sit the bench for HS games
Maybe the kid just isn't good enough to play for his HS?
No this kid is a stud and has had Div 1 offers
I seriously doubt a coach would out and out say that - if he did he would deserve to be fired, mostly for being stupid. The best players are going to play, but if your kid is not the best but pretty good and others on the team are also good and the other kids are playing and supporting the town teams (financially as well as joining) those other kids have an extra opportunity to perform for the coaches. It does not really matter if the pressure is real or perceived it is still there and if the pressure is felt by everybody, the perception becomes the reality.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think it all depends on the quality of the coaching at the B and C level. If the kids are getting good coaching and they are enjoying themselves, then its worth it. I have seen with a a lot of club team that they do neglect the B and C teams to a certain extent. Its buyer beware people, do whats best for your kid and have realistic expectations. My son and I have been through the "B" team thing and I can tell you i think it made my son a better player and made him work harder to be an A player. Whether or not clubs are using their B teams to subsidize the better teams remains to be seen, but regardless you have to make the best choice for your son. Bottom line, if the coaching is good, and hes with his friends and having fun, who cares if its A,B, or C. Every kid is different and you have to put your child in situations where he has the most opportunity to learn, succeed and progress as a player and a person.
Good post. But, keep in mind that the lack of exposure for the B and C teams becomes a very big deal during the recruiting years and the stakes are much higher when determining how to allocate your dollars. On a similar note, given that the recruiting starts early now, they should not allow kids that have already committted to a college to play for an "A" team to give more opportunities for excellent "B" players to move up to the "A" and get exposure. I know they do this on the oldest team but they should consider that for the 2014s and 2015s now too.
I think the owners and directors of 91,Jesters, fl$,Recon,True Blue ect. Should all buy MC a Christmas present this year, he is lining their pockets as well as the other Express Directors pockets (Why do they never get called out on any of this?) - fl$ raised the bar a few years ago as far as price and they got ripped to shreds but everybody followed them on the way up - now Express breaks through (more like rockets through) the $2,000 mark and while everybody is outraged I will bet that all the directors of competing clubs are already talking about what they can "Get" next year. Hopefully some of the smaller clubs will have success this year and become more desirable and we can all have some legitimate options going forward, next year we will hear about all the teams only charging $2,000...
although cage and others suggestion to just out the coaches or programs, i hope we can all agree there is no upside to being the whistle blower in our society. The spin machines will make anyone out to be disgruntle in some way. We have all heard coaches who give kids that play (pay) with them over the summer the benefit of the doubt when it comes to playing time. The empty threats that they won't be able to help them get recruited. Its sad, they have lost most of their influence due to the early recruiting process and will bully kids and their parents to make them stay in bad town teams so they build "chemistry" while the coaches pad their pockets on top of the huge public pensions they enjoy. If I hear another coach say we need to keep the kids together so the bottom kids can get better, what about the best kids don't they deserve to play with better kids so they too can get better?
well said!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
although cage and others suggestion to just out the coaches or programs, i hope we can all agree there is no upside to being the whistle blower in our society.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The spin machines will make anyone out to be disgruntle in some way. We have all heard coaches who give kids that play (pay) with them over the summer the benefit of the doubt when it comes to playing time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The empty threats that they won't be able to help them get recruited.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its sad, they have lost most of their influence due to the early recruiting process and will bully kids and their parents to make them stay in bad town teams so they build chemistry" while the coaches pad their pockets on top of the huge public pensions they enjoy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If I hear another coach say we need to keep the kids together so the bottom kids can get better, what about the best kids don't they deserve to play with better kids so they too can get better?
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
although cage and others suggestion to just out the coaches or programs, i hope we can all agree there is no upside to being the whistle blower in our society.
We are talking about youth lacrosse, not bringing down an international government. The bottom line is that allowing a coach to dictate what an amateur player is doing at the youth level is wrong on a myriad of levels; allowing it to happen as a parent is a second problem.
Well its easy to say when its not your child, believe me many parents are picking the lesser of two evils. and although its not international govt, it is public education (Gov't), the status qoe and if your serious you better have a good lawyer.
although cage and others suggestion to just out the coaches or programs, i hope we can all agree there is no upside to being the whistle blower in our society.
We are talking about youth lacrosse, not bringing down an international government. The bottom line is that allowing a coach to dictate what an amateur player is doing at the youth level is wrong on a myriad of levels; allowing it to happen as a parent is a second problem.
Well its easy to say when its not your child, believe me many parents are picking the lesser of two evils. and although its not international govt, it is public education (Gov't), the status qoe and if your serious you better have a good lawyer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its sad, they have lost most of their influence due to the early recruiting process and will bully kids and their parents to make them stay in bad town teams so they build chemistry" while the coaches pad their pockets on top of the huge public pensions they enjoy.
It takes a tremendous amount of courage to leave under the pressure, but I assure you even though it makes no sense its happening all over.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look, we can teach every eighth grade student in an Algebra class, but not all of them are going to make it to AP Calculus AB or BC come their senior year.
One Algebra class?? c'mon sage!!! they separate the kids academically in elementary school! And you know why? so the smart kids can get smarter, WHAT an original idea. And for the kids that start in the lower classes they have the slimmest of chances of ever catching up. they even do it for the arts. Its only sports they (public schools)hold everyone back for, hence the creation of competitive for profit sports.
Anyone know the 2018 team names?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know the 2018 team names?
Terps Coached by Chanenchuk/Lynott
Wolverines coached by Schwalje/Moran
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know the 2018 team names?
Terps Coached by Chanenchuk/Lynott
Wolverines coached by Schwalje/Moran
Where do those teams fall on the A, B, C scale? Seems as if the B/C team is getting some good coaching, which negates the often stated position that if a kid is not on A, then it's not worth it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know the 2018 team names?
Terps Coached by Chanenchuk/Lynott
Wolverines coached by Schwalje/Moran
Wait a minute, I thought Channy and Lynott were coaching the 2017 team Terps??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know the 2018 team names?
Terps Coached by Chanenchuk/Lynott
Wolverines coached by Schwalje/Moran
Wait a minute, I thought Channy and Lynott were coaching the 2017 team Terps??
Yes...2017 & 2018 Terps
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know the 2018 team names?
Terps Coached by Chanenchuk/Lynott
Wolverines coached by Schwalje/Moran
Wait a minute, I thought Channy and Lynott were coaching the 2017 team Terps??
Believe they are coaching 2017 and 2018 Terp teams and possibly 2016 Barracudas
They are coaching all the teams.They want the hub money brother.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are coaching all the teams.They want the hub money brother.
How can they coach every team? I guess on paper they coach every team, provide some instruction to each team and then attach themselves to one specific? My husband coaches for another big club and there is no way he could coach 2 or 3 teams with the level of commitment he gives his players.
So basically everyone was promised this great coaching staff (which it is, no doubt) but you have to share them with 3 or 4 other grade levels.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are coaching all the teams.They want the hub money brother.
How can they coach every team? I guess on paper they coach every team, provide some instruction to each team and then attach themselves to one specific? My husband coaches for another big club and there is no way he could coach 2 or 3 teams with the level of commitment he gives his players.
So basically everyone was promised this great coaching staff (which it is, no doubt) but you have to share them with 3 or 4 other grade levels.
Does your husband have a full time job? MC's full time job is lacrosse. He will have no problem managing 2017 & 2018 Terps.
Agreed. They have to fill 7 hours/day Monday-Friday and all day Sat/Sun at the Hub. They will set up practices so each team marches in and is coached by the same tandem of coaches. Comes spring/summer you will see them doing the 'tournament shuffle" from field to field.
Well said , too many parents worry about winning at all cost and forget that these boys are just kids.
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know the 2018 team names?
Terps Coached by Chanenchuk/Lynott
Wolverines coached by Schwalje/Moran
Wait a minute, I thought Channy and Lynott were coaching the 2017 team Terps??
Believe they are coaching 2017 and 2018 Terp teams and possibly 2016 Barracudas
How would you know? Do you have kids on all 3 teams or all 3 grades?
My biggest issue with this travel lacrosse thing is having truly independent evaluations. The talk of teams being picked before the tryouts and looking for a midfielder here or an attackman there is BS. They are forcing you to have the best second grader around and get on an A team early. Any parent who watches closely these tryouts knows for the most part the fix is in. My son has a classmate who told him he didn't even need to tryout for the A team he was on last summer. For a player on a B team to break onto any A team (and we are not just talking about the Express here) that kid needs to show up in September being the next Matt Danowski. I once watched a tryout where a coach moved kids to the back of the line, so he could place all of his A attackmen together on a 3 on 2 drill. Or how about taking a kid on a team who has no business on it because they are interested in his little brother? They collect $50-$100, and have you monitor your email and/or their website like a mental patient, praying this year it will all be different. And it never is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are coaching all the teams.They want the hub money brother.
How can they coach every team? I guess on paper they coach every team, provide some instruction to each team and then attach themselves to one specific? My husband coaches for another big club and there is no way he could coach 2 or 3 teams with the level of commitment he gives his players.
So basically everyone was promised this great coaching staff (which it is, no doubt) but you have to share them with 3 or 4 other grade levels.
Does your husband have a full time job? MC's full time job is lacrosse. He will have no problem managing 2017 & 2018 Terps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My biggest issue with this travel lacrosse thing is having truly independent evaluations. The talk of teams being picked before the tryouts and looking for a midfielder here or an attackman there is BS. They are forcing you to have the best second grader around and get on an A team early. Any parent who watches closely these tryouts knows for the most part the fix is in. My son has a classmate who told him he didn't even need to tryout for the A team he was on last summer. For a player on a B team to break onto any A team (and we are not just talking about the Express here) that kid needs to show up in September being the next Matt Danowski. I once watched a tryout where a coach moved kids to the back of the line, so he could place all of his A attackmen together on a 3 on 2 drill. Or how about taking a kid on a team who has no business on it because they are interested in his little brother? They collect $50-$100, and have you monitor your email and/or their website like a mental patient, praying this year it will all be different. And it never is.
Dude , there are PLENTY of well coached less competitive travel teams out there. Join one. If over the next few years your kid develops ( and he will develop more with these teams becasuse they care about him and give him time ) then you can go back to these other teams
Does anyone know if the 2018 notification have gone out yet?
Have notifications gone out for the 2018 team yet?
as for most programs if a coach happens to be from a particular town and his son is on a team that coach will have pressure to take kids from his community some will be better than the average but there can also be kids of equal skill and ability and the coach is going to take the kid from his town . this happens in travel lacrosse pay to play programs and in communituy based programs as well.
Dude, stop the BS my kid worked hard, trained hard, practice hard and was the fifth best middie at worst. And he got cut because mom and dad failed the credit score to pay for the hub.
Does anyone know what level team 2018 Piranhas for Express means?
This is a lot of non-sense. It all about the money! My wife and I paid a tremendous amount of money over the summer for our son to participate in Express sponsored clinics at the hub. We were told that joining these clinics would assure our son a spot on the A or B elite teams. We are going to stick with their biggest competitor where our son is on an elite team.
C & D Team Combined
"Have notifications gone out for the 2018 team yet?"
The welcome letter is sometimes hard to see, but it will arrive in an Express envelope and is usually the second page right behind the wage garnishment notice.
The welcome letter is sometimes hard to see, but it will arrive in an Express envelope and is usually the second page right behind the wage garnishment notice.
What about Baracudas?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone needs to put this whole A team thing in perspective. Take a minute and think about the numbers!!! In any given grade there are maybe 5 or 6 true A teams for travel lax on LI. So that's somewhere between 125 to 150 kids. Now, if you look at the number school districts that have lacrosse on Long island at least 100 districts. In any grade there are an average of 20 kids. That means 2000 plus kids are playing lacrosse per grade on Long Island. Could be higher. Just a guess on the numbers.
The point is, the overwhelming majority of these kids would be considered B or C team kids in the travel lax world.
Summer lax used to be about getting better, playing with kids at or above your ability, and playing against tough competition. After a summer of this you go back to your town and wow the school coach!!
If you're in this so you or your son can say we won the "summer beach fest" you're missing the boat. That's for the Directors so they can promote the business.
I will tell you from experience, working hard on a B or C team, paying for some training, and hitting gym hard will go a long way. Believe it or not when your son gets a little older it will also start to get him some looks from some colleges as well. Yes, B and C team kids can find a way to get recruited too..... It takes a dedicated kid, plenty of parent time, and unfortunately some money.
The point is, the overwhelming majority of these kids would be considered B or C team kids in the travel lax world.
Summer lax used to be about getting better, playing with kids at or above your ability, and playing against tough competition. After a summer of this you go back to your town and wow the school coach!!
If you're in this so you or your son can say we won the "summer beach fest" you're missing the boat. That's for the Directors so they can promote the business.
I will tell you from experience, working hard on a B or C team, paying for some training, and hitting gym hard will go a long way. Believe it or not when your son gets a little older it will also start to get him some looks from some colleges as well. Yes, B and C team kids can find a way to get recruited too..... It takes a dedicated kid, plenty of parent time, and unfortunately some money.
amen.
Good luck to 2019 tryouts
how many 2018 teams will the Express have
so can anyone tell me what level the 2018 pirahnas are?
C team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is a lot of non-sense. It all about the money! My wife and I paid a tremendous amount of money over the summer for our son to participate in Express sponsored clinics at the hub. We were told that joining these clinics would assure our son a spot on the A or B elite teams. We are going to stick with their biggest competitor where our son is on an elite team.
I have NEVER heard of anyone that was guaranteed a spot on an A or B elite team by going to the HUB. We were at the clinics but nobody guaranteed anything. They guaranteed small clinics with specialized training. And we got that. I think they said, "It might help them." Would love to know who told you that your son would be "assured a spot on an A or B elite team" ???
The 2018 thread has piranhas as "C" team. Don't know if this is accurate.
TERPS -A
WOLVERINES -B
PIRANHAS -C
BARRACUDAS -D
WOLVERINES -B
PIRANHAS -C
BARRACUDAS -D
that is the B team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is a lot of non-sense. It all about the money! My wife and I paid a tremendous amount of money over the summer for our son to participate in Express sponsored clinics at the hub. We were told that joining these clinics would assure our son a spot on the A or B elite teams. We are going to stick with their biggest competitor where our son is on an elite team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is a lot of non-sense. It all about the money! My wife and I paid a tremendous amount of money over the summer for our son to participate in Express sponsored clinics at the hub. We were told that joining these clinics would assure our son a spot on the A or B elite teams. We are going to stick with their biggest competitor where our son is on an elite team.
Whining- Nobody ever told you that. They alluded to it, and you were too naiive to see through it. C'mon.....
No. Turtles are the A team. Never forget that and stop kidding yourself. Some of the Terps players were cut from other teams.
Absolutely correct and well said!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone needs to put this whole A team thing in perspective. Take a minute and think about the numbers!!! In any given grade there are maybe 5 or 6 true A teams for travel lax on LI. So that's somewhere between 125 to 150 kids. Now, if you look at the number school districts that have lacrosse on Long island at least 100 districts. In any grade there are an average of 20 kids. That means 2000 plus kids are playing lacrosse per grade on Long Island. Could be higher. Just a guess on the numbers.
The point is, the overwhelming majority of these kids would be considered B or C team kids in the travel lax world.
Summer lax used to be about getting better, playing with kids at or above your ability, and playing against tough competition. After a summer of this you go back to your town and wow the school coach!!
If you're in this so you or your son can say we won the "summer beach fest" you're missing the boat. That's for the Directors so they can promote the business.
I will tell you from experience, working hard on a B or C team, paying for some training, and hitting gym hard will go a long way. Believe it or not when your son gets a little older it will also start to get him some looks from some colleges as well. Yes, B and C team kids can find a way to get recruited too..... It takes a dedicated kid, plenty of parent time, and unfortunately some money.
The point is, the overwhelming majority of these kids would be considered B or C team kids in the travel lax world.
Summer lax used to be about getting better, playing with kids at or above your ability, and playing against tough competition. After a summer of this you go back to your town and wow the school coach!!
If you're in this so you or your son can say we won the "summer beach fest" you're missing the boat. That's for the Directors so they can promote the business.
I will tell you from experience, working hard on a B or C team, paying for some training, and hitting gym hard will go a long way. Believe it or not when your son gets a little older it will also start to get him some looks from some colleges as well. Yes, B and C team kids can find a way to get recruited too..... It takes a dedicated kid, plenty of parent time, and unfortunately some money.
My son attended several of those clinics and noone ever indicated that he was going to get on a team. Doesn't even make sense that they would. So if great players don't happe to go to the HUB, they're not going to take them on their team? Think about it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are coaching all the teams.They want the hub money brother.
How can they coach every team? I guess on paper they coach every team, provide some instruction to each team and then attach themselves to one specific? My husband coaches for another big club and there is no way he could coach 2 or 3 teams with the level of commitment he gives his players.
So basically everyone was promised this great coaching staff (which it is, no doubt) but you have to share them with 3 or 4 other grade levels.
Does your husband have a full time job? MC's full time job is lacrosse. He will have no problem managing 2017 & 2018 Terps.
Ill be honest, I don't care if MC is coaching the game at the tournament, it's the training and practice that will get your son better. Not who is strategically better on the sideline to win the game. Furthermore, what does that imply if MC wasn't at the tri-state game? If he was there, Express would have won? Maybe, maybe not. But the bottom line is the two teams were very well matched and the game could have gone either way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are coaching all the teams.They want the hub money brother.
How can they coach every team? I guess on paper they coach every team, provide some instruction to each team and then attach themselves to one specific? My husband coaches for another big club and there is no way he could coach 2 or 3 teams with the level of commitment he gives his players.
So basically everyone was promised this great coaching staff (which it is, no doubt) but
you have to share them with 3 or 4 other grade levels.
loss to 91 in the championship was one of them. before you sign, ask him if he'll be
there.
Does your husband have a full time job? MC's full time job is lacrosse. He will have no problem managing 2017 & 2018 Terps.
Ill be honest, I don't care if MC is coaching the game at the tournament, it's the training and practice that will get your son better. Not who is strategically better on the sideline to win the game. Furthermore, what does that imply if MC wasn't at the tri-state game? If he was there, Express would have won? Maybe, maybe not. But the bottom
line is the two teams were very well matched and the game could have gone either
way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are coaching all the teams.They want the hub money brother.
How can they coach every team? I guess on paper they coach every team, provide some instruction to each team and then attach themselves to one specific? My husband coaches for another big club and there is no way he could coach 2 or 3 teams with the level of commitment he gives his players.
So basically everyone was promised this great coaching staff (which it is, no doubt) but you have to share them with 3 or 4 other grade levels.
Does your husband have a full time job? MC's full time job is lacrosse. He will have no problem managing 2017 & 2018 Terps.
Ill be honest, I don't care if MC is coaching the game at the tournament, it's the training and practice that will get your son better. Not who is strategically better on the sideline to win the game. Furthermore, what does that imply if MC wasn't at the tri-state game? If he was there, Express would have won? Maybe, maybe not. But the bottom line is the two teams were very well matched and the game could have gone either way.
Seriously?? You dont care if MC is coaching a game? Yes, training & practice will get your son better but, if a coach is is worth anything it IS the strategy on the sideline that will HELP these boys win a game. Its respect for the coach & his respect for his players during "game time" that matters. People are paying ALOT of $$ for a good coach to be @ practice, training & ALL games/tournaments. Job or no job MC is spreading himself thin coachng 3 (or more) teams!
Matt V from the HUB made the promise, he makes all the side deals and our son is a notch top A Defenseman!! He one lines MC's pockets and that is the truth!!!
The Terps will be very good although it is true that four boys decided to go elsewhere.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are coaching all the teams.They want the hub money brother.
How can they coach every team? I guess on paper they coach every team, provide some instruction to each team and then attach themselves to one specific? My husband coaches for another big club and there is no way he could coach 2 or 3 teams with the level of commitment he gives his players.
So basically everyone was promised this great coaching staff (which it is, no doubt) but
you have to share them with 3 or 4 other grade levels.
didn't MC miss 2 out of 5 summer tournaments last year? Tri State double overtime
loss to 91 in the championship was one of them. before you sign, ask him if he'll be
there.
Does your husband have a full time job? MC's full time job is lacrosse. He will have no problem managing 2017 & 2018 Terps.
Ill be honest, I don't care if MC is coaching the game at the tournament, it's the training and practice that will get your son better. Not who is strategically better on the sideline to win the game. Furthermore, what does that imply if MC wasn't at the tri-state
[s][/s]game? If he was there, Express would have won? Maybe, maybe not. But the
bottom line is the two teams were very well matched and the game could have gone
either way.
Seriously?? You dont care if MC is coaching a game? Yes, training & practice will get your son better but, if a coach is is worth anything it IS the strategy on the sideline that
will HELP these boys win a game. Its respect for the coach & his respect for his
players during "game time" that matters. People are paying ALOT of $$ for a good
coach to be @ practice, training & ALL games/tournaments. Job or no job MC is
spreading himself thin coachng 3 (or more) teams!
He disappointed the kids, never addressed the parents, and just bolted to a game that had a schedule change that caused the conflict. An apology would have went a long way but it never came.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I tell who told us Matt V. who is the 1/3 owner of the Hub. Our son is a top notch defenseman and will play for 91 again. At least at 91 they are not rob us with clincs!!!
What do think DLT is then? First look lacrosse camp? They are only too happy to take your money. There is a summer camp too but I forgot the name.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I tell who told us Matt V. who is the 1/3 owner of the Hub. Our son is a top notch defenseman and will play for 91 again. At least at 91 they are not rob us with clincs!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I tell who told us Matt V. who is the 1/3 owner of the Hub. Our son is a top notch defenseman and will play for 91 again. At least at 91 they are not rob us with clincs!!!
I would like to apply for a job on BOTC as a moderator;
There are some very legitimate opinions about the hub,extra training, how teams are selected ect. that should be discussed here on BOTC without vicious personal attacks. As parents at the express tryouts for the 2018 team, none of us were aware of an "A" defensemen that played on 91 Orange last year that was even at the Express tryout.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I tell who told us Matt V. who is the 1/3 owner of the Hub. Our son is a top notch defenseman and will play for 91 again. At least at 91 they are not rob us with clincs!!!
I would like to apply for a job on BOTC as a moderator;
There are some very legitimate opinions about the hub,extra training, how teams are selected ect. that should be discussed here on BOTC without vicious personal attacks. As parents at the express tryouts for the 2018 team, none of us were aware of an "A" defensemen that played on 91 Orange last year that was even at the Express tryout.
please delete the above post - you edited out the point of the post (personal attack on MV ) and now it just doesn't make any sense - would you have deleted if he were not an advertiser? when you edit a post don't you usually say that it is an edited post? and why?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I tell who told us Matt V. who is the 1/3 owner of the Hub. Our son is a top notch defenseman and will play for 91 again. At least at 91 they are not rob us with clincs!!!
I would like to apply for a job on BOTC as a moderator;
There are some very legitimate opinions about the hub,extra training, how teams are selected ect. that should be discussed here on BOTC without vicious personal attacks. As parents at the express tryouts for the 2018 team, none of us were aware of an "A" defensemen that played on 91 Orange last year that was even at the Express tryout.
Nobody put a gun to my head. Nobody said my kid would make an "A" team. Somebody might have tried to sell their business by stating that time with a stick in his hand would make him a better player. There was extra training available through the Hub. My son wanted to play, I had a bit of extra money and so he went. I think it is disgusting to slander another human being who has a family to take care of on a Lacrosse Website. Not every kid will be an "A" player and that should be fine. Lacrosse has helped to boost my son's confidence. It has helped improve his grades. It has taught him to work hard for what he wants. As a parent I couldn't even look at him if I taught him that I bought his way onto a team. What kind of message would I be sending him? P.S. My kid is a pretty good defenseman but I hope that I have taught him how to be a good man.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I tell who told us Matt V. who is the 1/3 owner of the Hub. Our son is a top notch defenseman and will play for 91 again. At least at 91 they are not rob us with clincs!!!
I would like to apply for a job on BOTC as a moderator;
There are some very legitimate opinions about the hub,extra training, how teams are selected ect. that should be discussed here on BOTC without vicious personal attacks. As parents at the express tryouts for the 2018 team, none of us were aware of an "A" defensemen that played on 91 Orange last year that was even at the Express tryout.
Nobody put a gun to my head. Nobody said my kid would make an "A" team. Somebody might have tried to sell their business by stating that time with a stick in his hand would make him a better player. There was extra training available through the
Hub. My son wanted to play, I had a bit of extra money and so he went. I think it is
disgusting to slander another human being who has a family to take care of on a
Lacrosse Website. Not every kid will be an "A" player and that should be fine. Lacrosse
has helped to boost my son's confidence. It has helped improve his grades. It has
taught him to work hard for what he wants. As a parent I couldn't even look at him if I
taught him that I bought his way onto a team. What kind of message would I be
sending him? P.S. My kid is a pretty good defenseman but I hope that I have taught
him how to be a good man.
Just another day on the back of the cage. Let me be the first to apologize for reacting to an earlier post than has since been remove by BOTC. I should have known better. Lacrosse is a great game at any level. I wish the best for your son and mine
2018 Teams
A Terps
B Wolverines
C Barracuda
C Piranha
A Terps
B Wolverines
C Barracuda
C Piranha
Hey "Z", don't you have anything better to do with your time than to continually make more and more enemies. The only reason you even wear an Express coaches jacket is because of your son and even that's getting tiresome. You slander good people who spend countless hours putting together OPPORTUNITIES for our kids to train. Just like anything else in life, if you don;t like it.....................don't do it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are coaching all the teams.They want the hub money brother.
How can they coach every team? I guess on paper they coach every team, provide some instruction to each team and then attach themselves to one specific? My husband coaches for another big club and there is no way he could coach 2 or 3 teams with the level of commitment he gives his players.
So basically everyone was promised this great coaching staff (which it is, no doubt) but
you have to share them with 3 or 4 other grade levels.
loss to 91 in the championship was one of them. before you sign, ask him if he'll be
there.
Does your husband have a full time job? MC's full time job is lacrosse. He will have no problem managing 2017 & 2018 Terps.
Ill be honest, I don't care if MC is coaching the game at the tournament, it's the training and practice that will get your son better. Not who is strategically better on the sideline to win the game. Furthermore, what does that imply if MC wasn't at the tri-state game? If he was there, Express would have won? Maybe, maybe not. But the bottom
line is the two teams were very well matched and the game could have gone either
way.
That's why there are many clubs to choose from. If you don't like the way one is run, go to another. Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Next guy would, so this club is obviously not for him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Matt V from the HUB made the promise, he makes all the side deals and our son is a notch top A Defenseman!! He one lines MC's pockets and that is the truth!!!
To make a personal attack on any individual is unacceptable. I'm sure your son is an excellent defensemen, but there were no defenseman from the 2018 91 Orange team that attended the 2018 Express try-out. The anonymous personal attacks need to stop on all levels. The boys will eventually (if not already) begin to read these posts. They're all bright kids and it won't take much for them to figure out who is being ripped apart here. It's time for everyone to take this into account and act like adults. If you have something to say, call the person directly, say it and let it end there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I tell who told us Matt V. who is the 1/3 owner of the Hub. Our son is a top notch defenseman and will play for 91 again. At least at 91 they are not rob us with clincs!!!
So basically you were willing to buy your son a spot on the team by attending the clinics and you talk about ethics?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are coaching all the teams.They want the hub money brother.
How can they coach every team? I guess on paper they coach every team, provide some instruction to each team and then attach themselves to one specific? My husband coaches for another big club and there is no way he could coach 2 or 3 teams with the level of commitment he gives his players.
So basically everyone was promised this great coaching staff (which it is, no doubt) but you have to share them with 3 or 4 other grade levels.
Does your husband have a full time job? MC's full time job is lacrosse. He will have no problem managing 2017 & 2018 Terps.
Ill be honest, I don't care if MC is coaching the game at the tournament, it's the training and practice that will get your son better. Not who is strategically better on the sideline to win the game. Furthermore, what does that imply if MC wasn't at the tri-state game? If he was there, Express would have won? Maybe, maybe not. But the bottom line is the two teams were very well matched and the game could have gone either way.
Seriously?? You dont care if MC is coaching a game? Yes, training & practice will get your son better but, if a coach is is worth anything it IS the strategy on the sideline that will HELP these boys win a game. Its respect for the coach & his respect for his players during "game time" that matters. People are paying ALOT of $$ for a good coach to be @ practice, training & ALL games/tournaments. Job or no job MC is spreading himself thin coachng 3 (or more) teams!
It's very simple, there are other clubs for you to choose from.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I tell who told us Matt V. who is the 1/3 owner of the Hub. Our son is a top notch defenseman and will play for 91 again. At least at 91 they are not rob us with clincs!!!
So basically you were willing to buy your son a spot on the team by attending the clinics and you talk about ethics?
BOTC wants to make it completely clear that the discussion about this entire situation (player, family, indoor training) is now closed. No further posts on this particular subject will be approved by the moderators.
Should anyone attempt to post further regarding this situation, BOTC will apply our Board Rules including our Remediation Process.
Seems like express owns BOTC to, very sad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like express owns BOTC to, very sad.
That said, the conversation terminated has nothing to do with the Express specifically, but a directed attack on a particular player/family. BOTC investigated the situation and has decided to end the discussion.
A few months ago you had no problem with a post accusing and a 91 coach of sending his player out to hurt someone. The name of the coach was on there as well. You never took that one down.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few months ago you had no problem with a post accusing and a 91 coach of sending his player out to hurt someone. The name of the coach was on there as well. You never took that one down.
Oh get over it. Nice job moderating the site.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few months ago you had no problem with a post accusing and a 91 coach of sending his player out to hurt someone. The name of the coach was on there as well. You never took that one down.
here are your rules -
1) "Note that anonymous (unregistered) postings will be more closely scrutinized for objectionable content"
yet you allowed a father to be called <<DELETED>>.
2) "Identification of adults in posts should be accompanied with substantiated facts and details."
did they in fact substantiate that he was <<DELETED>> before you allowed the post?
I really think you owe him a public apology, I do not think merely deleting the word after you originally allowed it to be posted is enough.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I really think you owe him a public apology, I do not think merely deleting the word after you originally allowed it to be posted is enough.
As a registered user trying to stir the pot anonymously, you really should know better. By the way, you are posting this way for a reason, correct? Think about it.
express rocks
Has the 2021 team been chosen yet?
On the last night of tryouts the coaches said everyone would be getting an email on the decision, yea or nay...but to also speak with them at the end in order to double check if the registered email address was correct.
They did have our correct email address....we just haven't heard yea or nay yet. We are currently figuring it's a nay.
Thanks to anyone who responds.
On the last night of tryouts the coaches said everyone would be getting an email on the decision, yea or nay...but to also speak with them at the end in order to double check if the registered email address was correct.
They did have our correct email address....we just haven't heard yea or nay yet. We are currently figuring it's a nay.
Thanks to anyone who responds.
I'm not sure about 2021, but my son tried out for 2022 and we haven't heard anything yet either. I was hoping to hear something by the end of the week....
Good Luck to you!!
Good Luck to you!!
Son just got into Express 2021 Terps. Is it A,B or C Team? Anything I need to know about the team? coaches? etc. Thank you.
Originally Posted by Lax 24/7
I'm not sure about 2021, but my son tried out for 2022 and we haven't heard anything yet either. I was hoping to hear something by the end of the week....
Good Luck to you!!
Good Luck to you!!
can the kids on the 2022 even spell express? I hear they will be starting a pre-k program in 2014
Son just got into Express 2021 Terps. Is it an A, B or C team? Do I need to know anything about the team? coaches? thanks.
From earlier threads it appears as though Terps is A, Wolverines is B.
My son just made the Wolverines.
All the information is in the email, and the coaches are listed as well. Practices start this weekend.
My son just made the Wolverines.
All the information is in the email, and the coaches are listed as well. Practices start this weekend.
I believe for 2021
A is Wolverines, B is Terps
A is Wolverines, B is Terps
thank you.
Did the pick the 2028 team yet? If not I'll conceive tonight!
Any way to confirm that?
By Far the funniest comment EVER.
Scary thing is that some guy out there thinks this is a great idea. He probably said to himself "If I can only get all my athletic friends to have sex the same time I do, then we can all play travel lax together"
Scary thing is that some guy out there thinks this is a great idea. He probably said to himself "If I can only get all my athletic friends to have sex the same time I do, then we can all play travel lax together"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the pick the 2028 team yet? If not I'll conceive tonight!
last thing you want is a July lacrosse birthday, wait until December to conceive, then you can have a September laxer just don't start school early. common man, you gotta think this through
2019 Wolverines are the A team
Your right sorry. Haha
Awesome idea!!! Lezzgo lasers, hahaha
All so confusing - What is the 2019 Terps? B?
I read posts for other years making the terps D.
I hope Express will make a statement so we do not have guess.
I read posts for other years making the terps D.
I hope Express will make a statement so we do not have guess.
who is coaching the wolverines
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is coaching the wolverines
come on, if you dont know you shouldnt be on it!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All so confusing - What is the 2019 Terps? B?
I read posts for other years making the terps D.
I hope Express will make a statement so we do not have guess.
I read posts for other years making the terps D.
I hope Express will make a statement so we do not have guess.
How many teams will they carry for 2019? 2, 3, or 4.
Is one team a mix 5/6?
Wolverines A
Terps B
'Cudas ??
(who is the piranhas is there a team called such)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the pick the 2028 team yet? If not I'll conceive tonight!
last thing you want is a July lacrosse birthday, wait until December to conceive, then you can have a September laxer just don't start school early. common man, you gotta think this through
By then the eligible month will be July
For 2022, there is only one team called the Terps. Does that mean this is the A team? Any idea how good this team is compared to Team 91 2022? My son got on both teams. Trying to figure it out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For 2022, there is only one team called the Terps. Does that mean this is the A team? Any idea how good this team is compared to Team 91 2022? My son got on both teams. Trying to figure it out.
You will probably do fine at either. I believe that 91 is your best bet. Realize that it will be what YOU make of it. Enjoy, and practice hard. Make sure that whichever you chose delivers what they CLAIM that they will.
Sorry for not elaborating on my prior post, which is not up yet. My personal recommendation to go with 91 was not a cheesey snipe at Express. We have been on both clubs, and do feel that there is far less negative junk at 91. Either way, enjoy. Also, I realize that this is an Express thread. Just keeping up on things, nothing shifty!
A friend's kid tried out for both and said there was only 30 kids or so trying out for the 2022 Express team compared to over 100 for team 91? He thought the talent level was better at 91. Base d on that, I think 91 might be a better
Anyone no the status of the Express 2018 Barracudas Team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A friend's kid tried out for both and said there was only 30 kids or so trying out for the 2022 Express team compared to over 100 for team 91? He thought the talent level was better at 91. Base d on that, I think 91 might be a better
I think there were less than 30 at Express for 2022 both nights.
If there were "over 100" at team 91 then you know which is the better team, but 100 3rd graders is quite a bit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A friend's kid tried out for both and said there was only 30 kids or so trying out for the 2022 Express team compared to over 100 for team 91? He thought the talent level was better at 91. Base d on that, I think 91 might be a better
Good thing you clarified which team of 8 year olds are the pre-season favorite. You can rest easy, knowing that you have provided such valuable info to the local lacrosse world.
It is nice to see some people still have a sense of humor and don't take kiddie lax too seriously. This is a great sight for info, but some of the postings are insane. It is sad that most of the stupid postings are from parents of grade school kids.
Cage, the power ranger post was one of the funniest. why was it removed. I did not find it offensive and I have a 2022 kid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cage, the power ranger post was one of the funniest. why was it removed. I did not find it offensive and I have a 2022 kid.
I have a son that plays on a Team 91 2022 Team. I have heard a good deal about other 2022 Teams but havent heard anything about LI Express 2022, did they have tryouts? were they well attended? did they make 1 or 2 teams or none? I heard recently that they were still looking for kids for this age bracket and that it was going to be a developmental team. not trying to stir anything up, just curious who we can expect to see in the spring and summer. thanks,
made my day reading this. LOL
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a son that plays on a Team 91 2022 Team. I have heard a good deal about other 2022 Teams but havent heard anything about LI Express 2022, did they have tryouts? were they well attended? did they make 1 or 2 teams or none? I heard recently that they were still looking for kids for this age bracket and that it was going to be a developmental team. not trying to stir anything up, just curious who we can expect to see in the spring and summer. thanks,
I saw them play last year in Tri-State. Despite the heat they played with a short bench (nobody taller than 45" in height) and were dominant throughout the tournament. Although the poles for the D-Men were taller than them they wielded them with unbelieveable skill and held most opponents to less than 3 goals/game. At friendlys after the tournament they all ate their ice cream without making a mess, except for of course little Johnny who dropped his fribble all over the senior citizens who were there for the early bird special.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a son that plays on a Team 91 2022 Team. I have heard a good deal about other 2022 Teams but havent heard anything about LI Express 2022, did they have tryouts? were they well attended? did they make 1 or 2 teams or none? I heard recently that they were still looking for kids for this age bracket and that it was going to be a developmental team. not trying to stir anything up, just curious who we can expect to see in the spring and summer. thanks,
I saw them play last year in Tri-State. Despite the heat they played with a short bench (nobody taller than 45" in height) and were dominant throughout the tournament. Although the poles for the D-Men were taller than them they wielded them with unbelieveable skill and held most opponents to less than 3 goals/game. At friendlys after the tournament they all ate their ice cream without making a mess, except for of course little Johnny who dropped his fribble all over the senior citizens who were there for the early bird special.
That routine has been played out way too man times. At the end of the day you are suggesting that a 9 year olds parents should care less about their child's lacrosse than say an 11 year old etc. so Johnny can't tie his shoes, Johnny doesn't shave yet, or Johnny doesn't play D-1...is it wrong for the parent of a 9 year old to be just as interested and curious about his kids lacrosse as the parent of a 15 year old kid?...we know when your Johnny was 9 you were above being excited for him...super cool, loser
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a son that plays on a Team 91 2022 Team. I have heard a good deal about other 2022 Teams but havent heard anything about LI Express 2022, did they have tryouts? were they well attended? did they make 1 or 2 teams or none? I heard recently that they were still looking for kids for this age bracket and that it was going to be a developmental team. not trying to stir anything up, just curious who we can expect to see in the spring and summer. thanks,
I would hope that any and every 2022 is a developmental team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a son that plays on a Team 91 2022 Team. I have heard a good deal about other 2022 Teams but havent heard anything about LI Express 2022, did they have tryouts? were they well attended? did they make 1 or 2 teams or none? I heard recently that they were still looking for kids for this age bracket and that it was going to be a developmental team. not trying to stir anything up, just curious who we can expect to see in the spring and summer. thanks,
I would hope that any and every 2022 is a developmental team.
Parents pay a lot of money for their kids to play for 91, tomahawks, express, trueblue, havoc, etc. at the 2022 level, similar to parents who have kids at the 2021 or 2020 or 2019 level, they all go to tournaments, they all play in OBL, they all want to win and learn. I would hope lacrosse is developmental until your kid becomes Casey Powell. That said I dont see the joke in being curious about your son's competition whether he is 9 or 11 or 13. What is tue cutoff when lacrosse is no longer developmental and when it is ok to inquire about competition?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a son that plays on a Team 91 2022 Team. I have heard a good deal about other 2022 Teams but havent heard anything about LI Express 2022, did they have tryouts? were they well attended? did they make 1 or 2 teams or none? I heard recently that they were still looking for kids for this age bracket and that it was going to be a developmental team. not trying to stir anything up, just curious who we can expect to see in the spring and summer. thanks,
I would hope that any and every 2022 is a developmental team.
Parents pay a lot of money for their kids to play for 91, tomahawks, express, trueblue, havoc, etc. at the 2022 level, similar to parents who have kids at the 2021 or 2020 or 2019 level, they all go to tournaments, they all play in OBL, they all want to win and learn. I would hope lacrosse is developmental until your kid becomes Casey Powell. That said I dont see the joke in being curious about your son's competition whether he is 9 or 11 or 13. What is tue cutoff when lacrosse is no longer developmental and when it is ok to inquire about competition?
Lets look at it this way. They are third graders. Trying to size up competion at this age is ridiculous. You need for kids to learn the game of lacrosse before you worry about winning and losing. At the end of the day 99% of the kids don't care if they win or lose. If your son is playing to count wins and losses for you it is pathetic. Let the kids at least finish 6th grade. with no pressure on them. These years are meant to lead up to the years that really count. Parents that put so much pressure on the kids at this age wind up ruining the kids because they grow to hate the game.LET THE KIDS BE KIDS GO FIND A SPORT YOU CAN PUT PRESSURE ON YOURSELF TO WIN LET YOUR KID ENJOY HIS CHILDHOOD IT GOES BY QUICKLY
Great post and I agree 100%... how many games did you care about winning or losing when you were 10.. take up tennis or golf and compete like [lacrosse], let your kids have fun. Jeez.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great post and I agree 100%... how many games did you care about winning or losing when you were 10.. take up tennis or golf and compete like [lacrosse], let your kids have fun. Jeez.
You guys are funny. I am sure you didnt care whether your kids won or lost until they were 13 years old. You were the only ones on the sideline reading the paper because you cared so little. Give me a break...yes now that your son is a little older you can look back and say that it was silly to be competitive when your son was 9 years old, but hind sight is 20/20. Face it you were running up and down the field screaming for your little Johnny just like everyone else.
Actually i think you miss the point, the person inquired about what other teams are playing at the 2022 level. This is not about a kid caring if he wins or loses, this is about a parent wanting to know what teams his or her kid will be playing. Is that sizing the competition or maybe just a curious parent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually i think you miss the point, the person inquired about what other teams are playing at the 2022 level. This is not about a kid caring if he wins or loses, this is about a parent wanting to know what teams his or her kid will be playing. Is that sizing the competition or maybe just a curious parent.
I can tell you this, the only thing to me that stunk more then getting blown out at a game was blowing the other guys out. I hate lopsided games either way so a parent wondering what the teams his kid plays agin will be like is okay if its for the right reason
My condolences, lol.
Has anyone heard from anyone from the Express about meeting the team/coaches. Discuss expectations from the players, the parents, and the coaches. I got the request for the first tuition payment right away. But now crickets...what gives? I heard other teams have already had a few practices.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually i think you miss the point, the person inquired about what other teams are playing at the 2022 level. This is not about a kid caring if he wins or loses, this is about a parent wanting to know what teams his or her kid will be playing. Is that sizing the competition or maybe just a curious parent.
I can tell you this, the only thing to me that stunk more then getting blown out at a game was blowing the other guys out. I hate lopsided games either way so a parent wondering what the teams his kid plays agin will be like is okay if its for the right reason
You have a team 91 parent asking about express teams. Then he hears that the express is saying they are a developtmental team and is stirring the pot.If express and team 91 play three games all year it would be a lot. What about all the other teams you will play. Are you going to be the idiot who calls all tournaments at the third grade level and tells them you kid has to play only certain teams. Better yet when your team loses you will go blame all the other kids on your team so all the other parents on your team hate you too. Go post on 91 thred they deal with people like you all the time.
I would e-mail the directors. I was waiting also and finally e-mailed MC. He got back to me right away.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone heard from anyone from the Express about meeting the team/coaches. Discuss expectations from the players, the parents, and the coaches. I got the request for the first tuition payment right away. But now crickets...what gives? I heard other teams have already had a few practices.
Surprised? You had been warned. Yes, practicing weekly for four weeks. Rock on, Express!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually i think you miss the point, the person inquired about what other teams are playing at the 2022 level. This is not about a kid caring if he wins or loses, this is about a parent wanting to know what teams his or her kid will be playing. Is that sizing the competition or maybe just a curious parent.
I can tell you this, the only thing to me that stunk more then getting blown out at a game was blowing the other guys out. I hate lopsided games either way so a parent wondering what the teams his kid plays agin will be like is okay if its for the right reason
You have a team 91 parent asking about express teams. Then he hears that the express is saying they are a developtmental team and is stirring the pot.If express and team 91 play three games all year it would be a lot. What about all the other teams you will play. Are you going to be the idiot who calls all tournaments at the third grade level and tells them you kid has to play only certain teams. Better yet when your team loses you will go blame all the other kids on your team so all the other parents on your team hate you too. Go post on 91 thred they deal with people like you all the time.
Hey, a secret: some 91 folks, as well as Express folks, get along just fine. Some folks, sounds as if you may belong to this bunch, will end up someplace else. Hope so!
Did anyone get info about practices and Fall tournaments for Express 2016 teams?
8th graders are practicing.
Usually the "A" teams have already practicing and going to fall tournaments.
Anyone on the other teams hear about practices or tournaments for the fall? Are the tournaments listed on their website only for A teams?
2018 Teams have either started last week or are starting this week. I believe the tournaments are for ALL teams (or whoever signed up for the fall season), not Just for the A teams.
2018 teams are starting to practice this week and have a list of fall tournaments. There are 4 for 2018.
Don't know about 2016, but 2018 is starting to practice this week.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2018 teams are starting to practice this week and have a list of fall tournaments. There are 4 for 2018.
What tournaments. Would love to see if any of the other so called top teams will be going to same ones.
2018 terps have had two practices--two more planned this week and tournament in MD this weekend.
Tourneys are listed on the website, under Tournaments. Crazy I know.
Some 2018 Fall Tournaments....
Nov 3rd - Fall Final Classic - Princeton, NJ
Nov 10th - Oyster Bay Fall Brawl
Nov 3rd - Fall Final Classic - Princeton, NJ
Nov 10th - Oyster Bay Fall Brawl
Anyone hear about tournaments for 2016 boys for the fall?
Heard rumor Express running recruting tournament in july on Island. any one have info on this?
Who coaches 2019 Wolverines ?
Emails started to go out for 2016 practices. The email said information on tournaments will come next week.
Anyone know what the teams are for 2016 Express? Are there still 4 teams with Cudas, Piranhas, Wolverines and Terps?
DID ANYONE RECEIVE AN EMAIL YET FOR THE
2017 GIRL'S TEAM.
PLEASE RESPOND ASAP.
THANK YOU!
2017 GIRL'S TEAM.
PLEASE RESPOND ASAP.
THANK YOU!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DID ANYONE RECEIVE AN EMAIL YET FOR THE
2017 GIRL'S TEAM.
PLEASE RESPOND ASAP.
THANK YOU!
2017 GIRL'S TEAM.
PLEASE RESPOND ASAP.
THANK YOU!
Two teams - no cuts
Does anybody know which color is the "A" or "B" teams for the girls?
Anyone know which of these 2016 teams are A, B, C...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
8th graders are practicing.
yes, 8th grade (2017 Terps) have had a few practices and are playing in MD this weekend.
BLUE IS A
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anybody know which color is the "A" or "B" teams for the girls?
Express girls is equal talent wise to the L I Waves. Take that anyway you want it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anybody know which color is the "A" or "B" teams for the girls?
Express girls is equal talent wise to the L I Waves. Take that anyway you want it.
Does that mean that express and wave are good, mediocre, not so good? Are you comparing top express teams with wave or B and C teams? Thank you
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anybody know which color is the "A" or "B" teams for the girls?
Express girls is equal talent wise to the L I Waves. Take that anyway you want it.
Does that mean that express and wave are good, mediocre, not so good? Are you comparing top express teams with wave or B and C teams? Thank you
Express 17/18 and Wave 17/18 are equivilant to town ball, same as Wave. Save your money. Better off trying a new team like 91.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express 17/18 and Wave 17/18 are equivilant to town ball, same as Wave. Save your money. Better off trying a new team like 91.
Thanks,where would beach bums and lady outlaws fall in your opinion for same age group?
I am not the previous poster with information regarding the Wave but I can tell you about our Beach Bums experience with 2018 team. They played against/ with the Express girls at a few tournaments last summer. I can say the games were competitive and the Express team and the Beach Bum team in that age bracket had similar results against the same competitors. That being said I can speak of our family's overall experience with the Beach Bums team. My daughter grew as a player, we loved her coach and the director and there was an overall comfortable and encouraging feeling at all practices and games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am not the previous poster with information regarding the Wave but I can tell you about our Beach Bums experience with 2018 team. They played against/ with the Express girls at a few tournaments last summer. I can say the games were competitive and the Express team and the Beach Bum team in that age bracket had similar results against the same competitors. That being said I can speak of our family's overall experience with the Beach Bums team. My daughter grew as a player, we loved her coach and the director and there was an overall comfortable and encouraging feeling at all practices and games.
The beach bums is a joke of an organization . The director of the beach bums sent his daughter and 3 other girls from his 2016 team to the yellow jackets. To him it is all about money. Read the beach bum rip curls merge due to lack of girls. Stay away from that program
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am not the previous poster with information regarding the Wave but I can tell you about our Beach Bums experience with 2018 team. They played against/ with the Express girls at a few tournaments last summer. I can say the games were competitive and the Express team and the Beach Bum team in that age bracket had similar results against the same competitors. That being said I can speak of our family's overall experience with the Beach Bums team. My daughter grew as a player, we loved her coach and the director and there was an overall comfortable and encouraging feeling at all practices and games.
Thank you very much.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
8th graders are practicing.
yes, 8th grade (2017 Terps) have had a few practices and are playing in MD this weekend.
Any updates on express teams this weekend in fall tournaments?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
8th graders are practicing.
yes, 8th grade (2017 Terps) have had a few practices and are playing in MD this weekend.
Any updates on express teams this weekend in fall tournaments?
Brine Indian Summer Lacrosse Tournament
2017 Terps U15A Champions
2018 Terps U13A Champions
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
8th graders are practicing.
yes, 8th grade (2017 Terps) have had a few practices and are playing in MD this weekend.
Any updates on express teams this weekend in fall tournaments?
Brine Indian Summer Lacrosse Tournament
2017 Terps U15A Champions
2018 Terps U13A Champions
Impressive. I heard a couple of strong maryland clubs where in those brackets in 8th grade division, anyone know either of those two Terp Express teams records where in that tournament?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
8th graders are practicing.
yes, 8th grade (2017 Terps) have had a few practices and are playing in MD this weekend.
Any updates on express teams this weekend in fall tournaments?
Brine Indian Summer Lacrosse Tournament
2017 Terps U15A Champions
2018 Terps U13A Champions
Impressive. I heard a couple of strong maryland clubs where in those brackets in 8th grade division, anyone know either of those two Terp Express teams records where in that tournament?
both teams went 4 - 0
Is this the 2017 team that Express brought to the Hills Autism event over the summer?
No big names in tournament. go look up go they played. no other long island teams there. Orange 91 and fl$ ARE BETTER THEN THE TEAMS THEY PLAYED.
Breakers
Rock Lacrosse
PhilY
What top team did they play? seems like a waste of gas to me. How about beating 91, fl$, Turtles,first.
Rock Lacrosse
PhilY
What top team did they play? seems like a waste of gas to me. How about beating 91, fl$, Turtles,first.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is this the 2017 team that Express brought to the Hills Autism event over the summer?
Yes, just about minus 2 or 3 players with a few added. but the core of them are 2017 Terps.
91 Girls program is a joke
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
8th graders are practicing.
yes, 8th grade (2017 Terps) have had a few practices and are playing in MD this weekend.
Any updates on express teams this weekend in fall tournaments?
Brine Indian Summer Lacrosse Tournament
2017 Terps U15A Champions
2018 Terps U13A Champions
I thought 2016 was U15A. Will this team go to the Florida tournament? I heard turtles might play their way in at a regional tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No big names in tournament. go look up go they played. no other long island teams there. Orange 91 and fl$ ARE BETTER THEN THE TEAMS THEY PLAYED.
LMAO. You people are nuts! 91? fl$? But a u15 Breakers team stinks?? Team 83 u15 stinks? Philly Freedom sinks? Tghink outside LI and do your HOMEWORK.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No big names in tournament. go look up go they played. no other long island teams there. Orange 91 and fl$ ARE BETTER THEN THE TEAMS THEY PLAYED.
your right 91 "battled" such tough comp (like Docs & Thunder) in Hofstra & Halloween tournament . Express was in a 15A BRACKET with MD teams (thats always easy!!).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
8th graders are practicing.
yes, 8th grade (2017 Terps) have had a few practices and are playing in MD this weekend.
Any updates on express teams this weekend in fall tournaments?
Brine Indian Summer Lacrosse Tournament
2017 Terps U15A Champions
2018 Terps U13A Champions
I thought 2016 was U15A. Will this team go to the Florida tournament? I heard turtles might play their way in at a regional tournament.
it is a 2016 age (u15). Terps 2017 played up was on the younger end, didn't matter from what i heard.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Breakers
Rock Lacrosse
PhilY
What top team did they play? seems like a waste of gas to me. How about beating 91, fl$, Turtles,first.
Rock Lacrosse
PhilY
What top team did they play? seems like a waste of gas to me. How about beating 91, fl$, Turtles,first.
Breakers are a legit team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No big names in tournament. go look up go they played. no other long island teams there. Orange 91 and fl$ ARE BETTER THEN THE TEAMS THEY PLAYED.
Guess your son did not make the cut, oh well at least we wasted gas
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No big names in tournament. go look up go they played. no other long island teams there. Orange 91 and fl$ ARE BETTER THEN THE TEAMS THEY PLAYED.
Guess your son did not make the cut, oh well at least we wasted gas
2017 terps are a good team, however how do any of you accept "C" players on your team. We all know who. Do they flip the bill for the gas money?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Breakers
Rock Lacrosse
PhilY
What top team did they play? seems like a waste of gas to me. How about beating 91, fl$, Turtles,first.
Rock Lacrosse
PhilY
What top team did they play? seems like a waste of gas to me. How about beating 91, fl$, Turtles,first.
Breakers are a legit team.
True. Terps '17 beat them by a good amount maybe like 8
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No big names in tournament. go look up go they played. no other long island teams there. Orange 91 and fl$ ARE BETTER THEN THE TEAMS THEY PLAYED.
Guess your son did not make the cut, oh well at least we wasted gas
2017 terps are a good team, however how do any of you accept "C" players on your team. We all know who. Do they flip the bill for the gas money?
As a parent of a son who plays on the 2017 Terp team, I can honestly say there are no C players on this team. I find it offensive that a grown adult would say some players are C players and should not be there? Be an adult, be a parent and perhaps your child will work harder and realize your goals, have you stopped to ask his? We witnessed a total team effort this weekend, not one member of the team played selfish, everyone had a hand in the victory's and I say well done TERPS. At the end of the day everything happens for a reason perhaps looking in the mirror you will find the answer.
Between 7th and 9th grade, many kids kids change. Some A players move down, B and C move up. All about commitment, training and hard work. Those of you that have older kids are familiar with this trend.
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No big names in tournament. go look up go they played. no other long island teams there. Orange 91 and fl$ ARE BETTER THEN THE TEAMS THEY PLAYED.
Guess your son did not make the cut, oh well at least we wasted gas
2017 terps are a good team, however how do any of you accept "C" players on your team. We all know who. Do they flip the bill for the gas money?
As a parent of a son who plays on the 2017 Terp team, I can honestly say there are no C players on this team. I find it offensive that a grown adult would say some players are C players and should not be there? Be an adult, be a parent and perhaps your child will work harder and realize your goals, have you stopped to ask his? We witnessed a total team effort this weekend, not one member of the team played selfish, everyone had a hand in the victory's and I say well done TERPS. At the end of the day everything happens for a reason perhaps looking in the mirror you will find the answer.
Crimi team was c+ at best, think hard. Your mirror is broken
Please don't give parenting advice or assume anything about my child as I have not given you any or assumed anything about yours
Regardless, congrats on the win and good luck this year
That's not true. Maybe 7 give or take are from the old team. The rest are new players from other teams.
No. Mostly new players
Not sure about that. A bunch of new players this year.
Originally Posted by LAXER DAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No big names in tournament. go look up go they played. no other long island teams there. Orange 91 and fl$ ARE BETTER THEN THE TEAMS THEY PLAYED.
Guess your son did not make the cut, oh well at least we wasted gas
2017 terps are a good team, however how do any of you accept "C" players on your team. We all know who. Do they flip the bill for the gas money?
As a parent of a son who plays on the 2017 Terp team, I can honestly say there are no C players on this team. I find it offensive that a grown adult would say some players are C players and should not be there? Be an adult, be a parent and perhaps your child will work harder and realize your goals, have you stopped to ask his? We witnessed a total team effort this weekend, not one member of the team played selfish, everyone had a hand in the victory's and I say well done TERPS. At the end of the day everything happens for a reason perhaps looking in the mirror you will find the answer.
Don't break your arm trying to pat yourself on the back. Express Orange is a very talented team, no one can dispute that. But open your eyes, there are several kids on the team that are there for reasons other than their playing ability and everyone knows it, get over yourself
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's not true. Maybe 7 give or take are from the old team. The rest are new players from other teams.
Straight up lie, should I list all the kids that were Express Orange or Piranhas from last year? Why lie. Don't get it!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's not true. Maybe 7 give or take are from the old team. The rest are new players from other teams.
Straight up lie, should I list all the kids that were Express Orange or Piranhas from last year? Why lie. Don't get it!
Maybe the person isn't lying, maybe he or she just doesn't know. No secrets at all, 10 or 11 from last years Express Orange, 3 or 4 from last years Piranhas and players from fl$, Trueblue, Outlaws and GC. Now they are a TEAM called express 2017 terps. Your right, you don't "get it".
Unfortunate but true, one of the directors had a nice long chat with us about the finances of a few parents, along with which mothers he found attractive. FYI those kids made the A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunate but true, one of the directors had a nice long chat with us about the finances of a few parents, along with which mothers he found attractive. FYI those kids made the A team.
NICE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunate but true, one of the directors had a nice long chat with us about the finances of a few parents, along with which mothers he found attractive. FYI those kids made the A team.
Sooooo true!!!!!
Not sure why you are being so defensive. I was only stating what one of last years parents was saying. What does it matter anyway?
Are you 12? Growup!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunate but true, one of the directors had a nice long chat with us about the finances of a few parents, along with which mothers he found attractive. FYI those kids made the A team.
One of the DIRECTORS had a nice long conversation with YOU regarding this? Why do I find this hard to believe?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunate but true, one of the directors had a nice long chat with us about the finances of a few parents, along with which mothers he found attractive. FYI those kids made the A team.
my finances are my own business and my kid is not a very good player but my wife is pretty attractive and my kid made the team, had a big scrap with my wife last night about what she might have done to get my kid on the team....seeing a lawyer today, thanks for the heads up
Hey, My Wife is hot and we are on a Blue team... What gives.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunate but true, one of the directors had a nice long chat with us about the finances of a few parents, along with which mothers he found attractive. FYI those kids made the A team.
my finances are my own business and my kid is not a very good player but my wife is pretty attractive and my kid made the team, had a big scrap with my wife last night about what she might have done to get my kid on the team....seeing a lawyer today, thanks for the heads up
lol!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunate but true, one of the directors had a nice long chat with us about the finances of a few parents, along with which mothers he found attractive. FYI those kids made the A team.
my finances are my own business and my kid is not a very good player but my wife is pretty attractive and my kid made the team, had a big scrap with my wife last night about what she might have done to get my kid on the team....seeing a lawyer today, thanks for the heads up
Now thats funny stuff:)
Brings a whole new meaning to Directors couch
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey, My Wife is hot and we are on a Blue team... What gives.
I will be private coaching any Moms who wish their kids to be on the A team. We will cover everything necessary to master the all-important directors meeting. Practices will be held M, W, F with reasonable rates. Lololol.
so here's a question with Express now hosting a tournament will team 91 participate or be out of town that weekend even though at 1,500 bucks its pretty steep .
Does any one really care?
is that Tri-State weekend?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
is that Tri-State weekend?
TriState Usually is about that time
Originally Posted by Anonymous
so here's a question with Express now hosting a tournament will team 91 participate or be out of town that weekend even though at 1,500 bucks its pretty steep .
You mean like last years Express tournament that was cancelled?
Are they running a summer tournament ? What is it called and what is the date ? Thanks
I guess Express is not doing Tri-State anymore?
LIE 7/6 and 7/7
Tri State 7/12 - 7/14
Tri State 7/12 - 7/14
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Great job Express Directors at giving kudo's to the boys who played in a fall tourney. How about communicating to the rest of the teams/players - would love to meet the team and the coachs!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great job Express Directors at giving kudo's to the boys who played in a fall tourney. How about communicating to the rest of the teams/players - would love to meet the team and the coachs!
News flash. Thanks very much for your donationin supporting the chosen ones.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great job Express Directors at giving kudo's to the boys who played in a fall tourney. How about communicating to the rest of the teams/players - would love to meet the team and the coachs!
News flash. Thanks very much for your donationin supporting the chosen ones.
If your not on Orange you are really not part of Express. Plain and simple. You are an after thought
Well you didn't miss much today anyhow , the 4th and 5th grade express were not at their best against the main competition.
Should have followed the few who made a smart choice .
News flash. Thanks very much for your donationin supporting the chosen ones.
If your not on Orange you are really not part of Express. Plain and simple. You are an after thought
Should have followed the few who made a smart choice .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great job Express Directors at giving kudo's to the boys who played in a fall tourney. How about communicating to the rest of the teams/players - would love to meet the team and the coachs!
News flash. Thanks very much for your donationin supporting the chosen ones.
If your not on Orange you are really not part of Express. Plain and simple. You are an after thought
Not at there best they got beat up on by town teams . Express should be ashamed of themselves how something so good has gone so wrong$$$$$$$$
results for skull and bones tournament posted any where?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not at there best they got beat up on by town teams . Express should be ashamed of themselves how something so good has gone so wrong$$$$$$$$
There were a number of Express teams playing which ones lost and to who?
well like to chime in on this one , but my sons express 4th grade was humiliated buy west islip and from what it looked like a 91 team who ran high score up and never stopped until final whistle and nevermind our last game !, just wasnt a great day for these boys, and certainly the club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not at there best they got beat up on by town teams . Express should be ashamed of themselves how something so good has gone so wrong$$$$$$$$
Crush crushed the almighty orange !
Gotta love it !
There were a number of Express teams playing which ones lost and to who?
Gotta love it !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not at there best they got beat up on by town teams . Express should be ashamed of themselves how something so good has gone so wrong$$$$$$$$
There were a number of Express teams playing which ones lost and to who?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crush crushed the almighty orange !
Gotta love it !
There were a number of Express teams playing which ones lost and to who?
Gotta love it !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not at there best they got beat up on by town teams . Express should be ashamed of themselves how something so good has gone so wrong$$$$$$$$
There were a number of Express teams playing which ones lost and to who?
Wow this is 4th grade? You people need to get a grip
5th grade!
Wow this is 4th grade? You people need to get a grip
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crush crushed the almighty orange !
Gotta love it !
There were a number of Express teams playing which ones lost and to who?
Gotta love it !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not at there best they got beat up on by town teams . Express should be ashamed of themselves how something so good has gone so wrong$$$$$$$$
There were a number of Express teams playing which ones lost and to who?
Wow this is 4th grade? You people need to get a grip
does anyone realize that directors at Express are the main reason for all this hostility . they created this elite lacrosse program that was blowing people out for years. as a result other teams are looking to blow them out every chance they get.
4th grade !!!! TERRIBLE TAKING PEOPLES MONEY LIKE THAT $$$$$$
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone realize that directors at Express are the main reason for all this hostility . they created this elite lacrosse program that was blowing people out for years. as a result other teams are looking to blow them out every chance they get.
This's is funny. Why don't you tell us what long island teams compete with express from eighth grade up. Who cares about 4th thru 7th grade. These are years to improve and put your son in the right situation to excell in high school. Gloat on your wins at this age. I"ll be waiting for your post's three years from now
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone realize that directors at Express are the main reason for all this hostility . they created this elite lacrosse program that was blowing people out for years. as a result other teams are looking to blow them out every chance they get.
This's is funny. Why don't you tell us what long island teams compete with express from eighth grade up. Who cares about 4th thru 7th grade. These are years to improve and put your son in the right situation to excell in high school. Gloat on your wins at this age. I"ll be waiting for your post's three years from now
Reason those older teams are better is because Express was the only choice a few years back. Now that there are other teams or choices the talent pool is catching up. I think you will see that the younger teams that are beating kids of the same age now will beat them later. Talent is talent. If a kid has it he has it. Plain and simple sorry Johnny who works hard but doesnt have the athletic talent are stories for the movies like Rudy. One of my all time favorites by the way.This happens once in a lifetime thats why they make movies out of those stories. Yes the older Express teams are good thats because they were the team beating everyone in 4th and 5th grade and have been playing together since then. Times are changing. Its funny when people say its only 5th grade but with all these kids specializing a 5th graders talent level is that of and 8th grader 10-15 years ago. The kids stick skills and game savy of today are well beyond their years.
The skill of your program at the older age group is not any differ then most the 4th and 5th graders at the present time , the only difference is the size !! plain and simple. times have changed since. express is no longer the only show in town , 91 has surpassed your talent level at the younger age group and will be above and beyond when they reach the older age group of your caliber. like anything else all great things come to a end , one chapter closes another opens. For those haters from express who cant get over kids making a switch to a better program , be careful how big your mouth opens , because the day you make that smart decision to come over , it will bite you right in the [lacrosse] !
You know who you are!
This's is funny. Why don't you tell us what long island teams compete with express from eighth grade up. Who cares about 4th thru 7th grade. These are years to improve and put your son in the right situation to excell in high school. Gloat on your wins at this age. I"ll be waiting for your post's three years from now
You know who you are!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone realize that directors at Express are the main reason for all this hostility . they created this elite lacrosse program that was blowing people out for years. as a result other teams are looking to blow them out every chance they get.
This's is funny. Why don't you tell us what long island teams compete with express from eighth grade up. Who cares about 4th thru 7th grade. These are years to improve and put your son in the right situation to excell in high school. Gloat on your wins at this age. I"ll be waiting for your post's three years from now
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone realize that directors at Express are the main reason for all this hostility . they created this elite lacrosse program that was blowing people out for years. as a result other teams are looking to blow them out every chance they get.
This's is funny. Why don't you tell us what long island teams compete with express from eighth grade up. Who cares about 4th thru 7th grade. These are years to improve and put your son in the right situation to excell in high school. Gloat on your wins at this age. I"ll be waiting for your post's three years from now
Reason those older teams are better is because Express was the only choice a few years back. Now that there are other teams or choices the talent pool is catching up. I think you will see that the younger teams that are beating kids of the same age now will beat them later. Talent is talent. If a kid has it he has it. Plain and simple sorry Johnny who works hard but doesnt have the athletic talent are stories for the movies like Rudy. One of my all time favorites by the way.This happens once in a lifetime thats why they make movies out of those stories. Yes the older Express teams are good thats because they were the team beating everyone in 4th and 5th grade and have been playing together since then. Times are changing. Its funny when people say its only 5th grade but with all these kids specializing a 5th graders talent level is that of and 8th grader 10-15 years ago. The kids stick skills and game savy of today are well beyond their years.
Once puberty comes all bets are off. Then put catholic school in the mix express will still thrive. No program with the exception of the crabs gets more kids looked at as express. Look at the 2016 team a little over a year ago they were terrible now mile c puts a team together at 2017 believe me express will always get the best players when it counts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
5th grade!
Wow this is 4th grade? You people need to get a grip
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crush crushed the almighty orange !
Gotta love it !
There were a number of Express teams playing which ones lost and to who?
Gotta love it !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not at there best they got beat up on by town teams . Express should be ashamed of themselves how something so good has gone so wrong$$$$$$$$
There were a number of Express teams playing which ones lost and to who?
Wow this is 4th grade? You people need to get a grip
Did they play in the championship game?
"because they were the team beating everyone in 4th and 5th grade and have been playing together since then."
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
They got blown away this weekend
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"because they were the team beating everyone in 4th and 5th grade and have been playing together since then."
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This is what will happen. If the superstars of today's 5th grade are still the superstars in 8th grade they will be individually "invited" to play as a "temporary" team in a tournament after the regular summer circuit is finished. The kids and the parents will feel flattered about being invited to this "all star" team, the hard sell about recruiting will be made and presto - you have the new 9th grade Express Orange. Happens every year now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"because they were the team beating everyone in 4th and 5th grade and have been playing together since then."
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
You really need to look at things in an unbiased way. How long has Express been around. That's one of the main reasons they are as successful as they are. In regards to National title I am running an all world tournament at Disney whoever wins will be the all world team. I won't have any true play in tournaments so first cone first serve. No disrespect to the quality of team that the 2015 team is. They are a great team but what was the governing body that decided this national champion? Did all the best teams really play in the tournament? Come on guy! You buying that cool aide they selling at a $2400 a glass. I gotta bridge for sale too.
Now to the other guy who is talking about The Turtles 2016 as if they were an Express team. Wake up. Get your facts straight. Turtles are an Express team as much as Mark Sanchez is going to lead the Jets to the super bowl this year. Directors might be paying them to say their affiliated. It's a joke for those who read things only in a literal sense. Do you know how Turtles were formed, why, and by who? I do.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
well like to chime in on this one , but my sons express 4th grade was humiliated buy west islip and from what it looked like a 91 team who ran high score up and never stopped until final whistle and nevermind our last game !, just wasnt a great day for these boys, and certainly the club.
Isn't the 2021 Express coach a West Islip guy with 4-5 WI kids on the Express team? How did that work out?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"because they were the team beating everyone in 4th and 5th grade and have been playing together since then."
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
You really need to look at things in an unbiased way. How long has Express been around. That's one of the main reasons they are as successful as they are. In regards to National title I am running an all world tournament at Disney whoever wins will be the all world team. I won't have any true play in tournaments so first cone first serve. No disrespect to the quality of team that the 2015 team is. They are a great team but what was the governing body that decided this national champion? Did all the best teams really play in the tournament? Come on guy! You buying that cool aide they selling at a $2400 a glass. I gotta bridge for sale too.
Now to the other guy who is talking about The Turtles 2016 as if they were an Express team. Wake up. Get your facts straight. Turtles are an Express team as much as Mark Sanchez is going to lead the Jets to the super bowl this year. Directors might be paying them to say their affiliated. It's a joke for those who read things only in a literal sense. Do you know how Turtles were formed, why, and by who? I do.
Mr Turtle expert, do tell us all how the turtles were started and by who! One more thing to u Mr Turtle expert, they are NOT a 2016 team, they are a 2017 team! But you are they expert.
I forgot...Where on the turtle uniform is the Express logo or the name.....oh yea NO Where.....Express and Lax Unlim are in a business relationship, each using the other...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"because they were the team beating everyone in 4th and 5th grade and have been playing together since then."
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This is what will happen. If the superstars of today's 5th grade are still the superstars in 8th grade they will be individually "invited" to play as a "temporary" team in a tournament after the regular summer circuit is finished. The kids and the parents will feel flattered about being invited to this "all star" team, the hard sell about recruiting will be made and presto - you have the new 9th grade Express Orange. Happens every year now.
Again, in the past these "superstars" wanted to play for the Express because there wasnt much else around. This years "temporary" team was put together and ALOT of "superstars" stayed where they were! There are other great options out there. Things change...Only time will tell
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"because they were the team beating everyone in 4th and 5th grade and have been playing together since then."
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This is what will happen. If the superstars of today's 5th grade are still the superstars in 8th grade they will be individually "invited" to play as a "temporary" team in a tournament after the regular summer circuit is finished. The kids and the parents will feel flattered about being invited to this "all star" team, the hard sell about recruiting will be made and presto - you have the new 9th grade Express Orange. Happens every year now.
Again, in the past these "superstars" wanted to play for the Express because there wasnt much else around. This years "temporary" team was put together and ALOT of "superstars" stayed where they were! There are other great options out there. Things change...Only time will tell
And if you are on the prior team before the "invited" come in you are probably toast and so is your investment in the program to that point.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"because they were the team beating everyone in 4th and 5th grade and have been playing together since then."
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This is what will happen. If the superstars of today's 5th grade are still the superstars in 8th grade they will be individually "invited" to play as a "temporary" team in a tournament after the regular summer circuit is finished. The kids and the parents will feel flattered about being invited to this "all star" team, the hard sell about recruiting will be made and presto - you have the new 9th grade Express Orange. Happens every year now.
Again, in the past these "superstars" wanted to play for the Express because there wasnt much else around. This years "temporary" team was put together and ALOT of "superstars" stayed where they were! There are other great options out there. Things change...Only time will tell
And if you are on the prior team before the "invited" come in you are probably toast and so is your investment in the program to that point.
Investment in the program??? Its an investment in your child's development. People are attracted to the express because they have a track record of increasing player exposure to the top academic Universities in the country. Its up to you and your child to put the work in and get better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"because they were the team beating everyone in 4th and 5th grade and have been playing together since then."
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
You really need to look at things in an unbiased way. How long has Express been around. That's one of the main reasons they are as successful as they are. In regards to National title I am running an all world tournament at Disney whoever wins will be the all world team. I won't have any true play in tournaments so first cone first serve. No disrespect to the quality of team that the 2015 team is. They are a great team but what was the governing body that decided this national champion? Did all the best teams really play in the tournament? Come on guy! You buying that cool aide they selling at a $2400 a glass. I gotta bridge for sale too.
Now to the other guy who is talking about The Turtles 2016 as if they were an Express team. Wake up. Get your facts straight. Turtles are an Express team as much as Mark Sanchez is going to lead the Jets to the super bowl this year. Directors might be paying them to say their affiliated. It's a joke for those who read things only in a literal sense. Do you know how Turtles were formed, why, and by who? I do.
Mr Turtle expert, do tell us all how the turtles were started and by who! One more thing to u Mr Turtle expert, they are NOT a 2016 team, they are a 2017 team! But you are they expert.
Yes you are correct they are a 2017 team sorry for the typo. But what's your rebuttal to them really not being an Express team. None! Only thing is my typo. Joke. Like a cornered animal attack! Like a previous post said a marriage of convenience! No other facts about anything else I said. Here are some facts about turtles they were put together by a very smart man who owns a great lax co to play in a tournament. Had no affiliations to express in the tournament but were a group of elite players from different teams. They were so successful that they decided to stay together. The tenacious turtles were born. Directors at Express as smart as they are saw the potential of this team and absorbed them. That's their history in a nut shell if I am wrong I will eat some humble pie.
To the guy taking shots at the 2015 Express Orange: your statements are absurd. They beat the Baltimore Crabs. They were one of the only teams to beat Dukes this past summer. they lost the the West Coast Starz by one goal. They dominated an FCA team that already has around 6 or 7 division 1 commits. They have routinely beaten fl$ over the last two years (fl$ has four or five of the best players in the country). who else do you want Express Orange to play/beat?
Kool aid? bridge to sell? You are really demonstrating that you really have no facts. I can only guess that your 5th grader is your oldest. No facts/no perspective.
Kool aid? bridge to sell? You are really demonstrating that you really have no facts. I can only guess that your 5th grader is your oldest. No facts/no perspective.
Think you need to read more posts. 2015 team is great as I said but the tournament is a self appointed national champion. No criteria for the National Champion title. Express is a great program but others are catching up. Options are good. If we had no options we would not have all the talent we have on long island. express does have a great history of placing players into the best lax programs but as other clubs mature so will they. Express has its ties to the St.Anthonys and Chaminade which are two if the vest programs around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes you are correct they are a 2017 team sorry for the typo. But what's your rebuttal to them really not being an Express team. None! Only thing is my typo. Joke. Like a cornered animal attack! Like a previous post said a marriage of convenience! No other facts about anything else I said. Here are some facts about turtles they were put together by a very smart man who owns a great lax co to play in a tournament. Had no affiliations to express in the tournament but were a group of elite players from different teams. They were so successful that they decided to stay together. The tenacious turtles were born. Directors at Express as smart as they are saw the potential of this team and absorbed them. That's their history in a nut shell if I am wrong I will eat some humble pie.
Where would you like it delivered? Your interpretation of the relationship is incorrect, you don't have the facts other than yes they are a good team, the coach, and they play for the express. And ps who the [lacrosse] cares how they came to playing under the express umbrella? If it works for them then so be it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"because they were the team beating everyone in 4th and 5th grade and have been playing together since then."
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This statement is absolutely inaccurate with respect to the 2014 and 2015 Express teams. Those teams did not come together until the 7th or 8th grade. For the record, the 2014 team has 14 players committed to Div 1 schools. The 2015 Express Orange team just won the U15 national championship and is easily one of the top 3 or 4 2015 teams in the US. You really don't know what you are talking about. Nevertheless, enjoy your son's 5th grade team.
This is what will happen. If the superstars of today's 5th grade are still the superstars in 8th grade they will be individually "invited" to play as a "temporary" team in a tournament after the regular summer circuit is finished. The kids and the parents will feel flattered about being invited to this "all star" team, the hard sell about recruiting will be made and presto - you have the new 9th grade Express Orange. Happens every year now.
Again, in the past these "superstars" wanted to play for the Express because there wasnt much else around. This years "temporary" team was put together and ALOT of "superstars" stayed where they were! There are other great options out there. Things change...Only time will tell
And if you are on the prior team before the "invited" come in you are probably toast and so is your investment in the program to that point.
Burnt toast if you are not going to St Anthony or Chaminade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Yes you are correct they are a 2017 team sorry for the typo. But what's your rebuttal to them really not being an Express team. None! Only thing is my typo. Joke. Like a cornered animal attack! Like a previous post said a marriage of convenience! No other facts about anything else I said. Here are some facts about turtles they were put together by a very smart man who owns a great lax co to play in a tournament. Had no affiliations to express in the tournament but were a group of elite players from different teams. They were so successful that they decided to stay together. The tenacious turtles were born. Directors at Express as smart as they are saw the potential of this team and absorbed them. That's their history in a nut shell if I am wrong I will eat some humble pie. [/quote
Where would you like it delivered? Your interpretation of the relationship is incorrect, you don't have the facts other than yes they are a good team, the coach, and they play for the express. And ps who the [lacrosse] cares how they came to playing under the express umbrella? If it works for them then so be it.
Where would you like it delivered? Your interpretation of the relationship is incorrect, you don't have the facts other than yes they are a good team, the coach, and they play for the express. And ps who the [lacrosse] cares how they came to playing under the express umbrella? If it works for them then so be it.
Tell me where is there an Express logo or anything that has to do with Express. tell me what I gave wrong. Since you are all knowing! I explained what I have been told by someone who is involved with the team. Don't be so angry. It's ok.
Tell me where is there an Express logo or anything that has to do with Express. tell me what I gave wrong. Since you are all knowing! I explained what I have been told by someone who is involved with the team. Don't be so angry. It's ok.
Then they my friend are also mis or under informed. The turtles are a happy member of the Express family. And its not anger its confusion of why someone would come on here and talk about something they do not know about. enjoy the pie!
Then they my friend are also mis or under informed. The turtles are a happy member of the Express family. And its not anger its confusion of why someone would come on here and talk about something they do not know about. enjoy the pie!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Yes you are correct they are a 2017 team sorry for the typo. But what's your rebuttal to them really not being an Express team. None! Only thing is my typo. Joke. Like a cornered animal attack! Like a previous post said a marriage of convenience! No other facts about anything else I said. Here are some facts about turtles they were put together by a very smart man who owns a great lax co to play in a tournament. Had no affiliations to express in the tournament but were a group of elite players from different teams. They were so successful that they decided to stay together. The tenacious turtles were born. Directors at Express as smart as they are saw the potential of this team and absorbed them. That's their history in a nut shell if I am wrong I will eat some humble pie. [/quote
Where would you like it delivered? Your interpretation of the relationship is incorrect, you don't have the facts other than yes they are a good team, the coach, and they play for the express. And ps who the [lacrosse] cares how they came to playing under the express umbrella? If it works for them then so be it.
Where would you like it delivered? Your interpretation of the relationship is incorrect, you don't have the facts other than yes they are a good team, the coach, and they play for the express. And ps who the [lacrosse] cares how they came to playing under the express umbrella? If it works for them then so be it.
Tell me where is there an Express logo or anything that has to do with Express. tell me what I gave wrong. Since you are all knowing! I explained what I have been told by someone who is involved with the team. Don't be so angry. It's ok.
try their website as well as any listing in any tournament they play. Nuf said move on and focus on all the great teams representing LI everywhere.
Any 2016 parents here? Just saw the schedule for the Fall Terrapin Classic, and there are three LI Express 2016 teams listed.
LI Express Terps 16
LI Express P 16
LI Express B 16
Does anyone know what the difference is between these three teams? Thanks.
LI Express Terps 16
LI Express P 16
LI Express B 16
Does anyone know what the difference is between these three teams? Thanks.
It didnt work out !
Atleast for Express.
Isn't the 2021 Express coach a West Islip guy with 4-5 WI kids on the Express team? How did that work out?
Atleast for Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
well like to chime in on this one , but my sons express 4th grade was humiliated buy west islip and from what it looked like a 91 team who ran high score up and never stopped until final whistle and nevermind our last game !, just wasnt a great day for these boys, and certainly the club.
Isn't the 2021 Express coach a West Islip guy with 4-5 WI kids on the Express team? How did that work out?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tell me where is there an Express logo or anything that has to do with Express. tell me what I gave wrong. Since you are all knowing! I explained what I have been told by someone who is involved with the team. Don't be so angry. It's ok.
Then they my friend are also mis or under informed. The turtles are a happy member of the Express family. And its not anger its confusion of why someone would come on here and talk about something they do not know about. enjoy the pie!
Then they my friend are also mis or under informed. The turtles are a happy member of the Express family. And its not anger its confusion of why someone would come on here and talk about something they do not know about. enjoy the pie!
Enjoy what pie?
I believe that "P" is Pirhanas and "B" is Barracudas.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It didnt work out !
Atleast for Express.
Isn't the 2021 Express coach a West Islip guy with 4-5 WI kids on the Express team? How did that work out?
Atleast for Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
well like to chime in on this one , but my sons express 4th grade was humiliated buy west islip and from what it looked like a 91 team who ran high score up and never stopped until final whistle and nevermind our last game !, just wasnt a great day for these boys, and certainly the club.
Isn't the 2021 Express coach a West Islip guy with 4-5 WI kids on the Express team? How did that work out?
The 2021 and 2022 li express is a joke, they should man-up and just make these teams developmental instead of billing them as elite travel teams. In both cases they had trouts but took everyone who tried out, in the case of 2022 they are still trying to fill the team by recruiting 8 year olds who take clinics at sports hub. All of this wouldn't be so bad except they are charging the same as the older teams and if you think the cost is really $1,500 you are crazy because everything is a la carte. The helmets, shooting shirts, tournaments, leagues is all additional. Now this may seem like a li express bashing email but in fact I don't think there is any argument that their older team are excellent and in most cases well coached. My point is that if you want additional instruction for your 8-9 year old there are great clinics, leagues, private lessons etc. alternatively if you want your son on a travel team that is committed to the team, is transparent about all the costs, practices often and reliably then there are those options also but li express, while although a great organization, should have some class and admit that they are not committed to the younger age groups. I assume this post will get some Johnny blows his nose or can't tie his shoes or you are a creep for speaking about 8-9 year olds but the truth is that 91, true blue, tomahawks, igloo, jesters, fl$ etc all offer some form of team or multiple teams at this age so the demand is there.
As a Express parent from this past weekend my sons 2021 team was spanked by everyone , Although town teams should not be able to compete against a travel elite team and win , this was disgusting. Yes the West Isip team has express players , but so did the Hills team who had a overwhelming amount of 91 players which you clearly saw the difference in the quality of how they played , VS express who yes does not put there effort in teaching these kids how to play like an elite player, it seems the West Islip kids have an advantage because there coach is the Express coach so more effort is placed into them then the rest of team. So sad that we fell for bait switch , which everyone spoke about how well express program is, in reality so far its a waste of time and alot of money, I must say although not a fan of 91 those group of players showed more initiative in the game which the final result proved effective !
Sorry to vent but the previous post set me off..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It didnt work out !
Atleast for Express.
Isn't the 2021 Express coach a West Islip guy with 4-5 WI kids on the Express team? How did that work out?
Atleast for Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
well like to chime in on this one , but my sons express 4th grade was humiliated buy west islip and from what it looked like a 91 team who ran high score up and never stopped until final whistle and nevermind our last game !, just wasnt a great day for these boys, and certainly the club.
Isn't the 2021 Express coach a West Islip guy with 4-5 WI kids on the Express team? How did that work out?
The 2021 and 2022 li express is a joke, they should man-up and just make these teams developmental instead of billing them as elite travel teams. In both cases they had trouts but took everyone who tried out, in the case of 2022 they are still trying to fill the team by recruiting 8 year olds who take clinics at sports hub. All of this wouldn't be so bad except they are charging the same as the older teams and if you think the cost is really $1,500 you are crazy because everything is a la carte. The helmets, shooting shirts, tournaments, leagues is all additional. Now this may seem like a li express bashing email but in fact I don't think there is any argument that their older team are excellent and in most cases well coached. My point is that if you want additional instruction for your 8-9 year old there are great clinics, leagues, private lessons etc. alternatively if you want your son on a travel team that is committed to the team, is transparent about all the costs, practices often and reliably then there are those options also but li express, while although a great organization, should have some class and admit that they are not committed to the younger age groups. I assume this post will get some Johnny blows his nose or can't tie his shoes or you are a creep for speaking about 8-9 year olds but the truth is that 91, true blue, tomahawks, igloo, jesters, fl$ etc all offer some form of team or multiple teams at this age so the demand is there.
Yes hills team had a few 91 kids because the coach is the 91 white coach, he took a few kids over to his team to keep things competitive , being from west Islip it would have been interesting to see the two teams go head to head against one another , but sure 91 and express will find a way to meet up in the upcoming season , and looking forward to see what club has a better team at that age group.
As a Express parent from this past weekend my sons 2021 team was spanked by everyone , Although town teams should not be able to compete against a travel elite team and win , this was disgusting. Yes the West Isip team has express players , but so did the Hills team who had a overwhelming amount of 91 players which you clearly saw the difference in the quality of how they played , VS express who yes does not put there effort in teaching these kids how to play like an elite player, it seems the West Islip kids have an advantage because there coach is the Express coach so more effort is placed into them then the rest of team. So sad that we fell for bait switch , which everyone spoke about how well express program is, in reality so far its a waste of time and alot of money, I must say although not a fan of 91 those group of players showed more initiative in the game which the final result proved effective !
Sorry to vent but the previous post set me off..
The 2021 and 2022 li express is a joke, they should man-up and just make these teams developmental instead of billing them as elite travel teams. In both cases they had trouts but took everyone who tried out, in the case of 2022 they are still trying to fill the team by recruiting 8 year olds who take clinics at sports hub. All of this wouldn't be so bad except they are charging the same as the older teams and if you think the cost is really $1,500 you are crazy because everything is a la carte. The helmets, shooting shirts, tournaments, leagues is all additional. Now this may seem like a li express bashing email but in fact I don't think there is any argument that their older team are excellent and in most cases well coached. My point is that if you want additional instruction for your 8-9 year old there are great clinics, leagues, private lessons etc. alternatively if you want your son on a travel team that is committed to the team, is transparent about all the costs, practices often and reliably then there are those options also but li express, while although a great organization, should have some class and admit that they are not committed to the younger age groups. I assume this post will get some Johnny blows his nose or can't tie his shoes or you are a creep for speaking about 8-9 year olds but the truth is that 91, true blue, tomahawks, igloo, jesters, fl$ etc all offer some form of team or multiple teams at this age so the demand is there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a Express parent from this past weekend my sons 2021 team was spanked by everyone , Although town teams should not be able to compete against a travel elite team and win , this was disgusting. Yes the West Isip team has express players , but so did the Hills team who had a overwhelming amount of 91 players which you clearly saw the difference in the quality of how they played , VS express who yes does not put there effort in teaching these kids how to play like an elite player, it seems the West Islip kids have an advantage because there coach is the Express coach so more effort is placed into them then the rest of team. So sad that we fell for bait switch , which everyone spoke about how well express program is, in reality so far its a waste of time and alot of money, I must say although not a fan of 91 those group of players showed more initiative in the game which the final result proved effective !
Sorry to vent but the previous post set me off..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It didnt work out !
Atleast for Express.
Isn't the 2021 Express coach a West Islip guy with 4-5 WI kids on the Express team? How did that work out?
Atleast for Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
well like to chime in on this one , but my sons express 4th grade was humiliated buy west islip and from what it looked like a 91 team who ran high score up and never stopped until final whistle and nevermind our last game !, just wasnt a great day for these boys, and certainly the club.
Isn't the 2021 Express coach a West Islip guy with 4-5 WI kids on the Express team? How did that work out?
The 2021 and 2022 li express is a joke, they should man-up and just make these teams developmental instead of billing them as elite travel teams. In both cases they had trouts but took everyone who tried out, in the case of 2022 they are still trying to fill the team by recruiting 8 year olds who take clinics at sports hub. All of this wouldn't be so bad except they are charging the same as the older teams and if you think the cost is really $1,500 you are crazy because everything is a la carte. The helmets, shooting shirts, tournaments, leagues is all additional. Now this may seem like a li express bashing email but in fact I don't think there is any argument that their older team are excellent and in most cases well coached. My point is that if you want additional instruction for your 8-9 year old there are great clinics, leagues, private lessons etc. alternatively if you want your son on a travel team that is committed to the team, is transparent about all the costs, practices often and reliably then there are those options also but li express, while although a great organization, should have some class and admit that they are not committed to the younger age groups. I assume this post will get some Johnny blows his nose or can't tie his shoes or you are a creep for speaking about 8-9 year olds but the truth is that 91, true blue, tomahawks, igloo, jesters, fl$ etc all offer some form of team or multiple teams at this age so the demand is there.
I have a kid on the 2020 B team. The level of play is excellent. The coaching is truly outstanding. I say this with the perspective of having played in college and coached youth for 8 years.
Is it worth the price? Judgement call. Maybe not at this age for most. I have older boys in the program. Worth it at the older ages.
I do think many B level players will go to other programs to find better value. Express does risk diluting the talent on the B teams.
At this age the goal is simply to develop fundamental skills and help the kids have fun. The money may be better spent buying high quality instructional videos, going to carefully selected summer camps and getting a few private instruction sessions.
Is it worth the price? Judgement call. Maybe not at this age for most. I have older boys in the program. Worth it at the older ages.
I do think many B level players will go to other programs to find better value. Express does risk diluting the talent on the B teams.
At this age the goal is simply to develop fundamental skills and help the kids have fun. The money may be better spent buying high quality instructional videos, going to carefully selected summer camps and getting a few private instruction sessions.
Word has it from a few higher ups from 91 , 2021 white is going to surpass their orange and is going to be the team most sought after to beat this year in that age bracket. So forget about express competing when they are not even close to that level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes hills team had a few 91 kids because the coach is the 91 white coach, he took a few kids over to his team to keep things competitive , being from west Islip it would have been interesting to see the two teams go head to head against one another , but sure 91 and express will find a way to meet up in the upcoming season , and looking forward to see what club has a better team at that age group.
As a Express parent from this past weekend my sons 2021 team was spanked by everyone , Although town teams should not be able to compete against a travel elite team and win , this was disgusting. Yes the West Isip team has express players , but so did the Hills team who had a overwhelming amount of 91 players which you clearly saw the difference in the quality of how they played , VS express who yes does not put there effort in teaching these kids how to play like an elite player, it seems the West Islip kids have an advantage because there coach is the Express coach so more effort is placed into them then the rest of team. So sad that we fell for bait switch , which everyone spoke about how well express program is, in reality so far its a waste of time and alot of money, I must say although not a fan of 91 those group of players showed more initiative in the game which the final result proved effective !
Sorry to vent but the previous post set me off..
The 2021 and 2022 li express is a joke, they should man-up and just make these teams developmental instead of billing them as elite travel teams. In both cases they had trouts but took everyone who tried out, in the case of 2022 they are still trying to fill the team by recruiting 8 year olds who take clinics at sports hub. All of this wouldn't be so bad except they are charging the same as the older teams and if you think the cost is really $1,500 you are crazy because everything is a la carte. The helmets, shooting shirts, tournaments, leagues is all additional. Now this may seem like a li express bashing email but in fact I don't think there is any argument that their older team are excellent and in most cases well coached. My point is that if you want additional instruction for your 8-9 year old there are great clinics, leagues, private lessons etc. alternatively if you want your son on a travel team that is committed to the team, is transparent about all the costs, practices often and reliably then there are those options also but li express, while although a great organization, should have some class and admit that they are not committed to the younger age groups. I assume this post will get some Johnny blows his nose or can't tie his shoes or you are a creep for speaking about 8-9 year olds but the truth is that 91, true blue, tomahawks, igloo, jesters, fl$ etc all offer some form of team or multiple teams at this age so the demand is there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a Express parent from this past weekend my sons 2021 team was spanked by everyone , Although town teams should not be able to compete against a travel elite team and win , this was disgusting. Yes the West Isip team has express players , but so did the Hills team who had a overwhelming amount of 91 players which you clearly saw the difference in the quality of how they played , VS express who yes does not put there effort in teaching these kids how to play like an elite player, it seems the West Islip kids have an advantage because there coach is the Express coach so more effort is placed into them then the rest of team. So sad that we fell for bait switch , which everyone spoke about how well express program is, in reality so far its a waste of time and alot of money, I must say although not a fan of 91 those group of players showed more initiative in the game which the final result proved effective !
Sorry to vent but the previous post set me off..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It didnt work out !
Atleast for Express.
Isn't the 2021 Express coach a West Islip guy with 4-5 WI kids on the Express team? How did that work out?
Atleast for Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
well like to chime in on this one , but my sons express 4th grade was humiliated buy west islip and from what it looked like a 91 team who ran high score up and never stopped until final whistle and nevermind our last game !, just wasnt a great day for these boys, and certainly the club.
Isn't the 2021 Express coach a West Islip guy with 4-5 WI kids on the Express team? How did that work out?
The 2021 and 2022 li express is a joke, they should man-up and just make these teams developmental instead of billing them as elite travel teams. In both cases they had trouts but took everyone who tried out, in the case of 2022 they are still trying to fill the team by recruiting 8 year olds who take clinics at sports hub. All of this wouldn't be so bad except they are charging the same as the older teams and if you think the cost is really $1,500 you are crazy because everything is a la carte. The helmets, shooting shirts, tournaments, leagues is all additional. Now this may seem like a li express bashing email but in fact I don't think there is any argument that their older team are excellent and in most cases well coached. My point is that if you want additional instruction for your 8-9 year old there are great clinics, leagues, private lessons etc. alternatively if you want your son on a travel team that is committed to the team, is transparent about all the costs, practices often and reliably then there are those options also but li express, while although a great organization, should have some class and admit that they are not committed to the younger age groups. I assume this post will get some Johnny blows his nose or can't tie his shoes or you are a creep for speaking about 8-9 year olds but the truth is that 91, true blue, tomahawks, igloo, jesters, fl$ etc all offer some form of team or multiple teams at this age so the demand is there.
Your sources are wrong. 91 orange 2021 has a very strong squad this year. Picked up a lot of new players and after having a year under their belts they should be successful. They will be one of the teams to beat this year.
Perhaps white will surpass orange at 91 but until a team in that age bracket beats Igloo, then Igloo is the team to beat. Igloo beat orange every time they met. Agreed, express is not even close to the level of either 91 team or igloo. As the original post said express 2021 and 2022 is a joke
Stirring the pot ?
Or Smoking pot?
Or is this a legit statement ?
Would be hilarious .
quote=Anonymous]Perhaps white will surpass orange at 91 but until a team in that age bracket beats Igloo, then Igloo is the team to beat. Igloo beat orange every time they met. Agreed, express is not even close to the level of either 91 team or igloo. As the original post said express 2021 and 2022 is a joke [/quote]
Or Smoking pot?
Or is this a legit statement ?
Would be hilarious .
quote=Anonymous]Perhaps white will surpass orange at 91 but until a team in that age bracket beats Igloo, then Igloo is the team to beat. Igloo beat orange every time they met. Agreed, express is not even close to the level of either 91 team or igloo. As the original post said express 2021 and 2022 is a joke [/quote]
Are you kidding> It is what 4th and 5th graders playing lacrosse
The orange 91 team will never be successful the coach needs to be replaced , he has not proved anything in his years of coaching , to much controversy on that team with his favorites , your wishful thinking that your team picked up the right combination will never come into play to have a winning team . I would agree with other post with igloo being the top team. Team Long Island has a possibility also picking up some ex orange 91 kids who didn't want to put up with the coaches [lacrosse] that he caused. As far as white 91 let's see what they bring this upcoming year , after all didn't they win a tournament this year ? There photo is on website , Where as orange did not ? .
Good luck to all, as far as express your forum seems to have been jacked with all competitive team talk except your team is not in ballpark.
Good luck to all, as far as express your forum seems to have been jacked with all competitive team talk except your team is not in ballpark.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your sources are wrong. 91 orange 2021 has a very strong squad this year. Picked up a lot of new players and after having a year under their belts they should be successful. They will be one of the teams to beat this year.
how did the express 2016 teams do at the fall terrapin classic sunday?
Still no match for Crabs. Competition in 2016 was weak otherwise.
Barracudas went 2 & 2. lost to Crabs who are the best out there right now and a 2014 team from Dallas. Not their best showing, but have plenty of time for improvement
Anyone know how did the Piranhas do?
Piranhas were a mix of 2014/2015/2016 and went 3-0-1. Tie was against VLC 2014 in a very physical game.
Anyone know what the future of the girls program is.I know that they had a lot of girls in the 2016 age group leave , the team was never top tier team but now seems they may not be able to field a barely competitive team.
Follow the Express Boys footsteps , Call 91 office i am sure they will accomodate adding great talent to their program. Express use to be the only show in town for girls , How times have changed !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what the future of the girls program is.I know that they had a lot of girls in the 2016 age group leave , the team was never top tier team but now seems they may not be able to field a barely competitive team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Piranhas were a mix of 2014/2015/2016 and went 3-0-1. Tie was against VLC 2014 in a very physical game.
VLC 2014 is an excellent team, one of the best 2014 teams in the country. And they were missing a bunch of guys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Piranhas were a mix of 2014/2015/2016 and went 3-0-1. Tie was against VLC 2014 in a very physical game.
VLC 2014 is an excellent team, one of the best 2014 teams in the country. And they were missing a bunch of guys.
Yeah, I heard that 17 of their best were not present.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Perhaps white will surpass orange at 91 but until a team in that age bracket beats Igloo, then Igloo is the team to beat. Igloo beat orange every time they met. Agreed, express is not even close to the level of either 91 team or igloo. As the original post said express 2021 and 2022 is a joke
.... a joke........
nice
Its a mess
Which LIE teams are playing at the Sound Shore Classic 11/18 at Fairfield U and which are going to the Greene Turtle Invitational? Good luck to all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Perhaps white will surpass orange at 91 but until a team in that age bracket beats Igloo, then Igloo is the team to beat. Igloo beat orange every time they met. Agreed, express is not even close to the level of either 91 team or igloo. As the original post said express 2021 and 2022 is a joke
.... a joke........
nice
The fact that they have 2021 & 2022 teams is the real joke, crazy parent rushing their kids into a train wreck at that age
How about entering into next Fridays games for travel teams on LI.
Let's stay home and have everyone come to us on long island and spend $ at our hotels and Resturant's .
When Li express , 91 , fl$ and these Long island select lacrosse teams stop conducting these club as a business , avoiding each other , parent stop the bragging rights of who beating who and act like adults ,maybe we will play each other on Long island ,at LONG ISLAND TOURNAMENT I.E (Long Island lax feast) .Teams this past year came from all over the country to attend ,this is a two day tournament .If all these top Long Island lacrosse lacrosse organizations would enter , more out of state lacrosse teams would come advertise it as the best of the best play on Long Island .
The location is perfect ,hotels in the area support the location , the local area would prosper .
Proposal to both organization
If 91 lacrosse would enter LI Express new tournament , then Long Island Express would enter Long Island lax feast .One hand washes the other . However it's bad business if one loses , it about the kids not the adults , put business aside for the benefit of the players and Long island we could use a boost .
Great to travel to places outside of long island to play non competative teams, deal with hours of traffic and wasted time round trip and spend money in another state then our own state .
We built it , if we advertise it , they will come ,let act like adults .
Anyone know what plans LIE has for this winter?
I heard 2017 Terps and Turtles played this weekend in PA. in a older bracket Anyone know how they did?
they did not play this weekend in PA
Terps went 2-1 in there bracket this past Saturday
they both make the finals, but the Turtles did not want to play the Terps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
they both make the finals, but the Turtles did not want to play the Terps.
what are you talking about?!?!?! Im a terp parent we never were suppose to play the Turtles in a finals of any tournament. We scrimmaged them once and had our asses handed to us
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard 2017 Terps and Turtles played this weekend in PA. in a older bracket Anyone know how they did?
they both played u-15 which is considered the proper bracket. JV would be the older bracket.
Heard Turtles undefeated and no terps there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Turtles undefeated and no terps there.
Terps played on Saturday, Turtles on Sunday
How did the JV and 7/8th graders do this weekend at the Sound Lacrosse Fall Classic this past weekend?
So we have 7 posts in which nobody knows what they are talking about. Just wondering??? does this hold true with most posts here.......PROBABLY !!!! Then everyone wonders about all the nonsense that is spewed here !!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Turtles undefeated and no terps there.
Philly Fall Brawl
u15A on SATURDAY- 2017 TERPS went 2-1
u15A on SUNDAY -2017 TURTLES went 3-0
Those are FACTS.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Turtles undefeated and no terps there.
Philly Fall Brawl
u15A on SATURDAY- 2017 TERPS went 2-1
u15A on SUNDAY -2017 TURTLES went 3-0
Those are FACTS.
Exactly. Terps lost 6-5 to Fever lacrosse, Terps beat Green Turtle 15aa 12-3 (maybe by more) than Terps beat Wet Bandits 8-4
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Let's take this day to appreciate all the boys on all teams. Were all lucky enough to have healthy boys to compete at the level they do. No matter what team they play for. Enjoy your day.
2018 Terps played Team Long today at the Hub in Syosset, this is an unbelievable facility and something that is way overdue in Nassau County, Best lighting I have ever seen in an indoor facility.
Who did the terps do against team li
Good game today with 2018 Terps and Team LI U13(7th and 8th graders) at the HUB. Thank You to the coaches of both teams for a good day of lacrosse and we did not need to go far from home. The boys all played great. Nice to see all the kids play with a lot of respect for each other and have good competitive fun. Terps won I believe by 11.
How are the 2017 teams measuring up? What about the lighthouse league results?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are the 2017 teams measuring up? What about the lighthouse league results?
I don't think any 2017 Express teams are playing in that league. I believe 2017 Terps have won two tournaments in a JV brackets, they played 10 games for Fall and won 9 of them. 2017 Turtles (kinda with the express I guess) played 6 tournament games over Fall and won 5 of them. But double check my info on the turtle team where they may have won another tournament.
So those two express 2017 teams seem pretty good and Im a fl$ parent - lol
Are the Terp's considered the A teams for the Express? Who's A and who's B? terp's, wolverines??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are the Terp's considered the A teams for the Express? Who's A and who's B? terp's, wolverines??
in 2017 Terp's are the A team. It is different in some other grades
Thank you. I was looking specifically for 2019.
There are no A and B teams anymore.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are no A and B teams anymore.
(I'll bite)
Come on now, of course there is, whether it is called Orange or Wolverines they are "A". They are also Elite AA etc...(doesnt mean they will win 100% of the time just means they will be one of the best teams in the age group).
As far as b or c that is another question to be answered at another time. (Those teams will be travel teams not elite teams). Lets see how they do this weekend against the other LI travel teams.
Who is team re laxin'?
So there are no a,b,c teams for express. You must be nuts. The colors have been eliminated it used to be: A Orange, B Blue, C White. Now they have gone to names in many cases A Terps, B Wolverines, C or D Piranhas and Barracudas. Being smart express has mixed it up so in some cases or age groups this is not the breakdown. It's all business and if your kid can't get them headlines see ya. It's no longer about developing the players and team but winning and promoting the club. The kids on the B, C,and D just fund the A teams. Calling some of these teams travel teams and collecting the money they do is a travesty. But hey who am I to talk the director is laughing all the way to the bank when the installment checks are written
75 (3 teams per age group on average with 25 kids per) x 2400(fee) x 10 years of graduation= 1,800,000 not including all the pay for practice and special training. NICE!
75 (3 teams per age group on average with 25 kids per) x 2400(fee) x 10 years of graduation= 1,800,000 not including all the pay for practice and special training. NICE!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So there are no a,b,c teams for express. You must be nuts. The colors have been eliminated it used to be: A Orange, B Blue, C White. Now they have gone to names in many cases A Terps, B Wolverines, C or D Piranhas and Barracudas. Being smart express has mixed it up so in some cases or age groups this is not the breakdown. It's all business and if your kid can't get them headlines see ya. It's no longer about developing the players and team but winning and promoting the club. The kids on the B, C,and D just fund the A teams. Calling some of these teams travel teams and collecting the money they do is a travesty. But hey who am I to talk the director is laughing all the way to the bank when the installment checks are written
75 (3 teams per age group on average with 25 kids per) x 2400(fee) x 10 years of graduation= 1,800,000 not including all the pay for practice and special training. NICE!
75 (3 teams per age group on average with 25 kids per) x 2400(fee) x 10 years of graduation= 1,800,000 not including all the pay for practice and special training. NICE!
You're good with the math dude! No likey, no joiny. Simple as that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So there are no a,b,c teams for express. You must be nuts. The colors have been eliminated it used to be: A Orange, B Blue, C White. Now they have gone to names in many cases A Terps, B Wolverines, C or D Piranhas and Barracudas. Being smart express has mixed it up so in some cases or age groups this is not the breakdown. It's all business and if your kid can't get them headlines see ya. It's no longer about developing the players and team but winning and promoting the club. The kids on the B, C,and D just fund the A teams. Calling some of these teams travel teams and collecting the money they do is a travesty. But hey who am I to talk the director is laughing all the way to the bank when the installment checks are written
75 (3 teams per age group on average with 25 kids per) x 2400(fee) x 10 years of graduation= 1,800,000 not including all the pay for practice and special training. NICE!
75 (3 teams per age group on average with 25 kids per) x 2400(fee) x 10 years of graduation= 1,800,000 not including all the pay for practice and special training. NICE!
You're good with the math dude! No likey, no joiny. Simple as that.
I like math. I also agree no likey no joiney. As I said he's laughing all the way to the bank.
While I may agree the cost of this program, especially in the lower tier teams, may be excessive, it is a business. And businesses typically don't perform well when they do not make money.
There are many other teams you can choose to have your player try out and the costs are somewhat lower.
It's a business. If the cost outprices the market, the result will be less players and less teams fielded in each grade. Supply and demand.
There are many other teams you can choose to have your player try out and the costs are somewhat lower.
It's a business. If the cost outprices the market, the result will be less players and less teams fielded in each grade. Supply and demand.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So there are no a,b,c teams for express. You must be nuts. The colors have been eliminated it used to be: A Orange, B Blue, C White. Now they have gone to names in many cases A Terps, B Wolverines, C or D Piranhas and Barracudas. Being smart express has mixed it up so in some cases or age groups this is not the breakdown. It's all business and if your kid can't get them headlines see ya. It's no longer about developing the players and team but winning and promoting the club. The kids on the B, C,and D just fund the A teams. Calling some of these teams travel teams and collecting the money they do is a travesty. But hey who am I to talk the director is laughing all the way to the bank when the installment checks are written
75 (3 teams per age group on average with 25 kids per) x 2400(fee) x 10 years of graduation= 1,800,000 not including all the pay for practice and special training. NICE!
75 (3 teams per age group on average with 25 kids per) x 2400(fee) x 10 years of graduation= 1,800,000 not including all the pay for practice and special training. NICE!
You're good with the math dude! No likey, no joiny. Simple as that.
I like math. I also agree no likey no joiney. As I said he's laughing all the way to the bank.
That's what good business's with a quality product occasionally do. There is more than one principle involved however and for a little while longer are allowed to make money. I'm sure Nike, UA, and every other manufacturer of clothing isn't crying either having their stuff made in Vietnam or Bangladesh for pennies and popping us 40 buck for a pair of shorts or 60 for a sweatshirt. I guess its all about "taxing the rich" figuratively and actual these days right???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I may agree the cost of this program, especially in the lower tier teams, may be excessive, it is a business. And businesses typically don't perform well when they do not make money.
There are many other teams you can choose to have your player try out and the costs are somewhat lower.
It's a business. If the cost outprices the market, the result will be less players and less teams fielded in each grade. Supply and demand.
There are many other teams you can choose to have your player try out and the costs are somewhat lower.
It's a business. If the cost outprices the market, the result will be less players and less teams fielded in each grade. Supply and demand.
Who am i to say one person is paying to much or not enough, that is up to each individual family.
Lets see how the B and C teams do this weekend. If you lose you will say you're paying to much, if you win you might think it is acceptable (for this year).
2019 A team are The Wolverines. It was the orange team last year
All businesses also have different pricing tiers depending on the model or level of service. On price shouldn't fit all teams. That part of the Express model is in serious jeopardy based on the numbers that I've seen at other program tryouts.
Lots of teams out there to choose from as well as lots of different levels of playing ability and price range. Each family/player makes a choice as to what fits their personal needs. That also goes for the clubs/teams they get to hold tryouts and take the players that fit their individual needs. Choices and options, God Bless America!!!
Anyone hear how the boys 2015 tryouts went?
Heard the number of boys trying out was down significantly from last year.........and it was COLD!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard the number of boys trying out was down significantly from last year.........and it was COLD!
RED helmets everywhere
Lots of black and gold helmets too
Did they all go to the fl$ tryouts?
I saw a lot of Cascade Helmets at the tryouts, and they all had facemasks!
Lot will change after those who dont make orange go elsewhere.
It's a sign of the times. People are just tired of all the bs. For those few on orange in any given year the parents will sing the praises of Express but the others are just extras. Sad but true.
fl$ tryouts also done. If you didn't make orange you are screwed.
were there many boys at fl$ tryouts since they were held so late in the season
No the sign of the times is with the early recruiting players, committing early and not going to play all summer when they can relax! Glad my son is lucky enough to be done! Bit also glad playing for Express the past few summers got him the looks he needed!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No the sign of the times is with the early recruiting players, committing early and not going to play all summer when they can relax! Glad my son is lucky enough to be done! Bit also glad playing for Express the past few summers got him the looks he needed!!!!
Truth is there are now so many non-club opportunities to be seen that what club you play for is becoming irrelevant. Also lots of college coaches have told us they don't trust the club coach opinions because of the money connection and the marketing of the recruits that the clubs put on the websites. They trust the school coaches much more. My son was recruited by going to a prospect day that we found ourselves and the club had nothing to do with him getting an offer. In fact they didn't even call the club. Film and his school coach were the only other backup he needed. We saved a boatload not doing the high profile club thing. So, save your money.
Congrats! Let me guess your son was or is on Orange. Not going to knock Express and their results. Just now there are a lot of options and people have choices which will hurt Express in the future. People can only take being treated like crap only so much.
Congratulations to your son! Just a thought-maybe your son got the look due to the years of training with Express. Maybe he would not have been quite the lacrosse player had he not been trained by them. My son is much younger and we are not in that process yet. However, my experience with Express has been very positive. My son needed the proper training so he could break bad habits that the town team father coaches didn't realize they were instilling to no fault of their own. They were doing the best they could, but just didn't know any better. As for the high school coach being an advocate for his players, that truly depends on the coach. The high school my son will go to, the coach has his select favorites and advocates for only a handful. Luckily, the boys that did play club got scholarships from D1 schools because of their club teams and with zero help from a coach that didn't see their talent. Good luck to your son.
My son was not an orange player,but he did get great training and a lot of help with getting invites to the right recruiting camps from the Express coaches. His High School coach is a nice guy,but was not a big help when it came to the recruiting camp invites.My son is going to be playing at a D1 school.There are a lot of opportunities for a lot of different level players.As far as the prior posters comments,you cant make everyone happy all the time.....that could be said for every single club and every single school coach and team. One persons good or great experience could be anothers bad one.So find what works for your family and child and go with it.Our was Express and lucky for us it worked out. Good Luck to all the student athletes that want to play.
Amen! Find what works for your kid. Club lax is a business now. None are a guaranteed perfect fit for all. If not happy with one try another one. There are numerous options avaiable now
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrats! Let me guess your son was or is on Orange. Not going to knock Express and their results. Just now there are a lot of options and people have choices which will hurt Express in the future. People can only take being treated like crap only so much.
Not express - niche program. Bottom line if your kid can't play it doesn't matter what club he is with and if he can play it also doesn't matter what club he's with.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrats! Let me guess your son was or is on Orange. Not going to knock Express and their results. Just now there are a lot of options and people have choices which will hurt Express in the future. People can only take being treated like crap only so much.
Not express - niche program. Bottom line if your kid can't play it doesn't matter what club he is with and if he can play it also doesn't matter what club he's with.
SOOOOO disagree In my vast experience this is not true. I have seen great players get overlooked, fall through the recruiting cracks,or on the other side get a spot for a camp invite...because of A Politics B Who Dad knows C Who club/school coach knows D How much is in the family bank account E Who in the family played or plays lax and they think the sibling is just as talented and too many other reasons to list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrats! Let me guess your son was or is on Orange. Not going to knock Express and their results. Just now there are a lot of options and people have choices which will hurt Express in the future. People can only take being treated like crap only so much.
Not express - niche program. Bottom line if your kid can't play it doesn't matter what club he is with and if he can play it also doesn't matter what club he's with.
SOOOOO disagree In my vast experience this is not true. I have seen great players get overlooked, fall through the recruiting cracks,or on the other side get a spot for a camp invite...because of A Politics B Who Dad knows C Who club/school coach knows D How much is in the family bank account E Who in the family played or plays lax and they think the sibling is just as talented and too many other reasons to list.
Even with the benefit of A throurgh E on your list, none of it matters to a college coach (who's job is on the line) if your kid is not an athletic thoroughbred or Einstein. I've spoken to no less than 5 or 6 college coaches both in DII and DI over the past month or so and they are all exhausted by the club scene - they want to see your kid perform in their high school program to see how he plays a specific role within a system, takes direction and takes pride in his school uniform. All of those things are a much better gauge of how he will transition to a college coache's system then watching johnny play Random Team A vs Random Team B for 40 min. The high school scene is not dead yet and if anything the club scene is killing itself.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Even with the benefit of A throurgh E on your list, none of it matters to a college coach (who's job is on the line) if your kid is not an athletic thoroughbred or Einstein. I've spoken to no less than 5 or 6 college coaches both in DII and DI over the past month or so and they are all exhausted by the club scene - they want to see your kid perform in their high school program to see how he plays a specific role within a system, takes direction and takes pride in his school uniform. All of those things are a much better gauge of how he will transition to a college coache's system then watching johnny play Random Team A vs Random Team B for 40 min. The high school scene is not dead yet and if anything the club scene is killing itself.
[1] High school matches take place one at a time - meaning one game, one venue, two teams. It is an ineffective use of their recruiting budget to schedule travel accordingly.
[2] High school competitions are very erratic in terms of competition level. College coaches are looking for matches played as close as possible to the college game's speed and physicality - the only place to find those types of situations are at showcases, typically on a regional level.
Again, post the names of the colleges and we will validate this information for all of the BOTC readers.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Even with the benefit of A throurgh E on your list, none of it matters to a college coach (who's job is on the line) if your kid is not an athletic thoroughbred or Einstein. I've spoken to no less than 5 or 6 college coaches both in DII and DI over the past month or so and they are all exhausted by the club scene - they want to see your kid perform in their high school program to see how he plays a specific role within a system, takes direction and takes pride in his school uniform. All of those things are a much better gauge of how he will transition to a college coache's system then watching johnny play Random Team A vs Random Team B for 40 min. The high school scene is not dead yet and if anything the club scene is killing itself.
[1] High school matches take place one at a time - meaning one game, one venue, two teams. It is an ineffective use of their recruiting budget to schedule travel accordingly.
[2] High school competitions are very erratic in terms of competition level. College coaches are looking for matches played as close as possible to the college game's speed and physicality - the only place to find those types of situations are at showcases, typically on a regional level.
Again, post the names of the colleges and we will validate this information for all of the BOTC readers.
I understand your points but no offense - I'm not in a position to volunteer a coach's time to speak with you. Best way is for you to reach out to the college coaches yourself - pick 5 or 6 randomly.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I understand your points but no offense - I'm not in a position to volunteer a coach's time to speak with you. Best way is for you to reach out to the college coaches yourself - pick 5 or 6 randomly.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Even with the benefit of A throurgh E on your list, none of it matters to a college coach (who's job is on the line) if your kid is not an athletic thoroughbred or Einstein. I've spoken to no less than 5 or 6 college coaches both in DII and DI over the past month or so and they are all exhausted by the club scene - they want to see your kid perform in their high school program to see how he plays a specific role within a system, takes direction and takes pride in his school uniform. All of those things are a much better gauge of how he will transition to a college coache's system then watching johnny play Random Team A vs Random Team B for 40 min. The high school scene is not dead yet and if anything the club scene is killing itself.
[1] High school matches take place one at a time - meaning one game, one venue, two teams. It is an ineffective use of their recruiting budget to schedule travel accordingly.
[2] High school competitions are very erratic in terms of competition level. College coaches are looking for matches played as close as possible to the college game's speed and physicality - the only place to find those types of situations are at showcases, typically on a regional level.
Again, post the names of the colleges and we will validate this information for all of the BOTC readers.
Sage,
100% spot on.
If the poster was correct, then no college recruiters would even show up at the showcases. Actually, the contrary is true, the showcases and clubs are becoming more important than the HS influence.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Even with the benefit of A throurgh E on your list, none of it matters to a college coach (who's job is on the line) if your kid is not an athletic thoroughbred or Einstein. I've spoken to no less than 5 or 6 college coaches both in DII and DI over the past month or so and they are all exhausted by the club scene - they want to see your kid perform in their high school program to see how he plays a specific role within a system, takes direction and takes pride in his school uniform. All of those things are a much better gauge of how he will transition to a college coache's system then watching johnny play Random Team A vs Random Team B for 40 min. The high school scene is not dead yet and if anything the club scene is killing itself.
[1] High school matches take place one at a time - meaning one game, one venue, two teams. It is an ineffective use of their recruiting budget to schedule travel accordingly.
[2] High school competitions are very erratic in terms of competition level. College coaches are looking for matches played as close as possible to the college game's speed and physicality - the only place to find those types of situations are at showcases, typically on a regional level.
Again, post the names of the colleges and we will validate this information for all of the BOTC readers.
I understand your points but no offense - I'm not in a position to volunteer a coach's time to speak with you. Best way is for you to reach out to the college coaches yourself - pick 5 or 6 randomly.
Sage - we know the clubs butter your bread with advertising money but please try to stay unbiased on this. By the way, during your due diligence please ask them about the issue of seeing individual kids versus teams during the summer circuit. I've been told that they usually are looking at individual players that they've identified ahead of time and care less about the team they are on. It's perfectly fine to go to recruiting tournaments as a "free agent". It'll be interesting if you hear the same.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sage - we know the clubs butter your bread with advertising money but please try to stay unbiased on this. By the way, during your due diligence please ask them about the issue of seeing individual kids versus teams during the summer circuit. I've been told that they usually are looking at individual players that they've identified ahead of time and care less about the team they are on. It's perfectly fine to go to recruiting tournaments as a "free agent". It'll be interesting if you hear the same.
You are correct here about one point : All recruitment is done on an individual player level. Teams are not recruited - players are recruited. This topic has been exhaustively discussed on BOTC and BOTN's College Forum. College coaches want to deal with student-athletes that have expressed interest in the institution and lacrosse program which is why this all comes down to individuals and not teams.
Now, what were those university names again that were part of your survey?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sage,
100% spot on.
If the poster was correct, then no college recruiters would even show up at the showcases. Actually, the contrary is true, the showcases and clubs are becoming more important than the HS influence.
100% spot on.
If the poster was correct, then no college recruiters would even show up at the showcases. Actually, the contrary is true, the showcases and clubs are becoming more important than the HS influence.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sage - we know the clubs butter your bread with advertising money but please try to stay unbiased on this. By the way, during your due diligence please ask them about the issue of seeing individual kids versus teams during the summer circuit. I've been told that they usually are looking at individual players that they've identified ahead of time and care less about the team they are on. It's perfectly fine to go to recruiting tournaments as a "free agent". It'll be interesting if you hear the same.
You are correct here about one point : All recruitment is done on an individual player level. Teams are not recruited - players are recruited. This topic has been exhaustively discussed on BOTC and BOTN's College Forum. College coaches want to deal with student-athletes that have expressed interest in the institution and lacrosse program which is why this all comes down to individuals and not teams.
Now, what were those university names again that were part of your survey?
Really? C'mon Sage - thats just a cheap shot way of trying to discredit the discussion and not a reasonable request to volunteer a college coach's time to discuss this - they are full-on on crushed for time recruiting and running their programs 24x7 and could care less about our discussion here. You need to do your own due diligence just as we are doing for our sons. I'm only offering pieces of my due diligence as informational. My son plays on a club so I am not trying to trash the club scene on purpose - that would be silly since I'm paying damn good money for the club which I believe fills a void with value around the high school season. But, I thought it would be interesting to share elements of my conversations as well as conversations my son has had as recently as this past weekend. If others have heard differently, please share! And please, no specific college coach names necessary! We're just sharing info here that I hope is truthfully what people are hearing direclty from college coaches. I sense they are fatigued, maybe jeaolous of the club money and also leary of the "pay for play" and marketing benefits of success stories that clubs have with potential recruits.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
C'mon Sage - thats just a cheap shot way of trying to discredit the discussion and not a reasonable request to volunteer a college coach's time to discuss this - they are full-on on crushed for time recruiting and running their programs 24x7 and could care less about our discussion here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You need to do your own due diligence just as we are doing for our sons.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm only offering pieces of my due diligence as informational.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son plays on a club so I am not trying to trash the club scene on purpose - that would be silly since I'm paying damn good money for the club which I believe fills a void with value around the high school season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
But, I thought it would be interesting to share elements of my conversations as well as conversations my son has had as recently as this past weekend. If others have heard differently, please share!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And please, no specific college coach names necessary!
BOTC is in touch with all of the local college programs and many beyond - chances are, we are have spoken with most of the coaches that you would cite.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We're just sharing info here that I hope is truthfully what people are hearing direclty from college coaches. I sense they are fatigued, maybe jeaolous of the club money and also leary of the "pay for play" and marketing benefits of success stories that clubs have with potential recruits.
"I've spoken to no less than 5 or 6 college coaches both in DII and DI over the past month or so and they are all exhausted by the club scene - they want to see your kid perform in their high school program to see how he plays a specific role within a system, takes direction and takes pride in his school uniform."
I have heard this also from a prominent div I program. Usually that's the coaches way of communicating to parents that your son is not on their radar, has not impressed them to date, and a way of saying they will check back this spring one last time but will probably pass on him.
I have heard this also from a prominent div I program. Usually that's the coaches way of communicating to parents that your son is not on their radar, has not impressed them to date, and a way of saying they will check back this spring one last time but will probably pass on him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"I've spoken to no less than 5 or 6 college coaches both in DII and DI over the past month or so and they are all exhausted by the club scene - they want to see your kid perform in their high school program to see how he plays a specific role within a system, takes direction and takes pride in his school uniform."
I have heard this also from a prominent div I program. Usually that's the coaches way of communicating to parents that your son is not on their radar, has not impressed them to date, and a way of saying they will check back this spring one last time but will probably pass on him.
I have heard this also from a prominent div I program. Usually that's the coaches way of communicating to parents that your son is not on their radar, has not impressed them to date, and a way of saying they will check back this spring one last time but will probably pass on him.
Just read the LI Express website and take a look at all the names of the student athletes that are playing college lacrosse at Div 1,2,3 schools.You can see the success rate that the club program has had in helping get players to the program that is best suited for that individual. Lots and lots of great players over many years.
Yes - a nice list of recruited players. But is it the club or the kid's ability that gets him recruited? I say the kid's ability 100%.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just read the LI Express website and take a look at all the names of the student athletes that are playing college lacrosse at Div 1,2,3 schools.You can see the success rate that the club program has had in helping get players to the program that is best suited for that individual. Lots and lots of great players over many years.
A miracle then that anybody was ever recruited before any of these clubs were formed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just read the LI Express website and take a look at all the names of the student athletes that are playing college lacrosse at Div 1,2,3 schools.You can see the success rate that the club program has had in helping get players to the program that is best suited for that individual. Lots and lots of great players over many years.
Give the credit to the kids for making this happen. The great majority on this list would have been recruited no matter what club or school they played for.
Let's put it in words. If these clubs were about really developing players they would start up teams in 4th or 5th grade by holding a tryout and then keep that team together till 12th with no cuts. You would need to fill holes due to loss of players, loss of interest etc.This would be about player development. Why should they do that when they can hold a tryout every year and take new players that are better than the ones they have. It's a business. It's about bragging rights and getting more players to pay to play. Many of the players on the Express college list would have played in college regardless if they played for Express or any other program. Yes Express has put together a format to maximize player development and exposure but in the end its the player not the club the college coach is recruiting.
When it comes to recruiting its silly to say a coach wouldn't want to go to a combine and see 200 players that could possibly play college ball in one weekend but travel to some high school game where there could be 2 or 3 possible college players. So they would need to travel to 65 high school games to accomplish the same thing as going to one combine.
When it comes to recruiting its silly to say a coach wouldn't want to go to a combine and see 200 players that could possibly play college ball in one weekend but travel to some high school game where there could be 2 or 3 possible college players. So they would need to travel to 65 high school games to accomplish the same thing as going to one combine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let's put it in words. If these clubs were about really developing players they would start up teams in 4th or 5th grade by holding a tryout and then keep that team together till 12th with no cuts. You would need to fill holes due to loss of players, loss of interest etc.This would be about player development.
Interesting concept but it does not work, kids develop at different rates and you want your kid to play on a team that gives him the greatest chance to succeed. Staying with kids that might have been great in 4th grade but not in 7th will not help your kid develop or help the team stay competitive. The Raiders tried what you are recommending and they were never "about the money" and they failed to stay together because everybody was welcome back, the better kids left. I think the 2013 Raiders team that broke up around 8th grade had about 15 kids that are now committed D1 and you can see a bunch of those names on Expresses web site, when they were the Raiders they didn't have tryouts and didn't cut kids and eventually folded and it is a shame because they were great. the 2016 and 2018 Raiders hooked up with 91 so they could get stronger and stay competitive knowing that they could not stay competitive as independents.
We also have no idea how long those kids on the Express college list played for Express.
Express might be like the Alabama Crimson Tide, claiming national championships awarded by the local high school paper. Did those kids play one game for Express, or were they involved for 3 years. No way to tell!
Heck, my kid made an Express team, we went to one meeting, and never returned. If he makes it on a college team, would the Express list him too?
Express might be like the Alabama Crimson Tide, claiming national championships awarded by the local high school paper. Did those kids play one game for Express, or were they involved for 3 years. No way to tell!
Heck, my kid made an Express team, we went to one meeting, and never returned. If he makes it on a college team, would the Express list him too?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let's put it in words. If these clubs were about really developing players they would start up teams in 4th or 5th grade by holding a tryout and then keep that team together till 12th with no cuts. You would need to fill holes due to loss of players, loss of interest etc.This would be about player development.
Interesting concept but it does not work, kids develop at different rates and you want your kid to play on a team that gives him the greatest chance to succeed. Staying with kids that might have been great in 4th grade but not in 7th will not help your kid develop or help the team stay competitive. The Raiders tried what you are recommending and they were never "about the money" and they failed to stay together because everybody was welcome back, the better kids left. I think the 2013 Raiders team that broke up around 8th grade had about 15 kids that are now committed D1 and you can see a bunch of those names on Expresses web site, when they were the Raiders they didn't have tryouts and didn't cut kids and eventually folded and it is a shame because they were great. the 2016 and 2018 Raiders hooked up with 91 so they could get stronger and stay competitive knowing that they could not stay competitive as independents.
I was just using that format as an example if it were about player development not a business. We all know its a business for those who run the clubs. It will never be about loyalty or the kids.
Originally Posted by Proton Power
We also have no idea how long those kids on the Express college list played for Express.
Express might be like the Alabama Crimson Tide, claiming national championships awarded by the local high school paper. Did those kids play one game for Express, or were they involved for 3 years. No way to tell!
Heck, my kid made an Express team, we went to one meeting, and never returned. If he makes it on a college team, would the Express list him too?
Express might be like the Alabama Crimson Tide, claiming national championships awarded by the local high school paper. Did those kids play one game for Express, or were they involved for 3 years. No way to tell!
Heck, my kid made an Express team, we went to one meeting, and never returned. If he makes it on a college team, would the Express list him too?
You need to remember a lot of these kids from express play for St Anthonys or Cahaminade so they have a big talent pool to start with. For the most part they will only take the best kids available to fill there team. They will bypass many of St Anthony and Chaminade kids to put great players on the orange team. If express had only Catholic school kids coaches would not watch these kids they have the best of both worlds
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was just using that format as an example if it were about player development not a business. We all know its a business for those who run the clubs. It will never be about loyalty or the kids.
I agree but loyalty works both ways, in these "loyal" organizations where they tried the no tryout route, the better players tryout for the best teams and if they make it they jump ship while the rest of the players who don't have options stay. eventually making them a weaker team - the players and the families have the same loyalty as the big clubs, none.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was just using that format as an example if it were about player development not a business. We all know its a business for those who run the clubs. It will never be about loyalty or the kids.
I agree but loyalty works both ways, in these "loyal" organizations where they tried the no tryout route, the better players tryout for the best teams and if they make it they jump ship while the rest of the players who don't have options stay. eventually making them a weaker team - the players and the families have the same loyalty as the big clubs, none.
The first night of the 2015 express tryouts were a sham in that a bunch of the orange players didn't even bother to show up (some did however). Yet very few changes to the team. There were kids who played their hearts out both nights with no realistic chance of making it. Yet others don't have to pick up a stick. Great message - thanks very much for your donation sucker.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was just using that format as an example if it were about player development not a business. We all know its a business for those who run the clubs. It will never be about loyalty or the kids.
I agree but loyalty works both ways, in these "loyal" organizations where they tried the no tryout route, the better players tryout for the best teams and if they make it they jump ship while the rest of the players who don't have options stay. eventually making them a weaker team - the players and the families have the same loyalty as the big clubs, none.
Yes kids are forced to tryout for multiple teams because club teams are always looking for the next big thing and have created so much uncertainty amongst players and family kids need to keep their options open. Rather than develop a player the clubs just look for a player better than the one they have. Nothing upfront just backroom scheming. Many decisions are made who they will replace or not replace before tryouts even occur.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was just using that format as an example if it were about player development not a business. We all know its a business for those who run the clubs. It will never be about loyalty or the kids.
I agree but loyalty works both ways, in these "loyal" organizations where they tried the no tryout route, the better players tryout for the best teams and if they make it they jump ship while the rest of the players who don't have options stay. eventually making them a weaker team - the players and the families have the same loyalty as the big clubs, none.
The first night of the 2015 express tryouts were a sham in that a bunch of the orange players didn't even bother to show up (some did however). Yet very few changes to the team. There were kids who played their hearts out both nights with no realistic chance of making it. Yet others don't have to pick up a stick. Great message - thanks very much for your donation sucker.
Sort of resembles reality in our society. Didn't we just go through this on Nov 6th and it was revealed that several districts in this country had 110%+ turnouts all leaning to one side...go figure!
Sort of resembles reality in our society. Didn't we just go through this on Nov 6th and it was revealed that several districts in this country had 110%+ turnouts all leaning to one side...go figure! [/quote]
Now this is a whole different debate!!! Odd how that happened and nobody wants to really talk about it.
Now this is a whole different debate!!! Odd how that happened and nobody wants to really talk about it.
Is it $2400 for the varsity players ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was just using that format as an example if it were about player development not a business. We all know its a business for those who run the clubs. It will never be about loyalty or the kids.
I agree but loyalty works both ways, in these "loyal" organizations where they tried the no tryout route, the better players tryout for the best teams and if they make it they jump ship while the rest of the players who don't have options stay. eventually making them a weaker team - the players and the families have the same loyalty as the big clubs, none.
The first night of the 2015 express tryouts were a sham in that a bunch of the orange players didn't even bother to show up (some did however). Yet very few changes to the team. There were kids who played their hearts out both nights with no realistic chance of making it. Yet others don't have to pick up a stick. Great message - thanks very much for your donation sucker.
They should state up front - "Your son is not trying out for the Orange team - he is trying out for placement on either the Blue or whatever we are calling the 3rd team. Thanks for the Hundy."
This country should go to the popular vote election system. In New [lacrosse] for instance if I vote Republican then basically my vote doesn't count.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This country should go to the popular vote election system. In New [lacrosse] for instance if I vote Republican then basically my vote doesn't count.
The direction that the country's heading it's not going to matter! Low-information voters appear to now out number the rest of us...
All clubs hold tryouts for the few open spot on existing teams to take the best players. Name one club that had a tryout and said upfront how many actual spots were open on any given team? Orange, Purple, Terps,91,96,100,Crabs,Gladiators,True Blue,Green Yellow, Hawks whatever....it is the nature of the process. All teams hold a tryout and usually collect some sort of fee and then pick teams. You are obviously disgruntled with your experience with this particular club but I know firsthand it happens elsewhere. Coaches want the best players.My son was actually solicited by a coach of another club(Not Express) after a game(5th grade team at the time) and asked to come play with them and he would promise to "make room" for him. How do you think his current player that would be cut would have felt?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They should state up front - "Your son is not trying out for the Orange team - he is trying out for placement on either the Blue or whatever we are calling the 3rd team. Thanks for the Hundy."
yet kids that were not on orange last year made the team this year - kindly explain..... This is a team that won the U15 national championship last year and cut a couple of kids and added a couple of kids for a rising Junior team what else do you want. check out the other threads where they complain about lack of loyalty
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They should state up front - "Your son is not trying out for the Orange team - he is trying out for placement on either the Blue or whatever we are calling the 3rd team. Thanks for the Hundy."
yet kids that were not on orange last year made the team this year - kindly explain..... This is a team that won the U15 national championship last year and cut a couple of kids and added a couple of kids for a rising Junior team what else do you want. check out the other threads where they complain about lack of loyalty
Guarenteed any changes were already decided well before the tryouts based on play last summer and fall. The actual tryouts had nothing to do with the changes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They should state up front - "Your son is not trying out for the Orange team - he is trying out for placement on either the Blue or whatever we are calling the 3rd team. Thanks for the Hundy."
yet kids that were not on orange last year made the team this year - kindly explain..... This is a team that won the U15 national championship last year and cut a couple of kids and added a couple of kids for a rising Junior team what else do you want. check out the other threads where they complain about lack of loyalty
Guarenteed any changes were already decided well before the tryouts based on play last summer and fall. The actual tryouts had nothing to do with the changes.
why wouldnt they, an avg player can have a great try out. You need to know how they played before they try out. The diamond in the rough that shows up at tryouts will be researched to see if it was a fluke.
While the boys who played last year had their oppurtuity to show what they can do.
Personally, I wished Express would put a bit more emphasis on the next teir of players. There are a lot of players who would love to play for them, but the families feel they have not shown in the past few years that those teams (below the orange) are important to them. This is where i feel the other organizations surpass Express. IMHO
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Guarenteed any changes were already decided well before the tryouts based on play last summer and fall. The actual tryouts had nothing to do with the changes.
just so I understand this, the goalie that made the team was guaranteed the spot over the goalie that had been on the team for 3 or 4 years before the tryouts? and the kid that played on White last year and made the Orange this year was guaranteed his spot and neither one made the team because they outplayed other kids at the tryout?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Guarenteed any changes were already decided well before the tryouts based on play last summer and fall. The actual tryouts had nothing to do with the changes.
just so I understand this, the goalie that made the team was guaranteed the spot over the goalie that had been on the team for 3 or 4 years before the tryouts? and the kid that played on White last year and made the Orange this year was guaranteed his spot and neither one made the team because they outplayed other kids at the tryout?
No kid on last year's white made the orange - if that were true, what would that say about the Express coach's ability to judge talent? No kid improves that much in one year to jump two levels and break into a "national championship lineup" - unless the Express screwed up, heaven forbid.
You are trying to compare apples and oranges. No tryout from year to year is the same. Not all the same players show up and some players do improve from year to year and some players DO not improve. This allows changes in each years team. Most teams do add and remove players fro many reasons. Especially with all the options available for players and all the players available for coaches.This is not just in this club/organization but in all of them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are trying to compare apples and oranges. No tryout from year to year is the same. Not all the same players show up and some players do improve from year to year and some players DO not improve. This allows changes in each years team. Most teams do add and remove players fro many reasons. Especially with all the options available for players and all the players available for coaches.This is not just in this club/organization but in all of them.
Still no excuse for a good handful of orange kids not to even show up on the first night of tryouts. Hubris.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Guarenteed any changes were already decided well before the tryouts based on play last summer and fall. The actual tryouts had nothing to do with the changes.
just so I understand this, the goalie that made the team was guaranteed the spot over the goalie that had been on the team for 3 or 4 years before the tryouts? and the kid that played on White last year and made the Orange this year was guaranteed his spot and neither one made the team because they outplayed other kids at the tryout?
No kid on last year's white made the orange - if that were true, what would that say about the Express coach's ability to judge talent? No kid improves that much in one year to jump two levels and break into a "national championship lineup" - unless the Express screwed up, heaven forbid.
This comment is ridiculous. There definitely are kids that can improve that much in one year. & why would that mean that Express screwed up? Kids grow, their bodies change, they develop a bit of confidence that they had been lacking, they just become better due to hard work & focus, or as the prior poster said...they just outplayed other players @ the tryout! It happens all of the time in ALL sports.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Guarenteed any changes were already decided well before the tryouts based on play last summer and fall. The actual tryouts had nothing to do with the changes.
just so I understand this, the goalie that made the team was guaranteed the spot over the goalie that had been on the team for 3 or 4 years before the tryouts? and the kid that played on White last year and made the Orange this year was guaranteed his spot and neither one made the team because they outplayed other kids at the tryout?
No kid on last year's white made the orange - if that were true, what would that say about the Express coach's ability to judge talent? No kid improves that much in one year to jump two levels and break into a "national championship lineup" - unless the Express screwed up, heaven forbid.
This comment is ridiculous. There definitely are kids that can improve that much in one year. & why would that mean that Express screwed up? Kids grow, their bodies change, they develop a bit of confidence that they had been lacking, they just become better due to hard work & focus, or as the prior poster said...they just outplayed other players @ the tryout! It happens all of the time in ALL sports.
Right. And there could be sibling relationships that matter etc.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on last year's white made the orange - if that were true, what would that say about the Express coach's ability to judge talent? No kid improves that much in one year to jump two levels and break into a "national championship lineup" - unless the Express screwed up, heaven forbid.
Last summer a 5' kid with no brothers played on express white, the same kid is now 5'8" was the MVP of the Nassau Suffolk showcase, he got bigger stronger and better and at what appears to be an open tryout made the Orange team - just saying.
and what that says about express ability to judge talent is that last year they missed a small diamond in the rough who was also injured at the tryout,not at his best and didn't deserve to make the top team and this year found a fully grown talent lacrosse player. open and fair tryouts
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on last year's white made the orange - if that were true, what would that say about the Express coach's ability to judge talent? No kid improves that much in one year to jump two levels and break into a "national championship lineup" - unless the Express screwed up, heaven forbid.
Last summer a 5' kid with no brothers played on express white, the same kid is now 5'8" was the MVP of the Nassau Suffolk showcase, he got bigger stronger and better and at what appears to be an open tryout made the Orange team - just saying.
and what that says about express ability to judge talent is that last year they missed a small diamond in the rough who was also injured at the tryout,not at his best and didn't deserve to make the top team and this year found a fully grown talent lacrosse player. open and fair tryouts
Kudos to that young man. What year?
I do need to say that tryouts are not infallible. A player could have a bad two days, be hurt, or the exact opposite have the tryout of his life and never play at that level again. At least player was still in Express and is playing on Orange.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on last year's white made the orange - if that were true, what would that say about the Express coach's ability to judge talent? No kid improves that much in one year to jump two levels and break into a "national championship lineup" - unless the Express screwed up, heaven forbid.
Last summer a 5' kid with no brothers played on express white, the same kid is now 5'8" was the MVP of the Nassau Suffolk showcase, he got bigger stronger and better and at what appears to be an open tryout made the Orange team - just saying.
and what that says about express ability to judge talent is that last year they missed a small diamond in the rough who was also injured at the tryout,not at his best and didn't deserve to make the top team and this year found a fully grown talent lacrosse player. open and fair tryouts
This says it all! The "playing field" is not the same in any given year- but most especially for kids going through puberty. Good for that kid!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on last year's white made the orange - if that were true, what would that say about the Express coach's ability to judge talent? No kid improves that much in one year to jump two levels and break into a "national championship lineup" - unless the Express screwed up, heaven forbid.
Last summer a 5' kid with no brothers played on express white, the same kid is now 5'8" was the MVP of the Nassau Suffolk showcase, he got bigger stronger and better and at what appears to be an open tryout made the Orange team - just saying.
and what that says about express ability to judge talent is that last year they missed a small diamond in the rough who was also injured at the tryout,not at his best and didn't deserve to make the top team and this year found a fully grown talent lacrosse player. open and fair tryouts
This says it all! The "playing field" is not the same in any given year- but most especially for kids going through puberty. Good for that kid!
or a good steroid program
It's funny how when your side loses, it's because the other side cheated, they are low information voters, they voted because they are getting things for free, etc. Those who fail to recognize their short comings are doomed to repeat them. Why doesn't the losing party ever take a step back and say " Gee, maybe our ideas, or beliefs, or policies are outdated and wrong, and the majority of the country doesn't agree with us.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on last year's white made the orange - if that were true, what would that say about the Express coach's ability to judge talent? No kid improves that much in one year to jump two levels and break into a "national championship lineup" - unless the Express screwed up, heaven forbid.
Last summer a 5' kid with no brothers played on express white, the same kid is now 5'8" was the MVP of the Nassau Suffolk showcase, he got bigger stronger and better and at what appears to be an open tryout made the Orange team - just saying.
and what that says about express ability to judge talent is that last year they missed a small diamond in the rough who was also injured at the tryout,not at his best and didn't deserve to make the top team and this year found a fully grown talent lacrosse player. open and fair tryouts
This says it all! The "playing field" is not the same in any given year- but most especially for kids going through puberty. Good for that kid!
or a good steroid program
Or, perhaps, they just grew...because that does usually happen @ this age. Why does everything have to be "suspicious"?
Congratulations to LI Express 2015 Danny Jones on his commit to Johns Hopkins!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on last year's white made the orange - if that were true, what would that say about the Express coach's ability to judge talent? No kid improves that much in one year to jump two levels and break into a "national championship lineup" - unless the Express screwed up, heaven forbid.
Last summer a 5' kid with no brothers played on express white, the same kid is now 5'8" was the MVP of the Nassau Suffolk showcase, he got bigger stronger and better and at what appears to be an open tryout made the Orange team - just saying.
and what that says about express ability to judge talent is that last year they missed a small diamond in the rough who was also injured at the tryout,not at his best and didn't deserve to make the top team and this year found a fully grown talent lacrosse player. open and fair tryouts
This says it all! The "playing field" is not the same in any given year- but most especially for kids going through puberty. Good for that kid!
or a good steroid program
Or, perhaps, they just grew...because that does usually happen @ this age. Why does everything have to be "suspicious"?
becasue mom is 4'11'' and dad is 5'4".. outside of that no one will care.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No kid on last year's white made the orange - if that were true, what would that say about the Express coach's ability to judge talent? No kid improves that much in one year to jump two levels and break into a "national championship lineup" - unless the Express screwed up, heaven forbid.
Last summer a 5' kid with no brothers played on express white, the same kid is now 5'8" was the MVP of the Nassau Suffolk showcase, he got bigger stronger and better and at what appears to be an open tryout made the Orange team - just saying.
and what that says about express ability to judge talent is that last year they missed a small diamond in the rough who was also injured at the tryout,not at his best and didn't deserve to make the top team and this year found a fully grown talent lacrosse player. open and fair tryouts
This says it all! The "playing field" is not the same in any given year- but most especially for kids going through puberty. Good for that kid!
or a good steroid program
Or, perhaps, they just grew...because that does usually happen @ this age. Why does everything have to be "suspicious"?
becasue mom is 4'11'' and dad is 5'4".. outside of that no one will care.
Not true...
Was looking at Express Website regarding tution cost for 2013 season and dont see it listed anywhere. Does anyone know cost?
$2400.00
2019 is $1600 for summer, if you did fall tournaments and practices it was additional $800.
Quite an increase over last year, no?
What teams are playing in the dicks sporting goods tourney
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What teams are playing in the dicks sporting goods tourney
[lacrosse]'s Sporting Goods Tournament - Team Listing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Quite an increase over last year, no?
Unless you are running for cod, fishing season starts in the spring.
I fish all winter, just got back from Marco Island. Possible trip to Hawaii in February.
You can fish alot with $2400
ENJOY!!!
ENJOY!!!
Doesnt even cover flights never mind chartering the boat, if you think travel lax is $$ you should try travel fishing...
A lot less crying by grown men (and women) in fishing too.
If its to much dont pay it and go somewhere else. This is America man, stop complaining like you live in France and move on with your life... Go Fishing too, its fun.
be glad you kid does not want to ride a horse
I need some help following here, is fishing actually a metaphor for asking a question that you already know the answer to and just trying to start a dialog that will allow you to indirectly trash the Express because they charge money? or is this really about a new travel fishing league? if so I want to register www.backofthepond.com before cagesage so i can control the conversation... I hear that MC already has his eyes on a great 2024 caster
Just a conversation on the relative cost of things... people complain about how much a certain travel team charges, then to another thread and complain about about the helmets they get or dont get... sign me up for back of the pond, I believe the recreational fishing industry in the U.S. has a much broader audience and grosses 100x more than the Lacrosse industry. The 100x is an estimation I am sure it is much more.
Or race Formula-1 Cars!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
if so I want to register www.backofthepond.com before cagesage so i can control the conversation... I hear that MC already has his eyes on a great 2024 caster
Congratulations To L I Express 2014 Girls Team Goalkeeper Emma Jehle (Ward Melville High School)on Committing to Binghamton University.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to LI Express 2015 Danny Jones on his commit to Johns Hopkins!!!!
WOW! Good stuff! Where does the fella hail from?
-91er and still glad
Danny Jones is a student /athlete from Saint Anthonys HS Congratulations!!
Thanks mom.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks mom.
Actually I play with him!
Congrats 2018 Terps nice win at the Winter National tournament in NJ.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrats 2018 Terps nice win at the Winter National tournament in NJ.
Yes! And the 2017 Terps grab their championship also! Along with 2019 Wolverines winning their age too
why didn't cudas go down to play in the U15 at dicks?
It's not like it's down the block. Oh let's just go down to Florida and play in this tournament to satisfy the questions.
Truth be told team is not deep and if a couple of starters couldn't play they know they would not win.
2016 Cudas going to [lacrosse]'s in July. Thanks for asking
Wouldn't it be nice if a big name sports company sponsored a tournament on LI instead of all of us paying to go play in FL and NJ and everywhere else! We could easily get teams to come play here and our local economy could use the financial benefit of such an event. We are home to several colleges with great facilities as well as great parks and lots of hotels and restaurants!!Maybe Dicks could hold a local event?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2016 Cudas going to [lacrosse]'s in July. Thanks for asking
When all the players expect to make it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2016 Cudas going to [lacrosse]'s in July. Thanks for asking
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2016 Cudas going to [lacrosse]'s in July. Thanks for asking
The July tourney is considered the better held national event.
Don't tell the Turtles that the July tourney is better. Will be interesting to see if the turtles enter the U15 championship in florida this coming summer. Hope they do.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't tell the Turtles that the July tourney is better. Will be interesting to see if the turtles enter the U15 championship in florida this coming summer. Hope they do.
"Don't tell the turtles that July tourney is better", why don't tell them? Is someone suppose to be scared? LOL. I think the ADULTS on LI are more scared of the turtle creator and his team than the actual 2017 players on LI. Fact.
All this negative smack talk combined with arrogance and superiority complexes, you guys are really starting to sound like soccer parents
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013...icks-sporting-goods-tournament-champions
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013...icks-sporting-goods-tournament-champions
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Why did you put this on the Express thread?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013...icks-sporting-goods-tournament-champions
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Why did you put this on the Express thread?
Read the second sentence, restate the question and see if it makes sense. Measure twice cut once.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013...icks-sporting-goods-tournament-champions
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Why did you put this on the Express thread?
Its called "rubbing your nose in it".
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013...icks-sporting-goods-tournament-champions
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Why did you put this on the Express thread?
Its called "rubbing your nose in it".
So your rubbing it in all the noses of express players and parents? Your team beat little kids. Get real. And aren't your great turtles suppose to be a "express team"?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013...icks-sporting-goods-tournament-champions
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Why did you put this on the Express thread?
To answer your question....I put it here because the Turtles are an Express Team,I think it is nice to Congratulate the young boys and their coaches for a nice accomplishment. I am a lax fan, my son is on another Express team. But I do appreciate the great team that these players are.
lax pro is looking to play turtles an cudas then we will see who is the best on long island . we will shut everybody up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really.. Who is Lax Pro ??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013...icks-sporting-goods-tournament-champions
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Why did you put this on the Express thread?
To answer your question....I put it here because the Turtles are an Express Team,I think it is nice to Congratulate the young boys and their coaches for a nice accomplishment. I am a lax fan, my son is on another Express team. But I do appreciate the great team that these players are.
I also appreciate the great team they are on. Thats very nice that you support the "express turtles" because they are an "express team". I have one more question, if you are such a big supporter of express teams WHY didn't you post a link about the THREE express teams that won championships right after xmas for the Indoor Nationals in NJ? Kinda a big deal that the club won every age in a tournament with strong competition wouldn't you say? But, I guess its never a good accomplishment unless your wearing the Express colors of PURPLE and GREEN.
It's incredible the results that all of the long island teams have achieved!
Many Congrats to each and everyone of the teams, players, coaches and parents whose dedication has allowed all of the kids to represent so well.
Cheers to all, regardless of team colors or affiliations.
Many Congrats to each and everyone of the teams, players, coaches and parents whose dedication has allowed all of the kids to represent so well.
Cheers to all, regardless of team colors or affiliations.
do you live under a rock
we are the best ten on long island ,nobody is safe when we play
we are the best ten on long island ,nobody is safe when we play
Hope you play better then you spell
Originally Posted by Anonymous
do you live under a rock
we are the best ten on long island ,nobody is safe when we play
we are the best ten on long island ,nobody is safe when we play
don't know who you are referring to? Who is the "best 10"? I guess you will answer when you get home from school!
Does anyone have any idea when the Express is going to announce what tournaments we are playing in for the Summer of 2013? Trying to make some plans and I can't believe the whole family has to wait on an 11 yr olds lacrosse schedule
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any idea when the Express is going to announce what tournaments we are playing in for the Summer of 2013? Trying to make some plans and I can't believe the whole family has to wait on an 11 yr olds lacrosse schedule
Family plans? Ha Ha - yea right, kiss that goodbye. Welcome to 5-6 years of summer club lax [lacrosse].
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013...icks-sporting-goods-tournament-champions
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!
Why did you put this on the Express thread?
To answer your question....I put it here because the Turtles are an Express Team,I think it is nice to Congratulate the young boys and their coaches for a nice accomplishment. I am a lax fan, my son is on another Express team. But I do appreciate the great team that these players are.
I also appreciate the great team they are on. Thats very nice that you support the "express turtles" because they are an "express team". I have one more question, if you are such a big supporter of express teams WHY didn't you post a link about the THREE express teams that won championships right after xmas for the Indoor Nationals in NJ? Kinda a big deal that the club won every age in a tournament with strong competition wouldn't you say? But, I guess its never a good accomplishment unless your wearing the Express colors of PURPLE and GREEN.
Actually I DID post after the Winter National Tournament you can go back and read the posting Congratulating all THREE winners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
make plans in August!!!!! or weekdays only in July - good luck
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any idea when the Express is going to announce what tournaments we are playing in for the Summer of 2013? Trying to make some plans and I can't believe the whole family has to wait on an 11 yr olds lacrosse schedule
Usually at commitment night they give out the tournament list
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any idea when the Express is going to announce what tournaments we are playing in for the Summer of 2013? Trying to make some plans and I can't believe the whole family has to wait on an 11 yr olds lacrosse schedule
Family plans? Ha Ha - yea right, kiss that goodbye. Welcome to 5-6 years of summer club lax [lacrosse].
I guess someone is forcing you to have your kid play travel lacrosse. It comes with the territory.....
Just keep in mind ... the tournament schedule will change after it is handed out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any idea when the Express is going to announce what tournaments we are playing in for the Summer of 2013? Trying to make some plans and I can't believe the whole family has to wait on an 11 yr olds lacrosse schedule
Family plans? Ha Ha - yea right, kiss that goodbye. Welcome to 5-6 years of summer club lax [lacrosse].
I guess someone is forcing you to have your kid play travel lacrosse. It comes with the territory.....
Relax hyper rookie - been there done that with quite a successful outcome. But if fighting traffic on the NJ TP in 100 degree heat every weekend is your family's idea of relaxing fun, quality time and creating memories then knock yourself out. And yes, this is "forced" on everybody if your kid loves lax.
August is usually safe, unless you getting for tryouts in September. LOL! Come on all you haters love it or leave it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
make plans in August!!!!! or weekdays only in July - good luck
Not even with club practices during the week and for many kids summer football practices/workouts/camps in July & August.
What is "commitment night "?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any idea when the Express is going to announce what tournaments we are playing in for the Summer of 2013? Trying to make some plans and I can't believe the whole family has to wait on an 11 yr olds lacrosse schedule
Family plans? Ha Ha - yea right, kiss that goodbye. Welcome to 5-6 years of summer club lax [lacrosse].
I guess someone is forcing you to have your kid play travel lacrosse. It comes with the territory.....
Relax hyper rookie - been there done that with quite a successful outcome. But if fighting traffic on the NJ TP in 100 degree heat every weekend is your family's idea of relaxing fun, quality time and creating memories then knock yourself out. And yes, this is "forced" on everybody if your kid loves lax.
whoa, easy there Lax pro. Again it all comes with the territory..........
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any idea when the Express is going to announce what tournaments we are playing in for the Summer of 2013? Trying to make some plans and I can't believe the whole family has to wait on an 11 yr olds lacrosse schedule
Family plans? Ha Ha - yea right, kiss that goodbye. Welcome to 5-6 years of summer club lax [lacrosse].
I guess someone is forcing you to have your kid play travel lacrosse. It comes with the territory.....
Relax hyper rookie - been there done that with quite a successful outcome. But if fighting traffic on the NJ TP in 100 degree heat every weekend is your family's idea of relaxing fun, quality time and creating memories then knock yourself out. And yes, this is "forced" on everybody if your kid loves lax.
whoa, easy there Lax pro. Again it all comes with the territory..........
doesn't mean you have to love it.
Will they also change or swap coaches for 2015 blue and 2015 white???
The bigger issue is will these teams get any real exposure in AA brackets at the highest profile recruiting tournaments. Huge recruiting summer that hopefully won't be wasted. There isn't a single kid on the team that can afford to play at subpar tournaments.
2015 Express Blue has new coaches this year-Jack Moran (Chaminade), Doug Schreiber (St Anthony's) and Kevin Adler (St. Anthony's). 2015 White has the same Head coach as last year- Bob Pomponio (Chaminade). Both teams have a great collection of coaches.
No question - quality coaches. But will anybody see them play besides parents?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The bigger issue is will these teams get any real exposure in AA brackets at the highest profile recruiting tournaments. Huge recruiting summer that hopefully won't be wasted. There isn't a single kid on the team that can afford to play at subpar tournaments.
When the 2015 Blue and White get their tournament schedules for the summer could somebody please post them here? Thanks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No question - quality coaches. But will anybody see them play besides parents?
If a tree falls in the woods...are the directors embarrassed to put this team in front of college coaches against other elite teams? The schedule will tell all.
Agreed. Biggest summer of their recruiting process. No time to waste a summer buried in meaningless obscurity. Hope it works out for these boys because jesters, outlaws, fl$ and others will get lots of exposure.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any idea when the Express is going to announce what tournaments we are playing in for the Summer of 2013? Trying to make some plans and I can't believe the whole family has to wait on an 11 yr olds lacrosse schedule
Family plans? Ha Ha - yea right, kiss that goodbye. Welcome to 5-6 years of summer club lax [lacrosse].
I guess someone is forcing you to have your kid play travel lacrosse. It comes with the territory.....
Relax hyper rookie - been there done that with quite a successful outcome. But if fighting traffic on the NJ TP in 100 degree heat every weekend is your family's idea of relaxing fun, quality time and creating memories then knock yourself out. And yes, this is "forced" on everybody if your kid loves lax.
You might wish to consider the fun and good times had at these events, and the gainful outcomes brought about. We, at our home, have many great times, and will enjoy many more.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just keep in mind ... the tournament schedule will change after it is handed out.
Always- and the phony reasons for these changes keep improving!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2015 Express Blue has new coaches this year-Jack Moran (Chaminade), Doug Schreiber (St Anthony's) and Kevin Adler (St. Anthony's). 2015 White has the same Head coach as last year- Bob Pomponio (Chaminade). Both teams have a great collection of coaches.
Impressive as [lacrosse]. Will they really show up, go to tourney's, and be present at practice? This IS the Express, you know.
Nice representation ay UNC camp this past weekend as well as other LI clubs. Good job by all LI boys
The talent around the country is unbelievable. The most impressive players that I saw at every position were not from long island. Anybody for D3?
Bottom line Blue and White are a waste of time
Great Coaches but smoke and mirrors that's why
Most of St. Ants and Chaminades better players whom
don't play Orange play, play fl$, Jesters, outlaws
And a few others. With Express your kids just
a number for dollars!!!!
Great Coaches but smoke and mirrors that's why
Most of St. Ants and Chaminades better players whom
don't play Orange play, play fl$, Jesters, outlaws
And a few others. With Express your kids just
a number for dollars!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bottom line Blue and White are a waste of time
Great Coaches but smoke and mirrors that's why
Most of St. Ants and Chaminades better players whom
don't play Orange play, play fl$, Jesters, outlaws
And a few others. With Express your kids just
a number for dollars!!!!
Great Coaches but smoke and mirrors that's why
Most of St. Ants and Chaminades better players whom
don't play Orange play, play fl$, Jesters, outlaws
And a few others. With Express your kids just
a number for dollars!!!!
Jesters 9th grade team got flogged by a pick up team of express 9th,8th and 7th graders. ...there is talent there as well.
Jesters 9th grade team got flogged by a pick up team of express 9th,8th and 7th graders. ...there is talent there as well. [/quote]
No offense to either the Express or Jesters intended, however until other organizations and teams are willing to put in the resources and volume of work that the Express has (especially with Terps 2017 and 18) playing at their level will be difficult. There is no such thing as pick up when these teams are constantly practicing and scrimmaging with a "home" field.
They are winning with much greater preparedness, as teams now should be.
Other organizations can keep up or fall behind. Travel teams may be weaker overall, but there are many good players in theses age groups regardless. These players will find their way as individuals.
Someone said there were a couple of Ringers as well!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone said there were a couple of Ringers as well!!!
It was 85% Terps 2017, rest was 2016 Cudas and two from an outside club. Zero 7th graders. The only "ringers" where the Barracuda players, not the outsiders. A bunch of those Terp kids are as advertised.
Was talking 2015 current 10th grade, .2017 players are
Not being recruited yet, the conversations in
Regard to that.
Sure you're right about younger Jesters team,
2015 team that was down in Fla last year still
Strong but half of team left they will still destroy
Express Blue a. White, and will give Orange
a good run unless Orange plays top 15.
Not being recruited yet, the conversations in
Regard to that.
Sure you're right about younger Jesters team,
2015 team that was down in Fla last year still
Strong but half of team left they will still destroy
Express Blue a. White, and will give Orange
a good run unless Orange plays top 15.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone said there were a couple of Ringers as well!!!
It was 85% Terps 2017, rest was 2016 Cudas and two from an outside club. Zero 7th graders. The only "ringers" where the Barracuda players, not the outsiders. A bunch of those Terp kids are as advertised.
Yes, the Express CudaTerp mix was fun to watch. 1st they beat CT Chargers 2016 by about 7, than 2016 Jesters, I guess a team from CT was driving around Nassau Cty looking for a "pick up" game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone said there were a couple of Ringers as well!!!
It was 85% Terps 2017, rest was 2016 Cudas and two from an outside club. Zero 7th graders. The only "ringers" where the Barracuda players, not the outsiders. A bunch of those Terp kids are as advertised.
Yes, the Express CudaTerp mix was fun to watch. 1st they beat CT Chargers 2016 by about 7, than 2016 Jesters, I guess a team from CT was driving around Nassau Cty looking for a "pick up" game.
Were the Cudas included the ones that should be 2015 or the true 2016s?
not sure, but the Chargers and Jesters had plenty of 10th graders and lost to mostly 8th graders, it was primarily 8th grade express terp.
Cuda attackman responsible for most goals. I or 2 terp middies played well. Outsiders played well for not knowing team. Rest of them a bit sloppy. Most of the success from cudas and outsiders. Not from 85% Terps.
Cuda attackman was insane. Great player
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cuda attackman responsible for most goals. I or 2 terp middies played well. Outsiders played well for not knowing team. Rest of them a bit sloppy. Most of the success from cudas and outsiders. Not from 85% Terps.
What the person said was, 85% of the PLAYERS were from the TERPS. Pay attention what you read. And correct, the two cuda attack are great players and scored most the goals against Chargers. But how did the ball get to those attack man? Those 2 or 3 outsiders do they practice with the terps? The Terp attack looked pretty strong to me.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cuda attackman was insane. Great player
Anybody good was down at unc camp.
Only one terp attack played against the chargers. The rest of the terp attack sat. Middies played well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cuda attackman was insane. Great player
Anybody good was down at unc camp.
So what is it, all the good cudas where at unc camp OR the 2017 terps couldn't win without the 6 cudas OR the 2 cuda attack won both games alone OR the bulk of the team was terps OR cuda and terps combined to beat two good 9th grade teams by a good margin?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cuda attackman was insane. Great player
Anybody good was down at unc camp.
So what is it, all the good cudas where at unc camp OR the 2017 terps couldn't win without the 6 cudas OR the 2 cuda attack won both games alone OR the bulk of the team was terps OR cuda and terps combined to beat two good 9th grade teams by a good margin?
Or....if all the "good players" were at UNC maybe Chargers and Jesters kids were there as well.
So silly.........
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cuda attackman was insane. Great player
Anybody good was down at unc camp.
Your nuts. Two of the best cuda goal scorers played with terps on sunday. Two starters, two studs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cuda attackman responsible for most goals. I or 2 terp middies played well. Outsiders played well for not knowing team. Rest of them a bit sloppy. Most of the success from cudas and outsiders. Not from 85% Terps.
Who were the outsiders? From where?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cuda attackman was insane. Great player
Anybody good was down at unc camp.
Your nuts. Two of the best cuda goal scorers played with terps on sunday. Two starters, two studs.
Mirage - only looked like studs because they played with younger kids. I bet cudas were the oldest on the team. Who decided that was a great idea?
Instead of being called "Long Island Express", maybe named for the road most of the higher echelon travel, I think a better name would be "Highway Robbery". I would compare their pricing to the price gouging of gas for Superstorm Sandy, the only difference is there was a 10% anti-gouging law whereby gas prices could not be increased more than 10%. Too bad, there is no law that would govern this organization. Do the math, most of us are in the wrong business.
As for recruitment, last I checked, middle school kids aren't getting recruited to be charging these prices. I understand all personal choice, but if you are hoping to be St. Anthony's or Chaminade bound, it probably would be in your best interest to develop a relationship with Express, but at what cost?
As for recruitment, last I checked, middle school kids aren't getting recruited to be charging these prices. I understand all personal choice, but if you are hoping to be St. Anthony's or Chaminade bound, it probably would be in your best interest to develop a relationship with Express, but at what cost?
There were no 10th graders on any of the teams. And the Terps would have lost without the cudas and the others. The cudas/Terps only won by 2 or 3 goals.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Instead of being called "Long Island Express", maybe named for the road most of the higher echelon travel, I think a better name would be "Highway Robbery". I would compare their pricing to the price gouging of gas for Superstorm Sandy, the only difference is there was a 10% anti-gouging law whereby gas prices could not be increased more than 10%. Too bad, there is no law that would govern this organization. Do the math, most of us are in the wrong business.
As for recruitment, last I checked, middle school kids aren't getting recruited to be charging these prices. I understand all personal choice, but if you are hoping to be St. Anthony's or Chaminade bound, it probably would be in your best interest to develop a relationship with Express, but at what cost?
As for recruitment, last I checked, middle school kids aren't getting recruited to be charging these prices. I understand all personal choice, but if you are hoping to be St. Anthony's or Chaminade bound, it probably would be in your best interest to develop a relationship with Express, but at what cost?
Its called a FREE MARKET. Move along. Don't you have another law you have to write or something?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Instead of being called "Long Island Express", maybe named for the road most of the higher echelon travel, I think a better name would be "Highway Robbery". I would compare their pricing to the price gouging of gas for Superstorm Sandy, the only difference is there was a 10% anti-gouging law whereby gas prices could not be increased more than 10%. Too bad, there is no law that would govern this organization. Do the math, most of us are in the wrong business.
Law of supply and demand, I personally dont give a dam what people decide to do with their money. The man is making the most of the current travel lacrosse climate, can you really blame him for that?
We all have choices to make and for some people it works.
As for recruitment, last I checked, middle school kids aren't getting recruited to be charging these prices. I understand all personal choice, but if you are hoping to be St. Anthony's or Chaminade bound, it probably would be in your best interest to develop a relationship with Express, but at what cost?
Law of supply and demand, I personally dont give a dam what people decide to do with their money. The man is making the most of the current travel lacrosse climate, can you really blame him for that?
We all have choices to make and for some people it works.
As for recruitment, last I checked, middle school kids aren't getting recruited to be charging these prices. I understand all personal choice, but if you are hoping to be St. Anthony's or Chaminade bound, it probably would be in your best interest to develop a relationship with Express, but at what cost?
Law of supply and demand, I personally dont give a dam what people decide to do with their money. The man is making the most of the current travel lacrosse climate, can you really blame him for that?
We all have choices to make and for some people it works. Some people might look at it as an investment in their childs future. Say what you want, but they can coach and they have resources. Its really as simple as "You get what you pay for"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Instead of being called "Long Island Express", maybe named for the road most of the higher echelon travel, I think a better name would be "Highway Robbery". I would compare their pricing to the price gouging of gas for Superstorm Sandy, the only difference is there was a 10% anti-gouging law whereby gas prices could not be increased more than 10%. Too bad, there is no law that would govern this organization. Do the math, most of us are in the wrong business.
As for recruitment, last I checked, middle school kids aren't getting recruited to be charging these prices. I understand all personal choice, but if you are hoping to be St. Anthony's or Chaminade bound, it probably would be in your best interest to develop a relationship with Express, but at what cost?
As for recruitment, last I checked, middle school kids aren't getting recruited to be charging these prices. I understand all personal choice, but if you are hoping to be St. Anthony's or Chaminade bound, it probably would be in your best interest to develop a relationship with Express, but at what cost?
Good point. This has been mentioned on this thread before. If there are going to be multiple teams per grade and therefore mulitple levels of quality, recruiting support, quality/experience of coaching etc. Why not institute a tiered pricing scheme? If you drive the Mercedes you pay a high price - everybody understands that. But if you are asked to drive a Chevy Cruz you would not expect to pay the same price as the guy who gets to experience the Mercedes. Thats were dissention and animosity creeps in to the conversation about the Express. Its called trying to provide the best value prop to all levels of customers. All businesses do it and the Express (and other programs with multiple teams per grade) should think about the same if they want to keep families from looking elsewhere for a better value/price equation. Please, no need for some meathead to scream "FREE MARKET, MOVE ON" - that's not the basis for a constructive conversation among Express customers nor sound business advice to the Express Directiors who are trying to run a good and sustainable business. Just sayin'.
Wa wa wa - I did say personal choice, not my choice. It's just the chatter around the Long Island lacrosse world, take it for what it's worth. Maybe when you become educated on the pricing, you can better respond.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were no 10th graders on any of the teams. And the Terps would have lost without the cudas and the others. The cudas/Terps only won by 2 or 3 goals.
first gamt against CT Bolts 12-5 Terps, 2nd game vs Jesters 10-1 Terps, much more then 2 or 3
Not true, there are really good players on blue and white but agreed some have moved on.
Here's one kids, ditch the Phd idea and start a lacrosse program, you already have a name.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were no 10th graders on any of the teams. And the Terps would have lost without the cudas and the others. The cudas/Terps only won by 2 or 3 goals.
Terps only had 5 Barracudas play vs CT and only 1 Barracuda for Jesters game. Even without those players who are exceptional the Terps would have come away with 3 victories. The 2017 Terps are a very good and balanced team with great coaches.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were no 10th graders on any of the teams. And the Terps would have lost without the cudas and the others. The cudas/Terps only won by 2 or 3 goals.
Terps only had 5 Barracudas play vs CT and only 1 Barracuda for Jesters game. Even without those players who are exceptional the Terps would have come away with 3 victories. The 2017 Terps are a very good and balanced team with great coaches.
If they are so good why have any older cudas help out? What's the point? And what about the field time lost by the regular terp players to the mercinaries who show up? How is that ok? Typical express.
They only played 2 games. The 5 cudas and outsiders played most against CT chargers. These 5 or so players made the difference in a 2 goal game. Most of the Terps sat the first game or played very little. CT chargers are good not elite. Terps probably would not have won without the help. Nothing to be ashamed of just the truth. Outstanding coaching and they are a very good team. Jesters are weak.e
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were no 10th graders on any of the teams. And the Terps would have lost without the cudas and the others. The cudas/Terps only won by 2 or 3 goals.
Terps only had 5 Barracudas play vs CT and only 1 Barracuda for Jesters game. Even without those players who are exceptional the Terps would have come away with 3 victories. The 2017 Terps are a very good and balanced team with great coaches.
Your 2017 terps gave up 6 goals against 2016 teams and won which is impressive and your team plays and wins a lot. But isn't your roster growing which is around 31 players! No way all those kids play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were no 10th graders on any of the teams. And the Terps would have lost without the cudas and the others. The cudas/Terps only won by 2 or 3 goals.
Terps only had 5 Barracudas play vs CT and only 1 Barracuda for Jesters game. Even without those players who are exceptional the Terps would have come away with 3 victories. The 2017 Terps are a very good and balanced team with great coaches.
If they are so good why have any older cudas help out? What's the point? And what about the field time lost by the regular terp players to the mercinaries who show up? How is that ok? Typical express.
Was the regular 2017 terps team short a few and thats why the cudas showed up? Still no excuse ever for having older cudas play with younger terps. The right way is to have other 2017s from the other express teams in the grade fill in. So what if you don't go 3-0!! If I was a terp parent and my kid was short changed playing time because of this I'd be pissed. This is the kind of nonsense that the express does time and time again. And shame on the cuda parents for participating. How would the same cuda parents like it if some of the 2015 Orange kids showed up "to get a run in" at some cuda games and took up playing time from their precious cudas? My guess, wouldn't go over big.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were no 10th graders on any of the teams. And the Terps would have lost without the cudas and the others. The cudas/Terps only won by 2 or 3 goals.
Terps only had 5 Barracudas play vs CT and only 1 Barracuda for Jesters game. Even without those players who are exceptional the Terps would have come away with 3 victories. The 2017 Terps are a very good and balanced team with great coaches.
If they are so good why have any older cudas help out? What's the point? And what about the field time lost by the regular terp players to the mercinaries who show up? How is that ok? Typical express.
Was the regular 2017 terps team short a few and thats why the cudas showed up? Still no excuse ever for having older cudas play with younger terps. The right way is to have other 2017s from the other express teams in the grade fill in. So what if you don't go 3-0!! If I was a terp parent and my kid was short changed playing time because of this I'd be pissed. This is the kind of nonsense that the express does time and time again. And shame on the cuda parents for participating. How would the same cuda parents like it if some of the 2015 Orange kids showed up "to get a run in" at some cuda games and took up playing time from their precious cudas? My guess, wouldn't go over big.
Don't blame the cuda parents - they can't help themselves. The offer to play with younger kids is just too enticing.
How can the Terps 2017 be short of players? they have 75 kids on the roster. If you just say hello to MC he will put your kid on the team.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were no 10th graders on any of the teams. And the Terps would have lost without the cudas and the others. The cudas/Terps only won by 2 or 3 goals.
Terps only had 5 Barracudas play vs CT and only 1 Barracuda for Jesters game. Even without those players who are exceptional the Terps would have come away with 3 victories. The 2017 Terps are a very good and balanced team with great coaches.
If they are so good why have any older cudas help out? What's the point? And what about the field time lost by the regular terp players to the mercinaries who show up? How is that ok? Typical express.
Was the regular 2017 terps team short a few and thats why the cudas showed up? Still no excuse ever for having older cudas play with younger terps. The right way is to have other 2017s from the other express teams in the grade fill in. So what if you don't go 3-0!! If I was a terp parent and my kid was short changed playing time because of this I'd be pissed. This is the kind of nonsense that the express does time and time again. And shame on the cuda parents for participating. How would the same cuda parents like it if some of the 2015 Orange kids showed up "to get a run in" at some cuda games and took up playing time from their precious cudas? My guess, wouldn't go over big.
"was 2017 terms short a few", I don't think thats POSSIBLE!
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How can the Terps 2017 be short of players? they have 75 kids on the roster. If you just say hello to MC he will put your kid on the team.
Now that was funny!! But true.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were no 10th graders on any of the teams. And the Terps would have lost without the cudas and the others. The cudas/Terps only won by 2 or 3 goals.
Terps only had 5 Barracudas play vs CT and only 1 Barracuda for Jesters game. Even without those players who are exceptional the Terps would have come away with 3 victories. The 2017 Terps are a very good and balanced team with great coaches.
If they are so good why have any older cudas help out? What's the point? And what about the field time lost by the regular terp players to the mercinaries who show up? How is that ok? Typical express.
Was the regular 2017 terps team short a few and thats why the cudas showed up? Still no excuse ever for having older cudas play with younger terps. The right way is to have other 2017s from the other express teams in the grade fill in. So what if you don't go 3-0!! If I was a terp parent and my kid was short changed playing time because of this I'd be pissed. This is the kind of nonsense that the express does time and time again. And shame on the cuda parents for participating. How would the same cuda parents like it if some of the 2015 Orange kids showed up "to get a run in" at some cuda games and took up playing time from their precious cudas? My guess, wouldn't go over big.
"Wouldn't go over big" is a massive understatement. More like they would freak out and there would be mass outrage. I would love to see some of the 2015 Orange show up unannounced at a cuda event and see how it goes. But, that would never happen as the directors would most likely have it incredibly well orchestrated (or not happen at all) with the cuda parents unlike the lack of courtesy that was probably given to the terps parents who were probably surprised and not given any forwarning that the marines were on the way to save them. The bizarro world of the express.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were no 10th graders on any of the teams. And the Terps would have lost without the cudas and the others. The cudas/Terps only won by 2 or 3 goals.
Terps only had 5 Barracudas play vs CT and only 1 Barracuda for Jesters game. Even without those players who are exceptional the Terps would have come away with 3 victories. The 2017 Terps are a very good and balanced team with great coaches.
If they are so good why have any older cudas help out? What's the point? And what about the field time lost by the regular terp players to the mercinaries who show up? How is that ok? Typical express.
Was the regular 2017 terps team short a few and thats why the cudas showed up? Still no excuse ever for having older cudas play with younger terps. The right way is to have other 2017s from the other express teams in the grade fill in. So what if you don't go 3-0!! If I was a terp parent and my kid was short changed playing time because of this I'd be pissed. This is the kind of nonsense that the express does time and time again. And shame on the cuda parents for participating. How would the same cuda parents like it if some of the 2015 Orange kids showed up "to get a run in" at some cuda games and took up playing time from their precious cudas? My guess, wouldn't go over big.
Anxious to watch the fireworks when a few Turtles are "called up" (or some other ringers are found elewhere) to take time away from any non-starting cudas for the U15 in Florida. Thats the only way they can win it.
considering some of the terps are actually 2016's I get they dont play up
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Instead of being called "Long Island Express", maybe named for the road most of the higher echelon travel, I think a better name would be "Highway Robbery". I would compare their pricing to the price gouging of gas for Superstorm Sandy, the only difference is there was a 10% anti-gouging law whereby gas prices could not be increased more than 10%. Too bad, there is no law that would govern this organization. Do the math, most of us are in the wrong business.
As for recruitment, last I checked, middle school kids aren't getting recruited to be charging these prices. I understand all personal choice, but if you are hoping to be St. Anthony's or Chaminade bound, it probably would be in your best interest to develop a relationship with Express, but at what cost?
As for recruitment, last I checked, middle school kids aren't getting recruited to be charging these prices. I understand all personal choice, but if you are hoping to be St. Anthony's or Chaminade bound, it probably would be in your best interest to develop a relationship with Express, but at what cost?
Good point. This has been mentioned on this thread before. If there are going to be multiple teams per grade and therefore mulitple levels of quality, recruiting support, quality/experience of coaching etc. Why not institute a tiered pricing scheme? If you drive the Mercedes you pay a high price - everybody understands that. But if you are asked to drive a Chevy Cruz you would not expect to pay the same price as the guy who gets to experience the Mercedes. Thats were dissention and animosity creeps in to the conversation about the Express. Its called trying to provide the best value prop to all levels of customers. All businesses do it and the Express (and other programs with multiple teams per grade) should think about the same if they want to keep families from looking elsewhere for a better value/price equation. Please, no need for some meathead to scream "FREE MARKET, MOVE ON" - that's not the basis for a constructive conversation among Express customers nor sound business advice to the Express Directiors who are trying to run a good and sustainable business. Just sayin'.
I've seen tiered pricing in other club programs - at least in the younger grades. See below. Makes sense.
3rd Orange Registration Fee ($250.00)
4th Orange Registration Fee ($250.00)
5th Orange Registration Fee ($250.00)
3rd Blue Registration Fee ($150.00)
4th Blue Registration Fee ($150.00)
5th Blue Registration Fee ($150.00)
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Instead of being called "Long Island Express", maybe named for the road most of the higher echelon travel, I think a better name would be "Highway Robbery". I would compare their pricing to the price gouging of gas for Superstorm Sandy, the only difference is there was a 10% anti-gouging law whereby gas prices could not be increased more than 10%. Too bad, there is no law that would govern this organization. Do the math, most of us are in the wrong business.
As for recruitment, last I checked, middle school kids aren't getting recruited to be charging these prices. I understand all personal choice, but if you are hoping to be St. Anthony's or Chaminade bound, it probably would be in your best interest to develop a relationship with Express, but at what cost?
As for recruitment, last I checked, middle school kids aren't getting recruited to be charging these prices. I understand all personal choice, but if you are hoping to be St. Anthony's or Chaminade bound, it probably would be in your best interest to develop a relationship with Express, but at what cost?
Good point. This has been mentioned on this thread before. If there are going to be multiple teams per grade and therefore mulitple levels of quality, recruiting support, quality/experience of coaching etc. Why not institute a tiered pricing scheme? If you drive the Mercedes you pay a high price - everybody understands that. But if you are asked to drive a Chevy Cruz you would not expect to pay the same price as the guy who gets to experience the Mercedes. Thats were dissention and animosity creeps in to the conversation about the Express. Its called trying to provide the best value prop to all levels of customers. All businesses do it and the Express (and other programs with multiple teams per grade) should think about the same if they want to keep families from looking elsewhere for a better value/price equation. Please, no need for some meathead to scream "FREE MARKET, MOVE ON" - that's not the basis for a constructive conversation among Express customers nor sound business advice to the Express Directiors who are trying to run a good and sustainable business. Just sayin'.
I've seen tiered pricing in other club programs - at least in the younger grades. See below. Makes sense.
3rd Orange Registration Fee ($250.00)
4th Orange Registration Fee ($250.00)
5th Orange Registration Fee ($250.00)
3rd Blue Registration Fee ($150.00)
4th Blue Registration Fee ($150.00)
5th Blue Registration Fee ($150.00)
These prices are like a way-back roll-back to Express circa 2003. Pre-greed and fear.
That's why we live in America,options and choices if you don't like it go somewhere else.
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That's why we live in America,options and choices if you don't like it go somewhere else.
Oh, here we go. Meathead not wanting to discuss alternatives.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were no 10th graders on any of the teams. And the Terps would have lost without the cudas and the others. The cudas/Terps only won by 2 or 3 goals.
Terps only had 5 Barracudas play vs CT and only 1 Barracuda for Jesters game. Even without those players who are exceptional the Terps would have come away with 3 victories. The 2017 Terps are a very good and balanced team with great coaches.
If they are so good why have any older cudas help out? What's the point? And what about the field time lost by the regular terp players to the mercinaries who show up? How is that ok? Typical express.
Was the regular 2017 terps team short a few and thats why the cudas showed up? Still no excuse ever for having older cudas play with younger terps. The right way is to have other 2017s from the other express teams in the grade fill in. So what if you don't go 3-0!! If I was a terp parent and my kid was short changed playing time because of this I'd be pissed. This is the kind of nonsense that the express does time and time again. And shame on the cuda parents for participating. How would the same cuda parents like it if some of the 2015 Orange kids showed up "to get a run in" at some cuda games and took up playing time from their precious cudas? My guess, wouldn't go over big.
Anxious to watch the fireworks when a few Turtles are "called up" (or some other ringers are found elewhere) to take time away from any non-starting cudas for the U15 in Florida. Thats the only way they can win it.
Pretty sure the turtle will be there on their own
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's why we live in America,options and choices if you don't like it go somewhere else.
Oh, here we go. Meathead not wanting to discuss alternatives.
oh, hear we go with the name calling, I think they were discussing alternatives. the obvious one being "go somewhere else"
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's why we live in America,options and choices if you don't like it go somewhere else.
Oh, here we go. Meathead not wanting to discuss alternatives.
oh, hear we go with the name calling, I think they were discussing alternatives. the obvious one being "go somewhere else"
Meathead? Nice really ??? This forum has become a huge disappointment. I guess some of you need a place for disgruntled parents that don't like one organization or another for various reasons to do their bashing. Some of us would prefer to actually talk great lacrosse that is being played and coached by many different levels of kids. Respect others opinions and differences, try it, you may one day get some yourself.
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Meathead? Nice really ??? This forum has become a huge disappointment. I guess some of you need a place for disgruntled parents that don't like one organization or another for various reasons to do their bashing. Some of us would prefer to actually talk great lacrosse that is being played and coached by many different levels of kids. Respect others opinions and differences, try it, you may one day get some yourself.
Just read on the Express website,nice addition to the Express coaching staff AJ Haugen! Great guy!
Tiered pricing is the way to go, but probably won't happen until someone "moves on" and starts their own lacrosse club, and Express figures out that their pricing is usury minus the loan aspect. Any smarty pants out there get a 50% raise this year?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's why we live in America,options and choices if you don't like it go somewhere else.
Oh, here we go. Meathead not wanting to discuss alternatives.
oh, hear we go with the name calling, I think they were discussing alternatives. the obvious one being "go somewhere else"
c'mon man, are you kidding? - "go somewhere else, thats why we live in america" is the best you can do? Really? I gather you did not make the cut for your high school debate team. Why not take the side of the current "one price fits all" pricing scheme and defend its merits vs tiered pricing. Now that would be interesting. I haven't seen a good answer for this yet. Lets hear one.
one price fits all vs tiered pricing would indicate that the lower tiered coaches would be recieving inferior pay for their time unless all of the coaches were to pool their fees and be paid equally out of that.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
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one price fits all vs tiered pricing would indicate that the lower tiered coaches would be recieving inferior pay for their time unless all of the coaches were to pool their fees and be paid equally out of that.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
That sounds well and good but the reality is if you do some market research and speak to families that have been through a summer on an express team that isn't considered the top team, the attention paid (communication, # of practices, off-season tournaments in the fall, winter, spring, experience of coaches and attention from the directors) is a stark contrast from the top team (orange, cudas or whatever) in the grade. Everybody understands that not every team in a particular grade can receive the same amount of attention equally - its impossible - we get that. But, as such, the cost should be different too. There has been evidence posted on this board that other clubs are doing tiered pricing (fl$ Lite, good town clubs etc) so it would not be unique to the Express. My guess is that Express is pricing high for everybody because they can - not because its good business and customer centric. The model seems to be let the lower level teams subsidize the best teams when it should be the other way around and there would be a lot less bitching about the sticker shock of the lower level teams.
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one price fits all vs tiered pricing would indicate that the lower tiered coaches would be recieving inferior pay for their time unless all of the coaches were to pool their fees and be paid equally out of that.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
It's not realistic that you should expect the same level of coaching from top to bottom in a grade - you get MC or one of the other directors at the top and they are the best. Below that you get good coaching but definately not the best that the program has to offer and that the top teams are getting. As such, I would think you should pay less for that and even the lower team coaches would be ok with that and undersand where they are in the pecking order when it comes to compensation.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
one price fits all vs tiered pricing would indicate that the lower tiered coaches would be recieving inferior pay for their time unless all of the coaches were to pool their fees and be paid equally out of that.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
It's not realistic that you should expect the same level of coaching from top to bottom in a grade - you get MC or one of the other directors at the top and they are the best. Below that you get good coaching but definately not the best that the program has to offer and that the top teams are getting. As such, I would think you should pay less for that and even the lower team coaches would be ok with that and undersand where they are in the pecking order when it comes to compensation.
and you expect that the parents who are paying their fees to be ok with that sentiment? I think that is unrealistic...
All will want their kid to be exposed to the best that their money can buy and expect a program of the level of Express to establish uniform levels of coaching and not a "pecking order" of economy coaching.
would you settle for that?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
one price fits all vs tiered pricing would indicate that the lower tiered coaches would be recieving inferior pay for their time unless all of the coaches were to pool their fees and be paid equally out of that.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
It's not realistic that you should expect the same level of coaching from top to bottom in a grade - you get MC or one of the other directors at the top and they are the best. Below that you get good coaching but definately not the best that the program has to offer and that the top teams are getting. As such, I would think you should pay less for that and even the lower team coaches would be ok with that and undersand where they are in the pecking order when it comes to compensation.
and you expect that the parents who are paying their fees to be ok with that sentiment? I think that is unrealistic...
All will want their kid to be exposed to the best that their money can buy and expect a program of the level of Express to establish uniform levels of coaching and not a "pecking order" of economy coaching.
would you settle for that?
If I'm realistic about my kid's ability I'm fine with it. But most parents are not realistic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
one price fits all vs tiered pricing would indicate that the lower tiered coaches would be recieving inferior pay for their time unless all of the coaches were to pool their fees and be paid equally out of that.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
It's not realistic that you should expect the same level of coaching from top to bottom in a grade - you get MC or one of the other directors at the top and they are the best. Below that you get good coaching but definately not the best that the program has to offer and that the top teams are getting. As such, I would think you should pay less for that and even the lower team coaches would be ok with that and undersand where they are in the pecking order when it comes to compensation.
and you expect that the parents who are paying their fees to be ok with that sentiment? I think that is unrealistic...
All will want their kid to be exposed to the best that their money can buy and expect a program of the level of Express to establish uniform levels of coaching and not a "pecking order" of economy coaching.
would you settle for that?
If I'm realistic about my kid's ability I'm fine with it. But most parents are not realistic.
true that...thus the conflicts and petty arguments about who is better and bigger and faster and ...ad nauseum
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
one price fits all vs tiered pricing would indicate that the lower tiered coaches would be recieving inferior pay for their time unless all of the coaches were to pool their fees and be paid equally out of that.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
It's not realistic that you should expect the same level of coaching from top to bottom in a grade - you get MC or one of the other directors at the top and they are the best. Below that you get good coaching but definately not the best that the program has to offer and that the top teams are getting. As such, I would think you should pay less for that and even the lower team coaches would be ok with that and undersand where they are in the pecking order when it comes to compensation.
and you expect that the parents who are paying their fees to be ok with that sentiment? I think that is unrealistic...
All will want their kid to be exposed to the best that their money can buy and expect a program of the level of Express to establish uniform levels of coaching and not a "pecking order" of economy coaching.
would you settle for that?
Uniform levels? - you really believe that? what kind of fantasy land do you live in? Would the Express have the guts to advertise "uniform levels of coaching" regardless of team? Of course not, nobody would believe it. Please, we are adults and the concept of "A" team, "B" team and "C" team is not foreign to anybody. It's ok - until you want to charge "A" team service for a "C" team experience. All I'm saying is that the Express should try tiered pricing (as others have) and see how it goes. I bet the response would be overwhelmingly positive.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
one price fits all vs tiered pricing would indicate that the lower tiered coaches would be recieving inferior pay for their time unless all of the coaches were to pool their fees and be paid equally out of that.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
It's not realistic that you should expect the same level of coaching from top to bottom in a grade - you get MC or one of the other directors at the top and they are the best. Below that you get good coaching but definately not the best that the program has to offer and that the top teams are getting. As such, I would think you should pay less for that and even the lower team coaches would be ok with that and undersand where they are in the pecking order when it comes to compensation.
and you expect that the parents who are paying their fees to be ok with that sentiment? I think that is unrealistic...
All will want their kid to be exposed to the best that their money can buy and expect a program of the level of Express to establish uniform levels of coaching and not a "pecking order" of economy coaching.
would you settle for that?
Uniform levels? - you really believe that? what kind of fantasy land do you live in? Would the Express have the guts to advertise "uniform levels of coaching" regardless of team? Of course not, nobody would believe it. Please, we are adults and the concept of "A" team, "B" team and "C" team is not foreign to anybody. It's ok - until you want to charge "A" team service for a "C" team experience. All I'm saying is that the Express should try tiered pricing (as others have) and see how it goes. I bet the response would be overwhelmingly positive.
its a discusion...not an argument. clearly all options are on the table for review. it was asked for an argument for or against...it has to start somewhere.
I stillfeel that bargain hunters then should not be disappointed with bargain results...as they say, "ya gets whats ya pays for"..
is that really what you want? I'd rather pay more and insist on higher levels of coaching; else move to a different program to satisfy tht need.
hopefully, all of the high LIE fees will go towards that end. (I know...wishful thinking!)
Do you think a 6th grade player should pay the same as a high school player?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
one price fits all vs tiered pricing would indicate that the lower tiered coaches would be recieving inferior pay for their time unless all of the coaches were to pool their fees and be paid equally out of that.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
then there is the question of how to determine a tier? what happens if that team does great and moves up? do they pay more, or less if they move down?
one price seems to fit as you'd expect same level of coaching and not expect that your higher or lower fee means you're paying to be on a good or lesser team, so to speak; but rather paying to ensure that the younger and less experienced will recieve the same level of coaching and expertise regardless of ability of the player. Thus, hopefully all levels of players will continue to grow in ablility and confidence.
It's not realistic that you should expect the same level of coaching from top to bottom in a grade - you get MC or one of the other directors at the top and they are the best. Below that you get good coaching but definately not the best that the program has to offer and that the top teams are getting. As such, I would think you should pay less for that and even the lower team coaches would be ok with that and undersand where they are in the pecking order when it comes to compensation.
and you expect that the parents who are paying their fees to be ok with that sentiment? I think that is unrealistic...
All will want their kid to be exposed to the best that their money can buy and expect a program of the level of Express to establish uniform levels of coaching and not a "pecking order" of economy coaching.
would you settle for that?
Uniform levels? - you really believe that? what kind of fantasy land do you live in? Would the Express have the guts to advertise "uniform levels of coaching" regardless of team? Of course not, nobody would believe it. Please, we are adults and the concept of "A" team, "B" team and "C" team is not foreign to anybody. It's ok - until you want to charge "A" team service for a "C" team experience. All I'm saying is that the Express should try tiered pricing (as others have) and see how it goes. I bet the response would be overwhelmingly positive.
its a discusion...not an argument. clearly all options are on the table for review. it was asked for an argument for or against...it has to start somewhere.
I stillfeel that bargain hunters then should not be disappointed with bargain results...as they say, "ya gets whats ya pays for"..
is that really what you want? I'd rather pay more and insist on higher levels of coaching; else move to a different program to satisfy tht need.
hopefully, all of the high LIE fees will go towards that end. (I know...wishful thinking!)
Its not just the difference in the coaching (there is no way that Mike C or anybody of similar caliber is going to spend an entire hot summer coaching a "C" team.) Aside from that, its the entire rest of the experience. The "A" teams are practicing and doing tournaments/scrimmages all-year round. The "B" and "C" teams won't see much of eachother until the summer. In the older grades the "C" and most of the "B" (except for a couple) will not get much recruiting support/exposure because the directors are completely consumed with placing the "A" team kids. Thats fine as many (except a few) on the "B" and "C" are probably not good enough to play college anyway - at least not D1. That's ok and I can understand that the directors want to spend their time with the kids that have the highest chance of being placed onto D1 rosters - no issue there, I get it. But, those disparities in the overall experience justify not paying the same price across the board.
I don't think that all the non "A" team coaches are inferior, so why discriminate and pay an "A" team coach differently than a "B" team coach. Besides, don't some of these guys coach multiple teams at multiple levels especially the directors, I don't think they change their coaching style or performance as a coach at least I hope not. With the amount of money coming into this organization, I think there is enough to make everyone happy and still charge tiered pricing. The cost went up dramatically in one year, probably $800 per player. $800 x 20 teams (minimum) x 25 players = are you kidding? We are worried about how we are compensating the coaches?? Does the same teacher make more or less money if they teach an AP math class one period and regular math class the next? This is not about the great coaches and who they coach, they will be there as long as the organization is around, it's about the kids and exposure and hopefully recruitment. Simply put, a 7th grade athlete is not being recruited the same way an 11th grade athlete is nor does an "A" team player get the same exposure in the same grade on a "C" team. They attend different tournaments, which demand different amounts of money, and draw a different amount and level of college coaches. Let's be real, if an "A" and a "C" team attended Tristate, where are the college coaches looking first and possibly never giving "C" the time of day. Are they looking at the teams competing at the top level or the tier 3 team?
The number of teams is irrelevant and could be off, but even if they had 20 (more realistic number), players on a team with a substantial differential for "A" team players ($1,200), proper compensation for the coaches at all levels would be a moot point.
This can work at all ages. In the younger years, families may not see the value in traveling incurring what proves to be an unnecessary expense since it won't impact their later years where colleges start reaching out and it matters most. The most important thing in the Summer for primary grades is that the kids have a stick in their hand and are playing on a good club team being coached by great coaches, i.e. Express. There are also those kids that want to be the best on their team or still building their confidence levels to play with A team players, it could be immature, but it certainly is a possibility especially at the younger years where confidence levels are developing. It doesn't benefit a 10 year old to play on an "A" team if they are going to be a benchwarmer, that child's parents may choose after facing this reality or experience, my kid is better off playing for a different coach or not an "A" team until he matures both physically and mentally, again given that option. It happens in many sports and parents dont often share this with others especially since it could be a sensitive matter and involves a child and a parental choice.
If you had tiered pricing, it might change the makeup of the "A" team in the high school years. Since college interest seems to be getting earlier and earlier, in the high school years, this allows opportunities for better college exposure at an earlier age leading to hopefully more athletes receiving the college interest they desire and more college commitments, a win win!! Yes, ultimately, the entire A team could switch to B. Some of the older better players may also have gained the interest of the coaches they desire and/or may prefer to put price differential money into showcasing solo rather than being on an A team. Solo showcasing can be beneficial as well since if you do not get adequate playing time on your Summer travel team, the college coach you are trying to impress may not even see your talent since you may have been in the game minimally and possibly not made a positive lasting impression in the time allotted. Its much easier and more controlled with individual showcasing. Most parents/players wont have the gumption or opportunity to approach a travel team coach to work the issue of playtime out until it may be too late. Colleges and showcase applications only want to know what Summer team you play on, they dont ask A, B or C, Express is reputable and impressive enough.
If you are going to have different levels of play, it will take some coordination at the beginning but perhaps more satisfied customers in the end. At the time of the tryout calling, the price structure, coaches and tournaments to be attended by all levels should be announced. If all of this information is not available, which the majority should be available, provide what is, at the very least the pricing especially if there is a spike.
The more informed people are, the happier they will be especially when it has to do with planning and finance. Whatever the balance of the information is then available at the actual tryout, this information should be disclosed. Finally, this information is most critical especially when there is a spike, and if necessary, people have opportunities to shop around without it being too late and other organizations teams are already formed.
Based on a tryout, the "A" team players should be approached first, given all the particulars again, i.e. tournament to be attended and coaching menus for the upcoming Summer for all levels and let them choose:
$2900 A
$1700 B
$1600 C if available
People would have the opportunity to review and better plan for the balance of their Summer without concerning themselves with an overlap or conflict of any sort. Additionally, people will know what they are paying for most importantly. Certainly people deserve to be informed of pricing especially when there is a spike, and budgeting could be a concern, not everyone wants to share their financial concern, its awkward and not something easily spoken about.
The soonest this information is available, the better, you know what you are paying for as well before you are approached for a team, a true time saving tool when those invites go out. Families can make intelligent financial decisions especially since parents are certainly a part of process. It also opens up the option of shopping around if this is not the pricing you, and not when the kid is already invited on an A team and wants to play and the family is shocked and possibly not able to face this bill.
Invites for the A team would be first and staggered until the positions are filled. They could reach out to the balance of their initial targets for the other teams at the same time, and simply state, we are inviting you to play for our organization for this Summer, we will be contacting you shortly as to what team you are being considered for. The B team may fill faster or may not, its worth a try.
Ultimately, the entire A team can go to B, and visa versa because everyones needs have been met, leading to getting what you pay for and a job well done by Express. Let the parents decide what works best for their kid and their pockets in the right order, A team players first, and at the same time, the organization will be taking in the same amount of money. College interest is getting earlier and earlier, it may not be necessary for a some high school players to pay big bucks for their Summer travel teams when they have already gained the interest they desire. In the high school years, if an original A team player goes to B, chances are Express has done their job well, and most importantly customers are satisfied since they were part of the decision. For parents or kids who care what team their kid was asked to be on, kids talk, everyone will know the initial A invites and the subsequent second stringers, its part of life, and what does it really matter in the end when you were part of the decision making process. Everyone likes to say their kid is on an A team, its normal, but if youre confident in your kids ability, he will rise on a B team, if youre good, you can rise at an individual showcase event, after a while it becomes overkill, the over achievers and wealthy will still pay the A team price even though their kid already has the interest they desire, but there could be some who will be realistic and say, My kids needs are met, I dont need to spend $2900 to play this Summer, or I can holdoff because my kid is too young, I dont have the money, I want to save the money and put it towards other lacrosse events or workouts to hopefully enhance his skills, or he is getting or will be getting the support from his high school coach or recruiting service that he needs, all these are options and certainly possibilities.
This can work at all ages. In the younger years, families may not see the value in traveling incurring what proves to be an unnecessary expense since it won't impact their later years where colleges start reaching out and it matters most. The most important thing in the Summer for primary grades is that the kids have a stick in their hand and are playing on a good club team being coached by great coaches, i.e. Express. There are also those kids that want to be the best on their team or still building their confidence levels to play with A team players, it could be immature, but it certainly is a possibility especially at the younger years where confidence levels are developing. It doesn't benefit a 10 year old to play on an "A" team if they are going to be a benchwarmer, that child's parents may choose after facing this reality or experience, my kid is better off playing for a different coach or not an "A" team until he matures both physically and mentally, again given that option. It happens in many sports and parents dont often share this with others especially since it could be a sensitive matter and involves a child and a parental choice.
If you had tiered pricing, it might change the makeup of the "A" team in the high school years. Since college interest seems to be getting earlier and earlier, in the high school years, this allows opportunities for better college exposure at an earlier age leading to hopefully more athletes receiving the college interest they desire and more college commitments, a win win!! Yes, ultimately, the entire A team could switch to B. Some of the older better players may also have gained the interest of the coaches they desire and/or may prefer to put price differential money into showcasing solo rather than being on an A team. Solo showcasing can be beneficial as well since if you do not get adequate playing time on your Summer travel team, the college coach you are trying to impress may not even see your talent since you may have been in the game minimally and possibly not made a positive lasting impression in the time allotted. Its much easier and more controlled with individual showcasing. Most parents/players wont have the gumption or opportunity to approach a travel team coach to work the issue of playtime out until it may be too late. Colleges and showcase applications only want to know what Summer team you play on, they dont ask A, B or C, Express is reputable and impressive enough.
If you are going to have different levels of play, it will take some coordination at the beginning but perhaps more satisfied customers in the end. At the time of the tryout calling, the price structure, coaches and tournaments to be attended by all levels should be announced. If all of this information is not available, which the majority should be available, provide what is, at the very least the pricing especially if there is a spike.
The more informed people are, the happier they will be especially when it has to do with planning and finance. Whatever the balance of the information is then available at the actual tryout, this information should be disclosed. Finally, this information is most critical especially when there is a spike, and if necessary, people have opportunities to shop around without it being too late and other organizations teams are already formed.
Based on a tryout, the "A" team players should be approached first, given all the particulars again, i.e. tournament to be attended and coaching menus for the upcoming Summer for all levels and let them choose:
$2900 A
$1700 B
$1600 C if available
People would have the opportunity to review and better plan for the balance of their Summer without concerning themselves with an overlap or conflict of any sort. Additionally, people will know what they are paying for most importantly. Certainly people deserve to be informed of pricing especially when there is a spike, and budgeting could be a concern, not everyone wants to share their financial concern, its awkward and not something easily spoken about.
The soonest this information is available, the better, you know what you are paying for as well before you are approached for a team, a true time saving tool when those invites go out. Families can make intelligent financial decisions especially since parents are certainly a part of process. It also opens up the option of shopping around if this is not the pricing you, and not when the kid is already invited on an A team and wants to play and the family is shocked and possibly not able to face this bill.
Invites for the A team would be first and staggered until the positions are filled. They could reach out to the balance of their initial targets for the other teams at the same time, and simply state, we are inviting you to play for our organization for this Summer, we will be contacting you shortly as to what team you are being considered for. The B team may fill faster or may not, its worth a try.
Ultimately, the entire A team can go to B, and visa versa because everyones needs have been met, leading to getting what you pay for and a job well done by Express. Let the parents decide what works best for their kid and their pockets in the right order, A team players first, and at the same time, the organization will be taking in the same amount of money. College interest is getting earlier and earlier, it may not be necessary for a some high school players to pay big bucks for their Summer travel teams when they have already gained the interest they desire. In the high school years, if an original A team player goes to B, chances are Express has done their job well, and most importantly customers are satisfied since they were part of the decision. For parents or kids who care what team their kid was asked to be on, kids talk, everyone will know the initial A invites and the subsequent second stringers, its part of life, and what does it really matter in the end when you were part of the decision making process. Everyone likes to say their kid is on an A team, its normal, but if youre confident in your kids ability, he will rise on a B team, if youre good, you can rise at an individual showcase event, after a while it becomes overkill, the over achievers and wealthy will still pay the A team price even though their kid already has the interest they desire, but there could be some who will be realistic and say, My kids needs are met, I dont need to spend $2900 to play this Summer, or I can holdoff because my kid is too young, I dont have the money, I want to save the money and put it towards other lacrosse events or workouts to hopefully enhance his skills, or he is getting or will be getting the support from his high school coach or recruiting service that he needs, all these are options and certainly possibilities.
That is definitely not true. He coached both his sons in 91 last year. This is his first time coaching Express. He was all over the tournaments and at practices coaching 91 last year and he coached my friends son at 91 last year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No question - quality coaches. But will anybody see them play besides parents?
If a tree falls in the woods...are the directors embarrassed to put this team in front of college coaches against other elite teams? The schedule will tell all.
Now that the schedule is out can somebody post it for 2015 blue and white? Hope they are going to get good exposure.
Does the Express have a 3rd grade team? I could not tell by looking at their website. I know it's probably too late but I am thinking about teams for my son next year (when he will be in 4th grade). He is a very good player but probably not at "elite" level and thus want to find a good fit for him. Thank you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No question - quality coaches. But will anybody see them play besides parents?
If a tree falls in the woods...are the directors embarrassed to put this team in front of college coaches against other elite teams? The schedule will tell all.
Now that the schedule is out can somebody post it for 2015 blue and white? Hope they are going to get good exposure.
If the schedule and exposure clearly justifies the $2400 cost it will be posted. If it doesn't... hmmm.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No question - quality coaches. But will anybody see them play besides parents?
If a tree falls in the woods...are the directors embarrassed to put this team in front of college coaches against other elite teams? The schedule will tell all.
Now that the schedule is out can somebody post it for 2015 blue and white? Hope they are going to get good exposure.
If the schedule and exposure clearly justifies the $2400 cost it will be posted. If it doesn't... hmmm.
As a very longtime lax parent ...just wondering how you"justify the cost" What one person sees as fair another deems robbery. So for each player the needs,wants and results will be an individual justification. So like I say you don't like the price tag,dont buy it. Find another product that is right for your family.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No question - quality coaches. But will anybody see them play besides parents?
If a tree falls in the woods...are the directors embarrassed to put this team in front of college coaches against other elite teams? The schedule will tell all.
Now that the schedule is out can somebody post it for 2015 blue and white? Hope they are going to get good exposure.
If the schedule and exposure clearly justifies the $2400 cost it will be posted. If it doesn't... hmmm.
As a very longtime lax parent ...just wondering how you"justify the cost" What one person sees as fair another deems robbery. So for each player the needs,wants and results will be an individual justification. So like I say you don't like the price tag,dont buy it. Find another product that is right for your family.
This is a huge recruiting summer for these boys - nothing else matters except the schedule. It'll be clear to even the casual parent if the schedule delivers the recruiting exposure they desperately need. Anybody dare post it?
If you are an Express parent that has a son on the teams in question you will have the schedule and you can decide if you like the product or not. Again if you do not feel it fits your needs, go look for another option. As far a big recruiting year for those boys, it seems 8th and 9th grade are becoming the more important years. Read Inside Lacrosse online list of 2015 and 2016 commits. I would be more concerned with the schedules of the younger age groups.
2015 Blue-
NYLA, King of the Hill, Tri-State, Hofstra Warrior
NYLA, King of the Hill, Tri-State, Hofstra Warrior
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are an Express parent that has a son on the teams in question you will have the schedule and you can decide if you like the product or not. Again if you do not feel it fits your needs, go look for another option. As far a big recruiting year for those boys, it seems 8th and 9th grade are becoming the more important years. Read Inside Lacrosse online list of 2015 and 2016 commits. I would be more concerned with the schedules of the younger age groups.
Relax. There will be plenty of opportunities left for the 2015s this summer - look at all the great D3 schools, the Ivy's and several other terrific D1 conferences like the Patriot. Those schools are still looking for some 2014s right now so you can assume that they probably wont be done with their 2015s until this time next year. Only the ACC and Hopkins will be off the table by the summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2015 Blue-
NYLA, King of the Hill, Tri-State, Hofstra Warrior
NYLA, King of the Hill, Tri-State, Hofstra Warrior
Not terrible but the brackets at these tournaments will be important. If they are in AA/Elite brackets this schedule can work. Would be interesting to compare with other comparible club options such as Ballers, Jesters and Outlaws. Anybody with a 2015 kid in those programs please post if you can.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are an Express parent that has a son on the teams in question you will have the schedule and you can decide if you like the product or not. Again if you do not feel it fits your needs, go look for another option. As far a big recruiting year for those boys, it seems 8th and 9th grade are becoming the more important years. Read Inside Lacrosse online list of 2015 and 2016 commits. I would be more concerned with the schedules of the younger age groups.
Relax. There will be plenty of opportunities left for the 2015s this summer - look at all the great D3 schools, the Ivy's and several other terrific D1 conferences like the Patriot. Those schools are still looking for some 2014s right now so you can assume that they probably wont be done with their 2015s until this time next year. Only the ACC and Hopkins will be off the table by the summer.
Looking at the 2014 verbal list there are some excellent schools and programs that are still not near capacity. True that not every verbal is caputred by insidelacrosse but I think this shows that everyobdy should take a deep breath and calm down about any preception about a stampede to commit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are an Express parent that has a son on the teams in question you will have the schedule and you can decide if you like the product or not. Again if you do not feel it fits your needs, go look for another option. As far a big recruiting year for those boys, it seems 8th and 9th grade are becoming the more important years. Read Inside Lacrosse online list of 2015 and 2016 commits. I would be more concerned with the schedules of the younger age groups.
Relax. There will be plenty of opportunities left for the 2015s this summer - look at all the great D3 schools, the Ivy's and several other terrific D1 conferences like the Patriot. Those schools are still looking for some 2014s right now so you can assume that they probably wont be done with their 2015s until this time next year. Only the ACC and Hopkins will be off the table by the summer.
Looking at the 2014 verbal list there are some excellent schools and programs that are still not near capacity. True that not every verbal is caputred by insidelacrosse but I think this shows that everyobdy should take a deep breath and calm down about any preception about a stampede to commit.
Unless your 2016-2017 kid is [lacrosse] bent on Maryland, Hopkins, UVA or UNC there is plenty of time.
Agreed. Why is it that people question the pricing?
As a small business owner, my price is my price. If you don't like it don't buy it. I don't need or want your business.
I've done my research on pricing structure for a superior product and I know the sweet spot in pricing that's going to give me the return I need to continue to run my business, and create a profit.
And I'm not going to lower it because of people who think they are entitled to a lower price, or because they think they know better. Maybe we can share the wealth and share the talent to make it a level playing field.
Do you go into the grocery store and negotiate/complain about the price of something on the shelves?
Do you negotiate/complain about the price of the pair of jeans your going to buy?
No. You either buy it or you don't. This isn't any different. And just because it's not a tangible cereal box you can grab, so many people think its different. It's baffling.
It doesn't matter if it's products or services.
Business is business. Get over it.
My 2 cents.
As a small business owner, my price is my price. If you don't like it don't buy it. I don't need or want your business.
I've done my research on pricing structure for a superior product and I know the sweet spot in pricing that's going to give me the return I need to continue to run my business, and create a profit.
And I'm not going to lower it because of people who think they are entitled to a lower price, or because they think they know better. Maybe we can share the wealth and share the talent to make it a level playing field.
Do you go into the grocery store and negotiate/complain about the price of something on the shelves?
Do you negotiate/complain about the price of the pair of jeans your going to buy?
No. You either buy it or you don't. This isn't any different. And just because it's not a tangible cereal box you can grab, so many people think its different. It's baffling.
It doesn't matter if it's products or services.
Business is business. Get over it.
My 2 cents.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Why is it that people question the pricing?
As a small business owner, my price is my price. If you don't like it don't buy it. I don't need or want your business.
I've done my research on pricing structure for a superior product and I know the sweet spot in pricing that's going to give me the return I need to continue to run my business, and create a profit.
And I'm not going to lower it because of people who think they are entitled to a lower price, or because they think they know better. Maybe we can share the wealth and share the talent to make it a level playing field.
Do you go into the grocery store and negotiate/complain about the price of something on the shelves?
Do you negotiate/complain about the price of the pair of jeans your going to buy?
No. You either buy it or you don't. This isn't any different. And just because it's not a tangible cereal box you can grab, so many people think its different. It's baffling.
It doesn't matter if it's products or services.
Business is business. Get over it.
My 2 cents.
As a small business owner, my price is my price. If you don't like it don't buy it. I don't need or want your business.
I've done my research on pricing structure for a superior product and I know the sweet spot in pricing that's going to give me the return I need to continue to run my business, and create a profit.
And I'm not going to lower it because of people who think they are entitled to a lower price, or because they think they know better. Maybe we can share the wealth and share the talent to make it a level playing field.
Do you go into the grocery store and negotiate/complain about the price of something on the shelves?
Do you negotiate/complain about the price of the pair of jeans your going to buy?
No. You either buy it or you don't. This isn't any different. And just because it's not a tangible cereal box you can grab, so many people think its different. It's baffling.
It doesn't matter if it's products or services.
Business is business. Get over it.
My 2 cents.
It's not the price of the "A" team that anybody is complaining about. It s the fact of being charged the same price for an inferior experience (product) for the "B" and "C" team. Even a small business owner has different prices for different products and believe me if you live through a painful summer on the "B" or "C" team you'll find out the hard way that the product you paid the "A" team price for was not even close to the experience the "A" team families received. It's a pretty simple concept really I'm not sure why people can't wrap their heads around tiered pricing for different Express teams when other clubs are doing it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Why is it that people question the pricing?
As a small business owner, my price is my price. If you don't like it don't buy it. I don't need or want your business.
I've done my research on pricing structure for a superior product and I know the sweet spot in pricing that's going to give me the return I need to continue to run my business, and create a profit.
And I'm not going to lower it because of people who think they are entitled to a lower price, or because they think they know better. Maybe we can share the wealth and share the talent to make it a level playing field.
Do you go into the grocery store and negotiate/complain about the price of something on the shelves?
Do you negotiate/complain about the price of the pair of jeans your going to buy?
No. You either buy it or you don't. This isn't any different. And just because it's not a tangible cereal box you can grab, so many people think its different. It's baffling.
It doesn't matter if it's products or services.
Business is business. Get over it.
My 2 cents.
As a small business owner, my price is my price. If you don't like it don't buy it. I don't need or want your business.
I've done my research on pricing structure for a superior product and I know the sweet spot in pricing that's going to give me the return I need to continue to run my business, and create a profit.
And I'm not going to lower it because of people who think they are entitled to a lower price, or because they think they know better. Maybe we can share the wealth and share the talent to make it a level playing field.
Do you go into the grocery store and negotiate/complain about the price of something on the shelves?
Do you negotiate/complain about the price of the pair of jeans your going to buy?
No. You either buy it or you don't. This isn't any different. And just because it's not a tangible cereal box you can grab, so many people think its different. It's baffling.
It doesn't matter if it's products or services.
Business is business. Get over it.
My 2 cents.
+ $0.02
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Why is it that people question the pricing?
As a small business owner, my price is my price. If you don't like it don't buy it. I don't need or want your business.
I've done my research on pricing structure for a superior product and I know the sweet spot in pricing that's going to give me the return I need to continue to run my business, and create a profit.
And I'm not going to lower it because of people who think they are entitled to a lower price, or because they think they know better. Maybe we can share the wealth and share the talent to make it a level playing field.
Do you go into the grocery store and negotiate/complain about the price of something on the shelves?
Do you negotiate/complain about the price of the pair of jeans your going to buy?
No. You either buy it or you don't. This isn't any different. And just because it's not a tangible cereal box you can grab, so many people think its different. It's baffling.
It doesn't matter if it's products or services.
Business is business. Get over it.
My 2 cents.
As a small business owner, my price is my price. If you don't like it don't buy it. I don't need or want your business.
I've done my research on pricing structure for a superior product and I know the sweet spot in pricing that's going to give me the return I need to continue to run my business, and create a profit.
And I'm not going to lower it because of people who think they are entitled to a lower price, or because they think they know better. Maybe we can share the wealth and share the talent to make it a level playing field.
Do you go into the grocery store and negotiate/complain about the price of something on the shelves?
Do you negotiate/complain about the price of the pair of jeans your going to buy?
No. You either buy it or you don't. This isn't any different. And just because it's not a tangible cereal box you can grab, so many people think its different. It's baffling.
It doesn't matter if it's products or services.
Business is business. Get over it.
My 2 cents.
THANK YOU! That is a great post!!!
Go to a club that you are comfortable with the price. As a parent that has a son on the " A" team I dont know why anyone would want to pay the Express price then have to endure a summer of B/C team lacrosse. Trust me if the day comes when my son doesn't make the "A" team I'm done with the Express. You have many other options. As long as people are willing to pay the price why should the price be reduced.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go to a club that you are comfortable with the price. As a parent that has a son on the " A" team I dont know why anyone would want to pay the Express price then have to endure a summer of B/C team lacrosse. Trust me if the day comes when my son doesn't make the "A" team I'm done with the Express. You have many other options. As long as people are willing to pay the price why should the price be reduced.
this is NOT meant to be a knock on 91 or Express or to diminish the high level of training they provide. The next 4 or 5 years should be interesting. Is it my imagination or are indoor turf places opening all over the darn place. Now how many great lax players has LI produced ? I realize they are all busy making millions in the MLL but maybe they force themselves away from the from the pro lax gravy train to coach a youth team. YOu get a couple of smart ex players from a high level, throw in the availibility of places to train all year and leagues and tourneys all over and me thinks the big boys will have some competition with smaller programs who simply wont have as many hands in the till yet can offer quality But hey what a whino
love the fact that the price is the highest... it proves that we are the best cause us parents are willing to pay it!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
love the fact that the price is the highest... it proves that we are the best cause us parents are willing to pay it!!!!
Best at what though ? Many people play for Express becasue they feel its a pipeline to the Catholic schools, almost like donating to a big college with the understanding they will let your kid in.
Does anyone know how good the 2022 Express team is?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Many people play for Express becasue they feel its a pipeline to the Catholic schools, almost like donating to a big college with the understanding they will let your kid in.
And many people have their kids play for the express because they feel it is the best fit for their son to become a better lacrosse player, my son is in a public school and will be going to a public HS and is going to be a better lacrosse player because of the coaching he gets on express and because of the talent level of the kids he practices with and against, yeah I wish it was less money but I also wish I had a Maserati, I was in a higher tax bracket and wasn't so uncomfortably good looking.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how good the 2022 Express team is?
Looks like they are holding their own with 2nd and 3rd grade town teams in the indoor winter league
ANY word when the 2020 Orange Schedule will be coming out? Our family is trying to make summer vacation plands and have NO idea of dates
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go to a club that you are comfortable with the price. As a parent that has a son on the " A" team I dont know why anyone would want to pay the Express price then have to endure a summer of B/C team lacrosse. Trust me if the day comes when my son doesn't make the "A" team I'm done with the Express. You have many other options. As long as people are willing to pay the price why should the price be reduced.
this is NOT meant to be a knock on 91 or Express or to diminish the high level of training they provide. The next 4 or 5 years should be interesting. Is it my imagination or are indoor turf places opening all over the darn place. Now how many great lax players has LI produced ? I realize they are all busy making millions in the MLL but maybe they force themselves away from the from the pro lax gravy train to coach a youth team. YOu get a couple of smart ex players from a high level, throw in the availibility of places to train all year and leagues and tourneys all over and me thinks the big boys will have some competition with smaller programs who simply wont have as many hands in the till yet can offer quality But hey what a whino
That's funny. There are only a small group of players making money in MLL.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
ANY word when the 2020 Orange Schedule will be coming out? Our family is trying to make summer vacation plands and have NO idea of dates
I have nothing to do with this team, however I question why you would come on this forum and ask this question rather than picking up the phone and calling your coach. Makes me think that maybe you are not on this team or perhaps you wish you were.
Not on Express (nor 2020), Id like to see how the team my sons age are run. Doesnt have to be orange could be blue or white
Id like to see if there was room for my son next year.
What is happening to their tournament, who is coming Laxachuttes Chargers who else? Anyone doing their Surf and turf tournament
Id like to see if there was room for my son next year.
What is happening to their tournament, who is coming Laxachuttes Chargers who else? Anyone doing their Surf and turf tournament
Didn't you hear, they're going to the final four. They're in third grade, how good can they be...really!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how good the 2022 Express team is?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how good the 2022 Express team is?
I love this response and the one prior one. I have posted a few times on the same topic. You are on here because you have a son that plays youth lacrosse (or you are just a creeep combing youth lacrosse blogs). Your son was once 8/9 years old and you were running up and down the sideline yelling for him to take it to cage. You looked around and saw kids bigger and smaller and some faster and slower and you looked at your son's stick skills and you wondered how does he compare to the other kids. Well now at the 8/9 year old level there is travel lacrosse and it is legitimate, kids and teams routinely play games and practice and beat other teams and lose etc... some Kids are better than other kidss ome teams are better than others and the parents want to gather information about this. But now your son is in 6th grade and he is such a big shot that he plays on 91's B-team or he plays for express or jesters etc. and you cant fathom a parent caring about his kid playing at 9 years old. To you its little johnny cant tie his shoes or blow his nose. If your kids is such a hot shot why are your still blogging about 2022 lacrosse. uh oh, maybe your jonny isnt so good. That sucks. 2021/2022/2023 kids's parents who care about lacrosse enough to gather information about teams etc. good for you, you should be an educated consumer. BTW. hot shot if your son happens to be sub-11 years old, my sons 2022 team will smoke his team, guaranteed (and help your son tie his shoes after the game).
I knew it. A 91 third grade parent.
But u are correct. There is some talent at that young age. These boys are picking it up quicker than ever.
you're post is pathetic!
Or am Igloo parent....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I knew it. A 91 third grade parent.
I would have to agree with you on that. THE most arrogant group of parents I have ever encountered. Considering they play up all the time and aren't successful they should be a little bit more humble. LoCascio is a good coach and is dedicated to those boys. Those boys have talent, but until you are successful against a 4 grade TRAVEL team I wouldn't be bragging like you are the next Crush or Turtles. Enjoy your 8 year old while you can, while you may already be seeing a D1 college career they are still kids this experience should be enjoyable for them. While you are at it might not hurt to teach your sons some humility too, being talented is great but sportsmanship is important too. Nobody likes a cocky jerk whether they are 8, 18 or 80.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how good the 2022 Express team is?
I love this response and the one prior one. I have posted a few times on the same topic. You are on here because you have a son that plays youth lacrosse (or you are just a creeep combing youth lacrosse blogs). Your son was once 8/9 years old and you were running up and down the sideline yelling for him to take it to cage. You looked around and saw kids bigger and smaller and some faster and slower and you looked at your son's stick skills and you wondered how does he compare to the other kids. Well now at the 8/9 year old level there is travel lacrosse and it is legitimate, kids and teams routinely play games and practice and beat other teams and lose etc... some Kids are better than other kidss ome teams are better than others and the parents want to gather information about this. But now your son is in 6th grade and he is such a big shot that he plays on 91's B-team or he plays for express or jesters etc. and you cant fathom a parent caring about his kid playing at 9 years old. To you its little johnny cant tie his shoes or blow his nose. If your kids is such a hot shot why are your still blogging about 2022 lacrosse. uh oh, maybe your jonny isnt so good. That sucks. 2021/2022/2023 kids's parents who care about lacrosse enough to gather information about teams etc. good for you, you should be an educated consumer. BTW. hot shot if your son happens to be sub-11 years old, my sons 2022 team will smoke his team, guaranteed (and help your son tie his shoes after the game).
You must think a lot of yourself to make those assumptions. Glad to see you showing your true colors..."my sons 2022 team will smoke his team". What a tool!!! Lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how good the 2022 Express team is?
I love this response and the one prior one. I have posted a few times on the same topic. You are on here because you have a son that plays youth lacrosse (or you are just a creeep combing youth lacrosse blogs). Your son was once 8/9 years old and you were running up and down the sideline yelling for him to take it to cage. You looked around and saw kids bigger and smaller and some faster and slower and you looked at your son's stick skills and you wondered how does he compare to the other kids. Well now at the 8/9 year old level there is travel lacrosse and it is legitimate, kids and teams routinely play games and practice and beat other teams and lose etc... some Kids are better than other kidss ome teams are better than others and the parents want to gather information about this. But now your son is in 6th grade and he is such a big shot that he plays on 91's B-team or he plays for express or jesters etc. and you cant fathom a parent caring about his kid playing at 9 years old. To you its little johnny cant tie his shoes or blow his nose. If your kids is such a hot shot why are your still blogging about 2022 lacrosse. uh oh, maybe your jonny isnt so good. That sucks. 2021/2022/2023 kids's parents who care about lacrosse enough to gather information about teams etc. good for you, you should be an educated consumer. BTW. hot shot if your son happens to be sub-11 years old, my sons 2022 team will smoke his team, guaranteed (and help your son tie his shoes after the game).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I knew it. A 91 third grade parent.
I would have to agree with you on that. THE most arrogant group of parents I have ever encountered. Considering they play up all the time and aren't successful they should be a little bit more humble. LoCascio is a good coach and is dedicated to those boys. Those boys have talent, but until you are successful against a 4 grade TRAVEL team I wouldn't be bragging like you are the next Crush or Turtles. Enjoy your 8 year old while you can, while you may already be seeing a D1 college career they are still kids this experience should be enjoyable for them. While you are at it might not hurt to teach your sons some humility too, being talented is great but sportsmanship is important too. Nobody likes a cocky jerk whether they are 8, 18 or 80.
Yes, ALL of the 91 parents are THE most arrogant parents & their 8 year old boys are cocky jerks! This post is pathetic!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I knew it. A 91 third grade parent.
I would have to agree with you on that. THE most arrogant group of parents I have ever encountered. Considering they play up all the time and aren't successful they should be a little bit more humble. LoCascio is a good coach and is dedicated to those boys. Those boys have talent, but until you are successful against a 4 grade TRAVEL team I wouldn't be bragging like you are the next Crush or Turtles. Enjoy your 8 year old while you can, while you may already be seeing a D1 college career they are still kids this experience should be enjoyable for them. While you are at it might not hurt to teach your sons some humility too, being talented is great but sportsmanship is important too. Nobody likes a cocky jerk whether they are 8, 18 or 80.
Yes, ALL of the 91 parents are THE most arrogant parents & their 8 year old boys are cocky jerks! This post is pathetic!
I saw the 2022 express play and they are an extremely talented team. But what I liked most about them was they were a well COACHED team. They new what to do and when to do. Most of them could use both hands. Look forward to watching them in the future. Remember most of these teams have fathers who have never played coaching. From what I've heard the 2 coaches played at he highest levels and were both considered some of the best
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I saw the 2022 express play and they are an extremely talented team. But what I liked most about them was they were a well COACHED team. They new what to do and when to do. Most of them could use both hands. Look forward to watching them in the future. Remember most of these teams have fathers who have never played coaching. From what I've heard the 2 coaches played at he highest levels and were both considered some of the best
Ha ha, LI Express parent. The 2022 team is extremely talents? compared to who? the 2nd and 3rd grade town teams they are playing indoors? LI Express will not be able to compete with 91 team, Igloo, Team LI, No Name or even the 2023 91 teams (didnt LI Express 2022 lose to 91 2023 in Santa Jam). However, if your point is that they have some good coaches, then good for them, hopefully the boys get better and have fun.
For your info I'm not a parent, and as for the santa jam you might have to have a reality check, check all the ages of that 91 team. 1 kid was 2 yrs older than the 2022 team and hats a fact. That kid scred 6 of the 8 goals scored. Also I find it pretty pathetic hat you are putting down 8 yr old kids saying they can't beat these other teams, get a life and just enjoy your children playing
91 mixes up teams in tournaments to win for their portfolio.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For your info I'm not a parent, and as for the santa jam you might have to have a reality check, check all the ages of that 91 team. 1 kid was 2 yrs older than the 2022 team and hats a fact. That kid scred 6 of the 8 goals scored. Also I find it pretty pathetic hat you are putting down 8 yr old kids saying they can't beat these other teams, get a life and just enjoy your children playing
Ha ha, Li express parent. 91 2023 has one 3rd grader, the rest are 2nd graders....i will give your this, you have good coahing. Enjoy. They are still young but don't mistake 2022 express as competitive with the better teams. Hopefully your son is in the top5% of the team as they will become comepetitive in 5-6th grade when they have a real tryouts. until then they will be a B club team and an A- town team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For your info I'm not a parent, and as for the santa jam you might have to have a reality check, check all the ages of that 91 team. 1 kid was 2 yrs older than the 2022 team and hats a fact. That kid scred 6 of the 8 goals scored. Also I find it pretty pathetic hat you are putting down 8 yr old kids saying they can't beat these other teams, get a life and just enjoy your children playing
Your not a parent but you showed up for Santa Jam to check the birth certificates of the 91 players? One kid on 91 beat the entire LI Express team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For your info I'm not a parent, and as for the santa jam you might have to have a reality check, check all the ages of that 91 team. 1 kid was 2 yrs older than the 2022 team and hats a fact. That kid scred 6 of the 8 goals scored. Also I find it pretty pathetic hat you are putting down 8 yr old kids saying they can't beat these other teams, get a life and just enjoy your children playing
Your not a parent but you showed up for Santa Jam to check the birth certificates of the 91 players? One kid on 91 beat the entire LI Express team?
Anyone who has a 3rd or 5th grader in club Lax knows exactly who the "One Third grader" on the 2023 Team 91 was. He IS a 3rd grader, but not even close to being U9 (2022) eligible. I wasn't at Santa Jam, but I'm sure he won every face off and scored at leat 2 goals with amazing behind the back. Santa Jam was by "grade" (3rd / 2022), not "age" (U9). You may not like getting mercilessly CRUSHed by this coach and think he's a jerk, but he doesn't cheat. He is BY FAR the best 3rd grader ANYWHERE and will CRUSH your team while he draws your entire defense and hits his 2nd grade twin brothers with passes that make you say "WOW".
My son plays club, but isn't a 91 player.
Have no fear, 2023 91 is going to CRUSH everyone in the 2023 and 2022 divisions very shortly. When they start wearing Crome helmets you should starting explaining to your son that losing builds character before you play them.
If you don't understand this post your son is obviously NOT on any legitimate team under U15.
My son plays club, but isn't a 91 player.
Have no fear, 2023 91 is going to CRUSH everyone in the 2023 and 2022 divisions very shortly. When they start wearing Crome helmets you should starting explaining to your son that losing builds character before you play them.
If you don't understand this post your son is obviously NOT on any legitimate team under U15.
You are CRAZY.
Coach for 91 2023 is great, team is strong. COach brings out his son for sport. 2023 will not compete with the better 2022 teams even with the shiny helmet. Saw it in rockstar when igloo beat them easily.
You people ARE talking about 3rd and 4th graders right? WOW!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who has a 3rd or 5th grader in club Lax knows exactly who the "One Third grader" on the 2023 Team 91 was. He IS a 3rd grader, but not even close to being U9 (2022) eligible. I wasn't at Santa Jam, but I'm sure he won every face off and scored at leat 2 goals with amazing behind the back. Santa Jam was by "grade" (3rd / 2022), not "age" (U9). You may not like getting mercilessly CRUSHed by this coach and think he's a jerk, but he doesn't cheat. He is BY FAR the best 3rd grader ANYWHERE and will CRUSH your team while he draws your entire defense and hits his 2nd grade twin brothers with passes that make you say "WOW".
My son plays club, but isn't a 91 player.
Have no fear, 2023 91 is going to CRUSH everyone in the 2023 and 2022 divisions very shortly. When they start wearing Crome helmets you should starting explaining to your son that losing builds character before you play them.
If you don't understand this post your son is obviously NOT on any legitimate team under U15.
My son plays club, but isn't a 91 player.
Have no fear, 2023 91 is going to CRUSH everyone in the 2023 and 2022 divisions very shortly. When they start wearing Crome helmets you should starting explaining to your son that losing builds character before you play them.
If you don't understand this post your son is obviously NOT on any legitimate team under U15.
my son plays on 2018 Express Terps and I do not understand this post - I also don't care, but I do have one question - isn't 2023 current second graders? seems odd to have a 3rd player playing 2023?
They are CRAZY
No actually 2nd and 3rd graders. Pretty sad right. Oh wait that's right , my son plays on some B team or something and is in like 6th grade or something LOSER.
Indoor sux. It's not even real lax. Calm down with Santa Jam.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who has a 3rd or 5th grader in club Lax knows exactly who the "One Third grader" on the 2023 Team 91 was. He IS a 3rd grader, but not even close to being U9 (2022) eligible. I wasn't at Santa Jam, but I'm sure he won every face off and scored at leat 2 goals with amazing behind the back. Santa Jam was by "grade" (3rd / 2022), not "age" (U9). You may not like getting mercilessly CRUSHed by this coach and think he's a jerk, but he doesn't cheat. He is BY FAR the best 3rd grader ANYWHERE and will CRUSH your team while he draws your entire defense and hits his 2nd grade twin brothers with passes that make you say "WOW".
My son plays club, but isn't a 91 player.
Have no fear, 2023 91 is going to CRUSH everyone in the 2023 and 2022 divisions very shortly. When they start wearing Crome helmets you should starting explaining to your son that losing builds character before you play them.
If you don't understand this post your son is obviously NOT on any legitimate team under U15.
My son plays club, but isn't a 91 player.
Have no fear, 2023 91 is going to CRUSH everyone in the 2023 and 2022 divisions very shortly. When they start wearing Crome helmets you should starting explaining to your son that losing builds character before you play them.
If you don't understand this post your son is obviously NOT on any legitimate team under U15.
If I was coaching against a tool that was encouraging a kid on his team to hot dog and go behind back, I would make sure my goalie and defense introduced that kid to another part of the game, hitting. I would make sure that kid was on the ground every time he touched the ball! Because if showboating is part of the game, so is hitting. Sorry, I'm old school. Thats how that goes.
Isn't the one true third grader on this team really a 4th grader by birth date who is currently playing on a 5th grade team? Yeah that's fair. That's not cheating.
If USLACROSSE really wanted to promote fair play and safety, they'd issue a photo Id - color coded by Birth Year to every player.Then any league, tournament or event relying on USLAX insurance would be mandated to have the officials check the ids before they begin bc these are organized events, not school yard pick up games. If nothing else, make it mandatory prior to every championship game. No ID - disqualify the player. Make the kid, check in prior to the start of the event, present the ID and let the organizer validate it.
I'm sure someone can write an AP to scan a barcode on the id with a smart phone for instant validation. Refs catching cheats can send that info into USLacrosse for a new feature in the monthly magazine- "This Month's Cheats" highlight the coach and the player. followed by "We Just Want Your Money" to highlight the unscrupulous people running these events that allow this nonsense.
People travel all over for competition, lets make sure when they get there its fair or at least clear to all that its a wide open event and buyer beware.
Its sad that its coming to this, but the prior post illustrates why something needs to be done. Sooner or later, someone will get hurt.
If USLACROSSE really wanted to promote fair play and safety, they'd issue a photo Id - color coded by Birth Year to every player.Then any league, tournament or event relying on USLAX insurance would be mandated to have the officials check the ids before they begin bc these are organized events, not school yard pick up games. If nothing else, make it mandatory prior to every championship game. No ID - disqualify the player. Make the kid, check in prior to the start of the event, present the ID and let the organizer validate it.
I'm sure someone can write an AP to scan a barcode on the id with a smart phone for instant validation. Refs catching cheats can send that info into USLacrosse for a new feature in the monthly magazine- "This Month's Cheats" highlight the coach and the player. followed by "We Just Want Your Money" to highlight the unscrupulous people running these events that allow this nonsense.
People travel all over for competition, lets make sure when they get there its fair or at least clear to all that its a wide open event and buyer beware.
Its sad that its coming to this, but the prior post illustrates why something needs to be done. Sooner or later, someone will get hurt.
Your not "Old School", your an IDIOT. 8-9 year old boys don't cheat, the do what their parents tell them. Adult parents / coaches are responsible for sending "Ringers" onto a field. Take your gripes to the league or Tournament officials. Telling your 8-9 yr olds to hurt another kid (you clearly implied this) is the lowest form of coaching. I'm sure your "Old School" coaching style isn't limited to targeting "hot dogs". I'm sure Fast, Athletic, skilled, tall, short, fat, skinny, slow or any 8-9 yr old doing well against your team causes your "Old School" coaching style to take over.
As a coach you have a responsibility to teach these boys life lessons as well as Lax.
As a coach you have a responsibility to teach these boys life lessons as well as Lax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your not "Old School", your an IDIOT. 8-9 year old boys don't cheat, the do what their parents tell them. Adult parents / coaches are responsible for sending "Ringers" onto a field. Take your gripes to the league or Tournament officials. Telling your 8-9 yr olds to hurt another kid (you clearly implied this) is the lowest form of coaching. I'm sure your "Old School" coaching style isn't limited to targeting "hot dogs". I'm sure Fast, Athletic, skilled, tall, short, fat, skinny, slow or any 8-9 yr old doing well against your team causes your "Old School" coaching style to take over.
As a coach you have a responsibility to teach these boys life lessons as well as
Lax.
As a coach you have a responsibility to teach these boys life lessons as well as
Lax.
Name one walk of life in our Society where if you humiliate someone there is not going to be retaliation .
This is getting out of hand. BOTC needs to remove these posts and put the topic back in order. This is an Express thread take your stupid comments somewhere else, preferably your therapist!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
... BOTC needs to remove these posts and put the topic back in order. This is an Express thread ...
Call your attention to the Long Island Express girls program tryouts for the 2018/2019/2020 age groups on Sunday, February 10th at 11:30am at the Long Island Sports Hub? Yes.
This club as well as all the others that advertise on this website are a business. They are NOT for everyone and are intended to be that way for a few reasons. Do your research find the program that fits your childs ability,good coaching,your financial limit,and make a choice. Teach your child that life isn't fair and everyone cant win all the time or be the best in everything.Then just maybe then you will find some positives in the experience,and your child can have fun along the way while learing and developing as a player and a human being.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is getting out of hand. BOTC needs to remove these posts and put the topic back in order. This is an Express thread take your stupid comments somewhere else, preferably your therapist!!
what's the deal with you? Why so angry? this is an express issue. Did you hold back your son and are now furious that people are calling you out on it? Don't get excited, calm yourself, breath. And maybe go see a therapist.
2023(all 2nd graders)are playing already in tournaments? both teams before the Spring?
Ismthe 2017 and 2016 Exp tournament schedule published yet?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is getting out of hand. BOTC needs to remove these posts and put the topic back in order. This is an Express thread take your stupid comments somewhere else, preferably your therapist!!
what's the deal with you? Why so angry? this is an express issue. Did you hold back your son and are now furious that people are calling you out on it? Don't get excited, calm yourself, breath. And maybe go see a therapist.
Actually not angry Just tired of all the stupid comments. But that's o I know you have to vent your frustration and anger somewhere because your child isn't getting the great experience that mine are playing for Express. We all cant be good enough to play on the top team. Its ok because you have other options to choose from. That's what is great about the good old USA!!! Have a nice day!
So what's the truth on THIS kid and his brothers. Is he left back ? What town team is he with ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's the truth on THIS kid and his brothers. Is he left back ? What town team is he with ?
As you know from our Board Rules, there is no need for the public discussion of this player. If you want to know his academic status, call the parents since it is not going to be played out here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who has a 3rd or 5th grader in club Lax knows exactly who the "One Third grader" on the 2023 Team 91 was. He IS a 3rd grader, but not even close to being U9 (2022) eligible. I wasn't at Santa Jam, but I'm sure he won every face off and scored at leat 2 goals with amazing behind the back. Santa Jam was by "grade" (3rd / 2022), not "age" (U9). You may not like getting mercilessly CRUSHed by this coach and think he's a jerk, but he doesn't cheat. He is BY FAR the best 3rd grader ANYWHERE and will CRUSH your team while he draws your entire defense and hits his 2nd grade twin brothers with passes that make you say "WOW".
My son plays club, but isn't a 91 player.
Have no fear, 2023 91 is going to CRUSH everyone in the 2023 and 2022 divisions very shortly. When they start wearing Crome helmets you should starting explaining to your son that losing builds character before you play them.
If you don't understand this post your son is obviously NOT on any legitimate team under U15.
My son plays club, but isn't a 91 player.
Have no fear, 2023 91 is going to CRUSH everyone in the 2023 and 2022 divisions very shortly. When they start wearing Crome helmets you should starting explaining to your son that losing builds character before you play them.
If you don't understand this post your son is obviously NOT on any legitimate team under U15.
If I was coaching against a tool that was encouraging a kid on his team to hot dog and go behind back, I would make sure my goalie and defense introduced that kid to another part of the game, hitting. I would make sure that kid was on the ground every time he touched the ball! Because if showboating is part of the game, so is hitting. Sorry, I'm old school. Thats how that goes.
Hello- while i am very detached, and uninterested in much of the content of this thread, i do notice one thing that i have commented upon in the past. This is the bbehind the back shot. It seems to be creditted with being a showboat move. I have seen it used often at many levels as the window of shooting opportunity closes on the offensive player, and presenting this shot from where the shot might have come from 5 feet prior during the offensive approach. It truly is useful in scoring, and I wonder if this occurrs to any person advising kids to "drill" the kid who obviously utilizes it. Can anybody see this bit of logic? It works, therefore we teach it in my lowly PAL coaching scenarios. Should we want to hurt the kid? Sounds ill advised. Thanks for your time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who has a 3rd or 5th grader in club Lax knows exactly who the "One Third grader" on the 2023 Team 91 was. He IS a 3rd grader, but not even close to being U9 (2022) eligible. I wasn't at Santa Jam, but I'm sure he won every face off and scored at leat 2 goals with amazing behind the back. Santa Jam was by "grade" (3rd / 2022), not "age" (U9). You may not like getting mercilessly CRUSHed by this coach and think he's a jerk, but he doesn't cheat. He is BY FAR the best 3rd grader ANYWHERE and will CRUSH your team while he draws your entire defense and hits his 2nd grade twin brothers with passes that make you say "WOW".
My son plays club, but isn't a 91 player.
Have no fear, 2023 91 is going to CRUSH everyone in the 2023 and 2022 divisions very shortly. When they start wearing Crome helmets you should starting explaining to your son that losing builds character before you play them.
If you don't understand this post your son is obviously NOT on any legitimate team under U15.
My son plays club, but isn't a 91 player.
Have no fear, 2023 91 is going to CRUSH everyone in the 2023 and 2022 divisions very shortly. When they start wearing Crome helmets you should starting explaining to your son that losing builds character before you play them.
If you don't understand this post your son is obviously NOT on any legitimate team under U15.
If I was coaching against a tool that was encouraging a kid on his team to hot dog and go behind back, I would make sure my goalie and defense introduced that kid to another part of the game, hitting. I would make sure that kid was on the ground every time he touched the ball! Because if showboating is part of the game, so is hitting. Sorry, I'm old school. Thats how that goes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your not "Old School", your an IDIOT. 8-9 year old boys don't cheat, the do what their parents tell them. Adult parents / coaches are responsible for sending "Ringers" onto a field. Take your gripes to the league or Tournament officials. Telling your 8-9 yr olds to hurt another kid (you clearly implied this) is the lowest form of coaching. I'm sure your "Old School" coaching style isn't limited to targeting "hot dogs". I'm sure Fast, Athletic, skilled, tall, short, fat, skinny, slow or any 8-9 yr old doing well against your team causes your "Old School" coaching style to take over.
As a coach you have a responsibility to teach these boys life lessons as well as
Lax.
As a coach you have a responsibility to teach these boys life lessons as well as
Lax.
Name one walk of life in our Society where if you humiliate someone there is not going to be retaliation .
I am reading this accurately? You would encourage your players to HURT another child simply because they can shoot behind the back? Who is the "tool" here? Sounds like it might be you.
Shooting behind the back is employed at most levels of play, why should it not be used in U9, U11,U15? If a player can do it, what's the big deal? What's next tackling kids who fake 2-3 times before shooting. Please respect the game!!!
If I was coaching against a tool that was encouraging a kid on his team to hot dog and go behind back, I would make sure my goalie and defense introduced that kid to another part of the game, hitting. I would make sure that kid was on the ground every time he touched the ball! Because if showboating is part of the game, so is hitting. Sorry, I'm old school. Thats how that goes.
Shooting behind the back is employed at most levels of play, why should it not be used in U9, U11,U15? If a player can do it, what's the big deal? What's next tackling kids who fake 2-3 times before shooting. Please respect the game!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who has a 3rd or 5th grader in club Lax knows exactly who the "One Third grader" on the 2023 Team 91 was. He IS a 3rd grader, but not even close to being U9 (2022) eligible. I wasn't at Santa Jam, but I'm sure he won every face off and scored at leat 2 goals with amazing behind the back. Santa Jam was by "grade" (3rd / 2022), not "age" (U9). You may not like getting mercilessly CRUSHed by this coach and think he's a jerk, but he doesn't cheat. He is BY FAR the best 3rd grader ANYWHERE and will CRUSH your team while he draws your entire defense and hits his 2nd grade twin brothers with passes that make you say "WOW".
My son plays club, but isn't a 91 player.
Have no fear, 2023 91 is going to CRUSH everyone in the 2023 and 2022 divisions very shortly. When they start wearing Crome helmets you should starting explaining to your son that losing builds character before you play them.
If you don't understand this post your son is obviously NOT on any legitimate team under U15.
My son plays club, but isn't a 91 player.
Have no fear, 2023 91 is going to CRUSH everyone in the 2023 and 2022 divisions very shortly. When they start wearing Crome helmets you should starting explaining to your son that losing builds character before you play them.
If you don't understand this post your son is obviously NOT on any legitimate team under U15.
If I was coaching against a tool that was encouraging a kid on his team to hot dog and go behind back, I would make sure my goalie and defense introduced that kid to another part of the game, hitting. I would make sure that kid was on the ground every time he touched the ball! Because if showboating is part of the game, so is hitting. Sorry, I'm old school. Thats how that goes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your not "Old School", your an IDIOT. 8-9 year old boys don't cheat, the do what their parents tell them. Adult parents / coaches are responsible for sending "Ringers" onto a field. Take your gripes to the league or Tournament officials. Telling your 8-9 yr olds to hurt another kid (you clearly implied this) is the lowest form of coaching. I'm sure your "Old School" coaching style isn't limited to targeting "hot dogs". I'm sure Fast, Athletic, skilled, tall, short, fat, skinny, slow or any 8-9 yr old doing well against your team causes your "Old School" coaching style to take over.
As a coach you have a responsibility to teach these boys life lessons as well as
Lax.
As a coach you have a responsibility to teach these boys life lessons as well as
Lax.
Name one walk of life in our Society where if you humiliate someone there is not going to be retaliation .
Oops- you win. It is right to blast the kid. Yep. You are the logical one. We should have the kid use more "old school ways" to score. Maybe he should be excluded from beating players, or humiliating goalie by scoring upon them. Thanks for pointing out that his/ her blossoming skills are really "hot doggin".
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Isn't the one true third grader on this team really a 4th grader by birth date who is currently playing on a 5th grade team? Yeah that's fair. That's not cheating.
If USLACROSSE really wanted to promote fair play and safety, they'd issue a photo Id - color coded by Birth Year to every player.Then any league, tournament or event relying on USLAX insurance would be mandated to have the officials check the ids before they begin bc these are organized events, not school yard pick up games. If nothing else, make it mandatory prior to every championship game. No ID - disqualify the player. Make the kid, check in prior to the start of the event, present the ID and let the organizer validate it.
I'm sure someone can write an AP to scan a barcode on the id with a smart phone for instant validation. Refs catching cheats can send that info into USLacrosse for a new feature in the monthly magazine- "This Month's Cheats" highlight the coach and the player. followed by "We Just Want Your Money" to highlight the unscrupulous people running these events that allow this nonsense.
People travel all over for competition, lets make sure when they get there its fair or at least clear to all that its a wide open event and buyer beware.
Its sad that its coming to this, but the prior post illustrates why something needs to be done. Sooner or later, someone will get hurt.
If USLACROSSE really wanted to promote fair play and safety, they'd issue a photo Id - color coded by Birth Year to every player.Then any league, tournament or event relying on USLAX insurance would be mandated to have the officials check the ids before they begin bc these are organized events, not school yard pick up games. If nothing else, make it mandatory prior to every championship game. No ID - disqualify the player. Make the kid, check in prior to the start of the event, present the ID and let the organizer validate it.
I'm sure someone can write an AP to scan a barcode on the id with a smart phone for instant validation. Refs catching cheats can send that info into USLacrosse for a new feature in the monthly magazine- "This Month's Cheats" highlight the coach and the player. followed by "We Just Want Your Money" to highlight the unscrupulous people running these events that allow this nonsense.
People travel all over for competition, lets make sure when they get there its fair or at least clear to all that its a wide open event and buyer beware.
Its sad that its coming to this, but the prior post illustrates why something needs to be done. Sooner or later, someone will get hurt.
Ah, a coherent approach to this issue. I have, in the past, commented upon this with similar suggestion. PAL Footbal, in both Nassau and Suffolk, use photo ID to atleast do a visual identification, verified by opposing coaches in the game that day at weigh-in. You point out that the sport of tournament Lax involves us in travel nationwide. This scanable id assigned to any US Lax policy holder is a fantastic idea, and is NOT, in my opinion, too much cost to expect the governing body to incurr to protect the fairness, safety, and dignity of our beloved sport. Good day
Was just in florida for 3D blue chip. One of the first drills was behind the back passing and behind the back shooting. So before you get all hot under the collar take an anger management class. Then realize it is a legitimate part of the game. The kids doing it are well coached and skilled and will be well ahead of their peers. It is definitely not showboating. You would be wise to learn from and trench your kid this skill. But that will never happen as you are too preoccupied by being angry and going old school.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was just in florida for 3D blue chip. One of the first drills was behind the back passing and behind the back shooting. So before you get all hot under the collar take an anger management class. Then realize it is a legitimate part of the game. The kids doing it are well coached and skilled and will be well ahead of their peers. It is definitely not showboating. You would be wise to learn from and trench your kid this skill. But that will never happen as you are too preoccupied by being angry and going old school.
It seems as if Mr Old School skipped too much school! Now let's go beat up some little kids! (oh boy....)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was just in florida for 3D blue chip. One of the first drills was behind the back passing and behind the back shooting. So before you get all hot under the collar take an anger management class. Then realize it is a legitimate part of the game. The kids doing it are well coached and skilled and will be well ahead of their peers. It is definitely not showboating. You would be wise to learn from and trench your kid this skill. But that will never happen as you are too preoccupied by being angry and going old school.
I guess when I am watching the MLL, or college or varsity and a D player blows up an O player for hot dogging it must be my imagination
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was just in florida for 3D blue chip. One of the first drills was behind the back passing and behind the back shooting. So before you get all hot under the collar take an anger management class. Then realize it is a legitimate part of the game. The kids doing it are well coached and skilled and will be well ahead of their peers. It is definitely not showboating. You would be wise to learn from and trench your kid this skill. But that will never happen as you are too preoccupied by being angry and going old school.
I guess when I am watching the MLL, or college or varsity and a D player blows up an O player for hot dogging it must be my imagination
Ok look when I played ball if someone hot dogged I was the person usually blowing them up. It was to send a message not in my house. They usually wouldn't do it again. Here's the thing there is a difference between hot dogging and being able to go behind your back and or between your legs if it calls for it when your angle to score is gone. The blowing up thing was never taught to me or asked of me I just liked to hit. So to ask a kid in 3rd or 4th grade to hit or hurt someone is nuts. Old school or not it's not the thing to be teaching or even discussing with young kids. The awareness of hitting and the ability to hit hard and correctly just starts to happen in 7th grade and up when kids are able to control their bodies. At younger ages it's just dangerous.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was just in florida for 3D blue chip. One of the first drills was behind the back passing and behind the back shooting. So before you get all hot under the collar take an anger management class. Then realize it is a legitimate part of the game. The kids doing it are well coached and skilled and will be well ahead of their peers. It is definitely not showboating. You would be wise to learn from and trench your kid this skill. But that will never happen as you are too preoccupied by being angry and going old school.
I guess when I am watching the MLL, or college or varsity and a D player blows up an O player for hot dogging it must be my imagination
It is NOT your imagination. It is NOT what you send a third or fourth grader out to do! Why can you not just say, "okay, you are right"? Wear a wife-beater too?
I have one son who plays attack and has been taught how and when to properly take a behind the back shot, and if you don't practice it and use it in a game as a 4th or 5th grader you wont know how to do it when you are older and it is the correct shot, the object of the game is to score. however if he did it in a 10 - 0 game I would have a long sportsmanship talk with him on the ride home. I also have a son who plays goalie and I encourage him to run the ball up field when appropriate and he has taken a few shots because he was never picked up, again if you don't practice this in PAL and over the summer you will not have the ability to do it in HS when you might need to.
While I would never encourage "going after" a kid on the other team for taking a behind the back shot, if it was a 10 - 0 game and the kid did it, I wouldn't be upset seeing a D putting him on his butt, not to hurt him but to let him know it wasn't appreciated, when this happens as a continuation of a play it is a lot more acceptable then when it is per-meditated and coached.
Not all behind the back shots are the same and many are not hot dog but the correct shot.
While I would never encourage "going after" a kid on the other team for taking a behind the back shot, if it was a 10 - 0 game and the kid did it, I wouldn't be upset seeing a D putting him on his butt, not to hurt him but to let him know it wasn't appreciated, when this happens as a continuation of a play it is a lot more acceptable then when it is per-meditated and coached.
Not all behind the back shots are the same and many are not hot dog but the correct shot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have one son who plays attack and has been taught how and when to properly take a behind the back shot, and if you don't practice it and use it in a game as a 4th or 5th grader you wont know how to do it when you are older and it is the correct shot, the object of the game is to score. however if he did it in a 10 - 0 game I would have a long sportsmanship talk with him on the ride home. I also have a son who plays goalie and I encourage him to run the ball up field when appropriate and he has taken a few shots because he was never picked up, again if you don't practice this in PAL and over the summer you will not have the ability to do it in HS when you might need to.
While I would never encourage "going after" a kid on the other team for taking a behind the back shot, if it was a 10 - 0 game and the kid did it, I wouldn't be upset seeing a D putting him on his butt, not to hurt him but to let him know it wasn't appreciated, when this happens as a continuation of a play it is a lot more acceptable then when it is per-meditated and coached.
Not all behind the back shots are the same and many are not hot dog but the correct shot.
While I would never encourage "going after" a kid on the other team for taking a behind the back shot, if it was a 10 - 0 game and the kid did it, I wouldn't be upset seeing a D putting him on his butt, not to hurt him but to let him know it wasn't appreciated, when this happens as a continuation of a play it is a lot more acceptable then when it is per-meditated and coached.
Not all behind the back shots are the same and many are not hot dog but the correct shot.
I agree with your post, not all behind the back shots are the same. This kid is showboating not practicing. I am sure that one day a defensive player will take offense to it and knock him on his butt for it. But the thing I noticed more than his hotdogging and ball hogging was the smile on his face. You can see it through the helmet mask. He is running he is smiling, he is shooting he is smiling, he gets hit and sent flying on his butt he gets up he is smiling. This kid enjoys the game of lacrosse he is genuinely having fun out there. From what I read on the boards I will say not all kids are having fun, some kids have mental cases for parents. This BOY is still in elementary school he should be enjoying himself without grown adults on here bad mouthing him. He loves the game he will be playing in HS and college, the poor 9 year old whose father has gone off the deep end and is forcing lacrosse down his kids throat will not.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have one son who plays attack and has been taught how and when to properly take a behind the back shot, and if you don't practice it and use it in a game as a 4th or 5th grader you wont know how to do it when you are older and it is the correct shot, the object of the game is to score. however if he did it in a 10 - 0 game I would have a long sportsmanship talk with him on the ride home. I also have a son who plays goalie and I encourage him to run the ball up field when appropriate and he has taken a few shots because he was never picked up, again if you don't practice this in PAL and over the summer you will not have the ability to do it in HS when you might need to.
Tru
While I would never encourage "going after" a kid on the other team for taking a behind the back shot, if it was a 10 - 0 game and the kid did it, I wouldn't be upset seeing a D putting him on his butt, not to hurt him but to let him know it wasn't appreciated, when this happens as a continuation of a play it is a lot more acceptable then when it is per-meditated and coached.
Not all behind the back shots are the same and many are not hot dog but the
correct shot.
Tru
While I would never encourage "going after" a kid on the other team for taking a behind the back shot, if it was a 10 - 0 game and the kid did it, I wouldn't be upset seeing a D putting him on his butt, not to hurt him but to let him know it wasn't appreciated, when this happens as a continuation of a play it is a lot more acceptable then when it is per-meditated and coached.
Not all behind the back shots are the same and many are not hot dog but the
correct shot.
True. but the need for a behind the back is rare. So when you see a kid try to do it multiple times in the same game then you know what its really about
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True. but the need for a behind the back is rare. So when you see a kid try to do it multiple times in the same game then you know what its really about
What about a long pole who uses behind the back regularly for his open field passes where the nearest defender is 3 plus yards away from him? Is that hot dogging? or just just solid fundamental lacrosse?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True. but the need for a behind the back is rare. So when you see a kid try to do it multiple times in the same game then you know what its really about
What about a long pole who uses behind the back regularly for his open field passes where the nearest defender is 3 plus yards away from him? Is that hot dogging? or just just solid fundamental lacrosse?
What about the goalie who gets into trouble, cant get his hands free, throws it behind his back to the long pole who then throws a high-to-low skip bounce pass to the middie running up field who then gets double teamed and has no option but to roll the ball between the two defenders legs to the attackman who scores a behind the back around the world goal, but not before doing a triple lindy. I have seen that in person and I beleive that is hotdogging and warrants the opposing team to beat up the attackman in the parking lot after the game for shooting behind his back.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True. but the need for a behind the back is rare. So when you see a kid try to do it multiple times in the same game then you know what its really about
What about a long pole who uses behind the back regularly for his open field passes where the nearest defender is 3 plus yards away from him? Is that hot dogging? or just just solid fundamental lacrosse?
What about the goalie who gets into trouble, cant get his hands free, throws it behind his back to the long pole who then throws a high-to-low skip bounce pass to the middie running up field who then gets double teamed and has no option but to roll the ball between the two defenders legs to the attackman who scores a behind the back around the world goal, but not before doing a triple lindy. I have seen that in person and I beleive that is hotdogging and warrants the opposing team to beat up the attackman in the parking lot after the game for shooting behind his back.
Are you all 9 years old? Sure sounds like it. Proud now? Lol...tools!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True. but the need for a behind the back is rare. So when you see a kid try to do it multiple times in the same game then you know what its really about
What about a long pole who uses behind the back regularly for his open field passes where the nearest defender is 3 plus yards away from him? Is that hot dogging? or just just solid fundamental lacrosse?
he is probably a long pole that is going places because he is practicing skills he will need later in life and if he didn't practice it as a 5th or 6th grader he will not be able to do in in HS
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have one son who plays attack and has been taught how and when to properly take a behind the back shot, and if you don't practice it and use it in a game as a 4th or 5th grader you wont know how to do it when you are older and it is the correct shot, the object of the game is to score. however if he did it in a 10 - 0 game I would have a long sportsmanship talk with him on the ride home. I also have a son who plays goalie and I encourage him to run the ball up field when appropriate and he has taken a few shots because he was never picked up, again if you don't practice this in PAL and over the summer you will not have the ability to do it in HS when you might need to.
Tru
While I would never encourage "going after" a kid on the other team for taking a behind the back shot, if it was a 10 - 0 game and the kid did it, I wouldn't be upset seeing a D putting him on his butt, not to hurt him but to let him know it wasn't appreciated, when this happens as a continuation of a play it is a lot more acceptable then when it is per-meditated and coached.
Not all behind the back shots are the same and many are not hot dog but the
correct shot.
Tru
While I would never encourage "going after" a kid on the other team for taking a behind the back shot, if it was a 10 - 0 game and the kid did it, I wouldn't be upset seeing a D putting him on his butt, not to hurt him but to let him know it wasn't appreciated, when this happens as a continuation of a play it is a lot more acceptable then when it is per-meditated and coached.
Not all behind the back shots are the same and many are not hot dog but the
correct shot.
True. but the need for a behind the back is rare. So when you see a kid try to do it multiple times in the same game then you know what its really about
As a matter of fact,I have seen more goals missed because player forsook an easy shot to try and make behind the back one
Congratulations to the Long Island Express U11AA (2020 Terps) team as they were champions in the U11AA Division.
The Express defeated Looney's Boys Lacrosse, 5-4, in the final match.
The Dune Dawgs took fourth place as they lost the third place match, 8-2, versus Mad Lax, the tournament hosts.
Mad Lax Capital Classic Tournament - U11AA Division Results
Details on all of the age brackets are located on the Mid-Atlantic Forum here on BOTC.
The Express defeated Looney's Boys Lacrosse, 5-4, in the final match.
The Dune Dawgs took fourth place as they lost the third place match, 8-2, versus Mad Lax, the tournament hosts.
Mad Lax Capital Classic Tournament - U11AA Division Results
Details on all of the age brackets are located on the Mid-Atlantic Forum here on BOTC.
When was the last time the 2020 terps played the 2020 91 crush? What was the result?
They don't play the 2020 Team 91 Orange Crush team. As a matter of fact they won't even go to tournaments that theOrange Crush team is competing in
Because then they wouldn't be able to put CHAMPIONS on their web site to attract more parents of more 10 year olds to pay MORE money because theonly way little Johnny is going to Hopkins is if he plays travel alcrosse all year round.
This is the garbage these teams are peddling, and way too many people are buying into it.
Because then they wouldn't be able to put CHAMPIONS on their web site to attract more parents of more 10 year olds to pay MORE money because theonly way little Johnny is going to Hopkins is if he plays travel alcrosse all year round.
This is the garbage these teams are peddling, and way too many people are buying into it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They don't play the 2020 Team 91 Orange Crush team. As a matter of fact they won't even go to tournaments that theOrange Crush team is competing in
Because then they wouldn't be able to put CHAMPIONS on their web site to attract more parents of more 10 year olds to pay MORE money because theonly way little Johnny is going to Hopkins is if he plays travel alcrosse all year round.
This is the garbage these teams are peddling, and way too many people are buying into it.
Because then they wouldn't be able to put CHAMPIONS on their web site to attract more parents of more 10 year olds to pay MORE money because theonly way little Johnny is going to Hopkins is if he plays travel alcrosse all year round.
This is the garbage these teams are peddling, and way too many people are buying into it.
Schedules are posted on the Internet. Crush can easily enter any of the tournaments that the Express are in. However, that may be difficult for them because their top players are juggling playing on two teams and 91 Crush would not schedule a tournament without them. Also, last time I looked, Team 91 post every tournament Championship on their website. Get a life buddy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They don't play the 2020 Team 91 Orange Crush team. As a matter of fact they won't even go to tournaments that theOrange Crush team is competing in
Because then they wouldn't be able to put CHAMPIONS on their web site to attract more parents of more 10 year olds to pay MORE money because theonly way little Johnny is going to Hopkins is if he plays travel alcrosse all year round.
This is the garbage these teams are peddling, and way too many people are buying into it.
Because then they wouldn't be able to put CHAMPIONS on their web site to attract more parents of more 10 year olds to pay MORE money because theonly way little Johnny is going to Hopkins is if he plays travel alcrosse all year round.
This is the garbage these teams are peddling, and way too many people are buying into it.
Schedules are posted on the Internet. Crush can easily enter any of the tournaments that the Express are in. However, that may be difficult for them because their top players are juggling playing on two teams and 91 Crush would not schedule a tournament without them. Also, last time I looked, Team 91 post every tournament Championship on their website. Get a life buddy.
Really? Aren't you talking about 10yr olds?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They don't play the 2020 Team 91 Orange Crush team. As a matter of fact they won't even go to tournaments that theOrange Crush team is competing in
Because then they wouldn't be able to put CHAMPIONS on their web site to attract more parents of more 10 year olds to pay MORE money because theonly way little Johnny is going to Hopkins is if he plays travel alcrosse all year round.
This is the garbage these teams are peddling, and way too many people are buying into it.
Because then they wouldn't be able to put CHAMPIONS on their web site to attract more parents of more 10 year olds to pay MORE money because theonly way little Johnny is going to Hopkins is if he plays travel alcrosse all year round.
This is the garbage these teams are peddling, and way too many people are buying into it.
Schedules are posted on the Internet. Crush can easily enter any of the tournaments that the Express are in. However, that may be difficult for them because their top players are juggling playing on two teams and 91 Crush would not schedule a tournament without them. Also, last time I looked, Team 91 post every tournament Championship on their website. Get a life buddy.
91 also runs a lot of tournaments using different names and we've seen some monkey business surrounding them. All the 91 people hang their hat on is the Orange Crush. Yes, they are the best 2020 team around. Big deal. Express older teams are better than the 91 teams. All teams proudly display tournament winners. It helps bring in revenue for tryouts.
my son was lucky enough to have been invited to a University this weekend and meet with the coaching staff - below are a few of the questions he was NOT asked.
What summer team did you play for in 5th grade?
What was their record?
did they play (91/Express/fl$/DD's) in any tournaments?
how did they do?
Was he on the best 5th grade team?
They did ask about his SAT's
just sayin'
What summer team did you play for in 5th grade?
What was their record?
did they play (91/Express/fl$/DD's) in any tournaments?
how did they do?
Was he on the best 5th grade team?
They did ask about his SAT's
just sayin'
The team sould be named ORANGE TRASH just look at the parents on the sideline and how they conduct themselves , i do not care how many T Shirts you win it is emabarrassing form the Coach on down !!!!!!!!!!!!!
And they pick him to come talk with the coaches because he is So good looking
Lol
Lol
I hear what you are saying but if you could please answer honestly.
Did he play on a travel team in 5th grade?
Do you think that experience helped get him that invite?
What do you think was more of a catalyst on the invite his HS or his travel play?
Did he play on a travel team in 5th grade?
Do you think that experience helped get him that invite?
What do you think was more of a catalyst on the invite his HS or his travel play?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
my son was lucky enough to have been invited to a University this weekend and meet with the coaching staff - below are a few of the questions he was NOT asked.
What summer team did you play for in 5th grade?
What was their record?
did they play (91/Express/fl$/DD's) in any tournaments?
how did they do?
Was he on the best 5th grade team?
They did ask about his SAT's
just sayin'
What summer team did you play for in 5th grade?
What was their record?
did they play (91/Express/fl$/DD's) in any tournaments?
how did they do?
Was he on the best 5th grade team?
They did ask about his SAT's
just sayin'
this thread is about LI Express and our teams though i don't have a child in that grad year. Why are you even dignifying the Crush commenter with a response. If that will make them sleep better at night, fine so be it.
Congrats to you. All club teams put their championship teams on their website. Most of them you can find their schedules and vice versa
What does it all mean in the end. Not a damn thing. Some will stay with lax and some will quit. Some new kids will pick up the game for the first time and pass others by. What is happening at 2022, 2021, 2020 etc is so insignificant in the end. Its great for the kids when then win to feel about themselves i think we all can acknowledge that but its not the be all end all.
A wise man once said it is great to win the game, even greater to play the game, but the greatest of all is to love the game. That is what it is supposed to be about at these ages.
Congrats to you. All club teams put their championship teams on their website. Most of them you can find their schedules and vice versa
What does it all mean in the end. Not a damn thing. Some will stay with lax and some will quit. Some new kids will pick up the game for the first time and pass others by. What is happening at 2022, 2021, 2020 etc is so insignificant in the end. Its great for the kids when then win to feel about themselves i think we all can acknowledge that but its not the be all end all.
A wise man once said it is great to win the game, even greater to play the game, but the greatest of all is to love the game. That is what it is supposed to be about at these ages.
The 2020 Express Terps are a great team by anyone's standards. They haven't beat Team 91 Crush yet, it's the only team in their age group that they've lost to. The 2020 Express Terps play equal playing time and have won numerous times without some of their stronger players - it's truly a balanced team that wins no matter who shows up. So when you sum it all up, the 2020 Terps are arguably the #2 team in their age group nationally, with the #1 coaching staff, #1 group of parents who all get along and really enjoy spending time together, and a great set of kids that are all friends off the field. There's no parent drama, no infighting, and balanced scoring and playing time(goals and assists from all who step on the field).
Orange low class!! Such a great team, yet people leave and many hate it.
Lets compare gpa between the 2 teams. Bet you express comes out on top!
Lets compare gpa between the 2 teams. Bet you express comes out on top!
Only a tool would write something that this...hope it wasn't a 91 parent.
Are u a parent of a crush players who plays or just collects t-shirts? Oh yeah keep kidding yourself that he will get better by just practicing with them. Lol
FYI. The coach has been calling around looking to add players , hope your spot is safe.
FYI. The coach has been calling around looking to add players , hope your spot is safe.
Slow weekend crush person?. Gets boring when the good crush players are with the dune dawgs and the lizards are losing. Nothing to do!
If you get the opportunity, take a look at Quint's column on InsdeLacrosse.com Speaks of how truly messed up the club youth culture is. Orange Crush or Express or any other "elite" team
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013/07/01/quint-delusions-youth-club-ball
http:/
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Orange low class!! Such a great team, yet people leave and many hate it.
Lets compare gpa between the 2 teams. Bet you express comes out on top!
Lets compare gpa between the 2 teams. Bet you express comes out on top!
5th grade "gpa"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hear what you are saying but if you could please answer honestly.
Did he play on a travel team in 5th grade?
Do you think that experience helped get him that invite?
What do you think was more of a catalyst on the invite his HS or his travel play?
Did he play on a travel team in 5th grade?
Do you think that experience helped get him that invite?
What do you think was more of a catalyst on the invite his HS or his travel play?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
my son was lucky enough to have been invited to a University this weekend and meet with the coaching staff - below are a few of the questions he was NOT asked.
What summer team did you play for in 5th grade?
What was their record?
did they play (91/Express/fl$/DD's) in any tournaments?
how did they do?
Was he on the best 5th grade team?
They did ask about his SAT's
just sayin'
What summer team did you play for in 5th grade?
What was their record?
did they play (91/Express/fl$/DD's) in any tournaments?
how did they do?
Was he on the best 5th grade team?
They did ask about his SAT's
just sayin'
He has played travel lacrosse since second grade, he has played on many teams, we never tried out for the "top" teams and winning a tournament was never a priority, although winning is a lot of fun. His HS coach has been the biggest part of his recruiting
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He has played travel lacrosse since second grade, he has played on many teams, we never tried out for the "top" teams and winning a tournament was never a priority, although winning is a lot of fun. His HS coach has been the biggest part of his recruiting
That's great but unfortunately there are a ton of High school coaches that don't do anything to help their players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you get the opportunity, take a look at Quint's column on InsdeLacrosse.com Speaks of how truly messed up the club youth culture is. Orange Crush or Express or any other "elite" team
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013/07/01/quint-delusions-youth-club-ball
http:/
Cant speak for all of the teams, but the practices and work at our express 2018 team are all about fundementals. Coaches do a great job and our experience has been very positive. never saw MC or other coaches wearing flip flops or lacking for energy.
certainly not the case with many other teams I am sure, but the article also doesnt call out the program.
certainly not the case with many other teams I am sure, but the article also doesnt call out the program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you get the opportunity, take a look at Quint's column on InsdeLacrosse.com Speaks of how truly messed up the club youth culture is. Orange Crush or Express or any other "elite" team
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013/07/01/quint-delusions-youth-club-ball
http:/
Great article, but there are a few things in the article I disagree with. He was clearly commenting on one practice for one club team that he happened to be watching. That doesnt mean there arent club teams out there that have outstanding coaches and that generally care about their kids. Although he makes several valid points throughout the article and while it is definitely thought provoking, there are several statements he makes that are silly. To say a kid would be better off playing wall ball is simply ridiculous. The club experience can be a great experience if you are on the right team with the right coaches. Are there club teams out there that are a straight money grab? Absolutely! My son is a 2017 player and is on a very good 2017 team and we have played some absolutely horrific club teams which makes you wonder and validates some of the points that Quint was making. The tone of the article was how out of control the club lacrosse scene has become, which I do somewhat agree with. However, making blanket statements without all the facts is irresponsible on his part. Not every kid can attend Boys Latin or Gilman, so for some club lacrosse is a great outlet and a way to get on track for college lacrosse. Its all about the right situation for you child, its up to the parents to make sure you put your child in the right situation to help him succeed. There are good and bad lacrosse clubs out there just like everything else. Quint has to be careful with that broad brush he paints with.
Anyone know how the girls program is?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you get the opportunity, take a look at Quint's column on InsdeLacrosse.com Speaks of how truly messed up the club youth culture is. Orange Crush or Express or any other "elite" team
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013/07/01/quint-delusions-youth-club-ball
http:/
So true. These big clubs have multi-squad practices too. Absolute chaos, few touches, no instruction.
An hour spent at the wall is much better. Supplement that by getting a bucket of balls and passing to your son to shoot them all into an empty net, lefty and righty. Repeat 10 times from different positions/angles. Do a few shuttle runs, and focus on footwork. Then do the same drills with a stick and pass back and forth while he does it. This takes all of an hour, and your son gets 100x the touches he'll ever get at a club practice. Then go get pizza and congratulate yourselves for not buying into the nonsense. And for dad, you've burned the calories to enjoy that extra slice.
Club lax can be worth it, but if you paid more than $800 for four tournaments you need to read and then re-read that article. Avoid teams with tryout fees more than $30 or $40, especially after 5th grade (it's all a money grab). And if you're on a "big name" club and not on their A team (and/or not getting at least half the game playing time), then you are just subsidizing someone else's son's lax experience.
Not very strong.
Whenever a boys club adds on girls teams, they are basically the red-headed stepchild.
Just added revenue for the club.
You are much better off with a girls club.
Liberty, Yellow Jackets, Top Guns, Elevate
Whenever a boys club adds on girls teams, they are basically the red-headed stepchild.
Just added revenue for the club.
You are much better off with a girls club.
Liberty, Yellow Jackets, Top Guns, Elevate
WHile wall ball is no doubt a key factor in getting better a good travel team is key as well. To be on a team where kids can catch and throw, talented kids on D becasue they want to be there, not stuck there becasue they stink gives a kid the opportunuty to learn how to play lacrosse the right way. So often in lacrossse its not about what you do when you have the ball, its about what you do when you dont. These team cocnepts cant be learned on a wall. Also a good coach will help with fundemabtal stick work , dodging and shooting , footwork and checking . Do your homework, ask a lot of questions and trurt your own eyes.
So true. These big clubs have multi-squad practices too. Absolute chaos, few touches, no instruction.
An hour spent at the wall is much better. Supplement that by getting a bucket of balls and passing to your son to shoot them all into an empty net, lefty and righty. Repeat 10 times from different positions/angles. Do a few shuttle runs, and focus on footwork. Then do the same drills with a stick and pass back and forth while he does it. This takes all of an hour, and your son gets 100x the touches he'll ever get at a club practice. Then go get pizza and congratulate yourselves for not buying into the nonsense. And for dad, you've burned the calories to enjoy that extra slice.
Club lax can be worth it, but if you paid more than $800 for four tournaments you need to read and then re-read that article. Avoid teams with tryout fees more than $30 or $40, especially after 5th grade (it's all a money grab). And if you're on a "big name" club and not on their A team (and/or not getting at least half the game playing time), then you are just subsidizing someone else's son's lax experience.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you get the opportunity, take a look at Quint's column on InsdeLacrosse.com Speaks of how truly messed up the club youth culture is. Orange Crush or Express or any other "elite" team
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2013/07/01/quint-delusions-youth-club-ball
http:/
So true. These big clubs have multi-squad practices too. Absolute chaos, few touches, no instruction.
An hour spent at the wall is much better. Supplement that by getting a bucket of balls and passing to your son to shoot them all into an empty net, lefty and righty. Repeat 10 times from different positions/angles. Do a few shuttle runs, and focus on footwork. Then do the same drills with a stick and pass back and forth while he does it. This takes all of an hour, and your son gets 100x the touches he'll ever get at a club practice. Then go get pizza and congratulate yourselves for not buying into the nonsense. And for dad, you've burned the calories to enjoy that extra slice.
Club lax can be worth it, but if you paid more than $800 for four tournaments you need to read and then re-read that article. Avoid teams with tryout fees more than $30 or $40, especially after 5th grade (it's all a money grab). And if you're on a "big name" club and not on their A team (and/or not getting at least half the game playing time), then you are just subsidizing someone else's son's lax experience.
Express girls (2015)won their first tournament if you go to the girls website.
They also beat elevate 11-2 at the national draw.
They added a few new players that left for Elevate, several girls from Ward Melville and a Shoreham Goalie.
I am thinking about moving my daughter there as I live close and a friends daughter from St . Anthony's is quite happy there for the past few years with the coaches.
They also beat elevate 11-2 at the national draw.
They added a few new players that left for Elevate, several girls from Ward Melville and a Shoreham Goalie.
I am thinking about moving my daughter there as I live close and a friends daughter from St . Anthony's is quite happy there for the past few years with the coaches.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not very strong.
Whenever a boys club adds on girls teams, they are basically the red-headed stepchild.
Just added revenue for the club.
You are much better off with a girls club.
Liberty, Yellow Jackets, Top Guns, Elevate
Whenever a boys club adds on girls teams, they are basically the red-headed stepchild.
Just added revenue for the club.
You are much better off with a girls club.
Liberty, Yellow Jackets, Top Guns, Elevate
Elevate is a huge step down from the other three (from a talent perspective), as it is a very new program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not very strong.
Whenever a boys club adds on girls teams, they are basically the red-headed stepchild.
Just added revenue for the club.
You are much better off with a girls club.
Liberty, Yellow Jackets, Top Guns, Elevate
Whenever a boys club adds on girls teams, they are basically the red-headed stepchild.
Just added revenue for the club.
You are much better off with a girls club.
Liberty, Yellow Jackets, Top Guns, Elevate
Elevate is a huge step down from the other three (from a talent perspective), as it is a very new program.
Elevate's 2017 team just won National Draw. Their 2019 team won Lax By The Sea. Not bad for a new program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express girls (2015)won their first tournament if you go to the girls website.
They also beat elevate 11-2 at the national draw.
They added a few new players that left for Elevate, several girls from Ward Melville and a Shoreham Goalie.
I am thinking about moving my daughter there as I live close and a friends daughter from St . Anthony's is quite happy there for the past few years with the coaches.
They also beat elevate 11-2 at the national draw.
They added a few new players that left for Elevate, several girls from Ward Melville and a Shoreham Goalie.
I am thinking about moving my daughter there as I live close and a friends daughter from St . Anthony's is quite happy there for the past few years with the coaches.
As you look for a club for your daughter go to a practice in season and watch what is taking place. Are the coaches teaching or are they just standing on the sidelines while the girls are doing drills.My daughter and I recently attended a practice Express had in Commmack and we were pleased to find coaches who were hands on and giving great instructions to their players the entire practice.As with any club every team has different coaches we were looking at 2017 team's practice and were impressed.
I noticed an express girls team practice while waiting for a summer league game at Commack as well. Those practices were run very well. fast paced not sure if i saw a ball touch the ground. The practice was run so well in fact that many of my girls were stating they would rather join Express than TG or YJ if that is how the practices are run.
Great move to practice at a spot where the young girls play summer ball.
Great move to practice at a spot where the young girls play summer ball.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I noticed an express girls team practice while waiting for a summer league game at Commack as well. Those practices were run very well. fast paced not sure if i saw a ball touch the ground. The practice was run so well in fact that many of my girls were stating they would rather join Express than TG or YJ if that is how the practices are run.
Great move to practice at a spot where the young girls play summer ball.
Great move to practice at a spot where the young girls play summer ball.
Nice try to plug the Express program. The Directors care about one thing and one thing only - The BOYS. Girls are an afterthought. The LIE girls have not ever won a major tournament. The program used to be important if you were thinking of sending your daughter to St. Anthony's - now it does not matter.
Not plugging the program, out of mouth of babes, why dont you see for yourself.
but this is the Express site/blog why not give them Kudos here
Nice try to plug the Express program. The Directors care about one thing and one thing only - The BOYS. Girls are an afterthought. The LIE girls have not ever won a major tournament. The program used to be important if you were thinking of sending your daughter to St. Anthony's - now it does not matter.
but this is the Express site/blog why not give them Kudos here
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I noticed an express girls team practice while waiting for a summer league game at Commack as well. Those practices were run very well. fast paced not sure if i saw a ball touch the ground. The practice was run so well in fact that many of my girls were stating they would rather join Express than TG or YJ if that is how the practices are run.
Great move to practice at a spot where the young girls play summer ball.
Great move to practice at a spot where the young girls play summer ball.
Nice try to plug the Express program. The Directors care about one thing and one thing only - The BOYS. Girls are an afterthought. The LIE girls have not ever won a major tournament. The program used to be important if you were thinking of sending your daughter to St. Anthony's - now it does not matter.
And for those of you that are familiar with the travel scene be it boys or girls; it is not always about the organization but the team... the coach, the players, and yes even the parents. One team on any certain organization may not be, act or get the same attention benefits as another team in the same organization (even same grad year with in the organization).
Remember it isn't always fair, it doesn't have to be, it is a business. It is travel ball, know what you're getting into and why you're getting into it. Are you playing to get better and to raise your game, are you playing so you can play against the best, are you playing so you can play with the best. Once you know what you are doing and why, you can honestly find a great spot to play (male or female).
Remember it isn't always fair, it doesn't have to be, it is a business. It is travel ball, know what you're getting into and why you're getting into it. Are you playing to get better and to raise your game, are you playing so you can play against the best, are you playing so you can play with the best. Once you know what you are doing and why, you can honestly find a great spot to play (male or female).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not plugging the program, out of mouth of babes, why dont you see for yourself.
but this is the Express site/blog why not give them Kudos here
Nice try to plug the Express program. The Directors care about one thing and one thing only - The BOYS. Girls are an afterthought. The LIE girls have not ever won a major tournament. The program used to be important if you were thinking of sending your daughter to St. Anthony's - now it does not matter.
but this is the Express site/blog why not give them Kudos here
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I noticed an express girls team practice while waiting for a summer league game at Commack as well. Those practices were run very well. fast paced not sure if i saw a ball touch the ground. The practice was run so well in fact that many of my girls were stating they would rather join Express than TG or YJ if that is how the practices are run.
Great move to practice at a spot where the young girls play summer ball.
Great move to practice at a spot where the young girls play summer ball.
Nice try to plug the Express program. The Directors care about one thing and one thing only - The BOYS. Girls are an afterthought. The LIE girls have not ever won a major tournament. The program used to be important if you were thinking of sending your daughter to St. Anthony's - now it does not matter.
Express to girls top teams are the equivalent talent wise as a 2nd , 3rd level YJ team ,a little below TG black.
Not even close
Well from what I've seen they are doing the right things to get better. It is not always about being #1. Just the best you can be.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well from what I've seen they are doing the right things to get better. It is not always about being #1. Just the best you can be.
Wecwill see at Hofstra tournament who the best girls team is! Good luck to all, have fun!
tob gun is going to win it all at Hofstra
Yes this weekend will prove once and for all which teams in each age group should be considered the best on long island.
what nobody is at that tournament .Yellow Jackets are not their if tob gun can beat them then i would say they were the best for that day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
tob gun is going to win it all at Hofstra
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what nobody is at that tournament .Yellow Jackets are not their if tob gun can beat them then i would say they were the best for that day.
Anyone know how Express did at the Legacy tournament?
I was not impressed with the Express girls teams this weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how Express did at the Legacy tournament?
2019 Terps lost in finals. Were up big but couldn't hold lead. Goalies didn't play well.
Which 2019 terps team, are there 2 or was it the wolverines?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how Express did at the Legacy tournament?
2019 Terps lost in finals. Were up big but couldn't hold lead. Goalies didn't play well.
Nice comment about a rising 7th grade kid. I am sure your kid was awesome, not the issue, right?
Who did they play against?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which 2019 terps team, are there 2 or was it the wolverines?
Why is it the goalies did bad. You probobly weren't even there . How about giving the credit to the opposing team for finding the strength and momentum to stage a great comeback . Nice job Laxachussettes .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how Express did at the Legacy tournament?
2019 Terps lost in finals. Were up big but couldn't hold lead. Goalies didn't play well.
I think it was the attack that didn't play well as the ball obviously wasn't in the offensive end. But it also must have been the middies who didn't play well as the opponents brought the ball past both the attack and middies. Wait, maybe the defense didn't play well since they didn't stop the opponent after the attack and middies failed. Then again maybe they just lost to a better team all around.
team effort on both sides , don't blame a goalie blame the whole team then , Blame the coaches for not adjusting their game plan during the game as the momentum changed . Good for the winning team to be able to play harder when they were down and get back into a game on a most likely 95 degree day after having played most of the day . congratulations to the 11-12 year old's on a game well played and losing to the kids isn't the end of the world it teaches them as well. In both winning and losing there are lessons to be learned use them to get better. Shame on the parents who only base a season on wins and loses , you are in for a long haul with your 11-12 year old if that's all it's about . Look back at the end of the season regardless of win's & loses did my kid get better did he improve does he go to his left and catch and throw better , did his lacrosse I.Q. grow does he see the field better . on defense does he play stronger . Overall did he become a better player in the setting he was in for the year . Parents get past the bragging of my kids on so and so's team and they are the best . And look to see if your kid improved this is one of the huge problems in youth lacrosse today .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well from what I've seen they are doing the right things to get better. It is not always about being #1. Just the best you can be.
Wecwill see at Hofstra tournament who the best girls team is! Good luck to all, have fun!
Express girls had a very rough tournament again. They are not getting the talent or the coaching. We are done and moving on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
team effort on both sides , don't blame a goalie blame the whole team then , Blame the coaches for not adjusting their game plan during the game as the momentum changed . Good for the winning team to be able to play harder when they were down and get back into a game on a most likely 95 degree day after having played most of the day . congratulations to the 11-12 year old's on a game well played and losing to the kids isn't the end of the world it teaches them as well. In both winning and losing there are lessons to be learned use them to get better. Shame on the parents who only base a season on wins and loses , you are in for a long haul with your 11-12 year old if that's all it's about . Look back at the end of the season regardless of win's & loses did my kid get better did he improve does he go to his left and catch and throw better , did his lacrosse I.Q. grow does he see the field better . on defense does he play stronger . Overall did he become a better player in the setting he was in for the year . Parents get past the bragging of my kids on so and so's team and they are the best . And look to see if your kid improved this is one of the huge problems in youth lacrosse today .
Very well said!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
team effort on both sides , don't blame a goalie blame the whole team then , Blame the coaches for not adjusting their game plan during the game as the momentum changed . Good for the winning team to be able to play harder when they were down and get back into a game on a most likely 95 degree day after having played most of the day . congratulations to the 11-12 year old's on a game well played and losing to the kids isn't the end of the world it teaches them as well. In both winning and losing there are lessons to be learned use them to get better. Shame on the parents who only base a season on wins and loses , you are in for a long haul with your 11-12 year old if that's all it's about . Look back at the end of the season regardless of win's & loses did my kid get better did he improve does he go to his left and catch and throw better , did his lacrosse I.Q. grow does he see the field better . on defense does he play stronger . Overall did he become a better player in the setting he was in for the year . Parents get past the bragging of my kids on so and so's team and they are the best . And look to see if your kid improved this is one of the huge problems in youth lacrosse today .
Very well said!!
Why is someone with a brain on this tread? don't you know it is for self absorbed numbskulls.
Yes, excellent attitude indeed, unfortunately the people who run these "elite" organizations may not be as philosophical about it.
Very well said!!
Why is someone with a brain on this tread? don't you know it is for self absorbed numbskulls.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
team effort on both sides , don't blame a goalie blame the whole team then , Blame the coaches for not adjusting their game plan during the game as the momentum changed . Good for the winning team to be able to play harder when they were down and get back into a game on a most likely 95 degree day after having played most of the day . congratulations to the 11-12 year old's on a game well played and losing to the kids isn't the end of the world it teaches them as well. In both winning and losing there are lessons to be learned use them to get better. Shame on the parents who only base a season on wins and loses , you are in for a long haul with your 11-12 year old if that's all it's about . Look back at the end of the season regardless of win's & loses did my kid get better did he improve does he go to his left and catch and throw better , did his lacrosse I.Q. grow does he see the field better . on defense does he play stronger . Overall did he become a better player in the setting he was in for the year . Parents get past the bragging of my kids on so and so's team and they are the best . And look to see if your kid improved this is one of the huge problems in youth lacrosse today .
Very well said!!
Why is someone with a brain on this tread? don't you know it is for self absorbed numbskulls.
Moving on!? How about sticking to a commitment? Show a little loyalty. Express Girls are starting up and it will take time. I would rather be part of a growing program than just go run with a program just for winning. It is a quality program with some great kids. The coaches are young players that are committed, and quality people. Players are the key to any winning team. When people realize it is better to play on a top Express team,than a 3rd or 4th level Yellow Jackets team, things will change. Express needs loyalty, commitment, and positivity. Hey LeBron, take the easy road. It is too hard to stay with us. I'm staying put and proud of it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Moving on!? How about sticking to a commitment? Show a little loyalty. Express Girls are starting up and it will take time. I would rather be part of a growing program than just go run with a program just for winning. It is a quality program with some great kids. The coaches are young players that are committed, and quality people. Players are the key to any winning team. When people realize it is better to play on a top Express team,than a 3rd or 4th level Yellow Jackets team, things will change. Express needs loyalty, commitment, and positivity. Hey LeBron, take the easy road. It is too hard to stay with us. I'm staying put and proud of it.
Lets stick with the facts.
Express girls are "starting up?" They have been around as long as the boys. Maybe o e year less. In the early years they were good and girls were committed but Express was not committed to them.
Your daughter is on the top Express team because she could not make the top team at any of the better clubs. Please show me one real tournament that the Express girls have won recently.
Your kids may be great kids and that is great. You are also right that the coaches are young players; however, that does not make them good coaches and it shows.
You are a boys program geared towards boys. Girls come second.
Thank You LI Express coaches and directors parents and players for another great summer of travel lacrosse!!! I had a chance with two sons playing to be at different age tourns this summer and saw a lot of great kids and families enjoying the experience! Nice to witness and saw good sportsmanship by the teams I had a chance to see play each other. Thanks again !! Now Im off to the pool!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Moving on!? How about sticking to a commitment? Show a little loyalty. Express Girls are starting up and it will take time. I would rather be part of a growing program than just go run with a program just for winning. It is a quality program with some great kids. The coaches are young players that are committed, and quality people. Players are the key to any winning team. When people realize it is better to play on a top Express team,than a 3rd or 4th level Yellow Jackets team, things will change. Express needs loyalty, commitment, and positivity. Hey LeBron, take the easy road. It is too hard to stay with us. I'm staying put and proud of it.
Express Girls is currently rebuilding . In 3 years they should be at the same level that TG is now in their 4 th year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Moving on!? How about sticking to a commitment? Show a little loyalty. Express Girls are starting up and it will take time. I would rather be part of a growing program than just go run with a program just for winning. It is a quality program with some great kids. The coaches are young players that are committed, and quality people. Players are the key to any winning team. When people realize it is better to play on a top Express team,than a 3rd or 4th level Yellow Jackets team, things will change. Express needs loyalty, commitment, and positivity. Hey LeBron, take the easy road. It is too hard to stay with us. I'm staying put and proud of it.
Express Girls is currently rebuilding . In 3 years they should be at the same level that TG is now in their 4 th year.
I just heard a rumor last night that the express girls program might be folding. Did anyone else hear that, or know if there's any truth to it at all? I seriously doubt it...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Moving on!? How about sticking to a commitment? Show a little loyalty. Express Girls are starting up and it will take time. I would rather be part of a growing program than just go run with a program just for winning. It is a quality program with some great kids. The coaches are young players that are committed, and quality people. Players are the key to any winning team. When people realize it is better to play on a top Express team,than a 3rd or 4th level Yellow Jackets team, things will change. Express needs loyalty, commitment, and positivity. Hey LeBron, take the easy road. It is too hard to stay with us. I'm staying put and proud of it.
Express Girls is currently rebuilding . In 3 years they should be at the same level that TG is now in their 4 th year.
I just heard a rumor last night that the express girls program might be folding. Did anyone else hear that, or know if there's any truth to it at all? I seriously doubt it...
Too much money involved. Won't fold.
Team 91 Girls is getting GOOD!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 Girls is getting GOOD!
Nice Pot stirring. 91 girls have not won a single meaningful tournament. Neither has LI Express. Down at U15's and heard a lot of grumbling about Express girls program.
The Team 91 Girl's 2017 team won the Long Island Lax Fest, BEATING Express 2017 TWICE!--which were both BLOWOUT games! What do you mean by meaningful? A WIN IS A WIN, and you're too blinded to see that. Long Island Express is BY FAR worse--they came in second to last place in the entire tournament..Team 91 is an up and coming program, and they truly do have talent on their side..
Awkward because Team 91 Girls is BY FAR better then Express..was at the Long Island Lax Fest the past weekend with the GC team and saw some truly amazing playing coming from the 91 2017 Girl's team! A well deserved championship win! THIS is a team that is up and coming but its making its mark throughout the east coast..
For the boys 2021 Express teams who are the coaches (and backround), Where do they practice, How much is it if you make the team and what do you get for that money? Any info would be helpful to me. Thanks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the boys 2021 Express teams who are the coaches (and backround), Where do they practice, How much is it if you make the team and what do you get for that money? Any info would be helpful to me. Thanks.
Very very competitive , they run 4 middy lines, playing time is sparse for some of those players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the boys 2021 Express teams who are the coaches (and backround), Where do they practice, How much is it if you make the team and what do you get for that money? Any info would be helpful to me. Thanks.
Very very competitive , they run 4 middy lines, playing time is sparse for some of those players.
Thanks...How much playing time does the defense get? I assume they have six players there. I heard they hold 26 on the team but were going to lower that number next year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Moving on!? How about sticking to a commitment? Show a little loyalty. Express Girls are starting up and it will take time. I would rather be part of a growing program than just go run with a program just for winning. It is a quality program with some great kids. The coaches are young players that are committed, and quality people. Players are the key to any winning team. When people realize it is better to play on a top Express team,than a 3rd or 4th level Yellow Jackets team, things will change. Express needs loyalty, commitment, and positivity. Hey LeBron, take the easy road. It is too hard to stay with us. I'm staying put and proud of it.
Express Girls is currently rebuilding . In 3 years they should be at the same level that TG is now in their 4 th year.
I just heard a rumor last night that the express girls program might be folding. Did anyone else hear that, or know if there's any truth to it at all? I seriously doubt it...
Too much money involved. Won't fold.
Just saw the same rumor on 2017 girls thread, about Express Girls folding...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the boys 2021 Express teams who are the coaches (and backround), Where do they practice, How much is it if you make the team and what do you get for that money? Any info would be helpful to me. Thanks.
Very very competitive , they run 4 middy lines, playing time is sparse for some of those players.
Thanks...How much playing time does the defense get? I assume they have six players there. I heard they hold 26 on the team but were going to lower that number next year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Moving on!? How about sticking to a commitment? Show a little loyalty. Express Girls are starting up and it will take time. I would rather be part of a growing program than just go run with a program just for winning. It is a quality program with some great kids. The coaches are young players that are committed, and quality people. Players are the key to any winning team. When people realize it is better to play on a top Express team,than a 3rd or 4th level Yellow Jackets team, things will change. Express needs loyalty, commitment, and positivity. Hey LeBron, take the easy road. It is too hard to stay with us. I'm staying put and proud of it.
Express Girls is currently rebuilding . In 3 years they should be at the same level that TG is now in their 4 th year.
I just heard a rumor last night that the express girls program might be folding. Did anyone else hear that, or know if there's any truth to it at all? I seriously doubt it...
Too much money involved. Won't fold.
Just saw the same rumor on 2017 girls thread, about Express Girls folding...
Anybody know if there's any truth to it?
Here is something better to questioned and think about....
As with every one of these travel lax programs, the play time and touches is yours to take advantage of. It is not PAL. Remember, the structure is not a 'get what you pay for', but a 'get what you put in'. That's where 'worth' comes onto the playing field. Get the value with your own actions.
If you're at practice, you learn the plays on offense, the slides on defense, etc. The athlete gets better as the year progresses.
But just like any team sport, I would think the effort, skill, and player reliability are key factors. That's the structure. If you're not at practice, you slip, and begin to miss a few things. And I'm sure not all the practices of any of the teams in this age group had 100% attendance, and therefore, plenty of play time and touches were available. And in reality, the kids are so young to be concerned with counting touches, don't you think? (btw, the roster is about 22)
These are competitive teams (Express, 91, Igloo, Team LI, etc)...that always like to move forward, but IT IS an overall team effort throughout the season. Some pick up, where others dropped off. Every one...parent, player, coach, director...contributes to the success (or failure) of the season, no matter the size of the roster. If you're at practice and learn what the coaches need, it helps. If you're not, it's doesn't, your money. If the time management of the coaches doesn't utilize players during every minute of practice, and some kids sit and watch...that hurts as well.
It's the CHOICE of everyone involved in any program, from top to bottom. BUT, no matter the program, teams eventually become a 'group think' with 'group behavior'...where high expectations become the norm, or the lack of involvement become an expectation.
And any given day can be different. If everyone is there all the time, learning the same stuff, the bench can go deep. But 'all the time' doesn't happen, as it's not a perfect world. We all miss some practices and games. Players miss practice. Coaches miss practice. Because we all should have lives outside lacrosse, especially at this age level!
Athletes make an awesome play, coaches call the wrong play, refs make errors...any combination you like. In sport, there is always a factor of human error based on decisionS that are made by everyone...one day a team is great, the next it falters. The best teams minimize the error.
THAT IS WHY IT IS TEAM SPORT. THAT IS WHY IT IS INTERESTING. THAT IS WHY IT IS FUN!
If you're concerned about play time, roster numbers, or counting touches...call the director of the program, the coach of the team, or get a pitch back. Don't rely on the opinions in forums that can be full of hate and deceit...or real truths that may be hard to decipher...mine included.
Just find the team that fits your definition of sport...and one that is ultimately best for your young athlete and family lifestyle.
As with every one of these travel lax programs, the play time and touches is yours to take advantage of. It is not PAL. Remember, the structure is not a 'get what you pay for', but a 'get what you put in'. That's where 'worth' comes onto the playing field. Get the value with your own actions.
If you're at practice, you learn the plays on offense, the slides on defense, etc. The athlete gets better as the year progresses.
But just like any team sport, I would think the effort, skill, and player reliability are key factors. That's the structure. If you're not at practice, you slip, and begin to miss a few things. And I'm sure not all the practices of any of the teams in this age group had 100% attendance, and therefore, plenty of play time and touches were available. And in reality, the kids are so young to be concerned with counting touches, don't you think? (btw, the roster is about 22)
These are competitive teams (Express, 91, Igloo, Team LI, etc)...that always like to move forward, but IT IS an overall team effort throughout the season. Some pick up, where others dropped off. Every one...parent, player, coach, director...contributes to the success (or failure) of the season, no matter the size of the roster. If you're at practice and learn what the coaches need, it helps. If you're not, it's doesn't, your money. If the time management of the coaches doesn't utilize players during every minute of practice, and some kids sit and watch...that hurts as well.
It's the CHOICE of everyone involved in any program, from top to bottom. BUT, no matter the program, teams eventually become a 'group think' with 'group behavior'...where high expectations become the norm, or the lack of involvement become an expectation.
And any given day can be different. If everyone is there all the time, learning the same stuff, the bench can go deep. But 'all the time' doesn't happen, as it's not a perfect world. We all miss some practices and games. Players miss practice. Coaches miss practice. Because we all should have lives outside lacrosse, especially at this age level!
Athletes make an awesome play, coaches call the wrong play, refs make errors...any combination you like. In sport, there is always a factor of human error based on decisionS that are made by everyone...one day a team is great, the next it falters. The best teams minimize the error.
THAT IS WHY IT IS TEAM SPORT. THAT IS WHY IT IS INTERESTING. THAT IS WHY IT IS FUN!
If you're concerned about play time, roster numbers, or counting touches...call the director of the program, the coach of the team, or get a pitch back. Don't rely on the opinions in forums that can be full of hate and deceit...or real truths that may be hard to decipher...mine included.
Just find the team that fits your definition of sport...and one that is ultimately best for your young athlete and family lifestyle.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here is something better to questioned and think about....
As with every one of these travel lax programs, the play time and touches is yours to take advantage of. It is not PAL. Remember, the structure is not a 'get what you pay for', but a 'get what you put in'. That's where 'worth' comes onto the playing field. Get the value with your own actions.
If you're at practice, you learn the plays on offense, the slides on defense, etc. The athlete gets better as the year progresses.
But just like any team sport, I would think the effort, skill, and player reliability are key factors. That's the structure. If you're not at practice, you slip, and begin to miss a few things. And I'm sure not all the practices of any of the teams in this age group had 100% attendance, and therefore, plenty of play time and touches were available. And in reality, the kids are so young to be concerned with counting touches, don't you think? (btw, the roster is about 22)
These are competitive teams (Express, 91, Igloo, Team LI, etc)...that always like to move forward, but IT IS an overall team effort throughout the season. Some pick up, where others dropped off. Every one...parent, player, coach, director...contributes to the success (or failure) of the season, no matter the size of the roster. If you're at practice and learn what the coaches need, it helps. If you're not, it's doesn't, your money. If the time management of the coaches doesn't utilize players during every minute of practice, and some kids sit and watch...that hurts as well.
It's the CHOICE of everyone involved in any program, from top to bottom. BUT, no matter the program, teams eventually become a 'group think' with 'group behavior'...where high expectations become the norm, or the lack of involvement become an expectation.
And any given day can be different. If everyone is there all the time, learning the same stuff, the bench can go deep. But 'all the time' doesn't happen, as it's not a perfect world. We all miss some practices and games. Players miss practice. Coaches miss practice. Because we all should have lives outside lacrosse, especially at this age level!
Athletes make an awesome play, coaches call the wrong play, refs make errors...any combination you like. In sport, there is always a factor of human error based on decisionS that are made by everyone...one day a team is great, the next it falters. The best teams minimize the error.
THAT IS WHY IT IS TEAM SPORT. THAT IS WHY IT IS INTERESTING. THAT IS WHY IT IS FUN!
If you're concerned about play time, roster numbers, or counting touches...call the director of the program, the coach of the team, or get a pitch back. Don't rely on the opinions in forums that can be full of hate and deceit...or real truths that may be hard to decipher...mine included.
Just find the team that fits your definition of sport...and one that is ultimately best for your young athlete and family lifestyle.
As with every one of these travel lax programs, the play time and touches is yours to take advantage of. It is not PAL. Remember, the structure is not a 'get what you pay for', but a 'get what you put in'. That's where 'worth' comes onto the playing field. Get the value with your own actions.
If you're at practice, you learn the plays on offense, the slides on defense, etc. The athlete gets better as the year progresses.
But just like any team sport, I would think the effort, skill, and player reliability are key factors. That's the structure. If you're not at practice, you slip, and begin to miss a few things. And I'm sure not all the practices of any of the teams in this age group had 100% attendance, and therefore, plenty of play time and touches were available. And in reality, the kids are so young to be concerned with counting touches, don't you think? (btw, the roster is about 22)
These are competitive teams (Express, 91, Igloo, Team LI, etc)...that always like to move forward, but IT IS an overall team effort throughout the season. Some pick up, where others dropped off. Every one...parent, player, coach, director...contributes to the success (or failure) of the season, no matter the size of the roster. If you're at practice and learn what the coaches need, it helps. If you're not, it's doesn't, your money. If the time management of the coaches doesn't utilize players during every minute of practice, and some kids sit and watch...that hurts as well.
It's the CHOICE of everyone involved in any program, from top to bottom. BUT, no matter the program, teams eventually become a 'group think' with 'group behavior'...where high expectations become the norm, or the lack of involvement become an expectation.
And any given day can be different. If everyone is there all the time, learning the same stuff, the bench can go deep. But 'all the time' doesn't happen, as it's not a perfect world. We all miss some practices and games. Players miss practice. Coaches miss practice. Because we all should have lives outside lacrosse, especially at this age level!
Athletes make an awesome play, coaches call the wrong play, refs make errors...any combination you like. In sport, there is always a factor of human error based on decisionS that are made by everyone...one day a team is great, the next it falters. The best teams minimize the error.
THAT IS WHY IT IS TEAM SPORT. THAT IS WHY IT IS INTERESTING. THAT IS WHY IT IS FUN!
If you're concerned about play time, roster numbers, or counting touches...call the director of the program, the coach of the team, or get a pitch back. Don't rely on the opinions in forums that can be full of hate and deceit...or real truths that may be hard to decipher...mine included.
Just find the team that fits your definition of sport...and one that is ultimately best for your young athlete and family lifestyle.
What in the world are you talking about??? Summer lax used to be, and should never be, more than a vehicle to improve the players game!!! Nothing more, nothing less. Is your son better today than he was when he started? That should be the measure of success... I promise you, in five years from now, you will not remember how many tourns your kids team won. News flash, as they get older and play in front of the coaches, no one cares who wins the games... Least of all the coaches recruiting!! Let this guide you.
I believe you are supporting what I said, but I spelled it out differently. Most likely in a flurry without reading it through. Apologies.
So what am I talking about, you ask?
There have been questions about coaching, about the number of players on rosters, the cost of the program, about touches on defense (of all positions), and playtime. About a 2021 team! It's ridiculous.
The posters earlier in the thread are fishing for answers about the program. For all I know, the original poster is also trying to learn more about the youth lax community and system. And that's what I expanded the conversation to be about.
Some of the answers, given to the original poster, I think, are inaccurate. I tried summing it up to be as realistic as possible. Pretty poorly I guess. My post was my assessment of the different aspects involved in this crazy youth sports world, specifically lax, on LI.
I was merely stating you get what you put in in to it. Don't expect to get better by shelling out some dough. Don't expect to get better if you don't show up to practice. Don't expect to play if you are not there to know how the team functions. That is a harsh reality.
It's what you put into it. Really, who cares about touches for a 2021 team?...And talk about playtime?...come on...Playtime is directly related to being on the practice field and improving. It always has been. Hey, even when we wore those tight polyester shorts in high school.
Reality check: It's not equal play like PAL. If you're not there for practice, it's gonna affect the team. It will definitely affect playtime. The CHOICE is your to make. The commitment is yours. All for the sole purpose of fun, improvement, and competition. Yes, improving. I agree. Like the days of old.
And when one poster flatly states "26+ players means less playing time and less reps in practice. something to question for top dollar price." or "4 middy lines" to rouse the forum, it drives me insane. They are, in fact, inaccurate statements. I guess I fell hook line and sinker. Sorry everyone.
I was trying to help one poster weave their way through the ever so difficult youth lax world, today, not what it used to be. I agree it used to be about improving. But today, not only is it about improving, but also competition, and unfortunately, business.
BTW, I never once mentioned anything about the number of wins, as that means nothing to me. I wrote that narrowing down errors in different facets of the game make a team better. From player, parent, coach and director. That's not a new sport philosophy and certainly not far fetched. It's the reality of these programs in today's competitive lax world. They are trying to find that magical combination.
AND, I mentioned nothing about tourneys.
New News flash: I don't even have college coaches or recruitment on the radar, nor was it mentioned. So I don't know how that was brought into play. What are you talking about? But to go on your train of thought...I'm thinking about grades, math and science...and using the state schools. Anyone expecting to be recruited and scholarship'd are fooling themselves. Any family who has money for private schools these days, you took a better path than I...congrats.
Faith and family first. Education second. Sports further down the line.
I'll quit the jabber. Sorry if I ruffled feathers. And more importantly, apologies if my writing is not clear. Too much coffee I guess. I'm done and in the future will keep my opinions to myself.
So what am I talking about, you ask?
There have been questions about coaching, about the number of players on rosters, the cost of the program, about touches on defense (of all positions), and playtime. About a 2021 team! It's ridiculous.
The posters earlier in the thread are fishing for answers about the program. For all I know, the original poster is also trying to learn more about the youth lax community and system. And that's what I expanded the conversation to be about.
Some of the answers, given to the original poster, I think, are inaccurate. I tried summing it up to be as realistic as possible. Pretty poorly I guess. My post was my assessment of the different aspects involved in this crazy youth sports world, specifically lax, on LI.
I was merely stating you get what you put in in to it. Don't expect to get better by shelling out some dough. Don't expect to get better if you don't show up to practice. Don't expect to play if you are not there to know how the team functions. That is a harsh reality.
It's what you put into it. Really, who cares about touches for a 2021 team?...And talk about playtime?...come on...Playtime is directly related to being on the practice field and improving. It always has been. Hey, even when we wore those tight polyester shorts in high school.
Reality check: It's not equal play like PAL. If you're not there for practice, it's gonna affect the team. It will definitely affect playtime. The CHOICE is your to make. The commitment is yours. All for the sole purpose of fun, improvement, and competition. Yes, improving. I agree. Like the days of old.
And when one poster flatly states "26+ players means less playing time and less reps in practice. something to question for top dollar price." or "4 middy lines" to rouse the forum, it drives me insane. They are, in fact, inaccurate statements. I guess I fell hook line and sinker. Sorry everyone.
I was trying to help one poster weave their way through the ever so difficult youth lax world, today, not what it used to be. I agree it used to be about improving. But today, not only is it about improving, but also competition, and unfortunately, business.
BTW, I never once mentioned anything about the number of wins, as that means nothing to me. I wrote that narrowing down errors in different facets of the game make a team better. From player, parent, coach and director. That's not a new sport philosophy and certainly not far fetched. It's the reality of these programs in today's competitive lax world. They are trying to find that magical combination.
AND, I mentioned nothing about tourneys.
New News flash: I don't even have college coaches or recruitment on the radar, nor was it mentioned. So I don't know how that was brought into play. What are you talking about? But to go on your train of thought...I'm thinking about grades, math and science...and using the state schools. Anyone expecting to be recruited and scholarship'd are fooling themselves. Any family who has money for private schools these days, you took a better path than I...congrats.
Faith and family first. Education second. Sports further down the line.
I'll quit the jabber. Sorry if I ruffled feathers. And more importantly, apologies if my writing is not clear. Too much coffee I guess. I'm done and in the future will keep my opinions to myself.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I believe you are supporting what I said, but I spelled it out differently. Most likely in a flurry without reading it through. Apologies.
So what am I talking about, you ask?
There have been questions about coaching, about the number of players on rosters, the cost of the program, about touches on defense (of all positions), and playtime. About a 2021 team! It's ridiculous.
The posters earlier in the thread are fishing for answers about the program. For all I know, the original poster is also trying to learn more about the youth lax community and system. And that's what I expanded the conversation to be about.
Some of the answers, given to the original poster, I think, are inaccurate. I tried summing it up to be as realistic as possible. Pretty poorly I guess. My post was my assessment of the different aspects involved in this crazy youth sports world, specifically lax, on LI.
I was merely stating you get what you put in in to it. Don't expect to get better by shelling out some dough. Don't expect to get better if you don't show up to practice. Don't expect to play if you are not there to know how the team functions. That is a harsh reality.
It's what you put into it. Really, who cares about touches for a 2021 team?...And talk about playtime?...come on...Playtime is directly related to being on the practice field and improving. It always has been. Hey, even when we wore those tight polyester shorts in high school.
Reality check: It's not equal play like PAL. If you're not there for practice, it's gonna affect the team. It will definitely affect playtime. The CHOICE is your to make. The commitment is yours. All for the sole purpose of fun, improvement, and competition. Yes, improving. I agree. Like the days of old.
And when one poster flatly states "26+ players means less playing time and less reps in practice. something to question for top dollar price." or "4 middy lines" to rouse the forum, it drives me insane. They are, in fact, inaccurate statements. I guess I fell hook line and sinker. Sorry everyone.
I was trying to help one poster weave their way through the ever so difficult youth lax world, today, not what it used to be. I agree it used to be about improving. But today, not only is it about improving, but also competition, and unfortunately, business.
BTW, I never once mentioned anything about the number of wins, as that means nothing to me. I wrote that narrowing down errors in different facets of the game make a team better. From player, parent, coach and director. That's not a new sport philosophy and certainly not far fetched. It's the reality of these programs in today's competitive lax world. They are trying to find that magical combination.
AND, I mentioned nothing about tourneys.
New News flash: I don't even have college coaches or recruitment on the radar, nor was it mentioned. So I don't know how that was brought into play. What are you talking about? But to go on your train of thought...I'm thinking about grades, math and science...and using the state schools. Anyone expecting to be recruited and scholarship'd are fooling themselves. Any family who has money for private schools these days, you took a better path than I...congrats.
Faith and family first. Education second. Sports further down the line.
I'll quit the jabber. Sorry if I ruffled feathers. And more importantly, apologies if my writing is not clear. Too much coffee I guess. I'm done and in the future will keep my opinions to myself.
So what am I talking about, you ask?
There have been questions about coaching, about the number of players on rosters, the cost of the program, about touches on defense (of all positions), and playtime. About a 2021 team! It's ridiculous.
The posters earlier in the thread are fishing for answers about the program. For all I know, the original poster is also trying to learn more about the youth lax community and system. And that's what I expanded the conversation to be about.
Some of the answers, given to the original poster, I think, are inaccurate. I tried summing it up to be as realistic as possible. Pretty poorly I guess. My post was my assessment of the different aspects involved in this crazy youth sports world, specifically lax, on LI.
I was merely stating you get what you put in in to it. Don't expect to get better by shelling out some dough. Don't expect to get better if you don't show up to practice. Don't expect to play if you are not there to know how the team functions. That is a harsh reality.
It's what you put into it. Really, who cares about touches for a 2021 team?...And talk about playtime?...come on...Playtime is directly related to being on the practice field and improving. It always has been. Hey, even when we wore those tight polyester shorts in high school.
Reality check: It's not equal play like PAL. If you're not there for practice, it's gonna affect the team. It will definitely affect playtime. The CHOICE is your to make. The commitment is yours. All for the sole purpose of fun, improvement, and competition. Yes, improving. I agree. Like the days of old.
And when one poster flatly states "26+ players means less playing time and less reps in practice. something to question for top dollar price." or "4 middy lines" to rouse the forum, it drives me insane. They are, in fact, inaccurate statements. I guess I fell hook line and sinker. Sorry everyone.
I was trying to help one poster weave their way through the ever so difficult youth lax world, today, not what it used to be. I agree it used to be about improving. But today, not only is it about improving, but also competition, and unfortunately, business.
BTW, I never once mentioned anything about the number of wins, as that means nothing to me. I wrote that narrowing down errors in different facets of the game make a team better. From player, parent, coach and director. That's not a new sport philosophy and certainly not far fetched. It's the reality of these programs in today's competitive lax world. They are trying to find that magical combination.
AND, I mentioned nothing about tourneys.
New News flash: I don't even have college coaches or recruitment on the radar, nor was it mentioned. So I don't know how that was brought into play. What are you talking about? But to go on your train of thought...I'm thinking about grades, math and science...and using the state schools. Anyone expecting to be recruited and scholarship'd are fooling themselves. Any family who has money for private schools these days, you took a better path than I...congrats.
Faith and family first. Education second. Sports further down the line.
I'll quit the jabber. Sorry if I ruffled feathers. And more importantly, apologies if my writing is not clear. Too much coffee I guess. I'm done and in the future will keep my opinions to myself.
$3000+ next summer? Is that a joke, rumor or does anybody know that for a fact?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I believe you are supporting what I said, but I spelled it out differently. Most likely in a flurry without reading it through. Apologies.
So what am I talking about, you ask?
There have been questions about coaching, about the number of players on rosters, the cost of the program, about touches on defense (of all positions), and playtime. About a 2021 team! It's ridiculous.
The posters earlier in the thread are fishing for answers about the program. For all I know, the original poster is also trying to learn more about the youth lax community and system. And that's what I expanded the conversation to be about.
Some of the answers, given to the original poster, I think, are inaccurate. I tried summing it up to be as realistic as possible. Pretty poorly I guess. My post was my assessment of the different aspects involved in this crazy youth sports world, specifically lax, on LI.
I was merely stating you get what you put in in to it. Don't expect to get better by shelling out some dough. Don't expect to get better if you don't show up to practice. Don't expect to play if you are not there to know how the team functions. That is a harsh reality.
It's what you put into it. Really, who cares about touches for a 2021 team?...And talk about playtime?...come on...Playtime is directly related to being on the practice field and improving. It always has been. Hey, even when we wore those tight polyester shorts in high school.
Reality check: It's not equal play like PAL. If you're not there for practice, it's gonna affect the team. It will definitely affect playtime. The CHOICE is your to make. The commitment is yours. All for the sole purpose of fun, improvement, and competition. Yes, improving. I agree. Like the days of old.
And when one poster flatly states "26+ players means less playing time and less reps in practice. something to question for top dollar price." or "4 middy lines" to rouse the forum, it drives me insane. They are, in fact, inaccurate statements. I guess I fell hook line and sinker. Sorry everyone.
I was trying to help one poster weave their way through the ever so difficult youth lax world, today, not what it used to be. I agree it used to be about improving. But today, not only is it about improving, but also competition, and unfortunately, business.
BTW, I never once mentioned anything about the number of wins, as that means nothing to me. I wrote that narrowing down errors in different facets of the game make a team better. From player, parent, coach and director. That's not a new sport philosophy and certainly not far fetched. It's the reality of these programs in today's competitive lax world. They are trying to find that magical combination.
AND, I mentioned nothing about tourneys.
New News flash: I don't even have college coaches or recruitment on the radar, nor was it mentioned. So I don't know how that was brought into play. What are you talking about? But to go on your train of thought...I'm thinking about grades, math and science...and using the state schools. Anyone expecting to be recruited and scholarship'd are fooling themselves. Any family who has money for private schools these days, you took a better path than I...congrats.
Faith and family first. Education second. Sports further down the line.
I'll quit the jabber. Sorry if I ruffled feathers. And more importantly, apologies if my writing is not clear. Too much coffee I guess. I'm done and in the future will keep my opinions to myself.
Can you have a shorter opinion next time?
So what am I talking about, you ask?
There have been questions about coaching, about the number of players on rosters, the cost of the program, about touches on defense (of all positions), and playtime. About a 2021 team! It's ridiculous.
The posters earlier in the thread are fishing for answers about the program. For all I know, the original poster is also trying to learn more about the youth lax community and system. And that's what I expanded the conversation to be about.
Some of the answers, given to the original poster, I think, are inaccurate. I tried summing it up to be as realistic as possible. Pretty poorly I guess. My post was my assessment of the different aspects involved in this crazy youth sports world, specifically lax, on LI.
I was merely stating you get what you put in in to it. Don't expect to get better by shelling out some dough. Don't expect to get better if you don't show up to practice. Don't expect to play if you are not there to know how the team functions. That is a harsh reality.
It's what you put into it. Really, who cares about touches for a 2021 team?...And talk about playtime?...come on...Playtime is directly related to being on the practice field and improving. It always has been. Hey, even when we wore those tight polyester shorts in high school.
Reality check: It's not equal play like PAL. If you're not there for practice, it's gonna affect the team. It will definitely affect playtime. The CHOICE is your to make. The commitment is yours. All for the sole purpose of fun, improvement, and competition. Yes, improving. I agree. Like the days of old.
And when one poster flatly states "26+ players means less playing time and less reps in practice. something to question for top dollar price." or "4 middy lines" to rouse the forum, it drives me insane. They are, in fact, inaccurate statements. I guess I fell hook line and sinker. Sorry everyone.
I was trying to help one poster weave their way through the ever so difficult youth lax world, today, not what it used to be. I agree it used to be about improving. But today, not only is it about improving, but also competition, and unfortunately, business.
BTW, I never once mentioned anything about the number of wins, as that means nothing to me. I wrote that narrowing down errors in different facets of the game make a team better. From player, parent, coach and director. That's not a new sport philosophy and certainly not far fetched. It's the reality of these programs in today's competitive lax world. They are trying to find that magical combination.
AND, I mentioned nothing about tourneys.
New News flash: I don't even have college coaches or recruitment on the radar, nor was it mentioned. So I don't know how that was brought into play. What are you talking about? But to go on your train of thought...I'm thinking about grades, math and science...and using the state schools. Anyone expecting to be recruited and scholarship'd are fooling themselves. Any family who has money for private schools these days, you took a better path than I...congrats.
Faith and family first. Education second. Sports further down the line.
I'll quit the jabber. Sorry if I ruffled feathers. And more importantly, apologies if my writing is not clear. Too much coffee I guess. I'm done and in the future will keep my opinions to myself.
Can you have a shorter opinion next time?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$3000+ next summer? Is that a joke, rumor or does anybody know that for a fact?
If you add the tuition this year plus all of the additional training fees throughout the year it is already over 2k.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$3000+ next summer? Is that a joke, rumor or does anybody know that for a fact?
If you add the tuition this year plus all of the additional training fees throughout the year it is already over 2k.
They added the Fall and winter season last year that cost you $800. The spring OBLL was $200. The summer tournament season was $1650 (an increase of $50 to the prior year). If you made the team, you did not have to play fall of winter.
Does anyone know when Express is doing tryouts?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know when Express is doing tryouts?
Good question. Also, does anyone know if they're dropping their girls program?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$3000+ next summer? Is that a joke, rumor or does anybody know that for a fact?
If you add the tuition this year plus all of the additional training fees throughout the year it is already over 2k.
They added the Fall and winter season last year that cost you $800. The spring OBLL was $200. The summer tournament season was $1650 (an increase of $50 to the prior year). If you made the team, you did not have to play fall of winter.
So that's around 2k and you didn't mention the training sessions that MC run that the players are strongly encouraged to attend at $80 a pop.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$3000+ next summer? Is that a joke, rumor or does anybody know that for a fact?
If you add the tuition this year plus all of the additional training fees throughout the year it is already over 2k.
They added the Fall and winter season last year that cost you $800. The spring OBLL was $200. The summer tournament season was $1650 (an increase of $50 to the prior year). If you made the team, you did not have to play fall of winter.
So that's around 2k and you didn't mention the training sessions that MC run that the players are strongly encouraged to attend at $80 a pop.
Sorry, that is $2,650 plus, plus, plus...BTW there are not many clubs out there for much less if you are playing year round. when you add it all up, winter league, spring league, training sessions, speed & agility, blah, blah, blah, its big $$. Love it or leave it!
We are the ones to blame. The Express keeps raising the "tuition" and we keep paying. Here is a great point. The 2014 class had 3 teams last year, over 70 kids. They have 19 kids committed. If you are not on the orange team, you are throwing your $ away. Unless of course you are the parents who just want your kid to have fun.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are the ones to blame. The Express keeps raising the "tuition" and we keep paying. Here is a great point. The 2014 class had 3 teams last year, over 70 kids. They have 19 kids committed. If you are not on the orange team, you are throwing your $ away. Unless of course you are the parents who just want your kid to have fun.
Exactly! If your kid is on the A team for express or 91 than it may be worth the $ because those teams get treated a lot better and get more for the money than the B and C teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are the ones to blame. The Express keeps raising the "tuition" and we keep paying. Here is a great point. The 2014 class had 3 teams last year, over 70 kids. They have 19 kids committed. If you are not on the orange team, you are throwing your $ away. Unless of course you are the parents who just want your kid to have fun.
You bring up a great point that we are to blame. I think that we are ALL CRAZY. But, you are a parent, and you want the best for your children whether academically or with sports. We are suppose to give them the best opportunity to succeed. But the last thing you mentioned I agree with the most...HAVE FUN. It does not matter which club you decide to give your money to, as long as your child is still enjoying it and not getting "burnt out" at 13, go with the flow and cheer them on!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are the ones to blame. The Express keeps raising the "tuition" and we keep paying. Here is a great point. The 2014 class had 3 teams last year, over 70 kids. They have 19 kids committed. If you are not on the orange team, you are throwing your $ away. Unless of course you are the parents who just want your kid to have fun.
Exactly! If your kid is on the A team for express or 91 than it may be worth the $ because those teams get treated a lot better and get more for the money than the B and C teams.
91 Orange is a B team, at least at the 2017 level
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 Orange is a B team, at least at the 2017 level
B team? They won at least 2 tournaments in the A division this summer out of the 5 they played.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 Orange is a B team, at least at the 2017 level
B team? They won at least 2 tournaments in the A division this summer out of the 5 they played.
What 2 tournaments did they win?
Go back to the 91 board and bring your B team with you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 Orange is a B team, at least at the 2017 level
B team? They won at least 2 tournaments in the A division this summer out of the 5 they played.
What 2 tournaments did they win?
This summer they won:
NXT Summer Invitational
LI Laxfest
Lehigh Laxfest
All in the A division. Not saying they are better than the Turtles or True Blues A team but they are right behind those teams.
Any word on when Express will be holding tryouts?
It is by invitation only for the A teams this year. Just kidding they are going to take our $125 dollars for the tryout fee and then kick us in the ba!!s for the $3000 tuition. You heard it hear first.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is by invitation only for the A teams this year. Just kidding they are going to take our $125 dollars for the tryout fee and then kick us in the ba!!s for the $3000 tuition. You heard it hear first.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is by invitation only for the A teams this year. Just kidding they are going to take our $125 dollars for the tryout fee and then kick us in the ba!!s for the $3000 tuition. You heard it hear first.
What about 2018-2020. Is A already predetermined or are spots open. Will any tryouts be for a B team which isnt decided on until June. Will going to the "clinic" this week give anyone a better shot at being recognized to have A abilities.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is by invitation only for the A teams this year. Just kidding they are going to take our $125 dollars for the tryout fee and then kick us in the ba!!s for the $3000 tuition. You heard it hear first.
What about 2018-2020. Is A already predetermined or are spots open. Will any tryouts be for a B team which isnt decided on until June. Will going to the "clinic" this week give anyone a better shot at being recognized to have A abilities.
Express has clinics this week?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is by invitation only for the A teams this year. Just kidding they are going to take our $125 dollars for the tryout fee and then kick us in the ba!!s for the $3000 tuition. You heard it hear first.
What about 2018-2020. Is A already predetermined or are spots open. Will any tryouts be for a B team which isnt decided on until June. Will going to the "clinic" this week give anyone a better shot at being recognized to have A abilities.
Express has clinics this week?
last summer the 2015 Express Orange team won the U15 nationals and a month later one of the two goalies (who is excellent and goes to St A's) did not make the team and played for the Blue team this year. so stop the BS, They want to win and are going to take the kids on the "A" team that will help them win. A second 2015 who played on the white team last summer made the orange team this summer and has already committed to a good D1 program. They take the top players on the "A" team if anything they take to many kids. If you want to make the top team in a grade level - play well in the tryout. kids will make the team on the field not on BOTC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
st summer the 2015 Express Orange team won the U15 nationals and a month later one of the two goalies (who is excellent and goes to St A's) did not make the team and played for the Blue team this year. so stop the BS, They want to win and are going to take the kids on the "A" team that will help them win. A second 2015 who played on the white team last summer made the orange team this summer and has already committed to a good D1 program. They take the top players on the "A" team if anything they take to many kids. If you want to make the top team in a grade level - play well in the tryout. kids will make the team on the field not on BOTC
That's not how it works with the 2017 express age group. Their are some players who are locked into roster spots on the A team each year that clearly don't belong.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
st summer the 2015 Express Orange team won the U15 nationals and a month later one of the two goalies (who is excellent and goes to St A's) did not make the team and played for the Blue team this year. so stop the BS, They want to win and are going to take the kids on the "A" team that will help them win. A second 2015 who played on the white team last summer made the orange team this summer and has already committed to a good D1 program. They take the top players on the "A" team if anything they take to many kids. If you want to make the top team in a grade level - play well in the tryout. kids will make the team on the field not on BOTC
That's not how it works with the 2017 express age group. Their are some players who are locked into roster spots on the A team each year that clearly don't belong.
That will change in 2 years, a few kids will get dropped from this team to the dismay of there parents. Prepare yourself!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
st summer the 2015 Express Orange team won the U15 nationals and a month later one of the two goalies (who is excellent and goes to St A's) did not make the team and played for the Blue team this year. so stop the BS, They want to win and are going to take the kids on the "A" team that will help them win. A second 2015 who played on the white team last summer made the orange team this summer and has already committed to a good D1 program. They take the top players on the "A" team if anything they take to many kids. If you want to make the top team in a grade level - play well in the tryout. kids will make the team on the field not on BOTC
That's not how it works with the 2017 express age group. Their are some players who are locked into roster spots on the A team each year that clearly don't belong.
Yea and I'm hoping the team gets more competitive with some needed changes. I I really don't think kids are locked into spots going forward. The organization wants this team to be the best it can be and if that means changes in certain positions then be it. It's been stated that the first lines are solid which is true but this team needs depth for second lines. Some kids that didn't get much time were put in on man down and I honestly don't think they stopped a man down goal all summer. It was pathetic actually.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
st summer the 2015 Express Orange team won the U15 nationals and a month later one of the two goalies (who is excellent and goes to St A's) did not make the team and played for the Blue team this year. so stop the BS, They want to win and are going to take the kids on the "A" team that will help them win. A second 2015 who played on the white team last summer made the orange team this summer and has already committed to a good D1 program. They take the top players on the "A" team if anything they take to many kids. If you want to make the top team in a grade level - play well in the tryout. kids will make the team on the field not on BOTC
That's not how it works with the 2017 express age group. Their are some players who are locked into roster spots on the A team each year that clearly don't belong.
That will change in 2 years, a few kids will get dropped from this team to the dismay of there parents. Prepare yourself!!!
two years?? better change sooner then that!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
st summer the 2015 Express Orange team won the U15 nationals and a month later one of the two goalies (who is excellent and goes to St A's) did not make the team and played for the Blue team this year. so stop the BS, They want to win and are going to take the kids on the "A" team that will help them win. A second 2015 who played on the white team last summer made the orange team this summer and has already committed to a good D1 program. They take the top players on the "A" team if anything they take to many kids. If you want to make the top team in a grade level - play well in the tryout. kids will make the team on the field not on BOTC
That's not how it works with the 2017 express age group. Their are some players who are locked into roster spots on the A team each year that clearly don't belong.
That will change in 2 years, a few kids will get dropped from this team to the dismay of there parents. Prepare yourself!!!
No tryouts announced yet?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is by invitation only for the A teams this year. Just kidding they are going to take our $125 dollars for the tryout fee and then kick us in the ba!!s for the $3000 tuition. You heard it hear first.
What about 2018-2020. Is A already predetermined or are spots open. Will any tryouts be for a B team which isnt decided on until June. Will going to the "clinic" this week give anyone a better shot at being recognized to have A abilities.
Express has clinics this week?
last summer the 2015 Express Orange team won the U15 nationals and a month later one of the two goalies (who is excellent and goes to St A's) did not make the team and played for the Blue team this year. so stop the BS, They want to win and are going to take the kids on the "A" team that will help them win. A second 2015 who played on the white team last summer made the orange team this summer and has already committed to a good D1 program. They take the top players on the "A" team if anything they take to many kids. If you want to make the top team in a grade level - play well in the tryout. kids will make the team on the field not on BOTC
Wow - what a statement about Express' inability to judge talent and the whole Express tryout chirade. There is nothing left to say other that a kid was so bad in the eyes of the Express that he was placed on the worst team one year but then committs to a D1 program the next. Bunch of buffooons!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is by invitation only for the A teams this year. Just kidding they are going to take our $125 dollars for the tryout fee and then kick us in the ba!!s for the $3000 tuition. You heard it hear first.
What about 2018-2020. Is A already predetermined or are spots open. Will any tryouts be for a B team which isnt decided on until June. Will going to the "clinic" this week give anyone a better shot at being recognized to have A abilities.
Express has clinics this week?
last summer the 2015 Express Orange team won the U15 nationals and a month later one of the two goalies (who is excellent and goes to St A's) did not make the team and played for the Blue team this year. so stop the BS, They want to win and are going to take the kids on the "A" team that will help them win. A second 2015 who played on the white team last summer made the orange team this summer and has already committed to a good D1 program. They take the top players on the "A" team if anything they take to many kids. If you want to make the top team in a grade level - play well in the tryout. kids will make the team on the field not on BOTC
Wow - what a statement about Express' inability to judge talent and the whole Express tryout chirade. There is nothing left to say other that a kid was so bad in the eyes of the Express that he was placed on the worst team one year but then committs to a D1 program the next. Bunch of buffooons!
Don't subject your kid to the randomness of this crap shoot. Unless of course you kid is going to St A's and his chances go up 10-fold. It's the biggest money making scam on the Island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is by invitation only for the A teams this year. Just kidding they are going to take our $125 dollars for the tryout fee and then kick us in the ba!!s for the $3000 tuition. You heard it hear first.
What about 2018-2020. Is A already predetermined or are spots open. Will any tryouts be for a B team which isnt decided on until June. Will going to the "clinic" this week give anyone a better shot at being recognized to have A abilities.
Express has clinics this week?
last summer the 2015 Express Orange team won the U15 nationals and a month later one of the two goalies (who is excellent and goes to St A's) did not make the team and played for the Blue team this year. so stop the BS, They want to win and are going to take the kids on the "A" team that will help them win. A second 2015 who played on the white team last summer made the orange team this summer and has already committed to a good D1 program. They take the top players on the "A" team if anything they take to many kids. If you want to make the top team in a grade level - play well in the tryout. kids will make the team on the field not on BOTC
Wow - what a statement about Express' inability to judge talent and the whole Express tryout chirade. There is nothing left to say other that a kid was so bad in the eyes of the Express that he was placed on the worst team one year but then committs to a D1 program the next. Bunch of buffooons!
Will be disappointing outcome for 98% of you. But go ahead and write the small mortgage check with the massive balloon payment soon to follow if you feel your are in the 2%.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
last summer the 2015 Express Orange team won the U15 nationals and a month later one of the two goalies (who is excellent and goes to St A's) did not make the team and played for the Blue team this year. so stop the BS, They want to win and are going to take the kids on the "A" team that will help them win. A second 2015 who played on the white team last summer made the orange team this summer and has already committed to a good D1 program. They take the top players on the "A" team if anything they take to many kids. If you want to make the top team in a grade level - play well in the tryout. kids will make the team on the field not on BOTC
Wow - what a statement about Express' inability to judge talent and the whole Express tryout chirade. There is nothing left to say other that a kid was so bad in the eyes of the Express that he was placed on the worst team one year but then committs to a D1 program the next. Bunch of buffooons! [/quote]
no matter what they do they are buffoons? if they keep the same kids every year the teams are locked and tryouts are a sham, if they make changes and kids improve year to year and a kid moves up then they are idiots for cutting him the year before............is it at all possible that the kid was an OK player had a bad tryout and made the white team and the next year he grew, vastly improved, had a great tryout and made the orange team? ...probably not possible, right?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
last summer the 2015 Express Orange team won the U15 nationals and a month later one of the two goalies (who is excellent and goes to St A's) did not make the team and played for the Blue team this year. so stop the BS, They want to win and are going to take the kids on the "A" team that will help them win. A second 2015 who played on the white team last summer made the orange team this summer and has already committed to a good D1 program. They take the top players on the "A" team if anything they take to many kids. If you want to make the top team in a grade level - play well in the tryout. kids will make the team on the field not on BOTC
Wow - what a statement about Express' inability to judge talent and the whole Express tryout chirade. There is nothing left to say other that a kid was so bad in the eyes of the Express that he was placed on the worst team one year but then committs to a D1 program the next. Bunch of buffooons!
no matter what they do they are buffoons? if they keep the same kids every year the teams are locked and tryouts are a sham, if they make changes and kids improve year to year and a kid moves up then they are idiots for cutting him the year before............is it at all possible that the kid was an OK player had a bad tryout and made the white team and the next year he grew, vastly improved, had a great tryout and made the orange team? ...probably not possible, right? [/quote]
Are you joking? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound trying to defend this? You and the Express belong with eachother. There's no excuse other than one of the worst examples of cronyism and a horrendous mis-judgement of talent that a new kid to the program got steamrolled by. 2nd team - yes, maybe but there is nothing that you can say that can excuse these buffoons from putting him on the third team. If you believe that a kid can go from a 3rd string team to a D1 commit in a year then I have a bridge to sell you and the Express. Please, it's simply horrible how they "evaluated" that kid initially and I'm shocked the parents put up with it and came back for more. Thankfully everything worked out fine despite the huge setback for a year. Are the rest of you willing to take that chance that your kid will be misjudged so horrendously? Ejoy the schenanigans, the lack of transparency and the outright ineptness of the "evaluation" money grab process.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
last summer the 2015 Express Orange team won the U15 nationals and a month later one of the two goalies (who is excellent and goes to St A's) did not make the team and played for the Blue team this year. so stop the BS, They want to win and are going to take the kids on the "A" team that will help them win. A second 2015 who played on the white team last summer made the orange team this summer and has already committed to a good D1 program. They take the top players on the "A" team if anything they take to many kids. If you want to make the top team in a grade level - play well in the tryout. kids will make the team on the field not on BOTC
Wow - what a statement about Express' inability to judge talent and the whole Express tryout chirade. There is nothing left to say other that a kid was so bad in the eyes of the Express that he was placed on the worst team one year but then committs to a D1 program the next. Bunch of buffooons!
no matter what they do they are buffoons? if they keep the same kids every year the teams are locked and tryouts are a sham, if they make changes and kids improve year to year and a kid moves up then they are idiots for cutting him the year before............is it at all possible that the kid was an OK player had a bad tryout and made the white team and the next year he grew, vastly improved, had a great tryout and made the orange team? ...probably not possible, right?
Are you joking? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound trying to defend this? You and the Express belong with eachother. There's no excuse other than one of the worst examples of cronyism and a horrendous mis-judgement of talent that a new kid to the program got steamrolled by. 2nd team - yes, maybe but there is nothing that you can say that can excuse these buffoons from putting him on the third team. If you believe that a kid can go from a 3rd string team to a D1 commit in a year then I have a bridge to sell you and the Express. Please, it's simply horrible how they "evaluated" that kid initially and I'm shocked the parents put up with it and came back for more. Thankfully everything worked out fine despite the huge setback for a year. Are the rest of you willing to take that chance that your kid will be misjudged so horrendously? Ejoy the schenanigans, the lack of transparency and the outright ineptness of the "evaluation" money grab process. [/quote]
Over time these clubs are toast anyway with so many high school and college coaches doing their own events.
In 2012 the kid had a bad tryout and was small, He did not deserve to make the Orange team, kid grew and developed and made the Orange team in 2013 and the coaches helped a lot in the recruiting. This is a success story for both the kid and the organization and should shut up the haters about how the tryouts are a sham, it is just the opposite - it was fair when he made the white team last year and it was fair when he made the orange team this year. If they kept the entire team that won the U15 nationals you would have said tryout was a money grab and no spots were available and when they did make roster changes and took new kids you say it is a sham because they should have kept the kid a year earlier even though he didn't deserve it because of how much better and bigger he was going to be.........shame on Express for not having a crystal ball.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In 2012 the kid had a bad tryout and was small, He did not deserve to make the Orange team, kid grew and developed and made the Orange team in 2013 and the coaches helped a lot in the recruiting. This is a success story for both the kid and the organization and should shut up the haters about how the tryouts are a sham, it is just the opposite - it was fair when he made the white team last year and it was fair when he made the orange team this year. If they kept the entire team that won the U15 nationals you would have said tryout was a money grab and no spots were available and when they did make roster changes and took new kids you say it is a sham because they should have kept the kid a year earlier even though he didn't deserve it because of how much better and bigger he was going to be.........shame on Express for not having a crystal ball.
If he was small and not a good player how was he so far ahead of the rest of the White team? He should have been at least placed on the 2nd team in 2012. The 2nd team was not a good team either - no standout offenseive players - and he could have had a significant impact. There's no defending this, it was a brutal way to spend $2,400 for no reason other than misjudgment and God knows what else goes on in making up these teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In 2012 the kid had a bad tryout and was small, He did not deserve to make the Orange team, kid grew and developed and made the Orange team in 2013 and the coaches helped a lot in the recruiting. This is a success story for both the kid and the organization and should shut up the haters about how the tryouts are a sham, it is just the opposite - it was fair when he made the white team last year and it was fair when he made the orange team this year. If they kept the entire team that won the U15 nationals you would have said tryout was a money grab and no spots were available and when they did make roster changes and took new kids you say it is a sham because they should have kept the kid a year earlier even though he didn't deserve it because of how much better and bigger he was going to be.........shame on Express for not having a crystal ball.
If he was small and not a good player how was he so far ahead of the rest of the White team? He should have been at least placed on the 2nd team in 2012. The 2nd team was not a good team either - no standout offenseive players - and he could have had a significant impact. There's no defending this, it was a brutal way to spend $2,400 for no reason other than misjudgment and God knows what else goes on in making up these teams.
Please tell us what you liked about his tryout in 2012 that you have determined that he deserved to make the blue team, also explain what you saw in the fall of 2011 when try outs took place that you knew he would be this good in 2013? Enlighten us to what nobody else could see
I am very confused here, your damned if you do damned if you don't.
A few things took place, most importantly the family and player stuck by Express. The boy has a D1 offer (I just hope it is at a good academic school). As you guys bash Express for not seeing talent, I see it as the player also stayed on and made the most of his chance when it came. He could have easily went to another club and who knows how it would've turned out.
I know for a fact Mike C does speak to folks of players on the cusp. Whether you call it being a salesman or guiding a family and playing (its your own interpretation) but the end result worked out. As many say it is a marathon not a sprint. Although at times it does seem to be a crazy dash!
Isn't that the story many look for. The only player who doesn't is the one who lost playing time.
If he was small and not a good player how was he so far ahead of the rest of the White team? He should have been at least placed on the 2nd team in 2012. The 2nd team was not a good team either - no standout offenseive players - and he could have had a significant impact. There's no defending this, it was a brutal way to spend $2,400 for no reason other than misjudgment and God knows what else goes on in making up these teams.
Please tell us what you liked about his tryout in 2012 that you have determined that he deserved to make the blue team, also explain what you saw in the fall of 2011 when try outs took place that you knew he would be this good in 2013? Enlighten us to what nobody else could see
A few things took place, most importantly the family and player stuck by Express. The boy has a D1 offer (I just hope it is at a good academic school). As you guys bash Express for not seeing talent, I see it as the player also stayed on and made the most of his chance when it came. He could have easily went to another club and who knows how it would've turned out.
I know for a fact Mike C does speak to folks of players on the cusp. Whether you call it being a salesman or guiding a family and playing (its your own interpretation) but the end result worked out. As many say it is a marathon not a sprint. Although at times it does seem to be a crazy dash!
Isn't that the story many look for. The only player who doesn't is the one who lost playing time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In 2012 the kid had a bad tryout and was small, He did not deserve to make the Orange team, kid grew and developed and made the Orange team in 2013 and the coaches helped a lot in the recruiting. This is a success story for both the kid and the organization and should shut up the haters about how the tryouts are a sham, it is just the opposite - it was fair when he made the white team last year and it was fair when he made the orange team this year. If they kept the entire team that won the U15 nationals you would have said tryout was a money grab and no spots were available and when they did make roster changes and took new kids you say it is a sham because they should have kept the kid a year earlier even though he didn't deserve it because of how much better and bigger he was going to be.........shame on Express for not having a crystal ball.
If he was small and not a good player how was he so far ahead of the rest of the White team? He should have been at least placed on the 2nd team in 2012. The 2nd team was not a good team either - no standout offenseive players - and he could have had a significant impact. There's no defending this, it was a brutal way to spend $2,400 for no reason other than misjudgment and God knows what else goes on in making up these teams.
Please tell us what you liked about his tryout in 2012 that you have determined that he deserved to make the blue team, also explain what you saw in the fall of 2011 when try outs took place that you knew he would be this good in 2013? Enlighten us to what nobody else could see
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In 2012 the kid had a bad tryout and was small, He did not deserve to make the Orange team, kid grew and developed and made the Orange team in 2013 and the coaches helped a lot in the recruiting. This is a success story for both the kid and the organization and should shut up the haters about how the tryouts are a sham, it is just the opposite - it was fair when he made the white team last year and it was fair when he made the orange team this year. If they kept the entire team that won the U15 nationals you would have said tryout was a money grab and no spots were available and when they did make roster changes and took new kids you say it is a sham because they should have kept the kid a year earlier even though he didn't deserve it because of how much better and bigger he was going to be.........shame on Express for not having a crystal ball.
If he was small and not a good player how was he so far ahead of the rest of the White team? He should have been at least placed on the 2nd team in 2012. The 2nd team was not a good team either - no standout offenseive players - and he could have had a significant impact. There's no defending this, it was a brutal way to spend $2,400 for no reason other than misjudgment and God knows what else goes on in making up these teams.
Please tell us what you liked about his tryout in 2012 that you have determined that he deserved to make the blue team, also explain what you saw in the fall of 2011 when try outs took place that you knew he would be this good in 2013? Enlighten us to what nobody else could see
Is Express blind to helpmet color and agnostic to wheter a kid goes to Catholic school or public school? Or, is it possible that the tie always goes to the Catholic school kid? Hope its the former and not the latter with the Express. No opinion, just askin' the question.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In 2012 the kid had a bad tryout and was small, He did not deserve to make the Orange team, kid grew and developed and made the Orange team in 2013 and the coaches helped a lot in the recruiting. This is a success story for both the kid and the organization and should shut up the haters about how the tryouts are a sham, it is just the opposite - it was fair when he made the white team last year and it was fair when he made the orange team this year. If they kept the entire team that won the U15 nationals you would have said tryout was a money grab and no spots were available and when they did make roster changes and took new kids you say it is a sham because they should have kept the kid a year earlier even though he didn't deserve it because of how much better and bigger he was going to be.........shame on Express for not having a crystal ball.
If he was small and not a good player how was he so far ahead of the rest of the White team? He should have been at least placed on the 2nd team in 2012. The 2nd team was not a good team either - no standout offenseive players - and he could have had a significant impact. There's no defending this, it was a brutal way to spend $2,400 for no reason other than misjudgment and God knows what else goes on in making up these teams.
Please tell us what you liked about his tryout in 2012 that you have determined that he deserved to make the blue team, also explain what you saw in the fall of 2011 when try outs took place that you knew he would be this good in 2013? Enlighten us to what nobody else could see
Is Express blind to helpmet color and agnostic to wheter a kid goes to Catholic school or public school? Or, is it possible that the tie always goes to the Catholic school kid? Hope its the former and not the latter with the Express. No opinion, just askin' the question.
Possible this obvservation (or question?) clounded the Express judgement initially until it became such an agregiously obivious mistake that they couldn't avoid having to correct it. Buyer beware.
Come on Express post your tryout dates!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In 2012 the kid had a bad tryout and was small, He did not deserve to make the Orange team, kid grew and developed and made the Orange team in 2013 and the coaches helped a lot in the recruiting. This is a success story for both the kid and the organization and should shut up the haters about how the tryouts are a sham, it is just the opposite - it was fair when he made the white team last year and it was fair when he made the orange team this year. If they kept the entire team that won the U15 nationals you would have said tryout was a money grab and no spots were available and when they did make roster changes and took new kids you say it is a sham because they should have kept the kid a year earlier even though he didn't deserve it because of how much better and bigger he was going to be.........shame on Express for not having a crystal ball.
If he was small and not a good player how was he so far ahead of the rest of the White team? He should have been at least placed on the 2nd team in 2012. The 2nd team was not a good team either - no standout offenseive players - and he could have had a significant impact. There's no defending this, it was a brutal way to spend $2,400 for no reason other than misjudgment and God knows what else goes on in making up these teams.
Please tell us what you liked about his tryout in 2012 that you have determined that he deserved to make the blue team, also explain what you saw in the fall of 2011 when try outs took place that you knew he would be this good in 2013? Enlighten us to what nobody else could see
Is Express blind to helpmet color and agnostic to wheter a kid goes to Catholic school or public school? Or, is it possible that the tie always goes to the Catholic school kid? Hope its the former and not the latter with the Express. No opinion, just askin' the question.
Possible this obvservation (or question?) clounded the Express judgement initially until it became such an agregiously obivious mistake that they couldn't avoid having to correct it. Buyer beware.
2015 Orange cut a long time express goalie who goes to St. Anthony's and kept the goalie who's last name would assure that he would not have enrolled in a parochial high school - just sayin'
each other is two words.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
each other is two words.
Each other ARE two words Helpmet & clounded are not words period.
Now that the summer tournament season is over, any reflective thoughts about whether the Express B and C teams were worth the $2,400? There is a rumor that it will approach $3,000 this time around but I don't think anyone has confirmation of that yet. Specifically, I'm interested in the recruiting value/exposure of those B and C team experiences. I have a 2017 son and thinking about switching from another program where he is not likely to get much exposure but not sure he'll make the Express "A" team even though he's a "starter" wherever he plays. In the event that he doesn't make the "A", I'm trying to look ahead a year or two and see if its still worth moving him. In particular, I'd like to hear from the current 2016 and 2015 Express B and C team parents as to whether you thought the $2,400 price was equal/better/below the perceived value for you sons. I'm less interested in hearing about coaches, training etc...to me that is a given for this program. I'm more interested hearing about exposure to college coaches, playing in high profile tournaments etc. What did you think of the schedule and the competition? Thanks.
My son is dumb as rocks, I am behind in my house payments but we are very confident he will get some money from a d2 school where you only need an 800 on the sat to get in. Definitly worth the investment.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now that the summer tournament season is over, any reflective thoughts about whether the Express B and C teams were worth the $2,400? There is a rumor that it will approach $3,000 this time around but I don't think anyone has confirmation of that yet. Specifically, I'm interested in the recruiting value/exposure of those B and C team experiences. I have a 2017 son and thinking about switching from another program where he is not likely to get much exposure but not sure he'll make the Express "A" team even though he's a "starter" wherever he plays. In the event that he doesn't make the "A", I'm trying to look ahead a year or two and see if its still worth moving him. In particular, I'd like to hear from the current 2016 and 2015 Express B and C team parents as to whether you thought the $2,400 price was equal/better/below the perceived value for you sons. I'm less interested in hearing about coaches, training etc...to me that is a given for this program. I'm more interested hearing about exposure to college coaches, playing in high profile tournaments etc. What did you think of the schedule and the competition? Thanks.
Express doesn't put the B and C teams in top tournaments. They play lesser tournaments so they have a chance to win and they can advertise it on the website.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now that the summer tournament season is over, any reflective thoughts about whether the Express B and C teams were worth the $2,400? There is a rumor that it will approach $3,000 this time around but I don't think anyone has confirmation of that yet. Specifically, I'm interested in the recruiting value/exposure of those B and C team experiences. I have a 2017 son and thinking about switching from another program where he is not likely to get much exposure but not sure he'll make the Express "A" team even though he's a "starter" wherever he plays. In the event that he doesn't make the "A", I'm trying to look ahead a year or two and see if its still worth moving him. In particular, I'd like to hear from the current 2016 and 2015 Express B and C team parents as to whether you thought the $2,400 price was equal/better/below the perceived value for you sons. I'm less interested in hearing about coaches, training etc...to me that is a given for this program. I'm more interested hearing about exposure to college coaches, playing in high profile tournaments etc. What did you think of the schedule and the competition? Thanks.
If he's a starter at another program and they do decent tournaments, stay there. The recruiting process is what you make of it. Target the schools he's interested and focus on getting them to his games. Start sooner rather than later. Good luck!
It is always better to be in A team than a B or C. The brand doesn't matter to college coaches. Only the quality if player and competition. Express A team can hold their own with anyone. B /C teams play in less competitive tournaments. If your kid is a "starter" elsewhere he is probably better staying put.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now that the summer tournament season is over, any reflective thoughts about whether the Express B and C teams were worth the $2,400? There is a rumor that it will approach $3,000 this time around but I don't think anyone has confirmation of that yet. Specifically, I'm interested in the recruiting value/exposure of those B and C team experiences. I have a 2017 son and thinking about switching from another program where he is not likely to get much exposure but not sure he'll make the Express "A" team even though he's a "starter" wherever he plays. In the event that he doesn't make the "A", I'm trying to look ahead a year or two and see if its still worth moving him. In particular, I'd like to hear from the current 2016 and 2015 Express B and C team parents as to whether you thought the $2,400 price was equal/better/below the perceived value for you sons. I'm less interested in hearing about coaches, training etc...to me that is a given for this program. I'm more interested hearing about exposure to college coaches, playing in high profile tournaments etc. What did you think of the schedule and the competition? Thanks.
Bottom line question - would you do a B or C team again during the prime recruiting years if the price tag approached $3,000? On a scale of 1-10 what was the recruiting value/experience for the 2015 and 2016 B & C teams? Would just doing targeted recruiting events (college specific prospect days, Jake Reed etc..) be better bang for the recruiting buck or was there some recruiting benefit to the Express B/C experience that one should be aware of? Did you feel like your kid got no exposure, modest exposure or terrific exposure to college coaches while playing for the Express B/C? Please, thoughtful answers only - looking for real informaion to help us decide allocation of limited financial resources. If we spent this money on Express it probably means we wouldn't do nearly as many college specific prospect days, Jake Reed etc. Any thoughts much appreciated. Thanks.
Put your limited resources toward College days and showcases. No club can offer that exposure. Remember these club tournaments the exposure is fleeting and your son may not even be in the game when certain schools are watching. Years ago when there was not that's my exposure opportunities the clubs made a lot if sense. Today they have value but it is not as great as years ago.
The recruiting experience is a function if what you put into it. Being in a B/C team does you no good. We got no help from the club beyond the bare minimum . They only help the best players who ironically don't need the help
We just went through it with and every case is different, will your current club be able to get him into Jake Reed or Maverik Showtime? because no way Express is giving up one of those spots to a new player unless it was/is per-negotiated. Can you discuss this decision with your HS coach, that could be a huge help in making this decision, and lastly try to talk to older kids in your program and see how the program was for them. Lots of kids still getting D1 spots that never played travel only camps and their town summer team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now that the summer tournament season is over, any reflective thoughts about whether the Express B and C teams were worth the $2,400? There is a rumor that it will approach $3,000 this time around but I don't think anyone has confirmation of that yet. Specifically, I'm interested in the recruiting value/exposure of those B and C team experiences. I have a 2017 son and thinking about switching from another program where he is not likely to get much exposure but not sure he'll make the Express "A" team even though he's a "starter" wherever he plays. In the event that he doesn't make the "A", I'm trying to look ahead a year or two and see if its still worth moving him. In particular, I'd like to hear from the current 2016 and 2015 Express B and C team parents as to whether you thought the $2,400 price was equal/better/below the perceived value for you sons. I'm less interested in hearing about coaches, training etc...to me that is a given for this program. I'm more interested hearing about exposure to college coaches, playing in high profile tournaments etc. What did you think of the schedule and the competition? Thanks.
Bottom line question - would you do a B or C team again during the prime recruiting years if the price tag approached $3,000? On a scale of 1-10 what was the recruiting value/experience for the 2015 and 2016 B & C teams? Would just doing targeted recruiting events (college specific prospect days, Jake Reed etc..) be better bang for the recruiting buck or was there some recruiting benefit to the Express B/C experience that one should be aware of? Did you feel like your kid got no exposure, modest exposure or terrific exposure to college coaches while playing for the Express B/C? Please, thoughtful answers only - looking for real informaion to help us decide allocation of limited financial resources. If we spent this money on Express it probably means we wouldn't do nearly as many college specific prospect days, Jake Reed etc. Any thoughts much appreciated. Thanks.
The kids don't get to choose to go to jake reed. There is a vetting process.
If ur son is starting and has shown improvement and likes his friends there; why not try then to make the A squad? Try outs are where he can shine.
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Cage - I love you and your site but I do disagree with this policy, I appreciate you are making a living and this is a business but the tryout dates are the single most important info we can get from this site and it seems like there should be some way of allowing it as part of a discussion without allowing full fledged advertising.
Information is what drives most of us to this awesome site
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cage - I love you and your site but I do disagree with this policy, I appreciate you are making a living and this is a business but the tryout dates are the single most important info we can get from this site and it seems like there should be some way of allowing it as part of a discussion without allowing full fledged advertising.
Information is what drives most of us to this awesome site
Information is what drives most of us to this awesome site
- Clubs that advertise free tryouts can post here on BOTC. See the Hitmen tryouts on the Tryouts Forum. (You are aware that this is how the True Blue club started, right?) Clubs that do NOT charge the community are free for you to see. So while you disagree with the policy, ask yourself who is advocating for the lacrosse community at that point? You will quickly see that BOTC is supporting the community.
- Search all of the clubs on the right side of our display manually and pull information that suits your needs. Ironically, if you go to before November 2010 when we launched, most readers would not have had a clue on their options. Furthermore, second and third grade developmental programs have begun to emerge thanks to BOTC placements.
Whether you agree or disagree does not matter - you are anonymous and it is our advertisers who have stepped up to the plate to support the forum. You hit the nail on the head when you said that BOTC is a business - the clubs are a business also. Why is BOTC expected to provide free services when the clubs themselves do not? Are you pressuring your local club to lower tryout fees?
Write me a private note at cagesage@backofthecage.com and we can discuss your objections further.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now that the summer tournament season is over, any reflective thoughts about whether the Express B and C teams were worth the $2,400? There is a rumor that it will approach $3,000 this time around but I don't think anyone has confirmation of that yet. Specifically, I'm interested in the recruiting value/exposure of those B and C team experiences. I have a 2017 son and thinking about switching from another program where he is not likely to get much exposure but not sure he'll make the Express "A" team even though he's a "starter" wherever he plays. In the event that he doesn't make the "A", I'm trying to look ahead a year or two and see if its still worth moving him. In particular, I'd like to hear from the current 2016 and 2015 Express B and C team parents as to whether you thought the $2,400 price was equal/better/below the perceived value for you sons. I'm less interested in hearing about coaches, training etc...to me that is a given for this program. I'm more interested hearing about exposure to college coaches, playing in high profile tournaments etc. What did you think of the schedule and the competition? Thanks.
Bottom line question - would you do a B or C team again during the prime recruiting years if the price tag approached $3,000? On a scale of 1-10 what was the recruiting value/experience for the 2015 and 2016 B & C teams? Would just doing targeted recruiting events (college specific prospect days, Jake Reed etc..) be better bang for the recruiting buck or was there some recruiting benefit to the Express B/C experience that one should be aware of? Did you feel like your kid got no exposure, modest exposure or terrific exposure to college coaches while playing for the Express B/C? Please, thoughtful answers only - looking for real informaion to help us decide allocation of limited financial resources. If we spent this money on Express it probably means we wouldn't do nearly as many college specific prospect days, Jake Reed etc. Any thoughts much appreciated. Thanks.
The kids don't get to choose to go to jake reed. There is a vetting process.
If ur son is starting and has shown improvement and likes his friends there; why not try then to make the A squad? Try outs are where he can shine.
Channy charging 100 for tryouts,not worth your money.
Good waste anyones time trying out got to another club and leave those of ud that are happy alone
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good waste anyones time trying out got to another club and leave those of ud that are happy alone
Huh? Me Caveman, me type with feet and no brain.
That a post after tipping back a few red solo cups? Im with you bro, I understood your point.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good waste anyones time trying out got to another club and leave those of ud that are happy alone
For those of you that do not speak Sylvester Stallone fluently I will try to decipher.....
It was less than a pleasure to hear you recently opine the value of the Long Island Express tryout fees, please do not waste the time of the coaches and the evaluators as well as the other players that do want to play on the Express by going to a tryout for a team and organization you have no desire to play for. Please do not make disparaging comments about the team and organization that many of us enjoy being a part of.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good waste anyones time trying out got to another club and leave those of ud that are happy alone
Huh? Me Caveman, me type with feet and no brain.
"Tatted up" blue collar, muscle Ts, red Solos, Suffolk, East Nassau and South Shore foreva "bro". Love it or leave it. Try hoity toity Nassau North Shore (fl$) if you don't feel comfortable typing with your feet.
Ditto
When you register to try-out, do you attend both days or is the 2nd day a callback?
Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you register to try-out, do you attend both days or is the 2nd day a callback?
Both Days...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
thank you for this insight, haven't heard anything like this before, sounds like a bad deal by very mean men
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
thank you for this insight, haven't heard anything like this before, sounds like a bad deal by very mean men
FYI...you do not try out for the Turtles. They pick what players they want to be on the team. Express tryouts are for only Express Players. "Very mean men"...really??? Remember this is a business...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
thank you for this insight, haven't heard anything like this before, sounds like a bad deal by very mean men
Sounds like your son should not tryout for express for 2 reasons
1. Needs some more skills
2. You already have a chip on your shoulder and have turtle envy
Seriously, bashing those whom like the organization and these incredibly talented kids on lie is getting old. You need to concentrate on your own child(ren) and hope they find a spot where they will reach their goals.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
thank you for this insight, haven't heard anything like this before, sounds like a bad deal by very mean men
FYI...you do not try out for the Turtles. They pick what players they want to be on the team. Express tryouts are for only Express Players. "Very mean men"...really??? Remember this is a business...
The Turtles were at the tryouts the past few years & the poster is correct in his assessment of the tryout for Express
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
thank you for this insight, haven't heard anything like this before, sounds like a bad deal by very mean men
Sounds like your son should not tryout for express for 2 reasons
1. Needs some more skills
2. You already have a chip on your shoulder and have turtle envy
Seriously, bashing those whom like the organization and these incredibly talented kids on lie is getting old. You need to concentrate on your own child(ren) and hope they find a spot where they will reach their goals.
Wow, I guess your reading comprehension skills are not very good. The original poster did not in any way bash the Turtle kids or any other kids. He was simply and accurately I might say how the Express tryouts are run. He also pointed out correctly how if your kid is not a private school "superstar" then the Express is not for you, Straight up $100 money grab. Sorry to break the news to you but the lacrosse world does not revolve around the Turtles or the Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
thank you for this insight, haven't heard anything like this before, sounds like a bad deal by very mean men
FYI...you do not try out for the Turtles. They pick what players they want to be on the team. Express tryouts are for only Express Players. "Very mean men"...really??? Remember this is a business...
post #1 - blah - blah - blah express sucks
post #2 - sarcasm - too subtle for some
post #3 - stupidity
you kids never cease to amaze
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
thank you for this insight, haven't heard anything like this before, sounds like a bad deal by very mean men
Sounds like your son should not tryout for express for 2 reasons
1. Needs some more skills
2. You already have a chip on your shoulder and have turtle envy
Seriously, bashing those whom like the organization and these incredibly talented kids on lie is getting old. You need to concentrate on your own child(ren) and hope they find a spot where they will reach their goals.
Wow, I guess your reading comprehension skills are not very good. The original poster did not in any way bash the Turtle kids or any other kids. He was simply and accurately I might say how the Express tryouts are run. He also pointed out correctly how if your kid is not a private school "superstar" then the Express is not for you, Straight up $100 money grab. Sorry to break the news to you but the lacrosse world does not revolve around the Turtles or the Express.
Who said that it did????
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
thank you for this insight, haven't heard anything like this before, sounds like a bad deal by very mean men
FYI...you do not try out for the Turtles. They pick what players they want to be on the team. Express tryouts are for only Express Players. "Very mean men"...really??? Remember this is a business...
I am confused. Please honest answers from people that know first hand not what they heard. My son is a very good 2021 player. He has been asked to tryout by several teams and a couple elite. No contact yet with Express. Will he get a fair tryout or will he be sitting on the sidelines? He has no desire to attend private school. Will this hurt his chances to remain on the team or playing time if he makes it?
Mine plays on Express 2018 and will not be attending private school. I have watched try-outs for three years at this age group and I have always known try-out to be run very well. Most of the time is drills and then a scrimage at the end.
At least for this age group, there are ussually more than 100 kids trying out and they are all getting two quality practices. I do agree that it is hard for a new kid to break through unless he simply has a great tryout and the coaches happen to see him at the right time.
But for the $100, you get to see where your kid is compared to the others...
At least for this age group, there are ussually more than 100 kids trying out and they are all getting two quality practices. I do agree that it is hard for a new kid to break through unless he simply has a great tryout and the coaches happen to see him at the right time.
But for the $100, you get to see where your kid is compared to the others...
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Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
thank you for this insight, haven't heard anything like this before, sounds like a bad deal by very mean men
FYI...you do not try out for the Turtles. They pick what players they want to be on the team. Express tryouts are for only Express Players. "Very mean men"...really??? Remember this is a business...
I am confused. Please honest answers from people that know first hand not what they heard. My son is a very good 2021 player. He has been asked to tryout by several teams and a couple elite. No contact yet with Express. Will he get a fair tryout or will he be sitting on the sidelines? He has no desire to attend private school. Will this hurt his chances to remain on the team or playing time if he makes it?
STAY AWAY. Its a lot of money, they carry a big roster. The coaches kids play ALL game while other kids barely get on the field. There are a lot of other clubs licking their chops because Express is losing a bunch of really really good players.
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Mine plays on Express 2018 and will not be attending private school. I have watched try-outs for three years at this age group and I have always known try-out to be run very well. Most of the time is drills and then a scrimage at the end.
At least for this age group, there are ussually more than 100 kids trying out and they are all getting two quality practices. I do agree that it is hard for a new kid to break through unless he simply has a great tryout and the coaches happen to see him at the right time.
But for the $100, you get to see where your kid is compared to the others...
At least for this age group, there are ussually more than 100 kids trying out and they are all getting two quality practices. I do agree that it is hard for a new kid to break through unless he simply has a great tryout and the coaches happen to see him at the right time.
But for the $100, you get to see where your kid is compared to the others...
Also a 2018 parent and agree with the above except that it is possible to make the team as a new player, the 2018 Orange is a pretty good team yet had around 5 new players make the team at last years tryouts, and 2 of the kids where new to travel lacrosse and unknown to the coaches
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
thank you for this insight, haven't heard anything like this before, sounds like a bad deal by very mean men
FYI...you do not try out for the Turtles. They pick what players they want to be on the team. Express tryouts are for only Express Players. "Very mean men"...really??? Remember this is a business...
I am confused. Please honest answers from people that know first hand not what they heard. My son is a very good 2021 player. He has been asked to tryout by several teams and a couple elite. No contact yet with Express. Will he get a fair tryout or will he be sitting on the sidelines? He has no desire to attend private school. Will this hurt his chances to remain on the team or playing time if he makes it?
STAY AWAY. Its a lot of money, they carry a big roster. The coaches kids play ALL game while other kids barely get on the field. There are a lot of other clubs licking their chops because Express is losing a bunch of really really good players.
FIRST, stay away from the 'stay away' comment. Misinformed.
SECOND, call the Express organization and ask.
THIRD...my son made the 2021 Wolverine team last year as a new player...with no 'connections' and as a public school student, like many of the other players.
FOURTH, the tryouts were very fair, and we expect the same this year. The boys went thru many drills and game situations. Everyone got a fair look by multiple evaluators who continually walked up and down the field taking notes. Boys for the most part were busy, and there were short lines on many drills.
Hope that helps...honest and forthright...and perhaps we'll meet in the future!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
thank you for this insight, haven't heard anything like this before, sounds like a bad deal by very mean men
FYI...you do not try out for the Turtles. They pick what players they want to be on the team. Express tryouts are for only Express Players. "Very mean men"...really??? Remember this is a business...
I am confused. Please honest answers from people that know first hand not what they heard. My son is a very good 2021 player. He has been asked to tryout by several teams and a couple elite. No contact yet with Express. Will he get a fair tryout or will he be sitting on the sidelines? He has no desire to attend private school. Will this hurt his chances to remain on the team or playing time if he makes it?
STAY AWAY. Its a lot of money, they carry a big roster. The coaches kids play ALL game while other kids barely get on the field. There are a lot of other clubs licking their chops because Express is losing a bunch of really really good players.
FIRST, stay away from the 'stay away' comment. Misinformed.
SECOND, call the Express organization and ask.
THIRD...my son made the 2021 Wolverine team last year as a new player...with no 'connections' and as a public school student, like many of the other players.
FOURTH, the tryouts were very fair, and we expect the same this year. The boys went thru many drills and game situations. Everyone got a fair look by multiple evaluators who continually walked up and down the field taking notes. Boys for the most part were busy, and there were short lines on many drills.
Hope that helps...honest and forthright...and perhaps we'll meet in the future!
Just an FYIWhen they talk about private schools, they are talking about The Catholic High Schools, not any elementary private schools..
How is the 2020 team? We never hear about this year. Competitive in the A division? How are the coaches and are spots available?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will never try out again with the Express. Here were the lowlights. $125 for two days of watching a Turtle Exhibition. 10 minutes of playing time for new kids. Seeing parents of kids potentially going to St Anthony's and Chaminade "working" the coaches. If your child is a superstar and going to private this is the place for you. If your child has potential, but needs developing, good luck.
thank you for this insight, haven't heard anything like this before, sounds like a bad deal by very mean men
FYI...you do not try out for the Turtles. They pick what players they want to be on the team. Express tryouts are for only Express Players. "Very mean men"...really??? Remember this is a business...
I am confused. Please honest answers from people that know first hand not what they heard. My son is a very good 2021 player. He has been asked to tryout by several teams and a couple elite. No contact yet with Express. Will he get a fair tryout or will he be sitting on the sidelines? He has no desire to attend private school. Will this hurt his chances to remain on the team or playing time if he makes it?
STAY AWAY. Its a lot of money, they carry a big roster. The coaches kids play ALL game while other kids barely get on the field. There are a lot of other clubs licking their chops because Express is losing a bunch of really really good players.
FIRST, stay away from the 'stay away' comment. Misinformed.
SECOND, call the Express organization and ask.
THIRD...my son made the 2021 Wolverine team last year as a new player...with no 'connections' and as a public school student, like many of the other players.
FOURTH, the tryouts were very fair, and we expect the same this year. The boys went thru many drills and game situations. Everyone got a fair look by multiple evaluators who continually walked up and down the field taking notes. Boys for the most part were busy, and there were short lines on many drills.
Hope that helps...honest and forthright...and perhaps we'll meet in the future!
I agree with your assessment of the Express try outs.
How many players were rostered on the 2021 Wolverines? I believe that is what the "stay away" comment was addressing.
My so played for Express for one season 2 years ago. I was generally very happy with the organization. My son easily made the blue team (2nd best?) He was one of the best players on the team and stared every game. I'm sure he could have continued and excelled in this organization. The issue became the price. If you can afford, its great. With other kids, we found another organization that is half the price. We are very happy there as well. As for the Catholic school thing, I think it may be somewhat true, I know many kids that play for Express. If it comes down to two kids of equal talent, they will probably take the Catholic kid, however if you kid is clearly better, no need to worry.
I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
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My so played for Express for one season 2 years ago. I was generally very happy with the organization. My son easily made the blue team (2nd best?) He was one of the best players on the team and stared every game. I'm sure he could have continued and excelled in this organization. The issue became the price. If you can afford, its great. With other kids, we found another organization that is half the price. We are very happy there as well. As for the Catholic school thing, I think it may be somewhat true, I know many kids that play for Express. If it comes down to two kids of equal talent, they will probably take the Catholic kid, however if you kid is clearly better, no need to worry.
The Catholic school thing only begins to pollute the evaluation process if you indicate that your kid is not interetested in ever going to Catholic school. So, until about 8th grade the issue should not factor in to the evaluation process but beware that this is always an undercurrent with the Express. Try faking that your son might be interested in transfering to Catholic school even if he really isn't. That might buy you some more time with the best team. But once its clear that your son isn't enrolling, watch out. It's definately possible that a public school kid could still play on the best Express team in the higher grades but I agree with the above post that with two equal kids, the tie will always go to the Catholic school kid. This is a private organization and they can pick and chose kids however they see fit on any on/off field evaluation critera they choose. There will always be the lemmings that will continue to follow the flock and stare blindly into the light as they go to slaughter - don't be a lemming.
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I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Tenacious Turtles are a team that is under the LI Express organization umbrella as their A team for the 2017 age group. They don't have tryouts for this team it's invitation only and almost the entire team has been together for the last 4 years. The owner of Lacrosse Unlimited runs the team and his son is on it.
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I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Turtles are a team that is assocoated with the Long Island Express. They are a 2017 team that always plays up. Probably one of the best teams for their age group in the country. You get asked to play for them. There are no tryouts. They have their own web site: http://turtleslax.com/
They are amazing to watch...
Turtles are the best team in the country at the 2017 grade for sure just like the 91 Xtreme (www.91xtreme.com) are the best 7th grade team in the country. also amazing to watch.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Turtles are a team that is assocoated with the Long Island Express. They are a 2017 team that always plays up. Probably one of the best teams for their age group in the country. You get asked to play for them. There are no tryouts. They have their own web site: http://turtleslax.com/
They are amazing to watch...
If they are so great how come the first 2017 to commit isn't from the turtles? And didn't the greatest team in the world just lose to Dukes 2017 last month?
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Turtles are the best team in the country at the 2017 grade for sure just like the 91 Xtreme (www.91xtreme.com) are the best 7th grade team in the country. also amazing to watch.
If 91extreme is the best team in the country and lost to the express terps one most wonder if the terps are the best team in the universe but they lost to the crabs so the crabs must be the best team in the galaxy........or, maybe they are all just good teams,
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Turtles are a team that is assocoated with the Long Island Express. They are a 2017 team that always plays up. Probably one of the best teams for their age group in the country. You get asked to play for them. There are no tryouts. They have their own web site: http://turtleslax.com/
They are amazing to watch...
If they are so great how come the first 2017 to commit isn't from the turtles? And didn't the greatest team in the world just lose to Dukes 2017 last month?
Actually, the "greatest" team in the world hasn't won much lately. All good things do come to an end!
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How is the 2020 team? We never hear about this year. Competitive in the A division? How are the coaches and are spots available?
There top 2020 team is very good. I doubt there are many (if any) available spots to make that team.
There is no way that I would have a kid play on their "B" and "C" teams anymore. You will paying around $3,000 to be on a team that is just formed for them to make money.
If your kid can make the top team of one the other reputable groups and be with a solid coach, you are much better off. It will also cost you less than half.
Any given Sunday! (Or Saturday, sometimes Friday night.)
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I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Tenacious Turtles are a team that is under the LI Express organization umbrella as their A team for the 2017 age group. They don't have tryouts for this team it's invitation only and almost the entire team has been together for the last 4 years. The owner of Lacrosse Unlimited runs the team and his son is on it.
Does anybody really know what the relationship is between the turtles and the Express? What does the Express get out of "the relationship" and what do the Turtles get out of it?
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How is the 2020 team? We never hear about this year. Competitive in the A division? How are the coaches and are spots available?
There top 2020 team is very good. I doubt there are many (if any) available spots to make that team.
There is no way that I would have a kid play on their "B" and "C" teams anymore. You will paying around $3,000 to be on a team that is just formed for them to make money.
If your kid can make the top team of one the other reputable groups and be with a solid coach, you are much better off. It will also cost you less than half.
The 2020 team is ok. All the coaches kids (3) play ALL the time. They try to play in tournaments they know they can win. Truth is 2020 91 (Crush) blows them away. Not even a contest. I don't even like team 91, but the truth can't be denied!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Tenacious Turtles are a team that is under the LI Express organization umbrella as their A team for the 2017 age group. They don't have tryouts for this team it's invitation only and almost the entire team has been together for the last 4 years. The owner of Lacrosse Unlimited runs the team and his son is on it.
Does anybody really know what the relationship is between the turtles and the Express? What does the Express get out of "the relationship" and what do the Turtles get out of it?
Turtles are a hand picked team associated with LIE. 2017 age group. Supposed to be the best of the best for that age group. No expense has been sparred for their training. Truth is they had a great run, but are having a little trouble maintaining their elite title, not bringing in the tournament wins they enjoyed in the past. As this group of boys enters their HS years now, it will be interesting to see what happens to them. Some really good players there, but then again there are a lot of really good plays that don't play for the turtles as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Tenacious Turtles are a team that is under the LI Express organization umbrella as their A team for the 2017 age group. They don't have tryouts for this team it's invitation only and almost the entire team has been together for the last 4 years. The owner of Lacrosse Unlimited runs the team and his son is on it.
Does anybody really know what the relationship is between the turtles and the Express? What does the Express get out of "the relationship" and what do the Turtles get out of it?
Turtles are a hand picked team associated with LIE. 2017 age group. Supposed to be the best of the best for that age group. No expense has been sparred for their training. Truth is they had a great run, but are having a little trouble maintaining their elite title, not bringing in the tournament wins they enjoyed in the past. As this group of boys enters their HS years now, it will be interesting to see what happens to them. Some really good players there, but then again there are a lot of really good plays that don't play for the turtles as well.
Still doesn't explain exactly what the relationship is between the Express and Turtles. Turtles seem to function completely seperately from the rest of the Express. Do they even show up to the Express organizational meeting that all other express teams attend to pay, be fitted for uniforms, be told what the tournament schedule is etc...? I'd really like somebody to explain what the association is. Just curious but it seems odd. I really don't see the benefit for either party and why the Turtles seem to operate independently unlike any other express team in any other grade if they really are part of the Express. What's the deal?
Great info on the 2021 teams thanks...Which team is the better team and how is the second team..Also who coaches these teams and if they have kids on the team what posision are they...Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Tenacious Turtles are a team that is under the LI Express organization umbrella as their A team for the 2017 age group. They don't have tryouts for this team it's invitation only and almost the entire team has been together for the last 4 years. The owner of Lacrosse Unlimited runs the team and his son is on it.
Does anybody really know what the relationship is between the turtles and the Express? What does the Express get out of "the relationship" and what do the Turtles get out of it?
Turtles are a hand picked team associated with LIE. 2017 age group. Supposed to be the best of the best for that age group. No expense has been sparred for their training. Truth is they had a great run, but are having a little trouble maintaining their elite title, not bringing in the tournament wins they enjoyed in the past. As this group of boys enters their HS years now, it will be interesting to see what happens to them. Some really good players there, but then again there are a lot of really good plays that don't play for the turtles as well.
Still doesn't explain exactly what the relationship is between the Express and Turtles. Turtles seem to function completely seperately from the rest of the Express. Do they even show up to the Express organizational meeting that all other express teams attend to pay, be fitted for uniforms, be told what the tournament schedule is etc...? I'd really like somebody to explain what the association is. Just curious but it seems odd. I really don't see the benefit for either party and why the Turtles seem to operate independently unlike any other express team in any other grade if they really are part of the Express. What's the deal?
Why do you care?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Turtles are a team that is assocoated with the Long Island Express. They are a 2017 team that always plays up. Probably one of the best teams for their age group in the country. You get asked to play for them. There are no tryouts. They have their own web site: http://turtleslax.com/
They are amazing to watch...
If they are so great how come the first 2017 to commit isn't from the turtles? And didn't the greatest team in the world just lose to Dukes 2017 last month?
There's been a 2017 commit? Who and from where? Please back up your statement with facts.
will their ever being a second turtles team or once the 17's are done so are turtles?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Tenacious Turtles are a team that is under the LI Express organization umbrella as their A team for the 2017 age group. They don't have tryouts for this team it's invitation only and almost the entire team has been together for the last 4 years. The owner of Lacrosse Unlimited runs the team and his son is on it.
Does anybody really know what the relationship is between the turtles and the Express? What does the Express get out of "the relationship" and what do the Turtles get out of it?
Turtles are a hand picked team associated with LIE. 2017 age group. Supposed to be the best of the best for that age group. No expense has been sparred for their training. Truth is they had a great run, but are having a little trouble maintaining their elite title, not bringing in the tournament wins they enjoyed in the past. As this group of boys enters their HS years now, it will be interesting to see what happens to them. Some really good players there, but then again there are a lot of really good plays that don't play for the turtles as well.
Still doesn't explain exactly what the relationship is between the Express and Turtles. Turtles seem to function completely seperately from the rest of the Express. Do they even show up to the Express organizational meeting that all other express teams attend to pay, be fitted for uniforms, be told what the tournament schedule is etc...? I'd really like somebody to explain what the association is. Just curious but it seems odd. I really don't see the benefit for either party and why the Turtles seem to operate independently unlike any other express team in any other grade if they really are part of the Express. What's the deal?
Why do you care so much. I think the question has been answered like 5 times on this thread...move on to the 91 website...
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles are the best team in the country at the 2017 grade for sure just like the 91 Xtreme (www.91xtreme.com) are the best 7th grade team in the country. also amazing to watch.
If 91extreme is the best team in the country and lost to the express terps one most wonder if the terps are the best team in the universe but they lost to the crabs so the crabs must be the best team in the galaxy........or, maybe they are all just good teams,
91 Extreme beat Express Terps 2 out of the 3 times they played this year and was 2-0 against the Crabs. They are each good teams, but 91 Extreme gets the nod for Spring/Summer 2013 - they have the better body of work: head to head record, overall record and number of tournaments won.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles are the best team in the country at the 2017 grade for sure just like the 91 Xtreme (www.91xtreme.com) are the best 7th grade team in the country. also amazing to watch.
If 91extreme is the best team in the country and lost to the express terps one most wonder if the terps are the best team in the universe but they lost to the crabs so the crabs must be the best team in the galaxy........or, maybe they are all just good teams,
91 Extreme beat Express Terps 2 out of the 3 times they played this year and was 2-0 against the Crabs. They are each good teams, but 91 Extreme gets the nod for Spring/Summer 2013 - they have the better body of work: head to head record, overall record and number of tournaments won.
How are the Turtles the "best" team in the country when they lost three tourneys this summer? Including the Nat championship a few weeks ago/ (didn't even make into the finals!) ???? Other better teams from PA and MD. Even CA!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Tenacious Turtles are a team that is under the LI Express organization umbrella as their A team for the 2017 age group. They don't have tryouts for this team it's invitation only and almost the entire team has been together for the last 4 years. The owner of Lacrosse Unlimited runs the team and his son is on it.
And that owner's other son plays for Express.
And the Lacrosse Unlimited logo appears on most Express uniforms.
One hand washing the other. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles are the best team in the country at the 2017 grade for sure just like the 91 Xtreme (www.91xtreme.com) are the best 7th grade team in the country. also amazing to watch.
If 91extreme is the best team in the country and lost to the express terps one most wonder if the terps are the best team in the universe but they lost to the crabs so the crabs must be the best team in the galaxy........or, maybe they are all just good teams,
Nobody cares about 91......please leave.
91 Extreme beat Express Terps 2 out of the 3 times they played this year and was 2-0 against the Crabs. They are each good teams, but 91 Extreme gets the nod for Spring/Summer 2013 - they have the better body of work: head to head record, overall record and number of tournaments won.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles are the best team in the country at the 2017 grade for sure just like the 91 Xtreme (www.91xtreme.com) are the best 7th grade team in the country. also amazing to watch.
If 91extreme is the best team in the country and lost to the express terps one most wonder if the terps are the best team in the universe but they lost to the crabs so the crabs must be the best team in the galaxy........or, maybe they are all just good teams,
91 Extreme beat Express Terps 2 out of the 3 times they played this year and was 2-0 against the Crabs. They are each good teams, but 91 Extreme gets the nod for Spring/Summer 2013 - they have the better body of work: head to head record, overall record and number of tournaments won.
Depends on how you want to spin this. Extreme did beat the Terps in a "Preseason Tournament". In season, they beat them in a preliminary game then lost to the Terps in the CHAMPIONSHIP at LI LAXFEST, 91's premiere lacrosse tournament.
That said, the tread is about putting Extreme in the same breath as the Turtles. While the Extreme is "one " of the best teams in the 2018 age group, the Turtles NEVER lost or tied to any team thier age group when they were rising 8th graders. Extreme has 2 losses and 2 ties "in season" to 2018 teams.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Tenacious Turtles are a team that is under the LI Express organization umbrella as their A team for the 2017 age group. They don't have tryouts for this team it's invitation only and almost the entire team has been together for the last 4 years. The owner of Lacrosse Unlimited runs the team and his son is on it.
And that owner's other son plays for Express.
And the Lacrosse Unlimited logo appears on most Express uniforms.
One hand washing the other. Nothing more, nothing less.
Ok. So if Lacrosse Unlimited (Turtles) gets their logo on most Express uniforms. What does Express get out of the relationship? A cut of the annual Turtle fees? Free/discounted uniforms? Practice time in the Turtle dome? Any other benefits to either side? Doesn't seem like there's really much there that either side benefits from. Does this "all in the family" prevent either side from poaching players from the other or is there a "hands off" unwritten rule?
91 Extreme not even in the same universe at the Turtles. My son has played against both teams and the Turtles are clearly one of the best teams in the country in their age group. 91 Extreme are a very good team but not even close to the Turtles.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles are the best team in the country at the 2017 grade for sure just like the 91 Xtreme (www.91xtreme.com) are the best 7th grade team in the country. also amazing to watch.
If 91extreme is the best team in the country and lost to the express terps one most wonder if the terps are the best team in the universe but they lost to the crabs so the crabs must be the best team in the galaxy........or, maybe they are all just good teams,
91 Extreme beat Express Terps 2 out of the 3 times they played this year and was 2-0 against the Crabs. They are each good teams, but 91 Extreme gets the nod for Spring/Summer 2013 - they have the better body of work: head to head record, overall record and number of tournaments won.
How are the Turtles the "best" team in the country when they lost three tourneys this summer? Including the Nat championship a few weeks ago/ (didn't even make into the finals!) ???? Other better teams from PA and MD. Even CA!
Turtles are a 2017 team. They always play up in EVERY tournament they play in. National Cahmpionship are 2016 teams Mr. Lacrosse...understand???
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91 Extreme not even in the same universe at the Turtles. My son has played against both teams and the Turtles are clearly one of the best teams in the country in their age group. 91 Extreme are a very good team but not even close to the Turtles.
I don't think the poster was compating the 2018 Xtreme and the Turtles. The comparison was made between the 2018 Terps and Xtreme.
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91 Extreme not even in the same universe at the Turtles. My son has played against both teams and the Turtles are clearly one of the best teams in the country in their age group. 91 Extreme are a very good team but not even close to the Turtles.
Just curious, how can your son play against both teams if one is a 2017 team that always plays up, and the other a 2018 team that usually plays up? Assuming 2018 team only plays up by one grade.
91 extreme a very good team. 2018 express terps and crabs are also very good teams. 91 beat terps 2 out of 3 this year, but the loss was 4 to 1 in the chanpionship game at laxfest. Terps went 1 and 1 with the crabs this year.
Hard to give anyone the nod, but if it makes the 91 people feel better, I would agree as a terps parent that 91 extreme is a tiny little bit better...
Hard to give anyone the nod, but if it makes the 91 people feel better, I would agree as a terps parent that 91 extreme is a tiny little bit better...
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91 Extreme not even in the same universe at the Turtles. My son has played against both teams and the Turtles are clearly one of the best teams in the country in their age group. 91 Extreme are a very good team but not even close to the Turtles.
91 Extreme? Aren't they a year younger?
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Turtles are the best team in the country at the 2017 grade for sure just like the 91 Xtreme (www.91xtreme.com) are the best 7th grade team in the country. also amazing to watch.
If 91extreme is the best team in the country and lost to the express terps one most wonder if the terps are the best team in the universe but they lost to the crabs so the crabs must be the best team in the galaxy........or, maybe they are all just good teams,
91 Extreme beat Express Terps 2 out of the 3 times they played this year and was 2-0 against the Crabs. They are each good teams, but 91 Extreme gets the nod for Spring/Summer 2013 - they have the better body of work: head to head record, overall record and number of tournaments won.
Depends on how you want to spin this. Extreme did beat the Terps in a "Preseason Tournament". In season, they beat them in a preliminary game then lost to the Terps in the CHAMPIONSHIP at LI LAXFEST, 91's premiere lacrosse tournament.
That said, the tread is about putting Extreme in the same breath as the Turtles. While the Extreme is "one " of the best teams in the 2018 age group, the Turtles NEVER lost or tied to any team thier age group when they were rising 8th graders. Extreme has 2 losses and 2 ties "in season" to 2018 teams.
The thread is not comparing Xtreme to the Turtles, it is comparing Extreme to the Terps and the Crabs. Spin all you want, but Xtreme beat the Terps 3 of the last 4 times they've played, and beat the Crabs both times they played this year. T
Duke is the best team in the country, after that who cares. And to the 91extremly annoying parents that obsessively post on the Express web site, go away.
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I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Tenacious Turtles are a team that is under the LI Express organization umbrella as their A team for the 2017 age group. They don't have tryouts for this team it's invitation only and almost the entire team has been together for the last 4 years. The owner of Lacrosse Unlimited runs the team and his son is on it.
Does anybody really know what the relationship is between the turtles and the Express? What does the Express get out of "the relationship" and what do the Turtles get out of it?
Turtles are a hand picked team associated with LIE. 2017 age group. Supposed to be the best of the best for that age group. No expense has been sparred for their training. Truth is they had a great run, but are having a little trouble maintaining their elite title, not bringing in the tournament wins they enjoyed in the past. As this group of boys enters their HS years now, it will be interesting to see what happens to them. Some really good players there, but then again there are a lot of really good plays that don't play for the turtles as well.
Still doesn't explain exactly what the relationship is between the Express and Turtles. Turtles seem to function completely seperately from the rest of the Express. Do they even show up to the Express organizational meeting that all other express teams attend to pay, be fitted for uniforms, be told what the tournament schedule is etc...? I'd really like somebody to explain what the association is. Just curious but it seems odd. I really don't see the benefit for either party and why the Turtles seem to operate independently unlike any other express team in any other grade if they really are part of the Express. What's the deal?
Why do you care so much. I think the question has been answered like 5 times on this thread...move on to the 91 website...
You obviously don't have an answer or at least not one that you can articulate very well. I think you should move on.
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
Does anybody really know what the relationship is between the turtles and the Express? What does the Express get out of "the relationship" and what do the Turtles get out of it?
Still doesn't explain exactly what the relationship is between the Express and Turtles. Turtles seem to function completely seperately from the rest of the Express. Do they even show up to the Express organizational meeting that all other express teams attend to pay, be fitted for uniforms, be told what the tournament schedule is etc...? I'd really like somebody to explain what the association is. Just curious but it seems odd. I really don't see the benefit for either party and why the Turtles seem to operate independently unlike any other express team in any other grade if they really are part of the Express. What's the deal?
Why do you care so much. I think the question has been answered like 5 times on this thread...move on to the 91 website...
You obviously don't have an answer or at least not one that you can articulate very well. I think you should move on.
you started this conversation saying you were a newbie but your follow posts imply that you are asking a question you already know the answer to. I am not involved in the Turtles but it seems like your question has been answered.
Many organizations have teams within the organization that have similar set ups. They play under the organizations banner but really operate completely independently, The turtles seem to be very separate, They wear their own uniforms, not sure if any money goes through the express (who cares) but at the end of the day if they win a tournament the picture goes up on the Express web site and in turn the Express buys all their stuff from lacrosse unlimited so it seems that they are better together then they would be apart.
Now that the Turtles are established maybe they don't need the Express but in the beginning the Express name gave them some credibility and the Turtles coach is keeping the affiliation out of appreciation and loyalty (something you don't usually associate with club lacrosse)
Maybe the Turtles started as a town team and the coach wanted to break away from the town team and some weaker players and to not offend anybody went to Express and set it up through them rather then be an independent team and have the town folk upset at him.
I am most interested in why you care so much about this private team playing for this private organization?
Listen, what don't you understand people...unless your team has an OFFICIAL PERSONAL WEBSITE, (thought they were part of an organization, but I digress...)screaming your 12/13/14 yr olds' accomplishments...your team means nothing..... If nobody is questioning the "relationship" between 2 businesses, because that is what these teams and organizations are... your kids accomplishments mean nothing.... Deep breath people, deep breath...
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I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Turtles are a team that is assocoated with the Long Island Express. They are a 2017 team that always plays up. Probably one of the best teams for their age group in the country. You get asked to play for them. There are no tryouts. They have their own web site: http://turtleslax.com/
They are amazing to watch...
If they are so great how come the first 2017 to commit isn't from the turtles? And didn't the greatest team in the world just lose to Dukes 2017 last month?
There's been a 2017 commit? Who and from where? Please back up your statement with facts.
Yup its a fact. Player is NOT from LI and NOT a Turtles player. And the second 2017 commit is coming very soon, also NOT A TURTLE.
Turtles may best team.....not the best players. But great team chemistry
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I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Turtles are a team that is assocoated with the Long Island Express. They are a 2017 team that always plays up. Probably one of the best teams for their age group in the country. You get asked to play for them. There are no tryouts. They have their own web site: http://turtleslax.com/
They are amazing to watch...
If they are so great how come the first 2017 to commit isn't from the turtles? And didn't the greatest team in the world just lose to Dukes 2017 last month?
There's been a 2017 commit? Who and from where? Please back up your statement with facts.
Yup its a fact. Player is NOT from LI and NOT a Turtles player. And the second 2017 commit is coming very soon, also NOT A TURTLE.
This "first 2017" commit is not even a true 2017 or from NY. He is a 2016 that announced that he will do a PG year a then be a "2017".
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I am a newbie. can someone explain to me what the turtles are? I Read a lot abot them but dont see them listed as a LI club on the right. Thanks
The Turtles are a team that is assocoated with the Long Island Express. They are a 2017 team that always plays up. Probably one of the best teams for their age group in the country. You get asked to play for them. There are no tryouts. They have their own web site: http://turtleslax.com/
They are amazing to watch...
If they are so great how come the first 2017 to commit isn't from the turtles? And didn't the greatest team in the world just lose to Dukes 2017 last month?
There's been a 2017 commit? Who and from where? Please back up your statement with facts.
Yup its a fact. Player is NOT from LI and NOT a Turtles player. And the second 2017 commit is coming very soon, also NOT A TURTLE.
This "first 2017" commit is not even a true 2017 or from NY. He is a 2016 that announced that he will do a PG year a then be a "2017".
Huh? So, we are doing a prep year "before" even starting second year of high school now? What does that say about the state of college lacrosse? Scary stuff. Crack a book now and then boys, crack a book. They call it "college" lacrosse after all. Or is lacrosse going the way of most major college football programs?
And what if this kid was held back a year already? Maybe he'll be a 20 year old senior.
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Turtles are the best team in the country at the 2017 grade for sure just like the 91 Xtreme (www.91xtreme.com) are the best 7th grade team in the country. also amazing to watch.
If 91extreme is the best team in the country and lost to the express terps one most wonder if the terps are the best team in the universe but they lost to the crabs so the crabs must be the best team in the galaxy........or, maybe they are all just good teams,
Crabs are the the best...can beat anyone, any time...91, Terps, Turtles...any time, any place
91 Extreme beat Express Terps 2 out of the 3 times they played this year and was 2-0 against the Crabs. They are each good teams, but 91 Extreme gets the nod for Spring/Summer 2013 - they have the better body of work: head to head record, overall record and number of tournaments won.
yes there is a trend, if you can afford it, go to prep school and redo your frosh year if you can afford it. (some schools you can repeat 8th but still maintain the level of academics. This is not new to college sports.
but keep in mind if you do this your child (most likely) will get one heck of an education and an opportunity at a better college isn't that what it is about.
but keep in mind if you do this your child (most likely) will get one heck of an education and an opportunity at a better college isn't that what it is about.
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yes there is a trend, if you can afford it, go to prep school and redo your frosh year if you can afford it. (some schools you can repeat 8th but still maintain the level of academics. This is not new to college sports.
but keep in mind if you do this your child (most likely) will get one heck of an education and an opportunity at a better college isn't that what it is about.
but keep in mind if you do this your child (most likely) will get one heck of an education and an opportunity at a better college isn't that what it is about.
Figure $200k+ for 4 years at most of the boarding high schools. And no guarantee it will work out the way you envision. But, what the heck, you can't take it with you.
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yes there is a trend, if you can afford it, go to prep school and redo your frosh year if you can afford it. (some schools you can repeat 8th but still maintain the level of academics. This is not new to college sports.
but keep in mind if you do this your child (most likely) will get one heck of an education and an opportunity at a better college isn't that what it is about.
but keep in mind if you do this your child (most likely) will get one heck of an education and an opportunity at a better college isn't that what it is about.
OMG! you said education, wow thats wacky!
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Turtles are the best team in the country at the 2017 grade for sure just like the 91 Xtreme (www.91xtreme.com) are the best 7th grade team in the country. also amazing to watch.
If 91extreme is the best team in the country and lost to the express terps one most wonder if the terps are the best team in the universe but they lost to the crabs so the crabs must be the best team in the galaxy........or, maybe they are all just good teams,
Crabs are the the best...can beat anyone, any time...91, Terps, Turtles...any time, any place
91 Extreme beat Express Terps 2 out of the 3 times they played this year and was 2-0 against the Crabs. They are each good teams, but 91 Extreme gets the nod for Spring/Summer 2013 - they have the better body of work: head to head record, overall record and number of tournaments won.
team 91 never played the Terps Black team
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Turtles are the best team in the country at the 2017 grade for sure just like the 91 Xtreme (www.91xtreme.com) are the best 7th grade team in the country. also amazing to watch.
If 91extreme is the best team in the country and lost to the express terps one most wonder if the terps are the best team in the universe but they lost to the crabs so the crabs must be the best team in the galaxy........or, maybe they are all just good teams,
Crabs are the the best...can beat anyone, any time...91, Terps, Turtles...any time, any place
91 Extreme beat Express Terps 2 out of the 3 times they played this year and was 2-0 against the Crabs. They are each good teams, but 91 Extreme gets the nod for Spring/Summer 2013 - they have the better body of work: head to head record, overall record and number of tournaments won.
team 91 never played the Terps Black team
lots of mixing grades and teams in the conversation
Terps Black are 2017 as are Turtles
2018 also has a terps but they are not black
91extreme is a 2018
please be mindful when you are bashing a team you have the correct team
will the turtles ever have another team or are they one and done?
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will the turtles ever have another team or are they one and done?
I doubt it. papa JD is in it for his son. It's not about anyone else. But then again there is another one coming up in a few years, (2020) so you never know! Problem is Orange Crush (91 2020) is hard to touch!!
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will the turtles ever have another team or are they one and done?
I doubt it. papa JD is in it for his son. It's not about anyone else. But then again there is another one coming up in a few years, (2020) so you never know! Problem is Orange Crush (91 2020) is hard to touch!!
Hard to touch......They are 11 years old. A lot can change in the upcoming years.
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will the turtles ever have another team or are they one and done?
I doubt it. papa JD is in it for his son. It's not about anyone else. But then again there is another one coming up in a few years, (2020) so you never know! Problem is Orange Crush (91 2020) is hard to touch!!
Hard to touch......They are 11 years old. A lot can change in the upcoming years.
True, but the Turtles peaked in 7th grade, so that doesn't leave too much time for a "Turtles 2" team to emerge and dominate does it?
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will the turtles ever have another team or are they one and done?
I doubt it. papa JD is in it for his son. It's not about anyone else. But then again there is another one coming up in a few years, (2020) so you never know! Problem is Orange Crush (91 2020) is hard to touch!!
Hard to touch......They are 11 years old. A lot can change in the upcoming years.
True, but the Turtles peaked in 7th grade, so that doesn't leave too much time for a "Turtles 2" team to emerge and dominate does it?
Hate to break the news. Turtles have yet to peak, not even close. #chosenones
Haha That's funny!, Unfortunately results don't lie. Who's next?
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will the turtles ever have another team or are they one and done?
I doubt it. papa JD is in it for his son. It's not about anyone else. But then again there is another one coming up in a few years, (2020) so you never know! Problem is Orange Crush (91 2020) is hard to touch!!
Hard to touch......They are 11 years old. A lot can change in the upcoming years.
True, but the Turtles peaked in 7th grade, so that doesn't leave too much time for a "Turtles 2" team to emerge and dominate does it?
Hate to break the news. Turtles have yet to peak, not even close. #chosenones
Turtles are a very good team. They have no weak links and play disciplined. That is why they win. I am happy my son is not on their team though, as there is rampant nepotism on the Turtles. That is not a healthy situation. Better off playing for the LI Express and even though you have to deal with a lot of drama, you don't have to deal with nepotism.
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will the turtles ever have another team or are they one and done?
I doubt it. papa JD is in it for his son. It's not about anyone else. But then again there is another one coming up in a few years, (2020) so you never know! Problem is Orange Crush (91 2020) is hard to touch!!
Hard to touch......They are 11 years old. A lot can change in the upcoming years.
True, but the Turtles peaked in 7th grade, so that doesn't leave too much time for a "Turtles 2" team to emerge and dominate does it?
Hate to break the news. Turtles have yet to peak, not even close. #chosenones
Turtles are a very good team. They have no weak links and play disciplined. That is why they win. I am happy my son is not on their team though, as there is rampant nepotism on the Turtles. That is not a healthy situation. Better off playing for the LI Express and even though you have to deal with a lot of drama, you don't have to deal with nepotism.
Wait, I thought Turtle where Express? I'm so confused!
Turtles are Express
Turtles are very good
Turtles are not "the best" not winning tournaments like they used to, which is why I said they peaked in 7th grade, they were better then!
There is plenty of nepotism on that team. [/quote]
Turtles are very good
Turtles are not "the best" not winning tournaments like they used to, which is why I said they peaked in 7th grade, they were better then!
There is plenty of nepotism on that team. [/quote]
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Turtles are Express
Turtles are very good
Turtles are not "the best" not winning tournaments like they used to, which is why I said they peaked in 7th grade, they were better then!
There is plenty of nepotism on that team.
Turtles are very good
Turtles are not "the best" not winning tournaments like they used to, which is why I said they peaked in 7th grade, they were better then!
There is plenty of nepotism on that team.
Usuaully success and nepotism do not go together. They must be one of the few organizations on the planet that's figured out how to make those two work. Or it could be that the rest of the talent pool is so fragmented that the nepotism formula can still work. Cudas also got away with alot of nepotism against weaker teams but it caught up to them over and over when they ran into teams with highly concentrated talent throughout the summer and likewise didn't win many tournaments. Democracy (ie. most talented kids no matter who they know or don't know) always wins in the long run over nepotism.
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Turtles are Express
Turtles are very good
Turtles are not "the best" not winning tournaments like they used to, which is why I said they peaked in 7th grade, they were better then!
There is plenty of nepotism on that team.
Turtles are very good
Turtles are not "the best" not winning tournaments like they used to, which is why I said they peaked in 7th grade, they were better then!
There is plenty of nepotism on that team.
Usuaully success and nepotism do not go together. They must be one of the few organizations on the planet that's figured out how to make those two work. Or it could be that the rest of the talent pool is so fragmented that the nepotism formula can still work. Cudas also got away with alot of nepotism against weaker teams but it caught up to them over and over when they ran into teams with highly concentrated talent throughout the summer and likewise didn't win many tournaments. Democracy (ie. most talented kids no matter who they know or don't know) always wins in the long run over nepotism. [/quote]
That's not the definition of a Democracy.
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Turtles are Express
Turtles are very good
Turtles are not "the best" not winning tournaments like they used to, which is why I said they peaked in 7th grade, they were better then!
There is plenty of nepotism on that team.
Turtles are very good
Turtles are not "the best" not winning tournaments like they used to, which is why I said they peaked in 7th grade, they were better then!
There is plenty of nepotism on that team.
Usuaully success and nepotism do not go together. They must be one of the few organizations on the planet that's figured out how to make those two work. Or it could be that the rest of the talent pool is so fragmented that the nepotism formula can still work. Cudas also got away with alot of nepotism against weaker teams but it caught up to them over and over when they ran into teams with highly concentrated talent throughout the summer and likewise didn't win many tournaments. Democracy (ie. most talented kids no matter who they know or don't know) always wins in the long run over nepotism.
That's not the definition of a Democracy. [/quote]
I think you meant meritocracy...:)
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Turtles are Express
Turtles are very good
Turtles are not "the best" not winning tournaments like they used to, which is why I said they peaked in 7th grade, they were better then!
There is plenty of nepotism on that team.
Turtles are very good
Turtles are not "the best" not winning tournaments like they used to, which is why I said they peaked in 7th grade, they were better then!
There is plenty of nepotism on that team.
Usuaully success and nepotism do not go together. They must be one of the few organizations on the planet that's figured out how to make those two work. Or it could be that the rest of the talent pool is so fragmented that the nepotism formula can still work. Cudas also got away with alot of nepotism against weaker teams but it caught up to them over and over when they ran into teams with highly concentrated talent throughout the summer and likewise didn't win many tournaments. Democracy (ie. most talented kids no matter who they know or don't know) always wins in the long run over nepotism.
That's not the definition of a Democracy.
I think you meant meritocracy...:) [/quote]
True. Turtles make it work because all the players are decent, many not great. A few are exceptional, especially the attack. The great kids carry the rest. Many kids look better than they are on that team playing together. Unfortunately, that is not what the colleges are looking for. The great ones will get well deserved scholarships, the rest may be surprised when the offers don't come rolling in!
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will the turtles ever have another team or are they one and done?
I doubt it. papa JD is in it for his son. It's not about anyone else. But then again there is another one coming up in a few years, (2020) so you never know! Problem is Orange Crush (91 2020) is hard to touch!!
Hard to touch......They are 11 years old. A lot can change in the upcoming years.
True, but the Turtles peaked in 7th grade, so that doesn't leave too much time for a "Turtles 2" team to emerge and dominate does it?
Hate to break the news. Turtles have yet to peak, not even close. #chosenones
Turtles are a very good team. They have no weak links and play disciplined. That is why they win. I am happy my son is not on their team though, as there is rampant nepotism on the Turtles. That is not a healthy situation. Better off playing for the LI Express and even though you have to deal with a lot of drama, you don't have to deal with nepotism.
"Better off playing for the LI Express" than the Turtles? Come on!!! Nepotism > drama (& BTW "drama" is an understatement;)
Turtles are a very good team. They have no weak links and play disciplined. That is why they win. I am happy my son is not on their team though, as there is rampant nepotism on the Turtles. That is not a healthy situation. Better off playing for the LI Express and even though you have to deal with a lot of drama, you don't have to deal with nepotism. [/quote]
"Better off playing for the LI Express" than the Turtles? Come on!!! Nepotism > drama (& BTW "drama" is an understatement;) [/quote]
I would take the Drama>Nepotism. Would prefer neither of course. But this is Youth Lacrosse and your never going to find a perfect situation.
I heard the 2020 Express had Over 100 kids at tryouts on Saturday and that they are looking to fill 2 spots.
Crazy how many people shelled out the $$ with those odds Would you do that in Vegas?
These pay to play clubs have really convinced parents that this is the kids only shot and like lemmings they line up to pay
Crazy how many people shelled out the $$ with those odds Would you do that in Vegas?
These pay to play clubs have really convinced parents that this is the kids only shot and like lemmings they line up to pay
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I heard the 2020 Express had Over 100 kids at tryouts on Saturday and that they are looking to fill 2 spots.
Crazy how many people shelled out the $$ with those odds Would you do that in Vegas?
These pay to play clubs have really convinced parents that this is the kids only shot and like lemmings they line up to pay
Crazy how many people shelled out the $$ with those odds Would you do that in Vegas?
These pay to play clubs have really convinced parents that this is the kids only shot and like lemmings they line up to pay
Monkey see, monkey do.
Express will turnover kids to improve the talent on their teams. If there are better kids that come along, existing players will get cut. If there were 100 kids at the tryout, many of these were likely returning players as well and not altogether new players. If your kid is good, they will get on a team. If your kid is as good, but not better than, a returning player, the returning player will likely get the spot.
This is pretty much the same drill for all paying clubs especially as the kids get older. There are established teams with a few spots available on each team because of kids that leave or to replace kids that didn't perform well. Even the clubs that call themselves "not for profit" are charging for tryouts where there are only a few spots available. With Express the odds for making a team are worse because so many people come to the tryouts because they want to play for Express. The other clubs would take the same money if they had the turnout. Express does a great tryout and has many paid evaluators that they have to compensate. Many of the "not for profits" have parent coaches evaluating and they are still charging something, many $50 and up.
It's pretty simple, kids have to stand out to take a spot from an existing player at any of these tryouts. Express is harder because there are more kids at the tryout. If they do something to get noticed, they will have their choice of clubs even if there are 100 kids at the tryout.
It's pretty simple, kids have to stand out to take a spot from an existing player at any of these tryouts. Express is harder because there are more kids at the tryout. If they do something to get noticed, they will have their choice of clubs even if there are 100 kids at the tryout.
I was at the 91 workout with my son but I was told the talent level for the 2019 team at Express was much lower then they had hoped and the A team will probably be more of a low A team and the B team more like a C.Any feedback on if that was true or not.Pleasse respond only if you were there.There were a bunch of Express helmets at the 91 tryout but I really didn't look to see how good they were or if they played for the A or B at express last year.
Only if a returning player comes back.If 9 of the kids from your A team go over to 91 to try out you will also have openings. But will the talent be better or will you just be filling spots.
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Only if a returning player comes back.If 9 of the kids from your A team go over to 91 to try out you will also have openings. But will the talent be better or will you just be filling spots.
Yes it will weaken the talent base but that's ok because winning is not the most important thing, It seems that just wearing the helmet makes people happy whether you are on the A,B or C team
Comment of the day so far... "and like lemmings they line up to pay" ... my prediction is this guy didn't like the tryout and felt like his 100 bucks was wasted so he feels like jumping off a cliff...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Comment of the day so far... "and like lemmings they line up to pay" ... my prediction is this guy didn't like the tryout and felt like his 100 bucks was wasted so he feels like jumping off a cliff...
Stay away from Express unless your kid is going to St. Anthony's or is on the Express "A" team. Jesters, fl$, Outlaws have excellent recruiting placement track records for public school kids.
I was at the 2019 tryouts this past weekend with my son. I heard that there were approximately 125 kids. I can tell you that the kids that I watched looked pretty impressive. They certainly did not look like low A or B team players to me. I did see some 91, True Blue and Rampage helmets, but there were obviously more Express helmets out there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was at the 2019 tryouts this past weekend with my son. I heard that there were approximately 125 kids. I can tell you that the kids that I watched looked pretty impressive. They certainly did not look like low A or B team players to me. I did see some 91, True Blue and Rampage helmets, but there were obviously more Express helmets out there.
I can tell you what I saw was probably the least talent we have had there in years and I have gone for the past three years. Unless they grab some kids off of other tryouts it will be a long season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was at the 2019 tryouts this past weekend with my son. I heard that there were approximately 125 kids. I can tell you that the kids that I watched looked pretty impressive. They certainly did not look like low A or B team players to me. I did see some 91, True Blue and Rampage helmets, but there were obviously more Express helmets out there.
I can tell you what I saw was probably the least talent we have had there in years and I have gone for the past three years. Unless they grab some kids off of other tryouts it will be a long season.
I disagree, I saw some very athletic kids and some very skilled lacrosse players.
If they get it right the A team will be very strong.
If other kids stay the second team will be good as well.
Listen to the guy that's been there the past three years... he knows the level of players that have been there and left. With so many of their kids at the 91 tryout, I tend to believe him.
I can tell you what I saw was probably the least talent we have had there in years and I have gone for the past three years. Unless they grab some kids off of other tryouts it will be a long season.
I disagree, I saw some very athletic kids and some very skilled lacrosse players.
If they get it right the A team will be very strong.
If other kids stay the second team will be good as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was at the 2019 tryouts this past weekend with my son. I heard that there were approximately 125 kids. I can tell you that the kids that I watched looked pretty impressive. They certainly did not look like low A or B team players to me. I did see some 91, True Blue and Rampage helmets, but there were obviously more Express helmets out there.
I can tell you what I saw was probably the least talent we have had there in years and I have gone for the past three years. Unless they grab some kids off of other tryouts it will be a long season.
I disagree, I saw some very athletic kids and some very skilled lacrosse players.
If they get it right the A team will be very strong.
If other kids stay the second team will be good as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Listen to the guy that's been there the past three years... he knows the level of players that have been there and left. With so many of their kids at the 91 tryout, I tend to believe him.
I have only been there the last two years and yes there was a drop off in talent but what can you do
I can tell you what I saw was probably the least talent we have had there in years and I have gone for the past three years. Unless they grab some kids off of other tryouts it will be a long season.
I disagree, I saw some very athletic kids and some very skilled lacrosse players.
If they get it right the A team will be very strong.
If other kids stay the second team will be good as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was at the 2019 tryouts this past weekend with my son. I heard that there were approximately 125 kids. I can tell you that the kids that I watched looked pretty impressive. They certainly did not look like low A or B team players to me. I did see some 91, True Blue and Rampage helmets, but there were obviously more Express helmets out there.
I have only been there the last two years and yes there was a drop off in talent but what can you do
I can tell you what I saw was probably the least talent we have had there in years and I have gone for the past three years. Unless they grab some kids off of other tryouts it will be a long season.
I disagree, I saw some very athletic kids and some very skilled lacrosse players.
If they get it right the A team will be very strong.
If other kids stay the second team will be good as well.
Second Team ? I would rather try out for Icon, True Blue, Millon Force etc
There are still plenty of good teams w/ tryouts remaining.
I disagree, I saw some very athletic kids and some very skilled lacrosse players.
If they get it right the A team will be very strong.
If other kids stay the second team will be good as well. [/quote]
There are still plenty of good teams w/ tryouts remaining.
I disagree, I saw some very athletic kids and some very skilled lacrosse players.
If they get it right the A team will be very strong.
If other kids stay the second team will be good as well. [/quote]
Don't get sucked into the hype of any of these clubs or get hung up on which kid plays for what club. College coaches could care less what club team your sons play for - It makes absolutely no difference to them so don't drink the cool-aid of any program, including the Express. All the college coaches care about is your kid as an individual. He could play for the 3 stooges club located in tim-buk-to and it wouldn't matter as long as they see him and he's a stud he doesn't have to come from a well known program. The great majority of kids on D1 rosters played for club programs that you've never heard of. Go with the cheapest for some exposure and supplement with individual showcases and college prospect days. Trust me, I've just been through it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't get sucked into the hype of any of these clubs or get hung up on which kid plays for what club. College coaches could care less what club team your sons play for - It makes absolutely no difference to them so don't drink the cool-aid of any program, including the Express. All the college coaches care about is your kid as an individual. He could play for the 3 stooges club located in tim-buk-to and it wouldn't matter as long as they see him and he's a stud he doesn't have to come from a well known program. The great majority of kids on D1 rosters played for club programs that you've never heard of. Go with the cheapest for some exposure and supplement with individual showcases and college prospect days. Trust me, I've just been through it.
You are correct, and thank you. Great post.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't get sucked into the hype of any of these clubs or get hung up on which kid plays for what club. College coaches could care less what club team your sons play for - It makes absolutely no difference to them so don't drink the cool-aid of any program, including the Express. All the college coaches care about is your kid as an individual. He could play for the 3 stooges club located in tim-buk-to and it wouldn't matter as long as they see him and he's a stud he doesn't have to come from a well known program. The great majority of kids on D1 rosters played for club programs that you've never heard of. Go with the cheapest for some exposure and supplement with individual showcases and college prospect days. Trust me, I've just been through it.
You are correct, and thank you. Great post.
I just went through it as well. My son did not play for any of the "big" clubs, he is now recruited to an excellent D1 school with a very nice scholarship. He was seen at recruiting camps, not club play!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't get sucked into the hype of any of these clubs or get hung up on which kid plays for what club. College coaches could care less what club team your sons play for - It makes absolutely no difference to them so don't drink the cool-aid of any program, including the Express. All the college coaches care about is your kid as an individual. He could play for the 3 stooges club located in tim-buk-to and it wouldn't matter as long as they see him and he's a stud he doesn't have to come from a well known program. The great majority of kids on D1 rosters played for club programs that you've never heard of. Go with the cheapest for some exposure and supplement with individual showcases and college prospect days. Trust me, I've just been through it.
You are correct, and thank you. Great post.
I just went through it as well. My son did not play for any of the "big" clubs, he is now recruited to an excellent D1 school with a very nice scholarship. He was seen at recruiting camps, not club play!
I tend to agree with the post. BUT..Your child is only going to get better if he plays with better players and gets better coaching. Most high schools do not provide one or the other or both.
The bigger clubs tend to get better players that help your child get better. Obviously there are exceptions, but this seems to be the trend over the past few years since we have become obsessed with getting our children some sort of scholarship for lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't get sucked into the hype of any of these clubs or get hung up on which kid plays for what club. College coaches could care less what club team your sons play for - It makes absolutely no difference to them so don't drink the cool-aid of any program, including the Express. All the college coaches care about is your kid as an individual. He could play for the 3 stooges club located in tim-buk-to and it wouldn't matter as long as they see him and he's a stud he doesn't have to come from a well known program. The great majority of kids on D1 rosters played for club programs that you've never heard of. Go with the cheapest for some exposure and supplement with individual showcases and college prospect days. Trust me, I've just been through it.
You are correct, and thank you. Great post.
I just went through it as well. My son did not play for any of the "big" clubs, he is now recruited to an excellent D1 school with a very nice scholarship. He was seen at recruiting camps, not club play!
I tend to agree with the post. BUT..Your child is only going to get better if he plays with better players and gets better coaching. Most high schools do not provide one or the other or both.
The bigger clubs tend to get better players that help your child get better. Obviously there are exceptions, but this seems to be the trend over the past few years since we have become obsessed with getting our children some sort of scholarship for lacrosse.
makes me wonder what planet you people are living on. did you know that a fully funded program has 12.1 scholarships spread across the entire team? so you'e talking maybe 1/4 which doesn't account for much. most people will get more in financial aid packages based on income and need. stop talking about scholarship $$ because it makes you sound dumb. it's all about gettiing into a school that otherwise may be unreachable.
dont confuse better coaching with have having bigger numbers attend tryouts. the quantity of better kids make better coaches
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't get sucked into the hype of any of these clubs or get hung up on which kid plays for what club. College coaches could care less what club team your sons play for - It makes absolutely no difference to them so don't drink the cool-aid of any program, including the Express. All the college coaches care about is your kid as an individual. He could play for the 3 stooges club located in tim-buk-to and it wouldn't matter as long as they see him and he's a stud he doesn't have to come from a well known program. The great majority of kids on D1 rosters played for club programs that you've never heard of. Go with the cheapest for some exposure and supplement with individual showcases and college prospect days. Trust me, I've just been through it.
It's encouraging to read your post, but can you give some advice on the best ways to get your son "seen", and recruited, if he's not a "stud"? Let's say he's a B to B+ player, on a B team, with a reputable travel program.
I've heard the best thing to do is to try to come up with 3 or 4 schools that he might want to go to, and send him to camps at those specific schools, if they have them.
I know there are showcases you can go to, but my son's only in 7th grade, so I'm not very familiar with them yet (is it Jake Reed, etc?). I think they're by invitation, or tryout, and they're probably geared toward the "studs" that you mentioned.
Other than that, I guess you have to be relentless with emailing coaches, sending them video, and hope that they'll come watch him play at one of the summer tournaments?
Any input, or serious advice, would be greatly appreciated (obviously, from you too CageSage!). Thanks.
My son is just starting his freshman year. I would love to hear what recruting camps he went to? Did he need a coach's recommendation for them? Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't get sucked into the hype of any of these clubs or get hung up on which kid plays for what club. College coaches could care less what club team your sons play for - It makes absolutely no difference to them so don't drink the cool-aid of any program, including the Express. All the college coaches care about is your kid as an individual. He could play for the 3 stooges club located in tim-buk-to and it wouldn't matter as long as they see him and he's a stud he doesn't have to come from a well known program. The great majority of kids on D1 rosters played for club programs that you've never heard of. Go with the cheapest for some exposure and supplement with individual showcases and college prospect days. Trust me, I've just been through it.
You are correct, and thank you. Great post.
I just went through it as well. My son did not play for any of the "big" clubs, he is now recruited to an excellent D1 school with a very nice scholarship. He was seen at recruiting camps, not club play!
I tend to agree with the post. BUT..Your child is only going to get better if he plays with better players and gets better coaching. Most high schools do not provide one or the other or both.
The bigger clubs tend to get better players that help your child get better. Obviously there are exceptions, but this seems to be the trend over the past few years since we have become obsessed with getting our children some sort of scholarship for lacrosse.
I agree with you partly, but I have seen it go both ways. Sometimes the best players just dominate the teams. They won't even pass the ball to certain teamates. That does not help a kid get "better". All the training in the world will not make a kid great. It is part natural ability, part skill, and mostly desire of the kid, not the parent. That part can't be forced. You know your kid really wants it when you have to tell him to come inside because all he wants to do is practice lax. When he does come inside, he goes right to the computer and studies film. I wish all the players the best of luck, and I really do feel that most of the teams out there are doing a great job with the kids and it is not really that important which one you are on, in fact some of the "best clubs" are actually the worst choice unless your kid is a superstar. From what I see, it's the parents that are most concerned about who wins, the kids just want to enjoy the game and each other.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's encouraging to read your post, but can you give some advice on the best ways to get your son "seen", and recruited, if he's not a "stud"? Let's say he's a B to B+ player, on a B team, with a reputable travel program.
I've heard the best thing to do is to try to come up with 3 or 4 schools that he might want to go to, and send him to camps at those specific schools, if they have them.
I know there are showcases you can go to, but my son's only in 7th grade, so I'm not very familiar with them yet (is it Jake Reed, etc?). I think they're by invitation, or tryout, and they're probably geared toward the "studs" that you mentioned.
Other than that, I guess you have to be relentless with emailing coaches, sending them video, and hope that they'll come watch him play at one of the summer tournaments?
Any input, or serious advice, would be greatly appreciated (obviously, from you too CageSage!). Thanks.
I've heard the best thing to do is to try to come up with 3 or 4 schools that he might want to go to, and send him to camps at those specific schools, if they have them.
I know there are showcases you can go to, but my son's only in 7th grade, so I'm not very familiar with them yet (is it Jake Reed, etc?). I think they're by invitation, or tryout, and they're probably geared toward the "studs" that you mentioned.
Other than that, I guess you have to be relentless with emailing coaches, sending them video, and hope that they'll come watch him play at one of the summer tournaments?
Any input, or serious advice, would be greatly appreciated (obviously, from you too CageSage!). Thanks.
As a seventh grader (a Class of 2019 graduate), your student is still too young to qualify for individual showcases that we have posted here on BOTC from K&J/Red Storm, but the team might want to consider the Mustang Tournament in November. This would not necessarily be for recruiting your son, but rather to see how the recruitment process works in the older grades. Seeing a recruiting event in action, particularly here on Long Island, will greatly help your individual preparations.
Regarding mailing video, please note that the days of VHS tapes and DVD highlight discs are well and truly over. If you choose to do a highlight reel, distributing a 120-180 second clip as a YouTube (or similar) video is the most efficient way to e-mail coaches with your footage. Remember however that college coaches will rarely spend much time on such footage and will never make a recruiting decision based on the footage alone.
Finally, keep inviting coaches to tournaments with your schedules, travel directions, and details. While they will not respond to you due to NCAA Regulations, it is always possible that one coach will be at an event and stop by the field. Once, that happens, the entire team will get a lift and everyone will get more focused on controlling the rcruiting cycle.
We hope that these ideas help you and good luck as you start down the recruiting road.
(PS - Notice we never discussed which team you were representing, the club for which your son plays, or the cost of the program.)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't get sucked into the hype of any of these clubs or get hung up on which kid plays for what club. College coaches could care less what club team your sons play for - It makes absolutely no difference to them so don't drink the cool-aid of any program, including the Express. All the college coaches care about is your kid as an individual. He could play for the 3 stooges club located in tim-buk-to and it wouldn't matter as long as they see him and he's a stud he doesn't have to come from a well known program. The great majority of kids on D1 rosters played for club programs that you've never heard of. Go with the cheapest for some exposure and supplement with individual showcases and college prospect days. Trust me, I've just been through it.
You are correct, and thank you. Great post.
I just went through it as well. My son did not play for any of the "big" clubs, he is now recruited to an excellent D1 school with a very nice scholarship. He was seen at recruiting camps, not club play!
I tend to agree with the post. BUT..Your child is only going to get better if he plays with better players and gets better coaching. Most high schools do not provide one or the other or both.
The bigger clubs tend to get better players that help your child get better. Obviously there are exceptions, but this seems to be the trend over the past few years since we have become obsessed with getting our children some sort of scholarship for lacrosse.
makes me wonder what planet you people are living on. did you know that a fully funded program has 12.1 scholarships spread across the entire team? so you'e talking maybe 1/4 which doesn't account for much. most people will get more in financial aid packages based on income and need. stop talking about scholarship $$ because it makes you sound dumb. it's all about gettiing into a school that otherwise may be unreachable.
I may be "dumb" but my son will have half of his tuition paid at a top notch school. Sorry you did not do as well:(
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't get sucked into the hype of any of these clubs or get hung up on which kid plays for what club. College coaches could care less what club team your sons play for - It makes absolutely no difference to them so don't drink the cool-aid of any program, including the Express. All the college coaches care about is your kid as an individual. He could play for the 3 stooges club located in tim-buk-to and it wouldn't matter as long as they see him and he's a stud he doesn't have to come from a well known program. The great majority of kids on D1 rosters played for club programs that you've never heard of. Go with the cheapest for some exposure and supplement with individual showcases and college prospect days. Trust me, I've just been through it.
You are correct, and thank you. Great post.
I just went through it as well. My son did not play for any of the "big" clubs, he is now recruited to an excellent D1 school with a very nice scholarship. He was seen at recruiting camps, not club play!
I tend to agree with the post. BUT..Your child is only going to get better if he plays with better players and gets better coaching. Most high schools do not provide one or the other or both.
The bigger clubs tend to get better players that help your child get better. Obviously there are exceptions, but this seems to be the trend over the past few years since we have become obsessed with getting our children some sort of scholarship for lacrosse.
makes me wonder what planet you people are living on. did you know that a fully funded program has 12.1 scholarships spread across the entire team? so you'e talking maybe 1/4 which doesn't account for much. most people will get more in financial aid packages based on income and need. stop talking about scholarship $$ because it makes you sound dumb. it's all about gettiing into a school that otherwise may be unreachable.
Actually it's 12.6 for boys and 12 for girls
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's encouraging to read your post, but can you give some advice on the best ways to get your son "seen", and recruited, if he's not a "stud"? Let's say he's a B to B+ player, on a B team, with a reputable travel program.
I've heard the best thing to do is to try to come up with 3 or 4 schools that he might want to go to, and send him to camps at those specific schools, if they have them.
I know there are showcases you can go to, but my son's only in 7th grade, so I'm not very familiar with them yet (is it Jake Reed, etc?). I think they're by invitation, or tryout, and they're probably geared toward the "studs" that you mentioned.
Other than that, I guess you have to be relentless with emailing coaches, sending them video, and hope that they'll come watch him play at one of the summer tournaments?
Any input, or serious advice, would be greatly appreciated (obviously, from you too CageSage!). Thanks.
I've heard the best thing to do is to try to come up with 3 or 4 schools that he might want to go to, and send him to camps at those specific schools, if they have them.
I know there are showcases you can go to, but my son's only in 7th grade, so I'm not very familiar with them yet (is it Jake Reed, etc?). I think they're by invitation, or tryout, and they're probably geared toward the "studs" that you mentioned.
Other than that, I guess you have to be relentless with emailing coaches, sending them video, and hope that they'll come watch him play at one of the summer tournaments?
Any input, or serious advice, would be greatly appreciated (obviously, from you too CageSage!). Thanks.
As a seventh grader (a Class of 2019 graduate), your student is still too young to qualify for individual showcases that we have posted here on BOTC from K&J/Red Storm, but the team might want to consider the Mustang Tournament in November. This would not necessarily be for recruiting your son, but rather to see how the recruitment process works in the older grades. Seeing a recruiting event in action, particularly here on Long Island, will greatly help your individual preparations.
Regarding mailing video, please note that the days of VHS tapes and DVD highlight discs are well and truly over. If you choose to do a highlight reel, distributing a 120-180 second clip as a YouTube (or similar) video is the most efficient way to e-mail coaches with your footage. Remember however that college coaches will rarely spend much time on such footage and will never make a recruiting decision based on the footage alone.
Finally, keep inviting coaches to tournaments with your schedules, travel directions, and details. While they will not respond to you due to NCAA Regulations, it is always possible that one coach will be at an event and stop by the field. Once, that happens, the entire team will get a lift and everyone will get more focused on controlling the rcruiting cycle.
We hope that these ideas help you and good luck as you start down the recruiting road.
(PS - Notice we never discussed which team you were representing, the club for which your son plays, or the cost of the program.)
Cage - Thanks very much for the advice, and informative response! Do you agree that travelling to summer camps at a few colleges he thinks he likes, might be the best way to get interest from coaches?
I second that thank you. How about "recruiting camps" referred to above? Can you(or anyone else) give thoughts on these camps? What camps? How does a kid get into the camps? Need coach recommendations? try-outs? sign-up? Thanks for any thoughts. Son a freshman in high school.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cage - Thanks very much for the advice, and informative response! Do you agree that travelling to summer camps at a few colleges he thinks he likes, might be the best way to get interest from coaches?
When heading into the High School years, our view slightly changes. Use the college camp circuit as an opportunity to further showcase your student-athlete's talent after the attending college coaches have specifically seen your son or daughter at a tournament or showcase event. Be sure that the coach has already placed your High School aged son or daughter on the recruiting radar before further considering a camp at the specific school. Obviously, all of this activity is contingent upon that particular university being in the Top Ten Academic and Athletic options being considered by the student-athlete and his/her family.
We hope that this information is helpful.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I second that thank you. How about "recruiting camps" referred to above? Can you(or anyone else) give thoughts on these camps? What camps? How does a kid get into the camps? Need coach recommendations? try-outs? sign-up? Thanks for any thoughts. Son a freshman in high school.
- Is my child considering being "away" from home or staying close? If living away from home, how far is acceptable? In my family, we set the Philadelphia/New [lacrosse]/Boston corridor as the core target of our search to give you an example of what we are implying.
- Where is your student-athlete's academic performance? If you are not currently on an AP-track or IB-track with your High School planning, that will imply that you will not be taking your school's most rigorous courses. Many colleges will take that into consideration along with your GPA in the academic process so when considering schools in the Top 50 Academically of US News and World Reports (just released the 2014 Edition), be sure to be realistic.
- Consult with the College Board web site on your PSAT or PLAN (pre-ACT) scores for possible admission to your target schools.
- What level of lacrosse can your student-athlete play? Watch some local college games, televised games, or attend a local showcase to gauge where your child's performance might be.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I second that thank you. How about "recruiting camps" referred to above? Can you(or anyone else) give thoughts on these camps? What camps? How does a kid get into the camps? Need coach recommendations? try-outs? sign-up? Thanks for any thoughts. Son a freshman in high school.
Caveat - my opinion:
Best individual showcases listed in order of importance (all invite-only, typically with coach recommendation required before invite):
Summer: Maverick Showcase, Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip, Black Card, Top 205
Fall: Philly Showcase, National 175, Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip
Aside from the individual showcases, it is critical to go to select college prospect days on campus at schools your son is interested in/where they have interest in him. This is where the relationships with coaches are deepened and you son can determine if he likes the school and coaches. Also, the showcases above are focused on D1 potential kids. There is a different list for D2/D3 potential kids. Hope this helps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I second that thank you. How about "recruiting camps" referred to above? Can you(or anyone else) give thoughts on these camps? What camps? How does a kid get into the camps? Need coach recommendations? try-outs? sign-up? Thanks for any thoughts. Son a freshman in high school.
Caveat - my opinion:
Best individual showcases listed in order of importance (all invite-only, typically with coach recommendation required before invite):
Summer: Maverick Showcase, Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip, Black Card, Top 205
Fall: Philly Showcase, National 175, Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip
Aside from the individual showcases, it is critical to go to select college prospect days on campus at schools your son is interested in/where they have interest in him. This is where the relationships with coaches are deepened and you son can determine if he likes the school and coaches. Also, the showcases above are focused on D1 potential kids. There is a different list for D2/D3 potential kids. Hope this helps.
Thank you very much for your opinion and suggestions. Any idea where I can find the list for D2/D3 type kids?
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cage - Thanks very much for the advice, and informative response! Do you agree that travelling to summer camps at a few colleges he thinks he likes, might be the best way to get interest from coaches?
When heading into the High School years, our view slightly changes. Use the college camp circuit as an opportunity to further showcase your student-athlete's talent after the attending college coaches have specifically seen your son or daughter at a tournament or showcase event. Be sure that the coach has already placed your High School aged son or daughter on the recruiting radar before further considering a camp at the specific school. Obviously, all of this activity is contingent upon that particular university being in the Top Ten Academic and Athletic options being considered by the student-athlete and his/her family.
We hope that this information is helpful.
Yes, it was extremely helpful, for my 7th grade son's situation, as was your advice to the parent with the 9th grader, which is my daughter's grade! Now I have to print these pages, so I can save them for future reference, as a guideline. There's so much to think about, it can make your head spin. This discussion, is a breath of fresh air compared to some of the TG vs YJ banter I'm used to seeing! Ha! Thanks again Cage!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't get sucked into the hype of any of these clubs or get hung up on which kid plays for what club. College coaches could care less what club team your sons play for - It makes absolutely no difference to them so don't drink the cool-aid of any program, including the Express. All the college coaches care about is your kid as an individual. He could play for the 3 stooges club located in tim-buk-to and it wouldn't matter as long as they see him and he's a stud he doesn't have to come from a well known program. The great majority of kids on D1 rosters played for club programs that you've never heard of. Go with the cheapest for some exposure and supplement with individual showcases and college prospect days. Trust me, I've just been through it.
You are correct, and thank you. Great post.
I just went through it as well. My son did not play for any of the "big" clubs, he is now recruited to an excellent D1 school with a very nice scholarship. He was seen at recruiting camps, not club play!
I tend to agree with the post. BUT..Your child is only going to get better if he plays with better players and gets better coaching. Most high schools do not provide one or the other or both.
The bigger clubs tend to get better players that help your child get better. Obviously there are exceptions, but this seems to be the trend over the past few years since we have become obsessed with getting our children some sort of scholarship for lacrosse.
makes me wonder what planet you people are living on. did you know that a fully funded program has 12.1 scholarships spread across the entire team? so you'e talking maybe 1/4 which doesn't account for much. most people will get more in financial aid packages based on income and need. stop talking about scholarship $$ because it makes you sound dumb. it's all about gettiing into a school that otherwise may be unreachable.
Actually it's 12.6 for boys and 12 for girls
Compared to 80 for D1 football...crazy!
The poster might have been off by .5 but his point is a valid one. It's all about getting into a better academic school, not scholarship $$. And don't really get your football point - conference make huge tv $$ plus they carry over 100 on their teams. Can't really compare.
My son is in the middle of it right now and i can say every situation is different and you need to be ready for everything. I know a 2015 and a 2013 that signed with Cornell that only played town team summer ball, both played for good high school programs and both had HS coaches that worked hard for them so they did not need "Elite Travel" that worked for them. I know a few kids that all the calls are going through an Express coach and I know others that all the calls went through the HS coach. Individual camps are the place to be found if you are not on the radar yet and making the all star game will put you on a lot of radar screens but if you are on the board they will come and see you whether it is with your elite summer team of your HS summer team and they may like a teammate better then the kid they came to see play. Play as much as you can in front of as many coaches as you can and play well when they come to see you play but there is no right and wrong it is part luck and part perseverance. In my own son's case he had a list of ten schools that he e-mailed from the beginning of last summer he is now down to three schools and only one was on the original list, the other two found him, so in our case all the e-mailing and sending highlight film was a waist of time, for others it might have been the most important thing so you never know
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is in the middle of it right now and i can say every situation is different and you need to be ready for everything. I know a 2015 and a 2013 that signed with Cornell that only played town team summer ball, both played for good high school programs and both had HS coaches that worked hard for them so they did not need "Elite Travel" that worked for them. I know a few kids that all the calls are going through an Express coach and I know others that all the calls went through the HS coach. Individual camps are the place to be found if you are not on the radar yet and making the all star game will put you on a lot of radar screens but if you are on the board they will come and see you whether it is with your elite summer team of your HS summer team and they may like a teammate better then the kid they came to see play. Play as much as you can in front of as many coaches as you can and play well when they come to see you play but there is no right and wrong it is part luck and part perseverance. In my own son's case he had a list of ten schools that he e-mailed from the beginning of last summer he is now down to three schools and only one was on the original list, the other two found him, so in our case all the e-mailing and sending highlight film was a waist of time, for others it might have been the most important thing so you never know
appreciate your insight but you sound like running for office!! "I did this, but you should try that! " Give me a break. Get a backbone. Don't waste or mislead our time with your opinion if you're not willing to be truthful. Especially about "town players". NO ONE CARES IF YoU PLAY ON TOWN TEAMS. Town teams just don't get the exposure to the TOP coaches from the TOP teams.. But then again, everything is relative. Just saying.
I say PICK YOUR SCHOOLS REALISTICALLY, AKA ACADEMICS. Form your list. From there contact coaches and put on full court press. You're wasting your time if you are approaching schools not in your son's hemisphere academically.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I second that thank you. How about "recruiting camps" referred to above? Can you(or anyone else) give thoughts on these camps? What camps? How does a kid get into the camps? Need coach recommendations? try-outs? sign-up? Thanks for any thoughts. Son a freshman in high school.
Caveat - my opinion:
Best individual showcases listed in order of importance (all invite-only, typically with coach recommendation required before invite):
Summer: Maverick Showcase, Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip, Black Card, Top 205
Fall: Philly Showcase, National 175, Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip
Aside from the individual showcases, it is critical to go to select college prospect days on campus at schools your son is interested in/where they have interest in him. This is where the relationships with coaches are deepened and you son can determine if he likes the school and coaches. Also, the showcases above are focused on D1 potential kids. There is a different list for D2/D3 potential kids. Hope this helps.
Where do we find the list for D2/D3 potential kids?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Aside from the individual showcases, it is critical to go to select college prospect days on campus at schools your son is interested in/where they have interest in him. This is where the relationships with coaches are deepened and you son can determine if he likes the school and coaches. Also, the showcases above are focused on D1 potential kids. There is a different list for D2/D3 potential kids. Hope this helps.
Where do we find the list for D2/D3 potential kids?
We believe that this process is completely backwards. While it might feel logical, this is self-selecting a school based on the wrong criteria : what adult coaches attended a showcase event.
Start by identifying the schools in which you have a genuine interest using resources such as College Board (academic filtering) or the NCAA web site (athletics filtering). If you arm yourself with a target listing, you can begin to ask the coaches at those schools where there will be recruiting over the next year. Alternatively, you can look at many showcase web sites and see the coaches that attended the previous year.
In short, there is no web site (of which we are aware) dedicated to Division II and Division III lacrosse recruiting. (Ironically, there is one for Division III men's and women's soccer, but not lacrosse as yet.) Therefore, some additional legwork is needed by parents to walk this path, but the work put into the process will better prepare you for the recruiting efforts ahead.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I second that thank you. How about "recruiting camps" referred to above? Can you(or anyone else) give thoughts on these camps? What camps? How does a kid get into the camps? Need coach recommendations? try-outs? sign-up? Thanks for any thoughts. Son a freshman in high school.
Caveat - my opinion:
Best individual showcases listed in order of importance (all invite-only, typically with coach recommendation required before invite):
Summer: Maverick Showcase, Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip, Black Card, Top 205
Fall: Philly Showcase, National 175, Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip
Aside from the individual showcases, it is critical to go to select college prospect days on campus at schools your son is interested in/where they have interest in him. This is where the relationships with coaches are deepened and you son can determine if he likes the school and coaches. Also, the showcases above are focused on D1 potential kids. There is a different list for D2/D3 potential kids. Hope this helps.
Where do we find the list for D2/D3 potential kids?
The Sting have a proven track record of helping players with recruiting towards D3 high academic standard schools
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sting have a proven track record of helping players with recruiting towards D3 high academic standard schools
From this list, Tufts is the only University and ranks 28th is the US News and World Reports rankings.
Among liberal arts colleges, Williams (#1), Amherst (#2), Middlebury (#4), and Bowdoin (#6) are the HYPS of this class of school.
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(*) = [Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, Wesleyan], Bates, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury, Trinity, Tufts, Connecticut College
[] = Founding Four Members of NESCAC
Besides, how can you not like an athletic conference that includes the Lord Jeffs, the Ephs, the Jumbos, the Camels, the White Mules, the Continentals, and the Polar Bears?
Side note #1 : For those who do not know, the Tufts University teams are known as the "Jumbos". This comes from their founding based on a major grant from P.T. Barnum (yes, of circus fame).
Side note #2 : It is not unusual to see the school newspaper with sports headlines such as "Jumbo Women Roll Over Competition in <Your Sport Here>".
Side note #1 : For those who do not know, the Tufts University teams are known as the "Jumbos". This comes from their founding based on a major grant from P.T. Barnum (yes, of circus fame).
Side note #2 : It is not unusual to see the school newspaper with sports headlines such as "Jumbo Women Roll Over Competition in <Your Sport Here>".
Thanks much Cage - great advice.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is in the middle of it right now and i can say every situation is different and you need to be ready for everything. I know a 2015 and a 2013 that signed with Cornell that only played town team summer ball, both played for good high school programs and both had HS coaches that worked hard for them so they did not need "Elite Travel" that worked for them. I know a few kids that all the calls are going through an Express coach and I know others that all the calls went through the HS coach. Individual camps are the place to be found if you are not on the radar yet and making the all star game will put you on a lot of radar screens but if you are on the board they will come and see you whether it is with your elite summer team of your HS summer team and they may like a teammate better then the kid they came to see play. Play as much as you can in front of as many coaches as you can and play well when they come to see you play but there is no right and wrong it is part luck and part perseverance. In my own son's case he had a list of ten schools that he e-mailed from the beginning of last summer he is now down to three schools and only one was on the original list, the other two found him, so in our case all the e-mailing and sending highlight film was a waist of time, for others it might have been the most important thing so you never know
appreciate your insight but you sound like running for office!! "I did this, but you should try that! " Give me a break. Get a backbone. Don't waste or mislead our time with your opinion if you're not willing to be truthful. Especially about "town players". NO ONE CARES IF YoU PLAY ON TOWN TEAMS. Town teams just don't get the exposure to the TOP coaches from the TOP teams.. But then again, everything is relative. Just saying.
I say PICK YOUR SCHOOLS REALISTICALLY, AKA ACADEMICS. Form your list. From there contact coaches and put on full court press. You're wasting your time if you are approaching schools not in your son's hemisphere academically.
I think you should read the post a little more carefully. The OP prefaces the post with "every situation is different and you need to be ready for everything". How is that lacking backbone? Should he have said "this is what I did so you need to do the same"? Are you looking for a step-by-step recipe? He gave some examples of those different situations. They may or may not have been helpful to you but how were they not truthful?
"Town teams just don't get the exposure to the TOP coaches from the TOP teams." Again, that is not what he said. He said that the players came from a town team but had a strong HS program and coach that worked hard for them, as opposed to an elite club. There are also strong town programs that feed into strong HS programs. Many players (I know of 3) used this path. Again, your mileage may very.
I do agree with you that you need to be realistic about the academics but I also agree with the OP that you need to be aware that there different means to an end and you need to be flexible.
Just saying...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is in the middle of it right now and i can say every situation is different and you need to be ready for everything. I know a 2015 and a 2013 that signed with Cornell that only played town team summer ball, both played for good high school programs and both had HS coaches that worked hard for them so they did not need "Elite Travel" that worked for them. I know a few kids that all the calls are going through an Express coach and I know others that all the calls went through the HS coach. Individual camps are the place to be found if you are not on the radar yet and making the all star game will put you on a lot of radar screens but if you are on the board they will come and see you whether it is with your elite summer team of your HS summer team and they may like a teammate better then the kid they came to see play. Play as much as you can in front of as many coaches as you can and play well when they come to see you play but there is no right and wrong it is part luck and part perseverance. In my own son's case he had a list of ten schools that he e-mailed from the beginning of last summer he is now down to three schools and only one was on the original list, the other two found him, so in our case all the e-mailing and sending highlight film was a waist of time, for others it might have been the most important thing so you never know
appreciate your insight but you sound like running for office!! "I did this, but you should try that! " Give me a break. Get a backbone. Don't waste or mislead our time with your opinion if you're not willing to be truthful. Especially about "town players". NO ONE CARES IF YoU PLAY ON TOWN TEAMS. Town teams just don't get the exposure to the TOP coaches from the TOP teams.. But then again, everything is relative. Just saying.
I say PICK YOUR SCHOOLS REALISTICALLY, AKA ACADEMICS. Form your list. From there contact coaches and put on full court press. You're wasting your time if you are approaching schools not in your son's hemisphere academically.
I think you should read the post a little more carefully. The OP prefaces the post with "every situation is different and you need to be ready for everything". How is that lacking backbone? Should he have said "this is what I did so you need to do the same"? Are you looking for a step-by-step recipe? He gave some examples of those different situations. They may or may not have been helpful to you but how were they not truthful?
"Town teams just don't get the exposure to the TOP coaches from the TOP teams." Again, that is not what he said. He said that the players came from a town team but had a strong HS program and coach that worked hard for them, as opposed to an elite club. There are also strong town programs that feed into strong HS programs. Many players (I know of 3) used this path. Again, your mileage may very.
I do agree with you that you need to be realistic about the academics but I also agree with the OP that you need to be aware that there different means to an end and you need to be flexible.
Just saying...
If you are a strong D-1 level athlete it doesn't matter where you go, the coaches will find you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is in the middle of it right now and i can say every situation is different and you need to be ready for everything. I know a 2015 and a 2013 that signed with Cornell that only played town team summer ball, both played for good high school programs and both had HS coaches that worked hard for them so they did not need "Elite Travel" that worked for them. I know a few kids that all the calls are going through an Express coach and I know others that all the calls went through the HS coach. Individual camps are the place to be found if you are not on the radar yet and making the all star game will put you on a lot of radar screens but if you are on the board they will come and see you whether it is with your elite summer team of your HS summer team and they may like a teammate better then the kid they came to see play. Play as much as you can in front of as many coaches as you can and play well when they come to see you play but there is no right and wrong it is part luck and part perseverance. In my own son's case he had a list of ten schools that he e-mailed from the beginning of last summer he is now down to three schools and only one was on the original list, the other two found him, so in our case all the e-mailing and sending highlight film was a waist of time, for others it might have been the most important thing so you never know
appreciate your insight but you sound like running for office!! "I did this, but you should try that! " Give me a break. Get a backbone. Don't waste or mislead our time with your opinion if you're not willing to be truthful. Especially about "town players". NO ONE CARES IF YoU PLAY ON TOWN TEAMS. Town teams just don't get the exposure to the TOP coaches from the TOP teams.. But then again, everything is relative. Just saying.
I say PICK YOUR SCHOOLS REALISTICALLY, AKA ACADEMICS. Form your list. From there contact coaches and put on full court press. You're wasting your time if you are approaching schools not in your son's hemisphere academically.
I wrote the original post and I would like to add this - my son was seen at Jake Reed, Maverick Showtime and UA tryouts as well as summer tournaments with both his travel team and his HS summer team and every e-mail we sent out included the name - e-mail and phone for both his club and HS coach, he has been contacted by more the 10 D1 schools and "Recruited" by 3 schools that would be considered top 10 programs and every one of the schools contacted his HS coach and not a single one contacted his club coach.
Personally I would never have given up the club experience because it was fun and he got to play with and become friends with kids he never would have met while also playing great lacrosse with exceptional players but it is way to soon to discount HS summer teams and HS coaches.
Again, I would say to try and figure out what works best for your particular situation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is in the middle of it right now and i can say every situation is different and you need to be ready for everything. I know a 2015 and a 2013 that signed with Cornell that only played town team summer ball, both played for good high school programs and both had HS coaches that worked hard for them so they did not need "Elite Travel" that worked for them. I know a few kids that all the calls are going through an Express coach and I know others that all the calls went through the HS coach. Individual camps are the place to be found if you are not on the radar yet and making the all star game will put you on a lot of radar screens but if you are on the board they will come and see you whether it is with your elite summer team of your HS summer team and they may like a teammate better then the kid they came to see play. Play as much as you can in front of as many coaches as you can and play well when they come to see you play but there is no right and wrong it is part luck and part perseverance. In my own son's case he had a list of ten schools that he e-mailed from the beginning of last summer he is now down to three schools and only one was on the original list, the other two found him, so in our case all the e-mailing and sending highlight film was a waist of time, for others it might have been the most important thing so you never know
appreciate your insight but you sound like running for office!! "I did this, but you should try that! " Give me a break. Get a backbone. Don't waste or mislead our time with your opinion if you're not willing to be truthful. Especially about "town players". NO ONE CARES IF YoU PLAY ON TOWN TEAMS. Town teams just don't get the exposure to the TOP coaches from the TOP teams.. But then again, everything is relative. Just saying.
I say PICK YOUR SCHOOLS REALISTICALLY, AKA ACADEMICS. Form your list. From there contact coaches and put on full court press. You're wasting your time if you are approaching schools not in your son's hemisphere academically.
I wrote the original post and I would like to add this - my son was seen at Jake Reed, Maverick Showtime and UA tryouts as well as summer tournaments with both his travel team and his HS summer team and every e-mail we sent out included the name - e-mail and phone for both his club and HS coach, he has been contacted by more the 10 D1 schools and "Recruited" by 3 schools that would be considered top 10 programs and every one of the schools contacted his HS coach and not a single one contacted his club coach.
Personally I would never have given up the club experience because it was fun and he got to play with and become friends with kids he never would have met while also playing great lacrosse with exceptional players but it is way to soon to discount HS summer teams and HS coaches.
Again, I would say to try and figure out what works best for your particular situation.
The same exact thing happened to my son, minus Jake Reed and UA. He had tons of interest and committed to a top program with a very good scholarship (much more than expected!) . All commuication was through HS coach.
Are the Express 2017 Wolverines an A,B,orC team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are the Express 2017 Wolverines an A,B,orC team?
Last summer the 2017 express pecking order was:
A- Turtles
B- Terps Black
C- Terps
D- Wolverines
E- Piranas
May be different this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are the Express 2017 Wolverines an A,B,orC team?
Last summer the 2017 express pecking order was:
A- Turtles
B- Terps Black
C- Terps
D- Wolverines
E- Piranas
May be different this year.
This is the correct order:
A- Turtles
B- Terps Black
C- Terps
D- Piranas
E- Wolverines
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are the Express 2017 Wolverines an A,B,orC team?
Last summer the 2017 express pecking order was:
A- Turtles
B- Terps Black
C- Terps
D- Wolverines
E- Piranas
May be different this year.
This is the correct order:
A- Turtles
B- Terps Black
C- Terps
D- Piranas
E- Wolverines
and with that the message will now start on how Turtles are not Express. It will be like reading posts from 6 months ago all over again
Kind of silly because the 5th grade A team is call the Wolverines. Orange, Blue and White was a lot easier.
They're saying this years 2 2021 are 2 A teams - starting all over because the A team was terrible and the B team even worse. Blew up last years B team and bringning in all new boys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They're saying this years 2 2021 are 2 A teams - starting all over because the A team was terrible and the B team even worse. Blew up last years B team and bringning in all new boys.
I dont care what they are saying. the B team was horrid last year and suddenly we are supposed to believe they have two A teams ? Every organization says that crap . MEanwhile the playing time situation on the A team was ridiculous and half the teams left. SOme good players that other clubs pursued hard
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They're saying this years 2 2021 are 2 A teams - starting all over because the A team was terrible and the B team even worse. Blew up last years B team and bringning in all new boys.
I dont care what they are saying. the B team was horrid last year and suddenly we are supposed to believe they have two A teams ? Every organization says that crap . MEanwhile the playing time situation on the A team was ridiculous and half the teams left. SOme good players that other clubs pursued hard
Beware. I know kids that were "B" players who did turn down Express to play for other clubs.
Heard an Express 2017 committed
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard an Express 2017 committed
Wow, you're up late, patting yourself on the back
Until his SAT scores come in, then he will have to de-commit
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Until his SAT scores come in, then he will have to de-commit
What is wrong with you?
not talking about the actual kid, talking about early committing before these kids actually take SAT/ACT. Parents are allowing their kids to commit too early.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Until his SAT scores come in, then he will have to de-commit
What is wrong with you?
Not my son, He is a sophomore with a guaranteed ATHLETIC scholarship that can't change, to a top school (Not Ivy) we negotiated very carefully to ensure his success! Committing to an Ivy is very risky, unless it's the right kid!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not my son, He is a sophomore with a guaranteed ATHLETIC scholarship that can't change, to a top school (Not Ivy) we negotiated very carefully to ensure his success! Committing to an Ivy is very risky, unless it's the right kid!
[1] Injury : Any type of injury could eliminate this guaranteed athletic scholarship. Academic money will not disappear as easily.
[2] Golden Tickets and Academics : Ivy League coaches will have golden tickets that allow them to walk specific players through admissions (via a "likely letter") who are on the margin. Expect that an Ivy coach will have no more than three such admission waivers available. Striving for an Ivy education is wonderful if your student-athlete can actually complete the academics. (Hint : If you are not tasting your first Advanced Placement courses as a sophomore, you are behind the curve academically.)
[3] Athletic Money : Ivy League teams do not have money for lacrosse - so the angle has to be about the academics quality.
[4] Guarantees and NLIs : Fourth and most importantly, while it might be comforting to point to your negotiations and guarantees, nothing and we mean nothing is guaranteed without a National Letter of Intent. BOTC just wants you to be very clear about what the word guarantee actually means in this context.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not my son, He is a sophomore with a guaranteed ATHLETIC scholarship that can't change, to a top school (Not Ivy) we negotiated very carefully to ensure his success! Committing to an Ivy is very risky, unless it's the right kid!
[1] Injury : Any type of injury could eliminate this guaranteed athletic scholarship. Academic money will not disappear as easily.
[2] Golden Tickets and Academics : Ivy League coaches will have golden tickets that allow them to walk specific players through admissions (via a "likely letter") who are on the margin. Expect that an Ivy coach will have no more than three such admission waivers available. Striving for an Ivy education is wonderful if your student-athlete can actually complete the academics. (Hint : If you are not tasting your first Advanced Placement courses as a sophomore, you are behind the curve academically.)
[3] Athletic Money : Ivy League teams do not have money for lacrosse - so the angle has to be about the academics quality.
[4] Guarantees and NLIs : Fourth and most importantly, while it might be comforting to point to your negotiations and guarantees, nothing and we mean nothing is guaranteed without a National Letter of Intent. BOTC just wants you to be very clear about what the word guarantee actually means in this context.
I must disagree with a number of your statements. It does vary by school but the school we committed to which is a top 10 program and top 40 Nationally ranked college, stated that the scholarship offered will not change from the verbal agreement. It can only go higher based on performance. SAT requirements are quite reasonable. Injury will not affect scholarship. We were assured that they committed to our son. Coaches were very firm about that. Research has also shown us that it is extremely rare for a school to rescind a verbal agreement. I could not even find one instance where it actually happened. What does happen, is kids decommit due to a variety of reasons. The only thing that could affect the agreement is questionable moral behavior (arrest, ect) Or failure to maintain reasonable GPA. Every school and kid are different in what they offer. Some people are looking for their above average (not top) kid to walk into an Ivy, that happens , but be prepared to pay big $$. We were looking for a substantial financial package. was a win-win for us, my son, and the awesome school he committed to.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I must disagree with a number of your statements. It does vary by school but the school we committed to which is a top 10 program and top 40 Nationally ranked college, stated that the scholarship offered will not change from the verbal agreement. It can only go higher based on performance. SAT requirements are quite reasonable. Injury will not affect scholarship. We were assured that they committed to our son. Coaches were very firm about that. Research has also shown us that it is extremely rare for a school to rescind a verbal agreement. I could not even find one instance where it actually happened. What does happen, is kids decommit due to a variety of reasons. The only thing that could affect the agreement is questionable moral behavior (arrest, ect) Or failure to maintain reasonable GPA. Every school and kid are different in what they offer. Some people are looking for their above average (not top) kid to walk into an Ivy, that happens , but be prepared to pay big $$. We were looking for a substantial financial package. was a win-win for us, my son, and the awesome school he committed to.
You are correct when you say that verbal offers are rarely withdrawn. We did however want to caution you that there is ground to cover over the next two years that can occasionally alter the best laid plans.
Congratulations and good luck with your student-athlete's collegiate selection and remaining scholastic years.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I must disagree with a number of your statements. It does vary by school but the school we committed to which is a top 10 program and top 40 Nationally ranked college, stated that the scholarship offered will not change from the verbal agreement. It can only go higher based on performance. SAT requirements are quite reasonable. Injury will not affect scholarship. We were assured that they committed to our son. Coaches were very firm about that. Research has also shown us that it is extremely rare for a school to rescind a verbal agreement. I could not even find one instance where it actually happened. What does happen, is kids decommit due to a variety of reasons. The only thing that could affect the agreement is questionable moral behavior (arrest, ect) Or failure to maintain reasonable GPA. Every school and kid are different in what they offer. Some people are looking for their above average (not top) kid to walk into an Ivy, that happens , but be prepared to pay big $$. We were looking for a substantial financial package. was a win-win for us, my son, and the awesome school he committed to.
You are correct when you say that verbal offers are rarely withdrawn. We did however want to caution you that there is ground to cover over the next two years that can occasionally alter the best laid plans.
Congratulations and good luck with your student-athlete's collegiate selection and remaining scholastic years.
Thanks Cage, I do appreciate your insight. This process has been quite challenging, constantly wondering if the right decision was made. There was a tremendous amount of hard work and dedication on the part of my son and our entire family. We will all continue to work hard fulfilling our end of the agreement. This is the time to work harder than ever before, and we consider ourselves one of the lucky ones going through this process.
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I must disagree with a number of your statements. It does vary by school but the school we committed to which is a top 10 program and top 40 Nationally ranked college, stated that the scholarship offered will not change from the verbal agreement. It can only go higher based on performance. SAT requirements are quite reasonable. Injury will not affect scholarship. We were assured that they committed to our son. Coaches were very firm about that. Research has also shown us that it is extremely rare for a school to rescind a verbal agreement. I could not even find one instance where it actually happened. What does happen, is kids decommit due to a variety of reasons. The only thing that could affect the agreement is questionable moral behavior (arrest, ect) Or failure to maintain reasonable GPA. Every school and kid are different in what they offer. Some people are looking for their above average (not top) kid to walk into an Ivy, that happens , but be prepared to pay big $$. We were looking for a substantial financial package. was a win-win for us, my son, and the awesome school he committed to.
You are correct when you say that verbal offers are rarely withdrawn. We did however want to caution you that there is ground to cover over the next two years that can occasionally alter the best laid plans.
Congratulations and good luck with your student-athlete's collegiate selection and remaining scholastic years.
We have been close to it already and have close friends that have been through it CAGE is right. I wish you well but you newbies touting firm offers early is just not accurate until you sign
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I must disagree with a number of your statements. It does vary by school but the school we committed to which is a top 10 program and top 40 Nationally ranked college, stated that the scholarship offered will not change from the verbal agreement. It can only go higher based on performance. SAT requirements are quite reasonable. Injury will not affect scholarship. We were assured that they committed to our son. Coaches were very firm about that. Research has also shown us that it is extremely rare for a school to rescind a verbal agreement. I could not even find one instance where it actually happened. What does happen, is kids decommit due to a variety of reasons. The only thing that could affect the agreement is questionable moral behavior (arrest, ect) Or failure to maintain reasonable GPA. Every school and kid are different in what they offer. Some people are looking for their above average (not top) kid to walk into an Ivy, that happens , but be prepared to pay big $$. We were looking for a substantial financial package. was a win-win for us, my son, and the awesome school he committed to.
You are correct when you say that verbal offers are rarely withdrawn. We did however want to caution you that there is ground to cover over the next two years that can occasionally alter the best laid plans.
Congratulations and good luck with your student-athlete's collegiate selection and remaining scholastic years.
We have been close to it already and have close friends that have been through it CAGE is right. I wish you well but you newbies touting firm offers early is just not accurate until you sign
It is wonderful that you got a great deal. Keep playing well and studying hard and it will all work out.
To shift gears and share some positive experiences. The Express has really done well coming out of the tryouts. They have had several practices already and are really, really organized. My son's team alone has had 4 practices already. And it's been nice to have several teams practicing in one location (Mitchell Field) with several directors there, who were all accessible and willing to talk with parents. This has been the seen the last 3 weekends. Great start - keep it going Express.
You forgot to tell everyone that it cost $850 for one practice a week and 3 tournaments that cost a combined 2,000. Toury fee . Please I would be shaking your hand also. We are all idiots,
You're wrong. It's one practice a week for 3 weeks and then switches to 2X a week with 4 tournaments. It's worth the $850 for us.
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You forgot to tell everyone that it cost $850 for one practice a week and 3 tournaments that cost a combined 2,000. Toury fee . Please I would be shaking your hand also. We are all idiots,
Ha... I try and forget that part of it and just hope my son is learning the game and enjoying it. So far, yes to both. And there was option to not play the fall.
Express 2016 top lefty attack from Manhasset just committed to Duke! Well deserved!
Manhasset 2016 Top Lefty Attackman
So which is it an express 2016 or manhasset 2016.
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So which is it an express 2016 or manhasset 2016.
Both but if he was in the grade that applies to his age, he would be a junior or class of 2015.
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So which is it an express 2016 or manhasset 2016.
Both, however Express was responsible for getting the kid noticed. So I would say Express deserves the bulk of the credit. Of course the kid is a great player but so are alot of others. Connections matter!!
Both, however Express was responsible for getting the kid noticed. So I would say Express deserves the bulk of the credit. Of course the kid is a great player but so are alot of others. Connections matter!!
wolverines piranahs terps...... are they like 91 teams extreme orange white???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So which is it an express 2016 or manhasset 2016.
Both, however Express was responsible for getting the kid noticed. So I would say Express deserves the bulk of the credit. Of course the kid is a great player but so are alot of others. Connections matter!!
Both, however Express was responsible for getting the kid noticed. So I would say Express deserves the bulk of the credit. Of course the kid is a great player but so are alot of others. Connections matter!!
You don't suppose playing and often starting on MHS Varsity had to do anything with his being recruited?!
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wolverines piranahs terps...... are they like 91 teams extreme orange white???
Depends on year. Express and 91 are now mixing up the team names and order of strenght. This Year for 2018 Express its Terps, Wolverines, and Piranahas. For 2018 91 its Extreme, Orange, White, Stampede.
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
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Express 2016 top lefty attack from Manhasset just committed to Duke! Well deserved!
The original post clearly states that the boy is from Manhasset. The fact is that he plays for his HS Team and for a Club Team (The Long Island Express). The original post did not attempt to deminish the fact that he played for his HS Team.
Why do the "town folk" want so badly to deminish the value of playing for express? Why the Hate?
Be happy for the boy.
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Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
He did not start his 1st varsity game. After posting 4 goals, 1 assist in that game he was inserted in the starting line-up in his 2nd varsity game against John Jay and started the rest of the season.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express 2016 top lefty attack from Manhasset just committed to Duke! Well deserved!
The original post clearly states that the boy is from Manhasset. The fact is that he plays for his HS Team and for a Club Team (The Long Island Express). The original post did not attempt to deminish the fact that he played for his HS Team.
Why do the "town folk" want so badly to deminish the value of playing for express? Why the Hate?
Be happy for the boy.
I am happy for the boy. However, if your spelling is any indication of what a typical express player is capable of, he won't be able to make the grade at Duke! Diminish, not "deminish."
BTW I am a big believer in Express and the other clubs and the opportunity they create for the boys. However, there seemed to be an inference that MHS had absolutely nothing to do with his being recruited. The fact that he has been able to succeed at the club AND the high school level is what drew Duke to him. Plus having good grades at a good high school!
Plus the fact that he is a year older than the boys he competes against.
The original post clearly states that the boy is from Manhasset. The fact is that he plays for his HS Team and for a Club Team (The Long Island Express). The original post did not attempt to deminish the fact that he played for his HS Team.
Why do the "town folk" want so badly to deminish the value of playing for express? Why the Hate?
Be happy for the boy.
I am happy for the boy. However, if your spelling is any indication of what a typical express player is capable of, he won't be able to make the grade at Duke! Diminish, not "deminish."
BTW I am a big believer in Express and the other clubs and the opportunity they create for the boys. However, there seemed to be an inference that MHS had absolutely nothing to do with his being recruited. The fact that he has been able to succeed at the club AND the high school level is what drew Duke to him. Plus having good grades at a good high school!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express 2016 top lefty attack from Manhasset just committed to Duke! Well deserved!
The original post clearly states that the boy is from Manhasset. The fact is that he plays for his HS Team and for a Club Team (The Long Island Express). The original post did not attempt to deminish the fact that he played for his HS Team.
Why do the "town folk" want so badly to deminish the value of playing for express? Why the Hate?
Be happy for the boy.
I am happy for the boy. However, if your spelling is any indication of what a typical express player is capable of, he won't be able to make the grade at Duke! Diminish, not "deminish."
BTW I am a big believer in Express and the other clubs and the opportunity they create for the boys. However, there seemed to be an inference that MHS had absolutely nothing to do with his being recruited. The fact that he has been able to succeed at the club AND the high school level is what drew Duke to him. Plus having good grades at a good high school!
just curious what team or club did he play for in 4th grade?
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Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
Not to mention two other attack lefties from Set that aren't too shabby and are playing at private high schools. One of them might even start for Chammy varsity this year and committed to Colgate. Definately something in the water in Jim Brown country.
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Plus the fact that he is a year older than the boys he competes against.
The original post clearly states that the boy is from Manhasset. The fact is that he plays for his HS Team and for a Club Team (The Long Island Express). The original post did not attempt to deminish the fact that he played for his HS Team.
Why do the "town folk" want so badly to deminish the value of playing for express? Why the Hate?
Be happy for the boy.
I am happy for the boy. However, if your spelling is any indication of what a typical express player is capable of, he won't be able to make the grade at Duke! Diminish, not "deminish."
BTW I am a big believer in Express and the other clubs and the opportunity they create for the boys. However, there seemed to be an inference that MHS had absolutely nothing to do with his being recruited. The fact that he has been able to succeed at the club AND the high school level is what drew Duke to him. Plus having good grades at a good high school!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express 2016 top lefty attack from Manhasset just committed to Duke! Well deserved!
The original post clearly states that the boy is from Manhasset. The fact is that he plays for his HS Team and for a Club Team (The Long Island Express). The original post did not attempt to deminish the fact that he played for his HS Team.
Why do the "town folk" want so badly to deminish the value of playing for express? Why the Hate?
Be happy for the boy.
I am happy for the boy. However, if your spelling is any indication of what a typical express player is capable of, he won't be able to make the grade at Duke! Diminish, not "deminish."
BTW I am a big believer in Express and the other clubs and the opportunity they create for the boys. However, there seemed to be an inference that MHS had absolutely nothing to do with his being recruited. The fact that he has been able to succeed at the club AND the high school level is what drew Duke to him. Plus having good grades at a good high school!
You are all acting like a woman scorned!!! Grow up and just say congrats. You all are acting like sore losers. Sure makes one think twice about announcing a commitment ...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
Not to mention two other attack lefties from Set that aren't too shabby and are playing at private high schools. One of them might even start for Chammy varsity this year and committed to Colgate. Definately something in the water in Jim Brown country.
Surprised he didn't start on varsity, Manhasset isn't even that good. Not even a question that the kid got noticed through express. Stop it!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
Not to mention two other attack lefties from Set that aren't too shabby and are playing at private high schools. One of them might even start for Chammy varsity this year and committed to Colgate. Definately something in the water in Jim Brown country.
With all of this talent at the same position you have to give credit to the youth program at Set - it doesn't just magically blossom when they put on an Express jersey. Happens way before that.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
Not to mention two other attack lefties from Set that aren't too shabby and are playing at private high schools. One of them might even start for Chammy varsity this year and committed to Colgate. Definately something in the water in Jim Brown country.
Surprised he didn't start on varsity, Manhasset isn't even that good. Not even a question that the kid got noticed through express. Stop it!
Colgate not in same hemisphere as Duke. btw, hopefully they are starters if they are juniors at the nade...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
The one above is good and will team up with this boy to form one of the more formidable attack lines in high school next season. No clue who the one below is since there were no call ups to JV last year. Must of torn it up in Middle School
The one below is a righty but you can't tell. Great from both sides. He is good enough from the left to make you think he is a natural lefty.
The best players from set play for set!!! They are not at Chaminade or any other private school!!!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
The one above is good and will team up with this boy to form one of the more formidable attack lines in high school next season. No clue who the one below is since there were no call ups to JV last year. Must of torn it up in Middle School
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
Not to mention two other attack lefties from Set that aren't too shabby and are playing at private high schools. One of them might even start for Chammy varsity this year and committed to Colgate. Definately something in the water in Jim Brown country.
Surprised he didn't start on varsity, Manhasset isn't even that good. Not even a question that the kid got noticed through express. Stop it!
Colgate not in same hemisphere as Duke. btw, hopefully they are starters if they are juniors at the nade...
At set?...the chammy?...at the nade? Who talks like that?
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surprised he didn't start on varsity, Manhasset isn't even that good. Not even a question that the kid got noticed through express. Stop it!
Manhasset is one of the best teams in the country almost every year! That is considered not that good to you?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
The one above is good and will team up with this boy to form one of the more formidable attack lines in high school next season. No clue who the one below is since there were no call ups to JV last year. Must of torn it up in Middle School
The post was meant to congratulate the Duke committed sophomore player. Your opinion of the other lefty attackmen of Manhasset is irrelevant and should be discussed in a different forum. Many schools throughout LI have great lefty attacks, not just Manhasset. The post is acknowledging the huge role that LIE had in the process. And FYI, there is nothing "in the water". It's called natural talent combined with motivation and parental support (having the sense to join a great club team). Happens all over the Island as you can see from the list of commited sophomore players.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
Not to mention two other attack lefties from Set that aren't too shabby and are playing at private high schools. One of them might even start for Chammy varsity this year and committed to Colgate. Definately something in the water in Jim Brown country.
Surprised he didn't start on varsity, Manhasset isn't even that good. Not even a question that the kid got noticed through express. Stop it!
Colgate not in same hemisphere as Duke. btw, hopefully they are starters if they are juniors at the nade...
You are basing the quality of the school based on Lacrosse. Maybe Colgate is his academic school of choice based on the major this boy wants to pursue. My nephew who was a two time all-American is playing club ball at the school he chose because that school offered the major he wanted to pursue and does not have a varsity lacrosse team. In the end isn't it about preparing for the future? Not just lacrosse?
The one below is not an express kid. Everyone knows that
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
Not to mention two other attack lefties from Set that aren't too shabby and are playing at private high schools. One of them might even start for Chammy varsity this year and committed to Colgate. Definately something in the water in Jim Brown country.
Surprised he didn't start on varsity, Manhasset isn't even that good. Not even a question that the kid got noticed through express. Stop it!
Colgate not in same hemisphere as Duke. btw, hopefully they are starters if they are juniors at the nade...
You are basing the quality of the school based on Lacrosse. Maybe Colgate is his academic school of choice based on the major this boy wants to pursue. My nephew who was a two time all-American is playing club ball at the school he chose because that school offered the major he wanted to pursue and does not have a varsity lacrosse team. In the end isn't it about preparing for the future? Not just lacrosse?
Duke is not only better at lax (#1), but ranked #7 in US News and World reports for National Universities. Colgate is 20 in liberal arts schools and 31 in lax. What would your choice be if you had one? Lots of "good" schools to chose from, but some are just more presigious. I could see chosing a school that is ranked a little lower because they are offering a more subsantial scholarship, but with all things equal it's not really a question.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
surprised he didn't start on varsity, Manhasset isn't even that good. Not even a question that the kid got noticed through express. Stop it!
Manhasset is one of the best teams in the country almost every year! That is considered not that good to you?
Manhasset comes in at 254 in National ranking, so no, not that good, many other HSs on LI better!
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The best players from set play for set!!! They are not at Chaminade or any other private school!!!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
The one above is good and will team up with this boy to form one of the more formidable attack lines in high school next season. No clue who the one below is since there were no call ups to JV last year. Must of torn it up in Middle School
The post was meant to congratulate the Duke committed sophomore player. Your opinion of the other lefty attackmen of Manhasset is irrelevant and should be discussed in a different forum. Many schools throughout LI have great lefty attacks, not just Manhasset. The post is acknowledging the huge role that LIE had in the process. And FYI, there is nothing "in the water". It's called natural talent combined with motivation and parental support (having the sense to join a great club team). Happens all over the Island as you can see from the list of commited sophomore players.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
The one above is good and will team up with this boy to form one of the more formidable attack lines in high school next season. No clue who the one below is since there were no call ups to JV last year. Must of torn it up in Middle School
The post was meant to congratulate the Duke committed sophomore player. Your opinion of the other lefty attackmen of Manhasset is irrelevant and should be discussed in a different forum. Many schools throughout LI have great lefty attacks, not just Manhasset. The post is acknowledging the huge role that LIE had in the process. And FYI, there is nothing "in the water". It's called natural talent combined with motivation and parental support (having the sense to join a great club team). Happens all over the Island as you can see from the list of commited sophomore players.
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The one below is not an express kid. Everyone knows that
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The best players from set play for set!!! They are not at Chaminade or any other private school!!!
Your 'breves are noying. Lol
It's quite clear to me and any other business person. The clubs are seeing the writing on the wall and are afraid that over time with the emergence of prospect days, individual showcases, school teams playing summer etc. that they are becoming irrelevant and dis-intermediated. They are deathly afraid of other recruiting avenues emerging that are threatening big chunks of their profit pool. But they are their own worst enemy - with all of the greed and printing of so much money over the past few years - it was bound to happen that others would take notice and figure out a way to jump into that profit pool. Like the life cycle of all profitable industries, its now become saturated with new entrants and will go through a lot of upheaval as it matures. In the meantime, you'll just have to hold down your lunch reading the clubs' desparation and shameless marketing of recruits to keep milking the cow until its dead.
You are way off about the kids from Manhasset. The best players stay in Manhasset period. It has been that way for last several years. There is no need to go to Chaminade. There is no advantage particularly with college placement and you play for your community. It doesn't get better than that. If a few go to private schools to stay back a year so be it. But the best stay and will continue to stay. Because no advantage exists elsewhere. The budget issue will probably not happen again. People were complacent recently and they learned their lesson. As for as the young man headed to Duke. He deserve all the credit. No one else.
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The one below is not an express kid. Everyone knows that
Spoken like a proud daddy!
You have the wrong kid.
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Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
The one above is good and will team up with this boy to form one of the more formidable attack lines in high school next season. No clue who the one below is since there were no call ups to JV last year. Must of torn it up in Middle School
The post was meant to congratulate the Duke committed sophomore player. Your opinion of the other lefty attackmen of Manhasset is irrelevant and should be discussed in a different forum. Many schools throughout LI have great lefty attacks, not just Manhasset. The post is acknowledging the huge role that LIE had in the process. And FYI, there is nothing "in the water". It's called natural talent combined with motivation and parental support (having the sense to join a great club team). Happens all over the Island as you can see from the list of commited sophomore players.
Actually, now that you mention it, the schools ALWAY take credit for where the kids go, including Manhasset. It's listed in graduation propaganda from every high school. So when multiple kids go to let's say Ivy's from one grade, same school, the school says it's because of the stellar academics. But for the most part it's sports related.
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Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
The one above is good and will team up with this boy to form one of the more formidable attack lines in high school next season. No clue who the one below is since there were no call ups to JV last year. Must of torn it up in Middle School
The post was meant to congratulate the Duke committed sophomore player. Your opinion of the other lefty attackmen of Manhasset is irrelevant and should be discussed in a different forum. Many schools throughout LI have great lefty attacks, not just Manhasset. The post is acknowledging the huge role that LIE had in the process. And FYI, there is nothing "in the water". It's called natural talent combined with motivation and parental support (having the sense to join a great club team). Happens all over the Island as you can see from the list of commited sophomore players.
You are correct!
It was the boys talent that got him noticed.
Stop pushing the HS/Town BS. Like it or not the boy played for The Express as well as his High School.
The family made a decision and it looks like it worked out for them. Why do you want to insist that his experience with Express is irrelevant? I guess that you would say that playing for the express had nothing to do with him developing as a player.
People with the Stay Home only mentality are going be the downfall of Long Island Lacrosse Talent. You may not want to admit it but both the club and the town/HS program contributed to this players development.
The most important piece of the puzzle is the boy, he is the one who did all of the heavy lifting and we now see the result of his work. I wish the haters of all things club would stop the nonsense. You do not have to have your son play for a club but is wrong to want to restrict others from broadening their lacrosse experience.
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You are way off about the kids from Manhasset. The best players stay in Manhasset period. It has been that way for last several years. There is no need to go to Chaminade. There is no advantage particularly with college placement and you play for your community. It doesn't get better than that. If a few go to private schools to stay back a year so be it. But the best stay and will continue to stay. Because no advantage exists elsewhere. The budget issue will probably not happen again. People were complacent recently and they learned their lesson. As for as the young man headed to Duke. He deserve all the credit. No one else.
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The one below is not an express kid. Everyone knows that
this parent is refering to his son on fl$
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Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
The one above is good and will team up with this boy to form one of the more formidable attack lines in high school next season. No clue who the one below is since there were no call ups to JV last year. Must of torn it up in Middle School
The post was meant to congratulate the Duke committed sophomore player. Your opinion of the other lefty attackmen of Manhasset is irrelevant and should be discussed in a different forum. Many schools throughout LI have great lefty attacks, not just Manhasset. The post is acknowledging the huge role that LIE had in the process. And FYI, there is nothing "in the water". It's called natural talent combined with motivation and parental support (having the sense to join a great club team). Happens all over the Island as you can see from the list of commited sophomore players.
You are correct!
It was the boys talent that got him noticed.
Stop pushing the HS/Town BS. Like it or not the boy played for The Express as well as his High School.
The family made a decision and it looks like it worked out for them. Why do you want to insist that his experience with Express is irrelevant? I guess that you would say that playing for the express had nothing to do with him developing as a player.
People with the Stay Home only mentality are going be the downfall of Long Island Lacrosse Talent. You may not want to admit it but both the club and the town/HS program contributed to this players development.
The most important piece of the puzzle is the boy, he is the one who did all of the heavy lifting and we now see the result of his work. I wish the haters of all things club would stop the nonsense. You do not have to have your son play for a club but is wrong to want to restrict others from broadening their lacrosse experience.
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It's quite clear to me and any other business person. The clubs are seeing the writing on the wall and are afraid that over time with the emergence of prospect days, individual showcases, school teams playing summer etc. that they are becoming irrelevant and dis-intermediated. They are deathly afraid of other recruiting avenues emerging that are threatening big chunks of their profit pool. But they are their own worst enemy - with all of the greed and printing of so much money over the past few years - it was bound to happen that others would take notice and figure out a way to jump into that profit pool. Like the life cycle of all profitable industries, its now become saturated with new entrants and will go through a lot of upheaval as it matures. In the meantime, you'll just have to hold down your lunch reading the clubs' desparation and shameless marketing of recruits to keep milking the cow until its dead.
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Do a little research..rought up to varsity, did not start, did play and made a nice contribution. Express gave much more exposure leading to commitment !
This is an incredible story actually. Wasn't even a starter on JV this year and now look where he is. And isn't even the best lefty attack at Set - there are two (one above and one below) that some view as better depending on who you ask. What's in the water over there with lefty attacks?
The one above is good and will team up with this boy to form one of the more formidable attack lines in high school next season. No clue who the one below is since there were no call ups to JV last year. Must of torn it up in Middle School
The post was meant to congratulate the Duke committed sophomore player. Your opinion of the other lefty attackmen of Manhasset is irrelevant and should be discussed in a different forum. Many schools throughout LI have great lefty attacks, not just Manhasset. The post is acknowledging the huge role that LIE had in the process. And FYI, there is nothing "in the water". It's called natural talent combined with motivation and parental support (having the sense to join a great club team). Happens all over the Island as you can see from the list of commited sophomore players.
You are correct!
It was the boys talent that got him noticed.
Stop pushing the HS/Town BS. Like it or not the boy played for The Express as well as his High School.
The family made a decision and it looks like it worked out for them. Why do you want to insist that his experience with Express is irrelevant? I guess that you would say that playing for the express had nothing to do with him developing as a player.
People with the Stay Home only mentality are going be the downfall of Long Island Lacrosse Talent. You may not want to admit it but both the club and the town/HS program contributed to this players development.
The most important piece of the puzzle is the boy, he is the one who did all of the heavy lifting and we now see the result of his work. I wish the haters of all things club would stop the nonsense. You do not have to have your son play for a club but is wrong to want to restrict others from broadening their lacrosse experience.
For all the express haters , one thing you can't take away from them is they play the best competition out there. The school teams could never play the same quality of teams. The 2016 crabs, Dukes and the west coast starz can beat any high school varsity long island has to offer. I am sure all the elite camp invites came from express. Your town can never keep up with these elite programs. If so colleges would recruit teams not individual. Towns can never field teams like the express can and these elite teams only make a kid better
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The one below is not an express kid. Everyone knows that
this parent is refering to his son on fl$
That's a crock of you know what. I'd love to see the 15 & 16 yr old wunderkinds of the 2016 West Coast Stars try to take down GC's or Ward Melville's varsity. Ha, that would be laughable. Floral Park? - maybe. You need to come up for some fresh air and sunlight from the self-anointed "elite" club dungeon.
Best indicator of what the colleges think of the importance of clubs vs. what high school you play for? Count how many college rosters online show what club each player played for. Answer? 0. How many show what high school each player attended? Enough said. High school (including how you perform in that high school's classrooms) still matters much more than what club you play for. Always has been, always will be.
You are 100% correct. I know for a fact several kids on the Cudas got their Blue Chip invite strait from Channy. He also is well connected with all the best D1 coaches. If your kid has the talent, Express makes sure it is noticed. I have seen a few posts claiming it doesn' matter, that the kid will get noticed if he's good. I can say that that is not always the case, or it may take longer, and then the coveted "spots" are full on the rosters. If you can afford it, and your kid is good enough to make it. Then club such as Express or 91 increases the odds of getting recruited.
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Best indicator of what the colleges think of the importance of clubs vs. what high school you play for? Count how many college rosters online show what club each player played for. Answer? 0. How many show what high school each player attended? Enough said. High school (including how you perform in that high school's classrooms) still matters much more than what club you play for. Always has been, always will be.
Second, some colleges do post club material if tied to a noteworthy national or regional championship having been won. Without a national or regional league structure in lacrosse (as appears in sports like soccer), the likelihood of club recognition greatly decreases.
If the player is an elite player D1 coaches will find them in showcases, high school or summer tournaments. It has very little to do with what team you are on.
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That's a crock of you know what. I'd love to see the 15 & 16 yr old wunderkinds of the 2016 West Coast Stars try to take down GC's or Ward Melville's varsity. Ha, that would be laughable. Floral Park? - maybe. You need to come up for some fresh air and sunlight from the self-anointed "elite" club dungeon.
Don't blame the original poster - he's drunk too much Express Orange cool-aid and is too far gone. No West Coast 2016 diaper patrol is going to beat LI's best varsities. Please, put down the pipe.
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That's a crock of you know what. I'd love to see the 15 & 16 yr old wunderkinds of the 2016 West Coast Stars try to take down GC's or Ward Melville's varsity. Ha, that would be laughable. Floral Park? - maybe. You need to come up for some fresh air and sunlight from the self-anointed "elite" club dungeon.
I suppose they would wreck the MIAA as well.
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You are 100% correct. I know for a fact several kids on the Cudas got their Blue Chip invite strait from Channy. He also is well connected with all the best D1 coaches. If your kid has the talent, Express makes sure it is noticed. I have seen a few posts claiming it doesn' matter, that the kid will get noticed if he's good. I can say that that is not always the case, or it may take longer, and then the coveted "spots" are full on the rosters. If you can afford it, and your kid is good enough to make it. Then club such as Express or 91 increases the odds of getting recruited.
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Best indicator of what the colleges think of the importance of clubs vs. what high school you play for? Count how many college rosters online show what club each player played for. Answer? 0. How many show what high school each player attended? Enough said. High school (including how you perform in that high school's classrooms) still matters much more than what club you play for. Always has been, always will be.
If you play for one of the top HS programs, you're right. Otherwise you sound like a delusional HS coach from a middle of the road HS program.
Interesting how this board (more broadly speaking - not just this Express thread) is mostly centered around club lax and other forums seem to have very few discussions about the club scene and are mostly focused on college and high school teams/issues. No point - just an observation. Both are good sources of info/perspective.
Let me throw this question out there...This kid was ranked the #7 recruit in the country in his class by Inside Lacrosse and was the only Long Island player listed in the Top 25. Was this recognition based more on his high school or club experience?
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Let me throw this question out there...This kid was ranked the #7 recruit in the country in his class by Inside Lacrosse and was the only Long Island player listed in the Top 25. Was this recognition based more on his high school or club experience?
The individual player rankings are a crock. It's all about generating page views for his organization and nothing else. Nobody can even come close to nailing college team rankings (remember Loyola?) let alone thousands of high schools let alone tens of thousands of high school players. The "evaluator" of these rankings admittedly mostly paruses the club circuit in the Baltimore area and talks mostly only with club coaches. I'd be shocked if he speaks to the High School coaches more than the club coaches because quite frankly the high school coaches probably don't give a crap about his mythical rankings - it's only the clubs that get more marketing juice out of these player rankings that care about it. Look how many D1 committed kids to top 10 programs were not recognized by this farce.
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Let me throw this question out there...This kid was ranked the #7 recruit in the country in his class by Inside Lacrosse and was the only Long Island player listed in the Top 25. Was this recognition based more on his high school or club experience?
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Let me throw this question out there...This kid was ranked the #7 recruit in the country in his class by Inside Lacrosse and was the only Long Island player listed in the Top 25. Was this recognition based more on his high school or club experience?
Since Manhasset is only a mediocre program and a small school at that, my guess is the summer team. A
Sounds like a chicken or the egg thing. Did they go to a top D! school because they where ranked so high ? Or did they rank so high because they committed to a top D1 school? My guess is could be done either way. I think individual showcases is what get you on teh radar and really propels you. Once noticed there your HS coach or club begins to have input Ranking had nothing to do with where this boy wound up - in fact probably the other way around - knowing that Duke was one of several in the picture helped his ranking. Most of these boys on the list were already committed (announced or not yet announced) to top tier programs before the list even came out which leads me to believe the joker who puts the list together is just following where the commitments have been or where they are expected to be. All about page views from you lemmings who love to follow that crap. Rankings are probably the worst thinkg that could have happened to this sport - both high school teams and individual players.
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Let me throw this question out there...This kid was ranked the #7 recruit in the country in his class by Inside Lacrosse and was the only Long Island player listed in the Top 25. Was this recognition based more on his high school or club experience?
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Let me throw this question out there...This kid was ranked the #7 recruit in the country in his class by Inside Lacrosse and was the only Long Island player listed in the Top 25. Was this recognition based more on his high school or club experience?
You having to be joking about the ranking thing!!! Do you honestly think these kids announce to the world whose interested in them???
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Let me throw this question out there...This kid was ranked the #7 recruit in the country in his class by Inside Lacrosse and was the only Long Island player listed in the Top 25. Was this recognition based more on his high school or club experience?
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Let me throw this question out there...This kid was ranked the #7 recruit in the country in his class by Inside Lacrosse and was the only Long Island player listed in the Top 25. Was this recognition based more on his high school or club experience?
You having to be joking about the ranking thing!!! Do you honestly think these kids announce to the world whose interested in them???
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Let me throw this question out there...This kid was ranked the #7 recruit in the country in his class by Inside Lacrosse and was the only Long Island player listed in the Top 25. Was this recognition based more on his high school or club experience?
You having to be joking about the ranking thing!!! Do you honestly think these kids announce to the world whose interested in them???
Obviously this is new to you. Kids don't go around saying who they have offers from BEFORE they accept - only after - hence the article you're referring to.
This player and his Dad let his teammates know exactly who was looking at him and where he was leaning. Word was out mid summer, after UA and Jake Reed. His Coach MC was also very open about the schools pursuing him and where he was leaning toward
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Let me throw this question out there...This kid was ranked the #7 recruit in the country in his class by Inside Lacrosse and was the only Long Island player listed in the Top 25. Was this recognition based more on his high school or club experience?
You having to be joking about the ranking thing!!! Do you honestly think these kids announce to the world whose interested in them???
Obviously this is new to you. Kids don't go around saying who they have offers from BEFORE they accept - only after - hence the article you're referring to.
You people are crazy!! These rankings do matter.....a lot!! Whether you want to believe it or not. I'll tell you one thing, Express had much to do with his #7. Other express players not as deserving also made list do to connections. All kids on list play either for top clubs or private or both. That's how it works. Authentic? not 100% I'm sure there are many other great players out there that are not on the "list" that should be. There are other long island players that got there by their talent and not club coach pushing. Life is not fair so pay up the $$$ like you do for a good lawyer or take what you get. And as for your comment about schools (Colleges) interested, the schools are interested in the kid because of what they observed, nothing else. It's just that well connected club coaches set up the best opportunities for the kids to be noticed.
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Let me throw this question out there...This kid was ranked the #7 recruit in the country in his class by Inside Lacrosse and was the only Long Island player listed in the Top 25. Was this recognition based more on his high school or club experience?
You having to be joking about the ranking thing!!! Do you honestly think these kids announce to the world whose interested in them???
Obviously this is new to you. Kids don't go around saying who they have offers from BEFORE they accept - only after - hence the article you're referring to.
The "Joker" Ty Xanders is one of the most watched commentators in HS lax. Everyone cares what he says. He is at every recruiting venue evaluating players. If you didn't make the list, stop crying
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Interesting how this board (more broadly speaking - not just this Express thread) is mostly centered around club lax and other forums seem to have very few discussions about the club scene and are mostly focused on college and high school teams/issues. No point - just an observation. Both are good sources of info/perspective.
Does Top include up to the top 254 (Set) ? And you think you are in the same League as WM 1? Ha
Good points raised by both sides but in the final analysis we can all agree the kid would have been recruited by the top tier D1 schools regardless of where he played. His talent speaks for itself.
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Let me throw this question out there...This kid was ranked the #7 recruit in the country in his class by Inside Lacrosse and was the only Long Island player listed in the Top 25. Was this recognition based more on his high school or club experience?
You having to be joking about the ranking thing!!! Do you honestly think these kids announce to the world whose interested in them???
Obviously this is new to you. Kids don't go around saying who they have offers from BEFORE they accept - only after - hence the article you're referring to.
The "Joker" Ty Xanders is one of the most watched commentators in HS lax. Everyone cares what he says. He is at every recruiting venue evaluating players. If you didn't make the list, stop crying
Not physically possible. The year before I don't think any 2015 express players made it and that team was much better than the cudas.
The animosity toward these lists is not who is on but who's left off because he doesn't see or talk to everybody and puts way too much faith and spends way too much time on the phone with just a small sample of self serving club owners. It's a seriously flawed process and many better D1 caliber kids have been overlooked over the years. It's really unnecessary unless you're trying to sell online ads.
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Good points raised by both sides but in the final analysis we can all agree the kid would have been recruited by the top tier D1 schools regardless of where he played. His talent speaks for itself.
In the final analysis, Express helped this boy develop. Both the HS/Town and the club played a role in this kid becoming the player that he is.
To those that "Hate the Clubs", don't have your kid play for them.
I have never heard the parent of a boy who plays for a Club demand that parents of other kids have their kids play for a club as well. I also have not seen any parent tell their child not to play for their HS Team.
To limit a players experience is to hinder that players development. To attempt to impose a restriction on a player is not only wrong, it is selfish.
It is comical to watch and listen to all of the club haters carry on about all of this. Give it a rest. The kid played for both Express and his HS Team. Get over it. If you do not want to have your kid play for a club you do not have to. Stop with the BS, It helped this kid, it has helped others and it will help more in the future.
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Interesting how this board (more broadly speaking - not just this Express thread) is mostly centered around club lax and other forums seem to have very few discussions about the club scene and are mostly focused on college and high school teams/issues. No point - just an observation. Both are good sources of info/perspective.
Does Top include up to the top 254 (Set) ? And you think you are in the same League as WM 1? Ha
No, (Set) is not in the same league as # 1 WM. I don't think Set had any Ringers. The #1 should have an asterisk next to it. Ha
Not physically possible. The year before I don't think any 2015 express players made it and that team was much better than the cudas. [/quote] Because MC was not in charge of that team and the person who was did not play the list game. Terrible disservice to maybe the most accomplished and most talented TEAM that the Express has ever had.
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The animosity toward these lists is not who is on but who's left off because he doesn't see or talk to everybody and puts way too much faith and spends way too much time on the phone with just a small sample of self serving club owners. It's a seriously flawed process and many better D1 caliber kids have been overlooked over the years. It's really unnecessary unless you're trying to sell online ads.
What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.
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The animosity toward these lists is not who is on but who's left off because he doesn't see or talk to everybody and puts way too much faith and spends way too much time on the phone with just a small sample of self serving club owners. It's a seriously flawed process and many better D1 caliber kids have been overlooked over the years. It's really unnecessary unless you're trying to sell online ads.
What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.
If my kid committed to a top 5 lax program and wasn't on his list I wouldn't even tell the list maker - kind of a silient protest and the satisfaction of knowing his database is kept incomplete.
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The animosity toward these lists is not who is on but who's left off because he doesn't see or talk to everybody and puts way too much faith and spends way too much time on the phone with just a small sample of self serving club owners. It's a seriously flawed process and many better D1 caliber kids have been overlooked over the years. It's really unnecessary unless you're trying to sell online ads.
What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.
you make no sense! There are 60 kids on top Spphomore list, most well deserved. Most either committed or soon to be. News Flash: That's part of the reason they are on the list! They have been identified by numerous evaluators as the best in their grade. Of couse there are many other great players in the grade not on list , because they only honor 60! Just because a kid commits to Duke or UNC does not mean they belong in the top 60. For example, assuming the top 10 programs take 12 kids each per grade level, obviously some will not be top 60. We all also know that many kids never see the field much regardless of where they commit. Only time will tell if kids on list continue to be stand out players. I personally think the number 60 is too small. At the very least there should be 100 ranked kids by this age.
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Good points raised by both sides but in the final analysis we can all agree the kid would have been recruited by the top tier D1 schools regardless of where he played. His talent speaks for itself.
In the final analysis, Express helped this boy develop. Both the HS/Town and the club played a role in this kid becoming the player that he is.
To those that "Hate the Clubs", don't have your kid play for them.
I have never heard the parent of a boy who plays for a Club demand that parents of other kids have their kids play for a club as well. I also have not seen any parent tell their child not to play for their HS Team.
To limit a players experience is to hinder that players development. To attempt to impose a restriction on a player is not only wrong, it is selfish.
It is comical to watch and listen to all of the club haters carry on about all of this. Give it a rest. The kid played for both Express and his HS Team. Get over it. If you do not want to have your kid play for a club you do not have to. Stop with the BS, It helped this kid, it has helped others and it will help more in the future.
Why didn't this kid (or the kids' parents) want to play with his HS buddies with Cherry's Summer team?
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The animosity toward these lists is not who is on but who's left off because he doesn't see or talk to everybody and puts way too much faith and spends way too much time on the phone with just a small sample of self serving club owners. It's a seriously flawed process and many better D1 caliber kids have been overlooked over the years. It's really unnecessary unless you're trying to sell online ads.
What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.
One suggestion I'd have for the list maker is to do away with teh enational list - nobody can do this with credibility - it's just too big of a universe to digest. What he should do instead is get regional lists of 25-50 that would capture alot of the talent he currently misses. more page views too!
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The animosity toward these lists is not who is on but who's left off because he doesn't see or talk to everybody and puts way too much faith and spends way too much time on the phone with just a small sample of self serving club owners. It's a seriously flawed process and many better D1 caliber kids have been overlooked over the years. It's really unnecessary unless you're trying to sell online ads.
What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.
One suggestion I'd have for the list maker is to do away with teh enational list - nobody can do this with credibility - it's just too big of a universe to digest. What he should do instead is get regional lists of 25-50 that would capture alot of the talent he currently misses. more page views too!
This source does a much better job covering the various regions than the list maker at IL. http:/
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The animosity toward these lists is not who is on but who's left off because he doesn't see or talk to everybody and puts way too much faith and spends way too much time on the phone with just a small sample of self serving club owners. It's a seriously flawed process and many better D1 caliber kids have been overlooked over the years. It's really unnecessary unless you're trying to sell online ads.
What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.
you make no sense! There are 60 kids on top Spphomore list, most well deserved. Most either committed or soon to be. News Flash: That's part of the reason they are on the list! They have been identified by numerous evaluators as the best in their grade. Of couse there are many other great players in the grade not on list , because they only honor 60! Just because a kid commits to Duke or UNC does not mean they belong in the top 60. For example, assuming the top 10 programs take 12 kids each per grade level, obviously some will not be top 60. We all also know that many kids never see the field much regardless of where they commit. Only time will tell if kids on list continue to be stand out players. I personally think the number 60 is too small. At the very least there should be 100 ranked kids by this age.
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The animosity toward these lists is not who is on but who's left off because he doesn't see or talk to everybody and puts way too much faith and spends way too much time on the phone with just a small sample of self serving club owners. It's a seriously flawed process and many better D1 caliber kids have been overlooked over the years. It's really unnecessary unless you're trying to sell online ads.
What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.
you make no sense! There are 60 kids on top Spphomore list, most well deserved. Most either committed or soon to be. News Flash: That's part of the reason they are on the list! They have been identified by numerous evaluators as the best in their grade. Of couse there are many other great players in the grade not on list , because they only honor 60! Just because a kid commits to Duke or UNC does not mean they belong in the top 60. For example, assuming the top 10 programs take 12 kids each per grade level, obviously some will not be top 60. We all also know that many kids never see the field much regardless of where they commit. Only time will tell if kids on list continue to be stand out players. I personally think the number 60 is too small. At the very least there should be 100 ranked kids by this age.
Not true!, maybe your upset because your kid didn't make the list? List is good, not long enough, but most kids on deserve to be there and have the stats to back up their selection. They do favor the prep schools, but then again, so do the top colleges! If you watch the list evolve over the next few years, you will see that these are the kids for the most part that will be starters in college.
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The animosity toward these lists is not who is on but who's left off because he doesn't see or talk to everybody and puts way too much faith and spends way too much time on the phone with just a small sample of self serving club owners. It's a seriously flawed process and many better D1 caliber kids have been overlooked over the years. It's really unnecessary unless you're trying to sell online ads.
What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.
you make no sense! There are 60 kids on top Spphomore list, most well deserved. Most either committed or soon to be. News Flash: That's part of the reason they are on the list! They have been identified by numerous evaluators as the best in their grade. Of couse there are many other great players in the grade not on list , because they only honor 60! Just because a kid commits to Duke or UNC does not mean they belong in the top 60. For example, assuming the top 10 programs take 12 kids each per grade level, obviously some will not be top 60. We all also know that many kids never see the field much regardless of where they commit. Only time will tell if kids on list continue to be stand out players. I personally think the number 60 is too small. At the very least there should be 100 ranked kids by this age.
Not true!, maybe your upset because your kid didn't make the list? List is good, not long enough, but most kids on deserve to be there and have the stats to back up their selection. They do favor the prep schools, but then again, so do the top colleges! If you watch the list evolve over the next few years, you will see that these are the kids for the most part that will be starters in college.
The issue that most people probably have a problem with is the "science" or lack thereof to putting a numerical ranking next to each kid's name as an indication that one kids' lax skills are that much better than another's. What's wrong with just keping a list of the college commits and just leaving it at that. You can pretty much guess that the kids going to the top 5 programs have better skills than the kids in the bottom 5 programs but to profess any insidght greater than that you should be running the world's most profitable hedge fund and making billions.
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The animosity toward these lists is not who is on but who's left off because he doesn't see or talk to everybody and puts way too much faith and spends way too much time on the phone with just a small sample of self serving club owners. It's a seriously flawed process and many better D1 caliber kids have been overlooked over the years. It's really unnecessary unless you're trying to sell online ads.
What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.
you make no sense! There are 60 kids on top Spphomore list, most well deserved. Most either committed or soon to be. News Flash: That's part of the reason they are on the list! They have been identified by numerous evaluators as the best in their grade. Of couse there are many other great players in the grade not on list , because they only honor 60! Just because a kid commits to Duke or UNC does not mean they belong in the top 60. For example, assuming the top 10 programs take 12 kids each per grade level, obviously some will not be top 60. We all also know that many kids never see the field much regardless of where they commit. Only time will tell if kids on list continue to be stand out players. I personally think the number 60 is too small. At the very least there should be 100 ranked kids by this age.
Not true!, maybe your upset because your kid didn't make the list? List is good, not long enough, but most kids on deserve to be there and have the stats to back up their selection. They do favor the prep schools, but then again, so do the top colleges! If you watch the list evolve over the next few years, you will see that these are the kids for the most part that will be starters in college.
Really? I seem to recall not too long ago an Attackman from West Islip being ranked #1. How'd that work out? Goes back to the pror post of setting these kids up for a "Bust" label.
Galasso is hardly a bust. Freshman AA, ACC record for freshman. Some injuries and resulting transfer has slowed his career but he has two years left. I think you will be hearing his name again this year at Cuse. He may not be a college legend but I dont think he will be a bust either.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really? I seem to recall not too long ago an Attackman from West Islip being ranked #1. How'd that work out? Goes back to the pror post of setting these kids up for a "Bust" label.
Even with the injuries Galasso has had a great college career so far and now with 2 years left and playing at Syracuse who knows how good he will end up being. That was a weak example of the point you were trying to make.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The animosity toward these lists is not who is on but who's left off because he doesn't see or talk to everybody and puts way too much faith and spends way too much time on the phone with just a small sample of self serving club owners. It's a seriously flawed process and many better D1 caliber kids have been overlooked over the years. It's really unnecessary unless you're trying to sell online ads.
What I love about these lists is the mia culpa egg-on-face of the list maker everytime he finds out about a Duke, UNC, UVA etc. committment by a kid that never hit his radar. That does nothing but take big chunks out of the credibility of his list and process. Very Sweet for those families.
you make no sense! There are 60 kids on top Spphomore list, most well deserved. Most either committed or soon to be. News Flash: That's part of the reason they are on the list! They have been identified by numerous evaluators as the best in their grade. Of couse there are many other great players in the grade not on list , because they only honor 60! Just because a kid commits to Duke or UNC does not mean they belong in the top 60. For example, assuming the top 10 programs take 12 kids each per grade level, obviously some will not be top 60. We all also know that many kids never see the field much regardless of where they commit. Only time will tell if kids on list continue to be stand out players. I personally think the number 60 is too small. At the very least there should be 100 ranked kids by this age.
Not true!, maybe your upset because your kid didn't make the list? List is good, not long enough, but most kids on deserve to be there and have the stats to back up their selection. They do favor the prep schools, but then again, so do the top colleges! If you watch the list evolve over the next few years, you will see that these are the kids for the most part that will be starters in college.
Really? I seem to recall not too long ago an Attackman from West Islip being ranked #1. How'd that work out? Goes back to the pror post of setting these kids up for a "Bust" label.
Are you serious a bust? Not exactly, cant wait to see what he does next.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Galasso is hardly a bust. Freshman AA, ACC record for freshman. Some injuries and resulting transfer has slowed his career but he has two years left. I think you will be hearing his name again this year at Cuse. He may not be a college legend but I dont think he will be a bust either.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Galasso is hardly a bust. Freshman AA, ACC record for freshman. Some injuries and resulting transfer has slowed his career but he has two years left. I think you will be hearing his name again this year at Cuse. He may not be a college legend but I dont think he will be a bust either.
If these lists are to have any credibility, a #1 ranking should mean Tewaaraton finalst (if not winner) at some point during his career. Lets see what happens. Same for the kid at the top of this 2016 list. If not, what's the point of the ranking?
The other interesting thing about these lists is that they get reshuffled every year. How do the kids feel when they get moved down the list or maybe drop off altogether in subsequent years. Ouch. For all the supporters of these lists, lets see what you say about the process if your kid gets moved down. [lacrosse] hath no fury like a scorned lax mommy or daddy.
When lists like these are developed, the people near the top will always have to accept a huge amount of scrutiny and added pressure to live up to the inflated expectations - like it or not it just comes with the territory. What also seems to come with the territory are those that will go a step further out of jealousy/competitiveness and hope the lists are actually proven wrong. Just human nature when the competitive fires are stoked by early recruiting and list making. A shame this great sport is evolving like this just to "get a spot".
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The other interesting thing about these lists is that they get reshuffled every year. How do the kids feel when they get moved down the list or maybe drop off altogether in subsequent years. Ouch. For all the supporters of these lists, lets see what you say about the process if your kid gets moved down. [lacrosse] hath no fury like a scorned lax mommy or daddy.
Ain't that the truth! Still think list is good. But wouldn't want to be #1!!
Freshman AA due to hype. Records
because he was a man up specialist. Injuries?
Or was it the incoming freshman class that
made him transfer? Bust? Maybe.
because he was a man up specialist. Injuries?
Or was it the incoming freshman class that
made him transfer? Bust? Maybe.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good points raised by both sides but in the final analysis we can all agree the kid would have been recruited by the top tier D1 schools regardless of where he played. His talent speaks for itself.
In the final analysis, Express helped this boy develop. Both the HS/Town and the club played a role in this kid becoming the player that he is.
To those that "Hate the Clubs", don't have your kid play for them.
I have never heard the parent of a boy who plays for a Club demand that parents of other kids have their kids play for a club as well. I also have not seen any parent tell their child not to play for their HS Team.
To limit a players experience is to hinder that players development. To attempt to impose a restriction on a player is not only wrong, it is selfish.
It is comical to watch and listen to all of the club haters carry on about all of this. Give it a rest. The kid played for both Express and his HS Team. Get over it. If you do not want to have your kid play for a club you do not have to. Stop with the BS, It helped this kid, it has helped others and it will help more in the future.
Why didn't this kid (or the kids' parents) want to play with his HS buddies with Cherry's Summer team?
Probably thought that the Express was a superior program. Otherwise awefully difficult to not play for your high school coach.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good points raised by both sides but in the final analysis we can all agree the kid would have been recruited by the top tier D1 schools regardless of where he played. His talent speaks for itself.
In the final analysis, Express helped this boy develop. Both the HS/Town and the club played a role in this kid becoming the player that he is.
To those that "Hate the Clubs", don't have your kid play for them.
I have never heard the parent of a boy who plays for a Club demand that parents of other kids have their kids play for a club as well. I also have not seen any parent tell their child not to play for their HS Team.
To limit a players experience is to hinder that players development. To attempt to impose a restriction on a player is not only wrong, it is selfish.
It is comical to watch and listen to all of the club haters carry on about all of this. Give it a rest. The kid played for both Express and his HS Team. Get over it. If you do not want to have your kid play for a club you do not have to. Stop with the BS, It helped this kid, it has helped others and it will help more in the future.
Why didn't this kid (or the kids' parents) want to play with his HS buddies with Cherry's Summer team?
Probably thought that the Express was a superior program. Otherwise awefully difficult to not play for your high school coach.
Unlike many School-run summer program's Bill Cherry doesn;t require kids to play for him. He certainly suggests that they may improve as a HS team if they are able to keep a core group together, but he doesn't seem to hammer the kids if they don;t play for his summer teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good points raised by both sides but in the final analysis we can all agree the kid would have been recruited by the top tier D1 schools regardless of where he played. His talent speaks for itself.
In the final analysis, Express helped this boy develop. Both the HS/Town and the club played a role in this kid becoming the player that he is.
To those that "Hate the Clubs", don't have your kid play for them.
I have never heard the parent of a boy who plays for a Club demand that parents of other kids have their kids play for a club as well. I also have not seen any parent tell their child not to play for their HS Team.
To limit a players experience is to hinder that players development. To attempt to impose a restriction on a player is not only wrong, it is selfish.
It is comical to watch and listen to all of the club haters carry on about all of this. Give it a rest. The kid played for both Express and his HS Team. Get over it. If you do not want to have your kid play for a club you do not have to. Stop with the BS, It helped this kid, it has helped others and it will help more in the future.
Why didn't this kid (or the kids' parents) want to play with his HS buddies with Cherry's Summer team?
Probably thought that the Express was a superior program. Otherwise awefully difficult to not play for your high school coach.
Unlike many School-run summer program's Bill Cherry doesn;t require kids to play for him. He certainly suggests that they may improve as a HS team if they are able to keep a core group together, but he doesn't seem to hammer the kids if they don;t play for his summer teams.
Many of the better Manhasset players have opted to play Club ball. The Express team this kid playes for is one of the best. His experience playing with and against the best competition clearly has played a significant role in his development as a top tier player.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good points raised by both sides but in the final analysis we can all agree the kid would have been recruited by the top tier D1 schools regardless of where he played. His talent speaks for itself.
In the final analysis, Express helped this boy develop. Both the HS/Town and the club played a role in this kid becoming the player that he is.
To those that "Hate the Clubs", don't have your kid play for them.
I have never heard the parent of a boy who plays for a Club demand that parents of other kids have their kids play for a club as well. I also have not seen any parent tell their child not to play for their HS Team.
To limit a players experience is to hinder that players development. To attempt to impose a restriction on a player is not only wrong, it is selfish.
It is comical to watch and listen to all of the club haters carry on about all of this. Give it a rest. The kid played for both Express and his HS Team. Get over it. If you do not want to have your kid play for a club you do not have to. Stop with the BS, It helped this kid, it has helped others and it will help more in the future.
Why didn't this kid (or the kids' parents) want to play with his HS buddies with Cherry's Summer team?
Probably thought that the Express was a superior program. Otherwise awefully difficult to not play for your high school coach.
True enough.....unless you're good enough to make your elite HS team but are not a favorite of the coach. It could be, an often is, a reality that many excellent players just don't get the time needed to show what they can do when the necessary people are watching. There are many examples of kids who got their "look" from a club team because they just didn't get enough time on the field because of the particular make-up/strength of their HS team It can totally happen....Now if you are one of the coaches favorites then playing for his summer team might be the best move. This is not "one size fits all" and you need to be able to adapt based upon where the oppotunities are for your son.....I am in the camp that options are best and that letting any HS coach hold all the cards could cause many deserving kids to lose out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good points raised by both sides but in the final analysis we can all agree the kid would have been recruited by the top tier D1 schools regardless of where he played. His talent speaks for itself.
In the final analysis, Express helped this boy develop. Both the HS/Town and the club played a role in this kid becoming the player that he is.
To those that "Hate the Clubs", don't have your kid play for them.
I have never heard the parent of a boy who plays for a Club demand that parents of other kids have their kids play for a club as well. I also have not seen any parent tell their child not to play for their HS Team.
To limit a players experience is to hinder that players development. To attempt to impose a restriction on a player is not only wrong, it is selfish.
It is comical to watch and listen to all of the club haters carry on about all of this. Give it a rest. The kid played for both Express and his HS Team. Get over it. If you do not want to have your kid play for a club you do not have to. Stop with the BS, It helped this kid, it has helped others and it will help more in the future.
Why didn't this kid (or the kids' parents) want to play with his HS buddies with Cherry's Summer team?
Probably thought that the Express was a superior program. Otherwise awefully difficult to not play for your high school coach.
Unlike many School-run summer program's Bill Cherry doesn;t require kids to play for him. He certainly suggests that they may improve as a HS team if they are able to keep a core group together, but he doesn't seem to hammer the kids if they don;t play for his summer teams.
Many of the better Manhasset players have opted to play Club ball. The Express team this kid playes for is one of the best. His experience playing with and against the best competition clearly has played a significant role in his development as a top tier player.
So what you're saying is that Cherry's program would not have played against the best competition and that he could not have given this kid as good of an experience. Wonder if he would agree with that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good points raised by both sides but in the final analysis we can all agree the kid would have been recruited by the top tier D1 schools regardless of where he played. His talent speaks for itself.
In the final analysis, Express helped this boy develop. Both the HS/Town and the club played a role in this kid becoming the player that he is.
To those that "Hate the Clubs", don't have your kid play for them.
I have never heard the parent of a boy who plays for a Club demand that parents of other kids have their kids play for a club as well. I also have not seen any parent tell their child not to play for their HS Team.
To limit a players experience is to hinder that players development. To attempt to impose a restriction on a player is not only wrong, it is selfish.
It is comical to watch and listen to all of the club haters carry on about all of this. Give it a rest. The kid played for both Express and his HS Team. Get over it. If you do not want to have your kid play for a club you do not have to. Stop with the BS, It helped this kid, it has helped others and it will help more in the future.
Why didn't this kid (or the kids' parents) want to play with his HS buddies with Cherry's Summer team?
Probably thought that the Express was a superior program. Otherwise awefully difficult to not play for your high school coach.
Unlike many School-run summer program's Bill Cherry doesn;t require kids to play for him. He certainly suggests that they may improve as a HS team if they are able to keep a core group together, but he doesn't seem to hammer the kids if they don;t play for his summer teams.
Many of the better Manhasset players have opted to play Club ball. The Express team this kid playes for is one of the best. His experience playing with and against the best competition clearly has played a significant role in his development as a top tier player.
News flash - Cherry's Manhasset 32 team is "club ball" - same experience as Express, fl$ etc. The manhasset 32 team doesn't just play against other town teams - they play all clubs - town or "elite", because they can match up very well talent wise. And they do it for half the price. Plenty of these kids also made it to Maverick Showtime and Jake Reed as well because there are some really great Manhasset players who have decided to play Manhasset 32 and not Express or other clubs. It's insulting to say many of the "better Manhasset players" have decided to play club ball. Based on who's judgement? What makes you the expert talent evaluator? I'm sure Express would love to have some of the Manhasset 32 players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Freshman AA due to hype. Records
because he was a man up specialist. Injuries?
Or was it the incoming freshman class that
made him transfer? Bust? Maybe.
because he was a man up specialist. Injuries?
Or was it the incoming freshman class that
made him transfer? Bust? Maybe.
Wow, not even remotely close to the truth. He has the most points of any player in Long Island history! You dont do that by being just a man up specialist. Was an AA his freshman year and broke his foot the following fall. He should have injury RS but he didnt and he lost his spot to an outstanding freshmen class of attackmen. Broke his other foot right before the season last year and he did RS this time. The kid is a special talent, not even close to being a bust. Take the jealousy elsewhere.
Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none. [/quote}
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none. [/quote}
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none. [/quote}
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
all due respect to this ridiculous conversation, the kid played varsity as a freshman and did well in a high profile program. Played well at showcases and was on a good summer team. Maybe you should the kid credit, and do you really think the Duke guys aren't out there doing their own work.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none. [/quote}
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
all due respect to this ridiculous conversation, the kid played varsity as a freshman and did well in a high profile program. Played well at showcases and was on a good summer team. Maybe you should the kid credit, and do you really think the Duke guys aren't out there doing their own work.
the last guy got it right!! This is a ridiculous conversation!!! And when my 2017 commits (which will be sooner than later) you can bet it will not be announced!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none. [/quote}
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
all due respect to this ridiculous conversation, the kid played varsity as a freshman and did well in a high profile program. Played well at showcases and was on a good summer team. Maybe you should the kid credit, and do you really think the Duke guys aren't out there doing their own work.
the last guy got it right!! This is a ridiculous conversation!!! And when my 2017 commits (which will be sooner than later) you can bet it will not be announced!!
So you are announcing that you won't be announcing? Why bother saying anything?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none. [/quote}
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
all due respect to this ridiculous conversation, the kid played varsity as a freshman and did well in a high profile program. Played well at showcases and was on a good summer team. Maybe you should the kid credit, and do you really think the Duke guys aren't out there doing their own work.
the last guy got it right!! This is a ridiculous conversation!!! And when my 2017 commits (which will be sooner than later) you can bet it will not be announced!!
OK Pal. Hate to break it to you but I'm pretty sure the lax world will be able to live without your (self-important) non-announcement.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none. [/quote}
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
all due respect to this ridiculous conversation, the kid played varsity as a freshman and did well in a high profile program. Played well at showcases and was on a good summer team. Maybe you should the kid credit, and do you really think the Duke guys aren't out there doing their own work.
the last guy got it right!! This is a ridiculous conversation!!! And when my 2017 commits (which will be sooner than later) you can bet it will not be announced!!
Unless he's going to Harvard, I highly doubt it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none. [/quote}
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
all due respect to this ridiculous conversation, the kid played varsity as a freshman and did well in a high profile program. Played well at showcases and was on a good summer team. Maybe you should the kid credit, and do you really think the Duke guys aren't out there doing their own work.
the last guy got it right!! This is a ridiculous conversation!!! And when my 2017 commits (which will be sooner than later) you can bet it will not be announced!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none. [/quote}
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
all due respect to this ridiculous conversation, the kid played varsity as a freshman and did well in a high profile program. Played well at showcases and was on a good summer team. Maybe you should the kid credit, and do you really think the Duke guys aren't out there doing their own work.
the last guy got it right!! This is a ridiculous conversation!!! And when my 2017 commits (which will be sooner than later) you can bet it will not be announced!!
OK Pal. Hate to break it to you but I'm pretty sure the lax world will be able to live without your (self-important) non-announcement.
Are are people five? I hope so because otherwise you sound like idiots. Can't blame the guy for not announcing his son's impending commitment!! Why should he - so you morons can dissect it every which way possible? Go back to picking on the age of the pgs, wayyy more entertaining..
Why only one Express team in Halloween Havoc?
I've counted at least 6 express teams!!!!!
What r u looking at?
What r u looking at?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why only one Express team in Halloween Havoc?
Honey Badger, Piranha, Minutemen, Terps, Wolves. Etc...
Sorry, must have missed/mis-read Honey Bagders, Terps (2x), Piranhas, Minuteman
By wolves do you mean 2019 Wolverines, because I don't see them listed? Would have been nice to see them in there. But nor do I see an 8th grade representative from LIE. Why is that?
It would have also been nice to see 91 white for 2019. Would have loved to see LIE 2019 vs 91 w. Are 2019 white the only 91 white team not going? Even Titanium is in the bracket with Crush.
Honey Badger, Piranha, Minutemen, Terps, Wolves. Etc...
By wolves do you mean 2019 Wolverines, because I don't see them listed? Would have been nice to see them in there. But nor do I see an 8th grade representative from LIE. Why is that?
It would have also been nice to see 91 white for 2019. Would have loved to see LIE 2019 vs 91 w. Are 2019 white the only 91 white team not going? Even Titanium is in the bracket with Crush.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why only one Express team in Halloween Havoc?
Honey Badger, Piranha, Minutemen, Terps, Wolves. Etc...
Piranah's are playing in the 8th grade bracket for the Express
at Halloween Havoc.
at Halloween Havoc.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry, must have missed/mis-read Honey Bagders, Terps (2x), Piranhas, Minuteman
By wolves do you mean 2019 Wolverines, because I don't see them listed? Would have been nice to see them in there. But nor do I see an 8th grade representative from LIE. Why is that?
It would have also been nice to see 91 white for 2019. Would have loved to see LIE 2019 vs 91 w. Are 2019 white the only 91 white team not going? Even Titanium is in the bracket with Crush.
Honey Badger, Piranha, Minutemen, Terps, Wolves. Etc...
By wolves do you mean 2019 Wolverines, because I don't see them listed? Would have been nice to see them in there. But nor do I see an 8th grade representative from LIE. Why is that?
It would have also been nice to see 91 white for 2019. Would have loved to see LIE 2019 vs 91 w. Are 2019 white the only 91 white team not going? Even Titanium is in the bracket with Crush.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why only one Express team in Halloween Havoc?
Honey Badger, Piranha, Minutemen, Terps, Wolves. Etc...
Are you an express parent or just trying to stir the pot? the "Lax Cold War" has died down over the last few years with Express teams playing in 91 tournaments. There are Express teams in almost every grade attending. Looks like 7 grade is not on the master team list. Neither is a JV team. So what. if you are a parent of either of those grades and the team wants to get in speak to you coach and directors and see if they can still get in. If not a parent then worry about your own team/organization
Sounds to me like someone needs to get back to work and stop reading into a fall tournament schedule for story lines. If you are on a team your coach will have the correct info, our coach had before any of this was made public to fools like you. Maybe an out of work government employee just killing time.
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Piranah's are playing in the 8th grade bracket for the Express
at Halloween Havoc.
at Halloween Havoc.
Why did the 2020 A team not show up for the final?
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Why did the 2020 A team not show up for the final?
Rather than rehash here go to Halloween Havoc page for details.
Not sure if havoc details the why? I think i saw some lame arse.... Because you didn't want to be stuck at the fields all day... Boo hoo!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none.
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
Bunch of Manhasset kids jumping the Express ship and heading back "home" to play with Cherry and 32. The market speaks loudly.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none.
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
Bunch of Manhasset kids jumping the Express ship and heading back "home" to play with Cherry and 32. The market speaks loudly.
And for 1/3 the cost.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none.
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
Bunch of Manhasset kids jumping the Express ship and heading back "home" to play with Cherry and 32. The market speaks loudly.
What year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cherry could have done what Express did for this kid (exposure, recruiting etc.) for a fraction of the cost.
Kid never would be recruiting to Duke without Express, not this early. Express put him Man Up! No question about it.
I disagree. If the kid is that good it doesn't matter what club he played for. Cherry's connections are 2nd to none.
You are wrong. Name one other kid from set that was recruited to a top tier school as a sophomore without club. Oh, you can't! Maybe he would have been discovered eventually, but then again, maybe not. Express put him out there! End of story. Channys connections got him noticed
Bunch of Manhasset kids jumping the Express ship and heading back "home" to play with Cherry and 32. The market speaks loudly.
What year?
All years
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if havoc details the why? I think i saw some lame arse.... Because you didn't want to be stuck at the fields all day... Boo hoo!
obviously 91 parent. go to your thread. you live in a glass house too
Nope not 91, ex express not by choice but sometimes things happen for reasons and have a way of working themselves out.
obviously 91 parent. go to your thread. you live in a glass house too
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if havoc details the why? I think i saw some lame arse.... Because you didn't want to be stuck at the fields all day... Boo hoo!
obviously 91 parent. go to your thread. you live in a glass house too
That's great that boys from Manhasset a choosing to stay in town, Bill Cherry is a class act and a true gentleman. For the boys that dont live in towns with strong programs club lacrosse is the only alternative .
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That's great that boys from Manhasset a choosing to stay in town, Bill Cherry is a class act and a true gentleman. For the boys that dont live in towns with strong programs club lacrosse is the only alternative .
The program is open to boys from outside Manhasset too and will compete directly with Express and fl$ for talent. Any unhappy Express family should take a look.
Not every age group is open to out of town boys check the web site
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Not every age group is open to out of town boys check the web site
Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not every age group is open to out of town boys check the web site
Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.
How is it a conflict of interest for Cherry but it's ok for the coaches at St Anthony's and Kellenberg with Express. And before somebody drags out the old and tired answer about it's different for public vs private, please don't. How a school is funded with tuition or tax dollars makes absolutely no difference and no sense in the discussion. I'd like to hear a better reason why Express coaches get away with the conflict of interest scrutiny yet other high school coaches don't get the same free pass. Let's hear it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not every age group is open to out of town boys check the web site
Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.
Money and control, a recipe for upheaval in town rich in lacrosse history. Come on Set, you folks are way too smart to let this happen. Will be great for the top 12-15 kids in each grade, all the rest will suffer. Ask the un-chosen ones at WM about their summer program...
Also a serious conflict of interest with Danielle Gallagher, Manhasset GIRLS VARSITY coach and LIBERTY owner/director.
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Also a serious conflict of interest with Danielle Gallagher, Manhasset GIRLS VARSITY coach and LIBERTY owner/director.
Jeez.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not every age group is open to out of town boys check the web site
Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.
How is it a conflict of interest for Cherry but it's ok for the coaches at St Anthony's and Kellenberg with Express. And before somebody drags out the old and tired answer about it's different for public vs private, please don't. How a school is funded with tuition or tax dollars makes absolutely no difference and no sense in the discussion. I'd like to hear a better reason why Express coaches get away with the conflict of interest scrutiny yet other high school coaches don't get the same free pass. Let's hear it.
You dont have to attend St Anthonys, Chaminade, Kellenberg etc.
You have to attend your public town high school or move. I'd say there is quite a difference
A panel of respected HS coaches/club coaches (girls and boys) is convening at US lacrosse convention and parents are requesting the coach/panelists to address this issue of conflicts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's great that boys from Manhasset a choosing to stay in town, Bill Cherry is a class act and a true gentleman. For the boys that dont live in towns with strong programs club lacrosse is the only alternative .
The program is open to boys from outside Manhasset too and will compete directly with Express and fl$ for talent. Any unhappy Express family should take a look.
Really? I guess Manhasset is taking a page out of the Three V - Ward Melville playbook.
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A panel of respected HS coaches/club coaches (girls and boys) is convening at US lacrosse convention and parents are requesting the coach/panelists to address this issue of conflicts.
Are the coaches/club coaches expected to sanction themselves? That's like asking the inmates to lock the gate at night.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not every age group is open to out of town boys check the web site
Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.
How is it a conflict of interest for Cherry but it's ok for the coaches at St Anthony's and Kellenberg with Express. And before somebody drags out the old and tired answer about it's different for public vs private, please don't. How a school is funded with tuition or tax dollars makes absolutely no difference and no sense in the discussion. I'd like to hear a better reason why Express coaches get away with the conflict of interest scrutiny yet other high school coaches don't get the same free pass. Let's hear it.
You dont have to attend St Anthonys, Chaminade, Kellenberg etc.
You have to attend your public town high school or move. I'd say there is quite a difference
Say what? News flash! You don't have to move to send your kid to a different school. Whatever. The point is its either a conflict or not no matter what school you are talking about.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not every age group is open to out of town boys check the web site
Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.
How is it a conflict of interest for Cherry but it's ok for the coaches at St Anthony's and Kellenberg with Express. And before somebody drags out the old and tired answer about it's different for public vs private, please don't. How a school is funded with tuition or tax dollars makes absolutely no difference and no sense in the discussion. I'd like to hear a better reason why Express coaches get away with the conflict of interest scrutiny yet other high school coaches don't get the same free pass. Let's hear it.
You dont have to attend St Anthonys, Chaminade, Kellenberg etc.
You have to attend your public town high school or move. I'd say there is quite a difference
On one level there is no difference -- if you want to play lax and go to one of those private schools, and you are pressured to pony up for the coach's private summer lax team (or perhaps you won't play for the high school), then that would be a serious conflict of interest since the coach would be using his/her school position to coerce students and their families (not saying this happens, I don't know, but it is certainly possible).
The lack of an alternative when the same thing happens in public schools makes that situation somewhat worse, but the conflict can exist on both the public and private levels.
And frankly, once your kid is at the school he is at, he isn't going to switch to the local public school after year or two because the lacrosse coach wants you to pay him $1000 to play for his summer team. You'd pay the $1000 or not. Just like if this happened with the public school coach.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not every age group is open to out of town boys check the web site
Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.
How is it a conflict of interest for Cherry but it's ok for the coaches at St Anthony's and Kellenberg with Express. And before somebody drags out the old and tired answer about it's different for public vs private, please don't. How a school is funded with tuition or tax dollars makes absolutely no difference and no sense in the discussion. I'd like to hear a better reason why Express coaches get away with the conflict of interest scrutiny yet other high school coaches don't get the same free pass. Let's hear it.
You dont have to attend St Anthonys, Chaminade, Kellenberg etc.
You have to attend your public town high school or move. I'd say there is quite a difference
On one level there is no difference -- if you want to play lax and go to one of those private schools, and you are pressured to pony up for the coach's private summer lax team (or perhaps you won't play for the high school), then that would be a serious conflict of interest since the coach would be using his/her school position to coerce students and their families (not saying this happens, I don't know, but it is certainly possible).
The lack of an alternative when the same thing happens in public schools makes that situation somewhat worse, but the conflict can exist on both the public and private levels.
And frankly, once your kid is at the school he is at, he isn't going to switch to the local public school after year or two because the lacrosse coach wants you to pay him $1000 to play for his summer team. You'd pay the $1000 or not. Just like if this happened with the public school coach.
Chaminade or St. Anthony's (or any private school) does not take kids based on where they play summer lacrosse. Kids are accepted based on how well they do on the Catholic School Entrance Exam. So if a kid was playing on Jesters, Outlaws, or 91 from 3rd grade through 8th grade - those two schools would not have had an impact on where a player plays during that time period.
However, when a HS coach is running a travel program that has a town bias like 32 and Liberty do in Manhasset, or like Yellow Jackets have in Northport, or like Ward Melville, West Islip and Northport on the boys side - then there is a conflict of interest. In many cases these same coaches are also teachers or phys ed teachers in the same schools. When you have current teachers wearing their club gear in school and also make "offhand comments" to kids about where they are playing, then that is a conflict of interest.
If a catholic scholl parent "feels" their kid will have a better chance of playing at Chaminade or St. Anthony's and they have their kid play for Express - well that isa decision to do so. It is not a decision that is forced on them. There are plenty of kids who play on other travel programs and still play at Chaminade of St. A's. However, at the public HS level - it is my opinion that is different and it is more of a conflict because our kids are not going to private school and they are definitely feeling the pressure to play for their coaches travel program.
Another whining 3 Village victim of the "capitalistic club lacrosse machine". Why dont you ask the unelected all- powerful board why they refused to discuss alternative solutions with the parents instead of enforcing their scorched earth policy from behind the curtain (unless the boys in question were on a team they personally had interest in - until they got busted!)? Stop with this "unchosen few" cr@p - its getting old. There are so many options and places for boys to play so stop whining that you weren't "personally invited" to tryouts. You stayed for your own reasons and that is fine - dont judge others. I have an intimate knowledge of that organization - you are far from being on the moral high-ground. Just watch what you say; there are an awful lot of 3V parents who had the biggest mouths and strongest opinions in the Park Bench who are now writing checks to these so-called evil programs
Don't lump West Islip into this. The kids pay whatever the tournament entrance fee is and you only pay for the ones that you go to.
Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.
How is it a conflict of interest for Cherry but it's ok for the coaches at St Anthony's and Kellenberg with Express. And before somebody drags out the old and tired answer about it's different for public vs private, please don't. How a school is funded with tuition or tax dollars makes absolutely no difference and no sense in the discussion. I'd like to hear a better reason why Express coaches get away with the conflict of interest scrutiny yet other high school coaches don't get the same free pass. Let's hear it.
You dont have to attend St Anthonys, Chaminade, Kellenberg etc.
You have to attend your public town high school or move. I'd say there is quite a difference
On one level there is no difference -- if you want to play lax and go to one of those private schools, and you are pressured to pony up for the coach's private summer lax team (or perhaps you won't play for the high school), then that would be a serious conflict of interest since the coach would be using his/her school position to coerce students and their families (not saying this happens, I don't know, but it is certainly possible).
The lack of an alternative when the same thing happens in public schools makes that situation somewhat worse, but the conflict can exist on both the public and private levels.
And frankly, once your kid is at the school he is at, he isn't going to switch to the local public school after year or two because the lacrosse coach wants you to pay him $1000 to play for his summer team. You'd pay the $1000 or not. Just like if this happened with the public school coach.
Chaminade or St. Anthony's (or any private school) does not take kids based on where they play summer lacrosse. Kids are accepted based on how well they do on the Catholic School Entrance Exam. So if a kid was playing on Jesters, Outlaws, or 91 from 3rd grade through 8th grade - those two schools would not have had an impact on where a player plays during that time period.
However, when a HS coach is running a travel program that has a town bias like 32 and Liberty do in Manhasset, or like Yellow Jackets have in Northport, or like Ward Melville, West Islip and Northport on the boys side - then there is a conflict of interest. In many cases these same coaches are also teachers or phys ed teachers in the same schools. When you have current teachers wearing their club gear in school and also make "offhand comments" to kids about where they are playing, then that is a conflict of interest.
If a catholic scholl parent "feels" their kid will have a better chance of playing at Chaminade or St. Anthony's and they have their kid play for Express - well that isa decision to do so. It is not a decision that is forced on them. There are plenty of kids who play on other travel programs and still play at Chaminade of St. A's. However, at the public HS level - it is my opinion that is different and it is more of a conflict because our kids are not going to private school and they are definitely feeling the pressure to play for their coaches travel program.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not every age group is open to out of town boys check the web site
Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.
How is it a conflict of interest for Cherry but it's ok for the coaches at St Anthony's and Kellenberg with Express. And before somebody drags out the old and tired answer about it's different for public vs private, please don't. How a school is funded with tuition or tax dollars makes absolutely no difference and no sense in the discussion. I'd like to hear a better reason why Express coaches get away with the conflict of interest scrutiny yet other high school coaches don't get the same free pass. Let's hear it.
You dont have to attend St Anthonys, Chaminade, Kellenberg etc.
You have to attend your public town high school or move. I'd say there is quite a difference
On one level there is no difference -- if you want to play lax and go to one of those private schools, and you are pressured to pony up for the coach's private summer lax team (or perhaps you won't play for the high school), then that would be a serious conflict of interest since the coach would be using his/her school position to coerce students and their families (not saying this happens, I don't know, but it is certainly possible).
The lack of an alternative when the same thing happens in public schools makes that situation somewhat worse, but the conflict can exist on both the public and private levels.
And frankly, once your kid is at the school he is at, he isn't going to switch to the local public school after year or two because the lacrosse coach wants you to pay him $1000 to play for his summer team. You'd pay the $1000 or not. Just like if this happened with the public school coach.
Chaminade or St. Anthony's (or any private school) does not take kids based on where they play summer lacrosse. Kids are accepted based on how well they do on the Catholic School Entrance Exam. So if a kid was playing on Jesters, Outlaws, or 91 from 3rd grade through 8th grade - those two schools would not have had an impact on where a player plays during that time period.
However, when a HS coach is running a travel program that has a town bias like 32 and Liberty do in Manhasset, or like Yellow Jackets have in Northport, or like Ward Melville, West Islip and Northport on the boys side - then there is a conflict of interest. In many cases these same coaches are also teachers or phys ed teachers in the same schools. When you have current teachers wearing their club gear in school and also make "offhand comments" to kids about where they are playing, then that is a conflict of interest.
If a catholic scholl parent "feels" their kid will have a better chance of playing at Chaminade or St. Anthony's and they have their kid play for Express - well that isa decision to do so. It is not a decision that is forced on them. There are plenty of kids who play on other travel programs and still play at Chaminade of St. A's. However, at the public HS level - it is my opinion that is different and it is more of a conflict because our kids are not going to private school and they are definitely feeling the pressure to play for their coaches travel program.
Why not lump West islip into it, for the youth grades you will also take players not from your town and for the HS years you will not let your top players (to avg players) play elsewhere. Then again why would top players want to play elsewhere.
Why doesn't Express have a presence at St John the Baptist? Could this be 91's or the new Legacy's chance to get a catholic HS on board with an organization.
Why doesn't Express have a presence at St John the Baptist? Could this be 91's or the new Legacy's chance to get a catholic HS on board with an organization.
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Also a serious conflict of interest with Danielle Gallagher, Manhasset GIRLS VARSITY coach and LIBERTY owner/director.
Saw her strutting around the other day at Manhasset in her Liberty jacket and sweats. Is she still a teacher there?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why not lump West islip into it, for the youth grades you will also take players not from your town and for the HS years you will not let your top players (to avg players) play elsewhere. Then again why would top players want to play elsewhere.
Why doesn't Express have a presence at St John the Baptist? Could this be 91's or the new Legacy's chance to get a catholic HS on board with an organization.
Why doesn't Express have a presence at St John the Baptist? Could this be 91's or the new Legacy's chance to get a catholic HS on board with an organization.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not every age group is open to out of town boys check the web site
Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.
How is it a conflict of interest for Cherry but it's ok for the coaches at St Anthony's and Kellenberg with Express. And before somebody drags out the old and tired answer about it's different for public vs private, please don't. How a school is funded with tuition or tax dollars makes absolutely no difference and no sense in the discussion. I'd like to hear a better reason why Express coaches get away with the conflict of interest scrutiny yet other high school coaches don't get the same free pass. Let's hear it.
You dont have to attend St Anthonys, Chaminade, Kellenberg etc.
You have to attend your public town high school or move. I'd say there is quite a difference
On one level there is no difference -- if you want to play lax and go to one of those private schools, and you are pressured to pony up for the coach's private summer lax team (or perhaps you won't play for the high school), then that would be a serious conflict of interest since the coach would be using his/her school position to coerce students and their families (not saying this happens, I don't know, but it is certainly possible).
The lack of an alternative when the same thing happens in public schools makes that situation somewhat worse, but the conflict can exist on both the public and private levels.
And frankly, once your kid is at the school he is at, he isn't going to switch to the local public school after year or two because the lacrosse coach wants you to pay him $1000 to play for his summer team. You'd pay the $1000 or not. Just like if this happened with the public school coach.
Chaminade or St. Anthony's (or any private school) does not take kids based on where they play summer lacrosse. Kids are accepted based on how well they do on the Catholic School Entrance Exam. So if a kid was playing on Jesters, Outlaws, or 91 from 3rd grade through 8th grade - those two schools would not have had an impact on where a player plays during that time period.
However, when a HS coach is running a travel program that has a town bias like 32 and Liberty do in Manhasset, or like Yellow Jackets have in Northport, or like Ward Melville, West Islip and Northport on the boys side - then there is a conflict of interest. In many cases these same coaches are also teachers or phys ed teachers in the same schools. When you have current teachers wearing their club gear in school and also make "offhand comments" to kids about where they are playing, then that is a conflict of interest.
If a catholic scholl parent "feels" their kid will have a better chance of playing at Chaminade or St. Anthony's and they have their kid play for Express - well that isa decision to do so. It is not a decision that is forced on them. There are plenty of kids who play on other travel programs and still play at Chaminade of St. A's. However, at the public HS level - it is my opinion that is different and it is more of a conflict because our kids are not going to private school and they are definitely feeling the pressure to play for their coaches travel program.
There is not a single starter on St Anthony's JV or varsity that doesn't play for Express. It is an unwritten requirement and the pressure is huge to play for Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not every age group is open to out of town boys check the web site
Bill is a great guy. But this is a real conflict of interest. No two ways about it.
How is it a conflict of interest for Cherry but it's ok for the coaches at St Anthony's and Kellenberg with Express. And before somebody drags out the old and tired answer about it's different for public vs private, please don't. How a school is funded with tuition or tax dollars makes absolutely no difference and no sense in the discussion. I'd like to hear a better reason why Express coaches get away with the conflict of interest scrutiny yet other high school coaches don't get the same free pass. Let's hear it.
You dont have to attend St Anthonys, Chaminade, Kellenberg etc.
You have to attend your public town high school or move. I'd say there is quite a difference
On one level there is no difference -- if you want to play lax and go to one of those private schools, and you are pressured to pony up for the coach's private summer lax team (or perhaps you won't play for the high school), then that would be a serious conflict of interest since the coach would be using his/her school position to coerce students and their families (not saying this happens, I don't know, but it is certainly possible).
The lack of an alternative when the same thing happens in public schools makes that situation somewhat worse, but the conflict can exist on both the public and private levels.
And frankly, once your kid is at the school he is at, he isn't going to switch to the local public school after year or two because the lacrosse coach wants you to pay him $1000 to play for his summer team. You'd pay the $1000 or not. Just like if this happened with the public school coach.
Chaminade or St. Anthony's (or any private school) does not take kids based on where they play summer lacrosse. Kids are accepted based on how well they do on the Catholic School Entrance Exam. So if a kid was playing on Jesters, Outlaws, or 91 from 3rd grade through 8th grade - those two schools would not have had an impact on where a player plays during that time period.
However, when a HS coach is running a travel program that has a town bias like 32 and Liberty do in Manhasset, or like Yellow Jackets have in Northport, or like Ward Melville, West Islip and Northport on the boys side - then there is a conflict of interest. In many cases these same coaches are also teachers or phys ed teachers in the same schools. When you have current teachers wearing their club gear in school and also make "offhand comments" to kids about where they are playing, then that is a conflict of interest.
If a catholic scholl parent "feels" their kid will have a better chance of playing at Chaminade or St. Anthony's and they have their kid play for Express - well that isa decision to do so. It is not a decision that is forced on them. There are plenty of kids who play on other travel programs and still play at Chaminade of St. A's. However, at the public HS level - it is my opinion that is different and it is more of a conflict because our kids are not going to private school and they are definitely feeling the pressure to play for their coaches travel program.
All of the STARTERS at St Ants play Express because the "have" to - unwritten rule. On the other hand, the kids who have no chance of ever starting are free to play wherever they want although many of their delusional parents will still feel forced to join express hoping that it will make a difference - it won't. The Express directors should step down from St. Ant's or vice versa.
All of the STARTERS at St Ants play Express because the "have" to - unwritten rule. On the other hand, the kids who have no chance of ever starting are free to play wherever they want although many of their delusional parents will still feel forced to join express hoping that it will make a difference - it won't. The Express directors should step down from St. Ant's or vice versa. [/quote]
At least two kids from fl$ play for St. Anthony's. So, I'm not certain this statement is correct.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Also a serious conflict of interest with Danielle Gallagher, Manhasset GIRLS VARSITY coach and LIBERTY owner/director.
Saw her strutting around the other day at Manhasset in her Liberty jacket and sweats. Is she still a teacher there?
she has never taught in Manhasset (K-12)
Can I add a correction, the captain of the JV team last year, did not play for Express he played for Outlaws and the year before played for the No Limit Ballers and that did not affect his position at St. Anthony's at all. Let's face it, the coaches want to win and will play their best players no matter what! At the end of the day, politics step aside and the best players play to win.
Would it be to much to ask how many teams express has per age, the level they will play, roster size and who the coaches are.
This also works in reverse, many kids play express who do not play for St. Ants or Chaminade or Kellenberg.
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Would it be to much to ask how many teams express has per age, the level they will play, roster size and who the coaches are.
Yes...it would be too much to ask...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Would it be to much to ask how many teams express has per age, the level they will play, roster size and who the coaches are.
Yes...it would be too much to ask...
20223 - 2
2022 - 2
2021 - 2
2020 - 3
2019 - 2
2018 - 3
2017 - 4 (includes the turtles)
2016 - 3
2015 - 2
2015 had three teams last summer Orange, Blue and White.
If you include the turtles 2017 last summer had 5 teams. Did they cut back on a team this year? Was Turtles, Terps Black, Terps, Wolverines, and Phiranas.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All of the STARTERS at St Ants play Express because the "have" to - unwritten rule. On the other hand, the kids who have no chance of ever starting are free to play wherever they want although many of their delusional parents will still feel forced to join express hoping that it will make a difference - it won't. The Express directors should step down from St. Ant's or vice versa.
What grade is your son at at St A's and which coach forced him to play Express? Please tell us and name. If you can't you should then retract your statement as hearsay
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All of the STARTERS at St Ants play Express because the "have" to - unwritten rule. On the other hand, the kids who have no chance of ever starting are free to play wherever they want although many of their delusional parents will still feel forced to join express hoping that it will make a difference - it won't. The Express directors should step down from St. Ant's or vice versa.
What grade is your son at at St A's and which coach forced him to play Express? Please tell us and name. If you can't you should then retract your statement as hearsay
this is not true.
My son may go to St Anthony's in the future. Just curious who the coaches at St Anthony's are that are also part of Express.
If you have a kid that is hands down the best, of course the kid will play. If you have kids that are relatively equal or one is even somewhat better than other - the summer teams definitely come into play because the coaches are already familiar with these kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son may go to St Anthony's in the future. Just curious who the coaches at St Anthony's are that are also part of Express.
Varsity and JV and some assts.
Go to express website and click on the directors tab. Chaminade and St. Ants well represented.
Are they all still the same coaches. I had heard there were some changes. My son will either go to Trinity or Kellenberg. Isn't the head of Express at one of these schools now?
Mike Schwalje is Head Coach at Kellenberg>
Was the LIE 2016 team at the UMD Terp Classic their best team? I saw them and they looked awful. If that's LIE's best 2016 team, it's a huge fall from the team they had a few years ago.
Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).
Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).
Don't be such a homer. Not all the best stay at 'set. Every year 2-4 boys go to Chami that would start at Manhasset and probably a total of 6 that would play at Manhasset. And some boys stay at Manhasset out of fear they wouldn't play at Chaminade. This isn't a knock on Manhasset which is a great school and lacrosse program but it the truth. Manhasset should be proud of it's boys at Chaminade. Like Ranger Jimmy Regan!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was the LIE 2016 team at the UMD Terp Classic their best team? I saw them and they looked awful. If that's LIE's best 2016 team, it's a huge fall from the team they had a few years ago.
Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).
Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).
If you're from MD or PA, I'm sure they did their best against your son's 2016 team, that is without a doubt loaded with kids that are 17 and 18 years old. Yeah, I know same old refrain... You folks just don't like to hear the truth. They're all 2016's... blah, blah, blah, MD and PA teams play down.
Regan was one of the last great Manhasset player to play at Chaminade. None of the kids from set that have gone to Chaminade since then have been impact players and they would not have played if they stayed at Set. That continues to be the case.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Regan was one of the last great Manhasset player to play at Chaminade. None of the kids from set that have gone to Chaminade since then have been impact players and they would not have played if they stayed at Set. That continues to be the case.
Nothing but great things to say about Regan but the rest of your statement is idiotic.
Why don't you check it out for yourself. Those are the facts. The good lacrosse players do not leave Set. You can't name a starter for Chaminade from Set in the last 4 yrs probably longer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Regan was one of the last great Manhasset player to play at Chaminade. None of the kids from set that have gone to Chaminade since then have been impact players and they would not have played if they stayed at Set. That continues to be the case.
It's stupid statements like that that make me hate the town even more than I already do!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was the LIE 2016 team at the UMD Terp Classic their best team? I saw them and they looked awful. If that's LIE's best 2016 team, it's a huge fall from the team they had a few years ago.
Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).
Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).
If you're from MD or PA, I'm sure they did their best against your son's 2016 team, that is without a doubt loaded with kids that are 17 and 18 years old. Yeah, I know same old refrain... You folks just don't like to hear the truth. They're all 2016's... blah, blah, blah, MD and PA teams play down.
1. None of our kids have repeated or are 16, let alone 17 or 18.
2. When you make blanket statements like that, you look like an idiot.
3. The Express 2016 team looked horrible, so I have to assume that is not LIE's best team. I know the Barracudda team two years ago was a one time thing, but man - that 2016 team has really gone downhill.
4. Did a bunch of guys leave for other programs? That's the only explanation I can think of to explain how bad they looked.
Hate the town or not .....it's the truth.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why don't you check it out for yourself. Those are the facts. The good lacrosse players do not leave Set. You can't name a starter for Chaminade from Set in the last 4 yrs probably longer.
Tyler & Locan Dunn
Mike & Jack Brennan
Matt Wysota
James Roberts
Chris Comerford
Matty & Ian Gillen
Matt COnway
Will Himler
Tom Keane
Andrew and Dan Morici
John Hannan
JP Sullivan
Bill Coughlin
Mike Machassalla
Ricky Dicicco
MKevin Young
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was the LIE 2016 team at the UMD Terp Classic their best team? I saw them and they looked awful. If that's LIE's best 2016 team, it's a huge fall from the team they had a few years ago.
Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).
Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).
If you're from MD or PA, I'm sure they did their best against your son's 2016 team, that is without a doubt loaded with kids that are 17 and 18 years old. Yeah, I know same old refrain... You folks just don't like to hear the truth. They're all 2016's... blah, blah, blah, MD and PA teams play down.
1. None of our kids have repeated or are 16, let alone 17 or 18.
2. When you make blanket statements like that, you look like an idiot.
3. The Express 2016 team looked horrible, so I have to assume that is not LIE's best team. I know the Barracudda team two years ago was a one time thing, but man - that 2016 team has really gone downhill.
4. Did a bunch of guys leave for other programs? That's the only explanation I can think of to explain how bad they looked.
Most MD and PA kids play down. You can dispute it all you want, just a fact. Express has 3 or 4 teams at the age. What super team does your little Rabil play for?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hate the town or not .....it's the truth.
Manhasset plays low level teams in their league and would get killed if they played chaminade. oh wait, they did!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hate the town or not .....it's the truth.
Manhasset plays low level teams in their league and would get killed if they played chaminade. oh wait, they did!
Chaminade has 500 boys to choose from for each grade, Manhasset doesn't have that many kids in a grade! Per Capita, Manhasset lacrosse is as good as it gets.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hate the town or not .....it's the truth.
Manhasset plays low level teams in their league and would get killed if they played chaminade. oh wait, they did!
I didn't realize that the Marianist Brothers let their boys troll on websites during the middle of the school day. Wait.. am I mistaken? You are actually someone living vicariously through your child and behaving like a child!
Both Chaminade and Manhasset have great programs and both teams play strong competition each and every year.
Chaminade and Manhasset have played each other 6 times over the past 6 years and each has won 3 games.
Of course Chaminade does have a male student population of 1700 or so as compared to Manhasset's 500 or so...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was the LIE 2016 team at the UMD Terp Classic their best team? I saw them and they looked awful. If that's LIE's best 2016 team, it's a huge fall from the team they had a few years ago.
Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).
Was that a B team, or has LIE lost a ton of players (from the 2016 class, at least).
If you're from MD or PA, I'm sure they did their best against your son's 2016 team, that is without a doubt loaded with kids that are 17 and 18 years old. Yeah, I know same old refrain... You folks just don't like to hear the truth. They're all 2016's... blah, blah, blah, MD and PA teams play down.
1. None of our kids have repeated or are 16, let alone 17 or 18.
2. When you make blanket statements like that, you look like an idiot.
3. The Express 2016 team looked horrible, so I have to assume that is not LIE's best team. I know the Barracudda team two years ago was a one time thing, but man - that 2016 team has really gone downhill.
4. Did a bunch of guys leave for other programs? That's the only explanation I can think of to explain how bad they looked.
Most MD and PA kids play down. You can dispute it all you want, just a fact. Express has 3 or 4 teams at the age. What super team does your little Rabil play for?
Wrong. There is nobody on our team that was held back. The paranoia you NO guys have is unbelievable.
You are clueless!!! Sorry your list is wrong not going to mention names (naming kids should be off limits)but some of them play for Set and not Chaminade. Most of the rest would not have started at Set. Again most of the best players in Set stay there. Why is that so bad or difficult to understand. You obviously don't live there or you would know better. Let it be. They are all great kids. It doesn't matter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are clueless!!! Sorry your list is wrong not going to mention names (naming kids should be off limits)but some of them play for Set and not Chaminade. Most of the rest would not have started at Set. Again most of the best players in Set stay there. Why is that so bad or difficult to understand. You obviously don't live there or you would know better. Let it be. They are all great kids. It doesn't matter.
The list was in a response to comment that "no one" from Manhasset has played or started at Chaminade in recent years. These boys all did (see LAX Power recruits). There wasn't anything derogatory mentioned about any of the boys. The fact is: Manhasset has sent many fine lacrosse players to Chaminade.
Many many fine boys stay in Manhasset and play for the town high school.
As far as the particulars of these boys, they all did play for Chaminade. The fact that I mentioned their names is not in violation of this Board's rules as they were only mentioned in the best light.
Now, your own tone suggests that, if you were to mention a boys name in a posting, it would not be presented in the best light and used for negative purposes.
BTW A Manhasset resident with children throughout and through the public school system. You shouldn;t make assumptions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are clueless!!! Sorry your list is wrong not going to mention names (naming kids should be off limits)but some of them play for Set and not Chaminade. Most of the rest would not have started at Set. Again most of the best players in Set stay there. Why is that so bad or difficult to understand. You obviously don't live there or you would know better. Let it be. They are all great kids. It doesn't matter.
At least 2 if not 3 on that list of Manhasset kids will start for Chaminade's varsity this coming Spring. These are big losses for a school as small as Set. Every year it's an uphill battle for Set to piece together at every position on the field. Set will run up the stats and their record will be decievinly good against lynbrook, floral park etc. but will increasingly have a tough time against virtual county all-star teams like Chammy and in other games against great competition. Witness last year's County final aginst GC - over in the first 5 min. And I agree, not all of the kids on the list went (or currently attend) Chaminade.
Set will be fine ....just ask GC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Set will be fine ....just ask GC
Manhasset beat GC last year, they split the season series. Also, GC is a much bigger school - based on public stats, GC has 1,152 students vs. Manhasset's 785 (seems low).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Set will be fine ....just ask GC
Manhasset beat GC last year, they split the season series. Also, GC is a much bigger school - based on public stats, GC has 1,152 students vs. Manhasset's 785 (seems low).
What's the chip on your shoulder about Chaminade?
Looks like "Quality Manhasset laxers at Chaminade: Fact or Fiction" need its own thread. How come the Garden City and RVC dads aren't whining about Chaminade defectors who really aren't good enough to play for their school team? I guess I better take the Chaminade lax sticker of the SUV before it gets keyed.
That's because the reality of it is Manhasset kids that go to Chaminade aren't going to play there. They will make the team but they aren't going to play much if at all. They would not have played at Set either. Why because for the last couple years the best lax players from Set stay at Set. There is no reason for them to go to elsewhere. It's very simple and continues to be the case.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Set will be fine ....just ask GC
Manhasset beat GC last year, they split the season series. Also, GC is a much bigger school - based on public stats, GC has 1,152 students vs. Manhasset's 785 (seems low).
I was at both games and the County Championship was a fluke - Manhasset was asleep and took for granted that GC was not a strong team. One middie had the game of his career for GC. The Woodstick showed the level that both teams were really at. na na na na na - we are rubber baby and your glue, it bounces off us and sticks to you
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Set will be fine ....just ask GC
Manhasset beat GC last year, they split the season series. Also, GC is a much bigger school - based on public stats, GC has 1,152 students vs. Manhasset's 785 (seems low).
Upsets are what makes sports in general great events. GC was supposed to win but they lost, so Manhasset was better on that day. Don't make excuses, accept the loss and move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Set will be fine ....just ask GC
Manhasset beat GC last year, they split the season series. Also, GC is a much bigger school - based on public stats, GC has 1,152 students vs. Manhasset's 785 (seems low).
Upsets are what makes sports in general great events. GC was supposed to win but they lost, so Manhasset was better on that day. Don't make excuses, accept the loss and move on.
What would you rather have? County/L.I./State Champs or Woodstick? Na na na n na...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like "Quality Manhasset laxers at Chaminade: Fact or Fiction" need its own thread. How come the Garden City and RVC dads aren't whining about Chaminade defectors who really aren't good enough to play for their school team? I guess I better take the Chaminade lax sticker of the SUV before it gets keyed.
Agree. You certainly don't play at Chaminade because you have no other options. I can think of two kids current collegiate players right now from GC (one at Harvard and one at Yale) who opted for Chaminade over GC High. They not only would have played at GC but been superstars......and there are many, many others. The real positive is the choices available for the kids...
The other factor not mentioned is, have you been to GC ?? All the girls are pale with red hair and freckles I'd opt for all boys too given those choices
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Set will be fine ....just ask GC
Manhasset beat GC last year, they split the season series. Also, GC is a much bigger school - based on public stats, GC has 1,152 students vs. Manhasset's 785 (seems low).
Upsets are what makes sports in general great events. GC was supposed to win but they lost, so Manhasset was better on that day. Don't make excuses, accept the loss and move on.
What would you rather have? County/L.I./State Champs or Woodstick? Na na na n na...
Who cares. It is an Express thread and nobody is interested in a high school game from 6 months ago. Talk about something relevant. Like did you see Channy's new 2020 NYC team or the 2018 Terps got humbled a bit - but will bounce back. Etc
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The other factor not mentioned is, have you been to GC ?? All the girls are pale with red hair and freckles I'd opt for all boys too given those choices
The good news is you're priced out of GC (and Manhasset) and can't afford Chaminade, so your kids don't have to worry about it!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Set will be fine ....just ask GC
Manhasset beat GC last year, they split the season series. Also, GC is a much bigger school - based on public stats, GC has 1,152 students vs. Manhasset's 785 (seems low).
Upsets are what makes sports in general great events. GC was supposed to win but they lost, so Manhasset was better on that day. Don't make excuses, accept the loss and move on.
What would you rather have? County/L.I./State Champs or Woodstick? Na na na n na...
Who cares. It is an Express thread and nobody is interested in a high school game from 6 months ago. Talk about something relevant. Like did you see Channy's new 2020 NYC team or the 2018 Terps got humbled a bit - but will bounce back. Etc
Is the NYC team only for 2020? Were these players on Express last year and chose to form a team that may practice closer to home?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The other factor not mentioned is, have you been to GC ?? All the girls are pale with red hair and freckles I'd opt for all boys too given those choices
The good news is you're priced out of GC (and Manhasset) and can't afford Chaminade, so your kids don't have to worry about it!
Said the red heads dad
these d-bags have something against the Irish? How about you come down to Murphy's on a Friday night and open your mouth. Punk! Sorry had to say it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
these d-bags have something against the Irish? How about you come down to Murphy's on a Friday night and open your mouth. Punk! Sorry had to say it.
Anyone who posts a follow-up with any further ethnic references will be banned without further warning.
Anyone know when the invites went out for last week's 2015 and 2016 tryouts?
Just sent out. Does anyone know how many teams or the quality of the teams?
I too am wondering how many 2016 teams Express has?
Does anyone know team order ?
Barracudas first team
Piranhas second team
Terps third team
Also heard they took over 35 to 40 kids on the barracudas why would they do that.
Piranhas second team
Terps third team
Also heard they took over 35 to 40 kids on the barracudas why would they do that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Barracudas first team
Piranhas second team
Terps third team
Also heard they took over 35 to 40 kids on the barracudas why would they do that.
Piranhas second team
Terps third team
Also heard they took over 35 to 40 kids on the barracudas why would they do that.
THAT TEAM WILL BE SPLIT INTO AN A AND B JUST LIKE TERPS AND TERPS BLACK....= ....MO' MONEY
So there are 4 2016 teams and one has 40 kids??
Anyone know the size of the Pirhana and Terps teams? Someone commented that Terps will be Terps and Terps Black, so is this a big group also and getting split again like last year?
There were mistakes in email invites. It will be interesting to see what happens. There were kids who were invited to Barracudas that didn't make that team. I guess that's why there were so many on it. There were kids that didn't make their high school team that made the cudas so that doesn't make sense.
Does anyone know which team is the Top 2019 team for the express?
Wolverines
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know which team is the Top 2019 team for the express?
Is Express hosting a Tournament this year? I have heard some talk about something in the summer of 2014. good luck. hopefully all the MD Clubs return the favor and send some teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Express hosting a Tournament this year? I have heard some talk about something in the summer of 2014. good luck. hopefully all the MD Clubs return the favor and send some teams.
On the 91 website, some of their teams are going to the LI Express Clash on 6/28 & 6/29. Of course being an Express parent, I would expect 91 to have that info first. Go figure..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wolverines
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know which team is the Top 2019 team for the express?
Thank you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know which team is the Top 2019 team for the express?
Wolverines weak team. Didn't win a single championship during 2013 summer travel season. They lost some stringer players in the fall to other programs
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know which team is the Top 2019 team for the express?
Wolverines weak team. Didn't win a single championship during 2013 summer travel season. They lost some stringer players in the fall to other programs
This keeps popping up. Why is a team considered a weak team if they do not win a championship? Werent they in very strong tournaments and generally when they lost it was by a few goals. How many LI teams actually won tournaments. How do other teams compare to Express that 91 O and Dune Dawgs played. Are they that much better than Express to label Wolverines a weak team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Express hosting a Tournament this year? I have heard some talk about something in the summer of 2014. good luck. hopefully all the MD Clubs return the favor and send some teams.
On the 91 website, some of their teams are going to the LI Express Clash on 6/28 & 6/29. Of course being an Express parent, I would expect 91 to have that info first. Go figure..
It's the sister tournament to the Big4 champions league that is being played the week before at Penn Charter HS in Philly. Both tournaments are limited to 8 top teams with a 5 game guarantee.
Anyone get any news from the 2nd express tryout? My daughter tried out, but we haven't heard. She also made YJ yellow (2nd team), but I wanted to know where she ended up with Express before we committed to YJ.
The 2019 terps are better then the wolverines this year. They should be the A team. They will not play the terps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone get any news from the 2nd express tryout? My daughter tried out, but we haven't heard. She also made YJ yellow (2nd team), but I wanted to know where she ended up with Express before we committed to YJ.
Tough decision. You could have your daughter play on Express and in a year explain to her that the directors don't really care about girls and that boys are much more important or you could have her play in 2nd YJ team and in a year you can explain to her that the game is about winning at all costs and she will never be on the top team if she is not politically connected.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone get any news from the 2nd express tryout? My daughter tried out, but we haven't heard. She also made YJ yellow (2nd team), but I wanted to know where she ended up with Express before we committed to YJ.
Tough decision. You could have your daughter play on Express and in a year explain to her that the directors don't really care about girls and that boys are much more important or you could have her play in 2nd YJ team and in a year you can explain to her that the game is about winning at all costs and she will never be on the top team if she is not politically connected.
Well I guess it will be Yellow Jackets, since there are three teams in her age division and she is on the 2nd team, and her YJ coach is a top notch HS coach (a varsity coach with championships who gets the most out of her players), so
her team will get outstanding instruction. Making winning a priority isn't necessarily a bad thing. After speaking to a few parents who have had this same coach, my decision has been made.
Could someone from Express please let us know when people will start being notified as to when we can expect to hear the results of the last tryout? We were told 'after chistmas' at the clinic, but that's a pretty big window. Thanks!
Call them! they answer and will tell you. QUESTIONS: Mike Chanenchuk Boys 631.514.4246
Can anyone advise how many kids were at the latest Express try-out?
Can anyone advise why they needed this additional try-out?
Is it for additional teams OR because people haven't paid up for spring 2014?
Can anyone advise why they needed this additional try-out?
Is it for additional teams OR because people haven't paid up for spring 2014?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone get any news from the 2nd express tryout? My daughter tried out, but we haven't heard. She also made YJ yellow (2nd team), but I wanted to know where she ended up with Express before we committed to YJ.
Tough decision. You could have your daughter play on Express and in a year explain to her that the directors don't really care about girls and that boys are much more important or you could have her play in 2nd YJ team and in a year you can explain to her that the game is about winning at all costs and she will never be on the top team if she is not politically connected.
Well I guess it will be Yellow Jackets, since there are three teams in her age division and she is on the 2nd team, and her YJ coach is a top notch HS coach (a varsity coach with championships who gets the most out of her players), so
her team will get outstanding instruction. Making winning a priority isn't necessarily a bad thing. After speaking to a few parents who have had this same coach, my decision has been made.
Honestly, I think your daughter will get more out of YJ. Any club that fields both genders has yet to do well by both sides, IMO. Good luck!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone get any news from the 2nd express tryout? My daughter tried out, but we haven't heard. She also made YJ yellow (2nd team), but I wanted to know where she ended up with Express before we committed to YJ.
Tough decision. You could have your daughter play on Express and in a year explain to her that the directors don't really care about girls and that boys are much more important or you could have her play in 2nd YJ team and in a year you can explain to her that the game is about winning at all costs and she will never be on the top team if she is not politically connected.
Well I guess it will be Yellow Jackets, since there are three teams in her age division and she is on the 2nd team, and her YJ coach is a top notch HS coach (a varsity coach with championships who gets the most out of her players), so
her team will get outstanding instruction. Making winning a priority isn't necessarily a bad thing. After speaking to a few parents who have had this same coach, my decision has been made.
Good call.
Galasso only broke the UNC freshman scoring record. On top of that I believe he was the leading scorer on a team that included Billy Bitter. Injuries are injuries. He has 2 years left. Give the kid a break
Man up goals......bust......early commit....
Great high school career though
Great high school career though
Originally Posted by Roy Mange
Galasso only broke the UNC freshman scoring record. On top of that I believe he was the leading scorer on a team that included Billy Bitter. Injuries are injuries. He has 2 years left. Give the kid a break
who are you responding to?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone get any news from the 2nd express tryout? My daughter tried out, but we haven't heard. She also made YJ yellow (2nd team), but I wanted to know where she ended up with Express before we committed to YJ.
What age group?
Any truth toi the rumor that the Top Express 2020 team is seeking a goalie? That's the rumor I've heard from several sources Somebody get hurt?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any truth toi the rumor that the Top Express 2020 team is seeking a goalie? That's the rumor I've heard from several sources Somebody get hurt?
They had 2 in FLorida and wouldn't they just pull up the goalie from the team under them?
You are misinformed on the 2020 goal situation.
When I was down in FLA, I heard the same. I was told they were looking to upgrade the position and that's why they were looking outside the organization
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When I was down in FLA, I heard the same. I was told they were looking to upgrade the position and that's why they were looking outside the organization
You're an idiot.
Rumor has it Team 91 Crish has posted it's 2014 Schdule. I guess you guys can now feel free to go ahead and schedule around them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor has it Team 91 Crish has posted it's 2014 Schdule. I guess you guys can now feel free to go ahead and schedule around them
Express had schedules out last week.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor has it Team 91 Crish has posted it's 2014 Schdule. I guess you guys can now feel free to go ahead and schedule around them
Who is the "Crish?"
You know the saying, "if you can't stop their shots, correct their spelling"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor has it Team 91 Crish has posted it's 2014 Schdule. I guess you guys can now feel free to go ahead and schedule around them
Who is the "Crish?"
look on your keyboard next to i.
This post has to be written by one of the many unrefined parents on Crush! Probably one of the moms with stone washed jeans and those hideous pink 91 sweatshirts. You know who you are and so do we!! Talk about living life through your son.
Express schedules been out since a few weeks ago
Rumor has it......
Rumor has it......
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor has it Team 91 Crish has posted it's 2014 Schdule. I guess you guys can now feel free to go ahead and schedule around them
Who is the "Crish?"
look on your keyboard next to i.
"Crosh?"
I guess I'd try to forget the name too. That's ok You can just call them "Your Daddy" Of "the team we can't seem to beat" or "Those guys that keep kicking our butts" "the shooters we can't stop" shall I continue?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess I'd try to forget the name too. That's ok You can just call them "Your Daddy" Of "the team we can't seem to beat" or "Those guys that keep kicking our butts" "the shooters we can't stop" shall I continue?
Yes, please continue...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess I'd try to forget the name too. That's ok You can just call them "Your Daddy" Of "the team we can't seem to beat" or "Those guys that keep kicking our butts" "the shooters we can't stop" shall I continue?
Yes, please continue...
Really...I hope you're all joking. If yes, funny. If not, then I don't know what.
What did those who attended the late session of the clinic last night think? I thought it was pretty solid. They combined several age groups for this week only (2015-2018).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What did those who attended the late session of the clinic last night think? I thought it was pretty solid. They combined several age groups for this week only (2015-2018).
Just Great. Plus the boys had every director there running the practice.
what a suck up
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what a suck up
how exactly does one suck anonymously.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what a suck up
how exactly does one suck anonymously.
My son doesn't even play for express and he went. It was great. How often do you get the head coach of nade and St Ants together at the same time teaching your kid position specific skills for and hour and a half for $50??? My son enjoys training with great players and coaches from any club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what a suck up
how exactly does one suck anonymously.
My son doesn't even play for express and he went. It was great. How often do you get the head coach of nade and St Ants together at the same time teaching your kid position specific skills for and hour and a half for $50??? My son enjoys training with great players and coaches from any club.
Always keep the doors open. Never a bad idea to mix and mingle those training sessions.
The nice thing is you don't have to play for the Express to attend. It is open to all. So if you're son is going Kellenburg, St. As or Chaminade - and you don't play Express you can come and know your HS coaches a bit. They were all there. A lot of non Express helmets were there.
The Express announced their schedule for next week as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The nice thing is you don't have to play for the Express to attend. It is open to all. So if you're son is going Kellenburg, St. As or Chaminade - and you don't play Express you can come and know your HS coaches a bit. They were all there. A lot of non Express helmets were there.
Big difference from week-to-week. Last week's session was much better. IMHO, I like clinics (and practices) that maximize touches. Aren't there clinics today?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The nice thing is you don't have to play for the Express to attend. It is open to all. So if you're son is going Kellenburg, St. As or Chaminade - and you don't play Express you can come and know your HS coaches a bit. They were all there. A lot of non Express helmets were there.
Big difference from week-to-week. Last week's session was much better. IMHO, I like clinics (and practices) that maximize touches. Aren't there clinics today?
Last night was a waste of $50. Not enough coaches and not enough balls. St A,s and Chaminade head coaches were nowhere to be found. then they cut it short to do a ball search for the 2 dozen balls they had. IMHO the ball search should be on their dime.
And you will be at the next session because you have to play the game.
My son attended,him and I thought all the sessions were great... Hope Express plans on running more of these before the summer. Don't understand all the negativity on these boards..
Question about the 2021 Express teams. I know Woverines are the "A" team, who is the "B" team Cuda orange or Cuda's Blue?
Thanks
Thanks
I have question for you ? Does it bother you enough to wake up at 2:35 am to come on here and ask which team is which? couldn't sleep? Maybe call Chanenchuk himself I am sure he will answer your question during normal business hours . JUST A BIG WOW... 5th grade lacrosse buddy , does it matter that much on which team is ABC in the middle of the night?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question about the 2021 Express teams. I know Woverines are the "A" team, who is the "B" team Cuda orange or Cuda's Blue?
Thanks
Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have question for you ? Does it bother you enough to wake up at 2:35 am to come on here and ask which team is which? couldn't sleep? Maybe call Chanenchuk himself I am sure he will answer your question during normal business hours . JUST A BIG WOW... 5th grade lacrosse buddy , does it matter that much on which team is ABC in the middle of the night?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question about the 2021 Express teams. I know Woverines are the "A" team, who is the "B" team Cuda orange or Cuda's Blue?
Thanks
Thanks
6:50am - shouldn't you be getting the kids ready for school and yourself ready for work?
Wolverines aren't the A team. They've just been around the longest.
Word around town has it the Barracudas team is the New 2021 "A" team for Express which Cuda team ? is Unknown as of now They are loaded with talent from a few powerhouse town programs and did see one of the two teams play during the fall. I Have not seen much other then word of mouth , but do know and seen that the Wolverines are not very good for a team who has been around for some time and has been beat by just about every town team around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wolverines aren't the A team. They've just been around the longest.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Word around town has it the Barracudas team is the New 2021 "A" team for Express which Cuda team ? is Unknown as of now They are loaded with talent from a few powerhouse town programs and did see one of the two teams play during the fall. I Have not seen much other then word of mouth , but do know and seen that the Wolverines are not very good for a team who has been around for some time and has been beat by just about every town team around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wolverines aren't the A team. They've just been around the longest.
Murry Bergtraum Graduate?
This is what is wrong with these boards a person asks a question and some coward behind an anonymous post bad mouths you. I happen to be a night worker, sorry that my schedule is not like yours. There is no need to be such an a--hole.It would be nice to meet up with you in the real world to knock your teeth in because it seems like you need a good beating
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have question for you ? Does it bother you enough to wake up at 2:35 am to come on here and ask which team is which? couldn't sleep? Maybe call Chanenchuk himself I am sure he will answer your question during normal business hours . JUST A BIG WOW... 5th grade lacrosse buddy , does it matter that much on which team is ABC in the middle of the night?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question about the 2021 Express teams. I know Woverines are the "A" team, who is the "B" team Cuda orange or Cuda's Blue?
Thanks
Thanks
I happen to be a night worker
say no more say no more nudge nudge wink wink
say no more say no more nudge nudge wink wink
So violent angry and cranky... go to sleep and dream of knocking in teeth you wet noodle !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is what is wrong with these boards a person asks a question and some coward behind an anonymous post bad mouths you. I happen to be a night worker, sorry that my schedule is not like yours. There is no need to be such an a--hole.It would be nice to meet up with you in the real world to knock your teeth in because it seems like you need a good beating
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have question for you ? Does it bother you enough to wake up at 2:35 am to come on here and ask which team is which? couldn't sleep? Maybe call Chanenchuk himself I am sure he will answer your question during normal business hours . JUST A BIG WOW... 5th grade lacrosse buddy , does it matter that much on which team is ABC in the middle of the night?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question about the 2021 Express teams. I know Woverines are the "A" team, who is the "B" team Cuda orange or Cuda's Blue?
Thanks
Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So violent angry and cranky... go to sleep and dream of knocking in teeth you wet noodle !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is what is wrong with these boards a person asks a question and some coward behind an anonymous post bad mouths you. I happen to be a night worker, sorry that my schedule is not like yours. There is no need to be such an a--hole.It would be nice to meet up with you in the real world to knock your teeth in because it seems like you need a good beating
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have question for you ? Does it bother you enough to wake up at 2:35 am to come on here and ask which team is which? couldn't sleep? Maybe call Chanenchuk himself I am sure he will answer your question during normal business hours . JUST A BIG WOW... 5th grade lacrosse buddy , does it matter that much on which team is ABC in the middle of the night?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question about the 2021 Express teams. I know Woverines are the "A" team, who is the "B" team Cuda orange or Cuda's Blue?
Thanks
Thanks
Parents are ready to knock teeth out over the name of a 5th grade sports team? Really?
Sounds like the teeth extractor is a coaches worst nightmare with his angry violent temper I am sure he is on his way of making a infamous name for himself throughout the lacrosse community.
Parents are ready to knock teeth out over the name of a 5th grade sports team? Really?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So violent angry and cranky... go to sleep and dream of knocking in teeth you wet noodle !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is what is wrong with these boards a person asks a question and some coward behind an anonymous post bad mouths you. I happen to be a night worker, sorry that my schedule is not like yours. There is no need to be such an a--hole.It would be nice to meet up with you in the real world to knock your teeth in because it seems like you need a good beating
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have question for you ? Does it bother you enough to wake up at 2:35 am to come on here and ask which team is which? couldn't sleep? Maybe call Chanenchuk himself I am sure he will answer your question during normal business hours . JUST A BIG WOW... 5th grade lacrosse buddy , does it matter that much on which team is ABC in the middle of the night?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question about the 2021 Express teams. I know Woverines are the "A" team, who is the "B" team Cuda orange or Cuda's Blue?
Thanks
Thanks
Parents are ready to knock teeth out over the name of a 5th grade sports team? Really?
Could be a coach too! Then it's a kids worst nightmare... far worse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like the teeth extractor is a coaches worst nightmare with his angry violent temper I am sure he is on his way of making a infamous name for himself throughout the lacrosse community.
Parents are ready to knock teeth out over the name of a 5th grade sports team? Really?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So violent angry and cranky... go to sleep and dream of knocking in teeth you wet noodle !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is what is wrong with these boards a person asks a question and some coward behind an anonymous post bad mouths you. I happen to be a night worker, sorry that my schedule is not like yours. There is no need to be such an a--hole.It would be nice to meet up with you in the real world to knock your teeth in because it seems like you need a good beating
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have question for you ? Does it bother you enough to wake up at 2:35 am to come on here and ask which team is which? couldn't sleep? Maybe call Chanenchuk himself I am sure he will answer your question during normal business hours . JUST A BIG WOW... 5th grade lacrosse buddy , does it matter that much on which team is ABC in the middle of the night?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question about the 2021 Express teams. I know Woverines are the "A" team, who is the "B" team Cuda orange or Cuda's Blue?
Thanks
Thanks
Parents are ready to knock teeth out over the name of a 5th grade sports team? Really?
That would belong then over on the 91 forum , as statistically speaking the reason why there has been a huge drop off of loyallty to that organization due to bad coaching ethics all around , which 91 at first denied and now after so many complaints admits by placing actual part time non parent coaches to the staff. i would say more specifically to the age group that the original poster mentioned but give or take a year up or below.
Speaking of express 2021 A team, they had a nice win vs. 91 Orange on Saturday.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Speaking of express 2021 A team, they had a nice win vs. 91 Orange on Saturday.
Is that the Wolves?
Very odd ball start of season so far , the predicted powerhouse teams are all getting loses as the competition gap has now widened tremendously !! this is what its all about , no longer one team with all the best players. The Wolves have been beaten by many no name teams including town teams but suddenly beat 91 orange , its when a team has an off day the effects will show, and in the competitive travel program world people will chip away at it ! Who knows what's in store next week the Wolves will lose to a town B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes
Season hasn't started yet. Shamrock is a nice warmup. Express is a great program for the older kids and a good instructional program for the younger kids. If you think 2021 express is a top 3 team your are crazy. Definitely an improved B team but nothing more.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Season hasn't started yet. Shamrock is a nice warmup. Express is a great program for the older kids and a good instructional program for the younger kids. If you think 2021 express is a top 3 team your are crazy. Definitely an improved B team but nothing more.
You're are wrong. The 2021 top team is an A team and can compete with the top of the food chain.
They have never beaten 91, igloo, team li, turf island (now icon) n regular season play. Actually never made it to the championship with any two of these teams playing...so at best they are #5 which makes them a B team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have never beaten 91, igloo, team li, turf island (now icon) n regular season play. Actually never made it to the championship with any two of these teams playing...so at best they are #5 which makes them a B team
***News Flash*** They just beat 91 Orange.
So then by your logic only the top 4 teams can be considered "A" teams?!
You people have nothing better to do with your lives than beat your chests over 5th grade teams? My son is now in 9th and so much will change over the next four years. Mark my words!
That is correct and the the fifth team is probably one of the top B teams. To address them beating 91 orange, I repeat they have never beat the top 4 teams in regular season play. Not talking about a fall tourney where players have conflicts, some teams have practiced over the winter some haven't, coaches try to new players at new positions etc. Maybe express will be an A team this year, too early to tell but never have been at this age.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct and the the fifth team is probably one of the top B teams. To address them beating 91 orange, I repeat they have never beat the top 4 teams in regular season play. Not talking about a fall tourney where players have conflicts, some teams have practiced over the winter some haven't, coaches try to new players at new positions etc. Maybe express will be an A team this year, too early to tell but never have been at this age.
Lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people have nothing better to do with your lives than beat your chests over 5th grade teams? My son is now in 9th and so much will change over the next four years. Mark my words!
Very true. However, given the acceleration in recruiting, be sure your child is positioned with the "right team" by the time 7th grade rolls around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct and the the fifth team is probably one of the top B teams. To address them beating 91 orange, I repeat they have never beat the top 4 teams in regular season play. Not talking about a fall tourney where players have conflicts, some teams have practiced over the winter some haven't, coaches try to new players at new positions etc. Maybe express will be an A team this year, too early to tell but never have been at this age.
So says the God of Lacrosse! All hail his mighty opinion. May we all humbly become as all knowing as him or at least become graced with his good favor
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct and the the fifth team is probably one of the top B teams. To address them beating 91 orange, I repeat they have never beat the top 4 teams in regular season play. Not talking about a fall tourney where players have conflicts, some teams have practiced over the winter some haven't, coaches try to new players at new positions etc. Maybe express will be an A team this year, too early to tell but never have been at this age.
So says the God of Lacrosse! All hail his mighty opinion. May we all humbly become as all knowing as him or at least become graced with his good favor
So says the wolverines parent who has been paying $2,000 a year for 3 years to watch his sons team avoid real competition or when forced to play a top team, get dominated. But at last there is hope, for you have beaten a partial 91 team in a fall tournament. Rejoice rejoice for your $6,000 (plus the additional cost of the helmet) has gotten your son onto a solid B team. All hail the wolves may they be part of an organization that has no dominant teams below the 8th grade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct and the the fifth team is probably one of the top B teams. To address them beating 91 orange, I repeat they have never beat the top 4 teams in regular season play. Not talking about a fall tourney where players have conflicts, some teams have practiced over the winter some haven't, coaches try to new players at new positions etc. Maybe express will be an A team this year, too early to tell but never have been at this age.
So says the God of Lacrosse! All hail his mighty opinion. May we all humbly become as all knowing as him or at least become graced with his good favor
So says the wolverines parent who has been paying $2,000 a year for 3 years to watch his sons team avoid real competition or when forced to play a top team, get dominated. But at last there is hope, for you have beaten a partial 91 team in a fall tournament. Rejoice rejoice for your $6,000 (plus the additional cost of the helmet) has gotten your son onto a solid B team. All hail the wolves may they be part of an organization that has no dominant teams below the 8th grade.
We don't need to turn this into a 91vs express debate. There are hundreds of pages which cover that topic. I don't think anyone will argue that 91 is the hot organizations right NOW and has the best teams top to bottom. These things come and go but pretty clear at the moment.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct and the the fifth team is probably one of the top B teams. To address them beating 91 orange, I repeat they have never beat the top 4 teams in regular season play. Not talking about a fall tourney where players have conflicts, some teams have practiced over the winter some haven't, coaches try to new players at new positions etc. Maybe express will be an A team this year, too early to tell but never have been at this age.
So says the God of Lacrosse! All hail his mighty opinion. May we all humbly become as all knowing as him or at least become graced with his good favor
So says the wolverines parent who has been paying $2,000 a year for 3 years to watch his sons team avoid real competition or when forced to play a top team, get dominated. But at last there is hope, for you have beaten a partial 91 team in a fall tournament. Rejoice rejoice for your $6,000 (plus the additional cost of the helmet) has gotten your son onto a solid B team. All hail the wolves may they be part of an organization that has no dominant teams below the 8th grade.
We don't need to turn this into a 91vs express debate. There are hundreds of pages which cover that topic. I don't think anyone will argue that 91 is the hot organizations right NOW and has the best teams top to bottom. These things come and go but pretty clear at the moment.
Not true where it really matters! 2017,2016!! Nice try though!
My son plays for 91.. 2K sounds kind of cheap after all is said and done... Although I did get a nice discount on a helmet, not through Lacrosse Unlimited. I did use a friend Lacrosse Unlimited Express Discount Card for some cleats a month or so ago. We both agree we pay to much for our guys to play, but the feeling of being left behind is so overwhelming that we and everyone else does it. Plus they have fun. Be well my friends, spring is almost here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct and the the fifth team is probably one of the top B teams. To address them beating 91 orange, I repeat they have never beat the top 4 teams in regular season play. Not talking about a fall tourney where players have conflicts, some teams have practiced over the winter some haven't, coaches try to new players at new positions etc. Maybe express will be an A team this year, too early to tell but never have been at this age.
So says the God of Lacrosse! All hail his mighty opinion. May we all humbly become as all knowing as him or at least become graced with his good favor
So says the wolverines parent who has been paying $2,000 a year for 3 years to watch his sons team avoid real competition or when forced to play a top team, get dominated. But at last there is hope, for you have beaten a partial 91 team in a fall tournament. Rejoice rejoice for your $6,000 (plus the additional cost of the helmet) has gotten your son onto a solid B team. All hail the wolves may they be part of an organization that has no dominant teams below the 8th grade.
We don't need to turn this into a 91vs express debate. There are hundreds of pages which cover that topic. I don't think anyone will argue that 91 is the hot organizations right NOW and has the best teams top to bottom. These things come and go but pretty clear at the moment.
Not true where it really matters! 2017,2016!! Nice try though!
I am neither an express or 91 parent but I must say those 2020 boys over at 91 are really making you think 6th grade means something. and don't tell me I am crazy but college coaches are noting those special players. BTW didn't the turtles make you think 6th and 7th were important also.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct and the the fifth team is probably one of the top B teams. To address them beating 91 orange, I repeat they have never beat the top 4 teams in regular season play. Not talking about a fall tourney where players have conflicts, some teams have practiced over the winter some haven't, coaches try to new players at new positions etc. Maybe express will be an A team this year, too early to tell but never have been at this age.
So says the God of Lacrosse! All hail his mighty opinion. May we all humbly become as all knowing as him or at least become graced with his good favor
So says the wolverines parent who has been paying $2,000 a year for 3 years to watch his sons team avoid real competition or when forced to play a top team, get dominated. But at last there is hope, for you have beaten a partial 91 team in a fall tournament. Rejoice rejoice for your $6,000 (plus the additional cost of the helmet) has gotten your son onto a solid B team. All hail the wolves may they be part of an organization that has no dominant teams below the 8th grade.
We don't need to turn this into a 91vs express debate. There are hundreds of pages which cover that topic. I don't think anyone will argue that 91 is the hot organizations right NOW and has the best teams top to bottom. These things come and go but pretty clear at the moment.
Not true where it really matters! 2017,2016!! Nice try though!
I am neither an express or 91 parent but I must say those 2020 boys over at 91 are really making you think 6th grade means something. and don't tell me I am crazy but college coaches are noting those special players. BTW didn't the turtles make you think 6th and 7th were important also.
So is the 2020 Crush Team locked up for eternity? No kid can ever gain access to the team from this point forward through HS because the current players are all so talented (gaining the attention of college coaches no less!)? Further, I guess you are saying that 91 has identified the +/- 20 best players on LI and there is nobody better out there. They may currently be the best 6th grade team....however trying to make it more than that at this point leaves you sounding, well.....crazy.
There are absolutely boys in 6h grade who may be more athletic. But that team is a machine. Will players be added, sure. Dropped, I don't know. Attrition. Look at xtreme this past year, were kids added, Sure. Were kids dropped, sure. Some saw the writting on the wall and didn't return.
Same happened to the turtles in time there was some turnover.
Same happened to the turtles in time there was some turnover.
and the point was that 6th grade lacrosse on LI may actually start to mean something. Crush has proved that it can.
Not that they have the best talent just the best team.
Not that they have the best talent just the best team.
What is the organizations response to what happen at Blatant's tournament with the 2018 team playing 2019?
Does it make a difference? We all know the answer. Their 7th grade coaches pulled out once they realized that crush was in their bracket. No need for a response from the organization. Take it for what it is and move on. That organization has some work to do at these younger ages. No need to kick them while they are down.
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What is the organizations response to what happen at Blatant's tournament with the 2018 team playing 2019?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is the organizations response to what happen at Blatant's tournament with the 2018 team playing 2019?
yes how could they send them to do that while that team was playing in the 2018 bracket at the same time. How could they send the same team to play in both bracket with no break?
Kick who? The team that showed and playing down or the team that no showed or poor little Express who laughed all the way to the bank. I guess Express isn't going to apologize, admit or even address this incident. The Long Island lacrosse scene continues to get scummier. What a shining beacon of morality for LI's future Catholic varsity athletes! Those top 2 institutions should be so proud as MC laughs all the way to the bank.
Was the Express team a mix of 7th and 8th graders or really the 8th grade team that played at Blatant?
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
Oh boy...Is this a player saying this or some mo mo dad?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
It's they're, not their Crush dad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
I am not a fan of the sportsmanship of either team, but have to agree! Turtles good, Crush great! Will be interesting to watch them over the next few years. I want to see how they do in individual showcases as well as against traditionally strong MD and PA teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
Oh boy...Is this a player saying this or some mo mo dad?
said "torch" 3 times!! Must be dopey dad!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
if other teams were as dedicated and practiced as much as Crush; especially in 2019 I am sure they would beat them.
I look forward to Lax fest where hopefully some teams have some more playing time and give them a good run.
should be fun
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct and the the fifth team is probably one of the top B teams. To address them beating 91 orange, I repeat they have never beat the top 4 teams in regular season play. Not talking about a fall tourney where players have conflicts, some teams have practiced over the winter some haven't, coaches try to new players at new positions etc. Maybe express will be an A team this year, too early to tell but never have been at this age.
Only top four teams are A because.....you said so ??
You are an idiot!
Folks are you serious? Express A is a good team but come spring they are gonna get walked and then you are all gonna say "Well we are still one of the better teams" and that will be a far cry. With that said this is just 5th Grade lacrosse so lets not get all worked up here but the team will be a good B this year with probably a better group next year and competing at a high level. Fall tournaments are meaningless and generally good reality checks and /or a wakeup for the kids. Come spring the coaches get worse (More worked up) and they don't let off the gas for any team. Good Luck to all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
When they torch torch torch that HDD 2019 team coached by Taylor maybe someone will take note. Aren't both teams U13? Maybe Spalina can get them to play prior to a lizards game to put some people in the stands. That's a game worth watching.
This crush team is so overhyped it's ridiculous. Yeah they are good, but you just gave an 11/12 year old a full time lax job preparing for games they never play in. Keep chasing that scholarship dream by team affiliation.
As for comparing the team to the turtles........who cares. 6th grade videos? Your nuts. They always roll to that footage on espnu when showing a college players development and bio.
I'll let me kid be a kid and find the passion on his own after finishing his homework.
Don't bring us into this. As a parent of a Taylor 2019 kid, I can honestly say, that team is legit. I've watched them practice several times. Each time I come away impressed. Just give credit where it's due!! When we play them it will be a good game. People, stop worrying about a team your son does not play on. Worry about your son getting better. That should be your only focus!!!
When they torch torch torch that HDD 2019 team coached by Taylor maybe someone will take note. Aren't both teams U13? Maybe Spalina can get them to play prior to a lizards game to put some people in the stands. That's a game worth watching.
This crush team is so overhyped it's ridiculous. Yeah they are good, but you just gave an 11/12 year old a full time lax job preparing for games they never play in. Keep chasing that scholarship dream by team affiliation.
As for comparing the team to the turtles........who cares. 6th grade videos? Your nuts. They always roll to that footage on espnu when showing a college players development and bio.
I'll let me kid be a kid and find the passion on his own after finishing his homework.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
When they torch torch torch that HDD 2019 team coached by Taylor maybe someone will take note. Aren't both teams U13? Maybe Spalina can get them to play prior to a lizards game to put some people in the stands. That's a game worth watching.
This crush team is so overhyped it's ridiculous. Yeah they are good, but you just gave an 11/12 year old a full time lax job preparing for games they never play in. Keep chasing that scholarship dream by team affiliation.
As for comparing the team to the turtles........who cares. 6th grade videos? Your nuts. They always roll to that footage on espnu when showing a college players development and bio.
I'll let me kid be a kid and find the passion on his own after finishing his homework.
that's so weird, you don't want people to worry about teams their sons are not on yet you watch other teams practice many times......its crazy, I have 3 kids and find it difficult enough to get them all to school activities, sports practice I cant imaging having enough time or interest in watching another team practice.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
When they torch torch torch that HDD 2019 team coached by Taylor maybe someone will take note. Aren't both teams U13? Maybe Spalina can get them to play prior to a lizards game to put some people in the stands. That's a game worth watching.
This crush team is so overhyped it's ridiculous. Yeah they are good, but you just gave an 11/12 year old a full time lax job preparing for games they never play in. Keep chasing that scholarship dream by team affiliation.
As for comparing the team to the turtles........who cares. 6th grade videos? Your nuts. They always roll to that footage on espnu when showing a college players development and bio.
I'll let me kid be a kid and find the passion on his own after finishing his homework.
That's exactly right, worry about your own kid.
You don't think the crush kids do homework and are ALL AP STUDENTS....hahaha. Jealousy is a powerful emotion
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
When they torch torch torch that HDD 2019 team coached by Taylor maybe someone will take note. Aren't both teams U13? Maybe Spalina can get them to play prior to a lizards game to put some people in the stands. That's a game worth watching.
This crush team is so overhyped it's ridiculous. Yeah they are good, but you just gave an 11/12 year old a full time lax job preparing for games they never play in. Keep chasing that scholarship dream by team affiliation.
As for comparing the team to the turtles........who cares. 6th grade videos? Your nuts. They always roll to that footage on espnu when showing a college players development and bio.
I'll let me kid be a kid and find the passion on his own after finishing his homework.
Don't those 2 teams share their stars? They used to. If so, you will never see them play each other.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
When they torch torch torch that HDD 2019 team coached by Taylor maybe someone will take note. Aren't both teams U13? Maybe Spalina can get them to play prior to a lizards game to put some people in the stands. That's a game worth watching.
This crush team is so overhyped it's ridiculous. Yeah they are good, but you just gave an 11/12 year old a full time lax job preparing for games they never play in. Keep chasing that scholarship dream by team affiliation.
As for comparing the team to the turtles........who cares. 6th grade videos? Your nuts. They always roll to that footage on espnu when showing a college players development and bio.
I'll let me kid be a kid and find the passion on his own after finishing his homework.
Don't those 2 teams share their stars? They used to. If so, you will never see them play each other.
That's right - Crush and Taylor won't play each other. If they do, whoever gets the 2 kids will win
Torch the Turtles ? You must be a Crush Dad or at least a 91 Dad. Turtles were very deep. Crush is not as much. Watching both teams play at their respective times I think the Turtles were better. I'm sure most would agree.
HDD are deep at all positions. Very physical and athletic. Even without the two "stars " as you call them , HDD would have no problem. How does Crush do vs 2019 Mule or Express Wolves ?
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Torch the Turtles ? You must be a Crush Dad or at least a 91 Dad. Turtles were very deep. Crush is not as much. Watching both teams play at their respective times I think the Turtles were better. I'm sure most would agree.
Don't agree! Not even close!
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Torch the Turtles ? You must be a Crush Dad or at least a 91 Dad. Turtles were very deep. Crush is not as much. Watching both teams play at their respective times I think the Turtles were better. I'm sure most would agree.
Agree its close. Turtles have better individual players. Crush has some but overall not as skilled but great as a team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
When they torch torch torch that HDD 2019 team coached by Taylor maybe someone will take note. Aren't both teams U13? Maybe Spalina can get them to play prior to a lizards game to put some people in the stands. That's a game worth watching.
This crush team is so overhyped it's ridiculous. Yeah they are good, but you just gave an 11/12 year old a full time lax job preparing for games they never play in. Keep chasing that scholarship dream by team affiliation.
As for comparing the team to the turtles........who cares. 6th grade videos? Your nuts. They always roll to that footage on espnu when showing a college players development and bio.
I'll let me kid be a kid and find the passion on his own after finishing his homework.
That's exactly right, worry about your own kid.
You don't think the crush kids do homework and are ALL AP STUDENTS....hahaha. Jealousy is a powerful emotion
So is the delusion associated with living vicariously through your kids....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HDD are deep at all positions. Very physical and athletic. Even without the two "stars " as you call them , HDD would have no problem. How does Crush do vs 2019 Mule or Express Wolves ?
Would love to see Crush and HDD play, with those two players on Crush. HDD wouldn't just be "without" those two, they'd be playing against them. You're saying they'd have no problem? I can't stand Crush, so I'd like to see that, but I'm not sure if they'd have "no problem"
Crush beat Express 18-0 in the Dicks Championships. 18-0!
its Spallina, two LL's, their you have it
Look at you, talking about Division 1 lacrosse and espn when I'm talking about 6th grade lacrosse. You talk out both sides of your mouth. Why can't people just enjoy what they are doing at 6th grade? You are the idiot who is talking about ESPN and college bios.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Torch the Turtles ? You must be a Crush Dad or at least a 91 Dad. Turtles were very deep. Crush is not as much. Watching both teams play at their respective times I think the Turtles were better. I'm sure most would agree.
Agree its close. Turtles have better individual players. Crush has some but overall not as skilled but great as a team.
Better individual players???? are you nuts? No competition!!
18-0 was vs 2020 Express. The poster was talking about Crush playing up vs 2019 teams. Calm down.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
its Spallina, two LL's, their you have it
Actually its there not their...there!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crush beat Express 18-0 in the Dicks Championships. 18-0!
They had to drive the message home once and for all!
Such a dope that is why their was italicized.
You need help !!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
When they torch torch torch that HDD 2019 team coached by Taylor maybe someone will take note. Aren't both teams U13? Maybe Spalina can get them to play prior to a lizards game to put some people in the stands. That's a game worth watching.
This crush team is so overhyped it's ridiculous. Yeah they are good, but you just gave an 11/12 year old a full time lax job preparing for games they never play in. Keep chasing that scholarship dream by team affiliation.
As for comparing the team to the turtles........who cares. 6th grade videos? Your nuts. They always roll to that footage on espnu when showing a college players development and bio.
I'll let me kid be a kid and find the passion on his own after finishing his homework.
That's exactly right, worry about your own kid.
You don't think the crush kids do homework and are ALL AP STUDENTS....hahaha. Jealousy is a powerful emotion
So is the delusion associated with living vicariously through your kids....
JEALOUSY.....Ahh.the old living through you kids ...lol.... proves the point
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crush beat Express 18-0 in the Dicks Championships. 18-0!
They had to drive the message home once and for all!
Prediction: There will only be two or three kids from the original Crush team left by the time they are in 8th grade. Look at 91 Extreme... One original kid left, some no longer playing lax, some not playing any travel at all. You'll see, more is not always more. Enjoy the ride while it lasts... You can't drive little kids that hard that long.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crush beat Express 18-0 in the Dicks Championships. 18-0!
They had to drive the message home once and for all!
Prediction: There will only be two or three kids from the original Crush team left by the time they are in 8th grade. Look at 91 Extreme... One original kid left, some no longer playing lax, some not playing any travel at all. You'll see, more is not always more. Enjoy the ride while it lasts... You can't drive little kids that hard that long.
Or more likely they will soon be called the Express Baracudas. Ha ha, its coming.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crush beat Express 18-0 in the Dicks Championships. 18-0!
They had to drive the message home once and for all!
Prediction: There will only be two or three kids from the original Crush team left by the time they are in 8th grade. Look at 91 Extreme... One original kid left, some no longer playing lax, some not playing any travel at all. You'll see, more is not always more. Enjoy the ride while it lasts... You can't drive little kids that hard that long.
Or more likely they will soon be called the Express Baracudas. Ha ha, its coming.
Said the jealous Express daddy. Truth is, what boy would leave a team giving them a free ticket to D1 college lax. This team will see very little movement similar to the Turtles.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Torch the Turtles ? You must be a Crush Dad or at least a 91 Dad. Turtles were very deep. Crush is not as much. Watching both teams play at their respective times I think the Turtles were better. I'm sure most would agree.
Agree its close. Turtles have better individual players. Crush has some but overall not as skilled but great as a team.
Better individual players???? are you nuts? No competition!!
Agree!! Turtles at same age were much more skilled individually. That plus to focus on academics will lead to more commits to top schools
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No comparison Turtles at 6th grade vs Crush at 6th grade. Check out the videos. Not even close. Crush would torch them head to head...torch. Their torching 2019 teams at a very difficult maturation stage in this game for playing up.
When they torch torch torch that HDD 2019 team coached by Taylor maybe someone will take note. Aren't both teams U13? Maybe Spalina can get them to play prior to a lizards game to put some people in the stands. That's a game worth watching.
This crush team is so overhyped it's ridiculous. Yeah they are good, but you just gave an 11/12 year old a full time lax job preparing for games they never play in. Keep chasing that scholarship dream by team affiliation.
As for comparing the team to the turtles........who cares. 6th grade videos? Your nuts. They always roll to that footage on espnu when showing a college players development and bio.
I'll let me kid be a kid and find the passion on his own after finishing his homework.
Don't those 2 teams share their stars? They used to. If so, you will never see them play each other.
That's right - Crush and Taylor won't play each other. If they do, whoever gets the 2 kids will win
Taylor could probably play without them and win. If you ever saw that team play, its a team with depth. Crush would probably get crushed without them bc they are the team and that's why this game will never happen.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crush beat Express 18-0 in the Dicks Championships. 18-0!
They had to drive the message home once and for all!
Prediction: There will only be two or three kids from the original Crush team left by the time they are in 8th grade. Look at 91 Extreme... One original kid left, some no longer playing lax, some not playing any travel at all. You'll see, more is not always more. Enjoy the ride while it lasts... You can't drive little kids that hard that long.
Or more likely they will soon be called the Express Baracudas. Ha ha, its coming.
Said the jealous Express daddy. Truth is, what boy would leave a team giving them a free ticket to D1 college lax. This team will see very little movement similar to the Turtles.
WOW is pot legal in NY??? What are you smoking? You really think a D1 one ticket is already in the bag in 6th grade? Jealous? Not a chance, my kids committed already. It's called pitty, you freak. Free ticket? Average D1 lax money is about $8,000 bucks a year. Much more money for academics. You might want to start thinking about plan plan B. You have no idea the reality check your in for. By the way, the movement on Extreme wasn't by choice, kids were let go for new kids... Win at any cost. You know, that "91" loyalty. Good luck to your son. Go see a professional, you need help.
Son played against the Turtles and I coached against the Crush. Two very talented but different teams. While neither team would be considered big, the Turtles have a slight advantage on defense. The Crush do have one rather large attackman though. Don't think any of the Turtles attackman had that ability to bull dodge. The Turtles seem to rely on individual skill a little more and the Crush play more team offense and defense. If both teams were the same grade and the referees played it straight, I'd give the edge to the Turtles just based on physicality. It's also hard to say how the face off battle would go. Having said that I think the Crush are better coached and more of their players will probably go further in lacrosse. Time will tell. There is no doubt that both teams are very talented and to say definitively who would win is foolish. But it's fun to speculate.
So when is 2020 crush playing the 2019 HDD team?...Can it ever happen or are there kids that actually play for both teams. if so how pathetic is that. Let them play each other. What did both of these teams work it out amongst themselves to make sure they can't be in the same tournaments. I know it's two different age groups but are you being fair to the other 2020 crush kids or are you telling them they are good but not good enough to play without 2 or three kids because they are your superstars otherwise we are just a good 2020 team...
why would they play. play the kids in your age group and be quiet and get a life.
you are probably the same kind of knucklehead that will complain when your kid is in 8th or 9th grade about how unfair it is for others to hold back their kid, but now its ok for you to play up for your own kids advantage to play with stronger players. you are boring go away.
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So when is 2020 crush playing the 2019 HDD team?...Can it ever happen or are there kids that actually play for both teams. if so how pathetic is that. Let them play each other. What did both of these teams work it out amongst themselves to make sure they can't be in the same tournaments. I know it's two different age groups but are you being fair to the other 2020 crush kids or are you telling them they are good but not good enough to play without 2 or three kids because they are your superstars otherwise we are just a good 2020 team...
Go away [lacrosse].
Why is pathetic? You know you would love for it to be your kid who's playing on 2 of the best teams at their age group!!! And both of those teams are extremely deep in talent! It's just not 2 kids. Taylor and Spallina do a great job with those teams they get the most out of all those kids, and the kids respond, stop your crying!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is pathetic? You know you would love for it to be your kid who's playing on 2 of the best teams at their age group!!! And both of those teams are extremely deep in talent! It's just not 2 kids. Taylor and Spallina do a great job with those teams they get the most out of all those kids, and the kids respond, stop your crying!!!
Take it to another board that actually is associated with these teams.
Yes,
you are right their is only one original player from 4th grade but their are a lot of ex-extreme kids playing on other teams that are the stars of their team.
Not easy playing in SL system, each player has very limited role. Players move on to where they can develop more as a lacrosse player.
Do not believe young players benefit from a youth program that is run like a division one program. that's the way SL runs it and has been running the program like that since fourth grade
Some of his players will benefit the ones that have more of a role but a lot would be better off on a different team
But Parents are nuts they want to be on a winning team at all cost.
you are right their is only one original player from 4th grade but their are a lot of ex-extreme kids playing on other teams that are the stars of their team.
Not easy playing in SL system, each player has very limited role. Players move on to where they can develop more as a lacrosse player.
Do not believe young players benefit from a youth program that is run like a division one program. that's the way SL runs it and has been running the program like that since fourth grade
Some of his players will benefit the ones that have more of a role but a lot would be better off on a different team
But Parents are nuts they want to be on a winning team at all cost.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes,
you are right their is only one original player from 4th grade but their are a lot of ex-extreme kids playing on other teams that are the stars of their team.
Not easy playing in SL system, each player has very limited role. Players move on to where they can develop more as a lacrosse player.
Do not believe young players benefit from a youth program that is run like a division one program. that's the way SL runs it and has been running the program like that since fourth grade
Some of his players will benefit the ones that have more of a role but a lot would be better off on a different team
But Parents are nuts they want to be on a winning team at all cost.
you are right their is only one original player from 4th grade but their are a lot of ex-extreme kids playing on other teams that are the stars of their team.
Not easy playing in SL system, each player has very limited role. Players move on to where they can develop more as a lacrosse player.
Do not believe young players benefit from a youth program that is run like a division one program. that's the way SL runs it and has been running the program like that since fourth grade
Some of his players will benefit the ones that have more of a role but a lot would be better off on a different team
But Parents are nuts they want to be on a winning team at all cost.
It's always the parents. They are so conditioned and focused on winning every game they have lost sight of what this travel lax thing is all about. It's about developing as a complete player. That will never happen to the level it should, if a kid is put in a box and limited to a specific role. Have to say, it does work for the team though.
How much was the tuition for 2017 this year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes,
you are right their is only one original player from 4th grade but their are a lot of ex-extreme kids playing on other teams that are the stars of their team.
Not easy playing in SL system, each player has very limited role. Players move on to where they can develop more as a lacrosse player.
Do not believe young players benefit from a youth program that is run like a division one program. that's the way SL runs it and has been running the program like that since fourth grade
Some of his players will benefit the ones that have more of a role but a lot would be better off on a different team
But Parents are nuts they want to be on a winning team at all cost.
you are right their is only one original player from 4th grade but their are a lot of ex-extreme kids playing on other teams that are the stars of their team.
Not easy playing in SL system, each player has very limited role. Players move on to where they can develop more as a lacrosse player.
Do not believe young players benefit from a youth program that is run like a division one program. that's the way SL runs it and has been running the program like that since fourth grade
Some of his players will benefit the ones that have more of a role but a lot would be better off on a different team
But Parents are nuts they want to be on a winning team at all cost.
It's always the parents. They are so conditioned and focused on winning every game they have lost sight of what this travel lax thing is all about. It's about developing as a complete player. That will never happen to the level it should, if a kid is put in a box and limited to a specific role. Have to say, it does work for the team though.
My boy played on an Express A team this year and even though he struggled for minutes at times, the lax development was phenomenal! the playing time is always an issue on A teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes,
you are right their is only one original player from 4th grade but their are a lot of ex-extreme kids playing on other teams that are the stars of their team.
Not easy playing in SL system, each player has very limited role. Players move on to where they can develop more as a lacrosse player.
Do not believe young players benefit from a youth program that is run like a division one program. that's the way SL runs it and has been running the program like that since fourth grade
Some of his players will benefit the ones that have more of a role but a lot would be better off on a different team
But Parents are nuts they want to be on a winning team at all cost.
you are right their is only one original player from 4th grade but their are a lot of ex-extreme kids playing on other teams that are the stars of their team.
Not easy playing in SL system, each player has very limited role. Players move on to where they can develop more as a lacrosse player.
Do not believe young players benefit from a youth program that is run like a division one program. that's the way SL runs it and has been running the program like that since fourth grade
Some of his players will benefit the ones that have more of a role but a lot would be better off on a different team
But Parents are nuts they want to be on a winning team at all cost.
It's always the parents. They are so conditioned and focused on winning every game they have lost sight of what this travel lax thing is all about. It's about developing as a complete player. That will never happen to the level it should, if a kid is put in a box and limited to a specific role. Have to say, it does work for the team though.
My boy played on an Express A team this year and even though he struggled for minutes at times, the lax development was phenomenal! the playing time is always an issue on A teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How much was the tuition for 2017 this year?
All said and done you are going to pay close to 3K for an express travel team. Any different please let me know. Same if not more for the 91 teams
We are looking at moving to a new team this year for 2017. Not happy with current team and feeding system. Does anyone know the other clubs pricing. Just trying to take that into account when we look at what they have to offer. Any info would be great. I hear, LE-$2100 91-1600, Jester-1600, TB-1200, fl$-2500...these are apprx numbers we hear..
fl$ is around 2000 and this is from website - *Tournaments are NOT included in registration fee
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fl$ is around 2000 and this is from website - *Tournaments are NOT included in registration fee
So you pay 2000 for the uniform and practices ??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are looking at moving to a new team this year for 2017. Not happy with current team and feeding system. Does anyone know the other clubs pricing. Just trying to take that into account when we look at what they have to offer. Any info would be great. I hear, LE-$2100 91-1600, Jester-1600, TB-1200, fl$-2500...these are apprx numbers we hear..
3000 if you play all year round is accurate. Outlaws do all inclusive price for all year round. Think more programs moving that direction. Would rather know what all in cost is early.
"So you pay 2000 for the uniform and practices ??" -
Also $125 for tryouts. Wow this is getting $$$$$$
*Tournaments are NOT included in registration fee
What Your Registration Fee Gets You
1 Week at fl$ Summer Lacrosse Camp (2024, 2023, 2022, 2021, 2020 & 2019′s)
2 Day Team Training Camp beginning of June
2 Professional and Highly Qualified (Non Parent) Coaches
8-12 Summer Practices
4-6 Fall Practices
4-6 Winter Practices
Custom fl$ uniform & gear
Face-off Training
Goalie Training
Organizational meeting
fl$ Recruiting Night (2020 & Up)
Customized player profile on the fl$ website
Access to the fl$ staff 24/7
Community service opportunities
Academic advising
Access to fl$ Mentoring Program
fl$ Weekly News updates
fl$ Alumni network
fl$ Personal training network
College, Prep & Private School recruiting assistance
Discounts on Additional Training Events (See Below)
Also $125 for tryouts. Wow this is getting $$$$$$
*Tournaments are NOT included in registration fee
What Your Registration Fee Gets You
1 Week at fl$ Summer Lacrosse Camp (2024, 2023, 2022, 2021, 2020 & 2019′s)
2 Day Team Training Camp beginning of June
2 Professional and Highly Qualified (Non Parent) Coaches
8-12 Summer Practices
4-6 Fall Practices
4-6 Winter Practices
Custom fl$ uniform & gear
Face-off Training
Goalie Training
Organizational meeting
fl$ Recruiting Night (2020 & Up)
Customized player profile on the fl$ website
Access to the fl$ staff 24/7
Community service opportunities
Academic advising
Access to fl$ Mentoring Program
fl$ Weekly News updates
fl$ Alumni network
fl$ Personal training network
College, Prep & Private School recruiting assistance
Discounts on Additional Training Events (See Below)
The problem is- even though you may belong to the same club- each team is different. Under the same club, one team may be just a Spring - Summer team and in the same age group another team from the same club may be a year round team. Practices also vary in number of practices a week and length of practices. The areas the teams practice may be different as well, as it depends a lot on the coaches and where a lot of the team is from. It's smart to be a good consumer and definitely do your research, but bottom line- once you know which team your child is on, then research the coach and find out where, how much they practice and expectations of commitment. I've heard of way too many dedicated kids ending up with teammates that didn't have lax as a priority over another sport or team. That is fine if your kid is similar, and wants to continue playing two clubs or sports at once, but not great for the kids looking to go hard each week, for more than just an hour for a few weeks.
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The problem is- even though you may belong to the same club- each team is different. Under the same club, one team may be just a Spring - Summer team and in the same age group another team from the same club may be a year round team. Practices also vary in number of practices a week and length of practices. The areas the teams practice may be different as well, as it depends a lot on the coaches and where a lot of the team is from. It's smart to be a good consumer and definitely do your research, but bottom line- once you know which team your child is on, then research the coach and find out where, how much they practice and expectations of commitment. I've heard of way too many dedicated kids ending up with teammates that didn't have lax as a priority over another sport or team. That is fine if your kid is similar, and wants to continue playing two clubs or sports at once, but not great for the kids looking to go hard each week, for more than just an hour for a few weeks.
Great point. The 2018 B team was loaded with talent but they never practiced until May and basically under achieved every week. Just depends on who coaches each team. If they practiced all winter they would have been a very good team.
So 2000k for uniforms and practices! Correct
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So 2000k for uniforms and practices! Correct
$2400 I think
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So 2000k for uniforms and practices! Correct
$2400 I think
The majority of fl$ players are from affluent areas. Their parents don't care that it's way overpriced for what is provided. I would imagine that the results of their 2020 and younger teams would bother them though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are looking at moving to a new team this year for 2017. Not happy with current team and feeding system. Does anyone know the other clubs pricing. Just trying to take that into account when we look at what they have to offer. Any info would be great. I hear, LE-$2100 91-1600, Jester-1600, TB-1200, fl$-2500...these are apprx numbers we hear..
Outlaws have a good team 2017, ended up paying about 2500 all said and done this year. Maybe slightly more, well worth it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are looking at moving to a new team this year for 2017. Not happy with current team and feeding system. Does anyone know the other clubs pricing. Just trying to take that into account when we look at what they have to offer. Any info would be great. I hear, LE-$2100 91-1600, Jester-1600, TB-1200, fl$-2500...these are apprx numbers we hear..
Outlaws have a good team 2017, ended up paying about 2500 all said and done this year. Maybe slightly more, well worth it.
Outlaws A team solid - worth every penny. Best tourneys and support/contact with recruiters.
They just are not at the top level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They just are not at the top level.
Team doesn't have to be. As long as you play the best competition. Colleges are not recruiting teams, recruiting individual players. As long as your son can perform well on an individual basis against the best, that's all that matters. FYI, had a meeting with top ACC coach who said "the tournament thing is rapidly becoming a thing of the past". Its all about showcases and "the schools own prospect camp". Not my words, his!
Anyone else think showcases are difficult for attack? Seems the ones my kid went to favored middies who tried to run in and shoot, the attack only got a ball if they got a gb when the middies lost it.
Your 100% right, but these coaches want to see those middies feed and be a team player. Trust me they can see through those kids who want to be ball hogs!
Definitely noticed that at an elite camp this Summer. My daughter played attack and virtually never got the ball...unless the coaches actually screamed her name as being wide open on mulitple occasions. But I think that actually makes the middies look bad as well... especially if they miss shots when other kids are wide open.
Express is having tryouts in August. They will give offers and want parents to lock in with a payment before Labor Day. If you are not on their top team in a given grade, you should really consider trying to get on another groups top team that plays in A brackets. The Express 2019 and 2020 B teams really struggled this year. You are spending all that money to be on a team that is solely set up for them to make money. The B teams hardly practice and could not win many games against A teams from other groups.
2019 team had many practices and won many games - sometimes against programs B teams - not sure what you are talking about
Express is falling fast
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2019 team had many practices and won many games - sometimes against programs B teams - not sure what you are talking about
Is that the team that had their coach that also was a director leave mid-season?
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2019 team had many practices and won many games - sometimes against programs B teams - not sure what you are talking about
The 2018 B team did not practice nearly enough.
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Express is falling fast
Thanks for your concern. All is good.
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Express is falling fast
Thanks for your concern. All is good.
91, is taking over the island. Legacy is close behind. Express?? RIP
Which team is going to be harder to make this year (Politically and Skill Wise) 2017 Outlaws Black or 2017 Express Orange
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Express is having tryouts in August. They will give offers and want parents to lock in with a payment before Labor Day. If you are not on their top team in a given grade, you should really consider trying to get on another groups top team that plays in A brackets. The Express 2019 and 2020 B teams really struggled this year. You are spending all that money to be on a team that is solely set up for them to make money. The B teams hardly practice and could not win many games against A teams from other groups.
No kid on Express but read many posts discussing top 2020 teams and Express "B" was consistently in the top 5. Not sure where you're coming from.
Legacy is a C level org at best. The kids on their A teams wouldn't make the 91 or Express C teams. Not even close. Zummo is clueless.
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Legacy is a C level org at best. The kids on their A teams wouldn't make the 91 or Express C teams. Not even close. Zummo is clueless.
Why did legacy 2020 beat express b at least 2x. They will beat Terps next year and titanium is right on their [lacrosse] as well. There are already certain positions being dominated by legacy kids. Good luck, you will need it!
So far from the truth . Look how much Zummo has done in such a short time. Class act.
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Express is having tryouts in August. They will give offers and want parents to lock in with a payment before Labor Day. If you are not on their top team in a given grade, you should really consider trying to get on another groups top team that plays in A brackets. The Express 2019 and 2020 B teams really struggled this year. You are spending all that money to be on a team that is solely set up for them to make money. The B teams hardly practice and could not win many games against A teams from other groups.
No kid on Express but read many posts discussing top 2020 teams and Express "B" was consistently in the top 5. Not sure where you're coming from.
No they are not. Crush, Terps, Legacy A, True Blue A, 91 Titanium are all clearly better. They struggled in A brackets, so they were put in the B bracket in Massachusetts.
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Legacy is a C level org at best. The kids on their A teams wouldn't make the 91 or Express C teams. Not even close. Zummo is clueless.
Our 2020 Legacy A team beat Express B at JDRF by double digits. I watched True Blue A beat them by a bunch an hour later. You are clueless.
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Legacy is a C level org at best. The kids on their A teams wouldn't make the 91 or Express C teams. Not even close. Zummo is clueless.
Our 2020 Legacy A team beat Express B at JDRF by double digits. I watched True Blue A beat them by a bunch an hour later. You are clueless.
Why was Legacy's A team playing B teams?
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2019 team had many practices and won many games - sometimes against programs B teams - not sure what you are talking about
The 2018 B team did not practice nearly enough.
B had very good players, but wasted year of lacrosse.
Express, barracudas 2016, once their best team fell apart. Express is not what it once was. Barely have any decent teams. There best is probably 2020 Terps but they can never win against crush so they won't be winning major tournaments. 91 is now the premier club building the best teams at the younger ages. Legacy, igloo good too
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Legacy is a C level org at best. The kids on their A teams wouldn't make the 91 or Express C teams. Not even close. Zummo is clueless.
Our 2020 Legacy A team beat Express B at JDRF by double digits. I watched True Blue A beat them by a bunch an hour later. You are clueless.
Why was Legacy's A team playing B teams?
I could ask the same about 2020 Terps. They lost in any real A Tournament they played in, losing to other A teams (besides Crush) from off the Island (Crabfest for example), They only won in b bracket tournaments. Express terps still better than 91 titanium and Legacy Taz, but that gap will close. They may be in 2nd place ON LI for now, but that is really not good enough for a club charging the amt of money they do, and bragging about winning all the time. Many better teams than them off LI. That early tryout date will backfire because people are not going to want to lay out a big down payment for a mediocre club without exploring other options first!
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Legacy is a C level org at best. The kids on their A teams wouldn't make the 91 or Express C teams. Not even close. Zummo is clueless.
Our 2020 Legacy A team beat Express B at JDRF by double digits. I watched True Blue A beat them by a bunch an hour later. You are clueless.
Why was Legacy's A team playing B teams?
Because they put the Express B team in A brackets
2016 Barracudas was abandoned by MC. He handed the boys over to good coaches, never any chemistry. Once he had his first round of commits , the rest were forgotten. At Adrenaline did not take a moment to tallk to hids former team, watched for a few min then walked on. Shame on us for writing the checks !!
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Express, barracudas 2016, once their best team fell apart. Express is not what it once was. Barely have any decent teams. There best is probably 2020 Terps but they can never win against crush so they won't be winning major tournaments. 91 is now the premier club building the best teams at the younger ages. Legacy, igloo good too
As the recruiting starts younger most of these clubs will start to peak in 8th grade summer. Trend towards individual showcases and prospect days will weaken demand in hs years
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy is a C level org at best. The kids on their A teams wouldn't make the 91 or Express C teams. Not even close. Zummo is clueless.
Our 2020 Legacy A team beat Express B at JDRF by double digits. I watched True Blue A beat them by a bunch an hour later. You are clueless.
Why was Legacy's A team playing B teams?
Because they put the Express B team in A brackets
Express b not in any a brackets. In fact express Terps could hardly handle a bracket, which is why they placed in b in some tournaments so they could win. Just terrible!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express is having tryouts in August. They will give offers and want parents to lock in with a payment before Labor Day. If you are not on their top team in a given grade, you should really consider trying to get on another groups top team that plays in A brackets. The Express 2019 and 2020 B teams really struggled this year. You are spending all that money to be on a team that is solely set up for them to make money. The B teams hardly practice and could not win many games against A teams from other groups.
No kid on Express but read many posts discussing top 2020 teams and Express "B" was consistently in the top 5. Not sure where you're coming from.
How do you figure?
I am aware of at least 15 kids at various age groups leaving 91 A and express A teams to join Legacy.
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Express, barracudas 2016, once their best team fell apart. Express is not what it once was. Barely have any decent teams. There best is probably 2020 Terps but they can never win against crush so they won't be winning major tournaments. 91 is now the premier club building the best teams at the younger ages. Legacy, igloo good too
I guess you haven't seen or hear of the 2018 terps? Wins lots of tee shirts and more importantly sending boys to the right showcases...
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy is a C level org at best. The kids on their A teams wouldn't make the 91 or Express C teams. Not even close. Zummo is clueless.
Why did legacy 2020 beat express b at least 2x. They will beat Terps next year and titanium is right on their [lacrosse] as well. There are already certain positions being dominated by legacy kids. Good luck, you will need it!
I think Legacy is a fine team, but to say they will beat Terps is ridiculous. They're not even close, played in LaxFest and didn't even make it to the finals. Whenever Terps play Legacy it's a blowout. Titanium lost to Manhasset in Stony Brook, who lost to West Islip, so why don't you put those two teams in the conversation....
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express, barracudas 2016, once their best team fell apart. Express is not what it once was. Barely have any decent teams. There best is probably 2020 Terps but they can never win against crush so they won't be winning major tournaments. 91 is now the premier club building the best teams at the younger ages. Legacy, igloo good too
I guess you haven't seen or hear of the 2018 terps? Wins lots of tee shirts and more importantly sending boys to the right showcases...
33 kids on team. How much action are the bottom 12 getting at the "right" showcases? Your kid better be on man up or man down. Hope you don't grow out of the Tee shirts!!
Express "A" teams joining Legacy ? Not the 2022 group... no way... sounds like a Legacy parent trying to cause trouble
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy is a C level org at best. The kids on their A teams wouldn't make the 91 or Express C teams. Not even close. Zummo is clueless.
Our 2020 Legacy A team beat Express B at JDRF by double digits. I watched True Blue A beat them by a bunch an hour later. You are clueless.
Why was Legacy's A team playing B teams?
I could ask the same about 2020 Terps. They lost in any real A Tournament they played in, losing to other A teams (besides Crush) from off the Island (Crabfest for example), They only won in b bracket tournaments. Express terps still better than 91 titanium and Legacy Taz, but that gap will close. They may be in 2nd place ON LI for now, but that is really not good enough for a club charging the amt of money they do, and bragging about winning all the time. Many better teams than them off LI. That early tryout date will backfire because people are not going to want to lay out a big down payment for a mediocre club without exploring other options first!
Please don't compare Terps to Legacy, compare Legacy to B teams or weak A teams, Terps are second only to Crush, did they lose a bad game at Crabfeast, yes, but they consistently beat the best, at [lacrosse]'s they killed Rising Sons and Looney's, they've lost to Crabs (who have older kids so not true 2020), but they are clearly the second best team on LI.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy is a C level org at best. The kids on their A teams wouldn't make the 91 or Express C teams. Not even close. Zummo is clueless.
Our 2020 Legacy A team beat Express B at JDRF by double digits. I watched True Blue A beat them by a bunch an hour later. You are clueless.
Why was Legacy's A team playing B teams?
Because they put the Express B team in A brackets
Express b not in any a brackets. In fact express Terps could hardly handle a bracket, which is why they placed in b in some tournaments so they could win. Just terrible!
You're an idiot, Terps played in one U13B bracket and destroyed everyone, they are a strong A team and lose only to the Crush and last game against Crush in the finals of Legacy/Laxachusetts tourney was a solid game and probably the closest game Crush had against another 2020 team in a year +
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy is a C level org at best. The kids on their A teams wouldn't make the 91 or Express C teams. Not even close. Zummo is clueless.
Our 2020 Legacy A team beat Express B at JDRF by double digits. I watched True Blue A beat them by a bunch an hour later. You are clueless.
Why was Legacy's A team playing B teams?
Because they put the Express B team in A brackets
Express b not in any a brackets. In fact express Terps could hardly handle a bracket, which is why they placed in b in some tournaments so they could win. Just terrible!
You're an idiot, Terps played in one U13B bracket and destroyed everyone, they are a strong A team and lose only to the Crush and last game against Crush in the finals of Legacy/Laxachusetts tourney was a solid game and probably the closest game Crush had against another 2020 team in a year +
I think they didn't even make it to championship at crabfest!
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[quote=Anonymous]Legacy is a C level org at best. The kids on their A teams wouldn't make the 91 or Express C teams. Not even close. Zummo is clueless.
Our 2020 Legacy A team beat Express B at JDRF by double digits. I watched True Blue A beat them by a bunch an hour later. You are clueless.
Why was Legacy's A team playing B teams?
Because they put the Express B team in A brackets
Express b not in any a brackets. In fact express Terps could hardly handle a bracket, which is why they placed in b in some tournaments so they could win. Just terrible!
You're an idiot, Terps played in one U13B bracket and destroyed everyone, they are a strong A team and lose only to the Crush and last game against Crush in the finals of Legacy/Laxachusetts tourney was a solid game and probably the closest game Crush had against another 2020 team in a year +
Yet when confronted about playing in that one B tournament and "crushing" everyone, the parents and coaches insisted 2020 Terps were a B team. Funny how they want it both ways. Trophy chasing at it's best-must have felt good. If you are second to Crush and a strong A team, you owe an apology and the Championship trophy to the teams you "crushed" in that tournament. For some reason, I don't think we will see any apologies issued or the "trophy" returned. Again, Terps calling people names for having opinions when they are consistently unsportsmanlike and disrespectful on the field and on the boards. Feeling even more sorry for the Terps kids.
you are clueless and not worth responding too. Guess your kid wasn't one of the 33...
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express, barracudas 2016, once their best team fell apart. Express is not what it once was. Barely have any decent teams. There best is probably 2020 Terps but they can never win against crush so they won't be winning major tournaments. 91 is now the premier club building the best teams at the younger ages. Legacy, igloo good too
I guess you haven't seen or hear of the 2018 terps? Wins lots of tee shirts and more importantly sending boys to the right showcases...
33 kids on team. How much action are the bottom 12 getting at the "right" showcases? Your kid better be on man up or man down. Hope you don't grow out of the Tee shirts!!
Ha , The only one that should be apologizing is Legacy to the parents they ripped off pretending to be a legitimate organization. Now go away this is an EXPRESS thread.
Terps lost to Sweetlax at Crabfest
Sorry if this is off topic, but for Express Tryouts it states that I need a US Lacrosse Number, but when I go and try to make one it says to become a member I have to pay (so and so). What do I do because I don't want to pay for a membership, but on express tryouts form it's asking for one?
If you have a high performing kid, the Express is the way to go. Look at the college placements on their 2017 team for the strong players. Chanenchuck focuses on those top kids and trains them to be top level lacrosse players.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express, barracudas 2016, once their best team fell apart. Express is not what it once was. Barely have any decent teams. There best is probably 2020 Terps but they can never win against crush so they won't be winning major tournaments. 91 is now the premier club building the best teams at the younger ages. Legacy, igloo good too
I guess you haven't seen or hear of the 2018 terps? Wins lots of tee shirts and more importantly sending boys to the right showcases...
33 kids on team. How much action are the bottom 12 getting at the "right" showcases? Your kid better be on man up or man down. Hope you don't grow out of the Tee shirts!!
Seasons over, zero kids on terps 2018 right now, tryouts end of the month
No 34
I guess you haven't seen or hear of the 2018 terps? Wins lots of tee shirts and more importantly sending boys to the right showcases...
33 kids on team. How much action are the bottom 12 getting at the "right" showcases? Your kid better be on man up or man down. Hope you don't grow out of the Tee shirts!! Are there really 33 kids on 2018 Terps ? Wow
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express, barracudas 2016, once their best team fell apart. Express is not what it once was. Barely have any decent teams. There best is probably 2020 Terps but they can never win against crush so they won't be winning major tournaments. 91 is now the premier club building the best teams at the younger ages. Legacy, igloo good too
I guess you haven't seen or hear of the 2018 terps? Wins lots of tee shirts and more importantly sending boys to the right showcases...
33 kids on team. How much action are the bottom 12 getting at the "right" showcases? Your kid better be on man up or man down. Hope you don't grow out of the Tee shirts!!
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If you have a high performing kid, the Express is the way to go. Look at the college placements on their 2017 team for the strong players. Chanenchuck focuses on those top kids and trains them to be top level lacrosse players.
In the past, I would agree. Better options out there now. Why do you think express moved up their tryout date. I'm out!!
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No 34
I guess you haven't seen or hear of the 2018 terps? Wins lots of tee shirts and more importantly sending boys to the right showcases...
33 kids on team. How much action are the bottom 12 getting at the "right" showcases? Your kid better be on man up or man down. Hope you don't grow out of the Tee shirts!! Are there really 33 kids on 2018 Terps ? Wow
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express, barracudas 2016, once their best team fell apart. Express is not what it once was. Barely have any decent teams. There best is probably 2020 Terps but they can never win against crush so they won't be winning major tournaments. 91 is now the premier club building the best teams at the younger ages. Legacy, igloo good too
I guess you haven't seen or hear of the 2018 terps? Wins lots of tee shirts and more importantly sending boys to the right showcases...
33 kids on team. How much action are the bottom 12 getting at the "right" showcases? Your kid better be on man up or man down. Hope you don't grow out of the Tee shirts!!
YES
I can see a lot of those 2018 kids going to 91 and outlaws, not much else out there that will get into the top recruiting events. It's a big year for the 2018s and you don't want to be numbers 18-34 on the Terps team!
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I am aware of at least 15 kids at various age groups leaving 91 A and express A teams to join Legacy.
So now Legacy is a premier organization? Doesn't that require solid teams at every level? If so you should know that their 2020 B team got a solid beat down from a mediocre town team at Lax Fest. Feels like either a Legacy director or parent is applying different rules when it comes to their organization. The bottom line is that the landscape is subject to change year to year. Kids move around singularly or as a group. Today's flavor of the month travel team is next year's whipping boy. And, above all, for every travel program, no matter how successful, there are people willing to come on here and bash the organization. No program is immune. You can say Express had stronger teams than others this year, but their long term results speak for themselves making it hard to argue, based on one year, that the organization is "over." That is especially true when the organization you are touting suits up teams that are no better than town teams.
Well, Legacy might not be premier yet, but they are moving in the right direction while express is becoming a has-been. Your best shot is to attack the 2020 b team. I will agree, not a strong team this year, but next year with the merger , they should be solid. As another poster confirmed, to put 33 kids on a recruiting year team is simply a money grab, as well as a terrible injustice to the kids. I would want no part of that. Express is done. Even the director MC is no where to be seen. Not the team I want my son on going into the important years!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express, barracudas 2016, once their best team fell apart. Express is not what it once was. Barely have any decent teams. There best is probably 2020 Terps but they can never win against crush so they won't be winning major tournaments. 91 is now the premier club building the best teams at the younger ages. Legacy, igloo good too
I guess you haven't seen or hear of the 2018 terps? Wins lots of tee shirts and more importantly sending boys to the right showcases...
33 kids on team. How much action are the bottom 12 getting at the "right" showcases? Your kid better be on man up or man down. Hope you don't grow out of the Tee shirts!!
Seasons over, zero kids on terps 2018 right now, tryouts end of the month
Lol. Oh yea. I'm sure they will take 18 this year.
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Sorry if this is off topic, but for Express Tryouts it states that I need a US Lacrosse Number, but when I go and try to make one it says to become a member I have to pay (so and so). What do I do because I don't want to pay for a membership, but on express tryouts form it's asking for one?
Use mine!
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I heard they have a kid on that team that's not worthy of a B level team 2 years younger but the 2018 Terps are saddled with him because the dad works in the Town of Oyster Bay and gets Channy field permits.
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Express, barracudas 2016, once their best team fell apart. Express is not what it once was. Barely have any decent teams. There best is probably 2020 Terps but they can never win against crush so they won't be winning major tournaments. 91 is now the premier club building the best teams at the younger ages. Legacy, igloo good too
I guess you haven't seen or hear of the 2018 terps? Wins lots of tee shirts and more importantly sending boys to the right showcases...
33 kids on team. How much action are the bottom 12 getting at the "right" showcases? Your kid better be on man up or man down. Hope you don't grow out of the Tee shirts!!
Seasons over, zero kids on terps 2018 right now, tryouts end of the month
Lol. Oh yea. I'm sure they will take 18 this year.
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I heard they have a kid on that team that's not worthy of a B level team 2 years younger but the 2018 Terps are saddled with him because the dad works in the Town of Oyster Bay and gets Channy field permits.
no need to call out a kid, he would be a very good player on any 2018 B team and probably contribute on a few "A" teams, no need to ridicule a kid because of the sins of the father. He has improved greatly over the years and he knows his place and does not complain about playing time, he is a great kid and you are an a$$ for calling him out like that - these kids all read this site.
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I can see a lot of those 2018 kids going to 91 and outlaws, not much else out there that will get into the top recruiting events. It's a big year for the 2018s and you don't want to be numbers 18-34 on the Terps team!
not 91 extreme, they are a better team then the 2018 terps and even if maybe a handful could make 91 but my guess is the better kids that might be able to make the extreme are not the ones looking to move. outlaws and FLGreen are more likely destinations for kids that might be looking to leave terps
The only reason a kid will leave the 2018 Terps is if he does not make the team. But every kid realizes there are tryouts and they have to earn their spot and they continue to work very hard for it. Kids and parents love the team. It is strange how many parents from other programs come and spend time on the LI Express forum. I wonder what that reveals...maybe it is where they really want to be. If so there kid should try out. If there kid is a good kid and great player he will always have a chance. Probably not many express parents hanging out on other teams forums, mainly because they are very happy where they are and focused on all the opportunities Express makes possible for our kids.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard they have a kid on that team that's not worthy of a B level team 2 years younger but the 2018 Terps are saddled with him because the dad works in the Town of Oyster Bay and gets Channy field permits.
no need to call out a kid, he would be a very good player on any 2018 B team and probably contribute on a few "A" teams, no need to ridicule a kid because of the sins of the father. He has improved greatly over the years and he knows his place and does not complain about playing time, he is a great kid and you are an a$$ for calling him out like that - these kids all read this site.
Not saying anything that is not true so why be so defensive. Parents wants to bring out the truth when it helps their position and bury the truth when it hurts their agenda. Lacrosse is the world of entitled liberals who can justify all their actions.
I wonder how you would feel if that was your son being spoken about that way. Or better yet I wonder how your son would feel. Terrible role model.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard they have a kid on that team that's not worthy of a B level team 2 years younger but the 2018 Terps are saddled with him because the dad works in the Town of Oyster Bay and gets Channy field permits.
no need to call out a kid, he would be a very good player on any 2018 B team and probably contribute on a few "A" teams, no need to ridicule a kid because of the sins of the father. He has improved greatly over the years and he knows his place and does not complain about playing time, he is a great kid and you are an a$$ for calling him out like that - these kids all read this site.
Not saying anything that is not true so why be so defensive. Parents wants to bring out the truth when it helps their position and bury the truth when it hurts their agenda. Lacrosse is the world of entitled liberals who can justify all their actions.
So who decided you are in charge of calling out player ability on here. If so proud and righteous to spread the truth , why don't you put your name on it?
Coward!!!!
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The only reason a kid will leave the 2018 Terps is if he does not make the team. But every kid realizes there are tryouts and they have to earn their spot and they continue to work very hard for it. Kids and parents love the team. It is strange how many parents from other programs come and spend time on the LI Express forum. I wonder what that reveals...maybe it is where they really want to be. If so there kid should try out. If there kid is a good kid and great player he will always have a chance. Probably not many express parents hanging out on other teams forums, mainly because they are very happy where they are and focused on all the opportunities Express makes possible for our kids.
Haha that's funny!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard they have a kid on that team that's not worthy of a B level team 2 years younger but the 2018 Terps are saddled with him because the dad works in the Town of Oyster Bay and gets Channy field permits.
no need to call out a kid, he would be a very good player on any 2018 B team and probably contribute on a few "A" teams, no need to ridicule a kid because of the sins of the father. He has improved greatly over the years and he knows his place and does not complain about playing time, he is a great kid and you are an a$$ for calling him out like that - these kids all read this site.
Not saying anything that is not true so why be so defensive. Parents wants to bring out the truth when it helps their position and bury the truth when it hurts their agenda. Lacrosse is the world of entitled liberals who can justify all their actions.
Too funny, TOB is being discussed and it is liberals causing all of the wrongs in the world. I think it is angry people of all types (like you) that are making things the way they are. Mean people.....unfortunate.
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the dad works in the Town of Oyster Bay and gets Channy field permits.
Lacrosse is the world of entitled liberals who can justify all their actions.
Lacrosse is the world of entitled liberals who can justify all their actions.
Say what you want about my kid but call me a liberal and I will find you and ..........
That is an absolute lie.
there was some much unhappiness on 2018 terps.
Everyone knows it- news travels throughout lacrosse community
Listen when you have 33 players on a team parents are going be unhappy- even he is star player - eventually you will need to get all those players playing time.
What happen to your goalie quit in the middle of a game?
there was some much unhappiness on 2018 terps.
Everyone knows it- news travels throughout lacrosse community
Listen when you have 33 players on a team parents are going be unhappy- even he is star player - eventually you will need to get all those players playing time.
What happen to your goalie quit in the middle of a game?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard they have a kid on that team that's not worthy of a B level team 2 years younger but the 2018 Terps are saddled with him because the dad works in the Town of Oyster Bay and gets Channy field permits.
no need to call out a kid, he would be a very good player on any 2018 B team and probably contribute on a few "A" teams, no need to ridicule a kid because of the sins of the father. He has improved greatly over the years and he knows his place and does not complain about playing time, he is a great kid and you are an a$$ for calling him out like that - these kids all read this site.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard they have a kid on that team that's not worthy of a B level team 2 years younger but the 2018 Terps are saddled with him because the dad works in the Town of Oyster Bay and gets Channy field permits.
no need to call out a kid, he would be a very good player on any 2018 B team and probably contribute on a few "A" teams, no need to ridicule a kid because of the sins of the father. He has improved greatly over the years and he knows his place and does not complain about playing time, he is a great kid and you are an a$$ for calling him out like that - these kids all read this site.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard they have a kid on that team that's not worthy of a B level team 2 years younger but the 2018 Terps are saddled with him because the dad works in the Town of Oyster Bay and gets Channy field permits.
no need to call out a kid, he would be a very good player on any 2018 B team and probably contribute on a few "A" teams, no need to ridicule a kid because of the sins of the father. He has improved greatly over the years and he knows his place and does not complain about playing time, he is a great kid and you are an a$$ for calling him out like that - these kids all read this site.
Why allow these types of comments about an 8th grader on a moderated forum?
Terps parent here. On this team for last few years. There have never been 30 kids on this team. Whoever is saying that just doesn't know what they are talking about. The team is a great group of boys and families. There is always some turnover, but the core group have been together for years.
Goalie quit because coach yelled at him and the father lost it and left. Simple as that.
For the mean spirited person calling out individual boy(s) you should know what comes around goes around. How can you sleep at night? You really feel the need to talk about a 14 year old boy?
Please find another topic, no one listens to you and no one respects you. your action on this board shows your lack of common decency and you should be ashamed. go away.
Goalie quit because coach yelled at him and the father lost it and left. Simple as that.
For the mean spirited person calling out individual boy(s) you should know what comes around goes around. How can you sleep at night? You really feel the need to talk about a 14 year old boy?
Please find another topic, no one listens to you and no one respects you. your action on this board shows your lack of common decency and you should be ashamed. go away.
You are right there were not 33 players it was 34 we counted at last tournament.
Stop lying- there was 33-34 kids
Stop lying- there was 33-34 kids
How far along into the season did the goalie quit? If player isn't coachable that's not good. You will get yelled at and need to suck it up. These kids are 14. There is a saying I saw "uncoachable kids become unemployable adults, let your kids get used to someone being hard on them." Why would someone flush such a great opportunity down the drain by quitting a great team like that is something they only know themselves.
The 2018 Terps are a good team beat HHH Dukes and battled 91 Extreme. So would say they are one of the top teams at this age group. I am sure MC will put together a great team for next year.
The 2018 Terps are a good team beat HHH Dukes and battled 91 Extreme. So would say they are one of the top teams at this age group. I am sure MC will put together a great team for next year.
If you are on team you know there are not 33 boys, schmuck talking is some loser. We, terps, going to lake placid tomorrow, hope the rest of you have a nice summer.
Maybe the jerk will find something else to do besides counting terps players on the sidelines...Maybe he can count his...
Maybe the jerk will find something else to do besides counting terps players on the sidelines...Maybe he can count his...
More than battled 91. lost in adrenaline championship in overtime after leading all game. Extreme is a good team, but no better than terps...
Beat dukes and laxachusets and all the true a teams this year. Had a bad loss against NH tomahalks (which I still don't understand) but other than that, a really strong team that can play with anyone...
Beat dukes and laxachusets and all the true a teams this year. Had a bad loss against NH tomahalks (which I still don't understand) but other than that, a really strong team that can play with anyone...
Why don't you express lovers ask Channy about his committed team that he charged $600 for and put them in one tournament , Hofstra blue and Gold, in the B div. Now he is refusing to give anyone their money back despite being threatened by parents with lawsuits.
What a great guy. Stick with him people.
What a great guy. Stick with him people.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
More than battled 91. lost in adrenaline championship in overtime after leading all game. Extreme is a good team, but no better than terps...
Beat dukes and laxachusets and all the true a teams this year. Had a bad loss against NH tomahalks (which I still don't understand) but other than that, a really strong team that can play with anyone...
Beat dukes and laxachusets and all the true a teams this year. Had a bad loss against NH tomahalks (which I still don't understand) but other than that, a really strong team that can play with anyone...
Extreme will beat Terps 9 out of 10 times they play.
Yes of course 91 claimed to be the turtles for years, but not to be...Just a very good team, nothing to be ashamed about losing to terps and fca...who else did you lose to this year???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why don't you express lovers ask Channy about his committed team that he charged $600 for and put them in one tournament , Hofstra blue and Gold, in the B div. Now he is refusing to give anyone their money back despite being threatened by parents with lawsuits.
What a great guy. Stick with him people.
What a great guy. Stick with him people.
If you have a problem, speak to the man, dont come here and bash parents
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes of course 91 claimed to be the turtles for years, but not to be...Just a very good team, nothing to be ashamed about losing to terps and fca...who else did you lose to this year???
Best talent in country. End of story. Don't be a hater. May lose a game occasionally but doesn't change reality. Terps not in same league.
Are the tryouts for LIE North based out of Westchester the same day as the other tryouts?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
More than battled 91. lost in adrenaline championship in overtime after leading all game. Extreme is a good team, but no better than terps...
Beat dukes and laxachusets and all the true a teams this year. Had a bad loss against NH tomahalks (which I still don't understand) but other than that, a really strong team that can play with anyone...
Beat dukes and laxachusets and all the true a teams this year. Had a bad loss against NH tomahalks (which I still don't understand) but other than that, a really strong team that can play with anyone...
yes - probably would,but they are two pretty evenly matched and most of the games would be one goal games. two wonderful team.
Extreme will beat Terps 9 out of 10 times they play.
best talent in country? Really? You my friend need to change up the koolaid. the flavor you are sipping is making you crazy...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
best talent in country? Really? You my friend need to change up the koolaid. the flavor you are sipping is making you crazy...
Who's better?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
More than battled 91. lost in adrenaline championship in overtime after leading all game. Extreme is a good team, but no better than terps...
Beat dukes and laxachusets and all the true a teams this year. Had a bad loss against NH tomahalks (which I still don't understand) but other than that, a really strong team that can play with anyone...
Beat dukes and laxachusets and all the true a teams this year. Had a bad loss against NH tomahalks (which I still don't understand) but other than that, a really strong team that can play with anyone...
yes - probably would,but they are two pretty evenly matched and most of the games would be one goal games. two wonderful team.
Extreme will beat Terps 9 out of 10 times they play.
the top 4 or 5 players on all the A teams are pretty even across the board. The person who thinks 91 is just better than the rest-in terms of talent- has no clue. We will all see in the next two years which teams have more than a few recruits.
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the top 4 or 5 players on all the A teams are pretty even across the board. The person who thinks 91 is just better than the rest-in terms of talent- has no clue. We will all see in the next two years which teams have more than a few recruits.
No way! And yes we will see. 91 has way more skilled players. 2020 crush can't be compared to 2020 terps. They are closer to titanium. Express can't even come close to the younger team like smash and bandits
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the top 4 or 5 players on all the A teams are pretty even across the board. The person who thinks 91 is just better than the rest-in terms of talent- has no clue. We will all see in the next two years which teams have more than a few recruits.
No way! And yes we will see. 91 has way more skilled players. 2020 crush can't be compared to 2020 terps. They are closer to titanium. Express can't even come close to the younger team like smash and bandits
Unfortunately for a lot of those 91 kids academics will be equally as important. The st a, and chaminade reps will more than even things out.
Go back to your red cup 91 whack job
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the top 4 or 5 players on all the A teams are pretty even across the board. The person who thinks 91 is just better than the rest-in terms of talent- has no clue. We will all see in the next two years which teams have more than a few recruits.
No way! And yes we will see. 91 has way more skilled players. 2020 crush can't be compared to 2020 terps. They are closer to titanium. Express can't even come close to the younger team like smash and bandits
Unfortunately for a lot of those 91 kids academics will be equally as important. The st a, and chaminade reps will more than even things out.
Now you claim to know how the kids are doing in the classroom? I guess that's what you do when you have nothing else.Have you looked at the recent college commits? The Ivy and top 20 list is more impressive from the publics! My 91 son will be recruiting age soon, his grade as well as his lax skills are stellar, and will have his choice of schools, as will many other kids on his team. Great parents, great kids!
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Go back to your red cup 91 whack job
Red cup, I get it, the guy must be drinking, so funny and so original! ha, Ha!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the top 4 or 5 players on all the A teams are pretty even across the board. The person who thinks 91 is just better than the rest-in terms of talent- has no clue. We will all see in the next two years which teams have more than a few recruits.
No way! And yes we will see. 91 has way more skilled players. 2020 crush can't be compared to 2020 terps. They are closer to titanium. Express can't even come close to the younger team like smash and bandits
Unfortunately for a lot of those 91 kids academics will be equally as important. The st a, and chaminade reps will more than even things out.
Now you claim to know how the kids are doing in the classroom? I guess that's what you do when you have nothing else.Have you looked at the recent college commits? The Ivy and top 20 list is more impressive from the publics! My 91 son will be recruiting age soon, his grade as well as his lax skills are stellar, and will have his choice of schools, as will many other kids on his team. Great parents, great kids!
Easy there Mom. You have no idea of the competition that is out there on a National Level. Your kid maybe a middle school superstar, but I assure you, you have no idea the of the freak athletes that are getting into this sport. Kids from Fla, Calif. and Texas, might not have the same stick skills yet but are the athletes the top schools want. I recently saw a kid from Cali, has D1 football offer on the table, he played every position on the field for his Lax team except goalie and excelled at the highest levels in each of them. Duke, UNC, Hop, Penn, Harvard, all drooling over him. So take a little advice and eat some humble pie, be hopeful your son gets a few looks when he gets older. To say he'll have his pick of schools is just plain ignorant at best.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the top 4 or 5 players on all the A teams are pretty even across the board. The person who thinks 91 is just better than the rest-in terms of talent- has no clue. We will all see in the next two years which teams have more than a few recruits.
No way! And yes we will see. 91 has way more skilled players. 2020 crush can't be compared to 2020 terps. They are closer to titanium. Express can't even come close to the younger team like smash and bandits
Unfortunately for a lot of those 91 kids academics will be equally as important. The st a, and chaminade reps will more than even things out.
Now you claim to know how the kids are doing in the classroom? I guess that's what you do when you have nothing else.Have you looked at the recent college commits? The Ivy and top 20 list is more impressive from the publics! My 91 son will be recruiting age soon, his grade as well as his lax skills are stellar, and will have his choice of schools, as will many other kids on his team. Great parents, great kids!
Easy there Mom. You have no idea of the competition that is out there on a National Level. Your kid maybe a middle school superstar, but I assure you, you have no idea the of the freak athletes that are getting into this sport. Kids from Fla, Calif. and Texas, might not have the same stick skills yet but are the athletes the top schools want. I recently saw a kid from Cali, has D1 football offer on the table, he played every position on the field for his Lax team except goalie and excelled at the highest levels in each of them. Duke, UNC, Hop, Penn, Harvard, all drooling over him. So take a little advice and eat some humble pie, be hopeful your son gets a few looks when he gets older. To say he'll have his pick of schools is just plain ignorant at best.
There might be athletic freak of natures out there- but they are most likely going to pick a single sport to play, and with lax scholarships far less stellar than basketball, baseball and football, most likely, these kids will pick another sport. If these kids do pick 2 sports, remember they have to be able to stay in school- which the better schools and Ivy's are not academic givens because you play a sport.
While my kid is headed to Catholic school, many of his 91 friends are public school kids and their schools are competitive HS, ranked high in the state and country, so I do not think their parents are too worried. Plenty of 91 kids will do fine and do not need Express or Catholic schools for their academic success or lax success.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the top 4 or 5 players on all the A teams are pretty even across the board. The person who thinks 91 is just better than the rest-in terms of talent- has no clue. We will all see in the next two years which teams have more than a few recruits.
No way! And yes we will see. 91 has way more skilled players. 2020 crush can't be compared to 2020 terps. They are closer to titanium. Express can't even come close to the younger team like smash and bandits
Unfortunately for a lot of those 91 kids academics will be equally as important. The st a, and chaminade reps will more than even things out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the top 4 or 5 players on all the A teams are pretty even across the board. The person who thinks 91 is just better than the rest-in terms of talent- has no clue. We will all see in the next two years which teams have more than a few recruits.
No way! And yes we will see. 91 has way more skilled players. 2020 crush can't be compared to 2020 terps. They are closer to titanium. Express can't even come close to the younger team like smash and bandits
Unfortunately for a lot of those 91 kids academics will be equally as important. The st a, and chaminade reps will more than even things out.
Any private school will have a better academic rep than public school. Not to say publics don't have smart kids but they teach to the bottom.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the top 4 or 5 players on all the A teams are pretty even across the board. The person who thinks 91 is just better than the rest-in terms of talent- has no clue. We will all see in the next two years which teams have more than a few recruits.
No way! And yes we will see. 91 has way more skilled players. 2020 crush can't be compared to 2020 terps. They are closer to titanium. Express can't even come close to the younger team like smash and bandits
Unfortunately for a lot of those 91 kids academics will be equally as important. The st a, and chaminade reps will more than even things out.
Any private school will have a better academic rep than public school. Not to say publics don't have smart kids but they teach to the bottom.
If you are a good lacrosse player and have top grades, you will have your choice of Ivys. It's happening at many public schools. Open your eyes!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the top 4 or 5 players on all the A teams are pretty even across the board. The person who thinks 91 is just better than the rest-in terms of talent- has no clue. We will all see in the next two years which teams have more than a few recruits.
No way! And yes we will see. 91 has way more skilled players. 2020 crush can't be compared to 2020 terps. They are closer to titanium. Express can't even come close to the younger team like smash and bandits
Unfortunately for a lot of those 91 kids academics will be equally as important. The st a, and chaminade reps will more than even things out.
Any private school will have a better academic rep than public school. Not to say publics don't have smart kids but they teach to the bottom.
St A's is an academic wasteland. The kids are either smart enough to learn on their own, or they hire a tutor. How do I know? I'm the tutor. I look at what they are learning and am many times shocked at the lack of curriculum. It really is scary! I hear Chaminade is much better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the top 4 or 5 players on all the A teams are pretty even across the board. The person who thinks 91 is just better than the rest-in terms of talent- has no clue. We will all see in the next two years which teams have more than a few recruits.
No way! And yes we will see. 91 has way more skilled players. 2020 crush can't be compared to 2020 terps. They are closer to titanium. Express can't even come close to the younger team like smash and bandits
Unfortunately for a lot of those 91 kids academics will be equally as important. The st a, and chaminade reps will more than even things out.
Any private school will have a better academic rep than public school. Not to say publics don't have smart kids but they teach to the bottom.
St A's is an academic wasteland. The kids are either smart enough to learn on their own, or they hire a tutor. How do I know? I'm the tutor. I look at what they are learning and am many times shocked at the lack of curriculum. It really is scary! I hear Chaminade is much better.
St a's has a 100% college placement rate for two decades. It's on the website. There is no public school that can make the same claim.
That does not mean the kids are coming out strong academically. I am stating what I have seen from experience. Of course the kids fron St. A are all going to college, the question is, where are they going? Lets compare the Ivy acceptance to top publics like GC, Syosset, 3V, Manhasset, Commack, Jericho, etc. You might be surprised! Keep wasting your money unless you are from a poor-performing district, you are crazy
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That does not mean the kids are coming out strong academically. I am stating what I have seen from experience. Of course the kids fron St. A are all going to college, the question is, where are they going? Lets compare the Ivy acceptance to top publics like GC, Syosset, 3V, Manhasset, Commack, Jericho, etc. You might be surprised! Keep wasting your money unless you are from a poor-performing district, you are crazy
Don't label it a waste of money or call parents crazy for choosing to send their kid to a Catholic school even though they may live in a top school district. The decision is a personal one for each family and is typically based on much more than lacrosse. It is fine that you have made another choice for your son....but you sound ignorant (not to mention anti-Catholic) when you post such comments. Everyone makes their own choices and you don't get to judge how others raise their kids. Maybe now we can get back to Express....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the top 4 or 5 players on all the A teams are pretty even across the board. The person who thinks 91 is just better than the rest-in terms of talent- has no clue. We will all see in the next two years which teams have more than a few recruits.
No way! And yes we will see. 91 has way more skilled players. 2020 crush can't be compared to 2020 terps. They are closer to titanium. Express can't even come close to the younger team like smash and bandits
Unfortunately for a lot of those 91 kids academics will be equally as important. The st a, and chaminade reps will more than even things out.
Now you claim to know how the kids are doing in the classroom? I guess that's what you do when you have nothing else.Have you looked at the recent college commits? The Ivy and top 20 list is more impressive from the publics! My 91 son will be recruiting age soon, his grade as well as his lax skills are stellar, and will have his choice of schools, as will many other kids on his team. Great parents, great kids!
Easy there Mom. You have no idea of the competition that is out there on a National Level. Your kid maybe a middle school superstar, but I assure you, you have no idea the of the freak athletes that are getting into this sport. Kids from Fla, Calif. and Texas, might not have the same stick skills yet but are the athletes the top schools want. I recently saw a kid from Cali, has D1 football offer on the table, he played every position on the field for his Lax team except goalie and excelled at the highest levels in each of them. Duke, UNC, Hop, Penn, Harvard, all drooling over him. So take a little advice and eat some humble pie, be hopeful your son gets a few looks when he gets older. To say he'll have his pick of schools is just plain ignorant at best.
There might be athletic freak of natures out there- but they are most likely going to pick a single sport to play, and with lax scholarships far less stellar than basketball, baseball and football, most likely, these kids will pick another sport. If these kids do pick 2 sports, remember they have to be able to stay in school- which the better schools and Ivy's are not academic givens because you play a sport.
While my kid is headed to Catholic school, many of his 91 friends are public school kids and their schools are competitive HS, ranked high in the state and country, so I do not think their parents are too worried. Plenty of 91 kids will do fine and do not need Express or Catholic schools for their academic success or lax success.
You're missing the point and uninformed. Your son is not just competing with other kids from LI and Maryland anymore for a D1 or Ivy slot. This sport is going national, your son will be competing against superior athletes. You have no idea... You will however be educated shortly. Good Luck.
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You're missing the point and uninformed. Your son is not just competing with other kids from LI and Maryland anymore for a D1 or Ivy slot. This sport is going national, your son will be competing against superior athletes. You have no idea... You will however be educated shortly. Good Luck.
how do you know that they are uninformed and have know idea? how do you know what kind of student or athlete their kid is? everybody gets it, lots more kids playing lacrosse and more competition for D1 spots, if you are a good lacrosse player and a good student their will be a place for you and if you are a great player you will get into a better academic school then you could have without lacrosse. Matt Kavanagh is lucky you are not his parent, you would have told him their is too much competition and he is too small so educate yourself and find a nice little D3 school to go to.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
You're missing the point and uninformed. Your son is not just competing with other kids from LI and Maryland anymore for a D1 or Ivy slot. This sport is going national, your son will be competing against superior athletes. You have no idea... You will however be educated shortly. Good Luck.
how do you know that they are uninformed and have know idea? how do you know what kind of student or athlete their kid is? everybody gets it, lots more kids playing lacrosse and more competition for D1 spots, if you are a good lacrosse player and a good student their will be a place for you and if you are a great player you will get into a better academic school then you could have without lacrosse. Matt Kavanagh is lucky you are not his parent, you would have told him their is too much competition and he is too small so educate yourself and find a nice little D3 school to go to.
donkey, saying your kid is going to have his pick of schools both athletically and academically before he even see's a recruiting venue is uninformed, arrogant and ignorant. Never said that they should hold the kid down. I say reach for the stars, but tone it down a bit. Obviously, you haven't been in this game for a while, ask the director of this club what he thinks? See if you get a similar answer to what I'm saying?
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That does not mean the kids are coming out strong academically. I am stating what I have seen from experience. Of course the kids fron St. A are all going to college, the question is, where are they going? Lets compare the Ivy acceptance to top publics like GC, Syosset, 3V, Manhasset, Commack, Jericho, etc. You might be surprised! Keep wasting your money unless you are from a poor-performing district, you are crazy
Don't label it a waste of money or call parents crazy for choosing to send their kid to a Catholic school even though they may live in a top school district. The decision is a personal one for each family and is typically based on much more than lacrosse. It is fine that you have made another choice for your son....but you sound ignorant (not to mention anti-Catholic) when you post such comments. Everyone makes their own choices and you don't get to judge how others raise their kids. Maybe now we can get back to Express....
I'm not anti catholic but I do find it ironic that a school that is supposed to be teaching values has to expel kids for racially insensitive behavior ( article in Newsday). That would not happen at my son's school
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That does not mean the kids are coming out strong academically. I am stating what I have seen from experience. Of course the kids fron St. A are all going to college, the question is, where are they going? Lets compare the Ivy acceptance to top publics like GC, Syosset, 3V, Manhasset, Commack, Jericho, etc. You might be surprised! Keep wasting your money unless you are from a poor-performing district, you are crazy
Don't label it a waste of money or call parents crazy for choosing to send their kid to a Catholic school even though they may live in a top school district. The decision is a personal one for each family and is typically based on much more than lacrosse. It is fine that you have made another choice for your son....but you sound ignorant (not to mention anti-Catholic) when you post such comments. Everyone makes their own choices and you don't get to judge how others raise their kids. Maybe now we can get back to Express....
I'm not anti catholic but I do find it ironic that a school that is supposed to be teaching values has to expel kids for racially insensitive behavior ( article in Newsday). That would not happen at my son's school
You are correct. The kids would not have been expelled at a public school.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You're missing the point and uninformed. Your son is not just competing with other kids from LI and Maryland anymore for a D1 or Ivy slot. This sport is going national, your son will be competing against superior athletes. You have no idea... You will however be educated shortly. Good Luck.
how do you know that they are uninformed and have know idea? how do you know what kind of student or athlete their kid is? everybody gets it, lots more kids playing lacrosse and more competition for D1 spots, if you are a good lacrosse player and a good student their will be a place for you and if you are a great player you will get into a better academic school then you could have without lacrosse. Matt Kavanagh is lucky you are not his parent, you would have told him their is too much competition and he is too small so educate yourself and find a nice little D3 school to go to.
donkey, saying your kid is going to have his pick of schools both athletically and academically before he even see's a recruiting venue is uninformed, arrogant and ignorant. Never said that they should hold the kid down. I say reach for the stars, but tone it down a bit. Obviously, you haven't been in this game for a while, ask the director of this club what he thinks? See if you get a similar answer to what I'm saying?
I was not the original poster, I simply replied to your reply to their original post - I have been in the game a while, I have one playing in college right now, one going into college in September and one in HS going through the recruiting process right now so I have an idea. My only point to you was that you called the original poster out for having no idea what was going on when you have no idea how good their kid is or what the kids grades are, I agree that it is a much larger recruiting pool then it was even 5 years ago but Long Island will continue to produce D1 players at all the top schools. you arrogant, small minded donkey
Anyone know if there is going to be a winter league and fall tournaments for all 2017 express teams this year?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That does not mean the kids are coming out strong academically. I am stating what I have seen from experience. Of course the kids fron St. A are all going to college, the question is, where are they going? Lets compare the Ivy acceptance to top publics like GC, Syosset, 3V, Manhasset, Commack, Jericho, etc. You might be surprised! Keep wasting your money unless you are from a poor-performing district, you are crazy
Don't label it a waste of money or call parents crazy for choosing to send their kid to a Catholic school even though they may live in a top school district. The decision is a personal one for each family and is typically based on much more than lacrosse. It is fine that you have made another choice for your son....but you sound ignorant (not to mention anti-Catholic) when you post such comments. Everyone makes their own choices and you don't get to judge how others raise their kids. Maybe now we can get back to Express....
I'm not anti catholic but I do find it ironic that a school that is supposed to be teaching values has to expel kids for racially insensitive behavior ( article in Newsday). That would not happen at my son's school
You are correct. The kids would not have been expelled at a public school.
But it didn't happen in public, it happened at St. As!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That does not mean the kids are coming out strong academically. I am stating what I have seen from experience. Of course the kids fron St. A are all going to college, the question is, where are they going? Lets compare the Ivy acceptance to top publics like GC, Syosset, 3V, Manhasset, Commack, Jericho, etc. You might be surprised! Keep wasting your money unless you are from a poor-performing district, you are crazy
Don't label it a waste of money or call parents crazy for choosing to send their kid to a Catholic school even though they may live in a top school district. The decision is a personal one for each family and is typically based on much more than lacrosse. It is fine that you have made another choice for your son....but you sound ignorant (not to mention anti-Catholic) when you post such comments. Everyone makes their own choices and you don't get to judge how others raise their kids. Maybe now we can get back to Express....
I'm not anti catholic but I do find it ironic that a school that is supposed to be teaching values has to expel kids for racially insensitive behavior ( article in Newsday). That would not happen at my son's school
You are correct. The kids would not have been expelled at a public school.
But it didn't happen in public, it happened at St. As!
Let it go, guy. We get it. You hate Catholic high schools and think they are a complete waste of money supported only by crazy parents. Public schools are a superior option in your view. Are you happy now or would you like to engage in more Catholic bashing before returning to a discussion of lax?
And St. Anthonys took care of it. Are you saying that St. Anthonys should not have expelled these kids? Or that they should have filtered them out before accepting them into school?
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[quote=Anonymous]That does not mean the kids are coming out strong academically. I am stating what I have seen from experience. Of course the kids fron St. A are all going to college, the question is, where are they going? Lets compare the Ivy acceptance to top publics like GC, Syosset, 3V, Manhasset, Commack, Jericho, etc. You might be surprised! Keep wasting your money unless you are from a poor-performing district, you are crazy
Don't label it a waste of money or call parents crazy for choosing to send their kid to a Catholic school even though they may live in a top school district. The decision is a personal one for each family and is typically based on much more than lacrosse. It is fine that you have made another choice for your son....but you sound ignorant (not to mention anti-Catholic) when you post such comments. Everyone makes their own choices and you don't get to judge how others raise their kids. Maybe now we can get back to Express....
I'm not anti catholic but I do find it ironic that a school that is supposed to be teaching values has to expel kids for racially insensitive behavior ( article in Newsday). That would not happen at my son's school
You are correct. The kids would not have been expelled at a public school.
But it didn't happen in public, it happened at St. As! [/quote
]
I find it ironic that you EXPRESS such contempt for those of us who choose to pursue a catholic education for our children and Saint Anthony's in particular and yet you choose to have your son play lacrosse in a program run by coaches from Saint Anthony's whose rosters are filled with current and future Saint Anthony's students. Nice.
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[quote=Anonymous]That does not mean the kids are coming out strong academically. I am stating what I have seen from experience. Of course the kids fron St. A are all going to college, the question is, where are they going? Lets compare the Ivy acceptance to top publics like GC, Syosset, 3V, Manhasset, Commack, Jericho, etc. You might be surprised! Keep wasting your money unless you are from a poor-performing district, you are crazy
Don't label it a waste of money or call parents crazy for choosing to send their kid to a Catholic school even though they may live in a top school district. The decision is a personal one for each family and is typically based on much more than lacrosse. It is fine that you have made another choice for your son....but you sound ignorant (not to mention anti-Catholic) when you post such comments. Everyone makes their own choices and you don't get to judge how others raise their kids. Maybe now we can get back to Express....
I'm not anti catholic but I do find it ironic that a school that is supposed to be teaching values has to expel kids for racially insensitive behavior ( article in Newsday). That would not happen at my son's school
You are correct. The kids would not have been expelled at a public school.
But it didn't happen in public, it happened at St. As! [/quote
]
I find it ironic that you EXPRESS such contempt for those of us who choose to pursue a catholic education for our children and Saint Anthony's in particular and yet you choose to have your son play lacrosse in a program run by coaches from Saint Anthony's whose rosters are filled with current and future Saint Anthony's students. Nice.
I only had to defend the publics after a previous poster claimed the the public "teach down"? Completely untrue. The great public schools are much better academically with lon lists of AP scholars attending presidio us universities. Also the character piece is lacking. Do you really think the article in Newsday is the only incident? I know of several other incidents that show st. A's kids not acting morally in school sponsored events.
How many st a 2017s are committed and to where? If we want to get back to lax.
Take your nasty, conclusory comments elsewhere. This is a lacrosse forum not a forum about the merits of religious education!
kids can get a great education and St A's and Cham
kids can get a great education at a public school
kids get in trouble at ST. A's and Chaminade
kids get in trouble high at public schools
kids can have a good or bad experience playing lax at ST. A's and Chaminade
kids can have a good or bad experience playing lax at public schools
Kids are kids - some float by and some make the most of it, I would venture to guess that the very successful student athletes at St A's and Cham would also be very successful at their own public HS and visa versa.
Parochials have one big advantages over publics, they do not have to keep a problem child in school and the publics do.
The big wild card is the religious aspect and if the child (not the parent) is going to benefit from learning in a more structured and spiritual environment then more power to them.
But from my experience with kids from my town that pass up the public education - they drink, curse, smoke and screw at the same rate as the public school kids
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How many st a 2017s are committed and to where? If we want to get back to lax.
None?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
kids can get a great education and St A's and Cham
kids can get a great education at a public school
kids get in trouble at ST. A's and Chaminade
kids get in trouble high at public schools
kids can have a good or bad experience playing lax at ST. A's and Chaminade
kids can have a good or bad experience playing lax at public schools
Kids are kids - some float by and some make the most of it, I would venture to guess that the very successful student athletes at St A's and Cham would also be very successful at their own public HS and visa versa.
Parochials have one big advantages over publics, they do not have to keep a problem child in school and the publics do.
The big wild card is the religious aspect and if the child (not the parent) is going to benefit from learning in a more structured and spiritual environment then more power to them.
But from my experience with kids from my town that pass up the public education - they drink, curse, smoke and screw at the same rate as the public school kids
You were making arguable sense until that last paragraph........
I am sending my kids to Catholic school. Not for lacrosse, but they play. So can we end this silly comparison. It is clear that a lot of today's exposure is done at the showcase events. So it doesn't matter where you play as long as you are a team that gets into these high level showcases. Adrenaline, NXT, Maverick, etc.
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I am sending my kids to Catholic school. Not for lacrosse, but they play. So can we end this silly comparison. It is clear that a lot of today's exposure is done at the showcase events. So it doesn't matter where you play as long as you are a team that gets into these high level showcases. Adrenaline, NXT, Maverick, etc.
Unfortunately, st Anthony kids were not either at, or not top performers while at said events, other organizations/schools faired much better (check inside lacrosse). So I don't get your point.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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I am sending my kids to Catholic school. Not for lacrosse, but they play. So can we end this silly comparison. It is clear that a lot of today's exposure is done at the showcase events. So it doesn't matter where you play as long as you are a team that gets into these high level showcases. Adrenaline, NXT, Maverick, etc.
Unfortunately, st Anthony kids were not either at, or not top performers while at said events, other organizations/schools faired much better (check inside lacrosse). So I don't get your point.
Point is it doesn't make a difference where you go. Just stop the school bashing comparison.
after reading the last few pages I have decided to home school and teach him solitaire lacrosse
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I am sending my kids to Catholic school. Not for lacrosse, but they play. So can we end this silly comparison. It is clear that a lot of today's exposure is done at the showcase events. So it doesn't matter where you play as long as you are a team that gets into these high level showcases. Adrenaline, NXT, Maverick, etc.
Unfortunately, st Anthony kids were not either at, or not top performers while at said events, other organizations/schools faired much better (check inside lacrosse). So I don't get your point.
Not a St A's parent, but did you happen to notice this years Varsity team had 18 D1 recruits on it? With at least one or more Ivies on the list. I think all is fine there. Give it a rest. I think the kids made out just fine for themselves, don't you?
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[quote=Anonymous]That does not mean the kids are coming out strong academically. I am stating what I have seen from experience. Of course the kids fron St. A are all going to college, the question is, where are they going? Lets compare the Ivy acceptance to top publics like GC, Syosset, 3V, Manhasset, Commack, Jericho, etc. You might be surprised! Keep wasting your money unless you are from a poor-performing district, you are crazy
Don't label it a waste of money or call parents crazy for choosing to send their kid to a Catholic school even though they may live in a top school district. The decision is a personal one for each family and is typically based on much more than lacrosse. It is fine that you have made another choice for your son....but you sound ignorant (not to mention anti-Catholic) when you post such comments. Everyone makes their own choices and you don't get to judge how others raise their kids. Maybe now we can get back to Express....
I'm not anti catholic but I do find it ironic that a school that is supposed to be teaching values has to expel kids for racially insensitive behavior ( article in Newsday). That would not happen at my son's school
You are correct. The kids would not have been expelled at a public school.
But it didn't happen in public, it happened at St. As! [/quote
]
I find it ironic that you EXPRESS such contempt for those of us who choose to pursue a catholic education for our children and Saint Anthony's in particular and yet you choose to have your son play lacrosse in a program run by coaches from Saint Anthony's whose rosters are filled with current and future Saint Anthony's students. Nice.
I only had to defend the publics after a previous poster claimed the the public "teach down"? Completely untrue. The great public schools are much better academically with lon lists of AP scholars attending presidio us universities. Also the character piece is lacking. Do you really think the article in Newsday is the only incident? I know of several other incidents that show st. A's kids not acting morally in school sponsored events.
You are an idiot! You can find kids not acting "morally" from every public or private school. Public will not make Newsday though. And i would love to see the "long" list of public schools that are acedemicly better than Chaminade.
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I am sending my kids to Catholic school. Not for lacrosse, but they play. So can we end this silly comparison. It is clear that a lot of today's exposure is done at the showcase events. So it doesn't matter where you play as long as you are a team that gets into these high level showcases. Adrenaline, NXT, Maverick, etc.
Exactly! This is where the recruiting process has shifted to.
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How many st a 2017s are committed and to where? If we want to get back to lax.
None?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many st a 2017s are committed and to where? If we want to get back to lax.
None?
LIE CLASS OF 2017 COMMITTED
James Avanzato - 2017 Maryland - Sachem North
Lucas Capobianco-Hogan - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Mt. Sinai
Steven Cuccurullo - 2017 Harvard - Smithtown East
Connor DeSimone - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Smithtown East
Jack Keogh - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Manhasset
Michael Latini - 2017 Fairfield - Smithtown East
Terrence Mooney - 2017 UPENN - St. Anthony's
Steven Schneider - 2017 North Carolina - Manhasset
frankie Tangredi - 2017 Harvard - Chaminade
Ara Atayan - 2017 North Carolina - Bronxeville
Selden Leonard - 2017 Cornell - Choate
Uno Waite - 2017 Cornell - Deerfield
Matt Chmil - 2017 Duke - Chaminade
Tyler Senerchia - 2017 Bucknell - St. Anthony's
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many st a 2017s are committed and to where? If we want to get back to lax.
None?
LIE CLASS OF 2017 COMMITTED
James Avanzato - 2017 Maryland - Sachem North
Lucas Capobianco-Hogan - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Mt. Sinai
Steven Cuccurullo - 2017 Harvard - Smithtown East
Connor DeSimone - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Smithtown East
Jack Keogh - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Manhasset
Michael Latini - 2017 Fairfield - Smithtown East
Terrence Mooney - 2017 UPENN - St. Anthony's
Steven Schneider - 2017 North Carolina - Manhasset
frankie Tangredi - 2017 Harvard - Chaminade
Ara Atayan - 2017 North Carolina - Bronxeville
Selden Leonard - 2017 Cornell - Choate
Uno Waite - 2017 Cornell - Deerfield
Matt Chmil - 2017 Duke - Chaminade
Tyler Senerchia - 2017 Bucknell - St. Anthony's
suprised to see only 2 St Anthony's and 2 Chaminade kids on that list
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many st a 2017s are committed and to where? If we want to get back to lax.
None?
LIE CLASS OF 2017 COMMITTED
James Avanzato - 2017 Maryland - Sachem North
Lucas Capobianco-Hogan - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Mt. Sinai
Steven Cuccurullo - 2017 Harvard - Smithtown East
Connor DeSimone - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Smithtown East
Jack Keogh - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Manhasset
Michael Latini - 2017 Fairfield - Smithtown East
Terrence Mooney - 2017 UPENN - St. Anthony's
Steven Schneider - 2017 North Carolina - Manhasset
frankie Tangredi - 2017 Harvard - Chaminade
Ara Atayan - 2017 North Carolina - Bronxeville
Selden Leonard - 2017 Cornell - Choate
Uno Waite - 2017 Cornell - Deerfield
Matt Chmil - 2017 Duke - Chaminade
Tyler Senerchia - 2017 Bucknell - St. Anthony's
suprised to see only 2 St Anthony's and 2 Chaminade kids on that list
How about instead of 'surprised', congratulations or nice job.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many st a 2017s are committed and to where? If we want to get back to lax.
None?
LIE CLASS OF 2017 COMMITTED
James Avanzato - 2017 Maryland - Sachem North
Lucas Capobianco-Hogan - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Mt. Sinai
Steven Cuccurullo - 2017 Harvard - Smithtown East
Connor DeSimone - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Smithtown East
Jack Keogh - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Manhasset
Michael Latini - 2017 Fairfield - Smithtown East
Terrence Mooney - 2017 UPENN - St. Anthony's
Steven Schneider - 2017 North Carolina - Manhasset
frankie Tangredi - 2017 Harvard - Chaminade
Ara Atayan - 2017 North Carolina - Bronxeville
Selden Leonard - 2017 Cornell - Choate
Uno Waite - 2017 Cornell - Deerfield
Matt Chmil - 2017 Duke - Chaminade
Tyler Senerchia - 2017 Bucknell - St. Anthony's
suprised to see only 2 St Anthony's and 2 Chaminade kids on that list
your joking right? 14 rising sophomores committed before they enter 10th grade and "only" two are St, A's? list looks pretty impressive to me
according to inside lacrosse - 22 2017's have committed from LI - 14 Express and 2 St A's. pretty impressive
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many st a 2017s are committed and to where? If we want to get back to lax.
None?
LIE CLASS OF 2017 COMMITTED
James Avanzato - 2017 Maryland - Sachem North
Lucas Capobianco-Hogan - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Mt. Sinai
Steven Cuccurullo - 2017 Harvard - Smithtown East
Connor DeSimone - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Smithtown East
Jack Keogh - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Manhasset
Michael Latini - 2017 Fairfield - Smithtown East
Terrence Mooney - 2017 UPENN - St. Anthony's
Steven Schneider - 2017 North Carolina - Manhasset
frankie Tangredi - 2017 Harvard - Chaminade
Ara Atayan - 2017 North Carolina - Bronxeville
Selden Leonard - 2017 Cornell - Choate
Uno Waite - 2017 Cornell - Deerfield
Matt Chmil - 2017 Duke - Chaminade
Tyler Senerchia - 2017 Bucknell - St. Anthony's
suprised to see only 2 St Anthony's and 2 Chaminade kids on that list
your joking right? 14 rising sophomores committed before they enter 10th grade and "only" two are St, A's? list looks pretty impressive to me
Congratulations to the Chaminade kid who repeated 8th grade.....
Congrtas to the Deerfield kid who should be goingbinto senior year....
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Congrtas to the Deerfield kid who should be goingbinto senior year....
If the colleges don't care, why should the kids or their parents?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many st a 2017s are committed and to where? If we want to get back to lax.
None?
LIE CLASS OF 2017 COMMITTED
James Avanzato - 2017 Maryland - Sachem North
Lucas Capobianco-Hogan - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Mt. Sinai
Steven Cuccurullo - 2017 Harvard - Smithtown East
Connor DeSimone - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Smithtown East
Jack Keogh - 2017 Johns Hopkins - Manhasset
Michael Latini - 2017 Fairfield - Smithtown East
Terrence Mooney - 2017 UPENN - St. Anthony's
Steven Schneider - 2017 North Carolina - Manhasset
frankie Tangredi - 2017 Harvard - Chaminade
Ara Atayan - 2017 North Carolina - Bronxeville
Selden Leonard - 2017 Cornell - Choate
Uno Waite - 2017 Cornell - Deerfield
Matt Chmil - 2017 Duke - Chaminade
Tyler Senerchia - 2017 Bucknell - St. Anthony's
suprised to see only 2 St Anthony's and 2 Chaminade kids on that list
How about instead of 'surprised', congratulations or nice job.
EXACTLY!
How about it's nobody's business what somebody does with their kid. No rules are being broken. And if it helps a kid get into his dream college of choice, that's awesome for him.
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Congrtas to the Deerfield kid who should be goingbinto senior year....
If the colleges don't care, why should the kids or their parents?
Couldn't agree more. And it is a very impressive list. Plus I think one or two were left off. Congrats to all!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrtas to the Deerfield kid who should be goingbinto senior year....
If the colleges don't care, why should the kids or their parents?
Couldn't agree more. And it is a very impressive list. Plus I think one or two were left off. Congrats to all!
Where is the list of the express players from? Is it posted online somewhere?
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Congratulations to the Chaminade kid who repeated 8th grade.....
not sure which one he is or if it is even true but yes congratulations is in order he is going to Harvard or Duke, looks like a good decision to me, I am jealous for my kid
I couldn't find it posted anywhere.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrtas to the Deerfield kid who should be goingbinto senior year....
If the colleges don't care, why should the kids or their parents?
Couldn't agree more. And it is a very impressive list. Plus I think one or two were left off. Congrats to all!
Where is the list of the express players from? Is it posted online somewhere?
Yes on their website under Recent Commits link. It was also emailed out t
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrtas to the Deerfield kid who should be goingbinto senior year....
If the colleges don't care, why should the kids or their parents?
Couldn't agree more. And it is a very impressive list. Plus I think one or two were left off. Congrats to all!
Where is the list of the express players from? Is it posted online somewhere?
Yes on their website under Recent Commits link. It was also emailed out t
Looks like being on a good travel team is way more important than the HS you go to.
More on the way! We are in a dark period, more after September 1st.
Can kids commit during the dark period?
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More on the way! We are in a dark period, more after September 1st.
Don't think so. Several commits today alone
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Congrtas to the Deerfield kid who should be goingbinto senior year....
If the colleges don't care, why should the kids or their parents?
So 2017 Express tuiton is around 1800 this year but do you have to pay for tournaments as well, are they an extra fee?
This is off of Norte dames website. Lists quiet and dead periods and explains them.....http://ncaacompliance.nd.edu/RecruitingCalendars.shtml#LacrosseM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrtas to the Deerfield kid who should be goingbinto senior year....
If the colleges don't care, why should the kids or their parents?
Couldn't agree more. And it is a very impressive list. Plus I think one or two were left off. Congrats to all!
Where is the list of the express players from? Is it posted online somewhere?
Yes on their website under Recent Commits link. It was also emailed out t
Looks like being on a good travel team is way more important than the HS you go to.
That appears to be the trend.
The strong link between the Catholics and St A's and
Chaminade has been weakening and will continue
To weaken going forward.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrtas to the Deerfield kid who should be goingbinto senior year....
Where is the list of the express players from? Is it posted online somewhere?
Yes on their website under Recent Commits link. It was also emailed out t
Looks like being on a good travel team is way more important than the HS you go to.
That appears to be the trend.
The strong link between the Catholics and St A's and
Chaminade has been weakening and will continue
To weaken going forward.
What the heck does that mean???
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrtas to the Deerfield kid who should be goingbinto senior year....
Where is the list of the express players from? Is it posted online somewhere?
Yes on their website under Recent Commits link. It was also emailed out t
Looks like being on a good travel team is way more important than the HS you go to.
That appears to be the trend.
The strong link between the Catholics and St A's and
Chaminade has been weakening and will continue
To weaken going forward.
What the heck does that mean???
It means that the best kids will be committed through their travel team long before they see the field at the Catholics, while great freshman brought up to varsity at good HS programs will continue to get recruited though the season as well as the top 20 games which are heavily attended by top coaches. Got it? Catholic is a dinosaur in the lax evolution!
Not sure it has anything to do with Catholic vs. public.
We had a kid in our town commit and he is on the JV.....clearly he got his look from his club team and a great performance at an important showcase.
We had a kid in our town commit and he is on the JV.....clearly he got his look from his club team and a great performance at an important showcase.
It means that going private for lax reasons is pointless in the current recruiting climate.
Yes on their website under Recent Commits link. It was also emailed out t [/quote]
Looks like being on a good travel team is way more important than the HS you go to.
That appears to be the trend.
The strong link between the Catholics and St A's and
Chaminade has been weakening and will continue
To weaken going forward. [/quote][/quote]
What the heck does that mean??? [/quote]
It means that the best kids will be committed through their travel team long before they see the field at the Catholics, while great freshman brought up to varsity at good HS programs will continue to get recruited though the season as well as the top 20 games which are heavily attended by top coaches. Got it? Catholic is a dinosaur in the lax evolution! [/quote]
Ok if you say so. Whatever works for each individual family. Wish you and your son much luck and hopefully he gets to wherever he would like to go with his education and lacrosse however you see fit to pursue it.
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Not sure it has anything to do with Catholic vs. public.
We had a kid in our town commit and he is on the JV.....clearly he got his look from his club team and a great performance at an important showcase.
We had a kid in our town commit and he is on the JV.....clearly he got his look from his club team and a great performance at an important showcase.
That's right - school team lacrosse is becoming irrelevant, as I believe it has in soccer. Unless you're from a powerhouse, like West Islip, Ward Melville, Smithtown, etc., HS lax is to keep your game up, and have fun with your classmates.
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It means that going private for lax reasons is pointless in the current recruiting climate.
as a public school dad I must say I do not agree - putting aside the great education and religious aspects - not to many HS games are being scouted until the playoffs when the colleges are done, because the colleges know that 99% of Chaminade kids play JV in 10th grade it is not a stigma that it might be on a public school kid still playing JV in 10th grade. The Cham v. St Anthony's JV is very well attended by college coaches and based on the the signings that these schools are still making I think it is not hurting the kids as far as being recruited having said that I do not think any kid can get recruited without playing club and going to individual camps. Chaminade has rising senior goalies going to Providence and Binghamton and a rising junior going to Notre Dame - none of them have had significant time in goal yet and all three made out OK
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Yes on their website under Recent Commits link. It was also emailed out t
Looks like being on a good travel team is way more important than the HS you go to.
That appears to be the trend.
The strong link between the Catholics and St A's and
Chaminade has been weakening and will continue
To weaken going forward. [/quote][/quote]
What the heck does that mean??? [/quote]
It means that the best kids will be committed through their travel team long before they see the field at the Catholics, while great freshman brought up to varsity at good HS programs will continue to get recruited though the season as well as the top 20 games which are heavily attended by top coaches. Got it? Catholic is a dinosaur in the lax evolution! [/quote]
Ok if you say so. Whatever works for each individual family. Wish you and your son much luck and hopefully he gets to wherever he would like to go with his education and lacrosse however you see fit to pursue it. [/quote]
Express originally started as a summer travel team for the top St Anthony's and Chaminade kids run by the coaches from those schools. Now the vast majority of kids on Express A teams are from non Catholic schools. they get 200 plus kids to show up at tryouts per age group. $100 bucks a pop. So St Anthony's and Chaminade kids are no different than any other kid showing up.
When are the tryouts for Express North?
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It means that going private for lax reasons is pointless in the current recruiting climate.
as a public school dad I must say I do not agree - putting aside the great education and religious aspects - not to many HS games are being scouted until the playoffs when the colleges are done, because the colleges know that 99% of Chaminade kids play JV in 10th grade it is not a stigma that it might be on a public school kid still playing JV in 10th grade. The Cham v. St Anthony's JV is very well attended by college coaches and based on the the signings that these schools are still making I think it is not hurting the kids as far as being recruited having said that I do not think any kid can get recruited without playing club and going to individual camps. Chaminade has rising senior goalies going to Providence and Binghamton and a rising junior going to Notre Dame - none of them have had significant time in goal yet and all three made out OK
Great post! Completely agree.
Express North is Westchester and Ct.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It means that going private for lax reasons is pointless in the current recruiting climate.
as a public school dad I must say I do not agree - putting aside the great education and religious aspects - not to many HS games are being scouted until the playoffs when the colleges are done, because the colleges know that 99% of Chaminade kids play JV in 10th grade it is not a stigma that it might be on a public school kid still playing JV in 10th grade. The Cham v. St Anthony's JV is very well attended by college coaches and based on the the signings that these schools are still making I think it is not hurting the kids as far as being recruited having said that I do not think any kid can get recruited without playing club and going to individual camps. Chaminade has rising senior goalies going to Providence and Binghamton and a rising junior going to Notre Dame - none of them have had significant time in goal yet and all three made out OK
Great post! Completely agree.
ND a great school. Let me be clear, I would be happy with my son going to either Providence or Binghamton. However, do you really need to go to Chaminade to get into one of those schools? Unless the religious aspect is a major part of the HS decision, I don't see what those kids gained? $40k for a HS education, to go to a college that most public school lax kids with less than a 90 average could get into? I don't see the value. Before you bite my head off, you need to realize a recruited athlete needs lower grades and sat's than the average student.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It means that going private for lax reasons is pointless in the current recruiting climate.
as a public school dad I must say I do not agree - putting aside the great education and religious aspects - not to many HS games are being scouted until the playoffs when the colleges are done, because the colleges know that 99% of Chaminade kids play JV in 10th grade it is not a stigma that it might be on a public school kid still playing JV in 10th grade. The Cham v. St Anthony's JV is very well attended by college coaches and based on the the signings that these schools are still making I think it is not hurting the kids as far as being recruited having said that I do not think any kid can get recruited without playing club and going to individual camps. Chaminade has rising senior goalies going to Providence and Binghamton and a rising junior going to Notre Dame - none of them have had significant time in goal yet and all three made out OK
Great post! Completely agree.
ND a great school. Let me be clear, I would be happy with my son going to either Providence or Binghamton. However, do you really need to go to Chaminade to get into one of those schools? Unless the religious aspect is a major part of the HS decision, I don't see what those kids gained? $40k for a HS education, to go to a college that most public school lax kids with less than a 90 average could get into? I don't see the value. Before you bite my head off, you need to realize a recruited athlete needs lower grades and sat's than the average student.
Many chaminade graduates not attending top 50 schools even with lax.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It means that going private for lax reasons is pointless in the current recruiting climate.
as a public school dad I must say I do not agree - putting aside the great education and religious aspects - not to many HS games are being scouted until the playoffs when the colleges are done, because the colleges know that 99% of Chaminade kids play JV in 10th grade it is not a stigma that it might be on a public school kid still playing JV in 10th grade. The Cham v. St Anthony's JV is very well attended by college coaches and based on the the signings that these schools are still making I think it is not hurting the kids as far as being recruited having said that I do not think any kid can get recruited without playing club and going to individual camps. Chaminade has rising senior goalies going to Providence and Binghamton and a rising junior going to Notre Dame - none of them have had significant time in goal yet and all three made out OK
Great post! Completely agree.
ND a great school. Let me be clear, I would be happy with my son going to either Providence or Binghamton. However, do you really need to go to Chaminade to get into one of those schools? Unless the religious aspect is a major part of the HS decision, I don't see what those kids gained? $40k for a HS education, to go to a college that most public school lax kids with less than a 90 average could get into? I don't see the value. Before you bite my head off, you need to realize a recruited athlete needs lower grades and sat's than the average student.
Do you think that ALL parents of Chaminade or St.Ants lacrosse players send their kids to these H.S.'s with all hopes leaning towards "Duke" or "ND" or any Ivy/Patriots/NESCACS??? Thats not it, its about these schools PREPARE a student athlete for college better than SOME of the public schools on LI.
Also, did you ever think that there is a great chance that these student athletes WANTED to go to a Providence or Binghamton? Is that a BAD thing? So, if your kid is a Friar or Flyer and he doesn't go to a "Power D1" lax program does that make him a failure? The answer is NO.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It means that going private for lax reasons is pointless in the current recruiting climate.
as a public school dad I must say I do not agree - putting aside the great education and religious aspects - not to many HS games are being scouted until the playoffs when the colleges are done, because the colleges know that 99% of Chaminade kids play JV in 10th grade it is not a stigma that it might be on a public school kid still playing JV in 10th grade. The Cham v. St Anthony's JV is very well attended by college coaches and based on the the signings that these schools are still making I think it is not hurting the kids as far as being recruited having said that I do not think any kid can get recruited without playing club and going to individual camps. Chaminade has rising senior goalies going to Providence and Binghamton and a rising junior going to Notre Dame - none of them have had significant time in goal yet and all three made out OK
Great post! Completely agree.
ND a great school. Let me be clear, I would be happy with my son going to either Providence or Binghamton. However, do you really need to go to Chaminade to get into one of those schools? Unless the religious aspect is a major part of the HS decision, I don't see what those kids gained? $40k for a HS education, to go to a college that most public school lax kids with less than a 90 average could get into? I don't see the value. Before you bite my head off, you need to realize a recruited athlete needs lower grades and sat's than the average student.
Take lacrosse out of the equation and you still have about 480 boys in each grade that go to Chaminade without playing lacrosse, and how many lacrosse players go to Chaminade, get cut and still stay there even thought they would play and maybe start at their own HS - CHaminade alone will not get you into that dream school but it sure doesn't hurt
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It means that going private for lax reasons is pointless in the current recruiting climate.
as a public school dad I must say I do not agree - putting aside the great education and religious aspects - not to many HS games are being scouted until the playoffs when the colleges are done, because the colleges know that 99% of Chaminade kids play JV in 10th grade it is not a stigma that it might be on a public school kid still playing JV in 10th grade. The Cham v. St Anthony's JV is very well attended by college coaches and based on the the signings that these schools are still making I think it is not hurting the kids as far as being recruited having said that I do not think any kid can get recruited without playing club and going to individual camps. Chaminade has rising senior goalies going to Providence and Binghamton and a rising junior going to Notre Dame - none of them have had significant time in goal yet and all three made out OK
Great post! Completely agree.
ND a great school. Let me be clear, I would be happy with my son going to either Providence or Binghamton. However, do you really need to go to Chaminade to get into one of those schools? Unless the religious aspect is a major part of the HS decision, I don't see what those kids gained? $40k for a HS education, to go to a college that most public school lax kids with less than a 90 average could get into? I don't see the value. Before you bite my head off, you need to realize a recruited athlete needs lower grades and sat's than the average student.
Do you think that ALL parents of Chaminade or St.Ants lacrosse players send their kids to these H.S.'s with all hopes leaning towards "Duke" or "ND" or any Ivy/Patriots/NESCACS??? Thats not it, its about these schools PREPARE a student athlete for college better than SOME of the public schools on LI.
Also, did you ever think that there is a great chance that these student athletes WANTED to go to a Providence or Binghamton? Is that a BAD thing? So, if your kid is a Friar or Flyer and he doesn't go to a "Power D1" lax program does that make him a failure? The answer is NO.
The poster who dissed a Chaminade education is clearly clueless or in denial. One simple fact: What public school has THE standard of one test counting for 1/2 of the students entire grade for the year IN EACH subject? I can't even believe I'm wasting my time with this nonsense but it does infuriate me when someone compares Chaminade to any public school. Have at it but you won't be hearing from me again. P. s. Another fact is no calculators are allowed until junior year!😱
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It means that going private for lax reasons is pointless in the current recruiting climate.
as a public school dad I must say I do not agree - putting aside the great education and religious aspects - not to many HS games are being scouted until the playoffs when the colleges are done, because the colleges know that 99% of Chaminade kids play JV in 10th grade it is not a stigma that it might be on a public school kid still playing JV in 10th grade. The Cham v. St Anthony's JV is very well attended by college coaches and based on the the signings that these schools are still making I think it is not hurting the kids as far as being recruited having said that I do not think any kid can get recruited without playing club and going to individual camps. Chaminade has rising senior goalies going to Providence and Binghamton and a rising junior going to Notre Dame - none of them have had significant time in goal yet and all three made out OK
Great post! Completely agree.
ND a great school. Let me be clear, I would be happy with my son going to either Providence or Binghamton. However, do you really need to go to Chaminade to get into one of those schools? Unless the religious aspect is a major part of the HS decision, I don't see what those kids gained? $40k for a HS education, to go to a college that most public school lax kids with less than a 90 average could get into? I don't see the value. Before you bite my head off, you need to realize a recruited athlete needs lower grades and sat's than the average student.
Do you think that ALL parents of Chaminade or St.Ants lacrosse players send their kids to these H.S.'s with all hopes leaning towards "Duke" or "ND" or any Ivy/Patriots/NESCACS??? Thats not it, its about these schools PREPARE a student athlete for college better than SOME of the public schools on LI.
Also, did you ever think that there is a great chance that these student athletes WANTED to go to a Providence or Binghamton? Is that a BAD thing? So, if your kid is a Friar or Flyer and he doesn't go to a "Power D1" lax program does that make him a failure? The answer is NO.
The poster who dissed a Chaminade education is clearly clueless or in denial. One simple fact: What public school has THE standard of one test counting for 1/2 of the students entire grade for the year IN EACH subject? I can't even believe I'm wasting my time with this nonsense but it does infuriate me when someone compares Chaminade to any public school. Have at it but you won't be hearing from me again. P. s. Another fact is no calculators are allowed until junior year!😱
What you should be infuriated by is a smoke and mirrors approach to education and athletics. You keep paying $$$ while my son is committed to Ivy at our perfectly fine public school. Whose the [lacrosse]? Ha
The poster who dissed a Chaminade education is clearly clueless or in denial. One simple fact: What public school has THE standard of one test counting for 1/2 of the students entire grade for the year IN EACH subject? I can't even believe I'm wasting my time with this nonsense but it does infuriate me when someone compares Chaminade to any public school. Have at it but you won't be hearing from me again. P. s. Another fact is no calculators are allowed until junior year!😱 [/quote]
What you should be infuriated by is a smoke and mirrors approach to education and athletics. You keep paying $$$ while my son is committed to Ivy at our perfectly fine public school. Whose the [lacrosse]? Ha [/quote]
For every one of you there is 10 more at chaminade. Also your public school kid isn't prepared for college. Academics going to crush him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The poster who dissed a Chaminade education is clearly clueless or in denial. One simple fact: What public school has THE standard of one test counting for 1/2 of the students entire grade for the year IN EACH subject? I can't even believe I'm wasting my time with this nonsense but it does infuriate me when someone compares Chaminade to any public school. Have at it but you won't be hearing from me again. P. s. Another fact is no calculators are allowed until junior year!😱
What you should be infuriated by is a smoke and mirrors approach to education and athletics. You keep paying $$$ while my son is committed to Ivy at our perfectly fine public school. Whose the [lacrosse]? Ha [/quote]
For every one of you there is 10 more at chaminade. Also your public school kid isn't prepared for college. Academics going to crush him. [/quote]
You are kidding, right...too funny ..." oh wow, look honey those Chaminade boys are so much smarter and so well prepared. They run circles around those Jericho, Roslyn and Syosset public school kids. And they have better manners and know how to tie their own ties and you ought to hear them bang out a few hail Mary's. The only kids who can keep up on the rosary relay are the ones from South Side because so many of them went to St. Agnes "
What a joke! Don't be stupid you moron.
There is a lot more to be prepared for than just academics when it comes to college. Yes that is the main aspect but there are others. Integrating with different people. Chaminade does not prepare as well as public schools in that area, we all know that.
Ok I think horse has been pretty well beaten at this point. Now back to lax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The poster who dissed a Chaminade education is clearly clueless or in denial. One simple fact: What public school has THE standard of one test counting for 1/2 of the students entire grade for the year IN EACH subject? I can't even believe I'm wasting my time with this nonsense but it does infuriate me when someone compares Chaminade to any public school. Have at it but you won't be hearing from me again. P. s. Another fact is no calculators are allowed until junior year!😱
What you should be infuriated by is a smoke and mirrors approach to education and athletics. You keep paying $$$ while my son is committed to Ivy at our perfectly fine public school. Whose the [lacrosse]? Ha
For every one of you there is 10 more at chaminade. Also your public school kid isn't prepared for college. Academics going to crush him. [/quote]
You are kidding, right...too funny ..." oh wow, look honey those Chaminade boys are so much smarter and so well prepared. They run circles around those Jericho, Roslyn and Syosset public school kids. And they have better manners and know how to tie their own ties and you ought to hear them bang out a few hail Mary's. The only kids who can keep up on the rosary relay are the ones from South Side because so many of them went to St. Agnes "
What a joke! Don't be stupid you moron. [/quote]
OK,OK, This guy wins. His post says it all.
His very gifted and hard working son IS the prototypical product of all public schools on LI.
Those Chaminade boys (athletic or not) are the kids who can't hack it in the public school environment.
They hide behind a few Hail Mary's and spirituality as their means to make up for their lack of intelligence, social skills, character and common sense.
They'll be doomed to struggle in mediocre colleges and a lifetime of low level, meaningless careers making no personal or professional contributions to the community and humanity.
He nailed it. They are all failures at 15yrs old. DONE!
And their parents, don't get me started! He's right about them too. How ridiculous they are for wasting copious amounts of their own their money on Catholic education while at the same time draining valuable public school resources for such things as a late bus. These people are needy leeches who are just paying for a brand or a label.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The poster who dissed a Chaminade education is clearly clueless or in denial. One simple fact: What public school has THE standard of one test counting for 1/2 of the students entire grade for the year IN EACH subject? I can't even believe I'm wasting my time with this nonsense but it does infuriate me when someone compares Chaminade to any public school. Have at it but you won't be hearing from me again. P. s. Another fact is no calculators are allowed until junior year!😱
What you should be infuriated by is a smoke and mirrors approach to education and athletics. You keep paying $$$ while my son is committed to Ivy at our perfectly fine public school. Whose the [lacrosse]? Ha
For every one of you there is 10 more at chaminade. Also your public school kid isn't prepared for college. Academics going to crush him.
You are kidding, right...too funny ..." oh wow, look honey those Chaminade boys are so much smarter and so well prepared. They run circles around those Jericho, Roslyn and Syosset public school kids. And they have better manners and know how to tie their own ties and you ought to hear them bang out a few hail Mary's. The only kids who can keep up on the rosary relay are the ones from South Side because so many of them went to St. Agnes "
What a joke! Don't be stupid you moron. [/quote]
OK,OK, This guy wins. His post says it all.
His very gifted and hard working son IS the prototypical product of all public schools on LI.
Those Chaminade boys (athletic or not) are the kids who can't hack it in the public school environment.
They hide behind a few Hail Mary's and spirituality as their means to make up for their lack of intelligence, social skills, character and common sense.
They'll be doomed to struggle in mediocre colleges and a lifetime of low level, meaningless careers making no personal or professional contributions to the community and humanity.
He nailed it. They are all failures at 15yrs old. DONE!
And their parents, don't get me started! He's right about them too. How ridiculous they are for wasting copious amounts of their own their money on Catholic education while at the same time draining valuable public school resources for such things as a late bus. These people are needy leeches who are just paying for a brand or a label.
How ironic is it that there is a debate about the merits of a Chaminade education here on the long Island Express thread given the fact that Express has thrown the incoming Chaminade class of 2018 under the bus?
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How ironic is it that there is a debate about the merits of a Chaminade education here on the long Island Express thread given the fact that Express has thrown the incoming Chaminade class of 2018 under the bus?
Please explain?
Please explain?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How ironic is it that there is a debate about the merits of a Chaminade education here on the long Island Express thread given the fact that Express has thrown the incoming Chaminade class of 2018 under the bus?
Please explain?
Please explain?
Chaminade freshman class starts a week of full day orientation Monday Aug25 through Friday Aug 29. Any kid playing a sport
has tryouts/practice from 3:30 until 6pm every day that week. Express are having tryouts for the 2018's that Tuesday and Thursday 5pm until 7pm at Mitchel Field. Nice job Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How ironic is it that there is a debate about the merits of a Chaminade education here on the long Island Express thread given the fact that Express has thrown the incoming Chaminade class of 2018 under the bus?
Please explain?
Please explain?
Chaminade freshman class starts a week of full day orientation Monday Aug25 through Friday Aug 29. Any kid playing a sport
has tryouts/practice from 3:30 until 6pm every day that week. Express are having tryouts for the 2018's that Tuesday and Thursday 5pm until 7pm at Mitchel Field. Nice job Express.
yea...I would say you are right about the bus...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How ironic is it that there is a debate about the merits of a Chaminade education here on the long Island Express thread given the fact that Express has thrown the incoming Chaminade class of 2018 under the bus?
Please explain?
Please explain?
Chaminade freshman class starts a week of full day orientation Monday Aug25 through Friday Aug 29. Any kid playing a sport
has tryouts/practice from 3:30 until 6pm every day that week. Express are having tryouts for the 2018's that Tuesday and Thursday 5pm until 7pm at Mitchel Field. Nice job Express.
You would think Moran would know this. Something doesn't sound right.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How ironic is it that there is a debate about the merits of a Chaminade education here on the long Island Express thread given the fact that Express has thrown the incoming Chaminade class of 2018 under the bus?
Please explain?
Please explain?
Chaminade freshman class starts a week of full day orientation Monday Aug25 through Friday Aug 29. Any kid playing a sport
has tryouts/practice from 3:30 until 6pm every day that week. Express are having tryouts for the 2018's that Tuesday and Thursday 5pm until 7pm at Mitchel Field. Nice job Express.
You would think Moran would know this. Something doesn't sound right.
I would guess that the director from Saint Anthony's never checked and that Moran has no idea what's going on. The Chaminade athletes cannot make that tryout or show up late. Full day at school then 2 and half hour practice in full pads for football players THEN show up for lacrosse tryout? Nice job Express
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How ironic is it that there is a debate about the merits of a Chaminade education here on the long Island Express thread given the fact that Express has thrown the incoming Chaminade class of 2018 under the bus?
Please explain?
Please explain?
Chaminade freshman class starts a week of full day orientation Monday Aug25 through Friday Aug 29. Any kid playing a sport
has tryouts/practice from 3:30 until 6pm every day that week. Express are having tryouts for the 2018's that Tuesday and Thursday 5pm until 7pm at Mitchel Field. Nice job Express.
You would think Moran would know this. Something doesn't sound right.
haha, you think Moran cares about the express? When has he? Just like St.A head coach. Those guys mail it in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How ironic is it that there is a debate about the merits of a Chaminade education here on the long Island Express thread given the fact that Express has thrown the incoming Chaminade class of 2018 under the bus?
Please explain?
Please explain?
Chaminade freshman class starts a week of full day orientation Monday Aug25 through Friday Aug 29. Any kid playing a sport
has tryouts/practice from 3:30 until 6pm every day that week. Express are having tryouts for the 2018's that Tuesday and Thursday 5pm until 7pm at Mitchel Field. Nice job Express.
You would think Moran would know this. Something doesn't sound right.
haha, you think Moran cares about the express? When has he? Just like St.A head coach. Those guys mail it in.
The St. As coach puts his time in with the 2020 group because he has a kid there. Love when he wears the orange shirt. Look it's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How ironic is it that there is a debate about the merits of a Chaminade education here on the long Island Express thread given the fact that Express has thrown the incoming Chaminade class of 2018 under the bus?
Please explain?
Please explain?
Chaminade freshman class starts a week of full day orientation Monday Aug25 through Friday Aug 29. Any kid playing a sport
has tryouts/practice from 3:30 until 6pm every day that week. Express are having tryouts for the 2018's that Tuesday and Thursday 5pm until 7pm at Mitchel Field. Nice job Express.
You would think Moran would know this. Something doesn't sound right.
haha, you think Moran cares about the express? When has he? Just like St.A head coach. Those guys mail it in.
The St. As coach puts his time in with the 2020 group because he has a kid there. Love when he wears the orange shirt. Look it's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown!
Nice representation of a public school parent. Way to go!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is a lot more to be prepared for than just academics when it comes to college. Yes that is the main aspect but there are others. Integrating with different people. Chaminade does not prepare as well as public schools in that area, we all know that.
Unless you go to a college that looks like Chaminade. Then there's that life thing unless you work on Wall Street with all you Chaminade buddies.
Getting back to lacrosse...can anyone tell me who are the coaches for both of the 2022 teams? I would appreciate it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Getting back to lacrosse...can anyone tell me who are the coaches for both of the 2022 teams? I would appreciate it.
I've heard that Chanenchuk will coach the 2022 grade, but I'm not sure which team. Dennis Kelly has coached the A team the last cpl/few years and is a solid coach.
But love him or hate him, if Channy coaches the A team he will attract a solid following.
[quote=Anonymous] Dennis Kelly has coached the A team the last cpl/few years and is a solid coach.
/quote]
That is the funniest comment I've read on here in a while. He may be a solid coach but not fit to coach kids!
/quote]
That is the funniest comment I've read on here in a while. He may be a solid coach but not fit to coach kids!
Kelly left for Igloo 2023..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous] Dennis Kelly has coached the A team the last cpl/few years and is a solid coach.
/quote]
That is the funniest comment I've read on here in a while. He may be a solid coach but not fit to coach kids!
/quote]
That is the funniest comment I've read on here in a while. He may be a solid coach but not fit to coach kids!
Okay, you got me on a technicality. Solid coach, maybe too intense for the young kids.
Its great how you don't man up and give your name when you name a coach and say he is not fit to coach kids. You must be a real man to bad mouth a coach/ teacher behind your anonymous post. Most players and parents are disappointed that he decided to move on. We wish him luck with Igloo 2023. My son has played for him the last two years, and loved every second of it. Now hopefully the team can continue to improve under the new coaches. We have had nothing but a positive experience with Express, and anticipate more of the same in the future.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its great how you don't man up and give your name when you name a coach and say he is not fit to coach kids. You must be a real man to bad mouth a coach/ teacher behind your anonymous post. Most players and parents are disappointed that he decided to move on. We wish him luck with Igloo 2023. My son has played for him the last two years, and loved every second of it. Now hopefully the team can continue to improve under the new coaches. We have had nothing but a positive experience with Express, and anticipate more of the same in the future.
Nobody said you shouldn't continue to have positive experiences with the Express. They are a first class organization and will be even better in this age group now with a better coach.
I heard that one of the assistant coaches for 2022 express will be the coach from south shore thunder. His kid is on the team.
Sounds like the 2022 Team roster is set with "invitation only" to pre-tryouts. That's a shame. Won't be wasting my tryout money there.
Who is coaching 2024?
The coaches for Express 2022 will be Mike Chanenchuk and John Lynott.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The coaches for Express 2022 will be Mike Chanenchuk and John Lynott.
Thank you
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The coaches for Express 2022 will be Mike Chanenchuk and John Lynott.
Thank you
You sure about that? I think those two coaches coach the older teams? The 2018 and they coach a 2017 team also, no??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How ironic is it that there is a debate about the merits of a Chaminade education here on the long Island Express thread given the fact that Express has thrown the incoming Chaminade class of 2018 under the bus?
Please explain?
Please explain?
Chaminade freshman class starts a week of full day orientation Monday Aug25 through Friday Aug 29. Any kid playing a sport
has tryouts/practice from 3:30 until 6pm every day that week. Express are having tryouts for the 2018's that Tuesday and Thursday 5pm until 7pm at Mitchel Field. Nice job Express.
You would think Moran would know this. Something doesn't sound right.
haha, you think Moran cares about the express? When has he? Just like St.A head coach. Those guys mail it in.
The St. As coach puts his time in with the 2020 group because he has a kid there. Love when he wears the orange shirt. Look it's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown!
Nice representation of a public school parent. Way to go!
Let's discuss lacrosse not the merits of going to Chaminade, which is simply an all boys catholic school, nothing more, nothing less. It's a fine school but isn't anything to brag about if your son goes there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let's discuss lacrosse not the merits of going to Chaminade, which is simply an all boys catholic school, nothing more, nothing less. It's a fine school but isn't anything to brag about if your son goes there.
good to end the debate on your terms and take a quick shot before you shut out the lights
I would like to know where you heard this because everyone at the workouts was told that coaches are Channy and Lynott. But I guess its better to just throw crap against the wall and see what sticks
Does anyone know anything about the free girls clinic advertised on the team website?
The clinic was last week
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is coaching 2024?
I guess lack of response means still tbd. I assume new blood. Last year disaster with this group.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would like to know where you heard this because everyone at the workouts was told that coaches are Channy and Lynott. But I guess its better to just throw crap against the wall and see what sticks
Explain yourself better. What age? What workouts? MC & JL coaching what age?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would like to know where you heard this because everyone at the workouts was told that coaches are Channy and Lynott. But I guess its better to just throw crap against the wall and see what sticks
Explain yourself better. What age? What workouts? MC & JL coaching what age?
2022. And they like every other club have been to pre tryout workouts, practice, clinics, first looks, etc.
for all express parents on these younger teams, it is a great organization with great coaching, particullary if you are lucky enough to have Mike C.
I ask that you all go and sign the FO petition so that the time and effort and money you put into training your boys now, will not be thrown away because some old guys want to move the game backwards. If they can change this rule, they can change others, maybe next time it is your son's role that gets diminished...Please sign the petition and spread the word
I ask that you all go and sign the FO petition so that the time and effort and money you put into training your boys now, will not be thrown away because some old guys want to move the game backwards. If they can change this rule, they can change others, maybe next time it is your son's role that gets diminished...Please sign the petition and spread the word
Originally Posted by Anonymous
for all express parents on these younger teams, it is a great organization with great coaching, particullary if you are lucky enough to have Mike C.
I ask that you all go and sign the FO petition so that the time and effort and money you put into training your boys now, will not be thrown away because some old guys want to move the game backwards. If they can change this rule, they can change others, maybe next time it is your son's role that gets diminished...Please sign the petition and spread the word
I ask that you all go and sign the FO petition so that the time and effort and money you put into training your boys now, will not be thrown away because some old guys want to move the game backwards. If they can change this rule, they can change others, maybe next time it is your son's role that gets diminished...Please sign the petition and spread the word
Sorry to break the news to ya, the rule makers don't care about your how much money you've put into fogo training. There are much, much bigger forces involved. Your training dollars are not even on the list of considerations, let alone at the bottom of the list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
for all express parents on these younger teams, it is a great organization with great coaching, particullary if you are lucky enough to have Mike C.
I ask that you all go and sign the FO petition so that the time and effort and money you put into training your boys now, will not be thrown away because some old guys want to move the game backwards. If they can change this rule, they can change others, maybe next time it is your son's role that gets diminished...Please sign the petition and spread the word
I ask that you all go and sign the FO petition so that the time and effort and money you put into training your boys now, will not be thrown away because some old guys want to move the game backwards. If they can change this rule, they can change others, maybe next time it is your son's role that gets diminished...Please sign the petition and spread the word
Sorry to break the news to ya, the rule makers don't care about your how much money you've put into fogo training. There are much, much bigger forces involved. Your training dollars are not even on the list of considerations, let alone at the bottom of the list.
Not about my $, about the position. Please enlighten on the big forces involved? or are you just another big mouth with no clue?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
for all express parents on these younger teams, it is a great organization with great coaching, particullary if you are lucky enough to have Mike C.
I ask that you all go and sign the FO petition so that the time and effort and money you put into training your boys now, will not be thrown away because some old guys want to move the game backwards. If they can change this rule, they can change others, maybe next time it is your son's role that gets diminished...Please sign the petition and spread the word
I ask that you all go and sign the FO petition so that the time and effort and money you put into training your boys now, will not be thrown away because some old guys want to move the game backwards. If they can change this rule, they can change others, maybe next time it is your son's role that gets diminished...Please sign the petition and spread the word
Sorry to break the news to ya, the rule makers don't care about your how much money you've put into fogo training. There are much, much bigger forces involved. Your training dollars are not even on the list of considerations, let alone at the bottom of the list.
Not about my $, about the position. Please enlighten on the big forces involved? or are you just another big mouth with no clue?
Not about money? You even said it ..."...time and effort and money..". It's always about money. That flushing sound is your money on fogo training.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
for all express parents on these younger teams, it is a great organization with great coaching, particullary if you are lucky enough to have Mike C.
I ask that you all go and sign the FO petition so that the time and effort and money you put into training your boys now, will not be thrown away because some old guys want to move the game backwards. If they can change this rule, they can change others, maybe next time it is your son's role that gets diminished...Please sign the petition and spread the word
I ask that you all go and sign the FO petition so that the time and effort and money you put into training your boys now, will not be thrown away because some old guys want to move the game backwards. If they can change this rule, they can change others, maybe next time it is your son's role that gets diminished...Please sign the petition and spread the word
Sorry to break the news to ya, the rule makers don't care about your how much money you've put into fogo training. There are much, much bigger forces involved. Your training dollars are not even on the list of considerations, let alone at the bottom of the list.
Not about my $, about the position. Please enlighten on the big forces involved? or are you just another big mouth with no clue?
Not about money? You even said it ..."...time and effort and money..". It's always about money. That flushing sound is your money on fogo training.
For your sake, I hope we never meet. But I will send this to my tech team and see if they can find you. Good luck!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
for all express parents on these younger teams, it is a great organization with great coaching, particullary if you are lucky enough to have Mike C.
I ask that you all go and sign the FO petition so that the time and effort and money you put into training your boys now, will not be thrown away because some old guys want to move the game backwards. If they can change this rule, they can change others, maybe next time it is your son's role that gets diminished...Please sign the petition and spread the word
I ask that you all go and sign the FO petition so that the time and effort and money you put into training your boys now, will not be thrown away because some old guys want to move the game backwards. If they can change this rule, they can change others, maybe next time it is your son's role that gets diminished...Please sign the petition and spread the word
Sorry to break the news to ya, the rule makers don't care about your how much money you've put into fogo training. There are much, much bigger forces involved. Your training dollars are not even on the list of considerations, let alone at the bottom of the list.
Not about my $, about the position. Please enlighten on the big forces involved? or are you just another big mouth with no clue?
Not about money? You even said it ..."...time and effort and money..". It's always about money. That flushing sound is your money on fogo training.
For your sake, I hope we never meet. But I will send this to my tech team and see if they can find you. Good luck!
The face-off is not going away, so what is the purpose of this petition? Why are people so against a rule change that says you can't carry the ball in the back of the stick? By removing that technique you do not diminish the need for a great fogo.
You create more chances of injury and you also eliminate many fast breaks
Enough with the " more chances for injury ". It's a contact sport.
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Enough with the " more chances for injury ". It's a contact sport.
You say that now, but when your son is in the hospital with a career ending injury or concussion, you tone will change. Been there and it's horrible. We have an obligation to make changes that minimize the chance of injury not increase it! This is a real concern that should never be trivialized!
Is it true that the 2022 Express "B" Team is going to fold ?
Seems to be a lot of unhappy campers with this age group for express. They better settle things down before they fall way behind other organizations. Already behind smash united and igloo. Don't want to fall behind legacy outlaws too. Those teams are improving quickly.
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Seems to be a lot of unhappy campers with this age group for express. They better settle things down before they fall way behind other organizations. Already behind smash united and igloo. Don't want to fall behind legacy outlaws too. Those teams are improving quickly.
LEGACY??? REALLY
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems to be a lot of unhappy campers with this age group for express. They better settle things down before they fall way behind other organizations. Already behind smash united and igloo. Don't want to fall behind legacy outlaws too. Those teams are improving quickly.
LEGACY??? REALLY
Seriously....what Legacy? Build one 1st, then put them in the conversation. I guarantee Express will be a lot stronger over the next year or two. Chanenchuk will attract the talent, and his coaching acumen speaks for itself. Legacy & Outlaws aren't anywhere near the top of the list.
Everyone is behind Smash, they are the top dog. Rest of the teams are going to be interesting. We saw a huge improvement in this Express team from 3rd grade to 4th. Think we can expect an even larger improvement for 5th grade. The core is all coming back and there has been a lot of talent at the workouts. Think this team will be vastly improved over last season. With Channy and Lynott's teaching / coaching ability alone this team will be better. Add in a huge upgrade in talent to the bottom half of the roster, and this team will be dangerous.
No one is saying they are, but when express is 4th and those 2 are 5th and 6th on that list, seems to me express is closer to the bottom than the top
Heard about an email from Lax.com about new team "Long Island Express ELITE"? Anyone know about this?
Pre-tryouts, personal invites and looks? I hear Chany is giving some kids some personal attention prior to tryouts. In all fairness, why make parents pay a tryout fee KNOWING you team roster of 24-30 is set for the 2022 team. I agree with the comment about Express being behind smash, united and igloo. I wouldn't put the outlaws behind express. You might be surprised there. Legacy and Jesters, well that's no surprise. Disguested at this organization and I AM an express parent.
The old 365 team from Superstar. Based in Ridgefield Ct. Merged with Express.
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Heard about an email from Lax.com about new team "Long Island Express ELITE"? Anyone know about this?
That's the Express North
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Pre-tryouts, personal invites and looks? I hear Chany is giving some kids some personal attention prior to tryouts. In all fairness, why make parents pay a tryout fee KNOWING you team roster of 24-30 is set for the 2022 team. I agree with the comment about Express being behind smash, united and igloo. I wouldn't put the outlaws behind express. You might be surprised there. Legacy and Jesters, well that's no surprise. Disguested at this organization and I AM an express parent.
What age group are you talking about?
Seems to be a lot of behind the scenes stuff with this Express 2022 group. From the outside it seems like a very fractured group, I heard a bunch of those kids played with South Shore Thunder and others with Daler Nation this year. Sounds like there are teams within the team. Don't think it is helpful for the Express team when there are select groups within the team.
Do players need to attend both tryouts? Monday and Wednesday?
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Do players need to attend both tryouts? Monday and Wednesday?
I would recomend it...
That's not really true. There were 3 kids from sst, 2 kids from daler nation. Hardly cliques. Also about 3 kids from manhattan, 2 from sachem, they didn't form cliques either. There were other towns that had multiple players. The team was fine last year. Everyone got along.
Anything that Channy is involved with is fixed. The team is picked already. He would never take the team over unless he knew what he had going in. He is not a teacher he is a statue. Once it gets bad he is off to another money maker. WAKE UP PEOPLE.
By the way where is his youngest?? Don't see him on Maryland roster ??????
By the way where is his youngest?? Don't see him on Maryland roster ??????
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anything that Channy is involved with is fixed. The team is picked already. He would never take the team over unless he knew what he had going in. He is not a teacher he is a statue. Once it gets bad he is off to another money maker. WAKE UP PEOPLE.
By the way where is his youngest?? Don't see him on Maryland roster ??????
By the way where is his youngest?? Don't see him on Maryland roster ??????
You are a [lacrosse].
There were also Legacy, Northport, Icon, and Jester helmets, i'm sure I missed a few . Good luck to all that tryout next week!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anything that Channy is involved with is fixed. The team is picked already. He would never take the team over unless he knew what he had going in. He is not a teacher he is a statue. Once it gets bad he is off to another money maker. WAKE UP PEOPLE.
By the way where is his youngest?? Don't see him on Maryland roster ??????
By the way where is his youngest?? Don't see him on Maryland roster ??????
You are a [lacrosse].
No....you are an A-Hole. Too bad you or your kid couldn't make the cut. Try Legacy...they have 45 potential D 1 recruits in the 2021, 2022, & 2023 age groups.
BTW..His youngest is play for Stevenson. But I am sure you have never heard of that school.
Someone has sour grapes. Team not picked. Core group maybe. Tryouts can change a lot. He wants the best. He wouldn't pass up an unknown at a tryout if the kid has it. You need to wake up a little bit too. Good luck boys!
Everyone got along just fine on the 2022 Minutemen. Like any team there was a few who were not happy with playing time but that happens everywhere. Nothing like what I witnessed during the Tri Star Clash where a United parent and the head coach almost came to blows on the field after the Championship game. I also know that there was a lot of talent at the workouts. The 2022 team is only going to get better. Think this year it is possible for the team to surpass Igloo and United.
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Everyone got along just fine on the 2022 Minutemen. Like any team there was a few who were not happy with playing time but that happens everywhere. Nothing like what I witnessed during the Tri Star Clash where a United parent and the head coach almost came to blows on the field after the Championship game. I also know that there was a lot of talent at the workouts. The 2022 team is only going to get better. Think this year it is possible for the team to surpass Igloo and United.
Express lost to igloo, smash and united every time they have met for 2 straight years. Express also lost to jesters every time they met this year. Express is a B team. The best kids will try out for the best teams and igloo, smash and united will attract the best talent. I don't quite see the logic that express will get better and igloo and united will stay the same.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone got along just fine on the 2022 Minutemen. Like any team there was a few who were not happy with playing time but that happens everywhere. Nothing like what I witnessed during the Tri Star Clash where a United parent and the head coach almost came to blows on the field after the Championship game. I also know that there was a lot of talent at the workouts. The 2022 team is only going to get better. Think this year it is possible for the team to surpass Igloo and United.
Express lost to igloo, smash and united every time they have met for 2 straight years. Express also lost to jesters every time they met this year. Express is a B team. The best kids will try out for the best teams and igloo, smash and united will attract the best talent. I don't quite see the logic that express will get better and igloo and united will stay the same.
I really wish people would try to be accurate.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone got along just fine on the 2022 Minutemen. Like any team there was a few who were not happy with playing time but that happens everywhere. Nothing like what I witnessed during the Tri Star Clash where a United parent and the head coach almost came to blows on the field after the Championship game. I also know that there was a lot of talent at the workouts. The 2022 team is only going to get better. Think this year it is possible for the team to surpass Igloo and United.
You don't get the logic, at 2022 there are players you havnt even heard of yet; some that havnt played travel. 6th 7th grade is when you can start saying those things. not rising 5th.
Express lost to igloo, smash and united every time they have met for 2 straight years. Express also lost to jesters every time they met this year. Express is a B team. The best kids will try out for the best teams and igloo, smash and united will attract the best talent. I don't quite see the logic that express will get better and igloo and united will stay the same.
Reading through the thread it sounds like things fell apart at some point. Coach gone, secret work outs, parents on here expressing unhappiness......
Was on the minutemen this year. We played smash 1 time in October and lost by 6 goals. Played united in 2 straight summer tournaments and lost by 1 goal both times. Lost to igloo by 3 goals. NEVER lost to jesters. Beat them once by 3 goals and then played the B team and won by 15 goals. Not returning to express this year but the nonsense that is being spoken is ridiculous! Minutemen were in every game this year and never blown out. Only time they played smash was their 1st game ever together in October! This whole age group is evenly matched. Even smash is being caught up to. Other programs are rising also. The talent is very diluted which makes for more competitive games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was on the minutemen this year. We played smash 1 time in October and lost by 6 goals. Played united in 2 straight summer tournaments and lost by 1 goal both times. Lost to igloo by 3 goals. NEVER lost to jesters. Beat them once by 3 goals and then played the B team and won by 15 goals. Not returning to express this year but the nonsense that is being spoken is ridiculous! Minutemen were in every game this year and never blown out. Only time they played smash was their 1st game ever together in October! This whole age group is evenly matched. Even smash is being caught up to. Other programs are rising also. The talent is very diluted which makes for more competitive games.
Exactly! Now enter the best coaching staff around and everyone with be chasing the Express at 2022.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was on the minutemen this year. We played smash 1 time in October and lost by 6 goals. Played united in 2 straight summer tournaments and lost by 1 goal both times. Lost to igloo by 3 goals. NEVER lost to jesters. Beat them once by 3 goals and then played the B team and won by 15 goals. Not returning to express this year but the nonsense that is being spoken is ridiculous! Minutemen were in every game this year and never blown out. Only time they played smash was their 1st game ever together in October! This whole age group is evenly matched. Even smash is being caught up to. Other programs are rising also. The talent is very diluted which makes for more competitive games.
Exactly! Now enter the best coaching staff around and everyone with be chasing the Express at 2022.
Best coaching staff around?? How do you quantify that? Because they coached the 2018 33 player team that could not compete with extreme on a regular basis ?
Chasing or running?
Things were going good til you went there. Best staff around? How did their other teams that they coached do for express? I'll answer for you....not good!! MC should stick to running the business. He coaches too many teams within that organization. Doesn't spend enough time with these teams.
MC good business man . Terrible Coach, loj what he did to the 2016 Barracudas. No wins against the Crabs. Should stick to running the business
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Things were going good til you went there. Best staff around? How did their other teams that they coached do for express? I'll answer for you....not good!! MC should stick to running the business. He coaches too many teams within that organization. Doesn't spend enough time with these teams.
MC will not coach this team, this is how it plays out...50 kids show up for tryouts, they take all 50 between the A and B teams. They find coaches in the fall/winter, they add 3-5 players during this time such that each team is 28 players and MC will not be coaching. Btw, you are better off, MC is a good coach but not good with little kids. The A team will be ok, maybe 5-6 best on LI and the B team will strictly be an express money maker. That all said if your kid is good, and you ride out the BS in 2-3 years the team will be good, they will cut and fill with better players until they can compete.
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Things were going good til you went there. Best staff around? How did their other teams that they coached do for express? I'll answer for you....not good!! MC should stick to running the business. He coaches too many teams within that organization. Doesn't spend enough time with these teams.
Extreme beat them by a goal and is irrelevant. The best coach doesn't always win or have the best team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was on the minutemen this year. We played smash 1 time in October and lost by 6 goals. Played united in 2 straight summer tournaments and lost by 1 goal both times. Lost to igloo by 3 goals. NEVER lost to jesters. Beat them once by 3 goals and then played the B team and won by 15 goals. Not returning to express this year but the nonsense that is being spoken is ridiculous! Minutemen were in every game this year and never blown out. Only time they played smash was their 1st game ever together in October! This whole age group is evenly matched. Even smash is being caught up to. Other programs are rising also. The talent is very diluted which makes for more competitive games.
My son played on one of the mentioned teams, funny thing is we got up on express by 7 goals and sat our starters, moved defense to offense for fun etc. and express did get a few goals on us to make the score look within 5 but, I can assure you if we' didn't show mercy we would have won by 15...united, smash, 32, team LI, igloo, all beat express by 10+ goals if they don't take the foot of the gas.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was on the minutemen this year. We played smash 1 time in October and lost by 6 goals. Played united in 2 straight summer tournaments and lost by 1 goal both times. Lost to igloo by 3 goals. NEVER lost to jesters. Beat them once by 3 goals and then played the B team and won by 15 goals. Not returning to express this year but the nonsense that is being spoken is ridiculous! Minutemen were in every game this year and never blown out. Only time they played smash was their 1st game ever together in October! This whole age group is evenly matched. Even smash is being caught up to. Other programs are rising also. The talent is very diluted which makes for more competitive games.
My son played on one of the mentioned teams, funny thing is we got up on express by 7 goals and sat our starters, moved defense to offense for fun etc. and express did get a few goals on us to make the score look within 5 but, I can assure you if we' didn't show mercy we would have won by 15...united, smash, 32, team LI, igloo, all beat express by 10+ goals if they don't take the foot of the gas.
I don't know what is worse, the parents of Express pay all that money to lose by 10+ or the fact you feel the need to brag about it.
Express will never compete in the younger grades. The talent has not matured enough and the other teams have most of it right now. Will be fun to see in 4 years where everyone stands.
Express minutemen were NEVER blown out by any of those teams. Maybe the B team(Terps) were. You are mistaken. Sorry.
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Express minutemen were NEVER blown out by any of those teams. Maybe the B team(Terps) were. You are mistaken. Sorry.
Terps lost to everyone!
Terps actually won more games than lost in their tournaments. Of course they couldn't compete on A level as a B team. Great kids, coaches and parents.
Are the 2019 Wolves looking for many players. I know the team has had turnover in the last 2 years.
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Express will never compete in the younger grades. The talent has not matured enough and the other teams have most of it right now. Will be fun to see in 4 years where everyone stands.
Guest you never heard of the Badgers. And got a look at some really good talent at the pre-tryout.
By the time the kids get to high school express always winds up with top teams. Look at 2015, 2016 and 2017 you guys are talking about 5th graders.
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By the time the kids get to high school express always winds up with top teams. Look at 2015, 2016 and 2017 you guys are talking about 5th graders.
You mean, used to!
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By the time the kids get to high school express always winds up with top teams. Look at 2015, 2016 and 2017 you guys are talking about 5th graders.
Different kids though!! Lol.
Wake up! Replace all the kids who spent money for years and replace with flyers and friars!
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Express minutemen were NEVER blown out by any of those teams. Maybe the B team(Terps) were. You are mistaken. Sorry.
You didn't notice the opposing teams not taking it to cage in second half, and opposing coaches playing kids at all different positions? There is a reason express went down by7+ goals and then made a comeback. No A team viewed express as real competition. Opposing coaches didn't run up the score on express out of courtesy to 9 year old boys. But as long as it's us men talking, united, smash and igloo could have beat express by 15 goals.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the time the kids get to high school express always winds up with top teams. Look at 2015, 2016 and 2017 you guys are talking about 5th graders.
You mean, used to!
When you can name one other program that has had the same success as the express at high school age then you will be on to something. Until then you will just be jealous
This guy is dilusional!!! You and your son must have great conversations at the dinner table. Now go speak with locascio or marksbury or whoever the igloo coaches were. Go ask barone about last years minutemen. I don't think they ever even gave up more than 8 goals ALL summer. But thank you mister big shot for calling off the dogs. I guess those 2 games against united they lost by 1 goal were just by genorosity, thanks
I really believe you are talking about the wrong express team. And I'm a united parent!! Those minutemen were good. Always a close tough game. Basically played us even all summer games could have gone either way. This person sounds jealous, maybe his kid was cut by them
How do you know what every coach did or didn't do. You sound like one those obnoxious sideliners living vicariously through every win. Get a life, man. These kids are just beginning. Your stud will get caught up to.
Doesn't make difference. That was last summer. Now Channy is in charge and that team will be as good as any at the age.
Channy is not the savior, his kids will be coaching that team sooner rather than later. And please don't preach about how he was an all American in college. The last coach was too.
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Channy is not the savior, his kids will be coaching that team sooner rather than later. And please don't preach about how he was an all American in college. The last coach was too.
Channy has a track record. He built 2018 A from scratch
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the time the kids get to high school express always winds up with top teams. Look at 2015, 2016 and 2017 you guys are talking about 5th graders.
You mean, used to!
When you can name one other program that has had the same success as the express at high school age then you will be on to something. Until then you will just be jealous
91, they will have much more impressive commits for the 2018 grad year. That trend will continue with the next several years at least. Express is a dinosaur about to go extinct. The only team Express has to brag about is the Turtles, which is not really an Express team, its invite only so can't compare.
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Doesn't make difference. That was last summer. Now Channy is in charge and that team will be as good as any at the age.
Silly, channy will rally 50 kids to make two teams and then find mediocre coaches,vthe A team will compete with jetsters, fl$ etc. but won't come close to 91. The B team will be a joke like last year, just a money maker for express.
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Terps actually won more games than lost in their tournaments. Of course they couldn't compete on A level as a B team. Great kids, coaches and parents.
Which year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terps actually won more games than lost in their tournaments. Of course they couldn't compete on A level as a B team. Great kids, coaches and parents.
Which year?
2022
I heard similar about B team last year. 2024 had dad coaches and hardly practiced.
True. I had friends with children on the 2024 team you are referring to. They were so unhappy. They said the coach could not be bothered, never practiced, and set the boys up for failure. Sad thing is that those boys have great potential but the coach didn't show an ounce of interest in that team. Very unfair!
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True. I had friends with children on the 2024 team you are referring to. They were so unhappy. They said the coach could not be bothered, never practiced, and set the boys up for failure. Sad thing is that those boys have great potential but the coach didn't show an ounce of interest in that team. Very unfair!
Sounds like former head coach for 2022 A-team!
All you Express parents better wake up!!! If you haven't noticed that your coaches and kids are going to play elsewhere! I heard both Minutemen coaches bailed out and took the best kids with them. Now you are going to pay top dollar for a mediocre team! We all know at grade 2-5 level it all coaching
Any input on the 2021 team?
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All you Express parents better wake up!!! If you haven't noticed that your coaches and kids are going to play elsewhere! I heard both Minutemen coaches bailed out and took the best kids with them. Now you are going to pay top dollar for a mediocre team! We all know at grade 2-5 level it all coaching
Bailed out?! More like terminated! Get your facts straight. And they did not take the best kids. Lmao.
Any idea where the Minutemen coaches went?
any word on the 2021 Express Wolverines team , I am hearing many kids leaving because the one Massapequa Steroid coach. I am not sure why express directors would not remove this coach and try to build the team, the WI coach is a great guy and just needs another coach on sideline... Any thoughts as to why
I would like to know too. The kids were not that great but the coaches were !!!
Who is the Massapequa coach that you are suggesting should be removed ?
Will Express rebound next season?
What is the current situation for the 2021 Teams?
Are there going to be (2) teams?
Listen my kid is not good enough to play for these better clubs but he is getting better every day.
We rely on the less talented programs to be slightly less competitive but have your acts together. For the money you guys charge last year was a partial disaster (Express) that had a few "Shining Moments".
While all you people pick and prod about teams and coaches and players these "kids" are playing free scrimmages (With (2) coaches (NOT DADS) and a ref, against their tryout competition for FREE on Igloo's newly lines fields.
How do you top that?
Wake up people....The days of being "Somewhat Organized" are over...You will find yourself without a program in a few years.....
What is the current situation for the 2021 Teams?
Are there going to be (2) teams?
Listen my kid is not good enough to play for these better clubs but he is getting better every day.
We rely on the less talented programs to be slightly less competitive but have your acts together. For the money you guys charge last year was a partial disaster (Express) that had a few "Shining Moments".
While all you people pick and prod about teams and coaches and players these "kids" are playing free scrimmages (With (2) coaches (NOT DADS) and a ref, against their tryout competition for FREE on Igloo's newly lines fields.
How do you top that?
Wake up people....The days of being "Somewhat Organized" are over...You will find yourself without a program in a few years.....
The 2023 coaches are amazing.
Terminated??? You are delusional. They were the best coaches and make mediocre players better! My kid plays for Igloo and I would take either of those coaches!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Express rebound next season?
What is the current situation for the 2021 Teams?
Are there going to be (2) teams?
Listen my kid is not good enough to play for these better clubs but he is getting better every day.
We rely on the less talented programs to be slightly less competitive but have your acts together. For the money you guys charge last year was a partial disaster (Express) that had a few "Shining Moments".
While all you people pick and prod about teams and coaches and players these "kids" are playing free scrimmages (With (2) coaches (NOT DADS) and a ref, against their tryout competition for FREE on Igloo's newly lines fields.
How do you top that?
Wake up people....The days of being "Somewhat Organized" are over...You will find yourself without a program in a few years.....
What is the current situation for the 2021 Teams?
Are there going to be (2) teams?
Listen my kid is not good enough to play for these better clubs but he is getting better every day.
We rely on the less talented programs to be slightly less competitive but have your acts together. For the money you guys charge last year was a partial disaster (Express) that had a few "Shining Moments".
While all you people pick and prod about teams and coaches and players these "kids" are playing free scrimmages (With (2) coaches (NOT DADS) and a ref, against their tryout competition for FREE on Igloo's newly lines fields.
How do you top that?
Wake up people....The days of being "Somewhat Organized" are over...You will find yourself without a program in a few years.....
I'm sorry but what does free scrimmages with Igloo have to do with Express? Express had two competitive teams in the 2021 age group this past season where as Igloo had one team. Yes they were great but they have 3 spots tops on that team so you'll pay 3500 for their "b" team with a no name coach. Tel me again how this will run them out of business?
A few wolve parents were talking about bailing and switching over to Igloo and some over to play on the Cudas , As long as the WACKO load mouth parents from the Barracudas don't come back this season then that team will be fine all around .
Terminated?? Come on now, we all know the 1 disgruntled father who orchestrated this whole move. Goes to show if you complain enough eventually they'll listen. The coach was the bigger man and resigned. Let's leave it at that before more of the REAL facts come out.
The Coach that stands 10 yards on the field and yells at the referee all day long and has no idea how to coach Lacrosse , GO BACK TO COACHING COPIAGUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Express rebound next season?
What is the current situation for the 2021 Teams?
Are there going to be (2) teams?
Listen my kid is not good enough to play for these better clubs but he is getting better every day.
We rely on the less talented programs to be slightly less competitive but have your acts together. For the money you guys charge last year was a partial disaster (Express) that had a few "Shining Moments".
While all you people pick and prod about teams and coaches and players these "kids" are playing free scrimmages (With (2) coaches (NOT DADS) and a ref, against their tryout competition for FREE on Igloo's newly lines fields.
How do you top that?
Wake up people....The days of being "Somewhat Organized" are over...You will find yourself without a program in a few years.....
What is the current situation for the 2021 Teams?
Are there going to be (2) teams?
Listen my kid is not good enough to play for these better clubs but he is getting better every day.
We rely on the less talented programs to be slightly less competitive but have your acts together. For the money you guys charge last year was a partial disaster (Express) that had a few "Shining Moments".
While all you people pick and prod about teams and coaches and players these "kids" are playing free scrimmages (With (2) coaches (NOT DADS) and a ref, against their tryout competition for FREE on Igloo's newly lines fields.
How do you top that?
Wake up people....The days of being "Somewhat Organized" are over...You will find yourself without a program in a few years.....
WOW - Igloo has newly lined fields? I am sick and tired of my kid playing on somewhat organized old lined fields - some of the old lined fields are so confusing you don't know what direction to run in but now with "Newly Lined Fields" those days are gone forever, anybody that thinks AA is not an innovator is crazy, whats next? newly strung cages? New balls?
Express is not for everyone. But for talented kids there is no better place to be. Look at all the top programs in the country. They all start to play at a top level after U13 year. Express will compete every year. 91, outlaws ect. have not had any success yet. Do not underestimate Mike C he will find winning teams every year
Newly lined fields? Wow
LMAO !!!
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Express is not for everyone. But for talented kids there is no better place to be. Look at all the top programs in the country. They all start to play at a top level after U13 year. Express will compete every year. 91, outlaws ect. have not had any success yet. Do not underestimate Mike C he will find winning teams every year
You guys are good. I think the point he was making (I could be wrong)
- Put a product out there that your customers (Parents) are happy with. That is what these coaches are selling....lacrosse...That's it.
Kids PLAY well when they FEEL well. Kids FEEL well when they don't see coaches and parents arguing....When they get to play on really nice fields....and have really nice equipment. When they FEEL better they PLAY better. Igloo is not the only game in town but personally people should take a page, shut their trap, and bring the game back to where is belongs...to the kids and PLAYING. If you can win too well then that is just icing now isn't it.
You clowns are the reason why LI Lax has become such a circus.
- Put a product out there that your customers (Parents) are happy with. That is what these coaches are selling....lacrosse...That's it.
Kids PLAY well when they FEEL well. Kids FEEL well when they don't see coaches and parents arguing....When they get to play on really nice fields....and have really nice equipment. When they FEEL better they PLAY better. Igloo is not the only game in town but personally people should take a page, shut their trap, and bring the game back to where is belongs...to the kids and PLAYING. If you can win too well then that is just icing now isn't it.
You clowns are the reason why LI Lax has become such a circus.
The Barracuda coaches should take our team over , they seem to have done a decent job this year with a first year team love to see what they would do with a core team . then the wolve coaches should take over the cudas so they can deal with the horrible trash that gave that team a bad name .
Reverse psychology
Reverse psychology
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The Coach that stands 10 yards on the field and yells at the referee all day long and has no idea how to coach Lacrosse , GO BACK TO COACHING COPIAGUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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A few wolve parents were talking about bailing and switching over to Igloo and some over to play on the Cudas , As long as the WACKO load mouth parents from the Barracudas don't come back this season then that team will be fine all around .
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
Good luck to all the boys trying out tonight!
Really which team that MC coaches is at the top? 2017....terrible. Any other team? No. Matter of fact if you look at express's early commits with 2017 they are mostly turtles. MC had nothing to do with them. Keep worshipping him. The program is on it's way down. 91 has overtaken them. It won't be long before others do also. Legacy has great connections now. Outlaws always does good with recruiting. Express needs to get with the times. In 5 yrs they may be irrelevant. Think about it
Cudas vs Wolves....1 more game before tryouts.....Do the coaches have the stomachs to put it down to 1 last game to determine the better team this year.
[lacrosse] No they won't!!
[lacrosse] No they won't!!
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any word on the 2021 Express Wolverines team , I am hearing many kids leaving because the one Massapequa Steroid coach. I am not sure why express directors would not remove this coach and try to build the team, the WI coach is a great guy and just needs another coach on sideline... Any thoughts as to why
You are bad mouthing one of the few good guys, and great coaches out there. The fact that your are doing it like a coward speaks volumes to the type of person you are. Actually feel bad for your kid and any parent on the team that has to interact with you. I would bet this isn't your first club, and certainly won't be your last. One day (probably soon) your kid will get cut because of you. If this post is any indication of your behavior and character. Clubs don't want people like you.
Wanted to send my son tonight. Wish they provided any info in advance. Who is coaching 2025/2024 teams ?
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Cudas vs Wolves....1 more game before tryouts.....Do the coaches have the stomachs to put it down to 1 last game to determine the better team this year.
[lacrosse] No they won't!!
[lacrosse] No they won't!!
Why would they?? To make you feel better? What's point? So you can be the best team from last year?? How about take the best 22 kids and put on one team. Then put the next 22 kids on the next team?
Only person who would request something like that is someone who had a kid on the B team.
Move on!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy is not the savior, his kids will be coaching that team sooner rather than later. And please don't preach about how he was an all American in college. The last coach was too.
Channy has a track record. He built 2018 A from scratch
Stealing one player at a time until he had 34 on the team and now he is moving on from them when they start HS??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy is not the savior, his kids will be coaching that team sooner rather than later. And please don't preach about how he was an all American in college. The last coach was too.
Channy has a track record. He built 2018 A from scratch
Stealing one player at a time until he had 34 on the team and now he is moving on from them when they start HS??
Since you put it as a question, the answer is no.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy is not the savior, his kids will be coaching that team sooner rather than later. And please don't preach about how he was an all American in college. The last coach was too.
Channy has a track record. He built 2018 A from scratch
Stealing one player at a time until he had 34 on the team and now he is moving on from them when they start HS??
Since you put it as a question, the answer is no.
No to what? Is something inaccurate?
That is question too
Just got back from 2022 tryouts. About 60 kids. Was run ok. Looks to me like the team all ready picked. Another $$ grab by channy.
Track record????
Ask the parents of the committed team that he put together this summer about Channys "track record". He took $600 bucks per kid and put them in one lousy tournament in the B division. He refused to give anyone their money back.
This is who u are dealing with at the LI Express. He's a conniving liar.
Ask the parents of the committed team that he put together this summer about Channys "track record". He took $600 bucks per kid and put them in one lousy tournament in the B division. He refused to give anyone their money back.
This is who u are dealing with at the LI Express. He's a conniving liar.
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Just got back from 2022 tryouts. About 60 kids. Was run ok. Looks to me like the team all ready picked. Another $$ grab by channy.
Been there done that...you get an email that your son made the team and you need to pay in 7 days or you are out. He will claim they haven't chosen the A and B team yet. They will all practice 2-3 times, then they take the top 24 for thr A team and they next 30+ for the B team. Both teams will get new coaches, channy won't coach himself. If you are on A, you will have a decent year depending on your coach, if you Re on B it's a joke but you can't get your money back. Good news is they will give you 30% off on your helmet.
Just got back myself and the tryout didn't appear that way to me at all. If that's the way you feel, stay home on Wed.
Best of luck to your son!
Best of luck to your son!
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Really which team that MC coaches is at the top? 2017....terrible. Any other team? No. Matter of fact if you look at express's early commits with 2017 they are mostly turtles. MC had nothing to do with them. Keep worshipping him. The program is on it's way down. 91 has overtaken them. It won't be long before others do also. Legacy has great connections now. Outlaws always does good with recruiting. Express needs to get with the times. In 5 yrs they may be irrelevant. Think about it
its that same old fashion St.Anthony's & Chaminade way of thinking like they are stiLL the best club program and the best H.S. programs, they are stuck in a time warp from 5-6 years ago. Out of touch. I'm glad we went to our public, almost went to SA.
Mike C. Is a brilliant coach that sees everything on the field and cares about his players and helps them whenever and however he can. He understands the lacrosse landscape better than almost anyone, is honest and straight forward with parents and kids, and you would be fortunate to have him coach and therefore help your son as he has mine. I would spend less time trying to not knock him, and spend more time trying to get your son to play for him.
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Really which team that MC coaches is at the top? 2017....terrible. Any other team? No. Matter of fact if you look at express's early commits with 2017 they are mostly turtles. MC had nothing to do with them. Keep worshipping him. The program is on it's way down. 91 has overtaken them. It won't be long before others do also. Legacy has great connections now. Outlaws always does good with recruiting. Express needs to get with the times. In 5 yrs they may be irrelevant. Think about it
On the express site is a long list of 12-14 committed players under 2017. Channy had nothing to do any of those players committing except MAYBE two of the older held back kids.
Just got back from tryouts
about 80-100 kids
Talent was OK
Tryout format was average
Son played well so glad he has a shot to make the A squad.
See you Wed!!!
about 80-100 kids
Talent was OK
Tryout format was average
Son played well so glad he has a shot to make the A squad.
See you Wed!!!
Did those kids play for Express?
How many$75 dollar clinics did you do.
The last thing mike c is is honest. He's never straight forward either. He has burned way more kids than he has ever helped. I'm glad you like him but let's be honest....he is a dinosaur. Landscape has changed. 91 is the new king. Legacy will topple express soon. You can only screw people so long. Plain and simple truth is he's not a nice guy unless you pay him enough to be.
Turtles
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really which team that MC coaches is at the top? 2017....terrible. Any other team? No. Matter of fact if you look at express's early commits with 2017 they are mostly turtles. MC had nothing to do with them. Keep worshipping him. The program is on it's way down. 91 has overtaken them. It won't be long before others do also. Legacy has great connections now. Outlaws always does good with recruiting. Express needs to get with the times. In 5 yrs they may be irrelevant. Think about it
its that same old fashion St.Anthony's & Chaminade way of thinking like they are stiLL the best club program and the best H.S. programs, they are stuck in a time warp from 5-6 years ago. Out of touch. I'm glad we went to our public, almost went to SA.
If you planned on going to St A or Cham ONLY for sports, then your son does not belong there anyway, Nd keeping him in the public school arena is best for him anyway.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really which team that MC coaches is at the top? 2017....terrible. Any other team? No. Matter of fact if you look at express's early commits with 2017 they are mostly turtles. MC had nothing to do with them. Keep worshipping him. The program is on it's way down. 91 has overtaken them. It won't be long before others do also. Legacy has great connections now. Outlaws always does good with recruiting. Express needs to get with the times. In 5 yrs they may be irrelevant. Think about it
On the express site is a long list of 12-14 committed players under 2017. Channy had nothing to do any of those players committing except MAYBE two of the older held back kids.
2018 terp team is one of the best in the country. they have beat everyone (and also have lost) but they are consistently at the top of that age group and much of it is due to Mike C.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy is not the savior, his kids will be coaching that team sooner rather than later. And please don't preach about how he was an all American in college. The last coach was too.
Channy has a track record. He built 2018 A from scratch
Stealing one player at a time until he had 34 on the team and now he is moving on from them when they start HS??
Since you put it as a question, the answer is no.
No to what? Is something inaccurate?
That is question too
How do you steal a player? The 34 is inaccurate. It was more like 37
he made them all better players. Last I heard he is still coaching 2018.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mike C. Is a brilliant coach that sees everything on the field and cares about his players and helps them whenever and however he can. He understands the lacrosse landscape better than almost anyone, is honest and straight forward with parents and kids, and you would be fortunate to have him coach and therefore help your son as he has mine. I would spend less time trying to not knock him, and spend more time trying to get your son to play for him.
I totally agree. He is brilliant in putting together teams that win. You may not like the way he does it (aka bringing in better kids than your son) but it works. My son loved being coached by him and learned a ton. Every college coach in the country calls him! He is honest with them as he is honest with you. Ask him what he thinks about your sons playing ability. But be ready for his answer because he will tell you like it is.
Legacy will topple express soon? Funny for such a bold statement there certainly was a huge turnout of legacy players last night at tryouts , many of legacys and even 91 top players are making the decision to tryout and possibly switch over , from the corporate conglomerate hype that seems to be marketed so well to the point they make you feel that if you don't come with us your gonna miss the boat in the lax world . Certainly looks like everyone is in line to get burned I guess , channy tells you like it is , many pompous parents can't handle that .be realistic with your kids ability or get away from the game
uote=Anonymous]The last thing mike c is is honest. He's never straight forward either. He has burned way more kids than he has ever helped. I'm glad you like him but let's be honest....he is a dinosaur. Landscape has changed. 91 is the new king. Legacy will topple express soon. You can only screw people so long. Plain and simple truth is he's not a nice guy unless you pay him enough to be. [/quote]
uote=Anonymous]The last thing mike c is is honest. He's never straight forward either. He has burned way more kids than he has ever helped. I'm glad you like him but let's be honest....he is a dinosaur. Landscape has changed. 91 is the new king. Legacy will topple express soon. You can only screw people so long. Plain and simple truth is he's not a nice guy unless you pay him enough to be. [/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mike C. Is a brilliant coach that sees everything on the field and cares about his players and helps them whenever and however he can. He understands the lacrosse landscape better than almost anyone, is honest and straight forward with parents and kids, and you would be fortunate to have him coach and therefore help your son as he has mine. I would spend less time trying to not knock him, and spend more time trying to get your son to play for him.
I totally agree. He is brilliant in putting together teams that win. You may not like the way he does it (aka bringing in better kids than your son) but it works. My son loved being coached by him and learned a ton. Every college coach in the country calls him! He is honest with them as he is honest with you. Ask him what he thinks about your sons playing ability. But be ready for his answer because he will tell you like it is.
A few of his Barccuddas left for Sweetlax, a Rochester team. Why would that happen unless MC did something to [lacrosse] people off.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mike C. Is a brilliant coach that sees everything on the field and cares about his players and helps them whenever and however he can. He understands the lacrosse landscape better than almost anyone, is honest and straight forward with parents and kids, and you would be fortunate to have him coach and therefore help your son as he has mine. I would spend less time trying to not knock him, and spend more time trying to get your son to play for him.
I totally agree. He is brilliant in putting together teams that win. You may not like the way he does it (aka bringing in better kids than your son) but it works. My son loved being coached by him and learned a ton. Every college coach in the country calls him! He is honest with them as he is honest with you. Ask him what he thinks about your sons playing ability. But be ready for his answer because he will tell you like it is.
In Chaney's court on this. My nephew is off to the ivy league. If not for Chaney, he might be looking at lower lever D1 programs. Not to say that is a bad thing, plenty of good schools out there. But, Chaney stepped up and got my nephew in front of a ton of college coaches. His reputation as a coach and talent evaluator is what keeps the college coaches calling Chaney's number. You might not like his demeanor or delivery, but you can't argue the success of Express.
Express still places more kids in top rated schools than any other program in the country.
If you want your son to have a shot at getting into Hofstra, St. John's, Dowling...okay then, send him to 91. As far as Legacy goes, they need to build the program before it is considered a top rated club. Develop a few D1, D2 & D3 AA's, win some tournaments, etc, then make that argument.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy is not the savior, his kids will be coaching that team sooner rather than later. And please don't preach about how he was an all American in college. The last coach was too.
Channy has a track record. He built 2018 A from scratch
Stealing one player at a time until he had 34 on the team and now he is moving on from them when they start HS??
Since you put it as a question, the answer is no.
No to what? Is something inaccurate?
That is question too
How do you steal a player? The 34 is inaccurate. It was more like 37
he made them all better players. Last I heard he is still coaching 2018. How many teams can he coach? How is the 10th long pole or attackman getting a good look at a showcase? They may have gotten better, but many would be better off playing on a different team where they actually get more game time at tournaments and showcases. College coaches do not care who wins or loses. They are watching the kids ON the field!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mike C. Is a brilliant coach that sees everything on the field and cares about his players and helps them whenever and however he can. He understands the lacrosse landscape better than almost anyone, is honest and straight forward with parents and kids, and you would be fortunate to have him coach and therefore help your son as he has mine. I would spend less time trying to not knock him, and spend more time trying to get your son to play for him.
I totally agree. He is brilliant in putting together teams that win. You may not like the way he does it (aka bringing in better kids than your son) but it works. My son loved being coached by him and learned a ton. Every college coach in the country calls him! He is honest with them as he is honest with you. Ask him what he thinks about your sons playing ability. But be ready for his answer because he will tell you like it is.
In Chaney's court on this. My nephew is off to the ivy league. If not for Chaney, he might be looking at lower lever D1 programs. Not to say that is a bad thing, plenty of good schools out there. But, Chaney stepped up and got my nephew in front of a ton of college coaches. His reputation as a coach and talent evaluator is what keeps the college coaches calling Chaney's number. You might not like his demeanor or delivery, but you can't argue the success of Express.
Express still places more kids in top rated schools than any other program in the country.
If you want your son to have a shot at getting into Hofstra, St. John's, Dowling...okay then, send him to 91. As far as Legacy goes, they need to build the program before it is considered a top rated club. Develop a few D1, D2 & D3 AA's, win some tournaments, etc, then make that argument.
Problem is the talent is lacking on Express side. Players simply can't compete with 91. The only good recent commits are from turtles, which really have nothing to do with express. The last good team express had was the cudas, who scattered like roaches once they committed
Did your son attend one of the Catholic high schools?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mike C. Is a brilliant coach that sees everything on the field and cares about his players and helps them whenever and however he can. He understands the lacrosse landscape better than almost anyone, is honest and straight forward with parents and kids, and you would be fortunate to have him coach and therefore help your son as he has mine. I would spend less time trying to not knock him, and spend more time trying to get your son to play for him.
I totally agree. He is brilliant in putting together teams that win. You may not like the way he does it (aka bringing in better kids than your son) but it works. My son loved being coached by him and learned a ton. Every college coach in the country calls him! He is honest with them as he is honest with you. Ask him what he thinks about your sons playing ability. But be ready for his answer because he will tell you like it is.
In Chaney's court on this. My nephew is off to the ivy league. If not for Chaney, he might be looking at lower lever D1 programs. Not to say that is a bad thing, plenty of good schools out there. But, Chaney stepped up and got my nephew in front of a ton of college coaches. His reputation as a coach and talent evaluator is what keeps the college coaches calling Chaney's number. You might not like his demeanor or delivery, but you can't argue the success of Express.
Express still places more kids in top rated schools than any other program in the country.
If you want your son to have a shot at getting into Hofstra, St. John's, Dowling...okay then, send him to 91. As far as Legacy goes, they need to build the program before it is considered a top rated club. Develop a few D1, D2 & D3 AA's, win some tournaments, etc, then make that argument.
Problem is the talent is lacking on Express side. Players simply can't compete with 91. The only good recent commits are from turtles, which really have nothing to do with express. The last good team express had was the cudas, who scattered like roaches once they committed
FYI...Turtles used to be an Express team just like everyone else. Turtles are just like 91 Extreme. and another FYI...Most kids that are "committed" scatter to other programs or just play school ball....
Been in turtles from beginning. They were NOT and express team until MC came asking them to be part of express. They formed by invitation only. Had nothing to do with express. In fact it was formed because they all hated what express stood for.
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How many teams can he coach? How is the 10th long pole or attackman getting a good look at a showcase? They may have gotten better, but many would be better off playing on a different team where they actually get more game time at tournaments and showcases. College coaches do not care who wins or loses. They are watching the kids ON the field!
The 10th Pole on all of Long Island is not getting recruited in 10th grade, the 9th and 10th grade recruits are for the big time D1 programs and if you cannot be a top 2-3 player on a top team (Extreme, Terps) then you are not signing as a 10th grader. According to LAXPOWER their are 6 Long Island Defenseman verbally committed to college in the 2016 class, those are rising juniors so I would say that the number 10 pole on any team doesn't need to worry about 10th grade recruiting.
But playing for great coaches and against the best players you can in practice will make you a better player for showcases as a rising 11th or 12th grader. There is probably a reason the kid is the 10th pole on the team, do you really think the 10th pole on Terps can go to the Jesters, fl$ or outlaws and be a top three player and get college looks as a rising 10th grader?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams can he coach? How is the 10th long pole or attackman getting a good look at a showcase? They may have gotten better, but many would be better off playing on a different team where they actually get more game time at tournaments and showcases. College coaches do not care who wins or loses. They are watching the kids ON the field!
The 10th Pole on all of Long Island is not getting recruited in 10th grade, the 9th and 10th grade recruits are for the big time D1 programs and if you cannot be a top 2-3 player on a top team (Extreme, Terps) then you are not signing as a 10th grader. According to LAXPOWER their are 6 Long Island Defenseman verbally committed to college in the 2016 class, those are rising juniors so I would say that the number 10 pole on any team doesn't need to worry about 10th grade recruiting.
But playing for great coaches and against the best players you can in practice will make you a better player for showcases as a rising 11th or 12th grader. There is probably a reason the kid is the 10th pole on the team, do you really think the 10th pole on Terps can go to the Jesters, fl$ or outlaws and be a top three player and get college looks as a rising 10th grader?
On what team(s) are they taking 10 long poles?
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Been in turtles from beginning. They were NOT and express team until MC came asking them to be part of express. They formed by invitation only. Had nothing to do with express. In fact it was formed because they all hated what express stood for.
Back then, when there was maybe 3 travel programs on Long Island, what did Express stand for? Just curious...
Terps 2018 did last year
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams can he coach? How is the 10th long pole or attackman getting a good look at a showcase? They may have gotten better, but many would be better off playing on a different team where they actually get more game time at tournaments and showcases. College coaches do not care who wins or loses. They are watching the kids ON the field!
The 10th Pole on all of Long Island is not getting recruited in 10th grade, the 9th and 10th grade recruits are for the big time D1 programs and if you cannot be a top 2-3 player on a top team (Extreme, Terps) then you are not signing as a 10th grader. According to LAXPOWER their are 6 Long Island Defenseman verbally committed to college in the 2016 class, those are rising juniors so I would say that the number 10 pole on any team doesn't need to worry about 10th grade recruiting.
But playing for great coaches and against the best players you can in practice will make you a better player for showcases as a rising 11th or 12th grader. There is probably a reason the kid is the 10th pole on the team, do you really think the 10th pole on Terps can go to the Jesters, fl$ or outlaws and be a top three player and get college looks as a rising 10th grader?
Would never discount practice , but summer club ball is about actually gaining real game experience against the best competition. The recruiting thing will happen when and if the time comes. Would rather be the 5th pole on fl$, jesters or outlaws instead of 10th pole anywhere. Play for a good coach, do well in school , and go to showcases. It will happen if you are good enough. Playing on a team with more than 25 kids is bad idea and will be disappointing.
Express may get more kids at certain individual showcases but if they get 10 (and that would be a very big if) out of 37, you better make sure you are in top 10.
Same thing they stand for today. $$$$$ and greed. No care for the kids. MC is all about the $$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!
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Terps 2018 did last year
So how do 10 long poles get in a game? How is playing time managed for those 10? I dont think he has 10 on his younger teams so is that something that happens on all Express teams once they get to HS or is it something specific to the 2018 team?
My son is years away from HS but is interested in Express and in fact tried out last night.
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Same thing they stand for today. $$$$$ and greed. No care for the kids. MC is all about the $$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!
Funny you say that, I just read a funny tweet from some parody mom twitter account about lax. She called express, "Long Island American Express"! Lol
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Been in turtles from beginning. They were NOT and express team until MC came asking them to be part of express. They formed by invitation only. Had nothing to do with express. In fact it was formed because they all hated what express stood for.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Been in turtles from beginning. They were NOT and express team until MC came asking them to be part of express. They formed by invitation only. Had nothing to do with express. In fact it was formed because they all hated what express stood for.
Yes, but there are better options now than there were 2-3 years ago
The benefit was to the express. Made them look like they have a lot of commits. All other express teams stunk!!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Same thing they stand for today. $$$$$ and greed. No care for the kids. MC is all about the $$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!
Funny you say that, I just read a funny tweet from some parody mom twitter account about lax. She called express, "Long Island American Express"! Lol
Do you (or anyone) know name of this twitter account you mentioned? I can't find it, I need a lax laugh.
Please don't discredit or Diminish 91 commits.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
Wish all you doubters saw the talent pool at tryouts tonight.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Been in turtles from beginning. They were NOT and express team until MC came asking them to be part of express. They formed by invitation only. Had nothing to do with express. In fact it was formed because they all hated what express stood for.
Imagine owning a retail lacrosse chain on long island and are approached to bring your sons team into the largest and most successful (at the time) lacrosse organization on Long Island with ties into many LI high schools. Maybe it was for reasons other then lacrosse
A few famous names that I'm sure didn't need 91
Subtract 10 out of 16 turtle commits for 2017 and LIE hasn't had a great showing thus far.
Turtles did it all on their own. From day one.
Turtles did it all on their own. From day one.
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Wish all you doubters saw the talent pool at tryouts tonight.
What age are you speaking of?
Heard the tryouts Monday were poorly attended. I know at least 5 people that stayed away because of their failure to give any info.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please don't discredit or Diminish 91 commits.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
Congrats to those Team 91 players. Below are list of Turtles & Express 2017 commits.
13 Turtles so far-
Hopkins 3 players
Harvard 2 players
Fairfield 2 players
Maryland
Bucknell
UPENN
Mich
UNC
Duke
2 Express 2017 players so far-
UNC
Cornell
Can only speak from experience with Chany. 2 years ago he mentioned something about my kid and said he could help him a lot if I'd let MC train him.
1. The man is good at what he does.
2. $ was never an issue. At the time things were tight and he would accept whatever I could afford at the time and never said boo.
3. Have seen his teams practice and they were all upbeat and professional.
4. If I didn't have constraints due other than lacrosse obligations I would have my son tryout for his program.
1. The man is good at what he does.
2. $ was never an issue. At the time things were tight and he would accept whatever I could afford at the time and never said boo.
3. Have seen his teams practice and they were all upbeat and professional.
4. If I didn't have constraints due other than lacrosse obligations I would have my son tryout for his program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please don't discredit or Diminish 91 commits.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
Congrats to those Team 91 players. Below are list of Turtles & Express 2017 commits.
13 Turtles so far-
Hopkins 3 players
Harvard 2 players
Fairfield 2 players
Maryland
Bucknell
UPENN
Mich
UNC
Duke
2 Express 2017 players so far-
UNC
Cornell
Turtles commitments can not be counted as they are a separate invite only. What bo you have now? Pretty much nothing!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard the tryouts Monday were poorly attended. I know at least 5 people that stayed away because of their failure to give any info.
Express been doing this crap for YEARS! They do not give coaching info or have the same 2 coaches, coach 2 or 3 teams. The old timers who run the Express use to get away with it but now for you folks with younger kids, well you have more options of other clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please don't discredit or Diminish 91 commits.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
Congrats to those Team 91 players. Below are list of Turtles & Express 2017 commits.
13 Turtles so far-
Hopkins 3 players
Harvard 2 players
Fairfield 2 players
Maryland
Bucknell
UPENN
Mich
UNC
Duke
2 Express 2017 players so far-
UNC
Cornell
Turtles commitments can not be counted as they are a separate invite only. What bo you have now? Pretty much nothing!
What? Your sentence makes no sense.
I wonder why people stay on Express B teams anymore. You pay the same amount as the A team and get so much less. A few years ago many of their B teams were solid, not so much these days. They used to have B teams that could beat most A teams from other groups. Not anymore.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
Please get off this thread. Go back to your own league and trash talk. Very classless. We get it. No one will ever get anywhere unless they are on 91.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wonder why people stay on Express B teams anymore. You pay the same amount as the A team and get so much less. A few years ago many of their B teams were solid, not so much these days. They used to have B teams that could beat most A teams from other groups. Not anymore.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
Maybe because not every player is an "A" player. There are actually kids that want to learn and be coached by great coaches that care. And get better. It seems to me that you think you can jump to the head of the line if you're on the "A" team. Riding the pines behind way better players does not help the "B" player.
Was anybody at the Express 2018 Tryout tonight?
Attendance: about 100 kids.
Talent: good but not outstanding.
Organization. Poor. No organized way of rotating kids in and out of the 5:4 scrimmages. Coaches could at least have the kids coming off wait at the back of the line.
With 3 max coaches there, really expected more from the Express organization.
Any views?
Attendance: about 100 kids.
Talent: good but not outstanding.
Organization. Poor. No organized way of rotating kids in and out of the 5:4 scrimmages. Coaches could at least have the kids coming off wait at the back of the line.
With 3 max coaches there, really expected more from the Express organization.
Any views?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wonder why people stay on Express B teams anymore. You pay the same amount as the A team and get so much less. A few years ago many of their B teams were solid, not so much these days. They used to have B teams that could beat most A teams from other groups. Not anymore.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
2018 Wolverines were very weak also this year. Two years ago when they were blue and even a year ago they were competitive. They were just bad this year. Barely practiced. As a parent how could I be happy that my team got handled by a town team from Wantagh easily. Wonder if they are going to make changes?
Ok, I get your point about having to be on the field to be noticed. But this is where you need to be honest with yourself - do you think if your son plays over the better players or maybe plays on an average teem that maybe you will pull something over a Petro or danowski caliber coach? The best express teams play in the most competitive tourneys and showcases. You may overexpose your son if he plays over his head.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wonder why people stay on Express B teams anymore. You pay the same amount as the A team and get so much less. A few years ago many of their B teams were solid, not so much these days. They used to have B teams that could beat most A teams from other groups. Not anymore.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
Maybe because not every player is an "A" player. There are actually kids that want to learn and be coached by great coaches that care. And get better. It seems to me that you think you can jump to the head of the line if you're on the "A" team. Riding the pines behind way better players does not help the "B" player.
That's good if Express has told its second teams that they B teams. They have historically sold them that they are as good as other groups A teams. If you are getting your expectations met, then you are good to go dude. I would bet some parents on the Express B teams might not be feeling the same as you.
I did not make the last post but As a new parent that was completely turned off from express this year I agree with most of this. I got a feeling like they are some type of dynasty and I am fool to ask any questions. Was told the same by a father that paid for his son to tryout and meet the coaches. There was no coaches to meet. No one felt the need to even to offer any hospitality. The same kid will end up on 91a but express was the 1st choice. Parents of kids that played on express younger team last year warned me to stay away until 4th grade and do even waste my time if I am not sending my kid to private. Coaching was bad and they hardly practiced. Played on our pal team all year and never had a conflict with express. Team had a father for a 2nd coach.They paid to tryout just to find out if it was still the same coach. They won't even go back to the next tryout. That kid will end up on a good 91 team. I don't see what I am missing. How much do you have to endure to get a year with MC? They are responsible for creating some of these travel teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please get off this thread. Go back to your own league and trash talk. Very classless. We get it. No one will ever get anywhere unless they are on 91.
It is interesting that the last time there was a post on the team 91 forum was July 22. Since then there have been 24 pages of posts on the Express forum, mostly by non express families, The volume and frequency of posts and all the attention Express gets by others clearly indicates something about the strength of the program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wish all you doubters saw the talent pool at tryouts tonight.
What age are you speaking of?
2018.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wonder why people stay on Express B teams anymore. You pay the same amount as the A team and get so much less. A few years ago many of their B teams were solid, not so much these days. They used to have B teams that could beat most A teams from other groups. Not anymore.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
2018 Wolverines were very weak also this year. Two years ago when they were blue and even a year ago they were competitive. They were just bad this year. Barely practiced. As a parent how could I be happy that my team got handled by a town team from Wantagh easily. Wonder if they are going to make changes?
You will be promised things will be different this year but will it really happen? Doubtful......
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please get off this thread. Go back to your own league and trash talk. Very classless. We get it. No one will ever get anywhere unless they are on 91.
It is interesting that the last time there was a post on the team 91 forum was July 22. Since then there have been 24 pages of posts on the Express forum, mostly by non express families, The volume and frequency of posts and all the attention Express gets by others clearly indicates something about the strength of the program.
Strength of program? Don't you see everything written is negative? Program is in trouble
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wish all you doubters saw the talent pool at tryouts tonight.
What age are you speaking of?
2018.
Talent at tryouts and on field in summer will be two different things. They can't all be on the terps (despite the 35 man roster last year) and many will not stay for a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wonder why people stay on Express B teams anymore. You pay the same amount as the A team and get so much less. A few years ago many of their B teams were solid, not so much these days. They used to have B teams that could beat most A teams from other groups. Not anymore.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
2018 Wolverines were very weak also this year. Two years ago when they were blue and even a year ago they were competitive. They were just bad this year. Barely practiced. As a parent how could I be happy that my team got handled by a town team from Wantagh easily. Wonder if they are going to make changes?
You will be promised things will be different this year but will it really happen? Doubtful......
I hope not. There was enough kids there to have two very good teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wonder why people stay on Express B teams anymore. You pay the same amount as the A team and get so much less. A few years ago many of their B teams were solid, not so much these days. They used to have B teams that could beat most A teams from other groups. Not anymore.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
2018 Wolverines were very weak also this year. Two years ago when they were blue and even a year ago they were competitive. They were just bad this year. Barely practiced. As a parent how could I be happy that my team got handled by a town team from Wantagh easily. Wonder if they are going to make changes?
You will be promised things will be different this year but will it really happen? Doubtful......
I hope not. There was enough kids there to have two very good teams.
There were enough kids last year to have two very good teams....and look what happened.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard the tryouts Monday were poorly attended. I know at least 5 people that stayed away because of their failure to give any info.
You heard wrong....there were probably 100 kids there for 2020.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wonder why people stay on Express B teams anymore. You pay the same amount as the A team and get so much less. A few years ago many of their B teams were solid, not so much these days. They used to have B teams that could beat most A teams from other groups. Not anymore.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
2018 Wolverines were very weak also this year. Two years ago when they were blue and even a year ago they were competitive. They were just bad this year. Barely practiced. As a parent how could I be happy that my team got handled by a town team from Wantagh easily. Wonder if they are going to make changes?
You will be promised things will be different this year but will it really happen? Doubtful......
I hope not. There was enough kids there to have two very good teams.
If your son can compete at higher level, why keep him on Express B? So many other teams out there that play in A bracket, Outlaws, Jesters, fl$, Vipers. Kid will get much more attention and college looks playing on one of those teams. No one is promoting your son on Express B, just a fact.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wonder why people stay on Express B teams anymore. You pay the same amount as the A team and get so much less. A few years ago many of their B teams were solid, not so much these days. They used to have B teams that could beat most A teams from other groups. Not anymore.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
The 2020 B team(Wolverines) had to drop to the B brackets at the end of the year to get some wins.
Maybe because not every player is an "A" player. There are actually kids that want to learn and be coached by great coaches that care. And get better. It seems to me that you think you can jump to the head of the line if you're on the "A" team. Riding the pines behind way better players does not help the "B" player.
That's good if Express has told its second teams that they B teams. They have historically sold them that they are as good as other groups A teams. If you are getting your expectations met, then you are good to go dude. I would bet some parents on the Express B teams might not be feeling the same as you.
"That's good if Express has told its second teams that they B teams"
"If you are getting your expectations met, then you are good to go dude."
Is this English?! 12:14am ... put the drink down, and step away from the computer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please don't discredit or Diminish 91 commits.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
Congrats to those Team 91 players. Below are list of Turtles & Express 2017 commits.
13 Turtles so far-
Hopkins 3 players
Harvard 2 players
Fairfield 2 players
Maryland
Bucknell
UPENN
Mich
UNC
Duke
2 Express 2017 players so far-
UNC
Cornell
Turtles commitments can not be counted as they are a separate invite only. What bo you have now? Pretty much nothing!
Turtles are part of Express and have been for years. They were early to the recruiting game and had an excellent coaching strategy (bringing in outside coach who didn't have a kid on the team). Certain parents who have KIDS on the Turtles can say whatever they want about "we did this on our own, we don't need express, etc." but anyone that knows anything about youth lacrosse knows that you can't replicate the Turtles situation again because of the success that Express, Team 91, etc. has had. And there has been turnover on the Turtles, and they have lost games as they get older. But to try and say that the Turtles aren't truly part of Express is a ridiculous statement.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please get off this thread. Go back to your own league and trash talk. Very classless. We get it. No one will ever get anywhere unless they are on 91.
It is interesting that the last time there was a post on the team 91 forum was July 22. Since then there have been 24 pages of posts on the Express forum, mostly by non express families, The volume and frequency of posts and all the attention Express gets by others clearly indicates something about the strength of the program.
22 pages are complaints!! Lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please don't discredit or Diminish 91 commits.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
91 2017 is a very good team, but, I'm sorry, the 91 coach or parent is overstating these stats by 2. UVA and one Penn are former Turtles. 91 had nothing to do with their being recruited (frankly, they are such wonderful players they probably would have been recruited without Turtles too!). But 91 certainly shouldn't be padding its stats.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please don't discredit or Diminish 91 commits.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
91 2017 is a very good team, but, I'm sorry, the 91 coach or parent is overstating these stats by 2. UVA and one Penn are former Turtles. 91 had nothing to do with their being recruited (frankly, they are such wonderful players they probably would have been recruited without Turtles too!). But 91 certainly shouldn't be padding its stats.
Did not the turtles pick up up 3 or 4 from express proper that would have been committed without the turtles? They were all great players on there own prior to the move to turtles and some were committed prior to migration g as well.
Padding is in the eye of the beholder.
The best part is that Long Island has produced so many good D1 prospects in the 2017 class.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please don't discredit or Diminish 91 commits.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
91 2017 is a very good team, but, I'm sorry, the 91 coach or parent is overstating these stats by 2. UVA and one Penn are former Turtles. 91 had nothing to do with their being recruited (frankly, they are such wonderful players they probably would have been recruited without Turtles too!). But 91 certainly shouldn't be padding its stats.
One player is a former Turtle, the other has played one season for the Turtles, Express, 91 & wherever else before that. He has played for a different travel team every year. You need to give the kid the credit and stop padding any organizations stats!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please don't discredit or Diminish 91 commits.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
91 2017 is a very good team, but, I'm sorry, the 91 coach or parent is overstating these stats by 2. UVA and one Penn are former Turtles. 91 had nothing to do with their being recruited (frankly, they are such wonderful players they probably would have been recruited without Turtles too!). But 91 certainly shouldn't be padding its stats.
Did not the turtles pick up up 3 or 4 from express proper that would have been committed without the turtles? They were all great players on there own prior to the move to turtles and some were committed prior to migration g as well.
Padding is in the eye of the beholder.
The best part is that Long Island has produced so many good D1 prospects in the 2017 class.
Great points by both of you IMO. True about both sets of players whom went to 91 last year and the couple of express players whom went to Turtles.
My son is trying out for the express, if he makes it this will be his fourth year on the express and playing for MC and JL... we are happy -
Where's fl$ commits. Big money and nothing to brag about 2017
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please don't discredit or Diminish 91 commits.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
Congrats to those Team 91 players. Below are list of Turtles & Express 2017 commits.
13 Turtles so far-
Hopkins 3 players
Harvard 2 players
Fairfield 2 players
Maryland
Bucknell
UPENN
Mich
UNC
Duke
2 Express 2017 players so far-
UNC
Cornell
Turtles commitments can not be counted as they are a separate invite only. What bo you have now? Pretty much nothing!
Turtles are part of Express and have been for years. They were early to the recruiting game and had an excellent coaching strategy (bringing in outside coach who didn't have a kid on the team). Certain parents who have KIDS on the Turtles can say whatever they want about "we did this on our own, we don't need express, etc." but anyone that knows anything about youth lacrosse knows that you can't replicate the Turtles situation again because of the success that Express, Team 91, etc. has had. And there has been turnover on the Turtles, and they have lost games as they get older. But to try and say that the Turtles aren't truly part of Express is a ridiculous statement.
Could not disagree more. The express can't replicate the Turtles success in other grades because A they don't care, B they're all too egotistical to try. The are concerned with the money each team and grade brings in. period
From all accounts the complaints are coming from 2 or 3 people tops. That's not many in the grand scheme of things. You made your complaints. Get on with your life. Hope your kids do well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where's fl$ commits. Big money and nothing to brag about 2017
Correct! Has anyone checked out that mom twitter? Its very funny! Attacks clubs that rip off crazy people like us! Its @angrylaxmom no way its a real mom but love the humor.
You have express and 91 claiming they have all these commits. It's a joke. Give credit to the KIDS. They are the ones that put in the hard work. Stop giving 91 and MC all this credit. When MC gets a kid who sucks into Hopkins then I'll be impressed wit him. Until then enough already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please get off this thread. Go back to your own league and trash talk. Very classless. We get it. No one will ever get anywhere unless they are on 91.
It is interesting that the last time there was a post on the team 91 forum was July 22. Since then there have been 24 pages of posts on the Express forum, mostly by non express families, The volume and frequency of posts and all the attention Express gets by others clearly indicates something about the strength of the program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please get off this thread. Go back to your own league and trash talk. Very classless. We get it. No one will ever get anywhere unless they are on 91.
It is interesting that the last time there was a post on the team 91 forum was July 22. Since then there have been 24 pages of posts on the Express forum, mostly by non express families, The volume and frequency of posts and all the attention Express gets by others clearly indicates something about the strength of the program.
Then maybe they should spend a little less time hanging out and posting at the Express forum if they are so content? It makes it appear they are a bit insecure about the strength of their own club programs by continually needing to spend so much time and energy on the Express forum. You do not see Express parents trying to prove they have a good thing by bashing 91 on the team 91 forum. Because they are content.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is trying out for the express, if he makes it this will be his fourth year on the express and playing for MC and JL... we are happy -
That's great! The real question is if he doesn't make the MC and JL team will he stay?
On average 2 coaches doing evaluations (one coach got there late and one came and went) for over 120 kids on one field. some kids got 5 minutes in the scrimmage. Rotations done by the "Lord of the Flies" method. For the 10,000 to 12,000$ collected, couldn't more evaluators be hired? Couldn't a few recent college graduates help out on the sidelines?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
On average 2 coaches doing evaluations (one coach got there late and one came and went) for over 120 kids on one field. some kids got 5 minutes in the scrimmage. Rotations done by the "Lord of the Flies" method. For the 10,000 to 12,000$ collected, couldn't more evaluators be hired? Couldn't a few recent college graduates help out on the sidelines?
Lord of the Flies.....Just Brilliant!
Well said and so true.
[quote=Anonymous]On average 2 coaches doing evaluations (one coach got there late and one came and went) for over 120 kids on one field. some kids got 5 minutes in the scrimmage. Rotations done by the "Lord of the Flies" method. For the 10,000 to 12,000$ collected, couldn't more evaluators be hired? Couldn't a few recent college graduates help out on the sidelines? [/quote
Why would anyone expect it to be different this year? The FIX is always in. Caveat Emptor
Why would anyone expect it to be different this year? The FIX is always in. Caveat Emptor
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]My son is trying out for the express, if he makes it this will be his fourth year on the express and playing for MC and JL... we are happy -
That's great! The real question is if he doesn't make the MC and JL team will he stay? [/quote
I hope he makes it, you have 10,000 reasons to hope so.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Please get off this thread. Go back to your own league and trash talk. Very classless. We get it. No one will ever get anywhere unless they are on 91.
It is interesting that the last time there was a post on the team 91 forum was July 22. Since then there have been 24 pages of posts on the Express forum, mostly by non express families, The volume and frequency of posts and all the attention Express gets by others clearly indicates something about the strength of the program.
Then maybe they should spend a little less time hanging out and posting at the Express forum if they are so content? It makes it appear they are a bit insecure about the strength of their own club programs by continually needing to spend so much time and energy on the Express forum. You do not see Express parents trying to prove they have a good thing by bashing 91 on the team 91 forum. Because they are content. [/quote
Your kidding right?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
On average 2 coaches doing evaluations (one coach got there late and one came and went) for over 120 kids on one field. some kids got 5 minutes in the scrimmage. Rotations done by the "Lord of the Flies" method. For the 10,000 to 12,000$ collected, couldn't more evaluators be hired? Couldn't a few recent college graduates help out on the sidelines?
Was at 2019 last night and saw at least 8 coaches evaluating roughly 100 boys. That's about a dozen per tryout attendee. The tryout seemed reasonably well organized and put the kids through their paces. Only occasional issue was the typical set of kids jumping the line on rotations, but that always happens. No scrimmage last night maybe Thursday though. Al in all, my son said that it was a fair event. Can't comment on whether teams are already predetermined, but I would submit that the 2019 version of the tryout would get a grade of somewhere between a B+ to an A.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please don't discredit or Diminish 91 commits.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
2017 D1 commits this year for 91:
Duke
Notre Dame
UVA
Michigan
UPenn x2 players
Georgetown
Boston
Yale
I'm pretty sure any family would be proud to have that as a start for their club team....certainly more are just on the cusp of committing.
Congrats to those Team 91 players. Below are list of Turtles & Express 2017 commits.
13 Turtles so far-
Hopkins 3 players
Harvard 2 players
Fairfield 2 players
Maryland
Bucknell
UPENN
Mich
UNC
Duke
2 Express 2017 players so far-
UNC
Cornell
Turtles commitments can not be counted as they are a separate invite only. What bo you have now? Pretty much nothing!
Turtles are part of Express and have been for years. They were early to the recruiting game and had an excellent coaching strategy (bringing in outside coach who didn't have a kid on the team). Certain parents who have KIDS on the Turtles can say whatever they want about "we did this on our own, we don't need express, etc." but anyone that knows anything about youth lacrosse knows that you can't replicate the Turtles situation again because of the success that Express, Team 91, etc. has had. And there has been turnover on the Turtles, and they have lost games as they get older. But to try and say that the Turtles aren't truly part of Express is a ridiculous statement.
Could not disagree more. The express can't replicate the Turtles success in other grades because A they don't care, B they're all too egotistical to try. The are concerned with the money each team and grade brings in. period
Above poster sounds stupid. There hasn't been another team like the Turtles at any organization with the exception of Team 91 Crush, and that team dynamic/composition is very different - Turtles were balanced and Crush has 3-4 best players in their age group that dominate. Igloo is best team in 2021 age group but they have strong competition and don't blow out the other teams. So explain why you "couldn't disagree more?" Your post doesn't do that statement justice.
"Lord of the Flies" field was the 2018's. Guess they cared more about the 2019's to have 8 evaluators on that field and 2 on the 2018's.
Who were the evaluators for the 2018's?
2nd night of tryouts for 2024 2025. Maybe 40 kids and 1 coach. Wow
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is trying out for the express, if he makes it this will be his fourth year on the express and playing for MC and JL... we are happy -
That's great! The real question is if he doesn't make the MC and JL team will he stay?
Yes
I heard the tryout scrimmage today had all Honey Badgers ball hogging and passing to each other. Wow, $100 fee for that???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2nd night of tryouts for 2024 2025. Maybe 40 kids and 1 coach. Wow
Little guys don't need any stinking coaches! Just roll the balls out and see who survives. The Express way across the board.
Is it true that the honey badgers have mostly red shirts playing grade appropriate? I know the city kids are all a year older . Are the rest ?
The City kids are not all a year older.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Lord of the Flies" field was the 2018's. Guess they cared more about the 2019's to have 8 evaluators on that field and 2 on the 2018's.
Why would you continue to deal with that??? If your a good player, go to second tryout for Outlaws. They look like they are going to have a very strong 2018 team this year. Top kids at first tryout were very strong players.
Actually they are all early and mid 2004s. Check your info
Anyone know when decisions will be made after tonight's tryout? Will we hear something by email? Phone? The communication could have been a little better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2nd night of tryouts for 2024 2025. Maybe 40 kids and 1 coach. Wow
Little guys don't need any stinking coaches! Just roll the balls out and see who survives. The Express way across the board.
So pathetic. The first 20 minutes the coach was teaching them how to throw/catch. This team was terrible last year bc of no coaching. They will be even further behind this year. Was told one team of 2024/2025.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know when decisions will be made after tonight's tryout? Will we hear something by email? Phone? The communication could have been a little better.
MC was clear with the 2022 group. Told all the parents that they would get an email. The earliest would be Friday. . Latest would be Tuesday.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know when decisions will be made after tonight's tryout? Will we hear something by email? Phone? The communication could have been a little better.
MC was clear with the 2022 group. Told all the parents that they would get an email. The earliest would be Friday. . Latest would be Tuesday.
Yup. I heard the same.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know when decisions will be made after tonight's tryout? Will we hear something by email? Phone? The communication could have been a little better.
MC was clear with the 2022 group. Told all the parents that they would get an email. The earliest would be Friday. . Latest would be Tuesday.
Yup. I heard the same.
No insult but if you don't know yet your son didn't make the A team. That team was decided well before yesterday's scrimmage. The scrimmage was not a tryout, the evaluators weren't even paying attention. There was no evaluations going on. Good run though.
The 2021 tryout had a lot of great talent show , there is now a great opportunity for both teams to have additions to make rock solid rosters . Hope express chooses wisely as both teams were short of a few each to dominate the majority of the rival clubs. The two current express goalies from last nights scrimmage were really good.
What age group are you talking about?
No standouts at the 2020 scrimmage.....
2021 had a lot of standouts. now the waiting game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No standouts at the 2020 scrimmage.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 had a lot of standouts. now the waiting game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No standouts at the 2020 scrimmage.....
Agree with Post above - don't hold your breathe, if you weren't invited down or heard already welcome to B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 had a lot of standouts. now the waiting game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No standouts at the 2020 scrimmage.....
The level of skill for 2023 was really high. Those coaches are going to have tough decisions.
2021 Wolverines and Cudas will both be stronger this year with a few new players , both rosters have some really good talent for starters and replacing a few with better talent is going to be the challenge to get the right athlete to mend in with this age group.
The level of skill for 2023 was really high. Those coaches are going to have tough decisions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 had a lot of standouts. now the waiting game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No standouts at the 2020 scrimmage.....
The level of skill for 2023 was really high. Those coaches are going to have tough decisions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 had a lot of standouts. now the waiting game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No standouts at the 2020 scrimmage.....
The level of skill for 2023 was really high. Those coaches are going to have tough decisions.
Easily could have two top level teams at the 2023 level with the amount of quality players at tryouts this week.
OMG, you have to check out the Angry Mom Lacrosse twitter page, she just calls everyone out! Its extremely funny, she even mentioned this site in a cute way! I don't think she like Long Islanders tho, haha.
You see why clubs gravitate towards keeping the kids they know because it is really tough to make these selections. Start with the fact that you have 100 kids on very quick shifts. Sometimes play is elsewhere or you cannot get anyone to throw you a pass despite being wide open. You may also get put on a midfield line with two A team players and look like a superstar, next time up your linemates cannot move the ball and you get nothing going. Tough on all the kids who put a lot of time into getting ready and then some of it (and maybe understandably so) is just out of their hands.
So true...
when do the announcements come out for who made 2023
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OMG, you have to check out the Angry Mom Lacrosse twitter page, she just calls everyone out! Its extremely funny, she even mentioned this site in a cute way! I don't think she like Long Islanders tho, haha.
What is angry mom lacrosse twitter address?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You see why clubs gravitate towards keeping the kids they know because it is really tough to make these selections. Start with the fact that you have 100 kids on very quick shifts. Sometimes play is elsewhere or you cannot get anyone to throw you a pass despite being wide open. You may also get put on a midfield line with two A team players and look like a superstar, next time up your line mates cannot move the ball and you get nothing going. Tough on all the kids who put a lot of time into getting ready and then some of it (and maybe understandably so) is just out of their hands.
With two sons in HS I've sat through more tryouts than I care to remember (or admit to having paid for). As an observer I've found there are always certain kids that catch your eye. I started telling my sons that you can't just go through tryouts hoping the coach will notice you. You have to put yourself in the best situation to be noticed by the coaches. I know it's not always possible but there are some simple things you can do to help. (these seem very obvious but more often than not I've seen the majority of players ignore them and gravitate to the middle of the pack and anonymity ).
1. Be first. When the coach calls you in, when the coach runs a drill, when you come back from a water break, be first. The coaches will never see you in the back of the pack.
2. Talk. Always be talking (loudly). Call for the ball, talk on D, etc. Never go though a drill without talking. The goalie should not be the only one the coaches hear. I can't tell you how many times I found myself watch a group other than my sons because someone caught my ear.
3. Never stand still during a drill. Always be moving, especially when you don't have the ball. Look to clear out, set picks, etc. Once you stand still the coach will stop watching you.
4. Full speed. Never go 3/4 speed through a drill. Full speed, move and protect your stick as if it were a game. A player going full speed through a drill will stand out immediately against a group going 3/4
5. Watch your match ups. If you've been running the 3-2 drill with the same two players who never seem to pass or always drop your passes, switch your group up. A simple tying of your shoelace will mix up the order of the lines in the drill and match you up with a new group. The coaches can't evaluate you if you are not touching the ball.
6. Don't hesitate. Right or wrong, always play like you know what you are doing. If you shoot, shoot like you mean it. If you look to pass, pass like you men it. If you cut, cut like you mean it. Mr. Miyagi: "...Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later...get squish just like grape." Don't hesitate
7. Walk like you own the place. Body language says a lot. When I see a player walking with his read up, walking with confidence, watching the drills closely, I immediately get a mental picture of a player who can take charge or be a leader. When I see a player walking with his head down, looking at the ground, talking to his friends, etc, I get the impression of a player who may not be sure of himself or doesn't really want to be here. These coaches don't know what type of player/person you are. Their impression of you is based on a lot more than your off stick skill.
These tips CAN help a coach notice you. What he see's when he starts looking is up to you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OMG, you have to check out the Angry Mom Lacrosse twitter page, she just calls everyone out! Its extremely funny, she even mentioned this site in a cute way! I don't think she like Long Islanders tho, haha.
What is angry mom lacrosse twitter address?
@yourareanidiotifyoucantfigureitout
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OMG, you have to check out the Angry Mom Lacrosse twitter page, she just calls everyone out! Its extremely funny, she even mentioned this site in a cute way! I don't think she like Long Islanders tho, haha.
What is angry mom lacrosse twitter address?
@angrylaxmom :"Last Fall, Shane teammate yelled @ him, "heres your help," I SCREAMED, "my baby needs no HELP!" I luv that he never passes ball! #FullRideD1"
No way its real! There is a whole bunch like this on there. good stuff lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 had a lot of standouts. now the waiting game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No standouts at the 2020 scrimmage.....
The level of skill for 2023 was really high. Those coaches are going to have tough decisions.
Easily could have two top level teams at the 2023 level with the amount of quality players at tryouts this week.
The key is keeping the top 44 and those who had aspired to be on A realize the 2023 B team will probably be the 3rd best. Behind the Badgers and 91.
Or you can hold a 2018 kid back and bring him to the 2019 tryout. They've been doing this "reclassifying" in the Maryland private school system and now it's being done up here.
What does Express cost all in? Fall, Winter, Spring & Summer. 4th/5th grade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What does Express cost all in? Fall, Winter, Spring & Summer. 4th/5th grade.
Don't know for this year. But last year the base was $2600, but you could opt out of the fall and save $800.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You see why clubs gravitate towards keeping the kids they know because it is really tough to make these selections. Start with the fact that you have 100 kids on very quick shifts. Sometimes play is elsewhere or you cannot get anyone to throw you a pass despite being wide open. You may also get put on a midfield line with two A team players and look like a superstar, next time up your line mates cannot move the ball and you get nothing going. Tough on all the kids who put a lot of time into getting ready and then some of it (and maybe understandably so) is just out of their hands.
With two sons in HS I've sat through more tryouts than I care to remember (or admit to having paid for). As an observer I've found there are always certain kids that catch your eye. I started telling my sons that you can't just go through tryouts hoping the coach will notice you. You have to put yourself in the best situation to be noticed by the coaches. I know it's not always possible but there are some simple things you can do to help. (these seem very obvious but more often than not I've seen the majority of players ignore them and gravitate to the middle of the pack and anonymity ).
1. Be first. When the coach calls you in, when the coach runs a drill, when you come back from a water break, be first. The coaches will never see you in the back of the pack.
2. Talk. Always be talking (loudly). Call for the ball, talk on D, etc. Never go though a drill without talking. The goalie should not be the only one the coaches hear. I can't tell you how many times I found myself watch a group other than my sons because someone caught my ear.
3. Never stand still during a drill. Always be moving, especially when you don't have the ball. Look to clear out, set picks, etc. Once you stand still the coach will stop watching you.
4. Full speed. Never go 3/4 speed through a drill. Full speed, move and protect your stick as if it were a game. A player going full speed through a drill will stand out immediately against a group going 3/4
5. Watch your match ups. If you've been running the 3-2 drill with the same two players who never seem to pass or always drop your passes, switch your group up. A simple tying of your shoelace will mix up the order of the lines in the drill and match you up with a new group. The coaches can't evaluate you if you are not touching the ball.
6. Don't hesitate. Right or wrong, always play like you know what you are doing. If you shoot, shoot like you mean it. If you look to pass, pass like you men it. If you cut, cut like you mean it. Mr. Miyagi: "...Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later...get squish just like grape." Don't hesitate
7. Walk like you own the place. Body language says a lot. When I see a player walking with his read up, walking with confidence, watching the drills closely, I immediately get a mental picture of a player who can take charge or be a leader. When I see a player walking with his head down, looking at the ground, talking to his friends, etc, I get the impression of a player who may not be sure of himself or doesn't really want to be here. These coaches don't know what type of player/person you are. Their impression of you is based on a lot more than your off stick skill.
These tips CAN help a coach notice you. What he see's when he starts looking is up to you.
Thanks for this reply....it is probably one of the best and most pragmatic posts I have ever read on BOTC. Appreciate the advice.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You see why clubs gravitate towards keeping the kids they know because it is really tough to make these selections. Start with the fact that you have 100 kids on very quick shifts. Sometimes play is elsewhere or you cannot get anyone to throw you a pass despite being wide open. You may also get put on a midfield line with two A team players and look like a superstar, next time up your linemates cannot move the ball and you get nothing going. Tough on all the kids who put a lot of time into getting ready and then some of it (and maybe understandably so) is just out of their hands.
That is why even warm up catch/throw and any drills are just as important as any scrimmage.
which one 2023 or 2022? they don't play combined
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What does Express cost all in? Fall, Winter, Spring & Summer. 4th/5th grade.
Don't know for this year. But last year the base was $2600, but you could opt out of the fall and save $800.
If the base last year was $2600, what would you estimate your additional/optional charges were? Were there ANY additional costs?
Comparable to Igloo in cost. You will pay all the bells and whistles such as 91 has a base then you are offered the fall at additional cost spring , and then expected to attend the DLT clinics in both winter sessions. They all may not be as high as this cost but each year they creep up .
Don't know for this year. But last year the base was $2600, but you could opt out of the fall and save $800.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What does Express cost all in? Fall, Winter, Spring & Summer. 4th/5th grade.
Don't know for this year. But last year the base was $2600, but you could opt out of the fall and save $800.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You see why clubs gravitate towards keeping the kids they know because it is really tough to make these selections. Start with the fact that you have 100 kids on very quick shifts. Sometimes play is elsewhere or you cannot get anyone to throw you a pass despite being wide open. You may also get put on a midfield line with two A team players and look like a superstar, next time up your line mates cannot move the ball and you get nothing going. Tough on all the kids who put a lot of time into getting ready and then some of it (and maybe understandably so) is just out of their hands.
With two sons in HS I've sat through more tryouts than I care to remember (or admit to having paid for). As an observer I've found there are always certain kids that catch your eye. I started telling my sons that you can't just go through tryouts hoping the coach will notice you. You have to put yourself in the best situation to be noticed by the coaches. I know it's not always possible but there are some simple things you can do to help. (these seem very obvious but more often than not I've seen the majority of players ignore them and gravitate to the middle of the pack and anonymity ).
1. Be first. When the coach calls you in, when the coach runs a drill, when you come back from a water break, be first. The coaches will never see you in the back of the pack.
2. Talk. Always be talking (loudly). Call for the ball, talk on D, etc. Never go though a drill without talking. The goalie should not be the only one the coaches hear. I can't tell you how many times I found myself watch a group other than my sons because someone caught my ear.
3. Never stand still during a drill. Always be moving, especially when you don't have the ball. Look to clear out, set picks, etc. Once you stand still the coach will stop watching you.
4. Full speed. Never go 3/4 speed through a drill. Full speed, move and protect your stick as if it were a game. A player going full speed through a drill will stand out immediately against a group going 3/4
5. Watch your match ups. If you've been running the 3-2 drill with the same two players who never seem to pass or always drop your passes, switch your group up. A simple tying of your shoelace will mix up the order of the lines in the drill and match you up with a new group. The coaches can't evaluate you if you are not touching the ball.
6. Don't hesitate. Right or wrong, always play like you know what you are doing. If you shoot, shoot like you mean it. If you look to pass, pass like you men it. If you cut, cut like you mean it. Mr. Miyagi: "...Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later...get squish just like grape." Don't hesitate
7. Walk like you own the place. Body language says a lot. When I see a player walking with his read up, walking with confidence, watching the drills closely, I immediately get a mental picture of a player who can take charge or be a leader. When I see a player walking with his head down, looking at the ground, talking to his friends, etc, I get the impression of a player who may not be sure of himself or doesn't really want to be here. These coaches don't know what type of player/person you are. Their impression of you is based on a lot more than your off stick skill.
These tips CAN help a coach notice you. What he see's when he starts looking is up to you.
Wow - what a fantastic post!! It is a gem like this that makes this site worth visiting - as opposed to all the flaming that goes on here. Thank you for your insight!
Real question is how to convince kids that are that talented ("3rd best team") to play for the Express B team when they can presumably make "A" teams at established organizations like Outlaws or Igloo. Why would they settle for 2nd fiddle at Express at this age? Coaching should be everything. Is the "B" team coaching at Express so much better? Who are the coaches going to be? I saw the Honey Badger coaches at tryout but no other coaches. Seems like coaches at 2023 for Outlaws and Igloo are accomplished.
Really odd night for the 2018's at tryouts. It seemed so "lax" luster and was a lot really great plays for a 2 hour scrimmage. They said results would be sent out by Sunday.
Take it from experience. Don't ever waste your money on an Express B team unless you truly believe that's the right place for your son. Otherwise, you will spend an entire year wasted and regretting every minute while others move forward with much better experiences and growth elsewhere. If the Expresse priced according for the value of the experience and product like every other business on the planet, a B team would cost 50% of the A team and the C team 50% of the B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Take it from experience. Don't ever waste your money on an Express B team unless you truly believe that's the right place for your son. Otherwise, you will spend an entire year wasted and regretting every minute while others move forward with much better experiences and growth elsewhere. If the Expresse priced according for the value of the experience and product like every other business on the planet, a B team would cost 50% of the A team and the C team 50% of the B team.
Especially the 2020 B team. Go try out for one the teams that beat you when you played in the A brackets this year, before your team got put in the B brackets at the end of the year. You want to pay close to $3,000 for that again?
Why should the B team not be in B brackets? Maybe they are happy on a B team? Not an Express parent but Im not sure why this is an issue. The A team plays in A bracket- B team on B bracket. If this team is closer to home than others- it is still a good fit if the boys are happy. Maybe I've missed something in the threads, possibly some getting no playing time, abusive coach, no practice etc. if none of these are true- then it seems like kids that are not quite at the A level are having a good experience at a B team and maybe will have a better experience next summer if they actually stay in B brackets. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Take it from experience. Don't ever waste your money on an Express B team unless you truly believe that's the right place for your son. Otherwise, you will spend an entire year wasted and regretting every minute while others move forward with much better experiences and growth elsewhere. If the Expresse priced according for the value of the experience and product like every other business on the planet, a B team would cost 50% of the A team and the C team 50% of the B team.
Especially the 2020 B team. Go try out for one the teams that beat you when you played in the A brackets this year, before your team got put in the B brackets at the end of the year. You want to pay close to $3,000 for that again?
What were the specific areas in which the 2020 Express team was treated better than the B team. Better tournaments, coaching....what?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why should the B team not be in B brackets? Maybe they are happy on a B team? Not an Express parent but Im not sure why this is an issue. The A team plays in A bracket- B team on B bracket. If this team is closer to home than others- it is still a good fit if the boys are happy. Maybe I've missed something in the threads, possibly some getting no playing time, abusive coach, no practice etc. if none of these are true- then it seems like kids that are not quite at the A level are having a good experience at a B team and maybe will have a better experience next summer if they actually stay in B brackets. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Express and 91 sell the fact that their B teams are better than most groups A teams. It is still true at 91 in most grades. It is not true at Express anymore. Of course there is no shame in being in a B team or playing in B brackets. As long as they tell you that going in.
Biggest problem is parents Always want the best for their kid to a far extent of being realistic enough to realize that although being on an A team is competitive and the team to brag about with there friends at a BBQ that little johnny plays on the "A" team , the truth of the matter is if your not the top 10 on a team you will be short changed dramatically during a tournament situation. They may think because they goto all the practices and buddy up with the coaches that they are top tier of the team along with everyone else only to find out the hard way once game day comes. These parents then start to bash the coaches and other kids due to their johnny is not the superstar , Many B teams are good enough to play in the A bracket and some actually do compete very well without the pressure that that most A teams put on the kids , Yes its all in the coaching and some coaches techniques are not for everyone So sometimes you need to sit back and weigh out the options of what will truly best fit your sons experience.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why should the B team not be in B brackets? Maybe they are happy on a B team? Not an Express parent but Im not sure why this is an issue. The A team plays in A bracket- B team on B bracket. If this team is closer to home than others- it is still a good fit if the boys are happy. Maybe I've missed something in the threads, possibly some getting no playing time, abusive coach, no practice etc. if none of these are true- then it seems like kids that are not quite at the A level are having a good experience at a B team and maybe will have a better experience next summer if they actually stay in B brackets. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You see why clubs gravitate towards keeping the kids they know because it is really tough to make these selections. Start with the fact that you have 100 kids on very quick shifts. Sometimes play is elsewhere or you cannot get anyone to throw you a pass despite being wide open. You may also get put on a midfield line with two A team players and look like a superstar, next time up your line mates cannot move the ball and you get nothing going. Tough on all the kids who put a lot of time into getting ready and then some of it (and maybe understandably so) is just out of their hands.
With two sons in HS I've sat through more tryouts than I care to remember (or admit to having paid for). As an observer I've found there are always certain kids that catch your eye. I started telling my sons that you can't just go through tryouts hoping the coach will notice you. You have to put yourself in the best situation to be noticed by the coaches. I know it's not always possible but there are some simple things you can do to help. (these seem very obvious but more often than not I've seen the majority of players ignore them and gravitate to the middle of the pack and anonymity ).
1. Be first. When the coach calls you in, when the coach runs a drill, when you come back from a water break, be first. The coaches will never see you in the back of the pack.
2. Talk. Always be talking (loudly). Call for the ball, talk on D, etc. Never go though a drill without talking. The goalie should not be the only one the coaches hear. I can't tell you how many times I found myself watch a group other than my sons because someone caught my ear.
3. Never stand still during a drill. Always be moving, especially when you don't have the ball. Look to clear out, set picks, etc. Once you stand still the coach will stop watching you.
4. Full speed. Never go 3/4 speed through a drill. Full speed, move and protect your stick as if it were a game. A player going full speed through a drill will stand out immediately against a group going 3/4
5. Watch your match ups. If you've been running the 3-2 drill with the same two players who never seem to pass or always drop your passes, switch your group up. A simple tying of your shoelace will mix up the order of the lines in the drill and match you up with a new group. The coaches can't evaluate you if you are not touching the ball.
6. Don't hesitate. Right or wrong, always play like you know what you are doing. If you shoot, shoot like you mean it. If you look to pass, pass like you men it. If you cut, cut like you mean it. Mr. Miyagi: "...Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later...get squish just like grape." Don't hesitate
7. Walk like you own the place. Body language says a lot. When I see a player walking with his read up, walking with confidence, watching the drills closely, I immediately get a mental picture of a player who can take charge or be a leader. When I see a player walking with his head down, looking at the ground, talking to his friends, etc, I get the impression of a player who may not be sure of himself or doesn't really want to be here. These coaches don't know what type of player/person you are. Their impression of you is based on a lot more than your off stick skill.
These tips CAN help a coach notice you. What he see's when he starts looking is up to you.
GREAT POST. Thanks for keeping it positive and informative. I'm often entertained, but also disgusted by a lot of the BS that is posted on here.
Post's like the one above is what really keeps people coming back. Good luck to all the kids!
Original question seemed more specific to 2023 and what kids should do if they make the Express B team. Had to have been more than 25 good kids at the tryout and so they won't make the A team. What's the attraction of Express B vs. Outlaws, Igloo, True Blue, Jesters, etc. A teams at this age? Won't these kids get better coaching/attention if they are on the A team at another organization? How can Express keep those kids instead of them going to another established club?
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Original question seemed more specific to 2023 and what kids should do if they make the Express B team. Had to have been more than 25 good kids at the tryout and so they won't make the A team. What's the attraction of Express B vs. Outlaws, Igloo, True Blue, Jesters, etc. A teams at this age? Won't these kids get better coaching/attention if they are on the A team at another organization? How can Express keep those kids instead of them going to another established club?
You run the risk of not being on a team. Because you try out for express and make a B team does not mean you will make an A team in another club. Maybe you are just a B this year.
Some parents think Express B is better, ha..Are they in for a rude awakening..$1800 for 9 practices at 5pm at St.Anthonys front field..Enjoy!
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Original question seemed more specific to 2023 and what kids should do if they make the Express B team. Had to have been more than 25 good kids at the tryout and so they won't make the A team. What's the attraction of Express B vs. Outlaws, Igloo, True Blue, Jesters, etc. A teams at this age? Won't these kids get better coaching/attention if they are on the A team at another organization? How can Express keep those kids instead of them going to another established club?
If my son didn't make a particular clubs A team, I would look for another clubs A roster that he could make. Even if a kid doesn't make the TOP rated club, if he plays against that team, he and all of his teammates will be challenged.
And if he wasn't good enough to make an A roster, I wouldn't bother with any Club B teams. PAL Travel and clinics would be a better way to spend the time and money.
Right !!!! are you one of those 91 marketing guys? being they scooped up your players your trying to deter the press payment button this weekend?? You enjoy
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Some parents think Express B is better, ha..Are they in for a rude awakening..$1800 for 9 practices at 5pm at St.Anthonys front field..Enjoy!
The best part of all this is that this thread started nearly 4 years ago and I went back to compare the discussion then vs now, to see what's changed, and it's so similar.
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Original question seemed more specific to 2023 and what kids should do if they make the Express B team. Had to have been more than 25 good kids at the tryout and so they won't make the A team. What's the attraction of Express B vs. Outlaws, Igloo, True Blue, Jesters, etc. A teams at this age? Won't these kids get better coaching/attention if they are on the A team at another organization? How can Express keep those kids instead of them going to another established club?
If my son didn't make a particular clubs A team, I would look for another clubs A roster that he could make. Even if a kid doesn't make the TOP rated club, if he plays against that team, he and all of his teammates will be challenged.
And if he wasn't good enough to make an A roster, I wouldn't bother with any Club B teams. PAL Travel and clinics would be a better way to spend the time and money.
If you are in a good to decent lacrosse town, then I think you are right on. The problem is for the kids from towns that don't have solid PAL programs.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Original question seemed more specific to 2023 and what kids should do if they make the Express B team. Had to have been more than 25 good kids at the tryout and so they won't make the A team. What's the attraction of Express B vs. Outlaws, Igloo, True Blue, Jesters, etc. A teams at this age? Won't these kids get better coaching/attention if they are on the A team at another organization? How can Express keep those kids instead of them going to another established club?
If my son didn't make a particular clubs A team, I would look for another clubs A roster that he could make. Even if a kid doesn't make the TOP rated club, if he plays against that team, he and all of his teammates will be challenged.
And if he wasn't good enough to make an A roster, I wouldn't bother with any Club B teams. PAL Travel and clinics would be a better way to spend the time and money.
If you look like a B player and you smell like a B player, your a B player.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Original question seemed more specific to 2023 and what kids should do if they make the Express B team. Had to have been more than 25 good kids at the tryout and so they won't make the A team. What's the attraction of Express B vs. Outlaws, Igloo, True Blue, Jesters, etc. A teams at this age? Won't these kids get better coaching/attention if they are on the A team at another organization? How can Express keep those kids instead of them going to another established club?
If my son didn't make a particular clubs A team, I would look for another clubs A roster that he could make. Even if a kid doesn't make the TOP rated club, if he plays against that team, he and all of his teammates will be challenged.
And if he wasn't good enough to make an A roster, I wouldn't bother with any Club B teams. PAL Travel and clinics would be a better way to spend the time and money.
If you look like a B player and you smell like a B player, your a B player.
I sincerely hope this is a kid posting this and not a parent.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Original question seemed more specific to 2023 and what kids should do if they make the Express B team. Had to have been more than 25 good kids at the tryout and so they won't make the A team. What's the attraction of Express B vs. Outlaws, Igloo, True Blue, Jesters, etc. A teams at this age? Won't these kids get better coaching/attention if they are on the A team at another organization? How can Express keep those kids instead of them going to another established club?
If my son didn't make a particular clubs A team, I would look for another clubs A roster that he could make. Even if a kid doesn't make the TOP rated club, if he plays against that team, he and all of his teammates will be challenged.
And if he wasn't good enough to make an A roster, I wouldn't bother with any Club B teams. PAL Travel and clinics would be a better way to spend the time and money.
If you look like a B player and you smell like a B player, your a B player.
I sincerely hope this is a kid posting this and not a parent.
Its a blunt way to say "look in the mirror and know your skill level." Many kids make an A team and are completely overmatched not challenged.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some parents think Express B is better, ha..Are they in for a rude awakening..$1800 for 9 practices at 5pm at St.Anthonys front field..Enjoy!
That works for me
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Original question seemed more specific to 2023 and what kids should do if they make the Express B team. Had to have been more than 25 good kids at the tryout and so they won't make the A team. What's the attraction of Express B vs. Outlaws, Igloo, True Blue, Jesters, etc. A teams at this age? Won't these kids get better coaching/attention if they are on the A team at another organization? How can Express keep those kids instead of them going to another established club?
If my son didn't make a particular clubs A team, I would look for another clubs A roster that he could make. Even if a kid doesn't make the TOP rated club, if he plays against that team, he and all of his teammates will be challenged.
And if he wasn't good enough to make an A roster, I wouldn't bother with any Club B teams. PAL Travel and clinics would be a better way to spend the time and money.
If you look like a B player and you smell like a B player, your a B player.
Don't be so smug....
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Original question seemed more specific to 2023 and what kids should do if they make the Express B team. Had to have been more than 25 good kids at the tryout and so they won't make the A team. What's the attraction of Express B vs. Outlaws, Igloo, True Blue, Jesters, etc. A teams at this age? Won't these kids get better coaching/attention if they are on the A team at another organization? How can Express keep those kids instead of them going to another established club?
If my son didn't make a particular clubs A team, I would look for another clubs A roster that he could make. Even if a kid doesn't make the TOP rated club, if he plays against that team, he and all of his teammates will be challenged.
And if he wasn't good enough to make an A roster, I wouldn't bother with any Club B teams. PAL Travel and clinics would be a better way to spend the time and money.
If you look like a B player and you smell like a B player, your a B player.
I sincerely hope this is a kid posting this and not a parent.
Its a blunt way to say "look in the mirror and know your skill level." Many kids make an A team and are completely overmatched not challenged.
Making an A team and being over matched is not a bad thing. Kids should always look to play with better players. Looking in the mirror and telling yourself this is as good as it gets at age 10-14, not so good.
"If you look for the best player on your team and you are it, you are on the wrong team".
Many are on A teams at one organization but wouldn't make B or C teams at other organizations.
Me too!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Original question seemed more specific to 2023 and what kids should do if they make the Express B team. Had to have been more than 25 good kids at the tryout and so they won't make the A team. What's the attraction of Express B vs. Outlaws, Igloo, True Blue, Jesters, etc. A teams at this age? Won't these kids get better coaching/attention if they are on the A team at another organization? How can Express keep those kids instead of them going to another established club?
If my son didn't make a particular clubs A team, I would look for another clubs A roster that he could make. Even if a kid doesn't make the TOP rated club, if he plays against that team, he and all of his teammates will be challenged.
And if he wasn't good enough to make an A roster, I wouldn't bother with any Club B teams. PAL Travel and clinics would be a better way to spend the time and money.
If you look like a B player and you smell like a B player, your a B player.
I sincerely hope this is a kid posting this and not a parent.
Its a blunt way to say "look in the mirror and know your skill level." Many kids make an A team and are completely overmatched not challenged.
Making an A team and being over matched is not a bad thing. Kids should always look to play with better players. Looking in the mirror and telling yourself this is as good as it gets at age 10-14, not so good.
"If you look for the best player on your team and you are it, you are on the wrong team".
what is worse if you look around and your the worst player.
problem is there isn't much room between being the worst on a highly talented team to being the best on an avg team.
there is always a place to play just need to find it.
So what did Michael Jordan say when he looked in the mirror and was the best on his team in Chicago..."hmm Mike..your the best here, you must be on the wrong team"
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So what did Michael Jordan say when he looked in the mirror and was the best on his team in Chicago..."hmm Mike..your the best here, you must be on the wrong team"
So now you're comparing Michael Jordan in his prime to 10 year old kids? You seriously need help.
And by the way genius, if you are going to post in a public forum, know the difference between, your & you're.
Dickie Dunn: I tried to capture the spirit of the thing.
Just play. Have fun. Enjoy the game.
Michael Jordan
Michael Jordan
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So what did Michael Jordan say when he looked in the mirror and was the best on his team in Chicago..."hmm Mike..your the best here, you must be on the wrong team"
Obviously he didn't. However I would be willing to bet he did when he was playing youth ball, which is what we are talking about here. One of the best ways to improve your game is to continue to challenge yourself. Playing with better players is one way to do that. It's true about everything in life: sports, school your job.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what did Michael Jordan say when he looked in the mirror and was the best on his team in Chicago..."hmm Mike..your the best here, you must be on the wrong team"
Obviously he didn't. However I would be willing to bet he did when he was playing youth ball, which is what we are talking about here. One of the best ways to improve your game is to continue to challenge yourself. Playing with better players is one way to do that. It's true about everything in life: sports, school your job.
What are you a fillosophyser?
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No standouts at the 2020 scrimmage.....
About how many 2020 players were at tryouts?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what did Michael Jordan say when he looked in the mirror and was the best on his team in Chicago..."hmm Mike..your the best here, you must be on the wrong team"
So now you're comparing Michael Jordan in his prime to 10 year old kids? You seriously need help.
And by the way genius, if you are going to post in a public forum, know the difference between, your & you're.
you've lost when you go to grammar rebuttal. Good indiction you are out of valid thoughts. The poster was talking about a kid recognizing he was the best on his team and it's time to leave the team. He used Jordan as an analogy to make a point how stupid that thought was.
Michael Jordan got cut from his JV team.
Lesson, if your son likes to play, let him keep playing. You never know.
Lesson, if your son likes to play, let him keep playing. You never know.
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Michael Jordan got cut from his JV team.
Lesson, if your son likes to play, let him keep playing. You never know.
Lesson, if your son likes to play, let him keep playing. You never know.
He was never actually cut. He played JV for a year. Was mad he didn't make varsity.
Have Express invites gone out? If so do they specify that you need to accept and pay prior to try outs for other clubs held the first week end of Sept? Does Express and other clubs really hold you to this deadline?
Can anyone tell me what the fees were for the 2014 season? Have the 2015 fees been announced? Surprising that they don't display this information on their website like other teams do. Are there any extra fees above and beyond the initial team fee?
It was 1800 for the summer, if you choose to play fallball which is 3-4 ? Tournaments and fall practices included it was an additional 800 , like anywhere else winter activities you will also pay extra .
About $2700.
If you did not make the A team, do not be suckered or pressured to pay on such short notice. They will go down the line and fill the team with any warm bodies they can find. Take your chances finding another A team - trust me, its worth the effort and there are so many alternatives now that theres very little risk that you won't be able to upgrade your son's experience.
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It was 1800 for the summer, if you choose to play fallball which is 3-4 ? Tournaments and fall practices included it was an additional 800 , like anywhere else winter activities you will also pay extra .
$1,800 for a single season? LOL. No wonder Team 91 is killing the Express. That is outrageous.
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If you did not make the A team, do not be suckered or pressured to pay on such short notice. They will go down the line and fill the team with any warm bodies they can find. Take your chances finding another A team - trust me, its worth the effort and there are so many alternatives now that theres very little risk that you won't be able to upgrade your son's experience.
Amen
Don't know what that means but 91 charges basically the same cost for summer give or take $50.00 , they also charge for fallball tournaments and winter and spring league and winter practices as well , if you think 91 cost is all inclusive then you most likely never played for that organization they are all in it for the money no matter what organization.
$1,800 for a single season? LOL. No wonder Team 91 is killing the Express. That is outrageous.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It was 1800 for the summer, if you choose to play fallball which is 3-4 ? Tournaments and fall practices included it was an additional 800 , like anywhere else winter activities you will also pay extra .
$1,800 for a single season? LOL. No wonder Team 91 is killing the Express. That is outrageous.
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Have Express invites gone out? If so do they specify that you need to accept and pay prior to try outs for other clubs held the first week end of Sept? Does Express and other clubs really hold you to this deadline?
Yep. Absolutely. First 20 checks.
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If you did not make the A team, do not be suckered or pressured to pay on such short notice. They will go down the line and fill the team with any warm bodies they can find. Take your chances finding another A team - trust me, its worth the effort and there are so many alternatives now that theres very little risk that you won't be able to upgrade your son's experience.
Especially if you are 2019 or 2020. Go try out for another group that has an A team that plays in A brackets.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Michael Jordan got cut from his JV team.
Lesson, if your son likes to play, let him keep playing. You never know.
Lesson, if your son likes to play, let him keep playing. You never know.
He was never actually cut. He played JV for a year. Was mad he didn't make varsity.
he was also a sophomore and as we know it was close to impossible to make a team as a sophomore. He was upset not necessarily because he got cut but because they took another player (who was a sophomore) they took him because he was tall and needed the height.
He being cut didn't have anything to do with his skill. He was one of the best in his area. The legend that this has become is so overstated.
The lesson here isn't work harder just - they didn't pick you regardless of your skill
Has anyone gotten an invite to the 2020 teams?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Michael Jordan got cut from his JV team.
Lesson, if your son likes to play, let him keep playing. You never know.
Lesson, if your son likes to play, let him keep playing. You never know.
He was never actually cut. He played JV for a year. Was mad he didn't make varsity.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...
91 about 2400 for fall spring and summer.. Winter indoor league was more and practices were more too... So about the same.
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Don't know what that means but 91 charges basically the same cost for summer give or take $50.00 , they also charge for fallball tournaments and winter and spring league and winter practices as well , if you think 91 cost is all inclusive then you most likely never played for that organization they are all in it for the money no matter what organization.
$1,800 for a single season? LOL. No wonder Team 91 is killing the Express. That is outrageous.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It was 1800 for the summer, if you choose to play fallball which is 3-4 ? Tournaments and fall practices included it was an additional 800 , like anywhere else winter activities you will also pay extra .
$1,800 for a single season? LOL. No wonder Team 91 is killing the Express. That is outrageous.
In for a penny in for a pound. Just find the right coach and it's all worth it. Or not.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't know what that means but 91 charges basically the same cost for summer give or take $50.00 , they also charge for fallball tournaments and winter and spring league and winter practices as well , if you think 91 cost is all inclusive then you most likely never played for that organization they are all in it for the money no matter what organization.
$1,800 for a single season? LOL. No wonder Team 91 is killing the Express. That is outrageous.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It was 1800 for the summer, if you choose to play fallball which is 3-4 ? Tournaments and fall practices included it was an additional 800 , like anywhere else winter activities you will also pay extra .
$1,800 for a single season? LOL. No wonder Team 91 is killing the Express. That is outrageous.
Very True!
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Has anyone gotten an invite to the 2020 teams?
@AngryLaxMom twitter calls out Jamie Munro of 3D and US lacrosse for ignoring holding back players, Munro reacts. its great.
For the A team? Or the B team?
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For the A team? Or the B team?
Probably both. The Terps probably had little turnover. They also most likely contacted the kids they want for their B team (Wolverines) and told them they would get an invite.
If you make the Terps that is a great team. Wolverines, not so much.
Oh because I didn't get any emails
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the A team? Or the B team?
Probably both. The Terps probably had little turnover. They also most likely contacted the kids they want for their B team (Wolverines) and told them they would get an invite.
If you make the Terps that is a great team. Wolverines, not so much.
They will sell them with the, "With the new additions like your son, we will be able to beat most of the other groups A teams". Just like they said last year.
2 years ago their A and B team practiced together and got very similar attention and practiced together. Then the A team parents complained about practicing with the "B" team and last year it was a different deal. Buyer beware.
All invites are out, teams had practice this morning. Or not, I don't belong or know anyone who does. Just making it up like 90% of the crap on here.
Really? Because I haven't gotten any emails yet. Do you happen to know the reason why? Thank you
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All invites are out, teams had practice this morning. Or not, I don't belong or know anyone who does. Just making it up like 90% of the crap on here.
Wow that's low I was thinking 99%
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All invites are out, teams had practice this morning. Or not, I don't belong or know anyone who does. Just making it up like 90% of the crap on here.
LOL!
2022 emails and calls went out, my son made the B team. Pass for us but just letting you know, invites went out
Great first practice for the honey badgers! A few new additions. Maybe enough to to beat the bandits.
Find that funny because I spoke with 5 other 2022's and nobody has received anything.
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2022 emails and calls went out, my son made the B team. Pass for us but just letting you know, invites went out
Attaboy. Unfortunately, right now there are countless others who were "invited" to be on their various aged B teams are sending in deposits to be on teams that Express could care less about. Make sure you give them your deposit to lock up your spot.
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Find that funny because I spoke with 5 other 2022's and nobody has received anything.
invites go out first to A team, then to B then to others. Maybe your 5 are "others" no big deal, if kids decline their spots one eill open for you guys
The Express used to dominate LI. No more.
Haven't received anything for the 2020 age group...
How can you say that when the Bandits haven't even had their tryouts and the Honey Badgers haven't practiced??
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Haven't received anything for the 2020 age group...
Ouch
I highly doubt anything went out.
Anyone on 2021 hear anything?
Haha. Bandits don't need to turn over their roster like the honey badgers. HBs will have competition for the 2nd best 2023 team from Outlaws and Igloos. Lots of talent at this age.
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Real question is how to convince kids that are that talented ("3rd best team") to play for the Express B team when they can presumably make "A" teams at established organizations like Outlaws or Igloo. Why would they settle for 2nd fiddle at Express at this age? Coaching should be everything. Is the "B" team coaching at Express so much better? Who are the coaches going to be? I saw the Honey Badger coaches at tryout but no other coaches. Seems like coaches at 2023 for Outlaws and Igloo are accomplished.
Shaun Moran is coaching the 2nd team. Great coach. He was there the first night but heard he had to leave because his wife had a baby. It's tryouts, the HB coaches are more than capable of picking both teams.
I guess we'll see if that's true come spring. Does your son play on HB's? Are you one of the coaches? If not, what is the basis for your statement that they "turn[ed] over their roster?"
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Haha. Bandits don't need to turn over their roster like the honey badgers. HBs will have competition for the 2nd best 2023 team from Outlaws and Igloos. Lots of talent at this age.
Spallina could care less about the bottom 10 kids on that team. It's a pattern with him on all his teams. Only play the top 10 players which are his kids, coaches kids and a few favorites and rotate out the rest each year just so he fills his required roster. The kids who don't get fair playing time should go elsewhere. It's only 4th grade. Sitting on the bench at 9 yrs old is insane and parents should be ashamed to let it happen.
check their website first - Due to the competitive nature of tryouts, Directors will have teams selected and offer letters out by Monday night
Don't have to be one of the five HB coaches to know that 4 or 5 kids won't be returning. Express does this every year. I think they even dropped some kids mid-season from the badgers.
They have to get them out so everyone can commit next week with a deposit before the other clubs have tryouts.
2019 Express "B" BEAT your so-called Outlaw A team one month ago.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Real question is how to convince kids that are that talented ("3rd best team") to play for the Express B team when they can presumably make "A" teams at established organizations like Outlaws or Igloo. Why would they settle for 2nd fiddle at Express at this age? Coaching should be everything. Is the "B" team coaching at Express so much better? Who are the coaches going to be? I saw the Honey Badger coaches at tryout but no other coaches. Seems like coaches at 2023 for Outlaws and Igloo are accomplished.
Shaun Moran is coaching the 2nd team. Great coach. He was there the first night but heard he had to leave because his wife had a baby. It's tryouts, the HB coaches are more than capable of picking both teams.
What you talking about Willis!
Express 2019 "B" beat Outlaw "A" this summer...
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2019 Express "B" BEAT your so-called Outlaw A team one month ago.
Don't put the 2019 B team with the 2020 B team. 2019 was more competitive.
how much is the tuition
If you have to ask then you shouldn't have tried out. Just a word of advice .
uote=Anonymous]how much is the tuition [/quote]
uote=Anonymous]how much is the tuition [/quote]
sorry, I just was curious. they didn't have it posted and I have been comparing all the programs
Team selections out- 2020 teams
Hurray my daddy bought me my spot again on the 2019 A team . I feel so good about myself.
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Don't have to be one of the five HB coaches to know that 4 or 5 kids won't be returning. Express does this every year. I think they even dropped some kids mid-season from the badgers.
Every kid that was on the team in the Fall was there in June. Based on what I saw at tryouts, what they are potentially adding is going to make them very, very good.
That's just false. At least 1 kid from the Fall dropped to the Barracudas B team in early Spring. Two or three others left/were not on team by June tournaments. It's ok to turn-over the team and drop kids that weren't up to A-team standards or didn't fit with the coaching style. Just be honest about it, dude.
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Hurray my daddy bought me my spot again on the 2019 A team . I feel so good about myself.
What does that mean????
This is not true. One kid voluntarily dropped down to Barracudas. Every other kid finished out the year. Whether or not they all came back is a different story. I don't know why people are constantly stirring the pot on here. There are several good teams at this age group and not every team is a good fit for every kid or family. My son played on the HB's and had a tremendous experience. The kids, families, and coaches were great. He learned a lot about the game and increased his skills tenfold. The coaches were extremely dedicated and were great with the kids. The team was competitive and had a great year. What more could you want from a travel program at this age? I guess if the measuring stick is to beat the Bandits, then the season was a bust. Luckily for those who were actually involved, that was not the sole mission of the year. I was at the tryouts and with the exception of three kids (2 of which were second graders who played up last year), the entire team was at tryouts. This, to me, speaks volumes.
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The Express used to dominate LI. No more.
Because they were greedy with 3 or 4 teams per grade and killed their own golden goose. They struck while the iron was hot and milked it for everything it was worth. But in the process they made the mistake of cheapening the Express brand, pissing off 80% of their customers with a Cadillac price for a Yugo experience on the B or C teams, tarnishing the Express' reputation and attracted competition with better mouse traps. The barriers to entry in this club world are very low and profit pool very deep. Every empire has it's sunset, we're seeing it now with Express.
Invites are out for 2022's.
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This is not true. One kid voluntarily dropped down to Barracudas. Every other kid finished out the year. Whether or not they all came back is a different story. I don't know why people are constantly stirring the pot on here. There are several good teams at this age group and not every team is a good fit for every kid or family. My son played on the HB's and had a tremendous experience. The kids, families, and coaches were great. He learned a lot about the game and increased his skills tenfold. The coaches were extremely dedicated and were great with the kids. The team was competitive and had a great year. What more could you want from a travel program at this age? I guess if the measuring stick is to beat the Bandits, then the season was a bust. Luckily for those who were actually involved, that was not the sole mission of the year. I was at the tryouts and with the exception of three kids (2 of which were second graders who played up last year), the entire team was at tryouts. This, to me, speaks volumes.
Yup and they'll end the season as the best 2023 team around.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hurray my daddy bought me my spot again on the 2019 A team . I feel so good about myself.
What does that mean????
Those in the know know and are probably not surprised. I know some that didn't tryout because of the rumor before hand. Truth be told; If you think he took your spot then you were the last pick anyway. Your better off.
Emails are out for 2021
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't have to be one of the five HB coaches to know that 4 or 5 kids won't be returning. Express does this every year. I think they even dropped some kids mid-season from the badgers.
All the Badgers who made the team in the Fall were there in June. One kid who's Dad is nuts was told not to come back. Two other boys stayed at grade and will play 3rd grade again. The final kid not coming back is taking time off the sport. Great kid and he will be back with the Badgers again.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's just false. At least 1 kid from the Fall dropped to the Barracudas B team in early Spring. Two or three others left/were not on team by June tournaments. It's ok to turn-over the team and drop kids that weren't up to A-team standards or didn't fit with the coaching style. Just be honest about it, dude.
You're wrong Dude. The one move to Baracudas happened very early on. it was a parents choice because he just wasn't skilled enough. Every other kid was with the team all year with the exception of one who went to sleep away camp and missed the last tournament.
THese guys are nuts if they think we are committing to "team 2" before all the other tryouts happen. Good coach but I know for sure he will not be there in the spring. 2020
Originally Posted by Anonymous
THese guys are nuts if they think we are committing to "team 2" before all the other tryouts happen. Good coach but I know for sure he will not be there in the spring. 2020
You paid your tryout fee so they are not nuts!
Have they dropped the names (Terps, Wolverines, etc.) and replaced with Team 1, Team 2 etc? Is it safe to assume Team 1 = A team, Team 2 = B team?
Daddy big bucks should realize that every boy on the team knows the deal. He should also realize that his son is in over his head. With that in mind how do you think Junior will be accepted by his teammates. I guess its all about Daddy telling his friends at work that Junior is on the A team.
A few 2022's bought their way on this team. Amazing how MC will preach about taking the best players and then take undeserving players. Money talks. With this guy if you cry enough MC will give you what you want.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have they dropped the names (Terps, Wolverines, etc.) and replaced with Team 1, Team 2 etc? Is it safe to assume Team 1 = A team, Team 2 = B team?
An Express director told me that they weren't going to have more than 2 teams in any grade this year. Is that true?
Do the research of the teams from last year as I know Barracudas 2021 Played in the A bracket and won A bracket tournament's , that team competed against wolves ,and 91 Heat by 1-2 point loss margin. They beat Legacy A as well as Jesters , they had also a 3rd team as well which was their B team . Its safe to say if you do your research on history of last season's teams you can figure out what best fits the invite. We got a team 2 invite and coming from one of the mentioned teams they competed against we will be committing .I do know they practice all year long and play in alot of tournaments above what express offers
quote=Anonymous]Have they dropped the names (Terps, Wolverines, etc.) and replaced with Team 1, Team 2 etc? Is it safe to assume Team 1 = A team, Team 2 = B team? [/quote]
Did 2020 team 2 emails come out yet???
You knew when try outs for every team would be. Why are you surprised by any of this. Don't commit and let them give your spot to a kid that would be more than happy to play on Express team 2. And before you can say my kid must not have made it, yes, he did.
Did 2020 team 2 emails come out yet??? Sunday they came out. I personally know 3 kids who are also trying out for 91 so I wouldn't assume anything is final yet. Good luck to all making these early decisions.
2022 sent out invites to Team 1, Team 2 and Team 3... Lowered the price for all teams by $500 to $2150.
An Express director told me that they weren't going to have more than 2 teams in any grade this year. Is that true?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have they dropped the names (Terps, Wolverines, etc.) and replaced with Team 1, Team 2 etc? Is it safe to assume Team 1 = A team, Team 2 = B team?
An Express director told me that they weren't going to have more than 2 teams in any grade this year. Is that true?
Then you have to pay for all MC's clinics. This will easily cost over $3,000 when all said and done. Don't forget his spring league also. And winter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 sent out invites to Team 1, Team 2 and Team 3... Lowered the price for all teams by $500 to $2150.
An Express director told me that they weren't going to have more than 2 teams in any grade this year. Is that true?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have they dropped the names (Terps, Wolverines, etc.) and replaced with Team 1, Team 2 etc? Is it safe to assume Team 1 = A team, Team 2 = B team?
An Express director told me that they weren't going to have more than 2 teams in any grade this year. Is that true?
Okay thanks
If you were with Express last year you know a lot of Express 2021 kids were not happy and may not come back. Many were at Igloo Scrimages. Could a deal have made with Igloo to take these kids already? Express Team 2 may be just that a B team. Be careful please. If you get a late email be even more careful.
Do the research of the teams from last year as I know Barracudas 2021 Played in the A bracket and won A bracket tournament's , that team competed against wolves ,and 91 Heat by 1-2 point loss margin. They beat Legacy A as well as Jesters , they had also a 3rd team as well which was their B team . Its safe to say if you do your research on history of last season's teams you can figure out what best fits the invite. We got a team 2 invite and coming from one of the mentioned teams they competed against we will be committing .I do know they practice all year long and play in alot of tournaments above what express offers
quote=Anonymous]Have they dropped the names (Terps, Wolverines, etc.) and replaced with Team 1, Team 2 etc? Is it safe to assume Team 1 = A team, Team 2 = B team? [/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do the research of the teams from last year as I know Barracudas 2021 Played in the A bracket and won A bracket tournament's , that team competed against wolves ,and 91 Heat by 1-2 point loss margin. They beat Legacy A as well as Jesters , they had also a 3rd team as well which was their B team . Its safe to say if you do your research on history of last season's teams you can figure out what best fits the invite. We got a team 2 invite and coming from one of the mentioned teams they competed against we will be committing .I do know they practice all year long and play in alot of tournaments above what express offers
quote=Anonymous]Have they dropped the names (Terps, Wolverines, etc.) and replaced with Team 1, Team 2 etc? Is it safe to assume Team 1 = A team, Team 2 = B team?
The same head coach for both 2020 B and C? How does that work?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
THese guys are nuts if they think we are committing to "team 2" before all the other tryouts happen. Good coach but I know for sure he will not be there in the spring. 2020
There 2020 "Team 2/Wolverines" is not a team to rush on to. Plenty of better options depending on where you live. Suffolk has Legacy A, Nassau has True Blue A and fl$ and the new Igloo team. Try to make one of those teams. Legacy and True Blue both beat Express B on multiple occasions. My kid was on Express B, and we aren't going back. The directors could care less about their B teams.
If you made their Team 1, then it's a no brainer to send in your deposit. They care about that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 sent out invites to Team 1, Team 2 and Team 3... Lowered the price for all teams by $500 to $2150.
An Express director told me that they weren't going to have more than 2 teams in any grade this year. Is that true?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have they dropped the names (Terps, Wolverines, etc.) and replaced with Team 1, Team 2 etc? Is it safe to assume Team 1 = A team, Team 2 = B team?
An Express director told me that they weren't going to have more than 2 teams in any grade this year. Is that true?
Okay thanks
That may be the funnest thing I have ever read on here!!
BS, my son played with Express last year, clinics are optional.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS, my son played with Express last year, clinics are optional.
Yup. Have the stuff said about the Express is far from facts.
2021 has 3 teams as they did last year.
The invites went out today for 2017. I heard some boys made "Team 3," so there will be 3 teams for this grade. Express tried to have 3 teams last year for 2017, but the third team fell apart midway into the summer. Not enough boys, there were maybe 15 on the team.
There were 4 teams for 2017 if you include the Turtles.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 has 3 teams as they did last year.
They won't give up those 3rd teams. They make too much easy money from them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The invites went out today for 2017. I heard some boys made "Team 3," so there will be 3 teams for this grade. Express tried to have 3 teams last year for 2017, but the third team fell apart midway into the summer. Not enough boys, there were maybe 15 on the team.
And I bet that will happen with 2018 this year. They'll end up merging 2 & 3.
If Your On Team 2 go to 91/Outlaws/fl$ try Outs, If your son makes the 1st team with them, its a much better place. If your son is going to catholic school and is not on team one, his odds of every seeing field at St a or Chaminade are very slight. Also Your spot will still be there after this weekend try outs
What does going to a catholic school have to do with an A team or B team in travel As I see most of these tryouts with close to 150 -200 athletes on the field if they are not doing drills to eval the players and they just do scrimmages some players may never really get to show their stuff It all depends on what side of the field the ball plays ect Drills should be the primary look see
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What does going to a catholic school have to do with an A team or B team in travel As I see most of these tryouts with close to 150 -200 athletes on the field if they are not doing drills to eval the players and they just do scrimmages some players may never really get to show their stuff It all depends on what side of the field the ball plays ect Drills should be the primary look see
"What does going to a catholic school have to do with an A tam or B team in travel"??? Seriously? Asking that question on a LIE forum? You must be a newbie...
That's ridiculous. Anyone can look good in drills. It's about how they play in a game. I agree with what you say when there are soooo many kids trying out. They have to come up with a better way, maybe having more than a two day tryout.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BS, my son played with Express last year, clinics are optional.
Ok then. Opt for different/better clinics and see what happens to your son's spot next year. Good luck with that. Optional my @$$.
I think everyone will agree that kids that are on the team the year before will almost always make it even if new kids are better. Kids who have a family member on another team in the program will almost always make it and the kids who are invited down will make it. You have to be so much better then the last kid at any posision to make these team if you were not invited down or don't have a brother in the program. Most A clubs work this way. Im lucky my son has his spot on his team and I don't have to deal with it. Don't feel bad if you did not make it. It means very little.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's ridiculous. Anyone can look good in drills. It's about how they play in a game. I agree with what you say when there are soooo many kids trying out. They have to come up with a better way, maybe having more than a two day tryout.
I did opt out of anything extra last year and guess what? My son made the team again and will play the same position as last year. Next?
Stop spreading false Express nonsense.
Stop spreading false Express nonsense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The invites went out today for 2017. I heard some boys made "Team 3," so there will be 3 teams for this grade. Express tried to have 3 teams last year for 2017, but the third team fell apart midway into the summer. Not enough boys, there were maybe 15 on the team.
Did the 15 diehard families get there thousands back?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I did opt out of anything extra last year and guess what? My son made the team again and will play the same position as last year. Next?
Stop spreading false Express nonsense.
Stop spreading false Express nonsense.
I bet your full of it - you're either on the Express payroll or you've had too much Express Cool Aid. I guess then you would recommend that everybody opt out of everything extra? Why didn't you do any of the extras? Please...
This all has to be true , #1 its posted right here on BOTC , #2 the kids went to Igloo scrimmages ,#3 Express 2 team may now be a B team because the unhappy ones are not coming back Hey thanks for clarifying all of this , we will now commit knowing the unhappy ones are officially gone.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you were with Express last year you know a lot of Express 2021 kids were not happy and may not come back. Many were at Igloo Scrimages. Could a deal have made with Igloo to take these kids already? Express Team 2 may be just that a B team. Be careful please. If you get a late email be even more careful.
Do the research of the teams from last year as I know Barracudas 2021 Played in the A bracket and won A bracket tournament's , that team competed against wolves ,and 91 Heat by 1-2 point loss margin. They beat Legacy A as well as Jesters , they had also a 3rd team as well which was their B team . Its safe to say if you do your research on history of last season's teams you can figure out what best fits the invite. We got a team 2 invite and coming from one of the mentioned teams they competed against we will be committing .I do know they practice all year long and play in alot of tournaments above what express offers
quote=Anonymous]Have they dropped the names (Terps, Wolverines, etc.) and replaced with Team 1, Team 2 etc? Is it safe to assume Team 1 = A team, Team 2 = B team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do the research of the teams from last year as I know Barracudas 2021 Played in the A bracket and won A bracket tournament's , that team competed against wolves ,and 91 Heat by 1-2 point loss margin. They beat Legacy A as well as Jesters , they had also a 3rd team as well which was their B team . Its safe to say if you do your research on history of last season's teams you can figure out what best fits the invite. We got a team 2 invite and coming from one of the mentioned teams they competed against we will be committing .I do know they practice all year long and play in alot of tournaments above what express offers
quote=Anonymous]Have they dropped the names (Terps, Wolverines, etc.) and replaced with Team 1, Team 2 etc? Is it safe to assume Team 1 = A team, Team 2 = B team?
As a parent of a child that made the 2022 team #1, I am concerned that I am hearing they took 30 kids for that team!!!! How much playing time will they get with that many kids on the team? Can anyone confirm this?
Don't be surprised if you show up and it is 40+ and then try to make additional teams because of all the interest. Check the 2018 thread on this one.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent of a child that made the 2022 team #1, I am concerned that I am hearing they took 30 kids for that team!!!! How much playing time will they get with that many kids on the team? Can anyone confirm this?
With anything more than 23 players the playing time gets very tight for most.
Hi all! Does anyone know if all the letters are out for all teams?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent of a child that made the 2022 team #1, I am concerned that I am hearing they took 30 kids for that team!!!! How much playing time will they get with that many kids on the team? Can anyone confirm this?
I have to laugh at the way people react to post on this site. Don't believe everything you read. If you have concerns call MC. Not sure why you would post here?
Also filled out that 30 man roster with players whose fathers kissed @$$ to get on the team. Took spots over deserving kids. Same old same old with MC. Seriously considering passing on this team. Igloo or 91 might be a better spot for my son. And please don't tell me that's it's not true, we all know who they are on the team. Going to be tough getting everyone playing time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Also filled out that 30 man roster with players whose fathers kissed @$$ to get on the team. Took spots over deserving kids. Same old same old with MC. Seriously considering passing on this team. Igloo or 91 might be a better spot for my son. And please don't tell me that's it's not true, we all know who they are on the team. Going to be tough getting everyone playing time.
You really think it's going to be different with these other teams. Trust me, it ain't!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The same head coach for both 2020 B and C? How does that work?
Combined practices?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The same head coach for both 2020 B and C? How does that work?
Combined practices?
Run, don't walk away.
I am not on the Express payroll nor do I drink any cool aid (such a dumb saying). I did not do any extras last season because I cannot afford to do any extras. My son made the team again fair and square, he had a very good 2 day tryout.
Straight up and honest, unlike the usual posting on here.
Straight up and honest, unlike the usual posting on here.
Do your homework. On the 2021 teams kids sat on the bench with a normal size roster. Pay all that money not to play. Same kids on the field most of the time. Ask around. You don't have to believe BOTC. It is well known. They keep filling those 14 to 24 spots with kids that just want to say they play for Express. I hope it does not happen this year. Good luck.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do your homework. On the 2021 teams kids sat on the bench with a normal size roster. Pay all that money not to play. Same kids on the field most of the time. Ask around. You don't have to believe BOTC. It is well known. They keep filling those 14 to 24 spots with kids that just want to say they play for Express. I hope it does not happen this year. Good luck.
Is this on team 1,2,3 or all of the above? Got an invite for Team 3. Not sure what to do.
That sounds more like the Wolves , I know Barracudas played everyone on that team and that's why there was unhappy parents that apparently went over to the Wolves this upcoming season. but if you go dollar for dollar you get more bang for your buck and competed against other program top tier teams including against the Wolves , so yes do your homework like we did.
Is this on team 1,2,3 or all of the above? Got an invite for Team 3. Not sure what to do.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do your homework. On the 2021 teams kids sat on the bench with a normal size roster. Pay all that money not to play. Same kids on the field most of the time. Ask around. You don't have to believe BOTC. It is well known. They keep filling those 14 to 24 spots with kids that just want to say they play for Express. I hope it does not happen this year. Good luck.
Is this on team 1,2,3 or all of the above? Got an invite for Team 3. Not sure what to do.
I have heard many kids didn't get an email yet, what are they waiting for. Tell the boys that didn't make the team already! Why are you letting them hang on so long.
they are waiting to see who declines their invitation
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent of a child that made the 2022 team #1, I am concerned that I am hearing they took 30 kids for that team!!!! How much playing time will they get with that many kids on the team? Can anyone confirm this?
30 kids on a roster. Two are goalies. Games are 40 minutes in length, do the math on playing time. NOT GOOD!! I'm going elsewhere!!
Played the 2019 Wolverines last year. On a saturday the lineup was MUCH different then on a Sunday Extra kids bought down to play. With 30+ kids on the sidelines some kids didn't touch the field.
I'd be pretty pissed to drive 3 hours to NOT PLAY!
I guess trying to WIM means everything. To bad they lost!
I'd be pretty pissed to drive 3 hours to NOT PLAY!
I guess trying to WIM means everything. To bad they lost!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard many kids didn't get an email yet, what are they waiting for. Tell the boys that didn't make the team already! Why are you letting them hang on so long.
Why does every organization has this type of email. if you didn't her yet you may be "Wait listed". Hang tight or go to another try out. I know it is hard but it is what it is.
When they get rejections they will move a kid from team 2 to team 1, then move a kid from team 3 to team 2 then take the kid that has no team and put him on team 3. So depending on how many kids reject the kids will be promoted to new teams and everyone is happy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard many kids didn't get an email yet, what are they waiting for. Tell the boys that didn't make the team already! Why are you letting them hang on so long.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard many kids didn't get an email yet, what are they waiting for. Tell the boys that didn't make the team already! Why are you letting them hang on so long.
Why does every organization has this type of email. if you didn't her yet you may be "Wait listed". Hang tight or go to another try out. I know it is hard but it is what it is.
Then send an email out stating that, they send out a 100 emails asking you to come to tryouts. Keep people informed...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When they get rejections they will move a kid from team 2 to team 1, then move a kid from team 3 to team 2 then take the kid that has no team and put him on team 3. So depending on how many kids reject the kids will be promoted to new teams and everyone is happy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard many kids didn't get an email yet, what are they waiting for. Tell the boys that didn't make the team already! Why are you letting them hang on so long.
And then, they will take 2 teams and combine them into one and tell the parents they are all an A team and then go behind each other's backs and pick certain kids to play at one tournament and others at the other...And this goes on and on and on over the years. And parents will continue to pay and then come on this site and complain and go on and on and on. Its like Ground Hog Day!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The same head coach for both 2020 B and C? How does that work?
Combined practices?
Run, don't walk away.
A rather important fact which was not revealed until AFTER tryout results come out. Beforehand it was "we don't know yet."
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When they get rejections they will move a kid from team 2 to team 1, then move a kid from team 3 to team 2 then take the kid that has no team and put him on team 3. So depending on how many kids reject the kids will be promoted to new teams and everyone is happy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard many kids didn't get an email yet, what are they waiting for. Tell the boys that didn't make the team already! Why are you letting them hang on so long.
And then, they will take 2 teams and combine them into one and tell the parents they are all an A team and then go behind each other's backs and pick certain kids to play at one tournament and others at the other...And this goes on and on and on over the years. And parents will continue to pay and then come on this site and complain and go on and on and on. Its like Ground Hog Day!
What age or all ages??
I'm sure they know how many kids will decline the invite.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When they get rejections they will move a kid from team 2 to team 1, then move a kid from team 3 to team 2 then take the kid that has no team and put him on team 3. So depending on how many kids reject the kids will be promoted to new teams and everyone is happy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard many kids didn't get an email yet, what are they waiting for. Tell the boys that didn't make the team already! Why are you letting them hang on so long.
So you are saying a kid could get an email saying he is on Team 3, have no contact with Express, and then a few days later get a similar email saying he is on Team 2?
Yes...or a phone call. It happened last year. But the kid that I know did not play on the higher team so you have to think about it before you accept.
So you are saying a kid could get an email saying he is on Team 3, have no contact with Express, and then a few days later get a similar email saying he is on Team 2?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When they get rejections they will move a kid from team 2 to team 1, then move a kid from team 3 to team 2 then take the kid that has no team and put him on team 3. So depending on how many kids reject the kids will be promoted to new teams and everyone is happy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard many kids didn't get an email yet, what are they waiting for. Tell the boys that didn't make the team already! Why are you letting them hang on so long.
So you are saying a kid could get an email saying he is on Team 3, have no contact with Express, and then a few days later get a similar email saying he is on Team 2?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When they get rejections they will move a kid from team 2 to team 1, then move a kid from team 3 to team 2 then take the kid that has no team and put him on team 3. So depending on how many kids reject the kids will be promoted to new teams and everyone is happy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard many kids didn't get an email yet, what are they waiting for. Tell the boys that didn't make the team already! Why are you letting them hang on so long.
I w i l l t a l k s l o w e r s o y o u u n d e r s t a n d - theysendouttheinvitationstotheA-B-CteamsandtrytolockupasmanykidsaspossibleiftheygetkidsthatmadetheAteambutturnitdowntheinvitationthewillinvitekidsthatoriginallymadetheBteamtotheAteamandkidsfromtheCteamtotheBteamandthenextendaninvitationtoakidthatdidnotinitiallymakeateam.
So you are saying a kid could get an email saying he is on Team 3, have no contact with Express, and then a few days later get a similar email saying he is on Team 2?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is not true. One kid voluntarily dropped down to Barracudas. Every other kid finished out the year. Whether or not they all came back is a different story. I don't know why people are constantly stirring the pot on here. There are several good teams at this age group and not every team is a good fit for every kid or family. My son played on the HB's and had a tremendous experience. The kids, families, and coaches were great. He learned a lot about the game and increased his skills tenfold. The coaches were extremely dedicated and were great with the kids. The team was competitive and had a great year. What more could you want from a travel program at this age? I guess if the measuring stick is to beat the Bandits, then the season was a bust. Luckily for those who were actually involved, that was not the sole mission of the year. I was at the tryouts and with the exception of three kids (2 of which were second graders who played up last year), the entire team was at tryouts. This, to me, speaks volumes.
Yup and they'll end the season as the best 2023 team around.
And that does what for them exactly??? Better ALL the kids had a great experience than just 7 or 8 of them. With the exception of the one kid who was asked not to return; every Badger player returned this year for Tryouts; can't say the same for Bandits. Speaks volumes!!!
Did the Honey Badgers really ask a 9 year old kid to leave the team because of his Dad? I thought this was about the kids? That, to me, speaks volumes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the Honey Badgers really ask a 9 year old kid to leave the team because of his Dad? I thought this was about the kids? That, to me, speaks volumes.
No idea if this particular instance is true but you are nave if you do not think parents and their conduct can get kids cut from teams - and that goes for all teams. If the kid is Paul Rabil then maybe they put up with the toolbag parent but not for most kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the Honey Badgers really ask a 9 year old kid to leave the team because of his Dad? I thought this was about the kids? That, to me, speaks volumes.
Nope. Not true. Leave it at that. How about every Badger at the tryout was invited back for 2014/2015. That speaks volumes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the Honey Badgers really ask a 9 year old kid to leave the team because of his Dad? I thought this was about the kids? That, to me, speaks volumes.
Nope. Not true. Leave it at that. How about every Badger at the tryout was invited back for 2014/2015. That speaks volumes.
Does speak volumes, suggests they will not be as competitive if everyone else upgraded.
right. B/c they dropped the kids they didn't want before tryouts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do your homework. On the 2021 teams kids sat on the bench with a normal size roster. Pay all that money not to play. Same kids on the field most of the time. Ask around. You don't have to believe BOTC. It is well known. They keep filling those 14 to 24 spots with kids that just want to say they play for Express. I hope it does not happen this year. Good luck.
Is this on team 1,2,3 or all of the above? Got an invite for Team 3. Not sure what to do.
Unless you have money and a year to waste, run as fast as you can.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the Honey Badgers really ask a 9 year old kid to leave the team because of his Dad? I thought this was about the kids? That, to me, speaks volumes.
Nope. Not true. Leave it at that. How about every Badger at the tryout was invited back for 2014/2015. That speaks volumes.
Does speak volumes, suggests they will not be as competitive if everyone else upgraded.
You're correct. They are going to be less competitive... Not
Run Run as fast as you can to 91 tryouts , they will take everyone with the many organizations they have under their umbrella , team will be so watered down and you will still pay full price .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do your homework. On the 2021 teams kids sat on the bench with a normal size roster. Pay all that money not to play. Same kids on the field most of the time. Ask around. You don't have to believe BOTC. It is well known. They keep filling those 14 to 24 spots with kids that just want to say they play for Express. I hope it does not happen this year. Good luck.
Is this on team 1,2,3 or all of the above? Got an invite for Team 3. Not sure what to do.
Unless you have money and a year to waste, run as fast as you can.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Do your homework. On the 2021 teams kids sat on the bench with a normal size roster. Pay all that money not to play. Same kids on the field most of the time. Ask around. You don't have to believe BOTC. It is well known. They keep filling those 14 to 24 spots with kids that just want to say they play for Express. I hope it does not happen this year. Good luck.
Is this on team 1,2,3 or all of the above? Got an invite for Team 3. Not sure what to do.
Did they say this is Team 3 or that you are on our B team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Do your homework. On the 2021 teams kids sat on the bench with a normal size roster. Pay all that money not to play. Same kids on the field most of the time. Ask around. You don't have to believe BOTC. It is well known. They keep filling those 14 to 24 spots with kids that just want to say they play for Express. I hope it does not happen this year. Good luck.
Is this on team 1,2,3 or all of the above? Got an invite for Team 3. Not sure what to do.
Did they say this is Team 3 or that you are on our B team
Team 3
With MC, Team 3 might be the B team or possibly the A team. Also might be a D team but probably will not be the C team. That's to obvious.
I think Team 3 isn't even on the radar...We got Team 2 but will prob take a pass..
whats even better is when same head coach is listed for team 2 and team 3 --- Express you have some explaining to do! Especially with your 9/4 date in the email and 30 kids. And I did email them, waiting on response.
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
It's a shell game. The three card monte of travel lacrosse!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
whats even better is when same head coach is listed for team 2 and team 3 --- Express you have some explaining to do! Especially with your 9/4 date in the email and 30 kids. And I did email them, waiting on response.
What age group has the same coach listed for Teams 2 & 3? Who is the coach?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
They don't tell you what team you are on, but they do tell you who your coach will be. Does anyone know who each 2021 coach is?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think Team 3 isn't even on the radar...We got Team 2 but will prob take a pass..
Isn't it supposed to be about what your child wants to do? And if they are not on the A team, give the kids that made the B team something to strive for - a spot on the A team in the future. Remember, these kids are 10-11 years old. They still have a lot of growing, learning, maturing, etc., to do. It is just crazy how out of control all of this has gotten.
any word on 2023 , so sad and . unprofessional to leave parents and . worse kids hanging on , like this.
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
Did they split the wolves and Cudas even or did the best 23 go to one team and the next best 23 go to the other team? Also which team is team 1? If anyone knows please tell us.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
what do you think...
Originally Posted by Strider
any word on 2023 , so sad and . unprofessional to leave parents and . worse kids hanging on , like this.
2023 HBrs and Team 2 invites are out. More spots could open on team 2 if parent don't put down deposit by end of the week. If you haven't heard you're on the wait list.
Heard both teams stayed the same for the better part adding and subtracting players to improve both teams equally
quote=Anonymous]Did they split the wolves and Cudas even or did the best 23 go to one team and the next best 23 go to the other team? Also which team is team 1? If anyone knows please tell us.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Strider
any word on 2023 , so sad and . unprofessional to leave parents and . worse kids hanging on , like this.
2023 HBrs and Team 2 invites are out. More spots could open on team 2 if parent don't put down deposit by end of the week. If you haven't heard you're on the wait list.
That's awful! Put on a wait list you know nothing about! Very poor!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Strider
any word on 2023 , so sad and . unprofessional to leave parents and . worse kids hanging on , like this.
2023 HBrs and Team 2 invites are out. More spots could open on team 2 if parent don't put down deposit by end of the week. If you haven't heard you're on the wait list.
That's awful! Put on a wait list you know nothing about! Very poor!
Why is a waiting list awful? You didn't make the first cut but you may still have a chance to prove yourself. it is what it is.
if you don't like it move on already you weren't on their first list so how do you think you'll mesh on the team as a call form the "Second list"
Was at tryouts, if so they certainly use team two as a credit card. Elsewhere for sure. Not getting response is unprofessional at best.
Where does EXPRESS practice ? Both A and B teams practice together - separately ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where does EXPRESS practice ? Both A and B teams practice together - separately ?
Practice separate. Fall practice at kellenberg, st a's. Spring at st a's or ny tech
Kellenberg - that's located in Uniondale across from the Nassau Coliseum?
has the 2022 been picked haven't heard any talk for that age ,did they lose there top players as predicted ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kellenberg - that's located in Uniondale across from the Nassau Coliseum?
yes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kellenberg - that's located in Uniondale across from the Nassau Coliseum?
Correct.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
has the 2022 been picked haven't heard any talk for that age ,did they lose there top players as predicted ?
They was plenty of chatter. Bottom line is they will be way better than last year. My opinion, so let's wait till they play some teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
They don't tell you what team you are on, but they do tell you who your coach will be. Does anyone know who each 2021 coach is?
Isn't it the consumer's right to know what product they are buying? So you made team 1 but that could turn out to be a B team or the C team? I would not give my check to any organization that is not 100 percent up front with how my kid performed and placed. Tell it like it is- A, B or C. Good luck to all- remember there are plenty of try outs this week end!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
OMG!!! Its the same thing over and over and over every year! There are NOT 2 A teams, there never are. this is the year they will start by telling you that, then pull certain kids after the first few practices and then (behind everyone's backs) form a AA team and leave the rest of the kids on a mediocre team. If you go back through the past few years the exact posts were written regarding the exact same thing and parents are still paying them and shaking their heads in amazement when it happens to their kid. BEWARE!!
Reach out to any 2016 Barracuda parent and ask them about there experience up to and including last year. That group has disbanded over the manner in which things were done
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
OMG!!! Its the same thing over and over and over every year! There are NOT 2 A teams, there never are. this is the year they will start by telling you that, then pull certain kids after the first few practices and then (behind everyone's backs) form a AA team and leave the rest of the kids on a mediocre team. If you go back through the past few years the exact posts were written regarding the exact same thing and parents are still paying them and shaking their heads in amazement when it happens to their kid. BEWARE!!
Why couldn't you post this before the payment was due.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
OMG!!! Its the same thing over and over and over every year! There are NOT 2 A teams, there never are. this is the year they will start by telling you that, then pull certain kids after the first few practices and then (behind everyone's backs) form a AA team and leave the rest of the kids on a mediocre team. If you go back through the past few years the exact posts were written regarding the exact same thing and parents are still paying them and shaking their heads in amazement when it happens to their kid. BEWARE!!
This organization does not compete....Stay away. It has lost its way...Not one age group is considered a dominate team. Period.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
OMG!!! Its the same thing over and over and over every year! There are NOT 2 A teams, there never are. this is the year they will start by telling you that, then pull certain kids after the first few practices and then (behind everyone's backs) form a AA team and leave the rest of the kids on a mediocre team. If you go back through the past few years the exact posts were written regarding the exact same thing and parents are still paying them and shaking their heads in amazement when it happens to their kid. BEWARE!!
This organization does not compete....Stay away. It has lost its way...Not one age group is considered a dominate team. Period.
It's hysterical how so many parents feel good when the organizations tell them that they will have 2 A teams in the same age group. This is just to keep the parents happy! There is an A and B team if there are more than 1 team plain and simple.
I have yet to see ANY program EQUALLY split up all of the best players in an age group. It just doesn't happen.
I have yet to see ANY program EQUALLY split up all of the best players in an age group. It just doesn't happen.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
OMG!!! Its the same thing over and over and over every year! There are NOT 2 A teams, there never are. this is the year they will start by telling you that, then pull certain kids after the first few practices and then (behind everyone's backs) form a AA team and leave the rest of the kids on a mediocre team. If you go back through the past few years the exact posts were written regarding the exact same thing and parents are still paying them and shaking their heads in amazement when it happens to their kid. BEWARE!!
This organization does not compete....Stay away. It has lost its way...Not one age group is considered a dominate team. Period.
Disagree. I don't have a kid on 2020 Terps, but after Crush I think they are considered by many to be one of the very best teams around. Certainly they do more than just compete.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
OMG!!! Its the same thing over and over and over every year! There are NOT 2 A teams, there never are. this is the year they will start by telling you that, then pull certain kids after the first few practices and then (behind everyone's backs) form a AA team and leave the rest of the kids on a mediocre team. If you go back through the past few years the exact posts were written regarding the exact same thing and parents are still paying them and shaking their heads in amazement when it happens to their kid. BEWARE!!
This organization does not compete....Stay away. It has lost its way...Not one age group is considered a dominate team. Period.
Not so - the 2018 top team is a dominant team with only 91 Extreme arguably better on Long Island. Extreme beat Express in overtime in the championship game at Adrenaline
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
OMG!!! Its the same thing over and over and over every year! There are NOT 2 A teams, there never are. this is the year they will start by telling you that, then pull certain kids after the first few practices and then (behind everyone's backs) form a AA team and leave the rest of the kids on a mediocre team. If you go back through the past few years the exact posts were written regarding the exact same thing and parents are still paying them and shaking their heads in amazement when it happens to their kid. BEWARE!!
Why couldn't you post this before the payment was due.
Seriously? There's pages and pages on here warning the same thing.
Let me guess 91 parent , 91 tryouts , hope to sway a good player parent on the fence to come this weekend because express beat your organization to the punch . Doesn't compete? really? please tell what team either of the express teams didn't compete with?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
OMG!!! Its the same thing over and over and over every year! There are NOT 2 A teams, there never are. this is the year they will start by telling you that, then pull certain kids after the first few practices and then (behind everyone's backs) form a AA team and leave the rest of the kids on a mediocre team. If you go back through the past few years the exact posts were written regarding the exact same thing and parents are still paying them and shaking their heads in amazement when it happens to their kid. BEWARE!!
This organization does not compete....Stay away. It has lost its way...Not one age group is considered a dominate team. Period.
I think Express is great and my son passed for another "A" team but I think I remember the Cudas lost to a team that is not considered an "A" team at Shamrock. If you look at that facebook page whers the photo of the boards were posted all the scores are there. I will have to check if anyone denys they lost.
Let me guess 91 parent , 91 tryouts , hope to sway a good player parent on the fence to come this weekend because express beat your organization to the punch . Doesn't compete? really? please tell what team either of the express teams didn't compete with?
OMG!!! Its the same thing over and over and over every year! There are NOT 2 A teams, there never are. this is the year they will start by telling you that, then pull certain kids after the first few practices and then (behind everyone's backs) form a AA team and leave the rest of the kids on a mediocre team. If you go back through the past few years the exact posts were written regarding the exact same thing and parents are still paying them and shaking their heads in amazement when it happens to their kid. BEWARE!!
This organization does not compete....Stay away. It has lost its way...Not one age group is considered a dominate team. Period.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let me guess 91 parent , 91 tryouts , hope to sway a good player parent on the fence to come this weekend because express beat your organization to the punch . Doesn't compete? really? please tell what team either of the express teams didn't compete with?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
OMG!!! Its the same thing over and over and over every year! There are NOT 2 A teams, there never are. this is the year they will start by telling you that, then pull certain kids after the first few practices and then (behind everyone's backs) form a AA team and leave the rest of the kids on a mediocre team. If you go back through the past few years the exact posts were written regarding the exact same thing and parents are still paying them and shaking their heads in amazement when it happens to their kid. BEWARE!!
This organization does not compete....Stay away. It has lost its way...Not one age group is considered a dominate team. Period.
Idk about younger teams competing. All I know is the 2 even A team promise has been going on over and over for years. The stress and competitiveness between the parents on the sidelines (&on this forum) on their own team is a nightmare. Been there, done that and walked away (& my kid was on the AA team) away too much politics and lies for my kid to be involved in. Good luck wherever your kid ends up, consider yourself warned.
Hilarious. Shamrock? Really?
Isn't that the tournament of testing the waters for all teams for the coming summer season?
Boy you must be sublimally trying to boost your sons team without shouting out where your from,sort of make yourself feel better about going another year with a team that was probrally beat by the Cudas later on in the season . Lol..you need a shrink bruh especially if your referring back to 10/11 year old lacrosse and then actually check to see if anyone denys ?? does that mean Igloo is not competitive ?? They actually lost in the Shamrock ..
uote=Anonymous]I think Express is great and my son passed for another "A" team but I think I remember the Cudas lost to a team that is not considered an "A" team at Shamrock. If you look at that facebook page whers the photo of the boards were posted all the scores are there. I will have to check if anyone denys they lost.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let me guess 91 parent , 91 tryouts , hope to sway a good player parent on the fence to come this weekend because express beat your organization to the punch . Doesn't compete? really? please tell what team either of the express teams didn't compete with?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you made the wolves or cudas in the 2021 bracket this year they are both A teams as they were last year , except it was made official by express that this year there is 2 A teams for the 6th grade , these two teams are worth committing as they both compete with the same intensity and have committed players and coaching , there was a B/C team as well but didn't hear anything on that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
OMG!!! Its the same thing over and over and over every year! There are NOT 2 A teams, there never are. this is the year they will start by telling you that, then pull certain kids after the first few practices and then (behind everyone's backs) form a AA team and leave the rest of the kids on a mediocre team. If you go back through the past few years the exact posts were written regarding the exact same thing and parents are still paying them and shaking their heads in amazement when it happens to their kid. BEWARE!!
This organization does not compete....Stay away. It has lost its way...Not one age group is considered a dominate team. Period.
To the "Hilarious. Shamrock? Really?" poster Your a funny mom. I said I thought Express was great and I still say both teams are. Why such an angry reply???? Sorry you felt you had to come back like that. They lost to a "B" team. OK get over it. Not a big deal. The truth is the truth.Sorry it hurt so much. I hope this does not offend you but since you mentioned my son his team did not loose to a "B" team last year. I don't know why you would bring a 10 year old in the conversation. Yes he is 10 playing "A" 2021. Good luck this season and I will laugh about your post with my friends on Express!
That Mom who posted "Hilarious. Shamrock? Really?" is a joker. It can't be a real post from an Express parent. Igloo lost to another "A" team not a "B" team. Not the same. "A" teams don't get beat by "B" teams even at shamrock. All Express parents would agree with that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To the "Hilarious. Shamrock? Really?" poster Your a funny mom. I said I thought Express was great and I still say both teams are. Why such an angry reply???? Sorry you felt you had to come back like that. They lost to a "B" team. OK get over it. Not a big deal. The truth is the truth.Sorry it hurt so much. I hope this does not offend you but since you mentioned my son his team did not loose to a "B" team last year. I don't know why you would bring a 10 year old in the conversation. Yes he is 10 playing "A" 2021. Good luck this season and I will laugh about your post with my friends on Express!
What A team did either 2021 Express teams beat? Don't say Icon or the Jesters because they are not A teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
That's insane. How could any business ask for you to pay for something that you have no idea what you are getting until after you pay. Criminal. How this club stays in business the way they treat their customers is beyond me.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What A team did either 2021 Express teams beat? Don't say Icon or the Jesters because they are not A teams.
Icon is an A team.
Icon is A minus. I think Wolves beat them at the Hub in the Winter. Did either 2021 team beat any A teams in the Spring or Summer? I would be shocked if the answer is no but I don't recall them beating an A team.
Icon is an A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What A team did either 2021 Express teams beat? Don't say Icon or the Jesters because they are not A teams.
Icon is an A team.
The Wolves beat Legacy "A" ,Patriots, Worrier Elite 2021/22 and 802 Lacrosse to get to the final 4 at Lax fest. Altough earlier in the season they got beat by the Outlaws and tied the Jesters they later came back to beat the Jeters and played 91 tight at Laxfest. You don't have to beat an "A" team to be an "A" team. Just have to be in the games in the "A" bracket. They were in all these games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Icon is A minus. I think Wolves beat them at the Hub in the Winter. Did either 2021 team beat any A teams in the Spring or Summer? I would be shocked if the answer is no but I don't recall them beating an A team.
Icon is an A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What A team did either 2021 Express teams beat? Don't say Icon or the Jesters because they are not A teams.
Icon is an A team.
To be honest and the parent who is on the defensive with Icon orange will know the truth, Icon beat up the wolves and Barracudas beat up on Icon orange pretty good in Indoor which doesn't say much being indoor is a different game all together , but give credit when it's do, if I recall we played both teams one in the Hub and one out in Smithtown .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Icon is A minus. I think Wolves beat them at the Hub in the Winter. Did either 2021 team beat any A teams in the Spring or Summer? I would be shocked if the answer is no but I don't recall them beating an A team.
Icon is an A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What A team did either 2021 Express teams beat? Don't say Icon or the Jesters because they are not A teams.
Icon is an A team.
So indoors Cudas beat Icon and outdoors Spring Icon beat Wolves. The Mom that posted above said that Shamrock does not count. Does that mean that the Hub Winter league does not count eliminating the Cudas win over Icon? I remeber the Wolves parents were on BOTC bragging about that winter win but they want us to forget about losses to B teams in the Spring. Funny stuff. Express has sold this Cuda team as an A team. I hope the parents asked quesions before they paid for an A team.
te=Anonymous]To be honest and the parent who is on the defensive with Icon orange will know the truth, Icon beat up the wolves and Barracudas beat up on Icon orange pretty good in Indoor which doesn't say much being indoor is a different game all together , but give credit when it's do, if I recall we played both teams one in the Hub and one out in Smithtown .
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te=Anonymous]To be honest and the parent who is on the defensive with Icon orange will know the truth, Icon beat up the wolves and Barracudas beat up on Icon orange pretty good in Indoor which doesn't say much being indoor is a different game all together , but give credit when it's do, if I recall we played both teams one in the Hub and one out in Smithtown .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Icon is A minus. I think Wolves beat them at the Hub in the Winter. Did either 2021 team beat any A teams in the Spring or Summer? I would be shocked if the answer is no but I don't recall them beating an A team.
Icon is an A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What A team did either 2021 Express teams beat? Don't say Icon or the Jesters because they are not A teams.
Icon is an A team.
Can we all be real here and on every other page? These are kids! Stop trying to live through your little Johnny. Let's the kids play, let them compete, let them win, lose or tie! Let them live their lives and do what they want. Then let them trash talk, if they choose to. Seems to me that most problems are coming from the parents being unhappy. Keep pushing the young ones to do what you want and they will burn out.
Every year kids change. Some get better, some get worse and some stay the same.
As far as slamming every club possible on this sight, remember this - each experience is different. Get off the sight, stop bad mouthing everything and every club, and go ask your kid which team HE wants to play for!
Every year kids change. Some get better, some get worse and some stay the same.
As far as slamming every club possible on this sight, remember this - each experience is different. Get off the sight, stop bad mouthing everything and every club, and go ask your kid which team HE wants to play for!
Hear alot of the wolves are not returning next season alot of talk of a chunk of their top players going to legacy many at their free clinic for a look , so Cudas may just be that A team afterall.Sucks for the ones who jumped ship from pthet teams to get on that one .
2021 Express Helmets are at many tryouts. I can't believe how many left. The tryout I was at had about 10 to 15 Express helmets and they were not the C team. Heard other tryouts had Express kids as well. An OK player from our PAL made the Wolves. It will be interesting to see if they have any A teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hear alot of the wolves are not returning next season alot of talk of a chunk of their top players going to legacy many at their free clinic for a look , so Cudas may just be that A team afterall.Sucks for the ones who jumped ship from pthet teams to get on that one .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 Express Helmets are at many tryouts. I can't believe how many left. The tryout I was at had about 10 to 15 Express helmets and they were not the C team. Heard other tryouts had Express kids as well. An OK player from our PAL made the Wolves. It will be interesting to see if they have any A teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hear alot of the wolves are not returning next season alot of talk of a chunk of their top players going to legacy many at their free clinic for a look , so Cudas may just be that A team afterall.Sucks for the ones who jumped ship from pthet teams to get on that one .
Keep stirring that pot, somebody will bite..
There are no game changers on express 2021 wolves to cares were they go. Well except the 3 coaches kids. Lol
Does anyone know which team all these 2021 Express kids are from that are trying out for higher level teams? I saw them at Igloo games a couple of weeks ago and saw the same kids at another tryout today.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are no game changers on express 2021 wolves to cares were they go. Well except the 3 coaches kids. Lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are no game changers on express 2021 wolves to cares were they go. Well except the 3 coaches kids. Lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are no game changers on express 2021 wolves to cares were they go. Well except the 3 coaches kids. Lol
Didn't they lose to a 2022 team last year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we all be real here and on every other page? These are kids! Stop trying to live through your little Johnny. Let's the kids play, let them compete, let them win, lose or tie! Let them live their lives and do what they want. Then let them trash talk, if they choose to. Seems to me that most problems are coming from the parents being unhappy. Keep pushing the young ones to do what you want and they will burn out.
Every year kids change. Some get better, some get worse and some stay the same.
As far as slamming every club possible on this sight, remember this - each experience is different. Get off the sight, stop bad mouthing everything and every club, and go ask your kid which team HE wants to play for!
Every year kids change. Some get better, some get worse and some stay the same.
As far as slamming every club possible on this sight, remember this - each experience is different. Get off the sight, stop bad mouthing everything and every club, and go ask your kid which team HE wants to play for!
Well said, son. (I am neither an FBI Profiler, nor clairvoyant. Shall we say that it's a little obvious?)
What's the deal with 2022 express? How are they going to be? Know of a few kids that did not make the team this year. Also know of a few that turned down express. Heard a few of the better kids did not come back at all. What's the outlook for this team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's the deal with 2022 express? How are they going to be? Know of a few kids that did not make the team this year. Also know of a few that turned down express. Heard a few of the better kids did not come back at all. What's the outlook for this team?
They are going to be horrible, as usual.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that they are not saying who the A,B, or C teams are until after the first installment is paid. If you are wondering I would try to get in direct contact with Express. Remember last year they had 2 A teams and one B. If you got the B team I suggest you go elsewhere. Good luck to all.
That's insane. How could any business ask for you to pay for something that you have no idea what you are getting until after you pay. Criminal. How this club stays in business the way they treat their customers is beyond me.
They will do whatever they think they can get away with when it comes to insane parents. It's the parents that allow and facilitate this bad behavior by the express. Who in their right mind would pay bug money in the "real world" for something that they had no idea what was behind door number 1 2 or 3. Good luck with that you bunch of suckers.
Chances are the ones you saw yesterday are the same kids who test the waters on every travel program on long Island , just like 91 kids on the 2021 level were all trying out for other programs wearing their town helmets , we had seen the same kids so far at two other previous ptogram tryouts . It happens with every team and even the best of the players always look elsewhere . as always it's the parents who create that complex and paint that picture of greener grounds elsewhere .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know which team all these 2021 Express kids are from that are trying out for higher level teams? I saw them at Igloo games a couple of weeks ago and saw the same kids at another tryout today.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are no game changers on express 2021 wolves to cares were they go. Well except the 3 coaches kids. Lol
How many 2020 teams are there this year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 2020 teams are there this year?
3
The B and C teams will not be strong.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 2020 teams are there this year?
3
The B and C teams will not be strong.
They haven't even finalized these teams, much less had a practice or played a game......so you are talking out of your a$$ at this point.
So not true
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 2020 teams are there this year?
3
The B and C teams will not be strong.
That's as predictable as the sun will come up tomorrow. Not exactly "a stretch".
Has anyone heard from Express about the 2025 boys tryout?
They had less than 10 kids that they were certain on. Will do another round of tryouts after the other big guys are done.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's the deal with 2022 express? How are they going to be? Know of a few kids that did not make the team this year. Also know of a few that turned down express. Heard a few of the better kids did not come back at all. What's the outlook for this team?
They will be very good, how good? Let's wait and see them play vs the top 2 teams. Ignore all the noise that you are reading because if you turned down a spot because of it, you'll very upset after you see them play. I doubt anybody that is on the team is making that noise. I assume its just those that have kids that were cut and are now polluting people's decisions. Think of it this way... do you think they'll be worse than last year? Not a chance. The team retooled with better players and is now coached by an elite coach.
I heard that the 2018 A team trimmed down the team and didn't take any new blood A real dis appointment to encourage talent to even try out
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 2020 teams are there this year?
3
The B and C teams will not be strong.
That's as predictable as the sun will come up tomorrow. Not exactly "a stretch".
Maybe for C....however B was a good team. They were not among the best of the best, but still a solid team and significantly better than the C team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 2020 teams are there this year?
3
The B and C teams will not be strong.
That's as predictable as the sun will come up tomorrow. Not exactly "a stretch".
Maybe for C....however B was a good team. They were not among the best of the best, but still a solid team and significantly better than the C team.
Around half of last year's B team left.
half huh? was it the top half or bottom half of the team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard that the 2018 A team trimmed down the team and didn't take any new blood A real dis appointment to encourage talent to even try out
You have been misinformed....at least 4 new players
Keep drinking that juice. Did anyone actually ask how long your "elite" coaching staff will be around? Answer: 1 yr. Then you are left with a early 20 something yr old with no coaching experience. This team will implode within 1 year. The parents on this team have way to much say as to what goes on this year. Glad we turned them down. And yes WE turned them down.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
half huh? was it the top half or bottom half of the team?
Best attackeman and 2 best defenseman are a few so certainly some from the top half.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard that the 2018 A team trimmed down the team and didn't take any new blood A real dis appointment to encourage talent to even try out
You have been misinformed....at least 4 new players
Actual number is 6 - last year their were over 30 kids on that team, six is a pretty big number for an elite 9th grade team to turn over about 18% of their roster so what I think you meant to say was "wow, 2018 Terps had a pretty fair tryout and what a great and fair organization to turn over such a large percentage of their team"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
half huh? was it the top half or bottom half of the team?
Best attackeman and 2 best defenseman are a few so certainly some from the top half.
Let me guess: your kid is one of those three
Why would you say let's see how 2022 express does against top 2 teams. They got beat easily by smash in the fall. Tied united then lost 11-0 to united in fall. Lost to igloo by a lot in the fall. Then in the summer lost to united 2 more times and igloo again. Also got killed by team Long Island in the spring. So why don't we see how they do against the 3rd and 4th best teams before we worry about how they do against the 1st and 2nd best. Smash will beat this team easily.
1)smash
2)united
3)igloo
4)TLI
5)express
1)smash
2)united
3)igloo
4)TLI
5)express
One of the D men went to terps, no?
2018 terps picked up a few 91 extreme players... apparently one ex terp returning along with a couple of other players. Not sure why anyone would make the switch going into this big recruiting year, but welcome nonetheless.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep drinking that juice. Did anyone actually ask how long your "elite" coaching staff will be around? Answer: 1 yr. Then you are left with a early 20 something yr old with no coaching experience. This team will implode within 1 year. The parents on this team have way to much say as to what goes on this year. Glad we turned them down. And yes WE turned them down.
So they told as much when you called? Or did you listen to people who start every sentence with "I heard that......"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
One of the D men went to terps, no?
Yes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
One of the D men went to terps, no?
One of the D men from what team went to what age Terps?
Team Long Island is easily the number 2 team, it is not even close!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
One of the D men went to terps, no?
One of the D men from what team went to what age Terps?
2020 from the B team to the A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team Long Island is easily the number 2 team, it is not even close!!!
How do you figure that? Evidence please!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2018 terps picked up a few 91 extreme players... apparently one ex terp returning along with a couple of other players. Not sure why anyone would make the switch going into this big recruiting year, but welcome nonetheless.
Because the Express is more accomplished at recruiting.
Terrible experience, they still have not sent an email out to all the kids yet. Let people now where they stand already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terrible experience, they still have not sent an email out to all the kids yet. Let people now where they stand already.
my bad it was in my junk folder..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terrible experience, they still have not sent an email out to all the kids yet. Let people now where they stand already.
my bad it was in my junk folder..
So, where do you (you're kid) stand?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terrible experience, they still have not sent an email out to all the kids yet. Let people now where they stand already.
my bad it was in my junk folder..
So, where do you (you're kid) stand?
In the upright position.
lol...
Is it final now that EXPRESS 2022 will have 3 teams ? Will they still call their "A" team the MINUTEMEN and their "B" team the TERPS?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
lol...
Finally some joking to break the tension on this board, well done!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it final now that EXPRESS 2022 will have 3 teams ? Will they still call their "A" team the MINUTEMEN and their "B" team the TERPS?
How is the A team going to be? Will they challenge the 91 teams, TLI, Igloo, etc. this year and be a lower level A team along with Outlaws, Jesters, etc.
whats the deal with 2023 teams
Express will be better this year. Outlaws will be better this year. Both could jump up a few notches. Igloo will not be as good, other teams have more talent. Jesters will take a step back. TLI plays no one so who cares. Smash and united still the best. But express and outlaws significantly closed the gap this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
whats the deal with 2023 teams
Did all the invites go out yet for 2023?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it final now that EXPRESS 2022 will have 3 teams ? Will they still call their "A" team the MINUTEMEN and their "B" team the TERPS?
How is the A team going to be? Will they challenge the 91 teams, TLI, Igloo, etc. this year and be a lower level A team along with Outlaws, Jesters, etc.
They will be better than last year. They added a lot of kids and we'll see how they do. And who cares. This is about coaching and development. This team far and away has that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it final now that EXPRESS 2022 will have 3 teams ? Will they still call their "A" team the MINUTEMEN and their "B" team the TERPS?
Yeah, I remember that S show. A,B anC. After hearing they are on the C team, half the Kids on C become uninterested and the rest get folded into the B team. numbering 30+ and Creating LOTS of unhappy parents.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express will be better this year. Outlaws will be better this year. Both could jump up a few notches. Igloo will not be as good, other teams have more talent. Jesters will take a step back. TLI plays no one so who cares. Smash and united still the best. But express and outlaws significantly closed the gap this year.
Agree that Express and Outlaws will move up but disagree putting United ahead of TLI. TLI may not play in some of the bigger name tournaments but except for Smash they are clearly No. 2 in this age bracket.
How many teams are there for Express 2016? Is it only one huge team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express will be better this year. Outlaws will be better this year. Both could jump up a few notches. Igloo will not be as good, other teams have more talent. Jesters will take a step back. TLI plays no one so who cares. Smash and united still the best. But express and outlaws significantly closed the gap this year.
Agree that Express and Outlaws will move up but disagree putting United ahead of TLI. TLI may not play in some of the bigger name tournaments but except for Smash they are clearly No. 2 in this age bracket.
You keep saying that but have no evidence to back up your claim. Why would you think Team LI is 2nd? Bizzare!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are there for Express 2016? Is it only one huge team?
Unfortunately, the experiment taken at this groups expense continues to be a joke !!! Yes I am a 2016 parent
C team the Twerps?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express will be better this year. Outlaws will be better this year. Both could jump up a few notches. Igloo will not be as good, other teams have more talent. Jesters will take a step back. TLI plays no one so who cares. Smash and united still the best. But express and outlaws significantly closed the gap this year.
You are an insecure, over bearing lunatic parent. Feel bad for your poor kid.
What? Why? Insecure? What are you talking about?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express will be better this year. Outlaws will be better this year. Both could jump up a few notches. Igloo will not be as good, other teams have more talent. Jesters will take a step back. TLI plays no one so who cares. Smash and united still the best. But express and outlaws significantly closed the gap this year.
You are an insecure, over bearing lunatic parent. Feel bad for your poor kid.
Lol, it's funny because he is fat.
Didn't Massapequa HS win the Championship? None of those kids were on Express, TLI, or Outlaws.
Go figure???
Go figure???
Igloo is a reconstitution of the Threshers - a lost and forgotten team last year. Don't believe the hype - this was and will be a B level team. Igloo brand is no place for a good player to go in a recruiting year. And the director has NO relationships with college coaches other than Hofstra. Stay away unless you were cut by Team 91, LI Express, Jesters, Outlaws, fl$, Team LI and every other A and AA team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't Massapequa HS win the Championship? None of those kids were on Express, TLI, or Outlaws.
Go figure???
Go figure???
Cromwell has NO relationship with colleges ? Come on get your facts straight! Cause he is a director as well .
My sincere condolences to the parents and kids on the 30 player Express rosters this year. You are caught in a land/money grab that intends to hoard talent rather than see a child do well in another organization. Take the opportunity to reevaluate how you want to spend critical development years.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My sincere condolences to the parents and kids on the 30 player Express rosters this year. You are caught in a land/money grab that intends to hoard talent rather than see a child do well in another organization. Take the opportunity to reevaluate how you want to spend critical development years.
Thank you. And I'll be sure to report back how wrong you all were for turning down a team because you thought there was going to be 30 kids on a team.
Thank you. And I'll be sure to report back how wrong you all were for turning down a team because you thought there was going to be 30 kids on a team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't Massapequa HS win the Championship? None of those kids were on Express, TLI, or Outlaws.
Go figure???
Go figure???
More Pequa kids play for the Express than probably any other town.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't Massapequa HS win the Championship? None of those kids were on Express, TLI, or Outlaws.
Go figure???
Go figure???
More Pequa kids play for the Express than probably any other town.
A few years ago that was correct.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't Massapequa HS win the Championship? None of those kids were on Express, TLI, or Outlaws.
Go figure???
Go figure???
More Pequa kids play for the Express than probably any other town.
I a seniors dad was a Jesters coach so they probably had a few Jesters as well as express, a Junior dad's coached No Limit So Shore Ballers so about 6 juniors played for them and a soph's father coached 91 so a few of the 10th graders played for them - and little to no HS team over the summer.....hmmmmmm so much for the "gotta keep the kids together" BS - have the best players and you will win
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are there for Express 2016? Is it only one huge team?
Unfortunately, the experiment taken at this groups expense continues to be a joke !!! Yes I am a 2016 parent
And that "experiment" continues to happen every year. All of these crazy parents keep paying big $$ to watch it happen to theirs
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What? Why? Insecure? What are you talking about?
That you randomly predict what teams improve or decline so you feel better about the team your son is on.
Insecure!! We can add not perceptive as well!
Let's hear your counter about what was said then.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo is a reconstitution of the Threshers - a lost and forgotten team last year. Don't believe the hype - this was and will be a B level team. Igloo brand is no place for a good player to go in a recruiting year. And the director has NO relationships with college coaches other than Hofstra. Stay away unless you were cut by Team 91, LI Express, Jesters, Outlaws, fl$, Team LI and every other A and AA team.
That's what I thought, but the Threshers have tryouts on the 21st and 28th listed on their website. Same guy who started them is still the contact.
The fact that the 2016 team disbanded has alot to do with the many unknowns surrounding the team...There are several great players from the original team that got left behind....I am sure many who will be fall pick ups by some great teams...does anyone have a clue about where the 2016 team is playing in the Fall? How does anyone go forward without knowing facts,dates,etc! Very unfair...
First 2018 Long Island Comimitt: Villani to Maryland
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First 2018 Long Island Comimitt: Villani to Maryland
I hope he liked the campus and they have his major there.
Does he still wear diapers? How old is he?
Anyone who gets involved with the Express on any sort of "committed team" better do their homework first. This past summer Channy put together a committed team. Each player put up $600 and they played in ONE tournament. The Hofstra blue and Gold in the B division. He then refused to give anyone their money back.
Is this what you want to get involved with?
Or how about a 2016 team with 40 kids on it?
There are plenty of other options out there.
Is this what you want to get involved with?
Or how about a 2016 team with 40 kids on it?
There are plenty of other options out there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo is a reconstitution of the Threshers - a lost and forgotten team last year. Don't believe the hype - this was and will be a B level team. Igloo brand is no place for a good player to go in a recruiting year. And the director has NO relationships with college coaches other than Hofstra. Stay away unless you were cut by Team 91, LI Express, Jesters, Outlaws, fl$, Team LI and every other A and AA team.
Sorry your kid got cut by Igloo last year. Glad to see you are handling it in a responsible way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express will be better this year. Outlaws will be better this year. Both could jump up a few notches. Igloo will not be as good, other teams have more talent. Jesters will take a step back. TLI plays no one so who cares. Smash and united still the best. But express and outlaws significantly closed the gap this year.
Agree that Express and Outlaws will move up but disagree putting United ahead of TLI. TLI may not play in some of the bigger name tournaments but except for Smash they are clearly No. 2 in this age bracket.
Agreed. And how can united be placed ahead of igloo. They have played about 7-8 times over the last 2 years. Igloo lost once.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who gets involved with the Express on any sort of "committed team" better do their homework first. This past summer Channy put together a committed team. Each player put up $600 and they played in ONE tournament. The Hofstra blue and Gold in the B division. He then refused to give anyone their money back.
Is this what you want to get involved with?
Or how about a 2016 team with 40 kids on it?
There are plenty of other options out there.
Is this what you want to get involved with?
Or how about a 2016 team with 40 kids on it?
There are plenty of other options out there.
Stop crying. Express is a great option. Channy will try and get every kid his opportunity to attend a great college unlike the 91 guys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First 2018 Long Island Committ: Villani to Maryland
Congrats Christian!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who gets involved with the Express on any sort of "committed team" better do their homework first. This past summer Channy put together a committed team. Each player put up $600 and they played in ONE tournament. The Hofstra blue and Gold in the B division. He then refused to give anyone their money back.
Is this what you want to get involved with?
Or how about a 2016 team with 40 kids on it?
There are plenty of other options out there.
Is this what you want to get involved with?
Or how about a 2016 team with 40 kids on it?
There are plenty of other options out there.
Stop crying. Express is a great option. Channy will try and get every kid his opportunity to attend a great college unlike the 91 guys.
Channy is done once he has his first line of commits. He has proven to move on by handing over the team to coaches at the final moment, first tournament. The majority do not even get responses to their emails and questions. Yes I was part of that group and yes speak from experience and fact
Do you really believe that? You must be new to this. Channy will only help the top players. He does not care about the rest. That is a fact. Stop believing everything this man tells you. He lies. I've been through it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First 2018 Long Island Comimitt: Villani to Maryland
Very happy for Christian. not just a good player but a really good kid
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do you really believe that? You must be new to this. Channy will only help the top players. He does not care about the rest. That is a fact. Stop believing everything this man tells you. He lies. I've been through it.
true true true
2015 only helped the top 25 kids commit,
2016 only helped the top 12 kids commit,
2017 only helped the top 16 kids commit,
and so far he has only helped on 2018 commit - guys a joke
My son tried out for the Express this year, didn't really expect him to make the A team although he has played with many of the kids from that team before. He wanted to tryout because he knew many of the kids on the team. I really didn't want him to but he is 13 so I give him some choices.
Not knowing anyone there or doing any networking I didn't expect much but Express certainly exceeded my low expectations. He didn't make the teams which is fine with me but what does irk me is that after paying the $100 tryout fee we didn't even get an email saying thanks for coming down. Pretty low class. I have no problem that he didn't make it there were tons of kids. But a thank you email is the least they could do after gladly taking my $100.
Not knowing anyone there or doing any networking I didn't expect much but Express certainly exceeded my low expectations. He didn't make the teams which is fine with me but what does irk me is that after paying the $100 tryout fee we didn't even get an email saying thanks for coming down. Pretty low class. I have no problem that he didn't make it there were tons of kids. But a thank you email is the least they could do after gladly taking my $100.
Didn't TLI lose twice to Manhasset in the Maverik last year? How can they possibly be considered #2? Ridiculous.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son tried out for the Express this year, didn't really expect him to make the A team although he has played with many of the kids from that team before. He wanted to tryout because he knew many of the kids on the team. I really didn't want him to but he is 13 so I give him some choices.
Not knowing anyone there or doing any networking I didn't expect much but Express certainly exceeded my low expectations. He didn't make the teams which is fine with me but what does irk me is that after paying the $100 tryout fee we didn't even get an email saying thanks for coming down. Pretty low class. I have no problem that he didn't make it there were tons of kids. But a thank you email is the least they could do after gladly taking my $100.
Not knowing anyone there or doing any networking I didn't expect much but Express certainly exceeded my low expectations. He didn't make the teams which is fine with me but what does irk me is that after paying the $100 tryout fee we didn't even get an email saying thanks for coming down. Pretty low class. I have no problem that he didn't make it there were tons of kids. But a thank you email is the least they could do after gladly taking my $100.
Your not the only one with this gripe, they didn't send many emails to kids telling them they didn't make the team. Not very cool! Well you got a pinne.
Go ask those parents after the top 5 of commits exactly how much channy helped. Personally know 1 of the 2017 commits that MC did nothing for. Absolutely nothing. Father did every single call. Just because the express has all those commits doesn't mean channy did it for them. Turtles did it for themselves. Stop preaching at the alter of MC!!!
Ask the 2016 barracuda kids and their parents how their tournament season went this past summer. It was a disaster all around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son tried out for the Express this year, didn't really expect him to make the A team although he has played with many of the kids from that team before. He wanted to tryout because he knew many of the kids on the team. I really didn't want him to but he is 13 so I give him some choices.
Not knowing anyone there or doing any networking I didn't expect much but Express certainly exceeded my low expectations. He didn't make the teams which is fine with me but what does irk me is that after paying the $100 tryout fee we didn't even get an email saying thanks for coming down. Pretty low class. I have no problem that he didn't make it there were tons of kids. But a thank you email is the least they could do after gladly taking my $100.
Not knowing anyone there or doing any networking I didn't expect much but Express certainly exceeded my low expectations. He didn't make the teams which is fine with me but what does irk me is that after paying the $100 tryout fee we didn't even get an email saying thanks for coming down. Pretty low class. I have no problem that he didn't make it there were tons of kids. But a thank you email is the least they could do after gladly taking my $100.
A baby wipe and a kiss on the cheek would have been nice, no?
Youth Lacrosse is a SCAM!
All I can tell you all is that Channy has helped my kid tremendously. He has been open an honest for the last three or four years.
It is a tough spot, let's face it, on any given A team there are likely only 5 or 6 kids that are actually good enough to ultimately get recruited to a good school program. Sure, there are those that start off on B or C teams, work hard, grow and become more athletic and move up the ladder and become recruited. But for the most part, the kids, no matter how much you want them to, will not be playing big college lax.
Just wait and see how much political nonsense is involved once the recruiting events start. Everyone wants their kid to get invited to Mav Showtime, Jake Reed, Philly (the three big ones) but the clubs are only going to recommend the tops 5-8 guys on their best team. They just can't send a B or C kid or even 2/3 of the kids on their best team...
You can't blame the organization for taking your money, they are in a business. They are selling a dream, You are the one's buying into the dream for $3k a year. Unless your kid is a top ten kid on the best team your club offers by 7th grade, save the $ for tutors and play town ball.
Do you really think spending the xtra $50 for shooting or dodging practice will make your kid into the next early recruit?
Stop complaining about the $100 try out fee and the failure of express or anyone else to send you a nice note saying your kid didn't make the team. Pick up the phone and call and ask, did my kid make the team. They will tell you if you ask.
It is a tough spot, let's face it, on any given A team there are likely only 5 or 6 kids that are actually good enough to ultimately get recruited to a good school program. Sure, there are those that start off on B or C teams, work hard, grow and become more athletic and move up the ladder and become recruited. But for the most part, the kids, no matter how much you want them to, will not be playing big college lax.
Just wait and see how much political nonsense is involved once the recruiting events start. Everyone wants their kid to get invited to Mav Showtime, Jake Reed, Philly (the three big ones) but the clubs are only going to recommend the tops 5-8 guys on their best team. They just can't send a B or C kid or even 2/3 of the kids on their best team...
You can't blame the organization for taking your money, they are in a business. They are selling a dream, You are the one's buying into the dream for $3k a year. Unless your kid is a top ten kid on the best team your club offers by 7th grade, save the $ for tutors and play town ball.
Do you really think spending the xtra $50 for shooting or dodging practice will make your kid into the next early recruit?
Stop complaining about the $100 try out fee and the failure of express or anyone else to send you a nice note saying your kid didn't make the team. Pick up the phone and call and ask, did my kid make the team. They will tell you if you ask.
You are a [lacrosse] bag. A muzzle or transparity of your anonymity would serve you well. That was a condescending comment for no reason.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son tried out for the Express this year, didn't really expect him to make the A team although he has played with many of the kids from that team before. He wanted to tryout because he knew many of the kids on the team. I really didn't want him to but he is 13 so I give him some choices.
Not knowing anyone there or doing any networking I didn't expect much but Express certainly exceeded my low expectations. He didn't make the teams which is fine with me but what does irk me is that after paying the $100 tryout fee we didn't even get an email saying thanks for coming down. Pretty low class. I have no problem that he didn't make it there were tons of kids. But a thank you email is the least they could do after gladly taking my $100.
Not knowing anyone there or doing any networking I didn't expect much but Express certainly exceeded my low expectations. He didn't make the teams which is fine with me but what does irk me is that after paying the $100 tryout fee we didn't even get an email saying thanks for coming down. Pretty low class. I have no problem that he didn't make it there were tons of kids. But a thank you email is the least they could do after gladly taking my $100.
Your not the only one with this gripe, they didn't send many emails to kids telling them they didn't make the team. Not very cool! Well you got a pinne.
Your kid may still have a shot. Express wanted commitments by last week but many got extensions to see what would happen with Empire, fl$, 91 and any others that had tryouts this past weekend. So some of those kids will pass on Express and new spots will open up. There is still a chance....but I agree with the suggestion to call them if you want a more direct answer.
Not the poster you called a bad name, but please share your thoughts more clearly. How was that condescending? Are you really that insecure that you thought poster was talking to you? Look, I get it, your kid is probably not going to make it and it get's you upset. Move away from the key board and think before you post...
my son plays for another program. no axe to grind. your comments was just rude you Manhasset [lacrosse]. Yes, I know who you are.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
on any given A team there are likely only 5 or 6 kids that are actually good enough to ultimately get recruited to a good school program.
They are selling a dream, You are the one's buying into the dream for $3k a year. Unless your kid is a top ten kid on the best team your club offers by 7th grade, save the $ for tutors and play town ball.
Do you really think spending the xtra $50 for shooting or dodging practice will make your kid into the next early recruit?
Agree with 'selling a dream' but I'd like to think there's more to playing club lax being recruited by top D1 programssuch as skills development, competitive play and college lax outside the Top 25 programs. The sport is growing so rapidly, expanding to non-traditional states, etc. that the demand for players of all levels makes the costs of tryouts/club/tourney fees 'worthwhile'. As a 2019 dad, I'm hopeful that 7th/8th graders are still able to jump levels (i.e., B to A player, A to AA, AA to top recruit, etc.). What's scary is that recruiting/commitments are happening so early (see 2018 commits) that makes pre-HS development/ exposure much more criticalso why not buy into the dream?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
my son plays for another program. no axe to grind. your comments was just rude you Manhasset [lacrosse]. Yes, I know who you are.
Excuse me. There are no pricks in Manhasset. Never has been, never will be. Salt of the earth. That is all.
Ok since this is open now I would like to ask a question please no rude or demoralizing answers just honest opinions. 2018 express offer for the B team first time ever trying out for this team. He has played last 3 yrs on another teams A team Does Express ever move young men with some talent up or down from B to A and A to B?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
my son plays for another program. no axe to grind. your comments was just rude you Manhasset [lacrosse]. Yes, I know who you are.
Excuse me. There are no pricks in Manhasset. Never has been, never will be. Salt of the earth. That is all.
That's because they are all sissy's. Go to another town if you have a [lacrosse].
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Ok since this is open now I would like to ask a question please no rude or demoralizing answers just honest opinions. 2018 express offer for the B team first time ever trying out for this team. He has played last 3 yrs on another teams A team Does Express ever move young men with some talent up or down from B to A and A to B?
There are moves every year. never seen a player get moved down during the year. have seen players move up, but rare. 2018 is pretty stacked and tough to crack.
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Ok since this is open now I would like to ask a question please no rude or demoralizing answers just honest opinions. 2018 express offer for the B team first time ever trying out for this team. He has played last 3 yrs on another teams A team Does Express ever move young men with some talent up or down from B to A and A to B?
Have seen kids get moved down but never during the year. Have never seen a kid get moved up during the year. That's not going to happen and don't believe it if its put out as a "possibility". If you are not on the A team you should not spend an A-team tuition. Why buy a Ford Fiesta for the price of a Lamborghini? Trust me from experience, walk away...fast.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Ok since this is open now I would like to ask a question please no rude or demoralizing answers just honest opinions. 2018 express offer for the B team first time ever trying out for this team. He has played last 3 yrs on another teams A team Does Express ever move young men with some talent up or down from B to A and A to B?
There are moves every year. never seen a player get moved down during the year. have seen players move up, but rare. 2018 is pretty stacked and tough to crack.
The concern is that on the 2nd team your son will see zero college coaches. The B teams don't go to showcases. You have to do all the work and get him into the individual ones. And ask yourself if you got one yet to Philly or Maverick. Those invites are out and I believe a lot of those invites are based who and where you play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Ok since this is open now I would like to ask a question please no rude or demoralizing answers just honest opinions. 2018 express offer for the B team first time ever trying out for this team. He has played last 3 yrs on another teams A team Does Express ever move young men with some talent up or down from B to A and A to B?
There are moves every year. never seen a player get moved down during the year. have seen players move up, but rare. 2018 is pretty stacked and tough to crack.
The concern is that on the 2nd team your son will see zero college coaches. The B teams don't go to showcases. You have to do all the work and get him into the individual ones. And ask yourself if you got one yet to Philly or Maverick. Those invites are out and I believe a lot of those invites are based who and where you play.
It is my understanding that the 2018 B team is doing a bunch of showcases this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Ok since this is open now I would like to ask a question please no rude or demoralizing answers just honest opinions. 2018 express offer for the B team first time ever trying out for this team. He has played last 3 yrs on another teams A team Does Express ever move young men with some talent up or down from B to A and A to B?
There are moves every year. never seen a player get moved down during the year. have seen players move up, but rare. 2018 is pretty stacked and tough to crack.
The concern is that on the 2nd team your son will see zero college coaches. The B teams don't go to showcases. You have to do all the work and get him into the individual ones. And ask yourself if you got one yet to Philly or Maverick. Those invites are out and I believe a lot of those invites are based who and where you play.
It is my understanding that the 2018 B team is doing a bunch of showcases this year.
Play on another teams A team. You will get zero attention on B team. Not knocking the Express, just what it is. Also, you need to think about what tourns he'll be playing in? If playing in B bracket, very few if any coaches will be watching. If playing in A bracket you get the benefit of coaches coming to see other kids on your team, as well as the kids on the team your team plays. All about exposure. On the flip side, if your son has no D1 college aspirations and wants to maybe play D3, then go where ever you want. The d3 process begins summer between soph and jr year and most offers happen following summer or early fall of senior year. Hope that helps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Ok since this is open now I would like to ask a question please no rude or demoralizing answers just honest opinions. 2018 express offer for the B team first time ever trying out for this team. He has played last 3 yrs on another teams A team Does Express ever move young men with some talent up or down from B to A and A to B?
There are moves every year. never seen a player get moved down during the year. have seen players move up, but rare. 2018 is pretty stacked and tough to crack.
The concern is that on the 2nd team your son will see zero college coaches. The B teams don't go to showcases. You have to do all the work and get him into the individual ones. And ask yourself if you got one yet to Philly or Maverick. Those invites are out and I believe a lot of those invites are based who and where you play.
If he did not make the "A" team then I would think it is a good chance he is not going to be a 9th grade D1 recruit. don't worry about what showcases or recruiting tourney's he goes to this year just concentrate on getting better and go to prospect days, no politics on who goes to those, just who got their check in first. still plenty of 10th and 11th graders signing with D1 programs. Get Bigger, Stronger, Faster and better and hit the books, there is a place for everybody.
Thanks for your help We are / have been approached already by a few D1 recruiters As I said he s been on A teams b4 and just wanted to try somewhere new As we all know it's tough to break in on established teams I'm not complaining its a fact Just thought I would put it out there Looks like we will stay A somewhere else Enjoy the season see u on the field
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Thanks for your help We are / have been approached already by a few D1 recruiters As I said he s been on A teams b4 and just wanted to try somewhere new As we all know it's tough to break in on established teams I'm not complaining its a fact Just thought I would put it out there Looks like we will stay A somewhere else Enjoy the season see u on the field
At this age never leave an A team for a 2nd team. And this is all about showcases even if your kid is not ready to be recruited, which mine is not. If you're spending money and not going to at least one showcase you're wasting valuable experience time. Sorry, buy that's my opinion.
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Thanks for your help We are / have been approached already by a few D1 recruiters As I said he s been on A teams b4 and just wanted to try somewhere new As we all know it's tough to break in on established teams I'm not complaining its a fact Just thought I would put it out there Looks like we will stay A somewhere else Enjoy the season see u on the field
Sounds like your kid is already in a good place and on the right road. Stay with the A team and tell him to continue to work hard. GL to him!
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Thanks for your help We are / have been approached already by a few D1 recruiters As I said he s been on A teams b4 and just wanted to try somewhere new As we all know it's tough to break in on established teams I'm not complaining its a fact Just thought I would put it out there Looks like we will stay A somewhere else Enjoy the season see u on the field
Stay with your Jesters team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Ok since this is open now I would like to ask a question please no rude or demoralizing answers just honest opinions. 2018 express offer for the B team first time ever trying out for this team. He has played last 3 yrs on another teams A team Does Express ever move young men with some talent up or down from B to A and A to B?
There are moves every year. never seen a player get moved down during the year. have seen players move up, but rare. 2018 is pretty stacked and tough to crack.
The concern is that on the 2nd team your son will see zero college coaches. The B teams don't go to showcases. You have to do all the work and get him into the individual ones. And ask yourself if you got one yet to Philly or Maverick. Those invites are out and I believe a lot of those invites are based who and where you play.
It is my understanding that the 2018 B team is doing a bunch of showcases this year.
Play on another teams A team. You will get zero attention on B team. Not knocking the Express, just what it is. Also, you need to think about what tourns he'll be playing in? If playing in B bracket, very few if any coaches will be watching. If playing in A bracket you get the benefit of coaches coming to see other kids on your team, as well as the kids on the team your team plays. All about exposure. On the flip side, if your son has no D1 college aspirations and wants to maybe play D3, then go where ever you want. The d3 process begins summer between soph and jr year and most offers happen following summer or early fall of senior year. Hope that helps.
Zero attention on a B team? That's not true, if you, as a parent, know what you're doing, and put the time and effort into getting your kid recruited. If you contact the coaches, and know how to navigate the process, they absolutely go look at kids on B teams. If you're planning to just sit back, go along for the ride, rely on the club, and expect the coaches to just see your son, then yes, you're right - he better be on an A team, with a top club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Ok since this is open now I would like to ask a question please no rude or demoralizing answers just honest opinions. 2018 express offer for the B team first time ever trying out for this team. He has played last 3 yrs on another teams A team Does Express ever move young men with some talent up or down from B to A and A to B?
There are moves every year. never seen a player get moved down during the year. have seen players move up, but rare. 2018 is pretty stacked and tough to crack.
The concern is that on the 2nd team your son will see zero college coaches. The B teams don't go to showcases. You have to do all the work and get him into the individual ones. And ask yourself if you got one yet to Philly or Maverick. Those invites are out and I believe a lot of those invites are based who and where you play.
It is my understanding that the 2018 B team is doing a bunch of showcases this year.
Good luck with that. Last year didn't play in fall or spring. Barely practiced before first tournament. They were treated like a B team for sure.
My son made the 2022 "A" team this year. This is the first year in club ball. Anyone else new to express this year ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Ok since this is open now I would like to ask a question please no rude or demoralizing answers just honest opinions. 2018 express offer for the B team first time ever trying out for this team. He has played last 3 yrs on another teams A team Does Express ever move young men with some talent up or down from B to A and A to B?
There are moves every year. never seen a player get moved down during the year. have seen players move up, but rare. 2018 is pretty stacked and tough to crack.
The concern is that on the 2nd team your son will see zero college coaches. The B teams don't go to showcases. You have to do all the work and get him into the individual ones. And ask yourself if you got one yet to Philly or Maverick. Those invites are out and I believe a lot of those invites are based who and where you play.
It is my understanding that the 2018 B team is doing a bunch of showcases this year.
Good luck with that. Last year didn't play in fall or spring. Barely practiced before first tournament. They were treated like a B team for sure.
B teams don't do showcases. Not because they can't compete, but because these events are invite only and only one team can go. Same for the major individual showcase. The club can only recommend so many kids.
First org practice and you all can put the 30 kid per roster stuff to bed. Saw 8 teams practicing and no more 20-22 per team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First org practice and you all can put the 30 kid per roster stuff to bed. Saw 8 teams practicing and no more 20-22 per team.
The other 8-10 were at football.
Today was first practice for 2022. Some kids were not able to make due to other sports conflicts . Seemed well organized . Talent is definately there with the A team .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First org practice and you all can put the 30 kid per roster stuff to bed. Saw 8 teams practicing and no more 20-22 per team.
That's funny!
Wait until May buddy.
Always starts with 22.
Obviously first year With program!
So you went and counted the players at all the practices! Get a life. You know there will be 30 players. Express always brings in new players during the year. If you can pay you can play, that's their motto.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So you went and counted the players at all the practices! Get a life. You know there will be 30 players. Express always brings in new players during the year. If you can pay you can play, that's their motto.
Nope. Just glanced around so hopefully people would stop posting things that they know nothing about. We signed up. If we were wrong, oh well... Just don't understand how people with zero affiliation (either because a child was cut or left for some other reason) to a club would post nonsense. Don't be so bitter over youth lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by RelaxDad
Ok since this is open now I would like to ask a question please no rude or demoralizing answers just honest opinions. 2018 express offer for the B team first time ever trying out for this team. He has played last 3 yrs on another teams A team Does Express ever move young men with some talent up or down from B to A and A to B?
Have seen kids get moved down but never during the year. Have never seen a kid get moved up during the year. That's not going to happen and don't believe it if its put out as a "possibility". If you are not on the A team you should not spend an A-team tuition. Why buy a Ford Fiesta for the price of a Lamborghini? Trust me from experience, walk away...fast.
They don't move them, they just don't play them. I was mad as [lacrosse] to have my kid play 2 minutes after I drove 4 hours to get to a tournament. Too many kids on the sidelines = little playing time
I know I'm not supposed to feed the trolls here, but here I go anyway --
first practice yesterday with 2022 with Express. I know my kid is not an 'A' team player, but the practice was really a good workout with for him. They (at least at the first practice) worked on good fundamentals which hopefully will build a strong base to help this team be competitive in future tournaments. It was certainly better than some of those speciality clinics that we've been to in the past at other places where you pay a hundred bucks or so and MAYBE a dozen rotations through the drills.
Would I say it's worth the $$$ I'm paying for him to play? The verdict is out on this, but from what I've seen so far, I'm content as they do seem to want to help the boys develop as a player.
first practice yesterday with 2022 with Express. I know my kid is not an 'A' team player, but the practice was really a good workout with for him. They (at least at the first practice) worked on good fundamentals which hopefully will build a strong base to help this team be competitive in future tournaments. It was certainly better than some of those speciality clinics that we've been to in the past at other places where you pay a hundred bucks or so and MAYBE a dozen rotations through the drills.
Would I say it's worth the $$$ I'm paying for him to play? The verdict is out on this, but from what I've seen so far, I'm content as they do seem to want to help the boys develop as a player.
My son is no longer with Express but I don't understand all the hate. We enjoyed the experience and now have moved on. Don't understand why people can not accept a coaches decision weather they agree with it or not and just move on. No need to bash parents, players, coaches or the organization. In our previous 2 years with Express, we never saw the constant adding of players as the season goes on like some here have posted. If you don't have anything positive to say, just don't say anything!!!!!!
Well now, that's just silly.
You don't like my complaint move to the next post.
We have tried out for other teams, clubs in the past and have always gotten a reply either way. This year Outlaws very clearly explained the process to parents and told them they would have a reply by Tues after tryouts and if any questions director took calls Wed. My wife attended express tryouts since I was working and said they never gave parents any information.
As I said from the beginning I wasn't really concerned about him making the team. He made the team I was hoping he would play with. I think that for $100 tryout the least they could do was send an email saying thanks.
Btw this is why I never really post or read this forum because a majority of posters like you are jacoffs.
We have tried out for other teams, clubs in the past and have always gotten a reply either way. This year Outlaws very clearly explained the process to parents and told them they would have a reply by Tues after tryouts and if any questions director took calls Wed. My wife attended express tryouts since I was working and said they never gave parents any information.
As I said from the beginning I wasn't really concerned about him making the team. He made the team I was hoping he would play with. I think that for $100 tryout the least they could do was send an email saying thanks.
Btw this is why I never really post or read this forum because a majority of posters like you are jacoffs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You don't like my complaint move to the next post.
We have tried out for other teams, clubs in the past and have always gotten a reply either way. This year Outlaws very clearly explained the process to parents and told them they would have a reply by Tues after tryouts and if any questions director took calls Wed. My wife attended express tryouts since I was working and said they never gave parents any information.
As I said from the beginning I wasn't really concerned about him making the team. He made the team I was hoping he would play with. I think that for $100 tryout the least they could do was send an email saying thanks.
Btw this is why I never really post or read this forum because a majority of posters like you are jacoffs.
We have tried out for other teams, clubs in the past and have always gotten a reply either way. This year Outlaws very clearly explained the process to parents and told them they would have a reply by Tues after tryouts and if any questions director took calls Wed. My wife attended express tryouts since I was working and said they never gave parents any information.
As I said from the beginning I wasn't really concerned about him making the team. He made the team I was hoping he would play with. I think that for $100 tryout the least they could do was send an email saying thanks.
Btw this is why I never really post or read this forum because a majority of posters like you are jacoffs.
I'm an express parent. They don't give you any information because they want to keep you in the dark. At the first practice Sunday - after we have paid $900 for season down payment and fall - they add a bunch of kids to the team who never tried out and can't play - appears to be friends & family crowd. The roster already had too many kids on it and now has way too many even if these new kids could play. All the stories about this program are true. Their lack of transparency is intentional - it's all about the money.
Channy just might be the worst guy in all of travel lacrosse from all I have heard. We had a minor experience with him and to be quite honest the man is not forthcoming. He tells people what they want to hear but in the end does what suits him. I watched him play a kid that should not have been on the team let alone play and confirmed it from several sources that it was due to a financial obligation. So when everyone gets on hear and complains about Express it really all goes back to their leader. Fish stinks from the head down !
What year was this?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy just might be the worst guy in all of travel lacrosse from all I have heard. We had a minor experience with him and to be quite honest the man is not forthcoming. He tells people what they want to hear but in the end does what suits him. I watched him play a kid that should not have been on the team let alone play and confirmed it from several sources that it was due to a financial obligation. So when everyone gets on hear and complains about Express it really all goes back to their leader. Fish stinks from the head down !
It will never change until people take their boys elsewhere. Many of bought into the hype of the logos success. At its inception and for many years after, its success was valid. Now it is a watered down product that generates millions for MC and his cronies. Move on folks
You are being naive. They are always adding players. Maybe not in your grade but they certainly did with others. You are lucky to leave while you can. Unfortunately for me I have another year of this garbage as I signed up already only to find out they are adding kids that didn't even go to tryouts. smh.
These guys are just there for the all mighty dollar.
These guys are just there for the all mighty dollar.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are being naive. They are always adding players. Maybe not in your grade but they certainly did with others. You are lucky to leave while you can. Unfortunately for me I have another year of this garbage as I signed up already only to find out they are adding kids that didn't even go to tryouts. smh.
These guys are just there for the all mighty dollar.
These guys are just there for the all mighty dollar.
What grade are you referring to?
Remember 2018 terps started with 22 players last year ended up with 32 players
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Remember 2018 terps started with 22 players last year ended up with 32 players
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
So if they didn't move these 10 kids up from the B team, where did they come from ?
2020 A & B are practicing together...at least for now. Not sure what the end game is with that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Remember 2018 terps started with 22 players last year ended up with 32 players
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
So if they didn't move these 10 kids up from the B team, where did they come from ?
From anywhere and everywhere....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 A & B are practicing together...at least for now. Not sure what the end game is with that.
The A team parents will have an end to that.
What wound up happening with the kid that guested for 2021 at the stony brook tournament? Did he he leave icon for express?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 A & B are practicing together...at least for now. Not sure what the end game is with that.
The A team parents will have an end to that.
LOL! First real practice should be around June 1st
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 A & B are practicing together...at least for now. Not sure what the end game is with that.
The A team parents will have an end to that.
LOL! First real practice should be around June 1st
Ha, the express shuffle, they practice together 2-3 times, then they ask who wants to go to the shamrock shootout, then a few weeks later they reestablish AandB teams. And no, you can not get your money back when you thought you were on A and end up on B.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Remember 2018 terps started with 22 players last year ended up with 32 players
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
So if they didn't move these 10 kids up from the B team, where did they come from ?
From anywhere and everywhere....
Could you be a little more specific ? When were these kids added- winter, spring, summer ? Players and parents don't have a problem with this ? How about the 2nd team players, that's got to [lacrosse] them off seeing them add players without moving kids up first.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What wound up happening with the kid that guested for 2021 at the stony brook tournament? Did he he leave icon for express?
No
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Remember 2018 terps started with 22 players last year ended up with 32 players
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
So if they didn't move these 10 kids up from the B team, where did they come from ?
From anywhere and everywhere....
Could you be a little more specific ? When were these kids added- winter, spring, summer ? Players and parents don't have a problem with this ? How about the 2nd team players, that's got to [lacrosse] them off seeing them add players without moving kids up first.
it was a very fluid team with many kids playing fall sports and lots of injuries, in the spring their were a few kids that were playing varsity and not playing in the spring and the 2-3 kids that were added to the team happened late spring or summer - from memory the team never had 30+ kids in the fall or spring but did over the summer. It must not have been that bad because every single kid that was on the team was at tryouts this year except 1 kid that had quit before the end of the year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Remember 2018 terps started with 22 players last year ended up with 32 players
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
So if they didn't move these 10 kids up from the B team, where did they come from ?
From anywhere and everywhere....
Could you be a little more specific ? When were these kids added- winter, spring, summer ? Players and parents don't have a problem with this ? How about the 2nd team players, that's got to [lacrosse] them off seeing them add players without moving kids up first.
A bit of an exageration on both ends. The team has not started with 22 players in over 4 years. the real number was 28 and went up to 30 then down to 29 ( goalie left). The additional players were developmental, not studs and thier playing time was minimal. practices on the other hand will always have invites. playing time and reps are always effected but in the end, the training and level of of play can't be beat.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 A & B are practicing together...at least for now. Not sure what the end game is with that.
The A team parents will have an end to that.
LOL! First real practice should be around June 1st
They started practicing on Sunday mornings.....together.
Don't say NO to quick ! word has it , he will be going to the barracudas this upcoming summer.
No
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What wound up happening with the kid that guested for 2021 at the stony brook tournament? Did he he leave icon for express?
No
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Remember 2018 terps started with 22 players last year ended up with 32 players
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
So if they didn't move these 10 kids up from the B team, where did they come from ?
From anywhere and everywhere....
Could you be a little more specific ? When were these kids added- winter, spring, summer ? Players and parents don't have a problem with this ? How about the 2nd team players, that's got to [lacrosse] them off seeing them add players without moving kids up first.
A bit of an exageration on both ends. The team has not started with 22 players in over 4 years. the real number was 28 and went up to 30 then down to 29 ( goalie left). The additional players were developmental, not studs and thier playing time was minimal. practices on the other hand will always have invites. playing time and reps are always effected but in the end, the training and level of of play can't be beat.
You are delusional! The same crap has been going on for years! The A-AA teams, practicing together, promises that turns to behind the back schemes, picking up new players (any time of year) picking some players for an "Elite" team...blah, blah, blah! Nothing good comes of it. Ask those 2016, 2017 (not Turtles) & now 2018 parents. Same crap, different year and now just more parents buying into the ridiculousness!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Remember 2018 terps started with 22 players last year ended up with 32 players
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
So if they didn't move these 10 kids up from the B team, where did they come from ?
From anywhere and everywhere....
Could you be a little more specific ? When were these kids added- winter, spring, summer ? Players and parents don't have a problem with this ? How about the 2nd team players, that's got to [lacrosse] them off seeing them add players without moving kids up first.
A bit of an exageration on both ends. The team has not started with 22 players in over 4 years. the real number was 28 and went up to 30 then down to 29 ( goalie left). The additional players were developmental, not studs and thier playing time was minimal. practices on the other hand will always have invites. playing time and reps are always effected but in the end, the training and level of of play can't be beat.
"started with 22 players" "went up to 30", "always have invites", "playing time and reps are always effected" Are you serious? You're actually saying this is ok with you? WOW!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 A & B are practicing together...at least for now. Not sure what the end game is with that.
The A team parents will have an end to that.
LOL! First real practice should be around June 1st
They started practicing on Sunday mornings.....together.
They do it every year so the B kids don't de-commit. Once the deposits are paid they will split the team practices. Gives the illusion that they are treated equally
Mine has been on 2018 terps for four years now. Channy always up front and always reasonable if you have the nerve to pick up the phone and speak to him. If your kid is not a stud, he tells you very clearly. If your kid is a stud, he gets Jake Reed, Showtime and Philly Fresh Show.
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
How is 2022 "A" Team ? Heard there was significant turnover.. are they going to be improved ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mine has been on 2018 terps for four years now. Channy always up front and always reasonable if you have the nerve to pick up the phone and speak to him. If your kid is not a stud, he tells you very clearly. If your kid is a stud, he gets Jake Reed, Showtime and Philly Fresh Show.
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
Nicely put! Yes, please move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mine has been on 2018 terps for four years now. Channy always up front and always reasonable if you have the nerve to pick up the phone and speak to him. If your kid is not a stud, he tells you very clearly. If your kid is a stud, he gets Jake Reed, Showtime and Philly Fresh Show.
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
Nicely put! Yes, please move on.
So how many of these 30 will be D-1 commits- 10,15,20 ? Is you're little Jimmy a stud ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Remember 2018 terps started with 22 players last year ended up with 32 players
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
B-team did not start practice until one week before first tournament. Did nothing till then- MC is ripping you off.
So if they didn't move these 10 kids up from the B team, where did they come from ?
From anywhere and everywhere....
Could you be a little more specific ? When were these kids added- winter, spring, summer ? Players and parents don't have a problem with this ? How about the 2nd team players, that's got to [lacrosse] them off seeing them add players without moving kids up first.
A bit of an exageration on both ends. The team has not started with 22 players in over 4 years. the real number was 28 and went up to 30 then down to 29 ( goalie left). The additional players were developmental, not studs and thier playing time was minimal. practices on the other hand will always have invites. playing time and reps are always effected but in the end, the training and level of of play can't be beat.
"started with 22 players" "went up to 30", "always have invites", "playing time and reps are always effected" Are you serious? You're actually saying this is ok with you? WOW!!
not only did everyone put up with it but every kid from last years 2018 terps team, except the goalie who left during the season, was back at this years tryouts and everyone that made the team is back
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mine has been on 2018 terps for four years now. Channy always up front and always reasonable if you have the nerve to pick up the phone and speak to him. If your kid is not a stud, he tells you very clearly. If your kid is a stud, he gets Jake Reed, Showtime and Philly Fresh Show.
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
Nicely put! Yes, please move on.
So how many of these 30 will be D-1 commits- 10,15,20 ? Is you're little Jimmy a stud ?
not sure how many will be D1 commits but I like my sons chances better playing with this team then anywhere else for a number of reasons. 1) Quality of practice 2) quality of competition 3) coaches connections 4) coaches working their a$$ off for you to get invites to showcases, prospect days ect. 4) coaches getting team into correct events to be seen by college coaches 5) getting college coaches to watch our games.
sorry all you haters but we are really happy with MC, LIE and 2018 terps. and my kid is not a "STUD" he is one of the players
Its little Johnny! where have you been.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mine has been on 2018 terps for four years now. Channy always up front and always reasonable if you have the nerve to pick up the phone and speak to him. If your kid is not a stud, he tells you very clearly. If your kid is a stud, he gets Jake Reed, Showtime and Philly Fresh Show.
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
Nicely put! Yes, please move on.
So how many of these 30 will be D-1 commits- 10,15,20 ? Is you're little Jimmy a stud ?
here is the breakdown - hope this helps
19 D1's
2 Duke, 3 Maryland, 2 Ohio State, 1 Penn State and 1 ea. Harvard, Cornell, Navy, Penn, St Johns, Hofstra, UNC, Rutgers, Lehigh, Army and Bucknell
3 d2' 2 NYIT and 1 Post
5 D3's
Weslyn, Tufts, Centtenary, Western NE and Williams
and one will decide not to play in college
and Little Jimmy is going to Bucknell
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its little Johnny! where have you been.
I hate that term, thought I would change it up. Besides it is better than Sally.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mine has been on 2018 terps for four years now. Channy always up front and always reasonable if you have the nerve to pick up the phone and speak to him. If your kid is not a stud, he tells you very clearly. If your kid is a stud, he gets Jake Reed, Showtime and Philly Fresh Show.
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
Nicely put! Yes, please move on.
So how many of these 30 will be D-1 commits- 10,15,20 ? Is you're little Jimmy a stud ?
here is the breakdown - hope this helps
19 D1's
2 Duke, 3 Maryland, 2 Ohio State, 1 Penn State and 1 ea. Harvard, Cornell, Navy, Penn, St Johns, Hofstra, UNC, Rutgers, Lehigh, Army and Bucknell
3 d2' 2 NYIT and 1 Post
5 D3's
Weslyn, Tufts, Centtenary, Western NE and Williams
and one will decide not to play in college
and Little Jimmy is going to Bucknell
Pretty impressive, didn't know they were this far along at 2018. They have only been in high school for two-three weeks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mine has been on 2018 terps for four years now. Channy always up front and always reasonable if you have the nerve to pick up the phone and speak to him. If your kid is not a stud, he tells you very clearly. If your kid is a stud, he gets Jake Reed, Showtime and Philly Fresh Show.
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
Nicely put! Yes, please move on.
So how many of these 30 will be D-1 commits- 10,15,20 ? Is you're little Jimmy a stud ?
here is the breakdown - hope this helps
19 D1's
2 Duke, 3 Maryland, 2 Ohio State, 1 Penn State and 1 ea. Harvard, Cornell, Navy, Penn, St Johns, Hofstra, UNC, Rutgers, Lehigh, Army and Bucknell
3 d2' 2 NYIT and 1 Post
5 D3's
Weslyn, Tufts, Centtenary, Western NE and Williams
and one will decide not to play in college
and Little Jimmy is going to Bucknell
That's fantastic and what the club experience should provide. The angst comes from those who have paid like you, have practiced like you, have travelled like you, but get nothing from the club. Sure, not all kids are college lacrosse material, but families shouldn't be strung along to think that the club is doing something for them, when in fact, they are not. Clubs should be honest about that and the honesty comes from not having an abundance of teams per grade in order to line pockets.
Your post proves that if you're not on the A team, get out before you waste a year.
Bravo. Also a TERP parent here. That pretty much sums it up!
Totally your prerogative and your choice.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mine has been on 2018 terps for four years now. Channy always up front and always reasonable if you have the nerve to pick up the phone and speak to him. If your kid is not a stud, he tells you very clearly. If your kid is a stud, he gets Jake Reed, Showtime and Philly Fresh Show.
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
Nicely put! Yes, please move on.
So how many of these 30 will be D-1 commits- 10,15,20 ? Is you're little Jimmy a stud ?
here is the breakdown - hope this helps
19 D1's
2 Duke, 3 Maryland, 2 Ohio State, 1 Penn State and 1 ea. Harvard, Cornell, Navy, Penn, St Johns, Hofstra, UNC, Rutgers, Lehigh, Army and Bucknell
3 d2' 2 NYIT and 1 Post
5 D3's
Weslyn, Tufts, Centtenary, Western NE and Williams
and one will decide not to play in college
and Little Jimmy is going to Bucknell
Than I envy Little Jimmy! And Wes, Tufts and Williams. Take a Ivy, Patriot and NESCAC all day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's fantastic and what the club experience should provide. The angst comes from those who have paid like you, have practiced like you, have travelled like you, but get nothing from the club. Sure, not all kids are college lacrosse material, but families shouldn't be strung along to think that the club is doing something for them, when in fact, they are not. Clubs should be honest about that and the honesty comes from not having an abundance of teams per grade in order to line pockets.
Your post proves that if you're not on the A team, get out before you waste a year.
I am sorry that you have had such a horrible experience but I was wondering who put the gun to your head and made you join Express or made you play on the second or third team? or made you come back? this may be a case of you do NOT get what you pay for but as the saying "goes fool me once...." plenty of other teams out there.
There is a 2015 kid that was on the third team in 9th grade and is going to Fairfield on a scholarship - he grew, he got better and he worked his tail off, played in the fall events, got an invite to Maverik and never complained.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's fantastic and what the club experience should provide. The angst comes from those who have paid like you, have practiced like you, have travelled like you, but get nothing from the club. Sure, not all kids are college lacrosse material, but families shouldn't be strung along to think that the club is doing something for them, when in fact, they are not. Clubs should be honest about that and the honesty comes from not having an abundance of teams per grade in order to line pockets.
Your post proves that if you're not on the A team, get out before you waste a year.
I am sorry that you have had such a horrible experience but I was wondering who put the gun to your head and made you join Express or made you play on the second or third team? or made you come back? this may be a case of you do NOT get what you pay for but as the saying "goes fool me once...." plenty of other teams out there.
There is a 2015 kid that was on the third team in 9th grade and is going to Fairfield on a scholarship - he grew, he got better and he worked his tail off, played in the fall events, got an invite to Maverik and never complained.
The first paragraph is an Irrelevant response.
As for the next paragraph, kudos to the kid. It's a great thing to see. It also proves that it's more about the individual than the club.
its a combination like everything in life you get out of it what you put into it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mine has been on 2018 terps for four years now. Channy always up front and always reasonable if you have the nerve to pick up the phone and speak to him. If your kid is not a stud, he tells you very clearly. If your kid is a stud, he gets Jake Reed, Showtime and Philly Fresh Show.
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
He brings team to most competitive tournaments (Adrenaline and the like). I actually watched a game next to Virginia coaches. So, all people have a choice to make, if your kid is not a stud, perhaps this is not the place for you. If your kid is a stud (or has potential to be a stud) then you definitely want Channy or 91 extreme.
I admit I have missed of few games over the years, but the only time there were 30 players on the team was when we played both the 2017 and 2018 age brackets at NXT...
So, if you don't like express or channy move on to another team, but I think you will find that all of these clubs are basically the same and the politics of each situation lead to unhappy parents depending on whether your kid benefits from the politics or not.
If you are just looking for your kid to play lax and not thinking about playing at the next level, you don't need to be on express, you can play anywhere. If you bought into the dream that your kid is going to the next level (D-1), then he should already be on the A team and a stud.
Plenty of other opportunities to play in college that don't need channy or 91--plenty of good D-3 programs with great academics...but to waste your time complaining that you didn't get an email thanking your for trying out, or that your kid never sees the field because too many players...clearly you are in the wrong organization and you and your son would be happier some where else, so go and leave the rest of us in peace..
Nicely put! Yes, please move on.
So how many of these 30 will be D-1 commits- 10,15,20 ? Is you're little Jimmy a stud ?
here is the breakdown - hope this helps
19 D1's
2 Duke, 3 Maryland, 2 Ohio State, 1 Penn State and 1 ea. Harvard, Cornell, Navy, Penn, St Johns, Hofstra, UNC, Rutgers, Lehigh, Army and Bucknell
3 d2' 2 NYIT and 1 Post
5 D3's
Weslyn, Tufts, Centtenary, Western NE and Williams
and one will decide not to play in college
and Little Jimmy is going to Bucknell
Than I envy Little Jimmy! And Wes, Tufts and Williams. Take a Ivy, Patriot and NESCAC all day.
Look at the Top 10 w/highest paid business grads-
Express has players in High School on LI that are committed to these schools. Give some respect to the Express.
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Its not the payers on the express teams that people disrespect. Its the director.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its not the payers on the express teams that people disrespect. Its the director.
Why don't we just stop all this nonsense, focus on your child and not other programs and how they are run or who runs them. I'm sure that we can find faults in every program and their directors but why waste all that energy. Just make sure your child gets the best education and gives it his/her all in any endeavor they attempt.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its not the payers on the express teams that people disrespect. Its the director.
No, he's such a nice man.its all about the kids, its not about the money at all .its about development.just ask him. And he's so up front and honest.
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
Best school on the Island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
Best school on the Island.
If you like spoiled snobs that aren't that bright
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
Best school on the Island.
Lol. Not even top 10
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
Best school on the Island.
Hahahahahahahaha.
thanks..heard that they went thru some tough times in last few years on girls side....good people running the show also...but idea that they have only one team at each level on girls is positive, right?
Originally Posted by anonomous
thanks..heard that they went thru some tough times in last few years on girls side....good people running the show also...but idea that they have only one team at each level on girls is positive, right?
Only one team because it's so bad. Can't field more than one.
fl$ only has one team too and they are equally as bad. Put your daughter in the right position to succeed in a Girl's only program. Pick one where the girls are truly treated the right way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
Best school on the Island.
So true. Track record of amazing college placements can't be touched. 2nd to none.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
No need to wonder, "what kind of school could St.Anthony's be". Answer is below-
St. Anthony's BOYS committed NCAA Programs-
2015-
2 to Boston U (D1)
Penn (D1)
Hopkins (D1)
UMASS (D1)
Army (D1)
Lafayette (D1)
Quinnipac (D1)
Richmond (D1)
High Point (D1)
Wash & Lee (D3)
Sacred heart (D1)
Mt St. Mary (D1)
2 to Tampa (D2)
2016-
Army (D1)
Villanova (D1)
Michigan (D1)
2 to Hofstra (D1)
High Point (D1)
Furman (D1)
Dartmouth (D1)
2017-
Bucknell (D1)
PENN (D1)
Looks like 22 current players at St.Anthony's going D1 lacrosse, pretty impressive list of schools thus far. I hope this info helps your wondering of SA.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
Best school on the Island.
So true. Track record of amazing college placements can't be touched. 2nd to none.
Times are changing. Some public schools now have better resumes regarding 2017 age group
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
Best school on the Island.
So true. Track record of amazing college placements can't be touched. 2nd to none.
Times are changing. Some public schools now have better resumes regarding 2017 age group
Aside from athletic commitments just academic placements alone are amazing at St A's. Anybody who doesn't think St A's isn't the best school on LI is. crazy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
No need to wonder, "what kind of school could St.Anthony's be". Answer is below-
St. Anthony's BOYS committed NCAA Programs-
2015-
2 to Boston U (D1)
Penn (D1)
Hopkins (D1)
UMASS (D1)
Army (D1)
Lafayette (D1)
Quinnipac (D1)
Richmond (D1)
High Point (D1)
Wash & Lee (D3)
Sacred heart (D1)
Mt St. Mary (D1)
2 to Tampa (D2)
2016-
Army (D1)
Villanova (D1)
Michigan (D1)
2 to Hofstra (D1)
High Point (D1)
Furman (D1)
Dartmouth (D1)
2017-
Bucknell (D1)
PENN (D1)
Looks like 22 current players at St.Anthony's going D1 lacrosse, pretty impressive list of schools thus far. I hope this info helps your wondering of SA.
Besides Chaminade, no school can top that list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
No need to wonder, "what kind of school could St.Anthony's be". Answer is below-
St. Anthony's BOYS committed NCAA Programs-
2015-
2 to Boston U (D1)
Penn (D1)
Hopkins (D1)
UMASS (D1)
Army (D1)
Lafayette (D1)
Quinnipac (D1)
Richmond (D1)
High Point (D1)
Wash & Lee (D3)
Sacred heart (D1)
Mt St. Mary (D1)
2 to Tampa (D2)
2016-
Army (D1)
Villanova (D1)
Michigan (D1)
2 to Hofstra (D1)
High Point (D1)
Furman (D1)
Dartmouth (D1)
2017-
Bucknell (D1)
PENN (D1)
Looks like 22 current players at St.Anthony's going D1 lacrosse, pretty impressive list of schools thus far. I hope this info helps your wondering of SA.
Not a lot of top level schools listed there, definitely not worth going private to get into most of those schools. Not impressive!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
No need to wonder, "what kind of school could St.Anthony's be". Answer is below-
St. Anthony's BOYS committed NCAA Programs-
2015-
2 to Boston U (D1)
Penn (D1)
Hopkins (D1)
UMASS (D1)
Army (D1)
Lafayette (D1)
Quinnipac (D1)
Richmond (D1)
High Point (D1)
Wash & Lee (D3)
Sacred heart (D1)
Mt St. Mary (D1)
2 to Tampa (D2)
2016-
Army (D1)
Villanova (D1)
Michigan (D1)
2 to Hofstra (D1)
High Point (D1)
Furman (D1)
Dartmouth (D1)
2017-
Bucknell (D1)
PENN (D1)
Looks like 22 current players at St.Anthony's going D1 lacrosse, pretty impressive list of schools thus far. I hope this info helps your wondering of SA.
Not a lot of top level schools listed there, definitely not worth going private to get into most of those schools. Not impressive!
lol. I HOPE your joking?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
No need to wonder, "what kind of school could St.Anthony's be". Answer is below-
St. Anthony's BOYS committed NCAA Programs-
2015-
2 to Boston U (D1)
Penn (D1)
Hopkins (D1)
UMASS (D1)
Army (D1)
Lafayette (D1)
Quinnipac (D1)
Richmond (D1)
High Point (D1)
Wash & Lee (D3)
Sacred heart (D1)
Mt St. Mary (D1)
2 to Tampa (D2)
2016-
Army (D1)
Villanova (D1)
Michigan (D1)
2 to Hofstra (D1)
High Point (D1)
Furman (D1)
Dartmouth (D1)
2017-
Bucknell (D1)
PENN (D1)
Looks like 22 current players at St.Anthony's going D1 lacrosse, pretty impressive list of schools thus far. I hope this info helps your wondering of SA.
Not a lot of top level schools listed there, definitely not worth going private to get into most of those schools. Not impressive!
lol. I HOPE your joking?
I'd say there are about 8 you would brag about there. Many publics are claiming more
These are all VERBAL COMMITMENTS until NLI is signed. No money is discussed for anyone who isn't a SR. ST A's is a great school without a doubt but only so many get into each school from each HS. So you are competing against the smart kids and the Athletes to get into your dream school . Express girls program on other hand is a slow motion train wreck, stay away. Heard a Coach with a good team just bolted to 91, another girls program that is dying. Choose wisely and remember who you are going to be spending 6 summer weekend with!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
No need to wonder, "what kind of school could St.Anthony's be". Answer is below-
St. Anthony's BOYS committed NCAA Programs-
2015-
2 to Boston U (D1)
Penn (D1)
Hopkins (D1)
UMASS (D1)
Army (D1)
Lafayette (D1)
Quinnipac (D1)
Richmond (D1)
High Point (D1)
Wash & Lee (D3)
Sacred heart (D1)
Mt St. Mary (D1)
2 to Tampa (D2)
2016-
Army (D1)
Villanova (D1)
Michigan (D1)
2 to Hofstra (D1)
High Point (D1)
Furman (D1)
Dartmouth (D1)
2017-
Bucknell (D1)
PENN (D1)
Looks like 22 current players at St.Anthony's going D1 lacrosse, pretty impressive list of schools thus far. I hope this info helps your wondering of SA.
Not a lot of top level schools listed there, definitely not worth going private to get into most of those schools. Not impressive!
Post the "many publics". Post the colleges they are committed to and how many per grad class. PLEASE post them here. And also tell me the "8 you would brag about" on this impressive list of student athletes at St.As.
Put up or shut up. On behalf of SAHS, we put up. Now its you turn.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
These are all VERBAL COMMITMENTS until NLI is signed. No money is discussed for anyone who isn't a SR. ST A's is a great school without a doubt but only so many get into each school from each HS. So you are competing against the smart kids and the Athletes to get into your dream school . Express girls program on other hand is a slow motion train wreck, stay away. Heard a Coach with a good team just bolted to 91, another girls program that is dying. Choose wisely and remember who you are going to be spending 6 summer weekend with!
1: Go on the GIRLS site to talk GIRLS lacrosse.
2: Money IS (and has been) discussed. FACT.
3: Do your homework on the lacrosse recruiting seen.
4: Sorry you kid isn't being recruited yet.
5: If your kid WAS being recruited you wouldn't say what you said.
6: Have a good night.
Chaminade class of 2015,
Duke
Colgate
Boston University
Providence
Providence
Yale
Fairfield
Wesleyan
Wesleyan
Dickinson
Binghamton
Amherst
Washington & Lee
Villanova
GO CHAMINADE OR GO HOME
Duke
Colgate
Boston University
Providence
Providence
Yale
Fairfield
Wesleyan
Wesleyan
Dickinson
Binghamton
Amherst
Washington & Lee
Villanova
GO CHAMINADE OR GO HOME
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaminade class of 2015,
Duke
Colgate
Boston University
Providence
Providence
Yale
Fairfield
Wesleyan
Wesleyan
Dickinson
Binghamton
Amherst
Washington & Lee
Villanova
GO CHAMINADE OR GO HOME
Duke
Colgate
Boston University
Providence
Providence
Yale
Fairfield
Wesleyan
Wesleyan
Dickinson
Binghamton
Amherst
Washington & Lee
Villanova
GO CHAMINADE OR GO HOME
Both Chaminade & SA list are very impressive. Publics are catching up rapidly!
Interesting you said,
"Go Fylers or Go Home"?
I think your classy boys have another saying you shouldve shared, "FTF"?
Stands for "F#*K THE FRIARS"?
That's what those good GOD fearing boys say towards SA.
Do they learn that in the Chapel?
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
Want to know how to get a St. A's grad off your porch?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaminade class of 2015,
Duke
Colgate
Boston University
Providence
Providence
Yale
Fairfield
Wesleyan
Wesleyan
Dickinson
Binghamton
Amherst
Washington & Lee
Villanova
GO CHAMINADE OR GO HOME
Duke
Colgate
Boston University
Providence
Providence
Yale
Fairfield
Wesleyan
Wesleyan
Dickinson
Binghamton
Amherst
Washington & Lee
Villanova
GO CHAMINADE OR GO HOME
Both Chaminade & SA list are very impressive. Publics are catching up rapidly!
Interesting you said,
"Go Fylers or Go Home"?
I think your classy boys have another saying you shouldve shared, "FTF"?
Stands for "F#*K THE FRIARS"?
That's what those good GOD fearing boys say towards SA.
Do they learn that in the Chapel?
NExt your going to say they all are getting full rides. Please let us know how many are on full lacrosse scholarships if any?.I can't wait for your response.
...Pay for the pizza...
You clearly have no clue about this school and their academics. The teachers are excellent and the public schools don't compare when it comes to the diversity of advanced class offerings. My kids went to public school through middle school in a very good school district. They went to St. A's in high school and excelled academically. My oldest are in top colleges now and they didn't get there because of athletics. They got there because of a great education, hard word and coming from St. A's actually helped them when it came to college admissions. We still have one at St. A's and there are even more academic options now than before. The academic bar is higher there all around, with 75 as the passing grade.
Yes, it is possible to have great athletics and high academic standards. People tend to think St. A's is only about athletics because they're so good at it. The push for international students isn't to boost their test scores. I guess you think international students are smarter than students here??? That's ridiculous. The idea is to have a diverse student body and for kids to benefit from the interaction with students from all over the world.
Yes, it is possible to have great athletics and high academic standards. People tend to think St. A's is only about athletics because they're so good at it. The push for international students isn't to boost their test scores. I guess you think international students are smarter than students here??? That's ridiculous. The idea is to have a diverse student body and for kids to benefit from the interaction with students from all over the world.
We have the same Catholic vs public school debate about with the same frequency as the hold back debate. Let's all disagree and move on. Was out at express practice yesterday and those Terps look awesome.
Glad its working out for you. My guess is that it has more to do with the motivation and discipline of your children than the insitution though. My comment re the exchange students comes straight from an administrator at your school; yes they can present it as a diversity push--the truth is to improve the academic profile of the student body.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaminade class of 2015,
Duke
Colgate
Boston University
Providence
Providence
Yale
Fairfield
Wesleyan
Wesleyan
Dickinson
Binghamton
Amherst
Washington & Lee
Villanova
GO CHAMINADE OR GO HOME
Duke
Colgate
Boston University
Providence
Providence
Yale
Fairfield
Wesleyan
Wesleyan
Dickinson
Binghamton
Amherst
Washington & Lee
Villanova
GO CHAMINADE OR GO HOME
Both Chaminade & SA list are very impressive. Publics are catching up rapidly!
Interesting you said,
"Go Fylers or Go Home"?
I think your classy boys have another saying you shouldve shared, "FTF"?
Stands for "F#*K THE FRIARS"?
That's what those good GOD fearing boys say towards SA.
Do they learn that in the Chapel?
NExt your going to say they all are getting full rides. Please let us know how many are on full lacrosse scholarships if any?.I can't wait for your response.
Obviously you are new to lacrosse. There is no such thing as a "full ride" in lax. But guarentee most if not all of those Chammy kids got "full ride" academic scholorships.
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We have the same Catholic vs public school debate about with the same frequency as the hold back debate. Let's all disagree and move on. Was out at express practice yesterday and those Terps look awesome.
What year?
Well there is another reason for St. A's to be actively soliciting wealthy Asian exchange students--they pay double--which should help address the fiscal predicatment our Franciscan brothers have gotten us into due to over expansion and unfufilled pledges froma few years back-both large and small. At least they realize the academic infrastructure and resources need to catch up to the athletic.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
No need to wonder, "what kind of school could St.Anthony's be". Answer is below-
St. Anthony's BOYS committed NCAA Programs-
2015-
2 to Boston U (D1)
Penn (D1)
Hopkins (D1)
UMASS (D1)
Army (D1)
Lafayette (D1)
Quinnipac (D1)
Richmond (D1)
High Point (D1)
Wash & Lee (D3)
Sacred heart (D1)
Mt St. Mary (D1)
2 to Tampa (D2)
2016-
Army (D1)
Villanova (D1)
Michigan (D1)
2 to Hofstra (D1)
High Point (D1)
Furman (D1)
Dartmouth (D1)
2017-
Bucknell (D1)
PENN (D1)
Looks like 22 current players at St.Anthony's going D1 lacrosse, pretty impressive list of schools thus far. I hope this info helps your wondering of SA.
Not a lot of top level schools listed there, definitely not worth going private to get into most of those schools. Not impressive!
Post the "many publics". Post the colleges they are committed to and how many per grad class. PLEASE post them here. And also tell me the "8 you would brag about" on this impressive list of student athletes at St.As.
Put up or shut up. On behalf of SAHS, we put up. Now its you turn.
Check out schools like ward Melville, smithtown east, garden city, sachem north for some impressive commits. Think SE is doing much better at the sophomore year currently with 2 Ivies, and 3 other high level schools.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonomous
Is your daughter currently an Express player?...and how many years has she been there?...weighing if we should make the leap to Express..ty
If your daughter is planning on going to St Anthony's HS then it's probably worth a shot
Not so sure about that.It makes ya think, what kind of school could St. Anthonys be?
No need to wonder, "what kind of school could St.Anthony's be". Answer is below-
St. Anthony's BOYS committed NCAA Programs-
2015-
2 to Boston U (D1)
Penn (D1)
Hopkins (D1)
UMASS (D1)
Army (D1)
Lafayette (D1)
Quinnipac (D1)
Richmond (D1)
High Point (D1)
Wash & Lee (D3)
Sacred heart (D1)
Mt St. Mary (D1)
2 to Tampa (D2)
2016-
Army (D1)
Villanova (D1)
Michigan (D1)
2 to Hofstra (D1)
High Point (D1)
Furman (D1)
Dartmouth (D1)
2017-
Bucknell (D1)
PENN (D1)
Looks like 22 current players at St.Anthony's going D1 lacrosse, pretty impressive list of schools thus far. I hope this info helps your wondering of SA.
You go to st. A and wind up at
Tampa
MS
??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaminade class of 2015,
Duke
Colgate
Boston University
Providence
Providence
Yale
Fairfield
Wesleyan
Wesleyan
Dickinson
Binghamton
Amherst
Washington & Lee
Villanova
GO CHAMINADE OR GO HOME
Duke
Colgate
Boston University
Providence
Providence
Yale
Fairfield
Wesleyan
Wesleyan
Dickinson
Binghamton
Amherst
Washington & Lee
Villanova
GO CHAMINADE OR GO HOME
Both Chaminade & SA list are very impressive. Publics are catching up rapidly!
Interesting you said,
"Go Fylers or Go Home"?
I think your classy boys have another saying you shouldve shared, "FTF"?
Stands for "F#*K THE FRIARS"?
That's what those good GOD fearing boys say towards SA.
Do they learn that in the Chapel?
not MY "classy boys" - I am a huge fan of Chaminade but do not send my sons there. I am a public school guy all the way, I posted that as a rebuttal to the silly post that St A was the top school on LI, it is not even the top school on Wolf Hill Rd.
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Well there is another reason for St. A's to be actively soliciting wealthy Asian exchange students--they pay double--which should help address the fiscal predicatment our Franciscan brothers have gotten us into due to over expansion and unfufilled pledges froma few years back-both large and small. At least they realize the academic infrastructure and resources need to catch up to the athletic.
And they are putting $$ into acdemics - Intel Program and new labs are just 2 examples.
Hey, some knucklehead is suggesting a 2025 team. Please tell me this is a joke! After the poor job and bad experience the 2024 team had last year wouldn't it be a shame to do it again to more trusting families.
Please say it is just a sick joke.
Please say it is just a sick joke.
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St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
That's crazy. Look at Schrieber and Chanenchuck getting into Princeton and im sure dozens of others going to IVys from St A's. No matter how good of a lax player you are, Princeton does not bend it's academic hurdle so much that they set these kids up for being academically ineligible to play. That wouldnt be helpful to ether the coach or the kid.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
That's crazy. Look at Schrieber and Chanenchuck getting into Princeton and im sure dozens of others going to IVys from St A's. No matter how good of a lax player you are, Princeton does not bend it's academic hurdle so much that they set these kids up for being academically ineligible to play. That wouldnt be helpful to ether the coach or the kid.
Why would you answer them. They don't have a kid(s) that go there (I do) why bother entertaining somebody as totally clueless as there are. All my kids are fortunate enough where as I can send them to Catholic school and we constantly run into the public schoolers who feel compelled to knock down private school. You all know the type.. One piece of bad press comes out about a school, they feel compelled to forward it or post it on some social media site - as to see SEE! Drop it, it is exhausting.
Anyone know anything about team 2 for 2017?
What is your question about team 2?
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What is your question about team 2?
The Terps are the A team so what level team is team 2? B or C? In past years the express has had a few low level C teams at the 2017 age.
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St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
I've heard this time and time again and it makes me cringe. Where do you people get off bashing St A's academics? Exactly on what basis do you make these assessments? Innuendo and hearsay but I never see any facts to back it up. Because grade inflation is rampant everywhere, the great equalizer is SAT and ACT scores. I'd like to see the standardized test scores of St A's students up against any other school on the Island.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
I've heard this time and time again and it makes me cringe. Where do you people get off bashing St A's academics? Exactly on what basis do you make these assessments? Innuendo and hearsay but I never see any facts to back it up. Because grade inflation is rampant everywhere, the great equalizer is SAT and ACT scores. I'd like to see the standardized test scores of St A's students up against any other school on the Island.
agreed, that why all those kids that get into both always go to St. Anthony and Never Chaminade
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
I've heard this time and time again and it makes me cringe. Where do you people get off bashing St A's academics? Exactly on what basis do you make these assessments? Innuendo and hearsay but I never see any facts to back it up. Because grade inflation is rampant everywhere, the great equalizer is SAT and ACT scores. I'd like to see the standardized test scores of St A's students up against any other school on the Island.
Ok, so I an a public school teacher who tutors St. Anthony's kids. I can tell you that their curriculum is horrendous and they are not learning what they should be. I am literally embarrassed for their teachers. If you only knew what goes on there, you would never pay to send your kids. This comes from the horses mouth. A lot of smoke and mirrors!
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Well there is another reason for St. A's to be actively soliciting wealthy Asian exchange students--they pay double--which should help address the fiscal predicatment our Franciscan brothers have gotten us into due to over expansion and unfufilled pledges froma few years back-both large and small. At least they realize the academic infrastructure and resources need to catch up to the athletic.
Winner! Winner!
Did this poster just say that kids choose St A's over Chaminade because of the better education?? That is such a ridiculous comment. The test scores required to get into Chaminade are significantly higher than the scores for St A's. St A's is a great school but this poster has absolutely NO Idea of the truth.
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I think Team 3 isn't even on the radar...We got Team 2 but will prob take a pass..
Anyone ever figure out what team 2 means?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think Team 3 isn't even on the radar...We got Team 2 but will prob take a pass..
Anyone ever figure out what team 2 means?
Yes , it means no attention will be paid.
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Did this poster just say that kids choose St A's over Chaminade because of the better education?? That is such a ridiculous comment. The test scores required to get into Chaminade are significantly higher than the scores for St A's. St A's is a great school but this poster has absolutely NO Idea of the truth.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Well there is another reason for St. A's to be actively soliciting wealthy Asian exchange students--they pay double--which should help address the fiscal predicatment our Franciscan brothers have gotten us into due to over expansion and unfufilled pledges froma few years back-both large and small. At least they realize the academic infrastructure and resources need to catch up to the athletic.
And they are putting $$ into acdemics - Intel Program and new labs are just 2 examples.
My public has had INTEL for 14 years already, sheesh.
A baby sitter of ours sttends St. A's but dates a Chaminade guy. I asked to describe the difference between the kids she goes to school with and the people she hangs around with from her boyfriends school and her response was (for what its worth) was that the Chaminade guys were more "clean cut" and the St. A's guys more "guido".
Chaminade/Kellenberg are almost completely electronic at this point. text books are rare, its all ipads.
Guidos on long island? No way come on man. there aint no guidos on lawn guyland.
Gee thanks that was a BIG help. Now I can decide where to send my kid. Whew!!
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A baby sitter of ours sttends St. A's but dates a Chaminade guy. I asked to describe the difference between the kids she goes to school with and the people she hangs around with from her boyfriends school and her response was (for what its worth) was that the Chaminade guys were more "clean cut" and the St. A's guys more "guido".
Could it be demographics. This is not an attempt to insult but an observation. One is an all boys school the other isnt. One attracts mainly from north shore nassau county the other suffolk.
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Chaminade/Kellenberg are almost completely electronic at this point. text books are rare, its all ipads.
And you don't think that is happening at public schools? Burry your head some more!
the guy that fixes my car is a St. A's grad and I think he is the best!
If you are into bling, baggy jean look, hair gel, the color black and muscle tee's--you can't go wrong at St. A's. Would definitely be a good fit for you.
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A baby sitter of ours sttends St. A's but dates a Chaminade guy. I asked to describe the difference between the kids she goes to school with and the people she hangs around with from her boyfriends school and her response was (for what its worth) was that the Chaminade guys were more "clean cut" and the St. A's guys more "guido".
Could it be demographics. This is not an attempt to insult but an observation. One is an all boys school the other isnt. One attracts mainly from north shore nassau county the other suffolk.
More Low- Brows out east
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A baby sitter of ours sttends St. A's but dates a Chaminade guy. I asked to describe the difference between the kids she goes to school with and the people she hangs around with from her boyfriends school and her response was (for what its worth) was that the Chaminade guys were more "clean cut" and the St. A's guys more "guido".
Thinly veiled racist remark about Italian-Americans? Is that what they teach over there at Chaminade? I guess when you send your kids to school in such a homogeneous environment, that's what they learn. At least your sitter found a kid at Chaminade that likes girls. In this day and age, your son can't go to school with female students? No adjustment, or awkwardness when they go college after four years of that? Right? Perfectly normal...
Really???? Look at your conversation on a lax thread. How about some lax talk. Like Express teams at these years 2023, 2022, 2020, 2018 & 2017, will either be 1 or 2 in their respective age group.
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Really???? Look at your conversation on a lax thread. How about some lax talk. Like Express teams at these years 2023, 2022, 2020, 2018 & 2017, will either be 1 or 2 in their respective age group.
What about 2021?
Other than 2017. 2nd
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A baby sitter of ours sttends St. A's but dates a Chaminade guy. I asked to describe the difference between the kids she goes to school with and the people she hangs around with from her boyfriends school and her response was (for what its worth) was that the Chaminade guys were more "clean cut" and the St. A's guys more "guido".
Thinly veiled racist remark about Italian-Americans? Is that what they teach over there at Chaminade? I guess when you send your kids to school in such a homogeneous environment, that's what they learn. At least your sitter found a kid at Chaminade that likes girls. In this day and age, your son can't go to school with female students? No adjustment, or awkwardness when they go college after four years of that? Right? Perfectly normal...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
A baby sitter of ours sttends St. A's but dates a Chaminade guy. I asked to describe the difference between the kids she goes to school with and the people she hangs around with from her boyfriends school and her response was (for what its worth) was that the Chaminade guys were more "clean cut" and the St. A's guys more "guido".
Thinly veiled racist remark about Italian-Americans? Is that what they teach over there at Chaminade? I guess when you send your kids to school in such a homogeneous environment, that's what they learn. At least your sitter found a kid at Chaminade that likes girls. In this day and age, your son can't go to school with female students? No adjustment, or awkwardness when they go college after four years of that? Right? Perfectly normal...
I think we should poll all babysitters and create a thread for them. I don't think this one racist babysitter is a big enough group to give any real feedback. This sound like important discussions you and your babysitter are having about her boyfriend. As long as she (or her parents) doesnt think it's creepy, keep the feedback Coming !
New addition to express my son attended 2 practices so far for 2021 cudas team, coaches run a steady productive practice and from the looks of the talent seems like this team was well chosen .
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the guy that fixes my car is a St. A's grad and I think he is the best!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
As the parent of a St Antony's alumni who DID NOT PLAY SPORTS THERE. I have to say, you have no idea what you're talking about! The academics are rigorous, challenging, up to date and on target for helping the students attend great schools.
We live in one of the best districts on long island and chose to send our child there. Our child received a top notch education and was enriched by the multicultural, multiracial demographic of the student population.
Going there is about the whole experience. Something clearly you just don't get. There are rules and they are not made to be broken like all the public schools. They wear uniforms which puts all students in the same level when it comes to dressing and eliminates the competitive label conscious environment of dressing and eliminates the provocative dressing by the female students. My local high school looks like the playboy mansion most mornings as the girls are heading in.
So bash it all you want the reality is, private school students applications end up in a different pile on the college admissions table.
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A baby sitter of ours sttends St. A's but dates a Chaminade guy. I asked to describe the difference between the kids she goes to school with and the people she hangs around with from her boyfriends school and her response was (for what its worth) was that the Chaminade guys were more "clean cut" and the St. A's guys more "guido".
Per haps you should educate your babysitter on the politically incorrect reference of "guido".
Our daughter attended St Anthony's and had friends at both schools. I have met all of them. The common thread was certainly not "guides" from St A's and "clean cut" boys from chaminade.
You are attempting to classify 425 students at one school and 600+ at another based upon your babysitter's sophomoric evaluation?? really? or were you just trying to take a stab at the boys who go to St A's??
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Really???? Look at your conversation on a lax thread. How about some lax talk. Like Express teams at these years 2023, 2022, 2020, 2018 & 2017, will either be 1 or 2 in their respective age group.
What about 2021?
Don't know anything about them, except igloo, 91 TLI and Icon are pretty good. But I am sure coach Ben can get them prepared to be n elite team.
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A baby sitter of ours sttends St. A's but dates a Chaminade guy. I asked to describe the difference between the kids she goes to school with and the people she hangs around with from her boyfriends school and her response was (for what its worth) was that the Chaminade guys were more "clean cut" and the St. A's guys more "guido".
Thinly veiled racist remark about Italian-Americans? Is that what they teach over there at Chaminade? I guess when you send your kids to school in such a homogeneous environment, that's what they learn. At least your sitter found a kid at Chaminade that likes girls. In this day and age, your son can't go to school with female students? No adjustment, or awkwardness when they go college after four years of that? Right? Perfectly normal...
Typical Chaminade kind of response. There could never be a downside to going to the almighty Chaminade, so clueless it's frightening.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A baby sitter of ours sttends St. A's but dates a Chaminade guy. I asked to describe the difference between the kids she goes to school with and the people she hangs around with from her boyfriends school and her response was (for what its worth) was that the Chaminade guys were more "clean cut" and the St. A's guys more "guido".
Per haps you should educate your babysitter on the politically incorrect reference of "guido".
Our daughter attended St Anthony's and had friends at both schools. I have met all of them. The common thread was certainly not "guides" from St A's and "clean cut" boys from chaminade.
You are attempting to classify 425 students at one school and 600+ at another based upon your babysitter's sophomoric evaluation?? really? or were you just trying to take a stab at the boys who go to St A's??
"Chaminade boys are more clean cut"? OMG, wake up and take a peek at some of the instagram & twitter accounts of your CLEAN CUT angels. Every HS everywhere has some level of issues with kids on social media, drugs & fighting no matter private or public schools.
But to you Chaminade people, please dont think the boys at that school are "great kids". You have many bad ones like everyone else. Also, tell your pretend babysitter she is incorrect.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
the guy that fixes my car is a St. A's grad and I think he is the best!
that is funny, but in all seriousness the guy who fixes my pipes (literally not figuratively) - ( for all you public school folks that means for real not made up) kid plays for fl$ and he drives a nicer car and lives in a nicer house then I do.
If private school parents really believe public schools kids applications wind up in "another pile" you are seriously delusional. You really think a university gives a damn where the 50-60k comes from.
The valedectorian at any public has the same chance at a top school as the Val from any private.
Been there done that and FYI
SAT/ACT scores trumps all of it. Those exams are the only determining factor in who gets in and who does not.
The valedectorian at any public has the same chance at a top school as the Val from any private.
Been there done that and FYI
SAT/ACT scores trumps all of it. Those exams are the only determining factor in who gets in and who does not.
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If private school parents really believe public schools kids applications wind up in "another pile" you are seriously delusional. You really think a university gives a damn where the 50-60k comes from.
The valedectorian at any public has the same chance at a top school as the Val from any private.
Been there done that and FYI
SAT/ACT scores trumps all of it. Those exams are the only determining factor in who gets in and who does not.
The valedectorian at any public has the same chance at a top school as the Val from any private.
Been there done that and FYI
SAT/ACT scores trumps all of it. Those exams are the only determining factor in who gets in and who does not.
Ha. You wish sat/act was the tie breaker. Public val has a great shot but will get combined with pvt top 10 percent not the val. Publics also capped at one or two per school. Pvt get multiples into top schools. On the margin they will also take the kid that doesn't need grants.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
the guy that fixes my car is a St. A's grad and I think he is the best!
that is funny, but in all seriousness the guy who fixes my pipes (literally not figuratively) - ( for all you public school folks that means for real not made up) kid plays for fl$ and he drives a nicer car and lives in a nicer house then I do.
That's sad - but it is true. We have a summer house in the hamptons. The biggest houses are owned by the lawn guys and the pool guys. So why are so many of these parents nuts about getting their kids into college by using lacrosse. The family business looks like a better way to go - unless it's really more about the parents then the kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If private school parents really believe public schools kids applications wind up in "another pile" you are seriously delusional. You really think a university gives a damn where the 50-60k comes from.
The valedectorian at any public has the same chance at a top school as the Val from any private.
Been there done that and FYI
SAT/ACT scores trumps all of it. Those exams are the only determining factor in who gets in and who does not.
The valedectorian at any public has the same chance at a top school as the Val from any private.
Been there done that and FYI
SAT/ACT scores trumps all of it. Those exams are the only determining factor in who gets in and who does not.
Not true. SAT is rapidly losing importance. GPA is key.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
the guy that fixes my car is a St. A's grad and I think he is the best!
And both make more money than you! LMFAO
Perception of academic ranking as explained by a friend of mine who looked into a lot of them:
1) Kellenberg
2) Holy Trinity
3) St Johns the Baptist
4) St Anthony's
5) Chaminade
6) St Marys
1) Kellenberg
2) Holy Trinity
3) St Johns the Baptist
4) St Anthony's
5) Chaminade
6) St Marys
Believe GPA is the deciding factor at your own peril. http://www.fairtest.org/university/optional. Not one top 25 school on that list. One of the few better schools is Holy Cross and I can give you an earful how Holy Cross manipulates the test optional submissions. I have been thru 3 college admission cycles, 2014 the most current, so I do know the game quite well. Go ahead and tell umichigan or Boston college, Georgetown your kid isn't sending board scores, come back and tell us how it works out.
Was your friend drunk? Holy Trinity? Seriously!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Perception of academic ranking as explained by a friend of mine who looked into a lot of them:
1) Kellenberg
2) Holy Trinity
3) St Johns the Baptist
4) St Anthony's
5) Chaminade
6) St Marys
1) Kellenberg
2) Holy Trinity
3) St Johns the Baptist
4) St Anthony's
5) Chaminade
6) St Marys
Your friend, sorry to say must have a kid going to Kellenberg. My son has friends who aren't that bright but got into Kellenberg and St. Anthony's but could not get into Chaminade. His ranking is wrong.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Perception of academic ranking as explained by a friend of mine who looked into a lot of them:
1) Kellenberg
2) Holy Trinity
3) St Johns the Baptist
4) St Anthony's
5) Chaminade
6) St Marys
1) Kellenberg
2) Holy Trinity
3) St Johns the Baptist
4) St Anthony's
5) Chaminade
6) St Marys
Your friend, sorry to say must have a kid going to Kellenberg. My son has friends who aren't that bright but got into Kellenberg and St. Anthony's but could not get into Chaminade. His ranking is wrong.
Chams is above St. A's, and they are both above the rest of the pack, BUT, I thought this was an Express forum?!
Instead, it's like a romper room filled with parents slinging poo at each other like monkeys at the zoo!
Get over yourselves. Friendly competition, where adversaries actually respect one another....can we get back to that in LI? I bet the kids respect one another, why can't the parents?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Perception of academic ranking as explained by a friend of mine who looked into a lot of them:
1) Kellenberg
2) Holy Trinity
3) St Johns the Baptist
4) St Anthony's
5) Chaminade
6) St Marys
1) Kellenberg
2) Holy Trinity
3) St Johns the Baptist
4) St Anthony's
5) Chaminade
6) St Marys
Your friend, sorry to say must have a kid going to Kellenberg. My son has friends who aren't that bright but got into Kellenberg and St. Anthony's but could not get into Chaminade. His ranking is wrong.
I am not the one who posted that list. I agree its way out of whack.
Why is there always this thing where Chaminade parents think that every kid wants to go to Chaminade?? Like EVRY kid envy's kids that go to Chaminade?? No, not true.
My son is a very strong student and wanted NO part of Chaminade. And BELIEVE IT OR NOT, many boys don't want to go there because they like to socialize with females and the school is basically in Queens. I am not saying that to be sarcastic, but trust that, many kids DONT WANT TO GO THERE.
I know its a great school, our family respects that. But we feel H.S. should be a mix of academics, sports & social life. He is a upper 90's average student committed D1 to a top academic university. And he goes to the "horrible" school called St.Anthony's. He's very happy, I hope yours is also.
Back to normal programming...
With LI Express having multiple teams (Long Island x3, NYC and Westchester 'North'), do they all play at same or different tournaments? Also, when they appear on tournament draws, are the teams listed as just Long Island Express, making it hard for opponents to know which Express team they're actually playing?
Any thoughts, feedback appreciated.
With LI Express having multiple teams (Long Island x3, NYC and Westchester 'North'), do they all play at same or different tournaments? Also, when they appear on tournament draws, are the teams listed as just Long Island Express, making it hard for opponents to know which Express team they're actually playing?
Any thoughts, feedback appreciated.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Perception of academic ranking as explained by a friend of mine who looked into a lot of them:
1) Kellenberg
2) Holy Trinity
3) St Johns the Baptist
4) St Anthony's
5) Chaminade
6) St Marys
1) Kellenberg
2) Holy Trinity
3) St Johns the Baptist
4) St Anthony's
5) Chaminade
6) St Marys
Your friend, sorry to say must have a kid going to Kellenberg. My son has friends who aren't that bright but got into Kellenberg and St. Anthony's but could not get into Chaminade. His ranking is wrong.
I am not the one who posted that list. I agree its way out of whack.
Why is there always this thing where Chaminade parents think that every kid wants to go to Chaminade?? Like EVRY kid envy's kids that go to Chaminade?? No, not true.
My son is a very strong student and wanted NO part of Chaminade. And BELIEVE IT OR NOT, many boys don't want to go there because they like to socialize with females and the school is basically in Queens. I am not saying that to be sarcastic, but trust that, many kids DONT WANT TO GO THERE.
I know its a great school, our family respects that. But we feel H.S. should be a mix of academics, sports & social life. He is a upper 90's average student committed D1 to a top academic university. And he goes to the "horrible" school called St.Anthony's. He's very happy, I hope yours is also.
Folks do understand that boys who go to Chaminade still socialize with girls? They had a freshman dance a few weeks ago and the yound ladies outnumber the young men by a bunch and these young ladies were from all over the island - attending both public and catholic schools.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Back to normal programming...
With LI Express having multiple teams (Long Island x3, NYC and Westchester 'North'), do they all play at same or different tournaments? Also, when they appear on tournament draws, are the teams listed as just Long Island Express, making it hard for opponents to know which Express team they're actually playing?
Any thoughts, feedback appreciated.
With LI Express having multiple teams (Long Island x3, NYC and Westchester 'North'), do they all play at same or different tournaments? Also, when they appear on tournament draws, are the teams listed as just Long Island Express, making it hard for opponents to know which Express team they're actually playing?
Any thoughts, feedback appreciated.
usually not the same tournaments. team are listed as;
express North
express NYC
express [name]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Back to normal programming...
With LI Express having multiple teams (Long Island x3, NYC and Westchester 'North'), do they all play at same or different tournaments? Also, when they appear on tournament draws, are the teams listed as just Long Island Express, making it hard for opponents to know which Express team they're actually playing?
Any thoughts, feedback appreciated.
With LI Express having multiple teams (Long Island x3, NYC and Westchester 'North'), do they all play at same or different tournaments? Also, when they appear on tournament draws, are the teams listed as just Long Island Express, making it hard for opponents to know which Express team they're actually playing?
Any thoughts, feedback appreciated.
they do play in the same tournaments from time to time and were notated last year as Express NYC and Express North
What are the fees to play on:
LI Express - LI
Express North
LI Express NYC
LI Express - LI
Express North
LI Express NYC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Believe GPA is the deciding factor at your own peril. http://www.fairtest.org/university/optional. Not one top 25 school on that list. One of the few better schools is Holy Cross and I can give you an earful how Holy Cross manipulates the test optional submissions. I have been thru 3 college admission cycles, 2014 the most current, so I do know the game quite well. Go ahead and tell umichigan or Boston college, Georgetown your kid isn't sending board scores, come back and tell us how it works out.
Do any of the patriot league schools give athletic and/or acedemic $?
are you still part of Express?
does saint Dominic rank in those listings?...heard the lax program is on the way back?
Let's please redirect back to why we are all here, lax.
Truth be told none of these schools are top academically, top for maybe lacrosse but that's it folks. We all read the media school rankings and none of these are on them. Let's stick to lax, this is not greatschools.org.
Truth be told none of these schools are top academically, top for maybe lacrosse but that's it folks. We all read the media school rankings and none of these are on them. Let's stick to lax, this is not greatschools.org.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are the fees to play on:
LI Express - LI
Express North
LI Express NYC
LI Express - LI
Express North
LI Express NYC
You know what they say, "if you have to ask, you can't afford it."
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are the fees to play on:
LI Express - LI
Express North
LI Express NYC
LI Express - LI
Express North
LI Express NYC
You know what they say, "if you have to ask, you can't afford it."
couple of grand is the base.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
As the parent of a St Antony's alumni who DID NOT PLAY SPORTS THERE. I have to say, you have no idea what you're talking about! The academics are rigorous, challenging, up to date and on target for helping the students attend great schools.
We live in one of the best districts on long island and chose to send our child there. Our child received a top notch education and was enriched by the multicultural, multiracial demographic of the student population.
Going there is about the whole experience. Something clearly you just don't get. There are rules and they are not made to be broken like all the public schools. They wear uniforms which puts all students in the same level when it comes to dressing and eliminates the competitive label conscious environment of dressing and eliminates the provocative dressing by the female students. My local high school looks like the playboy mansion most mornings as the girls are heading in.
So bash it all you want the reality is, private school students applications end up in a different pile on the college admissions table.
You're talking about a catholic school, not a private school. Colleges/Universities don't view catholic school the same way that they view traditional private schools (think Friends Academy, Portledge, Rye Country Day, Brunswick, etc.). Long Island catholic schools require that you take a very easy test to gain admission, most, if not all, kids that take that test pass. The education at a catholic school is not much different, and is unlikely to be superior to the better public school districts on long island. The ideology at a catholic school is clearly different and not for everyone - and let's not talk about the culture at catholic schools (close minded socially and teaches only the catholic way). There's no right answer, it's a personal decision and the economic demographic of a catholic school is inferior to some of the better school districts on long island. Chaminade - all boys (kind of weird) catholic school / St. Anthony's - coed catholic school. Both great schools but let's stop the bragging, they're nothing special and are not viewed so by colleges/universities.
Let's get back to lax talk.
...pay for the pizza. that was funny.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
As the parent of a St Antony's alumni who DID NOT PLAY SPORTS THERE. I have to say, you have no idea what you're talking about! The academics are rigorous, challenging, up to date and on target for helping the students attend great schools.
We live in one of the best districts on long island and chose to send our child there. Our child received a top notch education and was enriched by the multicultural, multiracial demographic of the student population.
Going there is about the whole experience. Something clearly you just don't get. There are rules and they are not made to be broken like all the public schools. They wear uniforms which puts all students in the same level when it comes to dressing and eliminates the competitive label conscious environment of dressing and eliminates the provocative dressing by the female students. My local high school looks like the playboy mansion most mornings as the girls are heading in.
So bash it all you want the reality is, private school students applications end up in a different pile on the college admissions table.
You're talking about a catholic school, not a private school. Colleges/Universities don't view catholic school the same way that they view traditional private schools (think Friends Academy, Portledge, Rye Country Day, Brunswick, etc.). Long Island catholic schools require that you take a very easy test to gain admission, most, if not all, kids that take that test pass. The education at a catholic school is not much different, and is unlikely to be superior to the better public school districts on long island. The ideology at a catholic school is clearly different and not for everyone - and let's not talk about the culture at catholic schools (close minded socially and teaches only the catholic way). There's no right answer, it's a personal decision and the economic demographic of a catholic school is inferior to some of the better school districts on long island. Chaminade - all boys (kind of weird) catholic school / St. Anthony's - coed catholic school. Both great schools but let's stop the bragging, they're nothing special and are not viewed so by colleges/universities.
Let's get back to lax talk.
Do they teach evolution? Or did the lax god create everything?
St Doms lax won Class A 2 of last 3 years and moving up to Class AA this year. Academically superior over several on this list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
As the parent of a St Antony's alumni who DID NOT PLAY SPORTS THERE. I have to say, you have no idea what you're talking about! The academics are rigorous, challenging, up to date and on target for helping the students attend great schools.
We live in one of the best districts on long island and chose to send our child there. Our child received a top notch education and was enriched by the multicultural, multiracial demographic of the student population.
Going there is about the whole experience. Something clearly you just don't get. There are rules and they are not made to be broken like all the public schools. They wear uniforms which puts all students in the same level when it comes to dressing and eliminates the competitive label conscious environment of dressing and eliminates the provocative dressing by the female students. My local high school looks like the playboy mansion most mornings as the girls are heading in.
So bash it all you want the reality is, private school students applications end up in a different pile on the college admissions table.
You're talking about a catholic school, not a private school. Colleges/Universities don't view catholic school the same way that they view traditional private schools (think Friends Academy, Portledge, Rye Country Day, Brunswick, etc.). Long Island catholic schools require that you take a very easy test to gain admission, most, if not all, kids that take that test pass. The education at a catholic school is not much different, and is unlikely to be superior to the better public school districts on long island. The ideology at a catholic school is clearly different and not for everyone - and let's not talk about the culture at catholic schools (close minded socially and teaches only the catholic way). There's no right answer, it's a personal decision and the economic demographic of a catholic school is inferior to some of the better school districts on long island. Chaminade - all boys (kind of weird) catholic school / St. Anthony's - coed catholic school. Both great schools but let's stop the bragging, they're nothing special and are not viewed so by colleges/universities.
Let's get back to lax talk.
You are incorrect. St. Anthony's Chaminade Kellenberg etc. Are considered private schools by universities and therefore your child's college application ends up in the "private" school pile rather then the substantially larger "public" school pile.
That said my child attends St. Anthony's and it's not for the pile their application will end up in, it's for the overall experience it offers which is far superior to that of any public school on Li period.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
As the parent of a St Antony's alumni who DID NOT PLAY SPORTS THERE. I have to say, you have no idea what you're talking about! The academics are rigorous, challenging, up to date and on target for helping the students attend great schools.
We live in one of the best districts on long island and chose to send our child there. Our child received a top notch education and was enriched by the multicultural, multiracial demographic of the student population.
Going there is about the whole experience. Something clearly you just don't get. There are rules and they are not made to be broken like all the public schools. They wear uniforms which puts all students in the same level when it comes to dressing and eliminates the competitive label conscious environment of dressing and eliminates the provocative dressing by the female students. My local high school looks like the playboy mansion most mornings as the girls are heading in.
So bash it all you want the reality is, private school students applications end up in a different pile on the college admissions table.
You're talking about a catholic school, not a private school. Colleges/Universities don't view catholic school the same way that they view traditional private schools (think Friends Academy, Portledge, Rye Country Day, Brunswick, etc.). Long Island catholic schools require that you take a very easy test to gain admission, most, if not all, kids that take that test pass. The education at a catholic school is not much different, and is unlikely to be superior to the better public school districts on long island. The ideology at a catholic school is clearly different and not for everyone - and let's not talk about the culture at catholic schools (close minded socially and teaches only the catholic way). There's no right answer, it's a personal decision and the economic demographic of a catholic school is inferior to some of the better school districts on long island. Chaminade - all boys (kind of weird) catholic school / St. Anthony's - coed catholic school. Both great schools but let's stop the bragging, they're nothing special and are not viewed so by colleges/universities.
Let's get back to lax talk.
You are incorrect. St. Anthony's Chaminade Kellenberg etc. Are considered private schools by universities and therefore your child's college application ends up in the "private" school pile rather then the substantially larger "public" school pile.
That said my child attends St. Anthony's and it's not for the pile their application will end up in, it's for the overall experience it offers which is far superior to that of any public school on Li period.
That's just not true, but you're entitled to your opinion. Check out the academics and athletics that you get at CSH, Manhasset, Garden City and I'd take that experience over a dogmatic, one-dimensional catholic school education any day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
As the parent of a St Antony's alumni who DID NOT PLAY SPORTS THERE. I have to say, you have no idea what you're talking about! The academics are rigorous, challenging, up to date and on target for helping the students attend great schools.
We live in one of the best districts on long island and chose to send our child there. Our child received a top notch education and was enriched by the multicultural, multiracial demographic of the student population.
Going there is about the whole experience. Something clearly you just don't get. There are rules and they are not made to be broken like all the public schools. They wear uniforms which puts all students in the same level when it comes to dressing and eliminates the competitive label conscious environment of dressing and eliminates the provocative dressing by the female students. My local high school looks like the playboy mansion most mornings as the girls are heading in.
So bash it all you want the reality is, private school students applications end up in a different pile on the college admissions table.
You're talking about a catholic school, not a private school. Colleges/Universities don't view catholic school the same way that they view traditional private schools (think Friends Academy, Portledge, Rye Country Day, Brunswick, etc.). Long Island catholic schools require that you take a very easy test to gain admission, most, if not all, kids that take that test pass. The education at a catholic school is not much different, and is unlikely to be superior to the better public school districts on long island. The ideology at a catholic school is clearly different and not for everyone - and let's not talk about the culture at catholic schools (close minded socially and teaches only the catholic way). There's no right answer, it's a personal decision and the economic demographic of a catholic school is inferior to some of the better school districts on long island. Chaminade - all boys (kind of weird) catholic school / St. Anthony's - coed catholic school. Both great schools but let's stop the bragging, they're nothing special and are not viewed so by colleges/universities.
Let's get back to lax talk.
You are incorrect. St. Anthony's Chaminade Kellenberg etc. Are considered private schools by universities and therefore your child's college application ends up in the "private" school pile rather then the substantially larger "public" school pile.
That said my child attends St. Anthony's and it's not for the pile their application will end up in, it's for the overall experience it offers which is far superior to that of any public school on Li period.
I just talked to an admissions officer at a highly regarded university. She said that the catholic schools are put into their own pile of applications, not included in the more prestigious, true "private" school pile, and also not included in the public school pile, which this admissions officer said is looked upon more favorably than the evangelical catholic school pile.
can someone start a st. tony vs chammy thread.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
As the parent of a St Antony's alumni who DID NOT PLAY SPORTS THERE. I have to say, you have no idea what you're talking about! The academics are rigorous, challenging, up to date and on target for helping the students attend great schools.
We live in one of the best districts on long island and chose to send our child there. Our child received a top notch education and was enriched by the multicultural, multiracial demographic of the student population.
Going there is about the whole experience. Something clearly you just don't get. There are rules and they are not made to be broken like all the public schools. They wear uniforms which puts all students in the same level when it comes to dressing and eliminates the competitive label conscious environment of dressing and eliminates the provocative dressing by the female students. My local high school looks like the playboy mansion most mornings as the girls are heading in.
So bash it all you want the reality is, private school students applications end up in a different pile on the college admissions table.
You're talking about a catholic school, not a private school. Colleges/Universities don't view catholic school the same way that they view traditional private schools (think Friends Academy, Portledge, Rye Country Day, Brunswick, etc.). Long Island catholic schools require that you take a very easy test to gain admission, most, if not all, kids that take that test pass. The education at a catholic school is not much different, and is unlikely to be superior to the better public school districts on long island. The ideology at a catholic school is clearly different and not for everyone - and let's not talk about the culture at catholic schools (close minded socially and teaches only the catholic way). There's no right answer, it's a personal decision and the economic demographic of a catholic school is inferior to some of the better school districts on long island. Chaminade - all boys (kind of weird) catholic school / St. Anthony's - coed catholic school. Both great schools but let's stop the bragging, they're nothing special and are not viewed so by colleges/universities.
Let's get back to lax talk.
Some of the Catholic Universities might look favorably on Catholic HS, so I don't think your post is entirely accurate.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can someone start a st. tony vs chammy thread.
amen...(lol)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
As the parent of a St Antony's alumni who DID NOT PLAY SPORTS THERE. I have to say, you have no idea what you're talking about! The academics are rigorous, challenging, up to date and on target for helping the students attend great schools.
We live in one of the best districts on long island and chose to send our child there. Our child received a top notch education and was enriched by the multicultural, multiracial demographic of the student population.
Going there is about the whole experience. Something clearly you just don't get. There are rules and they are not made to be broken like all the public schools. They wear uniforms which puts all students in the same level when it comes to dressing and eliminates the competitive label conscious environment of dressing and eliminates the provocative dressing by the female students. My local high school looks like the playboy mansion most mornings as the girls are heading in.
So bash it all you want the reality is, private school students applications end up in a different pile on the college admissions table.
You're talking about a catholic school, not a private school. Colleges/Universities don't view catholic school the same way that they view traditional private schools (think Friends Academy, Portledge, Rye Country Day, Brunswick, etc.). Long Island catholic schools require that you take a very easy test to gain admission, most, if not all, kids that take that test pass. The education at a catholic school is not much different, and is unlikely to be superior to the better public school districts on long island. The ideology at a catholic school is clearly different and not for everyone - and let's not talk about the culture at catholic schools (close minded socially and teaches only the catholic way). There's no right answer, it's a personal decision and the economic demographic of a catholic school is inferior to some of the better school districts on long island. Chaminade - all boys (kind of weird) catholic school / St. Anthony's - coed catholic school. Both great schools but let's stop the bragging, they're nothing special and are not viewed so by colleges/universities.
Let's get back to lax talk.
Do they teach evolution? Or did the lax god create everything?
They teach the kids to evolve into cheating losers by allowing them to reclassify for non-academic reasons. Check out the 2018 thread! Unreal that Cham would allow this! Not ethical
A St. A's counter to the How do you get the St A's grad off your porch-pay for the pizza joke; How do you get a chaminade football player off your porch? you pick him up and throw him off. Let the rivalry live on. Don't worry Friar's, The Chaminade guys are known to be fair bosses.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
St. A's -- great sports, POOR academics. I know a number of parents that teach there who say they'd never send their kids there. Their latest ploy to improve their test scores and academic rankings is a massive push for foreirgn exchange students. I wonder if the foreigners will know that they pray in a three point stance there... Unless you are in a very weak public district, you are better off staying there.
As the parent of a St Antony's alumni who DID NOT PLAY SPORTS THERE. I have to say, you have no idea what you're talking about! The academics are rigorous, challenging, up to date and on target for helping the students attend great schools.
We live in one of the best districts on long island and chose to send our child there. Our child received a top notch education and was enriched by the multicultural, multiracial demographic of the student population.
Going there is about the whole experience. Something clearly you just don't get. There are rules and they are not made to be broken like all the public schools. They wear uniforms which puts all students in the same level when it comes to dressing and eliminates the competitive label conscious environment of dressing and eliminates the provocative dressing by the female students. My local high school looks like the playboy mansion most mornings as the girls are heading in.
So bash it all you want the reality is, private school students applications end up in a different pile on the college admissions table.
You're talking about a catholic school, not a private school. Colleges/Universities don't view catholic school the same way that they view traditional private schools (think Friends Academy, Portledge, Rye Country Day, Brunswick, etc.). Long Island catholic schools require that you take a very easy test to gain admission, most, if not all, kids that take that test pass. The education at a catholic school is not much different, and is unlikely to be superior to the better public school districts on long island. The ideology at a catholic school is clearly different and not for everyone - and let's not talk about the culture at catholic schools (close minded socially and teaches only the catholic way). There's no right answer, it's a personal decision and the economic demographic of a catholic school is inferior to some of the better school districts on long island. Chaminade - all boys (kind of weird) catholic school / St. Anthony's - coed catholic school. Both great schools but let's stop the bragging, they're nothing special and are not viewed so by colleges/universities.
Let's get back to lax talk.
Do they teach evolution? Or did the lax god create everything?
They teach the kids to evolve into cheating losers by allowing them to reclassify for non-academic reasons. Check out the 2018 thread! Unreal that Cham would allow this! Not ethical
"Cham"?? To whom/what are you referring??
You have no idea what your talking about. St. Anthony's has sports and academics, but, sorry to tell you your academics cannot EVER compare to Chaminade. It's held on a high standard for a reason. I'll show you tests that will make your head spin. A professor at my son's college who went to Chaminade and Harvard said Chaminade was harder for him. When my son went into college to takes tests, kids were crying next to him. He got 4.0 in both semesters in Freshman College because he was well prepared. And, believe me he was not top of his class. He was an honors student, a football player, a lacrosse player, did clubs and matured like a man. I know many people at STA. One of my own teachers is there as a Friar now. There are many good things being done there that have nothing to do with sports. But, be real here. Catholic education is definitely up there on the college pick lists. The underlying culture of Chaminade vs. STA is mostly in the heads of coaches at STA and is carried down year after year to the players. So when your kid is the one who messed up the kick off at the end of big game, you have to be afraid to go to school at STA (which I know for a fact this happened) vs. Chaminade where 200 people go up to you and say don't worry about it. You cannot compare these two schools and the significance of Chaminade education and how it affects your future.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
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You have no idea what your talking about. St. Anthony's has sports and academics, but, sorry to tell you your academics cannot EVER compare to Chaminade. It's held on a high standard for a reason. I'll show you tests that will make your head spin. A professor at my son's college who went to Chaminade and Harvard said Chaminade was harder for him. When my son went into college to takes tests, kids were crying next to him. He got 4.0 in both semesters in Freshman College because he was well prepared. And, believe me he was not top of his class. He was an honors student, a football player, a lacrosse player, did clubs and matured like a man. I know many people at STA. One of my own teachers is there as a Friar now. There are many good things being done there that have nothing to do with sports. But, be real here. Catholic education is definitely up there on the college pick lists. The underlying culture of Chaminade vs. STA is mostly in the heads of coaches at STA and is carried down year after year to the players. So when your kid is the one who messed up the kick off at the end of big game, you have to be afraid to go to school at STA (which I know for a fact this happened) vs. Chaminade where 200 people go up to you and say don't worry about it. You cannot compare these two schools and the significance of Chaminade education and how it affects your future.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
Chaminade is full of cheaters as is EXPRESS holding kids back to reclassify just so they can win lacrosse games. PATHETIC.
Certainly would make an interesting article in NEWSDAY.
If the school is so prestigious and the kid is so smart and athletic, why hold him back to be a 2019 goalie instead of 2018.
Certainly would make an interesting article in NEWSDAY.
If the school is so prestigious and the kid is so smart and athletic, why hold him back to be a 2019 goalie instead of 2018.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have no idea what your talking about. St. Anthony's has sports and academics, but, sorry to tell you your academics cannot EVER compare to Chaminade. It's held on a high standard for a reason. I'll show you tests that will make your head spin. A professor at my son's college who went to Chaminade and Harvard said Chaminade was harder for him. When my son went into college to takes tests, kids were crying next to him. He got 4.0 in both semesters in Freshman College because he was well prepared. And, believe me he was not top of his class. He was an honors student, a football player, a lacrosse player, did clubs and matured like a man. I know many people at STA. One of my own teachers is there as a Friar now. There are many good things being done there that have nothing to do with sports. But, be real here. Catholic education is definitely up there on the college pick lists. The underlying culture of Chaminade vs. STA is mostly in the heads of coaches at STA and is carried down year after year to the players. So when your kid is the one who messed up the kick off at the end of big game, you have to be afraid to go to school at STA (which I know for a fact this happened) vs. Chaminade where 200 people go up to you and say don't worry about it. You cannot compare these two schools and the significance of Chaminade education and how it affects your future.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
I agree but THIS is a lacrosse board. Now as a proud St.Anthony's grad, must say how do you argue with these powerful academic institutions below? Some of you might not realize that to verbal to these schools you NEED to show your grades BEFORE they offer you-
SA's lacrosse has commits to UPENN, Villanova, Army, Bucknell, Wash & Lee, Richmond and Boston U. Thats a pretty powerful list of great schools without a doubt. How did these kids have the grades if SA's is such a "bad" school?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaminade is full of cheaters as is EXPRESS holding kids back to reclassify just so they can win lacrosse games. PATHETIC.
Certainly would make an interesting article in NEWSDAY.
If the school is so prestigious and the kid is so smart and athletic, why hold him back to be a 2019 goalie instead of 2018.
Certainly would make an interesting article in NEWSDAY.
If the school is so prestigious and the kid is so smart and athletic, why hold him back to be a 2019 goalie instead of 2018.
YOU are an IDIOT! Who do you think makes the decision for a player to reclassify? The High School? The Lacrosse CLub? The Palyer? NO. It is the parents! If they feel it's best for their child, that is their choice. BTW...Kids have been doing the "PG thing" for YEARS. That usually would be an extra year at a prep school AFTER they graduated High School. And those schools cost $30-50K for that year. As I see it, parents are wisening up and spending $3-5K for them to repeat 8th grade. Not that I condone the reclassify thing. But it is what it is, and it is NOT going away.
If you read my paragraph again, it is about lacrosse and academics. STA kids do get into those schools because their marks are high. It's easy to keep them high with an EASIER academic load to carry. And, it's a sports school but it is not hard to be an honors student at STA. It is however, very hard at Chaminade. Again, education and connections for a lifetime vs. 15 minutes of fame at a high school game. No comparison.
No not arrogant, just know how the system works. That is why I made sure I complimented STA as a school it's not all about the sports. But, at the end of the day most parents would rather send their sons to Chaminade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have no idea what your talking about. St. Anthony's has sports and academics, but, sorry to tell you your academics cannot EVER compare to Chaminade. It's held on a high standard for a reason. I'll show you tests that will make your head spin. A professor at my son's college who went to Chaminade and Harvard said Chaminade was harder for him. When my son went into college to takes tests, kids were crying next to him. He got 4.0 in both semesters in Freshman College because he was well prepared. And, believe me he was not top of his class. He was an honors student, a football player, a lacrosse player, did clubs and matured like a man. I know many people at STA. One of my own teachers is there as a Friar now. There are many good things being done there that have nothing to do with sports. But, be real here. Catholic education is definitely up there on the college pick lists. The underlying culture of Chaminade vs. STA is mostly in the heads of coaches at STA and is carried down year after year to the players. So when your kid is the one who messed up the kick off at the end of big game, you have to be afraid to go to school at STA (which I know for a fact this happened) vs. Chaminade where 200 people go up to you and say don't worry about it. You cannot compare these two schools and the significance of Chaminade education and how it affects your future.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
I agree but THIS is a lacrosse board. Now as a proud St.Anthony's grad, must say how do you argue with these powerful academic institutions below? Some of you might not realize that to verbal to these schools you NEED to show your grades BEFORE they offer you-
SA's lacrosse has commits to UPENN, Villanova, Army, Bucknell, Wash & Lee, Richmond and Boston U. Thats a pretty powerful list of great schools without a doubt. How did these kids have the grades if SA's is such a "bad" school?
Many public boast the same, drawing from one area, not impressed!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have no idea what your talking about. St. Anthony's has sports and academics, but, sorry to tell you your academics cannot EVER compare to Chaminade. It's held on a high standard for a reason. I'll show you tests that will make your head spin. A professor at my son's college who went to Chaminade and Harvard said Chaminade was harder for him. When my son went into college to takes tests, kids were crying next to him. He got 4.0 in both semesters in Freshman College because he was well prepared. And, believe me he was not top of his class. He was an honors student, a football player, a lacrosse player, did clubs and matured like a man. I know many people at STA. One of my own teachers is there as a Friar now. There are many good things being done there that have nothing to do with sports. But, be real here. Catholic education is definitely up there on the college pick lists. The underlying culture of Chaminade vs. STA is mostly in the heads of coaches at STA and is carried down year after year to the players. So when your kid is the one who messed up the kick off at the end of big game, you have to be afraid to go to school at STA (which I know for a fact this happened) vs. Chaminade where 200 people go up to you and say don't worry about it. You cannot compare these two schools and the significance of Chaminade education and how it affects your future.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
I agree but THIS is a lacrosse board. Now as a proud St.Anthony's grad, must say how do you argue with these powerful academic institutions below? Some of you might not realize that to verbal to these schools you NEED to show your grades BEFORE they offer you-
SA's lacrosse has commits to UPENN, Villanova, Army, Bucknell, Wash & Lee, Richmond and Boston U. Thats a pretty powerful list of great schools without a doubt. How did these kids have the grades if SA's is such a "bad" school?
Many public boast the same, drawing from one area, not impressed!
Ok than list the colleges with players committed to those level of schools! But please name the PUBLIC High School. All I've seen on here is STA & Chaminade listings of players committed to these type of high level academic colleges. So Mr. Public School if you do that than than I'll be IMPRESSED.
Don't list the POWER LAX SCHOOLS, like Hopkins, UNC, UVA either. Those schools are GREAT! But if your committed to play lacrosse there than you aren't going to be allow to have a heavy academic load at those places.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you read my paragraph again, it is about lacrosse and academics. STA kids do get into those schools because their marks are high. It's easy to keep them high with an EASIER academic load to carry. And, it's a sports school but it is not hard to be an honors student at STA. It is however, very hard at Chaminade. Again, education and connections for a lifetime vs. 15 minutes of fame at a high school game. No comparison.
So the Geometry, Trig, Biology, Chem or Calculus is MUCH harder at Chaminade compared to STA or a public school?
Chaminade is not a "sports school" ? HA!
(15 minutes of fame at a high school game) So the FLYERS games in all their sports aren't important to the students, parents and front office of the school? Load of BS.
So many Chaminade parents come off like NO OTHER school has a tough work load than your school, no other private or public school- please stop.
That 2018 goalie will make a great lawyer or politician some day.
Maybe even President with the great values his parents and "Chaminade" are teaching him.
Who can blame the parents for being so proud, maybe they should move him down 2 grade levels. Just think of how much better he would be as a goalie playing with 7th graders.
That my friends is what is wrong with the system.
If I had to guess I would bet same parents bragged about how good he was at a younger age and that he was too good to play with his piers.
I have no horse in this race, just tired of all the double talk with people pissing in parents ears and telling them that it's ok, it's raining.
Shame on Chaminade and their Coach JM
Maybe even President with the great values his parents and "Chaminade" are teaching him.
Who can blame the parents for being so proud, maybe they should move him down 2 grade levels. Just think of how much better he would be as a goalie playing with 7th graders.
That my friends is what is wrong with the system.
If I had to guess I would bet same parents bragged about how good he was at a younger age and that he was too good to play with his piers.
I have no horse in this race, just tired of all the double talk with people pissing in parents ears and telling them that it's ok, it's raining.
Shame on Chaminade and their Coach JM
I may be an idiot, but I would not have my children participate in cheating regardless of the school, team or coaches, I believe in let the better man win. If a younger player beats out an older player that is healthy competition. If an older kid plays down to beat out a younger kid that is just WRONG.
Says the "Village Idiot".
Says the "Village Idiot".
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have no idea what your talking about. St. Anthony's has sports and academics, but, sorry to tell you your academics cannot EVER compare to Chaminade. It's held on a high standard for a reason. I'll show you tests that will make your head spin. A professor at my son's college who went to Chaminade and Harvard said Chaminade was harder for him. When my son went into college to takes tests, kids were crying next to him. He got 4.0 in both semesters in Freshman College because he was well prepared. And, believe me he was not top of his class. He was an honors student, a football player, a lacrosse player, did clubs and matured like a man. I know many people at STA. One of my own teachers is there as a Friar now. There are many good things being done there that have nothing to do with sports. But, be real here. Catholic education is definitely up there on the college pick lists. The underlying culture of Chaminade vs. STA is mostly in the heads of coaches at STA and is carried down year after year to the players. So when your kid is the one who messed up the kick off at the end of big game, you have to be afraid to go to school at STA (which I know for a fact this happened) vs. Chaminade where 200 people go up to you and say don't worry about it. You cannot compare these two schools and the significance of Chaminade education and how it affects your future.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
I agree but THIS is a lacrosse board. Now as a proud St.Anthony's grad, must say how do you argue with these powerful academic institutions below? Some of you might not realize that to verbal to these schools you NEED to show your grades BEFORE they offer you-
SA's lacrosse has commits to UPENN, Villanova, Army, Bucknell, Wash & Lee, Richmond and Boston U. Thats a pretty powerful list of great schools without a doubt. How did these kids have the grades if SA's is such a "bad" school?
Many public boast the same, drawing from one area, not impressed!
Ok than list the colleges with players committed to those level of schools! But please name the PUBLIC High School. All I've seen on here is STA & Chaminade listings of players committed to these type of high level academic colleges. So Mr. Public School if you do that than than I'll be IMPRESSED.
Don't list the POWER LAX SCHOOLS, like Hopkins, UNC, UVA either. Those schools are GREAT! But if your committed to play lacrosse there than you aren't going to be allow to have a heavy academic load at those places.
Ok, Smithtown East currently has 1 Harvard and 2 Yale, among many other very good schools. I didn't see you mention those schools, which are lights out better that ALL the schools you mentioned. Go public!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That 2018 goalie will make a great lawyer or politician some day.
Maybe even President with the great values his parents and "Chaminade" are teaching him.
Who can blame the parents for being so proud, maybe they should move him down 2 grade levels. Just think of how much better he would be as a goalie playing with 7th graders.
That my friends is what is wrong with the system.
If I had to guess I would bet same parents bragged about how good he was at a younger age and that he was too good to play with his piers.
I have no horse in this race, just tired of all the double talk with people pissing in parents ears and telling them that it's ok, it's raining.
Shame on Chaminade and their Coach JM
Maybe even President with the great values his parents and "Chaminade" are teaching him.
Who can blame the parents for being so proud, maybe they should move him down 2 grade levels. Just think of how much better he would be as a goalie playing with 7th graders.
That my friends is what is wrong with the system.
If I had to guess I would bet same parents bragged about how good he was at a younger age and that he was too good to play with his piers.
I have no horse in this race, just tired of all the double talk with people pissing in parents ears and telling them that it's ok, it's raining.
Shame on Chaminade and their Coach JM
I agree, Chaminade should be ashamed of themselves. Supporting unethical behavior. WRONG on all levels
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you read my paragraph again, it is about lacrosse and academics. STA kids do get into those schools because their marks are high. It's easy to keep them high with an EASIER academic load to carry. And, it's a sports school but it is not hard to be an honors student at STA. It is however, very hard at Chaminade. Again, education and connections for a lifetime vs. 15 minutes of fame at a high school game. No comparison.
So the Geometry, Trig, Biology, Chem or Calculus is MUCH harder at Chaminade compared to STA or a public school?
Chaminade is not a "sports school" ? HA!
(15 minutes of fame at a high school game) So the FLYERS games in all their sports aren't important to the students, parents and front office of the school? Load of BS.
So many Chaminade parents come off like NO OTHER school has a tough work load than your school, no other private or public school- please stop.
If Chaminade is so superior for academics, then why do the publics blow them away in terms of finalists and semifinalists at science and math competitions, for example, Intel?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That 2018 goalie will make a great lawyer or politician some day.
Maybe even President with the great values his parents and "Chaminade" are teaching him.
Who can blame the parents for being so proud, maybe they should move him down 2 grade levels. Just think of how much better he would be as a goalie playing with 7th graders.
That my friends is what is wrong with the system.
If I had to guess I would bet same parents bragged about how good he was at a younger age and that he was too good to play with his piers.
I have no horse in this race, just tired of all the double talk with people pissing in parents ears and telling them that it's ok, it's raining.
Shame on Chaminade and their Coach JM
Maybe even President with the great values his parents and "Chaminade" are teaching him.
Who can blame the parents for being so proud, maybe they should move him down 2 grade levels. Just think of how much better he would be as a goalie playing with 7th graders.
That my friends is what is wrong with the system.
If I had to guess I would bet same parents bragged about how good he was at a younger age and that he was too good to play with his piers.
I have no horse in this race, just tired of all the double talk with people pissing in parents ears and telling them that it's ok, it's raining.
Shame on Chaminade and their Coach JM
Chaminade has not yet admitted their 2019 class yet. The Catholic HS Test has not even been taken. I am very skeptical about this whole charade and I will be watching to see if Chaminade does let in a student that was held back due to athletics, and not for a valid reason, as it appears to cross all the lines Chaminade would like to stand for. Only time will tell if Chaminade is making a deal with the devil. If this student does make it in, I would not be surprised if this news grows bigger than BOTC and Chaminade's ethics will be questioned. Many a young man are disappointed when they receive a letter of denial from Chaminade. I am sure there is some big bucks daddy that will be willing to question this admittance.
This already happened at Chaminade with a 2016 player who is now a reclassified committed 2017 player.
Chaminade has not yet admitted their 2019 class yet. The Catholic HS Test has not even been taken. I am very skeptical about this whole charade and I will be watching to see if Chaminade does let in a student that was held back due to athletics, and not for a valid reason, as it appears to cross all the lines Chaminade would like to stand for. Only time will tell if Chaminade is making a deal with the devil. If this student does make it in, I would not be surprised if this news grows bigger than BOTC and Chaminade's ethics will be questioned. Many a young man are disappointed when they receive a letter of denial from Chaminade. I am sure there is some big bucks daddy that will be willing to question this admittance.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That 2018 goalie will make a great lawyer or politician some day.
Maybe even President with the great values his parents and "Chaminade" are teaching him.
Who can blame the parents for being so proud, maybe they should move him down 2 grade levels. Just think of how much better he would be as a goalie playing with 7th graders.
That my friends is what is wrong with the system.
If I had to guess I would bet same parents bragged about how good he was at a younger age and that he was too good to play with his piers.
I have no horse in this race, just tired of all the double talk with people pissing in parents ears and telling them that it's ok, it's raining.
Shame on Chaminade and their Coach JM
Maybe even President with the great values his parents and "Chaminade" are teaching him.
Who can blame the parents for being so proud, maybe they should move him down 2 grade levels. Just think of how much better he would be as a goalie playing with 7th graders.
That my friends is what is wrong with the system.
If I had to guess I would bet same parents bragged about how good he was at a younger age and that he was too good to play with his piers.
I have no horse in this race, just tired of all the double talk with people pissing in parents ears and telling them that it's ok, it's raining.
Shame on Chaminade and their Coach JM
Chaminade has not yet admitted their 2019 class yet. The Catholic HS Test has not even been taken. I am very skeptical about this whole charade and I will be watching to see if Chaminade does let in a student that was held back due to athletics, and not for a valid reason, as it appears to cross all the lines Chaminade would like to stand for. Only time will tell if Chaminade is making a deal with the devil. If this student does make it in, I would not be surprised if this news grows bigger than BOTC and Chaminade's ethics will be questioned. Many a young man are disappointed when they receive a letter of denial from Chaminade. I am sure there is some big bucks daddy that will be willing to question this admittance.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you read my paragraph again, it is about lacrosse and academics. STA kids do get into those schools because their marks are high. It's easy to keep them high with an EASIER academic load to carry. And, it's a sports school but it is not hard to be an honors student at STA. It is however, very hard at Chaminade. Again, education and connections for a lifetime vs. 15 minutes of fame at a high school game. No comparison.
So the Geometry, Trig, Biology, Chem or Calculus is MUCH harder at Chaminade compared to STA or a public school?
Chaminade is not a "sports school" ? HA!
(15 minutes of fame at a high school game) So the FLYERS games in all their sports aren't important to the students, parents and front office of the school? Load of BS.
So many Chaminade parents come off like NO OTHER school has a tough work load than your school, no other private or public school- please stop.
If Chaminade is so superior for academics, then why do the publics blow them away in terms of finalists and semifinalists at science and math competitions, for example, Intel?
You must be a public school graduate and failed math. Compare the number of students.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you read my paragraph again, it is about lacrosse and academics. STA kids do get into those schools because their marks are high. It's easy to keep them high with an EASIER academic load to carry. And, it's a sports school but it is not hard to be an honors student at STA. It is however, very hard at Chaminade. Again, education and connections for a lifetime vs. 15 minutes of fame at a high school game. No comparison.
So the Geometry, Trig, Biology, Chem or Calculus is MUCH harder at Chaminade compared to STA or a public school?
Chaminade is not a "sports school" ? HA!
(15 minutes of fame at a high school game) So the FLYERS games in all their sports aren't important to the students, parents and front office of the school? Load of BS.
So many Chaminade parents come off like NO OTHER school has a tough work load than your school, no other private or public school- please stop.
If Chaminade is so superior for academics, then why do the publics blow them away in terms of finalists and semifinalists at science and math competitions, for example, Intel?
You must be a public school graduate and failed math. Compare the number of students.
Why so defensive, You have nothing, just wondering why a supposed top school who draws from a large area has produced relatively nothing! Look at schools like Ward Melville and Jericho (many others, just an example). Far superior at the sciences and math, with plenty of accolades to show for it. Where are yours?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you read my paragraph again, it is about lacrosse and academics. STA kids do get into those schools because their marks are high. It's easy to keep them high with an EASIER academic load to carry. And, it's a sports school but it is not hard to be an honors student at STA. It is however, very hard at Chaminade. Again, education and connections for a lifetime vs. 15 minutes of fame at a high school game. No comparison.
So the Geometry, Trig, Biology, Chem or Calculus is MUCH harder at Chaminade compared to STA or a public school?
Chaminade is not a "sports school" ? HA!
(15 minutes of fame at a high school game) So the FLYERS games in all their sports aren't important to the students, parents and front office of the school? Load of BS.
So many Chaminade parents come off like NO OTHER school has a tough work load than your school, no other private or public school- please stop.
If Chaminade is so superior for academics, then why do the publics blow them away in terms of finalists and semifinalists at science and math competitions, for example, Intel?
You must be a public school graduate and failed math. Compare the number of students.
Typical self absorbed Chaminade cool aide drinker. Recent blurb in Newsday about top schools on LI... No Chaminade, sorry. GC, Sett, Syossett, Jerihco and the only one from Suffolk, Harborfields.... All ranked in the top 1% nationally. Guess what, these schools have to let everyone in! Not like your pretentious High. If your kid is there for religious reasons, great. If you come from a great school district? No benefit, sorry. I'll keep the $50k for college so my son doesn't have any loans....
You people arguing chammy v STA are almost as funny as the shoreham thread...
Feeling a little insecure and needing to justify the cost?
Not to add to the drama, but I know four families that chose STA over chammy because their kids had a shorter communte. Both great schools and their kids got into both, but a 30 min train ride from stony brook was better for them than an hour...
Good luck to all your boys!
Feeling a little insecure and needing to justify the cost?
Not to add to the drama, but I know four families that chose STA over chammy because their kids had a shorter communte. Both great schools and their kids got into both, but a 30 min train ride from stony brook was better for them than an hour...
Good luck to all your boys!
You are missing the point on this Lacrosse thread. It's not that you can't get a good education in public schools and of course there are a couple of bright, forward thinking students at every high school in Long Island. The truth is the catholic schools do have the cream of the academic crop. I have had children in private and public and hands down public cannot compete. The boys that went to Chaminade in Freshman year couldn't even keep up with the vocabulary because it is not properly taught in the public high schools. The student there are regent exempt because the classes are so difficult. STA students draw important schools because of the sports and if your child's strength is sports, that's what a good parent would do to support that child. Kellenberg, also a very difficult school is not for everyone. Public education is not what it used to be. So please don't tell me to stop saying that private education is better, (to the earlier poster) it is. As far as lacrosse goes, parents need to focus on academics no matter where your son/daughter is. I see so many parents living their lives through their children because they want to be able to brag under th tents. At the end of the day your kid needs to get a job. He/she will not be a professional lacrosse player. End of discussion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have no idea what your talking about. St. Anthony's has sports and academics, but, sorry to tell you your academics cannot EVER compare to Chaminade. It's held on a high standard for a reason. I'll show you tests that will make your head spin. A professor at my son's college who went to Chaminade and Harvard said Chaminade was harder for him. When my son went into college to takes tests, kids were crying next to him. He got 4.0 in both semesters in Freshman College because he was well prepared. And, believe me he was not top of his class. He was an honors student, a football player, a lacrosse player, did clubs and matured like a man. I know many people at STA. One of my own teachers is there as a Friar now. There are many good things being done there that have nothing to do with sports. But, be real here. Catholic education is definitely up there on the college pick lists. The underlying culture of Chaminade vs. STA is mostly in the heads of coaches at STA and is carried down year after year to the players. So when your kid is the one who messed up the kick off at the end of big game, you have to be afraid to go to school at STA (which I know for a fact this happened) vs. Chaminade where 200 people go up to you and say don't worry about it. You cannot compare these two schools and the significance of Chaminade education and how it affects your future.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
I agree but THIS is a lacrosse board. Now as a proud St.Anthony's grad, must say how do you argue with these powerful academic institutions below? Some of you might not realize that to verbal to these schools you NEED to show your grades BEFORE they offer you-
SA's lacrosse has commits to UPENN, Villanova, Army, Bucknell, Wash & Lee, Richmond and Boston U. Thats a pretty powerful list of great schools without a doubt. How did these kids have the grades if SA's is such a "bad" school?
Many public boast the same, drawing from one area, not impressed!
Ok than list the colleges with players committed to those level of schools! But please name the PUBLIC High School. All I've seen on here is STA & Chaminade listings of players committed to these type of high level academic colleges. So Mr. Public School if you do that than than I'll be IMPRESSED.
Don't list the POWER LAX SCHOOLS, like Hopkins, UNC, UVA either. Those schools are GREAT! But if your committed to play lacrosse there than you aren't going to be allow to have a heavy academic load at those places.
Ok, Smithtown East currently has 1 Harvard and 2 Yale, among many other very good schools. I didn't see you mention those schools, which are lights out better that ALL the schools you mentioned. Go public!!
You named three schools for Smith East, the STA post named SEVEN schools!
As far as "lights out better", Yale and Harvard are great schools for sure!! But before you disrespect the schools on the STA post, you should educate yourself to the other schools.
Example:
Three of the schools on that STA post (PENN, Bucknell, W&L) where on the Top 10 list by USA today in Business, while Yale and Harvard weren't. Just saying.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are missing the point on this Lacrosse thread. It's not that you can't get a good education in public schools and of course there are a couple of bright, forward thinking students at every high school in Long Island. The truth is the catholic schools do have the cream of the academic crop. I have had children in private and public and hands down public cannot compete. The boys that went to Chaminade in Freshman year couldn't even keep up with the vocabulary because it is not properly taught in the public high schools. The student there are regent exempt because the classes are so difficult. STA students draw important schools because of the sports and if your child's strength is sports, that's what a good parent would do to support that child. Kellenberg, also a very difficult school is not for everyone. Public education is not what it used to be. So please don't tell me to stop saying that private education is better, (to the earlier poster) it is. As far as lacrosse goes, parents need to focus on academics no matter where your son/daughter is. I see so many parents living their lives through their children because they want to be able to brag under th tents. At the end of the day your kid needs to get a job. He/she will not be a professional lacrosse player. End of discussion.
No, your narrative shows that you are missing the point, and reality, and fact. However, you asserted "end of discussion" so I guess we all have to move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are missing the point on this Lacrosse thread. It's not that you can't get a good education in public schools and of course there are a couple of bright, forward thinking students at every high school in Long Island. The truth is the catholic schools do have the cream of the academic crop. I have had children in private and public and hands down public cannot compete. The boys that went to Chaminade in Freshman year couldn't even keep up with the vocabulary because it is not properly taught in the public high schools. The student there are regent exempt because the classes are so difficult. STA students draw important schools because of the sports and if your child's strength is sports, that's what a good parent would do to support that child. Kellenberg, also a very difficult school is not for everyone. Public education is not what it used to be. So please don't tell me to stop saying that private education is better, (to the earlier poster) it is. As far as lacrosse goes, parents need to focus on academics no matter where your son/daughter is. I see so many parents living their lives through their children because they want to be able to brag under th tents. At the end of the day your kid needs to get a job. He/she will not be a professional lacrosse player. End of discussion.
A couple of forward thinking kids at every school? Really???
You are an [lacrosse] and it is thinking like yours--clearly dliusional--that is reason that people like me don't send my kids to private school. Self important, entitled attitude is indicative of your life failures and you pass them on to your kid...Yes, I make a lot more money than you and am very successful you [lacrosse]. Highly educated from IVY both grad and undergrad
I do agree that there are many--not a few-- kids that go to privates that will and are great, it is just you and those that think like you that I cannot and will not tolerate. Hope you kid turns out better.
please stop no one f...ing cares.
Clearly you should proof your responses and stop cursing, as well. You have no idea what I do for a living and your arrogant "ivy" league attitude is showing. I have no life failures except spending time explaining things to you. Public school is not what it used to be. That's my opinion and I am very "self" entitled to have it.
Enjoy your day.
Enjoy your day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have no idea what your talking about. St. Anthony's has sports and academics, but, sorry to tell you your academics cannot EVER compare to Chaminade. It's held on a high standard for a reason. I'll show you tests that will make your head spin. A professor at my son's college who went to Chaminade and Harvard said Chaminade was harder for him. When my son went into college to takes tests, kids were crying next to him. He got 4.0 in both semesters in Freshman College because he was well prepared. And, believe me he was not top of his class. He was an honors student, a football player, a lacrosse player, did clubs and matured like a man. I know many people at STA. One of my own teachers is there as a Friar now. There are many good things being done there that have nothing to do with sports. But, be real here. Catholic education is definitely up there on the college pick lists. The underlying culture of Chaminade vs. STA is mostly in the heads of coaches at STA and is carried down year after year to the players. So when your kid is the one who messed up the kick off at the end of big game, you have to be afraid to go to school at STA (which I know for a fact this happened) vs. Chaminade where 200 people go up to you and say don't worry about it. You cannot compare these two schools and the significance of Chaminade education and how it affects your future.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
I agree but THIS is a lacrosse board. Now as a proud St.Anthony's grad, must say how do you argue with these powerful academic institutions below? Some of you might not realize that to verbal to these schools you NEED to show your grades BEFORE they offer you-
SA's lacrosse has commits to UPENN, Villanova, Army, Bucknell, Wash & Lee, Richmond and Boston U. Thats a pretty powerful list of great schools without a doubt. How did these kids have the grades if SA's is such a "bad" school?
Many public boast the same, drawing from one area, not impressed!
Ok than list the colleges with players committed to those level of schools! But please name the PUBLIC High School. All I've seen on here is STA & Chaminade listings of players committed to these type of high level academic colleges. So Mr. Public School if you do that than than I'll be IMPRESSED.
Don't list the POWER LAX SCHOOLS, like Hopkins, UNC, UVA either. Those schools are GREAT! But if your committed to play lacrosse there than you aren't going to be allow to have a heavy academic load at those places.
Ok, Smithtown East currently has 1 Harvard and 2 Yale, among many other very good schools. I didn't see you mention those schools, which are lights out better that ALL the schools you mentioned. Go public!!
You named three schools for Smith East, the STA post named SEVEN schools!
As far as "lights out better", Yale and Harvard are great schools for sure!! But before you disrespect the schools on the STA post, you should educate yourself to the other schools.
Example:
Three of the schools on that STA post (PENN, Bucknell, W&L) where on the Top 10 list by USA today in Business, while Yale and Harvard weren't. Just saying.
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Nice try, but sorry, the schools you mentioned are not in the same league as Yale and Harvard, which are far more presigious. That is why I mentioned them. Many other boys from that particular school district are committed to top schools in "your" league as well(Hopkins,etc.). I was just pointing out that some publics are committing to the very top schools, while st. A is in a lower tier. Sorry if you can't accept the truth!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you read my paragraph again, it is about lacrosse and academics. STA kids do get into those schools because their marks are high. It's easy to keep them high with an EASIER academic load to carry. And, it's a sports school but it is not hard to be an honors student at STA. It is however, very hard at Chaminade. Again, education and connections for a lifetime vs. 15 minutes of fame at a high school game. No comparison.
So the Geometry, Trig, Biology, Chem or Calculus is MUCH harder at Chaminade compared to STA or a public school?
Chaminade is not a "sports school" ? HA!
(15 minutes of fame at a high school game) So the FLYERS games in all their sports aren't important to the students, parents and front office of the school? Load of BS.
So many Chaminade parents come off like NO OTHER school has a tough work load than your school, no other private or public school- please stop.
If Chaminade is so superior for academics, then why do the publics blow them away in terms of finalists and semifinalists at science and math competitions, for example, Intel?
You must be a public school graduate and failed math. Compare the number of students.
Why so defensive, You have nothing, just wondering why a supposed top school who draws from a large area has produced relatively nothing! Look at schools like Ward Melville and Jericho (many others, just an example). Far superior at the sciences and math, with plenty of accolades to show for it. Where are yours?
Cham boy is a big talker with nothing to show for it. Funny!
Anybody have comparative SAT and ACT scores between Chaminade and St A?
Their gold their red they give each other _ _ _ _ !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clearly you should proof your responses and stop cursing, as well. You have no idea what I do for a living and your arrogant "ivy" league attitude is showing. I have no life failures except spending time explaining things to you. Public school is not what it used to be. That's my opinion and I am very "self" entitled to have it.
Enjoy your day.
Enjoy your day.
Entitled yes. Correct? Not even close. A school like Chaminade is great for the kid that can't handle a real world scholastic environment. Let's just call it what it is, a homogeneous, unrealistic, protected, closed minded, bastion of naivety for the children of parents who seek to create a bubble for four years of their children's teenage life. Nothing about that environment mimics real life. Nor does it in any way resemble the social or academic environment of college. Be careful, preparing a young man for life requires much more than just a rigorous academic program. I know you won't agree, because you can't. You've invested it all in your choice, Good Luck!
"Nice try, but sorry, the schools you mentioned are not in the same league as Yale and Harvard, which are far more presigious. That is why I mentioned them. Many other boys from that particular school district are committed to top schools in "your" league as well(Hopkins,etc.). I was just pointing out that some publics are committing to the very top schools, while st. A is in a lower tier. Sorry if you can't accept the truth! [/quote]"
lol ok whatever you say. I supplied a link to a LEGITIMATE publication known throughout the WORLD to back my point...and you, well you just gave your "opinion"!
Enjoy your day!
lol ok whatever you say. I supplied a link to a LEGITIMATE publication known throughout the WORLD to back my point...and you, well you just gave your "opinion"!
Enjoy your day!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Nice try, but sorry, the schools you mentioned are not in the same league as Yale and Harvard, which are far more presigious. That is why I mentioned them. Many other boys from that particular school district are committed to top schools in "your" league as well(Hopkins,etc.). I was just pointing out that some publics are committing to the very top schools, while st. A is in a lower tier. Sorry if you can't accept the truth!
lol ok whatever you say. I supplied a link to a LEGITIMATE publication known throughout the WORLD to back my point...and you, well you just gave your "opinion"!
Enjoy your day! [/quote]
Glad you understand. Public is just producing better quality commits. Funny that you would even think to put Villanova in the same class as Harvard, ha
And by the way, one source is never considered acceptable when trying to prove a point!
Have a great day, and don't forget to pay that tuition bill!
Lacrosse Anyone?
Why would I care what you do for a living
Enough with the St. Anthony bashing and nonsense . This is a lacrosse forum . Not best education forum .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaminade is full of cheaters as is EXPRESS holding kids back to reclassify just so they can win lacrosse games. PATHETIC.
Certainly would make an interesting article in NEWSDAY.
If the school is so prestigious and the kid is so smart and athletic, why hold him back to be a 2019 goalie instead of 2018.
Certainly would make an interesting article in NEWSDAY.
If the school is so prestigious and the kid is so smart and athletic, why hold him back to be a 2019 goalie instead of 2018.
The answer is:
The starting 2018 goalie is a really wonderful player and an academically sound student who will start and play Freshman, JV and Varsity. That being well known because both of the boys played together on the same club team, the decision was made to have this kid reclassify. He too, is great both athletically and academically, however, he will not be noticed because he will not get in the games.
Reclassifing this boy will give him the opportunity to play his Freshman, JV and Varsity years as a 2019.
That being said, both play club ball for the same organization and the HS coach is aware of them both. He now has 2 powerhouses in the cage. Great for the school, great for the goalies.
SAD for the other boys who want to play goalie for Chaminade.
It makes perfect sense when you think about it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Nice try, but sorry, the schools you mentioned are not in the same league as Yale and Harvard, which are far more presigious. That is why I mentioned them. Many other boys from that particular school district are committed to top schools in "your" league as well(Hopkins,etc.). I was just pointing out that some publics are committing to the very top schools, while st. A is in a lower tier. Sorry if you can't accept the truth!
lol ok whatever you say. I supplied a link to a LEGITIMATE publication known throughout the WORLD to back my point...and you, well you just gave your "opinion"!
Enjoy your day!
Glad you understand. Public is just producing better quality commits. Funny that you would even think to put Villanova in the same class as Harvard, ha
And by the way, one source is never considered acceptable when trying to prove a point!
Have a great day, and don't forget to pay that tuition bill! [/quote]
What was your source? As far as tuition bill shot you took, are you implying that if its not ACC or Big10 OR you don't qualify for the $$ from Ivy if you are under their number as far as household income that means there is no lacrosse money?
Go back and look at the list of D1 commits from Chaminade and STA in this thread. Public doesn't have those AMOUNT of players committed, sorry.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough with the St. Anthony bashing and nonsense . This is a lacrosse forum . Not best education forum .
If you don't see how the topic is PRETTY important than you have a lot to learn about this. Or should we write about which express team is better than a fl$ or 91 team? Or that "my kid is better than the kid on the A team", is that a better topic? Many express people have kids at StA/Chaminade, or have kid that will be going to one of them soon. I like the topic.
Chaminade new motto, if you can't beat them reclassify. Just like the cheater in 10th grade, going to Duke. SAD
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaminade new motto, if you can't beat them reclassify. Just like the cheater in 10th grade, going to Duke. SAD
True.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaminade is full of cheaters as is EXPRESS holding kids back to reclassify just so they can win lacrosse games. PATHETIC.
Certainly would make an interesting article in NEWSDAY.
If the school is so prestigious and the kid is so smart and athletic, why hold him back to be a 2019 goalie instead of 2018.
Certainly would make an interesting article in NEWSDAY.
If the school is so prestigious and the kid is so smart and athletic, why hold him back to be a 2019 goalie instead of 2018.
The answer is:
The starting 2018 goalie is a really wonderful player and an academically sound student who will start and play Freshman, JV and Varsity. That being well known because both of the boys played together on the same club team, the decision was made to have this kid reclassify. He too, is great both athletically and academically, however, he will not be noticed because he will not get in the games.
Reclassifing this boy will give him the opportunity to play his Freshman, JV and Varsity years as a 2019.
I thought Jesters 2018 have a pretty good goalie going to Chaminade. I guess he will be odd man out.
That being said, both play club ball for the same organization and the HS coach is aware of them both. He now has 2 powerhouses in the cage. Great for the school, great for the goalies.
SAD for the other boys who want to play goalie for Chaminade.
It makes perfect sense when you think about it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaminade is full of cheaters as is EXPRESS holding kids back to reclassify just so they can win lacrosse games. PATHETIC.
Certainly would make an interesting article in NEWSDAY.
If the school is so prestigious and the kid is so smart and athletic, why hold him back to be a 2019 goalie instead of 2018.
Certainly would make an interesting article in NEWSDAY.
If the school is so prestigious and the kid is so smart and athletic, why hold him back to be a 2019 goalie instead of 2018.
The answer is:
The starting 2018 goalie is a really wonderful player and an academically sound student who will start and play Freshman, JV and Varsity. That being well known because both of the boys played together on the same club team, the decision was made to have this kid reclassify. He too, is great both athletically and academically, however, he will not be noticed because he will not get in the games.
Reclassifing this boy will give him the opportunity to play his Freshman, JV and Varsity years as a 2019.
I thought Jesters 2018 have a pretty good goalie going to Chaminade. I guess he will be odd man out.
That being said, both play club ball for the same organization and the HS coach is aware of them both. He now has 2 powerhouses in the cage. Great for the school, great for the goalies.
SAD for the other boys who want to play goalie for Chaminade.
It makes perfect sense when you think about it.
Perfect sense for a cheating lowlife looser!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaminade is full of cheaters as is EXPRESS holding kids back to reclassify just so they can win lacrosse games. PATHETIC.
Certainly would make an interesting article in NEWSDAY.
If the school is so prestigious and the kid is so smart and athletic, why hold him back to be a 2019 goalie instead of 2018.
Certainly would make an interesting article in NEWSDAY.
If the school is so prestigious and the kid is so smart and athletic, why hold him back to be a 2019 goalie instead of 2018.
The answer is:
The starting 2018 goalie is a really wonderful player and an academically sound student who will start and play Freshman, JV and Varsity. That being well known because both of the boys played together on the same club team, the decision was made to have this kid reclassify. He too, is great both athletically and academically, however, he will not be noticed because he will not get in the games.
Reclassifing this boy will give him the opportunity to play his Freshman, JV and Varsity years as a 2019.
I thought Jesters 2018 have a pretty good goalie going to Chaminade. I guess he will be odd man out.
That being said, both play club ball for the same organization and the HS coach is aware of them both. He now has 2 powerhouses in the cage. Great for the school, great for the goalies.
SAD for the other boys who want to play goalie for Chaminade.
It makes perfect sense when you think about it.
Perfect sense for a cheating lowlife looser!
Girls, girls. No need for cat calling !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Nice try, but sorry, the schools you mentioned are not in the same league as Yale and Harvard, which are far more presigious. That is why I mentioned them. Many other boys from that particular school district are committed to top schools in "your" league as well(Hopkins,etc.). I was just pointing out that some publics are committing to the very top schools, while st. A is in a lower tier. Sorry if you can't accept the truth!
lol ok whatever you say. I supplied a link to a LEGITIMATE publication known throughout the WORLD to back my point...and you, well you just gave your "opinion"!
Enjoy your day!
Glad you understand. Public is just producing better quality commits. Funny that you would even think to put Villanova in the same class as Harvard, ha
And by the way, one source is never considered acceptable when trying to prove a point!
Have a great day, and don't forget to pay that tuition bill!
What was your source? As far as tuition bill shot you took, are you implying that if its not ACC or Big10 OR you don't qualify for the $$ from Ivy if you are under their number as far as household income that means there is no lacrosse money?
Go back and look at the list of D1 commits from Chaminade and STA in this thread. Public doesn't have those AMOUNT of players committed, sorry.
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Talking quality, not quantity! Did not see any St. A player going to Harvard, Yale or Princeton. Your great schools are clearly in a lower tier! I think Cham may have some higher caliber recruits, but not you St. A! Remember, you started bragging about your great commits, all I did was point out that some publics are doing better. Sorry that makes you mad!
Thank you to the person from private school posting all day. I am so happy I will never see you at open house night!!!!
Good luck to your kid, save a little cash for his therapy sessions.
Good luck to your kid, save a little cash for his therapy sessions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have no idea what your talking about. St. Anthony's has sports and academics, but, sorry to tell you your academics cannot EVER compare to Chaminade. It's held on a high standard for a reason. I'll show you tests that will make your head spin. A professor at my son's college who went to Chaminade and Harvard said Chaminade was harder for him. When my son went into college to takes tests, kids were crying next to him. He got 4.0 in both semesters in Freshman College because he was well prepared. And, believe me he was not top of his class. He was an honors student, a football player, a lacrosse player, did clubs and matured like a man. I know many people at STA. One of my own teachers is there as a Friar now. There are many good things being done there that have nothing to do with sports. But, be real here. Catholic education is definitely up there on the college pick lists. The underlying culture of Chaminade vs. STA is mostly in the heads of coaches at STA and is carried down year after year to the players. So when your kid is the one who messed up the kick off at the end of big game, you have to be afraid to go to school at STA (which I know for a fact this happened) vs. Chaminade where 200 people go up to you and say don't worry about it. You cannot compare these two schools and the significance of Chaminade education and how it affects your future.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
I agree but THIS is a lacrosse board. Now as a proud St.Anthony's grad, must say how do you argue with these powerful academic institutions below? Some of you might not realize that to verbal to these schools you NEED to show your grades BEFORE they offer you-
SA's lacrosse has commits to UPENN, Villanova, Army, Bucknell, Wash & Lee, Richmond and Boston U. Thats a pretty powerful list of great schools without a doubt. How did these kids have the grades if SA's is such a "bad" school?
Only school there that would be considered powerful is UPenn, If you are accepted into the business program. Maybe Army, but only for a certain type of kid. otherwise, good schools but nothing to really go crazy about! And I am not trying to put anyone down. All great choices, just not the most prestigious! All good High schools are sending kids to these schools! Show me Harvard, then I'm immpressed!!
If I'm Chaminade St Ants Kellen etc. an I'm reading this thread , I'd be scared of all the nuts coming into my schools. You people are crazy. There's a [lacrosse] of a lot more at Chaminade than lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Nice try, but sorry, the schools you mentioned are not in the same league as Yale and Harvard, which are far more presigious. That is why I mentioned them. Many other boys from that particular school district are committed to top schools in "your" league as well(Hopkins,etc.). I was just pointing out that some publics are committing to the very top schools, while st. A is in a lower tier. Sorry if you can't accept the truth!
lol ok whatever you say. I supplied a link to a LEGITIMATE publication known throughout the WORLD to back my point...and you, well you just gave your "opinion"!
Enjoy your day!
Glad you understand. Public is just producing better quality commits. Funny that you would even think to put Villanova in the same class as Harvard, ha
And by the way, one source is never considered acceptable when trying to prove a point!
Have a great day, and don't forget to pay that tuition bill!
What was your source? As far as tuition bill shot you took, are you implying that if its not ACC or Big10 OR you don't qualify for the $$ from Ivy if you are under their number as far as household income that means there is no lacrosse money?
Go back and look at the list of D1 commits from Chaminade and STA in this thread. Public doesn't have those AMOUNT of players committed, sorry.
Talking quality, not quantity! Did not see any St. A player going to Harvard, Yale or Princeton. Your great schools are clearly in a lower tier! I think Cham may have some higher caliber recruits, but not you St. A! Remember, you started bragging about your great commits, all I did was point out that some publics are doing better. Sorry that makes you mad! [/quote]
[b]Not mad about anything, I'm actually highly entertained. Lower tier? In your mind if its not Ivy it is lower tier??
I never bragged about anything, was simply proud of the highly impressive list of schools STA kids are committed to. The schools mentioned aren't being referred by me as "great schools" because I'm making it up, but take a look at the grad rate, income of alumni, acceptance rate of several of those schools. Its all documented.
Please keep in mind, STA was ATTACKED on here in regards to the academic credibility and it is offensive to alumni, current students & parents. Therefore I was defending the current Friars.
Mr. Ivy you should also be informed that currently on Harvard roster - 2 STA players, 1 at Brown and I think a kid name Schreiber just graduated from Princeton and did pretty well.
In closing, I would never knock any Ivy! One of my buddies I work with is a Yale grad and we always make fun of our boss...he graduate from Syracuse. Go figuare.[/b]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have no idea what your talking about. St. Anthony's has sports and academics, but, sorry to tell you your academics cannot EVER compare to Chaminade. It's held on a high standard for a reason. I'll show you tests that will make your head spin. A professor at my son's college who went to Chaminade and Harvard said Chaminade was harder for him. When my son went into college to takes tests, kids were crying next to him. He got 4.0 in both semesters in Freshman College because he was well prepared. And, believe me he was not top of his class. He was an honors student, a football player, a lacrosse player, did clubs and matured like a man. I know many people at STA. One of my own teachers is there as a Friar now. There are many good things being done there that have nothing to do with sports. But, be real here. Catholic education is definitely up there on the college pick lists. The underlying culture of Chaminade vs. STA is mostly in the heads of coaches at STA and is carried down year after year to the players. So when your kid is the one who messed up the kick off at the end of big game, you have to be afraid to go to school at STA (which I know for a fact this happened) vs. Chaminade where 200 people go up to you and say don't worry about it. You cannot compare these two schools and the significance of Chaminade education and how it affects your future.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
It's unfortunate that sports is all people think about at STA when there are so many students doing so many good things.
I agree but THIS is a lacrosse board. Now as a proud St.Anthony's grad, must say how do you argue with these powerful academic institutions below? Some of you might not realize that to verbal to these schools you NEED to show your grades BEFORE they offer you-
SA's lacrosse has commits to UPENN, Villanova, Army, Bucknell, Wash & Lee, Richmond and Boston U. Thats a pretty powerful list of great schools without a doubt. How did these kids have the grades if SA's is such a "bad" school?
Only school there that would be considered powerful is UPenn, If you are accepted into the business program. Maybe Army, but only for a certain type of kid. otherwise, good schools but nothing to really go crazy about! And I am not trying to put anyone down. All great choices, just not the most prestigious! All good High schools are sending kids to these schools! Show me Harvard, then I'm immpressed!!
"And I am not trying to put anyone down".
Really?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Nice try, but sorry, the schools you mentioned are not in the same league as Yale and Harvard, which are far more presigious. That is why I mentioned them. Many other boys from that particular school district are committed to top schools in "your" league as well(Hopkins,etc.). I was just pointing out that some publics are committing to the very top schools, while st. A is in a lower tier. Sorry if you can't accept the truth!
lol ok whatever you say. I supplied a link to a LEGITIMATE publication known throughout the WORLD to back my point...and you, well you just gave your "opinion"!
Enjoy your day!
Glad you understand. Public is just producing better quality commits. Funny that you would even think to put Villanova in the same class as Harvard, ha
And by the way, one source is never considered acceptable when trying to prove a point!
Have a great day, and don't forget to pay that tuition bill!
What was your source? As far as tuition bill shot you took, are you implying that if its not ACC or Big10 OR you don't qualify for the $$ from Ivy if you are under their number as far as household income that means there is no lacrosse money?
Go back and look at the list of D1 commits from Chaminade and STA in this thread. Public doesn't have those AMOUNT of players committed, sorry.
Talking quality, not quantity! Did not see any St. A player going to Harvard, Yale or Princeton. Your great schools are clearly in a lower tier! I think Cham may have some higher caliber recruits, but not you St. A! Remember, you started bragging about your great commits, all I did was point out that some publics are doing better. Sorry that makes you mad!
[b]Not mad about anything, I'm actually highly entertained. Lower tier? In your mind if its not Ivy it is lower tier??
I never bragged about anything, was simply proud of the highly impressive list of schools STA kids are committed to. The schools mentioned aren't being referred by me as "great schools" because I'm making it up, but take a look at the grad rate, income of alumni, acceptance rate of several of those schools. Its all documented.
Please keep in mind, STA was ATTACKED on here in regards to the academic credibility and it is offensive to alumni, current students & parents. Therefore I was defending the current Friars.
Mr. Ivy you should also be informed that currently on Harvard roster - 2 STA players, 1 at Brown and I think a kid name Schreiber just graduated from Princeton and did pretty well.
In closing, I would never knock any Ivy! One of my buddies I work with is a Yale grad and we always make fun of our boss...he graduate from Syracuse. Go figuare.[/b] [/quote]
Gotcha! And I'm just defending the publics! All the schools mentioned deserve bragging rights. Honestly, I am just sick of everyone trying to one up each other! Congrats to all the boys committed. Really should not be a contest, and more about a best fit, and being proud of how much they all have acomplished. Just got caught up in a silly argument! Now don't get me started on the holdbacks!!
Smartest kid from Long Island Last Year "PUBLIC" - NOT SILVER SPOONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations to both 17-year-old Kwasi Enin of Shirley, New [lacrosse] and Avery Coffey, the 17-year-old from Washington D.C., for their extraordinary acceptances into several top-tier Ivy League schools. Enin, who is a black senior at William Floyd High School, was accepted into eight Ivy League schools, including Harvard University, Yale University, Princeton University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, the University of Pennsylvania and Brown University. Coffey, a resident of D.C.s notorious 8th Ward and a soon-to-be Benjamin Banneker Academic High School graduate (and also black), was accepted into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, and the University of Pennsylvania.
Congratulations to both 17-year-old Kwasi Enin of Shirley, New [lacrosse] and Avery Coffey, the 17-year-old from Washington D.C., for their extraordinary acceptances into several top-tier Ivy League schools. Enin, who is a black senior at William Floyd High School, was accepted into eight Ivy League schools, including Harvard University, Yale University, Princeton University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, the University of Pennsylvania and Brown University. Coffey, a resident of D.C.s notorious 8th Ward and a soon-to-be Benjamin Banneker Academic High School graduate (and also black), was accepted into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, and the University of Pennsylvania.
Gotcha! And I'm just defending the publics! All the schools mentioned deserve bragging rights. Honestly, I am just sick of everyone trying to one up each other! Congrats to all the boys committed. Really should not be a contest, and more about a best fit, and being proud of how much they all have acomplished. Just got caught up in a silly argument! Now don't get me started on the holdbacks!! [/quote]
Lol, all good! I hear you on the holdback thing. I'm not a fan of that either. Take care
Lol, all good! I hear you on the holdback thing. I'm not a fan of that either. Take care
You all ruin a very good lax "club" thread.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smartest kid from Long Island Last Year "PUBLIC" - NOT SILVER SPOONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations to both 17-year-old Kwasi Enin of Shirley, New [lacrosse] and Avery Coffey, the 17-year-old from Washington D.C., for their extraordinary acceptances into several top-tier Ivy League schools. Enin, who is a black senior at William Floyd High School, was accepted into eight Ivy League schools, including Harvard University, Yale University, Princeton University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, the University of Pennsylvania and Brown University. Coffey, a resident of D.C.s notorious 8th Ward and a soon-to-be Benjamin Banneker Academic High School graduate (and also black), was accepted into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, and the University of Pennsylvania.
Congratulations to both 17-year-old Kwasi Enin of Shirley, New [lacrosse] and Avery Coffey, the 17-year-old from Washington D.C., for their extraordinary acceptances into several top-tier Ivy League schools. Enin, who is a black senior at William Floyd High School, was accepted into eight Ivy League schools, including Harvard University, Yale University, Princeton University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, the University of Pennsylvania and Brown University. Coffey, a resident of D.C.s notorious 8th Ward and a soon-to-be Benjamin Banneker Academic High School graduate (and also black), was accepted into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, and the University of Pennsylvania.
Come on.... To say a kid that had about 93 average and a little over 2000 on the SAT is the smartest kid on LI is just silly. Did he get accepted to all 8 Ivies? Yes. The question is why? How many kids do you know with the same grade that didn't even get a sniff from an IVY? Maybe just maybe this whole "ivy" thing is abit overblown???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smartest kid from Long Island Last Year "PUBLIC" - NOT SILVER SPOONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations to both 17-year-old Kwasi Enin of Shirley, New [lacrosse] and Avery Coffey, the 17-year-old from Washington D.C., for their extraordinary acceptances into several top-tier Ivy League schools. Enin, who is a black senior at William Floyd High School, was accepted into eight Ivy League schools, including Harvard University, Yale University, Princeton University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, the University of Pennsylvania and Brown University. Coffey, a resident of D.C.s notorious 8th Ward and a soon-to-be Benjamin Banneker Academic High School graduate (and also black), was accepted into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, and the University of Pennsylvania.
Congratulations to both 17-year-old Kwasi Enin of Shirley, New [lacrosse] and Avery Coffey, the 17-year-old from Washington D.C., for their extraordinary acceptances into several top-tier Ivy League schools. Enin, who is a black senior at William Floyd High School, was accepted into eight Ivy League schools, including Harvard University, Yale University, Princeton University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, the University of Pennsylvania and Brown University. Coffey, a resident of D.C.s notorious 8th Ward and a soon-to-be Benjamin Banneker Academic High School graduate (and also black), was accepted into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, and the University of Pennsylvania.
Come on.... To say a kid that had about 93 average and a little over 2000 on the SAT is the smartest kid on LI is just silly. Did he get accepted to all 8 Ivies? Yes. The question is why? How many kids do you know with the same grade that didn't even get a sniff from an IVY? Maybe just maybe this whole "ivy" thing is abit overblown???
Actually it's more about his work ethic, ability to overcome obsticals. And don't forget about stellar morals, unfortunately this is what is missing from the cheating holdbacks!
Great grades aside. Ever hear of affirmative action?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great grades aside. Ever hear of affirmative action?
ding ding ding ding... you win a prize.
Ivies-Liberal, progressive incubators.
You people are [lacrosse] amazing!!! It doesn't surprise me though..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great grades aside. Ever hear of affirmative action?
if he had the grades you said and was white from a poor neighborhood..Ivies wouldn't accept him. I am glad he got in but
there is a big advantage to being a minority for admissions in most colleges..
there is a big advantage to being a minority for admissions in most colleges..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people are [lacrosse] amazing!!! It doesn't surprise me though..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great grades aside. Ever hear of affirmative action?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people are [lacrosse] amazing!!! It doesn't surprise me though..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great grades aside. Ever hear of affirmative action?
Wow you really are a pompous [lacrosse]! Did you hold your kid back and are now afraid a kid of a different race might get more recognition ? Just terrible !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people are [lacrosse] amazing!!! It doesn't surprise me though..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great grades aside. Ever hear of affirmative action?
Wow you really are a pompous [lacrosse]! Did you hold your kid back and are now afraid a kid of a different race might get more recognition ? Just terrible !
You would do yourself well to become familiar with the admissions policies and, more importantly, the admissions philosophies of the Ivy's. Particularly the top Ivy's.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people are [lacrosse] amazing!!! It doesn't surprise me though..[quote=Anonymous]Great grades aside. Ever hear of affirmative action?
I fail to see how it is different than the lax player who gains admission over a valedictorian. Ivy 's want diversity. While they are not going to take you if you have a 2.0 and a 990 SAT even if you are an Aborigional, bisexual, quadrapelegic, they don't want a racially singular nerds-only student body. Congrats to all who are admitted, those who have to tough it out at lesser institutions will probably be okay.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people are [lacrosse] amazing!!! It doesn't surprise me though..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great grades aside. Ever hear of affirmative action?
Wow you really are a pompous [lacrosse]! Did you hold your kid back and are now afraid a kid of a different race might get more recognition ? Just terrible !
And there it is... the race card, that didn't take long. Who mentioned race? YOU! Everyone else mentioned grades. I guess you're from the ilk that believe if you disagree with Obama's horrific polices you're also a racist... Sick demented conclusion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people are [lacrosse] amazing!!! It doesn't surprise me though..[quote=Anonymous]Great grades aside. Ever hear of affirmative action?
I fail to see how it is different than the lax player who gains admission over a valedictorian. Ivy 's want diversity. While they are not going to take you if you have a 2.0 and a 990 SAT even if you are an Aborigional, bisexual, quadrapelegic, they don't want a racially singular nerds-only student body. Congrats to all who are admitted, those who have to tough it out at lesser institutions will probably be okay.
The point is, it is clear that the level of intellect needed to gain acceptance to these schools varies greatly based on ones personal situation. With that said, just maybe this whole IVY dream isn't really all that it's built up to be. Personally, given the opportunity, I would not send my son to one of those schools. My personal beliefs are in direct opposition on almost everything these schools promote. Far better choices out there without the left wing indoctrination program. May not be as "highly rated", but I think getting a 4.0 at ND, Stanford, or Vanderbilt won't hold you back much in life... Be careful where you send your children, they may come back with a twisted way of thinking, that you paid $250,000 for.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you read my paragraph again, it is about lacrosse and academics. STA kids do get into those schools because their marks are high. It's easy to keep them high with an EASIER academic load to carry. And, it's a sports school but it is not hard to be an honors student at STA. It is however, very hard at Chaminade. Again, education and connections for a lifetime vs. 15 minutes of fame at a high school game. No comparison.
So the Geometry, Trig, Biology, Chem or Calculus is MUCH harder at Chaminade compared to STA or a public school?
Chaminade is not a "sports school" ? HA!
(15 minutes of fame at a high school game) So the FLYERS games in all their sports aren't important to the students, parents and front office of the school? Load of BS.
So many Chaminade parents come off like NO OTHER school has a tough work load than your school, no other private or public school- please stop.
If Chaminade is so superior for academics, then why do the publics blow them away in terms of finalists and semifinalists at science and math competitions, for example, Intel?
You must be a public school graduate and failed math. Compare the number of students.
Umm, ok, Chaminade has ~400-500 boys per grade, that's bigger than almost any other school on long island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smartest kid from Long Island Last Year "PUBLIC" - NOT SILVER SPOONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations to both 17-year-old Kwasi Enin of Shirley, New [lacrosse] and Avery Coffey, the 17-year-old from Washington D.C., for their extraordinary acceptances into several top-tier Ivy League schools. Enin, who is a black senior at William Floyd High School, was accepted into eight Ivy League schools, including Harvard University, Yale University, Princeton University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, the University of Pennsylvania and Brown University. Coffey, a resident of D.C.s notorious 8th Ward and a soon-to-be Benjamin Banneker Academic High School graduate (and also black), was accepted into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, and the University of Pennsylvania.
Congratulations to both 17-year-old Kwasi Enin of Shirley, New [lacrosse] and Avery Coffey, the 17-year-old from Washington D.C., for their extraordinary acceptances into several top-tier Ivy League schools. Enin, who is a black senior at William Floyd High School, was accepted into eight Ivy League schools, including Harvard University, Yale University, Princeton University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, the University of Pennsylvania and Brown University. Coffey, a resident of D.C.s notorious 8th Ward and a soon-to-be Benjamin Banneker Academic High School graduate (and also black), was accepted into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, and the University of Pennsylvania.
Come on.... To say a kid that had about 93 average and a little over 2000 on the SAT is the smartest kid on LI is just silly. Did he get accepted to all 8 Ivies? Yes. The question is why? How many kids do you know with the same grade that didn't even get a sniff from an IVY? Maybe just maybe this whole "ivy" thing is abit overblown???
Actually it's more about his work ethic, ability to overcome obsticals. And don't forget about stellar morals, unfortunately this is what is missing from the cheating holdbacks!
I'm amazed at how many people are getting worked up over the Cham/St. A's vs. public school debate. These are catholic schools we're talking about, not prestigious private schools. Almost anyone can get into these schools by taking a fairly simple aptitude test that most students pass. Long Island has some of the top public schools on long island and any academic statistics are clearly skewed because these schools take everyone, there aren't standards to get in or stay in. But there is nothing special about these catholic schools - they're not for rich kids, the best athletes, or the brightest. I'm not knocking them, they are perfectly fine learning institutions, but they offer nothing special. Are they better learning environments than Wyandanch? Probably, but let's stop acting like they're the ivy league of long island high schools.
Wow - glad to hear your kid will not be going to that liberal bastion that is Yale university - like the below
(and yes I left off both Clintons because it didn't help prove my point)
ALITO, Samuel, 1975 Law Supreme Court justice.
ASHCROFT, John, 1964 former U.S. attorney general.
ASPIN, Les, 1960 former secretary of defense.
BALDRIGE, H. Malcolm Jr., 1944 former Commerce secretary
BUSH, George H.W., 1948 41st U.S. president.
BUSH, George H.W., 1968 43rd U.S. president.
CHAFEE, John, 1944 former U.S. senator from Rhode Island.
DANFORTH, Rev. John, 1963 Law former U.S. senator
FORD, Gerald R., 1941 Law 38th U.S. president.
GOSS, Porter, 1960 former CIA director
LIEBERMAN, Joseph I., 1964, 1967 Law U.S. senator
LOCKE, Gary, 1971 secretary of commerce
NEGROPONTE, John D. 1960former dir. of national intelligence
PATAKI, George, 1967 former governor of New [lacrosse].
PROXMIRE, William, 1938 former U.S. senator from Wisconsin.
TAFT, Robert A., 1910 former U.S. senator from Ohio.
TAFT, William Howard, 1878 27th U.S. president
THOMAS, Clarence, 1974 Law Supreme Court justice.
VANCE, Cyrus, 1939, 1942 Law former secretary of state.
WILSON, Peter B., 1956 former California governor.
(and yes I left off both Clintons because it didn't help prove my point)
ALITO, Samuel, 1975 Law Supreme Court justice.
ASHCROFT, John, 1964 former U.S. attorney general.
ASPIN, Les, 1960 former secretary of defense.
BALDRIGE, H. Malcolm Jr., 1944 former Commerce secretary
BUSH, George H.W., 1948 41st U.S. president.
BUSH, George H.W., 1968 43rd U.S. president.
CHAFEE, John, 1944 former U.S. senator from Rhode Island.
DANFORTH, Rev. John, 1963 Law former U.S. senator
FORD, Gerald R., 1941 Law 38th U.S. president.
GOSS, Porter, 1960 former CIA director
LIEBERMAN, Joseph I., 1964, 1967 Law U.S. senator
LOCKE, Gary, 1971 secretary of commerce
NEGROPONTE, John D. 1960former dir. of national intelligence
PATAKI, George, 1967 former governor of New [lacrosse].
PROXMIRE, William, 1938 former U.S. senator from Wisconsin.
TAFT, Robert A., 1910 former U.S. senator from Ohio.
TAFT, William Howard, 1878 27th U.S. president
THOMAS, Clarence, 1974 Law Supreme Court justice.
VANCE, Cyrus, 1939, 1942 Law former secretary of state.
WILSON, Peter B., 1956 former California governor.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smartest kid from Long Island Last Year "PUBLIC" - NOT SILVER SPOONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations to both 17-year-old Kwasi Enin of Shirley, New [lacrosse] and Avery Coffey, the 17-year-old from Washington D.C., for their extraordinary acceptances into several top-tier Ivy League schools. Enin, who is a black senior at William Floyd High School, was accepted into eight Ivy League schools, including Harvard University, Yale University, Princeton University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, the University of Pennsylvania and Brown University. Coffey, a resident of D.C.s notorious 8th Ward and a soon-to-be Benjamin Banneker Academic High School graduate (and also black), was accepted into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, and the University of Pennsylvania.
Congratulations to both 17-year-old Kwasi Enin of Shirley, New [lacrosse] and Avery Coffey, the 17-year-old from Washington D.C., for their extraordinary acceptances into several top-tier Ivy League schools. Enin, who is a black senior at William Floyd High School, was accepted into eight Ivy League schools, including Harvard University, Yale University, Princeton University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, the University of Pennsylvania and Brown University. Coffey, a resident of D.C.s notorious 8th Ward and a soon-to-be Benjamin Banneker Academic High School graduate (and also black), was accepted into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, and the University of Pennsylvania.
What Positions?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow - glad to hear your kid will not be going to that liberal bastion that is Yale university - like the below
(and yes I left off both Clintons because it didn't help prove my point)
ALITO, Samuel, 1975 Law Supreme Court justice.
ASHCROFT, John, 1964 former U.S. attorney general.
ASPIN, Les, 1960 former secretary of defense.
BALDRIGE, H. Malcolm Jr., 1944 former Commerce secretary
BUSH, George H.W., 1948 41st U.S. president.
BUSH, George H.W., 1968 43rd U.S. president.
CHAFEE, John, 1944 former U.S. senator from Rhode Island.
DANFORTH, Rev. John, 1963 Law former U.S. senator
FORD, Gerald R., 1941 Law 38th U.S. president.
GOSS, Porter, 1960 former CIA director
LIEBERMAN, Joseph I., 1964, 1967 Law U.S. senator
LOCKE, Gary, 1971 secretary of commerce
NEGROPONTE, John D. 1960former dir. of national intelligence
PATAKI, George, 1967 former governor of New [lacrosse].
PROXMIRE, William, 1938 former U.S. senator from Wisconsin.
TAFT, Robert A., 1910 former U.S. senator from Ohio.
TAFT, William Howard, 1878 27th U.S. president
THOMAS, Clarence, 1974 Law Supreme Court justice.
VANCE, Cyrus, 1939, 1942 Law former secretary of state.
WILSON, Peter B., 1956 former California governor.
(and yes I left off both Clintons because it didn't help prove my point)
ALITO, Samuel, 1975 Law Supreme Court justice.
ASHCROFT, John, 1964 former U.S. attorney general.
ASPIN, Les, 1960 former secretary of defense.
BALDRIGE, H. Malcolm Jr., 1944 former Commerce secretary
BUSH, George H.W., 1948 41st U.S. president.
BUSH, George H.W., 1968 43rd U.S. president.
CHAFEE, John, 1944 former U.S. senator from Rhode Island.
DANFORTH, Rev. John, 1963 Law former U.S. senator
FORD, Gerald R., 1941 Law 38th U.S. president.
GOSS, Porter, 1960 former CIA director
LIEBERMAN, Joseph I., 1964, 1967 Law U.S. senator
LOCKE, Gary, 1971 secretary of commerce
NEGROPONTE, John D. 1960former dir. of national intelligence
PATAKI, George, 1967 former governor of New [lacrosse].
PROXMIRE, William, 1938 former U.S. senator from Wisconsin.
TAFT, Robert A., 1910 former U.S. senator from Ohio.
TAFT, William Howard, 1878 27th U.S. president
THOMAS, Clarence, 1974 Law Supreme Court justice.
VANCE, Cyrus, 1939, 1942 Law former secretary of state.
WILSON, Peter B., 1956 former California governor.
Great list of accomplished people. Can you make that same list post 2000 graduates? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! How about 1990? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
There's so much ignorance and naivete being thrown about on both sides of this debate. It's off the rails.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow - glad to hear your kid will not be going to that liberal bastion that is Yale university - like the below
(and yes I left off both Clintons because it didn't help prove my point)
ALITO, Samuel, 1975 Law Supreme Court justice.
ASHCROFT, John, 1964 former U.S. attorney general.
ASPIN, Les, 1960 former secretary of defense.
BALDRIGE, H. Malcolm Jr., 1944 former Commerce secretary
BUSH, George H.W., 1948 41st U.S. president.
BUSH, George H.W., 1968 43rd U.S. president.
CHAFEE, John, 1944 former U.S. senator from Rhode Island.
DANFORTH, Rev. John, 1963 Law former U.S. senator
FORD, Gerald R., 1941 Law 38th U.S. president.
GOSS, Porter, 1960 former CIA director
LIEBERMAN, Joseph I., 1964, 1967 Law U.S. senator
LOCKE, Gary, 1971 secretary of commerce
NEGROPONTE, John D. 1960former dir. of national intelligence
PATAKI, George, 1967 former governor of New [lacrosse].
PROXMIRE, William, 1938 former U.S. senator from Wisconsin.
TAFT, Robert A., 1910 former U.S. senator from Ohio.
TAFT, William Howard, 1878 27th U.S. president
THOMAS, Clarence, 1974 Law Supreme Court justice.
VANCE, Cyrus, 1939, 1942 Law former secretary of state.
WILSON, Peter B., 1956 former California governor.
(and yes I left off both Clintons because it didn't help prove my point)
ALITO, Samuel, 1975 Law Supreme Court justice.
ASHCROFT, John, 1964 former U.S. attorney general.
ASPIN, Les, 1960 former secretary of defense.
BALDRIGE, H. Malcolm Jr., 1944 former Commerce secretary
BUSH, George H.W., 1948 41st U.S. president.
BUSH, George H.W., 1968 43rd U.S. president.
CHAFEE, John, 1944 former U.S. senator from Rhode Island.
DANFORTH, Rev. John, 1963 Law former U.S. senator
FORD, Gerald R., 1941 Law 38th U.S. president.
GOSS, Porter, 1960 former CIA director
LIEBERMAN, Joseph I., 1964, 1967 Law U.S. senator
LOCKE, Gary, 1971 secretary of commerce
NEGROPONTE, John D. 1960former dir. of national intelligence
PATAKI, George, 1967 former governor of New [lacrosse].
PROXMIRE, William, 1938 former U.S. senator from Wisconsin.
TAFT, Robert A., 1910 former U.S. senator from Ohio.
TAFT, William Howard, 1878 27th U.S. president
THOMAS, Clarence, 1974 Law Supreme Court justice.
VANCE, Cyrus, 1939, 1942 Law former secretary of state.
WILSON, Peter B., 1956 former California governor.
Great list of accomplished people. Can you make that same list post 2000 graduates? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! How about 1990? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
can you list any college that have a great list of accomplished people that graduated post 2000? that could be the stupid post (SWR thread excluded) ever on BOTC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow - glad to hear your kid will not be going to that liberal bastion that is Yale university - like the below
(and yes I left off both Clintons because it didn't help prove my point)
ALITO, Samuel, 1975 Law Supreme Court justice.
ASHCROFT, John, 1964 former U.S. attorney general.
ASPIN, Les, 1960 former secretary of defense.
BALDRIGE, H. Malcolm Jr., 1944 former Commerce secretary
BUSH, George H.W., 1948 41st U.S. president.
BUSH, George H.W., 1968 43rd U.S. president.
CHAFEE, John, 1944 former U.S. senator from Rhode Island.
DANFORTH, Rev. John, 1963 Law former U.S. senator
FORD, Gerald R., 1941 Law 38th U.S. president.
GOSS, Porter, 1960 former CIA director
LIEBERMAN, Joseph I., 1964, 1967 Law U.S. senator
LOCKE, Gary, 1971 secretary of commerce
NEGROPONTE, John D. 1960former dir. of national intelligence
PATAKI, George, 1967 former governor of New [lacrosse].
PROXMIRE, William, 1938 former U.S. senator from Wisconsin.
TAFT, Robert A., 1910 former U.S. senator from Ohio.
TAFT, William Howard, 1878 27th U.S. president
THOMAS, Clarence, 1974 Law Supreme Court justice.
VANCE, Cyrus, 1939, 1942 Law former secretary of state.
WILSON, Peter B., 1956 former California governor.
(and yes I left off both Clintons because it didn't help prove my point)
ALITO, Samuel, 1975 Law Supreme Court justice.
ASHCROFT, John, 1964 former U.S. attorney general.
ASPIN, Les, 1960 former secretary of defense.
BALDRIGE, H. Malcolm Jr., 1944 former Commerce secretary
BUSH, George H.W., 1948 41st U.S. president.
BUSH, George H.W., 1968 43rd U.S. president.
CHAFEE, John, 1944 former U.S. senator from Rhode Island.
DANFORTH, Rev. John, 1963 Law former U.S. senator
FORD, Gerald R., 1941 Law 38th U.S. president.
GOSS, Porter, 1960 former CIA director
LIEBERMAN, Joseph I., 1964, 1967 Law U.S. senator
LOCKE, Gary, 1971 secretary of commerce
NEGROPONTE, John D. 1960former dir. of national intelligence
PATAKI, George, 1967 former governor of New [lacrosse].
PROXMIRE, William, 1938 former U.S. senator from Wisconsin.
TAFT, Robert A., 1910 former U.S. senator from Ohio.
TAFT, William Howard, 1878 27th U.S. president
THOMAS, Clarence, 1974 Law Supreme Court justice.
VANCE, Cyrus, 1939, 1942 Law former secretary of state.
WILSON, Peter B., 1956 former California governor.
Great list of accomplished people. Can you make that same list post 2000 graduates? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! How about 1990? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
can you list any college that have a great list of accomplished people that graduated post 2000? that could be the stupid post (SWR thread excluded) ever on BOTC
Actually you might be the stupidest person on botc by far. I'll explain, because clearly I have to. The list of people above are mostly conservative in there political beliefs. My challenge to the poster was to try and put together a similar list of graduates with similar views that have graduated post 1990. Nearly an immpossible task. Given the liberal indoctrination that takes place. Got now
I cant wait for the first tourney. You are all on lax withdrawal. I think (mercifully) the reclassify conversation on the 2018 thread finally burnt out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's so much ignorance and naivete being thrown about on both sides of this debate. It's off the rails.
Now you Sir/Miss(am I allowed to say Miss?) are somebody I could enjoy a conversation with!
The heights of impossible ignorance on both sides has been astounding to read on this thread. It makes the SWR thread boring;)
If you are going to call someone out as being the dumbest on back of the cage maybe you should figure out when to use THEIR or THERE in the proper context ,
The reclassed 2018 goalie, NOW 2019 goalie who will be attending Chaminade HS next Sept and playing in the cage the following spring will never be forgotten about.
We all know he will be accepted to the school, as he was already and make the team, as he is an Express player.
To that end.....
The goalies who would like to be a part of the Chaminade HS Class of 2019 are all taking the CHSEE on October 26th.
Right now these boys are working with trainers, practicing with their teams and studying hard.
They have not and will never put to rest the fact that a 2018 goalie reclassed to gain a position which should have been theirs if he was not there.
Keeping the dream alive for themselves is what they are all focusing on.
Power to the Players.
We all know he will be accepted to the school, as he was already and make the team, as he is an Express player.
To that end.....
The goalies who would like to be a part of the Chaminade HS Class of 2019 are all taking the CHSEE on October 26th.
Right now these boys are working with trainers, practicing with their teams and studying hard.
They have not and will never put to rest the fact that a 2018 goalie reclassed to gain a position which should have been theirs if he was not there.
Keeping the dream alive for themselves is what they are all focusing on.
Power to the Players.
Channi is still an egocentric chauvinist...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are going to call someone out as being the dumbest on back of the cage maybe you should figure out when to use THEIR or THERE in the proper context ,
Wrote the post on a smart phone, can barely see it. Let alone proof read it. Is the typo all you got over THERE? Figures...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are going to call someone out as being the dumbest on back of the cage maybe you should figure out when to use THEIR or THERE in the proper context ,
Wrote the post on a smart phone, can barely see it. Let alone proof read it. Is the typo all you got over THERE? Figures...
The last letters for "There" and "Their" are not even close on the keypad. Sorry, but poor grammar is the call. Despite poor grammar, doesn't call for other guy's rant.
You all are assuming that a decision to attend Chaminade has something to do with a specific sport. I can assure you that athletics might be 7th or 8th down on the list of reasons why Chaminade families have decided to go this route. Athletics has very little to nothing to do with attending the school.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You all are assuming that a decision to attend Chaminade has something to do with a specific sport. I can assure you that athletics might be 7th or 8th down on the list of reasons why Chaminade families have decided to go this route. Athletics has very little to nothing to do with attending the school.
1. Education
2. Athletics
3. Faith
Then everything elsesorry.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are going to call someone out as being the dumbest on back of the cage maybe you should figure out when to use THEIR or THERE in the proper context ,
Wrote the post on a smart phone, can barely see it. Let alone proof read it. Is the typo all you got over THERE? Figures...
The last letters for "There" and "Their" are not even close on the keypad. Sorry, but poor grammar is the call. Despite poor grammar, doesn't call for other guy's rant.
Ok grammar police. Surely with your line of thinking you are confuse by the definition of "is".
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You all are assuming that a decision to attend Chaminade has something to do with a specific sport. I can assure you that athletics might be 7th or 8th down on the list of reasons why Chaminade families have decided to go this route. Athletics has very little to nothing to do with attending the school.
1. Education
2. Athletics
3. Faith
Then everything elsesorry.
YES, YES and YES. However, SPORTS are a tredmendous part of the decision making process for an athlete and his parents when deciding which catholic high school to attend.
You do see the athletic center at Chaminade don't you???
That was constructed instead of a science or technology research center. The GYM was contructed instead of a new chapel. The GYM was contructed instead of a new music theatre.
We are calling spades spades here.
Do not kid yourself.
Keep telling yourself that.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
Enough with this topic already!! We are talking about catholic schools!! Not private schools. There are better public schools on Long Island. End of story. Let it go.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough with this topic already!! We are talking about catholic schools!! Not private schools. There are better public schools on Long Island. End of story. Let it go.
Ha! You go with an exasperated enough already, clearly tired of the school argument, which is fair, but then you end with another point to argue. Brilliant!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
There shouldn't be any doubt that given one spot, Chaminade would admit a straight A non-athlete over a B- all-American laxer every single time. Not every Catholic school can say that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
There shouldn't be any doubt that given one spot, Chaminade would admit a straight A non-athlete over a B- all-American laxer every single time. Not every Catholic school can say that.
You would think that with drawing great talent from all corners of Nassau and even some Suffolk that Chaminade wouldn't be losing to small publics that only draw from a 2 mile radius like Yorktown. Somethin' aint right with that. And why are they ducking their next door neighbor GC?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You all are assuming that a decision to attend Chaminade has something to do with a specific sport. I can assure you that athletics might be 7th or 8th down on the list of reasons why Chaminade families have decided to go this route. Athletics has very little to nothing to do with attending the school.
1. Education
2. Athletics
3. Faith
Then everything elsesorry.
Wrong. You don't subject yourself to 4 years of Catholic discipline if faith is only #3. Faith, education and athletics somewhere down the list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You all are assuming that a decision to attend Chaminade has something to do with a specific sport. I can assure you that athletics might be 7th or 8th down on the list of reasons why Chaminade families have decided to go this route. Athletics has very little to nothing to do with attending the school.
1. Education
2. Athletics
3. Faith
Then everything elsesorry.
Wrong. You don't subject yourself to 4 years of Catholic discipline if faith is only #3. Faith, education and athletics somewhere down the list.
You are wrong! The kid don't make the decision, the parents do. I attended Catholic grammar school, high school, college and grad school. Faith is for the parents to feel better about paying. I never thought of faith as the first thing, initially it was location then sports and then cost for the degrees I wanted. Faith was lower than 3, sorry to say.
What is the tuition for Express this year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You all are assuming that a decision to attend Chaminade has something to do with a specific sport. I can assure you that athletics might be 7th or 8th down on the list of reasons why Chaminade families have decided to go this route. Athletics has very little to nothing to do with attending the school.
1. Education
2. Athletics
3. Faith
Then everything elsesorry.
Wrong. You don't subject yourself to 4 years of Catholic discipline if faith is only #3. Faith, education and athletics somewhere down the list.
You are wrong! The kid don't make the decision, the parents do. I attended Catholic grammar school, high school, college and grad school. Faith is for the parents to feel better about paying. I never thought of faith as the first thing, initially it was location then sports and then cost for the degrees I wanted. Faith was lower than 3, sorry to say.
What is Catholic discipline exactly? Tremendous corruption, sexual misfits, scare tactics? That's discipline? Give me a break.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
There shouldn't be any doubt that given one spot, Chaminade would admit a straight A non-athlete over a B- all-American laxer every single time. Not every Catholic school can say that.
You would think that with drawing great talent from all corners of Nassau and even some Suffolk that Chaminade wouldn't be losing to small publics that only draw from a 2 mile radius like Yorktown. Somethin' aint right with that. And why are they ducking their next door neighbor GC?
How do you know it is not GC ducking Chaminade?
1 Million Dollars!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
There shouldn't be any doubt that given one spot, Chaminade would admit a straight A non-athlete over a B- all-American laxer every single time. Not every Catholic school can say that.
You would think that with drawing great talent from all corners of Nassau and even some Suffolk that Chaminade wouldn't be losing to small publics that only draw from a 2 mile radius like Yorktown. Somethin' aint right with that. And why are they ducking their next door neighbor GC?
How do you know it is not GC ducking Chaminade?
Agree 100%. Chaminade would be more than happy to play (and beat) them. GC, on the other hand, has an issue since recently many of their top players are gravitating towards Chaminade. There are 5-6 top kids from GC in the current freshman class and a big group studying hard now for the entrance exam. The last thing the GC coaches want to do is fuel that fire by playing Chaminade and getting destroyed.....
By the way, there is no formal application for Chaminade and kids dont submit their athletic accomplishments in an effort to get admitted. It is the admission test....Anyone talking about how the administration weighs the straight A academic against the B- star lax player just doesn't know what they are talking about. You need to do well on the test or you don't get in....period.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
There shouldn't be any doubt that given one spot, Chaminade would admit a straight A non-athlete over a B- all-American laxer every single time. Not every Catholic school can say that.
You would think that with drawing great talent from all corners of Nassau and even some Suffolk that Chaminade wouldn't be losing to small publics that only draw from a 2 mile radius like Yorktown. Somethin' aint right with that. And why are they ducking their next door neighbor GC?
How do you know it is not GC ducking Chaminade?
Agree 100%. Chaminade would be more than happy to play (and beat) them. GC, on the other hand, has an issue since recently many of their top players are gravitating towards Chaminade. There are 5-6 top kids from GC in the current freshman class and a big group studying hard now for the entrance exam. The last thing the GC coaches want to do is fuel that fire by playing Chaminade and getting destroyed.....
You don't need to study hard for that test, B students pass it routinely...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the way, there is no formal application for Chaminade and kids dont submit their athletic accomplishments in an effort to get admitted. It is the admission test....Anyone talking about how the administration weighs the straight A academic against the B- star lax player just doesn't know what they are talking about. You need to do well on the test or you don't get in....period.
LMAO. Righhhtttt!!!!
And when you don't get in, you can appeal!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the way, there is no formal application for Chaminade and kids dont submit their athletic accomplishments in an effort to get admitted. It is the admission test....Anyone talking about how the administration weighs the straight A academic against the B- star lax player just doesn't know what they are talking about. You need to do well on the test or you don't get in....period.
But there is limited capacity for each class and given one last spot, they'd take take the higher test score over the laxer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
There shouldn't be any doubt that given one spot, Chaminade would admit a straight A non-athlete over a B- all-American laxer every single time. Not every Catholic school can say that.
You would think that with drawing great talent from all corners of Nassau and even some Suffolk that Chaminade wouldn't be losing to small publics that only draw from a 2 mile radius like Yorktown. Somethin' aint right with that. And why are they ducking their next door neighbor GC?
How do you know it is not GC ducking Chaminade?
Agree 100%. Chaminade would be more than happy to play (and beat) them. GC, on the other hand, has an issue since recently many of their top players are gravitating towards Chaminade. There are 5-6 top kids from GC in the current freshman class and a big group studying hard now for the entrance exam. The last thing the GC coaches want to do is fuel that fire by playing Chaminade and getting destroyed.....
You don't need to study hard for that test, B students pass it routinely...
It is not pass/fail my friend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the way, there is no formal application for Chaminade and kids dont submit their athletic accomplishments in an effort to get admitted. It is the admission test....Anyone talking about how the administration weighs the straight A academic against the B- star lax player just doesn't know what they are talking about. You need to do well on the test or you don't get in....period.
But there is limited capacity for each class and given one last spot, they'd take take the higher test score over the laxer.
They don't even know that he is a laxer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the way, there is no formal application for Chaminade and kids dont submit their athletic accomplishments in an effort to get admitted. It is the admission test....Anyone talking about how the administration weighs the straight A academic against the B- star lax player just doesn't know what they are talking about. You need to do well on the test or you don't get in....period.
LMAO. Righhhtttt!!!!
Laugh all you want. It is the truth. Or is it impossible for you to conceive of a kid being a top lacrosse player and also very bright?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the way, there is no formal application for Chaminade and kids dont submit their athletic accomplishments in an effort to get admitted. It is the admission test....Anyone talking about how the administration weighs the straight A academic against the B- star lax player just doesn't know what they are talking about. You need to do well on the test or you don't get in....period.
LMAO. Righhhtttt!!!!
Laugh all you want. It is the truth. Or is it impossible for you to conceive of a kid being a top lacrosse player and also very bright?
how do they know about legacy kids. You know the kids that - Dad went their, Uncle when they're, brother went there. I don't think admissions is purely transparent but I don't know
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the way, there is no formal application for Chaminade and kids dont submit their athletic accomplishments in an effort to get admitted. It is the admission test....Anyone talking about how the administration weighs the straight A academic against the B- star lax player just doesn't know what they are talking about. You need to do well on the test or you don't get in....period.
LMAO. Righhhtttt!!!!
Laugh all you want. It is the truth. Or is it impossible for you to conceive of a kid being a top lacrosse player and also very bright?
That makes it even worse- if a kid is VERY BRIGHT- do not5 reclassify said KID!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the way, there is no formal application for Chaminade and kids dont submit their athletic accomplishments in an effort to get admitted. It is the admission test....Anyone talking about how the administration weighs the straight A academic against the B- star lax player just doesn't know what they are talking about. You need to do well on the test or you don't get in....period.
LMAO. Righhhtttt!!!!
Laugh all you want. It is the truth. Or is it impossible for you to conceive of a kid being a top lacrosse player and also very bright?
How about an All-American laxer that's not very bright? Forward his application to St A's?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
Your alumni say different.
Take a look on Jericho Turnpike. I do not see an education center standing there. It is a state of the art Athletic Center.
There shouldn't be any doubt that given one spot, Chaminade would admit a straight A non-athlete over a B- all-American laxer every single time. Not every Catholic school can say that.
You would think that with drawing great talent from all corners of Nassau and even some Suffolk that Chaminade wouldn't be losing to small publics that only draw from a 2 mile radius like Yorktown. Somethin' aint right with that. And why are they ducking their next door neighbor GC?
How do you know it is not GC ducking Chaminade?
Agree 100%. Chaminade would be more than happy to play (and beat) them. GC, on the other hand, has an issue since recently many of their top players are gravitating towards Chaminade. There are 5-6 top kids from GC in the current freshman class and a big group studying hard now for the entrance exam. The last thing the GC coaches want to do is fuel that fire by playing Chaminade and getting destroyed.....
You don't need to study hard for that test, B students pass it routinely...
Sorry but you are just flat wrong about that, my son had a couple of very talented lax players who are all in the advanced classes in their public schools (including one whose dad graduated from Chaminade) who did not get accepted. They were accepted by other Catholic high schools but not Chaminade. So please stop trying to denigrate the kids that get accepted to Chaminade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the way, there is no formal application for Chaminade and kids dont submit their athletic accomplishments in an effort to get admitted. It is the admission test....Anyone talking about how the administration weighs the straight A academic against the B- star lax player just doesn't know what they are talking about. You need to do well on the test or you don't get in....period.
LMAO. Righhhtttt!!!!
Laugh all you want. It is the truth. Or is it impossible for you to conceive of a kid being a top lacrosse player and also very bright?
Correct. I will laugh all I want! If you don't think that MANY Chaminade boys accepted aren't with favors or coaches giving lists than you need to wake up.
Also, I agree that it is possible that a "top lacrosse" player can also be very bright, my wife gave birth to one. And he perfers black and gold. He likes to be in a realitsc intuition acdemically that resembles LIFE. You know, males & females interacting.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the way, there is no formal application for Chaminade and kids dont submit their athletic accomplishments in an effort to get admitted. It is the admission test....Anyone talking about how the administration weighs the straight A academic against the B- star lax player just doesn't know what they are talking about. You need to do well on the test or you don't get in....period.
I call BS on that one. If you don't do well on the test you can absolutely still get in. Be a very good athlete, have someone make a phone call, legacy, etc. A decent don't get in intially based on the test score but then are magically enrolled later after a coach sees them or a phone call is made.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the way, there is no formal application for Chaminade and kids dont submit their athletic accomplishments in an effort to get admitted. It is the admission test....Anyone talking about how the administration weighs the straight A academic against the B- star lax player just doesn't know what they are talking about. You need to do well on the test or you don't get in....period.
I call BS on that one. If you don't do well on the test you can absolutely still get in. Be a very good athlete, have someone make a phone call, legacy, etc. A decent don't get in intially based on the test score but then are magically enrolled later after a coach sees them or a phone call is made.
YES- this happens.
Why can't Larry Miller make a thread for this and move these posts there? That way people can actually talk about the Express here.
There is a cut-off score for admission. For arguments sake, if in a given year it is 92 then, yes, there will be kids who get 89 whose dad or uncle went there who may get in. However, if the kid cranks out a 70, I dont care if he is the best player around, he is not getting in. I know of one young man who didn't get in years back despite his Dad having gone there and been valedictorian. So, there are exceptions but also a score beneath which your connections can't help. Lastly, I agree the notion that the coaches have admission picks is pure nonsense. Imagine if they did!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is a cut-off score for admission. For arguments sake, if in a given year it is 92 then, yes, there will be kids who get 89 whose dad or uncle went there who may get in. However, if the kid cranks out a 70, I dont care if he is the best player around, he is not getting in. I know of one young man who didn't get in years back despite his Dad having gone there and been valedictorian. So, there are exceptions but also a score beneath which your connections can't help. Lastly, I agree the notion that the coaches have admission picks is pure nonsense. Imagine if they did!
yes they do don't be so naive
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is a cut-off score for admission. For arguments sake, if in a given year it is 92 then, yes, there will be kids who get 89 whose dad or uncle went there who may get in. However, if the kid cranks out a 70, I dont care if he is the best player around, he is not getting in. I know of one young man who didn't get in years back despite his Dad having gone there and been valedictorian. So, there are exceptions but also a score beneath which your connections can't help. Lastly, I agree the notion that the coaches have admission picks is pure nonsense. Imagine if they did!
yes they do don't be so naive
No, they dont.....don't be so cynical.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Also, I agree that it is possible that a "top lacrosse" player can also be very bright, my wife gave birth to one. And he perfers black and gold. He likes to be in a realitsc intuition acdemically that resembles LIFE. You know, males & females interacting.
his father must be very proud, tell him congratulations when you see him.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Also, I agree that it is possible that a "top lacrosse" player can also be very bright, my wife gave birth to one. And he perfers black and gold. He likes to be in a realitsc intuition acdemically that resembles LIFE. You know, males & females interacting.
his father must be very proud, tell him congratulations when you see him.....
This whole debate is a joke. Both your pvt schools suck. Come into the city and try and get in somewhere. Half the class goes ivy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Also, I agree that it is possible that a "top lacrosse" player can also be very bright, my wife gave birth to one. And he perfers black and gold. He likes to be in a realitsc intuition acdemically that resembles LIFE. You know, males & females interacting.
his father must be very proud, tell him congratulations when you see him.....
WE HAVE A WINNER !!!
Best response I have read anywhere on this site in quite some time!
Is there a thread about Express lacrosse somewhere? I was curious if anything was happening regarding the teams
Back to lax.
Express seems to be fading. 2021-2024 are all mediocre. Honey badgers the exception.
Express seems to be fading. 2021-2024 are all mediocre. Honey badgers the exception.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Back to lax.
Express seems to be fading. 2021-2024 are all mediocre. Honey badgers the exception.
Express seems to be fading. 2021-2024 are all mediocre. Honey badgers the exception.
Yeah. But it will come around. A lot competition from other clubs. THe brand is still very strong.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there a thread about Express lacrosse somewhere? I was curious if anything was happening regarding the teams
Does anyone know the tuition for express?
Tuition was stated when you recieved your invite letter. Summer tuition is $1800 includes 5 tournaments , uniform, and the rest like usual , practices. Anything extra would be additional charge most likely . It's average price .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tuition was stated when you recieved your invite letter. Summer tuition is $1800 includes 5 tournaments , uniform, and the rest like usual , practices. Anything extra would be additional charge most likely . It's average price .
Thank you for the info.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tuition was stated when you recieved your invite letter. Summer tuition is $1800 includes 5 tournaments , uniform, and the rest like usual , practices. Anything extra would be additional charge most likely . It's average price .
Plus $350 for 6 fall practices and $150 or $200 per fall tournament.
What about Express North and Express NYC - are they less expensive?
2019 Express ended 2014 summer on a high note They really came into their own. I am not a part of the team (but a fan); I am curious where they are slated to play for the fall.
Is there any chance the LI teams will play each other this fall. Remembering it is not really which team is better or best but how can we get the boys better. I truly enjoy watching the boys now that they are starting to "get it".
Is there any chance the LI teams will play each other this fall. Remembering it is not really which team is better or best but how can we get the boys better. I truly enjoy watching the boys now that they are starting to "get it".
According to U.S. News, Long Island's top 10 high schools are:
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to U.S. News, Long Island's top 10 high schools are:
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
The sentence is where you went off the rails. Of course 100% were accepted. They don't take any kids that have any academic issues. Or any other issues. Publics are REQUIRED to educate every student that resides in the district, despite any issue. Can't compare.
PLEASE STOP TRYING TO LUMP ST ANTHONYS WITH CHAMINADE. APPLES AND ORNAGES. ONE IS ACKNOWLEDGED AS AN VERY GOOD ACADMIC SCHOOL WITH HISTORY AND A RECORD OF EXCELLENCE, THE OTHER IS REALLY NOT IN SAME LEAGUE AS A SCHOOL. WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES IS NOT THE MEASURE OF A GREAT SCHOOL.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to U.S. News, Long Island's top 10 high schools are:
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
The sentence is where you went off the rails. Of course 100% were accepted. They don't take any kids that have any academic issues. Or any other issues. Publics are REQUIRED to educate every student that resides in the district, despite any issue. Can't compare.
Nobody cares about your rankings except your Realtor and receiver of Taxes. Our kids go to Catholic schools because they want to. They are part something that bonds them for a lifetime.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to U.S. News, Long Island's top 10 high schools are:
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
The sentence is where you went off the rails. Of course 100% were accepted. They don't take any kids that have any academic issues. Or any other issues. Publics are REQUIRED to educate every student that resides in the district, despite any issue. Can't compare.
Nobody cares about your rankings except your Realtor and receiver of Taxes. Our kids go to Catholic schools because they want to. They are part something that bonds them for a lifetime.
Pedophelia?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to U.S. News, Long Island's top 10 high schools are:
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
The sentence is where you went off the rails. Of course 100% were accepted. They don't take any kids that have any academic issues. Or any other issues. Publics are REQUIRED to educate every student that resides in the district, despite any issue. Can't compare.
Nobody cares about your rankings except your Realtor and receiver of Taxes. Our kids go to Catholic schools because they want to. They are part something that bonds them for a lifetime.
Pedophelia?
You're an [lacrosse]... happy new year
Do any 2017 teams need anyone?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to U.S. News, Long Island's top 10 high schools are:
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
The sentence is where you went off the rails. Of course 100% were accepted. They don't take any kids that have any academic issues. Or any other issues. Publics are REQUIRED to educate every student that resides in the district, despite any issue. Can't compare.
Nobody cares about your rankings except your Realtor and receiver of Taxes. Our kids go to Catholic schools because they want to. They are part something that bonds them for a lifetime.
Pedophelia?
No, think it's racially insensitive behavior
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to U.S. News, Long Island's top 10 high schools are:
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
The sentence is where you went off the rails. Of course 100% were accepted. They don't take any kids that have any academic issues. Or any other issues. Publics are REQUIRED to educate every student that resides in the district, despite any issue. Can't compare.
Nobody cares about your rankings except your Realtor and receiver of Taxes. Our kids go to Catholic schools because they want to. They are part something that bonds them for a lifetime.
Pedophelia?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do any 2017 teams need anyone?
I believe the Express are always looking to add.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to U.S. News, Long Island's top 10 high schools are:
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
The sentence is where you went off the rails. Of course 100% were accepted. They don't take any kids that have any academic issues. Or any other issues. Publics are REQUIRED to educate every student that resides in the district, despite any issue. Can't compare.
Nobody cares about your rankings except your Realtor and receiver of Taxes. Our kids go to Catholic schools because they want to. They are part something that bonds them for a lifetime.
Pedophelia?
WOW! You're a sick twist!! Can't figure out if you're jealous you can't afford for your kid to attend one of these schools or if your kid can't make the grade to get into one of them, either way you're an idiot! And you just insulted an entire group of people who work tirelessly in their dedication to their faith, just an FYI there genius not all clergy are pedophiles.
Perhaps a new thread is in order called "Back of the Class"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to U.S. News, Long Island's top 10 high schools are:
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
The sentence is where you went off the rails. Of course 100% were accepted. They don't take any kids that have any academic issues. Or any other issues. Publics are REQUIRED to educate every student that resides in the district, despite any issue. Can't compare.
Nobody cares about your rankings except your Realtor and receiver of Taxes. Our kids go to Catholic schools because they want to. They are part something that bonds them for a lifetime.
Pedophelia?
You are the one talking about how there is a special bond...I expect the teachers to be good and bad in public schools. You are putting your trust in a bunch of celibate men and women. I choose not to do that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to U.S. News, Long Island's top 10 high schools are:
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
The sentence is where you went off the rails. Of course 100% were accepted. They don't take any kids that have any academic issues. Or any other issues. Publics are REQUIRED to educate every student that resides in the district, despite any issue. Can't compare.
Nobody cares about your rankings except your Realtor and receiver of Taxes. Our kids go to Catholic schools because they want to. They are part something that bonds them for a lifetime.
Pedophelia?
You are the one talking about how there is a special bond...I expect the teachers to be good and bad in public schools. You are putting your trust in a bunch of celibate men and women. I choose not to do that.
Friendships among classmates that last a lifetime. What a disrespectful and horrible thing to say.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to U.S. News, Long Island's top 10 high schools are:
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
The sentence is where you went off the rails. Of course 100% were accepted. They don't take any kids that have any academic issues. Or any other issues. Publics are REQUIRED to educate every student that resides in the district, despite any issue. Can't compare.
Nobody cares about your rankings except your Realtor and receiver of Taxes. Our kids go to Catholic schools because they want to. They are part something that bonds them for a lifetime.
Pedophelia?
WOW! You're a sick twist!! Can't figure out if you're jealous you can't afford for your kid to attend one of these schools or if your kid can't make the grade to get into one of them, either way you're an idiot! And you just insulted an entire group of people who work tirelessly in their dedication to their faith, just an FYI there genius not all clergy are pedophiles.
Perhaps a new thread is in order called "Back of the Class"
How about if you guess a lifetime educated catholic school graduate. Funny, isn't it?
And the kids aren't choosing, the parents are! And unless the lax gods pull him into the warm embrace of a free ride to Chaminade, we'll be sending our kids to public schools with the rest of the heathens!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to U.S. News, Long Island's top 10 high schools are:
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
1. Jericho High School; Jericho
2. Manhasset Secondary School; Manhasset
3. William A. Shine Great Neck South High School; Great Neck
4. Garden City High School; Garden City
5. South Side High School, Rockville Centre
6. Cold Spring Harbor High School; Cold Spring Harbor
7. The Wheatley School; Old Westbury
8. Syosset Senior High School; Syosset
9. Herricks High School; New Hyde Park
10. Harborfields High School; Greenlawn
The flaw in this list is that it ranks only public schools.
It is very likely that a listing of the best schools on Long island including publics, privates and religious such as Chaminade, St. A's, Friends, Kellenberg, Sacred Heart, Mercy, Portledge, Waldorf and Stony Brook would be significantly different (especially at the top).
Here are some very interesting stats
Almost 13 thousand kids go to Catholic High Schools on LI
(up almost 2o% percent in the past 10 years).
The draw to the Catholic High Schools is about 60% from catholic elementary/ 40% from public
Chaminade takes those kids that score best on the test.
Lastly, 100% of Chaminade kids applied and were accepted to colleges last year. Most public schools can't say that.
The sentence is where you went off the rails. Of course 100% were accepted. They don't take any kids that have any academic issues. Or any other issues. Publics are REQUIRED to educate every student that resides in the district, despite any issue. Can't compare.
Nobody cares about your rankings except your Realtor and receiver of Taxes. Our kids go to Catholic schools because they want to. They are part something that bonds them for a lifetime.
Pedophelia?
No, think it's racially insensitive behavior
Wasn't that front page Newsday? Catholic school kids acting badly,again!
This line of subject matter must cease now or this thread is headed for the vault.
Please don't test me. Get back on track.
Please don't test me. Get back on track.
Personally, I choose to raise my family in an affluent community that values education and is listed amongst the top schools on that list. Our public school sends 95+% of its students to college every year, while giving my son a racially diverse co-educational experience, without the religious dogma
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Personally, I choose to raise my family in an affluent community that values education and is listed amongst the top schools on that list. Our public school sends 95+% of its students to college every year, while giving my son a racially diverse co-educational experience, without the religious dogma
There was maybe 1 school on that list Harborfields that has a racially diverse student body.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Personally, I choose to raise my family in an affluent community that values education and is listed amongst the top schools on that list. Our public school sends 95+% of its students to college every year, while giving my son a racially diverse co-educational experience, without the religious dogma
Not everyone can afford an "affluent" community. You do know that right?
How about we get back to LACROSSE? This is Back of the CAGE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Personally, I choose to raise my family in an affluent community that values education and is listed amongst the top schools on that list. Our public school sends 95+% of its students to college every year, while giving my son a racially diverse co-educational experience, without the religious dogma
Well I choose to raise my family in an impoverished community that does not value education and is listed among the bottom schools on any list. What a toolbag you are!
Of course I know that. I moved my family there so my children wouldn't be exposed to the likes of you and your family. Other than when we kick your a** on the lacrosse field
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
This line of subject matter must cease now or this thread is headed for the vault.
Please don't test me. Get back on track.
Please don't test me. Get back on track.
You just don't see or hear the same amount of animosity, disdain and hatred on other threads.Perhaps just the mere mention of that organization brings out the worst in folks.Why I wonder?
What tournaments are the 2021 kids doing this fall?
Anyone know When will we know what tournaments 2022 and 2021 will be in . I have two boys and no info yet . Has any teams recieved their schedule . Assuming these grades will not in Fall tourneys being no word . Can anyone elaborate . Thank you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
This line of subject matter must cease now or this thread is headed for the vault.
Please don't test me. Get back on track.
Please don't test me. Get back on track.
You just don't see or hear the same amount of animosity, disdain and hatred on other threads.Perhaps just the mere mention of that organization brings out the worst in folks.Why I wonder?
cant imagine.everyone loves Express
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know When will we know what tournaments 2022 and 2021 will be in . I have two boys and no info yet . Has any teams recieved their schedule . Assuming these grades will not in Fall tourneys being no word . Can anyone elaborate . Thank you.
2019 thread was looking for 2019 express info. Heard they are traveling up the east coast.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
This line of subject matter must cease now or this thread is headed for the vault.
Please don't test me. Get back on track.
Please don't test me. Get back on track.
You just don't see or hear the same amount of animosity, disdain and hatred on other threads.Perhaps just the mere mention of that organization brings out the worst in folks.Why I wonder?
cant imagine.everyone loves Express
Who wouldn't want to play on a team with 30+ other guys
2021 is a complete waste of time with the express it is all about the coaches kids and they are not even that good to say they deserve it . The head coach is a puppet and just does it so his kid can play for free .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 is a complete waste of time with the express it is all about the coaches kids and they are not even that good to say they deserve it . The head coach is a puppet and just does it so his kid can play for free .
Which Team????
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 is a complete waste of time with the express it is all about the coaches kids and they are not even that good to say they deserve it . The head coach is a puppet and just does it so his kid can play for free .
Sounds like a smart guy. I pay 1500 for my kid to play
YEA MAN !
Great thoughts shared from a Team Cancer !
Great that you have moved on to another !
Enjoy your next adventure .
Sincerely the 2021 Express Teams.
Great thoughts shared from a Team Cancer !
Great that you have moved on to another !
Enjoy your next adventure .
Sincerely the 2021 Express Teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 is a complete waste of time with the express it is all about the coaches kids and they are not even that good to say they deserve it . The head coach is a puppet and just does it so his kid can play for free .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 is a complete waste of time with the express it is all about the coaches kids and they are not even that good to say they deserve it . The head coach is a puppet and just does it so his kid can play for free .
Name of coach?
I do not think it is the team it is the organization
TC and doughnut boy Berry who is too busy trying to keep track of his phone on the sideline ...... good luck with that group
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TC and doughnut boy Berry who is too busy trying to keep track of his phone on the sideline ...... good luck with that group
I had heard Berry was not coaching for Express this year?? Any truth?
Berry is coaching with powers
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Berry is coaching with powers
which team?
The tortoises which replaces the wolves but under turtle power.
quote=Anonymous]
which team? [/quote]
quote=Anonymous]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Berry is coaching with powers
which team? [/quote]
Yes heard the Wolves name has changed to Tortoises as well because of Powers relationship with the Turtles and no this team.
[/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The tortoises which replaces the wolves but under turtle power.
quote=Anonymous]
which team?
quote=Anonymous]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Berry is coaching with powers
which team?
Any clue on how Express Westchester 2022 team is? We are playing them in the Havoc.
There is a lesson in all these criticisms of travel lacrosse and someone should write it up for the Harvard Business Review. A year ago Jesters didn't think they even needed to respond to parents who plunked down $100 to tryout....this year they were forced to send emails pleading for these same parents to bring their kid to a second (now free!) tryout to field a team. Express B parents woke up and realized they are the red headed step child and many moved as a block to the newly expanded Igloo program. Now youo also have Empire in the mixe and HDD and Legacy combinging. If there is a lesson it is probably "don't rest on your laurels" because the landscape for travel lacrosse on LI is dynamic is changing year-to-year. Maybe soon all directors will realize that they need to serve their customers (i.e. help all the kids developp and get better) or watch them flock to other programs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YEA MAN !
Great thoughts shared from a Team Cancer !
Great that you have moved on to another !
Enjoy your next adventure .
Sincerely the 2021 Express Teams.
The only cancer on that team was the coaches, absolutely terrible. They should have been fired not demoted. Good Luck Mr. Powers, maybe you can get their kids off the field and find some real talent.
Great thoughts shared from a Team Cancer !
Great that you have moved on to another !
Enjoy your next adventure .
Sincerely the 2021 Express Teams.
The only cancer on that team was the coaches, absolutely terrible. They should have been fired not demoted. Good Luck Mr. Powers, maybe you can get their kids off the field and find some real talent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 is a complete waste of time with the express it is all about the coaches kids and they are not even that good to say they deserve it . The head coach is a puppet and just does it so his kid can play for free .
Just out of curiosity saw the wolverines top players today playing for 2021 Legacys A team in their tournament , did the wolverines fold ? MC was there with his 2022 team so it's no secret that those kids are playing on Legacy. What's the status with the wolverines?
How did the 2022, 2021, and 2020 teams do today?
another detective on the prowl.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just out of curiosity saw the wolverines top players today playing for 2021 Legacys A team in their tournament , did the wolverines fold ? MC was there with his 2022 team so it's no secret that those kids are playing on Legacy. What's the status with the wolverines?
Who's the kid on the 8th grade team thats afraid to go near the ball? a real ground ball specialist! camps out near the cage when its safe to put him in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did the 2022, 2021, and 2020 teams do today?
2022 beat TLI White, 3V, and Legacy. I guess turning over 3/4 of the team was correct.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
another detective on the prowl.
Guess you were on the losing end�Get used to it and you will be a much happier person. Why does it matter if people are looking for results?? That is what this site is for, unfortunately we share it with people like you!!
Actually the original question which has not been answered , with regards to the 2021 wolves players, playing on Legacy today in tournament with MC knowingly allowing it seems to be a mystery on that teams existence?
Guess you were on the losing end�Get used to it and you will be a much happier person. Why does it matter if people are looking for results?? That is what this site is for, unfortunately we share it with people like you!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
another detective on the prowl.
Guess you were on the losing end�Get used to it and you will be a much happier person. Why does it matter if people are looking for results?? That is what this site is for, unfortunately we share it with people like you!!
So quick to jump on a comment without reading the whole thread. you my friend are the db, no one cares about the scores, the comment was about someone pointing out that wolverine kids were seen playing for other teams and MC was at the event. Learn how to read and then figure out the scroll on your mouse my friend, if you need help let us know. until then shut your foul mouth.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did the 2022, 2021, and 2020 teams do today?
2022 beat TLI White, 3V, and Legacy. I guess turning over 3/4 of the team was correct.
Thanks- were they competitive games? Anyone know about 2021 and 2020?
Sounds like an old db from last season lurking in the background to see if their move this year to greener pastures was the right switch once again . Go away .....Stay on your own travel forum or is it you been to so many programs you feel obligated to chime in on everyone?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So quick to jump on a comment without reading the whole thread. you my friend are the [ChillLaxin], no one gives a crap about the scores, the comment was about someone pointing out that wolverine kids were seen playing for other teams and MC was at the event. Learn how to read and then figure out the scroll on your mouse my friend, if you need help let us know. until then shut your foul mouth.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did the 2022, 2021, and 2020 teams do today?
2022 beat TLI White, 3V, and Legacy. I guess turning over 3/4 of the team was correct.
Thanks- were they competitive games? Anyone know about 2021 and 2020?
2021 beat Outlaws and lost to Legacy and Igloo.
I think the d bag is from your own town. That must hurt.
For almost all of 2021 games the margin of victory was one or two goals except for the gams against Igloo. It is clear that Igloo is by far the best and the rest of the 2021 teams that played today were about equal. The 2021 teams that played today were the Cudas, Outlaws, TLI, Legacy and Igloo. There was some talk that Legacy had about 5 of the better wolves kids play for them today but not sure if that is true. It should be a fun season with most of the teams very close in talent.
2022 beat TLI White, 3V, and Legacy. I guess turning over 3/4 of the team was correct.
Thanks- were they competitive games? Anyone know about 2021 and 2020?
2021 beat Outlaws and lost to Legacy and Igloo.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did the 2022, 2021, and 2020 teams do today?
2022 beat TLI White, 3V, and Legacy. I guess turning over 3/4 of the team was correct.
Thanks- were they competitive games? Anyone know about 2021 and 2020?
2021 beat Outlaws and lost to Legacy and Igloo.
How many of these boys are D1 recruits.
where was the 91 A team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many of these boys are D1 recruits.
Your an IDIOT!! Its called a discussion. No one is slinging any mud but you!
How did 2020 Team 2 look yesterday?
wow that was team 2? thought it was team 1 the way they played.
Great team scrimmages yesterday. As a 2017 parent I was very impressed with the play of the 2018 Terps team. Ball movement and team play was exceptional. Defense was also very disciplined. Couldn't help but notice play of their goalie with the black helmet. He was very impressive in net and made a lot of difficult saves. Was told by a 2018 parent he isn't the starting goalie because their starter was injured playing football. This team is very deep at all positions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great team scrimmages yesterday. As a 2017 parent I was very impressed with the play of the 2018 Terps team. Ball movement and team play was exceptional. Defense was also very disciplined. Couldn't help but notice play of their goalie with the black helmet. He was very impressive in net and made a lot of difficult saves. Was told by a 2018 parent he isn't the starting goalie because their starter was injured playing football. This team is very deep at all positions.
Thank you. I can sleep now.
Go away you weird creep!! LOL, you even write like a weirdo!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like an old D-Bag from last season lurking in the background to see if their move this year to greener pastures was the right switch once again . Go away .....Stay on your own travel forum or is it you been to so many programs you feel obligated to chime in on everyone?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So quick to jump on a comment without reading the whole thread. you my friend are the Dbag, no one gives a crap about the scores, the comment was about someone pointing out that wolverine kids were seen playing for other teams and MC was at the event. Learn how to read and then figure out the scroll on your mouse my friend, if you need help let us know. until then shut your foul mouth, you bag of D.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
where was the 91 A team?
Which one? 2022? Be thankful they decided to pass this tournament and let Express feel good about themselves!!
Just checked the Express website. No fall/winter tournaments for 2021 Team 3. That just confirms this team is a complete money grab. Shame!
Are you talking to yourself, everyone else and their mother knows, 3rd team is the cash register team. lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great team scrimmages yesterday. As a 2017 parent I was very impressed with the play of the 2018 Terps team. Ball movement and team play was exceptional. Defense was also very disciplined. Couldn't help but notice play of their goalie with the black helmet. He was very impressive in net and made a lot of difficult saves. Was told by a 2018 parent he isn't the starting goalie because their starter was injured playing football. This team is very deep at all positions.
Forgot to mention that the 2018 Terps beat up on the 2017 Team 1!!!! Ouch!!! Next Wednesday there will be another SHELL beat down
Be careful! Those footsteps are getting louder!!
Shell beat down?
OK Goalie Dad!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great team scrimmages yesterday. As a 2017 parent I was very impressed with the play of the 2018 Terps team. Ball movement and team play was exceptional. Defense was also very disciplined. Couldn't help but notice play of their goalie with the black helmet. He was very impressive in net and made a lot of difficult saves. Was told by a 2018 parent he isn't the starting goalie because their starter was injured playing football. This team is very deep at all positions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK Goalie Dad!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great team scrimmages yesterday. As a 2017 parent I was very impressed with the play of the 2018 Terps team. Ball movement and team play was exceptional. Defense was also very disciplined. Couldn't help but notice play of their goalie with the black helmet. He was very impressive in net and made a lot of difficult saves. Was told by a 2018 parent he isn't the starting goalie because their starter was injured playing football. This team is very deep at all positions.
How was the FOGO battle? Have heard both those kids pretty good?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Be careful! Those footsteps are getting louder!!
Relax 2018 parent - 2017 handled 2018 in Lake Placid pretty easily 8-4 (maybe 8-5?) - game was never close. And 2018 had their starting goalie...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just checked the Express website. No fall/winter tournaments for 2021 Team 3. That just confirms this team is a complete money grab. Shame!
Even after pages upon pages of warnings to stay away from anything to do with the Express except their A teams, it's amazing how many people don't heed those warnings and school of hard knocks that others have been through. Unbelievable how many suckers are out there wasting their money and a year of their time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Be careful! Those footsteps are getting louder!!
Relax 2018 parent - 2017 handled 2018 in Lake Placid pretty easily 8-4 (maybe 8-5?) - game was never close. And 2018 had their starting goalie...
Yes the did but most of the 2018 team was from the express B and C 2018 teams. So, beating them by 3/4 goals isn't saying much for the 2017 team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Be careful! Those footsteps are getting louder!!
Relax 2018 parent - 2017 handled 2018 in Lake Placid pretty easily 8-4 (maybe 8-5?) - game was never close. And 2018 had their starting goalie...
It was 8-5. 2018 did not have their first or second line defenseman. I am sure 2017 were also missing players. Still a very good game. There were no losers in that semi final.
The scrimmage between 2017 and 2018 on Monday was fun to watch. No one was bashing anyone in the original post. 2017 parent made some observations about the 2018 team that's all. Good luck to all. Each team will improve with practice. Teams have made changes and need time to play together. It will be a fun summer for both teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Be careful! Those footsteps are getting louder!!
Relax 2018 parent - 2017 handled 2018 in Lake Placid pretty easily 8-4 (maybe 8-5?) - game was never close. And 2018 had their starting goalie...
It was 8-5. 2018 did not have their first or second line defenseman. I am sure 2017 were also missing players. Still a very good game. There were no losers in that semi final.
Who cares, that was back in August. This last meeting was with near full strength for both teams and the better team won this time.
Forgot to mention that the 2018 Terps beat up on the 2017 Team 1!!!! Ouch!!! Next Wednesday there will be another SHELL beat down [/quote]
They are from the same organization. You shouldn't care about a meaningless scrimmage. All you need to do is ask the players who would win. They practice a lot together - the kids know. Don't try and stir up crap...
I was told 2017 only had 25 kids there. Their top 20 kids were missing, lol
2018 is a very strong team within its peer group - extreme, dukes, crabs, madlax, dukes and even laxachusets.
How is 2017 within its peer group?
I think both good solid teams and the one year difference is not as important as it was in the past as most of these boys are in growth mode now...
More importantly, how are the 2017 boys doing on the recruiting front? I can't speak for other 2018 parents, but I am curious to learn anything you have done that you wouldn't do again, or any other tips or advice 2017 parents could provide.
How is 2017 within its peer group?
I think both good solid teams and the one year difference is not as important as it was in the past as most of these boys are in growth mode now...
More importantly, how are the 2017 boys doing on the recruiting front? I can't speak for other 2018 parents, but I am curious to learn anything you have done that you wouldn't do again, or any other tips or advice 2017 parents could provide.
Gloat all you want 2018 parents. Our committed 2017 boys are all gone now, either on the Turtles or soon to be playing on the LIE committed team. You are entering freshmen tourney fall season and will be playing all the teams that now have grade hold backs. Let us know how you do by December. Enjoy the ride. It was a fun day to play with great coaches fully involved, and all the players know each other and train hard always. It's all about getting better to showcase our boys, not who won a prep scrimmage. Think big picture.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just checked the Express website. No fall/winter tournaments for 2021 Team 3. That just confirms this team is a complete money grab. Shame!
Even after pages upon pages of warnings to stay away from anything to do with the Express except their A teams, it's amazing how many people don't heed those warnings and school of hard knocks that others have been through. Unbelievable how many suckers are out there wasting their money and a year of their time.
Mine has been happy for years and I have had a great experience...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK Goalie Dad!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great team scrimmages yesterday. As a 2017 parent I was very impressed with the play of the 2018 Terps team. Ball movement and team play was exceptional. Defense was also very disciplined. Couldn't help but notice play of their goalie with the black helmet. He was very impressive in net and made a lot of difficult saves. Was told by a 2018 parent he isn't the starting goalie because their starter was injured playing football. This team is very deep at all positions.
How was the FOGO battle? Have heard both those kids pretty good?
2018 dominated, a 2017 parent told me usual starting FOGO was not there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great team scrimmages yesterday. As a 2017 parent I was very impressed with the play of the 2018 Terps team. Ball movement and team play was exceptional. Defense was also very disciplined. Couldn't help but notice play of their goalie with the black helmet. He was very impressive in net and made a lot of difficult saves. Was told by a 2018 parent he isn't the starting goalie because their starter was injured playing football. This team is very deep at all positions.
Forgot to mention that the 2018 Terps beat up on the 2017 Team 1!!!! Ouch!!! Next Wednesday there will be another SHELL beat down
What does this mean "another SHELL beat down"? Turtles are playing 2017 Team 1?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The scrimmage between 2017 and 2018 on Monday was fun to watch. No one was bashing anyone in the original post. 2017 parent made some observations about the 2018 team that's all. Good luck to all. Each team will improve with practice. Teams have made changes and need time to play together. It will be a fun summer for both teams.
That 2018 team is the express A team but 2017 team 1 is the express B team behind the Turtles.
Turtles are no longer affiliated with Express in any way. Fact!!!
Turtles aren't part of express
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles are no longer affiliated with Express in any way. Fact!!!
They still get their players from express when they need players. And whenever you read about any of the committed Turtles the club team is listed as Express. Fact!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles aren't part of express
correct.
That was then, this is now. Once MC gave the Express uniform contract to another business Desimone pulled all affiliations with Express.
Your turn.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was then, this is now. Once MC gave the Express uniform contract to another business Desimone pulled all affiliations with Express.
Go to the Turtles website and you'll see LI Express!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was then, this is now. Once MC gave the Express uniform contract to another business Desimone pulled all affiliations with Express.
Go to the Turtles website and you'll see LI Express!
Dont think its been updated based on tournament schedule from 2012.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles are no longer affiliated with Express in any way. Fact!!!
They still get their players from express when they need players. And whenever you read about any of the committed Turtles the club team is listed as Express. Fact!!!!
You are a sad out of the LOOP fool. Clueless. Turtles are gone from Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was then, this is now. Once MC gave the Express uniform contract to another business Desimone pulled all affiliations with Express.
Go to the Turtles website and you'll see LI Express!
If you went to Denver for u15, you would see around 10-11 Turtles playing for FCA National. The Express team was coached by MC.
-Why didn't the Turtles play for Express if they are PART of Express?
-Why wasn't the Turtles at ANY Express tryout this year?
-Why don't the Turtles pay tuition to Express anymore?
Do you see a pattern yet? Turtles standing ALONE.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
.
-Why didn't the Turtles play for Express if they are PART of Express?
-Why wasn't the Turtles at ANY Express tryout this year?
-Why don't the Turtles pay tuition to Express anymore?
Do you see a pattern yet? Turtles standing ALONE.
-Why didn't the Turtles play for Express if they are PART of Express?
-Why wasn't the Turtles at ANY Express tryout this year?
-Why don't the Turtles pay tuition to Express anymore?
Do you see a pattern yet? Turtles standing ALONE.
The Turtles NEVER tried out for the express. It is an invite only team. They never play for any express teams in any tournaments but as recently as the last tournament they played in were listed as the EXPRESS Turtles.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was then, this is now. Once MC gave the Express uniform contract to another business Desimone pulled all affiliations with Express.
Go to the Turtles website and you'll see LI Express!
If you went to Denver for u15, you would see around 10-11 Turtles playing for FCA National. The Express team was coached by MC.
-Why didn't the Turtles play for Express if they are PART of Express?
-Why wasn't the Turtles at ANY Express tryout this year?
-Why don't the Turtles pay tuition to Express anymore?
Do you see a pattern yet? Turtles standing ALONE.
Is the next discussion the color of the sky? It doesn't matter who, where or what with the Turtles anymore. The experiment is done. Mission accomplished. Best of luck to the boys in their college careers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was then, this is now. Once MC gave the Express uniform contract to another business Desimone pulled all affiliations with Express.
Go to the Turtles website and you'll see LI Express!
That is due to the fact that Turtles are run by Desimone owner of lacrosse Unlimited. Express may be the single largest client of LU. Symbiotic relationship. Interesting to see if that relationship stays together since Desimone is committed to JH.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
.
-Why didn't the Turtles play for Express if they are PART of Express?
-Why wasn't the Turtles at ANY Express tryout this year?
-Why don't the Turtles pay tuition to Express anymore?
Do you see a pattern yet? Turtles standing ALONE.
-Why didn't the Turtles play for Express if they are PART of Express?
-Why wasn't the Turtles at ANY Express tryout this year?
-Why don't the Turtles pay tuition to Express anymore?
Do you see a pattern yet? Turtles standing ALONE.
The Turtles NEVER tried out for the express. It is an invite only team. They never play for any express teams in any tournaments but as recently as the last tournament they played in were listed as the EXPRESS Turtles.
"Tried out" means the Turtles ALWAYS attended the try out, this year they did not.
Relationship is over.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Relationship is over.
Correct.
Is it true that Express Westchester 2019 team smoked the 2019 LI Express Wolverines Monday 15-5?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that Express Westchester 2019 team smoked the 2019 LI Express Wolverines Monday 15-5?
There is enough bashing from outside the organization, can we just leave express vs express alone and focus on lacrosse.
Please, did u ever see 2 Express Tents together at any tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please, did u ever see 2 Express Tents together at any tournament.
Express has tents ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that Express Westchester 2019 team smoked the 2019 LI Express Wolverines Monday 15-5?
Where? scrimmage?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that Express Westchester 2019 team smoked the 2019 LI Express Wolverines Monday 15-5?
Where? scrimmage?
Shouldn't surprise anyone. That was the express north team from last year. They are very good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that Express Westchester 2019 team smoked the 2019 LI Express Wolverines Monday 15-5?
Where? scrimmage?
Score might be off but differential is roughly correct.
Heard it was a scrimmage on the Island
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that Express Westchester 2019 team smoked the 2019 LI Express Wolverines Monday 15-5?
Where? scrimmage?
Shouldn't surprise anyone. That was the express north team from last year. They are very good.
The Express North was 2018 - this was different team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Relationship is over.
Correct.
If this is true why does Quakerfest tournament have them listed as 2017 Long Island Express Tenacious Turtles?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Relationship is over.
Correct.
If this is true why does Quakerfest tournament have them listed as 2017 Long Island Express Tenacious Turtles?
because NO ONE cares as much as you lunatics!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that Express Westchester 2019 team smoked the 2019 LI Express Wolverines Monday 15-5?
Where? scrimmage?
Score might be off but differential is roughly correct.
Heard it was a scrimmage on the Island
$$$$$$$$$ Who cares, c$$$ sucking organization to the max$$$$$$$$
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Gloat all you want 2018 parents. Our committed 2017 boys are all gone now, either on the Turtles or soon to be playing on the LIE committed team. You are entering freshmen tourney fall season and will be playing all the teams that now have grade hold backs. Let us know how you do by December. Enjoy the ride. It was a fun day to play with great coaches fully involved, and all the players know each other and train hard always. It's all about getting better to showcase our boys, not who won a prep scrimmage. Think big picture.
You are wrong about the timing of holdbacks. Most teams that have them, their kids did it by repeating 8th grade at private before going into HS. It is the preferred method in MD...they cant take 9th grade classes twice without it going on their transcripts. As such, 8th grade is the repeated grade.
But thanks for the warning...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that Express Westchester 2019 team smoked the 2019 LI Express Wolverines Monday 15-5?
Where? scrimmage?
Score might be off but differential is roughly correct.
Heard it was a scrimmage on the Island
Wow, what happened? supposed to be a good team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that Express Westchester 2019 team smoked the 2019 LI Express Wolverines Monday 15-5?
Where? scrimmage?
Score might be off but differential is roughly correct.
Heard it was a scrimmage on the Island
probably need bigger kids.maybe they can talk more parents into leaving their kids back
Express seems more interested in making the almighty dollar instead of fielding their best players.they will keep taking your donations as long as you are willing to give them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express seems more interested in making the almighty dollar instead of fielding their best players.they will keep taking your donations as long as you are willing to give them
McDonald's cares more about the almighty dollar then the national obesity problem, they will continue taking you money and selling you food then limiting calories ..... we get it, Express is about making money....blah, blah blah.....move on
What's with the express teams at HH switching teams between the A and B divisions blatantly?
Yep it is true . Probably they should have stayed on B division and would have won . Instead they switched last minute and the schedule on HH stayed same with no switch . However , MC pulled the switch last minute guessing . Express can't be griping over losing when they wanted to play team 91 for the longest . They obv spoke too soon. And they think they can beat smash . Try again , maybe united they can . United is team 91 B team we all know . And no I am not a 91 parent , but hate all the smack talking express did , and went home shameless . Try again express .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep it is true . Probably they should have stayed on B division and would have won . Instead they switched last minute and the schedule on HH stayed same with no switch . However , MC pulled the switch last minute guessing . Express can't be griping over losing when they wanted to play team 91 for the longest . They obv spoke too soon. And they think they can beat smash . Try again , maybe united they can . United is team 91 B team we all know . And no I am not a 91 parent , but hate all the smack talking express did , and went home shameless . Try again express .
Ok I am a 91 parent and in the 2022 age bracket it goes like this smash is AA, United is A and Stamped is B. That is why Smash is not playing within their age group they always play up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep it is true . Probably they should have stayed on B division and would have won . Instead they switched last minute and the schedule on HH stayed same with no switch . However , MC pulled the switch last minute guessing . Express can't be griping over losing when they wanted to play team 91 for the longest . They obv spoke too soon. And they think they can beat smash . Try again , maybe united they can . United is team 91 B team we all know . And no I am not a 91 parent , but hate all the smack talking express did , and went home shameless . Try again express .
I am an express parent of the team your are discussing, and let me just make you aware, if they 91 didn't have the help with the 11-12 yr old bo( who btw is absolutely great but also plays for a 7th grade team) they never would have won. He made a majority of the goals or assisted goals. And the score difference even with him playing was only 1 point. So get your facts straight and give it a rest pls. Oh and btw my other son plays express 2021 and they beat 91 in the playoff so 91 IS NOT SO UNBEATABLE.
So mr. Express parent, what your saying is your supposedly great 2022 team that you think is the best in the age group, lost to a bunch of 4 th graders and 1 5th grader. Yes he is I'm the same grade as your team. You make like it was close!!!! A 1 goal game against 4th graders!!! Bad loss
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So mr. Express parent, what your saying is your supposedly great 2022 team that you think is the best in the age group, lost to a bunch of 4 th graders and 1 5th grader. Yes he is I'm the same grade as your team. You make like it was close!!!! A 1 goal game against 4th graders!!! Bad loss
This express parent never said we were the best in that age group, I'm just setting uninformed parents like yourself straight with the fact of hh games. That's all, can't stand when parent like you live vicariously through there children.
The bottom line is that MC is a [lacrosse]! He tried pulling a fast one and got BEAT! He yells and screams on the sideline like a blooming idiot! His kids are afraid to make a mistake or God forbid lose. I would NEVER let my kid play for them!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The bottom line is that MC is a [lacrosse]! He tried pulling a fast one and got BEAT! He yells and screams on the sideline like a blooming idiot! His kids are afraid to make a mistake or God forbid lose. I would NEVER let my kid play for them!
Your kid probably wouldn't make the team.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The bottom line is that MC is a [lacrosse]! He tried pulling a fast one and got BEAT! He yells and screams on the sideline like a blooming idiot! His kids are afraid to make a mistake or God forbid lose. I would NEVER let my kid play for them!
Your kid probably wouldn't make the team.....
Without a doubt my kid would not make that team! You know why? Because I would not let my kid tryout for him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The bottom line is that MC is a [lacrosse]! He tried pulling a fast one and got BEAT! He yells and screams on the sideline like a blooming idiot! His kids are afraid to make a mistake or God forbid lose. I would NEVER let my kid play for them!
Your kid probably wouldn't make the team.....
Without a doubt my kid would not make that team! You know why? Because I would not let my kid tryout for him.
I hear Legacy is looking for players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The bottom line is that MC is a [lacrosse]! He tried pulling a fast one and got BEAT! He yells and screams on the sideline like a blooming idiot! His kids are afraid to make a mistake or God forbid lose. I would NEVER let my kid play for them!
Your kid probably wouldn't make the team.....
TOO MANY SHENANIGANS THERE. JUST ANY ANY PLAYER OR PARENT THAT WENT TO THE 2019 "CATTLE CALL" OF A TRY-OUT.
I am not an express guy and my son is still finding his way. I have plenty of time he is young but I will say if I was looking for a coach that will be spending a large amount of time with my son and teaching him about the game and some say life lesson's look no further than MC's back yard. Where is his youngest boy these days ??? Wasn't he at Maryland ? Why did he leave ? Where did the oldest start out Princeton?? Why did he leave Princeton for Maryland ?? Can't say playing time. As for players I guess you can say they turned out as for everything else you need to ask yourself is this the guy I want teaching my kid. When you have that many coming through the program of course some are going to turn out well and he makes sure you hear about those.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am not an express guy and my son is still finding his way. I have plenty of time he is young but I will say if I was looking for a coach that will be spending a large amount of time with my son and teaching him about the game and some say life lesson's look no further than MC's back yard. Where is his youngest boy these days ??? Wasn't he at Maryland ? Why did he leave ? Where did the oldest start out Princeton?? Why did he leave Princeton for Maryland ?? Can't say playing time. As for players I guess you can say they turned out as for everything else you need to ask yourself is this the guy I want teaching my kid. When you have that many coming through the program of course some are going to turn out well and he makes sure you hear about those.
What does that giant run on thought even mean?
I think he is trying to say do you want your kid around MC since his own took a crazy turn one leaving or asked to leave Princeton and the other leaving Maryland for NYIT (I think) Dont understand. Don't know the story
Anyone??
Anyone??
I think the younger one violated a little known NCAA rule that mandates expulsion if you take more than 100 shots in a single game. Ha!
Guys stop discussing families that's wrong. I'm huge fan of express and MC and all of them ..
[quote=Anonymous]Guys stop discussing families that's wrong. I'm huge fan of express and MC and all of them .. [/quote
wow, a fan.You're one in a hundred
wow, a fan.You're one in a hundred
THANK YOU MOM
From MC
From MC
Look at results MORON
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The bottom line is that MC is a [lacrosse]! He tried pulling a fast one and got BEAT! He yells and screams on the sideline like a blooming idiot! His kids are afraid to make a mistake or God forbid lose. I would NEVER let my kid play for them!
Your kid probably wouldn't make the team.....
TOO MANY SHENANIGANS THERE. JUST ANY ANY PLAYER OR PARENT THAT WENT TO THE 2019 "CATTLE CALL" OF A TRY-OUT.
2019 A Team was selected before "CATTLE CALL". Poor kids. Many of the 2019's who showed up for tryouts worked really hard all summer and are terrific players.
Sad, sad, sad.
That is really wrong to bring up the coaches family or any kids for that matter. You have to know there are limits. If you dislike a team or coach, you dont attack the kids or family. Low blow. I actually took my son to some of MC son lax clinic and he is a very nice guy and great with kids. He also was great teaching the boys. This site should not allow some of these posts to be put on the forum.
My son has told us that Jr. is a very good coach. The boys enjoy his company and they are learning from him.
Whatever he did or did not do in this college lax career, I am sure haunts him everyday, especially during the season.
Hind sight is 20/20. Think of all your would have, should have could haves.
Say what you want about Sr., Jr. should not be lumped in with him.
Whatever he did or did not do in this college lax career, I am sure haunts him everyday, especially during the season.
Hind sight is 20/20. Think of all your would have, should have could haves.
Say what you want about Sr., Jr. should not be lumped in with him.
This site is getting out of control with what they are letting be said. I thought the posts were monitored and approved before they go through. And it's not just this thread.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is really wrong to bring up the coaches family or any kids for that matter. You have to know there are limits. If you dislike a team or coach, you dont attack the kids or family. Low blow. I actually took my son to some of MC son lax clinic and he is a very nice guy and great with kids. He also was great teaching the boys. This site should not allow some of these posts to be put on the forum.
ok Stalin
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This site is getting out of control with what they are letting be said. I thought the posts were monitored and approved before they go through. And it's not just this thread.
Totally agree. With cagesage I always felt things were monitored. Larry lets a lot go to increase the posts and responses. Mc's should be off limits as all of our kids should. Not an express dad but I agree, this site has gotten a bit out of control.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The bottom line is that MC is a [lacrosse]! He tried pulling a fast one and got BEAT! He yells and screams on the sideline like a blooming idiot! His kids are afraid to make a mistake or God forbid lose. I would NEVER let my kid play for them!
Your kid probably wouldn't make the team.....
TOO MANY SHENANIGANS THERE. JUST ANY ANY PLAYER OR PARENT THAT WENT TO THE 2019 "CATTLE CALL" OF A TRY-OUT.
2019 A Team was selected before "CATTLE CALL". Poor kids. Many of the 2019's who showed up for tryouts worked really hard all summer and are terrific players.
Sad, sad, sad.
despicable.
If parents only knew, they would never spend even a dollar much less $100.
just about as LOWLY as it gets
Strange how the same organization illicit's the most contempt time and time again. Cant help but notice no other thread has this much hatred. Why? Can anyone help with this?
What is this express tournament on October 26th?
Because the director is such a bad guy. That's why.
Jealousy
Because the director is such a bad guy. That's why.
You have no credibility. I have no idea what your motive is to try and undermine express but it is clearly driven by selfish and self serving intentions. Maybe you are involved with a competing program. You obviously do not have a kid established on one of their teams. My kid has played with Express and for MC for many years. He is a great coach, a great teacher, a great motivator, and he helps the kids beyond lax. What is rare is he calls it like it is and gives valuable honest feedback that gives your kid a chance to reach his potential.
You have no credibility. I have no idea what your motive is to try and undermine express but it is clearly driven by selfish and self serving intentions. Maybe you are involved with a competing program. You obviously do not have a kid established on one of their teams. My kid has played with Express and for MC for many years. He is a great coach, a great teacher, a great motivator, and he helps the kids beyond lax. What is rare is he calls it like it is and gives valuable honest feedback that gives your kid a chance to reach his potential.
The director is not a bad guy.
He is an astute evaluator of young talent and is not afraid to tell you or your son where he stands in that regard.
MC is probably the most honest to a fault coach a young player will have the opportunity to play under.
It is not his fault that so many kids want to play for him. He will form the best teams possible. Will try to accommodate as needs be. Will move kids as Indicated based on current performance and not with regard to the fact that you paid for team x and ended up on team y.
It is a dose of reality and a good preparation for the reality of the hoped for recruiting process to come for many.
Take it as a priveledge the he dotes on and will berate upon those as warranted.
He is not screaming on the sidelines because he does not care. He will bring your player to battle and if not prepared will replace him as needed.
Is this not true of any CEO in any modern coporation?
If you don't like the formula...don't sign on for the reality to come. Not every kid is bound for D1. Or 2 or 3.
Enjoy the game but be realistic in your goals. He will not blow smoke up your *ss
He is an astute evaluator of young talent and is not afraid to tell you or your son where he stands in that regard.
MC is probably the most honest to a fault coach a young player will have the opportunity to play under.
It is not his fault that so many kids want to play for him. He will form the best teams possible. Will try to accommodate as needs be. Will move kids as Indicated based on current performance and not with regard to the fact that you paid for team x and ended up on team y.
It is a dose of reality and a good preparation for the reality of the hoped for recruiting process to come for many.
Take it as a priveledge the he dotes on and will berate upon those as warranted.
He is not screaming on the sidelines because he does not care. He will bring your player to battle and if not prepared will replace him as needed.
Is this not true of any CEO in any modern coporation?
If you don't like the formula...don't sign on for the reality to come. Not every kid is bound for D1. Or 2 or 3.
Enjoy the game but be realistic in your goals. He will not blow smoke up your *ss
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Strange how the same organization illicit's the most contempt time and time again. Cant help but notice no other thread has this much hatred. Why? Can anyone help with this?
Great question/ observation. Hundreds of detractors can't be wrong.
Strange how the same organization illicit's the most contempt time and time again. Cant help but notice no other thread has this much hatred. Why? Can anyone help with this? [/quote]
Great question/ observation. Hundreds of detractors can't be wrong.
If you analyze the critics one thing becomes clear. The people criticizing do not have kids playing for express or MC. This leads to the obvious conclusion that their criticism is driven by envy and jealousy or a desire to bad mouth an elite program to advance their own personal interests. Sad.
Great question/ observation. Hundreds of detractors can't be wrong.
If you analyze the critics one thing becomes clear. The people criticizing do not have kids playing for express or MC. This leads to the obvious conclusion that their criticism is driven by envy and jealousy or a desire to bad mouth an elite program to advance their own personal interests. Sad.
Well said
You couldn't be more wrong .To put it nicely MC is not a nice person he's a vindictive ,greedy , sc$$ b$$........Keep kissing his [lacrosse] and shelling out money. When the money stops flowing into his pocket hes done with you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Strange how the same organization illicit's the most contempt time and time again. Cant help but notice no other thread has this much hatred. Why? Can anyone help with this?
No other thread?! All the threads in this forum have turned to sarcasm, contempt and hatred.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You couldn't be more wrong .To put it nicely MC is not a nice person he's a vindictive ,greedy , sc$$ b$$........Keep kissing his [lacrosse] and shelling out money. When the money stops flowing into his pocket hes done with you.
Tough to play for? Yes. Wants to win, he'll admit to that. However, I can tell you this much, my son would not have been recruited if not for what he learned from him! That is the truth... Knows the game better than just about anyone out there, and knows exactly what the college coaches are looking for. Good luck to your son.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Strange how the same organization illicit's the most contempt time and time again. Cant help but notice no other thread has this much hatred. Why? Can anyone help with this?
Most of the people with contempt are pissed because their kid didn't make the team. Let's face it, when an irrational person thinks their kid got the shaft, they continue to cry about it forever...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Strange how the same organization illicit's the most contempt time and time again. Cant help but notice no other thread has this much hatred. Why? Can anyone help with this?
Great question/ observation. Hundreds of detractors can't be wrong.
Hundreds? It is the same psychos posting over and over. Go away you sad little people. find a team that you can be proud of and happy about
In the words of my Uncle Ben "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility".
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The director is not a bad guy.
He is an astute evaluator of young talent and is not afraid to tell you or your son where he stands in that regard.
MC is probably the most honest to a fault coach a young player will have the opportunity to play under.
It is not his fault that so many kids want to play for him. He will form the best teams possible. Will try to accommodate as needs be. Will move kids as Indicated based on current performance and not with regard to the fact that you paid for team x and ended up on team y.
It is a dose of reality and a good preparation for the reality of the hoped for recruiting process to come for many.
Take it as a priveledge the he dotes on and will berate upon those as warranted.
He is not screaming on the sidelines because he does not care. He will bring your player to battle and if not prepared will replace him as needed.
Is this not true of any CEO in any modern coporation?
If you don't like the formula...don't sign on for the reality to come. Not every kid is bound for D1. Or 2 or 3.
Enjoy the game but be realistic in your goals. He will not blow smoke up your *ss
He is an astute evaluator of young talent and is not afraid to tell you or your son where he stands in that regard.
MC is probably the most honest to a fault coach a young player will have the opportunity to play under.
It is not his fault that so many kids want to play for him. He will form the best teams possible. Will try to accommodate as needs be. Will move kids as Indicated based on current performance and not with regard to the fact that you paid for team x and ended up on team y.
It is a dose of reality and a good preparation for the reality of the hoped for recruiting process to come for many.
Take it as a priveledge the he dotes on and will berate upon those as warranted.
He is not screaming on the sidelines because he does not care. He will bring your player to battle and if not prepared will replace him as needed.
Is this not true of any CEO in any modern coporation?
If you don't like the formula...don't sign on for the reality to come. Not every kid is bound for D1. Or 2 or 3.
Enjoy the game but be realistic in your goals. He will not blow smoke up your *ss
"He will form the best team possible". What a laugh!
NOT TRUE AT ALL. Ask anyone who has been involved with him
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The director is not a bad guy.
He is an astute evaluator of young talent and is not afraid to tell you or your son where he stands in that regard.
MC is probably the most honest to a fault coach a young player will have the opportunity to play under.
It is not his fault that so many kids want to play for him. He will form the best teams possible. Will try to accommodate as needs be. Will move kids as Indicated based on current performance and not with regard to the fact that you paid for team x and ended up on team y.
It is a dose of reality and a good preparation for the reality of the hoped for recruiting process to come for many.
Take it as a priveledge the he dotes on and will berate upon those as warranted.
He is not screaming on the sidelines because he does not care. He will bring your player to battle and if not prepared will replace him as needed.
Is this not true of any CEO in any modern coporation?
If you don't like the formula...don't sign on for the reality to come. Not every kid is bound for D1. Or 2 or 3.
Enjoy the game but be realistic in your goals. He will not blow smoke up your *ss
He is an astute evaluator of young talent and is not afraid to tell you or your son where he stands in that regard.
MC is probably the most honest to a fault coach a young player will have the opportunity to play under.
It is not his fault that so many kids want to play for him. He will form the best teams possible. Will try to accommodate as needs be. Will move kids as Indicated based on current performance and not with regard to the fact that you paid for team x and ended up on team y.
It is a dose of reality and a good preparation for the reality of the hoped for recruiting process to come for many.
Take it as a priveledge the he dotes on and will berate upon those as warranted.
He is not screaming on the sidelines because he does not care. He will bring your player to battle and if not prepared will replace him as needed.
Is this not true of any CEO in any modern coporation?
If you don't like the formula...don't sign on for the reality to come. Not every kid is bound for D1. Or 2 or 3.
Enjoy the game but be realistic in your goals. He will not blow smoke up your *ss
"most honest to a fault".You should stop eating mushrooms
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The director is not a bad guy.
He is an astute evaluator of young talent and is not afraid to tell you or your son where he stands in that regard.
MC is probably the most honest to a fault coach a young player will have the opportunity to play under.
It is not his fault that so many kids want to play for him. He will form the best teams possible. Will try to accommodate as needs be. Will move kids as Indicated based on current performance and not with regard to the fact that you paid for team x and ended up on team y.
It is a dose of reality and a good preparation for the reality of the hoped for recruiting process to come for many.
Take it as a priveledge the he dotes on and will berate upon those as warranted.
He is not screaming on the sidelines because he does not care. He will bring your player to battle and if not prepared will replace him as needed.
Is this not true of any CEO in any modern coporation?
If you don't like the formula...don't sign on for the reality to come. Not every kid is bound for D1. Or 2 or 3.
Enjoy the game but be realistic in your goals. He will not blow smoke up your *ss
He is an astute evaluator of young talent and is not afraid to tell you or your son where he stands in that regard.
MC is probably the most honest to a fault coach a young player will have the opportunity to play under.
It is not his fault that so many kids want to play for him. He will form the best teams possible. Will try to accommodate as needs be. Will move kids as Indicated based on current performance and not with regard to the fact that you paid for team x and ended up on team y.
It is a dose of reality and a good preparation for the reality of the hoped for recruiting process to come for many.
Take it as a priveledge the he dotes on and will berate upon those as warranted.
He is not screaming on the sidelines because he does not care. He will bring your player to battle and if not prepared will replace him as needed.
Is this not true of any CEO in any modern coporation?
If you don't like the formula...don't sign on for the reality to come. Not every kid is bound for D1. Or 2 or 3.
Enjoy the game but be realistic in your goals. He will not blow smoke up your *ss
"He will form the best team possible". What a laugh!
NOT TRUE AT ALL. Ask anyone who has been involved with him
Look at what he did with his 2016 Barracuda team, a true AA team that was abandoned
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The director is not a bad guy.
He is an astute evaluator of young talent and is not afraid to tell you or your son where he stands in that regard.
MC is probably the most honest to a fault coach a young player will have the opportunity to play under.
It is not his fault that so many kids want to play for him. He will form the best teams possible. Will try to accommodate as needs be. Will move kids as Indicated based on current performance and not with regard to the fact that you paid for team x and ended up on team y.
It is a dose of reality and a good preparation for the reality of the hoped for recruiting process to come for many.
Take it as a priveledge the he dotes on and will berate upon those as warranted.
He is not screaming on the sidelines because he does not care. He will bring your player to battle and if not prepared will replace him as needed.
Is this not true of any CEO in any modern coporation?
If you don't like the formula...don't sign on for the reality to come. Not every kid is bound for D1. Or 2 or 3.
Enjoy the game but be realistic in your goals. He will not blow smoke up your *ss
He is an astute evaluator of young talent and is not afraid to tell you or your son where he stands in that regard.
MC is probably the most honest to a fault coach a young player will have the opportunity to play under.
It is not his fault that so many kids want to play for him. He will form the best teams possible. Will try to accommodate as needs be. Will move kids as Indicated based on current performance and not with regard to the fact that you paid for team x and ended up on team y.
It is a dose of reality and a good preparation for the reality of the hoped for recruiting process to come for many.
Take it as a priveledge the he dotes on and will berate upon those as warranted.
He is not screaming on the sidelines because he does not care. He will bring your player to battle and if not prepared will replace him as needed.
Is this not true of any CEO in any modern coporation?
If you don't like the formula...don't sign on for the reality to come. Not every kid is bound for D1. Or 2 or 3.
Enjoy the game but be realistic in your goals. He will not blow smoke up your *ss
"most honest to a fault".You should stop eating mushrooms
Great guy? Watch what happens when your kid gets hurt. See how fast he finds your kid a new spot on the B team.
It's obvious this site is not monitored. These posts are sad. Concentrate on making your kids honorable men. There is no honor hiding behind an annonymous post. Save the foul remarks. It's petty. Our kids go through this every day on social media. It's no wonder.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's obvious this site is not monitored. These posts are sad. Concentrate on making your kids honorable men. There is no honor hiding behind an annonymous post. Save the foul remarks. It's petty. Our kids go through this every day on social media. It's no wonder.
ya, he s such a nice guy and so honorable.he gives everyone a fair and equal shot .
welcome to the real world biatches!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
welcome to the real world biatches!
How old are you ? The sad part is this is probably a 40 yr. old parent.
i like mike
no one else does
Mike has made my son a better player, Mike has made a lot of my sons teammates better players. Mike has put my son in great opportunities to showcase his talent for college coaches. Mike and his partners have made good money off my son and Mike and his partners have earned that money.
I like Mike
I like Mike
how are the express terps 2017 (team 2) looking?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how are the express terps 2017 (team 2) looking?
All of the Express 2017 teams are weak. It's probably the programs worst grade.
Get Mike's thing out of your mouth.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Get Mike's thing out of your mouth.
so it is OK to take shots at him all day long but if you appreciate what he has done for your kid you are a c%&k S&*ker? very nice.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how are the express terps 2017 (team 2) looking?
Is their a 2017 team 3?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Get Mike's thing out of your mouth.
Gotta be difficult to type like that.
How did the 2021 Yellow Jacket Crossfire team do against M and D black? and the other teams.
Who is the coach of the 2017 Express team 1?
You wouldn't know honor if it hit you in the face. I'm sorry you got burned by him but it sounds warranted.
How bad did you get burned?
Get over it guys
If your kid wasn't up to snuff and others were; it's not his fault. Tell your kid to try harder but stop bashing a guy who has had much success with developing many kids who have gone on to the next level
It's always someone else's fault when our own fail to achieve these days. Own up to the fact that your kid is either not athletic enough,smart enough or too lazy to put in the extra time and effort to rise to the top. Just because you paid your tuition means nothing.
There are no guarantees in life; so the sooner you teach that to your kid, the sooner he will realize he needs to work harder or take up a different sport.
You don't like the express program? Don't sign up.
But stop with the unreal expectations. Let the kid go and have fun. If it's not; then there are other programs and sports to try.
You want win win all the time? Then join little league soccer and your kid will never lose and no score is kept and little Johnny can feel like a winner.
If your kid wasn't up to snuff and others were; it's not his fault. Tell your kid to try harder but stop bashing a guy who has had much success with developing many kids who have gone on to the next level
It's always someone else's fault when our own fail to achieve these days. Own up to the fact that your kid is either not athletic enough,smart enough or too lazy to put in the extra time and effort to rise to the top. Just because you paid your tuition means nothing.
There are no guarantees in life; so the sooner you teach that to your kid, the sooner he will realize he needs to work harder or take up a different sport.
You don't like the express program? Don't sign up.
But stop with the unreal expectations. Let the kid go and have fun. If it's not; then there are other programs and sports to try.
You want win win all the time? Then join little league soccer and your kid will never lose and no score is kept and little Johnny can feel like a winner.
Do really think all kids on express go D1?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Get over it guys
If your kid wasn't up to snuff and others were; it's not his fault. Tell your kid to try harder but stop bashing a guy who has had much success with developing many kids who have gone on to the next level
It's always someone else's fault when our own fail to achieve these days. Own up to the fact that your kid is either not athletic enough,smart enough or too lazy to put in the extra time and effort to rise to the top. Just because you paid your tuition means nothing.
There are no guarantees in life; so the sooner you teach that to your kid, the sooner he will realize he needs to work harder or take up a different sport.
You don't like the express program? Don't sign up.
But stop with the unreal expectations. Let the kid go and have fun. If it's not; then there are other programs and sports to try.
You want win win all the time? Then join little league soccer and your kid will never lose and no score is kept and little Johnny can feel like a winner.
If your kid wasn't up to snuff and others were; it's not his fault. Tell your kid to try harder but stop bashing a guy who has had much success with developing many kids who have gone on to the next level
It's always someone else's fault when our own fail to achieve these days. Own up to the fact that your kid is either not athletic enough,smart enough or too lazy to put in the extra time and effort to rise to the top. Just because you paid your tuition means nothing.
There are no guarantees in life; so the sooner you teach that to your kid, the sooner he will realize he needs to work harder or take up a different sport.
You don't like the express program? Don't sign up.
But stop with the unreal expectations. Let the kid go and have fun. If it's not; then there are other programs and sports to try.
You want win win all the time? Then join little league soccer and your kid will never lose and no score is kept and little Johnny can feel like a winner.
Hey, if it worked for you, great.you believe all he has to say. you probably also believe in the tooth fairy
i like mike
He's done great things...just ask himn
there is no organization that has 100 percent D1 success. is that a rhetorical question?
who better to know
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i like mike
I like my dads colostomy bag , when its not full
not true
that truly has to be the dumbest thing you've said so far but I'm sure more is coming
Does Mike actually coach your child on an express team?
quote=Anonymous]Mike has made my son a better player, Mike has made a lot of my sons teammates better players. Mike has put my son in great opportunities to showcase his talent for college coaches. Mike and his partners have made good money off my son and Mike and his partners have earned that money.
I like Mike [/quote]
quote=Anonymous]Mike has made my son a better player, Mike has made a lot of my sons teammates better players. Mike has put my son in great opportunities to showcase his talent for college coaches. Mike and his partners have made good money off my son and Mike and his partners have earned that money.
I like Mike [/quote]
is your son committed yet? what school did they call for your son, is he on a team with 30 other kids?
What's up with the lawsuit between Mike and his partner that he's been stealing from ???????? Great guy that Channy ! How's his millionaire kid on 2019 who couldn't make a "C" team anywhere else ! It's all about the money $$$$$$$$
Clearly you don't like express or Mike C. We get it. Good luck to you and your son.
Leave the rest of us that do like express and Mike C alone and go find another team to be on. there are a dozen out there now and you have your pick.
signed--
happy LIE parent for 4 years.
Leave the rest of us that do like express and Mike C alone and go find another team to be on. there are a dozen out there now and you have your pick.
signed--
happy LIE parent for 4 years.
I was right, not committed,
[quote=Anonymous]What's up with the lawsuit between Mike and his partner that he's been stealing from ???????? Great guy that Channy ! How's his millionaire kid on 2019 who couldn't make a "C" team anywhere else ! It's all about the money $$$$$$$$ [/quote
Please explain
Please explain
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does Mike actually coach your child on an express team?
quote=Anonymous]Mike has made my son a better player, Mike has made a lot of my sons teammates better players. Mike has put my son in great opportunities to showcase his talent for college coaches. Mike and his partners have made good money off my son and Mike and his partners have earned that money.
I like Mike
quote=Anonymous]Mike has made my son a better player, Mike has made a lot of my sons teammates better players. Mike has put my son in great opportunities to showcase his talent for college coaches. Mike and his partners have made good money off my son and Mike and his partners have earned that money.
I like Mike
yes - 2018 Terps
Originally Posted by Anonymous
is your son committed yet? what school did they call for your son, is he on a team with 30 other kids?
I assume you are asking me, i like mike -
is your son committed yet? No, he will not seriously talk to schools until he has one year of grades, this is our decision.
what school did they call for your son? over 10, invites to many prospect days as well as the three major individual showcases
is he on a team with 30 other kids? No, I think 26 other kids.
I don't think Express is for everybody but we are very happy
JUST POINTING OUT THAT 23-26 KIDS IS A GREAT NUMBER FOR A TRAVEL LACROSSE TEAM.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JUST POINTING OUT THAT 23-26 KIDS IS A GREAT NUMBER FOR A TRAVEL LACROSSE TEAM.
175LBS IS A GREAT NUMBER FOR A SIX FOOT PERSON
38D IS A GREAT NUMBER FOR BREAST SIZE
2350 IS A GREAT NUMBER FOR COMBINED SAT SCORES
12 IS A GREAT NUMBER FOR A QUARTERBACK
ANY OTHER OBSERVATIONS JOHNNY OBVIOUS?
Woaaahhhh
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JUST POINTING OUT THAT 23-26 KIDS IS A GREAT NUMBER FOR A TRAVEL LACROSSE TEAM.
175LBS IS A GREAT NUMBER FOR A SIX FOOT PERSON
38D IS A GREAT NUMBER FOR BREAST SIZE
2350 IS A GREAT NUMBER FOR COMBINED SAT SCORES
12 IS A GREAT NUMBER FOR A QUARTERBACK
175????- A little thin
38D.....Oh yea baby
2350-Well done
12-Subtract 10 and you have the old Johnny Football
ANY OTHER OBSERVATIONS JOHNNY OBVIOUS?
wow 38D's huh...
your a jerk
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow 38D's huh...
I let that post go up because it further illustrates what assholes some men can be. The only issue we men should care about when it it comes to ta-tas is that they are healthy and free from any medical issue...and not their size.
I would suggest that the original poster of this moronic post worry about the size of his pathetic bald-headed mouse instead.
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow 38D's huh...
I let that post go up because it further illustrates what assholes some men can be. The only issue we men should care about when it it comes to ta-tas is that they are healthy and free from any medical issue...and not their size.
I would suggest that the original poster of this moronic post worry about the size of his pathetic bald-headed mouse instead.
Thank you!!! I am a breast cancer survivor!!! Also a mom to an express 'A' team goalie...
I'm glad all men still aren't from the cave days!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow 38D's huh...
I let that post go up because it further illustrates what assholes some men can be. The only issue we men should care about when it it comes to ta-tas is that they are healthy and free from any medical issue...and not their size.
I would suggest that the original poster of this moronic post worry about the size of his pathetic bald-headed mouse instead.
Thank you!!! I am a breast cancer survivor!!! Also a mom to an express 'A' team goalie...
I'm glad all men still aren't from the cave days!
Wow, express "A" team.Golly
Big money guy bought his son a spot on the team. Basically will never be cut even though his talent level is not there,
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow 38D's huh...
I let that post go up because it further illustrates what assholes some men can be. The only issue we men should care about when it it comes to ta-tas is that they are healthy and free from any medical issue...and not their size.
I would suggest that the original poster of this moronic post worry about the size of his pathetic bald-headed mouse instead.
Thank you!!! I am a breast cancer survivor!!! Also a mom to an express 'A' team goalie...
I'm glad all men still aren't from the cave days!
Wow, express "A" team.Golly
She makes an excellent point.....and while your response is snarky I also don't totally disagree with the substance of it. Just wish parents would stop feeling the need to constantly point out that their kid isn't just on Express but on the Express "A" team. I guess it just feels good for them to write that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, express "A" team.Golly
My thoughts exactly.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, express "A" team.Golly
My thoughts exactly.
Well if I didn't write 'a' team I'm sure I would've had a response something like he must be on the b or c team. Unbelievable your damned if u do and damned if you don't... I guess that's why I skip this site usually.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Big money guy bought his son a spot on the team. Basically will never be cut even though his talent level is not there,
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Big money guy bought his son a spot on the team. Basically will never be cut even though his talent level is not there,
he's actually a very nice kid and He improved quite a bit. BUT , anyone who thinks that EVERYONE gets picked for the best team based on T H E I R ABILITY, would be very wrong. scams are a part of life.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Big money guy bought his son a spot on the team. Basically will never be cut even though his talent level is not there,
he's actually a very nice kid and He improved quite a bit. BUT , anyone who thinks that EVERYONE gets picked for the best team based on T H E I R ABILITY, would be very wrong. scams are a part of life.
Sad that many unwitting parents will make the same mistake at the try out next year.And the year after that..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Big money guy bought his son a spot on the team. Basically will never be cut even though his talent level is not there,
he's actually a very nice kid and He improved quite a bit. BUT , anyone who thinks that EVERYONE gets picked for the best team based on T H E I R ABILITY, would be very wrong. scams are a part of life.
Sad that many unwitting parents will make the same mistake at the try out next year.And the year after that..
How much to try out, 100$?
My point exactly. I didnt say anything about the boy other than he is there because of his dad's influence. So I agree with you he is a scam....talent wise.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My point exactly. I didnt say anything about the boy other than he is there because of his dad's influence. So I agree with you he is a scam....talent wise.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My point exactly. I didnt say anything about the boy other than he is there because of his dad's influence. So I agree
with you he is a scam....talent wise.
with you he is a scam....talent wise.
Mike C put the kid on the MS Empire Cup Team and the kid stunk up the field but still got a write up because his father gave Mike C big bucks . IMHO that constitutes scam or fraud or whatever derogatory label that Mike C deserves . My sympathy goes out to you 2019 parents and kids of that Express "A" team.
My son's team played the Express yesterday at Hofstra. The Express team was the only team I noticed all day that had 3 goalies. I pay attention to that position since it's the one that my son plays. Is this normal for LIE teams to carry more than 2 goalies?
There was a Pequa and F'dale helmet that were very strong and a St. Anthony's helmet that was very weak in my observation from that 1 game.
There was a Pequa and F'dale helmet that were very strong and a St. Anthony's helmet that was very weak in my observation from that 1 game.
There were only supposed to be 2 goalies. One goalie on the team did not confirm that he was going to be there, and just showed up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son's team played the Express yesterday at Hofstra. The Express team was the only team I noticed all day that had 3 goalies. I pay attention to that position since it's the one that my son plays. Is this normal for LIE teams to carry more than 2 goalies?
There was a Pequa and F'dale helmet that were very strong and a St. Anthony's helmet that was very weak in my observation from that 1 game.
There was a Pequa and F'dale helmet that were very strong and a St. Anthony's helmet that was very weak in my observation from that 1 game.
What year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were only supposed to be 2 goalies. One goalie on the team did not confirm that he was going to be there, and just showed up.
So there are 3 goalies but 1 wasn't supposed to be at that event but showed up? Still 3 goalies on the team which is to many.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son's team played the Express yesterday at Hofstra. The Express team was the only team I noticed all day that had 3 goalies. I pay attention to that position since it's the one that my son plays. Is this normal for LIE teams to carry more than 2 goalies?
There was a Pequa and F'dale helmet that were very strong and a St. Anthony's helmet that was very weak in my observation from that 1 game.
There was a Pequa and F'dale helmet that were very strong and a St. Anthony's helmet that was very weak in my observation from that 1 game.
What year?
It was the Varsity tournament. I don't know what year the LIE team was the schedule didn't say. My son's team that played them is 2016.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My point exactly. I didnt say anything about the boy other than he is there because of his dad's influence. So I agree
with you he is a scam....talent wise.
with you he is a scam....talent wise.
Mike C put the kid on the MS Empire Cup Team and the kid stunk up the field but still got a write up because his father gave Mike C big bucks . IMHO that constitutes scam or fraud or whatever derogatory label that Mike C deserves . My sympathy goes out to you 2019 parents and kids of that Express "A" team.
shocking
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were only supposed to be 2 goalies. One goalie on the team did not confirm that he was going to be there, and just showed up.
Three Goalies on 2018 Team 2. Probably 3 very unhappy players and parents...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were only supposed to be 2 goalies. One goalie on the team did not confirm that he was going to be there, and just showed up.
Three Goalies on 2018 Team 2. Probably 3 very unhappy players and parents...
So that's at least 2 LIE teams that carry more than 2 goalies. Surprised the parents accept this.
Just curious, Express colors now Black and Orange?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My point exactly. I didnt say anything about the boy other than he is there because of his dad's influence. So I agree
with you he is a scam....talent wise.
with you he is a scam....talent wise.
Mike C put the kid on the MS Empire Cup Team and the kid stunk up the field but still got a write up because his father gave Mike C big bucks . IMHO that constitutes scam or fraud or whatever derogatory label that Mike C deserves . My sympathy goes out to you 2019 parents and kids of that Express "A" team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My point exactly. I didnt say anything about the boy other than he is there because of his dad's influence. So I agree
with you he is a scam....talent wise.
with you he is a scam....talent wise.
Mike C put the kid on the MS Empire Cup Team and the kid stunk up the field but still got a write up because his father gave Mike C big bucks . IMHO that constitutes scam or fraud or whatever derogatory label that Mike C deserves . My sympathy goes out to you 2019 parents and kids of that Express "A" team.
Boy, some people sure do get Nasty when the "E" name comes up.
hmmm,,,,,,maybe something to it. change the name or something. Perhaps, the L I Depressed
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just curious, Express colors now Black and Orange?
Since Orange is the new Black, Shouldn't it be Black & Black?
Is there still an Express NYC 2020 team.?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there still an Express NYC 2020 team.?
No. They bounced and are now nyc lax.
Has to be more to that story, from what I understood they were happy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My point exactly. I didnt say anything about the boy other than he is there because of his dad's influence. So I agree
with you he is a scam....talent wise.
with you he is a scam....talent wise.
soon. scam is not the right word. better opportunity than some but isn't it always the way. stay the course. if your kid is good he will be noticed regardless of the trust fund kid standing next to him.
Mike C put the kid on the MS Empire Cup Team and the kid stunk up the field but still got a write up because his father gave Mike C big bucks . IMHO that constitutes scam or fraud or whatever derogatory label that Mike C deserves . My sympathy goes out to you 2019 parents and kids of that Express "A" team.
Boy, some people sure do get Nasty when the "E" name comes up.
hmmm,,,,,,maybe something to it. change the name or something. Perhaps, the L I Depressed
Its even better when Mike c has got these parents running all up and down the east coast at who's expense.I really bad for the kids...Parents wake up it's all about your kids grades not Mike c
Mike C is laughing all the way to bank....Wake Up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mike C is laughing all the way to bank....Wake Up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mike C is laughing all the way to bank....Wake Up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mike C is laughing all the way to bank....Wake Up.
No it is not about the grades... Just a lie!
I like mike
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mike C is laughing all the way to bank....Wake Up.
No it is not about the grades... Just a lie!
He is just a scam!!Especially when he holds it against your kid for not continue with his additional training..#$
You're a scam.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He is just a scam!!Especially when he holds it against your kid for not continue with his additional training..#$
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He is just a scam!!Especially when he holds it against your kid for not continue with his additional training..#$
he never screws anybody over. he s so FAIR.he would never put $$$$$ or FAVORITISM over a better player. not too lowly, not too scummy . he s just being him self
Apparently your blinders are on
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Apparently your blinders are on
I see Express 2022 is doing Blatant, question is which team is there A team and which is the other? I think MC does this on purpose so he can switch teams around to try to dominate a tournament. Just like he tried at the Havoc!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there still an Express NYC 2020 team.?
No. They bounced and are now nyc lax.
I see Express now has a Express North 2020 team...Where are they based out of?
Northern Westchester - practice in Bedford and at times Kennedy Catholic High
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
need to know one thing why is channy so involved in the 2022 team. Is that the team?
Express 2020 Team 2 went 0-3.
Lost to the Outlaws, a town team and the Legacy B team.
When is the next payment due?
Lost to the Outlaws, a town team and the Legacy B team.
When is the next payment due?
Express north 20 won tourney , express north 21 won tourney
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express north 20 won tourney , express north 21 won tourney
Express 2020 North won the B bracket.
who won A for 2020
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
No wonder that Channy's son is not using the Express name to promote his training business. But he is using the Express email lists.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
No wonder that Channy's son is not using the Express name to promote his training business. But he is using the Express email lists.
How far does the shadow of the sins of the father reach?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. No issue with the business. Just the flat out lying to one's face that has so many rooting against this guy and is cronies that are no better. If you've been a customer of his for long enough you've probably been there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
Really? Link?
Hey Mr .Chanachuck.. How is it ok for express to have legitimate 6th graders on a 5th grade team? I saw the coaches arguing and then tournament staff came over and did an age verification on one of the NYC express kid..we were also told there was a 6th grader from Floral park (who was very good) playing midi on Express 2022-2
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. No issue with the business. Just the flat out lying to one's face that has so many rooting against this guy and is cronies that are no better. If you've been a customer of his for long enough you've probably been there.
It is a law suit by one partner against four others. Not exactly earth shattering news and I am certain no one is worried, i wouldn't be if i were them...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
No wonder that Channy's son is not using the Express name to promote his training business. But he is using the Express email lists.
How far does the shadow of the sins of the father reach?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
No wonder that Channy's son is not using the Express name to promote his training business. But he is using the Express email lists.
Channy's son is not an Express owner, therefore he can't use the name. I think his merits stand for themselves.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Mr .Chanachuck.. How is it ok for express to have legitimate 6th graders on a 5th grade team? I saw the coaches arguing and then tournament staff came over and did an age verification on one of the NYC express kid..we were also told there was a 6th grader from Floral park (who was very good) playing midi on Express 2022-2. get your facts straight instead of jumping on the "we were also told" train.
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
No wonder that Channy's son is not using the Express name to promote his training business. But he is using the Express email lists.
How far does the shadow of the sins of the father reach?
Allen was denied an injunction, which is to be expected. This is about partners trying to get rid of a partner and that partner questioning expenses which diminished his share of profits. Not exactly earth shattering issues that would effect players.
Fish rots from the head down.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
No wonder that Channy's son is not using the Express name to promote his training business. But he is using the Express email lists.
How far does the shadow of the sins of the father reach?
Allen was denied an injunction, which is to be expected. This is about partners trying to get rid of a partner and that partner questioning expenses which diminished his share of profits. Not exactly earth shattering issues that would effect players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fish rots from the head down.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Mr .Chanachuck.. How is it ok for express to have legitimate 6th graders on a 5th grade team? I saw the coaches arguing and then tournament staff came over and did an age verification on one of the NYC express kid..we were also told there was a 6th grader from Floral park (who was very good) playing midi on Express 2022-2
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
I laugh at the "Kids get hurt" BS about kids playing up or down, a few 8th graders play JV and varsity and many 9th graders play varsity, that's 14 and 15 year old kids playing against 17 and 18 year old men yet I have never once heard of a 9th grade parent saying "no thank you, I don't want my son playing varsity because me might get hurt" everyone of us will and do jump at the opportunity.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
No wonder that Channy's son is not using the Express name to promote his training business. But he is using the Express email lists.
Channy's son is not an Express owner, therefore he can't use the name. I think his merits stand for themselves.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
No wonder that Channy's son is not using the Express name to promote his training business. But he is using the Express email lists.
How far does the shadow of the sins of the father reach?
Allen was denied an injunction, which is to be expected. This is about partners trying to get rid of a partner and that partner questioning expenses which diminished his share of profits. Not exactly earth shattering issues that would effect players.
I have never heard anyone complain about J A. Not a parent, not a player.one of the nicest people I've ever met.
You have never. Others have.
Whoever posted the lawsuit just opened JA up to criticism. You better stop now if you like him
Did you even read the what this is about, it has nothing to do with the club itself, it has to do with mainly an individual who feels they did not get their fair share of the monies without putting in the equal amount of time. In an Joint Partnership, all parties must provide and perform equal amount of time, effort and energy to claim equal partnership.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you even read the what this is about, it has nothing to do with the club itself, it has to do with mainly an individual who feels they did not get their fair share of the monies without putting in the equal amount of time. In an Joint Partnership, all parties must provide and perform equal amount of time, effort and energy to claim equal partnership.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Delicious. Somebody post the details - I hear there's lots of good stuff about profits, take home pay etc. Yummy.
Delicious? Details? You are a washwoman, loser.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you even read the what this is about, it has nothing to do with the club itself, it has to do with mainly an individual who feels they did not get their fair share of the monies without putting in the equal amount of time. In an Joint Partnership, all parties must provide and perform equal amount of time, effort and energy to claim equal partnership.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Delicious. Somebody post the details - I hear there's lots of good stuff about profits, take home pay etc. Yummy.
Is it a anon profit organization?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you even read the what this is about, it has nothing to do with the club itself, it has to do with mainly an individual who feels they did not get their fair share of the monies without putting in the equal amount of time. In an Joint Partnership, all parties must provide and perform equal amount of time, effort and energy to claim equal partnership.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Delicious. Somebody post the details - I hear there's lots of good stuff about profits, take home pay etc. Yummy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Mr .Chanachuck.. How is it ok for express to have legitimate 6th graders on a 5th grade team? I saw the coaches arguing and then tournament staff came over and did an age verification on one of the NYC express kid..we were also told there was a 6th grader from Floral park (who was very good) playing midi on Express 2022-2
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
I laugh at the "Kids get hurt" BS about kids playing up or down, a few 8th graders play JV and varsity and many 9th graders play varsity, that's 14 and 15 year old kids playing against 17 and 18 year old men yet I have never once heard of a 9th grade parent saying "no thank you, I don't want my son playing varsity because me might get hurt" everyone of us will and do jump at the opportunity.
You don't seem to want to get it.....when kids are in high school they are all (except maybe you back in the day) past puberty with almost all fully grown by age 16. That is very different from the middle school years when you have some post-pubescent hold back playing against little boys who haven't started growing. Yes, when in high school you have to play against older kids. However, that does not mean it is "anything goes" for the younger athletes. Some kids hit puberty early and will be mature enough to compete at a varsity level by age 14-15....but most will not. Youth lacrosse should be like youth football...if your parents hold you back you have to play on the team for the grade you should have been in.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you even read the what this is about, it has nothing to do with the club itself, it has to do with mainly an individual who feels they did not get their fair share of the monies without putting in the equal amount of time. In an Joint Partnership, all parties must provide and perform equal amount of time, effort and energy to claim equal partnership.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Delicious. Somebody post the details - I hear there's lots of good stuff about profits, take home pay etc. Yummy.
You sure about that? I heard a lot of details with specific numbers. Juicy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Mr .Chanachuck.. How is it ok for express to have legitimate 6th graders on a 5th grade team? I saw the coaches arguing and then tournament staff came over and did an age verification on one of the NYC express kid..we were also told there was a 6th grader from Floral park (who was very good) playing midi on Express 2022-2
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
I laugh at the "Kids get hurt" BS about kids playing up or down, a few 8th graders play JV and varsity and many 9th graders play varsity, that's 14 and 15 year old kids playing against 17 and 18 year old men yet I have never once heard of a 9th grade parent saying "no thank you, I don't want my son playing varsity because me might get hurt" everyone of us will and do jump at the opportunity.
The difference is that the kid was playing DOWN an age group, your own example has someone playing UP in high school - BIG difference.
How about in youth sports it's just plain cheating. Why else would you do it???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you even read the what this is about, it has nothing to do with the club itself, it has to do with mainly an individual who feels they did not get their fair share of the monies without putting in the equal amount of time. In an Joint Partnership, all parties must provide and perform equal amount of time, effort and energy to claim equal partnership.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Channy and the boys in the November 13 Law Journal.
Big buzz about this lawsuit flying around the sidelines throughout the day at Philly Showcase. Better than housewives of .... The fallout from years of hubris is a [lacrosse]. Express, we hardly knew ya. From respected and admired to laughingstock in no time. bye bye.
Delicious. Somebody post the details - I hear there's lots of good stuff about profits, take home pay etc. Yummy.
T
You sure about that? I heard a lot of details with specific numbers. Juicy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Mr .Chanachuck.. How is it ok for express to have legitimate 6th graders on a 5th grade team? I saw the coaches arguing and then tournament staff came over and did an age verification on one of the NYC express kid..we were also told there was a 6th grader from Floral park (who was very good) playing midi on Express 2022-2
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
I laugh at the "Kids get hurt" BS about kids playing up or down, a few 8th graders play JV and varsity and many 9th graders play varsity, that's 14 and 15 year old kids playing against 17 and 18 year old men yet I have never once heard of a 9th grade parent saying "no thank you, I don't want my son playing varsity because me might get hurt" everyone of us will and do jump at the opportunity.
The difference is that the kid was playing DOWN an age group, your own example has someone playing UP in high school - BIG difference.
Exactly.the guy above you sounds like an idiot.f ' ing dope
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about in youth sports it's just plain cheating. Why else would you do it???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about in youth sports it's just plain cheating. Why else would you do it???
IMHO the only one being cheated is the older kid playing down, he is being cheated out of a day of lacrosse that he could have played against his his own age or even played up against a kid a year older and improved, he is being cheated out of his own self respect and he is being cheated out of being able to respect his parents and his coaches. As far as cheating to win? who cares, club lacrosse up until 8th grade is about getting better and having fun, from 9th grade up it is about getting better, having fun and hopefully getting recruited it is never about winning meaningless tournaments and games that is for the parents and the directors kids don't care.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Mr .Chanachuck.. How is it ok for express to have legitimate 6th graders on a 5th grade team? I saw the coaches arguing and then tournament staff came over and did an age verification on one of the NYC express kid..we were also told there was a 6th grader from Floral park (who was very good) playing midi on Express 2022-2
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
I laugh at the "Kids get hurt" BS about kids playing up or down, a few 8th graders play JV and varsity and many 9th graders play varsity, that's 14 and 15 year old kids playing against 17 and 18 year old men yet I have never once heard of a 9th grade parent saying "no thank you, I don't want my son playing varsity because me might get hurt" everyone of us will and do jump at the opportunity.
The difference is that the kid was playing DOWN an age group, your own example has someone playing UP in high school - BIG difference.
Exactly.the guy above you sounds like an idiot.f ' ing dope
When your son plays up in 9th grade you and he are making that choice to play up with all the risks.
When your son plays down you are making the choice for all the other kids to now play up against your older kid. Get it now? Most parents don't want their kid to play up at the youth level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Mr .Chanachuck.. How is it ok for express to have legitimate 6th graders on a 5th grade team? I saw the coaches arguing and then tournament staff came over and did an age verification on one of the NYC express kid..we were also told there was a 6th grader from Floral park (who was very good) playing midi on Express 2022-2
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
I laugh at the "Kids get hurt" BS about kids playing up or down, a few 8th graders play JV and varsity and many 9th graders play varsity, that's 14 and 15 year old kids playing against 17 and 18 year old men yet I have never once heard of a 9th grade parent saying "no thank you, I don't want my son playing varsity because me might get hurt" everyone of us will and do jump at the opportunity.
The difference is that the kid was playing DOWN an age group, your own example has someone playing UP in high school - BIG difference.
Exactly.the guy above you sounds like an idiot.f ' ing dope
When your son plays up in 9th grade you and he are making that choice to play up with all the risks.
When your son plays down you are making the choice for all the other kids to now play up against your older kid. Get it now? Most parents don't want their kid to play up at the youth level.
I spoke to the parents of the 6th grader. He is thinking about reclassifying before enetering Middle School, so he wanted to see how much better he would be if he played down. He already is on Maryland, Duke, Syracuse, and JFK Middle School's watch list...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Mr .Chanachuck.. How is it ok for express to have legitimate 6th graders on a 5th grade team? I saw the coaches arguing and then tournament staff came over and did an age verification on one of the NYC express kid..we were also told there was a 6th grader from Floral park (who was very good) playing midi on Express 2022-2
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
I laugh at the "Kids get hurt" BS about kids playing up or down, a few 8th graders play JV and varsity and many 9th graders play varsity, that's 14 and 15 year old kids playing against 17 and 18 year old men yet I have never once heard of a 9th grade parent saying "no thank you, I don't want my son playing varsity because me might get hurt" everyone of us will and do jump at the opportunity.
The difference is that the kid was playing DOWN an age group, your own example has someone playing UP in high school - BIG difference.
Exactly.the guy above you sounds like an idiot.f ' ing dope
When your son plays up in 9th grade you and he are making that choice to play up with all the risks.
When your son plays down you are making the choice for all the other kids to now play up against your older kid. Get it now? Most parents don't want their kid to play up at the youth level.
I spoke to the parents of the 6th grader. He is thinking about reclassifying before enetering Middle School, so he wanted to see how much better he would be if he played down. He already is on Maryland, Duke, Syracuse, and JFK Middle School's watch list...
Kid sounds like he's talented but his parents should shut up!! Do they want their kid to be hated before he he does anything significant??
Doesn't Express haves a 6th grade team? The Floral park kid was good he had 3 assits and a goal.. they scored 4 goals! against TB..why isn't he playing in his own age group? It's not like he couldn't hang???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Mr .Chanachuck.. How is it ok for express to have legitimate 6th graders on a 5th grade team? I saw the coaches arguing and then tournament staff came over and did an age verification on one of the NYC express kid..we were also told there was a 6th grader from Floral park (who was very good) playing midi on Express 2022-2
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
There's no reason for it ...other than greed..that how kids get hurt!
I laugh at the "Kids get hurt" BS about kids playing up or down, a few 8th graders play JV and varsity and many 9th graders play varsity, that's 14 and 15 year old kids playing against 17 and 18 year old men yet I have never once heard of a 9th grade parent saying "no thank you, I don't want my son playing varsity because me might get hurt" everyone of us will and do jump at the opportunity.
The difference is that the kid was playing DOWN an age group, your own example has someone playing UP in high school - BIG difference.
Exactly.the guy above you sounds like an idiot.f ' ing dope
When your son plays up in 9th grade you and he are making that choice to play up with all the risks.
When your son plays down you are making the choice for all the other kids to now play up against your older kid. Get it now? Most parents don't want their kid to play up at the youth level.
I spoke to the parents of the 6th grader. He is thinking about reclassifying before enetering Middle School, so he wanted to see how much better he would be if he played down. He already is on Maryland, Duke, Syracuse, and JFK Middle School's watch list...
Good for him! I hope it works out. Then maybe the rest of you can get a life and stop talking trash about a 6th grader! If you think Express is the only organization that cheats at these tournaments, you obviously haven't been around club lacrosse very long.
You obviously do not know sarcasm when you see it..... The guy who said he spoke to the kids parents is an anonymous tool who probably did not speak to anyone!
I spoke to the parents of the 6th grader. He is thinking about reclassifying before enetering Middle School, so he wanted to see how much better he would be if he played down. He already is on Maryland, Duke, Syracuse, and JFK Middle School's watch list...[/quote]
Kid sounds like he's talented but his parents should shut up!! Do they want their kid to be hated before he he does anything significant??[/quote]
How stupid are you? Do you really think the above anonymous, internet troll spoke to the parents or anyone else regarding this situation? Just another person trying to stir the pot!
Is there a Middle School watch list? Is that really true?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there a Middle School watch list? Is that really true?
People can be so naive - the poster was clearly not being serious
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there a Middle School watch list? Is that really true?
Absolutely...in fact i caught Petro at my 2024's game taking notes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about in youth sports it's just plain cheating. Why else would you do it???
Bandits played the entire year last year with a goalie who is a grade older. He is an excellent goalie who kept them in many a games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there a Middle School watch list? Is that really true?
Absolutely...in fact i caught Petro at my 2024's game taking notes.
hahahahha!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there a Middle School watch list? Is that really true?
Absolutely...in fact i caught Petro at my 2024's game taking notes.
LOL... MS watch list BWHAHAHA.
6th graders will be lucky enough to be the MS mangers. Those talented 7th and 8th graders will be playing JV. and are on the HS watch list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about in youth sports it's just plain cheating. Why else would you do it???
Bandits played the entire year last year with a goalie who is a grade older. He is an excellent goalie who kept them in many a games.
Which express teams are playing in the Fall Brawl?
At the end of the day these travel teams can do anything they want and get away with it.. It's a business just like owning a grocery store..Theres people in business that are outstanding citizens and do the right thing and there are unscrupulous dirty individuals that consistently cut corners to get ahead..
what I hope that after seeing all these posts and witnessing Express playing kids down on not one but two teams at the Blatant tournament that tournament directors moniter the situation and make sure that these teams in question are not allowed to play kids down in future tournaments..
what I hope that after seeing all these posts and witnessing Express playing kids down on not one but two teams at the Blatant tournament that tournament directors moniter the situation and make sure that these teams in question are not allowed to play kids down in future tournaments..
express playing in Mayflower
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At the end of the day these travel teams can do anything they want and get away with it.. It's a business just like owning a grocery store..Theres people in business that are outstanding citizens and do the right thing and there are unscrupulous dirty individuals that consistently cut corners to get ahead..
what I hope that after seeing all these posts and witnessing Express playing kids down on not one but two teams at the Blatant tournament that tournament directors moniter the situation and make sure that these teams in question are not allowed to play kids down in future tournaments..
what I hope that after seeing all these posts and witnessing Express playing kids down on not one but two teams at the Blatant tournament that tournament directors moniter the situation and make sure that these teams in question are not allowed to play kids down in future tournaments..
Does Express still have a girls program and if so where do they practice? Will they be having additional tryouts?
Good day for 2018 Terps at the Philly Freshman Showcase - 4 kids made the All-Star team.
Does anyone know which 2020 team is playing at the fall brawl this weekend
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know which 2020 team is playing at the fall brawl this weekend
C team
Minutemen went 1-2 at the Mayflower with both losses coming to town teams.
Wow! That's a pretty bad showing from the team formerly known as the minutemen
What's with the ridiculous 1 hour practice time slot at the Hub for $395 ? When you can go 7 weeks of high rep training for an hour and a half with DLT training at $305 . What can you possibly accomplish in a team practice for 1 hour ? Get a grip , the organization is falling apart and the high price rip off is played out !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's with the ridiculous 1 hour practice time slot at the Hub for $395 ? When you can go 7 weeks of high rep training for an hour and a half with DLT training at $305 . What can you possibly accomplish in a team practice for 1 hour ? Get a grip , the organization is falling apart and the high price rip off is played out !
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's with the ridiculous 1 hour practice time slot at the Hub for $395 ? When you can go 7 weeks of high rep training for an hour and a half with DLT training at $305 . What can you possibly accomplish in a team practice for 1 hour ? Get a grip , the organization is falling apart and the high price rip off is played out !
YA THINK $$$$$$$
Hey NEWSFLASH !!!!!...Express / 91 / Outlaws/ Jesters players all goto DLT training ... get a grip .... sorry to break the news , put your baseball cap on and dark sunglasses and come down on Saturday to see for yourself !! and then after that it will be you who needs the Vaseline after seeing your not cutting it???
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's with the ridiculous 1 hour practice time slot at the Hub for $395 ? When you can go 7 weeks of high rep training for an hour and a half with DLT training at $305 . What can you possibly accomplish in a team practice for 1 hour ? Get a grip , the organization is falling apart and the high price rip off is played out !
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey NEWSFLASH !!!!!...Express / 91 / Outlaws/ Jesters players all goto DLT training ... get a grip .... sorry to break the news , put your baseball cap on and dark sunglasses and come down on Saturday to see for yourself !! and then after that it will be you who needs the Vaseline after seeing your not cutting it???
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]What's with the ridiculous 1 hour practice time slot at the Hub for $395 ? When you can go 7 weeks of high rep training for an hour and a half with DLT training at $305 . What can you possibly accomplish in a team practice for 1 hour ? Get a grip , the organization is falling apart and the high price rip off is played out !
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
It is no wonder you pay alimony!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey NEWSFLASH !!!!!...Express / 91 / Outlaws/ Jesters players all goto DLT training ... get a grip .... sorry to break the news , put your baseball cap on and dark sunglasses and come down on Saturday to see for yourself !! and then after that it will be you who needs the Vaseline after seeing your not cutting it???
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]What's with the ridiculous 1 hour practice time slot at the Hub for $395 ? When you can go 7 weeks of high rep training for an hour and a half with DLT training at $305 . What can you possibly accomplish in a team practice for 1 hour ? Get a grip , the organization is falling apart and the high price rip off is played out !
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
It is no wonder you pay alimony!
alimony or not, many of us feel the guy that runs Express is a bit SLEEEEZY
The ones who pay the BIG money will eventually see thats all its about ! , if you do not say something this will continue with minimal return for your son , An hour time slot for indoor practice at that rate is ridiculous and would think people are smart enough to realize in that hour if something above and beyond the norm is not offered , (like MC JR running that hour session) , then its not worth the $400.00 , Oh and very true about DLT , not a 91 fan but the training is a [lacrosse] of a lot more beneficial to a kid on the off season , and the best part every club out there has representation at their clinics. So on the backend a huge majority of LIE players shop elsewhere including playing for other travel clubs when the opportunity is presented .
[/quote
It is no wonder you pay alimony!
alimony or not, many of us feel the guy that runs Express is a bit SLEEEEZY
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey NEWSFLASH !!!!!...Express / 91 / Outlaws/ Jesters players all goto DLT training ... get a grip .... sorry to break the news , put your baseball cap on and dark sunglasses and come down on Saturday to see for yourself !! and then after that it will be you who needs the Vaseline after seeing your not cutting it???
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]What's with the ridiculous 1 hour practice time slot at the Hub for $395 ? When you can go 7 weeks of high rep training for an hour and a half with DLT training at $305 . What can you possibly accomplish in a team practice for 1 hour ? Get a grip , the organization is falling apart and the high price rip off is played out !
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
It is no wonder you pay alimony!
alimony or not, many of us feel the guy that runs Express is a bit SLEEEEZY
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ones who pay the BIG money will eventually see thats all its about ! , if you do not say something this will continue with minimal return for your son , An hour time slot for indoor practice at that rate is ridiculous and would think people are smart enough to realize in that hour if something above and beyond the norm is not offered , (like MC JR running that hour session) , then its not worth the $400.00 , Oh and very true about DLT , not a 91 fan but the training is a [lacrosse] of a lot more beneficial to a kid on the off season , and the best part every club out there has representation at their clinics. So on the backend a huge majority of LIE players shop elsewhere including playing for other travel clubs when the opportunity is presented .
[/quote
It is no wonder you pay alimony!
alimony or not, many of us feel the guy that runs Express is a bit SLEEEEZY
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey NEWSFLASH !!!!!...Express / 91 / Outlaws/ Jesters players all goto DLT training ... get a grip .... sorry to break the news , put your baseball cap on and dark sunglasses and come down on Saturday to see for yourself !! and then after that it will be you who needs the Vaseline after seeing your not cutting it???
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]What's with the ridiculous 1 hour practice time slot at the Hub for $395 ? When you can go 7 weeks of high rep training for an hour and a half with DLT training at $305 . What can you possibly accomplish in a team practice for 1 hour ? Get a grip , the organization is falling apart and the high price rip off is played out !
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
It is no wonder you pay alimony!
alimony or not, many of us feel the guy that runs Express is a bit SLEEEEZY
Hey Schomy, when's the next time you're going to put the Express name in front of your FOGO training at the HUB ? ? ? Wasn't the $ charge $ about 20-30 more than usual ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ones who pay the BIG money will eventually see thats all its about ! , if you do not say something this will continue with minimal return for your son , An hour time slot for indoor practice at that rate is ridiculous and would think people are smart enough to realize in that hour if something above and beyond the norm is not offered , (like MC JR running that hour session) , then its not worth the $400.00 , Oh and very true about DLT , not a 91 fan but the training is a [lacrosse] of a lot more beneficial to a kid on the off season , and the best part every club out there has representation at their clinics. So on the backend a huge majority of LIE players shop elsewhere including playing for other travel clubs when the opportunity is presented .
[/quote
It is no wonder you pay alimony!
alimony or not, many of us feel the guy that runs Express is a bit SLEEEEZY
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey NEWSFLASH !!!!!...Express / 91 / Outlaws/ Jesters players all goto DLT training ... get a grip .... sorry to break the news , put your baseball cap on and dark sunglasses and come down on Saturday to see for yourself !! and then after that it will be you who needs the Vaseline after seeing your not cutting it???
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]What's with the ridiculous 1 hour practice time slot at the Hub for $395 ? When you can go 7 weeks of high rep training for an hour and a half with DLT training at $305 . What can you possibly accomplish in a team practice for 1 hour ? Get a grip , the organization is falling apart and the high price rip off is played out !
Thank you for telling me where to spend my money - please let me know if I am paying to much for my car or my alimony. I don't know about other teams but we go for an hour and a half. The real question is what would a 91/DLT person be doing on the express thread besides living vicariously through the Express? take your binoculars and Vaseline and go home.
It is no wonder you pay alimony!
alimony or not, many of us feel the guy that runs Express is a bit SLEEEEZY
Hey Schomy, when's the next time you're going to put the Express name in front of your FOGO training at the HUB ? ? ? Wasn't the $ charge $ about 20-30 more than usual ?
last winter i think
i like mike
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i like mike
You must be his water carrier/ball washer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i like mike
You must be his water carrier/ball washer
clean testies and well hydrated and 4 2018 commits, sounds good to me.
Whatever it takes! Don't forget knee pads!
DLT was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is express so expensive? ? ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DLT was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is express so expensive? ? ?
Greed and they have to fund their legal bills.
Lawyers are expensive . Wait until they lose the lawsuit eand have to pay JA. Tuition will sky rocket when that happens.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DLT was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is express so expensive? ? ?
Greed and they have to fund their legal bills.
Seven ninety minute sessions for $300. Such a deal. Wonder how much Mike would have charged ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DLT was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is express so expensive? ? ?
My son recently attended a DLT training program that was advertised as the training done by the DLT Directors. One director was there on the first day and that was it. None showed up for any of the other 8 or 9 sessions. Pathetic and false advertising!!!
I brought my son to a DLT shooting clinic last year and it was a joke! 2 kids came down and did absolutely nothing different than what I do with my own kid. There was a mix of grades there, not good when there are 3rd graders that still can't catch. Money grab, no different than any other club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DLT was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is express so expensive? ? ?
my Hyundai was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is Rolls Royce expensive?
Long Island Express.....The Rolls Royce of lacrosse training.
I can't afford a Rolls Royce but I can afford the best lacrosse training on Long Island so I choose Express
go back to the 91 thread troll
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I brought my son to a DLT shooting clinic last year and it was a joke! 2 kids came down and did absolutely nothing different than what I do with my own kid. There was a mix of grades there, not good when there are 3rd graders that still can't catch. Money grab, no different than any other club.
Didn't see that at all. Very good high intensity work out. Very affordable. Why doesn't Express offer same?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DLT was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is express so expensive? ? ?
My son recently attended a DLT training program that was advertised as the training done by the DLT Directors. One director was there on the first day and that was it. None showed up for any of the other 8 or 9 sessions. Pathetic and false advertising!!!
This was goalie training that I was excited to have my son attend because 3 of the DLT directors were goalies. Very disappointing when only 1 showed up once.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DLT was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is express so expensive? ? ?
my Hyundai was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is Rolls Royce expensive?
Long Island Express.....The Rolls Royce of lacrosse training.
I can't afford a Rolls Royce but I can afford the best lacrosse training on Long Island so I choose Express
go back to the 91 thread troll
Rolls Royce !
Oh, I forgot , you might get trained by Mike JR..hahahahahahahahah, thanks trolly.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DLT was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is express so expensive? ? ?
My son recently attended a DLT training program that was advertised as the training done by the DLT Directors. One director was there on the first day and that was it. None showed up for any of the other 8 or 9 sessions. Pathetic and false advertising!!!
Classic 91 bait & switch!
Same here . Signed up for Legacy goalie training with Mark Spruyt tomorrow in deer park. Hope it is better
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DLT was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is express so expensive? ? ?
My son recently attended a DLT training program that was advertised as the training done by the DLT Directors. One director was there on the first day and that was it. None showed up for any of the other 8 or 9 sessions. Pathetic and false advertising!!!
Classic 91 bait & switch!
Had a bunch of directors and Spallina at our sessions so far, I guess it is hit/miss. Still pretty good but certainly not cheap.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DLT was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is express so expensive? ? ?
My son recently attended a DLT training program that was advertised as the training done by the DLT Directors. One director was there on the first day and that was it. None showed up for any of the other 8 or 9 sessions. Pathetic and false advertising!!!
Classic 91 bait & switch!
Had a bunch of directors and Spallina at our sessions so far, I guess it is hit/miss. Still pretty good but certainly not cheap.
Was really good.super value. much better than anything Express offers
These pissing contests between express and 91 are very entertaining. 2 questions: who does better on the recruiting front and in each grade who has the better teams? Serious answers please.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
These pissing contests between express and 91 are very entertaining. 2 questions: who does better on the recruiting front and in each grade who has the better teams? Serious answers please.
In general , express better recruiting, 91 better teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
These pissing contests between express and 91 are very entertaining. 2 questions: who does better on the recruiting front and in each grade who has the better teams? Serious answers please.
Only pissing contests are between the parents.. The organizations make money together and kids bounce from org to org. Both organizations have a nice running list of commits.
As for which has the better teams, Express has always had the better older teams, but I think that changes after 2017.
2015,2016 - Probably Express
2017 - Express Turtles
2018 - 91 Xtreme
2019 - 91 Orange
2020 - 91 Crush
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DLT was awesome last night.A real bargain. Why is express so expensive? ? ?
My son recently attended a DLT training program that was advertised as the training done by the DLT Directors. One director was there on the first day and that was it. None showed up for any of the other 8 or 9 sessions. Pathetic and false advertising!!!
Classic 91 bait & switch!
Had a bunch of directors and Spallina at our sessions so far, I guess it is hit/miss. Still pretty good but certainly not cheap.
At the goalie training session they had NO directors there and they were supposed to be the ones doing the training. Very disgusting false advertising.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
These pissing contests between express and 91 are very entertaining. 2 questions: who does better on the recruiting front and in each grade who has the better teams? Serious answers please.
Only pissing contests are between the parents.. The organizations make money together and kids bounce from org to org. Both organizations have a nice running list of commits.
As for which has the better teams, Express has always had the better older teams, but I think that changes after 2017.
2015,2016 - Probably Express
2017 - Express Turtles
2018 - 91 Xtreme
2019 - 91 Orange
2020 - 91 Crush
2015/2016 - 91
2017 - turtles (really Exoress?)
2018 - Extreme
2019 - 91 Orange
2020 - 91
2021 - 91
2022 - Smash
2023 - Bandits
2015/2016 - 91
2017 - turtles (really Exoress?)
2018 - Extreme
2019 - 91 Orange
2020 - 91 -Who Cares
2021 - 91 1 Who Cares
2022 - Smash- Who Cares
2023 - Bandits - Who Cares
Who cares means , is it really that important at that age who is top ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
These pissing contests between express and 91 are very entertaining. 2 questions: who does better on the recruiting front and in each grade who has the better teams? Serious answers please.
Only pissing contests are between the parents.. The organizations make money together and kids bounce from org to org. Both organizations have a nice running list of commits.
As for which has the better teams, Express has always had the better older teams, but I think that changes after 2017.
2015,2016 - Probably Express
2017 - Express Turtles
2018 - 91 Xtreme
2019 - 91 Orange
2020 - 91 Crush
2015/2016 - 91
2017 - turtles (really Exoress?)
2018 - Extreme
2019 - 91 Orange
2020 - 91
2021 - 91
2022 - Smash
2023 - Bandits
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2015/2016 - 91
2017 - turtles (really Exoress?)
2018 - Extreme
2019 - 91 Orange
2020 - 91 -Who Cares
2021 - 91 1 Who Cares
2022 - Smash- Who Cares
2023 - Bandits - Who Cares
Who cares means , is it really that important at that age who is top ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
These pissing contests between express and 91 are very entertaining. 2 questions: who does better on the recruiting front and in each grade who has the better teams? Serious answers please.
Only pissing contests are between the parents.. The organizations make money together and kids bounce from org to org. Both organizations have a nice running list of commits.
As for which has the better teams, Express has always had the better older teams, but I think that changes after 2017.
2015,2016 - Probably Express
2017 - Express Turtles
2018 - 91 Xtreme
2019 - 91 Orange
2020 - 91 Crush
2015/2016 - 91
2017 - turtles (really Exoress?)
2018 - Extreme
2019 - 91 Orange
2020 - 91
2021 - 91
2022 - Smash
2023 - Bandits
Makes no difference which travel club is better at ANY AGE GROUP
FROM US LACROSSE:
Dom Starsia: A (Second) Letter to Lacrosse Parents
Finally, how do you choose one club over another? No matter what some of the club coaches might tell you, the college coaches do not really care what club you play for. All we care about is, are you good enough?
Now, one club or another might expose you to more and bigger tournaments, but a candidate can also disappear in those settings. If we have reason to think your son is good enough, all we really need to know is where and when he will be playing. We will do the rest. It doesn't matter whose fancy club jersey you may be wearing. Play well, stand out amongst your peers and, as Daniel Day Lewis exclaimed in "Last of the Mohicans," we will find you!
Express, better individual talent and better recruiting; 91 has better teams strictly from a winning percentage but as everyone knows, winning percentages are very subjective since the schedules and opponents of both clubs are rarely the same.
2021 - I would replace team 91 with Igloo.
Express has put back together the barracuda team with upgrades they are by far best in the grade
Those must be some upgrades!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2021 - I would replace team 91 with Igloo.
Would you? Would you read the posts before to understand the question or Igloo is the answer either way?
Express or 91 - no one asked for write in votes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express, better individual talent and better recruiting; 91 has better teams strictly from a winning percentage but as everyone knows, winning percentages are very subjective since the schedules and opponents of both clubs are rarely the same.
BS. Both play competitive tournaments at every level. How about heads up? 91 teams are better with very few exceptions
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has put back together the barracuda team with upgrades they are by far best in the grade
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has put back together the barracuda team with upgrades they are by far best in the grade
For 2016s? Nobody cares - that's no different than all of the other committed teams out there like Sweetlax etc. Lets keep the conversation to younger, non-committed teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has put back together the barracuda team with upgrades they are by far best in the grade
They still can't beat the turtles.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has put back together the barracuda team with upgrades they are by far best in the grade
They still can't beat the turtles.
What a [lacrosse] !!
The back together Barracuda team,is now known as the 2016 Express Select Team... The boys are NOT all committed...They are a great team...Coaches will absolutely find late great pick ups on this team...There are also some great late pick ups on the 2017 Turtles too Good luck to all the boys!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has put back together the barracuda team with upgrades they are by far best in the grade
That is a joke, the will be beaten by all the big boys!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The back together Barracuda team,is now known as the 2016 Express Select Team... The boys are NOT all committed...They are a great team...Coaches will absolutely find late great pick ups on this team...There are also some great late pick ups on the 2017 Turtles too Good luck to all the boys!
If they have a bunch of committed players they should only play other committed teams such as the fl$ committed team. Does Express still have a committed team separate from the Barracudas?
Looking at the committments listed on the express website, the 2016 was not as successful as either the 2015s or 2017s and it looks like the 2018s will surpass the number of 2016s as well.
The late great Pick ups are Juniors who have proven themselves on the Field and in the classroom...
and in areas of testing...just some great late bloomers!
Stay Tuned!
and in areas of testing...just some great late bloomers!
Stay Tuned!
The 2016 Express team will certainly be a player in the top tier,as they were previously.....There is no justice in putting down one team to make anothers look better....
The guys are eager to play together again!
The guys are eager to play together again!
The 2016 wasnt as successful due to the fact that Express changed ptotocol on the team and tried something that didnt work...therefore,some very good players did not get the exposure that the 15's and 17's got...they were a test case in changing up teams in their Sophomore year..the team has now been re united,and for some great players syill waiting for their chance to get recruited,very well deserved...The amount of committments,in this case,is not due to talent,but a mis step by the Express....Lets hope for the boys it all works out...Some awesome hard workers,finally starting to get well deserved looks!
Has anyone checked out this Alpha 423 training. Pannell and Seibald. looks good. Great price for six weeks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 2016 wasnt as successful due to the fact that Express changed ptotocol on the team and tried something that didnt work...therefore,some very good players did not get the exposure that the 15's and 17's got...they were a test case in changing up teams in their Sophomore year..the team has now been re united,and for some great players syill waiting for their chance to get recruited,very well deserved...The amount of committments,in this case,is not due to talent,but a mis step by the Express....Lets hope for the boys it all works out...Some awesome hard workers,finally starting to get well deserved looks!
What the [lacrosse] does this mean? Can you spell it out in plain English how Express screwed this grade? But, it sounds like mixing committed kids with uncommitted kids will just dilute the field time for the still uncommitted kids. Every minute that a committed kid plays for this team means one less minute on the field for an uncommitted kid. Sounds like another screw job for the uncommitted kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 2016 wasnt as successful due to the fact that Express changed ptotocol on the team and tried something that didnt work...therefore,some very good players did not get the exposure that the 15's and 17's got...they were a test case in changing up teams in their Sophomore year..the team has now been re united,and for some great players syill waiting for their chance to get recruited,very well deserved...The amount of committments,in this case,is not due to talent,but a mis step by the Express....Lets hope for the boys it all works out...Some awesome hard workers,finally starting to get well deserved looks!
What the [lacrosse] does this mean? Can you spell it out in plain English how Express screwed this grade? But, it sounds like mixing committed kids with uncommitted kids will just dilute the field time for the still uncommitted kids. Every minute that a committed kid plays for this team means one less minute on the field for an uncommitted kid. Sounds like another screw job for the uncommitted kids.
It's like talking to MC. Afterwards you think you've been screwed big time but your not really sure what just happened. This will be a train wreck for the uncommitted kids. And for sure some of the committed kids are being "scholarshiped" and not paying anything. Others won't be so lucky. Fantastic!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone checked out this Alpha 423 training. Pannell and Seibald. looks good. Great price for six weeks
Pimp much?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone checked out this Alpha 423 training. Pannell and Seibald. looks good. Great price for six weeks
Pimp much?
Naah, another monet grab, think I'll pass
Hey, is anyone going to the Outlaw tryouts that they just announced?
I e-mailed 2017 Express a while ago, if any of their teams need an attackmen, I'm wondering know if any of the teams need one now or/and a middie?
Blatant post
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone checked out this Alpha 423 training. Pannell and Seibald. looks good. Great price for six weeks
Pimp much?
Naah, another monet grab, think I'll pass
Went to first one. They do a great job. Can't beat it for the money. Pro players and coaches.
Will express have a committed only team again? I heard the committed team experience last year was a disaster. Will they try it again or are they just going to have this one team mixed with committed and uncommitted kids?
Ranking best express teams ever. Based on natty champs and most tournament wins, most recruited kids etc. Turtles #1, 2015 Orange #2.
Take the Pannel and Seibald training talk to the Jester thread. It may spark a discussion on that dying club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Take the Pannel and Seibald training talk to the Jester thread. It may spark a discussion on that dying club.
Dying? They have some good teams out there. Worry about whatever all star team your little guy plays on
I like Rob and Max they do a great job. I'm bringing my kid to the clinic who cares about the Jesters. I care about my son being taught the game. Not about a club living or dying.
Dying? They have some good teams out there. Worry about whatever all star team your little guy plays on
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Take the Pannel and Seibald training talk to the Jester thread. It may spark a discussion on that dying club.
Dying? They have some good teams out there. Worry about whatever all star team your little guy plays on
Good luck at the Clinic. You won't see Max or Rob --- you'll be seeing RN and his crew. Enjoy
Been to 4 clinics so far. Max has been to two and they have other Lizards there on the weeks he was not. Why come on here and say things that are not true? If you don't want to go, don't go. Very juvenile to make things up as if you were informed.
Why are we discussing the Jesters in this thread?
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Ranking best express teams ever. Based on natty champs and most tournament wins, most recruited kids etc. Turtles #1, 2015 Orange #2.
Thats a johnny come lately view. The 2011-2014 vintages are the classes that really put the Express on the national map. I'll put the "A" teams in those years up against the Turtles or anybody before or since.
That's not true. Max Rob and there friends have been training my kids for the past 5 weeks and who is RN ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck at the Clinic. You won't see Max or Rob --- you'll be seeing RN and his crew. Enjoy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's not true. Max Rob and there friends have been training my kids for the past 5 weeks and who is RN ?
RN is a co-director of the Jesters along with Max and Rob.
Rich Nessim is the founder of the Jesters who helped bulid it to the handful of teams powerhouse that the Jesters are today.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rich Nessim is the founder of the Jesters who helped bulid it to the handful of teams powerhouse that the Jesters are today.
Powerhouse? What tournaments have they ever won. Strange statement
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rich Nessim is the founder of the Jesters who helped bulid it to the handful of teams powerhouse that the Jesters are today.
Powerhouse? What tournaments have they ever won. Strange statement
Which age group ?
2022 won fl$ last year
2020 second in fl$
2018 won a couple and finished second at laxfest
2021 solid team. In finals of a couoke ast year
Maybe not powerhouse , but some decent teams. Not so strong at some of the other ages. Not sure why on Exoress site though? Take to Jesters please.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rich Nessim is the founder of the Jesters who helped bulid it to the handful of teams powerhouse that the Jesters are today.
Powerhouse? What tournaments have they ever won. Strange statement
Which age group ?
2022 won fl$ last year
2020 second in fl$
2018 won a couple and finished second at laxfest
2021 solid team. In finals of a couoke ast year
Maybe not powerhouse , but some decent teams. Not so strong at some of the other ages. Not sure why on Exoress site though? Take to Jesters please.
Jesters 2018 is their only good team that can compete in A brackets. 2021 did last year but will struggle if they play A this year. 2020 is a mid to low level B team now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rich Nessim is the founder of the Jesters who helped bulid it to the handful of teams powerhouse that the Jesters are today.
Powerhouse? What tournaments have they ever won. Strange statement
Which age group ?
2022 won fl$ last year
2020 second in fl$
2018 won a couple and finished second at laxfest
2021 solid team. In finals of a couoke ast year
Maybe not powerhouse , but some decent teams. Not so strong at some of the other ages. Not sure why on Exoress site though? Take to Jesters please.
Jesters 2018 is their only good team that can compete in A brackets. 2021 did last year but will struggle if they play A this year. 2020 is a mid to low level B team now.
2020 improved and 2022 is absolutely an A team. 2021 will be same as last year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rich Nessim is the founder of the Jesters who helped bulid it to the handful of teams powerhouse that the Jesters are today.
Powerhouse? What tournaments have they ever won. Strange statement
Which age group ?
2022 won fl$ last year
2020 second in fl$
2018 won a couple and finished second at laxfest
2021 solid team. In finals of a couoke ast year
Maybe not powerhouse , but some decent teams. Not so strong at some of the other ages. Not sure why on Exoress site though? Take to Jesters please.
Jesters 2018 is their only good team that can compete in A brackets. 2021 did last year but will struggle if they play A this year. 2020 is a mid to low level B team now.
2020 improved and 2022 is absolutely an A team. 2021 will be same as last year.
They lost to the Legacy B team.
I sense a merger comin in the near future
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rich Nessim is the founder of the Jesters who helped bulid it to the handful of teams powerhouse that the Jesters are today.
Powerhouse? What tournaments have they ever won. Strange statement
Which age group ?
2022 won fl$ last year
2020 second in fl$
2018 won a couple and finished second at laxfest
2021 solid team. In finals of a couoke ast year
Maybe not powerhouse , but some decent teams. Not so strong at some of the other ages. Not sure why on Exoress site though? Take to Jesters please.
Jesters 2018 is their only good team that can compete in A brackets. 2021 did last year but will struggle if they play A this year. 2020 is a mid to low level B team now.
2020 improved and 2022 is absolutely an A team. 2021 will be same as last year.
They lost to the Legacy B team.
Who did?
The "improved" 2020 Jesters lost to Legacy B.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "improved" 2020 Jesters lost to Legacy B.
I would like to see the A team play the B team? I'm not convinced which is true A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would like to see the A team play the B team? I'm not convinced which is true A team.
What age group?
Isn't this supposed to be an Express thread? What's with all the Jesters' posts?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Isn't this supposed to be an Express thread? What's with all the Jesters' posts?
That was about Legacy 2022
Is it me or does legacy put themselves on every thread
people are crazy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Isn't this supposed to be an Express thread? What's with all the Jesters' posts?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it me or does legacy put themselves on every thread
It is you!
Does anyone know if they are planning on fielding a 3rd grade team this year and if yes who will be coaching? I tried to email them directly but got no answer.
The 2024 played last year and was a disaster.
The 2019 LI express north team beat the 2019 Central express team 18-6 in their first game against each other.
The 2019 express north team beat the 2019 central team 18-6
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Does anyone know if they are planning on fielding a 3rd grade team this year and if yes who will be coaching? I tried to email them directly but got no answer.
They have one that started in the spring. They had a scrimmage or 2 already. I believe Jim Hughes is coaching.
Doesn't he coach the barracuda team also?
They have one that started in the spring. They had a scrimmage or 2 already. I believe Jim Hughes is coaching.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know if they are planning on fielding a 3rd grade team this year and if yes who will be coaching? I tried to email them directly but got no answer.
They have one that started in the spring. They had a scrimmage or 2 already. I believe Jim Hughes is coaching.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 2019 express north team beat the 2019 central team 18-6
What is the 2019 "central" team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Doesn't he coach the barracuda team also?
They have one that started in the spring. They had a scrimmage or 2 already. I believe Jim Hughes is coaching.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know if they are planning on fielding a 3rd grade team this year and if yes who will be coaching? I tried to email them directly but got no answer.
They have one that started in the spring. They had a scrimmage or 2 already. I believe Jim Hughes is coaching.
He might but he is coaching the 2024's too...here is their schedule from their website:
2024 - 1 LONG ISLAND
May 29-31 JDRF, Massapequa
June 6 & 7 Andy Forsberg, Huntington, LI
June 13 & 14 fl$, Uniondale
June 27 & 28 Lax Clash, Uniondale, NY
July 4 & 5 Legacy, Devens, MA
Wow looking at the 2021 cuda team schedule you would think they would be placed in better tournaments , identical to the 3rd grade team.
So would take it he is coaching both teams .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Doesn't he coach the barracuda team also?
They have one that started in the spring. They had a scrimmage or 2 already. I believe Jim Hughes is coaching.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know if they are planning on fielding a 3rd grade team this year and if yes who will be coaching? I tried to email them directly but got no answer.
They have one that started in the spring. They had a scrimmage or 2 already. I believe Jim Hughes is coaching.
He might but he is coaching the 2024's too...here is their schedule from their website:
2024 - 1 LONG ISLAND
May 29-31 JDRF, Massapequa
June 6 & 7 Andy Forsberg, Huntington, LI
June 13 & 14 fl$, Uniondale
June 27 & 28 Lax Clash, Uniondale, NY
July 4 & 5 Legacy, Devens, MA
How did 2022 team do vs 91 United in that scrimmage?
There is no more Cudas , team left for 91 , legacy and Igloo , some even went over to wolves .
quote=Anonymous]
Wow looking at the 2021 cuda team schedule you would think they would be placed in better tournaments , identical to the 3rd grade team.
So would take it he is coaching both teams .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Doesn't he coach the barracuda team also?
They have one that started in the spring. They had a scrimmage or 2 already. I believe Jim Hughes is coaching.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know if they are planning on fielding a 3rd grade team this year and if yes who will be coaching? I tried to email them directly but got no answer.
They have one that started in the spring. They had a scrimmage or 2 already. I believe Jim Hughes is coaching.
He might but he is coaching the 2024's too...here is their schedule from their website:
2024 - 1 LONG ISLAND
May 29-31 JDRF, Massapequa
June 6 & 7 Andy Forsberg, Huntington, LI
June 13 & 14 fl$, Uniondale
June 27 & 28 Lax Clash, Uniondale, NY
July 4 & 5 Legacy, Devens, MA
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 team do vs 91 United in that scrimmage?
We lost
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 team do vs 91 United in that scrimmage?
We lost
I am actually surprised about that. I thought Express had a better team after watching United at the Shamrock. I was NOT impressed at all.
Anyone know why cudas are done?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 team do vs 91 United in that scrimmage?
We lost
I am actually surprised about that. I thought Express had a better team after watching United at the Shamrock. I was NOT impressed at all.
They are kids and will play great at times, and sometimes have a tough time. They won, give them the credit they deserve. Hopefully, we get to play them again. Good competition in a really talented age group. They are 5 teams in the age on LI that can go to any A tournament and compete and win. Strong Island all the way. Let's all sit back and enjoy the ups and be there for our kids on the downs. Good luck, the summer season is upon us shortly.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 team do vs 91 United in that scrimmage?
We lost
I am actually surprised about that. I thought Express had a better team after watching United at the Shamrock. I was NOT impressed at all.
Well the were impressive on Sunday night. The score was 9-7 but could have been much worse if not for the play of our goalies.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 team do vs 91 United in that scrimmage?
We lost
I am actually surprised about that. I thought Express had a better team after watching United at the Shamrock. I was NOT impressed at all.
Well the were impressive on Sunday night. The score was 9-7 but could have been much worse if not for the play of our goalies.
Are you serious? Who bashes their own goalies?!
Hello Administrator???? how do you let someone post this about specific players (who are 10 years old)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 team do vs 91 United in that scrimmage?
We lost
I am actually surprised about that. I thought Express had a better team after watching United at the Shamrock. I was NOT impressed at all.
Well the were impressive on Sunday night. The score was 9-7 but could have been much worse if not for the play of our goalies.
Are you serious? Who bashes their own goalies?!
Hello Administrator???? how do you let someone post this about specific players (who are 10 years old)
Learn how to read! The author was complementing their goalie. You my friend are fool.
i think the poster was praising both goalies not bashing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 team do vs 91 United in that scrimmage?
We lost
I am actually surprised about that. I thought Express had a better team after watching United at the Shamrock. I was NOT impressed at all.
Well the were impressive on Sunday night. The score was 9-7 but could have been much worse if not for the play of our goalies.
Are you serious? Who bashes their own goalies?!
Hello Administrator???? how do you let someone post this about specific players (who are 10 years old)
It is true that we here at BOTC do not encourage it as it is an open invitation for someone to come in a bash the child, we do allow positive posts to be made. NOW, if someone comes in and bashes that child, then we have an issue.
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 team do vs 91 United in that scrimmage?
We lost
I am actually surprised about that. I thought Express had a better team after watching United at the Shamrock. I was NOT impressed at all.
Well the were impressive on Sunday night. The score was 9-7 but could have been much worse if not for the play of our goalies.
Are you serious? Who bashes their own goalies?!
Hello Administrator???? how do you let someone post this about specific players (who are 10 years old)
It is true that we here at BOTC do not encourage it as it is an open invitation for someone to come in a bash the child, we do allow positive posts to be made. NOW, if someone comes in and bashes that child, then we have an issue.
Well said Larry.
The original poster was clearly praising the goalis for keeping the score as close as it was.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 team do vs 91 United in that scrimmage?
We lost
I am actually surprised about that. I thought Express had a better team after watching United at the Shamrock. I was NOT impressed at all.
Well the were impressive on Sunday night. The score was 9-7 but could have been much worse if not for the play of our goalies.
Are you serious? Who bashes their own goalies?!
Hello Administrator???? how do you let someone post this about specific players (who are 10 years old)
To be clear, our goalies played awesome, stopping many point blank shots. Is that better Dummy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 team do vs 91 United in that scrimmage?
We lost
I am actually surprised about that. I thought Express had a better team after watching United at the Shamrock. I was NOT impressed at all.
Well the were impressive on Sunday night. The score was 9-7 but could have been much worse if not for the play of our goalies.
Are you serious? Who bashes their own goalies?!
Hello Administrator???? how do you let someone post this about specific players (who are 10 years old)
To be clear, our goalies played awesome, stopping many point blank shots. Is that better Dummy.
the rest of the team helped as well. We need work.nothing we didn't already know. But we are getting better every day.
Looks like a great 2021 match-up tomorrow at pro-player with new head coach to be for 91 against express team 1. Hearing 91 has a really good roster stacked for tomorrow .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like a great 2021 match-up tomorrow at pro-player with new head coach to be for 91 against express team 1. Hearing 91 has a really good roster stacked for tomorrow .
Thanks dad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like a great 2021 match-up tomorrow at pro-player with new head coach to be for 91 against express team 1. Hearing 91 has a really good roster stacked for tomorrow .
New coach plays top 14 kids, has always. Let's see how the 91 white parents like that.
Express plays United at Proplayer. I believe Express will win we have the edge at goalkeeper. Should be a great game.
not sure about a new head coach, yet they picked up another solid coach. This 91 team will be something to watch this season
Heard from a few other 91 coaches that this guy is transitioning to take team over possibly this or next season due to current coaching flaws. Looking at this new addition Bio VS the current coaches Bio I would have to say its true that this may occur . Business is Business when you want solid production not smoking mirrors. You don't really think he was put there to just give a helping hand do you?
This has been in the works since tryouts so its nothing new !
HMMM to many Indians not enough chiefs !
This has been in the works since tryouts so its nothing new !
HMMM to many Indians not enough chiefs !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not sure about a new head coach, yet they picked up another solid coach. This 91 team will be something to watch this season
Who are you. Talking about?
Express Wolves vs 91 White is a great match? Unless 91 has a bunch of Orange players on the team for tomorrow it will not be a close game. Has 91 White added players since the fall when they were playing "B" DIV and beat the Jesters only 2-1?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like a great 2021 match-up tomorrow at pro-player with new head coach to be for 91 against express team 1. Hearing 91 has a really good roster stacked for tomorrow .
another idiot. The game was 2-0. I have never seen so many men with nothing better to do than be on this site and have no knowledge at all. I feel for your kids
2-1 or 2-0 is still a close game against a B team. The original post was not a mean post unless it hit a soft spot. Your the one that is calling names and setting a bad example for kids. You should just hope the kids go out there tomorrow and show you are correct and play a good game. Just because you disagree with someone you don't have to call names. When you resort to name calling your point is lost if you have one.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
another idiot. The game was 2-0. I have never seen so many men with nothing better to do than be on this site and have no knowledge at all. I feel for your kids
91 has a nasty Fogo and a few of last year's express Cuda players which if I recall they pounced on wolves so much last season that the whining wolve parents complained on why they were so good for a B team playing against their A.
Hence to keep the wolve-pack parents happy this year channy took over team and removed coaches from last season and made them basically a team paren't . . I guess the wolves will know what they are going to face when they get there. gonna be a great game !
quote=Anonymous]Express Wolves vs 91 White is a great match? Unless 91 has a bunch of Orange players on the team for tomorrow it will not be a close game. Has 91 White added players since the fall when they were playing "B" DIV and beat the Jesters only 2-1?
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Hence to keep the wolve-pack parents happy this year channy took over team and removed coaches from last season and made them basically a team paren't . . I guess the wolves will know what they are going to face when they get there. gonna be a great game !
quote=Anonymous]Express Wolves vs 91 White is a great match? Unless 91 has a bunch of Orange players on the team for tomorrow it will not be a close game. Has 91 White added players since the fall when they were playing "B" DIV and beat the Jesters only 2-1?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like a great 2021 match-up tomorrow at pro-player with new head coach to be for 91 against express team 1. Hearing 91 has a really good roster stacked for tomorrow .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 has a nasty Fogo and a few of last year's express Cuda players which if I recall they pounced on wolves so much last season that the whining wolve parents complained on why they were so good for a B team playing against their A.
Hence to keep the wolve-pack parents happy this year channy took over team and removed coaches from last season and made them basically a team paren't . . I guess the wolves will know what they are going to face when they get there. gonna be a great game !
quote=Anonymous]Express Wolves vs 91 White is a great match? Unless 91 has a bunch of Orange players on the team for tomorrow it will not be a close game. Has 91 White added players since the fall when they were playing "B" DIV and beat the Jesters only 2-1?
Hence to keep the wolve-pack parents happy this year channy took over team and removed coaches from last season and made them basically a team paren't . . I guess the wolves will know what they are going to face when they get there. gonna be a great game !
quote=Anonymous]Express Wolves vs 91 White is a great match? Unless 91 has a bunch of Orange players on the team for tomorrow it will not be a close game. Has 91 White added players since the fall when they were playing "B" DIV and beat the Jesters only 2-1?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like a great 2021 match-up tomorrow at pro-player with new head coach to be for 91 against express team 1. Hearing 91 has a really good roster stacked for tomorrow .
I love the 91 bravado. Makes me laugh.
If you are a 91 parent and just stirring the pot,
You are doing a great job keep it up. If you are a 91 parent
You should be quiet, u will get killed tomorrow
You are doing a great job keep it up. If you are a 91 parent
You should be quiet, u will get killed tomorrow
If the cudas were so great last year why did they fall apart?
You sound like a dad who is still mad their kid was on the b team.
The cudas were good to bad they couldn't hold it together.
Unfortunately your jealousy makes you sound like a sore looser.
So you try to bring down the other team to make you feel better.
MC wouldn't bother with a team if they didn't have any potential.
There are many teams that are strong in 2021.
Who ever wins tomorrow played a better game.
No excuses, learn from it and keep moving.
You sound like a dad who is still mad their kid was on the b team.
The cudas were good to bad they couldn't hold it together.
Unfortunately your jealousy makes you sound like a sore looser.
So you try to bring down the other team to make you feel better.
MC wouldn't bother with a team if they didn't have any potential.
There are many teams that are strong in 2021.
Who ever wins tomorrow played a better game.
No excuses, learn from it and keep moving.
Cudas were a self proclaimed A team last year.
91 white or ambush or B whatever, is a self proclaimed A team this year. 91's motto, if you say it enough, the parents will believe it.
91 white or ambush or B whatever, is a self proclaimed A team this year. 91's motto, if you say it enough, the parents will believe it.
How did 2022 Express 1 do against 91 United ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 Express 1 do against 91 United ?
Let's just say that they should probably stop the Smash talk.
Yes correct !! A Self proclaimed put together in one season A team that beat up a established 3 year core group A team called the wolves.
You all still can't handle you spent time and money and drank plenty of Kool Aide , good thing MC dismantled the Cudas this year.
You all still can't handle you spent time and money and drank plenty of Kool Aide , good thing MC dismantled the Cudas this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cudas were a self proclaimed A team last year.
91 white or ambush or B whatever, is a self proclaimed A team this year. 91's motto, if you say it enough, the parents will believe it.
91 white or ambush or B whatever, is a self proclaimed A team this year. 91's motto, if you say it enough, the parents will believe it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 Express 1 do against 91 United ?
Let's just say that they should probably stop the Smash talk.
10 - 1 United and it wasn''t even that close.
And u might want to mention they were missing three starters
And Express was missing three starters
Some say they were good, but what does that have to do with the wolves ?
Why is there such hate all teams have a A team and a B team.
Why would MC dismantle any team ? $$$ so now 2021 express doesn't have a
B Team and you think MC is happy with that.
Why is there such hate all teams have a A team and a B team.
Why would MC dismantle any team ? $$$ so now 2021 express doesn't have a
B Team and you think MC is happy with that.
Who was the coach on the Honey Badgers who was wearing the funny looking umbrella hat?
Hey where are the 91 parents 2021...crickets. ..score 13-3 wolves...great game right?...for wolves u mean..
Nice pouncing !
Yes, good thing the cudas are done all the teams were so afraid.
Move on buddy.
Move on buddy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey where are the 91 parents 2021...crickets. ..score 13-3 wolves...great game right?...for wolves u mean..
Are the wolves the A team? Which 91 team did they beat- the 2021 A team?
Honey Badgers got schooled at Pro Player. Was BM and AJ hiding?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey where are the 91 parents 2021...crickets. ..score 13-3 wolves...great game right?...for wolves u mean..
Are the wolves the A team? Which 91 team did they beat- the 2021 A team?
That was there 2nd team not a big win but it was a win.
No we are not the A team that would be orange in 2021.
I believe the previous posts were claiming that we would crush the wolves today.
We hope it was not one of our parents,
And just someone trying to make some trouble:
We didn't ask to play them and I am sure it wasn't that much fun for them either.
It's a shame when the games are a Blow out, nothing better then Some good competition on whatever level.
I believe the previous posts were claiming that we would crush the wolves today.
We hope it was not one of our parents,
And just someone trying to make some trouble:
We didn't ask to play them and I am sure it wasn't that much fun for them either.
It's a shame when the games are a Blow out, nothing better then Some good competition on whatever level.
Wolves beat the 91 B team.91 A team will be a good matchup for them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey where are the 91 parents 2021...crickets. ..score 13-3 wolves...great game right?...for wolves u mean..
6th grade? Get a life!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 Express 1 do against 91 United ?
Let's just say that they should probably stop the Smash talk.
10 - 1 United and it wasn''t even that close.
What was the score in the final ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 2022 Express 1 do against 91 United ?
Let's just say that they should probably stop the Smash talk.
10 - 1 United and it wasn''t even that close.
What was the score in the final ?
There was no final Express didnt want to play a final so they conceded the final.
i wouldn't bet on that and to make it even better i don't think the 2 teams will ever see each other to find out
Mike,
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Let us know if you are OK.
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Let us know if you are OK.
I'm out to sea with 5 players and 5 life jacket on a boat with a broken engine. Should I collect more money from the players and give them the life jacket, or just keep all life jackets and save myself?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm out to sea with 5 players and 5 life jacket on a boat with a broken engine. Should I collect more money from the players and give them the life jacket, or just keep all life jackets and save myself?
Save the life jackets for any kids that might want to leave 91... You already collected money from current players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm out to sea with 5 players and 5 life jacket on a boat with a broken engine. Should I collect more money from the players and give them the life jacket, or just keep all life jackets and save myself?
Save the life jackets for any kids that might want to leave 91... You already collected money from current players.
charge $60 for life vest wearing lessons and enroll them in a winter floating clinic
Still is a premiere program that plays in the best events vs the best competition from all over.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still is a premiere program that plays in the best events vs the best competition from all over.
I assume we are talking about the boys? What I saw from the girls program last summer was not that!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still is a premiere program that plays in the best events vs the best competition from all over.
I assume we are talking about the boys? What I saw from the girls program last summer was not that!
Boys are not anyomore either. Other clubs better in every age group!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still is a premiere program that plays in the best events vs the best competition from all over.
I assume we are talking about the boys? What I saw from the girls program last summer was not that!
Boys are not anyomore either. Other clubs better in every age group!
Seem to be doing well with recruits... Many commitments in 16, 17, 18, and soon 19. Just sayin...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still is a premiere program that plays in the best events vs the best competition from all over.
I assume we are talking about the boys? What I saw from the girls program last summer was not that!
Boys are not anyomore either. Other clubs better in every age group!
its time for you to move on to another sport. Try soccer.
All you can ask for is that the teams be competitive against quality competition. By your logic what do you do regarding 91 Orange since they recently lost to MadLax, a team they beat in the past? Guess it's back to the drawing board for them.
Can anyone tell me what happened to this organization? Just not up to par anymore.
Greed, rude, disrespectfully , through they were biullet proof, now they are done,
St Anthony not even Ranked, who would go there just for the. School. Chaminade will be the powerhouse going forward.
St Anthony not even Ranked, who would go there just for the. School. Chaminade will be the powerhouse going forward.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Greed, rude, disrespectfully , through they were biullet proof, now they are done,
St Anthony not even Ranked, who would go there just for the. School. Chaminade will be the powerhouse going forward.
St Anthony not even Ranked, who would go there just for the. School. Chaminade will be the powerhouse going forward.
Must agree. The St. Anthonys teachers stink. Dont even think about it unless you are prepared to hire a tutor for all academic subjects, or your kid is smart enough to self teach.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Greed, rude, disrespectfully , through they were biullet proof, now they are done,
St Anthony not even Ranked, who would go there just for the. School. Chaminade will be the powerhouse going forward.
St Anthony not even Ranked, who would go there just for the. School. Chaminade will be the powerhouse going forward.
a powerhouse in a division with only 2 schools.. that's funny!
Saint Dominic will beat both Anthony and Chaminade this year...be prepared!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saint Dominic will beat both Anthony and Chaminade this year...be prepared!
You must be high.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saint Dominic will beat both Anthony and Chaminade this year...be prepared!
Would love to bet against you on that one, if you are talking about lacrosse!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Greed, rude, disrespectfully , through they were biullet proof, now they are done,
St Anthony not even Ranked, who would go there just for the. School. Chaminade will be the powerhouse going forward.
St Anthony not even Ranked, who would go there just for the. School. Chaminade will be the powerhouse going forward.
a powerhouse in a division with only 2 schools.. that's funny!
A school that year in and year out plays the most difficult schedule on Long Island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saint Dominic will beat both Anthony and Chaminade this year...be prepared!
You must be high.
high like Snoop Dog boyyyy....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Greed, rude, disrespectfully , through they were biullet proof, now they are done,
St Anthony not even Ranked, who would go there just for the. School. Chaminade will be the powerhouse going forward.
St Anthony not even Ranked, who would go there just for the. School. Chaminade will be the powerhouse going forward.
a powerhouse in a division with only 2 schools.. that's funny!
A school that year in and year out plays the most difficult schedule on Long Island.
Suffolk County: 2-3 legit schools every year compete against each other.
Nassau County: 2-3 legit schools every year compete against each other.
So tell me whats the difference..........St A and Chaminade play the toughest out of conference schedule period.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Greed, rude, disrespectfully , through they were biullet proof, now they are done,
St Anthony not even Ranked, who would go there just for the. School. Chaminade will be the powerhouse going forward.
St Anthony not even Ranked, who would go there just for the. School. Chaminade will be the powerhouse going forward.
a powerhouse in a division with only 2 schools.. that's funny!
A school that year in and year out plays the most difficult schedule on Long Island.
What's so difficult about their schedule, they can't even beat the publics, St. A not even ranked.
Suffolk County: 2-3 legit schools every year compete against each other.
Nassau County: 2-3 legit schools every year compete against each other.
So tell me whats the difference..........St A and Chaminade play the toughest out of conference schedule period.
What's so difficult about their schedule?
You really can't be serious? Also, ask Manhasset -- a ranked team -- whether Cham can beat the publics.
You really can't be serious? Also, ask Manhasset -- a ranked team -- whether Cham can beat the publics.
no reason to bigger chammy parent--you play both WI and WM this year ...we will see how good your team is in just a few more weeks...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saint Dominic will beat both Anthony and Chaminade this year...be prepared!
What is the mix of grades at St Doms for this years varsity team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
no reason to bigger chammy parent--you play both WI and WM this year ...we will see how good your team is in just a few more weeks...
When was the last time WI beat Chaminade? 2012?
I believe it was 2011. At West Islip. By one goal.
if you really saw the WI v Chammy games in the past 10 years, only about 2 games (some can argue 3) you could have figured who won. the other games you couldn't figure out the winner till the end. Last year, going in I thought it would be a blodd bath Chammy walks away with it, during the game I thought WI had them. only one thing can be said - WI vs Chammy is a bad example - Those are some great games.
[quote=Anonymous]if you really saw the WI v Chammy games in the past 10 years, only about 2 games (some can argue 3) you could have figured who won. the other games you couldn't figure out the winner till the end. Last year, going in I thought it would be a blodd bath Chammy walks away with it, during the game I thought WI had them. only one thing can be said - WI vs Chammy is a bad example - Those are some great games.
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]if you really saw the WI v Chammy games in the past 10 years, only about 2 games (some can argue 3) you could have figured who won. the other games you couldn't figure out the winner till the end. Last year, going in I thought it would be a blodd bath Chammy walks away with it, during the game I thought WI had them. only one thing can be said - WI vs Chammy is a bad example - Those are some great games.
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
What did Chaminade say last year when they played WM?
SOS 2015
25 Mahassett
30 Chaminadw
45 St Anthony
25 Mahassett
30 Chaminadw
45 St Anthony
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]if you really saw the WI v Chammy games in the past 10 years, only about 2 games (some can argue 3) you could have figured who won. the other games you couldn't figure out the winner till the end. Last year, going in I thought it would be a blodd bath Chammy walks away with it, during the game I thought WI had them. only one thing can be said - WI vs Chammy is a bad example - Those are some great games.
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
What did Chaminade say last year when they played WM?
Chaminade said the same exact thing that WM said when they played in 2014.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]if you really saw the WI v Chammy games in the past 10 years, only about 2 games (some can argue 3) you could have figured who won. the other games you couldn't figure out the winner till the end. Last year, going in I thought it would be a blodd bath Chammy walks away with it, during the game I thought WI had them. only one thing can be said - WI vs Chammy is a bad example - Those are some great games.
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
What did Chaminade say last year when they played WM?
Chaminade said the same exact thing that WM said when they played in 2014.
2014? Living in the past!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]if you really saw the WI v Chammy games in the past 10 years, only about 2 games (some can argue 3) you could have figured who won. the other games you couldn't figure out the winner till the end. Last year, going in I thought it would be a blodd bath Chammy walks away with it, during the game I thought WI had them. only one thing can be said - WI vs Chammy is a bad example - Those are some great games.
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
What did Chaminade say last year when they played WM?
Chaminade said the same exact thing that WM said when they played in 2014.
2014? Living in the past!
Ummm... Isn't 2015 also the past?
2014? Living in the past!
Going back two years is living in the past but going back to last year isn't?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]if you really saw the WI v Chammy games in the past 10 years, only about 2 games (some can argue 3) you could have figured who won. the other games you couldn't figure out the winner till the end. Last year, going in I thought it would be a blodd bath Chammy walks away with it, during the game I thought WI had them. only one thing can be said - WI vs Chammy is a bad example - Those are some great games.
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
What did Chaminade say last year when they played WM?
Chaminade said the same exact thing that WM said when they played in 2014.
2014? Living in the past!
Ummm... Isn't 2015 also the past?
Your team will always be judged by the most recent game played. That's how it generally works.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]if you really saw the WI v Chammy games in the past 10 years, only about 2 games (some can argue 3) you could have figured who won. the other games you couldn't figure out the winner till the end. Last year, going in I thought it would be a blodd bath Chammy walks away with it, during the game I thought WI had them. only one thing can be said - WI vs Chammy is a bad example - Those are some great games.
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
They ARE great games. However, when Chaminade wins those games, the public school parents says "well Chaminade should win. they actively recruit and have 1700 lacrosse players at its disposal." When Chaminade loses those competitive games, the public school parents go nuts and say "Chaminade s*cks, they can't even beat little ol West Islip."
What did Chaminade say last year when they played WM?
Chaminade said the same exact thing that WM said when they played in 2014.
2014? Living in the past!
Ummm... Isn't 2015 also the past?
Your team will always be judged by the most recent game played. That's how it generally works.
Ok. WM -- a team that included a senior attackman who was arguably one of the top five players in the country -- beat Chaminade by two goals. You got me. Chaminade s*cks because they lost to a little town team (with one of the finest lacrosse traditions in the U.S.). You are right. Chaminade s*cks.
Nobody said the sucked, only that they were beat by a fine public program the last time they played. Easy there! It has turned into a great rivalry. A game that is looked forward to! Who knows, maybe this,year Cham will reclaim the bragging rights!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody said the sucked, only that they were beat by a fine public program the last time they played. Easy there! It has turned into a great rivalry. A game that is looked forward to! Who knows, maybe this,year Cham will reclaim the bragging rights!
Hope not, sick of the express a hammy connection and the phones parents.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody said the sucked, only that they were beat by a fine public program the last time they played. Easy there! It has turned into a great rivalry. A game that is looked forward to! Who knows, maybe this,year Cham will reclaim the bragging rights!
Hope not, sick of the express a hammy connection and the phones parents.
Can you hurt you hammy when you are on the phone? Or does Channy just hurt your wallet?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody said the sucked, only that they were beat by a fine public program the last time they played. Easy there! It has turned into a great rivalry. A game that is looked forward to! Who knows, maybe this,year Cham will reclaim the bragging rights!
Hope not, sick of the express a hammy connection and the phones parents.
Can you hurt you hammy when you are on the phone? Or does Channy just hurt your wallet?
How about the cost for the "event" in MD for the 2024 B team. 150 bucks extra I heard! That is too much.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody said the sucked, only that they were beat by a fine public program the last time they played. Easy there! It has turned into a great rivalry. A game that is looked forward to! Who knows, maybe this,year Cham will reclaim the bragging rights!
Hope not, sick of the express a hammy connection and the phones parents.
Can you hurt you hammy when you are on the phone? Or does Channy just hurt your wallet?
Welcome to club lax [lacrosse]. Get out now while u still have a few bucks in your pocket.
How about the cost for the "event" in MD for the 2024 B team. 150 bucks extra I heard! That is too much.
You have to play for Express if you want to go to a Catholic, so they have you trapped.
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You have to play for Express if you want to go to a Catholic, so they have you trapped.
You Play express if your boarder line to make team in 9th and JV- Kid never see's field then gets cut on varsity because summer checks are done. If your kid play elsewhere but is good, he will play. Look at SA and Cham 9th Grade roster the Bottom 15-20 kids all Play express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You Play express if your boarder line to make team in 9th and JV- Kid never see's field then gets cut on varsity because summer checks are done. If your kid play elsewhere but is good, he will play. Look at SA and Cham 9th Grade roster the Bottom 15-20 kids all Play express.
Yup
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have to play for Express if you want to go to a Catholic, so they have you trapped.
The 91 kids have and are taking over the Catholics. They are simply better players!
Good players light on the books.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You Play express if your boarder line to make team in 9th and JV- Kid never see's field then gets cut on varsity because summer checks are done. If your kid play elsewhere but is good, he will play. Look at SA and Cham 9th Grade roster the Bottom 15-20 kids all Play express.
Yup
A lot of the top 15-20 play Express too.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]You Play express if your boarder line to make team in 9th and JV- Kid never see's field then gets cut on varsity because summer checks are done. If your kid play elsewhere but is good, he will play. Look at SA and Cham 9th Grade roster the Bottom 15-20 kids all Play express.
Yup
A lot of the top 15-20 play Express too
less than half the kids who got legit playing time for Chaminade last year played Express. It simply is a myth that you have to play Express to get on the field at Chaminade. A complete myth
I don't know Mike C of express personally but thought I would share a funny story and probably validate why so many on this board have shared distasteful comments. A parent I know whose son plays on Express is going to a tournament in Maryland at the Landon school this weekend. Each player is being charged a $120 tournament registration fee even though on the tournament website it states that the cost to register a full team is just $450. So, after the first 4 players, it simply profit for what shouldn't be a revenue producing event. Don't know how many kids on the team but assume 20+ which would mean a $2000 profit into Mike C's pocket for doing nothing except registering his team. Can anyone confirm this because if true, just disgusting. Assume that is the behavior the moderator was referring to. Hard to for Mike C to defend himself or the program if accurate though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know Mike C of express personally but thought I would share a funny story and probably validate why so many on this board have shared distasteful comments. A parent I know whose son plays on Express is going to a tournament in Maryland at the Landon school this weekend. Each player is being charged a $120 tournament registration fee even though on the tournament website it states that the cost to register a full team is just $450. So, after the first 4 players, it simply profit for what shouldn't be a revenue producing event. Don't know how many kids on the team but assume 20+ which would mean a $2000 profit into Mike C's pocket for doing nothing except registering his team. Can anyone confirm this because if true, just disgusting. Assume that is the behavior the moderator was referring to. Hard to for Mike C to defend himself or the program if accurate though.
Not involved with this team nor express... but when you have these events the coaches sleep over and that expense gets paid by the team.
Like everything you look at in life, if you just concentrate on the shallows of the situation the water doesn't look that deep. But those who realize there is more to each situation realize nothing is really that shallow and protect themselves from being in over their head.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know Mike C of express personally but thought I would share a funny story and probably validate why so many on this board have shared distasteful comments. A parent I know whose son plays on Express is going to a tournament in Maryland at the Landon school this weekend. Each player is being charged a $120 tournament registration fee even though on the tournament website it states that the cost to register a full team is just $450. So, after the first 4 players, it simply profit for what shouldn't be a revenue producing event. Don't know how many kids on the team but assume 20+ which would mean a $2000 profit into Mike C's pocket for doing nothing except registering his team. Can anyone confirm this because if true, just disgusting. Assume that is the behavior the moderator was referring to. Hard to for Mike C to defend himself or the program if accurate though.
Confirmed, except it's $125 per kid to play. Crazy thing is he could have just charged each team playing $50 more to make the $2000 profit but he decided to screw his own players instead.
but hey you got a group rate for the hotel.....haha
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but hey you got a group rate for the hotel.....haha
How nice...
that's funny....AND make sure to pick up your new express GEAR
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but hey you got a group rate for the hotel.....haha
Group rates are often more than the regular rate since they slip the coaches rooms into the "Special" rate. There, they screw the players again!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
but hey you got a group rate for the hotel.....haha
Group rates are often more than the regular rate since they slip the coaches rooms into the "Special" rate. There, they screw the players again!
I have never understood this argument. Club lacrosse is a business like any other. Does it involve students? Sure. But so does SAT training and cello lessons. If you don't like it, don't pay for it. But to criticize Mike C for being a good businessman doesn't make much sense.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
but hey you got a group rate for the hotel.....haha
Group rates are often more than the regular rate since they slip the coaches rooms into the "Special" rate. There, they screw the players again!
My son is long gone from the club scene but back about 5 years ago with the Express, all tournaments were included in the annual fee including tournaments that were not part of the summer circuit. Why don't they go back to that? They'd have the same money in their pockets but their customers wouldn't feel the knife in their back twisting more than for one big check at the annual meeting. Not a good business model to remind your customers more than once how painful it is to be part of his program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]You Play express if your boarder line to make team in 9th and JV- Kid never see's field then gets cut on varsity because summer checks are done. If your kid play elsewhere but is good, he will play. Look at SA and Cham 9th Grade roster the Bottom 15-20 kids all Play express.
Yup
A lot of the top 15-20 play Express too
less than half the kids who got legit playing time for Chaminade last year played Express. It simply is a myth that you have to play Express to get on the field at Chaminade. A complete myth
A myth? You just said less than half, 40 % maybe? Sounds like a lot of kids from one team to me. I think you have proven the point! You gotta pay Express to play.
I'm getting so sick of reading these posts from people who aren't on the team and don't have the facts, but feel they should post. I've posted and only 1/2 my posts actually get posted! I have no idea why that is. Our Express team has a total of 9 tournaments this year and this was the only one with an additional fee. Never have I been on a club lacrosse team and had this many tournaments plus a ton of fall practices and a ton of extra spring practices thrown in for free because the coaches want to get us ready. So I really don't think the extra $125 for this one tournament is a big deal. Enough with he bashing when you have no clue what you are talking about.
As far as the hotel - if you don't like it stay at another one. Doesn't take rocket science.
As far as the hotel - if you don't like it stay at another one. Doesn't take rocket science.
How about club teams STOP playing tournaments period and just play each other every weekend, or nights during the week. They could play on level turf fields in Long Island against exceptional talent. No travel to NJ or Pennsylvania to play on fields sloped like a ski jump with hotels and all the other nonsense. Will never understand this aspect of club lacrosse. There are plenty of teams here, and each club could play each other multiple times, creates something called a rivalry. Just my two cents!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know Mike C of express personally but thought I would share a funny story and probably validate why so many on this board have shared distasteful comments. A parent I know whose son plays on Express is going to a tournament in Maryland at the Landon school this weekend. Each player is being charged a $120 tournament registration fee even though on the tournament website it states that the cost to register a full team is just $450. So, after the first 4 players, it simply profit for what shouldn't be a revenue producing event. Don't know how many kids on the team but assume 20+ which would mean a $2000 profit into Mike C's pocket for doing nothing except registering his team. Can anyone confirm this because if true, just disgusting. Assume that is the behavior the moderator was referring to. Hard to for Mike C to defend himself or the program if accurate though.
Confirmed, except it's $125 per kid to play. Crazy thing is he could have just charged each team playing $50 more to make the $2000 profit but he decided to screw his own players instead.
I never thought I would defend this guy but you have to pay coaches, their travel expenses, hotels and meals. That all costs money. And he is also in business to make money. That's how this works. You don't get mad at the plumber who charges you 200 dollars for the pipe that cost 8 at Home Depot. You are paying for a service. If you could do it without anyone else , you would. I could write a book on other negative things to say about him, but this isn't one of them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know Mike C of express personally but thought I would share a funny story and probably validate why so many on this board have shared distasteful comments. A parent I know whose son plays on Express is going to a tournament in Maryland at the Landon school this weekend. Each player is being charged a $120 tournament registration fee even though on the tournament website it states that the cost to register a full team is just $450. So, after the first 4 players, it simply profit for what shouldn't be a revenue producing event. Don't know how many kids on the team but assume 20+ which would mean a $2000 profit into Mike C's pocket for doing nothing except registering his team. Can anyone confirm this because if true, just disgusting. Assume that is the behavior the moderator was referring to. Hard to for Mike C to defend himself or the program if accurate though.
Confirmed, except it's $125 per kid to play. Crazy thing is he could have just charged each team playing $50 more to make the $2000 profit but he decided to screw his own players instead.
I never thought I would defend this guy but you have to pay coaches, their travel expenses, hotels and meals. That all costs money. And he is also in business to make money. That's how this works. You don't get mad at the plumber who charges you 200 dollars for the pipe that cost 8 at Home Depot. You are paying for a service. If you could do it without anyone else , you would. I could write a book on other negative things to say about him, but this isn't one of them.
I agree with you 100% the only other thing I would add is this. Why is it always about MC? there are 3 other partners who share in the profit and they are head coaches of HS Varsity teams, why o hate for them? $ 0.25 profit of every dollar goes in each of their pockets
It is a business. All of these clubs are. Nobody is coaching for free. This is America. Other clubs owners are making $, but according to this blog it seems like MC is the only club owner making $. A lot of disgruntled Daddy's twist things to make MC look worse bc their son couldn't measure up or succeed on his team. Come on parents. Grow up
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It is a business. All of these clubs are. Nobody is coaching for free. This is America. Other clubs owners are making $, but according to this blog it seems like MC is the only club owner making $. A lot of disgruntled Daddy's twist things to make MC look worse bc their son couldn't measure up or succeed on his team. Come on parents. Grow up
If he wasn't so sleazy in everything else he does nobody would pay any attention to this stuff.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is a business. All of these clubs are. Nobody is coaching for free. This is America. Other clubs owners are making $, but according to this blog it seems like MC is the only club owner making $. A lot of disgruntled Daddy's twist things to make MC look worse bc their son couldn't measure up or succeed on his team. Come on parents. Grow up
If he wasn't so sleazy in everything else he does nobody would pay any attention to this stuff.
It cracks me up that he walks around St Anthony's like he owns the place.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You Play express if your boarder line to make team in 9th and JV- Kid never see's field then gets cut on varsity because summer checks are done. If your kid play elsewhere but is good, he will play. Look at SA and Cham 9th Grade roster the Bottom 15-20 kids all Play express.
Yup
A lot of the top 15-20 play Express too
less than half the kids who got legit playing time for Chaminade last year played Express. It simply is a myth that you have to play Express to get on the field at Chaminade. A complete myth
A myth? You just said less than half, 40 % maybe? Sounds like a lot of kids from one team to me. I think you have proven the point! You gotta pay Express to play.
Of the 17 kids who got legit playing time last year (2 goalies, 3 attack, 3 mids, 2 SSDMs, 6 poles, FOGO), only five played Express. Myth.
my son is on Express, im happy with the way its run. period.
For most of the people disparaging MC or any other profiteers, your animosity is displaced. Blame yourselves and every other parent chasing the dream. Because unless they hacked into your bank accounts, you willingly padded their retirement accounts.
The BEST post ever!...we are all culpable n this travel scam. We who continue to write the checks and swipe the CC...We who ALL believe that our son/daughter is going to college for free...We created the Monster that is travel lax greed...as guilty as the next one of you...
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The BEST post ever!...we are all culpable n this travel scam. We who continue to write the checks and swipe the CC...We who ALL believe that our son/daughter is going to college for free...We created the Monster that is travel lax greed...as guilty as the next one of you...
All that is true. That doesn't make him any less of a sleazebag.
That's right. Everyone know what they're doing. And when your son doesn't meet up to your expectations it's, blame the coach/club. Enjoy watching your son. My son plays Express. He is happy there, which is what matters to me. Maybe someday he will play in college, maybe he won't. There are no dreams of scholarships. We plan to pay for his education. Get a reality check people. It always seems these Dads are not happy, but the son is fine, so leave it alone.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You Play express if your boarder line to make team in 9th and JV- Kid never see's field then gets cut on varsity because summer checks are done. If your kid play elsewhere but is good, he will play. Look at SA and Cham 9th Grade roster the Bottom 15-20 kids all Play express.
Yup
A lot of the top 15-20 play Express too
less than half the kids who got legit playing time for Chaminade last year played Express. It simply is a myth that you have to play Express to get on the field at Chaminade. A complete myth
A myth? You just said less than half, 40 % maybe? Sounds like a lot of kids from one team to me. I think you have proven the point! You gotta pay Express to play.
Of the 17 kids who got legit playing time last year (2 goalies, 3 attack, 3 mids, 2 SSDMs, 6 poles, FOGO), only five played Express. Myth.
5 out of 17 is 30%...from one team? NOT A MYTH, a FACT.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm getting so sick of reading these posts from people who aren't on the team and don't have the facts, but feel they should post. I've posted and only 1/2 my posts actually get posted! I have no idea why that is. Our Express team has a total of 9 tournaments this year and this was the only one with an additional fee. Never have I been on a club lacrosse team and had this many tournaments plus a ton of fall practices and a ton of extra spring practices thrown in for free because the coaches want to get us ready. So I really don't think the extra $125 for this one tournament is a big deal. Enough with he bashing when you have no clue what you are talking about.
As far as the hotel - if you don't like it stay at another one. Doesn't take rocket science.
As far as the hotel - if you don't like it stay at another one. Doesn't take rocket science.
"Never have I been on a club" ???? are you on the team or are you the team Mommy?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know Mike C of express personally but thought I would share a funny story and probably validate why so many on this board have shared distasteful comments. A parent I know whose son plays on Express is going to a tournament in Maryland at the Landon school this weekend. Each player is being charged a $120 tournament registration fee even though on the tournament website it states that the cost to register a full team is just $450. So, after the first 4 players, it simply profit for what shouldn't be a revenue producing event. Don't know how many kids on the team but assume 20+ which would mean a $2000 profit into Mike C's pocket for doing nothing except registering his team. Can anyone confirm this because if true, just disgusting. Assume that is the behavior the moderator was referring to. Hard to for Mike C to defend himself or the program if accurate though.
it doesn't all go to MC, it goes to the club and there are several directors and back end people, we are not on express but from what i can tell, it's pretty standard with majority of the clubs.
It is a business....do just do your due diligence. Competitors are running summer camps (BS with non lax play time) for $450/week for kids as young as 1st grade. I've seen "college road tours", all sorts of gear for sale, mark ups on hotels, showcase for 7th graders, double price for boys lax when compared to girls and on and on it goes. They all do it. It is often profoundly unfair and you feel like if you don't pony up they may take it out on your kid next tryout season. Those who've been through this before know there is no loyalty. These clubs will take every dollar you got, cut your kid and then go home and sleep like a baby. It is what it is: a business. At least until our next election, this is still America. So if you don't like it don't support them. Otherwise just hold your nose and keep swiping your credit card like the rest of us.
All the daddy's whining about MC are angry bc their son wasn't good enough. That simple. They probably bounce their kid from club to club.
I said my son is on the team. I'm not a 10 year old posting.
And mom or dad what is the difference. When my older boy played travel lacrosse (not town) we called it "club". That's all you got from my post? Figures.
And mom or dad what is the difference. When my older boy played travel lacrosse (not town) we called it "club". That's all you got from my post? Figures.
Its a business, like every other club, like everything in this world. Its all about making money. My local bar is 7 bucks a beer. I can buy a case at supermarket for 17 bucks. Its the same thing with club lax, club any sport actually. My opinion if you feel you are getting good value for your money, great. Good for you. If your not ,come august tryout somewhere else or just go PAL. Its that simple.
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I said my son is on the team. I'm not a 10 year old posting.
And mom or dad what is the difference. When my older boy played travel lacrosse (not town) we called it "club". That's all you got from my post? Figures.
And mom or dad what is the difference. When my older boy played travel lacrosse (not town) we called it "club". That's all you got from my post? Figures.
OK team Mommy....
My son was on one of the lesser Express teams a couple of years back. Although we were told they would practice twice a week, there was NEVER a practice. The games were terrible as the kids did not even know each other and were resentful. I actually gave a lot of thought to calling the Better Business Bureau for Fraud, but I know Jack Moran and did not want to go down this road. IT is ok in my book to make a buck, but to put 100% of your focus on your best team, and use the lessor teams to pad your wallet and not meet what you advertise to young teenagers that want to play the game over the summer, I view as theft.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son was on one of the lesser Express teams a couple of years back. Although we were told they would practice twice a week, there was NEVER a practice. The games were terrible as the kids did not even know each other and were resentful. I actually gave a lot of thought to calling the Better Business Bureau for Fraud, but I know Jack Moran and did not want to go down this road. IT is ok in my book to make a buck, but to put 100% of your focus on your best team, and use the lessor teams to pad your wallet and not meet what you advertise to young teenagers that want to play the game over the summer, I view as theft.
Wow. This is shocking news! You must of have been on ANY B , c or d team express has EVER had!!
I actually don't think they make cuts. Everyones checks is good. At least for a year!
We all know kids "playing" on the A teams that have NO business even being on the field. If you line the right pockets your child miraculously gets on an A team. It is no different than anything else in life !!!
The above statement is factual, certainly for '20 Terp team. Trying to find a positive in this, at least loyalty can be bought.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son was on one of the lesser Express teams a couple of years back. Although we were told they would practice twice a week, there was NEVER a practice. The games were terrible as the kids did not even know each other and were resentful. I actually gave a lot of thought to calling the Better Business Bureau for Fraud, but I know Jack Moran and did not want to go down this road. IT is ok in my book to make a buck, but to put 100% of your focus on your best team, and use the lessor teams to pad your wallet and not meet what you advertise to young teenagers that want to play the game over the summer, I view as theft.
So did you complain to Jack? Did you pull your kid from the team at least?
are you the guy who went around telling everyone that since moran was coach that the team was as good as the A team ?
My kid was on Express 2021, team two year ago in the Fall. They charged us $850,00 for
3 tournaments and six practices, the 3 tournaments all together cost $2,000 to enter.
Talk about a profit.
3 tournaments and six practices, the 3 tournaments all together cost $2,000 to enter.
Talk about a profit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid was on Express 2021, team two year ago in the Fall. They charged us $850,00 for
3 tournaments and six practices, the 3 tournaments all together cost $2,000 to enter.
Talk about a profit.
3 tournaments and six practices, the 3 tournaments all together cost $2,000 to enter.
Talk about a profit.
Can we just stop the money nonsense, this has been beaten to death, over and over, time and time again. All the clubs do it, some more than others but you need to remember all the backend costs for some of the organizations. We were express couple of years, learned a lot, paid a lot. Move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid was on Express 2021, team two year ago in the Fall. They charged us $850,00 for
3 tournaments and six practices, the 3 tournaments all together cost $2,000 to enter.
Talk about a profit.
3 tournaments and six practices, the 3 tournaments all together cost $2,000 to enter.
Talk about a profit.
Were you ever lied to? As long as they told you what you were getting for $850 and honored what they promised, don't come here to complain. You willingly paid the money. Don't complain that they made a profit.
Have news for you....as long as everyone is willing to pay, costs will go up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The above statement is factual, certainly for '20 Terp team. Trying to find a positive in this, at least loyalty can be bought.
Great Coaches, Parents and Kids on that team- you would be lucky to be a part of it.
Congrats to 2022 Express tied Smash in last weekend tournament which knocked Smash out.
Go away troll. Not an Express parent
Congratulations united for beating express and winning championship last weekend.
Has express really gone down hill? The teams at fl$ tournament were awful.
Seems the Express is on the decline. Not used to seeing LIE HS teams schooled by other club teams. The talent is disbursed among many club teams now. Especially with a certain other club team taking over the management of their programs.
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Seems the Express is on the decline. Not used to seeing LIE HS teams schooled by other club teams. The talent is disbursed among many club teams now. Especially with a certain other club team taking over the management of their programs.
Fishes rot from the head down.
The results from this weekend adrenaline were poor. 2018 may have had best showing. 2020.2017, 2019 all not good.
The 2022 / 2021 B teams that played in mitchell field were horrible. 2021 were using a goalie from the other team. A father on that team said they never had a Goalie for this year. Parents pay for this crap.
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The 2022 / 2021 B teams that played in mitchell field were horrible. 2021 were using a goalie from the other team. A father on that team said they never had a Goalie for this year. Parents pay for this crap.
part of the problem is people refuse to play on a "B" team. they go to an "A" team in a B division and think somehow it's a better team. you have to play what's best for your child but the B teams suffer the most. it does have to be looked at better.
the Express 20 team is definitely not a BAD team. Are they the BEST? No, definitely not. Are there few kids that will definitely go D1 one day, absolutely and they are in the conversation for top 10 in the country. Easy with the hyperbole. And like all teams, there are a few painful parents and punk kids--and plenty of good nice ones as well.
Meanwhile the 2022 kids have won 4 championships in 5 weekends! The program is absolute garbage! SMH
17 kids on the sidelines....27 kids on a team is a little much. parents have to understand that if you are not the top 13 kids you are not going to play on MCs 2022 team. Yes they are very good buy buyer beware...
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17 kids on the sidelines....27 kids on a team is a little much. parents have to understand that if you are not the top 13 kids you are not going to play on MCs 2022 team. Yes they are very good buy buyer beware...
The parents know that but would rather say they are on the A team even if they don't play. The B team would have been one of the best around if dad's egos weren't involved.
Probably right
This is the problem with most club teams - carrying too many players on the team. The max should be 20/22 players - this way everyone plays. The better players get more time & the reserves get decent playing time. If it is a matter of money - then play one less tournament.
My son plays for express. Starting to realize very quickly that a lot of rvc parents are complete assholes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son plays for express. Starting to realize very quickly that a lot of rvc parents are complete assholes
doubt anyone from that team would make such a statement. parents and kids get along great!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son plays for express. Starting to realize very quickly that a lot of rvc parents are complete assholes
Yeah, I'm sure you do. what town are you from? Can probably say the same about your town, or any town. But your bias or issue has nothing to do with it right?
No schedule for this weekend? Come on, let's get it together.
What is this Committed 2017 team that is playing at Crabfeast? Is it basically another name for the Turtles, or are these different kids?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son plays for express. Starting to realize very quickly that a lot of rvc parents are complete assholes
doubt anyone from that team would make such a statement. parents and kids get along great!!
Plenty of Express teams with multiple RVC kids- why would you guess it is your the OP is speaking of?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son plays for express. Starting to realize very quickly that a lot of rvc parents are complete assholes
doubt anyone from that team would make such a statement. parents and kids get along great!!
Plenty of Express teams with multiple RVC kids- why would you guess it is your the OP is speaking of?
RVC kids don't play for their town, they play for the lord and MC for that ticket to Chaminade.
Trying to decide where to put the $$ down in 2021. Heard a rumor that the 2021 Express coach (the guy who also coaches at West Islip) got so hammered Saturday night at Big 4 in Philly that he missed the entire slate of games on Sunday. Was puking in his hotel room all day...allegedly. Heard kids were laughing about it at practice the following week. Can anybody confirm or deny this? If true, this is pathetic. Way to set an example for the boys! Quality and character of the coaches is the most important thing at this age. Any insights appreciated.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Trying to decide where to put the $$ down in 2021. Heard a rumor that the 2021 Express coach (the guy who also coaches at West Islip) got so hammered Saturday night at Big 4 in Philly that he missed the entire slate of games on Sunday. Was puking in his hotel room all day...allegedly. Heard kids were laughing about it at practice the following week. Can anybody confirm or deny this? If true, this is pathetic. Way to set an example for the boys! Quality and character of the coaches is the most important thing at this age. Any insights appreciated.
Don't believe the BS. He's one of the best coaches out there. I would have my son play for him anyday.
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What is this Committed 2017 team that is playing at Crabfeast? Is it basically another name for the Turtles, or are these different kids?
Well it's basically most of the best 2017s on LI...
Does he have kid on team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Trying to decide where to put the $$ down in 2021. Heard a rumor that the 2021 Express coach (the guy who also coaches at West Islip) got so hammered Saturday night at Big 4 in Philly that he missed the entire slate of games on Sunday. Was puking in his hotel room all day...allegedly. Heard kids were laughing about it at practice the following week. Can anybody confirm or deny this? If true, this is pathetic. Way to set an example for the boys! Quality and character of the coaches is the most important thing at this age. Any insights appreciated.
Story is accurate. Idiotic? Yes. Bad judgement? Yes. Good lacrosse coach? Yes.
Have you been to one of his practice. Waste of time.
Is Express trying to pull off 4 teams @ 2020 this year? Did they take a full team over from another club?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Trying to decide where to put the $$ down in 2021. Heard a rumor that the 2021 Express coach (the guy who also coaches at West Islip) got so hammered Saturday night at Big 4 in Philly that he missed the entire slate of games on Sunday. Was puking in his hotel room all day...allegedly. Heard kids were laughing about it at practice the following week. Can anybody confirm or deny this? If true, this is pathetic. Way to set an example for the boys! Quality and character of the coaches is the most important thing at this age. Any insights appreciated.
Story is accurate. Idiotic? Yes. Bad judgement? Yes. Good lacrosse coach? Yes.
If true, that is a disgrace. If it is right person I'm thinking of, he isn't a kid right out of college. He is 48 yrs old and has kid on the team. Great example to set for the kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Trying to decide where to put the $$ down in 2021. Heard a rumor that the 2021 Express coach (the guy who also coaches at West Islip) got so hammered Saturday night at Big 4 in Philly that he missed the entire slate of games on Sunday. Was puking in his hotel room all day...allegedly. Heard kids were laughing about it at practice the following week. Can anybody confirm or deny this? If true, this is pathetic. Way to set an example for the boys! Quality and character of the coaches is the most important thing at this age. Any insights appreciated.
Story is accurate. Idiotic? Yes. Bad judgement? Yes. Good lacrosse coach? Yes.
If true, that is a disgrace. If it is right person I'm thinking of, he isn't a kid right out of college. He is 48 yrs old and has kid on the team. Great example to set for the kids.
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Trying to decide where to put the $$ down in 2021. Heard a rumor that the 2021 Express coach (the guy who also coaches at West Islip) got so hammered Saturday night at Big 4 in Philly that he missed the entire slate of games on Sunday. Was puking in his hotel room all day...allegedly. Heard kids were laughing about it at practice the following week. Can anybody confirm or deny this? If true, this is pathetic. Way to set an example for the boys! Quality and character of the coaches is the most important thing at this age. Any insights appreciated.
Story is accurate. Idiotic? Yes. Bad judgement? Yes. Good lacrosse coach? Yes.
If true, that is a disgrace. If it is right person I'm thinking of, he isn't a kid right out of college. He is 48 yrs old and has kid on the team. Great example to set for the kids.
So that makes it ok? You think that the players don't know about it. The guy gets so juiced that he is out of it for the entire next day and the kids don't know. Some example to set for them. I would pull my kid so fast everyone's head would spin. It is completely unacceptable and disgusting behavior.
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Trying to decide where to put the $$ down in 2021. Heard a rumor that the 2021 Express coach (the guy who also coaches at West Islip) got so hammered Saturday night at Big 4 in Philly that he missed the entire slate of games on Sunday. Was puking in his hotel room all day...allegedly. Heard kids were laughing about it at practice the following week. Can anybody confirm or deny this? If true, this is pathetic. Way to set an example for the boys! Quality and character of the coaches is the most important thing at this age. Any insights appreciated.
Story is accurate. Idiotic? Yes. Bad judgement? Yes. Good lacrosse coach? Yes.
If true, that is a disgrace. If it is right person I'm thinking of, he isn't a kid right out of college. He is 48 yrs old and has kid on the team. Great example to set for the kids.
So that makes it ok? You think that the players don't know about it. The guy gets so juiced that he is out of it for the entire next day and the kids don't know. Some example to set for them. I would pull my kid so fast everyone's head would spin. It is completely unacceptable and disgusting behavior.
Who cares, if he got drunk. How many times did you get drunk in front of your kid or how many parents get drunk in front of their kids. Give the guy a break, he's an awesome coach and an great guy.
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Trying to decide where to put the $$ down in 2021. Heard a rumor that the 2021 Express coach (the guy who also coaches at West Islip) got so hammered Saturday night at Big 4 in Philly that he missed the entire slate of games on Sunday. Was puking in his hotel room all day...allegedly. Heard kids were laughing about it at practice the following week. Can anybody confirm or deny this? If true, this is pathetic. Way to set an example for the boys! Quality and character of the coaches is the most important thing at this age. Any insights appreciated.
Story is accurate. Idiotic? Yes. Bad judgement? Yes. Good lacrosse coach? Yes.
If true, that is a disgrace. If it is right person I'm thinking of, he isn't a kid right out of college. He is 48 yrs old and has kid on the team. Great example to set for the kids.
So that makes it ok? You think that the players don't know about it. The guy gets so juiced that he is out of it for the entire next day and the kids don't know. Some example to set for them. I would pull my kid so fast everyone's head would spin. It is completely unacceptable and disgusting behavior.
Who cares, if he got drunk. How many times did you get drunk in front of your kid or how many parents get drunk in front of their kids. Give the guy a break, he's an awesome coach and an great guy.
WOW!! That's telling.
Such a great guy lol. You should all have him watch the kids so you can go out.
I heard his name mentioned as a contender for the HS HC job when the time comes. I hope not.
Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw the coach pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
Completely inappropriate behavior for a coach. Horrible example from the boys, except for the white trash dads who feel like it's no big deal. Prob the same dads who let kids underage drink at their house.
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I heard his name mentioned as a contender for the HS HC job when the time comes. I hope not.
Well....Many coaches I've dealt with over the years have done the same. Seems they think it't a chance to get away from their wives and go hog wild!
he was probably hanging out with the dads.
Did he miss games he was suppose to coach at? If so, THEN I would care. And if he did it on a regular basis. But if it was one time, give the guy a break. He doesn't need to be trashed here. Like none of you have ever made that mistake?! Yes, he's a coach but it it was a one time occurrence, let it go.
48 years old and so drunk you vomit? that my friend is indefensible
xavxuy
Exactly. It's not like he's a 23 year old coach. Unacceptable.
Was it the first time? If so, give him a break! If repeated then different.
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Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw the coach pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
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48 years old and so drunk you vomit? that my friend is indefensible
Well, maybe he has a real drinking problem and needs real help. Alcoholism is a disease that devastate families and claim lives.
Hey all seirousness .
You complain and think by coming on here to bash an assistant coach that will either get retribution for your kid getting cut or your kid making the team but not liking the coach which either case very obvious of that.
As an adult have more class and stop being the whiny [lacrosse] wash woman that so many lax parents have become.
To top matters off let's talk about the head coach ? Mc ?? Where was this iconic in his own mind salesman ??
You rant and rave about the assistant coach sick in hotel room with a hangover but ask where has MC been during the season ??? when he's listed as head coach ? How many times has JH taken charge of this team during the season ?? Get a life and get your story straight on what really matters ..you buy into MC and get just a name on paper .
quote=Anonymous]Did he miss games he was suppose to coach at? If so, THEN I would care. And if he did it on a regular basis. But if it was one time, give the guy a break. He doesn't need to be trashed here. Like none of you have ever made that mistake?! Yes, he's a coach but it it was a one time occurrence, let it go. [/quote]
You complain and think by coming on here to bash an assistant coach that will either get retribution for your kid getting cut or your kid making the team but not liking the coach which either case very obvious of that.
As an adult have more class and stop being the whiny [lacrosse] wash woman that so many lax parents have become.
To top matters off let's talk about the head coach ? Mc ?? Where was this iconic in his own mind salesman ??
You rant and rave about the assistant coach sick in hotel room with a hangover but ask where has MC been during the season ??? when he's listed as head coach ? How many times has JH taken charge of this team during the season ?? Get a life and get your story straight on what really matters ..you buy into MC and get just a name on paper .
quote=Anonymous]Did he miss games he was suppose to coach at? If so, THEN I would care. And if he did it on a regular basis. But if it was one time, give the guy a break. He doesn't need to be trashed here. Like none of you have ever made that mistake?! Yes, he's a coach but it it was a one time occurrence, let it go. [/quote]
That's Correct and True . For a team that's suppose to have the holy Grail of Studs , he's never around tournaments when he's listed as a coach for 5 different teams. He associates only with the ones with the biggest wallets and holds onto them ! with an occasional addition of blue collar to do all the dirty work on the field. that is certainly what it looks like from the looks of how the cuts went down. He's a slime and that reflects on the organization , Not an assistant coach who partied a bit to much.
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Hey all seirousness .
You complain and think by coming on here to bash an assistant coach that will either get retribution for your kid getting cut or your kid making the team but not liking the coach which either case very obvious of that.
As an adult have more class and stop being the whiny [lacrosse] wash woman that so many lax parents have become.
To top matters off let's talk about the head coach ? Mc ?? Where was this iconic in his own mind salesman ??
You rant and rave about the assistant coach sick in hotel room with a hangover but ask where has MC been during the season ??? when he's listed as head coach ? How many times has JH taken charge of this team during the season ?? Get a life and get your story straight on what really matters ..you buy into MC and get just a name on paper .
quote=Anonymous]Did he miss games he was suppose to coach at? If so, THEN I would care. And if he did it on a regular basis. But if it was one time, give the guy a break. He doesn't need to be trashed here. Like none of you have ever made that mistake?! Yes, he's a coach but it it was a one time occurrence, let it go.
You complain and think by coming on here to bash an assistant coach that will either get retribution for your kid getting cut or your kid making the team but not liking the coach which either case very obvious of that.
As an adult have more class and stop being the whiny [lacrosse] wash woman that so many lax parents have become.
To top matters off let's talk about the head coach ? Mc ?? Where was this iconic in his own mind salesman ??
You rant and rave about the assistant coach sick in hotel room with a hangover but ask where has MC been during the season ??? when he's listed as head coach ? How many times has JH taken charge of this team during the season ?? Get a life and get your story straight on what really matters ..you buy into MC and get just a name on paper .
quote=Anonymous]Did he miss games he was suppose to coach at? If so, THEN I would care. And if he did it on a regular basis. But if it was one time, give the guy a break. He doesn't need to be trashed here. Like none of you have ever made that mistake?! Yes, he's a coach but it it was a one time occurrence, let it go.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey all seirousness .
You complain and think by coming on here to bash an assistant coach that will either get retribution for your kid getting cut or your kid making the team but not liking the coach which either case very obvious of that.
As an adult have more class and stop being the whiny [lacrosse] wash woman that so many lax parents have become.
To top matters off let's talk about the head coach ? Mc ?? Where was this iconic in his own mind salesman ??
You rant and rave about the assistant coach sick in hotel room with a hangover but ask where has MC been during the season ??? when he's listed as head coach ? How many times has JH taken charge of this team during the season ?? Get a life and get your story straight on what really matters ..you buy into MC and get just a name on paper .
Who are you to call someone a whiny [lacrosse] while you defend this guy? He has nobody to blame but himself. He wound up face down in a toilet bowl when he was supposed to be looking after the kids. The guy is a decent coach - and he has the interpersonal skills of a 2 yr old. And, if your paying the boss thousands of dollars for JH to coach a team with 35 kids on it you have problems. Fishes rot from the head down. Keep on buying into the myth that he's going get get your son recruited - what a joke.
quote=Anonymous]Did he miss games he was suppose to coach at? If so, THEN I would care. And if he did it on a regular basis. But if it was one time, give the guy a break. He doesn't need to be trashed here. Like none of you have ever made that mistake?! Yes, he's a coach but it it was a one time occurrence, let it go.
You complain and think by coming on here to bash an assistant coach that will either get retribution for your kid getting cut or your kid making the team but not liking the coach which either case very obvious of that.
As an adult have more class and stop being the whiny [lacrosse] wash woman that so many lax parents have become.
To top matters off let's talk about the head coach ? Mc ?? Where was this iconic in his own mind salesman ??
You rant and rave about the assistant coach sick in hotel room with a hangover but ask where has MC been during the season ??? when he's listed as head coach ? How many times has JH taken charge of this team during the season ?? Get a life and get your story straight on what really matters ..you buy into MC and get just a name on paper .
Who are you to call someone a whiny [lacrosse] while you defend this guy? He has nobody to blame but himself. He wound up face down in a toilet bowl when he was supposed to be looking after the kids. The guy is a decent coach - and he has the interpersonal skills of a 2 yr old. And, if your paying the boss thousands of dollars for JH to coach a team with 35 kids on it you have problems. Fishes rot from the head down. Keep on buying into the myth that he's going get get your son recruited - what a joke.
quote=Anonymous]Did he miss games he was suppose to coach at? If so, THEN I would care. And if he did it on a regular basis. But if it was one time, give the guy a break. He doesn't need to be trashed here. Like none of you have ever made that mistake?! Yes, he's a coach but it it was a one time occurrence, let it go.
Well this whiny [lacrosse] can tell you the team is listed as 2021 CHANNY . which means CHANNY is the coach of that team. Where has Channy Been?? spending your hopes and dreams money you gave him? Did you actually see this assistant coach face down in toilet ? as I said whiny [lacrosse] washwoman always have something negative to say , take part of the truth or not and make it into a top news story because that's so worth mentioning and yea I guess it must be true if its posted on the internet , that's the motto of paying parents in a travel organization , they can voice whatever they feel like and think that allegations of negligence is an entitlement with the cost of tuition.
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Well this whiny [lacrosse] can tell you the team is listed as 2021 CHANNY . which means CHANNY is the coach of that team. Where has Channy Been?? spending your hopes and dreams money you gave him? Did you actually see this assistant coach face down in toilet ? as I said whiny [lacrosse] washwoman always have something negative to say , take part of the truth or not and make it into a top news story because that's so worth mentioning and yea I guess it must be true if its posted on the internet , that's the motto of paying parents in a travel organization , they can voice whatever they feel like and think that allegations of negligence is an entitlement with the cost of tuition.
You sound like a lawyer - a bad one. The idiot has no one to blame but himself. People pop off on this cesspool about a lot less than that what he did so anyone win half a brain knows it's coming if you give it to them. If you stick up for a loser you must be one too.
Not for nothing but you are all going nuts on something that may or may not have happened. Lemme guess, "I know I heard from so and so", "I saw it myself". With the anonymous nature of this site, what can be proven? That's why there is so much gossip.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not for nothing but you are all going nuts on something that may or may not have happened. Lemme guess, "I know I heard from so and so", "I saw it myself". With the anonymous nature of this site, what can be proven? That's why there is so much gossip.
My son plays on this team. I was there and the story is 100% factual. It was completely weak. Seems like a good guy but just exercised poor judgement on this ocassion. Each person should make their own assessment. All that said, I do think he is a good coach. He is definitely more involved (though less entertaining) than Channy and the other Mr. Invisible - JL (aka "Chop Lift Chop")
did anyone confirm/deny a 4th team @ 2020?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
did anyone confirm/deny a 4th team @ 2020?
You've got to be kidding. Is Leghart coaching that team also?
I've been reading such horror stories of how bad these coaches are since my son played for these so called money hungry coaches and each year they have always been propagated by the parents of the kids who just are not as good as their parents had hoped. These same parents then group together to commiserate about how bad the coaches are when in all actuality it is just that the kids are not up to the skill level of the kids on that years particular "A" team. It is much easier on the ego of these parents to transfer the lack of a particular talent onto someone else's lack of effort.
Perhaps these parents should get up off of their collective *sses and see if they could do better. Coach your own kid when he's not on the practice field. If your kid is playing video games instead of getting on the wall or joining other kids in pick up practices or if you are not having a catch with them as often as possible ; then don't expect the coaches to magically conjure up skills and ability for your kids.
stop blaming others for your child's shortcomings
Perhaps these parents should get up off of their collective *sses and see if they could do better. Coach your own kid when he's not on the practice field. If your kid is playing video games instead of getting on the wall or joining other kids in pick up practices or if you are not having a catch with them as often as possible ; then don't expect the coaches to magically conjure up skills and ability for your kids.
stop blaming others for your child's shortcomings
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey all seirousness .
You complain and think by coming on here to bash an assistant coach that will either get retribution for your kid getting cut or your kid making the team but not liking the coach which either case very obvious of that.
As an adult have more class and stop being the whiny [lacrosse] wash woman that so many lax parents have become.
To top matters off let's talk about the head coach ? Mc ?? Where was this iconic in his own mind salesman ??
You rant and rave about the assistant coach sick in hotel room with a hangover but ask where has MC been during the season ??? when he's listed as head coach ? How many times has JH taken charge of this team during the season ?? Get a life and get your story straight on what really matters ..you buy into MC and get just a name on paper .
so you rant about being classy and then go bash MC. what's classy about that?
quote=Anonymous]Did he miss games he was suppose to coach at? If so, THEN I would care. And if he did it on a regular basis. But if it was one time, give the guy a break. He doesn't need to be trashed here. Like none of you have ever made that mistake?! Yes, he's a coach but it it was a one time occurrence, let it go.
You complain and think by coming on here to bash an assistant coach that will either get retribution for your kid getting cut or your kid making the team but not liking the coach which either case very obvious of that.
As an adult have more class and stop being the whiny [lacrosse] wash woman that so many lax parents have become.
To top matters off let's talk about the head coach ? Mc ?? Where was this iconic in his own mind salesman ??
You rant and rave about the assistant coach sick in hotel room with a hangover but ask where has MC been during the season ??? when he's listed as head coach ? How many times has JH taken charge of this team during the season ?? Get a life and get your story straight on what really matters ..you buy into MC and get just a name on paper .
so you rant about being classy and then go bash MC. what's classy about that?
quote=Anonymous]Did he miss games he was suppose to coach at? If so, THEN I would care. And if he did it on a regular basis. But if it was one time, give the guy a break. He doesn't need to be trashed here. Like none of you have ever made that mistake?! Yes, he's a coach but it it was a one time occurrence, let it go.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've been reading such horror stories of how bad these coaches are since my son played for these so called money hungry coaches and each year they have always been propagated by the parents of the kids who just are not as good as their parents had hoped. These same parents then group together to commiserate about how bad the coaches are when in all actuality it is just that the kids are not up to the skill level of the kids on that years particular "A" team. It is much easier on the ego of these parents to transfer the lack of a particular talent onto someone else's lack of effort.
Perhaps these parents should get up off of their collective *sses and see if they could do better. Coach your own kid when he's not on the practice field. If your kid is playing video games instead of getting on the wall or joining other kids in pick up practices or if you are not having a catch with them as often as possible ; then don't expect the coaches to magically conjure up skills and ability for your kids.
stop blaming others for your child's shortcomings
Perhaps these parents should get up off of their collective *sses and see if they could do better. Coach your own kid when he's not on the practice field. If your kid is playing video games instead of getting on the wall or joining other kids in pick up practices or if you are not having a catch with them as often as possible ; then don't expect the coaches to magically conjure up skills and ability for your kids.
stop blaming others for your child's shortcomings
Easy there mama/papa hen. Nice deflection, but, no.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Express trying to pull off 4 teams @ 2020 this year? Did they take a full team over from another club?
I think everyone makes a team on Express now.
They get a large number of kids trying out. They are doing something right. Not everyone makes a team. They had a massive amount of kids at tryouts.
wasn't trying to deflect the inexcusable drinking issue. that is clearly unacceptable and case closed. but I do take exception to the constant bashing of the head coaches who have helped countless kids become good enough players to gain access to fantastic schools; my kid included. credit must be given where credit is due.
Easy there mama/papa hen. Nice deflection, but, no.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've been reading such horror stories of how bad these coaches are since my son played for these so called money hungry coaches and each year they have always been propagated by the parents of the kids who just are not as good as their parents had hoped. These same parents then group together to commiserate about how bad the coaches are when in all actuality it is just that the kids are not up to the skill level of the kids on that years particular "A" team. It is much easier on the ego of these parents to transfer the lack of a particular talent onto someone else's lack of effort.
Perhaps these parents should get up off of their collective *sses and see if they could do better. Coach your own kid when he's not on the practice field. If your kid is playing video games instead of getting on the wall or joining other kids in pick up practices or if you are not having a catch with them as often as possible ; then don't expect the coaches to magically conjure up skills and ability for your kids.
stop blaming others for your child's shortcomings
Perhaps these parents should get up off of their collective *sses and see if they could do better. Coach your own kid when he's not on the practice field. If your kid is playing video games instead of getting on the wall or joining other kids in pick up practices or if you are not having a catch with them as often as possible ; then don't expect the coaches to magically conjure up skills and ability for your kids.
stop blaming others for your child's shortcomings
Easy there mama/papa hen. Nice deflection, but, no.
Well said .. I think this can go for every travel club out there . ALWAYS A GROUP of parents who gather up on the sideline at practices and tournaments to blame another group of players , or bad coaching for the lack of their kids playtime and lost games. Those are the ones who jump ship each year to a different travel organization. They actually make a name for themselves by doing this , instead of the kid making a name for himself by performance. I would say there are more non realistic parents out there claiming there kid should be a starter and never come off the field then actually good players .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've been reading such horror stories of how bad these coaches are since my son played for these so called money hungry coaches and each year they have always been propagated by the parents of the kids who just are not as good as their parents had hoped. These same parents then group together to commiserate about how bad the coaches are when in all actuality it is just that the kids are not up to the skill level of the kids on that years particular "A" team. It is much easier on the ego of these parents to transfer the lack of a particular talent onto someone else's lack of effort.
Perhaps these parents should get up off of their collective *sses and see if they could do better. Coach your own kid when he's not on the practice field. If your kid is playing video games instead of getting on the wall or joining other kids in pick up practices or if you are not having a catch with them as often as possible ; then don't expect the coaches to magically conjure up skills and ability for your kids.
stop blaming others for your child's shortcomings
Perhaps these parents should get up off of their collective *sses and see if they could do better. Coach your own kid when he's not on the practice field. If your kid is playing video games instead of getting on the wall or joining other kids in pick up practices or if you are not having a catch with them as often as possible ; then don't expect the coaches to magically conjure up skills and ability for your kids.
stop blaming others for your child's shortcomings
Anyone who is on this team knows the truth behind what is said. We have been apart of it for many years and for now it works for my son. But we always have our guard up to be bumped from channy's select group, if you think one day your kid won't be benched because he brings in someone your kidding yourself.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who is on this team knows the truth behind what is said. We have been apart of it for many years and for now it works for my son. But we always have our guard up to be bumped from channy's select group, if you think one day your kid won't be benched because he brings in someone your kidding yourself.
And why shouldn't he, pray tell...?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who is on this team knows the truth behind what is said. We have been apart of it for many years and for now it works for my son. But we always have our guard up to be bumped from channy's select group, if you think one day your kid won't be benched because he brings in someone your kidding yourself.
The kidding of ones self comes from believing that because your son is in a select group that he will always be there. I would say that sets the the child up for an attitude of complacency. Of course there will always be someone coming to challenge for a spot on the elite team and your son better be prepared to compete to maintain his spot everyday.
It's a great life lesson better to be well learned at a young age than later on.
The other side of this is the child who is on the B or C teams. More times than not they will play up to or down to the level of those around them. Unless they can improve significantly; challenging for an A team spot will be difficult. The parents though must realize this and check their egos at the parking lot or be prepared to have a season of angst and ultimately join the disgruntled group that starts coach bashing as a second career.
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They get a large number of kids trying out. They are doing something right. Not everyone makes a team. They had a massive amount of kids at tryouts.
Not true.Less and less every year with this organization.Parents are smartening up with this slickster.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
They get a large number of kids trying out. They are doing something right. Not everyone makes a team. They had a massive amount of kids at tryouts.
Not true.Less and less every year with this organization.Parents are smartening up with this slickster.
Not true
Who are the assistants for schwajle?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
They get a large number of kids trying out. They are doing something right. Not everyone makes a team. They had a massive amount of kids at tryouts.
Not true.Less and less every year with this organization.Parents are smartening up with this slickster.
They basically take everyone and sort them out into 4 or 5 teams later in the fall.
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Who are the assistants for schwajle?
What year
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Who are the assistants for schwajle?
What year
2024
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who is on this team knows the truth behind what is said. We have been apart of it for many years and for now it works for my son. But we always have our guard up to be bumped from channy's select group, if you think one day your kid won't be benched because he brings in someone your kidding yourself.
And why shouldn't he, pray tell...?
At tryouts, no problem. Or if a spot opens on the roster, sure. However, on our team last season the new kids rolled in all year. We had one tourney last year with 10 attackmen??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who is on this team knows the truth behind what is said. We have been apart of it for many years and for now it works for my son. But we always have our guard up to be bumped from channy's select group, if you think one day your kid won't be benched because he brings in someone your kidding yourself.
And why shouldn't he, pray tell...?
At tryouts, no problem. Or if a spot opens on the roster, sure. However, on our team last season the new kids rolled in all year. We had one tourney last year with 10 attackmen??
Even one or two kids I can understand to try something out but 10 new attackmen???? That's insane!! Are you sure you aren't exaggerating? There should only be 6 on a team to begin with (if done right and all good players).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who is on this team knows the truth behind what is said. We have been apart of it for many years and for now it works for my son. But we always have our guard up to be bumped from channy's select group, if you think one day your kid won't be benched because he brings in someone your kidding yourself.
And why shouldn't he, pray tell...?
At tryouts, no problem. Or if a spot opens on the roster, sure. However, on our team last season the new kids rolled in all year. We had one tourney last year with 10 attackmen??
Even one or two kids I can understand to try something out but 10 new attackmen???? That's insane!! Are you sure you aren't exaggerating? There should only be 6 on a team to begin with (if done right and all good players).
Are you really that oblivious to what they do and roster sizes?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who is on this team knows the truth behind what is said. We have been apart of it for many years and for now it works for my son. But we always have our guard up to be bumped from channy's select group, if you think one day your kid won't be benched because he brings in someone your kidding yourself.
And why shouldn't he, pray tell...?
At tryouts, no problem. Or if a spot opens on the roster, sure. However, on our team last season the new kids rolled in all year. We had one tourney last year with 10 attackmen??
My son has played for Express for 3 years and the most they ever added to a team was 2 or 3 players so I guess I am.
Even one or two kids I can understand to try something out but 10 new attackmen???? That's insane!! Are you sure you aren't exaggerating? There should only be 6 on a team to begin with (if done right and all good players).
Are you really that oblivious to what they do and roster sizes?
Why does Express have rosters of 25-27?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why does Express have rosters of 25-27?
Because they are greedy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why does Express have rosters of 25-27?
Because they are greedy
What year? Our team has 22
2022 OReily
2021 Channy had 34 kids
You people are crazy to allow them to put that many kids on a team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 OReily
hahahahahaahahhah Its not like we told you what Express is like. Have fun with 34 on a team and guest players
It might be time to bow out gracefully from Express 2022. Coaching is good, kids are r re all good, but I DID NOT sign up to pay $2800 for this many kids on a roster. I guess the earlier posters were right, buyer be aware.
I know, me too rethinking my commitment to 2022. Way too many kids!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know, me too rethinking my commitment to 2022. Way too many kids!
Talk to the coach. Make sure the roaster you are reading is accurate. O'Reilly doesn't usually take on too many kids. Here may be a reason. Channy.... On the other hand... Good luck with that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It might be time to bow out gracefully from Express 2022. Coaching is good, kids are r re all good, but I DID NOT sign up to pay $2800 for this many kids on a roster. I guess the earlier posters were right, buyer be aware.
Here's another fact: Channy and Wizorac will retire by the time your kid gets to high school.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It might be time to bow out gracefully from Express 2022. Coaching is good, kids are r re all good, but I DID NOT sign up to pay $2800 for this many kids on a roster. I guess the earlier posters were right, buyer be aware.
Here's another fact: Channy and Wizorac will retire by the time your kid gets to high school.
In TWO years?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It might be time to bow out gracefully from Express 2022. Coaching is good, kids are r re all good, but I DID NOT sign up to pay $2800 for this many kids on a roster. I guess the earlier posters were right, buyer be aware.
Here's another fact: Channy and Wizorac will retire by the time your kid gets to high school.
In TWO years?
Your kid is not gettimg to them in 2 years try 3 or 4. But i would doubt they retire that soon anyway
Wieczoerk is not even 50. Get a grip
Another parent here concerned about the 28 kid roster on the 2022 team. People we will walk and they will right back to last year with barely 15 kids ok only with a goalie now. Come on Express, shorten the roster.
Which team are you talking about, Channy or O'Reilly?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another parent here concerned about the 28 kid roster on the 2022 team. People we will walk and they will right back to last year with barely 15 kids ok only with a goalie now. Come on Express, shorten the roster.
I don't think coming on here is the best way to have your concerns heard. Pick up the phone and call them. I am pretty sure he organizational contact info is on the invites and says please contact for any questions or concerns.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another parent here concerned about the 28 kid roster on the 2022 team. People we will walk and they will right back to last year with barely 15 kids ok only with a goalie now. Come on Express, shorten the roster.
I don't think coming on here is the best way to have your concerns heard. Pick up the phone and call them. I am pretty sure he organizational contact info is on the invites and says please contact for any questions or concerns.
Exactly! And talk to your coach DIRECTLY. There is a way to phrase your concerns and they should answer you. Ranting on here is just silly and childish.
Express better get roster straight soon. Cant have visitors come play at the big Tournament in baltimore this summer. National 2022 Championship. No funny business allowed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express better get roster straight soon. Cant have visitors come play at the big Tournament in baltimore this summer. National 2022 Championship. No funny business allowed.
What are you talking about there is no league, it is a tournament. File out a roster sheet and how do you know who is or isnt on it until the day, who cares if they played with them previously. As long as they fit the parameters of the tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express better get roster straight soon. Cant have visitors come play at the big Tournament in baltimore this summer. National 2022 Championship. No funny business allowed.
What are you talking about there is no league, it is a tournament. File out a roster sheet and how do you know who is or isnt on it until the day, who cares if they played with them previously. As long as they fit the parameters of the tournament.
Umm, not sure you read the post correctly or your just drunk..You make no sense in reply to the post. It clearly states it's a National Tournament . Not a league
And the parameters for the tournament are that you can not add players or guests for the tourney. But hey , Cheers to you , drink another
Pick up and call him, he will either tell you a [lacrosse] story until he gets your money and your stuck for the season. If you think it's wrong run before your miserable.
He will tell you anything until you send in the payment and then do what he pleases.
He will tell you anything until you send in the payment and then do what he pleases.
It's a pretty simple math MC works with one kid leaves he has 2 more that wants is spot, so why would he change is ways, and he didn't care about winning anymore.
Do the math people, this club and others are printing money. Its not about what you and your kid wants its about them making insane amounts of money to have kids play a game. They could care less about your roster complaints.
Travel lax is insane and one of the only places where the customer isn't always right! We pay them tons of money and we the consumers still kiss their asses. They know not many will leave and if you do, they will fill your spot in a second
Travel lax is insane and one of the only places where the customer isn't always right! We pay them tons of money and we the consumers still kiss their asses. They know not many will leave and if you do, they will fill your spot in a second
Did Express finish accepting all 2022s? Did they call everyone directly? I didn't see any info posted on their website.
What should a team have for personal
2 goalies
6. Poles
6 attack
9 middies
1 fogo
2 lsm
26 at most?
Team 91 now wants 26 per team, they stated at tryouts
2 goalies
6. Poles
6 attack
9 middies
1 fogo
2 lsm
26 at most?
Team 91 now wants 26 per team, they stated at tryouts
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express better get roster straight soon. Cant have visitors come play at the big Tournament in baltimore this summer. National 2022 Championship. No funny business allowed.
What are you talking about there is no league, it is a tournament. File out a roster sheet and how do you know who is or isnt on it until the day, who cares if they played with them previously. As long as they fit the parameters of the tournament.
Umm, not sure you read the post correctly or your just drunk..You make no sense in reply to the post. It clearly states it's a National Tournament . Not a league
And the parameters for the tournament are that you can not add players or guests for the tourney. But hey , Cheers to you , drink another
Define add players, add them to your roster after the tournaments starts or need to prove they have established themselves on your team because they have played with you prior.
I think you just need to make sure they are on your roster prior to the games. I think people are complaining about that. I feel for you if your son gets bumped I do, but as an opponent go ahead stack your team against mine. We play whom ever you put in front of us. I wont complain as long as they are within the age parameters.
Heck I wont complain if my team losses to a team older than my sons, if we are of equal ability. Isnt that what it is about. Playing and challenging yourself. against what is perceived to be the best.
Yes they did, practices have already started.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know, me too rethinking my commitment to 2022. Way too many kids!
My guess, some kids leave by spring time.
I would be concerned with that many players if your child is one of the least productive player at his position. If your son is the best or middle of the pack, you should be fine.
Coach seems like the real deal, quality coaching should trump playing time. Unfortunately, it never does.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What should a team have for personal
2 goalies
6. Poles
6 attack
9 middies
1 fogo
2 lsm
26 at most?
Team 91 now wants 26 per team, they stated at tryouts
2 goalies
6. Poles
6 attack
9 middies
1 fogo
2 lsm
26 at most?
Team 91 now wants 26 per team, they stated at tryouts
9 middies too much
6 attack too much
6 poles too much
2 lsm yes
But if they lose a middie , attack and a pole , that's almost $10k.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express better get roster straight soon. Cant have visitors come play at the big Tournament in baltimore this summer. National 2022 Championship. No funny business allowed.
What are you talking about there is no league, it is a tournament. File out a roster sheet and how do you know who is or isnt on it until the day, who cares if they played with them previously. As long as they fit the parameters of the tournament.
Umm, not sure you read the post correctly or your just drunk..You make no sense in reply to the post. It clearly states it's a National Tournament . Not a league
And the parameters for the tournament are that you can not add players or guests for the tourney. But hey , Cheers to you , drink another
Define add players, add them to your roster after the tournaments starts or need to prove they have established themselves on your team because they have played with you prior.
I think you just need to make sure they are on your roster prior to the games. I think people are complaining about that. I feel for you if your son gets bumped I do, but as an opponent go ahead stack your team against mine. We play whom ever you put in front of us. I wont complain as long as they are within the age parameters.
Heck I wont complain if my team losses to a team older than my sons, if we are of equal ability. Isnt that what it is about. Playing and challenging yourself. against what is perceived to be the best.
ROSTER VALIDATION
The rising 8th National 2022 championship is trying to ensure we dont have super teams or all-star teams made exclusively for this championship event. All teams are 2022 based and must be part of team that competes year round.
In order to be considered for this Championship the club director must do the following.
Submit a complete roster by Dec 1, 2016. Roster must include players number, full name, school, and birthdate.
Provide a copy of the players report card from the 2016 fall school year.
Provide proof of your spring league (you will need their records for seeding purposes).
Provide a list of all fall 2016/spring 2017 tournaments, and summer schedule.
Pay tournament non refundable deposit $1,000
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What should a team have for personal
2 goalies
6. Poles
6 attack
9 middies
1 fogo
2 lsm
26 at most?
Team 91 now wants 26 per team, they stated at tryouts
2 goalies
6. Poles
6 attack
9 middies
1 fogo
2 lsm
26 at most?
Team 91 now wants 26 per team, they stated at tryouts
9 middies too much
6 attack too much
6 poles too much
2 lsm yes
But if they lose a middie , attack and a pole , that's almost $10k.
It should be:
2 goalies
6 Poles/LSM
5 attack
9 middies
1 fogo
This would be an ideal summer team minus.
how many are on each of the 2023 rosters?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express better get roster straight soon. Cant have visitors come play at the big Tournament in baltimore this summer. National 2022 Championship. No funny business allowed.
What are you talking about there is no league, it is a tournament. File out a roster sheet and how do you know who is or isnt on it until the day, who cares if they played with them previously. As long as they fit the parameters of the tournament.
Umm, not sure you read the post correctly or your just drunk..You make no sense in reply to the post. It clearly states it's a National Tournament . Not a league
And the parameters for the tournament are that you can not add players or guests for the tourney. But hey , Cheers to you , drink another
Define add players, add them to your roster after the tournaments starts or need to prove they have established themselves on your team because they have played with you prior.
I think you just need to make sure they are on your roster prior to the games. I think people are complaining about that. I feel for you if your son gets bumped I do, but as an opponent go ahead stack your team against mine. We play whom ever you put in front of us. I wont complain as long as they are within the age parameters.
Heck I wont complain if my team losses to a team older than my sons, if we are of equal ability. Isnt that what it is about. Playing and challenging yourself. against what is perceived to be the best.
ROSTER VALIDATION
The rising 8th National 2022 championship is trying to ensure we dont have super teams or all-star teams made exclusively for this championship event. All teams are 2022 based and must be part of team that competes year round.
In order to be considered for this Championship the club director must do the following.
Submit a complete roster by Dec 1, 2016. Roster must include players number, full name, school, and birthdate.
Provide a copy of the players report card from the 2016 fall school year.
Provide proof of your spring league (you will need their records for seeding purposes).
Provide a list of all fall 2016/spring 2017 tournaments, and summer schedule.
Pay tournament non refundable deposit $1,000
Spend a ton of money for the likely outcome of 2 long island teams to play each other in the finals.
20 is the right number
2 G
5 Attack
5 poles
7 middies
1 LP middie
2 G
5 Attack
5 poles
7 middies
1 LP middie
Agreed 20 is the perfect number - but it will never happen.
O'Reily 2022 has 6 defense, 2 goals, 9 attach and 11 middies. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to many. Just emailed coaching staff as I am concerned too.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
20 is the right number
2 G
5 Attack
5 poles
7 middies
1 LP middie
2 G
5 Attack
5 poles
7 middies
1 LP middie
Need two Fogo and two Lp when playing 3 games a day in summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
O'Reily 2022 has 6 defense, 2 goals, 9 attach and 11 middies. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to many. Just emailed coaching staff as I am concerned too.
And it's only September. Wait until April!!! Lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
O'Reily 2022 has 6 defense, 2 goals, 9 attach and 11 middies. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to many. Just emailed coaching staff as I am concerned too.
That's insane...9 attackmen in a 40 minute game...why bother. Take your $2800 and go find another team for half the price.
don't forget its running time most tournaments.
that said its not a new roster policy for LIE its gone on forever . you were aware.
you wanted to say "we made A team"! you got it...
that said its not a new roster policy for LIE its gone on forever . you were aware.
you wanted to say "we made A team"! you got it...
I would bet more will suddenly be on team. probably two more. that's gonna be fun.
7 mids when it's 85 deg and humid and the team may play 3+ games/day and/or 5+ over the weekend??! Good luck with that, especially if 1 or 2 go down at all!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
don't forget its running time most tournaments.
that said its not a new roster policy for LIE its gone on forever . you were aware.
you wanted to say "we made A team"! you got it...
that said its not a new roster policy for LIE its gone on forever . you were aware.
you wanted to say "we made A team"! you got it...
That's all true. But that's the B team! Lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
O'Reily 2022 has 6 defense, 2 goals, 9 attach and 11 middies. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to many. Just emailed coaching staff as I am concerned too.
That's insane...9 attackmen in a 40 minute game...why bother. Take your $2800 and go find another team for half the price.
Outlaws is looking for players
Originally Posted by Anonymous
7 mids when it's 85 deg and humid and the team may play 3+ games/day and/or 5+ over the weekend??! Good luck with that, especially if 1 or 2 go down at all!
That's when you bump your extra attackmen up. Kids shouldn't be so specialized that they can't dodge from up top or play a little defense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
7 mids when it's 85 deg and humid and the team may play 3+ games/day and/or 5+ over the weekend??! Good luck with that, especially if 1 or 2 go down at all!
That's when you bump your extra attackmen up. Kids shouldn't be so specialized that they can't dodge from up top or play a little defense.
If you also aren't carrying that many attack or LPs, then you don't have the option of riding those players at other positions under tournament circumstances without then deprecating their play. At 20 players, you've already paired every position down.
You are starting to go to recruiting tournaments , more then 7 middies is to much, kids won't get looks, FYI, most coaches only stay for one half then move on to another game.
Shear panic has now officially set in on this 2022 team. Great!!!!! Outlaws is looking for attack players on what team (Select, Black or Silver?)
If you go on a team with 9 middies in 9th grade , make sure your not on the 3rd line, because you will hardly see the field, coaches want to win in front of college coaches. They will send first line out every chance they can. That is a fact.
depreciating their play? what the [lacrosse] does that mean? that is silly.
that's right / daddy or more likely mommy.... johnny is an attack man and he didn't "join" this team to play anything else. no way he will be recruited if he shows any versatility and willingness to help team.
You are in for a long ride.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
20 is the right number
2 G
5 Attack
5 poles
7 middies
1 LP middie
2 G
5 Attack
5 poles
7 middies
1 LP middie
Need two Fogo and two Lp when playing 3 games a day in summer.
You need 6 attack, 6 def, 2 goalies, 9 middies (2 being face offs). 23/24 is a fair number. Many of times there is a conflict and a no show and you play many games in the heat. 24 is still fair.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shear panic has now officially set in on this 2022 team. Great!!!!! Outlaws is looking for attack players on what team (Select, Black or Silver?)
And the season hasn't even started yet. Just wait till the guest players start showing up.
Outlaws looking for defense and attack?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Outlaws looking for defense and attack?
Midfield and Defense for 2023
I coach PAL and have spoken at with other coaches. Proper team size is 23:
2 lines for Attack
2 lines for Defense
3 lines for Middy (they run more)
2 goalies
Add 1 or 2 extra kids in case school sports, family activities, injuries, kids's quit or just life in general and you have the ideal # of kids on a team.
The backup goalie and 3rd Midfield line may not get any play, but that is what you sign up for when you play travel lax.
2 lines for Attack
2 lines for Defense
3 lines for Middy (they run more)
2 goalies
Add 1 or 2 extra kids in case school sports, family activities, injuries, kids's quit or just life in general and you have the ideal # of kids on a team.
The backup goalie and 3rd Midfield line may not get any play, but that is what you sign up for when you play travel lax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shear panic has now officially set in on this 2022 team. Great!!!!! Outlaws is looking for attack players on what team (Select, Black or Silver?)
And the season hasn't even started yet. Just wait till the guest players start showing up.
By that comment alone I would not homfor Outlaws!!! That's a horrible attitude! You get excited over causing panic????
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shear panic has now officially set in on this 2022 team. Great!!!!! Outlaws is looking for attack players on what team (Select, Black or Silver?)
And the season hasn't even started yet. Just wait till the guest players start showing up.
Outlaws stink in 2022. The coaching is awful
Outlaws select and Gold at 2022 are Full- Only looking for couple kids for Black team(3rd Team this age)
Everyone needs to relax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
depreciating their play? what the [lacrosse] does that mean? that is silly.
The word was deprecate, not depreciate . . .
This thread is out of control. Baaaaaaaahaaaaaaa
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Outlaws looking for defense and attack?
Outlaw let their basket of deplorables go to express. Enjoy the parents complaiining.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I coach PAL and have spoken at with other coaches. Proper team size is 23:
2 lines for Attack
2 lines for Defense
3 lines for Middy (they run more)
2 goalies
Add 1 or 2 extra kids in case school sports, family activities, injuries, kids's quit or just life in general and you have the ideal # of kids on a team.
The backup goalie and 3rd Midfield line may not get any play, but that is what you sign up for when you play travel lax.
2 lines for Attack
2 lines for Defense
3 lines for Middy (they run more)
2 goalies
Add 1 or 2 extra kids in case school sports, family activities, injuries, kids's quit or just life in general and you have the ideal # of kids on a team.
The backup goalie and 3rd Midfield line may not get any play, but that is what you sign up for when you play travel lax.
The only way you last sentence could be acceptable is if there were more transparency to the try-out/ roster-building process. As it is parents are asked to write a check and take their chances as to where their kid falls.
If the kid is not able to make one of the top 2 mid-lines then they should be able to get all/some money back rather than waste an entire year on a team in which they cannot possibly develop as players.
Zero loyalty with Express.
Loyalty? This is a business to teach your kids lacrosse and put the best team out there. fl$ changes its roster year to year 80% and Igloo changes coaches every year. This isn't about loyalty. You want loyalty, get a dog
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Zero loyalty with Express.
People complain when coaches are loyal to players and they do not pick the better player but then as soon as it affects your kid the other way you claim they are not loyal. Bottom line - if you dont't like something leave. There are many other organizations. Life is never fair. Do what is best for you, but stop ghe complaining. It's getting old. Move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I coach PAL and have spoken at with other coaches. Proper team size is 23:
2 lines for Attack
2 lines for Defense
3 lines for Middy (they run more)
2 goalies
Add 1 or 2 extra kids in case school sports, family activities, injuries, kids's quit or just life in general and you have the ideal # of kids on a team.
The backup goalie and 3rd Midfield line may not get any play, but that is what you sign up for when you play travel lax.
2 lines for Attack
2 lines for Defense
3 lines for Middy (they run more)
2 goalies
Add 1 or 2 extra kids in case school sports, family activities, injuries, kids's quit or just life in general and you have the ideal # of kids on a team.
The backup goalie and 3rd Midfield line may not get any play, but that is what you sign up for when you play travel lax.
The only way you last sentence could be acceptable is if there were more transparency to the try-out/ roster-building process. As it is parents are asked to write a check and take their chances as to where their kid falls.
If the kid is not able to make one of the top 2 mid-lines then they should be able to get all/some money back rather than waste an entire year on a team in which they cannot possibly develop as players.
If your child is on the last line that doesn't mean they are last line for the whole season. At means they are practicing with better players, which will make him a better player and make him WANT to move up to the first line. The season isn't set. Lines change. You need that many players. It's better to be on a team with more talented kids to challenge your son than being the best player on the team. Always pros and cons. This link seems to have all the glass 1/2 empty people.
You know we're the 3rd line is during practice on defense when doing 6 on 6 drill. Fact
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I coach PAL and have spoken at with other coaches. Proper team size is 23:
2 lines for Attack
2 lines for Defense
3 lines for Middy (they run more)
2 goalies
Add 1 or 2 extra kids in case school sports, family activities, injuries, kids's quit or just life in general and you have the ideal # of kids on a team.
The backup goalie and 3rd Midfield line may not get any play, but that is what you sign up for when you play travel lax.
2 lines for Attack
2 lines for Defense
3 lines for Middy (they run more)
2 goalies
Add 1 or 2 extra kids in case school sports, family activities, injuries, kids's quit or just life in general and you have the ideal # of kids on a team.
The backup goalie and 3rd Midfield line may not get any play, but that is what you sign up for when you play travel lax.
The only way you last sentence could be acceptable is if there were more transparency to the try-out/ roster-building process. As it is parents are asked to write a check and take their chances as to where their kid falls.
If the kid is not able to make one of the top 2 mid-lines then they should be able to get all/some money back rather than waste an entire year on a team in which they cannot possibly develop as players.
If your child is on the last line that doesn't mean they are last line for the whole season. At means they are practicing with better players, which will make him a better player and make him WANT to move up to the first line. The season isn't set. Lines change. You need that many players. It's better to be on a team with more talented kids to challenge your son than being the best player on the team. Always pros and cons. This link seems to have all the glass 1/2 empty people.
Good points but it also depends on the age. If your son is trying to get noticed or seen by college coaches, and he's the 7th-9th middie on a team that mostly runs 6 middies, he's better off on a lesser team, where he gets more playing time, and has a better chance of standing out. It's hard for most people to find the perfect fit, so we just have to do the best we can, be proactive with the college coaches, and hope for the best!
College coaches need to put a lid on the hold-back situation that is running rampant through our sport.It is becoming an epidemic! Is this what we want to teach our kids? That this holding back for sports is OK? If you want to make it in this world you need to cheat the system so to get a head-start. And How about all the kids that are the right age? What about them? Other sports have age requirements for club sports.It works.
Too bad about the kids who are the correct age. This is a dog eat dog world, and my friends uncle's cousin's kid is going to take your kids spot on Duke!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
College coaches need to put a lid on the hold-back situation that is running rampant through our sport.It is becoming an epidemic! Is this what we want to teach our kids? That this holding back for sports is OK? If you want to make it in this world you need to cheat the system so to get a head-start. And How about all the kids that are the right age? What about them? Other sports have age requirements for club sports.It works.
College coaches job is not to worry about a kids age or what is fair, it is to win lacrosse games and you are crazy if you think it is about anything else. Very much like a defense attorney's job is not to see that justice is served but to win for his client guilty or not. That is why the NCAA exists, to legislate those that can not legislate themselves.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
O'Reily 2022 has 6 defense, 2 goals, 9 attach and 11 middies. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to many. Just emailed coaching staff as I am concerned too.
And what did they say?
What's happening with 2023 b team this year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
O'Reily 2022 has 6 defense, 2 goals, 9 attach and 11 middies. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to many. Just emailed coaching staff as I am concerned too.
And what did they say?
No LSM, FOGO???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
O'Reily 2022 has 6 defense, 2 goals, 9 attach and 11 middies. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to many. Just emailed coaching staff as I am concerned too.
And what did they say?
No LSM, FOGO???
I heard there's a 2019 team with 35 players that will be split up this fall like they did last year. I guess schreiber and pomps...
Son's first year with express 2021 team karwoski. First practice 10 Attack, 2 goalies , 6 middies and 9 defenders. 10 Attack are you serious..
That's what you get with a no cut team. Lopsided positions. Some attack will be moved to middy and it will even out. There is a lot of truth on this thread. Parents were warned. Just have to hope some kids quit or ask to be moved to the top team. They will move kids up if the parents ask. Just hope they don't keep bringing kids in. Hope it turns out well for the kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Son's first year with express 2021 team karwoski. First practice 10 Attack, 2 goalies , 6 middies and 9 defenders. 10 Attack are you serious..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Son's first year with express 2021 team karwoski. First practice 10 Attack, 2 goalies , 6 middies and 9 defenders. 10 Attack are you serious..
Here we go, First practice already complaining. Just quit now and jump to another team so you don't poison the sideline.
The guy has a valid complaint.
Here we go, First practice already complaining. Just quit now and jump to another team so you don't poison the sideline.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Son's first year with express 2021 team karwoski. First practice 10 Attack, 2 goalies , 6 middies and 9 defenders. 10 Attack are you serious..
Here we go, First practice already complaining. Just quit now and jump to another team so you don't poison the sideline.
Yes, leave now
You really have no clue what you are buying into as far as the numbers on the roster and how many positions are filled. Its usually to late when all said and done ! , BUT Channy will give a refund out at this early stage of the game, so if you have any doubts on your first instinct (which is usually correct) call Channy demand a refund and he will give it to you. We have had this issue and he did not even flinch when confronted.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The guy has a valid complaint.
Here we go, First practice already complaining. Just quit now and jump to another team so you don't poison the sideline.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Son's first year with express 2021 team karwoski. First practice 10 Attack, 2 goalies , 6 middies and 9 defenders. 10 Attack are you serious..
Here we go, First practice already complaining. Just quit now and jump to another team so you don't poison the sideline.
Those saying leave now are the problem. They are willing to take whatever garbage they are handed for 3 k and not say a word. My bet is those are the parents of the kids who can't make another team and need this team that has no cuts. This guy has a valid complaint and should complain. If parents don't complain now as time goes by more kids will be added who could not make another team. Such an unstable environment. Sounds like most of the parents are also difficult. Have fun with each other.
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Yes, leave now
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, leave now
This is how the parents try to get roster down. Pre season bullying ! Lol
No worries though. When you quit , they will take 5 more by summer.
Few years back 2021 age group had two teams to start in fall , then a 3rd team was added by spring and they pulled kids off from 2nd team to play on the 3rd. Get your money back NOW . Its a complete waste of time its a shuffle of players !! they will try to make the 2nd team better this year and will add players and delete players from this roster. its been done before and will be done again. There are players who were cut from Channy team from last season who are on this and they were reassured this team will be just as good so they would stay ... LMFAO.. You been warned.
This is how the parents try to get roster down. Pre season bullying ! Lol
No worries though. When you quit , they will take 5 more by summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, leave now
This is how the parents try to get roster down. Pre season bullying ! Lol
No worries though. When you quit , they will take 5 more by summer.
Six middies is also trouble. Those kids won't play as much as they think. What teams do with too many defenders and attack is play four attack in the offensive zone and four poles in the defensive zone and have three lines of two middys. Either way it sounds like a mess.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You really have no clue what you are buying into as far as the numbers on the roster and how many positions are filled. Its usually to late when all said and done ! , BUT Channy will give a refund out at this early stage of the game, so if you have any doubts on your first instinct (which is usually correct) call Channy demand a refund and he will give it to you. We have had this issue and he did not even flinch when confronted.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The guy has a valid complaint.
Here we go, First practice already complaining. Just quit now and jump to another team so you don't poison the sideline.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Son's first year with express 2021 team karwoski. First practice 10 Attack, 2 goalies , 6 middies and 9 defenders. 10 Attack are you serious..
Here we go, First practice already complaining. Just quit now and jump to another team so you don't poison the sideline.
Are they kidding with the BS going on at Kellenberg today? Could they fit any more kids on those fields? Half a field each....even for HS kids? Really? Channy sure maximized his return on that field rental!
Why are you there?
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Are they kidding with the BS going on at Kellenberg today? Could they fit any more kids on those fields? Half a field each....even for HS kids? Really? Channy sure maximized his return on that field rental!
It was fine, apart from needing a few more goals.
Drama queen. More than enough room for everyone for a fall practice.
Honestly God bless these guys, they are geniuses! They have a gift that is just amazing! The fact they could plan a scrimmage, one game in CT and then get me to play for it is amazing! What suckers we are! Just amazing!
So don't drive to CT. Stop complaining and switch teams is you are this miserable. Bye Felecia.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honestly God bless these guys, they are geniuses! They have a gift that is just amazing! The fact they could plan a scrimmage, one game in CT and then get me to play for it is amazing! What suckers we are! Just amazing!
15 bucks for the refs, fields and food is completely out of line.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Honestly God bless these guys, they are geniuses! They have a gift that is just amazing! The fact they could plan a scrimmage, one game in CT and then get me to play for it is amazing! What suckers we are! Just amazing!
15 bucks for the refs, fields and food is completely out of line. [/quot
Should probably quit travel lacrosse life! If $15 bucks hurts, wait until the summer!
How many 2023 teams did they make this year? Anyone know if they spread out the talent or left their C team to get slammed every tourney again?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 2023 teams did they make this year? Anyone know if they spread out the talent or left their C team to get slammed every tourney again?
Is that a 4th team they have???? I hope not for their own sake.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honestly God bless these guys, they are geniuses! They have a gift that is just amazing! The fact they could plan a scrimmage, one game in CT and then get me to play for it is amazing! What suckers we are! Just amazing!
15 bucks for the refs, fields and food is completely out of line.
It was $13 and was well worth it. Chargers hosted a clinic/scrimmage followed by lunch.
How come your $2500+ registration fee doesn't cover it
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honestly God bless these guys, they are geniuses! They have a gift that is just amazing! The fact they could plan a scrimmage, one game in CT and then get me to play for it is amazing! What suckers we are! Just amazing!
15 bucks for the refs, fields and food is completely out of line.
It was $13 and was well worth it. Chargers hosted a clinic/scrimmage followed by lunch.
If this is 2022 parent complaining about less than $20 for an ADD ON scrimmage where they provide food you are a complete a** and need to find a different team. You happen to have a coach that e wants the kids to improve, play different teams and tries to charge you the bare min so you don't complain. I believe your coach bought the food and brought it up to CT. If you are complaining about less than $20 for this you need to get out & good luck finding a better team. Your son is in 7th grade. If he was on an A team you would have multiple add on tournaments, traveling every weekend, hotels. And guess what?... Your coach will NOT bring your food and your fee will not be less than $20. Stop your baby a** complaining!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honestly God bless these guys, they are geniuses! They have a gift that is just amazing! The fact they could plan a scrimmage, one game in CT and then get me to play for it is amazing! What suckers we are! Just amazing!
15 bucks for the refs, fields and food is completely out of line.
Do you have ANY clue how much fields and refs cost? Are you seriously complaining about $15??? Go back to PAL! You are in the wrong place.
Lets focus on Express and how it did not workout for a particular 2020 coach/parent so he is now on the sidelines for the 2021 Express team ,that is just terrible and now he is trying to put his kid on first line and take away from kids who deserve it and are right age .... PATHETIC !!!!!! JS
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Lets focus on Express and how it did not workout for a particular 2020 coach/parent so he is now on the sidelines for the 2021 Express team ,that is just terrible and now he is trying to put his kid on first line and take away from kids who deserve it and are right age .... PATHETIC !!!!!! JS
Calling out a 13 year old. Classy.
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Lets focus on Express and how it did not workout for a particular 2020 coach/parent so he is now on the sidelines for the 2021 Express team ,that is just terrible and now he is trying to put his kid on first line and take away from kids who deserve it and are right age .... PATHETIC !!!!!! JS
WHAT are you talking about??? He is STILL 2020 team. You have no clue what you are talking about!
2022s had 11 middies, 9 attack, 6 poles, and 2 goalies today. Plus a some were missing. Coaches did a great job having the lines on the clock and spreading out the playing time.
at a younger age it isn't horrible to have more kids if you are rotating the kids correctly. As you get older it becomes more difficult to get all the kids in when you need to be more competitive and are going to showcases
Express 2023's didn't fair so well today....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express 2023's didn't fair so well today....
Neither did O''Reilly 2022!
Karwoski 2021 looked like a mess
Karkowski has always been a mess.post something new.all the express teams looked pretty bad today.but mc's wallet is getting fatter
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express 2023's didn't fair so well today....
How many teams do they have at this age?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express 2023's didn't fair so well today....
All 300 players in attendance. That was ridiculous how many kids are on the sideline for the b team. Their parents were all complaining about playing time by endo of day.
Before today some 2021 Express B team parents were talking it up that this team was going to be an A team. Last year they were a C team and they are a C team again this year. Last year the better B team players either left or got moved up to the A team after the first tournament. By the spring more parents complained and kids were moved up to the A team. The kids that left never came back. The kids that got moved to the A team never played. If you came to this team being realistic knowing it would be a C team and hope the kids will work hard to get better you will have a good experience. If you are unrealistic of what this team is you and your kid will have a terrible year. Having said this last year despite losing their best players they were a lot better in the Summer than the Fall. This team improved a lot even after losing a lot of talent. That is an indication of good coaching. If all the kids stay and work hard together there will be great improvement. That is what you want from a team that plays at this level.
Is the 2023 Hedstromteam Channy's team grom last year??? If so why is he not coaching anymore and who is Hedstrom?
Long Island express officially changing their name to team New [lacrosse]. Every kid playing lacrosse in the state will be assigned to a team.
4 teams now for 2020???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Karkowski has always been a mess.post something new.all the express teams looked pretty bad today.but mc's wallet is getting fatter
Just keep writing checks. There are alternatives out there, you are not chained to one program.
Agreed!
My guess is with all these teams of 28+ man rosters, they break it up and form more teams. Or at least I hope so or I am considering leaving after the fall. For the most important reason that my son will become more and more upset with playing time. In want him to enjoy it.
Express S#%k's at the end of the season you are spending $5000 for garbage
And does your son still play for Express?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express S#%k's at the end of the season you are spending $5000 for garbage
$5,000??? What do you have twins or something???
At the end of the season add up all your receipts what you spent on traveling your hotels your food .Tuition to express. All your winter practices . Been there done it for three years . And I got it in black and white ...
It s#%ks it's garbage
U didn't answer the question. Where does your son play?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My guess is with all these teams of 28+ man rosters, they break it up and form more teams. Or at least I hope so or I am considering leaving after the fall. For the most important reason that my son will become more and more upset with playing time. In want him to enjoy it.
This won't happen!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My guess is with all these teams of 28+ man rosters, they break it up and form more teams. Or at least I hope so or I am considering leaving after the fall. For the most important reason that my son will become more and more upset with playing time. In want him to enjoy it.
This won't happen!
No, it won't happen. One team equals much fatter margins for LIE. Its a business people, don't forget its ALL about the bottomline.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
MC won't make more teams. He WILL push kids off of bloated B teams and move them to a C team He did it last year at a few different ages groups. Sign em, get their $$, lock em in, and then break the news to them in December, when its too late to pull up stakes and go elsewhere
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC won't make more teams. He WILL push kids off of bloated B teams and move them to a C team He did it last year at a few different ages groups. Sign em, get their $$, lock em in, and then break the news to them in December, when its too late to pull up stakes and go elsewhere
Yup, and buy December you are 3 payments in
Not for express that money making club . That's all express is about is getting your money .The practices are like PAL
Been there three years you're a 110% right
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Been there three years you're a 110% right
????? Who's right about what?
worst program on LI
Who is the fool. Them or you for 3yrs. Buddy If you feel that way stop giving them money.
In my opinion, I find the biggest problem is not the A teams, it's the 2nd teams for most clubs, Some clubs do a nice job with their 2nd teams. For example, Igloo 2ND teams seem to get the same attention and resources as the A teams. Is so hard to do?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In my opinion, I find the biggest problem is not the A teams, it's the 2nd teams for most clubs, Some clubs do a nice job with their 2nd teams. For example, Igloo 2ND teams seem to get the same attention and resources as the A teams. Is so hard to do?
OR if you are going to do a 3rd team, structure it the right way. Train, teach, etc. Lower level tourneys. Charge less. The biggest problem is the skill level. You can't believe how little work gets done at a practice because of lack of basics like catching/throwing. And if programs could get over themselves, get 2 or 3 similar level teams together for a practice with live game action thrown in.
Throwing and Catching are skills that should be worked on at home. Why would you spend so much money on Travel Lacrosse and not make sure your child works on the basics at home. You would be surprised how much better your child would be by spending 1/2 hour 3 to 4 times a week at a wall. You could actually get 250 throws and catches in that 1/2 hour. In the 1 1/2 to 2 hour practice the last thing the coach wants to work on is throwing and catching. He is trying to implement and offense and a defense. Basic skills are something you bring to travel lacrosse, Not learn at travel lacrosse. Get little John or Jane off the cell phone and to the nearest wall. Not looking to hurt anyones feelings, Just my opinion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In my opinion, I find the biggest problem is not the A teams, it's the 2nd teams for most clubs, Some clubs do a nice job with their 2nd teams. For example, Igloo 2ND teams seem to get the same attention and resources as the A teams. Is so hard to do?
OR if you are going to do a 3rd team, structure it the right way. Train, teach, etc. Lower level tourneys. Charge less. The biggest problem is the skill level. You can't believe how little work gets done at a practice because of lack of basics like catching/throwing. And if programs could get over themselves, get 2 or 3 similar level teams together for a practice with live game action thrown in.
lets take your concept a step further....realistic parents might be able to accept that their kids are in need of better basic fundamental skill training (catching throwing scooping ground balls etc) these programs should offer basic entry novice classes with intra-squad scrimmages to teach basic field awareness and lax IQ.
with these basic skills being taught for a season without the need for expensive travel to sit on the bench; a prospective player can then be better prepared for the entry into higher level team try outs more confidently. else, these kids for the majority, become chronic 2nd and 3rd line players on 2nd and 3rd level club teams.
I feel many parents would appreciate that offer from clubs with vastly reduced fees in order to help their young players get a proper introduction into the sport without the pressures of competing for a spot they just are not prepared for.
thoughts?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In my opinion, I find the biggest problem is not the A teams, it's the 2nd teams for most clubs, Some clubs do a nice job with their 2nd teams. For example, Igloo 2ND teams seem to get the same attention and resources as the A teams. Is so hard to do?
You think 2nd and 3rd teams get the same attention and resources ?? Wait until they are at recruiting years. Tell me what you think then.
how about ur 2021 coach drunk at games
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how about ur 2021 coach drunk at games
He wasn't the only coach. An [lacrosse]'t coach was hit harder than an avalanche the morning of a tournament this past summer. When he did make it to the game, he was nothing but negative and nasty too the players. Disgrace.
I guess second teams do get the same treatment as first teams!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In my opinion, I find the biggest problem is not the A teams, it's the 2nd teams for most clubs, Some clubs do a nice job with their 2nd teams. For example, Igloo 2ND teams seem to get the same attention and resources as the A teams. Is so hard to do?
Agreed....except with your 'example organization'. Statement based of first hand experience.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In my opinion, I find the biggest problem is not the A teams, it's the 2nd teams for most clubs, Some clubs do a nice job with their 2nd teams. For example, Igloo 2ND teams seem to get the same attention and resources as the A teams. Is so hard to do?
Agreed....except with your 'example organization'. Statement based of first hand experience.
It's an observation. It's not hard to treat all the teams the same. Not talking about recruiting. More practice, development, tourneys, one coach... That's all. Not hard. Again my opinion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In my opinion, I find the biggest problem is not the A teams, it's the 2nd teams for most clubs, Some clubs do a nice job with their 2nd teams. For example, Igloo 2ND teams seem to get the same attention and resources as the A teams. Is so hard to do?
Agreed....except with your 'example organization'. Statement based of first hand experience.
It's an observation. It's not hard to treat all the teams the same. Not talking about recruiting. More practice, development, tourneys, one coach... That's all. Not hard. Again my opinion.
Why don't you ask an avalanche parent about that team getting the same attention. They have been in existence for 2 years so far and both years have hemoraged players and had to rebuild. This is not because the experience is great. As a matter of fact, that team only had 4 tourneys listed last spring/summer until the par mets went nuts and they added events. Not all unicorns and rainbows on Avalanche
Express is the biggest waste of money ever.
We were supposed to be such a good team last year .We went to four tournaments we won one and we got killed on all the other ones . Yep let's spend more money on garbage coaching
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In my opinion, I find the biggest problem is not the A teams, it's the 2nd teams for most clubs, Some clubs do a nice job with their 2nd teams. For example, Igloo 2ND teams seem to get the same attention and resources as the A teams. Is so hard to do?
Agreed....except with your 'example organization'. Statement based of first hand experience.
It's an observation. It's not hard to treat all the teams the same. Not talking about recruiting. More practice, development, tourneys, one coach... That's all. Not hard. Again my opinion.
Why don't you ask an avalanche parent about that team getting the same attention. They have been in existence for 2 years so far and both years have hemoraged players and had to rebuild. This is not because the experience is great. As a matter of fact, that team only had 4 tourneys listed last spring/summer until the par mets went nuts and they added events. Not all unicorns and rainbows on Avalanche
So that's my point, because I was impressed with the 2022s and wished my kid tried out. So overall, it's still my opinion, there is no consistency with 2nd teams. Some are really good and some are an after thought. I guess it's the coach and his dedication tat determines the experience. How do we as parents and consumers figure this out?? Good topic here to discuss.
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In my opinion, I find the biggest problem is not the A teams, it's the 2nd teams for most clubs, Some clubs do a nice job with their 2nd teams. For example, Igloo 2ND teams seem to get the same attention and resources as the A teams. Is so hard to do?
Agreed....except with your 'example organization'. Statement based of first hand experience.
It's an observation. It's not hard to treat all the teams the same. Not talking about recruiting. More practice, development, tourneys, one coach... That's all. Not hard. Again my opinion.
Why don't you ask an avalanche parent about that team getting the same attention. They have been in existence for 2 years so far and both years have hemoraged players and had to rebuild. This is not because the experience is great. As a matter of fact, that team only had 4 tourneys listed last spring/summer until the par mets went nuts and they added events. Not all unicorns and rainbows on Avalanche
So that's my point, because I was impressed with the 2022s and wished my kid tried out. So overall, it's still my opinion, there is no consistency with 2nd teams. Some are really good and some are an after thought. I guess it's the coach and his dedication tat determines the experience. How do we as parents and consumers figure this out?? Good topic here to discuss.
Yesterday proved my point. Igloo has an A and AA. Only ones that can say that. One thought is... at tryouts kids should say I am only trying out for the top team. Why? Because good second teams get picked and don't form because B team invites are declined. Nothing wrong with declining amd striving just for the top team, however, it would make the forming a 2nd or B team more effective. Or name the A team and have another tryout for the 2nd team.
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In my opinion, I find the biggest problem is not the A teams, it's the 2nd teams for most clubs, Some clubs do a nice job with their 2nd teams. For example, Igloo 2ND teams seem to get the same attention and resources as the A teams. Is so hard to do?
Agreed....except with your 'example organization'. Statement based of first hand experience.
It's an observation. It's not hard to treat all the teams the same. Not talking about recruiting. More practice, development, tourneys, one coach... That's all. Not hard. Again my opinion.
Why don't you ask an avalanche parent about that team getting the same attention. They have been in existence for 2 years so far and both years have hemoraged players and had to rebuild. This is not because the experience is great. As a matter of fact, that team only had 4 tourneys listed last spring/summer until the par mets went nuts and they added events. Not all unicorns and rainbows on Avalanche
So that's my point, because I was impressed with the 2022s and wished my kid tried out. So overall, it's still my opinion, there is no consistency with 2nd teams. Some are really good and some are an after thought. I guess it's the coach and his dedication tat determines the experience. How do we as parents and consumers figure this out?? Good topic here to discuss.
Yesterday proved my point. Igloo has an A and AA. Only ones that can say that. One thought is... at tryouts kids should say I am only trying out for the top team. Why? Because good second teams get picked and don't form because B team invites are declined. Nothing wrong with declining amd striving just for the top team, however, it would make the forming a 2nd or B team more effective. Or name the A team and have another tryout for the 2nd team.
Not for 2021 they don't.
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In my opinion, I find the biggest problem is not the A teams, it's the 2nd teams for most clubs, Some clubs do a nice job with their 2nd teams. For example, Igloo 2ND teams seem to get the same attention and resources as the A teams. Is so hard to do?
Agreed....except with your 'example organization'. Statement based of first hand experience.
It's an observation. It's not hard to treat all the teams the same. Not talking about recruiting. More practice, development, tourneys, one coach... That's all. Not hard. Again my opinion.
Why don't you ask an avalanche parent about that team getting the same attention. They have been in existence for 2 years so far and both years have hemoraged players and had to rebuild. This is not because the experience is great. As a matter of fact, that team only had 4 tourneys listed last spring/summer until the par mets went nuts and they added events. Not all unicorns and rainbows on Avalanche
So that's my point, because I was impressed with the 2022s and wished my kid tried out. So overall, it's still my opinion, there is no consistency with 2nd teams. Some are really good and some are an after thought. I guess it's the coach and his dedication tat determines the experience. How do we as parents and consumers figure this out?? Good topic here to discuss.
Yesterday proved my point. Igloo has an A and AA. Only ones that can say that. One thought is... at tryouts kids should say I am only trying out for the top team. Why? Because good second teams get picked and don't form because B team invites are declined. Nothing wrong with declining amd striving just for the top team, however, it would make the forming a 2nd or B team more effective. Or name the A team and have another tryout for the 2nd team.
A and AA doesn't work when you start recruiting next year. Program won't get two invites to big tournaments. Even if not B by ability , always second team and priority to organization. Which will be a shame , because you actually have a couple of A players on team.
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Express is the biggest waste of money ever.
For every person that says that there are dozens who feel otherwise.
?????? Who are we talking about here .... if so why have your kid on the team
My Sons friend plays on 2021 Kowarski team, I have been reading some people on here beating the team up because they have to many players, some say as many as 28. They had 20 guys on the team and it looked like everyone got to play. Also, The coaches looked as if they were coaching as they should. Not a fan of reading B/S Probably from disgruntled Ex Players parents. Not looking for an argument, Just explaining what I saw.
That's because 8 people left the team after the first tournament.
How is that possible? Where did they go?
How many kids are on the 2021 AA Express team? More curious about the middies and attack breakout. Thx
they will just keep adding kids as long as your money is green .... if your son is not getting time on the field then move to another team this is a crucial time in your kids college looks and he will not get scene on the bench ..... hit the prospect camp as well and ask the coach WHO HAS THE MAVERICK SHOWTIME BID TO THE TOP SHOWCASE ... then you will know where you stand on the team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On an odd day or even day?
Not trying to get a rise but just curious as to how they stack up on these 2 positions vs my sons team? I.e. Do they typically rotate the attack or no? What positions reclassed this yr from the 2020 team?
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In my opinion, I find the biggest problem is not the A teams, it's the 2nd teams for most clubs, Some clubs do a nice job with their 2nd teams. For example, Igloo 2ND teams seem to get the same attention and resources as the A teams. Is so hard to do?
Agreed....except with your 'example organization'. Statement based of first hand experience.
It's an observation. It's not hard to treat all the teams the same. Not talking about recruiting. More practice, development, tourneys, one coach... That's all. Not hard. Again my opinion.
Why don't you ask an avalanche parent about that team getting the same attention. They have been in existence for 2 years so far and both years have hemoraged players and had to rebuild. This is not because the experience is great. As a matter of fact, that team only had 4 tourneys listed last spring/summer until the par mets went nuts and they added events. Not all unicorns and rainbows on Avalanche
So that's my point, because I was impressed with the 2022s and wished my kid tried out. So overall, it's still my opinion, there is no consistency with 2nd teams. Some are really good and some are an after thought. I guess it's the coach and his dedication tat determines the experience. How do we as parents and consumers figure this out?? Good topic here to discuss.
Yesterday proved my point. Igloo has an A and AA. Only ones that can say that. One thought is... at tryouts kids should say I am only trying out for the top team. Why? Because good second teams get picked and don't form because B team invites are declined. Nothing wrong with declining amd striving just for the top team, however, it would make the forming a 2nd or B team more effective. Or name the A team and have another tryout for the 2nd team.
Okay igloo dad
Proved your point ?? 1 - 2.
Losing by less than you thought doesn't make you an A team.
Losing by less than you thought doesn't make you an A team.
Thank You, well said. The level of B/S posts are out of control. My son plays on 2021 Karwoski, we have no issues. There are more kids then last year, his playing time went down from last year, we told him "get better, play harder fight for your spot, you want it take it back". I keep reading this A and AA team B/S, I don't know where its coming from but no one has been told this is an A team. If you were unhappy with Express and left the team that's your business and there's no reason to continually bash them. It's like they can't stand that other people are happy with them.
Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.
It's worse at other clubs so stop complaining you woossy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.
It's worse at other clubs so stop complaining you woossy.
That's your bar? It's worse at other clubs?? Really??!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.
It's worse at other clubs so stop complaining you woossy.
I asked if it was normal. I wasn't complaining.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.
It's worse at other clubs so stop complaining you woossy.
I asked if it was normal. I wasn't complaining.
Don't worry about the responses. This site is full of pre-pubescent men/boys who can't respond to a simple question without a snark comment.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.
No not normal, we have our sons practice schedule...we have good communication. E-mail the coach or the director
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.
It's worse at other clubs so stop complaining you woossy.
I asked if it was normal. I wasn't complaining.
What year? If 2024 you should have stayed with the B team. Did you honestly think he was going to be different this year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.
It's worse at other clubs so stop complaining you woossy.
I asked if it was normal. I wasn't complaining.
What year? If 2024 you should have stayed with the B team. Did you honestly think he was going to be different this year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.
It's worse at other clubs so stop complaining you woossy.
The fish rots from the head down
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.
It's worse at other clubs so stop complaining you woossy.
I asked if it was normal. I wasn't complaining.
What year? If 2024 you should have stayed with the B team. Did you honestly think he was going to be different this year?
B team, no way, no how. If johnnie is on the B team, just get him a baseball glove.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.
It's worse at other clubs so stop complaining you woossy.
I asked if it was normal. I wasn't complaining.
What year? If 2024 you should have stayed with the B team. Did you honestly think he was going to be different this year?
B team, no way, no how. If johnnie is on the B team, just get him a baseball glove.
What an ignorant statement in my opinion. So many kids that don't start out on the A team turn into very good players and even play division 1. Not one, many... there so many better situations available than SOME A teams. This have to be on the top team culture is nonsense. I don't understand the parents who think it's good for their kid to be an A team practice player. And those usually pay for training on the side in the hopes to play more. But whatever, to each his own. Just sharing my opinion have been these roads.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.
It's worse at other clubs so stop complaining you woossy.
I asked if it was normal. I wasn't complaining.
What year? If 2024 you should have stayed with the B team. Did you honestly think he was going to be different this year?
You are 100% correct! Club ball can be very biased. Let's see who shows up on their varsity teams!! I want to see who's name is in Newsday!
B team, no way, no how. If johnnie is on the B team, just get him a baseball glove.
What an ignorant statement in my opinion. So many kids that don't start out on the A team turn into very good players and even play division 1. Not one, many... there so many better situations available than SOME A teams. This have to be on the top team culture is nonsense. I don't understand the parents who think it's good for their kid to be an A team practice player. And those usually pay for training on the side in the hopes to play more. But whatever, to each his own. Just sharing my opinion have been these roads.
There was a great article in the paper this past weekend about early commits. It was about football but absolutely pertains to lacrosse and changing the rule so kids don't get hurt. It was about a kid who committed early to Michigan and let all other teams know he was going to Michigan with a big announcement and internet posts. He thought he was done looking and could enjoy his senior year of HS. He got a call just as HS school SENIOR YEAR started from Michigan to let him know they THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND and no longer needed him. He could still come to Michigan but no scholarship. Turns out a better player became available and they got him to commit. The kid has no recourse and because he wants to play football is now at a lower tier school. This can and does happen to lacrosse players all the time you just don't hear about it because parents won't admit it. If they change the rule and early commits are locked in and must be honored all of the bull crap will stop. You won't have all these kids being offered spots as quickly and easily as they do now. Puts all the pressure on the coaches to be sure what they are doing. Kids get verbals which mean absolutely nothing and don't sign commit papers until years later.
The kid should have signed his NLI Junior year. No NLI and nothing is promised.
Very interesting. The owness needs to be put on the college coaches somehow. Right now it's just a business to them.
It is on the College coach, sign your NLI and the deal is done. Athlete is protected by the NCAA. So is the school. If the kid backs out he loses eligibility, the school can't back out of NLI. And yes it is a business, the school provides an education for free, the athlete is thus an employee of the school. "Work" is practice, workouts and games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kid should have signed his NLI Junior year. No NLI and nothing is promised.
I thought NLI's are signed earliest Fall of Senior Year
NLI is signed senior year.
so how many did they get signed? I'm sure they sent out an e-mail to the suckers (parents) of kids on all of the teams
Lol... he said sucka'
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kid should have signed his NLI Junior year. No NLI and nothing is promised.
If you don't know what you are talking about please stop. NLI cannot be signed before senior year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kid should have signed his NLI Junior year. No NLI and nothing is promised.
As already pointed out, NLI's cannot happen before Sr Year. Verbal commitments can be made prior (and they are!), but they are non-binding on both ends. Lastly, for lacrosse, there is no such thing as a free education via athletic scholarship, which is tied to an NLI - the maximum number of scholarships per the NCAA for lacrosse per year make this so - no team is giving one lax player a 4-year full ride in athletic scholarship.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is on the College coach, sign your NLI and the deal is done. Athlete is protected by the NCAA. So is the school. If the kid backs out he loses eligibility, the school can't back out of NLI. And yes it is a business, the school provides an education for free, the athlete is thus an employee of the school. "Work" is practice, workouts and games.
Again, no one gets a full ride in lacrosse . . .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is on the College coach, sign your NLI and the deal is done. Athlete is protected by the NCAA. So is the school. If the kid backs out he loses eligibility, the school can't back out of NLI. And yes it is a business, the school provides an education for free, the athlete is thus an employee of the school. "Work" is practice, workouts and games.
Again, no one gets a full ride in lacrosse . . .
Yup, I everyone knows that. 12.6 scholarships in D1 and 10.8 in D2 that the coaches have to spread across the roster to build the team. But there is still scholarship opportunity. It's just not like football or basketball. However, 25% of tuition, plus anything else academically is pretry good whether is private or public. Get good grades, play hard, be well rounded, join clubs, play other sports, and be your own promoter to the college of your choice is the advice I keep hearing. Most recently at a prospect day of a top 10 school. There are teams with over dozen recruits from the class and teams with little to none. Prently of opportunity for all these kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is on the College coach, sign your NLI and the deal is done. Athlete is protected by the NCAA. So is the school. If the kid backs out he loses eligibility, the school can't back out of NLI. And yes it is a business, the school provides an education for free, the athlete is thus an employee of the school. "Work" is practice, workouts and games.
Again, no one gets a full ride in lacrosse . . .
Yup, I everyone knows that. 12.6 scholarships in D1 and 10.8 in D2 that the coaches have to spread across the roster to build the team. But there is still scholarship opportunity. It's just not like football or basketball. However, 25% of tuition, plus anything else academically is pretry good whether is private or public. Get good grades, play hard, be well rounded, join clubs, play other sports, and be your own promoter to the college of your choice is the advice I keep hearing. Most recently at a prospect day of a top 10 school. There are teams with over dozen recruits from the class and teams with little to none. Prently of opportunity for all these kids.
But any money that is not athletic scholarship is not tied to the NLI, which was what the poster was speaking to. Additionally, academic scholarships and the like can come in many forms and are not guaranteed for four years either - in many cases you need to maintain a minimum GPA etc to continue to receive academic money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is on the College coach, sign your NLI and the deal is done. Athlete is protected by the NCAA. So is the school. If the kid backs out he loses eligibility, the school can't back out of NLI. And yes it is a business, the school provides an education for free, the athlete is thus an employee of the school. "Work" is practice, workouts and games.
Again, no one gets a full ride in lacrosse . . .
Yup, I everyone knows that. 12.6 scholarships in D1 and 10.8 in D2 that the coaches have to spread across the roster to build the team. But there is still scholarship opportunity. It's just not like football or basketball. However, 25% of tuition, plus anything else academically is pretry good whether is private or public. Get good grades, play hard, be well rounded, join clubs, play other sports, and be your own promoter to the college of your choice is the advice I keep hearing. Most recently at a prospect day of a top 10 school. There are teams with over dozen recruits from the class and teams with little to none. Prently of opportunity for all these kids.
But any money that is not athletic scholarship is not tied to the NLI, which was what the poster was speaking to. Additionally, academic scholarships and the like can come in many forms and are not guaranteed for four years either - in many cases you need to maintain a minimum GPA etc to continue to receive academic money.
For the most part we are going to send our kids to college regardless of athletic scholarships - no Athletic money at Ivy's - very little at most Patriot league and no Athletic money at any of the great D3 schools but family's in our communities still send kids to these colleges. Maybe a 25% athletic scholarship is what makes a private school the same price as a state school.
Most important to me was getting him into a school that he might not have gotten into with lacrosse and trying to find a school that he would have liked to go to if he wasn't a lacrosse player. Take the little athletic money that was offered bundle it with academic money and you can get a nice deal at a good private school and you get to play the game you love at the highest level. And most important..... you dad can go on BOTC and say you got a full ride.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is on the College coach, sign your NLI and the deal is done. Athlete is protected by the NCAA. So is the school. If the kid backs out he loses eligibility, the school can't back out of NLI. And yes it is a business, the school provides an education for free, the athlete is thus an employee of the school. "Work" is practice, workouts and games.
Again, no one gets a full ride in lacrosse . . .
Yup, I everyone knows that. 12.6 scholarships in D1 and 10.8 in D2 that the coaches have to spread across the roster to build the team. But there is still scholarship opportunity. It's just not like football or basketball. However, 25% of tuition, plus anything else academically is pretry good whether is private or public. Get good grades, play hard, be well rounded, join clubs, play other sports, and be your own promoter to the college of your choice is the advice I keep hearing. Most recently at a prospect day of a top 10 school. There are teams with over dozen recruits from the class and teams with little to none. Prently of opportunity for all these kids.
But any money that is not athletic scholarship is not tied to the NLI, which was what the poster was speaking to. Additionally, academic scholarships and the like can come in many forms and are not guaranteed for four years either - in many cases you need to maintain a minimum GPA etc to continue to receive academic money.
I would like to note, keep the grades up (so yes you get to keep the academic $$) but more so, for better opportunities when you graduate
I am fully aware that no one gets a free ride in college lacrosse, I was using the scenario to make a point.....but thanks for correcting me.
Hey Channy, I'm about to put the bird in the oven...how bout a schedule for Friday!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Channy, I'm about to put the bird in the oven...how bout a schedule for Friday!!!
Its going to be dry, make sure you baste it every 15 minutes while waiting.
Lol. This can only be one guy.
Honestly it's rude at this point Express! Thabksgiving is tomorrow. People have families. If you are having a tournament the day after a family holiday at least have the decency to get families the schedule so they can plan. I'm tempted to not even have my son play but I don't want to hurt the rest of the team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honestly it's rude at this point Express! Thabksgiving is tomorrow. People have families. If you are having a tournament the day after a family holiday at least have the decency to get families the schedule so they can plan. I'm tempted to not even have my son play but I don't want to hurt the rest of the team.
Very Noble of you.
Make sure Your Rabil is rested.
As the team probably cant compete without him
you pompous a$$
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honestly it's rude at this point Express! Thabksgiving is tomorrow. People have families. If you are having a tournament the day after a family holiday at least have the decency to get families the schedule so they can plan. I'm tempted to not even have my son play but I don't want to hurt the rest of the team.
Outlaws sent out the schedule earlier in the week. They are playing Express. Send me your sons age and I'll send you the schedule.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honestly it's rude at this point Express! Thabksgiving is tomorrow. People have families. If you are having a tournament the day after a family holiday at least have the decency to get families the schedule so they can plan. I'm tempted to not even have my son play but I don't want to hurt the rest of the team.
Very Noble of you.
Make sure Your Rabil is rested.
As the team probably cant compete without him
you pompous a$$
QUACK!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honestly it's rude at this point Express! Thabksgiving is tomorrow. People have families. If you are having a tournament the day after a family holiday at least have the decency to get families the schedule so they can plan. I'm tempted to not even have my son play but I don't want to hurt the rest of the team.
Very Noble of you.
Make sure Your Rabil is rested.
As the team probably cant compete without him
you pompous a$$
Why is it you read that the team can't compete without my son? I didn't say that. I'm sure I am not the only one with a family and would like to spend Thanksgiving weekend with my family and that I am not the only one that might not be able to bring my son if we can't plan accordingly. So if a bunch of boys do not show up it would hurt the team. That is what I meant, you a$$. My post was a complaint out to Express. I don't normally complain about the organization. I just think this is rude.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honestly it's rude at this point Express! Thabksgiving is tomorrow. People have families. If you are having a tournament the day after a family holiday at least have the decency to get families the schedule so they can plan. I'm tempted to not even have my son play but I don't want to hurt the rest of the team.
Very Noble of you.
Make sure Your Rabil is rested.
As the team probably cant compete without him
you pompous a$$
Why is it you read that the team can't compete without my son? I didn't say that. I'm sure I am not the only one with a family and would like to spend Thanksgiving weekend with my family and that I am not the only one that might not be able to bring my son if we can't plan accordingly. So if a bunch of boys do not show up it would hurt the team. That is what I meant, you a$$. My post was a complaint out to Express. I don't normally complain about the organization. I just think this is rude.
Do us a favor and stay home we will manage without your son.
'Your Tempted?"
QUACK...
Very Noble of you.
Make sure Your Rabil is rested.
As the team probably cant compete without him
you pompous a$$
Why is it you read that the team can't compete without my son? I didn't say that. I'm sure I am not the only one with a family and would like to spend Thanksgiving weekend with my family and that I am not the only one that might not be able to bring my son if we can't plan accordingly. So if a bunch of boys do not show up it would hurt the team. That is what I meant, you a$$. My post was a complaint out to Express. I don't normally complain about the organization. I just think this is rude.
QUACK...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honestly it's rude at this point Express! Thabksgiving is tomorrow. People have families. If you are having a tournament the day after a family holiday at least have the decency to get families the schedule so they can plan. I'm tempted to not even have my son play but I don't want to hurt the rest of the team.
Very Noble of you.
Make sure Your Rabil is rested.
As the team probably cant compete without him
you pompous a$$
Why is it you read that the team can't compete without my son? I didn't say that. I'm sure I am not the only one with a family and would like to spend Thanksgiving weekend with my family and that I am not the only one that might not be able to bring my son if we can't plan accordingly. So if a bunch of boys do not show up it would hurt the team. That is what I meant, you a$$. My post was a complaint out to Express. I don't normally complain about the organization. I just think this is rude.
Why be rude? He has a legitimate complaint and if he wants to voice it why not.
You parents that are so quick to attack another must have nothing to do so sure your don't care about schedule cause you apparently need a life.
Happy thanksgiving and try to be nicer.
You parents that are so quick to attack another must have nothing to do so sure your don't care about schedule cause you apparently need a life.
Happy thanksgiving and try to be nicer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why be rude? He has a legitimate complaint and if he wants to voice it why not.
You parents that are so quick to attack another must have nothing to do so sure your don't care about schedule cause you apparently need a life.
Happy thanksgiving and try to be nicer.
You parents that are so quick to attack another must have nothing to do so sure your don't care about schedule cause you apparently need a life.
Happy thanksgiving and try to be nicer.
What tournament is this weekend?
Is there a schedule for the Mayflower on Friday? What teams are playing ?
We're all patiently waiting for the schedule? It's a little last minute and I don't think it's a rude complaint. People do have lives outside of lacrosse. Shocking I know.
Schedule for Mayflower is on Tourney Machine
Haven't you folks noticed yet that BOTC is not very friendly or supportive of the Express? Play where you want and spend your money where you want, but the Express does not have any friends or support at BOTC. Translated into English there is an Italian saying, "The Fish Stinks From The head".
If you take a moment you can smell the fish every time you access this thread.
I'm LM, and I know what I am talking about.
If you take a moment you can smell the fish every time you access this thread.
I'm LM, and I know what I am talking about.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honestly it's rude at this point Express! Thabksgiving is tomorrow. People have families. If you are having a tournament the day after a family holiday at least have the decency to get families the schedule so they can plan. I'm tempted to not even have my son play but I don't want to hurt the rest of the team.
Very Noble of you.
Make sure Your Rabil is rested.
As the team probably cant compete without him
you pompous a$$
Why is it you read that the team can't compete without my son? I didn't say that. I'm sure I am not the only one with a family and would like to spend Thanksgiving weekend with my family and that I am not the only one that might not be able to bring my son if we can't plan accordingly. So if a bunch of boys do not show up it would hurt the team. That is what I meant, you a$$. My post was a complaint out to Express. I don't normally complain about the organization. I just think this is rude.
Plan to be there all day Friday. That's the way it works you dope.
Don't even explain there are a few of us normal people trying to balance family time and still do sports. Happy thanksgiving and I just try to balance the good with the bad at express.
No wonder our youth lax players have attitudes
Nice work
Nice work
It is annoying not to know......just like all other tourneys....
Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is annoying not to know......just like all other tourneys....
Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Happy Thanksgiving to all!
I have found out after many, many years of doing this that reason the schedules are late like this tournament's schedule is, is because there are not enough teams to complete age groups/brackets, and the tournament is busy giving freebies or combining age groups, or doing other manipulations to have a tournament.
If this event had enough teams in the given age groups the schedule would have been done...
Schedule is out. What a disaster
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Schedule is out. What a disaster
At 8 AM it's Express v Express; At 9 AM it's Express v Express; At 10 AM it's Express v Express. At 11 AM it's Express v Another Club for the championship... At noon it's Express v Express repeat.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Schedule is out. What a disaster
At 8 AM it's Express v Express; At 9 AM it's Express v Express; At 10 AM it's Express v Express. At 11 AM it's Express v Another Club for the championship... At noon it's Express v Express repeat.
I told you so...buyer be very aware
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Schedule is out. What a disaster
At 8 AM it's Express v Express; At 9 AM it's Express v Express; At 10 AM it's Express v Express. At 11 AM it's Express v Another Club for the championship... At noon it's Express v Express repeat.
I told you so...buyer be very aware
But this way they can't lose! It's criminal/evil genius!!
8 out of the 13 teams in 2024-2025 division are express... lol
And they pulled 1 Express team. So it would of been 9
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Schedule is out. What a disaster
At 8 AM it's Express v Express; At 9 AM it's Express v Express; At 10 AM it's Express v Express. At 11 AM it's Express v Another Club for the championship... At noon it's Express v Express repeat.
Channy is a disaster...this tourney is such a waste
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Schedule is out. What a disaster
At 8 AM it's Express v Express; At 9 AM it's Express v Express; At 10 AM it's Express v Express. At 11 AM it's Express v Another Club for the championship... At noon it's Express v Express repeat.
Channy is a disaster...this tourney is such a waste
Couldn't you folks see that before going in? Both Channey and his kids thank you for supporting them and they look forward to sucking you in again next year and also for joing their club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Schedule is out. What a disaster
At 8 AM it's Express v Express; At 9 AM it's Express v Express; At 10 AM it's Express v Express. At 11 AM it's Express v Another Club for the championship... At noon it's Express v Express repeat.
I told you so...buyer be very aware
But this way they can't lose! It's criminal/evil genius!!
Is it too much to ask to have the scores updated. Express does this every tournament. Some of us work and would like to see how our kids team are doing. Lazy lazy.
They can't even update the tourney machine! Joke! SMH
Results:
Express beat Express!
Chaney Wins!
Express beat Express!
Chaney Wins!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They can't even update the tourney machine! Joke! SMH
No but stop by the tournament tent to get stores and pick up a 30 dollar tshirt on your way out.
So damn cheap
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So damn cheap
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Classy!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So damn cheap
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Classy!
Be proud of your Express program
Wear your express gear proudly
Almost down at deez nuts white trash level
proud to be Express?
Seriously.?
Today was a total money grab, low class operation
I'm quote=Anonymous]
Classy! [/quote]
Seriously.?
Today was a total money grab, low class operation
I'm quote=Anonymous]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So damn cheap
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Classy! [/quote]
$800 for box lacrosse? Really??? Having 35 kids on a 2021 last year? Adding a fourth team in 2020 this year? Express putting on half a$$ tournament today. Where does it end? Organization seems focused on its A teams. All others are seemingly left to fend for themselves and be abused with over-pricing and sub- par events.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So damn cheap
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Classy!
Be proud of your Express program
Wear your express gear proudly
Almost down at deez nuts white trash level
Wear it proudly? That's all that was on the fields today, It looked like an express camp out there with all the orange uniforms. Throw in the parents on the sideline wearing express colors you would think it was a cult convention
How can it be a $$ grab when it was 95% Express?!! We paid tuition already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
proud to be Express?
Seriously.?
Today was a total money grab, low class operation
Classy!
Seriously.?
Today was a total money grab, low class operation
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So damn cheap
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Classy!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can it be a $$ grab when it was 95% Express?!! We paid tuition already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
proud to be Express?
Seriously.?
Today was a total money grab, low class operation
Classy!
Seriously.?
Today was a total money grab, low class operation
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So damn cheap
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Every cage looked like Swiss cheese
Goals? No goal?
Put refs in a bad spot
Terrible
Cheap fux
Classy!
Your tuition included fees channy was going to use to pay for tournaments. He just paid himself
Today was a terrible run tourney:
60% of the teams playing were Express
The other 30% we basically Legacy and GC
No teams form out of town outside of Express North
No score updates
No Playoffs
No Vending
But yes, Channy for richer
60% of the teams playing were Express
The other 30% we basically Legacy and GC
No teams form out of town outside of Express North
No score updates
No Playoffs
No Vending
But yes, Channy for richer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today was a terrible run tourney:
60% of the teams playing were Express
The other 30% we basically Legacy and GC
No teams form out of town outside of Express North
No score updates
No Playoffs
No Vending
But yes, Channy for richer
60% of the teams playing were Express
The other 30% we basically Legacy and GC
No teams form out of town outside of Express North
No score updates
No Playoffs
No Vending
But yes, Channy for richer
And worst of all some teams played back to back to back
I don't understand why people come on here to complain. If your not happy with the way Express runs things then why don't you take your son to another team to play ?? It's a business just like any other and if your not happy with the way they do things the the best way to voice you displeasure is to have your child play for another team. That being said I'm sure you are going to find out that the same things happen on all of the bigger club teams, this is how they make their $$$.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$800 for box lacrosse? Really??? Having 35 kids on a 2021 last year? Adding a fourth team in 2020 this year? Express putting on half a$$ tournament today. Where does it end? Organization seems focused on its A teams. All others are seemingly left to fend for themselves and be abused with over-pricing and sub- par events.
But yet they somehow keep filling multiple teams. If you don't like it leave. Don't stay and keep bitching. You just want your kid on the A team, that's it. Move if you are unhappy. The same people complain year after year but keep coming back. There are many other organizations!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't understand why people come on here to complain. If your not happy with the way Express runs things then why don't you take your son to another team to play ?? It's a business just like any other and if your not happy with the way they do things the the best way to voice you displeasure is to have your child play for another team. That being said I'm sure you are going to find out that the same things happen on all of the bigger club teams, this is how they make their $$$.
Not like this. Most clubs at least care about their own players.
Yesterday waste of time and money no way, my kid is on the B team and yesterday both the St A nothing and. Chaminade coach the last game we won. After the game they both told my kid 20 one on one training session with Channy and they think he has a real shot to be the 35th kid on the team. Yesterday was a great day, Express all the way.
Express and LI Yellow Jackets two thieving organizations that everyone keeps paying in to. The question is what is wrong with these parents??????????????????????
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yesterday waste of time and money no way, my kid is on the B team and yesterday both the St A nothing and. Chaminade coach the last game we won. After the game they both told my kid 20 one on one training session with Channy and they think he has a real shot to be the 35th kid on the team. Yesterday was a great day, Express all the way.
Please put that lax money towards ESL classes
My buddy at work his son is on one of the bigger programs and already they have additional cost for tournaments it's about $125 for each tourney I went and looked on there website . But if it's $125 and you have just say 18 kids that's $2250 but a Tournment is what anywhere from $800 to $1000 right. What do most companies
Do with that extra $$$ . This is after you paid full tuition in full. I would just like to know what experience people have that are in these programs , I'm not yet but looking next year . Thanks
Do with that extra $$$ . This is after you paid full tuition in full. I would just like to know what experience people have that are in these programs , I'm not yet but looking next year . Thanks
Pay coaches, insurance, hotel costs. Profit
It's a robbery if you ask me , what does a coach make per game really ? It's youth lacrosse . $100 a game ? What ? All this travel all shady all cash business , orit there books. Rip off
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's a robbery if you ask me , what does a coach make per game really ? It's youth lacrosse . $100 a game ? What ? All this travel all shady all cash business , orit there books. Rip off
Were you going for "audit their books"? They are certainly greedy, but no one is making the many lemmings pay for their kids to play for them.
Fidel Castro died. There is hope.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's a robbery if you ask me , what does a coach make per game really ? It's youth lacrosse . $100 a game ? What ? All this travel all shady all cash business , orit there books. Rip off
So in the last week and a half Express asked for:
$800 for 8 box practices and maybe a play day or two. No shot those play days happen. Once the $800 checks clear the play days dissapear
$650 for tuition (they had the curiosity to send that out the day before thanksgiving). This email actually came out before the schedule for their Friday tourney came out.
$480 for 8 hours of goalie training which seems like a bargin compared to Box
You think with all that cash flow they would be able to get some nets for the cages at their own tourney.
$800 for 8 box practices and maybe a play day or two. No shot those play days happen. Once the $800 checks clear the play days dissapear
$650 for tuition (they had the curiosity to send that out the day before thanksgiving). This email actually came out before the schedule for their Friday tourney came out.
$480 for 8 hours of goalie training which seems like a bargin compared to Box
You think with all that cash flow they would be able to get some nets for the cages at their own tourney.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So in the last week and a half Express asked for:
$800 for 8 box practices and maybe a play day or two. No shot those play days happen. Once the $800 checks clear the play days dissapear
$650 for tuition (they had the curiosity to send that out the day before thanksgiving). This email actually came out before the schedule for their Friday tourney came out.
$480 for 8 hours of goalie training which seems like a bargin compared to Box
You think with all that cash flow they would be able to get some nets for the cages at their own tourney.
$800 for 8 box practices and maybe a play day or two. No shot those play days happen. Once the $800 checks clear the play days dissapear
$650 for tuition (they had the curiosity to send that out the day before thanksgiving). This email actually came out before the schedule for their Friday tourney came out.
$480 for 8 hours of goalie training which seems like a bargin compared to Box
You think with all that cash flow they would be able to get some nets for the cages at their own tourney.
What is the problem? They are offering it because people are crazy enough to do it all! If they didn't people find it else where. They are not telling you you have to sign you kid up. It's YOU that feels they can't have their son miss out!
No matter what an organization does you would complain. Don't do it! But then little Johnny might fall behind... That's what has destroyed this sport. And how many private trainers. You are all nuts so they offer things for all the crazies and they make money. I don't blame them. I just pick the ones I think will benefit my son. Move on people!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yesterday waste of time and money no way, my kid is on the B team and yesterday both the St A nothing and. Chaminade coach the last game we won. After the game they both told my kid 20 one on one training session with Channy and they think he has a real shot to be the 35th kid on the team. Yesterday was a great day, Express all the way.
Dude proof read what you write. That is an incoherent babble. Put down the solo cup for a minute.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's a robbery if you ask me , what does a coach make per game really ? It's youth lacrosse . $100 a game ? What ? All this travel all shady all cash business , orit there books. Rip off
You can write "shut". It's not a dirty word.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's a robbery if you ask me , what does a coach make per game really ? It's youth lacrosse . $100 a game ? What ? All this travel all shady all cash business , orit there books. Rip off
You can write "shut". It's not a dirty word.
He wrong [lacrosse] but not shut up
Loo
Everyone all over this Lax scholarship to bad less than 50% of Div 1 and Div 2 players get a athletic scholarship or anything. Stop drinking the Kool Aid people
Put your Money in a 529 college fund.
Put your Money in a 529 college fund.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's a robbery if you ask me , what does a coach make per game really ? It's youth lacrosse . $100 a game ? What ? All this travel all shady all cash business , orit there books. Rip off
You can write "shut". It's not a dirty word.
He wrong [lacrosse] but not shut up
Loo
Was that in English.
Issue is not scholarships. Issue is also not Express making money. This is America and they are entitled. The issue, at least for me, is the quality of the product they provide for what they charge. I dont begrudge the guy who paints my house making money. However, if he leaves drips everywhere I have an issue. I agree we all have choices and need to make them more often. If their tournaments stink or they have too many players on the team or they treat their B and C teams like crap, then go elsewhere. If the guy botches the paint job on my house I dont rehire him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$800 for box lacrosse? Really??? Having 35 kids on a 2021 last year? Adding a fourth team in 2020 this year? Express putting on half a$$ tournament today. Where does it end? Organization seems focused on its A teams. All others are seemingly left to fend for themselves and be abused with over-pricing and sub- par events.
But yet they somehow keep filling multiple teams. If you don't like it leave. Don't stay and keep bitching. You just want your kid on the A team, that's it. Move if you are unhappy. The same people complain year after year but keep coming back. There are many other organizations!
Bingo! What's the saying? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me
There is probably 500 or more people who could be hired to paint your house. Unfortunately travel lacrosse, which alot has to do wirh location to where one lives, there aren't too many options. Go elsewhere is sometimes easier said then done.
Where do you live? There are alot of choices now, if you are that unhappy it is not worth driving the extra 20 mins.
And nine d one doesn't do the same with my lacrosse tournaments ? Like a previous poster said , don't join. Problem is parents are addicted to club lacrosse thinking their kid will be recruited. Wake up people.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is probably 500 or more people who could be hired to paint your house. Unfortunately travel lacrosse, which alot has to do wirh location to where one lives, there aren't too many options. Go elsewhere is sometimes easier said then done.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express and LI Yellow Jackets two thieving organizations that everyone keeps paying in to. The question is what is wrong with these parents??????????????????????
CR has been double dipping for years on her tournament circuit no diferent than express vs express all day at their events
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express and LI Yellow Jackets two thieving organizations that everyone keeps paying in to. The question is what is wrong with these parents??????????????????????
CR has been double dipping for years on her tournament circuit no diferent than express vs express all day at their events
We're all doing just fine. Our kids are playing in great tournaments, and learning to be better lacrosse players. Thanks for asking.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express and LI Yellow Jackets two thieving organizations that everyone keeps paying in to. The question is what is wrong with these parents??????????????????????
CR has been double dipping for years on her tournament circuit no diferent than express vs express all day at their events
We're all doing just fine. Our kids are playing in great tournaments, and learning to be better lacrosse players. Thanks for asking.
If you don't have a problem with either organization I don't know what to say. Seems you are following people blindly while getting blatantly screwed. But if the only thing that matters is your kid playing lacrosse I guess you are in the right spot but it is kind of sad that these directors laugh at people like you that follow them blindly while they keep cashing your monsterous checks. Good luck!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express and LI Yellow Jackets two thieving organizations that everyone keeps paying in to. The question is what is wrong with these parents??????????????????????
CR has been double dipping for years on her tournament circuit no diferent than express vs express all day at their events
We're all doing just fine. Our kids are playing in great tournaments, and learning to be better lacrosse players. Thanks for asking.
If you don't have a problem with either organization I don't know what to say. Seems you are following people blindly while getting blatantly screwed. But if the only thing that matters is your kid playing lacrosse I guess you are in the right spot but it is kind of sad that these directors laugh at people like you that follow them blindly while they keep cashing your monsterous checks. Good luck!
I pulled my boys from express a few years ago for all the reasons listed on this thread. But the truth is most clubs are like that. I woukd like to hear from the people that are trashing express where they have their kids are playing. All the top clubs are the same. Even the next level B. Clubs.
Not really the same all over because of the tournament box component. These two clubs are in a class by themselves.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not really the same all over because of the tournament box component. These two clubs are in a class by themselves.
Doesn't mean it a good class! ;-)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express and LI Yellow Jackets two thieving organizations that everyone keeps paying in to. The question is what is wrong with these parents??????????????????????
CR has been double dipping for years on her tournament circuit no diferent than express vs express all day at their events
My son left Express to play for Fighting Ducks. Is the program less prestigious? Of course, but the coaches work hard and care, my son's skills have improved and they are getting kids exposure and have great college contacts. You have to choose what's best for your son and have the courage to walk. Express has 30 kids on a team, how much attention does your son get? With so many kids, they can't recommend all of them to colleges.
We're all doing just fine. Our kids are playing in great tournaments, and learning to be better lacrosse players. Thanks for asking.
If you don't have a problem with either organization I don't know what to say. Seems you are following people blindly while getting blatantly screwed. But if the only thing that matters is your kid playing lacrosse I guess you are in the right spot but it is kind of sad that these directors laugh at people like you that follow them blindly while they keep cashing your monsterous checks. Good luck!
I pulled my boys from express a few years ago for all the reasons listed on this thread. But the truth is most clubs are like that. I woukd like to hear from the people that are trashing express where they have their kids are playing. All the top clubs are the same. Even the next level B. Clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is probably 500 or more people who could be hired to paint your house. Unfortunately travel lacrosse, which alot has to do wirh location to where one lives, there aren't too many options. Go elsewhere is sometimes easier said then done.
My son left Express to play for Fighting Ducks. Is the program less prestigious? Of course, but the coaches work hard and care, my son's skills have improved and they are getting kids exposure and have great college contacts. You have to choose what's best for your son and have the courage to walk. Express has 30 kids on a team, how much attention does your son get? With so many kids, they can't recommend all of them to colleges.
This is my third time through the process. The best advice I can give is to find a program that you feel will help your son develop and be the best he can, and that treats him and you with respect (not easy). Remember why you are doing this. Not everyone is going to play at Duke or Maryland, so keep that in mind. Be realistic with your sons abilities and goals. In order to play in college you don't need to be on the "best" club or go to the "best" tournament. There are some great d2 and d3 schools where your son can play lax and get a good education. Be realistic and honest with yourself. Don't get caught up in the hype.
Best advice I've heard on this forum in a long time.
2nd that Great advice thanks .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is my third time through the process. The best advice I can give is to find a program that you feel will help your son develop and be the best he can, and that treats him and you with respect (not easy). Remember why you are doing this. Not everyone is going to play at Duke or Maryland, so keep that in mind. Be realistic with your sons abilities and goals. In order to play in college you don't need to be on the "best" club or go to the "best" tournament. There are some great d2 and d3 schools where your son can play lax and get a good education. Be realistic and honest with yourself. Don't get caught up in the hype.
Maryland?? Not a school I would want my son to strive for. Always a bridesmaid, mediocre school to begin with.
I guess the package never came
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess the package never came
Maryland was always the bottom of the barrel academically in the ACC, and now they are the same in the Big 10.
YES! Particularly that last line. Don't get caught up in the hype.
We love our kids so much and generally think so much of them that we let our own aspirations and competitiveness limit our vision sometimes. It is very hard to be unbiased or objective about your kids.
We love our kids so much and generally think so much of them that we let our own aspirations and competitiveness limit our vision sometimes. It is very hard to be unbiased or objective about your kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is my third time through the process. The best advice I can give is to find a program that you feel will help your son develop and be the best he can, and that treats him and you with respect (not easy). Remember why you are doing this. Not everyone is going to play at Duke or Maryland, so keep that in mind. Be realistic with your sons abilities and goals. In order to play in college you don't need to be on the "best" club or go to the "best" tournament. There are some great d2 and d3 schools where your son can play lax and get a good education. Be realistic and honest with yourself. Don't get caught up in the hype.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess the package never came
Maryland was always the bottom of the barrel academically in the ACC, and now they are the same in the Big 10.
If Tillman showed interest, you'd be singing their praises and sporting Terp gear every day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess the package never came
Was never even a consideration, looking for top 20, and got it
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YES! Particularly that last line. Don't get caught up in the hype.
We love our kids so much and generally think so much of them that we let our own aspirations and competitiveness limit our vision sometimes. It is very hard to be unbiased or objective about your kids.
We love our kids so much and generally think so much of them that we let our own aspirations and competitiveness limit our vision sometimes. It is very hard to be unbiased or objective about your kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is my third time through the process. The best advice I can give is to find a program that you feel will help your son develop and be the best he can, and that treats him and you with respect (not easy). Remember why you are doing this. Not everyone is going to play at Duke or Maryland, so keep that in mind. Be realistic with your sons abilities and goals. In order to play in college you don't need to be on the "best" club or go to the "best" tournament. There are some great d2 and d3 schools where your son can play lax and get a good education. Be realistic and honest with yourself. Don't get caught up in the hype.
I've been through this process twice and having realistic expectations has always served us well. I was surprised when my oldest was courted by three or four top 20 D1 schools and committed to one of them. I'm hoping my second child finds a school he loves and can play....SUNY, D2, D3 whatever. Kids can have a great experience regardless of the division the team plays in. In fact, I know of far more kids unhappy with their D1 experience than kids unhappy with D2 or D3.
I feel bad for my first son. I will call him guinea pig. He is on a high level team and is not happy. It's a lot of pressure and to him it feels more like a job. Second son is on a newer club with excellent coaching but not all of the flash and is so happy. He has improved more in one year than my older son. And I just wish my older guy was on a team like that. We will be looking for a new team in the summer for my first son bc the bottom line is, we just want them happy. Sports is suppose to have some level of fun to it.
What year is your first son?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maryland?? Not a school I would want my son to strive for. Always a bridesmaid, mediocre school to begin with.
People never cease to amaze me. You have NO idea what you are talking about.
Not sure what difference it makes what year he is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maryland?? Not a school I would want my son to strive for. Always a bridesmaid, mediocre school to begin with.
People never cease to amaze me. You have NO idea what you are talking about.
Facts are facts! So many better options
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maryland?? Not a school I would want my son to strive for. Always a bridesmaid, mediocre school to begin with.
People never cease to amaze me. You have NO idea what you are talking about.
Facts are facts! So many better options
Per US News
UM, College Park-
#60 nationally (only about 20 of which have MLAX)
#20 public university
#19 business
#24 engineering
It's a terrific school. Not ivy, duke, stanford etc but most students would be fortunate to have MD as an option
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maryland?? Not a school I would want my son to strive for. Always a bridesmaid, mediocre school to begin with.
People never cease to amaze me. You have NO idea what you are talking about.
Facts are facts! So many better options
Yeah but, Don't rip on the owners kid.
If you are from in-state, you need a 4.0 and near perfect score on your SAT to get into Maryland. I know a lot of kids who got into highly competitive universities and were denied from Maryland. This isn't the 1980's
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are from in-state, you need a 4.0 and near perfect score on your SAT to get into Maryland. I know a lot of kids who got into highly competitive universities and were denied from Maryland. This isn't the 1980's
It's easier for a Virginia resident to get into UVA than a Maryland resident to get into Maryland these days.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are from in-state, you need a 4.0 and near perfect score on your SAT to get into Maryland. I know a lot of kids who got into highly competitive universities and were denied from Maryland. This isn't the 1980's
Maryland isnt even a top 50 school! Give me a break! They take about half of the kids tha apply
Are we going to take shots at colleges now. Ranked number 60 with a wide range of majors and a strong alumni makes this a good school.
Maryland isnt even a top 50 school! Give me a break! They take about half of the kids tha apply
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are from in-state, you need a 4.0 and near perfect score on your SAT to get into Maryland. I know a lot of kids who got into highly competitive universities and were denied from Maryland. This isn't the 1980's
Maryland isnt even a top 50 school! Give me a break! They take about half of the kids tha apply
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are we going to take shots at colleges now. Ranked number 60 with a wide range of majors and a strong alumni makes this a good school.
Maryland isnt even a top 50 school! Give me a break! They take about half of the kids tha apply
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are from in-state, you need a 4.0 and near perfect score on your SAT to get into Maryland. I know a lot of kids who got into highly competitive universities and were denied from Maryland. This isn't the 1980's
Maryland isnt even a top 50 school! Give me a break! They take about half of the kids tha apply
Good school, just not elite
Me Just worried about lacrosse. No care about education. We bang on wall all day. No time for books.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are from in-state, you need a 4.0 and near perfect score on your SAT to get into Maryland. I know a lot of kids who got into highly competitive universities and were denied from Maryland. This isn't the 1980's
It's easier for a Virginia resident to get into UVA than a Maryland resident to get into Maryland these days.
Whether it's the 80s, 90s, or currently, a degree from UVA is considered far superior to Maryland. It's not even close.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are from in-state, you need a 4.0 and near perfect score on your SAT to get into Maryland. I know a lot of kids who got into highly competitive universities and were denied from Maryland. This isn't the 1980's
It's easier for a Virginia resident to get into UVA than a Maryland resident to get into Maryland these days.
Whether it's the 80s, 90s, or currently, a degree from UVA is considered far superior to Maryland. It's not even close.
MC son had to leave Princeton and wound up at MD, was supposed help them earn a Ship, but failed. MC takes the rejects of the better schools
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are from in-state, you need a 4.0 and near perfect score on your SAT to get into Maryland. I know a lot of kids who got into highly competitive universities and were denied from Maryland. This isn't the 1980's
It's easier for a Virginia resident to get into UVA than a Maryland resident to get into Maryland these days.
Whether it's the 80s, 90s, or currently, a degree from UVA is considered far superior to Maryland. It's not even close.
MC son had to leave Princeton and wound up at MD, was supposed help them earn a Ship, but failed. MC takes the rejects of the better schools
oooh, that's harsh. What's he doing now with his wonderful education?
What kind of ship? Schooner, sloop, destroyer or maybe an aircraft carrier
You my friend have no class.... regardless of how you feel about MC and Express as a whole there's no reason to bring his son's college career into the conversation. Might be time for you to look in the mirror instead of criticizing others
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are from in-state, you need a 4.0 and near perfect score on your SAT to get into Maryland. I know a lot of kids who got into highly competitive universities and were denied from Maryland. This isn't the 1980's
It's easier for a Virginia resident to get into UVA than a Maryland resident to get into Maryland these days.
Whether it's the 80s, 90s, or currently, a degree from UVA is considered far superior to Maryland. It's not even close.
MC son had to leave Princeton and wound up at MD, was supposed help them earn a Ship, but failed. MC takes the rejects of the better schools
Absolutely classless comment!!! MC Jr is a great player, coach and person. I have had a lot of interaction with this young man and he is a gentlemen. He is an advocate for our sport and from Long Island. cant believe the crap and venom that is spewed on here.
Originally Posted by America's Game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are from in-state, you need a 4.0 and near perfect score on your SAT to get into Maryland. I know a lot of kids who got into highly competitive universities and were denied from Maryland. This isn't the 1980's
It's easier for a Virginia resident to get into UVA than a Maryland resident to get into Maryland these days.
Whether it's the 80s, 90s, or currently, a degree from UVA is considered far superior to Maryland. It's not even close.
MC son had to leave Princeton and wound up at MD, was supposed help them earn a Ship, but failed. MC takes the rejects of the better schools
Absolutely classless comment!!! MC Jr is a great player, coach and person. I have had a lot of interaction with this young man and he is a gentlemen. He is an advocate for our sport and from Long Island. cant believe the crap and venom that is spewed on here.
Why is it classless? Are those not the facts? Things are said about adults on this forum all the time. He did leave Princeton(#1 school?. He did not win a Championship at MD. MD is not in the same leauge as Princeton. Where is the problem, these are facts. His father has also taken advantage of many, which puts him in a spotlight. Nobody attacked his character as a person, I'm sure he's a very nice person. The talk on the forum was abut Maryland as a top school. It is not.
Actually it was classless. You weren't stating facts, you were making a statement to make him look bad. And the "ship" comment is really lame. If you're too lazy to write championship just don't post.
Totally classless. The amount of hate being spewed as an anonymous poster is unreal on this forum.
Because anonymous posters can't get punched in the face!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Because anonymous posters can't get punched in the face!!
Me work for town of brookhaven. Me still bench press 350. Me a Strong Island tough guy. Me going to punch you in face.
Moron.
No, the moron is the guy who drops an insult on an anonymous web site. Maybe moron is too strong of a word, coward comes to mind. I never threatened to "punch you in the face" I implied that people are nasty and make nasty comments on here because it is anonymous. That the same person would never say the same in public for fear of getting punched. So no I won't punch you in the face for calling me a moron, but I will call you a chickensh*t for being a keyboard tough guy! Anonymously of course!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, the moron is the guy who drops an insult on an anonymous web site. Maybe moron is too strong of a word, coward comes to mind. I never threatened to "punch you in the face" I implied that people are nasty and make nasty comments on here because it is anonymous. That the same person would never say the same in public for fear of getting punched. So no I won't punch you in the face for calling me a moron, but I will call you a chickensh*t for being a keyboard tough guy! Anonymously of course!
Of course. That's the new world order. I don't see you signing your name.......
Express has burned a lot of bridges because of greed. What comes around goes around. Now they don't even have a top team at any age group.
They (Express & Channey) certainly burnt the bridge to BOTC....
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
They (Express & Channey) certainly burnt the bridge to BOTC....
Sure, but really, what top club hasn't?
On the other hand, at least the Express have stayed off the 'asterisk list', so that counts for something, right?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
They (Express & Channey) certainly burnt the bridge to BOTC....
Sure, but really, what top club hasn't?
On the other hand, at least the Express have stayed off the 'asterisk list', so that counts for something, right?
RECON is very reputable. Maybe Channy should emulate quality instead of catholic school greed!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, the moron is the guy who drops an insult on an anonymous web site. Maybe moron is too strong of a word, coward comes to mind. I never threatened to "punch you in the face" I implied that people are nasty and make nasty comments on here because it is anonymous. That the same person would never say the same in public for fear of getting punched. So no I won't punch you in the face for calling me a moron, but I will call you a chickensh*t for being a keyboard tough guy! Anonymously of course!
Look who's talking, i don't see your name on your post.
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
They (Express & Channey) certainly burnt the bridge to BOTC....
How, what do you mean?
Right I didn't post my name, but then again the only person I'm insulting is a guy who is ripping on someone else, see I'm the ripper of the ripee....get it? anonymously of course!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
They (Express & Channey) certainly burnt the bridge to BOTC....
Sure, but really, what top club hasn't?
On the other hand, at least the Express have stayed off the 'asterisk list', so that counts for something, right?
RECON is very reputable. Maybe Channy should emulate quality instead of catholic school greed!!
How is that 2023 Recon team, heard they put together a very good B+ team, anyone have any input on that team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
They (Express & Channey) certainly burnt the bridge to BOTC....
Sure, but really, what top club hasn't?
On the other hand, at least the Express have stayed off the 'asterisk list', so that counts for something, right?
Can someone explain the whole asterisk thing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
They (Express & Channey) certainly burnt the bridge to BOTC....
Sure, but really, what top club hasn't?
On the other hand, at least the Express have stayed off the 'asterisk list', so that counts for something, right?
Don't post about any non-AA or A teams on BOTC - they're all insignificant per too many on these boards!
RECON is very reputable. Maybe Channy should emulate quality instead of catholic school greed!!
How is that 2023 Recon team, heard they put together a very good B+ team, anyone have any input on that team?
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
They (Express & Channey) certainly burnt the bridge to BOTC....
Express as an organization is fine, it's the lying thieving Channey who will say one thing to your face and at the same time drive the knife into your back twisting ever so slightly as he smiles.
Don't trust anything that comes out his mouth.. REALLY!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
They (Express & Channey) certainly burnt the bridge to BOTC....
Sure, but really, what top club hasn't?
On the other hand, at least the Express have stayed off the 'asterisk list', so that counts for something, right?
Can someone explain the whole asterisk thing?
When a club does something that BOTC determines to be wrong (ie, cancelling a tournament and not refunding money....or taking advantage of teams, etc), they will not allow that club to be referenced by name on its forum. Anytime that club is mentioned in a post, the moderators will adjust the type to be [***].
Personally, why would you want to give publicity to a club that isn't going to do right by its players or potential players.
However, since there are several that have landed here the reader is left to try and decipher creative spellings to know what club is being talked about. Without creative spelling, you have no way of telling if the poster is writing about [***], [***] or even [***]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
They (Express & Channey) certainly burnt the bridge to BOTC....
Sure, but really, what top club hasn't?
On the other hand, at least the Express have stayed off the 'asterisk list', so that counts for something, right?
How does that work when there is a whole board for Team Revolution and its $ issues??
Can someone explain the whole asterisk thing?
When a club does something that BOTC determines to be wrong (ie, cancelling a tournament and not refunding money....or taking advantage of teams, etc), they will not allow that club to be referenced by name on its forum. Anytime that club is mentioned in a post, the moderators will adjust the type to be [***].
Personally, why would you want to give publicity to a club that isn't going to do right by its players or potential players.
However, since there are several that have landed here the reader is left to try and decipher creative spellings to know what club is being talked about. Without creative spelling, you have no way of telling if the poster is writing about [***], [***] or even [***]
For the LEgacy of 91
new to this- so what has Channey done so wrong?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
new to this- so what has Channey done so wrong?
Told the truth about Jr. not making the A team and ruined a lot Dad's dreams.
Yes he told the truth to us a couple of years ago. My kid top recruit D1,did I tell you the kids he pick over my kid their parents make a lot more money then me. Don't be fooled he goes money over talent a lot. That's why they are not a power house anymore.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes he told the truth to us a couple of years ago. My kid top recruit D1,did I tell you the kids he pick over my kid their parents make a lot more money then me. Don't be fooled he goes money over talent a lot. That's why they are not a power house anymore.
What team did your kid play for if not on the A team and got recruited to top D1?
Just curious because my son has sick stick skills but is short and gets overlooked because of size.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes he told the truth to us a couple of years ago. My kid top recruit D1,did I tell you the kids he pick over my kid their parents make a lot more money then me. Don't be fooled he goes money over talent a lot. That's why they are not a power house anymore.
What team did your kid play for if not on the A team and got recruited to top D1?
Just curious because my son has sick stick skills but is short and gets overlooked because of size.
Go to another Club... Wow, you can't figure that out? There are 10 different clubs out there. If your son is really good, get him on a team where he'll start and play a lot. Make a highlight reel, email coaches of programs with highlight reel and his interest in that school.. If they like him he'll get recruited. If no interest, then Channy was right!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes he told the truth to us a couple of years ago. My kid top recruit D1,did I tell you the kids he pick over my kid their parents make a lot more money then me. Don't be fooled he goes money over talent a lot. That's why they are not a power house anymore.
What team did your kid play for if not on the A team and got recruited to top D1?
Just curious because my son has sick stick skills but is short and gets overlooked because of size.
Leave him back two years and stay with express. Will be ACC recruit!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes he told the truth to us a couple of years ago. My kid top recruit D1,did I tell you the kids he pick over my kid their parents make a lot more money then me. Don't be fooled he goes money over talent a lot. That's why they are not a power house anymore.
Bingo, someone finally said it and great for your boy!
Dont be fooled...MC also has kids playing for free if they are really really good and it fits his team. Ask the 2022s they have a full scholarship kid
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont be fooled...MC also has kids playing for free if they are really really good and it fits his team. Ask the 2022's they have a full scholarship kid
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont be fooled...MC also has kids playing for free if they are really really good and it fits his team. Ask the 2022s they have a full scholarship kid
Don't be fooled...lol...He is a JEDI...he lets kids play for free but he's all about the money...He wants $ unless your good...wait I forgot he takes the parents who are the most wealthy over the talented...I am confused..maybe this is all lies...No WAY...Couldn't be.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont be fooled...MC also has kids playing for free if they are really really good and it fits his team. Ask the 2022's they have a full scholarship kid
The Lemmings don't dare to speak up against the Express/Scientology leader Channy/L. Ron Hubbard. He and his shiny full set of Chicklets are all knowing!
That was just a pay for the first two kids (younger grade) get the third one free deal.
MC is a liar and a cheat .He represents everything that is crooked and broken in youth lacrosse. He has spent years bsing hundreds of kids.There is no lower station to exist than the one where an adult cheats kids on a daily basis.He should be tarred,feathered and run out of town on a rail
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC is a liar and a cheat .He represents everything that is crooked and broken in youth lacrosse. He has spent years bsing hundreds of kids.There is no lower station to exist than the one where an adult cheats kids on a daily basis.He should be tarred,feathered and run out of town on a rail
I am sick and tired of all of the "daddy's big dream lax player didn't pan out" sob stories. Take your ego out of the equation and see your kid for what he is. If he was good enough, he'd be on an A team and be in a great position to gain valuable high level experience and ultimately exposure to colleges and maybe gain access to a good school and maybe even play college lax. but yours didn't (and won't with your attitude). he is just not good enough.
MC is a good judge of talent and will slot your kid where he belongs in his organization. If you think that is enough for your kid, then fine. but don't come here disparaging the man because your kid just isn't that good. Most of the players on his A teams invest in much time with private coaches and practice every day all year. That is what it takes for many to be an A player.
Get off of the guys back and take your kid elsewhere. pay for extra training. get out there with your kid and practice. success in this sport is definitely there for those who want it bad enough and will do what it takes. Your bitching and whining is not making your kid any better.
try harder in the next year or try another sport.
I did not write the original post , but the guy is spot on, MC has no morals.from a D1 dad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC is a liar and a cheat .He represents everything that is crooked and broken in youth lacrosse. He has spent years bsing hundreds of kids.There is no lower station to exist than the one where an adult cheats kids on a daily basis.He should be tarred,feathered and run out of town on a rail
I am sick and tired of all of the "daddy's big dream lax player didn't pan out" sob stories. Take your ego out of the equation and see your kid for what he is. If he was good enough, he'd be on an A team and be in a great position to gain valuable high level experience and ultimately exposure to colleges and maybe gain access to a good school and maybe even play college lax. but yours didn't (and won't with your attitude). he is just not good enough.
MC is a good judge of talent and will slot your kid where he belongs in his organization. If you think that is enough for your kid, then fine. but don't come here disparaging the man because your kid just isn't that good. Most of the players on his A teams invest in much time with private coaches and practice every day all year. That is what it takes for many to be an A player.
Get off of the guys back and take your kid elsewhere. pay for extra training. get out there with your kid and practice. success in this sport is definitely there for those who want it bad enough and will do what it takes. Your bitching and whining is not making your kid any better.
try harder in the next year or try another sport.
Totally agree. If your kid has the skill, athleticism, and drive, he will have a shot at college lacrosse. Don't blame MC for your child's shortfalls. Blame yourself.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC is a liar and a cheat .He represents everything that is crooked and broken in youth lacrosse. He has spent years bsing hundreds of kids.There is no lower station to exist than the one where an adult cheats kids on a daily basis.He should be tarred,feathered and run out of town on a rail
I am sick and tired of all of the "daddy's big dream lax player didn't pan out" sob stories. Take your ego out of the equation and see your kid for what he is. If he was good enough, he'd be on an A team and be in a great position to gain valuable high level experience and ultimately exposure to colleges and maybe gain access to a good school and maybe even play college lax. but yours didn't (and won't with your attitude). he is just not good enough.
MC is a good judge of talent and will slot your kid where he belongs in his organization. If you think that is enough for your kid, then fine. but don't come here disparaging the man because your kid just isn't that good. Most of the players on his A teams invest in much time with private coaches and practice every day all year. That is what it takes for many to be an A player.
Get off of the guys back and take your kid elsewhere. pay for extra training. get out there with your kid and practice. success in this sport is definitely there for those who want it bad enough and will do what it takes. Your bitching and whining is not making your kid any better.
try harder in the next year or try another sport.
If he is such a good judge of talent, then why doesn't he put together top teams anymore? His teams are struggling in pretty much every age group. They used to be top club on LI, they are now just another in the mix.
Judge of talent? Lol. Look at that really fast kid that goes teneciously after every ground balls. Anybody can judge and coach talent at the youth level. Show me a coach who is willing to develop a 22 man roster.
Congratulations your Son hasmade the roster of the Terps 2023. please send $750 to secure his spot.Smash cut to 4 months later and you are told at 8:45pm
the night before the first Tourni that you are in fact on the Terps ll (cute)
and wont be playing with the team you payed to be on. That is the Express way in a nutshell. That has nothing to do with "Daddy's big dream" but the flawed character of an Adult who should be taken to task for his dishonesty.
One example ,there are countless others.
the night before the first Tourni that you are in fact on the Terps ll (cute)
and wont be playing with the team you payed to be on. That is the Express way in a nutshell. That has nothing to do with "Daddy's big dream" but the flawed character of an Adult who should be taken to task for his dishonesty.
One example ,there are countless others.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations your Son hasmade the roster of the Terps 2023. please send $750 to secure his spot.Smash cut to 4 months later and you are told at 8:45pm
the night before the first Tourni that you are in fact on the Terps ll (cute)
and wont be playing with the team you payed to be on. That is the Express way in a nutshell. That has nothing to do with "Daddy's big dream" but the flawed character of an Adult who should be taken to task for his dishonesty.
One example ,there are countless others.
the night before the first Tourni that you are in fact on the Terps ll (cute)
and wont be playing with the team you payed to be on. That is the Express way in a nutshell. That has nothing to do with "Daddy's big dream" but the flawed character of an Adult who should be taken to task for his dishonesty.
One example ,there are countless others.
Weasel!
Thats Mr. Weasel to you!
My kid played on an Express team last year for free. He didn't tryout we got called so it does happen. That said it was a miserable experience for my kid so even for free we didn't go back this year. I would rather pay and have him enjoy it then play for MC. The guy is trulying the worst!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid played on an Express team last year for free. He didn't tryout we got called so it does happen. That said it was a miserable experience for my kid so even for free we didn't go back this year. I would rather pay and have him enjoy it then play for MC. The guy is trulying the worst!
What year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid played on an Express team last year for free. He didn't tryout we got called so it does happen. That said it was a miserable experience for my kid so even for free we didn't go back this year. I would rather pay and have him enjoy it then play for MC. The guy is trulying the worst!
Calling BS on that, sorry, just doesn't pass the smell test.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid played on an Express team last year for free. He didn't tryout we got called so it does happen. That said it was a miserable experience for my kid so even for free we didn't go back this year. I would rather pay and have him enjoy it then play for MC. The guy is trulying the worst!
Calling BS on that, sorry, just doesn't pass the smell test.
Why doesn't it pass your smell test? I know of a few kids that play express for free. Most are goalies or fogo's. My kid wouldn't want to play Express again. Honestly playing for free came with its own issues. Don't for a second think MC didn't ask repeatedly for us to pay even though the deal was we weren't paying from the beginning.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid played on an Express team last year for free. He didn't tryout we got called so it does happen. That said it was a miserable experience for my kid so even for free we didn't go back this year. I would rather pay and have him enjoy it then play for MC. The guy is trulying the worst!
Calling BS on that, sorry, just doesn't pass the smell test.
Why doesn't it pass your smell test? I know of a few kids that play express for free. Most are goalies or fogo's. My kid wouldn't want to play Express again. Honestly playing for free came with its own issues. Don't for a second think MC didn't ask repeatedly for us to pay even though the deal was we weren't paying from the beginning.
I know you are correct, the same happened to my son, ignore the other poster he trolls all the threads and calls "BS" on everything. He does not have a clue how lax works because his son is a b team scrub.
Im an express parent , my son has made great strides in his game , my son and our family have made tremendous relationships with other families .i would bet some boys don't pay due to financial need or bieng a great player if so its not my business. I have seen other teams at express they all try hard, usually do well and seem to have good coaches .
If there is a financial hardship im all for not paying. I would never want to see a kid left out. If your a FoGo only I can seen maybe paying a little less (MAYBE). Goalie should pay full boat.
MC is the face of Express but he is only a partner, why not call out Wieczorek, Moran or Schwalje? they are profiting from all the things being complained about on here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If there is a financial hardship im all for not paying. I would never want to see a kid left out. If your a FoGo only I can seen maybe paying a little less (MAYBE). Goalie should pay full boat.
Isn't it customary goalies get free rides.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC is the face of Express but he is only a partner, why not call out Wieczorek, Moran or Schwalje? they are profiting from all the things being complained about on here.
Because the lemmings don't want their little Paul Rabil to not have a look when they send their kid to St A or Cham.
I've never heard that about Goalies.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If there is a financial hardship im all for not paying. I would never want to see a kid left out. If your a FoGo only I can seen maybe paying a little less (MAYBE). Goalie should pay full boat.
Isn't it customary goalies get free rides.
Maybe if a team can't get a decent goalie under normal try out circumstances . . .?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If there is a financial hardship im all for not paying. I would never want to see a kid left out. If your a FoGo only I can seen maybe paying a little less (MAYBE). Goalie should pay full boat.
Isn't it customary goalies get free rides.
Never.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC is the face of Express but he is only a partner, why not call out Wieczorek, Moran or Schwalje? they are profiting from all the things being complained about on here.
He's not a partner. He's the owner. Rest just get paid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC is the face of Express but he is only a partner, why not call out Wieczorek, Moran or Schwalje? they are profiting from all the things being complained about on here.
He's not a partner. He's the owner. Rest just get paid.
I had always heard they were all partners as well as a 5th guy who left are you sure they are just employess
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC is the face of Express but he is only a partner, why not call out Wieczorek, Moran or Schwalje? they are profiting from all the things being complained about on here.
He's not a partner. He's the owner. Rest just get paid.
I had always heard they were all partners as well as a 5th guy who left are you sure they are just employess
Other guy was partner. Try and get one of the other directors on the phone. MC runs the show.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If there is a financial hardship im all for not paying. I would never want to see a kid left out. If your a FoGo only I can seen maybe paying a little less (MAYBE). Goalie should pay full boat.
Isn't it customary goalies get free rides.
Never.
I wouldn't say customary but it happens. Depends on the team/kid. Town team my kid pays full price. Travel he's had a discount or free at times.
Hard to believe MC gives any breaks at all considering that paying him to play lax will get your kid into heaven, Umm I mean Catholic HS.
I find it odd that the Chaminade School is allowing all this negativity being posted about their lacrosse coach without uttering a word. Highly unusual especially for a parochial school.
Turning the other cheek, it's a Carholic thing
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
I find it odd that the Chaminade School is allowing all this negativity being posted about their lacrosse coach without uttering a word. Highly unusual especially for a parochial school.
(it's not a parochial school)
And what the [lacrosse] are you talking about?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
I find it odd that the Chaminade School is allowing all this negativity being posted about their lacrosse coach without uttering a word. Highly unusual especially for a parochial school.
(it's not a parochial school)
And what the [lacrosse] are you talking about?
Ugh.....it is a parochial school. School suooorted by church. Think it fits the requirement.
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
I find it odd that the Chaminade School is allowing all this negativity being posted about their lacrosse coach without uttering a word. Highly unusual especially for a parochial school.
I think it's because Chaminade realizes that most of these awful posts are from pubescents.Very ignorant ones at that. As for the low brow grown-ups who type these comments, they're most likely pitiful losers in life. Why rub salt into the open wound of their existence?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
I find it odd that the Chaminade School is allowing all this negativity being posted about their lacrosse coach without uttering a word. Highly unusual especially for a parochial school.
I think it's because Chaminade realizes that most of these awful posts are from pubescents.Very ignorant ones at that. As for the low brow grown-ups who type these comments, they're most likely pitiful losers in life. Why rub salt into the open wound of their existence?
I disagree with your assessment that these posts are from 'pubescents'. They are from adults and BOTC believes the comments have validity, since they seem to mirror our personal experience with Chanechuk.
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
I find it odd that the Chaminade School is allowing all this negativity being posted about their lacrosse coach without uttering a word. Highly unusual especially for a parochial school.
I think it's because Chaminade realizes that most of these awful posts are from pubescents.Very ignorant ones at that. As for the low brow grown-ups who type these comments, they're most likely pitiful losers in life. Why rub salt into the open wound of their existence?
I disagree with your assessment that these posts are from 'pubescents'. They are from adults and BOTC believes the comments have validity, since they seem to mirror our personal experience with Chanechuk.
Thanks for the correction.
By the way, I think his name is spelled Chanenchuk and he coaches at St Anthony's. What does he have to do with the nastiness directed at Chaminade H S and its students?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
I find it odd that the Chaminade School is allowing all this negativity being posted about their lacrosse coach without uttering a word. Highly unusual especially for a parochial school.
I think it's because Chaminade realizes that most of these awful posts are from pubescents.Very ignorant ones at that. As for the low brow grown-ups who type these comments, they're most likely pitiful losers in life. Why rub salt into the open wound of their existence?
I disagree with your assessment that these posts are from 'pubescents'. They are from adults and BOTC believes the comments have validity, since they seem to mirror our personal experience with Chanechuk.
Thanks for the correction.
By the way, I think his name is spelled Chanenchuk and he coaches at St Anthony's. What does he have to do with the nastiness directed at Chaminade H S and its students?
Nothing at Chaminade, but he is a huge problem IMO.
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
I find it odd that the Chaminade School is allowing all this negativity being posted about their lacrosse coach without uttering a word. Highly unusual especially for a parochial school.
Larry - can you quote what you are referring too, I went back a bunch of pages and do not see any negativity about their coach, I actually posted about why he does not get called out more (as well as St A and Kellenberg coaches) since they are partners/directors with MC. Full discloser, I am a public school parent whose son has played for MC and Express for a number of years and very happy with the entire experience.
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
I find it odd that the Chaminade School is allowing all this negativity being posted about their lacrosse coach without uttering a word. Highly unusual especially for a parochial school.
Funny to think that any educational entity would care, in the least, what is said on an anonymous lax forum.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Larry Miller]I find it odd that the Chaminade School is allowing all this negativity being posted about their lacrosse coach without uttering a word. Highly unusual especially for a parochial school.
Quote
Funny to think that any educational entity would care, in the least, what is said on an anonymous lax forum.
That would be a very misinformed statement....I'll bet you if anyone called any school admin to what is repeatedly being being posted here about their coach would bring an almost immediate meeting with the coach...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry Miller
I find it odd that the Chaminade School is allowing all this negativity being posted about their lacrosse coach without uttering a word. Highly unusual especially for a parochial school.
Funny to think that any educational entity would care, in the least, what is said on an anonymous lax forum.
How are the clinics at st Anthony's field house ?
My son goes to the defense one. It's very good. He plays for a different club though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are the clinics at st Anthony's field house ?
Money Grab.
Definitely NOT a money grab! Great workout. My son doesn't even play for Express and these clinics have improved his game dramatically.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Definitely NOT a money grab! Great workout. My son doesn't even play for Express and these clinics have improved his game dramatically.
Money grab!
O.K MC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
O.K MC
Is there a clinic to teach the parents not to be completely obnoxious?? I had to sit next to some last weekend and they were awful! The excuses and things they said about the kids on the opposing team were just terrible!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
O.K MC
Is there a clinic to teach the parents not to be completely obnoxious?? I had to sit next to some last weekend and they were awful! The excuses and things they said about the kids on the opposing team were just terrible!
Thanks MC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
O.K MC
Is there a clinic to teach the parents not to be completely obnoxious?? I had to sit next to some last weekend and they were awful! The excuses and things they said about the kids on the opposing team were just terrible!
Thanks MC
Lines. Lines. Lines. Hope to get a touch. No individual pointers unless filling MC's coffer. Scouting talent in order to offer private lessons at $100/hr.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Definitely NOT a money grab! Great workout. My son doesn't even play for Express and these clinics have improved his game dramatically.
Please, so a week or 2 of clinics has improved your kids game dramatically? What do they have the magic formula that nobody else has? It's a total money grab.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Definitely NOT a money grab! Great workout. My son doesn't even play for Express and these clinics have improved his game dramatically.
Money grab!
Is it possible that it is both a money grab and a great work out? seems a lot better than having the kids sleeping in or on the xbox - lots of things are expensive and or money grabs yet still very good, Broadway shows and red wine are two examples of overpriced money grabs that are also very good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Definitely NOT a money grab! Great workout. My son doesn't even play for Express and these clinics have improved his game dramatically.
Money grab!
Is it possible that it is both a money grab and a great work out? seems a lot better than having the kids sleeping in or on the xbox - lots of things are expensive and or money grabs yet still very good, Broadway shows and red wine are two examples of overpriced money grabs that are also very good.
Broadway and red wine.....LMAO. Not helping your case, but thanks for the laugh!
dramatically!!! wow...
I wonder if someone like you even think about what you are saying
really sounds pathetic.
I wonder if someone like you even think about what you are saying
really sounds pathetic.
clinics are great. Hardly a money grab.
it let's the kids stay sharp in the off season and improve their skills so they are ready for the spring.
it let's the kids stay sharp in the off season and improve their skills so they are ready for the spring.
Yes I agree those clinics are good if you have the money.
If they are good if you have the money, they are good if you don't have the money. How much money you have doesn't determine whether or not something is good...it only determines whether you can afford it. Good clinics are good and bad clinics are bad.
That's because those parents believe there are ONLY 2 KIDS. Theirs and everyone elses.
If they are good if you have the money, they are good if you don't have the money. How much money you have doesn't determine whether or not something is good...it only determines whether you can afford it. Good clinics are good and bad clinics are bad.
Wow Herman cant put anything past you.
Yes Herman how simple of you to point that out.
Well, well 2 geniuses named Anonymous. Might I suggest that both of you take a clinic...and I'll pay for them....perhaps the first clinic should be "Get A Life 101."
Originally Posted by Herman
If they are good if you have the money, they are good if you don't have the money. How much money you have doesn't determine whether or not something is good...it only determines whether you can afford it. Good clinics are good and bad clinics are bad.
How much could a chanenchuk chuck if a chanenchuk could chuck wood?
Herman come on down to lab Grandpa has something to teach you.
Question, how much does a clinic have to be to be considered good and not a money grab. Call me old fashion, $40/$50 for an 1 1/2 hr. but no more than $60. but it is not always about price.
To me, a great clinic has 8/10 kids per position or station and is less than $80. If more than 10 kids per position/station or over $80 its crazy.
Always great to cross pollinate to various clubs clinics.
To me, a great clinic has 8/10 kids per position or station and is less than $80. If more than 10 kids per position/station or over $80 its crazy.
Always great to cross pollinate to various clubs clinics.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question, how much does a clinic have to be to be considered good and not a money grab. Call me old fashion, $40/$50 for an 1 1/2 hr. but no more than $60. but it is not always about price.
To me, a great clinic has 8/10 kids per position or station and is less than $80. If more than 10 kids per position/station or over $80 its crazy.
Always great to cross pollinate to various clubs clinics.
To me, a great clinic has 8/10 kids per position or station and is less than $80. If more than 10 kids per position/station or over $80 its crazy.
Always great to cross pollinate to various clubs clinics.
It's two different things. A money grab imho is something that is a waste of time and has no value. This clinic sounds good and may be a bit overpriced in some views. There is a difference.
Wow that is crazy. $75 for a 1 1/2 hr clinic. In case anyone in interested in a bridge, I have one available. People it's not the cost of a clinic that determines how much the kid is learning.
Really?....did you complain when the director raised the costs of team fees this year for no reason other than he could?
Like everything else, stop paying and they would do it for nada...as long as the checkbook is out and pen is ready, then don't blink next year when the same clinic is $100...
Like everything else, stop paying and they would do it for nada...as long as the checkbook is out and pen is ready, then don't blink next year when the same clinic is $100...
How about a summer schedule??????????
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about a summer schedule??????????
It'll cost you $2.95 and here's a link to it:
http//yousucker.com
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Herman come on down to lab Grandpa has something to teach you.
How to put your teeth in? The best price for Depends?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about a summer schedule??????????
It'll cost you $2.95 and here's a link to it:
http//yousucker.com
Our coach sent ours through but would it kill them to update the website. I mean they send a dozen emails out a week about extra $$$ training but they can't add the tourney schedule to the site. F Chaney!!!
Also, Chaney would ask for $295, not $2.95
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about a summer schedule??????????
It'll cost you $2.95 and here's a link to it:
http//yousucker.com
Our coach sent ours through but would it kill them to update the website. I mean they send a dozen emails out a week about extra $$$ training but they can't add the tourney schedule to the site. F Chaney!!!
Also, Chaney would ask for $295, not $2.95
Guess what?? Your kid is going to sit the bench at Chaminade or St Anthony's. It's not too late to get out while you can.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about a summer schedule??????????
It'll cost you $2.95 and here's a link to it:
http//yousucker.com
Our coach sent ours through but would it kill them to update the website. I mean they send a dozen emails out a week about extra $$$ training but they can't add the tourney schedule to the site. F Chaney!!!
Also, Chaney would ask for $295, not $2.95
Guess what?? Your kid is going to sit the bench at Chaminade or St Anthony's. It's not too late to get out while you can.
And think how much you can save on haircuts!
Are all the Catholics starting indoors now or just the Express related ones. Does Channy get a cut of the field time even if the school built it? #salary supplement
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are all the Catholics starting indoors now or just the Express related ones. Does Channy get a cut of the field time even if the school built it? #salary supplement
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are all the Catholics starting indoors now or just the Express related ones. Does Channy get a cut of the field time even if the school built it? #salary supplement
I think many publics are doing indoors as well. No? What is the issue here?
No problem whatsoever with his capitalistic business model whatsoever-we all have choices--about fifteen per age group on LI. It's his chauvinistic core and behavior that I abhor and will not let him off the hook for. Ever.
I continue to find it amazing that so many people are willing to waste their time on bashing Mike C and Express. Why do any of you care if you aren't putting your sons on an Express team. If everything was cheaper would that change your mind about Express?
It blows my mind that you then turn to Catholic school bashing- if you go to Chaminade or St Anthony's- the secret is out - if you aren't great you don't get to play. There will be division 1 commits that sit on the bench on both teams. The rest of the team all have the ability to transfer but low and behold most stay because the they love the school and feel like they are part of something bigger then themselves.
Express and Catholic school isn't for everyone and both might have their warts, but plenty of families have had great luck with Express and while I am sure they all wish it was cheaper, they are willing to pay it.
Certainly there are enough options for travel lacrosse available now that those of you not even involved with Express could move on with your life.
It blows my mind that you then turn to Catholic school bashing- if you go to Chaminade or St Anthony's- the secret is out - if you aren't great you don't get to play. There will be division 1 commits that sit on the bench on both teams. The rest of the team all have the ability to transfer but low and behold most stay because the they love the school and feel like they are part of something bigger then themselves.
Express and Catholic school isn't for everyone and both might have their warts, but plenty of families have had great luck with Express and while I am sure they all wish it was cheaper, they are willing to pay it.
Certainly there are enough options for travel lacrosse available now that those of you not even involved with Express could move on with your life.
The Greed of Channy:
Tuition $2800
Box $800
Winter $175
Training $80 (Per Hour)
Spring $750
Extra Tourney $175
Basically $5000 plus if you go on all the rides and that before tourney travel. So many better options out there but to each his own.
Tuition $2800
Box $800
Winter $175
Training $80 (Per Hour)
Spring $750
Extra Tourney $175
Basically $5000 plus if you go on all the rides and that before tourney travel. So many better options out there but to each his own.
I don't know what is true or false here but I don't see any problem with making money. Lacrosse is like anything else. When people stop paying the prices will be adjusted. It is that simple.
So go play PAL .
Curious as to how many people this Channy fellow is forcing to play lacrosse?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So go play PAL .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Greed of Channy:
Tuition $2800
Box $800
Winter $175
Training $80 (Per Hour)
Spring $750
Extra Tourney $175
Basically $5000 plus if you go on all the rides and that before tourney travel. So many better options out there but to each his own.
Tuition $2800
Box $800
Winter $175
Training $80 (Per Hour)
Spring $750
Extra Tourney $175
Basically $5000 plus if you go on all the rides and that before tourney travel. So many better options out there but to each his own.
I just added up my costs and it is 6k with summer camp. It is what it is for 12 month lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curious as to how many people this Channy fellow is forcing to play lacrosse?
me not know you mean...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curious as to how many people this Channy fellow is forcing to play lacrosse?
me not know you mean...
I mean everyone is complaining about the cost. Are you being forced to do this or is it voluntary? 6K for what four or five years? Do the math, put that money into a 529 and you'll have far more than any scholarship.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curious as to how many people this Channy fellow is forcing to play lacrosse?
me not know you mean...
I mean everyone is complaining about the cost. Are you being forced to do this or is it voluntary? 6K for what four or five years? Do the math, put that money into a 529 and you'll have far more than any scholarship.
Already have college saved for. I love watching my son get better. 6k. It is what it is. You should stick to PAL and invest the money.
I'm not complaining, I was asking for some clarification because of all the bellyaching. Must be the team parents, bunch of [lacrosse]holes, just like everyone is saying, oh well live and learn.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curious as to how many people this Channy fellow is forcing to play lacrosse?
me not know you mean...
I mean everyone is complaining about the cost. Are you being forced to do this or is it voluntary? 6K for what four or five years? Do the math, put that money into a 529 and you'll have far more than any scholarship.
How about you don't worry about how I spend my money. I'm not complaining. Set aside the excellent coaching my boy is getting, he is having a blast....does it sound expensive? maybe, but let me decide how much is too much for my son to be happy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curious as to how many people this Channy fellow is forcing to play lacrosse?
me not know you mean...
I mean everyone is complaining about the cost. Are you being forced to do this or is it voluntary? 6K for what four or five years? Do the math, put that money into a 529 and you'll have far more than any scholarship.
How about you don't worry about how I spend my money. I'm not complaining. Set aside the excellent coaching my boy is getting, he is having a blast....does it sound expensive? maybe, but let me decide how much is too much for my son to be happy
I could care less if you spend all your money on the sex reassignment surgery you have always wanted to get so you can transition into the woman you desire to be. Just stop complaining about it!
I agree people shouldn't care how others spend their money. The sad part is the kid who really wants to play travel lacrosse and the family that is happy with his coach and team on Express but can't afford all the additional charges this year that were new and unexpected. I know in years past it was cheaper up front and I was surprised how many more additional charges there were this year. So the families who don't have an unlimited bank account won't be able to play Express in the future. That is the sad part.
start a GOFUNDME account for lacrosse
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curious as to how many people this Channy fellow is forcing to play lacrosse?
me not know you mean...
I mean everyone is complaining about the cost. Are you being forced to do this or is it voluntary? 6K for what four or five years? Do the math, put that money into a 529 and you'll have far more than any scholarship.
How about you don't worry about how I spend my money. I'm not complaining. Set aside the excellent coaching my boy is getting, he is having a blast....does it sound expensive? maybe, but let me decide how much is too much for my son to be happy
I could care less if you spend all your money on the sex reassignment surgery you have always wanted to get so you can transition into the woman you desire to be. Just stop complaining about it!
I took an early withdrawal from my 401k for that....but thanks for the advice
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Greed of Channy:
Tuition $2800
Box $800
Winter $175
Training $80 (Per Hour)
Spring $750
Extra Tourney $175
Basically $5000 plus if you go on all the rides and that before tourney travel. So many better options out there but to each his own.
Tuition $2800
Box $800
Winter $175
Training $80 (Per Hour)
Spring $750
Extra Tourney $175
Basically $5000 plus if you go on all the rides and that before tourney travel. So many better options out there but to each his own.
Channy actually spent time with my kid and trained him to be an excellent lacrosse player. The key is for him to actually spend time with your son. If he is doing that it is worth it. Be honest with your self. Channy only focuses on the top 5 or 6 kids in the year he is coaching. The rest are just there to pay for his condo.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Greed of Channy:
Tuition $2800
Box $800
Winter $175
Training $80 (Per Hour)
Spring $750
Extra Tourney $175
Basically $5000 plus if you go on all the rides and that before tourney travel. So many better options out there but to each his own.
Tuition $2800
Box $800
Winter $175
Training $80 (Per Hour)
Spring $750
Extra Tourney $175
Basically $5000 plus if you go on all the rides and that before tourney travel. So many better options out there but to each his own.
Channy actually spent time with my kid and trained him to be an excellent lacrosse player. The key is for him to actually spend time with your son. If he is doing that it is worth it. Be honest with your self. Channy only focuses on the top 5 or 6 kids in the year he is coaching. The rest are just there to pay for his condo.
All that money for a hack of a JV High School coach?
NO Thanks!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Greed of Channy:
Tuition $2800
Box $800
Winter $175
Training $80 (Per Hour)
Spring $750
Extra Tourney $175
Basically $5000 plus if you go on all the rides and that before tourney travel. So many better options out there but to each his own.
Tuition $2800
Box $800
Winter $175
Training $80 (Per Hour)
Spring $750
Extra Tourney $175
Basically $5000 plus if you go on all the rides and that before tourney travel. So many better options out there but to each his own.
Channy actually spent time with my kid and trained him to be an excellent lacrosse player. The key is for him to actually spend time with your son. If he is doing that it is worth it. Be honest with your self. Channy only focuses on the top 5 or 6 kids in the year he is coaching. The rest are just there to pay for his condo.
All that money for a hack of a JV High School coach?
NO Thanks!!!
Exactly...Pass
Funny thing....Hanging out with some Outlaws parents out in Nassau they seem to thing they are the team to beat! How funny is that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny thing....Hanging out with some Outlaws parents out in Nassau they seem to thing they are the team to beat! How funny is that?
Not as funny as Express thinking they're the team to beat!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny thing....Hanging out with some Outlaws parents out in Nassau they seem to thing they are the team to beat! How funny is that?
Outlaws is the team to beat? Or Express? Also probably depends o what year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny thing....Hanging out with some Outlaws parents out in Nassau they seem to thing they are the team to beat! How funny is that?
Outlaws is the team to beat? Or Express? Also probably depends o what year.
2025 Outlaws are Horrible.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny thing....Hanging out with some Outlaws parents out in Nassau they seem to thing they are the team to beat! How funny is that?
Outlaws is the team to beat? Or Express? Also probably depends o what year.
What age?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny thing....Hanging out with some Outlaws parents out in Nassau they seem to thing they are the team to beat! How funny is that?
Sure....stop trying to stir the pot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny thing....Hanging out with some Outlaws parents out in Nassau they seem to thing they are the team to beat! How funny is that?
Outlaws is the team to beat? Or Express? Also probably depends o what year.
2025 Outlaws are Horrible.
That's so nice to say about 4 th grade kids
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny thing....Hanging out with some Outlaws parents out in Nassau they seem to thing they are the team to beat! How funny is that?
Outlaws is the team to beat? Or Express? Also probably depends o what year.
2025 Outlaws are Horrible.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny thing....Hanging out with some Outlaws parents out in Nassau they seem to thing they are the team to beat! How funny is that?
Outlaws is the team to beat? Or Express? Also probably depends o what year.
2025 Outlaws are Horrible.
That's so nice to say about 4 th grade kids
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny thing....Hanging out with some Outlaws parents out in Nassau they seem to thing they are the team to beat! How funny is that?
Outlaws is the team to beat? Or Express? Also probably depends o what year.
2025 Outlaws are Horrible.
I don't want to hear you fool, This site is riddled with people trashing kids. I don't want to hear that the 2025 Outlaws are a team to beat because they SUCK.
Absolutely! The people like this brainless slob who make comments about how a bunch of 4th graders (8 & 9 yr old boys) suck is problematic across youth lacrosse and not exclusive to Express. This loser along with so many other losers posting on this site should never have been allowed to procreate! ....and you all know who you are!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny thing....Hanging out with some Outlaws parents out in Nassau they seem to thing they are the team to beat! How funny is that?
Outlaws is the team to beat? Or Express? Also probably depends o what year.
2025 Outlaws are Horrible.
That's so nice to say about 4 th grade kids
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny thing....Hanging out with some Outlaws parents out in Nassau they seem to thing they are the team to beat! How funny is that?
Outlaws is the team to beat? Or Express? Also probably depends o what year.
2025 Outlaws are Horrible.
I don't want to hear you fool, This site is riddled with people trashing kids. I don't want to hear that the 2025 Outlaws are a team to beat because they SUCK.
I think it was 2022 not 100%
You think it was 2022? You are a moron. You were not hanging out with anybody, you loser. If the group you were hanging out with weren't imaginary you would know how old there kids are and what teams they played on. Stop trying to stir the pot. I was just hanging out with parents from Express, Outlaws, Igloo, Hitmen, Madlax, 9D1, Ducks, Bluefish , and countless others and they said you are a MORON.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You think it was 2022? You are a moron. You were not hanging out with anybody, you loser. If the group you were hanging out with weren't imaginary you would know how old there kids are and what teams they played on. Stop trying to stir the pot. I was just hanging out with parents from Express, Outlaws, Igloo, Hitmen, Madlax, 9D1, Ducks, Bluefish , and countless others and they said you are a MORON.
Why would you call this person a moron? If anything that makes you an ignorant person with no self esteem. He clearly said he was "hanging out" with Outlaw parents which could have meant a social situation. We have all been in situations where we don't memorize kids ages. You definitely live up to your [lacrosse] Express parent reputation!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You think it was 2022? You are a moron. You were not hanging out with anybody, you loser. If the group you were hanging out with weren't imaginary you would know how old there kids are and what teams they played on. Stop trying to stir the pot. I was just hanging out with parents from Express, Outlaws, Igloo, Hitmen, Madlax, 9D1, Ducks, Bluefish , and countless others and they said you are a MORON.
Why would you call this person a moron? If anything that makes you an ignorant person with no self esteem. He clearly said he was "hanging out" with Outlaw parents which could have meant a social situation. We have all been in situations where we don't memorize kids ages. You definitely live up to your [lacrosse] Express parent reputation!
News flash: the people posting the "pot stirring" comments are actually 11 and 12 year olds. The fact that you get baited so easily and get your knickers in such a twist is hilarious. Calm down and get a clue.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You think it was 2022? You are a moron. You were not hanging out with anybody, you loser. If the group you were hanging out with weren't imaginary you would know how old there kids are and what teams they played on. Stop trying to stir the pot. I was just hanging out with parents from Express, Outlaws, Igloo, Hitmen, Madlax, 9D1, Ducks, Bluefish , and countless others and they said you are a MORON.
Why would you call this person a moron? If anything that makes you an ignorant person with no self esteem. He clearly said he was "hanging out" with Outlaw parents which could have meant a social situation. We have all been in situations where we don't memorize kids ages. You definitely live up to your [lacrosse] Express parent reputation!
News flash: the people posting the "pot stirring" comments are actually 11 and 12 year olds. The fact that you get baited so easily and get your knickers in such a twist is hilarious. Calm down and get a clue.
11 and 12 year olds. Who needs to get a clue?
Friday Everyone woke up to the fresh smell of credit cards being charged in the middle of the night! No helmets, gloves or bags still, maybe they'll show up now! LOL! Joke
That's funny because all the teams Channy coaches have there gear all ready
Ur all fools to buy into this organizations bs, total money grab with no return on ur investment, but I'm sure u all knew that already
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Friday Everyone woke up to the fresh smell of credit cards being charged in the middle of the night! No helmets, gloves or bags still, maybe they'll show up now! LOL! Joke
Worst run organization by a country mile. Sure they get some kids to catholic school/college but so does plenty of other programs. Hard work will always prevail over greed.
'22. look for Igloo to beat the Express army of 35 with their new poisonous 100-9 blood and see those fools look to jump ship again led by mini me Dr. Evil...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
'22. look for Igloo to beat the Express army of 35 with their new poisonous 100-9 blood and see those fools look to jump ship again led by mini me Dr. Evil...
What?????
Originally Posted by Anonymous
'22. look for Igloo to beat the Express army of 35 with their new poisonous 100-9 blood and see those fools look to jump ship again led by mini me Dr. Evil...
What language are you speaking.
You really can't interpret that???
Tryouts for 2017 is up, get your wallets out, late August this year
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tryouts for 2017 is up, get your wallets out, late August this year
Those are last years make up dates. They haven't updated their website since last year
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
'22. look for Igloo to beat the Express army of 35 with their new poisonous 100-9 blood and see those fools look to jump ship again led by mini me Dr. Evil...
What language are you speaking.
Is there a schedule for this Sunday's Playday tourney?
Cancelled
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cancelled
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cancelled
Are all years cancelled?
PAL conflicts for teams.
didn't they know that when they scheduled it? Sunday is PAL. Way to screw the parents/kids again
Originally Posted by Anonymous
didn't they know that when they scheduled it? Sunday is PAL. Way to screw the parents/kids again
Express does not care about PAL
Yea Mike chanichuck is a horse tooth jackass all about the $ and puts the screws to the kids he lost the love of the game when it became a bussiness
Express Doesn't Care about anything except your $$$$$$ get your check in on time
Dont get it, If it is Cancelled why all the bitching?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
didn't they know that when they scheduled it? Sunday is PAL. Way to screw the parents/kids again
believe it or not kids don't play on express because of channy, they play on express because of the other coaches and how organized it is, or used to be!
So true. We play for Express because the players are strong, the coaching is excellent, the tournaments are top notch and the focus on recruiting matched what our son wanted. He chose to leave his prior program and is glad - Channy was never a factor either way.
Then why do all his teams have the biggest rosters? Must be something right. It still shocks me that parents put their kids on a team with more than 6 attack and 9 middies.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
didn't they know that when they scheduled it? Sunday is PAL. Way to screw the parents/kids again
Chanenchuk was at the Ward Melville vs Smithtown East game to watch his former players. He cares about the players and guess what? He wasn't paid to go. Great experience with Express. Playing for Express, or any club team, can be very costly, but I believe the return on the investment was worth it for my son.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Then why do all his teams have the biggest rosters? Must be something right. It still shocks me that parents put their kids on a team with more than 6 attack and 9 middies.
A: Ummmm... parents caught up in chasing an elusive idea that by being on THAT team, their boys will ALL somehow become D I commits and get scholarships? And the organizations parallel recognition that they can milk a half dozen more fees for each grade's teams? It's really not too hard to figure this out if you follow youth lacrosse, even casually.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Then why do all his teams have the biggest rosters? Must be something right. It still shocks me that parents put their kids on a team with more than 6 attack and 9 middies.
A: Ummmm... parents caught up in chasing an elusive idea that by being on THAT team, their boys will ALL somehow become D I commits and get scholarships? And the organizations parallel recognition that they can milk a half dozen more fees for each grade's teams? It's really not too hard to figure this out if you follow youth lacrosse, even casually.
Most parents do not understand the recruiting process. Your son needs to be seen actually playing on the field. Mine was recruited fall of sophomore year. He was on a solid travel team, not top two. Received far more interest from Coaches than the number 5,6,7 or 8th attack on those top teams. He was the "guy" the Coaches saw against good competition. It also allowed him to really gain confidence. Went on to be an All-star at Top Showcases. Never would have even been given the invite if on top two teams on LI. He would have multiple goal games in front of Coaches, received interest up and down the spectrum in D1. Had many options and chose a school that was best fit for him. Moral of the story is, better to be a starter on a slightly lesser Travel Team, than be buried on the bench with a top squad. If you pay attention, you'll notice only the top 10 kids get the plum offers. Same with the lesser team... Be realistic, if he's not good enough, or politically connected enough to crack the starting line up for one of the top two teams, he's probably not going to be seen by Duke or UNC. Starting and performing on the lesser team will get you looks and interest and calls from some pretty nice schools. But hey, if having your son on the top team is what it's all about, then stay there.
College showcases is where it's at, makes no difference at this age if ur kids a stud player on a top club team or pal..As previous post stated if ur dropping thousands of dollars a yr for ur kid to be 3rd string player ur wasting ur time and money, ur kids only gonna get better with more playing time.....
Practices must be awesome. You can have two full squads with that number of kids! Maybe they can have Tournaments against themselves! And the Championships are always a tie so everyone gets a shirt!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Then why do all his teams have the biggest rosters? Must be something right. It still shocks me that parents put their kids on a team with more than 6 attack and 9 middies.
A: Ummmm... parents caught up in chasing an elusive idea that by being on THAT team, their boys will ALL somehow become D I commits and get scholarships? And the organizations parallel recognition that they can milk a half dozen more fees for each grade's teams? It's really not too hard to figure this out if you follow youth lacrosse, even casually.
Most parents do not understand the recruiting process. Your son needs to be seen actually playing on the field. Mine was recruited fall of sophomore year. He was on a solid travel team, not top two. Received far more interest from Coaches than the number 5,6,7 or 8th attack on those top teams. He was the "guy" the Coaches saw against good competition. It also allowed him to really gain confidence. Went on to be an All-star at Top Showcases. Never would have even been given the invite if on top two teams on LI. He would have multiple goal games in front of Coaches, received interest up and down the spectrum in D1. Had many options and chose a school that was best fit for him. Moral of the story is, better to be a starter on a slightly lesser Travel Team, than be buried on the bench with a top squad. If you pay attention, you'll notice only the top 10 kids get the plum offers. Same with the lesser team... Be realistic, if he's not good enough, or politically connected enough to crack the starting line up for one of the top two teams, he's probably not going to be seen by Duke or UNC. Starting and performing on the lesser team will get you looks and interest and calls from some pretty nice schools. But hey, if having your son on the top team is what it's all about, then stay there.
Good post.
And the team showcases are well attended events and I my son got the most exposure that way this past fall. More than the individual ones. Playing time is sooooooooo important for so many reasons, but the most important one is enjoyment of the sport and fun.
2022's scrimmaged yesterday, anyone know how that boy is with his wrist/Arm?
Channy was also at Cham CSH JV game to watch about 12 of his players. I guess he does care.
Lotsa a parity on Strong Island. Just look at winners list from Blatant. Nice showing by the town teams.
RVC
Icebox
Express
RVC
TAZ
Outlaws Gold
Icebox
Express
Express
Smithtown
Icebox
Express
Icebox
Hitmen
RVC
Icebox
Express
RVC
TAZ
Outlaws Gold
Icebox
Express
Express
Smithtown
Icebox
Express
Icebox
Hitmen
Which team is the B team for Express at this age?
Sorry, at 2020 which team is the B team for Express at this age? Thanks
It looks on the website as though teams are listed in order:
Wieczorek (top team)
Moran/Wieczorek
Leghart
Leggy (bottom team?)
If you look at the tournaments they are attending, I think this is the order from top to bottom. Not positive though.
Wieczorek (top team)
Moran/Wieczorek
Leghart
Leggy (bottom team?)
If you look at the tournaments they are attending, I think this is the order from top to bottom. Not positive though.
Thank you.
My son is looking to tryout for 2020 but we have heard that it's very hard to get on if your not from St.Anthony's, any truth to this?
No truth. If he is good enough he'll make the team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is looking to tryout for 2020 but we have heard that it's very hard to get on if your not from St.Anthony's, any truth to this?
nope
$$$$$$$$. he will make it
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Then why do all his teams have the biggest rosters? Must be something right. It still shocks me that parents put their kids on a team with more than 6 attack and 9 middies.
A: Ummmm... parents caught up in chasing an elusive idea that by being on THAT team, their boys will ALL somehow become D I commits and get scholarships? And the organizations parallel recognition that they can milk a half dozen more fees for each grade's teams? It's really not too hard to figure this out if you follow youth lacrosse, even casually.
Most parents do not understand the recruiting process. Your son needs to be seen actually playing on the field. Mine was recruited fall of sophomore year. He was on a solid travel team, not top two. Received far more interest from Coaches than the number 5,6,7 or 8th attack on those top teams. He was the "guy" the Coaches saw against good competition. It also allowed him to really gain confidence. Went on to be an All-star at Top Showcases. Never would have even been given the invite if on top two teams on LI. He would have multiple goal games in front of Coaches, received interest up and down the spectrum in D1. Had many options and chose a school that was best fit for him. Moral of the story is, better to be a starter on a slightly lesser Travel Team, than be buried on the bench with a top squad. If you pay attention, you'll notice only the top 10 kids get the plum offers. Same with the lesser team... Be realistic, if he's not good enough, or politically connected enough to crack the starting line up for one of the top two teams, he's probably not going to be seen by Duke or UNC. Starting and performing on the lesser team will get you looks and interest and calls from some pretty nice schools. But hey, if having your son on the top team is what it's all about, then stay there.
Which D3 school is your son going to?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks on the website as though teams are listed in order:
Wieczorek (top team)
Moran/Wieczorek
Leghart
Leggy (bottom team?)
If you look at the tournaments they are attending, I think this is the order from top to bottom. Not positive though.
Wieczorek (top team)
Moran/Wieczorek
Leghart
Leggy (bottom team?)
If you look at the tournaments they are attending, I think this is the order from top to bottom. Not positive though.
Wieczorek - A
Leghart - B
Leggy - C
Moran/Wieczorek - Money grab BS team
you have no clue at all what you are saying.
Come to a practice and you will see there no BS .
they are a first year team with a lot of talent being coached by the best in the game.
Come to a practice and you will see there no BS .
they are a first year team with a lot of talent being coached by the best in the game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
you have no clue at all what you are saying.
Come to a practice and you will see there no BS .
they are a first year team with a lot of talent being coached by the best in the game.
Come to a practice and you will see there no BS .
they are a first year team with a lot of talent being coached by the best in the game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks on the website as though teams are listed in order:
Wieczorek (top team)
Moran/Wieczorek
Leghart
Leggy (bottom team?)
If you look at the tournaments they are attending, I think this is the order from top to bottom. Not positive though.
Wieczorek (top team)
Moran/Wieczorek
Leghart
Leggy (bottom team?)
If you look at the tournaments they are attending, I think this is the order from top to bottom. Not positive though.
Wieczorek - A
Leghart - B
Leggy - C
Moran/Wieczorek - Money grab BS team
You can put both Leghart and Leggy in the same category as Moran/Wiecorek.
And Wiecorek is now an A- team.
The LI Express North 2019 team should be proud! Won the LI Lax Fest JV division, beating RVC 2020/21 and West Islip 2020/21. The 4th playoff team was Sachem North 2020/21. You are rising 11th graders...next time play in the right division.
Nice weekend for the Express ships... 2025, 2024, 2023, 2022, 2019.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nice weekend for the Express ships... 2025, 2024, 2023, 2022, 2019.
Did they cheat at every age group, or just a few of them?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nice weekend for the Express ships... 2025, 2024, 2023, 2022, 2019.
Did they cheat at every age group, or just a few of them?
How would you ever know? Lax should go to age-based, and players should have USA-issued photo ID that are checked like in football and soccer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nice weekend for the Express ships... 2025, 2024, 2023, 2022, 2019.
Did they cheat at every age group, or just a few of them?
If they choose to add players outside of tryouts to improve their chances of winning, that is not cheating. I don't defend it because I think any adds disrupt playing time and I understand 100% how that upsets not only the players and parents, but opponents. But that is not cheating. You should only add unless it's needed to fill out a roster for kids who left, but that's my opinion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Nice weekend for the Express ships... 2025, 2024, 2023, 2022, 2019.
Did they cheat at every age group, or just a few of them?
If they choose to add players outside of tryouts to improve their chances of winning, that is not cheating. I don't defend it because I think any adds disrupt playing time and I understand 100% how that upsets not only the players and parents, but opponents. But that is not cheating. You should only add unless it's needed to fill out a roster for kids who left, but that's my opinion. [/quote
However, if they choose to add players that are not of the correct age, that is, in fact, cheating.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Nice weekend for the Express ships... 2025, 2024, 2023, 2022, 2019.
Did they cheat at every age group, or just a few of them?
If they choose to add players outside of tryouts to improve their chances of winning, that is not cheating. I don't defend it because I think any adds disrupt playing time and I understand 100% how that upsets not only the players and parents, but opponents. But that is not cheating. You should only add unless it's needed to fill out a roster for kids who left, but that's my opinion. [
/quote
However, if they choose to add players that are not of the correct age, that is, in fact, cheating.
I agree, but it's mostly innuendo I think.
Or add a player that plays on the 2022 team. Kid plays on 2023 first then goes to the 2022 team and plays there. 2022 is his correct age group I think. I get it the owner wants to win tournaments so more parents think there a great organization. However when they realize that he does these things all the time and the kids that practice week in and week out lose time or don't play at all its wrong on all levels. But the owner will get more kids at the tryouts which puts more money in his pocket and the cycle continues. I think the 2022 team has about 30-35 players and you guys continue to pay its nuts. Anyway good luck Express no reason for the kid to play on the 2023 team your team is actually good and you don't need him.
Why am I getting emails from 91 bragging that they had all these teams winning Laxfest, and that's why we should try out there. Did they not get the memo that Laxfest is an irrelevant tournament and all the good teams were playing in competitive tournaments elsewhere? What happened to Express, they don't have any top teams anymore.
Is there any truth to 2024 express adding 2 TAZ kids this weekend?
Looking for the truth on this site.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why am I getting emails from 91 bragging that they had all these teams winning Laxfest, and that's why we should try out there. Did they not get the memo that Laxfest is an irrelevant tournament and all the good teams were playing in competitive tournaments elsewhere? What happened to Express, they don't have any top teams anymore.
It wasn't 91 likely, it was Express. And yes they have top teams and teams that are among the top 3 on Long Island.
Truth is they been doing that for 10 years. and people keep going back.
Truth is they been doing that for 10 years. and people keep going back.
And they were very competitive against established teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there any truth to 2024 express adding 2 TAZ kids this weekend?
No Truth
2 TAZ kids only showed to a practice last week.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And they were very competitive against established teams
Meaning Weiczoreck/Moran.
who was that crazy orange parent on Sunday calling them the terps?
I'm pretty sure Express coaches are not reading this site. Just contact them directly for information- this site is opinions your not always going to get the truth
Tristar Schedule?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there any truth to 2024 express adding 2 TAZ kids this weekend?
No Truth
Lots of guests and additions for Express at the Fiesta!
Just remember tryouts are just around the corner and you get to pay $105 for other (bigger, better or more athletic) kids to show up and take you boys hard earned playing time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Or add a player that plays on the 2022 team. Kid plays on 2023 first then goes to the 2022 team and plays there. 2022 is his correct age group I think. I get it the owner wants to win tournaments so more parents think there a great organization. However when they realize that he does these things all the time and the kids that practice week in and week out lose time or don't play at all its wrong on all levels. But the owner will get more kids at the tryouts which puts more money in his pocket and the cycle continues. I think the 2022 team has about 30-35 players and you guys continue to pay its nuts. Anyway good luck Express no reason for the kid to play on the 2023 team your team is actually good and you don't need him.
WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO IT????? WHY DON'T OTHER TEAMS BAND TOGETHER AND PUT A STOP TO IT!!! Better regulations should be put in place. Would also put a stop to hold backs.
Age restrictions and monitoring will never happen so long as the powers that be (club lax organizations) benefit (through $, wins and recruited players) from using holdbacks. These guys run the tourneys, have the best teams, fill the showcases, get the recruiting media coverage, coach other teams on other levels,etc. They don't want a level playing field. The NLF is a direct reflection of all that. The day the kids on those teams ever have to disclose their birthdates and play against kids their own age is not happening soon. 90+1, Express, Crabs and Laxachuettes are the reason it will never happen
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Or add a player that plays on the 2022 team. Kid plays on 2023 first then goes to the 2022 team and plays there. 2022 is his correct age group I think. I get it the owner wants to win tournaments so more parents think there a great organization. However when they realize that he does these things all the time and the kids that practice week in and week out lose time or don't play at all its wrong on all levels. But the owner will get more kids at the tryouts which puts more money in his pocket and the cycle continues. I think the 2022 team has about 30-35 players and you guys continue to pay its nuts. Anyway good luck Express no reason for the kid to play on the 2023 team your team is actually good and you don't need him.
WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO IT????? WHY DON'T OTHER TEAMS BAND TOGETHER AND PUT A STOP TO IT!!! Better regulations should be put in place. Would also put a stop to hold backs.
Channy is an A$$ Clown...plain and simple
Everyone should look at Boys 2022 and read the ridiculous comment about holdbacks. It's a real gem. It's great when parents think it's ok to let your child not do well in school because being a competitive athlete is more important.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Or add a player that plays on the 2022 team. Kid plays on 2023 first then goes to the 2022 team and plays there. 2022 is his correct age group I think. I get it the owner wants to win tournaments so more parents think there a great organization. However when they realize that he does these things all the time and the kids that practice week in and week out lose time or don't play at all its wrong on all levels. But the owner will get more kids at the tryouts which puts more money in his pocket and the cycle continues. I think the 2022 team has about 30-35 players and you guys continue to pay its nuts. Anyway good luck Express no reason for the kid to play on the 2023 team your team is actually good and you don't need him.
WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO IT????? WHY DON'T OTHER TEAMS BAND TOGETHER AND PUT A STOP TO IT!!! Better regulations should be put in place. Would also put a stop to hold backs.
The other clubs don't care. The bigger questions is why do parents put up with it. Pay to be on the team, Practice all year and only get in when there is a blow out or a game that doesn't matter. I counted 30 2022 kids this weekend's championship of which I only think 15 Played and one kid never coming off the field.
Go play rec ball if you want equal playing time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go play rec ball if you want equal playing time.
Its never even the playing time on these A teams. It's now become just win and kids don't see the field and the parents justify it by saying how good the practice and training is. It can't be that good if your kid isn't on the field, correct? So your son is getting to show off during PAL season where games don't count.
And the best part is this kid gets a free ride on both teams... the kids that don't play pay his way. Rediculous...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And the best part is this kid gets a free ride on both teams... the kids that don't play pay his way. Rediculous...
Life is not fair..Not everyone gets a trophy. Pal is where everyone plays equal time.. Parents pay for travel lacrosse. The best kids are going to play . Thats how the top organizations do it. If you are the naive parent that insits little johnny be on the best team even though he is number 6 on the depth chart well that is on you. Ever consider putting him on the "B" team where maybe he would be number 1,2 or 3 on the depth chart and play alot. God forbid you have to explain to your friends little J. Is on the B team not the A. What would you do with yourself. Wake up people put your kid on a team where he will play. Stop putting them on teams where you know they can't see the field. And yes I think my son can play on an A team but you know what I don't want to see him on the bench all weekend so he is on the B team and plays. Has just as much fun. Money well spent
It's very simple, if you don't like it don't write the check to a travel club. I'm sure someone else will take your son's spot...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's very simple, if you don't like it don't write the check to a travel club. I'm sure someone else will take your son's spot...
You guys are awesome - you aren't reading any of these posts.
Do you really think any of the posters here are saying "Waaaah! It's not fair that Channy has six lefty attackmen on his 38 person "A" team and my "wanna be A but really more like A-/B+" team is going to lose to them 9-out-of-10 times." They're really saying "Jeez - that training better be F'ing awesome to pay over $3000 for Little Billy to be able to say he's on the "A" team and never see the field in a meaningful game."
And again, before you knuckle draggers start talking about participation trophies and PAL and equal playing time, I ask you - is Little Billy having fun never playing in a game - because let's be honest, in this world of Instagram and constant SnapChat, do you think any middle school kid who plays for the worst travel team in the country doesn't know that Little Billy doesn't see the field more than Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder?
What happens when they hand out the championship tee shirts? How does Channy decide which 25 kids get the tee shirt because you know that the NLF tournaments and the Blatant tournaments sure as [lacrosse] won't give him 38 tee shirts . . .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's very simple, if you don't like it don't write the check to a travel club. I'm sure someone else will take your son's spot...
You guys are awesome - you aren't reading any of these posts.
Do you really think any of the posters here are saying "Waaaah! It's not fair that Channy has six lefty attackmen on his 38 person "A" team and my "wanna be A but really more like A-/B+" team is going to lose to them 9-out-of-10 times." They're really saying "Jeez - that training better be F'ing awesome to pay over $3000 for Little Billy to be able to say he's on the "A" team and never see the field in a meaningful game."
And again, before you knuckle draggers start talking about participation trophies and PAL and equal playing time, I ask you - is Little Billy having fun never playing in a game - because let's be honest, in this world of Instagram and constant SnapChat, do you think any middle school kid who plays for the worst travel team in the country doesn't know that Little Billy doesn't see the field more than Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder?
What happens when they hand out the championship tee shirts? How does Channy decide which 25 kids get the tee shirt because you know that the NLF tournaments and the Blatant tournaments sure as [lacrosse] won't give him 38 tee shirts . . .
So true. Why did they just make two teams and coach them both? They may as well had another good team.
I remember when Express used to be a great club. Wow they have fallen on hard times.
what i am really loving about the club teams is the not only do we have the Club we try to own the tournaments too, send our teams to our own tournaments and get a few outside teams to play and away we go... next they will own the clothing companies too that outfit all the kids, oh wait .. that is already starting too. Capitalism at its best. Tri-Star owned by express, mylacrossetournaments owned by 9D1, blatant Outlaws and so on and so forth.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And the best part is this kid gets a free ride on both teams... the kids that don't play pay his way. Rediculous...
Life is not fair..Not everyone gets a trophy. Pal is where everyone plays equal time.. Parents pay for travel lacrosse. The best kids are going to play . Thats how the top organizations do it. If you are the naive parent that insits little johnny be on the best team even though he is number 6 on the depth chart well that is on you. Ever consider putting him on the "B" team where maybe he would be number 1,2 or 3 on the depth chart and play alot. God forbid you have to explain to your friends little J. Is on the B team not the A. What would you do with yourself. Wake up people put your kid on a team where he will play. Stop putting them on teams where you know they can't see the field. And yes I think my son can play on an A team but you know what I don't want to see him on the bench all weekend so he is on the B team and plays. Has just as much fun. Money well spent
Part of the problem is the culture of travel lax where any team that is not one of the best 8 or so teams from VA to Maine is labeled a B team. In no other youth sport is this the case. "B" is used in all other sports to label teams that are filled with new players or lower end athletes. Many of the B teams in lax are filled with experienced players who are excellent athletes. They are just not the best of the best. AAA, AA, A, B should be used - both in terms of labeling teams and labeling divisions. There really are four levels of play - or should be if club owners knew how to grow their programs and profits to include more players/paying customers. There should be a division for a beginner player who wants to extend his lax season beyond the 9 weeks or so available for Town lax in the Spring.
LI Express, for example, should be able to have a team for each level at each grade, keeping the roster sizes at 21(or less) plus goalies. Will need a few more coaches, but will generate more paying customers and more profit.
Is this largely semantics to make kids and mommies feel better? Absolutely. But travel lax is a business, and any time you can make your paying customers feel better without compromising the product, you should do it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's very simple, if you don't like it don't write the check to a travel club. I'm sure someone else will take your son's spot...
You guys are awesome - you aren't reading any of these posts.
Do you really think any of the posters here are saying "Waaaah! It's not fair that Channy has six lefty attackmen on his 38 person "A" team and my "wanna be A but really more like A-/B+" team is going to lose to them 9-out-of-10 times." They're really saying "Jeez - that training better be F'ing awesome to pay over $3000 for Little Billy to be able to say he's on the "A" team and never see the field in a meaningful game."
And again, before you knuckle draggers start talking about participation trophies and PAL and equal playing time, I ask you - is Little Billy having fun never playing in a game - because let's be honest, in this world of Instagram and constant SnapChat, do you think any middle school kid who plays for the worst travel team in the country doesn't know that Little Billy doesn't see the field more than Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder?
What happens when they hand out the championship tee shirts? How does Channy decide which 25 kids get the tee shirt because you know that the NLF tournaments and the Blatant tournaments sure as [lacrosse] won't give him 38 tee shirts . . .
So true. Why did they just make two teams and coach them both? They may as well had another good team.
The A team parents that have a kid on the bench are freaking losers. All the parents that have kids that play are thinking it too. Why do that to your kid?
Chaney always told us our kid was a B player not good enough for A team. He is going D1 free ride. The man is an A hole. You don't need express too go D1.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaney always told us our kid was a B player not good enough for A team. He is going D1 free ride. The man is an A hole. You don't need express too go D1.
Congrats!!! And yes he is. At the rate The almighty Express is going no one is going to need of want them
Wow your son must be a great player if he's going D1 on a full ride, what's his name? It's always easy to say things anonymously. Funny how people love to bash express and other travel programs but come August they will trot their kids down to the tryouts for multiple teams to see if he can make one of the clubs.
free ride? only at service academies.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow your son must be a great player if he's going D1 on a full ride, what's his name? It's always easy to say things anonymously. Funny how people love to bash express and other travel programs but come August they will trot their kids down to the tryouts for multiple teams to see if he can make one of the clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaney always told us our kid was a B player not good enough for A team. He is going D1 free ride. The man is an A hole. You don't need express too go D1.
He is a good judge of talent and does form a quick opinion on a kids abilities and attitude and in my opinion he rarely changes that. However, late bloomers will fall through the cracks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaney always told us our kid was a B player not good enough for A team. He is going D1 free ride. The man is an A hole. You don't need express too go D1.
Congrats!!! And yes he is. At the rate The almighty Express is going no one is going to need of want them
You make no sense. You're just mad b/c your kid is on the A team and sits on the bench. Don't get mad at Channy. The only fool is you for paying that kind of money for practices. Take your kid somewhere else. Especially if he is young.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaney always told us our kid was a B player not good enough for A team. He is going D1 free ride. The man is an A hole. You don't need express too go D1.
No one gets a full ride for lacrosse! What coach is allocating 1 of 12.6 scholarships (assuming they are all fully funded!) to one SA??!
That's exactly right. He has no time for the late bloomers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaney always told us our kid was a B player not good enough for A team. He is going D1 free ride. The man is an A hole. You don't need express too go D1.
No such thing as a full ride for lacrosse unless playing for USA service academies. Academic full rides exist but certainly not for lacrosse talents.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
free ride? only at service academies.
but not a one is an athletic scholarship . . .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chaney always told us our kid was a B player not good enough for A team. He is going D1 free ride. The man is an A hole. You don't need express too go D1.
No such thing as a full ride for lacrosse unless playing for USA service academies. Academic full rides exist but certainly not for lacrosse talents.
Unless he went to Hofstra
Why did Express fall so quickly? People hate the owner? Rise of 88+3?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why did Express fall so quickly? People hate the owner? Rise of 88+3?
There are more clubs competing with them.
They are also greedy and eat their own. Express is happy to have four diluted teams in a grade when they could have two very strong teams.......but of course that would equate to less revenue, Also, they do crazy things like having 35 kids on an A team even though many dont play. They also suddenly create new teams (i,e, Moran/Wieczorek in 2020) and screw over loyal, playing customers. And lastly, unless you are on the A team in your grade the organization could care less about you. No top showcase recommendations for you! They won't even get your kid into an NLF event which they are part of. Nor will they send any team other than their A team to a top tournament. My observaton is that if you are an A team starter for Express that is a very valuable spot and you will be treated quite well. Bench wamer A players and B or C team players are not even on their radar.
? Express stock is going through the roof! The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire! Tryout registrations are at an all time high! 88+3 players will be looking to jump ship and hop on the Express train, if not, Legacy and Outlaws. Igloo will lose some players due to WSYL team fiasco.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why did Express fall so quickly? People hate the owner? Rise of 88+3?
Every A team they have competes on the highest level. You can only say that about one other LI Club.
It's pretty amazing but since my kid has been playing club ball all i have heard is Express is losing its luster. It's going downhill. Yet year after year it reloads with players, teams, and coaches. It even has expanded to other states. Let's face it they have been the big dog for a long time. Yes other clubs have entered the fray and actually made an impact in the overall grand scheme but Express still stands and is still doing just fine. There will always be up years and down years for age groups in any program/business but as long as they are providing a service that people are willing to pay for they will be in business. There will always be those who are not happy and they will come on here and bash the program it's director and anything associated with Express. It's just like any business you can have thousands of happy customers but it's the one that is not happy for whatever the reason that complains and stirs the pot often posting multiple times with different attacks. I guarantee if only registered users could post the complaints coming from the same people would stop and as a result the posts on here complaing would be more than cut in half. am
Express success is based on one thing. " There is a sucker born every day"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express success is based on one thing. " There is a sucker born every day"
Sorry your son was unable to make the cut. All the best!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
? Express stock is going through the roof! The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire! Tryout registrations are at an all time high! 88+3 players will be looking to jump ship and hop on the Express train, if not, Legacy and Outlaws. Igloo will lose some players due to WSYL team fiasco.
Quite the opposite, providing an team to compete in the WSYL will be a draw for them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express success is based on one thing. " There is a sucker born every day"
Got that right! They even try to convince themselves of how great they are. Hmmmm let's see. 2023 Haugen lost to Lax Black in championship game Sunday, but there's a picture of the team proudly wearing t-shirt and claiming to be 2023 Champions on their website. WHAT????????
They won Lax Fest. Probably would have won Lax Clash if they didn't play against a team of men
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express success is based on one thing. " There is a sucker born every day"
Got that right! They even try to convince themselves of how great they are. Hmmmm let's see. 2023 Haugen lost to Lax Black in championship game Sunday, but there's a picture of the team proudly wearing t-shirt and claiming to be 2023 Champions on their website. WHAT????????
What a dope. Picture was from LAX Fest not LAX Clash - if you are going to come on this site at least take the time to understand what you are seeing/reading.
Wow talk about living in a glass house. Express parent complaining about older kids, lol
My guy All American, Loser
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express success is based on one thing. " There is a sucker born every day"
Got that right! They even try to convince themselves of how great they are. Hmmmm let's see. 2023 Haugen lost to Lax Black in championship game Sunday, but there's a picture of the team proudly wearing t-shirt and claiming to be 2023 Champions on their website. WHAT????????
What a dope. Picture was from LAX Fest not LAX Clash - if you are going to come on this site at least take the time to understand what you are seeing/reading.
My son could never make express but he is going for a half ride to a very good school(D1) which I would not be able to afford without scholarship.
What does that say about judging talent- it was all political, Kids parents who he thought would give the most money.
What does that say about judging talent- it was all political, Kids parents who he thought would give the most money.
They won Lax Fest. Probably would have won Lax Clash if they didn't play against a team of men
Really how about your giant attack MAN that will be 14 before half of the 2023 kids will be 12. Plus I know of numerous holdbacks on 2023 stop with your crap. Express cheats along with Laxblack, Crabs, Igloo and 90+1. Keep telling yourself your great. Make a team of all 11-12 year old boys and lets see how you do.
Really how about your giant attack MAN that will be 14 before half of the 2023 kids will be 12. Plus I know of numerous holdbacks on 2023 stop with your crap. Express cheats along with Laxblack, Crabs, Igloo and 90+1. Keep telling yourself your great. Make a team of all 11-12 year old boys and lets see how you do.
Whats up with the '28 team?
Don't know about the 28s, but they have really made a great effort in the newer grades and every age is competitive with the elite teams.. Channy has the 28s, so I sure they'll be good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats up with the '28 team?
Perhaps you realize that there is no '28 board on BOTC. That's because they're second graders . . . and really, no reason to be discussing 7 YO lacrosse on a internet forum!! YOU are what makes youth sports more and more problematic in soooooo many ways.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats up with the '28 team?
Perhaps you realize that there is no '28 board on BOTC. That's because they're second graders . . . and really, no reason to be discussing 7 YO lacrosse on a internet forum!! YOU are what makes youth sports more and more problematic in soooooo many ways.
So says the person discussing it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats up with the '28 team?
Perhaps you realize that there is no '28 board on BOTC. That's because they're second graders . . . and really, no reason to be discussing 7 YO lacrosse on a internet forum!! YOU are what makes youth sports more and more problematic in soooooo many ways.
So says the person discussing it.
I am not discussing it - I am criticizing your trying to discuss it!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats up with the '28 team?
Perhaps you realize that there is no '28 board on BOTC. That's because they're second graders . . . and really, no reason to be discussing 7 YO lacrosse on a internet forum!! YOU are what makes youth sports more and more problematic in soooooo many ways.
So says the person discussing it.
I am not discussing it - I am criticizing your trying to discuss it!
The blog police have put everyone on notice. No discussing 2028 lacrosse, unless you want to pass criticism about it. Then it's okay.
Thanks Troll. Express has a 28 team that is why i ask. I understand they are only 7 and was curious how intense it actually is in terms of practice and travel tournaments at that age. I assume you're another angry long islander with attitude picking fights be it verbal or virtual with whoever will give you the attention...
Just ignore. People forget this is supposed to be informative and sharing about lax. Just email Channy and he'll respond unlike a lot of coaches and directors. And let people say what they will, but his teams are always eventually the top 1, 2 or 3 team.
[quote=Anonymous]It's pretty amazing but since my kid has been playing club ball all i have heard is Express is losing its luster. It's going downhill. Yet year after year it reloads with players, teams, and coaches. It even has expanded to other states. Let's face it they have been the big dog for a long time. Yes other clubs have entered the fray and actually made an impact in the overall grand scheme but Express still stands and is still doing just fine. There will always be up years and down years for age groups in any program/business but as long as they are providing a service that people are willing to pay for they will be in business. There will always be those who are not happy and they will come on here and bash the program it's director and anything associated with Express. It's just like any business you can have thousands of happy customers but it's the one that is not happy for whatever the reason that complains and stirs the pot often posting multiple times with different attacks. I guarantee if only registered users could post the complaints coming from the same people would stop and as a result the posts on here complaing would be more than cut in
They do have the #1 or #2 team in most age groups on LI.
They do have the #1 or #2 team in most age groups on LI.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]It's pretty amazing but since my kid has been playing club ball all i have heard is Express is losing its luster. It's going downhill. Yet year after year it reloads with players, teams, and coaches. It even has expanded to other states. Let's face it they have been the big dog for a long time. Yes other clubs have entered the fray and actually made an impact in the overall grand scheme but Express still stands and is still doing just fine. There will always be up years and down years for age groups in any program/business but as long as they are providing a service that people are willing to pay for they will be in business. There will always be those who are not happy and they will come on here and bash the program it's director and anything associated with Express. It's just like any business you can have thousands of happy customers but it's the one that is not happy for whatever the reason that complains and stirs the pot often posting multiple times with different attacks. I guarantee if only registered users could post the complaints coming from the same people would stop and as a result the posts on here complaing would be more than cut in
They do have the #1 or #2 team in most age groups on LI.
They do have the #1 or #2 team in most age groups on LI.
The only reason half of the kids play for Express is because they want to try and get an edge in the Catholic schools. You know the 3
I guess this tread is back from vacation!
Kids don't only play Express because they go to Catholic school. If so, that's a mistake. Those schools don't care what club you played on, trust me. They play the best kids, end of story.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kids don't only play Express because they go to Catholic school. If so, that's a mistake. Those schools don't care what club you played on, trust me. They play the best kids, end of story.
Don't start that again! You know that is absolutely not true, the coaches and Brother Phoney Balloney absolutely give the edge to Express kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kids don't only play Express because they go to Catholic school. If so, that's a mistake. Those schools don't care what club you played on, trust me. They play the best kids, end of story.
Don't start that again! You know that is absolutely not true, the coaches and Brother Phoney Balloney absolutely give the edge to Express kids.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Leave at that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kids don't only play Express because they go to Catholic school. If so, that's a mistake. Those schools don't care what club you played on, trust me. They play the best kids, end of story.
Don't start that again! You know that is absolutely not true, the coaches and Brother Phoney Balloney absolutely give the edge to Express kids.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Leave at that.
Are you suggesting that we're all stupid? Express is feeder program for 3 catholic schools. Don't try that Scientology on us, ok Travolta...
You idiots do realize there is an actually test to get into "3 high schools" or any other catholic high schools for that matter! Yes, these schools LOVE being competitive in athletics but with Chaminade and St. as spending over 20 mill on science labs, SJB 5 mill plus on a library, that is not the schools sole purpose. These teams, sports are built to enhance the environment! They just happen to be damn good at them too!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kids don't only play Express because they go to Catholic school. If so, that's a mistake. Those schools don't care what club you played on, trust me. They play the best kids, end of story.
Don't start that again! You know that is absolutely not true, the coaches and Brother Phoney Balloney absolutely give the edge to Express kids.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Leave at that.
Are you suggesting that we're all stupid? Express is feeder program for 3 catholic schools. Don't try that Scientology on us, ok Travolta...
Clueless.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You idiots do realize there is an actually test to get into "3 high schools" or any other catholic high schools for that matter! Yes, these schools LOVE being competitive in athletics but with Chaminade and St. as spending over 20 mill on science labs, SJB 5 mill plus on a library, that is not the schools sole purpose. These teams, sports are built to enhance the environment! They just happen to be damn good at them too!!
It would appear from your post that you were not able to pass the test.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You idiots do realize there is an actually test to get into "3 high schools" or any other catholic high schools for that matter! Yes, these schools LOVE being competitive in athletics but with Chaminade and St. as spending over 20 mill on science labs, SJB 5 mill plus on a library, that is not the schools sole purpose. These teams, sports are built to enhance the environment! They just happen to be damn good at them too!!
It would appear from your post that you were not able to pass the test.
There were some very good seniors that did not play on Chaminade last year, also none of them played for express. get your head out of your [lacrosse].
Is anyone else surprised how BAD that 2022 Chucks team is? I would think since Channy puts his name on it they would be better. Guess its the typical money grab!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kids don't only play Express because they go to Catholic school. If so, that's a mistake. Those schools don't care what club you played on, trust me. They play the best kids, end of story.
LOL - politics of many sorts exist at every level of sports, from the pros on down! The best DO NOT always play! You are naive!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kids don't only play Express because they go to Catholic school. If so, that's a mistake. Those schools don't care what club you played on, trust me. They play the best kids, end of story.
LOL - politics of many sorts exist at every level of sports, from the pros on down! The best DO NOT always play! You are naive!
St Anthony's also plays kids who have graduated.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kids don't only play Express because they go to Catholic school. If so, that's a mistake. Those schools don't care what club you played on, trust me. They play the best kids, end of story.
LOL - politics of many sorts exist at every level of sports, from the pros on down! The best DO NOT always play! You are naive!
St Anthony's also plays kids who have graduated.
Are you talking about the issue from last year, which was NOT what happened?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone else surprised how BAD that 2022 Chucks team is? I would think since Channy puts his name on it they would be better. Guess its the typical money grab!
$100% Buyer beware...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone else surprised how BAD that 2022 Chucks team is? I would think since Channy puts his name on it they would be better. Guess its the typical money grab!
$100% Buyer beware...
Its ok pretty bad. The drop off from the top team to the Schwajle and the Chuck team. Yet people line up to pay it. Amazing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone else surprised how BAD that 2022 Chucks team is? I would think since Channy puts his name on it they would be better. Guess its the typical money grab!
$100% Buyer beware...
Its ok pretty bad. The drop off from the top team to the Schwajle and the Chuck team. Yet people line up to pay it. Amazing
The Schwalje team played for the 1st time today as a team and that team is solid for a 2nd team at a club. They are exactly where they should be, on par with 2nd tier club's A teams. They beat Express North, tied TV and lost to surprisingly scrappy and decent Hitmen team.
I watched Express Schwalje play when my son had a game next to them this morning. They are very good on D and all the kids can move the ball on offense. Coaches were very into the game making them move the ball. No 1v1 like other teams do with their best player. They seem like they will get better each week and will be able to compete with the better team. Channy and Igloo A are in a class all by themselves on LI. Sons team plays Chucks last weekend and they need a lot of work. They are a B/C team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I watched Express Schwalje play when my son had a game next to them this morning. They are very good on D and all the kids can move the ball on offense. Coaches were very into the game making them move the ball. No 1v1 like other teams do with their best player. They seem like they will get better each week and will be able to compete with the better team. Channy and Igloo A are in a class all by themselves on LI. Sons team plays Chucks last weekend and they need a lot of work. They are a B/C team.
Sure, you are watching a different game while your son's game is playing. Unless your son rides the bench, no one does this. Nice try.......Schwalje dad. Stop the hate......its fall ball.
hey dummy..my sons game was over and the other game was going on.refs kept the clock on the field of the games they were refereeing so i watched 5 mins of that game
Cheating, cheaters, money grabbing, huge rostering, playing down cheats!
The Schwalje team is a solid team. 1st year team and should do nothing but improve.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
hey dummy..my sons game was over and the other game was going on.refs kept the clock on the field of the games they were refereeing so i watched 5 mins of that game
Wow great assessment of a team with 30 players on it. All in 5 minutes of your spare time! Took longer for you to type it than you did of your watching.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
hey dummy..my sons game was over and the other game was going on.refs kept the clock on the field of the games they were refereeing so i watched 5 mins of that game
Wow great assessment of a team with 30 players on it. All in 5 minutes of your spare time! Took longer for you to type it than you did of your watching.
Only 22 on that team. It's normal size.
My has son played against Express over the years and I never see more than 23 on the sidelines. Why is there always posts stating 25+ on the roster? I've been reading this for years. Just curious.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Schwalje team is a solid team. 1st year team and should do nothing but improve.
They are average at best. You tied a town team and lost to a B team the Hitmen. The Chucks teams is down right terrible. They could stop anyone on defense and couldn't score goals. Call Chucks and O'Reilly and flat out money grab !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My has son played against Express over the years and I never see more than 23 on the sidelines. Why is there always posts stating 25+ on the roster? I've been reading this for years. Just curious.
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There may be 23 on the sidelines, but don't forget the 10 on the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My has son played against Express over the years and I never see more than 23 on the sidelines. Why is there always posts stating 25+ on the roster? I've been reading this for years. Just curious.
The 2021 team has close to 40 kids. Most never play, but for some reason stay on the team. Many have left teams like Ambush, Avalanche, Legacy as starters thinking that they were too good for those teams. Crazy to pay that kind of money for the privilege to practice with Express and wear the uniform.
Originally Posted by anonymousturd
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My has son played against Express over the years and I never see more than 23 on the sidelines. Why is there always posts stating 25+ on the roster? I've been reading this for years. Just curious.
There may be 23 on the sidelines, but don't forget the 10 on the field.
I spy a lot of orange standing around.
17 +/- on the sideline by my count--and that is what I can actually see.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by anonymousturd
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My has son played against Express over the years and I never see more than 23 on the sidelines. Why is there always posts stating 25+ on the roster? I've been reading this for years. Just curious.
There may be 23 on the sidelines, but don't forget the 10 on the field.
I spy a lot of orange standing around.
People make those choices to be on those teams with big rosters knowing that they may not play. To each his own.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Schwalje team is a solid team. 1st year team and should do nothing but improve.
They are average at best. You tied a town team and lost to a B team the Hitmen. The Chucks teams is down right terrible. They could stop anyone on defense and couldn't score goals. Call Chucks and O'Reilly and flat out money grab !
These teams have had great coaching and had over a dozen practices already, going twice a week. So in your opinion it's a money grab because they don't win? So everyone who has lost this fall, quit your clubs now. That's just a dumb statement, sorry. It's a "money grab" when you pay for a service and receive nothing. I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall. And everything has been well organized and well communicated.
Its crazy and truthfully I'm going to rethink next season. Express has A teams that have 25+ boys and then have a a few B teams with 15 or fewer boys.
Put your son on a team that has a normal roster but more importantly, he can play!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Schwalje team is a solid team. 1st year team and should do nothing but improve.
They are average at best. You tied a town team and lost to a B team the Hitmen. The Chucks teams is down right terrible. They could stop anyone on defense and couldn't score goals. Call Chucks and O'Reilly and flat out money grab !
These teams have had great coaching and had over a dozen practices already, going twice a week. So in your opinion it's a money grab because they don't win? So everyone who has lost this fall, quit your clubs now. That's just a dumb statement, sorry. It's a "money grab" when you pay for a service and receive nothing. I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall. And everything has been well organized and well communicated.
There are other teams that have had as many practices - both my sons' teams have actually had way over a dozen practices . . . how could you possible know if there are other clubs " . . . practicing more than the Express did this fall"??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Schwalje team is a solid team. 1st year team and should do nothing but improve.
They are average at best. You tied a town team and lost to a B team the Hitmen. The Chucks teams is down right terrible. They could stop anyone on defense and couldn't score goals. Call Chucks and O'Reilly and flat out money grab !
These teams have had great coaching and had over a dozen practices already, going twice a week. So in your opinion it's a money grab because they don't win? So everyone who has lost this fall, quit your clubs now. That's just a dumb statement, sorry. It's a "money grab" when you pay for a service and receive nothing. I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall. And everything has been well organized and well communicated.
There are other teams that have had as many practices - both my sons' teams have actually had way over a dozen practices . . . how could you possible know if there are other clubs " . . . practicing more than the Express did this fall"??
I said I don't know for sure. And what club are you affiliated with that is so awesome? Please let us all know since it's not Express. Do I hear crickets?
Channy 2022 has 38 players after adding another this past weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Schwalje team is a solid team. 1st year team and should do nothing but improve.
They are average at best. You tied a town team and lost to a B team the Hitmen. The Chucks teams is down right terrible. They could stop anyone on defense and couldn't score goals. Call Chucks and O'Reilly and flat out money grab !
These teams have had great coaching and had over a dozen practices already, going twice a week. So in your opinion it's a money grab because they don't win? So everyone who has lost this fall, quit your clubs now. That's just a dumb statement, sorry. It's a "money grab" when you pay for a service and receive nothing. I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall. And everything has been well organized and well communicated.
There are other teams that have had as many practices - both my sons' teams have actually had way over a dozen practices . . . how could you possible know if there are other clubs " . . . practicing more than the Express did this fall"??
I said I don't know for sure. And what club are you affiliated with that is so awesome? Please let us all know since it's not Express. Do I hear crickets?
What grade is being referred to here?
And it’s not even summer yet. Yikes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Schwalje team is a solid team. 1st year team and should do nothing but improve.
They are average at best. You tied a town team and lost to a B team the Hitmen. The Chucks teams is down right terrible. They could stop anyone on defense and couldn't score goals. Call Chucks and O'Reilly and flat out money grab !
These teams have had great coaching and had over a dozen practices already, going twice a week. So in your opinion it's a money grab because they don't win? So everyone who has lost this fall, quit your clubs now. That's just a dumb statement, sorry. It's a "money grab" when you pay for a service and receive nothing. I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall. And everything has been well organized and well communicated.
There are other teams that have had as many practices - both my sons' teams have actually had way over a dozen practices . . . how could you possible know if there are other clubs " . . . practicing more than the Express did this fall"??
I said I don't know for sure. And what club are you affiliated with that is so awesome? Please let us all know since it's not Express. Do I hear crickets?
What grade is being referred to here?
The club in general. Somebody claimed money grab because the team didn't win. Just another jealous critic. Best LI teams will be on display tomorrow at Mitchell Field.
Personally would rather see my son struggle on the field with a B or C team than struggle on the sidelines of an A. Let him work hard and start games on an appropriate level. If one day any B or C starters can advance to start A, then that's how it should work. Earn your way. Continue the badmouthing all you want, it all sounds like you're trying to make up for your own shortcomings. Let the kid have his own life. By the way, let me write your response for you "You're just jealous he's not playing A". LOL I'll be the guy watching my kid get better, with his teammates doing the same. If they kick your kids butt, all the better for them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Schwalje team is a solid team. 1st year team and should do nothing but improve.
They are average at best. You tied a town team and lost to a B team the Hitmen. The Chucks teams is down right terrible. They could stop anyone on defense and couldn't score goals. Call Chucks and O'Reilly and flat out money grab !
These teams have had great coaching and had over a dozen practices already, going twice a week. So in your opinion it's a money grab because they don't win? So everyone who has lost this fall, quit your clubs now. That's just a dumb statement, sorry. It's a "money grab" when you pay for a service and receive nothing. I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall. And everything has been well organized and well communicated.
There are other teams that have had as many practices - both my sons' teams have actually had way over a dozen practices . . . how could you possible know if there are other clubs " . . . practicing more than the Express did this fall"??
I said I don't know for sure. And what club are you affiliated with that is so awesome? Please let us all know since it's not Express. Do I hear crickets?
My sons aren't twins, so they play on different grade teams, and, for that matter, each plays for a different club - I hardly care to invite the inevitable BOTC sniping at either of their clubs, so you can forget me doing that! My post was an observation and response to your comment: ". . . I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall." That clearly implies that you feel very strongly that no other club has practices as nuch as your son's Express team (which for the record, I wasn't even following which one of LIE's teams your son plays on), and now,when called out, you want to go all soft and say you "said" you didn't know for sure??! And for the record, "I" am not affiliated with any club - my sons are the ones who play and ARE affiliated with their respective clubs - I don't make the mistake of getting all caught up in the "I" or "we" of youth sports (except maybe a little when I coach!). I may pay the bills, and root them on, but it ends there - if they win, I didn't really do anything to make that happen, so you'll never hear me say "we" won! You really need to get over yourself and try and do something on your own to earn an achievement that allows you to say "I".
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Schwalje team is a solid team. 1st year team and should do nothing but improve.
They are average at best. You tied a town team and lost to a B team the Hitmen. The Chucks teams is down right terrible. They could stop anyone on defense and couldn't score goals. Call Chucks and O'Reilly and flat out money grab !
These teams have had great coaching and had over a dozen practices already, going twice a week. So in your opinion it's a money grab because they don't win? So everyone who has lost this fall, quit your clubs now. That's just a dumb statement, sorry. It's a "money grab" when you pay for a service and receive nothing. I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall. And everything has been well organized and well communicated.
There are other teams that have had as many practices - both my sons' teams have actually had way over a dozen practices . . . how could you possible know if there are other clubs " . . . practicing more than the Express did this fall"??
I said I don't know for sure. And what club are you affiliated with that is so awesome? Please let us all know since it's not Express. Do I hear crickets?
My sons aren't twins, so they play on different grade teams, and, for that matter, each plays for a different club - I hardly care to invite the inevitable BOTC sniping at either of their clubs, so you can forget me doing that! My post was an observation and response to your comment: ". . . I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall." That clearly implies that you feel very strongly that no other club has practices as nuch as your son's Express team (which for the record, I wasn't even following which one of LIE's teams your son plays on), and now,when called out, you want to go all soft and say you "said" you didn't know for sure??! And for the record, "I" am not affiliated with any club - my sons are the ones who play and ARE affiliated with their respective clubs - I don't make the mistake of getting all caught up in the "I" or "we" of youth sports (except maybe a little when I coach!). I may pay the bills, and root them on, but it ends there - if they win, I didn't really do anything to make that happen, so you'll never hear me say "we" won! You really need to get over yourself and try and do something on your own to earn an achievement that allows you to say "I".
"I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall." Try reading the thread.
Cheating scum cheaters!
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These teams have had great coaching and had over a dozen practices already, going twice a week. So in your opinion it's a money grab because they don't win? So everyone who has lost this fall, quit your clubs now. That's just a dumb statement, sorry. It's a "money grab" when you pay for a service and receive nothing. I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall. And everything has been well organized and well communicated. [/quote]
There are other teams that have had as many practices - both my sons' teams have actually had way over a dozen practices . . . how could you possible know if there are other clubs " . . . practicing more than the Express did this fall"??[/quote]
I said I don't know for sure. And what club are you affiliated with that is so awesome? Please let us all know since it's not Express. Do I hear crickets?[/quote]
My sons aren't twins, so they play on different grade teams, and, for that matter, each plays for a different club - I hardly care to invite the inevitable BOTC sniping at either of their clubs, so you can forget me doing that! My post was an observation and response to your comment: ". . . I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall." That clearly implies that you feel very strongly that no other club has practices as nuch as your son's Express team (which for the record, I wasn't even following which one of LIE's teams your son plays on), and now,when called out, you want to go all soft and say you "said" you didn't know for sure??! And for the record, "I" am not affiliated with any club - my sons are the ones who play and ARE affiliated with their respective clubs - I don't make the mistake of getting all caught up in the "I" or "we" of youth sports (except maybe a little when I coach!). I may pay the bills, and root them on, but it ends there - if they win, I didn't really do anything to make that happen, so you'll never hear me say "we" won! You really need to get over yourself and try and do something on your own to earn an achievement that allows you to say "I".
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"I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall." Try reading the thread. [/quote]
Maybe you should go look up the meaning of "dissemble"...
These teams have had great coaching and had over a dozen practices already, going twice a week. So in your opinion it's a money grab because they don't win? So everyone who has lost this fall, quit your clubs now. That's just a dumb statement, sorry. It's a "money grab" when you pay for a service and receive nothing. I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall. And everything has been well organized and well communicated. [/quote]
There are other teams that have had as many practices - both my sons' teams have actually had way over a dozen practices . . . how could you possible know if there are other clubs " . . . practicing more than the Express did this fall"??[/quote]
I said I don't know for sure. And what club are you affiliated with that is so awesome? Please let us all know since it's not Express. Do I hear crickets?[/quote]
My sons aren't twins, so they play on different grade teams, and, for that matter, each plays for a different club - I hardly care to invite the inevitable BOTC sniping at either of their clubs, so you can forget me doing that! My post was an observation and response to your comment: ". . . I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall." That clearly implies that you feel very strongly that no other club has practices as nuch as your son's Express team (which for the record, I wasn't even following which one of LIE's teams your son plays on), and now,when called out, you want to go all soft and say you "said" you didn't know for sure??! And for the record, "I" am not affiliated with any club - my sons are the ones who play and ARE affiliated with their respective clubs - I don't make the mistake of getting all caught up in the "I" or "we" of youth sports (except maybe a little when I coach!). I may pay the bills, and root them on, but it ends there - if they win, I didn't really do anything to make that happen, so you'll never hear me say "we" won! You really need to get over yourself and try and do something on your own to earn an achievement that allows you to say "I".
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"I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall." Try reading the thread. [/quote]
Maybe you should go look up the meaning of "dissemble"...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Schwalje team is a solid team. 1st year team and should do nothing but improve.
They are average at best. You tied a town team and lost to a B team the Hitmen. The Chucks teams is down right terrible. They could stop anyone on defense and couldn't score goals. Call Chucks and O'Reilly and flat out money grab !
These teams have had great coaching and had over a dozen practices already, going twice a week. So in your opinion it's a money grab because they don't win? So everyone who has lost this fall, quit your clubs now. That's just a dumb statement, sorry. It's a "money grab" when you pay for a service and receive nothing. I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall. And everything has been well organized and well communicated.
There are other teams that have had as many practices - both my sons' teams have actually had way over a dozen practices . . . how could you possible know if there are other clubs " . . . practicing more than the Express did this fall"??
I said I don't know for sure. And what club are you affiliated with that is so awesome? Please let us all know since it's not Express. Do I hear crickets?
My sons aren't twins, so they play on different grade teams, and, for that matter, each plays for a different club - I hardly care to invite the inevitable BOTC sniping at either of their clubs, so you can forget me doing that! My post was an observation and response to your comment: ". . . I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall." That clearly implies that you feel very strongly that no other club has practices as nuch as your son's Express team (which for the record, I wasn't even following which one of LIE's teams your son plays on), and now,when called out, you want to go all soft and say you "said" you didn't know for sure??! And for the record, "I" am not affiliated with any club - my sons are the ones who play and ARE affiliated with their respective clubs - I don't make the mistake of getting all caught up in the "I" or "we" of youth sports (except maybe a little when I coach!). I may pay the bills, and root them on, but it ends there - if they win, I didn't really do anything to make that happen, so you'll never hear me say "we" won! You really need to get over yourself and try and do something on your own to earn an achievement that allows you to say "I".
This is the kind of response that is so twisted. You tell someone to get over themselves as you spend a ridiculous amount of words to brag about yourself. Pot meet kettle.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I watched Express Schwalje play when my son had a game next to them this morning. They are very good on D and all the kids can move the ball on offense. Coaches were very into the game making them move the ball. No 1v1 like other teams do with their best player. They seem like they will get better each week and will be able to compete with the better team. Channy and Igloo A are in a class all by themselves on LI. Sons team plays Chucks last weekend and they need a lot of work. They are a B/C team.
Schwalje team is very good. They only lost to one of the North teams today, the one that is mostly players from Wilton, Darien, and Staples CT.
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These teams have had great coaching and had over a dozen practices already, going twice a week. So in your opinion it's a money grab because they don't win? So everyone who has lost this fall, quit your clubs now. That's just a dumb statement, sorry. It's a "money grab" when you pay for a service and receive nothing. I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall. And everything has been well organized and well communicated. [/quote]
There are other teams that have had as many practices - both my sons' teams have actually had way over a dozen practices . . . how could you possible know if there are other clubs " . . . practicing more than the Express did this fall"??[/quote]
I said I don't know for sure. And what club are you affiliated with that is so awesome? Please let us all know since it's not Express. Do I hear crickets?[/quote]
My sons aren't twins, so they play on different grade teams, and, for that matter, each plays for a different club - I hardly care to invite the inevitable BOTC sniping at either of their clubs, so you can forget me doing that! My post was an observation and response to your comment: ". . . I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall." That clearly implies that you feel very strongly that no other club has practices as nuch as your son's Express team (which for the record, I wasn't even following which one of LIE's teams your son plays on), and now,when called out, you want to go all soft and say you "said" you didn't know for sure??! And for the record, "I" am not affiliated with any club - my sons are the ones who play and ARE affiliated with their respective clubs - I don't make the mistake of getting all caught up in the "I" or "we" of youth sports (except maybe a little when I coach!). I may pay the bills, and root them on, but it ends there - if they win, I didn't really do anything to make that happen, so you'll never hear me say "we" won! You really need to get over yourself and try and do something on your own to earn an achievement that allows you to say "I".
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This is the kind of response that is so twisted. You tell someone to get over themselves as you spend a ridiculous amount of words to brag about yourself. Pot meet kettle.
[/quote]
I must have missed the brag part - where exactly was that??
These teams have had great coaching and had over a dozen practices already, going twice a week. So in your opinion it's a money grab because they don't win? So everyone who has lost this fall, quit your clubs now. That's just a dumb statement, sorry. It's a "money grab" when you pay for a service and receive nothing. I don't know for sure, but I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall. And everything has been well organized and well communicated. [/quote]
There are other teams that have had as many practices - both my sons' teams have actually had way over a dozen practices . . . how could you possible know if there are other clubs " . . . practicing more than the Express did this fall"??[/quote]
I said I don't know for sure. And what club are you affiliated with that is so awesome? Please let us all know since it's not Express. Do I hear crickets?[/quote]
My sons aren't twins, so they play on different grade teams, and, for that matter, each plays for a different club - I hardly care to invite the inevitable BOTC sniping at either of their clubs, so you can forget me doing that! My post was an observation and response to your comment: ". . . I can't see a club that is practicing more than the Express did this fall." That clearly implies that you feel very strongly that no other club has practices as nuch as your son's Express team (which for the record, I wasn't even following which one of LIE's teams your son plays on), and now,when called out, you want to go all soft and say you "said" you didn't know for sure??! And for the record, "I" am not affiliated with any club - my sons are the ones who play and ARE affiliated with their respective clubs - I don't make the mistake of getting all caught up in the "I" or "we" of youth sports (except maybe a little when I coach!). I may pay the bills, and root them on, but it ends there - if they win, I didn't really do anything to make that happen, so you'll never hear me say "we" won! You really need to get over yourself and try and do something on your own to earn an achievement that allows you to say "I".
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This is the kind of response that is so twisted. You tell someone to get over themselves as you spend a ridiculous amount of words to brag about yourself. Pot meet kettle.
[/quote]
I must have missed the brag part - where exactly was that??
Interesting....now we are counting how many practices. Geez. You all need help.
How do the LIE 2024 teams compare? Which one is considered the best, second best?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How do the LIE 2024 teams compare? Which one is considered the best, second best?
Two very good teams. Both lost by a goal this weekend in their respective championship. Great coaching.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How do the LIE 2024 teams compare? Which one is considered the best, second best?
Two very good teams. Both lost by a goal this weekend in their respective championship. Great coaching.
How about the 2024 team that was in Maryland at Battle on the Bay? Are there three teams?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How do the LIE 2024 teams compare? Which one is considered the best, second best?
Two very good teams. Both lost by a goal this weekend in their respective championship. Great coaching.
My sons team played both express teams, they are both good the Schwalle (spelling, sorry) is definitely their A team. FO kid is great, good D and goalie play and offense can move it. Both teams parents seemed decent, made complimentary comments when opposing players nice plays or a good save. I don't know why all the bashing on here - must be some past issues maybe with the organization in general. No complaints about their 2 2024 teams at tri star this weekend. .
CHEATING CHEATERS!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How do the LIE 2024 teams compare? Which one is considered the best, second best?
Schwalje is a top team...just behind Wolfpack and Taz
The North A Team is very good
O’Reilly is a middle of the pack B team
How was the Annapolis Tourney today?
Any info on express box program yet? When's it start and what age levels are they accepting?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any info on express box program yet? When's it start and what age levels are they accepting?
Yeah, it will cost you $850 extra
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any info on express box program yet? When's it start and what age levels are they accepting?
My friend, it's already going and picked. You're not included. You have to pay Channy enough to get in the secret club.
Leg a sea guys get more box...
want your kids to get better at lacrosse with paying 850 for box lacrosse? sign them up for Basketball.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
want your kids to get better at lacrosse with paying 850 for box lacrosse? sign them up for Basketball.
Box for very skilled stick players. Meaning if you're on a B team you should spend the money training and buying a lax back.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
want your kids to get better at lacrosse with paying 850 for box lacrosse? sign them up for Basketball.
Box for very skilled stick players. Meaning if you're on a B team you should spend the money training and buying a lax back.
Haha alot of the b players have better stick skills then the A kids, Just not as big and mature if you know what I mean?
What is the pecking order Express '20 teams? Thank you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is the pecking order Express '20 teams? Thank you.
#1 is Channy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is the pecking order Express '20 teams? Thank you.
#1 is Channy
😂
That was helpful...
So back to lacrosse. My son has been invited to play on the 2022 Schwajle team. Any thoughts?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So back to lacrosse. My son has been invited to play on the 2022 Schwajle team. Any thoughts?
Go find another team. Because unless somebody decide to quit aftwr the fall, the roster size is perfect.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So back to lacrosse. My son has been invited to play on the 2022 Schwajle team. Any thoughts?
So, you are considering having your son play on a team.that already has been chosen through tryouts? Are you also a guy who has an affair with a married woman, and then wonders why she subsequently cheats on you?? Just as they are willing to displace someone already committed to the team for your son, so too will they be willing to do the same thing to him! SMFH
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So back to lacrosse. My son has been invited to play on the 2022 Schwajle team. Any thoughts?
So, you are considering having your son play on a team.that already has been chosen through tryouts? Are you also a guy who has an affair with a married woman, and then wonders why she subsequently cheats on you?? Just as they are willing to displace someone already committed to the team for your son, so too will they be willing to do the same thing to him!
And what kind of person would ask them to join the team? LI Express management are the worst kind of people..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So back to lacrosse. My son has been invited to play on the 2022 Schwajle team. Any thoughts?
So, you are considering having your son play on a team.that already has been chosen through tryouts? Are you also a guy who has an affair with a married woman, and then wonders why she subsequently cheats on you?? Just as they are willing to displace someone already committed to the team for your son, so too will they be willing to do the same thing to him!
And what kind of person would ask them to join the team? LI Express management are the worst kind of people..
I doubt any new kid received an invite.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So back to lacrosse. My son has been invited to play on the 2022 Schwajle team. Any thoughts?
So, you are considering having your son play on a team.that already has been chosen through tryouts? Are you also a guy who has an affair with a married woman, and then wonders why she subsequently cheats on you?? Just as they are willing to displace someone already committed to the team for your son, so too will they be willing to do the same thing to him!
Exactly! And don't expect to be welcomed with open arms. The parents and players will not be pleased with your persons decision to take playing time away from current players.
Seriously. Don’t listen to these guys. If you have a good opportunity seize it. Just know that the same thing will happen again. The kids don’t care. They respect talent. Just don’t get too comfortable.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So back to lacrosse. My son has been invited to play on the 2022 Schwajle team. Any thoughts?
So, you are considering having your son play on a team.that already has been chosen through tryouts? Are you also a guy who has an affair with a married woman, and then wonders why she subsequently cheats on you?? Just as they are willing to displace someone already committed to the team for your son, so too will they be willing to do the same thing to him!
And what kind of person would ask them to join the team? LI Express management are the worst kind of people..
I doubt any new kid received an invite.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So back to lacrosse. My son has been invited to play on the 2022 Schwajle team. Any thoughts?
So, you are considering having your son play on a team.that already has been chosen through tryouts? Are you also a guy who has an affair with a married woman, and then wonders why she subsequently cheats on you?? Just as they are willing to displace someone already committed to the team for your son, so too will they be willing to do the same thing to him!
And what kind of person would ask them to join the team? LI Express management are the worst kind of people..
I doubt any new kid received an invite.
You doubt it? Unfortunate I do not. It’s the Channy we know and love.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is the pecking order Express '20 teams? Thank you.
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Every team is order from bottom to top.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So back to lacrosse. My son has been invited to play on the 2022 Schwajle team. Any thoughts?
Yeah, good team and had a decent fall. But no winter practice. Really dissapointed because the team is good and so is the coaching.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So back to lacrosse. My son has been invited to play on the 2022 Schwajle team. Any thoughts?
Yeah, good team and had a decent fall. But no winter practice. Really dissapointed because the team is good and so is the coaching.
That just shows you that Chan does not care about any team other than his. The Chan 2022 team has practiced all Winter long ...... shocker!! The 2nd team is not an A team cause Chan took all the best players for his team. The 3rd and 4th teams are just money grabs. But you are on Express so look at the bright side!!
Every year it's the same thing! 91 wins Denver everybody runs their. legacy wins, everybody runs to them, express wins it everybody runs their! I know parents that swore their kid would never play for express again and guess who they are playing for, I just don't get it!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Every year it's the same thing! 91 wins Denver everybody runs their. legacy wins, everybody runs to them, express wins it everybody runs their! I know parents that swore their kid would never play for express again and guess who they are playing for, I just don't get it!
there not their
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So back to lacrosse. My son has been invited to play on the 2022 Schwajle team. Any thoughts?
Yeah, good team and had a decent fall. But no winter practice. Really dissapointed because the team is good and so is the coaching.
That just shows you that Chan does not care about any team other than his. The Chan 2022 team has practiced all Winter long ...... shocker!! The 2nd team is not an A team cause Chan took all the best players for his team. The 3rd and 4th teams are just money grabs. But you are on Express so look at the bright side!!
With Schwalje we had a winter practice schedule, we are playing all spring and have a separate summer schedule. And positional training was offered all winter at the St. Anthony's field house. Really happy with this team, solid schedule, but not a crazy one either.
How many express teams are there for 2022?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many express teams are there for 2022?
Coach C 2022
CoachMor 2022
Not sure if there is a 3rd or not.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many express teams are there for 2022?
Anyone?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many express teams are there for 2022?
Anyone?
Two.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many express teams are there for 2022?
Anyone?
Two.
two that should be four
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many express teams are there for 2022?
Anyone?
Two.
two that should be four
That is tunny
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many express teams are there for 2022?
Anyone?
Two.
two that should be four
Wait until spring and all of Coach C's guest players start popping up! Unreal.....
how many express teams for 2027 and 2028?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many express teams are there for 2022?
Anyone?
Two.
two that should be four
Wait until spring and all of Coach C's guest players start popping up! Unreal.....
Not yet at least. They only put like 27 kids on each team as of now but who knows if that will change.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many express teams are there for 2022?
Anyone?
Two.
two that should be four
Wait until spring and all of Coach C's guest players start popping up! Unreal.....
Not yet at least. They only put like 27 kids on each team as of now but who knows if that will change.
That is because it is still fall. Coach Mor has 28 already plus a new player popped up at practice on Sunday. $$$$$$$
2026 team has 20
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2026 team has 20
HAH! That's only if you count A as 2 teams!
Then there's B with another 20+
Who knows what new faces will pop up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many express teams are there for 2022?
Anyone?
Two.
two that should be four
Wait until spring and all of Coach C's guest players start popping up! Unreal.....
Not yet at least. They only put like 27 kids on each team as of now but who knows if that will change.
ONLY 27???!!!! That is crazy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2026 team has 20
AA / A teams have 40 kids I'm sure they will move kids around as season goes along. Then there's the 3rd development team with 20+. 3 teams this year. Mike C is rolling in it this year!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2026 team has 20
AA / A teams have 40 kids I'm sure they will move kids around as season goes along. Then there's the 3rd development team with 20+. 3 teams this year. Mike C is rolling in it this year!
FALSE! I'm a Parent and this is false. The A team right now has 28 kids on it and the AA team has 30. Yes will be moving kids back and forth.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2026 team has 20
AA / A teams have 40 kids I'm sure they will move kids around as season goes along. Then there's the 3rd development team with 20+. 3 teams this year. Mike C is rolling in it this year!
FALSE! I'm a Parent and this is false. The A team right now has 28 kids on it and the AA team has 30. Yes will be moving kids back and forth.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2026 team has 20
AA / A teams have 40 kids I'm sure they will move kids around as season goes along. Then there's the 3rd development team with 20+. 3 teams this year. Mike C is rolling in it this year!
FALSE! I'm a Parent and this is false. The A team right now has 28 kids on it and the AA team has 30. Yes will be moving kids back and forth.
How can you even say that with a straight face?
58 kids between 2 teams?? AA and A??
As far as I know, there is no true distinction between the 2.
If so which on is sitting in the B bracket right now for Blatant right?
Because the other one is the "developmental" team.
58 kids @ $4k each . . .
Only one team in that age group is getting the attention that price tag calls for.
what is not a money grab? Piano lessons? SAT tutoring? Heck... ever see what dancing school costs look like? Lax lessons? thats a real money grab... if you have kids, you know all this nonsense is a "money grab".... show me some NFP businesses doing lacrosse tournaments, and i am there
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2026 team has 20
AA / A teams have 40 kids I'm sure they will move kids around as season goes along. Then there's the 3rd development team with 20+. 3 teams this year. Mike C is rolling in it this year!
FALSE! I'm a Parent and this is false. The A team right now has 28 kids on it and the AA team has 30. Yes will be moving kids back and forth.
How can you even say that with a straight face?
58 kids between 2 teams?? AA and A??
As far as I know, there is no true distinction between the 2.
If so which on is sitting in the B bracket right now for Blatant right?
Because the other one is the "developmental" team.
58 kids @ $4k each . . .
Only one team in that age group is getting the attention that price tag calls for.
ok then go to the Rebels. They rot also, but are in the same town.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what is not a money grab? Piano lessons? SAT tutoring? Heck... ever see what dancing school costs look like? Lax lessons? thats a real money grab... if you have kids, you know all this nonsense is a "money grab".... show me some NFP businesses doing lacrosse tournaments, and i am there
The difference is at most places, they tell you what you are going to get and give you what they promise.
Express is a mess, we have had terrible years and some OK/good years. There is zero planning and Coach Chan only cares about the starters on his team. There is zero thought given to the B,C and D teams. Basically an implied catholic school mafia. Want to play at a catholic high school, you better play at Express. I'm not even sure if its true or not! Worst part is that with a bit of organization and a little less greed, it could be 1000% better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2026 team has 20
AA / A teams have 40 kids I'm sure they will move kids around as season goes along. Then there's the 3rd development team with 20+. 3 teams this year. Mike C is rolling in it this year!
FALSE! I'm a Parent and this is false. The A team right now has 28 kids on it and the AA team has 30. Yes will be moving kids back and forth.
Ahhhhh the promise of moving players up and down as Coach Chan needs them. Never happens, he only plays the best 18 players. All these years and I still can't figure out if its better to be on the bottom half of the AA or playing on the A (really a B/B- team). And then the dreaded 3rd team where you get a different coach every 3 weeks....lax heck for sure.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2026 team has 20
AA / A teams have 40 kids I'm sure they will move kids around as season goes along. Then there's the 3rd development team with 20+. 3 teams this year. Mike C is rolling in it this year!
FALSE! I'm a Parent and this is false. The A team right now has 28 kids on it and the AA team has 30. Yes will be moving kids back and forth.
Also a parent...all they did was give us the fall schedule and which ones the kids were playing...25 on the top team, 26 on the second team, I'm looking at the file. 41 kids total on the roster. No one is calling it AA btw, except of course the manipulative parents that think they can control the team and like the way Coach C's butt tastes.
I don’t understand what the big deal is. It’s two teams practicing together and everyone knows who is on each team. The movement will be likely minimal, but it’s a very good A team and really good B team, the way things should be. And it’s not 4K for Express this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t understand what the big deal is. It’s two teams practicing together and everyone knows who is on each team. The movement will be likely minimal, but it’s a very good A team and really good B team, the way things should be. And it’s not 4K for Express this year.
Then what is it?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t understand what the big deal is. It’s two teams practicing together and everyone knows who is on each team. The movement will be likely minimal, but it’s a very good A team and really good B team, the way things should be. And it’s not 4K for Express this year.
Then what is it?
Have your son tryout and make a team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t understand what the big deal is. It’s two teams practicing together and everyone knows who is on each team. The movement will be likely minimal, but it’s a very good A team and really good B team, the way things should be. And it’s not 4K for Express this year.
Then what is it?
Have your son tryout and make a team.
If you have the money, he will make a team, regardless of his skills
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t understand what the big deal is. It’s two teams practicing together and everyone knows who is on each team. The movement will be likely minimal, but it’s a very good A team and really good B team, the way things should be. And it’s not 4K for Express this year.
Then what is it?
$3995.00
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t understand what the big deal is. It’s two teams practicing together and everyone knows who is on each team. The movement will be likely minimal, but it’s a very good A team and really good B team, the way things should be. And it’s not 4K for Express this year.
Then what is it?
$3995.00
the correct answer is 3k for second team 4k for top team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t understand what the big deal is. It’s two teams practicing together and everyone knows who is on each team. The movement will be likely minimal, but it’s a very good A team and really good B team, the way things should be. And it’s not 4K for Express this year.
Then what is it?
$3995.00
the correct answer is 3k for second team 4k for top team
Plus $120 because they charge you back the credit card fee!!!!!! With no other option to pay.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t understand what the big deal is. It’s two teams practicing together and everyone knows who is on each team. The movement will be likely minimal, but it’s a very good A team and really good B team, the way things should be. And it’s not 4K for Express this year.
Then what is it?
$3995.00
the correct answer is 3k for second team 4k for top team
Plus $120 because they charge you back the credit card fee!!!!!! With no other option to pay.
Truth
Buyer beware......If your kid is going to Chaminade, playing Express is like being in the mafia. Once you are in you cannot get out.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buyer beware......If your kid is going to Chaminade, playing Express is like being in the mafia. Once you are in you cannot get out.....
Clueless.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buyer beware......If your kid is going to Chaminade, playing Express is like being in the mafia. Once you are in you cannot get out.....
Clueless.
Don't know about it being clueless. It is certainly the perception out there.
From my experience, Chammy cut a bunch of Express players at tryouts. Not sure if the Express helmet really helps or not. Coaches seem to play the best players at each position, regardless of club teams.
If a player is just above the cut line, maybe Express helps. Especially if the coach has coached the player in club. Maybe?
Maybe they give the nod to Express player to start over another but only if 2 players are of equal talents. Maybe?
If a non-express parent's kid does not start or play, certainly they may think their son is getting screwed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buyer beware......If your kid is going to Chaminade, playing Express is like being in the mafia. Once you are in you cannot get out.....
Clueless.
Don't know about it being clueless. It is certainly the perception out there.
From my experience, Chammy cut a bunch of Express players at tryouts. Not sure if the Express helmet really helps or not. Coaches seem to play the best players at each position, regardless of club teams.
If a player is just above the cut line, maybe Express helps. Especially if the coach has coached the player in club. Maybe?
Maybe they give the nod to Express player to start over another but only if 2 players are of equal talents. Maybe?
If a non-express parent's kid does not start or play, certainly they may think their son is getting screwed.
Perception. Is the not the reality. Clueless
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buyer beware......If your kid is going to Chaminade, playing Express is like being in the mafia. Once you are in you cannot get out.....
Clueless.
Don't know about it being clueless. It is certainly the perception out there.
From my experience, Chammy cut a bunch of Express players at tryouts. Not sure if the Express helmet really helps or not. Coaches seem to play the best players at each position, regardless of club teams.
If a player is just above the cut line, maybe Express helps. Especially if the coach has coached the player in club. Maybe?
Maybe they give the nod to Express player to start over another but only if 2 players are of equal talents. Maybe?
If a non-express parent's kid does not start or play, certainly they may think their son is getting screwed.
Perception. Is the not the reality. Clueless
Said the guy with no kid at Chaminade......Why don't you try it and then report back?
the 2025's had a good scrimmage against empire over the weekend
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the 2025's had a good scrimmage against empire over the weekend
Good as in everyone got in and they won by 10?
A lot of B team detest on some of these threads. If a kid is brand new to travel and gets placed on a B team at 9 years old, that's a waste of money? A and B pay same amount and B team seems to be good coaching so far.
Curious as to what the general consensus is on when it becomes a waste. Immediately? If kid doesn't move up to A in a year or 2? Do most good B players need to move teams for a shot at A or do you see them moved up often?
Curious as to what the general consensus is on when it becomes a waste. Immediately? If kid doesn't move up to A in a year or 2? Do most good B players need to move teams for a shot at A or do you see them moved up often?
Will express offer goalie training again this winter? if so any information to sign up? thanks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buyer beware......If your kid is going to Chaminade, playing Express is like being in the mafia. Once you are in you cannot get out.....
Clueless.
Don't know about it being clueless. It is certainly the perception out there.
From my experience, Chammy cut a bunch of Express players at tryouts. Not sure if the Express helmet really helps or not. Coaches seem to play the best players at each position, regardless of club teams.
If a player is just above the cut line, maybe Express helps. Especially if the coach has coached the player in club. Maybe?
Maybe they give the nod to Express player to start over another but only if 2 players are of equal talents. Maybe?
If a non-express parent's kid does not start or play, certainly they may think their son is getting screwed.
Perception. Is the not the reality. Clueless
Said the guy with no kid at Chaminade......Why don't you try it and then report back?
Wrong, like said clueless.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buyer beware......If your kid is going to Chaminade, playing Express is like being in the mafia. Once you are in you cannot get out.....
Clueless.
Don't know about it being clueless. It is certainly the perception out there.
From my experience, Chammy cut a bunch of Express players at tryouts. Not sure if the Express helmet really helps or not. Coaches seem to play the best players at each position, regardless of club teams.
If a player is just above the cut line, maybe Express helps. Especially if the coach has coached the player in club. Maybe?
Maybe they give the nod to Express player to start over another but only if 2 players are of equal talents. Maybe?
If a non-express parent's kid does not start or play, certainly they may think their son is getting screwed.
Perception. Is the not the reality. Clueless
Said the guy with no kid at Chaminade......Why don't you try it and then report back?
Wrong, like said clueless.
Ok, I give up, Have it your way,
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will express offer goalie training again this winter? if so any information to sign up? thanks.
If they made money at it last year, they will for sure do it again.
Winter training (extra $$$$ of course) maybe their best program Express operates.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buyer beware......If your kid is going to Chaminade, playing Express is like being in the mafia. Once you are in you cannot get out.....
Clueless.
Don't know about it being clueless. It is certainly the perception out there.
From my experience, Chammy cut a bunch of Express players at tryouts. Not sure if the Express helmet really helps or not. Coaches seem to play the best players at each position, regardless of club teams.
If a player is just above the cut line, maybe Express helps. Especially if the coach has coached the player in club. Maybe?
Maybe they give the nod to Express player to start over another but only if 2 players are of equal talents. Maybe?
If a non-express parent's kid does not start or play, certainly they may think their son is getting screwed.
Perception. Is the not the reality. Clueless
Said the guy with no kid at Chaminade......Why don't you try it and then report back?
Wrong, like said clueless.
You have used up your quota of the word 'clueless'for the season plus we know you think you can do better than a simple compound word.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A lot of B team detest on some of these threads. If a kid is brand new to travel and gets placed on a B team at 9 years old, that's a waste of money? A and B pay same amount and B team seems to be good coaching so far.
Curious as to what the general consensus is on when it becomes a waste. Immediately? If kid doesn't move up to A in a year or 2? Do most good B players need to move teams for a shot at A or do you see them moved up often?
Curious as to what the general consensus is on when it becomes a waste. Immediately? If kid doesn't move up to A in a year or 2? Do most good B players need to move teams for a shot at A or do you see them moved up often?
Sounds like your son is young. From our experience, not too many players move up. It does happen though and more likely the older they get, 8th grade and up.
B teams at Express is definitely a garbage shoot. Some great coaching some years, non-existent coaching other years. Unfortunately, most years they just don't keep the same coaching staff for the same B team. No continuity at all.
Don't accept a B team slot if Coach Chan says he will be the coach, total disaster. He does not have the patience to coach emerging players. He is all about his A teams. Eventually he will leave the B team high and dry.
As a B team family at Express, you need to be OK that the A team practices year round and gets indoor time over the winter for the same price as you pay. B teams rarely get extra practices, some years, you don't even get the tourneys you were promised.
The other issue with B teams at Express (and other clubs, I'm sure) is the team itself. Tryouts are a joke and no one gets cut. So it turns out that the bottom half of that B team has players that can't catch or throw the ball. The parents are just happy to be on the team and have no real interest in having their child improve. These families miss half of the practices but kids still play in tourneys. Disastrous during tourneys. Very frustrating for families that want the team and players to improve. I'm not saying win at all costs, I'm praying not to go 0-6 after a 5 hour drive to MD where the team goal differential is -50+. Rarely does Express put B teams in the proper tourneys so then there is a scramble to find less competitive tourneys for the team. Some years, it was week to week where we were going attend.
I will say that my son has had some great coaching and has improved greatly over the years at Express. His improvement is mostly due to a hand full of Express coaches and his work ethic with his stick skills.
Moving teams to find an A team is also very difficult.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A lot of B team detest on some of these threads. If a kid is brand new to travel and gets placed on a B team at 9 years old, that's a waste of money? A and B pay same amount and B team seems to be good coaching so far.
Curious as to what the general consensus is on when it becomes a waste. Immediately? If kid doesn't move up to A in a year or 2? Do most good B players need to move teams for a shot at A or do you see them moved up often?
Curious as to what the general consensus is on when it becomes a waste. Immediately? If kid doesn't move up to A in a year or 2? Do most good B players need to move teams for a shot at A or do you see them moved up often?
Sounds like your son is young. From our experience, not too many players move up. It does happen though and more likely the older they get, 8th grade and up.
B teams at Express is definitely a garbage shoot. Some great coaching some years, non-existent coaching other years. Unfortunately, most years they just don't keep the same coaching staff for the same B team. No continuity at all.
Don't accept a B team slot if Coach Chan says he will be the coach, total disaster. He does not have the patience to coach emerging players. He is all about his A teams. Eventually he will leave the B team high and dry.
As a B team family at Express, you need to be OK that the A team practices year round and gets indoor time over the winter for the same price as you pay. B teams rarely get extra practices, some years, you don't even get the tourneys you were promised.
The other issue with B teams at Express (and other clubs, I'm sure) is the team itself. Tryouts are a joke and no one gets cut. So it turns out that the bottom half of that B team has players that can't catch or throw the ball. The parents are just happy to be on the team and have no real interest in having their child improve. These families miss half of the practices but kids still play in tourneys. Disastrous during tourneys. Very frustrating for families that want the team and players to improve. I'm not saying win at all costs, I'm praying not to go 0-6 after a 5 hour drive to MD where the team goal differential is -50+. Rarely does Express put B teams in the proper tourneys so then there is a scramble to find less competitive tourneys for the team. Some years, it was week to week where we were going attend.
I will say that my son has had some great coaching and has improved greatly over the years at Express. His improvement is mostly due to a hand full of Express coaches and his work ethic with his stick skills.
Moving teams to find an A team is also very difficult.
4 kids now at West Point playing lacrosse were all on the B team together on Express in 7th grade. Things change keep working hard.
The whole AA, A, B thing is garbage. I've seen kids that were B players work hard switch teams and get on the A teams. Same for the the A player that doesn't work hard and get picked to go to B team. I think as parents we all place too much value on letters! My son was a B player and now plays A ball at a high level. Typically the coaching on the B teams is not even close to that of the A team. I know with Express who had 4 teams had 3 below average coaches and Chan team. I think they changed for the better putting on 2 teams out with high level talent and very good coaching!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A lot of B team detest on some of these threads. If a kid is brand new to travel and gets placed on a B team at 9 years old, that's a waste of money? A and B pay same amount and B team seems to be good coaching so far.
Curious as to what the general consensus is on when it becomes a waste. Immediately? If kid doesn't move up to A in a year or 2? Do most good B players need to move teams for a shot at A or do you see them moved up often?
Curious as to what the general consensus is on when it becomes a waste. Immediately? If kid doesn't move up to A in a year or 2? Do most good B players need to move teams for a shot at A or do you see them moved up often?
Sounds like your son is young. From our experience, not too many players move up. It does happen though and more likely the older they get, 8th grade and up.
B teams at Express is definitely a garbage shoot. Some great coaching some years, non-existent coaching other years. Unfortunately, most years they just don't keep the same coaching staff for the same B team. No continuity at all.
Don't accept a B team slot if Coach Chan says he will be the coach, total disaster. He does not have the patience to coach emerging players. He is all about his A teams. Eventually he will leave the B team high and dry.
As a B team family at Express, you need to be OK that the A team practices year round and gets indoor time over the winter for the same price as you pay. B teams rarely get extra practices, some years, you don't even get the tourneys you were promised.
The other issue with B teams at Express (and other clubs, I'm sure) is the team itself. Tryouts are a joke and no one gets cut. So it turns out that the bottom half of that B team has players that can't catch or throw the ball. The parents are just happy to be on the team and have no real interest in having their child improve. These families miss half of the practices but kids still play in tourneys. Disastrous during tourneys. Very frustrating for families that want the team and players to improve. I'm not saying win at all costs, I'm praying not to go 0-6 after a 5 hour drive to MD where the team goal differential is -50+. Rarely does Express put B teams in the proper tourneys so then there is a scramble to find less competitive tourneys for the team. Some years, it was week to week where we were going attend.
I will say that my son has had some great coaching and has improved greatly over the years at Express. His improvement is mostly due to a hand full of Express coaches and his work ethic with his stick skills.
Moving teams to find an A team is also very difficult.
Reality is you can find much better B teams outside the big organizations.
Better going to an organisation with only one team per age group whose team happens to be st B level. They end up more competitive and you pay much less.
Another problem with Express especially if CoachC is coaching the A team, they take double the amount of players for the A team from tryouts. Thus limiting any ability for the B team to field a decent team.
And if someone doesnt accept the B team slot, CoachC is more than willing to let you pay to go on the A team and practice but not actually play.
End result look for a good coach, but dont stay on the big organizations B teams. You are wasting your kids time. Let him enjoy playing lacrosse on a team where he has a chance to be competitive.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The whole AA, A, B thing is garbage. I've seen kids that were B players work hard switch teams and get on the A teams. Same for the the A player that doesn't work hard and get picked to go to B team. I think as parents we all place too much value on letters! My son was a B player and now plays A ball at a high level. Typically the coaching on the B teams is not even close to that of the A team. I know with Express who had 4 teams had 3 below average coaches and Chan team. I think they changed for the better putting on 2 teams out with high level talent and very good coaching!
That seems to be the new model now, focus on talent and not money. If you notice there are a lot less teams than there were a few years ago. Meaning each organization had 3 teams per age group not the case anymore.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The whole AA, A, B thing is garbage. I've seen kids that were B players work hard switch teams and get on the A teams. Same for the the A player that doesn't work hard and get picked to go to B team. I think as parents we all place too much value on letters! My son was a B player and now plays A ball at a high level. Typically the coaching on the B teams is not even close to that of the A team. I know with Express who had 4 teams had 3 below average coaches and Chan team. I think they changed for the better putting on 2 teams out with high level talent and very good coaching!
That seems to be the new model now, focus on talent and not money. If you notice there are a lot less teams than there were a few years ago. Meaning each organization had 3 teams per age group not the case anymore.
Not true. Express and the others are still doing it. Express just overloads there teams. And pretends they will split it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The whole AA, A, B thing is garbage. I've seen kids that were B players work hard switch teams and get on the A teams. Same for the the A player that doesn't work hard and get picked to go to B team. I think as parents we all place too much value on letters! My son was a B player and now plays A ball at a high level. Typically the coaching on the B teams is not even close to that of the A team. I know with Express who had 4 teams had 3 below average coaches and Chan team. I think they changed for the better putting on 2 teams out with high level talent and very good coaching!
That seems to be the new model now, focus on talent and not money. If you notice there are a lot less teams than there were a few years ago. Meaning each organization had 3 teams per age group not the case anymore.
Not true. Express and the others are still doing it. Express just overloads there teams. And pretends they will split it.
I know your kid does not play for Express! This year that is not the case. Chan team has 30 and CoachMor team has 28. As of now those are the numbers, not sure how it will look at the end of the season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The whole AA, A, B thing is garbage. I've seen kids that were B players work hard switch teams and get on the A teams. Same for the the A player that doesn't work hard and get picked to go to B team. I think as parents we all place too much value on letters! My son was a B player and now plays A ball at a high level. Typically the coaching on the B teams is not even close to that of the A team. I know with Express who had 4 teams had 3 below average coaches and Chan team. I think they changed for the better putting on 2 teams out with high level talent and very good coaching!
That seems to be the new model now, focus on talent and not money. If you notice there are a lot less teams than there were a few years ago. Meaning each organization had 3 teams per age group not the case anymore.
Not true. Express and the others are still doing it. Express just overloads there teams. And pretends they will split it.
I know your kid does not play for Express! This year that is not the case. Chan team has 30 and CoachMor team has 28. As of now those are the numbers, not sure how it will look at the end of the season.
First of all 28 and 30 is also way too many for one team.
2nd we are not just talking about one age bracket. Look at the other age brackets. Some have 40 to 50 kids on a team. And yes they say they will split them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The whole AA, A, B thing is garbage. I've seen kids that were B players work hard switch teams and get on the A teams. Same for the the A player that doesn't work hard and get picked to go to B team. I think as parents we all place too much value on letters! My son was a B player and now plays A ball at a high level. Typically the coaching on the B teams is not even close to that of the A team. I know with Express who had 4 teams had 3 below average coaches and Chan team. I think they changed for the better putting on 2 teams out with high level talent and very good coaching!
That seems to be the new model now, focus on talent and not money. If you notice there are a lot less teams than there were a few years ago. Meaning each organization had 3 teams per age group not the case anymore.
Not true. Express and the others are still doing it. Express just overloads there teams. And pretends they will split it.
I know your kid does not play for Express! This year that is not the case. Chan team has 30 and CoachMor team has 28. As of now those are the numbers, not sure how it will look at the end of the season.
I think once HS comes around, Chan has no choice but to thin out the crowd, the jig is up and he can't keep collecting the $$$$$ when all parents are asking about recruiting and playing time at showcases.
After spending $3000 per year for years, some kids are getting cut from high school teams. He has run out of excuses to tell parents. And still some players are not consistent at catching and throwing. Blame him 1st, parents 2nd and then the player.
Can we all stfu re the $ aspect of this? everything costs money.... people spend it as they see fit.
The problem is Express doesn't support their B teams. Only the A teams go to the very top events. They aren't recommending B team players for Showtime, etc.
It is important for parents of younger players to understand that if your kid is good, they need to be seen early and often. A lot of the recruiting lists and rankings are born out of evaluators seeing the same kids over and over from an early age. Those kids get written up, buzz is created and looks are given. But you have to be where the best teams are because that is where the college coaches go. It is not impossible from a B team, but it is really hard to go from there to being recruited by a top D1. Many go lesser DI, DII of DIII. If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten my kid off a B team and onto an A team earlier. It worked out for him in the end, but not before we watched lesser A team players get recruited first. College coaches were trying to learn my son's name in HS as compared to them having watched similar kids for 3-4 years by that point.
Others may disagree, but my experience is that if you are on an Express B team it is an uphill battle to get recruited at a top D1. You better be prepared to hit a ton of individual showcases and prospect days on your own.
It is important for parents of younger players to understand that if your kid is good, they need to be seen early and often. A lot of the recruiting lists and rankings are born out of evaluators seeing the same kids over and over from an early age. Those kids get written up, buzz is created and looks are given. But you have to be where the best teams are because that is where the college coaches go. It is not impossible from a B team, but it is really hard to go from there to being recruited by a top D1. Many go lesser DI, DII of DIII. If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten my kid off a B team and onto an A team earlier. It worked out for him in the end, but not before we watched lesser A team players get recruited first. College coaches were trying to learn my son's name in HS as compared to them having watched similar kids for 3-4 years by that point.
Others may disagree, but my experience is that if you are on an Express B team it is an uphill battle to get recruited at a top D1. You better be prepared to hit a ton of individual showcases and prospect days on your own.
The '28 team needs a lot of work...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we all stfu re the $ aspect of this? everything costs money.... people spend it as they see fit.
I have NO problem spending the money for my son, BUT its the value and experience you get for that money that is the issue at hand.
Don't charge B teams the same as A teams if you are not going to provide the same ( or even remotely close) coaching, indoor practices and experience.
Just give us what you said you would give us for the tuition we paid! Is that too much?
Some years, Express does not even bother to explain what you are actually getting for the money.
At Express, some years its worth the tuition and other years it was not worth the tryout fee.
Just our experience....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The problem is Express doesn't support their B teams. Only the A teams go to the very top events. They aren't recommending B team players for Showtime, etc.
It is important for parents of younger players to understand that if your kid is good, they need to be seen early and often. A lot of the recruiting lists and rankings are born out of evaluators seeing the same kids over and over from an early age. Those kids get written up, buzz is created and looks are given. But you have to be where the best teams are because that is where the college coaches go. It is not impossible from a B team, but it is really hard to go from there to being recruited by a top D1. Many go lesser DI, DII of DIII. If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten my kid off a B team and onto an A team earlier. It worked out for him in the end, but not before we watched lesser A team players get recruited first. College coaches were trying to learn my son's name in HS as compared to them having watched similar kids for 3-4 years by that point.
Others may disagree, but my experience is that if you are on an Express B team it is an uphill battle to get recruited at a top D1. You better be prepared to hit a ton of individual showcases and prospect days on your own.
It is important for parents of younger players to understand that if your kid is good, they need to be seen early and often. A lot of the recruiting lists and rankings are born out of evaluators seeing the same kids over and over from an early age. Those kids get written up, buzz is created and looks are given. But you have to be where the best teams are because that is where the college coaches go. It is not impossible from a B team, but it is really hard to go from there to being recruited by a top D1. Many go lesser DI, DII of DIII. If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten my kid off a B team and onto an A team earlier. It worked out for him in the end, but not before we watched lesser A team players get recruited first. College coaches were trying to learn my son's name in HS as compared to them having watched similar kids for 3-4 years by that point.
Others may disagree, but my experience is that if you are on an Express B team it is an uphill battle to get recruited at a top D1. You better be prepared to hit a ton of individual showcases and prospect days on your own.
Express B teams have no business playing at the top events. They get destroyed. Hence the problem with Coach Chan. He would have his top team with 40-50 great to good players but only play 20. That would leave the B team with only a handful of good players and some OK players. A B team with no FOGO or big scorer. How are they going to compete at a top event?
For whatever reason, Express directors put very little effort into Express's B,C and D teams. The saving grace for these teams is if the coach of the team was good and stepped up for the boys.
At least at 91 or Igloo, they fostered B teams into good teams that at least had a chance.
I fully understand. and that is BS..but i also think its failry well known that express is going to focus on teams that promote their brand. The A experience is the advertising money maker. I think this is all Buyer beware.
but to the people breaking down every try out..cost of helmet...travel... i mean....enough
but to the people breaking down every try out..cost of helmet...travel... i mean....enough
With the upcoming season possibly being washed out, Express will announce their tryouts for the 2020-2021 season very soon.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With the upcoming season possibly being washed out, Express will announce their tryouts for the 2020-2021 season very soon.
If things return to a new normal by Memorial Day, why would people expect a refund? Everyone will get practices and tourneys in. If things extend into June, ask then. The real sad thing is the HS season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If things return to a new normal by Memorial Day, why would people expect a refund? Everyone will get practices and tourneys in. If things extend into June, ask then. The real sad thing is the HS season.
Well Express postponed the 3rd payment which was the right thing to do.
I would expect some kind of refund if I paid for a spring season. Not sure as we are paying the HS rate at Express.
Even if all is back to normal, I doubt the summer season will stay the same. all clubs are at the mercy of the tourney organizers. The organizers are at the mercy of the venues. Toss in liability issues, insurance, rescheduled college and HS graduations......it is not looking good. Neither are prospect days. Total mess.
Once CoachC has the money, you will never get it back
Prediction - There won't be any summer tournaments. Organizers will soon start moving their events to the fall. There also won't be any tryouts or refunds. Teams will stay intact and you will get a partial credit towards next year's tuition.
Lot of kids will be missing from this fall tournaments then. Soccer and football season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lot of kids will be missing from this fall tournaments then. Soccer and football season.
no real lax player puts soccer ahead... soccer plays in spring/june as well. My son misses soccer games.
Real lax player. Hahaha Clown.
Real lax players play football!
They can afford partial refunds.....
They can afford partial refunds.....
Make sure to vote for your express teammates! God knows these parents need the ego boost.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Make sure to vote for your express teammates! God knows these parents need the ego boost.
Right! So ridiculous these constant contacts to vote for players.
Players grandparents and some parents are DEAD. Are they reaching out to families to see if they are OK?
Not every Express parent is uber wealthy. Terrible optics.
Zero info about the summer. Not even a "we are carefully watching the summer events" BS email.
I will vote as soon as Coach C at least says "Hi" or gives a nod the next time he walks by me as he goes over to hug a Manhasset dad and yucks it up!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Make sure to vote for your express teammates! God knows these parents need the ego boost.
Right! So ridiculous these constant contacts to vote for players.
Players grandparents and some parents are DEAD. Are they reaching out to families to see if they are OK?
Not every Express parent is uber wealthy. Terrible optics.
Zero info about the summer. Not even a "we are carefully watching the summer events" BS email.
I will vote as soon as Coach C at least says "Hi" or gives a nod the next time he walks by me as he goes over to hug a Manhasset dad and yucks it up!
These clubs dont even know your mailing address to send some kind of refund . Its a shady business that dont even take the time out and put a Portfolio folder together of the player , parents names , address, info about the kids . Nothing !! Just pay me pay me !!! Money money money . My PAL coaches even went out the day before easter and put about 15 plastic eggs on all the players front lawn with goodies inside .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Make sure to vote for your express teammates! God knows these parents need the ego boost.
Right! So ridiculous these constant contacts to vote for players.
Players grandparents and some parents are DEAD. Are they reaching out to families to see if they are OK?
Not every Express parent is uber wealthy. Terrible optics.
Zero info about the summer. Not even a "we are carefully watching the summer events" BS email.
I will vote as soon as Coach C at least says "Hi" or gives a nod the next time he walks by me as he goes over to hug a Manhasset dad and yucks it up!
Yeah, total disgrace, and these coaches work for another organized crime called the catholic church. Look how they handled all the priest abuses. Do you think they actually care about Express coaches?
Has anyone requested a refund and if so what was the response ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone requested a refund and if so what was the response ?
Of course no one can answer that question , ill answer it for you . The answer is prob 98% noooooooo. There is something with parents not ruffling the Feathers with the lacrosse clubs . I seen dads with businesses, plumbers , landscapers etc ... do stuff for these directors . Its ugly out there . Moms looking all sexy and hot all the time who knows what they would do . I detest every last second of it because in the end it all means absolutely not a dam thing . The % to play at a high level like D1 is very slim , Long island is not even the top breading ground anymore for lacrosse. Keep drinking the koolaid and telll yourself it is . Your battling with 40,50 k prep/academy a yr schools in Indiana, maryland , philly ,NJ Connecticut. N.C FL TX is also Recruiting meccas . So keep paying tour $4,000 a yr plus some since little johnny been in 3rd grade and get get a answer about some kind of partial refund . Oh yeah last call the team store is open go get your team gear for the parents !!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone requested a refund and if so what was the response ?
Of course no one can answer that question , ill answer it for you . The answer is prob 98% noooooooo. There is something with parents not ruffling the Feathers with the lacrosse clubs . I seen dads with businesses, plumbers , landscapers etc ... do stuff for these directors . Its ugly out there . Moms looking all sexy and hot all the time who knows what they would do . I detest every last second of it because in the end it all means absolutely not a dam thing . The % to play at a high level like D1 is very slim , Long island is not even the top breading ground anymore for lacrosse. Keep drinking the koolaid and telll yourself it is . Your battling with 40,50 k prep/academy a yr schools in Indiana, maryland , philly ,NJ Connecticut. N.C FL TX is also Recruiting meccas . So keep paying tour $4,000 a yr plus some since little johnny been in 3rd grade and get get a answer about some kind of partial refund . Oh yeah last call the team store is open go get your team gear for the parents !!!
The most famous word your missing is “The Hot Bed” of lacrosse !
Don't forget many families pay for A's too...around $600 to get an A...and they write it off as 'tutoring'.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Make sure to vote for your express teammates! God knows these parents need the ego boost.
Right! So ridiculous these constant contacts to vote for players.
Players grandparents and some parents are DEAD. Are they reaching out to families to see if they are OK?
Not every Express parent is uber wealthy. Terrible optics.
Zero info about the summer. Not even a "we are carefully watching the summer events" BS email.
I will vote as soon as Coach C at least says "Hi" or gives a nod the next time he walks by me as he goes over to hug a Manhasset dad and yucks it up!
Yeah, total disgrace, and these coaches work for another organized crime called the catholic church. Look how they handled all the priest abuses. Do you think they actually care about Express coaches?
Birds of a feather flock together.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone requested a refund and if so what was the response ?
Of course no one can answer that question , ill answer it for you . The answer is prob 98% noooooooo. There is something with parents not ruffling the Feathers with the lacrosse clubs . I seen dads with businesses, plumbers , landscapers etc ... do stuff for these directors . Its ugly out there . Moms looking all sexy and hot all the time who knows what they would do . I detest every last second of it because in the end it all means absolutely not a dam thing . The % to play at a high level like D1 is very slim , Long island is not even the top breading ground anymore for lacrosse. Keep drinking the koolaid and telll yourself it is . Your battling with 40,50 k prep/academy a yr schools in Indiana, maryland , philly ,NJ Connecticut. N.C FL TX is also Recruiting meccas . So keep paying tour $4,000 a yr plus some since little johnny been in 3rd grade and get get a answer about some kind of partial refund . Oh yeah last call the team store is open go get your team gear for the parents !!!
Wow ! I am becoming a Lacrosse Director..Free Plumbing ,Free landscaping along with all the Mom's I can handle for fun times.
How do apply !
6-8 weeks away from summer tourneys, what is the word ?
Can't see getting much practices in before, even if they happen.
Can't see getting much practices in before, even if they happen.
detest to give my opinion, because somebody pandemic expert will say get a clue...summer is done, enjoy your family, be thankful, get a life outside youth sports, etc, etc. I believe there will be a summer lax season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
detest to give my opinion, because somebody pandemic expert will say get a clue...summer is done, enjoy your family, be thankful, get a life outside youth sports, etc, etc. I believe there will be a summer lax season.
Well get a life no chance and where are playing ? You going out of state? is out of state coming here ? Hotels , restaurants etc... tell your program cough up money we are done . You wont ...,,,I should put down the booze and learn to write a coherent post.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
detest to give my opinion, because somebody pandemic expert will say get a clue...summer is done, enjoy your family, be thankful, get a life outside youth sports, etc, etc. I believe there will be a summer lax season.
Well get a life no chance and where are playing ? You going out of state? is out of state coming here ? Hotels , restaurants etc... tell your program cough up money we are done . You wont ...,,,I should put down the booze and learn to write a coherent post.
This person should inquire if BOCES offers night courses relating to basic grammar school sentence structure. Until then, pick up a few Dr. Seuss books, practice reading until classes begin.
Does anyone have any insights regarding the 4th upcoming payment? Should i pay it?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any insights regarding the 4th upcoming payment? Should i pay it?
That's not the real question, can you not pay it?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any insights regarding the 4th upcoming payment? Should i pay it?
That's not the real question, can you not pay it?
What's your point?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
detest to give my opinion, because somebody pandemic expert will say get a clue...summer is done, enjoy your family, be thankful, get a life outside youth sports, etc, etc. I believe there will be a summer lax season.
Well get a life no chance and where are playing ? You going out of state? is out of state coming here ? Hotels , restaurants etc... tell your program cough up money we are done . You wont ...,,,I should put down the booze and learn to write a coherent post.
This person should inquire if BOCES offers night courses relating to basic grammar school sentence structure. Until then, pick up a few Dr. Seuss books, practice reading until classes begin.
I think it was meant as a joke. I want lax and I am proud to admit it. The kids want lax. The clubs want lax. The refs want lax. Just everyone admit it. If you take the time to post and/or read posts, you want lax, so stop it. Social distance lax 2020, lol. No tailgates, one parent per kid, no plopping folding chairs on the midline as spectators must stand (gosh) 6 feet apart.
Listen, NEW YORK is wearing the scarlet COVID letter right now. No way Maryland and other locals want us. Just sayin...
CoachC reminds me of the main guy in the netflix sitcom Tiger King
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Listen, NEW YORK is wearing the scarlet COVID letter right now. No way Maryland and other locals want us. Just sayin...
Good don’t need them. Enough competition in the tri state. My guess (and a guess) NLF in Umass is the only travel tourney. The rest will be all local and probably all rescheduled throughout the summer. That’s my guess, if lax returns, I would gauge it by when you could return to a movie theater, organized sports will resume. My guess is also June is not likely. July is a chance.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CoachC reminds me of the main guy in the netflix sitcom Tiger King
yeah, you're right!
My guess is summer season is July maybe early August with one day tournaments and lots of 1 v 1 scrimmages w 1 parent only. Then probably no tryouts in August and keep same teams for next season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Listen, NEW YORK is wearing the scarlet COVID letter right now. No way Maryland and other locals want us. Just sayin...
Good don’t need them. Enough competition in the tri state. My guess (and a guess) NLF in Umass is the only travel tourney. The rest will be all local and probably all rescheduled throughout the summer. That’s my guess, if lax returns, I would gauge it by when you could return to a movie theater, organized sports will resume. My guess is also June is not likely. July is a chance.
There is not going to be lax this summer. Let’s all hope for the fall.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Listen, NEW YORK is wearing the scarlet COVID letter right now. No way Maryland and other locals want us. Just sayin...
Good don’t need them. Enough competition in the tri state. My guess (and a guess) NLF in Umass is the only travel tourney. The rest will be all local and probably all rescheduled throughout the summer. That’s my guess, if lax returns, I would gauge it by when you could return to a movie theater, organized sports will resume. My guess is also June is not likely. July is a chance.
Movie theaters is not a good gauge at all, they are businesses who can't wait to make money again. Travel lax is a business also BUT it needs a place to practice and play. I can't see towns, school districts or colleges approving use of their fields. They have too much on their own plates to even discuss it. At least 4 colleges have cancelled camps and prospect days. I hope it happens but it does not look good. Express should delay final payment again.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Listen, NEW YORK is wearing the scarlet COVID letter right now. No way Maryland and other locals want us. Just sayin...
Good don’t need them. Enough competition in the tri state. My guess (and a guess) NLF in Umass is the only travel tourney. The rest will be all local and probably all rescheduled throughout the summer. That’s my guess, if lax returns, I would gauge it by when you could return to a movie theater, organized sports will resume. My guess is also June is not likely. July is a chance.
Movie theaters is not a good gauge at all, they are businesses who can't wait to make money again. Travel lax is a business also BUT it needs a place to practice and play. I can't see towns, school districts or colleges approving use of their fields. They have too much on their own plates to even discuss it. At least 4 colleges have cancelled camps and prospect days. I hope it happens but it does not look good. Express should delay final payment again.
So if a county beach opens, I would think that includes county fields and parks. I agree with schools, they may be more restrictive. But who knows. Everyone keeps saying a slow reopening, and it will, but once it starts and the data shows no signs of increase, it will accelerate. Honestly, let’s just be hopeful that happens and we don’t regress. I am guessing we will be on the fields by late June. But just my opinion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Listen, NEW YORK is wearing the scarlet COVID letter right now. No way Maryland and other locals want us. Just sayin...
Good don’t need them. Enough competition in the tri state. My guess (and a guess) NLF in Umass is the only travel tourney. The rest will be all local and probably all rescheduled throughout the summer. That’s my guess, if lax returns, I would gauge it by when you could return to a movie theater, organized sports will resume. My guess is also June is not likely. July is a chance.
Movie theaters is not a good gauge at all, they are businesses who can't wait to make money again. Travel lax is a business also BUT it needs a place to practice and play. I can't see towns, school districts or colleges approving use of their fields. They have too much on their own plates to even discuss it. At least 4 colleges have cancelled camps and prospect days. I hope it happens but it does not look good. Express should delay final payment again.
So if a county beach opens, I would think that includes county fields and parks. I agree with schools, they may be more restrictive. But who knows. Everyone keeps saying a slow reopening, and it will, but once it starts and the data shows no signs of increase, it will accelerate. Honestly, let’s just be hopeful that happens and we don’t regress. I am guessing we will be on the fields by late June. But just my opinion.
I think you a wrong, hope you are right. Lets see what Lord Cuomo says today about schools reopen. If they stay shut for the school year, no way schools will open fields this summer. Plus these field may be the sed for postponed graduations.
i don't think we're getting any refunds but not sure I can stomach a 4th intstallment for nothing....and no new helmets or bags.
So delightful to wake up to an auto generated email letting me know my last payment is due.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So delightful to wake up to an auto generated email letting me know my last payment is due.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
I emailed express this morning to inquire what the final payment covers. I didn't receive any reply back. If Express can't answer a simple two sentence email, they don't deserve payment.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So delightful to wake up to an auto generated email letting me know my last payment is due.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
Yup just bad optics. They need to address this last payment as soon as possible.
7 weeks in and now they do a food drive? I guess better than nothing.
ZERO info on how to help to get recruited by colleges in light for all that is going on. ZERO tips on what to do.
Over $3,000 for HS aged player, and all we may get was a Fall season and 80% of a uniform? Watch Coach C toss together a few play days for the boys and call it even!
If they are looking for families to support them, they should have fostered a better relationship with families from the start. To the club its been always about the money and now the families are saying the same thing.
Hope they do the right thing!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So delightful to wake up to an auto generated email letting me know my last payment is due.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
I emailed express this morning to inquire what the final payment covers. I didn't receive any reply back. If Express can't answer a simple two sentence email, they don't deserve payment.
Back of the envelope type math..... this last payment only for Express could easily total $500,000- $900,000!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So delightful to wake up to an auto generated email letting me know my last payment is due.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
Yup just bad optics. They need to address this last payment as soon as possible.
7 weeks in and now they do a food drive? I guess better than nothing.
ZERO info on how to help to get recruited by colleges in light for all that is going on. ZERO tips on what to do.
Over $3,000 for HS aged player, and all we may get was a Fall season and 80% of a uniform? Watch Coach C toss together a few play days for the boys and call it even!
If they are looking for families to support them, they should have fostered a better relationship with families from the start. To the club its been always about the money and now the families are saying the same thing.
Hope they do the right thing!
I followed up my email with a voice message, insisting they (Express) send me something in writing what we will receive in return for the final payment by close of business Monday. If not, I will not release final payment. It's only business, nothing personal.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So delightful to wake up to an auto generated email letting me know my last payment is due.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
Yup just bad optics. They need to address this last payment as soon as possible.
7 weeks in and now they do a food drive? I guess better than nothing.
ZERO info on how to help to get recruited by colleges in light for all that is going on. ZERO tips on what to do.
Over $3,000 for HS aged player, and all we may get was a Fall season and 80% of a uniform? Watch Coach C toss together a few play days for the boys and call it even!
If they are looking for families to support them, they should have fostered a better relationship with families from the start. To the club its been always about the money and now the families are saying the same thing.
Hope they do the right thing!
I followed up my email with a voice message, insisting they (Express) send me something in writing what we will receive in return for the final payment by close of business Monday. If not, I will not release final payment. It's only business, nothing personal.
Curious as to how you're going about that. Are you contacting your credit card directly?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So delightful to wake up to an auto generated email letting me know my last payment is due.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
Yup just bad optics. They need to address this last payment as soon as possible.
7 weeks in and now they do a food drive? I guess better than nothing.
ZERO info on how to help to get recruited by colleges in light for all that is going on. ZERO tips on what to do.
Over $3,000 for HS aged player, and all we may get was a Fall season and 80% of a uniform? Watch Coach C toss together a few play days for the boys and call it even!
If they are looking for families to support them, they should have fostered a better relationship with families from the start. To the club its been always about the money and now the families are saying the same thing.
Hope they do the right thing!
I followed up my email with a voice message, insisting they (Express) send me something in writing what we will receive in return for the final payment by close of business Monday. If not, I will not release final payment. It's only business, nothing personal.
Curious as to how you're going about that. Are you contacting your credit card directly?
If you represent someone from Express, you will not receive payment for a product not received. Contacted AMEX this morning, explained the situation and a hold was placed on the payment. AMEX stands behind their clients.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So delightful to wake up to an auto generated email letting me know my last payment is due.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
Yup just bad optics. They need to address this last payment as soon as possible.
7 weeks in and now they do a food drive? I guess better than nothing.
ZERO info on how to help to get recruited by colleges in light for all that is going on. ZERO tips on what to do.
Over $3,000 for HS aged player, and all we may get was a Fall season and 80% of a uniform? Watch Coach C toss together a few play days for the boys and call it even!
If they are looking for families to support them, they should have fostered a better relationship with families from the start. To the club its been always about the money and now the families are saying the same thing.
Hope they do the right thing!
I followed up my email with a voice message, insisting they (Express) send me something in writing what we will receive in return for the final payment by close of business Monday. If not, I will not release final payment. It's only business, nothing personal.
Curious as to how you're going about that. Are you contacting your credit card directly?
Call your card in as missing, they will issue new number and now you are in the driver’s seat!
Express has been on shaky ground for years why so surprised!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has been on shaky ground for years why so surprised!
I'll tell you one thing, this organization isn't getting another dime from me. Current events 101; Schools are closed for the year, people are still getting sick, 6 million folks unemployed, and the list goes on and on. Now, how in the world does this guy think people are going to fork over a few hundred for something that isn't going to take place. So, he's saying, screw your family, just give me your money, give it to me because I am who I am. Don't think so. Mr. C, you're a NON-ESSENTIAL, ACCEPT REALITY! Should of kept your cleaning business afloat.
Hahahahaha wake up if they take last payment or refund . Thats goes with all clubs . It really comes down to it we are the suckers . Call your credit card company . I did got payment back .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahahahaha wake up if they take last payment or refund . Thats goes with all clubs . It really comes down to it we are the suckers . Call your credit card company . I did got payment back .
Are you still trolling these forums with in-comprehensible sentence structure. The unfortunate circumstances which we ALL are going through doesn't mean we are suckers. People paid their hard earned money in good faith, in return, expected to receive a service. Plan and simple.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So delightful to wake up to an auto generated email letting me know my last payment is due.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
I think I enjoyed this more than the email asking for votes for their alumni.
Other than the last payment originally being delayed, it has been radio silence.
If that last payment isn't canceled, they can kiss my butt. I put a hold on a potential next payment by contacting my credit card company direct. Just incase...
May 4th......... deafing silence from LIE......
Most summer tournaments already cancelled clubs are figuring out plan
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Most summer tournaments already cancelled clubs are figuring out plan
They have had 7 weeks to figure out a plan......its not like they have a day job or are on the field coaching right now. They are just greedy and want to control money they didn't work for.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Most summer tournaments already cancelled clubs are figuring out plan
That's all well and good. But tell your clients that's what you're doing. Don't go radio silent on everyone.
Don't ignore numerous emails. Yet continue to post on social media. Someone is working.
Communicate something to the parents who have supported your organization all these years.
A simple, "hey folks, I know you're waiting for information, you received our payment reminder, we're working on it"
SOMETHING
It's embarrassing.
Crickets from the top.
Multiple e-mails sent.
Anyone have CoachC's number??
Multiple e-mails sent.
Anyone have CoachC's number??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crickets from the top.
Multiple e-mails sent.
Anyone have CoachC's number??
Multiple e-mails sent.
Anyone have CoachC's number??
Oh stop, if you are really with LIE and really want to call CoachC, you have his number. It's all over the website or your coach will gladly provide. You could say a ton about the man, but he's not hiding from anybody.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crickets from the top.
Multiple e-mails sent.
Anyone have CoachC's number??
Multiple e-mails sent.
Anyone have CoachC's number??
Oh stop, if you are really with LIE and really want to call CoachC, you have his number. It's all over the website or your coach will gladly provide. You could say a ton about the man, but he's not hiding from anybody.
I agree. Stop your whining!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crickets from the top.
Multiple e-mails sent.
Anyone have CoachC's number??
Multiple e-mails sent.
Anyone have CoachC's number??
Oh stop, if you are really with LIE and really want to call CoachC, you have his number. It's all over the website or your coach will gladly provide. You could say a ton about the man, but he's not hiding from anybody.
I agree. Stop your whining!
Whining? He is 100% correct.
Not everyone has CoachC's # but you can easily get it.
He does not hide because he is great at blowing smoke.
He is a disappointing fellow.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crickets from the top.
Multiple e-mails sent.
Anyone have CoachC's number??
Multiple e-mails sent.
Anyone have CoachC's number??
Oh stop, if you are really with LIE and really want to call CoachC, you have his number. It's all over the website or your coach will gladly provide. You could say a ton about the man, but he's not hiding from anybody.
I agree. Stop your whining!
Whining? He is 100% correct.
Not everyone has CoachC's # but you can easily get it.
He does not hide because he is great at blowing smoke.
He is a disappointing fellow.
Stop it. If you were Express you would have it. His number is at the bottom of the team invite and his email. So go back to your club and stop the nonsense. Summer will happen I believe. Just waiting for our governor to announce reopening plans on May 15th.
Bitches please. I got your money and you need to stay in check. CoachC
If you don't want your kid cut next year, just consider your summer payments a donation to the Catholic School Coaches Covid 19 fund. MC will be boating all summer on everyones summer tuition payments.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crickets from the top.
Multiple e-mails sent.
Anyone have CoachC's number??
Multiple e-mails sent.
Anyone have CoachC's number??
Oh stop, if you are really with LIE and really want to call CoachC, you have his number. It's all over the website or your coach will gladly provide. You could say a ton about the man, but he's not hiding from anybody.
I agree. Stop your whining!
It was a joke.
You guys are wound tighter than your wive's spanx
i don't know about the rest of you... but are we all really at the mercy of these clubs?
Well you got your email today, saying that things will be up and running as soon as they get the green light? What a bunch of bull[ChillLaxin] that is! What about the entire fall that was basically missed ? I will not make my last payment ever and I don't give 2 $hits who is mad about it! They have enough money and my last 750 (i mean 780 they have the balls to put a $30 processing fee)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Update e-mail just delivered to all Express families
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well you got your email today, saying that things will be up and running as soon as they get the green light? What a bunch of bull[ChillLaxin] that is! What about the entire fall that was basically missed ? I will not make my last payment ever and I don't give 2 $hits who is mad about it! They have enough money and my last 750 (i mean 780 they have the balls to put a $30 processing fee)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've heard some things about MC, but I'll tell you one thing, he won't be receiving my $780! "...as soon as they get the green light?" I will not allow this guy to con me out of my hard earned money. We all have come across many unscrupulous people in our lives, but this guy is number 1 on the list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Update e-mail just delivered to all Express families
slimebags
Ridiculous email that they sent. Pay us now and we'll determine at the end of the summer what credits to give back to the players.... How about delaying the payment another month and see what the tournament season will look like! If there even is a season. Really bad on the part of LIE. I certainly won't be giving them that last payment and will be moving on from this program next year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well you got your email today, saying that things will be up and running as soon as they get the green light? What a bunch of bull[ChillLaxin] that is! What about the entire fall that was basically missed ? I will not make my last payment ever and I don't give 2 $hits who is mad about it! They have enough money and my last 750 (i mean 780 they have the balls to put a $30 processing fee)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same...........August is football.
We have field space, just waiting for the green light? Ahhhh, so you have nothing.
Get ready for Coach C famous 3 team playday= a 2 day tourney!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ridiculous email that they sent. Pay us now and we'll determine at the end of the summer what credits to give back to the players.... How about delaying the payment another month and see what the tournament season will look like! If there even is a season. Really bad on the part of LIE. I certainly won't be giving them that last payment and will be moving on from this program next year.
How in the world does this guy expect me to pay him $780 now, with everything shut down. What school district, university campus will allow thousands of people to gather for a kids game. On top of that, He'll determine how much of my money (credit) will be returned to me! I can see if, it were $200 bucks, but $780? No way. Just think, $780 (x) times the number of kids that belong to Express. This owner is NUTS! Scammer!
How do we fight this. RIDICULOUS and DISGUSTING! There's no way anyone should have to pay anything.
Contacted my CC company. They’re not getting another dime from me. I will be the one to decide about my money. Literally ZERO sports are being played and these clowns believe they’re entitled to more money?? Nice try.
HAS ANYONE RESPONDED TO THE EMAIL? MY SON IS 9TH GRADE. IM PAYING $3000 FOR 6 FALL PRACTICES AND 3 TOURNAMENTS?
Unthinkable. Not getting another penny. Express should rethink what they just did. The abuse accepted over the years has to stop. I mean this Guy MC is the living devil.
I hope they were 6 good practices
They will offer virtual wallball workouts to try to justify.
Did they really ask for additional money for summer ?
tons of talk not a lot of action (by myself included)...so what's next? we basically paid for spring, and there were 2 practices. So what now?
Hope club gives some refund. If returning player maybe a credit. That’s the what now. If they don’t do the right the customer. Go to another club next season. Not much more to say on the topic.
I'm sure they monitor this site and forum so they are seeing the comments. Probably not MC but one of his minions. They just don't care. And it's not just express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
tons of talk not a lot of action (by myself included)...so what's next? we basically paid for spring, and there were 2 practices. So what now?
You had 2 practices in Spring? Our team had nothing. Not an email (besides the payment email), since November.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did they really ask for additional money for summer ?
Would love to see the recent email , please post !!
Does Express or an affiliate of Express have a stake in BOC ?
What’s the hold up NO summer people should get refund
Refund. What refund ? They are looking for the final payment. Tryout info and fees for next year is coming out soon.
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
Here is the email:
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Nassau County Small Claims Court - $10-20 to file a claim against a business for up to $5000
Suffolk County Small Claims Court - $20 to file a claim against a business for up to $5000
Hope it does not come to this........ball is in their court.
If they take the money they must deliver on what they promised. I hope they thought this through.
Suffolk County Small Claims Court - $20 to file a claim against a business for up to $5000
Hope it does not come to this........ball is in their court.
If they take the money they must deliver on what they promised. I hope they thought this through.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nassau County Small Claims Court - $10-20 to file a claim against a business for up to $5000
Suffolk County Small Claims Court - $20 to file a claim against a business for up to $5000
Hope it does not come to this........ball is in their court.
If they take the money they must deliver on what they promised. I hope they thought this through.
Suffolk County Small Claims Court - $20 to file a claim against a business for up to $5000
Hope it does not come to this........ball is in their court.
If they take the money they must deliver on what they promised. I hope they thought this through.
Could be a class action suit if the do not deliver and try to keep money!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
JOKE! We've been telling you for years that you're on a pipe dream thinking that paying all that money for Express was going to get your kid anywhere.
Can’t wait to see our schedules next week Coach C!
Next week, right? Just like you indicated in your email.
Next week, right? Just like you indicated in your email.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
JOKE! We've been telling you for years that you're on a pipe dream thinking that paying all that money for Express was going to get your kid anywhere.
It did for us.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
JOKE! We've been telling you for years that you're on a pipe dream thinking that paying all that money for Express was going to get your kid anywhere.
It did for us.
It got your kid into Onandaga CC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here is the email:
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
What if you don't want to risk yourself or your kid getting coronavirus over the next 3-5 months? Can we say we are done for this year and get a credit. Not sure if you noticed but every other sport, school etc is shut down for the forseeable future. I'm guessing you have no testing plan setup so every kid and parent that will be at the field is COVID free. No hard feelings and will gladly be back when its safe but we have paid too much money to settle for virtual training. I have mobile devices that have tons of youtube videos already.
What would you like Express to say ? Have to choice to put that out. Whats other big club’s saying ?
Bet know of you will call him.
Bet know of you will call him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here is the email:
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
What if you don't want to risk yourself or your kid getting coronavirus over the next 3-5 months? Can we say we are done for this year and get a credit. Not sure if you noticed but every other sport, school etc is shut down for the forseeable future. I'm guessing you have no testing plan setup so every kid and parent that will be at the field is COVID free. No hard feelings and will gladly be back when its safe but we have paid too much money to settle for virtual training. I have mobile devices that have tons of youtube videos already.
Yeah this all sound great BUT if all the PRO teams are cancelled and having games with NO fans what makes EXPRESS think that any tournament with thousands of people is going to be safe? ITS NOT !
They may not have HS sports in the Fall but these clowns think they are going to play summer lacrosse. Its laughable.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
JOKE! We've been telling you for years that you're on a pipe dream thinking that paying all that money for Express was going to get your kid anywhere.
It did for us.
It got your kid into Onandaga CC[/quote]
It did for us as well. Committed D1 but almost went NESCAC. Sometimes teaching and training comes with a lot of unspoken lessons that were invaluable and Express does it like no other program.
We realized early on the reality of cronyism, politics, money grabs, pay to play, backstabbers, mother hens, holdback-work-arounds in NY state (even for A+ students).
So after three years of my son schooling all the 'chosen ones' we left the organization because we were pushed down by the 'chosen' families. The next three years were great with another travel team and we got all the looks we needed.
Get out while you can.
I’ve been around the express program for many years with multiple children. I think Coach C and his program is one of the best. Coach C and his great staff have developed many kids to become great players that go on to play college ball. That’s a proven fact. During these extremely difficult financial times we are all facing, I think Coach C handled this last installment payment terrible and believe it will come back to haunt him. The fact he chose to charge families instead of deferring the final payment another month was a poor decision. The 3rd installment was paid back in Feb and NO service was provided for the spring. Why not defer the final payment and continue to monitor the situation? It’s pure greed and it’s a shame. We are all in this fight together. Banks, credit card companies, landlords, etc are all working with families and showing relief during these times. It was a bad business decision made by Coach C and it will leave a bad taste with everyone.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
JOKE! We've been telling you for years that you're on a pipe dream thinking that paying all that money for Express was going to get your kid anywhere.
It did for us.
It got your kid into Onandaga CC
It did for us as well. Committed D1 but almost went NESCAC. Sometimes teaching and training comes with a lot of unspoken lessons that were invaluable and Express does it like no other program.
We realized early on the reality of cronyism, politics, money grabs, pay to play, backstabbers, mother hens, holdback-work-arounds in NY state (even for A+ students).
So after three years of my son schooling all the 'chosen ones' we left the organization because we were pushed down by the 'chosen' families. The next three years were great with another travel team and we got all the looks we needed.
Get out while you can. [/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
EXPRESS UPDATE
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
Express is finalizing our summer plans! We have practice fields lined up and are just awaiting the official green light to take the fields again!
Overall the Summer Season is still scheduled albeit with many amended event dates, including a push out of the season into August. We anticipate the amended schedules to be finalized by next week. In addition, we are working with other area Clubs to arrange games locally to ensure competitive opportunities limiting the need for travel and hotels.
In order to help the boys prepare for the season we will be sending out a virtual spring practice schedule. This will include online skill and position workouts with instruction by The Express and college coaches.
While we are moving forward under the assumption that all teams will have a full summer schedule, we realistically understand each team's outcome may be unique. Therefore, at the end of the season we will examine each team's actual summer outcome and determine the need for credits for each team.
We recognize this is a stressful time for all. We are working hard to make summer lacrosse happen. In addition, we are working to ensure the boys stay positive and motivated with the anticipation of coming together in person soon.
One Additional Note for High School Teams!
Event organizers have agreed that all games will be professionally filmed. Games films will be available for distribution to college coaches.
Sincerely,
EXPRESS DIRECTORS
Mike CoachC, Jack CoachMor, Mike CoachS, Keith Wieczorek
JOKE! We've been telling you for years that you're on a pipe dream thinking that paying all that money for Express was going to get your kid anywhere.
It did for us.
It got your kid into Onandaga CC
It did for us as well. Committed D1 but almost went NESCAC. Sometimes teaching and training comes with a lot of unspoken lessons that were invaluable and Express does it like no other program.
We realized early on the reality of cronyism, politics, money grabs, pay to play, backstabbers, mother hens, holdback-work-arounds in NY state (even for A+ students).
So after three years of my son schooling all the 'chosen ones' we left the organization because we were pushed down by the 'chosen' families. The next three years were great with another travel team and we got all the looks we needed.
Get out while you can. [/quote]
Nope, Not Onandaga and more than likely a step up from you. I can only imagine that the team celebrated wildly when you decided to leave. I know I would have. Good luck to you my friend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve been around the express program for many years with multiple children. I think Coach C and his program is one of the best. Coach C and his great staff have developed many kids to become great players that go on to play college ball. That’s a proven fact. During these extremely difficult financial times we are all facing, I think Coach C handled this last installment payment terrible and believe it will come back to haunt him. The fact he chose to charge families instead of deferring the final payment another month was a poor decision. The 3rd installment was paid back in Feb and NO service was provided for the spring. Why not defer the final payment and continue to monitor the situation? It’s pure greed and it’s a shame. We are all in this fight together. Banks, credit card companies, landlords, etc are all working with families and showing relief during these times. It was a bad business decision made by Coach C and it will leave a bad taste with everyone.
PERFECTLY SAID
They gave a big Door_Open_And U to all the families that have been struggling these past few months. Jobs lost, struggling to get food at grocery stores and being sure that their children get adjusted to online learning.
There was no reason at all they could defer this final payment until they actually know if/when lacrosse will be played again.
The directors have their heads up their bungs if they think they will have a "schedule finalized next week".
What they did was wrong and it will certainly hurt their program in the future. MANY will turn against them, me included.
There was no reason at all they could defer this final payment until they actually know if/when lacrosse will be played again.
The directors have their heads up their bungs if they think they will have a "schedule finalized next week".
What they did was wrong and it will certainly hurt their program in the future. MANY will turn against them, me included.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve been around the express program for many years with multiple children. I think Coach C and his program is one of the best. Coach C and his great staff have developed many kids to become great players that go on to play college ball. That’s a proven fact. During these extremely difficult financial times we are all facing, I think Coach C handled this last installment payment terrible and believe it will come back to haunt him. The fact he chose to charge families instead of deferring the final payment another month was a poor decision. The 3rd installment was paid back in Feb and NO service was provided for the spring. Why not defer the final payment and continue to monitor the situation? It’s pure greed and it’s a shame. We are all in this fight together. Banks, credit card companies, landlords, etc are all working with families and showing relief during these times. It was a bad business decision made by Coach C and it will leave a bad taste with everyone.
PERFECTLY SAID
Pretty close to perfect. Sure, Coach C has a great program, for the A teams he is interested in. 100% garbage shoot after that. Had some great years and coach’s on B teams and have had total disasters other years. Coach C is all about the $$$, look at the back 2/3rds of his 45+ rosters! He will be eating all these credit card fees if I need a refund. No credit bs for next year.....I’m not a bank! He better come through, game on.
Start contacting next Friday if you don’t get a schedule.
North did exactly the same. Same letter too.
Sounds like we'll see a lot of stuff popping up on tourney machine for Express next week! Hahahahah won't hold my breath. Can't wait to hear about your summer schedules
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve been around the express program for many years with multiple children. I think Coach C and his program is one of the best. Coach C and his great staff have developed many kids to become great players that go on to play college ball. That’s a proven fact. During these extremely difficult financial times we are all facing, I think Coach C handled this last installment payment terrible and believe it will come back to haunt him. The fact he chose to charge families instead of deferring the final payment another month was a poor decision. The 3rd installment was paid back in Feb and NO service was provided for the spring. Why not defer the final payment and continue to monitor the situation? It’s pure greed and it’s a shame. We are all in this fight together. Banks, credit card companies, landlords, etc are all working with families and showing relief during these times. It was a bad business decision made by Coach C and it will leave a bad taste with everyone.
PERFECTLY SAID
Pretty close to perfect. Sure, Coach C has a great program, for the A teams he is interested in. 100% garbage shoot after that. Had some great years and coach’s on B teams and have had total disasters other years. Coach C is all about the $$$, look at the back 2/3rds of his 45+ rosters! He will be eating all these credit card fees if I need a refund. No credit bs for next year.....I’m not a bank! He better come through, game on.
Start contacting next Friday if you don’t get a schedule.
Bad look for Express. Many credit companies sent notifications saying they would work with you during this time of crisis. I even received a little refund from my auto insurance company, although it wasn't much, it was the gesture that mattered. additionally, the IRS pushed their deadline to July 15. So, what I'm asking, how I the world would any travel team charge fees starting in March of this year. Express isn't the only one, many others did the same. Face it people, it's over for the year, move on. Make sure you don't pay these club owners, order a nice take out spread for Mothers Day and enjoy the family!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They gave a big Door_Open_And U to all the families that have been struggling these past few months. Jobs lost, struggling to get food at grocery stores and being sure that their children get adjusted to online learning.
There was no reason at all they could defer this final payment until they actually know if/when lacrosse will be played again.
The directors have their heads up their bungs if they think they will have a "schedule finalized next week".
What they did was wrong and it will certainly hurt their program in the future. MANY will turn against them, me included.
There was no reason at all they could defer this final payment until they actually know if/when lacrosse will be played again.
The directors have their heads up their bungs if they think they will have a "schedule finalized next week".
What they did was wrong and it will certainly hurt their program in the future. MANY will turn against them, me included.
When was there final payment and they are still asking for it ?
Looks like Express is taking the beating this week. They can't be the only organization displaying there true colors(greed)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They gave a big Door_Open_And U to all the families that have been struggling these past few months. Jobs lost, struggling to get food at grocery stores and being sure that their children get adjusted to online learning.
There was no reason at all they could defer this final payment until they actually know if/when lacrosse will be played again.
The directors have their heads up their bungs if they think they will have a "schedule finalized next week".
What they did was wrong and it will certainly hurt their program in the future. MANY will turn against them, me included.
There was no reason at all they could defer this final payment until they actually know if/when lacrosse will be played again.
The directors have their heads up their bungs if they think they will have a "schedule finalized next week".
What they did was wrong and it will certainly hurt their program in the future. MANY will turn against them, me included.
When was there final payment and they are still asking for it ?
The final payment was yesterday and YES they took everyones money. Basically theft of services.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They gave a big Door_Open_And U to all the families that have been struggling these past few months. Jobs lost, struggling to get food at grocery stores and being sure that their children get adjusted to online learning.
There was no reason at all they could defer this final payment until they actually know if/when lacrosse will be played again.
The directors have their heads up their bungs if they think they will have a "schedule finalized next week".
What they did was wrong and it will certainly hurt their program in the future. MANY will turn against them, me included.
There was no reason at all they could defer this final payment until they actually know if/when lacrosse will be played again.
The directors have their heads up their bungs if they think they will have a "schedule finalized next week".
What they did was wrong and it will certainly hurt their program in the future. MANY will turn against them, me included.
When was there final payment and they are still asking for it ?
The final payment was yesterday and YES they took everyones money. Basically theft of services.
I notified my credit card company to inform they what was happening. My card was then removed from the Express portal. What they did yesterday wasn't right at all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They gave a big Door_Open_And U to all the families that have been struggling these past few months. Jobs lost, struggling to get food at grocery stores and being sure that their children get adjusted to online learning.
There was no reason at all they could defer this final payment until they actually know if/when lacrosse will be played again.
The directors have their heads up their bungs if they think they will have a "schedule finalized next week".
What they did was wrong and it will certainly hurt their program in the future. MANY will turn against them, me included.
There was no reason at all they could defer this final payment until they actually know if/when lacrosse will be played again.
The directors have their heads up their bungs if they think they will have a "schedule finalized next week".
What they did was wrong and it will certainly hurt their program in the future. MANY will turn against them, me included.
When was there final payment and they are still asking for it ?
The final payment was yesterday and YES they took everyones money. Basically theft of services.
Not here to start any trouble but that is just unbelievable that they did something like that . If my landscaper stop doing a service the past 2 months im not paying him . If my oil charged me home heating but never delivered oil im not paying him. What has Express done or if this is a future payment to have the right to take a payment ?? Serious folks someone has to be done with all these clubs i been saying it for awhile . So sad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They gave a big Door_Open_And U to all the families that have been struggling these past few months. Jobs lost, struggling to get food at grocery stores and being sure that their children get adjusted to online learning.
There was no reason at all they could defer this final payment until they actually know if/when lacrosse will be played again.
The directors have their heads up their bungs if they think they will have a "schedule finalized next week".
What they did was wrong and it will certainly hurt their program in the future. MANY will turn against them, me included.
There was no reason at all they could defer this final payment until they actually know if/when lacrosse will be played again.
The directors have their heads up their bungs if they think they will have a "schedule finalized next week".
What they did was wrong and it will certainly hurt their program in the future. MANY will turn against them, me included.
When was there final payment and they are still asking for it ?
The final payment was yesterday and YES they took everyones money. Basically theft of services.
Not here to start any trouble but that is just unbelievable that they did something like that . If my landscaper stop doing a service the past 2 months im not paying him . If my oil charged me home heating but never delivered oil im not paying him. What has Express done or if this is a future payment to have the right to take a payment ?? Serious folks someone has to be done with all these clubs i been saying it for awhile . So sad
Express can't be the only club pulling this stunt. Who are the other clubs charging fees for services not rendered?
NY lockdown extended to June 6th. How is that recent LIE payment looking...?
GREEDY PIGS.
It's time to start firing off emails letting certain people know what this man has done. I stopped my credit card early last week before the money was taken, and disputed the Feb. payment.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's time to start firing off emails letting certain people know what this man has done. I stopped my credit card early last week before the money was taken, and disputed the Feb. payment.
So a February and May payment. Watch all these clubs change there paying methods and will finally come up with real contracts .
Straight greed. My boys won't be back with express next year. Really showed their colors with this one.
Many clubs took the money, it just happened that express has an option of payment plan and they are getting slammed. 91 took money in full months ago. All CLUBS need to do the right thing for their families.
Like any of the other clubs are different! My son has played for different clubs over the years and they are all basically the same! Go to 91 they act like they are doing you a favor when you give them money. My son played for one of the new smaller clubs last year, usually garbage, were like a family, happy with all the players, and when tryouts came along if your kid didn't fit a certain criteria he got cut! If you can accept the fact that, one, it's a business, two , they are all the same, and three, that's it's really just more field time for your kid! You will be fine.(THEESE PEOPLE AREN'T LOYAL).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Straight greed. My boys won't be back with express next year. Really showed their colors with this one.
You wont but sadly someone will be behind you paying payments next year .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Straight greed. My boys won't be back with express next year. Really showed their colors with this one.
You wont but sadly someone will be behind you paying payments next year .
Not sure about that. Its a different world now.... avg. Joe no longer has disposable income like pre virus.
Back log of returning college lax players, colleges having $$$ issues and the Even more NCAA .....should be interesting.
That is correct many other clubs took full payment months ago BUT Express had the opportunity to do the right thing before taking the final installment. The correct decision was to defer the final installment and continue to monitor the situation. instead they made a very poor decision. Express didn’t do the right thing by their families and they should get slammed for it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct many other clubs took full payment months ago BUT Express had the opportunity to do the right thing before taking the final installment. The correct decision was to defer the final installment and continue to monitor the situation. instead they made a very poor decision. Express didn’t do the right thing by their families and they should get slammed for it.
Reading back pages ago i thought they waved the payment before this ? Why would they automatically take this payment out with not even picking up a stick as a team ?? Also, why do you agree on automatic withdrawal from account or card. Guess thats how express does it ? Im Not with express, im just with another silent club that moves along like a Turtle doing B.S 30 min. zoom online , i guess to justify there actions but hasn't even said anything about that part of it , im waiting for that .
That's ok, the numbers don't lie! Lax peaked out two years ago! Rabil's new pro league isn't generating the money they were projecting. A flood of kids playing lax with nothing at the end! Colleges board of directors carrying a sport with no revenue!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's ok, the numbers don't lie! Lax peaked out two years ago! Rabil's new pro league isn't generating the money they were projecting. A flood of kids playing lax with nothing at the end! Colleges board of directors carrying a sport with no revenue!
stunad. DId you sign your kid up for youth sports hoping he would make a living out of playing the actual sport? PLL investors are on a 10 year plan. Furthermore, do you think the purpose of college sports is revenue? 70% of a big school like Texas get their revenue from Football. Now, look at the alumni network of the top lacrosse schools and tell me there isn't revenue. You and your kid run out of many programs because you're a stunad and he just isn't any good. The nothing at the end is what became of your super star HS career.....or was it middle school where you peaked?
Take your detest and failure elsewhere little buddy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's ok, the numbers don't lie! Lax peaked out two years ago! Rabil's new pro league isn't generating the money they were projecting. A flood of kids playing lax with nothing at the end! Colleges board of directors carrying a sport with no revenue!
Been saying that for a long time . PLL is dead end . Trying to do a playoff on NBC if that dont work its finished . MLL on the island wont be back . People have to wake up wiith these clubs scamming the prices double what other states are . Im sone with club next yr. Anyone play St. Anthonys heard M.C collected $800 from every player for equipment durning the when birus was announced and his $60 weekend clinics. Shadyyyyy
It's just as shady as the priests and brothers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct many other clubs took full payment months ago BUT Express had the opportunity to do the right thing before taking the final installment. The correct decision was to defer the final installment and continue to monitor the situation. instead they made a very poor decision. Express didn’t do the right thing by their families and they should get slammed for it.
Reading back pages ago i thought they waved the payment before this ? Why would they automatically take this payment out with not even picking up a stick as a team ?? Also, why do you agree on automatic withdrawal from account or card. Guess thats how express does it ? Im Not with express, im just with another silent club that moves along like a Turtle doing B.S 30 min. zoom online , i guess to justify there actions but hasn't even said anything about that part of it , im waiting for that .
Yes ONLY allows you to pay via CC. You have to sign up for automatic withdrawal, no other choice. Can't pay cash or check. Then salt in the wound, they charge you their credit card fees. That is Express in a nutshell.
Hope they are putting the final touches on the schedules to be released this week.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct many other clubs took full payment months ago BUT Express had the opportunity to do the right thing before taking the final installment. The correct decision was to defer the final installment and continue to monitor the situation. instead they made a very poor decision. Express didn’t do the right thing by their families and they should get slammed for it.
Reading back pages ago i thought they waved the payment before this ? Why would they automatically take this payment out with not even picking up a stick as a team ?? Also, why do you agree on automatic withdrawal from account or card. Guess thats how express does it ? Im Not with express, im just with another silent club that moves along like a Turtle doing B.S 30 min. zoom online , i guess to justify there actions but hasn't even said anything about that part of it , im waiting for that .
Yes ONLY allows you to pay via CC. You have to sign up for automatic withdrawal, no other choice. Can't pay cash or check. Then salt in the wound, they charge you their credit card fees. That is Express in a nutshell.
Hope they are putting the final touches on the schedules to be released this week.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's ok, the numbers don't lie! Lax peaked out two years ago! Rabil's new pro league isn't generating the money they were projecting. A flood of kids playing lax with nothing at the end! Colleges board of directors carrying a sport with no revenue!
Been saying that for a long time . PLL is dead end . Trying to do a playoff on NBC if that dont work its finished . MLL on the island wont be back . People have to wake up wiith these clubs scamming the prices double what other states are . Im sone with club next yr. Anyone play St. Anthonys heard M.C collected $800 from every player for equipment durning the when birus was announced and his $60 weekend clinics. Shadyyyyy
He really collects $800 per player or is St. A's? He charges to coach at St. A's?
All I can say is SHAME ON EXPRESS for being greedy and not giving 2 $hit$ about the people who are unemployed due to covid-19. I know I was affected and they took my payment which is about to get disputed ! I am sick of the greedy travel programs and I'm sure this isn't just and Express thing. Let me as a question, if the professionals are not playing in any sports WHY would they let kids go play ? Not to mention the thousands of people who show up to these tournaments ?????
it only takes one family w xx amount of kids to start a lawsuit. Litigation itself will put the clubs to bed, forget about the reputational hit. That's already done with.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's ok, the numbers don't lie! Lax peaked out two years ago! Rabil's new pro league isn't generating the money they were projecting. A flood of kids playing lax with nothing at the end! Colleges board of directors carrying a sport with no revenue!
Been saying that for a long time . PLL is dead end . Trying to do a playoff on NBC if that dont work its finished . MLL on the island wont be back . People have to wake up wiith these clubs scamming the prices double what other states are . Im sone with club next yr. Anyone play St. Anthonys heard M.C collected $800 from every player for equipment durning the when birus was announced and his $60 weekend clinics. Shadyyyyy
Not true. MC is JV coach and that just didnt happen!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's ok, the numbers don't lie! Lax peaked out two years ago! Rabil's new pro league isn't generating the money they were projecting. A flood of kids playing lax with nothing at the end! Colleges board of directors carrying a sport with no revenue!
Been saying that for a long time . PLL is dead end . Trying to do a playoff on NBC if that dont work its finished . MLL on the island wont be back . People have to wake up wiith these clubs scamming the prices double what other states are . Im sone with club next yr. Anyone play St. Anthonys heard M.C collected $800 from every player for equipment durning the when birus was announced and his $60 weekend clinics. Shadyyyyy
Not true. MC is JV coach and that just didnt happen!
AGAIN ! NOT TRUE ! It never happened. Believe me we pay enough to send our kids to St. Anthony's if he tried that he would have been hung !!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's ok, the numbers don't lie! Lax peaked out two years ago! Rabil's new pro league isn't generating the money they were projecting. A flood of kids playing lax with nothing at the end! Colleges board of directors carrying a sport with no revenue!
Been saying that for a long time . PLL is dead end . Trying to do a playoff on NBC if that dont work its finished . MLL on the island wont be back . People have to wake up wiith these clubs scamming the prices double what other states are . Im sone with club next yr. Anyone play St. Anthonys heard M.C collected $800 from every player for equipment durning the when birus was announced and his $60 weekend clinics. Shadyyyyy
Not true. MC is JV coach and that just didnt happen!
AGAIN ! NOT TRUE ! It never happened. Believe me we pay enough to send our kids to St. Anthony's if he tried that he would have been hung !!!
Totally not true. Whoever wrote a post claiming we paid MC $800 for equipment for our kids to play SA lacrosse is a total stunad. Additionally, the he/she needs extreme help forming a simple sentence and spelling simple grammar school words.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's ok, the numbers don't lie! Lax peaked out two years ago! Rabil's new pro league isn't generating the money they were projecting. A flood of kids playing lax with nothing at the end! Colleges board of directors carrying a sport with no revenue!
Been saying that for a long time . PLL is dead end . Trying to do a playoff on NBC if that dont work its finished . MLL on the island wont be back . People have to wake up wiith these clubs scamming the prices double what other states are . Im sone with club next yr. Anyone play St. Anthonys heard M.C collected $800 from every player for equipment durning the when birus was announced and his $60 weekend clinics. Shadyyyyy
Not true. MC is JV coach and that just didnt happen!
AGAIN ! NOT TRUE ! It never happened. Believe me we pay enough to send our kids to St. Anthony's if he tried that he would have been hung !!!
Totally not true. Whoever wrote a post claiming we paid MC $800 for equipment for our kids to play SA lacrosse is a total stunad. Additionally, the he/she needs extreme help forming a simple sentence and spelling simple grammar school words.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's ok, the numbers don't lie! Lax peaked out two years ago! Rabil's new pro league isn't generating the money they were projecting. A flood of kids playing lax with nothing at the end! Colleges board of directors carrying a sport with no revenue!
Been saying that for a long time . PLL is dead end . Trying to do a playoff on NBC if that dont work its finished . MLL on the island wont be back . People have to wake up wiith these clubs scamming the prices double what other states are . Im sone with club next yr. Anyone play St. Anthonys heard M.C collected $800 from every player for equipment durning the when birus was announced and his $60 weekend clinics. Shadyyyyy
Not true. MC is JV coach and that just didnt happen!
AGAIN ! NOT TRUE ! It never happened. Believe me we pay enough to send our kids to St. Anthony's if he tried that he would have been hung !!!
Totally not true. Whoever wrote a post claiming we paid MC $800 for equipment for our kids to play SA lacrosse is a total stunad. Additionally, he/she needs extreme help forming a simple sentence and spelling simple grammar school words.
It was for apparel (swag)
The apparel package was optional for most items and the ones that were mandatory couldn't have been more than $150.00.
We should be getting our schedules any minute now!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We should be getting our schedules any minute now!
Everything will be rescheduled that has been rescheduled already. I doubt there will be any tournaments till September. A lot of tournaments are being smart and just holding off on rescheduling so they don't have to do it twice.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We should be getting our schedules any minute now!
Everything will be rescheduled that has been rescheduled already. I doubt there will be any tournaments till September. A lot of tournaments are being smart and just holding off on rescheduling so they don't have to do it twice.
what tournaments are in stone
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We should be getting our schedules any minute now!
Everything will be rescheduled that has been rescheduled already. I doubt there will be any tournaments till September. A lot of tournaments are being smart and just holding off on rescheduling so they don't have to do it twice.
They will have to cancel the season soon. There is no way kids are going to be playing this year at all. My son was signed up for 4 prospect camps and all were cancelled. Now comes the big question will they refund or hold you money and apply it to next year?
Schools are preparing for online classes this fall. Hopefully this doesn’t happen, but it may. Fall sports are a long shot at this point. That means school sports and club sports in the fall is a maybe. How can anyone actually think a July or August lacrosse will happen. It’s not happening.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Schools are preparing for online classes this fall. Hopefully this doesn’t happen, but it may. Fall sports are a long shot at this point. That means school sports and club sports in the fall is a maybe. How can anyone actually think a July or August lacrosse will happen. It’s not happening.
Yes there will be no school Football. Gonna stink!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Schools are preparing for online classes this fall. Hopefully this doesn’t happen, but it may. Fall sports are a long shot at this point. That means school sports and club sports in the fall is a maybe. How can anyone actually think a July or August lacrosse will happen. It’s not happening.
If the news cycle shifts, yes. All reporting focuses on death, talk about how many people get better. And most people that got really sick had a preexisting condition. And if you are high risk take precautions and if you are healthy take precautions. It wil never be zero for a long time imho.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We should be getting our schedules any minute now!
Everything will be rescheduled that has been rescheduled already. I doubt there will be any tournaments till September. A lot of tournaments are being smart and just holding off on rescheduling so they don't have to do it twice.
They will have to cancel the season soon. There is no way kids are going to be playing this year at all. My son was signed up for 4 prospect camps and all were cancelled. Now comes the big question will they refund or hold you money and apply it to next year?
Well since I’m NOT a bank, I don’t issue loans. They will have to give refunds. After this BS, we will not be back next season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We should be getting our schedules any minute now!
Everything will be rescheduled that has been rescheduled already. I doubt there will be any tournaments till September. A lot of tournaments are being smart and just holding off on rescheduling so they don't have to do it twice.
They will have to cancel the season soon. There is no way kids are going to be playing this year at all. My son was signed up for 4 prospect camps and all were cancelled. Now comes the big question will they refund or hold you money and apply it to next year?
Well since I’m NOT a bank, I don’t issue loans. They will have to give refunds. After this BS, we will not be back next season.
Are they set up to provide refunds? What have they done in the past when they cancel something, apply your money to the next training! If that is the case, you aren't getting any money back unless you are leaving the club.
Nothing like this had happened in the past. There is no what have they done in the past. Worst things happening in the past is a tournament getting cancelled for bad weather. Usually another tournament is added or a new date is added. This is half the season being wiped out for a global virus. The right thing is to get a half refund for missing half the season. Will the right thing be done? That’s the magic question.
If you think that Coach C is going to refund any money you have to be crazy. Not going to happen.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you think that Coach C is going to refund any money you have to be crazy. Not going to happen.
At best they will evaluate each teams schedule since Sept and credit towards next season
That would work fine, if you choose to play for the club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nothing like this had happened in the past. There is no what have they done in the past. Worst things happening in the past is a tournament getting cancelled for bad weather. Usually another tournament is added or a new date is added. This is half the season being wiped out for a global virus. The right thing is to get a half refund for missing half the season. Will the right thing be done? That’s the magic question.
Half? Please, we have 3/4 of an uniform and 3 fall tourneys.....how does that equal to over $3,000? Hope he has a good bankruptcy attorney because the law suits will be coming.
I really hope it does not come down to that. I pray Coach C is right and they can pull this off in August. I don't see how but it is the best income.
Charging the last payment is the last straw for many Express families. We have endured years of mis-management, hungover college age coaches, 1.5 hour scrimmage with a ref as a replacement for a tourney, over sized rosters, being placed in tourneys that we had no business being in and Coach C giving up coaching my son's team mid season. It is all business from now on......provide services or issue refunds.
Can't wait to see the Express tourney schedule for August. Should be out tomorrow , right?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nothing like this had happened in the past. There is no what have they done in the past. Worst things happening in the past is a tournament getting cancelled for bad weather. Usually another tournament is added or a new date is added. This is half the season being wiped out for a global virus. The right thing is to get a half refund for missing half the season. Will the right thing be done? That’s the magic question.
Half? Please, we have 3/4 of an uniform and 3 fall tourneys.....how does that equal to over $3,000? Hope he has a good bankruptcy attorney because the law suits will be coming.
I really hope it does not come down to that. I pray Coach C is right and they can pull this off in August. I don't see how but it is the best income.
Charging the last payment is the last straw for many Express families. We have endured years of mis-management, hungover college age coaches, 1.5 hour scrimmage with a ref as a replacement for a tourney, over sized rosters, being placed in tourneys that we had no business being in and Coach C giving up coaching my son's team mid season. It is all business from now on......provide services or issue refunds.
If you endured years of wrong doings, why are you still with this Express? Plenty of other clubs out there that will take your money and I’m sure you’ll find something there as well to complain about.
Do people really want to play in August?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do people really want to play in August?
Yes and the kids want to play as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nothing like this had happened in the past. There is no what have they done in the past. Worst things happening in the past is a tournament getting cancelled for bad weather. Usually another tournament is added or a new date is added. This is half the season being wiped out for a global virus. The right thing is to get a half refund for missing half the season. Will the right thing be done? That’s the magic question.
Half? Please, we have 3/4 of an uniform and 3 fall tourneys.....how does that equal to over $3,000? Hope he has a good bankruptcy attorney because the law suits will be coming.
I really hope it does not come down to that. I pray Coach C is right and they can pull this off in August. I don't see how but it is the best income.
Charging the last payment is the last straw for many Express families. We have endured years of mis-management, hungover college age coaches, 1.5 hour scrimmage with a ref as a replacement for a tourney, over sized rosters, being placed in tourneys that we had no business being in and Coach C giving up coaching my son's team mid season. It is all business from now on......provide services or issue refunds.
Who could forget the Chucks!
Must have been a nice jersey...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do people really want to play in August?
Yes and the kids want to play as well.
Kids may want to do one tourney in August. They won’t want to play in that heat 4 weekends in a row. And if things open up a little and you can go away....go. Kids can use time away from the house after this garbage.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do people really want to play in August?
Yes and the kids want to play as well.
Kids may want to do one tourney in August. They won’t want to play in that heat 4 weekends in a row. And if things open up a little and you can go away....go. Kids can use time away from the house after this garbage.
I'm giving the club until the end of June. At that time if there is no light at the end of the tunnel, we will move on in regards to this year. I refuse to sit on the edge of my seat waiting during this summer, hoping youth lax will take place. Thus far, my kid moved on from this season, enjoying other likes that were put on the back burner due to lax. If travel lax doesn't return to the fields this year, clubs will be forced to rethink many issues.
Can’t wait to get the schedule today! Holding my breath.....
Lets just say that they can pull off some tournaments in August. Question is, how many parents are going to put the safety and well being of their sons/daughters, teammates, officials and families and not allow their kids to participate ?
I wish teams would just start fresh next season. Trying to patch work 5 or 6 weeks in July and August seems like a waste. Are fields going to issue permits to practice. Are kids supposed to wear masks under their helmets. 25 kids are standing next to each other on the sidelines. If my son starts coughing are other parents going to be nervous? Hopefully school and fall sports are back in play come Sept. People should be reimbursed half the season. Maybe offer people a credit for next year. If they leave team send them a check. The teams that do this will have instant credibility. It’s a good move. Almost every business in the world for the year 2020 will take a loss. Club lax falls into that category. stink up the loss, hopefully the next 10 years will be as profitable as the previous 10 years.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wish teams would just start fresh next season. Trying to patch work 5 or 6 weeks in July and August seems like a waste. Are fields going to issue permits to practice. Are kids supposed to wear masks under their helmets. 25 kids are standing next to each other on the sidelines. If my son starts coughing are other parents going to be nervous? Hopefully school and fall sports are back in play come Sept. People should be reimbursed half the season. Maybe offer people a credit for next year. If they leave team send them a check. The teams that do this will have instant credibility. It’s a good move. Almost every business in the world for the year 2020 will take a loss. Club lax falls into that category. stink up the loss, hopefully the next 10 years will be as profitable as the previous 10 years.
I concur. My son hasn't been told the season is cancelled and like all teams, his team is pushing things back to late July or August. We reached out to the coach and said we are no go for the summer and to please hold his spot for the fall and/or next year. The coach understood as to the summer but did say if a better kid comes for his position he could lose the spot. I told my son and he said - OK. BTW he is a starter and may play college and loves the game but this summer is just not happening. Money and refund still being discussed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nothing like this had happened in the past. There is no what have they done in the past. Worst things happening in the past is a tournament getting cancelled for bad weather. Usually another tournament is added or a new date is added. This is half the season being wiped out for a global virus. The right thing is to get a half refund for missing half the season. Will the right thing be done? That’s the magic question.
Half? Please, we have 3/4 of an uniform and 3 fall tourneys.....how does that equal to over $3,000? Hope he has a good bankruptcy attorney because the law suits will be coming.
I really hope it does not come down to that. I pray Coach C is right and they can pull this off in August. I don't see how but it is the best income.
Charging the last payment is the last straw for many Express families. We have endured years of mis-management, hungover college age coaches, 1.5 hour scrimmage with a ref as a replacement for a tourney, over sized rosters, being placed in tourneys that we had no business being in and Coach C giving up coaching my son's team mid season. It is all business from now on......provide services or issue refunds.
Believe it or not you got more than most clubs for your money. Looks like an extra tournament and a uniform more than my kid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
25 kids are standing next to each other on the sidelines.
You mean 40 kids standing next to each other and all of their parents packed in on the opposite sideline. This is Express we are talking about!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do people really want to play in August?
Yes and the kids want to play as well.
Kids may want to do one tourney in August. They won’t want to play in that heat 4 weekends in a row. And if things open up a little and you can go away....go. Kids can use time away from the house after this garbage.
I'm giving the club until the end of June. At that time if there is no light at the end of the tunnel, we will move on in regards to this year. I refuse to sit on the edge of my seat waiting during this summer, hoping youth lax will take place. Thus far, my kid moved on from this season, enjoying other likes that were put on the back burner due to lax. If travel lax doesn't return to the fields this year, clubs will be forced to rethink many issues.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Do people really want to play in August?
Yes and the kids want to play as well.
Kids may want to do one tourney in August. They won’t want to play in that heat 4 weekends in a row. And if things open up a little and you can go away....go. Kids can use time away from the house after this garbage.
What did everyone think of the training email?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What did everyone think of the training email?
What does it say? We did not get one. Maybe age specific?
I'd say it's age specific. It's several videos to train with. Apparently will be receiving weekly training videos from college/professional players and coaches.
1.5 weeks and zippo on new info or promised schedule.
2024 Team got the training videos. Other teams?
Those videos are well worth the cost if you can’t afford YouTube
Classic,training videos, hahaha. These videos cost a fortune to make, not. Just another way these clubs will try to keep the tuition payments.
YouTube premium subscription is 12 dollars per month.
YouTube premium subscription is 12 dollars per month.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Those videos are well worth the cost if you can’t afford YouTube
So true! I can't afford YouTube premium, but can afford to pay Express tuition north of 3K per season. I received a small refund back from my auto insurance. Although it wasn't much, it was the thought that count. Thinking about it more, I don't pay nearly as much for my auto insurance as i do for lax. It's not only Express, I spoke to other parents, it's the same story.
College lax scene is contracting.....
Everyone, rich, middle class and poor are taking a financial hit....
Express is acting like nothing has changed. If they don’t get their head out of the ground and realize they are just not that important anymore (if they ever were), a rude awakening we s heading their way.
Instead of rallying the Express community to come together, they selfishly took last payment and then ghost it’s families. SMH.....not surprised though.
Everyone, rich, middle class and poor are taking a financial hit....
Express is acting like nothing has changed. If they don’t get their head out of the ground and realize they are just not that important anymore (if they ever were), a rude awakening we s heading their way.
Instead of rallying the Express community to come together, they selfishly took last payment and then ghost it’s families. SMH.....not surprised though.
They all ghosted:
Igloo, 91, and S2S stole the money also. Bad business people.
Igloo, 91, and S2S stole the money also. Bad business people.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They all ghosted:
Igloo, 91, and S2S stole the money also. Bad business people.
Igloo, 91, and S2S stole the money also. Bad business people.
Maybe just bad people?
Who does this to their clients in the middle of an historic pandemic?
Lax is now classified as the one of the sports with the highest risk of transmission. I can't see our endearing governor allowing anyone play lax for quite some time.
2 week, no schedule
The tell tale sign of a bad company or business.......lack of communication.
Beginning of week 3, no comms, no schedule.
Beginning of week 3, no comms, no schedule.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The tell tale sign of a bad company or business.......lack of communication.
Beginning of week 3, no comms, no schedule.
Beginning of week 3, no comms, no schedule.
Bruh: why don’t you just reach out to them rather than [ChillLaxin] n moan anonymously on a web forum. Talk about being a wuss... my kid’s team got the tentative plan for summer. There’s about a 5% chance it will happen, but I appreciate the attempt to at least entertain us. Situation stinks, without question...but this is also a free country. Take your dollars and complaining elsewhere.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The tell tale sign of a bad company or business.......lack of communication.
Beginning of week 3, no comms, no schedule.
Beginning of week 3, no comms, no schedule.
Bruh: why don’t you just reach out to them rather than [ChillLaxin] n moan anonymously on a web forum. Talk about being a wuss... my kid’s team got the tentative plan for summer. There’s about a 5% chance it will happen, but I appreciate the attempt to at least entertain us. Situation stinks, without question...but this is also a free country. Take your dollars and complaining elsewhere.
Can you share what team and what the schedule is?
Did you get a practice schedule too?
That could be some helpful info!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They all ghosted:
Igloo, 91, and S2S stole the money also. Bad business people.
Igloo, 91, and S2S stole the money also. Bad business people.
Maybe just bad people?
Who does this to their clients in the middle of an historic pandemic?
Lax is now classified as the one of the sports with the highest risk of transmission. I can't see our endearing governor allowing anyone play lax for quite some time.
2 week, no schedule
In no way am I sticking up for any club or program, but maybe they haven't shared any info or a schedule because they probably don't know what the season will look like at this point (if there will be one).
I'm sure every single tournament has either been rescheduled, cancelled or is trying to secure an alternate date/location right now. I'm sure every single permit for field space is on hold, if not rescinded. I'm sure every single club needs to evaluate what players have received thus far vs what was promised in their tuition to gauge what type of credit/refund will be fair for each team. I'm sure there are dozens of other unanswerable questions right now.
I'm sure every tuition paying parent would like to hear from their club director(s) -- even if the information at this point is 'we just don't know what will happen for the summer, but as soon as we get a feel we will let you know'. But on the flip side, there are way more pressing things to gain clarity on than my son's and daughter's summer lacrosse team.
Sit tight.....answers will come in due time
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They all ghosted:
Igloo, 91, and S2S stole the money also. Bad business people.
Igloo, 91, and S2S stole the money also. Bad business people.
Maybe just bad people?
Who does this to their clients in the middle of an historic pandemic?
Lax is now classified as the one of the sports with the highest risk of transmission. I can't see our endearing governor allowing anyone play lax for quite some time.
2 week, no schedule
In no way am I sticking up for any club or program, but maybe they haven't shared any info or a schedule because they probably don't know what the season will look like at this point (if there will be one).
I'm sure every single tournament has either been rescheduled, cancelled or is trying to secure an alternate date/location right now. I'm sure every single permit for field space is on hold, if not rescinded. I'm sure every single club needs to evaluate what players have received thus far vs what was promised in their tuition to gauge what type of credit/refund will be fair for each team. I'm sure there are dozens of other unanswerable questions right now.
I'm sure every tuition paying parent would like to hear from their club director(s) -- even if the information at this point is 'we just don't know what will happen for the summer, but as soon as we get a feel we will let you know'. But on the flip side, there are way more pressing things to gain clarity on than my son's and daughter's summer lacrosse team.
Sit tight.....answers will come in due time
A very reasonable statement. Where Express has gone wrong is not say communicating weekly or bi weekly AND
Taking the final payment. That’s what has parents upset.
Don’t take the final payment, say everything is fine and then ghost your families.
Are any Express teams participating in secret practices?
Could it be the teams that practice all year around?
Could it be the teams that practice all year around?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are any Express teams participating in secret practices?
Could it be the teams that practice all year around?
Could it be the teams that practice all year around?
Shhhhhhh
Legacy is
Zoom meetings with the directors this week.......finally!
They seem to have a plan, at least its a path forward after a terrible start.
They seem to have a plan, at least its a path forward after a terrible start.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Zoom meetings with the directors this week.......finally!
They seem to have a plan, at least its a path forward after a terrible start.
They seem to have a plan, at least its a path forward after a terrible start.
For each team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Zoom meetings with the directors this week.......finally!
They seem to have a plan, at least its a path forward after a terrible start.
They seem to have a plan, at least its a path forward after a terrible start.
For each team?
Grade level
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The tell tale sign of a bad company or business.......lack of communication.
Beginning of week 3, no comms, no schedule.
Beginning of week 3, no comms, no schedule.
Bruh: why don’t you just reach out to them rather than [ChillLaxin] n moan anonymously on a web forum. Talk about being a wuss... my kid’s team got the tentative plan for summer. There’s about a 5% chance it will happen, but I appreciate the attempt to at least entertain us. Situation stinks, without question...but this is also a free country. Take your dollars and complaining elsewhere.
Can you share what team and what the schedule is?
Did you get a practice schedule too?
That could be some helpful info!
Crickets Bruh?
Bruh-in-the-know, where is the love, bruh?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Zoom meetings with the directors this week.......finally!
They seem to have a plan, at least its a path forward after a terrible start.
They seem to have a plan, at least its a path forward after a terrible start.
For each team?
Grade level
For parents or the kids? Are you talking about coach meetings? Or are all the directors getting on a parent call by grade level?
re scheduled dates of tournaments are set. Good that some express teams have been practicing
Which team has been practicing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
re scheduled dates of tournaments are set. Good that some express teams have been practicing
Awful that they have been practicing. If I find out who it is, I will report it, they can get a $10,000 fine!! No coach should be doing this for so many reasons!! Not saying kids shouldn’t be practicing, but definitely not as a team! Not now! Maybe they’re practicing to try to avoid refunds?
https:/
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
re scheduled dates of tournaments are set. Good that some express teams have been practicing
Awful that they have been practicing. If I find out who it is, I will report it, they can get a $10,000 fine!! No coach should be doing this for so many reasons!! Not saying kids shouldn’t be practicing, but definitely not as a team! Not now! Maybe they’re practicing to try to avoid refunds?
https:/
Relax it’s in small groups same as legacy is doing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
re scheduled dates of tournaments are set. Good that some express teams have been practicing
Awful that they have been practicing. If I find out who it is, I will report it, they can get a $10,000 fine!! No coach should be doing this for so many reasons!! Not saying kids shouldn’t be practicing, but definitely not as a team! Not now! Maybe they’re practicing to try to avoid refunds?
https:/
Chill out Karen..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
re scheduled dates of tournaments are set. Good that some express teams have been practicing
Awful that they have been practicing. If I find out who it is, I will report it, they can get a $10,000 fine!! No coach should be doing this for so many reasons!! Not saying kids shouldn’t be practicing, but definitely not as a team! Not now! Maybe they’re practicing to try to avoid refunds?
https:/
Not sure what your link is to, doesn't work, but this is from the official Suffolk County reopening page:
CURRENTLY CLOSED
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NAICS: 711211
Industry: Sports Teams and Clubs
Your business is located in Suffolk county, which is in region Long Island.
Businesses of your type and location are not currently allowed to reopen (unless you are already operating as an essential business), and will re-open in a future phase. Please see Link for more information about the phased re-opening plans for New York State.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
re scheduled dates of tournaments are set. Good that some express teams have been practicing
Awful that they have been practicing. If I find out who it is, I will report it, they can get a $10,000 fine!! No coach should be doing this for so many reasons!! Not saying kids shouldn’t be practicing, but definitely not as a team! Not now! Maybe they’re practicing to try to avoid refunds?
https:/
Not sure what your link is to, doesn't work, but this is from the official Suffolk County reopening page:
CURRENTLY CLOSED
Download | Print
NAICS: 711211
Industry: Sports Teams and Clubs
Your business is located in Suffolk county, which is in region Long Island.
Businesses of your type and location are not currently allowed to reopen (unless you are already operating as an essential business), and will re-open in a future phase. Please see Link for more information about the phased re-opening plans for New York State.
clearly someone stirring the pot, I call BS on the person saying there are LIE teams practicing.
Is there Clinic's going on ? some Faceoff guy doing clinics everyday
Zoom meeting was good, hard to see this actually happening but at least the directors are communicating.
I believe that the are acting now, in part to the posts on this forum.
Stay safe!
I believe that the are acting now, in part to the posts on this forum.
Stay safe!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Zoom meeting was good, hard to see this actually happening but at least the directors are communicating.
I believe that the are acting now, in part to the posts on this forum.
Stay safe!
I believe that the are acting now, in part to the posts on this forum.
Stay safe!
Yes, I am sure they are reacting to the 5 people that post nonsense on this forum.
They should be reported they are practicing i know a few teams that memorialized it in an email.
https://aca-prod.accela.com/SUFFCO_REOPEN/Welcome.aspx
https:/
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Zoom meeting was good, hard to see this actually happening but at least the directors are communicating.
I believe that the are acting now, in part to the posts on this forum.
Stay safe!
I believe that the are acting now, in part to the posts on this forum.
Stay safe!
Yes, I am sure they are reacting to the 5 people that post nonsense on this forum.
You may want to look at how many people are viewing these forums at any one time. At 11:20 AM on a Wednesday, more than 1,400 are viewing these forums. Sure, a lot of nonsense but a lot of truth too.
Glad to know that Express management is not requiring young boys to return to the field in July and wear face shields like team 91.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Glad to know that Express management is not requiring young boys to return to the field in July and wear face shields like team 91.
Huh, that is exactly what Express is doing......
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Glad to know that Express management is not requiring young boys to return to the field in July and wear face shields like team 91.
Huh, that is exactly what Express is doing......
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Glad to know that Express management is not requiring young boys to return to the field in July and wear face shields like team 91.
Huh, that is exactly what Express is doing......
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Glad to know that Express management is not requiring young boys to return to the field in July and wear face shields like team 91.
Huh, that is exactly what Express is doing......
They are not "requiring young boys to return to the field in July".. They are simply making arrangements for those of us who are not brainwashed and terrified to get on with our lives. My son is thrilled for the opportunity to get back to practice.
Express management is organizing And participating in many events for all ages
Pretty sure the Corona is over...if protests are allowed, kids will be allowed to play ball. Let the practices and tournaments begin. Enough of the Fake News!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express management is organizing And participating in many events for all ages
Fake news. You're nearly as bad as antics. lost
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They should be reported they are practicing i know a few teams that memorialized it in an email.
https://aca-prod.accela.com/SUFFCO_REOPEN/Welcome.aspx
https:/
You are the same person that would have reported Anne Frank. Its ok to riot and the politicians allow it, it should be ok to play lacrosse.
Igloo, S2S, 91 all starting small group practices... anyone hear anything about Express starting small group sessions? It's not like they owe us anything on the last 2 payments, right?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo, S2S, 91 all starting small group practices... anyone hear anything about Express starting small group sessions? It's not like they owe us anything on the last 2 payments, right?
Will the state allow small group practices?
Gov. Andy sent the liquor authority and they cited Dublin Deck 16 serious violations for the video of them open during the shutdown.
Pretty risky to hold organized practices. Who would even let them use their fields right now?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo, S2S, 91 all starting small group practices... anyone hear anything about Express starting small group sessions? It's not like they owe us anything on the last 2 payments, right?
Express will use St Anthony's fields.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo, S2S, 91 all starting small group practices... anyone hear anything about Express starting small group sessions? It's not like they owe us anything on the last 2 payments, right?
Will the state allow small group practices?
Gov. Andy sent the liquor authority and they cited Dublin Deck 16 serious violations for the video of them open during the shutdown.
Pretty risky to hold organized practices. Who would even let them use their fields right now?
In Suffolk, 91 is back using the Sachem Soccer fields for the last week.
Very risky for any organization to attempt practices right now, After these protests there will be a sudden spike in covid cases. Several other states are seeing alot of new cases since re-opening. Dublin deck was fined 14k for adults drinking, I would think any club having young kids practice would be a worse fine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very risky for any organization to attempt practices right now, After these protests there will be a sudden spike in covid cases. Several other states are seeing alot of new cases since re-opening. Dublin deck was fined 14k for adults drinking, I would think any club having young kids practice would be a worse fine.
Young kids who are healthy have about a zero risk factor for Covid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very risky for any organization to attempt practices right now, After these protests there will be a sudden spike in covid cases. Several other states are seeing alot of new cases since re-opening. Dublin deck was fined 14k for adults drinking, I would think any club having young kids practice would be a worse fine.
Young kids who are healthy have about a zero risk factor for Covid.
but hospital admissions are down and the percent positives are down. the data can presented in multiple ways based the presenters agenda.
Rebels also holding practices.
You can have 10 or less in a group.
You can have 10 or less in a group.
Practices for what? Can they play games or is everything tenative and "Subject to change"?
Practice for What? How about for fun?They may have games or may not have games. If the kids are having fun practicing with their friends that they haven’t seen in months, good for them. Some parents have gotten so crazy with club lax, they seem to forget the most important thing of all. HAVING FUN.
Do you live under a rock? Practice for fun in the middle, yes the middle, of a pandamic.? Thats brilliant!!!! Lax is done and MAY return in the fall. Hope the kids think swimming and bike riding are fun.... dopes!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do you live under a rock? Practice for fun in the middle, yes the middle, of a pandamic.? Thats brilliant!!!! Lax is done and MAY return in the fall. Hope the kids think swimming and bike riding are fun.... dopes!!!
Tournaments are being posted. Season starts in a month down in Delaware. Practices will start across the board next week.
Tournaments are scheduled because they want your $ and are praying they can play them. But that doesn't mean it will happen. Clubs have already begun practicing to avoid issuing refunds. Youth sports is phase 4 so noone should be practicing rigjt now. Delaware: 2 thoughts: first, u think they want NY and NJ residents coming there? They will shut that down immediately. Seco d, if people are desperate enough to drive to Delaware then where they going to sleep? Hotel rooms must be vacant for 24 hrs before they can even begin cleaning them. Where's everyone going to stay? Stop drinking the kool-aid. Its over Johnny!
Tournaments are posted..That's great. Some guy also posted that he found magic lax beans and planted them to grow a beanstalk to Laxland.... Just because they post it means nothing. They want your money and are praying they can play....but seeing how youth sports is Stage 4, we all know that isnt happening. They are trying to give the gullible hope where none exists...
Delaware: 2 comments: First, you think DE wants NY and NJ residents coming to their state when both states are COVID hotbeds? No chance. They will block that. Would you want a leper coming into your house? Next.....
Hotels: Where would everyone stay? Hotels have a mandated 24 hr room vacancy rule before they can even clean the room nonetheless turn it over to the next renter. NO way hotels can honor that. Is everyone going to sleep on the fields under their custom team tents? Wake up man....
Then again, the clubs may push for that so they can up-charge you a "lodging fee". All the above being said, why the heck would anyone want to subject their kids and those around them to a meaningless lax tournament, out of state no less, just for a t shirt? Embarassing playa.........
Delaware: 2 comments: First, you think DE wants NY and NJ residents coming to their state when both states are COVID hotbeds? No chance. They will block that. Would you want a leper coming into your house? Next.....
Hotels: Where would everyone stay? Hotels have a mandated 24 hr room vacancy rule before they can even clean the room nonetheless turn it over to the next renter. NO way hotels can honor that. Is everyone going to sleep on the fields under their custom team tents? Wake up man....
Then again, the clubs may push for that so they can up-charge you a "lodging fee". All the above being said, why the heck would anyone want to subject their kids and those around them to a meaningless lax tournament, out of state no less, just for a t shirt? Embarassing playa.........
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tournaments are posted..That's great. Some guy also posted that he found magic lax beans and planted them to grow a beanstalk to Laxland.... Just because they post it means nothing. They want your money and are praying they can play....but seeing how youth sports is Stage 4, we all know that isnt happening. They are trying to give the gullible hope where none exists...
Delaware: 2 comments: First, you think DE wants NY and NJ residents coming to their state when both states are COVID hotbeds? No chance. They will block that. Would you want a leper coming into your house? Next.....
Hotels: Where would everyone stay? Hotels have a mandated 24 hr room vacancy rule before they can even clean the room nonetheless turn it over to the next renter. NO way hotels can honor that. Is everyone going to sleep on the fields under their custom team tents? Wake up man....
Then again, the clubs may push for that so they can up-charge you a "lodging fee". All the above being said, why the heck would anyone want to subject their kids and those around them to a meaningless lax tournament, out of state no less, just for a t shirt? Embarassing playa.........
Delaware: 2 comments: First, you think DE wants NY and NJ residents coming to their state when both states are COVID hotbeds? No chance. They will block that. Would you want a leper coming into your house? Next.....
Hotels: Where would everyone stay? Hotels have a mandated 24 hr room vacancy rule before they can even clean the room nonetheless turn it over to the next renter. NO way hotels can honor that. Is everyone going to sleep on the fields under their custom team tents? Wake up man....
Then again, the clubs may push for that so they can up-charge you a "lodging fee". All the above being said, why the heck would anyone want to subject their kids and those around them to a meaningless lax tournament, out of state no less, just for a t shirt? Embarassing playa.........
Tournaments are being played. It is happening. I had no problems booking a hotel, but Delaware is less than 2.5 hours from my house, so if we have late games I’ll drive up early. I truly don’t know what you lunatics are talking about. Do you want a refund? Is that it? Listen, if travel lacrosse is too expensive, then don’t do it. There are lots of other options. Most people are comfortable with the current health situation. If you aren’t, then that’s a decision that you’ll need to make. But make no mistake, the season is starting. Most teams have started practicing or will be starting in the next week. The tournaments will be played, under restricted conditions (one day tourneys). And, the boys are going to have a blast. It has nothing to do with t-shirts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tournaments are posted..That's great. Some guy also posted that he found magic lax beans and planted them to grow a beanstalk to Laxland.... Just because they post it means nothing. They want your money and are praying they can play....but seeing how youth sports is Stage 4, we all know that isnt happening. They are trying to give the gullible hope where none exists...
Delaware: 2 comments: First, you think DE wants NY and NJ residents coming to their state when both states are COVID hotbeds? No chance. They will block that. Would you want a leper coming into your house? Next.....
Hotels: Where would everyone stay? Hotels have a mandated 24 hr room vacancy rule before they can even clean the room nonetheless turn it over to the next renter. NO way hotels can honor that. Is everyone going to sleep on the fields under their custom team tents? Wake up man....
Then again, the clubs may push for that so they can up-charge you a "lodging fee". All the above being said, why the heck would anyone want to subject their kids and those around them to a meaningless lax tournament, out of state no less, just for a t shirt? Embarassing playa.........
Delaware: 2 comments: First, you think DE wants NY and NJ residents coming to their state when both states are COVID hotbeds? No chance. They will block that. Would you want a leper coming into your house? Next.....
Hotels: Where would everyone stay? Hotels have a mandated 24 hr room vacancy rule before they can even clean the room nonetheless turn it over to the next renter. NO way hotels can honor that. Is everyone going to sleep on the fields under their custom team tents? Wake up man....
Then again, the clubs may push for that so they can up-charge you a "lodging fee". All the above being said, why the heck would anyone want to subject their kids and those around them to a meaningless lax tournament, out of state no less, just for a t shirt? Embarassing playa.........
Clubs have been rescheduling tournaments for weeks. First it was "zoom," now some clubs came out modified/restrictive practice schedules incorporating social distancing. Not worth it to me. Came to accept the fact club will not refund me anything. Decided to move on until the fall.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tournaments are posted..That's great. Some guy also posted that he found magic lax beans and planted them to grow a beanstalk to Laxland.... Just because they post it means nothing. They want your money and are praying they can play....but seeing how youth sports is Stage 4, we all know that isnt happening. They are trying to give the gullible hope where none exists...
Delaware: 2 comments: First, you think DE wants NY and NJ residents coming to their state when both states are COVID hotbeds? No chance. They will block that. Would you want a leper coming into your house? Next.....
Hotels: Where would everyone stay? Hotels have a mandated 24 hr room vacancy rule before they can even clean the room nonetheless turn it over to the next renter. NO way hotels can honor that. Is everyone going to sleep on the fields under their custom team tents? Wake up man....
Then again, the clubs may push for that so they can up-charge you a "lodging fee". All the above being said, why the heck would anyone want to subject their kids and those around them to a meaningless lax tournament, out of state no less, just for a t shirt? Embarassing playa.........
Delaware: 2 comments: First, you think DE wants NY and NJ residents coming to their state when both states are COVID hotbeds? No chance. They will block that. Would you want a leper coming into your house? Next.....
Hotels: Where would everyone stay? Hotels have a mandated 24 hr room vacancy rule before they can even clean the room nonetheless turn it over to the next renter. NO way hotels can honor that. Is everyone going to sleep on the fields under their custom team tents? Wake up man....
Then again, the clubs may push for that so they can up-charge you a "lodging fee". All the above being said, why the heck would anyone want to subject their kids and those around them to a meaningless lax tournament, out of state no less, just for a t shirt? Embarassing playa.........
Easy there, Johnny Raincloud. Delaware is open for business. LI will be in a month. We’re losing out on some practices, but we’re getting 5 tourneys. It’s going to be awesome.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tournaments are posted..That's great. Some guy also posted that he found magic lax beans and planted them to grow a beanstalk to Laxland.... Just because they post it means nothing. They want your money and are praying they can play....but seeing how youth sports is Stage 4, we all know that isnt happening. They are trying to give the gullible hope where none exists...
Delaware: 2 comments: First, you think DE wants NY and NJ residents coming to their state when both states are COVID hotbeds? No chance. They will block that. Would you want a leper coming into your house? Next.....
Hotels: Where would everyone stay? Hotels have a mandated 24 hr room vacancy rule before they can even clean the room nonetheless turn it over to the next renter. NO way hotels can honor that. Is everyone going to sleep on the fields under their custom team tents? Wake up man....
Then again, the clubs may push for that so they can up-charge you a "lodging fee". All the above being said, why the heck would anyone want to subject their kids and those around them to a meaningless lax tournament, out of state no less, just for a t shirt? Embarassing playa.........
Delaware: 2 comments: First, you think DE wants NY and NJ residents coming to their state when both states are COVID hotbeds? No chance. They will block that. Would you want a leper coming into your house? Next.....
Hotels: Where would everyone stay? Hotels have a mandated 24 hr room vacancy rule before they can even clean the room nonetheless turn it over to the next renter. NO way hotels can honor that. Is everyone going to sleep on the fields under their custom team tents? Wake up man....
Then again, the clubs may push for that so they can up-charge you a "lodging fee". All the above being said, why the heck would anyone want to subject their kids and those around them to a meaningless lax tournament, out of state no less, just for a t shirt? Embarassing playa.........
Easy there, Johnny Raincloud. Delaware is open for business. LI will be in a month. We’re losing out on some practices, but we’re getting 5 tourneys. It’s going to be awesome.
I don't know if Mr. Carefree knows Mr. Raincloud but decisions have NOT been made yet. Its not up to clubs or even facilities. Yes, some tourneys have been rescheduled with the HOPE that they are going forward. Its going to be up to the County exec's and officials in different health departments to make a final decision. Again this will not be bc PT and Express want to have an event in Delaware in July. Nor will it be up to Kirkwood.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tournaments are posted..That's great. Some guy also posted that he found magic lax beans and planted them to grow a beanstalk to Laxland.... Just because they post it means nothing. They want your money and are praying they can play....but seeing how youth sports is Stage 4, we all know that isnt happening. They are trying to give the gullible hope where none exists...
Delaware: 2 comments: First, you think DE wants NY and NJ residents coming to their state when both states are COVID hotbeds? No chance. They will block that. Would you want a leper coming into your house? Next.....
Hotels: Where would everyone stay? Hotels have a mandated 24 hr room vacancy rule before they can even clean the room nonetheless turn it over to the next renter. NO way hotels can honor that. Is everyone going to sleep on the fields under their custom team tents? Wake up man....
Then again, the clubs may push for that so they can up-charge you a "lodging fee". All the above being said, why the heck would anyone want to subject their kids and those around them to a meaningless lax tournament, out of state no less, just for a t shirt? Embarassing playa.........
Delaware: 2 comments: First, you think DE wants NY and NJ residents coming to their state when both states are COVID hotbeds? No chance. They will block that. Would you want a leper coming into your house? Next.....
Hotels: Where would everyone stay? Hotels have a mandated 24 hr room vacancy rule before they can even clean the room nonetheless turn it over to the next renter. NO way hotels can honor that. Is everyone going to sleep on the fields under their custom team tents? Wake up man....
Then again, the clubs may push for that so they can up-charge you a "lodging fee". All the above being said, why the heck would anyone want to subject their kids and those around them to a meaningless lax tournament, out of state no less, just for a t shirt? Embarassing playa.........
Easy there, Johnny Raincloud. Delaware is open for business. LI will be in a month. We’re losing out on some practices, but we’re getting 5 tourneys. It’s going to be awesome.
I don't know if Mr. Carefree knows Mr. Raincloud but decisions have NOT been made yet. Its not up to clubs or even facilities. Yes, some tourneys have been rescheduled with the HOPE that they are going forward. Its going to be up to the County exec's and officials in different health departments to make a final decision. Again this will not be bc PT and Express want to have an event in Delaware in July. Nor will it be up to Kirkwood.
Bay Bridge Brawl will be happening on the Eastern Shore in MD on July 18th. It will be up to the clubs/teams to make the decision. Keep thinking it is not happening while the rest of us enjoy our lax!!
EXACTLY The mentally inept are having issues grasping that concept. Just because Tournament Organizers said "We're on" doesnt make it written in stone. After the spikes occur over the next 2 weeks they will NOT be able to host these events. And to the clown above, your not seeing 5 tournaments bro. "Awesome" will be reading your posts when you realize the club owners and tourney organizers used you to play "Hide the lacrosse shaft" and then you get a bill from your proctologist. Raincloud just ruined your party son......
Originally Posted by Anonymous
EXACTLY The mentally inept are having issues grasping that concept. Just because Tournament Organizers said "We're on" doesnt make it written in stone. After the spikes occur over the next 2 weeks they will NOT be able to host these events. And to the clown above, your not seeing 5 tournaments bro. "Awesome" will be reading your posts when you realize the club owners and tourney organizers used you to play "Hide the lacrosse shaft" and then you get a bill from your proctologist. Raincloud just ruined your party son......
I don't know if this is a troll or someone being serious. Have beer and take a chill dude! If other people want to play some lax then so be it. If this gets you this worked up then taking some time off may be the best thing for your mental health. I can't imagine your actions on the sidelines..........Oh wait, I can
Bay bridge brawl. Lol. Out of 100 people, 5 may say I’m excited to go to that. You are in the 5. I’m in the 95. People lost interest in lax this summer. All sports actually. Most people are just chilling, enjoying the nice weather, hoping things are somewhat normal for summer. People are still unsure about the fall, schools being open, fall sports being played. The only reason lax is even being discussed is clubs collected a lot of money and it’s not so easy returning funds.
Somebody is very angry! He's gonna lose the extra 600 in stimulus money and gonna have to back to the car wash, boo Hoo!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
EXACTLY The mentally inept are having issues grasping that concept. Just because Tournament Organizers said "We're on" doesnt make it written in stone. After the spikes occur over the next 2 weeks they will NOT be able to host these events. And to the clown above, your not seeing 5 tournaments bro. "Awesome" will be reading your posts when you realize the club owners and tourney organizers used you to play "Hide the lacrosse shaft" and then you get a bill from your proctologist. Raincloud just ruined your party son......
I don't know if this is a troll or someone being serious. Have beer and take a chill dude! If other people want to play some lax then so be it. If this gets you this worked up then taking some time off may be the best thing for your mental health. I can't imagine your actions on the sidelines..........Oh wait, I can
Sounds like that guy went full Chevy Chase and spent his travel lax refund before he got it! Enjoy that ham of the month, Johnny!
Sounds like these tourneys in DE and MD are in jeopardy of shutting down.
No college coaches for the older boys, not helpful in the recruiting situation.
Who want to play with these rules anyway?
Starting to see this is a desperate attempt to not issue refunds.
BOY’S LACROSSE
• Alternate Faceoff Procedures
1.1 Coin Toss: Before the start of play, the “official” will call one player from each team and conduct a coin toss. The winner of the coin toss will start the competition with possession of the ball at the center spot. The lost of the coin toss will have the first alternating possession.
1.2 Positioning of Players and Starting Play: The team that wins the coin toss will start with the ball in their offensive half of the field, near the center spot, with a free clear. All other players should be at least five yards from the player with the ball.
1.3 Post-Goal: The goalkeeper or official removes the ball from the goal, and the team that was scored on will start with possession in the crease or along the goal line extended. No restart will take place if any player is within 5 yards of the ball carrier. When the whistle is blown by the official, play will resume.
1.4 Starting a New Quarter/Half: The team that loses the coin toss at the start of the game will have possession to start the second half. No player should be within 5 yards of the ball carrier.
• Loose-Ball Play: When a loose ball is on the ground and cannot be quickly picked up because a group of players are tied up in a scrum, the official can end play early at their discretion (typically four or more seconds ) and award the ball via alternate possession rule.
• Procedures for Loose-Ball Technical Fouls: When a loose-ball violation has been committed, the offended team can receive a quick play-on when an official visually and verbally signals “play-on.” If the offended team cannot quickly gain possession of the loose ball, the play-on must be ended immediately. In general, if it is unclear whether the offended team will quickly gain possession of the ball, play should be stopped, and the ball awarded to the team entitled to possession.
No college coaches for the older boys, not helpful in the recruiting situation.
Who want to play with these rules anyway?
Starting to see this is a desperate attempt to not issue refunds.
BOY’S LACROSSE
• Alternate Faceoff Procedures
1.1 Coin Toss: Before the start of play, the “official” will call one player from each team and conduct a coin toss. The winner of the coin toss will start the competition with possession of the ball at the center spot. The lost of the coin toss will have the first alternating possession.
1.2 Positioning of Players and Starting Play: The team that wins the coin toss will start with the ball in their offensive half of the field, near the center spot, with a free clear. All other players should be at least five yards from the player with the ball.
1.3 Post-Goal: The goalkeeper or official removes the ball from the goal, and the team that was scored on will start with possession in the crease or along the goal line extended. No restart will take place if any player is within 5 yards of the ball carrier. When the whistle is blown by the official, play will resume.
1.4 Starting a New Quarter/Half: The team that loses the coin toss at the start of the game will have possession to start the second half. No player should be within 5 yards of the ball carrier.
• Loose-Ball Play: When a loose ball is on the ground and cannot be quickly picked up because a group of players are tied up in a scrum, the official can end play early at their discretion (typically four or more seconds ) and award the ball via alternate possession rule.
• Procedures for Loose-Ball Technical Fouls: When a loose-ball violation has been committed, the offended team can receive a quick play-on when an official visually and verbally signals “play-on.” If the offended team cannot quickly gain possession of the loose ball, the play-on must be ended immediately. In general, if it is unclear whether the offended team will quickly gain possession of the ball, play should be stopped, and the ball awarded to the team entitled to possession.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like these tourneys in DE and MD are in jeopardy of shutting down.
No college coaches for the older boys, not helpful in the recruiting situation.
Who want to play with these rules anyway?
Starting to see this is a desperate attempt to not issue refunds.
BOY’S LACROSSE
• Alternate Faceoff Procedures
1.1 Coin Toss: Before the start of play, the “official” will call one player from each team and conduct a coin toss. The winner of the coin toss will start the competition with possession of the ball at the center spot. The lost of the coin toss will have the first alternating possession.
1.2 Positioning of Players and Starting Play: The team that wins the coin toss will start with the ball in their offensive half of the field, near the center spot, with a free clear. All other players should be at least five yards from the player with the ball.
1.3 Post-Goal: The goalkeeper or official removes the ball from the goal, and the team that was scored on will start with possession in the crease or along the goal line extended. No restart will take place if any player is within 5 yards of the ball carrier. When the whistle is blown by the official, play will resume.
1.4 Starting a New Quarter/Half: The team that loses the coin toss at the start of the game will have possession to start the second half. No player should be within 5 yards of the ball carrier.
• Loose-Ball Play: When a loose ball is on the ground and cannot be quickly picked up because a group of players are tied up in a scrum, the official can end play early at their discretion (typically four or more seconds ) and award the ball via alternate possession rule.
• Procedures for Loose-Ball Technical Fouls: When a loose-ball violation has been committed, the offended team can receive a quick play-on when an official visually and verbally signals “play-on.” If the offended team cannot quickly gain possession of the loose ball, the play-on must be ended immediately. In general, if it is unclear whether the offended team will quickly gain possession of the ball, play should be stopped, and the ball awarded to the team entitled to possession.
No college coaches for the older boys, not helpful in the recruiting situation.
Who want to play with these rules anyway?
Starting to see this is a desperate attempt to not issue refunds.
BOY’S LACROSSE
• Alternate Faceoff Procedures
1.1 Coin Toss: Before the start of play, the “official” will call one player from each team and conduct a coin toss. The winner of the coin toss will start the competition with possession of the ball at the center spot. The lost of the coin toss will have the first alternating possession.
1.2 Positioning of Players and Starting Play: The team that wins the coin toss will start with the ball in their offensive half of the field, near the center spot, with a free clear. All other players should be at least five yards from the player with the ball.
1.3 Post-Goal: The goalkeeper or official removes the ball from the goal, and the team that was scored on will start with possession in the crease or along the goal line extended. No restart will take place if any player is within 5 yards of the ball carrier. When the whistle is blown by the official, play will resume.
1.4 Starting a New Quarter/Half: The team that loses the coin toss at the start of the game will have possession to start the second half. No player should be within 5 yards of the ball carrier.
• Loose-Ball Play: When a loose ball is on the ground and cannot be quickly picked up because a group of players are tied up in a scrum, the official can end play early at their discretion (typically four or more seconds ) and award the ball via alternate possession rule.
• Procedures for Loose-Ball Technical Fouls: When a loose-ball violation has been committed, the offended team can receive a quick play-on when an official visually and verbally signals “play-on.” If the offended team cannot quickly gain possession of the loose ball, the play-on must be ended immediately. In general, if it is unclear whether the offended team will quickly gain possession of the ball, play should be stopped, and the ball awarded to the team entitled to possession.
Do you mind posting the link where you found this? Not challenging it but I know if I use this someone will ask Thanks
I googled and found it here:
https://coronavirus.delaware.gov/wp...e-and-Suggested-Guidelines-6.12.2020.pdf
https://coronavirus.delaware.gov/wp...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like these tourneys in DE and MD are in jeopardy of shutting down.
No college coaches for the older boys, not helpful in the recruiting situation.
Who want to play with these rules anyway?
Starting to see this is a desperate attempt to not issue refunds.
BOY’S LACROSSE
• Alternate Faceoff Procedures
1.1 Coin Toss: Before the start of play, the “official” will call one player from each team and conduct a coin toss. The winner of the coin toss will start the competition with possession of the ball at the center spot. The lost of the coin toss will have the first alternating possession.
1.2 Positioning of Players and Starting Play: The team that wins the coin toss will start with the ball in their offensive half of the field, near the center spot, with a free clear. All other players should be at least five yards from the player with the ball.
1.3 Post-Goal: The goalkeeper or official removes the ball from the goal, and the team that was scored on will start with possession in the crease or along the goal line extended. No restart will take place if any player is within 5 yards of the ball carrier. When the whistle is blown by the official, play will resume.
1.4 Starting a New Quarter/Half: The team that loses the coin toss at the start of the game will have possession to start the second half. No player should be within 5 yards of the ball carrier.
• Loose-Ball Play: When a loose ball is on the ground and cannot be quickly picked up because a group of players are tied up in a scrum, the official can end play early at their discretion (typically four or more seconds ) and award the ball via alternate possession rule.
• Procedures for Loose-Ball Technical Fouls: When a loose-ball violation has been committed, the offended team can receive a quick play-on when an official visually and verbally signals “play-on.” If the offended team cannot quickly gain possession of the loose ball, the play-on must be ended immediately. In general, if it is unclear whether the offended team will quickly gain possession of the ball, play should be stopped, and the ball awarded to the team entitled to possession.
No college coaches for the older boys, not helpful in the recruiting situation.
Who want to play with these rules anyway?
Starting to see this is a desperate attempt to not issue refunds.
BOY’S LACROSSE
• Alternate Faceoff Procedures
1.1 Coin Toss: Before the start of play, the “official” will call one player from each team and conduct a coin toss. The winner of the coin toss will start the competition with possession of the ball at the center spot. The lost of the coin toss will have the first alternating possession.
1.2 Positioning of Players and Starting Play: The team that wins the coin toss will start with the ball in their offensive half of the field, near the center spot, with a free clear. All other players should be at least five yards from the player with the ball.
1.3 Post-Goal: The goalkeeper or official removes the ball from the goal, and the team that was scored on will start with possession in the crease or along the goal line extended. No restart will take place if any player is within 5 yards of the ball carrier. When the whistle is blown by the official, play will resume.
1.4 Starting a New Quarter/Half: The team that loses the coin toss at the start of the game will have possession to start the second half. No player should be within 5 yards of the ball carrier.
• Loose-Ball Play: When a loose ball is on the ground and cannot be quickly picked up because a group of players are tied up in a scrum, the official can end play early at their discretion (typically four or more seconds ) and award the ball via alternate possession rule.
• Procedures for Loose-Ball Technical Fouls: When a loose-ball violation has been committed, the offended team can receive a quick play-on when an official visually and verbally signals “play-on.” If the offended team cannot quickly gain possession of the loose ball, the play-on must be ended immediately. In general, if it is unclear whether the offended team will quickly gain possession of the ball, play should be stopped, and the ball awarded to the team entitled to possession.
Do you mind posting the link where you found this? Not challenging it but I know if I use this someone will ask Thanks
FLG is having their tournament in Delaware. Seems like they didn't want this information to leak out to the parents. Why didn't FLG provide families with this information? If we go, what other surprises can we expect? All these meaningless videos and interviews posted on their Facebook page, and they didn't provide/post this important info. First I emailed FLG and asked if there were any restrictions parents need to be made aware of; Coach Wink (can't believe he refers to himself by that) said the parents only need to social distance and wear a face mask. Then I replied with the web link and didn't hear a word back from the Wink Master! Horrible!
As Ronald Reagan said - the more the plans fail the more the planners plan.
so....Express ever starting up or are we just forced to watch the other clubs?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
so....Express ever starting up or are we just forced to watch the other clubs?
Be quiet and keep paying. That's how CoachC wants it.
Great Job!
Who’s flocking back to express after what they pulled ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who’s flocking back to express after what they pulled ?
They started practice this week as soon as they were allowed under the state/local guidelines, they were transparent that they are charging the full tuition, whether we agree or not most paid it I assume. Coach said he will provide as much lacrosse as possible which may spill over into fall, then reassess for possible credit towards next year. Potentially no tryouts for next year which will save a small amount of money. What more do you want?
i get it - Express is always under a microscope. So, there could be no shenanigans. However, this whole charade is somewhat comical.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i get it - Express is always under a microscope. So, there could be no shenanigans. However, this whole charade is somewhat comical.
What is the charade exactly?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
so....Express ever starting up or are we just forced to watch the other clubs?
They had small group practices before this week - saw multiple times groups of 6-10 of express players with Coaches at HHH West field
I heard the Schwaldo parents chipped in and got him a masterclass subscription on the basics of a motion offense which came with a one time bonus of non creaming public speaking
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i get it - Express is always under a microscope. So, there could be no shenanigans. However, this whole charade is somewhat comical.
What is the charade exactly?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i get it - Express is always under a microscope. So, there could be no shenanigans. However, this whole charade is somewhat comical.
What is the charade exactly?
5 days a week practice - as if there’s something to be ready for?
have to get ready for play dates.
BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN! Thats the issue. Not quite sure how Travel Lax will play tournaments in July and August like they claim. Common sense says they wont. They need one legit program to come out and say "the safety of the players is what matters most and in this environment, without real direction, we are shutting it down and will re-evaluate in August".
The issue there is that the wacko parents will be blowing up their phones, mandating tournaments, etc. So to appease (keep them quiet) the clubs feed them all of these ficticious tournaments and have "Under the radar" practices. All in the name of buying time and silence. The whole system is flawed
The issue there is that the wacko parents will be blowing up their phones, mandating tournaments, etc. So to appease (keep them quiet) the clubs feed them all of these ficticious tournaments and have "Under the radar" practices. All in the name of buying time and silence. The whole system is flawed
Not happening , 91 tournaments aka any " my lacrosse tournaments" already started this past weekend .....so any hope for not playing tournaments is gone . You have to remember that mylacrossetournaments puts out 30 per year . A lot of money lost for that dynamic lacrosse corporation that runs 91. So they started this past weekend in Jersey .
That’s very dangerous with infection rates soaring outside of our area! Some one needs to think about the health of all the people involved here and the surge of cases after large gathering.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not happening , 91 tournaments aka any " my lacrosse tournaments" already started this past weekend .....so any hope for not playing tournaments is gone . You have to remember that mylacrossetournaments puts out 30 per year . A lot of money lost for that dynamic lacrosse corporation that runs 91. So they started this past weekend in Jersey .
Exactly, NAL Summer Invitational is listed in Tourney Machine. Plenty of NY teams showing up for that.
Couldn't agree with you more ....however, if they are allowed as they are now the tournaments will go on. We would be delusional if we didn't think these clubs would want to risk losing all of that money they bring in from a tournament. That's why they pushed it all I yo end of July and August
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That’s very dangerous with infection rates soaring outside of our area! Some one needs to think about the health of all the people involved here and the surge of cases after large gathering.
FYI- the tournament was in NJ with teams from NY, NJ and CT.
All states that are aligned around reopening and intra state travel. So in theory, it was held in a responsible way but maybe they should have checked with you first mom?
Play or dont play. Thats up to you!
Play or dont play. Thats up to you!
^^^^^ THIS
^^^^^ THIS
whatcha gonna do when you cant post to BOTC cause you laying in a hospial bed? hope its worth it
Let's see .....1 % chance of contracting the virus . I guess the rest of us will take the 99% chance of not getting it and have fun watching the kids play. Have fun on the couch watching CNN
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let's see .....1 % chance of contracting the virus . I guess the rest of us will take the 99% chance of not getting it and have fun watching the kids play. Have fun on the couch watching CNN
Go back and play with your kids, you sound like a stay at home dad with 3 kids and the oldest being 10 years old.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
whatcha gonna do when you cant post to BOTC cause you laying in a hospial bed? hope its worth it
Again, follow government guidelines and best practices not fear mongering on BOTC and elsewhere. The virus is real, no doubt about it. NY, NJ and CT are managing it. I trust them sooooo much more than the people of BOTC so if they say game on, we will be there. Wont go to Delaware and wont go to Florida but Im going to follow the rules of those that are setting the rules and then make an educated decision. Please do wear masks!
Trydates?
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Trydates?
Tryout dates?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Trydates?
Tryout dates?
Seriously??? Is Express making you pay for tryouts??
What sissy of a man is so fearful of this virus? If you don’t have passion for lacrosse or sports in general stop following a sport page
Dude, are you on the spectrum? Are you educated? Please close your yap and stop embarassing yourself. That may be the most ignorant post I have ever read on this site and trust me, there have been some dense ones. Congrats!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Trydates?
Tryout dates?
Seriously??? Is Express making you pay for tryouts??
Who said anything about paying?
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
It's said; things become old fast. Express tryouts? Re-group and collect a new bundle of money. I guess I'll shell out more money for round two of uncertainty with them.
with!! Seriously! If the way Express mgmt is treating you after this fiasco of a season doesnt make you wake up and question if they have yours and your kids best interest in mind, then I dont know what will.
The treatment of the Express to the their families, in this unprecedented time, has been pretty good in my opinion. All teams are practicing a lot, and all are playing competitive games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
It's said; things become old fast. Express tryouts? Re-group and collect a new bundle of money. I guess I'll shell out more money for round two of uncertainty with them.
There are no tryouts. Teams are staying the same and rolling into the new season.
CoachC 2025 lost to Primetime?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
It's said; things become old fast. Express tryouts? Re-group and collect a new bundle of money. I guess I'll shell out more money for round two of uncertainty with them.
There are no tryouts. Teams are staying the same and rolling into the new season.
No chance. Every club will hold tryouts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The treatment of the Express to the their families, in this unprecedented time, has been pretty good in my opinion. All teams are practicing a lot, and all are playing competitive games.
Communication is still terrible and who needs 5 practices in one week?
We still have not played a competitive game. Lets be honest, they are doing this so they don’t have issue refunds. They are better organized and are following Covid rules much more than other clubs. I guess it is what it is. Better than nothing?
They are doing the best they can with all the rules and regulations so they don't hear constant complaining. Not sure what else more you can expect.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are doing the best they can with all the rules and regulations so they don't hear constant complaining. Not sure what else more you can expect.
Maybe send out the practice schedule before Sunday Afternoon?
Send updates on tourneys?
Use there own app to list practices and tourneys?
Just saying...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
It's said; things become old fast. Express tryouts? Re-group and collect a new bundle of money. I guess I'll shell out more money for round two of uncertainty with them.
There are no tryouts. Teams are staying the same and rolling into the new season.
No chance. Every club will hold tryouts.
It's already been communicated that there will be no tryouts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
It's said; things become old fast. Express tryouts? Re-group and collect a new bundle of money. I guess I'll shell out more money for round two of uncertainty with them.
There are no tryouts. Teams are staying the same and rolling into the new season.
No chance. Every club will hold tryouts.
It's already been communicated that there will be no tryouts.
Tryouts would be a death blow to Express... the last of the players that actually still play for Express... will leave for 91
91 and Express are the exact same beast.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
It's said; things become old fast. Express tryouts? Re-group and collect a new bundle of money. I guess I'll shell out more money for round two of uncertainty with them.
There are no tryouts. Teams are staying the same and rolling into the new season.
They are not staying the same. If you believe that, then I have a lovely bridge to sell you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
It's said; things become old fast. Express tryouts? Re-group and collect a new bundle of money. I guess I'll shell out more money for round two of uncertainty with them.
There are no tryouts. Teams are staying the same and rolling into the new season.
No they are not staying the same.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
It's said; things become old fast. Express tryouts? Re-group and collect a new bundle of money. I guess I'll shell out more money for round two of uncertainty with them.
There are no tryouts. Teams are staying the same and rolling into the new season.
No chance. Every club will hold tryouts.
It's already been communicated that there will be no tryouts.
When exactly was that communicated?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
It's said; things become old fast. Express tryouts? Re-group and collect a new bundle of money. I guess I'll shell out more money for round two of uncertainty with them.
There are no tryouts. Teams are staying the same and rolling into the new season.
No chance. Every club will hold tryouts.
It's already been communicated that there will be no tryouts.
When exactly was that communicated?
In each of the Zoom calls leadership conducted with parents. Now, since that call occurred... i have noticed several new kids join teams
No chance. Every club will hold tryouts.[/quote]
It's already been communicated that there will be no tryouts.[/quote]
When exactly was that communicated?[/quote]
In each of the Zoom calls leadership conducted with parents. Now, since that call occurred... i have noticed several new kids join teams[/quote]
We switched teams to play on Express to get playing time at the HS level.
It's already been communicated that there will be no tryouts.[/quote]
When exactly was that communicated?[/quote]
In each of the Zoom calls leadership conducted with parents. Now, since that call occurred... i have noticed several new kids join teams[/quote]
We switched teams to play on Express to get playing time at the HS level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
It's said; things become old fast. Express tryouts? Re-group and collect a new bundle of money. I guess I'll shell out more money for round two of uncertainty with them.
There are no tryouts. Teams are staying the same and rolling into the new season.
There may not be tryouts, but teams will NOT be staying the same.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 and Express are the exact same beast.
My kids have played for both and they are not the same beast. 91 charges the same but gives you less. Every opportunity to double dip on tournaments where they can get away with it, they do. The only thing 91 has over Express is they run the winter directors clinic which is generally very good. Express's clinics are ala carte. Beyond that, 91 nickle and dimes you to death. My experience with Express is, here is the price, you pay it and done. I remember 91 charging us $7 for helmet decals. Yeah. $7. We had to collect money from parents for that.
If you have the cash, your on an Express team. Very simple.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
It's said; things become old fast. Express tryouts? Re-group and collect a new bundle of money. I guess I'll shell out more money for round two of uncertainty with them.
There are no tryouts. Teams are staying the same and rolling into the new season.
There may not be tryouts, but teams will NOT be staying the same.
You all dont get it. Express does not reject anyone at tryouts, because they are more than happy to take anyone's money and overload the teams. It doesnt mean you will play, or even necessarily be on the best team in that age group. They say no tryouts to keep you happy so you pay your money. But they are always adding players. Beginning, middle, and end. They are adding them now.
Since most posts always seem to point to the negative. All things considered, In my opinion, the Express has produced a solid summer season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after a mess of barely any season, and no refunds or credit back for next season, the current kids on the team are not guaranteed a spot for the new season?
It's said; things become old fast. Express tryouts? Re-group and collect a new bundle of money. I guess I'll shell out more money for round two of uncertainty with them.
There are no tryouts. Teams are staying the same and rolling into the new season.
There may not be tryouts, but teams will NOT be staying the same.
You all dont get it. Express does not reject anyone at tryouts, because they are more than happy to take anyone's money and overload the teams. It doesnt mean you will play, or even necessarily be on the best team in that age group. They say no tryouts to keep you happy so you pay your money. But they are always adding players. Beginning, middle, and end. They are adding them now.
If there are no tryouts, I'd have to think that parents of stronger players on the Express B teams can't be happy their sons won't have a shot at making A. Also, must be a relief to the bottom 3 or 4 boys on every A team roster.
C’mon stop it. Three clubs already announced tryouts. Do you really think there won’t be tryouts. That’s funny. And no players on the B teams will make any A teams, or they would be there already. You don’t really believe that any B team player is making the A team? You need a travel parent intervention. Be the best on the B team and enjoy that. Or go to some second tier club A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
C’mon stop it. Three clubs already announced tryouts. Do you really think there won’t be tryouts. That’s funny. And no players on the B teams will make any A teams, or they would be there already. You don’t really believe that any B team player is making the A team? You need a travel parent intervention. Be the best on the B team and enjoy that. Or go to some second tier club A team.
1/2 of players Express bloated A teams never see the field because they are just B level players. They are only on the A team due to politics, favors or $$$$. Everyone is happy until recruiting gears up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
C’mon stop it. Three clubs already announced tryouts. Do you really think there won’t be tryouts. That’s funny. And no players on the B teams will make any A teams, or they would be there already. You don’t really believe that any B team player is making the A team? You need a travel parent intervention. Be the best on the B team and enjoy that. Or go to some second tier club A team.
Players don’t improve or mature?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
C’mon stop it. Three clubs already announced tryouts. Do you really think there won’t be tryouts. That’s funny. And no players on the B teams will make any A teams, or they would be there already. You don’t really believe that any B team player is making the A team? You need a travel parent intervention. Be the best on the B team and enjoy that. Or go to some second tier club A team.
Players don’t improve or mature?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
C’mon stop it. Three clubs already announced tryouts. Do you really think there won’t be tryouts. That’s funny. And no players on the B teams will make any A teams, or they would be there already. You don’t really believe that any B team player is making the A team? You need a travel parent intervention. Be the best on the B team and enjoy that. Or go to some second tier club A team.
Players don’t improve or mature?
Lol, that’s that thinking why B team player parents think they’ll be A team players. It’s rare on the elite clubs. B teams used be awesome at the big clubs. But the parents ruined the model in recent years, plus the saturation on clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
C’mon stop it. Three clubs already announced tryouts. Do you really think there won’t be tryouts. That’s funny. And no players on the B teams will make any A teams, or they would be there already. You don’t really believe that any B team player is making the A team? You need a travel parent intervention. Be the best on the B team and enjoy that. Or go to some second tier club A team.
What 3 clubs have announced tryouts? I haven't seen any. Also, the best middie on the 2023 A team was on the B the team for multiple years. Things change...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
C’mon stop it. Three clubs already announced tryouts. Do you really think there won’t be tryouts. That’s funny. And no players on the B teams will make any A teams, or they would be there already. You don’t really believe that any B team player is making the A team? You need a travel parent intervention. Be the best on the B team and enjoy that. Or go to some second tier club A team.
What 3 clubs have announced tryouts? I haven't seen any. Also, the best middie on the 2023 A team was on the B the team for multiple years. Things change...
Yeah, very very few. The problem is that there are too many kids on the A teams that don’t belong there. And parents hold out to be one of those very very few. And I don’t blame the clubs. If somebody is willing to pay to have their kid sit on the bench, that’s on the parents.
I am confused. I thought the top team in each age group was labeled AA and the next level was A. So is the top team AA overloaded with too many players?
Has anyone played any tournaments on Long Island? I'm hearing that there is no contact allowed, so whats the point?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone played any tournaments on Long Island? I'm hearing that there is no contact allowed, so whats the point?
because its better than playing catch at practice, and they can still swing sticks. what's your point?
Long Ireland was this weekend. There was contact from what I saw.
Long Ireland tourney looked like LAX. Only slightly less physical and no FO. It was definitely not girl's LAX.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone played any tournaments on Long Island? I'm hearing that there is no contact allowed, so whats the point?
Yes, my son played this past weekend @ St Paul's in Garden City. Play day format, so no playoffs or standings really.
Biggest difference with the contact was basically eliminating the face-off. Remainder of the game was pretty much normal as ever. Refs allowed body checking within the normal rules. I wouldn't call it "Non-Contact" at all.
The point was made on another thread here that this actually gave teams more reps to work on clears/rides and really helped cut down on the chance of a blowout from one team dominating possession with a strong fogo.
Not really sure where I land on that....but for this season, I'll take this format, playing 10 minutes from home and done in 5 hours, over headed to NJ to have a face-off and monopolizing the entire day.
Faceoffs are going to be a thing of the past soon anyway
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
C’mon stop it. Three clubs already announced tryouts. Do you really think there won’t be tryouts. That’s funny. And no players on the B teams will make any A teams, or they would be there already. You don’t really believe that any B team player is making the A team? You need a travel parent intervention. Be the best on the B team and enjoy that. Or go to some second tier club A team.
What 3 clubs have announced tryouts? I haven't seen any. Also, the best middie on the 2023 A team was on the B the team for multiple years. Things change...
FLG and Turtles to name a few. Tryouts are likely happening in my opinion. And they are mostly to fill out the 2nd and 3rd teams. The best talent usually gets added outside or before tryouts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Faceoffs are going to be a thing of the past soon anyway
I'm sure those parents who thought that was little Johhnys free meal ticket to college will be pissed about that !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Faceoffs are going to be a thing of the past soon anyway
Very true been hearing that for some time now , getting rid of the Draw. The position has been tweaked few times the past 5 yrs . Now they want to stop knee down. Face off clinics is a big business for some .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Faceoffs are going to be a thing of the past soon anyway
We can only hope.. Should be like Basketball..Soon as Goal is announced , whistle blows and off they go..Fast paced action...No more stopping everything for a wrestling match or some team dominating for the entire game of make it take it..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Faceoffs are going to be a thing of the past soon anyway
Very true been hearing that for some time now , getting rid of the Draw. The position has been tweaked few times the past 5 yrs . Now they want to stop knee down. Face off clinics is a big business for some .
What is shommy going to do?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Faceoffs are going to be a thing of the past soon anyway
Very true been hearing that for some time now , getting rid of the Draw. The position has been tweaked few times the past 5 yrs . Now they want to stop knee down. Face off clinics is a big business for some .
What is shommy going to do?
Not a FOGO lover but why so much detest for the faceoff? Would the game be so much more exciting if Team A scores on Team B, Team B takes it out of the net and Team A rides for a turn over and scores again and again and again? Free clear like grade school? Should we make penalties fast breaks again?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Faceoffs are going to be a thing of the past soon anyway
Very true been hearing that for some time now , getting rid of the Draw. The position has been tweaked few times the past 5 yrs . Now they want to stop knee down. Face off clinics is a big business for some .
What is shommy going to do?
stand, set, blow whistle.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Faceoffs are going to be a thing of the past soon anyway
Very true been hearing that for some time now , getting rid of the Draw. The position has been tweaked few times the past 5 yrs . Now they want to stop knee down. Face off clinics is a big business for some .
What is shommy going to do?
Not a FOGO lover but why so much detest for the faceoff? Would the game be so much more exciting if Team A scores on Team B, Team B takes it out of the net and Team A rides for a turn over and scores again and again and again? Free clear like grade school? Should we make penalties fast breaks again?
I watched an AA level game this weekend. If it were not for faceoffs the score would have been 50-0 as one team could not break the other teams ride when/if they made a save or got the ball in their own zone. Other team snatched it right back and scored immediately or just sat way back and the other team could not make any passes up the field without it getting intercepted. The only thing that kept it competitive was the other team being able to win some face offs and kill the clock and play some offense. I am not arguing either way, but what happens in this scenario. What then. Free clears from midfield. It's tough to find the right thing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
C’mon stop it. Three clubs already announced tryouts. Do you really think there won’t be tryouts. That’s funny. And no players on the B teams will make any A teams, or they would be there already. You don’t really believe that any B team player is making the A team? You need a travel parent intervention. Be the best on the B team and enjoy that. Or go to some second tier club A team.
What 3 clubs have announced tryouts? I haven't seen any. Also, the best middie on the 2023 A team was on the B the team for multiple years. Things change...
FLG and Turtles to name a few. Tryouts are likely happening in my opinion. And they are mostly to fill out the 2nd and 3rd teams. The best talent usually gets added outside or before tryouts.
Bro, Turtles are good. Drop/replace a defender we are golden.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Faceoffs are going to be a thing of the past soon anyway
Very true been hearing that for some time now , getting rid of the Draw. The position has been tweaked few times the past 5 yrs . Now they want to stop knee down. Face off clinics is a big business for some .
What is shommy going to do?
Not a FOGO lover but why so much detest for the faceoff? Would the game be so much more exciting if Team A scores on Team B, Team B takes it out of the net and Team A rides for a turn over and scores again and again and again? Free clear like grade school? Should we make penalties fast breaks again?
I watched an AA level game this weekend. If it were not for faceoffs the score would have been 50-0 as one team could not break the other teams ride when/if they made a save or got the ball in their own zone. Other team snatched it right back and scored immediately or just sat way back and the other team could not make any passes up the field without it getting intercepted. The only thing that kept it competitive was the other team being able to win some face offs and kill the clock and play some offense. I am not arguing either way, but what happens in this scenario. What then. Free clears from midfield. It's tough to find the right thing.
Again, not a fan of the player that is one dimensional and runs off but I also cant see the game with out the face off. Keep doing that pull ball out of net, draconian ride for turn over in 90 degree weather (unless you’re Wolfpack) and that D and the middies are stuck on the field running out of gas. Sorry fellas, its more like hockey, go to center ice and drop the puck and start play again. Ill take faceoffs with PLL rules over so much worry about changing the game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
C’mon stop it. Three clubs already announced tryouts. Do you really think there won’t be tryouts. That’s funny. And no players on the B teams will make any A teams, or they would be there already. You don’t really believe that any B team player is making the A team? You need a travel parent intervention. Be the best on the B team and enjoy that. Or go to some second tier club A team.
What 3 clubs have announced tryouts? I haven't seen any. Also, the best middie on the 2023 A team was on the B the team for multiple years. Things change...
FLG and Turtles to name a few. Tryouts are likely happening in my opinion. And they are mostly to fill out the 2nd and 3rd teams. The best talent usually gets added outside or before tryouts.
Bro, Turtles are good. Drop/replace a defender we are golden.
How many team do the have for 2023? Just moved into Suffolk from Vt. Heard good things about them. My son plays defense and/or LSM.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
C’mon stop it. Three clubs already announced tryouts. Do you really think there won’t be tryouts. That’s funny. And no players on the B teams will make any A teams, or they would be there already. You don’t really believe that any B team player is making the A team? You need a travel parent intervention. Be the best on the B team and enjoy that. Or go to some second tier club A team.
What 3 clubs have announced tryouts? I haven't seen any. Also, the best middie on the 2023 A team was on the B the team for multiple years. Things change...
FLG and Turtles to name a few. Tryouts are likely happening in my opinion. And they are mostly to fill out the 2nd and 3rd teams. The best talent usually gets added outside or before tryouts.
Bro, Turtles are good. Drop/replace a defender we are golden.
How many team do the have for 2023? Just moved into Suffolk from Vt. Heard good things about them. My son plays defense and/or LSM.
2023 will have as many teams as it can make, if they can make 3 to 4 teams, then Express will form them all
Thanks for the “all tourney films will be included”. I guess I did not read the fine print, this weekend is not included. The hits keep coming from this organization. Just honor your word. Always disappointed...SMH.
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Thanks for the “all tourney films will be included”. I guess I did not read the fine print, this weekend is not included. The hits keep coming from this organization. Just honor your word. Always disappointed...SMH.
Typical Express ! Say one thing and do another! I'm sure all CoachC teams games are filmed all the other teams are not important enough ! What a hack organization!!!
You are one of the chosen few or you are not. There have been multiple B team players in recent years who ended up D1 whereas the A teams were packed with some kids not playing at all in college. These clubs are all pretty much the same. It is all about the A team. FLG used to be great when they had 1 team per grade. Then they tried to conquer
Long Island. To me, Express and 91 are just two versions of the same broken model: (1) everyone subsidizes the A team, (2) the A team gets very advantage with practice time , top tournaments et, and (3) nobody cares about getting your kid recruited unless they are a starter on the A team. And that would all be fine, except year in and year out they miss kids....in a big time way. So if you think your kid can really play, support him. Find someone outside Express who knows the game to give you an honest assessment. If you have a 2022-2023 kid on the B team (or not playing on A) then gas up the car and open up the wallet because you are going to have to drive him all over to prospect days, and individual showcases if you want him recruited. Good luck (I'm glad this BS is now behind our family).
Long Island. To me, Express and 91 are just two versions of the same broken model: (1) everyone subsidizes the A team, (2) the A team gets very advantage with practice time , top tournaments et, and (3) nobody cares about getting your kid recruited unless they are a starter on the A team. And that would all be fine, except year in and year out they miss kids....in a big time way. So if you think your kid can really play, support him. Find someone outside Express who knows the game to give you an honest assessment. If you have a 2022-2023 kid on the B team (or not playing on A) then gas up the car and open up the wallet because you are going to have to drive him all over to prospect days, and individual showcases if you want him recruited. Good luck (I'm glad this BS is now behind our family).
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You are one of the chosen few or you are not. There have been multiple B team players in recent years who ended up D1 whereas the A teams were packed with some kids not playing at all in college. These clubs are all pretty much the same. It is all about the A team. FLG used to be great when they had 1 team per grade. Then they tried to conquer
Long Island. To me, Express and 91 are just two versions of the same broken model: (1) everyone subsidizes the A team, (2) the A team gets very advantage with practice time , top tournaments et, and (3) nobody cares about getting your kid recruited unless they are a starter on the A team. And that would all be fine, except year in and year out they miss kids....in a big time way. So if you think your kid can really play, support him. Find someone outside Express who knows the game to give you an honest assessment. If you have a 2022-2023 kid on the B team (or not playing on A) then gas up the car and open up the wallet because you are going to have to drive him all over to prospect days, and individual showcases if you want him recruited. Good luck (I'm glad this BS is now behind our family).
Long Island. To me, Express and 91 are just two versions of the same broken model: (1) everyone subsidizes the A team, (2) the A team gets very advantage with practice time , top tournaments et, and (3) nobody cares about getting your kid recruited unless they are a starter on the A team. And that would all be fine, except year in and year out they miss kids....in a big time way. So if you think your kid can really play, support him. Find someone outside Express who knows the game to give you an honest assessment. If you have a 2022-2023 kid on the B team (or not playing on A) then gas up the car and open up the wallet because you are going to have to drive him all over to prospect days, and individual showcases if you want him recruited. Good luck (I'm glad this BS is now behind our family).
No offense to any B kids or parents, but there is enough of a selection of offerings.... DO NOT do a B team. You get pooped on. Go to a lower tier club where your kid will get killed every week, but will at least play.
For the 2021 class Igloo, 91 and Express B teams have no D1 commits. Clubs such as Legacy and Rebels have a bunch of D1 Commits. So what you are saying appears true. One other thing that you missed, if Your kid plays on 91, Express or Igloo B teams and goes to a prospect camp and a college coach calls the club director about your kid, the odds are that the club director will tell the college coach that there are players on the top team who are much better. So your kid goes to a prospect camp and gets noticed and your club director is promoting an uncommitted kid on the A team. So what you are saying is true. Stay away from these big club B teams. College commits for all divisions are much better at some of the other clubs that are not the big three. I do disagree with you about FLG. I think the are good for recruiting and do have success given the talent they have to work with.
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You are one of the chosen few or you are not. There have been multiple B team players in recent years who ended up D1 whereas the A teams were packed with some kids not playing at all in college. These clubs are all pretty much the same. It is all about the A team. FLG used to be great when they had 1 team per grade. Then they tried to conquer
Long Island. To me, Express and 91 are just two versions of the same broken model: (1) everyone subsidizes the A team, (2) the A team gets very advantage with practice time , top tournaments et, and (3) nobody cares about getting your kid recruited unless they are a starter on the A team. And that would all be fine, except year in and year out they miss kids....in a big time way. So if you think your kid can really play, support him. Find someone outside Express who knows the game to give you an honest assessment. If you have a 2022-2023 kid on the B team (or not playing on A) then gas up the car and open up the wallet because you are going to have to drive him all over to prospect days, and individual showcases if you want him recruited. Good luck (I'm glad this BS is now behind our family).
Long Island. To me, Express and 91 are just two versions of the same broken model: (1) everyone subsidizes the A team, (2) the A team gets very advantage with practice time , top tournaments et, and (3) nobody cares about getting your kid recruited unless they are a starter on the A team. And that would all be fine, except year in and year out they miss kids....in a big time way. So if you think your kid can really play, support him. Find someone outside Express who knows the game to give you an honest assessment. If you have a 2022-2023 kid on the B team (or not playing on A) then gas up the car and open up the wallet because you are going to have to drive him all over to prospect days, and individual showcases if you want him recruited. Good luck (I'm glad this BS is now behind our family).
If you’re a B team parent the problem is coaches at team showcases are more likely watching the better teams. Or, and I have seen this, they see that the team uncompetitive and they’ll pick their up and find another game. You’re only hope is your sons B team develops like a 91 Ambush or United. But B team success is spotty as best,
I think the point people are trying to make is even if the B team develops into a decent team colleges don’t take them seriously. 91 Ambush is a perfect example. They are a decent B team and have no D1 commits. I have seen them play and they have one or two kids that can play D1 but probably won’t get the chance. Take that same team with the same players and put them on another club where they are the top team and those two D1 players they do have would get more looks and offers and maybe some more would get D1 offers too. The history of the 91 and Express B teams shows us very few D 1 commits and most go to schools people never heard of.
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I think the point people are trying to make is even if the B team develops into a decent team colleges don’t take them seriously. 91 Ambush is a perfect example. They are a decent B team and have no D1 commits. I have seen them play and they have one or two kids that can play D1 but probably won’t get the chance. Take that same team with the same players and put them on another club where they are the top team and those two D1 players they do have would get more looks and offers and maybe some more would get D1 offers too. The history of the 91 and Express B teams shows us very few D 1 commits and most go to schools people never heard of.
Sometimes, if not most, kids stack playing lacrosse over the career field. To me, it makes no sense gong to a top D1(unless you come from wealth) school only to play lacrosse and afterwards worry about what you will do to put food on the table.
Its unfortunate the there are no college coaches at the tournaments.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are one of the chosen few or you are not. There have been multiple B team players in recent years who ended up D1 whereas the A teams were packed with some kids not playing at all in college. These clubs are all pretty much the same. It is all about the A team. FLG used to be great when they had 1 team per grade. Then they tried to conquer
Long Island. To me, Express and 91 are just two versions of the same broken model: (1) everyone subsidizes the A team, (2) the A team gets very advantage with practice time , top tournaments et, and (3) nobody cares about getting your kid recruited unless they are a starter on the A team. And that would all be fine, except year in and year out they miss kids....in a big time way. So if you think your kid can really play, support him. Find someone outside Express who knows the game to give you an honest assessment. If you have a 2022-2023 kid on the B team (or not playing on A) then gas up the car and open up the wallet because you are going to have to drive him all over to prospect days, and individual showcases if you want him recruited. Good luck (I'm glad this BS is now behind our family).
Long Island. To me, Express and 91 are just two versions of the same broken model: (1) everyone subsidizes the A team, (2) the A team gets very advantage with practice time , top tournaments et, and (3) nobody cares about getting your kid recruited unless they are a starter on the A team. And that would all be fine, except year in and year out they miss kids....in a big time way. So if you think your kid can really play, support him. Find someone outside Express who knows the game to give you an honest assessment. If you have a 2022-2023 kid on the B team (or not playing on A) then gas up the car and open up the wallet because you are going to have to drive him all over to prospect days, and individual showcases if you want him recruited. Good luck (I'm glad this BS is now behind our family).
^^^^100% agree^^^^
This model is broken.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the point people are trying to make is even if the B team develops into a decent team colleges don’t take them seriously. 91 Ambush is a perfect example. They are a decent B team and have no D1 commits. I have seen them play and they have one or two kids that can play D1 but probably won’t get the chance. Take that same team with the same players and put them on another club where they are the top team and those two D1 players they do have would get more looks and offers and maybe some more would get D1 offers too. The history of the 91 and Express B teams shows us very few D 1 commits and most go to schools people never heard of.
Sometimes, if not most, kids stack playing lacrosse over the career field. To me, it makes no sense gong to a top D1(unless you come from wealth) school only to play lacrosse and afterwards worry about what you will do to put food on the table.
Most D1 lacrosse programs are very good on the academic side. Graduates do very well. There is no evidence that D1 players worry about putting food on the table more than a D2 or D3 player. In fact most D2 academics are not great. D3 academics range from top schools to terrible schools. For many D1 lacrosse gets these kids into much better schools than they would be able to get into without lacrosse. It is not uncommon to talk to a parent who has a kid that plays D2 or D3 and the first words they say are " My kid could play D1 but he does not to because....." People make choices for many reasons. Its fine. No need to explain why someone chose D2 or D3. Playing D1 lacrosse does not make the person. Nothing wrong with not playing D1 lacrosse. Many do choose not to. But it is misinformation to say that D1 graduates worry about putting food on the table so D1 is not a good choice. Going back to the topic on Express and 91 B teams - I doubt all of them choose D2 or D3 as part of a career decision. You should expect at least some to pick a D1 school if offered. Problem is these kids don't get that offer. Not saying they are not good enough. Just pointing out they are better off on another club A team if they do want a D1 opportunity or even a top academic school. Take a look at 2021 91 B (Ambush), Express B and Igloo B commits and compare them to legacy, Rebels and FLG commits and see which kids are going to better academic and lacrosse schools. It is not even close. You can find the information on each club web site, Inside lacrosse, Back of the cage commit section, Sports recruits or conneclax.
Is LI Express still hosting the Lax Clash/Tristar tournament on August 22nd-23rd??
When are tryouts?
Cancelled
35 kids on the roster at blatant.. Classic MC . Even during a pandemic you are a thief
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35 kids on the roster at blatant.. Classic MC . Even during a pandemic you are a thief
at blatant? try that's been happening for the whole season...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
35 kids on the roster at blatant.. Classic MC . Even during a pandemic you are a thief
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
35 kids on the roster at blatant.. Classic MC . Even during a pandemic you are a thief
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is LI Express still hosting the Lax Clash/Tristar tournament on August 22nd-23rd??
We were told it’s canceled per Express (I’m an Express parent)
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35 kids on the roster at blatant.. Classic MC . Even during a pandemic you are a thief
35+ kids at blatant, Long Ireland and Forsberg
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
35 kids on the roster at blatant.. Classic MC . Even during a pandemic you are a thief
35+ kids at blatant, Long Ireland and Forsberg
It’s the parents. They are fully aware, if they are not, then they deserve it. Haven’t you all realized how irrational lacrosse parents are?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
35 kids on the roster at blatant.. Classic MC . Even during a pandemic you are a thief
35+ kids at blatant, Long Ireland and Forsberg
It’s the parents. They are fully aware, if they are not, then they deserve it. Haven’t you all realized how irrational lacrosse parents are?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
35 kids on the roster at blatant.. Classic MC . Even during a pandemic you are a thief
I'm guessing 2024 based on the schedule
I think Express needs to stop trying to put out 2 teams at the 2022 age. You have one team that is very good and one team that is VERY bad! I understand its all about $$$$. Its crazy that people actually pay to be on the 2nd team because they are really bad. I saw them play yesterday in Glen Head it was embarrassing.
New player evals are free. Thx
My kid plays 2023 and every tournament there seems to be at least 2 different expresss teams and none of them are ever any good. How many express teams are there? there is express north,south,east, west,Dominican Republic,Siberia , pomp’s stomps etc. I think it would be better to invest in express lacrosse than amazon or google stock they way they are rolling out 3k dollar bills every tournament to get destroyed
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My kid plays 2023 and every tournament there seems to be at least 2 different expresss teams and none of them are ever any good. How many express teams are there? there is express north,south,east, west,Dominican Republic,Siberia , pomp’s stomps etc. I think it would be better to invest in express lacrosse than amazon or google stock they way they are rolling out 3k dollar bills every tournament to get destroyed
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My kid plays 2023 and every tournament there seems to be at least 2 different expresss teams and none of them are ever any good. How many express teams are there? there is express north,south,east, west,Dominican Republic,Siberia , pomp’s stomps etc. I think it would be better to invest in express lacrosse than amazon or google stock they way they are rolling out 3k dollar bills every tournament to get destroyed
So what’s yours point? You don’t like the club...or you just decided to be negative...okay...great. Everyone has a choice.
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I think Express needs to stop trying to put out 2 teams at the 2022 age. You have one team that is very good and one team that is VERY bad! I understand its all about $$$$. Its crazy that people actually pay to be on the 2nd team because they are really bad. I saw them play yesterday in Glen Head it was embarrassing.
Team is terrible. Half the team never attends any practices. Same half still can’t throw or catch. At least the money is green. Total joke....
Phenomenal business model. They figured out years ago you take every kid who shows up to tryouts. Brand marketing machine which allows for Easy start up in new markets. Plenty of ex players or coaches looking for extra money. Literally costs almost nothing to start another team or enter a new market. If you have access to fields anyone could do it. They have the play book.
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Phenomenal business model. They figured out years ago you take every kid who shows up to tryouts. Brand marketing machine which allows for Easy start up in new markets. Plenty of ex players or coaches looking for extra money. Literally costs almost nothing to start another team or enter a new market. If you have access to fields anyone could do it. They have the play book.
They constantly bashed on here but they don’t care. They are laughing all the way to the bank.
I guess this warrants a repeat of " you have choices ".....last time I checked there were many lacrosse clubs on long island . Why don't you use them instead of bashing clubs . Find one that you like . Does nobody any good to hear you mansplaining . And just for the record....if your son is on a bad team the writing is on the wall . Stop spending time and money on lacrosse perhaps hes better at something else . Or again..find a club that you like. Tired of hearing pathetic parents complain about certain clubs. The parents are the ones that fees the beast....you have choices
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Phenomenal business model. They figured out years ago you take every kid who shows up to tryouts. Brand marketing machine which allows for Easy start up in new markets. Plenty of ex players or coaches looking for extra money. Literally costs almost nothing to start another team or enter a new market. If you have access to fields anyone could do it. They have the play book.
They constantly bashed on here but they don’t care. They are laughing all the way to the bank.
Its not a charity, it's a business. Represents what is great about this country. Hustle, smarts can lead to millions of $s. Just like any other consumer facing business, you do the least possible to protect margins. As long as its working why change? I give those guys a lot of credit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Phenomenal business model. They figured out years ago you take every kid who shows up to tryouts. Brand marketing machine which allows for Easy start up in new markets. Plenty of ex players or coaches looking for extra money. Literally costs almost nothing to start another team or enter a new market. If you have access to fields anyone could do it. They have the play book.
They constantly bashed on here but they don’t care. They are laughing all the way to the bank.
Its not a charity, it's a business. Represents what is great about this country. Hustle, smarts can lead to millions of $s. Just like any other consumer facing business, you do the least possible to protect margins. As long as its working why change? I give those guys a lot of credit.
Definitely a “hustle”, pathetic its done with children!
Express has a lot to do with what town you live in and the depth of your pockets.
Anyone can get their kid on the “AA” but most kids get zero playing time.
The best play, the rest, including good players languish on the bottom of the “AA” or play for their terrible “B” team.
Anyone can get their kid on the “AA” but most kids get zero playing time.
The best play, the rest, including good players languish on the bottom of the “AA” or play for their terrible “B” team.
Again , you have options....Leave and go somewhere else, pretty simple.
So how many teams does express Long Island have at 2026?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
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So how many teams does express Long Island have at 2026?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
3 teams
AA & A maybe 40 between the 2 teams and the players switch between teams based on coaches decisions. B teams about 23 kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how many teams does express Long Island have at 2026?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
3 teams
AA & A maybe 40 between the 2 teams and the players switch between teams based on coaches decisions. B teams about 23 kids.
so the B team is really the C team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how many teams does express Long Island have at 2026?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
3 teams
AA & A maybe 40 between the 2 teams and the players switch between teams based on coaches decisions. B teams about 23 kids.
so the B team is really the C team
Call it what you want. It's the 3rd team...
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how many teams does express Long Island have at 2026?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
3 teams
AA & A maybe 40 between the 2 teams and the players switch between teams based on coaches decisions. B teams about 23 kids.
so the B team is really the C team
Call it what you want. It's the 3rd team...
AA = The A Team
A= The B Team
B= The C Team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how many teams does express Long Island have at 2026?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
3 teams
AA & A maybe 40 between the 2 teams and the players switch between teams based on coaches decisions. B teams about 23 kids.
so the B team is really the C team
Call it what you want. It's the 3rd team...
AA = The A Team
A= The B Team
B= The C Team
Or in reality, one very good team that gets all the attention, coaching and all year training for the same price as the 2 money generating teams which are just not good teams. The Express Way!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess this warrants a repeat of " you have choices ".....last time I checked there were many lacrosse clubs on long island . Why don't you use them instead of bashing clubs . Find one that you like . Does nobody any good to hear you mansplaining . And just for the record....if your son is on a bad team the writing is on the wall . Stop spending time and money on lacrosse perhaps hes better at something else . Or again..find a club that you like. Tired of hearing pathetic parents complain about certain clubs. The parents are the ones that fees the beast....you have choices
You do have choices.....until you get to high school. At that point, if you attend Chaminade or St. Anthony's, you leave at your own peril.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how many teams does express Long Island have at 2026?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
3 teams
AA & A maybe 40 between the 2 teams and the players switch between teams based on coaches decisions. B teams about 23 kids.
so the B team is really the C team
Call it what you want. It's the 3rd team...
AA = The A Team
A= The B Team
B= The C Team
Or in reality, one very good team that gets all the attention, coaching and all year training for the same price as the 2 money generating teams which are just not good teams. The Express Way!
All I know is the 2026 Express team of the kids that play is lights out. Saw them today and they very very impressive.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how many teams does express Long Island have at 2026?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
What would be the actual number of players for their AA team this year?
3 teams
AA & A maybe 40 between the 2 teams and the players switch between teams based on coaches decisions. B teams about 23 kids.
so the B team is really the C team
Call it what you want. It's the 3rd team...
AA = The A Team
A= The B Team
B= The C Team
Or in reality, one very good team that gets all the attention, coaching and all year training for the same price as the 2 money generating teams which are just not good teams. The Express Way!
They rolled right over every team at lax fest yesterday. I’d say they’re doing alright.
A quick question, how many teams does 2028 have and how many kids per each team?
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A quick question, how many teams does 2028 have and how many kids per each team?
Supposedly 2 teams. Kids jump back and forth between teams. Rosters never set and kids come onto teams throughout the year. Approximate 24-28 per team.
Thanks. So there is no A team and B team. Seems a bit confusing.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
A quick question, how many teams does 2028 have and how many kids per each team?
Supposedly 2 teams. Kids jump back and forth between teams. Rosters never set and kids come onto teams throughout the year. Approximate 24-28 per team.
Not this year.
How many teams does 2024 and 2025 have this year?
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How many teams does 2024 and 2025 have this year?
Email them and they’ll inform you.
OK. Emails came out. What's the difference between Orange and Black?
Black = AA, orange= A
Black =A, Orange =B
Did they take everyone from tryouts at 2026?
For 2024 CoachS AA
O’Reilly Orange A
O’Reilly Black B
O’Reilly Orange A
O’Reilly Black B
Respectfully, you are wasting your time if you are not on the top team. Find an organization where you can be on a team that will go to the premier tournaments so your kid can be seen. The older the kids get the harder it is to break into another top team, so don't wait. Express B teams tend to practice sporadically and go to lesser tournaments. Coaches and organization do not take it seriously. Bad combination. My kid is in college now. I was amazed when he was being recruited at just how dialed in the college coaches were to the travel club scene. They will 100% be hesitant about a kid that is supposedly a top player but isn't on the top Express team. It could all be political BS, but the optics are terrible and you can't have that issue out there if your kid is trying to get recruited.
And when things resume, hit individuals showcases as others have said. There is a massive misconception that recruiting all happens with the club. If you are a Top 100 player in the country and on a premier team that may be good enough. After that, you have to hit the individual showcases, shop your highlight tape, email coaches, go to prospect days/camps and basically just hustle.
Above all, don't put all your eggs in the Express basket or get ready to be disappointed.
Good luck!!
And when things resume, hit individuals showcases as others have said. There is a massive misconception that recruiting all happens with the club. If you are a Top 100 player in the country and on a premier team that may be good enough. After that, you have to hit the individual showcases, shop your highlight tape, email coaches, go to prospect days/camps and basically just hustle.
Above all, don't put all your eggs in the Express basket or get ready to be disappointed.
Good luck!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Respectfully, you are wasting your time if you are not on the top team. Find an organization where you can be on a team that will go to the premier tournaments so your kid can be seen. The older the kids get the harder it is to break into another top team, so don't wait. Express B teams tend to practice sporadically and go to lesser tournaments. Coaches and organization do not take it seriously. Bad combination. My kid is in college now. I was amazed when he was being recruited at just how dialed in the college coaches were to the travel club scene. They will 100% be hesitant about a kid that is supposedly a top player but isn't on the top Express team. It could all be political BS, but the optics are terrible and you can't have that issue out there if your kid is trying to get recruited.
And when things resume, hit individuals showcases as others have said. There is a massive misconception that recruiting all happens with the club. If you are a Top 100 player in the country and on a premier team that may be good enough. After that, you have to hit the individual showcases, shop your highlight tape, email coaches, go to prospect days/camps and basically just hustle.
Above all, don't put all your eggs in the Express basket or get ready to be disappointed.
Good luck!!
And when things resume, hit individuals showcases as others have said. There is a massive misconception that recruiting all happens with the club. If you are a Top 100 player in the country and on a premier team that may be good enough. After that, you have to hit the individual showcases, shop your highlight tape, email coaches, go to prospect days/camps and basically just hustle.
Above all, don't put all your eggs in the Express basket or get ready to be disappointed.
Good luck!!
From a guy who’s kid has been on the B team for couple years with a different club......I couldn’t agree more. My kid isn’t close to being recruited yet. But the B team is a waste of time and money with the bigger clubs. You are so much better off switching and playing for a “top team” of a different (smaller) club. What happened to us was classic bait and switch. “Your kid is really close to being brought up. We just want him to do one more year on the B team”. Don’t fall for it. These big clubs don’t give a garbage about the B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Respectfully, you are wasting your time if you are not on the top team. Find an organization where you can be on a team that will go to the premier tournaments so your kid can be seen. The older the kids get the harder it is to break into another top team, so don't wait. Express B teams tend to practice sporadically and go to lesser tournaments. Coaches and organization do not take it seriously. Bad combination. My kid is in college now. I was amazed when he was being recruited at just how dialed in the college coaches were to the travel club scene. They will 100% be hesitant about a kid that is supposedly a top player but isn't on the top Express team. It could all be political BS, but the optics are terrible and you can't have that issue out there if your kid is trying to get recruited.
And when things resume, hit individuals showcases as others have said. There is a massive misconception that recruiting all happens with the club. If you are a Top 100 player in the country and on a premier team that may be good enough. After that, you have to hit the individual showcases, shop your highlight tape, email coaches, go to prospect days/camps and basically just hustle.
Above all, don't put all your eggs in the Express basket or get ready to be disappointed.
Good luck!!
And when things resume, hit individuals showcases as others have said. There is a massive misconception that recruiting all happens with the club. If you are a Top 100 player in the country and on a premier team that may be good enough. After that, you have to hit the individual showcases, shop your highlight tape, email coaches, go to prospect days/camps and basically just hustle.
Above all, don't put all your eggs in the Express basket or get ready to be disappointed.
Good luck!!
From a guy who’s kid has been on the B team for couple years with a different club......I couldn’t agree more. My kid isn’t close to being recruited yet. But the B team is a waste of time and money with the bigger clubs. You are so much better off switching and playing for a “top team” of a different (smaller) club. What happened to us was classic bait and switch. “Your kid is really close to being brought up. We just want him to do one more year on the B team”. Don’t fall for it. These big clubs don’t give a garbage about the B team.
B team issues is 100% on the parents. They don’t fully commit to these teams and show up to practice sporadically. And the better ones think they belong on A team and won’t play B. The point is get the right mix of dedicated families it will be fine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Respectfully, you are wasting your time if you are not on the top team. Find an organization where you can be on a team that will go to the premier tournaments so your kid can be seen. The older the kids get the harder it is to break into another top team, so don't wait. Express B teams tend to practice sporadically and go to lesser tournaments. Coaches and organization do not take it seriously. Bad combination. My kid is in college now. I was amazed when he was being recruited at just how dialed in the college coaches were to the travel club scene. They will 100% be hesitant about a kid that is supposedly a top player but isn't on the top Express team. It could all be political BS, but the optics are terrible and you can't have that issue out there if your kid is trying to get recruited.
And when things resume, hit individuals showcases as others have said. There is a massive misconception that recruiting all happens with the club. If you are a Top 100 player in the country and on a premier team that may be good enough. After that, you have to hit the individual showcases, shop your highlight tape, email coaches, go to prospect days/camps and basically just hustle.
Above all, don't put all your eggs in the Express basket or get ready to be disappointed.
Good luck!!
And when things resume, hit individuals showcases as others have said. There is a massive misconception that recruiting all happens with the club. If you are a Top 100 player in the country and on a premier team that may be good enough. After that, you have to hit the individual showcases, shop your highlight tape, email coaches, go to prospect days/camps and basically just hustle.
Above all, don't put all your eggs in the Express basket or get ready to be disappointed.
Good luck!!
From a guy who’s kid has been on the B team for couple years with a different club......I couldn’t agree more. My kid isn’t close to being recruited yet. But the B team is a waste of time and money with the bigger clubs. You are so much better off switching and playing for a “top team” of a different (smaller) club. What happened to us was classic bait and switch. “Your kid is really close to being brought up. We just want him to do one more year on the B team”. Don’t fall for it. These big clubs don’t give a garbage about the B team.
B team issues is 100% on the parents. They don’t fully commit to these teams and show up to practice sporadically. And the better ones think they belong on A team and won’t play B. The point is get the right mix of dedicated families it will be fine.
You are very wrong to blame the parents. I lived it for several years with my kid and saw parents drop off but only after the season turned to garbage. When they saw the coaches didn’t have regular practices and signed up for lame tournaments, that is when parents stopped being their kids. It is a total cop out to put it all on the parents, though. Our B team coaches were lazy, arrogant and turned out a lame product. If the team went to Naptown, NLF, Black Card, etc. believe me every parent would have had their kid there.
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Respectfully, you are wasting your time if you are not on the top team. Find an organization where you can be on a team that will go to the premier tournaments so your kid can be seen. The older the kids get the harder it is to break into another top team, so don't wait. Express B teams tend to practice sporadically and go to lesser tournaments. Coaches and organization do not take it seriously. Bad combination. My kid is in college now. I was amazed when he was being recruited at just how dialed in the college coaches were to the travel club scene. They will 100% be hesitant about a kid that is supposedly a top player but isn't on the top Express team. It could all be political BS, but the optics are terrible and you can't have that issue out there if your kid is trying to get recruited.
And when things resume, hit individuals showcases as others have said. There is a massive misconception that recruiting all happens with the club. If you are a Top 100 player in the country and on a premier team that may be good enough. After that, you have to hit the individual showcases, shop your highlight tape, email coaches, go to prospect days/camps and basically just hustle.
Above all, don't put all your eggs in the Express basket or get ready to be disappointed.
Good luck!!
And when things resume, hit individuals showcases as others have said. There is a massive misconception that recruiting all happens with the club. If you are a Top 100 player in the country and on a premier team that may be good enough. After that, you have to hit the individual showcases, shop your highlight tape, email coaches, go to prospect days/camps and basically just hustle.
Above all, don't put all your eggs in the Express basket or get ready to be disappointed.
Good luck!!
From a guy who’s kid has been on the B team for couple years with a different club......I couldn’t agree more. My kid isn’t close to being recruited yet. But the B team is a waste of time and money with the bigger clubs. You are so much better off switching and playing for a “top team” of a different (smaller) club. What happened to us was classic bait and switch. “Your kid is really close to being brought up. We just want him to do one more year on the B team”. Don’t fall for it. These big clubs don’t give a garbage about the B team.
B team issues is 100% on the parents. They don’t fully commit to these teams and show up to practice sporadically. And the better ones think they belong on A team and won’t play B. The point is get the right mix of dedicated families it will be fine.
I think it’s pretty easy to blame the parents. This virus really exposed how much they don’t care about the B teams. Their A teams were loaded up with tourneys.....and the B teams barely had any at all.
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I think it’s pretty easy to blame the parents. This virus really exposed how much they don’t care about the B teams. Their A teams were loaded up with tourneys.....and the B teams barely had any at all.
I am not in LI and cannot speak directing to Express, but have been director of good sized club for years and can tell you in my experience parental support is not the reason B teams have issues. After the first few years of play (younger ages are a crapshoot), here is my honest assessment of our B team which I try and be as transparent as possible with our parents about. There are usually 1-3 kids I honestly see as borderline A and could easily move up, then another 1-2 who I don't see as A team potential but have some singular skill whether it be great speed, size, strength that doesn't currently translate but the type of player I've been wrong on in the past. After that, I tell parents that their boys are most likely going to be B team players unless something dramatic happens. The parental problems occur when that bottom 15-18 players parents don't belevie me yet stay with our club. I have been wrong on late bloomers of course as no one is perfect in assesment, but 95% of the time I know their kids lax skills better than they do. That being said, the bigger B team issue is when we have problems with weather, fields, tournaments, coaching etc. I have to serve my A team first. If there is one field available for a practice, the A team gets it. If an A team coach has to leave, I'll move up someone from B if that's what is best for the club. Those are me being a disservice to our B teams, but unfortunately that is life. My job is to run a club and supporting the A team first even at the expense of B at times is necessary to do my best job. I agree it stinks at times, but if you are on the A team at a smaller club you will also lose field time, coaches, players but just to another organization not your A team.
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I think it’s pretty easy to blame the parents. This virus really exposed how much they don’t care about the B teams. Their A teams were loaded up with tourneys.....and the B teams barely had any at all.
I am not in LI and cannot speak directing to Express, but have been director of good sized club for years and can tell you in my experience parental support is not the reason B teams have issues. After the first few years of play (younger ages are a crapshoot), here is my honest assessment of our B team which I try and be as transparent as possible with our parents about. There are usually 1-3 kids I honestly see as borderline A and could easily move up, then another 1-2 who I don't see as A team potential but have some singular skill whether it be great speed, size, strength that doesn't currently translate but the type of player I've been wrong on in the past. After that, I tell parents that their boys are most likely going to be B team players unless something dramatic happens. The parental problems occur when that bottom 15-18 players parents don't belevie me yet stay with our club. I have been wrong on late bloomers of course as no one is perfect in assesment, but 95% of the time I know their kids lax skills better than they do. That being said, the bigger B team issue is when we have problems with weather, fields, tournaments, coaching etc. I have to serve my A team first. If there is one field available for a practice, the A team gets it. If an A team coach has to leave, I'll move up someone from B if that's what is best for the club. Those are me being a disservice to our B teams, but unfortunately that is life. My job is to run a club and supporting the A team first even at the expense of B at times is necessary to do my best job. I agree it stinks at times, but if you are on the A team at a smaller club you will also lose field time, coaches, players but just to another organization not your A team.
Wow!!! You just basically admitted your a aell out not a coach. A coach is about being about the kids, not the organisation and its bottom line as far as profit. You take the same tuition from these B kids parents who look for the same opportunities for that payment for their kids for practices and tournaments (of course tournaments appropriate for the teans level of play). Yet you take there money and give them an inferior product and make them an after thought because as you say it's really all about the A team. And you are just robbing and lying to these B team parents. You $uck and you should be ashamed.
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I think it’s pretty easy to blame the parents. This virus really exposed how much they don’t care about the B teams. Their A teams were loaded up with tourneys.....and the B teams barely had any at all.
I am not in LI and cannot speak directing to Express, but have been director of good sized club for years and can tell you in my experience parental support is not the reason B teams have issues. After the first few years of play (younger ages are a crapshoot), here is my honest assessment of our B team which I try and be as transparent as possible with our parents about. There are usually 1-3 kids I honestly see as borderline A and could easily move up, then another 1-2 who I don't see as A team potential but have some singular skill whether it be great speed, size, strength that doesn't currently translate but the type of player I've been wrong on in the past. After that, I tell parents that their boys are most likely going to be B team players unless something dramatic happens. The parental problems occur when that bottom 15-18 players parents don't belevie me yet stay with our club. I have been wrong on late bloomers of course as no one is perfect in assesment, but 95% of the time I know their kids lax skills better than they do. That being said, the bigger B team issue is when we have problems with weather, fields, tournaments, coaching etc. I have to serve my A team first. If there is one field available for a practice, the A team gets it. If an A team coach has to leave, I'll move up someone from B if that's what is best for the club. Those are me being a disservice to our B teams, but unfortunately that is life. My job is to run a club and supporting the A team first even at the expense of B at times is necessary to do my best job. I agree it stinks at times, but if you are on the A team at a smaller club you will also lose field time, coaches, players but just to another organization not your A team.
So your basically admitting your giving people a [ChillLaxin] product and charging them a Laxx of money. You sound like a great guy. You basically admitted what we all have been complaining about. The B team gets [ChillLaxin] coaching, tournaments and all you care about is your A team. Thanks for validating our complaints. Some of us parents know our kids are B players and we are ok with it. All we want is a few dedicated coaches and a program that cares. We are often paying the same fee as the A team. But we are getting a far inferior product.
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So your basically admitting your giving people a [ChillLaxin] product and charging them a Laxx of money. You sound like a great guy. You basically admitted what we all have been complaining about. The B team gets [ChillLaxin] coaching, tournaments and all you care about is your A team. Thanks for validating our complaints. Some of us parents know our kids are B players and we are ok with it. All we want is a few dedicated coaches and a program that cares. We are often paying the same fee as the A team. But we are getting a far inferior product.
Our club does not charge both teams the same fee. It differs by age group but our A teams on averages charged about $2600 for 2019-2020 and B teams were close to $1900. It is impossible to offer the same product to both and cubs should charge accordingly. We rarely have an issues with dedication of coaches, but the more experienced coaches are definitely on the A levels and more focus on who want their sons to learn lax and/or improve, but focus on having fun and not get caught up in it too much at the B level. There is nothing wrong with loving to play the sport and not having the ability at this point to make an A team, that's what 80% of the B team should be...and charge less for.
The 2023 thread has a lot of info on how Express, 91 and Igloo B teams have a history of being unable to get kids to any D1 or decent schools including the 2021 class who have no D1 commits and very good players. It appears Flg, Legacy and Rebels are doing very well with 2021 recruiting. It is worth visiting the 2023 thread if you are interested in this topic and trying to decide if being on a clubs second team is worth it. It seems that it is not with a long history of recruiting failures.
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The 2023 thread has a lot of info on how Express, 91 and Igloo B teams have a history of being unable to get kids to any D1 or decent schools including the 2021 class who have no D1 commits and very good players. It appears Flg, Legacy and Rebels are doing very well with 2021 recruiting. It is worth visiting the 2023 thread if you are interested in this topic and trying to decide if being on a clubs second team is worth it. It seems that it is not with a long history of recruiting failures.
Is this MB poaching from the Rebels? We get a phone call every year asking to switch teams.
Are you saying kids on FLG & Rebels are going to good D1 schools over kids on Express 2nd team? That's a joke! I know kids who played on the Express 3rd team and play for decent D1 schools. FLG? Rebels? Ha! Maybe their top #1 kid, but other than that, nothing.
Rebels - it's too soon to tell. FLG kids do go to college to play lacrosse, there is no denying that.
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Are you saying kids on FLG & Rebels are going to good D1 schools over kids on Express 2nd team? That's a joke! I know kids who played on the Express 3rd team and play for decent D1 schools. FLG? Rebels? Ha! Maybe their top #1 kid, but other than that, nothing.
You are lying. Name one kid on express C team that went to a D I school
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Are you saying kids on FLG & Rebels are going to good D1 schools over kids on Express 2nd team? That's a joke! I know kids who played on the Express 3rd team and play for decent D1 schools. FLG? Rebels? Ha! Maybe their top #1 kid, but other than that, nothing.
2021 Express B team no d1, FLg and Rebels have many d1 commits. It all public information. Stop buying into Express B team gets D1 offers. Come on Express b has Zero to very few d1 every year. Go to inside lacrosse that reports the commits per club. If you don’t want to believe facts stay on Express b and your kid will go to a school no one ever heard of. Can’t argue with past history. Express c and b does not have d1 commits. Again look it up on inside lacrosse or many other places that reports commits.
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Are you saying kids on FLG & Rebels are going to good D1 schools over kids on Express 2nd team? That's a joke! I know kids who played on the Express 3rd team and play for decent D1 schools. FLG? Rebels? Ha! Maybe their top #1 kid, but other than that, nothing.
2021 Express B team no d1, FLg and Rebels have many d1 commits. It all public information. Stop buying into Express B team gets D1 offers. Come on Express b has Zero to very few d1 every year. Go to inside lacrosse that reports the commits per club. If you don’t want to believe facts stay on Express b and your kid will go to a school no one ever heard of. Can’t argue with past history. Express c and b does not have d1 commits. Again look it up on inside lacrosse or many other places that reports commits.
Can't believe what you read here so you do have to do research. If you do you may learn something. Many over the years have questioned is it worth going to a big club B team who has the best AA teams in the country or go to a club like the Rebels, FLG or Legacy who have good top teams and claim to be good at recruiting. One guy here claims Express B and C have D1 commits and claims Rebels and FLG have " maybe" one D1 commit. Sine many here are figuring out which clubs to tryout for, I went to each club web page and other places that report commits. I was shocked with what the truth was. For 2021 Express B, C, Igloo B and 91 B, all second and third teams for each club, had NO D1 players committed. FLG has four D1, Rebels have 6 D1 and and legacy has nine D1. Many top academic and lacrosse schools committed for FLG, Rebels and Legacy. All three have high academic D3 commits. 91 B has one high academic D3 commit but Express B, C and Igloo B have none. Since Express AA, Igloo AA and 91 AA have three of the best teams in the country for 2021 I decided to compare how FLG, Rebels and Legacy 2021 compare to top AA clubs in the country with recruiting. Looked at Inside Lacrosse for this info. Seems that Rebels and Legacy has similar numbers compared to other top AA teams in the country with D1 commits. FLG was a little behind. Seems like 6 or more D1 commits is a good showing for any 2021 team. This information is very helpful. Please check this out for yourself before you believe someone who has no facts to support claims that Express B and C have D1 commits and the other clubs have "maybe" one.
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Are you saying kids on FLG & Rebels are going to good D1 schools over kids on Express 2nd team? That's a joke! I know kids who played on the Express 3rd team and play for decent D1 schools. FLG? Rebels? Ha! Maybe their top #1 kid, but other than that, nothing.
2021 Express B team no d1, FLg and Rebels have many d1 commits. It all public information. Stop buying into Express B team gets D1 offers. Come on Express b has Zero to very few d1 every year. Go to inside lacrosse that reports the commits per club. If you don’t want to believe facts stay on Express b and your kid will go to a school no one ever heard of. Can’t argue with past history. Express c and b does not have d1 commits. Again look it up on inside lacrosse or many other places that reports commits.
Can't believe what you read here so you do have to do research. If you do you may learn something. Many over the years have questioned is it worth going to a big club B team who has the best AA teams in the country or go to a club like the Rebels, FLG or Legacy who have good top teams and claim to be good at recruiting. One guy here claims Express B and C have D1 commits and claims Rebels and FLG have " maybe" one D1 commit. Sine many here are figuring out which clubs to tryout for, I went to each club web page and other places that report commits. I was shocked with what the truth was. For 2021 Express B, C, Igloo B and 91 B, all second and third teams for each club, had NO D1 players committed. FLG has four D1, Rebels have 6 D1 and and legacy has nine D1. Many top academic and lacrosse schools committed for FLG, Rebels and Legacy. All three have high academic D3 commits. 91 B has one high academic D3 commit but Express B, C and Igloo B have none. Since Express AA, Igloo AA and 91 AA have three of the best teams in the country for 2021 I decided to compare how FLG, Rebels and Legacy 2021 compare to top AA clubs in the country with recruiting. Looked at Inside Lacrosse for this info. Seems that Rebels and Legacy has similar numbers compared to other top AA teams in the country with D1 commits. FLG was a little behind. Seems like 6 or more D1 commits is a good showing for any 2021 team. This information is very helpful. Please check this out for yourself before you believe someone who has no facts to support claims that Express B and C have D1 commits and the other clubs have "maybe" one.
Someone has a lot for free time on their hands. Or do I detect a lax director?
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Are you saying kids on FLG & Rebels are going to good D1 schools over kids on Express 2nd team? That's a joke! I know kids who played on the Express 3rd team and play for decent D1 schools. FLG? Rebels? Ha! Maybe their top #1 kid, but other than that, nothing.
2021 Express B team no d1, FLg and Rebels have many d1 commits. It all public information. Stop buying into Express B team gets D1 offers. Come on Express b has Zero to very few d1 every year. Go to inside lacrosse that reports the commits per club. If you don’t want to believe facts stay on Express b and your kid will go to a school no one ever heard of. Can’t argue with past history. Express c and b does not have d1 commits. Again look it up on inside lacrosse or many other places that reports commits.
Can't believe what you read here so you do have to do research. If you do you may learn something. Many over the years have questioned is it worth going to a big club B team who has the best AA teams in the country or go to a club like the Rebels, FLG or Legacy who have good top teams and claim to be good at recruiting. One guy here claims Express B and C have D1 commits and claims Rebels and FLG have " maybe" one D1 commit. Sine many here are figuring out which clubs to tryout for, I went to each club web page and other places that report commits. I was shocked with what the truth was. For 2021 Express B, C, Igloo B and 91 B, all second and third teams for each club, had NO D1 players committed. FLG has four D1, Rebels have 6 D1 and and legacy has nine D1. Many top academic and lacrosse schools committed for FLG, Rebels and Legacy. All three have high academic D3 commits. 91 B has one high academic D3 commit but Express B, C and Igloo B have none. Since Express AA, Igloo AA and 91 AA have three of the best teams in the country for 2021 I decided to compare how FLG, Rebels and Legacy 2021 compare to top AA clubs in the country with recruiting. Looked at Inside Lacrosse for this info. Seems that Rebels and Legacy has similar numbers compared to other top AA teams in the country with D1 commits. FLG was a little behind. Seems like 6 or more D1 commits is a good showing for any 2021 team. This information is very helpful. Please check this out for yourself before you believe someone who has no facts to support claims that Express B and C have D1 commits and the other clubs have "maybe" one.
Someone has a lot for free time on their hands. Or do I detect a lax director?
Or maybe it is someone who does not have a lot of time to waste going to an express try out so looked things up to save time. Maybe he/she is being nice and saving time for others showing express, igloo and 91 b teams have not produced d1 players over the years and flg, legacy and rebels have. I believe rebels director also produced a lot of d1 players when he was with the outlaws too. It does not matter the persons motives. It is the truth which can not be disputed. flg, rebels and legacy 2021 have done well recruiting 2021 d1 and express b and c have no d1. Even express best team has less recruited players than one would expect. Look it up if you have the time to do so.
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[quote=Anonymous]Are you saying kids on FLG & Rebels are going to good D1 schools over kids on Express 2nd team? That's a joke! I know kids who played on the Express 3rd team and play for decent D1 schools. FLG? Rebels? Ha! Maybe their top #1 kid, but other than that, nothing.
2021 Express B team no d1, FLg and Rebels have many d1 commits. It all public information. Stop buying into Express B team gets D1 offers. Come on Express b has Zero to very few d1 every year. Go to inside lacrosse that reports the commits per club. If you don’t want to believe facts stay on Express b and your kid will go to a school no one ever heard of. Can’t argue with past history. Express c and b does not have d1 commits. Again look it up on inside lacrosse or many other places that reports commits.
Can't believe what you read here so you do have to do research. If you do you may learn something. Many over the years have questioned is it worth going to a big club B team who has the best AA teams in the country or go to a club like the Rebels, FLG or Legacy who have good top teams and claim to be good at recruiting. One guy here claims Express B and C have D1 commits and claims Rebels and FLG have " maybe" one D1 commit. Sine many here are figuring out which clubs to tryout for, I went to each club web page and other places that report commits. I was shocked with what the truth was. For 2021 Express B, C, Igloo B and 91 B, all second and third teams for each club, had NO D1 players committed. FLG has four D1, Rebels have 6 D1 and and legacy has nine D1. Many top academic and lacrosse schools committed for FLG, Rebels and Legacy. All three have high academic D3 commits. 91 B has one high academic D3 commit but Express B, C and Igloo B have none. Since Express AA, Igloo AA and 91 AA have three of the best teams in the country for 2021 I decided to compare how FLG, Rebels and Legacy 2021 compare to top AA clubs in the country with recruiting. Looked at Inside Lacrosse for this info. Seems that Rebels and Legacy has similar numbers compared to other top AA teams in the country with D1 commits. FLG was a little behind. Seems like 6 or more D1 commits is a good showing for any 2021 team. This information is very helpful. Please check this out for yourself before you believe someone who has no facts to support claims that Express B and C have D1 commits and the other clubs have "maybe" one.
Someone has a lot for free time on their hands. Or do I detect a lax director?
Or maybe it is someone who does not have a lot of time to waste going to an express try out so looked things up to save time. Maybe he/she is being nice and saving time for others showing express, igloo and 91 b teams have not produced d1 players over the years and flg, legacy and rebels have. I believe rebels director also produced a lot of d1 players when he was with the outlaws too. It does not matter the persons motives. It is the truth which can not be disputed. flg, rebels and legacy 2021 have done well recruiting 2021 d1 and express b and c have no d1. Even expre
Express has better odds with 30 plus kids on the team when others carry 20 to 23 kids on a roster.
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[quote=Anonymous]Are you saying kids on FLG & Rebels are going to good D1 schools over kids on Express 2nd team? That's a joke! I know kids who played on the Express 3rd team and play for decent D1 schools. FLG? Rebels? Ha! Maybe their top #1 kid, but other than that, nothing.
2021 Express B team no d1, FLg and Rebels have many d1 commits. It all public information. Stop buying into Express B team gets D1 offers. Come on Express b has Zero to very few d1 every year. Go to inside lacrosse that reports the commits per club. If you don’t want to believe facts stay on Express b and your kid will go to a school no one ever heard of. Can’t argue with past history. Express c and b does not have d1 commits. Again look it up on inside lacrosse or many other places that reports commits.
Can't believe what you read here so you do have to do research. If you do you may learn something. Many over the years have questioned is it worth going to a big club B team who has the best AA teams in the country or go to a club like the Rebels, FLG or Legacy who have good top teams and claim to be good at recruiting. One guy here claims Express B and C have D1 commits and claims Rebels and FLG have " maybe" one D1 commit. Sine many here are figuring out which clubs to tryout for, I went to each club web page and other places that report commits. I was shocked with what the truth was. For 2021 Express B, C, Igloo B and 91 B, all second and third teams for each club, had NO D1 players committed. FLG has four D1, Rebels have 6 D1 and and legacy has nine D1. Many top academic and lacrosse schools committed for FLG, Rebels and Legacy. All three have high academic D3 commits. 91 B has one high academic D3 commit but Express B, C and Igloo B have none. Since Express AA, Igloo AA and 91 AA have three of the best teams in the country for 2021 I decided to compare how FLG, Rebels and Legacy 2021 compare to top AA clubs in the country with recruiting. Looked at Inside Lacrosse for this info. Seems that Rebels and Legacy has similar numbers compared to other top AA teams in the country with D1 commits. FLG was a little behind. Seems like 6 or more D1 commits is a good showing for any 2021 team. This information is very helpful. Please check this out for yourself before you believe someone who has no facts to support claims that Express B and C have D1 commits and the other clubs have "maybe" one.
Someone has a lot for free time on their hands. Or do I detect a lax director?
Or maybe it is someone who does not have a lot of time to waste going to an express try out so looked things up to save time. Maybe he/she is being nice and saving time for others showing express, igloo and 91 b teams have not produced d1 players over the years and flg, legacy and rebels have. I believe rebels director also produced a lot of d1 players when he was with the outlaws too. It does not matter the persons motives. It is the truth which can not be disputed. flg, rebels and legacy 2021 have done well recruiting 2021 d1 and express b and c have no d1. Even expre
Express has better odds with 30 plus kids on the team when others carry 20 to 23 kids on a roster.
Great point. Express has at least 50 players for 2021 and only have 13 commits for 2021 all from the AA team. Legacy has 20 players and 9 D1 and Rebels have 17 players and 6 or 7 D1 commits. Percentage wise Express behind both these clubs. It is amazing how parents year after year keep going to Express spend $30k in total and most don't get to play college lax. They spend 30k over 10 years based on the word of a salesman telling them there kid will play D1 or college lacrosse without checking what Express has produced over the years. It does not matter They will all go back to express this year because their kid will be the exception and play D1. Most from express do not.
They also like to dangle St. Anthony's over peoples head
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They also like to dangle St. Anthony's over peoples head
In what way?
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[quote=Anonymous]Are you saying kids on FLG & Rebels are going to good D1 schools over kids on Express 2nd team? That's a joke! I know kids who played on the Express 3rd team and play for decent D1 schools. FLG? Rebels? Ha! Maybe their top #1 kid, but other than that, nothing.
2021 Express B team no d1, FLg and Rebels have many d1 commits. It all public information. Stop buying into Express B team gets D1 offers. Come on Express b has Zero to very few d1 every year. Go to inside lacrosse that reports the commits per club. If you don’t want to believe facts stay on Express b and your kid will go to a school no one ever heard of. Can’t argue with past history. Express c and b does not have d1 commits. Again look it up on inside lacrosse or many other places that reports commits.
Can't believe what you read here so you do have to do research. If you do you may learn something. Many over the years have questioned is it worth going to a big club B team who has the best AA teams in the country or go to a club like the Rebels, FLG or Legacy who have good top teams and claim to be good at recruiting. One guy here claims Express B and C have D1 commits and claims Rebels and FLG have " maybe" one D1 commit. Sine many here are figuring out which clubs to tryout for, I went to each club web page and other places that report commits. I was shocked with what the truth was. For 2021 Express B, C, Igloo B and 91 B, all second and third teams for each club, had NO D1 players committed. FLG has four D1, Rebels have 6 D1 and and legacy has nine D1. Many top academic and lacrosse schools committed for FLG, Rebels and Legacy. All three have high academic D3 commits. 91 B has one high academic D3 commit but Express B, C and Igloo B have none. Since Express AA, Igloo AA and 91 AA have three of the best teams in the country for 2021 I decided to compare how FLG, Rebels and Legacy 2021 compare to top AA clubs in the country with recruiting. Looked at Inside Lacrosse for this info. Seems that Rebels and Legacy has similar numbers compared to other top AA teams in the country with D1 commits. FLG was a little behind. Seems like 6 or more D1 commits is a good showing for any 2021 team. This information is very helpful. Please check this out for yourself before you believe someone who has no facts to support claims that Express B and C have D1 commits and the other clubs have "maybe" one.
Someone has a lot for free time on their hands. Or do I detect a lax director?
Or maybe it is someone who does not have a lot of time to waste going to an express try out so looked things up to save time. Maybe he/she is being nice and saving time for others showing express, igloo and 91 b teams have not produced d1 players over the years and flg, legacy and rebels have. I believe rebels director also produced a lot of d1 players when he was with the outlaws too. It does not matter the persons motives. It is the truth which can not be disputed. flg, rebels and legacy 2021 have done well recruiting 2021 d1 and express b and c have no d1. Even expre
Express has better odds with 30 plus kids on the team when others carry 20 to 23 kids on a roster.
Great point. Express has at least 50 players for 2021 and only have 13 commits for 2021 all from the AA team. Legacy has 20 players and 9 D1 and Rebels have 17 players and 6 or 7 D1 commits. Percentage wise Express behind both these clubs. It is amazing how parents year after year keep going to Express spend $30k in total and most don't get to play college lax. They spend 30k over 10 years based on the word of a salesman telling them there kid will play D1 or college lacrosse without checking what Express has produced over the years. It does not matter They will all go back to express this year because their kid will be the exception and play D1. Most from express do not.
Can you put your findings in an Exel spreadsheet? Thanks!
Express is a well run team and organization. That being said they DO NOT give any thought to their 2nd teams period! I am proof of that, I wasted money being on the 2nd team and my kid got zero out of it! Half the kids can't throw and catch it actually pathetic that they tell you that you will be on a competitive team when its actually hard to watch week in and week out!
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Express is a well run team and organization. That being said they DO NOT give any thought to their 2nd teams period! I am proof of that, I wasted money being on the 2nd team and my kid got zero out of it! Half the kids can't throw and catch it actually pathetic that they tell you that you will be on a competitive team when its actually hard to watch week in and week out!
Not the same for all teams / grades
Some years, maybe, but not all years. Some years 2nd team is very good. Gotta know what you are getting into.
Even if you think you have a good 2nd team, you quickly find out they only care about their select core group. I already saw this with our team. Now questioning if we made the right decision after promises were made.
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Even if you think you have a good 2nd team, you quickly find out they only care about their select core group. I already saw this with our team. Now questioning if we made the right decision after promises were made.
That is the truth, usually its too late! There are so many good teams out there , that there is no need to pay for a 2nd weak team unless you enjoy being screwed by CoachC and Express !
It's amazing how people to not do their homework before joining a team.
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Some years, maybe, but not all years. Some years 2nd team is very good. Gotta know what you are getting into.
It does not matter how good second team is on a club. It is rare that they get recruited to play at a good academic school or decent lacrosse school from the second team. Maybe if lucky will get a decent academic D3. Forget about going D1 from second club team. Every few years one may go D1 from all second teams combined. Just look at the history of where they wind up. Not good.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express is a well run team and organization. That being said they DO NOT give any thought to their 2nd teams period! I am proof of that, I wasted money being on the 2nd team and my kid got zero out of it! Half the kids can't throw and catch it actually pathetic that they tell you that you will be on a competitive team when its actually hard to watch week in and week out!
Not the same for all teams / grades
Maybe but as the years go on, the 2nd teams on Express get worse. Basically due to the total lack of attention by Express directors, followed by frustrated parents and players and finally implosion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express is a well run team and organization. That being said they DO NOT give any thought to their 2nd teams period! I am proof of that, I wasted money being on the 2nd team and my kid got zero out of it! Half the kids can't throw and catch it actually pathetic that they tell you that you will be on a competitive team when its actually hard to watch week in and week out!
Not the same for all teams / grades
Maybe but as the years go on, the 2nd teams on Express get worse. Basically due to the total lack of attention by Express directors, followed by frustrated parents and players and finally implosion.
The issue is that kids that should be on the B team, are usually lower tier type players on clubs and they opt for an A team like S2S, True Blue or The Turtles vs the B team at an Express or 91. This was not the case 4 or 5 years ago, but with so many clubs, there is “A” team for everyone. It’s why we have the AA naming convention. In theory B teams at Express and 91 and few other big clubs should be fringe A teams, but parents gravitate towards A teams because sometimes B teams can be after thoughts. But there are several B teams that great all around. Point is, do your research and check things out and don’t run blindly towards the light.
When will Express start the season? Are they practicing already?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express is a well run team and organization. That being said they DO NOT give any thought to their 2nd teams period! I am proof of that, I wasted money being on the 2nd team and my kid got zero out of it! Half the kids can't throw and catch it actually pathetic that they tell you that you will be on a competitive team when its actually hard to watch week in and week out!
Not the same for all teams / grades
Maybe but as the years go on, the 2nd teams on Express get worse. Basically due to the total lack of attention by Express directors, followed by frustrated parents and players and finally implosion.
The issue is that kids that should be on the B team, are usually lower tier type players on clubs and they opt for an A team like S2S, True Blue or The Turtles vs the B team at an Express or 91. This was not the case 4 or 5 years ago, but with so many clubs, there is “A” team for everyone. It’s why we have the AA naming convention. In theory B teams at Express and 91 and few other big clubs should be fringe A teams, but parents gravitate towards A teams because sometimes B teams can be after thoughts. But there are several B teams that great all around. Point is, do your research and check things out and don’t run blindly towards the light.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Express is a well run team and organization. That being said they DO NOT give any thought to their 2nd teams period! I am proof of that, I wasted money being on the 2nd team and my kid got zero out of it! Half the kids can't throw and catch it actually pathetic that they tell you that you will be on a competitive team when its actually hard to watch week in and week out!
Not the same for all teams / grades
Maybe but as the years go on, the 2nd teams on Express get worse. Basically due to the total lack of attention by Express directors, followed by frustrated parents and players and finally implosion.
The issue is that kids that should be on the B team, are usually lower tier type players on clubs and they opt for an A team like S2S, True Blue or The Turtles vs the B team at an Express or 91. This was not the case 4 or 5 years ago, but with so many clubs, there is “A” team for everyone. It’s why we have the AA naming convention. In theory B teams at Express and 91 and few other big clubs should be fringe A teams, but parents gravitate towards A teams because sometimes B teams can be after thoughts. But there are several B teams that great all around. Point is, do your research and check things out and don’t run blindly towards the light.
The bottom 10 kids on Express AA can not make a top lacrosse team. The best teams have a great core of around 8 kids. After that the next 4-5 are D1 Level. After player 12 those kids on AA teams struggle to find a D1 spot. Only the best of the best teams have multiplayer D1 commits after the 12 best.
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When will Express start the season? Are they practicing already?
This week
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
When will Express start the season? Are they practicing already?
This week
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When will Express start the season? Are they practicing already?
This week
You gotta give the guy credit he gets right back at it.
What does everyone think of the 2026 practice? That's quite a pool of kids to pick from.
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What does everyone think of the 2026 practice? That's quite a pool of kids to pick from.
It's 3 teams practicing together right? Around 55 kids from what i'm told.
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What does everyone think of the 2026 practice? That's quite a pool of kids to pick from.
Hoping they divide the kids into 3 teams sooner vs later.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What does everyone think of the 2026 practice? That's quite a pool of kids to pick from.
It's 3 teams practicing together right? Around 55 kids from what i'm told.
it's over 60
Agreed .....by now they should be able to see who belongs on each team . Let these kids practice with who they will be playing with so they can get the chemistry going . Will only make them stronger as a team if they practice as a team .
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Agreed .....by now they should be able to see who belongs on each team . Let these kids practice with who they will be playing with so they can get the chemistry going . Will only make them stronger as a team if they practice as a team .
100% agree
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed .....by now they should be able to see who belongs on each team . Let these kids practice with who they will be playing with so they can get the chemistry going . Will only make them stronger as a team if they practice as a team .
100% agree
Do you think we will lose again this year to the Hawks, LXC, Tigers, BBL, FCA? Do we have a chance against Sweetlax, Eclipse, Edge, Tommy Knockers, Cannons when we play them?
At NAL this summer the organizers “hid” LIE from the elite teams by placing them in a division where they avoided Tigers, Sweet Lax, Hawks, Primetime and Towermen. Despite this effort to pad the way, LIE lost to MD based FCA in their last game. Sure you have a chance but the odds are not in your favor.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed .....by now they should be able to see who belongs on each team . Let these kids practice with who they will be playing with so they can get the chemistry going . Will only make them stronger as a team if they practice as a team .
100% agree
Never happening. It actually takes the parents to initiate. And you know the mindset isn’t conditioned to think like that. This is how 2nd tier clubs turn into decent A teams. The pattern has been ride the bench, finally see the light. And those 2nd tier clubs all turn out decent teams by the time they get to HS.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed .....by now they should be able to see who belongs on each team . Let these kids practice with who they will be playing with so they can get the chemistry going . Will only make them stronger as a team if they practice as a team .
100% agree
Do you think we will lose again this year to the Hawks, LXC, Tigers, BBL, FCA? Do we have a chance against Sweetlax, Eclipse, Edge, Tommy Knockers, Cannons when we play them?
The post confirms exactly how much room we own in your tiny head Hawks dad. Let's compare rosters and birth dates. If we combined 25's & 26's like your teams do our boys would smoke yours.
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At NAL this summer the organizers “hid” LIE from the elite teams by placing them in a division where they avoided Tigers, Sweet Lax, Hawks, Primetime and Towermen. Despite this effort to pad the way, LIE lost to MD based FCA in their last game. Sure you have a chance but the odds are not in your favor.
Come on Long Island...we can't play in b divisions! We have to play in the a divisions against the best. My son was really upset this summer that we did this.
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What does everyone think of the 2026 practice? That's quite a pool of kids to pick from.
Hoping they divide the kids into 3 teams sooner vs later.
Looks like you got your wish
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What does everyone think of the 2026 practice? That's quite a pool of kids to pick from.
Hoping they divide the kids into 3 teams sooner vs later.
Looks like you got your wish
Is CoachC coaching a 2026 team?
Did they separate the 2026 team?
How did the Express play day in NJ go today? I know there were 2025 and 2026 teams there. Any other grades? Team look OK?
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How did the Express play day in NJ go today? I know there were 2025 and 2026 teams there. Any other grades? Team look OK?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What does everyone think of the 2026 practice? That's quite a pool of kids to pick from.
Hoping they divide the kids into 3 teams sooner vs later.
Looks like you got your wish
Is CoachC coaching a 2026 team?
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Did they separate the 2026 team?
Partially. C took his group of 25+ kids. There's a 2nd group that will be broken down more. It needs to.
I watched the 2024 North team. Huge team. Very fast and athletic. Had to be there top team because they looked impressive.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did they separate the 2026 team?
Partially. C took his group of 25+ kids. There's a 2nd group that will be broken down more. It needs to.
So did the Coach C's squad look?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did they separate the 2026 team?
Partially. C took his group of 25+ kids. There's a 2nd group that will be broken down more. It needs to.
So did the Coach C's squad look?
Still have some work to do, but they looked solid 2-0.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did they separate the 2026 team?
Partially. C took his group of 25+ kids. There's a 2nd group that will be broken down more. It needs to.
So did the Coach C's squad look?
Still have some work to do, but they looked solid 2-0.
3-0
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did they separate the 2026 team?
Partially. C took his group of 25+ kids. There's a 2nd group that will be broken down more. It needs to.
So did the Coach C's squad look?
Still have some work to do, but they looked solid 2-0.
3-0
Weird because I thought they only played 2 games.
So did the Coach C's squad look?[/quote]
Still have some work to do, but they looked solid 2-0.[/quote]
3-0[/quote]
What were the scores and against?
Still have some work to do, but they looked solid 2-0.[/quote]
3-0[/quote]
What were the scores and against?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did they separate the 2026 team?
Partially. C took his group of 25+ kids. There's a 2nd group that will be broken down more. It needs to.
So did the Coach C's squad look?
Still have some work to do, but they looked solid 2-0.
3-0
Weird because I thought they only played 2 games.
That’s how good they were
Still have some work to do, but they looked solid 2-0.[/quote]
3-0[/quote]
Weird because I thought they only played 2 games.[/quote]
That’s how good they were[/quote]
Scores and against who?
3-0[/quote]
Weird because I thought they only played 2 games.[/quote]
That’s how good they were[/quote]
Scores and against who?
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Still have some work to do, but they looked solid 2-0.
3-0[/quote]
Weird because I thought they only played 2 games.[/quote]
That’s how good they were[/quote]
Scores and against who?[/quote]
I heard they beat Express North by 1. Their FOGO was a beast and supposedly the better FOGO was injured!!
Lets just say what we are all thinking !, CoachC's team has lost key players and some who committed that aren't willing to risk injury. They are coming back to reality and are vulnerable now !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed .....by now they should be able to see who belongs on each team . Let these kids practice with who they will be playing with so they can get the chemistry going . Will only make them stronger as a team if they practice as a team .
100% agree
Do you think we will lose again this year to the Hawks, LXC, Tigers, BBL, FCA? Do we have a chance against Sweetlax, Eclipse, Edge, Tommy Knockers, Cannons when we play them?
The post confirms exactly how much room we own in your tiny head Hawks dad. Let's compare rosters and birth dates. If we combined 25's & 26's like your teams do our boys would smoke yours.
Hawks claim to be playing in the WSYL. If so I guess we'll see who their holdbacks are.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed .....by now they should be able to see who belongs on each team . Let these kids practice with who they will be playing with so they can get the chemistry going . Will only make them stronger as a team if they practice as a team .
100% agree
Do you think we will lose again this year to the Hawks, LXC, Tigers, BBL, FCA? Do we have a chance against Sweetlax, Eclipse, Edge, Tommy Knockers, Cannons when we play them?
The post confirms exactly how much room we own in your tiny head Hawks dad. Let's compare rosters and birth dates. If we combined 25's & 26's like your teams do our boys would smoke yours.
Hawks claim to be playing in the WSYL. If so I guess we'll see who their holdbacks are.
👌😂🤣
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Lets just say what we are all thinking !, CoachC's team has lost key players and some who committed that aren't willing to risk injury. They are coming back to reality and are vulnerable now !
They always were vulnerable ! They consist of 3 players and if any of those players are out they lose !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed .....by now they should be able to see who belongs on each team . Let these kids practice with who they will be playing with so they can get the chemistry going . Will only make them stronger as a team if they practice as a team .
100% agree
Do you think we will lose again this year to the Hawks, LXC, Tigers, BBL, FCA? Do we have a chance against Sweetlax, Eclipse, Edge, Tommy Knockers, Cannons when we play them?
The post confirms exactly how much room we own in your tiny head Hawks dad. Let's compare rosters and birth dates. If we combined 25's & 26's like your teams do our boys would smoke yours.
Hawks claim to be playing in the WSYL. If so I guess we'll see who their holdbacks are.
👌😂🤣
This has been answered like 50 times. Hawks will be there minus 4 kids. Back up attackman, back up middie, one d pole and the huge attackman that was added last year. Unfortunately the huge middie and huge attackman are on age as are the rest. And I would imagine any on age kid that is dominant and looking for a team might be ringing their coaches number as a replacement. Good Day To You
100% agree[/quote]
Do you think we will lose again this year to the Hawks, LXC, Tigers, BBL, FCA? Do we have a chance against Sweetlax, Eclipse, Edge, Tommy Knockers, Cannons when we play them?[/quote]
The post confirms exactly how much room we own in your tiny head Hawks dad. Let's compare rosters and birth dates. If we combined 25's & 26's like your teams do our boys would smoke yours.[/quote]
Hawks claim to be playing in the WSYL. If so I guess we'll see who their holdbacks are.[/quote]
👌😂🤣[/quote]
This has been answered like 50 times. Hawks will be there minus 4 kids. Back up attackman, back up middie, one d pole and the huge attackman that was added last year. Unfortunately the huge middie and huge attackman are on age as are the rest. And I would imagine any on age kid that is dominant and looking for a team might be ringing their coaches number as a replacement. Good Day To You[/quote]
Adding more players for the WSYL will challenge the team chemistry. LI Express will be ready for them.
Do you think we will lose again this year to the Hawks, LXC, Tigers, BBL, FCA? Do we have a chance against Sweetlax, Eclipse, Edge, Tommy Knockers, Cannons when we play them?[/quote]
The post confirms exactly how much room we own in your tiny head Hawks dad. Let's compare rosters and birth dates. If we combined 25's & 26's like your teams do our boys would smoke yours.[/quote]
Hawks claim to be playing in the WSYL. If so I guess we'll see who their holdbacks are.[/quote]
👌😂🤣[/quote]
This has been answered like 50 times. Hawks will be there minus 4 kids. Back up attackman, back up middie, one d pole and the huge attackman that was added last year. Unfortunately the huge middie and huge attackman are on age as are the rest. And I would imagine any on age kid that is dominant and looking for a team might be ringing their coaches number as a replacement. Good Day To You[/quote]
Adding more players for the WSYL will challenge the team chemistry. LI Express will be ready for them.
Hawks claim to be playing in the WSYL. If so I guess we'll see who their holdbacks are.[/quote]
👌😂🤣[/quote]
This has been answered like 50 times. Hawks will be there minus 4 kids. Back up attackman, back up middie, one d pole and the huge attackman that was added last year. Unfortunately the huge middie and huge attackman are on age as are the rest. And I would imagine any on age kid that is dominant and looking for a team might be ringing their coaches number as a replacement. Good Day To You[/quote]
Adding more players for the WSYL will challenge the team chemistry. LI Express will be ready for them.[/quote]
Team chemistry? Arent LIEs kids mostly imports for the event?
👌😂🤣[/quote]
This has been answered like 50 times. Hawks will be there minus 4 kids. Back up attackman, back up middie, one d pole and the huge attackman that was added last year. Unfortunately the huge middie and huge attackman are on age as are the rest. And I would imagine any on age kid that is dominant and looking for a team might be ringing their coaches number as a replacement. Good Day To You[/quote]
Adding more players for the WSYL will challenge the team chemistry. LI Express will be ready for them.[/quote]
Team chemistry? Arent LIEs kids mostly imports for the event?
So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
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So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
I'm sure he sleeps just fine at night.
That team should have never been placed in that tourney. Level of play is too high for a B team.
Little to no thought ever goes into what tourneys would be good for 2nd teams in Express.
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So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
How does he charge for the back half of his own team for that matter?
They sit on the sidelines in the rain.
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I watched the 2024 North team. Huge team. Very fast and athletic. Had to be there top team because they looked impressive.
What is wrong with Schwalije's 2024 team?
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So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
Did you see how many kids were on that team!!!! Crazy thing is they have a 3rd team. I can only imagine what that team looks like.
He charges for that because parents will pay. Some parents are so wealthy, some are crazy. Either way they pay. If you were selling your house for 700 grand and a buyer offered you 800 grand, what would you do? I’d take the extra 100 grand. I’m not saying I only want 700 grand. If someone is willing to pay it, I’ll take it. It’s the same concept. It sounds like a better job than I have. Taking a train to the city every morning, catching a subway, wearing a suit, home 8pm at night, exhausted.
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So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
Did you see how many kids were on that team!!!! Crazy thing is they have a 3rd team. I can only imagine what that team looks like.
It really is sad. These parents pay thousands for their kids to play which is fine. Express leads them to believe that they are on a good team when CoachC takes 40 of the best for his team then leaves the scraps for the rest of the teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
Did you see how many kids were on that team!!!! Crazy thing is they have a 3rd team. I can only imagine what that team looks like.
It really is sad. These parents pay thousands for their kids to play which is fine. Express leads them to believe that they are on a good team when CoachC takes 40 of the best for his team then leaves the scraps for the rest of the teams.
instead of complaining about it, compete!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
Did you see how many kids were on that team!!!! Crazy thing is they have a 3rd team. I can only imagine what that team looks like.
It really is sad. These parents pay thousands for their kids to play which is fine. Express leads them to believe that they are on a good team when CoachC takes 40 of the best for his team then leaves the scraps for the rest of the teams.
instead of complaining about it, compete!
They can't compete against much more talented teams, as you saw this past weekend. Don't know who to blame but put the kids in the correct division and give them a fighting chance !
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
Did you see how many kids were on that team!!!! Crazy thing is they have a 3rd team. I can only imagine what that team looks like.
It really is sad. These parents pay thousands for their kids to play which is fine. Express leads them to believe that they are on a good team when CoachC takes 40 of the best for his team then leaves the scraps for the rest of the teams.
The lower 1/3 of CoachC’s is nowhere near the best out there. Want your kid on his team , just ask and you are on it. You kid won’t see the field but you can say your boy is on the team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
Did you see how many kids were on that team!!!! Crazy thing is they have a 3rd team. I can only imagine what that team looks like.
It really is sad. These parents pay thousands for their kids to play which is fine. Express leads them to believe that they are on a good team when CoachC takes 40 of the best for his team then leaves the scraps for the rest of the teams.
The lower 1/3 of CoachC’s is nowhere near the best out there. Want your kid on his team , just ask and you are on it. You kid won’t see the field but you can say your boy is on the team.
This is the same for his 2025 & 2026 teams as well. You're on the team but you won't see the field.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
Did you see how many kids were on that team!!!! Crazy thing is they have a 3rd team. I can only imagine what that team looks like.
It really is sad. These parents pay thousands for their kids to play which is fine. Express leads them to believe that they are on a good team when CoachC takes 40 of the best for his team then leaves the scraps for the rest of the teams.
The lower 1/3 of CoachC’s is nowhere near the best out there. Want your kid on his team , just ask and you are on it. You kid won’t see the field but you can say your boy is on the team.
This is the same for his 2025 & 2026 teams as well. You're on the team but you won't see the field.
It's sad and the guy does nothing to coach the kids. he hires good coaches for his teams and again the other teams get the scraps, people are crazy to keep worshiping this guy????????
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So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
Did you see how many kids were on that team!!!! Crazy thing is they have a 3rd team. I can only imagine what that team looks like.
It really is sad. These parents pay thousands for their kids to play which is fine. Express leads them to believe that they are on a good team when CoachC takes 40 of the best for his team then leaves the scraps for the rest of the teams.
The lower 1/3 of CoachC’s is nowhere near the best out there. Want your kid on his team , just ask and you are on it. You kid won’t see the field but you can say your boy is on the team.
This is the same for his 2025 & 2026 teams as well. You're on the team but you won't see the field.
It's sad and the guy does nothing to coach the kids. he hires good coaches for his teams and again the other teams get the scraps, people are crazy to keep worshiping this guy????????
I disagree. He's at every one of his teams practices and games. 2022, 2025 & 2026. Back on topic though... The lower 1/3 of those teams do not play and apparently some kids/parents are cool with that.
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So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
Did you see how many kids were on that team!!!! Crazy thing is they have a 3rd team. I can only imagine what that team looks like.
It really is sad. These parents pay thousands for their kids to play which is fine. Express leads them to believe that they are on a good team when CoachC takes 40 of the best for his team then leaves the scraps for the rest of the teams.
The lower 1/3 of CoachC’s is nowhere near the best out there. Want your kid on his team , just ask and you are on it. You kid won’t see the field but you can say your boy is on the team.
This is the same for his 2025 & 2026 teams as well. You're on the team but you won't see the field.
It's sad and the guy does nothing to coach the kids. he hires good coaches for his teams and again the other teams get the scraps, people are crazy to keep worshiping this guy????????
What makes you think it's different anywhere else? We played Igloo last week and there must have been 65 kids between both teams. I'm sure their B team is terrible too. Years ago everyone mocked CoachC for having so many kids. Now they all do it. I'm not saying it's right, just the sad reality.
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[quote=Anonymous]So let me ask you a question, how mad are the parents on the 2022 2nd team? They look like it was the first time they played lacrosse yesterday, I mean my goodness how does CoachC even charge for that ?
Did you see how many kids were on that team!!!! Crazy thing is they have a 3rd team. I can only imagine what that team looks like.
It really is sad. These parents pay thousands for their kids to play which is fine. Express leads them to believe that they are on a good team when CoachC takes 40 of the best for his team then leaves the scraps for the rest of the teams.
The lower 1/3 of CoachC’s is nowhere near the best out there. Want your kid on his team , just ask and you are on it. You kid won’t see the field but you can say your boy is on the team.
This is the same for his 2025 & 2026 teams as well. You're on the team but you won't see the field.
It's sad and the guy does nothing to coach the kids. he hires good coaches for his teams and again the other teams get the scraps, people are crazy to keep worshiping this guy????????
What makes you think it's different anywhere else? We played Igloo last week and there must have been 65 kids between both teams. I'm sure their B team is terrible too. Years ago everyone mocked CoachC for having so many kids. Now they all do it. I'm not saying it's right, just the sad reality.[/quote
You are right. Most clubs are like that now. Express started it. The other clubs saw how much money they were making. And they joined in. When my oldest started playing. Teams were 18-20. Now it’s insane Don’t blame any of the clubs. At the end of the day I would assume most parents are happy with it. If they weren’t they would leave and find something else
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
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You are right. Most clubs are like that now. Express started it. The other clubs saw how much money they were making. And they joined in. When my oldest started playing. Teams were 18-20. Now it’s insane Don’t blame any of the clubs. At the end of the day I would assume most parents are happy with it. If they weren’t they would leave and find something else
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
It's so true. We saw in NJ a good 7-8 kids on his 2026 A team that never saw the field. Not even for one minute in the last game.
The kids that never play on the A team, could play with the 2nd team. They would get more than ample playing time with a great coach, making the entire team better. But they just can't bear to NOT be part of that CoachC team. People hang around for the wrong reasons and the only ones to blame are the parents. Don't tell me they're in it for the practices. That's BS. It's for the sliver of hope that CoachC will call upon you one day. If he hasn't by now, he never will.
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You are right. Most clubs are like that now. Express started it. The other clubs saw how much money they were making. And they joined in. When my oldest started playing. Teams were 18-20. Now it’s insane Don’t blame any of the clubs. At the end of the day I would assume most parents are happy with it. If they weren’t they would leave and find something else
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
It's so true. We saw in NJ a good 7-8 kids on his 2026 A team that never saw the field. Not even for one minute in the last game.
The kids that never play on the A team, could play with the 2nd team. They would get more than ample playing time with a great coach, making the entire team better. But they just can't bear to NOT be part of that CoachC team. People hang around for the wrong reasons and the only ones to blame are the parents. Don't tell me they're in it for the practices. That's BS. It's for the sliver of hope that CoachC will call upon you one day. If he hasn't by now, he never will.
Truth. I've seen it too.
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You are right. Most clubs are like that now. Express started it. The other clubs saw how much money they were making. And they joined in. When my oldest started playing. Teams were 18-20. Now it’s insane Don’t blame any of the clubs. At the end of the day I would assume most parents are happy with it. If they weren’t they would leave and find something else
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
It's so true. We saw in NJ a good 7-8 kids on his 2026 A team that never saw the field. Not even for one minute in the last game.
The kids that never play on the A team, could play with the 2nd team. They would get more than ample playing time with a great coach, making the entire team better. But they just can't bear to NOT be part of that CoachC team. People hang around for the wrong reasons and the only ones to blame are the parents. Don't tell me they're in it for the practices. That's BS. It's for the sliver of hope that CoachC will call upon you one day. If he hasn't by now, he never will.
Truth. I've seen it too.
I can get a good look at a T Bone by sticking my head up a cows butt but I'd rather take the butchers word for it. Did you watch the previous 5 games where the boys all played evenly? Shortening the bench against a top team is a reality these kids need to learn, they're going to be in HS in two years. They all seemed pretty happy at the end of the SL game. Kids get better by practicing with the best team possible for 3 hours a week then doing solo work and attending some extra clinics, not by playing 20 mins in one game. Let's stop the Express hating, it's the top program on LI and one of the tops in the country. If it weren't, the forum about Express alone wouldn't exist.
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You are right. Most clubs are like that now. Express started it. The other clubs saw how much money they were making. And they joined in. When my oldest started playing. Teams were 18-20. Now it’s insane Don’t blame any of the clubs. At the end of the day I would assume most parents are happy with it. If they weren’t they would leave and find something else
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
It's so true. We saw in NJ a good 7-8 kids on his 2026 A team that never saw the field. Not even for one minute in the last game.
The kids that never play on the A team, could play with the 2nd team. They would get more than ample playing time with a great coach, making the entire team better. But they just can't bear to NOT be part of that CoachC team. People hang around for the wrong reasons and the only ones to blame are the parents. Don't tell me they're in it for the practices. That's BS. It's for the sliver of hope that CoachC will call upon you one day. If he hasn't by now, he never will.
Truth. I've seen it too.
I can get a good look at a T Bone by sticking my head up a cows butt but I'd rather take the butchers word for it. Did you watch the previous 5 games where the boys all played evenly? Shortening the bench against a top team is a reality these kids need to learn, they're going to be in HS in two years. They all seemed pretty happy at the end of the SL game. Kids get better by practicing with the best team possible for 3 hours a week then doing solo work and attending some extra clinics, not by playing 20 mins in one game. Let's stop the Express hating, it's the
top program on LI and one of the tops in the country. If it weren't, the forum about Express alone wouldn't exist.
They do have top tier teams in every age group. The problem is that they have too many kids on each team. The top team in particular. Their 2nd and 3rd teams get crushed in B tournaments. Their 2nd and 3rd teams also get very little attention from the club. The coaches are not invested in them I’ve heard this from so many parents but as soon as they leave. There are 5 more people willing to take their spot . People stay with the hope of moving up. They also stay so they can put that shiny express sticker on their car. I’m not knocking coach c. He has a business model that is working. Good for him.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are right. Most clubs are like that now. Express started it. The other clubs saw how much money they were making. And they joined in. When my oldest started playing. Teams were 18-20. Now it’s insane Don’t blame any of the clubs. At the end of the day I would assume most parents are happy with it. If they weren’t they would leave and find something else
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
It's so true. We saw in NJ a good 7-8 kids on his 2026 A team that never saw the field. Not even for one minute in the last game.
The kids that never play on the A team, could play with the 2nd team. They would get more than ample playing time with a great coach, making the entire team better. But they just can't bear to NOT be part of that CoachC team. People hang around for the wrong reasons and the only ones to blame are the parents. Don't tell me they're in it for the practices. That's BS. It's for the sliver of hope that CoachC will call upon you one day. If he hasn't by now, he never will.
Truth. I've seen it too.
I can get a good look at a T Bone by sticking my head up a cows butt but I'd rather take the butchers word for it. Did you watch the previous 5 games where the boys all played evenly? Shortening the bench against a top team is a reality these kids need to learn, they're going to be in HS in two years. They all seemed pretty happy at the end of the SL game. Kids get better by practicing with the best team possible for 3 hours a week then doing solo work and attending some extra clinics, not by playing 20 mins in one game. Let's stop the Express hating, it's the
top program on LI and one of the tops in the country. If it weren't, the forum about Express alone wouldn't exist.
They do have top tier teams in every age group. The problem is that they have too many kids on each team. The top team in particular. Their 2nd and 3rd teams get crushed in B tournaments. Their 2nd and 3rd teams also get very little attention from the club. The coaches are not invested in them I’ve heard this from so many parents but as soon as they leave. There are 5 more people willing to take their spot . People stay with the hope of moving up. They also stay so they can put that shiny express sticker on their car. I’m not knocking coach c. He has a business model that is working. Good for him.
All good points.....the bottomline is that we the parents buy into his bs ! He says your little boys is a solid player and will only get better playing on his team. We see he has had success so we the parents buy it! Truth is simple on his top 2022 team he plays the same kids over and over and 25 kids sit and watch. He has 3 studs he runs into the ground and all the other kids get the scraps ! SAD! but like the other person said he has a great business model and we open up our checkbooks to this fool!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are right. Most clubs are like that now. Express started it. The other clubs saw how much money they were making. And they joined in. When my oldest started playing. Teams were 18-20. Now it’s insane Don’t blame any of the clubs. At the end of the day I would assume most parents are happy with it. If they weren’t they would leave and find something else
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
The other thing I notice is that parents want to be part of a winning club. Doesn’t matter if their kids are getting play time or limited practice reps. They want the status symbol. I personally think it’s crazy.
It's so true. We saw in NJ a good 7-8 kids on his 2026 A team that never saw the field. Not even for one minute in the last game.
The kids that never play on the A team, could play with the 2nd team. They would get more than ample playing time with a great coach, making the entire team better. But they just can't bear to NOT be part of that CoachC team. People hang around for the wrong reasons and the only ones to blame are the parents. Don't tell me they're in it for the practices. That's BS. It's for the sliver of hope that CoachC will call upon you one day. If he hasn't by now, he never will.
Truth. I've seen it too.
I can get a good look at a T Bone by sticking my head up a cows butt but I'd rather take the butchers word for it. Did you watch the previous 5 games where the boys all played evenly? Shortening the bench against a top team is a reality these kids need to learn, they're going to be in HS in two years. They all seemed pretty happy at the end of the SL game. Kids get better by practicing with the best team possible for 3 hours a week then doing solo work and attending some extra clinics, not by playing 20 mins in one game. Let's stop the Express hating, it's the
top program on LI and one of the tops in the country. If it weren't, the forum about Express alone wouldn't exist.
They do have top tier teams in every age group. The problem is that they have too many kids on each team. The top team in particular. Their 2nd and 3rd teams get crushed in B tournaments. Their 2nd and 3rd teams also get very little attention from the club. The coaches are not invested in them I’ve heard this from so many parents but as soon as they leave. There are 5 more people willing to take their spot . People stay with the hope of moving up. They also stay so they can put that shiny express sticker on their car. I’m not knocking coach c. He has a business model that is working. Good for him.
All good points.....the bottomline is that we the parents buy into his bs ! He says your little boys is a solid player and will only get better playing on his team. We see he has had success so we the parents buy it! Truth is simple on his top 2022 team he plays the same kids over and over and 25 kids sit and watch. He has 3 studs he runs into the ground and all the other kids get the scraps ! SAD! but like the other person said he has a great business model and we open up our checkbooks to this fool!
My son had limited playing time on the top team. During last season we asked to have my son moved to the decent 2nd team which was done. He now plays almost the entire game. My son didn't want to do it at first but he couldn't be happier with the move. They're not blowing every team out like they were but they win most games and all the ones that they should be winning. If you have a conversation with Coach C he is very open and honest and he's very approachable. If you don't know where your kid stands i'd say to have a conversation with him.
it boils down to... are you paying for field time or development? If it's only field time you're paying for - there are tons of mid-level clubs where your kid can play all game. He won't be pushed and develop as much... but at least you can see him run around the field at tourneys
I’d saying paying for both. Development is great. There is also something called Fun. Is it fun for a kid and family to go to a tournament and watch them not play? If you and your family find this enjoyable, God Bless. Is the development so good, that millions of dollars will be earned down the line. If that were the case, sacrificing no fun would be understandable.
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it boils down to... are you paying for field time or development? If it's only field time you're paying for - there are tons of mid-level clubs where your kid can play all game. He won't be pushed and develop as much... but at least you can see him run around the field at tourneys
This statement is silly. Your basically saying the development only occurs on the practice field and not during games. Sorry but real game time is essential to a kids development.
i agree with that statement. i have seen many kids perform well in practice and can not bring that play to a real game situation. Everyone hits the GOLF BALL straight on the driving range. Just MO.
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it boils down to... are you paying for field time or development? If it's only field time you're paying for - there are tons of mid-level clubs where your kid can play all game. He won't be pushed and develop as much... but at least you can see him run around the field at tourneys
This statement is silly. Your basically saying the development only occurs on the practice field and not during games. Sorry but real game time is essential to a kids development.
How about developing confidence? These parents who allow their kids to sit on the sideline and not play are destroying confidence. Because it is rare that you got from sitter to player.
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it boils down to... are you paying for field time or development? If it's only field time you're paying for - there are tons of mid-level clubs where your kid can play all game. He won't be pushed and develop as much... but at least you can see him run around the field at tourneys
This statement is silly. Your basically saying the development only occurs on the practice field and not during games. Sorry but real game time is essential to a kids development.
How about developing confidence? These parents who allow their kids to sit on the sideline and not play are destroying confidence. Because it is rare that you got from sitter to player.
I'm sure their parents are "proud" of their kid for being on that top team and never seeing the field. That's a joke. That means your kid belongs on the next level down.
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it boils down to... are you paying for field time or development? If it's only field time you're paying for - there are tons of mid-level clubs where your kid can play all game. He won't be pushed and develop as much... but at least you can see him run around the field at tourneys
This statement is silly. Your basically saying the development only occurs on the practice field and not during games. Sorry but real game time is essential to a kids development.
How about developing confidence? These parents who allow their kids to sit on the sideline and not play are destroying confidence. Because it is rare that you got from sitter to player.
I'm sure their parents are "proud" of their kid for being on that top team and never seeing the field. That's a joke. That means your kid belongs on the next level down.
The problem is a lot of those kids do belong at that level problem is when CoachC plays favoritism and only plays the same kids over and over until they are burnt out ! Its not the players is the coach !
How many kids really play in any given day on CoachC 25, 26 ,22? Everyone sees the sidelines. How many attack, middies , really play
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How many kids really play in any given day on CoachC 25, 26 ,22? Everyone sees the sidelines. How many attack, middies , really play
15 KIDS MAX! Then he will sprinkle in others only if they are winning ! but a sideline of 40 kids is crazy! I'm happy where my kid is at and its not on Express !
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How many kids really play in any given day on CoachC 25, 26 ,22? Everyone sees the sidelines. How many attack, middies , really play
15 KIDS MAX! Then he will sprinkle in others only if they are winning ! but a sideline of 40 kids is crazy! I'm happy where my kid is at and its not on Express !
Then how on earth could you possibly have any credit here. Your kid does NOT play with Express, so in fact you really DON'T know.
I can speak for C's 26 team and they do NOT have 40 kids on the sidelines.
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How many kids really play in any given day on CoachC 25, 26 ,22? Everyone sees the sidelines. How many attack, middies , really play
15 KIDS MAX! Then he will sprinkle in others only if they are winning ! but a sideline of 40 kids is crazy! I'm happy where my kid is at and its not on Express !
Then how on earth could you possibly have any credit here. Your kid does NOT play with Express, so in fact you really DON'T know.
I can speak for C's 26 team and they do NOT have 40 kids on the sidelines.
He did not have 40 kids on the sideline at Tristar. However he did have close to 40 kids on his team(and 4 goalies) at laxfest in Connecticut over the summer . It seems he has clearly separated the teams this year. At tristar he had 3 goalies and a where from 22-25 kids
25 and 26 teams looked pretty good in CT Sunday. Didn’t look like the benches were too deep.
You would be surprised how many kids don't play much because for some reason they just stay at the end of the lineup on the sideline. I asked my son why he is playing so much recently and he said its because he is not taking himself out when he is on the field until the coach hauls him out or he is tired and other kids just stay at the end of the line. My son isn't one of the best kids, probably in the middle. I asked if there are other kids who didn't play much and he said yes because basically they are standing at the end of the line away from the coach. As a parent I think that maybe we all want the coach's to be on the sideline with a spreadsheet of players names and how much time they are getting but that's not reality unfortunately. My son has been on both sides of this starting out as the kid at the end of the line with no confidence but he has learned from his mistakes it seems. Is it a confidence thing, who knows but if your kid isn't getting enough minutes tell him to be on the coach's hip the whole game in front of the line to start with. If that's not working find another team where his talent level where get him into the game. AND I'm not a coach, just a parent who has seen both sides of getting no playing time and getting more playing time then others.
Hahah. Thank s Mike.
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You would be surprised how many kids don't play much because for some reason they just stay at the end of the lineup on the sideline. I asked my son why he is playing so much recently and he said its because he is not taking himself out when he is on the field until the coach hauls him out or he is tired and other kids just stay at the end of the line. My son isn't one of the best kids, probably in the middle. I asked if there are other kids who didn't play much and he said yes because basically they are standing at the end of the line away from the coach. As a parent I think that maybe we all want the coach's to be on the sideline with a spreadsheet of players names and how much time they are getting but that's not reality unfortunately. My son has been on both sides of this starting out as the kid at the end of the line with no confidence but he has learned from his mistakes it seems. Is it a confidence thing, who knows but if your kid isn't getting enough minutes tell him to be on the coach's hip the whole game in front of the line to start with. If that's not working find another team where his talent level where get him into the game. AND I'm not a coach, just a parent who has seen both sides of getting no playing time and getting more playing time then others.
What a deal for $3,200! Thanks Mike! His system rocks!
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You would be surprised how many kids don't play much because for some reason they just stay at the end of the lineup on the sideline. I asked my son why he is playing so much recently and he said its because he is not taking himself out when he is on the field until the coach hauls him out or he is tired and other kids just stay at the end of the line. My son isn't one of the best kids, probably in the middle. I asked if there are other kids who didn't play much and he said yes because basically they are standing at the end of the line away from the coach. As a parent I think that maybe we all want the coach's to be on the sideline with a spreadsheet of players names and how much time they are getting but that's not reality unfortunately. My son has been on both sides of this starting out as the kid at the end of the line with no confidence but he has learned from his mistakes it seems. Is it a confidence thing, who knows but if your kid isn't getting enough minutes tell him to be on the coach's hip the whole game in front of the line to start with. If that's not working find another team where his talent level where get him into the game. AND I'm not a coach, just a parent who has seen both sides of getting no playing time and getting more playing time then others.
As much as I detest to agree with this. Not an Express parent at all and will tie it in to other sports. My sons time on the court in basketball went up almost doubled when I realized the coach literally looked down and would grab whatever kid was sitting next to him to make subs, it was always the same kids who rotated the seats coming on and off. I told my son you make sure never to be more then 3 spots away in hoops and boom his time increased. In box, you will see a kid not touch the field, they go to the end of the sub line and never move back to the front of the line. While Express numbers tend to be crazy, I think this guy has a very valid point. You need to make yourself available. They are not worrying about some kids 3 minutes when he is 20 kids away
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You would be surprised how many kids don't play much because for some reason they just stay at the end of the lineup on the sideline. I asked my son why he is playing so much recently and he said its because he is not taking himself out when he is on the field until the coach hauls him out or he is tired and other kids just stay at the end of the line. My son isn't one of the best kids, probably in the middle. I asked if there are other kids who didn't play much and he said yes because basically they are standing at the end of the line away from the coach. As a parent I think that maybe we all want the coach's to be on the sideline with a spreadsheet of players names and how much time they are getting but that's not reality unfortunately. My son has been on both sides of this starting out as the kid at the end of the line with no confidence but he has learned from his mistakes it seems. Is it a confidence thing, who knows but if your kid isn't getting enough minutes tell him to be on the coach's hip the whole game in front of the line to start with. If that's not working find another team where his talent level where get him into the game. AND I'm not a coach, just a parent who has seen both sides of getting no playing time and getting more playing time then others.
As much as I detest to agree with this. Not an Express parent at all and will tie it in to other sports. My sons time on the court in basketball went up almost doubled when I realized the coach literally looked down and would grab whatever kid was sitting next to him to make subs, it was always the same kids who rotated the seats coming on and off. I told my son you make sure never to be more then 3 spots away in hoops and boom his time increased. In box, you will see a kid not touch the field, they go to the end of the sub line and never move back to the front of the line. While Express numbers tend to be crazy, I think this guy has a very valid point. You need to make yourself available. They are not worrying about some kids 3 minutes when he is 20 kids away
If you think CoachC doesn’t know who should be on the field and who is gonna sit the bench at any given time you’re completely wrong. He knows exactly who playing. He’ll even say to kids before a game that they’re not gonna play or before a tournament that certain kids won’t play much.
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You would be surprised how many kids don't play much because for some reason they just stay at the end of the lineup on the sideline. I asked my son why he is playing so much recently and he said its because he is not taking himself out when he is on the field until the coach hauls him out or he is tired and other kids just stay at the end of the line. My son isn't one of the best kids, probably in the middle. I asked if there are other kids who didn't play much and he said yes because basically they are standing at the end of the line away from the coach. As a parent I think that maybe we all want the coach's to be on the sideline with a spreadsheet of players names and how much time they are getting but that's not reality unfortunately. My son has been on both sides of this starting out as the kid at the end of the line with no confidence but he has learned from his mistakes it seems. Is it a confidence thing, who knows but if your kid isn't getting enough minutes tell him to be on the coach's hip the whole game in front of the line to start with. If that's not working find another team where his talent level where get him into the game. AND I'm not a coach, just a parent who has seen both sides of getting no playing time and getting more playing time then others.
As much as I detest to agree with this. Not an Express parent at all and will tie it in to other sports. My sons time on the court in basketball went up almost doubled when I realized the coach literally looked down and would grab whatever kid was sitting next to him to make subs, it was always the same kids who rotated the seats coming on and off. I told my son you make sure never to be more then 3 spots away in hoops and boom his time increased. In box, you will see a kid not touch the field, they go to the end of the sub line and never move back to the front of the line. While Express numbers tend to be crazy, I think this guy has a very valid point. You need to make yourself available. They are not worrying about some kids 3 minutes when he is 20 kids away
If you think CoachC doesn’t know who should be on the field and who is gonna sit the bench at any given time you’re completely wrong. He knows exactly who playing. He’ll even say to kids before a game that they’re not gonna play or before a tournament that certain kids won’t play much.
I agree, but if you are a borderline player and a kid goes down or gets a penalty or any situation, sitting 16 kids down is not going to get you on the field faster then the kid standing next to the coach.
I think the whole conversation practice player vs player on the top team has run its course. Parents make really poor decisions, imho, but it’s not my decision. So if they want to be on a team and not have their son not play, let them. It’s their money and time.
What’s the best ability? Availability!!!!
Choices .....every parent and player have choices . Very simple . Why get on here and go back and forth about kids standing on sidelines , not playing etc.....people choose to do that . Stop the nonsense and focus on your kid and your choice
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Choices .....every parent and player have choices . Very simple . Why get on here and go back and forth about kids standing on sidelines , not playing etc.....people choose to do that . Stop the nonsense and focus on your kid and your choice
The audacity to come on a forum that is dedicated to lacrosse and then one step further a thread dedicated to a single team and discuss lacrosse and that team. Can we please get to discussing D3 Cricket and baking tips!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You would be surprised how many kids don't play much because for some reason they just stay at the end of the lineup on the sideline. I asked my son why he is playing so much recently and he said its because he is not taking himself out when he is on the field until the coach hauls him out or he is tired and other kids just stay at the end of the line. My son isn't one of the best kids, probably in the middle. I asked if there are other kids who didn't play much and he said yes because basically they are standing at the end of the line away from the coach. As a parent I think that maybe we all want the coach's to be on the sideline with a spreadsheet of players names and how much time they are getting but that's not reality unfortunately. My son has been on both sides of this starting out as the kid at the end of the line with no confidence but he has learned from his mistakes it seems. Is it a confidence thing, who knows but if your kid isn't getting enough minutes tell him to be on the coach's hip the whole game in front of the line to start with. If that's not working find another team where his talent level where get him into the game. AND I'm not a coach, just a parent who has seen both sides of getting no playing time and getting more playing time then others.
As much as I detest to agree with this. Not an Express parent at all and will tie it in to other sports. My sons time on the court in basketball went up almost doubled when I realized the coach literally looked down and would grab whatever kid was sitting next to him to make subs, it was always the same kids who rotated the seats coming on and off. I told my son you make sure never to be more then 3 spots away in hoops and boom his time increased. In box, you will see a kid not touch the field, they go to the end of the sub line and never move back to the front of the line. While Express numbers tend to be crazy, I think this guy has a very valid point. You need to make yourself available. They are not worrying about some kids 3 minutes when he is 20 kids away
As a hs bball coach this is exactly correct.
Any coach that subs players by their location on the bench is a complete joke and should resign immediately.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any coach that subs players by their location on the bench is a complete joke and should resign immediately.
Avail-ability!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any coach that subs players by their location on the bench is a complete joke and should resign immediately.
Avail-ability!
And you need to be available when Smiley calls a “practice”! Ha ha
My impression has always been that Coach C is very honest about whether your kid will play or not. Am I wrong in this?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My impression has always been that Coach C is very honest about whether your kid will play or not. Am I wrong in this?
As a parent who’s had kids play for both 91 and express, Mike C is way more accessible than anyone on 91. If you go on the express website and call the number, it’s Mike C personal cell phone. He will answer any questions you have. Yes he’s into winning and will only play his best players. They are plenty of express critics and there are some valid complaints. But overall if you ask where your kids stands.....he will honestly tell you. In all my kids years playing for 91 I never had anything even close to that. Just my opinion. Best of luck.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My impression has always been that Coach C is very honest about whether your kid will play or not. Am I wrong in this?
As a parent who’s had kids play for both 91 and express, Mike C is way more accessible than anyone on 91. If you go on the express website and call the number, it’s Mike C personal cell phone. He will answer any questions you have. Yes he’s into winning and will only play his best players. They are plenty of express critics and there are some valid complaints. But overall if you ask where your kids stands.....he will honestly tell you. In all my kids years playing for 91 I never had anything even close to that. Just my opinion. Best of luck.
All true, anybody that doesn’t have a kid that plays are told well in advance. Some parents think it’s a positive to practice against better players and not play. I agree with practice against better players, but to not play is just a waste of time and money.
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Any coach that subs players by their location on the bench is a complete joke and should resign immediately.
With all due respect ma'am. It's clear you have never coached a day in your life. Please bring your husband back out to talk
How about when there is 3 coaches standing on the sideline. Shouldn’t each assistant sub a different position? Stop it with the standing near the coach. That’s sounds so ridiculous. What if your water bottle is 20 feet away, should you stand there thirsty? What happens if the coach likes to walk around? Should 12 kids just follow him up and down the sideline to try and get playing time? This is comical conversation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any coach that subs players by their location on the bench is a complete joke and should resign immediately.
With all due respect ma'am. It's clear you have never coached a day in your life. Please bring your husband back out to talk
I’ve coached football, basketball and lacrosse for many years. I can honestly say there may have only been 1 or 2 times I sent a kid in because he was near me. If you are coaching and being paid to coach (not talking about little league and PAL) for a travel team. You should have a game plan. You should know who you are playing in every situation. You should know the talent and ability of all your players.
The majority of travel coaches are HS coaches. These guys know what they are doing. If you have a coach that is subbing kids because of their position on the bench, then you have a coach who has no business being a paid coach. You should run as fast as you can away from that coach.
Now thats funny. All the great ones coach by bench location..
Free flowing game. Kids running up and the down the field back and forth. Middie is tired and runs towards the sideline asking for a sub. Coach either find the closest the kid or wait....... walks down the sideline looking for little johnny who is rooting through his bag checking his texts. The 15 seconds it takes to find little johnny the other team runs down on an odd man break and scores. Sorry folks but lacrosse isn't basketball or football or soccer. Its like the old 4 wheel drive commercial from the 80s, Shift on the fly and past the others by. Some substituting is done during stoppages but much if it isn't. Repeat that to yourself... MOST LACROSSE SUBBING IS DONE QUICKLY WITHOUT WHISTLES.......Get your kid next to the coach on the sideline if they want to get in a fast free flowing game. Or just wait for stoppages and play half as much.
Free flowing game, kids checking texts. This sounds like a 3rd grade PAL game. We are talking club. Offensive and defensive midfielders run in and out, in a very organized way. No club coach, at least on the older teams, care where a players position is on the bench. If our club coach subbed kids based on that, there would be probably no kids on the team. Parents wouldn’t pay to be part of something that ridiculous. Worry about your kid training and getting better, that’s how he will play more. Don’t worry as much as where he stands in relation to the coach on the sidelines. Don’t worry about how close you park your car in relation to the coaches car in the parking lot. Good luck.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Free flowing game. Kids running up and the down the field back and forth. Middie is tired and runs towards the sideline asking for a sub. Coach either find the closest the kid or wait....... walks down the sideline looking for little johnny who is rooting through his bag checking his texts. The 15 seconds it takes to find little johnny the other team runs down on an odd man break and scores. Sorry folks but lacrosse isn't basketball or football or soccer. Its like the old 4 wheel drive commercial from the 80s, Shift on the fly and past the others by. Some substituting is done during stoppages but much if it isn't. Repeat that to yourself... MOST LACROSSE SUBBING IS DONE QUICKLY WITHOUT WHISTLES.......Get your kid next to the coach on the sideline if they want to get in a fast free flowing game. Or just wait for stoppages and play half as much.
True for 7 year olds. Not for middle school and high schools players. Sorry pal
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Free flowing game, kids checking texts. This sounds like a 3rd grade PAL game. We are talking club. Offensive and defensive midfielders run in and out, in a very organized way. No club coach, at least on the older teams, care where a players position is on the bench. If our club coach subbed kids based on that, there would be probably no kids on the team. Parents wouldn’t pay to be part of something that ridiculous. Worry about your kid training and getting better, that’s how he will play more. Don’t worry as much as where he stands in relation to the coach on the sidelines. Don’t worry about how close you park your car in relation to the coaches car in the parking lot. Good luck.
That must be why so many parents are on here complaining about playing time and inflated rosters on CLUB teams. Because the club coaches care about everyone getting playing time and getting better in lacrosse. Right. Your forgot to add your P.S. Parents of "Insert Club Team": Don't forget your payment is due Dec 31st. Please make every effort to pay early this month so that Credit Cards don't bounce and we get our money. That means all 32 players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Free flowing game. Kids running up and the down the field back and forth. Middie is tired and runs towards the sideline asking for a sub. Coach either find the closest the kid or wait....... walks down the sideline looking for little johnny who is rooting through his bag checking his texts. The 15 seconds it takes to find little johnny the other team runs down on an odd man break and scores. Sorry folks but lacrosse isn't basketball or football or soccer. Its like the old 4 wheel drive commercial from the 80s, Shift on the fly and past the others by. Some substituting is done during stoppages but much if it isn't. Repeat that to yourself... MOST LACROSSE SUBBING IS DONE QUICKLY WITHOUT WHISTLES.......Get your kid next to the coach on the sideline if they want to get in a fast free flowing game. Or just wait for stoppages and play half as much.
What? You are nuts. Most top teams at this age have a coach that is responsible for managing substitutions during the game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Free flowing game. Kids running up and the down the field back and forth. Middie is tired and runs towards the sideline asking for a sub. Coach either find the closest the kid or wait....... walks down the sideline looking for little johnny who is rooting through his bag checking his texts. The 15 seconds it takes to find little johnny the other team runs down on an odd man break and scores. Sorry folks but lacrosse isn't basketball or football or soccer. Its like the old 4 wheel drive commercial from the 80s, Shift on the fly and past the others by. Some substituting is done during stoppages but much if it isn't. Repeat that to yourself... MOST LACROSSE SUBBING IS DONE QUICKLY WITHOUT WHISTLES.......Get your kid next to the coach on the sideline if they want to get in a fast free flowing game. Or just wait for stoppages and play half as much.
What? You are nuts. Most top teams at this age have a coach that is responsible for managing substitutions during the game.
So the coach's are purposely not putting people in. Go back through posts and read about only certain players playing while the other 20 watch. That's what people are complaining about, unless they are for some reason posting lies on a site for no reason. Outside the top 9 kids everyone else is just a jersey and a helmet for MOST coaches. If your kid isn't getting top 9 then do whatever you have to to get in the game or find another team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Free flowing game. Kids running up and the down the field back and forth. Middie is tired and runs towards the sideline asking for a sub. Coach either find the closest the kid or wait....... walks down the sideline looking for little johnny who is rooting through his bag checking his texts. The 15 seconds it takes to find little johnny the other team runs down on an odd man break and scores. Sorry folks but lacrosse isn't basketball or football or soccer. Its like the old 4 wheel drive commercial from the 80s, Shift on the fly and past the others by. Some substituting is done during stoppages but much if it isn't. Repeat that to yourself... MOST LACROSSE SUBBING IS DONE QUICKLY WITHOUT WHISTLES.......Get your kid next to the coach on the sideline if they want to get in a fast free flowing game. Or just wait for stoppages and play half as much.
What? You are nuts. Most top teams at this age have a coach that is responsible for managing substitutions during the game.
So the coach's are purposely not putting people in. Go back through posts and read about only certain players playing while the other 20 watch. That's what people are complaining about, unless they are for some reason posting lies on a site for no reason. Outside the top 9 kids everyone else is just a jersey and a helmet for MOST coaches. If your kid isn't getting top 9 then do whatever you have to to get in the game or find another team.
Again, nobody should be complaining. The ones that don’t play know their son isn’t good enough and is there to practice. That’s the fact, they believe practicing with the best will be more beneficial than being the best on a B team. I would never do that, but a lot do.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Free flowing game. Kids running up and the down the field back and forth. Middie is tired and runs towards the sideline asking for a sub. Coach either find the closest the kid or wait....... walks down the sideline looking for little johnny who is rooting through his bag checking his texts. The 15 seconds it takes to find little johnny the other team runs down on an odd man break and scores. Sorry folks but lacrosse isn't basketball or football or soccer. Its like the old 4 wheel drive commercial from the 80s, Shift on the fly and past the others by. Some substituting is done during stoppages but much if it isn't. Repeat that to yourself... MOST LACROSSE SUBBING IS DONE QUICKLY WITHOUT WHISTLES.......Get your kid next to the coach on the sideline if they want to get in a fast free flowing game. Or just wait for stoppages and play half as much.
What? You are nuts. Most top teams at this age have a coach that is responsible for managing substitutions during the game.
Most top teams? Seems like we have determined Express is the best 2026 team.
Annapolis Hawks is top 26 team
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Annapolis Hawks is top 26 team
Hawks*
*4 holdbacks
Express every kid is on age
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Annapolis Hawks is top 26 team
Not even an Express parent, and I think the 26 Express team is the top team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Annapolis Hawks is top 26 team
Not even an Express parent, and I think the 26 Express team is the top team.
How different is that roster from the summer? When they lost to FCA and Sweetlax and played pretty close ones with Express North, Igloo and Express NJ.
Reading the different boards on here, they have snagged top players from different organizations.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Annapolis Hawks is top 26 team
Not even an Express parent, and I think the 26 Express team is the top team.
Especially the on age version of Hawks team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Annapolis Hawks is top 26 team
Not even an Express parent, and I think the 26 Express team is the top team.
Especially the on age version of Hawks team.
Come on. I'm a LI dad and this is old.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Annapolis Hawks is top 26 team
Not even an Express parent, and I think the 26 Express team is the top team.
Especially the on age version of Hawks team.
Come on. I'm a LI dad and this is old.
Who cares. They are great teams and beat each other. The 2026 Express team can’t find competition on LI. The 91 team is so far behind them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Annapolis Hawks is top 26 team
Not even an Express parent, and I think the 26 Express team is the top team.
Especially the on age version of Hawks team.
Come on. I'm a LI dad and this is old.
Who cares. They are great teams and beat each other. The 2026 Express team can’t find competition on LI. The 91 team is so far behind them.
I meant I'm tired of hearing people whine about the Hawks. They have said there is 3-4 that will not be on their WS team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Annapolis Hawks is top 26 team
Not even an Express parent, and I think the 26 Express team is the top team.
Especially the on age version of Hawks team.
Come on. I'm a LI dad and this is old.
Who cares. They are great teams and beat each other. The 2026 Express team can’t find competition on LI. The 91 team is so far behind them.
I meant I'm tired of hearing people whine about the Hawks. They have said there is 3-4 that will not be on their WS team
Who is whining? Just pointing out facts when Hawks* dad boasts about being #1.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Annapolis Hawks is top 26 team
Not even an Express parent, and I think the 26 Express team is the top team.
Especially the on age version of Hawks team.
Come on. I'm a LI dad and this is old.
Who cares. They are great teams and beat each other. The 2026 Express team can’t find competition on LI. The 91 team is so far behind them.
91 is simply not good. They'll beat good B teams easily but lose to just about every decent A team. You can't even compare Express to them. Express is in a group of maybe 5 teams in the country. We shall see but i'd say the Hawks, Express, Sweetlax, Tigers, Primetime, Madlax are your top teams. Everyone else is a different category.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Annapolis Hawks is top 26 team
Not even an Express parent, and I think the 26 Express team is the top team.
I would imagine making that statement you would know something about both teams. Has Express ever beaten Hawks. Let's worry about getting that first W before crowning anyone Vin!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Annapolis Hawks is top 26 team
Not even an Express parent, and I think the 26 Express team is the top team.
I would imagine making that statement you would know something about both teams. Has Express ever beaten Hawks. Let's worry about getting that first W before crowning anyone Vin!
Who cares, the Express is just awesome. And that’s is that. So they can lose, good, that’s the way it should be. There will never be a team like Crush, the landscape has changed. But it’s not about the #1 team, it’s about the top tier.
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Minus 25;26 express is terrible in every grade start at 2019 and work back
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Minus 25;26 express is terrible in every grade start at 2019 and work back
That is easiest the most uninformed statement ever written on this site.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Minus 25;26 express is terrible in every grade start at 2019 and work back
That is easiest the most uninformed statement ever written on this site.
Not Terrible at every age but also not top at any age until 25's on LI.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Minus 25;26 express is terrible in every grade start at 2019 and work back
That is easiest the most uninformed statement ever written on this site.
Not Terrible at every age but also not top at any age until 25's on LI.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Minus 25;26 express is terrible in every grade start at 2019 and work back
That is easiest the most uninformed statement ever written on this site.
Not Terrible at every age but also not top at any age until 25's on LI.
Better question to ask, what ages are they good in older years at ?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Minus 25;26 express is terrible in every grade start at 2019 and work back
That is easiest the most uninformed statement ever written on this site.
Not Terrible at every age but also not top at any age until 25's on LI.
Better question to ask, what ages are they good in older years at ?
Don't they have a very strong 2023 team.
91 will always be numero uno chumps!
Shoveling snow, ummm, I mean practice is on for today!
I’ll give you the addresses of 91 people so you can do our driveways haha!
What express LOng Island 2028 team is the A team? I believe O’Riley 2028 is the B?
Look, years ago Express was on the verge of folding. But because of reorganizing and recruiting some very talented players the Chaney 2022 team put them back on the map! Their 2023 team is also very talented too! I don’t know to much about the younger teams but weather you like them or not the only club that is constant is 91!
Chuks is the '28 AA team
Chuks is the '28 AA team
*whether
*consistent
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Look, years ago Express was on the verge of folding. But because of reorganizing and recruiting some very talented players the Chaney 2022 team put them back on the map! Their 2023 team is also very talented too! I don’t know to much about the younger teams but weather you like them or not the only club that is constant is 91!
*whether
*consistent
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look, years ago Express was on the verge of folding. But because of reorganizing and recruiting some very talented players the Chaney 2022 team put them back on the map! Their 2023 team is also very talented too! I don’t know to much about the younger teams but weather you like them or not the only club that is constant is 91!
Yeah sure. Their 2026 team is a disaster. So much for being "constant".
You're correct, the only club that plays in their own weak tournaments and beats up on awful teams is 91. I believe they're called "mylollipop tournaments".
Yeah sure. Their 2026 team is a disaster. So much for being "constant".[/quote]
2025 top 2
2027 top
2028 top
2029 top
2030 top 2
Yes younger teams here but that’s not bad for 91 future
2025 top 2
2027 top
2028 top
2029 top
2030 top 2
Yes younger teams here but that’s not bad for 91 future
I thought the Chuk '28 team was AAAAA+ not just AA. Haters...
Yeah.take a look at recent college lax games! All the top 2020 players are crush and most of their 2021 players are committed D1!
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Yeah sure. Their 2026 team is a disaster. So much for being "constant".
2027 top
2028 top
2029 top
2030 top 2
Yes younger teams here but that’s not bad for 91 future[/quote]
You are Fake News
Isn't it great when a low iq 91 dad posts his own rankings based on nothing more than him watching 91 teams play hitmen and empire in their horrible tournaments lol....how does someone even rank a 2028, 2029, 2030 team ,you're a fool
My kid just asked about possibly playing for 91 next season. Never wanted to before now. I’ll let him tryout and see what he thinks.He may change his mind by tryout time. I’m not going to pick his team for him. Let him see what is out there and decide from what he thinks. May not make a move, but I would consider it if he wanted to. Could be a different landscape next season. Possibly a bunch of player moves. WSYL will be done with. Things should be a bit more normal school and sports and overall. We’ll see.
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Isn't it great when a low iq 91 dad posts his own rankings based on nothing more than him watching 91 teams play hitmen and empire in their horrible tournaments lol....how does someone even rank a 2028, 2029, 2030 team ,you're a fool
Don’t these 91 teams okay the other Long Island teams? Check the scoreboard
The other long island teams aren't good . Just a few of them are . Other teams go out of state to play the good teams , 91 doesn't
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The other long island teams aren't good . Just a few of them are . Other teams go out of state to play the good teams , 91 doesn't
That’s not a true statement Express Daddy! Unfortunately Long Island is saturated with money hungry clubs . Long Island probably has triple the number of teams then these other states .
Unfortunately you're a foolish 91 dad and just proved my point. You just said it yourself , And 91 invites those bad teams to their tournaments and beats them. Some of the 91 teams never see an annapolis Hawks , primetime , sweetlax etc.....because they're stuck in their own bad tournaments. But hey , if you think blowing out hitmen is good for the brand , wear your tournament t shirt proudly .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately you're a foolish 91 dad and just proved my point. You just said it yourself , And 91 invites those bad teams to their tournaments and beats them. Some of the 91 teams never see an annapolis Hawks , primetime , sweetlax etc.....because they're stuck in their own bad tournaments. But hey , if you think blowing out hitmen is good for the brand , wear your tournament t shirt proudly .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately you're a foolish 91 dad and just proved my point. You just said it yourself , And 91 invites those bad teams to their tournaments and beats them. Some of the 91 teams never see an annapolis Hawks , primetime , sweetlax etc.....because they're stuck in their own bad tournaments. But hey , if you think blowing out hitmen is good for the brand , wear your tournament t shirt proudly .
Definitely not a 91 Dad here! I was commenting on your statement about the other LI teams. Could careless about 91 or WSYL as a matter of fact . I care about LI Lax and how we should be working to make it even stronger . You probably won’t agree with this statement because your kid probably plays on 2026 Express.
Long Island Express thread. Why is everyone talking about 91?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately you're a foolish 91 dad and just proved my point. You just said it yourself , And 91 invites those bad teams to their tournaments and beats them. Some of the 91 teams never see an annapolis Hawks , primetime , sweetlax etc.....because they're stuck in their own bad tournaments. But hey , if you think blowing out hitmen is good for the brand , wear your tournament t shirt proudly .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately you're a foolish 91 dad and just proved my point. You just said it yourself , And 91 invites those bad teams to their tournaments and beats them. Some of the 91 teams never see an annapolis Hawks , primetime , sweetlax etc.....because they're stuck in their own bad tournaments. But hey , if you think blowing out hitmen is good for the brand , wear your tournament t shirt proudly .
Definitely not a 91 Dad here! I was commenting on your statement about the other LI teams. Could careless about 91 or WSYL as a matter of fact . I care about LI Lax and how we should be working to make it even stronger . You probably won’t agree with this statement because your kid probably plays on 2026 Express.
At the 2026 level, there really isn’t any strong competition on LI for Express unfortunately. It would be great if there was. More local competition would be a definite plus.
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Long Island Express thread. Why is everyone talking about 91?
Jealousy because Express has lost its luster !
Lost its luster? I officiate in Delaware, When I ref tournaments I will say when the top teams show up to play Express is always there. Express North Long Island Express and Jersey Express. They might not win every game or tournament but they are there getting better. I don't see that many Long Island teams coming down like Express. Just my opinion from someone completely outside of Long Island Lax.
You're correct. That's because 91 doesn't leave their own weak tournaments. They beat up on bad teams then tell everyone how they destroyed every team . They never gave good out of state competition. Bad for the brand I guess when they get beat badly
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Lost its luster? I officiate in Delaware, When I ref tournaments I will say when the top teams show up to play Express is always there. Express North Long Island Express and Jersey Express. They might not win every game or tournament but they are there getting better. I don't see that many Long Island teams coming down like Express. Just my opinion from someone completely outside of Long Island Lax.
Thanks Express guy
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lost its luster? I officiate in Delaware, When I ref tournaments I will say when the top teams show up to play Express is always there. Express North Long Island Express and Jersey Express. They might not win every game or tournament but they are there getting better. I don't see that many Long Island teams coming down like Express. Just my opinion from someone completely outside of Long Island Lax.
Thanks Express guy
He's not wrong though. Even if it's an express person. Look at the tournaments they play in, all weak ones. Just this Sunday the 2026 "top team" played in what can easily be considered a B tournament/division.
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You're correct. That's because 91 doesn't leave their own weak tournaments. They beat up on bad teams then tell everyone how they destroyed every team . They never gave good out of state competition. Bad for the brand I guess when they get beat badly
91 has the best recruits every year. They dominate the youth rankings. In HS, they best LIE at almost every grade.
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Chuks is the '28 AA team
Are they the ones that went to Delaware in March?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lost its luster? I officiate in Delaware, When I ref tournaments I will say when the top teams show up to play Express is always there. Express North Long Island Express and Jersey Express. They might not win every game or tournament but they are there getting better. I don't see that many Long Island teams coming down like Express. Just my opinion from someone completely outside of Long Island Lax.
Thanks Express guy
He's not wrong though. Even if it's an express person. Look at the tournaments they play in, all weak ones. Just this Sunday the 2026 "top team" played in what can easily be considered a B tournament/division.
Chucks 2028 is AA team? What does that mean in the LI circuit? How many 28 teams are better?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chucks 2028 is AA team? What does that mean in the LI circuit? How many 28 teams are better?
It means it’s the Express top team and they are very good. They play Venom and Laxachusettes this weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Chucks 2028 is AA team? What does that mean in the LI circuit? How many 28 teams are better?
It means it’s the Express top team and they are very good. They play Venom and Laxachusettes this weekend.
We are talking about 5th graders right?
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My kid just asked about possibly playing for 91 next season. Never wanted to before now. I’ll let him tryout and see what he thinks.He may change his mind by tryout time. I’m not going to pick his team for him. Let him see what is out there and decide from what he thinks. May not make a move, but I would consider it if he wanted to. Could be a different landscape next season. Possibly a bunch of player moves. WSYL will be done with. Things should be a bit more normal school and sports and overall. We’ll see.
What grade?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid just asked about possibly playing for 91 next season. Never wanted to before now. I’ll let him tryout and see what he thinks.He may change his mind by tryout time. I’m not going to pick his team for him. Let him see what is out there and decide from what he thinks. May not make a move, but I would consider it if he wanted to. Could be a different landscape next season. Possibly a bunch of player moves. WSYL will be done with. Things should be a bit more normal school and sports and overall. We’ll see.
What grade?
Normal? Don't fool yourself.
Find a coach that cares about your son and wants him to improve and succeed. Not easy to that these days!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Find a coach that cares about your son and wants him to improve and succeed. Not easy to that these days!!!
Just do your research and call the coach and talk to them upon receiving an invite. It’s not that hard.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Find a coach that cares about your son and wants him to improve and succeed. Not easy to that these days!!!
Just do your research and call the coach and talk to them upon receiving an invite. It’s not that hard.
Call the coach? Big clubs don't even tell you who will be coaching your son. They will also tell you want you want to hear. It is a business, as unfortunate as that is. Better to ask older players and their parents what their experience was with that coach or team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Find a coach that cares about your son and wants him to improve and succeed. Not easy to that these days!!!
Just do your research and call the coach and talk to them upon receiving an invite. It’s not that hard.
Call the coach? Big clubs don't even tell you who will be coaching your son. They will also tell you want you want to hear. It is a business, as unfortunate as that is. Better to ask older players and their parents what their experience was with that coach or team.
Honestly, What would club would send an invite without the coaching staff attached to it?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Find a coach that cares about your son and wants him to improve and succeed. Not easy to that these days!!!
Just do your research and call the coach and talk to them upon receiving an invite. It’s not that hard.
Call the coach? Big clubs don't even tell you who will be coaching your son. They will also tell you want you want to hear. It is a business, as unfortunate as that is. Better to ask older players and their parents what their experience was with that coach or team.
Honestly, What would club would send an invite without the coaching staff attached to it?
Just look at the title of this thread, for starters. Notorious for swapping out coaches and using misleading names for its teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Find a coach that cares about your son and wants him to improve and succeed. Not easy to that these days!!!
Just do your research and call the coach and talk to them upon receiving an invite. It’s not that hard.
Call the coach? Big clubs don't even tell you who will be coaching your son. They will also tell you want you want to hear. It is a business, as unfortunate as that is. Better to ask older players and their parents what their experience was with that coach or team.
Honestly, What would club would send an invite without the coaching staff attached to it?
Just look at the title of this thread, for starters. Notorious for swapping out coaches and using misleading names for its teams.
Wait until your son gets to high school and all the directors from Express don't do ANYTHING for recruiting for any of the kids on the team - double whammy for those who have one of the directors as your Varsity or JV coach. Good times.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Find a coach that cares about your son and wants him to improve and succeed. Not easy to that these days!!!
Just do your research and call the coach and talk to them upon receiving an invite. It’s not that hard.
Call the coach? Big clubs don't even tell you who will be coaching your son. They will also tell you want you want to hear. It is a business, as unfortunate as that is. Better to ask older players and their parents what their experience was with that coach or team.
Honestly, What would club would send an invite without the coaching staff attached to it?
Just look at the title of this thread, for starters. Notorious for swapping out coaches and using misleading names for its teams.
Wait until your son gets to high school and all the directors from Express don't do ANYTHING for recruiting for any of the kids on the team - double whammy for those who have one of the directors as your Varsity or JV coach. Good times.
I have 1 son that graduated from one of their schools a few years ago and another soon to graduate and I can say with 100% confidence that you're wrong.
I agree. My son would not be committed without the Express. The second the school showed interest, the Director reached out immediately and helped tremendously.
Express is the best just ask the Express parents! 😂
Hilarious…..but true
Still waiting for express apology from WSYL
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still waiting for express apology from WSYL
Me too. They think if they ignore it, people will forget. What a disgrace!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still waiting for express apology from WSYL
Me too. They think if they ignore it, people will forget. What a disgrace!
What happen ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still waiting for express apology from WSYL
Me too. They think if they ignore it, people will forget. What a disgrace!
What happen ?
The kid no longer plays for Express. They did the right thing.
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I agree. My son would not be committed without the Express. The second the school showed interest, the Director reached out immediately and helped tremendously.
People can bash and joke all they want. My som is just starting the recruiting process and Express is doing more than I expected and he’s not that top 10%. Ask questions and don’t be a donk and they help.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree. My son would not be committed without the Express. The second the school showed interest, the Director reached out immediately and helped tremendously.
People can bash and joke all they want. My som is just starting the recruiting process and Express is doing more than I expected and he’s not that top 10%. Ask questions and don’t be a donk and they help.
If your sons goal is play in college, choosing the right club is everything entering the HS years.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree. My son would not be committed without the Express. The second the school showed interest, the Director reached out immediately and helped tremendously.
People can bash and joke all they want. My som is just starting the recruiting process and Express is doing more than I expected and he’s not that top 10%. Ask questions and don’t be a donk and they help.
If your sons goal is play in college, choosing the right club is everything entering the HS years.
And the right coach at the club. Just being on the A team isn't the only thing. If your coach looks after your son, it can make all the difference.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still waiting for express apology from WSYL
Me too. They think if they ignore it, people will forget. What a disgrace!
What happen ?
The kid no longer plays for Express. They did the right thing.
Is this true? It's not what I heard. I did hear his spot at SA was revoked.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still waiting for express apology from WSYL
Me too. They think if they ignore it, people will forget. What a disgrace!
What happen ?
The kid no longer plays for Express. They did the right thing.
Is this true? It's not what I heard. I did hear his spot at SA was revoked.
If all this is true. If the kid lost his spot at St A’s and is no longer on Express. I feel bad for the kid. He did nothing wrong he is suffering for his mother’s actions. He is still a child not even in HS yet His mother is the one who should pay the price. Hopefully this will teach other parents how to act towards others and to respect all people. The kids pay the price for your actions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still waiting for express apology from WSYL
Me too. They think if they ignore it, people will forget. What a disgrace!
What happen ?
The kid no longer plays for Express. They did the right thing.
Is this true? It's not what I heard. I did hear his spot at SA was revoked.
Is this regarding the “Karen” mom thing? If so? Why punish the kid!?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still waiting for express apology from WSYL
Me too. They think if they ignore it, people will forget. What a disgrace!
What happen ?
The kid no longer plays for Express. They did the right thing.
Is this true? It's not what I heard. I did hear his spot at SA was revoked.
If all this is true. If the kid lost his spot at St A’s and is no longer on Express. I feel bad for the kid. He did nothing wrong he is suffering for his mother’s actions. He is still a child not even in HS yet His mother is the one who should pay the price. Hopefully this will teach other parents how to act towards others and to respect all people. The kids pay the price for your actions.
Agree. Not fair to the kid at all. He's a friend of my son's and a good kid. Doesn't deserve this if it's true.
If express takes it out on the kid, shame on them
How exactly can the club punish the mom without impacting the kid?
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How exactly can the club punish the mom without impacting the kid?
Ban her from games and team stuff. Simple! Don’t punish a kid. He’s not at fault. That’s terrible.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How exactly can the club punish the mom without impacting the kid?
Ban her from games and team stuff. Simple! Don’t punish a kid. He’s not at fault. That’s terrible.
We don't even know if he was really kicked off of the team or out of SA.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How exactly can the club punish the mom without impacting the kid?
Ban her from games and team stuff. Simple! Don’t punish a kid. He’s not at fault. That’s terrible.
We don't even know if he was really kicked off of the team or out of SA.
It's on this forum so it MUST be true!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How exactly can the club punish the mom without impacting the kid?
Ban her from games and team stuff. Simple! Don’t punish a kid. He’s not at fault. That’s terrible.
We don't even know if he was really kicked off of the team or out of SA.
It's on this forum so it MUST be true!
Yes it’s awful but college coaches check to see if the parents are crazy too. Lacrosse does not generate that much money for them to have to deal with nut jobs. There is always another player just as good who don’t have crazy parents.
No public apology from the organization is really bad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No public apology from the organization is really bad
Public apology for what?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How exactly can the club punish the mom without impacting the kid?
Ban her from games and team stuff. Simple! Don’t punish a kid. He’s not at fault. That’s terrible.
We don't even know if he was really kicked off of the team or out of SA.
It's on this forum so it MUST be true!
Yes it’s awful but college coaches check to see if the parents are crazy too. Lacrosse does not generate that much money for them to have to deal with nut jobs. There is always another player just as good who don’t have crazy parents.
That’s an old wives tale
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No public apology from the organization is really bad
Public apology for what?
Why does the organization owe an apology for a parent of a player that did something? How is that the clubs fault? The woman should apologize … period. And, nothing should be taken out on the kid by the club! Lots of kids have parents that do dense things, Nothing to do with the club or kid!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No public apology from the organization is really bad
Public apology for what?
Honestly.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No public apology from the organization is really bad
Public apology for what?
For parents representing the Express organization spewing hateful and belligerent remarks to Native American families. Why won’t the Express organization issue an apology for the actions of their members and denounce what occurred. People are still waiting and have not forgotten!
Are there express parents that witnessed this? I saw a Video from a Regulators parent and the Express mom really seems controlled and was explaining the table and there was other women trying to insult her. They were not irate as if they were severely insulted. Just curious what the real truth is and the video made me severely doubt it was true
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No public apology from the organization is really bad
Public apology for what?
For parents representing the Express organization spewing hateful and belligerent remarks to Native American families. Why won’t the Express organization issue an apology for the actions of their members and denounce what occurred. People are still waiting and have not forgotten!
It’s one individual. It’s not an organization. She owes the apology for her actions. She’s not an employee of that organization. Her kid plays lacrosse there. Nothing to do with the team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No public apology from the organization is really bad
Public apology for what?
For parents representing the Express organization spewing hateful and belligerent remarks to Native American families. Why won’t the Express organization issue an apology for the actions of their members and denounce what occurred. People are still waiting and have not forgotten!
It’s one individual. It’s not an organization. She owes the apology for her actions. She’s not an employee of that organization. Her kid plays lacrosse there. Nothing to do with the team.
Everything to do with the team. Her and her son represented the team. Please stop making excuses. You are part of the program.
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Are there express parents that witnessed this? I saw a Video from a Regulators parent and the Express mom really seems controlled and was explaining the table and there was other women trying to insult her. They were not irate as if they were severely insulted. Just curious what the real truth is and the video made me severely doubt it was true
Exactly. The truth is somewhere in between. It didn’t start off negative and the women from express wasn’t yelling and screaming at them. She asked them to leave the table so the express kids could eat. Things spiraled out of control when the parents sitting at the table refused to leave the table. Things were said that were taken the wrong way. “You don’t belong here” was in reference to sitting at the wrong table not they didn’t belong at the WS. Other things were said. Things did get a little heated. But this whole thing has been blown up to something it is not.
My feeling is that the person who keeps posting wanting an apology was not even there. If they were, they would know the real story and it would be a non story
Parents are not part of the organization. They don’t represent a club. If a kid is on a team and wears the Jersey he is responsible for his action and if he does something inappropriate the club/team does not agree with, then he should be kicked off. The team is not responsible for what a parent says or does. If a parent says derogatory racist stuff to people?? That’s on them, personally. They are not representation for a club. If the kid did it, different story. Then the team should kick them off. Could you imagine if teams had to apologize for every dense thing these parents are doing at the tournaments!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents are not part of the organization. They don’t represent a club. If a kid is on a team and wears the Jersey he is responsible for his action and if he does something inappropriate the club/team does not agree with, then he should be kicked off. The team is not responsible for what a parent says or does. If a parent says derogatory racist stuff to people?? That’s on them, personally. They are not representation for a club. If the kid did it, different story. Then the team should kick them off. Could you imagine if teams had to apologize for every dense thing these parents are doing at the tournaments!
Well, if you read any of the Twitter comments and the statement made in Inside Lacrosse and by the organization involved, you would know that the lacrosse community is outraged. An official apology denouncing the incident would have been the appropriate thing to do.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No public apology from the organization is really bad
Public apology for what?
For parents representing the Express organization spewing hateful and belligerent remarks to Native American families. Why won’t the Express organization issue an apology for the actions of their members and denounce what occurred. People are still waiting and have not forgotten!
It’s one individual. It’s not an organization. She owes the apology for her actions. She’s not an employee of that organization. Her kid plays lacrosse there. Nothing to do with the team.
Everything to do with the team. Her and her son represented the team. Please stop making excuses. You are part of the program.
They weren't "representing" the team. Give it a rest. Why not give the directors a call instead of whining on an anonymous forum?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents are not part of the organization. They don’t represent a club. If a kid is on a team and wears the Jersey he is responsible for his action and if he does something inappropriate the club/team does not agree with, then he should be kicked off. The team is not responsible for what a parent says or does. If a parent says derogatory racist stuff to people?? That’s on them, personally. They are not representation for a club. If the kid did it, different story. Then the team should kick them off. Could you imagine if teams had to apologize for every dense thing these parents are doing at the tournaments!
Well, if you read any of the Twitter comments and the statement made in Inside Lacrosse and by the organization involved, you would know that the lacrosse community is outraged. An official apology denouncing the incident would have been the appropriate thing to do.
Blah blah blah. Go away
The express owners, directors or coaches did not say anything inappropriate. There is no reason for them to apologize or issue a statement.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents are not part of the organization. They don’t represent a club. If a kid is on a team and wears the Jersey he is responsible for his action and if he does something inappropriate the club/team does not agree with, then he should be kicked off. The team is not responsible for what a parent says or does. If a parent says derogatory racist stuff to people?? That’s on them, personally. They are not representation for a club. If the kid did it, different story. Then the team should kick them off. Could you imagine if teams had to apologize for every dense thing these parents are doing at the tournaments!
Well, if you read any of the Twitter comments and the statement made in Inside Lacrosse and by the organization involved, you would know that the lacrosse community is outraged. An official apology denouncing the incident would have been the appropriate thing to do.
When you wholeheartedly believe something to be true, you’d want everybody else to believe it too. That’s why people immerse themselves in echo chambers so that they can receive the affirmation that they seek.
If they are in a position of power, influence, and in this case anonymity, they might abuse it and impose their beliefs on others. But it doesn’t make it ok or right.
Given you likely believe you’re always on the moral high ground, I am curious your position on the following topics:
- Civil Rights
- Censorship and Freedom of Speech
- Abortion
- Religious freedom
- Affirmative action & reparations
- Climate change
- Death penalty
- Political party affiliation
- Minimum wage
- Social security
- Artificial intelligence
- Health insurance
- Labor unions
- Police brutality
- Outsourcing
- Gun control
- Foreign aid
- Vaccines
Please enlighten us! 🙏🙏🙏
Everyone has a right to make opinions on it. Mine is, that it was an individual that was not employed by the organization. It was a personal action that deserved a personal apology from that individual. Organization not involved. The kid shouldn’t be punished for it either.
Oh Yes Twitter quotes. Must be real reliable. If you were not there don’t comment. You are just another cancel culture keyboard warrior chasing done your insecurities of being irrelevant.
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
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Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
If you think YOU as a parent are representing a club lacrosse team as a parent you are kidding yourself.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately you're a foolish 91 dad and just proved my point. You just said it yourself , And 91 invites those bad teams to their tournaments and beats them. Some of the 91 teams never see an annapolis Hawks , primetime , sweetlax etc.....because they're stuck in their own bad tournaments. But hey , if you think blowing out hitmen is good for the brand , wear your tournament t shirt proudly .
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Unfortunately you're a foolish 91 dad and just proved my point. You just said it yourself , And 91 invites those bad teams to their tournaments and beats them. Some of the 91 teams never see an annapolis Hawks , primetime , sweetlax etc.....because they're stuck in their own bad tournaments. But hey , if you think blowing out hitmen is good for the brand , wear your tournament t shirt proudly .
Definitely not a 91 Dad here! I was commenting on your statement about the other LI teams. Could careless about 91 or WSYL as a matter of fact . I care about LI Lax and how we should be working to make it even stronger . You probably won’t agree with this statement because your kid probably plays on 2026 Express.
At the 2026 level, there really isn’t any strong competition on LI for Express unfortunately. It would be great if there was. More local competition would be a definite plus.
The 2026 B team is going to be greatly improved this year. Mark my words!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still waiting for express apology from WSYL
Me too. They think if they ignore it, people will forget. What a disgrace!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
If you think YOU as a parent are representing a club lacrosse team as a parent you are kidding yourself.
I know you are, but what am I? C'mon. I thought we were adults here. Geez.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately you're a foolish 91 dad and just proved my point. You just said it yourself , And 91 invites those bad teams to their tournaments and beats them. Some of the 91 teams never see an annapolis Hawks , primetime , sweetlax etc.....because they're stuck in their own bad tournaments. But hey , if you think blowing out hitmen is good for the brand , wear your tournament t shirt proudly .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately you're a foolish 91 dad and just proved my point. You just said it yourself , And 91 invites those bad teams to their tournaments and beats them. Some of the 91 teams never see an annapolis Hawks , primetime , sweetlax etc.....because they're stuck in their own bad tournaments. But hey , if you think blowing out hitmen is good for the brand , wear your tournament t shirt proudly .
Definitely not a 91 Dad here! I was commenting on your statement about the other LI teams. Could careless about 91 or WSYL as a matter of fact . I care about LI Lax and how we should be working to make it even stronger . You probably won’t agree with this statement because your kid probably plays on 2026 Express.
At the 2026 level, there really isn’t any strong competition on LI for Express unfortunately. It would be great if there was. More local competition would be a definite plus.
The 2026 B team is going to be greatly improved this year. Mark my words!!!!!
Thanks to the A team players moving down to make room for all the new hold backs . Still not sure if that will help!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately you're a foolish 91 dad and just proved my point. You just said it yourself , And 91 invites those bad teams to their tournaments and beats them. Some of the 91 teams never see an annapolis Hawks , primetime , sweetlax etc.....because they're stuck in their own bad tournaments. But hey , if you think blowing out hitmen is good for the brand , wear your tournament t shirt proudly .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately you're a foolish 91 dad and just proved my point. You just said it yourself , And 91 invites those bad teams to their tournaments and beats them. Some of the 91 teams never see an annapolis Hawks , primetime , sweetlax etc.....because they're stuck in their own bad tournaments. But hey , if you think blowing out hitmen is good for the brand , wear your tournament t shirt proudly .
Definitely not a 91 Dad here! I was commenting on your statement about the other LI teams. Could careless about 91 or WSYL as a matter of fact . I care about LI Lax and how we should be working to make it even stronger . You probably won’t agree with this statement because your kid probably plays on 2026 Express.
At the 2026 level, there really isn’t any strong competition on LI for Express unfortunately. It would be great if there was. More local competition would be a definite plus.
The 2026 B team is going to be greatly improved this year. Mark my words!!!!!
Thanks to the A team players moving down to make room for all the new hold backs . Still not sure if that will help!
If your talking about the B team I think the fact that some of the B Team players are going to the C team. This will give the C team a complete roster. I understand that the C team will be getting coach that will just be dedicated to their team. This will allow Wieczorek time to focus on just one team. The team should show tremendous improvement, granted they weren’t very good last year.
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Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
Stop with your cancel culture Thing
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
I agree 100%. It's a message that needs to be sent. Better late than never!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
I agree 100%. It's a message that needs to be sent. Better late than never!
Baloney. You’re the same person. Very sad to watch you continuously bring this up. Your fight is elsewhere…not with express. Also probably not with the woman who asked you or your friend to nicely get up so the kids could eat.
You clearly have an ax to grind and no one here is biting. Only thing you have achieved is that you’re an annoying person. I bet you weren’t invited to birthday parties as a kid and pushed to hard to be accepted. Just relax and you will see that doors open up for you. Good luck.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
I agree 100%. It's a message that needs to be sent. Better late than never!
Baloney. You’re the same person. Very sad to watch you continuously bring this up. Your fight is elsewhere…not with express. Also probably not with the woman who asked you or your friend to nicely get up so the kids could eat.
You clearly have an ax to grind and no one here is biting. Only thing you have achieved is that you’re an annoying person. I bet you weren’t invited to birthday parties as a kid and pushed to hard to be accepted. Just relax and you will see that doors open up for you. Good luck.
Not the same person, I was agreeing with a different poster. but keep drinking that racist Koolaid!
Racist Koolaid.. You are a joke. Just because there is a different view does not make that person a racist.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
I agree 100%. It's a message that needs to be sent. Better late than never!
Baloney. You’re the same person. Very sad to watch you continuously bring this up. Your fight is elsewhere…not with express. Also probably not with the woman who asked you or your friend to nicely get up so the kids could eat.
You clearly have an ax to grind and no one here is biting. Only thing you have achieved is that you’re an annoying person. I bet you weren’t invited to birthday parties as a kid and pushed to hard to be accepted. Just relax and you will see that doors open up for you. Good luck.
Not the same person, I was agreeing with a different poster. but keep drinking that racist Koolaid!
Yes, he or she is a racist because they disagree with you. Get off this thread.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
I agree 100%. It's a message that needs to be sent. Better late than never!
Baloney. You’re the same person. Very sad to watch you continuously bring this up. Your fight is elsewhere…not with express. Also probably not with the woman who asked you or your friend to nicely get up so the kids could eat.
You clearly have an ax to grind and no one here is biting. Only thing you have achieved is that you’re an annoying person. I bet you weren’t invited to birthday parties as a kid and pushed to hard to be accepted. Just relax and you will see that doors open up for you. Good luck.
Not the same person, I was agreeing with a different poster. but keep drinking that racist Koolaid!
100% you’re the same person. I am a racist? You should look in the mirror. Everyone is tired of you. Go away.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
I agree 100%. It's a message that needs to be sent. Better late than never!
Baloney. You’re the same person. Very sad to watch you continuously bring this up. Your fight is elsewhere…not with express. Also probably not with the woman who asked you or your friend to nicely get up so the kids could eat.
You clearly have an ax to grind and no one here is biting. Only thing you have achieved is that you’re an annoying person. I bet you weren’t invited to birthday parties as a kid and pushed to hard to be accepted. Just relax and you will see that doors open up for you. Good luck.
Not the same person, I was agreeing with a different poster. but keep drinking that racist Koolaid!
100% you’re the same person. I am a racist? You should look in the mirror. Everyone is tired of you. Go away.
Whoever. But being verse, familiar with many cultures, shades of people, the majority of lacrosse parents look at other races of people as being subpar to them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
This. People can argue about who represents the club and who doesn't, but the fact remains that it was an opportunity for the club to stand up and be an ally — use their platform to denounce racism and respect the game — and they didn't get off the couch. Huge missed opportunity. The message is that they don't care or aren't smart, or maybe both.
Great lacrosse talk on here...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
This. People can argue about who represents the club and who doesn't, but the fact remains that it was an opportunity for the club to stand up and be an ally — use their platform to denounce racism and respect the game — and they didn't get off the couch. Huge missed opportunity. The message is that they don't care or aren't smart, or maybe both.
What he said!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
This. People can argue about who represents the club and who doesn't, but the fact remains that it was an opportunity for the club to stand up and be an ally — use their platform to denounce racism and respect the game — and they didn't get off the couch. Huge missed opportunity. The message is that they don't care or aren't smart, or maybe both.
Please explain exactly what transpired.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
I agree 100%. It's a message that needs to be sent. Better late than never!
Baloney. You’re the same person. Very sad to watch you continuously bring this up. Your fight is elsewhere…not with express. Also probably not with the woman who asked you or your friend to nicely get up so the kids could eat.
You clearly have an ax to grind and no one here is biting. Only thing you have achieved is that you’re an annoying person. I bet you weren’t invited to birthday parties as a kid and pushed to hard to be accepted. Just relax and you will see that doors open up for you. Good luck.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
This. People can argue about who represents the club and who doesn't, but the fact remains that it was an opportunity for the club to stand up and be an ally — use their platform to denounce racism and respect the game — and they didn't get off the couch. Huge missed opportunity. The message is that they don't care or aren't smart, or maybe both.
Please stop with the social justice warrior/virtue signaling nonsense. Don't we get enough of this shoved down our throats every time we turn on the TV?
We read these forums to discuss lacrosse, not be lectured on how racist we all are.. Let it go..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
I agree 100%. It's a message that needs to be sent. Better late than never!
Baloney. You’re the same person. Very sad to watch you continuously bring this up. Your fight is elsewhere…not with express. Also probably not with the woman who asked you or your friend to nicely get up so the kids could eat.
You clearly have an ax to grind and no one here is biting. Only thing you have achieved is that you’re an annoying person. I bet you weren’t invited to birthday parties as a kid and pushed to hard to be accepted. Just relax and you will see that doors open up for you. Good luck.
Wrong. This subject is just clearly very personal for you and I 100% disagree with your opportunistic witch hunt approach to raise awareness on inclusion. You have singlehandedly hijacked this thread and continue to harass us all with your personal belief and moral pursuit. As with all things you will get much further with a more positive and inclusive approach to encourage others to get onboard with your beliefs. I wish you peace, happiness, and a more positive and subtle approach to push your moral agenda for future opportunities.
Travel youth lacrosse is a exclusive sport, period. I don't care what the talking heads say about growing the sport; it's all smoke and mirrors. Not all, but the majority of the parents are cut from the same pale cloth. Anyone who attempts to explain why they are not racist, sounds more like one doing so.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Travel youth lacrosse is a exclusive sport, period. I don't care what the talking heads say about growing the sport; it's all smoke and mirrors. Not all, but the majority of the parents are cut from the same pale cloth. Anyone who attempts to explain why they are not racist, sounds more like one doing so.
Holy WOKE Batman. You sound like a total hammerhead.
the problem is, because someone told you to move you blame it on racism . There are 2 different stories being told. what are we to believe. No one but the people involved know what happened , so its one word against another. Both sides have witnesses that back them up . so stalemate, and going out of your way to destroy that person on a public forum makes everyone believe you have a bigger agenda here.
I can’t believe that this is still a conversation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
Stop with your cancel culture Thing
Accountability. Not cancel culture.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I can’t believe that this is still a conversation.
I know, right? If you ignore something it's supposed to go away.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
Stop with your cancel culture Thing
Accountability. Not cancel culture.
Accountability for what? Please explain exactly what transpired.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
I agree 100%. It's a message that needs to be sent. Better late than never!
Baloney. You’re the same person. Very sad to watch you continuously bring this up. Your fight is elsewhere…not with express. Also probably not with the woman who asked you or your friend to nicely get up so the kids could eat.
You clearly have an ax to grind and no one here is biting. Only thing you have achieved is that you’re an annoying person. I bet you weren’t invited to birthday parties as a kid and pushed to hard to be accepted. Just relax and you will see that doors open up for you. Good luck.
Wrong. This subject is just clearly very personal for you and I 100% disagree with your opportunistic witch hunt approach to raise awareness on inclusion. You have singlehandedly hijacked this thread and continue to harass us all with your personal belief and moral pursuit. As with all things you will get much further with a more positive and inclusive approach to encourage others to get onboard with your beliefs. I wish you peace, happiness, and a more positive and subtle approach to push your moral agenda for future opportunities.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
Stop with your cancel culture Thing
Accountability. Not cancel culture.
Accountability for what? Please explain exactly what transpired.
Wow, Very happy that I didn’t hold my breath while waiting for an answer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
Stop with your cancel culture Thing
Accountability. Not cancel culture.
Accountability for what? Please explain exactly what transpired.
Wow, Very happy that I didn’t hold my breath while waiting for an answer.
It's too bad that you didn't, actually.
If nothing happened, why isn't the kid on the team anymore and why isn't he still going to SA as planned?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like a lot of Express parents making excuses for one of their own. If you don't think that we as parents are representing the club that we pay to be a part of at large events like this, you're kidding yourself.
I agree with you 100%. The parents are just making excuses. These are the same parents that dog WP for leaving a tournament after loosing a game calling it bad sportsman ship.
I believe as one of the oldest travel organization around they keepers of the game and have an obligation to make a statement in support. This is not about if they did something wrong as an organization or not it's simply about equity and empathy. The organization could have chosen to be an Allie but showed us who they are and stayed silent.
Stop with your cancel culture Thing
Accountability. Not cancel culture.
Accountability for what? Please explain exactly what transpired.
Wow, Very happy that I didn’t hold my breath while waiting for an answer.
At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
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Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
Chaney probably talked him into reclassifying like half the team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
If it’s not true then why were there formal statements released regarding the incident? The only ones who haven’t commented are the Express organization. Guess they condone it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
There have been two sides to this story on here and one account where someone says they saw it on film. Hopefully Express watched the film? Maybe they did?
If someone does have the film of it, show it and we can make up our own thoughts on it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
This is everyone's account of what transpired. The crickets from Express is honestly disgusting.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
This is everyone's account of what transpired. The crickets from Express is honestly disgusting.
No, it is not everyone’s account.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
This is everyone's account of what transpired. The crickets from Express is honestly disgusting.
No, it is not everyone’s account.
It’s obviously not everyone’s take away , as you can see the difference of opinions of people posting on here. Some that witnessed it in person , as well. There Seems to be people on both sides as to what transpired. Did she say “you don’t belong here” meaning at that table? Or , meaning at the event? Would she have said that to any group sitting there ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
This is everyone's account of what transpired. The crickets from Express is honestly disgusting.
Yes. And it is absolutely terrible that Express is still trying to defend themselves and pretend it didn’t happen. How about you apologize and mean it. Then we can move on. Why is that so hard? It is disgusting!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
This is everyone's account of what transpired. The crickets from Express is honestly disgusting.
Yes. And it is absolutely terrible that Express is still trying to defend themselves and pretend it didn’t happen. How about you apologize and mean it. Then we can move on. Why is that so hard? It is disgusting!
It's exactly the type of culture the owner of Express encourages, from the youngest team to the oldest. Put the entire organization together for a group picture and you will find very little contrast in the picture. It's embarrassing to listen to some of the comments parents pass regarding kids, especially holding onto a red Solo cup. Many parents of these kids and young men feel as though they are entitled, entitled to what, I don't know. I taught my kid to friend people until they give you a reason not to. I can only say, WSYL was a bad look and I wasn't surprised it happened.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
This is everyone's account of what transpired. The crickets from Express is honestly disgusting.
Yes. And it is absolutely terrible that Express is still trying to defend themselves and pretend it didn’t happen. How about you apologize and mean it. Then we can move on. Why is that so hard? It is disgusting!
So one person says " you dont belong ". And it is a national incident? I doubt if they apologize this would end it with the woke crowd and you.
Simple solution, get rid of lady and a simple statement. But that is never enough. Dont have a clue about this except, that this is the stuff that polarizes people more than brings them together .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
This is everyone's account of what transpired. The crickets from Express is honestly disgusting.
Yes. And it is absolutely terrible that Express is still trying to defend themselves and pretend it didn’t happen. How about you apologize and mean it. Then we can move on. Why is that so hard? It is disgusting!
It's exactly the type of culture the owner of Express encourages, from the youngest team to the oldest. Put the entire organization together for a group picture and you will find very little contrast in the picture. It's embarrassing to listen to some of the comments parents pass regarding kids, especially holding onto a red Solo cup. Many parents of these kids and young men feel as though they are entitled, entitled to what, I don't know. I taught my kid to friend people until they give you a reason not to. I can only say, WSYL was a bad look and I wasn't surprised it happened.
Everyone agrees that you're a liar and a bafoon. My kid doesn't even play for Express and I can see you're an Express hater. Go crawl back under that rock you came out from.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
This is everyone's account of what transpired. The crickets from Express is honestly disgusting.
Yes. And it is absolutely terrible that Express is still trying to defend themselves and pretend it didn’t happen. How about you apologize and mean it. Then we can move on. Why is that so hard? It is disgusting!
It's exactly the type of culture the owner of Express encourages, from the youngest team to the oldest. Put the entire organization together for a group picture and you will find very little contrast in the picture. It's embarrassing to listen to some of the comments parents pass regarding kids, especially holding onto a red Solo cup. Many parents of these kids and young men feel as though they are entitled, entitled to what, I don't know. I taught my kid to friend people until they give you a reason not to. I can only say, WSYL was a bad look and I wasn't surprised it happened.
Express organization are full of a bunch of parents and kids who feel entitled and special ! Get over yourselves, and start showing some class. There is More to life than lacrosse! They need to teach their kids that. Be respectful and humble. Those are good qualities and will serve your kid better in “real life”!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
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Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
This is everyone's account of what transpired. The crickets from Express is honestly disgusting.
Yes. And it is absolutely terrible that Express is still trying to defend themselves and pretend it didn’t happen. How about you apologize and mean it. Then we can move on. Why is that so hard? It is disgusting!
So one person says " you dont belong ". And it is a national incident? I doubt if they apologize this would end it with the woke crowd and you.
Simple solution, get rid of lady and a simple statement. But that is never enough. Dont have a clue about this except, that this is the stuff that polarizes people more than brings them together .
One person trying to disrupt and they clearly get off on getting any kind of response. No sense talking reason with this person. Many have tried. Waste of time and only fans the flame. Let’s move on from ever responding to this person.
The only time in youth lacrosse that teams from across the world and country get together to break bread and socialize away from the field and Express parents ruin it! Whatever the Express apologist have to say can't take away the embarrassment for Jake, his sponsors and all the other teams that heard and watched two TEAMS walk out in the middle of a dinner. Jake obviously wants to keep Express happy and won't punish or force them to speak on the incident. But Jake did feel the pressure and noted that unacceptable behavior wouldn't be tolerated during his remarks at the championship games. Unfortunately he has done nothing since then. No one should expect the Lax Bros Express organization to take responsible actions. Not that kind of program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
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Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
This is everyone's account of what transpired. The crickets from Express is honestly disgusting.
Yes. And it is absolutely terrible that Express is still trying to defend themselves and pretend it didn’t happen. How about you apologize and mean it. Then we can move on. Why is that so hard? It is disgusting!
It's exactly the type of culture the owner of Express encourages, from the youngest team to the oldest. Put the entire organization together for a group picture and you will find very little contrast in the picture. It's embarrassing to listen to some of the comments parents pass regarding kids, especially holding onto a red Solo cup. Many parents of these kids and young men feel as though they are entitled, entitled to what, I don't know. I taught my kid to friend people until they give you a reason not to. I can only say, WSYL was a bad look and I wasn't surprised it happened.
Express organization are full of a bunch of parents and kids who feel entitled and special ! Get over yourselves, and start showing some class. There is More to life than lacrosse! They need to teach their kids that. Be respectful and humble. Those are good qualities and will serve your kid better in “real life”!
Yes! It's never too late to do the right thing! Horrible role models for young men!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
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Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
This is everyone's account of what transpired. The crickets from Express is honestly disgusting.
Yes. And it is absolutely terrible that Express is still trying to defend themselves and pretend it didn’t happen. How about you apologize and mean it. Then we can move on. Why is that so hard? It is disgusting!
It's exactly the type of culture the owner of Express encourages, from the youngest team to the oldest. Put the entire organization together for a group picture and you will find very little contrast in the picture. It's embarrassing to listen to some of the comments parents pass regarding kids, especially holding onto a red Solo cup. Many parents of these kids and young men feel as though they are entitled, entitled to what, I don't know. I taught my kid to friend people until they give you a reason not to. I can only say, WSYL was a bad look and I wasn't surprised it happened.
Express organization are full of a bunch of parents and kids who feel entitled and special ! Get over yourselves, and start showing some class. There is More to life than lacrosse! They need to teach their kids that. Be respectful and humble. Those are good qualities and will serve your kid better in “real life”!
Yes! It's never too late to do the right thing! Horrible role models for young men!
The same person commenting on their own comments. Go away already. No one wants to hear it.
Not the same person, sorry. There are way more than one person outraged that Express condones racist remarks from members. Not that hard to do the right thing! But you are the same person who thinks if you tell people to stop standing up for human rights that we will listen. You want the comments to stop, yet you keep commenting? Not the sharpest!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not the same person, sorry. There are way more than one person outraged that Express condones racist remarks from members. Not that hard to do the right thing! But you are the same person who thinks if you tell people to stop standing up for human rights that we will listen. You want the comments to stop, yet you keep commenting? Not the sharpest!
That was my first comment. My second one is a question. You act like you know the full circumstances. Do you have first hand knowledge (Were you there to witness this)? I'll answer that, no you weren't. Don't preach human rights to me.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not the same person, sorry. There are way more than one person outraged that Express condones racist remarks from members. Not that hard to do the right thing! But you are the same person who thinks if you tell people to stop standing up for human rights that we will listen. You want the comments to stop, yet you keep commenting? Not the sharpest!
That was my first comment. My second one is a question. You act like you know the full circumstances. Do you have first hand knowledge (Were you there to witness this)? I'll answer that, no you weren't. Don't preach human rights to me.
Didn’t have to be there. Twitter blew up with the details including a picture of the bigot after her rant, and the statement from the victims. I guess they made it all up? We’re you there? Let’s here your version and then tell me why nobody believes it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not the same person, sorry. There are way more than one person outraged that Express condones racist remarks from members. Not that hard to do the right thing! But you are the same person who thinks if you tell people to stop standing up for human rights that we will listen. You want the comments to stop, yet you keep commenting? Not the sharpest!
That was my first comment. My second one is a question. You act like you know the full circumstances. Do you have first hand knowledge (Were you there to witness this)? I'll answer that, no you weren't. Don't preach human rights to me.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not the same person, sorry. There are way more than one person outraged that Express condones racist remarks from members. Not that hard to do the right thing! But you are the same person who thinks if you tell people to stop standing up for human rights that we will listen. You want the comments to stop, yet you keep commenting? Not the sharpest!
That was my first comment. My second one is a question. You act like you know the full circumstances. Do you have first hand knowledge (Were you there to witness this)? I'll answer that, no you weren't. Don't preach human rights to me.
Didn’t have to be there. Twitter blew up with the details including a picture of the bigot after her rant, and the statement from the victims. I guess they made it all up? We’re you there? Let’s here your version and then tell me why nobody believes it.
"Didn't have to be there". You are the worst type of person, Intolerant, judgmental, and oh so easily offended. "The victims", really "the victims", "Bigot", "Rant".... Give it a rest already. Correct me if I am wrong but was't this all about some kids being asked to move from a table that was not assigned to them? Is that what caused all of this? What exactly was said or done that would indicate that there was racism involved?
Were people in fact sitting at a table that was reserved for others?
Did the individuals who were sitting at the table not have a table reserved for them as well?
Were the tables reserved for the players only (not parents)?
Were there adults sitting at a table that was reserved for players?
What specifically was said? Please don't throw the term "racist rant" around if you do not have details.
It sounds to me that there was a disagreement and a verbal confrontation that some have tried to blow up into something more than it is.
How about this, get over it. Teach your kids to learn to deal with all situations and not to be "offended" every time someone says something or does something that they do not like or that they disagree with.
I have not read a single post detailing the specifics of exactly what happened, just the usual nonsense... "she went on a racist rant" and for the most part that has been stated by people who were not there or those who were not in close proximity to the table in question.
What you’re doing is not freedom of speech it’s hearsay, harassment, and defamation of character.
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What you’re doing is not freedom of speech it’s hearsay, harassment, and defamation of character.
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
Lol, guess nothing happened. Everyone just making up lies and the team walked out for no reason
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
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Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
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Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
There have been two sides to this story on here and one account where someone says they saw it on film. Hopefully Express watched the film? Maybe they did?
If someone does have the film of it, show it and we can make up our own thoughts on it.
These days everyone pulls out their phones and starts recording every little confrontation/situation that goes on. How is it that there is not a bunch of videos of this incident?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
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Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
There have been two sides to this story on here and one account where someone says they saw it on film. Hopefully Express watched the film? Maybe they did?
If someone does have the film of it, show it and we can make up our own thoughts on it.
These days everyone pulls out their phones and starts recording every little confrontation/situation that goes on. How is it that there is not a bunch of videos of this incident?
Simple, because it didn't happen the way some people act like it happened.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—-“At WSYL an Express mom went on a racist rant targeting a Native American team. She stated that "they did not belong". The team then stated that they would no longer participate in WSYL. WSYL, Inside Lacrosse, and several lacrosse ambassadors put out statements in support of the Native Americans. Crickets from Express.”—
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Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
*********************************************************
Oh please, were you there?
Nonsense, I do not believe your account of what transpired to be accurate.
There have been two sides to this story on here and one account where someone says they saw it on film. Hopefully Express watched the film? Maybe they did?
If someone does have the film of it, show it and we can make up our own thoughts on it.
These days everyone pulls out their phones and starts recording every little confrontation/situation that goes on. How is it that there is not a bunch of videos of this incident?
That's a very good question, why is there not a dozen videos of this "racist rant" that occurred in front of all these people.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, what is your point?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What you’re doing is not freedom of speech it’s hearsay, harassment, and defamation of character.
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
You have the freedom to speak until it is proven that you meet the elements of defamation or harassment according to requisite statutes of your locality and has been determined by the criminal or civil court in prosecution or b civil lawsuit and been ruled against by the same.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What you’re doing is not freedom of speech it’s hearsay, harassment, and defamation of character.
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
You have the freedom to speak until it is proven that you meet the elements of defamation or harassment according to requisite statutes of your locality and has been determined by the criminal or civil court in prosecution or b civil lawsuit and been ruled against by the same.
Wow. Interesting stuff here that nobody cares about. Don't let that distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, "Spare Tire" Dixon
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What you’re doing is not freedom of speech it’s hearsay, harassment, and defamation of character.
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
You have the freedom to speak until it is proven that you meet the elements of defamation or harassment according to requisite statutes of your locality and has been determined by the criminal or civil court in prosecution or b civil lawsuit and been ruled against by the same.
Wow. Interesting stuff here that nobody cares about. Don't let that distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, "Spare Tire" Dixon
Specifically, YOU don't care. Please don't advocate for everybody. What you wrote is a nonsensical rant in retort to someone's statement that you didn't like. Interresting
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What you’re doing is not freedom of speech it’s hearsay, harassment, and defamation of character.
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
Defamation is the oral or written communication of a false statement about another that unjustly harms their reputation and usually constitutes a tort or crime.
You have the freedom to speak until it is proven that you meet the elements of defamation or harassment according to requisite statutes of your locality and has been determined by the criminal or civil court in prosecution or b civil lawsuit and been ruled against by the same.
Wow. Interesting stuff here that nobody cares about. Don't let that distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, "Spare Tire" Dixon
Jumped the shark
If it was on Twitter must be true. Everything on the internet is true. I read that on the internet. 😆
NY woman told other team they don't belong at that table as it was reserved for another team, and then it turned into, "Oh, we don't belong because of our skin!?". Typical outrage victim response and paint the white woman as a racist. Express was right to not even acknowledge the race baiting. WYSL on the other hand did the woke thing and condemned it despite it being 100% their fault for terrible planning for the banquet that caused the whole issue. Move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NY woman told other team they don't belong at that table as it was reserved for another team, and then it turned into, "Oh, we don't belong because of our skin!?". Typical outrage victim response and paint the white woman as a racist. Express was right to not even acknowledge the race baiting. WYSL on the other hand did the woke thing and condemned it despite it being 100% their fault for terrible planning for the banquet that caused the whole issue. Move on.
Um...OK Karen....multiple sources see it a different way. Typical white privilege talking here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NY woman told other team they don't belong at that table as it was reserved for another team, and then it turned into, "Oh, we don't belong because of our skin!?". Typical outrage victim response and paint the white woman as a racist. Express was right to not even acknowledge the race baiting. WYSL on the other hand did the woke thing and condemned it despite it being 100% their fault for terrible planning for the banquet that caused the whole issue. Move on.
Um...OK Karen....multiple sources see it a different way. Typical white privilege talking here.
Yet you think it is perfectly fine to use “Karen” a derogatory term.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NY woman told other team they don't belong at that table as it was reserved for another team, and then it turned into, "Oh, we don't belong because of our skin!?". Typical outrage victim response and paint the white woman as a racist. Express was right to not even acknowledge the race baiting. WYSL on the other hand did the woke thing and condemned it despite it being 100% their fault for terrible planning for the banquet that caused the whole issue. Move on.
Um...OK Karen....multiple sources see it a different way. Typical white privilege talking here.
Were “those multiple sources” there? Let’s just hear from people who were actually there, and their take on it. Could it simply be , the parents were mad their kids couldn’t sit down and the adults were sitting there? Lashed out at the adults sitting? Maybe not racially motivated???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NY woman told other team they don't belong at that table as it was reserved for another team, and then it turned into, "Oh, we don't belong because of our skin!?". Typical outrage victim response and paint the white woman as a racist. Express was right to not even acknowledge the race baiting. WYSL on the other hand did the woke thing and condemned it despite it being 100% their fault for terrible planning for the banquet that caused the whole issue. Move on.
Um...OK Karen....multiple sources see it a different way. Typical white privilege talking here.
Dominican here
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NY woman told other team they don't belong at that table as it was reserved for another team, and then it turned into, "Oh, we don't belong because of our skin!?". Typical outrage victim response and paint the white woman as a racist. Express was right to not even acknowledge the race baiting. WYSL on the other hand did the woke thing and condemned it despite it being 100% their fault for terrible planning for the banquet that caused the whole issue. Move on.
Um...OK Karen....multiple sources see it a different way. Typical white privilege talking here.
Hope your outrage doesn't keep you awake at night. You're a headache!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NY woman told other team they don't belong at that table as it was reserved for another team, and then it turned into, "Oh, we don't belong because of our skin!?". Typical outrage victim response and paint the white woman as a racist. Express was right to not even acknowledge the race baiting. WYSL on the other hand did the woke thing and condemned it despite it being 100% their fault for terrible planning for the banquet that caused the whole issue. Move on.
Um...OK Karen....multiple sources see it a different way. Typical white privilege talking here.
Who’s the racist now?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NY woman told other team they don't belong at that table as it was reserved for another team, and then it turned into, "Oh, we don't belong because of our skin!?". Typical outrage victim response and paint the white woman as a racist. Express was right to not even acknowledge the race baiting. WYSL on the other hand did the woke thing and condemned it despite it being 100% their fault for terrible planning for the banquet that caused the whole issue. Move on.
Um...OK Karen....multiple sources see it a different way. Typical white privilege talking here.
But seriously, if you think she’s a “Karen”? Then, don’t you think she would have said “you don’t belong here” meaning “at the table” to anyone other than Express people it was reserved for!? I think she would have lashed out at anyone other than Express team that was sitting there? Just saying
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NY woman told other team they don't belong at that table as it was reserved for another team, and then it turned into, "Oh, we don't belong because of our skin!?". Typical outrage victim response and paint the white woman as a racist. Express was right to not even acknowledge the race baiting. WYSL on the other hand did the woke thing and condemned it despite it being 100% their fault for terrible planning for the banquet that caused the whole issue. Move on.
Um...OK Karen....multiple sources see it a different way. Typical white privilege talking here.
But seriously, if you think she’s a “Karen”? Then, don’t you think she would have said “you don’t belong here” meaning “at the table” to anyone other than Express people it was reserved for!? I think she would have lashed out at anyone other than Express team that was sitting there? Just saying
I agree, it is likely less a race thing, more a bossy donk thing. Its just that it was said to the wrong person and most definitely the lady could have been more diplomatic. She didnt think or care about what she was saying , how it could be construed and by whom. She confronted the wrong one. Play notIntelligent games get notIntelligent prizes. I mean nobody likes bossy jerks, also y she is being destroyed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion on this we got the full spectrum.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NY woman told other team they don't belong at that table as it was reserved for another team, and then it turned into, "Oh, we don't belong because of our skin!?". Typical outrage victim response and paint the white woman as a racist. Express was right to not even acknowledge the race baiting. WYSL on the other hand did the woke thing and condemned it despite it being 100% their fault for terrible planning for the banquet that caused the whole issue. Move on.
Um...OK Karen....multiple sources see it a different way. Typical white privilege talking here.
But seriously, if you think she’s a “Karen”? Then, don’t you think she would have said “you don’t belong here” meaning “at the table” to anyone other than Express people it was reserved for!? I think she would have lashed out at anyone other than Express team that was sitting there? Just saying
I agree, it is likely less a race thing, more a bossy donk thing. Its just that it was said to the wrong person and most definitely the lady could have been more diplomatic. She didnt think or care about what she was saying , how it could be construed and by whom. She confronted the wrong one. Play notIntelligent games get notIntelligent prizes. I mean nobody likes bossy jerks, also y she is being destroyed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion on this we got the full spectrum.
You keep taking what you've read on social media as gospel. The truth is not what you believe it to be. Keep giving on here and headache with your unintelligent BS though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NY woman told other team they don't belong at that table as it was reserved for another team, and then it turned into, "Oh, we don't belong because of our skin!?". Typical outrage victim response and paint the white woman as a racist. Express was right to not even acknowledge the race baiting. WYSL on the other hand did the woke thing and condemned it despite it being 100% their fault for terrible planning for the banquet that caused the whole issue. Move on.
Um...OK Karen....multiple sources see it a different way. Typical white privilege talking here.
But seriously, if you think she’s a “Karen”? Then, don’t you think she would have said “you don’t belong here” meaning “at the table” to anyone other than Express people it was reserved for!? I think she would have lashed out at anyone other than Express team that was sitting there? Just saying
I agree, it is likely less a race thing, more a bossy donk thing. Its just that it was said to the wrong person and most definitely the lady could have been more diplomatic. She didnt think or care about what she was saying , how it could be construed and by whom. She confronted the wrong one. Play notIntelligent games get notIntelligent prizes. I mean nobody likes bossy jerks, also y she is being destroyed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion on this we got the full spectrum.
You keep taking what you've read on social media as gospel. The truth is not what you believe it to be. Keep giving on here and headache with your unintelligent BS though.
Another take on this … The lady was wrong and being obnoxious and how she spoke. From how it sounds… I really think she would have talked to the pope like that if he was in her sons seat!! So, don’t believe it was racial!
Also, the son should not feel any repercussions from the team or people regarding this!!! He is not at fault!!! Many kids have really dense parents! Kids should not suffer from their parents actions.
Recommendation: stop replying to this thread. Let’s cancel cancel culture and move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Recommendation: stop replying to this thread. Let’s cancel cancel culture and move on.
Wasnt this like 1000 years ago? Move on
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasnt this like 1000 years ago? Move on
Four months ago.
It’s just so funny how every club has its nay sayers. I will say one thing with Express my son has fun and likes his teammates and the parents are pleasant to be around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s just so funny how every club has its nay sayers. I will say one thing with Express my son has fun and likes his teammates and the parents are pleasant to be around.
I can find pleasant parents and fun teammates for a whole lot less money!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s just so funny how every club has its nay sayers. I will say one thing with Express my son has fun and likes his teammates and the parents are pleasant to be around.
I can find pleasant parents and fun teammates for a whole lot less money!!!!
Congratulations , then move on and go do it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s just so funny how every club has its nay sayers. I will say one thing with Express my son has fun and likes his teammates and the parents are pleasant to be around.
I can find pleasant parents and fun teammates for a whole lot less money!!!!
Congratulations , then move on and go do it.
Really, for whole lot less. Most of the discount clubs fold