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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/20 02:07 AM
Anyone know what happened in Hershey with Madlax and Hawks?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/20 10:00 AM
They play today
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/20 03:56 PM
MadLax beat Hawks 5-4. Both teams 4-0 going into the game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/20 03:57 PM
Actually 6-4 Madlax
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/17/20 02:41 PM
Crabs beat Cutters 5-4. Crazy to think of that a year ago, crabs must have improved big time.
Will be interesting to see if this cutters bunch stays together with the True change, 29s playing with 28s etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/06/20 02:39 PM
This division seems incredibly close with the following teams all winning some and losing some:
MadLax, USS, Hawks, Crabs, FCA

Any thoughts on where they head moving forward?
Madlax - (?) No first hand knowledge
USS - (down?) Seems like the move to True isn't going smoothly
Crabs - (up?) New coach next year? 35+/- at tryouts but no new standouts.
FCA - (?) No first hand knowledge
Hawks - (up?) Apparently 10+ other A team players going to tryouts. No idea how good they are.
Hoco - (?)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/07/20 03:01 PM
2028 is a fun age group and a shame that HoCo didn’t happen in the spring. Madlax is at the top and Next level is a very good team at this group but has not played a lot this summer. BLC is decent as well. HoCo pink and Green hornets both played the highest level of HoCo and had success there and in tournaments. The landscape is crowded with improved Crabs team and a Hawks team that also has picked up players. Transitions for True for USS and Mesa for GH appear to not be going well. Are HoCo pink, USS and GH kids leaving those programs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/09/20 03:42 AM
I only know about true and Mesa but yes there are a bunch known to be trying out for the Hawks. I believe 2 (definitely at least 1) hoco player joined crabs but I don’t know if any others are moving.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/10/20 02:45 PM
If Mesa and Green Hornets are sep orgs why do they have tryouts at the same place and time? If Mesa is having GH pay and reserve fields for them that should be reported to Anne arundel county. We don't need to subsidize for-profit corps acting like rec programs!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/10/20 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If Mesa and Green Hornets are sep orgs why do they have tryouts at the same place and time? If Mesa is having GH pay and reserve fields for them that should be reported to Anne arundel county. We don't need to subsidize for-profit corps acting like rec programs!
How many forums are you going to post this on until you get an answer? No one cares as much as you do as long as the kids get to play! Get over it!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/10/20 04:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If Mesa and Green Hornets are sep orgs why do they have tryouts at the same place and time? If Mesa is having GH pay and reserve fields for them that should be reported to Anne arundel county. We don't need to subsidize for-profit corps acting like rec programs!
How many forums are you going to post this on until you get an answer? No one cares as much as you do as long as the kids get to play! Get over it!

Those fields are and resources are set aside for rec non-profit organizations first. That's not just using Severna Park resources, that's taking money from all the county tax payers. If that's what's happening that needs to stop immediately.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/11/20 03:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If Mesa and Green Hornets are sep orgs why do they have tryouts at the same place and time? If Mesa is having GH pay and reserve fields for them that should be reported to Anne arundel county. We don't need to subsidize for-profit corps acting like rec programs!
How many forums are you going to post this on until you get an answer? No one cares as much as you do as long as the kids get to play! Get over it!

Those fields are and resources are set aside for rec non-profit organizations first. That's not just using Severna Park resources, that's taking money from all the county tax payers. If that's what's happening that needs to stop immediately.

Who are you to know the details of what arrangements any club has with a county unless you work for either. You want to know if they are, call the county! Better yet, make a fool of yourself and call your club director and ask your questions just like you do on here. Don’t go onto multiple Anonymous lacrosse forums and moan about it. Do you even have a kid who plays? Or are you just looking to complain about something because the pandemic has you going coo-coo. I can not say I have ever met anyone who cares how/why a club gets permission to use whatever field for whatever reason.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/11/20 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If Mesa and Green Hornets are sep orgs why do they have tryouts at the same place and time? If Mesa is having GH pay and reserve fields for them that should be reported to Anne arundel county. We don't need to subsidize for-profit corps acting like rec programs!
How many forums are you going to post this on until you get an answer? No one cares as much as you do as long as the kids get to play! Get over it!

He sounds salty about the merger/acquisition. Have your kid tryout for a team other than Mesa/Green Hornets.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/11/20 08:20 PM
I have no dog in this hunt, but I do know from experience that travel teams using rec field space can be a touchy subject. Field space for travel teams is in-demand and expensive; teams compete for quality space just like they do for good coaches and players. Rec teams are non-profits and work under a different set of rules. If a for-profit travel team is partnering with a rec program to use county fields under the rec permits, that could end badly for one or both of them.
Having said that, it is interesting that these two people (pro and con) are so emotional and adamant about the issue.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/11/20 10:56 PM
FCA 2028 won Summer Exposure. Cutters 2028 went 4-0 to earn the #1 seed but lost in bracket play to HoCo Pink 2028. Hawks 2028 didn't win a game (must have been missing some kids?). But it was a competitive, wide open tournament.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/12/20 11:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no dog in this hunt, but I do know from experience that travel teams using rec field space can be a touchy subject. Field space for travel teams is in-demand and expensive; teams compete for quality space just like they do for good coaches and players. Rec teams are non-profits and work under a different set of rules. If a for-profit travel team is partnering with a rec program to use county fields under the rec permits, that could end badly for one or both of them.
Having said that, it is interesting that these two people (pro and con) are so emotional and adamant about the issue.
I don’t think the responder was emotional and adamant, more annoyed and poking fun, but maybe i read it differently, darn anonymous forum on the internet!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/13/20 05:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FCA 2028 won Summer Exposure. Cutters 2028 went 4-0 to earn the #1 seed but lost in bracket play to HoCo Pink 2028. Hawks 2028 didn't win a game (must have been missing some kids?). But it was a competitive, wide open tournament.
Hawks were missing 3 middies. They were up in most games but just ran out of gas as the games wore on. I think all their games were within 1 or 2. The division was very competitive. Crabs, FCA, Cutters, Hawks, Cavaliers and Hoco were all very comparable. Cutters went 4-0 but lost to crabs 2x the week before, Hawks beat FCA by 4 or 5 a week ago. These teams will make a fun division next year. As much as I would like to see my kid on a team that is head and shoulders above everyone else it doesn't make for interesting games and competition.

I can't imagine Hoco stays with the others, I see a lot of Hoco helmets on Crabs, FCA etc. Highly doubt (just from history) any kids are jumping the other way. Madlax is also in that group but they didn't play that last tourney.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/23/20 01:56 AM
So after all the hype there's no Mesa 28 team which was one of Severna Park's strongest select teams? Literally drove most of the strong players and coaches to Hawks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/23/20 01:32 PM
Why’d they leave?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/23/20 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why’d they leave?

Because the 28 Hawks are going to be really good this year. Added some Anne Arundel talent and some kids dropped down from that incredible 27 team (because they were already 28s playing up not holdbacks). Being good at this young age is not about bragging rights at all - it is about raising the level of practices and game play which impacts every player. They all get better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/23/20 03:42 PM
Wow. How many kids are they carrying?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/24/20 02:53 AM
I believe there will be two teams for hawks 28.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/24/20 01:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after all the hype there's no Mesa 28 team which was one of Severna Park's strongest select teams? Literally drove most of the strong players and coaches to Hawks.

I believe one of the GH coaches is coaching the Hawks Black team. I don't have any inside knowledge and we all know how offers for 2nd teams work, but you could make a very good 2nd team from the players at tryouts depending on who accepts. The first team will be very tough to beat. They were already very competitive and got a lot better assuming everyone accepts offers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 08/24/20 01:10 PM
Anyone know how USS/True tryouts went and what they are going to do with respect to A/B team shore/Annapolis? Their website has something about deciding which team would be their A and which would be there B after tryouts.

There's going to be some interesting juggling because I assume most of the best players are from the shore/USS at 28 but long term there are just more kids in Annapolis/Anne Arundel to build the team with.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 09/30/20 01:38 PM
Did Cutters dissolve and move to True? That's too bad, they were a good team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 09/30/20 07:00 PM
Based on the fall HoCo and summer looks like Next Level and Madlax will be the top teams for now in this age group. With then FCA next and perhaps a reloaded Hawks team somewhere in there? Then Crabs and HoCo and maybe some others below that? Any teams missing from this?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 09/30/20 07:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no dog in this hunt, but I do know from experience that travel teams using rec field space can be a touchy subject. Field space for travel teams is in-demand and expensive; teams compete for quality space just like they do for good coaches and players. Rec teams are non-profits and work under a different set of rules. If a for-profit travel team is partnering with a rec program to use county fields under the rec permits, that could end badly for one or both of them.
Having said that, it is interesting that these two people (pro and con) are so emotional and adamant about the issue.

it's possible that green hornets are outsourcing some coaching, skills training etc to Mesa. Mesa probably gets paid by the community lacrosse program, they use county fields, so less expensive overall but they get to put a club affiliation out there for marketing
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 09/30/20 08:24 PM
True/USS should be good and then a pretty big drop off. Not sure about BLC for elite with recent struggles but they probably stay and Kelly Post might as well. Severna Park imploded with the Mesa debacle so their talent scattered. After that it is a guess with cannons, HLC and other teams that played a division down in spring 2019 which seems like a million years ago. What fall tournaments is everyone doing?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 09/30/20 09:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no dog in this hunt, but I do know from experience that travel teams using rec field space can be a touchy subject. Field space for travel teams is in-demand and expensive; teams compete for quality space just like they do for good coaches and players. Rec teams are non-profits and work under a different set of rules. If a for-profit travel team is partnering with a rec program to use county fields under the rec permits, that could end badly for one or both of them.
Having said that, it is interesting that these two people (pro and con) are so emotional and adamant about the issue.

it's possible that green hornets are outsourcing some coaching, skills training etc to Mesa. Mesa probably gets paid by the community lacrosse program, they use county fields, so less expensive overall but they get to put a club affiliation out there for marketing
Great model until they get caught.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/01/20 01:17 PM
Next Level 2028 is scary good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/01/20 02:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Next Level 2028 is scary good.
it helps to be 27s in a 28 bracket.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/01/20 02:23 PM
HoCo was good last spring, are they still around?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/01/20 02:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Next Level 2028 is scary good.
That's awesome NL dad. Good luck in fall tournaments with your scary good team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/01/20 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Next Level 2028 is scary good.
That's awesome NL dad. Good luck in fall tournaments with your scary good team.

Please see the 2022 or 2023 boards to get up to speed
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/01/20 05:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Next Level 2028 is scary good.
That's awesome NL dad. Good luck in fall tournaments with your scary good team.

Please see the 2022 or 2023 boards to get up to speed
?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/01/20 09:38 PM
LOL! It's Fall lacrosse for 5th graders. We played Next Level and they are deep, but I wouldn't say dominant. When all the football kids return for Spring HOCO season, it will be a different story.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/02/20 01:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HoCo was good last spring, are they still around?

HOCO Pink 2028 is still around but most of the team moved over to FCA Blue. The team is probably not a AA team anymore, but will be a very competitive and solid A team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/02/20 01:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HoCo was good last spring, are they still around?

HOCO Pink 2028 is still around but most of the team moved over to FCA Blue. The team is probably not a AA team anymore, but will be a very competitive and solid A team.

Interesting. Is there a Looneys 2028 team? Haven’t seen them around at any of the tournaments? And USS is now True, but some of those players went to Hawks?

How does Crabs stack up against FCA?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/02/20 12:22 PM
As of now FCA > Crabs. FCA has some offensive firepower.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/02/20 01:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HoCo was good last spring, are they still around?

HOCO Pink 2028 is still around but most of the team moved over to FCA Blue. The team is probably not a AA team anymore, but will be a very competitive and solid A team.

Interesting. Is there a Looneys 2028 team? Haven’t seen them around at any of the tournaments? And USS is now True, but some of those players went to Hawks?

How does Crabs stack up against FCA?

Looneys does not have a 2028 team. FCA Blue was already a stacked team and now they have added all those HOCO Pink kids. They are better than the Crabs.
Looks like the AA teams in HOCO next spring will be FCA Blue, Next Level, Mad Lax, Crabs, Hawks, and maybe a couple others that are not on the level of the teams mentioned.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/02/20 07:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HoCo was good last spring, are they still around?

HOCO Pink 2028 is still around but most of the team moved over to FCA Blue. The team is probably not a AA team anymore, but will be a very competitive and solid A team.

Interesting. Is there a Looneys 2028 team? Haven’t seen them around at any of the tournaments? And USS is now True, but some of those players went to Hawks?

How does Crabs stack up against FCA?

Couple of 27 Hawks held back to 28 this year. Not sure which ones but that was a really good 27 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/03/20 11:20 PM
The 27 hawks that are on the 27 team were playing up. 3 very good players plus about 8 other new kids. Hawks now have an A and B team which I don’t think happens often for the Hawks. They aren’t playing a fall league so it will be interesting to see how good they are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/11/20 11:42 PM
Great scheduling by the HOCO officials to have the 28 Championship game right before the 27 Championship. It allowed the new FCA 28 team and Coach to catch up with their old team. By the our 27’s team count there are at least 7 kids who moved down. 5th grade must be tough in Baltimore
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/12/20 02:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great scheduling by the HOCO officials to have the 28 Championship game right before the 27 Championship. It allowed the new FCA 28 team and Coach to catch up with their old team. By the our 27’s team count there are at least 7 kids who moved down. 5th grade must be tough in Baltimore

It is called holding them back to catch up with all the other holdbacks, Its spreading to all parts of country, join in or play D2
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/12/20 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great scheduling by the HOCO officials to have the 28 Championship game right before the 27 Championship. It allowed the new FCA 28 team and Coach to catch up with their old team. By the our 27’s team count there are at least 7 kids who moved down. 5th grade must be tough in Baltimore

False. You must be a bitter Next Level parent. FCA Blue got better because of a large number of HOCO Pink kids joining the team, as well as the HOCO Pink coach taking over the team. Don’t be a hater.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/12/20 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great scheduling by the HOCO officials to have the 28 Championship game right before the 27 Championship. It allowed the new FCA 28 team and Coach to catch up with their old team. By the our 27’s team count there are at least 7 kids who moved down. 5th grade must be tough in Baltimore

I'm not sure I understand. Somehow this reads as if 7 FCA's from the 2027's were told to play in the 2028 championship game on the day of the game. Or the NL parent is saying they saw 7 2027's earlier in the season who switched to 2028 mid-season. Please explain.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/12/20 04:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great scheduling by the HOCO officials to have the 28 Championship game right before the 27 Championship. It allowed the new FCA 28 team and Coach to catch up with their old team. By the our 27’s team count there are at least 7 kids who moved down. 5th grade must be tough in Baltimore

False. You must be a bitter Next Level parent. FCA Blue got better because of a large number of HOCO Pink kids joining the team, as well as the HOCO Pink coach taking over the team. Don’t be a hater.

HoCo Pink 2027 or 2028?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/12/20 07:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great scheduling by the HOCO officials to have the 28 Championship game right before the 27 Championship. It allowed the new FCA 28 team and Coach to catch up with their old team. By the our 27’s team count there are at least 7 kids who moved down. 5th grade must be tough in Baltimore

False. You must be a bitter Next Level parent. FCA Blue got better because of a large number of HOCO Pink kids joining the team, as well as the HOCO Pink coach taking over the team. Don’t be a hater.

HoCo Pink 2027 or 2028?

HOCO Pink 2028.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/12/20 10:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great scheduling by the HOCO officials to have the 28 Championship game right before the 27 Championship. It allowed the new FCA 28 team and Coach to catch up with their old team. By the our 27’s team count there are at least 7 kids who moved down. 5th grade must be tough in Baltimore

False. You must be a bitter Next Level parent. FCA Blue got better because of a large number of HOCO Pink kids joining the team, as well as the HOCO Pink coach taking over the team. Don’t be a hater.

HoCo Pink 2027 or 2028?

HOCO Pink 2028.

Too late for NL. If they thought FCA was using non-rostered kids, they had an hour to protest. HoCo has upheld these protests before with the most recent one coming in the last spring season played when MadLax played almost an entire roster of 2025's in the 2026 division, got caught and had to forfeit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/18/20 12:02 AM
FCA 2028 did not have any non-rostered players on that squad. Congrats to them on beating NL. I would not attribute the strength of the team to adding HoCo pink players. I heard those players are not that strong. I think the core group from the summer is very strong especially at attack and F/O.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/18/20 10:00 PM
Only one 29 USS(28) player went to Hawks and one 29 went to the 29s.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/18/20 10:58 PM
It’s all True Annapolis made up of shore boys with a few AA kids sprinkled in.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/19/20 01:35 PM
Can someone explain how Madlax Capital lost 15-1 to 91 MD (per Tourney Machine) yesterday at the Fall Maryland Tourney.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/19/20 03:31 PM
They didn't. Flip the score to get the correct results: Madlax 15 to 1 for 91 MD.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/19/20 04:10 PM
Interesting scores from yesterday. Crabs haven't made the jump the way that FCA has. For now the Elite teams remain FCA, Madlax and Next Level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/19/20 04:42 PM
My kid's team played and beat Crabs yesterday, but it wasn't a blowout and Crabs didn't look overmatched. I think they're up there with the other top teams in 2028.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/19/20 04:49 PM
Figured as much. Still surprised Madlax lost to Next Level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/19/20 05:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting scores from yesterday. Crabs haven't made the jump the way that FCA has. For now the Elite teams remain FCA, Madlax and Next Level.
Crabs will make the jump summer before 7th grade when they tell their 27s it’s time to become 28s. It’s the Crabs way.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/19/20 07:27 PM
Having seen the top 2028 teams now except the Hawks and True, I agree it looks like it is going to be a fight for between FCA, Madlax, and Next Level in the top division. FCA is very strong at face off, has two very good attackman and the rest of the team is solid. Next Level is the most balanced across positions and the deepest, especially in the midfield. Madlax defense is strong and the attack is very good at demolishing weaker defenses. But offense has trouble dodging and getting their own shot against stronger defenses.

Crabs and then Cavs probably next strongest. Not sure where Hawks and True will fall in this group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/19/20 08:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting scores from yesterday. Crabs haven't made the jump the way that FCA has. For now the Elite teams remain FCA, Madlax and Next Level.
Crabs will make the jump summer before 7th grade when they tell their 27s it’s time to become 28s. It’s the Crabs way.
Sounds crazy but is 100% true. My son plans 2026 (current 7th grade) and last summer the Crabs were awful, but this year are nearly competing with the Hawks for the top spot. Parents on the sidelines have confirmed that most of the roster are 2025s who moved down.

Can somebody explain how a travel club can influence families to actually repeat a year in school?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/20/20 12:31 AM
Very good assessment of the fall teams. Hawks got better with a few reclasses as well a solid goalie. With a few s/p and south river kids joining the group. Definitely an improved group. True got stronger only losing the one little attackmen. Deeper at all positions from a year ago. Both teams should help round out a great division.

It's going to be a fun spring at the 2028 level !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/20/20 01:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting scores from yesterday. Crabs haven't made the jump the way that FCA has. For now the Elite teams remain FCA, Madlax and Next Level.
Crabs will make the jump summer before 7th grade when they tell their 27s it’s time to become 28s. It’s the Crabs way.
Sounds crazy but is 100% true. My son plans 2026 (current 7th grade) and last summer the Crabs were awful, but this year are nearly competing with the Hawks for the top spot. Parents on the sidelines have confirmed that most of the roster are 2025s who moved down.

Can somebody explain how a travel club can influence families to actually repeat a year in school?

All travel clubs want holdbacks as players get closer to 7-9th grade. It isnt like it is a secret.

It isnt the travel club convincing them...It is the parent convincing himself that his son cant compete on age. Which is true for many. It isnt a great thing, but to compete in MD, it is almost always better to hold your child back, sad but true.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/21/20 03:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Figured as much. Still surprised Madlax lost to Next Level.

Not surprising. Almost every game these two squads have played resulted in a one goal difference. That is except for this past weekend, NL won by 4.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/21/20 06:11 PM
I thought surprising as MadLax killed Mesa (14-0), but then Mesa had a really competitive game against NL, despite the 9-4 loss. Maybe some of the NL kids had to leave early, as it was the last game of the day.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/21/20 06:58 PM
I am a current 2026 crab parent. We do NOT have 7 holdbacks lol. The team got better because it added new players (yes they were 6th graders last yr), we have new coaching; yes we have a couple holdbacks but so do other teams. What you are saying is simply not true.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/21/20 07:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought surprising as MadLax killed Mesa (14-0), but then Mesa had a really competitive game against NL, despite the 9-4 loss. Maybe some of the NL kids had to leave early, as it was the last game of the day.

There is no insight to youth lacrosse games. Teams can be on for a game and off for the next.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 10/26/20 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought surprising as MadLax killed Mesa (14-0), but then Mesa had a really competitive game against NL, despite the 9-4 loss. Maybe some of the NL kids had to leave early, as it was the last game of the day.

There is no insight to youth lacrosse games. Teams can be on for a game and off for the next.

Probably just different personnel for different match ups.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/09/20 05:49 PM
Great fall season in the 2028 level in this region. FCA, Next Level, Madlax, Crabs, Hawks, and True all fielding strong teams. Probably Cavs and either Bethesda or Kelly Post rounding out the top division. Should be a very fun spring with this group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/11/20 03:01 PM
Was NAL canceled for the 28's? It only shows 27's and above on Tourney Machine. Would have been a good chance to measure up vs the non MD and DC teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/11/20 07:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was NAL canceled for the 28's? It only shows 27's and above on Tourney Machine. Would have been a good chance to measure up vs the non MD and DC teams.

It's been a cluster. Still waiting to hear for other years and not move locations for the 3rd time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/16/20 03:51 PM
Out of curiosity what was the score of the Madlax and FCA scrimmage this weekend if anyone knows?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/16/20 07:56 PM
ML won.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/16/20 09:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am a current 2026 crab parent. We do NOT have 7 holdbacks lol. The team got better because it added new players (yes they were 6th graders last yr), we have new coaching; yes we have a couple holdbacks but so do other teams. What you are saying is simply not true.
You are correct, you don’t have 7, you have 5 . They should change their jersey numbers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/16/20 09:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am a current 2026 crab parent. We do NOT have 7 holdbacks lol. The team got better because it added new players (yes they were 6th graders last yr), we have new coaching; yes we have a couple holdbacks but so do other teams. What you are saying is simply not true.
7 if you include the two you had.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/16/20 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am a current 2026 crab parent. We do NOT have 7 holdbacks lol. The team got better because it added new players (yes they were 6th graders last yr), we have new coaching; yes we have a couple holdbacks but so do other teams. What you are saying is simply not true.
7 if you include the two you had.

Is a blue and yellow Dunce cap included in the equipment give out with Crabs!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/17/20 01:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Out of curiosity what was the score of the Madlax and FCA scrimmage this weekend if anyone knows?

FCA won the first half. MadLax fared better after FCA rotated everyone in.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/17/20 02:12 AM
Seriously? Madlax dominated possession for 80% of the game and the FCA goalie had no less than 20 saves. But believe what you want....work harder over the winter.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/17/20 11:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seriously? Madlax dominated possession for 80% of the game and the FCA goalie had no less than 20 saves. But believe what you want....work harder over the winter.

So who won?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/17/20 01:09 PM
FCA emptied the bench in the 2nd half?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/18/20 02:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seriously? Madlax dominated possession for 80% of the game and the FCA goalie had no less than 20 saves. But believe what you want....work harder over the winter.

So who won?

I wasn't there. Don't know who won. But from Madlax dad's comment, sounds like that team needs to focus on shooting skills. Or maybe the FCA goalie is just a prodigy who averages 40 saves per game?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/18/20 02:35 AM
Who do you think won? Madlax, something like 9-4, but clearly FCA wasn't paying attention as they were emptying their bench. Oh, and failed to mention, Madlax didn't have 2 or 3 of their top players. But that's irrelevant. See you in the spring....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/18/20 10:58 AM
How is the ML team doing with all the BLC players? Didn't 6 or 7 move clubs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/18/20 01:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is the ML team doing with all the BLC players? Didn't 6 or 7 move clubs?

NL got most of those players, I think a couple of BLC went to Madlax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/18/20 07:36 PM
The BLC team that went to Madlax were the 27's.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/18/20 08:05 PM
Did the Hawks play much over the fall? Did they get all the cutters kids?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/18/20 09:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the Hawks play much over the fall? Did they get all the cutters kids?

They played Fall Lax Showdown last weekend, went 2-1, and they played Fall Brawl Nov 8 and went 3-0. Not sure what other events they played, just know b/c my son's team was at the same events.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/18/20 10:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The BLC team that went to Madlax were the 27's.

FCA 2028 got a few of the Hoco Pink kids, they look pretty good. NL2028 got a chunk of BLC2028 kids, and they look pretty good. Hawks got some Cutters kids, and they look pretty good too. MadLax picked up a couple of BLC2028 kids as well, and they look good too. Sort of stinks that some of these teams aren't hanging on to their core players but I guess that's how it goes.

A bunch of BLC 2027 kids went to MadLax 2027, and then there was also turnover from Madlax to Next Level at the 2023 class as well. Always going to be some churn I suppose, and a couple of guys leave and then some of their teammates follow suit, and on and on.

I understand it but as a parent ideally you'd have your kid stay with the same group of guys from the start all the way through graduation, but that's not realistic.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/21/20 12:26 AM
No cutters kids on Hawks 2028
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/22/20 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No cutters kids on Hawks 2028
Where did they all go?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 11/28/20 10:00 PM
Most are now True Annapolis.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/10/20 02:19 PM
How are your clubs handling the winter? Practicing indoors or outside, any scrimmages? Is box happening anywhere indoors. Looks like Navy was the only outdoor box.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/10/20 05:42 PM
For the Dc area teams there are a couple outdoor box leagues going on in Northern Virginia. Madlax has a league where some Madlax players are playing. Cavs 2028 is playing in another league in McLean. NL and BLC are practicing outdoors this winter, but I don’t think either is playing in a box league.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/14/20 02:43 AM
That’s not what happened to the Hawks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/15/20 06:13 PM
Spring registration is now open for GHCLC. 2028 will have B, A, AA, and AAA divisions. Elite division does not start until 2027. AAA is going to be tough with Madlax, Next Level, Hawks, FCA Blue, and Crabs. Probably 2-3 more teams to round it out. AA should be very competitive as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/16/20 01:40 PM
True Annapolis likely will be AAA. After that, I think you have a group of teams like Cavs, BLC, and Kelly Post that could probably go either way. It just depends on whether they want to be in AAA and be one of the underdogs or play in AA and compete for the top of the division.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/16/20 02:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Annapolis likely will be AAA. After that, I think you have a group of teams like Cavs, BLC, and Kelly Post that could probably go either way. It just depends on whether they want to be in AAA and be one of the underdogs or play in AA and compete for the top of the division.

Totally agree. Will be interesting to see if the True team is as good as the Cutters.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/21/20 04:40 AM
What happened to the Hawks?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/21/20 02:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened to the Hawks?

They got better with several holdbacks and new additions.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 12/24/20 06:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened to the Hawks?

They got better with several holdbacks and new additions.

The 2028 sev park/mesa meltdown def helped!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/25/21 05:48 PM
Make your HOCO spring predictions for AAA. The known teams are: Madlax, Next Level, Hawks, FCA Blue, Crabs and True(?)

1.
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4.
5.
6.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/25/21 07:41 PM
1. FCA
2. Next Level
3. Hawks
4. Madlax
5. Crabs
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/25/21 08:17 PM
1. Madlax
2. FCA
2. Next Level
3. Hawks
4. True
5. Crabs
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/25/21 09:02 PM
Highest HoCo level will have 8 teams. So many changes and time has passed since these teams played last so this obviously means nothing until they get on the field. Next level and Madlax have been together for a while and are very good. I don’t think 91 has a team this level so Baltimore talent is on FCA or crabs. The last HoCo league for 28 had good teams from HoCo pink whose players went to FCA (upgrade) and Severna park players went to hawks (upgrade). Not sure FCA has taken the leap to #1 but it is possible. Crabs got older (hahaha), I mean better but should be middle of the pack. Hawks or USS/True could be #1 or slip way down the ranks, no one knows. To round out the 8, BLC, Cavalier and HLC all try to play the top teams but they will have a tough time against most of the teams above them.

1. Next Level
2. Madlax
3. FCA
4. Hawks
4. Crabs
5. True/USS
6. BLC
7. Cavalier
8. HLC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/25/21 09:27 PM
1. FCA
2. Next Level
3. Madlax
4. Hawks
5. True
6. Crabs
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/26/21 01:22 PM
I don’t think I’d be overly reliant on the fall games to determine the pecking order for this group since a lot of teams were integrating new players. But it’s mostly all we have to go by. The top three teams seem to be Next Level, Madlax, and FCA in some order. The FCA face off and attack are really good, but I think defense and midfield are more of a question mark. Madlax is very well coached and has a very good defense, but they don’t have a lot of really strong dodgers against so I think may struggle against defenses that guard their cutters well. Next Level is very deep and the best in the midfield of any of the teams, but draws a lot of penalties. Hawks and Crabs are both much improved. Hawks defense and goalie are very good, but they may have trouble scoring enough against the top teams. Crabs are the opposite. Offense is pretty solid, but defense might be less strong. Overall wouldn’t be too surprised to see any of these five end up at or near the top. True is the wild card since they didn’t play anyone in the fall other than Madlax I think. I’d slot them sixth. Cavs I think are underrated. Very big and a couple of players away from making a run. Will be interesting to see if they avoid defections to other clubs over time. But I’d put them next. Then BLC, Kelly Post, and HLC are the next best, but pretty far below the teams above them in terms of talent.

1. Next Level
2. Madlax
3. FCA
4. Crabs
5. Hawks
6. True
7. Cavs
8. BLC, Kelly Post, or HLC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/26/21 07:47 PM
How is everyone sleeping on Madlax? The 28's have won every hoco spring title so far and it wouldn't have been any different last year if the season played out. After minimal activity this fall they lost a close game to Next Level and soundly beat FCA in a scrimmage.

1. Madlax
2. Next Level
3. FCA
4. Hawks
5. Crabs
6. USS/True
7. Cavs
8. Kelly Post
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/27/21 02:15 AM
Madlax is the top team and will remain so until someone actually beats them when it counts. Madlax has the best attack and close defense units in the division. FCA has best middies & FOGO. Hawks has best goalies. Next Level is solid. Crabs & True can hang with top teams and could easily make a run in playoffs. Tourneymachine results show a big drop off after that.

TIER 1: Madlax
TIER 2: FCA-Hawks-NL
TIER 3: Crabs-True
TIER 4: BLC-Cavs-HLC-KP
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/27/21 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax is the top team and will remain so until someone actually beats them when it counts. Madlax has the best attack and close defense units in the division. FCA has best middies & FOGO. Hawks has best goalies. Next Level is solid. Crabs & True can hang with top teams and could easily make a run in playoffs. Tourneymachine results show a big drop off after that.

TIER 1: Madlax
TIER 2: FCA-Hawks-NL
TIER 3: Crabs-True
TIER 4: BLC-Cavs-HLC-KP

Madlax has lost to NL the only times they’ve played since third grade. The fall game and a scrimmage lasts summer. NL beat all of the above teams this fall at least once except True who they didn’t play. I mean fall ball isn’t everything, but to argue Madlax is in a tier by themselves because of some third grade results is some real Madlax thinking.

There isn’t a ton of separation here between the top five teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/27/21 02:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax is the top team and will remain so until someone actually beats them when it counts. Madlax has the best attack and close defense units in the division. FCA has best middies & FOGO. Hawks has best goalies. Next Level is solid. Crabs & True can hang with top teams and could easily make a run in playoffs. Tourneymachine results show a big drop off after that.

TIER 1: Madlax
TIER 2: FCA-Hawks-NL
TIER 3: Crabs-True
TIER 4: BLC-Cavs-HLC-KP

NL beat Madlax 5-1 10/18/21 at the Maryland Lacrosse Tournament in Columbia, was a shutout until ML scored with a minute left. Fairly sure that "counted". NL lost the weekend prior to FCA. So if you're doing top 3 in 2028, IMO you can put those three teams in any order until we have a bigger sample size. Should be a good season. Teams from the lower tiers you've got here have also looked pretty good from what I saw. Very competitive age group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/27/21 02:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax is the top team and will remain so until someone actually beats them when it counts. Madlax has the best attack and close defense units in the division. FCA has best middies & FOGO. Hawks has best goalies. Next Level is solid. Crabs & True can hang with top teams and could easily make a run in playoffs. Tourneymachine results show a big drop off after that.

TIER 1: Madlax
TIER 2: FCA-Hawks-NL
TIER 3: Crabs-True
TIER 4: BLC-Cavs-HLC-KP

Enjoy it while you can. The team with the most holdback's will start dominating in next few years. My prediction, Madlax, Crabs, Hawks and FCA as years go by. Rest get off them while you can.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/27/21 05:56 PM
High turnover at Hoco pink, Mesa and BLC. The standings will likely look a lot different then they have in years past.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/27/21 06:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax is the top team and will remain so until someone actually beats them when it counts. Madlax has the best attack and close defense units in the division. FCA has best middies & FOGO. Hawks has best goalies. Next Level is solid. Crabs & True can hang with top teams and could easily make a run in playoffs. Tourneymachine results show a big drop off after that.

TIER 1: Madlax
TIER 2: FCA-Hawks-NL
TIER 3: Crabs-True
TIER 4: BLC-Cavs-HLC-KP

Enjoy it while you can. The team with the most holdback's will start dominating in next few years. My prediction, Madlax, Crabs, Hawks and FCA as years go by. Rest get off them while you can.
5th grade lacrosse. Get an effing grip.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/27/21 07:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
High turnover at Hoco pink, Mesa and BLC. The standings will likely look a lot different then they have in years past.

Yeah BLC lost some strong players to Madlax and Next Level, so who knows if they'll be in this division or one lower in spring as they try to rebuild. Hoco Pink was pretty strong in prior years but some of their guys went to FCA and (I think, not 100% sure) some to Hawks. No idea about Mesa but that's just me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/27/21 10:32 PM
BLC as a whole really bungled 2020. Their travel teams will not be very competitive for several years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/28/21 02:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
High turnover at Hoco pink, Mesa and BLC. The standings will likely look a lot different then they have in years past.

Yeah BLC lost some strong players to Madlax and Next Level, so who knows if they'll be in this division or one lower in spring as they try to rebuild. Hoco Pink was pretty strong in prior years but some of their guys went to FCA and (I think, not 100% sure) some to Hawks. No idea about Mesa but that's just me.

There is no Mesa 2028.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 01/28/21 01:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax is the top team and will remain so until someone actually beats them when it counts. Madlax has the best attack and close defense units in the division. FCA has best middies & FOGO. Hawks has best goalies. Next Level is solid. Crabs & True can hang with top teams and could easily make a run in playoffs. Tourneymachine results show a big drop off after that.

TIER 1: Madlax
TIER 2: FCA-Hawks-NL
TIER 3: Crabs-True
TIER 4: BLC-Cavs-HLC-KP

The argument of they were good in 3rd grade so they will be good again is weak. Multiple teams in the 28 division got a lot better over the summer/fall. The only thing that will be consistent for the next couple of years is change. Kids are going to change clubs, kids are going to stay back. Madlax will always be good, maybe even great, but even those families get sick of the yelling and shenanigans. A lot of those kids will move on as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/01/21 09:02 PM
1. Madlax
2. FCA
3. Hawks
4. Next Level
5. Crabs
6. True
7. Cavs
8. KP
9. BLC
10. HLC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/08/21 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BLC as a whole really bungled 2020. Their travel teams will not be very competitive for several years.

BLC is a great experience for a young player and a good intro into club lacrosse. Its unfair to say they bungled 2020. The local schools they lease fields from were shut down. In scrambling to find replacement fields some were better than others. Not an ideal situation.

Their clubs will be competitive but wont be challenging any of the top teams. They don't have professional coaches and practice 1/2 as much. Its always going to be a short term solution for kids without HS teams. There will always be outliers. The BLC 25's were extremely strong and the 29's (if they can stay together) look promising.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/09/21 06:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BLC as a whole really bungled 2020. Their travel teams will not be very competitive for several years.

BLC is a great experience for a young player and a good intro into club lacrosse. Its unfair to say they bungled 2020. The local schools they lease fields from were shut down. In scrambling to find replacement fields some were better than others. Not an ideal situation.

Their clubs will be competitive but wont be challenging any of the top teams. They don't have professional coaches and practice 1/2 as much. Its always going to be a short term solution for kids without HS teams. There will always be outliers. The BLC 25's were extremely strong and the 29's (if they can stay together) look promising.

I was being kind by saying "bungled" and if that term really offends you then you are waaay too sensitive. Are you telling me they couldn't find any field to gather on for informal or formal gatherings? No, the true answer is the board of BLC was split and got scared of liability issues and simply chose to abandon the program. They left it up to the individual teams to do it on their own. That's all fine except many families left for Madlax and Next Level up and down the age groups and why be part of an organization which doesn't support the team. It's kind of like paying to be a franchise without getting any administrative or marketing support.

Their participation numbers are way down and it will take years to recover. Let's hope DCE can keep it together.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/09/21 07:35 PM
2025 DCE needs to cut some of the “loyalty players” from BLC that have no business on the team before they can get in the elite class.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/11/21 05:16 PM
Has anyone heard of any decent teams from the new york area in this age group?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/12/21 04:06 AM
Nope. All stink
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/12/21 10:32 AM
Here’s the story with the 28’s in NY, and no they all don’t stink. 2028 is an extremely talented age group BUT all the best players are spread out between 6 or so teams. At some point you would imagine one team would draw them all, but most of the best travel kids play with their town teams friends on these 6 or so teams. Most teams didn’t make any moves this year due to coronavirus. so you would imagine whoever gets the best results this spring will get the biggest draw of talent. There is also 3-4 other teams that think that they are at the top.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/12/21 11:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax is the top team and will remain so until someone actually beats them when it counts. Madlax has the best attack and close defense units in the division. FCA has best middies & FOGO. Hawks has best goalies. Next Level is solid. Crabs & True can hang with top teams and could easily make a run in playoffs. Tourneymachine results show a big drop off after that.

TIER 1: Madlax
TIER 2: FCA-Hawks-NL
TIER 3: Crabs-True
TIER 4: BLC-Cavs-HLC-KP

Enjoy it while you can. The team with the most holdback's will start dominating in next few years. My prediction, Madlax, Crabs, Hawks and FCA as years go by. Rest get off them while you can.
5th grade lacrosse. Get an effing grip.

This is where it starts, Your son will not be D1 material with that attitude
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/12/21 01:31 PM
Sweetlax (in NY) is pretty good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/12/21 02:20 PM
For Long Island the best kids are spread out amongst 91, Express, Igloo, Legacy, Mooselax, Rebels, Rush and Turtles, unless if there are some big moves or consolidations it is hard to imagine any of them will enter the highest tier. 2Way, Express North and Eclipse are also strong teams from CT.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/16/21 03:39 PM
Looks like there is 3 spring kick off tourneys before Hoco. What is your club signed up for?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/16/21 04:02 PM
There is madlax spring madness and the march kickoff invitational. Whats the third?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 02/16/21 05:18 PM
looks like new york teams are coming to maryland and delaware in june and umass in july
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/07/21 03:13 AM
Li Express, NJ Express, Hawks, BBL and True all played today in DE
Only games I know are True Annapolis beat BBL
Apparently the LI Express team didn’t practice much before the play day due to COVID.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/07/21 02:53 PM
Is there a link? I couldn't find the relevant link on Tourney machine.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/07/21 04:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax is the top team and will remain so until someone actually beats them when it counts. Madlax has the best attack and close defense units in the division. FCA has best middies & FOGO. Hawks has best goalies. Next Level is solid. Crabs & True can hang with top teams and could easily make a run in playoffs. Tourneymachine results show a big drop off after that.

TIER 1: Madlax
TIER 2: FCA-Hawks-NL
TIER 3: Crabs-True
TIER 4: BLC-Cavs-HLC-KP

Enjoy it while you can. The team with the most holdback's will start dominating in next few years. My prediction, Madlax, Crabs, Hawks and FCA as years go by. Rest get off them while you can.
5th grade lacrosse. Get an effing grip.

This is where it starts, Your son will not be D1 material with that attitude

Exactly ! 5th grade is where it all starts. Get on best team with best coaches now or watch as the D1 ship sails on by you.
Frankly, 5th grade may be a year late for most. Each year after 3-4th grade your chance of a D1 trip is less and less.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/08/21 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax is the top team and will remain so until someone actually beats them when it counts. Madlax has the best attack and close defense units in the division. FCA has best middies & FOGO. Hawks has best goalies. Next Level is solid. Crabs & True can hang with top teams and could easily make a run in playoffs. Tourneymachine results show a big drop off after that.

TIER 1: Madlax
TIER 2: FCA-Hawks-NL
TIER 3: Crabs-True
TIER 4: BLC-Cavs-HLC-KP

Enjoy it while you can. The team with the most holdback's will start dominating in next few years. My prediction, Madlax, Crabs, Hawks and FCA as years go by. Rest get off them while you can.
5th grade lacrosse. Get an effing grip.

This is where it starts, Your son will not be D1 material with that attitude
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/09/21 10:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Li Express, NJ Express, Hawks, BBL and True all played today in DE
Only games I know are True Annapolis beat BBL
Apparently the LI Express team didn’t practice much before the play day due to COVID.

Hawks Dad,

How good or bad were the out of town teams: LI and NJ Express, BBL?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/09/21 10:33 PM
Was there for my older son and heard from the 28 parents it was not a good showing for the Ny/Nj teams at the 28 level. Saw few of the hawks games and it was not very close. The ny parents were clear that these teams have not practiced much and many did not make the trip. it showed. They have some good talented and athletic kids but did not do the fundamentals very well, not their fault. BBL was the best of the bunch, very physical. LI express had some very good players but turned the ball over and could not get anything started. NJ express got frustrated early and could get possessions.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/09/21 11:16 PM
Great attitudes dads! Just make it fun or they will all quit and become skateboarders. Seriously though, the good coaches know what an actual athlete looks like and the holdback game doesn’t seem to count for much when they get to high school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/10/21 04:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s the story with the 28’s in NY, and no they all don’t stink. 2028 is an extremely talented age group BUT all the best players are spread out between 6 or so teams. At some point you would imagine one team would draw them all, but most of the best travel kids play with their town teams friends on these 6 or so teams. Most teams didn’t make any moves this year due to coronavirus. so you would imagine whoever gets the best results this spring will get the biggest draw of talent. There is also 3-4 other teams that think that they are at the top.

Spot on analysis. Would love to see a team of the top kids from all of those teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/10/21 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s the story with the 28’s in NY, and no they all don’t stink. 2028 is an extremely talented age group BUT all the best players are spread out between 6 or so teams. At some point you would imagine one team would draw them all, but most of the best travel kids play with their town teams friends on these 6 or so teams. Most teams didn’t make any moves this year due to coronavirus. so you would imagine whoever gets the best results this spring will get the biggest draw of talent. There is also 3-4 other teams that think that they are at the top.

Spot on analysis. Would love to see a team of the top kids from all of those teams.

Same thing happened/is happening in Maryland, I think Cutters (which was a solid team) got absorbed into Hawks, FCA got a bunch of Hoco Pink guys (also a good team), and Next Level and MadLax got some Bethesda players. Nature of the beast I guess.

I can't believe all these NY families are shuttling back and forth to DE/MD for like four weeks in a row, sounds like a giant PITA. Good luck to all this weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/12/21 12:18 AM
There are no Cutters players on Hawks 2028.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/12/21 04:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are no Cutters players on Hawks 2028.
There's holdbacks from Cutters there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/12/21 12:47 PM
Looks like some interesting games this weekend.

Next level vs. FCA
Madlax v. Hawks

And a few typically good NY/NJ teams - LI Express, Mad Dog, and Leading Edge - taking on various local teams. Should be interesting.

Anyone know the final allocation on AAA for 2028? Seems like the following is the most likely based on past results and club division preferences, but I guess we’ll know for sure next week.

Madlax
Next Level
FCA
Hawks
Crabs
True Annapolis
Cavs
BLC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/12/21 03:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like some interesting games this weekend.

Next level vs. FCA
Madlax v. Hawks

And a few typically good NY/NJ teams - LI Express, Mad Dog, and Leading Edge - taking on various local teams. Should be interesting.

Anyone know the final allocation on AAA for 2028? Seems like the following is the most likely based on past results and club division preferences, but I guess we’ll know for sure next week.

Madlax
Next Level
FCA
Hawks
Crabs
True Annapolis
Cavs
BLC

2028 will have an Elite division. All of those teams will be in it. There will also be AAA, AA, A divisions. A is the new B.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/12/21 05:54 PM
Are there any other teams on elite, or just those 8?
What about AAA?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/12/21 09:24 PM
That will probably be the 8 for elite and it’s a balanced group with a lot of talent. HoCo pink and green hornets were in elite and their players have dispersed. Outside shot for true kp at elite but only if a team like BLC wants to go to AAA. For AAA, cannons, sidewinders, HLC, FLC, Swarm (perry hall), Forrest hill, one of the true teams and maybe Madlax dmv or hawks black. After that it is anybody’s guess since most of the teams will be newly formed since they missed a year due to covid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/13/21 01:32 AM
Nope, no cutters or cutter holdbacks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/13/21 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That will probably be the 8 for elite and it’s a balanced group with a lot of talent. HoCo pink and green hornets were in elite and their players have dispersed. Outside shot for true kp at elite but only if a team like BLC wants to go to AAA. For AAA, cannons, sidewinders, HLC, FLC, Swarm (perry hall), Forrest hill, one of the true teams and maybe Madlax dmv or hawks black. After that it is anybody’s guess since most of the teams will be newly formed since they missed a year due to covid.

I have seen the leaked alignment. Here are the AAA teams. There could be a little more movement.

Hoco Pink
FCA White
Cannons
Eastside
HLC
Blue Claws
Team 91
Forest Hill Select
Sidewinders
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/13/21 10:55 PM
Would be Interesting if none of the True teams play AAA.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/13/21 11:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Would be Interesting if none of the True teams play AAA.

True Annapolis Green will be in Elite. The rest of the True teams (Baltimore and Annapolis B) are in AA or A I think. None in AAA. There is no B division anymore.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/14/21 02:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Would be Interesting if none of the True teams play AAA.

True Annapolis Green will be in Elite. The rest of the True teams (Baltimore and Annapolis B) are in AA or A I think. None in AAA. There is no B division anymore.


Maybe true Kelly post? They’d have to be somewhere right?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/14/21 03:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Would be Interesting if none of the True teams play AAA.

True Annapolis Green will be in Elite. The rest of the True teams (Baltimore and Annapolis B) are in AA or A I think. None in AAA. There is no B division anymore.


Maybe true Kelly post? They’d have to be somewhere right?

Forgot about them. I believe True KP is slotted for Elite.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/14/21 09:24 PM
Saw the Thaw this weekend but only 3 teams, not sure if there are more. Hawks and Madlax were pretty close, NXT struggled. Talked to one of the NXT parents, they said they had only practiced a few times and only 1x per week.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/14/21 11:12 PM
Based on this weekend, I think it is clear that the top five teams are all pretty close - Next Level, FCA, Madlax, Hawks, and Crabs. And then there is a wide gulf between those five and everyone else.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 12:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Based on this weekend, I think it is clear that the top five teams are all pretty close - Next Level, FCA, Madlax, Hawks, and Crabs. And then there is a wide gulf between those five and everyone else.

I might add True Annapolis Green to the mix. After those 6 teams, not a huge difference between other Elite teams and AAA teams. Most can beat each other on any given day.

Going to be an awesome spring season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 02:51 PM
Guess the Long Island teams can hang after all. Looks like Express was competitive all weekend and they are not the best of the bunch on the island
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/15/21 03:00 PM
The records in play among the top 6 teams I could find on tourney machine in the fall and spring of this year:

Next Level - 6-1. Wins - FCA (by 5 and 1), Crabs (6 and 1), Madlax (by 4), Hawks (by 2). Loss FCA by 2.

Hawks 1-1. Win over Madlax by 2. Loss to NL by 2.

FCA 1-2. Two losses to NL, one win over NL.

Madlax 1-2. Win over True by 8. Losses to NL by 4 and Hawks by 2.

Crabs. 0-2. Two losses to NL.

True. 0-1. Loss to Madlax by 8.

Might be other games I didn’t see and didn’t look at last summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 01:03 AM
Was the LI Express team the same team that played in the DE play day last weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 02:05 AM
Madlax beat FCA in a scrimmage in Fall 9-4
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 03:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was the LI Express team the same team that played in the DE play day last weekend?
Same team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 03:27 PM
If the rumored elite division containing the following 10 teams is correct, there are going to be a lot of non-competitive games in elite.

Hawks
Next Level
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
True Annapolis
True Kelly Post
BLC
HLC
Cavs

Kelly Post, BLC, HLC, and Cavs are going to post a ton of 10-15 goal losses against the top five teams like happened this weekend. Those teams would all be better off playing in AAA as they are not remotely competitive with the top teams. Also this will create some crazy discrepancies in schedules. A team could theoretically make the playoffs by beating BLC, HLC, Cavs, and KP.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 04:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A team could theoretically make the playoffs by beating BLC, HLC, Cavs, and KP.

Oh the humanity!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 07:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A team could theoretically make the playoffs by beating BLC, HLC, Cavs, and KP.

Oh the humanity!!!!

Isn’t Kelly Post Mesa now?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 07:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A team could theoretically make the playoffs by beating BLC, HLC, Cavs, and KP.

Oh the humanity!!!!

Isn’t Kelly Post Mesa now?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A team could theoretically make the playoffs by beating BLC, HLC, Cavs, and KP.

Oh the humanity!!!!

Isn’t Kelly Post Mesa now?

No KP is True, Severna Park is Mesa
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 09:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the rumored elite division containing the following 10 teams is correct, there are going to be a lot of non-competitive games in elite.

Hawks
Next Level
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
True Annapolis
True Kelly Post
BLC
HLC
Cavs

Kelly Post, BLC, HLC, and Cavs are going to post a ton of 10-15 goal losses against the top five teams like happened this weekend. Those teams would all be better off playing in AAA as they are not remotely competitive with the top teams. Also this will create some crazy discrepancies in schedules. A team could theoretically make the playoffs by beating BLC, HLC, Cavs, and KP.

Kelly Post requested AAA. Team 91 refused Elite and got their way....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/16/21 09:37 PM
So are there now 10 AAA teams and 8 Elite?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/17/21 01:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So are there now 10 AAA teams and 8 Elite?

There are 10 Elite, True KP, HLC, Cavalier and BLC are in. True Annapolis is also in.
Hawks and Next Level play in game one, should be interesting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/17/21 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Guess the Long Island teams can hang after all. Looks like Express was competitive all weekend and they are not the best of the bunch on the island

Didn’t the Hawks beat LI Express by like 8 (sorry forget the exact number) a week ago? It was not competitive. Not practicing will do that though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/17/21 03:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Guess the Long Island teams can hang after all. Looks like Express was competitive all weekend and they are not the best of the bunch on the island

Didn’t the Hawks beat LI Express by like 8 (sorry forget the exact number) a week ago? It was not competitive. Not practicing will do that though.

Disagree. The next weekend LIE beat Next Level by one, split two games with Mad Dog National who was a good team, and lost narrowly by 1 to Crabs who are also much improved. LIE was very inconsistent so I could see how they could get run over in a given game like with Hawks. But they definitely aren’t bad or non-competitive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/17/21 05:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Guess the Long Island teams can hang after all. Looks like Express was competitive all weekend and they are not the best of the bunch on the island

Didn’t the Hawks beat LI Express by like 8 (sorry forget the exact number) a week ago? It was not competitive. Not practicing will do that though.

Disagree. The next weekend LIE beat Next Level by one, split two games with Mad Dog National who was a good team, and lost narrowly by 1 to Crabs who are also much improved. LIE was very inconsistent so I could see how they could get run over in a given game like with Hawks. But they definitely aren’t bad or non-competitive.

Totally fair take. Next Level could come out me smoke the Hawks this weekend, you never know.

At the end of they day they are 10/11 yo kids. Just get better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/17/21 06:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Guess the Long Island teams can hang after all. Looks like Express was competitive all weekend and they are not the best of the bunch on the island

Didn’t the Hawks beat LI Express by like 8 (sorry forget the exact number) a week ago? It was not competitive. Not practicing will do that though.

Disagree. The next weekend LIE beat Next Level by one, split two games with Mad Dog National who was a good team, and lost narrowly by 1 to Crabs who are also much improved. LIE was very inconsistent so I could see how they could get run over in a given game like with Hawks. But they definitely aren’t bad or non-competitive.

Totally fair take. Next Level could come out me smoke the Hawks this weekend, you never know.

At the end of they day they are 10/11 yo kids. Just get better.

totally agree, no teams are 100% consistent at this age group and it's preseason after a cancelled 2020 spring season and an abbreviated fall season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/21/21 07:18 PM
2028 Hawks are legit. They just beat up on my sons Team in HOCO. We couldn’t stop their attack and our poles are GOOD. They have a #7, that is ridiculous, def had 6 or 7 points this morning.

Congrats to everyone who won today. It was good to be back regardless of the outcome
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/21/21 10:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2028 Hawks are legit. They just beat up on my sons Team in HOCO. We couldn’t stop their attack and our poles are GOOD. They have a #7, that is ridiculous, def had 6 or 7 points this morning.

Congrats to everyone who won today. It was good to be back regardless of the outcome

Seems like the team to beat this spring. MadLax last weekend and a very good Next Level this weekend. Pretty impressive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 12:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2028 Hawks are legit. They just beat up on my sons Team in HOCO. We couldn’t stop their attack and our poles are GOOD. They have a #7, that is ridiculous, def had 6 or 7 points this morning.

Congrats to everyone who won today. It was good to be back regardless of the outcome

Thanks Hawks #7 Dad, whoops sorry NL dad
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 01:26 AM
Lotsa lax left to play! We’ll see
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 01:29 AM
Why does every compliment end up being some sort of argument. It was a great game, we were down early but scored 5 in a row on them, 2 by my son, but they came back in the 4th. I don’t know who #7 actually is. They have a HUGE crease attackman that we couldn’t slow down also.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 02:11 AM
It was a good performance by the Hawks, but NL was missing several players for spring break vacation - normal goalie, top FOGO, and one of the best at attack. Will be interesting to see them play again in the playoffs if that happens. I’d say FCA is the favorite right now when they play their two attack the whole game. But Hawks, FCA, Madlax, NL, and Crabs all have a chance.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 03:03 AM
Nahhh FCA isn’t the fav

Got To be either Madlax or Hawks. Hawks Beat Madlax recently I read above. Cream always rises to the top!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 03:09 AM
Congratulations on the winners today. As usual, the winners today are the holdbacks. Most teams that won had the most holdbacks. Well Done !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 05:05 AM
Lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 01:41 PM
Can someone define what a holdback is? If a kid has a summer birthday and his parents understandably have him do an extra year of preschool does that make him a holdback?

To be sure, 6 months can make a difference at this age, but if you failed to understand or learn about childhood development and pushed your kid into kindergarten so he could be the youngest in the class for some reason then you made a bad call and that’s on you.

If you hold your kid back in middle school and have him play with his new grade then that’s weak. That kid is now a holdback and should be called out.

I just want to clear this up so everyone can either relax and appreciate their son’s work ethic and commitment or stew in their own bad parenting decisions. One choice is for winners...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone define what a holdback is? If a kid has a summer birthday and his parents understandably have him do an extra year of preschool does that make him a holdback?

To be sure, 6 months can make a difference at this age, but if you failed to understand or learn about childhood development and pushed your kid into kindergarten so he could be the youngest in the class for some reason then you made a bad call and that’s on you.

If you hold your kid back in middle school and have him play with his new grade then that’s weak. That kid is now a holdback and should be called out.

I just want to clear this up so everyone can either relax and appreciate their son’s work ethic and commitment or stew in their own bad parenting decisions. One choice is for winners...

Thanks for the clarification Hawks holdback, I mean summer birthday, mom and dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone define what a holdback is? If a kid has a summer birthday and his parents understandably have him do an extra year of preschool does that make him a holdback?

To be sure, 6 months can make a difference at this age, but if you failed to understand or learn about childhood development and pushed your kid into kindergarten so he could be the youngest in the class for some reason then you made a bad call and that’s on you.

If you hold your kid back in middle school and have him play with his new grade then that’s weak. That kid is now a holdback and should be called out.

I just want to clear this up so everyone can either relax and appreciate their son’s work ethic and commitment or stew in their own bad parenting decisions. One choice is for winners...

Thanks for the clarification Hawks holdback, I mean summer birthday, mom and dad.

Looks like we got our first answer!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 03:11 PM
Built in excuse machine:
Option A - Hold backs. This can apply to any game at any grade level. This can make a lot of losing teams feel better about themselves.
Option B - Spring Break. If you lose any game in the spring this is an option. You can use summer vacation for any summer tourney game you lose.
Option C - Half the team plays football in the fall. This is a good seasonal excuse. Use basketball is you lose in the winter.
Option D - Dad Coaches. This one speaks for itself.
Option E - True acquired my kids club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 05:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Built in excuse machine:
Option A - Hold backs. This can apply to any game at any grade level. This can make a lot of losing teams feel better about themselves.
Option B - Spring Break. If you lose any game in the spring this is an option. You can use summer vacation for any summer tourney game you lose.
Option C - Half the team plays football in the fall. This is a good seasonal excuse. Use basketball is you lose in the winter.
Option D - Dad Coaches. This one speaks for itself.
Option E - True acquired my kids club.

I went back through and scrolled through every post to be sure and can confirm this is the best post ever written here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 07:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Built in excuse machine:
Option A - Hold backs. This can apply to any game at any grade level. This can make a lot of losing teams feel better about themselves.
Option B - Spring Break. If you lose any game in the spring this is an option. You can use summer vacation for any summer tourney game you lose.
Option C - Half the team plays football in the fall. This is a good seasonal excuse. Use basketball is you lose in the winter.
Option D - Dad Coaches. This one speaks for itself.
Option E - True acquired my kids club.

I went back through and scrolled through every post to be sure and can confirm this is the best post ever written here.

100 percent agree. This wins the internet today. The rest of us can all go home and log back on to try again tomorrow.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 08:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2028 Hawks are legit. They just beat up on my sons Team in HOCO. We couldn’t stop their attack and our poles are GOOD. They have a #7, that is ridiculous, def had 6 or 7 points this morning.

Congrats to everyone who won today. It was good to be back regardless of the outcome

Thanks Hawks #7 Dad, whoops sorry NL dad

Ha. This is 100% spot on. Guaranteed written by dad of #7. No one who has ever seen Hawks play would dispute that guy would definitely write something like this. Hawks dads are something else, especially this guy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 11:58 PM
I wrote the post about #7, and I’m not a Hawks dad, lol. I can’t speak for said dad. You’re probably a Madlax dad. What a crybaby response.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/22/21 11:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2028 Hawks are legit. They just beat up on my sons Team in HOCO. We couldn’t stop their attack and our poles are GOOD. They have a #7, that is ridiculous, def had 6 or 7 points this morning.

Congrats to everyone who won today. It was good to be back regardless of the outcome

Thanks Hawks #7 Dad, whoops sorry NL dad

Ha. This is 100% spot on. Guaranteed written by dad of #7. No one who has ever seen Hawks play would dispute that guy would definitely write something like this. Hawks dads are something else, especially this guy.

Helps to be a year older!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 12:18 AM
Hawks dads don’t even remotely compare to some FCA dads (Jesus who?), the vest wearing Madlax Dads, the flat B Crabs dads, and the worst of them all—- the dads of lower tier teams who don’t know Jack about lacrosse. Signed- BLC dad
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 12:28 AM
Who is #7 on the Hawks? I think you gotta worry about the giant kid in the crease! #23 or #25. holdback city. We couldn’t move him. Signed - NL dad
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 01:11 AM
I feel like this has the beginnings of the 2026 board where all they talk about is the Hawks. 275 pages later we will still be talking about the same thing. There are lots of good topics to cover.

There was a lot of good lacrosse this weekend. NL, Hawks, Madlax and True all seemed like good teams. The Crabs may be as well but BLC didn't look too competitive so it's hard to tell. I don't know why HLC didn't play, but that would have been interesting as well.

The holdback talk is lame. It happens, deal with it or play rec. I've been asked several times if my kid was a hold back, I'm flattered that people would think so, but it's also sad that people would care. FWIW - he's a January 2010 birthday.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 01:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks dads don’t even remotely compare to some FCA dads (Jesus who?), the vest wearing Madlax Dads, the flat B Crabs dads, and the worst of them all—- the dads of lower tier teams who don’t know Jack about lacrosse. Signed- BLC dad

I second that the FCA dads, on in particular, take the cake.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 01:28 AM
The worst FCA dad is the 2027 coach who’s kid is the goalie. BIG HUGE GIANT guy. I mean, I wouldn’t say it to his face or anything haha
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 01:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I feel like this has the beginnings of the 2026 board where all they talk about is the Hawks. 275 pages later we will still be talking about the same thing. There are lots of good topics to cover.

There was a lot of good lacrosse this weekend. NL, Hawks, Madlax and True all seemed like good teams. The Crabs may be as well but BLC didn't look too competitive so it's hard to tell. I don't know why HLC didn't play, but that would have been interesting as well.

The holdback talk is lame. It happens, deal with it or play rec. I've been asked several times if my kid was a hold back, I'm flattered that people would think so, but it's also sad that people would care. FWIW - he's a January 2010 birthday.

I'm with this guy. My son was born 4 months earlier than this guy's kid, which I suppose makes him a "holdback," but a kid born on September (or a month later) 1 is "legit." All the whining and crying is embarrassing. Let your sons play the game and be better dads.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 01:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone define what a holdback is? If a kid has a summer birthday and his parents understandably have him do an extra year of preschool does that make him a holdback?

To be sure, 6 months can make a difference at this age, but if you failed to understand or learn about childhood development and pushed your kid into kindergarten so he could be the youngest in the class for some reason then you made a bad call and that’s on you.

If you hold your kid back in middle school and have him play with his new grade then that’s weak. That kid is now a holdback and should be called out.

I just want to clear this up so everyone can either relax and appreciate their son’s work ethic and commitment or stew in their own bad parenting decisions. One choice is for winners...

What parents do is their business summer holdback dad, It is getting an advantage in YOUTH sports that other children born on the same day dont get. I always say, Everyone should be allowed to play down a year if they want, irregardless of grade. Then it would be a fair youth system, but then, you holdbacks wouldnt get an advantage in youth
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 03:40 AM
There are definitely some creepy Hawks parents on here talking to each other and pretending to be from other teams.

On a more relevant note, what's up with Cavs 2028 quitting the division? How does that impact the schedule for everyone else?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 10:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are definitely some creepy Hawks parents on here talking to each other and pretending to be from other teams.

On a more relevant note, what's up with Cavs 2028 quitting the division? How does that impact the schedule for everyone else?

Definitely. Trolls who have info and hater parents from inside the organization who lost playing time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 10:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are definitely some creepy Hawks parents on here talking to each other and pretending to be from other teams.

On a more relevant note, what's up with Cavs 2028 quitting the division? How does that impact the schedule for everyone else?

So are they AAA now or not in hock at all?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 11:05 AM
Did Cavs move to a lower bracket??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 11:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone define what a holdback is? If a kid has a summer birthday and his parents understandably have him do an extra year of preschool does that make him a holdback?

To be sure, 6 months can make a difference at this age, but if you failed to understand or learn about childhood development and pushed your kid into kindergarten so he could be the youngest in the class for some reason then you made a bad call and that’s on you.

If you hold your kid back in middle school and have him play with his new grade then that’s weak. That kid is now a holdback and should be called out.

I just want to clear this up so everyone can either relax and appreciate their son’s work ethic and commitment or stew in their own bad parenting decisions. One choice is for winners...

What parents do is their business summer holdback dad, It is getting an advantage in YOUTH sports that other children born on the same day dont get. I always say, Everyone should be allowed to play down a year if they want, irregardless of grade. Then it would be a fair youth system, but then, you holdbacks wouldnt get an advantage in youth

Anyone who thought it was a good idea to put their kid in kindergarten so he could turn 18 the summer after his senior year is a Camaro driving stunad, but if it’s that upsetting to you then you should hold your kid back. I remember playing against a kid with a moustache when I was 12. He dominated and it felt unfair. By 8th grade he was average and by high school nobody heard from him again. Your kid is in 5th grade. Relax. Hold him back or stop complaining.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 01:29 PM
If Cavs don’t play are they going to redo the schedules? Or will their opponents just get a forfeit win? The latter seems a little unfair to everyone since the teams that were playing them lose a game and the teams that don’t (looks like NL and True Annapolis) don’t get a free win for the purposes of the playoff standings.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 01:36 PM
Who keeps using the foolish word? Haha. That’s the real creep in here.

Now- what happened to the 2028 Cavs??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 03:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If Cavs don’t play are they going to redo the schedules? Or will their opponents just get a forfeit win? The latter seems a little unfair to everyone since the teams that were playing them lose a game and the teams that don’t (looks like NL and True Annapolis) don’t get a free win for the purposes of the playoff standings.

Next Level doesn't play Cav's

If the schedule stands and now we get bye weeks, these teams lose the potential W vs Cavs:
True KP
Crabs
Hawks
Madlax
BLC
FCA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 03:42 PM
I don’t really care about the playoff and standings as much as just trying to get more games in. It stinks to lose a game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 03:46 PM
So—- what happened to the Cavs????
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 03:50 PM
Cavs just had all of their HOCO games switched to TBD. Anyone know what happened? I came here knowing someone must know
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs just had all of their HOCO games switched to TBD. Anyone know what happened? I came here knowing someone must know

Did not want to play elite so pulled out
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 03:58 PM
Cannons, FCA White or Blue Claws will be moving up from AAA to take the Cav's spot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 04:15 PM
What a mess, elite should have been 8 teams from the start. Cavs are pretty good and would get better staying in elite. Option could be 2 teams drop down and make up the games or swap cavs for cannons who never shy away from hard games. Bigger shame is that AAA has great parity so the teams dropping down would disrupt that. Just hoping for no byes or cancellations due to these shenanigans.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 04:47 PM
How can the cavs just pull out after the season started?

That’s just unfair to everyone else. And yes elite should have been 6 teams - maybe just 6.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 05:02 PM
Should have been 8 teams. Everyone plays everyone.

Agreed it’s lame to pull your team after it’s started.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 05:09 PM
Cavs should be banned from HOCO for bring such wussies

So Lame.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 05:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cannons, FCA White or Blue Claws will be moving up from AAA to take the Cav's spot.

Says who? I doubt this happens. However, Blue Claws (formerly known as Bel Air) would be the team that should go if that happens. They beat the Cannons and HLC at Summer Exposure last summer. They don’t seem to like to play up though. Never seen them challenge themselves and try to play in the top tier at tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 06:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cannons, FCA White or Blue Claws will be moving up from AAA to take the Cav's spot.

Says who? I doubt this happens. However, Blue Claws (formerly known as Bel Air) would be the team that should go if that happens. They beat the Cannons and HLC at Summer Exposure last summer. They don’t seem to like to play up though. Never seen them challenge themselves and try to play in the top tier at tournaments.

You’ve never seen them challenge themselves? What, in the one year they went from rec to club?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cannons, FCA White or Blue Claws will be moving up from AAA to take the Cav's spot.

Says who? I doubt this happens. However, Blue Claws (formerly known as Bel Air) would be the team that should go if that happens. They beat the Cannons and HLC at Summer Exposure last summer. They don’t seem to like to play up though. Never seen them challenge themselves and try to play in the top tier at tournaments.

You’ve never seen them challenge themselves? What, in the one year they went from rec to club?

Huh? Bel Air has been a club longer than a year. The 2028 team played in the last spring hoco league which was in 2019. Check their tournament records. They usually go undefeated in the tournaments they play in. They are not signing up to play against top competition. The name change is irrelevant to the discussion. It’s still the same program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 07:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cannons, FCA White or Blue Claws will be moving up from AAA to take the Cav's spot.

Says who? I doubt this happens. However, Blue Claws (formerly known as Bel Air) would be the team that should go if that happens. They beat the Cannons and HLC at Summer Exposure last summer. They don’t seem to like to play up though. Never seen them challenge themselves and try to play in the top tier at tournaments.

You’ve never seen them challenge themselves? What, in the one year they went from rec to club?

Huh? Bel Air has been a club longer than a year. The 2028 team played in the last spring hoco league which was in 2019. Check their tournament records. They usually go undefeated in the tournaments they play in. They are not signing up to play against top competition. The name change is irrelevant to the discussion. It’s still the same program.

Bel Air has had club offerings for the past couple years. Mostly "Club-lite." They were very good for a rec-based team but never competed in the AA or AAA level.

So if it's the same, squad, I'd say that's a step up. I am familiar with the Bel Air teams. My kid's team played the Blue Claws this summer. Those teams have a few of the same kids, but definitely some new faces and different coaching staffs from a year ago.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs should be banned from HOCO for bring such wussies

So Lame.

Assuming they registered to play in AAA, were forced into Elite and haven't been competitive with the Elite team, why blame them? When going through this with my 2023 son you couldn't be in elite unless your results showed it. Beat down games are waste of time for both teams. Moral killer for the lost and teacher of bad habits for the winners
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 07:28 PM
A swap of teams doesn’t make sense tho either.

Season has already started. Teams have all already played in their divisions. How would that work?

Do Cavs just not play at all? Why would they do that. Sounds like a silly alternative to losing games. And who says they would lose every game?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 07:29 PM
Better idea is to move HLC and Cavaliers down and go with 8 teams. At least the Cavaliers were competitive against Elite teams, HLC not so much.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 07:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cannons, FCA White or Blue Claws will be moving up from AAA to take the Cav's spot.

Says who? I doubt this happens. However, Blue Claws (formerly known as Bel Air) would be the team that should go if that happens. They beat the Cannons and HLC at Summer Exposure last summer. They don’t seem to like to play up though. Never seen them challenge themselves and try to play in the top tier at tournaments.

You’ve never seen them challenge themselves? What, in the one year they went from rec to club?

Huh? Bel Air has been a club longer than a year. The 2028 team played in the last spring hoco league which was in 2019. Check their tournament records. They usually go undefeated in the tournaments they play in. They are not signing up to play against top competition. The name change is irrelevant to the discussion. It’s still the same program.

Bel Air has had club offerings for the past couple years. Mostly "Club-lite." They were very good for a rec-based team but never competed in the AA or AAA level.

So if it's the same, squad, I'd say that's a step up. I am familiar with the Bel Air teams. My kid's team played the Blue Claws this summer. Those teams have a few of the same kids, but definitely some new faces and different coaching staffs from a year ago.

HOCO, Hereford, Bethesda, and Kelly Post are all clubs that are attached to or affiliated with Rec programs. All of those teams compete on a high level. Don’t really see your point about Bel Air.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 07:56 PM
Cavs are a bunch of quitters.

What a great example to show their kids. Instead of competing...they quit on everyone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 08:22 PM
Wow, lots of dumping on Cavs. Does anybody know the true story on why they dropped down?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 08:27 PM
Can anybody give an honest assessment of how the Cavs would have done in Elite? If they had a chance to be competitive in most of their games but wanted to go trophy hunting in AAA, that is bad. But if they were projected to lose every game by 5-6 goals or more, then they did the right thing by dropping down. It would crush their own players' love for the game to get killed every week, and blowout games are a waste of time for both teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 08:39 PM
Honestly I think they would have been competitive with HLC, True KP and BLC. They were going to have a tough time with the top teams.

Also, you never know their situation relative to COVID, who knows how much they practiced.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 08:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, lots of dumping on Cavs. Does anybody know the true story on why they dropped down?

Well, do we actually know they dropped down?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 08:52 PM
They are better than BLC, Kelly Post, and HLC. HOCO should always cap Elite at 8 for competitive balance, everyone plays each other once. With just 4 teams making playoffs the unbalanced schedule could leave a deserving team out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/23/21 08:53 PM
Coming out of a lost season, it is anybody's guess but quitting should be the last option. They went 0-3 in the Spring invitational with a 0-9 loss to crabs that probably spooked the parents/coaches but it is not a reason to forfeit a season and I hope they don't. Understandable and not here to dump on them and think they are good team. Cavs would have gone 2-5, maybe 3-4 and possibly better. The back to back with Hawks/Crabs/Madlax stretch would be tough and could be lopsided games but also could create a big upset fi they hung in any them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 12:59 AM
Anybody know someone on the Cavs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 01:17 PM
What do people think about Crabs v. Madlax? Crabs has had some good results recently. Think they can give Madlax a run?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 01:50 PM
We just played ML, still very good. They are sound and fundamental and are aggressive. The goalie is very solid. Have not seen the Crabs play in a while but IMHO I think the 28 is wide open where FCA, Hawks, Crabs, NL, ML, True could all possibly beat one another. Just based on what I have seen I would think FCA, Hawks, and ML may be the best of the bunch. Just an opinion but it looks like every week will be a dogfight. I think they are all solid teams. With that said NL is always tough and True is improving every week. Crabs and ML should be a competitive game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 02:11 PM
This is true generally but goalie and face off strength really is going to tip the balance for the top 5-6 teams. All the top teams are good at possessing the ball and play pretty sound defense. Goalies and face off are going to decide most games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 02:15 PM
Madlax 9- Crabs 7. Bet me! hahah
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 02:54 PM
Totally anecdotal, but I saw MadLax and Next Level play my son's team in the last few weeks (Hawks). While the scores were similar, I thought Next Level was the better team. Next Level made us pay for doing "dense" things and could have easily won, while we made mental mistakes against MadLax which kept it closer than it should have been (ran out of bounds 2x with nobody on us and didn't get into the box 3 times). Both teams were good and I would guess both would beat the Crabs, but who knows? There are some really good players on all of these teams.

They are 10/11 y/o old kids, a few weeks of practice still makes a big difference.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 03:22 PM
Thanks Hawks dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Totally anecdotal, but I saw MadLax and Next Level play my son's team in the last few weeks (Hawks). While the scores were similar, I thought Next Level was the better team. Next Level made us pay for doing "dense" things and could have easily won, while we made mental mistakes against MadLax which kept it closer than it should have been (ran out of bounds 2x with nobody on us and didn't get into the box 3 times). Both teams were good and I would guess both would beat the Crabs, but who knows? There are some really good players on all of these teams.

They are 10/11 y/o old kids, a few weeks of practice still makes a big difference.

Absolutely. A few plays either way can lead to a win for any one of these teams. I would imagine by the end of the year, the team that wins the Ship will have earned it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 04:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax 9- Crabs 7. Bet me! hahah

7-4 madlax wins.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 04:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax 9- Crabs 7. Bet me! hahah

7-4 madlax wins.
It will be closer than 3. Last possession wins game. You heard it here first.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 05:34 PM
Anyone seen a schedule update?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/24/21 10:58 PM
Haven't seen Crabs in a while, but they're not going to beat ML through their set offense. If they win the majority of faceoffs and play good transition offense (both Madlax weak points), they'll be able to hang no problem.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/25/21 01:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone define what a holdback is? If a kid has a summer birthday and his parents understandably have him do an extra year of preschool does that make him a holdback?

To be sure, 6 months can make a difference at this age, but if you failed to understand or learn about childhood development and pushed your kid into kindergarten so he could be the youngest in the class for some reason then you made a bad call and that’s on you.

If you hold your kid back in middle school and have him play with his new grade then that’s weak. That kid is now a holdback and should be called out.

I just want to clear this up so everyone can either relax and appreciate their son’s work ethic and commitment or stew in their own bad parenting decisions. One choice is for winners...

What parents do is their business summer holdback dad, It is getting an advantage in YOUTH sports that other children born on the same day dont get. I always say, Everyone should be allowed to play down a year if they want, irregardless of grade. Then it would be a fair youth system, but then, you holdbacks wouldnt get an advantage in youth

Anyone who thought it was a good idea to put their kid in kindergarten so he could turn 18 the summer after his senior year is a Camaro driving stunad, but if it’s that upsetting to you then you should hold your kid back. I remember playing against a kid with a moustache when I was 12. He dominated and it felt unfair. By 8th grade he was average and by high school nobody heard from him again. Your kid is in 5th grade. Relax. Hold him back or stop complaining.

holdbacks rule in High School as they rule in Middle School. MIAA D1 players are mainly ( not all) holdbacks. It works.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/25/21 01:48 AM
Madlax over Crabs. But - CLOSER THAN THE EXPERTS THINK!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/25/21 03:22 PM
FCA teams playing Elite and AAA in HoCo.
They are also registered for the MYLA club division this year.
Not sure which team. or if they have a 3rd.
Perhaps we will see more club teams joining MYLA and avoiding the drive to HoCo.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/25/21 06:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FCA teams playing Elite and AAA in HoCo.
They are also registered for the MYLA club division this year.
Not sure which team. or if they have a 3rd.
Perhaps we will see more club teams joining MYLA and avoiding the drive to HoCo.

The reality is HOCO is where you will find the best teams. For a third team it definitely makes sense. But for teams in elite or AAA where there are only 10-12 teams at your level it’s harder to find good games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/25/21 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone seen a schedule update?

Just checked the schedule and it looks like HLC is now playing True KP. Cavs are MIA and Hawks no longer have a game this weekend. Communication on this has been very poor, anyone know what is going on?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/25/21 08:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone seen a schedule update?

Just checked the schedule and it looks like HLC is now playing True KP. Cavs are MIA and Hawks no longer have a game this weekend. Communication on this has been very poor, anyone know what is going on?

The Hawks still have the Cavs on the schedule. This makes no sense. Hawks next game is 4/11.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/26/21 01:43 AM
This is so poorly done... one team has thrown everything in flux. So notIntelligent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/26/21 02:02 AM
Apparently HLC is moving down. That makes sense, I know the coach but haven’t asked him. He said a while ago they had trouble getting new players and lost a couple. Don’t know about anyone else.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/27/21 02:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Apparently HLC is moving down. That makes sense, I know the coach but haven’t asked him. He said a while ago they had trouble getting new players and lost a couple. Don’t know about anyone else.

Looks like HLC is playing True KP so they are still in elite. Hawks have no game nor do Cavs. So it seems like Cavs are out...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/27/21 08:41 PM
Does anyone know what happened to Cavs? Did the whole 2028 elite team fold altogether? Those parents/kids must be bummed to have gone from playing a season against top comp to done zip zilch.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/28/21 03:51 AM
From HOCO.................

2028 Division Alignment Change
Final 2028 Elite and 2028 AAA alignment attached after Cavalier dropping out. More information on remaining schedule coming soon. Schedules for this weekend will remain the same. Only difference will be the Annapolis Hawks Green will receive a bye at the 2028 Elite division because they were supposed to play HLC this weekend (HLC AND True KP now in AAA).

All teams will make the playoffs at the 2028 elite level. Playoffs will simply start a week earlier for 2028 elite (5/8) so they can get the guaranteed 7 games. We will seed the teams once all regular season games have been completed. Winners will advance to semifinals on championship weekend.

1 seed – BYE
2 seed vs 7 seed
3 seed vs 6 seed
4 seed vs 5 seed
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/28/21 05:54 PM
Wow. Big changes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/28/21 05:55 PM
Madlax destroyed Crabs. Woahhh
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/29/21 01:00 AM
Some surprising results today. True over FCA and Madlax winning big over Crabs. Seems like we could see some wild swings week to week. But great wins today for Madlax and True.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/29/21 02:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax destroyed Crabs. Woahhh

What's funny is that the Crabs beat BLC pretty bad but NextLevel was somewhat tight with them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/29/21 02:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know what happened to Cavs? Did the whole 2028 elite team fold altogether? Those parents/kids must be bummed to have gone from playing a season against top comp to done zip zilch.

HLC was on the field ready to play, Cavs didn't show up.

HLC, Cavs and KP all wanted to play AAA and were put in Elite. Cavs decided not to play at all.

Some of the info above is 2nd hand. smile
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/31/21 03:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax over Crabs. But - CLOSER THAN THE EXPERTS THINK!


This did not age well
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/31/21 06:26 PM
Right- that didn’t age well at all!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 03/31/21 08:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax over Crabs. But - CLOSER THAN THE EXPERTS THINK!


This did not age well

Not surprising. I doubt Lee Corso watches all that much fifth grade lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/03/21 09:42 PM
No schedule updates yet??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/04/21 02:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No schedule updates yet??

They put out the first week like the day before, why get ahead?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/04/21 09:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax over Crabs. But - CLOSER THAN THE EXPERTS THINK!


This did not age well

Give it time,,,By 8th grade, Crabs will be in the mix for top team. Every year is the same thing for Crabs younger teams. Look at Crabs, cant compete,,,,8th grade Look at Crabs, one of best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/04/21 12:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No schedule updates yet??

They put out the first week like the day before, why get ahead?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No schedule updates yet??




Schedules are out now for the rest of the season
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/04/21 12:54 PM
Updated schedules are out. Teams have byes now and looks like first FCA game was removed from the records?

This is all disappointing and annoying. I understand that Cavs didn't want to play in the Elite. However,in life you play with the hands that were dealt.

HLC, KP, and BLC all lined up and showed up to play.

Cavs literally quit on everyone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/04/21 03:19 PM
Looks like Madlax gets a bye now, Hawks had one last week. Big chunks of time around Easter to not get a game. Shame on the Cavs I guess- teaching a tough lesson here the wrong way.

Silver lining- Crabs get to play Hawks now, who weren’t originally on our schedule

Good luck to everyone the rest of the way
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/04/21 04:38 PM
Super disappointed in the situation with the Cavs, but I have to say my respect for BLC has grown tremendously—- they are sticking it out and ready to take their lumps.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/05/21 11:58 AM
So Cavs 28 kids are now going to have no spring season for 2 years in a row. How is that going to help their development?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/05/21 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Cavs 28 kids are now going to have no spring season for 2 years in a row. How is that going to help their development?

The only thing I can think of is the parents must have voted to just not play. Otherwise if the program just decided to cancel the season I’m not sure how there wasn’t a full on mutiny.

Bizarre Situation. Feel bad for the kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/05/21 02:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Cavs 28 kids are now going to have no spring season for 2 years in a row. How is that going to help their development?

They're not playing at all? I thought they just moved down a division.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/05/21 02:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Cavs 28 kids are now going to have no spring season for 2 years in a row. How is that going to help their development?

They're not playing at all? I thought they just moved down a division.

HLC and True KP moved down, Cavs are gone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/08/21 02:41 PM
Alright- wise lacrosse dads, what are your picks for this weekends games?

Hawks vs Crabs

True vs BLC

FCA vs Next Level

Madlax has a bye
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/08/21 04:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Alright- wise lacrosse dads, what are your picks for this weekends games?

Hawks vs Crabs

True vs BLC

FCA vs Next Level

Madlax has a bye



Hawks over Crabs

True over BLC

NL over FCA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/08/21 05:43 PM
Hawks (-4) over Crabs

True (-7) over BLC

FCA (-1) over NL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/08/21 05:55 PM
Madlax (-18) over bye
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/08/21 07:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks (-4) over Crabs

True (-7) over BLC

FCA (-1) over NL

NL is not going 0-2, they are very good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/08/21 08:56 PM
Hawks
True
Next Level
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/09/21 02:39 PM
Hawks big
True close
Next Level big
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/10/21 10:21 PM
Hawks 10-4
True 9-6
Next Level 11-7

My predictions!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/11/21 10:02 PM
Hilarious everyone who had confidence in Next Level. Great athletes. But all they do is dodge 1 on 1. Coaching non-existent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 12:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hilarious everyone who had confidence in Next Level. Great athletes. But all they do is dodge 1 on 1. Coaching non-existent.

What was the score?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 01:32 AM
Who won between Next Level and FCA?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks (-4) over Crabs

True (-7) over BLC

FCA (-1) over NL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 01:55 AM
Madlax/Hawks at the end of season shaping up to be a good one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 01:59 AM
Did next level lose today??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 02:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hilarious everyone who had confidence in Next Level. Great athletes. But all they do is dodge 1 on 1. Coaching non-existent.

I was one of them, what was the score?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 02:32 AM
FCA won 8-7 in overtime. NL parent. FCA did not look great and still won. The decline from the fall is something. Even the BLC game was close.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 02:42 AM
8-7 FCA over Next Level. Great game!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 03:27 AM
So NL, question is what is happening? These scores are surprising.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 12:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks (-4) over Crabs

True (-7) over BLC

FCA (-1) over NL

Gotta give credit where credit is due...True won by 7, FCA won by 1...and the Hawks prediction was looking good until they pulled away late.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 01:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So NL, question is what is happening? These scores are surprising.

Some of it is that the kids are 11 and don’t always play their best. But coaching is a pretty obvious issue that anyone can see.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 02:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So NL, question is what is happening? These scores are surprising.

Some of it is that the kids are 11 and don’t always play their best. But coaching is a pretty obvious issue that anyone can see.

I think this is right. If you look at the record when the head coach is there vs when he not it is pretty stark. Team is something like 11-0 and 10 of 11 wins by five goals or more when he is not there this year. When present, team is 12-4 and 7 of 16 games won by five or more. Direct opponent comparisons. Vs Cavs when present: Win by 3. Not present wins by 10 and 12. FCA when present, 2 losses and 1 win by 1. FCA when not there, win by 5.

Nice guy, but is really fixated on getting the ball in a set play to a handful of kids who then dodge 1 on 3, which leads to not great results. This team has a big athletic and speed advantage and scores easily in unsettled situations if coaches don’t get in the way and allow the ball to be shared more naturally rather than the artificial structure of a called play where defense has time to set. Team in the fall when HC was coaching older team was strong because of its depth and sharing of the ball. Now looks like a showcase team for a couple favored players and the results speak for themselves.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 05:38 PM
Your kid must not be getting the ball, but it’s probably a realistic assessment
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 05:40 PM
There’s the scorned lax parent We know and love. Why is the NL coach sometimes there and and sometimes not?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 07:33 PM
Predictions for this weekend:

Crabs over an unraveling NL by 2
Hawks over True by 4
Madlax takes care of FCA by 8
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 07:41 PM
My kid plays for Next Level. The coach is amazing. He teaches the kids so much and he's all about development and giving every kid a chance. Does any adult on this forum remember what their youth lacrosse record was in 5th grade? As parents, do you care about the team's record or do you care about your kid growing as a player and a person? The Next Level coach does things the right way on and off the field. It's true the team hasn't played well the last 3 games. It's also true they've been missing key kids in each of those games (which is not a good excuse for losing because I'm sure every other team has had same issue this spring -- but 3 games is a small sample size and both losses came on man down situations at end of 4th Q or OT). Next Level should be getting the full squad back soon. When they do, they'll be tough to beat. But there are a lot of strong teams in this division, so who knows? But I can tell you the Next Level coaches do an awesome job.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 09:03 PM
Good to see the NL coach reads the forum.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 10:14 PM
The 28's might be the only Dad coached team NL has.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/12/21 11:30 PM
The topic of NL coaches is boring. I thought the purpose of these boards was to bash the Hawks and Madlax dads that wear vests. Let’s get back to that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 02:38 AM
Agreed. Although we MUST start throwing the uneducated True parents into the mix. You know- add a little bit of spice
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 03:45 AM
NL doesn’t have dad coaches
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 09:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid plays for Next Level. The coach is amazing. He teaches the kids so much and he's all about development and giving every kid a chance. Does any adult on this forum remember what their youth lacrosse record was in 5th grade? As parents, do you care about the team's record or do you care about your kid growing as a player and a person? The Next Level coach does things the right way on and off the field. It's true the team hasn't played well the last 3 games. It's also true they've been missing key kids in each of those games (which is not a good excuse for losing because I'm sure every other team has had same issue this spring -- but 3 games is a small sample size and both losses came on man down situations at end of 4th Q or OT). Next Level should be getting the full squad back soon. When they do, they'll be tough to beat. But there are a lot of strong teams in this division, so who knows? But I can tell you the Next Level coaches do an awesome job.

Thanks Coach ! Nice assessment of how you coach, but most of us want a W not excuses.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 09:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So NL, question is what is happening? These scores are surprising.

Some of it is that the kids are 11 and don’t always play their best. But coaching is a pretty obvious issue that anyone can see.

I think this is right. If you look at the record when the head coach is there vs when he not it is pretty stark. Team is something like 11-0 and 10 of 11 wins by five goals or more when he is not there this year. When present, team is 12-4 and 7 of 16 games won by five or more. Direct opponent comparisons. Vs Cavs when present: Win by 3. Not present wins by 10 and 12. FCA when present, 2 losses and 1 win by 1. FCA when not there, win by 5.

Nice guy, but is really fixated on getting the ball in a set play to a handful of kids who then dodge 1 on 3, which leads to not great results. This team has a big athletic and speed advantage and scores easily in unsettled situations if coaches don’t get in the way and allow the ball to be shared more naturally rather than the artificial structure of a called play where defense has time to set. Team in the fall when HC was coaching older team was strong because of its depth and sharing of the ball. Now looks like a showcase team for a couple favored players and the results speak for themselves.

May be a reason your son is not getting the ball, ask the coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 09:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The topic of NL coaches is boring. I thought the purpose of these boards was to bash the Hawks and Madlax dads that wear vests. Let’s get back to that.

Did you hear about the email the Madlax director sent to a HS player 10 years ago ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 10:36 AM
Yes. Talk to the coach. They are very responsive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 10:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NL doesn’t have dad coaches

The 2028 absolutely has a Dad coach and is listed on the site. The Dad also has a son on the 2026's and he asked/demanded to coach. The dad has a playing resume but so do lots of other parents of players at NL. I don't know why NL lets him coach his own son. It is opposite what they tell everyone and what people believe.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 12:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NL doesn’t have dad coaches

The 2028 absolutely has a Dad coach and is listed on the site. The Dad also has a son on the 2026's and he asked/demanded to coach. The dad has a playing resume but so do lots of other parents of players at NL. I don't know why NL lets him coach his own son. It is opposite what they tell everyone and what people believe.

This is wrong. The website is out of date. There was a dad who helped when the team was younger. The club director and a rotating group of non-dad assistant coaches coach the team now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 01:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid plays for Next Level. The coach is amazing. He teaches the kids so much and he's all about development and giving every kid a chance. Does any adult on this forum remember what their youth lacrosse record was in 5th grade? As parents, do you care about the team's record or do you care about your kid growing as a player and a person? The Next Level coach does things the right way on and off the field. It's true the team hasn't played well the last 3 games. It's also true they've been missing key kids in each of those games (which is not a good excuse for losing because I'm sure every other team has had same issue this spring -- but 3 games is a small sample size and both losses came on man down situations at end of 4th Q or OT). Next Level should be getting the full squad back soon. When they do, they'll be tough to beat. But there are a lot of strong teams in this division, so who knows? But I can tell you the Next Level coaches do an awesome job.

NL dad you might want to check “all about development and giving every kid a chance” line with parents of an older NL team. Mitchell play book is to line pockets with the young teams with talk of development and then recruit a new set of players for the older teams by offering free rides for players of other clubs. That’s how the 2024 and 2025 teams were built. Very few players from fifth grade still on those teams. Check the rosters.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 01:53 PM
I love the NL implosion posts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The topic of NL coaches is boring. I thought the purpose of these boards was to bash the Hawks and Madlax dads that wear vests. Let’s get back to that.

Did you hear about the email the Madlax director sent to a HS player 10 years ago ?
That’s a decade old dead horse tired of being beaten. Move on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The topic of NL coaches is boring. I thought the purpose of these boards was to bash the Hawks and Madlax dads that wear vests. Let’s get back to that.

Did you hear about the email the Madlax director sent to a HS player 10 years ago ?
That’s a decade old dead horse tired of being beaten. Move on.

Looks like you missed the joke buddy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 03:10 PM
Week 4 Predictions

Crabs vs Next Level(-3)
Hawks(-4) vs True
Madlax vs FCA (-2)
Bye(-3) vs BLC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 03:33 PM
Week 4 Predictions

Crabs vs Next Level(-3)
Hawks(-4) vs True
Madlax vs FCA (-2)
Bye(-3) vs BLC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 04:12 PM
Doesn't this happen with many of the "elite" teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 06:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NL doesn’t have dad coaches

The 2028 absolutely has a Dad coach and is listed on the site. The Dad also has a son on the 2026's and he asked/demanded to coach. The dad has a playing resume but so do lots of other parents of players at NL. I don't know why NL lets him coach his own son. It is opposite what they tell everyone and what people believe.

This is wrong. The website is out of date. There was a dad who helped when the team was younger. The club director and a rotating group of non-dad assistant coaches coach the team now.

That was a different Dad. There is one left.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 06:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid plays for Next Level. The coach is amazing. He teaches the kids so much and he's all about development and giving every kid a chance. Does any adult on this forum remember what their youth lacrosse record was in 5th grade? As parents, do you care about the team's record or do you care about your kid growing as a player and a person? The Next Level coach does things the right way on and off the field. It's true the team hasn't played well the last 3 games. It's also true they've been missing key kids in each of those games (which is not a good excuse for losing because I'm sure every other team has had same issue this spring -- but 3 games is a small sample size and both losses came on man down situations at end of 4th Q or OT). Next Level should be getting the full squad back soon. When they do, they'll be tough to beat. But there are a lot of strong teams in this division, so who knows? But I can tell you the Next Level coaches do an awesome job.

NL dad you might want to check “all about development and giving every kid a chance” line with parents of an older NL team. Mitchell play book is to line pockets with the young teams with talk of development and then recruit a new set of players for the older teams by offering free rides for players of other clubs. That’s how the 2024 and 2025 teams were built. Very few players from fifth grade still on those teams. Check the rosters.

NL, like a lot of clubs, have A and B teams. It doesn't surprise me the rosters change quite a bit as kids mature; their interests change; and players change rosters to get on better teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 06:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The topic of NL coaches is boring. I thought the purpose of these boards was to bash the Hawks and Madlax dads that wear vests. Let’s get back to that.

Did you hear about the email the Madlax director sent to a HS player 10 years ago ?
That’s a decade old dead horse tired of being beaten. Move on.

Looks like you missed the joke buddy.

Or the IG intimidation, or the roster cheating for years in a row, or the wholesale poaching of teams...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The topic of NL coaches is boring. I thought the purpose of these boards was to bash the Hawks and Madlax dads that wear vests. Let’s get back to that.

Did you hear about the email the Madlax director sent to a HS player 10 years ago ?
That’s a decade old dead horse tired of being beaten. Move on.

Looks like you missed the joke buddy.
No, and not your buddy. hammerhead.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/13/21 08:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The topic of NL coaches is boring. I thought the purpose of these boards was to bash the Hawks and Madlax dads that wear vests. Let’s get back to that.

Did you hear about the email the Madlax director sent to a HS player 10 years ago ?
That’s a decade old dead horse tired of being beaten. Move on.

Looks like you missed the joke buddy.
No, and not your buddy. hammerhead.

Ahhhhhh, another internet tough. Probably watching games in your pink Vineyard Vines shirt and your "mall crawler" Jeep is parked in the parking lot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/14/21 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Week 4 Predictions

Crabs vs Next Level(-3)
Hawks(-4) vs True
Madlax vs FCA (-2)
Bye(-3) vs BLC

NL over Crabs by 4
Hawks over True by 6
Madlax over FCA by 7
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/14/21 06:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The topic of NL coaches is boring. I thought the purpose of these boards was to bash the Hawks and Madlax dads that wear vests. Let’s get back to that.

Did you hear about the email the Madlax director sent to a HS player 10 years ago ?
That’s a decade old dead horse tired of being beaten. Move on.

Looks like you missed the joke buddy.
No, and not your buddy. hammerhead.

Ahhhhhh, another internet tough. Probably watching games in your pink Vineyard Vines shirt and your "mall crawler" Jeep is parked in the parking lot.

What’s a mall crawler keep?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/14/21 06:45 PM
A mall crawler is a jeep that looks rugged and off-road ready, but really is used to drop kids off at practices or “the mall” in a somewhat dated reference. You’ll see tons of examples in the parking lots of fields across Howard County on sundays in the spring. Often a Madlax Dad in a vest will exit them. Also okay to refer to these vehicle as “brodozers” or a “street princess.”
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/14/21 08:44 PM
Brodozer. Love that!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/16/21 02:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Week 4 Predictions

Crabs vs Next Level(-3)
Hawks(-4) vs True
Madlax vs FCA (-2)
Bye(-3) vs BLC

NL over Crabs by 4
Hawks over True by 6
Madlax over FCA by 7

NL over Crabs by 3
Hawks over True by 5
FCA over ML by 2
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/16/21 03:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The topic of NL coaches is boring. I thought the purpose of these boards was to bash the Hawks and Madlax dads that wear vests. Let’s get back to that.

Did you hear about the email the Madlax director sent to a HS player 10 years ago ?
That’s a decade old dead horse tired of being beaten. Move on.

Looks like you missed the joke buddy.

Or the IG intimidation, or the roster cheating for years in a row, or the wholesale poaching of teams...

Looks like someone's son lost his spot on MadLax. Stop moaning and have him Hit The Wall !!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/19/21 12:56 AM
FCA dad was pretty close on the first two games but laid a big fat egg on the third game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/19/21 01:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Week 4 Predictions

Crabs vs Next Level(-3)
Hawks(-4) vs True
Madlax vs FCA (-2)
Bye(-3) vs BLC

NL over Crabs by 4
Hawks over True by 6
Madlax over FCA by 7

Nice predictions... chalk but still nice.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/19/21 02:03 AM
FCA dad was blinded by his homerism.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/19/21 02:49 AM
Troy Park report:

Madlax looks really good as always, FCA looked out of sorts

Caught the end of Hawks/True, guess True kept it close early but Hawks appeared to be scoring at will at the end

* 2nd hand report- Next Level also pulled away late, Crabs led early.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/19/21 12:19 PM
True was short handed. Maybe not 7 goals short handed but...

Madlax loooked tough
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/19/21 02:03 PM
Definitely looks like we have:

Madlax and Hawks battling for the 1 and 2 seeds.

Then Next Level, FCA, and True in the middle fighting for the 3,4, and 5 seeds.

Then Crabs with the sixth seed and BLC with the seventh. BLC should be given props for staying and competing hard in this division.

This weekend’s slate of games probably won’t affect the balance too much.

Hawks likely to win big over BLC.

FCA probably has enough offense to get by Crabs.

You’d think Madlax would be able to beat Next Level fairly easily comparing common opponents this spring. But NL did beat Madlax this fall. NL has had difficulty generating offense it seems. Only 5 and 8 goals against Crabs and BLC seem low given the players they have. Could be an interesting game if NL can score enough.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/19/21 02:53 PM
Yes- BLC parents have to be squirming, but kudos to them for hanging in there. Been there, it’s not fun
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/19/21 05:45 PM
NL has a few very good midfielders. If you can defend well against them, not much firepower elsewhere. Mad lax offense is very impressive off-ball. If NL can get passed True, the 3rd and 4th place may come down to goal deferential. FCA can help themselves by play well against Crabs and BLC.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/19/21 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NL has a few very good midfielders. If you can defend well against them, not much firepower elsewhere. Mad lax offense is very impressive off-ball. If NL can get passed True, the 3rd and 4th place may come down to goal deferential. FCA can help themselves by play well against Crabs and BLC.

This came up before in previous years, but goal differential is not the tie breaker for whatever reason. Tie breaker is head to head, win % of teams beat, win % of teams played, goals allowed, and then a coin toss. So if all of NL, FCA, and True finish 3-3 with (and NL beats True), the first three tiebreakers wouldn’t break the tie so it would come down to goals allowed to determine the 3,4,and 5 seeds. Not that it matters all that much since everyone makes the playoffs this year . . . or because this is fifth grade lacrosse and I doubt there’s much wagering of the seeding of the teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/20/21 01:11 AM
TONS of betting going on Ha
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/20/21 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NL has a few very good midfielders. If you can defend well against them, not much firepower elsewhere. Mad lax offense is very impressive off-ball. If NL can get passed True, the 3rd and 4th place may come down to goal deferential. FCA can help themselves by play well against Crabs and BLC.

This came up before in previous years, but goal differential is not the tie breaker for whatever reason. Tie breaker is head to head, win % of teams beat, win % of teams played, goals allowed, and then a coin toss. So if all of NL, FCA, and True finish 3-3 with (and NL beats True), the first three tiebreakers wouldn’t break the tie so it would come down to goals allowed to determine the 3,4,and 5 seeds. Not that it matters all that much since everyone makes the playoffs this year . . . or because this is fifth grade lacrosse and I doubt there’s much wagering of the seeding of the teams.

Seeding:
1. Madlax
2. Hawks
3. Next Level
4. FCA
5. True
6. Crabs
7. BLC

Opening Rd of Playoffs:
1 Madlax - bye
2 Hawks vs 7 BLC
3 NL vs 6 Crabs
4 FCA vs 5 True

Semis:
Madlax vs FCA (1 vs lowest seed)
Hawks vs NL (2 vs 3)

Finals:
Madlax vs Hawks

Champ:
Madlax
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/20/21 04:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NL has a few very good midfielders. If you can defend well against them, not much firepower elsewhere. Mad lax offense is very impressive off-ball. If NL can get passed True, the 3rd and 4th place may come down to goal deferential. FCA can help themselves by play well against Crabs and BLC.

This came up before in previous years, but goal differential is not the tie breaker for whatever reason. Tie breaker is head to head, win % of teams beat, win % of teams played, goals allowed, and then a coin toss. So if all of NL, FCA, and True finish 3-3 with (and NL beats True), the first three tiebreakers wouldn’t break the tie so it would come down to goals allowed to determine the 3,4,and 5 seeds. Not that it matters all that much since everyone makes the playoffs this year . . . or because this is fifth grade lacrosse and I doubt there’s much wagering of the seeding of the teams.

Seeding:
1. Madlax
2. Hawks
3. Next Level
4. FCA
5. True
6. Crabs
7. BLC

Opening Rd of Playoffs:
1 Madlax - bye
2 Hawks vs 7 BLC
3 NL vs 6 Crabs
4 FCA vs 5 True

Semis:
Madlax vs FCA (1 vs lowest seed)
Hawks vs NL (2 vs 3)

Finals:
Madlax vs Hawks

Champ:
Madlax

Very confident MadLax will beat the Hawks, twice. Interesting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/20/21 04:47 PM
Thanks Madlax Dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/21/21 01:48 AM
Madlax wins the regular season match up, Hawks win the ‘ship.

-Not a Hawks dad
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/21/21 03:02 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NL has a few very good midfielders. If you can defend well against them, not much firepower elsewhere. Mad lax offense is very impressive off-ball. If NL can get passed True, the 3rd and 4th place may come down to goal deferential. FCA can help themselves by play well against Crabs and BLC.

This came up before in previous years, but goal differential is not the tie breaker for whatever reason. Tie breaker is head to head, win % of teams beat, win % of teams played, goals allowed, and then a coin toss. So if all of NL, FCA, and True finish 3-3 with (and NL beats True), the first three tiebreakers wouldn’t break the tie so it would come down to goals allowed to determine the 3,4,and 5 seeds. Not that it matters all that much since everyone makes the playoffs this year . . . or because this is fifth grade lacrosse and I doubt there’s much wagering of the seeding of the teams.

Seeding:
1. Madlax
2. Hawks
3. Next Level
4. FCA
5. True
6. Crabs
7. BLC

Opening Rd of Playoffs:
1 Madlax - bye
2 Hawks vs 7 BLC
3 NL vs 6 Crabs
4 FCA vs 5 True

Semis:
Madlax vs FCA (1 vs lowest seed)
Hawks vs NL (2 vs 3)

Finals:
Madlax vs Hawks

Champ:
Madlax

Very confident MadLax will beat the Hawks, twice. Interesting.

And confident a Letter from Director is in the cards
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/21/21 11:20 AM
He probably already has that letter drafted up ready to hit send!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/21/21 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He probably already has that letter drafted up ready to hit send!

What’s the letter from the director reference? Hawks, MadLax or GHLC?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/22/21 01:42 PM
Predictions for the weekend...

Hawks by 11 over BLC
Madlax by 4 over Next Level
FCA by 2 over Crabs

True has the bye
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/22/21 04:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predictions for the weekend...

Hawks by 11 over BLC
Madlax by 4 over Next Level
FCA by 2 over Crabs

True has the bye

Hawks by 10
Next Level by 2
FCA by 6
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/22/21 04:45 PM
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Predictions for the weekend...

Hawks by 11 over BLC
Madlax by 4 over Next Level
FCA by 2 over Crabs

True has the bye

Hawks by 10
Next Level by 2
FCA by 6

I’ve seen the Crabs play a few times now. They are a really good team but it seems like they don’t have or don’t play enough kids. It seems like the first group has then up or close at half and they just get run out in the 2nd half. If these were 30 minute tourney games they would be tough to beat.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/22/21 05:50 PM
Agreed on the Crabs. Almost seems like their top tier players should play elsewhere.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/22/21 06:04 PM
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Agreed on the Crabs. Almost seems like their top tier players should play elsewhere.
They run their offense through four players. If they utilized more of them, they would play better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 02:41 AM
Didn’t Hawks beat Madlax in DE earlier this year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 09:29 AM
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Didn’t Hawks beat Madlax in DE earlier this year?

6-4. Could have gone either way. Will be interesting to see how it plays out in a few weeks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 11:19 AM
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Agreed on the Crabs. Almost seems like their top tier players should play elsewhere.

This is not made up or taking a shot. Crabs are known for holding back about half the team once they get to 8th grade. At this age it really doesn't matter. There will be enough parents who will make their kid repeat a year of school for a club lacrosse director that it always works out for them by 7h/8th grade because 75% of the team is 2 years older then everyone they play. They will tell you that is their plan. It's not a secret.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 12:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn’t Hawks beat Madlax in DE earlier this year?

6-4. Could have gone either way. Will be interesting to see how it plays out in a few weeks.

Those 27s on the 28s keep improving! Any 26s? As I understand some of them are failing school but keep on the wall, hw doesn't matter!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 01:28 PM
27/28 Hawks -9 over BLC
Madlax -2 over Next Level
Upset Alert: Crabs over FCA by 1
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 01:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn’t Hawks beat Madlax in DE earlier this year?

6-4. Could have gone either way. Will be interesting to see how it plays out in a few weeks.

Those 27s on the 28s keep improving! Any 26s? As I understand some of them are failing school but keep on the wall, hw doesn't matter!


Are you talking about the Crabs? Hawks? Madlax?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 01:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn’t Hawks beat Madlax in DE earlier this year?

6-4. Could have gone either way. Will be interesting to see how it plays out in a few weeks.

Those 27s on the 28s keep improving! Any 26s? As I understand some of them are failing school but keep on the wall, hw doesn't matter!


Are you talking about the Crabs? Hawks? Madlax?

Hawks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn’t Hawks beat Madlax in DE earlier this year?

6-4. Could have gone either way. Will be interesting to see how it plays out in a few weeks.

Those 27s on the 28s keep improving! Any 26s? As I understand some of them are failing school but keep on the wall, hw doesn't matter!


Are you talking about the Crabs? Hawks? Madlax?

Hawks.

Low blow from Madlax dad who held his kid back a year in a private kindergarten.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 02:07 PM
Actually sounds like a disgruntled Hawks dad. That makes it extra creepy tbh. Lost playing time? edged out of a spot? Reclassified kids are a norm. Waaaay too many crybabies on here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 02:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually sounds like a disgruntled Hawks dad. That makes it extra creepy tbh. Lost playing time? edged out of a spot? Reclassified kids are a norm. Waaaay too many crybabies on here.

Then why do Hawks dad lie about their kids age?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 02:28 PM
I didn’t read above where anyone said anything about people lying about someones age. Sounds like a question you should ask someone personally, but that’s just me. Weird change of topic
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 02:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually sounds like a disgruntled Hawks dad. That makes it extra creepy tbh. Lost playing time? edged out of a spot? Reclassified kids are a norm. Waaaay too many crybabies on here.

Then why do Hawks dad lie about their kids age?

Go back a few pages, this has already been addressed by what I’m assuming was a hawks parent. Hawks added 3 5th graders (and a coach) who had been on the 27 team. these kids are 11 and are summer 2009 or 2010 bdays. They also got the pick of aa county in tryouts including a few kids from the botched Mesa takeover in severna park. The hawks team also had close games and lost to Next level in the fall with this roster and have improved with time, not additions. For those of us with older kids, get ready for much worse from the rest of the elite teams. The quality on the field for this age group is solid, try not to ruin it parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 02:53 PM
Hawks have some summer bday players, who are all in 5th grade, legit 2028’s and have been since they started school in kindergarten. They aren’t cheating, Hawks organization wouldn’t allow it. Hawks are known for many things, but cheating isn’t one of them - that reputation belongs to other clubs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 03:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks have some summer bday players, who are all in 5th grade, legit 2028’s and have been since they started school in kindergarten. They aren’t cheating, Hawks organization wouldn’t allow it. Hawks are known for many things, but cheating isn’t one of them - that reputation belongs to other clubs.


Correct. Let’s not ruin it folks.

Actually looks like Maryland might have the Top 2028 teams over the NY teams as of right now. Be nice to keep it that way.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 05:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks have some summer bday players, who are all in 5th grade, legit 2028’s and have been since they started school in kindergarten. They aren’t cheating, Hawks organization wouldn’t allow it. Hawks are known for many things, but cheating isn’t one of them - that reputation belongs to other clubs.


Correct. Let’s not ruin it folks.

Actually looks like Maryland might have the Top 2028 teams over the NY teams as of right now. Be nice to keep it that way.

Never said cheating. Parents from hawks teams putting other kids down and lying about ages. That's wrong.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 05:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Never said cheating. Parents from hawks teams putting other kids down and lying about ages. That's wrong.

Nobody knows what you're talking about.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Never said cheating. Parents from hawks teams putting other kids down and lying about ages. That's wrong.

Nobody knows what you're talking about.

Agreed, very vague and some advice. In order of comfort/effectiveness, talk to the parent, talk to the coach, talk to the director, have your coach/director reach out, keep opinions to yourself and move on, stir the pot and troll on an anonymous forum.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 06:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks have some summer bday players, who are all in 5th grade, legit 2028’s and have been since they started school in kindergarten. They aren’t cheating, Hawks organization wouldn’t allow it. Hawks are known for many things, but cheating isn’t one of them - that reputation belongs to other clubs.

Call it a summer birthday but anything before September 1 is a holdback.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 06:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks have some summer bday players, who are all in 5th grade, legit 2028’s and have been since they started school in kindergarten. They aren’t cheating, Hawks organization wouldn’t allow it. Hawks are known for many things, but cheating isn’t one of them - that reputation belongs to other clubs.

Call it a summer birthday but anything before September 1 is a holdback.

No. It's a 5th grader who is a month or two older. A holdback is someone who is held back for a second go around in the same grade. That normally happens in middle school.

My kid has an April birthday. Should I be a hammerhead about kids born in September? That's a much larger gap than a kid born, under your definition, August 31.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 06:34 PM
If the Hawks holdbacks were... lesser players.... nobody would be complaining. In this case, they appear to be Team Changing.” Like, took a team from B level obscurity to being one of the best around. Who cares- be happy we have better competition to play against.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 06:41 PM
The rosters are set, play ball.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 06:50 PM
Rosters are set...find a way to win.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 06:52 PM
Anything before 9-1 is a holdback.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 07:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks have some summer bday players, who are all in 5th grade, legit 2028’s and have been since they started school in kindergarten. They aren’t cheating, Hawks organization wouldn’t allow it. Hawks are known for many things, but cheating isn’t one of them - that reputation belongs to other clubs.

Call it a summer birthday but anything before September 1 is a holdback.

No. It's a 5th grader who is a month or two older. A holdback is someone who is held back for a second go around in the same grade. That normally happens in middle school.

My kid has an April birthday. Should I be a hammerhead about kids born in September? That's a much larger gap than a kid born, under your definition, August 31.

holdback. The other thing you mention is a reclass.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 07:11 PM
I agree all the Hawks talk is dense. It’s not like they are some unbeatable team. My sons team beat them in the fall and the game this spring was close with his team missing some key players and generally not playing its best so far this spring. Hawks were better that day, but it looked like the same team from the fall. They have a really good goalie and a couple good attackman and a solid group overall. Whining about holdbacks is a waste of time.

Lots of good teams in this group and I imagine things will swing back in forth over time. NL in my opinion looked best of the bunch in the fall. Now Hawks and Madlax have had the best results so far this spring. FCA or True or Crabs could gain a key player or two or just get better and be on top next fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 09:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree all the Hawks talk is dense. It’s not like they are some unbeatable team. My sons team beat them in the fall and the game this spring was close with his team missing some key players and generally not playing its best so far this spring. Hawks were better that day, but it looked like the same team from the fall. They have a really good goalie and a couple good attackman and a solid group overall. Whining about holdbacks is a waste of time.

Lots of good teams in this group and I imagine things will swing back in forth over time. NL in my opinion looked best of the bunch in the fall. Now Hawks and Madlax have had the best results so far this spring. FCA or True or Crabs could gain a key player or two or just get better and be on top next fall.


Thanks next level dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/23/21 10:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks have some summer bday players, who are all in 5th grade, legit 2028’s and have been since they started school in kindergarten. They aren’t cheating, Hawks organization wouldn’t allow it. Hawks are known for many things, but cheating isn’t one of them - that reputation belongs to other clubs.

Call it a summer birthday but anything before September 1 is a holdback.

No. It's a 5th grader who is a month or two older. A holdback is someone who is held back for a second go around in the same grade. That normally happens in middle school.

My kid has an April birthday. Should I be a hammerhead about kids born in September? That's a much larger gap than a kid born, under your definition, August 31.

holdback. The other thing you mention is a reclass.

Did HoCo change to an age based league?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/24/21 12:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks have some summer bday players, who are all in 5th grade, legit 2028’s and have been since they started school in kindergarten. They aren’t cheating, Hawks organization wouldn’t allow it. Hawks are known for many things, but cheating isn’t one of them - that reputation belongs to other clubs.

Not true, one held back this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/24/21 01:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks have some summer bday players, who are all in 5th grade, legit 2028’s and have been since they started school in kindergarten. They aren’t cheating, Hawks organization wouldn’t allow it. Hawks are known for many things, but cheating isn’t one of them - that reputation belongs to other clubs.

Not true, one held back this year.


Sounds like a reliable source 😂
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/24/21 01:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks have some summer bday players, who are all in 5th grade, legit 2028’s and have been since they started school in kindergarten. They aren’t cheating, Hawks organization wouldn’t allow it. Hawks are known for many things, but cheating isn’t one of them - that reputation belongs to other clubs.

Not true, one held back this year.

He was planning to hold back. Ended up deciding to stay in 27 and reclass later. So currently a 27.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/24/21 03:14 AM
So. Much. Crying.


Just play.....and stop whining.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/24/21 10:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks have some summer bday players, who are all in 5th grade, legit 2028’s and have been since they started school in kindergarten. They aren’t cheating, Hawks organization wouldn’t allow it. Hawks are known for many things, but cheating isn’t one of them - that reputation belongs to other clubs.

Call it a summer birthday but anything before September 1 is a holdback.

No. It's a 5th grader who is a month or two older. A holdback is someone who is held back for a second go around in the same grade. That normally happens in middle school.

My kid has an April birthday. Should I be a hammerhead about kids born in September? That's a much larger gap than a kid born, under your definition, August 31.

Hilarious.. holdback/pre first/reclass ,,,call it what you want. It is all the same. You are playing down. holdbacks/prefirst/reclass are getting an advantage that 95% of the players dont get.

Prefirst are the some of the best apologists, I am not a holdback,,I am not a holdback. You may not technically be called a holdback, but you are the exact same thing. LOL

Frankly the rule should be , anyone who wants, can play down a year irregardless of what grade you are in. Real simple and eliminates the advantage that goes mainly to private school players in MD. Never happen as it levels playing field and exposes the lacrosse world for letting select players get an advantage others dont.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/24/21 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks have some summer bday players, who are all in 5th grade, legit 2028’s and have been since they started school in kindergarten. They aren’t cheating, Hawks organization wouldn’t allow it. Hawks are known for many things, but cheating isn’t one of them - that reputation belongs to other clubs.

Not true, one held back this year.

He was planning to hold back. Ended up deciding to stay in 27 and reclass later. So currently a 27.

That would be the fourth. One of the 3 held back this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/24/21 08:44 PM
irregardless....maybe your parents should have held you back
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/24/21 09:35 PM
The NY crowd/kids/parents love to troll the rest of the country on this topic. They are so upset they've lost their perch on the lacrosse throne.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/24/21 11:12 PM
It's not irrigardless. It's regardless. Someone should have definitely held you back.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/24/21 11:54 PM
"irregardless" - this word does not exist
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/25/21 01:31 AM
You have zero idea what you are talking about Fake Hawks dad. Even if you were a Hawks parent, it would be super creepy to be in here running your mouth about your own team. And if you are not, which we are sure of, you’re talking out of school. What a lost
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/25/21 11:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's not irrigardless. It's regardless. Someone should have definitely held you back.

Sorry, Might want to think about " Hitting The Books ". LOL

Merriam-Webster defines irregardless as "nonstandard" but meaning the same as "regardless." "Many people find irregardless to be a nonsensical word, as the ir- prefix usually functions to indicates negation; however, in this case it appears to function as an intensifier," the dictionary writes

Merriam-Webster Has Officially Recognized 'irregardless' As A Word.


According to the Oxford English Dictionary (OED), irregardless was first acknowledged in 1912 by the Wentworth American Dialect Dictionary as originating from western Indiana, though the word was in use in South Carolina before Indiana became a territory.

And its an official scrabble word !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/25/21 12:24 PM
Lacrosse should be aged based until high school. But since many kids aren’t good enough to be “elite” - parents want to have them play younger kids to say they are “elite.”


It’s immensely annoying.

But hey club national rankings for 2028 come out soon!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/25/21 06:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse should be aged based until high school. But since many kids aren’t good enough to be “elite” - parents want to have them play younger kids to say they are “elite.”


It’s immensely annoying.

But hey club national rankings for 2028 come out soon!

Plenty of primary age based sports. See ya.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/25/21 10:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse should be aged based until high school. But since many kids aren’t good enough to be “elite” - parents want to have them play younger kids to say they are “elite.”


It’s immensely annoying.

But hey club national rankings for 2028 come out soon!

Plenty of primary age based sports. See ya.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse should be aged based until high school. But since many kids aren’t good enough to be “elite” - parents want to have them play younger kids to say they are “elite.”


It’s immensely annoying.

But hey club national rankings for 2028 come out soon!

Plenty of primary age based sports. See ya.

Keep on telling your little fella he isn’t good enough to roll with big dogs his age..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/26/21 12:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse should be aged based until high school. But since many kids aren’t good enough to be “elite” - parents want to have them play younger kids to say they are “elite.”


It’s immensely annoying.

But hey club national rankings for 2028 come out soon!

Plenty of primary age based sports. See ya.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse should be aged based until high school. But since many kids aren’t good enough to be “elite” - parents want to have them play younger kids to say they are “elite.”


It’s immensely annoying.

But hey club national rankings for 2028 come out soon!

Plenty of primary age based sports. See ya.

Keep on telling your little fella he isn’t good enough to roll with big dogs his age..

Ny Troll, I'll just keep telling my big fella to keep rolling your kid but he's probably deep on the bench.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/26/21 02:08 AM
How was the Madlax vs NL game?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/26/21 11:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was the Madlax vs NL game?

I thought the final score was 7 Madlax - 2 NL.

But the HOCO website has it 6-2.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/26/21 01:10 PM
Not sure if it really matters, but I had 7-2 as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/26/21 02:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse should be aged based until high school. But since many kids aren’t good enough to be “elite” - parents want to have them play younger kids to say they are “elite.”


It’s immensely annoying.

But hey club national rankings for 2028 come out soon!

Plenty of primary age based sports. See ya.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse should be aged based until high school. But since many kids aren’t good enough to be “elite” - parents want to have them play younger kids to say they are “elite.”


It’s immensely annoying.

But hey club national rankings for 2028 come out soon!

Plenty of primary age based sports. See ya.

Keep on telling your little fella he isn’t good enough to roll with big dogs his age..

Ny Troll, I'll just keep telling my big fella to keep rolling your kid but he's probably deep on the bench.

Lol this is the epitome of excuse making for kids who aren’t good enough. My kid is on age and is on a team in HoCo with plenty of holdbacks. The excuses the parents make are mind blowing.

I’ll just say the kids know the difference and are not impressed by the 15 month older kids. Again tell your 13 year old 2028 kid to just get better and try harder.

It’s the culture of entitled mediocrity that makes this acceptable around here.

But call it what you want
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/26/21 05:21 PM
Is the holdback issue actually all that bad at 2028 at this point? My sons team is in elite and I believe all but 2 would be on age for WSYL purposes and the two that wouldn’t are summer birthdays who have always played 2028. The reclass is usually later right? I know it’s bad for 2025 and 2026 but just curious if people know from their own team rather than just guessing is it a lot worse than a couple of summer birthdays. My son is a spring birthday on age so holdbacks annoy me too. I just wasn’t sure if it was widespread in 2028 yet.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/26/21 06:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the holdback issue actually all that bad at 2028 at this point? My sons team is in elite and I believe all but 2 would be on age for WSYL purposes and the two that wouldn’t are summer birthdays who have always played 2028. The reclass is usually later right? I know it’s bad for 2025 and 2026 but just curious if people know from their own team rather than just guessing is it a lot worse than a couple of summer birthdays. My son is a spring birthday on age so holdbacks annoy me too. I just wasn’t sure if it was widespread in 2028 yet.

Many of the private schools have a pre-first and those parents are usually pushing high level sports so it's common. I have seen several players that are holdbacks where it makes little diff. They also can end up being worse being held back early since they only need to work as hard as that age level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/26/21 09:33 PM
Next Level v True
Hawks v FCA
Madlax v BLC

Who ya got???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/26/21 10:10 PM
NL
Hawks
ML
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/27/21 01:30 AM
Enough....it's a grade-based league and by and large a grade-based system. If you don't like it, move to NY and play rec for your town team in the spring and then join a travel team in the summer and complain about all of the holdback teams in Baltimore and DC. Or have your kid play soccer, that's age-based. Either way, I don't care. I'm just sick of hearing you whine about the so-called 13 year old kids beating up on your 11 year old. I'm pretty sure if that's actually the case (and it's pretty rare), the parents didn't have lacrosse in mind when they decided to send their kid to pre-k.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/27/21 01:48 AM
Has Team MD only played 3 games? Is the HoCo website incorrect or did something happen?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/27/21 11:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough....it's a grade-based league and by and large a grade-based system. If you don't like it, move to NY and play rec for your town team in the spring and then join a travel team in the summer and complain about all of the holdback teams in Baltimore and DC. Or have your kid play soccer, that's age-based. Either way, I don't care. I'm just sick of hearing you whine about the so-called 13 year old kids beating up on your 11 year old. I'm pretty sure if that's actually the case (and it's pretty rare), the parents didn't have lacrosse in mind when they decided to send their kid to pre-k.


Thank you for entering the WSYL tournament. Leveling the playing field.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/27/21 02:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough....it's a grade-based league and by and large a grade-based system. If you don't like it, move to NY and play rec for your town team in the spring and then join a travel team in the summer and complain about all of the holdback teams in Baltimore and DC. Or have your kid play soccer, that's age-based. Either way, I don't care. I'm just sick of hearing you whine about the so-called 13 year old kids beating up on your 11 year old. I'm pretty sure if that's actually the case (and it's pretty rare), the parents didn't have lacrosse in mind when they decided to send their kid to pre-k.

Ironically all town leagues in NY are grade based. That's where it started
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/27/21 02:13 PM
Rosters are set....play ball. Not sure why so many of you care. If there are holdbacks, great for those families. Rise to the competition.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/27/21 02:22 PM
I’ve seen every single 2028 elite team play this year. Not a SINGLE player, from size alone, stands out or looks much different. There are certainly some players, by ability, that stand out amongst the rest. Are they holdbacks? No idea. Hawks and Madlax kids come to mind. The biggest kids I’ve seen are NL’s goalie, and the big attackman from the Hawks. And I’m fairly sure both those kids are only 10/11.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/27/21 02:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve seen every single 2028 elite team play this year. Not a SINGLE player, from size alone, stands out or looks much different. There are certainly some players, by ability, that stand out amongst the rest. Are they holdbacks? No idea. Hawks and Madlax kids come to mind. The biggest kids I’ve seen are NL’s goalie, and the big attackman from the Hawks. And I’m fairly sure both those kids are only 10/11.

I think you are proving the guys point - if your kid plays with younger kids - and still doesn’t stand out then....

But by in large I agree with you. Although Madlax has a kid who wears number forty something that is huge and looks like a teenager. No clue the age. Hawks definitely has a few.

holdbacks do influence the game, but not sure how much it matters in the grand scheme.

Parents of kids on age have a valid gripe. holdback are within the rules so what is there do really say?

The only thing I don’t get is what do the holdbacks in 5th grade do when the mass reclass happens in eighth grade? Do they drop back again and enter high school at 16?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/27/21 04:00 PM
Does Cab Maddox actually run the 2028 Madlax practices?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/27/21 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does Cab Maddox actually run the 2028 Madlax practices?

Yes
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/27/21 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve seen every single 2028 elite team play this year. Not a SINGLE player, from size alone, stands out or looks much different. There are certainly some players, by ability, that stand out amongst the rest. Are they holdbacks? No idea. Hawks and Madlax kids come to mind. The biggest kids I’ve seen are NL’s goalie, and the big attackman from the Hawks. And I’m fairly sure both those kids are only 10/11.

There is a kid on True, a defender who is huge, used to be relatively bigger but he’s still probably the biggest horse in the league.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/27/21 06:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve seen every single 2028 elite team play this year. Not a SINGLE player, from size alone, stands out or looks much different. There are certainly some players, by ability, that stand out amongst the rest. Are they holdbacks? No idea. Hawks and Madlax kids come to mind. The biggest kids I’ve seen are NL’s goalie, and the big attackman from the Hawks. And I’m fairly sure both those kids are only 10/11.

There is a kid on True, a defender who is huge, used to be relatively bigger but he’s still probably the biggest horse in the league.

Yes. Forgot about that kid. He’s on age too. Just TALL. That’s about it
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/27/21 08:28 PM
Just out of boredom,

Here’s the top teams by position in my opinion having seen all the teams at least once. (My son’s position group is obviously whichever of the rankings below you disagree with)

Attack
1. Hawks
2. FCA
3. Madlax
4. Crabs

Midfield:
1. Next Level
2. Madlax
3. Hawks
4. True

Poles
1. Madlax
2. Hawks
3. Next Level
4. True

Goalie:
1. Hawks
2. Madlax
3. FCA/ Crabs (first half goalie)

Face off
1. FCA
2. True
3. Hawks
4. Madlax
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/28/21 02:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just out of boredom,

Here’s the top teams by position in my opinion having seen all the teams at least once. (My son’s position group is obviously whichever of the rankings below you disagree with)

Attack
1. Hawks
2. FCA
3. Madlax
4. Crabs

Midfield:
1. Next Level
2. Madlax
3. Hawks
4. True

Poles
1. Madlax
2. Hawks
3. Next Level
4. True

Goalie:
1. Hawks
2. Madlax
3. FCA/ Crabs (first half goalie)

Face off
1. FCA
2. True
3. Hawks
4. Madlax


Not too bad actually. Having a hard time disagreeing with any of it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/28/21 01:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just out of boredom,

Here’s the top teams by position in my opinion having seen all the teams at least once. (My son’s position group is obviously whichever of the rankings below you disagree with)

Attack
1. Hawks
2. FCA
3. Madlax
4. Crabs

Midfield:
1. Next Level
2. Madlax
3. Hawks
4. True

Poles
1. Madlax
2. Hawks
3. Next Level
4. True

Goalie:
1. Hawks
2. Madlax
3. FCA/ Crabs (first half goalie)

Face off
1. FCA
2. True
3. Hawks
4. Madlax


Not too bad actually. Having a hard time disagreeing with any of it.



Agree also. You are certainly one astute parent.

I have really enjoyed this season because there are some really good lacrosse teams in 2028, a lot of parity, and will be a super competitive last 3-4 weeks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/28/21 02:45 PM
This is pretty good. What do you base this off of? Goals against don’t say that on the poles. I would evaluate the mid defense on some.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/29/21 12:58 PM
How many of you lax dads will be sticking around or showing up early to watch the Hawks/Madlax regular season finale next weekend (assuming both win this weekend)?

-asking for a friend
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 04/29/21 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many of you lax dads will be sticking around or showing up early to watch the Hawks/Madlax regular season finale next weekend (assuming both win this weekend)?

-asking for a friend


Well, if you’re into 5th grade lacrosse- probably the best two teams in the area, top 5 in the country
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/02/21 09:33 PM
Madlax put up 23 on pool old BLC? What a bunch of clowns.

Enjoy losing the league.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 01:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax put up 23 on pool old BLC? What a bunch of clowns.

Enjoy losing the league.

Did you actually watch the game?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 01:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax put up 23 on pool old BLC? What a bunch of clowns.

Enjoy losing the league.

They are playing for home field advantage smile
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 02:16 AM
Who exactly are you calling clowns? The kids??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 02:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax put up 23 on pool old BLC? What a bunch of clowns.

Enjoy losing the league.

Are you actually calling the kids clowns?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 02:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax put up 23 on pool old BLC? What a bunch of clowns.

Enjoy losing the league.

Did you actually watch the game?

A team put up 23 goals on a team without a win yet this season. I don't think anyone needs to see the game to know there was clearly a lack of sportsmanship.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 02:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax put up 23 on pool old BLC? What a bunch of clowns.

Enjoy losing the league.

Did you actually watch the game?
What happened? What could possibly have happened when one team wins by nearly 20?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 03:43 AM
The coaches are clowns. Can’t behave like that. Karma is a B.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 07:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The coaches are clowns. Can’t behave like that. Karma is a B.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The coaches are clowns. Can’t behave like that. Karma is a B.


This is disappointing but it’s Madlax - not exactly the classiest club around.

Large props to BLC but this season has to be a huge disappointment for the kids.

I hope hawks stomps madlax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 09:27 AM
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 11:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 11:46 AM
Agree. Disappointing and low class. Nobody’s blaming the kids, just the coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 12:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 02:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?

"Strike First, Strike Hard, No Mercy."
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?

"Strike First, Strike Hard, No Mercy."


I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that they are from the same backyard, and one is superior. Always nice to beat your local rivals or non-rival up when you can.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 02:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The coaches are clowns. Can’t behave like that. Karma is a B.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The coaches are clowns. Can’t behave like that. Karma is a B.


This is disappointing but it’s Madlax - not exactly the classiest club around.

Large props to BLC but this season has to be a huge disappointment for the kids.

I hope hawks stomps madlax.

Things have to have been bad for someone to root for the Hawks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?

"Strike First, Strike Hard, No Mercy."

We all know how that movie ended for those guys...

Anyway - does anyone know of if Cavs had a season at all?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 02:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?

Baseball has a slaughter rule at the rec level. Perhaps that sport is best suited for your daughter.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 04:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?


If you don't think the other clubs would hang 20+ on BLC or any other club in the division if they could, you are kidding yourself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 04:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?


If you don't think the other clubs would hang 20+ on BLC or any other club in the division if they could, you are kidding yourself.


I didn't see the game, just the score. Completely unnecessary and tasteless. The behavior wont change until the enablers stop stuffing his pockets. Enjoy the big W's now. Jokes on you. Your kid will be replaced soon enough by the shiny new version or whoever flys in for the weekends or tourneys. You probably have 2 years left.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 05:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax put up 23 on pool old BLC? What a bunch of clowns.

Enjoy losing the league.

Did you actually watch the game?
What happened? What could possibly have happened when one team wins by nearly 20?
Coaches behavior on the winning team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 05:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?

This is elite level lacrosse. Sometimes you win and sometimes you learn. BLC just learned that they should not be competing with the big dogs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 05:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?


If you don't think the other clubs would hang 20+ on BLC or any other club in the division if they could, you are kidding yourself.


I didn't see the game, just the score. Completely unnecessary and tasteless. The behavior wont change until the enablers stop stuffing his pockets. Enjoy the big W's now. Jokes on you. Your kid will be replaced soon enough by the shiny new version or whoever flys in for the weekends or tourneys. You probably have 2 years left.

Ok. Whatever you say bud.

Sorry, your kid couldn't make it with the big boys. But as they say....Hit the Wall. There's always next year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?

"Strike First, Strike Hard, No Mercy."

Yes Sensi
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?

This is elite level lacrosse. Sometimes you win and sometimes you learn. BLC just learned that they should not be competing with the big dogs.

Fair. We also learned that Madlax has some parents, and clearly coaches, who take out their insecurities and overall feelings of inferiority on 11 year olds.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 06:28 PM
I would say that virtually every team in the elite division plays games they could win by similar margins over the course of the year given that competition is uneven at many tournaments for this age. No other team but Madlax pumps the score much beyond 10. There are ways not to score. It’s not hard if you have any class.

Ultimately, people condoning this deserve Cabel. There are probably only 4 or 5 kids on the current Madlax team that will be there when in the recruiting years. So I guess the joke is ultimately on them, but what a classless group of parents.

BLC kept this division going unlike Cavs and the others that bailed, which makes this particularly bad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?

This is elite level lacrosse. Sometimes you win and sometimes you learn. BLC just learned that they should not be competing with the big dogs.

Fair. We also learned that Madlax has some parents, and clearly coaches, who take out their insecurities and overall feelings of inferiority on 11 year olds.

What we also learned is that there are some parents that would rather give out participation trophies.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 06:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax.

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?

This is elite level lacrosse. Sometimes you win and sometimes you learn. BLC just learned that they should not be competing with the big dogs.

Fair. We also learned that Madlax has some parents, and clearly coaches, who take out their insecurities and overall feelings of inferiority on 11 year olds.

What we also learned is that there are some parents that would rather give out participation trophies.

I guess that's to be expected. Good luck to your children the rest of the season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 07:41 PM
Is cavs playing lacrosse anywhere?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 11:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is cavs playing lacrosse anywhere?

I believe BLC has a few of them playing with them this season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/03/21 11:25 PM
This latest thread is classic BOTC. If your kid doesn't play for BLC, what do you care? And if he does, you should either find a different club or have him start hitting the wall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/04/21 12:24 AM
For this weekend

Hawks by 8
FCA by 8
Crabs by 1
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/04/21 01:14 AM
So.. riddle me this... Madlax and Hawks are both undefeated. They play this Sunday.... for a 7-0 regular season record and the #1 seed in the playoffs. lost will get BLC, a sure win.

So is it better to play against BLC or get the bye and not play for two whole weeks.

Thoughts?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/04/21 02:56 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?

This is elite level lacrosse. Sometimes you win and sometimes you learn. BLC just learned that they should not be competing with the big dogs.

Fair. We also learned that Madlax has some parents, and clearly coaches, who take out their insecurities and overall feelings of inferiority on 11 year olds.

What we also learned is that there are some parents that would rather give out participation trophies.

OUCH !!! Thats gotta hurt.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/04/21 12:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So.. riddle me this... Madlax and Hawks are both undefeated. They play this Sunday.... for a 7-0 regular season record and the #1 seed in the playoffs. lost will get BLC, a sure win.

So is it better to play against BLC or get the bye and not play for two whole weeks.

Thoughts?
Keep playing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/04/21 12:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?

This is elite level lacrosse. Sometimes you win and sometimes you learn. BLC just learned that they should not be competing with the big dogs.

Fair. We also learned that Madlax has some parents, and clearly coaches, who take out their insecurities and overall feelings of inferiority on 11 year olds.

What we also learned is that there are some parents that would rather give out participation trophies.

OUCH !!! Thats gotta hurt.

Probably not, somehow I doubt BLC parents are on here complaining. I give BLC credit, they wanted to be in AAA as did True KP, HLC and the Cavs but they still stuck it out.

This will get settled on the field so we’ll see if MadLax is as good as their goal differential says or if the Hawks have something for them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/04/21 02:13 PM
Hawks will beat ML and it will not be close!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/04/21 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Putting up 20 plus goals on a winless team is uncalled for and a complete lack of sportsmanship. Completely on brand for Cabel and Madlax

This is the Elite division. Not rec.

Madlax had their poles playing offense in 3rd and 4th qtr. Had attackmen playing D.

Had boys taking face offs that never taken face offs before.

Did the score get out of hand? Yes

But still need to play the game out.

It’s 5th grade, completely unnecessary. Kids play the game, coaches let this happen and parents enable it by writing the checks. Sportsmanship is taught at this age, what example were you trying to teach?

This is elite level lacrosse. Sometimes you win and sometimes you learn. BLC just learned that they should not be competing with the big dogs.

Fair. We also learned that Madlax has some parents, and clearly coaches, who take out their insecurities and overall feelings of inferiority on 11 year olds.

What we also learned is that there are some parents that would rather give out participation trophies.

OUCH !!! Thats gotta hurt.

Probably not, somehow I doubt BLC parents are on here complaining. I give BLC credit, they wanted to be in AAA as did True KP, HLC and the Cavs but they still stuck it out.

This will get settled on the field so we’ll see if MadLax is as good as their goal differential says or if the Hawks have something for them.

Probably a good reason why they dropped 24 on BLC. Help with that goal differential— which means nothing at all because they are going to settle it on the field
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/05/21 01:05 AM
How’d this prediction work out for ya?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/05/21 01:55 AM
Sometimes you’re the bug, and sometimes you’re the windshield. BLC was the bug this past Sunday. Frankly, so where the Crabs (16-2), FCA (12-5), Next Level (7-2), and True (9-5) against Madlax. No one has given Madlax a game yet. Not even close. Duke beat High Point something like 27-7 this year. Must have been bad parenting again in that one.

The Madlax/Hawks game will be a great contest. Hawks went from an average B team to a stellar team during Covid, and how they did it— drop downs from 2027, recruited from other teams— does not matter. The best kids want to play for the best teams. Hawks are one of them.

Note: Madlax hasn’t lost a HoCo game since 2018 when they were 2nd graders playing up, not down, an age group. In 2019, they gave up 13 goals— All Season. These two teams are two of the best in the nation in 2028 (for what it’s worth, Madlax has been soundly beating the LI teams every time out- Legacy 3-4x, Rebels, but have never played LI Express. Likely to happen in MA or PA this summer).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/05/21 02:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sometimes you’re the bug, and sometimes you’re the windshield. BLC was the bug this past Sunday. Frankly, so where the Crabs (16-2), FCA (12-5), Next Level (7-2), and True (9-5) against Madlax. No one has given Madlax a game yet. Not even close. Duke beat High Point something like 27-7 this year. Must have been bad parenting again in that one.

The Madlax/Hawks game will be a great contest. Hawks went from an average B team to a stellar team during Covid, and how they did it— drop downs from 2027, recruited from other teams— does not matter. The best kids want to play for the best teams. Hawks are one of them.

Note: Madlax hasn’t lost a HoCo game since 2018 when they were 2nd graders playing up, not down, an age group. In 2019, they gave up 13 goals— All Season. These two teams are two of the best in the nation in 2028 (for what it’s worth, Madlax has been soundly beating the LI teams every time out- Legacy 3-4x, Rebels, but have never played LI Express. Likely to happen in MA or PA this summer).


Didn’t Madlax play LI Express at DE turf in March? I know the Hawks beat them fairly Soundly.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/05/21 02:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sometimes you’re the bug, and sometimes you’re the windshield. BLC was the bug this past Sunday. Frankly, so where the Crabs (16-2), FCA (12-5), Next Level (7-2), and True (9-5) against Madlax. No one has given Madlax a game yet. Not even close. Duke beat High Point something like 27-7 this year. Must have been bad parenting again in that one.

The Madlax/Hawks game will be a great contest. Hawks went from an average B team to a stellar team during Covid, and how they did it— drop downs from 2027, recruited from other teams— does not matter. The best kids want to play for the best teams. Hawks are one of them.

Note: Madlax hasn’t lost a HoCo game since 2018 when they were 2nd graders playing up, not down, an age group. In 2019, they gave up 13 goals— All Season. These two teams are two of the best in the nation in 2028 (for what it’s worth, Madlax has been soundly beating the LI teams every time out- Legacy 3-4x, Rebels, but have never played LI Express. Likely to happen in MA or PA this summer).

Comparing 5th grade lacrosse to Duke-High Point is almost as ridiculous as you touting what kids did when they were 7 years old. Your only accomplishment is somehow getting largely disinterested adults to root for the group of little kids wearing Hawks jerseys this Sunday. What a joke.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/05/21 04:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sometimes you’re the bug, and sometimes you’re the windshield. BLC was the bug this past Sunday. Frankly, so where the Crabs (16-2), FCA (12-5), Next Level (7-2), and True (9-5) against Madlax. No one has given Madlax a game yet. Not even close. Duke beat High Point something like 27-7 this year. Must have been bad parenting again in that one.

The Madlax/Hawks game will be a great contest. Hawks went from an average B team to a stellar team during Covid, and how they did it— drop downs from 2027, recruited from other teams— does not matter. The best kids want to play for the best teams. Hawks are one of them.

Note: Madlax hasn’t lost a HoCo game since 2018 when they were 2nd graders playing up, not down, an age group. In 2019, they gave up 13 goals— All Season. These two teams are two of the best in the nation in 2028 (for what it’s worth, Madlax has been soundly beating the LI teams every time out- Legacy 3-4x, Rebels, but have never played LI Express. Likely to happen in MA or PA this summer).

This Madlax dad thinks fifth grade lacrosse is just like Division I lacrosse. Great insight. I was worried people wouldn’t be able to come up with anything dumber than the previous posts on this forum. But this guy did it. He is the champion of all dads living vicariously through their kids. No one can touch him. Sometimes people are the bug and other times they are overweight adults leaving through their kids that play for a fifth grade lacrosse team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/05/21 05:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sometimes you’re the bug, and sometimes you’re the windshield. BLC was the bug this past Sunday. Frankly, so where the Crabs (16-2), FCA (12-5), Next Level (7-2), and True (9-5) against Madlax. No one has given Madlax a game yet. Not even close. Duke beat High Point something like 27-7 this year. Must have been bad parenting again in that one.

The Madlax/Hawks game will be a great contest. Hawks went from an average B team to a stellar team during Covid, and how they did it— drop downs from 2027, recruited from other teams— does not matter. The best kids want to play for the best teams. Hawks are one of them.

Note: Madlax hasn’t lost a HoCo game since 2018 when they were 2nd graders playing up, not down, an age group. In 2019, they gave up 13 goals— All Season. These two teams are two of the best in the nation in 2028 (for what it’s worth, Madlax has been soundly beating the LI teams every time out- Legacy 3-4x, Rebels, but have never played LI Express. Likely to happen in MA or PA this summer).

Ladies and gentlemen a post from the one and only Madlax goalie dad! Might want to avoid adding details that make it obvious, big guy. You realize even the parents on your own team laugh at you, right?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/05/21 11:35 AM
I can already predict what the lost will say on Sunday...."result doesn't matter, it wasn't for the championship" or, "we rested our best guys to see the other team's set plays" or, "weather was a huge factor....we never play well in the rain".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/05/21 12:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sometimes you’re the bug, and sometimes you’re the windshield. BLC was the bug this past Sunday. Frankly, so where the Crabs (16-2), FCA (12-5), Next Level (7-2), and True (9-5) against Madlax. No one has given Madlax a game yet. Not even close. Duke beat High Point something like 27-7 this year. Must have been bad parenting again in that one.

The Madlax/Hawks game will be a great contest. Hawks went from an average B team to a stellar team during Covid, and how they did it— drop downs from 2027, recruited from other teams— does not matter. The best kids want to play for the best teams. Hawks are one of them.

Note: Madlax hasn’t lost a HoCo game since 2018 when they were 2nd graders playing up, not down, an age group. In 2019, they gave up 13 goals— All Season. These two teams are two of the best in the nation in 2028 (for what it’s worth, Madlax has been soundly beating the LI teams every time out- Legacy 3-4x, Rebels, but have never played LI Express. Likely to happen in MA or PA this summer).

Ladies and gentlemen a post from the one and only Madlax goalie dad! Might want to avoid adding details that make it obvious, big guy. You realize even the parents on your own team laugh at you, right?

Love some internal Madlax strife!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/05/21 12:32 PM
I think that was True that played them...True beat them by a few goals..not sure about ML
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/05/21 12:55 PM
Or just bad parenting. They’re “Jokes!” 😂
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/05/21 01:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sometimes you’re the bug, and sometimes you’re the windshield. BLC was the bug this past Sunday. Frankly, so where the Crabs (16-2), FCA (12-5), Next Level (7-2), and True (9-5) against Madlax. No one has given Madlax a game yet. Not even close. Duke beat High Point something like 27-7 this year. Must have been bad parenting again in that one.

The Madlax/Hawks game will be a great contest. Hawks went from an average B team to a stellar team during Covid, and how they did it— drop downs from 2027, recruited from other teams— does not matter. The best kids want to play for the best teams. Hawks are one of them.

Note: Madlax hasn’t lost a HoCo game since 2018 when they were 2nd graders playing up, not down, an age group. In 2019, they gave up 13 goals— All Season. These two teams are two of the best in the nation in 2028 (for what it’s worth, Madlax has been soundly beating the LI teams every time out- Legacy 3-4x, Rebels, but have never played LI Express. Likely to happen in MA or PA this summer).

Comparing 5th grade lacrosse to Duke-High Point is almost as ridiculous as you touting what kids did when they were 7 years old. Your only accomplishment is somehow getting largely disinterested adults to root for the group of little kids wearing Hawks jerseys this Sunday. What a joke.

Except they weren’t 7 years old - madlax parents start the holdback.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/07/21 02:08 PM
Prediction thread- Mothers Day Lacrosse!


FCA 13- BLC 4

True 11- Crabs 6

Hawks 8- Madlax 7
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/07/21 04:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Prediction thread- Mothers Day Lacrosse!


FCA 13- BLC 4

True 11- Crabs 6

Hawks 8- Madlax 7

FCA 14 BLC 3
True 8 Crabs 7
Hawks - windshield; Madlax - bug
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/07/21 05:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Prediction thread- Mothers Day Lacrosse!


FCA 13- BLC 4

True 11- Crabs 6

Hawks 8- Madlax 7

FCA 14 BLC 3
True 8 Crabs 7
Hawks - windshield; Madlax - bug


Thanks Hawks dad
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/07/21 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Prediction thread- Mothers Day Lacrosse!


FCA 13- BLC 4

True 11- Crabs 6

Hawks 8- Madlax 7

FCA 14 BLC 3
True 8 Crabs 7
Hawks - windshield; Madlax - bug


Thanks Hawks dad

Pretty funny but No chance. There are not a whole lot of folks cheering for Cab and his parent enablers. That is saying something considering their opponent.
That being said, hawks-ml is a pickem. FCA by 5, True by 3.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/07/21 07:06 PM
New to the thread, dropping in from 2027.
Agree that running up 20+ goals is not right.
But don't blame the MadLax parents
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/07/21 08:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New to the thread, dropping in from 2027.
Agree that running up 20+ goals is not right.
But don't blame the MadLax parents


Quit telling us what to do!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/07/21 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Prediction thread- Mothers Day Lacrosse!


FCA 13- BLC 4

True 11- Crabs 6

Hawks 8- Madlax 7

FCA 14 BLC 3
True 8 Crabs 7
Hawks - windshield; Madlax - bug


Thanks Hawks dad

Pretty funny but No chance. There are not a whole lot of folks cheering for Cab and his parent enablers. That is saying something considering their opponent.
That being said, hawks-ml is a pickem. FCA by 5, True by 3.

Other than running up the score in one game (or two games, if you count 16-2 over Crabs) what has MadLax done to make everybody in 2028 mad at them them? It seems to me that they have been fairly scandal free lately, especially in this age bracket.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/07/21 09:31 PM
They detest Madlax because they are GOOD. They detest the coach.

I actually think they have cool social media stuff and attract good players.

They’ll start to Hawks at this age group in two weeks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/07/21 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Prediction thread- Mothers Day Lacrosse!


FCA 13- BLC 4

True 11- Crabs 6

Hawks 8- Madlax 7

FCA 14 BLC 3
True 8 Crabs 7
Hawks - windshield; Madlax - bug


Thanks Hawks dad

Pretty funny but No chance. There are not a whole lot of folks cheering for Cab and his parent enablers. That is saying something considering their opponent.
That being said, hawks-ml is a pickem. FCA by 5, True by 3.

Other than running up the score in one game (or two games, if you count 16-2 over Crabs) what has MadLax done to make everybody in 2028 mad at them them? It seems to me that they have been fairly scandal free lately, especially in this age bracket.

The context of the BLC game was that 3 others teams bailed from Elite the first and second weeks of the season, but BLC stuck it out and played hard even when getting beat every weak. So a lot of people respected what BLC did this year. To hang 24 goals on a team like that is like picking on a less strong kid at the playground for no good reason. Then a bunch of Cab enabler Madlax parents on here defended the running up of the score in an obnoxious way.

I don’t think anyone cared about the Crabs score. Crabs are a pretty good club and just played poorly that day. But beating down BLC like that is different and makes Madlax parents look bad for defending it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/09/21 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sometimes you’re the bug, and sometimes you’re the windshield. BLC was the bug this past Sunday. Frankly, so where the Crabs (16-2), FCA (12-5), Next Level (7-2), and True (9-5) against Madlax. No one has given Madlax a game yet. Not even close. Duke beat High Point something like 27-7 this year. Must have been bad parenting again in that one.

The Madlax/Hawks game will be a great contest. Hawks went from an average B team to a stellar team during Covid, and how they did it— drop downs from 2027, recruited from other teams— does not matter. The best kids want to play for the best teams. Hawks are one of them.

Note: Madlax hasn’t lost a HoCo game since 2018 when they were 2nd graders playing up, not down, an age group. In 2019, they gave up 13 goals— All Season. These two teams are two of the best in the nation in 2028 (for what it’s worth, Madlax has been soundly beating the LI teams every time out- Legacy 3-4x, Rebels, but have never played LI Express. Likely to happen in MA or PA this summer).

So I we boil that down, they’d won one hoco championship since 2nd grade? So what, pound your chest over it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/09/21 08:40 PM
Don’t think anyone was defending the score— the Madlax parent was using the Duke analogy to point out that it’s NOT on the parents, it’s not their responsibility, and may have just taken offense to the “clown” statements hurled at them for the lopsided score. Are the Duke parents clowns because their kids ran it up against High Point? No more than the Madlax parents. You dopes missed the analogy. Don’t think anyone defended the score, but rather, defended absurd statements that the parents should pull their kids off of the team (as opposed to “condoning it” as one BLC parent said) when they beat someone 23-4.

As it is, they lost to the Hawks today, so the world of 5th grade lacrosse is back on its axis.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/09/21 10:06 PM
Madlax v Hawks game was big boy lacrosse today. Lots of fun to watch. Both teams have some real talented players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/09/21 10:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax v Hawks game was big boy lacrosse today. Lots of fun to watch. Both teams have some real talented players
That’s because you were watching 27s
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/09/21 11:36 PM
Do not assume there are any BLC parents on here criticizing what ML did. We are big boys.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 12:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax v Hawks game was big boy lacrosse today. Lots of fun to watch. Both teams have some real talented players
That’s because you were watching 27s

I guess I follow your bad joke, but it’s not really correct... my point was that it was really good lacrosse
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 12:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Madlax v Hawks game was big boy lacrosse today. Lots of fun to watch. Both teams have some real talented players

Agreed. Great lacrosse from both teams. They'll see each other a lot in the years ahead.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 02:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New to the thread, dropping in from 2027.
Agree that running up 20+ goals is not right.
But don't blame the MadLax parents

Thanks MadLax holdback dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 03:01 AM
If we made an all star team, would beat every team in the country by 40. Just saying...Congrats on the undefeated season Hawks. Very impressive!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 03:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Madlax v Hawks game was big boy lacrosse today. Lots of fun to watch. Both teams have some real talented players

Agreed. Great lacrosse from both teams. They'll see each other a lot in the years ahead.


Parents even behaved for the most part!

Good lacrosse from both squads. Well
Coached. Happy Mother’s Day
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 12:20 PM
Passing of the torch in the 28 division??

I don’t think the Hawks will travel to Florida to win a bootleg national championship, so you’ll always have that going for ya!

Madlax coach has the most dreadfully annoying voice I’ve ever heard. Zero understanding on how people flock to that guy.

Congrats to the Crabs getting in the win column versus a good True team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 01:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Passing of the torch in the 28 division??

I don’t think the Hawks will travel to Florida to win a bootleg national championship, so you’ll always have that going for ya!

Madlax coach has the most dreadfully annoying voice I’ve ever heard. Zero understanding on how people flock to that guy.

Congrats to the Crabs getting in the win column versus a good True team

Crabs are a good team but they are thin, or just don’t play enough players. IIRC they had the lead against Hawks and maybe NL at halftime. That True team is very solid, great win.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 01:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Passing of the torch in the 28 division??

I don’t think the Hawks will travel to Florida to win a bootleg national championship, so you’ll always have that going for ya!

Madlax coach has the most dreadfully annoying voice I’ve ever heard. Zero understanding on how people flock to that guy.

Congrats to the Crabs getting in the win column versus a good True team

He puts the “mad” in MadLax in more than one way. Guy was not a positive force. To each his own though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 01:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Passing of the torch in the 28 division??

I don’t think the Hawks will travel to Florida to win a bootleg national championship, so you’ll always have that going for ya!

Madlax coach has the most dreadfully annoying voice I’ve ever heard. Zero understanding on how people flock to that guy.

Congrats to the Crabs getting in the win column versus a good True team

He puts the “mad” in MadLax in more than one way. Guy was not a positive force. To each his own though.

Yeah— he does not put out good vibes. For his own team particularly.

Playoffs should be interesting!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 02:27 PM
Madlax parent here. Hawks 28s are a great team. We saw that last summer in Hershey when we barely beat them, and then they gave us the business in DE before HOCO and then again yesterday. Continual improvement. Strong, well-coached kids with skills with unreal F/O and goalie-game. Congratulations to them.


Pretty aggressive commentary from ppl re 5th grade kids, coaches and parents. I honestly could give a rat's butt what the opposing coach(s), fans or kids say. Oh, the coach yells (show me one lax coach that doesn't), the parents are loud (again, show me that parent at a lax game who doesn't cheer), Madlax is expensive.......blah, blah, blah. Not sure why anybody on an opposing team would care. My guess is you are seeing what you want to see and should probably take a long gander in the mirror.

Re all the other banter from ppl who assume they know something about the 28s....they are essentially the same team (90% of the kids) since they were in clinics when they were 6/7. Thus, you have seen them for a long time. Re holdbacks. We have 1, and he's been on the team for a # of years. We also have a couple of 4th graders and several who just turned 11 who have been on the team since the beginning. There you have it. If you don't like the lacrosse rules of grad year vs. birth year then take it up with your club and stop using it as an excuse to make yourself feel better.

Looking forward to the playoffs, and if we lose we lose, but at least we knocked Next Level around because TBH, that's all we really care about anyway. Cheers!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 02:55 PM
Playoffs should have should some good matchups.

Madlax is obviously likely to be beat BLC. But NL-FCA and True-Crabs should both be close. Seems like a coin flip for both games.

Then in the semi-finals if NL happens to get by FCA, the NL-Hawks matchup could be interesting. NL probably turns the ball over too much in game against a team like Hawks that possesses the ball so well, but if NL’s midfield gets hot, could be a good game. Hawks-FCA matchup also could be interesting if FCA attack plays really well, though I don’t think they have the poles to hang with Hawks for a full game.

In the other semi-final, seems like Madlax gets by either True or Crabs pretty easily. So Madlax may have the easier path to the finals even though they lost this weekend. FCA and NL are both inconsistent but I think have higher ceilings than True or Crabs and are more likely to pull off an upset, though Hawks would obviously be favored in either matchup based on the results this spring.

Should be fun to watch. Good luck to everyone. Has been fun to see lacrosse this spring!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax parent here. Hawks 28s are a great team. We saw that last summer in Hershey when we barely beat them, and then they gave us the business in DE before HOCO and then again yesterday. Continual improvement. Strong, well-coached kids with skills with unreal F/O and goalie-game. Congratulations to them.


Pretty aggressive commentary from ppl re 5th grade kids, coaches and parents. I honestly could give a rat's butt what the opposing coach(s), fans or kids say. Oh, the coach yells (show me one lax coach that doesn't), the parents are loud (again, show me that parent at a lax game who doesn't cheer), Madlax is expensive.......blah, blah, blah. Not sure why anybody on an opposing team would care. My guess is you are seeing what you want to see and should probably take a long gander in the mirror.

Re all the other banter from ppl who assume they know something about the 28s....they are essentially the same team (90% of the kids) since they were in clinics when they were 6/7. Thus, you have seen them for a long time. Re holdbacks. We have 1, and he's been on the team for a # of years. We also have a couple of 4th graders and several who just turned 11 who have been on the team since the beginning. There you have it. If you don't like the lacrosse rules of grad year vs. birth year then take it up with your club and stop using it as an excuse to make yourself feel better.

Looking forward to the playoffs, and if we lose we lose, but at least we knocked Next Level around because TBH, that's all we really care about anyway. Cheers!

Just reading through it, looks like some parents from Crabs or somebody else trolling, really. Not Madlax or hawks parents. Who knows though, it’s all anonymous. It’s actually nice to have several top teams and create some elite completion and parity. Playoffs should be great
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/10/21 09:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax parent here. Hawks 28s are a great team. We saw that last summer in Hershey when we barely beat them, and then they gave us the business in DE before HOCO and then again yesterday. Continual improvement. Strong, well-coached kids with skills with unreal F/O and goalie-game. Congratulations to them.


Pretty aggressive commentary from ppl re 5th grade kids, coaches and parents. I honestly could give a rat's butt what the opposing coach(s), fans or kids say. Oh, the coach yells (show me one lax coach that doesn't), the parents are loud (again, show me that parent at a lax game who doesn't cheer), Madlax is expensive.......blah, blah, blah. Not sure why anybody on an opposing team would care. My guess is you are seeing what you want to see and should probably take a long gander in the mirror.

Re all the other banter from ppl who assume they know something about the 28s....they are essentially the same team (90% of the kids) since they were in clinics when they were 6/7. Thus, you have seen them for a long time. Re holdbacks. We have 1, and he's been on the team for a # of years. We also have a couple of 4th graders and several who just turned 11 who have been on the team since the beginning. There you have it. If you don't like the lacrosse rules of grad year vs. birth year then take it up with your club and stop using it as an excuse to make yourself feel better.

Looking forward to the playoffs, and if we lose we lose, but at least we knocked Next Level around because TBH, that's all we really care about anyway. Cheers!

Hawk parent here, I’ll say the ML parents we spoke to were great. The coach is a little over the top, but I understand that’s in the eye of the beholder. It was a great game, but we’re used to that, the teams in the league are great. Best of luck moving forward, I’m sure they will play again soon.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/11/21 05:29 PM
Anyone have the playoff schedule?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/12/21 04:04 PM
Thursday:
FCA Blue v NL: great matchup, now or never for NL, I think they win by 2
True v Crabs: bounceback for True after a solid Crabs Win. True by 3
ML v BLC: windshield bowl, ML by 9
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/12/21 04:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thursday:
FCA Blue v NL: great matchup, now or never for NL, I think they win by 2
True v Crabs: bounceback for True after a solid Crabs Win. True by 3
ML v BLC: windshield bowl, ML by 9

Thanks for sharing, the first two should be great games. Let’s hope ML doesn’t feel the need to run it up on BLC.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/12/21 06:20 PM
Quarters:
FCA vs Next Level - Next Level by 1
True vs Crabs - Crabs by 1
Madlax vs BLC - Madlax by 20

Semis:
Hawks vs Next Level - Hawks by 4
Madlax vs Crabs - Madlax by 7

Finals
Hawks vs Madlax - Hawks by 2
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/12/21 07:09 PM
NL takes the championship providing fodder for this message board to argue about the rankings of the teams all summer long. Really the best case scenario.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/13/21 12:44 AM
BLC parent here again. Let’s just play ball. We don’t care about the score.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/13/21 12:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BLC parent here again. Let’s just play ball. We don’t care about the score.
This. Just play lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/13/21 12:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BLC parent here again. Let’s just play ball. We don’t care about the score.

LIKE ^^^^^^^
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/13/21 09:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BLC parent here again. Let’s just play ball. We don’t care about the score.


^^* yet another reason that I have respect for BLC. Not only did they man up and play in this division, they also don’t care about the scores. Kudos to the boys and their parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 02:15 AM
Anybody know what happened in the games tonight?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 02:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BLC parent here again. Let’s just play ball. We don’t care about the score.

Simmer down, Let the big boys play to win. All about the W !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 02:57 AM
Tonight’s score

11-2 FCA
5-4 Crabs
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 03:07 AM
Hawks v FCA

Madlax v Crabs


Blue bloods, full of future blue chippers

Good luck everyone!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 03:12 AM
FCA won big over NL
Crabs got True by 1
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 03:13 AM
11-2 FCA
5-4 crabs
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 03:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody know what happened in the games tonight?

FCA won big over NL
Crabs got by True by 1
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 03:31 AM
FCA 11-2 over NL
Crabs 5-4 over True
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 12:39 PM
Dangggg what happened to next level??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dangggg what happened to next level??

Seriously, they were the, or one of the strongest teams going into the spring. They only lost to Hawks by 2 in the first week.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 04:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dangggg what happened to next level??

Seriously, they were the, or one of the strongest teams going into the spring. They only lost to Hawks by 2 in the first week.


Yeah. Tough season for them. Summer may be different. Was very surprised to see True lose also. I’m sure their best player or two will tryout for the Hawks this summer.

Can Crabs pull an upset? Very very unlikely. Madlax blew them out earlier in the season
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 08:39 PM
Madlax 15-1 over BLC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/14/21 09:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dangggg what happened to next level??

Seriously, they were the, or one of the strongest teams going into the spring. They only lost to Hawks by 2 in the first week.


Yeah. Tough season for them. Summer may be different. Was very surprised to see True lose also. I’m sure their best player or two will tryout for the Hawks this summer.

Can Crabs pull an upset? Very very unlikely. Madlax blew them out earlier in the season

Crabs take them by at least 4-5. New team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/15/21 01:19 AM
What do you mean new team? They just played last month and got killed by ML.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/15/21 03:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you mean new team? They just played last month and got killed by ML.

Nervous, I see. Surprises coming at you
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/16/21 01:07 AM
Weird games, how could FCA beat NL by 9 and lose to the Hawks by a similar margin. ML rolls in, rematch time.

Pretty good lacrosse today.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/16/21 01:13 AM
"Crabs take them by at least 4-5". Just a tad off. Afraid they're not all that different of a team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/16/21 06:40 PM
Congrats to the Hawks!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/16/21 08:55 PM
The Madlax club and organization should be completely embarrassed. One of their players took a realllly bad cheap shot on the Hawks f/o kid. #47 Made an inappropriate hand gesture on the way to the penalty box. Word is the Fogo prob broke his arm on the play. #47 is a punk.

Your coach is an an embarrassment to youth sports, inspires NOBODY, and there would be Zero chance my kid would play for him. The cursing and incessant screaming on the sideline is something else... a Cisco of him would go completely viral on the internet.

Congrats to the Hawks for a 3rd straight win against Madlax. New #1 team in country? most definitely.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/16/21 09:06 PM
Congratulations to the Annapolis Hawks. Nothing bette than seeing Madlax take another loss. This one was really bad for them
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/16/21 11:07 PM
Congratulations to the Hawks. Solid team, great athletes, and good coaching. My son said there was no bad blood out there and saw multiple kids around him fist bump each other at the end of the game.

As for this guy calling out a player's#, he must be the drunk (or medicated dad) dropping eff bombs to all the madlax parents who didn't even know what the heck he was talking about. Getting up into their personal space from behind. Legit creepy. In fact, there was a train of Hawks parents walking down the line after saying "don't listen to that guy cuz he's a clown."

Nobody wants a 5th graders to get hurt. As for the hand gesture...I didn't see it. Doesn't sound like him....so it's probably the booze talking.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 12:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Madlax club and organization should be completely embarrassed. One of their players took a realllly bad cheap shot on the Hawks f/o kid. #47 Made an inappropriate hand gesture on the way to the penalty box. Word is the Fogo prob broke his arm on the play. #47 is a punk.

Your coach is an an embarrassment to youth sports, inspires NOBODY, and there would be Zero chance my kid would play for him. The cursing and incessant screaming on the sideline is something else... a Cisco of him would go completely viral on the internet.

Congrats to the Hawks for a 3rd straight win against Madlax. New #1 team in country? most definitely.

That team will fall apart, who would want to play for a loon like that? The guy was screaming at his players all game long. Full psycho mode! And no its not “just a coach who yells”, not all coaches have deadspin articles about their behavior! If you’re unaware, look that one up. Apparently nothing has changed since 2013! The Hawks kid was laying on the ground with a broken arm and the coach is yelling about a flag, the ML parents were just as bad. Pure class!

It was 10-3 in the first half when that happened, no excuse, the game was already over.

There are plenty of great teams around, why play with and for an a hole like that? Prediction time... Crabs, True and FCA will all be better than them within the year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 12:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Madlax club and organization should be completely embarrassed. One of their players took a realllly bad cheap shot on the Hawks f/o kid. #47 Made an inappropriate hand gesture on the way to the penalty box. Word is the Fogo prob broke his arm on the play. #47 is a punk.

Your coach is an an embarrassment to youth sports, inspires NOBODY, and there would be Zero chance my kid would play for him. The cursing and incessant screaming on the sideline is something else... a Cisco of him would go completely viral on the internet.

Congrats to the Hawks for a 3rd straight win against Madlax. New #1 team in country? most definitely.

Madlax was frustrated and their coaching made it 10x worse leading to 10yr old breaking his arm. ML parents, your kids and team are incredibly talented and they play with heart but they would be better off playing for any other coach. Hearing how he talks to them in game is abusive, don’t tolerate it. Hawks fogo has a broken arm btw and will miss time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 12:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Madlax club and organization should be completely embarrassed. One of their players took a realllly bad cheap shot on the Hawks f/o kid. #47 Made an inappropriate hand gesture on the way to the penalty box. Word is the Fogo prob broke his arm on the play. #47 is a punk.

Your coach is an an embarrassment to youth sports, inspires NOBODY, and there would be Zero chance my kid would play for him. The cursing and incessant screaming on the sideline is something else... a Cisco of him would go completely viral on the internet.

Congrats to the Hawks for a 3rd straight win against Madlax. New #1 team in country? most definitely.

If you can’t beat em... cheap shot em. I think if I ever see them again I’m going to set up a game video just pointed at that guy and post it on YouTube. No commentary, just let the viewers decide for themselves.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 12:59 AM
The broken arm topic is an interesting one coming from the Hawks dad because ML's FO guy got his wrist broken last year vs the Hawks at Covid-Hershey. Unfortunate, but it happens in the sport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 01:17 AM
Nobody likes seeing a kid get hurt, certainly not 11 year olds. Can’t imagine the Hawks parents were thrilled to see the Madlax middie have his arm broken at Hershey by a Hawks defender last summer on a wicked slash — the kid was out till fall. Same game, the Hawks goalie got ejected for head butting a kid. Full on head butt, nothing close to a lacrosse play. Thrown out of the game. After a kid who had clearly never played goalie before came in, the Madlax coaches told them to let their goalie back in the game.

Good spirited rivalry between these two teams, both very talented, but seems to be a lot of animosity from the Hawks parents on here, or maybe it’s just one in particular. Whether towards Madlax coach or Madlax parents. Either way, it’s misguided. Zero trash talking from Madlax parents last couple years when ML was smoking the Hawks— and certainly not the last two weeks when they were losing decidedly. Hawks have loaded up with some good new talent, goalie is phenomenal. Once the face offs even out, these games will go either way.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 01:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to the Hawks. Solid team, great athletes, and good coaching. My son said there was no bad blood out there and saw multiple kids around him fist bump each other at the end of the game.

As for this guy calling out a player's#, he must be the drunk (or medicated dad) dropping eff bombs to all the madlax parents who didn't even know what the heck he was talking about. Getting up into their personal space from behind. Legit creepy. In fact, there was a train of Hawks parents walking down the line after saying "don't listen to that guy cuz he's a clown."

Nobody wants a 5th graders to get hurt. As for the hand gesture...I didn't see it. Doesn't sound like him....so it's probably the booze talking.

Your coach claimed a Hawk was faking an injury last game...

I know, the truth about your parents, coaches and players must hurt, but not as bad as the hits to your over inflated egos.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 01:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The broken arm topic is an interesting one coming from the Hawks dad because ML's FO guy got his wrist broken last year vs the Hawks at Covid-Hershey. Unfortunate, but it happens in the sport.

Nice rationalization!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 01:39 AM
I knew it was you chubby! Simpletons aren't complicated. I was one of the ppl u creeped-up on. I have never yelled at a ref, opposing player, and barely cheer beyond generic comments. I was just standing there, Johny Sidler. It's clear your fellow Hawk's parents have you nailed as a clown yet they were quite charitable with their comments. Sore winners are funny tho. See u this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 02:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I knew it was you chubby! Simpletons aren't complicated. I was one of the ppl u creeped-up on. I have never yelled at a ref, opposing player, and barely cheer beyond generic comments. I was just standing there, Johny Sidler. It's clear your fellow Hawk's parents have you nailed as a clown yet they were quite charitable with their comments. Sore winners are funny tho. See u this summer.

We all saw you guys! Just own it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 02:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Madlax club and organization should be completely embarrassed. One of their players took a realllly bad cheap shot on the Hawks f/o kid. #47 Made an inappropriate hand gesture on the way to the penalty box. Word is the Fogo prob broke his arm on the play. #47 is a punk.

Your coach is an an embarrassment to youth sports, inspires NOBODY, and there would be Zero chance my kid would play for him. The cursing and incessant screaming on the sideline is something else... a Cisco of him would go completely viral on the internet.

Congrats to the Hawks for a 3rd straight win against Madlax. New #1 team in country? most definitely.

Madlax continues to attract trash parents. no surprise. your $100 polo doesn't make you any less trashy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Madlax club and organization should be completely embarrassed. One of their players took a realllly bad cheap shot on the Hawks f/o kid. #47 Made an inappropriate hand gesture on the way to the penalty box. Word is the Fogo prob broke his arm on the play. #47 is a punk.

Your coach is an an embarrassment to youth sports, inspires NOBODY, and there would be Zero chance my kid would play for him. The cursing and incessant screaming on the sideline is something else... a Cisco of him would go completely viral on the internet.

Congrats to the Hawks for a 3rd straight win against Madlax. New #1 team in country? most definitely.

If you can’t beat em... cheap shot em. I think if I ever see them again I’m going to set up a game video just pointed at that guy and post it on YouTube. No commentary, just let the viewers decide for themselves.


I can see it now... the Cab Maddox channel
On YouTube!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 02:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Madlax club and organization should be completely embarrassed. One of their players took a realllly bad cheap shot on the Hawks f/o kid. #47 Made an inappropriate hand gesture on the way to the penalty box. Word is the Fogo prob broke his arm on the play. #47 is a punk.

Your coach is an an embarrassment to youth sports, inspires NOBODY, and there would be Zero chance my kid would play for him. The cursing and incessant screaming on the sideline is something else... a Cisco of him would go completely viral on the internet.

Congrats to the Hawks for a 3rd straight win against Madlax. New #1 team in country? most definitely.

Madlax continues to attract trash parents. no surprise. your $100 polo doesn't make you any less trashy.

Watch out, bro dozer has you in his sights!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 03:44 AM
Windshield 3- bug 0
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 10:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody likes seeing a kid get hurt, certainly not 11 year olds. Can’t imagine the Hawks parents were thrilled to see the Madlax middie have his arm broken at Hershey by a Hawks defender last summer on a wicked slash — the kid was out till fall. Same game, the Hawks goalie got ejected for head butting a kid. Full on head butt, nothing close to a lacrosse play. Thrown out of the game. After a kid who had clearly never played goalie before came in, the Madlax coaches told them to let their goalie back in the game.

Good spirited rivalry between these two teams, both very talented, but seems to be a lot of animosity from the Hawks parents on here, or maybe it’s just one in particular. Whether towards Madlax coach or Madlax parents. Either way, it’s misguided. Zero trash talking from Madlax parents last couple years when ML was smoking the Hawks— and certainly not the last two weeks when they were losing decidedly. Hawks have loaded up with some good new talent, goalie is phenomenal. Once the face offs even out, these games will go either way.

Ever been to Annapolis area, Some of the most self centered aloof people in DMV area .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 11:36 AM
If I were a Madlax parent I'd be a lot more concerned with my coach than parents from other teams. The Hawks Dad, Next Level Mom, FCA Grandpa, etc. are only convenient distractions from the real issue: a coach who yells at little kids and expresses complete and utter frustration and anger when the chips are down. What a nightmare. If your kid's teacher acted like that while leading a difficult Math class how would you respond? If your boss acted like that how long would you stick around? This is leadership 101. The team has enough talent to windshield some good teams, but their days of beating teams like the Hawks are over with a coach like that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/17/21 12:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If I were a Madlax parent I'd be a lot more concerned with my coach than parents from other teams. The Hawks Dad, Next Level Mom, FCA Grandpa, etc. are only convenient distractions from the real issue: a coach who yells at little kids and expresses complete and utter frustration and anger when the chips are down. What a nightmare. If your kid's teacher acted like that while leading a difficult Math class how would you respond? If your boss acted like that how long would you stick around? This is leadership 101. The team has enough talent to windshield some good teams, but their days of beating teams like the Hawks are over with a coach like that.


So true. When we played them early in the HOCO season, I couldn’t believe how he acted.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/18/21 01:05 PM
A lot of these teams will see each other this summer!

Summer exposure and Naptown
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/18/21 02:10 PM
"...days of beating teams like the Hawks are done."

Blahahaahh. Stop living vicariously through your 12 year old. Definitely your first go around with the sport. Teams change all the time (see Hawks 28 for reference). ML28 hasn't thus far and has consistently been one of the better teams at this level. Kids will grow, move, quit, and new kids will join. Will it be the same team in HS when it matters....I have no idea, but I'm pretty confident your chest pounding is a little pre-mature.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/18/21 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"...days of beating teams like the Hawks are done."

Blahahaahh. Stop living vicariously through your 12 year old. Definitely your first go around with the sport. Teams change all the time (see Hawks 28 for reference). ML28 hasn't thus far and has consistently been one of the better teams at this level. Kids will grow, move, quit, and new kids will join. Will it be the same team in HS when it matters....I have no idea, but I'm pretty confident your chest pounding is a little pre-mature.


Well, the trajectory for Madlax is negative... that’s for sure. Lotsa Madlax parents grumbling the past two games...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/18/21 04:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"...days of beating teams like the Hawks are done."

Blahahaahh. Stop living vicariously through your 12 year old. Definitely your first go around with the sport. Teams change all the time (see Hawks 28 for reference). ML28 hasn't thus far and has consistently been one of the better teams at this level. Kids will grow, move, quit, and new kids will join. Will it be the same team in HS when it matters....I have no idea, but I'm pretty confident your chest pounding is a little pre-mature.

The only chest-pounding on here is ML parents (probably you) talking about how they hadn’t lost a hoco game since the 3rd grade. That was a whole 2 weeks ago. So who is the chest pounder?

Just stop already, nobody here is going to be lectured about their behavior by someone who willingly puts their kid on a team. Doesn’t making excuses for the ML culture ever get tiring?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/18/21 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"...days of beating teams like the Hawks are done."

Blahahaahh. Stop living vicariously through your 12 year old. Definitely your first go around with the sport. Teams change all the time (see Hawks 28 for reference). ML28 hasn't thus far and has consistently been one of the better teams at this level. Kids will grow, move, quit, and new kids will join. Will it be the same team in HS when it matters....I have no idea, but I'm pretty confident your chest pounding is a little pre-mature.


Well, the trajectory for Madlax is negative... that’s for sure. Lotsa Madlax parents grumbling the past two games...

And where are they going to go? Next Level? Don't think so.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/18/21 04:34 PM
Trajectory is negative because they lost to the Hawks 2x in the last week? The Hawks are likely the top team in the country at 2028, certainly top 2-3. Madlax pounded the Crabs again on Saturday, when they were predicted to be “on the wrong end by 4-5 goals” on this thread. I suppose a 12-4 win isn’t as convincing as the March 16-2 score, so the trajectory is therefore “negative.” Severna Park logic at its finest...

Kudos to the Hawks team, they’ve loaded up over the winter and will be tough to beat. Well coached, great goalie, and dominant FOGO. Recipe for success.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/18/21 05:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Trajectory is negative because they lost to the Hawks 2x in the last week? The Hawks are likely the top team in the country at 2028, certainly top 2-3. Madlax pounded the Crabs again on Saturday, when they were predicted to be “on the wrong end by 4-5 goals” on this thread. I suppose a 12-4 win isn’t as convincing as the March 16-2 score, so the trajectory is therefore “negative.” Severna Park logic at its finest...

Kudos to the Hawks team, they’ve loaded up over the winter and will be tough to beat. Well coached, great goalie, and dominant FOGO. Recipe for success.

Losing by 2 and then 5 and having the coach go bonkers is the trajectory, even with a Landon education you should be able to pick that up. I kid and nobody really wants any weird 5th grade sports drama. With the talent and skill level, Madlax is absolutely in the top one or two at the age group in the country. Almost all parents and the players themselves on both teams appreciate the level of play and quality on the field. The ML coach makes for a great villain but other than that they are going to play a ton and it should be a great matchup very time. See everyone this summer!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/19/21 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Trajectory is negative because they lost to the Hawks 2x in the last week? The Hawks are likely the top team in the country at 2028, certainly top 2-3. Madlax pounded the Crabs again on Saturday, when they were predicted to be “on the wrong end by 4-5 goals” on this thread. I suppose a 12-4 win isn’t as convincing as the March 16-2 score, so the trajectory is therefore “negative.” Severna Park logic at its finest...

Kudos to the Hawks team, they’ve loaded up over the winter and will be tough to beat. Well coached, great goalie, and dominant FOGO. Recipe for success.

Losing by 2 and then 5 and having the coach go bonkers is the trajectory, even with a Landon education you should be able to pick that up. I kid and nobody really wants any weird 5th grade sports drama. With the talent and skill level, Madlax is absolutely in the top one or two at the age group in the country. Almost all parents and the players themselves on both teams appreciate the level of play and quality on the field. The ML coach makes for a great villain but other than that they are going to play a ton and it should be a great matchup very time. See everyone this summer!

Well—- #2. Not #1 anymore
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/19/21 04:19 PM
Out of curiosity what do people think of this class of HOCO players relative to others? In comparison to my other sons classes, I thought this group was very strong at goalie and pole; about in line with other classes at attack, although maybe fewer really high level players at this point; weaker in the midfield; and impossible to compare classes at face off. This is just my own opinion. But anyone have a sense of how they think this group stacks up to other recent classes? For sure this will change over time as the kids get bigger and stronger.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/19/21 04:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Out of curiosity what do people think of this class of HOCO players relative to others? In comparison to my other sons classes, I thought this group was very strong at goalie and pole; about in line with other classes at attack, although maybe fewer really high level players at this point; weaker in the midfield; and impossible to compare classes at face off. This is just my own opinion. But anyone have a sense of how they think this group stacks up to other recent classes? For sure this will change over time as the kids get bigger and stronger.

Seriously— who knows. BUT, I think you got it kinda backwards— goalies are really good in Elite. There are a handful should-be-star attackmen (Hawks, Madlax,FCA) but I’ve always felt the poles were lacking.

Perspective I guess
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/20/21 02:03 PM
Admittedly a Father of a kid playing in NY (Igloo), who are the top teams in the MD/VA area? We hope to play some of you guys in summer tourneys. Anyone coming to play in NLF in July in MA?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/20/21 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Admittedly a Father of a kid playing in NY (Igloo), who are the top teams in the MD/VA area? We hope to play some of you guys in summer tourneys. Anyone coming to play in NLF in July in MA?

1. Annapolis Hawks (just won HOCO)
2. Madlax
3. FCA
4. Crabs
5. True Annapolis
6. Next Level
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/20/21 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Admittedly a Father of a kid playing in NY (Igloo), who are the top teams in the MD/VA area? We hope to play some of you guys in summer tourneys. Anyone coming to play in NLF in July in MA?


Madlax plays in NLF in MA this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/20/21 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Admittedly a Father of a kid playing in NY (Igloo), who are the top teams in the MD/VA area? We hope to play some of you guys in summer tourneys. Anyone coming to play in NLF in July in MA?


Madlax plays in NLF in MA this summer.


Annapolis Hawks 2028 is also playing in MA at the NLF tourney
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 01:41 AM
Hey Cab Maddox- the Instagram videos of how good your 2028 team is “slinging the rock” sure is a nice touch—- especially in a 6 goal loss, what a JOKE. That guy needs his teeth adjusted.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 11:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Cab Maddox- the Instagram videos of how good your 2028 team is “slinging the rock” sure is a nice touch—- especially in a 6 goal loss, what a JOKE. That guy needs his teeth adjusted.

You have to have slick marketing when you have an inferior product, and I’m not talking about wins and losses.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 01:17 PM
Why so angry?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 01:19 PM
When you’re a MadLax parent and you watch that video does it give you pride?

I think the next time the Hawks should just run it up. 10-3 at half wasn’t enough apparently.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 01:29 PM
What a bunch of sore “winners” you all are. Get over yourselves. In the highlight reel it CLEARLY states that MadLax lost to a “talented Hawks squad”. Is MadLax not allowed to post anything if they lose?! This banter has gotten incredibly old.

Do you have nothing better to do then complain about 10, 11 and 12 year olds getting a post on Instagram?? It is interesting you follow MadLax 😂
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 01:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you’re a MadLax parent and you watch that video does it give you pride?

I think the next time the Hawks should just run it up. 10-3 at half wasn’t enough apparently.


Actually, yes it does. Our boys work really hard day in and day out. So yes it does give quite a lot of pride seeing them being celebrated.

Does it make you feel better talking garbage about 5th graders?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 01:38 PM
It's pretty apparent by the comments on this board that Hawks 2028 parents are not used to success.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 01:39 PM
Can we all agree that this has gotten a bit out of hand? I mean come on, let’s keep things in perspective, we are talking about 10, 11, 12 year old KIDS.

Can we all agree that we are all doing the best we can, and what is right for one family and child might not be right for someone else? We all have the common goal to do what we think is best for our own child.

You don’t like Cabell? Great! Don’t play for him.
You think MadLax is too expensive? Great! Don’t play for them.
You think the 2028 MadLax team is going to “fall apart’? Why do you care!? Not to mention you could say that about any team in any age bracket. Again, we are all doing what we think is best for our child at that time. Maybe some MadLax families will move on, maybe they won’t. Maybe kids from other teams will join MadLax (oh! the horror).. guess what?! It is that families choice.

We all have choices, make the best one for your child and your family, but judging another family for a decision that they feel is best just makes you look catty and jealous.

The MadLax boys (just like I am sure every other team) work hard, they are focused and they have fun. No one is making anyone play for a team or coach that they don’t like. The MadLax boys are playing for MadLax because they WANT to play for MadLax/Cabell. I have seen other coaches (for instance, FCA) act incredibly obnoxious and let’s not even start on the Hawks dad, the True dad, the True mom that are yelling so aggressively that their own team parents move away from them. You think your team is so great, look in the mirror.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why so angry?

Because my kid can’t find his new hat.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 02:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we all agree that this has gotten a bit out of hand? I mean come on, let’s keep things in perspective, we are talking about 10, 11, 12 year old KIDS.

Can we all agree that we are all doing the best we can, and what is right for one family and child might not be right for someone else? We all have the common goal to do what we think is best for our own child.

You don’t like Cabell? Great! Don’t play for him.
You think MadLax is too expensive? Great! Don’t play for them.
You think the 2028 MadLax team is going to “fall apart’? Why do you care!? Not to mention you could say that about any team in any age bracket. Again, we are all doing what we think is best for our child at that time. Maybe some MadLax families will move on, maybe they won’t. Maybe kids from other teams will join MadLax (oh! the horror).. guess what?! It is that families choice.

We all have choices, make the best one for your child and your family, but judging another family for a decision that they feel is best just makes you look catty and jealous.

The MadLax boys (just like I am sure every other team) work hard, they are focused and they have fun. No one is making anyone play for a team or coach that they don’t like. The MadLax boys are playing for MadLax because they WANT to play for MadLax/Cabell. I have seen other coaches (for instance, FCA) act incredibly obnoxious and let’s not even start on the Hawks dad, the True dad, the True mom that are yelling so aggressively that their own team parents move away from them. You think your team is so great, look in the mirror.

Typical MadLax response to criticism. “But everyone else is also bad so we’re good.”

And no we can’t agree. You bring it on yourself. I would literally let my kid play for any coach in the elite division but one.

Lastly, the video is pure MadLax, get blown out and post a video only showing goals. Pure class!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 02:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we all agree that this has gotten a bit out of hand? I mean come on, let’s keep things in perspective, we are talking about 10, 11, 12 year old KIDS.

Can we all agree that we are all doing the best we can, and what is right for one family and child might not be right for someone else? We all have the common goal to do what we think is best for our own child.

You don’t like Cabell? Great! Don’t play for him.
You think MadLax is too expensive? Great! Don’t play for them.
You think the 2028 MadLax team is going to “fall apart’? Why do you care!? Not to mention you could say that about any team in any age bracket. Again, we are all doing what we think is best for our child at that time. Maybe some MadLax families will move on, maybe they won’t. Maybe kids from other teams will join MadLax (oh! the horror).. guess what?! It is that families choice.

We all have choices, make the best one for your child and your family, but judging another family for a decision that they feel is best just makes you look catty and jealous.

The MadLax boys (just like I am sure every other team) work hard, they are focused and they have fun. No one is making anyone play for a team or coach that they don’t like. The MadLax boys are playing for MadLax because they WANT to play for MadLax/Cabell. I have seen other coaches (for instance, FCA) act incredibly obnoxious and let’s not even start on the Hawks dad, the True dad, the True mom that are yelling so aggressively that their own team parents move away from them. You think your team is so great, look in the mirror.

Typical MadLax response to criticism. “But everyone else is also bad so we’re good.”

And no we can’t agree. You bring it on yourself. I would literally let my kid play for any coach in the elite division but one.

Lastly, the video is pure MadLax, get blown out and post a video only showing goals. Pure class!

Meh, starting to be clear that this is not Hawks parents on here stirring the pot. Lots of respect for the players. No love for the coach but most of the hawks parents have a lot in common with ML parents and good competition makes everyone better. ML has great social media, and helps a ton at older age groups. Bad apples everywhere in this sport, move on and let the kids play. Bring on the tournament season!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 02:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we all agree that this has gotten a bit out of hand? I mean come on, let’s keep things in perspective, we are talking about 10, 11, 12 year old KIDS.

Have you said that to your coach? Serious question. I agree with everything you wrote in your post about families being able to do what they want, but don't conflate the impact of a few stunad parents with an stunad coach yelling and screaming at "10, 11, 12 year old KIDS." Absolutely your choice to subject your son to that and I hope, sincerely, that I'm wrong and everyone lives their dreams. Right now it looks like the first chapter of a terrible 30 for 30.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Cab Maddox- the Instagram videos of how good your 2028 team is “slinging the rock” sure is a nice touch—- especially in a 6 goal loss, what a JOKE. That guy needs his teeth adjusted.
Who cares if the clip was from a loss. It was a great clip and goal, and no I am not a ML parent. I bet the kid doesn’t care it was from a loss either. Bet if it was your kid, you would be praising the clip not caring what game it was.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 03:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we all agree that this has gotten a bit out of hand? I mean come on, let’s keep things in perspective, we are talking about 10, 11, 12 year old KIDS.

Have you said that to your coach? Serious question. I agree with everything you wrote in your post about families being able to do what they want, but don't conflate the impact of a few stunad parents with an stunad coach yelling and screaming at "10, 11, 12 year old KIDS." Absolutely your choice to subject your son to that and I hope, sincerely, that I'm wrong and everyone lives their dreams. Right now it looks like the first chapter of a terrible 30 for 30.

Imagine if I told you all of the parents saw the train coming since 2nd grade...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we all agree that this has gotten a bit out of hand? I mean come on, let’s keep things in perspective, we are talking about 10, 11, 12 year old KIDS.

Can we all agree that we are all doing the best we can, and what is right for one family and child might not be right for someone else? We all have the common goal to do what we think is best for our own child.

You don’t like Cabell? Great! Don’t play for him.
You think MadLax is too expensive? Great! Don’t play for them.
You think the 2028 MadLax team is going to “fall apart’? Why do you care!? Not to mention you could say that about any team in any age bracket. Again, we are all doing what we think is best for our child at that time. Maybe some MadLax families will move on, maybe they won’t. Maybe kids from other teams will join MadLax (oh! the horror).. guess what?! It is that families choice.

We all have choices, make the best one for your child and your family, but judging another family for a decision that they feel is best just makes you look catty and jealous.

The MadLax boys (just like I am sure every other team) work hard, they are focused and they have fun. No one is making anyone play for a team or coach that they don’t like. The MadLax boys are playing for MadLax because they WANT to play for MadLax/Cabell. I have seen other coaches (for instance, FCA) act incredibly obnoxious and let’s not even start on the Hawks dad, the True dad, the True mom that are yelling so aggressively that their own team parents move away from them. You think your team is so great, look in the mirror.

12 year old 5th graders, gotta love it!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 04:00 PM
Was going to say the same thing... my little Johnny just turned 11. Hmmm.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was going to say the same thing... my little Johnny just turned 11. Hmmm.

Mine doesn’t turn 11 until November.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 05:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we all agree that this has gotten a bit out of hand? I mean come on, let’s keep things in perspective, we are talking about 10, 11, 12 year old KIDS.

Can we all agree that we are all doing the best we can, and what is right for one family and child might not be right for someone else? We all have the common goal to do what we think is best for our own child.

You don’t like Cabell? Great! Don’t play for him.
You think MadLax is too expensive? Great! Don’t play for them.
You think the 2028 MadLax team is going to “fall apart’? Why do you care!? Not to mention you could say that about any team in any age bracket. Again, we are all doing what we think is best for our child at that time. Maybe some MadLax families will move on, maybe they won’t. Maybe kids from other teams will join MadLax (oh! the horror).. guess what?! It is that families choice.

We all have choices, make the best one for your child and your family, but judging another family for a decision that they feel is best just makes you look catty and jealous.

The MadLax boys (just like I am sure every other team) work hard, they are focused and they have fun. No one is making anyone play for a team or coach that they don’t like. The MadLax boys are playing for MadLax because they WANT to play for MadLax/Cabell. I have seen other coaches (for instance, FCA) act incredibly obnoxious and let’s not even start on the Hawks dad, the True dad, the True mom that are yelling so aggressively that their own team parents move away from them. You think your team is so great, look in the mirror.

12 year old 5th graders, gotta love it!

I’m sure he will claim that “everybody does it”. smile
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 05:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we all agree that this has gotten a bit out of hand? I mean come on, let’s keep things in perspective, we are talking about 10, 11, 12 year old KIDS.

Can we all agree that we are all doing the best we can, and what is right for one family and child might not be right for someone else? We all have the common goal to do what we think is best for our own child.

You don’t like Cabell? Great! Don’t play for him.
You think MadLax is too expensive? Great! Don’t play for them.
You think the 2028 MadLax team is going to “fall apart’? Why do you care!? Not to mention you could say that about any team in any age bracket. Again, we are all doing what we think is best for our child at that time. Maybe some MadLax families will move on, maybe they won’t. Maybe kids from other teams will join MadLax (oh! the horror).. guess what?! It is that families choice.

We all have choices, make the best one for your child and your family, but judging another family for a decision that they feel is best just makes you look catty and jealous.

The MadLax boys (just like I am sure every other team) work hard, they are focused and they have fun. No one is making anyone play for a team or coach that they don’t like. The MadLax boys are playing for MadLax because they WANT to play for MadLax/Cabell. I have seen other coaches (for instance, FCA) act incredibly obnoxious and let’s not even start on the Hawks dad, the True dad, the True mom that are yelling so aggressively that their own team parents move away from them. You think your team is so great, look in the mirror.

12 year old 5th graders, gotta love it!

That's ironic coming from a Hawks parent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 05:34 PM
There are no 12 year olds on the Hawks.
Good try though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are no 12 year olds on the Hawks.
Good try though.

Not even the 4 kids who reclassified this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's pretty apparent by the comments on this board that Hawks 2028 parents are not used to success.

They are very much used to it. That 27 team that they should still be playing for has won HoCO several times.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's pretty apparent by the comments on this board that Hawks 2028 parents are not used to success.

They are very much used to it. That 27 team that they should still be playing for has won HoCO several times.

Well said!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 07:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's pretty apparent by the comments on this board that Hawks 2028 parents are not used to success.

They are very much used to it. That 27 team that they should still be playing for has won HoCO several times.
Brilliant response.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 07:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's pretty apparent by the comments on this board that Hawks 2028 parents are not used to success.

They are very much used to it. That 27 team that they should still be playing for has won HoCO several times.
Brilliant response.


I’d bet on it that these are not Hawks parents trolling the Madlax devotees. Sounds a little more personal.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 07:27 PM
Not a single 12 year old on the 2028 Hawks.

You guys will hve to find a better reason why you’re not #2 anymore.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 08:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's pretty apparent by the comments on this board that Hawks 2028 parents are not used to success.

They are very much used to it. That 27 team that they should still be playing for has won HoCO several times.
Brilliant response.


I’d bet on it that these are not Hawks parents trolling the Madlax devotees. Sounds a little more personal.

Agreed. I doubt its coming from any of them. These are coming from parents that haven't experienced much winning. Most likely in their personal life too.

Riding the coat tails of the goalie and the reclassed kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 09:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are no 12 year olds on the Hawks.
Good try though.

Not even the 4 kids who reclassified this year.

Again the most MadLax thing ever... claim that it’s 10-12 year olds, get called out that the Hawks don’t have any 12 yo kids (obviously MadLax does) move on to holdbacks. Get that wrong, what’s next?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/21/21 09:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's pretty apparent by the comments on this board that Hawks 2028 parents are not used to success.

They are very much used to it. That 27 team that they should still be playing for has won HoCO several times.
Brilliant response.


I’d bet on it that these are not Hawks parents trolling the Madlax devotees. Sounds a little more personal.

On brand - always somebody else’s fault.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 12:18 AM
Hawks 28 oldest players start turning 12 in July. Summer holdbacks - they own it and play by the rules. All players have always been 28s in school - no re-classes, some played up on 27 in years past - they were always 28s in school. The team formed last August after try outs with lots of new players. They came into spring as underdogs given the previous 28 Hawks team did not play Elite in 2019 and they lost to Next Level in fall 2020 (with the exact same roster they have now). They played great lacrosse and won HOCO.

"Riding the coat tails of the goalie and the reclassed kids." and similar posts are ridiculous...sore lost?!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 03:15 AM
LI Dad here...12 year old at this point for '28 that is a joke... This summer, I get it, you can hide behind the rules of a july bday turning 12, but what a false sense of reality and relative talent if you are the father of that kid. enjoy your middle school glory. there is one kid on my sons travel team (28) that has a birthday before October. Cant wait for lax to go strict birthyear age groupings like hockey, football and soccer. No logical argument not to...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 03:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks 28 oldest players start turning 12 in July. Summer holdbacks - they own it and play by the rules. All players have always been 28s in school - no re-classes, some played up on 27 in years past - they were always 28s in school. The team formed last August after try outs with lots of new players. They came into spring as underdogs given the previous 28 Hawks team did not play Elite in 2019 and they lost to Next Level in fall 2020 (with the exact same roster they have now). They played great lacrosse and won HOCO.

"Riding the coat tails of the goalie and the reclassed kids." and similar posts are ridiculous...sore lost?!

Sorry some of your kids are too dense to do normal school on their age. Do less drugs. Pill popping, overweight, mlm addicts aren't good parents clearly!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 11:36 AM
Oh geez, get a grip, at every level of play - middle school, high school and college - players from multiple grades play on the same team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 11:37 AM
This is the densest post I’ve seen yet.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 01:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI Dad here...12 year old at this point for '28 that is a joke... This summer, I get it, you can hide behind the rules of a july bday turning 12, but what a false sense of reality and relative talent if you are the father of that kid. enjoy your middle school glory. there is one kid on my sons travel team (28) that has a birthday before October. Cant wait for lax to go strict birthyear age groupings like hockey, football and soccer. No logical argument not to...


LI Dad.... suuuuuure


We gotta move on guys
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 04:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks 28 oldest players start turning 12 in July. Summer holdbacks - they own it and play by the rules. All players have always been 28s in school - no re-classes, some played up on 27 in years past - they were always 28s in school. The team formed last August after try outs with lots of new players. They came into spring as underdogs given the previous 28 Hawks team did not play Elite in 2019 and they lost to Next Level in fall 2020 (with the exact same roster they have now). They played great lacrosse and won HOCO.

"Riding the coat tails of the goalie and the reclassed kids." and similar posts are ridiculous...sore lost?!

Sorry some of your kids are too dense to do normal school on their age. Do less drugs. Pill popping, overweight, mlm addicts aren't good parents clearly!

When our son was in preschool we made a decision to have him be a month old for his grade rather than two+ months younger than everyone. It makes a big difference, especially for boys who, generally, develop and mature physically and mentally later than girls. He's always been pretty alert and athletic, but we didn't know for sure if our kid was dense or not. We definitely weren't considering whether some stunad on an anonymous message board years later would call him "too dense to do normal school." It turns out he's actually a pretty great kid. I'm sorry if he's better at a game than your son. I like to think part of why he's a great kid and teammate is because we're pretty good parents. All of this must be hard for you and though I hope you will get over it, it doesn't seem likely. Good luck this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 04:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh geez, get a grip, at every level of play - middle school, high school and college - players from multiple grades play on the same team.

Except this is 2028 so none of that applies?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 08:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks 28 oldest players start turning 12 in July. Summer holdbacks - they own it and play by the rules. All players have always been 28s in school - no re-classes, some played up on 27 in years past - they were always 28s in school. The team formed last August after try outs with lots of new players. They came into spring as underdogs given the previous 28 Hawks team did not play Elite in 2019 and they lost to Next Level in fall 2020 (with the exact same roster they have now). They played great lacrosse and won HOCO.

"Riding the coat tails of the goalie and the reclassed kids." and similar posts are ridiculous...sore lost?!

Sorry some of your kids are too dense to do normal school on their age. Do less drugs. Pill popping, overweight, mlm addicts aren't good parents clearly!

All I can say is... wow. You've taken it to a new low even for MadLax. I'm afraid to look up what mlm is.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh geez, get a grip, at every level of play - middle school, high school and college - players from multiple grades play on the same team.

Did he hit a nerve? I'm guessing little johnny is 12, since you keep posting about 10-12 year olds.

Out of curiosity, how many MadLax kids are 12?

Typical response though, it's always somebody else's fault or "everybody does it" to excuse the MadLax behavior.

I know what I would tell my kid if he said he was good and everyone else was the problem. Maybe your mom should have done the same!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks 28 oldest players start turning 12 in July. Summer holdbacks - they own it and play by the rules. All players have always been 28s in school - no re-classes, some played up on 27 in years past - they were always 28s in school. The team formed last August after try outs with lots of new players. They came into spring as underdogs given the previous 28 Hawks team did not play Elite in 2019 and they lost to Next Level in fall 2020 (with the exact same roster they have now). They played great lacrosse and won HOCO.

"Riding the coat tails of the goalie and the reclassed kids." and similar posts are ridiculous...sore lost?!

Sorry some of your kids are too dense to do normal school on their age. Do less drugs. Pill popping, overweight, mlm addicts aren't good parents clearly!

When our son was in preschool we made a decision to have him be a month old for his grade rather than two+ months younger than everyone. It makes a big difference, especially for boys who, generally, develop and mature physically and mentally later than girls. He's always been pretty alert and athletic, but we didn't know for sure if our kid was dense or not. We definitely weren't considering whether some stunad on an anonymous message board years later would call him "too dense to do normal school." It turns out he's actually a pretty great kid. I'm sorry if he's better at a game than your son. I like to think part of why he's a great kid and teammate is because we're pretty good parents. All of this must be hard for you and though I hope you will get over it, it doesn't seem likely. Good luck this summer.

Thanks, Mr. Mom.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 08:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh geez, get a grip, at every level of play - middle school, high school and college - players from multiple grades play on the same team.

Except this is 2028 so none of that applies?

Don't try logic with them! I would have been great in HS when I was a freshman in college! smile
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 09:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks 28 oldest players start turning 12 in July. Summer holdbacks - they own it and play by the rules. All players have always been 28s in school - no re-classes, some played up on 27 in years past - they were always 28s in school. The team formed last August after try outs with lots of new players. They came into spring as underdogs given the previous 28 Hawks team did not play Elite in 2019 and they lost to Next Level in fall 2020 (with the exact same roster they have now). They played great lacrosse and won HOCO.

"Riding the coat tails of the goalie and the reclassed kids." and similar posts are ridiculous...sore lost?!

Sorry some of your kids are too dense to do normal school on their age. Do less drugs. Pill popping, overweight, mlm addicts aren't good parents clearly!

When our son was in preschool we made a decision to have him be a month old for his grade rather than two+ months younger than everyone. It makes a big difference, especially for boys who, generally, develop and mature physically and mentally later than girls. He's always been pretty alert and athletic, but we didn't know for sure if our kid was dense or not. We definitely weren't considering whether some stunad on an anonymous message board years later would call him "too dense to do normal school." It turns out he's actually a pretty great kid. I'm sorry if he's better at a game than your son. I like to think part of why he's a great kid and teammate is because we're pretty good parents. All of this must be hard for you and though I hope you will get over it, it doesn't seem likely. Good luck this summer.

Thanks, Mr. Mom.

You’re welcome, son.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/22/21 09:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh geez, get a grip, at every level of play - middle school, high school and college - players from multiple grades play on the same team.


If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/25/21 03:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh geez, get a grip, at every level of play - middle school, high school and college - players from multiple grades play on the same team.

Except this is 2028 so none of that applies?

Don't try logic with them! I would have been great in HS when I was a freshman in college! smile
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh geez, get a grip, at every level of play - middle school, high school and college - players from multiple grades play on the same team.

Except this is 2028 so none of that applies?

Don't try logic with them! I would have been great in HS when I was a freshman in college! smile

Use ‘logic’ with them. This has to be a bad attempt at humor since it is painfully obvious you have NO idea what the word means. LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/25/21 06:51 PM
Ok— who is playing the first week in June? Looks like a lot start on the 12th with Summer Exposure
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/26/21 12:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh geez, get a grip, at every level of play - middle school, high school and college - players from multiple grades play on the same team.

Except this is 2028 so none of that applies?

Don't try logic with them! I would have been great in HS when I was a freshman in college! smile
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh geez, get a grip, at every level of play - middle school, high school and college - players from multiple grades play on the same team.

Except this is 2028 so none of that applies?

Don't try logic with them! I would have been great in HS when I was a freshman in college! smile

Use ‘logic’ with them. This has to be a bad attempt at humor since it is painfully obvious you have NO idea what the word means. LOL

It's pretty simple, but I'll spell it out for you anyway. If somebody is 19 and they are playing with 18 year olds, they have an advantage. How many 12 year olds on ML again?

Here's the beauty of it though... even at 12 little johnny still lost.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/26/21 12:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh geez, get a grip, at every level of play - middle school, high school and college - players from multiple grades play on the same team.

Except this is 2028 so none of that applies?

Don't try logic with them! I would have been great in HS when I was a freshman in college! smile

Use ‘logic’ with them. This has to be a bad attempt at humor since it is painfully obvious you have NO idea what the word means. LOL[/quote]

You’re great at playing dense. I bet it comes naturally.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/26/21 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh geez, get a grip, at every level of play - middle school, high school and college - players from multiple grades play on the same team.

Except this is 2028 so none of that applies?

Don't try logic with them! I would have been great in HS when I was a freshman in college! smile

Use ‘logic’ with them. This has to be a bad attempt at humor since it is painfully obvious you have NO idea what the word means. LOL

You’re great at playing dense. I bet it comes naturally.[/quote]

Once again your ridiculously illogical statement speaks for itself. However, I do hope this is a 12-yr-old making these puerile remarks; if not and it’s a dad then no wonder the country is in decline.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/26/21 09:43 AM
MadLax #47 dad - you’re the only one with a 12 year old. Give it a rest already.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/26/21 04:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MadLax #47 dad - you’re the only one with a 12 year old. Give it a rest already.

How about rest from your adolescent behavior and your repugnant practice of calling out young boys on this forum. Your actions are an awe example for any child.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/26/21 05:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MadLax #47 dad - you’re the only one with a 12 year old. Give it a rest already.

How about rest from your adolescent behavior and your repugnant practice of calling out young boys on this forum. Your actions are an awe example for any child.

The truth hurts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/26/21 05:45 PM
anyone playing in the nlf up in NY on june 5?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/26/21 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone playing in the nlf up in NY on june 5?
MadLax and Hawks are going to MA in July, do t know about NY though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/31/21 08:03 PM
NAL in Philly June 12-13 will be good test with LI Express, LI Express North, Madlax, True Nationals, BBL, FCA, Sweetlax, Primetime, Sentry, LI Legacy, etc.

Will see how Mid Atlantic stacks up with the NY kids. No Hawks though, they’re still busy beating their chests against one another
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/31/21 08:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL in Philly June 12-13 will be good test with LI Express, LI Express North, Madlax, True Nationals, BBL, FCA, Sweetlax, Primetime, Sentry, LI Legacy, etc.

Will see how Mid Atlantic stacks up with the NY kids. No Hawks though, they’re still busy beating their chests against one another

Nah, that only lasted for about 10 seconds before they jogged past the Madlax coaches who had their hands on their hips and heads hanging.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 05/31/21 09:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL in Philly June 12-13 will be good test with LI Express, LI Express North, Madlax, True Nationals, BBL, FCA, Sweetlax, Primetime, Sentry, LI Legacy, etc.

Will see how Mid Atlantic stacks up with the NY kids. No Hawks though, they’re still busy beating their chests against one another

What's sadder — the Madlax coach on here posting or that he begrudges a bunch of kids celebrating after winning HoCo?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/01/21 12:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL in Philly June 12-13 will be good test with LI Express, LI Express North, Madlax, True Nationals, BBL, FCA, Sweetlax, Primetime, Sentry, LI Legacy, etc.

Will see how Mid Atlantic stacks up with the NY kids. No Hawks though, they’re still busy beating their chests against one another

Good slate of teams and best of luck to Madlax, we will make sure to follow you on the gram’
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/01/21 03:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL in Philly June 12-13 will be good test with LI Express, LI Express North, Madlax, True Nationals, BBL, FCA, Sweetlax, Primetime, Sentry, LI Legacy, etc.

Will see how Mid Atlantic stacks up with the NY kids. No Hawks though, they’re still busy beating their chests against one another

Good slate of teams and best of luck to Madlax, we will make sure to follow you on the gram’


Hawks have beaten everyone in MD. If the Md teams beat up on the NY teams, Hawks will then know they’re actually #1.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/01/21 06:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL in Philly June 12-13 will be good test with LI Express, LI Express North, Madlax, True Nationals, BBL, FCA, Sweetlax, Primetime, Sentry, LI Legacy, etc.

Will see how Mid Atlantic stacks up with the NY kids. No Hawks though, they’re still busy beating their chests against one another

Good slate of teams and best of luck to Madlax, we will make sure to follow you on the gram’


Hawks have beaten everyone in MD. If the Md teams beat up on the NY teams, Hawks will then know they’re actually #1.

Anyone know anything about True National this year, like which teams will support the team? I know last year they had kids from non True teams, will that happen again or will it be all from the True teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/02/21 01:18 AM
Hawks beat LI Express 9-1 and BBL 7-2 in March at a DE play day; but that was early spring … so who knows, a lot can change
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/02/21 02:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks beat LI Express 9-1 and BBL 7-2 in March at a DE play day; but that was early spring … so who knows, a lot can change


Yeah— the Hawks are much improved from then
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/02/21 11:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks beat LI Express 9-1 and BBL 7-2 in March at a DE play day; but that was early spring … so who knows, a lot can change


Yeah— the Hawks are much improved from then

Hawk parent here - I was talking to one of the LI Express parents. I think at the time we played LIE had something like 4 practices since the fall, due to covid, town stuff or other. I imagine they are much improved after a full spring.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/02/21 04:56 PM
Which LI express team did you play?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/02/21 08:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which LI express team did you play?

No idea. It was in DE in early March I think. Have no idea if it was their A team or not. I think we played BBL, LIE and NJ Express.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/03/21 08:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which LI express team did you play?

Chucks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/03/21 11:54 PM
Hawks parent - why aren’t you playing at NAL next weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/04/21 12:25 AM
Their lack of success in 2020 didn’t garner them an invite. I’m sure they will be at the top of the list next season. Here’s hoping Madlax rolls everyone and it’ll be clear where everyone stacks up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/04/21 12:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks parent - why aren’t you playing at NAL next weekend?

Way too much competition in the NAL next weekend. The team isn't actually that good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/04/21 12:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks parent - why aren’t you playing at NAL next weekend?

Not a Hawks parent, but Hogan is putting on the summer exposure tournament in Annapolis that weekend so not surprising are playing there instead.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/04/21 12:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks parent - why aren’t you playing at NAL next weekend?

Hawks are playing in the Hogan Summer Exposure tournament next weekend. Backyard and good competition at 2028 but the year most likely. NAL will great a great tournament and sorry to miss it. Hope to see everyone at NLF in mass which should be most of the NAL teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/04/21 12:58 AM
The NAL field isn’t that strong. Madlax is good, FCA is pretty good, LIE and Legacy might be pretty good, and maybe the True National team is decent. But aren’t Team 91 Venom, Two Way, and Eclipse the best up north? Has Sweet Lax gotten a lot better?

I don’t think NAL is going to show much. Madlax should take that tournament. But the better northern teams aren’t there so will be hard to compare until there is more play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/04/21 02:11 AM
“The team isn't actually that good” guess we’ll see this summer…
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/04/21 02:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks beat LI Express 9-1 and BBL 7-2 in March at a DE play day; but that was early spring … so who knows, a lot can change

FYI- Those are not top LI teams in this age bracket.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/04/21 02:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks beat LI Express 9-1 and BBL 7-2 in March at a DE play day; but that was early spring … so who knows, a lot can change

FYI- Those are not top LI teams in this age bracket.

Who are they?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/04/21 03:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks parent - why aren’t you playing at NAL next weekend?

Way too much competition in the NAL next weekend. The team isn't actually that good.


This is just some angry Madlax dad with a big ol spoon. I hope Madlax wins the whole thing. They still know they can’t beat the Hawks. 0-3 this year vs Annapolis’ best. Madlax rolls in NAL... those losing teams better be worried about ALL the MD teams at NLF in July.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/07/21 04:26 AM
Then why are virtually every other Hawks team playing in NAL.

Just look at tourney machine. Yes
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/07/21 12:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Then why are virtually every other Hawks team playing in NAL.

Just look at tourney machine. Yes

Not even a Hawks parent, but attempt at a troll… do you really think a team that just won hoco elite is ducking teams? Your obsession is embarrassing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/07/21 07:17 PM
The fields above 2028 at Summer Exposure are weak which is why the other Hawks teams opted out. For 2028, the field at summer exposure for the games the Hawks are playing are probably stronger in terms of strength of schedule than NAL on a game per game basis.

If you take the fall and spring, the top band of teams on the east coast in this age look like something like Team 91 Venom, Hawks, Eclipse, 2way, and Madlax in no particular order.

Then the next band of teams is something like Long Island Express A, Legacy A, Rush, Mooselax, Rebels, Sweetlax, Freedom A, Mad Dog National, FCA, Next Level, Crabs, and True. Also in no order. Probably another couple teams in this tier.

Hawks are playing Next Level, Crabs, Freedom, Alpha Elite (CO) and then likely whoever of those teams does the best in the final. That’s 4-5 quality wins for the US Club rankings RPI depending on how good the Colorado team is if they can go undefeated.

From the pools for NAL looks like Madlax is playing United (not great, lost to Mesa last week), Igloo (mediocre, lost a couple times to mid tier teams on LI last week), and Express North. So that’s three wins likely against so-so competition. Then in the bracket On Sunday you maybe get a couple of wins against Legacy or FCA or Sweetlax or True. But for a RPI like the club rankings Hawks would likely come out way ahead with the Summer Exposure slate of games.

In any event, the Mass NLF seems the strongest in terms of teams. NAL has a lot of teams, but only a handful of top teams. There’s a lot of weaker teams in the pools which means you’ll only get a few strong opponents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/08/21 01:29 AM
Every Hawks team is playing NAL next weekend from 2025 down to 2030– except the ‘28’s. Avoiding someone...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/08/21 11:25 AM
Summer Exposure might actually be the better tournament this weekend for the 28s. Who would the Hawks be avoiding? If you want to play them they’ll also be at Young Guns, Naptown, and NLF. Sign up and have some fun.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/08/21 12:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Every Hawks team is playing NAL next weekend from 2025 down to 2030– except the ‘28’s. Avoiding someone...

If you are implying Hawks are avoiding Madlax, you missed their last 3 matchups. The summer schedule was decided a long time for most teams. Hawks will have some good matchups at Summer Exposure and sleep in their own beds, plenty of tournaments coming up this summer. Madlax is the favorite for NAL, unless there is a team under the radar that can surprise them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/09/21 12:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Every Hawks team is playing NAL next weekend from 2025 down to 2030– except the ‘28’s. Avoiding someone...

The MadLax insecurity is real! Nice troll attempt.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/11/21 07:32 PM
Good luck to everyone in their tourney games this weekends
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/12/21 09:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to everyone in their tourney games this weekends

Great slate of Saturday games. FCA, Madlax doing well at NAL. curious to see a mid Atlantic team play legacy that went 4-0 and if Madlax can close it out. Hawks and Next Level played to a one goal game at summer exposure.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/13/21 01:02 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to everyone in their tourney games this weekends

Great slate of Saturday games. FCA, Madlax doing well at NAL. curious to see a mid Atlantic team play legacy that went 4-0 and if Madlax can close it out. Hawks and Next Level played to a one goal game at summer exposure.

Next Level has their number. Tomorrow will be a comeuppance.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/13/21 09:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to everyone in their tourney games this weekends

Great slate of Saturday games. FCA, Madlax doing well at NAL. curious to see a mid Atlantic team play legacy that went 4-0 and if Madlax can close it out. Hawks and Next Level played to a one goal game at summer exposure.

Next Level has their number. Tomorrow will be a comeuppance.

Well NL is clearly their best competition this year so... maybe.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/14/21 03:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The NAL field isn’t that strong. Madlax is good, FCA is pretty good, LIE and Legacy might be pretty good, and maybe the True National team is decent. But aren’t Team 91 Venom, Two Way, and Eclipse the best up north? Has Sweet Lax gotten a lot better?

I don’t think NAL is going to show much. Madlax should take that tournament. But the better northern teams aren’t there so will be hard to compare until there is more play.

91 venom definitely the best LI team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/14/21 10:47 AM
Scanning tourney machine after this weekend, looks like the three teams that are in the top tier are Madlax, Hawks, and Team 91 Venom.

Then there is a second tier that includes Legacy, BBL, Freedom, Next Level, True Annapolis, Express North, and FCA MD.

Mooselax, Rush, Eclipse, 2way, and Mad Dog National may also be in this group but have played fewer cross region games so far.

So I’d put the top 10 as follows, but 4-10 all seem pretty close in strength:

1. Hawks
2. Team 91 Venom
3. Madlax
4. Legacy
5. Express North
6. BBL
7. FCA
8. Next Level
9. True Annapolis
10. Freedom

Upcoming weekend has Young Guns (Hawks, True, and Crabs), US Club Lacrosse Jamboree (Next Level and Freedom), Summer Slam (FCA and BBL), and Lax Fest (Venom and several NY and CT teams). And then midweek next week Madlax plays a bunch of the Colorado and TX teams in Vail.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/14/21 11:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to everyone in their tourney games this weekends

Great slate of Saturday games. FCA, Madlax doing well at NAL. curious to see a mid Atlantic team play legacy that went 4-0 and if Madlax can close it out. Hawks and Next Level played to a one goal game at summer exposure.

Next Level has their number. Tomorrow will be a comeuppance.

Well NL is clearly their best competition this year so... maybe.

Nice try NL dad. 12-4 Hawks in the Championship. Backups scoring goals.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/14/21 01:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to everyone in their tourney games this weekends

Great slate of Saturday games. FCA, Madlax doing well at NAL. curious to see a mid Atlantic team play legacy that went 4-0 and if Madlax can close it out. Hawks and Next Level played to a one goal game at summer exposure.

Next Level has their number. Tomorrow will be a comeuppance.

Well NL is clearly their best competition this year so... maybe.

Nice try NL dad. 12-4 Hawks in the Championship. Backups scoring goals.

Im guessing that was a ML dad who said NL has their number.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/14/21 06:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Scanning tourney machine after this weekend, looks like the three teams that are in the top tier are Madlax, Hawks, and Team 91 Venom.

Then there is a second tier that includes Legacy, BBL, Freedom, Next Level, True Annapolis, Express North, and FCA MD.

Mooselax, Rush, Eclipse, 2way, and Mad Dog National may also be in this group but have played fewer cross region games so far.

So I’d put the top 10 as follows, but 4-10 all seem pretty close in strength:

1. Hawks
2. Team 91 Venom
3. Madlax
4. Legacy
5. Express North
6. BBL
7. FCA
8. Next Level
9. True Annapolis
10. Freedom

Upcoming weekend has Young Guns (Hawks, True, and Crabs), US Club Lacrosse Jamboree (Next Level and Freedom), Summer Slam (FCA and BBL), and Lax Fest (Venom and several NY and CT teams). And then midweek next week Madlax plays a bunch of the Colorado and TX teams in Vail.

Good list and Crabs is somewhere in the mix around the second tier as are a few of the New England teams that have not travelled yet. 2028 Madlax in Vail is very cool and will really provide a glimpse on non hotbed teams that can hang at the national level. It seems the biggest stage will be NLF in July.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/14/21 06:19 PM
Pretty good set of observations on this ranking of teams. Express North might be ranked a little too high, they were handled pretty well by Madlax over the weekend 9-2. BBL looks vastly improved... curious to know why 91 Venom would be ranked this high, they’ve yet to venture out of their backyard from what I can tell, just a couple of pedestrian wins against a LI Express Chucks team who had a poor showing at NAL (beaten badly by FCA, squeaked by some pretty weak teams, and didn’t play either of the top 2 teams in the event, Madlax and Legacy). That said, 91 is an incredible program and likely very, very good at 2028. Hopefully they’ll see Hawks and Madlax somewhere this summer, fun to see where they’ll stack up against one another...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/14/21 06:26 PM
91 will be in maryland next weekend and then at umass in july for nlf
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/14/21 10:01 PM
As a Hawks parent— would love to play 91 Venom!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/15/21 01:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Scanning tourney machine after this weekend, looks like the three teams that are in the top tier are Madlax, Hawks, and Team 91 Venom.

Then there is a second tier that includes Legacy, BBL, Freedom, Next Level, True Annapolis, Express North, and FCA MD.

Mooselax, Rush, Eclipse, 2way, and Mad Dog National may also be in this group but have played fewer cross region games so far.

So I’d put the top 10 as follows, but 4-10 all seem pretty close in strength:

1. Hawks
2. Team 91 Venom
3. Madlax
4. Legacy
5. Express North
6. BBL
7. FCA
8. Next Level
9. True Annapolis
10. Freedom

Upcoming weekend has Young Guns (Hawks, True, and Crabs), US Club Lacrosse Jamboree (Next Level and Freedom), Summer Slam (FCA and BBL), and Lax Fest (Venom and several NY and CT teams). And then midweek next week Madlax plays a bunch of the Colorado and TX teams in Vail.

Good list and Crabs is somewhere in the mix around the second tier as are a few of the New England teams that have not travelled yet. 2028 Madlax in Vail is very cool and will really provide a glimpse on non hotbed teams that can hang at the national level. It seems the biggest stage will be NLF in July.

I think 2Way is better than some of those other teams.

Good list though
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/15/21 03:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Scanning tourney machine after this weekend, looks like the three teams that are in the top tier are Madlax, Hawks, and Team 91 Venom.

Then there is a second tier that includes Legacy, BBL, Freedom, Next Level, True Annapolis, Express North, and FCA MD.

Mooselax, Rush, Eclipse, 2way, and Mad Dog National may also be in this group but have played fewer cross region games so far.

So I’d put the top 10 as follows, but 4-10 all seem pretty close in strength:

1. Hawks
2. Team 91 Venom
3. Madlax
4. Legacy
5. Express North
6. BBL
7. FCA
8. Next Level
9. True Annapolis
10. Freedom

Upcoming weekend has Young Guns (Hawks, True, and Crabs), US Club Lacrosse Jamboree (Next Level and Freedom), Summer Slam (FCA and BBL), and Lax Fest (Venom and several NY and CT teams). And then midweek next week Madlax plays a bunch of the Colorado and TX teams in Vail.

Good list and Crabs is somewhere in the mix around the second tier as are a few of the New England teams that have not travelled yet. 2028 Madlax in Vail is very cool and will really provide a glimpse on non hotbed teams that can hang at the national level. It seems the biggest stage will be NLF in July.

I think 2Way is better than some of those other teams.

Good list though

Agree 2way is a top team and FYI venom isn’t playing any quality teams this weekend
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/15/21 11:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Scanning tourney machine after this weekend, looks like the three teams that are in the top tier are Madlax, Hawks, and Team 91 Venom.

Then there is a second tier that includes Legacy, BBL, Freedom, Next Level, True Annapolis, Express North, and FCA MD.

Mooselax, Rush, Eclipse, 2way, and Mad Dog National may also be in this group but have played fewer cross region games so far.

So I’d put the top 10 as follows, but 4-10 all seem pretty close in strength:

1. Hawks
2. Team 91 Venom
3. Madlax
4. Legacy
5. Express North
6. BBL
7. FCA
8. Next Level
9. True Annapolis
10. Freedom

Upcoming weekend has Young Guns (Hawks, True, and Crabs), US Club Lacrosse Jamboree (Next Level and Freedom), Summer Slam (FCA and BBL), and Lax Fest (Venom and several NY and CT teams). And then midweek next week Madlax plays a bunch of the Colorado and TX teams in Vail.

Good list and Crabs is somewhere in the mix around the second tier as are a few of the New England teams that have not travelled yet. 2028 Madlax in Vail is very cool and will really provide a glimpse on non hotbed teams that can hang at the national level. It seems the biggest stage will be NLF in July.

I think 2Way is better than some of those other teams.

Good list though

Agree 2way is a top team and FYI venom isn’t playing any quality teams this weekend

Yeah, looks like The Tristar tournament this weekend will provide some good insight as to where many of the northern teams that haven’t played down here fit in (e.g., 2way, Eclipse, Mooselax) since several of the NAL teams are playing at Tristar. If 2way gets through a tournament with Legacy, BBL, and Express North, then they definitely belong in the top tier with Madlax and Hawks. Venom is hard to rank because they’ve played kind of a weird schedule. Looks like they are coming down here for the Millon event at HoCo in two weeks and the Millon site suggests that Next Level, BBL, and Freedom are also there. So that will be a decent comp. But July NLF will be a much better comp since it has Madlax and Hawks.

Who needs US Club rankings? It looks like random dads on the internet are doing a good job here!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/15/21 11:30 AM
i think its 2way, then 91, then legacy... we'll see this summer
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/15/21 04:16 PM
This is a solid list.

Unfortunately, the two best 2028 teams out west - 3d Dallas 2028 and 3d Colorado 2028 - aren't playing Vail, so Madlax will only get second tier western competition next week in Colorado. I'm sure it'll still be a fun trip though. If you want to measure the western competition, check this weekend's Denver Shootout on Tourney Machine.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/15/21 07:29 PM
Who has 2Way played this spring? Not questioning your ranking of these 3, just curious as I can’t find any events with the ‘28s.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/15/21 07:39 PM
The only two decent teams at the Denver Shootout are the two you mention— 3d Dallas and 3d Colorado, the rest are weak or even 2029. Alpha Elite came east last week and got blown out. Couple 29 teams in there too. Who makes this an accurate “measure of the western competition?” Nothing to learn whatsoever from this field of teams... Dallas and CO might have some decent games with one another, but there’s zero cross pollination that will give us a proper read....


For what it’s worth— the 3d Dallas kids teamed up with some other 3d kids from CO, NJ, and a few other spots for a “National” team in Orlando. They were good as an All Star team, but 0-2 against Madlax. Again, not a great barometer— but Denver Elite, Mad Dog Elite, and True National (another all star team from all of the True programs) should tell us at least something more than these two 3d teams playing one another in Denver.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/16/21 01:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Scanning tourney machine after this weekend, looks like the three teams that are in the top tier are Madlax, Hawks, and Team 91 Venom.

Then there is a second tier that includes Legacy, BBL, Freedom, Next Level, True Annapolis, Express North, and FCA MD.

Mooselax, Rush, Eclipse, 2way, and Mad Dog National may also be in this group but have played fewer cross region games so far.

So I’d put the top 10 as follows, but 4-10 all seem pretty close in strength:

1. Hawks
2. Team 91 Venom
3. Madlax
4. Legacy
5. Express North
6. BBL
7. FCA
8. Next Level
9. True Annapolis
10. Freedom

Upcoming weekend has Young Guns (Hawks, True, and Crabs), US Club Lacrosse Jamboree (Next Level and Freedom), Summer Slam (FCA and BBL), and Lax Fest (Venom and several NY and CT teams). And then midweek next week Madlax plays a bunch of the Colorado and TX teams in Vail.

Good list and Crabs is somewhere in the mix around the second tier as are a few of the New England teams that have not travelled yet. 2028 Madlax in Vail is very cool and will really provide a glimpse on non hotbed teams that can hang at the national level. It seems the biggest stage will be NLF in July.

I think 2Way is better than some of those other teams.

Good list though

Agree 2way is a top team and FYI venom isn’t playing any quality teams this weekend

Yeah, looks like The Tristar tournament this weekend will provide some good insight as to where many of the northern teams that haven’t played down here fit in (e.g., 2way, Eclipse, Mooselax) since several of the NAL teams are playing at Tristar. If 2way gets through a tournament with Legacy, BBL, and Express North, then they definitely belong in the top tier with Madlax and Hawks. Venom is hard to rank because they’ve played kind of a weird schedule. Looks like they are coming down here for the Millon event at HoCo in two weeks and the Millon site suggests that Next Level, BBL, and Freedom are also there. So that will be a decent comp. But July NLF will be a much better comp since it has Madlax and Hawks.

Who needs US Club rankings? It looks like random dads on the internet are doing a good job here!

Nothing to add I just love this post
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/16/21 03:04 AM
Any Madlax/Next Level/True/Hawks parents willing to put it out there (anon of course) that they are looking to change teams this fall at tryouts?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/16/21 03:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Scanning tourney machine after this weekend, looks like the three teams that are in the top tier are Madlax, Hawks, and Team 91 Venom.

Then there is a second tier that includes Legacy, BBL, Freedom, Next Level, True Annapolis, Express North, and FCA MD.

Mooselax, Rush, Eclipse, 2way, and Mad Dog National may also be in this group but have played fewer cross region games so far.

So I’d put the top 10 as follows, but 4-10 all seem pretty close in strength:

1. Hawks
2. Team 91 Venom
3. Madlax
4. Legacy
5. Express North
6. BBL
7. FCA
8. Next Level
9. True Annapolis
10. Freedom

Upcoming weekend has Young Guns (Hawks, True, and Crabs), US Club Lacrosse Jamboree (Next Level and Freedom), Summer Slam (FCA and BBL), and Lax Fest (Venom and several NY and CT teams). And then midweek next week Madlax plays a bunch of the Colorado and TX teams in Vail.

Do rebels rank??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/16/21 11:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any Madlax/Next Level/True/Hawks parents willing to put it out there (anon of course) that they are looking to change teams this fall at tryouts?

My son’s good. Loves his coaches and teammates. - Hawks Dad
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/16/21 12:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any Madlax/Next Level/True/Hawks parents willing to put it out there (anon of course) that they are looking to change teams this fall at tryouts?

Kids change programs every year. What’s the intent of the question?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/17/21 12:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any Madlax/Next Level/True/Hawks parents willing to put it out there (anon of course) that they are looking to change teams this fall at tryouts?

I think I can speak for most Hawks parents, no shot we leave. There is no other team other than True, I guess, that they could go to and play at that level that’s near Annapolis. I love Hogan, no bs, just hard love.

My kid loves the coach as do I. I’m sure a kid or two will leave to play more but even then the coach plays everyone every game and they are practicing with the best. Even the kids at the end of the bench are contributing and getting better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/17/21 02:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any Madlax/Next Level/True/Hawks parents willing to put it out there (anon of course) that they are looking to change teams this fall at tryouts?

I think I can speak for most Hawks parents, no shot we leave. There is no other team other than True, I guess, that they could go to and play at that level that’s near Annapolis. I love Hogan, no bs, just hard love.

My kid loves the coach as do I. I’m sure a kid or two will leave to play more but even then the coach plays everyone every game and they are practicing with the best. Even the kids at the end of the bench are contributing and getting better.

Would you care to answer? Does your kid play? is he one of those on the end of the roster or like a big contributor? I see mentioned before the Hawks brought down some kids that were playing 27s. I only ask because we’d consider a move but want to see the dynamic
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/17/21 03:44 AM
Looking back at this thread, Hawks were ranked 3rd-5th by everyone, folks said Hawks had the best goalie but not sure they could put points on the board. They lost 3-1 to NL in the fall. Then, win HOCO and Summer Exposure with the same fall roster. Might be a top team in the country - after beating Madlax 3x. Hawks try out 7/31…who’s in?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 01:22 AM
Serious question though: why are the Hawks so good at every level? I know they have lots of parent coaches. What's the secret sauce?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 01:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any Madlax/Next Level/True/Hawks parents willing to put it out there (anon of course) that they are looking to change teams this fall at tryouts?

I think I can speak for most Hawks parents, no shot we leave. There is no other team other than True, I guess, that they could go to and play at that level that’s near Annapolis. I love Hogan, no bs, just hard love.

My kid loves the coach as do I. I’m sure a kid or two will leave to play more but even then the coach plays everyone every game and they are practicing with the best. Even the kids at the end of the bench are contributing and getting better.

Would you care to answer? Does your kid play? is he one of those on the end of the roster or like a big contributor? I see mentioned before the Hawks brought down some kids that were playing 27s. I only ask because we’d consider a move but want to see the dynamic

He contributes but there are a lot of contributors. Kids are starting to move to more specialized roles, scorers, distributors, defensive middies etc. there isn’t really a “best middie” or “best attacker” like when they were younger. There were a lot of kids who came from other teams, not just down from 27. We’re glad they came, no big deal. The culture comes from the club director, but the coaches are all great in different ways. They work the kids hard and but also love the kids, just the way I would want it.

My kids have played for several club teams, this has been the best situation. I’m sure there are other great spots, but my kid is happy and getting better. What else is there?

I just hope he makes it next year LOL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 01:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Serious question though: why are the Hawks so good at every level? I know they have lots of parent coaches. What's the secret sauce?

No fancy social media. Haven’t changed uniforms in years. Practice at AACC’s crappy dirt fields. Somebody please enlighten us...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 02:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Serious question though: why are the Hawks so good at every level? I know they have lots of parent coaches. What's the secret sauce?

No fancy social media. Haven’t changed uniforms in years. Practice at AACC’s crappy dirt fields. Somebody please enlighten us...

The club director is great, it starts there with culture. No bs but he knows my 11 y/o by name and doesn’t really ever coach the team so I’m not even sure how he knows him.

There may be parent coaches, but they aren’t all parent coaches. And the parent coaches all played at the places you might want your kid to play. Navy, Maryland (lots), UMass, Penn, UNC (at least 2) etc etc so it’s not like some random dad coaching.

The last thing is the most obvious, they work the kids hard. No secrets. THe 28s started as a B team with maybe 3 or 4 legit A players and a bunch of 29s. Over the years the kids there got better and new kids were added each year. Now they are pretty good. The 27s walked on field as the best team on day one in 3rd grade, it depends on the team I guess.

The did change the uniforms… the trim went from black to green one year LOL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 03:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Serious question though: why are the Hawks so good at every level? I know they have lots of parent coaches. What's the secret sauce?

It starts with how they define success and how they define a great player.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 03:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Serious question though: why are the Hawks so good at every level? I know they have lots of parent coaches. What's the secret sauce?

No fancy social media. Haven’t changed uniforms in years. Practice at AACC’s crappy dirt fields. Somebody please enlighten us...

What I have noticed after several years is it doesn't matter what background the kids parents come from. On the field these kids are straight blue collar animals from top to bottom. The weak sort themselves out and as the kids get older the ones on other teams see it, parents see it and if your kid is good enough it's almost a natural progression in AA county. You will see Matt Hogan walking around at every level practice engaging the kids one on one. Hope that helps.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 10:09 AM
They are very well coached as others have said. They also draw kids from a very large are. And unlike the Baltimore and DC/Bethesda area they don’t have 4 or 5 other clubs competing for kids. They are hands down best in area and get all the top players and then coach them up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 01:43 PM
Why don't they seem to produce any of the top recruits each year, unlike other clubs? Am I wrong on that? It seems like the Hawks always have great teams focused on winning tournaments. But are they producing great players for high school?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why don't they seem to produce any of the top recruits each year, unlike other clubs? Am I wrong on that? It seems like the Hawks always have great teams focused on winning tournaments. But are they producing great players for high school?

I've never looked at other club's websites to check, but a quick look at this year's Hawks commits (2022) and it seems like they are doing ok.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 03:09 PM
Sure, but several of those players joined recently (e.g., Petro's boys). The question is more fundamental: do you join the Hawks to win club tournaments, or join because they will develop you into a player for the MIAA or beyond. It seems like only the former to me. But that's why I'm asking.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 03:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why don't they seem to produce any of the top recruits each year, unlike other clubs? Am I wrong on that? It seems like the Hawks always have great teams focused on winning tournaments. But are they producing great players for high school?

I've never looked at other club's websites to check, but a quick look at this year's Hawks commits (2022) and it seems like they are doing ok.

Hawks do a poor job in promoting this versus other clubs. If you check inside lacrosse Hawks do very well and the 2022 class was incredibly successful at the high school ranks. For 2022 alone a quick look at contributors - BL had two players, St John’s had 3-4 and the Spalding was almost all Hawks. St Mary’s and Severn have starters from Hawks teams as well. Going to be interesting in a post COVID recruitment cycle where the 23 and 24 class go and how they (and 25) all perform in high school. Hawks have not have Top 5 teams in every age until recently so who knows.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 03:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why don't they seem to produce any of the top recruits each year, unlike other clubs? Am I wrong on that? It seems like the Hawks always have great teams focused on winning tournaments. But are they producing great players for high school?

I've never looked at other club's websites to check, but a quick look at this year's Hawks commits (2022) and it seems like they are doing ok.

Hawks do a poor job in promoting this versus other clubs. If you check inside lacrosse Hawks do very well and the 2022 class was incredibly successful at the high school ranks. For 2022 alone a quick look at contributors - BL had two players, St John’s had 3-4 and the Spalding was almost all Hawks. St Mary’s and Severn have starters from Hawks teams as well. Going to be interesting in a post COVID recruitment cycle where the 23 and 24 class go and how they (and 25) all perform in high school. Hawks have not have Top 5 teams in every age until recently so who knows.

The 23 class of Hawks is very strong. They have players at St. Mary’s as well as Calvert Hall, LB, Severn, and various out of state high schools. They will have at least 8-10 D1 commits.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 07:01 PM
What clubs are getting beat by the Hawks in tournaments while sending more kids to better schools?

Honest question, but I can’t imagine there are too many. I’ve never gone to FCA’s website to check for example.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 07:19 PM
How often do the 28 Hawks practice? Just curious given that they seem so much patient with the ball and have a better sense of how to generate offense than some of the other 28 teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 08:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What clubs are getting beat by the Hawks in tournaments while sending more kids to better schools?

Honest question, but I can’t imagine there are too many. I’ve never gone to FCA’s website to check for example.

Madlax, 91md, crabs and are factories for getting kids recruited both into elite high school programs and college. Hawks, next level, and DCE (BLC) are also good since their teams play on a big stage and the kids get looks. FCA is linked with Calvert Hall and other catholic schools for different pathway. This is a 2028 board so a little bit of reality, it all changes with puberty. Some kids will remain but don’t choose a club based on current success, choose a situation where your son can get good coaching, get better in practices and enjoy some game reps. Burnout is very real so find a place where he can love the sport and make friends. If you get both of those winning is a bonus.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How often do the 28 Hawks practice? Just curious given that they seem so much patient with the ball and have a better sense of how to generate offense than some of the other 28 teams.

Cabell, they aren't going to give you practice film.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 09:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How often do the 28 Hawks practice? Just curious given that they seem so much patient with the ball and have a better sense of how to generate offense than some of the other 28 teams.


3 times a week, games on Sunday during HOCO

2 times a week currently
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 11:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any Madlax/Next Level/True/Hawks parents willing to put it out there (anon of course) that they are looking to change teams this fall at tryouts?

I think I can speak for most Hawks parents, no shot we leave. There is no other team other than True, I guess, that they could go to and play at that level that’s near Annapolis. I love Hogan, no bs, just hard love.

My kid loves the coach as do I. I’m sure a kid or two will leave to play more but even then the coach plays everyone every game and they are practicing with the best. Even the kids at the end of the bench are contributing and getting better.

Would you care to answer? Does your kid play? is he one of those on the end of the roster or like a big contributor? I see mentioned before the Hawks brought down some kids that were playing 27s. I only ask because we’d consider a move but want to see the dynamic

He contributes but there are a lot of contributors. Kids are starting to move to more specialized roles, scorers, distributors, defensive middies etc. there isn’t really a “best middie” or “best attacker” like when they were younger. There were a lot of kids who came from other teams, not just down from 27. We’re glad they came, no big deal. The culture comes from the club director, but the coaches are all great in different ways. They work the kids hard and but also love the kids, just the way I would want it.

My kids have played for several club teams, this has been the best situation. I’m sure there are other great spots, but my kid is happy and getting better. What else is there?

I just hope he makes it next year LOL.

They certainly have a best Middie, and they certainly have 1 or 2 Best attackers!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/18/21 11:44 PM
With 7-9 different scorers per game, Hawks use their attack and middies and have depth, which other teams don’t seem to have in this age group. From other’s posts, It sounds like a very talented group that has been playing together less than a year under unprecedented circumstances and, to date, have put it all on the field. There’s a lot to be excited about with that team as they are just starting out. I’m hoping my kid makes the team next year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/19/21 12:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With 7-9 different scorers per game, Hawks use their attack and middies and have depth, which other teams don’t seem to have in this age group. From other’s posts, It sounds like a very talented group that has been playing together less than a year under unprecedented circumstances and, to date, have put it all on the field. There’s a lot to be excited about with that team as they are just starting out. I’m hoping my kid makes the team next year.

Good luck to him. Tryouts are always fun.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/19/21 12:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any Madlax/Next Level/True/Hawks parents willing to put it out there (anon of course) that they are looking to change teams this fall at tryouts?

I think I can speak for most Hawks parents, no shot we leave. There is no other team other than True, I guess, that they could go to and play at that level that’s near Annapolis. I love Hogan, no bs, just hard love.

My kid loves the coach as do I. I’m sure a kid or two will leave to play more but even then the coach plays everyone every game and they are practicing with the best. Even the kids at the end of the bench are contributing and getting better.

Would you care to answer? Does your kid play? is he one of those on the end of the roster or like a big contributor? I see mentioned before the Hawks brought down some kids that were playing 27s. I only ask because we’d consider a move but want to see the dynamic

He contributes but there are a lot of contributors. Kids are starting to move to more specialized roles, scorers, distributors, defensive middies etc. there isn’t really a “best middie” or “best attacker” like when they were younger. There were a lot of kids who came from other teams, not just down from 27. We’re glad they came, no big deal. The culture comes from the club director, but the coaches are all great in different ways. They work the kids hard and but also love the kids, just the way I would want it.

My kids have played for several club teams, this has been the best situation. I’m sure there are other great spots, but my kid is happy and getting better. What else is there?

I just hope he makes it next year LOL.

They certainly have a best Middie, and they certainly have 1 or 2 Best attackers!

As a parent who has watched a lot, I don’t know who the best middie is.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/19/21 12:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With 7-9 different scorers per game, Hawks use their attack and middies and have depth, which other teams don’t seem to have in this age group. From other’s posts, It sounds like a very talented group that has been playing together less than a year under unprecedented circumstances and, to date, have put it all on the field. There’s a lot to be excited about with that team as they are just starting out. I’m hoping my kid makes the team next year.


Anonymously of course- who do you play for now?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/19/21 01:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With 7-9 different scorers per game, Hawks use their attack and middies and have depth, which other teams don’t seem to have in this age group. From other’s posts, It sounds like a very talented group that has been playing together less than a year under unprecedented circumstances and, to date, have put it all on the field. There’s a lot to be excited about with that team as they are just starting out. I’m hoping my kid makes the team next year.

Ok Hawks dad. We got you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/19/21 02:05 AM
This is what troubles me about the Hawks. At this age, why are they cutting kids and making it so cut throat to stay on the team. It doesn't say much about actual player development and helping kids out over time. It says a lot about just wanting to win tournaments in 6th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/19/21 11:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is what troubles me about the Hawks. At this age, why are they cutting kids and making it so cut throat to stay on the team. It doesn't say much about actual player development and helping kids out over time. It says a lot about just wanting to win tournaments in 6th grade.

Huh? Please find me the team that doesn’t cut if some big studs come to tryouts.

There isn’t one in the elite bracket.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/19/21 12:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is what troubles me about the Hawks. At this age, why are they cutting kids and making it so cut throat to stay on the team. It doesn't say much about actual player development and helping kids out over time. It says a lot about just wanting to win tournaments in 6th grade.

Then it’s not for you or your son.

It’s a 2 way street, I know some monster holdback could theoretically take my kids spot. That’s life. But I’m pretty confident he won’t have a hard time finding another team though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/19/21 02:56 PM
I guess. The kids are in 5th grade. Would expect that the teams would try and actually develop a player not just cut bait.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/19/21 04:22 PM
I hear what you’re saying but to say that a team doesn’t develop players because they cut some players is a bit of a head scratcher. If my kid gets cut then it’s likely because he’s not working or doing what he needs to do to get better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/19/21 07:23 PM
Then it’s not the team for you and I’m sure you’re very happy wherever you are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/19/21 09:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess. The kids are in 5th grade. Would expect that the teams would try and actually develop a player not just cut bait.

It’s made clear at the first tryout when they are in 2nd/3rd grade. I’m sure the other top team do it too, Crabs, NL, FCA and True.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/19/21 11:08 PM
Looks like the top 6 HoCo teams held serve today — going 13-1 across a few different tournaments with Madlax off until mid-week. Not much in the way of strong competition though.

Up north, looks like all the 2way people are right and that team is among the top tier of teams. Express North also had a nice day. BBL had a pretty good showing and so did Long Island Express. Legacy did not stay hot following the NAL final appearance. So I’m going to revise my bored MD dad rankings to:

1. Hawks
2. 2Way
3. Madlax
4. 91 Venom (difficult to tell where they go since they haven’t played many strong 28 teams yet this summer; playing in a 27 bracket at LaxFest and lost some games but 27 games are tough to compare)
5. Express North
6. BBL
7. Legacy
8. FCA MD
9. Next Level
10. Freedom (PA)
11. True Annapolis
12. Long Island Express
13. Crabs
14. Mooselax
15. Eclipse

Watchlist: 4 Leaf Army, Rebels, LI Rush
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/20/21 01:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the top 6 HoCo teams held serve today — going 13-1 across a few different tournaments with Madlax off until mid-week. Not much in the way of strong competition though.

Up north, looks like all the 2way people are right and that team is among the top tier of teams. Express North also had a nice day. BBL had a pretty good showing and so did Long Island Express. Legacy did not stay hot following the NAL final appearance. So I’m going to revise my bored MD dad rankings to:

1. Hawks
2. 2Way
3. Madlax
4. 91 Venom (difficult to tell where they go since they haven’t played many strong 28 teams yet this summer; playing in a 27 bracket at LaxFest and lost some games but 27 games are tough to compare)
5. Express North
6. BBL
7. Legacy
8. FCA MD
9. Next Level
10. Freedom (PA)
11. True Annapolis
12. Long Island Express
13. Crabs
14. Mooselax
15. Eclipse

Watchlist: 4 Leaf Army, Rebels, LI Rush

How do you know all this? Glad you do it, but until northern and southern team start playing each other it’s just a wild guess.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/20/21 01:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the top 6 HoCo teams held serve today — going 13-1 across a few different tournaments with Madlax off until mid-week. Not much in the way of strong competition though.

Up north, looks like all the 2way people are right and that team is among the top tier of teams. Express North also had a nice day. BBL had a pretty good showing and so did Long Island Express. Legacy did not stay hot following the NAL final appearance. So I’m going to revise my bored MD dad rankings to:

1. Hawks
2. 2Way
3. Madlax
4. 91 Venom (difficult to tell where they go since they haven’t played many strong 28 teams yet this summer; playing in a 27 bracket at LaxFest and lost some games but 27 games are tough to compare)
5. Express North
6. BBL
7. Legacy
8. FCA MD
9. Next Level
10. Freedom (PA)
11. True Annapolis
12. Long Island Express
13. Crabs
14. Mooselax
15. Eclipse

Watchlist: 4 Leaf Army, Rebels, LI Rush



You’re the Lax dad hero we’ve been waiting for. Nice list.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/20/21 01:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the top 6 HoCo teams held serve today — going 13-1 across a few different tournaments with Madlax off until mid-week. Not much in the way of strong competition though.

Up north, looks like all the 2way people are right and that team is among the top tier of teams. Express North also had a nice day. BBL had a pretty good showing and so did Long Island Express. Legacy did not stay hot following the NAL final appearance. So I’m going to revise my bored MD dad rankings to:

1. Hawks
2. 2Way
3. Madlax
4. 91 Venom (difficult to tell where they go since they haven’t played many strong 28 teams yet this summer; playing in a 27 bracket at LaxFest and lost some games but 27 games are tough to compare)
5. Express North
6. BBL
7. Legacy
8. FCA MD
9. Next Level
10. Freedom (PA)
11. True Annapolis
12. Long Island Express
13. Crabs
14. Mooselax
15. Eclipse

Watchlist: 4 Leaf Army, Rebels, LI Rush

How do you know all this? Glad you do it, but until northern and southern team start playing each other it’s just a wild guess.

Legacy was missing 3-4 kids. Wouldn’t judge much from their games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/20/21 02:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the top 6 HoCo teams held serve today — going 13-1 across a few different tournaments with Madlax off until mid-week. Not much in the way of strong competition though.

Up north, looks like all the 2way people are right and that team is among the top tier of teams. Express North also had a nice day. BBL had a pretty good showing and so did Long Island Express. Legacy did not stay hot following the NAL final appearance. So I’m going to revise my bored MD dad rankings to:

1. Hawks
2. 2Way
3. Madlax
4. 91 Venom (difficult to tell where they go since they haven’t played many strong 28 teams yet this summer; playing in a 27 bracket at LaxFest and lost some games but 27 games are tough to compare)
5. Express North
6. BBL
7. Legacy
8. FCA MD
9. Next Level
10. Freedom (PA)
11. True Annapolis
12. Long Island Express
13. Crabs
14. Mooselax
15. Eclipse

Watchlist: 4 Leaf Army, Rebels, LI Rush

How do you know all this? Glad you do it, but until northern and southern team start playing each other it’s just a wild guess.

Legacy was missing 3-4 kids. Wouldn’t judge much from their games.

Typical LI excuses
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 12:04 AM
This is a better list with some updates. Mid Atlantic much stronger than LI this age . True is a dumpster fire.

1. Hawks
2. 2Way
3. Madlax
4. 91 Venom
5. Legacy
6. Crabs
7. BBL
8. FCA MD
9. Express North
10. Next Level
11. Freedom (PA)
12. Eclipse
13. Long Island Express
14. Mooselax
15.True Annapolis
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 01:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is a better list with some updates. Mid Atlantic much stronger than LI this age . True is a dumpster fire.

1. Hawks
2. 2Way
3. Madlax
4. 91 Venom
5. Legacy
6. Crabs
7. BBL
8. FCA MD
9. Express North
10. Next Level
11. Freedom (PA)
12. Eclipse
13. Long Island Express
14. Mooselax
15.True Annapolis

How do you have legacy over bbl
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 01:44 AM
2Way just got blown out by BBL today. Stop putting them up top... Madlax and Hawks are ahead of the pack, with Hawks on top for the time being— although, they had a squeaker today with True Annapolis.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 02:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2Way just got blown out by BBL today. Stop putting them up top... Madlax and Hawks are ahead of the pack, with Hawks on top for the time being— although, they had a squeaker today with True Annapolis.

Is MadLax really that good?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 02:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2Way just got blown out by BBL today. Stop putting them up top... Madlax and Hawks are ahead of the pack, with Hawks on top for the time being— although, they had a squeaker today with True Annapolis.


Great chance the Crabs and refs were hoping to see True, not the Hawks in today’s Young Guns final. Hawks were man down 7 (7!!!!) times in the game and still found a way to win. 12 noon on 93 degree turf. Hawks dug one out. Probably more of a info is toon of a tough team than a knock.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 03:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is a better list with some updates. Mid Atlantic much stronger than LI this age . True is a dumpster fire.

1. Hawks
2. 2Way
3. Madlax
4. 91 Venom
5. Legacy
6. Crabs
7. BBL
8. FCA MD
9. Express North
10. Next Level
11. Freedom (PA)
12. Eclipse
13. Long Island Express
14. Mooselax
15.True Annapolis

Didn’t crabs win one game in Hoco? lol sure crabs dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 04:02 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is a better list with some updates. Mid Atlantic much stronger than LI this age . True is a dumpster fire.

1. Hawks
2. 2Way
3. Madlax
4. 91 Venom
5. Legacy
6. Crabs
7. BBL
8. FCA MD
9. Express North
10. Next Level
11. Freedom (PA)
12. Eclipse
13. Long Island Express
14. Mooselax
15.True Annapolis

Not a True parent, but they beat NL and FCA. They also took the Hawks to overtime. How many teams on that list have been that close to the Hawks the last time they played?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 11:15 AM
Congrats to BBL, Freedom, Hawks, and FCA on winning championships this weekend! But Sunday showed that there is a lot of parity between the top 15 or so teams on the East Coast. I also think there is a lot of north-south parity between MD and NY/CT/NJ based on the play so far. 6-13 could really be in any order. All of those teams have some strong wins. No team outside the MD to CT corridor has yet shown it can consistently compete with the top East Coast teams. But maybe Vail or Naptown (which has some non hot bed teams playing) will surprise us.

Here’s my revised Bored MD Dad rankings:

1. Hawks
2. Madlax
3. BBL
4. Team 91 Venom (just throwing darts here, who knows?)
5. 2way
6. FCA
7. Freedom PA
8. Express North
9. Next Level
10. Legacy
11. Mooselax
12. True Annapolis
13. Long Island Express
14. Crabs
15. LI Rush/Mad Dog West?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 12:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2Way just got blown out by BBL today. Stop putting them up top... Madlax and Hawks are ahead of the pack, with Hawks on top for the time being— although, they had a squeaker today with True Annapolis.


Great chance the Crabs and refs were hoping to see True, not the Hawks in today’s Young Guns final. Hawks were man down 7 (7!!!!) times in the game and still found a way to win. 12 noon on 93 degree turf. Hawks dug one out. Probably more of a info is toon of a tough team than a knock.

True played them tough and had two goals taken away in the game that were more than questionable. I am not a True dad but they have improved a lot. I do not know anything about their organization but the only thing I saw were a couple Hawks dads acting like fools. If you look at thing objectively I think Truie is better than they are getting credit for.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 12:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is a better list with some updates. Mid Atlantic much stronger than LI this age . True is a dumpster fire.

1. Hawks
2. 2Way
3. Madlax
4. 91 Venom
5. Legacy
6. Crabs
7. BBL
8. FCA MD
9. Express North
10. Next Level
11. Freedom (PA)
12. Eclipse
13. Long Island Express
14. Mooselax
15.True Annapolis

Not a True parent, but they beat NL and FCA. They also took the Hawks to overtime. How many teams on that list have been that close to the Hawks the last time they played?

Just out of curiosity why the detest for True Annapolis? We played them a couple times this year and they are scrappy....They beat Freedom twice, beat BBL once and lost to BBL in OT, had good game with Legacy and lost in OT. Took Hawks to the brink and lost in OT. Is it an organizational thing? I don't know too much about the organization other than they seem to be everywhere.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 02:36 PM
when is the schedule coming out for Millon tourney?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 02:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2Way just got blown out by BBL today. Stop putting them up top... Madlax and Hawks are ahead of the pack, with Hawks on top for the time being— although, they had a squeaker today with True Annapolis.


Great chance the Crabs and refs were hoping to see True, not the Hawks in today’s Young Guns final. Hawks were man down 7 (7!!!!) times in the game and still found a way to win. 12 noon on 93 degree turf. Hawks dug one out. Probably more of a info is toon of a tough team than a knock.

True played them tough and had two goals taken away in the game that were more than questionable. I am not a True dad but they have improved a lot. I do not know anything about their organization but the only thing I saw were a couple Hawks dads acting like fools. If you look at thing objectively I think Truie is better than they are getting credit for.

No goals taken away. They were actually given a goal by the refs who, along with the kid running the table and clock, didn’t remove the goal scored after True got the ball on a delayed penalty. I’m with you on dads acting notIntelligent, but that was on both sides. Two True dads were yelling nonstop adding trash talk to the end of every encouragement for their 11 year old sons. If you’re going to tell “he can’t go right” every time a kid touches the ball then you’re going to hear from a dad eventually. When a Hawk got run over everyone was carrying on high-fiving. Don’t get upset when a couple dads give it back when the game flips. True had the game won and didn’t finish. They also lost to the Blue Claws. Keep it together.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is a better list with some updates. Mid Atlantic much stronger than LI this age . True is a dumpster fire.

1. Hawks
2. 2Way
3. Madlax
4. 91 Venom
5. Legacy
6. Crabs
7. BBL
8. FCA MD
9. Express North
10. Next Level
11. Freedom (PA)
12. Eclipse
13. Long Island Express
14. Mooselax
15.True Annapolis

Not a True parent, but they beat NL and FCA. They also took the Hawks to overtime. How many teams on that list have been that close to the Hawks the last time they played?

Just out of curiosity why the detest for True Annapolis? We played them a couple times this year and they are scrappy....They beat Freedom twice, beat BBL once and lost to BBL in OT, had good game with Legacy and lost in OT. Took Hawks to the brink and lost in OT. Is it an organizational thing? I don't know too much about the organization other than they seem to be everywhere.

This list came from a Crabs dad and is not the list from Bored MD Dad that we know and love. That guy has too much time on his hands but produces pretty good lists! Crabs at 6 doesn’t make sense. True is a good team. They are in mix with the top teams other than Madlax and Hawks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 03:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2Way just got blown out by BBL today. Stop putting them up top... Madlax and Hawks are ahead of the pack, with Hawks on top for the time being— although, they had a squeaker today with True Annapolis.


Great chance the Crabs and refs were hoping to see True, not the Hawks in today’s Young Guns final. Hawks were man down 7 (7!!!!) times in the game and still found a way to win. 12 noon on 93 degree turf. Hawks dug one out. Probably more of a info is toon of a tough team than a knock.

True played them tough and had two goals taken away in the game that were more than questionable. I am not a True dad but they have improved a lot. I do not know anything about their organization but the only thing I saw were a couple Hawks dads acting like fools. If you look at thing objectively I think Truie is better than they are getting credit for.

No goals taken away. They were actually given a goal by the refs who, along with the kid running the table and clock, didn’t remove the goal scored after True got the ball on a delayed penalty. I’m with you on dads acting notIntelligent, but that was on both sides. Two True dads were yelling nonstop adding trash talk to the end of every encouragement for their 11 year old sons. If you’re going to tell “he can’t go right” every time a kid touches the ball then you’re going to hear from a dad eventually. When a Hawk got run over everyone was carrying on high-fiving. Don’t get upset when a couple dads give it back when the game flips. True had the game won and didn’t finish. They also lost to the Blue Claws. Keep it together.

Sad to hear that Dads think it is ok to yell "he can't go right" and cheer when kids get run over. I bet those are the Dads who did not play the game themselves. Those who did usually conduct themselves better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2Way just got blown out by BBL today. Stop putting them up top... Madlax and Hawks are ahead of the pack, with Hawks on top for the time being— although, they had a squeaker today with True Annapolis.


Great chance the Crabs and refs were hoping to see True, not the Hawks in today’s Young Guns final. Hawks were man down 7 (7!!!!) times in the game and still found a way to win. 12 noon on 93 degree turf. Hawks dug one out. Probably more of a info is toon of a tough team than a knock.

True played them tough and had two goals taken away in the game that were more than questionable. I am not a True dad but they have improved a lot. I do not know anything about their organization but the only thing I saw were a couple Hawks dads acting like fools. If you look at thing objectively I think Truie is better than they are getting credit for.

No goals taken away. They were actually given a goal by the refs who, along with the kid running the table and clock, didn’t remove the goal scored after True got the ball on a delayed penalty. I’m with you on dads acting notIntelligent, but that was on both sides. Two True dads were yelling nonstop adding trash talk to the end of every encouragement for their 11 year old sons. If you’re going to tell “he can’t go right” every time a kid touches the ball then you’re going to hear from a dad eventually. When a Hawk got run over everyone was carrying on high-fiving. Don’t get upset when a couple dads give it back when the game flips. True had the game won and didn’t finish. They also lost to the Blue Claws. Keep it together.

I was referring to the point that they scored two goals and had them removed...either legit or not, they were playing well. You are correct they did not finish the game well, they had it in their reach but could not get it done. I did not hear a lot of negativity from either side until parents close to the field for the Hawks started yelling expletives towards the other parents. That was low class. Yelling "make him go right" is hardly a negative comment...that is strategy of the game, if you notice a kid goes left better than right...I don't know of any team that would not say it. It was a high energy game, if a kid gets run over trying to initiate contact then cheering for that is not a bad thing. For the most part I thought the parents were getting along fine in that game and it was good sportsmanship on both sides. The Hawks have a great team and they are very good....my only point was True looks better than they are getting credit for and I was not sure if there was something I am missing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 05:22 PM
True is definitely a good team but just inconsistent which lets people make a narrative whichever way they want.

True is good - they took the Hawks to OT
True is bad - Crabs beat them bad or Blue Claws beat them
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 05:24 PM
There is a difference between yelling "he can't go right" and "make him go left," in a fifth grade game.

But either way, it is the coaches' job to instruct the boys in-game, not the parents. Try to relax and enjoy the games without coaching from the sidelines.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 07:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is a difference between yelling "he can't go right" and "make him go left," in a fifth grade game.

But either way, it is the coaches' job to instruct the boys in-game, not the parents. Try to relax and enjoy the games without coaching from the sidelines.

Well said and lots of respect for both teams players, hard fought game. For those tuning in, these kids have been playing against each other forever and the games always feel personal between the parents and some of the players. The sideline coaching from True was incessant but hey, the kid scored righty in OT so maybe leave the “strategy” to someone else and just enjoy the games?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is a difference between yelling "he can't go right" and "make him go left," in a fifth grade game.

But either way, it is the coaches' job to instruct the boys in-game, not the parents. Try to relax and enjoy the games without coaching from the sidelines.

Well said and lots of respect for both teams players, hard fought game. For those tuning in, these kids have been playing against each other forever and the games always feel personal between the parents and some of the players. The sideline coaching from True was incessant but hey, the kid scored righty in OT so maybe leave the “strategy” to someone else and just enjoy the games?


hahahaha.... RTPARKER
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 09:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is a difference between yelling "he can't go right" and "make him go left," in a fifth grade game.

But either way, it is the coaches' job to instruct the boys in-game, not the parents. Try to relax and enjoy the games without coaching from the sidelines.

Well said and lots of respect for both teams players, hard fought game. For those tuning in, these kids have been playing against each other forever and the games always feel personal between the parents and some of the players. The sideline coaching from True was incessant but hey, the kid scored righty in OT so maybe leave the “strategy” to someone else and just enjoy the games?


hahahaha.... RTPARKER


Actually a different lefty scored the game winner— gotta get your stories straight.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 10:00 PM
True lost to Blue Claw. A glorified Rec team. Some of these people need to get their heads checked.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 10:29 PM
Y’all can’t be dropping names in here. That’s kinda lame. Especially anonymously.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 10:52 PM
Following along with Madlax out in Vail. Looks like the competition isn’t that great. Maybe Mad Dog will give them a game out there. Couple of those teams playing in Naptown next week
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/21/21 11:11 PM
With the recent success of the Hawks in this age group—- it only seems inevitable that they will continue to be good and grow better as the year go by. Some of these “anon” posters in here better grow a pair and get used to it. Same goes for the Madlax teams. They are only going to get better. Seems like the posters that come in here are trying to cling to something that’s not sustainable— like True.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 12:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With the recent success of the Hawks in this age group—- it only seems inevitable that they will continue to be good and grow better as the year go by. Some of these “anon” posters in here better grow a pair and get used to it. Same goes for the Madlax teams. They are only going to get better. Seems like the posters that come in here are trying to cling to something that’s not sustainable— like True.

That’s just it - it’s recent. Hawks were a nice team a year ago but certainly weren’t viewed as the best in HoCo let alone the country. Who knows what shakes out next year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 12:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With the recent success of the Hawks in this age group—- it only seems inevitable that they will continue to be good and grow better as the year go by. Some of these “anon” posters in here better grow a pair and get used to it. Same goes for the Madlax teams. They are only going to get better. Seems like the posters that come in here are trying to cling to something that’s not sustainable— like True.

That’s just it - it’s recent. Hawks were a nice team a year ago but certainly weren’t viewed as the best in HoCo let alone the country. Who knows what shakes out next year.

Hawks tryouts on 7/31 should be interesting. Expecting to see a lot of new different helmets on the Severn School turf.

Will we see a Madlax stud trying out? Maybe a few True kids- can’t beat Em might as well join em, hearing FCA is on verge of imploding at both the ‘27 and ‘28 age years. There’s always a few sidewinders, Annapolis based clubs and Green hornets helmets.

If I’m the best player at True, or Madlax or Crabs and I can swing the commute, I’m definitely trying to latch on to this Hawks team and ride the next 4-5 years until
Recruitment age
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 12:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With the recent success of the Hawks in this age group—- it only seems inevitable that they will continue to be good and grow better as the year go by. Some of these “anon” posters in here better grow a pair and get used to it. Same goes for the Madlax teams. They are only going to get better. Seems like the posters that come in here are trying to cling to something that’s not sustainable— like True.

That’s just it - it’s recent. Hawks were a nice team a year ago but certainly weren’t viewed as the best in HoCo let alone the country. Who knows what shakes out next year.

Agreed. Victories are earned and nothing is inevitable. That kind of thinking leads to losses. Maybe the Hawks stay on top or maybe another of the HoCo elite teams with similar athletes outworks them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 01:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With the recent success of the Hawks in this age group—- it only seems inevitable that they will continue to be good and grow better as the year go by. Some of these “anon” posters in here better grow a pair and get used to it. Same goes for the Madlax teams. They are only going to get better. Seems like the posters that come in here are trying to cling to something that’s not sustainable— like True.

That’s just it - it’s recent. Hawks were a nice team a year ago but certainly weren’t viewed as the best in HoCo let alone the country. Who knows what shakes out next year.

Hawks tryouts on 7/31 should be interesting. Expecting to see a lot of new different helmets on the Severn School turf.

Will we see a Madlax stud trying out? Maybe a few True kids- can’t beat Em might as well join em, hearing FCA is on verge of imploding at both the ‘27 and ‘28 age years. There’s always a few sidewinders, Annapolis based clubs and Green hornets helmets.

If I’m the best player at True, or Madlax or Crabs and I can swing the commute, I’m definitely trying to latch on to this Hawks team and ride the next 4-5 years until
Recruitment age


Heard the Kelly family running some folks away from FCA.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 01:35 AM
Why? How does riding the next 4-5 years help the best player at True, or Madlax or Crabs? So that kid is on a team that wins a lot and people on forums fawn over. Are the coaches really THAT much better than the Crabs or Madlax so the "best player" on Crabs will improve at such a different rate it will make a difference? The Hawks are great because they have a great TEAM and system, and everything they do is about winning games. There are plenty of recruits from club teams that are not in the top flight--they are just good players.

Again, if all you care about is winning youth lacrosse tournaments, then for sure Hawks are key. But if you want your kid to develop as a player and try to get recruited, there are lots of good options.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 02:30 AM
Next Level gets a crack at 91 Venom. Should be interesting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 02:55 AM
How does the Millon field look this weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 03:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With the recent success of the Hawks in this age group—- it only seems inevitable that they will continue to be good and grow better as the year go by. Some of these “anon” posters in here better grow a pair and get used to it. Same goes for the Madlax teams. They are only going to get better. Seems like the posters that come in here are trying to cling to something that’s not sustainable— like True.

That’s just it - it’s recent. Hawks were a nice team a year ago but certainly weren’t viewed as the best in HoCo let alone the country. Who knows what shakes out next year.

Hawks tryouts on 7/31 should be interesting. Expecting to see a lot of new different helmets on the Severn School turf.

Will we see a Madlax stud trying out? Maybe a few True kids- can’t beat Em might as well join em, hearing FCA is on verge of imploding at both the ‘27 and ‘28 age years. There’s always a few sidewinders, Annapolis based clubs and Green hornets helmets.

If I’m the best player at True, or Madlax or Crabs and I can swing the commute, I’m definitely trying to latch on to this Hawks team and ride the next 4-5 years until
Recruitment age

Can't wait to see how those hawks 26 and 27 do at 28! Some players need to earn some cash to keep the feds off their back too!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 10:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How does the Millon field look this weekend?

It’s an interesting field. 4 good teams - Team 91 Venom, BBL, Philadelphia Freedom, and Next Level.

3 weaker teams - Team 91 MD, Cavs, and BLC

1 unknown - 7 Flames from Georgia.

It will be interesting to see if 91 can blitz through and win it. It won’t settle the debate with Hawks or Madlax, but it should provide some sense of how good Venom is.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 11:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Next Level gets a crack at 91 Venom. Should be interesting.


Where’s bored lax dad and his rankings— this should help!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 12:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With the recent success of the Hawks in this age group—- it only seems inevitable that they will continue to be good and grow better as the year go by. Some of these “anon” posters in here better grow a pair and get used to it. Same goes for the Madlax teams. They are only going to get better. Seems like the posters that come in here are trying to cling to something that’s not sustainable— like True.

That’s just it - it’s recent. Hawks were a nice team a year ago but certainly weren’t viewed as the best in HoCo let alone the country. Who knows what shakes out next year.

Hawks tryouts on 7/31 should be interesting. Expecting to see a lot of new different helmets on the Severn School turf.

Will we see a Madlax stud trying out? Maybe a few True kids- can’t beat Em might as well join em, hearing FCA is on verge of imploding at both the ‘27 and ‘28 age years. There’s always a few sidewinders, Annapolis based clubs and Green hornets helmets.

If I’m the best player at True, or Madlax or Crabs and I can swing the commute, I’m definitely trying to latch on to this Hawks team and ride the next 4-5 years until
Recruitment age


Zero chance anyone from fca 27 goes to hawks. But don’t worry you guys will get some 27 hawks dropping down again so it will work out for you. This is the perfect year for all those parents that want kid to be Mr all American to re class.[/quote]


Not sure how you correlated FCA 27 going to 28 hawks or another 28 squads. That would be a weird jump. I read it as the FCA squads moving around to other Baltimore clubs, but whatever. FCA should pray on it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 03:01 PM
My son plays for True, and I’m slightly appalled by the behavior of some of the parents in here. You put somebody’s name on here? You’re calling kids out directly? I understand why people detest Madlax. Or the Hawks. Whatever.... get over it. Get better. Everyone thinks they have the magic formula. This will all mean nothing in years to come. There’s players who are marginal now, that will be HS studs.

Grow up people. Anonymous isn’t always such. Remember, the internet is forever. You post, it records your IP address. From your registered phone or computer. Threaten someone on here or disparage their name- everything can be subpoenaed. It’s 2021. New age.

How about we instead pick on the New York people in their board?? Hahah

Go True
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son plays for True, and I’m slightly appalled by the behavior of some of the parents in here. You put somebody’s name on here? You’re calling kids out directly? I understand why people detest Madlax. Or the Hawks. Whatever.... get over it. Get better. Everyone thinks they have the magic formula. This will all mean nothing in years to come. There’s players who are marginal now, that will be HS studs.

Grow up people. Anonymous isn’t always such. Remember, the internet is forever. You post, it records your IP address. From your registered phone or computer. Threaten someone on here or disparage their name- everything can be subpoenaed. It’s 2021. New age.

How about we instead pick on the New York people in their board?? Hahah

Go True

Thx True lawyer dad, but def agree we should be picking on the New York teams ( parents are waaaaaay worse in years past)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 05:26 PM
How come so many teams are having their tryouts in July this year? Wasnt August usually when tryouts occurred?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True lost to Blue Claw. A glorified Rec team. Some of these people need to get their heads checked.

You guys love beating up on True so much that you sometimes lose sight of reality.

True was very solid this spring and the Blue Claws looked good this spring too. Pretty sure they were the #1 team in HoCo AAA and had kids from Crabs, FCA and other "elites".

There are few elite teams out there, but a lot of very good ones. Tone it down a bit with the vitriol.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 06:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True lost to Blue Claw. A glorified Rec team. Some of these people need to get their heads checked.

You guys love beating up on True so much that you sometimes lose sight of reality.

True was very solid this spring and the Blue Claws looked good this spring too. Pretty sure they were the #1 team in HoCo AAA and had kids from Crabs, FCA and other "elites".

There are few elite teams out there, but a lot of very good ones. Tone it down a bit with the vitriol.

Blue Claws is definitely a good team, winning AAA is a pretty solid accomplishment.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 06:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True lost to Blue Claw. A glorified Rec team. Some of these people need to get their heads checked.

You guys love beating up on True so much that you sometimes lose sight of reality.

True was very solid this spring and the Blue Claws looked good this spring too. Pretty sure they were the #1 team in HoCo AAA and had kids from Crabs, FCA and other "elites".

There are few elite teams out there, but a lot of very good ones. Tone it down a bit with the vitriol.


It’s my experience that the ones who detest True the most, are generally ex-True people. Elite teams generally
Don’t despise b- level or lower level clubs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/22/21 10:32 PM
Yea with all the other 13 year olds playing in 10/11 year olds division.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/23/21 01:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True lost to Blue Claw. A glorified Rec team. Some of these people need to get their heads checked.

You guys love beating up on True so much that you sometimes lose sight of reality.

True was very solid this spring and the Blue Claws looked good this spring too. Pretty sure they were the #1 team in HoCo AAA and had kids from Crabs, FCA and other "elites".

There are few elite teams out there, but a lot of very good ones. Tone it down a bit with the vitriol.


It’s my experience that the ones who detest True the most, are generally ex-True people. Elite teams generally
Don’t despise b- level or lower level clubs.


The most justified complaints I have seen about True is that they lured away people from other clubs, promised great coaches and practice. Failed to deliver. Now that original club team is worse off w/o those kids and they lost that time with a bad exp.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/23/21 02:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True lost to Blue Claw. A glorified Rec team. Some of these people need to get their heads checked.

You guys love beating up on True so much that you sometimes lose sight of reality.

True was very solid this spring and the Blue Claws looked good this spring too. Pretty sure they were the #1 team in HoCo AAA and had kids from Crabs, FCA and other "elites".

There are few elite teams out there, but a lot of very good ones. Tone it down a bit with the vitriol.


It’s my experience that the ones who detest True the most, are generally ex-True people. Elite teams generally
Don’t despise b- level or lower level clubs.


The most justified complaints I have seen about True is that they lured away people from other clubs, promised great coaches and practice. Failed to deliver. Now that original club team is worse off w/o those kids and they lost that time with a bad exp.

Yup. I constantly received calls to leave our “lesser” club in order to play for True and have a shot at their “national” team. Nope...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/23/21 02:50 AM
Blue claws didn’t win AAA - but they are a good team. They are just as old as the elite teams so there is that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/23/21 03:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True lost to Blue Claw. A glorified Rec team. Some of these people need to get their heads checked.

You guys love beating up on True so much that you sometimes lose sight of reality.

True was very solid this spring and the Blue Claws looked good this spring too. Pretty sure they were the #1 team in HoCo AAA and had kids from Crabs, FCA and other "elites".

There are few elite teams out there, but a lot of very good ones. Tone it down a bit with the vitriol.


It’s my experience that the ones who detest True the most, are generally ex-True people. Elite teams generally
Don’t despise b- level or lower level clubs.


The most justified complaints I have seen about True is that they lured away people from other clubs, promised great coaches and practice. Failed to deliver. Now that original club team is worse off w/o those kids and they lost that time with a bad exp.


And the neon green is nauseating
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/23/21 11:54 AM
what do we know about the 7 flames team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/23/21 01:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what do we know about the 7 flames team?

Know them from the 2026 group. Good organization from Atlanta area. Not sure about 2028 but would not expect much since the kids likely have not played tough competition yet. They are athletic and will have a few studs but not a lot of depth as a guess. 7 flames will also become 91 Georgia in the future so their is that….
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/23/21 02:40 PM
True and Hawks are very close in talent. Hence the close game. Hawks are very good and have the better record right now. But they are far from dominant, hence one goal games vs. True and NextLevel over last 2 weeks. Give Hawks credit (they also blew out NextLevel), but please don't pretend they are so far ahead of the pack. It's little kid lacrosse and a couple of growth spurts will cause some teams to progress quicker than others.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/23/21 04:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True and Hawks are very close in talent. Hence the close game. Hawks are very good and have the better record right now. But they are far from dominant, hence one goal games vs. True and NextLevel over last 2 weeks. Give Hawks credit (they also blew out NextLevel), but please don't pretend they are so far ahead of the pack. It's little kid lacrosse and a couple of growth spurts will cause some teams to progress quicker than others.

I don’t really care one way or the other but, byyour logic, True is also close to Blue Claws as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/24/21 12:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True and Hawks are very close in talent. Hence the close game. Hawks are very good and have the better record right now. But they are far from dominant, hence one goal games vs. True and NextLevel over last 2 weeks. Give Hawks credit (they also blew out NextLevel), but please don't pretend they are so far ahead of the pack. It's little kid lacrosse and a couple of growth spurts will cause some teams to progress quicker than others.

I don’t really care one way or the other but, byyour logic, True is also close to Blue Claws as well.

Blue Claw plays with heart. There are a few kids on that team that could play for Hawks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/24/21 02:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True and Hawks are very close in talent. Hence the close game. Hawks are very good and have the better record right now. But they are far from dominant, hence one goal games vs. True and NextLevel over last 2 weeks. Give Hawks credit (they also blew out NextLevel), but please don't pretend they are so far ahead of the pack. It's little kid lacrosse and a couple of growth spurts will cause some teams to progress quicker than others.

I don’t really care one way or the other but, byyour logic, True is also close to Blue Claws as well.

Blue Claw plays with heart. There are a few kids on that team that could play for Hawks.

Yeah. I don’t think that’s true. Be sure they show up at Hawks tryouts to prove your point.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/26/21 05:12 PM
Team 91 Long Island just got exposed badly in Md. Beaten badly by mid level team (Next Level) and struggled with Cavalier, which is bottom tier B team(lost 14-1 NL).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/26/21 05:14 PM
Bored Md dad— now we can stop putting 91 Long Island anywhere near the top of your weekly’s.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/26/21 05:50 PM
NL beat LI in OT 4-3.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/26/21 07:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NL beat LI in OT 4-3.

What tournament was this?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/26/21 08:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bored Md dad— now we can stop putting 91 Long Island anywhere near the top of your weekly’s.

1 game yeah that’s a wrap put a fork in ‘em. Smh
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/26/21 08:12 PM
Millon
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/26/21 09:18 PM
So here’s the Saturday Bored MD Dad rankings:

A good week so far for the HoCo teams. Madlax did well at Vail and solidifies its spot at 2. Nice win for Next Level over 91 Venom at Millon coming off of making the finals at Summer Exposure and US Club Jamboree.

BBL continues to impress coming off its Tristar championship with a win over Freedom. It will be interesting to see what 91 Venom does tomorrow in the bracket games vs. BBL and perhaps either Freedom or Next Level if 91 Venom can beat BBL and make the final.

Up north at the Legacy tournament good win for 4 Leaf Army over LI Express and Laxachusetts had some nice wins.

Naptown should also be interesting on Monday as Hawks and FCA are back in action over a field that includes Mooselax LI and some west coast teams.

1. Hawks (MD)
2. Madlax (VA)
3. BBL (NJ)
4. 2way (CT)
5. FCA (MD)
6. Next Level (MD)
7. Team 91 Venom (NY)
8. Freedom (PA)
9. Express North (NY)
10. Mooselax (NY)
11. True Annapolis (MD)
12. Legacy (NY)
13. Long Island Express (NY)
14. Crabs (MD)
15. 4 Leaf Army (NH) / Laxachusetts (MA)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/26/21 10:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bored Md dad— now we can stop putting 91 Long Island anywhere near the top of your weekly’s.

1 game yeah that’s a wrap put a fork in ‘em. Smh

NL is a very good team but went 2-4 in the HoCo league so although this point is way too early there is some truth. There seems to be a logjam of good mid Atlantic teams with NL, FCA, True and I would include Freedom and maybe crabs that can probably beat most of the island teams. NL is also the only team to beat the current Hawks roster last fall so they belong among the top tier. Going to be fun to watch the group as north plays south over the next few weeks, good luck to all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/26/21 10:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 Long Island just got exposed badly in Md. Beaten badly by mid level team (Next Level) and struggled with Cavalier, which is bottom tier B team(lost 14-1 NL).

They lost by 1. That’s not being beaten badly.

Next Level is a mid level team?

2/10 post quality here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/26/21 10:20 PM
I wouldn’t change the rankings just yet
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/26/21 11:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So here’s the Saturday Bored MD Dad rankings:

A good week so far for the HoCo teams. Madlax did well at Vail and solidifies its spot at 2. Nice win for Next Level over 91 Venom at Millon coming off of making the finals at Summer Exposure and US Club Jamboree.

BBL continues to impress coming off its Tristar championship with a win over Freedom. It will be interesting to see what 91 Venom does tomorrow in the bracket games vs. BBL and perhaps either Freedom or Next Level if 91 Venom can beat BBL and make the final.

Up north at the Legacy tournament good win for 4 Leaf Army over LI Express and Laxachusetts had some nice wins.

Naptown should also be interesting on Monday as Hawks and FCA are back in action over a field that includes Mooselax LI and some west coast teams.

1. Hawks (MD)
2. Madlax (VA)
3. BBL (NJ)
4. 2way (CT)
5. FCA (MD)
6. Next Level (MD)
7. Team 91 Venom (NY)
8. Freedom (PA)
9. Express North (NY)
10. Mooselax (NY)
11. True Annapolis (MD)
12. Legacy (NY)
13. Long Island Express (NY)
14. Crabs (MD)
15. 4 Leaf Army (NH) / Laxachusetts (MA)


Bravo!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/26/21 11:26 PM
Saw Team 91 today. They are good. I know results today don’t show it necessarily but it is a well coached and physical team with some great players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/27/21 12:37 AM
I still think venom is better than 2way
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/27/21 01:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw Team 91 today. They are good. I know results today don’t show it necessarily but it is a well coached and physical team with some great players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I still think venom is better than 2way


NLF will sort this ALL out. Not playing in NLF? dont deserve to be ranked at all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/27/21 02:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw Team 91 today. They are good. I know results today don’t show it necessarily but it is a well coached and physical team with some great players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I still think venom is better than 2way


NLF will sort this ALL out. Not playing in NLF ? dont deserve to be ranked at all.

Lol.. elementary school folks… let’s keep it in perspective.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/27/21 02:17 AM
Not one game— they barely beat Cavalier, which is a lower B squad. They finally step off the Island and they get popped.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/27/21 07:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw Team 91 today. They are good. I know results today don’t show it necessarily but it is a well coached and physical team with some great players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I still think venom is better than 2way


NLF will sort this ALL out. Not playing in NLF? dont deserve to be ranked at all.

2way barely beat legacy 2 times maybe they aren’t as strong as we thought
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/27/21 08:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not one game— they barely beat Cavalier, which is a lower B squad. They finally step off the Island and they get popped.

Aren’t they the champions this weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/27/21 08:37 PM
Got real quiet on here…what happened
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/27/21 08:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not one game— they barely beat Cavalier, which is a lower B squad. They finally step off the Island and they get popped.
pop, pop goes weasel, and Venom sure did Put it to THE BOYS....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/27/21 10:53 PM
Sunday Bored MD Dad Rankings:

I think we now have a reasonable view of where things stand. Maryland is the deepest region with six teams that are among the top teams nationally - Hawks, Madlax, FCA, Next Level, True Annapolis, and Crabs.

Long Island is sorting itself into the usual suspects with Team 91 as the top team on the Island. Long Island Express has also had some nice results recently. Legacy started off strong win a finalist spot at NAL but shown a lot of weakness since. Mooselax also has some good results and Naptown will help show where they slot nationally. None of the other LI teams seem among the top teams.

Outside of Maryland and LI, Freedom (PA), 2way (CT), Express North A team (NY), and BBL (NJ) have had the best overall results consistently.

These 14 teams seem like the top tier and it doesn’t look to be changing.

After that we have a few New England teams - 3D NE, Laxachusetts, 4 Leaf Army - with some good results.

1. Hawks
2. Madlax
3. 2way
4. Team 91
5. FCA
6. Next Level
7. BBL
8. Express North
9. Freedom
10. True Annapolis
11. Mooselax
12. Long Island Express
13. Crabs
14. Legacy
15. 3D NE / Laxachusetts / 4 Leaf Army
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/28/21 12:45 AM
Saw the NL goalie today. Got a hard time believing he’s 10/11 years old. Looks like 13
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/28/21 01:03 AM
Very fair list... I do think some west coast teams will crack this top 15 after NLF, or some other visits east. Keep an eye on Mad Dog West Elite, and Seattle Starz in particular. They’re big and athletic. 3D Colorado and 3D Dallas are not good enough to crack the order... and when West Coast Starz start putting out the 28’s, they’ll be competitive as well.

Venom is up there, but a split with Next Level is not a great showing, despite winning the consequential one of the two. NL went 2-4 in HoCo league this spring...

NLF can’t get here soon enough! Any idea who is playing the Adrenaline Platinum Cup July 5-7 in DE? Likely some top west coast teams...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/28/21 01:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw Team 91 today. They are good. I know results today don’t show it necessarily but it is a well coached and physical team with some great players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I still think venom is better than 2way


NLF will sort this ALL out. Not playing in NLF ? dont deserve to be ranked at all.

Lol.. elementary school folks… let’s keep it in perspective.

Cross out D1 for your son.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/28/21 01:47 AM
Very fair list... I do think some west coast teams will crack this top 15 after NLF, or some other visits east. Keep an eye on Mad Dog West Elite, and Seattle Starz in particular. They’re big and athletic. 3D Colorado and 3D Dallas are not good enough to crack the order... and when West Coast Starz start putting out the 28’s, they’ll be competitive as well.

Venom is up there, but a split with Next Level is not a great showing, despite winning the consequential one of the two. NL went 2-4 in HoCo league this spring... and
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/28/21 01:20 PM
You have seen the Hawks goalie then?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/28/21 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have seen the Hawks goalie then?

I think he’s referring to size, not skill. The Hawks goalie is normal size just really good. The NL goalie is a giant.

There were only a couple kids in hoco that looked out the normal size range, NL goalie was one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/28/21 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have seen the Hawks goalie then?

I think he’s referring to size, not skill. The Hawks goalie is normal size just really good. The NL goalie is a giant.

There were only a couple kids in hoco that looked out the normal size range, NL goalie was one.

Son of the Buccaneers nose tackle was playing this weekend for the 7 Flames 2028 team at Millon. Probably was going something 5’10 190 at 11. Played pole and was surprisingly quick. Some kids are just big. But it was visually crazy to see him matched up against all the sub 5’ and 80 lbs attackman.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/28/21 04:20 PM
The Hawks goalie is very big for his age as well— and extremely good. Whether he’s older for his grade, reclassed, doesn’t really matter— he’s just really good.

Kids starting to hit puberty at this grade level, will start to see big disparity in size— don’t just assume they’re older. Some times they are, lot of times they are not.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/28/21 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have seen the Hawks goalie then?

I think he’s referring to size, not skill. The Hawks goalie is normal size just really good. The NL goalie is a giant.

There were only a couple kids in hoco that looked out the normal size range, NL goalie was one.

Son of the Buccaneers nose tackle was playing this weekend for the 7 Flames 2028 team at Millon. Probably was going something 5’10 190 at 11. Played pole and was surprisingly quick. Some kids are just big. But it was visually crazy to see him matched up against all the sub 5’ and 80 lbs attackman.

Saw that guy, apparently he just started playing a few months ago. I thought he looked pretty good for how raw he was and he was (thankfully) not throwing his size around against our midgets. Gonna be a beast if he sticks with it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/28/21 09:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks goalie is very big for his age as well— and extremely good. Whether he’s older for his grade, reclassed, doesn’t really matter— he’s just really good.

Kids starting to hit puberty at this grade level, will start to see big disparity in size— don’t just assume they’re older. Some times they are, lot of times they are not.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You’re wrong that he’s big, they aren’t a big team and he’s average on that team and he’s not a holdback.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 01:46 AM
Can we make a pact that when our sons get beat we don't make lame excuses like, "The other kid was so big!" or "We were missing players!" Just tell your sons to go out and play hard and have some fun. The NL goalie is a big kid. So what, so are most great goalies. The Hawks goalie isn't a big kid, but he can flat out play. Stop making excuses and figure out a way to beat them. True has a long pole who looks like a sophomore in high school. Does your son want to get better? Have him dodge against him for 40 minutes. Madlax has a massive midfielder. Tell your son to get low and push him down the alley. Kids who are faster, bigger, stronger, and just plain better than your son aren't automatically holdbacks because you can't imagine any other reason why that's the case. If you fold or make excuses the moment things become challenging why are you trying to run with these dogs? Just pack it in and go dominate rec.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 02:18 AM
Hawks were dominant team at Naptown. Nationals and Mooselax both struggled against better competition. Colorado team not ready for East Coast play. Mad Dog and 3D Gulf Coast better than advertised, showing there is real lacrosse talent outside MD and NY. Nationals supposedly an All-Star team with lots of different helmets, but not as athletic or skilled.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 08:58 AM
Hawks parents sure do have a chip on their shoulder after a little recent success at 2028. Nobody else knows what they’re talking about, And yes— the Hawks goalie IS big. And very good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 12:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we make a pact that when our sons get beat we don't make lame excuses like, "The other kid was so big!" or "We were missing players!" Just tell your sons to go out and play hard and have some fun. The NL goalie is a big kid. So what, so are most great goalies. The Hawks goalie isn't a big kid, but he can flat out play. Stop making excuses and figure out a way to beat them. True has a long pole who looks like a sophomore in high school. Does your son want to get better? Have him dodge against him for 40 minutes. Madlax has a massive midfielder. Tell your son to get low and push him down the alley. Kids who are faster, bigger, stronger, and just plain better than your son aren't automatically holdbacks because you can't imagine any other reason why that's the case. If you fold or make excuses the moment things become challenging why are you trying to run with these dogs? Just pack it in and go dominate rec.

Got it hold back Dad. You want your son to play down in 6th grade while the rest of us play on age and stay quiet. Hilarious , the logic of the holdbacks/reclass/prefirst dads
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 12:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks parents sure do have a chip on their shoulder after a little recent success at 2028. Nobody else knows what they’re talking about, And yes— the Hawks goalie IS big. And very good.

I brought my measuring stick today. We’ll get this sorted out licketty split!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 01:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we make a pact that when our sons get beat we don't make lame excuses like, "The other kid was so big!" or "We were missing players!" Just tell your sons to go out and play hard and have some fun. The NL goalie is a big kid. So what, so are most great goalies. The Hawks goalie isn't a big kid, but he can flat out play. Stop making excuses and figure out a way to beat them. True has a long pole who looks like a sophomore in high school. Does your son want to get better? Have him dodge against him for 40 minutes. Madlax has a massive midfielder. Tell your son to get low and push him down the alley. Kids who are faster, bigger, stronger, and just plain better than your son aren't automatically holdbacks because you can't imagine any other reason why that's the case. If you fold or make excuses the moment things become challenging why are you trying to run with these dogs? Just pack it in and go dominate rec.

Got it hold back Dad. You want your son to play down in 6th grade while the rest of us play on age and stay quiet. Hilarious , the logic of the holdbacks/reclass/prefirst dads

You assume any kid better than your son must be a holdback. Maybe they’re just better athletes. You seem like the kind of person who complains about his letters when he loses in Scrabble. Stop whining and be a better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we make a pact that when our sons get beat we don't make lame excuses like, "The other kid was so big!" or "We were missing players!" Just tell your sons to go out and play hard and have some fun. The NL goalie is a big kid. So what, so are most great goalies. The Hawks goalie isn't a big kid, but he can flat out play. Stop making excuses and figure out a way to beat them. True has a long pole who looks like a sophomore in high school. Does your son want to get better? Have him dodge against him for 40 minutes. Madlax has a massive midfielder. Tell your son to get low and push him down the alley. Kids who are faster, bigger, stronger, and just plain better than your son aren't automatically holdbacks because you can't imagine any other reason why that's the case. If you fold or make excuses the moment things become challenging why are you trying to run with these dogs? Just pack it in and go dominate rec.

Got it hold back Dad. You want your son to play down in 6th grade while the rest of us play on age and stay quiet. Hilarious , the logic of the holdbacks/reclass/prefirst dads

You assume any kid better than your son must be a holdback. Maybe they’re just better athletes. You seem like the kind of person who complains about his letters when he loses in Scrabble. Stop whining and be a better.

If they were just better athletes why would they need to be held back?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 02:21 PM
47 on Madlax is 13 he said it himself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 02:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
47 on Madlax is 13 he said it himself.

And here come the other holdback/prefirst parents to say it doesn’t matter - when you know, it actually does.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 03:16 PM
He's 12. Mind your business and stop trolling children.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 03:31 PM
isn't 2028 supposed to be 10/11 year olds?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 03:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He's 12. Mind your business and stop trolling children.

if he's 12 now he's a holdback.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 04:41 PM
12 is not 13 and the composition of any 2028 team (or any grade based team) is probably 20-30% minimum summer birthday's (i.e. holdbacks). Get over it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 04:58 PM
Nope he a hold back. If it was a summer birthday he would be 11.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 05:03 PM
This is why club lacrosse should be aged based until probably grade 7-8. Being 12 and playing 2028 is a advantage no matter how you look at it. There are kids playing 2027 that aren’t even 12 now. But you don’t know his situation maybe he struggled in lower grades.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 07:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 is not 13 and the composition of any 2028 team (or any grade based team) is probably 20-30% minimum summer birthday's (i.e. holdbacks). Get over it.

Why did he hold back? Was it because he couldn’t keep up in the classroom or on the field?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 is not 13 and the composition of any 2028 team (or any grade based team) is probably 20-30% minimum summer birthday's (i.e. holdbacks). Get over it.

Not true, but the truth hurts.

Serious question; What happens when the other kids catch up and the holdback doesn’t make the team anymore?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 07:38 PM
Let's please all stay away from discussing individual kids on specific teams. Parents and coaches are the ones who decide where these boys play, not the kids themselves. Generally speaking, the most talented players play up. Kids want to play with their friends. Most 11 year olds wouldn't want to play on a team of 9 year olds, etc. But the parents or coaches put them in that spot for a reason. Don't blame the kid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 07:52 PM
It's not the kids fault and this is not the biggest problem the biggest one for me is teams bringing older kids come playoffs in tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 08:21 PM
Hawks, man. Pretty impressive showing at Naptown. No significant dispute about who is #1 anymore I think.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 08:54 PM
Nobody on here has disputed the Hawks position on top of the field. Even the Madlax folks have made that point clear. We have yet to see Madlax or the Hawks play The two teams up north but everyone says are the best they have to offer, 2-Way and 91 Venom. Hope we get to see those four teams tussle at NLF in July.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 08:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks, man. Pretty impressive showing at Naptown. No significant dispute about who is #1 anymore I think.

It’s a nice win but do you think the tournament was filled with high level teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 08:58 PM
I've said this for years with two older boys who play, it's a grade-based sport. If you don't like it, pick something else, like soccer or baseball. But stop with all of the "holdback" nonsense. I'm sure that back in kindergarten when they decided Johnny wasn't ready, developmentally or emotionally, they were envisioning him playing lacrosse, and that him being 6-8 months older than some of the kids in his class would chart his future in the sport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 09:35 PM
Bingo. 99% of these kids are held back before Kindergarten... and it had nothing to do with sports. There are also the occasional reclasses in grade school. Not many, though, it happens when they’re like 4 or 5 and not mature enough to start Kindergarten. What kid who is any good wants to leave his buddies and play with the little cretins the grade below, as he’d call them?? Not many... certainly not mine.

Get over it. When it really matters (high school), freshman will be playing with seniors and its sink or swim, whatever their age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 10:39 PM
Agreed - no need to single out specific kids. It’s definitely not the child’s fault where the parents/programs chose to play them.

Some parents want their kids to play with younger kids (and learn in the classroom) with younger kids.

To each their own.

It’s tremendously unimpressive in the grand scheme to watch 12/13 year olds beat up on 10/11 year olds - but this is the world of wealthy, private school, blue blood lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 10:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody on here has disputed the Hawks position on top of the field. Even the Madlax folks have made that point clear. We have yet to see Madlax or the Hawks play The two teams up north but everyone says are the best they have to offer, 2-Way and 91 Venom. Hope we get to see those four teams tussle at NLF in July.

That would be great
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 10:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody on here has disputed the Hawks position on top of the field. Even the Madlax folks have made that point clear. We have yet to see Madlax or the Hawks play The two teams up north but everyone says are the best they have to offer, 2-Way and 91 Venom. Hope we get to see those four teams tussle at NLF in July.

Having seen Team 91, I don’t think they will be a significant opponent for the Hawks. Not on the same level. Madlax will also beat Team 91. Maybe 2way is better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 10:47 PM
The holdback dads AKA the “get over it crew.”
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 11:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks, man. Pretty impressive showing at Naptown. No significant dispute about who is #1 anymore I think.

It’s a nice win but do you think the tournament was filled with high level teams?


Thought the talent level was very good at Naptown, lotsa great teams from all over the country- Cali/Colorado/Florida/New York and two National teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 11:24 PM
2way better bring there 27 and refs for help
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/29/21 11:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The holdback dads AKA the “get over it crew.”

When I was growing up there was a word for boys whose parents fixed it for them to compete in sports against younger kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 12:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The holdback dads AKA the “get over it crew.”

They are as smart as their kids that couldn’t make the grades. That’s the only reason to hold back right?

Agreed, lame but just beat them with little Johnny who is on age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 12:18 AM
Parent of a July 2007 kid… he’s 35% for for height and weight, so your hold back conversation is ridiculous in terms of weight/size making it unfair - he just has better stick work - hit the wall. Seeing the 2028 crowd, they are a particularly small class overall in my opinion, so it makes some kids stand out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 01:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parent of a July 2007 kid… he’s 35% for for height and weight, so your hold back conversation is ridiculous in terms of weight/size making it unfair - he just has better stick work - hit the wall. Seeing the 2028 crowd, they are a particularly small class overall in my opinion, so it makes some kids stand out.

You are proving the point- it’s not just size. It’s physical development, coordination, hand eye. It’s cheating. Period. Go to school w the younger kids that’s fine- athletically compete on age
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 02:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parent of a July 2007 kid… he’s 35% for for height and weight, so your hold back conversation is ridiculous in terms of weight/size making it unfair - he just has better stick work - hit the wall. Seeing the 2028 crowd, they are a particularly small class overall in my opinion, so it makes some kids stand out.

Or maybe little Bobby should have hit the books…
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 02:33 AM
Cheating … go play soccer
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 02:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parent of a July 2007 kid… he’s 35% for for height and weight, so your hold back conversation is ridiculous in terms of weight/size making it unfair - he just has better stick work - hit the wall. Seeing the 2028 crowd, they are a particularly small class overall in my opinion, so it makes some kids stand out.

2028 will be holding them back if true. holdback, Reclass or prefirst..Its all the same..Getting a unfair advantage at youth level. pretty sad
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 02:41 AM
July vs September 🙄 you are an stunad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 04:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parent of a July 2007 kid… he’s 35% for for height and weight, so your hold back conversation is ridiculous in terms of weight/size making it unfair - he just has better stick work - hit the wall. Seeing the 2028 crowd, they are a particularly small class overall in my opinion, so it makes some kids stand out.

Does your 14 year old play 2028?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 05:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parent of a July 2007 kid… he’s 35% for for height and weight, so your hold back conversation is ridiculous in terms of weight/size making it unfair - he just has better stick work - hit the wall. Seeing the 2028 crowd, they are a particularly small class overall in my opinion, so it makes some kids stand out.

You are proving the point- it’s not just size. It’s physical development, coordination, hand eye. It’s cheating. Period. Go to school w the younger kids that’s fine- athletically compete on age

So if a kid is a July birthday then they should play up? Or down? What’s the cutoff? A kid born in August playing “down” is cheating but a kid born in September playing “on age” is all good? Even though they’re 8 months older than a May birthday? We can go in circles all day...

If a kid is in middle school and the parents decide to hold him back to have an advantage in lacrosse then that’s nonsense. I don’t think that happens enough for it to dominate these forums.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 10:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parent of a July 2007 kid… he’s 35% for for height and weight, so your hold back conversation is ridiculous in terms of weight/size making it unfair - he just has better stick work - hit the wall. Seeing the 2028 crowd, they are a particularly small class overall in my opinion, so it makes some kids stand out.

You are proving the point- it’s not just size. It’s physical development, coordination, hand eye. It’s cheating. Period. Go to school w the younger kids that’s fine- athletically compete on age

So if a kid is a July birthday then they should play up? Or down? What’s the cutoff? A kid born in August playing “down” is cheating but a kid born in September playing “on age” is all good? Even though they’re 8 months older than a May birthday? We can go in circles all day...

If a kid is in middle school and the parents decide to hold him back to have an advantage in lacrosse then that’s nonsense. I don’t think that happens enough for it to dominate these forums.

Agreed-- just the typical excuse when certain teams lose, instead of just giving the other team credit for being good/having talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 12:09 PM
It’s tiring listening to this holdback idea over, and over, and over again. For the record, my kid just turned 11–he’s VERY young for 2028. Officially, the cutoff is August 31 for age-based lacrosse. So, kids who are “on age” should be 11, getting ready to turn 12 Sept 1. If they’re already 12, they’re technically “held back.” If they’re an old 11, they’re still legit 2028.

Would I rather my kid was a Sept birthday Vs May? Of course... go read The Outliers. Great book that addresses this. But as it is, Lacrosse is primarily a grade- based sport. Get over it. There would be kids that are up to 364 days older than yours if it were age based, so be it. My kid is likely younger than 80-90% of the kids in this 2028 level, but it makes him better. Swim or sink.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s tiring listening to this holdback idea over, and over, and over again. For the record, my kid just turned 11–he’s VERY young for 2028. Officially, the cutoff is August 31 for age-based lacrosse. So, kids who are “on age” should be 11, getting ready to turn 12 Sept 1. If they’re already 12, they’re technically “held back.” If they’re an old 11, they’re still legit 2028.

Would I rather my kid was a Sept birthday Vs May? Of course... go read The Outliers. Great book that addresses this. But as it is, Lacrosse is primarily a grade- based sport. Get over it. There would be kids that are up to 364 days older than yours if it were age based, so be it. My kid is likely younger than 80-90% of the kids in this 2028 level, but it makes him better. Swim or sink.

The reality is kids getting held back removes opportunity for kids who are on age, period.

I think those that hold their kids back should own it but they don’t. They talk about how good their kids are, others should get over it etc.

Just own the fact that your kid wasn’t smart enough for school or athletic enough for 2027 because that’s what you actually think when you hold them back.

Otherwise just be quiet, my kid is good enough and smart enough even though he’s a year younger!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 03:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s tiring listening to this holdback idea over, and over, and over again. For the record, my kid just turned 11–he’s VERY young for 2028. Officially, the cutoff is August 31 for age-based lacrosse. So, kids who are “on age” should be 11, getting ready to turn 12 Sept 1. If they’re already 12, they’re technically “held back.” If they’re an old 11, they’re still legit 2028.

Would I rather my kid was a Sept birthday Vs May? Of course... go read The Outliers. Great book that addresses this. But as it is, Lacrosse is primarily a grade- based sport. Get over it. There would be kids that are up to 364 days older than yours if it were age based, so be it. My kid is likely younger than 80-90% of the kids in this 2028 level, but it makes him better. Swim or sink.

The reality is kids getting held back removes opportunity for kids who are on age, period.

I think those that hold their kids back should own it but they don’t. They talk about how good their kids are, others should get over it etc.

Just own the fact that your kid wasn’t smart enough for school or athletic enough for 2027 because that’s what you actually think when you hold them back.

Otherwise just be quiet, my kid is good enough and smart enough even though he’s a year younger!

What an absolute fool you are. I wasn’t thinking about lacrosse or if my kid could identify colors as a toddler when we decided on another year of Montessori school. The biggest factor was our family dynamic and where he fit in school with his siblings. The second factor was that he's a boy and boys develop later than girls and I wanted his frontal lobe to be more developed when he navigated a coed high school. No one cares but you that your son isn’t good enough for you. Your outlook certainly doesn’t help him. My son has played up - sometimes two years - in every sport, including lacrosse. I’ll happily own that he misses the cutoff by 44 days and that those 44 days give him an advantage. His biggest advantage though is that he’s an awesome athlete and an even better kid.

These parents who whine and complain that their sons are being held back from their true potential by summer birthday kids. “If only there were no summer birthday kids my son would really shine and be a star! Life is so unfair!”

Maybe your son’s talent and your attitude are connected.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 03:41 PM
This is a USA Lacrosse created problem. They have a rule that states the cut off is Sept. 1st. Make teams play by that rules. It is enforced in other sports not sure why not in lax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s tiring listening to this holdback idea over, and over, and over again. For the record, my kid just turned 11–he’s VERY young for 2028. Officially, the cutoff is August 31 for age-based lacrosse. So, kids who are “on age” should be 11, getting ready to turn 12 Sept 1. If they’re already 12, they’re technically “held back.” If they’re an old 11, they’re still legit 2028.

Would I rather my kid was a Sept birthday Vs May? Of course... go read The Outliers. Great book that addresses this. But as it is, Lacrosse is primarily a grade- based sport. Get over it. There would be kids that are up to 364 days older than yours if it were age based, so be it. My kid is likely younger than 80-90% of the kids in this 2028 level, but it makes him better. Swim or sink.

The reality is kids getting held back removes opportunity for kids who are on age, period.

I think those that hold their kids back should own it but they don’t. They talk about how good their kids are, others should get over it etc.

Just own the fact that your kid wasn’t smart enough for school or athletic enough for 2027 because that’s what you actually think when you hold them back.

Otherwise just be quiet, my kid is good enough and smart enough even though he’s a year younger!

What an absolute fool you are. I wasn’t thinking about lacrosse or if my kid could identify colors as a toddler when we decided on another year of Montessori school. The biggest factor was our family dynamic and where he fit in school with his siblings. The second factor was that he's a boy and boys develop later than girls and I wanted his frontal lobe to be more developed when he navigated a coed high school. No one cares but you that your son isn’t good enough for you. Your outlook certainly doesn’t help him. My son has played up - sometimes two years - in every sport, including lacrosse. I’ll happily own that he misses the cutoff by 44 days and that those 44 days give him an advantage. His biggest advantage though is that he’s an awesome athlete and an even better kid.

These parents who whine and complain that their sons are being held back from their true potential by summer birthday kids. “If only there were no summer birthday kids my son would really shine and be a star! Life is so unfair!”

Maybe your son’s talent and your attitude are connected.

Well if you held him back, he didn’t play up, he played on age. Second, by your reasoning all boys should be held back.
Your defensiveness is telling.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 03:52 PM
Holding back isn’t cheating in lacrosse. It’s a parental choice.

It’s just lame for parents who cite decisions to give their sons developmental advantages as youngsters (which is totally fine if you ask me) - then somehow inexplicably try to say when it comes to lacrosse it *is not* an advantage and everyone should get over it.

And on age kids who lose time to older children should just hit the wall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s tiring listening to this holdback idea over, and over, and over again. For the record, my kid just turned 11–he’s VERY young for 2028. Officially, the cutoff is August 31 for age-based lacrosse. So, kids who are “on age” should be 11, getting ready to turn 12 Sept 1. If they’re already 12, they’re technically “held back.” If they’re an old 11, they’re still legit 2028.

Would I rather my kid was a Sept birthday Vs May? Of course... go read The Outliers. Great book that addresses this. But as it is, Lacrosse is primarily a grade- based sport. Get over it. There would be kids that are up to 364 days older than yours if it were age based, so be it. My kid is likely younger than 80-90% of the kids in this 2028 level, but it makes him better. Swim or sink.

The reality is kids getting held back removes opportunity for kids who are on age, period.

I think those that hold their kids back should own it but they don’t. They talk about how good their kids are, others should get over it etc.

Just own the fact that your kid wasn’t smart enough for school or athletic enough for 2027 because that’s what you actually think when you hold them back.

Otherwise just be quiet, my kid is good enough and smart enough even though he’s a year younger!

What an absolute fool you are. I wasn’t thinking about lacrosse or if my kid could identify colors as a toddler when we decided on another year of Montessori school. The biggest factor was our family dynamic and where he fit in school with his siblings. The second factor was that he's a boy and boys develop later than girls and I wanted his frontal lobe to be more developed when he navigated a coed high school. No one cares but you that your son isn’t good enough for you. Your outlook certainly doesn’t help him. My son has played up - sometimes two years - in every sport, including lacrosse. I’ll happily own that he misses the cutoff by 44 days and that those 44 days give him an advantage. His biggest advantage though is that he’s an awesome athlete and an even better kid.

These parents who whine and complain that their sons are being held back from their true potential by summer birthday kids. “If only there were no summer birthday kids my son would really shine and be a star! Life is so unfair!”

Maybe your son’s talent and your attitude are connected.

That’s rich, the guy who holds his kid back because he’s afraid of women in school talking about how the parents of the kids who are good enough to play on age have a problem! Good one!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 04:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s tiring listening to this holdback idea over, and over, and over again. For the record, my kid just turned 11–he’s VERY young for 2028. Officially, the cutoff is August 31 for age-based lacrosse. So, kids who are “on age” should be 11, getting ready to turn 12 Sept 1. If they’re already 12, they’re technically “held back.” If they’re an old 11, they’re still legit 2028.

Would I rather my kid was a Sept birthday Vs May? Of course... go read The Outliers. Great book that addresses this. But as it is, Lacrosse is primarily a grade- based sport. Get over it. There would be kids that are up to 364 days older than yours if it were age based, so be it. My kid is likely younger than 80-90% of the kids in this 2028 level, but it makes him better. Swim or sink.

Or you can do what my son did- play up 2 years. He was gonna have to do it in high school anyway. Gonna be fun watching him dominate as he gets back on age, and hear all the other parents complain of him "reclassing!"
lolz
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 06/30/21 04:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Holding back isn’t cheating in lacrosse. It’s a parental choice.

It’s just lame for parents who cite decisions to give their sons developmental advantages as youngsters (which is totally fine if you ask me) - then somehow inexplicably try to say when it comes to lacrosse it *is not* an advantage and everyone should get over it.

And on age kids who lose time to older children should just hit the wall.

Exactly!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 01:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bingo. 99% of these kids are held back before Kindergarten... and it had nothing to do with sports. There are also the occasional reclasses in grade school. Not many, though, it happens when they’re like 4 or 5 and not mature enough to start Kindergarten. What kid who is any good wants to leave his buddies and play with the little cretins the grade below, as he’d call them?? Not many... certainly not mine.

Get over it. When it really matters (high school), freshman will be playing with seniors and its sink or swim, whatever their age.

Hilarious, You holdback Blue Bloods feel you are so entitled . Just because your little Johnny failed Kindergarten, oops I mean did a prefirst doesn't give him the right to get an advantage in youth sports others dont same exact birthday. What should happen is, that anyone that wants, gets to play down like your little holdback Johnny. That would be the right thing to do.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 01:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s tiring listening to this holdback idea over, and over, and over again. For the record, my kid just turned 11–he’s VERY young for 2028. Officially, the cutoff is August 31 for age-based lacrosse. So, kids who are “on age” should be 11, getting ready to turn 12 Sept 1. If they’re already 12, they’re technically “held back.” If they’re an old 11, they’re still legit 2028.

Would I rather my kid was a Sept birthday Vs May? Of course... go read The Outliers. Great book that addresses this. But as it is, Lacrosse is primarily a grade- based sport. Get over it. There would be kids that are up to 364 days older than yours if it were age based, so be it. My kid is likely younger than 80-90% of the kids in this 2028 level, but it makes him better. Swim or sink.

The reality is kids getting held back removes opportunity for kids who are on age, period.

I think those that hold their kids back should own it but they don’t. They talk about how good their kids are, others should get over it etc.

Just own the fact that your kid wasn’t smart enough for school or athletic enough for 2027 because that’s what you actually think when you hold them back.

Otherwise just be quiet, my kid is good enough and smart enough even though he’s a year younger!

What an absolute fool you are. I wasn’t thinking about lacrosse or if my kid could identify colors as a toddler when we decided on another year of Montessori school. The biggest factor was our family dynamic and where he fit in school with his siblings. The second factor was that he's a boy and boys develop later than girls and I wanted his frontal lobe to be more developed when he navigated a coed high school. No one cares but you that your son isn’t good enough for you. Your outlook certainly doesn’t help him. My son has played up - sometimes two years - in every sport, including lacrosse. I’ll happily own that he misses the cutoff by 44 days and that those 44 days give him an advantage. His biggest advantage though is that he’s an awesome athlete and an even better kid.

These parents who whine and complain that their sons are being held back from their true potential by summer birthday kids. “If only there were no summer birthday kids my son would really shine and be a star! Life is so unfair!”

Maybe your son’s talent and your attitude are connected.

You talk all this playing up, but reality is that your son cant compete on age. It might be your ego and sons talent with peers his age that need addressing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 01:34 AM
What teams are playing NLF from MD besides Hawks and Madlax? When do you think the schedule will come out?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 01:44 AM
The fact that club lacrosse here is totally self reported on age/grade is done intentionally to cover up how old kids are - especially as they get older. Not the best look for the pricy privates too advertise their 20 year old high school players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 02:11 AM
I don't buy it. "had nothing to do with sports". Parents hold back so their child will be ahead not behind. Academics, size, maturity, sports, whatever the reason. You can't say it has nothing to do with sports, it is just not true. The truth of it is though that there is nothing anyone can do about it. There is no rule against it. Yet. It'll take a 2008 laying a dangerous hit on a 2010 who is nowhere near puberty and sending him to the ER for anything to change. It should be a rule solely because of that risk if you ask me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 02:17 AM
Only when the event you are going to is a US Lacrosse sanctioned event.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 02:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s tiring listening to this holdback idea over, and over, and over again. For the record, my kid just turned 11–he’s VERY young for 2028. Officially, the cutoff is August 31 for age-based lacrosse. So, kids who are “on age” should be 11, getting ready to turn 12 Sept 1. If they’re already 12, they’re technically “held back.” If they’re an old 11, they’re still legit 2028.

Would I rather my kid was a Sept birthday Vs May? Of course... go read The Outliers. Great book that addresses this. But as it is, Lacrosse is primarily a grade- based sport. Get over it. There would be kids that are up to 364 days older than yours if it were age based, so be it. My kid is likely younger than 80-90% of the kids in this 2028 level, but it makes him better. Swim or sink.

The reality is kids getting held back removes opportunity for kids who are on age, period.

I think those that hold their kids back should own it but they don’t. They talk about how good their kids are, others should get over it etc.

Just own the fact that your kid wasn’t smart enough for school or athletic enough for 2027 because that’s what you actually think when you hold them back.

Otherwise just be quiet, my kid is good enough and smart enough even though he’s a year younger!

What an absolute fool you are. I wasn’t thinking about lacrosse or if my kid could identify colors as a toddler when we decided on another year of Montessori school. The biggest factor was our family dynamic and where he fit in school with his siblings. The second factor was that he's a boy and boys develop later than girls and I wanted his frontal lobe to be more developed when he navigated a coed high school. No one cares but you that your son isn’t good enough for you. Your outlook certainly doesn’t help him. My son has played up - sometimes two years - in every sport, including lacrosse. I’ll happily own that he misses the cutoff by 44 days and that those 44 days give him an advantage. His biggest advantage though is that he’s an awesome athlete and an even better kid.

These parents who whine and complain that their sons are being held back from their true potential by summer birthday kids. “If only there were no summer birthday kids my son would really shine and be a star! Life is so unfair!”

Maybe your son’s talent and your attitude are connected.

You talk all this playing up, but reality is that your son cant compete on age. It might be your ego and sons talent with peers his age that need addressing.

He’s not too bright, which may explain why his offspring needed to be held back.

44 days… from the oldest kid possible, really 410 days older than the youngest he would play with. Seems reasonable!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 03:21 AM
Sorry, your kids don’t get a special nod, or even a firm pat on the back come senior year because they’re “on age.” The hold backs from Kindergarten likely have an advantage, albeit one that narrows the older they get, and will likely have a better chance of playing at the next level after high school as a result of that advantage. So, keep pounding your chest that your Little Johnny is not a holdback. Congrats. Gets you zero, other than a big perch on your BOTC soap box.

Unless Johnny is an NBA player. That gets him one more year of insane money. I’m sure these are all considerations when the kids are 4-5, I mean who isn’t planning out their club lacrosse careers by then?? What a joke you guys are who keep bashing the holdbacks. Probably the same ones walking the sideline and yelling at the refs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 03:52 AM
Do you holdback complainers understand puberty. Boys will have an advantage in 6, 7 and maybe 8, but then, with some exceptional circumstances, boys even out in 9-10 grade.

Any “20 year old” high schooler has no advantage at all
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 10:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do you holdback complainers understand puberty. Boys will have an advantage in 6, 7 and maybe 8, but then, with some exceptional circumstances, boys even out in 9-10 grade.

Any “20 year old” high schooler has no advantage at all

Clearly you don’t get it…

Your little Johnny will still be small or still be slow or still have issues with girls once puberty hits anyway.

You can’t save him from reality.

And all this bs about prefirst holdbacks is just that, bs. Plenty of kids changing grades now and you know it and there is only one reason now… can’t compete on age in lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 12:31 PM
Where is bored MD lax dad? Need some new rankings to give folks something else to yap about.

Also - looks like hoco fall league is here to stay.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 12:54 PM
Adrenaline Cup field weaker than hoped. Nobody from NY other than Sweetlax. NLF can’t get here soon enough.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 01:19 PM
Will be interesting to see who Nationals bring in for this tournament. The FCA, True, and NL kids helped carry them to Championship game last weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 02:01 PM
I think the majority of the people on here would probably agree that holding the kids back in kindergarten because he’s young for his age it’s not likely a strategic decision in order to positively impact his lacrosse career.

On the contrary, reclassed send a kid in fifth or sixth or seventh grade is very likely an effort to impact his lacrosse career. Pretty difficult to blame parents in the former scenario, but the latter scenario is one that can fairly be criticized.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will be interesting to see who Nationals bring in for this tournament. The FCA, True, and NL kids helped carry them to Championship game last weekend.


I figure that Nationals team will not do well here. The True kids were their best kids
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 02:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is bored MD lax dad? Need some new rankings to give folks something else to yap about.

Also - looks like hoco fall league is here to stay.


Yes- new topic please!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 02:29 PM
Hershey lineup looks pretty spicy for 2028. Madlax Capital, Hawks and Next Level will all be there, Hawks and NL are in the same group and will play each other day 1.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 02:52 PM
Hawks Black is their B team. Looks like a win for MadLax
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 03:06 PM
From where are they pulling all these Nationals teams? Is it nationwide, or are these mid Atlantic teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 03:07 PM
In fairness, looks like every tournament sans hawks A team is a win for Madlax.

Tryouts are amongst us now - it’s officially July. Interesting to see how the best teams change with kids moving.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 03:07 PM
Why isn’t the Hawks green team playing in Hershey? They have in the past.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 04:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is bored MD lax dad? Need some new rankings to give folks something else to yap about.

Also - looks like hoco fall league is here to stay.

Bored MD dad here. I don’t know if Naptown really shakes them up enough to warrant a new run of the the rankings. But here are my thoughts. Obviously, the Hawks continued to show that they were #1. FCA showed a little more weakness than expected, but the unexpected losses were to two national teams which are hard to gauge since their rosters can change so much week to week. Mooselax is maybe a little weaker than we thought. I don’t think we’ll have many good matchups prior to NLF other than potentially a Next Level v. Madlax game at Hershey, Madlax vs. Nationals at Platinum Cup, and the several northern teams playing in the Prime Time Tournament in Connecticut.

Tier 1
1. Hawks

Tier 2
2. Madlax - consistently strong results in HoCo and this summer against everyone but the Hawks. Have beaten all the HOCo teams other than Hawks, plus BBL, Express North, Legacy, and an underrated Mad Dog West team. No one other than Hawks can match that resume of wins.

Tier 3

3. 2way
4. Team 91 - could be in either order with 2way.
5. Next Level - really hard to rank NL. Such divergent results. Several strong wins this summer - Team 91, Freedom, etc. - and made the finals of three straight tournaments with pretty good fields. But what happened to them in HoCo? And should we consider at all the wins over Hawks and Madlax from the fall? I could definitely see a good argument they should be lower. Potential matchup with Madlax at Hershey could be interesting.
6. BBL - Very strong schedule this summer and lots of good wins. Probably more good wins than the three in this tier above them. But seem to struggle a little with the very best teams - losses to Madlax, Team 91, split with 2way.
7. FCA - Weird to have them below NL given that they beat NL twice, the last time in a blow out in HoCo. But this summer they haven’t really had many big wins. Long Island Express win at NAL might be their best win this summer? But I could see having them ahead of NL given the head to head record.
8. Express North - solid wins, maybe lack consistency.

(If we were including national teams, I’d include Mad Dog National and Nationals in this tier somewhere, but since the rosters seem to vary tournament to tournament not sure it makes sense to include them.)

Tier 4 - Slightly below the Tier 3 teams; way below Hawks and Madlax.

9. Freedom - Strong summer schedule, some solid wins, but losses to Next Level in 2 of 3, BBL, and Hawks.
10. True Annapolis - Haven’t played a ton this summer in terms of top teams. Some good results at NAL and a one goal game with Hawks. Beat NL in HoCo. Going to overlook the Blue Claws loss as an outlier.
11. Long Island Express - played a lot this summer. A lot of good wins and a lot of losses. Very inconsistent team, but one team I think others would want to avoid in the early rounds of tournaments because they have the athletes to be really good at some point.

Tier 5 - Reason to believe they are good, but something missing in their resume in terms of wins against top competition to put in one of the above tiers.

Crabs (other than the two wins against True, have there been any wins against top competition?), Mooselax, Legacy, Laxachusetts, 3D NE, 4 Leaf Army, Mad Dog West, 3D Gulf Coast.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 04:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hershey lineup looks pretty spicy for 2028. Madlax Capital, Hawks and Next Level will all be there, Hawks and NL are in the same group and will play each other day 1.


Hawks B team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is bored MD lax dad? Need some new rankings to give folks something else to yap about.

Also - looks like hoco fall league is here to stay.

Bored MD dad here. I don’t know if Naptown really shakes them up enough to warrant a new run of the the rankings. But here are my thoughts. Obviously, the Hawks continued to show that they were #1. FCA showed a little more weakness than expected, but the unexpected losses were to two national teams which are hard to gauge since their rosters can change so much week to week. Mooselax is maybe a little weaker than we thought. I don’t think we’ll have many good matchups prior to NLF other than potentially a Next Level v. Madlax game at Hershey, Madlax vs. Nationals at Platinum Cup, and the several northern teams playing in the Prime Time Tournament in Connecticut.

Tier 1
1. Hawks

Tier 2
2. Madlax - consistently strong results in HoCo and this summer against everyone but the Hawks. Have beaten all the HOCo teams other than Hawks, plus BBL, Express North, Legacy, and an underrated Mad Dog West team. No one other than Hawks can match that resume of wins.

Tier 3

3. 2way
4. Team 91 - could be in either order with 2way.
5. Next Level - really hard to rank NL. Such divergent results. Several strong wins this summer - Team 91, Freedom, etc. - and made the finals of three straight tournaments with pretty good fields. But what happened to them in HoCo? And should we consider at all the wins over Hawks and Madlax from the fall? I could definitely see a good argument they should be lower. Potential matchup with Madlax at Hershey could be interesting.
6. BBL - Very strong schedule this summer and lots of good wins. Probably more good wins than the three in this tier above them. But seem to struggle a little with the very best teams - losses to Madlax, Team 91, split with 2way.
7. FCA - Weird to have them below NL given that they beat NL twice, the last time in a blow out in HoCo. But this summer they haven’t really had many big wins. Long Island Express win at NAL might be their best win this summer? But I could see having them ahead of NL given the head to head record.
8. Express North - solid wins, maybe lack consistency.

(If we were including national teams, I’d include Mad Dog National and Nationals in this tier somewhere, but since the rosters seem to vary tournament to tournament not sure it makes sense to include them.)

Tier 4 - Slightly below the Tier 3 teams; way below Hawks and Madlax.

9. Freedom - Strong summer schedule, some solid wins, but losses to Next Level in 2 of 3, BBL, and Hawks.
10. True Annapolis - Haven’t played a ton this summer in terms of top teams. Some good results at NAL and a one goal game with Hawks. Beat NL in HoCo. Going to overlook the Blue Claws loss as an outlier.
11. Long Island Express - played a lot this summer. A lot of good wins and a lot of losses. Very inconsistent team, but one team I think others would want to avoid in the early rounds of tournaments because they have the athletes to be really good at some point.

Tier 5 - Reason to believe they are good, but something missing in their resume in terms of wins against top competition to put in one of the above tiers.

Crabs (other than the two wins against True, have there been any wins against top competition?), Mooselax, Legacy, Laxachusetts, 3D NE, 4 Leaf Army, Mad Dog West, 3D Gulf Coast.

Well done again
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 08:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is bored MD lax dad? Need some new rankings to give folks something else to yap about.

Also - looks like hoco fall league is here to stay.

Bored MD dad here. I don’t know if Naptown really shakes them up enough to warrant a new run of the the rankings. But here are my thoughts. Obviously, the Hawks continued to show that they were #1. FCA showed a little more weakness than expected, but the unexpected losses were to two national teams which are hard to gauge since their rosters can change so much week to week. Mooselax is maybe a little weaker than we thought. I don’t think we’ll have many good matchups prior to NLF other than potentially a Next Level v. Madlax game at Hershey, Madlax vs. Nationals at Platinum Cup, and the several northern teams playing in the Prime Time Tournament in Connecticut.

Tier 1
1. Hawks

Tier 2
2. Madlax - consistently strong results in HoCo and this summer against everyone but the Hawks. Have beaten all the HOCo teams other than Hawks, plus BBL, Express North, Legacy, and an underrated Mad Dog West team. No one other than Hawks can match that resume of wins.

Tier 3

3. 2way
4. Team 91 - could be in either order with 2way.
5. Next Level - really hard to rank NL. Such divergent results. Several strong wins this summer - Team 91, Freedom, etc. - and made the finals of three straight tournaments with pretty good fields. But what happened to them in HoCo? And should we consider at all the wins over Hawks and Madlax from the fall? I could definitely see a good argument they should be lower. Potential matchup with Madlax at Hershey could be interesting.
6. BBL - Very strong schedule this summer and lots of good wins. Probably more good wins than the three in this tier above them. But seem to struggle a little with the very best teams - losses to Madlax, Team 91, split with 2way.
7. FCA - Weird to have them below NL given that they beat NL twice, the last time in a blow out in HoCo. But this summer they haven’t really had many big wins. Long Island Express win at NAL might be their best win this summer? But I could see having them ahead of NL given the head to head record.
8. Express North - solid wins, maybe lack consistency.

(If we were including national teams, I’d include Mad Dog National and Nationals in this tier somewhere, but since the rosters seem to vary tournament to tournament not sure it makes sense to include them.)

Tier 4 - Slightly below the Tier 3 teams; way below Hawks and Madlax.

9. Freedom - Strong summer schedule, some solid wins, but losses to Next Level in 2 of 3, BBL, and Hawks.
10. True Annapolis - Haven’t played a ton this summer in terms of top teams. Some good results at NAL and a one goal game with Hawks. Beat NL in HoCo. Going to overlook the Blue Claws loss as an outlier.
11. Long Island Express - played a lot this summer. A lot of good wins and a lot of losses. Very inconsistent team, but one team I think others would want to avoid in the early rounds of tournaments because they have the athletes to be really good at some point.

Tier 5 - Reason to believe they are good, but something missing in their resume in terms of wins against top competition to put in one of the above tiers.

Crabs (other than the two wins against True, have there been any wins against top competition?), Mooselax, Legacy, Laxachusetts, 3D NE, 4 Leaf Army, Mad Dog West, 3D Gulf Coast.

Agee, very fair assessment
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/01/21 08:10 PM
bored MD lax dad, giving us the content we need but don't deserve
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/02/21 09:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is bored MD lax dad? Need some new rankings to give folks something else to yap about.

Also - looks like hoco fall league is here to stay.

Bored MD dad here. I don’t know if Naptown really shakes them up enough to warrant a new run of the the rankings. But here are my thoughts. Obviously, the Hawks continued to show that they were #1. FCA showed a little more weakness than expected, but the unexpected losses were to two national teams which are hard to gauge since their rosters can change so much week to week. Mooselax is maybe a little weaker than we thought. I don’t think we’ll have many good matchups prior to NLF other than potentially a Next Level v. Madlax game at Hershey, Madlax vs. Nationals at Platinum Cup, and the several northern teams playing in the Prime Time Tournament in Connecticut.

Tier 1
1. Hawks

Tier 2
2. Madlax - consistently strong results in HoCo and this summer against everyone but the Hawks. Have beaten all the HOCo teams other than Hawks, plus BBL, Express North, Legacy, and an underrated Mad Dog West team. No one other than Hawks can match that resume of wins.

Tier 3

3. 2way
4. Team 91 - could be in either order with 2way.
5. Next Level - really hard to rank NL. Such divergent results. Several strong wins this summer - Team 91, Freedom, etc. - and made the finals of three straight tournaments with pretty good fields. But what happened to them in HoCo? And should we consider at all the wins over Hawks and Madlax from the fall? I could definitely see a good argument they should be lower. Potential matchup with Madlax at Hershey could be interesting.
6. BBL - Very strong schedule this summer and lots of good wins. Probably more good wins than the three in this tier above them. But seem to struggle a little with the very best teams - losses to Madlax, Team 91, split with 2way.
7. FCA - Weird to have them below NL given that they beat NL twice, the last time in a blow out in HoCo. But this summer they haven’t really had many big wins. Long Island Express win at NAL might be their best win this summer? But I could see having them ahead of NL given the head to head record.
8. Express North - solid wins, maybe lack consistency.

(If we were including national teams, I’d include Mad Dog National and Nationals in this tier somewhere, but since the rosters seem to vary tournament to tournament not sure it makes sense to include them.)

Tier 4 - Slightly below the Tier 3 teams; way below Hawks and Madlax.

9. Freedom - Strong summer schedule, some solid wins, but losses to Next Level in 2 of 3, BBL, and Hawks.
10. True Annapolis - Haven’t played a ton this summer in terms of top teams. Some good results at NAL and a one goal game with Hawks. Beat NL in HoCo. Going to overlook the Blue Claws loss as an outlier.
11. Long Island Express - played a lot this summer. A lot of good wins and a lot of losses. Very inconsistent team, but one team I think others would want to avoid in the early rounds of tournaments because they have the athletes to be really good at some point.

Tier 5 - Reason to believe they are good, but something missing in their resume in terms of wins against top competition to put in one of the above tiers.

Crabs (other than the two wins against True, have there been any wins against top competition?), Mooselax, Legacy, Laxachusetts, 3D NE, 4 Leaf Army, Mad Dog West, 3D Gulf Coast.

Agee, very fair assessment

Where are Predators, Look to be strong .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/02/21 10:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
bored MD lax dad, giving us the content we need but don't deserve

Absolutely don’t deserve. He’s like the Walter Kronkite of youth lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/02/21 01:50 PM
Predators?? They went 0-4 on LI against B teams. Unless there is another predators 2028 team??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/02/21 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predators?? They went 0-4 on LI against B teams. Unless there is another predators 2028 team??


Predators will be in the 3rd tier in HOCO. It just doesn’t happen like that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/02/21 04:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predators?? They went 0-4 on LI against B teams. Unless there is another predators 2028 team??


Predators will be in the 3rd tier in HOCO. It just doesn’t happen like that.

Missing players, By end of summer they will be elite. Fall will be in 1st Tier
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/02/21 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predators?? They went 0-4 on LI against B teams. Unless there is another predators 2028 team??


Predators will be in the 3rd tier in HOCO. It just doesn’t happen like that.

Missing players, By end of summer they will be elite. Fall will be in 1st Tier


Been in west Baltimore too much. Smokin that crack. a NEW club in baltimore will be elite a week after tryouts? You’re crazy. And misinformed.

Worst part is— this notIntelligent post alone will be enough for people to root against you. And run scores up on you. Can’t wait!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/02/21 06:09 PM
Do the Predators already have a 28 team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/02/21 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do the Predators already have a 28 team?

Yes
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/02/21 07:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do the Predators already have a 28 team?

Yes

Ok Predator whisperer— the kids that make up a 2028 team, where/what club do they come from?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/03/21 12:42 PM
Predators were in the Lax Fest in Jersey and went 2-2 and lost pretty bad to a Long Island town team, it is an exceptional town team, but still a town team. I don’t think someone is in touch with reality.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/03/21 01:20 PM
Do you know where their players came from? Other clubs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/03/21 02:52 PM
Bored MD dad does it again...

Don’t sleep on some of these west coast teams. As Naptown showed us, particularly in the older age groups, there’s elite level lacrosse being played out in CA. ADVNC, West Coast Starz, Mad Dog Elite etc. The Seattle Starz are apparently the top team out west— played the ECD Capital Classic in DC last week, and while they were mostly B teams, they absolutely stomped everyone— including a legit True Premier (IL) team. Heard they have an attack man who is 6 ft tall and skilled. Hope to see them back East this summer or fall.

NL looking forward to its matchup with Madlax at Hershey, and really hoping NLF gives us some NY-MD matchups to provide some comps. Up to now, Hawks and Madlax have proven they are a cut above with convincing wins against all of the teams up north. Hawks riding a NICE unbeaten streak in 2021, while Madlax has only lost 4 games in 2+ years— 3 of them to Hawks this spring and once to NL in Oct (first game back since July).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/03/21 02:54 PM
Predators.... this is classic click bait. First outing against an elite squad, if it even happens, will be comical.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/04/21 12:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predators.... this is classic click bait. First outing against an elite squad, if it even happens, will be comical.

Hardly, word on the street is that they have a few studs and a bunch of good players. Bet they are elite by summer end, fall you can count on it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/04/21 03:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predators.... this is classic click bait. First outing against an elite squad, if it even happens, will be comical.

Hardly, word on the street is that they have a few studs and a bunch of good players. Bet they are elite by summer end, fall you can count on it.

Predators MD 2028?

This is who you are talking about?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/04/21 02:47 PM
No matter, seems team 91 will take World Series come time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 01:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No matter, seems team 91 will take World Series come time.

Do you mean the 2028 group? No offense but hasn’t that team won like three games in two years?

I know they are a big name program so I’m sure kids will flock there in 7th 8th grades - but that’s a weird prediction to make right now?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 11:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No matter, seems team 91 will take World Series come time.

Do you mean the 2028 group? No offense but hasn’t that team won like three games in two years?

I know they are a big name program so I’m sure kids will flock there in 7th 8th grades - but that’s a weird prediction to make right now?

well, they won 4 games at the millon tournament, including the championship, so i think they won more than 3 games in 2 years
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 01:00 PM
Is Predators where all the unhappy FCA kids are headed together?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 01:23 PM
91venom would get smoked by the Hawks or Madlax in 2028. Different level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 02:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91venom would get smoked by the Hawks or Madlax in 2028. Different level.


The hawks or madlax teams you see thrashing everyone won’t be able to play in WSYL.

So the question is could the on age kids on those two beat 91 venom or 2way or any of the on age teams for that matter?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 02:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91venom would get smoked by the Hawks or Madlax in 2028. Different level.


The hawks or madlax teams you see thrashing everyone won’t be able to play in WSYL.

So the question is could the on age kids on those two beat 91 venom or 2way or any of the on age teams for that matter?

Serious question…. What do the holdback crybabies do when high school comes? Complain that their freshmen don’t make varsity is my guess. Ironic or hypocritical. Maybe both.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91venom would get smoked by the Hawks or Madlax in 2028. Different level.


The hawks or madlax teams you see thrashing everyone won’t be able to play in WSYL.

So the question is could the on age kids on those two beat 91 venom or 2way or any of the on age teams for that matter?

Serious question…. What do the holdback crybabies do when high school comes? Complain that their freshmen don’t make varsity is my guess. Ironic or hypocritical. Maybe both.

In HS both teams will have mixed ages. But 2028 youth teams should have kids that will actually graduate in 2028.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 03:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91venom would get smoked by the Hawks or Madlax in 2028. Different level.


The hawks or madlax teams you see thrashing everyone won’t be able to play in WSYL.

So the question is could the on age kids on those two beat 91 venom or 2way or any of the on age teams for that matter?

Serious question…. What do the holdback crybabies do when high school comes? Complain that their freshmen don’t make varsity is my guess. Ironic or hypocritical. Maybe both.

In HS both teams will have mixed ages. But 2028 youth teams should have kids that will actually graduate in 2028.

I understand the difference…. I just think the holdback complainers are setting their kids up to have excuses - losers mindset. Just my opinion. I don’t care what you complain about or to who. Keep at it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91venom would get smoked by the Hawks or Madlax in 2028. Different level.


The hawks or madlax teams you see thrashing everyone won’t be able to play in WSYL.

So the question is could the on age kids on those two beat 91 venom or 2way or any of the on age teams for that matter?

Serious question…. What do the holdback crybabies do when high school comes? Complain that their freshmen don’t make varsity is my guess. Ironic or hypocritical. Maybe both.

In HS both teams will have mixed ages. But 2028 youth teams should have kids that will actually graduate in 2028.

I understand the difference…. I just think the holdback complainers are setting their kids up to have excuses - losers mindset. Just my opinion. I don’t care what you complain about or to who. Keep at it.

I’ll take the the other side of that statement. Players who play down and win will have a false sense of ability and skill.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91venom would get smoked by the Hawks or Madlax in 2028. Different level.


The hawks or madlax teams you see thrashing everyone won’t be able to play in WSYL.

So the question is could the on age kids on those two beat 91 venom or 2way or any of the on age teams for that matter?

Serious question…. What do the holdback crybabies do when high school comes? Complain that their freshmen don’t make varsity is my guess. Ironic or hypocritical. Maybe both.

In HS you expect to play vs older kids that’s how it goes.
In a grade based tournament where kids are expected to be the same age having kids who are possibly 2 yrs older especially at the youth level isn’t comparable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 04:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91venom would get smoked by the Hawks or Madlax in 2028. Different level.


The hawks or madlax teams you see thrashing everyone won’t be able to play in WSYL.

So the question is could the on age kids on those two beat 91 venom or 2way or any of the on age teams for that matter?

Serious question…. What do the holdback crybabies do when high school comes? Complain that their freshmen don’t make varsity is my guess. Ironic or hypocritical. Maybe both.

In HS you expect to play vs older kids that’s how it goes.
In a grade based tournament where kids are expected to be the same age having kids who are possibly 2 yrs older especially at the youth level isn’t comparable.

So…. When you enter a grade based tournament, you don’t expect to play kids that have held back? If that is the case you either lack intelligence or have been hiding under a rock. This forum has made it clear that holdbacks exist - you can check back to posts YEARS ago.
Just because you disagree doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t expect it. There are people out there that feel only 11-12 grades should be on varsity…. I disagree. These are the rules. Nobody is cheating. Round and round we go.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 07:04 PM
Anyone else hearing there’s a major exodus out of FCA? On both the 27 and 28 teams? anyone truth to these rumors...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 07:27 PM
Yes. They are going to crabs
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 07:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91venom would get smoked by the Hawks or Madlax in 2028. Different level.


The hawks or madlax teams you see thrashing everyone won’t be able to play in WSYL.

So the question is could the on age kids on those two beat 91 venom or 2way or any of the on age teams for that matter?

Serious question…. What do the holdback crybabies do when high school comes? Complain that their freshmen don’t make varsity is my guess. Ironic or hypocritical. Maybe both.

No they deal with it..unlike you holdback apologists whose son couldn't compete on age so you decided to play him down like a .... Well done.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 07:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone else hearing there’s a major exodus out of FCA? On both the 27 and 28 teams? anyone truth to these rumors...

Yes, mass exodus out. Heard why, but I am not starting rumors.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone else hearing there’s a major exodus out of FCA? On both the 27 and 28 teams? anyone truth to these rumors...

Yes, mass exodus out. Heard why, but I am not starting rumors.


Hard to tell if you’re joking or not. Wonder what’s happening up there
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 08:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91venom would get smoked by the Hawks or Madlax in 2028. Different level.


The hawks or madlax teams you see thrashing everyone won’t be able to play in WSYL.

So the question is could the on age kids on those two beat 91 venom or 2way or any of the on age teams for that matter?

Serious question…. What do the holdback crybabies do when high school comes? Complain that their freshmen don’t make varsity is my guess. Ironic or hypocritical. Maybe both.

No they deal with it..unlike you holdback apologists whose son couldn't compete on age so you decided to play him down like a .... Well done.

Wrong again, excuse maker. My kids are grown and gone. We never held them back and never worried about who their competition was. You sound like a…. Well done. Hopefully your kids don’t follow suit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 08:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91venom would get smoked by the Hawks or Madlax in 2028. Different level.


The hawks or madlax teams you see thrashing everyone won’t be able to play in WSYL.

So the question is could the on age kids on those two beat 91 venom or 2way or any of the on age teams for that matter?

Serious question…. What do the holdback crybabies do when high school comes? Complain that their freshmen don’t make varsity is my guess. Ironic or hypocritical. Maybe both.

No they deal with it..unlike you holdback apologists whose son couldn't compete on age so you decided to play him down like a .... Well done.

Wrong again, excuse maker. My kids are grown and gone. We never held them back and never worried about who their competition was. You sound like a…. Well done. Hopefully your kids don’t follow suit.

Sure they are, but you are here on a 6th grade youth lacrosse forum spouting off about holdbacks. Hilarious. Can you holdback apologists at least attempt to be a little honest. People like you dont think playing down is wrong, yet you want to bad mouth players and parents that think Youth lacrosse should have some parameters of fairness with age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone else hearing there’s a major exodus out of FCA? On both the 27 and 28 teams? anyone truth to these rumors...

Yes, mass exodus out. Heard why, but I am not starting rumors.


Hard to tell if you’re joking or not. Wonder what’s happening up there
Major coaching issues on 28 Blue, not sure about 27.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 10:07 PM
Then why our you on here you need a life.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/05/21 10:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91venom would get smoked by the Hawks or Madlax in 2028. Different level.


The hawks or madlax teams you see thrashing everyone won’t be able to play in WSYL.

So the question is could the on age kids on those two beat 91 venom or 2way or any of the on age teams for that matter?

Serious question…. What do the holdback crybabies do when high school comes? Complain that their freshmen don’t make varsity is my guess. Ironic or hypocritical. Maybe both.

No they deal with it..unlike you holdback apologists whose son couldn't compete on age so you decided to play him down like a .... Well done.

Wrong again, excuse maker. My kids are grown and gone. We never held them back and never worried about who their competition was. You sound like a…. Well done. Hopefully your kids don’t follow suit.

So if your kids are gone, why are you on a 28 message board?

Kids play down because they can’t play on age or they aren’t smart enough. Pick one!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/06/21 12:07 AM
🙄NLF can’t get here soon enough
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/06/21 01:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
🙄NLF can’t get here soon enough
Careful there. That’s what you said about WSYL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/06/21 01:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
🙄NLF can’t get here soon enough
Careful there. That’s what you said about WSYL.

What does wsyl have to do with 2028?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/06/21 02:00 AM
WSYL has nothing to do with 2028. On age have another 2 years before that matters …
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/06/21 02:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone else hearing there’s a major exodus out of FCA? On both the 27 and 28 teams? anyone truth to these rumors...

Yes, mass exodus out. Heard why, but I am not starting rumors.


Hard to tell if you’re joking or not. Wonder what’s happening up there
Major coaching issues on 28 Blue, not sure about 27.

Several of the 27 FCA kids are apparently going to crabs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/06/21 03:30 AM
Are these these the HoCo pink guys that jumped
To FCA last year (after first approaching
Blc). Or the OG FCA players?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/06/21 11:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone else hearing there’s a major exodus out of FCA? On both the 27 and 28 teams? anyone truth to these rumors...

Yes, mass exodus out. Heard why, but I am not starting rumors.


Hard to tell if you’re joking or not. Wonder what’s happening up there
Major coaching issues on 28 Blue, not sure about 27.

Several of the 27 FCA kids are apparently going to crabs.

no one cares, wrong forum

using the term "apparently" clearly means you dont actually know.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/06/21 03:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone else hearing there’s a major exodus out of FCA? On both the 27 and 28 teams? anyone truth to these rumors..

Yes, mass exodus out. Heard why, but I am not starting rumors.


Hard to tell if you’re joking or not. Wonder what’s happening up there
Major coaching issues on 28 Blue, not sure about 27.

Several of the 27 FCA kids are apparently going to crabs.

no one cares, wrong forum

using the term "apparently" clearly means you dont actually know.

Good Grief ..When has that ever stopped anyone on this board. LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/06/21 04:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone else hearing there’s a major exodus out of FCA? On both the 27 and 28 teams? anyone truth to these rumors...

Yes, mass exodus out. Heard why, but I am not starting rumors.


Hard to tell if you’re joking or not. Wonder what’s happening up there
Major coaching issues on 28 Blue, not sure about 27.

Several of the 27 FCA kids are apparently going to crabs.

You guys should go back to crying about holdbacks instead worrying about 27’s.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/06/21 04:15 PM
I thought the conversation had to do with FCA 2028 having a major break up, but somehow the 2027s got involved
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/06/21 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the conversation had to do with FCA 2028 having a major break up, but somehow the 2027s got involved

Original mention said both, I can confirm at least the 27 part so there is some truth.

You guys are way to sensitive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/07/21 12:18 PM
what teams are playing in the nlf next weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/07/21 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what teams are playing in the nlf next weekend?


From Maryland?

Madlax and Hawks. All I know now. Not on Tourney machine yet??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/21 12:51 PM
Madlax just dominated Platinum Cup, albeit some middle tier teams. A decent Nationals 2028 team (with Hawks and NL players on roster) and a decent True MD team. Sweetlax Upstate had a tough time...but they will improve, some great athletes
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/21 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax just dominated Platinum Cup, albeit some middle tier teams. A decent Nationals 2028 team (with Hawks and NL players on roster) and a decent True MD team. Sweetlax Upstate had a tough time...but they will improve, some great athletes


Thx Madlax dad. Win a tourney that actually means something
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/21 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax just dominated Platinum Cup, albeit some middle tier teams. A decent Nationals 2028 team (with Hawks and NL players on roster) and a decent True MD team. Sweetlax Upstate had a tough time...but they will improve, some great athletes


That Nationals 2028 team will be really good over the next year or two, hearing that more Hawks and more from other MD clubs will be joining up, watch out Madlax dad! Hahah
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/21 02:26 PM
Yep. Coming for Hawks next. Stint is over.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/21 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep. Coming for Hawks next. Stint is over.

Not if the team is populated with the best Hawks players

I don’t know what a Hawks or Madlax or anyone else good player would want to do with these teams anyway.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/21 04:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep. Coming for Hawks next. Stint is over.

You need help. These are 5th graders.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/21 05:18 PM
Stay with your team if you son is having fun until 9th or 10th grade at least. Ignore the nonsense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/21 05:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep. Coming for Hawks next. Stint is over.

You need help. These are 5th graders.
But 5th graders in md club lax are old enough to buy beer *zing*
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/21 06:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax just dominated Platinum Cup, albeit some middle tier teams. A decent Nationals 2028 team (with Hawks and NL players on roster) and a decent True MD team. Sweetlax Upstate had a tough time...but they will improve, some great athletes

Before too long, this Nationals 2028 team might be rolling people the same way their 2027 team does now. Losing the championship games of their first two tournaments (Naptown, Platinum Cup) to the two best 2028 teams in the country (Hawks and Madlax) is going to go a long way towards helping them recruit the best non-hot bed kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/21 08:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax just dominated Platinum Cup, albeit some middle tier teams. A decent Nationals 2028 team (with Hawks and NL players on roster) and a decent True MD team. Sweetlax Upstate had a tough time...but they will improve, some great athletes

Before too long, this Nationals 2028 team might be rolling people the same way their 2027 team does now. Losing the championship games of their first two tournaments (Naptown, Platinum Cup) to the two best 2028 teams in the country (Hawks and Madlax) is going to go a long way towards helping them recruit the best non-hot bed kids.

More kids on our team turned down Nationals 2028 invite than accepted. Those who did have reported so-so experience and that the talent level on the team is uneven. Top players around here already have busy club schedules and tend to be committed to other sports too. The extra weekday tournaments are fun for kids, but can be a bit much. Seems like a nice option for kids who don't play for top teams already or want extra reps and chance to play with new kids. But unless Nationals offer a more attractive product, hard to see them becoming dominant.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/21 08:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep. Coming for Hawks next. Stint is over.

You need help. These are 5th graders.
But 5th graders in md club lax are old enough to buy beer *zing*

You should stop drinking beer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/08/21 09:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax just dominated Platinum Cup, albeit some middle tier teams. A decent Nationals 2028 team (with Hawks and NL players on roster) and a decent True MD team. Sweetlax Upstate had a tough time...but they will improve, some great athletes

Before too long, this Nationals 2028 team might be rolling people the same way their 2027 team does now. Losing the championship games of their first two tournaments (Naptown, Platinum Cup) to the two best 2028 teams in the country (Hawks and Madlax) is going to go a long way towards helping them recruit the best non-hot bed kids.

More kids on our team turned down Nationals 2028 invite than accepted. Those who did have reported so-so experience and that the talent level on the team is uneven. Top players around here already have busy club schedules and tend to be committed to other sports too. The extra weekday tournaments are fun for kids, but can be a bit much. Seems like a nice option for kids who don't play for top teams already or want extra reps and chance to play with new kids. But unless Nationals offer a more attractive product, hard to see them becoming dominant.

I agree with you. It seems to be a program that is designed better for kids who aren't from around here. But they ran off some success in the past two weeks on the backs of local kids from NL, FCA, and True and a strong goalie from Texas. And it's hard to argue with the quality of product that Nationals is putting on the field at 2027. Our MD kids will always compete with them, but my point was simply that their results at Naptown and Platinum Cup are going to make it a lot easier for them to recruit. Especially combined with their trainings and tryouts moving back to college facilities in the fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/09/21 12:34 AM
What’s the word on Predators? What clubs are kids currently on that are thinking of moving over?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/09/21 01:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s the word on Predators? What clubs are kids currently on that are thinking of moving over?

Who are the predators?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/09/21 12:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s the word on Predators? What clubs are kids currently on that are thinking of moving over?

Who are the predators?


Predators who.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/09/21 01:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s the word on Predators? What clubs are kids currently on that are thinking of moving over?
You mean moving down?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/09/21 04:23 PM
Hawks, Madlax, FCA 2028 squads will drop 20 goals on a new Predators team. Can’t wait!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/09/21 08:05 PM
What is going to be interesting is the makeup of HoCo at this age group after tryouts. If a new club like predators or True Dundalk/Essex can come in and play at a high level, that’s great. At 2028 it looks like there is a solid group with about 30 teams across 20 orgs. It would be great to see Blue Claws, Kelly post, cannons, Forrest hill or Team Md get a few pieces and play elite. Those clubs all some very good players and could make the jump. Uphill battle for new club (not a rebrand) since they would need a core from an existing team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/09/21 08:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s the word on Predators? What clubs are kids currently on that are thinking of moving over?

Who are the predators?


Predators who.

Being a new club- fairly certain HoCo rules prohibit them from playing at Elite level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/09/21 08:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s the word on Predators? What clubs are kids currently on that are thinking of moving over?

Who are the predators?


Predators who.

Being a new club- fairly certain HoCo rules prohibit them from playing at Elite level.

This is correct
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/09/21 09:49 PM
Since Predators is a St. Paul feeder I see it’s future more like a Rock or Breakers Program
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/09/21 11:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s the word on Predators? What clubs are kids currently on that are thinking of moving over?

Who are the predators?


Predators who.

Being a new club- fairly certain HoCo rules prohibit them from playing at Elite level.

This is correct

Fall HoCo will be fun, anyone know if Madlax and the Hawks are planning on playing?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/10/21 12:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s the word on Predators? What clubs are kids currently on that are thinking of moving over?

Who are the predators?


Predators who.

Being a new club- fairly certain HoCo rules prohibit them from playing at Elite level.

This is correct

Fall HoCo will be fun, anyone know if Madlax and the Hawks are planning on playing?
I doubt the Hawks will participate. Kids play other sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/10/21 11:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Since Predators is a St. Paul feeder I see it’s future more like a Rock or Breakers Program


So what happened to koopers?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/10/21 11:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Since Predators is a St. Paul feeder I see it’s future more like a Rock or Breakers Program


So what happened to koopers?

Kooper’s trying to have a 2028 team. Same tryout dates as Predators and also at St Paul’s.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 10:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s the word on Predators? What clubs are kids currently on that are thinking of moving over?

Who are the predators?

Club getting ready to make a big impact in MD. Lot of chatter right now,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 03:36 PM
3D New England looked solid. Had the toughest schedule.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 06:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
3D New England looked solid. Had the toughest schedule.


What?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 06:36 PM
Bad loss in Hershey for Madlax before NLF. They should have sat this one out
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 08:37 PM
NLF National Championship pool for 2028

Hawks
Denver Wlite
Madlax
Exlipse
Express
Express North
Laxachusetts
Prime Time
S2S
Sweetlax Upstate
Thunder
Team 91 Venom
Team 91 Surge

Give us your predictions!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 10:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bad loss in Hershey for Madlax before NLF. They should have sat this one out

Lost to NL again by one. I’m sure coach was calm on the sidelines.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 10:34 PM
Haha he has good intentions. His passion is unmatched.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 10:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bad loss in Hershey for Madlax before NLF. They should have sat this one out

Lost to NL again by one. I’m sure coach was calm on the sidelines.

Yes- can anyone confirm a Cabel meltdown please???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 10:54 PM
No meltdown. Face Offs:

NL 17
Madlax 2
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bad loss in Hershey for Madlax before NLF. They should have sat this one out

Lost to NL again by one. I’m sure coach was calm on the sidelines.

Ummm... they are 10 and 11 year olds who had fun playing lacrosse and bonding at Hershey Park. You people need to get a grip and stop obsessing about a team that you are not a part of but are clearly jealous of. It's an anonymous forum, but go ahead and tell us all what amazing team is lucky enough to have you as part of the organization. You are probably the one screaming wheels and embarrassing the kids and other parents on the sidelines.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 11:08 PM
Took it like the champ he is.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 11:49 PM
ML coach took an unsportsmanlike conduct pen with a minute left and the game tied. Lucky that NL didn't win the game there with a man up. Dude has great teams but needs to chirp less at the refs. Other than that he was fine IMO, engaged and loud but not abusive or profane.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/11/21 11:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No meltdown. Face Offs:

NL 17
Madlax 2


That will do it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 12:02 AM
Good to see Next Level pull one out. Great team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 12:21 AM
Here’s an updated set of the Bored MD dad rankings. I don’t think we’ve learned that much from the last week, but a little churn in the rankings. The big events in no particular order were.

1. Madlax loss to Next Level at Hershey. I don’t think a one goal loss to Next Level is enough to move Madlax down given the rest of their summer resume. Championships at NAL, Vail, and Platinum Cup. So I’d keep them at 2. But it will be interesting to see a Madlax vs Team 91 game at NLF if it happens.

2. NLF field released. NLF obviously is a strong field at the top with 3 of the top 4 teams in the rankings below, but it’s too bad we don’t get to see how teams like 2way and 3D New England would fare against the MD teams. Given the last couple of weeks, it also would be fun to have Next Level there to maximize potential chaos given their summer results. I know the issues with NLF membership, but we can still dream. Pool play at NLF doesn’t have a ton of compelling matchups so the more interesting games will come via the bracket. Should be a fun tournament.

3. 3D New England looking very strong at Primetime in Connecticut. They clearly seem to belong among the best and make a big jump in the rankings.

3. Legacy regained its form at Primetime. The LI teams are tough to sort. Team 91 seems like the top dog. Another good week against LI competition. But making sense of Legacy, Long Island Express, and Mooselax is hard. But just to be clear, LI definitely has a ton of talent and should field some top teams once the top talent sorts a little more.

4. Nationals seem like a strong team based on Platinum Cup and Naptown. If they had a more stable roster I’d probably have them around 7-8. But tough to rank them. Mad Dog National also seems like a player but tough to rank without a more stable roster.


Tier 1
1. Hawks

Tier 2
2. Madlax
3. 2way
4. Team 91
5. Next Level
6. 3D New England
7. BBL

Tier 3
8. FCA
9. Express North
10. Freedom
11. True Annapolis

Tier 4

Too hard to tell precise order of these good teams:

Legacy, Long Island Express, Mad Dog West, 3D Gulf Coast, Mooselax, Laxachusetts, Crabs. There are others that likely belong in this group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 12:28 AM
99 on NL definitely owned the faceoffs. ML coach was right. Ref allowed a timeout before they got in the box. Great game all around.

No meltdown. He knows the rules better than any ref.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 12:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good to see Next Level pull one out. Great team.


Agreed. Great win for NL to end their season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 12:46 AM
Bored Dad, you need to put the last rankings in parentheses so we can see the change for each team. You should also get a corporate sponsor. "ECD Presents Bored Dad 2028 Rankings.". Then retire with the corpo $$$. You'd be a hero to all dads here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 01:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bored Dad, you need to put the last rankings in parentheses so we can see the change for each team. You should also get a corporate sponsor. "ECD Presents Bored Dad 2028 Rankings.". Then retire with the corpo $$$. You'd be a hero to all dads here.


We should help facilitate this! 100% better than the US Club Lax BS ranking they put out
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 01:53 AM
Not as many compelling matchups in pool play as we might have hoped for, as Bored MD Dad points out. Madlax vs Laxachussetts is intriguing, and the Team 91/Express North could be a tell.... with only a bracket of 4 (3 pools), gotta think it’s Hawks, Madlax, and 91 with a wild card 4th. Thunder is a new entrant in the 28’s, they could make some noise.

Mad Dog West Elite is better than the bottom tier in Bored Dad’s rankings. Big and physical, similar to BBL and NL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 01:54 AM
Bored Dad needs to go Insta... take it up a notch.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 02:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bored Dad, you need to put the last rankings in parentheses so we can see the change for each team. You should also get a corporate sponsor. "ECD Presents Bored Dad 2028 Rankings.". Then retire with the corpo $$$. You'd be a hero to all dads here.


We should help facilitate this! 100% better than the US Club Lax BS ranking they put out

Well the fact that bored dad has actually seen many of these teams gives him a leg up 😂
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 02:32 AM
We will find out if the hawks can live up to the hype.
NL is my dark horse.
2way not as good as they were 2 years ago.
LI venom continues to roll.
Legacy beats up on weaker teams but can’t close the door on tough teams.
Will be fun to see these teams evolve and develop over the next few years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 02:34 AM
Madlax was given a gift as far as NLF schedule. They won’t see real competition until brackets
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 02:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haha he has good intentions. His passion is unmatched.

So are his actions!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 03:23 AM
Teams like nationals and others who are just tournament teams shouldn’t ever get consideration imho. It’s the same kids rostered from other ranked teams.

Is 3D NE a consistent all year around team? I’m not familiar.

Next Level would be higher if it was my ranking given they beat both 91 Venom and Madlax. Nothing 2way has done is more impressive.

Good list otherwise as usual.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 09:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
ML coach took an unsportsmanlike conduct pen with a minute left and the game tied. Lucky that NL didn't win the game there with a man up. Dude has great teams but needs to chirp less at the refs. Other than that he was fine IMO, engaged and loud but not abusive or profane.

Amazing, only one unsportsmanlike! New record for Maddux.

He has lowered the bar so low that an unsportsmanlike in an 11 yo lacrosse game is a win.

Haha!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 11:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
ML coach took an unsportsmanlike conduct pen with a minute left and the game tied. Lucky that NL didn't win the game there with a man up. Dude has great teams but needs to chirp less at the refs. Other than that he was fine IMO, engaged and loud but not abusive or profane.

Amazing, only one unsportsmanlike! New record for Maddux.

He has lowered the bar so low that an unsportsmanlike in an 11 yo lacrosse game is a win.

Haha!

I’m not a ML parent or a Cabell fan, but in his defense on this one point I will note that the quality of officiating at Hershey was particularly spotty/bad all weekend. I don’t know if it changed the outcome of any games, but whatever 30-minute online seminar they are requiring for certification isn’t cutting it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 01:16 PM
The ref allowed NL to call timeout as their player was running out of bounds after winning the (yet another) face off, still in the box. With about a minute left in the game, tied 7-7. He was right, refs blew it and he called the guy out. A flag was completely unnecessary... didn’t throw a tantrum.

Did not change the outcome, as NL didn’t score on the man up. But to portray this as an egregious “unsportsmanlike” is absurd and misinformed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 01:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax was given a gift as far as NLF schedule. They won’t see real competition until brackets


They’ve played a TON of lacrosse in the last two weeks. They needed that gift.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 06:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax was given a gift as far as NLF schedule. They won’t see real competition until brackets


They’ve played a TON of lacrosse in the last two weeks. They needed that gift.

Who hasn’t. Thunder and Madlax got big breaks with the schedule. They should have to play each other
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 09:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We will find out if the hawks can live up to the hype.
NL is my dark horse.
2way not as good as they were 2 years ago.
LI venom continues to roll.
Legacy beats up on weaker teams but can’t close the door on tough teams.
Will be fun to see these teams evolve and develop over the next few years.

Don’t think NL is even there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/12/21 10:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We will find out if the hawks can live up to the hype.
NL is my dark horse.
2way not as good as they were 2 years ago.
LI venom continues to roll.
Legacy beats up on weaker teams but can’t close the door on tough teams.
Will be fun to see these teams evolve and develop over the next few years.

Don’t think NL is even there.

They are not there at 2027 either. Any idea why not?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/13/21 12:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We will find out if the hawks can live up to the hype.
NL is my dark horse.
2way not as good as they were 2 years ago.
LI venom continues to roll.
Legacy beats up on weaker teams but can’t close the door on tough teams.
Will be fun to see these teams evolve and develop over the next few years.

Don’t think NL is even there.

They are not there at 2027 either. Any idea why not?

Next Level is not an NLF member and Madlax generally doesn’t want other DC area teams involved in NLF tournaments because it is one of the comparative advantages that CM markets is what you hear.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/13/21 02:50 AM
Madlax got a ridiculously easy schedule, they at least should have played Thunder and not both surge and s2s. Booooooooo
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/13/21 11:43 AM
Who had a tougher draw than Madlax?? All three pools have 1 Elite team, then a bunch of middle dwellers. I’d say the Laxachussetts draw is the toughest early round game that any of the Big 3 will face. Maybe 91’s Express North draw is tougher, but Madlax beat them 9-2 in their only matchup—
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/13/21 01:11 PM
What do we know about the teams in the pinnacle tournament?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/13/21 03:50 PM
Pinnacle event in Boyd’s will come down to Mad Dog West, BBL, and 3D NE assuming that’s the New England team that just won Prime Time.

Mad Dog West takes it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/13/21 04:15 PM
legacy got a cake schedule
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/13/21 07:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do we know about the teams in the pinnacle tournament?


Who cares. The NLF National championship is this weekend. Where the best of the best will be!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/13/21 09:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ref allowed NL to call timeout as their player was running out of bounds after winning the (yet another) face off, still in the box. With about a minute left in the game, tied 7-7. He was right, refs blew it and he called the guy out. A flag was completely unnecessary... didn’t throw a tantrum.

Did not change the outcome, as NL didn’t score on the man up. But to portray this as an egregious “unsportsmanlike” is absurd and misinformed.

Stop with the toxic parenting. Don't blame the FOGOs. Faceoffs were pretty even. And don't excuse poor behavior. It's not egregious to characterize an "unsportsmanlike conduct penalty" as "unsportsmanlike." The refs weren't great, but they were right there. You were not. Did you see any other coaches take penalties all tournament?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/13/21 11:25 PM
Ok NL dad who stormed the field of his 11 year old’s lacrosse game. Says it all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 12:14 AM
Sounds like this Madlax/NL game was must see. Sad we all missed it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 01:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok NL dad who stormed the field of his 11 year old’s lacrosse game. Says it all.

Haha someone is still upset I see...Mitchell was carried off the field on the shoulders of 4 NL dads!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 02:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok NL dad who stormed the field of his 11 year old’s lacrosse game. Says it all.

Haha someone is still upset I see...Mitchell was carried off the field on the shoulders of 4 NL dads!


You won the Super Bowl!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 02:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok NL dad who stormed the field of his 11 year old’s lacrosse game. Says it all.

What's more pathetic? Joyfully celebrating an 11-year old team's win or berating a bunch of 11-year olds for losing? I'll go with positive Next Level folks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 10:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok NL dad who stormed the field of his 11 year old’s lacrosse game. Says it all.

What's more pathetic? Joyfully celebrating an 11-year old team's win or berating a bunch of 11-year olds for losing? I'll go with positive Next Level folks.

Ever notice how it’s always MadLax trying to excuse bad behavior?

You never hear about an issue with FCA and Crabs or Hawks and next level. It’s always MadLax. That tells you a lot.

Toxic coach, toxic culture.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 11:30 AM
Not on either team but a number of the NL parents are absolutely toxic. I find them worse than any ML parent hands down.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 11:39 AM
looks like a schedule change for Madlax in nlf
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 01:37 PM
Haha. Pretty pathetic.

But this win does put to rest that rumors that the NL team is on the downslope and all the good players will leave.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 02:25 PM
There was nothing pathetic about the end of the Madlax/Next Level game. I bet you weren't even there. It was a hard fought battle with a lot of emotion on both sides of the field - parents and players. It was exciting and NL came out on top in a very exciting finish. The ML coach got a flag for coming out of the coaching box to protest what he thought was a bad call. That happens all the time and doesn't mean anyone is unhinged. Parents and players from both teams left the field with zero animosity. It was what youth sports should be all about with zero drama. Anyone saying otherwise is just looking to troll one of the teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ML coach got a flag for coming out of the coaching box to protest what he thought was a bad call. That happens all the time and doesn't mean anyone is unhinged.

umm... this DOES NOT happen all the time and to be frank should not happen at all in a youth sports game at all- we are talking about kids folks...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 02:45 PM
Have you been to many youth lacrosse games? Coaches contest calls all the time. If this offends you so much, try soccer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 05:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not on either team but a number of the NL parents are absolutely toxic. I find them worse than any ML parent hands down.

Not true in my experience.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 05:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There was nothing pathetic about the end of the Madlax/Next Level game. I bet you weren't even there. It was a hard fought battle with a lot of emotion on both sides of the field - parents and players. It was exciting and NL came out on top in a very exciting finish. The ML coach got a flag for coming out of the coaching box to protest what he thought was a bad call. That happens all the time and doesn't mean anyone is unhinged. Parents and players from both teams left the field with zero animosity. It was what youth sports should be all about with zero drama. Anyone saying otherwise is just looking to troll one of the teams.

Doesn’t it get tiring making excuses for him?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 05:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ML coach got a flag for coming out of the coaching box to protest what he thought was a bad call. That happens all the time and doesn't mean anyone is unhinged.

umm... this DOES NOT happen all the time and to be frank should not happen at all in a youth sports game at all- we are talking about kids folks...

We are talking about kids, but we’re also talking about Cabel Maddox so the bar is much lower!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 05:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you been to many youth lacrosse games? Coaches contest calls all the time. If this offends you so much, try soccer.

They do, but usually they don’t get unsportsmanlike calls.

I know, I know… hard to image but it’s true.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 05:18 PM
And again— the coach who got the “unsportsmanlike” penalty with a minute to play was CORRECT, the ref was not. The NL face off player had won the face off, was being run off towards the NL bench and the NL coach called timeout before he was pushed out— he was NOT in the offensive zone, not even close. The rules are the rules, clearly the ref didn’t know them. Can say a lot about Cabell, one thing you can’t say is he doesn’t know the rules. He was 100% right and it was a very important time in the game (1 minute left, score tied). All he said (loudly) was “we are playing NCAA rules.”

So no, I’m not incorrect. It was a horrible penalty, and it should never have happened. Instead of playing man down the last minute, Madlax should have had the ball.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 05:20 PM
Any idea if FCA Blue is breaking up? I know they had some coaching issues with both teams. If so, where are they going?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And again— the coach who got the “unsportsmanlike” penalty with a minute to play was CORRECT, the ref was not. The NL face off player had won the face off, was being run off towards the NL bench and the NL coach called timeout before he was pushed out— he was NOT in the offensive zone, not even close. The rules are the rules, clearly the ref didn’t know them. Can say a lot about Cabell, one thing you can’t say is he doesn’t know the rules. He was 100% right and it was a very important time in the game (1 minute left, score tied). All he said (loudly) was “we are playing NCAA rules.”

So no, I’m not incorrect. It was a horrible penalty, and it should never have happened. Instead of playing man down the last minute, Madlax should have had the ball.

ML lost. Time to move on to the next Cabell incident.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 06:52 PM
Good luck to the Annapolis Hawks and Madlax this weekend! Bring that National Championship back to MD!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 07:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And again— the coach who got the “unsportsmanlike” penalty with a minute to play was CORRECT, the ref was not. The NL face off player had won the face off, was being run off towards the NL bench and the NL coach called timeout before he was pushed out— he was NOT in the offensive zone, not even close. The rules are the rules, clearly the ref didn’t know them. Can say a lot about Cabell, one thing you can’t say is he doesn’t know the rules. He was 100% right and it was a very important time in the game (1 minute left, score tied). All he said (loudly) was “we are playing NCAA rules.”

So no, I’m not incorrect. It was a horrible penalty, and it should never have happened. Instead of playing man down the last minute, Madlax should have had the ball.

ML lost. Time to move on to the next Cabell incident.

But he was correct about a call, so his behavior is excused I guess. Amazing contortions you guys go through!

Nicely done NL!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to the Annapolis Hawks and Madlax this weekend! Bring that National Championship back to MD!


Best of luck to both teams. Hoping for an All-Maryland final!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 07:27 PM
NL parent here. Concur with those who reported Sunday’s championship game in Hershey was hard fought and a thriller to the finish. Would have been rough to be on the losing end of that one. Two skilled, well-coached teams playing excellent lacrosse for this age group. These two 2028 squads will likely go back and forth for years to come.

I will also say that, for such an intense game, both parent groups were respectable in their behavior. And this board’s dumping on the MadLax head coach, while very fair/deserved for the vast majority of my previous in-game observations of him, is unwarranted as to this game and as to the particular unsportsmanlike call. He was neither unhinged nor abusive during this game. In all honestly, I was relieved that NL didn’t win the game on the EMO from the coach’s penalty. Would have taken the W and tourney championship, of course, but some would surely have assigned an asterisk to it.

Good luck to all the teams playing this weekend @ NLF. Only wish the NL boys were there, too!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/14/21 07:57 PM
Not a ML fan, but if the ML coach had called a time out in this situation; you all would be calling him unethical. What a double standard.

I blame the NL coach more than the ref. I assume things were happening so fast he had no idea what had happened. He called the timeout because the coach requested it. It is on the coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/15/21 03:02 AM
NL parent here. Some of these posts are definitely just trying to stir the pot. Parents from other teams were watching the final game at Hershey and my guess is some of them are commenting. Madlax & NL tents were next to each other and the two teams -- players and families -- get along well. There was good sportsmanship before and after the game. Madlax kids are super talented and the parents are very nice. They are well coached and always come to play. We wish them the best at NLF!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/15/21 04:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax got a ridiculously easy schedule, they at least should have played Thunder and not both surge and s2s. Booooooooo

I guess surge backed out. Good decision.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/15/21 09:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NL parent here. Some of these posts are definitely just trying to stir the pot. Parents from other teams were watching the final game at Hershey and my guess is some of them are commenting. Madlax & NL tents were next to each other and the two teams -- players and families -- get along well. There was good sportsmanship before and after the game. Madlax kids are super talented and the parents are very nice. They are well coached and always come to play. We wish them the best at NLF!

Thanks MadLax mom!.

Nobody is stirring the pot, we just all see the reality and notice how you leave out sportsmanship during the game.

No excuse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/15/21 02:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NL parent here. Some of these posts are definitely just trying to stir the pot. Parents from other teams were watching the final game at Hershey and my guess is some of them are commenting. Madlax & NL tents were next to each other and the two teams -- players and families -- get along well. There was good sportsmanship before and after the game. Madlax kids are super talented and the parents are very nice. They are well coached and always come to play. We wish them the best at NLF!

Thanks Mom ! Tell Coach C you did well !!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/17/21 12:41 AM
It looks like Express is a shoe in for the 4th position.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/17/21 02:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks like Express is a shoe in for the 4th position.


Fields at NLF are very bad. They’ve gotten a bunch of heavy weather
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/17/21 07:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks like Express is a shoe in for the 4th position.

They have played the same teams as the Hawks and have beaten both worse. Who knows, maybe the Hawks are the 4th team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/17/21 10:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There was nothing pathetic about the end of the Madlax/Next Level game. I bet you weren't even there. It was a hard fought battle with a lot of emotion on both sides of the field - parents and players. It was exciting and NL came out on top in a very exciting finish. The ML coach got a flag for coming out of the coaching box to protest what he thought was a bad call. That happens all the time and doesn't mean anyone is unhinged. Parents and players from both teams left the field with zero animosity. It was what youth sports should be all about with zero drama. Anyone saying otherwise is just looking to troll one of the teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ML coach got a flag for coming out of the coaching box to protest what he thought was a bad call. That happens all the time and doesn't mean anyone is unhinged.

umm... this DOES NOT happen all the time and to be frank should not happen at all in a youth sports game at all- we are talking about kids folks...
UH…yeah it does!!. Coaches come out of the box ALL the time. Just depends on what ref you get when it comes to getting a flag for it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/17/21 11:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks like Express is a shoe in for the 4th position.

They have played the same teams as the Hawks and have beaten both worse. Who knows, maybe the Hawks are the 4th team?

Maybe. We’ll know after today. Games are played on the field, not these message boards.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/17/21 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks like Express is a shoe in for the 4th position.

They have played the same teams as the Hawks and have beaten both worse. Who knows, maybe the Hawks are the 4th team?

Maybe. We’ll know after today. Games are played on the field, not these message boards.

Express played their games in the stadium turf. Hawks were on the mud bowl fields. It’ll sort itself out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/17/21 06:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks like Express is a shoe in for the 4th position.

They have played the same teams as the Hawks and have beaten both worse. Who knows, maybe the Hawks are the 4th team?

Maybe. We’ll know after today. Games are played on the field, not these message boards.

Express played their games in the stadium turf. Hawks were on the mud bowl fields. It’ll sort itself out.

Yep, It will Hawks by 3
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/17/21 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks like Express is a shoe in for the 4th position.

They have played the same teams as the Hawks and have beaten both worse. Who knows, maybe the Hawks are the 4th team?

Maybe. We’ll know after today. Games are played on the field, not these message boards.

Express played their games in the stadium turf. Hawks were on the mud bowl fields. It’ll sort itself out.

Yep, It will Hawks by 3

Or by 8, field was much faster, good for the Hawks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/17/21 11:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks like Express is a shoe in for the 4th position.

They have played the same teams as the Hawks and have beaten both worse. Who knows, maybe the Hawks are the 4th team?

Maybe. We’ll know after today. Games are played on the field, not these message boards.

Express played their games in the stadium turf. Hawks were on the mud bowl fields. It’ll sort itself out.

Yep, It will Hawks by 3

Or by 8, field was much faster, good for the Hawks.



Hawks rained out in semis with Venom
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 12:41 AM
NLF living up to its hype!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 01:13 AM
As a Hawks parent I will say that Venom is the best team I’ve seen, it was only a half in the rain, but they are good, well coached and play hard.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 01:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NLF living up to its hype!!


Worst run tourney I’ve seen in a while. Weather wreaking havoc


Madlax and Hawks both leading in their semi final games before weather hit

Supposed to rain all night as well
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 01:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NLF living up to its hype!!

Worst run tourney I’ve seen in a while. Weather wreaking havoc

Madlax and Hawks both leading in their semi final games before weather hit

Supposed to rain all night as well

We were waiting for a field and an older Hawks team played a full quarter before being told another team was coming to play. They ended up playing 5 quarters. Should never happen, had to be the tourneys fault since both teams they played didn’t get the memo.

Lame.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 01:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NLF living up to its hype!!

Worst run tourney I’ve seen in a while. Weather wreaking havoc

Madlax and Hawks both leading in their semi final games before weather hit

Supposed to rain all night as well

We were waiting for a field and an older Hawks team played a full quarter before being told another team was coming to play. They ended up playing 5 quarters. Should never happen, had to be the tourneys fault since both teams they played didn’t get the memo.

Lame.

It was a 2025 game

Zero vendors of any kind, no food or water, no t-shirts

NLF not winning people over this year. Competition is great, fields and organization not so much
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 02:56 AM
91 was up 2-0, then hawks took a 3-2 lead right before halftime. It was a lot of fun to watch. I would put 91 up in the tier with our 2 Maryland teams. 3 excellent teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 03:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NLF living up to its hype!!


Worst run tourney I’ve seen in a while. Weather wreaking havoc


Madlax and Hawks both leading in their semi final games before weather hit

Supposed to rain all night as well

Talking about match ups not how it’s being run
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 10:04 AM
7am restart. Eeeeesh!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 02:05 PM
MADLAX for the win!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 02:33 PM
MADLAX + 3 Refs for the win!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 02:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MADLAX + 3 Refs for the win!!

Haha, that is a good one!

Great game by both teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 02:54 PM
Hawks man down for 10-15 penalties including 2 min non-releaseable. 1-1 at half. Not one penalty called on MADLAX.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 03:24 PM
Hawks were 1/2 step behind most of the game defensively thus drawing bad penalties against the smaller MadLax attack.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 03:28 PM
Typical Hawks response: it was the refs.

No- it was a complete beat down. They got frustrated and picked up 5-6 cross checks from behind.

Hawks were beaten in every facet of the game. They are a fantastic team, maybe #1 in the country— but Madlax came to play and dominated both ends this am.

Great players on both teams, it just happened to be Madlax’s day.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 03:37 PM
Not going to blame the refs. Definitely some mystery calls that threw the Hawks off their game, but credit to Madlax. They did what they needed to do to win.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 03:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not going to blame the refs. Definitely some mystery calls that threw the Hawks off their game, but credit to Madlax. They did what they needed to do to win.

It was a wow factor Beatdown by Madlax. Game wasnt even close. Not that unexpected to be sure by me,.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 04:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Typical Hawks response: it was the refs.

No- it was a complete beat down. They got frustrated and picked up 5-6 cross checks from behind.

Hawks were beaten in every facet of the game. They are a fantastic team, maybe #1 in the country— but Madlax came to play and dominated both ends this am.

Great players on both teams, it just happened to be Madlax’s day.

Take that beat down noise somewhere else. Hawks parents weren’t in here screaming beat down when they beat Madlax 3 times in a row this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 04:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not going to blame the refs. Definitely some mystery calls that threw the Hawks off their game, but credit to Madlax. They did what they needed to do to win.

It was a wow factor Beatdown by Madlax. Game wasnt even close. Not that unexpected to be sure by me,.

Because you’re a typical dmv BadPerson.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 04:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not going to blame the refs. Definitely some mystery calls that threw the Hawks off their game, but credit to Madlax. They did what they needed to do to win.

It was a wow factor Beatdown by Madlax. Game wasnt even close. Not that unexpected to be sure by me,.


Stay humble.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 04:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not going to blame the refs. Definitely some mystery calls that threw the Hawks off their game, but credit to Madlax. They did what they needed to do to win.

It was a wow factor Beatdown by Madlax. Game wasnt even close. Not that unexpected to be sure by me,.

Why not unexpected? Werent hawks 3-0 v Madlax this year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not going to blame the refs. Definitely some mystery calls that threw the Hawks off their game, but credit to Madlax. They did what they needed to do to win.

It was a wow factor Beatdown by Madlax. Game wasnt even close. Not that unexpected to be sure by me,.

You all should definitely enjoy it. You were the better team today. Tough loss for our boys, but they’ll be okay.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 04:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not going to blame the refs. Definitely some mystery calls that threw the Hawks off their game, but credit to Madlax. They did what they needed to do to win.

It was a wow factor Beatdown by Madlax. Game wasnt even close. Not that unexpected to be sure by me,.

You all should definitely enjoy it. You were the better team today. Tough loss for our boys, but they’ll be okay.

Any given day people
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 04:59 PM
It was a great game all around. Both Hawks and MadLax are fantastic teams. The fact that the two teams that went to the finals were from the DMV area is great for all of us.

Congratulations to both teams for phenomenal seasons and for having exceptional squads.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 05:16 PM
Great win for Madlax against a Hawks team that has t lost this year. Which is an impressive stat on its own. Hawks are a great team— Madlax needed a huge effort, they got one.

Any Given Sunday! Let all these boys enjoy the rest of the summer doing things OTHER than lacrosse, then let’s get back at each other in September! Great run this year Hawks— nice win today Madlax!! Go MD/DC lax!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 06:08 PM
Madlax won 70%+ at the face off x and won the ground ball battle. In great matchups like this one, that’s the difference.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax won 70%+ at the face off x and won the ground ball battle. In great matchups like this one, that’s the difference.


Same Fogo that they used in Hoco? or a summer pick up
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 07:46 PM
Same two MadLax has always had. They had great days today!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 09:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks man down for 10-15 penalties including 2 min non-releaseable. 1-1 at half. Not one penalty called on MADLAX.

How many goals did MadLax score 6 on 6? One?

How is 10-15 to 0 even possible with penalties?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 09:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Same two MadLax has always had. They had great days today!


Good for them. Congrats to Madlax (and Hawks) for representing the mid-Atlantic!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 10:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not going to blame the refs. Definitely some mystery calls that threw the Hawks off their game, but credit to Madlax. They did what they needed to do to win.

It was a wow factor Beatdown by Madlax. Game wasnt even close. Not that unexpected to be sure by me,.

Because you’re a typical dmv BadPerson.

Love that BOTC auto-corrects laxer to “bad person”.

Shame on these Madlax trolls who come in running their mouths about beat downs and garbage. Act like you’ve been there before. Hawks were 32-1 on the season. Madlax had a ridiculous good season.

Hawks beat Venom and parents walked away together talking about how we hope they can play against each other soon. Some of you Madlax folks- maybe is Cabbel himself, need to move your range rovers out of the handicapped spots at the humble pie store. Because WE ALL KNOW you’re gonna eat that crow.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 10:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not going to blame the refs. Definitely some mystery calls that threw the Hawks off their game, but credit to Madlax. They did what they needed to do to win.

It was a wow factor Beatdown by Madlax. Game wasnt even close. Not that unexpected to be sure by me,.

Because you’re a typical dmv BadPerson.

Love that BOTC auto-corrects laxer to “bad person”.

Shame on these Madlax trolls who come in running their mouths about beat downs and garbage. Act like you’ve been there before. Hawks were 32-1 on the season. Madlax had a ridiculous good season.

Hawks beat Venom and parents walked away together talking about how we hope they can play against each other soon. Some of you Madlax folks- maybe is Cabbel himself, need to move your range rovers out of the handicapped spots at the humble pie store. Because WE ALL KNOW you’re gonna eat that crow.

Easy there Hawk Dad. Lost really created some Hawkward moments in Vineyard and Kaki country around the Athens of America.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 11:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not going to blame the refs. Definitely some mystery calls that threw the Hawks off their game, but credit to Madlax. They did what they needed to do to win.

It was a wow factor Beatdown by Madlax. Game wasnt even close. Not that unexpected to be sure by me,.

Because you’re a typical dmv BadPerson.

Love that BOTC auto-corrects laxer to “bad person”.

Shame on these Madlax trolls who come in running their mouths about beat downs and garbage. Act like you’ve been there before. Hawks were 32-1 on the season. Madlax had a ridiculous good season.

Hawks beat Venom and parents walked away together talking about how we hope they can play against each other soon. Some of you Madlax folks- maybe is Cabbel himself, need to move your range rovers out of the handicapped spots at the humble pie store. Because WE ALL KNOW you’re gonna eat that crow.

Easy there Hawk Dad. Lost really created some Hawkward moments in Vineyard and Kaki country around the Athens of America.

Not really. You spelled khaki wrong.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/18/21 11:52 PM
To the guy who asked how many even man goals Madlax scored— answer is 6 of the 7 were at even strength. It was 6 on 6 domination. Someone used the expression a while back, “sometimes you’re the bug, other times you’re the windshield.” The Hawks have been getting it done all year, today they ran into a bunch of determined Madlax kids.

Madlax never made excuses for the prior 3 losses, other than losing about 90% of the face offs (kudos to the Hawks FO, he’s legit). Whining about the refs this one is utterly pathetic.

Huge respect for the Hawks kids. Incredible team that will only get better, and very well coached. The dude whining about refs— Makita power hammerhead.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/19/21 12:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To the guy who asked how many even man goals Madlax scored— answer is 6 of the 7 were at even strength. It was 6 on 6 domination. Someone used the expression a while back, “sometimes you’re the bug, other times you’re the windshield.” The Hawks have been getting it done all year, today they ran into a bunch of determined Madlax kids.

Madlax never made excuses for the prior 3 losses, other than losing about 90% of the face offs (kudos to the Hawks FO, he’s legit). Whining about the refs this one is utterly pathetic.

Huge respect for the Hawks kids. Incredible team that will only get better, and very well coached. The dude whining about refs— Makita power hammerhead.

BS about 6 of 7, I was there, no shot!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/19/21 10:01 PM
The tape does not lie. 6 of the 7 were even up buddy. Some were delayed P, but the only one man up was from #5... 5th goal of the game well into the second half.

Lot of popping off from Hawks dads back in May, trashing Madlax, the coaches, “how could we let our kids play for that program,” etc.... well, that’s why. Great kids who work hard and have fun. They laid it on the Hawks BigTime on Sunday. The Hawks had tilted the field in their favor the last 3 outings as they’re a bunch of little studs. But don’t gimme this refs threw the game garbage. Total bush league...

Hopefully these kids will get to push one another at HoCo in a few months. Hawks playing?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/19/21 10:18 PM
No Hawks in fall HoCo. As of now…

I’d rather the Hawks play Madlax and 91 Venom 10’times than the competition you’ll see in fall HOco.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/19/21 11:44 PM
Hawks went 3-1 against Madlax for the season. One game win = domination? It was 1-1 at half and ended 7-2, Madlax dad… not like the 10-3 Hawks lead at half during the HOCO championship when the Hawks emptied their bench for the 2nd half.

Not on Tourney Machine, Madlax took the short road to the Championship - 1/2 game on Sunday AM riding the lead from Saturday’s rained out game. Hawks led on Saturday by 1 goal, but agreed to play a full game against a very good Venom team on Sunday AM before advancing.

Not saying it was smart given they would play Madlax.

Both teams are very good - tip of the hat to both!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/20/21 12:30 AM
I’d watch my son lose to Madlax 100 times and still never think, “Maybe I’d want my son to play for that coach.”

It has nothing to do with winning or losing a game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/20/21 12:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks went 3-1 against Madlax for the season. One game win = domination? It was 1-1 at half and ended 7-2, Madlax dad… not like the 10-3 Hawks lead at half during the HOCO championship when the Hawks emptied their bench for the 2nd half.

Not on Tourney Machine, Madlax took the short road to the Championship - 1/2 game on Sunday AM riding the lead from Saturday’s rained out game. Hawks led on Saturday by 1 goal, but agreed to play a full game against a very good Venom team on Sunday AM before advancing.

Not saying it was smart given they would play Madlax.

Both teams are very good - tip of the hat to both!

Got it. Excuse Excuse and another Excuse. Try not to be so Hawkward
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/20/21 01:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks went 3-1 against Madlax for the season. One game win = domination? It was 1-1 at half and ended 7-2, Madlax dad… not like the 10-3 Hawks lead at half during the HOCO championship when the Hawks emptied their bench for the 2nd half.

Not on Tourney Machine, Madlax took the short road to the Championship - 1/2 game on Sunday AM riding the lead from Saturday’s rained out game. Hawks led on Saturday by 1 goal, but agreed to play a full game against a very good Venom team on Sunday AM before advancing.

Not saying it was smart given they would play Madlax.

Both teams are very good - tip of the hat to both!

Got it. Excuse Excuse and another Excuse. Try not to be so Hawkward

This term is spreading
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/20/21 01:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’d watch my son lose to Madlax 100 times and still never think, “Maybe I’d want my son to play for that coach.”

It has nothing to do with winning or losing a game.

Bingo!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/20/21 01:28 AM
So is this 91 team on the same level as madhawks? Are they worth the hype? I hope my sons team plays them next season
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/20/21 01:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks went 3-1 against Madlax for the season. One game win = domination? It was 1-1 at half and ended 7-2, Madlax dad… not like the 10-3 Hawks lead at half during the HOCO championship when the Hawks emptied their bench for the 2nd half.

Not on Tourney Machine, Madlax took the short road to the Championship - 1/2 game on Sunday AM riding the lead from Saturday’s rained out game. Hawks led on Saturday by 1 goal, but agreed to play a full game against a very good Venom team on Sunday AM before advancing.

Not saying it was smart given they would play Madlax.

Both teams are very good - tip of the hat to both!

Got it. Excuse Excuse and another Excuse. Try not to be so Hawkward

Hawkward? The bar for clever at MadLax is low!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/20/21 02:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So is this 91 team on the same level as madhawks? Are they worth the hype? I hope my sons team plays them next season

They are on the same level as the Hawks. Very well coached. Aggressive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region - 07/20/21 11:20 AM
Is this guy really saying that because Madlax played 24 minutes on Sunday am in the semis, and the Hawks played 40 minutes, b