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Posted By: TM@BOTC Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/30/18 04:44 PM
Use this thread to discuss the Boys 2022-9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 Season
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/30/18 05:57 PM
Tryouts are right around the corner. Which teams will see significant movement?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/30/18 10:38 PM
Looneys 2022 shutting down. Can't find coach. Where are these kids going?

LaxWorld Merging with Greene Turtle. Are most going to GT?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/31/18 01:08 AM
will be interesting to see what the 2022 kids playing on 2021 Koopers do. Have heard the player going to Calvert Hall is going to FCA, Heard the 2 twins are going to Crabs. They have 2 good goalies. Will some kids who have been with their clubs for several years move because of where they attend HS?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/31/18 01:44 AM
Looneys kids going to koopers
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/31/18 11:47 AM
Is Koopers fielding a joint AA team with Dukes again?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/31/18 02:31 PM
What is happening the MD91 team? Is MM still going to coach the team?
Gd
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/31/18 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is happening the MD91 team? Is MM still going to coach the team?
Gd


Why would he?? Kid is 2023 now. There is NO doubt that it is where he will end up. Wonder if MM will follow him thru HS and College as coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/31/18 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is happening the MD91 team? Is MM still going to coach the team?
Gd


Mass exodus of the 22's and 23's; MM is a cancer. 23's going to Koopers, MM son and a few others are coming down to 23 for the Spring and I can tell you know one on the 23 Team is happy about that!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/31/18 07:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is happening the MD91 team? Is MM still going to coach the team?
Gd


Mass exodus of the 22's and 23's; MM is a cancer. 23's going to Koopers, MM son and a few others are coming down to 23 for the Spring and I can tell you know one on the 23 Team is happy about that!

What is worse, getting MM and his son or two season and literally no wins.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/31/18 10:17 PM
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/01/18 02:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is happening the MD91 team? Is MM still going to coach the team?
Gd


Mass exodus of the 22's and 23's; MM is a cancer. 23's going to Koopers, MM son and a few others are coming down to 23 for the Spring and I can tell you know one on the 23 Team is happy about that!

What is worse, getting MM and his son or two season and literally no wins.


Man. It must be bad. All current 2023 players were invited back even thought the team is winless in two seasons at elite, but rumor has it many are going to Koopers, which played in the B championship game?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/01/18 02:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is happening the MD91 team? Is MM still going to coach the team?
Gd


Mass exodus of the 22's and 23's; MM is a cancer. 23's going to Koopers, MM son and a few others are coming down to 23 for the Spring and I can tell you know one on the 23 Team is happy about that!

What is worse, getting MM and his son or two season and literally no wins.


Thats not very good choices to choose from !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/01/18 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is happening the MD91 team? Is MM still going to coach the team?
Gd


Mass exodus of the 22's and 23's; MM is a cancer. 23's going to Koopers, MM son and a few others are coming down to 23 for the Spring and I can tell you know one on the 23 Team is happy about that!

What is worse, getting MM and his son or two season and literally no wins.


Thats not very good choices to choose from !


I think the answer is to swallow your pride and play AA at 2023. To have MM and his 22's come down to play at the 23 level is an absolute nightmare for anyone on the 23 team currently. This team has gotten better but needs to being playing at the AA level in order to be competitive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/01/18 04:07 PM
So 91 2022s drop to 91 2023, and 91 2023 goes to Koopers 2023? And Looneys 2022s fo Koopers 2022? And the Koopers twins playing up on 2021 don’t drop back to Koopers 2022 but go instead to Crabs 2022? Did the Looneys 2022 coach resign or is he also returning to Koopers?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/01/18 05:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So 91 2022s drop to 91 2023, and 91 2023 goes to Koopers 2023? And Looneys 2022s fo Koopers 2022? And the Koopers twins playing up on 2021 don’t drop back to Koopers 2022 but go instead to Crabs 2022? Did the Looneys 2022 coach resign or is he also returning to Koopers?


Sounds like " As The World Turns " soap opera
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/01/18 10:56 PM
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 12:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 01:59 AM
Why is Looneys 22's folding ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 11:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.



If thats where he is going. It will be interesting watching Head coach of McD and MM interact over the next few years. What are odds that MM gets a coaching job at McD or at least attempts too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 11:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year


Will win MIAA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 12:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year


Will win MIAA


Better Hawks and API players went to either dematha or St. John's
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 01:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.



If thats where he is going. It will be interesting watching Head coach of McD and MM interact over the next few years. What are odds that MM gets a coaching job at McD or at least attempts too.


He has 2 sons
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.



If thats where he is going. It will be interesting watching Head coach of McD and MM interact over the next few years. What are odds that MM gets a coaching job at McD or at least attempts too.

McDonogh can't afford another scandal in the athletic dept. That would be a bad move.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 01:58 PM
Best hawks 2022 player went to Landon
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.



If thats where he is going. It will be interesting watching Head coach of McD and MM interact over the next few years. What are odds that MM gets a coaching job at McD or at least attempts too.


At St Paul’s last year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 03:12 PM
I've heard that Landon picked up several really good rising Freshman from Crab's, Hawk's and DCE. It will be interesting to see how things shake out come spring.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.



If thats where he is going. It will be interesting watching Head coach of McD and MM interact over the next few years. What are odds that MM gets a coaching job at McD or at least attempts too.


At St Paul’s last year

Reclassing and headed to McDonogh.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.



If thats where he is going. It will be interesting watching Head coach of McD and MM interact over the next few years. What are odds that MM gets a coaching job at McD or at least attempts too.


A few years ago he was a Gilman assistant coach
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 06:08 PM
Twins are not going to Crabs. Not sure where that is coming from. A bunch of Looneys kids will try out for Crabs. If they don't make it they'll go to Koopers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Twins are not going to Crabs. Not sure where that is coming from. A bunch of Looneys kids will try out for Crabs. If they don't make it they'll go to Koopers.


Why did Looney’s fold?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year


Will win MIAA


Are you saying they will win the MIAA Varsity because of the 2022 API and hawks class coming in?
maybe JV
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 08:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year


Will win MIAA


Are you saying they will win the MIAA Varsity because of the 2022 API and hawks class coming in?
maybe JV


JV this year easy... Next year playoffs MIAA Varsity... Following year MIAA Champions ..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.



If thats where he is going. It will be interesting watching Head coach of McD and MM interact over the next few years. What are odds that MM gets a coaching job at McD or at least attempts too.


A few years ago he was a Gilman assistant coach


Exactly. Thats why I am wondering if he applies for some assistant coaching position. Everyone has heard the stories of his favorite player and the rest of the players. He hasnt let anyone coach him besides himself. Look at armor on his arms. You can only protect them so long, eventually they need to fly solo.
Reclassing always helps..but will it be enough !

MM is typical of what you are seeing in the parents who obsess over lacrosse. Especially the ones that did not do a prefirst. Once they get to 8th.. If they cant standout or are average player..Only one choice. Most of time more practice wont get it ... Its .Holdback/reclass... MM isnt the only one doing it either.

Unfortunately with travel so easy for tournaments. All the regions are seeing what the players on Eastcoast are doing with prefirst/reclass.. South, West ,etc are reclassing in 8th grade now on huge numbers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 09:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year


Will win MIAA


Are you saying they will win the MIAA Varsity because of the 2022 API and hawks class coming in?
maybe JV


JV this year easy... Next year playoffs MIAA Varsity... Following year MIAA Champions ..


Clearly you've never coached or even played on an A Conference championship team at the Varsity level. If you had you wouldn't be pontificating...in other words its really tough to take a perennial cellar dweller and win a championship much less make the semis.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 09:58 PM
Watch out for a sleeper team coming out of nowhere to dominate JV this Spring. Will go undefeated.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/18 10:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year


Will win MIAA


Are you saying they will win the MIAA Varsity because of the 2022 API and hawks class coming in?
maybe JV


JV this year easy... Next year playoffs MIAA Varsity... Following year MIAA Champions ..


Blah blah blah!!!! Best Hawks kids going elsewhere. API adds nothing try again.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/03/18 02:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year


Will win MIAA


Better Hawks and API players went to either dematha or St. John's


Is one of the Hawks goalies really a 2023 grad year? Will he drop down to the 2023 Hawks Team this year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/03/18 02:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year


Will win MIAA


Are you saying they will win the MIAA Varsity because of the 2022 API and hawks class coming in?
maybe JV


JV this year easy... Next year playoffs MIAA Varsity... Following year MIAA Champions ..


Blah blah blah!!!! Best Hawks kids going elsewhere. API adds nothing try again.


Someone is jealous !!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/03/18 01:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year


Will win MIAA


Better Hawks and API players went to either dematha or St. John's


Is one of the Hawks goalies really a 2023 grad year? Will he drop down to the 2023 Hawks Team this year?

Where else is he going to play when the other boys are playing in high school?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/03/18 08:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year


Will win MIAA


Better Hawks and API players went to either dematha or St. John's


Is one of the Hawks goalies really a 2023 grad year? Will he drop down to the 2023 Hawks Team this year?

Where else is he going to play when the other boys are playing in high school?

Word is he is headed to Crabs. Played with them in LI at NLF.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/03/18 11:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year


Will win MIAA


Are you saying they will win the MIAA Varsity because of the 2022 API and hawks class coming in?
maybe JV


JV this year easy... Next year playoffs MIAA Varsity... Following year MIAA Champions ..


Clearly you've never coached or even played on an A Conference championship team at the Varsity level. If you had you wouldn't be pontificating...in other words its really tough to take a perennial cellar dweller and win a championship much less make the semis.


Clearly you have no idea the talent the will be there shortly
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/04/18 08:46 AM
JV this year easy... Next year playoffs MIAA Varsity... Following year MIAA Champions .. [/quote]

Clearly you've never coached or even played on an A Conference championship team at the Varsity level. If you had you wouldn't be pontificating...in other words its really tough to take a perennial cellar dweller and win a championship much less make the semis.
[/quote]

Clearly you have no idea the talent the will be there shortly[/quote]

Talent and potential alone don’t win championships. Player development, game planning and in game adjustments are equally important. Having the best building materials doesn’t guarantee the house will be well built. You need a seasoned successful builder and some great sub-contractors (assistant coaches) who work well together. Talent is great but having great blueprint, experience making critical coaching decisions in A conference or top level collegiate lacrosse is equally important. Given the influx of talent, I would be disappointed if Spading didn’t make the playoffs (the top 6) during the next two years but making the semis and winning a championship is an aspirational goal at best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/04/18 03:02 PM
Clearly you have no idea the talent the will be there shortly[/quote]

same song, different verse
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/04/18 04:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.


https://ilovetowatchyouplay.com/2016/01/12/the-harsh-truth-of-holding-kids-back/

https://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/s...ing-their-kids-back-in-6th-7th-8th-grade
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/04/18 08:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.


https://ilovetowatchyouplay.com/2016/01/12/the-harsh-truth-of-holding-kids-back/

https://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/s...ing-their-kids-back-in-6th-7th-8th-grade


Interesting articles. Thanks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/04/18 09:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.


https://ilovetowatchyouplay.com/2016/01/12/the-harsh-truth-of-holding-kids-back/

https://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/s...ing-their-kids-back-in-6th-7th-8th-grade



No matter what these articles say...Holding back/reclass/prefirst works in lacrosse. Now does it always work. Of course not. But many of top youth teams are loaded with them as are prep schools.

Lacrosse doesnt always get a lot of the pure thoroughbred athletes . They go to football, baseball, BB, Hockey the full scholarship and money sports. So we are talking about many kids that skill wise are in the same medium. An extra year helps all the way up to college. It does.. Now the true athlete will over come these older players, but the same age player just a little better than his peers at same age will not overcome the year older player. The older player gets all the attention and playing time in youth and it continues in HS........It stinks..but it is true.

I dont find that holdbacks work as well in BB, FB, BB, etc at top teams due to the pure athlete are all so athletic at a young age and it carries on thru HS and college.

The 5-8 to 6-0 white guy needs some sport ..Lacrosse used to be his domain.It still mainly is , but it is starting to be evaded by others, and that extra year helps many of these guys!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/04/18 09:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.


You may think that... But if you are from Baltimore, being on a top team or top school is true bliss, means justify the end.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/04/18 09:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.


https://ilovetowatchyouplay.com/2016/01/12/the-harsh-truth-of-holding-kids-back/

https://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/s...ing-their-kids-back-in-6th-7th-8th-grade



No matter what these articles say...Holding back/reclass/prefirst works in lacrosse. Now does it always work. Of course not. But many of top youth teams are loaded with them as are prep schools.

Lacrosse doesnt always get a lot of the pure thoroughbred athletes . They go to football, baseball, BB, Hockey the full scholarship and money sports. So we are talking about many kids that skill wise are in the same medium. An extra year helps all the way up to college. It does.. Now the true athlete will over come these older players, but the same age player just a little better than his peers at same age will not overcome the year older player. The older player gets all the attention and playing time in youth and it continues in HS........It stinks..but it is true.

I dont find that holdbacks work as well in BB, FB, BB, etc at top teams due to the pure athlete are all so athletic at a young age and it carries on thru HS and college.

The 5-8 to 6-0 white guy needs some sport ..Lacrosse used to be his domain.It still mainly is , but it is starting to be evaded by others, and that extra year helps many of these guys!


You mean how the white guy invaded the American Indian sport? You are completely clueless but I see you have already convinced yourself... oh how I want to quote Darwin but i'm sure it will go over your head
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/04/18 10:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.


https://ilovetowatchyouplay.com/2016/01/12/the-harsh-truth-of-holding-kids-back/

https://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/s...ing-their-kids-back-in-6th-7th-8th-grade



No matter what these articles say...Holding back/reclass/prefirst works in lacrosse. Now does it always work. Of course not. But many of top youth teams are loaded with them as are prep schools.

Lacrosse doesnt always get a lot of the pure thoroughbred athletes . They go to football, baseball, BB, Hockey the full scholarship and money sports. So we are talking about many kids that skill wise are in the same medium. An extra year helps all the way up to college. It does.. Now the true athlete will over come these older players, but the same age player just a little better than his peers at same age will not overcome the year older player. The older player gets all the attention and playing time in youth and it continues in HS........It stinks..but it is true.

I dont find that holdbacks work as well in BB, FB, BB, etc at top teams due to the pure athlete are all so athletic at a young age and it carries on thru HS and college.

The 5-8 to 6-0 white guy needs some sport ..Lacrosse used to be his domain.It still mainly is , but it is starting to be evaded by others, and that extra year helps many of these guys!

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.


https://ilovetowatchyouplay.com/2016/01/12/the-harsh-truth-of-holding-kids-back/

https://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/s...ing-their-kids-back-in-6th-7th-8th-grade



No matter what these articles say...Holding back/reclass/prefirst works in lacrosse. Now does it always work. Of course not. But many of top youth teams are loaded with them as are prep schools.

Lacrosse doesnt always get a lot of the pure thoroughbred athletes . They go to football, baseball, BB, Hockey the full scholarship and money sports. So we are talking about many kids that skill wise are in the same medium. An extra year helps all the way up to college. It does.. Now the true athlete will over come these older players, but the same age player just a little better than his peers at same age will not overcome the year older player. The older player gets all the attention and playing time in youth and it continues in HS........It stinks..but it is true.

I dont find that holdbacks work as well in BB, FB, BB, etc at top teams due to the pure athlete are all so athletic at a young age and it carries on thru HS and college.

The 5-8 to 6-0 white guy needs some sport ..Lacrosse used to be his domain.It still mainly is , but it is starting to be evaded by others, and that extra year helps many of these guys!


If you think lacrosse leads in holdbacks you are truly clueless. Football and basketball do it way more and all across the country. Nice try with your theory though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/05/18 12:14 AM
Agree he is clueless. What end are you speaking of? Wasting another year of club or private school money for what end? Getting a partial scholarship that for lacrosse amounts to little to nothing. Put the money toward a tutor and have your kid play for fun and actually add to society. Ignorant and provincial. Thats why they all come back to baltimore. Cant survive outside this bubble.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/05/18 12:52 AM
Does McD recommend transfering lacrosse players repeat 8th grade? Is it more prevalent with that school. I knew McD lead the way with prefirst. Is there any on age kid who will be in 8th grade this fall at McD? And where do most of those kids play lacrosses? Seeking facts. Don’t care about the arguments for or against it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/05/18 11:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.


https://ilovetowatchyouplay.com/2016/01/12/the-harsh-truth-of-holding-kids-back/

https://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/s...ing-their-kids-back-in-6th-7th-8th-grade



No matter what these articles say...Holding back/reclass/prefirst works in lacrosse. Now does it always work. Of course not. But many of top youth teams are loaded with them as are prep schools.

Lacrosse doesnt always get a lot of the pure thoroughbred athletes . They go to football, baseball, BB, Hockey the full scholarship and money sports. So we are talking about many kids that skill wise are in the same medium. An extra year helps all the way up to college. It does.. Now the true athlete will over come these older players, but the same age player just a little better than his peers at same age will not overcome the year older player. The older player gets all the attention and playing time in youth and it continues in HS........It stinks..but it is true.

I dont find that holdbacks work as well in BB, FB, BB, etc at top teams due to the pure athlete are all so athletic at a young age and it carries on thru HS and college.

The 5-8 to 6-0 white guy needs some sport ..Lacrosse used to be his domain.It still mainly is , but it is starting to be evaded by others, and that extra year helps many of these guys!


You mean how the white guy invaded the American Indian sport? You are completely clueless but I see you have already convinced yourself... oh how I want to quote Darwin but i'm sure it will go over your head


Dont get your panties all knotted up Francis. The white guy part was meant in humor.

Darwin would actually agree with me Francis. """"it is not the most intellectual of the species that survives; it is not the strongest that survives; but the species that survives is the one that is able best to adapt and adjust to the changing environment in which it finds itself. Darwin """"""

Holdbacks/reclass/prefirsts are adapting..They cant compete with their own age group and adapt by adding a year and then competing against the younger species.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/05/18 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.


https://ilovetowatchyouplay.com/2016/01/12/the-harsh-truth-of-holding-kids-back/

https://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/s...ing-their-kids-back-in-6th-7th-8th-grade



No matter what these articles say...Holding back/reclass/prefirst works in lacrosse. Now does it always work. Of course not. But many of top youth teams are loaded with them as are prep schools.

Lacrosse doesnt always get a lot of the pure thoroughbred athletes . They go to football, baseball, BB, Hockey the full scholarship and money sports. So we are talking about many kids that skill wise are in the same medium. An extra year helps all the way up to college. It does.. Now the true athlete will over come these older players, but the same age player just a little better than his peers at same age will not overcome the year older player. The older player gets all the attention and playing time in youth and it continues in HS........It stinks..but it is true.

I dont find that holdbacks work as well in BB, FB, BB, etc at top teams due to the pure athlete are all so athletic at a young age and it carries on thru HS and college.

The 5-8 to 6-0 white guy needs some sport ..Lacrosse used to be his domain.It still mainly is , but it is starting to be evaded by others, and that extra year helps many of these guys!


You mean how the white guy invaded the American Indian sport? You are completely clueless but I see you have already convinced yourself... oh how I want to quote Darwin but i'm sure it will go over your head


Dont get your panties all knotted up Francis. The white guy part was meant in humor.

Darwin would actually agree with me Francis. """"it is not the most intellectual of the species that survives; it is not the strongest that survives; but the species that survives is the one that is able best to adapt and adjust to the changing environment in which it finds itself. Darwin """"""

Holdbacks/reclass/prefirsts are adapting..They cant compete with their own age group and adapt by adding a year and then competing against the younger species.


At least you knew how to use google search - were you held back? Proves the point.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/05/18 09:33 PM
How was tryouts this weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/05/18 10:39 PM
Hey Ripley - quit bragging about you holdbacks. Spalding blows and always will. Enjoy the misery in Glen Burnie.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/06/18 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So grand to have MM son at our fine institution of higher learning. Oops he is being held back to 8th grade. McD is pathetic and so is that plan of action. Defining oneself by lacrosse is sad and baltimoronian.

https://ilovetowatchyouplay.com/2016/01/12/the-harsh-truth-of-holding-kids-back/

https://www.wcpo.com/news/insider/s...ing-their-kids-back-in-6th-7th-8th-grade

No matter what these articles say...Holding back/reclass/prefirst works in lacrosse. Now does it always work. Of course not. But many of top youth teams are loaded with them as are prep schools.

Lacrosse doesnt always get a lot of the pure thoroughbred athletes . They go to football, baseball, BB, Hockey the full scholarship and money sports. So we are talking about many kids that skill wise are in the same medium. An extra year helps all the way up to college. It does.. Now the true athlete will over come these older players, but the same age player just a little better than his peers at same age will not overcome the year older player. The older player gets all the attention and playing time in youth and it continues in HS........It stinks..but it is true.

I dont find that holdbacks work as well in BB, FB, BB, etc at top teams due to the pure athlete are all so athletic at a young age and it carries on thru HS and college.

The 5-8 to 6-0 white guy needs some sport ..Lacrosse used to be his domain.It still mainly is , but it is starting to be evaded by others, and that extra year helps many of these guys!

You mean how the white guy invaded the American Indian sport? You are completely clueless but I see you have already convinced yourself... oh how I want to quote Darwin but i'm sure it will go over your head


Dont get your panties all knotted up Francis. The white guy part was meant in humor.

Darwin would actually agree with me Francis. """"it is not the most intellectual of the species that survives; it is not the strongest that survives; but the species that survives is the one that is able best to adapt and adjust to the changing environment in which it finds itself. Darwin """"""

Holdbacks/reclass/prefirsts are adapting..They cant compete with their own age group and adapt by adding a year and then competing against the younger species.

At least you knew how to use google search - were you held back? Proves the point.


Francis please relax, might want to learn how to structure a argument. Advice, try to stay focused and relevant to issue.

To go off track like you. At least the white guy was able to name the " American Indian Sport ". I do believe in today's political climate it should be " Native American Sport ". Lucky for us some French Jesuit decided to give it a proper name instead of pa-ka-ha-to, begadwe, etc. They did let the Tewaaraton Award slip in somehow. Does anyone even know how to say that word?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/06/18 07:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clearly you have no idea the talent the will be there shortly


same song, different verse[/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clearly you have no idea the talent the will be there shortly


same song, different verse[/quote]



Spalding needs to win a playoff game before anyone can take them seriously. Its funny the API and Hawks parents will now be on the same sideline drinking the same KOOL AID.(funny how that works) Its a good thing Spalding expects and encourages KOOL AID drinking. Both teams under achieved this year by their own standards and are heading into a school notorious for under achieving. Hopefully the parents egos will finally take a back seat so the very talented kids can find some kind of success. With all the major egos and KOOL AID drinking going on there will be no where to hide win they get the same old same old same old at Spalding . Please wait till they win a playoff game before you start talking crap while still drinking the KOOL AID.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/06/18 09:45 PM
#18-6 on the same team how does that work?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/06/18 11:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey Ripley - quit bragging about you holdbacks. Spalding blows and always will. Enjoy the misery in Glen Burnie.


Easy Dave. Good luck at Dematha buddy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/06/18 11:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
#18-6 on the same team how does that work?


Just like on the field. 6 will be watching 18 play
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/07/18 12:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree he is clueless. What end are you speaking of? Wasting another year of club or private school money for what end? Getting a partial scholarship that for lacrosse amounts to little to nothing. Put the money toward a tutor and have your kid play for fun and actually add to society. Ignorant and provincial. Thats why they all come back to baltimore. Cant survive outside this bubble.


Such a sad but true statement. I don't even want my son around half of the parents/kids/coaches that are associated with this sport. I look around at the prep school graduates and Ivy league dads on the sidelines and I just hope my son becomes a much better person than his so called role models. It is a pathetic group that truly cannot survice anywhere but this bubble they created.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/07/18 09:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree he is clueless. What end are you speaking of? Wasting another year of club or private school money for what end? Getting a partial scholarship that for lacrosse amounts to little to nothing. Put the money toward a tutor and have your kid play for fun and actually add to society. Ignorant and provincial. Thats why they all come back to baltimore. Cant survive outside this bubble.


Such a sad but true statement. I don't even want my son around half of the parents/kids/coaches that are associated with this sport. I look around at the prep school graduates and Ivy league dads on the sidelines and I just hope my son becomes a much better person than his so called role models. It is a pathetic group that truly cannot survice anywhere but this bubble they created.


Pretty Funny, But many outsiders that come to Baltimore find it a very clickish .

The first words out of a local you meet in Baltimore are ..Where do you live? What do you do? And the save the most IMPORTANT for last..... ..Where do your kids go to school ? That one you cant fudge like your job and residence . It better be one of the Big Private Schools !

After that , you may never get insider status, but at least they can put you in the proper group where you belong.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/08/18 03:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best hawks 2022 player went to Landon



Say what? "BEST"?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/09/18 10:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best hawks 2022 player went to Landon



Say what? "BEST"?


Who?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 12:24 AM
Doesn’t matter. Sleeper team will win JV MIAA-A JV. Cash in bank. New day for laynyard folks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 01:08 AM
Who added players who lost players after tryouts?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 01:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best hawks 2022 player went to Landon



Say what? "BEST"?


Who?


Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 02:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best hawks 2022 player went to Landon



Say what? "BEST"?


Who?


Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical


Correct,,,New Sheriff in town boys!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 11:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best hawks 2022 player went to Landon



Say what? "BEST"?


Who?


Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical


Could be a long 4 years for the api kids going to Spalding.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 12:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best hawks 2022 player went to Landon



Say what? "BEST"?


Who?


Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical


Could be a long 4 years for the api kids going to Spalding.


It's 4 long years for anyone who goes to Spalding. What a horrible decision - bad academics and bad lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 01:06 PM
[/quote]

Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical
[/quote]

Correct,,,New Sheriff in town boys! [/quote]

My suggestion is to have the MIAA A Conference 2020, 2021 and 2022 championship T-Shirts printed up early like the 2013 BL Team did....that worked out well.....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 02:24 PM
Is the same coach down last year returning for Koopers 2022? What is going on with Looneys 2022?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 02:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best hawks 2022 player went to Landon



Say what? "BEST"?


Who?


Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical


Correct,,,New Sheriff in town boys!


Laughable to think that any of those Hawks kids are going to step on an MIAA field and dominate as freshman. Or even make much of a difference for that matter. Spalding will always be middle of the pack at best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 02:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who added players who lost players after tryouts?


Sure there are several changes at all the top team with this being the last year everyone has tryouts. DC Express has fallen apart. Several kids going to Madlax from DCE and also from Hawks. Crabs cut a bunch of kids. Sure FCA will make some changes as well. Roughriders best player moved down to 2023. Looneys folded their team and most those kids going to Koopers.

Lot of movement.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 03:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best hawks 2022 player went to Landon



Say what? "BEST"?


Who?


Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical


Could be a long 4 years for the api kids going to Spalding.


It's 4 long years for anyone who goes to Spalding. What a horrible decision - bad academics and bad lacrosse.



Not if the parents are all drinking the same KOOL AID! After all it is not the kids egos that will be broken but the parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 03:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Doesn’t matter. Sleeper team will win JV MIAA-A JV. Cash in bank. New day for laynyard folks.


What team is that?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best hawks 2022 player went to Landon



Say what? "BEST"?


Who?


Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical



Comical will be watching Spalding continue to under achieve just like that Hawks team has with all that talent. Drink up! It will be along 4 years for all involved. KOOL AID
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 03:48 PM
Funny post on the Sabre Lacrosse Board about the Death of Balwmore Lacrosse. Specifically references the Crabs/MIAA/Hopkins style of lacrosse... The shot clock will kill this deliberate pace of play O. Bang to X, rotate ball up top and alley dodge. Not sure the D1 coaches want to give up control.... Even if its better for the gate and the TV ratings...translation more $$$
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 06:49 PM
Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical
[/quote]

Correct,,,New Sheriff in town boys! [/quote]

Laughable to think that any of those Hawks kids are going to step on an MIAA field and dominate as freshman. Or even make much of a difference for that matter. Spalding will always be middle of the pack at best.[/quote]

Freshman may start but are almost never stars as freshman in the A Conference. Delusional to think otherwise. In all fairness to Spalding, if their freshmen and sophomore class develop and they keep recruiting talent this will be the first time in School history they have a critical mass of talent to compete for the semis. This assumes this unproven staff (no experience winning consistently in the A Conference) can "coach them up" and get them to the point where they can compete at the highest level. I wish them only the best (it would be great to have another great program in the Conference) but I would strongly suggest not bragging about what are clearly aspirational goals.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/18 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny post on the Sabre Lacrosse Board about the Death of Balwmore Lacrosse. Specifically references the Crabs/MIAA/Hopkins style of lacrosse... The shot clock will kill this deliberate pace of play O. Bang to X, rotate ball up top and alley dodge. Not sure the D1 coaches want to give up control.... Even if its better for the gate and the TV ratings...translation more $$$


Looks like we have a 60 sec shot clock after 20 seconds to clear. Assuming we will have 60 sec after a faceoff? This will change things in the A Conference if they stay with NCAA rules.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/11/18 05:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best hawks 2022 player went to Landon



Say what? "BEST"?


Who?


Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical


Correct,,,New Sheriff in town boys!


These kids are in for a rude reality. Gonna be fun to watch.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/11/18 12:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical


Correct,,,New Sheriff in town boys! [/quote]

Laughable to think that any of those Hawks kids are going to step on an MIAA field and dominate as freshman. Or even make much of a difference for that matter. Spalding will always be middle of the pack at best.[/quote]

Freshman may start but are almost never stars as freshman in the A Conference. Delusional to think otherwise. In all fairness to Spalding, if their freshmen and sophomore class develop and they keep recruiting talent this will be the first time in School history they have a critical mass of talent to compete for the semis. This assumes this unproven staff (no experience winning consistently in the A Conference) can "coach them up" and get them to the point where they can compete at the highest level. I wish them only the best (it would be great to have another great program in the Conference) but I would strongly suggest not bragging about what are clearly aspirational goals.
[/quote]
Most of the players are going to Spalding but not all the best at all the positions. Best close D to SJC, best FOGO SJC, best O Middie Spalding, best SSDM Spalding, best LSM MCD, best attackman Spalding. Probably best overall player at his position is their goalie and he doesn’t go to HS until next year. The surprising thing is STM didn’t get any of their top players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/11/18 06:11 PM
So Looneys folded another team? First the 2017s and 2018s and now the 2022s. Not sure why anyone continues to play for this club when they continually hang kids out to dry.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/11/18 07:03 PM
Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Looneys folded another team? First the 2017s and 2018s and now the 2022s. Not sure why anyone continues to play for this club when they continually hang kids out to dry.


Only 3 Looneys helmets at Koopers tryouts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/11/18 08:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical


Correct,,,New Sheriff in town boys!


Laughable to think that any of those Hawks kids are going to step on an MIAA field and dominate as freshman. Or even make much of a difference for that matter. Spalding will always be middle of the pack at best.[/quote]

Freshman may start but are almost never stars as freshman in the A Conference. Delusional to think otherwise. In all fairness to Spalding, if their freshmen and sophomore class develop and they keep recruiting talent this will be the first time in School history they have a critical mass of talent to compete for the semis. This assumes this unproven staff (no experience winning consistently in the A Conference) can "coach them up" and get them to the point where they can compete at the highest level. I wish them only the best (it would be great to have another great program in the Conference) but I would strongly suggest not bragging about what are clearly aspirational goals.
[/quote]
Most of the players are going to Spalding but not all the best at all the positions. Best close D to SJC, best FOGO SJC, best O Middie Spalding, best SSDM Spalding, best LSM MCD, best attackman Spalding. Probably best overall player at his position is their goalie and he doesn’t go to HS until next year. The surprising thing is STM didn’t get any of their top players.[/quote]

No, the best FOGO is at Spalding. The SJC one wasn't ready when the brights lights came on. The Spalding one WON that game for them
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/11/18 08:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical


Correct,,,New Sheriff in town boys!


Laughable to think that any of those Hawks kids are going to step on an MIAA field and dominate as freshman. Or even make much of a difference for that matter. Spalding will always be middle of the pack at best.[/quote]

Freshman may start but are almost never stars as freshman in the A Conference. Delusional to think otherwise. In all fairness to Spalding, if their freshmen and sophomore class develop and they keep recruiting talent this will be the first time in School history they have a critical mass of talent to compete for the semis. This assumes this unproven staff (no experience winning consistently in the A Conference) can "coach them up" and get them to the point where they can compete at the highest level. I wish them only the best (it would be great to have another great program in the Conference) but I would strongly suggest not bragging about what are clearly aspirational goals.
[/quote]
Most of the players are going to Spalding but not all the best at all the positions. Best close D to SJC, best FOGO SJC, best O Middie Spalding, best SSDM Spalding, best LSM MCD, best attackman Spalding. Probably best overall player at his position is their goalie and he doesn’t go to HS until next year. The surprising thing is STM didn’t get any of their top players.[/quote]


Not surprising with all the KOOL AID drinking going on. STM, Severn and other schools didn't have back rubbing and outside recruiters for their school making deals. Those schools along with Severna Park and the rest of the MIAA have Tradition and Standards.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/11/18 08:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Looneys folded another team? First the 2017s and 2018s and now the 2022s. Not sure why anyone continues to play for this club when they continually hang kids out to dry.


Only 3 Looneys helmets at Koopers tryouts.


Don't most of these players got to MIAA schools? Does it matter id they play club for Koopers,Looneys,Green turtle,Crabs,91md?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/11/18 09:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Looneys folded another team? First the 2017s and 2018s and now the 2022s. Not sure why anyone continues to play for this club when they continually hang kids out to dry.


Only 3 Looneys helmets at Koopers tryouts.


Don't most of these players got to MIAA schools? Does it matter id they play club for Koopers,Looneys,Green turtle,Crabs,91md?

If the kid is good enough, it doesn’t matter where they play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/11/18 10:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Looneys folded another team? First the 2017s and 2018s and now the 2022s. Not sure why anyone continues to play for this club when they continually hang kids out to dry.


Only 3 Looneys helmets at Koopers tryouts.


A lot of looneys kids never wore orange helmets. Their best player went to crabs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/18 12:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical


Correct,,,New Sheriff in town boys!

Laughable to think that any of those Hawks kids are going to step on an MIAA field and dominate as freshman. Or even make much of a difference for that matter. Spalding will always be middle of the pack at best.

Freshman may start but are almost never stars as freshman in the A Conference. Delusional to think otherwise. In all fairness to Spalding, if their freshmen and sophomore class develop and they keep recruiting talent this will be the first time in School history they have a critical mass of talent to compete for the semis. This assumes this unproven staff (no experience winning consistently in the A Conference) can "coach them up" and get them to the point where they can compete at the highest level. I wish them only the best (it would be great to have another great program in the Conference) but I would strongly suggest not bragging about what are clearly aspirational goals.

Most of the players are going to Spalding but not all the best at all the positions. Best close D to SJC, best FOGO SJC, best O Middie Spalding, best SSDM Spalding, best LSM MCD, best attackman Spalding. Probably best overall player at his position is their goalie and he doesn’t go to HS until next year. The surprising thing is STM didn’t get any of their top players


Not surprising with all the KOOL AID drinking going on. STM, Severn and other schools didn't have back rubbing and outside recruiters for their school making deals. Those schools along with Severna Park and the rest of the MIAA have Tradition and Standards.


Keep dreaming. There will be a new hierarchy soon . 2-3 years new MIAA title holder.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/18 04:47 AM
i saw a picture of the 2022 hawks players receiving their high school helmets...very touching and they are no doubt great players but does that mean they don't have to actually go through tryouts like everyone else?....total bs if you ask me and only fuels the fire of the kids and their parents that they have some kind of special status...great job by the schools and the parents on this...you all should be very proud
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/18 10:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i saw a picture of the 2022 hawks players receiving their high school helmets...very touching and they are no doubt great players but does that mean they don't have to actually go through tryouts like everyone else?....total bs if you ask me and only fuels the fire of the kids and their parents that they have some kind of special status...great job by the schools and the parents on this...you all should be very proud



I 100% agree on this. Total bs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/18 11:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i saw a picture of the 2022 hawks players receiving their high school helmets...very touching and they are no doubt great players but does that mean they don't have to actually go through tryouts like everyone else?....total bs if you ask me and only fuels the fire of the kids and their parents that they have some kind of special status...great job by the schools and the parents on this...you all should be very proud



Is it any different than being recruited by and committing to a college?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/18 11:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is happening the MD91 team? Is MM still going to coach the team?
Gd


Mass exodus of the 22's and 23's; MM is a cancer. 23's going to Koopers, MM son and a few others are coming down to 23 for the Spring and I can tell you know one on the 23 Team is happy about that!


What is worse, getting MM and his son or two season and literally no wins.


The correct answer is getting MM and his son would be much worse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/18 11:52 AM
JV this year easy... Next year playoffs MIAA Varsity... Following year MIAA Champions .. [/quote]

Clearly you've never coached or even played on an A Conference championship team at the Varsity level. If you had you wouldn't be pontificating...in other words its really tough to take a perennial cellar dweller and win a championship much less make the semis.
[/quote]

Clearly you have no idea the talent the will be there shortly[/quote]

Hawks 2022 reign of dominance was not due to unbelievable talent. It was due to unbelievable size in middle school. In High School that all goes away. Plenty of other talented players have caught up with their size and as freshman in High School, if the Hawks players play varsity sports, they will finally be forced to play on-age lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/18 02:19 PM
Hawks had a good spring and won Hoco league only lost was against Madlax. Summer Hawks lost 3 of 4 tournaments and only making the finals once. Their so called middle school domination is over teams have caught up to them. The holdback game works in middle school no so much in high school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/18 04:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is happening the MD91 team? Is MM still going to coach the team?
Gd


Mass exodus of the 22's and 23's; MM is a cancer. 23's going to Koopers, MM son and a few others are coming down to 23 for the Spring and I can tell you know one on the 23 Team is happy about that!


What is worse, getting MM and his son or two season and literally no wins.


The correct answer is getting MM and his son would be much worse.


Get ready for both: no wins in HoCo again and MM/son
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/18 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i saw a picture of the 2022 hawks players receiving their high school helmets...very touching and they are no doubt great players but does that mean they don't have to actually go through tryouts like everyone else?....total bs if you ask me and only fuels the fire of the kids and their parents that they have some kind of special status...great job by the schools and the parents on this...you all should be very proud



I 100% agree on this. Total bs.


They will still need a helmet even if they play on JV or Fresh-Soph. There is a spot on some team at the schools no matter how bad you may be.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/18 08:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best Hawks 2022 are going to Spalding. Best 4 defenders/LSMs, Best Faceoff guy, Best 2 middies, 2 top attack. Kids going to ST Johns and Landon are very talented BUT they are the supporting cast of the Spalding players. To say otherwise is comical


Correct,,,New Sheriff in town boys!

Laughable to think that any of those Hawks kids are going to step on an MIAA field and dominate as freshman. Or even make much of a difference for that matter. Spalding will always be middle of the pack at best.

Freshman may start but are almost never stars as freshman in the A Conference. Delusional to think otherwise. In all fairness to Spalding, if their freshmen and sophomore class develop and they keep recruiting talent this will be the first time in School history they have a critical mass of talent to compete for the semis. This assumes this unproven staff (no experience winning consistently in the A Conference) can "coach them up" and get them to the point where they can compete at the highest level. I wish them only the best (it would be great to have another great program in the Conference) but I would strongly suggest not bragging about what are clearly aspirational goals.

Most of the players are going to Spalding but not all the best at all the positions. Best close D to SJC, best FOGO SJC, best O Middie Spalding, best SSDM Spalding, best LSM MCD, best attackman Spalding. Probably best overall player at his position is their goalie and he doesn’t go to HS until next year. The surprising thing is STM didn’t get any of their top players


Not surprising with all the KOOL AID drinking going on. STM, Severn and other schools didn't have back rubbing and outside recruiters for their school making deals. Those schools along with Severna Park and the rest of the MIAA have Tradition and Standards.


Keep dreaming. There will be a new hierarchy soon . 2-3 years new MIAA title holder.


I think Spalding needs to worry more about the newer and nicer high school being built across the street. People already looking elsewhere to avoid congestion and competition.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/18 11:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i saw a picture of the 2022 hawks players receiving their high school helmets...very touching and they are no doubt great players but does that mean they don't have to actually go through tryouts like everyone else?....total bs if you ask me and only fuels the fire of the kids and their parents that they have some kind of special status...great job by the schools and the parents on this...you all should be very proud



I 100% agree on this. Total bs.


They will still need a helmet even if they play on JV or Fresh-Soph. There is a spot on some team at the schools no matter how bad you may be.





Not sure why you call bs on this. Of course they all have to try out for school and club teams. When you are a freshman you have to have a helmet just like everyone else. What special status are you referring to? Sounds like to me it is a great way to send the boys off into high school and say good bye to middle school. I heard that 5-6 kids are not even playing Hawks next year and they still got a helmet. A helmet that every high school coach had to have agreed to give. Are you just bitter because your kid has not received his helmet yet? Or that your kid has to compete against these players for the next 4 years. I agree with the statements of the parents and the KOOL AID but to suggest these players don't work hard for any and all success is absurd. Not a Hawks parent but know a lot of these players and to always see the bashing of that team is just jealousy and bitterness. Every team in the Elite division had holdbacks and it will only get worse in high school , not get better. There is no playing on age in High School. My son very much looks forward to competing with and against them for years to come.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/18 11:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks had a good spring and won Hoco league only lost was against Madlax. Summer Hawks lost 3 of 4 tournaments and only making the finals once. Their so called middle school domination is over teams have caught up to them. The holdback game works in middle school no so much in high school.



Who ever said they had dominance in middle school. They had a great year last year but lost games and tournaments every year of middle school..You do know that the holdback game was invented in High School and is very strong in High School. You do know that every Elite team from 2023 to 2019 have holdbacks. There is no 'on age' in high school. Ive watched a lot of lacrosse from this age group and the hawks were always one of the smallest teams on the field. The playing field has been even for years if you choose to have your kid play in that division .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 01:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i saw a picture of the 2022 hawks players receiving their high school helmets...very touching and they are no doubt great players but does that mean they don't have to actually go through tryouts like everyone else?....total bs if you ask me and only fuels the fire of the kids and their parents that they have some kind of special status...great job by the schools and the parents on this...you all should be very proud



I 100% agree on this. Total bs.


Look more Hawks haters. Don't worry your son will get his helmet and it will look exactly the same. stunads
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 01:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks had a good spring and won Hoco league only lost was against Madlax. Summer Hawks lost 3 of 4 tournaments and only making the finals once. Their so called middle school domination is over teams have caught up to them. The holdback game works in middle school no so much in high school.


Give it a rest. Unreal
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 02:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JV this year easy... Next year playoffs MIAA Varsity... Following year MIAA Champions ..


Clearly you've never coached or even played on an A Conference championship team at the Varsity level. If you had you wouldn't be pontificating...in other words its really tough to take a perennial cellar dweller and win a championship much less make the semis.
[/quote]

Clearly you have no idea the talent the will be there shortly[/quote]

Hawks 2022 reign of dominance was not due to unbelievable talent. It was due to unbelievable size in middle school. In High School that all goes away. Plenty of other talented players have caught up with their size and as freshman in High School, if the Hawks players play varsity sports, they will finally be forced to play on-age lacrosse.[/quote]

Size? Did you even see the team play?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 10:01 AM
It is completely delusional to think a group of 2022 players is going to rescue Spalding from the cellar of the MIAA. It’s not like the talent level at the other MIAA schools is suddenly drying up. An overbearing club coach that didn’t get his needs met by the traditional power school took his marbles (player) and went to Spalding. I feel for the administration and current coaches at Spalding. Going to be fun to watch this dumpster fire.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 01:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is completely delusional to think a group of 2022 players is going to rescue Spalding from the cellar of the MIAA. It’s not like the talent level at the other MIAA schools is suddenly drying up. An overbearing club coach that didn’t get his needs met by the traditional power school took his marbles (player) and went to Spalding. I feel for the administration and current coaches at Spalding. Going to be fun to watch this dumpster fire.


Exactly. Spalding lost to John Carroll this year. Long way to go before they are competing with CHC, BL, McD and Loyola.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is completely delusional to think a group of 2022 players is going to rescue Spalding from the cellar of the MIAA. It’s not like the talent level at the other MIAA schools is suddenly drying up. An overbearing club coach that didn’t get his needs met by the traditional power school took his marbles (player) and went to Spalding. I feel for the administration and current coaches at Spalding. Going to be fun to watch this dumpster fire.


All those other MIAA teams will need to go to a burn unit after getting torched by Spalding in the next few years
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 06:31 PM
Calvert Hall
Boys Latin
Mcdonogh
St Pauls
Loyola
St Marys
Severn
Spalding
St Joes
Carroll

This is the norm with any of the top 6 swapping spots- making the playoffs in MIAA is ridiculously hard let alone a winning record.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calvert Hall
Boys Latin
Mcdonogh
St Pauls
Loyola
St Marys
Severn
Spalding
St Joes
Carroll

This is the norm with any of the top 6 swapping spots- making the playoffs in MIAA is ridiculously hard let alone a winning record.


Is this an opinion or a statistical analysis and if so for how many years?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 07:17 PM
Spalding should try and win it’s games vs public schools first before winning a playoff game in the MiAA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 07:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calvert Hall
Boys Latin
Mcdonogh
St Pauls
Loyola
St Marys
Severn
Spalding
St Joes
Carroll

This is the norm with any of the top 6 swapping spots- making the playoffs in MIAA is ridiculously hard let alone a winning record.


Is this an opinion or a statistical analysis and if so for how many years?


Well those 6 teams are the only teams to ever win an MIAA championship. Seems to be a pretty good statistical analysis.

Start with trying to beat Severna Park and John Carroll. Then maybe you can set your sights a little higher.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 08:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calvert Hall
Boys Latin
Mcdonogh
St Pauls
Loyola
St Marys
Severn
Spalding
St Joes
Carroll

This is the norm with any of the top 6 swapping spots- making the playoffs in MIAA is ridiculously hard let alone a winning record.


Is this an opinion or a statistical analysis and if so for how many years?



not hard to find out.. however looking over the past 20 years this how the MIAA results end.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 08:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calvert Hall
Boys Latin
Mcdonogh
St Pauls
Loyola
St Marys
Severn
Spalding
St Joes
Carroll

This is the norm with any of the top 6 swapping spots- making the playoffs in MIAA is ridiculously hard let alone a winning record.


Is this an opinion or a statistical analysis and if so for how many years?


I would agree completely as the top 4-5 schools swap places year after year with St. Marys breaking in every few years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 08:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks had a good spring and won Hoco league only lost was against Madlax. Summer Hawks lost 3 of 4 tournaments and only making the finals once. Their so called middle school domination is over teams have caught up to them. The holdback game works in middle school no so much in high school.



Who ever said they had dominance in middle school. They had a great year last year but lost games and tournaments every year of middle school..You do know that the holdback game was invented in High School and is very strong in High School. You do know that every Elite team from 2023 to 2019 have holdbacks. There is no 'on age' in high school. Ive watched a lot of lacrosse from this age group and the hawks were always one of the smallest teams on the field. The playing field has been even for years if you choose to have your kid play in that division .


some bitter folks out there
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 10:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calvert Hall
Boys Latin
Mcdonogh
St Pauls
Loyola
St Marys
Severn
Spalding
St Joes
Carroll

This is the norm with any of the top 6 swapping spots- making the playoffs in MIAA is ridiculously hard let alone a winning record.


St Joe should be in B division
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/18 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calvert Hall
Boys Latin
Mcdonogh
St Pauls
Loyola
St Marys
Severn
Spalding
St Joes
Carroll

This is the norm with any of the top 6 swapping spots- making the playoffs in MIAA is ridiculously hard let alone a winning record.


St Joe should be in B division


Whelp... The current Spalding coach is 2-2 lifetime against MSJ... so there's that. (Same coach who is now going to lead the 13 year old superstars into the promised land.)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/14/18 12:49 PM
[/quote] Whelp... The current Spalding coach is 2-2 lifetime against MSJ... so there's that. (Same coach who is now going to lead the 13 year old superstars into the promised land.)[/quote]

Climbing a hill (Hoco) in your back yard is different than scaling Everest (A Conference). Walk before you can run....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/15/18 02:37 PM
It is completely comical the same low life trolls on here for the past few years. Api, Hawks daddies and coaches. Hawks haters still looming with bitterness and envy. API folks happy or maybe not that they will be drinking the same KOOL AID as Hawks parents. Curious to see how the banter will continue once they become one big family. Im sure the soap opera will unfold right here on this forum as it seems to be the only topic. Certainly wish the players success but it will be twice has hard with the egos involved.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/16/18 08:29 PM
Didn't Spalding win the JV league last year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/17/18 12:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't Spalding win the JV league last year?



Of course they did. Spalding makes playoffs this year and wins it all the following year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/17/18 04:05 PM
What have tryout numbers been like for the elite teams? Have seen a few supplemental tryout announcements already.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/17/18 08:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What have tryout numbers been like for the elite teams? Have seen a few supplemental tryout announcements already.


No Elite 2022 teams have posted supplemental tryouts. Tryout numbers have been high at the good teams just like they always are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/17/18 08:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't Spalding win the JV league last year?



Of course they did. Spalding makes playoffs this year and wins it all the following year.


Unless John Carroll wins it all. Just as likely as AS winning it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/17/18 08:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What have tryout numbers been like for the elite teams? Have seen a few supplemental tryout announcements already.


No big changes other than the Looneys kids finding new homes.

Rock has B and C teams now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/17/18 09:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What have tryout numbers been like for the elite teams? Have seen a few supplemental tryout announcements already.


No Elite 2022 teams have posted supplemental tryouts. Tryout numbers have been high at the good teams just like they always are.


You've been to all of them have you? Your kid find a spot on one this year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/17/18 09:18 PM
What happened at Rock?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/18/18 12:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What have tryout numbers been like for the elite teams? Have seen a few supplemental tryout announcements already.


The Strong get stronger Hawks FCA Crabs RoughRiders DC Express.The weak get weaker 91 madlax api
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/18/18 01:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What have tryout numbers been like for the elite teams? Have seen a few supplemental tryout announcements already.


No Elite 2022 teams have posted supplemental tryouts. Tryout numbers have been high at the good teams just like they always are.


You've been to all of them have you? Your kid find a spot on one this year?


You don’t have to go to the tryouts to know that Hawks, Crabs, FCA, etc aren’t having supplemental tryouts because they can’t find enough kids. And yes my son is just fine thanks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/18/18 02:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't Spalding win the JV league last year?



Of course they did. Spalding makes playoffs this year and wins it all the following year.


Unless John Carroll wins it all. Just as likely as AS winning it.


It will be here sooner than you think. Both teams will be in playoffs within two years. Within next 5 years one will be a MIAA Champion. Hard to stop talent
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/18/18 03:36 PM
Don't get the allure of Blackwolf. Google the guy. Sounds like he should have been a priest in Western PA. BW parents are either unaware or intentionally and shamefully ignorant.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/18/18 04:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't get the allure of Blackwolf. Google the guy. Sounds like he should have been a priest in Western PA. BW parents are either unaware or intentionally and shamefully ignorant.

We get it Cabell. Are you going to post this in every thread?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/18/18 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't Spalding win the JV league last year?



Of course they did. Spalding makes playoffs this year and wins it all the following year.


Unless John Carroll wins it all. Just as likely as AS winning it.


It will be here sooner than you think. Both teams will be in playoffs within two years. Within next 5 years one will be a MIAA Champion. Hard to stop talent


Doubtful
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/18/18 09:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't Spalding win the JV league last year?



Of course they did. Spalding makes playoffs this year and wins it all the following year.


Unless John Carroll wins it all. Just as likely as AS winning it.


It will be here sooner than you think. Both teams will be in playoffs within two years. Within next 5 years one will be a MIAA Champion. Hard to stop talent


The dads running the Glen Burnie Goat Rodeo have proven they can "stop talent" before and probably will again.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/19/18 05:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Rock?


They picked up some Looneys, Koopers, and Greene Turtle kids.

They have A & B teams (top 22 and 44).

Will have to wait and see if they coaches can make the A team compete with the big boys.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/19/18 05:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't get the allure of Blackwolf. Google the guy. Sounds like he should have been a priest in Western PA. BW parents are either unaware or intentionally and shamefully ignorant.

We get it Cabell. Are you going to post this in every thread?


Hey Ungrateful Poster!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/19/18 11:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Rock?


They picked up some Looneys, Koopers, and Greene Turtle kids.

They have A & B teams (top 22 and 44).

Will have to wait and see if they coaches can make the A team compete with the big boys.



Are the fielding 2 teams are 2022? Who is the coach of Top 22? Club has a good platform and history of commits, including Mikey Wynn (SP, ND). But not much talk in this forum.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/19/18 02:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Rock?


They picked up some Looneys, Koopers, and Greene Turtle kids.

They have A & B teams (top 22 and 44).

Will have to wait and see if they coaches can make the A team compete with the big boys.



Are the fielding 2 teams are 2022? Who is the coach of Top 22? Club has a good platform and history of commits, including MW (SP, ND). But not much talk in this forum.


The fact that the owners son didn’t play for Rock inHigh school should tell you all you need to know about the program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/19/18 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Rock?


They picked up some Looneys, Koopers, and Greene Turtle kids.

They have A & B teams (top 22 and 44).

Will have to wait and see if they coaches can make the A team compete with the big boys.



Are the fielding 2 teams are 2022? Who is the coach of Top 22? Club has a good platform and history of commits, including Mikey Wynn (SP, ND). But not much talk in this forum.


The fact that the owners son didn’t play for Rock inHigh school should tell you all you need to know about the program.


He got cut?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/19/18 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Rock?

They picked up some Looneys, Koopers, and Greene Turtle kids.

They have A & B teams (top 22 and 44).

Will have to wait and see if they coaches can make the A team compete with the big boys.

Are the fielding 2 teams are 2022? Who is the coach of Top 22? Club has a good platform and history of commits, including MW (SP, ND). But not much talk in this forum.


The fact that the owners son didn’t play for Rock inHigh school should tell you all you need to know about the program.


He got cut?



Thats cold...cutting your own son! Bet that was fun around the dinner table.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/19/18 07:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't get the allure of Blackwolf. Google the guy. Sounds like he should have been a priest in Western PA. BW parents are either unaware or intentionally and shamefully ignorant.

We get it Cabell. Are you going to post this in every thread?


Hey Ungrateful Poster!

I'm not Cabell and don't have a horse in the Madlax/BW race. Someone mentioned the criminal history of the guy, I researched it online and am shocked how any parent would let their son play for him, even if he is a good coach and has the ear of some colleges. If anyone can provide facts demonstrating that the allegations were untrue, fine but the news articles don't seem to be fictional.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/19/18 07:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Rock?


They picked up some Looneys, Koopers, and Greene Turtle kids.

They have A & B teams (top 22 and 44).

Will have to wait and see if they coaches can make the A team compete with the big boys.



Rock 2022 has been a stable and talented team for several years. It's nice to see that they have been able to keep it together and successful, even with the younger teams struggling.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/19/18 10:28 PM
Thats hilarious
22 went essentially winless 2 years ago
Horrible coaching
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/19/18 11:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Rock?

They picked up some Looneys, Koopers, and Greene Turtle kids.

They have A & B teams (top 22 and 44).

Will have to wait and see if they coaches can make the A team compete with the big boys.

Are the fielding 2 teams are 2022? Who is the coach of Top 22? Club has a good platform and history of commits, including MW (SP, ND). But not much talk in this forum.


The fact that the owners son didn’t play for Rock inHigh school should tell you all you need to know about the program.


He got cut?



Thats cold...cutting your own son! Bet that was fun around the dinner table.


No he didn’t get cut. He was too good to play for Rock and played for FCA. Rock is a terrible organization
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/19/18 11:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thats hilarious
22 went essentially winless 2 years ago
Horrible coaching


No kid on Rock 2022, or even in the program, but this is simply wrong. Two years ago the Rock team was .500 in HoCo playing AA. This past Spring they went 4-2 in AA and lost in the playoffs to the eventual Champions. They aren't an "elite" level team, but from what I've seen they have had a pretty stable roster that has improved every year.

If you buy what Rock sells, they admit their teams will struggle in the early years, but the result of their approach is (ideally/hopefully) building a foundation of fundamentally sound players.

The problem is that many kids leave after losing so much and that makes it hard to maintain any cohesion. That has been an issue in the younger teams that seem to often play with multiple years bunched together. It seems like the 2022 team has overcome that. So good for them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/20/18 12:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Rock?

They picked up some Looneys, Koopers, and Greene Turtle kids.

They have A & B teams (top 22 and 44).

Will have to wait and see if they coaches can make the A team compete with the big boys.

Are the fielding 2 teams are 2022? Who is the coach of Top 22? Club has a good platform and history of commits, including MW (SP, ND). But not much talk in this forum.


The fact that the owners son didn’t play for Rock inHigh school should tell you all you need to know about the program.


He got cut?



Thats cold...cutting your own son! Bet that was fun around the dinner table.


No he didn’t get cut. He was too good to play for Rock and played for FCA. Rock is a terrible organization


Where did/does he play college lacrosse?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/20/18 01:38 AM
Let me clarify for you blind Madlax supporters (and most likely Cabell who spreads FUD on this message board). MadLax is purely a profit center with no focus on player development or individual skills and technique. The amazing players that have played there (or play there) were already incredibly skilled prior to their involvement at Madlax.

The focus of MadLax is purely on winning meaningless club/tourney championships with practices solely focused on team based concepts, irrespective of teaching the proper fundamentals or individual skill techniques. For instance, the proper way to execute a simple ground ball or roll dodge utilizing the proper footwork is never taught, nor are practices geared towards spending at least 50% on individual skills and technique like college practices. The end result is that kids play countless numbers of games, further engraining and reinforcing bad/poor habits. But that doesn’t matter to MadLax as long as they continue to fill their coffers with 2 teams per grad class.

Make no mistake, that’s the real reason kids leave for other clubs. It’s a sham and rip off especially when you consider that parents pay 2x the fees at Madlax for an inferior teaching/playing experience and that doesn’t even take into account the fact that they take 26-30 kids on each team.

Lacrosse consumers have become more educated and that’s why many of the best kids in the DMV are on longer affialiated with Madlax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/20/18 05:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Rock?

They picked up some Looneys, Koopers, and Greene Turtle kids.

They have A & B teams (top 22 and 44).

Will have to wait and see if they coaches can make the A team compete with the big boys.

Are the fielding 2 teams are 2022? Who is the coach of Top 22? Club has a good platform and history of commits, including MW (SP, ND). But not much talk in this forum.


The fact that the owners son didn’t play for Rock inHigh school should tell you all you need to know about the program.


He got cut?



Thats cold...cutting your own son! Bet that was fun around the dinner table.


No he didn’t get cut. He was too good to play for Rock and played for FCA. Rock is a terrible organization


Where did/does he play college lacrosse?


Going to UNC.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/20/18 02:24 PM
What does the Mid-Atlantic 2022 club scene look like for the upcoming fall and summer seasons? Which clubs got stronger and which lost talent? Given the rule change (20/60), are tournaments going to be able to afford a clock for every field or are the referees going to keep time on their wrist? Which clubs have the coaching acumen to adjust to the new rules? Which clubs have the best personnel for the new up tempo game? Guessing two way middies are now at a premium. Also highly skilled offensive LSMs. Look for a lot of ten man riding because 20 seconds isn't much time. Will be great to have an athletic keeper who can cover outside of the cage.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/20/18 02:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What does the Mid-Atlantic 2022 club scene look like for the upcoming fall and summer seasons? Which clubs got stronger and which lost talent? Given the rule change (20/60), are tournaments going to be able to afford a clock for every field or are the referees going to keep time on their wrist? Which clubs have the coaching acumen to adjust to the new rules? Which clubs have the best personnel for the new up tempo game? Guessing two way middies are now at a premium. Also highly skilled offensive LSMs. Look for a lot of ten man riding because 20 seconds isn't much time. Will be great to have an athletic keeper who can cover outside of the cage.


That's an NCAA rule that hasn't even been adopted yet. It was just proposed by the Rules Committee, but still needs to be approved by the [whatever higher up] committee.

I doubt that all of the tournaments, even those that claim to follow NCAA rules, will end up using a shot clock. As you point out, the cost and logistics will make it really hard to outfit every field with a visible clock. Just the cost of the equipment, without getting clock operators, will be prohibitive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/20/18 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What does the Mid-Atlantic 2022 club scene look like for the upcoming fall and summer seasons? Which clubs got stronger and which lost talent? Given the rule change (20/60), are tournaments going to be able to afford a clock for every field or are the referees going to keep time on their wrist? Which clubs have the coaching acumen to adjust to the new rules? Which clubs have the best personnel for the new up tempo game? Guessing two way middies are now at a premium. Also highly skilled offensive LSMs. Look for a lot of ten man riding because 20 seconds isn't much time. Will be great to have an athletic keeper who can cover outside of the cage.


That's an NCAA rule that hasn't even been adopted yet. It was just proposed by the Rules Committee, but still needs to be approved by the [whatever higher up] committee.

I doubt that all of the tournaments, even those that claim to follow NCAA rules, will end up using a shot clock. As you point out, the cost and logistics will make it really hard to outfit every field with a visible clock. Just the cost of the equipment, without getting clock operators, will be prohibitive.


Guessing its adopted by the NCAA and followed by the MIAA A Conference. My guess is the referees will keep the time on the field. Its a brave new world folks.....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/20/18 03:50 PM
No way that there will be shot clocks at fall and summer tournaments. Most tournaments can't even get enough balls on the end lines. Let alone getting clocks setup at every field. NFHS rules are already different than NCAA. Nothing forcing tournaments to have 20/60 rules.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/20/18 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No way that there will be shot clocks at fall and summer tournaments. Most tournaments can't even get enough balls on the end lines. Let alone getting clocks setup at every field. NFHS rules are already different than NCAA. Nothing forcing tournaments to have 20/60 rules.
.

Will be interesting to see how fast the market reacts to the new rules assuming they're adopted. I know if the MIAA adopts the NCAA rules, the parents of those kids will want their clubs playing in NCAA rule tournaments. Understand the entire universe doesn't rotate around this constituency but I'm guess the hotbeds will want the high school kids to be preparing for the NCAA game sooner rather than later.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/20/18 05:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No way that there will be shot clocks at fall and summer tournaments. Most tournaments can't even get enough balls on the end lines. Let alone getting clocks setup at every field. NFHS rules are already different than NCAA. Nothing forcing tournaments to have 20/60 rules.


Yup. Because keep in mind that implementing this rule requires not just clocks on the endlines, but the power infrastructure to run them (or even more money and a separate power infrastructure to charge battery powered units), the remote controller units, and people who can actually pay attention the entire game to reset the clocks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/20/18 06:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No way that there will be shot clocks at fall and summer tournaments. Most tournaments can't even get enough balls on the end lines. Let alone getting clocks setup at every field. NFHS rules are already different than NCAA. Nothing forcing tournaments to have 20/60 rules.


Yup. Because keep in mind that implementing this rule requires not just clocks on the endlines, but the power infrastructure to run them (or even more money and a separate power infrastructure to charge battery powered units), the remote controller units, and people who can actually pay attention the entire game to reset the clocks.


Ten bucks we have the timers but the refs keep the time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/21/18 02:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let me clarify for you blind Madlax supporters (and most likely Cabell who spreads FUD on this message board). MadLax is purely a profit center with no focus on player development or individual skills and technique. The amazing players that have played there (or play there) were already incredibly skilled prior to their involvement at Madlax.

The focus of MadLax is purely on winning meaningless club/tourney championships with practices solely focused on team based concepts, irrespective of teaching the proper fundamentals or individual skill techniques. For instance, the proper way to execute a simple ground ball or roll dodge utilizing the proper footwork is never taught, nor are practices geared towards spending at least 50% on individual skills and technique like college practices. The end result is that kids play countless numbers of games, further engraining and reinforcing bad/poor habits. But that doesn’t matter to MadLax as long as they continue to fill their coffers with 2 teams per grad class.

Make no mistake, that’s the real reason kids leave for other clubs. It’s a sham and rip off especially when you consider that parents pay 2x the fees at Madlax for an inferior teaching/playing experience and that doesn’t even take into account the fact that they take 26-30 kids on each team.

Lacrosse consumers have become more educated and that’s why many of the best kids in the DMV are on longer affialiated with Madlax.

Madlax is expensive - valid criticism. Some don't like the owner - fine. But to say Madlax does not develop talent or work on individual fundamentals is wrong, especially at the lower age groups. If you want to criticize a club that is solely reliant on recruiting players who are "already incredibly skilled," no one is worse than Blackwolf. Add the apparent criminal past that you get with BW, not sure why anyone with even a modest moral compass would play there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/21/18 01:37 PM
Look, Cabell and BW can [ChillLaxin] all over each other. As a parent, buyer beware for both. That's why if your kid is talented enough DCE is best option in DC area....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/21/18 01:41 PM
Cabell and BW trading insults reminds me of that adage about fighting with a pig in the mud......
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/21/18 11:40 PM
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/21/18 11:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?


Kids don’t repeat 9th grade often. Can’t play more than 4 years sonhave to play high school club if you do.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/21/18 11:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?


For 2022? Close to none.

The reclassing was last year (redo 8th grade).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 12:16 AM
Heard RoughRiders picked up a lot of talent
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 12:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?


2022's mass reclass was to 2023 this year. Very few 2021 reclassing to 2022's this year. You 2021's missed that boat last year.

Most 2022 who wanted to be held back were held back last year. Most are former 2021 's.

Crazy world now. Lacrosse the integrity sport where reclass/prefirst/holdbacks rein king
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 01:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?



How many did all the clubs add? Last year the pre/holdback was across the board at the elite level. Even team had them
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 04:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?



How many did all the clubs add? Last year the pre/holdback was across the board at the elite level. Even team had them



Agreed.. Every team has them and every team will continue to have them. It is a mute subject now that they are in High School. Already seeing maturity playing a big role in boys catching up and in many cases passing the older, maturer boys. Many that were bigger , stronger faster for what ever the reasons are done growing. Witness this first hand towards the end of summer tournaments where the younger side have caught up to those that always had some type of physical advantage. It was even more clear at tryouts. Those hold/pre players will of course always have that advantage but those really good lacrosse players that are maturing now and training hard the advantage will be very little if any. If you are still concerned about this topic you may want to stop with athletics now for you kid. It will be this way all the way through college- at all most every sport
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 05:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?


2022's mass reclass was to 2023 this year. Very few 2021 reclassing to 2022's this year. You 2021's missed that boat last year.

Most 2022 who wanted to be held back were held back last year. Most are former 2021 's.

Crazy world now. Lacrosse the integrity sport where reclass/prefirst/holdbacks rein king

Of all the top 2023 teams, very few added top 2022's Hawks and ML roster's remain the same. Top kids on both those teams are still the same. 91 may have some re-class along with crabs but 91 is not an elite team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?



How many did all the clubs add? Last year the pre/holdback was across the board at the elite level. Even team had them



Agreed.. Every team has them and every team will continue to have them. It is a mute subject now that they are in High School. Already seeing maturity playing a big role in boys catching up and in many cases passing the older, maturer boys. Many that were bigger , stronger faster for what ever the reasons are done growing. Witness this first hand towards the end of summer tournaments where the younger side have caught up to those that always had some type of physical advantage. It was even more clear at tryouts. Those hold/pre players will of course always have that advantage but those really good lacrosse players that are maturing now and training hard the advantage will be very little if any. If you are still concerned about this topic you may want to stop with athletics now for you kid. It will be this way all the way through college- at all most every sport


By the spelling and grammatical errors I'm going to guess you're from AA County?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 06:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?


2022's mass reclass was to 2023 this year. Very few 2021 reclassing to 2022's this year. You 2021's missed that boat last year.

Most 2022 who wanted to be held back were held back last year. Most are former 2021 's.

Crazy world now. Lacrosse the integrity sport where reclass/prefirst/holdbacks rein king

Of all the top 2023 teams, very few added top 2022's Hawks and ML roster's remain the same. Top kids on both those teams are still the same. 91 may have some re-class along with crabs but 91 is not an elite team


Not very informed are you? Hawks and ML 2022's both had a lot of changes this year. And 91 won 2 tournaments this summer including the NLF National Championship. Other than that, good informative take.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?



How many did all the clubs add? Last year the pre/holdback was across the board at the elite level. Even team had them



Agreed.. Every team has them and every team will continue to have them. It is a mute subject now that they are in High School. Already seeing maturity playing a big role in boys catching up and in many cases passing the older, maturer boys. Many that were bigger , stronger faster for what ever the reasons are done growing. Witness this first hand towards the end of summer tournaments where the younger side have caught up to those that always had some type of physical advantage. It was even more clear at tryouts. Those hold/pre players will of course always have that advantage but those really good lacrosse players that are maturing now and training hard the advantage will be very little if any. If you are still concerned about this topic you may want to stop with athletics now for you kid. It will be this way all the way through college- at all most every sport


Very true!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 06:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?



How many did all the clubs add? Last year the pre/holdback was across the board at the elite level. Even team had them



Agreed.. Every team has them and every team will continue to have them. It is a mute subject now that they are in High School. Already seeing maturity playing a big role in boys catching up and in many cases passing the older, maturer boys. Many that were bigger , stronger faster for what ever the reasons are done growing. Witness this first hand towards the end of summer tournaments where the younger side have caught up to those that always had some type of physical advantage. It was even more clear at tryouts. Those hold/pre players will of course always have that advantage but those really good lacrosse players that are maturing now and training hard the advantage will be very little if any. If you are still concerned about this topic you may want to stop with athletics now for you kid. It will be this way all the way through college- at all most every sport


By the spelling and grammatical errors I'm going to guess you're from AA County?



Actually from Calvert County using a cell phone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?


2022's mass reclass was to 2023 this year. Very few 2021 reclassing to 2022's this year. You 2021's missed that boat last year.

Most 2022 who wanted to be held back were held back last year. Most are former 2021 's.

Crazy world now. Lacrosse the integrity sport where reclass/prefirst/holdbacks rein king

Of all the top 2023 teams, very few added top 2022's Hawks and ML roster's remain the same. Top kids on both those teams are still the same. 91 may have some re-class along with crabs but 91 is not an elite team


Not very informed are you? Hawks and ML 2022's both had a lot of changes this year. And 91 won 2 tournaments this summer including the NLF National Championship. Other than that, good informative take.

The guy was talking about the 2023s. Confused me too with the lack of punctuation, etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 06:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?


2022's mass reclass was to 2023 this year. Very few 2021 reclassing to 2022's this year. You 2021's missed that boat last year.

Most 2022 who wanted to be held back were held back last year. Most are former 2021 's.

Crazy world now. Lacrosse the integrity sport where reclass/prefirst/holdbacks rein king

Of all the top 2023 teams, very few added top 2022's Hawks and ML roster's remain the same. Top kids on both those teams are still the same. 91 may have some re-class along with crabs but 91 is not an elite team


Not very informed are you? Hawks and ML 2022's both had a lot of changes this year. And 91 won 2 tournaments this summer including the NLF National Championship. Other than that, good informative take.

Read much? I was commenting on the 2023's as it relates to adding 2022's knowing this is the 2022 board. 91 2023 did not win anything this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 07:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many re-class players did the top clubs add?


2022's mass reclass was to 2023 this year. Very few 2021 reclassing to 2022's this year. You 2021's missed that boat last year.

Most 2022 who wanted to be held back were held back last year. Most are former 2021 's.

Crazy world now. Lacrosse the integrity sport where reclass/prefirst/holdbacks rein king

Of all the top 2023 teams, very few added top 2022's Hawks and ML roster's remain the same. Top kids on both those teams are still the same. 91 may have some re-class along with crabs but 91 is not an elite team


Not very informed are you? Hawks and ML 2022's both had a lot of changes this year. And 91 won 2 tournaments this summer including the NLF National Championship. Other than that, good informative take.

Madlax 2022 had quite a bit of turnover.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/22/18 07:49 PM
Heard many of their best players tried out for the Hawks. Why didn't the Crabs get the Petro boys? I thought Petro and the King Crab were tight?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/23/18 12:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard many of their best players tried out for the Hawks. Why didn't the Crabs get the Petro boys? I thought Petro and the King Crab were tight?


Only saw one Crabs helmet at the Hawks tryout. Love how people act like they know something just to stir the pot. Clowns
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/23/18 01:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard many of their best players tried out for the Hawks. Why didn't the Crabs get the Petro boys? I thought Petro and the King Crab were tight?


Only saw one Crabs helmet at the Hawks tryout. Love how people act like they know something just to stir the pot. Clowns

Madlax, not Crabs
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/23/18 03:38 PM
Some folks don't read top to bottom or left to right. ADD.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/23/18 04:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard many of their best players tried out for the Hawks. Why didn't the Crabs get the Petro boys? I thought Petro and the King Crab were tight?


RK that runs Koopers is the Petro's godfather. They aren't going to bail on Koopers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/23/18 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard many of their best players tried out for the Hawks. Why didn't the Crabs get the Petro boys? I thought Petro and the King Crab were tight?


RK that runs Koopers is the Petro's godfather. They aren't going to bail on Koopers.


Not is there any reason too. Crabs lost the luster. No one needs or cares about it anymore.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/23/18 05:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard many of their best players tried out for the Hawks. Why didn't the Crabs get the Petro boys? I thought Petro and the King Crab were tight?


RK that runs Koopers is the Petro's godfather. They aren't going to bail on Koopers.


Not is there any reason too. Crabs lost the luster. No one needs or cares about it anymore.


Speak english? Crabs is till one of the top programs in the country. Fooling yourself to think otherwise. Sure there is more competition out there now. They were the first big club program. Was impossible to sustain.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/23/18 06:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard many of their best players tried out for the Hawks. Why didn't the Crabs get the Petro boys? I thought Petro and the King Crab were tight?


RK that runs Koopers is the Petro's godfather. They aren't going to bail on Koopers.


Not is there any reason too. Crabs lost the luster. No one needs or cares about it anymore.


Speak english? Crabs is till one of the top programs in the country. Fooling yourself to think otherwise. Sure there is more competition out there now. They were the first big club program. Was impossible to sustain.


No one cares except those on the sinking ship.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/23/18 06:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard many of their best players tried out for the Hawks. Why didn't the Crabs get the Petro boys? I thought Petro and the King Crab were tight?


RK that runs Koopers is the Petro's godfather. They aren't going to bail on Koopers.


Not is there any reason too. Crabs lost the luster. No one needs or cares about it anymore.



Speak english? Crabs is till one of the top programs in the country. Fooling yourself to think otherwise. Sure there is more competition out there now. They were the first big club program. Was impossible to sustain.


Let’s me translate....your ship is sunk!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 09:49 AM
Who have you heard they added?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard many of their best players tried out for the Hawks. Why didn't the Crabs get the Petro boys? I thought Petro and the King Crab were tight?


RK that runs Koopers is the Petro's godfather. They aren't going to bail on Koopers.


Not is there any reason too. Crabs lost the luster. No one needs or cares about it anymore.


Speak english? Crabs is till one of the top programs in the country. Fooling yourself to think otherwise. Sure there is more competition out there now. They were the first big club program. Was impossible to sustain.


Easy there Ryan, There will still be plenty of money to be made. No one is taking food off your table.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 04:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard many of their best players tried out for the Hawks. Why didn't the Crabs get the Petro boys? I thought Petro and the King Crab were tight?


RK that runs Koopers is the Petro's godfather. They aren't going to bail on Koopers.


Not is there any reason too. Crabs lost the luster. No one needs or cares about it anymore.



Speak english? Crabs is till one of the top programs in the country. Fooling yourself to think otherwise. Sure there is more competition out there now. They were the first big club program. Was impossible to sustain.


Let’s me translate....your ship is sunk!


If coming in 2nd in the NLF Championship is sunk then where do I sign up?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 05:43 PM
NLF events stinks 8 91 teams from all over crabs and a few other B teams. Not all the top teams are invited.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 05:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard many of their best players tried out for the Hawks. Why didn't the Crabs get the Petro boys? I thought Petro and the King Crab were tight?


RK that runs Koopers is the Petro's godfather. They aren't going to bail on Koopers.


Not is there any reason too. Crabs lost the luster. No one needs or cares about it anymore.



Speak english? Crabs is till one of the top programs in the country. Fooling yourself to think otherwise. Sure there is more competition out there now. They were the first big club program. Was impossible to sustain.


Let’s me translate....your ship is sunk!


If coming in 2nd in the NLF Championship is sunk then where do I sign up?


The definition of desperate in the Dictionary: Fail to make the semis in your local League championship playoff. Panic and fly several kids in from every big State to back fill a mediocre roster for one or two tournaments. Trumpet one runner up finish at the last tournament in the year when the boys are playing on empty and are looking forward to their family vacations. Sure, sign me up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 06:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NLF events stinks 8 91 teams from all over crabs and a few other B teams. Not all the top teams are invited.


Please tell us who wasn't invited that could have won the tournament.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 06:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Speak english? Crabs is till one of the top programs in the country. Fooling yourself to think otherwise. Sure there is more competition out there now. They were the first big club program. Was impossible to sustain.


Let’s me translate....your ship is sunk!


If coming in 2nd in the NLF Championship is sunk then where do I sign up?


The definition of desperate in the Dictionary: Fail to make the semis in your local League championship playoff. Panic and fly several kids in from every big State to back fill a mediocre roster for one or two tournaments. Trumpet one runner up finish at the last tournament in the year when the boys are playing on empty and are looking forward to their family vacations. Sure, sign me up.


So I guess the fact that they made the finals of the first summer tournament on LI was because the boys have too much energy? No guest players at that one.

Crabs either made the finals or semis of every tournament they played in all summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard many of their best players tried out for the Hawks. Why didn't the Crabs get the Petro boys? I thought Petro and the King Crab were tight?


RK that runs Koopers is the Petro's godfather. They aren't going to bail on Koopers.


Not is there any reason too. Crabs lost the luster. No one needs or cares about it anymore.




Speak english? Crabs is till one of the top programs in the country. Fooling yourself to think otherwise. Sure there is more competition out there now. They were the first big club program. Was impossible to sustain.


Let’s me translate....your ship is sunk!


If coming in 2nd in the NLF Championship is sunk then where do I sign up?


Well, when you are affiliated with NLF and make your own schedule anything is possible. If you are interested in playing for Crabs check out their website. It looks like the roster hasn’t been finalized and if you are on the 2023 team they want you to be hungry so RM can EAT you, I mean meet you! That is what people mean by your ship has sailed, sunk whatever!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 06:38 PM
Club has lost it completely. The 2022 has never been good. See above. 2023 was dominant for 2 years (an anomaly) then fell to average last year because of a mass exodus. The younger years all had losing records. The HS invite team may still be ok but the youth program tanked. Fact! The holdback advantage was exposed at the inaugural WSYL with the embarrassing lop sided loss to a team they beat a month earlier. Laughing stock!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 07:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Speak english? Crabs is till one of the top programs in the country. Fooling yourself to think otherwise. Sure there is more competition out there now. They were the first big club program. Was impossible to sustain.


Let’s me translate....your ship is sunk!


If coming in 2nd in the NLF Championship is sunk then where do I sign up?


Well, when you are affiliated with NLF and make your own schedule anything is possible. If you are interested in playing for Crabs check out their website. It looks like the roster hasn’t been finalized and if you are on the 2023 team they want you to be hungry so RM can EAT you, I mean meet you! That is what people mean by your ship has sailed, sunk whatever!



Right because all the other clubs have their rosters posted already...

Your post makes no sense. You say that 2023s should be hungry so Ryan can eat you? And that's what people mean by your ship has sailed(or sunk). I gotta say you've got me convinced. I love when Harford and AA county trash posts on here. Keeps the low brow humor at the expected level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 08:14 PM
Meaning Crabs like holdbacks so if you’re intersected play for 2023. You said sign me up! It’s written in English and everything!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 08:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Meaning Crabs like holdbacks so if you’re intersected play for 2023. You said sign me up! It’s written in English and everything!


Not sure if it is in English if you would be able to comprehend. Hitting the bottle early today? Guess it is Friday. Docks must shut down early.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 08:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Speak english? Crabs is till one of the top programs in the country. Fooling yourself to think otherwise. Sure there is more competition out there now. They were the first big club program. Was impossible to sustain.


Let’s me translate....your ship is sunk!


If coming in 2nd in the NLF Championship is sunk then where do I sign up?


Well, when you are affiliated with NLF and make your own schedule anything is possible. If you are interested in playing for Crabs check out their website. It looks like the roster hasn’t been finalized and if you are on the 2023 team they want you to be hungry so RM can EAT you, I mean meet you! That is what people mean by your ship has sailed, sunk whatever!



Right because all the other clubs have their rosters posted already...

Your post makes no sense. You say that 2023s should be hungry so Ryan can eat you? And that's what people mean by your ship has sailed(or sunk). I gotta say you've got me convinced. I love when Harford and AA county trash posts on here. Keeps the low brow humor at the expected level.


Not from AA or Harford County but I’m sure you have players are part of your program that are. I am sure they don’t appreciate your judgement! If you are a step above everyone then your roster should be posted. Guess you just proved that you are not a step above but a few steps behind. Kids can play for a losing club anywhere, why deal with someone who refers to themselves as “King Crab”?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/24/18 08:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Well, when you are affiliated with NLF and make your own schedule anything is possible. If you are interested in playing for Crabs check out their website. It looks like the roster hasn’t been finalized and if you are on the 2023 team they want you to be hungry so RM can EAT you, I mean meet you! That is what people mean by your ship has sailed, sunk whatever!



Right because all the other clubs have their rosters posted already...

Your post makes no sense. You say that 2023s should be hungry so Ryan can eat you? And that's what people mean by your ship has sailed(or sunk). I gotta say you've got me convinced. I love when Harford and AA county trash posts on here. Keeps the low brow humor at the expected level.


Not from AA or Harford County but I’m sure you have players are part of your program that are. I am sure they don’t appreciate your judgement! If you are a step above everyone then your roster should be posted. Guess you just proved that you are not a step above but a few steps behind. Kids can play for a losing club anywhere, why deal with someone who refers to themselves as “King Crab”?


LOL. Are you ignorant enough to think he refers to himself as King Crab?

Go ahead and let me know one club that has their roster posted for this year. Go ahead. I'll wait to see who Crabs is a step behind in terms of posting their roster.

Guess I'll keep going down the state. Calvert County? Somewhere that English is a second language?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/25/18 03:30 PM
Not a member of the Crabs, but runner up in 2 of the top 4 tournaments all summer is nothing to snooze at. NFL tournaments were stacked in both events. The last having every top 5 team playing in it and most of the top 10 teams. Even if they did bring in players. Bringing in players is what the Crabs have always done. Players from other states that can't commute during spring. 91MD has followed suit and both teams where a bit better for it. If you sign up for these programs you can expect it. Crabs have been doing it for years.
The name calling on here is priceless. Getting on post for grammar and punctuation is hilarious. What are we writing term papers on here? Baltimore folks joking on AA or any other county is classic. Baltimore folks do know that the majority of the top players that have ever played for Crabs have come from AA County. Every Baltimore club has kids from every county on them. This is not up for debate. Posting rosters? Seriously? Yes , I dare someone to post my kids name on an open forum that allows anonymous posts. Every coach, club, as the right to see any roster prior to any competition.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/25/18 04:33 PM
Locally grown, nationally known. Crabs may have to change that. Bringing in players isn’t new, but it’s an indication that the local boys aren’t as enamored with the program. Still a strong program and they performed well this summer. Crabs will get stronger in HS. Hawks still the cream of this class. Good summer for Maryland teams. Crabs in finals of both NLF events and semis of Crab Feast, 91 MD winning NLF, Hawks winning Naptown and semis of Crab Feast, Roughriders winning Crab Feast and semis of Naptown, FCA finals of Crab Feast. Some do it with guest players and some don’t, but if you are on one of these top teams, your kid will get the looks they need to get recruited.

Whether rosters are posted on this anonymous forum or not, many clubs post their rosters. Crabs, FCA and Roughriders for starters.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/25/18 04:59 PM
Nothing like paying over $2k to sit on the bench for a team that imports players that reduce your son's playing time significantly. Then to top it off, you don't make the Conference semis and fail to win one measly summer tournament. I guess you can always sell your Crabs gear online for a premium to a bigger chump than you....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/25/18 05:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a member of the Crabs, but runner up in 2 of the top 4 tournaments all summer is nothing to snooze at. NFL tournaments were stacked in both events. The last having every top 5 team playing in it and most of the top 10 teams. Even if they did bring in players. Bringing in players is what the Crabs have always done. Players from other states that can't commute during spring. 91MD has followed suit and both teams where a bit better for it. If you sign up for these programs you can expect it. Crabs have been doing it for years.
The name calling on here is priceless. Getting on post for grammar and punctuation is hilarious. What are we writing term papers on here? Baltimore folks joking on AA or any other county is classic. Baltimore folks do know that the majority of the top players that have ever played for Crabs have come from AA County. Every Baltimore club has kids from every county on them. This is not up for debate. Posting rosters? Seriously? Yes , I dare someone to post my kids name on an open forum that allows anonymous posts. Every coach, club, as the right to see any roster prior to any competition.


Exactly how youth sports was meant to be played..Holdbacks and bringing in out of state players for tournaments. Crabs and 91 are getting very good at it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/25/18 06:35 PM
Used to post UA rosters but stopped because so embarrassing that most Baltimore kids were snowflake holdback is which showed the rest of the world (as did crabs 2021 in YWSL) that Baltimore needs holdbacks to beat on age teams. Thanks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/25/18 07:18 PM
Do you clowns spend this much time living through your sons on the grades forum?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/25/18 07:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do you clowns spend this much time living through your sons on the grades forum?


Relax Ryan. No one is taking your holdbacks from you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/25/18 09:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nothing like paying over $2k to sit on the bench for a team that imports players that reduce your son's playing time significantly. Then to top it off, you don't make the Conference semis and fail to win one measly summer tournament. I guess you can always sell your Crabs gear online for a premium to a bigger chump than you....


Yikes. Sounds like some bitterness.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/26/18 03:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Used to post UA rosters but stopped because so embarrassing that most Baltimore kids were snowflake holdback is which showed the rest of the world (as did crabs 2021 in YWSL) that Baltimore needs holdbacks to beat on age teams. Thanks.


That actually was Hilarious. That got taken down so quick. Last Year even Balt guru of recruiting Xanders made a tweet about something needs to be done about the age/grade holdbacks at UA. UA teams from certain areas are holdbacks upon holdbacks. Crazy stuff.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/26/18 03:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do you clowns spend this much time living through your sons on the grades forum?


As much time as you do buddy !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/26/18 09:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a member of the Crabs, but runner up in 2 of the top 4 tournaments all summer is nothing to snooze at. NFL tournaments were stacked in both events. The last having every top 5 team playing in it and most of the top 10 teams. Even if they did bring in players. Bringing in players is what the Crabs have always done. Players from other states that can't commute during spring. 91MD has followed suit and both teams where a bit better for it. If you sign up for these programs you can expect it. Crabs have been doing it for years.
The name calling on here is priceless. Getting on post for grammar and punctuation is hilarious. What are we writing term papers on here? Baltimore folks joking on AA or any other county is classic. Baltimore folks do know that the majority of the top players that have ever played for Crabs have come from AA County. Every Baltimore club has kids from every county on them. This is not up for debate. Posting rosters? Seriously? Yes , I dare someone to post my kids name on an open forum that allows anonymous posts. Every coach, club, as the right to see any roster prior to any competition.


Pretty decent post but saying that a majority of the top players that ever played for crabs are from AA county is laughable. Check the alumni page. If what you say is correct Spalding and Severn wouldn’t stink year in and year out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/27/18 02:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a member of the Crabs, but runner up in 2 of the top 4 tournaments all summer is nothing to snooze at. NFL tournaments were stacked in both events. The last having every top 5 team playing in it and most of the top 10 teams. Even if they did bring in players. Bringing in players is what the Crabs have always done. Players from other states that can't commute during spring. 91MD has followed suit and both teams where a bit better for it. If you sign up for these programs you can expect it. Crabs have been doing it for years.
The name calling on here is priceless. Getting on post for grammar and punctuation is hilarious. What are we writing term papers on here? Baltimore folks joking on AA or any other county is classic. Baltimore folks do know that the majority of the top players that have ever played for Crabs have come from AA County. Every Baltimore club has kids from every county on them. This is not up for debate. Posting rosters? Seriously? Yes , I dare someone to post my kids name on an open forum that allows anonymous posts. Every coach, club, as the right to see any roster prior to any competition.


Pretty decent post but saying that a majority of the top players that ever played for crabs are from AA county is laughable. Check the alumni page. If what you say is correct Spalding and Severn wouldn’t stink year in and year out.


Delusional about AA County having Majority?? Where did you get that info from? Players are from everywhere, but AA having some claim to the most Crabs. Laughable

Many Clubs post rosters on their website. Not sure what you are saying??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/27/18 02:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a member of the Crabs, but runner up in 2 of the top 4 tournaments all summer is nothing to snooze at. NFL tournaments were stacked in both events. The last having every top 5 team playing in it and most of the top 10 teams. Even if they did bring in players. Bringing in players is what the Crabs have always done. Players from other states that can't commute during spring. 91MD has followed suit and both teams where a bit better for it. If you sign up for these programs you can expect it. Crabs have been doing it for years.
The name calling on here is priceless. Getting on post for grammar and punctuation is hilarious. What are we writing term papers on here? Baltimore folks joking on AA or any other county is classic. Baltimore folks do know that the majority of the top players that have ever played for Crabs have come from AA County. Every Baltimore club has kids from every county on them. This is not up for debate. Posting rosters? Seriously? Yes , I dare someone to post my kids name on an open forum that allows anonymous posts. Every coach, club, as the right to see any roster prior to any competition.


Pretty decent post but saying that a majority of the top players that ever played for crabs are from AA county is laughable. Check the alumni page. If what you say is correct Spalding and Severn wouldn’t stink year in and year out.


Have you checked the Spalding results from the last several years? THEY DO stink. Lax power Reality
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/27/18 01:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a member of the Crabs, but runner up in 2 of the top 4 tournaments all summer is nothing to snooze at. NFL tournaments were stacked in both events. The last having every top 5 team playing in it and most of the top 10 teams. Even if they did bring in players. Bringing in players is what the Crabs have always done. Players from other states that can't commute during spring. 91MD has followed suit and both teams where a bit better for it. If you sign up for these programs you can expect it. Crabs have been doing it for years.
The name calling on here is priceless. Getting on post for grammar and punctuation is hilarious. What are we writing term papers on here? Baltimore folks joking on AA or any other county is classic. Baltimore folks do know that the majority of the top players that have ever played for Crabs have come from AA County. Every Baltimore club has kids from every county on them. This is not up for debate. Posting rosters? Seriously? Yes , I dare someone to post my kids name on an open forum that allows anonymous posts. Every coach, club, as the right to see any roster prior to any competition.


Pretty decent post but saying that a majority of the top players that ever played for crabs are from AA county is laughable. Check the alumni page. If what you say is correct Spalding and Severn wouldn’t stink year in and year out.


Delusional about AA County having Majority?? Where did you get that info from? Players are from everywhere, but AA having some claim to the most Crabs. Laughable

Many Clubs post rosters on their website. Not sure what you are saying??



Players are from everywhere which is the point ! Baltimore folks acting like they have some superiority over others. It is a fact that the BEST players on almost every Talented Crabs team was not from Baltimore and a good majority of them come from AA. Delusional and laughable is trying to argue the FACT.
Posting your roster on your club site is one thing, which very few if any do especially for the Elite teams, and posting on a site like this for dirt balls to argue over is completely different. Not sure what you don't get?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/27/18 01:46 PM
Who have you heard they added
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/27/18 03:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Players are from everywhere which is the point ! Baltimore folks acting like they have some superiority over others. It is a fact that the BEST players on almost every Talented Crabs team was not from Baltimore and a good majority of them come from AA. Delusional and laughable is trying to argue the FACT.
Posting your roster on your club site is one thing, which very few if any do especially for the Elite teams, and posting on a site like this for dirt balls to argue over is completely different. Not sure what you don't get?


My point about the rosters is to the stunad posting that Crabs is struggling which is why they haven't posted their roster yet. Crabs, FCA, Roughriders, etc always post their rosters. They just aren't posted yet.

Again. To say that a MAJORITY of Crabs top players over the years are from AA is just not a true statement.

Go to https://crabslax.com/AlumniCrabs.aspx

Certainly is a minority of those kids from AA County.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/27/18 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Have you checked the Spalding results from the last several years? THEY DO stink. Lax power Reality


Past several years? They have been awful for decades and there is zero lacrosse tradition there.

HOWEVER, Past performance is not an indicator of future results. Spalding is having a #movement and they are going to be really good next year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/27/18 03:44 PM
Did Looneys field a 2022 team? What happened? Where did the kids go? Interesting since after 4th grade the coach left Koopers and took most of that team to Looneys.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/27/18 04:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did Looneys field a 2022 team? What happened? Where did the kids go? Interesting since after 4th grade the coach left Koopers and took most of that team to Looneys.


No Looneys 2022 team anymore. Couple went to Crabs. Bunch went to Koopers. Coach's son went to FCA.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/27/18 06:11 PM
Is it really necessary to spend $2-3 thousand per year for club if you know your son isn't going to play D1? Fun yes, but is he better off getting smaller group lessons from a great private coach once or twice per week, doing UA tryouts and several prospect camps during this first two high school summers and playing college summer league ($125) his rising senior summer?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/27/18 06:34 PM
No...you MUST play travel...now stop asking....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 02:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a member of the Crabs, but runner up in 2 of the top 4 tournaments all summer is nothing to snooze at. NFL tournaments were stacked in both events. The last having every top 5 team playing in it and most of the top 10 teams. Even if they did bring in players. Bringing in players is what the Crabs have always done. Players from other states that can't commute during spring. 91MD has followed suit and both teams where a bit better for it. If you sign up for these programs you can expect it. Crabs have been doing it for years.
The name calling on here is priceless. Getting on post for grammar and punctuation is hilarious. What are we writing term papers on here? Baltimore folks joking on AA or any other county is classic. Baltimore folks do know that the majority of the top players that have ever played for Crabs have come from AA County. Every Baltimore club has kids from every county on them. This is not up for debate. Posting rosters? Seriously? Yes , I dare someone to post my kids name on an open forum that allows anonymous posts. Every coach, club, as the right to see any roster prior to any competition.


Pretty decent post but saying that a majority of the top players that ever played for crabs are from AA county is laughable. Check the alumni page. If what you say is correct Spalding and Severn wouldn’t stink year in and year out.


Delusional about AA County having Majority?? Where did you get that info from? Players are from everywhere, but AA having some claim to the most Crabs. Laughable

Many Clubs post rosters on their website. Not sure what you are saying??



Players are from everywhere which is the point ! Baltimore folks acting like they have some superiority over others. It is a fact that the BEST players on almost every Talented Crabs team was not from Baltimore and a good majority of them come from AA. Delusional and laughable is trying to argue the FACT.
Posting your roster on your club site is one thing, which very few if any do especially for the Elite teams, and posting on a site like this for dirt balls to argue over is completely different. Not sure what you don't get?


AA 560,000 Balt CO 830,000

Balt Co has a huge population of parents that have played lacrosse, MIAA BL,Gil,McD, Loyo, CH have majority of kids from Balt County. Those are real FACTS.. Keep dreaming about AA.

You really are worked up over this roster thing. I dont see any kids names posted here, but I do on Club sites. Not sure what you are getting worked up about??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 12:05 PM
What are the top fall tournaments?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 01:30 PM
Looks like Crabs intends to add a 2022 hardshells team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 02:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like Crabs intends to add a 2022 hardshells team.


Hardshells is different than it used to be. Hardshells is for eastern shore kids now as opposed to basically being a B team for coach's kids that weren't good enough to make Crabs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 02:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like Crabs intends to add a 2022 hardshells team.


Hardshells is different than it used to be. Hardshells is for eastern shore kids now as opposed to basically being a B team for coach's kids that weren't good enough to make Crabs.


Very funny, plenty of good players (better than the current Crab's team) on the Eastern Shore. They just happen to play for other clubs. Kent Island, Easton, etc. all have some great (not B) players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 02:54 PM
Koopers is doing a second team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like Crabs intends to add a 2022 hardshells team.


Hardshells is different than it used to be. Hardshells is for eastern shore kids now as opposed to basically being a B team for coach's kids that weren't good enough to make Crabs.


Very funny, plenty of good players (better than the current Crab's team) on the Eastern Shore. They just happen to play for other clubs. Kent Island, Easton, etc. all have some great (not B) players.


Eastern shore kids better than the current Crabs 2022 team? Ok.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 04:41 PM
The difference with the Crabs being their 22s are actually 21s and 20s.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 05:24 PM
Not a full team but yes individuals. There are at least 3-4 players that would be an upgrade to the Crabs 2022 roster.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 05:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The difference with the Crabs being their 22s are actually 21s and 20s.


Thanks. We really need to discuss the holdback issue here again. It's been a few days. Show me one team that doesn't have holdbacks(by choice of the club not because they stink and kids don't want to play for them) and then it becomes a worthy discussion.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Locally grown, nationally known. Crabs may have to change that. Bringing in players isn’t new, but it’s an indication that the local boys aren’t as enamored with the program. Still a strong program and they performed well this summer. Crabs will get stronger in HS. Hawks still the cream of this class. Good summer for Maryland teams. Crabs in finals of both NLF events and semis of Crab Feast, 91 MD winning NLF, Hawks winning Naptown and semis of Crab Feast, Roughriders winning Crab Feast and semis of Naptown, FCA finals of Crab Feast. Some do it with guest players and some don’t, but if you are on one of these top teams, your kid will get the looks they need to get recruited.

Whether rosters are posted on this anonymous forum or not, many clubs post their rosters. Crabs, FCA and Roughriders for starters.

Crabs also made the semi-finals of Young Guns.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Players are from everywhere which is the point ! Baltimore folks acting like they have some superiority over others. It is a fact that the BEST players on almost every Talented Crabs team was not from Baltimore and a good majority of them come from AA. Delusional and laughable is trying to argue the FACT.
Posting your roster on your club site is one thing, which very few if any do especially for the Elite teams, and posting on a site like this for dirt balls to argue over is completely different. Not sure what you don't get?


My point about the rosters is to the stunad posting that Crabs is struggling which is why they haven't posted their roster yet. Crabs, FCA, Roughriders, etc always post their rosters. They just aren't posted yet.

Again. To say that a MAJORITY of Crabs top players over the years are from AA is just not a true statement.

Go to https://crabslax.com/AlumniCrabs.aspx

Certainly is a minority of those kids from AA County.


haha, thanks for providing the proof.. every team on there especially there most talented teams from the past 10 years has at least 2 AA kids if not more, and this kids were the top players on those teams. You can't just look at the schools they went to because many of them did got to BL,CH,MCD.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/28/18 07:40 PM
Again, it's a huge stretch to say a majority of the top players on Crabs were from AA. It's not even close or debatable. Not sure why you keep on about this. I am well aware that the school doesn't have anything to do with where the kid is from. However I know almost all of these kids and coached some of these teams and you are just spouting nonsense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/18/18 12:47 AM
Who is playing where this fall?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/18/18 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is playing where this fall?

You go first.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/18/18 06:49 PM
2022 class has some very good talent. How many from this class can crack a Varsity team this Spring? Public, MIAA, WCAC varsity teams are very tough to make as freshman.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/18/18 07:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 class has some very good talent. How many from this class can crack a Varsity team this Spring? Public, MIAA, WCAC varsity teams are very tough to make as freshman.


All of the 2022's at Spalding will make Varsity, and start all season. They will also all be All-MIAA and All-American's and Spalding will start their string of 4 straight MIAA tournament championships. If they aren't then Ripley is going to implode.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/18/18 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 class has some very good talent. How many from this class can crack a Varsity team this Spring? Public, MIAA, WCAC varsity teams are very tough to make as freshman.


Clearly you've never had a kid play D1. All that matters is where the player is the summer before his junior year. No one cares who makes varsity as a freshman. If you make it and sit the pine, you may have been better off to play for a good JV program and get 100% of the reps. Frankly, if you're good enough, you don't need to play any club until that summer if at all. Seriously, all a coach needs to do is see a stud once or twice (UA and a showcase suffice) and he's getting an offer. Those players jump off of the page (usually big, fast and great stickwork at least at M and D).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/19/18 12:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 class has some very good talent. How many from this class can crack a Varsity team this Spring? Public, MIAA, WCAC varsity teams are very tough to make as freshman.


All of the 2022's at Spalding will make Varsity, and start all season. They will also all be All-MIAA and All-American's and Spalding will start their string of 4 straight MIAA tournament championships. If they aren't then Ripley is going to implode.


A man who knows his lacrosse ! Even tho I do think they will win only 3 out of 4 ships !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/19/18 11:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 class has some very good talent. How many from this class can crack a Varsity team this Spring? Public, MIAA, WCAC varsity teams are very tough to make as freshman.


All of the 2022's at Spalding will make Varsity, and start all season. They will also all be All-MIAA and All-American's and Spalding will start their string of 4 straight MIAA tournament championships. If they aren't then Ripley is going to implode.


My guess is most will make the freshman team and not see the field.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/19/18 12:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 class has some very good talent. How many from this class can crack a Varsity team this Spring? Public, MIAA, WCAC varsity teams are very tough to make as freshman.


All of the 2022's at Spalding will make Varsity, and start all season. They will also all be All-MIAA and All-American's and Spalding will start their string of 4 straight MIAA tournament championships. If they aren't then Ripley is going to implode.


My guess is most will make the freshman team and not see the field.


You guess wrong. BK is running the lacrosse boosters group and Phipps is a hawks puppet. 2022's will be starters on V.

It still amazes me that people would send their kids to Spalding.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/19/18 03:05 PM
So, when is #MeToo going to catch up with Blackwolf? Or are all the BW moms willing to overlook the past to supposedly advance their son's careers? Shameless.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/19/18 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, when is #MeToo going to catch up with Blackwolf? Or are all the BW moms willing to overlook the past to supposedly advance their son's careers? Shameless.


This again? First off, no one cares about Blackwolf. Secondly, why do you keep bringing up stuff that happened years ago over and over? Thirdly, this is a Maryland thread.

I have a 2019 and a 2022 at a top club and I have never seen Blackwolf at a tournament. Do they even exist anymore?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/19/18 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 class has some very good talent. How many from this class can crack a Varsity team this Spring? Public, MIAA, WCAC varsity teams are very tough to make as freshman.


All of the 2022's at Spalding will make Varsity, and start all season. They will also all be All-MIAA and All-American's and Spalding will start their string of 4 straight MIAA tournament championships. If they aren't then Ripley is going to implode.


My guess is most will make the freshman team and not see the field.


You guess wrong. BK is running the lacrosse boosters group and Phipps is a hawks puppet. 2022's will be starters on V.

It still amazes me that people would send their kids to Spalding.


Ripley and BK despise each other so watch for that dynamic too
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/19/18 09:22 PM
Please just finish string my stick....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/23/18 11:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 class has some very good talent. How many from this class can crack a Varsity team this Spring? Public, MIAA, WCAC varsity teams are very tough to make as freshman.


Clearly you've never had a kid play D1. All that matters is where the player is the summer before his junior year. No one cares who makes varsity as a freshman. If you make it and sit the pine, you may have been better off to play for a good JV program and get 100% of the reps. Frankly, if you're good enough, you don't need to play any club until that summer if at all. Seriously, all a coach needs to do is see a stud once or twice (UA and a showcase suffice) and he's getting an offer. Those players jump off of the page (usually big, fast and great stickwork at least at M and D).



Clearly! Clearly the question wasn't who will play D-1. I guess reading and comprehension is not a requirement when replying to a post. Thanks however for your input .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/24/18 04:06 AM
No one cares especially not the recruiters. Aside from some nut job dads who cares?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/24/18 12:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Locally grown, nationally known. Crabs may have to change that. Bringing in players isn’t new, but it’s an indication that the local boys aren’t as enamored with the program. Still a strong program and they performed well this summer. Crabs will get stronger in HS. Hawks still the cream of this class. Good summer for Maryland teams. Crabs in finals of both NLF events and semis of Crab Feast, 91 MD winning NLF, Hawks winning Naptown and semis of Crab Feast, Roughriders winning Crab Feast and semis of Naptown, FCA finals of Crab Feast. Some do it with guest players and some don’t, but if you are on one of these top teams, your kid will get the looks they need to get recruited.

Whether rosters are posted on this anonymous forum or not, many clubs post their rosters. Crabs, FCA and Roughriders for starters.

Crabs also made the semi-finals of Young Guns.


Young Guns was mostly B teams at 2022. Crab Feast has the A team’s for 2022 this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/24/18 12:30 PM
It seems like the Towson Gold Standard Autumn Gold Showcases have the best teams in them this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/24/18 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It seems like the Towson Gold Standard Autumn Gold Showcases have the best teams in them this year.



Who is playing?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/24/18 03:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It seems like the Towson Gold Standard Autumn Gold Showcases have the best teams in them this year.


That's too much gold for me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/25/18 06:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It seems like the Towson Gold Standard Autumn Gold Showcases have the best teams in them this year.



Who is playing?



Yes, please fill us in and let us all know who is playing in it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/25/18 06:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No one cares especially not the recruiters. Aside from some nut job dads who cares?


Plenty of people care. Especially the crazy dads. It wasn't a question about recruitment or who will play D-1. Not everyone on here is a bitter ,crazed ,let me live my life thru my teenager, lunatic sideline screaming donk off! It was simply to state the awesome amount of talent for this age group in this region and the possibility some young men might make Varsity freshman year. Everyone knows the ups and downs that comes along with it. Playing time vs riding the pine. However there has been plenty of freshman over the past few years who have come right in and made huge contributions to team. MIAA teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/26/18 12:01 AM
Hi. SO excited about Spalding in 2019 and in future years. Can anyone on this websight comment on the relationship between Ripley and BK? I don't now either personally but to me this relationship is the single most important factor in what we like to call "the movement". I am very hopeful.

I am sure Rip's guys have the attention of the powers that be in Rabil's new league. Do you think this alone will wreck the relationship between BK and Rip? I sure hope not.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/26/18 01:30 AM
Excited about Spalding in ‘19? Why? They stink. Always have - always will. What do Rip and BK (whoever they are) have to do with a high school program? They aren’t the coaches. Unless you live in the Bernie or Dedna why in the world would you chose to play lacrosse there? If you like losing it’s the perfect place.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/26/18 12:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hi. SO excited about Spalding in 2019 and in future years. Can anyone on this websight comment on the relationship between Ripley and BK? I don't now either personally but to me this relationship is the single most important factor in what we like to call "the movement". I am very hopeful.

I am sure Rip's guys have the attention of the powers that be in Rabil's new league. Do you think this alone will wreck the relationship between BK and Rip? I sure hope not.


I think Rip is the pitcher and BK is the catcher.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/26/18 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nothing like paying over $2k to sit on the bench for a team that imports players that reduce your son's playing time significantly. Then to top it off, you don't make the Conference semis and fail to win one measly summer tournament. I guess you can always sell your Crabs gear online for a premium to a bigger chump than you....


Yikes. Sounds like some bitterness.


Try selling an Evergreen helmet. PlayItAgain wouldn’t even take the chin strap.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/26/18 05:09 PM
Wrong Autumn Platinum will have the best teams playing

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It seems like the Towson Gold Standard Autumn Gold Showcases have the best teams in them this year.


That's too much gold for me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/26/18 05:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hi. SO excited about Spalding in 2019 and in future years. Can anyone on this websight comment on the relationship between Ripley and BK? I don't now either personally but to me this relationship is the single most important factor in what we like to call "the movement". I am very hopeful.

I am sure Rip's guys have the attention of the powers that be in Rabil's new league. Do you think this alone will wreck the relationship between BK and Rip? I sure hope not.


I think Rip is the pitcher and BK is the catcher.


It just depends on what inning it is, sometimes they switch positions.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/26/18 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hi. SO excited about Spalding in 2019 and in future years. Can anyone on this websight comment on the relationship between Ripley and BK? I don't now either personally but to me this relationship is the single most important factor in what we like to call "the movement". I am very hopeful.

I am sure Rip's guys have the attention of the powers that be in Rabil's new league. Do you think this alone will wreck the relationship between BK and Rip? I sure hope not.


Severna Park HS is a better school with better facilities than Spalding and Severn. And it's free. They can probably even teach your son how to spell website. Not sure why anyone pays for the child to go to Spalding.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/26/18 11:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hi. SO excited about Spalding in 2019 and in future years. Can anyone on this websight comment on the relationship between Ripley and BK? I don't now either personally but to me this relationship is the single most important factor in what we like to call "the movement". I am very hopeful.

I am sure Rip's guys have the attention of the powers that be in Rabil's new league. Do you think this alone will wreck the relationship between BK and Rip? I sure hope not.


I think Rip is the pitcher and BK is the catcher.


It just depends on what inning it is, sometimes they switch positions.


What?? What is this all about? Doesnt make sense
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 09/28/18 05:43 PM
People who come here and make personal attacks and negative comments about Coaches and joke around like this is completely out of line . Almost every head coach at this level or any level has a son or at the very least kids. Asking people on this thread to comment about 2 peoples relationships is flat out comical. If the relationship is so important to you just ask either of them or even better ask the head coach at Splading. If you had any guts at all that would be the path to take for your concerns . Sadly, if you knew any of them at all you would know how approachable and easy it is to have complete access to them. What is "the movement" ? Sounds like if are already apart of that program it is a little late to be trying to figure out anything. Enjoy that ride and have fun bashing a program and good men that are the leaders and supporters of the program. Comments and remarks like the above only remind all of us just how sad the parents and clueless about that program.
Good luck to those 2 coaches, supporters, fathers and the head coach with navigating these clowns for the next few years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 10/10/18 10:13 PM
What are top fall tournaments and who is playing in them?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 10/11/18 02:04 PM
Blatant fall jam is our on tourne machine so interesting line ups!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 10/12/18 07:40 PM
North American Lacrosse Fall Event on 11/11 in New Castle, DE.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 10/12/18 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
North American Lacrosse Fall Event on 11/11 in New Castle, DE.


The website says these teams are attending:
Annapolis Hawks
BBL
Freedom
Igloo
Iron Horse Austin
Iron Horse Dallas
Juiced Cherries
Laxachusetts
Leading Edge
LI Express
LI Legacy
Madlax-Capital
NH Tomahawks
Prime Time
Richmond Hawks
Rising Sons
Sweetlax FL
Sweetlax NY
Team 91 MD
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 10/23/18 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People who come here and make personal attacks and negative comments about Coaches and joke around like this is completely out of line . Almost every head coach at this level or any level has a son or at the very least kids. Asking people on this thread to comment about 2 peoples relationships is flat out comical. If the relationship is so important to you just ask either of them or even better ask the head coach at Splading. If you had any guts at all that would be the path to take for your concerns . Sadly, if you knew any of them at all you would know how approachable and easy it is to have complete access to them. What is "the movement" ? Sounds like if are already apart of that program it is a little late to be trying to figure out anything. Enjoy that ride and have fun bashing a program and good men that are the leaders and supporters of the program. Comments and remarks like the above only remind all of us just how sad the parents and clueless about that program.
Good luck to those 2 coaches, supporters, fathers and the head coach with navigating these clowns for the next few years.


OK Rip
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 10/23/18 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People who come here and make personal attacks and negative comments about Coaches and joke around like this is completely out of line . Almost every head coach at this level or any level has a son or at the very least kids. Asking people on this thread to comment about 2 peoples relationships is flat out comical. If the relationship is so important to you just ask either of them or even better ask the head coach at Splading. If you had any guts at all that would be the path to take for your concerns . Sadly, if you knew any of them at all you would know how approachable and easy it is to have complete access to them. What is "the movement" ? Sounds like if are already apart of that program it is a little late to be trying to figure out anything. Enjoy that ride and have fun bashing a program and good men that are the leaders and supporters of the program. Comments and remarks like the above only remind all of us just how sad the parents and clueless about that program.
Good luck to those 2 coaches, supporters, fathers and the head coach with navigating these clowns for the next few years.


With an attitude like that. This place would be dullsville !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 10/24/18 10:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hi. SO excited about Spalding in 2019 and in future years. Can anyone on this websight comment on the relationship between Ripley and BK? I don't now either personally but to me this relationship is the single most important factor in what we like to call "the movement". I am very hopeful.

I am sure Rip's guys have the attention of the powers that be in Rabil's new league. Do you think this alone will wreck the relationship between BK and Rip? I sure hope not.


I think Rip is the pitcher and BK is the catcher.


It just depends on what inning it is, sometimes they switch positions.


What?? What is this all about? Doesnt make sense


LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 10/28/18 01:11 AM
Anyone check out the BOC rankings?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 10/28/18 11:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone check out the BOC rankings?

The what? Enlighten us.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 10/28/18 12:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone check out the BOC rankings?

The what? Enlighten us.


Top right hand side of page click on rankings.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/02/18 05:54 PM
Any good fall matchups happening this weekend ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/04/18 09:51 PM
NOVA SPOTLIGHT - RESULTS from today's Terrapin Classic:

Madlax Capital 9 Patriots 5
Patriots 7 Blackwolf 4

Madlax Capital 13 STEPS 2
Blackwolf 7 STEPS 6

Blackwolf is not even better than Madlax Capital. BLACKWOLF, don't believe the hype. VLC won like 1 HOCO game the last two years. Madlax, best in NOVA.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/04/18 11:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NOVA SPOTLIGHT - RESULTS from today's Terrapin Classic:

Madlax Capital 9 Patriots 5
Patriots 7 Blackwolf 4

Madlax Capital 13 STEPS 2
Blackwolf 7 STEPS 6

Blackwolf is not even better than Madlax Capital. BLACKWOLF, don't believe the hype. VLC won like 1 HOCO game the last two years. Madlax, best in NOVA.

Yeah but how did Evergreen do?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/05/18 01:53 AM
What is the deal with Hawks and St. Mary’s school social media feuding
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/05/18 10:45 AM
[img]https://imgur.com/NKLBxWf[/img]
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/05/18 05:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


The Ripley effect.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/05/18 06:54 PM
Judging by that gem I'm gonna guess a 13-year-old is running that Hawks account. Whoever it is needs to have a deep breath and count to 10 before composing a post and then needs to run a spelling and grammar check on it before hitting "Share."

The post has been deleted so the grown-ups must have gotten involved.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/05/18 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NOVA SPOTLIGHT - RESULTS from today's Terrapin Classic:

Madlax Capital 9 Patriots 5
Patriots 7 Blackwolf 4

Madlax Capital 13 STEPS 2
Blackwolf 7 STEPS 6

Blackwolf is not even better than Madlax Capital. BLACKWOLF, don't believe the hype. VLC won like 1 HOCO game the last two years. Madlax, best in NOVA.

Yeah but how did Evergreen do?


All the DMV teams did well at the Terrapin Fall Classic Playday:
Blackwolf 2-1 (loss to Patriot)
Madlax 3-0
MD Roughriders: 3-0
Next Level: 2-0-1 (tied Southshore)

A few other teams were undefeated also (Sweetlax FL, Iron Horse Dallas). Too bad they didn't have playoffs.

Strange playing these games on mini-fields carved out of baseball diamonds. Maplezone is nice for baseball. Not great for lacrosse past 6th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/05/18 09:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Judging by that gem I'm gonna guess a 13-year-old is running that Hawks account. Whoever it is needs to have a deep breath and count to 10 before composing a post and then needs to run a spelling and grammar check on it before hitting "Share."

The post has been deleted so the grown-ups must have gotten involved.




I'm sure everyone involved is embarrassed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/06/18 02:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Judging by that gem I'm gonna guess a 13-year-old is running that Hawks account. Whoever it is needs to have a deep breath and count to 10 before composing a post and then needs to run a spelling and grammar check on it before hitting "Share."

The post has been deleted so the grown-ups must have gotten involved.


Here is the funny part. Ripley himself runs that account.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/06/18 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Judging by that gem I'm gonna guess a 13-year-old is running that Hawks account. Whoever it is needs to have a deep breath and count to 10 before composing a post and then needs to run a spelling and grammar check on it before hitting "Share."

The post has been deleted so the grown-ups must have gotten involved.


Here is the funny part. Ripley himself runs that account.

Amateur hour. Good luck coach Phipps.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/06/18 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Judging by that gem I'm gonna guess a 13-year-old is running that Hawks account. Whoever it is needs to have a deep breath and count to 10 before composing a post and then needs to run a spelling and grammar check on it before hitting "Share."

The post has been deleted so the grown-ups must have gotten involved.


Here is the funny part. Ripley himself runs that account.

Amateur hour. Good luck coach Phipps.


Does Spalding play DeMatha this Spring? darn that was an A$$ kicking.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/06/18 07:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NOVA SPOTLIGHT - RESULTS from today's Terrapin Classic:

Madlax Capital 9 Patriots 5
Patriots 7 Blackwolf 4

Madlax Capital 13 STEPS 2
Blackwolf 7 STEPS 6

Blackwolf is not even better than Madlax Capital. BLACKWOLF, don't believe the hype. VLC won like 1 HOCO game the last two years. Madlax, best in NOVA.

Yeah but how did Evergreen do?


All the DMV teams did well at the Terrapin Fall Classic Playday:
Blackwolf 2-1 (loss to Patriot)
Madlax 3-0
MD Roughriders: 3-0
Next Level: 2-0-1 (tied Southshore)

A few other teams were undefeated also (Sweetlax FL, Iron Horse Dallas). Too bad they didn't have playoffs.

Strange playing these games on mini-fields carved out of baseball diamonds. Maplezone is nice for baseball. Not great for lacrosse past 6th grade.




Blackwolf, AKA Evergreen South, beat two teams that were a combined 1-7-1 for the weekend. Pretty impressive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/06/18 09:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NOVA SPOTLIGHT - RESULTS from today's Terrapin Classic:

Madlax Capital 9 Patriots 5
Patriots 7 Blackwolf 4

Madlax Capital 13 STEPS 2
Blackwolf 7 STEPS 6

Blackwolf is not even better than Madlax Capital. BLACKWOLF, don't believe the hype. VLC won like 1 HOCO game the last two years. Madlax, best in NOVA.

Yeah but how did Evergreen do?


All the DMV teams did well at the Terrapin Fall Classic Playday:
Blackwolf 2-1 (loss to Patriot)
Madlax 3-0
MD Roughriders: 3-0
Next Level: 2-0-1 (tied Southshore)

A few other teams were undefeated also (Sweetlax FL, Iron Horse Dallas). Too bad they didn't have playoffs.

Strange playing these games on mini-fields carved out of baseball diamonds. Maplezone is nice for baseball. Not great for lacrosse past 6th grade.




Blackwolf, AKA Evergreen South, beat two teams that were a combined 1-7-1 for the weekend. Pretty impressive.

DC Express was winless at the Terrapin Classic. 2 ties
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/06/18 10:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NOVA SPOTLIGHT - RESULTS from today's Terrapin Classic:

Madlax Capital 9 Patriots 5
Patriots 7 Blackwolf 4

Madlax Capital 13 STEPS 2
Blackwolf 7 STEPS 6

Blackwolf is not even better than Madlax Capital. BLACKWOLF, don't believe the hype. VLC won like 1 HOCO game the last two years. Madlax, best in NOVA.

Yeah but how did Evergreen do?


All the DMV teams did well at the Terrapin Fall Classic Playday:
Blackwolf 2-1 (loss to Patriot)
Madlax 3-0
MD Roughriders: 3-0
Next Level: 2-0-1 (tied Southshore)

A few other teams were undefeated also (Sweetlax FL, Iron Horse Dallas). Too bad they didn't have playoffs.

Strange playing these games on mini-fields carved out of baseball diamonds. Maplezone is nice for baseball. Not great for lacrosse past 6th grade.




Blackwolf, AKA Evergreen South, beat two teams that were a combined 1-7-1 for the weekend. Pretty impressive.

EVG South that is good stuff
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 01:05 PM
The NAL - North American Lacrosse Fall Invitational 2018 looks to be one of the best events of the fall. Look at this line up of teams. (Is DC Dogs the old Club Blue 2022 team or are the 2023 DC Dogs playing up?)

Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite Black
DC Express
Express North - Bell
Fighting Clams
Georgia Tigers Elite
Igloo Artic Blast
Iron Horse - Austin
Iron Horse - Dallas
Juiced Cherries
Legacy Rebels
LI Express - Chan
Madlax - Capital
Madlax DC Dogs
NH Tomahawks
Orange Crush
Patriot Elite
Philadelphia Freedom
Predators
Prime Time
Richmond Hawks
Rising Sons
Sweetlax - FL
Sweetlax - NY
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The NAL - North American Lacrosse Fall Invitational 2018 looks to be one of the best events of the fall. Look at this line up of teams. (Is DC Dogs the old Club Blue 2022 team or are the 2023 DC Dogs playing up?)

Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite Black
DC Express
Express North - Bell
Fighting Clams
Georgia Tigers Elite
Igloo Artic Blast
Iron Horse - Austin
Iron Horse - Dallas
Juiced Cherries
Legacy Rebels
LI Express - Chan
Madlax - Capital
Madlax DC Dogs
NH Tomahawks
Orange Crush
Patriot Elite
Philadelphia Freedom
Predators
Prime Time
Richmond Hawks
Rising Sons
Sweetlax - FL
Sweetlax - NY

2023 DC Dogs are letting half the kids play with the correct group and half are playing up
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 02:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The NAL - North American Lacrosse Fall Invitational 2018 looks to be one of the best events of the fall. Look at this line up of teams. (Is DC Dogs the old Club Blue 2022 team or are the 2023 DC Dogs playing up?)

Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite Black
DC Express
Express North - Bell
Fighting Clams
Georgia Tigers Elite
Igloo Artic Blast
Iron Horse - Austin
Iron Horse - Dallas
Juiced Cherries
Legacy Rebels
LI Express - Chan
Madlax - Capital
Madlax DC Dogs
NH Tomahawks
Orange Crush
Patriot Elite
Philadelphia Freedom
Predators
Prime Time
Richmond Hawks
Rising Sons
Sweetlax - FL
Sweetlax - NY

DC Dogs are the 23s. Yes, they are playing up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 03:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The NAL - North American Lacrosse Fall Invitational 2018 looks to be one of the best events of the fall. Look at this line up of teams. (Is DC Dogs the old Club Blue 2022 team or are the 2023 DC Dogs playing up?)

Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite Black
DC Express
Express North - Bell
Fighting Clams
Georgia Tigers Elite
Igloo Artic Blast
Iron Horse - Austin
Iron Horse - Dallas
Juiced Cherries
Legacy Rebels
LI Express - Chan
Madlax - Capital
Madlax DC Dogs
NH Tomahawks
Orange Crush
Patriot Elite
Philadelphia Freedom
Predators
Prime Time
Richmond Hawks
Rising Sons
Sweetlax - FL
Sweetlax - NY

DC Dogs are the 23s. Yes, they are playing up.


Which means they are playing on age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The NAL - North American Lacrosse Fall Invitational 2018 looks to be one of the best events of the fall. Look at this line up of teams. (Is DC Dogs the old Club Blue 2022 team or are the 2023 DC Dogs playing up?)

Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite Black
DC Express
Express North - Bell
Fighting Clams
Georgia Tigers Elite
Igloo Artic Blast
Iron Horse - Austin
Iron Horse - Dallas
Juiced Cherries
Legacy Rebels
LI Express - Chan
Madlax - Capital
Madlax DC Dogs
NH Tomahawks
Orange Crush
Patriot Elite
Philadelphia Freedom
Predators
Prime Time
Richmond Hawks
Rising Sons
Sweetlax - FL
Sweetlax - NY

DC Dogs are the 23s. Yes, they are playing up.


Which means they are playing on age.

You better hope they do not go 3-0 on Sunday then what will you be saying about this team???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 04:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The NAL - North American Lacrosse Fall Invitational 2018 looks to be one of the best events of the fall. Look at this line up of teams. (Is DC Dogs the old Club Blue 2022 team or are the 2023 DC Dogs playing up?)

Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite Black
DC Express
Express North - Bell
Fighting Clams
Georgia Tigers Elite
Igloo Artic Blast
Iron Horse - Austin
Iron Horse - Dallas
Juiced Cherries
Legacy Rebels
LI Express - Chan
Madlax - Capital
Madlax DC Dogs
NH Tomahawks
Orange Crush
Patriot Elite
Philadelphia Freedom
Predators
Prime Time
Richmond Hawks
Rising Sons
Sweetlax - FL
Sweetlax - NY

DC Dogs are the 23s. Yes, they are playing up.


Which means they are playing on age.

Not really, not when there are so many holdbacks on these 22 teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 04:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The NAL - North American Lacrosse Fall Invitational 2018 looks to be one of the best events of the fall. Look at this line up of teams. (Is DC Dogs the old Club Blue 2022 team or are the 2023 DC Dogs playing up?)

Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite Black
DC Express
Express North - Bell
Fighting Clams
Georgia Tigers Elite
Igloo Artic Blast
Iron Horse - Austin
Iron Horse - Dallas
Juiced Cherries
Legacy Rebels
LI Express - Chan
Madlax - Capital
Madlax DC Dogs
NH Tomahawks
Orange Crush
Patriot Elite
Philadelphia Freedom
Predators
Prime Time
Richmond Hawks
Rising Sons
Sweetlax - FL
Sweetlax - NY

DC Dogs are the 23s. Yes, they are playing up.


Which means they are playing on age.

You better hope they do not go 3-0 on Sunday then what will you be saying about this team???


That they are a very good on age team for the 2022 division.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 04:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The NAL - North American Lacrosse Fall Invitational 2018 looks to be one of the best events of the fall. Look at this line up of teams. (Is DC Dogs the old Club Blue 2022 team or are the 2023 DC Dogs playing up?)

Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite Black
DC Express
Express North - Bell
Fighting Clams
Georgia Tigers Elite
Igloo Artic Blast
Iron Horse - Austin
Iron Horse - Dallas
Juiced Cherries
Legacy Rebels
LI Express - Chan
Madlax - Capital
Madlax DC Dogs
NH Tomahawks
Orange Crush
Patriot Elite
Philadelphia Freedom
Predators
Prime Time
Richmond Hawks
Rising Sons
Sweetlax - FL
Sweetlax - NY


Missing the best teams from MD based on the summer tournaments, Roughriders, Team 91 and Crabs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 05:54 PM
Their are some good teams listed fortunately for them they were scheduled against the lower end B/C of that age group. They would have played better competition playing local at the Battle of the Bay or the Terps Playday a few weeks ago and saved some time and $$.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 06:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Their are some good teams listed fortunately for them they were scheduled against the lower end B/C of that age group. They would have played better competition playing local at the Battle of the Bay or the Terps Playday a few weeks ago and saved some time and $$.


Why don't more fall events include playoffs? Do most people really prefer a playday? Who wouldn't want to see the best teams challenge each other?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 07:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Their are some good teams listed fortunately for them they were scheduled against the lower end B/C of that age group. They would have played better competition playing local at the Battle of the Bay or the Terps Playday a few weeks ago and saved some time and $$.


Why don't more fall events include playoffs? Do most people really prefer a playday? Who wouldn't want to see the best teams challenge each other?



This is now the HS age. Just a year or two ago these kids were deep in recruiting and the purpose of tournaments was to showcase. Winning a t-shirt is for Middle School Aloha tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 07:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Their are some good teams listed fortunately for them they were scheduled against the lower end B/C of that age group. They would have played better competition playing local at the Battle of the Bay or the Terps Playday a few weeks ago and saved some time and $$.


Why don't more fall events include playoffs? Do most people really prefer a playday? Who wouldn't want to see the best teams challenge each other?

Well the truth about this is these tournaments at 9th grade and above are to make the college coaches happy not the who has a better team crowed. This format allows the college coaches to see the best teams/ players on their schedule so they can plan ahead. You can really see it at the larger tournaments. There might be 8 fields with 11th grade teams playing but only two of the games has 10 or more college coaches. In a playoff format they would have to stay all day maybe to see this matchup they really came to see. Here is another bit of info people do not really know. The coaches have a list before they show up and they plan their day around that list of kids they are coming to see. They will make notes and add names true but most of the time they see the kid they came to see and move on to another game or tournament.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 07:45 PM
Its about the money (give backs, you scratch mine, I'll scratch yours) from the Club Owners, Greater BW private school players are better off playing for their high school teams and bagging club fees. You're not getting what you pay for parents: you're getting ripped off......But alas, you're only sheep... And don't feed me the recruiting fear stuff: I'm more experienced than you... With the recruiting window having been pushed back two full years and high schools playing more in the summer and fall, club matters less and less. Yes you are fighting the last war (out dated strategy, tactics and weapons).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/09/18 09:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its about the money (give backs, you scratch mine, I'll scratch yours) from the Club Owners, Greater BW private school players are better off playing for their high school teams and bagging club fees. You're not getting what you pay for parents: you're getting ripped off......But alas, you're only sheep... And don't feed me the recruiting fear stuff: I'm more experienced than you... With the recruiting window having been pushed back two full years and high schools playing more in the summer and fall, club matters less and less. Yes you are fighting the last war (out dated strategy, tactics and weapons).

No one is feeding you anything. What are you doing here with the sheep? Go.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/10/18 03:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The NAL - North American Lacrosse Fall Invitational 2018 looks to be one of the best events of the fall. Look at this line up of teams. (Is DC Dogs the old Club Blue 2022 team or are the 2023 DC Dogs playing up?)

Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite Black
DC Express
Express North - Bell
Fighting Clams
Georgia Tigers Elite
Igloo Artic Blast
Iron Horse - Austin
Iron Horse - Dallas
Juiced Cherries
Legacy Rebels
LI Express - Chan
Madlax - Capital
Madlax DC Dogs
NH Tomahawks
Orange Crush
Patriot Elite
Philadelphia Freedom
Predators
Prime Time
Richmond Hawks
Rising Sons
Sweetlax - FL
Sweetlax - NY


Missing the best teams from MD based on the summer tournaments, Roughriders, Team 91 and Crabs.


What did the Crabs win?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/10/18 03:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Their are some good teams listed fortunately for them they were scheduled against the lower end B/C of that age group. They would have played better competition playing local at the Battle of the Bay or the Terps Playday a few weeks ago and saved some time and $$.


Why don't more fall events include playoffs? Do most people really prefer a playday? Who wouldn't want to see the best teams challenge each other?

Well the truth about this is these tournaments at 9th grade and above are to make the college coaches happy not the who has a better team crowed. This format allows the college coaches to see the best teams/ players on their schedule so they can plan ahead. You can really see it at the larger tournaments. There might be 8 fields with 11th grade teams playing but only two of the games has 10 or more college coaches. In a playoff format they would have to stay all day maybe to see this matchup they really came to see. Here is another bit of info people do not really know. The coaches have a list before they show up and they plan their day around that list of kids they are coming to see. They will make notes and add names true but most of the time they see the kid they came to see and move on to another game or tournament.


But wouldn’t the coaches want to see how the kids did against decent competition? A lot of these games were 13-0. A playoff would be a better showcase.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/10/18 06:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is the deal with Hawks and St. Mary’s school social media feuding


I don't think it's a Hawks and St. Mary's issue, I think it's just Ripley being Ripley
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/10/18 09:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is the deal with Hawks and St. Mary’s school social media feuding


I don't think it's a Hawks and St. Mary's issue, I think it's just Ripley being Ripley


He preaches accountability and discipline but when those things were applied to HIS then, well, time to move on. Snowflake
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/10/18 11:21 PM
Any scores for the golden standard?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/11/18 09:00 PM
Real talk are Madlax DC Dogs 2023 better than Madlax Cap 2022?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 01:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Real talk are Madlax DC Dogs 2023 better than Madlax Cap 2022?


Aren’t the teams in the same club? Hold a scrimmage and find out.

Couldn’t beat the Richmond Hawks today so I would say it’s doubtful.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 01:56 AM
Hawks lost to LI Express
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 02:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Real talk are Madlax DC Dogs 2023 better than Madlax Cap 2022?


Based on scores today, I’d say so.
DC Dogs 2-1
Madlax 0-2-1

Not a great day for most DMV teams at NAL
DC Express 1-2
Hawks 2-1
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 01:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Real talk are Madlax DC Dogs 2023 better than Madlax Cap 2022?


Based on scores today, I’d say so.
DC Dogs 2-1
Madlax 0-2-1

Not a great day for most DMV teams at NAL
DC Express 1-2
Hawks 2-1





Those teams played teams at different levels of play. Can't compare based on yesterdays results. Just line them up and play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 01:50 PM
Easy on DC Express--like many teams missing key players for football and now hoop. They did show up well in last game beating LI Express by several. This team will be very good when all the pieces are in place.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 02:43 PM
The 3-0 teams really should have played each other at NAL - Sweetlax FL, Juiced Cherries, Igloo, Richmond Hawks, LI Express, and Predators.

Some of these teams really benefited from being in a week division.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 02:55 PM
Hawks had three good games but dropped a tough one versus the LI Express Chan by a goal. Fall ball is about evaluating players and experimenting as a coaching staff especially in a play day format (no playoffs or championships). Many kids are coming off of fall sports and may already be involved in winter sports so these fall tournaments are more for brushing off cobwebs and evaluating where kids are athletically versus winning every game. Every high school and college coach will tell you the same thing: Rec and club coaches don't always have this developmental perspective.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Easy on DC Express--like many teams missing key players for football and now hoop. They did show up well in last game beating LI Express by several. This team will be very good when all the pieces are in place.

Express North. Not LI Express.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 06:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores for the golden standard?
.

How did crabs and api do at this event did not seem like much competition
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 06:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks had three good games but dropped a tough one versus the LI Express Chan by a goal. Fall ball is about evaluating players and experimenting as a coaching staff especially in a play day format (no playoffs or championships). Many kids are coming off of fall sports and may already be involved in winter sports so these fall tournaments are more for brushing off cobwebs and evaluating where kids are athletically versus winning every game. Every high school and college coach will tell you the same thing: Rec and club coaches don't always have this developmental perspective.


If you want to evaluate players and experiment, call up some of the local teams and play each other. It's a lot cheaper and more flexible than paying a ton of money and traveling all over the place to a big event only to play a couple random teams. If you are going to bring all these teams together from all across the county, have a playoff.

I get that you may not have you best kids available and playing at their best, but most of the summer teams change their line ups week to week also, but they still have playoffs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 08:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks had three good games but dropped a tough one versus the LI Express Chan by a goal. Fall ball is about evaluating players and experimenting as a coaching staff especially in a play day format (no playoffs or championships). Many kids are coming off of fall sports and may already be involved in winter sports so these fall tournaments are more for brushing off cobwebs and evaluating where kids are athletically versus winning every game. Every high school and college coach will tell you the same thing: Rec and club coaches don't always have this developmental perspective.


If you want to evaluate players and experiment, call up some of the local teams and play each other. It's a lot cheaper and more flexible than paying a ton of money and traveling all over the place to a big event only to play a couple random teams. If you are going to bring all these teams together from all across the county, have a playoff.

I get that you may not have you best kids available and playing at their best, but most of the summer teams change their line ups week to week also, but they still have playoffs.

I think you are really missing the point of why these events are created. Not that long ago 2022 class (Freshman) would be in the thick of recruiting. As it stands they are just getting started. As they boys move forward, most event are there for coaches to evaluate players who are already on the radar through recommendations, emails, showcases, camps...Have your son start emailing coaches and let them know the schedule. The larger the event and more teams = more coaches will attend to see more players. At this level and moving forward, winning t-shirts and bragging rights just is not as important as it was in middle school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 09:20 PM
Don't disagree with your logic or rationale but you've missed the crux of the tournament decision making process. The venue choice is driven by club owners' economics. The cabal fully understands higher annual club fees equals a higher cut off off the top. How can I charge my clientele a high annual fee if I'm setting up inexpensive scrimmages at convenient times and locations with local opponents? If you truly believe the market is free of collusion, I have some swamp land in FL I would like to sell to you. God knows, every beneficiary of the current state of affairs (owners and club coaches) will get on this forum to deny this less than pure motivation but alas its true.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 09:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks had three good games but dropped a tough one versus the LI Express Chan by a goal. Fall ball is about evaluating players and experimenting as a coaching staff especially in a play day format (no playoffs or championships). Many kids are coming off of fall sports and may already be involved in winter sports so these fall tournaments are more for brushing off cobwebs and evaluating where kids are athletically versus winning every game. Every high school and college coach will tell you the same thing: Rec and club coaches don't always have this developmental perspective.


If you want to evaluate players and experiment, call up some of the local teams and play each other. It's a lot cheaper and more flexible than paying a ton of money and traveling all over the place to a big event only to play a couple random teams. If you are going to bring all these teams together from all across the county, have a playoff.

I get that you may not have you best kids available and playing at their best, but most of the summer teams change their line ups week to week also, but they still have playoffs.

I think you are really missing the point of why these events are created. Not that long ago 2022 class (Freshman) would be in the thick of recruiting. As it stands they are just getting started. As they boys move forward, most event are there for coaches to evaluate players who are already on the radar through recommendations, emails, showcases, camps...Have your son start emailing coaches and let them know the schedule. The larger the event and more teams = more coaches will attend to see more players. At this level and moving forward, winning t-shirts and bragging rights just is not as important as it was in middle school.


Ok, if 3 of the top 6 2022 programs nationally were playing last Sunday in DE and there are zero D1 coaches or assistants watching them was this A) a mirage, B) a failure by the boys to adequately market themselves or C) the D1 coaches aren't really interested in the 2022s yet unless they're actually getting paid to watch /"coach".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/12/18 10:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks had three good games but dropped a tough one versus the LI Express Chan by a goal. Fall ball is about evaluating players and experimenting as a coaching staff especially in a play day format (no playoffs or championships). Many kids are coming off of fall sports and may already be involved in winter sports so these fall tournaments are more for brushing off cobwebs and evaluating where kids are athletically versus winning every game. Every high school and college coach will tell you the same thing: Rec and club coaches don't always have this developmental perspective.


If you want to evaluate players and experiment, call up some of the local teams and play each other. It's a lot cheaper and more flexible than paying a ton of money and traveling all over the place to a big event only to play a couple random teams. If you are going to bring all these teams together from all across the county, have a playoff.

I get that you may not have you best kids available and playing at their best, but most of the summer teams change their line ups week to week also, but they still have playoffs.

I think you are really missing the point of why these events are created. Not that long ago 2022 class (Freshman) would be in the thick of recruiting. As it stands they are just getting started. As they boys move forward, most event are there for coaches to evaluate players who are already on the radar through recommendations, emails, showcases, camps...Have your son start emailing coaches and let them know the schedule. The larger the event and more teams = more coaches will attend to see more players. At this level and moving forward, winning t-shirts and bragging rights just is not as important as it was in middle school.

Except that coaches are not evaluating or even interested in 2022s at this point. How many coaches did you see watching any of the 2022 games on Sunday at NALFI? Right, so why no playoffs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/13/18 12:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks had three good games but dropped a tough one versus the LI Express Chan by a goal. Fall ball is about evaluating players and experimenting as a coaching staff especially in a play day format (no playoffs or championships). Many kids are coming off of fall sports and may already be involved in winter sports so these fall tournaments are more for brushing off cobwebs and evaluating where kids are athletically versus winning every game. Every high school and college coach will tell you the same thing: Rec and club coaches don't always have this developmental perspective.


If you want to evaluate players and experiment, call up some of the local teams and play each other. It's a lot cheaper and more flexible than paying a ton of money and traveling all over the place to a big event only to play a couple random teams. If you are going to bring all these teams together from all across the county, have a playoff.

I get that you may not have you best kids available and playing at their best, but most of the summer teams change their line ups week to week also, but they still have playoffs.

I think you are really missing the point of why these events are created. Not that long ago 2022 class (Freshman) would be in the thick of recruiting. As it stands they are just getting started. As they boys move forward, most event are there for coaches to evaluate players who are already on the radar through recommendations, emails, showcases, camps...Have your son start emailing coaches and let them know the schedule. The larger the event and more teams = more coaches will attend to see more players. At this level and moving forward, winning t-shirts and bragging rights just is not as important as it was in middle school.

Except that coaches are not evaluating or even interested in 2022s at this point. How many coaches did you see watching any of the 2022 games on Sunday at NALFI? Right, so why no playoffs?


So if playoffs then Hawks don’t make it knock out in pool play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/13/18 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks had three good games but dropped a tough one versus the LI Express Chan by a goal. Fall ball is about evaluating players and experimenting as a coaching staff especially in a play day format (no playoffs or championships). Many kids are coming off of fall sports and may already be involved in winter sports so these fall tournaments are more for brushing off cobwebs and evaluating where kids are athletically versus winning every game. Every high school and college coach will tell you the same thing: Rec and club coaches don't always have this developmental perspective.


If you want to evaluate players and experiment, call up some of the local teams and play each other. It's a lot cheaper and more flexible than paying a ton of money and traveling all over the place to a big event only to play a couple random teams. If you are going to bring all these teams together from all across the county, have a playoff.

I get that you may not have you best kids available and playing at their best, but most of the summer teams change their line ups week to week also, but they still have playoffs.

I think you are really missing the point of why these events are created. Not that long ago 2022 class (Freshman) would be in the thick of recruiting. As it stands they are just getting started. As they boys move forward, most event are there for coaches to evaluate players who are already on the radar through recommendations, emails, showcases, camps...Have your son start emailing coaches and let them know the schedule. The larger the event and more teams = more coaches will attend to see more players. At this level and moving forward, winning t-shirts and bragging rights just is not as important as it was in middle school.

Except that coaches are not evaluating or even interested in 2022s at this point. How many coaches did you see watching any of the 2022 games on Sunday at NALFI? Right, so why no playoffs?


So if playoffs then Hawks don’t make it knock out in pool play.

If playoffs, they probably spread the top teams around instead of stacking one pool.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/13/18 03:06 PM
Do the Maryland privates hold lacrosse tryouts in the fall? I noticed most of the Hawks players had already been issued their high school helmets.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/13/18 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks had three good games but dropped a tough one versus the LI Express Chan by a goal. Fall ball is about evaluating players and experimenting as a coaching staff especially in a play day format (no playoffs or championships). Many kids are coming off of fall sports and may already be involved in winter sports so these fall tournaments are more for brushing off cobwebs and evaluating where kids are athletically versus winning every game. Every high school and college coach will tell you the same thing: Rec and club coaches don't always have this developmental perspective.


I guess you went 0-3
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/13/18 06:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do the Maryland privates hold lacrosse tryouts in the fall? I noticed most of the Hawks players had already been issued their high school helmets.


Private you pay the tuition you make the team. Only cuts after sophomore year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/13/18 09:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do the Maryland privates hold lacrosse tryouts in the fall? I noticed most of the Hawks players had already been issued their high school helmets.


Private you pay the tuition you make the team. Only cuts after sophomore year.


At some schools maybe. Not at all. The better MIAA A Conference teams with lots of kids trying out will still occasionally cut kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/13/18 09:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do the Maryland privates hold lacrosse tryouts in the fall? I noticed most of the Hawks players had already been issued their high school helmets.


Private you pay the tuition you make the team. Only cuts after sophomore year.


At some schools maybe. Not at all. The better MIAA A Conference teams with lots of kids trying out will still occasionally cut kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks had three good games but dropped a tough one versus the LI Express Chan by a goal. Fall ball is about evaluating players and experimenting as a coaching staff especially in a play day format (no playoffs or championships). Many kids are coming off of fall sports and may already be involved in winter sports so these fall tournaments are more for brushing off cobwebs and evaluating where kids are athletically versus winning every game. Every high school and college coach will tell you the same thing: Rec and club coaches don't always have this developmental perspective.


I guess you went 0-3


Wishful thinking. Overall a good tournament with lots of positives. Its all about player development at this stage. Most if not all of these kids will be playing varsity or JV in the spring. Expect the boys to improve a ton in the Spring due to tougher more athletic and physical competition, strong position coaching and practice/games 6 days per week.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/16/18 04:29 AM
Not looking good for this weekend on the east coast. Grass fields will be swamped.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/16/18 11:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks had three good games but dropped a tough one versus the LI Express Chan by a goal. Fall ball is about evaluating players and experimenting as a coaching staff especially in a play day format (no playoffs or championships). Many kids are coming off of fall sports and may already be involved in winter sports so these fall tournaments are more for brushing off cobwebs and evaluating where kids are athletically versus winning every game. Every high school and college coach will tell you the same thing: Rec and club coaches don't always have this developmental perspective.


I guess you went 0-3


Exactly , more likely not competitive either !!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/16/18 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not looking good for this weekend on the east coast. Grass fields will be swamped.


What 2022 tournaments are being played? Most the good players will be playing for their HS at the NHSLS which is all on turf.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/16/18 04:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not looking good for this weekend on the east coast. Grass fields will be swamped.


What 2022 tournaments are being played? Most the good players will be playing for their HS at the NHSLS which is all on turf.


When you add these Showcase and NHSLS tournaments on top of the already exorbitantly priced annual club fees you're in the hole $3-4k per year. All for a potential partial scholarship to college. Seems like a bad ROI but I guess if its disposable income its ok. The sport is largely pricing out the middle class. Fine for the club owners but not so good for the athleticism of the sport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/16/18 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not looking good for this weekend on the east coast. Grass fields will be swamped.


What 2022 tournaments are being played? Most the good players will be playing for their HS at the NHSLS which is all on turf.


When you add these Showcase and NHSLS tournaments on top of the already exorbitantly priced annual club fees you're in the hole $3-4k per year. All for a potential partial scholarship to college. Seems like a bad ROI but I guess if its disposable income its ok. The sport is largely pricing out the middle class. Fine for the club owners but not so good for the athleticism of the sport.

Did you just realize Lacrosse is a rich white boy sport? The NHSLS is filled with Elite top money private schools. If you are paying in excess of 18K for school what is 3 to 4K for lacrosse for a year? Hockey is tons and tons of money because of the Ice time and travel the game requires. Do they get blamed for pricing out the poor kids. The 3D Harlem team is the best example of giving poor kids a shot at this game. But I would like to add if a 6' 3" kid who runs a 4.4 40 shows up to play for his public high school team and does everything the school provides for Free. He will only need to save up enough money to pay for one showcase and he will get a college roster spot for sure. How many travel teams and showcases does a 6' 9" basketball player need to play for? I think if the public school coaches can talk the Public school RB,WRs and QB into picking up a stick the game will have better athletes. But as long as the D1 lacrosse teams only 12.5 full rides worth to give away the sport will not get the best of the best athletes. A D2 football team has 45 Full rides to give. That is more then 3 times a D1 lacrosse team. If they just got D1 lacrosse to up the number to 25 full rides worth the big strong and fast would flock to the game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/16/18 05:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not looking good for this weekend on the east coast. Grass fields will be swamped.


What 2022 tournaments are being played? Most the good players will be playing for their HS at the NHSLS which is all on turf.


When you add these Showcase and NHSLS tournaments on top of the already exorbitantly priced annual club fees you're in the hole $3-4k per year. All for a potential partial scholarship to college. Seems like a bad ROI but I guess if its disposable income its ok. The sport is largely pricing out the middle class. Fine for the club owners but not so good for the athleticism of the sport.

Did you just realize Lacrosse is a rich white boy sport? The NHSLS is filled with Elite top money private schools. If you are paying in excess of 18K for school what is 3 to 4K for lacrosse for a year? Hockey is tons and tons of money because of the Ice time and travel the game requires. Do they get blamed for pricing out the poor kids. The 3D Harlem team is the best example of giving poor kids a shot at this game. But I would like to add if a 6' 3" kid who runs a 4.4 40 shows up to play for his public high school team and does everything the school provides for Free. He will only need to save up enough money to pay for one showcase and he will get a college roster spot for sure. How many travel teams and showcases does a 6' 9" basketball player need to play for? I think if the public school coaches can talk the Public school RB,WRs and QB into picking up a stick the game will have better athletes. But as long as the D1 lacrosse teams only 12.5 full rides worth to give away the sport will not get the best of the best athletes. A D2 football team has 45 Full rides to give. That is more then 3 times a D1 lacrosse team. If they just got D1 lacrosse to up the number to 25 full rides worth the big strong and fast would flock to the game.


what a bunch of nonsense. Friday happy hour must have started early. Lay off the bottle
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/16/18 05:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not looking good for this weekend on the east coast. Grass fields will be swamped.


What 2022 tournaments are being played? Most the good players will be playing for their HS at the NHSLS which is all on turf.


When you add these Showcase and NHSLS tournaments on top of the already exorbitantly priced annual club fees you're in the hole $3-4k per year. All for a potential partial scholarship to college. Seems like a bad ROI but I guess if its disposable income its ok. The sport is largely pricing out the middle class. Fine for the club owners but not so good for the athleticism of the sport.

Did you just realize Lacrosse is a rich white boy sport? The NHSLS is filled with Elite top money private schools. If you are paying in excess of 18K for school what is 3 to 4K for lacrosse for a year? Hockey is tons and tons of money because of the Ice time and travel the game requires. Do they get blamed for pricing out the poor kids. The 3D Harlem team is the best example of giving poor kids a shot at this game. But I would like to add if a 6' 3" kid who runs a 4.4 40 shows up to play for his public high school team and does everything the school provides for Free. He will only need to save up enough money to pay for one showcase and he will get a college roster spot for sure. How many travel teams and showcases does a 6' 9" basketball player need to play for? I think if the public school coaches can talk the Public school RB,WRs and QB into picking up a stick the game will have better athletes. But as long as the D1 lacrosse teams only 12.5 full rides worth to give away the sport will not get the best of the best athletes. A D2 football team has 45 Full rides to give. That is more then 3 times a D1 lacrosse team. If they just got D1 lacrosse to up the number to 25 full rides worth the big strong and fast would flock to the game.


what a bunch of nonsense. Friday happy hour must have started early. Lay off the bottle

I agree this is lots of random thoughts but please tell me which thought is nonsense. I just looked at the lineup for NHSLS its 85% private schools.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/16/18 08:11 PM
The NXT Boys Philly Invitational Showcase 2018 Line-up this weekend is really tough. I hope the best teams get a chance to play each other....

2way
3d NE
Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite
Blue Star
Dukes
Evolve CanAm2022
Fighting Clams
FLG
Iron Horse
Koopers
NJ Riot Chaos
NXT
PA Roughriders
Patriot
Predators
Seattle Starz
SouthShore
STEPS
Sweetlax Upstate
Team 91 MD
Tri State
TRUE
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/16/18 08:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The NXT Boys Philly Invitational Showcase 2018 Line-up this weekend is really tough. I hope the best teams get a chance to play each other....

2way
3d NE
Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite
Blue Star
Dukes
Evolve CanAm2022
Fighting Clams
FLG
Iron Horse
Koopers
NJ Riot Chaos
NXT
PA Roughriders
Patriot
Predators
Seattle Starz
SouthShore
STEPS
Sweetlax Upstate
Team 91 MD
Tri State
TRUE



Really tough? Other than Hawks and 91MD the rest of them are all B and C teams. 91MD may be missing kids playing in the NHSLS so not sure what they will look like.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/16/18 08:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not looking good for this weekend on the east coast. Grass fields will be swamped.


What 2022 tournaments are being played? Most the good players will be playing for their HS at the NHSLS which is all on turf.


When you add these Showcase and NHSLS tournaments on top of the already exorbitantly priced annual club fees you're in the hole $3-4k per year. All for a potential partial scholarship to college. Seems like a bad ROI but I guess if its disposable income its ok. The sport is largely pricing out the middle class. Fine for the club owners but not so good for the athleticism of the sport.

Did you just realize Lacrosse is a rich white boy sport? The NHSLS is filled with Elite top money private schools. If you are paying in excess of 18K for school what is 3 to 4K for lacrosse for a year? Hockey is tons and tons of money because of the Ice time and travel the game requires. Do they get blamed for pricing out the poor kids. The 3D Harlem team is the best example of giving poor kids a shot at this game. But I would like to add if a 6' 3" kid who runs a 4.4 40 shows up to play for his public high school team and does everything the school provides for Free. He will only need to save up enough money to pay for one showcase and he will get a college roster spot for sure. How many travel teams and showcases does a 6' 9" basketball player need to play for? I think if the public school coaches can talk the Public school RB,WRs and QB into picking up a stick the game will have better athletes. But as long as the D1 lacrosse teams only 12.5 full rides worth to give away the sport will not get the best of the best athletes. A D2 football team has 45 Full rides to give. That is more then 3 times a D1 lacrosse team. If they just got D1 lacrosse to up the number to 25 full rides worth the big strong and fast would flock to the game.


what a bunch of nonsense. Friday happy hour must have started early. Lay off the bottle

I agree this is lots of random thoughts but please tell me which thought is nonsense. I just looked at the lineup for NHSLS its 85% private schools.


The price to pay in the NHSLS is $105 per kid. Public schools could have played in it if they wanted to. Stop complaining.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/16/18 09:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not looking good for this weekend on the east coast. Grass fields will be swamped.


What 2022 tournaments are being played? Most the good players will be playing for their HS at the NHSLS which is all on turf.


When you add these Showcase and NHSLS tournaments on top of the already exorbitantly priced annual club fees you're in the hole $3-4k per year. All for a potential partial scholarship to college. Seems like a bad ROI but I guess if its disposable income its ok. The sport is largely pricing out the middle class. Fine for the club owners but not so good for the athleticism of the sport.

Did you just realize Lacrosse is a rich white boy sport? The NHSLS is filled with Elite top money private schools. If you are paying in excess of 18K for school what is 3 to 4K for lacrosse for a year? Hockey is tons and tons of money because of the Ice time and travel the game requires. Do they get blamed for pricing out the poor kids. The 3D Harlem team is the best example of giving poor kids a shot at this game. But I would like to add if a 6' 3" kid who runs a 4.4 40 shows up to play for his public high school team and does everything the school provides for Free. He will only need to save up enough money to pay for one showcase and he will get a college roster spot for sure. How many travel teams and showcases does a 6' 9" basketball player need to play for? I think if the public school coaches can talk the Public school RB,WRs and QB into picking up a stick the game will have better athletes. But as long as the D1 lacrosse teams only 12.5 full rides worth to give away the sport will not get the best of the best athletes. A D2 football team has 45 Full rides to give. That is more then 3 times a D1 lacrosse team. If they just got D1 lacrosse to up the number to 25 full rides worth the big strong and fast would flock to the game.


what a bunch of nonsense. Friday happy hour must have started early. Lay off the bottle


Nope..No nonsense at all in Maryland. Now not to pile on but of course we dont need more scholarships which means more players. Right now this is one of the main sports for 5 ft 8 to 6-2 white guy to excel at who is average but has been taught skills since First grade. Majority could not make any college Football, BB , Hockey or Baseball team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/18/18 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


The price to pay in the NHSLS is $105 per kid. Public schools could have played in it if they wanted to. Stop complaining.

Public school coaches have to skirt the rules to get a team together for these things. Coaches and assistants are not permitted to coach in any capacity outside of the season which starts March 1. You do have the Northerns, Tides and Hereford Zone teams among others that manage to get organized without any of their coaches being involved, but it isn’t easy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/18/18 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


The price to pay in the NHSLS is $105 per kid. Public schools could have played in it if they wanted to. Stop complaining.

Public school coaches have to skirt the rules to get a team together for these things. Coaches and assistants are not permitted to coach in any capacity outside of the season which starts March 1. You do have the Northerns, Tides and Hereford Zone teams among others that manage to get organized without any of their coaches being involved, but it isn’t easy.


As someone who had to organize (and front the money) for a girls indoor lacrosse Winter league team from a public High School, this is absolutely on point. The coaches are very reluctant to even attend offseason games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/18/18 11:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The NXT Boys Philly Invitational Showcase 2018 Line-up this weekend is really tough. I hope the best teams get a chance to play each other....

2way
3d NE
Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite
Blue Star
Dukes
Evolve CanAm2022
Fighting Clams
FLG
Iron Horse
Koopers
NJ Riot Chaos
NXT
PA Roughriders
Patriot
Predators
Seattle Starz
SouthShore
STEPS
Sweetlax Upstate
Team 91 MD
Tri State
TRUE



Really tough? Other than Hawks and 91MD the rest of them are all B and C teams. 91MD may be missing kids playing in the NHSLS so not sure what they will look like.


3-0 teams : Seattle Starz, Annapolis Hawks, BBL, T91MD, and 3dNE

DMV teams did well. Koopers went 1-2. Did 91MD bring in the Guests?

Dukes went 1-1-1 - must not have had their best line up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/19/18 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The NXT Boys Philly Invitational Showcase 2018 Line-up this weekend is really tough. I hope the best teams get a chance to play each other....

2way
3d NE
Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite
Blue Star
Dukes
Evolve CanAm2022
Fighting Clams
FLG
Iron Horse
Koopers
NJ Riot Chaos
NXT
PA Roughriders
Patriot
Predators
Seattle Starz
SouthShore
STEPS
Sweetlax Upstate
Team 91 MD
Tri State
TRUE



Really tough? Other than Hawks and 91MD the rest of them are all B and C teams. 91MD may be missing kids playing in the NHSLS so not sure what they will look like.


3-0 teams : Seattle Starz, Annapolis Hawks, BBL, T91MD, and 3dNE

DMV teams did well. Koopers went 1-2. Did 91MD bring in the Guests?

Dukes went 1-1-1 - must not have had their best line up.


A lot of East Coast clubs had kids missing at NHSLS. Everyone who regularly brings in boys from other affiliated teams did so. Lots of kids participated in the NXT Showcase whose 2022 all star game was the best collection of talent from this year I've seen on one field to date. Clearly some of the better clubs/players weren't there but the collection of talent was strong.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/19/18 11:00 PM
With fall lax over for most teams any surprises of teams improving or teams dropping down in talent?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/20/18 02:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With fall lax over for most teams any surprises of teams improving or teams dropping down in talent?



At this point all the Elite teams are very good and can beat each other on any given day. It should be less about team wins and more about individuals getting better . If that happens then the team will be better. If that does not happen then a change is needed. Some of these Coaches for 2022 are bit over the top. Team wins are good for the Club program and get kids into final games of tournaments. College coaches just don't watch the Championships, they are on sidelines for the 1st game on thru. The age has 1 more year to individually get better to help themselves and their team and continue thru to 11th and 12th grades.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/20/18 01:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With fall lax over for most teams any surprises of teams improving or teams dropping down in talent?



At this point all the Elite teams are very good and can beat each other on any given day. It should be less about team wins and more about individuals getting better . If that happens then the team will be better. If that does not happen then a change is needed. Some of these Coaches for 2022 are bit over the top. Team wins are good for the Club program and get kids into final games of tournaments. College coaches just don't watch the Championships, they are on sidelines for the 1st game on thru. The age has 1 more year to individually get better to help themselves and their team and continue thru to 11th and 12th grades.


In fact many coaches aren't around for playoff games because they are typically on sunday afternoon's and they are headed to the airport by then.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/20/18 01:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With fall lax over for most teams any surprises of teams improving or teams dropping down in talent?



At this point all the Elite teams are very good and can beat each other on any given day. It should be less about team wins and more about individuals getting better . If that happens then the team will be better. If that does not happen then a change is needed. Some of these Coaches for 2022 are bit over the top. Team wins are good for the Club program and get kids into final games of tournaments. College coaches just don't watch the Championships, they are on sidelines for the 1st game on thru. The age has 1 more year to individually get better to help themselves and their team and continue thru to 11th and 12th grades.

Yes very good point. Sorry dads no more T-shirts and free socks. Its all about getting that college roster spot from this day on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/20/18 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With fall lax over for most teams any surprises of teams improving or teams dropping down in talent?



At this point all the Elite teams are very good and can beat each other on any given day. It should be less about team wins and more about individuals getting better . If that happens then the team will be better. If that does not happen then a change is needed. Some of these Coaches for 2022 are bit over the top. Team wins are good for the Club program and get kids into final games of tournaments. College coaches just don't watch the Championships, they are on sidelines for the 1st game on thru. The age has 1 more year to individually get better to help themselves and their team and continue thru to 11th and 12th grades.

Yes very good point. Sorry dads no more T-shirts and free socks. Its all about getting that college roster spot from this day on.

Which is why you'll see more player movement than in years past. If a kid really wants to play in college, it isn't enough to get reps against 1st stringers on a great team despite the coach telling you that's what's best. You have to be able to put something on video or get on the field when coaches are watching. Sophomore year is the big year now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/20/18 03:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With fall lax over for most teams any surprises of teams improving or teams dropping down in talent?



At this point all the Elite teams are very good and can beat each other on any given day. It should be less about team wins and more about individuals getting better . If that happens then the team will be better. If that does not happen then a change is needed. Some of these Coaches for 2022 are bit over the top. Team wins are good for the Club program and get kids into final games of tournaments. College coaches just don't watch the Championships, they are on sidelines for the 1st game on thru. The age has 1 more year to individually get better to help themselves and their team and continue thru to 11th and 12th grades.

Yes very good point. Sorry dads no more T-shirts and free socks. Its all about getting that college roster spot from this day on.

Which is why you'll see more player movement than in years past. If a kid really wants to play in college, it isn't enough to get reps against 1st stringers on a great team despite the coach telling you that's what's best. You have to be able to put something on video or get on the field when coaches are watching. Sophomore year is the big year now.


You're right but this isn't anything new, has been going on for 30 plus years. Parents/kids take a look at the depth chart and make decisions. If you're a very good player but are competing against the coach's son for a starting spot, many transfer because they feel the playing field isn't level, If the coach has recruited over you or there's too many quality players at your position (it happens in every sport), families explore transferring. In some conferences you can't transfer once you're on the varsity without sitting out a year or moving a long distance. All of the top programs have kids transfer in and out all almost every year. And yes, you will see more player movement because kids aren't committed early and need to get playing time to get recruited.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/20/18 05:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With fall lax over for most teams any surprises of teams improving or teams dropping down in talent?



At this point all the Elite teams are very good and can beat each other on any given day. It should be less about team wins and more about individuals getting better . If that happens then the team will be better. If that does not happen then a change is needed. Some of these Coaches for 2022 are bit over the top. Team wins are good for the Club program and get kids into final games of tournaments. College coaches just don't watch the Championships, they are on sidelines for the 1st game on thru. The age has 1 more year to individually get better to help themselves and their team and continue thru to 11th and 12th grades.

Yes very good point. Sorry dads no more T-shirts and free socks. Its all about getting that college roster spot from this day on.

Which is why you'll see more player movement than in years past. If a kid really wants to play in college, it isn't enough to get reps against 1st stringers on a great team despite the coach telling you that's what's best. You have to be able to put something on video or get on the field when coaches are watching. Sophomore year is the big year now.


You're right but this isn't anything new, has been going on for 30 plus years. Parents/kids take a look at the depth chart and make decisions. If you're a very good player but are competing against the coach's son for a starting spot, many transfer because they feel the playing field isn't level, If the coach has recruited over you or there's too many quality players at your position (it happens in every sport), families explore transferring. In some conferences you can't transfer once you're on the varsity without sitting out a year or moving a long distance. All of the top programs have kids transfer in and out all almost every year. And yes, you will see more player movement because kids aren't committed early and need to get playing time to get recruited.


I like overall the Sept. 1st Jr. year rule. But this rule will drive up and increase the pressure on us parents to have our sons in the right school and on the correct travel team their Fresh and Sophomore year. We will all need to be guessing is my son a D1 kid is he D3 can he play college lacrosse. The early recruiting allowed the parents to know my little Johnny is not top D1.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/21/18 01:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With fall lax over for most teams any surprises of teams improving or teams dropping down in talent?



At this point all the Elite teams are very good and can beat each other on any given day. It should be less about team wins and more about individuals getting better . If that happens then the team will be better. If that does not happen then a change is needed. Some of these Coaches for 2022 are bit over the top. Team wins are good for the Club program and get kids into final games of tournaments. College coaches just don't watch the Championships, they are on sidelines for the 1st game on thru. The age has 1 more year to individually get better to help themselves and their team and continue thru to 11th and 12th grades.

Yes very good point. Sorry dads no more T-shirts and free socks. Its all about getting that college roster spot from this day on.


What? You're crazy - Lots of T-Shirts and socks. They just have high school names on them now. There are tons of college spots also. Most kids can walk-on to the majority of D3 teams. This train's never going to stop.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/21/18 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which is why you'll see more player movement than in years past. If a kid really wants to play in college, it isn't enough to get reps against 1st stringers on a great team despite the coach telling you that's what's best. You have to be able to put something on video or get on the field when coaches are watching. Sophomore year is the big year now.



I like overall the Sept. 1st Jr. year rule. But this rule will drive up and increase the pressure on us parents to have our sons in the right school and on the correct travel team their Fresh and Sophomore year. We will all need to be guessing is my son a D1 kid is he D3 can he play college lacrosse. The early recruiting allowed the parents to know my little Johnny is not top D1.

What a joke. Get a life.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/21/18 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which is why you'll see more player movement than in years past. If a kid really wants to play in college, it isn't enough to get reps against 1st stringers on a great team despite the coach telling you that's what's best. You have to be able to put something on video or get on the field when coaches are watching. Sophomore year is the big year now.



I like overall the Sept. 1st Jr. year rule. But this rule will drive up and increase the pressure on us parents to have our sons in the right school and on the correct travel team their Fresh and Sophomore year. We will all need to be guessing is my son a D1 kid is he D3 can he play college lacrosse. The early recruiting allowed the parents to know my little Johnny is not top D1.

What a joke. Get a life.

So if you are so smart please explain what about my commit is such a Joke. I am guessing you like the new rule as do I. But every thing has good and bad. Do you think the rule is 100% better for everything and everyone? Is it correct that the new rule shortens the real recruiting process? How does a parent know their son is D1, D2 or D3 before Sept 1st Jr. Year? You have no idea what level and what schools like/ have interest in your son before this date now is this correct? Please tell me how many 2020 kids have Verbals as of today? So if you have a 2020 son and he has received no emails and no phone calls from D1 schools you have 12 months from today to really search, contact, and find a team that wants you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/21/18 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which is why you'll see more player movement than in years past. If a kid really wants to play in college, it isn't enough to get reps against 1st stringers on a great team despite the coach telling you that's what's best. You have to be able to put something on video or get on the field when coaches are watching. Sophomore year is the big year now.



I like overall the Sept. 1st Jr. year rule. But this rule will drive up and increase the pressure on us parents to have our sons in the right school and on the correct travel team their Fresh and Sophomore year. We will all need to be guessing is my son a D1 kid is he D3 can he play college lacrosse. The early recruiting allowed the parents to know my little Johnny is not top D1.

What a joke. Get a life.

So if you are so smart please explain what about my commit is such a Joke. I am guessing you like the new rule as do I. But every thing has good and bad. Do you think the rule is 100% better for everything and everyone? Is it correct that the new rule shortens the real recruiting process? How does a parent know their son is D1, D2 or D3 before Sept 1st Jr. Year? You have no idea what level and what schools like/ have interest in your son before this date now is this correct? Please tell me how many 2020 kids have Verbals as of today? So if you have a 2020 son and he has received no emails and no phone calls from D1 schools you have 12 months from today to really search, contact, and find a team that wants you.

You're way too involved. Pressure on us parents? Relax Francis.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/21/18 05:24 PM
Its really simple, if your kid peaked in 8th grade, early recruiting was great for you. Lots of midgets and middle school AAs on top D1 rosters. Otherwise, the late recruiting is better for all. Kids will get committed after going through puberty and have a better handle on whether they're truly good at or interest in lacrosse. Don't discount my second comment because D1 and top level D3 lacrosse is only for the zealots: those lacking commitment ring the bell..... Later recruiting is better for coaches because kids are more developed and you can honestly tell a kid where they're projected to be. I would like the rosters cut down to 35 at all levels as well. It would trim expenses and cut down on the amount of kids not playing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/21/18 11:13 PM
The Madlax 2022 team has collapsed. Several will be playing for different teams this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/22/18 02:17 AM
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/22/18 03:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Madlax 2022 team has collapsed. Several will be playing for different teams this summer.

Fake news
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/22/18 04:02 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former Madlax team members
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/22/18 01:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former Madlax team members

Not true. No one is leaving.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/22/18 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Madlax 2022 team has collapsed. Several will be playing for different teams this summer.


Saw them play this fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 03:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former Madlax team members

Black wolf plays 2 tournaments during the summer?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 01:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former Madlax team members

Black wolf plays 2 tournaments during the summer?

Kids have left to play for Blackwolf and other teams forever. Madlax will be playing in the best or close to the best tournaments ever weekend for the high school teams. Players will come the always do. The owner has his ways of finding players for his top teams in the high school years. If he really needs a position filled on a high school Cap team it will be filled with a good to top player. If he has to pull from NC he will get it done. always has always will. Sorry Madlax haters this train will keep rolling no matter how hard you want it to stop. 20 years and still getting 15 kids a year to D1 on Avg.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 03:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.


If you are a good player, teams will take you. LOL. You don't need a tryout.

I am not the poster who posted that, but my son heard the same thing from several on the team who are friends with him. The guy screaming Fake News isbin for a shock later.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former Madlax team members

MORE FACTUALLY CORRECT REWRITE

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former EVERGREEN team members.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 04:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former Madlax team members

MORE FACTUALLY CORRECT REWRITE

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former EVERGREEN team members.

3d folded 22 + Madlax + Evergreen = Blackwolf
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.


If you are a good player, teams will take you. LOL. You don't need a tryout.

I am not the poster who posted that, but my son heard the same thing from several on the team who are friends with him. The guy screaming Fake News isbin for a shock later.


Your comment about if your a good player teams will take you is not necessarily true. I've seen kids who have made the UA Senior team get rebuffed (albeit politely) because rosters were full. Every situation is different.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.


If you are a good player, teams will take you. LOL. You don't need a tryout.

I am not the poster who posted that, but my son heard the same thing from several on the team who are friends with him. The guy screaming Fake News isbin for a shock later.

It won’t be a shock to those close to the team. There has been discontent brewing there for the past two years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 06:00 PM
Based on what I have seen in the Fall, Team91MD (assuming they have the imports) is the best 2022 club based out of the MidAtlantic region. A close second is the 2022 Crabs team who are greatly improved with their PA based FOGO. 2022 RRs have fallen back as their best offensive player switched to the Crabs. The Annapolis (some folks call them the Spalding Hawks) Hawks are still in the mix but have come up a little short in most of their big summer tournaments and fall games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 06:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former Madlax team members

MORE FACTUALLY CORRECT REWRITE

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former EVERGREEN team members.

3d folded 22 + Madlax + Evergreen = Blackwolf

Yup, Trig doesn’t get the talent he used to get. BW is on the decline.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Based on what I have seen in the Fall, Team91MD (assuming they have the imports) is the best 2022 club based out of the MidAtlantic region. A close second is the 2022 Crabs team who are greatly improved with their PA based FOGO. 2022 RRs have fallen back as their best offensive player switched to the Crabs. The Annapolis (some folks call them the Spalding Hawks) Hawks are still in the mix but have come up a little short in most of their big summer tournaments and fall games.


You are clueless
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 07:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Based on what I have seen in the Fall, Team91MD (assuming they have the imports) is the best 2022 club based out of the MidAtlantic region. A close second is the 2022 Crabs team who are greatly improved with their PA based FOGO. 2022 RRs have fallen back as their best offensive player switched to the Crabs. The Annapolis (some folks call them the Spalding Hawks) Hawks are still in the mix but have come up a little short in most of their big summer tournaments and fall games.


You are clueless


What do their summer and fall tournament records say? I'm looking at how they fared head to head or against the same competition? What am I missing? What are you basing your well thought out [ChillLaxin] on???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 07:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Based on what I have seen in the Fall, Team91MD (assuming they have the imports) is the best 2022 club based out of the MidAtlantic region. A close second is the 2022 Crabs team who are greatly improved with their PA based FOGO. 2022 RRs have fallen back as their best offensive player switched to the Crabs. The Annapolis (some folks call them the Spalding Hawks) Hawks are still in the mix but have come up a little short in most of their big summer tournaments and fall games.

Hawks, 91, RR, then the greatly improved Crabs with their PA based FOGO. Still a very competitive playday at UMD next weekend with the best lineup of teams this fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/23/18 08:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former Madlax team members

MORE FACTUALLY CORRECT REWRITE

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former EVERGREEN team members.

3d folded 22 + Madlax + Evergreen = Blackwolf

Yup, Trig doesn’t get the talent he used to get. BW is on the decline.

Truth. As well as the 2023 team which will be a bigger drop off as there will be no Madlax kids to recruit. In NOVA youth lacrosse musical chairs, Blackwolf will be left standing without seat
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/24/18 02:12 AM
Core group of players on Madlax has not changed in years and recently added the very successful coach of the 2019 Madlax team who was the best in their age group for the past 4+ years so I don't see players leaving for Blackwolf to play with former Evergreen/3D players. 22's will only get better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/24/18 04:57 PM
Get sweating it out, dad. The Madlax 22s have steadily declined relative to the competition.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/24/18 11:27 PM
The problem is the dad coaching his son is still an assistant coach. There are years of resentment of his coaching, and some have had enough. They aren't leaving for BW but other teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/26/18 05:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.


If you are a good player, teams will take you. LOL. You don't need a tryout.

I am not the poster who posted that, but my son heard the same thing from several on the team who are friends with him. The guy screaming Fake News isbin for a shock later.


If your kid was that good Madlax would be better. Sorry but your kid is not as good as you think.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/26/18 01:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The problem is the dad coaching his son is still an assistant coach. There are years of resentment of his coaching, and some have had enough. They aren't leaving for BW but other teams

Just remember the grass is not always greener on the other side parents! Madlax is a sure thing. If you are on the CAP team and playing you are taking a huge risk leaving for what you see as greener grass. Just know there will be a kid ready to take your sons spot the second he leaves. Always has been for 20 years. Look at the kids from Blackwolf who just found college homes. Some left Madlax and the kids who took there spot have also signed to play D1. Point being just stay with the Devil you know its way easier.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/26/18 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The problem is the dad coaching his son is still an assistant coach. There are years of resentment of his coaching, and some have had enough. They aren't leaving for BW but other teams

Just remember the grass is not always greener on the other side parents! Madlax is a sure thing. If you are on the CAP team and playing you are taking a huge risk leaving for what you see as greener grass. Just know there will be a kid ready to take your sons spot the second he leaves. Always has been for 20 years. Look at the kids from Blackwolf who just found college homes. Some left Madlax and the kids who took there spot have also signed to play D1. Point being just stay with the Devil you know its way easier.

Who says the choices are Madlax or Blackwolf? Plenty of kids traveling to Annapolis and Baltimore in the high school years. The commitment at this point is only a few summer practices.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/26/18 06:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.


If you are a good player, teams will take you. LOL. You don't need a tryout.

I am not the poster who posted that, but my son heard the same thing from several on the team who are friends with him. The guy screaming Fake News isbin for a shock later.


If your kid was that good Madlax would be better. Sorry but your kid is not as good as you think.


Why all the discussion regarding Madlax...an irrelevant club if I ever saw one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/26/18 08:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.


If you are a good player, teams will take you. LOL. You don't need a tryout.

I am not the poster who posted that, but my son heard the same thing from several on the team who are friends with him. The guy screaming Fake News isbin for a shock later.


If your kid was that good Madlax would be better. Sorry but your kid is not as good as you think.


Why all the discussion regarding Madlax...an irrelevant club if I ever saw one.

You are irrelevant the top player in the country from 2018 and 2019 are both Madlax players and Madlax players for 5 or more years. So they are very far from irrelevant. You can say they have a weaker year or two but to call them irrelevant shows us you are a stunad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/26/18 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.


If you are a good player, teams will take you. LOL. You don't need a tryout.

I am not the poster who posted that, but my son heard the same thing from several on the team who are friends with him. The guy screaming Fake News isbin for a shock later.


If your kid was that good Madlax would be better. Sorry but your kid is not as good as you think.


Why all the discussion regarding Madlax...an irrelevant club if I ever saw one.

You are irrelevant the top player in the country from 2018 and 2019 are both Madlax players and Madlax players for 5 or more years. So they are very far from irrelevant. You can say they have a weaker year or two but to call them irrelevant shows us you are a stunad.

You took the bait....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/26/18 11:08 PM
Terps playday is looking stacked.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/27/18 02:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The problem is the dad coaching his son is still an assistant coach. There are years of resentment of his coaching, and some have had enough. They aren't leaving for BW but other teams

Just remember the grass is not always greener on the other side parents! Madlax is a sure thing. If you are on the CAP team and playing you are taking a huge risk leaving for what you see as greener grass. Just know there will be a kid ready to take your sons spot the second he leaves. Always has been for 20 years. Look at the kids from Blackwolf who just found college homes. Some left Madlax and the kids who took there spot have also signed to play D1. Point being just stay with the Devil you know its way easier.



Goes the same way. Many families that have gone to Madlax (especially when filling spots vacated by families leaving Madlax) have been uphappy. And that's not including the people who hold their nose writing checks to Madlax.

And Madlax is no sure thing. Other clubs have similar if not greater recruiting success, Mom.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/27/18 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The problem is the dad coaching his son is still an assistant coach. There are years of resentment of his coaching, and some have had enough. They aren't leaving for BW but other teams

Just remember the grass is not always greener on the other side parents! Madlax is a sure thing. If you are on the CAP team and playing you are taking a huge risk leaving for what you see as greener grass. Just know there will be a kid ready to take your sons spot the second he leaves. Always has been for 20 years. Look at the kids from Blackwolf who just found college homes. Some left Madlax and the kids who took there spot have also signed to play D1. Point being just stay with the Devil you know its way easier.



Goes the same way. Many families that have gone to Madlax (especially when filling spots vacated by families leaving Madlax) have been uphappy. And that's not including the people who hold their nose writing checks to Madlax.

And Madlax is no sure thing. Other clubs have similar if not greater recruiting success, Mom.

Here is another little bit of news for everyone. Your son and his play is what gets him on a D1 roster. Madlax is a member of the correct club of clubs. This club gives your son the most looks (chances to look good) he could possibly get over a 4 year window of time. Your son and his grades are what gets him the D1 roster spot. So the real point is Madlax is and will be for a long time in the top club of clubs that the most coaches attend their games. If you leave Madlax just make sure you are playing for a club that plays Madlax Cap in tournaments. You will be getting basically the same about of looks. But I would argue Madlax plays the most tournaments over this 4 year window . So this would give your son more looks. So using this math it adds up to more looks at the best place to be seen. It only take 5 min or less for most kids to play well enough to get on a teams radar and then the real process starts. But logic says the more chances you put yourself out there to get that 5 min of good luck the better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/27/18 04:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terps playday is looking stacked.



Who is playing in it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/27/18 06:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terps playday is looking stacked.



Who is playing in it?


FCA Hawks RoughRiders Leading Edge BBL Express
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/27/18 07:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The problem is the dad coaching his son is still an assistant coach. There are years of resentment of his coaching, and some have had enough. They aren't leaving for BW but other teams

Just remember the grass is not always greener on the other side parents! Madlax is a sure thing. If you are on the CAP team and playing you are taking a huge risk leaving for what you see as greener grass. Just know there will be a kid ready to take your sons spot the second he leaves. Always has been for 20 years. Look at the kids from Blackwolf who just found college homes. Some left Madlax and the kids who took there spot have also signed to play D1. Point being just stay with the Devil you know its way easier.



Goes the same way. Many families that have gone to Madlax (especially when filling spots vacated by families leaving Madlax) have been uphappy. And that's not including the people who hold their nose writing checks to Madlax.

And Madlax is no sure thing. Other clubs have similar if not greater recruiting success, Mom.

Here is another little bit of news for everyone. Your son and his play is what gets him on a D1 roster. Madlax is a member of the correct club of clubs. This club gives your son the most looks (chances to look good) he could possibly get over a 4 year window of time. Your son and his grades are what gets him the D1 roster spot. So the real point is Madlax is and will be for a long time in the top club of clubs that the most coaches attend their games. If you leave Madlax just make sure you are playing for a club that plays Madlax Cap in tournaments. You will be getting basically the same about of looks. But I would argue Madlax plays the most tournaments over this 4 year window . So this would give your son more looks. So using this math it adds up to more looks at the best place to be seen. It only take 5 min or less for most kids to play well enough to get on a teams radar and then the real process starts. But logic says the more chances you put yourself out there to get that 5 min of good luck the better.


You said it best. Five minutes or less. Save your money on club dues and get a great personal position to coach your son up (individual drills, routines, techniques, film review, etc). Play in a showcase or two (get your high school coach to recommend you) and the Fall and Spring NHSLSs and get all of the targeted coaches to watch you. You will need to play to your level and let the market clear. Save your markets $1 to $2k per year in after tax earnings. This isn't a theory: its been put into practice by me and several of my friends, FYI all of our sons got scholarship money (minimum 30%) to top 20 programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/27/18 09:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

You said it best. Five minutes or less. Save your money on club dues and get a great personal position to coach your son up (individual drills, routines, techniques, film review, etc). Play in a showcase or two (get your high school coach to recommend you) and the Fall and Spring NHSLSs and get all of the targeted coaches to watch you. You will need to play to your level and let the market clear. Save your markets $1 to $2k per year in after tax earnings. This isn't a theory: its been put into practice by me and several of my friends, FYI all of our sons got scholarship money (minimum 30%) to top 20 programs.

If you're making comments like stick with the devil you know (Madlax), then this comment is probably sound advice. Believe it or not, there are a lot of kids who genuinely enjoy their club teams, coaches and experience. That $2K a year after taxes is money well spent for many if that's the case. It wouldn't take too many sessions of private coaching and showcase fees to be right back at that 2K number as well. There certainly isn't a singular path to getting recruited.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/28/18 04:42 AM
You are right here is a correction!

NOVA SPOTLIGHT - RESULTS from today's Terrapin Classic:

Madlax Capital/Evergreen 9 vs Patriots 5
Patriots 7 vs Blackwolf/Evergreen 4

Madlax Capital/Evergreen 13 vs STEPS 2
Blackwolf/Evergreen 7 vs STEPS 6

My son tells me more players from Evergreen will be moving to MadLax and Blackwolf this summer for better competition and less of these Rec/B level tournaments Evergreen attends.

Evergreen seems to do very well developing talent for the other local clubs. The players from Evergreen have been a great addition to our team. Yes, Blackwolf parent here. Great midfield and defense including some with injuries. Attack can be improved - not very impressive on the small and non-aggressive side. Summer should be interesting if we can avoid injuries.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/28/18 03:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are right here is a correction!

NOVA SPOTLIGHT - RESULTS from today's Terrapin Classic:

Madlax Capital/Evergreen 9 vs Patriots 5
Patriots 7 vs Blackwolf/Evergreen 4

Madlax Capital/Evergreen 13 vs STEPS 2
Blackwolf/Evergreen 7 vs STEPS 6

My son tells me more players from Evergreen will be moving to MadLax and Blackwolf this summer for better competition and less of these Rec/B level tournaments Evergreen attends.

Evergreen seems to do very well developing talent for the other local clubs. The players from Evergreen have been a great addition to our team. Yes, Blackwolf parent here. Great midfield and defense including some with injuries. Attack can be improved - not very impressive on the small and non-aggressive side. Summer should be interesting if we can avoid injuries.


Don't get it. The Madlax Capital team that played in the Terrapin Classic had no Evergreen players and "Madlax Capital/Evergreen" does not make sense. The BW team had/has half a dozen Evergreen players and that tall middie is the only elite player. How can Evergreen have been a "great addition" when the team did not exist prior to the fall and the Evergreen players were there on Day 1? BW is on the decline, no matter what parents of former 3d/Evergreen players think. The only common thread is the cancerous parents who decided to bolt from 3d 2022.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/28/18 05:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terps playday is looking stacked.


When is it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/28/18 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are right here is a correction!

NOVA SPOTLIGHT - RESULTS from today's Terrapin Classic:

Madlax Capital/Evergreen 9 vs Patriots 5
Patriots 7 vs Blackwolf/Evergreen 4

Madlax Capital/Evergreen 13 vs STEPS 2
Blackwolf/Evergreen 7 vs STEPS 6

My son tells me more players from Evergreen will be moving to MadLax and Blackwolf this summer for better competition and less of these Rec/B level tournaments Evergreen attends.

Evergreen seems to do very well developing talent for the other local clubs. The players from Evergreen have been a great addition to our team. Yes, Blackwolf parent here. Great midfield and defense including some with injuries. Attack can be improved - not very impressive on the small and non-aggressive side. Summer should be interesting if we can avoid injuries.


Don't get it. The Madlax Capital team that played in the Terrapin Classic had no Evergreen players and "Madlax Capital/Evergreen" does not make sense. The BW team had/has half a dozen Evergreen players and that tall middie is the only elite player. How can Evergreen have been a "great addition" when the team did not exist prior to the fall and the Evergreen players were there on Day 1? BW is on the decline, no matter what parents of former 3d/Evergreen players think. The only common thread is the cancerous parents who decided to bolt from 3d 2022.

The BW 2022 goalie is also an elite level goalie and one of the best in the age group. He will be a D1 prospect. BW is struggling. They still have talent but not enough to form a pure 2022 team. They had to use 2023's who are fine but playing up which is tough to do v. 2022 elite competition. The tall middie is a top player and a few BW players will get to the next level. This is not an elite team but a makeshift team/showcase. 2023 is an even a smaller pool. Evergreen had some good 2022's from 3d (good not great) but Evergreen 2023 is lower B and will not help BW. VLC starting earlier has taken even more talent in 2023 which leaves little for BW as DC Dogs kids are not going there so no Madlax leftovers. This may be the last BW team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/29/18 01:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are right here is a correction!

NOVA SPOTLIGHT - RESULTS from today's Terrapin Classic:

Madlax Capital/Evergreen 9 vs Patriots 5
Patriots 7 vs Blackwolf/Evergreen 4

Madlax Capital/Evergreen 13 vs STEPS 2
Blackwolf/Evergreen 7 vs STEPS 6

My son tells me more players from Evergreen will be moving to MadLax and Blackwolf this summer for better competition and less of these Rec/B level tournaments Evergreen attends.

Evergreen seems to do very well developing talent for the other local clubs. The players from Evergreen have been a great addition to our team. Yes, Blackwolf parent here. Great midfield and defense including some with injuries. Attack can be improved - not very impressive on the small and non-aggressive side. Summer should be interesting if we can avoid injuries.


Don't get it. The Madlax Capital team that played in the Terrapin Classic had no Evergreen players and "Madlax Capital/Evergreen" does not make sense. The BW team had/has half a dozen Evergreen players and that tall middie is the only elite player. How can Evergreen have been a "great addition" when the team did not exist prior to the fall and the Evergreen players were there on Day 1? BW is on the decline, no matter what parents of former 3d/Evergreen players think. The only common thread is the cancerous parents who decided to bolt from 3d 2022.

The BW 2022 goalie is also an elite level goalie and one of the best in the age group. He will be a D1 prospect. BW is struggling. They still have talent but not enough to form a pure 2022 team. They had to use 2023's who are fine but playing up which is tough to do v. 2022 elite competition. The tall middie is a top player and a few BW players will get to the next level. This is not an elite team but a makeshift team/showcase. 2023 is an even a smaller pool. Evergreen had some good 2022's from 3d (good not great) but Evergreen 2023 is lower B and will not help BW. VLC starting earlier has taken even more talent in 2023 which leaves little for BW as DC Dogs kids are not going there so no Madlax leftovers. This may be the last BW team.

Sounds about right including the lack of talent at 2023. At 2023 in NVA, it is Madlax DC Dogs on one level and everyone else is a big step down. Sure, if you want to squabble over whether DC Dogs is a NVA team, fine. It is not your normal Madlax squad where 75% of the team is from McLean but there are a bunch of VA players on DC Dogs and a bunch more would like to be.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/29/18 03:20 AM
Heard some rumblings earlier from a person in the know that the Madlax departures are not fake news. If the kids mentioned do leave for Blackwolf, that team just got a whole lot better and Madlax will be scrambling to backfill.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/29/18 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard some rumblings earlier from a person in the know that the Madlax departures are not fake news. If the kids mentioned do leave for Blackwolf, that team just got a whole lot better and Madlax will be scrambling to backfill.


Why would any starters from the DC dogs team leave this team? I am sure kids in the second line or the 4th or 5th attackman might leave but this happens with all great top teams not a big deal. And if you are in 9th grade you should really stop caring about what travel team is the best. Being seen is the real goal. Only leave to help this not win games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/29/18 07:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard some rumblings earlier from a person in the know that the Madlax departures are not fake news. If the kids mentioned do leave for Blackwolf, that team just got a whole lot better and Madlax will be scrambling to backfill.


Why would any starters from the DC dogs team leave this team? I am sure kids in the second line or the 4th or 5th attackman might leave but this happens with all great top teams not a big deal. And if you are in 9th grade you should really stop caring about what travel team is the best. Being seen is the real goal. Only leave to help this not win games.

DC Dogs is the 2023 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/29/18 07:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard some rumblings earlier from a person in the know that the Madlax departures are not fake news. If the kids mentioned do leave for Blackwolf, that team just got a whole lot better and Madlax will be scrambling to backfill.


Why would any starters from the DC dogs team leave this team? I am sure kids in the second line or the 4th or 5th attackman might leave but this happens with all great top teams not a big deal. And if you are in 9th grade you should really stop caring about what travel team is the best. Being seen is the real goal. Only leave to help this not win games.


Keep buying this crappola.... Being with an AA travel team vs a B+ will enhance your visibility. Look, if you're aiming for mid-tier D3, you'll be fine with Madlax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/29/18 08:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard some rumblings earlier from a person in the know that the Madlax departures are not fake news. If the kids mentioned do leave for Blackwolf, that team just got a whole lot better and Madlax will be scrambling to backfill.


Why would any starters from the DC dogs team leave this team? I am sure kids in the second line or the 4th or 5th attackman might leave but this happens with all great top teams not a big deal. And if you are in 9th grade you should really stop caring about what travel team is the best. Being seen is the real goal. Only leave to help this not win games.

You are right on with this post. First, despite what a previous poster wrote, DC Dogs is a MD team with ties to GP. How many VA kids will go there? There are not a bunch of VA kids, three good players and a back up goalie, who play on this team. The key to NOVA clubs are the Loudoun players. Most of the 2023 teams are set, 2022 teams have a little movement left if the kids are not happy. BW may be able to add to 2022 but will be out at 2023. However, the best advice is stay put. Moving from ML to BW is at best a lateral move but will hurt both teams. It is key to show well and not to worry about winning. I think 2022 and 2023 teams should stay put.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/29/18 09:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard some rumblings earlier from a person in the know that the Madlax departures are not fake news. If the kids mentioned do leave for Blackwolf, that team just got a whole lot better and Madlax will be scrambling to backfill.


Why would any starters from the DC dogs team leave this team? I am sure kids in the second line or the 4th or 5th attackman might leave but this happens with all great top teams not a big deal. And if you are in 9th grade you should really stop caring about what travel team is the best. Being seen is the real goal. Only leave to help this not win games.

You are right on with this post. First, despite what a previous poster wrote, DC Dogs is a MD team with ties to GP. How many VA kids will go there? There are not a bunch of VA kids, three good players and a back up goalie, who play on this team. The key to NOVA clubs are the Loudoun players. Most of the 2023 teams are set, 2022 teams have a little movement left if the kids are not happy. BW may be able to add to 2022 but will be out at 2023. However, the best advice is stay put. Moving from ML to BW is at best a lateral move but will hurt both teams. It is key to show well and not to worry about winning. I think 2022 and 2023 teams should stay put.

I think parents should take their money and kids somewhere where they feel the kid is being developed and having a good time. Crazy thought.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 11/29/18 11:05 PM
Club owners go crazy (nasty emails, threatening phone calls, badmouthing to college coaches, etc.) when a good player moves to another club. This is their little fiefdom and no one (no matter how knowledgeable about lacrosse, college admissions, etc.) can make good decisions for their own kids. We've devolved into AAU basketball except there aren't millions at stake but paltry partial scholarships and bragging rights at some [ChillLaxin]-bag cocktail party. Parents, some of these club owners are nice guys but almost none of them are vying for Mensa Club memberships. Don't let the hucksters in this racket derail your son's dream.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 01:07 AM
Terrapins have another tournament this weekend. Hawks, Roughriders, FCA, Leading Edge playing in it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 02:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terrapins have another tournament this weekend. Hawks, Roughriders, FCA, Leading Edge playing in it.



Let’s just play and forget all the hypothetical BS.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 03:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are right here is a correction!

NOVA SPOTLIGHT - RESULTS from today's Terrapin Classic:

Madlax Capital/Evergreen 9 vs Patriots 5
Patriots 7 vs Blackwolf/Evergreen 4

Madlax Capital/Evergreen 13 vs STEPS 2
Blackwolf/Evergreen 7 vs STEPS 6

My son tells me more players from Evergreen will be moving to MadLax and Blackwolf this summer for better competition and less of these Rec/B level tournaments Evergreen attends.

Evergreen seems to do very well developing talent for the other local clubs. The players from Evergreen have been a great addition to our team. Yes, Blackwolf parent here. Great midfield and defense including some with injuries. Attack can be improved - not very impressive on the small and non-aggressive side. Summer should be interesting if we can avoid injuries.


Don't get it. The Madlax Capital team that played in the Terrapin Classic had no Evergreen players and "Madlax Capital/Evergreen" does not make sense. The BW team had/has half a dozen Evergreen players and that tall middie is the only elite player. How can Evergreen have been a "great addition" when the team did not exist prior to the fall and the Evergreen players were there on Day 1? BW is on the decline, no matter what parents of former 3d/Evergreen players think. The only common thread is the cancerous parents who decided to bolt from 3d 2022.

The BW 2022 goalie is also an elite level goalie and one of the best in the age group. He will be a D1 prospect. BW is struggling. They still have talent but not enough to form a pure 2022 team. They had to use 2023's who are fine but playing up which is tough to do v. 2022 elite competition. The tall middie is a top player and a few BW players will get to the next level. This is not an elite team but a makeshift team/showcase. 2023 is an even a smaller pool. Evergreen had some good 2022's from 3d (good not great) but Evergreen 2023 is lower B and will not help BW. VLC starting earlier has taken even more talent in 2023 which leaves little for BW as DC Dogs kids are not going there so no Madlax leftovers. This may be the last BW team.

Sounds about right including the lack of talent at 2023. At 2023 in NVA, it is Madlax DC Dogs on one level and everyone else is a big step down. Sure, if you want to squabble over whether DC Dogs is a NVA team, fine. It is not your normal Madlax squad where 75% of the team is from McLean but there are a bunch of VA players on DC Dogs and a bunch more would like to be.



There are NOT a bunch of VA players DC Dogs. More like 2 kids from the defunct Madlax 23 Capital team who are on the bottom of the DC Dogs roster. DC Dogs is good right now, but their advantage lies in 8 holdbacks who are big. In 2 years, that advantage will disappear.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terrapins have another tournament this weekend. Hawks, Roughriders, FCA, Leading Edge playing in it.


Fca 7, Leading Edge 6
Roughriders 5, Hawks 3
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terrapins have another tournament this weekend. Hawks, Roughriders, FCA, Leading Edge playing in it.


Fca 7, Leading Edge 6
Roughriders 5, Hawks 3


Fca 3 Roughriders 6
Hawks 5 Leading Edge 4
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 05:02 PM
Ha ha ha - Roughriders beating Ripley’s holdback Hawks. That’s great. Puberty son... 😂
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ha ha ha - Roughriders beating Ripley’s holdback Hawks. That’s great. Puberty son... 😂


All of these teams have re-classed players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ha ha ha - Roughriders beating Ripley’s holdback Hawks. That’s great. Puberty son... 😂


Everyone really wants to beat the Hawks. Even during fall ball it means something to these other clubs to win. Hawks players were laughing and having a good time, even after they lost to RR. RR coach wanted Hawks players kicked out of the game because of body checks. What a joke.

FCA Coach was losing it during their game against the Hawks. Poor guy is going to have a heart attack.

It’s HS level ball now people. Relax and enjoy the process.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 06:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ha ha ha - Roughriders beating Ripley’s holdback Hawks. That’s great. Puberty son... 😂


The Hawks are the Trumps of lacrosse. Always living in everyone’s mind. Lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 07:35 PM
RoughRiders beating Hawks is nothing new here folks.

Hawks donut eating goalie took a cheap shot late in the game when RR where up late with ball. Goalie got full time unreleaseable penalty and should have been ejected.

RoughRiders Coach was protecting his players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 07:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ha ha ha - Roughriders beating Ripley’s holdback Hawks. That’s great. Puberty son... 😂


All of these teams have re-classed players.

Some have way more than others.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ha ha ha - Roughriders beating Ripley’s holdback Hawks. That’s great. Puberty son... 😂


Everyone really wants to beat the Hawks. Even during fall ball it means something to these other clubs to win. Hawks players were laughing and having a good time, even after they lost to RR. RR coach wanted Hawks players kicked out of the game because of body checks. What a joke.

FCA Coach was losing it during their game against the Hawks. Poor guy is going to have a heart attack.

It’s HS level ball now people. Relax and enjoy the process.


The "body check" was actually a crosscheck to the face mask and throat. It was high and it injured the player and there was a flag. Not surprised to see Hawks parents think that is "a Joke".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 09:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ha ha ha - Roughriders beating Ripley’s holdback Hawks. That’s great. Puberty son... 😂


All of these teams have re-classed players.

Some have way more than others.


And some clubs will cut kids they developed since 3rd grade for re-class kids (who are not as good) just because the dads are friends at the same country club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 09:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RoughRiders beating Hawks is nothing new here folks.

Hawks donut eating goalie took a cheap shot late in the game when RR where up late with ball. Goalie got full time unreleaseable penalty and should have been ejected.

RoughRiders Coach was protecting his players



That “donut eating goalie” rocked that kid chest to chest. Ref. Dropped the flag because the RR parents(old api group) started doing the crying.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 09:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ha ha ha - Roughriders beating Ripley’s holdback Hawks. That’s great. Puberty son... 😂


All of these teams have re-classed players.

Some have way more than others.


And some clubs will cut kids they developed since 3rd grade for re-class kids (who are not as good) just because the dads are friends at the same country club.



So your kid got cut and that’s why you hate. Poor guy. Life happens.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 10:17 PM
Good thing those Spalding kids got some practice laughing and having a good time after a loss. That’s a skill that will come in handy over the next few years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 10:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RoughRiders beating Hawks is nothing new here folks.

Hawks donut eating goalie took a cheap shot late in the game when RR where up late with ball. Goalie got full time unreleaseable penalty and should have been ejected.

RoughRiders Coach was protecting his players



RR Head Coach should have had a clear view of the hit. It was at chest level and shouldn’t have been called. No head of neck involved. It was big kid hitting a little one so it looked worse than it was. Sorry the player was injuries but that happens in contact sports.

Go watch your video before you call the kid names and bad mouth him.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 10:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RoughRiders beating Hawks is nothing new here folks.

Hawks donut eating goalie took a cheap shot late in the game when RR where up late with ball. Goalie got full time unreleaseable penalty and should have been ejected.

RoughRiders Coach was protecting his players



That “donut eating goalie” rocked that kid chest to chest. Ref. Dropped the flag because the RR parents(old api group) started doing the crying.


"Donut-eating goalie" totally unnecessary. That said, sorry you missed the game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 10:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ha ha ha - Roughriders beating Ripley’s holdback Hawks. That’s great. Puberty son... 😂


All of these teams have re-classed players.

Some have way more than others.


So now the complaint is the number of re-classed players on one team? What is an acceptable number?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/02/18 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good thing those Spalding kids got some practice laughing and having a good time after a loss. That’s a skill that will come in handy over the next few years.



Probably true but your kid will be on the bench behind the re-classed player.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 01:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good thing those Spalding kids got some practice laughing and having a good time after a loss. That’s a skill that will come in handy over the next few years.


This forum really needs a Like button!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 01:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RoughRiders beating Hawks is nothing new here folks.

Hawks donut eating goalie took a cheap shot late in the game when RR where up late with ball. Goalie got full time unreleaseable penalty and should have been ejected.

RoughRiders Coach was protecting his players



RR Head Coach should have had a clear view of the hit. It was at chest level and shouldn’t have been called. No head of neck involved. It was big kid hitting a little one so it looked worse than it was. Sorry the player was injuries but that happens in contact sports.

Go watch your video before you call the kid names and bad mouth him.


Stop it. Everyone in the stadium saw it. It was clearly an illegal hit. Ref flew the flag immediately and then conferred with his counterpart to determine length of full serve penalty, not if it was a foul or not.

People like you turn the conversation ugly. No one would be talking about this hit or the players involved if you didn’t bring it up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 01:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good thing those Spalding kids got some practice laughing and having a good time after a loss. That’s a skill that will come in handy over the next few years.


This forum really needs a Like button!


The topic needs to be changed to - Hawks/Spalding 2022

Only team that gets talked about.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 01:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RoughRiders beating Hawks is nothing new here folks.

Hawks donut eating goalie took a cheap shot late in the game when RR where up late with ball. Goalie got full time unreleaseable penalty and should have been ejected.

RoughRiders Coach was protecting his players



RR Head Coach should have had a clear view of the hit. It was at chest level and shouldn’t have been called. No head of neck involved. It was big kid hitting a little one so it looked worse than it was. Sorry the player was injuries but that happens in contact sports.

Go watch your video before you call the kid names and bad mouth him.


Stop it. Everyone in the stadium saw it. It was clearly an illegal hit. Ref flew the flag immediately and then conferred with his counterpart to determine length of full serve penalty, not if it was a foul or not.

People like you turn the conversation ugly. No one would be talking about this hit or the players involved if you didn’t bring it up.


No one would be talking about it if the ref. wouldn't have been swayed by the RR crowd to throw the flag. The parents cried about contact the entire game. Arden influence has taken over the team. soft
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 02:16 AM
The kids got an extra day of playing against great competition. It wasn’t pouring, the facilities were great and the weather was pretty mild. Be grateful people. Have a drink and relax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 01:15 PM
There's no way Hawks has more holdbacks than FCA. More than half that team was born before 9/1.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 01:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RoughRiders beating Hawks is nothing new here folks.

Hawks donut eating goalie took a cheap shot late in the game when RR where up late with ball. Goalie got full time unreleaseable penalty and should have been ejected.

RoughRiders Coach was protecting his players



RR Head Coach should have had a clear view of the hit. It was at chest level and shouldn’t have been called. No head of neck involved. It was big kid hitting a little one so it looked worse than it was. Sorry the player was injuries but that happens in contact sports.

Go watch your video before you call the kid names and bad mouth him.


Stop it. Everyone in the stadium saw it. It was clearly an illegal hit. Ref flew the flag immediately and then conferred with his counterpart to determine length of full serve penalty, not if it was a foul or not.

People like you turn the conversation ugly. No one would be talking about this hit or the players involved if you didn’t bring it up.


No one would be talking about it if the ref. wouldn't have been swayed by the RR crowd to throw the flag. The parents cried about contact the entire game. Arden influence has taken over the team. soft


It was a high hit that finished with a cross check on video. Ref threw the flag immediately.Had his hand in his pocket grabbing at the flag as the player hit the ground. Even the offending player turned and looked right at the ref after he did it. Helmet to helmet on first contact with a cross check to the chest that road up into the players throat and helmet. Hawks player extended his arms all the way out. That is a penalty. Good call by the ref.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 01:25 PM
Rawriders love taking cheap shots at opponents and now they are crying because it happened to them?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 01:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rawriders love taking cheap shots at opponents and now they are crying because it happened to them?


Its impossible for you to be more full of s!@#$. But thanks for finally admitting it was a blatant foul.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 01:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


It was a high hit that finished with a cross check on video. Ref threw the flag immediately.Had his hand in his pocket grabbing at the flag as the player hit the ground. Even the offending player turned and looked right at the ref after he did it. Helmet to helmet on first contact with a cross check to the chest that road up into the players throat and helmet. Hawks player extended his arms all the way out. That is a penalty. Good call by the ref.


Post this said video then so everyone can shut up and move on and enjoy the holiday season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 02:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rawriders love taking cheap shots at opponents and now they are crying because it happened to them?

The only crying came from whoever this Hawks dad is who pointed out that RR coaches wanted a penalty on a high hit. No one on the RR side thought the game was dirty or cheap or thinks the player is dirty or cheap. It was a penalty that was called a penalty and everyone but you moved on. With all the success that the Hawks have had, I guess you forgot how to lose graciously. Happy holidays!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kids got an extra day of playing against great competition. It wasn’t pouring, the facilities were great and the weather was pretty mild. Be grateful people. Have a drink and relax.


Agreed. All four teams were a treat to watch.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 03:34 PM
Enough of the histrionics, now for the lacrosse analysis, RRs were the best coached team on the carpet at Byrd. They have a current high school/college level coach who game plans and makes adjustments accordingly. The RRs didn't foul as much as their opponents and their MDD and EMO sets were much more effective than their counterparts. They have consistently shown this over the past summer and fall. Outdated and one dimensional offenses and ineffective transition games are easy prey for an experienced and well prepared coaching staff and team. I do like the fact that the Crabs, Team 91, RRs, Hawks and FCA are all within several goals of each other talent wise. It makes for fun competitive lacrosse. What you're going to see over the next three years on the club scene is that coaching matters more the older the boys get. Last summer and this fall's results are a harbinger of things to come. Any club that rests on its laurels and doesn't improve (player development, acquisition and most importantly coaching wise) won't reach its potential.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 05:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough of the histrionics, now for the lacrosse analysis, RRs were the best coached team on the carpet at Byrd. They have a current high school/college level coach who game plans and makes adjustments accordingly. The RRs didn't foul as much as their opponents and their MDD and EMO sets were much more effective than their counterparts. They have consistently shown this over the past summer and fall. Outdated and one dimensional offenses and ineffective transition games are easy prey for an experienced and well prepared coaching staff and team. I do like the fact that the Crabs, Team 91, RRs, Hawks and FCA are all within several goals of each other talent wise. It makes for fun competitive lacrosse. What you're going to see over the next three years on the club scene is that coaching matters more the older the boys get. Last summer and this fall's results are a harbinger of things to come. Any club that rests on its laurels and doesn't improve (player development, acquisition and most importantly coaching wise) won't reach its potential.


^^^
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 06:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kids got an extra day of playing against great competition. It wasn’t pouring, the facilities were great and the weather was pretty mild. Be grateful people. Have a drink and relax.


Agreed. All four teams were a treat to watch.

Amen
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 06:52 PM
Who/what is Spalding?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 08:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who/what is Spalding?



You don’t know? You better ask somebody.

Soon to be the most dominant team in the MIAA!!! Period
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 08:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who/what is Spalding?


Top MIAA team in Anne Arundel County.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 08:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who/what is Spalding?



You don’t know? You better ask somebody.

Soon to be the most dominant team in the MIAA!!! Period


A little history of the school's founder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ901Y51byo
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 09:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who/what is Spalding?


grandson of the great Judge Smails, co-founder of Bushwood Country Club
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 10:32 PM
Top MIAA team in Anne Arundel Co. - what? 2-8 and lost to John Carroll. Best team in Glen Burnie maybe.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 10:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top MIAA team in Anne Arundel Co. - what? 2-8 and lost to John Carroll. Best team in Glen Burnie maybe.


That’s old news. There is a new sheriff in town and he locked and loaded with talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/03/18 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


It was a high hit that finished with a cross check on video. Ref threw the flag immediately.Had his hand in his pocket grabbing at the flag as the player hit the ground. Even the offending player turned and looked right at the ref after he did it. Helmet to helmet on first contact with a cross check to the chest that road up into the players throat and helmet. Hawks player extended his arms all the way out. That is a penalty. Good call by the ref.


Post this said video then so everyone can shut up and move on and enjoy the holiday season.


It was clear from the original post the ref made the right calls on the filed. It is the losers comments and name calling on a kid and then acting like his kids team doesn't play that way every game then bringing up holdbacks like RR has none.. Sounds like it was a rough game like it always is against these 2 teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 01:12 AM
Same coaching staff jerky. New Sheriff? Who dat? [ChillLaxin] with a line-ex painted truck?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 02:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good thing those Spalding kids got some practice laughing and having a good time after a loss. That’s a skill that will come in handy over the next few years.


This forum really needs a Like button!


The topic needs to be changed to - Hawks/Spalding 2022

Only team that gets talked about.


You can say that but the most talented kids on the Hawks are actually going to St. John’s.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 02:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who/what is Spalding?


grandson of the great Judge Smails, co-founder of Bushwood Country Club


Wellllllllll????........WE'RE WAITING!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 02:56 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kids got an extra day of playing against great competition. It wasn’t pouring, the facilities were great and the weather was pretty mild. Be grateful people. Have a drink and relax.


Agreed. All four teams were a treat to watch.


It is always enjoyable watching 10th graders masquerade as 9th graders while playing lacrosse. Over half the 2022 players are at proper 10th grade age. What a clown sport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 03:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good thing those Spalding kids got some practice laughing and having a good time after a loss. That’s a skill that will come in handy over the next few years.


This forum really needs a Like button!


The topic needs to be changed to - Hawks/Spalding 2022

Only team that gets talked about.


You can say that but the most talented kids on the Hawks are actually going to St. John’s.




Half the team is Spalding - 1/4 St Johns and the team is not very good and is going in the wrong direction. Every other top level team is getting better . 3w3fcf
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 03:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


The topic needs to be changed to - Hawks/Spalding 2022

Only team that gets talked about.


You can say that but the most talented kids on the Hawks are actually going to St. John’s.




Half the team is Spalding - 1/4 St Johns and the team is not very good and is going in the wrong direction. Every other top level team is getting better . 3w3fcf

Now you’re just trolling. Were you even there Sunday? I doubt it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 04:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RoughRiders beating Hawks is nothing new here folks.

Hawks donut eating goalie took a cheap shot late in the game when RR where up late with ball. Goalie got full time unreleaseable penalty and should have been ejected.

RoughRiders Coach was protecting his players



RR Head Coach should have had a clear view of the hit. It was at chest level and shouldn’t have been called. No head of neck involved. It was big kid hitting a little one so it looked worse than it was. Sorry the player was injuries but that happens in contact sports.

Go watch your video before you call the kid names and bad mouth him.


Stop it. Everyone in the stadium saw it. It was clearly an illegal hit. Ref flew the flag immediately and then conferred with his counterpart to determine length of full serve penalty, not if it was a foul or not.

People like you turn the conversation ugly. No one would be talking about this hit or the players involved if you didn’t bring it up.


No one would be talking about it if the ref. wouldn't have been swayed by the RR crowd to throw the flag. The parents cried about contact the entire game. Arden influence has taken over the team. soft


It was a high hit that finished with a cross check on video. Ref threw the flag immediately.Had his hand in his pocket grabbing at the flag as the player hit the ground. Even the offending player turned and looked right at the ref after he did it. Helmet to helmet on first contact with a cross check to the chest that road up into the players throat and helmet. Hawks player extended his arms all the way out. That is a penalty. Good call by the ref.


Half right. It was a clean play until the player extended his arms making it a cross check as it started chest to chest. However, his arms did not rise to the throat or head. The players head came forward on impact making it look like there was contact to the throat. The goalies arms actually pushed in a downward motion knocking the player to the ground. It should have been a one minute penalty for a cross check and not full time. It is a penalty that happens in every game with the difference being that this one was full speed and with the intensity of a LB hitting a RB leaving the attackman on the short end. For the most part, just another lacrosse play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 11:24 AM
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It is always enjoyable watching 10th graders masquerade as 9th graders while playing lacrosse. Over half the 2022 players are at proper 10th grade age. What a clown sport. [/quote]

What's your point? So long as the high schools allow it and colleges need to recruit every year, it will go on. The same will hold true for 21's, 22's and so on. It has taken the burden off of colleges having to red shirt so they love it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 12:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


It was a high hit that finished with a cross check on video. Ref threw the flag immediately.Had his hand in his pocket grabbing at the flag as the player hit the ground. Even the offending player turned and looked right at the ref after he did it. Helmet to helmet on first contact with a cross check to the chest that road up into the players throat and helmet. Hawks player extended his arms all the way out. That is a penalty. Good call by the ref.


Post this said video then so everyone can shut up and move on and enjoy the holiday season.


It was clear from the original post the ref made the right calls on the filed. It is the losers comments and name calling on a kid and then acting like his kids team doesn't play that way every game then bringing up holdbacks like RR has none.. Sounds like it was a rough game like it always is against these 2 teams



Actually, somebody, (probably an "API dad") was poking fun at Hawks for losing. The follow up comment about "RR parents crying about the fowl, forcing the refs to throw flags and being soft," is probably what kicked off the donut comment, but both comments were wrong. The reality is that It was a blatant foul. Parents on EVERY team call those out, especially when a player is down on the field as a result. There were several helmet to helmet hits in the game. Hawks were getting flustered in the second half and getting physical and chippy. It happens. RR played through it and did what they needed to do. All the kids and coaches lined up and shook hands after the game with no hard feelings until BOTC. There is a shocker! As for the other antagonistic comments regarding RR "style of play and holdbacks", you are clearly just deflecting or inviting more comments and its not even remotely close by comparison. Last year, over half the RR players couldn't even jump off a springboard to hit a Hawk in the helmet. You have had the biggest team in 2022 club lacrosse for years until last Spring. During that time RR and other teams have had maybe 3-4 kids total who would be considered an average size player on the Hawks roster? The size advantage has almost completely diminished since last Spring. Learn how to lose gracefully like others did before you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 01:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good thing those Spalding kids got some practice laughing and having a good time after a loss. That’s a skill that will come in handy over the next few years.


This forum really needs a Like button!


The topic needs to be changed to - Hawks/Spalding 2022

Only team that gets talked about.


You can say that but the most talented kids on the Hawks are actually going to St. John’s.




Saw SJ play at the NHSLS. They still stink.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 03:44 PM
RR beat the Hawks during the Summer and have always played them tough. Its never been a huge size differential. Your analysis is pedestrian. Watch the film, and compare the stats and tell me why the RRs now have the upper hand versus the Hawks. Is it a match up issue or coaching? Is one staff rolling the ball out while the other is game planning and making in game adjustments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 06:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


It is always enjoyable watching 10th graders masquerade as 9th graders while playing lacrosse. Over half the 2022 players are at proper 10th grade age. What a clown sport. [/quote]

What's your point? So long as the high schools allow it and colleges need to recruit every year, it will go on. The same will hold true for 21's, 22's and so on. It has taken the burden off of colleges having to red shirt so they love it.
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The point is your kid wasn’t good enough to play with kids his own age so he had to sandbag.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


It is always enjoyable watching 10th graders masquerade as 9th graders while playing lacrosse. Over half the 2022 players are at proper 10th grade age. What a clown sport.


What's your point? So long as the high schools allow it and colleges need to recruit every year, it will go on. The same will hold true for 21's, 22's and so on. It has taken the burden off of colleges having to red shirt so they love it.
[/quote]

The point is your kid wasn’t good enough to play with kids his own age so he had to sandbag.
[/quote]

Can we talk about lacrosse the sport, not some holdback hating dad's hang up? Your son is going to suffer in high school when he plays against the seniors whether he's a true freshman or a holdback. Get ready to see him get trucked and beaten down on a regular basis. What are you going to whine about then? Life's not fair, he's got a pleasant disposition, or too small of a build.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


It is always enjoyable watching 10th graders masquerade as 9th graders while playing lacrosse. Over half the 2022 players are at proper 10th grade age. What a clown sport. [/quote]

What's your point? So long as the high schools allow it and colleges need to recruit every year, it will go on. The same will hold true for 21's, 22's and so on. It has taken the burden off of colleges having to red shirt so they love it.
[/quote]

Please show me a sport where no one is reclass. Clown
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by Coach Ripley
Good game coach. You guys always give us a good run.

Originally Posted by Coach Reese
Thanks coach. You have a great team.

Originally Posted by Coach Ripley
Good luck in your other games.

Originally Posted by Coach Reese
Yeah, same to you. Hope the rain holds off.

Originally Posted by Coach Ripley
Coach Wood, did everyone get some time?

Originally Posted by Coach Reese
Boys, that game is over. On to the next one.

Originally Posted by kids
Will you be on Xbox later?

Originally Posted by BOTC Crazies
Hold backs, cheap shots, Spalding, API parents, cry babies, soft, watch the tape, bad game plan, donut-eating, rawriders, puberty, your kid got cut, LINE-X truck, SJC stinks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 10:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


It is always enjoyable watching 10th graders masquerade as 9th graders while playing lacrosse. Over half the 2022 players are at proper 10th grade age. What a clown sport.


What's your point? So long as the high schools allow it and colleges need to recruit every year, it will go on. The same will hold true for 21's, 22's and so on. It has taken the burden off of colleges having to red shirt so they love it.
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The point is your kid wasn’t good enough to play with kids his own age so he had to sandbag.
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Have you voiced your issues with the NCAA, USL and the tournament directors or are you just posting anonymously on forums like these? Otherwise, you are wasting your time. The large majority of the best players coming out of high school are born prior to 9/1 - in any scholarship sport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 10:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


It is always enjoyable watching 10th graders masquerade as 9th graders while playing lacrosse. Over half the 2022 players are at proper 10th grade age. What a clown sport.


What's your point? So long as the high schools allow it and colleges need to recruit every year, it will go on. The same will hold true for 21's, 22's and so on. It has taken the burden off of colleges having to red shirt so they love it.


The point is your kid wasn’t good enough to play with kids his own age so he had to sandbag.
[/quote]

Can we talk about lacrosse the sport, not some holdback hating dad's hang up? Your son is going to suffer in high school when he plays against the seniors whether he's a true freshman or a holdback. Get ready to see him get trucked and beaten down on a regular basis. What are you going to whine about then? Life's not fair, he's got a pleasant disposition, or too small of a build.
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This kid is never going to make the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 10:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Coach Ripley
Good game coach. You guys always give us a good run.

Originally Posted by Coach Reese
Thanks coach. You have a great team.

Originally Posted by Coach Ripley
Good luck in your other games.

Originally Posted by Coach Reese
Yeah, same to you. Hope the rain holds off.

Originally Posted by Coach Ripley
Coach Wood, did everyone get some time?

Originally Posted by Coach Reese
Boys, that game is over. On to the next one.

Originally Posted by kids
Will you be on Xbox later?

Originally Posted by BOTC Crazies
Hold backs, cheap shots, Spalding, API parents, cry babies, soft, watch the tape, bad game plan, donut-eating, rawriders, puberty, your kid got cut, LINE-X truck, SJC stinks


Thank you for this coach.

This was an entertaining post and I see the point you are trying to make. Some of the above is out of line, IMO.

However.... Hosting high school commitment ceremonies... layering on the hashtags... shepherding naive kids and families to a random commuter school where you have influence and a coaching job... YOU are the one who opened this pandora's box. You preach taking responsibility... will you take responsibility for what you have created?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/04/18 11:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RR beat the Hawks during the Summer and have always played them tough. Its never been a huge size differential. Your analysis is pedestrian. Watch the film, and compare the stats and tell me why the RRs now have the upper hand versus the Hawks. Is it a match up issue or coaching? Is one staff rolling the ball out while the other is game planning and making in game adjustments.


Sorry, It has a lot to do with the rest of the 2022 club players growing 2-4" and maturing over the last year. The Hawks players who have always been bigger, faster and more physically mature than the rest of 2022 are leveling off. That is why they did not run the table after HoCo last season like they have in years past. Its not coaching rocket science. Hawks practice more than anyone and their coaches do a fine job. They beat RR 10-2 in HoCo last Spring because they were well coached, well practiced and RR struggled to stop a couple of the Hawks players due to their size and speed. Of course RR improved and has good coaching, but don't discount the natural 8-9th grade age as it relates to puberty and accelerated growth. If you watched the game Sunday, the Hawks almost looked like the smaller team. Their players that used to tower over everyone are no longer the biggest kids on the field. Game on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 12:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


It is always enjoyable watching 10th graders masquerade as 9th graders while playing lacrosse. Over half the 2022 players are at proper 10th grade age. What a clown sport.


What's your point? So long as the high schools allow it and colleges need to recruit every year, it will go on. The same will hold true for 21's, 22's and so on. It has taken the burden off of colleges having to red shirt so they love it.
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Please show me a sport where no one is reclass. Clown
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Sorry your son couldnt make it against same age competition. Youth Lacrosse is the worst. Bar None. Say what you want about all sports. It just isnt true. Is there some, for sure, But the world of lacrosse, overage players for their grade are the norm for the supposed elite teams. Clown is Clown,,and that is clown
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 01:44 AM
Great past weekend of lacrosse at Maryland. Hawks RoughRiders and FCA all played well. No bad blood between any team there. Hawks RoughRiders FCA are the 3 best teams from Maryland in the 2022 class right now. Have fun this spring in high school playing either Freshman JV or Varsity. See you all next summer when club ball starts back up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 02:31 AM
Wrong. Madlax 2022 is the best in the area.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 11:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wrong. Madlax 2022 is the best in the area.


91MD
RR
Hawks
Fca
Crabs
DCE/Madlax(pick em)
API
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 12:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wrong. Madlax 2022 is the best in the area.


91MD
RR
Hawks
Fca
Crabs
DCE/Madlax(pick em)
API


API is not in the conversation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 12:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


It is always enjoyable watching 10th graders masquerade as 9th graders while playing lacrosse. Over half the 2022 players are at proper 10th grade age. What a clown sport.


What's your point? So long as the high schools allow it and colleges need to recruit every year, it will go on. The same will hold true for 21's, 22's and so on. It has taken the burden off of colleges having to red shirt so they love it.


Please show me a sport where no one is reclass. Clown
[/quote]

Sorry your son couldnt make it against same age competition. Youth Lacrosse is the worst. Bar None. Say what you want about all sports. It just isnt true. Is there some, for sure, But the world of lacrosse, overage players for their grade are the norm for the supposed elite teams. Clown is Clown,,and that is clown[/quote]

Someone is BITTER!! It’s gonna be ok. Promise
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 02:41 PM
In ALL the HUGE number of conversations about holdbacks, I have yet to see anyone make a case for why it's a good system. The best folks can do is insult the parents and their kids who play on-age ("Hit the wall" "Get better").

No rational person who cared about the kids would design a club system with holdbacks. The ONLY reason it is done is to make it easier for college coaches to attend recruiting events.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wrong. Madlax 2022 is the best in the area.


91MD
RR
Hawks
Fca
Crabs
DCE/Madlax(pick em)
API


This is about right although the first two teams are a pick em. Interesting comments on the forum regarding how other teams are now bigger and faster than others and how its showing up on the scoreboard.

When you watch the film, you can break the game into phases: transition defense, settled defense, goalie play, unsettled clearing, settled clearing, faceoffs including wing play, transition offense, settled offense and last EMO and MDD. Top club, high school and college staffs monitor all of these phases and adjust according to the personnel available.

You can have the best goalie in the world but a porous transition and settled D will undermine his ability to save the ball. The opposite is also true. You can create ten plus fast-break opportunities in a game which go for naught if the offense can't capitalize on them. If your team fouls a lot and your MDD or keeper are lacking, you will pay the price. Its all about percentages/wins and losses in all of the phases of the game that fill out the canvass and paint the picture. Do size and speed matter? Sure but they're not any more important than stickwork, spacing or communication,

Whoever made the comment about practice time being the end all be all has never coached a successful championship high school or college program. While practice time is important it pales in comparison to the contents of quality film study/practice plan. Is the staff breaking down the aforementioned phases of the game and preparing a "critical path" to improve their team's performance? Are they translating this improvement plan into film study and practice drills. The film and the metrics never lie. Does a team progress or regress over a season? Injuries aside, the team's record and the film paint a very clear picture.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In ALL the HUGE number of conversations about holdbacks, I have yet to see anyone make a case for why it's a good system. The best folks can do is insult the parents and their kids who play on-age ("Hit the wall" "Get better").

No rational person who cared about the kids would design a club system with holdbacks. The ONLY reason it is done is to make it easier for college coaches to attend recruiting events.

You are forgetting the primary reason this system was created and the largest benefactor. Private schools. This does not apply only to sports. Private schools have a small pool if parents that can pay 15-45K per year for K-12. Over time that is serious money. Many of these parents are encouraged to do so at a young age. This way they get an extra year of tuition. If they hold back another year that is one more year. As the best lacrosse programs collect these students at private schools, lacrosse is impacted even more by this. It is not good for the development of the sport, it does not improve the college game or make it easier on college coaches to get older players. THE reason it grows is the extra year of tuition payments. I do not know of any public school holdbacks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 04:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In ALL the HUGE number of conversations about holdbacks, I have yet to see anyone make a case for why it's a good system. The best folks can do is insult the parents and their kids who play on-age ("Hit the wall" "Get better").

No rational person who cared about the kids would design a club system with holdbacks. The ONLY reason it is done is to make it easier for college coaches to attend recruiting events.


The best system would be for the kids to advance to the next age bracket on their birthday but no one cares, especially the colleges. They want the biggest, fastest, strongest and most skilled players and those are usually the kids who are older.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 05:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In ALL the HUGE number of conversations about holdbacks, I have yet to see anyone make a case for why it's a good system. The best folks can do is insult the parents and their kids who play on-age ("Hit the wall" "Get better").

No rational person who cared about the kids would design a club system with holdbacks. The ONLY reason it is done is to make it easier for college coaches to attend recruiting events.

You are forgetting the primary reason this system was created and the largest benefactor. Private schools. This does not apply only to sports. Private schools have a small pool if parents that can pay 15-45K per year for K-12. Over time that is serious money. Many of these parents are encouraged to do so at a young age. This way they get an extra year of tuition. If they hold back another year that is one more year. As the best lacrosse programs collect these students at private schools, lacrosse is impacted even more by this. It is not good for the development of the sport, it does not improve the college game or make it easier on college coaches to get older players. THE reason it grows is the extra year of tuition payments. I do not know of any public school holdbacks.


That's silly. There are plenty of public school holdbacks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 05:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In ALL the HUGE number of conversations about holdbacks, I have yet to see anyone make a case for why it's a good system. The best folks can do is insult the parents and their kids who play on-age ("Hit the wall" "Get better").

No rational person who cared about the kids would design a club system with holdbacks. The ONLY reason it is done is to make it easier for college coaches to attend recruiting events.

You are forgetting the primary reason this system was created and the largest benefactor. Private schools. This does not apply only to sports. Private schools have a small pool if parents that can pay 15-45K per year for K-12. Over time that is serious money. Many of these parents are encouraged to do so at a young age. This way they get an extra year of tuition. If they hold back another year that is one more year. As the best lacrosse programs collect these students at private schools, lacrosse is impacted even more by this. It is not good for the development of the sport, it does not improve the college game or make it easier on college coaches to get older players. THE reason it grows is the extra year of tuition payments. I do not know of any public school holdbacks.


That's silly. There are plenty of public school holdbacks.


Someone has no idea what they are talking about.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In ALL the HUGE number of conversations about holdbacks, I have yet to see anyone make a case for why it's a good system. The best folks can do is insult the parents and their kids who play on-age ("Hit the wall" "Get better").

No rational person who cared about the kids would design a club system with holdbacks. The ONLY reason it is done is to make it easier for college coaches to attend recruiting events.

You are forgetting the primary reason this system was created and the largest benefactor. Private schools. This does not apply only to sports. Private schools have a small pool if parents that can pay 15-45K per year for K-12. Over time that is serious money. Many of these parents are encouraged to do so at a young age. This way they get an extra year of tuition. If they hold back another year that is one more year. As the best lacrosse programs collect these students at private schools, lacrosse is impacted even more by this. It is not good for the development of the sport, it does not improve the college game or make it easier on college coaches to get older players. THE reason it grows is the extra year of tuition payments. I do not know of any public school holdbacks.


That's silly. There are plenty of public school holdbacks.


Someone has no idea what they are talking about.


Until just a few years ago that was true, Very rarely did you see a public school holdback. Unfortunately, More and more you do. Just trying to compete against all the Private school holdbacks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In ALL the HUGE number of conversations about holdbacks, I have yet to see anyone make a case for why it's a good system. The best folks can do is insult the parents and their kids who play on-age ("Hit the wall" "Get better").

No rational person who cared about the kids would design a club system with holdbacks. The ONLY reason it is done is to make it easier for college coaches to attend recruiting events.

You are forgetting the primary reason this system was created and the largest benefactor. Private schools. This does not apply only to sports. Private schools have a small pool if parents that can pay 15-45K per year for K-12. Over time that is serious money. Many of these parents are encouraged to do so at a young age. This way they get an extra year of tuition. If they hold back another year that is one more year. As the best lacrosse programs collect these students at private schools, lacrosse is impacted even more by this. It is not good for the development of the sport, it does not improve the college game or make it easier on college coaches to get older players. THE reason it grows is the extra year of tuition payments. I do not know of any public school holdbacks.


That's silly. There are plenty of public school holdbacks.


Someone has no idea what they are talking about.

You can have your son do two years of Kindergarten in public schools, and I am pretty sure you can start your kid at 6 not 5 in public schools but I could be wrong.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 07:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wrong. Madlax 2022 is the best in the area.


91MD
RR
Hawks
Fca
Crabs
DCE/Madlax(pick em)
API


"List subject to change if BWI shuts down".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/05/18 09:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In ALL the HUGE number of conversations about holdbacks, I have yet to see anyone make a case for why it's a good system. The best folks can do is insult the parents and their kids who play on-age ("Hit the wall" "Get better").

No rational person who cared about the kids would design a club system with holdbacks. The ONLY reason it is done is to make it easier for college coaches to attend recruiting events.

You are forgetting the primary reason this system was created and the largest benefactor. Private schools. This does not apply only to sports. Private schools have a small pool if parents that can pay 15-45K per year for K-12. Over time that is serious money. Many of these parents are encouraged to do so at a young age. This way they get an extra year of tuition. If they hold back another year that is one more year. As the best lacrosse programs collect these students at private schools, lacrosse is impacted even more by this. It is not good for the development of the sport, it does not improve the college game or make it easier on college coaches to get older players. THE reason it grows is the extra year of tuition payments. I do not know of any public school holdbacks.


That's silly. There are plenty of public school holdbacks.


Someone has no idea what they are talking about.



This has been happening for decades in basketball, football and baseball with public and private kids. So many public school kids have gone on to do an extra year before entering college. An extra year to develop more mentally and or physically. Private school folks just mastered it by repeating early grades or starting late or calling it a Post Grad year,All options vs Red Shirting in college ,which most who do that do not have income to pay for a private school to get the extra year. Not every public school kid is poor either. Plenty of wealthy folks in public schools who do the same thing as private wealthy folks.
Because these sports are the main attraction at every level of almost any college and get the most scholarships it is not magnified like the lacrosse world. Lacrosse world is known to most to be a wealthy sport with limited exposure and limited scholarships. Much easier for the wealthy to manipulate the system even though they can out right pay for the tuition of their kids. This is a system that has been going on for decades with public and private school kids and the lacrosse community seems to embrace it because the college role it plays. Fair or not there is plenty of lacrosse for all now and there surely is a place for all levels of lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/06/18 12:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In ALL the HUGE number of conversations about holdbacks, I have yet to see anyone make a case for why it's a good system. The best folks can do is insult the parents and their kids who play on-age ("Hit the wall" "Get better").

No rational person who cared about the kids would design a club system with holdbacks. The ONLY reason it is done is to make it easier for college coaches to attend recruiting events.

You are forgetting the primary reason this system was created and the largest benefactor. Private schools. This does not apply only to sports. Private schools have a small pool if parents that can pay 15-45K per year for K-12. Over time that is serious money. Many of these parents are encouraged to do so at a young age. This way they get an extra year of tuition. If they hold back another year that is one more year. As the best lacrosse programs collect these students at private schools, lacrosse is impacted even more by this. It is not good for the development of the sport, it does not improve the college game or make it easier on college coaches to get older players. THE reason it grows is the extra year of tuition payments. I do not know of any public school holdbacks.


That's silly. There are plenty of public school holdbacks.


Someone has no idea what they are talking about.

You can have your son do two years of Kindergarten in public schools, and I am pretty sure you can start your kid at 6 not 5 in public schools but I could be wrong.


You're not wrong. There are plenty of public school kids with july and august birthdays that didn't start school until they were 6. No different than the private school kids going to pre-First
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/06/18 12:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wrong. Madlax 2022 is the best in the area.


91MD
RR
Hawks
Fca
Crabs
DCE/Madlax(pick em)
API


FCA went 5-4 this fall. May want to rethink your rankings.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/06/18 01:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wrong. Madlax 2022 is the best in the area.


91MD
RR
Hawks
Fca
Crabs
DCE/Madlax(pick em)
API


FCA went 5-4 this fall. May want to rethink your rankings.



Who would you put in front of them-
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/06/18 03:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In ALL the HUGE number of conversations about holdbacks, I have yet to see anyone make a case for why it's a good system. The best folks can do is insult the parents and their kids who play on-age ("Hit the wall" "Get better").

No rational person who cared about the kids would design a club system with holdbacks. The ONLY reason it is done is to make it easier for college coaches to attend recruiting events.

You are forgetting the primary reason this system was created and the largest benefactor. Private schools. This does not apply only to sports. Private schools have a small pool if parents that can pay 15-45K per year for K-12. Over time that is serious money. Many of these parents are encouraged to do so at a young age. This way they get an extra year of tuition. If they hold back another year that is one more year. As the best lacrosse programs collect these students at private schools, lacrosse is impacted even more by this. It is not good for the development of the sport, it does not improve the college game or make it easier on college coaches to get older players. THE reason it grows is the extra year of tuition payments. I do not know of any public school holdbacks.


That's silly. There are plenty of public school holdbacks.


Someone has no idea what they are talking about.



This has been happening for decades in basketball, football and baseball with public and private kids. So many public school kids have gone on to do an extra year before entering college. An extra year to develop more mentally and or physically. Private school folks just mastered it by repeating early grades or starting late or calling it a Post Grad year,All options vs Red Shirting in college ,which most who do that do not have income to pay for a private school to get the extra year. Not every public school kid is poor either. Plenty of wealthy folks in public schools who do the same thing as private wealthy folks.
Because these sports are the main attraction at every level of almost any college and get the most scholarships it is not magnified like the lacrosse world. Lacrosse world is known to most to be a wealthy sport with limited exposure and limited scholarships. Much easier for the wealthy to manipulate the system even though they can out right pay for the tuition of their kids. This is a system that has been going on for decades with public and private school kids and the lacrosse community seems to embrace it because the college role it plays. Fair or not there is plenty of lacrosse for all now and there surely is a place for all levels of lacrosse.


The biggest issue is with youth sports. It is a huge advantage being a year older than most and is not in the spirit of youth athletics, It is a cancer on youth sports that no one can justify and especially now with recruiting done in soph/JR year. I have never seen as many holdbacks in lacrosse as there are now. I have been around youth/HS lacrosse for over 30 years. Frankly its seems like an epidemic as everyone knows there is a BIG advantage at youth level. Sorta sad ,

High School is still an advantage but you do have a 4 year spread to minimize it, but for many the extra year advantage carries on in JV/Varsity due to more playing time in youth.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/06/18 03:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wrong. Madlax 2022 is the best in the area.


91MD
RR
Hawks
Fca
Crabs
DCE/Madlax(pick em)
API


FCA went 5-4 this fall. May want to rethink your rankings.

Well, 2 of the 4 losses are to the teams he has in front of them. They beat DCE. Did they lose to any of the MD teams behind them?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/06/18 02:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous



Actually, somebody, (probably an "API dad") was poking fun at Hawks for losing. The follow up comment about "RR parents crying about the fowl, forcing the refs to throw flags and being soft," is probably what kicked off the donut comment, but both comments were wrong. The reality is that It was a blatant foul. Parents on EVERY team call those out, especially when a player is down on the field as a result. There were several helmet to helmet hits in the game. Hawks were getting flustered in the second half and getting physical and chippy. It happens. RR played through it and did what they needed to do. All the kids and coaches lined up and shook hands after the game with no hard feelings until BOTC. There is a shocker! As for the other antagonistic comments regarding RR "style of play and holdbacks", you are clearly just deflecting or inviting more comments and its not even remotely close by comparison. Last year, over half the RR players couldn't even jump off a springboard to hit a Hawk in the helmet. You have had the biggest team in 2022 club lacrosse for years until last Spring. During that time RR and other teams have had maybe 3-4 kids total who would be considered an average size player on the Hawks roster? The size advantage has almost completely diminished since last Spring. Learn how to lose gracefully like others did before you.


^^^
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/06/18 10:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In ALL the HUGE number of conversations about holdbacks, I have yet to see anyone make a case for why it's a good system. The best folks can do is insult the parents and their kids who play on-age ("Hit the wall" "Get better").

No rational person who cared about the kids would design a club system with holdbacks. The ONLY reason it is done is to make it easier for college coaches to attend recruiting events.

You are forgetting the primary reason this system was created and the largest benefactor. Private schools. This does not apply only to sports. Private schools have a small pool if parents that can pay 15-45K per year for K-12. Over time that is serious money. Many of these parents are encouraged to do so at a young age. This way they get an extra year of tuition. If they hold back another year that is one more year. As the best lacrosse programs collect these students at private schools, lacrosse is impacted even more by this. It is not good for the development of the sport, it does not improve the college game or make it easier on college coaches to get older players. THE reason it grows is the extra year of tuition payments. I do not know of any public school holdbacks.


That's silly. There are plenty of public school holdbacks.


Someone has no idea what they are talking about.



This has been happening for decades in basketball, football and baseball with public and private kids. So many public school kids have gone on to do an extra year before entering college. An extra year to develop more mentally and or physically. Private school folks just mastered it by repeating early grades or starting late or calling it a Post Grad year,All options vs Red Shirting in college ,which most who do that do not have income to pay for a private school to get the extra year. Not every public school kid is poor either. Plenty of wealthy folks in public schools who do the same thing as private wealthy folks.
Because these sports are the main attraction at every level of almost any college and get the most scholarships it is not magnified like the lacrosse world. Lacrosse world is known to most to be a wealthy sport with limited exposure and limited scholarships. Much easier for the wealthy to manipulate the system even though they can out right pay for the tuition of their kids. This is a system that has been going on for decades with public and private school kids and the lacrosse community seems to embrace it because the college role it plays. Fair or not there is plenty of lacrosse for all now and there surely is a place for all levels of lacrosse.


The biggest issue is with youth sports. It is a huge advantage being a year older than most and is not in the spirit of youth athletics, It is a cancer on youth sports that no one can justify and especially now with recruiting done in soph/JR year. I have never seen as many holdbacks in lacrosse as there are now. I have been around youth/HS lacrosse for over 30 years. Frankly its seems like an epidemic as everyone knows there is a BIG advantage at youth level. Sorta sad ,

High School is still an advantage but you do have a 4 year spread to minimize it, but for many the extra year advantage carries on in JV/Varsity due to more playing time in youth.





agree for the part with the last 2 post but I clearly remember playing u9,u11,u13,for all sports growing up , meaning that 1 year I was on the younger side and year I was on the older side. Boys also always catch up to their older or even just more mature peers. Biggest , tallest and fastest doesn't always mean older. The advantage having grade based is clearly a kid never gets to be on the younger side of the coin.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/07/18 03:38 PM
When you are 16 in the 9th grade and playing against kids who haven’t even gone through puberty the advantage is HUGE. Look at the early recruits in the 2020 class from Baltimore area - the bulk of them were reclassed or pre-first or both. Last summer’s UA tournament had 18s who graduated playing as 19s because they were doing a PG year. In what other sport is gaming the system such commonplace?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/07/18 03:49 PM
Glad to see that the back of the cage crazies have calmed down after last weeks games. wink

Have a safe holiday and hug a re-classed kid. His life is rough. wink
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/07/18 05:53 PM
Club ball is almost in its dormant stages for the Winter and Spring. Alert for parents with first time high school players: Maryland private high school lacrosse has its fair share of nepotism. Some A Conference schools turn a blind eye to blatant "daddy ball" and/or nepotistic politics while others don't have this issue. Caveat emptor and hope your son is not competing against the coach's son for PT. If so, its going to be a long Spring, watching your son stand on that sideline. Trust me when I tell you, this often the proverbial "elephant in the room".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/07/18 06:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you are 16 in the 9th grade and playing against kids who haven’t even gone through puberty the advantage is HUGE. Look at the early recruits in the 2020 class from Baltimore area - the bulk of them were reclassed or pre-first or both. Last summer’s UA tournament had 18s who graduated playing as 19s because they were doing a PG year. In what other sport is gaming the system such commonplace?



College coaches LOVE these players. Bubba Fairman was older than everyone by 2 years and was dubbed the best player in the class. Guy should have been in his sophomore year in college.

STM attackmen did the 18/19 swap. Crazy but that’s what the coaches want and the players are rewarded with all the accolades.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/07/18 06:07 PM
Is the Hawks goalie a 2023?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/07/18 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you are 16 in the 9th grade and playing against kids who haven’t even gone through puberty the advantage is HUGE. Look at the early recruits in the 2020 class from Baltimore area - the bulk of them were reclassed or pre-first or both. Last summer’s UA tournament had 18s who graduated playing as 19s because they were doing a PG year. In what other sport is gaming the system such commonplace?


Hmm. Let's see. Basketball, Football, Soccer,.....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/07/18 07:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you are 16 in the 9th grade and playing against kids who haven’t even gone through puberty the advantage is HUGE. Look at the early recruits in the 2020 class from Baltimore area - the bulk of them were reclassed or pre-first or both. Last summer’s UA tournament had 18s who graduated playing as 19s because they were doing a PG year. In what other sport is gaming the system such commonplace?


Hmm. Let's see. Basketball, Football, Soccer,.....

Hilarious.. Soccer is very strict about age in classifying at single year with actual cards verifying age. ALL elite programs are like this including ALL professional team farm systems, They have do the best at keeping players going against players within an age bracket. Largest sport in world

Football has the occasional holdback to get bigger but many elite athletes are on age, Go look at any recruiting sheet on top football players ( if you have access) ALL put age on the sheet. Limited over age players. Lacrosse all put grade. LOL

Basketball?? BB did the grade thing for short while and it was a disaster. AAU is by age except in certain places. You think it is bad here ..BB went nuts with holdbacks and dialed it back to age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/07/18 09:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Club ball is almost in its dormant stages for the Winter and Spring. Alert for parents with first time high school players: Maryland private high school lacrosse has its fair share of nepotism. Some A Conference schools turn a blind eye to blatant "daddy ball" and/or nepotistic politics while others don't have this issue. Caveat emptor and hope your son is not competing against the coach's son for PT. If so, its going to be a long Spring, watching your son stand on that sideline. Trust me when I tell you, this often the proverbial "elephant in the room".


Who?? Calvert Hall has a lot of players with the same name as coach, but they seem to be good players? Who are you talking about?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/07/18 10:38 PM
STM attackmen did the 18/19 swap. Crazy but that’s what the coaches want and the players are rewarded with all the accolades.
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not true
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/08/18 03:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you are 16 in the 9th grade and playing against kids who haven’t even gone through puberty the advantage is HUGE. Look at the early recruits in the 2020 class from Baltimore area - the bulk of them were reclassed or pre-first or both. Last summer’s UA tournament had 18s who graduated playing as 19s because they were doing a PG year. In what other sport is gaming the system such commonplace?


Hmm. Let's see. Basketball, Football, Soccer,.....

Hilarious.. Soccer is very strict about age in classifying at single year with actual cards verifying age. ALL elite programs are like this including ALL professional team farm systems, They have do the best at keeping players going against players within an age bracket. Largest sport in world

Football has the occasional holdback to get bigger but many elite athletes are on age, Go look at any recruiting sheet on top football players ( if you have access) ALL put age on the sheet. Limited over age players. Lacrosse all put grade. LOL

Basketball?? BB did the grade thing for short while and it was a disaster. AAU is by age except in certain places. You think it is bad here ..BB went nuts with holdbacks and dialed it back to age.


Football has a ridiculous number of holdbacks. The percentage at top private schools for football is at least equal to lacrosse. Basketball has many as well. No clue about soccer but you saying football has limited holdbacks calls into question anything else you say.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/08/18 08:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you are 16 in the 9th grade and playing against kids who haven’t even gone through puberty the advantage is HUGE. Look at the early recruits in the 2020 class from Baltimore area - the bulk of them were reclassed or pre-first or both. Last summer’s UA tournament had 18s who graduated playing as 19s because they were doing a PG year. In what other sport is gaming the system such commonplace?


Hmm. Let's see. Basketball, Football, Soccer,.....

Hilarious.. Soccer is very strict about age in classifying at single year with actual cards verifying age. ALL elite programs are like this including ALL professional team farm systems, They have do the best at keeping players going against players within an age bracket. Largest sport in world

Football has the occasional holdback to get bigger but many elite athletes are on age, Go look at any recruiting sheet on top football players ( if you have access) ALL put age on the sheet. Limited over age players. Lacrosse all put grade. LOL

Basketball?? BB did the grade thing for short while and it was a disaster. AAU is by age except in certain places. You think it is bad here ..BB went nuts with holdbacks and dialed it back to age.


Football has a ridiculous number of holdbacks. The percentage at top private schools for football is at least equal to lacrosse. Basketball has many as well. No clue about soccer but you saying football has limited holdbacks calls into question anything else you say.


Agreed. The best QB in the area is a 2021 at Gonzaga. He's too old to finish school there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/08/18 04:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Club ball is almost in its dormant stages for the Winter and Spring. Alert for parents with first time high school players: Maryland private high school lacrosse has its fair share of nepotism. Some A Conference schools turn a blind eye to blatant "daddy ball" and/or nepotistic politics while others don't have this issue. Caveat emptor and hope your son is not competing against the coach's son for PT. If so, its going to be a long Spring, watching your son stand on that sideline. Trust me when I tell you, this often the proverbial "elephant in the room".


Who?? Calvert Hall has a lot of players with the same name as coach, but they seem to be good players? Who are you talking about?


The bad part is that the Calvert Hall coach recruits kids who are better than those that have his last name and then keeps them on the bench so other schools won't get them. He still play the kids with his last name before the others.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/08/18 04:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



Actually, somebody, (probably an "API dad") was poking fun at Hawks for losing. The follow up comment about "RR parents crying about the fowl, forcing the refs to throw flags and being soft," is probably what kicked off the donut comment, but both comments were wrong. The reality is that It was a blatant foul. Parents on EVERY team call those out, especially when a player is down on the field as a result. There were several helmet to helmet hits in the game. Hawks were getting flustered in the second half and getting physical and chippy. It happens. RR played through it and did what they needed to do. All the kids and coaches lined up and shook hands after the game with no hard feelings until BOTC. There is a shocker! As for the other antagonistic comments regarding RR "style of play and holdbacks", you are clearly just deflecting or inviting more comments and its not even remotely close by comparison. Last year, over half the RR players couldn't even jump off a springboard to hit a Hawk in the helmet. You have had the biggest team in 2022 club lacrosse for years until last Spring. During that time RR and other teams have had maybe 3-4 kids total who would be considered an average size player on the Hawks roster? The size advantage has almost completely diminished since last Spring. Learn how to lose gracefully like others did before you.


^^^



The Hawks coaches were overheard telling their team to be tougher and hit the Roughriders harder since it was apparent that their skills weren't getting the job done and they would have to result to being thugs to win.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/08/18 07:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



Actually, somebody, (probably an "API dad") was poking fun at Hawks for losing. The follow up comment about "RR parents crying about the fowl, forcing the refs to throw flags and being soft," is probably what kicked off the donut comment, but both comments were wrong. The reality is that It was a blatant foul. Parents on EVERY team call those out, especially when a player is down on the field as a result. There were several helmet to helmet hits in the game. Hawks were getting flustered in the second half and getting physical and chippy. It happens. RR played through it and did what they needed to do. All the kids and coaches lined up and shook hands after the game with no hard feelings until BOTC. There is a shocker! As for the other antagonistic comments regarding RR "style of play and holdbacks", you are clearly just deflecting or inviting more comments and its not even remotely close by comparison. Last year, over half the RR players couldn't even jump off a springboard to hit a Hawk in the helmet. You have had the biggest team in 2022 club lacrosse for years until last Spring. During that time RR and other teams have had maybe 3-4 kids total who would be considered an average size player on the Hawks roster? The size advantage has almost completely diminished since last Spring. Learn how to lose gracefully like others did before you.


^^^



The Hawks coaches were overheard telling their team to be tougher and hit the Roughriders harder since it was apparent that their skills weren't getting the job done and they would have to result to being thugs to win.

Sounds legit
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/08/18 09:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



Actually, somebody, (probably an "API dad") was poking fun at Hawks for losing. The follow up comment about "RR parents crying about the fowl, forcing the refs to throw flags and being soft," is probably what kicked off the donut comment, but both comments were wrong. The reality is that It was a blatant foul. Parents on EVERY team call those out, especially when a player is down on the field as a result. There were several helmet to helmet hits in the game. Hawks were getting flustered in the second half and getting physical and chippy. It happens. RR played through it and did what they needed to do. All the kids and coaches lined up and shook hands after the game with no hard feelings until BOTC. There is a shocker! As for the other antagonistic comments regarding RR "style of play and holdbacks", you are clearly just deflecting or inviting more comments and its not even remotely close by comparison. Last year, over half the RR players couldn't even jump off a springboard to hit a Hawk in the helmet. You have had the biggest team in 2022 club lacrosse for years until last Spring. During that time RR and other teams have had maybe 3-4 kids total who would be considered an average size player on the Hawks roster? The size advantage has almost completely diminished since last Spring. Learn how to lose gracefully like others did before you.


^^^



The Hawks coaches were overheard telling their team to be tougher and hit the Roughriders harder since it was apparent that their skills weren't getting the job done and they would have to result to being thugs to win.

Sounds legit



Thug Life !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/09/18 03:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



Actually, somebody, (probably an "API dad") was poking fun at Hawks for losing. The follow up comment about "RR parents crying about the fowl, forcing the refs to throw flags and being soft," is probably what kicked off the donut comment, but both comments were wrong. The reality is that It was a blatant foul. Parents on EVERY team call those out, especially when a player is down on the field as a result. There were several helmet to helmet hits in the game. Hawks were getting flustered in the second half and getting physical and chippy. It happens. RR played through it and did what they needed to do. All the kids and coaches lined up and shook hands after the game with no hard feelings until BOTC. There is a shocker! As for the other antagonistic comments regarding RR "style of play and holdbacks", you are clearly just deflecting or inviting more comments and its not even remotely close by comparison. Last year, over half the RR players couldn't even jump off a springboard to hit a Hawk in the helmet. You have had the biggest team in 2022 club lacrosse for years until last Spring. During that time RR and other teams have had maybe 3-4 kids total who would be considered an average size player on the Hawks roster? The size advantage has almost completely diminished since last Spring. Learn how to lose gracefully like others did before you.


^^^



The Hawks coaches were overheard telling their team to be tougher and hit the Roughriders harder since it was apparent that their skills weren't getting the job done and they would have to result to being thugs to win.

Sounds legit



Thug Life !


You guys are still letting the Hawks live in your minds. The Trump Family of lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/09/18 04:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



Actually, somebody, (probably an "API dad") was poking fun at Hawks for losing. The follow up comment about "RR parents crying about the fowl, forcing the refs to throw flags and being soft," is probably what kicked off the donut comment, but both comments were wrong. The reality is that It was a blatant foul. Parents on EVERY team call those out, especially when a player is down on the field as a result. There were several helmet to helmet hits in the game. Hawks were getting flustered in the second half and getting physical and chippy. It happens. RR played through it and did what they needed to do. All the kids and coaches lined up and shook hands after the game with no hard feelings until BOTC. There is a shocker! As for the other antagonistic comments regarding RR "style of play and holdbacks", you are clearly just deflecting or inviting more comments and its not even remotely close by comparison. Last year, over half the RR players couldn't even jump off a springboard to hit a Hawk in the helmet. You have had the biggest team in 2022 club lacrosse for years until last Spring. During that time RR and other teams have had maybe 3-4 kids total who would be considered an average size player on the Hawks roster? The size advantage has almost completely diminished since last Spring. Learn how to lose gracefully like others did before you.


^^^



The Hawks coaches were overheard telling their team to be tougher and hit the Roughriders harder since it was apparent that their skills weren't getting the job done and they would have to result to being thugs to win.

Sounds legit


So legit. I heard it too. They called the defensive call “KILL-KILL”.

Dumb right? Yup


You guys are notIntelligent wink
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/09/18 02:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you are 16 in the 9th grade and playing against kids who haven’t even gone through puberty the advantage is HUGE. Look at the early recruits in the 2020 class from Baltimore area - the bulk of them were reclassed or pre-first or both. Last summer’s UA tournament had 18s who graduated playing as 19s because they were doing a PG year. In what other sport is gaming the system such commonplace?


Hmm. Let's see. Basketball, Football, Soccer,.....

Hilarious.. Soccer is very strict about age in classifying at single year with actual cards verifying age. ALL elite programs are like this including ALL professional team farm systems, They have do the best at keeping players going against players within an age bracket. Largest sport in world

Football has the occasional holdback to get bigger but many elite athletes are on age, Go look at any recruiting sheet on top football players ( if you have access) ALL put age on the sheet. Limited over age players. Lacrosse all put grade. LOL

Basketball?? BB did the grade thing for short while and it was a disaster. AAU is by age except in certain places. You think it is bad here ..BB went nuts with holdbacks and dialed it back to age.


Football has a ridiculous number of holdbacks. The percentage at top private schools for football is at least equal to lacrosse. Basketball has many as well. No clue about soccer but you saying football has limited holdbacks calls into question anything else you say.


Agreed. The best QB in the area is a 2021 at Gonzaga. He's too old to finish school there.


You are way to centric to Maryland/DC Private schools while talking about Football, .. Go to Texas, FL, CA and other states, Once you get out of your little world of Private schools the majority of Football players ( of course not all ) are on age athletes. True athletes dont need a extra year to be competitive in HS, do some hold back, of course,,,but not the majority of top players in High school . Sorry to burst your little private school bubble, You might want to question your question. LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/10/18 01:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you are 16 in the 9th grade and playing against kids who haven’t even gone through puberty the advantage is HUGE. Look at the early recruits in the 2020 class from Baltimore area - the bulk of them were reclassed or pre-first or both. Last summer’s UA tournament had 18s who graduated playing as 19s because they were doing a PG year. In what other sport is gaming the system such commonplace?


Hmm. Let's see. Basketball, Football, Soccer,.....

Hilarious.. Soccer is very strict about age in classifying at single year with actual cards verifying age. ALL elite programs are like this including ALL professional team farm systems, They have do the best at keeping players going against players within an age bracket. Largest sport in world

Football has the occasional holdback to get bigger but many elite athletes are on age, Go look at any recruiting sheet on top football players ( if you have access) ALL put age on the sheet. Limited over age players. Lacrosse all put grade. LOL

Basketball?? BB did the grade thing for short while and it was a disaster. AAU is by age except in certain places. You think it is bad here ..BB went nuts with holdbacks and dialed it back to age.


Football has a ridiculous number of holdbacks. The percentage at top private schools for football is at least equal to lacrosse. Basketball has many as well. No clue about soccer but you saying football has limited holdbacks calls into question anything else you say.


Agreed. The best QB in the area is a 2021 at Gonzaga. He's too old to finish school there.


You are way to centric to Maryland/DC Private schools while talking about Football, .. Go to Texas, FL, CA and other states, Once you get out of your little world of Private schools the majority of Football players ( of course not all ) are on age athletes. True athletes dont need a extra year to be competitive in HS, do some hold back, of course,,,but not the majority of top players in High school . Sorry to burst your little private school bubble, You might want to question your question. LOL





Well the majority of lacrosse players are on age too. So not sure what your point is. I know from the dummies on this site that it may seem like every kid at BL, McD, CHC, Gilman, etc are a year or two older, it's just not the case.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/10/18 02:43 PM
I'm curious to know people's opinions on how the kids in Maryland stack up nationally. I see a lot of FCA, Madlax and Crabs kids at the older grades committing to high level schools. Can we expect that the kids who are stand outs among the local clubs to do the same? My observation through the last year is that there seems to be a ton of talent these days nationally, perhaps more so than even just a few years ago.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/10/18 03:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm curious to know people's opinions on how the kids in Maryland stack up nationally. I see a lot of FCA, Madlax and Crabs kids at the older grades committing to high level schools. Can we expect that the kids who are stand outs among the local clubs to do the same? My observation through the last year is that there seems to be a ton of talent these days nationally, perhaps more so than even just a few years ago.

Yes you are correct. The players are coming from more states then ever. But if you notice some of them are moving to a hot bed Private school to show they can play at the top level. So the post will say boy X from NC but keep reading it says he played high school lacrosse in MD or NY.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/10/18 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm curious to know people's opinions on how the kids in Maryland stack up nationally. I see a lot of FCA, Madlax and Crabs kids at the older grades committing to high level schools. Can we expect that the kids who are stand outs among the local clubs to do the same? My observation through the last year is that there seems to be a ton of talent these days nationally, perhaps more so than even just a few years ago.


It's definitely changing. It used to be the top 15 kids or so from Crabs may go high level D1. That's probably closer to 7 or 8 now. Same has happened on the girls side. The game has grown so much that there is a lot of talent elsewhere. Not to mention the number of clubs have spread out the talent. FCA has only existed for about 5 years for instance.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/10/18 05:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm curious to know people's opinions on how the kids in Maryland stack up nationally. I see a lot of FCA, Madlax and Crabs kids at the older grades committing to high level schools. Can we expect that the kids who are stand outs among the local clubs to do the same? My observation through the last year is that there seems to be a ton of talent these days nationally, perhaps more so than even just a few years ago.


Yes, local players make up a much smaller percentage of the top 10-20 starting rosters or D1 AA lists than in the past. Athletes are bigger and faster and the game is less parochial than before. You will see more Mid-Atlantic (MIAA) kids on a percentage basis at the starting keeper and attack positions than midfield and D as the the latter positions are dominated by the tall and fast athletes less dependent on lax IQ and years of experience.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/11/18 03:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you are 16 in the 9th grade and playing against kids who haven’t even gone through puberty the advantage is HUGE. Look at the early recruits in the 2020 class from Baltimore area - the bulk of them were reclassed or pre-first or both. Last summer’s UA tournament had 18s who graduated playing as 19s because they were doing a PG year. In what other sport is gaming the system such commonplace?

Hmm. Let's see. Basketball, Football, Soccer,.....
Hilarious.. Soccer is very strict about age in classifying at single year with actual cards verifying age. ALL elite programs are like this including ALL professional team farm systems, They have do the best at keeping players going against players within an age bracket. Largest sport in world

Football has the occasional holdback to get bigger but many elite athletes are on age, Go look at any recruiting sheet on top football players ( if you have access) ALL put age on the sheet. Limited over age players. Lacrosse all put grade. LOL

Basketball?? BB did the grade thing for short while and it was a disaster. AAU is by age except in certain places. You think it is bad here ..BB went nuts with holdbacks and dialed it back to age.

Football has a ridiculous number of holdbacks. The percentage at top private schools for football is at least equal to lacrosse. Basketball has many as well. No clue about soccer but you saying football has limited holdbacks calls into question anything else you say.

Agreed. The best QB in the area is a 2021 at Gonzaga. He's too old to finish school there.


You are way to centric to Maryland/DC Private schools while talking about Football, .. Go to Texas, FL, CA and other states, Once you get out of your little world of Private schools the majority of Football players ( of course not all ) are on age athletes. True athletes dont need a extra year to be competitive in HS, do some hold back, of course,,,but not the majority of top players in High school . Sorry to burst your little private school bubble, You might want to question your question. LOL



Well the majority of lacrosse players are on age too. So not sure what your point is. I know from the dummies on this site that it may seem like every kid at BL, McD, CHC, Gilman, etc are a year or two older, it's just not the case.


We are talking about top players in MD. As a percentage of top lacrosse players.... MD and its world of private schools are over the top with holdbacks, not even close to any other state besides pockets of NE Private school areas.

As far as every other child at these schools ?? Probably not, but the smaller ones with grades 1-12 are loaded such as McD and BL, CHC student body doesn't have as many as it is only 9-12.

Look at youth lacrosse. Majority of holdbacks are either in private or going after being held back. Years ago even in McD, BL, etc there were only so many holdbacks. You can claim and spin any way you want, but there has been an explosion in holdbacks/prefirst/reclass in last 5 -10 years and it is clear to see.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/12/18 03:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you are 16 in the 9th grade and playing against kids who haven’t even gone through puberty the advantage is HUGE. Look at the early recruits in the 2020 class from Baltimore area - the bulk of them were reclassed or pre-first or both. Last summer’s UA tournament had 18s who graduated playing as 19s because they were doing a PG year. In what other sport is gaming the system such commonplace?

Hmm. Let's see. Basketball, Football, Soccer,.....
Hilarious.. Soccer is very strict about age in classifying at single year with actual cards verifying age. ALL elite programs are like this including ALL professional team farm systems, They have do the best at keeping players going against players within an age bracket. Largest sport in world

Football has the occasional holdback to get bigger but many elite athletes are on age, Go look at any recruiting sheet on top football players ( if you have access) ALL put age on the sheet. Limited over age players. Lacrosse all put grade. LOL

Basketball?? BB did the grade thing for short while and it was a disaster. AAU is by age except in certain places. You think it is bad here ..BB went nuts with holdbacks and dialed it back to age.

Football has a ridiculous number of holdbacks. The percentage at top private schools for football is at least equal to lacrosse. Basketball has many as well. No clue about soccer but you saying football has limited holdbacks calls into question anything else you say.

Agreed. The best QB in the area is a 2021 at Gonzaga. He's too old to finish school there.


You are way to centric to Maryland/DC Private schools while talking about Football, .. Go to Texas, FL, CA and other states, Once you get out of your little world of Private schools the majority of Football players ( of course not all ) are on age athletes. True athletes dont need a extra year to be competitive in HS, do some hold back, of course,,,but not the majority of top players in High school . Sorry to burst your little private school bubble, You might want to question your question. LOL



Well the majority of lacrosse players are on age too. So not sure what your point is. I know from the dummies on this site that it may seem like every kid at BL, McD, CHC, Gilman, etc are a year or two older, it's just not the case.


We are talking about top players in MD. As a percentage of top lacrosse players.... MD and its world of private schools are over the top with holdbacks, not even close to any other state besides pockets of NE Private school areas.

As far as every other child at these schools ?? Probably not, but the smaller ones with grades 1-12 are loaded such as McD and BL, CHC student body doesn't have as many as it is only 9-12.

Look at youth lacrosse. Majority of holdbacks are either in private or going after being held back. Years ago even in McD, BL, etc there were only so many holdbacks. You can claim and spin any way you want, but there has been an explosion in holdbacks/prefirst/reclass in last 5 -10 years and it is clear to see.



Looking at the Tewaaraton Watch list from last year.
8 kids from Long Island, 8 kids from Maryland, and 8 kids from Ontario.
6 kids from Philly
4 kids from Connecticut
3 kids from New Jersey
2 kids from Callifornia, 2 from Massachusettes, and 2 from BC.

More kids from other areas are playing, but the top kids are still from the hotbeds.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/12/18 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When you are 16 in the 9th grade and playing against kids who haven’t even gone through puberty the advantage is HUGE. Look at the early recruits in the 2020 class from Baltimore area - the bulk of them were reclassed or pre-first or both. Last summer’s UA tournament had 18s who graduated playing as 19s because they were doing a PG year. In what other sport is gaming the system such commonplace?

Hmm. Let's see. Basketball, Football, Soccer,.....
Hilarious.. Soccer is very strict about age in classifying at single year with actual cards verifying age. ALL elite programs are like this including ALL professional team farm systems, They have do the best at keeping players going against players within an age bracket. Largest sport in world

Football has the occasional holdback to get bigger but many elite athletes are on age, Go look at any recruiting sheet on top football players ( if you have access) ALL put age on the sheet. Limited over age players. Lacrosse all put grade. LOL

Basketball?? BB did the grade thing for short while and it was a disaster. AAU is by age except in certain places. You think it is bad here ..BB went nuts with holdbacks and dialed it back to age.

Football has a ridiculous number of holdbacks. The percentage at top private schools for football is at least equal to lacrosse. Basketball has many as well. No clue about soccer but you saying football has limited holdbacks calls into question anything else you say.

Agreed. The best QB in the area is a 2021 at Gonzaga. He's too old to finish school there.


You are way to centric to Maryland/DC Private schools while talking about Football, .. Go to Texas, FL, CA and other states, Once you get out of your little world of Private schools the majority of Football players ( of course not all ) are on age athletes. True athletes dont need a extra year to be competitive in HS, do some hold back, of course,,,but not the majority of top players in High school . Sorry to burst your little private school bubble, You might want to question your question. LOL



Well the majority of lacrosse players are on age too. So not sure what your point is. I know from the dummies on this site that it may seem like every kid at BL, McD, CHC, Gilman, etc are a year or two older, it's just not the case.


We are talking about top players in MD. As a percentage of top lacrosse players.... MD and its world of private schools are over the top with holdbacks, not even close to any other state besides pockets of NE Private school areas.

As far as every other child at these schools ?? Probably not, but the smaller ones with grades 1-12 are loaded such as McD and BL, CHC student body doesn't have as many as it is only 9-12.

Look at youth lacrosse. Majority of holdbacks are either in private or going after being held back. Years ago even in McD, BL, etc there were only so many holdbacks. You can claim and spin any way you want, but there has been an explosion in holdbacks/prefirst/reclass in last 5 -10 years and it is clear to see.



Looking at the Tewaaraton Watch list from last year.
8 kids from Long Island, 8 kids from Maryland, and 8 kids from Ontario.
6 kids from Philly
4 kids from Connecticut
3 kids from New Jersey
2 kids from Callifornia, 2 from Massachusettes, and 2 from BC.

More kids from other areas are playing, but the top kids are still from the hotbeds.


I think this helps prove the Lacrosse IQ along with playing top competition is what puts the best on top. They are all great athletes from all the states but knowing the game and developing your game along side 19 other really good smart players during games is what makes a great lacrosse player. But I think this is true for all team sports
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/12/18 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm curious to know people's opinions on how the kids in Maryland stack up nationally. I see a lot of FCA, Madlax and Crabs kids at the older grades committing to high level schools. Can we expect that the kids who are stand outs among the local clubs to do the same? My observation through the last year is that there seems to be a ton of talent these days nationally, perhaps more so than even just a few years ago.


Yes, local players make up a much smaller percentage of the top 10-20 starting rosters or D1 AA lists than in the past. Athletes are bigger and faster and the game is less parochial than before. You will see more Mid-Atlantic (MIAA) kids on a percentage basis at the starting keeper and attack positions than midfield and D as the the latter positions are dominated by the tall and fast athletes less dependent on lax IQ and years of experience.


It also doesn’t help that these days a number of club coaches are more about their ‘brand’ then the kids they coach. Look at 91MD. That guy never misses a chance to promote himself. It’s all about look at me when I played 20 years ago instead of look at the kids I coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/12/18 05:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm curious to know people's opinions on how the kids in Maryland stack up nationally. I see a lot of FCA, Madlax and Crabs kids at the older grades committing to high level schools. Can we expect that the kids who are stand outs among the local clubs to do the same? My observation through the last year is that there seems to be a ton of talent these days nationally, perhaps more so than even just a few years ago.


Yes, local players make up a much smaller percentage of the top 10-20 starting rosters or D1 AA lists than in the past. Athletes are bigger and faster and the game is less parochial than before. You will see more Mid-Atlantic (MIAA) kids on a percentage basis at the starting keeper and attack positions than midfield and D as the the latter positions are dominated by the tall and fast athletes less dependent on lax IQ and years of experience.


It also doesn’t help that these days a number of club coaches are more about their ‘brand’ then the kids they coach. Look at 91MD. That guy never misses a chance to promote himself. It’s all about look at me when I played 20 years ago instead of look at the kids I coach.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic being discussed. That coach got his players into some elite high schools where they'll continue to grow their game and lax IQ. Some of these other clubs do very little to promote their players. I'll take a narcissistic donk who works for his players any day.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/12/18 06:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm curious to know people's opinions on how the kids in Maryland stack up nationally. I see a lot of FCA, Madlax and Crabs kids at the older grades committing to high level schools. Can we expect that the kids who are stand outs among the local clubs to do the same? My observation through the last year is that there seems to be a ton of talent these days nationally, perhaps more so than even just a few years ago.


Yes, local players make up a much smaller percentage of the top 10-20 starting rosters or D1 AA lists than in the past. Athletes are bigger and faster and the game is less parochial than before. You will see more Mid-Atlantic (MIAA) kids on a percentage basis at the starting keeper and attack positions than midfield and D as the the latter positions are dominated by the tall and fast athletes less dependent on lax IQ and years of experience.


It also doesn’t help that these days a number of club coaches are more about their ‘brand’ then the kids they coach. Look at 91MD. That guy never misses a chance to promote himself. It’s all about look at me when I played 20 years ago instead of look at the kids I coach.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic being discussed. That coach got his players into some elite high schools where they'll continue to grow their game and lax IQ. Some of these other clubs do very little to promote their players. I'll take a narcissistic donk who works for his players any day.




Say what you want about the guy- He has been teaching and developing lacrosse for 25 years , way before club lacrosse and way before the racket the sport has become with clubs, tournaments , individual coaching and training. The whole look at me is exactly what he needs to do to promote his camps all over the country to families who can careless about what club he is associated with. Lacrosse is how he provides for his family. There is plenty of things we can call him and many things he lacks but his BRAND is what feeds his family and has been doing it for a long time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/12/18 06:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm curious to know people's opinions on how the kids in Maryland stack up nationally. I see a lot of FCA, Madlax and Crabs kids at the older grades committing to high level schools. Can we expect that the kids who are stand outs among the local clubs to do the same? My observation through the last year is that there seems to be a ton of talent these days nationally, perhaps more so than even just a few years ago.


Yes, local players make up a much smaller percentage of the top 10-20 starting rosters or D1 AA lists than in the past. Athletes are bigger and faster and the game is less parochial than before. You will see more Mid-Atlantic (MIAA) kids on a percentage basis at the starting keeper and attack positions than midfield and D as the the latter positions are dominated by the tall and fast athletes less dependent on lax IQ and years of experience.


It also doesn’t help that these days a number of club coaches are more about their ‘brand’ then the kids they coach. Look at 91MD. That guy never misses a chance to promote himself. It’s all about look at me when I played 20 years ago instead of look at the kids I coach.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic being discussed. That coach got his players into some elite high schools where they'll continue to grow their game and lax IQ. Some of these other clubs do very little to promote their players. I'll take a narcissistic donk who works for his players any day.




Say what you want about the guy- He has been teaching and developing lacrosse for 25 years , way before club lacrosse and way before the racket the sport has become with clubs, tournaments , individual coaching and training. The whole look at me is exactly what he needs to do to promote his camps all over the country to families who can careless about what club he is associated with. Lacrosse is how he provides for his family. There is plenty of things we can call him and many things he lacks but his BRAND is what feeds his family and has been doing it for a long time.


While you may not like his style and approach, there are few who know the game better or love the game more than him. He's a passionate coach and aside from his tendency to "hover" over his own (this is his Achilles heal), I like the way he prepares, practices and coaches the game. Compared to many of the out of shape know nothings or email loving blowhards in the sport (everyone knows who these phonies are), this guy has played and more importantly coached successfully at the sport's highest levels.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/12/18 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm curious to know people's opinions on how the kids in Maryland stack up nationally. I see a lot of FCA, Madlax and Crabs kids at the older grades committing to high level schools. Can we expect that the kids who are stand outs among the local clubs to do the same? My observation through the last year is that there seems to be a ton of talent these days nationally, perhaps more so than even just a few years ago.


Yes, local players make up a much smaller percentage of the top 10-20 starting rosters or D1 AA lists than in the past. Athletes are bigger and faster and the game is less parochial than before. You will see more Mid-Atlantic (MIAA) kids on a percentage basis at the starting keeper and attack positions than midfield and D as the the latter positions are dominated by the tall and fast athletes less dependent on lax IQ and years of experience.


It also doesn’t help that these days a number of club coaches are more about their ‘brand’ then the kids they coach. Look at 91MD. That guy never misses a chance to promote himself. It’s all about look at me when I played 20 years ago instead of look at the kids I coach.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic being discussed. That coach got his players into some elite high schools where they'll continue to grow their game and lax IQ. Some of these other clubs do very little to promote their players. I'll take a narcissistic donk who works for his players any day.




Say what you want about the guy- He has been teaching and developing lacrosse for 25 years , way before club lacrosse and way before the racket the sport has become with clubs, tournaments , individual coaching and training. The whole look at me is exactly what he needs to do to promote his camps all over the country to families who can careless about what club he is associated with. Lacrosse is how he provides for his family. There is plenty of things we can call him and many things he lacks but his BRAND is what feeds his family and has been doing it for a long time.


Thanks Mark ! Nice speech.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/12/18 10:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm curious to know people's opinions on how the kids in Maryland stack up nationally. I see a lot of FCA, Madlax and Crabs kids at the older grades committing to high level schools. Can we expect that the kids who are stand outs among the local clubs to do the same? My observation through the last year is that there seems to be a ton of talent these days nationally, perhaps more so than even just a few years ago.


Yes, local players make up a much smaller percentage of the top 10-20 starting rosters or D1 AA lists than in the past. Athletes are bigger and faster and the game is less parochial than before. You will see more Mid-Atlantic (MIAA) kids on a percentage basis at the starting keeper and attack positions than midfield and D as the the latter positions are dominated by the tall and fast athletes less dependent on lax IQ and years of experience.


It also doesn’t help that these days a number of club coaches are more about their ‘brand’ then the kids they coach. Look at 91MD. That guy never misses a chance to promote himself. It’s all about look at me when I played 20 years ago instead of look at the kids I coach.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic being discussed. That coach got his players into some elite high schools where they'll continue to grow their game and lax IQ. Some of these other clubs do very little to promote their players. I'll take a narcissistic donk who works for his players any day.




Say what you want about the guy- He has been teaching and developing lacrosse for 25 years , way before club lacrosse and way before the racket the sport has become with clubs, tournaments , individual coaching and training. The whole look at me is exactly what he needs to do to promote his camps all over the country to families who can careless about what club he is associated with. Lacrosse is how he provides for his family. There is plenty of things we can call him and many things he lacks but his BRAND is what feeds his family and has been doing it for a long time.


While you may not like his style and approach, there are few who know the game better or love the game more than him. He's a passionate coach and aside from his tendency to "hover" over his own (this is his Achilles heal), I like the way he prepares, practices and coaches the game. Compared to many of the out of shape know nothings or email loving blowhards in the sport (everyone knows who these phonies are), this guy has played and more importantly coached successfully at the sport's highest levels.

What highest level coaching are you referring to? Gilman JV?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/12/18 11:19 PM
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/13/18 12:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?

Doesn’t say much.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/13/18 04:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?



Who are these 2 players? Would love to compare as an outsider and not the players dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/13/18 04:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?



It's called real life dad. Best your son learn it now in sports than later in the real world when the bills are rolling in and he's got three screaming kids at the house.

Nobody cares that your kid hung around and worked hard for 5 years or that for <insert reason> you choose to not re-class him and level his playing field. It's all about what have you done for us lately and how he stacks up to the big horse that just came on the scene. Fairness has no bearing on anything here or in real life off the field.

Groom your son for that...mental toughness, intestinal fortitude and perseverance in the face of adversity. If he has that, can roll with the punches and continue working even harder vice crumbling like a corn chip....he WILL see success...nobody will be able to deny him that.

He looks to YOU and how YOU react, what YOU say in all of this. If all you do is whine and make excuses....such will be his lot in life. Don't do it....for his sake.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/13/18 04:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?



Who are these 2 players? Would love to compare as an outsider and not the players dad.



All players need to learn to continue to compete at all tryouts even when they have been a part of a team for many years. If a player makes a team and is the last one on the depth chart and knows that, then he needs to work hard to move up the depth chart during the course of the season or they will open themselves up to be replaced. It’s simple, make a difference when you are on the field and make it difficult for the coach to replace you.

Competitive club teams will always have new players show up to tryouts and they will take your kids spot if he doesn’t make a difference.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/13/18 10:31 AM
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I'm curious to know people's opinions on how the kids in Maryland stack up nationally. I see a lot of FCA, Madlax and Crabs kids at the older grades committing to high level schools. Can we expect that the kids who are stand outs among the local clubs to do the same? My observation through the last year is that there seems to be a ton of talent these days nationally, perhaps more so than even just a few years ago.


Yes, local players make up a much smaller percentage of the top 10-20 starting rosters or D1 AA lists than in the past. Athletes are bigger and faster and the game is less parochial than before. You will see more Mid-Atlantic (MIAA) kids on a percentage basis at the starting keeper and attack positions than midfield and D as the the latter positions are dominated by the tall and fast athletes less dependent on lax IQ and years of experience.


It also doesn’t help that these days a number of club coaches are more about their ‘brand’ then the kids they coach. Look at 91MD. That guy never misses a chance to promote himself. It’s all about look at me when I played 20 years ago instead of look at the kids I coach.


MM is ALWAYS shopping positions to upgrade. No loyalty or development to the players he chooses each year. If he can replace a player tomorrow(literally) with a better, more athletic player he will. He will use that players dues to make it more cost effective for an out of state players commute. That is how the team was built and why there has been so much turn-over. Its all about the wins and "look at how awesome of a coach I am for winning". Then posts a big old team selfie where his block head covers half the team. Parents and players that get away from that guy live a much happier, less complicated life afterwards. #family #development #BS
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/13/18 10:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?



Who are these 2 players? Would love to compare as an outsider and not the players dad.



All players need to learn to continue to compete at all tryouts even when they have been a part of a team for many years. If a player makes a team and is the last one on the depth chart and knows that, then he needs to work hard to move up the depth chart during the course of the season or they will open themselves up to be replaced. It’s simple, make a difference when you are on the field and make it difficult for the coach to replace you.

Competitive club teams will always have new players show up to tryouts and they will take your kids spot if he doesn’t make a difference.


I think the difference in the arguments is not about the tryouts at all, it is about coaches who fly players in from out of state that they find during their camps, who rarely practice with the team and those players continually take another players spot who has been practicing at all the practices and was chosen by the coach during tryouts. Coaches that add to the roster in the middle of the season because a player they chose is not as developed or physically mature as they were hoping for. What High School and College "high level coaches" have that luxury? It is the bad part of club lacrosse that some of these guys bring to the game! You can call that player development, but it is nothing more than opportunistic! It is ALL about "brand" marketing via fielding a team full of the most mature athletes the country has to offer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/13/18 11:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?



Who are these 2 players? Would love to compare as an outsider and not the players dad.



All players need to learn to continue to compete at all tryouts even when they have been a part of a team for many years. If a player makes a team and is the last one on the depth chart and knows that, then he needs to work hard to move up the depth chart during the course of the season or they will open themselves up to be replaced. It’s simple, make a difference when you are on the field and make it difficult for the coach to replace you.

Competitive club teams will always have new players show up to tryouts and they will take your kids spot if he doesn’t make a difference.

And if the kid gets replaced because the coach wants to do a buddy a favor and it has nothing to do with skill, just walk away quietly knowing you are better off having revealed the true character of the coach. You should have known from the behavior of the other guy, the goalie coach, that it’s their program and your kid plays or doesn’t play based on what side of the bed they woke up on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/13/18 12:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?



Who are these 2 players? Would love to compare as an outsider and not the players dad.



All players need to learn to continue to compete at all tryouts even when they have been a part of a team for many years. If a player makes a team and is the last one on the depth chart and knows that, then he needs to work hard to move up the depth chart during the course of the season or they will open themselves up to be replaced. It’s simple, make a difference when you are on the field and make it difficult for the coach to replace you.

Competitive club teams will always have new players show up to tryouts and they will take your kids spot if he doesn’t make a difference.


I think the difference in the arguments is not about the tryouts at all, it is about coaches who fly players in from out of state that they find during their camps, who rarely practice with the team and those players continually take another players spot who has been practicing at all the practices and was chosen by the coach during tryouts. Coaches that add to the roster in the middle of the season because a player they chose is not as developed or physically mature as they were hoping for. What High School and College "high level coaches" have that luxury? It is the bad part of club lacrosse that some of these guys bring to the game! You can call that player development, but it is nothing more than opportunistic! It is ALL about "brand" marketing via fielding a team full of the most mature athletes the country has to offer.


No one should have an issue with a team adding kids through the tryout process. From my perspective, when you set your roster just after tryouts, it needs to be a two way commitment between the coach and the kids. A coach adding players after tryouts, sends a horrible message (win at all cost & it's all about me). Set a roster in August so the kids know who they are competing against day in and day out, and don't undermine that commitment by bringing other kids in during the season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/13/18 01:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?



Who are these 2 players? Would love to compare as an outsider and not the players dad.



All players need to learn to continue to compete at all tryouts even when they have been a part of a team for many years. If a player makes a team and is the last one on the depth chart and knows that, then he needs to work hard to move up the depth chart during the course of the season or they will open themselves up to be replaced. It’s simple, make a difference when you are on the field and make it difficult for the coach to replace you.

Competitive club teams will always have new players show up to tryouts and they will take your kids spot if he doesn’t make a difference.


I think the difference in the arguments is not about the tryouts at all, it is about coaches who fly players in from out of state that they find during their camps, who rarely practice with the team and those players continually take another players spot who has been practicing at all the practices and was chosen by the coach during tryouts. Coaches that add to the roster in the middle of the season because a player they chose is not as developed or physically mature as they were hoping for. What High School and College "high level coaches" have that luxury? It is the bad part of club lacrosse that some of these guys bring to the game! You can call that player development, but it is nothing more than opportunistic! It is ALL about "brand" marketing via fielding a team full of the most mature athletes the country has to offer.


No one should have an issue with a team adding kids through the tryout process. From my perspective, when you set your roster just after tryouts, it needs to be a two way commitment between the coach and the kids. A coach adding players after tryouts, sends a horrible message (win at all cost & it's all about me). Set a roster in August so the kids know who they are competing against day in and day out, and don't undermine that commitment by bringing other kids in during the season.

I think the only way you should be able to bring on new players is when you have a "National team" Meaning you have a team from tryouts and have 3 or 4 tournaments. Then if you want to add players to this group, you should rename the team and play under this name in a additional tournament. That way everyone knows the deal.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/13/18 06:08 PM
Or just be honest with the families and players by saying kids could be added throughout the year but the current roster stays on til the next tryout whether it's 6 or 12 months away. If my family had to move or it was a terrible team situation, it would stink to tell a kid he can't join another team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/13/18 09:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?



Who are these 2 players? Would love to compare as an outsider and not the players dad.


Hypothetically:
You are a club owner and/or coach.
You have trained and developed a kid to perfectly reflect your mold and he does everything asked and performs great on the field.
You have to choose between the kid you developed and a new kid who may be older, but not much difference in size or skill.
Do you go with the new kid or stick with the kid you developed?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/13/18 10:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?



Who are these 2 players? Would love to compare as an outsider and not the players dad.


Hypothetically:
You are a club owner and/or coach.
You have trained and developed a kid to perfectly reflect your mold and he does everything asked and performs great on the field.
You have to choose between the kid you developed and a new kid who may be older, but not much difference in size or skill.
Do you go with the new kid or stick with the kid you developed?




Do you work in media? This is a very leading and poorly framed hypothetical used to try to prove a point you think you already have an opinion on. The issue is your framing of "not much difference in size or skill." If there were truly not much or no difference the player who knows the O and D would be the clear choice. IQ is the most important trait in this game. However, coaches see differences that parents can't. Therefore when they bring in a new player they do see a difference. Size can be overrated but not IQ and skill. Coaches, like MM know gamers when they see them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/14/18 01:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?



Who are these 2 players? Would love to compare as an outsider and not the players dad.


Hypothetically:
You are a club owner and/or coach.
You have trained and developed a kid to perfectly reflect your mold and he does everything asked and performs great on the field.
You have to choose between the kid you developed and a new kid who may be older, but not much difference in size or skill.
Do you go with the new kid or stick with the kid you developed?




Do you work in media? This is a very leading and poorly framed hypothetical used to try to prove a point you think you already have an opinion on. The issue is your framing of "not much difference in size or skill." If there were truly not much or no difference the player who knows the O and D would be the clear choice. IQ is the most important trait in this game. However, coaches see differences that parents can't. Therefore when they bring in a new player they do see a difference. Size can be overrated but not IQ and skill. Coaches, like MM know gamers when they see them.

Not a MM situation we’re talking about. I agree MM knows talent when he sees it. Then he buys talent a plane ticket and tells the local kid to not bother showing up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/14/18 04:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?



Who are these 2 players? Would love to compare as an outsider and not the players dad.


Hypothetically:
You are a club owner and/or coach.
You have trained and developed a kid to perfectly reflect your mold and he does everything asked and performs great on the field.
You have to choose between the kid you developed and a new kid who may be older, but not much difference in size or skill.
Do you go with the new kid or stick with the kid you developed?




Do you work in media? This is a very leading and poorly framed hypothetical used to try to prove a point you think you already have an opinion on. The issue is your framing of "not much difference in size or skill." If there were truly not much or no difference the player who knows the O and D would be the clear choice. IQ is the most important trait in this game. However, coaches see differences that parents can't. Therefore when they bring in a new player they do see a difference. Size can be overrated but not IQ and skill. Coaches, like MM know gamers when they see them.


What if the difference is that the parents of the holdback are more connected in the lacrosse and business community?

Do you as the coach or club owner admit your years of development of a kid into the player you want is not as important as gaining a business or lacrosse connection?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/14/18 06:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]So if a club is great at developing players, what does it say about that club if they develop a kid who bought in to the system and did everything asked of him for 5 years, but then is cut for a hold-back who not even marginally better?



Who are these 2 players? Would love to compare as an outsider and not the players dad.


Hypothetically:
You are a club owner and/or coach.
You have trained and developed a kid to perfectly reflect your mold and he does everything asked and performs great on the field.
You have to choose between the kid you developed and a new kid who may be older, but not much difference in size or skill.
Do you go with the new kid or stick with the kid you developed?




Do you work in media? This is a very leading and poorly framed hypothetical used to try to prove a point you think you already have an opinion on. The issue is your framing of "not much difference in size or skill." If there were truly not much or no difference the player who knows the O and D would be the clear choice. IQ is the most important trait in this game. However, coaches see differences that parents can't. Therefore when they bring in a new player they do see a difference. Size can be overrated but not IQ and skill. Coaches, like MM know gamers when they see them.


What if the difference is that the parents of the holdback are more connected in the lacrosse and business community?

Do you as the coach or club owner admit your years of development of a kid into the player you want is not as important as gaining a business or lacrosse connection?


Well if the club helped your son become a better lacrosse player that is what you paid for. The playing time and who plays where and when is up to the coach that day. The clubs job is to make your son a good lacrosse player. If he is not playing in games take him and his skills to another club or to showcases / prospect days. Or even better take him to high school tryouts this spring and see him make the team. This age group parents will talk about a lot of new things this time 12 months from today.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/15/18 06:09 PM
My son was passed over at an early age. The team was one he had been on a year prior, they were very young, had only played a year together but had promise to be the best. (Travel is now over so all of this is easier to see). That first year coaches were great, you saw then these kids would all 99% play HS at an elite level and go on from there.

Unfortunately my sons spot was "given" to a political/financial/influential kid. The kid was a hold back and Not from the area nor a stud by any factor.

The boy always found his way onto the "all-star" team's. Never really played but his name was there.

My son used it as a driving factor, he remain friendly with the boys families and coaches (decision was an organization thing). He always played for another team and his friends from the first team would always watch in joy, parents would cheer for him. High school games were always a pleasure seeing the families. I don't even think the other boys school had lacrosse. most boys from that first team moved on to the areas other team, some because of favors holdbacks, but they were all on top teams (maybe top 1/2/3) in the country

One day, I received an email, from a parent from that team, (. Many of us dads had been talking a week prior at an event. We said it was a shame the boys never stayed together. I said yeah, but it sure worked out for us, didn't it. The next day I got the email, the email listed about 10 prestigious high profile things the dad was involved with in the sport of lacrosse. Each one detailing how he bought his sons way onto things.

Our Boys High school years are over, I admitt I hate the dad/family, who took my son's spot. But never the kid. my son felt no ill will to the kid. He felt sorry for him.

Both boys were "recruited" one because of the silver spoon one because of the blue collar. Was told the boys committed play day last year his talent was a exposed. Let's see how these next few years will be
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/15/18 06:11 PM
Things work out.
Have fun protect your kid let him experience things.
You're his advocate always.
You owe no one anything
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/16/18 12:45 AM
That is why I try to help out as much as I can as a dad. It really helps my kid rose to the top of the pile regardless of his attitude, talent or effort. If you had worked harder as a dad maybe your kid could have made all star teams too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/17/18 02:04 PM
Exactly. Some people will always pave the way for their kid - hovering like helicopters . They will mow down anyone or anything that gets in their kid's way, they will make sure their kid makes every team and has every advantage. But it only works for so long. Because eventually the kid will be on a team that dad and mom can't control. Everyone sees it. Even the kid knows it. And the message being sent to the kid? I don't really think you're good enough -- so I have to do this for you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/17/18 05:12 PM
I hope the boys, who are now high school age, don't read this stuff. I'm older and my kids are pretty good, but not going to Hopkins to play lacrosse, but hopefully it will help get into a school HE wants to go to.. You DAD's that work real hard for your kid, get a life and save money for college. If you guys hate MM so much, go play for some other team, wait a minute, your not playing your kid is. Why not ask him who he wants to play for. Hold backs should only be for education. Your sons probably like there classmates and will miss them, unless they are already as crazy as you. Have some fun. I waste my money just like you on clubs. They have way to many now. First year of High School is tough enough on the boys, lighten up Francis.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/17/18 06:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope the boys, who are now high school age, don't read this stuff. I'm older and my kids are pretty good, but not going to Hopkins to play lacrosse, but hopefully it will help get into a school HE wants to go to.. You DAD's that work real hard for your kid, get a life and save money for college. If you guys hate MM so much, go play for some other team, wait a minute, your not playing your kid is. Why not ask him who he wants to play for. Hold backs should only be for education. Your sons probably like there classmates and will miss them, unless they are already as crazy as you. Have some fun. I waste my money just like you on clubs. They have way to many now. First year of High School is tough enough on the boys, lighten up Francis.

Your grammar is embarrassing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/21/18 03:38 AM
Whats the deal with the Dukes 2022 lacrosse team? Does anyone know how they work? Can you play with your current club team and them? Are they still looking for players?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/21/18 03:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats the deal with the Dukes 2022 lacrosse team? Does anyone know how they work? Can you play with your current club team and them? Are they still looking for players?


Depends on what position you play. My son is a defender so as far as I am concerned that position is full. But I definitely think we need help on offense. If your son can score please reach out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/21/18 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats the deal with the Dukes 2022 lacrosse team? Does anyone know how they work? Can you play with your current club team and them? Are they still looking for players?


Depends on what position you play. My son is a defender so as far as I am concerned that position is full. But I definitely think we need help on offense. If your son can score please reach out.

Dukes Nationals stops at 8th grade. The 2022 Dukes are just another club team with some out of state kids sprinkled in.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/21/18 04:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats the deal with the Dukes 2022 lacrosse team? Does anyone know how they work? Can you play with your current club team and them? Are they still looking for players?


Depends on what position you play. My son is a defender so as far as I am concerned that position is full. But I definitely think we need help on offense. If your son can score please reach out.

Dukes Nationals stops at 8th grade. The 2022 Dukes are just another club team with some out of state kids sprinkled in.



So that team doesn’t let players just play when they are available anymore? Who is the main contact?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/21/18 04:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope the boys, who are now high school age, don't read this stuff. I'm older and my kids are pretty good, but not going to Hopkins to play lacrosse, but hopefully it will help get into a school HE wants to go to.. You DAD's that work real hard for your kid, get a life and save money for college. If you guys hate MM so much, go play for some other team, wait a minute, your not playing your kid is. Why not ask him who he wants to play for. Hold backs should only be for education. Your sons probably like there classmates and will miss them, unless they are already as crazy as you. Have some fun. I waste my money just like you on clubs. They have way to many now. First year of High School is tough enough on the boys, lighten up Francis.


I've written multiple checks to Millon. My son wanted to attend his camps - he believed the instruction was useful and the camps were generally well run. That ended last year after some of the things Millon said to my son at a camp - along the lines that my son should quit lacrosse. Which is funny since my son was invited to play on 91MD during one of Millon's camps. As my son put it: Millon is just an butt sometimes. I'm sure my son would still get benefit from some of the camps, but why support Millon when there are so many great alternatives? Ultimately, I left it to my son and he decided to avoid Millon camps and teams going forward.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/21/18 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope the boys, who are now high school age, don't read this stuff. I'm older and my kids are pretty good, but not going to Hopkins to play lacrosse, but hopefully it will help get into a school HE wants to go to.. You DAD's that work real hard for your kid, get a life and save money for college. If you guys hate MM so much, go play for some other team, wait a minute, your not playing your kid is. Why not ask him who he wants to play for. Hold backs should only be for education. Your sons probably like there classmates and will miss them, unless they are already as crazy as you. Have some fun. I waste my money just like you on clubs. They have way to many now. First year of High School is tough enough on the boys, lighten up Francis.


I've written multiple checks to Millon. My son wanted to attend his camps - he believed the instruction was useful and the camps were generally well run. That ended last year after some of the things Millon said to my son at a camp - along the lines that my son should quit lacrosse. Which is funny since my son was invited to play on 91MD during one of Millon's camps. As my son put it: Millon is just an butt sometimes. I'm sure my son would still get benefit from some of the camps, but why support Millon when there are so many great alternatives? Ultimately, I left it to my son and he decided to avoid Millon camps and teams going forward.

Dumb question but do you really write checks?? Who does that anymore? I have heard many coaches use different tactics to motivate players. Telling them they should quit does not really mean that. After all, does he not want more of your checks? I am sure he was motivating the kids. May not be for all kids but he has coached for a long time. There is something to it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/21/18 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope the boys, who are now high school age, don't read this stuff. I'm older and my kids are pretty good, but not going to Hopkins to play lacrosse, but hopefully it will help get into a school HE wants to go to.. You DAD's that work real hard for your kid, get a life and save money for college. If you guys hate MM so much, go play for some other team, wait a minute, your not playing your kid is. Why not ask him who he wants to play for. Hold backs should only be for education. Your sons probably like there classmates and will miss them, unless they are already as crazy as you. Have some fun. I waste my money just like you on clubs. They have way to many now. First year of High School is tough enough on the boys, lighten up Francis.


I've written multiple checks to Millon. My son wanted to attend his camps - he believed the instruction was useful and the camps were generally well run. That ended last year after some of the things Millon said to my son at a camp - along the lines that my son should quit lacrosse. Which is funny since my son was invited to play on 91MD during one of Millon's camps. As my son put it: Millon is just an butt sometimes. I'm sure my son would still get benefit from some of the camps, but why support Millon when there are so many great alternatives? Ultimately, I left it to my son and he decided to avoid Millon camps and teams going forward.

Dumb question but do you really write checks?? Who does that anymore? I have heard many coaches use different tactics to motivate players. Telling them they should quit does not really mean that. After all, does he not want more of your checks? I am sure he was motivating the kids. May not be for all kids but he has coached for a long time. There is something to it.

All the best coaches encourage kids by telling them to quit the sport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/22/18 12:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats the deal with the Dukes 2022 lacrosse team? Does anyone know how they work? Can you play with your current club team and them? Are they still looking for players?


Depends on what position you play. My son is a defender so as far as I am concerned that position is full. But I definitely think we need help on offense. If your son can score please reach out.

Dukes Nationals stops at 8th grade. The 2022 Dukes are just another club team with some out of state kids sprinkled in.



So that team doesn’t let players just play when they are available anymore? Who is the main contact?



I was told they needed a few more close defenders, due to lack of talent. Contact is on their webpage.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/23/18 01:30 PM
Interesting Fall Rankings posted by USClubLax

1 LI EXPRESS Chan NORTHEAST NY 2022
2 TEAM 91 SMASH NORTHEAST NY 2022
3 ANNAPOLIS HAWKS MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
4 SWEETLAX FL SOUTH FL 2022
5 TEAM 91 MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
6 JUICED CHERRIES MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES MI 2022
7 ECLIPSE NORTHEAST CT 2022
8 LEADING EDGE MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
10 PRIME TIME NORTHEAST NY 2022
11 EDGE NORTHEAST CAN 2022
12 IGLOO ARTIC BLAST NORTHEAST NY 2022
13 BIG 4 HHH MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
14 LEGACY REBELS NORTHEAST NY 2022
15 PREDATORS NORTHEAST NY 2022
16 IRON HORSE DALLAS WEST TX 2022
17 SWEETLAX UPSTATE NORTHEAST NY 2022
18 IRON HORSE AUSTIN WEST TX 2022
19 MADLAX CAPITAL MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
20 DUKES MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
21 WEST COAST STARZ WEST 0 2022
22 DENVER ELITE WEST CO 2022
23 ROUGHRIDERS MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
24 THUNDER LB3 BLUE SOUTH GA 2022
25 FCA BLUE MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/23/18 04:42 PM
Rankings what a joke
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/24/18 03:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting Fall Rankings posted by USClubLax

1 LI EXPRESS Chan NORTHEAST NY 2022
2 TEAM 91 SMASH NORTHEAST NY 2022
3 ANNAPOLIS HAWKS MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
4 SWEETLAX FL SOUTH FL 2022
5 TEAM 91 MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
6 JUICED CHERRIES MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES MI 2022
7 ECLIPSE NORTHEAST CT 2022
8 LEADING EDGE MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
10 PRIME TIME NORTHEAST NY 2022
11 EDGE NORTHEAST CAN 2022
12 IGLOO ARTIC BLAST NORTHEAST NY 2022
13 BIG 4 HHH MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
14 LEGACY REBELS NORTHEAST NY 2022
15 PREDATORS NORTHEAST NY 2022
16 IRON HORSE DALLAS WEST TX 2022
17 SWEETLAX UPSTATE NORTHEAST NY 2022
18 IRON HORSE AUSTIN WEST TX 2022
19 MADLAX CAPITAL MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
20 DUKES MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
21 WEST COAST STARZ WEST 0 2022
22 DENVER ELITE WEST CO 2022
23 ROUGHRIDERS MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
24 THUNDER LB3 BLUE SOUTH GA 2022
25 FCA BLUE MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022


Good Ranking
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/24/18 03:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting Fall Rankings posted by USClubLax

1 LI EXPRESS Chan NORTHEAST NY 2022
2 TEAM 91 SMASH NORTHEAST NY 2022
3 ANNAPOLIS HAWKS MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
4 SWEETLAX FL SOUTH FL 2022
5 TEAM 91 MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
6 JUICED CHERRIES MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES MI 2022
7 ECLIPSE NORTHEAST CT 2022
8 LEADING EDGE MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
10 PRIME TIME NORTHEAST NY 2022
11 EDGE NORTHEAST CAN 2022
12 IGLOO ARTIC BLAST NORTHEAST NY 2022
13 BIG 4 HHH MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
14 LEGACY REBELS NORTHEAST NY 2022
15 PREDATORS NORTHEAST NY 2022
16 IRON HORSE DALLAS WEST TX 2022
17 SWEETLAX UPSTATE NORTHEAST NY 2022
18 IRON HORSE AUSTIN WEST TX 2022
19 MADLAX CAPITAL MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
20 DUKES MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
21 WEST COAST STARZ WEST 0 2022
22 DENVER ELITE WEST CO 2022
23 ROUGHRIDERS MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
24 THUNDER LB3 BLUE SOUTH GA 2022
25 FCA BLUE MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022


Good Ranking


Id switch Juiced Cherries with RR
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/24/18 04:27 PM
Someone has no understanding of 2022 class rankings
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/24/18 05:07 PM
Legacy rebels probably sixth best team on LI alone. Rankings are terrible. MD riughriders should probably be 4 on list. Some of those teams are just plain bad on this list. Some teams are left off that are a lot better. Smash would beat express by 5 goals easy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/24/18 05:32 PM
Igloo has owned 91MD last few years
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/24/18 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting Fall Rankings posted by USClubLax

1 LI EXPRESS Chan NORTHEAST NY 2022
2 TEAM 91 SMASH NORTHEAST NY 2022
3 ANNAPOLIS HAWKS MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
4 SWEETLAX FL SOUTH FL 2022
5 TEAM 91 MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
6 JUICED CHERRIES MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES MI 2022
7 ECLIPSE NORTHEAST CT 2022
8 LEADING EDGE MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
10 PRIME TIME NORTHEAST NY 2022
11 EDGE NORTHEAST CAN 2022
12 IGLOO ARTIC BLAST NORTHEAST NY 2022
13 BIG 4 HHH MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
14 LEGACY REBELS NORTHEAST NY 2022
15 PREDATORS NORTHEAST NY 2022
16 IRON HORSE DALLAS WEST TX 2022
17 SWEETLAX UPSTATE NORTHEAST NY 2022
18 IRON HORSE AUSTIN WEST TX 2022
19 MADLAX CAPITAL MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
20 DUKES MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
21 WEST COAST STARZ WEST 0 2022
22 DENVER ELITE WEST CO 2022
23 ROUGHRIDERS MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
24 THUNDER LB3 BLUE SOUTH GA 2022
25 FCA BLUE MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022


this is obviously fake news. api is not in these rankings so they cannot be real.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/24/18 06:50 PM
Ranking are for A teams check the B team listings may find API there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/24/18 07:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting Fall Rankings posted by USClubLax

1 LI EXPRESS Chan NORTHEAST NY 2022
2 TEAM 91 SMASH NORTHEAST NY 2022
3 ANNAPOLIS HAWKS MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
4 SWEETLAX FL SOUTH FL 2022
5 TEAM 91 MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
6 JUICED CHERRIES MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES MI 2022
7 ECLIPSE NORTHEAST CT 2022
8 LEADING EDGE MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
10 PRIME TIME NORTHEAST NY 2022
11 EDGE NORTHEAST CAN 2022
12 IGLOO ARTIC BLAST NORTHEAST NY 2022
13 BIG 4 HHH MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
14 LEGACY REBELS NORTHEAST NY 2022
15 PREDATORS NORTHEAST NY 2022
16 IRON HORSE DALLAS WEST TX 2022
17 SWEETLAX UPSTATE NORTHEAST NY 2022
18 IRON HORSE AUSTIN WEST TX 2022
19 MADLAX CAPITAL MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
20 DUKES MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
21 WEST COAST STARZ WEST 0 2022
22 DENVER ELITE WEST CO 2022
23 ROUGHRIDERS MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
24 THUNDER LB3 BLUE SOUTH GA 2022
25 FCA BLUE MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022


this is obviously fake news. api is not in these rankings so they cannot be real.


Your right. I missed that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/24/18 07:46 PM
There are teams that smoked Chan all summer that aren't even on this shiite list.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/24/18 07:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are teams that smoked Chan all summer that aren't even on this shiite list.


Name them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/26/18 02:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are teams that smoked Chan all summer that aren't even on this shiite list.

Prime Time, Dukes, Hawks, Eclipse, Smash
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/26/18 02:49 PM
I am not sure why Dukes would be listed on any of the rankings. Most of their players are on other teams listed.
No Crabs in another. I think RR won the Crabs tourney and beat most the teams ranked above them. 3 teams at the top are correct after that the list needs some editing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/26/18 03:41 PM
Rankings wrong because BLACKWOLF not #1
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/26/18 05:56 PM
The Crabs are easily top 5. What's wrong with you folks. Don't you listen to the King Crab's youtube testimonials?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/26/18 07:05 PM
BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/26/18 08:44 PM
91 NY
91 MD
Crabs
FCA
All bring in guess players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/26/18 10:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.


As the boys mature, coaching will matter more. Look for the teams coached by experienced and successful high school and former collegiate coaches (there are plenty of re-tread mediocre coaches out there) to excel while others regress. Talent can only get a team so far. Implementing the proper schemes for the personnel you have and developing both the individuals and units in all phases of the game are paramount to continued success of a club team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/26/18 11:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are teams that smoked Chan all summer that aren't even on this shiite list.

Prime Time, Dukes, Hawks, Eclipse, Smash



You said NOT on the list. Smh
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/27/18 12:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.


Smash can be bet even with Jr.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/27/18 12:44 PM
Top 3

Express
RoughRiders
91 smash
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/27/18 04:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.


As the boys mature, coaching will matter more. Look for the teams coached by experienced and successful high school and former collegiate coaches (there are plenty of re-tread mediocre coaches out there) to excel while others regress. Talent can only get a team so far. Implementing the proper schemes for the personnel you have and developing both the individuals and units in all phases of the game are paramount to continued success of a club team.


But will these new schemes help your son get recruited? A college coach wants to see kids run plays and know lacrosse (Have a Lacrosse IQ) But what he really wants to see is what kind of athlete he is. Can he beat a guy one on one. Can he shoot/catch in traffic. If your team is over coaching, playing Zone on D it will help you win games but when you are in high school it should be way more about the guys with the clip boards not he moms and dads.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/27/18 05:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.


As the boys mature, coaching will matter more. Look for the teams coached by experienced and successful high school and former collegiate coaches (there are plenty of re-tread mediocre coaches out there) to excel while others regress. Talent can only get a team so far. Implementing the proper schemes for the personnel you have and developing both the individuals and units in all phases of the game are paramount to continued success of a club team.


But will these new schemes help your son get recruited? A college coach wants to see kids run plays and know lacrosse (Have a Lacrosse IQ) But what he really wants to see is what kind of athlete he is. Can he beat a guy one on one. Can he shoot/catch in traffic. If your team is over coaching, playing Zone on D it will help you win games but when you are in high school it should be way more about the guys with the clip boards not he moms and dads.

Doesn't hurt if your coach and directors are well connected either. Love them or hate them, guys like Millon, McClarnen, Kelly, Reese, Buggs and co. have a lot of connections in the college coaching ranks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/27/18 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.


As the boys mature, coaching will matter more. Look for the teams coached by experienced and successful high school and former collegiate coaches (there are plenty of re-tread mediocre coaches out there) to excel while others regress. Talent can only get a team so far. Implementing the proper schemes for the personnel you have and developing both the individuals and units in all phases of the game are paramount to continued success of a club team.


But will these new schemes help your son get recruited? A college coach wants to see kids run plays and know lacrosse (Have a Lacrosse IQ) But what he really wants to see is what kind of athlete he is. Can he beat a guy one on one. Can he shoot/catch in traffic. If your team is over coaching, playing Zone on D it will help you win games but when you are in high school it should be way more about the guys with the clip boards not he moms and dads.

Doesn't hurt if your coach and directors are well connected either. Love them or hate them, guys like Millon, McClarnen, Kelly, Reese, Buggs and co. have a lot of connections in the college coaching ranks.


Buggs Combs has zero connections except for maybe UMBC. Anyone who is on that API team and thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/27/18 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.


As the boys mature, coaching will matter more. Look for the teams coached by experienced and successful high school and former collegiate coaches (there are plenty of re-tread mediocre coaches out there) to excel while others regress. Talent can only get a team so far. Implementing the proper schemes for the personnel you have and developing both the individuals and units in all phases of the game are paramount to continued success of a club team.


But will these new schemes help your son get recruited? A college coach wants to see kids run plays and know lacrosse (Have a Lacrosse IQ) But what he really wants to see is what kind of athlete he is. Can he beat a guy one on one. Can he shoot/catch in traffic. If your team is over coaching, playing Zone on D it will help you win games but when you are in high school it should be way more about the guys with the clip boards not he moms and dads.

Doesn't hurt if your coach and directors are well connected either. Love them or hate them, guys like Millon, McClarnen, Kelly, Reese, Buggs and co. have a lot of connections in the college coaching ranks.



HS club has minimal practice time -- a few fall and maybe 8-10 summer. Good club coaches will have minimal schemes and let the players show their skill & IQ. Their school coaches now lead their development. Hopefully club program gave them a solid foundation
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/27/18 08:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 3

Express
RoughRiders
91 smash


LMAO
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/28/18 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.


As the boys mature, coaching will matter more. Look for the teams coached by experienced and successful high school and former collegiate coaches (there are plenty of re-tread mediocre coaches out there) to excel while others regress. Talent can only get a team so far. Implementing the proper schemes for the personnel you have and developing both the individuals and units in all phases of the game are paramount to continued success of a club team.


But will these new schemes help your son get recruited? A college coach wants to see kids run plays and know lacrosse (Have a Lacrosse IQ) But what he really wants to see is what kind of athlete he is. Can he beat a guy one on one. Can he shoot/catch in traffic. If your team is over coaching, playing Zone on D it will help you win games but when you are in high school it should be way more about the guys with the clip boards not he moms and dads.

Doesn't hurt if your coach and directors are well connected either. Love them or hate them, guys like Millon, McClarnen, Kelly, Reese, Buggs and co. have a lot of connections in the college coaching ranks.



HS club has minimal practice time -- a few fall and maybe 8-10 summer. Good club coaches will have minimal schemes and let the players show their skill & IQ. Their school coaches now lead their development. Hopefully club program gave them a solid foundation


Two separate discussions: 1) Which team is best: yes talent, coaching and how you match up against team a vs team b matters. Parents and yes players care (no one likes to lose) but the college coaches don't care. 2) Which clubs get you recruited? Do the more established clubs have better and more regular communications with college coaches. Sure. But if you're a reserve on this top notch club when developmentally and PT wise you would be better off playing for another top tier club I would contend you should switch clubs. If you're a blue chipper, it doesn't matter. With early recruiting gone the way of the Dodo bird, high school coaches are more important than ever. In the A Conference, the college coaches will watch you on film, see you live in the summer and ask the other Conference coaches (as well as your head coach) all about you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/28/18 05:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.


As the boys mature, coaching will matter more. Look for the teams coached by experienced and successful high school and former collegiate coaches (there are plenty of re-tread mediocre coaches out there) to excel while others regress. Talent can only get a team so far. Implementing the proper schemes for the personnel you have and developing both the individuals and units in all phases of the game are paramount to continued success of a club team.


But will these new schemes help your son get recruited? A college coach wants to see kids run plays and know lacrosse (Have a Lacrosse IQ) But what he really wants to see is what kind of athlete he is. Can he beat a guy one on one. Can he shoot/catch in traffic. If your team is over coaching, playing Zone on D it will help you win games but when you are in high school it should be way more about the guys with the clip boards not he moms and dads.

Doesn't hurt if your coach and directors are well connected either. Love them or hate them, guys like Millon, McClarnen, Kelly, Reese, Buggs and co. have a lot of connections in the college coaching ranks.



HS club has minimal practice time -- a few fall and maybe 8-10 summer. Good club coaches will have minimal schemes and let the players show their skill & IQ. Their school coaches now lead their development. Hopefully club program gave them a solid foundation


Two separate discussions: 1) Which team is best: yes talent, coaching and how you match up against team a vs team b matters. Parents and yes players care (no one likes to lose) but the college coaches don't care. 2) Which clubs get you recruited? Do the more established clubs have better and more regular communications with college coaches. Sure. But if you're a reserve on this top notch club when developmentally and PT wise you would be better off playing for another top tier club I would contend you should switch clubs. If you're a blue chipper, it doesn't matter. With early recruiting gone the way of the Dodo bird, high school coaches are more important than ever. In the A Conference, the college coaches will watch you on film, see you live in the summer and ask the other Conference coaches (as well as your head coach) all about you.

These are good points and the value of HS and Club is based on a different set of circumstances for every player. There is NO one size fits all model. Many of the top HS private school programs are dominated by Jr's and Seniors who are already committed or almost committed. The club may provide better exposure in those cases. There are still such a thing as college walk on's who bloom late. Unless a player is a real outlier in skill I would rank as follows:
1. Grades (school specific for example IVY still uses the AI index)
2. Camps and showcases where the coaches work with you up close and personal
3. A players' own efforts. Players need to email coaches of schools they are interested in.
4. Club program as it is hard for a coach to see a HS game.
5. HS Team

This is not to say that any of these are not important. It is a given that all top players need to play both Club and HS. If a player is not on a good club that may be a red flag. However, good players do get recruited from lesser HS programs more than good players for lesser clubs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/29/18 11:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.


As the boys mature, coaching will matter more. Look for the teams coached by experienced and successful high school and former collegiate coaches (there are plenty of re-tread mediocre coaches out there) to excel while others regress. Talent can only get a team so far. Implementing the proper schemes for the personnel you have and developing both the individuals and units in all phases of the game are paramount to continued success of a club team.


But will these new schemes help your son get recruited? A college coach wants to see kids run plays and know lacrosse (Have a Lacrosse IQ) But what he really wants to see is what kind of athlete he is. Can he beat a guy one on one. Can he shoot/catch in traffic. If your team is over coaching, playing Zone on D it will help you win games but when you are in high school it should be way more about the guys with the clip boards not he moms and dads.

Doesn't hurt if your coach and directors are well connected either. Love them or hate them, guys like Millon, McClarnen, Kelly, Reese, Buggs and co. have a lot of connections in the college coaching ranks.


Buggs Combs has zero connections except for maybe UMBC. Anyone who is on that API team and thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.


Where was API this Fall? I did not see or hear of them? Did they play in any decent tournaments, or did they take the fall off?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/29/18 11:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.


As the boys mature, coaching will matter more. Look for the teams coached by experienced and successful high school and former collegiate coaches (there are plenty of re-tread mediocre coaches out there) to excel while others regress. Talent can only get a team so far. Implementing the proper schemes for the personnel you have and developing both the individuals and units in all phases of the game are paramount to continued success of a club team.


But will these new schemes help your son get recruited? A college coach wants to see kids run plays and know lacrosse (Have a Lacrosse IQ) But what he really wants to see is what kind of athlete he is. Can he beat a guy one on one. Can he shoot/catch in traffic. If your team is over coaching, playing Zone on D it will help you win games but when you are in high school it should be way more about the guys with the clip boards not he moms and dads.

Doesn't hurt if your coach and directors are well connected either. Love them or hate them, guys like Millon, McClarnen, Kelly, Reese, Buggs and co. have a lot of connections in the college coaching ranks.


Recommendations from a few of the coaches you mentioned above would almost be a disadvantage to your player trying to get into certain colleges. One of the biggest problems with lacrosse parents who try to keep up with the fashionable stuff is that they believe(even pay for) the hype and B.S. some of these guy are dishing out. (Millon, McClarnen and Buggs to be specific)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/29/18 12:28 PM
Everyone is practicing with their teams. The kids who separate from the pack are the ones doing the extra running, lifting, wall ball, shooting and working with position coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/30/18 02:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rankings wrong because BLACKWOLF not #1


Isn't Blackwolf for the kids that couldn't make Madlax, Next Level, or DC Express?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/30/18 02:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 NY
91 MD
Crabs
FCA
All bring in guess players


Edge and DC Express also know for having "fluid" line-ups.

One week they are the best, the next they are mediocre.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/30/18 04:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 NY
91 MD
Crabs
FCA
All bring in guess players


Edge and DC Express also know for having "fluid" line-ups.

One week they are the best, the next they are mediocre.



If bringing in guest players is all about winning, then that's on the coaches/programs. If it's about giving kids from outside the area a chance to play against stiffer competition, then I can live with that. If by doing so, it sidelines a kid who's paid his dues (literally) and practiced and played regularly, the altruism starts to lose its luster. That said, seems that it hardly bears mentioning at this point, as guest players have been a reality for years and that isn't likely to change.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/31/18 02:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rankings wrong because BLACKWOLF not #1


Isn't Blackwolf for the kids that couldn't make Madlax, Next Level, or DC Express?


Pretty much ... except for a couple kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/31/18 05:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting Fall Rankings posted by USClubLax

1 LI EXPRESS Chan NORTHEAST NY 2022
2 TEAM 91 SMASH NORTHEAST NY 2022
3 ANNAPOLIS HAWKS MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
4 SWEETLAX FL SOUTH FL 2022
5 TEAM 91 MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
6 JUICED CHERRIES MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES MI 2022
7 ECLIPSE NORTHEAST CT 2022
8 LEADING EDGE MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
10 PRIME TIME NORTHEAST NY 2022
11 EDGE NORTHEAST CAN 2022
12 IGLOO ARTIC BLAST NORTHEAST NY 2022
13 BIG 4 HHH MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
14 LEGACY REBELS NORTHEAST NY 2022
15 PREDATORS NORTHEAST NY 2022
16 IRON HORSE DALLAS WEST TX 2022
17 SWEETLAX UPSTATE NORTHEAST NY 2022
18 IRON HORSE AUSTIN WEST TX 2022
19 MADLAX CAPITAL MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
20 DUKES MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
21 WEST COAST STARZ WEST 0 2022
22 DENVER ELITE WEST CO 2022
23 ROUGHRIDERS MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
24 THUNDER LB3 BLUE SOUTH GA 2022
25 FCA BLUE MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022


this is obviously fake news. api is not in these rankings so they cannot be real.


Your right. I missed that.

Chan didn't even win a major tournament last summer
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/31/18 05:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.


Smash can be bet even with Jr.


Of course it's lacrosse so anyone can be beat but I will say if jr is playing w crush and smash it's doable with him playing double the games in a weekend. if he's playing with just smash that weekend he is a near impossible cover last year we witnessed it. regardless Smash without him is just average.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/31/18 02:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rankings wrong because BLACKWOLF not #1


Isn't Blackwolf for the kids that couldn't make Madlax, Next Level, or DC Express?


Pretty much ... except for a couple kids.

Pretty accurate...BW=two good players, solid goalie, and Evergreen
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/31/18 03:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Anonymous Official 2019 Pre-Season 2022 Top 10
1 - 91 Smash - if Jr. is playing
2 - Express Chan - consistent and deep group.
3 - Hawks - Best talent in the age group, just can't put it together consistently.
4 - 91 Maryland - Solid defense. will this team drop if #9 plays 2023?
5 - FCA Blue - Improved over team that was hitting stride at end of summer.
6 - Prime Time - Size and athletes. Always competitive.
7 - Crabs - Added solid talent and always in the mix at the HS years.
8 - Roughriders - Won Crab Feast and beat Hawks last 2 times out, but not eye-popping.
9 - Madlax - Undersized but talented. Can steal games.
10 - Edge - Unpredictable, but dangerous.


As the boys mature, coaching will matter more. Look for the teams coached by experienced and successful high school and former collegiate coaches (there are plenty of re-tread mediocre coaches out there) to excel while others regress. Talent can only get a team so far. Implementing the proper schemes for the personnel you have and developing both the individuals and units in all phases of the game are paramount to continued success of a club team.


But will these new schemes help your son get recruited? A college coach wants to see kids run plays and know lacrosse (Have a Lacrosse IQ) But what he really wants to see is what kind of athlete he is. Can he beat a guy one on one. Can he shoot/catch in traffic. If your team is over coaching, playing Zone on D it will help you win games but when you are in high school it should be way more about the guys with the clip boards not he moms and dads.

Doesn't hurt if your coach and directors are well connected either. Love them or hate them, guys like Millon, McClarnen, Kelly, Reese, Buggs and co. have a lot of connections in the college coaching ranks.


Recommendations from a few of the coaches you mentioned above would almost be a disadvantage to your player trying to get into certain colleges. One of the biggest problems with lacrosse parents who try to keep up with the fashionable stuff is that they believe(even pay for) the hype and B.S. some of these guy are dishing out. (Millon, McClarnen and Buggs to be specific)




They are all well connected to the college recruiting process. Even Buggs who was a stud at MD and played at every level with many of the current college coaches from D1-D3.
However I do not think they give out recommendations unless asked by the school and at that point I do not see how their option could hurt a kid just because its them giving the opinion. Sure many of these guys may not like each other on a personal level and many parents dislike them but if your son is playing for them you will have an advantage come recruiting time. If certain college coaches make a decision on a player because of the club coach instead of all the other stuff that comes along with it then that would be just sad and I can't believe that ever happens. If a player shows interest in a school and school to the player the negatives and positives will fall into place. Not a fan of this guy but if a college coach gets an opinion from one of the greatest attackman EVER who happens to have been teaching youth lacrosse for 25 years or so , my bet is they listen. Even if they don't like the guy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/31/18 03:15 PM
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 12/31/18 07:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rankings wrong because BLACKWOLF not #1


Isn't Blackwolf for the kids that couldn't make Madlax, Next Level, or DC Express?


Pretty much ... except for a couple kids.

Pretty accurate...BW=two good players, solid goalie, and Evergreen

Spot on. If that PVI middie leaves, that team is not very good at all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/01/19 01:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.


Crabs steamrolled RR the only time they played last year. Wasn't even a game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/01/19 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.

Top 10 in the country on the list above isn’t high enough? By the way, the anonymous BOTC top 10 was way more accurate than the USClubLax one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/01/19 06:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.

Top 10 in the country on the list above isn’t high enough? By the way, the anonymous BOTC top 10 was way more accurate than the USClubLax one.


RawRiders the top team? What?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/02/19 02:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.

Top 10 in the country on the list above isn’t high enough? By the way, the anonymous BOTC top 10 was way more accurate than the USClubLax one.


RawRiders the top team? What?


RRers had a most successful summer and a good Fall. Whether they'll be able to build on that, only time will tell. As for the "RawRiders" slight, just a cheap shot from a, I suspect, cheap source.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/02/19 07:11 PM
Seriously ... raw riders ..... why ??? These are kids you're talking about. GROW UP you perv !!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/02/19 10:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seriously ... raw riders ..... why ??? These are kids you're talking about. GROW UP you perv !!!


Got some snowflakes in the group. Can’t take a joke. Be careful.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/02/19 10:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.



Didn’t the Hawks win HOCO 3 years in a row or something like that? RR play HOCO?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/02/19 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.



Didn’t the Hawks win HOCO 3 years in a row or something like that? RR play HOCO?


Hawks glory days. Middle school lacrosse. Enjoy being a bottom feeders in the miaa at Spalding. Can’t buy wins like you bought those new Spalding helmets.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 12:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.



Didn’t the Hawks win HOCO 3 years in a row or something like that? RR play HOCO?


Hawks glory days. Middle school lacrosse. Enjoy being a bottom feeders in the miaa at Spalding. Can’t buy wins like you bought those new Spalding helmets.


Man - Just asked a question for clarification. Someone goes on attack real quick.

I’m just an outside observer. Lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 12:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.



Didn’t the Hawks win HOCO 3 years in a row or something like that? RR play HOCO?


Hawks glory days. Middle school lacrosse. Enjoy being a bottom feeders in the miaa at Spalding. Can’t buy wins like you bought those new Spalding helmets.


Some people are hung up on new helmets. Swag envy. Your son will get his. Relax
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 12:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seriously ... raw riders ..... why ??? These are kids you're talking about. GROW UP you perv !!!


Got some snowflakes in the group. Can’t take a joke. Be careful.


Rawrider snowflakes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 01:19 AM
New high school helmets are good. At most schools you have to make the team first not just go to the school and buy one at the book store. Well maybe that’s the reason Spalding are bottom feeders. John Carroll will have more wins this year than Spalding.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 01:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.



Didn’t the Hawks win HOCO 3 years in a row or something like that? RR play HOCO?


Hawks glory days. Middle school lacrosse. Enjoy being a bottom feeders in the miaa at Spalding. Can’t buy wins like you bought those new Spalding helmets.


Some people are hung up on new helmets. Swag envy. Your son will get his. Relax

The objects of scorn are always the best teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 01:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New high school helmets are good. At most schools you have to make the team first not just go to the school and buy one at the book store. Well maybe that’s the reason Spalding are bottom feeders. John Carroll will have more wins this year than Spalding.


If your good enough, you know you are on the team. Duh

You shouldn’t buy your sons until he is sure he made atleast the JV team. Lol

John Carroll? Funny
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 02:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New high school helmets are good. At most schools you have to make the team first not just go to the school and buy one at the book store. Well maybe that’s the reason Spalding are bottom feeders. John Carroll will have more wins this year than Spalding.


If your good enough, you know you are on the team. Duh

You shouldn’t buy your sons until he is sure he made atleast the JV team. Lol

John Carroll? Funny

The irony of of the poor grammar and the “Duh” is rich.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 02:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New high school helmets are good. At most schools you have to make the team first not just go to the school and buy one at the book store. Well maybe that’s the reason Spalding are bottom feeders. John Carroll will have more wins this year than Spalding.


If your good enough, you know you are on the team. Duh

You shouldn’t buy your sons until he is sure he made atleast the JV team. Lol

John Carroll? Funny
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 02:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.



Didn’t the Hawks win HOCO 3 years in a row or something like that? RR play HOCO?


Hawks glory days. Middle school lacrosse. Enjoy being a bottom feeders in the miaa at Spalding. Can’t buy wins like you bought those new Spalding helmets.


Some people are hung up on new helmets. Swag envy. Your son will get his. Relax

The objects of scorn are always the best teams.



American way. Hate the teams that win too much.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 04:16 AM
Not bad for a bunch of 2020 and 2021 holdbacks playing against true 2022s

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting Fall Rankings posted by USClubLax

1 LI EXPRESS Chan NORTHEAST NY 2022
2 TEAM 91 SMASH NORTHEAST NY 2022
3 ANNAPOLIS HAWKS MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
4 SWEETLAX FL SOUTH FL 2022
5 TEAM 91 MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
6 JUICED CHERRIES MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES MI 2022
7 ECLIPSE NORTHEAST CT 2022
8 LEADING EDGE MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
10 PRIME TIME NORTHEAST NY 2022
11 EDGE NORTHEAST CAN 2022
12 IGLOO ARTIC BLAST NORTHEAST NY 2022
13 BIG 4 HHH MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
14 LEGACY REBELS NORTHEAST NY 2022
15 PREDATORS NORTHEAST NY 2022
16 IRON HORSE DALLAS WEST TX 2022
17 SWEETLAX UPSTATE NORTHEAST NY 2022
18 IRON HORSE AUSTIN WEST TX 2022
19 MADLAX CAPITAL MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
20 DUKES MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
21 WEST COAST STARZ WEST 0 2022
22 DENVER ELITE WEST CO 2022
23 ROUGHRIDERS MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
24 THUNDER LB3 BLUE SOUTH GA 2022
25 FCA BLUE MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022


this is obviously fake news. api is not in these rankings so they cannot be real.


Your right. I missed that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 04:33 AM
Doesn’t Spalding have different helmets for JV and varsity? Which did they get? Some will be on varsity but most will be waiting a year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 11:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.



Didn’t the Hawks win HOCO 3 years in a row or something like that? RR play HOCO?


Hawks glory days. Middle school lacrosse. Enjoy being a bottom feeders in the miaa at Spalding. Can’t buy wins like you bought those new Spalding helmets.


Some people are hung up on new helmets. Swag envy. Your son will get his. Relax

The objects of scorn are always the best teams.



American way. Hate the teams that win too much.


Totally baffling(<sarcasm) how all that "winning" has slowed down over the last year or so, since the other kids/teams in the 2022 age group hit puberty and physically caught up with the 2021 and 2020 kids that carried the Hawks 2022 to wins for years. It has become clear watching Hawks play over the last year that their bigger, more physical players are not able to push other players around to generate the offense they once had when they were 2 feet taller than everyone else on the field.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 11:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rough Riders MD has to be higher on all these list. They are better than any team in Md with the exception of maybe the Hawks. They have always had the Hawks number so many think they are better. Yes there can beat and yes they have been beaten but not one team on any of those list want to play them.


Crabs steamrolled RR the only time they played last year. Wasn't even a game.


Hawks beat RR 10-2 in their 2nd HoCo game last season. RR responded with win against them in the Crabfeast semis and then again at the MD Tourney this fall. Unfortunately, Crabs and "Guests" got waxed(9-1) by FCA in their home bracket at Crabfeast, so RR wound up playing FCA to win the Crabfeast Championship. "Roughriders - 2018 Crab Feast Champions"! I have a tee-shirt if you want one?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not bad for a bunch of 2020 and 2021 holdbacks playing against true 2022s

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting Fall Rankings posted by USClubLax

1 LI EXPRESS Chan NORTHEAST NY 2022
2 TEAM 91 SMASH NORTHEAST NY 2022
3 ANNAPOLIS HAWKS MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
4 SWEETLAX FL SOUTH FL 2022
5 TEAM 91 MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
6 JUICED CHERRIES MIDWEST/GREAT LAKES MI 2022
7 ECLIPSE NORTHEAST CT 2022
8 LEADING EDGE MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
9 BBL ELITE BLACK MID-ATLANTIC NJ 2022
10 PRIME TIME NORTHEAST NY 2022
11 EDGE NORTHEAST CAN 2022
12 IGLOO ARTIC BLAST NORTHEAST NY 2022
13 BIG 4 HHH MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
14 LEGACY REBELS NORTHEAST NY 2022
15 PREDATORS NORTHEAST NY 2022
16 IRON HORSE DALLAS WEST TX 2022
17 SWEETLAX UPSTATE NORTHEAST NY 2022
18 IRON HORSE AUSTIN WEST TX 2022
19 MADLAX CAPITAL MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
20 DUKES MID-ATLANTIC PA 2022
21 WEST COAST STARZ WEST 0 2022
22 DENVER ELITE WEST CO 2022
23 ROUGHRIDERS MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022
24 THUNDER LB3 BLUE SOUTH GA 2022
25 FCA BLUE MD MID-ATLANTIC MD 2022


this is obviously fake news. api is not in these rankings so they cannot be real.


Your right. I missed that.


There rankings at every age are comical....they have no idea what they are talking about
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New high school helmets are good. At most schools you have to make the team first not just go to the school and buy one at the book store. Well maybe that’s the reason Spalding are bottom feeders. John Carroll will have more wins this year than Spalding.


If your good enough, you know you are on the team. Duh

You shouldn’t buy your sons until he is sure he made atleast the JV team. Lol

John Carroll? Funny


John Carroll did beat Spalding last year didn't they? The point about the helmets is that the Hawks coach bought all the kids Spalding Helmets. Comical. Make the team first. Though at Spalding it's not that big of an accomplishment.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/03/19 06:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New high school helmets are good. At most schools you have to make the team first not just go to the school and buy one at the book store. Well maybe that’s the reason Spalding are bottom feeders. John Carroll will have more wins this year than Spalding.


If your good enough, you know you are on the team. Duh

You shouldn’t buy your sons until he is sure he made atleast the JV team. Lol

John Carroll? Funny


John Carroll did beat Spalding last year didn't they? The point about the helmets is that the Hawks coach bought all the kids Spalding Helmets. Comical. Make the team first. Though at Spalding it's not that big of an accomplishment.



That was nice of the Hawks coach. Very generous.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/04/19 12:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New high school helmets are good. At most schools you have to make the team first not just go to the school and buy one at the book store. Well maybe that’s the reason Spalding are bottom feeders. John Carroll will have more wins this year than Spalding.


If your good enough, you know you are on the team. Duh

You shouldn’t buy your sons until he is sure he made atleast the JV team. Lol

John Carroll? Funny


John Carroll did beat Spalding last year didn't they? The point about the helmets is that the Hawks coach bought all the kids Spalding Helmets. Comical. Make the team first. Though at Spalding it's not that big of an accomplishment.



That was nice of the Hawks coach. Very generous.



2022 lacrosse is his life. #Helicopter
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/04/19 03:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New high school helmets are good. At most schools you have to make the team first not just go to the school and buy one at the book store. Well maybe that’s the reason Spalding are bottom feeders. John Carroll will have more wins this year than Spalding.


If your good enough, you know you are on the team. Duh

You shouldn’t buy your sons until he is sure he made atleast the JV team. Lol

John Carroll? Funny


John Carroll did beat Spalding last year didn't they? The point about the helmets is that the Hawks coach bought all the kids Spalding Helmets. Comical. Make the team first. Though at Spalding it's not that big of an accomplishment.



That was nice of the Hawks coach. Very generous.



2022 lacrosse is his life. #Helicopter


Says the guy on the 2022 anonymous message board everyday. #SNOWFLAKE
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/05/19 12:41 AM
Every team has an off day. Thunder out of Harford County beat Crabs last Spring.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/05/19 01:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Every team has an off day. Thunder out of Harford County beat Crabs last Spring.

True it is a game of face off and goalie play
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/05/19 02:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New high school helmets are good. At most schools you have to make the team first not just go to the school and buy one at the book store. Well maybe that’s the reason Spalding are bottom feeders. John Carroll will have more wins this year than Spalding.


If your good enough, you know you are on the team. Duh

You shouldn’t buy your sons until he is sure he made atleast the JV team. Lol

John Carroll? Funny


John Carroll did beat Spalding last year didn't they? The point about the helmets is that the Hawks coach bought all the kids Spalding Helmets. Comical. Make the team first. Though at Spalding it's not that big of an accomplishment.


Jealous your son didnt get one? Tell him to hit the wall, maybe next year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/15/19 05:12 AM
Is receiving an invite to the Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip camp anything to get excited about or is it just another money grab that anybody with a stick can attend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/15/19 12:41 PM
Well, good camp but money grab and as far as receiving invite as a badge of honor "congrats". However many peaking at this age have hit puberty early and stand out amongst other things. Good luck
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/15/19 01:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is receiving an invite to the Jake Reed Nike Blue Chip camp anything to get excited about or is it just another money grab that anybody with a stick can attend?


If your kid is very fast and hates to pass then go he will love it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/15/19 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well, good camp but money grab and as far as receiving invite as a badge of honor "congrats". However many peaking at this age have hit puberty early and stand out amongst other things. Good luck


During the early recruiting era, this camp was a "must do". Feels like more of a D3 camp now. Good way to get seen by a lot of coaches at once but exorbitantly expensive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/15/19 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well, good camp but money grab and as far as receiving invite as a badge of honor "congrats". However many peaking at this age have hit puberty early and stand out amongst other things. Good luck


During the early recruiting era, this camp was a "must do". Feels like more of a D3 camp now. Good way to get seen by a lot of coaches at once but exorbitantly expensive.

I agree these things are all about if you are from a hot bed area and do you play for a top 20 travel club. If the answer is yes and yes for sure not worth the money. If the answer is no and no you might want to see if you can afford it. And my advise from a 2019 D2 top 10 commit player. Is to find a level of play first. The sooner you lock in on what level your son should or wants to play the easier the where to go answers come. This is a lot harder now because of the Sept Jr. year rule. But still the most important question to get answered ASAP.
1. What level can he play?
2. What level will he play as a freshman or will it take up till Sr. year to play?
3. What level of Academics must he have? You will be paying something so this is huge no full rides in lacrosse.
4. Will your son work for years to get playing time? Does he have to touch field Freshman year?
5. How far away from home can he play?
6. Does he have to play a certain position or will he do anything to hit the field?

Other people with kids in college please add to these questions to help these dads of 9th grade ballers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/15/19 04:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well, good camp but money grab and as far as receiving invite as a badge of honor "congrats". However many peaking at this age have hit puberty early and stand out amongst other things. Good luck


During the early recruiting era, this camp was a "must do". Feels like more of a D3 camp now. Good way to get seen by a lot of coaches at once but exorbitantly expensive.


Have you and your son actually attended the camp in the last few years or are you just repeating what "you've heard"?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/15/19 04:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well, good camp but money grab and as far as receiving invite as a badge of honor "congrats". However many peaking at this age have hit puberty early and stand out amongst other things. Good luck


During the early recruiting era, this camp was a "must do". Feels like more of a D3 camp now. Good way to get seen by a lot of coaches at once but exorbitantly expensive.

I agree these things are all about if you are from a hot bed area and do you play for a top 20 travel club. If the answer is yes and yes for sure not worth the money. If the answer is no and no you might want to see if you can afford it. And my advise from a 2019 D2 top 10 commit player. Is to find a level of play first. The sooner you lock in on what level your son should or wants to play the easier the where to go answers come. This is a lot harder now because of the Sept Jr. year rule. But still the most important question to get answered ASAP.
1. What level can he play?
2. What level will he play as a freshman or will it take up till Sr. year to play?
3. What level of Academics must he have? You will be paying something so this is huge no full rides in lacrosse.
4. Will your son work for years to get playing time? Does he have to touch field Freshman year?
5. How far away from home can he play?
6. Does he have to play a certain position or will he do anything to hit the field?

Other people with kids in college please add to these questions to help these dads of 9th grade ballers.


So it's your opinion that if a kid plays for a top 20 club and or attends a HS with a perennial lacrosse program that doing show cases like blue chip are a total waste of time and money? Aren't these the only kids they extend invites to?

The bigger question. At what point does a kid want to start getting his name out there? It's a small community and people talk..coaches, parents, kids. With this event being held in Baltimore there must be some influential folks attending who will get the word started about the kids that attend...whether it's great, good or indifferent right?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/15/19 05:07 PM
For Rising Sophomores, it is the same weekend as the Under Armour games. For Rising Juniors, it is the same weekend as the Crab Feast. The best players will not be at Jake Reed, and the coaches will be where the best players are.

My son went last year and it was a waste of time. They cast a VERY wide net for invites. It means very little to be invited these days.

If you have a rising freshman or sophomore, the college coaches really will not be watching this summer for the most part. If you want to attend pay for play events, do it for the experience and to get ready for later, not to try to get exposure.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/15/19 05:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well, good camp but money grab and as far as receiving invite as a badge of honor "congrats". However many peaking at this age have hit puberty early and stand out amongst other things. Good luck


During the early recruiting era, this camp was a "must do". Feels like more of a D3 camp now. Good way to get seen by a lot of coaches at once but exorbitantly expensive.

I agree these things are all about if you are from a hot bed area and do you play for a top 20 travel club. If the answer is yes and yes for sure not worth the money. If the answer is no and no you might want to see if you can afford it. And my advise from a 2019 D2 top 10 commit player. Is to find a level of play first. The sooner you lock in on what level your son should or wants to play the easier the where to go answers come. This is a lot harder now because of the Sept Jr. year rule. But still the most important question to get answered ASAP.
1. What level can he play?
2. What level will he play as a freshman or will it take up till Sr. year to play?
3. What level of Academics must he have? You will be paying something so this is huge no full rides in lacrosse.
4. Will your son work for years to get playing time? Does he have to touch field Freshman year?
5. How far away from home can he play?
6. Does he have to play a certain position or will he do anything to hit the field?

Other people with kids in college please add to these questions to help these dads of 9th grade ballers.


So it's your opinion that if a kid plays for a top 20 club and or attends a HS with a perennial lacrosse program that doing show cases like blue chip are a total waste of time and money? Aren't these the only kids they extend invites to?

The bigger question. At what point does a kid want to start getting his name out there? It's a small community and people talk..coaches, parents, kids. With this event being held in Baltimore there must be some influential folks attending who will get the word started about the kids that attend...whether it's great, good or indifferent right?


Ok let me change my quote, I would not say its a full waste of money for the kids from Top 20 club teams and hot bed areas. I was just saying they will get seen with or without a camp/showcase like this for this kind of cost. But I am 99% sure if you want to go to this event and you have your high school coach reach out to this event they will take your money. They might contact you the week before the event but they will take your money. These events allways start with the best of the best but they never hit the full number with this first round of invites. If you want to be there you can get your son in this event.
As for your second question. If your son plays in a event like this and looks fully over matched it could hurt him mentally in the long run. But to counter that thought the coahes do try to stick to finding the best players not crossing off the worst players. So it could be a way to let your boy see where he lines up, if you are from a non hot bed area. This goes back to my point above, events like this can help you find the correct level of play for your son. If he stands out as a star go the top D1 path. If he just holds his own but does not look like a star. He is low D1 to top D3. If he looks over matched and lost get tons of one on one work for him then come back next year. Everyone tries to make it harder then it really is. Use the old EYE test and you will know who is a stud and who is not.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/15/19 08:00 PM
This landscape is extremely difficult for players to navigate and the general responses posted here reflect that. If someone had posted asking about Under Armour instead of Blue Chip the responses would be exactly the same...money grab, waste of time, players are pre-selected by region coaches before tryouts even take place etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/15/19 09:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This landscape is extremely difficult for players to navigate and the general responses posted here reflect that. If someone had posted asking about Under Armour instead of Blue Chip the responses would be exactly the same...money grab, waste of time, players are pre-selected by region coaches before tryouts even take place etc.







Good point. My general sense (and I certainly could be inaccurate) is that the top summer events in terms of "prestige" are Under Armour, Maverik Showtime, and Adrenaline Black Card. Under Armour is a tryout process, and Showtime and Black Card are invite-only. Each has its warts, and none can claim to have all the best players. At the same time, each is supposed to be a good opportunity for D-I exposure. Relatively small number of players and relatively large number of coaches.

Beyond that, there are a variety of events to choose from, some more expensive than others. Jake Reed may be a good option for out of towners because the kids stay in dorms. NXT may be good because it is cheaper and an overnight stay is not required. Lacrosse Masters offers great exposure to Ivy and NESCAC coaches, etc. Choose based on cost, ease of attendance, and target schools, not because of some perceived "prestige" in receiving an invite.

In my opinion, Jake Reed is in an awkward calendar slot with Crab Feast, Maverik Showtime, and Under Armour all in that same 8 day period. My guess is that coaches at the more competitive programs will focus more on the latter three events. That may not be a deal breaker for a lot of prospective participants, but it should be considered.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This landscape is extremely difficult for players to navigate and the general responses posted here reflect that. If someone had posted asking about Under Armour instead of Blue Chip the responses would be exactly the same...money grab, waste of time, players are pre-selected by region coaches before tryouts even take place etc.


Good point. My general sense (and I certainly could be inaccurate) is that the top summer events in terms of "prestige" are Under Armour, Maverik Showtime, and Adrenaline Black Card. Under Armour is a tryout process, and Showtime and Black Card are invite-only. Each has its warts, and none can claim to have all the best players. At the same time, each is supposed to be a good opportunity for D-I exposure. Relatively small number of players and relatively large number of coaches.

Beyond that, there are a variety of events to choose from, some more expensive than others. Jake Reed may be a good option for out of towners because the kids stay in dorms. NXT may be good because it is cheaper and an overnight stay is not required. Lacrosse Masters offers great exposure to Ivy and NESCAC coaches, etc. Choose based on cost, ease of attendance, and target schools, not because of some perceived "prestige" in receiving an invite.

In my opinion, Jake Reed is in an awkward calendar slot with Crab Feast, Maverik Showtime, and Under Armour all in that same 8 day period. My guess is that coaches at the more competitive programs will focus more on the latter three events. That may not be a deal breaker for a lot of prospective participants, but it should be considered.


If you want a good landscape and high exposure to D1 Coaches, the D1 Showcase, UnD1sputed Showcase for only 160 total players on 2 side-by-side fields and 30 D1 coaches present (15 on each field) plus local D2/D3 coaches. That one is legit and Showtime is great but that has been sold out since October. Und1sputed is on Long Island mid July.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/20/19 03:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well, good camp but money grab and as far as receiving invite as a badge of honor "congrats". However many peaking at this age have hit puberty early and stand out amongst other things. Good luck


During the early recruiting era, this camp was a "must do". Feels like more of a D3 camp now. Good way to get seen by a lot of coaches at once but exorbitantly expensive.


Many of the invites were turned down last year and the camp was scrambling to fill slots. Not so hard to get an invite these days.

Instruction was not very good either.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/21/19 01:02 AM
Hmmm.... is anyone else sick of a certain prominent Smash/Crush aka double holdback bragging about Winning a box championship? C’mon aren’t the parents embarrassed? Your kid is supposed to be in11th grade!! Father constantly talking about promoting the sport yet he holds his kids back and the acts like they’re something special. Maybe they are, but we’ll never know because you cheated! For all of those doing thing the right way...karma will be on your side in the long run, trust me!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/21/19 01:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hmmm.... is anyone else sick of a certain prominent Smash/Crush aka double holdback bragging about Winning a box championship? C’mon aren’t the parents embarrassed? Your kid is supposed to be in11th grade!! Father constantly talking about promoting the sport yet he holds his kids back and the acts like they’re something special. Maybe they are, but we’ll never know because you cheated! For all of those doing thing the right way...karma will be on your side in the long run, trust me!


Did you lose to him?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/22/19 02:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hmmm.... is anyone else sick of a certain prominent Smash/Crush aka double holdback bragging about Winning a box championship? C’mon aren’t the parents embarrassed? Your kid is supposed to be in11th grade!! Father constantly talking about promoting the sport yet he holds his kids back and the acts like they’re something special. Maybe they are, but we’ll never know because you cheated! For all of those doing thing the right way...karma will be on your side in the long run, trust me!


Did you lose to him?



How do you know how old or what grade he is in or should be in?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/22/19 03:22 AM
There are many of kids right here in MD that are thought of to be the best at this age! Many of them should be 2021 and have been playing their correct age or year up 2020. Now they must fall back to where they actually are grade wise. Like it or not these select few will always receive the highest honors . Everyone in this class , and I mean EVERYONE will always know exactly how they got to where they are. They will never be able to hide from it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/22/19 02:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are many of kids right here in MD that are thought of to be the best at this age! Many of them should be 2021 and have been playing their correct age or year up 2020. Now they must fall back to where they actually are grade wise. Like it or not these select few will always receive the highest honors . Everyone in this class , and I mean EVERYONE will always know exactly how they got to where they are. They will never be able to hide from it.


Yawn.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/22/19 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are many of kids right here in MD that are thought of to be the best at this age! Many of them should be 2021 and have been playing their correct age or year up 2020. Now they must fall back to where they actually are grade wise. Like it or not these select few will always receive the highest honors . Everyone in this class , and I mean EVERYONE will always know exactly how they got to where they are. They will never be able to hide from it.


Yawn.


As a parent of an on-age player, who cares? The "on-age" 2022 players are in 9th grade now. Many of the best on-age players will play varsity this year against players 3 years older, maybe more. I don't know any of those kids who are complaining about it. Most are looking forward to it! The only people who are still complaining about it at this point are the parents who pay way to much money to watch their kids sit behind an entire team full of playbacks at a private school, or parents who spend way to much to watch their kids sit behind playbacks on certain club teams. There are plenty of on-age players who are still the top players in Maryland despite the hold-back crap. Stop complaining and just PLAY! You are teaching your kid to make excuses by example now! If your kid is not playing, then stop approaching lacrosse like it is a popularity contest and move to a club or school where they will play! Legitimately complaining about hold-backs ends when they all can grow a mustache.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/22/19 08:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are many of kids right here in MD that are thought of to be the best at this age! Many of them should be 2021 and have been playing their correct age or year up 2020. Now they must fall back to where they actually are grade wise. Like it or not these select few will always receive the highest honors . Everyone in this class , and I mean EVERYONE will always know exactly how they got to where they are. They will never be able to hide from it.


Yawn.


As a parent of an on-age player, who cares? The "on-age" 2022 players are in 9th grade now. Many of the best on-age players will play varsity this year against players 3 years older, maybe more. I don't know any of those kids who are complaining about it. Most are looking forward to it! The only people who are still complaining about it at this point are the parents who pay way to much money to watch their kids sit behind an entire team full of playbacks at a private school, or parents who spend way to much to watch their kids sit behind playbacks on certain club teams. There are plenty of on-age players who are still the top players in Maryland despite the hold-back crap. Stop complaining and just PLAY! You are teaching your kid to make excuses by example now! If your kid is not playing, then stop approaching lacrosse like it is a popularity contest and move to a club or school where they will play! Legitimately complaining about hold-backs ends when they all can grow a mustache.


Discussing hold backs is passe in high school. Focus your son's attention on his stick skills, strength and endurance all of which he'll need to succeed in his upcoming tryouts. Some kids peak out in 8th, 9th and 10th grades and never process further. Others don't peak until they're upperclassmen in high school. A couple are real late bloomers and explode in college (usually multi sport athletes that are relatively late to the game of lacrosse). The bigger issue is getting on the field and not being a practice player. Don't let your freshmen be talked into being a non front line reserve on a varsity team. Development for underclassmen is 75% game time PT not practice reps no matter what the HC tells you. Plenty of freshmen who starred on a JV or F/S squad have ultimately lapped some player who made varsity his first year in high school.

Reality: If your son is good enough (tough to tell as a parent), make sure he has a great head and position coach and has a reasonable chance of PT (don't put him in a situation where he's behind a D1 AA can't miss recruit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/22/19 09:06 PM
Agreed. It's not against the rules and most kids benefit in sports and in the classroom. The holdback argument has lost a lot of steam.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/23/19 05:34 PM
Just love the get over it,,,its High School now. Time to move on with the holdback game. Three ways to be the best..Be First..Be smarter..Cheat ..I would say holdbacks get two out of three before the game starts! little joke from Margin Call

It is still an advantage for many, of course not all.. By the time they get to 11 or 12 majority of advantage is over. But there is still an slight advantage for multitude of reasons..,,Ever wonder why there is a PG year for many top players?? Of course its all within the rules and you go against kids 4 years older your first year in HS..well 3 years older if you are a holdback.

Lacrosse has been become the poster child with what is wrong in YOUTH sports. More so then other youth sports. Several have some warts, but top youth lacrosse is over the top with older for their grade children.

Maryland Private High Schools are the poster childs for what is wrong with lacrosse no matter how you spin it.GReat Lacrosse tainted by everyone wondering who is a holdback . If holdbacks were a rarity or even a little above average compared to other sports no one would care. It is a epidemic that is out of control. Just seems wrong ..Common sense. But it is within the rules and holdbacks will be growing in numbers every year,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/23/19 08:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just love the get over it,,,its High School now. Time to move on with the holdback game. Three ways to be the best..Be First..Be smarter..Cheat ..I would say holdbacks get two out of three before the game starts! little joke from Margin Call

It is still an advantage for many, of course not all.. By the time they get to 11 or 12 majority of advantage is over. But there is still an slight advantage for multitude of reasons..,,Ever wonder why there is a PG year for many top players?? Of course its all within the rules and you go against kids 4 years older your first year in HS..well 3 years older if you are a holdback.

Lacrosse has been become the poster child with what is wrong in YOUTH sports. More so then other youth sports. Several have some warts, but top youth lacrosse is over the top with older for their grade children.

Maryland Private High Schools are the poster childs for what is wrong with lacrosse no matter how you spin it.GReat Lacrosse tainted by everyone wondering who is a holdback . If holdbacks were a rarity or even a little above average compared to other sports no one would care. It is a epidemic that is out of control. Just seems wrong ..Common sense. But it is within the rules and holdbacks will be growing in numbers every year,


It has not really impacting my on-age player, especially now that my on-age player is bigger than most holdbacks. Just glad they stopped recruiting 6th graders!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/24/19 12:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just love the get over it,,,its High School now. Time to move on with the holdback game. Three ways to be the best..Be First..Be smarter..Cheat ..I would say holdbacks get two out of three before the game starts! little joke from Margin Call

It is still an advantage for many, of course not all.. By the time they get to 11 or 12 majority of advantage is over. But there is still an slight advantage for multitude of reasons..,,Ever wonder why there is a PG year for many top players?? Of course its all within the rules and you go against kids 4 years older your first year in HS..well 3 years older if you are a holdback.

Lacrosse has been become the poster child with what is wrong in YOUTH sports. More so then other youth sports. Several have some warts, but top youth lacrosse is over the top with older for their grade children.

Maryland Private High Schools are the poster childs for what is wrong with lacrosse no matter how you spin it.GReat Lacrosse tainted by everyone wondering who is a holdback . If holdbacks were a rarity or even a little above average compared to other sports no one would care. It is a epidemic that is out of control. Just seems wrong ..Common sense. But it is within the rules and holdbacks will be growing in numbers every year,

No one is wondering who the holdbacks are. It is common knowledge who they are. The kids on their own teams talk to other kids. We’ve seen the 2021s become 2022s and the 2022s become 2023s. It just serves as a conversation asterisk when the kid makes a great play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/24/19 01:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just love the get over it,,,its High School now. Time to move on with the holdback game. Three ways to be the best..Be First..Be smarter..Cheat ..I would say holdbacks get two out of three before the game starts! little joke from Margin Call

It is still an advantage for many, of course not all.. By the time they get to 11 or 12 majority of advantage is over. But there is still an slight advantage for multitude of reasons..,,Ever wonder why there is a PG year for many top players?? Of course its all within the rules and you go against kids 4 years older your first year in HS..well 3 years older if you are a holdback.

Lacrosse has been become the poster child with what is wrong in YOUTH sports. More so then other youth sports. Several have some warts, but top youth lacrosse is over the top with older for their grade children.

Maryland Private High Schools are the poster childs for what is wrong with lacrosse no matter how you spin it.GReat Lacrosse tainted by everyone wondering who is a holdback . If holdbacks were a rarity or even a little above average compared to other sports no one would care. It is a epidemic that is out of control. Just seems wrong ..Common sense. But it is within the rules and holdbacks will be growing in numbers every year,

No one is wondering who the holdbacks are. It is common knowledge who they are. The kids on their own teams talk to other kids. We’ve seen the 2021s become 2022s and the 2022s become 2023s. It just serves as a conversation asterisk when the kid makes a great play.


I'll take the asterisk while my kid goes to an Ivy or a Michigan while yours goes to SUNY.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/24/19 07:20 PM
Ivy ain't happening for your kid--they recruit the latest and by that time the holdback (size) advantage is pretty much gone.... So it may be better for your holdback to join the school play or do band to increase his extracurricular activities so that his chances to getting into a decent college improve.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/24/19 10:13 PM
Says the kid who will be leading the charge at intramurals in college. Go check the rosters of kids actually playing in D1 and let me know how many are closer in age to 9/1 and older. I'll save you the trouble. It's well over 50%. Also, go check the test scores of kids who are older. Let me help you out. They are significantly higher than those who are younger. Older kids have an advantage. Go read up on the subject junior or go back to practicing your fortnite dances.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/25/19 03:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Says the kid who will be leading the charge at intramurals in college. Go check the rosters of kids actually playing in D1 and let me know how many are closer in age to 9/1 and older. I'll save you the trouble. It's well over 50%. Also, go check the test scores of kids who are older. Let me help you out. They are significantly higher than those who are younger. Older kids have an advantage. Go read up on the subject junior or go back to practicing your fortnite dances.

Guys like you don’t get nearly enough credit for recognizing when their kid just can’t compete with his peers. Most will blame the coach or the teammates, but kudos for recognizing that it was junior who wasn’t cutting it. Hold him back to play with the younger kids so he can experience a taste of success that otherwise would have eluded him. Bravo sir. Not enough dads of marginal players are as astute as you are. It must be that BL education.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/25/19 11:19 AM
Actually, there are plenty of parents as astute as him and his stats are correct. The success of BL and others like it have contributed to the trend. It's not going away.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/25/19 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Says the kid who will be leading the charge at intramurals in college. Go check the rosters of kids actually playing in D1 and let me know how many are closer in age to 9/1 and older. I'll save you the trouble. It's well over 50%. Also, go check the test scores of kids who are older. Let me help you out. They are significantly higher than those who are younger. Older kids have an advantage. Go read up on the subject junior or go back to practicing your fortnite dances.


Can we see the same scientific study results for D3 schools, kids who decide not to play in college at age 25, drop out, or get GEDs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/25/19 04:22 PM
???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/28/19 03:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Says the kid who will be leading the charge at intramurals in college. Go check the rosters of kids actually playing in D1 and let me know how many are closer in age to 9/1 and older. I'll save you the trouble. It's well over 50%. Also, go check the test scores of kids who are older. Let me help you out. They are significantly higher than those who are younger. Older kids have an advantage. Go read up on the subject junior or go back to practicing your fortnite dances.

Guys like you don’t get nearly enough credit for recognizing when their kid just can’t compete with his peers. Most will blame the coach or the teammates, but kudos for recognizing that it was junior who wasn’t cutting it. Hold him back to play with the younger kids so he can experience a taste of success that otherwise would have eluded him. Bravo sir. Not enough dads of marginal players are as astute as you are. It must be that BL education.


Funny Stuff ! MIAA teams are loaded with boys who followed that advice.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 01/28/19 03:52 PM
Did anyone take their sons to the Maryland Prospect Camp on Sunday? How was it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 02/05/19 03:51 PM
2022 is a very talented age group. Very excited to see ALL play in High School . Maryland and local areas has the best all around leagues to play in from week to week. MIAA, DC IAC, DCWCAC, AA, Howard and Baltimore Public Schools. Get behind your kid and their school and enjoy a good to start to the entire 2022 class.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 02/26/19 12:15 PM
Any 2022 players make varsity as a freshman this year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 02/26/19 03:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any 2022 players make varsity as a freshman this year?


10 made SJC varsity roster but I think their roster is over 40 kids so I'm not sure how much PT kids will get. Program has very few 2021s.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 02/28/19 03:18 AM
This is why lacrosse families are so sad. Get a life out in the real world where lacrosse won't cut it. Read a book.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/01/19 12:54 AM
Team 91 has two freshman make varsity at McD and one at St. Pauls. All three are not holdbacks which is very impressive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/01/19 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 has two freshman make varsity at McD and one at St. Pauls. All three are not holdbacks which is very impressive.


2 poles very good

Did all the Hawks kids make varsity?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/01/19 04:28 PM
serious question- for any parents that held their kids back in middle school, whether it was for academics, athletics, maturity, whatever- was it worth it? would you do it again
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/01/19 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
serious question- for any parents that held their kids back in middle school, whether it was for academics, athletics, maturity, whatever- was it worth it? would you do it again


No, its fools gold. Kids need to struggle: making it easier for them early on doesn't do them any favors down the road in life. Kids need to fail, get cut to learn the realities of the real world. The sooner they do, the better off they are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/01/19 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 has two freshman make varsity at McD and one at St. Pauls. All three are not holdbacks which is very impressive.


2 poles very good

Did all the Hawks kids make varsity?

No
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/01/19 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 has two freshman make varsity at McD and one at St. Pauls. All three are not holdbacks which is very impressive.


2 poles very good

Did all the Hawks kids make varsity?

No


Not everyone makes varsity or chooses to stay up on varsity. If a freshman has the option to get 100% of the PT on a competitive JV team with good coaches versus sitting 100% of the time on stacked varsity, I would posit the JV option is a better one. Some programs have great JV coaching staffs and others use it as a source of secondary income for their teachers. Caveat Emptor.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/01/19 08:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is why lacrosse families are so sad. Get a life out in the real world where lacrosse won't cut it. Read a book.


Yet here you are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/01/19 08:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 has two freshman make varsity at McD and one at St. Pauls. All three are not holdbacks which is very impressive.


2 poles very good

Did all the Hawks kids make varsity?

No


Not everyone makes varsity or chooses to stay up on varsity. If a freshman has the option to get 100% of the PT on a competitive JV team with good coaches versus sitting 100% of the time on stacked varsity, I would posit the JV option is a better one. Some programs have great JV coaching staffs and others use it as a source of secondary income for their teachers. Caveat Emptor.


Nice concept but you clearly do not know how special these Hawks and their coaches are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/01/19 10:13 PM
I don’t disagree about JV playing time. But the decision is really the V coaches to make. If he wants your son up, that’s probably what’s best for him as the coaches know exactly what the pros and cons are.

I’m not sure who doesn’t choose to stay up?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/02/19 03:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
serious question- for any parents that held their kids back in middle school, whether it was for academics, athletics, maturity, whatever- was it worth it? would you do it again


Completely worth it. D1 is loaded with holdbacks...Look at any college roster with birthdays.. Minimum 25% are Holdbacks on most D1 teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/03/19 09:28 PM
For academics it makes a greater impact to be younger a year or 2. To be younger and have accomplished academically is a huge plus especially in job searches and hiring.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/03/19 10:10 PM
What is a guess player?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/04/19 12:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a guess player?

The answer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/04/19 02:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a guess player?

He is the player who shows up five minutes before the game. While you are waiting to watch your son "start" he is handed a jersey from the trunk of the coaches car. He then takes your son's position on the field. While he is scoring most of the teams goals, the rest of the parents "guess" what his name is.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/04/19 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a guess player?

He is the player who shows up five minutes before the game. While you are waiting to watch your son "start" he is handed a jersey from the trunk of the coaches car. He then takes your son's position on the field. While he is scoring most of the teams goals, the rest of the parents "guess" what his name is.


LOL!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/04/19 04:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t disagree about JV playing time. But the decision is really the V coaches to make. If he wants your son up, that’s probably what’s best for him as the coaches know exactly what the pros and cons are.

I’m not sure who doesn’t choose to stay up?


The HC worries about the varsity team not your son's individual development. "Best for him" is pretty far down on the priority list. If the HC wants a great "scout team", he keeps him up. In the old days freshmen never made varsity unless they were playing. Otherwise you played on JV and got enough high school game experience to help you develop.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/04/19 08:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with Hawks and API all going to the same high school? The two teams merging? Hawks HC coaching the JV?


Spalding will be really good next year


Will win MIAA


Are you saying they will win the MIAA Varsity because of the 2022 API and hawks class coming in?
maybe JV


JV this year easy... Next year playoffs MIAA Varsity... Following year MIAA Champions ..


Sounds like wishful thinking! They've had a lot of talent come there over the last few years and it has amounted to nothing in the MIAA Varsity.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/05/19 10:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t disagree about JV playing time. But the decision is really the V coaches to make. If he wants your son up, that’s probably what’s best for him as the coaches know exactly what the pros and cons are.

I’m not sure who doesn’t choose to stay up?


The HC worries about the varsity team not your son's individual development. "Best for him" is pretty far down on the priority list. If the HC wants a great "scout team", he keeps him up. In the old days freshmen never made varsity unless they were playing. Otherwise you played on JV and got enough high school game experience to help you develop.


Good coaches at every level worry about player development. Freshman players who are talented enough to be impact players their sophomore and Junior years can also be brought up to varsity, so they can learn the system and practice against bigger, stronger, faster, higher caliber players. They may play a lot, or they might get time in varsity games where a win or loss cant be placed on their shoulders. Either way, they still develop and are prepared to be impact players for their team. If a coach doesn't see that value in a player, then they stay on JV to develop. If they do not develop into an impact player on JV as a freshman, then they MIGHT play 2 years of varsity lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/06/19 03:14 PM
I have two words for you: Pat Spencer. 2 years of JV lacrosse. Don't think it hurt him too much! Best wishes to all!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/06/19 08:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have two words for you: Pat Spencer. 2 years of JV lacrosse. Don't think it hurt him too much! Best wishes to all!



Those two years are why Loyola lost to Towson.

wink
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/06/19 10:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have two words for you: Pat Spencer. 2 years of JV lacrosse. Don't think it hurt him too much! Best wishes to all!



Those two years are why Loyola lost to Towson.

wink


Actually defender for Towson, who limited him to 1 goal, was on the fresh/soph team at LB in 9th
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/06/19 11:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 has two freshman make varsity at McD and one at St. Pauls. All three are not holdbacks which is very impressive.


2 poles very good

Did all the Hawks kids make varsity?

No


Not everyone makes varsity or chooses to stay up on varsity. If a freshman has the option to get 100% of the PT on a competitive JV team with good coaches versus sitting 100% of the time on stacked varsity, I would posit the JV option is a better one. Some programs have great JV coaching staffs and others use it as a source of secondary income for their teachers. Caveat Emptor.


Nice concept but you clearly do not know how special these Hawks and their coaches are.


Or you don't know how bad Spalding is. They may be bad enough to put a few of these freshmen on varsity.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/06/19 11:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually defender for Towson, who limited him to 1 goal, was on the fresh/soph team at LB in 9th


Amazing that he is allowed to play Division 1 lacrosse - let alone be on the top ranked team in the country.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/07/19 07:20 PM
Love it. All hail the late bloomer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/08/19 01:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Love it. All hail the late bloomer.


Love late bloomers... always a feel good story. But it is rare. Most of the players were good from the start.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/08/19 03:02 PM
I wouldn't call Pat Spencer a late bloomer. His coach said he knew he was a D1 player even as a sophomore, but they had 5 D1 commits at his position who were juniors or seniors.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/08/19 03:02 PM
Unless you are playing attack were you need better stick skills any real good athlete can step in and play lacrosse.
If you have good feet , good field awareness and have good work ethic to put in extra work on the wall you can pick up lacrosse pretty quick. I had a few friends who did not play until high school and they went on to play college lacrosse.
Brendan Looney did not play high school and walked on at Navy. That is rare but can be done.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/08/19 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Brendan Looney did not play high school and walked on at Navy. That is rare but can be done.


A lot rarer these days I think. The across the board skill level of kids playing in college is much higher than it was 15 years ago.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 03/10/19 09:35 PM
Agree. It's greedy club coaches who think you need to play club lacrosse in 2nd grade. Lacrosse is not that difficult for a good athlete. Especially defense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 05/21/19 11:20 AM
Any surprise teams this summer with the 2022’s after first year of high school under their belt? Practicing every day vs 1 or 2 days a week. Or is it the same old top teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 05/30/19 05:13 PM
A lot of SJC Freshmen played against Gonzaga in WCAC final this year. Will those kids offset loss of two excellent players? Those kids may make big impact on club scene this Summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 05/31/19 11:27 AM
Spalding’s Phipps coaching the UA command team wonder how many Hawks make the team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/02/19 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spalding’s Phipps coaching the UA command team wonder how many Hawks make the team?


Shocking! It’s almost as if the line up is pre determined before try outs occur.

Unless your coach is connected and “encourages” you to try out, just assume you will not make it and you are just dontating to the events organizers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/02/19 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Brendan Looney did not play high school and walked on at Navy. That is rare but can be done.


A lot rarer these days I think. The across the board skill level of kids playing in college is much higher than it was 15 years ago.


It depends on the position. Some roles can’t be picked up easier than others.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/02/19 10:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Brendan Looney did not play high school and walked on at Navy. That is rare but can be done.


A lot rarer these days I think. The across the board skill level of kids playing in college is much higher than it was 15 years ago.


It depends on the position. Some roles can’t be picked up easier than others.


Which ones?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/03/19 01:01 PM
I thought NLF is an A level tournament. What is United doing there?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/03/19 02:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spalding’s Phipps coaching the UA command team wonder how many Hawks make the team?


Shocking! It’s almost as if the line up is pre determined before try outs occur.

Unless your coach is connected and “encourages” you to try out, just assume you will not make it and you are just dontating to the events organizers.


The HC is the Koopers coach, The evaluators are all from local well known clubs. Unless you're 6-2 and run a 4.6 forty, you can forget about beating out the "anointed" ones (club team members, friends and family). One or two kids from a public school will be selected to make the process look fair. Everyone else on this team has been pre-selected by the cartel. If the two star freshmen attackmen from the spring go out for this team, look for it to run through the Command Division.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/03/19 05:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought NLF is an A level tournament. What is United doing there?


So you pick out one team from the field to question the level of the tournament? Dynamite investigative work there
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/17/19 10:43 AM
Hawks get it done again!! Those boys are ballers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/17/19 12:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks get it done again!! Those boys are ballers.


Nice win for them but next weekend has 10 of the top 20 teams at Crabs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/17/19 01:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought NLF is an A level tournament. What is United doing there?


So you pick out one team from the field to question the level of the tournament? Dynamite investigative work there

Beating the Crabs & Big 4 HHH
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/18/19 02:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought NLF is an A level tournament. What is United doing there?


So you pick out one team from the field to question the level of the tournament? Dynamite investigative work there

Beating the Crabs & Big 4 HHH


OUCH !!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/23/19 05:39 PM
How did the Hawks do at Crabfeast this weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/23/19 07:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did the Hawks do at Crabfeast this weekend?


Blew everyone out the 1st day in the weakest bracket, then easily knocked out of the playoffs in the 1st game by 3D NE.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/23/19 08:46 PM
Lost "easily" 6-4 with the game at 5-4 deep in the 4th to the eventual champion. How many times did the Hawks cut your kid?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/23/19 09:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lost "easily" 6-4 with the game at 5-4 deep in the 4th to the eventual champion. How many times did the Hawks cut your kid?


Don’t sweat it. At least you can count on a great bracket and seeding at Naptown.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/23/19 09:27 PM
How did FCA do at crab feast?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/23/19 10:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did the Hawks do at Crabfeast this weekend?


Blew everyone out the 1st day in the weakest bracket, then easily knocked out of the playoffs in the 1st game by 3D NE.



wow, the boys must have approached today's games with a cavalier attitude
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/23/19 10:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lost "easily" 6-4 with the game at 5-4 deep in the 4th to the eventual champion. How many times did the Hawks cut your kid?


Don’t sweat it. At least you can count on a great bracket and seeding at Naptown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lost "easily" 6-4 with the game at 5-4 deep in the 4th to the eventual champion. How many times did the Hawks cut your kid?


Don’t sweat it. At least you can count on a great bracket and seeding at Naptown.


So, three years in a row. Must be a glutton for punishment. Your poor son!.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/24/19 12:12 AM
How did the hawks lose when half their made Baltimore DC UA teams? Oh forgot daddy ball helps make up those teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 06/25/19 09:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spalding’s Phipps coaching the UA command team wonder how many Hawks make the team?


Shocking! It’s almost as if the line up is pre determined before try outs occur.

Unless your coach is connected and “encourages” you to try out, just assume you will not make it and you are just dontating to the events organizers.


The HC is the Koopers coach, The evaluators are all from local well known clubs. Unless you're 6-2 and run a 4.6 forty, you can forget about beating out the "anointed" ones (club team members, friends and family). One or two kids from a public school will be selected to make the process look fair. Everyone else on this team has been pre-selected by the cartel. If the two star freshmen attackmen from the spring go out for this team, look for it to run through the Command Division.


There was a pole from St, Paul's that fit the above description and another big kid from Crabs on attack who played the entire call back game and shockingly neither made the final team. It is what it is, but at the end of the day these boys are still being seen by coaches and the who's who in Baltimore.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/09/19 10:48 PM
Lots of good competition today at Naptown
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/10/19 09:02 PM
Hawks getting exposed on TV Naptown players yelling at each other. You set it up to walk into the finals play nobody. Beat the same team twice. Never got tested now get blown out in the finals is priceless. Coach can’t protect his team now. Cant t wait for the photos on Facebook to show a different game lol. #HWPO or #Daddy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/10/19 11:53 PM
Hawks 2022 need to get some more Holdbacks. butt kicking at Naptown. Daddyball at its best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/11/19 02:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of good competition today at Naptown


Who won?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/11/19 02:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of good competition today at Naptown


Who won?


Daddy ball Ripley got bested by Daddy Ball Spalina.....boo hoo!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/11/19 09:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of good competition today at Naptown


Who won?


Daddy ball Ripley got bested by Daddy Ball Spalina.....boo hoo!!!


Close game?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/12/19 04:07 AM
Wow! Chaney bit the dust, back to B+ team!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/12/19 09:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of good competition today at Naptown


Who won?


Daddy ball Ripley got bested by Daddy Ball Spalina.....boo hoo!!!


Close game?


No. 9-2
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/14/19 02:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of good competition today at Naptown


Who won?


Daddy ball Ripley got bested by Daddy Ball Spalina.....boo hoo!!!


With what Spallina did I would be Daddy balling too with that boy he is some player Single handily embarrassed the Hawks D Hawks offense was a joke and coaches exposed. Many of those Hawks player will be switching clubs My son plays in a D.C. Area club and it will be interesting to see how it plays out
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/14/19 04:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of good competition today at Naptown


Who won?


Daddy ball Ripley got bested by Daddy Ball Spalina.....boo hoo!!!


Someone’s Jelly that their kids team didn’t make the Championship. Poor little Johnnie.

Coaches are still calling.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/14/19 04:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of good competition today at Naptown


Who won?


Daddy ball Ripley got bested by Daddy Ball Spalina.....boo hoo!!!


With what Spallina did I would be Daddy balling too with that boy he is some player Single handily embarrassed the Hawks D Hawks offense was a joke and coaches exposed. Many of those Hawks player will be switching clubs My son plays in a D.C. Area club and it will be interesting to see how it plays out


Trying to figure out your logic. Why would they join clubs that can’t even make it to the Championship game? Hawks lost 2 games this summer and it wasn’t to Maryland Clubs. Hater. Lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/14/19 07:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks getting exposed on TV Naptown players yelling at each other. You set it up to walk into the finals play nobody. Beat the same team twice. Never got tested now get blown out in the finals is priceless. Coach can’t protect his team now. Cant t wait for the photos on Facebook to show a different game lol. #HWPO or #Daddy.


Poor guys where relegated to watching the Championship on TV. Hawks still undefeated against Maryland Clubs. When is your sons club gonna catch up? I’m sure you didn’t know your coach has been busy working the phone trying to get Hawks to play on your team at NLF. Lol. Poor kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/16/19 12:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks getting exposed on TV Naptown players yelling at each other. You set it up to walk into the finals play nobody. Beat the same team twice. Never got tested now get blown out in the finals is priceless. Coach can’t protect his team now. Cant t wait for the photos on Facebook to show a different game lol. #HWPO or #Daddy.


Poor guys where relegated to watching the Championship on TV. Hawks still undefeated against Maryland Clubs. When is your sons club gonna catch up? I’m sure you didn’t know your coach has been busy working the phone trying to get Hawks to play on your team at NLF. Lol. Poor kids.


Hawks undefeated against Maryland teams big deal. What Maryland teams have they beaten? My sons team can say the same. As many other Maryland clubs can say the same thing. Not a lot of Maryland teams playing Maryland teams this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/16/19 04:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks getting exposed on TV Naptown players yelling at each other. You set it up to walk into the finals play nobody. Beat the same team twice. Never got tested now get blown out in the finals is priceless. Coach can’t protect his team now. Cant t wait for the photos on Facebook to show a different game lol. #HWPO or #Daddy.


Poor guys where relegated to watching the Championship on TV. Hawks still undefeated against Maryland Clubs. When is your sons club gonna catch up? I’m sure you didn’t know your coach has been busy working the phone trying to get Hawks to play on your team at NLF. Lol. Poor kids.


Hawks undefeated against Maryland teams big deal. What Maryland teams have they beaten? My sons team can say the same. As many other Maryland clubs can say the same thing. Not a lot of Maryland teams playing Maryland teams this summer.



Seems you guys on here only talk about the Hawks. Let’s talk about your sons team for a change. What team is he on?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/16/19 02:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks getting exposed on TV Naptown players yelling at each other. You set it up to walk into the finals play nobody. Beat the same team twice. Never got tested now get blown out in the finals is priceless. Coach can’t protect his team now. Cant t wait for the photos on Facebook to show a different game lol. #HWPO or #Daddy.


Poor guys where relegated to watching the Championship on TV. Hawks still undefeated against Maryland Clubs. When is your sons club gonna catch up? I’m sure you didn’t know your coach has been busy working the phone trying to get Hawks to play on your team at NLF. Lol. Poor kids.


Hawks undefeated against Maryland teams big deal. What Maryland teams have they beaten? My sons team can say the same. As many other Maryland clubs can say the same thing. Not a lot of Maryland teams playing Maryland teams this summer.


Hawks had a head to head scheduled with the 2022 Crabs but lost to NE 3D in the play in game. They didn't even make it to the semis in Crab Feast. Most tournament organizers aren't grouping MD teams together so if you don't advance to the medal rounds you won't play each other.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/16/19 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks getting exposed on TV Naptown players yelling at each other. You set it up to walk into the finals play nobody. Beat the same team twice. Never got tested now get blown out in the finals is priceless. Coach can’t protect his team now. Cant t wait for the photos on Facebook to show a different game lol. #HWPO or #Daddy.


Poor guys where relegated to watching the Championship on TV. Hawks still undefeated against Maryland Clubs. When is your sons club gonna catch up? I’m sure you didn’t know your coach has been busy working the phone trying to get Hawks to play on your team at NLF. Lol. Poor kids.



First might want to answer the question ...Why doesnt the Hawks play in the NLF ???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/20/19 10:11 AM
Why are the hawks best players playing with crabs this weekend @nlf? Did they leave the hawks?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/20/19 09:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks getting exposed on TV Naptown players yelling at each other. You set it up to walk into the finals play nobody. Beat the same team twice. Never got tested now get blown out in the finals is priceless. Coach can’t protect his team now. Cant t wait for the photos on Facebook to show a different game lol. #HWPO or #Daddy.


Poor guys where relegated to watching the Championship on TV. Hawks still undefeated against Maryland Clubs. When is your sons club gonna catch up? I’m sure you didn’t know your coach has been busy working the phone trying to get Hawks to play on your team at NLF. Lol. Poor kids.



First might want to answer the question ...Why doesnt the Hawks play in the NLF ???


Only year they haven't went to NLF- First Hawks team to be accepted to even play at the NLF and has been there every year except this one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/20/19 09:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are the hawks best players playing with crabs this weekend @nlf? Did they leave the hawks?



Really?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/20/19 09:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of good competition today at Naptown


Who won?


Daddy ball Ripley got bested by Daddy Ball Spalina.....boo hoo!!!


With what Spallina did I would be Daddy balling too with that boy he is some player Single handily embarrassed the Hawks D Hawks offense was a joke and coaches exposed. Many of those Hawks player will be switching clubs My son plays in a D.C. Area club and it will be interesting to see how it plays out



How it plays out? bwahaha
lets all bash a team then accept any players that jump ship with open arms. You better pray some players jump ship and come to DC teams because they all stink
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/21/19 06:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are the hawks best players playing with crabs this weekend @nlf? Did they leave the hawks?



Really?


The Crabs 2022 didn't make it past the NLF National Club Championship quarters. Barely knocked off Big 4 HHH and only scored 3 versus Laxachusetts: The Crabs 2020 and 2021 teams didn't fare any better. Too much Old Bay in the heat up at Zoo. Wouldn't want to be around the King Crab tonight. He might jump out of the steamer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/21/19 10:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are the hawks best players playing with crabs this weekend @nlf? Did they leave the hawks?



Really?


The Crabs 2022 didn't make it past the NLF National Club Championship quarters. Barely knocked off Big 4 HHH and only scored 3 versus Laxachusetts: The Crabs 2020 and 2021 teams didn't fare any better. Too much Old Bay in the heat up at Zoo. Wouldn't want to be around the King Crab tonight. He might jump out of the steamer.


This clearly sounds like it was written by an eleven year old, a very immature at that. Or it was written by an adult with the IQ and social skills of a child. This is why people who write this garbage like an anonymous venue, to hide their identity. Simply pathetic.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/22/19 12:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are the hawks best players playing with crabs this weekend @nlf? Did they leave the hawks?



Really?


The Crabs 2022 didn't make it past the NLF National Club Championship quarters. Barely knocked off Big 4 HHH and only scored 3 versus Laxachusetts: The Crabs 2020 and 2021 teams didn't fare any better. Too much Old Bay in the heat up at Zoo. Wouldn't want to be around the King Crab tonight. He might jump out of the steamer.


Jealous of not making Crabs. Their 2020. 2021,2022, 2023 all suffered one lost out of 4-5 games against some of best competition in country !! 3 out 4 were in the playoffs.... OMG !! The Horror !!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/22/19 11:24 AM
Hawks playing for Crabs at NLF. Smh. Wow!! Crabs don’t play hogan tournaments. Hawks showing up at different tryouts what has happened to that team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/22/19 01:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are the hawks best players playing with crabs this weekend @nlf? Did they leave the hawks?


One kid played for Crabs this weekend. Maybe he's sick of Ripley daddy ball and looking for a better experience.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/22/19 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are the hawks best players playing with crabs this weekend @nlf? Did they leave the hawks?



Really?


The Crabs 2022 didn't make it past the NLF National Club Championship quarters. Barely knocked off Big 4 HHH and only scored 3 versus Laxachusetts: The Crabs 2020 and 2021 teams didn't fare any better. Too much Old Bay in the heat up at Zoo. Wouldn't want to be around the King Crab tonight. He might jump out of the steamer.


Yeah they went 4-1 and outscored their opponents 37-19 this weekend. Correct they didn't play all that well againt Laxachussetts, but Laxachusetts only lost in semi's by a goal. And the HHH team they squeaked by on Saturday was not the same HHH team as Friday. HHH brought in a few players for the weekend and only lost to Crabs on Saturday and Sunday.

Sorry FCA wasn't invited. Didn't Clams take you guys to overtime a few weeks ago. Crabs beat them 10-1 Friday. King Crab feels just fine. His team lost by a goal in the championship.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/22/19 01:57 PM
2022 Crabs team has never won anything. Players and coaches are a revolving door tournament to tournament. Now thier greatest accomplishment is losing one goal games. Lol wow have the mighty have falling.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/22/19 02:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 Crabs team has never won anything. Players and coaches are a revolving door tournament to tournament. Now thier greatest accomplishment is losing one goal games. Lol wow have the mighty have falling.


Bitter and Jealous are not good qualities. Didnt your parents teach you that ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/22/19 04:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 Crabs team has never won anything. Players and coaches are a revolving door tournament to tournament. Now thier greatest accomplishment is losing one goal games. Lol wow have the mighty have falling.


Maybe they should have played in a ton of B level tournaments through the years to get some wins like the other big Baltimore based team did. Must have been so sweet to win Beach lax in summer before 8th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/23/19 02:15 AM
Problem was most of the 2022 kids reclassed to 2023. This happens to every crab team at this age
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/23/19 10:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Problem was most of the 2022 kids reclassed to 2023. This happens to every crab team at this age


Now Now . 70% are prefirst or have already been heldback. Reclass effects 30% of team usually. Try to get your facts straight.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/23/19 01:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 Crabs team has never won anything. Players and coaches are a revolving door tournament to tournament. Now thier greatest accomplishment is losing one goal games. Lol wow have the mighty have falling.


Bitter and Jealous are not good qualities. Didnt your parents teach you that ?


When an organization is beginning to tank, its leaders, their sycophants and deluded supporters all proclaim, "never mind about the man behind the curtain, there is no naked elephant in the room". The sun has set on the Baltimore Chapter of the Crustacean Empire and I don't see it rebounding anytime soon.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/23/19 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 Crabs team has never won anything. Players and coaches are a revolving door tournament to tournament. Now thier greatest accomplishment is losing one goal games. Lol wow have the mighty have falling.


Bitter and Jealous are not good qualities. Didnt your parents teach you that ?


When an organization is beginning to tank, its leaders, their sycophants and deluded supporters all proclaim, "never mind about the man behind the curtain, there is no naked elephant in the room". The sun has set on the Baltimore Chapter of the Crustacean Empire and I don't see it rebounding anytime soon.


The oldest 4 Crabs teams went 16-4 this weekend. You are right. They are really struggling.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/23/19 07:21 PM
Dave Cottle coaching with Hawks 2022 team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/23/19 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 Crabs team has never won anything. Players and coaches are a revolving door tournament to tournament. Now thier greatest accomplishment is losing one goal games. Lol wow have the mighty have falling.


Bitter and Jealous are not good qualities. Didnt your parents teach you that ?


When an organization is beginning to tank, its leaders, their sycophants and deluded supporters all proclaim, "never mind about the man behind the curtain, there is no naked elephant in the room". The sun has set on the Baltimore Chapter of the Crustacean Empire and I don't see it rebounding anytime soon.


The oldest 4 Crabs teams went 16-4 this weekend. You are right. They are really struggling.


They are no longer the best club in the Mid-Atlantic region and in danger of being a distant second going forward in MD. Keep looking in your rear view mirror: Living in the past....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/24/19 01:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 Crabs team has never won anything. Players and coaches are a revolving door tournament to tournament. Now thier greatest accomplishment is losing one goal games. Lol wow have the mighty have falling.

Bitter and Jealous are not good qualities. Didnt your parents teach you that ?

When an organization is beginning to tank, its leaders, their sycophants and deluded supporters all proclaim, "never mind about the man behind the curtain, there is no naked elephant in the room". The sun has set on the Baltimore Chapter of the Crustacean Empire and I don't see it rebounding anytime soon.

The oldest 4 Crabs teams went 16-4 this weekend. You are right. They are really struggling.


They are no longer the best club in the Mid-Atlantic region and in danger of being a distant second going forward in MD. Keep looking in your rear view mirror: Living in the past....


The may not be the best . But they are one of the best Clubs still. Parity is here for Clubs . The old days of only one or two dominant Club teams is gone, just like the old days of a few D1 teams winning the title every year.

I am sure King Crabby knows this.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/27/19 04:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dave Cottle coaching with Hawks 2022 team?


Is this team still considered to be "daddy ball"? Looks like they have more coaches that are not dads. I counted 7 coaches at Naptown and now they add an 8th. Only 2 have players on team. Daddy ball?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/27/19 10:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dave Cottle coaching with Hawks 2022 team?


Is this team still considered to be "daddy ball"? Looks like they have more coaches that are not dads. I counted 7 coaches at Naptown and now they add an 8th. Only 2 have players on team. Daddy ball?

8 coaches on a sideline...utterly hilarious they feel they need 8 coaches to run a team. How long before each field player gets gets his own? Hilarious.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/27/19 12:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dave Cottle coaching with Hawks 2022 team?


Is this team still considered to be "daddy ball"? Looks like they have more coaches that are not dads. I counted 7 coaches at Naptown and now they add an 8th. Only 2 have players on team. Daddy ball?


7 coaches and still can't win a meaningful game. Sad
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/27/19 04:37 PM
They are the new API.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/28/19 02:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dave Cottle coaching with Hawks 2022 team?


Is this team still considered to be "daddy ball"? Looks like they have more coaches that are not dads. I counted 7 coaches at Naptown and now they add an 8th. Only 2 have players on team. Daddy ball?

8 coaches on a sideline...utterly hilarious they feel they need 8 coaches to run a team. How long before each field player gets gets his own? Hilarious.



GI Joe need as many people to kiss his brass as possible
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/29/19 02:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dave Cottle coaching with Hawks 2022 team?


Is this team still considered to be "daddy ball"? Looks like they have more coaches that are not dads. I counted 7 coaches at Naptown and now they add an 8th. Only 2 have players on team. Daddy ball?

8 coaches on a sideline...utterly hilarious they feel they need 8 coaches to run a team. How long before each field player gets gets his own? Hilarious.


HATERS!!!!!!!! HILARIOUS
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/29/19 02:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are the new API.



Are the playing zone? lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/29/19 02:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dave Cottle coaching with Hawks 2022 team?


Is this team still considered to be "daddy ball"? Looks like they have more coaches that are not dads. I counted 7 coaches at Naptown and now they add an 8th. Only 2 have players on team. Daddy ball?


7 coaches and still can't win a meaningful game. Sad


If that's true then your sons team is VERY SAD. Poor kid needs to hit the wall more. You should sign your kid up for the tryout and see if he can compete.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/29/19 11:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are the new API.



Are the playing zone? lol


Congrats to API on winning the aloha tournament at the beach. Lol 3k a year to play in rec tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/29/19 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dave Cottle coaching with Hawks 2022 team?


Is this team still considered to be "daddy ball"? Looks like they have more coaches that are not dads. I counted 7 coaches at Naptown and now they add an 8th. Only 2 have players on team. Daddy ball?


7 coaches and still can't win a meaningful game. Sad


If that's true then your sons team is VERY SAD. Poor kid needs to hit the wall more. You should sign your kid up for the tryout and see if he can compete.


that's all you got, dodging the statement by using capital letters and putting down my son and his team, answer the question for all of the hype and self patting of their backs, why can't this team win a meaningful game
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/29/19 03:46 PM
What do you consider a meaningful game? Have you followed the Hawks team? League Championships? Summer Tournament Championships? Not sure what your looking for. Pretty sure they have won more “meaningful” games then your sons team.

Bring him out so he can compete against some of the best.

Just admit it. You wish he was on the team. 🤫
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/29/19 04:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you consider a meaningful game? Have you followed the Hawks team? League Championships? Summer Tournament Championships? Not sure what your looking for. Pretty sure they have won more “meaningful” games then your sons team.

Bring him out so he can compete against some of the best.

Just admit it. You wish he was on the team. 🤫


Notice that this thread last renewed on 30 Jul 2018. From the offerings of the last week or so, it's obvious that the forum administrator needs to again kill off this thread and start anew.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 07/30/19 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you consider a meaningful game? Have you followed the Hawks team? League Championships? Summer Tournament Championships? Not sure what your looking for. Pretty sure they have won more “meaningful” games then your sons team.

Bring him out so he can compete against some of the best.

Just admit it. You wish he was on the team. 🤫


nice attempt at deflection again without answering the question and actually, they have not won more games than my son's team....you can start with summer tournament championships, why does this over hyped team routinely come up short in summer tourneys
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/01/19 06:11 PM
Anybody going to do the UA Call Back Academy?

Looking at the web site I was surprised to see that its just a one day event. What they are promising and have planned seems like a whole lot to squeeze into a Saturday ending at 6pm.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/02/19 11:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody going to do the UA Call Back Academy?

Looking at the web site I was surprised to see that its just a one day event. What they are promising and have planned seems like a whole lot to squeeze into a Saturday ending at 6pm.

Cost is $300. Long drive to Richmond to one night hotel does not seem worth it.


Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/04/19 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you consider a meaningful game? Have you followed the Hawks team? League Championships? Summer Tournament Championships? Not sure what your looking for. Pretty sure they have won more “meaningful” games then your sons team.

Bring him out so he can compete against some of the best.

Just admit it. You wish he was on the team. 🤫


nice attempt at deflection again without answering the question and actually, they have not won more games than my son's team....you can start with summer tournament championships, why does this over hyped team routinely come up short in summer tourneys



Would love to know the team you are comparing to the Hawks. Let us be the judge. You say your sons team has won more games. “Meaningful” games?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/09/19 03:30 PM
Has anyone attended any of the 22 tryouts? Any noticeable movement of players?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/09/19 07:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone attended any of the 22 tryouts? Any noticeable movement of players?


I think it's ridiculous clubs even have tryouts going into 10th grade. Why would kids be moving around at this point? You really going to cut a kid now with no where to go?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/09/19 11:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone attended any of the 22 tryouts? Any noticeable movement of players?


I think it's ridiculous clubs even have tryouts going into 10th grade. Why would kids be moving around at this point? You really going to cut a kid now with no where to go?


Really? So a team should feel obligated to keep a player on the roster just because he was on the team the previous year? What if he got passed over and no longer can compete at the level needed? What if he or his parents have been a problem? Players move around when they think they have a better opportunity on another team.

Tryouts prove commitment to the team. Can't assume a player is returning unless you have a tryout.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/10/19 08:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you consider a meaningful game? Have you followed the Hawks team? League Championships? Summer Tournament Championships? Not sure what your looking for. Pretty sure they have won more “meaningful” games then your sons team.

Bring him out so he can compete against some of the best.

Just admit it. You wish he was on the team. 🤫


nice attempt at deflection again without answering the question and actually, they have not won more games than my son's team....you can start with summer tournament championships, why does this over hyped team routinely come up short in summer tourneys



Would love to know the team you are comparing to the Hawks. Let us be the judge. You say your sons team has won more games. “Meaningful” games?

still, no answer
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/11/19 03:27 PM
Nope but I’m sure his kid will be at the Hawks tryouts today. Lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/19 06:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone attended any of the 22 tryouts? Any noticeable movement of players?


I think it's ridiculous clubs even have tryouts going into 10th grade. Why would kids be moving around at this point? You really going to cut a kid now with no where to go?


Really? So a team should feel obligated to keep a player on the roster just because he was on the team the previous year? What if he got passed over and no longer can compete at the level needed? What if he or his parents have been a problem? Players move around when they think they have a better opportunity on another team.

Tryouts prove commitment to the team. Can't assume a player is returning unless you have a tryout.


Yes really. If a kid has been with a team for years is it right to cut him going into 10th grade? If they aren't pulling their weight have a talk with them and their parents and let them know. Let them know they may not play much if they stay and it would be smart to explore other opportunities. But do it early so that they have time to find another home. Just coldly cutting a kid at this point is tough because there isn't much movement and there aren't a lot of open spots on other teams.

Most girls clubs stop tryouts going into high school btw.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/12/19 08:28 PM
Your kid is going to be in for a shock helicopter dad.... He's going get cut, pushed down the depth chart and life isn't going to be fair. Tell your son to grow and pair and go out and compete, Teach him to let the chips fall where they may. If he's that good, he'll catch on with a good club. If he's not college or even starting MIAA material, better that he learn that at a younger age then have false hope. Know your limitations.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/19 03:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone attended any of the 22 tryouts? Any noticeable movement of players?


I think it's ridiculous clubs even have tryouts going into 10th grade. Why would kids be moving around at this point? You really going to cut a kid now with no where to go?


Really? So a team should feel obligated to keep a player on the roster just because he was on the team the previous year? What if he got passed over and no longer can compete at the level needed? What if he or his parents have been a problem? Players move around when they think they have a better opportunity on another team.

Tryouts prove commitment to the team. Can't assume a player is returning unless you have a tryout.


Yes really. If a kid has been with a team for years is it right to cut him going into 10th grade? If they aren't pulling their weight have a talk with them and their parents and let them know. Let them know they may not play much if they stay and it would be smart to explore other opportunities. But do it early so that they have time to find another home. Just coldly cutting a kid at this point is tough because there isn't much movement and there aren't a lot of open spots on other teams.

Most girls clubs stop tryouts going into high school btw.


If you are an observant parent you should know your kid might be on the fence and you should hit a few tryouts. Be proactive. Maybe you should reach out to the coach and see where he stands. Nothing is guaranteed unless your player is clearly the best at his position.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/13/19 05:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone attended any of the 22 tryouts? Any noticeable movement of players?


I think it's ridiculous clubs even have tryouts going into 10th grade. Why would kids be moving around at this point? You really going to cut a kid now with no where to go?


Really? So a team should feel obligated to keep a player on the roster just because he was on the team the previous year? What if he got passed over and no longer can compete at the level needed? What if he or his parents have been a problem? Players move around when they think they have a better opportunity on another team.

Tryouts prove commitment to the team. Can't assume a player is returning unless you have a tryout.


Yes really. If a kid has been with a team for years is it right to cut him going into 10th grade? If they aren't pulling their weight have a talk with them and their parents and let them know. Let them know they may not play much if they stay and it would be smart to explore other opportunities. But do it early so that they have time to find another home. Just coldly cutting a kid at this point is tough because there isn't much movement and there aren't a lot of open spots on other teams.

Most girls clubs stop tryouts going into high school btw.


If you are an observant parent you should know your kid might be on the fence and you should hit a few tryouts. Be proactive. Maybe you should reach out to the coach and see where he stands. Nothing is guaranteed unless your player is clearly the best at his position.


My kid is just fine. It was a general observation and statement. My son has been on the same team for years and isn't going anywhere.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/15/19 07:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone attended any of the 22 tryouts? Any noticeable movement of players?


I think it's ridiculous clubs even have tryouts going into 10th grade. Why would kids be moving around at this point? You really going to cut a kid now with no where to go?


Really? So a team should feel obligated to keep a player on the roster just because he was on the team the previous year? What if he got passed over and no longer can compete at the level needed? What if he or his parents have been a problem? Players move around when they think they have a better opportunity on another team.

Tryouts prove commitment to the team. Can't assume a player is returning unless you have a tryout.


Yes really. If a kid has been with a team for years is it right to cut him going into 10th grade? If they aren't pulling their weight have a talk with them and their parents and let them know. Let them know they may not play much if they stay and it would be smart to explore other opportunities. But do it early so that they have time to find another home. Just coldly cutting a kid at this point is tough because there isn't much movement and there aren't a lot of open spots on other teams.

Most girls clubs stop tryouts going into high school btw.


If you are an observant parent you should know your kid might be on the fence and you should hit a few tryouts. Be proactive. Maybe you should reach out to the coach and see where he stands. Nothing is guaranteed unless your player is clearly the best at his position.


My kid is just fine. It was a general observation and statement. My son has been on the same team for years and isn't going anywhere.


Sounds like the Hawks believe in tryouts and cutting previous year players. 👀
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/16/19 02:37 PM
Hawks cut players every year! Every year top players come from other teams and usually prevail at the try outs. No secret and its what most clubs do..Which is why they are always a top team competing against the top teams all year long.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/16/19 04:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks cut players every year! Every year top players come from other teams and usually prevail at the try outs. No secret and its what most clubs do..Which is why they are always a top team competing against the top teams all year long.



Unless Daddy is the HC.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/17/19 06:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks cut players every year! Every year top players come from other teams and usually prevail at the try outs. No secret and its what most clubs do..Which is why they are always a top team competing against the top teams all year long.


Guess so. Some FCA kids moving to Hawks. Where will the Hawks kids that got cut go?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 - 08/17/19 11:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks cut players every year! Every year top players come from other teams and usually prevail at the try outs. No secret and its what most clubs do..Which is why they are always a top team competing against the top teams all year long.


Guess so. Some FCA kids moving to Hawks. Where will the Hawks kids that got cut go?


Plenty of teams are out there.
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