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Posted By: TM@BOTC Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/01/17 03:58 PM
It's the start of the Fall 2017/Summer 2018 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/01/17 06:20 PM
anyone know of an A team that has less than 20 kids / has dedicated coaches/organized and intense practices/focused on recruiting/not very expensive?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/01/17 08:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone know of an A team that has less than 20 kids / has dedicated coaches/organized and intense practices/focused on recruiting/not very expensive?


What area? That usually is the biggest limitation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/01/17 08:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone know of an A team that has less than 20 kids / has dedicated coaches/organized and intense practices/focused on recruiting/not very expensive?


What area? That usually is the biggest limitation.


He's talking about unicorns... it doesn't exist. Should have included "no daddy ball".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/01/17 09:33 PM
Unicorn LC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/07/17 01:23 PM
How was FCA and Looneys tryouts yesterday?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/07/17 04:49 PM
Many yellow lids
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/08/17 03:22 AM
about 60 kids at Looney's. Tryouts were well done, fast paced and some talent. A lot of recreation kids making their first attempt at club. I agree that the Crabs were well represented at the tryout (6 total). If Looney's can get 2 to 4 of those Crabs kids they will be much better over last year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/08/17 03:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
about 60 kids at Looney's. Tryouts were well done, fast paced and some talent. A lot of recreation kids making their first attempt at club. I agree that the Crabs were well represented at the tryout (6 total). If Looney's can get 2 to 4 of those Crabs kids they will be much better over last year.

If they get all of those kids they will probably be better than Crabs next year... ##truth##
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/08/17 04:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
about 60 kids at Looney's. Tryouts were well done, fast paced and some talent. A lot of recreation kids making their first attempt at club. I agree that the Crabs were well represented at the tryout (6 total). If Looney's can get 2 to 4 of those Crabs kids they will be much better over last year.
a few kids really stood out at Looneys tryouts.. New to this so not sure where that came from or if they were already there
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/08/17 10:12 AM
There was probably about the same number at Calvert Hall for the FCA tryouts; 60ish. Very organized and well run; it appeared they had some of their Calvert Hall alumni running drills while coaches evaluated. A few scattered yellow lids mixed in but a variety of club teams being represented. There was a lot going on to say the least but it looked liked Kelley was spending extra time with some new talent at attack and the face-off position; they had a lot of talent at mid-field. This team will be very well represented come next Spring based on the talent level I saw on Sunday.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/08/17 11:44 PM
Who cares how may kids go to to FCA 2023 tryout? Spots only open if returning kids leave. That is why that team cannot overcome Crabs, which has open tryouts and actually scouts and brings in new players during the season. Did it with an attackmen 2 years ago and a defender this past season. Different models.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/09/17 12:05 AM
Looks like many Looneys kids from last year need to worry about keeping a spot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/09/17 01:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There was probably about the same number at Calvert Hall for the FCA tryouts; 60ish. Very organized and well run; it appeared they had some of their Calvert Hall alumni running drills while coaches evaluated. A few scattered yellow lids mixed in but a variety of club teams being represented. There was a lot going on to say the least but it looked liked Kelley was spending extra time with some new talent at attack and the face-off position; they had a lot of talent at mid-field. This team will be very well represented come next Spring based on the talent level I saw on Sunday.


More of his relatives on the way up
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/09/17 02:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares how may kids go to to FCA 2023 tryout? Spots only open if returning kids leave. That is why that team cannot overcome Crabs, which has open tryouts and actually scouts and brings in new players during the season. Did it with an attackmen 2 years ago and a defender this past season. Different models.


That's not how fca runs 2020 team which Kelly also coaches. Very few kids left on blue team from 5th/6th grade. He wants best possible players to steer to Calvert hall
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/09/17 12:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares how may kids go to to FCA 2023 tryout? Spots only open if returning kids leave. That is why that team cannot overcome Crabs, which has open tryouts and actually scouts and brings in new players during the season. Did it with an attackmen 2 years ago and a defender this past season. Different models.


Relax.....someone simply asked how tryouts were at Looney's and FCA; why so defensive? And with all due respect I will take the coaching at Looney's and FCA over Crabs any day of the week thank you very much.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/09/17 12:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like many Looneys kids from last year need to worry about keeping a spot.


Why is that because the back-up yellow lids are coming over?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/10/17 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like many Looneys kids from last year need to worry about keeping a spot.


Why is that because the back-up yellow lids are coming over?


There were around 6 Crabs there, 4 Hawks, 3 or 4 FCA. Really good talent on the top end.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/10/17 03:13 PM
"There were around 6 Crabs there, 4 Hawks, 3 or 4 FCA. Really good talent on the top end."
You were not there. These numbers are guesses. Thanks for playing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/10/17 04:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"There were around 6 Crabs there, 4 Hawks, 3 or 4 FCA. Really good talent on the top end."
You were not there. These numbers are guesses. Thanks for playing.


Was there and yes, since I couldn't get the kids to stand still while I counted their helmets,

Since you must have had better luck doing that, what are the correct numbers
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/10/17 08:16 PM
5-6 crabs helmets at looney, didn't count the others. 91 and FCA both had crab helmets as well
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/11/17 04:53 PM
Who cares what the correct number is? The point is you guessed. It is like you work for CNN.
Don't guess, just state what you saw, no one is judging you for not being able to count.

Here is the correct way you should have written your post.
"There were Crabs, Hawks, and FCA helmets at the Loonies' tryout. Really good talent on the top end."
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/11/17 05:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares what the correct number is? The point is you guessed. It is like you work for CNN.
Don't guess, just state what you saw, no one is judging you for not being able to count.

Here is the correct way you should have written your post.
"There were Crabs, Hawks, and FCA helmets at the Loonies' tryout. Really good talent on the top end."


Apparently YOU care what the correct number is. Thanks for the post writing tips though, I will post correctly on Sunday except I will attempt to spell the name of the club correctly if that is ok. I assume you just "guessed" at the spelling.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/11/17 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
5-6 crabs helmets at looney, didn't count the others. 91 and FCA both had crab helmets as well


Hey guys, think you might be on the wrong thread, 14 years olds should be going into 9th grade, not 7th...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/11/17 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
5-6 crabs helmets at looney, didn't count the others. 91 and FCA both had crab helmets as well


Hey guys, think you might be on the wrong thread, 14 years olds should be going into 9th grade, not 7th...


That is hilarious! And true. My son attended 2 different club tryouts and it was comical to see the difference in age and maturation as the kids were putting on their equipment in one big group. So easy to pick out the kids who should be in 8th and 9th grade. My kid's primary sport isn't lacrosse and he is a young 2023 so I could careless about the whole holdback thing but the holdback parents that put their head in the sand and act like it isn't an advantage are quite annoying.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/11/17 09:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
5-6 crabs helmets at looney, didn't count the others. 91 and FCA both had crab helmets as well


Hey guys, think you might be on the wrong thread, 14 years olds should be going into 9th grade, not 7th...


That is hilarious! And true. My son attended 2 different club tryouts and it was comical to see the difference in age and maturation as the kids were putting on their equipment in one big group. So easy to pick out the kids who should be in 8th and 9th grade. My kid's primary sport isn't lacrosse and he is a young 2023 so I could careless about the whole holdback thing but the holdback parents that put their head in the sand and act like it isn't an advantage are quite annoying.



What is hilarious is the fact you think you can tell which middle school kids are older and younger. Years ago I coached u15 rec teams and there is a huge size difference in kids that I know were playing together where they should have. 7th and 8th graders have and always will mature at different levels at this age. I do think the re-class thing is crazy and bad for the sport but I also think many parents are too quick to think they know by watching which kids are older. Not just a lacrosse thing either. There is a video of Lebron James upset because his son was getting beat by another player at a tournament and he called the kid out for being too old. Funny thing is that the kid tweeted that he was so good he got called out by Lebron which probably made his day. I hate to read on this site that kids are called out if they are not older which I have seen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/11/17 11:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
5-6 crabs helmets at looney, didn't count the others. 91 and FCA both had crab helmets as well


Hey guys, think you might be on the wrong thread, 14 years olds should be going into 9th grade, not 7th...


That is hilarious! And true. My son attended 2 different club tryouts and it was comical to see the difference in age and maturation as the kids were putting on their equipment in one big group. So easy to pick out the kids who should be in 8th and 9th grade. My kid's primary sport isn't lacrosse and he is a young 2023 so I could careless about the whole holdback thing but the holdback parents that put their head in the sand and act like it isn't an advantage are quite annoying.



What is hilarious is the fact you think you can tell which middle school kids are older and younger. Years ago I coached u15 rec teams and there is a huge size difference in kids that I know were playing together where they should have. 7th and 8th graders have and always will mature at different levels at this age. I do think the re-class thing is crazy and bad for the sport but I also think many parents are too quick to think they know by watching which kids are older. Not just a lacrosse thing either. There is a video of Lebron James upset because his son was getting beat by another player at a tournament and he called the kid out for being too old. Funny thing is that the kid tweeted that he was so good he got called out by Lebron which probably made his day. I hate to read on this site that kids are called out if they are not older which I have seen.


Agreed. In many cases, the older kids on the team are smaller. They were reclassed by their parents for that reason. My son is on age and he is very tall and has started puberty so he has hair on his legs, etc....Can't tell by how the kids look how old they are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/11/17 11:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
5-6 crabs helmets at looney, didn't count the others. 91 and FCA both had crab helmets as well


Hey guys, think you might be on the wrong thread, 14 years olds should be going into 9th grade, not 7th...


That is hilarious! And true. My son attended 2 different club tryouts and it was comical to see the difference in age and maturation as the kids were putting on their equipment in one big group. So easy to pick out the kids who should be in 8th and 9th grade. My kid's primary sport isn't lacrosse and he is a young 2023 so I could careless about the whole holdback thing but the holdback parents that put their head in the sand and act like it isn't an advantage are quite annoying.



What is hilarious is the fact you think you can tell which middle school kids are older and younger. Years ago I coached u15 rec teams and there is a huge size difference in kids that I know were playing together where they should have. 7th and 8th graders have and always will mature at different levels at this age. I do think the re-class thing is crazy and bad for the sport but I also think many parents are too quick to think they know by watching which kids are older. Not just a lacrosse thing either. There is a video of Lebron James upset because his son was getting beat by another player at a tournament and he called the kid out for being too old. Funny thing is that the kid tweeted that he was so good he got called out by Lebron which probably made his day. I hate to read on this site that kids are called out if they are not older which I have seen.


I have been teaching middle school for the past 20 years and coaching wrestling for 25 so I think I can tell the differences in age and maturation levels of 7th and 8th grade boys. But it certainly is nothing compared to your expertise as a U15 Rec coach. If you actually read what I posted, I said I could care less about holdback players. It was the parents I had an issue with, so save me your sanctimonious BS.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/12/17 07:56 PM
How do FCA and Looneys typically keep on there teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/13/17 12:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
5-6 crabs helmets at looney, didn't count the others. 91 and FCA both had crab helmets as well


Hey guys, think you might be on the wrong thread, 14 years olds should be going into 9th grade, not 7th...


That is hilarious! And true. My son attended 2 different club tryouts and it was comical to see the difference in age and maturation as the kids were putting on their equipment in one big group. So easy to pick out the kids who should be in 8th and 9th grade. My kid's primary sport isn't lacrosse and he is a young 2023 so I could careless about the whole holdback thing but the holdback parents that put their head in the sand and act like it isn't an advantage are quite annoying.



What is hilarious is the fact you think you can tell which middle school kids are older and younger. Years ago I coached u15 rec teams and there is a huge size difference in kids that I know were playing together where they should have. 7th and 8th graders have and always will mature at different levels at this age. I do think the re-class thing is crazy and bad for the sport but I also think many parents are too quick to think they know by watching which kids are older. Not just a lacrosse thing either. There is a video of Lebron James upset because his son was getting beat by another player at a tournament and he called the kid out for being too old. Funny thing is that the kid tweeted that he was so good he got called out by Lebron which probably made his day. I hate to read on this site that kids are called out if they are not older which I have seen.


I have been teaching middle school for the past 20 years and coaching wrestling for 25 so I think I can tell the differences in age and maturation levels of 7th and 8th grade boys. But it certainly is nothing compared to your expertise as a U15 Rec coach. If you actually read what I posted, I said I could care less about holdback players. It was the parents I had an issue with, so save me your sanctimonious BS.


Telling the truth about holdbacks/prefirsts gets the same response constantly. It is an unfair advantage for the majority of kids that do it. It isnt that hard to tell many of the kids that were heldback. Of course not all big kids are holdbacks.

But the apologists want to tell us the same old excuses......just cause they are big doesnt mean they are holdbacks, they are only a few months older, hit the wall your kid will get better, college coaches want to judge youth by grade not age, etc, etc
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/13/17 12:56 AM
Looney doesn't. They fold their teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/13/17 01:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How do FCA and Looneys typically keep on there teams?


Last seasons rosters are on their website
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/13/17 10:58 PM
That's a fact
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/13/17 11:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looney doesn't. They fold their teams.


Where you been Looney's hater? Looney's will have a 2019, two 2020s & a 2021 for this fall/summer
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/13/17 11:16 PM
Back-up Yellow lids...lol
Funny, my friend said they were the 1st to get invites.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/13/17 11:31 PM
Rumor is crabs 2023 is imploding...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/14/17 12:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is crabs 2023 is imploding...
Last one out.. turn off the lights
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/14/17 01:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is crabs 2023 is imploding...


You are an idiot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/14/17 01:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is crabs 2023 is imploding...


You are an idiot.

Completely true. Most likely half the team will be moving on to other clubs. It's a shame. Not sure what happened last year but it must of not been good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/14/17 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looney doesn't. They fold their teams.


Where you been Looney's hater? Looney's will have a 2019, two 2020s & a 2021 for this fall/summer



Looney's 2020 will be excellent. The rest of the club is garbage.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/15/17 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looney doesn't. They fold their teams.


Where you been Looney's hater? Looney's will have a 2019, two 2020s & a 2021 for this fall/summer



Looney's 2020 will be excellent. The rest of the club is garbage.

Very true. The 2023's will be medicore at beast this year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/15/17 03:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looney doesn't. They fold their teams.


Where you been Looney's hater? Looney's will have a 2019, two 2020s & a 2021 for this fall/summer



Looney's 2020 will be excellent. The rest of the club is garbage.

Very true. The 2023's will be medicore at beast this year



Interesting that the two finalist in HOCO were Crabs and Club Blue both seem to be imploding?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/15/17 05:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looney doesn't. They fold their teams.


Where you been Looney's hater? Looney's will have a 2019, two 2020s & a 2021 for this fall/summer



Looney's 2020 will be excellent. The rest of the club is garbage.

Very true. The 2023's will be medicore at beast this year



Interesting that the two finalist in HOCO were Crabs and Club Blue both seem to be imploding?


I am not sure if anyone would know this, but what 2023 club teams are growing or seemed to improve their talent level during and after tryouts. It sounds like crabs has a lot of turnover again; that seems to hold true every year but they simply reload with talent. What club 2023 teams will be able to compete with them next season?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/15/17 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looney doesn't. They fold their teams.


Where you been Looney's hater? Looney's will have a 2019, two 2020s & a 2021 for this fall/summer



Looney's 2020 will be excellent. The rest of the club is garbage.

Very true. The 2023's will be medicore at beast this year



Interesting that the two finalist in HOCO were Crabs and Club Blue both seem to be imploding?


I am not sure if anyone would know this, but what 2023 club teams are growing or seemed to improve their talent level during and after tryouts. It sounds like crabs has a lot of turnover again; that seems to hold true every year but they simply reload with talent. What club 2023 teams will be able to compete with them next season?


Club [lacrosse]... Seriously Crab Dad...[lacrosse] measure someplace else
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/15/17 05:57 PM
Fca hawks BLC Next Level club blue.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/15/17 06:14 PM
people put a lot of stock into kids trying out for other clubs. Many kids use different club tryouts as a warm-up, or a backup plan for their particular team. how many of those 5-6 crabs players who tried out for Looney's Orange were offered and accepted a spot on the team? of those crabs players, how many of them played for Looney's in the past with Capt. Flatbrim was a coach?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/15/17 06:33 PM
FCA, Hawks, Club Blue and Next Level will all be fully competitive with Crabs. BLC falling apart at this age. FCA and Next Level both very good last year and will get better. Hawks were good in summer tourneys - probably guest players. Club Blue will have another 6 kids reclass down bringing the grand total of on age kids on the 2023 team to ZERO
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/15/17 07:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FCA, Hawks, Club Blue and Next Level will all be fully competitive with Crabs. BLC falling apart at this age. FCA and Next Level both very good last year and will get better. Hawks were good in summer tourneys - probably guest players. Club Blue will have another 6 kids reclass down bringing the grand total of on age kids on the 2023 team to ZERO

Club Blue tryouts are this weekend in VA. Will a VA location have any impact? Will they pull from N.VA? The 2022 team is going to MD Hawks? What is that about? Should be interesting for the HOCO champs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/15/17 07:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looney doesn't. They fold their teams.


Where you been Looney's hater? Looney's will have a 2019, two 2020s & a 2021 for this fall/summer



Looney's 2020 will be excellent. The rest of the club is garbage.

Very true. The 2023's will be medicore at beast this year


So which category does junior fall into:

Couldn't make A or B this year?
Couldn't make A or B in the past?
Wasn't good enough or got "screwed " with playing time?

It is never the kid who excels on another team and comes to tryouts and isn't interested. Those people just move on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/15/17 07:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
people put a lot of stock into kids trying out for other clubs. Many kids use different club tryouts as a warm-up, or a backup plan for their particular team. how many of those 5-6 crabs players who tried out for Looney's Orange were offered and accepted a spot on the team? of those crabs players, how many of them played for Looney's in the past with Capt. Flatbrim was a coach?



Fishing for info...It's killing you isn't it? I'm not telling... You will have to wait until the rosters are posted....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/15/17 08:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
people put a lot of stock into kids trying out for other clubs. Many kids use different club tryouts as a warm-up, or a backup plan for their particular team. how many of those 5-6 crabs players who tried out for Looney's Orange were offered and accepted a spot on the team? of those crabs players, how many of them played for Looney's in the past with Capt. Flatbrim was a coach?



Fishing for info...It's killing you isn't it? I'm not telling... You will have to wait until the rosters are posted....


nope, not at all! just saying many kids use other tryouts as a warm up and/or back-up plan. I have an older kid at Looney's not a 2023.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 12:00 AM
Loons already set the orange squad. Notices already went out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 12:56 AM
I have never quite witnessed and epic departure like the Crabs 2023 team...Hopefully those coaches and other coaches learn from their mistakes and better coach a talented team..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 01:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Loons already set the orange squad. Notices already went out.


Looney's Snatched several of the Crabs best players... They will be one of the top teams at this age group next season
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 12:41 PM
Does anyone have any insight on the FCA or Club Blue Teams for 2023? They were both very talented last year and have some very good coaching; any new talent added? Seems the yellow helmets were well represented at all tryouts this year!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 04:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FCA, Hawks, Club Blue and Next Level will all be fully competitive with Crabs. BLC falling apart at this age. FCA and Next Level both very good last year and will get better. Hawks were good in summer tourneys - probably guest players. Club Blue will have another 6 kids reclass down bringing the grand total of on age kids on the 2023 team to ZERO

Club Blue tryouts are this weekend in VA. Will a VA location have any impact? Will they pull from N.VA? The 2022 team is going to MD Hawks? What is that about? Should be interesting for the HOCO champs.


2021 CB going to MD (not analpolis) Hawks. Not 2022. Just a way for GP coaches to work with their kids over the summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have never quite witnessed and epic departure like the Crabs 2023 team...Hopefully those coaches and other coaches learn from their mistakes and better coach a talented team..


I guess you weren't around when 91MD poached multiple teams from Breakers, or when FCA started and took many kids from Looney and Green Turtle.

How many of those Crabs players followed Flt brim from Carol Manor > Koopers > Looney's > Crabs and now back to Looney's?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 06:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]FCA, Hawks, Club Blue and Next Level will all be fully competitive with Crabs. BLC falling apart at this age. FCA and Next Level both very good last year and will get better. Hawks were good in summer tourneys - probably guest players. Club Blue will have another 6 kids reclass down bringing the grand total of on age kids on the 2023 team to ZERO

Club Blue tryouts are this weekend in VA. Will a VA location have any impact? Will they pull from N.VA? The 2022 team is going to MD Hawks? What is that about? Should be interesting for the HOCO champs.


Md Hawks were strictly for 2021 team, have heard it will no longer happen now because of IAC rules about off season coaching.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 06:55 PM
I have not seen any discussion about MM 2023's........was anyone at tryouts or have an idea if this team will be competitive this year? Honestly I feel MM only concern is 22 and 24 and the rest of the club can implode.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 07:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have not seen any discussion about MM 2023's........was anyone at tryouts or have an idea if this team will be competitive this year? Honestly I feel MM only concern is 22 and 24 and the rest of the club can implode.


they had about 45 kids tryout, 3 crab lids, not sure if they accepted an invite.

Their FOGO from last year went to FCA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 08:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have not seen any discussion about MM 2023's........was anyone at tryouts or have an idea if this team will be competitive this year? Honestly I feel MM only concern is 22 and 24 and the rest of the club can implode.


Apparently @91Maryland is announcing their teams by order of importance on twitter. '22 yesterday '24 today, who will be next?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have not seen any discussion about MM 2023's........was anyone at tryouts or have an idea if this team will be competitive this year? Honestly I feel MM only concern is 22 and 24 and the rest of the club can implode.


Apparently @91Maryland is announcing their teams by order of importance on twitter. '22 yesterday '24 today, who will be next?


Just said the roster is final. They never list their rosters because they change with guest players all the time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 08:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have not seen any discussion about MM 2023's........was anyone at tryouts or have an idea if this team will be competitive this year? Honestly I feel MM only concern is 22 and 24 and the rest of the club can implode.


Apparently @91Maryland is announcing their teams by order of importance on twitter. '22 yesterday '24 today, who will be next?


Well based on that Logic MM should be announcing what he will be doing next.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/16/17 09:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have not seen any discussion about MM 2023's........was anyone at tryouts or have an idea if this team will be competitive this year? Honestly I feel MM only concern is 22 and 24 and the rest of the club can implode.


they had about 45 kids tryout, 3 crab lids, not sure if they accepted an invite.

Their FOGO from last year went to FCA


I just heard their Goalie is playing for Crabs; so the two key positions on this team are gone? Way to MM! Lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 12:17 AM
91 FOGO was a liability and certainly wasn't key to the team. Goalie is overrated and replaceable.



Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 12:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 FOGO was a liability and certainly wasn't key to the team. Goalie is overrated and replaceable.





Very nice to talk about 12 yr old kids like this.

Must be MM posting
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 12:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 FOGO was a liability and certainly wasn't key to the team. Goalie is overrated and replaceable.


both were great players for the team and will be missed! shame some parents feel the urge to blast 7th graders.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 01:12 AM
[quote=Anonymous]91 FOGO was a liability and certainly wasn't key to the team. Goalie is overrated and replaceable.

Sounds like another bitter 91 parent who is not on 24 or 22. My son tried out for FCA and ended up on the "white team"; we accepted that offer. This club has a lot to offer outside of lacrosse so we thought it would be the best fit for him moving forward. I was able to watch that kid with the 91 helmet faceoff in all 3 tryouts; there was not anyone close to him; the kid has talent to say the least. If he went to FCA that is a huge addition for a team that already has loads of talent; I am sure they appreciate the "liability". I did not attend the Crabs tryouts but if the goalie made the team, overrated and replaceable are probably not adjectives I would use. Based on your assessment no wonder 91 2023 is on the way down.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 01:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 FOGO was a liability and certainly wasn't key to the team. Goalie is overrated and replaceable.


Wow my son played on 91 2023 and still does. These statements couldn't be further from the truth!! Those two boys were huge assets to our team and high character kids who will be missed tremendously. FCA and Crabs got a lot stronger! Please get your facts straight before making absolutely ridiculous posts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 01:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 FOGO was a liability and certainly wasn't key to the team. Goalie is overrated and replaceable.


Wow my son played on 91 2023 and still does. These statements couldn't be further from the truth!! Those two boys were huge assets to our team and high character kids who will be missed tremendously. FCA and Crabs got a lot stronger! Please get your facts straight before making absolutely ridiculous posts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 01:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 FOGO was a liability and certainly wasn't key to the team. Goalie is overrated and replaceable.


Wow my son played on 91 2023 and still does. These statements couldn't be further from the truth!! Those two boys were huge assets to our team and high character kids who will be missed tremendously. FCA and Crabs got a lot stronger! Please get your facts straight before making absolutely ridiculous posts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 01:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 FOGO was a liability and certainly wasn't key to the team. Goalie is overrated and replaceable.


Wow my son played on 91 2023 and still does. These statements couldn't be further from the truth!! Those two boys were huge assets to our team and high character kids who will be missed tremendously. FCA and Crabs got a lot stronger! Please get your facts straight before making absolutely ridiculous posts.


You're all fired up; had to repeat this 3 times!! Lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 02:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 FOGO was a liability and certainly wasn't key to the team. Goalie is overrated and replaceable.


Hey Mark I would love to know what the "key" to this team was; did you happen to see their record in HOCO and Tournamemrs this year? Seems to those who have actual knowledge of the team would disagree with your assessment of players on a team in your own club!! Oh that's right you have no clue since neither of your kids play on 2023!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 02:46 AM
Team 91 2023 will continue to lose kids unless they change the coaching staff.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 03:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]91 FOGO was a liability and certainly wasn't key to the team. Goalie is overrated and replaceable.

Sounds like another bitter 91 parent who is not on 24 or 22. My son tried out for FCA and ended up on the "white team"; we accepted that offer. This club has a lot to offer outside of lacrosse so we thought it would be the best fit for him moving forward. I was able to watch that kid with the 91 helmet faceoff in all 3 tryouts; there was not anyone close to him; the kid has talent to say the least. If he went to FCA that is a huge addition for a team that already has loads of talent; I am sure they appreciate the "liability". I did not attend the Crabs tryouts but if the goalie made the team, overrated and replaceable are probably not adjectives I would use. Based on your assessment no wonder 91 2023 is on the way down.


Welcome to the FCA family my friend. This is my son's 3rd year with the club and I think you made the right decision. I also was in attendance for all 3 tryouts and most us there knew after Day 1 who would be the FOGO for FCA Blue next season. At the end of tryout 3 I met this young man and his mother; great family!! As stated earlier in another post thank you for this liability 91 we greatly appreciate it!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 03:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 2023 will continue to lose kids unless they change the coaching staff.

91 MD will continue to lose kids as long as Millon is running the show. The guy is a complete narcissist who still thinks he is relevant. Besides himself, first and foremost, he only cares about his sons' teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 04:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 2023 will continue to lose kids unless they change the coaching staff.

91 MD will continue to lose kids as long as Millon is running the show. The guy is a complete narcissist who still thinks he is relevant. Besides himself, first and foremost, he only cares about his sons' teams.


At least 3 good crabs just moved to 2023 T91MD. They must have done something right during tryouts this year (or Crabs did something really awful).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 10:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 2023 will continue to lose kids unless they change the coaching staff.

91 MD will continue to lose kids as long as Millon is running the show. The guy is a complete narcissist who still thinks he is relevant. Besides himself, first and foremost, he only cares about his sons' teams.


At least 3 good crabs just moved to 2023 T91MD. They must have done something right during tryouts this year (or Crabs did something really awful).


Crabs lost half their 2023 team. Seems to be a pattern across all teams at Crabs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 10:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 2023 will continue to lose kids unless they change the coaching staff.

91 MD will continue to lose kids as long as Millon is running the show. The guy is a complete narcissist who still thinks he is relevant. Besides himself, first and foremost, he only cares about his sons' teams.


At least 3 good crabs just moved to 2023 T91MD. They must have done something right during tryouts this year (or Crabs did something really awful).


Interesting because I just looked at the current Crabs 2023 roster and there are only 13 kids listed. I know tryouts are still going on but there does seem to be some major turnover in the program. I do find it somewhat comical though how the yellow helmets showing up at tryouts or coming to another club team are viewed as saviors to an organization.

Team 91 had tryouts on the weekend on August 5&6 and the 2023 roster still has not been finalized? If that is the case I think that does say something about this team. Other clubs like FCA, Looney's, Hawks, Crabs etc have rosters finalized shortly after the final whistle at the last tryout. And can we all agree that taking 'shots' at kids is just bad form and should NEVER happen?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 11:38 AM
91 and Crabs sure seem to be a real sh*t show... Looks like Looney's, FCA, Hawks, Club Blue, and Bethesday reaping the benefits of poorly coached teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 12:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 FOGO was a liability and certainly wasn't key to the team. Goalie is overrated and replaceable.


both were great players for the team and will be missed! shame some parents feel the urge to blast 7th graders.


Could be part of the reason these kids left if that is the attitude being displayed on the sidelines........absolute shame what some parents can do to destroy a TEAM of kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 and Crabs sure seem to be a real sh*t show... Looks like Looney's, FCA, Hawks, Club Blue, and Bethesday reaping the benefits of poorly coached teams


Biggest mistake a parent can make is accepting a spot for their son on 23 Crabs. There is a reason a bunch of us left.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 01:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 and Crabs sure seem to be a real sh*t show... Looks like Looney's, FCA, Hawks, Club Blue, and Bethesday reaping the benefits of poorly coached teams


Biggest mistake a parent can make is accepting a spot for their son on 23 Crabs. There is a reason a bunch of us left.


I think the same can be true of 91md 2023; we left club entirely because of this experience!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 and Crabs sure seem to be a real sh*t show... Looks like Looney's, FCA, Hawks, Club Blue, and Bethesday reaping the benefits of poorly coached teams


Biggest mistake a parent can make is accepting a spot for their son on 23 Crabs. There is a reason a bunch of us left.


It's different coaches this year so what's the reason?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 01:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 and Crabs sure seem to be a real sh*t show... Looks like Looney's, FCA, Hawks, Club Blue, and Bethesday reaping the benefits of poorly coached teams


Biggest mistake a parent can make is accepting a spot for their son on 23 Crabs. There is a reason a bunch of us left.


It's different coaches this year so what's the reason?


So flat brim is out?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 01:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 2023 will continue to lose kids unless they change the coaching staff.

91 MD will continue to lose kids as long as Millon is running the show. The guy is a complete narcissist who still thinks he is relevant. Besides himself, first and foremost, he only cares about his sons' teams.


At least 3 good crabs just moved to 2023 T91MD. They must have done something right during tryouts this year (or Crabs did something really awful).


Interesting because I just looked at the current Crabs 2023 roster and there are only 13 kids listed. I know tryouts are still going on but there does seem to be some major turnover in the program. I do find it somewhat comical though how the yellow helmets showing up at tryouts or coming to another club team are viewed as saviors to an organization.

Team 91 had tryouts on the weekend on August 5&6 and the 2023 roster still has not been finalized? If that is the case I think that does say something about this team. Other clubs like FCA, Looney's, Hawks, Crabs etc have rosters finalized shortly after the final whistle at the last tryout. And can we all agree that taking 'shots' at kids is just bad form and should NEVER happen?


Taking shots at teams is equivalent to taking shots at kids on that team, perhaps you should follow you own advice?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team 91 2023 will continue to lose kids unless they change the coaching staff.

91 MD will continue to lose kids as long as Millon is running the show. The guy is a complete narcissist who still thinks he is relevant. Besides himself, first and foremost, he only cares about his sons' teams.


At least 3 good crabs just moved to 2023 T91MD. They must have done something right during tryouts this year (or Crabs did something really awful).


Interesting because I just looked at the current Crabs 2023 roster and there are only 13 kids listed. I know tryouts are still going on but there does seem to be some major turnover in the program. I do find it somewhat comical though how the yellow helmets showing up at tryouts or coming to another club team are viewed as saviors to an organization.

Team 91 had tryouts on the weekend on August 5&6 and the 2023 roster still has not been finalized? If that is the case I think that does say something about this team. Other clubs like FCA, Looney's, Hawks, Crabs etc have rosters finalized shortly after the final whistle at the last tryout. And can we all agree that taking 'shots' at kids is just bad form and should NEVER happen?


Taking shots at teams is equivalent to taking shots at kids on that team, perhaps you should follow you own advice?


I wasn't intentionally trying to take a shot at this club; just stating what I typically see once tryouts are finished. Others have expressed their disdain; I was referring to the process of recruiting but each club is different.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 and Crabs sure seem to be a real sh*t show... Looks like Looney's, FCA, Hawks, Club Blue, and Bethesday reaping the benefits of poorly coached teams


Biggest mistake a parent can make is accepting a spot for their son on 23 Crabs. There is a reason a bunch of us left.


It's different coaches this year so what's the reason?


So flat brim is out?


Yep - flat brim is no longer coaching that team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 and Crabs sure seem to be a real sh*t show... Looks like Looney's, FCA, Hawks, Club Blue, and Bethesday reaping the benefits of poorly coached teams


Biggest mistake a parent can make is accepting a spot for their son on 23 Crabs. There is a reason a bunch of us left.


It's different coaches this year so what's the reason?


So flat brim is out?


Yep - flat brim is no longer coaching that team.
Flat Brim was not the head coach... Just an assistant..... Look to the Head Coach for problems with the team... Ultimately his responsibility
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 04:45 PM
Flat brim is coaching another team for Crabs. Still a very good group of coaches and kids on 2023
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 04:59 PM
Interesting how parents are complaining about their kids not getting enough time on the field. Then you want to say the good kids are leaving and going to another team. Any moron can see that if your kid was good then they would have been playing and parents wouldn't be so unhappy. It is the same anywhere you go. Good luck to all of you unhappy parents and kids. Try to enjoy the game and stop the constant whining and complaining. Try to stay with one club team for more than 1 or two years, try pushing through when you don't like one thing or don't get your way.
You think these other club teams teams are lucky to be inheriting this drama? Same [lacrosse] different day...I mean club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 05:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting how parents are complaining about their kids not getting enough time on the field. Then you want to say the good kids are leaving and going to another team. Any moron can see that if your kid was good then they would have been playing and parents wouldn't be so unhappy. It is the same anywhere you go. Good luck to all of you unhappy parents and kids. Try to enjoy the game and stop the constant whining and complaining. Try to stay with one club team for more than 1 or two years, try pushing through when you don't like one thing or don't get your way.
You think these other club teams teams are lucky to be inheriting this drama? Same [lacrosse] different day...I mean club.


Agreed. Several of these kids are on their 3rd or 4th club in 4 years. You think that's because of bad coaching? Sounds like bad parents to me. This Crabs team will be better off without all of that drama!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 05:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting how parents are complaining about their kids not getting enough time on the field. Then you want to say the good kids are leaving and going to another team. Any moron can see that if your kid was good then they would have been playing and parents wouldn't be so unhappy. It is the same anywhere you go. Good luck to all of you unhappy parents and kids. Try to enjoy the game and stop the constant whining and complaining. Try to stay with one club team for more than 1 or two years, try pushing through when you don't like one thing or don't get your way.
You think these other club teams teams are lucky to be inheriting this drama? Same [lacrosse] different day...I mean club.


touche
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 05:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 and Crabs sure seem to be a real sh*t show... Looks like Looney's, FCA, Hawks, Club Blue, and Bethesday reaping the benefits of poorly coached teams


Biggest mistake a parent can make is accepting a spot for their son on 23 Crabs. There is a reason a bunch of us left.


parents disagree with adding a flat brim to the uniform?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 06:22 PM
Exactly my point.... you just proved how idiotic The parents are. Complete morons. Let's see what club you get cut from next year. I noticed many of these parents forgot to mention that they didn't exactly leave their respective clubs. Many were not asked to come back. It sounds so much better to blame everyone else. I am leaving a winning team because my kid didn't play and the coaching was horrible.
You can't be a winning team if the coaching is horrible. You can however be a non-factor, on a winning team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 06:30 PM
Dumb...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 06:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting how parents are complaining about their kids not getting enough time on the field. Then you want to say the good kids are leaving and going to another team. Any moron can see that if your kid was good then they would have been playing and parents wouldn't be so unhappy. It is the same anywhere you go. Good luck to all of you unhappy parents and kids. Try to enjoy the game and stop the constant whining and complaining. Try to stay with one club team for more than 1 or two years, try pushing through when you don't like one thing or don't get your way.
You think these other club teams teams are lucky to be inheriting this drama? Same [lacrosse] different day...I mean club.


Agreed. Several of these kids are on their 3rd or 4th club in 4 years. You think that's because of bad coaching? Sounds like bad parents to me. This Crabs team will be better off without all of that drama!

That way of thinking got you into this perdicament Ryan....I mean jumbo lump!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly my point.... you just proved how idiotic The parents are. Complete morons. Let's see what club you get cut from next year. I noticed many of these parents forgot to mention that they didn't exactly leave their respective clubs. Many were not asked to come back. It sounds so much better to blame everyone else. I am leaving a winning team because my kid didn't play and the coaching was horrible.
You can't be a winning team if the coaching is horrible. You can however be a non-factor, on a winning team.

Your worng.... Don't make comments if you were not apart of that team.... Obvioulsy you were not by making that statement.......
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 07:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly my point.... you just proved how idiotic The parents are. Complete morons. Let's see what club you get cut from next year. I noticed many of these parents forgot to mention that they didn't exactly leave their respective clubs. Many were not asked to come back. It sounds so much better to blame everyone else. I am leaving a winning team because my kid didn't play and the coaching was horrible.
You can't be a winning team if the coaching is horrible. You can however be a non-factor, on a winning team.


Yes you can just ask the members of Crabs 2023!!! This mass exodus from the team was not based on playing time; it was based on the lack of developing players and very poor coaching. Have you even spoken to the parents that left????? Completely clueless.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly my point.... you just proved how idiotic The parents are. Complete morons. Let's see what club you get cut from next year. I noticed many of these parents forgot to mention that they didn't exactly leave their respective clubs. Many were not asked to come back. It sounds so much better to blame everyone else. I am leaving a winning team because my kid didn't play and the coaching was horrible.
You can't be a winning team if the coaching is horrible. You can however be a non-factor, on a winning team.


Yes you can just ask the members of Crabs 2023!!! This mass exodus from the team was not based on playing time; it was based on the lack of developing players and very poor coaching. Have you even spoken to the parents that left????? Completely clueless.


I would agree - the parents that left are completely clueless. Good luck playing for MM, or Looney's, or FCA (where you really won't get any playing time).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 07:33 PM
But you said it was a very talented team? How can you be both underdeveloped and talented? You're mad because you put your kid on a competitive team. The outcome wasn't what you expected. You asked for feedback and you got the truth. You didn't want to hear it and you are leaving the club. Not everyone is cut out to play on a competitive, winning team. It's not the kids that can't handle the facts! It's the parents that can't handle the facts! Until you are honest about your kids abilities you are always going to be unhappy. Every kid on that team is/ was a good lacrosse player. If anything you should be mad at yourself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 08:16 PM
No, I don't ask the [lacrosse] dad's with their red solo cups and stop watches about their feelings. Same s;&@ different sideline.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 10:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 and Crabs sure seem to be a real sh*t show... Looks like Looney's, FCA, Hawks, Club Blue, and Bethesday reaping the benefits of poorly coached teams


Biggest mistake a parent can make is accepting a spot for their son on 23 Crabs. There is a reason a bunch of us left.


Ditto
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/17/17 11:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is crabs 2023 is imploding...


A few players leaving, you could say they were disgruntled over playing time or whatever. But more than half the team leaving, including the boys that got most of the playing time, something else at play there.

Coaches & management just don't want to accept there were problems starting with them. Behind-the-scenes politics was shameful, starting with the Dad on the coaching staff. Perhaps they will use this as an opportunity to right their ship.

Most people had already decided that they wouldn't be coming back. But knowing that they were supposed to be getting new coaches, they showed up at tryouts to give one last consideration. But when they showed up and saw the promised "blind" tryout had last year's coaches as evaluators, they turned around and left. Likely they had chosen the team before they ever even started. Complete lack of professionalism and integrity.

A number of local clubs just got a little bit better adding these kids to their teams. Should make for some competitive games!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 12:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is crabs 2023 is imploding...


A few players leaving, you could say they were disgruntled over playing time or whatever. But more than half the team leaving, including the boys that got most of the playing time, something else at play there.

Coaches & management just don't want to accept there were problems starting with them. Behind-the-scenes politics was shameful, starting with the Dad on the coaching staff. Perhaps they will use this as an opportunity to right their ship.

Most people had already decided that they wouldn't be coming back. But knowing that they were supposed to be getting new coaches, they showed up at tryouts to give one last consideration. But when they showed up and saw the promised "blind" tryout had last year's coaches as evaluators, they turned around and left. Likely they had chosen the team before they ever even started. Complete lack of professionalism and integrity.

A number of local clubs just got a little bit better adding these kids to their teams. Should make for some competitive games!


Yeah, not much fun when you run every play to get the coach's son a shot. we should have left after the 1st year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 01:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is crabs 2023 is imploding...


A few players leaving, you could say they were disgruntled over playing time or whatever. But more than half the team leaving, including the boys that got most of the playing time, something else at play there.

Coaches & management just don't want to accept there were problems starting with them. Behind-the-scenes politics was shameful, starting with the Dad on the coaching staff. Perhaps they will use this as an opportunity to right their ship.

Most people had already decided that they wouldn't be coming back. But knowing that they were supposed to be getting new coaches, they showed up at tryouts to give one last consideration. But when they showed up and saw the promised "blind" tryout had last year's coaches as evaluators, they turned around and left. Likely they had chosen the team before they ever even started. Complete lack of professionalism and integrity.

A number of local clubs just got a little bit better adding these kids to their teams. Should make for some competitive games!


Yeah, not much fun when you run every play to get the coach's son a shot. we should have left after the 1st year


Talking about Crabs or MM teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 01:56 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is crabs 2023 is imploding...


A few players leaving, you could say they were disgruntled over playing time or whatever. But more than half the team leaving, including the boys that got most of the playing time, something else at play there.

Coaches & management just don't want to accept there were problems starting with them. Behind-the-scenes politics was shameful, starting with the Dad on the coaching staff. Perhaps they will use this as an opportunity to right their ship.

Most people had already decided that they wouldn't be coming back. But knowing that they were supposed to be getting new coaches, they showed up at tryouts to give one last consideration. But when they showed up and saw the promised "blind" tryout had last year's coaches as evaluators, they turned around and left. Likely they had chosen the team before they ever even started. Complete lack of professionalism and integrity.

A number of local clubs just got a little bit better adding these kids to their teams. Should make for some competitive games!


Yeah, not much fun when you run every play to get the coach's son a shot. we should have left after the 1st year


1St game of the last tournament.. Head Coach screamed several times at the boys.. "why don't you play more like(My favorite player). Happened many times during the season. He might as well kicked every player on that team in the nuts. This lead to the most lopsided loss in this teams history and no one seemed to care. Great players and parents... we learned a lot... Time to rebuild the confidence and move on. Many of these parents are coaches and involved with multiple sports... not our first rodeo.....Lacrosse is much bigger than a coach or a program....Crabs will be fine and the ones that left will be fine... If I am Crabs I am trying to get those boys back...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 03:32 AM
To all of the parents and kids who left a winning team because their feelings were hurt... hold on to all of
Those championship t-shirts that you didn't earn...because you won't be seeing many more!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 03:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all of the parents and kids who left a winning team because their feelings were hurt... hold on to all of
Those championship t-shirts that you didn't earn...because you won't be seeing many more!


Sounds just like somthing Flat Brim would say...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 04:06 AM
Sounds just like something Steele would say or is it Johnson?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 04:14 AM
Don't cry nugget!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 11:56 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is crabs 2023 is imploding...


A few players leaving, you could say they were disgruntled over playing time or whatever. But more than half the team leaving, including the boys that got most of the playing time, something else at play there.

Coaches & management just don't want to accept there were problems starting with them. Behind-the-scenes politics was shameful, starting with the Dad on the coaching staff. Perhaps they will use this as an opportunity to right their ship.

Most people had already decided that they wouldn't be coming back. But knowing that they were supposed to be getting new coaches, they showed up at tryouts to give one last consideration. But when they showed up and saw the promised "blind" tryout had last year's coaches as evaluators, they turned around and left. Likely they had chosen the team before they ever even started. Complete lack of professionalism and integrity.

A number of local clubs just got a little bit better adding these kids to their teams. Should make for some competitive games!



Whoever wrote this gets it.....Thank you for this
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 12:00 PM
Wow... Parents really should not drink and post on BOTC.... Although wildly entertaining.....This stuff is embarrasing..whomever is doing this should be embarrased and you are definitely not helping the situation for anyone involved. There are kids that have left and kids that have stayed who still love and respect each other....Please stop this nonsense
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 12:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all of the parents and kids who left a winning team because their feelings were hurt... hold on to all of
Those championship t-shirts that you didn't earn...because you won't be seeing many more!


Got that right..I would rather be on a team with screaming coach while belittling players that wins a Championship, than any team that only wins some and loses some with a respectful coach teaching the game, fundamentals and respect...Yep thats more important to my 7th grader and his future.... Championship T shirts!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 12:51 PM
Honestly reading the back and forth between Crab coaches/parents and parents taking shots at kids on 91 reaffirms my decision to walk away from club lacrosse and get back to rec and my community. Absolutely embarrassing on both sides.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 03:03 PM
[quote=Anonymous]Honestly reading the back and forth between Crab coaches/parents and parents taking shots at kids on 91 reaffirms my decision to walk away from club lacrosse and get back to rec and my community. Absolutely embarrassing on both sides. [/quote

Sorry your boy didn't make a team, you can coach him now in rec.

Bye
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 03:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Honestly reading the back and forth between Crab coaches/parents and parents taking shots at kids on 91 reaffirms my decision to walk away from club lacrosse and get back to rec and my community. Absolutely embarrassing on both sides. [/quote

Sorry your boy didn't make a team, you can coach him now in rec.

Bye


Thank you for reaffirming my decision.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Honestly reading the back and forth between Crab coaches/parents and parents taking shots at kids on 91 reaffirms my decision to walk away from club lacrosse and get back to rec and my community. Absolutely embarrassing on both sides. [/quote

Sorry your boy didn't make a team, you can coach him now in rec.

Bye


Thank you for reaffirming my decision.


Bye
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 03:58 PM
The only thing I am not seeing on this forum is parents taking responsibility for their actions. When you should have defended your son to a coach, when you should have had a meaningful conversation with the coach, when you should have gone back and told the coach how you and your son were feeling about a situation....you did not. You considered it taking the high road. Somehow coming on this forum and bashing the coaches and the coaches kids is making you feel better about all of the things you should have done for your kids and DID NOT. Let that be a lesson to all of you. Sitting on the sidelines and drinking and talking s($@ and not having the guts, dignity or self respect to defend your child is your problem. Timing your kids play time, whining, complaining, drinking and all around s()& talking from parents makes you no better than any coach, kid or club that you are bashing on this forum. You learn from this! The only people that are hurt from this are the kids. Attitudes are the forerunners of conditions! You parents...you learn from this!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 04:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow... Parents really should not drink and post on BOTC.... Although wildly entertaining.....This stuff is embarrasing..whomever is doing this should be embarrased and you are definitely not helping the situation for anyone involved. There are kids that have left and kids that have stayed who still love and respect each other....Please stop this nonsense

While I agree with you, I am hope to think that most of the kids in 2023 group do not read BOTC and if they did many would laugh at how much the parents care. My son has friends on competing clubs and made new friends through camps and other teams ect.... On the morning of one of his tournaments he was getting a lot of texts and instagram posts in a group talking trash about him and his team and guess what? The kids are way better at it than the adults. They were at least funny and he let me read some of them. It actually motivated him to play harder, the trash talking was rough but they new it was good spirited almost like an honor. Hater's gonna hate, and he was very happy to see the kids during and after the game. We should follow their lead.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/18/17 05:58 PM
Crabs brought in guest players throughout the spring tournament season and when you look at their brackets, surprise they always managed to have the easiest draw and road to the championship game (direct for parents on the team). It's a business for them pure and simple.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/19/17 04:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The only thing I am not seeing on this forum is parents taking responsibility for their actions. When you should have defended your son to a coach, when you should have had a meaningful conversation with the coach, when you should have gone back and told the coach how you and your son were feeling about a situation....you did not. You considered it taking the high road. Somehow coming on this forum and bashing the coaches and the coaches kids is making you feel better about all of the things you should have done for your kids and DID NOT. Let that be a lesson to all of you. Sitting on the sidelines and drinking and talking s($@ and not having the guts, dignity or self respect to defend your child is your problem. Timing your kids play time, whining, complaining, drinking and all around s()& talking from parents makes you no better than any coach, kid or club that you are bashing on this forum. You learn from this! The only people that are hurt from this are the kids. Attitudes are the forerunners of conditions! You parents...you learn from this!


Uhhg.. Glad it was posted here instead of that cringeworthy email that you sent to parents after the season last year.. Flat brims wife checking in on the mess... One more to H!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/19/17 02:16 PM
Perhaps you should know the history before you stand on your soap box and preach. Think it can be agreed that parents want the best experience for their son. This crabs 2023 team had the best chemistry amongst the parents as well as the boys. One of the reasons it was successful.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/19/17 02:29 PM
best to you on that team. I would rather raise my son with confidence,respect and integrity but if the tshirts help you sleep at night when the championship is forgotten the next day.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/19/17 09:58 PM
Sorry, buit if a player is the best offensive weapon on a team, you get him the ball as much as possible. That is why the 2023 Crabs were one of the country's best teams.

Sorry that bothered many of you. Good luck on your new teams this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/19/17 10:15 PM
1MOR2H
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/19/17 10:18 PM
Thanks Flat brim
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/19/17 10:42 PM
This is just a bunch of upset dad's stirring the pot. Writing posts to get a reaction. Many of the coaches, parents and players were a class act. The few that are gone are just acts. Just reading these ridiculous posts prove it. Hope you're having fun at Hillendale.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/19/17 10:57 PM
This is a site for disgruntled parents who's kids get cut from teams! You all should get together and coach a team since you're so great! You can call it "B" team!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 03:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1MOR2H


Hilarious!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 03:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1MOR2H


This was on Flat brims license plate... Deal breaker for us..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 10:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry, buit if a player is the best offensive weapon on a team, you get him the ball as much as possible. That is why the 2023 Crabs were one of the country's best teams.

Sorry that bothered many of you. Good luck on your new teams this year.


#24 not #10
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 11:20 AM
Dumb....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 12:57 PM
Off the team but still trying to pit kids against one another! Sounds like a good group of parents to me. Still so mad that you are on here posting. Sounds like you are really happy about not being on the team! We can all see just how happy you are. It is really obvious that you have moved on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 02:24 PM
Sad part. .... half of these posts are from parents and families still on this team or part of Crabs. The ones who choose to not try out - it was just that a choice.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Off the team but still trying to pit kids against one another! Sounds like a good group of parents to me. Still so mad that you are on here posting. Sounds like you are really happy about not being on the team! We can all see just how happy you are. It is really obvious that you have moved on.


Actually we are just trying to inform those who would consider this program to simply not apply!! Losing more than 1/2 the team should tell you as a coach and wife of a coach something.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 04:40 PM
It's not sad...it's scary! Imagine the kids that are being talked about and the anger these adults have towards them!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 04:56 PM
Lol......just heard from a friend trying out for Hawks that flat brim and his son are at Hawks tryout today. Good luck with that Hawks!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 07:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lol......just heard from a friend trying out for Hawks that flat brim and his son are at Hawks tryout today. Good luck with that Hawks!!


New low for Brim and Crabs. Brim working sidelines trying to recruit kids to Crabs. Crabs getting desperate.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 07:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lol......just heard from a friend trying out for Hawks that flat brim and his son are at Hawks tryout today. Good luck with that Hawks!!


100% true.
Makes sense.
Hawks = "Daddyball"
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 09:52 PM
Does flat brim have tats/looks like a thug?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 10:02 PM
word on the street... Brim's kid crushed it and Johnson's kid got cut after the first try out!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/20/17 10:26 PM
Yes, he has tattoos all over his arms and legs. Looks more like a biker than a thug.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
word on the street... Brim's kid crushed it and Johnson's kid got cut after the first try out!


Brim's kid already registered for Crabs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 03:00 AM
To whomever is getting great pleasure of creating a [lacrosse] storm for Crabs and the kids that moved on.. Please stop.. kids left and stayed for different reasons... Chill... a lot of no good is coming from this. Crabs will be fine and the kids that moved on will be fine. Relax people and stop character assasinating. No good comes from this. Coaches did a good job and kids that moved on are players. Give it a rest. A lot of feelings are getting hurt and kids that moved on are getting a bad rap...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 04:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To whomever is getting great pleasure of creating a [lacrosse] storm for Crabs and the kids that moved on.. Please stop.. kids left and stayed for different reasons... Chill... a lot of no good is coming from this. Crabs will be fine and the kids that moved on will be fine. Relax people and stop character assasinating. No good comes from this. Coaches did a good job and kids that moved on are players. Give it a rest. A lot of feelings are getting hurt and kids that moved on are getting a bad rap...


Amen
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 02:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To whomever is getting great pleasure of creating a [lacrosse] storm for Crabs and the kids that moved on.. Please stop.. kids left and stayed for different reasons... Chill... a lot of no good is coming from this. Crabs will be fine and the kids that moved on will be fine. Relax people and stop character assasinating. No good comes from this. Coaches did a good job and kids that moved on are players. Give it a rest. A lot of feelings are getting hurt and kids that moved on are getting a bad rap...


Amen

Originally Posted by Anonymous
To whomever is getting great pleasure of creating a [lacrosse] storm for Crabs and the kids that moved on.. Please stop.. kids left and stayed for different reasons... Chill... a lot of no good is coming from this. Crabs will be fine and the kids that moved on will be fine. Relax people and stop character assasinating. No good comes from this. Coaches did a good job and kids that moved on are players. Give it a rest. A lot of feelings are getting hurt and kids that moved on are getting a bad rap...


Yea..but this Flat Brim guy seems to be getting a lot of attention from his fan base! He has quite a few loyal followers who watch his every move !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 03:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
word on the street... Brim's kid crushed it and Johnson's kid got cut after the first try out!


The kid made FCA and didn’t go back for Hawks afterwards...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 03:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
word on the street... Brim's kid crushed it and Johnson's kid got cut after the first try out!


Brim's kid already registered for Crabs.


Doesn't matter. He is trying hard to get his kid on Hawks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 04:56 PM
Like he has to "try"...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 05:27 PM
Hawks is a class organization. We went to all three tryouts and can tell you that I have never seen that much talent on a middle school field in 10 years of lacrosse. The Crabs kid, lefty is outstanding but I know that his father brings some issues. This is not new for any top organization. The dad will either have to get in line or his kid will go to the back of it. I am not a Hawk dad but know good lacrosse when I see it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks is a class organization. We went to all three tryouts and can tell you that I have never seen that much talent on a middle school field in 10 years of lacrosse. The Crabs kid, lefty is outstanding but I know that his father brings some issues. This is not new for any top organization. The dad will either have to get in line or his kid will go to the back of it. I am not a Hawk dad but know good lacrosse when I see it.


Hawks are about as far from a class organization as you can get. Daddy ball, favoritism, Hogan is a complete a$$, redneck parents, etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Anonymous
To whomever is getting great pleasure of creating a [lacrosse] storm for Crabs and the kids that moved on.. Please stop.. kids left and stayed for different reasons... Chill... a lot of no good is coming from this. Crabs will be fine and the kids that moved on will be fine. Relax people and stop character assasinating. No good comes from this. Coaches did a good job and kids that moved on are players. Give it a rest. A lot of feelings are getting hurt and kids that moved on are getting a bad rap...


Sad to see what is going on on this site - especially the hostile comments specific families and kids. My son had a great time on this team and made some very good friends. Change is the only constant, especially at this age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 09:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks is a class organization. We went to all three tryouts and can tell you that I have never seen that much talent on a middle school field in 10 years of lacrosse. The Crabs kid, lefty is outstanding but I know that his father brings some issues. This is not new for any top organization. The dad will either have to get in line or his kid will go to the back of it. I am not a Hawk dad but know good lacrosse when I see it.


Hawks are about as far from a class organization as you can get. Daddy ball, favoritism, Hogan is a complete a$$, redneck parents, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks is a class organization. We went to all three tryouts and can tell you that I have never seen that much talent on a middle school field in 10 years of lacrosse. The Crabs kid, lefty is outstanding but I know that his father brings some issues. This is not new for any top organization. The dad will either have to get in line or his kid will go to the back of it. I am not a Hawk dad but know good lacrosse when I see it.


Hawks are about as far from a class organization as you can get. Daddy ball, favoritism, Hogan is a complete a$$, redneck parents, etc.


What should they do differently
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 09:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks is a class organization. We went to all three tryouts and can tell you that I have never seen that much talent on a middle school field in 10 years of lacrosse. The Crabs kid, lefty is outstanding but I know that his father brings some issues. This is not new for any top organization. The dad will either have to get in line or his kid will go to the back of it. I am not a Hawk dad but know good lacrosse when I see it.


Hawks are about as far from a class organization as you can get. Daddy ball, favoritism, Hogan is a complete a$$, redneck parents, etc.


So which organization do you belong too? There is no better run club than the Hawks and there is no better run tournaments than Hogans. Only people that write garbage like that are the ones who are no longer part of the club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 09:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks is a class organization. We went to all three tryouts and can tell you that I have never seen that much talent on a middle school field in 10 years of lacrosse. The Crabs kid, lefty is outstanding but I know that his father brings some issues. This is not new for any top organization. The dad will either have to get in line or his kid will go to the back of it. I am not a Hawk dad but know good lacrosse when I see it.


Hawks are about as far from a class organization as you can get. Daddy ball, favoritism, Hogan is a complete a$$, redneck parents, etc.


So which organization do you belong too? There is no better run club than the Hawks and there is no better run tournaments than Hogans. Only people that write garbage like that are the ones who are no longer part of the club.



You do know they had record numbers for all age groups at try outs. They were the most successful club this year in Maryland across the board at every age group . All most all of there 2nd teams won championships this year in multiple events. You do know that the Daddy ball is because the daddy coaches are more qualified to coach than any other club coaches. And yes, the Redneck parents are just as important to the clubs success as the players, coaches and other non rednecks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 10:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks is a class organization. We went to all three tryouts and can tell you that I have never seen that much talent on a middle school field in 10 years of lacrosse. The Crabs kid, lefty is outstanding but I know that his father brings some issues. This is not new for any top organization. The dad will either have to get in line or his kid will go to the back of it. I am not a Hawk dad but know good lacrosse when I see it.


Hawks are about as far from a class organization as you can get. Daddy ball, favoritism, Hogan is a complete a$$, redneck parents, etc.


So which organization do you belong too? There is no better run club than the Hawks and there is no better run tournaments than Hogans. Only people that write garbage like that are the ones who are no longer part of the club.


I bet you fall into the redneck parent category.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks is a class organization. We went to all three tryouts and can tell you that I have never seen that much talent on a middle school field in 10 years of lacrosse. The Crabs kid, lefty is outstanding but I know that his father brings some issues. This is not new for any top organization. The dad will either have to get in line or his kid will go to the back of it. I am not a Hawk dad but know good lacrosse when I see it.


Hawks are about as far from a class organization as you can get. Daddy ball, favoritism, Hogan is a complete a$$, redneck parents, etc.


So which organization do you belong too? There is no better run club than the Hawks and there is no better run tournaments than Hogans. Only people that write garbage like that are the ones who are no longer part of the club.



You do know they had record numbers for all age groups at try outs. They were the most successful club this year in Maryland across the board at every age group . All most all of there 2nd teams won championships this year in multiple events. You do know that the Daddy ball is because the daddy coaches are more qualified to coach than any other club coaches. And yes, the Redneck parents are just as important to the clubs success as the players, coaches and other non rednecks.


They have record numbers at tryouts because their black teams are glorified rec teams. They have championships for all those black teams because Hogan stacks his tournaments so his teams play weaker competition. They weren't the most successful club across all ages - maybe at 2022 but that's it. If those daddy coaches are so qualified then they should just have them coach a different team and not oversee their own kids. And the redneck parents are an embarrassment to the game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 11:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks is a class organization. We went to all three tryouts and can tell you that I have never seen that much talent on a middle school field in 10 years of lacrosse. The Crabs kid, lefty is outstanding but I know that his father brings some issues. This is not new for any top organization. The dad will either have to get in line or his kid will go to the back of it. I am not a Hawk dad but know good lacrosse when I see it.


Hawks are about as far from a class organization as you can get. Daddy ball, favoritism, Hogan is a complete a$$, redneck parents, etc.


So which organization do you belong too? There is no better run club than the Hawks and there is no better run tournaments than Hogans. Only people that write garbage like that are the ones who are no longer part of the club.



You do know they had record numbers for all age groups at try outs. They were the most successful club this year in Maryland across the board at every age group . All most all of there 2nd teams won championships this year in multiple events. You do know that the Daddy ball is because the daddy coaches are more qualified to coach than any other club coaches. And yes, the Redneck parents are just as important to the clubs success as the players, coaches and other non rednecks.


They have record numbers at tryouts because their black teams are glorified rec teams. They have championships for all those black teams because Hogan stacks his tournaments so his teams play weaker competition. They weren't the most successful club across all ages - maybe at 2022 but that's it. If those daddy coaches are so qualified then they should just have them coach a different team and not oversee their own kids. And the redneck parents are an embarrassment to the game.




Classic response from a bitter parent. Black teams played up in age or grade in 90% of the tournaments they played in. Since you are so one sided here why don't you say what club you represent? Yes, they were the most successful club this year and most years. This is a fact that is well documented and not up for debate. Funny, how Hogan tournaments attract hundreds of teams each year to tournaments all over the country they stack in favor of their black or 2nd teams. Amusing statements from a bitter parent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/21/17 11:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks is a class organization. We went to all three tryouts and can tell you that I have never seen that much talent on a middle school field in 10 years of lacrosse. The Crabs kid, lefty is outstanding but I know that his father brings some issues. This is not new for any top organization. The dad will either have to get in line or his kid will go to the back of it. I am not a Hawk dad but know good lacrosse when I see it.


Hawks are about as far from a class organization as you can get. Daddy ball, favoritism, Hogan is a complete a$$, redneck parents, etc.


So which organization do you belong too? There is no better run club than the Hawks and there is no better run tournaments than Hogans. Only people that write garbage like that are the ones who are no longer part of the club.



You do know they had record numbers for all age groups at try outs. They were the most successful club this year in Maryland across the board at every age group . All most all of there 2nd teams won championships this year in multiple events. You do know that the Daddy ball is because the daddy coaches are more qualified to coach than any other club coaches. And yes, the Redneck parents are just as important to the clubs success as the players, coaches and other non rednecks.


They have record numbers at tryouts because their black teams are glorified rec teams. They have championships for all those black teams because Hogan stacks his tournaments so his teams play weaker competition. They weren't the most successful club across all ages - maybe at 2022 but that's it. If those daddy coaches are so qualified then they should just have them coach a different team and not oversee their own kids. And the redneck parents are an embarrassment to the game.

The 2018 Black team has always been competitive, the coach's son plays on the Green team, the 2021 Black team is also a competitive team, led by two former Navy Captain's, the head coach doesn't have a son on the team. You should know what you are talking about before you act like you do. Your comment about redneck parents doesn't deserve a response.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/22/17 12:38 AM
Which are the elite clubs at 2023 after tryouts and which are consider bottom of the barrel? I would be curious to what those with actual knowledge have to say.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/22/17 12:42 AM
If the Hawks were so good then why did they only win one division in Naptown, their premier tournament? They even brought in guest players (ringers) to try to win and they couldn't.

My son played on a black team and then a green team for a couple of years. And no, the black teams do not play up. They are purely money makers for hogan.

I agree with the previous poster about the redneck parents. They are the worst.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/22/17 02:25 AM
No guest players for hawks 2023 green, my son is on the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/22/17 12:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which are the elite clubs at 2023 after tryouts and which are consider bottom of the barrel? I would be curious to what those with actual knowledge have to say.


If you are coming on this site to get actual knowledge, you need your head examined.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/22/17 01:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which are the elite clubs at 2023 after tryouts and which are consider bottom of the barrel? I would be curious to what those with actual knowledge have to say.


If you are coming on this site to get actual knowledge, you need your head examined.


Now that is hilarious!!! I was hoping to change the subject and actually start talking about lacrosse but your point is well taken sir!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/22/17 02:27 PM
From what I have seen:
Hawks- A powerhouse
Looney- Benefited from Crabs more than anyone else
Crabs- They reload, give them time
FCA- Always good and benefited from Crabs as well
Team 91- Improving
DiamondBacks, SouthRiver- Maybe taking the next step
Hereford and Howard County- Next level for rec programs
Koopers, Rock, RoughRiders continue to struggle

Just my two cents
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/22/17 03:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the Hawks were so good then why did they only win one division in Naptown, their premier tournament? They even brought in guest players (ringers) to try to win and they couldn't.

My son played on a black team and then a green team for a couple of years. And no, the black teams do not play up. They are purely money makers for hogan.

I agree with the previous poster about the redneck parents. They are the worst.




Again, bitterness
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/22/17 03:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the Hawks were so good then why did they only win one division in Naptown, their premier tournament? They even brought in guest players (ringers) to try to win and they couldn't.

My son played on a black team and then a green team for a couple of years. And no, the black teams do not play up. They are purely money makers for hogan.

I agree with the previous poster about the redneck parents. They are the worst.




Again, bitterness



Only 1?

Naptown is the National Championship that all the best clubs attend. Any club that wins any division is extraordinary.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/22/17 04:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
From what I have seen:
Hawks- A powerhouse
Looney- Benefited from Crabs more than anyone else
Crabs- They reload, give them time
FCA- Always good and benefited from Crabs as well
Team 91- Improving
DiamondBacks, SouthRiver- Maybe taking the next step
Hereford and Howard County- Next level for rec programs
Koopers, Rock, RoughRiders continue to struggle

Just my two cents



Reading between the lines on this board...Does seem accurate
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/22/17 08:56 PM
HoCo should drop 89+2 and RR to A
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/22/17 09:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the Hawks were so good then why did they only win one division in Naptown, their premier tournament? They even brought in guest players (ringers) to try to win and they couldn't.

My son played on a black team and then a green team for a couple of years. And no, the black teams do not play up. They are purely money makers for hogan.

I agree with the previous poster about the redneck parents. They are the worst.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the Hawks were so good then why did they only win one division in Naptown, their premier tournament? They even brought in guest players (ringers) to try to win and they couldn't.

My son played on a black team and then a green team for a couple of years. And no, the black teams do not play up. They are purely money makers for hogan.

I agree with the previous poster about the redneck parents. They are the worst.


no guest players on 2018, try again
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/22/17 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HoCo should drop 89+2 and RR to A


HOCO should make South River and Cavalier move up. They have been sandbagging with hold backs for 2 years now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 12:56 PM
HOCO goes to four division this year. Elite AA A B. madlax RR and 89+2 should stay in AA. South River and Cavaliers should move up to AA.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 01:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO goes to four division this year. Elite AA A B. madlax RR and 89+2 should stay in AA. South River and Cavaliers should move up to AA.


Inevitably who makes this call; HOCO or the Club Team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO goes to four division this year. Elite AA A B. madlax RR and 89+2 should stay in AA. South River and Cavaliers should move up to AA.


Looney's should drop as well, 2 wins in last two years in HoCo. Madlax has more wins than Looney's

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 02:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO goes to four division this year. Elite AA A B. madlax RR and 89+2 should stay in AA. South River and Cavaliers should move up to AA.


Looney's should drop as well, 2 wins in last two years in HoCo. Madlax has more wins than Looney's




Last year they had wins over Club Blue, Madlax, Next Level & FCA during spring or summer. Do you want a league with just 4 teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 02:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO goes to four division this year. Elite AA A B. madlax RR and 89+2 should stay in AA. South River and Cavaliers should move up to AA.


Looney's should drop as well, 2 wins in last two years in HoCo. Madlax has more wins than Looney's


Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 03:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO goes to four division this year. Elite AA A B. madlax RR and 89+2 should stay in AA. South River and Cavaliers should move up to AA.


Looney's should drop as well, 2 wins in last two years in HoCo. Madlax has more wins than Looney's



Looney's is going to be the TOP TEAM in HOCO this year just watch!! Team 91 and RR should play down for sure.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 03:13 PM
Looneys added some talent so should be fine in elite. Elite should be Crabs, Hawks, Club Blue, Next Level, FCA, BLC, Looneys - anyone else?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 03:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looneys added some talent so should be fine in elite. Elite should be Crabs, Hawks, Club Blue, Next Level, FCA, BLC, Looneys - anyone else?



Regardless of who is in the Elite division, it should be 8 teams that play each other (7 games), which may require 1 or 2 night games to complete them in the Lax Season window. HOCO Please listen!!!! We can't continue to have teams loose playoff tie-breaks because they played MD91 and RR (strength of schedule), while the other team did not.

Limit the team and make them play each other......
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO goes to four division this year. Elite AA A B. madlax RR and 89+2 should stay in AA. South River and Cavaliers should move up to AA.


Looney's should drop as well, 2 wins in last two years in HoCo. Madlax has more wins than Looney's



Troll post...No one from Looneys would claim that.... Stop stirring the pot
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 03:32 PM
Just those 7. And all teams play each other. Top 4 make the playoffs. Simple. Fair and balanced. Can't complain that other teams had advantage playing weak and winless RR and/or 89+1. That assumes Looneys improves over there 2-10 record the prior two years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 03:43 PM
The entire "Elite" concept is just silly. It demonstrates the power of the clubs to control what HoCo does. Clubs must market themselves as "AA" which also just stupid. It should be AA, A, B, and C. I agree that relegation makes sense if the club has a consistent pattern of losing in an age group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic response from a bitter parent. Black teams played up in age or grade in 90% of the tournaments they played in. Since you are so one sided here why don't you say what club you represent? Yes, they were the most successful club this year and most years. This is a fact that is well documented and not up for debate. Funny, how Hogan tournaments attract hundreds of teams each year to tournaments all over the country they stack in favor of their black or 2nd teams. Amusing statements from a bitter parent.


Those black teams were so good that Hogan killed all of them but 2 this year. Left all of those kids in a tough spot making that decision after most tryouts are over for all the other clubs. #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/23/17 08:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The entire "Elite" concept is just silly. It demonstrates the power of the clubs to control what HoCo does. Clubs must market themselves as "AA" which also just stupid. It should be AA, A, B, and C. I agree that relegation makes sense if the club has a consistent pattern of losing in an age group.


I think it was more so they didn't have to call the lowest division C.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 12:49 AM
Crabs 2023 just reloaded. Upgrades or solid additions across the board. Goal, Defense, Midfield, and Attack. And an incredible coaching staff on top of that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 01:42 AM
The kids cut from other AA teams really improved crabs. Who cares. Yellow helmet is tarnished.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 01:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2023 just reloaded. Upgrades or solid additions across the board. Goal, Defense, Midfield, and Attack. And an incredible coaching staff on top of that.


Must be a new parent, wait until the end of the season and then we can talk.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 01:55 AM
Get a life loser - solid upgrades or additions across the board? I bet in your youth you read comic books and collected baseball cards but did not play a sport? You are a loser dad and I bet your son repeated 6th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 02:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2023 just reloaded. Upgrades or solid additions across the board. Goal, Defense, Midfield, and Attack. And an incredible coaching staff on top of that.


I see they list the head coaches of Loyola and St Paul's as assistants for 2023. Are they saying those guys are going to coaching full time for this team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 09:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2023 just reloaded. Upgrades or solid additions across the board. Goal, Defense, Midfield, and Attack. And an incredible coaching staff on top of that.


I see they list the head coaches of Loyola and St Paul's as assistants for 2023. Are they saying those guys are going to coaching full time for this team?



More than likely their sons?/relatives? are on the team and they will help out when they can.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 11:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2023 just reloaded. Upgrades or solid additions across the board. Goal, Defense, Midfield, and Attack. And an incredible coaching staff on top of that.


My grandmother called and said she got an invite from Crabs and was wondering if she should accept.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 12:08 PM
[quote=Anonymous]Crabs 2023 just reloaded. Upgrades or solid additions across the board. Goal, Defense, Midfield, and Attack. And an incredible coaching staff on top of that. [/quote

Hahaha. That is why brim and crew are nonstop recruiting kids who were 3rd string last year to come back...and that is in between getting rejected from the Hawks, who wanted no part of his nonsense. I wonder how the crabs like him going there and trying so hard for a spot after registering for crabs. Bottom line is that as long as brim is there, the team will not be the same.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 12:09 PM
Sounds like an upset dad just realized that their kid got replaced by bigger, better and faster. I think it's funny they think they have the power to tarnish anyone's reputation.
You come on an anonymous forum to talk crap about other people. You try to talk to anyone face to face and they laugh because they can actually see who it's coming from.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 12:20 PM
I am assuming the parents that moved on to Looneys, FCA and team91 didn't notice that all of the coaches are dad's?! Weird that you keep mentionioning daddy ball and coaches who are relatives. Every 2023 team has a dad coach except for crabs. They have high school coaches. Cannot go wrong with having those outstanding coaches!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 02:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic response from a bitter parent. Black teams played up in age or grade in 90% of the tournaments they played in. Since you are so one sided here why don't you say what club you represent? Yes, they were the most successful club this year and most years. This is a fact that is well documented and not up for debate. Funny, how Hogan tournaments attract hundreds of teams each year to tournaments all over the country they stack in favor of their black or 2nd teams. Amusing statements from a bitter parent.


Those black teams were so good that Hogan killed all of them but 2 this year. Left all of those kids in a tough spot making that decision after most tryouts are over for all the other clubs. #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck


Bitter, uninformed little man
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am assuming the parents that moved on to Looneys, FCA and team91 didn't notice that all of the coaches are dad's?! Weird that you keep mentionioning daddy ball and coaches who are relatives. Every 2023 team has a dad coach except for crabs. They have high school coaches. Cannot go wrong with having those outstanding coaches!

I am assuming that you didn't realize that no one cares about this crap anymore and that you should move on... Everyone who is gone or stayed is happy with their decision....Move along
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic response from a bitter parent. Black teams played up in age or grade in 90% of the tournaments they played in. Since you are so one sided here why don't you say what club you represent? Yes, they were the most successful club this year and most years. This is a fact that is well documented and not up for debate. Funny, how Hogan tournaments attract hundreds of teams each year to tournaments all over the country they stack in favor of their black or 2nd teams. Amusing statements from a bitter parent.


Those black teams were so good that Hogan killed all of them but 2 this year. Left all of those kids in a tough spot making that decision after most tryouts are over for all the other clubs. #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck


Bitter, uninformed little man


You must be talking about hogan.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am assuming the parents that moved on to Looneys, FCA and team91 didn't notice that all of the coaches are dad's?! Weird that you keep mentionioning daddy ball and coaches who are relatives. Every 2023 team has a dad coach except for crabs. They have high school coaches. Cannot go wrong with having those outstanding coaches!

I am assuming that you didn't realize that no one cares about this crap anymore and that you should move on... Everyone who is gone or stayed is happy with their decision....Move along

Some of them have returned to Crabs from both Looneys and team91...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 06:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic response from a bitter parent. Black teams played up in age or grade in 90% of the tournaments they played in. Since you are so one sided here why don't you say what club you represent? Yes, they were the most successful club this year and most years. This is a fact that is well documented and not up for debate. Funny, how Hogan tournaments attract hundreds of teams each year to tournaments all over the country they stack in favor of their black or 2nd teams. Amusing statements from a bitter parent.


Those black teams were so good that Hogan killed all of them but 2 this year. Left all of those kids in a tough spot making that decision after most tryouts are over for all the other clubs. #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck


Bitter, uninformed little man


You must be talking about hogan.


bwahahaha love it! #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 06:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am assuming the parents that moved on to Looneys, FCA and team91 didn't notice that all of the coaches are dad's?! Weird that you keep mentionioning daddy ball and coaches who are relatives. Every 2023 team has a dad coach except for crabs. They have high school coaches. Cannot go wrong with having those outstanding coaches!

I am assuming that you didn't realize that no one cares about this crap anymore and that you should move on... Everyone who is gone or stayed is happy with their decision....Move along

Some of them have returned to Crabs from both Looneys and team91...


Must have realized that the grass isn't greener on the other side with 91 and Looney's.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am assuming the parents that moved on to Looneys, FCA and team91 didn't notice that all of the coaches are dad's?! Weird that you keep mentionioning daddy ball and coaches who are relatives. Every 2023 team has a dad coach except for crabs. They have high school coaches. Cannot go wrong with having those outstanding coaches!

I am assuming that you didn't realize that no one cares about this crap anymore and that you should move on... Everyone who is gone or stayed is happy with their decision....Move along

Some of them have returned to Crabs from both Looneys and team91...


Must have realized that the grass isn't greener on the other side with 91 and Looney's.


There are good coaches, and there are bad coaches, and being a Dad has nothing to do with it. If you let your status as a Dad negatively affect your coaching, than at the very least, you have room for improvement, or perhaps you you are just bad. Thank god for all of the great coaches out there, volunteering their time in youth sports, Dads or not.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 10:29 PM
Those black teams were so good that Hogan killed all of them but 2 this year. Left all of those kids in a tough spot making that decision after most tryouts are over for all the other clubs. #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck [/quote]

Bitter, uninformed little man
[/quote]

You must be talking about hogan.[/quote]

bwahahaha love it! #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck[/quote]

don't post a reply, wait two hours and then reply to yourself pretending to be someone else, pretty transparent, go grind your ax somewhere else
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/24/17 11:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Those black teams were so good that Hogan killed all of them but 2 this year. Left all of those kids in a tough spot making that decision after most tryouts are over for all the other clubs. #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck


Bitter, uninformed little man
[/quote]

You must be talking about hogan.[/quote]

bwahahaha love it! #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck[/quote]

don't post a reply, wait two hours and then reply to yourself pretending to be someone else, pretty transparent, go grind your ax somewhere else
[/quote]

Well I'm not sure who the hashtag guy is but I'm the one who posted the comment that you must be talking about hogan. I'm not sure I have ever even used a hashtag before. Nice try though. Don't let him get under your skin, that's what he is trying to do.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 03:43 PM
2023 Rankings

Crabs
Club Blue
FCA/Hawks/Next Level - These team I believe are all on the same level; I would lean towards FCA
Looney's
BLC
Madlax
RR
Team 91

Thoughts........now don't jump down my throat I am just offering an opinion which is the purpose of the forum; to generate logical and intelligent discussion.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 04:28 PM
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 Rankings

Crabs
Club Blue
FCA/Hawks/Next Level - These team I believe are all on the same level; I would lean towards FCA
Looney's
BLC
Madlax
RR
Team 91

Thoughts........now don't jump down my throat I am just offering an opinion which is the purpose of the forum; to generate logical and intelligent discussion.


Playing field a lot more even now that Crabs was dimantled.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?


Crabs lost some potent offensive weapons. But kept their awesome goalie, and upgraded at defense.
Also somehow convinced some kids that committed to other teams to come back. Coaching change will be a HUGE benefit. Was always part of the plan. If club management can eliminate the influence of one particular parent/former coach, they'll be competitive as always.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 04:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 Rankings

Crabs
Club Blue
FCA/Hawks/Next Level - These team I believe are all on the same level; I would lean towards FCA
Looney's
BLC
Madlax
RR
Team 91

Thoughts........now don't jump down my throat I am just offering an opinion which is the purpose of the forum; to generate logical and intelligent discussion.


I would say Hawks are clearly the team to beat. They finished the summer on a roll and beat a lot of good teams pretty handily. Behind them would be Club Blue who won the league last year. After that, it is tough to separate any of the teams, especially with all of the player movement that seems to happen every year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 05:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?


Crabs lost some potent offensive weapons. But kept their awesome goalie, and upgraded at defense.
Also somehow convinced some kids that committed to other teams to come back. Coaching change will be a HUGE benefit. Was always part of the plan. If club management can eliminate the influence of one particular parent/former coach, they'll be competitive as always.


The players that Crabs picked up are an upgrade compared to any that were lost, on offense and defense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?


Crabs lost some potent offensive weapons. But kept their awesome goalie, and upgraded at defense.
Also somehow convinced some kids that committed to other teams to come back. Coaching change will be a HUGE benefit. Was always part of the plan. If club management can eliminate the influence of one particular parent/former coach, they'll be competitive as always.


The players that Crabs picked up are an upgrade compared to any that were lost, on offense and defense.


Regardless of the drama that has followed the Crabs 2023 Team this club at this age group seems to simply reload every year so to have them at #1 should not be a surprise to anyone. Look out for FCA and Looney's this year; both teams added a ton of new talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?


Crabs lost some potent offensive weapons. But kept their awesome goalie, and upgraded at defense.
Also somehow convinced some kids that committed to other teams to come back. Coaching change will be a HUGE benefit. Was always part of the plan. If club management can eliminate the influence of one particular parent/former coach, they'll be competitive as always.


The players that Crabs picked up are an upgrade compared to any that were lost, on offense and defense.


Regardless of the drama that has followed the Crabs 2023 Team this club at this age group seems to simply reload every year so to have them at #1 should not be a surprise to anyone. Look out for FCA and Looney's this year; both teams added a ton of new talent.


Is Flat Brim out as the coach? Where did they go?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 06:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 Rankings

Crabs
Club Blue
FCA/Hawks/Next Level - These team I believe are all on the same level; I would lean towards FCA
Looney's
BLC
Madlax
RR
Team 91

Thoughts........now don't jump down my throat I am just offering an opinion which is the purpose of the forum; to generate logical and intelligent discussion.


Playing field a lot more even now that Crabs was dimantled.


Yeah, they may go 44-3 this year instead of 45-2.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 07:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?


Crabs lost some potent offensive weapons. But kept their awesome goalie, and upgraded at defense.
Also somehow convinced some kids that committed to other teams to come back. Coaching change will be a HUGE benefit. Was always part of the plan. If club management can eliminate the influence of one particular parent/former coach, they'll be competitive as always.


The players that Crabs picked up are an upgrade compared to any that were lost, on offense and defense.


Regardless of the drama that has followed the Crabs 2023 Team this club at this age group seems to simply reload every year so to have them at #1 should not be a surprise to anyone. Look out for FCA and Looney's this year; both teams added a ton of new talent.


Is Flat Brim out as the coach? Where did they go?


Don't worry you will see plenty of Flat Brim at Crabs games, he'll be sitting next to you trying to recruit your kid. I feel sorry for the kids that backfilled that roster.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 07:32 PM
LOL. Madlax 2023 sucks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 07:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LOL. Madlax 2023 sucks.


Not as bad as RR and 89+2; those 3 need to move down in my opinion.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 08:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?


Crabs lost some potent offensive weapons. But kept their awesome goalie, and upgraded at defense.
Also somehow convinced some kids that committed to other teams to come back. Coaching change will be a HUGE benefit. Was always part of the plan. If club management can eliminate the influence of one particular parent/former coach, they'll be competitive as always.


The players that Crabs picked up are an upgrade compared to any that were lost, on offense and defense.


Haha! Oh, you're right. The new players all so much better than #24. Definite upgrade. Joke. Either you are blind or just stupid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 08:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?


Crabs lost some potent offensive weapons. But kept their awesome goalie, and upgraded at defense.
Also somehow convinced some kids that committed to other teams to come back. Coaching change will be a HUGE benefit. Was always part of the plan. If club management can eliminate the influence of one particular parent/former coach, they'll be competitive as always.


The players that Crabs picked up are an upgrade compared to any that were lost, on offense and defense.


Regardless of the drama that has followed the Crabs 2023 Team this club at this age group seems to simply reload every year so to have them at #1 should not be a surprise to anyone. Look out for FCA and Looney's this year; both teams added a ton of new talent.


Is Flat Brim out as the coach? Where did they go?


Yes. Out as coach. Kid is still there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 09:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?


Crabs lost some potent offensive weapons. But kept their awesome goalie, and upgraded at defense.
Also somehow convinced some kids that committed to other teams to come back. Coaching change will be a HUGE benefit. Was always part of the plan. If club management can eliminate the influence of one particular parent/former coach, they'll be competitive as always.


The players that Crabs picked up are an upgrade compared to any that were lost, on offense and defense.


Haha! Oh, you're right. The new players all so much better than #24. Definite upgrade. Joke. Either you are blind or just stupid.


Well, we know #24's Dad is on this forum.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 09:08 PM
How much of a d!co bag do you have to be to not even get an invite from a rival club even though your kid is one of the top 2-3 players there?

Hawks could have seriously upgraded by taking flat brim' s kid and the other crab kid who came from the Hawks.

It was near unanimous that Hawks would rather lose every game than deal with those 2 clown dads. Feel bad for the kids. The ex Hawk kid was telling his former teammates he wanted to stay with Crabs. But good ol daddy knows best!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 09:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?


Crabs lost some potent offensive weapons. But kept their awesome goalie, and upgraded at defense.
Also somehow convinced some kids that committed to other teams to come back. Coaching change will be a HUGE benefit. Was always part of the plan. If club management can eliminate the influence of one particular parent/former coach, they'll be competitive as always.


The players that Crabs picked up are an upgrade compared to any that were lost, on offense and defense.

Must be a new parent....Way to pump up your kid by knocking down others.... You must be so proud
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 09:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?


Crabs lost some potent offensive weapons. But kept their awesome goalie, and upgraded at defense.
Also somehow convinced some kids that committed to other teams to come back. Coaching change will be a HUGE benefit. Was always part of the plan. If club management can eliminate the influence of one particular parent/former coach, they'll be competitive as always.


The players that Crabs picked up are an upgrade compared to any that were lost, on offense and defense.


Haha! Oh, you're right. The new players all so much better than #24. Definite upgrade. Joke. Either you are blind or just stupid.


Well, we know #24's Dad is on this forum.


Especially how upset he got when someone brought up that #24 was now playing 2022.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 10:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?


Crabs lost some potent offensive weapons. But kept their awesome goalie, and upgraded at defense.
Also somehow convinced some kids that committed to other teams to come back. Coaching change will be a HUGE benefit. Was always part of the plan. If club management can eliminate the influence of one particular parent/former coach, they'll be competitive as always.


The players that Crabs picked up are an upgrade compared to any that were lost, on offense and defense.


Haha! Oh, you're right. The new players all so much better than #24. Definite upgrade. Joke. Either you are blind or just stupid.


Well, we know #24's Dad is on this forum.


Not.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/29/17 11:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How much of a d!co bag do you have to be to not even get an invite from a rival club even though your kid is one of the top 2-3 players there?

Hawks could have seriously upgraded by taking flat brim' s kid and the other crab kid who came from the Hawks.

It was near unanimous that Hawks would rather lose every game than deal with those 2 clown dads. Feel bad for the kids. The ex Hawk kid was telling his former teammates he wanted to stay with Crabs. But good ol daddy knows best!!!



No need to feel bad for these kids. Both ended up where they are happy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/30/17 12:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rr and 91 should play one or two levels down. How can you put crabs at the top with a personnel and coaching overhaul?


Crabs lost some potent offensive weapons. But kept their awesome goalie, and upgraded at defense.
Also somehow convinced some kids that committed to other teams to come back. Coaching change will be a HUGE benefit. Was always part of the plan. If club management can eliminate the influence of one particular parent/former coach, they'll be competitive as always.


The players that Crabs picked up are an upgrade compared to any that were lost, on offense and defense.


Haha! Oh, you're right. The new players all so much better than #24. Definite upgrade. Joke. Either you are blind or just stupid.


Well, we know #24's Dad is on this forum.


Especially how upset he got when someone brought up that #24 was now playing 2022.


He is playing up because he is very talented.
He & Hawks kid are two of the best at this age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/30/17 12:30 AM
That is pretty funny. In the same thread you talk about how bad RR and 91 are and how great the new crabs players are...at least three of the new crabs players came from RR and 91. Nice try new crabs dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/30/17 12:41 AM
Where are they playing now
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/30/17 03:08 AM
91 definitely should move down if they had to hold a supplemental tryout because of low turnout.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/30/17 12:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is pretty funny. In the same thread you talk about how bad RR and 91 are and how great the new crabs players are...at least three of the new crabs players came from RR and 91. Nice try new crabs dad.


I know the new goalie for 2023 Crabs came from 91; I don't see him starting and possibly sharing time with the current goalie who is exceptional. It doesn't change the fact that 91 and RR are clubs that really should be playing A ball; there is nothing wrong with that but these clubs are trying to sell AA status which they are clearly not.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/30/17 10:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is pretty funny. In the same thread you talk about how bad RR and 91 are and how great the new crabs players are...at least three of the new crabs players came from RR and 91. Nice try new crabs dad.


I know the new goalie for 2023 Crabs came from 91; I don't see him starting and possibly sharing time with the current goalie who is exceptional. It doesn't change the fact that 91 and RR are clubs that really should be playing A ball; there is nothing wrong with that but these clubs are trying to sell AA status which they are clearly not.


Crabs will struggle next year with the lack of talent. No one can fill the void that #24 is creating by playing up, won't be surprised to see him make some guest appearances in the summer, I imagine he will be back next year. Best talent at face off left the team and one of those who remain probably shouldn't be playing. Goalie situation is sad both kids deserve to start on a team, too bad one will be keeping the bench warm. I'm sure the goalie parents will be best friends by season's end. Remains to be seen if the new kids and those who stuck around can step up to the talent level that left.
Careful what you wish for though if 91 and RR are easy Ws you might want to keep them around because Ws might be hard to come by for this Crabs team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/31/17 03:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is pretty funny. In the same thread you talk about how bad RR and 91 are and how great the new crabs players are...at least three of the new crabs players came from RR and 91. Nice try new crabs dad.


I know the new goalie for 2023 Crabs came from 91; I don't see him starting and possibly sharing time with the current goalie who is exceptional. It doesn't change the fact that 91 and RR are clubs that really should be playing A ball; there is nothing wrong with that but these clubs are trying to sell AA status which they are clearly not.


Crabs will struggle next year with the lack of talent. No one can fill the void that #24 is creating by playing up, won't be surprised to see him make some guest appearances in the summer, I imagine he will be back next year. Best talent at face off left the team and one of those who remain probably shouldn't be playing. Goalie situation is sad both kids deserve to start on a team, too bad one will be keeping the bench warm. I'm sure the goalie parents will be best friends by season's end. Remains to be seen if the new kids and those who stuck around can step up to the talent level that left.
Careful what you wish for though if 91 and RR are easy Ws you might want to keep them around because Ws might be hard to come by for this Crabs team.


I had a fart a couple minutes ago that was more interesting than your drivel.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/31/17 01:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is pretty funny. In the same thread you talk about how bad RR and 91 are and how great the new crabs players are...at least three of the new crabs players came from RR and 91. Nice try new crabs dad.


I know the new goalie for 2023 Crabs came from 91; I don't see him starting and possibly sharing time with the current goalie who is exceptional. It doesn't change the fact that 91 and RR are clubs that really should be playing A ball; there is nothing wrong with that but these clubs are trying to sell AA status which they are clearly not.


Crabs will struggle next year with the lack of talent. No one can fill the void that #24 is creating by playing up, won't be surprised to see him make some guest appearances in the summer, I imagine he will be back next year. Best talent at face off left the team and one of those who remain probably shouldn't be playing. Goalie situation is sad both kids deserve to start on a team, too bad one will be keeping the bench warm. I'm sure the goalie parents will be best friends by season's end. Remains to be seen if the new kids and those who stuck around can step up to the talent level that left.
Careful what you wish for though if 91 and RR are easy Ws you might want to keep them around because Ws might be hard to come by for this Crabs team.


So if Crabs is imploding and lacks talent; who is the next big club team at 2023 to take their place? I am seeing a lot of Hawks and FCA love lately.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/31/17 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is pretty funny. In the same thread you talk about how bad RR and 91 are and how great the new crabs players are...at least three of the new crabs players came from RR and 91. Nice try new crabs dad.


I know the new goalie for 2023 Crabs came from 91; I don't see him starting and possibly sharing time with the current goalie who is exceptional. It doesn't change the fact that 91 and RR are clubs that really should be playing A ball; there is nothing wrong with that but these clubs are trying to sell AA status which they are clearly not.


Crabs will struggle next year with the lack of talent. No one can fill the void that #24 is creating by playing up, won't be surprised to see him make some guest appearances in the summer, I imagine he will be back next year. Best talent at face off left the team and one of those who remain probably shouldn't be playing. Goalie situation is sad both kids deserve to start on a team, too bad one will be keeping the bench warm. I'm sure the goalie parents will be best friends by season's end. Remains to be seen if the new kids and those who stuck around can step up to the talent level that left.
Careful what you wish for though if 91 and RR are easy Ws you might want to keep them around because Ws might be hard to come by for this Crabs team.


So if Crabs is imploding and lacks talent; who is the next big club team at 2023 to take their place? I am seeing a lot of Hawks and FCA love lately.


FCA will still struggle. They do no have the middies to get them up and down the field... Faceoffs will still be a struggle and the goalie situation is not great. Attack will be OK but I hope new kids know that only several kids on the team have the green light to shoot.

Hawks minus their summer guest player is average at best.... Dad/Coach defensemen politics kills this team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/31/17 03:57 PM
Seems to me that there will be 6 or 7 AA teams that could all beat each other on a give day. It will all be settled on the field by kids in the spring. It will be great fun for all unless adults spoil it. Posters are pointing out specific kids by number and position. That used to be against the rules and monitored, Not sure why that changed but seriously - it should stop.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/31/17 04:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is pretty funny. In the same thread you talk about how bad RR and 91 are and how great the new crabs players are...at least three of the new crabs players came from RR and 91. Nice try new crabs dad.


I know the new goalie for 2023 Crabs came from 91; I don't see him starting and possibly sharing time with the current goalie who is exceptional. It doesn't change the fact that 91 and RR are clubs that really should be playing A ball; there is nothing wrong with that but these clubs are trying to sell AA status which they are clearly not.


Crabs will struggle next year with the lack of talent. No one can fill the void that #24 is creating by playing up, won't be surprised to see him make some guest appearances in the summer, I imagine he will be back next year. Best talent at face off left the team and one of those who remain probably shouldn't be playing. Goalie situation is sad both kids deserve to start on a team, too bad one will be keeping the bench warm. I'm sure the goalie parents will be best friends by season's end. Remains to be seen if the new kids and those who stuck around can step up to the talent level that left.
Careful what you wish for though if 91 and RR are easy Ws you might want to keep them around because Ws might be hard to come by for this Crabs team.


So if Crabs is imploding and lacks talent; who is the next big club team at 2023 to take their place? I am seeing a lot of Hawks and FCA love lately.


FCA will still struggle. They do no have the middies to get them up and down the field... Faceoffs will still be a struggle and the goalie situation is not great. Attack will be OK but I hope new kids know that only several kids on the team have the green light to shoot.

Hawks minus their summer guest player is average at best.... Dad/Coach defensemen politics kills this team


Hawks parent here. Who was our guest player last Summer? News to me. Agree though on the defensive coach. You know it's bad when the attack and middies parents notice it
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/31/17 06:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is pretty funny. In the same thread you talk about how bad RR and 91 are and how great the new crabs players are...at least three of the new crabs players came from RR and 91. Nice try new crabs dad.


I know the new goalie for 2023 Crabs came from 91; I don't see him starting and possibly sharing time with the current goalie who is exceptional. It doesn't change the fact that 91 and RR are clubs that really should be playing A ball; there is nothing wrong with that but these clubs are trying to sell AA status which they are clearly not.


Crabs will struggle next year with the lack of talent. No one can fill the void that #24 is creating by playing up, won't be surprised to see him make some guest appearances in the summer, I imagine he will be back next year. Best talent at face off left the team and one of those who remain probably shouldn't be playing. Goalie situation is sad both kids deserve to start on a team, too bad one will be keeping the bench warm. I'm sure the goalie parents will be best friends by season's end. Remains to be seen if the new kids and those who stuck around can step up to the talent level that left.
Careful what you wish for though if 91 and RR are easy Ws you might want to keep them around because Ws might be hard to come by for this Crabs team.


So if Crabs is imploding and lacks talent; who is the next big club team at 2023 to take their place? I am seeing a lot of Hawks and FCA love lately.


FCA will still struggle. They do no have the middies to get them up and down the field... Faceoffs will still be a struggle and the goalie situation is not great. Attack will be OK but I hope new kids know that only several kids on the team have the green light to shoot.

Hawks minus their summer guest player is average at best.... Dad/Coach defensemen politics kills this team


Hawks parent here. Who was our guest player last Summer? News to me. Agree though on the defensive coach. You know it's bad when the attack and middies parents notice it


even the parents admit it... #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/31/17 08:26 PM


FCA will still struggle. They do no have the middies to get them up and down the field... Faceoffs will still be a struggle and the goalie situation is not great. Attack will be OK but I hope new kids know that only several kids on the team have the green light to shoot.

Hawks minus their summer guest player is average at best.... Dad/Coach defensemen politics kills this team[/quote]

Hawks parent here. Who was our guest player last Summer? News to me. Agree though on the defensive coach. You know it's bad when the attack and middies parents notice it[/quote]

even the parents admit it... #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck
[/quote]

Sorry little Biff got cut! Tell him to hit the wall and we will see him get cut again next August
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/31/17 10:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry little Biff got cut! Tell him to hit the wall and we will see him get cut again next August


sorry your parents were related and your wife is a pig. #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/01/17 12:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry little Biff got cut! Tell him to hit the wall and we will see him get cut again next August


sorry your parents were related and your wife is a pig. #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck


This has to be flat brim, right? Sorry you are to much of an a hole and your son didn't even get an offer. Also sorry we embarrassed you and [lacrosse] down little Biff in Young Guns. It was only a game Brim.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/01/17 01:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry little Biff got cut! Tell him to hit the wall and we will see him get cut again next August


sorry your parents were related and your wife is a pig. #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck


This has to be flat brim, right? Sorry you are to much of an a hole and your son didn't even get an offer. Also sorry we embarrassed you and [lacrosse] down little Biff in Young Guns. It was only a game Brim.


nope, not flat brim but nice try. will you please tell your wife to stop changing lip stick. my junk is starting to look like a rainbow. #underyourskin #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck



Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/01/17 12:06 PM
No guest players for Hawks 2023. Same roster in October as July. They just showed improvement. It does help that they have probably the best offensive player in the nation scoring or assisting on 90% of their goals.
Hawks will be better in 2018. Even though they won two very impressive tournaments they replaced 5-6 players and upgraded at several positions.
Hawks do not have the market cornered on Rednecks BTW, plenty to go around.

Do not sleep on API, much improved
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/01/17 01:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry little Biff got cut! Tell him to hit the wall and we will see him get cut again next August


sorry your parents were related and your wife is a pig. #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck


This has to be flat brim, right? Sorry you are to much of an a hole and your son didn't even get an offer. Also sorry we embarrassed you and [lacrosse] down little Biff in Young Guns. It was only a game Brim.


So FB kid tried out for Hawks? Was he not given a spot due to ability of the Dad just being who he is?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/01/17 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No guest players for Hawks 2023. Same roster in October as July. They just showed improvement. It does help that they have probably the best offensive player in the nation scoring or assisting on 90% of their goals.
Hawks will be better in 2018. Even though they won two very impressive tournaments they replaced 5-6 players and upgraded at several positions.
Hawks do not have the market cornered on Rednecks BTW, plenty to go around.

Do not sleep on API, much improved


API? Now that's funny. They lost several players this year so I am not sure what you are smoking.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/01/17 08:09 PM
We played them at Hogans Summer Exposure and they were definitely very good but they didn't win the tourney. What 2 Impressive tourneys did they win. Not trying to be confrontational at all just curious.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/01/17 08:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry little Biff got cut! Tell him to hit the wall and we will see him get cut again next August


sorry your parents were related and your wife is a pig. #hoganisadbag #redneckparents #hawkssuck


This has to be flat brim, right? Sorry you are to much of an a hole and your son didn't even get an offer. Also sorry we embarrassed you and [lacrosse] down little Biff in Young Guns. It was only a game Brim.


So FB kid tried out for Hawks? Was he not given a spot due to ability of the Dad just being who he is?


Not with the Hawks so have no idea why but it couldn't have been because of ability since the kid is very good. Not sure if it is because his dad is am [lacrosse]......but he is
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/01/17 11:31 PM
Hawks won McDonough with big wins over FCA and loonies as well as young guns
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/02/17 04:39 AM
You have to feel bad for the kid but Hawks made a decision based on having to deal with Flat Brim. The son would have helped the team no doubt but not worth the circus he brings. Credit to Hogan for saying no
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/03/17 03:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have to feel bad for the kid but Hawks made a decision based on having to deal with Flat Brim. The son would have helped the team no doubt but not worth the circus he brings. Credit to Hogan for saying no


Is this for real.. This " Flat brim" is that bad?? What does he do that is so bad?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/03/17 05:15 PM
RR 23 done?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/03/17 06:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have to feel bad for the kid but Hawks made a decision based on having to deal with Flat Brim. The son would have helped the team no doubt but not worth the circus he brings. Credit to Hogan for saying no


Is this for real.. This " Flat brim" is that bad?? What does he do that is so bad?


Kid was already on Crabs roster when he went to Hawks tryouts.
Pretty sure Dad was just using as an opportunity to recruit new players for Crabs.
He's a special guy, that's for sure.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/03/17 09:56 PM
He must be special to you. You sure do talk about him enough. Can we get back to lacrosse? Yes, RR folded.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/04/17 01:52 PM
What teams still need players that some of the displaced RR boys could go to?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/04/17 03:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What teams still need players that some of the displaced RR boys could go to?


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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/04/17 04:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What teams still need players that some of the displaced RR boys could go to?


It might be tough to find a spot right now. Most clubs already have their rosters set.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/04/17 04:32 PM
RR folded a team? Stole from the Looney's playbook.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/04/17 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What teams still need players that some of the displaced RR boys could go to?


Hawks eliminated their second 2023 team, so those kids might need some place to go also.
Unfortunately, they weren't told until the last day of tryouts and many had no back-up plan.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 08:51 AM
Only RR 2023 folded. not the club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 12:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What teams still need players that some of the displaced RR boys could go to?



Anyone know what happened?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 01:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What teams still need players that some of the displaced RR boys could go to?



Anyone know what happened?



They lost every game in HOCO for the last 2 years
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 02:06 PM
Why would they not just drop down a level? Should be more to the story.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would they not just drop down a level? Should be more to the story.


Too many clubs, not enough talent to go around.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 03:59 PM
Md team 89+2 2023 will lose every game in HoCo this year for the second consecutive year but I doubt they fold.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 04:14 PM
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 05:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


Says the guy whose son was cut from RR and is now a Zingos asst coach. Totally in line with what to expect on this forum.

There are too many clubs and choices these days. Flavor of the week teams and kids / parents looking for the greener grass are going to have this affect every year moving forward on one club team or another.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 06:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


sometimes your best coaches weren't D-1 studs, but rather people who weren't athletically gifted and worked harder then most to compete
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


sometimes your best coaches weren't D-1 studs, but rather people who weren't athletically gifted and worked harder then most to compete


Like coach DeMar used to say....

"Run that way, really fast!! if a D-pole gets in your way, turn and score!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 07:56 PM
What is Zingos?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 08:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


sometimes your best coaches weren't D-1 studs, but rather people who weren't athletically gifted and worked harder then most to compete


Like coach DeMar used to say....

"Run that way, really fast!! if a D-pole gets in your way, turn and score!!


as I tell my son, score more goals than the other team and you always win
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/05/17 10:55 PM
Zingos are a club in MD. Not very good but they have some very strong coaches on their teams

http://www.zingoslacrosse.com/
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/06/17 01:35 AM
Zingos are horrible.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/06/17 01:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


RR 2024 also had a hard time filling their roster. I think once your kid reaches 7th and 6th grade parents figure out who is coaching for the right reason and who is coaching strictly for their son.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/06/17 02:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


RR 2024 also had a hard time filling their roster. I think once your kid reaches 7th and 6th grade parents figure out who is coaching for the right reason and who is coaching strictly for their son.

Yes, because if you look at the threads dedicated to older kids, you never see complaints of daddy ball.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/06/17 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


RR 2024 also had a hard time filling their roster. I think once your kid reaches 7th and 6th grade parents figure out who is coaching for the right reason and who is coaching strictly for their son.


Not all dad coaches are in it for their kid alone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/06/17 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


RR 2024 also had a hard time filling their roster. I think once your kid reaches 7th and 6th grade parents figure out who is coaching for the right reason and who is coaching strictly for their son.


Not all dad coaches are in it for their kid alone.


Agreed. Dad coaches are critical IMO at the younger ages.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/06/17 04:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


RR 2024 also had a hard time filling their roster. I think once your kid reaches 7th and 6th grade parents figure out who is coaching for the right reason and who is coaching strictly for their son.


Not all dad coaches are in it for their kid alone.


Agreed. Dad coaches are critical IMO at the younger ages.


I agree with this as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/06/17 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


sometimes your best coaches weren't D-1 studs, but rather people who weren't athletically gifted and worked harder then most to compete


Agreed
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/06/17 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


RR 2024 also had a hard time filling their roster. I think once your kid reaches 7th and 6th grade parents figure out who is coaching for the right reason and who is coaching strictly for their son.


Not all dad coaches are in it for their kid alone.


Agreed. Dad coaches are critical IMO at the younger ages.


I agree with this as well.


Also agree. Many good/viable programs would not exist if it were not for the participation of father's whose son or daughter is on his/her team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/06/17 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


Says the guy whose son was cut from RR and is now a Zingos asst coach. Totally in line with what to expect on this forum.

There are too many clubs and choices these days. Flavor of the week teams and kids / parents looking for the greener grass are going to have this affect every year moving forward on one club team or another.


Wrong! My son didnt get cut. He is a solid 3.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/06/17 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


Says the guy whose son was cut from RR and is now a Zingos asst coach. Totally in line with what to expect on this forum.

There are too many clubs and choices these days. Flavor of the week teams and kids / parents looking for the greener grass are going to have this affect every year moving forward on one club team or another.


Wrong! My son didnt get cut. He is a solid 3.

And you are a solid zero, Zingos just hasn't figured that out yet.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/07/17 01:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


RR 2024 also had a hard time filling their roster. I think once your kid reaches 7th and 6th grade parents figure out who is coaching for the right reason and who is coaching strictly for their son.


Not all dad coaches are in it for their kid alone.


Agreed, but big difference between Daddy Ball and a Dad who coaches.
It's a rare Dad who can just be a coach of their own kid.
Shouldn't happen beyond 6th/7th Grade. Best for everyone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/07/17 05:52 PM
Great to see that Millon is doing the National Championship this year for 2023s.
I was worried he might skip a year.
It was the most competitive tourney in the country for 2022s last year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/07/17 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the head coaches bio on the CSE website... that should tell you enough why the team folded. Would you pay 2k for that type of lacrosse experience? There are more knowledgeable coaches at Zingos and HoCo.


RR 2024 also had a hard time filling their roster. I think once your kid reaches 7th and 6th grade parents figure out who is coaching for the right reason and who is coaching strictly for their son.


Not all dad coaches are in it for their kid alone.


Agreed, but big difference between Daddy Ball and a Dad who coaches.
It's a rare Dad who can just be a coach of their own kid.
Shouldn't happen beyond 6th/7th Grade. Best for everyone.


in an ideal world you wouldn't have parent coaches, but in reality it is a must. lax has completely transitioned to club and the fees for the competitive clubs are $1500 and up, some being over $2000. not many people are going to volunteer their time especially summers to coach a team they don't have a child on without being paid and expenses for tournaments paid.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/07/17 06:48 PM
So many of the best coaches in the game today have coached their sons not only in youth/middle school but also in high school and even college.

Look at the MIAA "A" Conference and almost every team has a head coach or assistant coach with a son on the team including at least the last four league champions.

At an even higher level it also seems to have worked out for Tierney, Danowski, Zimmerman, Corrigan, Desko just to name a few guys who coached their sons in college
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/07/17 08:19 PM
Evergreen 2023 is going to join HOCO and surprise everyone, with or without daddy coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/07/17 09:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen 2023 is going to join HOCO and surprise everyone, with or without daddy coaches.



They really only lack one thing.


Talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So many of the best coaches in the game today have coached their sons not only in youth/middle school but also in high school and even college.

Look at the MIAA "A" Conference and almost every team has a head coach or assistant coach with a son on the team including at least the last four league champions.

At an even higher level it also seems to have worked out for Tierney, Danowski, Zimmerman, Corrigan, Desko just to name a few guys who coached their sons in college


Wow, so you are saying that less than 1% of the Dad's who coach their kid ends up being a stud? Great point you made. And guess what, the guys you listed are outstanding coaches so it would make sense for their son to play for them at a great college if they are good enough.

Do you plan on coaching your son in college? How about high school? What's gonna happen when little Johnnie tries out in high school and doesn't start right away? Are you going to force your way onto the coaching staff to make sure your son starts? Call the coach and complain? It happens every year, we see kids try out and feel entitled because Dad has given them everything on the lacrosse field. Do yourself a favor and let your kid succeed and fail on their own without your help.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 01:31 PM
Everone likes to talk about "Daddy Ball" on this forum. From what I have seen on the fields, the best players are typically the coaches kids. It doesn't look like anything is handed to them. They are simply good players. It's not like their dad is on the field scoring goals, saving goals or defending the goal. Talent is talent regardless if their dad is a coach. Do you think if a dad isn't coaching a team with his kid on it that your son will somehow get better? Your kid has the same chances to perform on a field as a coaches son does. If anything, it is more pressure to be a coaches kid. You probably never thought of it that way. You are to worried about your little Jonnie trying to get more playing time. Here is a tip..EARN IT! Stop trying to bring down coaches and players who have earned it.

Sometimes your son will practice harder and play harder than any kid on their team. If there is a better kid in their position then they are 2nd or 3rd string. Just because you think your son should start, doesn't mean it is true. These kids are getting older now. Size, speed and skill matters.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 01:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen 2023 is going to join HOCO and surprise everyone, with or without daddy coaches.



They really only lack one thing.


Talent.


The 2022 Evergreen team imported an entire team from 3d added some Cav's players and will be one of the top teams in the 2nd of four tiers in HOCO league. That would not be a surprise. The top players in N.VA are still with Madlax, Cav, 3d, and newly formed teams at VLC and Club Blue if Evergreen has a great program going but is not getting the talent yet in the 2023 age group it will be a surprise however I do not think they will beat any of the aforementioned teams if they face them in HOCO they will not even be in the Elite bracket at HOCO only Madlax. I would rank them 6th or 7th in N.VA slightly ahead of Madlax DMV.
1.Madlax Cap
2. Cavalier
3. 3d
4. VLC
5. Club Blue
6. Top Caliber
7. Evergreen (Battlelax and EKLC each have age based teams and do not compete in HOCO)
8. Madlax DMV
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 01:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Wow, so you are saying that less than 1% of the Dad's who coach their kid ends up being a stud? Great point you made. And guess what, the guys you listed are outstanding coaches so it would make sense for their son to play for them at a great college if they are good enough.

Do you plan on coaching your son in college? How about high school? What's gonna happen when little Johnnie tries out in high school and doesn't start right away? Are you going to force your way onto the coaching staff to make sure your son starts? Call the coach and complain? It happens every year, we see kids try out and feel entitled because Dad has given them everything on the lacrosse field. Do yourself a favor and let your kid succeed and fail on their own without your help.


He said nothing of the sort. Get a fuc*ing grip dude. You sound angry. get wronged by a dad coach?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 02:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everone likes to talk about "Daddy Ball" on this forum. From what I have seen on the fields, the best players are typically the coaches kids. It doesn't look like anything is handed to them. They are simply good players. It's not like their dad is on the field scoring goals, saving goals or defending the goal. Talent is talent regardless if their dad is a coach. Do you think if a dad isn't coaching a team with his kid on it that your son will somehow get better? Your kid has the same chances to perform on a field as a coaches son does. If anything, it is more pressure to be a coaches kid. You probably never thought of it that way. You are to worried about your little Jonnie trying to get more playing time. Here is a tip..EARN IT! Stop trying to bring down coaches and players who have earned it.

Sometimes your son will practice harder and play harder than any kid on their team. If there is a better kid in their position then they are 2nd or 3rd string. Just because you think your son should start, doesn't mean it is true. These kids are getting older now. Size, speed and skill matters.



This.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 04:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen 2023 is going to join HOCO and surprise everyone, with or without daddy coaches.



They really only lack one thing.


Talent.


The 2022 Evergreen team imported an entire team from 3d added some Cav's players and will be one of the top teams in the 2nd of four tiers in HOCO league. That would not be a surprise. The top players in N.VA are still with Madlax, Cav, 3d, and newly formed teams at VLC and Club Blue if Evergreen has a great program going but is not getting the talent yet in the 2023 age group it will be a surprise however I do not think they will beat any of the aforementioned teams if they face them in HOCO they will not even be in the Elite bracket at HOCO only Madlax. I would rank them 6th or 7th in N.VA slightly ahead of Madlax DMV.
1.Madlax Cap
2. Cavalier
3. 3d
4. VLC
5. Club Blue
6. Top Caliber
7. Evergreen (Battlelax and EKLC each have age based teams and do not compete in HOCO)
8. Madlax DMV


Will HOCO have 3 or 4 divisions for 2023 in Spring 2018? Cavs should probably move up from A. 3d lost a lot of kids to other clubs, so I would put them lower than #3. Asked around and it sounds like Evergreen 2023 would have a hard time beating B Rec teams in NVYLL. Would be a surprise if Evergreen 2023 does not get blown out in every HOCO game. Club Blue (must be referring to NOVA Club Blue, not the team that won HOCO and beat Crabs last year) is unknown, but have not heard of any of the stronger squads losing players to them. Did hear VLC picked up players from stronger squads (Capital, 3d, etc.). Don't hear much about Top Caliber, at least at this age group. Madlax DMV is usually a mess but I would still bet them over Evergreen. Would love to see a fall "Play Day" with MadCap, Cavs, VLC and one of the Md teams (Next Level, etc.).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 07:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen 2023 is going to join HOCO and surprise everyone, with or without daddy coaches.



They really only lack one thing.


Talent.


The 2022 Evergreen team imported an entire team from 3d added some Cav's players and will be one of the top teams in the 2nd of four tiers in HOCO league. That would not be a surprise. The top players in N.VA are still with Madlax, Cav, 3d, and newly formed teams at VLC and Club Blue if Evergreen has a great program going but is not getting the talent yet in the 2023 age group it will be a surprise however I do not think they will beat any of the aforementioned teams if they face them in HOCO they will not even be in the Elite bracket at HOCO only Madlax. I would rank them 6th or 7th in N.VA slightly ahead of Madlax DMV.
1.Madlax Cap
2. Cavalier
3. 3d
4. VLC
5. Club Blue
6. Top Caliber
7. Evergreen (Battlelax and EKLC each have age based teams and do not compete in HOCO)
8. Madlax DMV


Will HOCO have 3 or 4 divisions for 2023 in Spring 2018? Cavs should probably move up from A. 3d lost a lot of kids to other clubs, so I would put them lower than #3. Asked around and it sounds like Evergreen 2023 would have a hard time beating B Rec teams in NVYLL. Would be a surprise if Evergreen 2023 does not get blown out in every HOCO game. Club Blue (must be referring to NOVA Club Blue, not the team that won HOCO and beat Crabs last year) is unknown, but have not heard of any of the stronger squads losing players to them. Did hear VLC picked up players from stronger squads (Capital, 3d, etc.). Don't hear much about Top Caliber, at least at this age group. Madlax DMV is usually a mess but I would still bet them over Evergreen. Would love to see a fall "Play Day" with MadCap, Cavs, VLC and one of the Md teams (Next Level, etc.).



If your kids can't make an Elite team you are wasting your time and money playing club lacrosse.... Go back to Rec where it is fun, safe, and less competitive...... Every kids should not be playing club.....Clubs are stealing your money! This is ridiculous and carrying out the mentality that everyone's kids should have an opportunity to play club and criticize Elite clubs and their coaches.... Good Lord..... Your KID is not good enough to play ELITE then don't play CLUB!!! You are ruining the purpose of club lacrosse!!!!!!Fin cry babies on this forum
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 07:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


If your kids can't make an Elite team you are wasting your time and money playing club lacrosse.... Go back to Rec where it is fun, safe, and less competitive...... Every kids should not be playing club.....Clubs are stealing your money! This is ridiculous and carrying out the mentality that everyone's kids should have an opportunity to play club and criticize Elite clubs and their coaches.... Good Lord..... Your KID is not good enough to play ELITE then don't play CLUB!!! You are ruining the purpose of club lacrosse!!!!!!Fin cry babies on this forum


Easy killer. Lose your hat?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 07:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen 2023 is going to join HOCO and surprise everyone, with or without daddy coaches.



They really only lack one thing.


Talent.


The 2022 Evergreen team imported an entire team from 3d added some Cav's players and will be one of the top teams in the 2nd of four tiers in HOCO league. That would not be a surprise. The top players in N.VA are still with Madlax, Cav, 3d, and newly formed teams at VLC and Club Blue if Evergreen has a great program going but is not getting the talent yet in the 2023 age group it will be a surprise however I do not think they will beat any of the aforementioned teams if they face them in HOCO they will not even be in the Elite bracket at HOCO only Madlax. I would rank them 6th or 7th in N.VA slightly ahead of Madlax DMV.
1.Madlax Cap
2. Cavalier
3. 3d
4. VLC
5. Club Blue
6. Top Caliber
7. Evergreen (Battlelax and EKLC each have age based teams and do not compete in HOCO)
8. Madlax DMV


Will HOCO have 3 or 4 divisions for 2023 in Spring 2018? Cavs should probably move up from A. 3d lost a lot of kids to other clubs, so I would put them lower than #3. Asked around and it sounds like Evergreen 2023 would have a hard time beating B Rec teams in NVYLL. Would be a surprise if Evergreen 2023 does not get blown out in every HOCO game. Club Blue (must be referring to NOVA Club Blue, not the team that won HOCO and beat Crabs last year) is unknown, but have not heard of any of the stronger squads losing players to them. Did hear VLC picked up players from stronger squads (Capital, 3d, etc.). Don't hear much about Top Caliber, at least at this age group. Madlax DMV is usually a mess but I would still bet them over Evergreen. Would love to see a fall "Play Day" with MadCap, Cavs, VLC and one of the Md teams (Next Level, etc.).



If your kids can't make an Elite team you are wasting your time and money playing club lacrosse.... Go back to Rec where it is fun, safe, and less competitive...... Every kids should not be playing club.....Clubs are stealing your money! This is ridiculous and carrying out the mentality that everyone's kids should have an opportunity to play club and criticize Elite clubs and their coaches.... Good Lord..... Your KID is not good enough to play ELITE then don't play CLUB!!! You are ruining the purpose of club lacrosse!!!!!!Fin cry babies on this forum


This must be a MD dad. They are pissed when other Virginia teams have any discussion here so maybe a separate board is needed for NOVA teams. Many of the kids on these teams will play college lacrosse and many will play for top D1 teams. These are the top teams in N.VA where the sport still does not have as much participation but this still represents to the top teams. Do not worry about my money a 3K annual fee is less than the bar tab I have at Trump's golf club in Loudoun not even the cost of my weekend ski trips.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 07:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen 2023 is going to join HOCO and surprise everyone, with or without daddy coaches.



They really only lack one thing.


Talent.


The 2022 Evergreen team imported an entire team from 3d added some Cav's players and will be one of the top teams in the 2nd of four tiers in HOCO league. That would not be a surprise. The top players in N.VA are still with Madlax, Cav, 3d, and newly formed teams at VLC and Club Blue if Evergreen has a great program going but is not getting the talent yet in the 2023 age group it will be a surprise however I do not think they will beat any of the aforementioned teams if they face them in HOCO they will not even be in the Elite bracket at HOCO only Madlax. I would rank them 6th or 7th in N.VA slightly ahead of Madlax DMV.
1.Madlax Cap
2. Cavalier
3. 3d
4. VLC
5. Club Blue
6. Top Caliber
7. Evergreen (Battlelax and EKLC each have age based teams and do not compete in HOCO)
8. Madlax DMV


Will HOCO have 3 or 4 divisions for 2023 in Spring 2018? Cavs should probably move up from A. 3d lost a lot of kids to other clubs, so I would put them lower than #3. Asked around and it sounds like Evergreen 2023 would have a hard time beating B Rec teams in NVYLL. Would be a surprise if Evergreen 2023 does not get blown out in every HOCO game. Club Blue (must be referring to NOVA Club Blue, not the team that won HOCO and beat Crabs last year) is unknown, but have not heard of any of the stronger squads losing players to them. Did hear VLC picked up players from stronger squads (Capital, 3d, etc.). Don't hear much about Top Caliber, at least at this age group. Madlax DMV is usually a mess but I would still bet them over Evergreen. Would love to see a fall "Play Day" with MadCap, Cavs, VLC and one of the Md teams (Next Level, etc.).



If your kids can't make an Elite team you are wasting your time and money playing club lacrosse.... Go back to Rec where it is fun, safe, and less competitive...... Every kids should not be playing club.....Clubs are stealing your money! This is ridiculous and carrying out the mentality that everyone's kids should have an opportunity to play club and criticize Elite clubs and their coaches.... Good Lord..... Your KID is not good enough to play ELITE then don't play CLUB!!! You are ruining the purpose of club lacrosse!!!!!!Fin cry babies on this forum


This must be a MD dad. They are pissed when other Virginia teams have any discussion here so maybe a separate board is needed for NOVA teams. Many of the kids on these teams will play college lacrosse and many will play for top D1 teams. These are the top teams in N.VA where the sport still does not have as much participation but this still represents to the top teams. Do not worry about my money a 3K annual fee is less than the bar tab I have at Trump's golf club in Loudoun not even the cost of my weekend ski trips.


Well loddy freakin Dah.... Aren't you so fancy....Taking my kids to the Carnival tonight...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 08:23 PM
If your kids can't make an Elite team you are wasting your time and money playing club lacrosse.... Go back to Rec where it is fun, safe, and less competitive...... Every kids should not be playing club.....Clubs are stealing your money! This is ridiculous and carrying out the mentality that everyone's kids should have an opportunity to play club and criticize Elite clubs and their coaches.... Good Lord..... Your KID is not good enough to play ELITE then don't play CLUB!!! You are ruining the purpose of club lacrosse!!!!!!Fin cry babies on this forum[/quote]

There should be two divisions per group, don't care what you call them, AA/A, Elite/Almost Elite, Great/Good, A/B, 1/2. Anyone below those two divisions aren't ready for club, and can keep playing rec until they are ready. To say there should only be one level, though, is not realistic. Three and four divisions is ridiculous, agreed. Problem is, people are paying to be on these awful lowest level teams, and supply/demand dictates over right/wrong.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 10:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your kids can't make an Elite team you are wasting your time and money playing club lacrosse.... Go back to Rec where it is fun, safe, and less competitive...... Every kids should not be playing club.....Clubs are stealing your money! This is ridiculous and carrying out the mentality that everyone's kids should have an opportunity to play club and criticize Elite clubs and their coaches.... Good Lord..... Your KID is not good enough to play ELITE then don't play CLUB!!! You are ruining the purpose of club lacrosse!!!!!!Fin cry babies on this forum


If your kid made an Elite team and is on the 3rd or 4th middie line, or is the 5th or 6th attack or defenseman, or is the 2nd or 3rd LPM, or is a backup goalie, make sure you enjoy their 2-5 mins of PT and don't be late paying your dues. And remember an Elite team's roster is never closed, look forward to meeting new parents come summer maybe sooner.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/08/17 10:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your kids can't make an Elite team you are wasting your time and money playing club lacrosse.... Go back to Rec where it is fun, safe, and less competitive...... Every kids should not be playing club.....Clubs are stealing your money! This is ridiculous and carrying out the mentality that everyone's kids should have an opportunity to play club and criticize Elite clubs and their coaches.... Good Lord..... Your KID is not good enough to play ELITE then don't play CLUB!!! You are ruining the purpose of club lacrosse!!!!!!Fin cry babies on this forum


There should be two divisions per group, don't care what you call them, AA/A, Elite/Almost Elite, Great/Good, A/B, 1/2. Anyone below those two divisions aren't ready for club, and can keep playing rec until they are ready. To say there should only be one level, though, is not realistic. Three and four divisions is ridiculous, agreed. Problem is, people are paying to be on these awful lowest level teams, and supply/demand dictates over right/wrong.

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I do not think the money angle is the best argument. If a family has the means and is willing to play on a weak club team, they can waste their money however they want. As Rec does not play year round, I could see why a weak player would want to play year round on even a crappy club team. Club coaching should be better but that is not always true. But do agree that if we are having a discussion on whether the best 2023 teams in the area have gotten better/worse after fall tryouts, clubs Evergreen and EKLC should not even be part of the conversation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/11/17 04:16 PM
IMHO, the 2023 NOVA-only rankings heading into the fall pretty much track the one above except:

TOP TIER
1. Madlax Cap
2. Cavalier
3. VLC

MIDDLE TIER
4. 3d
5. (tie) Club Blue NOVA
5. (tie) Madlax DMV
5. (tie) Top Caliber

BOTTOM TIER
8. Evergreen
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/11/17 11:08 PM
Evergreen in bottom tier??? Rumor has it they will beat Madlax 2023 and be competitive with defending HOCO champ Club Blue and Crabs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 12:26 AM
yes this is a joke vlc a new 2023 team better than the defending champ club blue cmon
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 12:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes this is a joke vlc a new 2023 team better than the defending champ club blue cmon


I think the Evergreen comment was a joke. As far as VLC this is accurate both VLC and Club Blue Nova are brand new teams and hard to rank. Where did the players come from? However this is a NoVA only ranking I do not think anyone would rank these teams ahead of the MD Club Blue team. Relax
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 02:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes this is a joke vlc a new 2023 team better than the defending champ club blue cmon


I think the Evergreen comment was a joke. As far as VLC this is accurate both VLC and Club Blue Nova are brand new teams and hard to rank. Where did the players come from? However this is a NoVA only ranking I do not think anyone would rank these teams ahead of the MD Club Blue team. Relax

Evergreen must have been and is a joke. VLC 2023 intel [from VLC coaching staff friend who does not coach 2023] says this is the best 7th grade class that they have had in years and kids from Next Level, Madlax Capital, Cavs, 3d, 2023 kids who played up on VLC 2022 last year, and others. No intel on Club Blue NOVA. Anyone?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 01:44 PM
madlax capital should drop to AA. all top players have left for better coaching. If they play elite they will not win a game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 02:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
madlax capital should drop to AA. all top players have left for better coaching. If they play elite they will not win a game.

So all the Madlax kids left for who??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 03:36 PM
Crabs 2023 will continue to be the top team in the area. They picked up a heck of a lot of talent at tryouts. Watch out for the new players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 03:52 PM
a few went to Crabs last year, some went to VLC, 2022's left for Blackwolf but not sure if 2023 did too. Problem is it was the best kids that left. They are still solid, but losing best players doesn't bode well for Elite division in HOCO when you weren't in the top half before.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 04:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
a few went to Crabs last year, some went to VLC, 2022's left for Blackwolf but not sure if 2023 did too. Problem is it was the best kids that left. They are still solid, but losing best players doesn't bode well for Elite division in HOCO when you weren't in the top half before.

This sounds right. Capital can still crush all the other 2023 NOVA teams though Cavs and VLC might present a challenge. But Capital still beats 3d by 8-10 goals and Evergreen by 20 goals. Unless Capital picked up some new kids, especially at mid, who can play, my bet is that they will struggle in HOCO Elite. Nothing wrong with being the king of AA if you do not have the horses for Elite. No one has the best team in every age group. For example, Madlax 2024 is probably the best in the nation and 2023 is not. That's the way it goes sometimes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
madlax capital should drop to AA. all top players have left for better coaching. If they play elite they will not win a game.

So all the Madlax kids left for who??

Next Level seems to pick up 1 or 2 new Capital kids every season. At least one left for NL this fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 04:18 PM
Club Blue MD, Next Level, Crabs, Hawks, BLC, FCA & Looneys will all be competitive with one another in the spring. Lot of parity at this age amongst those 7. Madlax, 91 & Roughriders who were all in elite last year will not be able to compete and don't think there are any other teams that can step up to top level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 04:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
a few went to Crabs last year, some went to VLC, 2022's left for Blackwolf but not sure if 2023 did too. Problem is it was the best kids that left. They are still solid, but losing best players doesn't bode well for Elite division in HOCO when you weren't in the top half before.

This sounds right. Capital can still crush all the other 2023 NOVA teams though Cavs and VLC might present a challenge. But Capital still beats 3d by 8-10 goals and Evergreen by 20 goals. Unless Capital picked up some new kids, especially at mid, who can play, my bet is that they will struggle in HOCO Elite. Nothing wrong with being the king of AA if you do not have the horses for Elite. No one has the best team in every age group. For example, Madlax 2024 is probably the best in the nation and 2023 is not. That's the way it goes sometimes.

So after reading this if I was the dad of the best Mid on 3D,VLC or Cavs I would be at the Madlax 2023 tryouts this spring. Or I would be emailing them to see if I can get a late tryout. This is what this site is best for get some Intel and work it for your own good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 04:25 PM
What happened to A, B and C. I guess someone had their feelings hurt and needed to be "Elite" and "AA". LOL. Same Shizzle, different name.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 04:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
a few went to Crabs last year, some went to VLC, 2022's left for Blackwolf but not sure if 2023 did too. Problem is it was the best kids that left. They are still solid, but losing best players doesn't bode well for Elite division in HOCO when you weren't in the top half before.

This sounds right. Capital can still crush all the other 2023 NOVA teams though Cavs and VLC might present a challenge. But Capital still beats 3d by 8-10 goals and Evergreen by 20 goals. Unless Capital picked up some new kids, especially at mid, who can play, my bet is that they will struggle in HOCO Elite. Nothing wrong with being the king of AA if you do not have the horses for Elite. No one has the best team in every age group. For example, Madlax 2024 is probably the best in the nation and 2023 is not. That's the way it goes sometimes.

So after reading this if I was the dad of the best Mid on 3D,VLC or Cavs I would be at the Madlax 2023 tryouts this spring. Or I would be emailing them to see if I can get a late tryout. This is what this site is best for get some Intel and work it for your own good.

Nice try, Cabell
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 05:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
madlax capital should drop to AA. all top players have left for better coaching. If they play elite they will not win a game.

So all the Madlax kids left for who??

Next Level seems to pick up 1 or 2 new Capital kids every season. At least one left for NL this fall.

You are correct if you are not starting for Madlax Cap. you should go to NL very smart move.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 11:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
a few went to Crabs last year, some went to VLC, 2022's left for Blackwolf but not sure if 2023 did too. Problem is it was the best kids that left. They are still solid, but losing best players doesn't bode well for Elite division in HOCO when you weren't in the top half before.

This sounds right. Capital can still crush all the other 2023 NOVA teams though Cavs and VLC might present a challenge. But Capital still beats 3d by 8-10 goals and Evergreen by 20 goals. Unless Capital picked up some new kids, especially at mid, who can play, my bet is that they will struggle in HOCO Elite. Nothing wrong with being the king of AA if you do not have the horses for Elite. No one has the best team in every age group. For example, Madlax 2024 is probably the best in the nation and 2023 is not. That's the way it goes sometimes.

So after reading this if I was the dad of the best Mid on 3D,VLC or Cavs I would be at the Madlax 2023 tryouts this spring. Or I would be emailing them to see if I can get a late tryout. This is what this site is best for get some Intel and work it for your own good.

Nice try, Cabell



I think what hurts Madlax is the tryout process and the risk of being stuck on the DMV team after fees are paid. They do not confirm team assignment do players need to commit which is why I think they would opt for another team like NL. The top CAV players are too far from Bethesda for practice and very happy with Cav's. They will soon challenge madlax as top NOVA team. . I have to wonder if the players that left teams are really the top players? Usually players look to move if they are not getting enough playing time. I do not think they are flocking to madlax, evergreen is still not good at this age group. Sounds like VLC added but are they top players from Madlax Cap and NL? Did they really get AA players from 3d? did 3d have top players? If they added players from last years 2022 team that team was not great. Club Blue NOVA. S is an unknown. Fact is that there is too many NOVA teams and not enough talent for any NOVA team to compete at the Elite HOCO level. Still good teams just not ready to challenge teams like Hawks, Crabs, CB at 2023.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/12/17 11:24 PM
One notable problem with Madlax tryouts for new players is that they won't immediately tell you if your son will be on the Capital team or the state team. They ask you to commit to payment and then play throughout fall before you know which team he'll be on for tournaments. If any Madlax coaches are following, I know several strong 2023 players that would gone to Madlax but for the lack of team certainty. Having a sure roster slot on the best of the CB, NL, Cavs teams is better than potentially getting stuck on the Madlax state team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 12:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
One notable problem with Madlax tryouts for new players is that they won't immediately tell you if your son will be on the Capital team or the state team. They ask you to commit to payment and then play throughout fall before you know which team he'll be on for tournaments. If any Madlax coaches are following, I know several strong 2023 players that would gone to Madlax but for the lack of team certainty. Having a sure roster slot on the best of the CB, NL, Cavs teams is better than potentially getting stuck on the Madlax state team.

Amen brother. 100% true.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 04:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The top CAV players are too far from Bethesda for practice and very happy with Cav's. They will soon challenge madlax as top NOVA team.



Not even close. There is not a Cavalier team better than either BW or VLC. Look at Cavs college commit list - it is a total joke. Look at the tournaments they play in - total joke. They are far behind BW, Madlax and VLC and don't appear anywhere near close enough to close the gap.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 11:22 AM
madlax can't win at 2023 there best players have all left. BW doesn't have 2023. Does club blue VA have a team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 12:19 PM
How many 2023 players do BW Madlax and VLC have committed to college? Cav's has the same number of committed players as all of these teams combined. I would love to hear about how good Blackwolf's 2023 team will play in HOCO this spring. I bet the do not win a game in HOCO. Cav's lost two games intwo seasons of HOCO and should consider moving up. VLC 2023 has not played a game yet and is players who were not the top Cav players NL and 3d. They may be stronger in older teams but this is a 2023 page
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 12:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The top CAV players are too far from Bethesda for practice and very happy with Cav's. They will soon challenge madlax as top NOVA team.



Not even close. There is not a Cavalier team better than either BW or VLC. Look at Cavs college commit list - it is a total joke. Look at the tournaments they play in - total joke. They are far behind BW, Madlax and VLC and don't appear anywhere near close enough to close the gap.

Cavs 2023 is a big step ahead of the other Cavs teams. Not saying they will beat Madlax Cap, VLC, etc. but it goes without saying that Cavs should play harder tournaments. Williamsburg instead of Hogan on 11/12. C'mon. How many times do you have to beat BattleLax, EKLC and Evergreen before leaving the small pond???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 12:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many 2023 players do BW Madlax and VLC have committed to college? Cav's has the same number of committed players as all of these teams combined. I would love to hear about how good Blackwolf's 2023 team will play in HOCO this spring. I bet the do not win a game in HOCO. Cav's lost two games intwo seasons of HOCO and should consider moving up. VLC 2023 has not played a game yet and is players who were not the top Cav players NL and 3d. They may be stronger in older teams but this is a 2023 page



The track record of the Cavs HS program is a joke in terms of talent, college commits and quality of tournaments. That is why their best players leave. Nowhere near the big 3 of Madlax, VLC and BW. As for youth, they always play in a lower tier division. My friend's son is on VLC 2023 and they got kids from other areas, not really Cav or 3d.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 12:49 PM
Cavs aren't going to play in harder tournaments because they only care about winning, no matter what level.

I was at the fields last year when the Cavs 2021 team "won" the lowest brackets of HoCo and the way everyone was reacting you would think they were NC State when they won the NCAA Basketball Championship

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 01:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs aren't going to play in harder tournaments because they only care about winning, no matter what level.

I was at the fields last year when the Cavs 2021 team "won" the lowest brackets of HoCo and the way everyone was reacting you would think they were NC State when they won the NCAA Basketball Championship


Smells like chicken to me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs aren't going to play in harder tournaments because they only care about winning, no matter what level.

I was at the fields last year when the Cavs 2021 team "won" the lowest brackets of HoCo and the way everyone was reacting you would think they were NC State when they won the NCAA Basketball Championship


Smells like chicken to me.


Tastes like fish.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 01:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs aren't going to play in harder tournaments because they only care about winning, no matter what level.

I was at the fields last year when the Cavs 2021 team "won" the lowest brackets of HoCo and the way everyone was reacting you would think they were NC State when they won the NCAA Basketball Championship



Cav's is a great opportunity for kids new to travel Lacrosse and the stiffer competition you see over the summer compared to what they see in NVYLL rec during the season. Many of the "Studs" now on other high level club's all came through Cav's at some point or another. All roads lead to Rome....so at some point, as certain boys progress and aspire to get to that next level of competition...they have to leave.

No club is perfect and all of them serve a purpose, niche, demographic etc. Get in where you fit in and when it's time to go...you go.

That said, never forget where you came from and who helped you get to where you are today.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 02:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs aren't going to play in harder tournaments because they only care about winning, no matter what level.

I was at the fields last year when the Cavs 2021 team "won" the lowest brackets of HoCo and the way everyone was reacting you would think they were NC State when they won the NCAA Basketball Championship



Cav's is a great opportunity for kids new to travel Lacrosse and the stiffer competition you see over the summer compared to what they see in NVYLL rec during the season. Many of the "Studs" now on other high level club's all came through Cav's at some point or another. All roads lead to Rome....so at some point, as certain boys progress and aspire to get to that next level of competition...they have to leave.

No club is perfect and all of them serve a purpose, niche, demographic etc. Get in where you fit in and when it's time to go...you go.

That said, never forget where you came from and who helped you get to where you are today.


This is a great post. All clubs will and do over hype how great they are. But its clear who the big 3 are in the DMV play Cavs tell 7th or 8th grade move to the big 3 if you are a stud for Cavs. It has worked for the last 5 to 10 years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs aren't going to play in harder tournaments because they only care about winning, no matter what level.

I was at the fields last year when the Cavs 2021 team "won" the lowest brackets of HoCo and the way everyone was reacting you would think they were NC State when they won the NCAA Basketball Championship



Cav's is a great opportunity for kids new to travel Lacrosse and the stiffer competition you see over the summer compared to what they see in NVYLL rec during the season. Many of the "Studs" now on other high level club's all came through Cav's at some point or another. All roads lead to Rome....so at some point, as certain boys progress and aspire to get to that next level of competition...they have to leave.

No club is perfect and all of them serve a purpose, niche, demographic etc. Get in where you fit in and when it's time to go...you go.

That said, never forget where you came from and who helped you get to where you are today.


This is a great post. All clubs will and do over hype how great they are. But its clear who the big 3 are in the DMV play Cavs tell 7th or 8th grade move to the big 3 if you are a stud for Cavs. It has worked for the last 5 to 10 years.

this looks right and i believe cavs coaches would agree. cavs parents, not so much.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 02:49 PM
The last post makes sense however I will bet the 2023 group stays together this is CAV's top team. The kids are successful and the parents are happy with the team. Madlax is too far and time will tell if VLC is a better option. They will loose a few kids but the core of the team will stay together. Cav's and South River dominated the middle HOCO bracket the last two seasons and should both move up to test themselves. As far as the tournaments, the CAV's organization supports local VA based tournaments but also competes at other national tournaments and has fared well in the past. I do not think it matters to many parents who the Big 3 teams are as that will change over time. The sport continues to grow in Northern Virginia so will the hierarchy or teams as it varies at each age group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The last post makes sense however I will bet the 2023 group stays together this is CAV's top team. The kids are successful and the parents are happy with the team. Madlax is too far and time will tell if VLC is a better option. They will loose a few kids but the core of the team will stay together. Cav's and South River dominated the middle HOCO bracket the last two seasons and should both move up to test themselves. As far as the tournaments, the CAV's organization supports local VA based tournaments but also competes at other national tournaments and has fared well in the past. I do not think it matters to many parents who the Big 3 teams are as that will change over time. The sport continues to grow in Northern Virginia so will the hierarchy or teams as it varies at each age group.


Well if I had a dollar for every parent from my sons 7th grade team that thought we would all stay together and keep winning it all. I would have at least $18 dollars. He is now a 2018. If the kids you are talking about really do stay together for the next 5 years this will only hurt the best players from the bunch. Lacrosse is not football they have 3 to 5 coaches, and they do not have the time and money to see everyone everywhere. You need to be playing for the top 3 clubs and be where they are to get to a high D1 roster. It will be fun and you parents will become the best of friends but ask yourself was your drinking buddy worth holding your elite son back from playing to his full potential?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 04:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The last post makes sense however I will bet the 2023 group stays together this is CAV's top team. The kids are successful and the parents are happy with the team. Madlax is too far and time will tell if VLC is a better option. They will loose a few kids but the core of the team will stay together. Cav's and South River dominated the middle HOCO bracket the last two seasons and should both move up to test themselves. As far as the tournaments, the CAV's organization supports local VA based tournaments but also competes at other national tournaments and has fared well in the past. I do not think it matters to many parents who the Big 3 teams are as that will change over time. The sport continues to grow in Northern Virginia so will the hierarchy or teams as it varies at each age group.


I'm sure the Cavs experience is good for you, but if your son desires top competition and visibility, he is being held back. Cav and "South River" are light years away from competing at the Elite Level. They would get destroyed playing in a higher bracket.

And Cavs does not play in any elite tournaments. As for the "big 3 will change over time", that is incorrect.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 04:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The last post makes sense however I will bet the 2023 group stays together this is CAV's top team. The kids are successful and the parents are happy with the team. Madlax is too far and time will tell if VLC is a better option. They will loose a few kids but the core of the team will stay together. Cav's and South River dominated the middle HOCO bracket the last two seasons and should both move up to test themselves. As far as the tournaments, the CAV's organization supports local VA based tournaments but also competes at other national tournaments and has fared well in the past. I do not think it matters to many parents who the Big 3 teams are as that will change over time. The sport continues to grow in Northern Virginia so will the hierarchy or teams as it varies at each age group.


Well if I had a dollar for every parent from my sons 7th grade team that thought we would all stay together and keep winning it all. I would have at least $18 dollars. He is now a 2018. If the kids you are talking about really do stay together for the next 5 years this will only hurt the best players from the bunch. Lacrosse is not football they have 3 to 5 coaches, and they do not have the time and money to see everyone everywhere. You need to be playing for the top 3 clubs and be where they are to get to a high D1 roster. It will be fun and you parents will become the best of friends but ask yourself was your drinking buddy worth holding your elite son back from playing to his full potential?

if cavs moves up, they'll stop winning and then we'll see how happy and content all the players and parents are. If they play HOCO elite and inevitably become at best a .500 team, unlikely the team will stay together. but i can see why cavs might want to stay in b. club is a business and retention is great if u are winning regardless of whether you are pounding weakling clubs. for the couple kids who might play d1, switch over to madlax, crabs, vlc, dce or wherever. the rest might be happier sticking with cavs and being the big fish in small pond.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 05:57 PM
Wow, the other club owners on this board must be getting scared of teams like Cav's and Evergreen. Not on the field mind you but where in counts in the $$. Parents should not pay attention to the recruiting BS some clubs sell the parents, you can make a D1 team if a player is good enough. The landscape has changed and club owners are now feeling scared. If your son is a top player an you want to stick with a good team that works for you I suggest you do not have to move. Cav's may not boast as many D1 commits as other clubs as they do not have the quantity of players at that level. However, they did have players commit to schools like Richmond and Army. With later recruiting now at the Junior year, schools have prospect days which are the most important aspect of recruiting as the coaches really get to evaluate a player up close and personal. Anyone can attend showcases, try out for all star teams, and both Cav and Evergreen have connections with top schools and can get the word out. The player not the club will lead to exposure. The best thing a player can do is maintain a high GPA and email coaches of the schools they are interested in. The idea that simply playing on a club means that you will be "exposed" to top college coaches is yesterday's news. If you like your team you can keep your team and you can still get your 20% tuition discount AKA scholarship. If you are playing club at 2023 simply for a D1 full ride you are doing it wrong. Stay with your friends.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 06:38 PM
Please don't lump Cavs and Evergreen into the same bucket.

While the Cavs may be content to continue as a fall back club for rec league players, Evergreen has made the leap to the upper tier of DMV travel lacrosse.

Top Caliber and Cavs can complete for the travel rung above BattleLax
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 06:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please don't lump Cavs and Evergreen into the same bucket.

While the Cavs may be content to continue as a fall back club for rec league players, Evergreen has made the leap to the upper tier of DMV travel lacrosse.

Top Caliber and Cavs can complete for the travel rung above BattleLax



I've seen Evergreen. That club is worse than rec.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 07:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, the other club owners on this board must be getting scared of teams like Cav's and Evergreen. Not on the field mind you but where in counts in the $$. Parents should not pay attention to the recruiting BS some clubs sell the parents, you can make a D1 team if a player is good enough. The landscape has changed and club owners are now feeling scared. If your son is a top player an you want to stick with a good team that works for you I suggest you do not have to move. Cav's may not boast as many D1 commits as other clubs as they do not have the quantity of players at that level. However, they did have players commit to schools like Richmond and Army. With later recruiting now at the Junior year, schools have prospect days which are the most important aspect of recruiting as the coaches really get to evaluate a player up close and personal. Anyone can attend showcases, try out for all star teams, and both Cav and Evergreen have connections with top schools and can get the word out. The player not the club will lead to exposure. The best thing a player can do is maintain a high GPA and email coaches of the schools they are interested in. The idea that simply playing on a club means that you will be "exposed" to top college coaches is yesterday's news. If you like your team you can keep your team and you can still get your 20% tuition discount AKA scholarship. If you are playing club at 2023 simply for a D1 full ride you are doing it wrong. Stay with your friends.


I agree with most of what you said, but c'mon....if you're a good player you will be holding yourself back remaining with the majority of talent that comprises the Cav's rosters. Even from a coaching perspective, other clubs are far ahead of Cav's. Cav's serves a purpose, a niche, a demographic and is a good club for what it is. It is not a good long term fit for players looking to stand out at the Elite level of this sport.

Cav's is organized, great family's, convenient, nice matching swag etc, but it's not, nor will it ever be a club that can compete with the top DMV clubs, no less roll into Baltimore and compete with the Crab's, FCA etc. The owners are from Baltimore originally and know this better than anyone else. That is why the club remains at Hershey Park, Virginia Beach and Hoco C league. It's the parent and the athlete that needs to be informed, look outside of Loudoun and navigate the landscape to their advantage.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 07:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, the other club owners on this board must be getting scared of teams like Cav's and Evergreen. Not on the field mind you but where in counts in the $$. Parents should not pay attention to the recruiting BS some clubs sell the parents, you can make a D1 team if a player is good enough. The landscape has changed and club owners are now feeling scared. If your son is a top player an you want to stick with a good team that works for you I suggest you do not have to move. Cav's may not boast as many D1 commits as other clubs as they do not have the quantity of players at that level. However, they did have players commit to schools like Richmond and Army. With later recruiting now at the Junior year, schools have prospect days which are the most important aspect of recruiting as the coaches really get to evaluate a player up close and personal. Anyone can attend showcases, try out for all star teams, and both Cav and Evergreen have connections with top schools and can get the word out. The player not the club will lead to exposure. The best thing a player can do is maintain a high GPA and email coaches of the schools they are interested in. The idea that simply playing on a club means that you will be "exposed" to top college coaches is yesterday's news. If you like your team you can keep your team and you can still get your 20% tuition discount AKA scholarship. If you are playing club at 2023 simply for a D1 full ride you are doing it wrong. Stay with your friends.


don't know if madlax and co. are sweating cavs and evergreen. doubt it. but cavs better be and is probably already afraid of evergreen. the migration from cavs to evergreen has already begun, see evergreen 2022 and HS teams. those were not scrub players that left. generally agree with a lot of the recruiting comments that this guy is saying. and let's not forget these are 7th graders, have fun. some of the studs now will not develop athletically and will never be recruited or need to worry about whether to play for madlax, crabs, vlc, etc. there are also kids playing rec who are a growth spurt away from being elite. with this being a message board, it is fine to have a conversation on who's the best in HOCO and in such a conversation, the words cav and evergreen should not come up. crabs, club blue md and others would pound both clubs on their worst day, that's not disputable. but again, these are 7th graders, have fun and play with whoever you want. if you are elite, things will work out and there is not only one path to success.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 07:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please don't lump Cavs and Evergreen into the same bucket.

While the Cavs may be content to continue as a fall back club for rec league players, Evergreen has made the leap to the upper tier of DMV travel lacrosse.

Top Caliber and Cavs can complete for the travel rung above BattleLax

This is plain stupid. I know it is trolling but geeeez.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/13/17 07:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, the other club owners on this board must be getting scared of teams like Cav's and Evergreen. Not on the field mind you but where in counts in the $$. Parents should not pay attention to the recruiting BS some clubs sell the parents, you can make a D1 team if a player is good enough. The landscape has changed and club owners are now feeling scared. If your son is a top player an you want to stick with a good team that works for you I suggest you do not have to move. Cav's may not boast as many D1 commits as other clubs as they do not have the quantity of players at that level. However, they did have players commit to schools like Richmond and Army. With later recruiting now at the Junior year, schools have prospect days which are the most important aspect of recruiting as the coaches really get to evaluate a player up close and personal. Anyone can attend showcases, try out for all star teams, and both Cav and Evergreen have connections with top schools and can get the word out. The player not the club will lead to exposure. The best thing a player can do is maintain a high GPA and email coaches of the schools they are interested in. The idea that simply playing on a club means that you will be "exposed" to top college coaches is yesterday's news. If you like your team you can keep your team and you can still get your 20% tuition discount AKA scholarship. If you are playing club at 2023 simply for a D1 full ride you are doing it wrong. Stay with your friends.


I agree with most of what you said, but c'mon....if you're a good player you will be holding yourself back remaining with the majority of talent that comprises the Cav's rosters. Even from a coaching perspective, other clubs are far ahead of Cav's. Cav's serves a purpose, a niche, a demographic and is a good club for what it is. It is not a good long term fit for players looking to stand out at the Elite level of this sport.

Cav's is organized, great family's, convenient, nice matching swag etc, but it's not, nor will it ever be a club that can compete with the top DMV clubs, no less roll into Baltimore and compete with the Crab's, FCA etc. The owners are from Baltimore originally and know this better than anyone else. That is why the club remains at Hershey Park, Virginia Beach and Hoco C league. It's the parent and the athlete that needs to be informed, look outside of Loudoun and navigate the landscape to their advantage.

I respect Cavs but they are not an elite program like Crabs, Madlax, FCA, Hawks, etc. The have a ton of dads coaching but you never hear "Daddy Ball" which I view as a positive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/14/17 02:42 AM
REVISED (version 2) 2023 NOVA-only rankings heading into the fall:

TOP TIER
1. Madlax Cap
2. Cavalier
3. VLC

MIDDLE TIER
4. 3d
5. (tie) Club Blue NOVA [no not the CB that won HOCO last yr]
5. (tie) Madlax DMV
7. Top Caliber [no info whatsover so who knows]

BOTTOM TIER
8. NVYLL Dulles South 12U Lower B Team B2
9. Evergreen
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/14/17 03:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
REVISED (version 2) 2023 NOVA-only rankings heading into the fall:

TOP TIER
1. Madlax Cap
2. Cavalier
3. VLC

MIDDLE TIER
4. 3d
5. (tie) Club Blue NOVA [no not the CB that won HOCO last yr]
5. (tie) Madlax DMV
7. Top Caliber [no info whatsover so who knows]

BOTTOM TIER
8. NVYLL Dulles South 12U Lower B Team B2
9. Evergreen

Suspect #2 and #3 will be flipped before long but generally looks right.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/14/17 11:21 AM
Madlax lost their two top guys (by far) last year, and lost several more this fall. Wouldn't be surprised to see them fall from #1. They are already behind NL 2023 and might be behind another VA club on this list already.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/14/17 12:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
REVISED (version 2) 2023 NOVA-only rankings heading into the fall:

TOP TIER
1. Madlax Cap
2. Cavalier
3. VLC

MIDDLE TIER
4. 3d
5. (tie) Club Blue NOVA [no not the CB that won HOCO last yr]
5. (tie) Madlax DMV
7. Top Caliber [no info whatsover so who knows]

BOTTOM TIER
8. NVYLL Dulles South 12U Lower B Team B2
9. Evergreen

Suspect #2 and #3 will be flipped before long but generally looks right.


What a collection of terrible teams Yikes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/14/17 01:03 PM
Madlax cap is terrible everyone has left. Cav's should play in AA with madlax. If madlax cap plays elite they will go 0-6.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/14/17 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax cap is terrible everyone has left. Cav's should play in AA with madlax. If madlax cap plays elite they will go 0-6.

OK ex-Madlax dad, keep telling yourself that if it will help soothe your decision to leave Madlax. i don't give much weight to the comments of disgruntled former parents. 2023 is cavs' strongest team and madlax capital's weakest team, so it could be close but madlax would still win. in other age groups, madlax cap v cavs would not even be a competitive game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/14/17 07:00 PM
Anyone know who's playing in the FCA Playday at Calvert hall on 29 of October?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/14/17 08:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know who's playing in the FCA Playday at Calvert hall on 29 of October?

I hope to see Evergreen there
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/14/17 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know who's playing in the FCA Playday at Calvert hall on 29 of October?

I hope to see Evergreen there


They will be there....collecting and washing jock straps.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/14/17 10:04 PM
Switching back to the subject of preparing 7th graders for high school and college lax - for parents who've gone through the process - how strong is the correlation between how best players "track" over the next few years? In other words, do you tend in general to see big changes in which players are the best for their age or do the best middle school athletes typically remain the best high school and college athletes? Disregard the middle school holdbacks and kids who simply reached physical maturity way ahead of the others.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/14/17 10:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know who's playing in the FCA Playday at Calvert hall on 29 of October?

Maybe a dumb question but how is a playday different than a tournament? Or is it just there is no championship aspect to a playday? Or no difference? Never used that term when I was playing youth.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/14/17 10:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know who's playing in the FCA Playday at Calvert hall on 29 of October?

I hope to see Evergreen there

Everyone who wants an easy W and to have their third string players have the chance to score hat tricks wants to see Evergreen there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/15/17 09:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know who's playing in the FCA Playday at Calvert hall on 29 of October?

I hope to see Evergreen there

Everyone who wants an easy W and to have their third string players have the chance to score hat tricks wants to see Evergreen there.


Someone is scared of playing Evergreen!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/18/17 01:30 AM
Evergreen 2022 is playing Madlax Capital 2022 on 10/1 at noon at Evergreen. How about adding Madlax Capital 2023 vs. Evergreen 2023 to the undercard?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/18/17 12:58 PM
madlax 2023 still has a team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/18/17 01:29 PM
How about we have a "play day" with Madlax, Cav's, Evergreen, VLC, Club Blue NOVA, 3d, Top Caliber, throw in Battle Lax and we can all decide who the top NOVA team is. This could be held at Evergreen this would be great. It would be just like NVYLL used to be 8 years ago only instead of $250 to play it is now $2500 to play. Yeah N.VA youth lacrosse! great job growing the sport!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/18/17 02:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about we have a "play day" with Madlax, Cav's, Evergreen, VLC, Club Blue NOVA, 3d, Top Caliber, throw in Battle Lax and we can all decide who the top NOVA team is. This could be held at Evergreen this would be great. It would be just like NVYLL used to be 8 years ago only instead of $250 to play it is now $2500 to play. Yeah N.VA youth lacrosse! great job growing the sport!


I can not tell if this guy is mad or happy?

I think this would be a great youth tournament. But if we did this the parents and kids would see who really is the best to worst at each age level and the kids would switch teams to fit themselves better. Also the clubs could not brag about a championship at the beach on there website to trick parents into how good they are.

And if you want to throw a monkey wrench into it get a Richmond team to come up and play in it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/18/17 02:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about we have a "play day" with Madlax, Cav's, Evergreen, VLC, Club Blue NOVA, 3d, Top Caliber, throw in Battle Lax and we can all decide who the top NOVA team is. This could be held at Evergreen this would be great. It would be just like NVYLL used to be 8 years ago only instead of $250 to play it is now $2500 to play. Yeah N.VA youth lacrosse! great job growing the sport!


I can not tell if this guy is mad or happy?

I think this would be a great youth tournament. But if we did this the parents and kids would see who really is the best to worst at each age level and the kids would switch teams to fit themselves better. Also the clubs could not brag about a championship at the beach on there website to trick parents into how good they are.

And if you want to throw a monkey wrench into it get a Richmond team to come up and play in it.

I would take Evergreen as the favorite in this one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/18/17 03:56 PM
get it done... madlax won't play
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/18/17 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
get it done... madlax won't play

Cavs will play if Madlax, VLC and 3D pull out. That way, they can be assured of playing significantly weaker programs and walk away with the championship.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/18/17 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
get it done... madlax won't play

Cavs will play if Madlax, VLC and 3D pull out. That way, they can be assured of playing significantly weaker programs and walk away with the championship.



http://www.tribal-lacrosse.com/battle-of-leesburg
http://www.capitallacrosse.com/colonialchallenge.html

Madlax, 3d, VLC, and Club Blue will not be at either of these my guess is that Cav's wins one and Evergreen wins one parents are happy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/18/17 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about we have a "play day" with Madlax, Cav's, Evergreen, VLC, Club Blue NOVA, 3d, Top Caliber, throw in Battle Lax and we can all decide who the top NOVA team is. This could be held at Evergreen this would be great. It would be just like NVYLL used to be 8 years ago only instead of $250 to play it is now $2500 to play. Yeah N.VA youth lacrosse! great job growing the sport!



Waste of time for Madlax or VLC to play any of those teams. One of VLC's HS teams had to play Cavalier in the summer and won by 12 goals. Agree that Cav, Evergreen, Battlelax and TC should have a tournament just for themselves. They could call it the Mediocre Cup.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/18/17 08:38 PM
This post is 2023 not HS teams differ at each age. Cav's 2023 is close to Madlax maybe better, and way ahead of VLC who is new and made up of kids that left CAV, Madlax, 3d, and NL because they did not start for those teams. Evergreen is below NVYLL B teams at 2023
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/18/17 08:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
get it done... madlax won't play

Cavs will play if Madlax, VLC and 3D pull out. That way, they can be assured of playing significantly weaker programs and walk away with the championship.




Madlax, 3d, VLC, and Club Blue will not be at either of these my guess is that Cav's wins one and Evergreen wins one parents are happy

Cavs may win Williamsburg (again). Their October tournament is against FCA "B" and similar teams. From what I can tell, Evergreen has never won a tournament in any age group, not sure why they would win one here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/18/17 09:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This post is 2023 not HS teams differ at each age. Cav's 2023 is close to Madlax maybe better, and way ahead of VLC who is new and made up of kids that left CAV, Madlax, 3d, and NL because they did not start for those teams. Evergreen is below NVYLL B teams at 2023

Too bad we'll never know how good Cavs is because they refuse to play AA teams. October 22 is a good example. Cavs is registered for Brine Indian Summer in Jarrettsvile where they will play teams like FCA "B", EKLC, and Wolfpack. Yet, down the road on the same day at Blandair, the Md Lacrosse Tournament is being held with teams like Crabs, FCA "A", Annapolis Hawks, VLC, Next Level and more. Stop playing Nebraska's non-conference football schedule from the 70s and step up to the plate, Cavs. It would be fun to see and who knows, you might come up on top.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/19/17 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This post is 2023 not HS teams differ at each age. Cav's 2023 is close to Madlax maybe better, and way ahead of VLC who is new and made up of kids that left CAV, Madlax, 3d, and NL because they did not start for those teams. Evergreen is below NVYLL B teams at 2023



No. VLC did not pick up guys who were non-starters for other programs. My son plays for a different club than what you listed here, but I can't wait for Cavs 23 to get destroyed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/19/17 07:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This post is 2023 not HS teams differ at each age. Cav's 2023 is close to Madlax maybe better, and way ahead of VLC who is new and made up of kids that left CAV, Madlax, 3d, and NL because they did not start for those teams. Evergreen is below NVYLL B teams at 2023



No. VLC did not pick up guys who were non-starters for other programs. My son plays for a different club than what you listed here, but I can't wait for Cavs 23 to get destroyed.

Evergreen 2023 is the bomb and would beat Cavs, VLC and Madlax. Best of NOVA, baby!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/20/17 07:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This post is 2023 not HS teams differ at each age. Cav's 2023 is close to Madlax maybe better, and way ahead of VLC who is new and made up of kids that left CAV, Madlax, 3d, and NL because they did not start for those teams. Evergreen is below NVYLL B teams at 2023



No. VLC did not pick up guys who were non-starters for other programs. My son plays for a different club than what you listed here, but I can't wait for Cavs 23 to get destroyed.

Evergreen 2023 is the bomb and would beat Cavs, VLC and Madlax. Best of NOVA, baby!

Who is Evergreen 2023 scrimmaging and where/when?

How about adding them to the undercard of the 2022 tilt between Madlax and Evergreen on October 1! Are advanced tickets available for that one? I believe stadium seating is limited.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/20/17 08:07 PM
Evergreen has nice grantstands. Too bad it's in the middle of nowhere and sitting there means you have to watch one of their crappy teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/21/17 01:10 PM
Any 2023 teams planning to do WSYL? API again?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/21/17 02:52 PM
Breakers
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/21/17 09:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Breakers



In other words, only terrible clubs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/21/17 11:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Breakers



In other words, only terrible clubs.


Breakers had teams just a few years ago that could compete with Crabs. How they have fallen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/22/17 12:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Breakers



In other words, only terrible clubs.


Breakers had teams just a few years ago that could compete with Crabs. How they have fallen.


91md pretty much killed that club from 2020 on down.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/22/17 12:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Breakers



In other words, only terrible clubs.


Breakers had teams just a few years ago that could compete with Crabs. How they have fallen.


They left and went to 88+3
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/22/17 01:26 AM
The owner of Breakers hires Million and within two years MM steals most of Breakers to form team 89 +2. That will go down as a bad hire! LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/22/17 02:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The owner of Breakers hires Million and within two years MM steals most of Breakers to form team 89 +2. That will go down as a bad hire! LOL

All the good players went to Evergreen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/22/17 11:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any 2023 teams planning to do WSYL? API again?

I am sure Evergreen will be one of the favorites to knock off the LI teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/22/17 03:13 PM
Is it true Evergreen 2023 is going to play in the 2019 divisions this fall and summer?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/29/17 01:36 AM
Yes and they are going to win it all!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes and they are going to win it all!

After the login rule changed back again the real Evergreen faithful return. Big weekend for the club
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/29/17 03:41 PM
Originally Posted by MADERCAVGREENLAX
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes and they are going to win it all!

After the login rule changed back again the real Evergreen faithful return. Big weekend for the club

Hey BOTC.... Can you kick these Evergreen (Lacrosse) off this forum please.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/30/17 05:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The owner of Breakers hires Million and within two years MM steals most of Breakers to form team 89 +2. That will go down as a bad hire! LOL


Does MM move onto the next club looking to make a name for themselves, or show some commitment and stay true to 91.md
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/30/17 01:41 PM
why do we play fall lacrosse? this is pretty silly- practices once a week for 6 weeks that are doing very little for the kids and a BS tournament or 2. it seriously seems that after one club does it, everyone does it. it is useless and a waste.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
why do we play fall lacrosse? this is pretty silly- practices once a week for 6 weeks that are doing very little for the kids and a BS tournament or 2. it seriously seems that after one club does it, everyone does it. it is useless and a waste.


You are right about “if one team does it then the rest follow.” But I still think it’s better than doing nothing. Most kids 8th grade and below don’t train by themselves so those extra practices and then the tournaments are only helping the kids and it’s certainly not making them worse. Lacrosse is a year round sport now for those looking to play at the collegiate level. You may not see it now but watch players In high school who play year round and you’ll see a difference with their skill level and Lacrosse iq.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/30/17 02:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The owner of Breakers hires Million and within two years MM steals most of Breakers to form team 89 +2. That will go down as a bad hire! LOL


Does MM move onto the next club looking to make a name for themselves, or show some commitment and stay true to 91.md

Does MM coach 91MD 2023?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/30/17 05:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The owner of Breakers hires Million and within two years MM steals most of Breakers to form team 89 +2. That will go down as a bad hire! LOL


Does MM move onto the next club looking to make a name for themselves, or show some commitment and stay true to 91.md

Does MM coach 91MD 2023?


He runs the club and is involved with all tryouts
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 09/30/17 10:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The owner of Breakers hires Million and within two years MM steals most of Breakers to form team 89 +2. That will go down as a bad hire! LOL


Does MM move onto the next club looking to make a name for themselves, or show some commitment and stay true to 91.md

Does MM coach 91MD 2023?


He runs the club and is involved with all tryouts


According to many he coaches his sons team and only cares about them ,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/01/17 11:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The owner of Breakers hires Million and within two years MM steals most of Breakers to form team 89 +2. That will go down as a bad hire! LOL


Does MM move onto the next club looking to make a name for themselves, or show some commitment and stay true to 91.md

Does MM coach 91MD 2023?


He runs the club and is involved with all tryouts


According to many he coaches his sons team and only cares about them ,

Is MM's son 2023?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/01/17 02:17 PM
This is dumb. He's a program director so cares about all teams. He obviously spends more time with the teams he coaches. A number of the teams he does not coach are very good (esp 2025). Assume same is true for program directors at MLax, Crabs etc about the teams they don't coach with or without sons on the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/01/17 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
why do we play fall lacrosse? this is pretty silly- practices once a week for 6 weeks that are doing very little for the kids and a BS tournament or 2. it seriously seems that after one club does it, everyone does it. it is useless and a waste.


So don’t do it. My sons teams practices twice a week now. Will have about 15 practices a few scrimmages and 2 tournaments before the winter when they will go to once a week until late March about 14 practices and 2 tournaments when they go back outside. Teams and kids that do that will absolutely be the superior teams come spring and summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/01/17 09:12 PM
MM should leave T91MD and coach Evergreen. Pinnacles of success merging as one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/01/17 11:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
why do we play fall lacrosse? this is pretty silly- practices once a week for 6 weeks that are doing very little for the kids and a BS tournament or 2. it seriously seems that after one club does it, everyone does it. it is useless and a waste.


So don’t do it. My sons teams practices twice a week now. Will have about 15 practices a few scrimmages and 2 tournaments before the winter when they will go to once a week until late March about 14 practices and 2 tournaments when they go back outside. Teams and kids that do that will absolutely be the superior teams come spring and summer.



They should be playing box not field in the fall and winter. The colleges are all moving that direction.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/02/17 01:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is dumb. He's a program director so cares about all teams. He obviously spends more time with the teams he coaches. A number of the teams he does not coach are very good (esp 2025). Assume same is true for program directors at MLax, Crabs etc about the teams they don't coach with or without sons on the team.



Have you seen some of the things written about him?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/02/17 03:21 PM
2023
Rock Lacrosse (MD)
True Lacrosse (IL)
VLC Blue Crabs (VA)
Madlax-Capital 2023 (Greater DC)
3d Mid-Atlantic (VA)
Bethesda LC Blue (MD)
Team 91 Maryland (MD)
Club Blue-MD (MD)
Club Blue-VA (VA)
This looks like a good pool for the MadLax event. At this point I would think Club Blue is the favorite.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/02/17 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The owner of Breakers hires Million and within two years MM steals most of Breakers to form team 89 +2. That will go down as a bad hire! LOL


Does MM move onto the next club looking to make a name for themselves, or show some commitment and stay true to 91.md

Does MM coach 91MD 2023?


He runs the club and is involved with all tryouts


According to many he coaches his sons team and only cares about them ,


he was at and the 2023 evals, he is interested in the entire club or at least his pocket is.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/02/17 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023
Rock Lacrosse (MD)
True Lacrosse (IL)
VLC Blue Crabs (VA)
Madlax-Capital 2023 (Greater DC)
3d Mid-Atlantic (VA)
Bethesda LC Blue (MD)
Team 91 Maryland (MD)
Club Blue-MD (MD)
Club Blue-VA (VA)
This looks like a good pool for the MadLax event. At this point I would think Club Blue is the favorite.


True (IL) - Mid-west 13-year-olds will beat up on watered down MD & VA teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/02/17 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023
Rock Lacrosse (MD)
True Lacrosse (IL)
VLC Blue Crabs (VA)
Madlax-Capital 2023 (Greater DC)
3d Mid-Atlantic (VA)
Bethesda LC Blue (MD)
Team 91 Maryland (MD)
Club Blue-MD (MD)
Club Blue-VA (VA)
This looks like a good pool for the MadLax event. At this point I would think Club Blue is the favorite.


True (IL) - Mid-west 13-year-olds will beat up on watered down MD & VA teams.



Can a True team that pulls from 4-5 different states beat some 2nd tier VA and MD teams that pull kids from a 15 mile radius? Yes, it can happen. Feel good?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/02/17 07:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023
Rock Lacrosse (MD)
True Lacrosse (IL)
VLC Blue Crabs (VA)
Madlax-Capital 2023 (Greater DC)
3d Mid-Atlantic (VA)
Bethesda LC Blue (MD)
Team 91 Maryland (MD)
Club Blue-MD (MD)
Club Blue-VA (VA)
This looks like a good pool for the MadLax event. At this point I would think Club Blue is the favorite.


When is this Tournament?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/02/17 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023
Rock Lacrosse (MD)
True Lacrosse (IL)
VLC Blue Crabs (VA)
Madlax-Capital 2023 (Greater DC)
3d Mid-Atlantic (VA)
Bethesda LC Blue (MD)
Team 91 Maryland (MD)
Club Blue-MD (MD)
Club Blue-VA (VA)
This looks like a good pool for the MadLax event. At this point I would think Club Blue is the favorite.


True (IL) - Mid-west 13-year-olds will beat up on watered down MD & VA teams.



Can a True team that pulls from 4-5 different states beat some 2nd tier VA and MD teams that pull kids from a 15 mile radius? Yes, it can happen. Feel good?

I would not but Club Blue and Bethesda Blue in the 2nd tier category. True has not played CB as they typically do not play later summer Tournaments but they are at the top in 2023 in MD
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/02/17 08:49 PM
2nd tier club blue won hoco aa last year yes this year they have 2 teams but at least one of those teams will be a top team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/03/17 12:50 AM
Maryland Invitational Looks Even Better -- Blandair 10/22

2023: Crabs, Looneys, Madlax, FCA, VLC, Next Level

2024: Crabs, Looneys, Madlax, Green Turtle, RR, Hawks, BLC, 91 MD
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/03/17 03:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maryland Invitational Looks Even Better -- Blandair 10/22

2023: Crabs, Looneys, Madlax, FCA, VLC, Next Level

2024: Crabs, Looneys, Madlax, Green Turtle, RR, Hawks, BLC, 91 MD


That 2023 bracket is definitely 'murderers row'; great programs going head to head, that will should be fun to watch.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/04/17 07:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maryland Invitational Looks Even Better -- Blandair 10/22

2023: Crabs, Looneys, Madlax, FCA, VLC, Next Level

2024: Crabs, Looneys, Madlax, Green Turtle, RR, Hawks, BLC, 91 MD


That 2023 bracket is definitely 'murderers row'; great programs going head to head, that will should be fun to watch.


Too bad the Hawks won't be there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/05/17 12:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maryland Invitational Looks Even Better -- Blandair 10/22

2023: Crabs, Looneys, Madlax, FCA, VLC, Next Level

2024: Crabs, Looneys, Madlax, Green Turtle, RR, Hawks, BLC, 91 MD


That 2023 bracket is definitely 'murderers row'; great programs going head to head, that will should be fun to watch.


Too bad the Hawks won't be there.

Hawks are afraid to post at a tournament this solid in the fall. They will play in one of Hogans weak fall tourneys.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/05/17 09:56 PM
Murderers’ row? Looneys and Madlax each won 2 games in hoco last year. VLC is a first year team at this age from an area already diluted. Crabs and FCA should play each other three times.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/05/17 11:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Murderers’ row? Looneys and Madlax each won 2 games in hoco last year. VLC is a first year team at this age from an area already diluted. Crabs and FCA should play each other three times.


HoCo doesn't mean nothing it's how a team does come tournament time. Ask Crabs, they won HoCo regular season 2 years in a row and lost the championship.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/06/17 01:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Murderers’ row? Looneys and Madlax each won 2 games in hoco last year. VLC is a first year team at this age from an area already diluted. Crabs and FCA should play each other three times.


HoCo doesn't mean nothing it's how a team does come tournament time. Ask Crabs, they won HoCo regular season 2 years in a row and lost the championship.


I think Crabs won plenty of tournaments last year and I have a feeling they will do the same next spring and summer as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/06/17 01:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Murderers’ row? Looneys and Madlax each won 2 games in hoco last year. VLC is a first year team at this age from an area already diluted. Crabs and FCA should play each other three times.


There has been a lot of turnover this year with the dismantling of last years Crabs 2023 Team and kids moving on to other clubs. FCA has definitely upgraded in several key positions; this was already a strong program. Looney's has done the same. Murderers' row should include Hawks and Club Blue; dump VLC and Madlax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Murderers’ row? Looneys and Madlax each won 2 games in hoco last year. VLC is a first year team at this age from an area already diluted. Crabs and FCA should play each other three times.


There has been a lot of turnover this year with the dismantling of last years Crabs 2023 Team and kids moving on to other clubs. FCA has definitely upgraded in several key positions; this was already a strong program. Looney's has done the same. Murderers' row should include Hawks and Club Blue; dump VLC and Madlax.


What positions did FCA upgrade? Their rosters are on website. They added a fogo. 6 attack and only 3 defense which seems odd. Did a defender drop off?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/06/17 06:41 PM
Originally Posted by Fred44
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Murderers’ row? Looneys and Madlax each won 2 games in hoco last year. VLC is a first year team at this age from an area already diluted. Crabs and FCA should play each other three times.


There has been a lot of turnover this year with the dismantling of last years Crabs 2023 Team and kids moving on to other clubs. FCA has definitely upgraded in several key positions; this was already a strong program. Looney's has done the same. Murderers' row should include Hawks and Club Blue; dump VLC and Madlax.


What positions did FCA upgrade? Their rosters are on website. They added a fogo. 6 attack and only 3 defense which seems odd. Did a defender drop off?
Bunch of kids moved to the lower team.... Still Daddy ball.. Dad's kids making the team and have no business on that roster...Kids are told that you can never shoot the ball... pass it to the coaches kids are your only options... If you don't like it you gotta go....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/06/17 07:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Fred44
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Murderers’ row? Looneys and Madlax each won 2 games in hoco last year. VLC is a first year team at this age from an area already diluted. Crabs and FCA should play each other three times.


There has been a lot of turnover this year with the dismantling of last years Crabs 2023 Team and kids moving on to other clubs. FCA has definitely upgraded in several key positions; this was already a strong program. Looney's has done the same. Murderers' row should include Hawks and Club Blue; dump VLC and Madlax.


What positions did FCA upgrade? Their rosters are on website. They added a fogo. 6 attack and only 3 defense which seems odd. Did a defender drop off?
Bunch of kids moved to the lower team.... Still Daddy ball.. Dad's kids making the team and have no business on that roster...Kids are told that you can never shoot the ball... pass it to the coaches kids are your only options... If you don't like it you gotta go....


With all due respect sir you have no clue what you’re talking about.

Attack and defense are loaded; they upgraded in the circle along with midfielders. My guess is the LSM will be interchangeable with the defense. Should be a fun team to watch.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/10/17 12:09 PM
The schedule is out for the 2017 Fall Maryland Lacrosse Tournament; nice little tournament on Oct 22 with some good competition. Anxious to see how much some of these teams have changed in a few short months.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/10/17 05:03 PM
11/5 FallFest confirmed programs are not too shabby either. Most of the same teams and throw in Club Blue Md and bunch of Holdbacks from True.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/10/17 07:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
11/5 FallFest confirmed programs are not too shabby either. Most of the same teams and throw in Club Blue Md and bunch of Holdbacks from True.

Crabs has a 2023 holdback on their 2025 team. the kid is 5'4" 135
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/10/17 07:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
11/5 FallFest confirmed programs are not too shabby either. Most of the same teams and throw in Club Blue Md and bunch of Holdbacks from True.

Unless you are referring to a different tournament there are only 2 teams playing in both of these tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/14/17 03:23 AM
What teams are playing in the North American fall lacrosse Invitational in New Castle, DE on 11/11?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/14/17 10:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
11/5 FallFest confirmed programs are not too shabby either. Most of the same teams and throw in Club Blue Md and bunch of Holdbacks from True.

Crabs has a 2023 holdback on their 2025 team. the kid is 5'4" 135


And you find that unusual in what way ??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/16/17 12:31 PM
I really don't think FALL Tournaments show much of anything of how team will be in the Spring/Summer of 2018. With falls sports still going most of these teams will not have a full roster at any of these tournaments. It is a great way to get the stick in the boys hands before winter hits but hardly a measuring stick to how good these teams may be.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/16/17 01:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I really don't think FALL Tournaments show much of anything of how team will be in the Spring/Summer of 2018. With falls sports still going most of these teams will not have a full roster at any of these tournaments. It is a great way to get the stick in the boys hands before winter hits but hardly a measuring stick to how good these teams may be.

This post got me thinking. I would like to do a poll asking how many kids on each of these teams have kids playing other sports. This is the 7th grade page so I will assume the number per team is kinda of high. But I would really like to know how many on the 2019,2020, and 2021 page still have a high number of kids playing two or more sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/16/17 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I really don't think FALL Tournaments show much of anything of how team will be in the Spring/Summer of 2018. With falls sports still going most of these teams will not have a full roster at any of these tournaments. It is a great way to get the stick in the boys hands before winter hits but hardly a measuring stick to how good these teams may be.

This post got me thinking. I would like to do a poll asking how many kids on each of these teams have kids playing other sports. This is the 7th grade page so I will assume the number per team is kinda of high. But I would really like to know how many on the 2019,2020, and 2021 page still have a high number of kids playing two or more sports.


It's really hard to continue to be a multi sport athlete as the boys go along in school. The schools (especially privates) give lip service to it being possible to be a multi sport athlete, and stating on their websites that they encourage it, but the reality is much different. Only the very gifted athlete can play multiple sports in high school - or even for their middle school teams at schools like Loyola. The boys who are making the teams in high school are very often the kids who play one sport year round. There is a subset that plays both, but the number grows smaller as they get older, especially after 10th grade. The less "marquee" sports are where a boy can participate in a second sport - such as wrestling, cross country, track and the like.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/16/17 01:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I really don't think FALL Tournaments show much of anything of how team will be in the Spring/Summer of 2018. With falls sports still going most of these teams will not have a full roster at any of these tournaments. It is a great way to get the stick in the boys hands before winter hits but hardly a measuring stick to how good these teams may be.

This post got me thinking. I would like to do a poll asking how many kids on each of these teams have kids playing other sports. This is the 7th grade page so I will assume the number per team is kinda of high. But I would really like to know how many on the 2019,2020, and 2021 page still have a high number of kids playing two or more sports.



I have a 2020 who still plays soccer in the fall and basketball in the winter. He will be missing one fall lax tournament for soccer and will not be playing on his indoor team for the winter because basketball comes first. There are quite a few of 2020’s who are still multi sport athletes. A good coach allows it, even encourages it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/16/17 03:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I really don't think FALL Tournaments show much of anything of how team will be in the Spring/Summer of 2018. With falls sports still going most of these teams will not have a full roster at any of these tournaments. It is a great way to get the stick in the boys hands before winter hits but hardly a measuring stick to how good these teams may be.

This post got me thinking. I would like to do a poll asking how many kids on each of these teams have kids playing other sports. This is the 7th grade page so I will assume the number per team is kinda of high. But I would really like to know how many on the 2019,2020, and 2021 page still have a high number of kids playing two or more sports.



I have a 2020 who still plays soccer in the fall and basketball in the winter. He will be missing one fall lax tournament for soccer and will not be playing on his indoor team for the winter because basketball comes first. There are quite a few of 2020’s who are still multi sport athletes. A good coach allows it, even encourages it.

Well we all hear that the kids should be doing it and they all say you can. But the real question is how many on his team play two or more sports. And how good are his high school teams if he can play on more then one? And what club does he play for that lets him miss so many things? And do you think he gets blacked balled for missing club games/practices?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/16/17 06:44 PM
News flash. The parents with the athletic kid that plays football and basketball don’t care what the lacrosse coach thinks. And that is exactly why the lacrosse coach wants that kid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/16/17 06:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
News flash. The parents with the athletic kid that plays football and basketball don’t care what the lacrosse coach thinks. And that is exactly why the lacrosse coach wants that kid.


I am very aware of the the level of talent it takes to be able to play high school football and lacrosse. But at these larger public high schools or some of the football power house privates I am wondering if the numbers of kids doing both is going down or staying the same. If you are a stud football player you are most of the time a stud lacrosse player but with lacrosse growing in numbers and eyes watching it, i was just wondering if the numbers are going down.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/16/17 07:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
News flash. The parents with the athletic kid that plays football and basketball don’t care what the lacrosse coach thinks. And that is exactly why the lacrosse coach wants that kid.


It's not that they don't care but if your child is athletically blessed then they are game changing for a team and coaches will cooperate in order to have the child on the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/16/17 07:18 PM
At this age; 7th grade, if you kid is not playing two+ sports he should be!! Our coach stresses the importance of a 2-3 sport athlete.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/19/17 02:47 PM
This weekend's 2023 action-

Maryland Invitational (Blandair): Crabs, FCA A, Looneys, VLC, Madlax Capital, Next Level

Brine Indian Summer (Jarrettsville) : Koopers, Cavalier, 3d, FCA B, Breakers, Shockwave

Clear distinction of A versus B. Guess there wasn't a Little Sisters of the Poor tournament for Cavs to play in.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/19/17 04:16 PM
Next Level scrimmaged Cavs and it was ugly, like 15-1. Cavs playing in the right tourney.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/19/17 06:01 PM
Next Level also put a 10+ goal beat down on Madlax 2023 FWW.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/19/17 07:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I really don't think FALL Tournaments show much of anything of how team will be in the Spring/Summer of 2018. With falls sports still going most of these teams will not have a full roster at any of these tournaments. It is a great way to get the stick in the boys hands before winter hits but hardly a measuring stick to how good these teams may be.

This post got me thinking. I would like to do a poll asking how many kids on each of these teams have kids playing other sports. This is the 7th grade page so I will assume the number per team is kinda of high. But I would really like to know how many on the 2019,2020, and 2021 page still have a high number of kids playing two or more sports.


It's really hard to continue to be a multi sport athlete as the boys go along in school. The schools (especially privates) give lip service to it being possible to be a multi sport athlete, and stating on their websites that they encourage it, but the reality is much different. Only the very gifted athlete can play multiple sports in high school - or even for their middle school teams at schools like Loyola. The boys who are making the teams in high school are very often the kids who play one sport year round. There is a subset that plays both, but the number grows smaller as they get older, especially after 10th grade. The less "marquee" sports are where a boy can participate in a second sport - such as wrestling, cross country, track and the like.


Clearly your kids don't attend MCD. Almost all of their lacrosse starters are 2 and 3 sport athletes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/19/17 07:59 PM
It was combined Capital/DMV Team. NL only had their A team kids there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/19/17 09:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This weekend's 2023 action-

Maryland Invitational (Blandair): Crabs, FCA A, Looneys, VLC, Madlax Capital, Next Level

Brine Indian Summer (Jarrettsville) : Koopers, Cavalier, 3d, FCA B, Breakers, Shockwave

Clear distinction of A versus B. Guess there wasn't a Little Sisters of the Poor tournament for Cavs to play in.

Winner from Maryland Invitational gets to play in Leesburg next weekend against Evergreen for the Brine-Warrior-Hogan Aloha Mid-Atlantic 2023 Fall Championship.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/19/17 09:26 PM

"Clearly your kids don't attend MCD. Almost all of their lacrosse starters are 2 and 3 sport athletes"

It seems that paying $30k per year gives you a superiority complex. Clearly.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/19/17 09:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This weekend's 2023 action-

Maryland Invitational (Blandair): Crabs, FCA A, Looneys, VLC, Madlax Capital, Next Level

Brine Indian Summer (Jarrettsville) : Koopers, Cavalier, 3d, FCA B, Breakers, Shockwave

Clear distinction of A versus B. Guess there wasn't a Little Sisters of the Poor tournament for Cavs to play in.

Winner from Maryland Invitational gets to play in Leesburg next weekend against Evergreen for the Brine-Warrior-Hogan Aloha Mid-Atlantic 2023 Fall Championship.


http://www.tribal-lacrosse.com/battle-of-leesburg

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/20/17 09:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This weekend's 2023 action-

Maryland Invitational (Blandair): Crabs, FCA A, Looneys, VLC, Madlax Capital, Next Level

Brine Indian Summer (Jarrettsville) : Koopers, Cavalier, 3d, FCA B, Breakers, Shockwave

Clear distinction of A versus B. Guess there wasn't a Little Sisters of the Poor tournament for Cavs to play in.

Winner from Maryland Invitational gets to play in Leesburg next weekend against Evergreen for the Brine-Warrior-Hogan Aloha Mid-Atlantic 2023 Fall Championship.

This guy is very aware of the second level lacrosse world. These are all the buzz words and titles to know when your team is not elite. If you have a Aloha tournament on your schedule you need to find a better team. Or if your son is not elite this is the prefect place for him. Nothing wrong with it just understand you are playing in the minors and you should not read and talk about the NLF teams like your equals.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/20/17 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This weekend's 2023 action-

Maryland Invitational (Blandair): Crabs, FCA A, Looneys, VLC, Madlax Capital, Next Level

Brine Indian Summer (Jarrettsville) : Koopers, Cavalier, 3d, FCA B, Breakers, Shockwave

Clear distinction of A versus B. Guess there wasn't a Little Sisters of the Poor tournament for Cavs to play in.

Winner from Maryland Invitational gets to play in Leesburg next weekend against Evergreen for the Brine-Warrior-Hogan Aloha Mid-Atlantic 2023 Fall Championship.

This guy is very aware of the second level lacrosse world. These are all the buzz words and titles to know when your team is not elite. If you have a Aloha tournament on your schedule you need to find a better team. Or if your son is not elite this is the prefect place for him. Nothing wrong with it just understand you are playing in the minors and you should not read and talk about the NLF teams like your equals.

Crabs, Iron Horse, Philadelphia Freedom, Next Level, VLC, Bethesda, Sweetlax, NXT, API, Edge, and many others all playing this fall in an Aloha tournament this fall and are "first level." Good players play at all levels for a variety of reasons. HS will equal it all out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/20/17 05:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Clearly your kids don't attend MCD. Almost all of their lacrosse starters are 2 and 3 sport athletes"

It seems that paying $30k per year gives you a superiority complex. Clearly.


No but my intelligence does. I discriminate....I don't tolerate stupidity. LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/20/17 05:34 PM
No Annapolis or Richmond Hawks?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/22/17 06:21 PM
What are the scores at McDonogh today?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/22/17 06:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are the scores at McDonogh today?

Columbia?
Next Level over crabs
Fca over Looneys
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/22/17 07:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are the scores at McDonogh today?

Columbia?
Next Level over crabs
Fca over Looneys


FCA went 3-0; 6-4 over Looney’s, 11-5 over VLC and 6-4 over Crabs. Tourney App won’t refresh so can’t tell you about the other games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/22/17 08:20 PM
Crabs lost twice today?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/22/17 08:47 PM
I thought Crabs and Looneys were the teams to beat?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/22/17 10:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs lost twice today?

Yes. Crabs lost twice today. They lost twice all season last year. A bunch of the players that left must have helped them to win so many games. I’ll bet they miss them now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 12:32 AM
You wish...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 01:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs lost twice today?

Yes. Crabs lost twice today. They lost twice all season last year. A bunch of the players that left must have helped them to win so many games. I’ll bet they miss them now.


They went to Looneys and Fca. Looks like fca got the best of them.


Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 02:37 AM
Fall Ball...Not the time to take results to seriously.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 11:20 AM
How did the other teams (MADLAX, VLC, and Next Level) do? I heard there was a lot of buzz about VLC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 12:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fall Ball...Not the time to take results to seriously.


I agree it a fall Tournament/scrimmage and the first time most of these kids have picked up a stick since summer!! With Fall sports being the priority and some rosters missing key components it is hard to really assess how these teams will be in another 6 months. That being said I think the new additions for FCA, Next Level and Looney's were apparent yesterday and I thought the level of competition was pretty much equal across the board; close games. FCA and Next Level went undefeated; I believe VLC went 0-3, MADLAX went 1-2, Crabs 1-2, and Looney's 1-2. Out of the 1-2 teams I thought Looney's was the most competitive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 12:24 PM
Where is 91 md hiding/playing? Did they fold like RR at 2023?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 12:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is 91 md hiding/playing? Did they fold like RR at 2023?


I was looking for them as well thinking this was essentially the HOCO AA League from last year. I have no idea what the plans are for this team and even what Fall Tournaments they will be playing in!??


Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 01:13 PM
Tough to judge teams in a fall tournament. Especially since most competitive games were decided by a goal or 2 and went down to the wire with a running clock....Most of these kids are juggling 2 to 3 sports at the moment and not focused on lax. Just silly to start ranking teams based on 1 fall tournament... For those who went 3-0 congrats....A lot of talent on those 4 2023 teams... Next Level , Crabs, FCA, and Looneys....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 02:03 PM
Cav's 2023 dominated proving they are in the discussion to be the top N.VA team in the age group
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 02:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cav's 2023 dominated proving they are in the discussion to be the top N.VA team in the age group


Sir you understand they were playing in the Indian Summer Tournament against second Tier teams? They could not hold a candle to the teams listed above.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 02:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fall Ball...Not the time to take results to seriously.


I agree it a fall Tournament/scrimmage and the first time most of these kids have picked up a stick since summer!! With Fall sports being the priority and some rosters missing key components it is hard to really assess how these teams will be in another 6 months. That being said I think the new additions for FCA, Next Level and Looney's were apparent yesterday and I thought the level of competition was pretty much equal across the board; close games. FCA and Next Level went undefeated; I believe VLC went 0-3, MADLAX went 1-2, Crabs 1-2, and Looney's 1-2. Out of the 1-2 teams I thought Looney's was the most competitive.

2024 dad here and I was in attendance. Like all fall ball, hard to make much out of the results. I know Next Level was missing some key players and they still went 3-0, but every team could say key players were out. Saw the first half of FCA-VLC and it was tied after VLC jumped out to an early lead. Saw half of Looneys-Next Level and Looneys hung in there for stretches. Saw every team play a little bit and all teams looked like elite teams, though not equal elite teams. Weather was great. The only bad thing was the hornets, they were everywhere and saw 2 people stung.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 02:33 PM
Seem
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cav's 2023 dominated proving they are in the discussion to be the top N.VA team in the age group


Sir you understand they were playing in the Indian Summer Tournament against second Tier teams? They could not hold a candle to the teams listed above.

Seems like the Cavs parents do not understand that it was FCA's B teams that attended Indian Summer. Hey Cavs 2023, how did that scrimmage against Next Level go? You know the answer, and NL was missing some of its best kids for that scrimmage.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 04:48 PM
I unfortunately was unable to attend the 2017 Fall Lacrosse Tournament (hate working on weekends) and I agree it is difficult to judge these teams this early but which team(s) should we be watching in the Spring? I feel like Crabs may have taken a step back and the others are gaining.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 05:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is 91 md hiding/playing? Did they fold like RR at 2023?


Find out where the 24s and 25s are playing and you will find the 23 players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 06:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I unfortunately was unable to attend the 2017 Fall Lacrosse Tournament (hate working on weekends) and I agree it is difficult to judge these teams this early but which team(s) should we be watching in the Spring? I feel like Crabs may have taken a step back and the others are gaining.



Very impressed with Next Level 2023 yesterday. My son is on a 2025 team, but watched two Next Level 2023 games. Good job coaches!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 09:15 PM
My son plays for VLC and Next Level 2023 was definitely the best team we played yesterday. Every player they put on the field was legit and they have a bunch of studs starting with the face off kid and the lefty attack that shoots about 100 MPH. They are going to be a tough out for anyone. Also heard they are doing World Series of youth lacrosse as the whole team is on age, which I can't believe is actually true.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 09:48 PM
Ditto here for NL 2023. Good talent. Good coaches. Playing tough and fast. Low d bag factor. Class act.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 10:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son plays for VLC and Next Level 2023 was definitely the best team we played yesterday. Every player they put on the field was legit and they have a bunch of studs starting with the face off kid and the lefty attack that shoots about 100 MPH. They are going to be a tough out for anyone. Also heard they are doing World Series of youth lacrosse as the whole team is on age, which I can't believe is actually true.

What was your assessment of VLC? As a new team, probably need to work out some kinks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/23/17 11:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son plays for VLC and Next Level 2023 was definitely the best team we played yesterday. Every player they put on the field was legit and they have a bunch of studs starting with the face off kid and the lefty attack that shoots about 100 MPH. They are going to be a tough out for anyone. Also heard they are doing World Series of youth lacrosse as the whole team is on age, which I can't believe is actually true.

What was your assessment of VLC? As a new team, probably need to work out some kinks.

I am not a VLC parent I think they are new and did well for a first tournament someone else posted they were even with FCA for a half which is impressive. Maybe a low end AA but sounds like they were competitive and would have possibly won the "other" tournament this weekend. Maybe an upgrade from RR if they enter the Elite HOCO.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 12:26 AM
A lot of talk about NL; how did they do against Looney’s. I heard Looney’s was the team to beat next yr.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 12:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son plays for VLC and Next Level 2023 was definitely the best team we played yesterday. Every player they put on the field was legit and they have a bunch of studs starting with the face off kid and the lefty attack that shoots about 100 MPH. They are going to be a tough out for anyone. Also heard they are doing World Series of youth lacrosse as the whole team is on age, which I can't believe is actually true.

What was your assessment of VLC? As a new team, probably need to work out some kinks.

I am not a VLC parent I think they are new and did well for a first tournament someone else posted they were even with FCA for a half which is impressive. Maybe a low end AA but sounds like they were competitive and would have possibly won the "other" tournament this weekend. Maybe an upgrade from RR if they enter the Elite HOCO.

VLC lost to Madlax Capital by 4 goals (8-4), lost to Next Level by 3 goals (8-5) and lost to FCA by about 5 goals (don't remember the score). Very strong individual midfield play saved the day. Defense and Attack were pretty bad. Looked like VLC belonged in the field but even once VLC gets past the "give us time, we are a new team" stage, doubtful VLC will make any noise in HOCO Elite. As a first year team, go build confidence in the division one down from Elite, VLC should win it all there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 01:09 PM
VLC parent here and this is my sons first year playing club lacrosse. The competition was extremely competitive for us this past weekend and overall I thought our kids showed up and put up a pretty good showing!! We are a few kids away from really being able to compete at the AA/Elite level; I agree, but we enjoyed playing against these talented teams. I was extremely impressed with FCA; we hung with them in the first half but this team has a second and 3rd gear that I did not see all day and really shut us down and took over in the second half. From faceoff, transition game, ball movement and defense they were a completely different team in half number 2; we just did not have the horses to stick with them. I am not sure where we will be in the spring but I hope we still are playing at this level of lacrosse it can only benefit this team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 01:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
VLC parent here and this is my sons first year playing club lacrosse. The competition was extremely competitive for us this past weekend and overall I thought our kids showed up and put up a pretty good showing!! We are a few kids away from really being able to compete at the AA/Elite level; I agree, but we enjoyed playing against these talented teams. I was extremely impressed with FCA; we hung with them in the first half but this team has a second and 3rd gear that I did not see all day and really shut us down and took over in the second half. From faceoff, transition game, ball movement and defense they were a completely different team in half number 2; we just did not have the horses to stick with them. I am not sure where we will be in the spring but I hope we still are playing at this level of lacrosse it can only benefit this team.

Agree. Next Level went up fast on VLC but seemed disinterested in playing after the first 5 minutes. FCA vs NL would have been a good game. My guess is a fired-up NL team would beat FCA. Madlax was surprising small but a lots of speed and stick skills. To compete at AA/Elite, VLC needs several more pieces especially on the offensive end. Expect VLC will be powerhouse in a year or two.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 03:31 PM
FCA parent here. I don't know where you got that "disinterested in playing" comment. All of us are in the stands, we are not on the field, so I don't know how you can say that. VLC was a solid team and if they just got formed, they are in good shape.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 03:55 PM
Looney's lost by 2 or 3 goals
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 04:28 PM
No way NL on age to be able to play in WSYL. Nice try. Their FOGO, defenseman who did face offs and attackman are adults playing with boys.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 05:17 PM
Think what you will, but just know that this team has basically been together since 4th grade when it was an age-based team and before it joined the grade-based HOCO League. So yes, the players are on age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 05:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No way NL on age to be able to play in WSYL. Nice try. Their FOGO, defenseman who did face offs and attackman are adults playing with boys.


Sorry to disappoint you...but that is the case...all on age...and going to play in the WSYL...might be the only AA local 2023 team that doesn't have a contingent of reclass kids

Though personally, I don't have a huge problem with holdbacks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 05:34 PM
Wrong! None of the 2023 NL are hold backs. We are heading to WSYL. Btw our face off guy isn’t a FOGO- he plays most of the game and is a big scorer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 05:38 PM
It’s actually true! This NL team has been playing together since 3rd or 4th grade with very few additions.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 05:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No way NL on age to be able to play in WSYL. Nice try. Their FOGO, defenseman who did face offs and attackman are adults playing with boys.


It's only when the entire team looks like adults that it gets ridiculous. My son's team also has true 2023's that are huge but they are not the majority of the team. And it's not just size, there is a fluidity of movement that older boys have along with muscular development.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wrong! None of the 2023 NL are hold backs. We are heading to WSYL. Btw our face off guy isn’t a FOGO- he plays most of the game and is a big scorer.


This is the same team that Looney's whooped on last year at the end of the season; your FOGO aka big scorer is not all that...our guys handled him pretty well last year. I don't see much changing once we get our entire team together in the Spring.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 06:01 PM
“Whooped on”? Big talk for a team that won 2 games in Hoco over 2 years. Who did Looneys beat this past weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 06:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wrong! None of the 2023 NL are hold backs. We are heading to WSYL. Btw our face off guy isn’t a FOGO- he plays most of the game and is a big scorer.


This is the same team that Looney's whooped on last year at the end of the season; your FOGO aka big scorer is not all that...our guys handled him pretty well last year. I don't see much changing once we get our entire team together in the Spring.



Typical Looney's trash. There's a reason why those kids go to certain MIAA and others - can't afford the higher price tags and those kids can't get in on their own merits.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 06:21 PM
Yeah class act.... The NL parents screaming at the ref was really classsy... Sitting right behind the bench calling a ref horrible was really classy.....Get a grip
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“Whooped on”? Big talk for a team that won 2 games in Hoco over 2 years. Who did Looneys beat this past weekend?


Crab Feast my friend when our entire team was there plus we have upgraded in numerous positions; NL is completed over-rated with little talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 07:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wrong! None of the 2023 NL are hold backs. We are heading to WSYL. Btw our face off guy isn’t a FOGO- he plays most of the game and is a big scorer.


This is the same team that Looney's whooped on last year at the end of the season; your FOGO aka big scorer is not all that...our guys handled him pretty well last year. I don't see much changing once we get our entire team together in the Spring.


I think you're confusing NL w Madlax, who Looneys beat at the end of the Hoco season. NL beat our boys soundly in the Hoco regular season game and then we won by a goal at Crabs tournament - which could have been their best game of the year. NL was the better team Sunday. Let's just enjoy watching them compete and leave the smack talk to others
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 08:02 PM
Don't think Next Level is overrated. NL looked great on Sunday. NL plays in Battle of the Bay this weekend. If NL does well there, questions will be answered. Sorry to break up the earlier VLC lovefest but VLC does not look that great to me. VLC's scoring was limited to athletic middies running through kids topside and cranking it from 10-15 yards out. They had no assisted goals in our game. VLC could not even spin the ball around on EMO without a turnover but I'll give them a break since it was their first tournament. VLC was easily the worst 2023 team at Blandair.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 08:12 PM
Mr. Looney: so a 5-4 victory in the summer is a whooping? I can honestly say Crabs and FCA have whooped NL before but not sure about Looneys. So on your planet what is a 10-5 Spring Season game? And if I recall that “whooping” was Looneys 1st ever win over NL. So congrats your boys played great that day. Be sure to put up a plaque to memorialize that big W. There should be plenty of room in the Trophy Case.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/24/17 09:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't think Next Level is overrated. NL looked great on Sunday. NL plays in Battle of the Bay this weekend. If NL does well there, questions will be answered. Sorry to break up the earlier VLC lovefest but VLC does not look that great to me. VLC's scoring was limited to athletic middies running through kids topside and cranking it from 10-15 yards out. They had no assisted goals in our game. VLC could not even spin the ball around on EMO without a turnover but I'll give them a break since it was their first tournament. VLC was easily the worst 2023 team at Blandair.


They couldn't spin the ball on EMO? Hyperbole much? Your analysis is based on one game. I heard they lost by a few goals to NL and you guys beat the Crabs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/25/17 03:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't think Next Level is overrated. NL looked great on Sunday. NL plays in Battle of the Bay this weekend. If NL does well there, questions will be answered. Sorry to break up the earlier VLC lovefest but VLC does not look that great to me. VLC's scoring was limited to athletic middies running through kids topside and cranking it from 10-15 yards out. They had no assisted goals in our game. VLC could not even spin the ball around on EMO without a turnover but I'll give them a break since it was their first tournament. VLC was easily the worst 2023 team at Blandair.


They couldn't spin the ball on EMO? Hyperbole much? Your analysis is based on one game. I heard they lost by a few goals to NL and you guys beat the Crabs.

VLC parent. Boys did well as 1st tourney. The offense was disappointing but should improve over time. Believe we have the right pieces on defense and just need time to gel. Not sure we have the horses on offense. I have seen much better offense from A teams in NVYLL Rec.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/25/17 11:26 AM
have not heard much about defending HOCO Elite champs Club Blue. Anyone heard/seen them?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/25/17 02:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
have not heard much about defending HOCO Elite champs Club Blue. Anyone heard/seen them?


Drivers Education
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/25/17 03:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
have not heard much about defending HOCO Elite champs Club Blue. Anyone heard/seen them?


Drivers Education


Admittedly poking the bear here, but if you want to see a club with many holdbacks, Club Blue is your poster child. Love they way they play, and the coaching is excellent, but many of the players, esp their top players, should be in 8th grade. Its a Mater Dei/Georgetown Prep thing I guess.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/25/17 08:29 PM
Is the Battle of the Bay schedule out for 2023? If so could someone post it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/25/17 11:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the Battle of the Bay schedule out for 2023? If so could someone post it.

Dukes, Annapolis Hawks, Richmond Hawks, Igloo, Next Level, Madlax Capital, Juiced Cherries and some Texas team. Games run 10-3 both days. Dude, way too lazy to type in whole schedule.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/27/17 04:16 PM
Texas mustangs are a very good team at this age group
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/28/17 06:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the Battle of the Bay schedule out for 2023? If so could someone post it.

Dukes, Annapolis Hawks, Richmond Hawks, Igloo, Next Level, Madlax Capital, Juiced Cherries and some Texas team. Games run 10-3 both days. Dude, way too lazy to type in whole schedule.


It's actually on Tourney Machine this year. Toomey and Petro are stepping it up a notch.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/28/17 12:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
have not heard much about defending HOCO Elite champs Club Blue. Anyone heard/seen them?


Drivers Education



OUCH!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/29/17 05:53 PM
Anyone attend Battle of the Bay; what teams looked good and what teams disappointed?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 12:05 PM
I thought the only legitimate teams there were the Hawks and Mustangs from Texas at the 2023 level. Next Level did not impress me at all and Richmond was a joke; definitely an A or B team. Lets also be honest; Dukes Lacrosse is a bunch of kids thrown together to play in tournaments to promote the program and make money; there is no TEAM concept there to speak of; do the boys even know each others names?. Watch our for the Hawks this year; they were impressive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 12:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the only legitimate teams there were the Hawks and Mustangs from Texas at the 2023 level. Next Level did not impress me at all and Richmond was a joke; definitely an A or B team. Lets also be honest; Dukes Lacrosse is a bunch of kids thrown together to play in tournaments to promote the program and make money; there is no TEAM concept there to speak of; do the boys even know each others names?. Watch our for the Hawks this year; they were impressive.


Thanks for your opinions Hawks dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 12:49 PM
I'm a Dukes National parent and to answer your question "yes" the boys do know each others last name. For not practicing together and living in different states our boys play as a team and win the tournament....just sayin
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm a Dukes National parent and to answer your question "yes" the boys do know each others last name. For not practicing together and living in different states our boys play as a team and win the tournament....just sayin


Please; they get together to play in Tournaments and Gonzo makes money from your ego! This program is a joke. Go to the PA Forum and read some of the comments there; spot on what Gonzo is all about.

And again watch out for the HAWKS 2023; they finished strong last year and are only getting better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 01:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the only legitimate teams there were the Hawks and Mustangs from Texas at the 2023 level. Next Level did not impress me at all and Richmond was a joke; definitely an A or B team. Lets also be honest; Dukes Lacrosse is a bunch of kids thrown together to play in tournaments to promote the program and make money; there is no TEAM concept there to speak of; do the boys even know each others names?. Watch our for the Hawks this year; they were impressive.


The hawks lost to the texas mustangs and igloo. Not sure there is much to watch out for from them this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 01:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the only legitimate teams there were the Hawks and Mustangs from Texas at the 2023 level. Next Level did not impress me at all and Richmond was a joke; definitely an A or B team. Lets also be honest; Dukes Lacrosse is a bunch of kids thrown together to play in tournaments to promote the program and make money; there is no TEAM concept there to speak of; do the boys even know each others names?. Watch our for the Hawks this year; they were impressive.


The hawks lost to the texas mustangs and igloo. Not sure there is much to watch out for from them this year.


Split with Texas and simply did not show up against IGLOO and only lost both games by one. This team will win HOCO walking away next Spring. I stand by my Dukes comment as well; garbage program and nothing more than self serving.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 01:38 PM
Dukes beat both of them(Igloo & Mustangs) yesterday....And save me all the nonsense about Gonzo. I've read it all...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 01:47 PM
The igloo Vs Dukes Game was the most exciting game I have seen in a very long time. As a parent, it is good to see Good lacrosse being played.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 01:50 PM
A
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes beat both of them(Igloo & Mustangs) yesterday....And save me all the nonsense about Gonzo. I've read it all...


Ann AllStar 'Team" put together to compete in tournaments to raise money for Gonzo's Philippine's trip; money well spent Captain Ego! How much coaching goes into those players? My guess is your son couldn't name more than 3 other kids on the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 01:52 PM
Sundays game was great!!!! Boys played hard on BOTH teams...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 01:52 PM
I was impressed by the athletes that Dukes put on the field...but aren't they really an "all star" team? Coming into a tournament such as this, aren't they supposed to win? I would be curious to see them play against similar national all star teams. The Mustangs looked really solid as well...but is that a similar situation to Dukes? A national team, just based in Texas?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 02:06 PM
As matter of fact he can...Can name everyone on his team. Thank you... again spare me on Gonzo.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was impressed by the athletes that Dukes put on the field...but aren't they really an "all star" team? Coming into a tournament such as this, aren't they supposed to win? I would be curious to see them play against similar national all star teams. The Mustangs looked really solid as well...but is that a similar situation to Dukes? A national team, just based in Texas?

You cant have it both ways! you can not say "We play the best teams and we are elite" Then complain how the other teams built there teams to make them Elite. Lacrosse is not football the amount of kids playing in one area compared to another area is not even. So you can say we kept up with a National team or we beat a National team but if someone from a none hotbed plays for a National team so there elite sons can play elite lacrosse no matter who is making a profit off it should not matter. And if any of you think these elite teams are not all out to win and make money for someone or some group you are blind. Just worry about your son and his skills and fun. Tracing money will only hurt your feelings.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 02:30 PM
To all the haters ...

Cavalier 2023 is now ranked #13 IN THE WORLD BY INSIDE LACROSSE. I don't see a lot of DMV teams (or LI teams) on this list. You can all shut up now.

https://www.facebook.com/cavalierla...443/1534325616590966/?type=3&theater
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 02:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm a Dukes National parent and to answer your question "yes" the boys do know each others last name. For not practicing together and living in different states our boys play as a team and win the tournament....just sayin


Please; they get together to play in Tournaments and Gonzo makes money from your ego! This program is a joke. Go to the PA Forum and read some of the comments there; spot on what Gonzo is all about.

And again watch out for the HAWKS 2023; they finished strong last year and are only getting better.



And how many Hawks kids played for the Juiced Cherries this weekend? The 24' JC team was 60% Hawks kids. Which is great for the game and the kids. Get out and live a little.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 03:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all the haters ...

Cavalier 2023 is now ranked #13 IN THE WORLD BY INSIDE LACROSSE. I don't see a lot of DMV teams (or LI teams) on this list. You can all shut up now.

https://www.facebook.com/cavalierla...443/1534325616590966/?type=3&theater


Like a dummy I clicked on the link -

Cavs are #16
3 of the top 5 are LI teams
#7 is DMV

your reading comprehension isn't great
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 03:27 PM
The Dukes advantage is not they're a national team, or that they played as a team, they won because the have older boys for the grade that are just physically more mature than the other teams. This is a short term advantage that has played out in every grade when boys go through 7th and 8th grade. Won't last, never has.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 03:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As matter of fact he can...Can name everyone on his team. Thank you... again spare me on Gonzo.


Please spare me that this team is close; the roster changes every month. Again money well spent funding Gonzo's vacations.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 04:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all the haters ...

Cavalier 2023 is now ranked #13 IN THE WORLD BY INSIDE LACROSSE. I don't see a lot of DMV teams (or LI teams) on this list. You can all shut up now.

https://www.facebook.com/cavalierla...443/1534325616590966/?type=3&theater



Good point, why are we even reading about Dukes Hawks when CAV's are the 2nd best team in the area according to IL. I think CB, Crabs, MadLax, FCA, Bethesda, 91, Looney's, should all think about playing in Williamsburg if they want to prove they are the best. The rest of us should shut up now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the only legitimate teams there were the Hawks and Mustangs from Texas at the 2023 level. Next Level did not impress me at all and Richmond was a joke; definitely an A or B team. Lets also be honest; Dukes Lacrosse is a bunch of kids thrown together to play in tournaments to promote the program and make money; there is no TEAM concept there to speak of; do the boys even know each others names?. Watch our for the Hawks this year; they were impressive.


The hawks lost to the texas mustangs and igloo. Not sure there is much to watch out for from them this year.


Split with Texas and simply did not show up against IGLOO and only lost both games by one. This team will win HOCO walking away next Spring. I stand by my Dukes comment as well; garbage program and nothing more than self serving.


Hawks Dad and Cavs Dad need to go have dinner together because they come from a fantasy world. A 3-2 Team in a Fall Tournament going to win HOCO? An A team winning 4 tournaments #16 in world? Both must be on the crazy train
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 04:42 PM
90% of the roster is the same they are just from different states and can't always make tournaments. Most of the kids are from the philly area and play on another team together. I haven't been on the team long but I've seen the same kids each month
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone attend Battle of the Bay; what teams looked good and what teams disappointed?


Dukes: looked good.better than the summer. Good collection of studs.

Mustangs: solid fundamentals. Moved ball well. Good Fogo. Hope to see more of them in summer season

Igloo: solid. Great game with Dukes. Tough to have to play them twice.

Hawks: good better than the spring but wouldn’t be counting trophies yet.

Next Level: did not play well. Looked to be missing a lot of kids from the team we saw last weekend.

Madlax: not good. Should think about moving down in the Spring.

Juiced Cherries: sweet logo but in over head at this tournament.

Richmond Hawks: like most Virginia teams not good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 05:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all the haters ...

Cavalier 2023 is now ranked #13 IN THE WORLD BY INSIDE LACROSSE. I don't see a lot of DMV teams (or LI teams) on this list. You can all shut up now.

https://www.facebook.com/cavalierla...443/1534325616590966/?type=3&theater



Good point, why are we even reading about Dukes Hawks when CAV's are the 2nd best team in the area according to IL. I think CB, Crabs, MadLax, FCA, Bethesda, 91, Looney's, should all think about playing in Williamsburg if they want to prove they are the best. The rest of us should shut up now.



You're that idiot Madlax dad who runs his mouth. Saw you got worked this past weekend, so you can stop posting now. Jealous that we are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and you aren't? Must kill you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 05:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all the haters ...

Cavalier 2023 is now ranked #13 IN THE WORLD BY INSIDE LACROSSE. I don't see a lot of DMV teams (or LI teams) on this list. You can all shut up now.

https://www.facebook.com/cavalierla...443/1534325616590966/?type=3&theater


Curious if cavs moving up to AA/elite division in spring?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all the haters ...

Cavalier 2023 is now ranked #13 IN THE WORLD BY INSIDE LACROSSE. I don't see a lot of DMV teams (or LI teams) on this list. You can all shut up now.

https://www.facebook.com/cavalierla...443/1534325616590966/?type=3&theater



Good point, why are we even reading about Dukes Hawks when CAV's are the 2nd best team in the area according to IL. I think CB, Crabs, MadLax, FCA, Bethesda, 91, Looney's, should all think about playing in Williamsburg if they want to prove they are the best. The rest of us should shut up now.



You're that idiot Madlax dad who runs his mouth. Saw you got worked this past weekend, so you can stop posting now. Jealous that we are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and you aren't? Must kill you.


Not the guy who posted before but if you think any Cavs team can play with any Madlax Cap team you are drinking. And it will really kill you when you lose your best 3 to 5 players to Madlax,VLC and Blackwolf in the next two years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 06:07 PM
Inside lacrosse just sen
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all the haters ...

Cavalier 2023 is now ranked #13 IN THE WORLD BY INSIDE LACROSSE. I don't see a lot of DMV teams (or LI teams) on this list. You can all shut up now.

https://www.facebook.com/cavalierla...443/1534325616590966/?type=3&theater



Good point, why are we even reading about Dukes Hawks when CAV's are the 2nd best team in the area according to IL. I think CB, Crabs, MadLax, FCA, Bethesda, 91, Looney's, should all think about playing in Williamsburg if they want to prove they are the best. The rest of us should shut up now.



You're that idiot Madlax dad who runs his mouth. Saw you got worked this past weekend, so you can stop posting now. Jealous that we are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and you aren't? Must kill you.



In order to be in their rankings, you need to be playing in their tournament. - so Cavalier is the 16th best team playing their tournament

All teams included in this ranking meet the WSYL’s age and roster requirements and will be participating in the U.S. Regional Qualifiers in the spring of 2018. [i][/i]
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 06:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Inside lacrosse just sen
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all the haters ...

Cavalier 2023 is now ranked #13 IN THE WORLD BY INSIDE LACROSSE. I don't see a lot of DMV teams (or LI teams) on this list. You can all shut up now.

https://www.facebook.com/cavalierla...443/1534325616590966/?type=3&theater



Good point, why are we even reading about Dukes Hawks when CAV's are the 2nd best team in the area according to IL. I think CB, Crabs, MadLax, FCA, Bethesda, 91, Looney's, should all think about playing in Williamsburg if they want to prove they are the best. The rest of us should shut up now.



You're that idiot Madlax dad who runs his mouth. Saw you got worked this past weekend, so you can stop posting now. Jealous that we are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and you aren't? Must kill you.



In order to be in their rankings, you need to be playing in their tournament. - so Cavalier is the 16th best team playing their tournament

All teams included in this ranking meet the WSYL’s age and roster requirements and will be participating in the U.S. Regional Qualifiers in the spring of 2018. [i][/i]


Cavalier 2023 posting a 17th ranking on FB.. What a joke.. They only take 6 out of your region.. let's remove the MD teams that you can't play with. You're not getting past the NJ and PA teams. You are going to be the Kansas State Wildcats of the preseason polls.. 4-4 and 7th place in the Big 12.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 07:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Inside lacrosse just sen
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all the haters ...

Cavalier 2023 is now ranked #13 IN THE WORLD BY INSIDE LACROSSE. I don't see a lot of DMV teams (or LI teams) on this list. You can all shut up now.

https://www.facebook.com/cavalierla...443/1534325616590966/?type=3&theater



Good point, why are we even reading about Dukes Hawks when CAV's are the 2nd best team in the area according to IL. I think CB, Crabs, MadLax, FCA, Bethesda, 91, Looney's, should all think about playing in Williamsburg if they want to prove they are the best. The rest of us should shut up now.



You're that idiot Madlax dad who runs his mouth. Saw you got worked this past weekend, so you can stop posting now. Jealous that we are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and you aren't? Must kill you.



In order to be in their rankings, you need to be playing in their tournament. - so Cavalier is the 16th best team playing their tournament

All teams included in this ranking meet the WSYL’s age and roster requirements and will be participating in the U.S. Regional Qualifiers in the spring of 2018. [i][/i]


Cavalier 2023 posting a 17th ranking on FB.. What a joke.. They only take 6 out of your region.. let's remove the MD teams that you can't play with. You're not getting past the NJ and PA teams. You are going to be the Kansas State Wildcats of the preseason polls.. 4-4 and 7th place in the Big 12.




Jealously. It really doesn't suit you, Madlax housedad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone attend Battle of the Bay; what teams looked good and what teams disappointed?


Dukes: looked good.better than the summer. Good collection of studs.

"Studs"? They come from weak minded families that need them to play down to succeed. In 2 years they will be barely noticeable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 07:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Inside lacrosse just sen
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all the haters ...

Cavalier 2023 is now ranked #13 IN THE WORLD BY INSIDE LACROSSE. I don't see a lot of DMV teams (or LI teams) on this list. You can all shut up now.

https://www.facebook.com/cavalierla...443/1534325616590966/?type=3&theater



Good point, why are we even reading about Dukes Hawks when CAV's are the 2nd best team in the area according to IL. I think CB, Crabs, MadLax, FCA, Bethesda, 91, Looney's, should all think about playing in Williamsburg if they want to prove they are the best. The rest of us should shut up now.



You're that idiot Madlax dad who runs his mouth. Saw you got worked this past weekend, so you can stop posting now. Jealous that we are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and you aren't? Must kill you.



In order to be in their rankings, you need to be playing in their tournament. - so Cavalier is the 16th best team playing their tournament

All teams included in this ranking meet the WSYL’s age and roster requirements and will be participating in the U.S. Regional Qualifiers in the spring of 2018. [i][/i]


Cavalier 2023 posting a 17th ranking on FB.. What a joke.. They only take 6 out of your region.. let's remove the MD teams that you can't play with. You're not getting past the NJ and PA teams. You are going to be the Kansas State Wildcats of the preseason polls.. 4-4 and 7th place in the Big 12.




Jealously. It really doesn't suit you, Madlax housedad.

Earlier this month, Cavs 2023 scrimmaged a shorthanded Next Level 2023 team that was .500 in HOCO last year. Cavs lost by over 10 goals and did not look like they belonged on the same field. Does Cavs only play B tournaments and win them? Yes. Does Cavs belong on any World Ranking? No.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 07:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes advantage is not they're a national team, or that they played as a team, they won because the have older boys for the grade that are just physically more mature than the other teams. This is a short term advantage that has played out in every grade when boys go through 7th and 8th grade. Won't last, never has.

Igloo looked like a 2023 team in terms of size. Several of the Duke's kids looked like HS players. The LSM who scored the OT goal against Igloo was easily 6'2" and around 200 pounds. The long haired attackman and several of the six foot defensemen can not be on age. No way. I would bet my house that Dukes can't play WSYL because of age restrictions. Igloo is playing WSYL and, when playing kids on age, they will excel.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 07:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone attend Battle of the Bay; what teams looked good and what teams disappointed?


Dukes: looked good.better than the summer. Good collection of studs.

Mustangs: solid fundamentals. Moved ball well. Good Fogo. Hope to see more of them in summer season

Igloo: solid. Great game with Dukes. Tough to have to play them twice.

Hawks: good better than the spring but wouldn’t be counting trophies yet.

Next Level: did not play well. Looked to be missing a lot of kids from the team we saw last weekend.

Madlax: not good. Should think about moving down in the Spring.

Juiced Cherries: sweet logo but in over head at this tournament.

Richmond Hawks: like most Virginia teams not good.



Thanks for a decent recap...looks pretty spot on from what I saw
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 08:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the only legitimate teams there were the Hawks and Mustangs from Texas at the 2023 level. Next Level did not impress me at all and Richmond was a joke; definitely an A or B team. Lets also be honest; Dukes Lacrosse is a bunch of kids thrown together to play in tournaments to promote the program and make money; there is no TEAM concept there to speak of; do the boys even know each others names?. Watch our for the Hawks this year; they were impressive.

I find it really funny to see someone post "there is no TEAM concept there to speak of". My son plays on this team and the coaches have been the same coaches since the beginning of the program. Players have been replaced over time with more skilled players but, on the defensive side of the ball especially, the core has been together for a very long time. The kids love each other and have an absolute ball hanging out each month.

The problem with a team that has a lot of talent is that people really hate them and want to find a reason to tear them down. I can tell you, first hand, that this is a great group of boys who play their hearts out and get nothing but hate from outsiders for it. Fortunately for them, they don't know or care to come onto this forum to see posts about how horrible they are for being good lacrosse players by "adults" posting anonymously.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone attend Battle of the Bay; what teams looked good and what teams disappointed?


Dukes: looked good.better than the summer. Good collection of studs.

"Studs"? They come from weak minded families that need them to play down to succeed. In 2 years they will be barely noticeable.

Ha! What an absolute joke. PLEASE show me the kids who are "playing down". Outsiders looking at big athletic kids love to make excuses and throw stones. But you have no actual facts and so you hurl insults instead. It's honestly laughable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 08:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes advantage is not they're a national team, or that they played as a team, they won because the have older boys for the grade that are just physically more mature than the other teams. This is a short term advantage that has played out in every grade when boys go through 7th and 8th grade. Won't last, never has.

Igloo looked like a 2023 team in terms of size. Several of the Duke's kids looked like HS players. The LSM who scored the OT goal against Igloo was easily 6'2" and around 200 pounds. The long haired attackman and several of the six foot defensemen can not be on age. No way. I would bet my house that Dukes can't play WSYL because of age restrictions. Igloo is playing WSYL and, when playing kids on age, they will excel.


And this is why it's the only tournament that really counts. All the others are fun and competitive but don't really prove anything, way to much disparity in ages with grade based teams and no true way to compare like athletes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Inside lacrosse just sen
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all the haters ...

Cavalier 2023 is now ranked #13 IN THE WORLD BY INSIDE LACROSSE. I don't see a lot of DMV teams (or LI teams) on this list. You can all shut up now.

https://www.facebook.com/cavalierla...443/1534325616590966/?type=3&theater



Good point, why are we even reading about Dukes Hawks when CAV's are the 2nd best team in the area according to IL. I think CB, Crabs, MadLax, FCA, Bethesda, 91, Looney's, should all think about playing in Williamsburg if they want to prove they are the best. The rest of us should shut up now.



You're that idiot Madlax dad who runs his mouth. Saw you got worked this past weekend, so you can stop posting now. Jealous that we are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and you aren't? Must kill you.



In order to be in their rankings, you need to be playing in their tournament. - so Cavalier is the 16th best team playing their tournament

All teams included in this ranking meet the WSYL’s age and roster requirements and will be participating in the U.S. Regional Qualifiers in the spring of 2018. [i][/i]


These rankings obviously are nonsense. API was #3 in the 'world' last year, and now they aren't even in the rankings. What happened to them?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 09:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes advantage is not they're a national team, or that they played as a team, they won because the have older boys for the grade that are just physically more mature than the other teams. This is a short term advantage that has played out in every grade when boys go through 7th and 8th grade. Won't last, never has.

Igloo looked like a 2023 team in terms of size. Several of the Duke's kids looked like HS players. The LSM who scored the OT goal against Igloo was easily 6'2" and around 200 pounds. The long haired attackman and several of the six foot defensemen can not be on age. No way. I would bet my house that Dukes can't play WSYL because of age restrictions. Igloo is playing WSYL and, when playing kids on age, they will excel.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! I absolutely LOVE this! I heard the "6'2" 200lb defenseman" had a blue ox with him too!! This is fantastic."several of the six foot defensemen"! This is so awesome.

Turns out that 3 of the kids aren't age eligible and it's by--and get this now--WEEKS (not the years that you so want to claim) that they miss the 9/1/2004 cutoff. Paul Bunyan who scored the game winner misses it by 10 days, I think. So you get to keep your house. But not your dignity. Because if you can't deal with the fact that a team of 12 and 13 year old athletes played a great tournament this weekend without literally making up lies you're going to need to go ahead and offer up your dignity.

Oh and you're going to tell me that EVERY SINGLE kid who played for Igloo this past weekend is going to also make that 9/1/2004 cutoff? If so, then good for the team because they were a very talented, well-coached team that will do well out west. If not--those stones everyone likes to throw at the DN team better be aimed at a lot of other teams as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 09:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone attend Battle of the Bay; what teams looked good and what teams disappointed?


Dukes: looked good.better than the summer. Good collection of studs.

"Studs"? They come from weak minded families that need them to play down to succeed. In 2 years they will be barely noticeable.

Ha! What an absolute joke. PLEASE show me the kids who are "playing down". Outsiders looking at big athletic kids love to make excuses and throw stones. But you have no actual facts and so you hurl insults instead. It's honestly laughable.


The only thing laughable is the amount of koolaid your drinking.They have a nice team but they aren't so big when compared to boys the same age. And truthfully that's fine, but show me these studs in three years when those "big athletic kids" are still 5' 8" and just your run of the mill lacrosse players. These types of pluers were the mistakes college coaches are looking forward to not making now early recruiting is over.
PS all the kids are friends so they know how old they are, it's not a big secret.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 10:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes advantage is not they're a national team, or that they played as a team, they won because the have older boys for the grade that are just physically more mature than the other teams. This is a short term advantage that has played out in every grade when boys go through 7th and 8th grade. Won't last, never has.

Igloo looked like a 2023 team in terms of size. Several of the Duke's kids looked like HS players. The LSM who scored the OT goal against Igloo was easily 6'2" and around 200 pounds. The long haired attackman and several of the six foot defensemen can not be on age. No way. I would bet my house that Dukes can't play WSYL because of age restrictions. Igloo is playing WSYL and, when playing kids on age, they will excel.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! I absolutely LOVE this! I heard the "6'2" 200lb defenseman" had a blue ox with him too!! This is fantastic."several of the six foot defensemen"! This is so awesome.

Turns out that 3 of the kids aren't age eligible and it's by--and get this now--WEEKS (not the years that you so want to claim) that they miss the 9/1/2004 cutoff. Paul Bunyan who scored the game winner misses it by 10 days, I think. So you get to keep your house. But not your dignity. Because if you can't deal with the fact that a team of 12 and 13 year old athletes played a great tournament this weekend without literally making up lies you're going to need to go ahead and offer up your dignity.

Oh and you're going to tell me that EVERY SINGLE kid who played for Igloo this past weekend is going to also make that 9/1/2004 cutoff? If so, then good for the team because they were a very talented, well-coached team that will do well out west. If not--those stones everyone likes to throw at the DN team better be aimed at a lot of other teams as well.


I think everyone can appreciate the boys performance. It's the parents that come on here and pump their chest's we can all do without
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 10:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone attend Battle of the Bay; what teams looked good and what teams disappointed?


Dukes: looked good.better than the summer. Good collection of studs.

"Studs"? They come from weak minded families that need them to play down to succeed. In 2 years they will be barely noticeable.

Ha! What an absolute joke. PLEASE show me the kids who are "playing down". Outsiders looking at big athletic kids love to make excuses and throw stones. But you have no actual facts and so you hurl insults instead. It's honestly laughable.


The only thing laughable is the amount of koolaid your drinking.They have a nice team but they aren't so big when compared to boys the same age. And truthfully that's fine, but show me these studs in three years when those "big athletic kids" are still 5' 8" and just your run of the mill lacrosse players. These types of pluers were the mistakes college coaches are looking forward to not making now early recruiting is over.
PS all the kids are friends so they know how old they are, it's not a big secret.

They actually ARE big when compared to boys the same age--that's what everyone is complaining about, right? How big they are? Well this one's going to hurt your theory--they're all 12 or 13. In fact all but 3 are age eligible for the WSYL (which seems to be THE measuring stick for a fair tournament all of a sudden) and the 3 who aren't miss it by literally weeks because they have August birthdays.

I wholly agree that if they stay 5'8" and ONLY depend on their size that wouldn't really work out well. But given that they're being taught how to be lacrosse players and utilize IQs I think they'll be okay.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 10:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone attend Battle of the Bay; what teams looked good and what teams disappointed?


Dukes: looked good.better than the summer. Good collection of studs.

"Studs"? They come from weak minded families that need them to play down to succeed. In 2 years they will be barely noticeable.

Ha! What an absolute joke. PLEASE show me the kids who are "playing down". Outsiders looking at big athletic kids love to make excuses and throw stones. But you have no actual facts and so you hurl insults instead. It's honestly laughable.


The only thing laughable is the amount of koolaid your drinking.They have a nice team but they aren't so big when compared to boys the same age. And truthfully that's fine, but show me these studs in three years when those "big athletic kids" are still 5' 8" and just your run of the mill lacrosse players. These types of pluers were the mistakes college coaches are looking forward to not making now early recruiting is over.
PS all the kids are friends so they know how old they are, it's not a big secret.

They actually ARE big when compared to boys the same age--that's what everyone is complaining about, right? How big they are? Well this one's going to hurt your theory--they're all 12 or 13. In fact all but 3 are age eligible for the WSYL (which seems to be THE measuring stick for a fair tournament all of a sudden) and the 3 who aren't miss it by literally weeks because they have August birthdays.

I wholly agree that if they stay 5'8" and ONLY depend on their size that wouldn't really work out well. But given that they're being taught how to be lacrosse players and utilize IQs I think they'll be okay.


So let's see you win without them since you "only" have 3
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 11:32 PM
Did any of the Hawks coaches ever play lacrosse before? It was really bizarre the number of violations they had. I know it is fall but then you would expect the other teams to have 8 offsides in 1 game. They also gave up a goal and had a flag for having 5 poles. Obviously the goal waved off the violation so what did they do. Sent 5 poles out for the faceoff. Luckily for them, the refs helped them out and told them they had too many.

They looked very unorganized. Maybe they have only had a practice or 2? Surprised they kept is as close as they did Sunday.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/30/17 11:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Anyone attend Battle of the Bay; what teams looked good and what teams disappointed?


Dukes: looked good.better than the summer. Good collection of studs.

"Studs"? They come from weak minded families that need them to play down to succeed. In 2 years they will be barely noticeable.


The only thing laughable is the amount of koolaid your drinking.They have a nice team but they aren't so big when compared to boys the same age. And truthfully that's fine, but show me these studs in three years when those "big athletic kids" are still 5' 8" and just your run of the mill lacrosse players. These types of pluers were the mistakes college coaches are looking forward to not making now early recruiting is over.
PS all the kids are friends so they know how old they are, it's not a big secret.

They actually ARE big when compared to boys the same age--that's what everyone is complaining about, right? How big they are? Well this one's going to hurt your theory--they're all 12 or 13. In fact all but 3 are age eligible for the WSYL (which seems to be THE measuring stick for a fair tournament all of a sudden) and the 3 who aren't miss it by literally weeks because they have August birthdays.

I wholly agree that if they stay 5'8" and ONLY depend on their size that wouldn't really work out well. But given that they're being taught how to be lacrosse players and utilize IQs I think they'll be okay.


So let's see you win without them since you "only" have 3

Two things. First, no one actually believes that there were only 3 that they missed the cutoff by a matter of weeks, but I guess you can make whatever BS claims you want on the internet. And second, without those 3 (and we all know it is higher), Duke's goes 3-2 and misses the finals. I am fine with holdbacks but at least be honest about it. And yes, the entire Igloo roster is on age, which is why you already see them registered and ranked for WSYL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 12:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Two things. First, no one actually believes that there were only 3 that they missed the cutoff by a matter of weeks, but I guess you can make whatever BS claims you want on the internet. And second, without those 3 (and we all know it is higher), Duke's goes 3-2 and misses the finals. I am fine with holdbacks but at least be honest about it. And yes, the entire Igloo roster is on age, which is why you already see them registered and ranked for WSYL.
So to be clear, regarding the THREE boys (and it's funny how you "know" better than a DN player's father that it's "definitely more than 3"), your assertion is that DN are somehow cheating by having 3 kids who have August 2004 birthdays and are 2023 kids? That's your point? That those 1-4 weeks somehow make them so much more unfair for your son to have to compete against?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 01:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Two things. First, no one actually believes that there were only 3 that they missed the cutoff by a matter of weeks, but I guess you can make whatever BS claims you want on the internet. And second, without those 3 (and we all know it is higher), Duke's goes 3-2 and misses the finals. I am fine with holdbacks but at least be honest about it. And yes, the entire Igloo roster is on age, which is why you already see them registered and ranked for WSYL.
So to be clear, regarding the THREE boys (and it's funny how you "know" better than a DN player's father that it's "definitely more than 3"), your assertion is that DN are somehow cheating by having 3 kids who have August 2004 birthdays and are 2023 kids? That's your point? That those 1-4 weeks somehow make them so much more unfair for your son to have to compete against?


There is no cheating and to be clear he said 1 of the 3 boys was born in august, "he thinks". The point is they are good strong players because they are older and have matured earlier and while the parents pump their chests the advantage will fade away as other good players grow. And I will guarantee you all the other kids will grow and the advantage will diminish.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 02:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is no cheating and to be clear he said 1 of the 3 boys was born in august, "he thinks". The point is they are good strong players because they are older and have matured earlier and while the parents pump their chests the advantage will fade away as other good players grow. And I will guarantee you all the other kids will grow and the advantage will diminish.

What you see as "chest pumping" I view as defending our boys. Time and again we, as DN parents, we are made to feel that our sons' accomplishments are somehow lesser because people want to tear them down as "cheaters". All they've done is come out and play the game they love. Many tournaments they're actually verbally abused by opposing teams' fans. Again, being called "cheaters" and told they're "Only winning because they're 2 or 3 years older". It gets really old really quickly.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 03:03 AM
Who cares about Duke’s, Igloo, etc.?

Cavs 2023 is the BOMB! We are ranked in Inside Lacrosse and should be ranked higher now that Igloo and Next Level lost at Battle on the Bay. Should be #3 at worst. Even Team 91 has not won their last 4 tournaments.

CAVS baby! Whether you like us or don’t like us, learn to love us because we are the best thing goIng.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 11:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about Duke’s, Igloo, etc.?

Cavs 2023 is the BOMB! We are ranked in Inside Lacrosse and should be ranked higher now that Igloo and Next Level lost at Battle on the Bay. Should be #3 at worst. Even Team 91 has not won their last 4 tournaments.

CAVS baby! Whether you like us or don’t like us, learn to love us because we are the best thing goIng.


3rd best team in country should play in top division in spring league next spring right?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 12:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about Duke’s, Igloo, etc.?

Cavs 2023 is the BOMB! We are ranked in Inside Lacrosse and should be ranked higher now that Igloo and Next Level lost at Battle on the Bay. Should be #3 at worst. Even Team 91 has not won their last 4 tournaments.

CAVS baby! Whether you like us or don’t like us, learn to love us because we are the best thing goIng.


3rd best team in country should play in top division in spring league next spring r

Hey Cavs parents you might want to check the websites and start comparing those college commitment list from the clubs you are trying to bad mouth. Those meaningless B tournament trophy's from 7th grade will not get your son on a college roster. Oh and by the way you are paying the same amount of money to play for the Cavs as the elite clubs are charging those kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 12:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
90% of the roster is the same they are just from different states and can't always make tournaments. Most of the kids are from the philly area and play on another team together. I haven't been on the team long but I've seen the same kids each month


What rock are you hiding under?? This team has a completely different roster with each tournament.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 12:24 PM
Personally I thought Igloo was the best Team at this tournament and they are all under the age limit; no other team can say that with a straight face. DN follow the rules and let see how you do against this team in the future??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 12:48 PM
Great point Igloo Dad!

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Personally I thought Igloo was the best Team at this tournament and they are all under the age limit; no other team can say that with a straight face. DN follow the rules and let see how you do against this team in the future??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 12:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Personally I thought Igloo was the best Team at this tournament and they are all under the age limit; no other team can say that with a straight face. DN follow the rules and let see how you do against this team in the future??


Igloo is not all under the age limit
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 01:09 PM
What are you SMOKING...BLC and NL crushed you
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Personally I thought Igloo was the best Team at this tournament and they are all under the age limit; no other team can say that with a straight face. DN follow the rules and let see how you do against this team in the future??


Igloo is not all under the age limit


Hate to inform you but we are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 02:11 PM
I thought the Texas squad, DN, and Hawks had the best players. The faceoff kid for Texas was outstanding. Hawks probably had the 2-3 best players overall with the big attackman (single-handedly beat NL), LSM, and big defender. DN obviously won with a lot of talent. Igloo kids had great coaching and stick skills and showed a lot of grit against DN. If the Hawks find a faceoff guy they will win a lot of tournaments when it counts.
The NL parents get the award for most embarrassing adults of the weekend. I saw a game (the Hawks game) where the official had to warn them about behavior several times.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Texas squad, DN, and Hawks had the best players. The faceoff kid for Texas was outstanding. Hawks probably had the 2-3 best players overall with the big attackman (single-handedly beat NL), LSM, and big defender. DN obviously won with a lot of talent. Igloo kids had great coaching and stick skills and showed a lot of grit against DN. If the Hawks find a faceoff guy they will win a lot of tournaments when it counts.
The NL parents get the award for most embarrassing adults of the weekend. I saw a game (the Hawks game) where the official had to warn them about behavior several times.


I would agree with the breakdown. I was also at that NL vs Hawks game and the behavior on the sideline was absolutely embarrassing to watch; I feel sorry for the coach of that team!! The FO kid from Texas was the best I witnessed; no one could hang with him on either day. IGLOO impressed me the most; excellent coaching and ball movement, they could have beaten DN. Hawks did not impress me in all honesty; poorly coach to say the least.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 03:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about Duke’s, Igloo, etc.?

Cavs 2023 is the BOMB! We are ranked in Inside Lacrosse and should be ranked higher now that Igloo and Next Level lost at Battle on the Bay. Should be #3 at worst. Even Team 91 has not won their last 4 tournaments.

CAVS baby! Whether you like us or don’t like us, learn to love us because we are the best thing goIng.


3rd best team in country should play in top division in spring league next spring r

Hey Cavs parents you might want to check the websites and start comparing those college commitment list from the clubs you are trying to bad mouth. Those meaningless B tournament trophy's from 7th grade will not get your son on a college roster. Oh and by the way you are paying the same amount of money to play for the Cavs as the elite clubs are charging those kids.

Ignore the haters Cavs Nation. We're going to Denver. Cavs 2023 can wave to all the Hawks, DN and TX kids when they are playing on ESPN. It is nice to have a team where all the kids are on age.

To be the man, you have to beat the man. Until we lose a tournament, haters should STFU.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 03:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Texas squad, DN, and Hawks had the best players. The faceoff kid for Texas was outstanding. Hawks probably had the 2-3 best players overall with the big attackman (single-handedly beat NL), LSM, and big defender. DN obviously won with a lot of talent. Igloo kids had great coaching and stick skills and showed a lot of grit against DN. If the Hawks find a faceoff guy they will win a lot of tournaments when it counts.
The NL parents get the award for most embarrassing adults of the weekend. I saw a game (the Hawks game) where the official had to warn them about behavior several times.


I would agree with the breakdown. I was also at that NL vs Hawks game and the behavior on the sideline was absolutely embarrassing to watch; I feel sorry for the coach of that team!! The FO kid from Texas was the best I witnessed; no one could hang with him on either day. IGLOO impressed me the most; excellent coaching and ball movement, they could have beaten DN. Hawks did not impress me in all honesty; poorly coach to say the least.

Richmond Hawks parents were obnoxious and often yelling conflicting instructions to their own players. The coaches should have told all their parents to stop coaching from the sideline. It does not matter if the team was in over its head. Bad look for the new Hawks affiliate.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 04:29 PM
I didn't see that from Richmond but I also didn't spend much time watching them or the Cherries. Surprised to see that the Annapolis Hawks didn't impress you - they probably lost every faceoff that I watched them take and still only lost by a goal against TX and Igloo. Like I said, they had three of the four best players in the tournament (TX faceoff guy was the other). The Hawks attackman is known in the area as the best player around. I'm a local rec/A level coach and I went to see if we could compete against these teams. We cannot - other than maybe NL. I'm sure we could also hang with the nationally ranked Cavs (lol). Just for fun CAVS fans - no need to beat me up on this forum anonymously.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 06:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I didn't see that from Richmond but I also didn't spend much time watching them or the Cherries. Surprised to see that the Annapolis Hawks didn't impress you - they probably lost every faceoff that I watched them take and still only lost by a goal against TX and Igloo. Like I said, they had three of the four best players in the tournament (TX faceoff guy was the other). The Hawks attackman is known in the area as the best player around. I'm a local rec/A level coach and I went to see if we could compete against these teams. We cannot - other than maybe NL. I'm sure we could also hang with the nationally ranked Cavs (lol). Just for fun CAVS fans - no need to beat me up on this forum anonymously.

I am about 99% sure that the Cav's guy is the same troll as the Evergreen guy and is not a parent a Cav's player. Just trying to stir the pot. The IL rankings are fake news. There are many teams that could play but do not want to go to WSYL. Is NL the only team from HOCO AA on the list? South River defeated Cav's where are they on the list? However, the Cav troll may be getting back at the Evergreen troll. A real Cav supporter would not post this stuff. If I am wrong just provide your initials we will guess who you are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 07:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I didn't see that from Richmond but I also didn't spend much time watching them or the Cherries. Surprised to see that the Annapolis Hawks didn't impress you - they probably lost every faceoff that I watched them take and still only lost by a goal against TX and Igloo. Like I said, they had three of the four best players in the tournament (TX faceoff guy was the other). The Hawks attackman is known in the area as the best player around. I'm a local rec/A level coach and I went to see if we could compete against these teams. We cannot - other than maybe NL. I'm sure we could also hang with the nationally ranked Cavs (lol). Just for fun CAVS fans - no need to beat me up on this forum anonymously.


I thought coaching was very poor for the Hawks that lead to several offsides and penalties and is the attackman the kids that left Crabs 2023?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 07:32 PM
http://www.wbaltv.com/article/bad-behavior-among-some-parents-impacting-youth-sports/13120381

Must read and watch......
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 08:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Texas squad, DN, and Hawks had the best players. The faceoff kid for Texas was outstanding. Hawks probably had the 2-3 best players overall with the big attackman (single-handedly beat NL), LSM, and big defender. DN obviously won with a lot of talent. Igloo kids had great coaching and stick skills and showed a lot of grit against DN. If the Hawks find a faceoff guy they will win a lot of tournaments when it counts.
The NL parents get the award for most embarrassing adults of the weekend. I saw a game (the Hawks game) where the official had to warn them about behavior several times.


I would agree with the breakdown. I was also at that NL vs Hawks game and the behavior on the sideline was absolutely embarrassing to watch; I feel sorry for the coach of that team!! The FO kid from Texas was the best I witnessed; no one could hang with him on either day. IGLOO impressed me the most; excellent coaching and ball movement, they could have beaten DN. Hawks did not impress me in all honesty; poorly coach to say the least.

Richmond Hawks parents were obnoxious and often yelling conflicting instructions to their own players. The coaches should have told all their parents to stop coaching from the sideline. It does not matter if the team was in over its head. Bad look for the new Hawks affiliate.


Texas team all holdbacks. Pony Express Lacrosse Style!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 08:18 PM


So good. No one really takes this too seriously. You are all "Twinkletoes" and "gender confused" after a tongue lashing from your wife.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 08:30 PM
BOTC in the news. Yes!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 08:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I didn't see that from Richmond but I also didn't spend much time watching them or the Cherries. Surprised to see that the Annapolis Hawks didn't impress you - they probably lost every faceoff that I watched them take and still only lost by a goal against TX and Igloo. Like I said, they had three of the four best players in the tournament (TX faceoff guy was the other). The Hawks attackman is known in the area as the best player around. I'm a local rec/A level coach and I went to see if we could compete against these teams. We cannot - other than maybe NL. I'm sure we could also hang with the nationally ranked Cavs (lol). Just for fun CAVS fans - no need to beat me up on this forum anonymously.


I thought coaching was very poor for the Hawks that lead to several offsides and penalties and is the attackman the kids that left Crabs 2023?


I don't know if he ever played for the Crabs. I heard that he was from across the Bay Bridge. I saw teams scheming their defenses to account for him and he was still able to score. My brother coaches football in AA County and he said that he is very good there as well. The Hawks had an outstanding player at every level except face-off which ended up costing them big. I did not see coaching as an issue with the exception of the Igloo game (I only saw the first half) but I chalk that up to fall ball.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 08:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC in the news. Yes!


Can we call [lacrosse] on the mom, her hands are too fat to have an athletic kid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 08:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Texas squad, DN, and Hawks had the best players. The faceoff kid for Texas was outstanding. Hawks probably had the 2-3 best players overall with the big attackman (single-handedly beat NL), LSM, and big defender. DN obviously won with a lot of talent. Igloo kids had great coaching and stick skills and showed a lot of grit against DN. If the Hawks find a faceoff guy they will win a lot of tournaments when it counts.
The NL parents get the award for most embarrassing adults of the weekend. I saw a game (the Hawks game) where the official had to warn them about behavior several times.


I would agree with the breakdown. I was also at that NL vs Hawks game and the behavior on the sideline was absolutely embarrassing to watch; I feel sorry for the coach of that team!! The FO kid from Texas was the best I witnessed; no one could hang with him on either day. IGLOO impressed me the most; excellent coaching and ball movement, they could have beaten DN. Hawks did not impress me in all honesty; poorly coach to say the least.

Richmond Hawks parents were obnoxious and often yelling conflicting instructions to their own players. The coaches should have told all their parents to stop coaching from the sideline. It does not matter if the team was in over its head. Bad look for the new Hawks affiliate.


Texas team all holdbacks. Pony Express Lacrosse Style!


I don't know if they were holdbacks or not and honestly don't care. Parents can choose to do whatever they want with their children. I know that they had a few talented players - #3 in particular, they were well coached, and their parents were classy on the sidelines. I look forward to seeing them play again.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC in the news. Yes!


Can we call [lacrosse] on the mom, her hands are too fat to have an athletic kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC in the news. Yes!


Can we call [lacrosse] on the mom, her hands are too fat to have an athletic kid.

Must be one of the pig moms from Looneys.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 08:56 PM
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 10:59 PM
The top FOGOs were the Texas and Next Level kid But there were several studs scattered across various teams at different positions
The Long Pole from Dukes was the most dominant across all positions
It should be a fun group to watch over the coming years
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 11:11 PM
It’s the same core of kids every tournament. Only one new kid this tournament that was brought from below the travel line.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
90% of the roster is the same they are just from different states and can't always make tournaments. Most of the kids are from the philly area and play on another team together. I haven't been on the team long but I've seen the same kids each month


What rock are you hiding under?? This team has a completely different roster with each tournament.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 10/31/17 11:15 PM
Much better

Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 01:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much better

Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.




The Texas FoGO was better that day, if he was MUCH BETTER the score would have been 10-3 Texas instead of Dukes
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 01:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I didn't see that from Richmond but I also didn't spend much time watching them or the Cherries. Surprised to see that the Annapolis Hawks didn't impress you - they probably lost every faceoff that I watched them take and still only lost by a goal against TX and Igloo. Like I said, they had three of the four best players in the tournament (TX faceoff guy was the other). The Hawks attackman is known in the area as the best player around. I'm a local rec/A level coach and I went to see if we could compete against these teams. We cannot - other than maybe NL. I'm sure we could also hang with the nationally ranked Cavs (lol). Just for fun CAVS fans - no need to beat me up on this forum anonymously.


Hey guys. LI dad here again. My son has played all of the Md teams for years. Great players on every team. We played hawks and lost in a close, awesome game. The righty attack was impressive, but we held him on But, my kid also played on the Warrior All American team against Maryland. When that kid played middie, he was unstoppable. Best player on the field at any position and it wasn’t even close. Take it for what it is, but the kid is legit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 02:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much better

Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.




The Texas FoGO was better that day, if he was MUCH BETTER the score would have been 10-3 Texas instead of Dukes


What game were you watching? Texas kid owned the DN kid who was slow throughout the tournament. DN won in spite of poor FO; that team just had better Middie and attack play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 02:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.


Ahhhhhhhhh I’ll have what this guy is drinking!! Lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 02:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much better

Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.




The Texas FoGO was better that day, if he was MUCH BETTER the score would have been 10-3 Texas instead of Dukes


What game were you watching? Texas kid owned the DN kid who was slow throughout the tournament. DN won in spite of poor FO; that team just had better Middie and attack play.


why are you tools comparing the play of specific 7th graders?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 10:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I didn't see that from Richmond but I also didn't spend much time watching them or the Cherries. Surprised to see that the Annapolis Hawks didn't impress you - they probably lost every faceoff that I watched them take and still only lost by a goal against TX and Igloo. Like I said, they had three of the four best players in the tournament (TX faceoff guy was the other). The Hawks attackman is known in the area as the best player around. I'm a local rec/A level coach and I went to see if we could compete against these teams. We cannot - other than maybe NL. I'm sure we could also hang with the nationally ranked Cavs (lol). Just for fun CAVS fans - no need to beat me up on this forum anonymously.


Hey guys. LI dad here again. My son has played all of the Md teams for years. Great players on every team. We played hawks and lost in a close, awesome game. The righty attack was impressive, but we held him on But, my kid also played on the Warrior All American team against Maryland. When that kid played middie, he was unstoppable. Best player on the field at any position and it wasn’t even close. Take it for what it is, but the kid is legit.


Which kid was he at Warrior? Is that 16 from the Mid-Atlantic team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 10:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much better

Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.




The Texas FoGO was better that day, if he was MUCH BETTER the score would have been 10-3 Texas instead of Dukes


What game were you watching? Texas kid owned the DN kid who was slow throughout the tournament. DN won in spite of poor FO; that team just had better Middie and attack play.


why are you tools comparing the play of specific 7th graders?


Comparing is a bit much - I agree. My intent in a previous post was simply to compliment the players that stood out to me (#3 TX, #9 Hawks in particular) Not to compare. The reality is, these guys are 12-13 years old. Some of the best players will be average later on and some of the average players will become great. I hope they all become great so that we get to enjoy watching them play. Best of luck to all the teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 11:21 AM
Everyone keeps mentioning the "FOGO" from the Texas Mustangs. #3 is not a FOGO--he's a midfielder who faces off and is very good at it. With that being said, you could see how the fact that he was a middie ground him down throughout the tournament and specifically in the final game. DN FOGO started to get the better of him later in the game (not every faceoff, but he did start to win some cleanly) as he was worn down.

As for the guy who said that Texas would have won 10-3 if he was "MUCH BETTER"--not a chance. Aside from at the X, DN were the more talented team in all other positions.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 12:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much better

Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.





DN Parent here and much like any other team we have both strengths and weaknesses and while we did not have our best day in the circle this weekend our boys will continue to work hard to improve; all of them! Fall Tournaments are just for that; to grow and get better whether its FO, Defense, ground balls, riding, transition, ball movement etc.. you just have to believe in the process and continue to work hard. I love this team and our boys; looking forward to watching each of them improve as lacrosse players!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I didn't see that from Richmond but I also didn't spend much time watching them or the Cherries. Surprised to see that the Annapolis Hawks didn't impress you - they probably lost every faceoff that I watched them take and still only lost by a goal against TX and Igloo. Like I said, they had three of the four best players in the tournament (TX faceoff guy was the other). The Hawks attackman is known in the area as the best player around. I'm a local rec/A level coach and I went to see if we could compete against these teams. We cannot - other than maybe NL. I'm sure we could also hang with the nationally ranked Cavs (lol). Just for fun CAVS fans - no need to beat me up on this forum anonymously.


Hey guys. LI dad here again. My son has played all of the Md teams for years. Great players on every team. We played hawks and lost in a close, awesome game. The righty attack was impressive, but we held him on But, my kid also played on the Warrior All American team against Maryland. When that kid played middie, he was unstoppable. Best player on the field at any position and it wasn’t even close. Take it for what it is, but the kid is legit.


LI dad here. Thanks Express dad. No clue what you are talking about. Hawks are a mediocre team at best. And whatever Team some MD players played on at the Warrior games was the same. And there was no “unstoppable” player, since LI won all games, unless it was in the eyes of an Express dad, but I would imagine that a lot of players look unstoppable to an Express dad. Nothing impressive on that team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 12:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much better

Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.





The Texas FoGO was better that day, if he was MUCH BETTER the score would have been 10-3 Texas instead of Dukes


What game were you watching? Texas kid owned the DN kid who was slow throughout the tournament. DN won in spite of poor FO; that team just had better Middie and attack play.


why are you tools comparing the play of specific 7th graders?



IDIOT! That’s the purpose of the website. You don’t like it find another website!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 02:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I didn't see that from Richmond but I also didn't spend much time watching them or the Cherries. Surprised to see that the Annapolis Hawks didn't impress you - they probably lost every faceoff that I watched them take and still only lost by a goal against TX and Igloo. Like I said, they had three of the four best players in the tournament (TX faceoff guy was the other). The Hawks attackman is known in the area as the best player around. I'm a local rec/A level coach and I went to see if we could compete against these teams. We cannot - other than maybe NL. I'm sure we could also hang with the nationally ranked Cavs (lol). Just for fun CAVS fans - no need to beat me up on this forum anonymously.


Hey guys. LI dad here again. My son has played all of the Md teams for years. Great players on every team. We played hawks and lost in a close, awesome game. The righty attack was impressive, but we held him on But, my kid also played on the Warrior All American team against Maryland. When that kid played middie, he was unstoppable. Best player on the field at any position and it wasn’t even close. Take it for what it is, but the kid is legit.


LI dad here. Thanks Express dad. No clue what you are talking about. Hawks are a mediocre team at best. And whatever Team some MD players played on at the Warrior games was the same. And there was no “unstoppable” player, since LI won all games, unless it was in the eyes of an Express dad, but I would imagine that a lot of players look unstoppable to an Express dad. Nothing impressive on that team.



Mid-Atlantic won Warrior at age 2023 - not LI. #16 was unstoppable and dominated the LI team. He was clearly the best player there. It wasn't even close.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone keeps mentioning the "FOGO" from the Texas Mustangs. #3 is not a FOGO--he's a midfielder who faces off and is very good at it. With that being said, you could see how the fact that he was a middie ground him down throughout the tournament and specifically in the final game. DN FOGO started to get the better of him later in the game (not every faceoff, but he did start to win some cleanly) as he was worn down.

As for the guy who said that Texas would have won 10-3 if he was "MUCH BETTER"--not a chance. Aside from at the X, DN were the more talented team in all other positions.


Thank you for saying it!! #3 not only dominated at the field making plays. The kid stood out as one of the top 3-4 kids in the tournament!! I also agree that at the X was the only advantage Texas had over DN. DN was clearly the better team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/01/17 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone keeps mentioning the "FOGO" from the Texas Mustangs. #3 is not a FOGO--he's a midfielder who faces off and is very good at it. With that being said, you could see how the fact that he was a middie ground him down throughout the tournament and specifically in the final game. DN FOGO started to get the better of him later in the game (not every faceoff, but he did start to win some cleanly) as he was worn down.

As for the guy who said that Texas would have won 10-3 if he was "MUCH BETTER"--not a chance. Aside from at the X, DN were the more talented team in all other positions.


Thank you for saying it!! #3 not only dominated at the field making plays. The kid stood out as one of the top 3-4 kids in the tournament!! I also agree that at the X was the only advantage Texas had over DN. DN was clearly the better team.


Yes - solid midfielder. EXCELLENT Faceoff guy. I, for one, never said FOGO. We're splitting hairs here. I'm sure hes a great kid and is clearly an excellent player. Best of luck to him and the Mustangs.

Anyone who says that the Hawks were mediocre wasn't watching the games. The attackman was a monster as was the LSM. They were outstanding - with significant issues gaining possession off the face - and a hiccup or two from the staff. Like I said, when they get the face corrected, they will be tough to beat. I hope I'm wrong and some of their players come back to us. It might make us a AA team. Just kidding - I want all of the kids to do well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/02/17 03:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much better

Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN face off Kid was very good. Surprise to hear that the Texas kid was better.





The Texas FoGO was better that day, if he was MUCH BETTER the score would have been 10-3 Texas instead of Dukes


What game were you watching? Texas kid owned the DN kid who was slow throughout the tournament. DN won in spite of poor FO; that team just had better Middie and attack play.


why are you tools comparing the play of specific 7th graders?



IDIOT! That’s the purpose of the website. You don’t like it find another website!


There is a rules page that says not to discuss specific children. At one point moderators enforced. It's not the intent of this site. At least it shouldn't be
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/02/17 09:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about the Warrior games. The top talent NEVER attends those things. Warrior or Brine event do not hold weight. If your a dad who waves an $800 check in the air to buy a new set of equipment then your in.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I didn't see that from Richmond but I also didn't spend much time watching them or the Cherries. Surprised to see that the Annapolis Hawks didn't impress you - they probably lost every faceoff that I watched them take and still only lost by a goal against TX and Igloo. Like I said, they had three of the four best players in the tournament (TX faceoff guy was the other). The Hawks attackman is known in the area as the best player around. I'm a local rec/A level coach and I went to see if we could compete against these teams. We cannot - other than maybe NL. I'm sure we could also hang with the nationally ranked Cavs (lol). Just for fun CAVS fans - no need to beat me up on this forum anonymously.


Hey guys. LI dad here again. My son has played all of the Md teams for years. Great players on every team. We played hawks and lost in a close, awesome game. The righty attack was impressive, but we held him on But, my kid also played on the Warrior All American team against Maryland. When that kid played middie, he was unstoppable. Best player on the field at any position and it wasn’t even close. Take it for what it is, but the kid is legit.


LI dad here. Thanks Express dad. No clue what you are talking about. Hawks are a mediocre team at best. And whatever Team some MD players played on at the Warrior games was the same. And there was no “unstoppable” player, since LI won all games, unless it was in the eyes of an Express dad, but I would imagine that a lot of players look unstoppable to an Express dad. Nothing impressive on that team.



Mid-Atlantic won Warrior at age 2023 - not LI. #16 was unstoppable and dominated the LI team. He was clearly the best player there. It wasn't even close.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/02/17 05:11 PM
FALLFEST in Poolesville

2023AA

True National
Club Blue MD
Bethesda LC Blue
Madlax Capital
Team 91 MD
VLC

2023A

Next Level Spartan Red
3d Mid Atlantic
Rock Lacrossse
Club Blue NOVA

Probably True in AA and Next Level's B team in A.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/02/17 06:19 PM
Battle of Leesburg U13

Evergreen 2023, Evergreen 2024, Team Md 2023, Team MD 2024, Fall Line, Battlelax, Prospects, Md Extreme, Peninsula, Revolution

Shocked not to see Cavs 2023 playing. Seems like their kind of tourney.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/04/17 05:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone keeps mentioning the "FOGO" from the Texas Mustangs. #3 is not a FOGO--he's a midfielder who faces off and is very good at it. With that being said, you could see how the fact that he was a middie ground him down throughout the tournament and specifically in the final game. DN FOGO started to get the better of him later in the game (not every faceoff, but he did start to win some cleanly) as he was worn down.

As for the guy who said that Texas would have won 10-3 if he was "MUCH BETTER"--not a chance. Aside from at the X, DN were the more talented team in all other positions.


Thank you for saying it!! #3 not only dominated at the field making plays. The kid stood out as one of the top 3-4 kids in the tournament!! I also agree that at the X was the only advantage Texas had over DN. DN was clearly the better team.


Yes - solid midfielder. EXCELLENT Faceoff guy. I, for one, never said FOGO. We're splitting hairs here. I'm sure hes a great kid and is clearly an excellent player. Best of luck to him and the Mustangs.

Anyone who says that the Hawks were mediocre wasn't watching the games. The attackman was a monster as was the LSM. They were outstanding - with significant issues gaining possession off the face - and a hiccup or two from the staff. Like I said, when they get the face corrected, they will be tough to beat. I hope I'm wrong and some of their players come back to us. It might make us a AA team. Just kidding - I want all of the kids to do well.


A couple kids are quitting the Hawks team after the fall. They will not even make the playoffs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/04/17 12:40 PM
Where are they going?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/04/17 06:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Battle of Leesburg U13

Evergreen 2023, Evergreen 2024, Team Md 2023, Team MD 2024, Fall Line, Battlelax, Prospects, Md Extreme, Peninsula, Revolution

Shocked not to see Cavs 2023 playing. Seems like their kind of tourney.



Your jealously of Cavalier 2023 is sad. Why denigrate kids just because they are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and your club is not. Must you rain on their parade for this undefeated/tournament winning streak they're on?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/04/17 08:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where are they going?


We will take #'s 9, 11, and 16 please...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/04/17 08:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where are they going?


High school team for the Spring.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/05/17 01:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where are they going?


We will take #'s 9, 11, and 16 please...


11 or 16(forgot the numbers) is one of the coaches son and NEVER comes off the field. Would be strange if he left unless he wanted to play offense or something.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/05/17 11:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Battle of Leesburg U13

Evergreen 2023, Evergreen 2024, Team Md 2023, Team MD 2024, Fall Line, Battlelax, Prospects, Md Extreme, Peninsula, Revolution

Shocked not to see Cavs 2023 playing. Seems like their kind of tourney.



Your jealously of Cavalier 2023 is sad. Why denigrate kids just because they are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and your club is not. Must you rain on their parade for this undefeated/tournament winning streak they're on?

MadLax did not wins game in the Madlax fall fest. Cav's are now the top team in VA at 2034
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 12:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Battle of Leesburg U13

Evergreen 2023, Evergreen 2024, Team Md 2023, Team MD 2024, Fall Line, Battlelax, Prospects, Md Extreme, Peninsula, Revolution

Shocked not to see Cavs 2023 playing. Seems like their kind of tourney.



Your jealously of Cavalier 2023 is sad. Why denigrate kids just because they are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and your club is not. Must you rain on their parade for this undefeated/tournament winning streak they're on?

MadLax did not wins game in the Madlax fall fest. Cav's are now the top team in VA at 2034


The Cavs are the best team in the history of youth lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 01:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Battle of Leesburg U13

Evergreen 2023, Evergreen 2024, Team Md 2023, Team MD 2024, Fall Line, Battlelax, Prospects, Md Extreme, Peninsula, Revolution

Shocked not to see Cavs 2023 playing. Seems like their kind of tourney.



Your jealously of Cavalier 2023 is sad. Why denigrate kids just because they are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and your club is not. Must you rain on their parade for this undefeated/tournament winning streak they're on?

MadLax did not wins game in the Madlax fall fest. Cav's are now the top team in VA at 2034


The Cavs are the best team in the history of youth lacrosse.


In your home town??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 11:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Battle of Leesburg U13

Evergreen 2023, Evergreen 2024, Team Md 2023, Team MD 2024, Fall Line, Battlelax, Prospects, Md Extreme, Peninsula, Revolution

Shocked not to see Cavs 2023 playing. Seems like their kind of tourney.



Your jealously of Cavalier 2023 is sad. Why denigrate kids just because they are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and your club is not. Must you rain on their parade for this undefeated/tournament winning streak they're on?

MadLax did not wins game in the Madlax fall fest. Cav's are now the top team in VA at 2034


That was the Madlax DMV team not the Capital team. They stop sending there top teams to there own tournaments after 6 grade or so.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 12:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where are they going?


We will take #'s 9, 11, and 16 please...


11 or 16(forgot the numbers) is one of the coaches son and NEVER comes off the field. Would be strange if he left unless he wanted to play offense or something.



OK- those boys are on age. None of them are "holdbacks"- preK or otherwise. And none of them are leaving. just FYI
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 01:50 PM
that's BS they do and they lost...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 02:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Battle of Leesburg U13

Evergreen 2023, Evergreen 2024, Team Md 2023, Team MD 2024, Fall Line, Battlelax, Prospects, Md Extreme, Peninsula, Revolution

Shocked not to see Cavs 2023 playing. Seems like their kind of tourney.



Your jealously of Cavalier 2023 is sad. Why denigrate kids just because they are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and your club is not. Must you rain on their parade for this undefeated/tournament winning streak they're on?

MadLax did not wins game in the Madlax fall fest. Cav's are now the top team in VA at 2034


That was the Madlax DMV team not the Capital team. They stop sending there top teams to there own tournaments after 6 grade or so.

At 2023 age group that was Madlax top team yesterday that went 0-3. Another surprise was that last year's HOCO champs Club Blue 1-2, T91 1-2. The True National team was the best team by a mile.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 04:11 PM
What the [lacrosse] happened to Club Blue yesterday? Lost to 88+3; True and BLC looked very good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 11:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What the [lacrosse] happened to Club Blue yesterday? Lost to 88+3; True and BLC looked very good.

No one wants to hear it but Club Blue and Madlax Capital were missing key players who will not be missing in the spring, but every team could probably say the same. This is like pre-season NFL football. Fools gold for those who put too much into fall results. Terrible field conditions and steady drizzle also helped skew results to favor larger teams like True. Hate Poolesville fields. Horse crap all over the place. Five feet between fields leaving almost no room for parents to watch. More space for tents at tent cities in third world countries. Terrible drainage for most of fields. Never enough portapotties. MDLX needs to find a different location for its events.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 12:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What the [lacrosse] happened to Club Blue yesterday? Lost to 88+3; True and BLC looked very good.

No one wants to hear it but Club Blue and Madlax Capital were missing key players who will not be missing in the spring, but every team could probably say the same. This is like pre-season NFL football. Fools gold for those who put too much into fall results. Terrible field conditions and steady drizzle also helped skew results to favor larger teams like True. Hate Poolesville fields. Horse crap all over the place. Five feet between fields leaving almost no room for parents to watch. More space for tents at tent cities in third world countries. Terrible drainage for most of fields. Never enough portapotties. MDLX needs to find a different location for its events.

You are right no one wants to hear it. All teams played in the same conditions. Both teams were outplayed. One or two players would. It have changed that. BLC looked improved with the extra yellow helmets
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 01:33 AM
yes one of the fields was under water and the players couldn't find the ball for a while.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 02:24 AM
“Terrible field conditions and steady drizzle also helped skew results to favor larger teams like True.”

If that were the case Club Blue should have dominated too, guess the 6’-3” Warrior All American doesn’t count.

Give credit where credit is due, Club Blue got out played by a much smaller and younger 91 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 02:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What the [lacrosse] happened to Club Blue yesterday? Lost to 88+3; True and BLC looked very good.

No one wants to hear it but Club Blue and Madlax Capital were missing key players who will not be missing in the spring, but every team could probably say the same. This is like pre-season NFL football. Fools gold for those who put too much into fall results. Terrible field conditions and steady drizzle also helped skew results to favor larger teams like True. Hate Poolesville fields. Horse crap all over the place. Five feet between fields leaving almost no room for parents to watch. More space for tents at tent cities in third world countries. Terrible drainage for most of fields. Never enough portapotties. MDLX needs to find a different location for its events.



Guess your team lost! Better Luck next time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 02:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Battle of Leesburg U13

Evergreen 2023, Evergreen 2024, Team Md 2023, Team MD 2024, Fall Line, Battlelax, Prospects, Md Extreme, Peninsula, Revolution

Shocked not to see Cavs 2023 playing. Seems like their kind of tourney.



Your jealously of Cavalier 2023 is sad. Why denigrate kids just because they are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and your club is not. Must you rain on their parade for this undefeated/tournament winning streak they're on?

MadLax did not wins game in the Madlax fall fest. Cav's are now the top team in VA at 2034


That was the Madlax DMV team not the Capital team. They stop sending there top teams to there own tournaments after 6 grade or so.

At 2023 age group that was Madlax top team yesterday that went 0-3. Another surprise was that last year's HOCO champs Club Blue 1-2, T91 1-2. The True National team was the best team by a mile.

Best team by a mile...hmmm, don't think so. Bethesda played them to a 5-4 overtime loss even with the 6'2" defenseman that is normally a holdback on True North's 2022 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 02:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What the [lacrosse] happened to Club Blue yesterday? Lost to 88+3; True and BLC looked very good.

No one wants to hear it but Club Blue and Madlax Capital were missing key players who will not be missing in the spring, but every team could probably say the same. This is like pre-season NFL football. Fools gold for those who put too much into fall results. Terrible field conditions and steady drizzle also helped skew results to favor larger teams like True. Hate Poolesville fields. Horse crap all over the place. Five feet between fields leaving almost no room for parents to watch. More space for tents at tent cities in third world countries. Terrible drainage for most of fields. Never enough portapotties. MDLX needs to find a different location for its events.

You are right no one wants to hear it. All teams played in the same conditions. Both teams were outplayed. One or two players would. It have changed that. BLC looked improved with the extra yellow helmets

Guess you didn't notice that the yellow helmets on BLC don't start. There are other reasons they looked better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 02:31 PM
It is probably way to early for this but since some of the key fall tournaments have concluded I see some shifts in the rankings going into spring:

Top Tier: (in no order)
Hawks
Crabs
FCA
NL
BLC
Looney's
Middle Tier:
91
Madlax
Club Blue
VLC
Cav's
SR
API
Lower Middle Tier:
FCA-W
Hawks-B
3d
Lax Factory
PLC
PG
G
Not sure of the rest but there will be close games among a host of teams in B
Koopers, Ground Control, Wolfpack, Rock, NL (red), Club Blue VA, Gator....
All in all it is a strong age group. This is open for discussion but my $.02 is that fall does change the rankings, not just the result in tournaments but the changes in rosters after tryouts. Many players moved teams. All teams may have been missing players. Unless the missing player was a team's goalie and the only goalie on the team, that is not an excuse. Top players do play other sports but also do pick up sticks in the fall. Funny to hear the field condition was an excuse for a club that hosted a tournament. The question going into spring will be which teams will move up or down in the HOCO divisions? Which teams surprised this fall? Most improved? Most depleted?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 02:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“Terrible field conditions and steady drizzle also helped skew results to favor larger teams like True.”

If that were the case Club Blue should have dominated too, guess the 6’-3” Warrior All American doesn’t count.

Give credit where credit is due, Club Blue got out played by a much smaller and younger 91 team.


Team 91 parent there and obviously delusional; did you watch your team against BLC and a very average VLC Team? Team 91 scored the second fewest goals (11) while giving up the most (27). Hang your hat on a win over a depleted Club Blue team; anxious to see what they do against you in the Spring. How many out of state kids were you playing with Sunday? This club is a joke but enjoy that win to make yourself feel like you belong with the elite teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 04:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“Terrible field conditions and steady drizzle also helped skew results to favor larger teams like True.”

If that were the case Club Blue should have dominated too, guess the 6’-3” Warrior All American doesn’t count.

Give credit where credit is due, Club Blue got out played by a much smaller and younger 91 team.


Team 91 parent there and obviously delusional; did you watch your team against BLC and a very average VLC Team? Team 91 scored the second fewest goals (11) while giving up the most (27). Hang your hat on a win over a depleted Club Blue team; anxious to see what they do against you in the Spring. How many out of state kids were you playing with Sunday? This club is a joke but enjoy that win to make yourself feel like you belong with the elite teams.


Very average VLC team? That just got put together, beat Madlax, beat Team 91 by 6 goals and was losing by 1 goal to Bethesda in the 2nd half before losing by 3? Ok lax dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 04:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“Terrible field conditions and steady drizzle also helped skew results to favor larger teams like True.”

If that were the case Club Blue should have dominated too, guess the 6’-3” Warrior All American doesn’t count.

Give credit where credit is due, Club Blue got out played by a much smaller and younger 91 team.


Team 91 parent there and obviously delusional; did you watch your team against BLC and a very average VLC Team? Team 91 scored the second fewest goals (11) while giving up the most (27). Hang your hat on a win over a depleted Club Blue team; anxious to see what they do against you in the Spring. How many out of state kids were you playing with Sunday? This club is a joke but enjoy that win to make yourself feel like you belong with the elite teams.


OUCH! Lost does sting , Next Spring wont be any different, cant wait
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 05:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“Terrible field conditions and steady drizzle also helped skew results to favor larger teams like True.”

If that were the case Club Blue should have dominated too, guess the 6’-3” Warrior All American doesn’t count.

Give credit where credit is due, Club Blue got out played by a much smaller and younger 91 team.


Team 91 parent there and obviously delusional; did you watch your team against BLC and a very average VLC Team? Team 91 scored the second fewest goals (11) while giving up the most (27). Hang your hat on a win over a depleted Club Blue team; anxious to see what they do against you in the Spring. How many out of state kids were you playing with Sunday? This club is a joke but enjoy that win to make yourself feel like you belong with the elite teams.


Very average VLC team? That just got put together, beat Madlax, beat Team 91 by 6 goals and was losing by 1 goal to Bethesda in the 2nd half before losing by 3? Ok lax dad.


VLC playing against elite competition would get crushed; they are an average A team moving forward.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“Terrible field conditions and steady drizzle also helped skew results to favor larger teams like True.”

If that were the case Club Blue should have dominated too, guess the 6’-3” Warrior All American doesn’t count.

Give credit where credit is due, Club Blue got out played by a much smaller and younger 91 team.


Team 91 parent there and obviously delusional; did you watch your team against BLC and a very average VLC Team? Team 91 scored the second fewest goals (11) while giving up the most (27). Hang your hat on a win over a depleted Club Blue team; anxious to see what they do against you in the Spring. How many out of state kids were you playing with Sunday? This club is a joke but enjoy that win to make yourself feel like you belong with the elite teams.


OUCH! Lost does sting , Next Spring wont be any different, cant wait


Chances are we won't see you since Club Blue will be playing in the elite division while you struggle playing A lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“Terrible field conditions and steady drizzle also helped skew results to favor larger teams like True.”

If that were the case Club Blue should have dominated too, guess the 6’-3” Warrior All American doesn’t count.

Give credit where credit is due, Club Blue got out played by a much smaller and younger 91 team.


Team 91 parent there and obviously delusional; did you watch your team against BLC and a very average VLC Team? Team 91 scored the second fewest goals (11) while giving up the most (27). Hang your hat on a win over a depleted Club Blue team; anxious to see what they do against you in the Spring. How many out of state kids were you playing with Sunday? This club is a joke but enjoy that win to make yourself feel like you belong with the elite teams.


Very average VLC team? That just got put together, beat Madlax, beat Team 91 by 6 goals and was losing by 1 goal to Bethesda in the 2nd half before losing by 3? Ok lax dad.


VLC playing against elite competition would get crushed; they are an average A team moving forward.

Please clarify, who are the elite teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 08:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is probably way to early for this but since some of the key fall tournaments have concluded I see some shifts in the rankings going into spring:

Top Tier: (in no order)
Hawks
Crabs
FCA
NL
BLC
Looney's
Middle Tier:
91
Madlax
Club Blue
VLC
Cav's
SR
API
Lower Middle Tier:
FCA-W
Hawks-B
3d
Lax Factory
PLC
PG
G
Not sure of the rest but there will be close games among a host of teams in B
Koopers, Ground Control, Wolfpack, Rock, NL (red), Club Blue VA, Gator....
All in all it is a strong age group. This is open for discussion but my $.02 is that fall does change the rankings, not just the result in tournaments but the changes in rosters after tryouts. Many players moved teams. All teams may have been missing players. Unless the missing player was a team's goalie and the only goalie on the team, that is not an excuse. Top players do play other sports but also do pick up sticks in the fall. Funny to hear the field condition was an excuse for a club that hosted a tournament. The question going into spring will be which teams will move up or down in the HOCO divisions? Which teams surprised this fall? Most improved? Most depleted?


So Club Blue goes from winning HOCO AA Elite to being a Middle Tier team after a fall season where none of the teams have full rosters. Kind of kills the credibility of everything else you have to say.

HOCO AA Elite should have 8 teams. Easier for final playoff bracket. Your 6 plus Club Blue and Madlax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Battle of Leesburg U13

Evergreen 2023, Evergreen 2024, Team Md 2023, Team MD 2024, Fall Line, Battlelax, Prospects, Md Extreme, Peninsula, Revolution

Shocked not to see Cavs 2023 playing. Seems like their kind of tourney.



Your jealously of Cavalier 2023 is sad. Why denigrate kids just because they are ranked by Inside Lacrosse and your club is not. Must you rain on their parade for this undefeated/tournament winning streak they're on?

MadLax did not wins game in the Madlax fall fest. Cav's are now the top team in VA at 2034


That was the Madlax DMV team not the Capital team. They stop sending there top teams to there own tournaments after 6 grade or so.

At 2023 age group that was Madlax top team yesterday that went 0-3. Another surprise was that last year's HOCO champs Club Blue 1-2, T91 1-2. The True National team was the best team by a mile.

Best team by a mile...hmmm, don't think so. Bethesda played them to a 5-4 overtime loss even with the 6'2" defenseman that is normally a holdback on True North's 2022 team.

Funny how you neglect to mention True beat Bethesda 9-1 in opening round play. So, True was 2-0 with +9 goal differential against Bethesda. Sounds like a mile to me. Only Cavs can beat True.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 09:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is probably way to early for this but since some of the key fall tournaments have concluded I see some shifts in the rankings going into spring:

Top Tier: (in no order)
Hawks
Crabs
FCA
NL
BLC
Looney's
Middle Tier:
91
Madlax
Club Blue
VLC
Cav's
SR
API
Lower Middle Tier:
FCA-W
Hawks-B
3d
Lax Factory
PLC
PG
G
Not sure of the rest but there will be close games among a host of teams in B
Koopers, Ground Control, Wolfpack, Rock, NL (red), Club Blue VA, Gator....
All in all it is a strong age group. This is open for discussion but my $.02 is that fall does change the rankings, not just the result in tournaments but the changes in rosters after tryouts. Many players moved teams. All teams may have been missing players. Unless the missing player was a team's goalie and the only goalie on the team, that is not an excuse. Top players do play other sports but also do pick up sticks in the fall. Funny to hear the field condition was an excuse for a club that hosted a tournament. The question going into spring will be which teams will move up or down in the HOCO divisions? Which teams surprised this fall? Most improved? Most depleted?


So Club Blue goes from winning HOCO AA Elite to being a Middle Tier team after a fall season where none of the teams have full rosters. Kind of kills the credibility of everything else you have to say.

HOCO AA Elite should have 8 teams. Easier for final playoff bracket. Your 6 plus Club Blue and Madlax.


I will give you the benefit of doubt that CB may just have had a really off day. Missing players?? Maybe but Madlax may be the third best team in N.VA at this point.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 09:50 PM
I apologize to the rest of the board for responding to and encouraging a troll, but just two weeks ago a short-handed Bethesda team beat the living snot out of Cavs. 10-1 if memory serves. Seemed like good kids and coaches, maybe a program on the upswing, but in terms of the truly good teams in the area, currently a doormat. You are doing them a disservice with your rants and provocation. They should play the good teams to get better and teams at their level to compete, but it's unfortunate that they're apparently saddled with jerks, trolls and lunatics pumping their prospects. They are currently, at best, a middling regional/rec-level team. I certainly hope they get better and wish them the best. The more competition, the better for everyone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 11:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I apologize to the rest of the board for responding to and encouraging a troll, but just two weeks ago a short-handed Bethesda team beat the living snot out of Cavs. 10-1 if memory serves. Seemed like good kids and coaches, maybe a program on the upswing, but in terms of the truly good teams in the area, currently a doormat. You are doing them a disservice with your rants and provocation. They should play the good teams to get better and teams at their level to compete, but it's unfortunate that they're apparently saddled with jerks, trolls and lunatics pumping their prospects. They are currently, at best, a middling regional/rec-level team. I certainly hope they get better and wish them the best. The more competition, the better for everyone.

A month ago, Next Level minus several starters beat Cavs by well over 10 goals. Cavs clearly not ready for prime time. But as mentioned above, nothing wrong with that. At least thirty 2023 teams in DMV. Unfair to throw rocks at those who are not Top 5. Play. Have fun. Get better. By the time they hit high school, all these teams will look different with teams moving up and down these untested and unprovable imaginary rankings offered by anonymous dads with nothing better to do.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 12:55 AM
[/quote] At 2023 age group that was Madlax top team yesterday that went 0-3. Another surprise was that last year's HOCO champs Club Blue 1-2, T91 1-2. The True National team was the best team by a mile.[/quote]
Best team by a mile...hmmm, don't think so. Bethesda played them to a 5-4 overtime loss even with the 6'2" defenseman that is normally a holdback on True North's 2022 team. [/quote]
Funny how you neglect to mention True beat Bethesda 9-1 in opening round play. So, True was 2-0 with +9 goal differential against Bethesda. Sounds like a mile to me. Only Cavs can beat True.[/quote]

Well True North thought enough of BLC's competition to ask for a rematch when they're in town again in a weeks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 02:00 PM
fall ball is quickly coming to an end. All the kids that play football will be back. And Club blue(cheater hold backs) will be on top of Hoco again.
Elite
Club Blue king of the castle with the most hold backs
Crabs took a hit
BLC improved with new kids
Hawks solid
Next Level only team with NO HOLDBACK
FCA improved
Looney's who knows
Madlax won't win a game should drop
AA
team 89+2 lax factory API south river cannons cavaliers(best team in Virginia can't hang with any elite teams) PG this will be a fun bracket. Good luck to all
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 02:43 PM
Calling all 2023 kids who are good but not happy with your team!! Madlax has 3 tryouts a year go to the website and sign up for the Spring tryouts. There 2023 team is not good at this time but this team will be playing at all the top events and in front of all the top college coaches. During the next 5 years. No one on here can argue the fact that Madlax will be at the best tournaments. If you are smart this is the prefect grade and time to come to a Madlax team. I promise you other good players from the Cavs and other B level teams will be at these spring and summer tryouts . Get in now. I will sit back and let the Madlax hatters chyme in to this post but there hate should prove to you I am correct and you need to put your son in a better spot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 03:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fall ball is quickly coming to an end. All the kids that play football will be back. And Club blue(cheater hold backs) will be on top of Hoco again.
Elite
Club Blue king of the castle with the most hold backs
Crabs took a hit
BLC improved with new kids
Hawks solid
Next Level only team with NO HOLDBACK
FCA improved
Looney's who knows
Madlax won't win a game should drop
AA
team 89+2 lax factory API south river cannons cavaliers(best team in Virginia can't hang with any elite teams) PG this will be a fun bracket. Good luck to all



I agree; Fall Tournaments are very difficult to judge for several reasons but I do agree Club Blue will still be the team to beat once they get the entire roster on the field. I was at the tournament in Columbia a few weeks ago and I th9ought FCA and NL stood out over the rest of the field. Crabs surely did not look like the same team from last year and Looney's looked big and aggressive but was slow and I impressed with ball their ball movement. If I were to rank the Elite teams based on the some of the lacrosse I saw this Fall my ranking would be:

FCA - much improved and well coached; strong at all key positions, FOGO is scrappy and attack is very strong. I felt they were the most complete team.
Hawks - excellent team; need help at the X. Strong Middie play and tough defensively. Hawks could be easily number 1 as well
NL - great team all around but seemed to be inconsistent from tournament to tournament. Strong at the X and fast. Depending on which team shows up they could beat anyone in the elite division.
Crabs - just because they're crabs and I can not see them falling much further than this; in fact I would not be surprised if they ended up the top team at the end of the year. Strong Goalie play and the attack is still their strength. I believe I saw to FOGO's and both were decent.
Club Blue - see above comment. I have to believe they are missing players this Fall. They looked very mediocre against average competition this past weekend; very poor play at the X.
BLC - I think this team may end up surprising a few team this year. A lot of talent with very strong attack play.
Looney's - I was not impressed with this team but I know they acquired some talent from Crabs and my guess is they will be somewhat stronger in the Spring. I just don't think they can compete with the truly elite teams (Top 3-4) above them. I like their attack play.
Madlax - This team may need to move to AA, but who replaces them? VLC I think looked the best of the AA teams and could compete against the lower tiered Elite Teams

Again tough to really know at this time of the year but this is what I saw over the past 4 weeks. And in case you are wondering I am a BLC parent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 03:16 PM
What is PG?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 06:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fall ball is quickly coming to an end. All the kids that play football will be back. And Club blue(cheater hold backs) will be on top of Hoco again.
Elite
Club Blue king of the castle with the most hold backs
Crabs took a hit
BLC improved with new kids
Hawks solid
Next Level only team with NO HOLDBACK
FCA improved
Looney's who knows
Madlax won't win a game should drop
AA
team 89+2 lax factory API south river cannons cavaliers(best team in Virginia can't hang with any elite teams) PG this will be a fun bracket. Good luck to all



I agree; Fall Tournaments are very difficult to judge for several reasons but I do agree Club Blue will still be the team to beat once they get the entire roster on the field. I was at the tournament in Columbia a few weeks ago and I th9ought FCA and NL stood out over the rest of the field. Crabs surely did not look like the same team from last year and Looney's looked big and aggressive but was slow and I impressed with ball their ball movement. If I were to rank the Elite teams based on the some of the lacrosse I saw this Fall my ranking would be:

FCA - much improved and well coached; strong at all key positions, FOGO is scrappy and attack is very strong. I felt they were the most complete team.
Hawks - excellent team; need help at the X. Strong Middie play and tough defensively. Hawks could be easily number 1 as well
NL - great team all around but seemed to be inconsistent from tournament to tournament. Strong at the X and fast. Depending on which team shows up they could beat anyone in the elite division.
Crabs - just because they're crabs and I can not see them falling much further than this; in fact I would not be surprised if they ended up the top team at the end of the year. Strong Goalie play and the attack is still their strength. I believe I saw to FOGO's and both were decent.
Club Blue - see above comment. I have to believe they are missing players this Fall. They looked very mediocre against average competition this past weekend; very poor play at the X.
BLC - I think this team may end up surprising a few team this year. A lot of talent with very strong attack play.
Looney's - I was not impressed with this team but I know they acquired some talent from Crabs and my guess is they will be somewhat stronger in the Spring. I just don't think they can compete with the truly elite teams (Top 3-4) above them. I like their attack play.
Madlax - This team may need to move to AA, but who replaces them? VLC I think looked the best of the AA teams and could compete against the lower tiered Elite Teams

Again tough to really know at this time of the year but this is what I saw over the past 4 weeks. And in case you are wondering I am a BLC parent.


Strong commitment to go to Columbia few Sundays ago to watch kids lacrosse when your sons team wasn't playing. I think the teams are all pretty close. Looney's beat CB in regular season and I think beat NL and FCA in summer play. So they shoul compete especially since they added some of the Crabs players. It will be interesting to see how they set up the top division. If they just have Crabs, FCA, CB, NL, BLC, HAwks & Looneys in elite -- all team play each other in reg season and all should be competitive. Madlax, 91, VLC, South River, Cavalier, API, Lax Factory maybe a good 7 team AA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 06:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fall ball is quickly coming to an end. All the kids that play football will be back. And Club blue(cheater hold backs) will be on top of Hoco again.
Elite
Club Blue king of the castle with the most hold backs
Crabs took a hit
BLC improved with new kids
Hawks solid
Next Level only team with NO HOLDBACK
FCA improved
Looney's who knows
Madlax won't win a game should drop
AA
team 89+2 lax factory API south river cannons cavaliers(best team in Virginia can't hang with any elite teams) PG this will be a fun bracket. Good luck to all



I agree; Fall Tournaments are very difficult to judge for several reasons but I do agree Club Blue will still be the team to beat once they get the entire roster on the field. I was at the tournament in Columbia a few weeks ago and I th9ought FCA and NL stood out over the rest of the field. Crabs surely did not look like the same team from last year and Looney's looked big and aggressive but was slow and I impressed with ball their ball movement. If I were to rank the Elite teams based on the some of the lacrosse I saw this Fall my ranking would be:

FCA - much improved and well coached; strong at all key positions, FOGO is scrappy and attack is very strong. I felt they were the most complete team.
Hawks - excellent team; need help at the X. Strong Middie play and tough defensively. Hawks could be easily number 1 as well
NL - great team all around but seemed to be inconsistent from tournament to tournament. Strong at the X and fast. Depending on which team shows up they could beat anyone in the elite division.
Crabs - just because they're crabs and I can not see them falling much further than this; in fact I would not be surprised if they ended up the top team at the end of the year. Strong Goalie play and the attack is still their strength. I believe I saw to FOGO's and both were decent.
Club Blue - see above comment. I have to believe they are missing players this Fall. They looked very mediocre against average competition this past weekend; very poor play at the X.
BLC - I think this team may end up surprising a few team this year. A lot of talent with very strong attack play.
Looney's - I was not impressed with this team but I know they acquired some talent from Crabs and my guess is they will be somewhat stronger in the Spring. I just don't think they can compete with the truly elite teams (Top 3-4) above them. I like their attack play.
Madlax - This team may need to move to AA, but who replaces them? VLC I think looked the best of the AA teams and could compete against the lower tiered Elite Teams

Again tough to really know at this time of the year but this is what I saw over the past 4 weeks. And in case you are wondering I am a BLC parent.


1. Crabs (I am biased) - their FOGO is dominant and they have great attack play - even with the loss of their 9th grade righty.
2. Hawks - If this team gets better at X, they can win HoCo - they could also miss the playoff (again) if they don't find someone better than what they have. They have the highest end talent - best defender, best LSM, best goalie, best attackman.
3. Club Blue - I agree with the above... they have to be missing some kids
FCA/Looney's/and especially NL cannot compete consistently with the teams above.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calling all 2023 kids who are good but not happy with your team!! Madlax has 3 tryouts a year go to the website and sign up for the Spring tryouts. There 2023 team is not good at this time but this team will be playing at all the top events and in front of all the top college coaches. During the next 5 years. No one on here can argue the fact that Madlax will be at the best tournaments. If you are smart this is the prefect grade and time to come to a Madlax team. I promise you other good players from the Cavs and other B level teams will be at these spring and summer tryouts . Get in now. I will sit back and let the Madlax hatters chyme in to this post but there hate should prove to you I am correct and you need to put your son in a better spot.


I am not a Madlax hater and do not have a 2023 age son. I do hate this post for many reasons. First, if you are a parent or part of Madlax why are you saying this team is not good? Compared to what? What message does this send? Invite kids to come because the kids we have are terrible? Why would any kid want to join that? If you are a B level player we can play in high level tournaments that you will not win, but a coach may recruit you blindly? I am not sure if you are a parent or work for the business which is Madlax, either way you are doing any parent a disservice with this advice and do not have a clue how college recruiting works. College coaches do attend top tournaments. However, if you are on a bad team that is playing poorly how will that help? Coaches do not find players, they watch players they already have on a list. If a player is interested in a school, the camp and prospect day is still the best bet. Get good grades, email the coaches. They may not respond but the will check the message and may look out for you at a tournament send them your tournament schedule. UA, Brine, Warrior also provide chances to play to an audience of college coaches. The best thing a player can do is market themselves to schools they want to attend and get good grades. My last point and the item that bothers me the most about this post is the idea that one should only play for a team to get noticed by a college coach. Kids should play for a club because it is fun. If Madlax is not competitive at a AA level maybe play in a few lower tournaments from time to time for the kids to have fun. If you think club lacrosse is some sort of future investment you are doing it wrong. Madlax will not get a player recruited the play on the field will. How about join Madlax because we have great coaches who will help develop a player to be the best he can in a competitive environment, make new friends, and prepare to make your HS team. In addition it is "their" 2023 team not "there" 2023 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 08:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fall ball is quickly coming to an end. All the kids that play football will be back. And Club blue(cheater hold backs) will be on top of Hoco again.
Elite
Club Blue king of the castle with the most hold backs
Crabs took a hit
BLC improved with new kids
Hawks solid
Next Level only team with NO HOLDBACK
FCA improved
Looney's who knows
Madlax won't win a game should drop
AA
team 89+2 lax factory API south river cannons cavaliers(best team in Virginia can't hang with any elite teams) PG this will be a fun bracket. Good luck to all



I agree; Fall Tournaments are very difficult to judge for several reasons but I do agree Club Blue will still be the team to beat once they get the entire roster on the field. I was at the tournament in Columbia a few weeks ago and I th9ought FCA and NL stood out over the rest of the field. Crabs surely did not look like the same team from last year and Looney's looked big and aggressive but was slow and I impressed with ball their ball movement. If I were to rank the Elite teams based on the some of the lacrosse I saw this Fall my ranking would be:

FCA - much improved and well coached; strong at all key positions, FOGO is scrappy and attack is very strong. I felt they were the most complete team.
Hawks - excellent team; need help at the X. Strong Middie play and tough defensively. Hawks could be easily number 1 as well
NL - great team all around but seemed to be inconsistent from tournament to tournament. Strong at the X and fast. Depending on which team shows up they could beat anyone in the elite division.
Crabs - just because they're crabs and I can not see them falling much further than this; in fact I would not be surprised if they ended up the top team at the end of the year. Strong Goalie play and the attack is still their strength. I believe I saw to FOGO's and both were decent.
Club Blue - see above comment. I have to believe they are missing players this Fall. They looked very mediocre against average competition this past weekend; very poor play at the X.
BLC - I think this team may end up surprising a few team this year. A lot of talent with very strong attack play.
Looney's - I was not impressed with this team but I know they acquired some talent from Crabs and my guess is they will be somewhat stronger in the Spring. I just don't think they can compete with the truly elite teams (Top 3-4) above them. I like their attack play.
Madlax - This team may need to move to AA, but who replaces them? VLC I think looked the best of the AA teams and could compete against the lower tiered Elite Teams

Again tough to really know at this time of the year but this is what I saw over the past 4 weeks. And in case you are wondering I am a BLC parent.


1. Crabs (I am biased) - their FOGO is dominant and they have great attack play - even with the loss of their 9th grade righty.
2. Hawks - If this team gets better at X, they can win HoCo - they could also miss the playoff (again) if they don't find someone better than what they have. They have the highest end talent - best defender, best LSM, best goalie, best attackman.
3. Club Blue - I agree with the above... they have to be missing some kids
FCA/Looney's/and especially NL cannot compete consistently with the teams above.


Obviously you did not see FCA and NL beat the CRABS Team a few weeks ago; this team is far from where they were last year. And if I am not mistaken the Kid that is not a FOGO is much better than their FOGO and I would not call him dominant. This has the making of a FLatBrim post. lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 09:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calling all 2023 kids who are good but not happy with your team!! Madlax has 3 tryouts a year go to the website and sign up for the Spring tryouts. There 2023 team is not good at this time but this team will be playing at all the top events and in front of all the top college coaches. During the next 5 years. No one on here can argue the fact that Madlax will be at the best tournaments. If you are smart this is the prefect grade and time to come to a Madlax team. I promise you other good players from the Cavs and other B level teams will be at these spring and summer tryouts . Get in now. I will sit back and let the Madlax hatters chyme in to this post but there hate should prove to you I am correct and you need to put your son in a better spot.


I am not a Madlax hater and do not have a 2023 age son. I do hate this post for many reasons. First, if you are a parent or part of Madlax why are you saying this team is not good? Compared to what? What message does this send? Invite kids to come because the kids we have are terrible? Why would any kid want to join that? If you are a B level player we can play in high level tournaments that you will not win, but a coach may recruit you blindly? I am not sure if you are a parent or work for the business which is Madlax, either way you are doing any parent a disservice with this advice and do not have a clue how college recruiting works. College coaches do attend top tournaments. However, if you are on a bad team that is playing poorly how will that help? Coaches do not find players, they watch players they already have on a list. If a player is interested in a school, the camp and prospect day is still the best bet. Get good grades, email the coaches. They may not respond but the will check the message and may look out for you at a tournament send them your tournament schedule. UA, Brine, Warrior also provide chances to play to an audience of college coaches. The best thing a player can do is market themselves to schools they want to attend and get good grades. My last point and the item that bothers me the most about this post is the idea that one should only play for a team to get noticed by a college coach. Kids should play for a club because it is fun. If Madlax is not competitive at a AA level maybe play in a few lower tournaments from time to time for the kids to have fun. If you think club lacrosse is some sort of future investment you are doing it wrong. Madlax will not get a player recruited the play on the field will. How about join Madlax because we have great coaches who will help develop a player to be the best he can in a competitive environment, make new friends, and prepare to make your HS team. In addition it is "their" 2023 team not "there" 2023 team.

Another troll. No way a Madlax parent or staff wrote the initial post. Author just taking a cheap shot at Madlax. Unlike 2024, 2023 is not winning tournaments. They went 2-4 in HOCO Elite last year and this year will be similar. 2023 is a few players away especially on the defensive half. The original poster is likely an ex-Madlax dad trying to cause trouble and make himself feel better about the decision to move. A program like Madlax does not need to advertise in the fashion above.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fall ball is quickly coming to an end. All the kids that play football will be back. And Club blue(cheater hold backs) will be on top of Hoco again.
Elite
Club Blue king of the castle with the most hold backs
Crabs took a hit
BLC improved with new kids
Hawks solid
Next Level only team with NO HOLDBACK
FCA improved
Looney's who knows
Madlax won't win a game should drop
AA
team 89+2 lax factory API south river cannons cavaliers(best team in Virginia can't hang with any elite teams) PG this will be a fun bracket. Good luck to all



I agree; Fall Tournaments are very difficult to judge for several reasons but I do agree Club Blue will still be the team to beat once they get the entire roster on the field. I was at the tournament in Columbia a few weeks ago and I th9ought FCA and NL stood out over the rest of the field. Crabs surely did not look like the same team from last year and Looney's looked big and aggressive but was slow and I impressed with ball their ball movement. If I were to rank the Elite teams based on the some of the lacrosse I saw this Fall my ranking would be:

FCA - much improved and well coached; strong at all key positions, FOGO is scrappy and attack is very strong. I felt they were the most complete team.
Hawks - excellent team; need help at the X. Strong Middie play and tough defensively. Hawks could be easily number 1 as well
NL - great team all around but seemed to be inconsistent from tournament to tournament. Strong at the X and fast. Depending on which team shows up they could beat anyone in the elite division.
Crabs - just because they're crabs and I can not see them falling much further than this; in fact I would not be surprised if they ended up the top team at the end of the year. Strong Goalie play and the attack is still their strength. I believe I saw to FOGO's and both were decent.
Club Blue - see above comment. I have to believe they are missing players this Fall. They looked very mediocre against average competition this past weekend; very poor play at the X.
BLC - I think this team may end up surprising a few team this year. A lot of talent with very strong attack play.
Looney's - I was not impressed with this team but I know they acquired some talent from Crabs and my guess is they will be somewhat stronger in the Spring. I just don't think they can compete with the truly elite teams (Top 3-4) above them. I like their attack play.
Madlax - This team may need to move to AA, but who replaces them? VLC I think looked the best of the AA teams and could compete against the lower tiered Elite Teams

Again tough to really know at this time of the year but this is what I saw over the past 4 weeks. And in case you are wondering I am a BLC parent.


1. Crabs (I am biased) - their FOGO is dominant and they have great attack play - even with the loss of their 9th grade righty.
2. Hawks - If this team gets better at X, they can win HoCo - they could also miss the playoff (again) if they don't find someone better than what they have. They have the highest end talent - best defender, best LSM, best goalie, best attackman.
3. Club Blue - I agree with the above... they have to be missing some kids
FCA/Looney's/and especially NL cannot compete consistently with the teams above.


Unless Crabs plan on bringing some HOLDBACKS in I don't see them as a threat moving forward. GO HAWKS!! #ourfogoisbetterthanyours
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 04:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calling all 2023 kids who are good but not happy with your team!! Madlax has 3 tryouts a year go to the website and sign up for the Spring tryouts. There 2023 team is not good at this time but this team will be playing at all the top events and in front of all the top college coaches. During the next 5 years. No one on here can argue the fact that Madlax will be at the best tournaments. If you are smart this is the prefect grade and time to come to a Madlax team. I promise you other good players from the Cavs and other B level teams will be at these spring and summer tryouts . Get in now. I will sit back and let the Madlax haters chyme in to this post but there hate should prove to you I am correct and you need to put your son in a better spot.


I am not a Madlax hater and do not have a 2023 age son. I do hate this post for many reasons. First, if you are a parent or part of Madlax why are you saying this team is not good? Compared to what? What message does this send? Invite kids to come because the kids we have are terrible? Why would any kid want to join that? If you are a B level player we can play in high level tournaments that you will not win, but a coach may recruit you blindly? I am not sure if you are a parent or work for the business which is Madlax, either way you are doing any parent a disservice with this advice and do not have a clue how college recruiting works. College coaches do attend top tournaments. However, if you are on a bad team that is playing poorly how will that help? Coaches do not find players, they watch players they already have on a list. If a player is interested in a school, the camp and prospect day is still the best bet. Get good grades, email the coaches. They may not respond but they will check the message and may look out for you at a tournament so send them your tournament schedule. UA, Brine, Warrior also provide chances to play to an audience of college coaches. The best thing a player can do is market themselves to schools they want to attend and get good grades. My last point and the item that bothers me the most about this post is the idea that one should only play for a team to get noticed by a college coach. Kids should play for a club because it is fun. If Madlax is not competitive at a AA level maybe play in a few lower tournaments from time to time for the kids to have fun. If you think club lacrosse is some sort of future investment you are doing it wrong. Madlax will not get a player recruited, the play on the field will. How about join Madlax because we have great coaches who will help develop a player to be the best he can in a competitive environment, make new friends, and prepare to make your HS team. In addition it is "their" 2023 team not "there" 2023 team.

Another troll. No way a Madlax parent or staff wrote the initial post. Author just taking a cheap shot at Madlax. Unlike 2024, 2023 is not winning tournaments. They went 2-4 in HOCO Elite last year and this year will be similar. 2023 is a few players away especially on the defensive half. The original poster is likely an ex-Madlax dad trying to cause trouble and make himself feel better about the decision to move. A program like Madlax does not need to advertise in the fashion above.



Wrong. He IS a Madlax dad. He is in love with Madlax and has been posting on this board for years. He is honest, though, and recognizes that Madlax 2023 is not very good. He loves the owner and is obsessed with defending Madlax, even as their teams are declining.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 12:19 PM
The reason why Madlax 2023 team stinks is because their best 2023's are playing on their 2024 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 02:16 PM
Madlax not the only game in town anymore. VLC Blackwolf Cavaliers Evergreen Club Blue Va Team6 Top Caliber. Revolving door of coaches at madlax who are average at best. Madlax is just a Dinosaur
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 02:20 PM
Not true - those are very good 2023s, but their 2 best 2023's play for other clubs now (Crabs and Club Blue).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 02:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax not the only game in town anymore. VLC Blackwolf Cavaliers Evergreen Club Blue Va Team6 Top Caliber. Revolving door of coaches at madlax who are average at best. Madlax is just a Dinosaur

Please let me know in 4 years when all the talent is spread out over all these 8 teams. This many teams just makes the parents job 3 times as hard with picking a team and worrying about 4 to 6 kids jumping clubs at the last second and leaving your kid on a crappy team. Ask anyone with a AAU basketball player your team name and roster changes more then your underwear.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 02:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calling all 2023 kids who are good but not happy with your team!! Madlax has 3 tryouts a year go to the website and sign up for the Spring tryouts. There 2023 team is not good at this time but this team will be playing at all the top events and in front of all the top college coaches. During the next 5 years. No one on here can argue the fact that Madlax will be at the best tournaments. If you are smart this is the prefect grade and time to come to a Madlax team. I promise you other good players from the Cavs and other B level teams will be at these spring and summer tryouts . Get in now. I will sit back and let the Madlax haters chyme in to this post but there hate should prove to you I am correct and you need to put your son in a better spot.


I am not a Madlax hater and do not have a 2023 age son. I do hate this post for many reasons. First, if you are a parent or part of Madlax why are you saying this team is not good? Compared to what? What message does this send? Invite kids to come because the kids we have are terrible? Why would any kid want to join that? If you are a B level player we can play in high level tournaments that you will not win, but a coach may recruit you blindly? I am not sure if you are a parent or work for the business which is Madlax, either way you are doing any parent a disservice with this advice and do not have a clue how college recruiting works. College coaches do attend top tournaments. However, if you are on a bad team that is playing poorly how will that help? Coaches do not find players, they watch players they already have on a list. If a player is interested in a school, the camp and prospect day is still the best bet. Get good grades, email the coaches. They may not respond but the will check the message and may look out for you at a tournament so send them your tournament schedule. UA, Brine, Warrior also provide chances to play to an audience of college coaches. The best thing a player can do is market themselves to schools they want to attend and get good grades. My last point and the item that bothers me the most about this post is the idea that one should only play for a team to get noticed by a college coach. Kids should play for a club because it is fun. If Madlax is not competitive at a AA level maybe play in a few lower tournaments from time to time for the kids to have fun. If you think club lacrosse is some sort of future investment you are doing it wrong. Madlax will not get a player recruited the play on the field will. How about join Madlax because we have a great coaches who will help develop a player to be the best he can in a competitive environment, make new friends, and prepare to make your HS team. In addition it is "their" 2023 team not "there" 2023 team.

Another troll. No way a Madlax parent or staff wrote the initial post. Author just taking a cheap shot at Madlax. Unlike 2024, 2023 is not winning tournaments. They went 2-4 in HOCO Elite last year and this year will be similar. 2023 is a few players away especially on the defensive half. The original poster is likely an ex-Madlax dad trying to cause trouble and make himself feel better about the decision to move. A program like Madlax does not need to advertise in the fashion above.



Wrong. He IS a Madlax dad. He is in love with Madlax and has been posting on this board for years. He is honest, though, and recognizes that Madlax 2023 is not very good. He loves the owner and is obsessed with defending Madlax, even as their teams are declining.

The issue I have with the comment is the idea that Madlax is "not good" and new kids should go there. This is fine if a competitor or parent of another team makes a comment, that is what this board is all about. However, what are we comparing Madlax to? Are they not a top team in NOVA? How about the idea of trying to make the team better instead of recruiting new players? what does that say to the players who are there? For that matter I always hate the "we are missing players" excuse used by them and other clubs like CB. I know these are simply random internet comments and hopefully mean nothing but I do hope coaches and parents do not express this to young men. You win and loose with the players you have. Life lessons are far more important than middle schools wins and losses at random fall tournaments. However, I understand the big issue is that some of these teams are now a business and maybe they business reputation and future business at stake is more important than helping young men develop? If this message was by a supporter of MadLax that would be reason for me to stay far away from this program. Profit motive and youth sports do not mix.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 02:50 PM
Sounds more like same person having a conversation with himself. When BOTC did not allow Anonymous posts, notice how everything got quiet and you did not see these one-man threads against Madlax, Crabs, MM or whatever disfavored cause of the day. While entertaining at first, tiresome and repetitive over time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calling all 2023 kids who are good but not happy with your team!! Madlax has 3 tryouts a year go to the website and sign up for the Spring tryouts. There 2023 team is not good at this time but this team will be playing at all the top events and in front of all the top college coaches. During the next 5 years. No one on here can argue the fact that Madlax will be at the best tournaments. If you are smart this is the prefect grade and time to come to a Madlax team. I promise you other good players from the Cavs and other B level teams will be at these spring and summer tryouts . Get in now. I will sit back and let the Madlax hatters chyme in to this post but there hate should prove to you I am correct and you need to put your son in a better spot.


I am not a Madlax hater and do not have a 2023 age son. I do hate this post for many reasons. First, if you are a parent or part of Madlax why are you saying this team is not good? Compared to what? What message does this send? Invite kids to come because the kids we have are terrible? Why would any kid want to join that? If you are a B level player we can play in high level tournaments that you will not win, but a coach may recruit you blindly? I am not sure if you are a parent or work for the business which is Madlax, either way you are doing any parent a disservice with this advice and do not have a clue how college recruiting works. College coaches do attend top tournaments. However, if you are on a bad team that is playing poorly how will that help? Coaches do not find players, they watch players they already have on a list. If a player is interested in a school, the camp and prospect day is still the best bet. Get good grades, email the coaches. They may not respond but the will check the message and may look out for you at a tournament send them your tournament schedule. UA, Brine, Warrior also provide chances to play to an audience of college coaches. The best thing a player can do is market themselves to schools they want to attend and get good grades. My last point and the item that bothers me the most about this post is the idea that one should only play for a team to get noticed by a college coach. Kids should play for a club because it is fun. If Madlax is not competitive at a AA level maybe play in a few lower tournaments from time to time for the kids to have fun. If you think club lacrosse is some sort of future investment you are doing it wrong. Madlax will not get a player recruited the play on the field will. How about join Madlax because we have a great coaches who will help develop a player to be the best he can in a competitive environment, make new friends, and prepare to make your HS team. In addition it is "their" 2023 team not "there" 2023 team.

Another troll. No way a Madlax parent or staff wrote the initial post. Author just taking a cheap shot at Madlax. Unlike 2024, 2023 is not winning tournaments. They went 2-4 in HOCO Elite last year and this year will be similar. 2023 is a few players away especially on the defensive half. The original poster is likely an ex-Madlax dad trying to cause trouble and make himself feel better about the decision to move. A program like Madlax does not need to advertise in the fashion above.


Wrong. He IS a Madlax dad. He is in love with Madlax and has been posting on this board for years. He is honest, though, and recognizes that Madlax 2023 is not very good. He loves the owner and is obsessed with defending Madlax, even as their teams are declining.

The issue I have with the comment is the idea that Madlax is "not good" and new kids should go there. This is fine if a competitor or parent of another team makes a comment, that is what this board is all about. However, what are we comparing Madlax to? Are they not a top team in NOVA? How about the idea of trying to make the team better instead of recruiting new players? what does that say to the players who are there? For that matter I always hate the "we are missing players" excuse used by them and other clubs like CB. I know these are simply random internet comments and hopefully mean nothing but I do hope coaches and parents do not express this to young men. You win and loose with the players you have. Life lessons are far more important than middle schools wins and losses at random fall tournaments. However, I understand the big issue is that some of these teams are now a business and maybe they business reputation and future business at stake is more important than helping young men develop? If this message was by a supporter of MadLax that would be reason for me to stay far away from this program. Profit motive and youth sports do not mix.

Does anyone actually believe anyone associated with Madlax would try to recruit players with such a stupid post? Obviously, the author has an axe to grind and is intentionally trying to bring on the hate.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 04:30 PM
Funny to see someone talk about "life lesson" and Madlax in the same sentence.

https://deadspin.com/hey-ungrateful-quitter-emails-from-an-angry-lacrosse-660703941
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny to see someone talk about "life lesson" and Madlax in the same sentence.

https://deadspin.com/hey-ungrateful-quitter-emails-from-an-angry-lacrosse-660703941


4 years ago..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 05:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny to see someone talk about "life lesson" and Madlax in the same sentence.

https://deadspin.com/hey-ungrateful-quitter-emails-from-an-angry-lacrosse-660703941

Don't forget ...

... background check for BW owner, i don't like flat brim, holdbacks are unfair, crabs has lots of holdbacks, fca kids are jerks despite the acronym, MM ruins every club he goes to, looneys moms - yuk, evergreen rules, minute-by-minute developments on the hawks roster, Team 91 Md stinks, Madlax stinks, NL is on age, Dukes has half a dozen kids who look like they are in high school but Dukes parent says they only miss cutoff by a week, etc. ...

There, I saved new readers from having to read 75% of the posts on BOTC.

Find some new material please.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny to see someone talk about "life lesson" and Madlax in the same sentence.

https://deadspin.com/hey-ungrateful-quitter-emails-from-an-angry-lacrosse-660703941


Date from this article is 7/2013
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny to see someone talk about "life lesson" and Madlax in the same sentence.

https://deadspin.com/hey-ungrateful-quitter-emails-from-an-angry-lacrosse-660703941


Date from this article is 7/2013



Which makes no difference because the owner is still the same owner and he hasn't changed. Good to know you don't care if he threatens kids and their parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 08:58 PM
Looks like the only Box League option this year in Baltimore is Premier Series Lacrosse box league being run out of Myers Pavilion. I think they are stil looking for a team signup and some individual sign ups.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 09:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny to see someone talk about "life lesson" and Madlax in the same sentence.

https://deadspin.com/hey-ungrateful-quitter-emails-from-an-angry-lacrosse-660703941

Don't forget ...

... background check for BW owner, i don't like flat brim, holdbacks are unfair, crabs has lots of holdbacks, fca kids are jerks despite the acronym, MM ruins every club he goes to, looneys moms - yuk, evergreen rules, minute-by-minute developments on the hawks roster, Team 91 Md stinks, Madlax stinks, NL is on age, Dukes has half a dozen kids who look like they are in high school but Dukes parent says they only miss cutoff by a week, etc. ...

There, I saved new readers from having to read 75% of the posts on BOTC.

Find some new material please.



As long as it's not your kid and family, eh? Pathetic just like the owner.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 10:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny to see someone talk about "life lesson" and Madlax in the same sentence.

https://deadspin.com/hey-ungrateful-quitter-emails-from-an-angry-lacrosse-660703941

Don't forget ...

... background check for BW owner, i don't like flat brim, holdbacks are unfair, crabs has lots of holdbacks, fca kids are not polite despite the acronym, MM ruins every club he goes to, looneys moms - yuk, evergreen rules, minute-by-minute developments on the hawks roster, Team 91 Md stinks, Madlax stinks, NL is on age, Dukes has half a dozen kids who look like they are in high school but Dukes parent says they only miss cutoff by a week, etc. ...

There, I saved new readers from having to read 75% of the posts on BOTC.

Find some new material please.


I don't mind the posts because it's really easy to skim read but your summary is well done!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 01:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny to see someone talk about "life lesson" and Madlax in the same sentence.

https://deadspin.com/hey-ungrateful-quitter-emails-from-an-angry-lacrosse-660703941

Don't forget ...

... background check for BW owner, i don't like flat brim, holdbacks are unfair, crabs has lots of holdbacks, fca kids are jerks despite the acronym, MM ruins every club he goes to, looneys moms - yuk, evergreen rules, minute-by-minute developments on the hawks roster, Team 91 Md stinks, Madlax stinks, NL is on age, Dukes has half a dozen kids who look like they are in high school but Dukes parent says they only miss cutoff by a week, etc. ...

There, I saved new readers from having to read 75% of the posts on BOTC.

Find some new material please.


^^ this guy gets it. Fantastic post!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 02:34 PM
Any good match up's this weekend at 2023?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 03:42 PM
kinda takes the fun out of it...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 05:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any good match up's this weekend at 2023?


Club Blue vs Hawks
Hawks vs 91
91 vs Club Blue

All at Fall Brawl. South River is also playing - let's see if they should be an A or AA squad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 05:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any good match up's this weekend at 2023?


Club Blue vs Hawks
Hawks vs 91
91 vs Club Blue

All at Fall Brawl. South River is also playing - let's see if they should be an A or AA squad.

Last week 91 defeated Club Blue it will be interesting to see if the "five missing players" will change the outcome. I think Hawks as step above both.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 05:32 PM
Autumn Classic - Crabs, VLC, Lax Factory
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 06:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any good match up's this weekend at 2023?


Club Blue vs Hawks
Hawks vs 91
91 vs Club Blue

All at Fall Brawl. South River is also playing - let's see if they should be an A or AA squad.

Last week 91 defeated Club Blue it will be interesting to see if the "five missing players" will change the outcome. I think Hawks as step above both.


91 vs Club Blue NOVA not the HoCo champ Club Blue MD team they beat last week
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Autumn Classic - Crabs, VLC, Lax Factory



Autumn Classic used to be a good tournament. Guess Aloha took over and it all went down hill since then.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 07:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny to see someone talk about "life lesson" and Madlax in the same sentence.

https://deadspin.com/hey-ungrateful-quitter-emails-from-an-angry-lacrosse-660703941

Don't forget ...

... background check for BW owner, i don't like flat brim, holdbacks are unfair, crabs has lots of holdbacks, fca kids are _ despite the acronym, MM ruins every club he goes to, looneys moms - yuk, evergreen rules, minute-by-minute developments on the hawks roster, Team 91 Md stinks, Madlax stinks, NL is on age, Dukes has half a dozen kids who look like they are in high school but Dukes parent says they only miss cutoff by a week, etc. ...

There, I saved new readers from having to read 75% of the posts on BOTC.

Find some new material please.


You forgot "daddy ball" for the "RN" Hawks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/11/17 03:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Autumn Classic - Crabs, VLC, Lax Factory



Autumn Classic used to be a good tournament. Guess Aloha took over and it all went down hill since then.


When it was the NPYLL Autumn Classic, it was the best of the season. When NPYLL went away, so did the tournament.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/11/17 03:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the only Box League option this year in Baltimore is Premier Series Lacrosse box league being run out of Myers Pavilion. I think they are stil looking for a team signup and some individual sign ups.



The PSL league looks great for Box lacrosse in Baltimore for teams and individuals.

Frederick has the FILL league
Rockville has the DMV Premier league
Dulles, VA has the CBLL
All are great options for kids that want to play some real box.

They are starting soon, so kids and teams need to sign up if they want to play now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/11/17 09:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Autumn Classic - Crabs, VLC, Lax Factory



Autumn Classic used to be a good tournament. Guess Aloha took over and it all went down hill since then.


When it was the NPYLL Autumn Classic, it was the best of the season. When NPYLL went away, so did the tournament.



Exactly. Some great teams and games a few years ago. No more. Looks like a B and C rec tournament now with just a few good teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/12/17 08:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Autumn Classic - Crabs, VLC, Lax Factory



Autumn Classic used to be a good tournament. Guess Aloha took over and it all went down hill since then.


Crabs missed playoffs of this tournament......hmmmmm......they definitely don't miss those kids that left.
Just can't help thinking HoCo season will be fun to watch. Talent at this age spread around.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 12:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Autumn Classic - Crabs, VLC, Lax Factory



Autumn Classic used to be a good tournament. Guess Aloha took over and it all went down hill since then.


Crabs missed playoffs of this tournament......hmmmmm......they definitely don't miss those kids that left.
Just can't help thinking HoCo season will be fun to watch. Talent at this age spread around.


Easy there girl... They didnt get in because they allowed 2 goals in two games instead of other team that allowed 1 in two games. Tiebreaker went to 1 goal team....
Hardly terrible. Look who won
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 01:16 AM
Tied Philadelphia Freedom
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 01:35 AM
HATERS will always HATE , genetics is a b*tch, must be something in the water , god forbid its hard work or dedication or being a student to the game , hard work beats talent EVERYDAY ALL DAY
J.d James
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 01:52 AM
Hawks went 3-0 against some actual competition
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 03:41 AM
Who won the Crabs semi's and finals?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 04:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who won the Crabs semi's and finals?

Sweetlax NY won the Autumn Classic. On Sat, at North America Lax, same Sweetlax team made the Semi's but lost to Club Blue by a couple goals.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 05:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who won the Crabs semi's and finals?

Sweetlax NY won the Autumn Classic. On Sat, at North America Lax, same Sweetlax team made the Semi's but lost to Club Blue by a couple goals.

Sweetlax lost twice on Saturday, losing to Club Blue in both opening round play and Semis.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 08:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks went 3-0 against some actual competition


Other then Club Blue; who has been horrendous this Fall, who did they play? The competition at the Fall Brawl was average at best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 10:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks went 3-0 against some actual competition


Hawks had one legitimate opponent. The other two were cupcakes. Nice try.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks went 3-0 against some actual competition


I was there... they looked good - but not against real competition.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 02:17 PM
Looking at Sunday EDGE goes 3-0 beats Sweetlax Fl yet they don't make the semi's and SL Fl does?? How does that happen
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 03:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking at Sunday EDGE goes 3-0 beats Sweetlax Fl yet they don't make the semi's and SL Fl does?? How does that happen



They probably had to leave because of flight plans.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking at Sunday EDGE goes 3-0 beats Sweetlax Fl yet they don't make the semi's and SL Fl does?? How does that happen

I'd be surprised if they actually flew given that the tournament was probably a 7-ish hour drive, but maybe. Regarding them not being in the playoffs, I heard that their teams were deemed ineligible because of grades/ages/something.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks went 3-0 against some actual competition


Other then Club Blue; who has been horrendous this Fall, who did they play? The competition at the Fall Brawl was average at best.


FYI, Club Blue did make it to the finals of the N. Am. Fall Invitational this weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking at Sunday EDGE goes 3-0 beats Sweetlax Fl yet they don't make the semi's and SL Fl does?? How does that happen


Heard something about them being DQed, but that might have just been in the 2024 division. Rumor was they had 8th graders on a 6th grade team so take all of this with a grain of salt.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking at Sunday EDGE goes 3-0 beats Sweetlax Fl yet they don't make the semi's and SL Fl does?? How does that happen


Heard something about them being DQed, but that might have just been in the 2024 division. Rumor was they had 8th graders on a 6th grade team so take all of this with a grain of salt.

What's the problem? It happens all the time. It's called double holdback (or a pre-first + holdback). Actually saw one this weekend whine and cry after a hard, very clean, stick check from an on-age defender. Baseball might be a better fit for him.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 11:26 PM
Crabs 2023 couldn't beat the teams in their rec league tourney this weekend??? Looks like Crabs 2023 unloaded this year, not reloaded, hmmm
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 11:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking at Sunday EDGE goes 3-0 beats Sweetlax Fl yet they don't make the semi's and SL Fl does?? How does that happen


Heard something about them being DQed, but that might have just been in the 2024 division. Rumor was they had 8th graders on a 6th grade team so take all of this with a grain of salt.

What's the problem? It happens all the time. It's called double holdback (or a pre-first + holdback). Actually saw one this weekend whine and cry after a hard, very clean, stick check from an on-age defender. Baseball might be a better fit for him.


Edge is notorious for playing down with their whole team. Total Garbage but Edge has been doing this for a while. Their justification is that the players will be doing a PG year after graduating HS, so let them play with the players they will be competing with first year in college. TOTAL BS , but Edge has been doing this for years.

Surprised this wasnt already mentioned ???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 11:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2023 couldn't beat the teams in their rec league tourney this weekend??? Looks like Crabs 2023 unloaded this year, not reloaded, hmmm

To be clear--the Crabs didn't lose a game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 02:41 PM
The poster said crabs could not beat the teams. They did not beat philly freedom. The point is the team has degraded significantly from last year and the year before.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 03:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The poster said crabs could not beat the teams. They did not beat philly freedom. The point is the team has degraded significantly from last year and the year before.

Yes and I'd take that to mean that they couldn't beat the rec league teams (HLC and Harvest) but Freedom, the one team they tied, is far from a rec league team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 04:07 PM
Freedom is a top 10-12 AA team at this age group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 04:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Freedom is a top 10-12 AA team at this age group.


Loaded with kids that play for the DUKES National Team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The poster said crabs could not beat the teams. They did not beat philly freedom. The point is the team has degraded significantly from last year and the year before.


Next year 2023 will be 8th grade. That is the year of holdbacks for 2022 that havent been held back. Or if the prefirst thing didnt work out. Go for another year back.

Crabs 2023 will be the one to beat next year,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 05:53 PM
Wow! I just spent way too much time reading this garbage and I'm embarrassed to be a part of this mess. Why so much hate? Who cares who the best team is? Is that really that important? Isn't the idea for kids this age to develop into the best players they can be and learn life skills like how to compete, sportsmanship, teamwork and learning how to win and lose with class and dignity. What kind of example are you setting for your children? Lacrosse is the ultimate team game. Does it make you feel better if your son is on a team with 3 amazing players and they win every tournament? Or if your team loses to that team with 3 studs, does it make you feel better to tear down the winning team because those 3 studs could possibly be hold backs? We are talking about 7th grade boys! My guess is that most of you have never played or know what it takes to play division 1 lacrosse or even competitive D3 lacrosse. And if your kid is any good, in 2 years he'll be in high school playing against kids that are 3-4 years older than him. What are we teaching our kids if when they lose, and all they hear about is that the other team cheated because they have hold backs. What ever happened to teaching your kid to learn from the loss and to pick themselves up and get back to work. Stop your crying and finger pointing. It's pathetic. Life isn't always fair and the sooner kids learn that the better off they will be in life, not just in sports. Stop coaching from the sidelines, stop crying to the refs, stop putting down other peoples kids and enjoy the moment. It will be over before you know it. There is no gold at the end of the rainbow. What is it that you are looking for? Is it the 1/4 scholarship offer? You already spent that savings in the club fees you've been paying and travel expenses. Does it make you feel like YOU accomplished something if your son succeeds in lacrosse? I just don't get it. I'm sure some [lacrosse] will be quick to rip me anonymously on here for this post. Have at it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 07:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! I just spent way too much time reading this garbage and I'm embarrassed to be a part of this mess. Why so much hate? Who cares who the best team is? Is that really that important? Isn't the idea for kids this age to develop into the best players they can be and learn life skills like how to compete, sportsmanship, teamwork and learning how to win and lose with class and dignity. What kind of example are you setting for your children? Lacrosse is the ultimate team game. Does it make you feel better if your son is on a team with 3 amazing players and they win every tournament? Or if your team loses to that team with 3 studs, does it make you feel better to tear down the winning team because those 3 studs could possibly be hold backs? We are talking about 7th grade boys! My guess is that most of you have never played or know what it takes to play division 1 lacrosse or even competitive D3 lacrosse. And if your kid is any good, in 2 years he'll be in high school playing against kids that are 3-4 years older than him. What are we teaching our kids if when they lose, and all they hear about is that the other team cheated because they have hold backs. What ever happened to teaching your kid to learn from the loss and to pick themselves up and get back to work. Stop your crying and finger pointing. It's pathetic. Life isn't always fair and the sooner kids learn that the better off they will be in life, not just in sports. Stop coaching from the sidelines, stop crying to the refs, stop putting down other peoples kids and enjoy the moment. It will be over before you know it. There is no gold at the end of the rainbow. What is it that you are looking for? Is it the 1/4 scholarship offer? You already spent that savings in the club fees you've been paying and travel expenses. Does it make you feel like YOU accomplished something if your son succeeds in lacrosse? I just don't get it. I'm sure some [lacrosse] will be quick to rip me anonymously on here for this post. Have at it.


Why respond to the trolls... you are making the assumption that they actually believe this stuff. Most of these posters are simply trying to get you worked up. I feel just like you... but this is my first post. I do admit to being addicted to reading the posts. Like watching terrible reality television. Go to a tournament - most parents are respectful on the sidelines although a few coach, whine, and officiate. Most understand that their kids are in it for the life lessons - although some are living vicariously through their children.
Don't waste your breath.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 08:37 PM
I couldn't agree more....ultimately they are boys (our boys) who love playing the game. We love to watch them get bigger and stronger. I'm on a team that is HATED by BOTC community and I too love to read these people complain about "holdbacks" "cheaters" . My son is a big boy. A defender but when they are lined up against the attackmen they seem to stand out like they are in high school or something. Once they get into highschool they will even out... we were in 7th grade once too
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/18/17 05:25 AM
Cavs 2023 ready to shock the world. HOCO 'ship or bust, baby! Smoking the competition and taking names.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs 2023 ready to shock the world. HOCO 'ship or bust, baby! Smoking the competition and taking names.

Will Cav's play in AA or Elite? Have they ever come close to beating an Elite team? They will do will in Double AA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/28/17 11:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs 2023 ready to shock the world. HOCO 'ship or bust, baby! Smoking the competition and taking names.

Will Cav's play in AA or Elite? Have they ever come close to beating an Elite team? They will do will in Double AA


Cavs were convincing winners in their bracket last year, they really should step up to ELITE and challenge themselves. 91 should be AA along with FCA white and Looney's green
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/29/17 12:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs 2023 ready to shock the world. HOCO 'ship or bust, baby! Smoking the competition and taking names.

Will Cav's play in AA or Elite? Have they ever come close to beating an Elite team? They will do will in Double AA


Cavs were convincing winners in their bracket last year, they really should step up to ELITE and challenge themselves. 91 should be AA along with FCA white and Looney's green

Fake news! Cav 2023 did not win the Division SR did. They are maybe the third best team in NOVA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/29/17 01:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs 2023 ready to shock the world. HOCO 'ship or bust, baby! Smoking the competition and taking names.

Will Cav's play in AA or Elite? Have they ever come close to beating an Elite team? They will do will in Double AA


Cavs were convincing winners in their bracket last year, they really should step up to ELITE and challenge themselves. 91 should be AA along with FCA white and Looney's green

Fake news! Cav 2023 did not win the Division SR did. They are maybe the third best team in NOVA


they won the title you didn't know about
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/04/17 09:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs 2023 ready to shock the world. HOCO 'ship or bust, baby! Smoking the competition and taking names.

Will Cav's play in AA or Elite? Have they ever come close to beating an Elite team? They will do will in Double AA


Cavs were convincing winners in their bracket last year, they really should step up to ELITE and challenge themselves. 91 should be AA along with FCA white and Looney's green

Fake news! Cav 2023 did not win the Division SR did. They are maybe the third best team in NOVA


they won the title you didn't know about

Heard bunch of Cavs and 3d 2023 kids are leaving for Evergreen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/04/17 11:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs 2023 ready to shock the world. HOCO 'ship or bust, baby! Smoking the competition and taking names.

Will Cav's play in AA or Elite? Have they ever come close to beating an Elite team? They will do will in Double AA


Cavs were convincing winners in their bracket last year, they really should step up to ELITE and challenge themselves. 91 should be AA along with FCA white and Looney's green

Fake news! Cav 2023 did not win the Division SR did. They are maybe the third best team in NOVA


they won the title you didn't know about

Heard bunch of Cavs and 3d 2023 kids are leaving for Evergreen.


I heard 88+3 has a sophomore.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/05/17 02:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs 2023 ready to shock the world. HOCO 'ship or bust, baby! Smoking the competition and taking names.

Will Cav's play in AA or Elite? Have they ever come close to beating an Elite team? They will do will in Double AA


Cavs were convincing winners in their bracket last year, they really should step up to ELITE and challenge themselves. 91 should be AA along with FCA white and Looney's green

Fake news! Cav 2023 did not win the Division SR did. They are maybe the third best team in NOVA


they won the title you didn't know about

Heard bunch of Cavs and 3d 2023 kids are leaving for Evergreen.

That was 2022 not 2023
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/05/17 03:49 AM
Cavs were convincing winners in their bracket last year, they really should step up to ELITE and challenge themselves. 91 should be AA along with FCA white and Looney's green
[/quote]
Fake news! Cav 2023 did not win the Division SR did. They are maybe the third best team in NOVA[/quote]

they won the title you didn't know about
[/quote]
Heard bunch of Cavs and 3d 2023 kids are leaving for Evergreen.[/quote]
That was 2022 not 2023[/quote]
No, this is new migration in addition to 2022.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/05/17 10:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs were convincing winners in their bracket last year, they really should step up to ELITE and challenge themselves. 91 should be AA along with FCA white and Looney's green

Fake news! Cav 2023 did not win the Division SR did. They are maybe the third best team in NOVA[/quote]

they won the title you didn't know about
[/quote]
Heard bunch of Cavs and 3d 2023 kids are leaving for Evergreen.[/quote]
That was 2022 not 2023[/quote]
No, this is new migration in addition to 2022.[/quote]
If this is the case CAV's will be better. They should move up to Elite and replace MadLax as top N.VA team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/06/17 09:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

If this is the case CAV's will be better. They should move up to Elite and replace MadLax as top N.VA team


VLC's 2023 team is the best in the DMV, followed by Madlax. Cavalier is a distant 3rd.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/06/17 11:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

If this is the case CAV's will be better. They should move up to Elite and replace MadLax as top N.VA team


VLC's 2023 team is the best in the DMV, followed by Madlax. Cavalier is a distant 3rd.

To be the best you have to beat the best. Cav’s have won every tournament since the spring. VLC is new and would have to prove it v Cav’s
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/06/17 11:59 PM
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 02:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.

VLC also beat MAdlax and 91 Md who are both on this list
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 05:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.

VLC also beat MAdlax and 91 Md who are both on this list

Madlax soundly beat VLC at the Maryland Invitational in October. VLC was lucky that it was only a 4 or 5 goal deficit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 11:10 AM
Hoco last year - looneys 2-4, madlax 2-4, 91 md 0-6
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 01:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.


Where are all the Top Maryland Teams like Crabs, Hawks and FCA? And how did Team 91 and Madlax get in this?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 02:01 PM
hoco predictions Elite 2023

blc 4-2
Next level 4-2
Hawks 4-2
crabs 3-3
club blue 3-3
Fca 3-3
Looneys 1-5
mad lax 0-6
NO cav"s
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.


Where are all the Top Maryland Teams like Crabs, Hawks and FCA? And how did Team 91 and Madlax get in this?

Crabs and FCA boycotted last year's 2022 Natl. Championship. Hawks and Madlax were in it. Millon runs it, so of course 91 MD will be involved. It was supposed to be 16 teams last year and they allowed more teams in and the competition from the bottom 4 or 5 teams wasn't so great.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.


Where are all the Top Maryland Teams like Crabs, Hawks and FCA? And how did Team 91 and Madlax get in this?


It's not a national championship
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 05:43 PM
kids are in summer camp who gives a RIP
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 05:44 PM
It should tell you something when none of the other TEAM 91 teams from NY, TX, NC, FL etc. are in MM's tournament... specifically the Bandits or Warriors.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 06:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.


Where are all the Top Maryland Teams like Crabs, Hawks and FCA? And how did Team 91 and Madlax get in this?

Crabs and FCA boycotted last year's 2022 Natl. Championship. Hawks and Madlax were in it. Millon runs it, so of course 91 MD will be involved. It was supposed to be 16 teams last year and they allowed more teams in and the competition from the bottom 4 or 5 teams wasn't so great.


FCA didn't boycott last year. Where do you guys come up with this stuff. It was the same weekend as the FCA Lacrosse camp that they run every year so they were unable to attend. Not sure why Crabs doesn't go other than they don't want to put money in MM's pockets.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 07:00 PM
Where's Igloo
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 07:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.


Where are all the Top Maryland Teams like Crabs, Hawks and FCA? And how did Team 91 and Madlax get in this?

Crabs and FCA boycotted last year's 2022 Natl. Championship. Hawks and Madlax were in it. Millon runs it, so of course 91 MD will be involved. It was supposed to be 16 teams last year and they allowed more teams in and the competition from the bottom 4 or 5 teams wasn't so great.


Crabs and FCA boycotted it because half of their teams weren't qualified due to age restrictions!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 08:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.


Where are all the Top Maryland Teams like Crabs, Hawks and FCA? And how did Team 91 and Madlax get in this?

Crabs and FCA boycotted last year's 2022 Natl. Championship. Hawks and Madlax were in it. Millon runs it, so of course 91 MD will be involved. It was supposed to be 16 teams last year and they allowed more teams in and the competition from the bottom 4 or 5 teams wasn't so great.


Crabs and FCA boycotted it because half of their teams weren't qualified due to age restrictions!


Hahaha. It's a grade based tournament you dolt. 91 MD and Hawks have a bunch of holdbacks too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 09:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.


Where are all the Top Maryland Teams like Crabs, Hawks and FCA? And how did Team 91 and Madlax get in this?

Crabs and FCA boycotted last year's 2022 Natl. Championship. Hawks and Madlax were in it. Millon runs it, so of course 91 MD will be involved. It was supposed to be 16 teams last year and they allowed more teams in and the competition from the bottom 4 or 5 teams wasn't so great.


Crabs and FCA boycotted it because half of their teams weren't qualified due to age restrictions!


Hahaha. It's a grade based tournament you dolt. 91 MD and Hawks have a bunch of holdbacks too.


I see, a bunch of 14 year old 7th graders
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 09:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.


Where are all the Top Maryland Teams like Crabs, Hawks and FCA? And how did Team 91 and Madlax get in this?

Crabs and FCA boycotted last year's 2022 Natl. Championship. Hawks and Madlax were in it. Millon runs it, so of course 91 MD will be involved. It was supposed to be 16 teams last year and they allowed more teams in and the competition from the bottom 4 or 5 teams wasn't so great.


Crabs and FCA have avoided all interactions with MD91 for the 2024 and 2022 teams for the last 2 years because MM loses it on the sidelines. They probably want their coaches to avoid the abuse and their players to avoid the poor example being set at the opposing bench. They have even backed out of other tournaments after finding out that MD91 signed up. They are not scared of the competition, Crabs literally hates MM and FCA is probably just attempting to apply a higher standard for their players and coaches. Cant really blame either. The tournament was great last year though. the top 10 teams were all very talented teams. Tournament was organized well. Expect tons of MD91 and Hawks players on the All-Tourney Team before it starts. But worth playing in.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 10:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.

VLC also beat MAdlax and 91 Md who are both on this list

Madlax soundly beat VLC at the Maryland Invitational in October. VLC was lucky that it was only a 4 or 5 goal deficit.



That was VLC 2023's first game ever and it was a 1 goal game at halftime. You obviously neglected to mention VLC won the rematch. Considering it was their first season ever together, I don't think you have much to crow about. Didn't Madlax 2023 go winless in their own tournament?

LOL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 11:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.


Where are all the Top Maryland Teams like Crabs, Hawks and FCA? And how did Team 91 and Madlax get in this?

Crabs and FCA boycotted last year's 2022 Natl. Championship. Hawks and Madlax were in it. Millon runs it, so of course 91 MD will be involved. It was supposed to be 16 teams last year and they allowed more teams in and the competition from the bottom 4 or 5 teams wasn't so great.


Crabs and FCA boycotted it because half of their teams weren't qualified due to age restrictions!


Hahaha. It's a grade based tournament you dolt. 91 MD and Hawks have a bunch of holdbacks too.


I see, a bunch of 14 year old 7th graders


Or, just another east coast tournament
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/08/17 01:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.


Where are all the Top Maryland Teams like Crabs, Hawks and FCA? And how did Team 91 and Madlax get in this?


It's not a national championship


"Break his arms" says it is!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/08/17 02:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.

Where are all the Top Maryland Teams like Crabs, Hawks and FCA? And how did Team 91 and Madlax get in this?
Crabs and FCA boycotted last year's 2022 Natl. Championship. Hawks and Madlax were in it. Millon runs it, so of course 91 MD will be involved. It was supposed to be 16 teams last year and they allowed more teams in and the competition from the bottom 4 or 5 teams wasn't so great.

Crabs and FCA boycotted it because half of their teams weren't qualified due to age restrictions!


Hahaha. It's a grade based tournament you dolt. 91 MD and Hawks have a bunch of holdbacks too.


I see, a bunch of 14 year old 7th graders


Or, just another east coast tournament


Sad but True!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/08/17 03:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 National Championship field is set. http://youthlaxchampionship.com/

The selection process for the 2023 National Championship states: "Only teams competing in AA leagues and similar-level tournaments will be considered." Thus, Cavs would not even be considered. Next Level will be there. During a scrimmage this fall, Next Level beat Cavs by over 10 goals. I am sure there is an Aloha tournament that Cavs can go play in that weekend. VLC lost to Lax Factory and NXT at their last tournament, hardly the best.


Where are all the Top Maryland Teams like Crabs, Hawks and FCA? And how did Team 91 and Madlax get in this?

Crabs and FCA boycotted last year's 2022 Natl. Championship. Hawks and Madlax were in it. Millon runs it, so of course 91 MD will be involved. It was supposed to be 16 teams last year and they allowed more teams in and the competition from the bottom 4 or 5 teams wasn't so great.


FCA didn't boycott last year. Where do you guys come up with this stuff. It was the same weekend as the FCA Lacrosse camp that they run every year so they were unable to attend. Not sure why Crabs doesn't go other than they don't want to put money in MM's pockets.


NLF has their own national championship the weekend after. Not to be confused with the WSYL in denver and or Hogan Naptown championship ealier in July. Top teams can;t play them all. Millon has a solid field committed. Should be a fun event. BTW FCA generally ends their summer schedules in June
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/08/17 02:50 PM
It still has an age component. Look at the rules.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/08/17 02:56 PM
Hawks were beaten at battle on the bay by Texas Mustang. Might not have everyone but it still looks like a great lineup.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/08/17 06:01 PM
igloo won last year, I guess MM doesn't want them back
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/08/17 09:38 PM
Just read the rules don't see anything about age. Why is TRue allowed to play aren't they a national team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/09/17 01:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just read the rules don't see anything about age. Why is TRue allowed to play aren't they a national team?


They have True Illinois, True Michigan etc that roll-up to True National. Would assume it's True Illinois since they beat Hawks, BL, BLC pretty convincingly at Summer Exposure last summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 04:35 AM
Any excitement at the Dukes National tryout at Loyola tonight?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 04:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any excitement at the Dukes National tryout at Loyola tonight?


They didn't really play lacrosse tonight?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 10:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any excitement at the Dukes National tryout at Loyola tonight?


Dukes Nationals MiniCamp is a disgrace. Unprofessional, Unsafe, NO evaluation at all. 4 inches of snow. Can't see white balls, feet and hands frost bitten and right next door to an indoor facility. G just too cheap to pay or just too stupid and totally unprepared
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 07:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any excitement at the Dukes National tryout at Loyola tonight?


Dukes Nationals MiniCamp is a disgrace. Unprofessional, Unsafe, NO evaluation at all. 4 inches of snow. Can't see white balls, feet and hands frost bitten and right next door to an indoor facility. G just too cheap to pay or just too stupid and totally unprepared


Why would you even consider taking your kid to a lacrosse practice, tryout , combine or whatever they call it in last nights weather? Of course they were miserable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 07:23 PM
Did Duke’s National notify new players that tried out last night?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 10:38 PM
Check your email ...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/11/17 04:39 PM
Cavalier 2023 ranked #16 in the nation.

www.instagram.com/p/Bch2nLggxG6
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/11/17 06:14 PM
And number one in your hearts!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/11/17 06:18 PM
Do any of the Cavs 2023 play for Duke’s National?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/11/17 08:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And number one in your hearts!



I don't see your club listed. Stop hating on kids. You guys are the ones ruining lacrosse. Why hate on other teams' successes?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/11/17 09:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavalier 2023 ranked #16 in the nation.

www.instagram.com/p/Bch2nLggxG6


But can't stay within 10 goals of Next Level 2023 or Bethesda LC 2023 just two months ago.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/11/17 10:15 PM
That was a scrimmage. This team has won several tournaments in a row. Don't be that guy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/11/17 10:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was a scrimmage. This team has won several tournaments in a row. Don't be that guy.


Have they beaten any team that plays in the top division of HoCo? Ever?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 01:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was a scrimmage. This team has won several tournaments in a row. Don't be that guy.


Have they beaten any team that plays in the top division of HoCo? Ever?


No, they schedule cupcakes and play weak tournaments. If they're as good as you say, the coaches would have the balls to put them into real tournaments like Young Guns or NXT instead of the Leesburg/Manassas/VA Beach rec level tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 12:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was a scrimmage. This team has won several tournaments in a row. Don't be that guy.


Have they beaten any team that plays in the top division of HoCo? Ever?


No, they schedule cupcakes and play weak tournaments. If they're as good as you say, the coaches would have the balls to put them into real tournaments like Young Guns or NXT instead of the Leesburg/Manassas/VA Beach rec level tournaments.


I do not like how blunt this guy is saying this but he is correct. Cavs are a nice little fun club team to play for. But if your son is on this Cavs 2023 team and he is the best or one of the best players on the team please start shopping for a new club. Just interview any of the 2018 to 2020 kids on VLC,Madlax, or BW and they will tell you how many of them or there teammates played for the Cavs when they were kids. I know you like the parents and you are having fun but do not wait to long and hurt your sons future in lacrosse. The parents and kids are just as fun with the better club I promise.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 04:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was a scrimmage. This team has won several tournaments in a row. Don't be that guy.


Have they beaten any team that plays in the top division of HoCo? Ever?


No, they schedule cupcakes and play weak tournaments. If they're as good as you say, the coaches would have the balls to put them into real tournaments like Young Guns or NXT instead of the Leesburg/Manassas/VA Beach rec level tournaments.


I do not like how blunt this guy is saying this but he is correct. Cavs are a nice little fun club team to play for. But if your son is on this Cavs 2023 team and he is the best or one of the best players on the team please start shopping for a new club. Just interview any of the 2018 to 2020 kids on VLC,Madlax, or BW and they will tell you how many of them or there teammates played for the Cavs when they were kids. I know you like the parents and you are having fun but do not wait to long and hurt your sons future in lacrosse. The parents and kids are just as fun with the better club I promise.

Wow Madlax is really desperate to recruit more kids so they can have a 2023 DMV team. Do not take the bait. Very few Cav kids went to VLC almost none went to BW and Madlax. Total fake news. Cav's are still the only 2023 team with a ranking and winning tournaments. Can Madlax or VLC claim this at 2023?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 04:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was a scrimmage. This team has won several tournaments in a row. Don't be that guy.


Have they beaten any team that plays in the top division of HoCo? Ever?


No, they schedule cupcakes and play weak tournaments. If they're as good as you say, the coaches would have the balls to put them into real tournaments like Young Guns or NXT instead of the Leesburg/Manassas/VA Beach rec level tournaments.


I do not like how blunt this guy is saying this but he is correct. Cavs are a nice little fun club team to play for. But if your son is on this Cavs 2023 team and he is the best or one of the best players on the team please start shopping for a new club. Just interview any of the 2018 to 2020 kids on VLC,Madlax, or BW and they will tell you how many of them or there teammates played for the Cavs when they were kids. I know you like the parents and you are having fun but do not wait to long and hurt your sons future in lacrosse. The parents and kids are just as fun with the better club I promise.

Wow Madlax is really desperate to recruit more kids so they can have a 2023 DMV team. Do not take the bait. Very few Cav kids went to VLC almost none went to BW and Madlax. Total fake news. Cav's are still the only 2023 team with a ranking and winning tournaments. Can Madlax or VLC claim this at 2023?



Agree that the Madlax dad is obsessed with finding enough kids for their DMV team, which is a total disaster. But get real: both Madlax and VLC 2023 teams would easily beat Cavalier. That team sucks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 06:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was a scrimmage. This team has won several tournaments in a row. Don't be that guy.


Have they beaten any team that plays in the top division of HoCo? Ever?


No, they schedule cupcakes and play weak tournaments. If they're as good as you say, the coaches would have the balls to put them into real tournaments like Young Guns or NXT instead of the Leesburg/Manassas/VA Beach rec level tournaments.


I do not like how blunt this guy is saying this but he is correct. Cavs are a nice little fun club team to play for. But if your son is on this Cavs 2023 team and he is the best or one of the best players on the team please start shopping for a new club. Just interview any of the 2018 to 2020 kids on VLC,Madlax, or BW and they will tell you how many of them or there teammates played for the Cavs when they were kids. I know you like the parents and you are having fun but do not wait to long and hurt your sons future in lacrosse. The parents and kids are just as fun with the better club I promise.

Wow Madlax is really desperate to recruit more kids so they can have a 2023 DMV team. Do not take the bait. Very few Cav kids went to VLC almost none went to BW and Madlax. Total fake news. Cav's are still the only 2023 team with a ranking and winning tournaments. Can Madlax or VLC claim this at 2023?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was a scrimmage. This team has won several tournaments in a row. Don't be that guy.


Have they beaten any team that plays in the top division of HoCo? Ever?


No, they schedule cupcakes and play weak tournaments. If they're as good as you say, the coaches would have the balls to put them into real tournaments like Young Guns or NXT instead of the Leesburg/Manassas/VA Beach rec level tournaments.


I do not like how blunt this guy is saying this but he is correct. Cavs are a nice little fun club team to play for. But if your son is on this Cavs 2023 team and he is the best or one of the best players on the team please start shopping for a new club. Just interview any of the 2018 to 2020 kids on VLC,Madlax, or BW and they will tell you how many of them or there teammates played for the Cavs when they were kids. I know you like the parents and you are having fun but do not wait to long and hurt your sons future in lacrosse. The parents and kids are just as fun with the better club I promise.

Wow Madlax is really desperate to recruit more kids so they can have a 2023 DMV team. Do not take the bait. Very few Cav kids went to VLC almost none went to BW and Madlax. Total fake news. Cav's are still the only 2023 team with a ranking and winning tournaments. Can Madlax or VLC claim this at 2023?



Agree that the Madlax dad is obsessed with finding enough kids for their DMV team, which is a total disaster. But get real: both Madlax and VLC 2023 teams would easily beat Cavalier. That team sucks.


I have no care if Madlax has a DMV team I agree as a Madlax dad that they need to let the second teams just die. Teams like the Cavs and Evergreen are taking all the second team level kids away from Madlax. But I do feel the need to let the parents of younger kids know that Cavs and the lower level teams are not a good way to go if your son is a AAA level player. If they do not like Madlax or VlC go over the bridge and play for Next Level or BLC but please do not pay the same amount of money to have your 8th grade sons play in crap tournaments and waste there times playing for these B level teams if your son is a top player.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no care if Madlax has a DMV team I agree as a Madlax dad that they need to let the second teams just die.



That will never happen because Madlax is all about money. And you are giving your money to a guy who threatens people over and over again. That is more amazing than Cavalier parents paying for terrible tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 07:02 PM
And just to be clear my son is out of high school in 6 months. I do not care about the future of any club one way or the other. But I do care about the overall level of play and giving back to younger parents because older parents helped me and my son get through this club team / college recurring process. Do not let friends hold you back from leaving a club play the level your son should be playing. Do your research about club teams because you will need to roll that process into researching all the college teams your son wants to or could play for. I am writing on the 7th grade forum because I feel as an old Dad that this is the prefect grade to upgrade clubs and do what you need to do to play as high as your son can play. The funny thing is I have talked to all the club owners of these B teams over the years. And guess what they know there top AAA players should be playing for the VLC, Madlax type teams not playing with them at the B level. But they like winning just like everyone does and if the parent is not smart enough to take there AAA players away to a real team they keep on riding him to B level trophy's.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 07:03 PM
Delusional people...what's wrong with winning a tournament. What ever level. Cav's are a GOOD age based team. Maybe they should get some cheating HOLDBACKS TO COMPETE AT GRADE BASE.
But keep your hopes up for that 25 percent scholarship. You'll pay more in club fees to madlax ridiculous quarterly fee
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 08:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And just to be clear my son is out of high school in 6 months. I do not care about the future of any club one way or the other. But I do care about the overall level of play and giving back to younger parents because older parents helped me and my son get through this club team / college recurring process. Do not let friends hold you back from leaving a club play the level your son should be playing. Do your research about club teams because you will need to roll that process into researching all the college teams your son wants to or could play for. I am writing on the 7th grade forum because I feel as an old Dad that this is the prefect grade to upgrade clubs and do what you need to do to play as high as your son can play. The funny thing is I have talked to all the club owners of these B teams over the years. And guess what they know there top AAA players should be playing for the VLC, Madlax type teams not playing with them at the B level. But they like winning just like everyone does and if the parent is not smart enough to take there AAA players away to a real team they keep on riding him to B level trophy's.



You are assuming those kids could play for VLC or Madlax. Maybe 1-2 of them could at best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 08:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Delusional people...what's wrong with winning a tournament. What ever level. Cav's are a GOOD age based team. Maybe they should get some cheating HOLDBACKS TO COMPETE AT GRADE BASE.
But keep your hopes up for that 25 percent scholarship. You'll pay more in club fees to madlax ridiculous quarterly fee


You're assuming both Madlax and VLC have holdbacks. I'd be willing to bet they don't. Hope you enjoyed that scintillating Colonial Challenge.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 11:02 PM
My son is a strong player on one of the higher level clubs. Things are fine with current club, but I've heard good reports about Top Caliber and it's located close to our house. Very much understand that TC may not be at the same level as NL, VLC, CB, MDLX, etc, but TC seems really active and from an outsider's view appears to be getting better from a competitive perspective. Anyone have first-hand experience? Good and bad? No need for bashing - just looking for information and wonder what I may be unaware of.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 03:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Delusional people...what's wrong with winning a tournament. What ever level. Cav's are a GOOD age based team. Maybe they should get some cheating HOLDBACKS TO COMPETE AT GRADE BASE.
But keep your hopes up for that 25 percent scholarship. You'll pay more in club fees to madlax ridiculous quarterly fee


They should be renamed the "Cupcakes".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 04:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is a strong player on one of the higher level clubs. Things are fine with current club, but I've heard good reports about Top Caliber and it's located close to our house. Very much understand that TC may not be at the same level as NL, VLC, CB, MDLX, etc, but TC seems really active and from an outsider's view appears to be getting better from a competitive perspective. Anyone have first-hand experience? Good and bad? No need for bashing - just looking for information and wonder what I may be unaware of.

Matt Curran who coaches Robinson HS has been around HS lax in N.Va as long as anyone and has a great reputation. He has coached a ton of talent of the years. If your son is going to Robinson HS TC is THE program. It is also a good program for other kids as well who want to learn and play with other players who will be top players in Fairfax teams like Woodson, LB, WS, Fairfax ect..... The rest of the coaches also challenge the kids as well. The price is more reasonable and they do not play daddy ball. Despite what MADLAX dad says, playing with your friends is important great players will get noticed for being great players not for the name on the pinnie.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 04:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is a strong player on one of the higher level clubs. Things are fine with current club, but I've heard good reports about Top Caliber and it's located close to our house. Very much understand that TC may not be at the same level as NL, VLC, CB, MDLX, etc, but TC seems really active and from an outsider's view appears to be getting better from a competitive perspective. Anyone have first-hand experience? Good and bad? No need for bashing - just looking for information and wonder what I may be unaware of.


TC has gotten better, but all of their teams are light years behind Madlax and VLC. They cannot enter the top tournaments let zlo me be competitive with those who play in them.

They are comparable to Cavs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 01:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is a strong player on one of the higher level clubs. Things are fine with current club, but I've heard good reports about Top Caliber and it's located close to our house. Very much understand that TC may not be at the same level as NL, VLC, CB, MDLX, etc, but TC seems really active and from an outsider's view appears to be getting better from a competitive perspective. Anyone have first-hand experience? Good and bad? No need for bashing - just looking for information and wonder what I may be unaware of.

Matt Curran who coaches Robinson HS has been around HS lax in N.Va as long as anyone and has a great reputation. He has coached a ton of talent of the years. If your son is going to Robinson HS TC is THE program. It is also a good program for other kids as well who want to learn and play with other players who will be top players in Fairfax teams like Woodson, LB, WS, Fairfax ect..... The rest of the coaches also challenge the kids as well. The price is more reasonable and they do not play daddy ball. Despite what MADLAX dad says, playing with your friends is important great players will get noticed for being great players not for the name on the pinnie.


From what I have seen, they have good coaches. Kids enjoy the team. You son will learn a lot. Many of the top kids do move on to a better team. The location is appealing to a lot of people who live near the practices. It is Robinson focused but I didn't feel if affected playing time or anything else if not feeding into Robinson. Not a AA team but a good A level team. If that fits your needs I recommend it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is a strong player on one of the higher level clubs. Things are fine with current club, but I've heard good reports about Top Caliber and it's located close to our house. Very much understand that TC may not be at the same level as NL, VLC, CB, MDLX, etc, but TC seems really active and from an outsider's view appears to be getting better from a competitive perspective. Anyone have first-hand experience? Good and bad? No need for bashing - just looking for information and wonder what I may be unaware of.

Matt Curran who coaches Robinson HS has been around HS lax in N.Va as long as anyone and has a great reputation. He has coached a ton of talent of the years. If your son is going to Robinson HS TC is THE program. It is also a good program for other kids as well who want to learn and play with other players who will be top players in Fairfax teams like Woodson, LB, WS, Fairfax ect..... The rest of the coaches also challenge the kids as well. The price is more reasonable and they do not play daddy ball. Despite what MADLAX dad says, playing with your friends is important great players will get noticed for being great players not for the name on the pinnie.


From what I have seen, they have good coaches. Kids enjoy the team. You son will learn a lot. Many of the top kids do move on to a better team. The location is appealing to a lot of people who live near the practices. It is Robinson focused but I didn't feel if affected playing time or anything else if not feeding into Robinson. Not a AA team but a good A level team. If that fits your needs I recommend it.

3d also has a decent team at 2023. They lost some kids this summer at other age groups but the additions to the 2023 team are an improvement over the players they lost. They won the A bracket of the Madlax tournament and have been doing well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is a strong player on one of the higher level clubs. Things are fine with current club, but I've heard good reports about Top Caliber and it's located close to our house. Very much understand that TC may not be at the same level as NL, VLC, CB, MDLX, etc, but TC seems really active and from an outsider's view appears to be getting better from a competitive perspective. Anyone have first-hand experience? Good and bad? No need for bashing - just looking for information and wonder what I may be unaware of.

Matt Curran who coaches Robinson HS has been around HS lax in N.Va as long as anyone and has a great reputation. He has coached a ton of talent of the years. If your son is going to Robinson HS TC is THE program. It is also a good program for other kids as well who want to learn and play with other players who will be top players in Fairfax teams like Woodson, LB, WS, Fairfax ect..... The rest of the coaches also challenge the kids as well. The price is more reasonable and they do not play daddy ball. Despite what MADLAX dad says, playing with your friends is important great players will get noticed for being great players not for the name on the pinnie.



That is some terrible advice. Robinson has one of the few consistently strong Fairfax public school programs because of the size of the school and the talent pool. But TC is a very marginal program. They play in lesser tournaments. The few players who play for them who get recruited do so because of what they do at recruiting events. They are not "THE program" if you go to Robinson. The best Robinson players play for Madlax, VLC and Blackwolf.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 08:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is a strong player on one of the higher level clubs. Things are fine with current club, but I've heard good reports about Top Caliber and it's located close to our house. Very much understand that TC may not be at the same level as NL, VLC, CB, MDLX, etc, but TC seems really active and from an outsider's view appears to be getting better from a competitive perspective. Anyone have first-hand experience? Good and bad? No need for bashing - just looking for information and wonder what I may be unaware of.

Matt Curran who coaches Robinson HS has been around HS lax in N.Va as long as anyone and has a great reputation. He has coached a ton of talent of the years. If your son is going to Robinson HS TC is THE program. It is also a good program for other kids as well who want to learn and play with other players who will be top players in Fairfax teams like Woodson, LB, WS, Fairfax ect..... The rest of the coaches also challenge the kids as well. The price is more reasonable and they do not play daddy ball. Despite what MADLAX dad says, playing with your friends is important great players will get noticed for being great players not for the name on the pinnie.


From what I have seen, they have good coaches. Kids enjoy the team. You son will learn a lot. Many of the top kids do move on to a better team. The location is appealing to a lot of people who live near the practices. It is Robinson focused but I didn't feel if affected playing time or anything else if not feeding into Robinson. Not a AA team but a good A level team. If that fits your needs I recommend it.

3d also has a decent team at 2023. They lost some kids this summer at other age groups but the additions to the 2023 team are an improvement over the players they lost. They won the A bracket of the Madlax tournament and have been doing well.

3d can't even beat Cavs. But I guess you did say "decent" and worse than Cavs is around decent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 09:26 PM
Are you serious? 3d 2023 is terrible. The kids they brought in are nowhere close to being as good as those they lost. That program is reduced to 1 HS team and 3 youth teams. Total dumpster fire.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 10:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you serious? 3d 2023 is terrible. The kids they brought in are nowhere close to being as good as those they lost. That program is reduced to 1 HS team and 3 youth teams. Total dumpster fire.

3d could barely beat BLC's B team at FallFest. They split though 3d did win the second game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 11:07 PM
While I admit that I smiled at the "dumpster fire" reference, there are several players on the lower-level teams that are really strong. The rosters of the lower-level teams just aren't as deep as the top clubs. My kid's at the high end of this age group, but I'm always impressed with how good these so called "terrible" teams really are. We over exaggerate the differences between the DMV travel teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 11:19 PM
It depends on your kid! If he wants to be challenged in practice and games, and has aspirations to be D1 player you should make the sacrifice (be it distance and / or expense) to play for an elite program. Not a necessity, but I think for the public school kids that are not challenged within their local club teams and HS programs they should play elite club lacrosse if they want to play D1 lacrosse. If your son is potentially an elite AAA player (was AA a few years ago) there is significant IQ and skill development gained within the competitive practices in addition to the games and tournaments. Ultimately it should be the kid's decision if the parents are willing and able. Conversely there is nothing wrong with playing locally with friends, future HS team mates, and having fun. What is the goal? MD parent that traveled 100 miles round trip to Baltimore for four years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/14/17 12:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you serious? 3d 2023 is terrible. The kids they brought in are nowhere close to being as good as those they lost. That program is reduced to 1 HS team and 3 youth teams. Total dumpster fire.

Agree that 3d is terrible. Disagree that the new kids are not as good as those they lost. Scoreboard says different. HOCO spring: Cavs 7, 3d 3. Indian Summer fall tourney: Cavs 8, 3d 3. Same number of goals scored and almost identical goal differential against same opponent. Facts show the talent exchanged between spring and fall was about the same. But if your kid left 3d to join vlc or wherever, I can understand your confusion on the issue.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/14/17 05:49 PM
You are actually going to compare the score of two games to make your argument? The fact that 3d lost by 1 more goal in a rematch with an equally terrible Cavs team proves your point? Those are not facts. Even if it wasn't a small sample size, you have no idea who the kids on Cavs are then compared to now. Or maybe one team played a lot worse.

I know two of the kids who left 3d. Their replacements are light years from being comparable. I can't believe you actually cited "facts". The transition property works in algebra, not sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/14/17 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you serious? 3d 2023 is terrible. The kids they brought in are nowhere close to being as good as those they lost. That program is reduced to 1 HS team and 3 youth teams. Total dumpster fire.

Agree that 3d is terrible. Disagree that the new kids are not as good as those they lost. Scoreboard says different. HOCO spring: Cavs 7, 3d 3. Indian Summer fall tourney: Cavs 8, 3d 3. Same number of goals scored and almost identical goal differential against same opponent. Facts show the talent exchanged between spring and fall was about the same. But if your kid left 3d to join vlc or wherever, I can understand your confusion on the issue.



Thanks for adding humor to my work day. First, no one really cares about these two teams except a few parents. I did not author either of these previous posts but my son left 3d and went to VLC and I will say I do not think either team along with CAV's are "terrible." I will not also care or comment if my son is better than another kids on the team In fact, I think these players on all of these teams will be the top players at the HS level is a few seasons. Some of them may even play in college. I also coach "rec" and although I hate that word I will tell you these teams play at a much higher level than NVYLL and have good coaching. However many of the facts on this board are off. First 3d did not play Bethesda it was NL, Second, VLC did not loose to Mad Lax by 4-5 goals there is no such thing as a score of 4 or 5. It was 4 at was tied until late in the game. It was VLC's first game. Last the 3d v. Cav's HOCO game was also very close tied until late in the game. I did not see the second time they played. If you post at least get the details correct. Until then, enjoy watching the kids grow. None of these teams or kids are "terrible" and they will enjoy facing each other in HS. The players on these teams are actually close in skill including Madlax. I do not think driving hours to MD is worth it in the long run to play college lacrosse. If your son is skilled enough they can make it to the next level. CAV 2018 has a ton of kids playing in College. I hope I covered the most recent posts. Fun reading!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/14/17 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are actually going to compare the score of two games to make your argument? The fact that 3d lost by 1 more goal in a rematch with an equally terrible Cavs team proves your point? Those are not facts. Even if it wasn't a small sample size, you have no idea who the kids on Cavs are then compared to now. Or maybe one team played a lot worse.

I know two of the kids who left 3d. Their replacements are light years from being comparable. I can't believe you actually cited "facts". The transition property works in algebra, not sports.

Cavs would crush VLC. VLC could not even beat Lax Factory or NXT a couple weeks ago.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/14/17 06:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you serious? 3d 2023 is terrible. The kids they brought in are nowhere close to being as good as those they lost. That program is reduced to 1 HS team and 3 youth teams. Total dumpster fire.

Agree that 3d is terrible. Disagree that the new kids are not as good as those they lost. Scoreboard says different. HOCO spring: Cavs 7, 3d 3. Indian Summer fall tourney: Cavs 8, 3d 3. Same number of goals scored and almost identical goal differential against same opponent. Facts show the talent exchanged between spring and fall was about the same. But if your kid left 3d to join vlc or wherever, I can understand your confusion on the issue.



Thanks for adding humor to my work day. First, no one really cares about these two teams except a few parents. I did not author either of these previous posts but my son left 3d and went to VLC and I will say I do not think either team along with CAV's are "terrible." I will not also care or comment if my son is better than another kids on the team In fact, I think these players on all of these teams will be the top players at the HS level is a few seasons. Some of them may even play in college. I also coach "rec" and although I hate that word I will tell you these teams play at a much higher level than NVYLL and have good coaching. However many of the facts on this board are off. First 3d did not play Bethesda it was NL, Second, VLC did not loose to Mad Lax by 4-5 goals there is no such thing as a score of 4 or 5. It was 4 at was tied until late in the game. It was VLC's first game. Last the 3d v. Cav's HOCO game was also very close tied until late in the game. I did not see the second time they played. If you post at least get the details correct. Until then, enjoy watching the kids grow. None of these teams or kids are "terrible" and they will enjoy facing each other in HS. The players on these teams are actually close in skill including Madlax. I do not think driving hours to MD is worth it in the long run to play college lacrosse. If your son is skilled enough they can make it to the next level. CAV 2018 has a ton of kids playing in College. I hope I covered the most recent posts. Fun reading!

Cavs is 95% the same. 100% the same at the starting positions. Grabbing some third line mids and 6th/7th pole did not make a difference.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/14/17 08:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you serious? 3d 2023 is terrible. The kids they brought in are nowhere close to being as good as those they lost. That program is reduced to 1 HS team and 3 youth teams. Total dumpster fire.

Agree that 3d is terrible. Disagree that the new kids are not as good as those they lost. Scoreboard says different. HOCO spring: Cavs 7, 3d 3. Indian Summer fall tourney: Cavs 8, 3d 3. Same number of goals scored and almost identical goal differential against same opponent. Facts show the talent exchanged between spring and fall was about the same. But if your kid left 3d to join vlc or wherever, I can understand your confusion on the issue.



Thanks for adding humor to my work day. First, no one really cares about these two teams except a few parents. I did not author either of these previous posts but my son left 3d and went to VLC and I will say I do not think either team along with CAV's are "terrible." I will not also care or comment if my son is better than another kids on the team In fact, I think these players on all of these teams will be the top players at the HS level is a few seasons. Some of them may even play in college. I also coach "rec" and although I hate that word I will tell you these teams play at a much higher level than NVYLL and have good coaching. However many of the facts on this board are off. First 3d did not play Bethesda it was NL, Second, VLC did not loose to Mad Lax by 4-5 goals there is no such thing as a score of 4 or 5. It was 4 at was tied until late in the game. It was VLC's first game. Last the 3d v. Cav's HOCO game was also very close tied until late in the game. I did not see the second time they played. If you post at least get the details correct. Until then, enjoy watching the kids grow. None of these teams or kids are "terrible" and they will enjoy facing each other in HS. The players on these teams are actually close in skill including Madlax. I do not think driving hours to MD is worth it in the long run to play college lacrosse. If your son is skilled enough they can make it to the next level. CAV 2018 has a ton of kids playing in College. I hope I covered the most recent posts. Fun reading!

Cavs is 95% the same. 100% the same at the starting positions. Grabbing some third line mids and 6th/7th pole did not make a difference.

Saw both Cavalier 2023 vs. 3d Mid Atlantic 2023 games. 3d looked the same in both games to me. Except for this guy saying some of the 3d kids changes, I would not have noticed; in fact, I did not.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/14/17 10:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are actually going to compare the score of two games to make your argument? The fact that 3d lost by 1 more goal in a rematch with an equally terrible Cavs team proves your point? Those are not facts. Even if it wasn't a small sample size, you have no idea who the kids on Cavs are then compared to now. Or maybe one team played a lot worse.

I know two of the kids who left 3d. Their replacements are light years from being comparable. I can't believe you actually cited "facts". The transition property works in algebra, not sports.

Cavs would crush VLC. VLC could not even beat Lax Factory or NXT a couple weeks ago.



LOL. VLC just got formed and they beat Madlax and lost to Bethesda by 2. Could Cavs stay within 2 of Bethesda? No.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/14/17 11:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are actually going to compare the score of two games to make your argument? The fact that 3d lost by 1 more goal in a rematch with an equally terrible Cavs team proves your point? Those are not facts. Even if it wasn't a small sample size, you have no idea who the kids on Cavs are then compared to now. Or maybe one team played a lot worse.

I know two of the kids who left 3d. Their replacements are light years from being comparable. I can't believe you actually cited "facts". The transition property works in algebra, not sports.

Cavs would crush VLC. VLC could not even beat Lax Factory or NXT a couple weeks ago.



LOL. VLC just got formed and they beat Madlax and lost to Bethesda by 2. Could Cavs stay within 2 of Bethesda? No.

Please stop leaving Evergreen 2023 out of the NOVA conversation. Evergreen is only a couple players away from toppling the guys currently at the top.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/14/17 11:15 PM
I wouldn't sleep on Lax Factory. They look to be improved from last year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/15/17 12:17 AM
can we get a NOVA page all its own!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/15/17 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can we get a NOVA page all its own!



Shut up, drunk Baltimore dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/15/17 06:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are actually going to compare the score of two games to make your argument? The fact that 3d lost by 1 more goal in a rematch with an equally terrible Cavs team proves your point? Those are not facts. Even if it wasn't a small sample size, you have no idea who the kids on Cavs are then compared to now. Or maybe one team played a lot worse.

I know two of the kids who left 3d. Their replacements are light years from being comparable. I can't believe you actually cited "facts". The transition property works in algebra, not sports.

Cavs would crush VLC. VLC could not even beat Lax Factory or NXT a couple weeks ago.



LOL. VLC just got formed and they beat Madlax and lost to Bethesda by 2. Could Cavs stay within 2 of Bethesda? No.

Please stop leaving Evergreen 2023 out of the NOVA conversation. Evergreen is only a couple players away from toppling the guys currently at the top.


Yea, I was a couple of drinks away from bringing home two girls on time in collage but it never happen!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/15/17 08:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are actually going to compare the score of two games to make your argument? The fact that 3d lost by 1 more goal in a rematch with an equally terrible Cavs team proves your point? Those are not facts. Even if it wasn't a small sample size, you have no idea who the kids on Cavs are then compared to now. Or maybe one team played a lot worse.

I know two of the kids who left 3d. Their replacements are light years from being comparable. I can't believe you actually cited "facts". The transition property works in algebra, not sports.

Cavs would crush VLC. VLC could not even beat Lax Factory or NXT a couple weeks ago.



LOL. VLC just got formed and they beat Madlax and lost to Bethesda by 2. Could Cavs stay within 2 of Bethesda? No.

Please stop leaving Evergreen 2023 out of the NOVA conversation. Evergreen is only a couple players away from toppling the guys currently at the top.


Yea, I was a couple of drinks away from bringing home two girls on time in collage but it never happen!

Evergreen is only about 10 new starters away from being competitive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/17/17 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are actually going to compare the score of two games to make your argument? The fact that 3d lost by 1 more goal in a rematch with an equally terrible Cavs team proves your point? Those are not facts. Even if it wasn't a small sample size, you have no idea who the kids on Cavs are then compared to now. Or maybe one team played a lot worse.

I know two of the kids who left 3d. Their replacements are light years from being comparable. I can't believe you actually cited "facts". The transition property works in algebra, not sports
Cavs would crush VLC. VLC could not even beat Lax Factory or NXT a couple weeks ago.


LOL. VLC just got formed and they beat Madlax and lost to Bethesda by 2. Could Cavs stay within 2 of Bethesda? No.

Please stop leaving Evergreen 2023 out of the NOVA conversation. Evergreen is only a couple players away from toppling the guys currently at the top.

Yea, I was a couple of drinks away from bringing home two girls on time in collage but it never happen!

Evergreen is only about 10 new starters away from being competitive.


10 new starters and 1 coach
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/19/17 12:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can we get a NOVA page all its own!



Shut up, drunk Baltimore dad.


Lord knows you NOVA morons drive us to drink. Buzzkill threads about crummy programs. I'm asking your wife to pass the schnapps!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/19/17 03:23 PM
Is flat brim taking a team to Tampa?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/19/17 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is flat brim taking a team to Tampa?

Hopefully...Nothing like having a club within the club....Seriously that all-star team made up of kids from other clubs must really cause some bad feelings in Crabs... They have a knack for pissing great parents and kids off....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/19/17 08:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can we get a NOVA page all its own!



Shut up, drunk Baltimore dad.


A NOVA page could be named "B" team all stars
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/20/17 12:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can we get a NOVA page all its own!



Shut up, drunk Baltimore dad.


A NOVA page could be named "B" team all stars


That is being generous..More like C + . combine them all into one all star team and you might have a B + team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/20/17 02:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can we get a NOVA page all its own!



Shut up, drunk Baltimore dad.


A NOVA page could be named "B" team all stars


That is being generous..More like C + . combine them all into one all star team and you might have a B + team.

If you combine all the Maryland 2023 All Star's you would have a 2022 team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/20/17 07:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can we get a NOVA page all its own!



Shut up, drunk Baltimore dad.


A NOVA page could be named "B" team all stars


That is being generous..More like C + . combine them all into one all star team and you might have a B + team.

If you combine all the Maryland 2023 All Star's you would have a 2022 team


and they would mop the floor with all the NOVA 2021 teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/20/17 07:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can we get a NOVA page all its own!



Shut up, drunk Baltimore dad.


A NOVA page could be named "B" team all stars


That is being generous..More like C + . combine them all into one all star team and you might have a B + team.

If you combine all the Maryland 2023 All Star's you would have a 2022 team


If you are referring to the "Flat Brim 2023 Team" then Sorry - the Tampa tournament is age based and all kids are on age. I actually like Flat Brim and the kids who can play love him. Stop hating!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/20/17 08:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can we get a NOVA page all its own!



Shut up, drunk Baltimore dad.


A NOVA page could be named "B" team all stars


That is being generous..More like C + . combine them all into one all star team and you might have a B + team.

If you combine all the Maryland 2023 All Star's you would have a 2022 team


If you are referring to the "Flat Brim 2023 Team" then Sorry - the Tampa tournament is age based and all kids are on age. I actually like Flat Brim and the kids who can play love him. Stop hating!


So they found a tournament that allows older kids to play. Good for them.
Tampa:
Age Eligibility

For youth divisions (2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026-2027) the age cutoffs are as follows:

2026-2027 (10U-9U) - Born on or after 1/1/2007
2025 (11U) - Born between 1/1/2006 and 12/31/2006
2024 (12U) - Born between 1/1/2005 and 12/31/2005
2023 (13U) - Born between 1/1/2004 and 12/31/2004
2022 (14U) - Born between 1/1/2003 and 12/31/2003
2021 (15U) - Born between 1/1/2002 and 12/31/2002

This tournament may be age based but it does not line up to schools calenders. Every other age based tournament would not allow a January 2004 to be a 2023 player.

Here are the US Lacrosse Guidelines:

Born 9/1/2007 through 8/31/2008 10U 4th N/A
Born 9/1/2006 through 8/31/2007 11U 5th N/A
Born 9/1/2005 through 8/31/2006 12U 6th N/A
Born 9/1/2004 through 8/31/2005 13U 7th N/A
Born 9/1/2003 through 8/31/2004 14U 8th N/A

The rest is the wild west with no grade rules. I actually do not have an issue with players playing others a few months even a year or two older. I just have an issue with teams having different sets of rules or cutoffs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/20/17 10:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can we get a NOVA page all its own!



Shut up, drunk Baltimore dad.


A NOVA page could be named "B" team all stars


That is being generous..More like C + . combine them all into one all star team and you might have a B + team.

If you combine all the Maryland 2023 All Star's you would have a 2022 team


If you are referring to the "Flat Brim 2023 Team" then Sorry - the Tampa tournament is age based and all kids are on age. I actually like Flat Brim and the kids who can play love him. Stop hating!


Age based yes, but that cutoff is 1/1. There are very few kids born prior to 1/1. Only know of one kid and he does happen to be on Crabs 2023
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/21/17 04:03 AM
Why do you care where this team plays and how old the kids are? Your kid isn’t playing for or against them! You seem like you’ve done a lot of research about a tournament that you won’t be attending.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/21/17 06:52 PM
This is why everyone hates Baltimore dads.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/22/17 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is why everyone hates Baltimore dads.


If you read these posts, then everyone hates all dads and moms of all lacrosse kids. Trolls everywhere. On another note - I saw the Tampa Tourney up on Tourneymachine. Where are the 2023 teams? Only Duke's wanted to go down there? They will walk away with the championship. Easy work.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/22/17 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is why everyone hates Baltimore dads.


If you read these posts, then everyone hates all dads and moms of all lacrosse kids. Trolls everywhere. On another note - I saw the Tampa Tourney up on Tourneymachine. Where are the 2023 teams? Only Duke's wanted to go down there? They will walk away with the championship. Easy work.


The Atlantic Coast Stars is Flat Brim's Team and is loaded with Kids from around the areas; Crabs, Hawks, Next Level etc. I think that will be the team to beat.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/22/17 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is why everyone hates Baltimore dads.


If you read these posts, then everyone hates all dads and moms of all lacrosse kids. Trolls everywhere. On another note - I saw the Tampa Tourney up on Tourneymachine. Where are the 2023 teams? Only Duke's wanted to go down there? They will walk away with the championship. Easy work.


The Atlantic Coast Stars is Flat Brim's Team and is loaded with Kids from around the areas; Crabs, Hawks, Next Level etc. I think that will be the team to beat.


So Flat Brim coached the 2023 Mid Atlantic team for warrior all-american games. I assume most of the same kids now on his new all star team. My kid keeps asking about trying out for the warrior games team. But I'm guessing if FB is coaching the warrior team then any tryout is pointless. Anyone know if he is?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/22/17 04:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is why everyone hates Baltimore dads.


If you read these posts, then everyone hates all dads and moms of all lacrosse kids. Trolls everywhere. On another note - I saw the Tampa Tourney up on Tourneymachine. Where are the 2023 teams? Only Duke's wanted to go down there? They will walk away with the championship. Easy work.


The Atlantic Coast Stars is Flat Brim's Team and is loaded with Kids from around the areas; Crabs, Hawks, Next Level etc. I think that will be the team to beat.


Bunch of solid players... no studs like Duke's... plus Flat Brim will get out coached.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/22/17 08:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is why everyone hates Baltimore dads.


If you read these posts, then everyone hates all dads and moms of all lacrosse kids. Trolls everywhere. On another note - I saw the Tampa Tourney up on Tourneymachine. Where are the 2023 teams? Only Duke's wanted to go down there? They will walk away with the championship. Easy work.


The Atlantic Coast Stars is Flat Brim's Team and is loaded with Kids from around the areas; Crabs, Hawks, Next Level etc. I think that will be the team to beat.


Bunch of solid players... no studs like Duke's... plus Flat Brim will get out coached.


Team will be made up of Friends of FB, not necessarily best players at that position.
Many good players know enough to stay away from that situation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/26/17 02:32 PM
The Warrior tryouts was a Crabs recruiting event were they took kids who weren't even at tryouts. Unless you get invited by FB or the King Crab save your money.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/26/17 03:59 PM
You dads are so brave on the Internet. If you had any balls, you would talk to the guy who call flat brim, and say the things you say here to his face. Much tougher to hide behind a keyboard.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/26/17 08:46 PM
Flat Brim is very popular. I bet he sits at the cool kids table with King Crab while the rest just look on with envy!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/26/17 11:29 PM
Does Flat Brim coach for the Crabs? I’m a poster from the Northeast.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/27/17 02:20 PM
If Flat Brim is who I think he is, he was at Bel Air Lacrosse for a long time. Really nice guy. His kid was younger than mine but helped our travel team before we went to club. Flat brims to look very inner city and gangster but if it this guy, Sean I think his name was, He was very nice and really good with the kids. In addition, knows Lax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/27/17 02:41 PM
Flat brim.
[Linked Image]
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/27/17 04:31 PM
You should really learn photoshop so you could use this picture without the faces of the kids you just posted on this POS site.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/27/17 05:09 PM
You really should just stop talking about this coach! Start talking about lacrosse. No one cares that your feelings are hurt. You just posted a picture of people’s kids on an anonymous forum. Whatever your problem is, you need to move on!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/28/17 12:51 AM
Flat brim is a clown. That said, there are many clubs in the area. For 3 years now, he has tried to get my son to play for Crabs, and tryout for his various all star teams. A simple "No" from us seems to work. Others should try this approach
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/28/17 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Flat brim is a clown. That said, there are many clubs in the area. For 3 years now, he has tried to get my son to play for Crabs, and tryout for his various all star teams. A simple "No" from us seems to work. Others should try this approach

Why is he called flat brim?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/28/17 02:26 PM
That is the guy I was talking about. He was pretty cool when my kids were younger. His son was most likely too young to play Lacrosse. Things may have changed but he was a good guy back then. He is called Flat Brim because of his hat he always wears. Seems like a Punk Rocker type of thing. I am too old to care about things like this. HS Lax will be starting soon. Woo Hoo.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/28/17 08:44 PM
Little disappointed in this whole conversation of Flat Brim. I was expecting a menacing tough muscular MMA type looking guy . Instead the only two I can see from the picture being the famous Flat Brim, is the Asian guy or some old grey haired guy. What a let down!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/28/17 09:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Little disappointed in this whole conversation of Flat Brim. I was expecting a menacing tough muscular MMA type looking guy . Instead the only two I can see from the picture being the famous Flat Brim, is the Asian guy or some old grey haired guy. What a let down!

Or maybe the guy wearing the flat brimmed ball cap.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/29/17 03:54 PM
Posting and commenting on a photo of boys is sad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/29/17 04:47 PM
Dukes lost by a lot
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/29/17 05:59 PM
Evergreen is holding supplemental tryouts for 3rd through 11th.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/29/17 06:30 PM
Hilarious! Dukes has Duds not Studs! Keep talking. Now you see what true talent and good coaching looks like. If you stopped playing in weak tournaments you would know the difference.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/29/17 07:25 PM
Dukes Nationals will win the whole thing in Florida. We have the best Attack Unit in the country. They are bigger stronger and faster than you guys. See you in the Championship.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/29/17 08:05 PM
Dukes used to be one of the best clubs. Now they have to rely on getting kids from across the country to field a team at certain one off tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/30/17 07:06 PM
It’s a shame these parents are so ungrateful and selfish. All this talk about how great DN is. How they are the best team in the country. They lose one game and now it’s all Daddy ball this and we are missing our best players! More than half of the parents don’t even know how to play the game. Weak!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/31/17 02:41 PM
Dukes Nationals is a PONZI Scheme. G is a crook, and the players are ball hogs. Won't be getting anymore of my money.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/31/17 11:00 PM
Someone told me about the Lax forum talking so much about Flat Brim. This is Flat Brim- FB. Anyone whose boys have played on the teams I have been so fortunate to coach or be apart of Lacrosse clinics/camps that I was asked to be on their staff know that I give my all for the boys and keep a fun learning environment for them. Pretty disturbing to read such disappointing comments. As I say to all the boys I coach...be a gentleman outside the lines and a beast inside the lines. Be kind and considerate to people and treat people with respect. I will practice what I preach and only respond to these posts by saying: I was asked to coach the mid Atlantic warrior team; I was asked to coach some of the Baltimore/Md “all star” type teams; and now asked to keep it going with the Atlantic Coast Stars team. The warrior team played a very talented LI team and we were fortunate to win the tourney. The ACS team played a solid dukes team to win the tourney. Very difficult to beat a solid team two times in the same tourney. Sorry that parents feel the way they do abouit me but please know that I give my all to the boys....it’s all about their continued growth and development. I have learned a lot from some of my past actions for defending the boys on the field and I am not perfect nor is anyone else. It all about being accountable for my actions to become a better coach. It is a privilege to coach this stellar ACS team along with having such wonderful parents. I am not coaching the Crabs 2023 because I committed to coaching this team for two years. I am not coaching the mid atlantic warrior team. All the best to everyone this upcoming lacrosse season. Anyone who knows me knows that I care and the boys come first and foremost.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/31/17 11:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals is a PONZI Scheme. G is a crook, and the players are ball hogs. Won't be getting anymore of my money.
can not even beat the teams in Florida . Not worth the time, money and travel.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/31/17 11:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals is a PONZI Scheme. G is a crook, and the players are ball hogs. Won't be getting anymore of my money.


PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: To the jerks that think that middle school lacrosse TEAMS and their CLUBS are responsible for shaping your young student-athlete, STOP! Focus on yourselves, your family, and raising your own child to be the young person and young athlete they can be and STOP comparing them to others. YOU are responsible for them. NOT their clubs, club coaches, teams, and others. Look in the mirror. If you are unhappy with your child's performance and position on a team, its NOT the team's fault or the clubs. Its plain and simple- lacrosse clubs are suited to support a few great young talents and the rest of us are along for the ride. We pay for the few young talents and for our own children to play with them- thats the system we CHOOSE to support. If you don't like it, move on and play rec. in middle school. In the end, THE BEST PLAYERS PLAY and will play most of the game in order to win. Not to get better, but to win. That is how the club system is set up. To win. Period. In middle school, it can be different if you choose to support other systems where everyone can play for the sake of playing and not to play to make a name for the club or themselves. For today, you choose to pay Dukes, to play with Dukes, so you can be a part of a winning team (most of the time). Happy new year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/01/18 04:28 PM
If your son doesn't play for FB's team, you should shut your both. The only ones who should criticize him are his players' parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/02/18 12:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals is a PONZI Scheme. G is a crook, and the players are ball hogs. Won't be getting anymore of my money.


Unless you are good enough to be a guest player that doesn't have to pay anything.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/02/18 12:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals is a PONZI Scheme. G is a crook, and the players are ball hogs. Won't be getting anymore of my money.


PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: To the jerks that think that middle school lacrosse TEAMS and their CLUBS are responsible for shaping your young student-athlete, STOP! Focus on yourselves, your family, and raising your own child to be the young person and young athlete they can be and STOP comparing them to others. YOU are responsible for them. NOT their clubs, club coaches, teams, and others. Look in the mirror. If you are unhappy with your child's performance and position on a team, its NOT the team's fault or the clubs. Its plain and simple- lacrosse clubs are suited to support a few great young talents and the rest of us are along for the ride. We pay for the few young talents and for our own children to play with them- thats the system we CHOOSE to support. If you don't like it, move on and play rec. in middle school. In the end, THE BEST PLAYERS PLAY and will play most of the game in order to win. Not to get better, but to win. That is how the club system is set up. To win. Period. In middle school, it can be different if you choose to support other systems where everyone can play for the sake of playing and not to play to make a name for the club or themselves. For today, you choose to pay Dukes, to play with Dukes, so you can be a part of a winning team (most of the time). Happy new year.


This is someone who clearly has no idea what it means to be a COACH!! Sir with all do respect there is much more to coaching then "WINNING" and if you don't understand that than I feel sorry for your team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/02/18 03:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals is a PONZI Scheme. G is a crook, and the players are ball hogs. Won't be getting anymore of my money.


PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: To the jerks that think that middle school lacrosse TEAMS and their CLUBS are responsible for shaping your young student-athlete, STOP! Focus on yourselves, your family, and raising your own child to be the young person and young athlete they can be and STOP comparing them to others. YOU are responsible for them. NOT their clubs, club coaches, teams, and others. Look in the mirror. If you are unhappy with your child's performance and position on a team, its NOT the team's fault or the clubs. Its plain and simple- lacrosse clubs are suited to support a few great young talents and the rest of us are along for the ride. We pay for the few young talents and for our own children to play with them- thats the system we CHOOSE to support. If you don't like it, move on and play rec. in middle school. In the end, THE BEST PLAYERS PLAY and will play most of the game in order to win. Not to get better, but to win. That is how the club system is set up. To win. Period. In middle school, it can be different if you choose to support other systems where everyone can play for the sake of playing and not to play to make a name for the club or themselves. For today, you choose to pay Dukes, to play with Dukes, so you can be a part of a winning team (most of the time). Happy new year.


This is someone who clearly has no idea what it means to be a COACH!! Sir with all do respect there is much more to coaching then "WINNING" and if you don't understand that than I feel sorry for your team.



He does. Its just his philosophy of coaching is much different than yours. Luckily most coaches dont coach like he does or many late blooming players or new to the game players would get discouraged and quit playing after a while..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/02/18 05:52 PM
New year as teams get ready for Spring what will HOCO Elite look like? will they take 7 or 8 teams? Who is added or drops from last year's AAA Div.

In:
CB
Crabs
Looneys
NL
Bethesda
Hawks
FCA
On the bubble:
91
MadLax
Best of the rest?:
Cavalier
SR
VLC
Lax Factory
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/02/18 06:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New year as teams get ready for Spring what will HOCO Elite look like? will they take 7 or 8 teams? Who is added or drops from last year's AAA Div.

In:
CB
Crabs
Looneys
NL
Bethesda
Hawks
FCA
On the bubble:
91
MadLax
Best of the rest?:
Cavalier
SR
VLC
Lax Factory


You left out Evergreen...the only team anyone needs to know!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/02/18 06:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New year as teams get ready for Spring what will HOCO Elite look like? will they take 7 or 8 teams? Who is added or drops from last year's AAA Div.

In:
CB
Crabs
Looneys
NL
Bethesda
Hawks
FCA
On the bubble:
91
MadLax
Best of the rest?:
Cavalier
SR
VLC
Lax Factory



I would agree with the Teams listed in the Elite Division to make 7 teams; in order to add an 8th the bubble teams should be VLC and South River. 91 and Madlax are A teams at best trying to play AA. For 91 to be listed as a team playing for the 2023 National Title run by Millon is absurd to say the least. I think VLC handled 91 pretty easily 9-1 at the Polo Grounds.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/02/18 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New year as teams get ready for Spring what will HOCO Elite look like? will they take 7 or 8 teams? Who is added or drops from last year's AAA Div.

In:
CB
Crabs
Looneys
NL
Bethesda
Hawks
FCA
On the bubble:
91
MadLax
Best of the rest?:
Cavalier
SR
VLC
Lax Factory



91.MD aren't on the bubble, their bubble burst! They will be on par with teams similar to FCA white, Looney's green and Laxworld.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/02/18 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New year as teams get ready for Spring what will HOCO Elite look like? will they take 7 or 8 teams? Who is added or drops from last year's AAA Div.

In:
CB
Crabs
Looneys
NL
Bethesda
Hawks
FCA
On the bubble:
91
MadLax
Best of the rest?:
Cavalier
SR
VLC
Lax Factory



91.MD aren't on the bubble, their bubble burst! They will be on par with teams similar to FCA white, Looney's green and Laxworld.


That a Low blow!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/02/18 09:19 PM
VLC belongs in A, as does 91 and MadLax. VLC lost to Lax Factory in the fall. CM will never let MadLax be a part of the A division though. South River should step up since they've won the A division the last 2 years. They have the size to compete, just not sure they have the skill.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/02/18 10:03 PM
VLC destroyed Team 91 and lost to both NL and Bethesda by a couple goals. God you keep repeating the same thing over and over.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/02/18 11:28 PM
VLC definitely an Elite team, beat 91 who beat Club Blue and South River in the fall HoCo AA & A champs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 01:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone told me about the Lax forum talking so much about Flat Brim. This is Flat Brim- FB. Anyone whose boys have played on the teams I have been so fortunate to coach or be apart of Lacrosse clinics/camps that I was asked to be on their staff know that I give my all for the boys and keep a fun learning environment for them. Pretty disturbing to read such disappointing comments. As I say to all the boys I coach...be a gentleman outside the lines and a beast inside the lines. Be kind and considerate to people and treat people with respect. I will practice what I preach and only respond to these posts by saying: I was asked to coach the mid Atlantic warrior team; I was asked to coach some of the Baltimore/Md “all star” type teams; and now asked to keep it going with the Atlantic Coast Stars team. The warrior team played a very talented LI team and we were fortunate to win the tourney. The ACS team played a solid dukes team to win the tourney. Very difficult to beat a solid team two times in the same tourney. Sorry that parents feel the way they do abouit me but please know that I give my all to the boys....it’s all about their continued growth and development. I have learned a lot from some of my past actions for defending the boys on the field and I am not perfect nor is anyone else. It all about being accountable for my actions to become a better coach. It is a privilege to coach this stellar ACS team along with having such wonderful parents. I am not coaching the Crabs 2023 because I committed to coaching this team for two years. I am not coaching the mid atlantic warrior team. All the best to everyone this upcoming lacrosse season. Anyone who knows me knows that I care and the boys come first and foremost.


Just to be clear:
You were asked to coach at Bel Air, then asked to coach at Carroll Manor, then asked to coach at Koopers, then asked to coach at Looneys, then asked to coach at Crabs, then asked to coach the Warrior team, then asked to coach the Atlantic Stars team? Did I miss anything? That's quite a nomadic existence in just a few years of youth lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 01:08 PM
I just want to take the time to Congratulate the Atlantic Coast Stars! They are a very talented group of young men and coaches!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 01:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone told me about the Lax forum talking so much about Flat Brim. This is Flat Brim- FB. Anyone whose boys have played on the teams I have been so fortunate to coach or be apart of Lacrosse clinics/camps that I was asked to be on their staff know that I give my all for the boys and keep a fun learning environment for them. Pretty disturbing to read such disappointing comments. As I say to all the boys I coach...be a gentleman outside the lines and a beast inside the lines. Be kind and considerate to people and treat people with respect. I will practice what I preach and only respond to these posts by saying: I was asked to coach the mid Atlantic warrior team; I was asked to coach some of the Baltimore/Md “all star” type teams; and now asked to keep it going with the Atlantic Coast Stars team. The warrior team played a very talented LI team and we were fortunate to win the tourney. The ACS team played a solid dukes team to win the tourney. Very difficult to beat a solid team two times in the same tourney. Sorry that parents feel the way they do abouit me but please know that I give my all to the boys....it’s all about their continued growth and development. I have learned a lot from some of my past actions for defending the boys on the field and I am not perfect nor is anyone else. It all about being accountable for my actions to become a better coach. It is a privilege to coach this stellar ACS team along with having such wonderful parents. I am not coaching the Crabs 2023 because I committed to coaching this team for two years. I am not coaching the mid atlantic warrior team. All the best to everyone this upcoming lacrosse season. Anyone who knows me knows that I care and the boys come first and foremost.


Just to be clear:
You were asked to coach at Bel Air, then asked to coach at Carroll Manor, then asked to coach at Koopers, then asked to coach at Looneys, then asked to coach at Crabs, then asked to coach the Warrior team, then asked to coach the Atlantic Stars team? Did I miss anything? That's quite a nomadic existence in just a few years of youth lacrosse.


Ouch.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 01:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone told me about the Lax forum talking so much about Flat Brim. This is Flat Brim- FB. Anyone whose boys have played on the teams I have been so fortunate to coach or be apart of Lacrosse clinics/camps that I was asked to be on their staff know that I give my all for the boys and keep a fun learning environment for them. Pretty disturbing to read such disappointing comments. As I say to all the boys I coach...be a gentleman outside the lines and a beast inside the lines. Be kind and considerate to people and treat people with respect. I will practice what I preach and only respond to these posts by saying: I was asked to coach the mid Atlantic warrior team; I was asked to coach some of the Baltimore/Md “all star” type teams; and now asked to keep it going with the Atlantic Coast Stars team. The warrior team played a very talented LI team and we were fortunate to win the tourney. The ACS team played a solid dukes team to win the tourney. Very difficult to beat a solid team two times in the same tourney. Sorry that parents feel the way they do abouit me but please know that I give my all to the boys....it’s all about their continued growth and development. I have learned a lot from some of my past actions for defending the boys on the field and I am not perfect nor is anyone else. It all about being accountable for my actions to become a better coach. It is a privilege to coach this stellar ACS team along with having such wonderful parents. I am not coaching the Crabs 2023 because I committed to coaching this team for two years. I am not coaching the mid atlantic warrior team. All the best to everyone this upcoming lacrosse season. Anyone who knows me knows that I care and the boys come first and foremost.


Just to be clear:
You were asked to coach at Bel Air, then asked to coach at Carroll Manor, then asked to coach at Koopers, then asked to coach at Looneys, then asked to coach at Crabs, then asked to coach the Warrior team, then asked to coach the Atlantic Stars team? Did I miss anything? That's quite a nomadic existence in just a few years of youth lacrosse.


Or was it... asked to leave Bel Air, then asked to leave Carroll Manor, then asked to leave Koopers, then asked to leave Looney's, then asked to leave the Crabs, then not invited back to the Warrior team....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 02:18 PM
The great thing about this sport is all of these coaches have a great relationship with each other. I know parents think they can play coaches against each other somehow thinking this will better their child. The fact is coaches no matter what team have a mutual respect for one another. The coaches know the time and effort they put in on and off the field. I can only imagine what they think of the parents who perpetuate drama. It is great when High School comes around and your kid barely makes Fresh-Soph! That’s when you fade into the background and no one even remembers your name.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 02:26 PM
Or is it mad that your kid isn’t on the team?! You seem kind of mad!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 03:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone told me about the Lax forum talking so much about Flat Brim. This is Flat Brim- FB. Anyone whose boys have played on the teams I have been so fortunate to coach or be apart of Lacrosse clinics/camps that I was asked to be on their staff know that I give my all for the boys and keep a fun learning environment for them. Pretty disturbing to read such disappointing comments. As I say to all the boys I coach...be a gentleman outside the lines and a beast inside the lines. Be kind and considerate to people and treat people with respect. I will practice what I preach and only respond to these posts by saying: I was asked to coach the mid Atlantic warrior team; I was asked to coach some of the Baltimore/Md “all star” type teams; and now asked to keep it going with the Atlantic Coast Stars team. The warrior team played a very talented LI team and we were fortunate to win the tourney. The ACS team played a solid dukes team to win the tourney. Very difficult to beat a solid team two times in the same tourney. Sorry that parents feel the way they do abouit me but please know that I give my all to the boys....it’s all about their continued growth and development. I have learned a lot from some of my past actions for defending the boys on the field and I am not perfect nor is anyone else. It all about being accountable for my actions to become a better coach. It is a privilege to coach this stellar ACS team along with having such wonderful parents. I am not coaching the Crabs 2023 because I committed to coaching this team for two years. I am not coaching the mid atlantic warrior team. All the best to everyone this upcoming lacrosse season. Anyone who knows me knows that I care and the boys come first and foremost.


Just to be clear:
You were asked to coach at Bel Air, then asked to coach at Carroll Manor, then asked to coach at Koopers, then asked to coach at Looneys, then asked to coach at Crabs, then asked to coach the Warrior team, then asked to coach the Atlantic Stars team? Did I miss anything? That's quite a nomadic existence in just a few years of youth lacrosse.


Or was it... asked to leave Bel Air, then asked to leave Carroll Manor, then asked to leave Koopers, then asked to leave Looney's, then asked to leave the Crabs, then not invited back to the Warrior team....


To be fair, he was only asked to leave Bel Air and Looneys. Total buffoon. My son played for him in the past and no he wasn't cut from one of his teams. He wears out his welcome wherever he goes with his antics. Even his co-coach at Looneys had enough after a few years together.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone told me about the Lax forum talking so much about Flat Brim. This is Flat Brim- FB. Anyone whose boys have played on the teams I have been so fortunate to coach or be apart of Lacrosse clinics/camps that I was asked to be on their staff know that I give my all for the boys and keep a fun learning environment for them. Pretty disturbing to read such disappointing comments. As I say to all the boys I coach...be a gentleman outside the lines and a beast inside the lines. Be kind and considerate to people and treat people with respect. I will practice what I preach and only respond to these posts by saying: I was asked to coach the mid Atlantic warrior team; I was asked to coach some of the Baltimore/Md “all star” type teams; and now asked to keep it going with the Atlantic Coast Stars team. The warrior team played a very talented LI team and we were fortunate to win the tourney. The ACS team played a solid dukes team to win the tourney. Very difficult to beat a solid team two times in the same tourney. Sorry that parents feel the way they do abouit me but please know that I give my all to the boys....it’s all about their continued growth and development. I have learned a lot from some of my past actions for defending the boys on the field and I am not perfect nor is anyone else. It all about being accountable for my actions to become a better coach. It is a privilege to coach this stellar ACS team along with having such wonderful parents. I am not coaching the Crabs 2023 because I committed to coaching this team for two years. I am not coaching the mid atlantic warrior team. All the best to everyone this upcoming lacrosse season. Anyone who knows me knows that I care and the boys come first and foremost.


Just to be clear:
You were asked to coach at Bel Air, then asked to coach at Carroll Manor, then asked to coach at Koopers, then asked to coach at Looneys, then asked to coach at Crabs, then asked to coach the Warrior team, then asked to coach the Atlantic Stars team? Did I miss anything? That's quite a nomadic existence in just a few years of youth lacrosse.


Or was it... asked to leave Bel Air, then asked to leave Carroll Manor, then asked to leave Koopers, then asked to leave Looney's, then asked to leave the Crabs, then not invited back to the Warrior team....



Unless Flat Brim moves to Leesburg and coaches Evergreen I think we need to create a new N.VA and seperate MD thread as this is getting old. Why are a few dads obsessed with one youth coach? Kinda creepy if you ask me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 03:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The great thing about this sport is all of these coaches have a great relationship with each other. I know parents think they can play coaches against each other somehow thinking this will better their child. The fact is coaches no matter what team have a mutual respect for one another. The coaches know the time and effort they put in on and off the field. I can only imagine what they think of the parents who perpetuate drama. It is great when High School comes around and your kid barely makes Fresh-Soph! That’s when you fade into the background and no one even remembers your name.

Funniest thing I ever heard and I've been both a coach and parent. I've heard many coaches criticize their colleagues, sometimes with cause.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 03:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone told me about the Lax forum talking so much about Flat Brim. This is Flat Brim- FB. Anyone whose boys have played on the teams I have been so fortunate to coach or be apart of Lacrosse clinics/camps that I was asked to be on their staff know that I give my all for the boys and keep a fun learning environment for them. Pretty disturbing to read such disappointing comments. As I say to all the boys I coach...be a gentleman outside the lines and a beast inside the lines. Be kind and considerate to people and treat people with respect. I will practice what I preach and only respond to these posts by saying: I was asked to coach the mid Atlantic warrior team; I was asked to coach some of the Baltimore/Md “all star” type teams; and now asked to keep it going with the Atlantic Coast Stars team. The warrior team played a very talented LI team and we were fortunate to win the tourney. The ACS team played a solid dukes team to win the tourney. Very difficult to beat a solid team two times in the same tourney. Sorry that parents feel the way they do abouit me but please know that I give my all to the boys....it’s all about their continued growth and development. I have learned a lot from some of my past actions for defending the boys on the field and I am not perfect nor is anyone else. It all about being accountable for my actions to become a better coach. It is a privilege to coach this stellar ACS team along with having such wonderful parents. I am not coaching the Crabs 2023 because I committed to coaching this team for two years. I am not coaching the mid atlantic warrior team. All the best to everyone this upcoming lacrosse season. Anyone who knows me knows that I care and the boys come first and foremost.


Just to be clear:
You were asked to coach at Bel Air, then asked to coach at Carroll Manor, then asked to coach at Koopers, then asked to coach at Looneys, then asked to coach at Crabs, then asked to coach the Warrior team, then asked to coach the Atlantic Stars team? Did I miss anything? That's quite a nomadic existence in just a few years of youth lacrosse.


Or was it... asked to leave Bel Air, then asked to leave Carroll Manor, then asked to leave Koopers, then asked to leave Looney's, then asked to leave the Crabs, then not invited back to the Warrior team....


To be fair, he was only asked to leave Bel Air and Looneys. Total buffoon. My son played for him in the past and no he wasn't cut from one of his teams. He wears out his welcome wherever he goes with his antics. Even his co-coach at Looneys had enough after a few years together.

It's hard for a head coach to justify keeping him on the sidelines given the bench penalties he garners.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 04:00 PM
You are only mad because his teams are successful! Your timing proves it. Every time he wins you get angry. My kid plays for him and has for many years. My son has learned a lot from him. His coaching style is not for everyone.
I’m the person who told him about this forum. Whether you like him or not, your comments are disturbing. You follow his every move. I wanted him to be aware. When I don’t like someone I disassociate myself from them. That is what adults do. It’s not just your comments but you watch his every move it is disconcerting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 04:24 PM
Yes, all coaches criticize each other! Some even get in fights with other coaches on their own team. When it comes down to it they respect one another a lot more than self centered parents. Every time you complain to ANY coach about another coach it is an instant red flag! By now in this small group of club teams, parents and kids everyone knows where the drama comes from.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 06:14 PM
You we’re probably looking at The Tourney App the whole time ACS was playing in Florida! You know you were you creepy stalker! Make sure to check out how there were hardly any goals scored against! You probably have it plugged into your spreadsheet you creepy stalker!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 06:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, all coaches criticize each other! Some even get in fights with other coaches on their own team. When it comes down to it they respect one another a lot more than self centered parents. Every time you complain to ANY coach about another coach it is an instant red flag! By now in this small group of club teams, parents and kids everyone knows where the drama comes from.

Its amazing how the Dukes and now ACS has bastardized that tournament. 4 teams in a bracket? There's just not a market for holdback national teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 06:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New year as teams get ready for Spring what will HOCO Elite look like? will they take 7 or 8 teams? Who is added or drops from last year's AAA Div.

In:
CB
Crabs
Looneys
NL
Bethesda
Hawks
FCA
On the bubble:
91
MadLax
Best of the rest?:
Cavalier
SR
VLC
Lax Factory


Wait a second....Why isn't the Flat-Brimmed coached Atlantic Coast Stars listed?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 07:04 PM
Stalker
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 07:14 PM
To be clear...This is the funniest and most accurate post!


Originally Posted by Anonymous
You we’re probably looking at The Tourney App the whole time ACS was playing in Florida! You know you were you creepy stalker! Make sure to check out how there were hardly any goals scored against! You probably have it plugged into your spreadsheet you creepy stalker!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 07:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, all coaches criticize each other! Some even get in fights with other coaches on their own team. When it comes down to it they respect one another a lot more than self centered parents. Every time you complain to ANY coach about another coach it is an instant red flag! By now in this small group of club teams, parents and kids everyone knows where the drama comes from.

Its amazing how the Dukes and now ACS has bastardized that tournament. 4 teams in a bracket? There's just not a market for holdback national teams.


No holdbacks on ACS... I know it is hard to believe. Just appreciate how good those boys are!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 07:31 PM
Just to be clear:
You are a stalker
Or is it...you’re a s&$t talker
To be fair...you are both
Just so we are clear...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 08:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, all coaches criticize each other! Some even get in fights with other coaches on their own team. When it comes down to it they respect one another a lot more than self centered parents. Every time you complain to ANY coach about another coach it is an instant red flag! By now in this small group of club teams, parents and kids everyone knows where the drama comes from.

Its amazing how the Dukes and now ACS has bastardized that tournament. 4 teams in a bracket? There's just not a market for holdback national teams.


No holdbacks on ACS... I know it is hard to believe. Just appreciate how good those boys are!


I can appreciate the age cutoff for this tournament is 1/1/04 vs USL 11/1/04 and that suits your narrative perfectly. That being said, how many teams did you need to draw from to beat some local Florida and Georgia team?? Your all STARS!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 08:15 PM


ACS goalies were on point!

Originally Posted by Anonymous
To be clear...This is the funniest and most accurate post!


Originally Posted by Anonymous
You we’re probably looking at The Tourney App the whole time ACS was playing in Florida! You know you were you creepy stalker! Make sure to check out how there were hardly any goals scored against! You probably have it plugged into your spreadsheet you creepy stalker!

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 09:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone told me about the Lax forum talking so much about Flat Brim. This is Flat Brim- FB. Anyone whose boys have played on the teams I have been so fortunate to coach or be apart of Lacrosse clinics/camps that I was asked to be on their staff know that I give my all for the boys and keep a fun learning environment for them. Pretty disturbing to read such disappointing comments. As I say to all the boys I coach...be a gentleman outside the lines and a beast inside the lines. Be kind and considerate to people and treat people with respect. I will practice what I preach and only respond to these posts by saying: I was asked to coach the mid Atlantic warrior team; I was asked to coach some of the Baltimore/Md “all star” type teams; and now asked to keep it going with the Atlantic Coast Stars team. The warrior team played a very talented LI team and we were fortunate to win the tourney. The ACS team played a solid dukes team to win the tourney. Very difficult to beat a solid team two times in the same tourney. Sorry that parents feel the way they do abouit me but please know that I give my all to the boys....it’s all about their continued growth and development. I have learned a lot from some of my past actions for defending the boys on the field and I am not perfect nor is anyone else. It all about being accountable for my actions to become a better coach. It is a privilege to coach this stellar ACS team along with having such wonderful parents. I am not coaching the Crabs 2023 because I committed to coaching this team for two years. I am not coaching the mid atlantic warrior team. All the best to everyone this upcoming lacrosse season. Anyone who knows me knows that I care and the boys come first and foremost.


Just to be clear:
You were asked to coach at Bel Air, then asked to coach at Carroll Manor, then asked to coach at Koopers, then asked to coach at Looneys, then asked to coach at Crabs, then asked to coach the Warrior team, then asked to coach the Atlantic Stars team? Did I miss anything? That's quite a nomadic existence in just a few years of youth lacrosse.


Or was it... asked to leave Bel Air, then asked to leave Carroll Manor, then asked to leave Koopers, then asked to leave Looney's, then asked to leave the Crabs, then not invited back to the Warrior team....


To be fair, he was only asked to leave Bel Air and Looneys. Total buffoon. My son played for him in the past and no he wasn't cut from one of his teams. He wears out his welcome wherever he goes with his antics. Even his co-coach at Looneys had enough after a few years together.


also asked to leave Fallston, didn't even last a season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 01/03/18 10:16 PM
I heard the ACS goalie mad the All Star Team! Must be a great goalie!

ACS goalies were on point!
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