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18-6. Never forget.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
18-6. Never forget.


10-4 you either
Will the Dbags lose more games in 1 weekend then than the Hawks do all year like last year?
I cannot believe this is how the forum is starting. Nether one of your programs is that important
Knock it off you guys... these are kids teams not the NBA... you dads have nothing to do with the outcomes of the boys lacrosse games or raising each others children. Move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will the Dbags lose more games in 1 weekend then than the Hawks do all year like last year?


What a pathetic individual you are to call a youth lacrosse team Dbags. Notice I didn't call you a human being, you are waaay below that.
Diamondbacks rank 3rd in the country Hawks not even rank ...bottom line
The sad thing is the Hawks are calling the Diamondbacks players to come play for the Hawks . They could take your sons position
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will the Dbags lose more games in 1 weekend then than the Hawks do all year like last year?


What a pathetic individual you are to call a youth lacrosse team Dbags. Notice I didn't call you a human being, you are waaay below that.


Thanks Craig. Notice I didn't call you coach because you are waaay below that.
18-6
10-3
Another year of these two hammerheads going back and forth about the Hawks and Diamondbacks! Keep making Anne Arundel County proud you d-nozzles.
Hawks choke couldn't get it done cheating in the last tournament ... face off guy cheating ... 10-4
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will the Dbags lose more games in 1 weekend then than the Hawks do all year like last year?


What a pathetic individual you are to call a youth lacrosse team Dbags. Notice I didn't call you a human being, you are waaay below that.


Thanks Craig. Notice I didn't call you coach because you are waaay below that.
18-6
10-3
. Sorry bud but I'm not Craig, not even associated with either team but..... I'm not calling you an idiot simply because you are waaaaay below an idiot. You seem to be an immature POS, that simple.
Is it possible this year that if you call out a kid or a specific team that you post your name
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Diamondbacks rank 3rd in the country Hawks not even rank ...bottom line


Sounds like a legitimate poll to me.

Definitely only 2 teams in the country better than Diamondbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Knock it off you guys... these are kids teams not the NBA... you dads have nothing to do with the outcomes of the boys lacrosse games or raising each others children. Move on.


Unless they are the coaches on the sidelines.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Diamondbacks rank 3rd in the country Hawks not even rank ...bottom line


Sounds like a legitimate poll to me.

Definitely only 2 teams in the country better than Diamondbacks.



You are correct, but the two that are better are both girls teams.
There is no national ranking for any any team. Get a life.
Just because you are older, doesn't mean your better.
Igloo and express and they are younger the best teams World Series champs and 2022 national champs says it all
As a parent of a high school Jr. This thread cracks me up. No one on here will care one bit about your teams rankings in 12 months. You will all be locked into your sons high school team and the depth chart. And when you show back up for summer ball you will only care about what college coaches will be watching my son and can he play D1,2,or 3
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is no national ranking for any any team. Get a life.


You need to tell inside lacrosse then, because they are posting one on their site.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent of a high school Jr. This thread cracks me up. No one on here will care one bit about your teams rankings in 12 months. You will all be locked into your sons high school team and the depth chart. And when you show back up for summer ball you will only care about what college coaches will be watching my son and can he play D1,2,or 3


As the parent of a college sophomore, I laugh at your concerns about high school depth chart and recruiting.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent of a high school Jr. This thread cracks me up. No one on here will care one bit about your teams rankings in 12 months. You will all be locked into your sons high school team and the depth chart. And when you show back up for summer ball you will only care about what college coaches will be watching my son and can he play D1,2,or 3


As the parent of a college sophomore, I laugh at your concerns about high school depth chart and recruiting.


See you think you are funny but you are not smart enough to follow the structure of the post. You did not list the things you are worrying about with a college soph. So make a note, if I am going to try and be funny complete the act and not do it half as s .
As someone who has seen it all (played, coached at almost every level not pro, dad), when your oldest is in rec, assuming he's good enough you want him to play up for a very good team and a great position coach: when he moves into high school, the depth chart and recruiting becomes paramount (until the new rule it started in freshman year). Assuming he got into a good academic college (that's the biggest reason they play lacrosse in our family), then you worry about his education/career aka grades, good internships and a viable major. Lacrosse is only an option if he's killing it in school. You get more mellow the more you go through this process (with each kid). Less about lacrosse and more about, are we raising a well adjusted young man who is a good person and can support himself and his family financially.
Thank you for inserting an educated post! Finally someone who cares about a well adjusted person & not just 8th grade club lacrosse!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you for inserting an educated post! Finally someone who cares about a well adjusted person & not just 8th grade club lacrosse!


Thanks dad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent of a high school Jr. This thread cracks me up. No one on here will care one bit about your teams rankings in 12 months. You will all be locked into your sons high school team and the depth chart. And when you show back up for summer ball you will only care about what college coaches will be watching my son and can he play D1,2,or 3


As the parent of a college sophomore, I laugh at your concerns about high school depth chart and recruiting.


You didnt laugh when your child was at this grade. But it is always nice to look back and think you were superior.
Duke's did another beat down today to Long Island Express 10-3 . Hawks was 10-4 ....
How many boys from MD went to Hofstra this weekend to try out for the Dukes National Team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Duke's did another beat down today to Long Island Express 10-3 . Hawks was 10-4 ....


It was 12-3
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many boys from MD went to Hofstra this weekend to try out for the Dukes National Team?


Around 15
So less than 20 kids showed up for 91 tryouts. And a bunch of kids have left again including 2 coaches and their sons.

What is going on there?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Duke's did another beat down today to Long Island Express 10-3 . Hawks was 10-4 ....


It was 12-3


So what? It is 8th grade lacrosse and it is irrelevant. What recruiting tournaments are 2022 Dukes Nationals team gonna play in when the boys are in 9th and 10th grade? Answer is zero. All of the best clubs play in the same recruiting tourneys. You think a kid from Crabs, Team 91, or better yet the Dukes HS team is gonna be allowed to play for DN in the same tourney? But hey, keeping track of 8th grade lacrosse scores is thing to do now I guess
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So less than 20 kids showed up for 91 tryouts. And a bunch of kids have left again including 2 coaches and their sons.

What is going on there?


Bad weekend for tryouts.

People on vacations.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Duke's did another beat down today to Long Island Express 10-3 . Hawks was 10-4 ....


It was 12-3


So what? It is 8th grade lacrosse and it is irrelevant. What recruiting tournaments are 2022 Dukes Nationals team gonna play in when the boys are in 9th and 10th grade? Answer is zero. All of the best clubs play in the same recruiting tourneys. You think a kid from Crabs, Team 91, or better yet the Dukes HS team is gonna be allowed to play for DN in the same tourney? But hey, keeping track of 8th grade lacrosse scores is thing to do now I guess


First off, what a [lacrosse]. Secondly, God forbid that a bunch of really good players get together once a month and actually have fun playing together. Their minicamps are a great 3 hours of lacrosse and worth the small fee alone. And to be able to step on the field and win against the teams they play without real practices is a testament to those kids and coaches. Stop hating on these kids. You have no idea what tournaments they will play in come high school. There are things in motion to keep these kids together. So you can spout all the nonsense you want Hawks dad. Get used to your beatings.
Any surprises at tryouts this past weekend? Md91 FCA and RR all had first tryouts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So less than 20 kids showed up for 91 tryouts. And a bunch of kids have left again including 2 coaches and their sons.

What is going on there?

They have reached their threshold of crazy MM.
You sound a little pissed your team must lost to them..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many boys from MD went to Hofstra this weekend to try out for the Dukes National Team?


Around 15



What teams were they from?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Duke's did another beat down today to Long Island Express 10-3 . Hawks was 10-4 ....


It was 12-3


So what? It is 8th grade lacrosse and it is irrelevant. What recruiting tournaments are 2022 Dukes Nationals team gonna play in when the boys are in 9th and 10th grade? Answer is zero. All of the best clubs play in the same recruiting tourneys. You think a kid from Crabs, Team 91, or better yet the Dukes HS team is gonna be allowed to play for DN in the same tourney? But hey, keeping track of 8th grade lacrosse scores is thing to do now I guess


First off, what a [lacrosse]. Secondly, God forbid that a bunch of really good players get together once a month and actually have fun playing together. Their minicamps are a great 3 hours of lacrosse and worth the small fee alone. And to be able to step on the field and win against the teams they play without real practices is a testament to those kids and coaches. Stop hating on these kids. You have no idea what tournaments they will play in come high school. There are things in motion to keep these kids together. So you can spout all the nonsense you want Hawks dad. Get used to your beatings.


Not a Hawks dad, but you sir are an [lacrosse].
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So less than 20 kids showed up for 91 tryouts. And a bunch of kids have left again including 2 coaches and their sons.

What is going on there?


Bad weekend for tryouts.

People on vacations.


Nope...people are finally sick of MM and his abusive crazy behavior!
Dukes will roll into HS years just like they do now... Coach Ebe and his group takes them 9-12. Every kid on that 2022 team will have the chance to go on to play in college someday IF that is what they decide they want to do. They will also continue to have opportunities to play with their home clubs and other teams, just like they do now. Its pretty simple... good kids, that CAN play good lacrosse, getting together to play GOOD lacrosse. Kids are property, they are kids. If you don't like the Dukes, don't play for them. Brag if you beat them, and whine when you lose. Its your life pal. Today, and right now, that is one heck of group of kids and one heck of a talented lacrosse team.
* typo, kids are NOT property...
Your use of capital letters for emphasis is impressive pal.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Duke's did another beat down today to Long Island Express 10-3 . Hawks was 10-4 ....


It was 12-3


So what? It is 8th grade lacrosse and it is irrelevant. What recruiting tournaments are 2022 Dukes Nationals team gonna play in when the boys are in 9th and 10th grade? Answer is zero. All of the best clubs play in the same recruiting tourneys. You think a kid from Crabs, Team 91, or better yet the Dukes HS team is gonna be allowed to play for DN in the same tourney? But hey, keeping track of 8th grade lacrosse scores is thing to do now I guess


First off, what a [lacrosse]. Secondly, God forbid that a bunch of really good players get together once a month and actually have fun playing together. Their minicamps are a great 3 hours of lacrosse and worth the small fee alone. And to be able to step on the field and win against the teams they play without real practices is a testament to those kids and coaches. Stop hating on these kids. You have no idea what tournaments they will play in come high school. There are things in motion to keep these kids together. So you can spout all the nonsense you want Hawks dad. Get used to your beatings.



Are the coaches really that great? Sounds like the club coaches have done a good job. How many of the players have grown up through the Dukes program?

I'm not sure I see the point of a Dukes Nationals if you're in Maryland, PA or NY. There are many options with quality coaching and connections for talented players with passion to learn, improve and get recruited in the HS years. I'm not doubting that these guys provide solid instruction at these "camps" and can aggregate some talent for tournament play. But if your kid is on a competitive AA team, he's playing year round as it is. I can't imagine trekking up to Long Island on one of the few summer weekends when the main club is not playing. Only to start the whole thing again with August tryouts. And for NCAA hopefuls in HS, they'll be doing showcases, prospect days, Under Armour tryouts...Burn out is real. I've seen it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Duke's did another beat down today to Long Island Express 10-3 . Hawks was 10-4 ....


It was 12-3


So what? It is 8th grade lacrosse and it is irrelevant. What recruiting tournaments are 2022 Dukes Nationals team gonna play in when the boys are in 9th and 10th grade? Answer is zero. All of the best clubs play in the same recruiting tourneys. You think a kid from Crabs, Team 91, or better yet the Dukes HS team is gonna be allowed to play for DN in the same tourney? But hey, keeping track of 8th grade lacrosse scores is thing to do now I guess


First off, what a [lacrosse]. Secondly, God forbid that a bunch of really good players get together once a month and actually have fun playing together. Their minicamps are a great 3 hours of lacrosse and worth the small fee alone. And to be able to step on the field and win against the teams they play without real practices is a testament to those kids and coaches. Stop hating on these kids. You have no idea what tournaments they will play in come high school. There are things in motion to keep these kids together. So you can spout all the nonsense you want Hawks dad. Get used to your beatings.


Not a Hawks dad, but you sir are an [lacrosse].




Not A Hawk dad either ;API daddies just can't stand it. Having fun is the name of the game. If playing for a team that has the top players from multiple states and rolling over on your year long club team is fun to you then have a blast. Most families with integrity and commitment ride with their main club win or lose. The only way you can beat Hawks, RR, MM, BLC is to teach your kid to jump ship then by all means have fun doing so. Just remember that if any of the top players from those teams decide to play for Dukes your kid will not. Especially at the positions API kids play . Everyone on this site is ecstatic the API kids are having fun finally. They sure do deserve it after a horrific year losing and putting up with their daddies. Same daddies that troll this site and talk [lacrosse] anonymously.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Duke's did another beat down today to Long Island Express 10-3 . Hawks was 10-4 ....


It was 12-3


So what? It is 8th grade lacrosse and it is irrelevant. What recruiting tournaments are 2022 Dukes Nationals team gonna play in when the boys are in 9th and 10th grade? Answer is zero. All of the best clubs play in the same recruiting tourneys. You think a kid from Crabs, Team 91, or better yet the Dukes HS team is gonna be allowed to play for DN in the same tourney? But hey, keeping track of 8th grade lacrosse scores is thing to do now I guess


The math is simple: The Duke's program has been doing this for 20 years at the high school level. The Duke's Nationals youth program follows the same model. The Duke's college recruiting history will speak for itself. As crazy as the college recruiting process is in this era, the college coaches will flock to where the top athletes are FIRST and aggressively. I know that this is a hate blog but just selfishly think about it as a parent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Duke's did another beat down today to Long Island Express 10-3 . Hawks was 10-4 ....


It was 12-3


So what? It is 8th grade lacrosse and it is irrelevant. What recruiting tournaments are 2022 Dukes Nationals team gonna play in when the boys are in 9th and 10th grade? Answer is zero. All of the best clubs play in the same recruiting tourneys. You think a kid from Crabs, Team 91, or better yet the Dukes HS team is gonna be allowed to play for DN in the same tourney? But hey, keeping track of 8th grade lacrosse scores is thing to do now I guess


First off, what a [lacrosse]. Secondly, God forbid that a bunch of really good players get together once a month and actually have fun playing together. Their minicamps are a great 3 hours of lacrosse and worth the small fee alone. And to be able to step on the field and win against the teams they play without real practices is a testament to those kids and coaches. Stop hating on these kids. You have no idea what tournaments they will play in come high school. There are things in motion to keep these kids together. So you can spout all the nonsense you want Hawks dad. Get used to your beatings.


Not a Hawks dad, but you sir are an [lacrosse].




Not A Hawk dad either ;API daddies just can't stand it. Having fun is the name of the game. If playing for a team that has the top players from multiple states and rolling over on your year long club team is fun to you then have a blast. Most families with integrity and commitment ride with their main club win or lose. The only way you can beat Hawks, RR, MM, BLC is to teach your kid to jump ship then by all means have fun doing so. Just remember that if any of the top players from those teams decide to play for Dukes your kid will not. Especially at the positions API kids play . Everyone on this site is ecstatic the API kids are having fun finally. They sure do deserve it after a horrific year losing and putting up with their daddies. Same daddies that troll this site and talk [lacrosse] anonymously.


I don't know what your hard on for API is, but there was only one API kid on the Dukes team that beat LI Express Sunday morning.


It was 12-3
[/quote]

So what? It is 8th grade lacrosse and it is irrelevant. What recruiting tournaments are 2022 Dukes Nationals team gonna play in when the boys are in 9th and 10th grade? Answer is zero. All of the best clubs play in the same recruiting tourneys. You think a kid from Crabs, Team 91, or better yet the Dukes HS team is gonna be allowed to play for DN in the same tourney? But hey, keeping track of 8th grade lacrosse scores is thing to do now I guess[/quote]

First off, what a [lacrosse]. Secondly, God forbid that a bunch of really good players get together once a month and actually have fun playing together. Their minicamps are a great 3 hours of lacrosse and worth the small fee alone. And to be able to step on the field and win against the teams they play without real practices is a testament to those kids and coaches. Stop hating on these kids. You have no idea what tournaments they will play in come high school. There are things in motion to keep these kids together. So you can spout all the nonsense you want Hawks dad. Get used to your beatings. [/quote]

Not a Hawks dad, but you sir are an [lacrosse].

[/quote]


Not A Hawk dad either ;API daddies just can't stand it. Having fun is the name of the game. If playing for a team that has the top players from multiple states and rolling over on your year long club team is fun to you then have a blast. Most families with integrity and commitment ride with their main club win or lose. The only way you can beat Hawks, RR, MM, BLC is to teach your kid to jump ship then by all means have fun doing so. Just remember that if any of the top players from those teams decide to play for Dukes your kid will not. Especially at the positions API kids play . Everyone on this site is ecstatic the API kids are having fun finally. They sure do deserve it after a horrific year losing and putting up with their daddies. Same daddies that troll this site and talk [lacrosse] anonymously.[/quote]

I don't know what your hard on for API is, but there was only one API kid on the Dukes team that beat LI Express Sunday morning.[/quote]

not true
As a parents of a kid who plays on DN it's extra lacrosse for him. Been playing for DN now almost 2 years. Been to just about every minicamp and tournament. Philly,Boston,Connecticut,Maryland,NY Long Island etc. The team does change from tournament to tournament but there is a core group of kids that has not. Don't put to much into the travel line BS. It's not follow by the coaches. My kid has been ranked 1 and low as 6 and still is on the travel line somewhere in between. I have seen kids come in and start that have never been to a minicamp. It is what it is. Most know that going into it. Minicamps are good. Tournaments are ok. Not for everyone if you want to travel meet and play with new kids check it out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous



Not A Hawk dad either ;API daddies just can't stand it. Having fun is the name of the game. If playing for a team that has the top players from multiple states and rolling over on your year long club team is fun to you then have a blast. Most families with integrity and commitment ride with their main club win or lose. The only way you can beat Hawks, RR, MM, BLC is to teach your kid to jump ship then by all means have fun doing so. Just remember that if any of the top players from those teams decide to play for Dukes your kid will not. Especially at the positions API kids play . Everyone on this site is ecstatic the API kids are having fun finally. They sure do deserve it after a horrific year losing and putting up with their daddies. Same daddies that troll this site and talk [lacrosse] anonymously.


I don't know what your hard on for API is, but there was only one API kid on the Dukes team that beat LI Express Sunday morning.[/quote]

not true
[/quote]

It's 100% true. While there are other Dbacks players that come to Dukes events, there was only one playing on Sunday.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



Not A Hawk dad either ;API daddies just can't stand it. Having fun is the name of the game. If playing for a team that has the top players from multiple states and rolling over on your year long club team is fun to you then have a blast. Most families with integrity and commitment ride with their main club win or lose. The only way you can beat Hawks, RR, MM, BLC is to teach your kid to jump ship then by all means have fun doing so. Just remember that if any of the top players from those teams decide to play for Dukes your kid will not. Especially at the positions API kids play . Everyone on this site is ecstatic the API kids are having fun finally. They sure do deserve it after a horrific year losing and putting up with their daddies. Same daddies that troll this site and talk [lacrosse] anonymously.


I don't know what your hard on for API is, but there was only one API kid on the Dukes team that beat LI Express Sunday morning.


not true
[/quote]

It's 100% true. While there are other Dbacks players that come to Dukes events, there was only one playing on Sunday.[/quote]

They didn't want them? Bring down the team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



Not A Hawk dad either ;API daddies just can't stand it. Having fun is the name of the game. If playing for a team that has the top players from multiple states and rolling over on your year long club team is fun to you then have a blast. Most families with integrity and commitment ride with their main club win or lose. The only way you can beat Hawks, RR, MM, BLC is to teach your kid to jump ship then by all means have fun doing so. Just remember that if any of the top players from those teams decide to play for Dukes your kid will not. Especially at the positions API kids play . Everyone on this site is ecstatic the API kids are having fun finally. They sure do deserve it after a horrific year losing and putting up with their daddies. Same daddies that troll this site and talk [lacrosse] anonymously.


I don't know what your hard on for API is, but there was only one API kid on the Dukes team that beat LI Express Sunday morning.


not true


It's 100% true. While there are other Dbacks players that come to Dukes events, there was only one playing on Sunday.[/quote]

They didn't want them? Bring down the team?
[/quote]

Or maybe it was because it was on Long Island on the first weekend of August and not everyone could make it.

This all started when the Hawks dad decided to talk crap about API by implying that Dukes mainly made up of API kids. This may have been the case a year ago but isn't anymore. There are some more changes coming to the Dukes team in the near future as well so things will continue to evolve.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



Not A Hawk dad either ;API daddies just can't stand it. Having fun is the name of the game. If playing for a team that has the top players from multiple states and rolling over on your year long club team is fun to you then have a blast. Most families with integrity and commitment ride with their main club win or lose. The only way you can beat Hawks, RR, MM, BLC is to teach your kid to jump ship then by all means have fun doing so. Just remember that if any of the top players from those teams decide to play for Dukes your kid will not. Especially at the positions API kids play . Everyone on this site is ecstatic the API kids are having fun finally. They sure do deserve it after a horrific year losing and putting up with their daddies. Same daddies that troll this site and talk [lacrosse] anonymously.


I don't know what your hard on for API is, but there was only one API kid on the Dukes team that beat LI Express Sunday morning.


not true
[/quote]

It's 100% true. While there are other Dbacks players that come to Dukes events, there was only one playing on Sunday.[/quote]

were the rest still tired from the flight
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



Not A Hawk dad either ;API daddies just can't stand it. Having fun is the name of the game. If playing for a team that has the top players from multiple states and rolling over on your year long club team is fun to you then have a blast. Most families with integrity and commitment ride with their main club win or lose. The only way you can beat Hawks, RR, MM, BLC is to teach your kid to jump ship then by all means have fun doing so. Just remember that if any of the top players from those teams decide to play for Dukes your kid will not. Especially at the positions API kids play . Everyone on this site is ecstatic the API kids are having fun finally. They sure do deserve it after a horrific year losing and putting up with their daddies. Same daddies that troll this site and talk [lacrosse] anonymously.


I don't know what your hard on for API is, but there was only one API kid on the Dukes team that beat LI Express Sunday morning.


not true


It's 100% true. While there are other Dbacks players that come to Dukes events, there was only one playing on Sunday.


They didn't want them? Bring down the team?
[/quote]

Or maybe it was because it was on Long Island on the first weekend of August and not everyone could make it.

This all started when the Hawks dad decided to talk crap about API by implying that Dukes mainly made up of API kids. This may have been the case a year ago but isn't anymore. There are some more changes coming to the Dukes team in the near future as well so things will continue to evolve.[/quote]


It actually started when you and your low life daddies started talking [lacrosse] about the Hawks program and calling out players. Everyone on this site can attest to that. Just remember that who you might think is a certain club parent could very well be someone else. However you make it clear who you are and just how bitter you are. You guys really sold out API and Arden.What will you do if the top players from other teams start playing for Dukes and your son no longer has a spot. Oh wait, we all know the answer?
Talk [lacrosse] on an anynomous site while being a snake on the sidelines.
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.
Again with the Hawks/API nonsense? Can we start a Hawks/API thread so these 2 groups of moronic parents can stop hijacking every topic on this thread. FFS!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Who are 2022 kids. What's your point?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Who are 2022 kids. What's your point?

Not on-age 2022 kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Who are 2022 kids. What's your point?

Not on-age 2022 kids.


Whatever. There are fewer holdbacks on the Dukes 2022 team than on Crabs, FCA or Hawks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Who are 2022 kids. What's your point?

Not on-age 2022 kids.


Whatever. There are fewer holdbacks on the Dukes 2022 team than on Crabs, FCA or Hawks.



That is flat out a lie!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Who are 2022 kids. What's your point?

Not on-age 2022 kids.


Whatever. There are fewer holdbacks on the Dukes 2022 team than on Crabs, FCA or Hawks.


That is just pure BS, yep simply BS. The only team that comes close to Dukes 2022 in holdbacks is Hawks. Wait until next season, or maybe this fall when Hawks has quite a few 2021's dropping down to 2022. Hawks is going all in on loading teams with older kids. Known fact throughout the lax community.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Who are 2022 kids. What's your point?

Not on-age 2022 kids.


Whatever. There are fewer holdbacks on the Dukes 2022 team than on Crabs, FCA or Hawks.


That is just pure BS, yep simply BS. The only team that comes close to Dukes 2022 in holdbacks is Hawks. Wait until next season, or maybe this fall when Hawks has quite a few 2021's dropping down to 2022. Hawks is going all in on loading teams with older kids. Known fact throughout the lax community.


you are lying
So who will be the most improved team this year and what team drops off?

Great question? All the HOCO elite teams should try to find one tournament that they go to so there could be a gage.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Who are 2022 kids. What's your point?

Not on-age 2022 kids.


Whatever. There are fewer holdbacks on the Dukes 2022 team than on Crabs, FCA or Hawks.


That is just pure BS, yep simply BS. The only team that comes close to Dukes 2022 in holdbacks is Hawks. Wait until next season, or maybe this fall when Hawks has quite a few 2021's dropping down to 2022. Hawks is going all in on loading teams with older kids. Known fact throughout the lax community.


you are lying

Sorry to bust your bubble but it is true about Hawks. They will soon become the leader of holdbacks, look no further than their 2022 team this fall or their 2020 team. Just own up to it and stop the denial, no one is buying your denials.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Who are 2022 kids. What's your point?

Not on-age 2022 kids.


Whatever. There are fewer holdbacks on the Dukes 2022 team than on Crabs, FCA or Hawks.


That is just pure BS, yep simply BS. The only team that comes close to Dukes 2022 in holdbacks is Hawks. Wait until next season, or maybe this fall when Hawks has quite a few 2021's dropping down to 2022. Hawks is going all in on loading teams with older kids. Known fact throughout the lax community.


you are lying


You really don't know the lacrosse landscape if you think the Hawks are leaders in holdbacks. The Baltimore teams (Crabs, FCA, Looneys, etc) and Bethesda clubs (DC Ecpress, Madlax) have at least twice as many holdbacks as Hawks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So who will be the most improved team this year and what team drops off?


1st week of tryouts
- poor attendance at 91MD (Texas attendance many have been higher to offset)
- strong attendance at RR (six 91MD helmets spotted)





Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Who are 2022 kids. What's your point?

Not on-age 2022 kids.


Whatever. There are fewer holdbacks on the Dukes 2022 team than on Crabs, FCA or Hawks.


That is just pure BS, yep simply BS. The only team that comes close to Dukes 2022 in holdbacks is Hawks. Wait until next season, or maybe this fall when Hawks has quite a few 2021's dropping down to 2022. Hawks is going all in on loading teams with older kids. Known fact throughout the lax community.


You are STUPID. Already looking for an excuse for the coming season. Too funny
If a player turns 14 Aug 11th, does that make him a hold back?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Who are 2022 kids. What's your point?

Not on-age 2022 kids.


Whatever. There are fewer holdbacks on the Dukes 2022 team than on Crabs, FCA or Hawks.


That is just pure BS, yep simply BS. The only team that comes close to Dukes 2022 in holdbacks is Hawks. Wait until next season, or maybe this fall when Hawks has quite a few 2021's dropping down to 2022. Hawks is going all in on loading teams with older kids. Known fact throughout the lax community.


You are STUPID. Already looking for an excuse for the coming season. Too funny


No excuses needed. These teams, Hawks, FCA, crabs, Bethesda, etc... play in the 2022 graduation year league and tournaments. No one is breaking rules (unless there are upcoming 2021s playing on 2022 teams), so enough with the crying about hold backs. If your moral high road doesn't agree with the graduation year model, then have your son play in only age based leagues and tournaments. And if you don't think you can find any, grab the situational bull and start one. With all the crying about hold backs on these links, I am sure you will have to beat the kids and teams away.
Yep, the Hawks will practically be a 2021 team this year from what I hear
Not stupid at all. Why would they announce coaches for a b team on their website if they didn't have a bunch of older kids ready to bump their currrent a player's down?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Who are 2022 kids. What's your point?

Not on-age 2022 kids.


Whatever. There are fewer holdbacks on the Dukes 2022 team than on Crabs, FCA or Hawks.


That is just pure BS, yep simply BS. The only team that comes close to Dukes 2022 in holdbacks is Hawks. Wait until next season, or maybe this fall when Hawks has quite a few 2021's dropping down to 2022. Hawks is going all in on loading teams with older kids. Known fact throughout the lax community.


You are STUPID. Already looking for an excuse for the coming season. Too funny

No, you are the stupid one for the usual Hawk dad denial. So dad, just keep with your denial. No one is looking for an excuse for this fall or next season, just putting the truth out there. Live with it and knock off the denial.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not stupid at all. Why would they announce coaches for a b team on their website if they didn't have a bunch of older kids ready to bump their currrent a player's down?


it's actually simple, you count the number of kids trying out at each level and decide if you have enough players for two teams, then you get coaches for a black and green team, that way if kids want to stay in your organization, you aren't scrambling around at the last minute trying to field a second team. the hawks have had two teams at various grades for the past few years, it's nothing new
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So who will be the most improved team this year and what team drops off?


1st week of tryouts
- poor attendance at 91MD (Texas attendance many have been higher to offset)
- strong attendance at RR (six 91MD helmets spotted)






MM is going to have to fly in a lot more kids from Texas and probably the new Team 91 NC this year since he has lost at least 6 of his players and everyone is realizing what a lunatic he is!!!
If you are born before Sept. 1, you should be going into 9 th grade. If you repeated for academic reasons and are still in 8 grade you should be playing up in lacrosse. Pretty simple.
Lots of API helmets spotted at different tryouts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of API helmets spotted at different tryouts.


None at 91 or FCA.

So assuming you mean Roughriders since no one else has had tryouts.
Wow Igloo must have hit a nerve. National Championship backfired on team 91
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are born before Sept. 1, you should be going into 9 th grade. If you repeated for academic reasons and are still in 8 grade you should be playing up in lacrosse. Pretty simple.


True, but a couple points. That describes my son, and we tried to play 2021 but our club wouldn't allow it since it is grade based now. He always played on age until it went grade based.
Also, like it or not, it is best NOW to play 2022 because if not, you won't have spring lacrosse.
No API helmets at RR tryouts. Lots of other helmets
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No API helmets at RR tryouts. Lots of other helmets


So where were all these API helmets? Lax World?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are born before Sept. 1, you should be going into 9 th grade. If you repeated for academic reasons and are still in 8 grade you should be playing up in lacrosse. Pretty simple.


Mensa member: So if you're in 8th grade but should be going into the 9th grade, what private or public school is going to let you play spring lacrosse with them. There are no other 9th grade age rec or club teams that play in the spring. Oh I see, take the spring off and play with your 2021 team in the summer. The number of nitwits posting on these forums multiplies daily. A lot of non-athlete parents living through their kids. Life's not fair, The kids that study at Andover Prep have better teachers than yours, a lot of them are also older, many of them will crush their competition in college because they're better prepared. Welcome to life and stop complaining. By the way if your son was that good you would want him playing up to get better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Have you seen the DN 2023 Team? 2024 team or 2025 team??? Are they nothing without K21's also?? LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Dukes 2022 are nothing without the Koopers 2021 players.


Have you seen the DN 2023 Team? 2024 team or 2025 team??? Are they nothing without K21's also?? LOL



Those teams are nothing without some of their best players either. So there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are born before Sept. 1, you should be going into 9 th grade. If you repeated for academic reasons and are still in 8 grade you should be playing up in lacrosse. Pretty simple.


Mensa member: So if you're in 8th grade but should be going into the 9th grade, what private or public school is going to let you play spring lacrosse with them. There are no other 9th grade age rec or club teams that play in the spring. Oh I see, take the spring off and play with your 2021 team in the summer. The number of nitwits posting on these forums multiplies daily. A lot of non-athlete parents living through their kids. Life's not fair, The kids that study at Andover Prep have better teachers than yours, a lot of them are also older, many of them will crush their competition in college because they're better prepared. Welcome to life and stop complaining. By the way if your son was that good you would want him playing up to get better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are born before Sept. 1, you should be going into 9 th grade. If you repeated for academic reasons and are still in 8 grade you should be playing up in lacrosse. Pretty simple.


Mensa member: So if you're in 8th grade but should be going into the 9th grade, what private or public school is going to let you play spring lacrosse with them. There are no other 9th grade age rec or club teams that play in the spring. Oh I see, take the spring off and play with your 2021 team in the summer. The number of nitwits posting on these forums multiplies daily. A lot of non-athlete parents living through their kids. Life's not fair, The kids that study at Andover Prep have better teachers than yours, a lot of them are also older, many of them will crush their competition in college because they're better prepared. Welcome to life and stop complaining. By the way if your son was that good you would want him playing up to get better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are born before Sept. 1, you should be going into 9 th grade. If you repeated for academic reasons and are still in 8 mgrade you should be playing up in lacrosse. Pretty simple.


Mensa member: So if you're in 8th grade but should be going into the 9th grade, what private or public school is going to let you play spring lacrosse with them. There are no other 9th grade age rec or club teams that play in the spring. Oh I see, take the spring off and play with your 2021 team in the summer. The number of nitwits posting on these forums multiplies daily. A lot of non-athlete parents living through their kids. Life's not fair, The kids that study at Andover Prep have better teachers than yours, a lot of them are also older, many of them will crush their competition in college because they're better prepared. Welcome to life and stop complaining. By the way if your son was that good you would want him playing up to get better.


Mensa member: ha! The fact that you fail to see the irony in telling me life is not fair after you whine that your overage entitled reclass highly prepared butt kicking Andover Prep son of an athlete won't have anywhere to pway in the spwing because there's no spwing weague for 2021s... 😢😩
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So who will be the most improved team this year and what team drops off?


1st week of tryouts
- poor attendance at 91MD (Texas attendance many have been higher to offset)
- strong attendance at RR (six 91MD helmets spotted)






MM is going to have to fly in a lot more kids from Texas and probably the new Team 91 NC this year since he has lost at least 6 of his players and everyone is realizing what a lunatic he is!!!


I don't believe this to be accurate; the key players that "left' have been upgraded; particularly in Goal and Face Off. The 2022 will be much improved.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So who will be the most improved team this year and what team drops off?


1st week of tryouts
- poor attendance at 91MD (Texas attendance many have been higher to offset)
- strong attendance at RR (six 91MD helmets spotted)






MM is going to have to fly in a lot more kids from Texas and probably the new Team 91 NC this year since he has lost at least 6 of his players and everyone is realizing what a lunatic he is!!!


I don't believe this to be accurate; the key players that "left' have been upgraded; particularly in Goal and Face Off. The 2022 will be much improved.

Thanks Mark. We'll see about that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep, the Hawks will practically be a 2021 team this year from what I hear


Really? Wow! So Matt Hogan is going to lie and play freshman (2021) on an 8th grade team (2022)? Wow! How disappointing. I wonder what these kids high school coaches will say when they are forgoing JV or Varsity spots to play 8th grade? This has disaster written all over it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are born before Sept. 1, you should be going into 9 th grade. If you repeated for academic reasons and are still in 8 grade you should be playing up in lacrosse. Pretty simple.



What if you were born Sept 2 or even Aug 31 ? No repeating or maybe did repeat kindergarten , on the advice from every teacher and well within the rules of all school guidelines and until the middle of last year on board with all lacrosse guidelines. When Lacrosse decides to change the timeline again this year what will everyone be saying then. A few days or even weeks makes such a difference? Calling out all kids and suggesting they are cheaters is deplorable and flat out an excuse for most.
I completely agree that holding back in middle school or high school is a problem, but when almost all your sports is a U11-U13 with a year playing on the younger side a year playing on the older is fair.
For the most part the issue on this site is an excuse for most for why there son is lost a game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So who will be the most improved team this year and what team drops off?


1st week of tryouts
- poor attendance at 91MD (Texas attendance many have been higher to offset)
- strong attendance at RR (six 91MD helmets spotted)






MM is going to have to fly in a lot more kids from Texas and probably the new Team 91 NC this year since he has lost at least 6 of his players and everyone is realizing what a lunatic he is!!!


I don't believe this to be accurate; the key players that "left' have been upgraded; particularly in Goal and Face Off. The 2022 will be much improved.

Thanks Mark. We'll see about that.


Anytime; just informing the uninformed!
All these teams improving where are the players coming from? Some teams most be dropping off.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep, the Hawks will practically be a 2021 team this year from what I hear


Really? Wow! So Matt Hogan is going to lie and play freshman (2021) on an 8th grade team (2022)? Wow! How disappointing. I wonder what these kids high school coaches will say when they are forgoing JV or Varsity spots to play 8th grade? This has disaster written all over it.


As many as he will have, it will be far less than D.C. express, madlax, fca, and Crabs. Please stop acting like this is the team leading the holdback charge. Either you are ignorant of the entire lacrosse landscape or you have other issues with the Hawks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No API helmets at RR tryouts. Lots of other helmets


API goalie at RR.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So who will be the most improved team this year and what team drops off?


1st week of tryouts
- poor attendance at 91MD (Texas attendance many have been higher to offset)
- strong attendance at RR (six 91MD helmets spotted)






MM is going to have to fly in a lot more kids from Texas and probably the new Team 91 NC this year since he has lost at least 6 of his players and everyone is realizing what a lunatic he is!!!


I don't believe this to be accurate; the key players that "left' have been upgraded; particularly in Goal and Face Off. The 2022 will be much improved.

Thanks Mark. We'll see about that.


Anytime; just informing the uninformed!


The only one uninformed is MM himself. He just doesn't get how much of a SOB he is and how much he is not liked in youth lax. He is a total pos that is only interested in himself and his kid. Doesn't mean crap how much he knows or doesn't know about lax, no one wants to be associated or be around him.
Just trying to keep you informed Mark.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



1st week of tryouts
- poor attendance at 91MD (Texas attendance many have been higher to offset)
- strong attendance at RR (six 91MD helmets spotted)






MM is going to have to fly in a lot more kids from Texas and probably the new Team 91 NC this year since he has lost at least 6 of his players and everyone is realizing what a lunatic he is!!!


I don't believe this to be accurate; the key players that "left' have been upgraded; particularly in Goal and Face Off. The 2022 will be much improved.

Thanks Mark. We'll see about that.


Anytime; just informing the uninformed!


The only one uninformed is MM himself. He just doesn't get how much of a SOB he is and how much he is not liked in youth lax. He is a total pos that is only interested in himself and his kid. Doesn't mean crap how much he knows or doesn't know about lax, no one wants to be associated or be around him.
Just trying to keep you informed Mark.


OUCH!! MM is getting a bad reputation..Is there anyone that will stick up for him??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are born before Sept. 1, you should be going into 9 th grade. If you repeated for academic reasons and are still in 8 grade you should be playing up in lacrosse. Pretty simple.



What if you were born Sept 2 or even Aug 31 ? No repeating or maybe did repeat kindergarten , on the advice from every teacher and well within the rules of all school guidelines and until the middle of last year on board with all lacrosse guidelines. When Lacrosse decides to change the timeline again this year what will everyone be saying then. A few days or even weeks makes such a difference? Calling out all kids and suggesting they are cheaters is deplorable and flat out an excuse for most.
I completely agree that holding back in middle school or high school is a problem, but when almost all your sports is a U11-U13 with a year playing on the younger side a year playing on the older is fair.
For the most part the issue on this site is an excuse for most for why there son is lost a game.


No difference in age of a heldback kid and a prefirst kid.. Age is what youth sports goes by in all YOUTH Sports except lacrosse. It may not be right for a small minority of kids to old..but they seemed to survive for 50 years until three to four years ago when the whole grade based garbage got started and let kids play down.
Wow, you seemed to have hit every crazy obsessive branch on the way up the nut tree. How about giving the kids a break. You may like the lacrosse all day every day but your kid will pay in the long run.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So who will be the most improved team this year and what team drops off?


1st week of tryouts
- poor attendance at 91MD (Texas attendance many have been higher to offset)
- strong attendance at RR (six 91MD helmets spotted)






MM is going to have to fly in a lot more kids from Texas and probably the new Team 91 NC this year since he has lost at least 6 of his players and everyone is realizing what a lunatic he is!!!


I don't believe this to be accurate; the key players that "left' have been upgraded; particularly in Goal and Face Off. The 2022 will be much improved.


How? is MM not coaching anymore?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Duke's did another beat down today to Long Island Express 10-3 . Hawks was 10-4 ....


It was 12-3


Who cares? It's August. Give your son a break, or at least us on this board who could care less he got another t-shirt.
Totally depends on which players they lost. 2nd and 3rd string move every year to get more time. Did the starters move? Anyone have the scoop?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Duke's did another beat down today to Long Island Express 10-3 . Hawks was 10-4 ....


It was 12-3


Who cares? It's August. Give your son a break, or at least us on this board who could care less he got another t-shirt.


Then tell the clubs to start tryouts later. Yeah, it was our choice to go to lacrosse tryouts the first week of August.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep, the Hawks will practically be a 2021 team this year from what I hear


Really? Wow! So Matt Hogan is going to lie and play freshman (2021) on an 8th grade team (2022)? Wow! How disappointing. I wonder what these kids high school coaches will say when they are forgoing JV or Varsity spots to play 8th grade? This has disaster written all over it.


what are you talking about, give us details because this sounds like it is accurate and true
Good luck to the API kids trying out for the Hawks this weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to the API kids trying out for the Hawks this weekend.



Should have a solid B team with all the Dbacks coming over
9d1 had 20 kids at tryouts. Will Crabs have more or less?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are born before Sept. 1, you should be going into 9 th grade. If you repeated for academic reasons and are still in 8 grade you should be playing up in lacrosse. Pretty simple.



What if you were born Sept 2 or even Aug 31 ? No repeating or maybe did repeat kindergarten , on the advice from every teacher and well within the rules of all school guidelines and until the middle of last year on board with all lacrosse guidelines. When Lacrosse decides to change the timeline again this year what will everyone be saying then. A few days or even weeks makes such a difference? Calling out all kids and suggesting they are cheaters is deplorable and flat out an excuse for most.
I completely agree that holding back in middle school or high school is a problem, but when almost all your sports is a U11-U13 with a year playing on the younger side a year playing on the older is fair.
For the most part the issue on this site is an excuse for most for why there son is lost a game.


No difference in age of a heldback kid and a prefirst kid.. Age is what youth sports goes by in all YOUTH Sports except lacrosse. It may not be right for a small minority of kids to old..but they seemed to survive for 50 years until three to four years ago when the whole grade based garbage got started and let kids play down.


No idea what you are talking about. Hold backs are all over football and basketball. Get out of your bubble and look around before you run your mouth.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep, the Hawks will practically be a 2021 team this year from what I hear


Really? Wow! So Matt Hogan is going to lie and play freshman (2021) on an 8th grade team (2022)? Wow! How disappointing. I wonder what these kids high school coaches will say when they are forgoing JV or Varsity spots to play 8th grade? This has disaster written all over it.


You are an idiot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to the API kids trying out for the Hawks this weekend.


Why would they leave API? why would they leave a nationally ranked team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to the API kids trying out for the Hawks this weekend.


Why would they leave API? why would they leave a nationally ranked team?

The same reason kids left 91.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to the API kids trying out for the Hawks this weekend.


Why would they leave API? why would they leave a nationally ranked team?


Most will probably stay. A couple are leaving. Some of the best kids will stay and work with Dukes. Others are looking for greener grass. They are nationally ranked #3, but locally ranked #8. Coaching and development are sometimes questioned which is why kids may leave. Overall negative vibe by some of the parents also may push some kids away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep, the Hawks will practically be a 2021 team this year from what I hear


Really? Wow! So Matt Hogan is going to lie and play freshman (2021) on an 8th grade team (2022)? Wow! How disappointing. I wonder what these kids high school coaches will say when they are forgoing JV or Varsity spots to play 8th grade? This has disaster written all over it.


You are an idiot.


The Hawks (and every other top team in the country) are following the HoCo age requirements and age requirements of 99% of the tournaments. No rule breaking will occur. Some bitter people want to go back to 3rd grade rec rules and consider any violation of those 3rd grade rules "cheating".
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are born before Sept. 1, you should be going into 9 th grade. If you repeated for academic reasons and are still in 8 grade you should be playing up in lacrosse. Pretty simple.



What if you were born Sept 2 or even Aug 31 ? No repeating or maybe did repeat kindergarten , on the advice from every teacher and well within the rules of all school guidelines and until the middle of last year on board with all lacrosse guidelines. When Lacrosse decides to change the timeline again this year what will everyone be saying then. A few days or even weeks makes such a difference? Calling out all kids and suggesting they are cheaters is deplorable and flat out an excuse for most.
I completely agree that holding back in middle school or high school is a problem, but when almost all your sports is a U11-U13 with a year playing on the younger side a year playing on the older is fair.
For the most part the issue on this site is an excuse for most for why there son is lost a game.


No difference in age of a heldback kid and a prefirst kid.. Age is what youth sports goes by in all YOUTH Sports except lacrosse. It may not be right for a small minority of kids to old..but they seemed to survive for 50 years until three to four years ago when the whole grade based garbage got started and let kids play down.


No idea what you are talking about. Hold backs are all over football and basketball. Get out of your bubble and look around before you run your mouth.


Not in YOUTH sports that lead up to High School. Not one governing body of YOUTH sports recommends or promotes grade based teams. Try as you might to justify the older prefirsts/holdbacks/reclassed players. Age base is the norm for YOUTH sports.

I heard that API was canceling their boys teams now. They just canceled all of their girls programs last week. Anyone else hear that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep, the Hawks will practically be a 2021 team this year from what I hear


Really? Wow! So Matt Hogan is going to lie and play freshman (2021) on an 8th grade team (2022)? Wow! How disappointing. I wonder what these kids high school coaches will say when they are forgoing JV or Varsity spots to play 8th grade? This has disaster written all over it.


You are an idiot.


Definitely an idiot.
In regards to MM, do yourself a favor and run far very far away from him!

He is a horrible coach and treats his players like trash! Calling a 13 year old a f@cking [lacrosse], f@cking stupid idiot and that they suck and should quit is totally unacceptable!

Every wonder about why he isn't coaching at higher level??? Because his behavior is so horrible that no college or MLL team will take him! Yes, he assist at Gilman, but he is very careful about his behavior there because they will kick him to the curb if he acts up.
Most players tryout for other teams we will see if they stay or go . Most stay with the same team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are born before Sept. 1, you should be going into 9 th grade. If you repeated for academic reasons and are still in 8 grade you should be playing up in lacrosse. Pretty simple.



What if you were born Sept 2 or even Aug 31 ? No repeating or maybe did repeat kindergarten , on the advice from every teacher and well within the rules of all school guidelines and until the middle of last year on board with all lacrosse guidelines. When Lacrosse decides to change the timeline again this year what will everyone be saying then. A few days or even weeks makes such a difference? Calling out all kids and suggesting they are cheaters is deplorable and flat out an excuse for most.
I completely agree that holding back in middle school or high school is a problem, but when almost all your sports is a U11-U13 with a year playing on the younger side a year playing on the older is fair.
For the most part the issue on this site is an excuse for most for why there son is lost a game.


No difference in age of a heldback kid and a prefirst kid.. Age is what youth sports goes by in all YOUTH Sports except lacrosse. It may not be right for a small minority of kids to old..but they seemed to survive for 50 years until three to four years ago when the whole grade based garbage got started and let kids play down.


No idea what you are talking about. Hold backs are all over football and basketball. Get out of your bubble and look around before you run your mouth.


Not in YOUTH sports that lead up to High School. Not one governing body of YOUTH sports recommends or promotes grade based teams. Try as you might to justify the older prefirsts/holdbacks/reclassed players. Age base is the norm for YOUTH sports.



Not at the select level. Rec yes. Select has hold backs in basketball and football.
I hope many of the Hawks are trying put for other teams. With the multiple 2021 kids who are holding back and the kids they have been recruiting for almost a year.....there will be quite a few who get bumped.

Those parents are so arrogant though that they see no way little Biff gets cut.
2022 is the official year of the reclass/holdbacks. 2021's turn into 2022's this year in MD and other areas where reclass is rampart.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 is the official year of the reclass/holdbacks. 2021's turn into 2022's this year in MD and other areas where reclass is rampart.


Usually. But the typical offender, Crabs, is not having anyone move from 2021 to 2022
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope many of the Hawks are trying put for other teams. With the multiple 2021 kids who are holding back and the kids they have been recruiting for almost a year.....there will be quite a few who get bumped.

Those parents are so arrogant though that they see no way little Biff gets cut.


yawn
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope many of the Hawks are trying put for other teams. With the multiple 2021 kids who are holding back and the kids they have been recruiting for almost a year.....there will be quite a few who get bumped.

Those parents are so arrogant though that they see no way little Biff gets cut.


yawn


No not yawn. When it comes to Hawks, FART is a better description.
How will the Virginia teams be ranked Madlax, VLC, 3D, Club blue and top caliber
A little early to be so positive about the loss of 2 coaches and some standout athletes don't you think? "Nothing to see here folks, it was only 2 coaches and 8 players/almost 50% of Maryland participants on the roster who left a top 2 team during the season, or after their 2022 National Championship game and did NOT bother coming to tryouts." Totally normal?? You are absolutely polishing a turd at this point! I wonder how many of those players who LEFT will "accidentally" wind up with broken arms next season playing against MM? Millon calls it coaching, the rest of the world calls it child abuse. Shame on anyone who continues to support that behavior in youth sports.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A little early to be so positive about the loss of 2 coaches and some standout athletes don't you think? "Nothing to see here folks, it was only 2 coaches and 8 players/almost 50% of Maryland participants on the roster who left a top 2 team during the season, or after their 2022 National Championship game and did NOT bother coming to tryouts." Totally normal?? You are absolutely polishing a turd at this point! I wonder how many of those players who LEFT will "accidentally" wind up with broken arms next season playing against MM? Millon calls it coaching, the rest of the world calls it child abuse. Shame on anyone who continues to support that behavior in youth sports.


MM is the most obnoxious coach in youth club lacrosse. I do not know how his players parents put up with him and the way he acts. Why do you thinki2 coaches and 8 players didn't return? They saw through his bs and his behavior and my feeling is if it continues this fall or next season, he should be banned from the leagues his team plays in. By the second or third game of next years spring season everyone should be able to assess how he acts and if it is the same as this season and past seasons, league directors should have the balls to just step in and ban him from coaching. Club youth lacrosse does not need this behavior and it seems he just doesn't get the message or just doesn't want to hear the message. He is full of himself and feels he can act and do whatever he wants. I'm fearful that at some point someone is going to punch the living sh*t out of him and that no one wants to see or have happen. Not so much for his well being but the youth players and parents/fans do not need to see this.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A little early to be so positive about the loss of 2 coaches and some standout athletes don't you think? "Nothing to see here folks, it was only 2 coaches and 8 players/almost 50% of Maryland participants on the roster who left a top 2 team during the season, or after their 2022 National Championship game and did NOT bother coming to tryouts." Totally normal?? You are absolutely polishing a turd at this point! I wonder how many of those players who LEFT will "accidentally" wind up with broken arms next season playing against MM? Millon calls it coaching, the rest of the world calls it child abuse. Shame on anyone who continues to support that behavior in youth sports.


MM is the most obnoxious coach in youth club lacrosse. I do not know how his players parents put up with him and the way he acts. Why do you thinki2 coaches and 8 players didn't return? They saw through his bs and his behavior and my feeling is if it continues this fall or next season, he should be banned from the leagues his team plays in. By the second or third game of next years spring season everyone should be able to assess how he acts and if it is the same as this season and past seasons, league directors should have the balls to just step in and ban him from coaching. Club youth lacrosse does not need this behavior and it seems he just doesn't get the message or just doesn't want to hear the message. He is full of himself and feels he can act and do whatever he wants. I'm fearful that at some point someone is going to punch the living sh*t out of him and that no one wants to see or have happen. Not so much for his well being but the youth players and parents/fans do not need to see this.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2022 is the official year of the reclass/holdbacks. 2021's turn into 2022's this year in MD and other areas where reclass is rampart.


Except in NY where 2021 turn into 2023's. Keep an eye out folks, it will happen.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How will the Virginia teams be ranked Madlax, VLC, 3D, Club blue and top caliber

2022 VA ranking
1. Madlax (top of the list by a mile)
2. Evergreen (hired D.Maltz from MD to coach and bringing in top players from other VA clubs)
3. Cavalier: 2023 team is near the top in N.VA
4. VLC finished bottom of HOCO and most tournaments too much competition
5. 3d
6. Top Caliber Could move higher real draw is Robinson coaching staff
7. Club Blue ?? unknown will they get two teams at 2022?
8. Mad Lax-VA (the gap between top and bottom is way too high) EKLC, Battlelax, all others still above

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope many of the Hawks are trying put for other teams. With the multiple 2021 kids who are holding back and the kids they have been recruiting for almost a year.....there will be quite a few who get bumped.

Those parents are so arrogant though that they see no way little Biff gets cut.


yawn


No not yawn. When it comes to Hawks, FART is a better description.


We get it .. you hate the Hawks for following the rules like every team in Hoco elite. Can you now go fixate on some other target.

I'm beginning to wonder if there really might be someone wacko enough out there to show up at Hawks tryouts with a sniper rifle.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How will the Virginia teams be ranked Madlax, VLC, 3D, Club blue and top caliber

2022 VA ranking
1. Madlax (top of the list by a mile)
2. Evergreen (hired D.Maltz from MD to coach and bringing in top players from other VA clubs)
3. Cavalier: 2023 team is near the top in N.VA
4. VLC finished bottom of HOCO and most tournaments too much competition
5. 3d
6. Top Caliber Could move higher real draw is Robinson coaching staff
7. Club Blue ?? unknown will they get two teams at 2022?
8. Mad Lax-VA (the gap between top and bottom is way too high) EKLC, Battlelax, all others still above



What about DC Express?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope many of the Hawks are trying put for other teams. With the multiple 2021 kids who are holding back and the kids they have been recruiting for almost a year.....there will be quite a few who get bumped.

Those parents are so arrogant though that they see no way little Biff gets cut.


yawn


No not yawn. When it comes to Hawks, FART is a better description.


We get it .. you hate the Hawks for following the rules like every team in Hoco elite. Can you now go fixate on some other target.

I'm beginning to wonder if there really might be someone wacko enough out there to show up at Hawks tryouts with a sniper rifle.


My God, you are sick to even think of such a thing and even sicker to post it on a public forum. This, I'm afraid, is what gives people ideas. Might be a good idea if the forum Admin delete the posts that mentions this.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How will the Virginia teams be ranked Madlax, VLC, 3D, Club blue and top caliber

2022 VA ranking
1. Madlax (top of the list by a mile)
2. Evergreen (hired D.Maltz from MD to coach and bringing in top players from other VA clubs)
3. Cavalier: 2023 team is near the top in N.VA
4. VLC finished bottom of HOCO and most tournaments too much competition
5. 3d
6. Top Caliber Could move higher real draw is Robinson coaching staff
7. Club Blue ?? unknown will they get two teams at 2022?
8. Mad Lax-VA (the gap between top and bottom is way too high) EKLC, Battlelax, all others still above



What about DC Express?

D.C. express has no 2022 team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope many of the Hawks are trying put for other teams. With the multiple 2021 kids who are holding back and the kids they have been recruiting for almost a year.....there will be quite a few who get bumped.

Those parents are so arrogant though that they see no way little Biff gets cut.


yawn


No not yawn. When it comes to Hawks, FART is a better description.


We get it .. you hate the Hawks for following the rules like every team in Hoco elite. Can you now go fixate on some other target.

I'm beginning to wonder if there really might be someone wacko enough out there to show up at Hawks tryouts with a sniper rifle.


My God, you are sick to even think of such a thing and even sicker to post it on a public forum. This, I'm afraid, is what gives people ideas. Might be a good idea if the forum Admin delete the posts that mentions this.


Yes, this is really irresponsible in this day and age. What the [lacrosse] is the matter with you saying something like that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How will the Virginia teams be ranked Madlax, VLC, 3D, Club blue and top caliber

2022 VA ranking
1. Madlax (top of the list by a mile)
2. Evergreen (hired D.Maltz from MD to coach and bringing in top players from other VA clubs)
3. Cavalier: 2023 team is near the top in N.VA
4. VLC finished bottom of HOCO and most tournaments too much competition
5. 3d
6. Top Caliber Could move higher real draw is Robinson coaching staff
7. Club Blue ?? unknown will they get two teams at 2022?
8. Mad Lax-VA (the gap between top and bottom is way too high) EKLC, Battlelax, all others still above



What about DC Express?

D.C. express has no 2022 team


They will this year. And without knowing anything about their roaster I guarantee you that they will be at worst second on that list. Never even heard of a lot of those teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How will the Virginia teams be ranked Madlax, VLC, 3D, Club blue and top caliber

2022 VA ranking
1. Madlax (top of the list by a mile)
2. Evergreen (hired D.Maltz from MD to coach and bringing in top players from other VA clubs)
3. Cavalier: 2023 team is near the top in N.VA
4. VLC finished bottom of HOCO and most tournaments too much competition
5. 3d
6. Top Caliber Could move higher real draw is Robinson coaching staff
7. Club Blue ?? unknown will they get two teams at 2022?
8. Mad Lax-VA (the gap between top and bottom is way too high) EKLC, Battlelax, all others still above



What about DC Express?

D.C. express has no 2022 team


This list is funny. Evergreen is terrible and Cavalier isn't very good either. The Madlax 2024 team embarrassed the cavalier 2023's last year. There's no competition between the Madlax 2022 team and anyone else in NoVA 2022's.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope many of the Hawks are trying put for other teams. With the multiple 2021 kids who are holding back and the kids they have been recruiting for almost a year.....there will be quite a few who get bumped.

Those parents are so arrogant though that they see no way little Biff gets cut.


yawn


No not yawn. When it comes to Hawks, FART is a better description.


huh
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope many of the Hawks are trying put for other teams. With the multiple 2021 kids who are holding back and the kids they have been recruiting for almost a year.....there will be quite a few who get bumped.

Those parents are so arrogant though that they see no way little Biff gets cut.


yawn


No not yawn. When it comes to Hawks, FART is a better description.


We get it .. you hate the Hawks for following the rules like every team in Hoco elite. Can you now go fixate on some other target.

I'm beginning to wonder if there really might be someone wacko enough out there to show up at Hawks tryouts with a sniper rifle.


Holdback parent strikes again with the stupid and irresponsible comments
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope many of the Hawks are trying put for other teams. With the multiple 2021 kids who are holding back and the kids they have been recruiting for almost a year.....there will be quite a few who get bumped.

Those parents are so arrogant though that they see no way little Biff gets cut.


yawn


No not yawn. When it comes to Hawks, FART is a better description.


We get it .. you hate the Hawks for following the rules like every team in Hoco elite. Can you now go fixate on some other target.

I'm beginning to wonder if there really might be someone wacko enough out there to show up at Hawks tryouts with a sniper rifle.


Holdback parent strikes again with the stupid and irresponsible comments





API daddy still bitter till the end. Classic loser that just can't help himself on this site.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How will the Virginia teams be ranked Madlax, VLC, 3D, Club blue and top caliber

2022 VA ranking
1. Madlax (top of the list by a mile)
2. Evergreen (hired D.Maltz from MD to coach and bringing in top players from other VA clubs)
3. Cavalier: 2023 team is near the top in N.VA
4. VLC finished bottom of HOCO and most tournaments too much competition
5. 3d
6. Top Caliber Could move higher real draw is Robinson coaching staff
7. Club Blue ?? unknown will they get two teams at 2022?
8. Mad Lax-VA (the gap between top and bottom is way too high) EKLC, Battlelax, all others still above



What about DC Express?

D.C. express has no 2022 team


This list is funny. Evergreen is terrible and Cavalier isn't very good either. The Madlax 2024 team embarrassed the cavalier 2023's last year. There's no competition between the Madlax 2022 team and anyone else in NoVA 2022's.


Doesn't madlax practice in MD?
How was the Hawks and API tryouts today?
Over 50 kids at Koopers 2022 Tryouts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was the Hawks and API tryouts today?


Hawks 2022 tryout tomorrow
Doesn't madlax practice in MD?[/quote]

Occasionally at Landon, but most practices are in NoVA.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Over 50 kids at Koopers 2022 Tryouts.


Sounds like a good turn out
API had over 50 kids . They had some great kids come out but will see what happens . A lot of kids are trying out multiple teams .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
API had over 50 kids . They had some great kids come out but will see what happens . A lot of kids are trying out multiple teams .


What helmets were there?

Buggs the new head coach?
Buggs listed as head coach for the 2022 and 2021 teams On API web site but we all known who runs the team.
Hawks tryout is PACKED!!!!


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks tryout is PACKED!!!!




With API players
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks tryout is PACKED!!!!




With API players


No way. I thought they only wanted reclass players?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks tryout is PACKED!!!!




With API players


No way. I thought they only wanted reclass players?


API, Crabs, and Cannons players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks tryout is PACKED!!!!




With API players


No way. I thought they only wanted reclass players?


API, Crabs, and Cannons players.


I heard it was the Club to be in this year!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks tryout is PACKED!!!!




With API players


No way. I thought they only wanted reclass players?


API, Crabs, and Cannons players.


There was one crab there. Stop spreading lies.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks tryout is PACKED!!!!




With API players


No way. I thought they only wanted reclass players?


API, Crabs, and Cannons players.


There was one crab there. Stop spreading lies.


Where you there?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buggs listed as head coach for the 2022 and 2021 teams On API web site but we all known who runs the team.



N0, we don't know who really runs the team? Enlighten us all please. Are you saying the Club is putting false info out there . Bugs Combs is a very good coach and a very much needed face to 2022 team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks tryout is PACKED!!!!




With API players


No way. I thought they only wanted reclass players?


API, Crabs, and Cannons players.


There was one crab there. Stop spreading lies.



Spreading lies ? There was 2 Crab Helmets there and possible more as a lot of helmets where not from a particular team. Good try out from a top club. Well organized with a lot of coaches watching everyone. Why is it an issue if there are kids from other programs there. Every try out across Maryland has the same thing going on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks tryout is PACKED!!!!




With API players


No way. I thought they only wanted reclass players?


API, Crabs, and Cannons players.


There was one crab there. Stop spreading lies.


Where you there?


Yes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope many of the Hawks are trying put for other teams. With the multiple 2021 kids who are holding back and the kids they have been recruiting for almost a year.....there will be quite a few who get bumped.

Those parents are so arrogant though that they see no way little Biff gets cut.


yawn


No not yawn. When it comes to Hawks, FART is a better description.


We get it .. you hate the Hawks for following the rules like every team in Hoco elite. Can you now go fixate on some other target.

I'm beginning to wonder if there really might be someone wacko enough out there to show up at Hawks tryouts with a sniper rifle.


Holdback parent strikes again with the stupid and irresponsible comments





API daddy still bitter till the end. Classic loser that just can't help himself on this site.


Worst guess ever! Try again....
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Hawks 2022 will be full of holdbacks for this fall and next spring. They had quite a few this past spring but we all know how it goes with the Hawk faithful, "we have no holdbacks, that is not how our program is designed/organized". To that the youth club lacrosse community says BS.
Hawks tryouts were the place to be. If you aren't playing Hawks, you are wasting your time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..



Pretty sure only 2 will be offered a spot and they will accept.

You can have the others back.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..



So you came to learn from the best club program?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Lot of holdbacks there. They will deny it but hard to when there are 3 goalies with Hawks helmets LOL Hard to hide that one guys. Let the hold Back parade continue.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Lot of holdbacks there. They will deny it but hard to when there are 3 goalies with Hawks helmets LOL Hard to hide that one guys. Let the hold Back parade continue.


Doesn't sound like he was hiding from you.

Detective holdback
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Lot of holdbacks there. They will deny it but hard to when there are 3 goalies with Hawks helmets LOL Hard to hide that one guys. Let the hold Back parade continue.


Are you saying your son was the API Goalie?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Lot of holdbacks there. They will deny it but hard to when there are 3 goalies with Hawks helmets LOL Hard to hide that one guys. Let the hold Back parade continue.


Are you saying your son was the API Goalie?


While there was a hawks holdback goalie, the hawks holdback defense didn't show and I didn't hear of any others.

A couple Diamondbacks were there, but they may have just been testing the water - they'd likely give up some playing time if they made the move.








Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Lot of holdbacks there. They will deny it but hard to when there are 3 goalies with Hawks helmets LOL Hard to hide that one guys. Let the hold Back parade continue.


Are you saying your son was the API Goalie?


While there was a hawks holdback goalie, the hawks holdback defense didn't show and I didn't hear of any others.

A couple Diamondbacks were there, but they may have just been testing the water - they'd likely give up some playing time if they made the move

Hold back defense? Too funny.









Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Lot of holdbacks there. They will deny it but hard to when there are 3 goalies with Hawks helmets LOL Hard to hide that one guys. Let the hold Back parade continue.


Are you saying your son was the API Goalie?


While there was a hawks holdback goalie, the hawks holdback defense didn't show and I didn't hear of any others.

A couple Diamondbacks were there, but they may have just been testing the water - they'd likely give up some playing time if they made the move.



So a new holdback goalie? That is on top of the holdback goalie that was already on the team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Lot of holdbacks there. They will deny it but hard to when there are 3 goalies with Hawks helmets LOL Hard to hide that one guys. Let the hold Back parade continue.


Are you saying your son was the API Goalie?


While there was a hawks holdback goalie, the hawks holdback defense didn't show and I didn't hear of any others.

A couple Diamondbacks were there, but they may have just been testing the water - they'd likely give up some playing time if they made the move



Impossible that there was a hold back goalie, since the Hawks don't have or promote holdbacks. You must have been imagining this lol
Once all of these shakes out where do the teams meet up for a fall play day?
Learn from the best program . You mean Duke's . Yes my son plays for them too. 10-4
You play the in a JV high school game in the fall
I do feel bad for the Hawks player's that are not holdbacks you have to find a new team because you won't get any playing time or play on the B team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Hawks 2022 will be full of holdbacks for this fall and next spring. They had quite a few this past spring but we all know how it goes with the Hawk faithful, "we have no holdbacks, that is not how our program is designed/organized". To that the youth club lacrosse community says BS.




So, the youth lacrosse community would really like to know and call BS to why API players would be trying out for a team that they would never play for? Or play for again. Just to be clear you are just trying out because its fun with no intent to actually accept a spot if offered? When there are many young boys whom really want to play for the club and parents that are actually good people. (not snakes in grass )Why the API dads continue to come on here and bash well known and respected club across the country. Holdbacks or not, 90% of 8th grade teams will have holdbacks this year . That argument is old and is only brought up when bad mouthing other teams that your kid doesn't play for. But when it comes to the Dukes team which is almost all holdbacks that your kids play for it's perfectly ok. So which is it? Wait , also jumping ship from a team and talking smack about a program that your kids have been on for 4 years just to try out for teams that you really have no intent on playing for but want everyone to know your kid was offered a spot, all the while playing for a National team and recruiting for them. Please don't ever act like you are speaking for the youth lacrosse community when you act and speak the way you do about they young men that play on these teams. Its comical to sit and watch these post cause it sounds like you know an awful lot about the Hawks and the bitterness amusing. Speaks volumes about your character ~
Thanks for making youth lacrosse try outs so amusing with your bitterness , you made it clear how much fun you are having being a deceitful lier.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I do feel bad for the Hawks player's that are not holdbacks you have to find a new team because you won't get any playing time or play on the B team


Save us your pity, seriously. The young men will be just fine no matter where they play. Especially being as far away from creeps like yourself.
Good try loser, just trying to make it easier for when you boy is cut from tryouts...or is he just doing the circuit and playing for the Dukes like you told everyone at tryouts. Trust me, everyone knows you and your son aren't welcome, just a cancer to every team you guys are around! Please don't come back Tuesday!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Hawks 2022 will be full of holdbacks for this fall and next spring. They had quite a few this past spring but we all know how it goes with the Hawk faithful, "we have no holdbacks, that is not how our program is designed/organized". To that the youth club lacrosse community says BS.




So, the youth lacrosse community would really like to know and call BS to why API players would be trying out for a team that they would never play for? Or play for again. Just to be clear you are just trying out because its fun with no intent to actually accept a spot if offered? When there are many young boys whom really want to play for the club and parents that are actually good people. (not snakes in grass )Why the API dads continue to come on here and bash well known and respected club across the country. Holdbacks or not, 90% of 8th grade teams will have holdbacks this year . That argument is old and is only brought up when bad mouthing other teams that your kid doesn't play for. But when it comes to the Dukes team which is almost all holdbacks that your kids play for it's perfectly ok. So which is it? Wait , also jumping ship from a team and talking smack about a program that your kids have been on for 4 years just to try out for teams that you really have no intent on playing for but want everyone to know your kid was offered a spot, all the while playing for a National team and recruiting for them. Please don't ever act like you are speaking for the youth lacrosse community when you act and speak the way you do about they young men that play on these teams. Its comical to sit and watch these post cause it sounds like you know an awful lot about the Hawks and the bitterness amusing. Speaks volumes about your character ~
Thanks for making youth lacrosse try outs so amusing with your bitterness , you made it clear how much fun you are having being a deceitful lier.

Good grief, all those words to deny what is going on with Hawks, just amazing. Just so you know I'm not associated with API or Dukes, neither is my son. You sound like a Hawk dad and as such you and other parents are only exposed to little of what goes on in the youth lacrosse club teams. When you either are a coach or director of another team/program you are exposed to much more information about what is happening with other teams, down so far as to what players are staying or moving to a new team, which players are going to play down etc. You will be surprised the flow of information. Youth club lacrosse is a small community. So again, Hawks 2022 will be loaded with holdbacks this coming fall and spring 2018. Stop the denial, it makes you look foolish and further confirms how much of a liar you are. Ok Hawks dad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Lot of holdbacks there. They will deny it but hard to when there are 3 goalies with Hawks helmets LOL Hard to hide that one guys. Let the hold Back parade continue.


Are you saying your son was the API Goalie?


While there was a hawks holdback goalie, the hawks holdback defense didn't show and I didn't hear of any others.

A couple Diamondbacks were there, but they may have just been testing the water - they'd likely give up some playing time if they made the move



Impossible that there was a hold back goalie, since the Hawks don't have or promote holdbacks. You must have been imagining this lol


The Hawks like EVERY ELITE TEAM take the best kids who meet hoco and 99% of all tournament eligibility rules. You are not getting any sympathy from anyone by accusing a team of FOLLOWING THE RULES.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Lot of holdbacks there. They will deny it but hard to when there are 3 goalies with Hawks helmets LOL Hard to hide that one guys. Let the hold Back parade continue.


Are you saying your son was the API Goalie?


While there was a hawks holdback goalie, the hawks holdback defense didn't show and I didn't hear of any others.

A couple Diamondbacks were there, but they may have just been testing the water - they'd likely give up some playing time if they made the move.



So a new holdback goalie? That is on top of the holdback goalie that was already on the team?


You mean the one that is a rising 7th grader and could play 2023? Once again you prove your ignorance with every post.
Why do API players always tryout for Hawks and never take a spot when offered?
given the recruiting changes are kids still re-doing a year in school at this age group? Wouldn't it make more sense to play on age or even play up and get better and then make a reclass decision later?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why do API players always tryout for Hawks and never take a spot when offered?



Are they really offered a spot? I've watched both teams play for many years as a coach and a parent and I only see 2 players on the API team that could actually compete at the level the Hawks are on. In my opinion non of the others are upgrades.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Hawks 2022 will be full of holdbacks for this fall and next spring. They had quite a few this past spring but we all know how it goes with the Hawk faithful, "we have no holdbacks, that is not how our program is designed/organized". To that the youth club lacrosse community says BS.




So, the youth lacrosse community would really like to know and call BS to why API players would be trying out for a team that they would never play for? Or play for again. Just to be clear you are just trying out because its fun with no intent to actually accept a spot if offered? When there are many young boys whom really want to play for the club and parents that are actually good people. (not snakes in grass )Why the API dads continue to come on here and bash well known and respected club across the country. Holdbacks or not, 90% of 8th grade teams will have holdbacks this year . That argument is old and is only brought up when bad mouthing other teams that your kid doesn't play for. But when it comes to the Dukes team which is almost all holdbacks that your kids play for it's perfectly ok. So which is it? Wait , also jumping ship from a team and talking smack about a program that your kids have been on for 4 years just to try out for teams that you really have no intent on playing for but want everyone to know your kid was offered a spot, all the while playing for a National team and recruiting for them. Please don't ever act like you are speaking for the youth lacrosse community when you act and speak the way you do about they young men that play on these teams. Its comical to sit and watch these post cause it sounds like you know an awful lot about the Hawks and the bitterness amusing. Speaks volumes about your character ~
Thanks for making youth lacrosse try outs so amusing with your bitterness , you made it clear how much fun you are having being a deceitful lier.

Good grief, all those words to deny what is going on with Hawks, just amazing. Just so you know I'm not associated with API or Dukes, neither is my son. You sound like a Hawk dad and as such you and other parents are only exposed to little of what goes on in the youth lacrosse club teams. When you either are a coach or director of another team/program you are exposed to much more information about what is happening with other teams, down so far as to what players are staying or moving to a new team, which players are going to play down etc. You will be surprised the flow of information. Youth club lacrosse is a small community. So again, Hawks 2022 will be loaded with holdbacks this coming fall and spring 2018. Stop the denial, it makes you look foolish and further confirms how much of a liar you are. Ok Hawks dad.


You only know what you hear on the parent sidelines.

Stick to taking pictures.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Hawks 2022 will be full of holdbacks for this fall and next spring. They had quite a few this past spring but we all know how it goes with the Hawk faithful, "we have no holdbacks, that is not how our program is designed/organized". To that the youth club lacrosse community says BS.




So, the youth lacrosse community would really like to know and call BS to why API players would be trying out for a team that they would never play for? Or play for again. Just to be clear you are just trying out because its fun with no intent to actually accept a spot if offered? When there are many young boys whom really want to play for the club and parents that are actually good people. (not snakes in grass )Why the API dads continue to come on here and bash well known and respected club across the country. Holdbacks or not, 90% of 8th grade teams will have holdbacks this year . That argument is old and is only brought up when bad mouthing other teams that your kid doesn't play for. But when it comes to the Dukes team which is almost all holdbacks that your kids play for it's perfectly ok. So which is it? Wait , also jumping ship from a team and talking smack about a program that your kids have been on for 4 years just to try out for teams that you really have no intent on playing for but want everyone to know your kid was offered a spot, all the while playing for a National team and recruiting for them. Please don't ever act like you are speaking for the youth lacrosse community when you act and speak the way you do about they young men that play on these teams. Its comical to sit and watch these post cause it sounds like you know an awful lot about the Hawks and the bitterness amusing. Speaks volumes about your character ~
Thanks for making youth lacrosse try outs so amusing with your bitterness , you made it clear how much fun you are having being a deceitful lier.

Good grief, all those words to deny what is going on with Hawks, just amazing. Just so you know I'm not associated with API or Dukes, neither is my son. You sound like a Hawk dad and as such you and other parents are only exposed to little of what goes on in the youth lacrosse club teams. When you either are a coach or director of another team/program you are exposed to much more information about what is happening with other teams, down so far as to what players are staying or moving to a new team, which players are going to play down etc. You will be surprised the flow of information. Youth club lacrosse is a small community. So again, Hawks 2022 will be loaded with holdbacks this coming fall and spring 2018. Stop the denial, it makes you look foolish and further confirms how much of a liar you are. Ok Hawks dad.



Denial? Where in the post does it deny anything. Your comeback is weak and totally ignores the post. Just more bashing of a club that you are bitter towards. Your holdback jab is for the birds . If you want to play on an Elite 8th grade team this year than 90%of the teams will have at least 1 holdback player on it. That is a small fact in the small lax club community. It furthers proves who you are and how lame you are. Thanks again for the amusement.
How was all the other tryouts this weekend.
Crabs?
RR?
FCA?
89+2?

It sounds like Hawks was a good turn out. A little positive feed back would be good. Going to be another very competitive year fro this age group.
I think this site is over the hatred API dads have for the Hawks. You have made it very clear . The rest of the lax community doesn't care.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Hawks 2022 will be full of holdbacks for this fall and next spring. They had quite a few this past spring but we all know how it goes with the Hawk faithful, "we have no holdbacks, that is not how our program is designed/organized". To that the youth club lacrosse community says BS.




So, the youth lacrosse community would really like to know and call BS to why API players would be trying out for a team that they would never play for? Or play for again. Just to be clear you are just trying out because its fun with no intent to actually accept a spot if offered? When there are many young boys whom really want to play for the club and parents that are actually good people. (not snakes in grass )Why the API dads continue to come on here and bash well known and respected club across the country. Holdbacks or not, 90% of 8th grade teams will have holdbacks this year . That argument is old and is only brought up when bad mouthing other teams that your kid doesn't play for. But when it comes to the Dukes team which is almost all holdbacks that your kids play for it's perfectly ok. So which is it? Wait , also jumping ship from a team and talking smack about a program that your kids have been on for 4 years just to try out for teams that you really have no intent on playing for but want everyone to know your kid was offered a spot, all the while playing for a National team and recruiting for them. Please don't ever act like you are speaking for the youth lacrosse community when you act and speak the way you do about they young men that play on these teams. Its comical to sit and watch these post cause it sounds like you know an awful lot about the Hawks and the bitterness amusing. Speaks volumes about your character ~
Thanks for making youth lacrosse try outs so amusing with your bitterness , you made it clear how much fun you are having being a deceitful lier.

Good grief, all those words to deny what is going on with Hawks, just amazing. Just so you know I'm not associated with API or Dukes, neither is my son. You sound like a Hawk dad and as such you and other parents are only exposed to little of what goes on in the youth lacrosse club teams. When you either are a coach or director of another team/program you are exposed to much more information about what is happening with other teams, down so far as to what players are staying or moving to a new team, which players are going to play down etc. You will be surprised the flow of information. Youth club lacrosse is a small community. So again, Hawks 2022 will be loaded with holdbacks this coming fall and spring 2018. Stop the denial, it makes you look foolish and further confirms how much of a liar you are. Ok Hawks dad.



Denial? Where in the post does it deny anything. Your comeback is weak and totally ignores the post. Just more bashing of a club that you are bitter towards. Your holdback jab is for the birds . If you want to play on an Elite 8th grade team this year than 90%of the teams will have at least 1 holdback player on it. That is a small fact in the small lax club community. It furthers proves who you are and how lame you are. Thanks again for the amusement.


The only amusement to date is this lame post. Keep defending the face that Hawks 2022 will be loaded with holdbacks, not just one, more like 7 to 8. Known fact. You need to just stay on the sidelines and watch the game, you are very far out of the loop. Hawk dads just keep up their denial.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was all the other tryouts this weekend.
Crabs?
RR?
FCA?
89+2?

It sounds like Hawks was a good turn out. A little positive feed back would be good. Going to be another very competitive year fro this age group.
I think this site is over the hatred API dads have for the Hawks. You have made it very clear . The rest of the lax community doesn't care.


Is 2022 89 + 2 the team to beat again this year. Looks like they were the best overall last year. Did MM lose any due to his behavior?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Lot of holdbacks there. They will deny it but hard to when there are 3 goalies with Hawks helmets LOL Hard to hide that one guys. Let the hold Back parade continue.


Are you saying your son was the API Goalie?


While there was a hawks holdback goalie, the hawks holdback defense didn't show and I didn't hear of any others.

A couple Diamondbacks were there, but they may have just been testing the water - they'd likely give up some playing time if they made the move.



So a new holdback goalie? That is on top of the holdback goalie that was already on the team?


You mean the one that is a rising 7th grader and could play 2023? Once again you prove your ignorance with every post.


Funny how you mentioned only 1. If you have a 2023 goalie then it is the other goalie who is the hold back.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was all the other tryouts this weekend.
Crabs?
RR?
FCA?
89+2?

It sounds like Hawks was a good turn out. A little positive feed back would be good. Going to be another very competitive year fro this age group.
I think this site is over the hatred API dads have for the Hawks. You have made it very clear . The rest of the lax community doesn't care.


Is 2022 89 + 2 the team to beat again this year. Looks like they were the best overall last year. Did MM lose any due to his behavior?


LOL. Yes, 6 kids and 2 coaches left. Less than 20 kids came to tryouts. Wouldn't expect too much from 9D1 this year. Filled in with cast offs from other clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was all the other tryouts this weekend.
Crabs?
RR?
FCA?
89+2?

It sounds like Hawks was a good turn out. A little positive feed back would be good. Going to be another very competitive year fro this age group.
I think this site is over the hatred API dads have for the Hawks. You have made it very clear . The rest of the lax community doesn't care.


Crabs - 30 kids
RR - 35 kids
FCA - 70 kids
9D1 - 20 kids
RR is getting some of the 9D1 kids that fill in the weak spots. RR will be strong .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Hawks 2022 will be full of holdbacks for this fall and next spring. They had quite a few this past spring but we all know how it goes with the Hawk faithful, "we have no holdbacks, that is not how our program is designed/organized". To that the youth club lacrosse community says BS.




So, the youth lacrosse community would really like to know and call BS to why API players would be trying out for a team that they would never play for? Or play for again. Just to be clear you are just trying out because its fun with no intent to actually accept a spot if offered? When there are many young boys whom really want to play for the club and parents that are actually good people. (not snakes in grass )Why the API dads continue to come on here and bash well known and respected club across the country. Holdbacks or not, 90% of 8th grade teams will have holdbacks this year . That argument is old and is only brought up when bad mouthing other teams that your kid doesn't play for. But when it comes to the Dukes team which is almost all holdbacks that your kids play for it's perfectly ok. So which is it? Wait , also jumping ship from a team and talking smack about a program that your kids have been on for 4 years just to try out for teams that you really have no intent on playing for but want everyone to know your kid was offered a spot, all the while playing for a National team and recruiting for them. Please don't ever act like you are speaking for the youth lacrosse community when you act and speak the way you do about they young men that play on these teams. Its comical to sit and watch these post cause it sounds like you know an awful lot about the Hawks and the bitterness amusing. Speaks volumes about your character ~
Thanks for making youth lacrosse try outs so amusing with your bitterness , you made it clear how much fun you are having being a deceitful lier.

Good grief, all those words to deny what is going on with Hawks, just amazing. Just so you know I'm not associated with API or Dukes, neither is my son. You sound like a Hawk dad and as such you and other parents are only exposed to little of what goes on in the youth lacrosse club teams. When you either are a coach or director of another team/program you are exposed to much more information about what is happening with other teams, down so far as to what players are staying or moving to a new team, which players are going to play down etc. You will be surprised the flow of information. Youth club lacrosse is a small community. So again, Hawks 2022 will be loaded with holdbacks this coming fall and spring 2018. Stop the denial, it makes you look foolish and further confirms how much of a liar you are. Ok Hawks dad.


just not true
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
None of the API players will go over to the HAWKS but it's fun have your son wanted by the Hawks .My son giving up a spot for your holdback ..


Hawks 2022 will be full of holdbacks for this fall and next spring. They had quite a few this past spring but we all know how it goes with the Hawk faithful, "we have no holdbacks, that is not how our program is designed/organized". To that the youth club lacrosse community says BS.




So, the youth lacrosse community would really like to know and call BS to why API players would be trying out for a team that they would never play for? Or play for again. Just to be clear you are just trying out because its fun with no intent to actually accept a spot if offered? When there are many young boys whom really want to play for the club and parents that are actually good people. (not snakes in grass )Why the API dads continue to come on here and bash well known and respected club across the country. Holdbacks or not, 90% of 8th grade teams will have holdbacks this year . That argument is old and is only brought up when bad mouthing other teams that your kid doesn't play for. But when it comes to the Dukes team which is almost all holdbacks that your kids play for it's perfectly ok. So which is it? Wait , also jumping ship from a team and talking smack about a program that your kids have been on for 4 years just to try out for teams that you really have no intent on playing for but want everyone to know your kid was offered a spot, all the while playing for a National team and recruiting for them. Please don't ever act like you are speaking for the youth lacrosse community when you act and speak the way you do about they young men that play on these teams. Its comical to sit and watch these post cause it sounds like you know an awful lot about the Hawks and the bitterness amusing. Speaks volumes about your character ~
Thanks for making youth lacrosse try outs so amusing with your bitterness , you made it clear how much fun you are having being a deceitful lier.

Good grief, all those words to deny what is going on with Hawks, just amazing. Just so you know I'm not associated with API or Dukes, neither is my son. You sound like a Hawk dad and as such you and other parents are only exposed to little of what goes on in the youth lacrosse club teams. When you either are a coach or director of another team/program you are exposed to much more information about what is happening with other teams, down so far as to what players are staying or moving to a new team, which players are going to play down etc. You will be surprised the flow of information. Youth club lacrosse is a small community. So again, Hawks 2022 will be loaded with holdbacks this coming fall and spring 2018. Stop the denial, it makes you look foolish and further confirms how much of a liar you are. Ok Hawks dad.



Denial? Where in the post does it deny anything. Your comeback is weak and totally ignores the post. Just more bashing of a club that you are bitter towards. Your holdback jab is for the birds . If you want to play on an Elite 8th grade team this year than 90%of the teams will have at least 1 holdback player on it. That is a small fact in the small lax club community. It furthers proves who you are and how lame you are. Thanks again for the amusement.


The only amusement to date is this lame post. Keep defending the face that Hawks 2022 will be loaded with holdbacks, not just one, more like 7 to 8. Known fact. You need to just stay on the sidelines and watch the game, you are very far out of the loop. Hawk dads just keep up their denial.


LMAO - so an Arden parent thinks they are in the Hawks loop?

Someone thinks they are important.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]

Denial? Where in the post does it deny anything. Your comeback is weak and totally ignores the post. Just more bashing of a club that you are bitter towards. Your holdback jab is for the birds . If you want to play on an Elite 8th grade team this year than 90%of the teams will have at least 1 holdback player on it. That is a small fact in the small lax club community. It furthers proves who you are and how lame you are. Thanks again for the amusement.


The only amusement to date is this lame post. Keep defending the face that Hawks 2022 will be loaded with holdbacks, not just one, more like 7 to 8. Known fact. You need to just stay on the sidelines and watch the game, you are very far out of the loop. Hawk dads just keep up their denial.


LMAO - so an Arden parent thinks they are in the Hawks loop?

Someone thinks they are important.


Don't need to be in the Hawks loop. The kids all know each other. When a kid that used to be in a grade ahead of them suddenly is in their grade, then they kind of figure out he's a holdback. And when they are in the same grade and a kid has a birthday in April and is older than they are, they kind of figure out they are a holdback at some point.

Stop being stupid about this. Everyone knows who the older kids are.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was all the other tryouts this weekend.
Crabs?
RR?
FCA?
89+2?

It sounds like Hawks was a good turn out. A little positive feed back would be good. Going to be another very competitive year fro this age group.
I think this site is over the hatred API dads have for the Hawks. You have made it very clear . The rest of the lax community doesn't care.


Is 2022 89 + 2 the team to beat again this year. Looks like they were the best overall last year. Did MM lose any due to his behavior?


LOL. Yes, 6 kids and 2 coaches left. Less than 20 kids came to tryouts. Wouldn't expect too much from 9D1 this year. Filled in with cast offs from other clubs.


Don't forget about the 91MD - 91TX connection. Possibly 91NC kids now also?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RR is getting some of the 9D1 kids that fill in the weak spots. RR will be strong .


And a fogo coach.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was all the other tryouts this weekend.
Crabs?
RR?
FCA?
89+2?

It sounds like Hawks was a good turn out. A little positive feed back would be good. Going to be another very competitive year fro this age group.
I think this site is over the hatred API dads have for the Hawks. You have made it very clear . The rest of the lax community doesn't care.


Is 2022 89 + 2 the team to beat again this year. Looks like they were the best overall last year. Did MM lose any due to his behavior?


LOL. Yes, 6 kids and 2 coaches left. Less than 20 kids came to tryouts. Wouldn't expect too much from 9D1 this year. Filled in with cast offs from other clubs.


Well as long as his kid is on team...all is well in MM land!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]

Denial? Where in the post does it deny anything. Your comeback is weak and totally ignores the post. Just more bashing of a club that you are bitter towards. Your holdback jab is for the birds . If you want to play on an Elite 8th grade team this year than 90%of the teams will have at least 1 holdback player on it. That is a small fact in the small lax club community. It furthers proves who you are and how lame you are. Thanks again for the amusement.


The only amusement to date is this lame post. Keep defending the face that Hawks 2022 will be loaded with holdbacks, not just one, more like 7 to 8. Known fact. You need to just stay on the sidelines and watch the game, you are very far out of the loop. Hawk dads just keep up their denial.


LMAO - so an Arden parent thinks they are in the Hawks loop?

Someone thinks they are important.


Don't need to be in the Hawks loop. The kids all know each other. When a kid that used to be in a grade ahead of them suddenly is in their grade, then they kind of figure out he's a holdback. And when they are in the same grade and a kid has a birthday in April and is older than they are, they kind of figure out they are a holdback at some point.

Stop being stupid about this. Everyone knows who the older kids are.



Detective Holdback closes another case.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Learn from the best program . You mean Duke's . Yes my son plays for them too. 10-4


The Dukes are nothing more than laundry.

The team that you practice with weekly, year after year, is the team that deserves credit for development and being a great program.

All star teams that meet 5 or 6 times a year are not programs.

So what's really wrong with holdbacks it's not breaking the rules. What's problem..if a team has a lot of holdbacks and you have problem with that then don't tryout to be part of that team go another team .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's really wrong with holdbacks it's not breaking the rules. What's problem..if a team has a lot of holdbacks and you have problem with that then don't tryout to be part of that team go another team .



Hi. You must be new here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was all the other tryouts this weekend.
Crabs?
RR?
FCA?
89+2?

It sounds like Hawks was a good turn out. A little positive feed back would be good. Going to be another very competitive year fro this age group.
I think this site is over the hatred API dads have for the Hawks. You have made it very clear . The rest of the lax community doesn't care.


Is 2022 89 + 2 the team to beat again this year. Looks like they were the best overall last year. Did MM lose any due to his behavior?


Lost 8 players and 2 coaches because of his behavior.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what's really wrong with holdbacks it's not breaking the rules. What's problem..if a team has a lot of holdbacks and you have problem with that then don't tryout to be part of that team go another team .


You must be new to lacrosse and new to the English language.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]

Denial? Where in the post does it deny anything. Your comeback is weak and totally ignores the post. Just more bashing of a club that you are bitter towards. Your holdback jab is for the birds . If you want to play on an Elite 8th grade team this year than 90%of the teams will have at least 1 holdback player on it. That is a small fact in the small lax club community. It furthers proves who you are and how lame you are. Thanks again for the amusement.


The only amusement to date is this lame post. Keep defending the face that Hawks 2022 will be loaded with holdbacks, not just one, more like 7 to 8. Known fact. You need to just stay on the sidelines and watch the game, you are very far out of the loop. Hawk dads just keep up their denial.


LMAO - so an Arden parent thinks they are in the Hawks loop?

Someone thinks they are important.


Don't need to be in the Hawks loop. The kids all know each other. When a kid that used to be in a grade ahead of them suddenly is in their grade, then they kind of figure out he's a holdback. And when they are in the same grade and a kid has a birthday in April and is older than they are, they kind of figure out they are a holdback at some point.

Stop being stupid about this. Everyone knows who the older kids are.



Detective Holdback closes another case.


And detective as*hole makes another stupid post.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was all the other tryouts this weekend.
Crabs?
RR?
FCA?
89+2?

It sounds like Hawks was a good turn out. A little positive feed back would be good. Going to be another very competitive year fro this age group.
I think this site is over the hatred API dads have for the Hawks. You have made it very clear . The rest of the lax community doesn't care.


Is 2022 89 + 2 the team to beat again this year. Looks like they were the best overall last year. Did MM lose any due to his behavior?


LOL. Yes, 6 kids and 2 coaches left. Less than 20 kids came to tryouts. Wouldn't expect too much from 9D1 this year. Filled in with cast offs from other clubs.


Don't forget about the 91MD - 91TX connection. Possibly 91NC kids now also?



MM will have to fly in half his team! What a joke!!
No not new just asking . Is it because my holdback son takes position away from your son . Because lacrosse is grade base it's not cheating or breaking any rules . So what is the problem your kids cant' compete that's not problem
[quote=Anonymous]No not new just asking . Is it because my holdback son takes position away from your son . Because lacrosse is grade base it's not cheating or breaking any rules . So what is the problem your kids cant' compete that's not problem [/


Your troll game needs some serious work.
Make sure not to tryout for Breakers. What a scam show. Browning is a liar.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Make sure not to tryout for Breakers. What a scam show. Browning is a liar.


Are Breakers still owned by the Owner of Aloha Tournaments??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Make sure not to tryout for Breakers. What a scam show. Browning is a liar.


Are Breakers still owned by the Owner of Aloha Tournaments??


Yes, pay to play in only their tourneys. Smart but corrupt.
Yet they can only get 3 boys to come out for 2025...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]

Denial? Where in the post does it deny anything. Your comeback is weak and totally ignores the post. Just more bashing of a club that you are bitter towards. Your holdback jab is for the birds . If you want to play on an Elite 8th grade team this year than 90%of the teams will have at least 1 holdback player on it. That is a small fact in the small lax club community. It furthers proves who you are and how lame you are. Thanks again for the amusement.


The only amusement to date is this lame post. Keep defending the face that Hawks 2022 will be loaded with holdbacks, not just one, more like 7 to 8. Known fact. You need to just stay on the sidelines and watch the game, you are very far out of the loop. Hawk dads just keep up their denial.


LMAO - so an Arden parent thinks they are in the Hawks loop?

Someone thinks they are important.


Don't need to be in the Hawks loop. The kids all know each other. When a kid that used to be in a grade ahead of them suddenly is in their grade, then they kind of figure out he's a holdback. And when they are in the same grade and a kid has a birthday in April and is older than they are, they kind of figure out they are a holdback at some point.

Stop being stupid about this. Everyone knows who the older kids are.



Detective Holdback closes another case.


And detective as*hole makes another stupid post.


SOMEONE IS BITTER
Will you be BITTER after your son gets cut soon or you are strung along for a week or 2 waiting to see if someone turns down a spot. All other tryouts are over so say hi to the 2 grand B team. lol. dummies
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will you be BITTER after your son gets cut soon or you are strung along for a week or 2 waiting to see if someone turns down a spot. All other tryouts are over so say hi to the 2 grand B team. lol. dummies


There you go thinking you are IN the loop.

Mr Important.

You really need to stick to taking pictures.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will you be BITTER after your son gets cut soon or you are strung along for a week or 2 waiting to see if someone turns down a spot. All other tryouts are over so say hi to the 2 grand B team. lol. dummies



Do you think API will be able to compete with the B team? If what you are saying happens it sounds like the B team will be better than API. Considering those players put it on them twice this past year.
Api will beat the age base Bteam and will compete against your JV high school team
It's all a money grab
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will you be BITTER after your son gets cut soon or you are strung along for a week or 2 waiting to see if someone turns down a spot. All other tryouts are over so say hi to the 2 grand B team. lol. dummies


There you go thinking you are IN the loop.

Mr Important.

You really need to stick to taking pictures.


I will give him credit he does take nice pictures.
What is the deal with Breakers?
cmon fogo dads... kiss and make up!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is the deal with Breakers?



Where's the tryout? The players doing the "circuit" want to come.
The parents that make their sons go to all of these tryouts knowing they won't take the spot anyways are idiots.

Let's your son finish out his summer before you burn him out. He is already on a team. Waste of money
Is it true that club blue will have two teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that club blue will have two teams


They are trying to do the madlax model of an md team and a va team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The parents that make their sons go to all of these tryouts knowing they won't take the spot anyways are idiots.

Let's your son finish out his summer before you burn him out. He is already on a team. Waste of money


Unless you are the coaches son, you should have a backup club. (And there have been instances where assistant coaches kids have been cut)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is the deal with Breakers?



Where's the tryout? The players doing the "circuit" want to come.


What happened to the breakers? I know T91MD took a lot of kids and coaches but they were a solid organization that I thought would get past it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No not new just asking . Is it because my holdback son takes position away from your son . Because lacrosse is grade base it's not cheating or breaking any rules . So what is the problem your kids cant' compete that's not problem


Some people are just nostalgic to how things were in 3rd grade. Those were the days...
Poor management. Stay away.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api will beat the age base Bteam and will compete against your JV high school team


that is a foolish statement

The hate needs to stop
Agreed. The hate needs to stop. What is sad is that the same club directors, coaches, and parents that spoke out against early recruiting by colleges, are now are completely complicit with their clubs aggressively recruiting 6-9th graders, the bashing of other clubs and coaches, all with promise of future stardom and recognition on their clubs for the purpose of being noticed at the HS level. Flat out sad... flat out sad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
cmon fogo dads... kiss and make up!


what is this in reference to?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
cmon fogo dads... kiss and make up!


So that is who is responsible for this nonsense??? Let's just break out the ruler and see who is the better man. If it's a tie(@2.2inches probably ) just pick a goalie from Hawks and Diamondbacks and you 2 clowns can have a braveheart to see who is the bigger man.
Ha ha... fogo dad's... braveheart... I see what you did there
Oh you know! Everyone knows! You just don't know everyone knows!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. The hate needs to stop. What is sad is that the same club directors, coaches, and parents that spoke out against early recruiting by colleges, are now are completely complicit with their clubs aggressively recruiting 6-9th graders, the bashing of other clubs and coaches, all with promise of future stardom and recognition on their clubs for the purpose of being noticed at the HS level. Flat out sad... flat out sad.



The sad part for many club directors is money and ego/bragging rights. More focus needs to be placed on the development of their players, regardless of the age level, develop your players. If you don't have the coaches that can do it, find ones who will or just keep quite and hope for the best.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh you know! Everyone knows! You just don't know everyone knows!


And if you don't know, just ask detective holdback.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. The hate needs to stop. What is sad is that the same club directors, coaches, and parents that spoke out against early recruiting by colleges, are now are completely complicit with their clubs aggressively recruiting 6-9th graders, the bashing of other clubs and coaches, all with promise of future stardom and recognition on their clubs for the purpose of being noticed at the HS level. Flat out sad... flat out sad.



The sad part for many club directors is money and ego/bragging rights. More focus needs to be placed on the development of their players, regardless of the age level, develop your players. If you don't have the coaches that can do it, find ones who will or just keep quite and hope for the best.

Enlighten us. Who are the coaches who continue to develop their players vs. just collecting talented players?
MM team locked and loaded
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MM team locked and loaded


All 15 of them
Those 15 are just the MD kids, don't forget about the TX kids that he will bring in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. The hate needs to stop. What is sad is that the same club directors, coaches, and parents that spoke out against early recruiting by colleges, are now are completely complicit with their clubs aggressively recruiting 6-9th graders, the bashing of other clubs and coaches, all with promise of future stardom and recognition on their clubs for the purpose of being noticed at the HS level. Flat out sad... flat out sad.



The sad part for many club directors is money and ego/bragging rights. More focus needs to be placed on the development of their players, regardless of the age level, develop your players. If you don't have the coaches that can do it, find ones who will or just keep quite and hope for the best.

Enlighten us. Who are the coaches who continue to develop their players vs. just collecting talented players?


. Ask around, see what clubs work with their players and which ones just recruit a player(s) for the short term. You need to enlighten yourself. You seem to have an attitude.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. The hate needs to stop. What is sad is that the same club directors, coaches, and parents that spoke out against early recruiting by colleges, are now are completely complicit with their clubs aggressively recruiting 6-9th graders, the bashing of other clubs and coaches, all with promise of future stardom and recognition on their clubs for the purpose of being noticed at the HS level. Flat out sad... flat out sad.



The sad part for many club directors is money and ego/bragging rights. More focus needs to be placed on the development of their players, regardless of the age level, develop your players. If you don't have the coaches that can do it, find ones who will or just keep quite and hope for the best.

Enlighten us. Who are the coaches who continue to develop their players vs. just collecting talented players?


. Ask around, see what clubs work with their players and which ones just recruit a player(s) for the short term. You need to enlighten yourself. You seem to have an attitude.



It appeared that only the Crabs and API from last year did a poor job developing their players.(not to say they are not very good teams) Being around the club scene for a while now I would say all the clubs do a good job developing players. It is very clear to see which teams get better year to year and even from start to finish in a season. EVERY single club does some sort of recruiting every year to better their overall team. This is perfectly normal behavior for any level of any sport. If a player doesn't feel he is being developed than most likely they will leave which is also perfectly ok. This also happens at the REC level across the country. I don't get how people come on here bashing clubs , coaches, leagues that you signed up for. Signed up knowing exactly what the rules and guidelines are. If you want your kid to play at the ELITE or AA level then this is the landscape for now.(until USL changes their age dates again or USL and club come to some unified agreement for all to play by) Until then there is at least a dozen of grade or age base teams to play on this year. HOCO has Elite,AA,A,B,C and also has age group teams for those so sensitive to the cause. The majority of Clubs including the 2 mentioned before have some of the best coaching and staff in all of lacrosse.(at least on paper) All clubs have ALL American , Pro, High School, College coaches working with their players. Thus the business side of this , if you want to coach your kid still and feel he is being treated unfairly and as a Parent you didn't really know what you signed up for then there is a ton of Rec organizations that do a great job with young players. If you only want to spew negativity along with all the other parents on here that feel slighted or cheated because they signed up for something they shouldn't have,this site should set up a cry baby page and leave this one to those that do care or don't care about holdbacks, ego,bragging rights,club bashing, coach bashing, smart [lacrosse] parents that comment anonymously like tough guys.
What is sad is parents complaining about something they know full well and still signed up for. Do you expect sympathy or to actually take your comments seriously when you clearly are not smart enough to know what you signed up for.
Clubs can't spend the time developing players you kool aid drinker... they have to win and work on team plays and such. Wins gets kids to tryouts. The good kids have natural talent and size at this age. They also work on their own. Clubs don't develop anything more than marketing materials and uniforms. Parents develop kids and coaches help in small pieces. Clubs, collect money and pay bills. 90% of club coaches success comes from recruiting the best kids, not developing them. In HS and college they develop.
This forum is a waste of my time and energy. See ya'll. Good luck to your sons, hoping they are unaffected by this kind of nonsense.
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Clubs can't spend the time developing players you kool aid drinker... they have to win and work on team plays and such. Wins gets kids to tryouts. The good kids have natural talent and size at this age. They also work on their own. Clubs don't develop anything more than marketing materials and uniforms. Parents develop kids and coaches help in small pieces. Clubs, collect money and pay bills. 90% of club coaches success comes from recruiting the best kids, not developing them. In HS and college they develop.


and that is why Crabs is imploding right now....
Will it be a A and B or completely separate
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This forum is a waste of my time and energy. See ya'll. Good luck to your sons, hoping they are unaffected by this kind of nonsense.



You will be back. You won't be able to help yourself. I even bet it will be by dinner time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This forum is a waste of my time and energy. See ya'll. Good luck to your sons, hoping they are unaffected by this kind of nonsense.



You will be back. You won't be able to help yourself. I even bet it will be by dinner time.


This forum is not for the weak. lol

So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MM team locked and loaded


And ready for another run at being best team again in country lead by the attack!
Wish I had a 2022 son .. this board stays poppin ... maybe I can stir something up in 2021 boys or 2025 girls
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Crabs will stay in the Elite division but half their team is leaving.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Hawks have one more tryout this Sun.

Rumors of 2022 Koopers jumping up to Elite bracket as the 2022 eligible players from 2021 will likely play with 2022s during spring and 2021s during summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This forum is a waste of my time and energy. See ya'll. Good luck to your sons, hoping they are unaffected by this kind of nonsense.


Please don't leave us...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Hawks have one more tryout this Sun.

Rumors of 2022 Koopers jumping up to Elite bracket as the 2022 eligible players from 2021 will likely play with 2022s during spring and 2021s during summer.


Wrong. Koopers will have two 2022 teams. Their original 2022 team, and then a new 2022 team made up of the 2021 players as well as kids from Philly and other places.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Hawks have one more tryout this Sun.

Rumors of 2022 Koopers jumping up to Elite bracket as the 2022 eligible players from 2021 will likely play with 2022s during spring and 2021s during summer.


Wrong. Koopers will have two 2022 teams. Their original 2022 team, and then a new 2022 team made up of the 2021 players as well as kids from Philly and other places.


Wrong!! One team and hoping to go AA! 2021s are staying on 2021 but being fostered on 2022, if needed. My son is on the team. Get your facts straight!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Those 15 are just the MD kids, don't forget about the TX kids that he will bring in.


Exactly...no one cares Mark if your team is lock and loaded! Your post on Instagram was ridiculous and aimed at the players that left! They are the true leaders for leaving your team and not standing up to your bullying and abusive behavior anymore! Hope more follow their lead.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MM team locked and loaded


And ready for another run at being best team again in country lead by the attack!



Really Mac, promoting yourself! You are not the best attack in the country! Your are selfish and a ball hog. Daddy sets every play up so you get the ball and can attempt to score with your horrible sidearm shot. The team would have done much better if you learned to pass the ball and be a team player not a self promoter!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Hawks have one more tryout this Sun.

Rumors of 2022 Koopers jumping up to Elite bracket as the 2022 eligible players from 2021 will likely play with 2022s during spring and 2021s during summer.


Wrong. Koopers will have two 2022 teams. Their original 2022 team, and then a new 2022 team made up of the 2021 players as well as kids from Philly and other places.


Wrong!! One team and hoping to go AA! 2021s are staying on 2021 but being fostered on 2022, if needed. My son is on the team. Get your facts straight!


Fostered? so the 2022 eligible 2021s are playing for Koopers 2022 in the HoCo spring league?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Hawks have one more tryout this Sun.

Rumors of 2022 Koopers jumping up to Elite bracket as the 2022 eligible players from 2021 will likely play with 2022s during spring and 2021s during summer.


Wrong. Koopers will have two 2022 teams. Their original 2022 team, and then a new 2022 team made up of the 2021 players as well as kids from Philly and other places.


Wrong!! One team and hoping to go AA! 2021s are staying on 2021 but being fostered on 2022, if needed. My son is on the team. Get your facts straight!


LOL. OK. Guess you didn't notice the crew of kids from Philly and other programs at Saturdays tryout. It's a separate team. Guess you weren't invited to the invitation only team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Hawks have one more tryout this Sun.

Rumors of 2022 Koopers jumping up to Elite bracket as the 2022 eligible players from 2021 will likely play with 2022s during spring and 2021s during summer.


Wrong. Koopers will have two 2022 teams. Their original 2022 team, and then a new 2022 team made up of the 2021 players as well as kids from Philly and other places.


Wrong!! One team and hoping to go AA! 2021s are staying on 2021 but being fostered on 2022, if needed. My son is on the team. Get your facts straight!


Fostered? so the 2022 eligible 2021s are playing for Koopers 2022 in the HoCo spring league?


No. There will be a second team that apparently they haven't told the existing 2022 parents about. It will be a combination of the 2022 kids that play on Koopers 21 and other kids from the Dukes National Team. They will be playing in HOCO as Dukes Nationals apparently. Those same kids will play as a second Koopers 2022 team in the summer.
Koopers plays their kids up not down. I would be surprised if the 2022s drop down unless they want to make a statement to the holdback clubs that they are not nearly as good as they think they are. Or maybe the 2022s want to play in the spring. In any case, kudos to them- thats the best group of 2022s I've seen.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MM team locked and loaded


And ready for another run at being best team again in country lead by the attack!



Really Mac, promoting yourself! You are not the best attack in the country! Your are selfish and a ball hog. Dad
dy sets every play up so you get the ball and can attempt to score with your horrible sidearm shot. The team would have done much better if you learned to pass the ball and be a team player not a self promoter!


Really Dad? The adults running programs may deserve critism but calling out a kid is absolutely pathetic. You should be ashamed
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers plays their kids up not down. I would be surprised if the 2022s drop down unless they want to make a statement to the holdback clubs that they are not nearly as good as they think they are. Or maybe the 2022s want to play in the spring. In any case, kudos to them- thats the best group of 2022s I've seen.


Has anyone seen Koopers play all eligible 2022s as 2022s?

Their 2021 is ok, their 2022 is not very good, so how can you say they are the best group of 2022s?

It will be great to see them play their best 2022 kids this spring to see how good they really are. They will be vastly improved with a goalie, two attack, 1 defender playing on age as well as another defender reclassing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MM team locked and loaded


And ready for another run at being best team again in country lead by the attack!



Really Mac, promoting yourself! You are not the best attack in the country! Your are selfish and a ball hog. Dad
dy sets every play up so you get the ball and can attempt to score with your horrible sidearm shot. The team would have done much better if you learned to pass the ball and be a team player not a self promoter!


Really Dad? The adults running programs may deserve critism but calling out a kid is absolutely pathetic. You should be ashamed


The truth hurts!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MM team locked and loaded


And ready for another run at being best team again in country lead by the attack!



Really Mac, promoting yourself! You are not the best attack in the country! Your are selfish and a ball hog. Daddy sets every play up so you get the ball and can attempt to score with your horrible sidearm shot. The team would have done much better if you learned to pass the ball and be a team player not a self promoter!


Cream rises to the top
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MM team locked and loaded


And ready for another run at being best team again in country lead by the attack!



Really Mac, promoting yourself! You are not the best attack in the country! Your are selfish and a ball hog. Daddy sets every play up so you get the ball and can attempt to score with your horrible sidearm shot. The team would have done much better if you learned to pass the ball and be a team player not a self promoter!


Cream rises to the top


So does [lacrosse] in a toilet bowl................
Can we please avoid confrontations with children?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers plays their kids up not down. I would be surprised if the 2022s drop down unless they want to make a statement to the holdback clubs that they are not nearly as good as they think they are. Or maybe the 2022s want to play in the spring. In any case, kudos to them- thats the best group of 2022s I've seen.


Has anyone seen Koopers play all eligible 2022s as 2022s?

Their 2021 is ok, their 2022 is not very good, so how can you say they are the best group of 2022s?

It will be great to see them play their best 2022 kids this spring to see how good they really are. They will be vastly improved with a goalie, two attack, 1 defender playing on age as well as another defender reclassing.



Best you've ever seen. You can't be serious. 2022 Koopers team ? Or Dukes team ? Neither are the best team at the age group. Lets all remember Dukes National team is made up of some of the best players from many teams. An ALL STAR team. If any of the other top teams at this age group decide to let their players try out for Dukes or put their own ALL STAR team together it wouldnt even be close. Most of the players won't have a spot on that team.
Good luck to both teams because they will need it to play against the top teams .
Dukes Nationals have killed the best teams, and I think they will continue to do so. Those kids play together once a month, and from what I understand, It's next to impossible to have all of their top players together for a single game or tourney. Those kids have skill, heart, work ethic and lax IQ. More importantly, they look like they have a ton of fun and exude good sportsmanship to our players when they played them. I've seen them play, as well as other top teams this summer and last summer. I assume they will keep getting better too. You gotta give them credit even though it's hard to admit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals have killed the best teams, and I think they will continue to do so. Those kids play together once a month, and from what I understand, It's next to impossible to have all of their top players together for a single game or tourney. Those kids have skill, heart, work ethic and lax IQ. More importantly, they look like they have a ton of fun and exude good sportsmanship to our players when they played them. I've seen them play, as well as other top teams this summer and last summer. I assume they will keep getting better too. You gotta give them credit even though it's hard to admit.


DN have not killed the best teams. They had one good tournament this summer beat Hawks at nap town. Lost to Express in Boston with the same team that played in Annapolis. Also played up in tournament NY playing up 2021 went 1-3 Lot of new kids and parents trying hype DN like is the greatest team ever. Minicamps are good tournament teams ok and yes my son has played on DN for the last 2 years. It's extra lacrosse for kids that want more than just their Maryland club.
King Crab is coaching the 2022s. Good luck to those boys.
I don't understand why it matters so much being on the "best team". The top 10 Teams(18-22 players) in the country are 1-3 players away from shifting 5 spots on the competitive totem pole. Played in many games in my career and got smoked, or crushed another team for no great reason. Good days/Bad days. Won games that should have been lost and lost games that should have been won. The whole bragging rights argument at 2022 is kind of insane. If you are not winning, you should be learning. What is the coaching like? Does your son love his teammates? Is your kid having fun and being inspired to be a great player in the future? If you have great coaching and your son is a better player at the end of the season than they were at the beginning, and cant wait to get back on the field and play again, the whole status thing is kind of just for the parents. I'm seeing so many kids these days willing to jump on a team and ride the pine, just so the player and parents can say they play for Team "XXX" and wear a T-shirt around? I would rather see my kid play a lot, preferably through some adversity and challenge the team and players to become better. That is player/team development, not just a contest of who can recruit the top talent from a 200 mile radius and win games. That's just a popularity contest and if you want to see how that works out, just go compare some current pictures to the yearbook pictures of the girls you thought were smokin hot back in High School!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals have killed the best teams, and I think they will continue to do so. Those kids play together once a month, and from what I understand, It's next to impossible to have all of their top players together for a single game or tourney. Those kids have skill, heart, work ethic and lax IQ. More importantly, they look like they have a ton of fun and exude good sportsmanship to our players when they played them. I've seen them play, as well as other top teams this summer and last summer. I assume they will keep getting better too. You gotta give them credit even though it's hard to admit.


DN have not killed the best teams. They had one good tournament this summer beat Hawks at nap town. Lost to Express in Boston with the same team that played in Annapolis. Also played up in tournament NY playing up 2021 went 1-3 Lot of new kids and parents trying hype DN like is the greatest team ever. Minicamps are good tournament teams ok and yes my son has played on DN for the last 2 years. It's extra lacrosse for kids that want more than just their Maryland club.


If you have been on the team for 2 years then you know that the team that lost by a goal to Express in Boston was not even close to the team that hammered Hawks and Express in the last month. There has been a lot of turnover on DN in the last 6 months and many kids that were on the team 2 years ago are either gone or sitting the bench.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals have killed the best teams, and I think they will continue to do so. Those kids play together once a month, and from what I understand, It's next to impossible to have all of their top players together for a single game or tourney. Those kids have skill, heart, work ethic and lax IQ. More importantly, they look like they have a ton of fun and exude good sportsmanship to our players when they played them. I've seen them play, as well as other top teams this summer and last summer. I assume they will keep getting better too. You gotta give them credit even though it's hard to admit.


DN have not killed the best teams. They had one good tournament this summer beat Hawks at nap town. Lost to Express in Boston with the same team that played in Annapolis. Also played up in tournament NY playing up 2021 went 1-3 Lot of new kids and parents trying hype DN like is the greatest team ever. Minicamps are good tournament teams ok and yes my son has played on DN for the last 2 years. It's extra lacrosse for kids that want more than just their Maryland club.


If you have been on the team for 2 years then you know that the team that lost by a goal to Express in Boston was not even close to the team that hammered Hawks and Express in the last month. There has been a lot of turnover on DN in the last 6 months and many kids that were on the team 2 years ago are either gone or sitting the bench.


The line up changes every time Dukes Nationals plays. Generally, if they have the Koopers 2021 kids, they kick but. Otherwise they are just ok.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals have killed the best teams, and I think they will continue to do so. Those kids play together once a month, and from what I understand, It's next to impossible to have all of their top players together for a single game or tourney. Those kids have skill, heart, work ethic and lax IQ. More importantly, they look like they have a ton of fun and exude good sportsmanship to our players when they played them. I've seen them play, as well as other top teams this summer and last summer. I assume they will keep getting better too. You gotta give them credit even though it's hard to admit.


I'm sorry but I have to disagree about the sportsmanship, at least regarding some of the Dukes kids at Naptown. I have never seen such arrogant 13 year olds in my life. I was embarrassed for them despite the fact that they played well. Their behavior was appalling.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals have killed the best teams, and I think they will continue to do so. Those kids play together once a month, and from what I understand, It's next to impossible to have all of their top players together for a single game or tourney. Those kids have skill, heart, work ethic and lax IQ. More importantly, they look like they have a ton of fun and exude good sportsmanship to our players when they played them. I've seen them play, as well as other top teams this summer and last summer. I assume they will keep getting better too. You gotta give them credit even though it's hard to admit.


I'm sorry but I have to disagree about the sportsmanship, at least regarding some of the Dukes kids at Naptown. I have never seen such arrogant 13 year olds in my life. I was embarrassed for them despite the fact that they played well. Their behavior was appalling.


Please provide an example of poor sportsmanship that you witnessed by any of those boys in Annapolis. I was at every game and never saw any trash talking or showboating going on.
I saw them hold the ball for the last 7 minutes of the 4th Q and not shoot any more
DN: far too much turnover, lack of development credibility (good minicamps but not enough to make it stick), good recruiters with connections
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals have killed the best teams, and I think they will continue to do so. Those kids play together once a month, and from what I understand, It's next to impossible to have all of their top players together for a single game or tourney. Those kids have skill, heart, work ethic and lax IQ. More importantly, they look like they have a ton of fun and exude good sportsmanship to our players when they played them. I've seen them play, as well as other top teams this summer and last summer. I assume they will keep getting better too. You gotta give them credit even though it's hard to admit.


I'm sorry but I have to disagree about the sportsmanship, at least regarding some of the Dukes kids at Naptown. I have never seen such arrogant 13 year olds in my life. I was embarrassed for them despite the fact that they played well. Their behavior was appalling.


Please provide an example of poor sportsmanship that you witnessed by any of those boys in Annapolis. I was at every game and never saw any trash talking or showboating going on.


They are the typical arrogant lax bros.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DN: far too much turnover, lack of development credibility (good minicamps but not enough to make it stick), good recruiters with connections


It's not Dukes Nationals that's so good. It's the Koopers 2021 kids. They make all the teams the play for better - Crabs, T91, Dukes, etc.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Crabs will stay in the Elite division but half their team is leaving.


They have to leave because they graduated.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals have killed the best teams, and I think they will continue to do so. Those kids play together once a month, and from what I understand, It's next to impossible to have all of their top players together for a single game or tourney. Those kids have skill, heart, work ethic and lax IQ. More importantly, they look like they have a ton of fun and exude good sportsmanship to our players when they played them. I've seen them play, as well as other top teams this summer and last summer. I assume they will keep getting better too. You gotta give them credit even though it's hard to admit.


I'm sorry but I have to disagree about the sportsmanship, at least regarding some of the Dukes kids at Naptown. I have never seen such arrogant 13 year olds in my life. I was embarrassed for them despite the fact that they played well. Their behavior was appalling.


Please provide an example of poor sportsmanship that you witnessed by any of those boys in Annapolis. I was at every game and never saw any trash talking or showboating going on.



Then you weren't listening. Absolutely goading other players throughout the games. You must have been on the other side of the field. I have no reason to make it up. I was just observing. It was blatant. And embarrassing.I won't get specific bc then I'd be pointing out kids.
That's just crazy. I was there and Dukes kids didn't say a word or act arrogant. They definitely honored the game in every way. Ask anyone they played against in that tournament and they will say the same thing. They did possess the ball against the Hawks for the last 2 minutes or so but despite getting unsportsmanlike slashes and hacks from the opponent, they kept their composure and sportsmanship. Honestly, this person sounds like a poor sport unable to accept a defeat from a very capable team. It's ok to lose, even if it's your own club's tourney, but do so with dignity, regroup and work harder. You don't need to make things up because of a rare loss. That's not the spirit of the creator's game........
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Crabs will stay in the Elite division but half their team is leaving.


They have to leave because they graduated.



Crabs 2022 seems to have to rebuild every year. It's been 3 years since they had a coach that didn't insult the players on a regular basis.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Crabs will stay in the Elite division but half their team is leaving.


They have to leave because they graduated.



Crabs 2022 seems to have to rebuild every year. It's been 3 years since they had a coach that didn't insult the players on a regular basis.

Looks like the '21s are showing up. VLC and Club Blue 2021s on Crabs 2022 roster that I recognize.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's just crazy. I was there and Dukes kids didn't say a word or act arrogant. They definitely honored the game in every way. Ask anyone they played against in that tournament and they will say the same thing. They did possess the ball against the Hawks for the last 2 minutes or so but despite getting unsportsmanlike slashes and hacks from the opponent, they kept their composure and sportsmanship. Honestly, this person sounds like a poor sport unable to accept a defeat from a very capable team. It's ok to lose, even if it's your own club's tourney, but do so with dignity, regroup and work harder. You don't need to make things up because of a rare loss. That's not the spirit of the creator's game........


? Nothing to do with Hawks. What are you talking about?
A lot of tryouts today
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Crabs will stay in the Elite division but half their team is leaving.


They have to leave because they graduated.



Crabs 2022 seems to have to rebuild every year. It's been 3 years since they had a coach that didn't insult the players on a regular basis.


Well at least they had one 4 years ago.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Crabs will stay in the Elite division but half their team is leaving.


They have to leave because they graduated.



Crabs 2022 seems to have to rebuild every year. It's been 3 years since they had a coach that didn't insult the players on a regular basis.


Well at least they had one 4 years ago.


They've been through 3 different coaching staff and under performed for each of them. At some point it's the kids right?
DC Express...thee absolute worst, most unprofessional, cluster @#$% of an excuse for a try out I've ever had the unfortunate luck to witness.

How can a group of guys that actually played the game at a high level hold something so low level and terrible. I mean, rec leagues do it better.



Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express...thee absolute worst, most unprofessional, cluster @#$% of an excuse for a try out I've ever had the unfortunate luck to witness.

How can a group of guys that actually played the game at a high level hold something so low level and terrible. I mean, rec leagues do it better.





Completely disagree - I think they do it right.
- Very few 1 on 1 drills which are unrealistic in real games
- First day mixed games to see who could play
- Second day best players from day one competed on same field to see which ones were A team, and which were B team
- Rest of the players competed to see who would fill out the B roster

Club Blue was well run, lots of talent the only compliant is the parking. Lots of kids drove down from MD. I think the parents drove down later after the kids as there were twice as many cars as kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express...thee absolute worst, most unprofessional, cluster @#$% of an excuse for a try out I've ever had the unfortunate luck to witness.

How can a group of guys that actually played the game at a high level hold something so low level and terrible. I mean, rec leagues do it better.




I heard the canceled the 2019 tryouts (DC Express) if they are so happy about the talent they have they better be way above 500 this Fall and summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So did the Hawks pickup any API players? What teams improved the most? Any AA teams jumping up to the elite this year or dropping down?


Crabs will stay in the Elite division but half their team is leaving.


They have to leave because they graduated.


This is funny.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express...thee absolute worst, most unprofessional, cluster @#$% of an excuse for a try out I've ever had the unfortunate luck to witness.

How can a group of guys that actually played the game at a high level hold something so low level and terrible. I mean, rec leagues do it better.





Completely disagree - I think they do it right.
- Very few 1 on 1 drills which are unrealistic in real games
- First day mixed games to see who could play
- Second day best players from day one competed on same field to see which ones were A team, and which were B team
- Rest of the players competed to see who would fill out the B roster



Very few drills?....they didn't do any drills. All they did is divide the mob into groups and had them play.

Did they do drills at the "tryout prep camp" they offered for an additional $275?.....no idea, wasn't there. Did they conduct drills on Sunday?

How exactly do you see who has fundamental skills when you have random teams comprised of mostly rec league level players that can't even throw and catch or pick up a ground ball? It was hard to watch that goat rope.

It was either a money grab because they already had the team plotted from the "tryout prep camp" the week prior or the staff are just that incompetent.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express...thee absolute worst, most unprofessional, cluster @#$% of an excuse for a try out I've ever had the unfortunate luck to witness.

How can a group of guys that actually played the game at a high level hold something so low level and terrible. I mean, rec leagues do it better.





Completely disagree - I think they do it right.
- Very few 1 on 1 drills which are unrealistic in real games
- First day mixed games to see who could play
- Second day best players from day one competed on same field to see which ones were A team, and which were B team
- Rest of the players competed to see who would fill out the B roster



Very few drills?....they didn't do any drills. All they did is divide the mob into groups and had them play.

Did they do drills at the "tryout prep camp" they offered for an additional $275?.....no idea, wasn't there. Did they conduct drills on Sunday?

How exactly do you see who has fundamental skills when you have random teams comprised of mostly rec league level players that can't even throw and catch or pick up a ground ball? It was hard to watch that goat rope.

It was either a money grab because they already had the team plotted from the "tryout prep camp" the week prior or the staff are just that incompetent.





That is same way UnderArmour does their tryouts. Split them up and let the games begin. Like Thunder dome out there.
Tryouts for a top level travel club are simple. If you have a big turnout: Phase 1: Line drills to separate the chaff from the wheat (which players should I take a long hard look at) and to let players (in their off season) warm up, Phase 2:scramble/build up drills and half and full field scrimmages to really determine, of the guys with good stick skills who can play...sometimes someone without great stick skills jumps off the page in Phase 2 due to superior athleticism. Frankly the format is less important than the number and quality of position specific qualified neutral (non parents or parents who can truly be object (white rhino among youth coaches, just kidding)) evaluators you have. Obviously the HC, OC and DC should have personnel types in mind based on their schematic objectives but in the end, you have to work with what you have.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express...thee absolute worst, most unprofessional, cluster @#$% of an excuse for a try out I've ever had the unfortunate luck to witness.

How can a group of guys that actually played the game at a high level hold something so low level and terrible. I mean, rec leagues do it better.





Completely disagree - I think they do it right.
- Very few 1 on 1 drills which are unrealistic in real games
- First day mixed games to see who could play
- Second day best players from day one competed on same field to see which ones were A team, and which were B team
- Rest of the players competed to see who would fill out the B roster



Very few drills?....they didn't do any drills. All they did is divide the mob into groups and had them play.

Did they do drills at the "tryout prep camp" they offered for an additional $275?.....no idea, wasn't there. Did they conduct drills on Sunday?

How exactly do you see who has fundamental skills when you have random teams comprised of mostly rec league level players that can't even throw and catch or pick up a ground ball? It was hard to watch that goat rope.

It was either a money grab because they already had the team plotted from the "tryout prep camp" the week prior or the staff are just that incompetent.





Defenders are supposed to drive their attackmen into the crease or the slide - how does that look in a 1v1 drill?

looking over at the "bad side" the second day, they didn't miss on any standouts
Bethesda is a Rec program. It's just that they are the best Rec program in the country. Look at their website.

Howard county is trying to do the same thing with their HoCo teams and not nearly so competitive.
Not a DC Express parent, but took my son to tryouts to see how he stacked up to the talent out there in case we have to switch teams before the spring 2018. Long timer reader, first time responding. I am responding because I could not keep quite to your post. I have taken my son to a lot of tryouts throughout his 6 years of travel lacrosse and this was one of the best tryouts he has attended. With that said, I think you are completely wrong with your evaluation of this tryout process. The best way to see if a kid can play, is by putting them in real games. If you want to buy a car, you take it for a test ride on the road, maybe even the highway to see how it performs, not in a closed course in the back of the dealer parking lot. If your son was trying out for a position which there were a lot of kids trying out for, then they had to take advantage of the few times they got to touch the ball or when the ball was on their side of the field. Even if they didn't get to touch the ball often, Were they doing the little things without being told to do so, like hustling, setting picks, communicating with their teammates, fIghting for ground balls, etc. DC Express had plenty of coaches out there evaluating all the players on two separate fields so there was no show of favortism. The kids played in four competitive games in two days, which is similar to what they would play in tournaments. By this point in their lacrosse careers, drills aren't going to show the coaches if the kid can play, when under pressure. Also by this point, the kids have to know how to catch and pass, especially on the move like in a game. Putting them in real games is the only way to correctly evaluate if they have a high lacrosse IQ, by making the right pass, moving the ball at the right times, if they can fake and pass or shot, etc. I'm sorry your son was not selected, but there was a lot of great talent trying out. It was impressive to see so many kids from so many different quality clubs trying out for DC Express. They will be a serious contender moving forward. They had quality coaches with their head on a swivel conducting evaluations. I did not see a coach looking at their phones, during the evacuation process, like I have at other tryouts. Good luck DC Express. Like, I said not a DC parent, but had the option to be.
What is the first big Fall Tourney most teams will play in ?
Looks like most teams are done with try outs, is there any still trying out?
Should be another good year for this age group.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is the first big Fall Tourney most teams will play in ?


Looking like Toomey's Battle On The Bay will have the best teams again.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like most teams are done with try outs, is there any still trying out?
Should be another good year for this age group.


Diamondbacks, Cannons, Lax Factory, Next Level, Madlax, and VLC are the last of the higher competition level teams with one last tryout this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like most teams are done with try outs, is there any still trying out?
Should be another good year for this age group.


Diamondbacks, Cannons, Lax Factory, Next Level, Madlax, and VLC are the last of the higher competition level teams with one last tryout this weekend.



Well if cant make one of the top teams you can go to one of the last tryouts listed all B teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bethesda is a Rec program. It's just that they are the best Rec program in the country. Look at their website.


LOL. They are far from the best rec program in the nation. Every other legit rec lacrosse area is a league where each town is represented by a rec club. In Montgomery County, there are no separate rec clubs - just really Bethesda. If Fairfax or Loudoun County was just represented by a single A team per grade, they would pummel Bethesda, as would Anne Arundel County, Baltimore, counties in Long Island, etc.

I was at the Bethesda tryouts and agree that it was stupid just to play games and separate the As from the Bs for the 2nd day. Guys get fewer reps to show what they can do when it's a game and the ball is on the other side for 50% or more of the time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
cmon fogo dads... kiss and make up!


So that is who is responsible for this nonsense??? Let's just break out the ruler and see who is the better man. If it's a tie(@2.2inches probably ) just pick a goalie from Hawks and Diamondbacks and you 2 clowns can have a braveheart to see who is the bigger man.


Fogo dads now both on Hawks. We'll see if the nonsense stops .... or will it just get better?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]cmon fogo dads... kiss and make up!


So that is who is responsible for this nonsense??? Let's just break out the ruler and see who is the better man. If it's a tie(@2.2inches probably ) just pick a goalie from Hawks and Diamondbacks and you 2 clowns can have a braveheart to see who is the bigger man.


Fogo dads now both on Hawks. We'll see if the nonsense stops .... or will it just get better?

Hawks picked up some nice pieces
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]cmon fogo dads... kiss and make up!


So that is who is responsible for this nonsense??? Let's just break out the ruler and see who is the better man. If it's a tie(@2.2inches probably ) just pick a goalie from Hawks and Diamondbacks and you 2 clowns can have a braveheart to see who is the bigger man.


Fogo dads now both on Hawks. We'll see if the nonsense stops .... or will it just get better?

Hawks picked up some nice pieces


How many api players went over to the hawks?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]cmon fogo dads... kiss and make up!


So that is who is responsible for this nonsense??? Let's just break out the ruler and see who is the better man. If it's a tie(@2.2inches probably ) just pick a goalie from Hawks and Diamondbacks and you 2 clowns can have a braveheart to see who is the bigger man.


Fogo dads now both on Hawks. We'll see if the nonsense stops .... or will it just get better?

Hawks picked up some nice pieces


We will be very good again but things will feel different this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]cmon fogo dads... kiss and make up!


So that is who is responsible for this nonsense??? Let's just break out the ruler and see who is the better man. If it's a tie(@2.2inches probably ) just pick a goalie from Hawks and Diamondbacks and you 2 clowns can have a braveheart to see who is the bigger man.


Fogo dads now both on Hawks. We'll see if the nonsense stops .... or will it just get better?

Hawks picked up some nice pieces


They sure did and all of them should be playing 2021. Typical Hawks new path, holdbacks, the more, the better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]cmon fogo dads... kiss and make up!


So that is who is responsible for this nonsense??? Let's just break out the ruler and see who is the better man. If it's a tie(@2.2inches probably ) just pick a goalie from Hawks and Diamondbacks and you 2 clowns can have a braveheart to see who is the bigger man.


Fogo dads now both on Hawks. We'll see if the nonsense stops .... or will it just get better?

Hawks picked up some nice pieces


How many api players went over to the hawks?


Quite a few of their 2021's.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]cmon fogo dads... kiss and make up!


So that is who is responsible for this nonsense??? Let's just break out the ruler and see who is the better man. If it's a tie(@2.2inches probably ) just pick a goalie from Hawks and Diamondbacks and you 2 clowns can have a braveheart to see who is the bigger man.


Fogo dads now both on Hawks. We'll see if the nonsense stops .... or will it just get better?

Hawks picked up some nice pieces


How many api players went over to the hawks?



How many Hawk players went to API?
Go down the list from last years HOCO Elite division. I know there are parents from all the teams that troll this site.

Hawks
BLC
91
RR
MadLax
Crabs
Next level
FCA
API

Who is back for 2018 season???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]cmon fogo dads... kiss and make up!


So that is who is responsible for this nonsense??? Let's just break out the ruler and see who is the better man. If it's a tie(@2.2inches probably ) just pick a goalie from Hawks and Diamondbacks and you 2 clowns can have a braveheart to see who is the bigger man.


Fogo dads now both on Hawks. We'll see if the nonsense stops .... or will it just get better?

Hawks picked up some nice pieces


How many api players went over to the hawks?



How many Hawk players went to API?


Wait and see. Still having tryouts.
Pre-Fall Tournament Rankings among the 2022s?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pre-Fall Tournament Rankings among the 2022s?



Teams are not done with tryouts yet. Freak.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go down the list from last years HOCO Elite division. I know there are parents from all the teams that troll this site.

Hawks
BLC
91
RR
MadLax
Crabs
Next level
FCA
API

Who is back for 2018 season???


NL won't be back in Elite - they lost 3 of their better players to DC Express
Then how weak is DC Express?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go down the list from last years HOCO Elite division. I know there are parents from all the teams that troll this site.

Hawks
BLC
91
RR
MadLax
Crabs
Next level
FCA
API

Who is back for 2018 season???


NL won't be back in Elite - they lost 3 of their better players to DC Express


api won't be back in elite either.
DC Express will compete with Hawks this year. Got deeper and stronger.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express will compete with Hawks this year. Got deeper and stronger.


FCA picked up some strong player too. The problem is, Hawks picked up a bunch also.
Koopers is the team this year, their 2021s that are really 2022s are forming a team.
RR is stronger and has the best coaches
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express will compete with Hawks this year. Got deeper and stronger.

DC Express will have more holdbacks that's for sure
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers is the team this year, their 2021s that are really 2022s are forming a team.


Agreed - this will be the team to beat if all 5 Koopers 2021s join with the Philly all-stars.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RR is stronger and has the best coaches


Overall they are pretty small and probably don't have enough holdbacks make a real push for the HoCo championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express will compete with Hawks this year. Got deeper and stronger.


FCA picked up some strong player too. The problem is, Hawks picked up a bunch also.


Did fca and Express get the kids from other teams or just reclassing within the organization?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go down the list from last years HOCO Elite division. I know there are parents from all the teams that troll this site.

Hawks
BLC
91
RR
MadLax
Crabs
Next level
FCA
API

Who is back for 2018 season???


NL won't be back in Elite - they lost 3 of their better players to DC Express


api won't be back in elite either.


Any chance Lax Factory, Looneys, 3D , Thunder, Peninsula, or Club Blue moves up?

Fca and crabs might consider moving down also.



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go down the list from last years HOCO Elite division. I know there are parents from all the teams that troll this site.

Hawks
BLC
91
RR
MadLax
Crabs
Next level
FCA
API

Who is back for 2018 season???


NL won't be back in Elite - they lost 3 of their better players to DC Express


api won't be back in elite either.


Any chance Lax Factory, Looneys, 3D , Thunder, Peninsula, or Club Blue moves up?

Fca and crabs might consider moving down also.





Crabs and FCA will never move down, take that to the Bank. Both have former high school and/or college HCs in charge and on the staff. Coaching becomes more important as the boys get older. Both of these clubs have great connections with high school and college coaches. Lots of selfish parents out there: you have to be crazy to leave either or these two storied clubs.
I guarantee that Fca, crabs, and api willl all play in elite
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go down the list from last years HOCO Elite division. I know there are parents from all the teams that troll this site.

Hawks
BLC
91
RR
MadLax
Crabs
Next level
FCA
API

Who is back for 2018 season???


Maybe Koopers moves up and Next Level moves down. Crabs and FCA will improve from last year. 91 and RR will move down. Hawks and Bethesda will be at the top. API might not survive.
Does it matter ..


Crabs and FCA will never move down, take that to the Bank. Both have former high school and/or college HCs in charge and on the staff. Coaching becomes more important as the boys get older. Both of these clubs have great connections with high school and college coaches. Lots of selfish parents out there: you have to be crazy to leave either or these two storied clubs. [/quote]

child please

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go down the list from last years HOCO Elite division. I know there are parents from all the teams that troll this site.

Hawks
BLC
91
RR
MadLax
Crabs
Next level
FCA
API

Who is back for 2018 season???


Maybe Koopers moves up and Next Level moves down. Crabs and FCA will improve from last year. 91 and RR will move down. Hawks and Bethesda will be at the top. API might not survive.


RR was one of the top teams in the age group at the end of last summer. I read somewhere they had 60 boys try out. Am I missing something.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express will compete with Hawks this year. Got deeper and stronger.


FCA picked up some strong player too. The problem is, Hawks picked up a bunch also.


Did fca and Express get the kids from other teams or just reclassing within the organization?


FCA kids from other teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go down the list from last years HOCO Elite division. I know there are parents from all the teams that troll this site.

Hawks
BLC
91
RR
MadLax
Crabs
Next level
FCA
API

Who is back for 2018 season???


NL won't be back in Elite - they lost 3 of their better players to DC Express


api won't be back in elite either.


Any chance Lax Factory, Looneys, 3D , Thunder, Peninsula, or Club Blue moves up?

Fca and crabs might consider moving down also.





FCA will be much improved this year. Crabs is going to struggle as usual. Neither of them are moving down.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go down the list from last years HOCO Elite division. I know there are parents from all the teams that troll this site.

Hawks
BLC
91
RR
MadLax
Crabs
Next level
FCA
API

Who is back for 2018 season???


Maybe Koopers moves up and Next Level moves down. Crabs and FCA will improve from last year. 91 and RR will move down. Hawks and Bethesda will be at the top. API might not survive.


RR is much better this year. So is FCA. Crabs and 91 will struggle this year. None of them will move down.
Crabs lost several of their best players to other teams.
HOCO Elite league

Hawks
BLC
FCA
DC Express
Koopers
RR
91
Crabs
Mad lax
API

Hopefully we will all get a chance to play each other once.
Ok. Sure you are correct. But how can RR get better to compete in AA? 0-12 two years. No picks ups from best teams. No kids from AA teams rushing to RR. Stop it RR dad. Next up 0 and 18. Go A or maybe B. Take 89-2 with you. That team skews playoff seeding for teams that belong in AA. All teams don't have the luxury of the schedule for auto wins against RR and 89+2. And for that matter until this year looneys. Those 3 combined for 2-30 record in HoCo over 2 years (89 + 2 only 1 year).
2022 is the year of the reclassed 2021's... Whats the general observation...is it just a few..a lot ..or hardly any??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs lost several of their best players to other teams.


Wonder if many are switching due to schools they intend to go to in High School...Know several that have done that?/
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok. Sure you are correct. But how can RR get better to compete in AA? 0-12 two years. No picks ups from best teams. No kids from AA teams rushing to RR. Stop it RR dad. Next up 0 and 18. Go A or maybe B. Take 89-2 with you. That team skews playoff seeding for teams that belong in AA. All teams don't have the luxury of the schedule for auto wins against RR and 89+2. And for that matter until this year looneys. Those 3 combined for 2-30 record in HoCo over 2 years (89 + 2 only 1 year).

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok. Sure you are correct. But how can RR get better to compete in AA? 0-12 two years. No picks ups from best teams. No kids from AA teams rushing to RR. Stop it RR dad. Next up 0 and 18. Go A or maybe B. Take 89-2 with you. That team skews playoff seeding for teams that belong in AA. All teams don't have the luxury of the schedule for auto wins against RR and 89+2. And for that matter until this year looneys. Those 3 combined for 2-30 record in HoCo over 2 years (89 + 2 only 1 year).


You have no idea what you are talking about.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok. Sure you are correct. But how can RR get better to compete in AA? 0-12 two years. No picks ups from best teams. No kids from AA teams rushing to RR. Stop it RR dad. Next up 0 and 18. Go A or maybe B. Take 89-2 with you. That team skews playoff seeding for teams that belong in AA. All teams don't have the luxury of the schedule for auto wins against RR and 89+2. And for that matter until this year looneys. Those 3 combined for 2-30 record in HoCo over 2 years (89 + 2 only 1 year).


Looks like you're talking about 2023. This is 2022 genius
Hawks 3 reclass from 2021
We know crabs 2 or 3 reclass
Fca will have some
Joining the pack is API will have 3 or 4 reclass from 2021

This year 2022 is the year of reclass
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks 3 reclass from 2021
We know crabs 2 or 3 reclass
Fca will have some
Joining the pack is API will have 3 or 4 reclass from 2021

This year 2022 is the year of reclass


Thanks you detective holdback.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok. Sure you are correct. But how can RR get better to compete in AA? 0-12 two years. No picks ups from best teams. No kids from AA teams rushing to RR. Stop it RR dad. Next up 0 and 18. Go A or maybe B. Take 89-2 with you. That team skews playoff seeding for teams that belong in AA. All teams don't have the luxury of the schedule for auto wins against RR and 89+2. And for that matter until this year looneys. Those 3 combined for 2-30 record in HoCo over 2 years (89 + 2 only 1 year).


Looks like you're talking about 2023. This is 2022 genius


So clueless, yet so confident!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks 3 reclass from 2021
We know crabs 2 or 3 reclass
Fca will have some
Joining the pack is API will have 3 or 4 reclass from 2021

This year 2022 is the year of reclass


Another case closed by detective holdback.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs lost several of their best players to other teams.


Wonder if many are switching due to schools they intend to go to in High School...Know several that have done that?/


I doubt the nova and Bethesda kids filling the gaps in 2022 are doing it to go to BL.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO Elite league

Hawks
BLC
FCA
DC Express
Koopers
RR
91
Crabs
Mad lax
API

Hopefully we will all get a chance to play each other once.


Just think how good BLC and D.C. express could be if they joined together. smile


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
cmon fogo dads... kiss and make up!


So that is who is responsible for this nonsense??? Let's just break out the ruler and see who is the better man. If it's a tie(@2.2inches probably ) just pick a goalie from Hawks and Diamondbacks and you 2 clowns can have a braveheart to see who is the bigger man.


Fogo dads now both on Hawks. We'll see if the nonsense stops .... or will it just get better?


Home of the pinched FO heads!
How many reclasses does BLC have? They sure have some big boys.
Wonder how the actual boys playing feel about being reclassed. Obviously the parents buy into it. Parents either wanting their kid to have an advantage on the field or tired of watching their kid get beat out by a prefirst ( same thing as reclass, just earlier).

Crazy world of lacrosse. Generally similar things happen in other sports like this at the High School level..not Youth..



Anybody know when True Blue 2022 invites will be sent out?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok. Sure you are correct. But how can RR get better to compete in AA? 0-12 two years. No picks ups from best teams. No kids from AA teams rushing to RR. Stop it RR dad. Next up 0 and 18. Go A or maybe B. Take 89-2 with you. That team skews playoff seeding for teams that belong in AA. All teams don't have the luxury of the schedule for auto wins against RR and 89+2. And for that matter until this year looneys. Those 3 combined for 2-30 record in HoCo over 2 years (89 + 2 only 1 year).


Isn't this particular forum 2022? You're talking about 2023.
BLC ends at 7th Grade and DCE starts at 8th grade so your scenario would never happen.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wonder how the actual boys playing feel about being reclassed. Obviously the parents buy into it. Parents either wanting their kid to have an advantage on the field or tired of watching their kid get beat out by a prefirst ( same thing as reclass, just earlier).

Crazy world of lacrosse. Generally similar things happen in other sports like this at the High School level..not Youth..





If the kids are given the choice between playing for D.C. Express and reclassing or MD Xtreme and staying on age, they are choosing to reclassing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody know when True Blue 2022 invites will be sent out?


Is that an MD club?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs lost several of their best players to other teams.


And replaced them from kids from other club's B teams in many cases. Should be a fun year for those kids that have tried to stick it out with Crabs. Team is a mess
Are there any good box lacrosse programs anywhere in Maryland? I can't seem to find one on line.
A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok. Sure you are correct. But how can RR get better to compete in AA? 0-12 two years. No picks ups from best teams. No kids from AA teams rushing to RR. Stop it RR dad. Next up 0 and 18. Go A or maybe B. Take 89-2 with you. That team skews playoff seeding for teams that belong in AA. All teams don't have the luxury of the schedule for auto wins against RR and 89+2. And for that matter until this year looneys. Those 3 combined for 2-30 record in HoCo over 2 years (89 + 2 only 1 year).


Looks like you're talking about 2023. This is 2022 genius


So clueless, yet so confident!



You are clueless!!! RR picked up players from Hawks and 91. They are an AA team!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any good box lacrosse programs anywhere in Maryland? I can't seem to find one on line.



The best Box league is the Goals Baltimore League in Catonsville.

Next Level runs a pretty good one in Rockville also. It is more like a bunch of pickup games than a real league.

Madlax runs one out of Dulles but it is mostly B teams.

It would be awesome if Nercc in Parkville could get something going on their multiple regulation indoor box fields.

DuBurns and Resisterstown Sportsplex have great single fields but have don't have strong leagues.

Myers pavilion has a really good box league for high school kids that Crabs and Rock were in last year.

There are a couple outdoor/indoor leagues with nets instead of boards at with MMILL at SoccerStop in Columbia and API may have a league.

Fisc in Frederick also has incredible multiple regulation box fields and has a league. Check the LaxFaxtory site.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....


Crabs is still the best at putting together teams for recruiting visibility in high school. Not so good at working with developing elementary and middle schoolers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....


Crabs is still the best at putting together teams for recruiting visibility in high school. Not so good at working with developing elementary and middle schoolers.


You say that because those teams were already together before things started to fall apart. If you think kids are going to move to Crabs 2022 for high school you are nuts. That team is toxic and filled with soft kids that are catered to by the club. That is why kids left. Not just RM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs lost several of their best players to other teams.


And replaced them from kids from other club's B teams in many cases. Should be a fun year for those kids that have tried to stick it out with Crabs. Team is a mess



Stop talking out of your round and brown. Nobody knows what this group of young men is capable of at this point. If they [lacrosse] the bed come spring, then you can howl at the moon all you want. Until then, you have no clue what kind of talent they picked up or how the team will gel.



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....


Crabs is still the best at putting together teams for recruiting visibility in high school. Not so good at working with developing elementary and middle schoolers.


You say that because those teams were already together before things started to fall apart. If you think kids are going to move to Crabs 2022 for high school you are nuts. That team is toxic and filled with soft kids that are catered to by the club. That is why kids left. Not just RM


I think the Crabs name in the high school recruiters minds will be very high for a long time. You forget that the college coaches do not follow each clubs ups and downs like us parents and locals do. They are aware of the best tournaments to see the best players and the Crabs will be at them. So when your son is in high school and he wants to play for a club at the best events you will take him to the Crabs. Year to year these teams rotate who has the best of the best kids/teams but the parents of great players playing for clubs not at the top events will show up to the crabs tryouts in high school.
Because when your son is a upcoming sophomore or Jr. you care very little about mean coaches and flat brim hats. You just want him playing in the best events with a shot to be seen by the most coaches. Who by the way do not care 1 cent about who wins or loses these games at the high school age.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....


Crabs is still the best at putting together teams for recruiting visibility in high school. Not so good at working with developing elementary and middle schoolers.


You say that because those teams were already together before things started to fall apart. If you think kids are going to move to Crabs 2022 for high school you are nuts. That team is toxic and filled with soft kids that are catered to by the club. That is why kids left. Not just RM


I think the Crabs name in the high school recruiters minds will be very high for a long time. You forget that the college coaches do not follow each clubs ups and downs like us parents and locals do. They are aware of the best tournaments to see the best players and the Crabs will be at them. So when your son is in high school and he wants to play for a club at the best events you will take him to the Crabs. Year to year these teams rotate who has the best of the best kids/teams but the parents of great players playing for clubs not at the top events will show up to the crabs tryouts in high school.
Because when your son is a upcoming sophomore or Jr. you care very little about mean coaches and flat brim hats. You just want him playing in the best events with a shot to be seen by the most coaches. Who by the way do not care 1 cent about who wins or loses these games at the high school age.


Putting up with bad coaching and verbal insults for 2 or 3 tournements over 2 summer months in order to get excellent visibility is worth doing in high school. Putting up with it year round for no visibility in middle school doesn't work.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any good box lacrosse programs anywhere in Maryland? I can't seem to find one on line.



The best Box league is the Goals Baltimore League in Catonsville.

Next Level runs a pretty good one in Rockville also. It is more like a bunch of pickup games than a real league.

Madlax runs one out of Dulles but it is mostly B teams.

It would be awesome if Nercc in Parkville could get something going on their multiple regulation indoor box fields.

DuBurns and Resisterstown Sportsplex have great single fields but have don't have strong leagues.

Myers pavilion has a really good box league for high school kids that Crabs and Rock were in last year.

There are a couple outdoor/indoor leagues with nets instead of boards at with MMILL at SoccerStop in Columbia and API may have a league.

Fisc in Frederick also has incredible multiple regulation box fields and has a league. Check the LaxFaxtory site.


3D runs a pretty good indoor league for high schoolers in Annapolis . It is not real Box and has nets instead of boards.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....


Crabs is still the best at putting together teams for recruiting visibility in high school. Not so good at working with developing elementary and middle schoolers.


You say that because those teams were already together before things started to fall apart. If you think kids are going to move to Crabs 2022 for high school you are nuts. That team is toxic and filled with soft kids that are catered to by the club. That is why kids left. Not just RM


I think the Crabs name in the high school recruiters minds will be very high for a long time. You forget that the college coaches do not follow each clubs ups and downs like us parents and locals do. They are aware of the best tournaments to see the best players and the Crabs will be at them. So when your son is in high school and he wants to play for a club at the best events you will take him to the Crabs. Year to year these teams rotate who has the best of the best kids/teams but the parents of great players playing for clubs not at the top events will show up to the crabs tryouts in high school.
Because when your son is a upcoming sophomore or Jr. you care very little about mean coaches and flat brim hats. You just want him playing in the best events with a shot to be seen by the most coaches. Who by the way do not care 1 cent about who wins or loses these games at the high school age.



"Mean Coaches"

Mommy and Daddy fully expect snowflake to just burn it up out there in MS. Then right into a Varsity slot as a Freshman in HS and of course a early pickup right into a top D1 program.

But all the while, nobody better yell at him or hold him accountable for his own mistakes, action's, in-actions, laziness, bad attitude etc.

I mean because we ALL know, HS coaches don't yell...Petro never yell's at the crew over on Charles Street.

You watch NFL training camp on the boob tube and none of those coaches EVER yell or hold any of those adult males accountable either.

Parent's need to pull their heads out of their asses, wake up and get a clue.

You should be seeking out coaches to yell at your kids and give them a swift kick in their @ss. It's called REAL LIFE.




Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....


Crabs is still the best at putting together teams for recruiting visibility in high school. Not so good at working with developing elementary and middle schoolers.


You say that because those teams were already together before things started to fall apart. If you think kids are going to move to Crabs 2022 for high school you are nuts. That team is toxic and filled with soft kids that are catered to by the club. That is why kids left. Not just RM


I think the Crabs name in the high school recruiters minds will be very high for a long time. You forget that the college coaches do not follow each clubs ups and downs like us parents and locals do. They are aware of the best tournaments to see the best players and the Crabs will be at them. So when your son is in high school and he wants to play for a club at the best events you will take him to the Crabs. Year to year these teams rotate who has the best of the best kids/teams but the parents of great players playing for clubs not at the top events will show up to the crabs tryouts in high school.
Because when your son is a upcoming sophomore or Jr. you care very little about mean coaches and flat brim hats. You just want him playing in the best events with a shot to be seen by the most coaches. Who by the way do not care 1 cent about who wins or loses these games at the high school age.



"Mean Coaches"

Mommy and Daddy fully expect snowflake to just burn it up out there in MS. Then right into a Varsity slot as a Freshman in HS and of course a early pickup right into a top D1 program.

But all the while, nobody better yell at him or hold him accountable for his own mistakes, action's, in-actions, laziness, bad attitude etc.

I mean because we ALL know, HS coaches don't yell...Petro never yell's at the crew over on Charles Street.

You watch NFL training camp on the boob tube and none of those coaches EVER yell or hold any of those adult males accountable either.

Parent's need to pull their heads out of their asses, wake up and get a clue.

You should be seeking out coaches to yell at your kids and give them a swift kick in their @ss. It's called REAL LIFE.






No parent wants their 6th graders called F-ing pussies on a regular basis.

Real world or not, it is not appropriate for most of society. Parents still want model behavior from their teachers and coaches at this age.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....


Crabs is still the best at putting together teams for recruiting visibility in high school. Not so good at working with developing elementary and middle schoolers.


You say that because those teams were already together before things started to fall apart. If you think kids are going to move to Crabs 2022 for high school you are nuts. That team is toxic and filled with soft kids that are catered to by the club. That is why kids left. Not just RM


I think the Crabs name in the high school recruiters minds will be very high for a long time. You forget that the college coaches do not follow each clubs ups and downs like us parents and locals do. They are aware of the best tournaments to see the best players and the Crabs will be at them. So when your son is in high school and he wants to play for a club at the best events you will take him to the Crabs. Year to year these teams rotate who has the best of the best kids/teams but the parents of great players playing for clubs not at the top events will show up to the crabs tryouts in high school.
Because when your son is a upcoming sophomore or Jr. you care very little about mean coaches and flat brim hats. You just want him playing in the best events with a shot to be seen by the most coaches. Who by the way do not care 1 cent about who wins or loses these games at the high school age.



"Mean Coaches"

Mommy and Daddy fully expect snowflake to just burn it up out there in MS. Then right into a Varsity slot as a Freshman in HS and of course a early pickup right into a top D1 program.

But all the while, nobody better yell at him or hold him accountable for his own mistakes, action's, in-actions, laziness, bad attitude etc.

I mean because we ALL know, HS coaches don't yell...Petro never yell's at the crew over on Charles Street.

You watch NFL training camp on the boob tube and none of those coaches EVER yell or hold any of those adult males accountable either.

Parent's need to pull their heads out of their asses, wake up and get a clue.

You should be seeking out coaches to yell at your kids and give them a swift kick in their @ss. It's called REAL LIFE.






OK. You are correct. There is nothing wrong with yelling at the kids. However, what is being yelled makes a big difference. If you are yelling actual instructions on how to do something properly that may be effective. But RM and his fellow Crabs coaches yelling asking wth they are doing or telling them that they are terrible or other fantastic nuggets of advice is useless and counterproductive. It's called coaching. Coach the kids up. Don't belittle them with no instruction.
Originally Posted by Anonymous


"Mean Coaches"

Mommy and Daddy fully expect snowflake to just burn it up out there in MS. Then right into a Varsity slot as a Freshman in HS and of course a early pickup right into a top D1 program.

But all the while, nobody better yell at him or hold him accountable for his own mistakes, action's, in-actions, laziness, bad attitude etc.

I mean because we ALL know, HS coaches don't yell...Petro never yell's at the crew over on Charles Street.

You watch NFL training camp on the boob tube and none of those coaches EVER yell or hold any of those adult males accountable either.

Parent's need to pull their heads out of their asses, wake up and get a clue.

You should be seeking out coaches to yell at your kids and give them a swift kick in their @ss. It's called REAL LIFE.


There are plenty of good coaches who yell, correct, coach, push and encourage. Then, there are the aholes who just yell, demean and break kids down because they hope to replace them at the next tryout. To each his own, but if you think giving your money to a self-promoting [lacrosse] is the only path to success, more power to you. There are a few coaches at this age group who get it done without being raving lunatics.
Who are the past HoCo champs at this grade?
Don't make it just the responsibility of coaches to teach your kids. You do have to go home and pick up a stick and play catch. Not many parents know how to play the sport. They don't even understand the sport. Parents are so critical of these coaches who take their time and are trying to help your kids get better. So much negativity centered around them. Why don't you volunteer your time to coach if you don't like what is happening? Hey, why don't you take the goals in for the coach or field phone calls or set up scrimmages? You can't be critical when you literally do nothing!!! $2000.00 a kid isn't s$it to pay for your child to play a sport. Stop complaining!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....


Crabs is still the best at putting together teams for recruiting visibility in high school. Not so good at working with developing elementary and middle schoolers.


You say that because those teams were already together before things started to fall apart. If you think kids are going to move to Crabs 2022 for high school you are nuts. That team is toxic and filled with soft kids that are catered to by the club. That is why kids left. Not just RM


I think the Crabs name in the high school recruiters minds will be very high for a long time. You forget that the college coaches do not follow each clubs ups and downs like us parents and locals do. They are aware of the best tournaments to see the best players and the Crabs will be at them. So when your son is in high school and he wants to play for a club at the best events you will take him to the Crabs. Year to year these teams rotate who has the best of the best kids/teams but the parents of great players playing for clubs not at the top events will show up to the crabs tryouts in high school.
Because when your son is a upcoming sophomore or Jr. you care very little about mean coaches and flat brim hats. You just want him playing in the best events with a shot to be seen by the most coaches. Who by the way do not care 1 cent about who wins or loses these games at the high school age.



"Mean Coaches"

Mommy and Daddy fully expect snowflake to just burn it up out there in MS. Then right into a Varsity slot as a Freshman in HS and of course a early pickup right into a top D1 program.

But all the while, nobody better yell at him or hold him accountable for his own mistakes, action's, in-actions, laziness, bad attitude etc.

I mean because we ALL know, HS coaches don't yell...Petro never yell's at the crew over on Charles Street.

You watch NFL training camp on the boob tube and none of those coaches EVER yell or hold any of those adult males accountable either.

Parent's need to pull their heads out of their asses, wake up and get a clue.

You should be seeking out coaches to yell at your kids and give them a swift kick in their @ss. It's called REAL LIFE.






Not all of us parents are helicopter parents and are worried about our snowflake kids, yelling at a child and being verbally abusive are 2 very different things though!! I am fine with coaches yelling and holding my son accountable for his actions/playing, but calling kids f*cking idiots, pussies. telling them they suck and should just quit, calling them a loser, fat and slow, and having other teammates do these things is bullying and abusive behaviors.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't make it just the responsibility of coaches to teach your kids. You do have to go home and pick up a stick and play catch. Not many parents know how to play the sport. They don't even understand the sport. Parents are so critical of these coaches who take their time and are trying to help your kids get better. So much negativity centered around them. Why don't you volunteer your time to coach if you don't like what is happening? Hey, why don't you take the goals in for the coach or field phone calls or set up scrimmages? You can't be critical when you literally do nothing!!! $2000.00 a kid isn't s$it to pay for your child to play a sport. Stop complaining!


You signed up to coach...so suck it up and do the job!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the past HoCo champs at this grade?


2017 Hawks
2016 Hawks (NPYLL folded)
2015 Diamondbacks - Hoco, Cannons - NPYLL
2014 Roughriders - Hoco, Breakers - NPYLL
2013 ? - Hoco, Cannons - NPYLL

No surprise that many of the Cannons kids are now on Hawks


Smart parents of top middle school players look for coaches who are tough, demanding but not abusive. Pushing the kids hard (loud instruction and being demonstrative) is fine as long as its not abusive or counterproductive: Some parents can't discern the difference between the two. Wake up club coaches: Paying $2k is a lot of money to play a sport. Most top players in the MLL paid $150 per season and played for top rec teams in middle school. They turned out ok didn't they. For $2k, parents expect a very good and committed staff, good practice facilities and a good nucleus of players that are being developed into better players. Doesn't have to be the best team but very competitive and always improving. And yes college coaches do know who the best elite club teams are for each graduating class. Their profession has a lot of down time, and they talk about teams and players incessantly. Athleticism, Size, Speed, Skills, IQ are what make you a D1 college candidate. Does playing for a really good club team give you a leg up. In the past definitely, since the recruiting window was so small. Now, a college staff has three summers of tournaments, showcases and prospect camps and two years of high school film before they can talk to you. Don't think for a moment that doesn't change the equation and reduce the importance of a club's legacy.. Some club coaches (and talent evaluation gurus) haven't gotten the memo. Your development window is now 3 years (I'm including 8th grade) vs. the ever shrinking early recruiting window. College coaches want to be efficient and see the best players/teams period. Just because the name on the back of the jersey is XX, doesn't mean they're a can't miss team or prospect.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....


Crabs is still the best at putting together teams for recruiting visibility in high school. Not so good at working with developing elementary and middle schoolers.


You say that because those teams were already together before things started to fall apart. If you think kids are going to move to Crabs 2022 for high school you are nuts. That team is toxic and filled with soft kids that are catered to by the club. That is why kids left. Not just RM


I think the Crabs name in the high school recruiters minds will be very high for a long time. You forget that the college coaches do not follow each clubs ups and downs like us parents and locals do. They are aware of the best tournaments to see the best players and the Crabs will be at them. So when your son is in high school and he wants to play for a club at the best events you will take him to the Crabs. Year to year these teams rotate who has the best of the best kids/teams but the parents of great players playing for clubs not at the top events will show up to the crabs tryouts in high school.
Because when your son is a upcoming sophomore or Jr. you care very little about mean coaches and flat brim hats. You just want him playing in the best events with a shot to be seen by the most coaches. Who by the way do not care 1 cent about who wins or loses these games at the high school age.



"Mean Coaches"

Mommy and Daddy fully expect snowflake to just burn it up out there in MS. Then right into a Varsity slot as a Freshman in HS and of course a early pickup right into a top D1 program.

But all the while, nobody better yell at him or hold him accountable for his own mistakes, action's, in-actions, laziness, bad attitude etc.

I mean because we ALL know, HS coaches don't yell...Petro never yell's at the crew over on Charles Street.

You watch NFL training camp on the boob tube and none of those coaches EVER yell or hold any of those adult males accountable either.

Parent's need to pull their heads out of their asses, wake up and get a clue.

You should be seeking out coaches to yell at your kids and give them a swift kick in their @ss. It's called REAL LIFE.




Not all of us parents are helicopter parents and are worried about our snowflake kids, yelling at a child and being verbally abusive are 2 very different things though!! I am fine with coaches yelling and holding my son accountable for his actions/playing, but calling kids f*cking idiots, pussies. telling them they suck and should just quit, calling them a loser, fat and slow, and having other teammates do these things is bullying and abusive behaviors.


OP here and I absolutely agree with you, but the fact is...I've never heard a rec or travel Coach at the youth, middle school or even high school level call a player a [lacrosse], or loser. I've never heard a coach tell a kid to quit or that they are fat and slow. I've seen plenty of parents on here post about the "lunatic coaches", but again I've never actually seen the coaches they routinely name do or say anything outrageous as claimed. The people making all the noise about lunatic coaches are parents who think that their little snowflake is a celebrity because Daddy is the CEO of Nabisco and should have special treatment. The crazy part is that in the end...it's the kid that they are hurting the most with their alt left, Dr. Spock non sense.

Eventually, they will be exposed to the real world. Learning those hard life lesson's for the first time in your 20's and beyond sucks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any good box lacrosse programs anywhere in Maryland? I can't seem to find one on line.



The best Box league is the Goals Baltimore League in Catonsville.

Next Level runs a pretty good one in Rockville also. It is more like a bunch of pickup games than a real league.

Madlax runs one out of Dulles but it is mostly B teams.

It would be awesome if Nercc in Parkville could get something going on their multiple regulation indoor box fields.

DuBurns and Resisterstown Sportsplex have great single fields but have don't have strong leagues.

Myers pavilion has a really good box league for high school kids that Crabs and Rock were in last year.

There are a couple outdoor/indoor leagues with nets instead of boards at with MMILL at SoccerStop in Columbia and API may have a league.

Fisc in Frederick also has incredible multiple regulation box fields and has a league. Check the LaxFaxtory site.


3D runs a pretty good indoor league for high schoolers in Annapolis . It is not real Box and has nets instead of boards.



Zingos runs a winter league out of the soccer dome in Harmons by BWI that is for High School. It is called Crease lacrosse. Also with nets so not real box.
OP here and I absolutely agree with you, but the fact is...I've never heard a rec or travel Coach at the youth, middle school or even high school level call a player a [lacrosse], or loser. I've never heard a coach tell a kid to quit or that they are fat and slow. I've seen plenty of parents on here post about the "lunatic coaches", but again I've never actually seen the coaches they routinely name do or say anything outrageous as claimed. The people making all the noise about lunatic coaches are parents who think that their little snowflake is a celebrity because Daddy is the CEO of Nabisco and should have special treatment. The crazy part is that in the end...it's the kid that they are hurting the most with their alt left, Dr. Spock non sense.

Eventually, they will be exposed to the real world. Learning those hard life lesson's for the first time in your 20's and beyond sucks.
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Sorry buddy, ir just isn't alt left. Alt right is just as bad or maybe even worse.
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Not all of us parents are helicopter parents and are worried about our snowflake kids, yelling at a child and being verbally abusive are 2 very different things though!! I am fine with coaches yelling and holding my son accountable for his actions/playing, but calling kids f*cking idiots, pussies. telling them they suck and should just quit, calling them a loser, fat and slow, and having other teammates do these things is bullying and abusive behaviors.[/quote]

OP here and I absolutely agree with you, but the fact is...I've never heard a rec or travel Coach at the youth, middle school or even high school level call a player a [lacrosse], or loser. I've never heard a coach tell a kid to quit or that they are fat and slow. I've seen plenty of parents on here post about the "lunatic coaches", but again I've never actually seen the coaches they routinely name do or say anything outrageous as claimed. The people making all the noise about lunatic coaches are parents who think that their little snowflake is a celebrity because Daddy is the CEO of Nabisco and should have special treatment. The crazy part is that in the end...it's the kid that they are hurting the most with their alt left, Dr. Spock non sense.

Eventually, they will be exposed to the real world. Learning those hard life lesson's for the first time in your 20's and beyond sucks.
[/quote]


Then you are very fortunate and you have never watched MM coach. He says all of that and worse. It is horrible for the kids, parents and the sport!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OP here and I absolutely agree with you, but the fact is...I've never heard a rec or travel Coach at the youth, middle school or even high school level call a player a [lacrosse], or loser. I've never heard a coach tell a kid to quit or that they are fat and slow. I've seen plenty of parents on here post about the "lunatic coaches", but again I've never actually seen the coaches they routinely name do or say anything outrageous as claimed. The people making all the noise about lunatic coaches are parents who think that their little snowflake is a celebrity because Daddy is the CEO of Nabisco and should have special treatment. The crazy part is that in the end...it's the kid that they are hurting the most with their alt left, Dr. Spock non sense.

Eventually, they will be exposed to the real world. Learning those hard life lesson's for the first time in your 20's and beyond sucks.


Sorry buddy, ir just isn't alt left. Alt right is just as bad or maybe even worse. [/quote]
Have to agree about the alt left comment. It's as^holes like this individual that has to introduce a political comment into the discussion. No place for that in a youth lax discussion. No wonder this country is so divided, some find it necessary to link everything to politics. Simply dumb.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[/quote]

Not all of us parents are helicopter parents and are worried about our snowflake kids, yelling at a child and being verbally abusive are 2 very different things though!! I am fine with coaches yelling and holding my son accountable for his actions/playing, but calling kids f*cking idiots, pussies. telling them they suck and should just quit, calling them a loser, fat and slow, and having other teammates do these things is bullying and abusive behaviors.


OP here and I absolutely agree with you, but the fact is...I've never heard a rec or travel Coach at the youth, middle school or even high school level call a player a [lacrosse], or loser. I've never heard a coach tell a kid to quit or that they are fat and slow. I've seen plenty of parents on here post about the "lunatic coaches", but again I've never actually seen the coaches they routinely name do or say anything outrageous as claimed. The people making all the noise about lunatic coaches are parents who think that their little snowflake is a celebrity because Daddy is the CEO of Nabisco and should have special treatment. The crazy part is that in the end...it's the kid that they are hurting the most with their alt left, Dr. Spock non sense.

Eventually, they will be exposed to the real world. Learning those hard life lesson's for the first time in your 20's and beyond sucks.
[/quote]


Then you are very fortunate and you have never watched MM coach. He says all of that and worse. It is horrible for the kids, parents and the sport![/quote]

AMEN! Watched MM throwing his whiteboard like a frisbee at NLF, yelling F@#$ 10 times under his breath so loud you could hear it 30 yards away! Looked so angry he was literally spitting while yelling it, like he was going to kill one of his kids for losing a damn lacrosse game. I have seen 5 year olds with more composure during their temper tantrums. Hopefully he chills out this season since he has lost players and coaches over it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....


Crabs is still the best at putting together teams for recruiting visibility in high school. Not so good at working with developing elementary and middle schoolers.


You say that because those teams were already together before things started to fall apart. If you think kids are going to move to Crabs 2022 for high school you are nuts. That team is toxic and filled with soft kids that are catered to by the club. That is why kids left. Not just RM


I think the Crabs name in the high school recruiters minds will be very high for a long time. You forget that the college coaches do not follow each clubs ups and downs like us parents and locals do. They are aware of the best tournaments to see the best players and the Crabs will be at them. So when your son is in high school and he wants to play for a club at the best events you will take him to the Crabs. Year to year these teams rotate who has the best of the best kids/teams but the parents of great players playing for clubs not at the top events will show up to the crabs tryouts in high school.
Because when your son is a upcoming sophomore or Jr. you care very little about mean coaches and flat brim hats. You just want him playing in the best events with a shot to be seen by the most coaches. Who by the way do not care 1 cent about who wins or loses these games at the high school age.



"Mean Coaches"

Mommy and Daddy fully expect snowflake to just burn it up out there in MS. Then right into a Varsity slot as a Freshman in HS and of course a early pickup right into a top D1 program.

But all the while, nobody better yell at him or hold him accountable for his own mistakes, action's, in-actions, laziness, bad attitude etc.

I mean because we ALL know, HS coaches don't yell...Petro never yell's at the crew over on Charles Street.

You watch NFL training camp on the boob tube and none of those coaches EVER yell or hold any of those adult males accountable either.

Parent's need to pull their heads out of their asses, wake up and get a clue.

You should be seeking out coaches to yell at your kids and give them a swift kick in their @ss. It's called REAL LIFE.






Hey champ, yelling and encouraging your players to "break their arms" referring to opponents and also telling your players to "cross-check opponents hips" off-ball when the ref is not looking isn't teaching your "snowflake" a good life lesson. Its teaching them to be a complete @ss-Ole. Your statement is concerning. A good coach will push and teach your kid that hard work at practice and on their own is fun because it yields positive results on the field. He will point out those results and positively encourage your player to keep working harder to produce more results. Nobody said the coach couldn't yell. Its WHAT the coach yells that makes the difference!
yes, a very good hybrid version of box at Annapolis Area Christian School run by Spencer Ford and 3D lax.
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.
I really think the thing that everyone is forgetting is coaching is an extension of teaching. Would it ever be acceptable for a private school teacher ( I only use private school because that equates best to a coach because you pay for a service.) to talk to your child they way the coach does. As a referee, a previous coach and one who has been involved in the sport I have always said the athletic field is an extension of the classroom no matter what the team is. When kids talk back to me on the field and I penalize them I always follow it up with "would you talk to your parent or teacher like that" When a coach acts like a nut I always ask them a similar question.
People on this thread really need to put things into perspective form all sides.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Not all of us parents are helicopter parents and are worried about our snowflake kids, yelling at a child and being verbally abusive are 2 very different things though!! I am fine with coaches yelling and holding my son accountable for his actions/playing, but calling kids f*cking idiots, pussies. telling them they suck and should just quit, calling them a loser, fat and slow, and having other teammates do these things is bullying and abusive behaviors.


OP here and I absolutely agree with you, but the fact is...I've never heard a rec or travel Coach at the youth, middle school or even high school level call a player a [lacrosse], or loser. I've never heard a coach tell a kid to quit or that they are fat and slow. I've seen plenty of parents on here post about the "lunatic coaches", but again I've never actually seen the coaches they routinely name do or say anything outrageous as claimed. The people making all the noise about lunatic coaches are parents who think that their little snowflake is a celebrity because Daddy is the CEO of Nabisco and should have special treatment. The crazy part is that in the end...it's the kid that they are hurting the most with their alt left, Dr. Spock non sense.

Eventually, they will be exposed to the real world. Learning those hard life lesson's for the first time in your 20's and beyond sucks.
[/quote]


Then you are very fortunate and you have never watched MM coach. He says all of that and worse. It is horrible for the kids, parents and the sport![/quote]

AMEN! Watched MM throwing his whiteboard like a frisbee at NLF, yelling F@#$ 10 times under his breath so loud you could hear it 30 yards away! Looked so angry he was literally spitting while yelling it, like he was going to kill one of his kids for losing a damn lacrosse game. I have seen 5 year olds with more composure during their temper tantrums. Hopefully he chills out this season since he has lost players and coaches over it.[/quote]

Wow..MM is getting quite the reputation ! You would think that someone who makes a living off youth and HS lacrosse players would be a better role model for these same lacrosse players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I really think the thing that everyone is forgetting is coaching is an extension of teaching. Would it ever be acceptable for a private school teacher ( I only use private school because that equates best to a coach because you pay for a service.) to talk to your child they way the coach does. As a referee, a previous coach and one who has been involved in the sport I have always said the athletic field is an extension of the classroom no matter what the team is. When kids talk back to me on the field and I penalize them I always follow it up with "would you talk to your parent or teacher like that" When a coach acts like a nut I always ask them a similar question.
People on this thread really need to put things into perspective form all sides.



100% Correct! I only wish more coaches thought of it this way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Not all of us parents are helicopter parents and are worried about our snowflake kids, yelling at a child and being verbally abusive are 2 very different things though!! I am fine with coaches yelling and holding my son accountable for his actions/playing, but calling kids f*cking idiots, pussies. telling them they suck and should just quit, calling them a loser, fat and slow, and having other teammates do these things is bullying and abusive behaviors.


OP here and I absolutely agree with you, but the fact is...I've never heard a rec or travel Coach at the youth, middle school or even high school level call a player a [lacrosse], or loser. I've never heard a coach tell a kid to quit or that they are fat and slow. I've seen plenty of parents on here post about the "lunatic coaches", but again I've never actually seen the coaches they routinely name do or say anything outrageous as claimed. The people making all the noise about lunatic coaches are parents who think that their little snowflake is a celebrity because Daddy is the CEO of Nabisco and should have special treatment. The crazy part is that in the end...it's the kid that they are hurting the most with their alt left, Dr. Spock non sense.

Eventually, they will be exposed to the real world. Learning those hard life lesson's for the first time in your 20's and beyond sucks.



Then you are very fortunate and you have never watched MM coach. He says all of that and worse. It is horrible for the kids, parents and the sport![/quote]

AMEN! Watched MM throwing his whiteboard like a frisbee at NLF, yelling F@#$ 10 times under his breath so loud you could hear it 30 yards away! Looked so angry he was literally spitting while yelling it, like he was going to kill one of his kids for losing a damn lacrosse game. I have seen 5 year olds with more composure during their temper tantrums. Hopefully he chills out this season since he has lost players and coaches over it.[/quote]

Wow..MM is getting quite the reputation ! You would think that someone who makes a living off youth and HS lacrosse players would be a better role model for these same lacrosse players.
[/quote]

Right, like the Madlax guy.
Nobody is worse than the Madras guy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.



Please , the last thing we need is to get API dads back on here with their excuses and hatred towards every other club. Everyone hopes that they have a solid team lined up so the negative daddies can't come on here crying the blues when they get beat.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Not all of us parents are helicopter parents and are worried about our snowflake kids, yelling at a child and being verbally abusive are 2 very different things though!! I am fine with coaches yelling and holding my son accountable for his actions/playing, but calling kids f*cking idiots, pussies. telling them they suck and should just quit, calling them a loser, fat and slow, and having other teammates do these things is bullying and abusive behaviors.


OP here and I absolutely agree with you, but the fact is...I've never heard a rec or travel Coach at the youth, middle school or even high school level call a player a [lacrosse], or loser. I've never heard a coach tell a kid to quit or that they are fat and slow. I've seen plenty of parents on here post about the "lunatic coaches", but again I've never actually seen the coaches they routinely name do or say anything outrageous as claimed. The people making all the noise about lunatic coaches are parents who think that their little snowflake is a celebrity because Daddy is the CEO of Nabisco and should have special treatment. The crazy part is that in the end...it's the kid that they are hurting the most with their alt left, Dr. Spock non sense.

Eventually, they will be exposed to the real world. Learning those hard life lesson's for the first time in your 20's and beyond sucks.



Then you are very fortunate and you have never watched MM coach. He says all of that and worse. It is horrible for the kids, parents and the sport![/quote]

AMEN! Watched MM throwing his whiteboard like a frisbee at NLF, yelling F@#$ 10 times under his breath so loud you could hear it 30 yards away! Looked so angry he was literally spitting while yelling it, like he was going to kill one of his kids for losing a damn lacrosse game. I have seen 5 year olds with more composure during their temper tantrums. Hopefully he chills out this season since he has lost players and coaches over it.[/quote]

Wow..MM is getting quite the reputation ! You would think that someone who makes a living off youth and HS lacrosse players would be a better role model for these same lacrosse players.
[/quote]

MM just can't handle in game situations and doesn't know how to himself on a sideline.He has been teaching your lacrosse for over 20 years to hundreds of kids and makes a living doing so. The moment he steps into a live game he can't control his temper.
Read Coach Wooden's book on coaching.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any good box lacrosse programs anywhere in Maryland? I can't seem to find one on line.



The best Box league is the Goals Baltimore League in Catonsville.

Next Level runs a pretty good one in Rockville also. It is more like a bunch of pickup games than a real league.

Madlax runs one out of Dulles but it is mostly B teams.

It would be awesome if Nercc in Parkville could get something going on their multiple regulation indoor box fields.

DuBurns and Resisterstown Sportsplex have great single fields but have don't have strong leagues.

Myers pavilion has a really good box league for high school kids that Crabs and Rock were in last year.

There are a couple outdoor/indoor leagues with nets instead of boards at with MMILL at SoccerStop in Columbia and API may have a league.

Fisc in Frederick also has incredible multiple regulation box fields and has a league. Check the LaxFaxtory site.


3D runs a pretty good indoor league for high schoolers in Annapolis . It is not real Box and has nets instead of boards.



There is no real Box anywhere in Maryland ... its all indoor field lacrosse. Its time to start real box in Baltimore!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any good box lacrosse programs anywhere in Maryland? I can't seem to find one on line.



The best Box league is the Goals Baltimore League in Catonsville.

Next Level runs a pretty good one in Rockville also. It is more like a bunch of pickup games than a real league.

Madlax runs one out of Dulles but it is mostly B teams.

It would be awesome if Nercc in Parkville could get something going on their multiple regulation indoor box fields.

DuBurns and Resisterstown Sportsplex have great single fields but have don't have strong leagues.

Myers pavilion has a really good box league for high school kids that Crabs and Rock were in last year.

There are a couple outdoor/indoor leagues with nets instead of boards at with MMILL at SoccerStop in Columbia and API may have a league.

Fisc in Frederick also has incredible multiple regulation box fields and has a league. Check the LaxFaxtory site.


3D runs a pretty good indoor league for high schoolers in Annapolis . It is not real Box and has nets instead of boards.



There is no real Box anywhere in Maryland ... its all indoor field lacrosse. Its time to start real box in Baltimore!!



What about Goals, Madlax, Next Level, Fisc, and Myers Pavilion makes it not real Box?

They have the boards, small goals, and huge goalie pads.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any good box lacrosse programs anywhere in Maryland? I can't seem to find one on line.



The best Box league is the Goals Baltimore League in Catonsville.

Next Level runs a pretty good one in Rockville also. It is more like a bunch of pickup games than a real league.

Madlax runs one out of Dulles but it is mostly B teams.

It would be awesome if Nercc in Parkville could get something going on their multiple regulation indoor box fields.

DuBurns and Resisterstown Sportsplex have great single fields but have don't have strong leagues.

Myers pavilion has a really good box league for high school kids that Crabs and Rock were in last year.

There are a couple outdoor/indoor leagues with nets instead of boards at with MMILL at SoccerStop in Columbia and API may have a league.

Fisc in Frederick also has incredible multiple regulation box fields and has a league. Check the LaxFaxtory site.


3D runs a pretty good indoor league for high schoolers in Annapolis . It is not real Box and has nets instead of boards.



There is no real Box anywhere in Maryland ... its all indoor field lacrosse. Its time to start real box in Baltimore!!


The goals league is pretty solid. boards, small goals, goalie gear, shot clock. 5v5 no off-sides. 2 doors for each box. not sure how real you're looking for -- cross checks and fighting?
With Tryouts finishing up for many NOVA teams looks like ranking may change some:

1. Mad Lax Capital
2. Evergreen
3. VLC
4. Cavalier
5. Top Caliber
6. Mad Lax DMV
Club Blue and DC Express should not count as Northern Virginia teams as they do not pull any VA kids mostly Bethesda/Mont. County. Maybe these teams will matchup at fall tournaments
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With Tryouts finishing up for many NOVA teams looks like ranking may change some:

1. Mad Lax Capital
2. Evergreen
3. VLC
4. Cavalier
5. Top Caliber
6. Mad Lax DMV
Club Blue and DC Express should not count as Northern Virginia teams as they do not pull any VA kids mostly Bethesda/Mont. County. Maybe these teams will matchup at fall tournaments



Evergreen #2? They are a relatively new club, have they come on that strong? If so, that's good the hear.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With Tryouts finishing up for many NOVA teams looks like ranking may change some:

1. Mad Lax Capital
2. Evergreen
3. VLC
4. Cavalier
5. Top Caliber
6. Mad Lax DMV
Club Blue and DC Express should not count as Northern Virginia teams as they do not pull any VA kids mostly Bethesda/Mont. County. Maybe these teams will matchup at fall tournaments


who cares? other than Madlax all B and C teams
club blue is having a nova team. and where would 3d be
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.



Please , the last thing we need is to get API dads back on here with their excuses and hatred towards every other club. Everyone hopes that they have a solid team lined up so the negative daddies can't come on here crying the blues when they get beat.


They all on the same team now. Should make for some great pictures.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
club blue is having a nova team. and where would 3d be



Evergreen was able to get Dylan Maltz (MD part of RUN DMC) to coach 2022 and recruited basically the entire 3d team plus added talent from Cavalier and top Loudoun players. Club Blue NOVA is brand new so hard to rank. Some had asked if 3d would move to Elite from AA after winning AA last spring these players are all now on Evergreen.
Sounds like 3D folded and both 21's and 22's are no longer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any good box lacrosse programs anywhere in Maryland? I can't seem to find one on line.



The best Box league is the Goals Baltimore League in Catonsville.

Next Level runs a pretty good one in Rockville also. It is more like a bunch of pickup games than a real league.

Madlax runs one out of Dulles but it is mostly B teams.

It would be awesome if Nercc in Parkville could get something going on their multiple regulation indoor box fields.

DuBurns and Resisterstown Sportsplex have great single fields but have don't have strong leagues.

Myers pavilion has a really good box league for high school kids that Crabs and Rock were in last year.

There are a couple outdoor/indoor leagues with nets instead of boards at with MMILL at SoccerStop in Columbia and API may have a league.

Fisc in Frederick also has incredible multiple regulation box fields and has a league. Check the LaxFaxtory site.


3D runs a pretty good indoor league for high schoolers in Annapolis . It is not real Box and has nets instead of boards.



There is no real Box anywhere in Maryland ... its all indoor field lacrosse. Its time to start real box in Baltimore!!


As usual, most of the people who speak on here know absolutely nothing...

The GOALS league is real box lacrosse.

And Lax Factory runs a USBOXLA program during the winter. League and travel teams. Certified box officials and everything.

MADLAX "kind of" runs a box league and tournament. They do use small goals and padded goalies, it is 5-on-5, and their rules resemble box lacrosse. But their officials have no idea how to actually run a box game. Same with Next Level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like 3D folded and both 21's and 22's are no longer.

Looks like 3d still has 2021 and 2020 along with 2023-2026 I just think the 2022 flocked over to another team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like 3D folded and both 21's and 22's are no longer.

Looks like 3d still has 2021 and 2020 along with 2023-2026 I just think the 2022 flocked over to another team.


2022 had some great high visibility coaches at 3D. Very surprised they folded.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.


We would really like for the Hawks goalie who got cut to come to
ApI tryouts. No holdbacks here to take your spot and we value stability, loyalty, and continuity
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any good box lacrosse programs anywhere in Maryland? I can't seem to find one on line.



The best Box league is the Goals Baltimore League in Catonsville.

Next Level runs a pretty good one in Rockville also. It is more like a bunch of pickup games than a real league.

Madlax runs one out of Dulles but it is mostly B teams.

It would be awesome if Nercc in Parkville could get something going on their multiple regulation indoor box fields.

DuBurns and Resisterstown Sportsplex have great single fields but have don't have strong leagues.

Myers pavilion has a really good box league for high school kids that Crabs and Rock were in last year.

There are a couple outdoor/indoor leagues with nets instead of boards at with MMILL at SoccerStop in Columbia and API may have a league.

Fisc in Frederick also has incredible multiple regulation box fields and has a league. Check the LaxFaxtory site.


3D runs a pretty good indoor league for high schoolers in Annapolis . It is not real Box and has nets instead of boards.



There is no real Box anywhere in Maryland ... its all indoor field lacrosse. Its time to start real box in Baltimore!!


As usual, most of the people who speak on here know absolutely nothing...

The GOALS league is real box lacrosse.

And Lax Factory runs a USBOXLA program during the winter. League and travel teams. Certified box officials and everything.

MADLAX "kind of" runs a box league and tournament. They do use small goals and padded goalies, it is 5-on-5, and their rules resemble box lacrosse. But their officials have no idea how to actually run a box game. Same with Next Level.



Have you watched.. the kids in that league do NOT play box. they play field inside... No-one down here knows how to play box...

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.


We would really like for the Hawks goalie who got cut to come to
ApI tryouts. No holdbacks here to take your spot and we value stability, loyalty, and continuity


So much for the 2 goalies you all ready have loyalty.....smh
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With Tryouts finishing up for many NOVA teams looks like ranking may change some:

1. Mad Lax Capital
2. Evergreen
3. VLC
4. Cavalier
5. Top Caliber
6. Mad Lax DMV
Club Blue and DC Express should not count as Northern Virginia teams as they do not pull any VA kids mostly Bethesda/Mont. County. Maybe these teams will matchup at fall tournaments



Evergreen #2? They are a relatively new club, have they come on that strong? If so, that's good the hear.


Evergreen? Lol. They look up to everyone.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like 3D folded and both 21's and 22's are no longer.

Looks like 3d still has 2021 and 2020 along with 2023-2026 I just think the 2022 flocked over to another team.


No. 3d folded their 2019 and 2021 teams. They only have 1 HD team.
Api
Loyalty that is a joke .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.


We would really like for the Hawks goalie who got cut to come to
ApI tryouts. No holdbacks here to take your spot and we value stability, loyalty, and continuity


No thanks. Don't need Hawks rejects. He couldn't have lost his spot to a holdback because according to Hawk parents they don't have holdbacks. Hysterical.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any good box lacrosse programs anywhere in Maryland? I can't seem to find one on line.



The best Box league is the Goals Baltimore League in Catonsville.

Next Level runs a pretty good one in Rockville also. It is more like a bunch of pickup games than a real league.

Madlax runs one out of Dulles but it is mostly B teams.

It would be awesome if Nercc in Parkville could get something going on their multiple regulation indoor box fields.

DuBurns and Resisterstown Sportsplex have great single fields but have don't have strong leagues.

Myers pavilion has a really good box league for high school kids that Crabs and Rock were in last year.

There are a couple outdoor/indoor leagues with nets instead of boards at with MMILL at SoccerStop in Columbia and API may have a league.

Fisc in Frederick also has incredible multiple regulation box fields and has a league. Check the LaxFaxtory site.


3D runs a pretty good indoor league for high schoolers in Annapolis . It is not real Box and has nets instead of boards.



There is no real Box anywhere in Maryland ... its all indoor field lacrosse. Its time to start real box in Baltimore!!


As usual, most of the people who speak on here know absolutely nothing...

The GOALS league is real box lacrosse.

And Lax Factory runs a USBOXLA program during the winter. League and travel teams. Certified box officials and everything.

MADLAX "kind of" runs a box league and tournament. They do use small goals and padded goalies, it is 5-on-5, and their rules resemble box lacrosse. But their officials have no idea how to actually run a box game. Same with Next Level.



Have you watched.. the kids in that league do NOT play box. they play field inside... No-one down here knows how to play box...



Gotcha , you are saying they play by the rules of Box lacrosse with box lacrosse gear but it's not Box lacrosse because they have only been playing it for 3 years.

Or did I miss something?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like 3D folded and both 21's and 22's are no longer.

Looks like 3d still has 2021 and 2020 along with 2023-2026 I just think the 2022 flocked over to another team.


2022 had some great high visibility coaches at 3D. Very surprised they folded.


Actually they didnt have any legitimate coaching...that was the problem and that's why they didn't list any of their actual coaches for that team on their website.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.


We would really like for the Hawks goalie who got cut to come to
ApI tryouts. No holdbacks here to take your spot and we value stability, loyalty, and continuity


No thanks. Don't need Hawks rejects. He couldn't have lost his spot to a holdback because according to Hawk parents they don't have holdbacks. Hysterical.


Every Hawk parent I've ever spoken to readily admits they have 3 or 4 kids older than the 9/1 cutoff for schools.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.


We would really like for the Hawks goalie who got cut to come to
ApI tryouts. No holdbacks here to take your spot and we value stability, loyalty, and continuity


No thanks. Don't need Hawks rejects. He couldn't have lost his spot to a holdback because according to Hawk parents they don't have holdbacks. Hysterical.


Every Hawk parent I've ever spoken to readily admits they have 3 or 4 kids older than the 9/1 cutoff for schools.




That's hilarious. And the US Navy says our ballistic missile submarines can only go 700 ft under water. You only admit what you have to.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.


We would really like for the Hawks goalie who got cut to come to
ApI tryouts. No holdbacks here to take your spot and we value stability, loyalty, and continuity


No thanks. Don't need Hawks rejects. He couldn't have lost his spot to a holdback because according to Hawk parents they don't have holdbacks. Hysterical. [/q

Hey you ignorant jerk, stop talking about specific kids. Have some class.


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anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.


We would really like for the Hawks goalie who got cut to come to
ApI tryouts. No holdbacks here to take your spot and we value stability, loyalty, and continuity


No thanks. Don't need Hawks rejects. He couldn't have lost his spot to a holdback because according to Hawk parents they don't have holdbacks. Hysterical.


Every Hawk parent I've ever spoken to readily admits they have 3 or 4 kids older than the 9/1 cutoff for schools.





Lol, I would admit to 3 or 4 too if I had 8-10 and added 4 more. Can't wait until next year to see how many Hawks drop to 2023 and become double holdbacks
#10-4
#3 ranked
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.


We would really like for the Hawks goalie who got cut to come to
ApI tryouts. No holdbacks here to take your spot and we value stability, loyalty, and continuity


No thanks. Don't need Hawks rejects. He couldn't have lost his spot to a holdback because according to Hawk parents they don't have holdbacks. Hysterical.


Every Hawk parent I've ever spoken to readily admits they have 3 or 4 kids older than the 9/1 cutoff for schools.





Lol, I would admit to 3 or 4 too if I had 8-10 and added 4 more. Can't wait until next year to see how many Hawks drop to 2023 and become double holdbacks
#10-4
#3 ranked


The Hawks have no problem admitting they are following the rules. 4 kids is it. Find another excuse for losing.




What are all of the parents who are whining now about holdbacks going to do when their 9th grader goes out for lacrosse? Hey that boy has tall parents or coach its not fair, that boy runs a 4.6 40 and is making my son look foolish out there. Here's a quick suggestion: Buy shares in sideline swap because you're going to be using it a ton.......
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.


We would really like for the Hawks goalie who got cut to come to
ApI tryouts. No holdbacks here to take your spot and we value stability, loyalty, and continuity


No thanks. Don't need Hawks rejects. He couldn't have lost his spot to a holdback because according to Hawk parents they don't have holdbacks. Hysterical.


Every Hawk parent I've ever spoken to readily admits they have 3 or 4 kids older than the 9/1 cutoff for schools.





Lol, I would admit to 3 or 4 too if I had 8-10 and added 4 more. Can't wait until next year to see how many Hawks drop to 2023 and become double holdbacks
#10-4
#3 ranked



It was only a matter of time before the sore loser came out of his hole. Congrats on the 10-4 win this year, where not 1 API player contributed to that win. Again, if any Hawk, RR,Crab,BLC and MM decide to play on Dukes your kid would not have a roster spot. That is a fact . Congrats on the #3 ranking no one can take that from you (Dad) but your kid knows who they beat last year and who they lost to as do your coaches. New coach is very good and hopefully can control the jerk off loser daddies on the sideline.
We all look forward to seeing how many holdbacks will be fielded for API this year. Not that anyone really cares but for the sake of your relentless crying on this site .
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.


We would really like for the Hawks goalie who got cut to come to
ApI tryouts. No holdbacks here to take your spot and we value stability, loyalty, and continuity


No thanks. Don't need Hawks rejects. He couldn't have lost his spot to a holdback because according to Hawk parents they don't have holdbacks. Hysterical.


Every Hawk parent I've ever spoken to readily admits they have 3 or 4 kids older than the 9/1 cutoff for schools.





Lol, I would admit to 3 or 4 too if I had 8-10 and added 4 more. Can't wait until next year to see how many Hawks drop to 2023 and become double holdbacks
#10-4
#3 ranked



#3 in the world, #8 in Hoco - Funny how that works.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any good box lacrosse programs anywhere in Maryland? I can't seem to find one on line.



The best Box league is the Goals Baltimore League in Catonsville.

Next Level runs a pretty good one in Rockville also. It is more like a bunch of pickup games than a real league.

Madlax runs one out of Dulles but it is mostly B teams.

It would be awesome if Nercc in Parkville could get something going on their multiple regulation indoor box fields.

DuBurns and Resisterstown Sportsplex have great single fields but have don't have strong leagues.

Myers pavilion has a really good box league for high school kids that Crabs and Rock were in last year.

There are a couple outdoor/indoor leagues with nets instead of boards at with MMILL at SoccerStop in Columbia and API may have a league.

Fisc in Frederick also has incredible multiple regulation box fields and has a league. Check the LaxFaxtory site.


3D runs a pretty good indoor league for high schoolers in Annapolis . It is not real Box and has nets instead of boards.



There is no real Box anywhere in Maryland ... its all indoor field lacrosse. Its time to start real box in Baltimore!!


As usual, most of the people who speak on here know absolutely nothing...

The GOALS league is real box lacrosse.

And Lax Factory runs a USBOXLA program during the winter. League and travel teams. Certified box officials and everything.

MADLAX "kind of" runs a box league and tournament. They do use small goals and padded goalies, it is 5-on-5, and their rules resemble box lacrosse. But their officials have no idea how to actually run a box game. Same with Next Level.



Have you watched.. the kids in that league do NOT play box. they play field inside... No-one down here knows how to play box...


Actually, I have watched games in all of these leagues. The question is what do you think "real box" is?

Because I see moving screens, lots of off-ball movement, lots of picks, legal (in box) cross-checking, playing balls off the boards, etc. It's not fighting or big take-out checks and all that, because all of that is against the rules.

Around here, box is a means to an end. And that end is better field players. So they'll never be great at it around here like Canada.
Dukes Nationals 2022 are the undisputed #1 Elite Team. Other DN will be there too.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.


We would really like for the Hawks goalie who got cut to come to
ApI tryouts. No holdbacks here to take your spot and we value stability, loyalty, and continuity


No thanks. Don't need Hawks rejects. He couldn't have lost his spot to a holdback because according to Hawk parents they don't have holdbacks. Hysterical.


Every Hawk parent I've ever spoken to readily admits they have 3 or 4 kids older than the 9/1 cutoff for schools.





Lol, I would admit to 3 or 4 too if I had 8-10 and added 4 more. Can't wait until next year to see how many Hawks drop to 2023 and become double holdbacks
#10-4
#3 ranked



#3 in the world, #8 in Hoco - Funny how that works.





Now that was funny
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone going to API diamondbacks final tyrout this Sunday? sounds like they have solid teams lined up.


We would really like for the Hawks goalie who got cut to come to
ApI tryouts. No holdbacks here to take your spot and we value stability, loyalty, and continuity


No thanks. Don't need Hawks rejects. He couldn't have lost his spot to a holdback because according to Hawk parents they don't have holdbacks. Hysterical.


Every Hawk parent I've ever spoken to readily admits they have 3 or 4 kids older than the 9/1 cutoff for schools.





Lol, I would admit to 3 or 4 too if I had 8-10 and added 4 more. Can't wait until next year to see how many Hawks drop to 2023 and become double holdbacks
#10-4
#3 ranked



#3 in the world, #8 in Hoco - Funny how that works.





Now that was funny
So 3d lost their 2019, 2021 and 2022 teams? Is that correct?
what will be the first tournament that people play in
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what will be the first tournament that people play in


Toomey's Battle on the Bay is again the top fall tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dukes Nationals 2022 are the undisputed #1 Elite Team. Other DN will be there too.


Correct - depending on the line up for that week. When the all stars and fingers can all make it, they are the best.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api
Loyalty that is a joke .


Loyalty is easy if you really develop talent. If the kids developed by other clubs at tryouts are better, loyalty is hard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
what will be the first tournament that people play in


Not many choices for fall tournaments. Most are just very expensive play days. Skip any event that does not have a playoff.
The nova teams are done with tryouts whose tryouts were well attended whose weren't
The Hawks cuts were at API tryouts today telling anyone who would listen about the Hawks BS. I would rather lose to them 100 straight times than deal with that nonsense.
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The Hawks cuts were at API tryouts today telling anyone who would listen about the Hawks BS. I would rather lose to them 100 straight times than deal with that nonsense.


Rather tryout for a 100 different teams than api.
I wish the BOTC administrator would start a Hawks/API thread so the sh$tbird Dads from these clubs can go over there to get their daily therapy of talking nonsense about each other.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks cuts were at API tryouts today telling anyone who would listen about the Hawks BS. I would rather lose to them 100 straight times than deal with that nonsense.


Sounds like fake news. If there was "Hawks BS" being spread you would not hesitate to say what it was. Good try though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wish the BOTC administrator would start a Hawks/API thread so the sh$tbird Dads from these clubs can go over there to get their daily therapy of talking nonsense about each other.

I wish they would just man up, state their names and exchange phone numbers. Then they could text each other all the live long day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks cuts were at API tryouts today telling anyone who would listen about the Hawks BS. I would rather lose to them 100 straight times than deal with that nonsense.


Sounds like fake news. If there was "Hawks BS" being spread you would not hesitate to say what it was. Good try though.


Yes, please share the BS. My son would like to tryout next year. Could get there this year.
Rhetorical Question.

If the players at API tryouts had made the Hawks do you think the alleged BS would have been perceived differently?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks cuts were at API tryouts today telling anyone who would listen about the Hawks BS. I would rather lose to them 100 straight times than deal with that nonsense.


Sounds like fake news. If there was "Hawks BS" being spread you would not hesitate to say what it was. Good try though.


The BS is that Hawks said they were going to have B teams for most ages and then didn't. Kids already disappointed they didn't make the A teams are even more annoyed that their backup team fell through and now have to scramble for a spot with a different club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks cuts were at API tryouts today telling anyone who would listen about the Hawks BS. I would rather lose to them 100 straight times than deal with that nonsense.


Sounds like fake news. If there was "Hawks BS" being spread you would not hesitate to say what it was. Good try though.


The BS is that Hawks said they were going to have B teams for most ages and then didn't. Kids already disappointed they didn't make the A teams are even more annoyed that their backup team fell through and now have to scramble for a spot with a different club.


I thought API was the Hawks B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks cuts were at API tryouts today telling anyone who would listen about the Hawks BS. I would rather lose to them 100 straight times than deal with that nonsense.


Sounds like fake news. If there was "Hawks BS" being spread you would not hesitate to say what it was. Good try though.


The BS is that Hawks said they were going to have B teams for most ages and then didn't. Kids already disappointed they didn't make the A teams are even more annoyed that their backup team fell through and now have to scramble for a spot with a different club.


I thought API was the Hawks B team.


API, Sidewinders, PLC, South River, and so on..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks cuts were at API tryouts today telling anyone who would listen about the Hawks BS. I would rather lose to them 100 straight times than deal with that nonsense.


Sounds like fake news. If there was "Hawks BS" being spread you would not hesitate to say what it was. Good try though.


The BS is that Hawks said they were going to have B teams for most ages and then didn't. Kids already disappointed they didn't make the A teams are even more annoyed that their backup team fell through and now have to scramble for a spot with a different club.



If there had been enough players, there would have been green and black teams, there weren't enough players to fill two teams. How is that the organizations fault.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks cuts were at API tryouts today telling anyone who would listen about the Hawks BS. I would rather lose to them 100 straight times than deal with that nonsense.


Sounds like fake news. If there was "Hawks BS" being spread you would not hesitate to say what it was. Good try though.


The BS is that Hawks said they were going to have B teams for most ages and then didn't. Kids already disappointed they didn't make the A teams are even more annoyed that their backup team fell through and now have to scramble for a spot with a different club.


I thought API was the Hawks B team.




^^^^^^^^ Again that was funny. All clubs would love to have 2 teams at every age group and would if they could. If the numbers are not there after invites are sent out then obviously they will not be able to field 2 teams. All parents and players know this from their invite and had a CHOICE to wait a day or 2 to see if the numbers came back good or not good. Same process for every club that gets the right amount of numbers during registration which then in turn suggests the possibility of 2 teams. Where is the BS in that? Sounds like they did the right thing by not trying to piece together 2 teams.Its not like they purposely screwed over kids , they could of easily took parents money and fees and made much more money but they did the right thing.
If your kid did not have a good try out and got cut than he should feel disappointed. It happens every year at every tryout at every level . He knows that he now has to settle for playing for API and listen to the crap that API dads spew all year long.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks cuts were at API tryouts today telling anyone who would listen about the Hawks BS. I would rather lose to them 100 straight times than deal with that nonsense.


Sounds like fake news. If there was "Hawks BS" being spread you would not hesitate to say what it was. Good try though.


The BS is that Hawks said they were going to have B teams for most ages and then didn't. Kids already disappointed they didn't make the A teams are even more annoyed that their backup team fell through and now have to scramble for a spot with a different club.



What age group 2022? Are you saying Hawk players from last year or players trying out for the Hawks ?
VLC won't be good. 3d doesn't have a team. Madlax Capital will be good. Club blue will be in the middle not the best but pretty good.
Evergreen will be far better than VLC or Club Blue but still not at Madlax Capital's level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be far better than VLC or Club Blue but still not at Madlax Capital's level.


Evergreen parents are crazy. That club sucks.
Evergreen will be awesome.
And none will be as good as DC Express.
supposedly their 2022s will be good with all the 3d kids
No club is going to become great with 3d kids. Have you even seen their teams?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
supposedly their 2022s will be good with all the 3d kids


Did you ever see the 2022 3d team play? Why would any new team be good by adding a bunch of B level players from 3d?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
supposedly their 2022s will be good with all the 3d kids


Did you ever see the 2022 3d team play? Why would any new team be good by adding a bunch of B level players from 3d?



This team won the HOCO league AA div
Massive difference between the AA and Elite divisions. The year prior they played in AA against the Elite teams and didn't win a game.
Does anyone know if club blue is going to be good or did they lose people
VLC 2022s got demolished last year in 2nd tier hoco but they might be picking up people
Exactly, 50% 3d + 30% Cavs + 20% Other kids does not mean Elite 2022 contender. They may or may not be solid in AA but will be better than the other Evergreen youth teams. And Evergreen 2022 will likely be better than Cavs 2022 and VLC 2022 (VLC was combined 22/23 last year). Did you see Cavs now have their own fields in Leesburg?
I heard the ex Hawks are coming to API. So I guess the nonsense on here will continue? Just the idiot parents will be on different sides.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
supposedly their 2022s will be good with all the 3d kids


Did you ever see the 2022 3d team play? Why would any new team be good by adding a bunch of B level players from 3d?



This team won the HOCO league AA div


That would be impressive if there wasn't a whole division of better teams in the Elite division. As I said, B team players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly, 50% 3d + 30% Cavs + 20% Other kids does not mean Elite 2022 contender. They may or may not be solid in AA but will be better than the other Evergreen youth teams. And Evergreen 2022 will likely be better than Cavs 2022 and VLC 2022 (VLC was combined 22/23 last year). Did you see Cavs now have their own fields in Leesburg?


I know that VLC 2022 team was 50% 2023 kids. If they are a full 2022 team now, they MAY be a lot better. I wouldn't bet the farm that Evergreen 2022 would be good - think about how bad that club is.

As for Cavalier having their own field now, who cares? How does that may them necessarily better?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly, 50% 3d + 30% Cavs + 20% Other kids does not mean Elite 2022 contender. They may or may not be solid in AA but will be better than the other Evergreen youth teams. And Evergreen 2022 will likely be better than Cavs 2022 and VLC 2022 (VLC was combined 22/23 last year). Did you see Cavs now have their own fields in Leesburg?


I know that VLC 2022 team was 50% 2023 kids. If they are a full 2022 team now, they MAY be a lot better. I wouldn't bet the farm that Evergreen 2022 would be good - think about how bad that club is.

As for Cavalier having their own field now, who cares? How does that may them necessarily better?


Doesn't evergreen have their own indoor training facility? Like API?


They are affiliated with that facility, but I think it's just outdoor fields. That's great, but if they are touting having access to turf fields, I'm pretty sure every other club practices on a turf field.

It probably is an attractive option to the parents who live near there, but I hear all the teams are terrible.
How many players from BLC went to DC Express? Hearing DCE could be really good this year.
Elite Division for the 2017-18 season ??

BLC Crabs DC Express FCA Hawks Koopers
Madlax MD91 Rough Riders
DC Express picked up several crab starters too
Did the BLC team become the Express? That is what it looked like at the tryouts?

Preseason Ranking

Hawks
Express
Koopers
RR
FCA
91
Madlax
BLC

I watched 4 out of the 8 tryouts. Did not see a couple of the MD teams going off last year and post on the site.

This will all change as the games are played but this will be a very competitive league.
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the BLC team become the Express? That is what it looked like at the tryouts?

Preseason Ranking

Hawks
Express
Koopers
RR
FCA
91
Madlax
BLC

I watched 4 out of the 8 tryouts. Did not see a couple of the MD teams going off last year and post on the site.

This will all change as the games are played but this will be a very competitive league.


This list is obviously wrong, API is #3 in the world and you don't have them listed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the BLC team become the Express? That is what it looked like at the tryouts?

Preseason Ranking

Hawks
Express
Koopers
RR
FCA
91
Madlax
BLC

I watched 4 out of the 8 tryouts. Did not see a couple of the MD teams going off last year and post on the site.

This will all change as the games are played but this will be a very competitive league.


Where is Crabs and API?
DCE is a joint venture with BLC. BLC ends 7th grade and DCE starts 8th grade.

DCE 2022 is stacked. Best BLC kids from last year and 8 new boys from other clubs
DCE 2022 added top kids from club blue - next level- Madlax - and crabs to the top kids at BLC who played 2022 last year and cut several blc 22's - fair process
HOCO LEAGUE

-Koopers
-Hawks
-Express/BLC
-RR
-91
-FCA
-Madlax
-API/National Rank #3
-Crabs
(not sure of any others playing in Elite)

BEST LEAGUE IN THE COUNTRY

Duke Nationals in mix during summer tournaments
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DCE 2022 added top kids from club blue - next level- Madlax - and crabs to the top kids at BLC who played 2022 last year and cut several blc 22's - fair process


This team will win Hoco going away. A great team for sure and the number of holdbacks on this squad is staggering. Basically a freshman high school team.

The "B" team is also loaded with holdbacks and they will be very good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DCE 2022 added top kids from club blue - next level- Madlax - and crabs to the top kids at BLC who played 2022 last year and cut several blc 22's - fair process


This team will win Hoco going away. A great team for sure and the number of holdbacks on this squad is staggering. Basically a freshman high school team.

The "B" team is also loaded with holdbacks and they will be very good.


LOL.....give me a break Dad!! or is this Ray? Bobby?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO LEAGUE

-Koopers
-Hawks
-Express/BLC
-RR
-91
-FCA
-Madlax
-API/National Rank #3
-Crabs
(not sure of any others playing in Elite)

BEST LEAGUE IN THE COUNTRY

Duke Nationals in mix during summer tournaments


Crab's at the bottom....really?
There is no way the 2022 Crabs end up in last place. Their 2022 coaching staff has been coaching varsity level club teams successfully for approx. 15 years. Are enough of the Koopers 2021 players from last year dropping down (or playing within their correct grade) to make them worthy of a #1 preseason ranking? To win, you'll need 12-16 elite level players including a very strong FOGO and keeper or two.
Crabs lost 4 or 5 of their top players from a team that finished middle of pack last year. So probably accurate to predict a step down.
I find it amazing that the elite teams are mainly elite due to holdbacks,,
This is exactly how youth sports was meant to be.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO LEAGUE

-Koopers
-Hawks
-Express/BLC
-RR
-91
-FCA
-Madlax
-API/National Rank #3
-Crabs
(not sure of any others playing in Elite)

BEST LEAGUE IN THE COUNTRY

Duke Nationals in mix during summer tournaments


hoco won't allow api to play in the elite division this year. its generally invite only at this age and api was bad last year, and they lost players this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs lost 4 or 5 of their top players from a team that finished middle of pack last year. So probably accurate to predict a step down.


Correct. They only won 2 games last year and one of those was against Next Level who won't be in Elite division this year. They lost some of their better players to Hawks, DCE and Koopers. RM seems to pick his schedule as they have never played Hawks in HOCO but there are no easy games this year. They will be lucky to win a game in HOCO.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO LEAGUE

-Koopers
-Hawks
-Express/BLC
-RR
-91
-FCA
-Madlax
-API/National Rank #3
-Crabs
(not sure of any others playing in Elite)

BEST LEAGUE IN THE COUNTRY

Duke Nationals in mix during summer tournaments


Crab's at the bottom....really?



Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find it amazing that the elite teams are mainly elite due to holdbacks,,
This is exactly how youth sports was meant to be.



Is it really that amazing to you? It is exactly how this Elite division is and it's not changing for any daddies whose kid did not make a team that plays it .It has not changed in years for the rising 8th graders. Every single team in this division will have at least 1 holdback for many different reasons. Every parent,player, coach and team all know this and will sign up just the same. HOCO has 5 other divisions to play in for those that don't like the current format.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO LEAGUE

-Koopers
-Hawks
-Express/BLC
-RR
-91
-FCA
-Madlax
-API/National Rank #3
-Crabs
(not sure of any others playing in Elite)

BEST LEAGUE IN THE COUNTRY

Duke Nationals in mix during summer tournaments


Crab's at the bottom....really?



Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find it amazing that the elite teams are mainly elite due to holdbacks,,
This is exactly how youth sports was meant to be.



Is it really that amazing to you? It is exactly how this Elite division is and it's not changing for any daddies whose kid did not make a team that plays it .It has not changed in years for the rising 8th graders. Every single team in this division will have at least 1 holdback for many different reasons. Every parent,player, coach and team all know this and will sign up just the same. HOCO has 5 other divisions to play in for those that don't like the current format.


That's funny. Do you honestly think that teams in the AA division don't have holdbacks too? Looneys may have more than anyone at this grade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO LEAGUE

-Koopers
-Hawks
-Express/BLC
-RR
-91
-FCA
-Madlax
-API/National Rank #3
-Crabs
(not sure of any others playing in Elite)

BEST LEAGUE IN THE COUNTRY

Duke Nationals in mix during summer tournaments


Crab's at the bottom....really?



Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find it amazing that the elite teams are mainly elite due to holdbacks,,
This is exactly how youth sports was meant to be.



Is it really that amazing to you? It is exactly how this Elite division is and it's not changing for any daddies whose kid did not make a team that plays it .It has not changed in years for the rising 8th graders. Every single team in this division will have at least 1 holdback for many different reasons. Every parent,player, coach and team all know this and will sign up just the same. HOCO has 5 other divisions to play in for those that don't like the current format.



Whats so elite about playing against kids that are younger than you are? Better name would be Holdback/prefirst division..Dont you think?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO LEAGUE

-Koopers
-Hawks
-Express/BLC
-RR
-91
-FCA
-Madlax
-API/National Rank #3
-Crabs
(not sure of any others playing in Elite)

BEST LEAGUE IN THE COUNTRY

Duke Nationals in mix during summer tournaments


Crab's at the bottom....really?



Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find it amazing that the elite teams are mainly elite due to holdbacks,,
This is exactly how youth sports was meant to be.



Is it really that amazing to you? It is exactly how this Elite division is and it's not changing for any daddies whose kid did not make a team that plays it .It has not changed in years for the rising 8th graders. Every single team in this division will have at least 1 holdback for many different reasons. Every parent,player, coach and team all know this and will sign up just the same. HOCO has 5 other divisions to play in for those that don't like the current format.


That's funny. Do you honestly think that teams in the AA division don't have holdbacks too? Looneys may have more than anyone at this grade.


The DCExpress "B" team has more
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs lost 4 or 5 of their top players from a team that finished middle of pack last year. So probably accurate to predict a step down.


"Top players"...according to who? Everybody is a top player to somebody. Weather or not that person has any credibility is another matter entirely.

And what about the skill set, size and speed of the boys they kept or picked up. Does your crystal ball tell you all that too?

These postings are all hot air. It will all come out in the wash come spring.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs lost 4 or 5 of their top players from a team that finished middle of pack last year. So probably accurate to predict a step down.


"Top players"...according to who? Everybody is a top player to somebody. Weather or not that person has any credibility is another matter entirely.

And what about the skill set, size and speed of the boys they kept or picked up. Does your crystal ball tell you all that too?

These postings are all hot air. It will all come out in the wash come spring.


-Koopers
-Hawks
-Express/BLC
-RR
-91
-FCA
-Madlax
-API/National Rank #3
-Crabs

They may be hot air but whoever posted it knows what's going.

Hawks and Express may swap spots.

Madlax may be above 91 also.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO LEAGUE

-Koopers
-Hawks
-Express/BLC
-RR
-91
-FCA
-Madlax
-API/National Rank #3
-Crabs
(not sure of any others playing in Elite)

BEST LEAGUE IN THE COUNTRY

Duke Nationals in mix during summer tournaments


Crab's at the bottom....really?



Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find it amazing that the elite teams are mainly elite due to holdbacks,,
This is exactly how youth sports was meant to be.



Is it really that amazing to you? It is exactly how this Elite division is and it's not changing for any daddies whose kid did not make a team that plays it .It has not changed in years for the rising 8th graders. Every single team in this division will have at least 1 holdback for many different reasons. Every parent,player, coach and team all know this and will sign up just the same. HOCO has 5 other divisions to play in for those that don't like the current format.


That's funny. Do you honestly think that teams in the AA division don't have holdbacks too? Looneys may have more than anyone at this grade.


The DCExpress "B" team has more

Duke's National shouldn't be in any conversation. The team is not built from kids in a specific area. It's let me grab the 25 best kids from Virginia to Maine. The fact that their team does not win every tournament it is in is a travesty. I laugh that they boast of winning tournaments playing against localized clubs. I they played and won a tournament against some National club teams with their best kids (91, Madlax,FCA,LB3, 3d,...) then they could talk, but they would probably be missing part of their team.
In terms of Dukes, the team doesn't practice from May through August. They just get together and play for the fun of it. The fact that they are able to play as well as they do is a testament to those boys skill levels. If they have to play a top team early in a tournament they can and do struggle which would be expected when playing a team that has been practicing together 3-4 days a week for months on end. But as you saw against Hawks, if they get to play 4 or 5 games first, they can run any team off the field.
Who put out this ranking?
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Who put out this ranking?



It is the based on winning%, SOS, coaches voting, score dif. USL ranking it is a very complicated algorithm but the BOTC ranking is the most accurate and up to date on and should be the standard used when seeding teams as well as a guide club owners can and should use when deciding the annual tuition fees to charge parents.
Yeah...and the 2022 Crabs will be at the bottom of the wash.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs lost 4 or 5 of their top players from a team that finished middle of pack last year. So probably accurate to predict a step down.


"Top players"...according to who? Everybody is a top player to somebody. Weather or not that person has any credibility is another matter entirely.

And what about the skill set, size and speed of the boys they kept or picked up. Does your crystal ball tell you all that too?

These postings are all hot air. It will all come out in the wash come spring.


-Koopers
-Hawks
-Express/BLC
-RR
-91
-FCA
-Madlax
-API/National Rank #3
-Crabs

They may be hot air but whoever posted it knows what's going.

Hawks and Express may swap spots.

Madlax may be above 91 also.



91 is going to drop down. FCA picked up quite a few kids too.Should be a fun spring.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HOCO LEAGUE

-Koopers
-Hawks
-Express/BLC
-RR
-91
-FCA
-Madlax
-API/National Rank #3
-Crabs
(not sure of any others playing in Elite)

BEST LEAGUE IN THE COUNTRY

Duke Nationals in mix during summer tournaments


Crab's at the bottom....really?



Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find it amazing that the elite teams are mainly elite due to holdbacks,,
This is exactly how youth sports was meant to be.



Is it really that amazing to you? It is exactly how this Elite division is and it's not changing for any daddies whose kid did not make a team that plays it .It has not changed in years for the rising 8th graders. Every single team in this division will have at least 1 holdback for many different reasons. Every parent,player, coach and team all know this and will sign up just the same. HOCO has 5 other divisions to play in for those that don't like the current format.


That's funny. Do you honestly think that teams in the AA division don't have holdbacks too? Looneys may have more than anyone at this grade.


The DCExpress "B" team has more

Duke's National shouldn't be in any conversation. The team is not built from kids in a specific area. It's let me grab the 25 best kids from Virginia to Maine. The fact that their team does not win every tournament it is in is a travesty. I laugh that they boast of winning tournaments playing against localized clubs. I they played and won a tournament against some National club teams with their best kids (91, Madlax,FCA,LB3, 3d,...) then they could talk, but they would probably be missing part of their team.

Agree. Fine with losing to local clubs, including Millon's frequent flyers, but the idea of a mercenary all-star team from out of state competing against local clubs seems like trophy hunting.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs lost 4 or 5 of their top players from a team that finished middle of pack last year. So probably accurate to predict a step down.


"Top players"...according to who? Everybody is a top player to somebody. Weather or not that person has any credibility is another matter entirely.

And what about the skill set, size and speed of the boys they kept or picked up. Does your crystal ball tell you all that too?

These postings are all hot air. It will all come out in the wash come spring.


I completely agree with this post. What I can tell you is the Crabs will outwork everyone in the League to improve. Their coaching staff has more experience recruiting, developing and coaching elite 8th grade teams than any other staff in the Conference. Don't count this team or staff out. Look for a much improved team (including the Win Loss Record) under RM's leadership. Ryan's teams never finish anywhere close to last place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.



Does anyone think a group of kids from PA, NJ and NY are going to drive down to Bmore for one game early every Sunday morning? I've coached teams that have run the table for multiple years and they were all local. Even then you had kids miss games due to other commitments. Good luck lads....
AP

A HOLE Parent
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs lost 4 or 5 of their top players from a team that finished middle of pack last year. So probably accurate to predict a step down.


"Top players"...according to who? Everybody is a top player to somebody. Weather or not that person has any credibility is another matter entirely.

And what about the skill set, size and speed of the boys they kept or picked up. Does your crystal ball tell you all that too?

These postings are all hot air. It will all come out in the wash come spring.


I completely agree with this post. What I can tell you is the Crabs will outwork everyone in the League to improve. Their coaching staff has more experience recruiting, developing and coaching elite 8th grade teams than any other staff in the Conference. Don't count this team or staff out. Look for a much improved team (including the Win Loss Record) under RM's leadership. Ryan's teams never finish anywhere close to last place.


LOL. Thanks Ryan.
BLC feeds into express they don't have a 8th grade A team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.



Does anyone think a group of kids from PA, NJ and NY are going to drive down to Bmore for one game early every Sunday morning? I've coached teams that have run the table for multiple years and they were all local. Even then you had kids miss games due to other commitments. Good luck lads....



Rising Sons 2020 was in hoco 2 years ago and it worked for them.

They did play two games a weekend and skip other weekends.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.



Does anyone think a group of kids from PA, NJ and NY are going to drive down to Bmore for one game early every Sunday morning? I've coached teams that have run the table for multiple years and they were all local. Even then you had kids miss games due to other commitments. Good luck lads....



Rising Sons 2020 was in hoco 2 years ago and it worked for them.

They did play two games a weekend and skip other weekends.


that same yr Looneys and T91 2020 played in the philly league with the same kinda every other weekend deal.
Last year proved there will not be a Dominant team from start to finish. It's a very long year and hard to grind out every tournament . HOCO league was very competitive with the Hawks going undefeated. That is hard to do and it will be tough to repeat that. All other clubs got better and better as the summer tournaments started. Its hard to grind out 4 and 5 games every weekend. Talent and teams are too good. All the big tournaments proved that last summer including the WSYL,NLF,2022 Championship,HHH,Naptown etc.. Even an ALL STAR team will not be able to run the table. Teams are too good.
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Last year proved there will not be a Dominant team from start to finish. It's a very long year and hard to grind out every tournament . HOCO league was very competitive with the Hawks going undefeated. That is hard to do and it will be tough to repeat that. All other clubs got better and better as the summer tournaments started. Its hard to grind out 4 and 5 games every weekend. Talent and teams are too good. All the big tournaments proved that last summer including the WSYL,NLF,2022 Championship,HHH,Naptown etc.. Even an ALL STAR team will not be able to run the table. Teams are too good.


I think if you are just talking about teams with kids all living within 50 miles of each other, Hawks were fairly dominate. Losses to Dukes east coast all stars and Team 91 MD & TX were examples of how far you have to go to beat them.
It's debatable whether the Duke's National team even qualifies as an eligible team per hoco bylaws. Do they promote tryouts open to all or is it select invite only tryouts? And yes, I'd be perfectly ok with the Duke's not playing because of a technicality. An all-star team does not belong in a local club league anymore than a club team belongs in a local rec league.

"Independent Clubs application to the league for membership require its team(s) to promote and conduct open tryouts to assure equal access to all players that meet the age restrictions of the team(s) being organized for play. All Independent Clubs must meet the ‘multiple teams’ stipulation under the Membership section of these bylaws."
Duke's Nationals exists only as long as other club coaches allow their players to play for a second team. When they start beating their chest about beating local clubs, it might be time to check them by scheduling practices and play days on the same days as their mini-camps. You can't really tell a kid what they can and can't do on their own time, but you can create scheduling conflicts.
Is it really a Dukes National team or is Koopers just importing some ringers from PA,NJ and NY? It all comes down to numbers and team chemistry. Plenty of talented high school teams have failed to win a championship because they had 4 stars and 2 B- players on offense or defense. Opposing teams were able to shut off or slide fast to the top four offensive players and the remaining two couldn't finish. On offense, if the opposition has a more balanced offense, they can isolate the two weak links using off ball movement and/or a two man game and get quality time and room shots. If teams get a lot of film on this super team, they can be exposed by a talented team with better chemistry and coaching.
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Is it really a Dukes National team or is Koopers just importing some ringers from PA,NJ and NY? It all comes down to numbers and team chemistry. Plenty of talented high school teams have failed to win a championship because they had 4 stars and 2 B- players on offense or defense. Opposing teams were able to shut off or slide fast to the top four offensive players and the remaining two couldn't finish. On offense, if the opposition has a more balanced offense, they can isolate the two weak links using off ball movement and/or a two man game and get quality time and room shots. If teams get a lot of film on this super team, they can be exposed by a talented team with better chemistry and coaching.

In joy caring about winning with travel lacrosse this is the last year anyone will really care about it. Its all about college eyes the rest of the way.
in joy? did you graduate K????
DC Express B Team will be better than most HoCO teams save for 5-6 Elite teams. Should be even/beat Madlax and API.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it really a Dukes National team or is Koopers just importing some ringers from PA,NJ and NY? It all comes down to numbers and team chemistry. Plenty of talented high school teams have failed to win a championship because they had 4 stars and 2 B- players on offense or defense. Opposing teams were able to shut off or slide fast to the top four offensive players and the remaining two couldn't finish. On offense, if the opposition has a more balanced offense, they can isolate the two weak links using off ball movement and/or a two man game and get quality time and room shots. If teams get a lot of film on this super team, they can be exposed by a talented team with better chemistry and coaching.


The philly, nj and NY kids are on the Dukes Nationals team. The only kids they are missing from the normal team are the ones that play for FCA, API and 91
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it really a Dukes National team or is Koopers just importing some ringers from PA,NJ and NY? It all comes down to numbers and team chemistry. Plenty of talented high school teams have failed to win a championship because they had 4 stars and 2 B- players on offense or defense. Opposing teams were able to shut off or slide fast to the top four offensive players and the remaining two couldn't finish. On offense, if the opposition has a more balanced offense, they can isolate the two weak links using off ball movement and/or a two man game and get quality time and room shots. If teams get a lot of film on this super team, they can be exposed by a talented team with better chemistry and coaching.

In joy caring about winning with travel lacrosse this is the last year anyone will really care about it. Its all about college eyes the rest of the way.


No, Shallow Hal, its about winning an MIAA, WCAC, IAC or State title after this. The college stuff will take care of itself: if you're son is good enough, he will get recruited. If your son has collegiate potential (height, speed, skill, field IQ) and continues to develop he will get picked up. Its that simple.

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DC Express B Team will be better than most HoCO teams save for 5-6 Elite teams. Should be even/beat Madlax and API.


You are a complete moron Bethesda dad. Make sure you plan in the top divisions during the fall and summer tournaments.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last year proved there will not be a Dominant team from start to finish. It's a very long year and hard to grind out every tournament . HOCO league was very competitive with the Hawks going undefeated. That is hard to do and it will be tough to repeat that. All other clubs got better and better as the summer tournaments started. Its hard to grind out 4 and 5 games every weekend. Talent and teams are too good. All the big tournaments proved that last summer including the WSYL,NLF,2022 Championship,HHH,Naptown etc.. Even an ALL STAR team will not be able to run the table. Teams are too good.


I think if you are just talking about teams with kids all living within 50 miles of each other, Hawks were fairly dominate. Losses to Dukes east coast all stars and Team 91 MD & TX were examples of how far you have to go to beat them.


Too bad Hawks never played Igoo to see how the two best teams of local kids matched up.


Who is signed up for the Next Level fall league?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express B Team will be better than most HoCO teams save for 5-6 Elite teams. Should be even/beat Madlax and API.


You are a complete moron Bethesda dad. Make sure you plan in the top divisions during the fall and summer tournaments.


No big deal everyone beat API last year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express B Team will be better than most HoCO teams save for 5-6 Elite teams. Should be even/beat Madlax and API.


You are a complete moron Bethesda dad. Make sure you plan in the top divisions during the fall and summer tournaments.


No big deal everyone beat API last year.


api is the red headed step child
Api pick up some good long poles , same attack kids and the about same talent at middies . They got 2 face kids but not good enough for elite division for HOCO . The face off kids are good for AA division . Api could drop down
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Api pick up some good long poles , same attack kids and the about same talent at middies . They got 2 face kids but not good enough for elite division for HOCO . The face off kids are good for AA division . Api could drop down



Unless they lost the bulk of the team they will be just fine. I don't see them dropping down at all. Didn't they pick up a holdback goalie and a few more holdbacks. Plus what they had last year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api pick up some good long poles , same attack kids and the about same talent at middies . They got 2 face kids but not good enough for elite division for HOCO . The face off kids are good for AA division . Api could drop down



Unless they lost the bulk of the team they will be just fine. I don't see them dropping down at all. Didn't they pick up a holdback goalie and a few more holdbacks. Plus what they had last year.



And they were not good last year
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api pick up some good long poles , same attack kids and the about same talent at middies . They got 2 face kids but not good enough for elite division for HOCO . The face off kids are good for AA division . Api could drop down



Unless they lost the bulk of the team they will be just fine. I don't see them dropping down at all. Didn't they pick up a holdback goalie and a few more holdbacks. Plus what they had last year.


Doesn't matter who they picked up. They could have the best players in the world but they have no one who can coach.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api pick up some good long poles , same attack kids and the about same talent at middies . They got 2 face kids but not good enough for elite division for HOCO . The face off kids are good for AA division . Api could drop down



Unless they lost the bulk of the team they will be just fine. I don't see them dropping down at all. Didn't they pick up a holdback goalie and a few more holdbacks. Plus what they had last year.


Doesn't matter who they picked up. They could have the best players in the world but they have no one who can coach.



Not with API, but their new Coach is very good highly qualified.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api pick up some good long poles , same attack kids and the about same talent at middies . They got 2 face kids but not good enough for elite division for HOCO . The face off kids are good for AA division . Api could drop down



Unless they lost the bulk of the team they will be just fine. I don't see them dropping down at all. Didn't they pick up a holdback goalie and a few more holdbacks. Plus what they had last year.


Doesn't matter who they picked up. They could have the best players in the world but they have no one who can coach.



Not with API, but their new Coach is very good highly qualified.


Buggs is an outcast in the lax community so keep on dreaming. Maybe he was a good player 20 years ago, but he hasn't done anything as a coach. Also, the old coach is still involved just like last year, don't fool yourself. API is a [lacrosse] show.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api pick up some good long poles , same attack kids and the about same talent at middies . They got 2 face kids but not good enough for elite division for HOCO . The face off kids are good for AA division . Api could drop down



Unless they lost the bulk of the team they will be just fine. I don't see them dropping down at all. Didn't they pick up a holdback goalie and a few more holdbacks. Plus what they had last year.


Doesn't matter who they picked up. They could have the best players in the world but they have no one who can coach.



Not with API, but their new Coach is very good highly qualified.


Buggs is coaching this year - right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api pick up some good long poles , same attack kids and the about same talent at middies . They got 2 face kids but not good enough for elite division for HOCO . The face off kids are good for AA division . Api could drop down



Unless they lost the bulk of the team they will be just fine. I don't see them dropping down at all. Didn't they pick up a holdback goalie and a few more holdbacks. Plus what they had last year.


Doesn't matter who they picked up. They could have the best players in the world but they have no one who can coach.



Not with API, but their new Coach is very good highly qualified.

New coach in name only. Same characters on the sidelines.
The real question now for API is who will take the pictures?
Buggs hasn't coach in a elite league . He drops teams down..
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Buggs hasn't coach in a elite league . He drops teams down..



Not sure where you get information from. Buggs has coached several elite teams at the older levels and has had success . He is also heavily involved in the lax community and has been with Warrior from the very beginning. API will not drop down. He is highly qualified to coach that team. As far as the sideline losers its just unfortunate the rest of us will have to put up with it for another year. Hopefully they will let this coach teach their kids something and embarrass themselves or kids like every other year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buggs hasn't coach in a elite league . He drops teams down..



Not sure where you get information from. Buggs has coached several elite teams at the older levels and has had success . He is also heavily involved in the lax community and has been with Warrior from the very beginning. API will not drop down. He is highly qualified to coach that team. As far as the sideline losers its just unfortunate the rest of us will have to put up with it for another year. Hopefully they will let this coach teach their kids something and embarrass themselves or kids like every other year.


keep drinking that kool aid.
#3 in the World
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#3 in the World


#8 in hoco. #1 in our hearts!
We had a coach contact from Breakers club. What's the info on them? Thanks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We had a coach contact from Breakers club. What's the info on them? Thanks.


Buyer beware! They were an ok club until 91 hijacked most of their organization. Now they are really struggling
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
We had a coach contact from Breakers club. What's the info on them? Thanks.


Buyer beware! They were an ok club until 91 hijacked most of their organization. Now they are really struggling



They went from being a top club..to an ok club to a club not doing very well after Million left them and took what he wanted... But they have always been a very expensive club..
Laxworld 2022 fold?
Not sure about 2022 at Laxworld, but LWLC 2024's can't field a team. Looks like a lot of clubs are struggling to fill rosters.
The LWLC 2021 Coach left right before tryouts so I don't think Laxworld has a 2021 team either. He went to Breakers & I think many of the LWLC boys followed him there.
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Not sure about 2022 at Laxworld, but LWLC 2024's can't field a team. Looks like a lot of clubs are struggling to fill rosters.


LWLC 2024 Coach's son went to Looneys 2024 Orange.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The LWLC 2021 Coach left right before tryouts so I don't think Laxworld has a 2021 team either. He went to Breakers & I think many of the LWLC boys followed him there.


Lax World is not a viable club program
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buggs hasn't coach in a elite league . He drops teams down..



Not sure where you get information from. Buggs has coached several elite teams at the older levels and has had success . He is also heavily involved in the lax community and has been with Warrior from the very beginning. API will not drop down. He is highly qualified to coach that team. As far as the sideline losers its just unfortunate the rest of us will have to put up with it for another year. Hopefully they will let this coach teach their kids something and embarrass themselves or kids like every other year.


Have another cup of API cool-aid.
Buggs is a complete joke of a coach a bad example for teenage boys. He acts like a child often himself.
Once showed up to coach his team halfway through the game when he showed up late after a night of drinking.
Maybe if he can separate his personal life from his work life he can strive to be something more than a glorified figurehead.
Sorry for those LWLC kids and parents Breakers is a joke but enjoy the failed promises
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The LWLC 2021 Coach left right before tryouts so I don't think Laxworld has a 2021 team either. He went to Breakers & I think many of the LWLC boys followed him there.


Like getting rescued from the Titanic by the Hindenburg
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The LWLC 2021 Coach left right before tryouts so I don't think Laxworld has a 2021 team either. He went to Breakers & I think many of the LWLC boys followed him there.


Like getting rescued from the Titanic by the Hindenburg


I view it differently. Breakers will be a "survivor" as clubs like LWLC, Bitmore and others fade into memory. There are, IMHO, too many clubs, and the environment will become one of consolidation. The growth of clubs in the last ten years apparently has outpaced the number of clients available to serve. Whatever the prior experiences at Breakers, perhaps with a new directorship and with greater player participation, the organization might flourish again. Who knows, but at least they will survive along with a handful of others in the Baltimore area and so at least have the opportunity to examine and reexamine itself with hopes of improving. I am not sure that Team 91MD has a long shelf life, along with Team 42, Green Turtle. Less competition will invariably result in better teams, better organizations, and perhaps multiple teams at grade levels which will permit better coaching of basic skills at the second level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buggs hasn't coach in a elite league . He drops teams down..



Not sure where you get information from. Buggs has coached several elite teams at the older levels and has had success . He is also heavily involved in the lax community and has been with Warrior from the very beginning. API will not drop down. He is highly qualified to coach that team. As far as the sideline losers its just unfortunate the rest of us will have to put up with it for another year. Hopefully they will let this coach teach their kids something and embarrass themselves or kids like every other year.


Have another cup of API cool-aid.
Buggs is a complete joke of a coach a bad example for teenage boys. He acts like a child often himself.
Once showed up to coach his team halfway through the game when he showed up late after a night of drinking.
Maybe if he can separate his personal life from his work life he can strive to be something more than a glorified figurehead.


For those of us not "in the know", when did Buggs Combs show up late to a game and how do you know it was due to his drinking and staying out late at night? Was this a recent occurrence or are you simply digging up his past for your own purposes? By the way, were you or your family ever affiliated with API? I am not, but wonder what motivates people on this forum to being so viciously mean-spirited.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.
Crabs and Team 91 will be the only two AA or Elite Clubs in the next five years....the rest will drop to A level.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.


Those kids have been playing up since they started. They are 22s on the 21 team. Shame on you anonymous fawn.
I love it. Self anointed champs. Good thing the game is played on the field and not on these forums. Any given Sunday. This will be a great lax season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.


Those kids have been playing up since they started. They are 22s on the 21 team. Shame on you anonymous fawn.


Please define the term "playing up"
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Crabs and Team 91 will be the only two AA or Elite Clubs in the next five years....the rest will drop to A level.


Silly statement! Do mean at all age groups? Where will the rest of the AA or Elite teams come from for them to play against?
Do mean at this age group? There is only 4 more years for this age and if you think Mad Lax , Bethesda and especially the Hawks will drop down than you are a looney bin from Roland Park still living off your 80 year old parents money 💰
But thanks for your 2 cents
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Crabs and Team 91 will be the only two AA or Elite Clubs in the next five years....the rest will drop to A level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs and Team 91 will be the only two AA or Elite Clubs in the next five years....the rest will drop to A level.


Will the first candidate for the flat earth society please stand.
Playing Up' to play up an age or grade level from the age or grade level you belong in.
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Playing Up' to play up an age or grade level from the age or grade level you belong in.

When the boys are playing with kids their own age, it is not playing up. I don't care that they are a school year behind because they are holdbacks or pre-first. Let's not pretend that they aren't older 2022s or the equivalent of on age 2021s because we all know better.
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Crabs and Team 91 will be the only two AA or Elite Clubs in the next five years....the rest will drop to A level.


There will always be 1 or 2 elite teams from Baltimore, 1 or 2 from Anne Arundel Co, and 1 or 2 from Montgomery County.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.


His own kid is one of them. Reclassing is no different than taking an early PG year.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing Up' to play up an age or grade level from the age or grade level you belong in.

When the boys are playing with kids their own age, it is not playing up. I don't care that they are a school year behind because they are holdbacks or pre-first. Let's not pretend that they aren't older 2022s or the equivalent of on age 2021s because we all know better.



yawn...
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing Up' to play up an age or grade level from the age or grade level you belong in.

When the boys are playing with kids their own age, it is not playing up. I don't care that they are a school year behind because they are holdbacks or pre-first. Let's not pretend that they aren't older 2022s or the equivalent of on age 2021s because we all know better.


Lets not pretend that birthdates, holdbacks, and pre first kids are your problem. Your problem is that club lacrosse's best teams are full of kids that are pretty good and you feel badly for your son that he is "disadvantaged" bc of age and not bc of the simple fact that life isn't fair. Grow up and do something productive for yourself. If you can't ask for help. There are plenty of people who will help you in the lacrosse world.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.


Actually, they had a handful of kids playing up for several years, and now that 21's are going into HS, the true 22's stayed with their actual grade. Not holdbacks at all, on-age, compadre. NOW, that being said, a bunch of holdbacks from other clubs flocked to that 22 tryout because they wanted to be with that on-age talent, so best kids on-grade make the team. Why shouldn't Koopers benefit? Their older teams did it straight up for several years and are competitive over .500 AA teams now, so screw you if some holdbacks finally show up in the 8th grade. That club paid their dues, no f'ing way they take sh@t for landing a couple 8th grade horses. F that, brother, F that, bs called on your weak-azz cheap shot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.


Those kids have been playing up since they started. They are 22s on the 21 team. Shame on you anonymous fawn.


Please define the term "playing up"


You just defined it all by yourself. They played up knuckled$ck. They are in the 8th grade for real, no repeated grades by your K-12 old tired public standards, but they played one graduation year ahead for the last several years. So last year they played 8th grade, but they were in 7th grade. Their former teammates went to HS, they went to 8th grade. They are now playing 8th grade again where they belonged all along. How did you need this explained? They payed up, so now they finally aren't playing up. Is that a freakin problem now too. Can't freakin win these days no matter what you do. You people need a new hobby other than trolling kids, dude.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing Up' to play up an age or grade level from the age or grade level you belong in.

When the boys are playing with kids their own age, it is not playing up. I don't care that they are a school year behind because they are holdbacks or pre-first. Let's not pretend that they aren't older 2022s or the equivalent of on age 2021s because we all know better.


Lets not pretend that birthdates, holdbacks, and pre first kids are your problem. Your problem is that club lacrosse's best teams are full of kids that are pretty good and you feel badly for your son that he is "disadvantaged" bc of age and not bc of the simple fact that life isn't fair. Grow up and do something productive for yourself. If you can't ask for help. There are plenty of people who will help you in the lacrosse world.


Lots of help available for only $50 an hour.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.


Actually, they had a handful of kids playing up for several years, and now that 21's are going into HS, the true 22's stayed with their actual grade. Not holdbacks at all, on-age, compadre. NOW, that being said, a bunch of holdbacks from other clubs flocked to that 22 tryout because they wanted to be with that on-age talent, so best kids on-grade make the team. Why shouldn't Koopers benefit? Their older teams did it straight up for several years and are competitive over .500 AA teams now, so screw you if some holdbacks finally show up in the 8th grade. That club paid their dues, no f'ing way they take sh@t for landing a couple 8th grade horses. F that, brother, F that, bs called on your weak-azz cheap shot.


3 of the 5 Koopers kids now playing as 2022s are reclassed 2021s (born before 9/1/2003). Only 2 were truly playing up.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.


His own kid is one of them. Reclassing is no different than taking an early PG year.


BS again, nice try. Still playing previous grade, didn't hold back in club, just when transferred to different t school. Fake News again. Keep it coming, we can go all night and day. Take you bs back to the other clubs, nothing to see here.. oh, and calling out a specific minor kid anonymously on the internet, yeah, that's creeper mode. Just let us know when you are ready for a shot at the title, and someone will be by my friend. Time and location big shot, time and location.
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The LWLC 2021 Coach left right before tryouts so I don't think Laxworld has a 2021 team either. He went to Breakers & I think many of the LWLC boys followed him there.


Like getting rescued from the Titanic by the Hindenburg


I view it differently. Breakers will be a "survivor" as clubs like LWLC, Bitmore and others fade into memory. There are, IMHO, too many clubs, and the environment will become one of consolidation. The growth of clubs in the last ten years apparently has outpaced the number of clients available to serve. Whatever the prior experiences at Breakers, perhaps with a new directorship and with greater player participation, the organization might flourish again. Who knows, but at least they will survive along with a handful of others in the Baltimore area and so at least have the opportunity to examine and reexamine itself with hopes of improving. I am not sure that Team 91MD has a long shelf life, along with Team 42, Green Turtle. Less competition will invariably result in better teams, better organizations, and perhaps multiple teams at grade levels which will permit better coaching of basic skills at the second level.


All clubs that regularly fail to post more than 1 team in the top hoco divisions are not likely to survive or will need to merge to do so.
Rock has merged with Bitmore and Chaos and is still struggling.
Lacrosse is just not as popular as it was and club fees have almost doubled in the past 5 years.
Baltimore is saturated - Greene Turtle, Kooper's, Breakers, LaxWorld, Team 42, Coppermine, and Wolfpack could probably all benefit from some consolidation.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing Up' to play up an age or grade level from the age or grade level you belong in.

When the boys are playing with kids their own age, it is not playing up. I don't care that they are a school year behind because they are holdbacks or pre-first. Let's not pretend that they aren't older 2022s or the equivalent of on age 2021s because we all know better.


Lets not pretend that birthdates, holdbacks, and pre first kids are your problem. Your problem is that club lacrosse's best teams are full of kids that are pretty good and you feel badly for your son that he is "disadvantaged" bc of age and not bc of the simple fact that life isn't fair. Grow up and do something productive for yourself. If you can't ask for help. There are plenty of people who will help you in the lacrosse world.

My only problem is the false narrative that these boys have been "playing up". The fact is that they will now be playing down. It's ok, a lot of kids play down, but don't pretend that they are world beaters because they played with kids their own age to this point. Surprised that this observation troubles you so much. Get comfortable in your own skin if you want to play the holdback game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.

It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs

It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.


Those kids have been playing up since they started. They are 22s on the 21 team. Shame on you anonymous fawn.


Please define the term "playing up"


You just defined it all by yourself. They played up knuckled$ck. They are in the 8th grade for real, no repeated grades by your K-12 old tired public standards, but they played one graduation year ahead for the last several years. So last year they played 8th grade, but they were in 7th grade. Their former teammates went to HS, they went to 8th grade. They are now playing 8th grade again where they belonged all along. How did you need this explained? They payed up, so now they finally aren't playing up. Is that a freakin problem now too. Can't freakin win these days no matter what you do. You people need a new hobby other than trolling kids, dude.



Wow..You are the one who needs to be educated...They never played up..They played with their age group. Good for them. Now that they are in 8th grade they get to play down for their age group. They should do well. Grades are a BS way to form youth teams. Every sport knows that except you private school apologists who want your little Johnny to have an advantage over over young children.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The LWLC 2021 Coach left right before tryouts so I don't think Laxworld has a 2021 team either. He went to Breakers & I think many of the LWLC boys followed him there.


Like getting rescued from the Titanic by the Hindenburg


I view it differently. Breakers will be a "survivor" as clubs like LWLC, Bitmore and others fade into memory. There are, IMHO, too many clubs, and the environment will become one of consolidation. The growth of clubs in the last ten years apparently has outpaced the number of clients available to serve. Whatever the prior experiences at Breakers, perhaps with a new directorship and with greater player participation, the organization might flourish again. Who knows, but at least they will survive along with a handful of others in the Baltimore area and so at least have the opportunity to examine and reexamine itself with hopes of improving. I am not sure that Team 91MD has a long shelf life, along with Team 42, Green Turtle. Less competition will invariably result in better teams, better organizations, and perhaps multiple teams at grade levels which will permit better coaching of basic skills at the second level.


All clubs that regularly fail to post more than 1 team in the top hoco divisions are not likely to survive or will need to merge to do so.
Rock has merged with Bitmore and Chaos and is still struggling.
Lacrosse is just not as popular as it was and club fees have almost doubled in the past 5 years.
Baltimore is saturated - Greene Turtle, Kooper's, Breakers, LaxWorld, Team 42, Coppermine, and Wolfpack could probably all benefit from some consolidation.




Many of these players should be playing rec. Maybe parents are finally realizing that if your child isnt some true older athletic player or you didnt hold your child back he isnt going to be elite level player ... so why pay thousands of dollars to not play against the elite level teams. save yourself thousands of dollars and play against non elite teams. ..
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.

It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs

It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.


Those kids have been playing up since they started. They are 22s on the 21 team. Shame on you anonymous fawn.


Please define the term "playing up"


You just defined it all by yourself. They played up knuckled$ck. They are in the 8th grade for real, no repeated grades by your K-12 old tired public standards, but they played one graduation year ahead for the last several years. So last year they played 8th grade, but they were in 7th grade. Their former teammates went to HS, they went to 8th grade. They are now playing 8th grade again where they belonged all along. How did you need this explained? They payed up, so now they finally aren't playing up. Is that a freakin problem now too. Can't freakin win these days no matter what you do. You people need a new hobby other than trolling kids, dude.



Wow..You are the one who needs to be educated...They never played up..They played with their age group. Good for them. Now that they are in 8th grade they get to play down for their age group. They should do well. Grades are a BS way to form youth teams. Every sport knows that except you private school apologists who want your little Johnny to have an advantage over over young children.


I see how it works now. Once the truth about how old the kids are is out there, anyone who discusses it is a knucklehead or needs to pay for more private lessons. The easier route would just be to follow the path that these kids' parents took and just have your kid play against younger kids when it counts. It's not breaking any rules, so everyone should just shut up while you preach to the younger kids to work harder. Probably not terrible advice to overcome the advantage of playing against older boys.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.

Do you have proof that these kids are holdbacksthese?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.

It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.


Those kids have been playing up since they started. They are 22s on the 21 team. Shame on you anonymous fawn.


Please define the term "playing up"


You just defined it all by yourself. They played up knuckled$ck. They are in the 8th grade for real, no repeated grades by your K-12 old tired public standards, but they played one graduation year ahead for the last several years. So last year they played 8th grade, but they were in 7th grade. Their former teammates went to HS, they went to 8th grade. They are now playing 8th grade again where they belonged all along. How did you need this explained? They payed up, so now they finally aren't playing up. Is that a freakin problem now too. Can't freakin win these days no matter what you do. You people need a new hobby other than trolling kids, dude.



Wow..You are the one who needs to be educated...They never played up..They played with their age group. Good for them. Now that they are in 8th grade they get to play down for their age group. They should do well. Grades are a BS way to form youth teams. Every sport knows that except you private school apologists who want your little Johnny to have an advantage over over young children.


No di&kweed. The kids you are talking about literally played up an age and grade level. They were public schools kids playing up a graduation year against older kids. They happen to be really really good, so I guess it is just easier for you to pretend there is something there to capitalize on, but there isn't. What are you getting out of pretending this wasn't the case? You are literally making up a fake situation and arguing about it. I think that means you are a total loser, so that look your wife gives you, yeah, that's the look someone headed down the loser path gets..
Who gives a [lacrosse] about koopers being good. That is great of the league and for tournaments. Koopers being good means crabs suck.
Express means no more BLC. So what teams do we see this year

KOOPERS
HAWKS
EXPRESS
91
RR
MADLAX
CRABS
API

Who else at elite
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.

It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a

So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny

Those kids have been playing up since they started. They are 22s on the 21 team. Shame on you anonymous fawn

Please define the term "playing up"


You just defined it all by yourself. They played up knuckled$ck. They are in the 8th grade for real, no repeated grades by your K-12 old tired public standards, but they played one graduation year ahead for the last several years. So last year they played 8th grade, but they were in 7th grade. Their former teammates went to HS, they went to 8th grade. They are now playing 8th grade again where they belonged all along. How did you need this explained? They payed up, so now they finally aren't playing up. Is that a freakin problem now too. Can't freakin win these days no matter what you do. You people need a new hobby other than trolling kids, dude.



Wow..You are the one who needs to be educated...They never played up..They played with their age group. Good for them. Now that they are in 8th grade they get to play down for their age group. They should do well. Grades are a BS way to form youth teams. Every sport knows that except you private school apologists who want your little Johnny to have an advantage over over young children.


No di&kweed. The kids you are talking about literally played up an age and grade level. They were public schools kids playing up a graduation year against older kids. They happen to be really really good, so I guess it is just easier for you to pretend there is something there to capitalize on, but there isn't. What are you getting out of pretending this wasn't the case? You are literally making up a fake situation and arguing about it. I think that means you are a total loser, so that look your wife gives you, yeah, that's the look someone headed down the loser path gets..



I see you have a lot of anger issues ! If they played up a grade and AGE and have now decided to play within their proper grade and age, good for them, that is admirable . That is the way of many players years ago. Play up.. Most tournaments just a few years ago usually saw the better teams playing up an age group. Not now with the epidemic holdback world.

Need to relax ...A simple they are on grade and on age by USL guidelines for 8th grade would have been sufficient to get your point across.



Top 3

RR
Hawks
Koopers
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Who gives a [lacrosse] about koopers being good. That is great of the league and for tournaments. Koopers being good means crabs suck.
Express means no more BLC. So what teams do we see this year

KOOPERS
HAWKS
EXPRESS
91
RR
MADLAX
CRABS
API

Who else at elite


api will not be in elite
What is this crap about Koopers having kids flock to it? The new "studs" are Dukes kids for the most part. The Dukes kids may not even play as "Koopers" and are playing as Dukes Nationals this spring in HOCO. The owners son is repeating 8th grade at St. Pauls this year, so it's not BS. The only 2 kids that were actually born on or after 9/1/2003 are a certain Hopkins' coaches boys. The rest of the kids that "played up" on Koopers 21 were older. I don't understand why parents think other parents don't know who the older kids are. They go to school together and know each other. I personally don't care about holdbacks, My son competes just fine. But I don't understand why you have to lie about it. It is what it is and it's within the rules currently.
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Buggs hasn't coach in a elite league . He drops teams down..



Not sure where you get information from. Buggs has coached several elite teams at the older levels and has had success . He is also heavily involved in the lax community and has been with Warrior from the very beginning. API will not drop down. He is highly qualified to coach that team. As far as the sideline losers its just unfortunate the rest of us will have to put up with it for another year. Hopefully they will let this coach teach their kids something and embarrass themselves or kids like every other year.


Have another cup of API cool-aid.
Buggs is a complete joke of a coach a bad example for teenage boys. He acts like a child often himself.
Once showed up to coach his team halfway through the game when he showed up late after a night of drinking.
Maybe if he can separate his personal life from his work life he can strive to be something more than a glorified figurehead.


For those of us not "in the know", when did Buggs Combs show up late to a game and how do you know it was due to his drinking and staying out late at night? Was this a recent occurrence or are you simply digging up his past for your own purposes? By the way, were you or your family ever affiliated with API? I am not, but wonder what motivates people on this forum to being so viciously mean-spirited.


I remember this. Several years ago. Beach Lax. Parents had to step in and coach until he and Asst. Coach showed up. Hopefully he has matured since then.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is this crap about Koopers having kids flock to it? The new "studs" are Dukes kids for the most part. The Dukes kids may not even play as "Koopers" and are playing as Dukes Nationals this spring in HOCO. The owners son is repeating 8th grade at St. Pauls this year, so it's not BS. The only 2 kids that were actually born on or after 9/1/2003 are a certain Hopkins' coaches boys. The rest of the kids that "played up" on Koopers 21 were older. I don't understand why parents think other parents don't know who the older kids are. They go to school together and know each other. I personally don't care about holdbacks, My son competes just fine. But I don't understand why you have to lie about it. It is what it is and it's within the rules currently.


Wait, you just acknowledged the other person's points, then seemingly kept arguing anyway. So there were some players that played up for several years (kind of weak that you had to call them out personally, since they are minors, very inappropriate), and now they are just where they should be by age and grade. Then, in calling out another minor, you forgot to mention the fact that he did not play down at 22, rather stayed where he would have been had he not held back at school at 21, I guess just a minor detail fact that got in your way. It is not your business what minors do in school, he didn't sign up to play down at club lax, so another weak call out of a minor personally. And yes, that tryout was ridiculous, picked up some real beasts that want to play with some of the kids that you called out now that they at 22 level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 3

RR
Hawks
Koopers


1 Koopers/Dukes/philly boys
2 Hawks
3 D.C. Express
4 91MD/TX
5 RR
6 Madlax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 3

RR
Hawks
Koopers


1 Koopers/Dukes/philly boys
2 Hawks
3 D.C. Express
4 91MD/TX
5 RR
6 Madlax

1. Hawks
2. DC Express
3. RR
4. Dukes (without any MD kids)
5. FCA
6. Madlax
7. 91 MD (with TX and Carolina kids)
8. Crabs
9. API
10. Next Level
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 3

RR
Hawks
Koopers


1 Koopers/Dukes/philly boys
2 Hawks
3 D.C. Express
4 91MD/TX
5 RR
6 Madlax


91 lost half their team. Not sure why anyone expects them to stay at the top of the list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 3

RR
Hawks
Koopers


1 Koopers/Dukes/philly boys
2 Hawks
3 D.C. Express
4 91MD/TX
5 RR
6 Madlax


1 D.C. Express
2 Hawks
3 Koopers/Dukes/philly boys
4 RR
5 91MD/TX
6 Madlax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buggs hasn't coach in a elite league . He drops teams down..



Not sure where you get information from. Buggs has coached several elite teams at the older levels and has had success . He is also heavily involved in the lax community and has been with Warrior from the very beginning. API will not drop down. He is highly qualified to coach that team. As far as the sideline losers its just unfortunate the rest of us will have to put up with it for another year. Hopefully they will let this coach teach their kids something and embarrass themselves or kids like every other year.


Have another cup of API cool-aid.
Buggs is a complete joke of a coach a bad example for teenage boys. He acts like a child often himself.
Once showed up to coach his team halfway through the game when he showed up late after a night of drinking.
Maybe if he can separate his personal life from his work life he can strive to be something more than a glorified figurehead.


For those of us not "in the know", when did Buggs Combs show up late to a game and how do you know it was due to his drinking and staying out late at night? Was this a recent occurrence or are you simply digging up his past for your own purposes? By the way, were you or your family ever affiliated with API? I am not, but wonder what motivates people on this forum to being so viciously mean-spirited.


I remember this. Several years ago. Beach Lax. Parents had to step in and coach until he and Asst. Coach showed up. Hopefully he has matured since then.


Thanks for responding in part to my questions. So SEVERAL YEARS AGO! I suppose, the cynical and sarcastic crowd of this board disallows a human being to perhaps "learn from their mistakes" and become a better man, coach, human being and mentor. I suppose in the narrow world of this board, once you have made a mistake, that mistake is uncorrectable and disqualifies you forever from coaching again, maturing, or finding a better path. I am not suggesting that we excuse habitually bad conduct as it is our kids that we would be placing at risk. My point was, and remains, that it is my opinion that we ought not take potshots at anyone based upon a singular/random instance that in the long term will have no impact on anyone other than the individual involved and his standing in the organization. Apparently API has survived/endured despite the episode mentioned. From what I have observed, the API 2022 kids remained intact, and flourished to a point (WSYL qualifier and semi-finalist) that most of us would like to have had our sons a part of. Please, whatever organization you are a part of, make it better through positive contributions to it. Don't believe you are making it better by tearing down your neighbors, members of the community, and friends of your kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Koopers? We know they have some 2021 kids coming down to play 2022 but this team needs a lot of help now they are ranked #2 never seen them play before.


It's not the existing Koopers 2022 team playing in HOCO. It's a combination of the 2021 Koopers kids and other Dukes Nationals players from PA, NJ and NY. They also picked up a kid that left Crabs


It's 5 kids from Koopers 2021 including the leading scorers and goalie. The Philly/nj all stars will fill out the rest of the team.

Basically, it's the core of kids that killed Hawks at Naptown. They may runaway with Hoco this year no matter who BLC/DCE and Hawks add.


So for years the Koopers director dissed holdbacks. Now that he has some he will let them do this? Shame on you Ronny.


Actually, they had a handful of kids playing up for several years, and now that 21's are going into HS, the true 22's stayed with their actual grade. Not holdbacks at all, on-age, compadre. NOW, that being said, a bunch of holdbacks from other clubs flocked to that 22 tryout because they wanted to be with that on-age talent, so best kids on-grade make the team. Why shouldn't Koopers benefit? Their older teams did it straight up for several years and are competitive over .500 AA teams now, so screw you if some holdbacks finally show up in the 8th grade. That club paid their dues, no f'ing way they take sh@t for landing a couple 8th grade horses. F that, brother, F that, bs called on your weak-azz cheap shot.


3 of the 5 Koopers kids now playing as 2022s are reclassed 2021s (born before 9/1/2003). Only 2 were truly playing up.




According to the Kooper's website, all 5 of those kids are listed on the roster of the 2021 Black team. They are accordingly NOT listed as members of the 2022 team. Based on HOCO rules, "players may only play for one team in this conference". Failure to abide by this rule results in any team that player plays for disqualified in all games. A kid has to be on the conference roster at the beginning of the season. I am not seeing how any of the Kooper's kids get to play on 2021, 2022 Kooper's or Dukes Nationals 2022. The listed Kooper's 2022 team is good and should be competitive in the "AA" segment of HOCO. Without some or all of the 5 2021 players they are not an elite team. Of course, they can bring in kids from other states like 91 MD and Crabs I believe intend to do, but that is a whole different discussion.
@ Koopers Stalker Above...

Gosh you are thick-skulled and angry. There is no spring league for the 21s. That is why the younger Koopers kids are playing on a team this spring at 22!! Man Oh Man... let the kids be...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
@ Koopers Stalker Above...

Gosh you are thick-skulled and angry. There is no spring league for the 21s. That is why the younger Koopers kids are playing on a team this spring at 22!! Man Oh Man... let the kids be...


Stand corrected. My bad. So, there will be about 30 Kooper's kids on the 2022 roster and standing on the sidelines at HOCO games. Just trying to prepare myself to look at 20 or so kids standing on the sidelines during a game.
Next level or club blue
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buggs hasn't coach in a elite league . He drops teams down..



Not sure where you get information from. Buggs has coached several elite teams at the older levels and has had success . He is also heavily involved in the lax community and has been with Warrior from the very beginning. API will not drop down. He is highly qualified to coach that team. As far as the sideline losers its just unfortunate the rest of us will have to put up with it for another year. Hopefully they will let this coach teach their kids something and embarrass themselves or kids like every other year.


Have another cup of API cool-aid.
Buggs is a complete joke of a coach a bad example for teenage boys. He acts like a child often himself.
Once showed up to coach his team halfway through the game when he showed up late after a night of drinking.
Maybe if he can separate his personal life from his work life he can strive to be something more than a glorified figurehead.


For those of us not "in the know", when did Buggs Combs show up late to a game and how do you know it was due to his drinking and staying out late at night? Was this a recent occurrence or are you simply digging up his past for your own purposes? By the way, were you or your family ever affiliated with API? I am not, but wonder what motivates people on this forum to being so viciously mean-spirited.


I remember this. Several years ago. Beach Lax. Parents had to step in and coach until he and Asst. Coach showed up. Hopefully he has matured since then.



Several years ago? The man runs API LACROSSE !
Evergreen 2022 Elite is going to make a major splash and surprise everyone.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buggs hasn't coach in a elite league . He drops teams down..



Not sure where you get information from. Buggs has coached several elite teams at the older levels and has had success . He is also heavily involved in the lax community and has been with Warrior from the very beginning. API will not drop down. He is highly qualified to coach that team. As far as the sideline losers its just unfortunate the rest of us will have to put up with it for another year. Hopefully they will let this coach teach their kids something and embarrass themselves or kids like every other year.


Have another cup of API cool-aid.
Buggs is a complete joke of a coach a bad example for teenage boys. He acts like a child often himself.
Once showed up to coach his team halfway through the game when he showed up late after a night of drinking.
Maybe if he can separate his personal life from his work life he can strive to be something more than a glorified figurehead.


For those of us not "in the know", when did Buggs Combs show up late to a game and how do you know it was due to his drinking and staying out late at night? Was this a recent occurrence or are you simply digging up his past for your own purposes? By the way, were you or your family ever affiliated with API? I am not, but wonder what motivates people on this forum to being so viciously mean-spirited.


I remember this. Several years ago. Beach Lax. Parents had to step in and coach until he and Asst. Coach showed up. Hopefully he has matured since then.



Several years ago? The man runs API LACROSSE !


Your point being?



1 Hawks 1st last year
2 DC Express/ BLC. 2nd last year
3 RR 3rd last year
4 Koopers/Dukes
5 Crabs
6 Mad lax
7 91Md/TX
8 FCA
9 API
10 everyone else

All teams need to play each other this year . League needs to make this happen. Even if it means a week night game plus weekend game. Hard to see any team running the table. Head to head will matter come playoff seeding.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]@ Koopers Stalker Above...

Gosh you are thick-skulled and angry. There is no spring league for the 21s. That is why the younger Koopers kids are playing on a team this spring at 22!! Man Oh Man... let the kids be...


Stand corrected. My bad. So, there will be about 30 Kooper's kids on the 2022 roster and standing on the sidelines at HOCO games. Just trying to prepare myself to look at 20 or so kids standing on the sidelines during a game.[/quote

You are preparing yourself in September for a Koopers personnel matter for Spring, and that has nothing to do with you. Awesome use of your time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen 2022 Elite is going to make a major splash and surprise everyone.

The Evergreen troll is worse than the Dukes troll.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen 2022 Elite is going to make a major splash and surprise everyone.


Haha...that's hysterical. Evergreen will be lucky to compete in the AA/A division. Huge difference between the competition and talent in elite vs. AA/A divisions
Originally Posted by Anonymous



1 Hawks 1st last year
2 DC Express/ BLC. 2nd last year
3 RR 3rd last year
4 Koopers/Dukes
5 Crabs
6 Mad lax
7 91Md/TX
8 FCA


9 API
10 everyone else

All teams need to play each other this year . League needs to make this happen. Even if it means a week night game plus weekend game. Hard to see any team running the table. Head to head will matter come playoff seeding.


You are way too invested in this. Save all the games during the week for next year in high school when the games actually matter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



1 Hawks 1st last year
2 DC Express/ BLC. 2nd last year
3 RR 3rd last year
4 Koopers/Dukes
5 Crabs
6 Mad lax
7 91Md/TX
8 FCA


9 API
10 everyone else

All teams need to play each other this year . League needs to make this happen. Even if it means a week night game plus weekend game. Hard to see any team running the table. Head to head will matter come playoff seeding.


You are way too invested in this. Save all the games during the week for next year in high school when the games actually matter.


AMEN.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



1 Hawks 1st last year
2 DC Express/ BLC. 2nd last year
3 RR 3rd last year
4 Koopers/Dukes
5 Crabs
6 Mad lax
7 91Md/TX
8 FCA


9 API
10 everyone else

All teams need to play each other this year . League needs to make this happen. Even if it means a week night game plus weekend game. Hard to see any team running the table. Head to head will matter come playoff seeding.


You are way too invested in this. Save all the games during the week for next year in high school when the games actually matter.


AMEN.




Completely agree with original post. Too invested? Yes ,when the season comes Everyone on this site will be heavily invested. Fall tournaments, fuel , practices, hotels,winter indoor, fuel,practices,play days, scrimmages etc.
To get snubbed come playoff time to a team you never even played will be a bit disappointing to all that are too invested.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



1 Hawks 1st last year
2 DC Express/ BLC. 2nd last year
3 RR 3rd last year
4 Koopers/Dukes
5 Crabs
6 Mad lax
7 91Md/TX
8 FCA


9 API
10 everyone else

All teams need to play each other this year . League needs to make this happen. Even if it means a week night game plus weekend game. Hard to see any team running the table. Head to head will matter come playoff seeding.


You are way too invested in this. Save all the games during the week for next year in high school when the games actually matter.


AMEN.


High games are a joke. Save it for college when they really matter.




I agree that all the teams need to play each other. Not only for the playoffs but with this league being one of the best in the country it gets you more games at the highest level. Then your team does not have to chance tournaments all summer. It would like to play every team twice and then reduce to 3 tournaments.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



1 Hawks 1st last year
2 DC Express/ BLC. 2nd last year
3 RR 3rd last year
4 Koopers/Dukes
5 Crabs
6 Mad lax
7 91Md/TX
8 FCA


9 API
10 everyone else

All teams need to play each other this year . League needs to make this happen. Even if it means a week night game plus weekend game. Hard to see any team running the table. Head to head will matter come playoff seeding.


You are way too invested in this. Save all the games during the week for next year in high school when the games actually matter.


AMEN.


High games are a joke. Save it for college when they really matter.





Are theses rankings based on the spring and summer results from this past season?
Half these kids on the Elite teams won't even get much playing time especially if your new to the team.It's better drop down a level and get alot of time playing before you go to high school . Field time is more important then what team your on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



1 Hawks 1st last year
2 DC Express/ BLC. 2nd last year
3 RR 3rd last year
4 Koopers/Dukes
5 Crabs
6 Mad lax
7 91Md/TX
8 FCA


9 API
10 everyone else

All teams need to play each other this year . League needs to make this happen. Even if it means a week night game plus weekend game. Hard to see any team running the table. Head to head will matter come playoff seeding.


You are way too invested in this. Save all the games during the week for next year in high school when the games actually matter.


AMEN.


High games are a joke. Save it for college when they really matter.





Are theses rankings based on the spring and summer results from this past season?


They aren't based on anything but some dopes opinion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The BW owner prefers raping 14 yr. girls and then threatening to kill them. If you don't believe me, read it yourself: http://www.gazette.net/gazette_archive/2001/200118/princegeorgescty/county/53670-1.html.

Can anyone confirm that the Blackwolf owner is this same guy in this article? 26 years old with a 15 year old girl at a school. And people really want to talk about the Madlax owner yelling at kids and mean emails? I guess you all do not care because you have boys?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The BW owner prefers raping 14 yr. girls and then threatening to kill them. If you don't believe me, read it yourself: http://www.gazette.net/gazette_archive/2001/200118/princegeorgescty/county/53670-1.html.

Can anyone confirm that the Blackwolf owner is this same guy in this article? 26 years old with a 15 year old girl at a school. And people really want to talk about the Madlax owner yelling at kids and mean emails? I guess you all do not care because you have boys?

So you want someone to confirm that you are calling the right guy a rapist? If it is the same guy, he is 1A and the MadLax guy is 1B on the dirt bag totem pole. Actually, MadLax guy shares 1B with Millon. See, we care.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The BW owner prefers raping 14 yr. girls and then threatening to kill them. If you don't believe me, read it yourself: http://www.gazette.net/gazette_archive/2001/200118/princegeorgescty/county/53670-1.html.

Can anyone confirm that the Blackwolf owner is this same guy in this article? 26 years old with a 15 year old girl at a school. And people really want to talk about the Madlax owner yelling at kids and mean emails? I guess you all do not care because you have boys?


That's an old story and well known. Why are you posting this on every forum?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The BW owner prefers raping 14 yr. girls and then threatening to kill them. If you don't believe me, read it yourself:

Can anyone confirm that the Blackwolf owner is this same guy in this article? 26 years old with a 15 year old girl at a school. And people really want to talk about the Madlax owner yelling at kids and mean emails? I guess you all do not care because you have boys?


That's an old story and well known. Why are you posting this on every forum?

Well its a new story to me and I find it 10000% nuts that a guy with this on his record can have a team or every coach at a high school. He was 26 years old not 18 and one day. This keeps you out of working for the Gov. how the He!! can he work around anyones kids ever. The system is broken so I think it should me posted over and over again tell he is no longer working with anyone child.!
Rumor has it Evergreen 2022 will beat Madlax 2022 this year and be competitive with DC Express and Hawks

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor has it Evergreen 2022 will beat Madlax 2022 this year and be competitive with DC Express and Hawks


How does half a 3d team (and not the top half) + 2nd/3rd string Cavs players joining up at Evergreen make a great team? Last couple years, 3d 2022 and Cavs 2022 could not keep up with any of those programs - so the math does not add up. Any of those clubs will beat Evergreen by 6-8 goals on a bad day, even with Dylan M helping, heck, throw in Rambo and still no difference. But all moot because Evergreen won't be in the Elite division. Evergreen is the club kids settle for when they can't make an elite team and/or for when Loudoun parents don't want to drive past Leesburg for practices.
Originally Posted by Anonymous



How does half a 3d team (and not the top half) + 2nd/3rd string Cavs players joining up at Evergreen make a great team? Last couple years, 3d 2022 and Cavs 2022 could not keep up with any of those programs - so the math does not add up. Any of those clubs will beat Evergreen by 6-8 goals on a bad day, even with Dylan M helping, heck, throw in Rambo and still no difference. But all moot because Evergreen won't be in the Elite division. Evergreen is the club kids settle for when they can't make an elite team and/or for when Loudoun parents don't want to drive past Leesburg for practices.


Dude you are a schmuck.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor has it Evergreen 2022 will beat Madlax 2022 this year and be competitive with DC Express and Hawks




****WARNING, WARNING - DO NOT FEED TROLL'S - WARNING, WARNING****
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor has it Evergreen 2022 will beat Madlax 2022 this year and be competitive with DC Express and Hawks


How does half a 3d team (and not the top half) + 2nd/3rd string Cavs players joining up at Evergreen make a great team? Last couple years, 3d 2022 and Cavs 2022 could not keep up with any of those programs - so the math does not add up. Any of those clubs will beat Evergreen by 6-8 goals on a bad day, even with Dylan M helping, heck, throw in Rambo and still no difference. But all moot because Evergreen won't be in the Elite division. Evergreen is the club kids settle for when they can't make an elite team and/or for when Loudoun parents don't want to drive past Leesburg for practices.



I do not think that Evergreen should have to drive to HOCO to prove they are the best. If DCE and Hawks want to prove they are top teams they need to drive to Leesburg. Evergreen has the best facility in mid-Atlantic
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor has it Evergreen 2022 will beat Madlax 2022 this year and be competitive with DC Express and Hawks


How does half a 3d team (and not the top half) + 2nd/3rd string Cavs players joining up at Evergreen make a great team? Last couple years, 3d 2022 and Cavs 2022 could not keep up with any of those programs - so the math does not add up. Any of those clubs will beat Evergreen by 6-8 goals on a bad day, even with Dylan M helping, heck, throw in Rambo and still no difference. But all moot because Evergreen won't be in the Elite division. Evergreen is the club kids settle for when they can't make an elite team and/or for when Loudoun parents don't want to drive past Leesburg for practices.



I do not think that Evergreen should have to drive to HOCO to prove they are the best. If DCE and Hawks want to prove they are top teams they need to drive to Leesburg. Evergreen has the best facility in mid-Atlantic


Both Coaches from Hawks and BLC/DCE are known to play any one any where . Set it up ! Both Clubs do play days all the time and will play any Elite team any where.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor has it Evergreen 2022 will beat Madlax 2022 this year and be competitive with DC Express and Hawks


How does half a 3d team (and not the top half) + 2nd/3rd string Cavs players joining up at Evergreen make a great team? Last couple years, 3d 2022 and Cavs 2022 could not keep up with any of those programs - so the math does not add up. Any of those clubs will beat Evergreen by 6-8 goals on a bad day, even with Dylan M helping, heck, throw in Rambo and still no difference. But all moot because Evergreen won't be in the Elite division. Evergreen is the club kids settle for when they can't make an elite team and/or for when Loudoun parents don't want to drive past Leesburg for practices.



I do not think that Evergreen should have to drive to HOCO to prove they are the best. If DCE and Hawks want to prove they are top teams they need to drive to Leesburg. Evergreen has the best facility in mid-Atlantic


You're a tool. They have turf like everybody else...big whoop. The Everturd shills and daddy's are out in force today!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



How does half a 3d team (and not the top half) + 2nd/3rd string Cavs players joining up at Evergreen make a great team? Last couple years, 3d 2022 and Cavs 2022 could not keep up with any of those programs - so the math does not add up. Any of those clubs will beat Evergreen by 6-8 goals on a bad day, even with Dylan M helping, heck, throw in Rambo and still no difference. But all moot because Evergreen won't be in the Elite division. Evergreen is the club kids settle for when they can't make an elite team and/or for when Loudoun parents don't want to drive past Leesburg for practices.


Dude you are a schmuck.


Why, because he doesn't agree with you and the other Evergreen shill's on here who are propping up a rec level travel team as "Elite"?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor has it Evergreen 2022 will beat Madlax 2022 this year and be competitive with DC Express and Hawks


How does half a 3d team (and not the top half) + 2nd/3rd string Cavs players joining up at Evergreen make a great team? Last couple years, 3d 2022 and Cavs 2022 could not keep up with any of those programs - so the math does not add up. Any of those clubs will beat Evergreen by 6-8 goals on a bad day, even with Dylan M helping, heck, throw in Rambo and still no difference. But all moot because Evergreen won't be in the Elite division. Evergreen is the club kids settle for when they can't make an elite team and/or for when Loudoun parents don't want to drive past Leesburg for practices.



I do not think that Evergreen should have to drive to HOCO to prove they are the best. If DCE and Hawks want to prove they are top teams they need to drive to Leesburg. Evergreen has the best facility in mid-Atlantic

I thought Evergreen was going to play HOCO in all age groups or at least that's what the website says. Bet you the combined win total for Evergreen 2024-2022 in HOCO will be 5 or less. But to be positive, does seem like Evergreen is trying hard and has good resources and fields, just takes awhile to crawl out of the bottom.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



How does half a 3d team (and not the top half) + 2nd/3rd string Cavs players joining up at Evergreen make a great team? Last couple years, 3d 2022 and Cavs 2022 could not keep up with any of those programs - so the math does not add up. Any of those clubs will beat Evergreen by 6-8 goals on a bad day, even with Dylan M helping, heck, throw in Rambo and still no difference. But all moot because Evergreen won't be in the Elite division. Evergreen is the club kids settle for when they can't make an elite team and/or for when Loudoun parents don't want to drive past Leesburg for practices.


Dude you are a schmuck.


Why, because he doesn't agree with you and the other Evergreen shill's on here who are propping up a rec level travel team as "Elite"?

Not exactly a convincing retort on the 3d/Cavs question. By the way, any facts on why 3d imploded? Seems like 2022 had the biggest exodus but you also had a bunch of 2021 and 2023 3d kids leave. I know Steven Brooks left and some say Ford is a D-bag (no first hand knowledge on that point) but that alone can't be it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The BW owner prefers raping 14 yr. girls and then threatening to kill them. If you don't believe me, read it yourself:

Can anyone confirm that the Blackwolf owner is this same guy in this article? 26 years old with a 15 year old girl at a school. And people really want to talk about the Madlax owner yelling at kids and mean emails? I guess you all do not care because you have boys?


That's an old story and well known. Why are you posting this on every forum?

Well its a new story to me and I find it 10000% nuts that a guy with this on his record can have a team or every coach at a high school. He was 26 years old not 18 and one day. This keeps you out of working for the Gov. how the He!! can he work around anyones kids ever. The system is broken so I think it should me posted over and over again tell he is no longer working with anyone child.!


Let's be honest. This is not a new story to you. It obviously bothers you which is why you post it periodically (and multiple times in the last 24 hours).
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not exactly a convincing retort on the 3d/Cavs question. By the way, any facts on why 3d imploded? Seems like 2022 had the biggest exodus but you also had a bunch of 2021 and 2023 3d kids leave. I know Steven Brooks left and some say Ford is a D-bag (no first hand knowledge on that point) but that alone can't be it.


The rise of Evergreen and Club Blue coming to VA are big factors

Rise of Evergreen. LOL.


Can anyone confirm that the BW owner is this same guy in this article? 26 years old with a 15 year old girl at a school. And people really want to talk about the Madlax owner yelling at kids and mean emails? I guess you all do not care because you have boys?[/quote]

That's an old story and well known. Why are you posting this on every forum?[/quote]
Well its a new story to me and I find it 10000% nuts that a guy with this on his record can have a team or every coach at a high school. He was 26 years old not 18 and one day. This keeps you out of working for the Gov. how the He!! can he work around anyones kids ever. The system is broken so I think it should me posted over and over again tell he is no longer working with anyone child.!
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Let's be honest. This is not a new story to you. It obviously bothers you which is why you post it periodically (and multiple times in the last 24 hours).
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Ok..To the rest of us..Is this True or some character assassination by someone that doesnt like him?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The BW owner prefers raping 14 yr. girls and then threatening to kill them. If you don't believe me, read it yourself:

Can anyone confirm that the Blackwolf owner is this same guy in this article? 26 years old with a 15 year old girl at a school. And people really want to talk about the Madlax owner yelling at kids and mean emails? I guess you all do not care because you have boys?


That's an old story and well known. Why are you posting this on every forum?

Well its a new story to me and I find it 10000% nuts that a guy with this on his record can have a team or every coach at a high school. He was 26 years old not 18 and one day. This keeps you out of working for the Gov. how the He!! can he work around anyones kids ever. The system is broken so I think it should me posted over and over again tell he is no longer working with anyone child.!


Let's be honest. This is not a new story to you. It obviously bothers you which is why you post it periodically (and multiple times in the last 24 hours).


This is new to me. Another guy posted the link and I read the link. Then you are correct I pushed it out to the other pages. I am in shock that if this is true we all let him get to where he is. I have no shame saying it bothers me and my real question is how the he!! does this not bother YOU!!
We need to stay on point here. The owner of BW has not affiliation with Evergreen therefore it does not need to be discussed on this board.
Aren't Evergeen and Black Wolf merging?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not exactly a convincing retort on the 3d/Cavs question. By the way, any facts on why 3d imploded? Seems like 2022 had the biggest exodus but you also had a bunch of 2021 and 2023 3d kids leave. I know Steven Brooks left and some say Ford is a D-bag (no first hand knowledge on that point) but that alone can't be it.


The rise of Evergreen and Club Blue coming to VA are big factors




Steven Brooks is now running a clinic at Evergreen. They did not take any 2023 kids from 3D just 2022
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The BW owner prefers raping 14 yr. girls and then threatening to kill them. If you don't believe me, read it yourself:

Can anyone confirm that the Blackwolf owner is this same guy in this article? 26 years old with a 15 year old girl at a school. And people really want to talk about the Madlax owner yelling at kids and mean emails? I guess you all do not care because you have boys?


That's an old story and well known. Why are you posting this on every forum?

Well its a new story to me and I find it 10000% nuts that a guy with this on his record can have a team or every coach at a high school. He was 26 years old not 18 and one day. This keeps you out of working for the Gov. how the He!! can he work around anyones kids ever. The system is broken so I think it should me posted over and over again tell he is no longer working with anyone child.!


Let's be honest. This is not a new story to you. It obviously bothers you which is why you post it periodically (and multiple times in the last 24 hours).


This is new to me. Another guy posted the link and I read the link. Then you are correct I pushed it out to the other pages. I am in shock that if this is true we all let him get to where he is. I have no shame saying it bothers me and my real question is how the he!! does this not bother YOU!!


Its easy. Pick another club. Move on. Next.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The BW owner prefers raping 14 yr. girls and then threatening to kill them. If you don't believe me, read it yourself:

Can anyone confirm that the Blackwolf owner is this same guy in this article? 26 years old with a 15 year old girl at a school. And people really want to talk about the Madlax owner yelling at kids and mean emails? I guess you all do not care because you have boys?


That's an old story and well known. Why are you posting this on every forum?

Well its a new story to me and I find it 10000% nuts that a guy with this on his record can have a team or every coach at a high school. He was 26 years old not 18 and one day. This keeps you out of working for the Gov. how the He!! can he work around anyones kids ever. The system is broken so I think it should me posted over and over again tell he is no longer working with anyone child.!


Let's be honest. This is not a new story to you. It obviously bothers you which is why you post it periodically (and multiple times in the last 24 hours).


This is new to me. Another guy posted the link and I read the link. Then you are correct I pushed it out to the other pages. I am in shock that if this is true we all let him get to where he is. I have no shame saying it bothers me and my real question is how the he!! does this not bother YOU!!


Its easy. Pick another club. Move on. Next.


Doesn't bother me either. Would I let my son play for that guy if he was good enough? No. Am I going to raise a fuss if others do? No.
Half the coaches in Club and Rec probably have skeletons that are better left hidden, though I will admit this is about as big and bad a skeleton as can be imagined.
I know who you are and you are crazy.
Evergreen? Another 2nd tier club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen? Another 2nd tier club.


2nd tier is generous. What tournaments have they been in? How long have they even existed?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know who you are and you are crazy.

This is fun. Give me more details about me lets see if you are correct?
Evergreen should be vastly improved. Call them 2022 3D if you want. New coach and half of 3D will make a huge difference.
Nobody cares, Evergreen dad. The club and all its teams suck. Just because they are coached by a great player and recent grad doesn't make up for the weak talent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody cares, Evergreen dad. The club and all its teams suck. Just because they are coached by a great player and recent grad doesn't make up for the weak talent.

I guess it depends on the definition of "vastly improved". If you are the Cleveland Browns and go from 0-16 to 3-13, that's "vastly improved". Evergreen is not even the best club in Leesburg [Cavs]. Evergreen is definitely trending up but still has a long way to go. If you want to say 2022 will be Evergreen's best MS team, fine but that is not saying much if what I am hearing about 2023 and 2024 is correct.
Understand that HoCo is considering going to a Super Elite bracket that will have only the very top top 2022 teams. Hawks, DCExpress, Dukes, RR, T91 and Evergreen are sure bets.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Understand that HoCo is considering going to a Super Elite bracket that will have only the very top top 2022 teams. Hawks, DCExpress, Dukes, RR, T91 and Evergreen are sure bets.


API not in the mix?
OK understand some but not other. I have never heard of Evergreen? RR over Crabs or FCA? Did not know RR was good
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK understand some but not other. I have never heard of Evergreen? RR over Crabs or FCA? Did not know RR was good


You don't know the 22's very well then.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK understand some but not other. I have never heard of Evergreen? RR over Crabs or FCA? Did not know RR was good


Evergreen is the DC Express of VA - from unknown club to national contenders

evergreen will be good but not better than madlax or a lot of other clubs
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Understand that HoCo is considering going to a Super Elite bracket that will have only the very top top 2022 teams. Hawks, DCExpress, Dukes, RR, T91 and Evergreen are sure bets.

Evergreen will be the favorite in this bracket
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK understand some but not other. I have never heard of Evergreen? RR over Crabs or FCA? Did not know RR was good


You don't know the 22's very well then.



RR easily top 5 team if not top 3
Evergreen has to actually play someone good before you can boost that they will be at the top of an already stacked Elite group of teams. Fall Ball is a great way to prove all the smack talk.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Understand that HoCo is considering going to a Super Elite bracket that will have only the very top top 2022 teams. Hawks, DCExpress, Dukes, RR, T91 and Evergreen are sure bets.

Evergreen will be the favorite in this bracket



Evergreen and DC Express has to prove themselves before beating their chests.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Understand that HoCo is considering going to a Super Elite bracket that will have only the very top top 2022 teams. Hawks, DCExpress, Dukes, RR, T91 and Evergreen are sure bets.

Evergreen will be the favorite in this bracket

This guy is one of the more persistent and humorous trolls on here. He doesn't even take himself seriously, so don't sweat it. Good bet the HoCo competition committee won't even let Evergreen in the elite division. D.C. Express is Bethesda, so yes they will be good, as will Hawks, RR, 91, Crabs, and FCA. We'll see about API and Koopers and/or Dukes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen has to actually play someone good before you can boost that they will be at the top of an already stacked Elite group of teams. Fall Ball is a great way to prove all the smack talk.


I would not even draw conclusions in the fall. Rather, let's give it a year and assess the results. Lots of turnover it seems on most teams. Whether the newbies meld with the holdovers from the prior years team, will be a test of coaching and the willingness of kids to be coachable. I'm excited for everyone, and hope that everyone is competitive. I don't like 6-0 teams nor 0-6 teams. I like it when you go to a 2022 game and see these kids really emerging into "real" lacrosse players with skills, IQ and drive to convince observers that they will be the next generation of kids to watch in the upcoming high school years.
Evergreen 2022 will not even beat the other 2022 team in Leesburg. Cavs 2022 would win by at least 3 goals. Until you can be Best In Leesburg, probably better to remain silent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen 2022 will not even beat the other 2022 team in Leesburg. Cavs 2022 would win by at least 3 goals. Until you can be Best In Leesburg, probably better to remain silent.



Please start a Virginia page bc these posts are terrible. Leesburg lacrosse is as interesting to a Marylander as Guatemalan Ice Hockey is to a Canadian
All these new teams popping up Evergreen,Cavs Leesburg etc. the B team division in HOCo looks solid API will have their hands full come spring time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK understand some but not other. I have never heard of Evergreen? RR over Crabs or FCA? Did not know RR was good


You don't know the 22's very well then.



RR easily top 5 team if not top 3



Rr 2022 coaches by Bayhawks coach Brian Reese and ESPN announcer Mark Dixon. Team is solid. Possibly the last team with only local kids to beat Hawks.

On March 12, 2017, API beat 3D MidAtlantic by 10 goals at MD Soccerplex (13-3). 3D did not win a game that day. So, half this 3D team (not the top half) combines with 2nd/3rd string Cavs players at Evergreen and you now have a powerhouse????? Good luck in not finishing last in the B division.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Understand that HoCo is considering going to a Super Elite bracket that will have only the very top top 2022 teams. Hawks, DCExpress, Dukes, RR, T91 and Evergreen are sure bets.


API not in the mix?


Hawks grabbed best players from API this year. No chance of making any noise.

Hawks have had the best kids from 2015 npyll champion cannons for 2 years and now they have the best kids from the 2015 hoco Champs Diamondbacks.

Hawks know how to recruit.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buggs hasn't coach in a elite league . He drops teams down..



Not sure where you get information from. Buggs has coached several elite teams at the older levels and has had success . He is also heavily involved in the lax community and has been with Warrior from the very beginning. API will not drop down. He is highly qualified to coach that team. As far as the sideline losers its just unfortunate the rest of us will have to put up with it for another year. Hopefully they will let this coach teach their kids something and embarrass themselves or kids like every other year.


Have another cup of API cool-aid.
Buggs is a complete joke of a coach a bad example for teenage boys. He acts like a child often himself.
Once showed up to coach his team halfway through the game when he showed up late after a night of drinking.
Maybe if he can separate his personal life from his work life he can strive to be something more than a glorified figurehead.


For those of us not "in the know", when did Buggs Combs show up late to a game and how do you know it was due to his drinking and staying out late at night? Was this a recent occurrence or are you simply digging up his past for your own purposes? By the way, were you or your family ever affiliated with API? I am not, but wonder what motivates people on this forum to being so viciously mean-spirited.


I remember this. Several years ago. Beach Lax. Parents had to step in and coach until he and Asst. Coach showed up. Hopefully he has matured since then.


Hammel is showing up as the 2025 coach so it looks like it is all Buggs team now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Understand that HoCo is considering going to a Super Elite bracket that will have only the very top top 2022 teams. Hawks, DCExpress, Dukes, RR, T91 and Evergreen are sure bets.


API not in the mix?


Hawks grabbed best players from API this year. No chance of making any noise.

Hawks have had the best kids from 2015 npyll champion cannons for 2 years and now they have the best kids from the 2015 hoco Champs Diamondbacks.

Hawks know how to recruit.




Thanks, Fogo Dad!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Understand that HoCo is considering going to a Super Elite bracket that will have only the very top top 2022 teams. Hawks, DCExpress, Dukes, RR, T91 and Evergreen are sure bets.


API not in the mix?


Hawks grabbed best players from API this year. No chance of making any noise.

Hawks have had the best kids from 2015 npyll champion cannons for 2 years and now they have the best kids from the 2015 hoco Champs Diamondbacks.

Hawks know how to recruit.



Or maybe their just a relatively isolated team that does not have to compete for the talent pool.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Understand that HoCo is considering going to a Super Elite bracket that will have only the very top top 2022 teams. Hawks, DCExpress, Dukes, RR, T91 and Evergreen are sure bets.


API not in the mix?


Hawks grabbed best players from API this year. No chance of making any noise.

Hawks have had the best kids from 2015 npyll champion cannons for 2 years and now they have the best kids from the 2015 hoco Champs Diamondbacks.

Hawks know how to recruit.



Or maybe their just a relatively isolated team that does not have to compete for the talent pool.


Other than API, Cannons, Sidewinders, Peninsula, Storm, MD Wild, Rockfish, Snappers, Prime, ......
Tenacious Turtles putting together all star team to compete in Dicks TOC. Anyone else going?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tenacious Turtles putting together all star team to compete in Dicks TOC. Anyone else going?




There is only one Tenacious Turtles team, and they are now in college.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Buggs hasn't coach in a elite league . He drops teams down..



Not sure where you get information from. Buggs has coached several elite teams at the older levels and has had success . He is also heavily involved in the lax community and has been with Warrior from the very beginning. API will not drop down. He is highly qualified to coach that team. As far as the sideline losers its just unfortunate the rest of us will have to put up with it for another year. Hopefully they will let this coach teach their kids something and embarrass themselves or kids like every other year.


Have another cup of API cool-aid.
Buggs is a complete joke of a coach a bad example for teenage boys. He acts like a child often himself.
Once showed up to coach his team halfway through the game when he showed up late after a night of drinking.
Maybe if he can separate his personal life from his work life he can strive to be something more than a glorified figurehead.


For those of us not "in the know", when did Buggs Combs show up late to a game and how do you know it was due to his drinking and staying out late at night? Was this a recent occurrence or are you simply digging up his past for your own purposes? By the way, were you or your family ever affiliated with API? I am not, but wonder what motivates people on this forum to being so viciously mean-spirited.


I remember this. Several years ago. Beach Lax. Parents had to step in and coach until he and Asst. Coach showed up. Hopefully he has matured since then.


Hammel is showing up as the 2025 coach so it looks like it is all Buggs team now.


My kid is on the api 2022 team, and I can guarantee you that Hammel is 100% running the team this year just like he was last year.
Who cares about all this API and Maryland stuff? Evergreen 2022 is the new sheriff in town. Evergreen 2022 -Madlax Capital 2022 scrimmage on 10/1 at noon at Evergreen. Come watch the changing of the guard.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about all this API and Maryland stuff? Evergreen 2022 is the new sheriff in town. Evergreen 2022 -Madlax Capital 2022 scrimmage on 10/1 at noon at Evergreen. Come watch the changing of the guard.


Hi, Madlax dad!
Have you guys heard of the new club Frumunda Lax? They are definitely better than Evergreen.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tenacious Turtles putting together all star team to compete in Dicks TOC. Anyone else going?




There is only one Tenacious Turtles team, and they are now in college.


they started back up w youngins

https://turtleslax.com/
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about all this API and Maryland stuff? Evergreen 2022 is the new sheriff in town. Evergreen 2022 -Madlax Capital 2022 scrimmage on 10/1 at noon at Evergreen. Come watch the changing of the guard.


Hi, Madlax dad!



Can you just film it for us so we dont have to drive to bum f ck to watch the first scrimmage of the year. Thanks
post a link right here so we can get in on the hype.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen has to actually play someone good before you can boost that they will be at the top of an already stacked Elite group of teams. Fall Ball is a great way to prove all the smack talk.


I would not even draw conclusions in the fall. Rather, let's give it a year and assess the results. Lots of turnover it seems on most teams. Whether the newbies meld with the holdovers from the prior years team, will be a test of coaching and the willingness of kids to be coachable. I'm excited for everyone, and hope that everyone is competitive. I don't like 6-0 teams nor 0-6 teams. I like it when you go to a 2022 game and see these kids really emerging into "real" lacrosse players with skills, IQ and drive to convince observers that they will be the next generation of kids to watch in the upcoming high school years.



Well said !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clubs can't spend the time developing players you kool aid drinker... they have to win and work on team plays and such. Wins gets kids to tryouts. The good kids have natural talent and size at this age. They also work on their own. Clubs don't develop anything more than marketing materials and uniforms. Parents develop kids and coaches help in small pieces. Clubs, collect money and pay bills. 90% of club coaches success comes from recruiting the best kids, not developing them. In HS and college they develop.


and that is why Crabs is imploding right now....


I was getting ready to say exactly the same thing, and then I scrolled down to see you beat me to it!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
MM team locked and loaded


And ready for another run at being best team again in country lead by the attack!



Really Mac, promoting yourself! You are not the best attack in the country! Your are selfish and a ball hog. Daddy sets every play up so you get the ball and can attempt to score with your horrible sidearm shot. The team would have done much better if you learned to pass the ball and be a team player not a self promoter!


OMG. Saw this on 2023 Crabs as well.
Big reason why many kids left.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about all this API and Maryland stuff? Evergreen 2022 is the new sheriff in town. Evergreen 2022 -Madlax Capital 2022 scrimmage on 10/1 at noon at Evergreen. Come watch the changing of the guard.


Cant make it. Thats a college prospect and college camp day so our teams are taking their kids to play there. But best of luck.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....


Crabs is still the best at putting together teams for recruiting visibility in high school. Not so good at working with developing elementary and middle schoolers.


Agreed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]A number left because they did not want to play for coach of 2022 Crabs. His shtick worked 4 or 5 years ago when Crabs was only game in town but now with a number of strong programs in the area kids/families have other options and don't have to put up with that....


Crabs is still the best at putting together teams for recruiting visibility in high school. Not so good at working with developing elementary and middle schoolers.


Putting up with bad coaching and verbal insults for 2 or 3 tournements over 2 summer months in order to get excellent visibility is worth doing in high school. Putting up with it year round for no visibility in middle school doesn't work.


RM is better suited to coaching the HS teams.
He threatened to f*cking rip a jersey off a 6th-Grader last year. Classy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tenacious Turtles putting together all star team to compete in Dicks TOC. Anyone else going?




There is only one Tenacious Turtles team, and they are now in college.


they started back up w youngins

https://turtleslax.com/



I know. Nothing wrong with that, but don't call them the Turtles. There is only one team that can be called the Turtles.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about all this API and Maryland stuff? Evergreen 2022 is the new sheriff in town. Evergreen 2022 -Madlax Capital 2022 scrimmage on 10/1 at noon at Evergreen. Come watch the changing of the guard.


This is hysterical. Win a game this spring in the big boy division before you start touting a glorified rec program as the "new sheriff in town".
The kid that left API to go to the HAWKS is a good player but he just made a bad decision . How do you give up playing 80 to 90 percent of the game for a good team .To go to the Hawks and play less makes no sense. I guess that's why he got it for free.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about all this API and Maryland stuff? Evergreen 2022 is the new sheriff in town. Evergreen 2022 -Madlax Capital 2022 scrimmage on 10/1 at noon at Evergreen. Come watch the changing of the guard.


This is hysterical. Win a game this spring in the big boy division before you start touting a glorified rec program as the "new sheriff in town".


Sounds like Bitmore renamed as evergreen and in va.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about all this API and Maryland stuff? Evergreen 2022 is the new sheriff in town. Evergreen 2022 -Madlax Capital 2022 scrimmage on 10/1 at noon at Evergreen. Come watch the changing of the guard.


This is hysterical. Win a game this spring in the big boy division before you start touting a glorified rec program as the "new sheriff in town".


Sounds like Bitmore renamed as evergreen and in va.

Unlike the other team in Leesburg, at least Evergreen is willing to go out and challenge themselves by playing a team like Madlax Capital. Never see that other Leesburg team do that. They prefer to "support" local weakling teams by beating them every year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kid that left API to go to the HAWKS is a good player but he just made a bad decision . How do you give up playing 80 to 90 percent of the game for a good team .To go to the Hawks and play less makes no sense. I guess that's why he got it for free.

Please give me the list of TOP D1 kids signing out of API? Then give me a list of top D1 kids out of Hawks? I think his choice could prove to be correct.
So after they break up the 12.5 scholarships for the "top D1" kids you get....... $5000 maybe? LOL. Forest from the trees boys. Grades and Fun better be your montra.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kid that left API to go to the HAWKS is a good player but he just made a bad decision . How do you give up playing 80 to 90 percent of the game for a good team .To go to the Hawks and play less makes no sense. I guess that's why he got it for free.

Please give me the list of TOP D1 kids signing out of API? Then give me a list of top D1 kids out of Hawks? I think his choice could prove to be correct.


Not is playing time is reduce.................I rather my son play for a lesser time and play often then play for a better team and ride the bench.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kid that left API to go to the HAWKS is a good player but he just made a bad decision . How do you give up playing 80 to 90 percent of the game for a good team .To go to the Hawks and play less makes no sense. I guess that's why he got it for free.

Please give me the list of TOP D1 kids signing out of API? Then give me a list of top D1 kids out of Hawks? I think his choice could prove to be correct.


Not is playing time is reduce.................I rather my son play for a lesser time and play often then play for a better team and ride the bench.


My momma says that alligators are so ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kid that left API to go to the HAWKS is a good player but he just made a bad decision . How do you give up playing 80 to 90 percent of the game for a good team .To go to the Hawks and play less makes no sense. I guess that's why he got it for free.

Please give me the list of TOP D1 kids signing out of API? Then give me a list of top D1 kids out of Hawks? I think his choice could prove to be correct.


Not is playing time is reduce.................I rather my son play for a lesser time and play often then play for a better team and ride the bench.

You have to be seen. And Hawks play with the big boys. Also if they are winning more and he play O he will have the ball to look good.
Do all the Hawks kids get a free ride or just former api kids that go to the Hawks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kid that left API to go to the HAWKS is a good player but he just made a bad decision . How do you give up playing 80 to 90 percent of the game for a good team .To go to the Hawks and play less makes no sense. I guess that's why he got it for free.



Middies shouldn't be playing 80-90%.

Sounds like he's on a team that will use him correctly and maximize his time on the field.

I heard his dad founded Hawks many years ago with hogan for his older son to play on. Then there was a falling out. Good to see they reconciled.

API and Hawks both suck. Nothing but trash from the armpit of MD.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So after they break up the 12.5 scholarships for the "top D1" kids you get....... $5000 maybe? LOL. Forest from the trees boys. Grades and Fun better be your montra.



It's "Forest for the trees." And the word is "mantra," not "montra." I'm sorry, but the illiteracy on here is just too much.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about all this API and Maryland stuff? Evergreen 2022 is the new sheriff in town. Evergreen 2022 -Madlax Capital 2022 scrimmage on 10/1 at noon at Evergreen. Come watch the changing of the guard.


This is hysterical. Win a game this spring in the big boy division before you start touting a glorified rec program as the "new sheriff in town".


Sounds like Bitmore renamed as evergreen and in va.

Unlike the other team in Leesburg, at least Evergreen is willing to go out and challenge themselves by playing a team like Madlax Capital. Never see that other Leesburg team do that. They prefer to "support" local weakling teams by beating them every year.

I understand the start time for the game is moved to 12:30 for the college coaches that plan to attend this game now being billed as "the Battle of Leesburg" get there early as parking may be an issue. They have food available at the evergreen sports complex. I plan to get there at 10:00am to tailgate.
Cavs and 3d Mid Atlantic are good feeder programs for Evergreen.
Cavs,3D Mid and Evergreen should be one club one team and they would be fun to watch and play for. But the egos of rich white people is in full effect.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs,3D Mid and Evergreen should be one club one team and they would be fun to watch and play for. But the egos of rich white people is in full effect.



They would still be terrible compared to BW, VLC and Madlax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs,3D Mid and Evergreen should be one club one team and they would be fun to watch and play for. But the egos of rich white people is in full effect.



They would still be terrible compared to BW, VLC and Madlax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about all this API and Maryland stuff? Evergreen 2022 is the new sheriff in town. Evergreen 2022 -Madlax Capital 2022 scrimmage on 10/1 at noon at Evergreen. Come watch the changing of the guard.


This is hysterical. Win a game this spring in the big boy division before you start touting a glorified rec program as the "new sheriff in town".


Sounds like Bitmore renamed as evergreen and in va.

Unlike the other team in Leesburg, at least Evergreen is willing to go out and challenge themselves by playing a team like Madlax Capital. Never see that other Leesburg team do that. They prefer to "support" local weakling teams by beating them every year.

I understand the start time for the game is moved to 12:30 for the college coaches that plan to attend this game now being billed as "the Battle of Leesburg" get there early as parking may be an issue. They have food available at the evergreen sports complex. I plan to get there at 10:00am to tailgate.



I can't believe Madlax agreed to play Evergreen. What a waste of time and gas for the Madlax kids.
Who is playing in the FCA play day at Calvert Hall on Oct. 29?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is playing in the FCA play day at Calvert Hall on Oct. 29?



FCA
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is playing in the FCA play day at Calvert Hall on Oct. 29?



FCA


That is correct, the FCA holdbacks vs. the FCA non holdbacks. Could be an interesting game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is playing in the FCA play day at Calvert Hall on Oct. 29?



FCA


That is correct, the FCA holdbacks vs. the FCA non holdbacks. Could be an interesting game.



Same day as Battle on the Bay. Not many top teams left to play at Calvert hall.



What is battle of the bay
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is battle of the bay


Biggest fall tourney at Chesapeake high (aa county). Run by Loyola's Toomey

Best LI teams and many out of state teams last year.
FCA play day is the 8th
Battle of the Bay is 29th
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FCA play day is the 8th
Battle of the Bay is 29th


Different play day. Possibly Hawks vs fca on 8th.

Very funny how Hawks give free rides to new kids that they have been recruiting for a year while kids who have been there 3,4, and 5 years are paying full prices and sweating it out all season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very funny how Hawks give free rides to new kids that they have been recruiting for a year while kids who have been there 3,4, and 5 years are paying full prices and sweating it out all season.



Who got a free ride?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very funny how Hawks give free rides to new kids that they have been recruiting for a year while kids who have been there 3,4, and 5 years are paying full prices and sweating it out all season.



Who got a free ride?



New middie/fogo from API. Dad has history with hogan.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very funny how Hawks give free rides to new kids that they have been recruiting for a year while kids who have been there 3,4, and 5 years are paying full prices and sweating it out all season.



Are you that much of an idiot? Do you not know that in life, people can be treated fairly, but rarely equally. Some kids are more important than others. That's why people at work usually make different salaries. Some are deemed more valuable that others.

Life is a meritocracy. Some kids are on the team and pay full freight. Others pay less because they need the help. Others get help because they are deemed too valuable to lose. Get over yourself, dude.
And 6 or 7 are there to subsidize the rest
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And 6 or 7 are there to subsidize the rest


If you don't like it, play somewhere else. There are no shortages of clubs to choose from.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very funny how Hawks give free rides to new kids that they have been recruiting for a year while kids who have been there 3,4, and 5 years are paying full prices and sweating it out all season.



Who got a free ride?



New middie/fogo from API. Dad has history with hogan.



I bet the other fogo dad isn't happy about this one bit. Please post a practice and game schedule. I want to watch this sideline this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous



Who got a free ride?



New middie/fogo from API. Dad has history with hogan.



You are an ignorant [lacrosse] for calling out this player. You have no clue what the family's situation is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very funny how Hawks give free rides to new kids that they have been recruiting for a year while kids who have been there 3,4, and 5 years are paying full prices and sweating it out all season.



Who got a free ride?



New middie/fogo from API. Dad has history with hogan.



Doubtful, he is getting a reduced ride, no way he is getting a free ride.
Daddy makes enough money .. free ride that was the deal to come over
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Daddy makes enough money .. free ride that was the deal to come over


That is what daddy has been telling everyone free to go to the Hawks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Daddy makes enough money .. free ride that was the deal to come over


That is what daddy has been telling everyone free to go to the Hawks


Jealous!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Daddy makes enough money .. free ride that was the deal to come over


That is what daddy has been telling everyone free to go to the Hawks


Jealous!


Giving free rides to opposition kids is poaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very funny how Hawks give free rides to new kids that they have been recruiting for a year while kids who have been there 3,4, and 5 years are paying full prices and sweating it out all season.



Who got a free ride?



New middie/fogo from API. Dad has history with hogan.



I bet the other fogo dad isn't happy about this one bit. Please post a practice and game schedule. I want to watch this sideline this year.




Bitter parents on this site are too funny. Who is sweating it out? Sounds like the only one sweating anything is the person calling out specific kids and trying to bash other kids all in one post about a team they don't even belong to. Stop swinging from their nuts and just be patient. You will see them soon enough and the sideline will be the exact same as every year. You and your fellow daddies with be trolling and acting like idiots on the sideline while your team gets dominated. Now thats funny!
Can't wait until evergreen plays in the tournaments they are the best team in the Area if not country
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Daddy makes enough money .. free ride that was the deal to come over


That is what daddy has been telling everyone free to go to the Hawks



API daddy hating again on the Hawks. This is really something else. Do you really think any one thinks you speak the truth or are to be taken seriously.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can't wait until evergreen plays in the tournaments they are the best team in the Area if not country



Everyone can't wait !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can't wait until evergreen plays in the tournaments they are the best team in the Area if not country

Does anyone know where they are playing this fall? They seem to be winning the off season
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can't wait until evergreen plays in the tournaments they are the best team in the Area if not country

Does anyone know where they are playing this fall? They seem to be winning the off season



Don't know but heard that Hopkins and Maryland are ducking them.
Evergreen
You better get past cannons, lax factory , or the single A teams before calling out the double A big boys . This is Lacrosse not landscaping theirs not a good team that comes from Leesburg . Sorry you don't want the Maryland big boys .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can't wait until evergreen plays in the tournaments they are the best team in the Area if not country



Everyone can't wait !


You can't be a 3D or Cavs parent talking this craziness because you haven't played in the big boy division yet. You gotta get past Madlax first and Can't wait for that play date.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can't wait until evergreen plays in the tournaments they are the best team in the Area if not country

Does anyone know where they are playing this fall? They seem to be winning the off season



Don't know but heard that Hopkins and Maryland are ducking them.


False Report. Tillman and Petro both wanted to play them. Both Md and Hop players refused! Afraid what they would look like playing Evergreen. This team is for real people. Heard it here first
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can't wait until evergreen plays in the tournaments they are the best team in the Area if not country

Does anyone know where they are playing this fall? They seem to be winning the off season



Don't know but heard that Hopkins and Maryland are ducking them.


False Report. Tillman and Petro both wanted to play them. Both Md and Hop players refused! Afraid what they would look like playing Evergreen. This team is for real people. Heard it here first

IL Pre-season Scouting Report on Evergreen 2022: "Evergreen plays a brand of lacrosse not seen in the HOCO elite division. Their level of play will cause games to be decided in the first 10 minutes and you will not forget seeing the green and black."
I am very impressed with the PR department over at Evergreen. Marketing 101 says have them know your name. And even if these claims of greatness are way off people now know they are a lacrosse team. Before you can be with the big dogs you have to get them to look at you. And when they lose by 10 goals no one will think twice. But if they find a way to keep this Madlax game within 4 goals the hype train will be rolling. Kudos to Evergreen for knowing how this works.
When is Evergreen having a play day and hosting all the big boy elite teams? We always looking for better competition
Where are the '22 elite teams and Evergreen playing this fall, or is it a secret?
If they don't play and destroy hawks express crabs it's only cause though those teams are too scared
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier


They will be close with Madlax and destroy club blue and VLC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier


They will be close with Madlax and destroy club blue and VLC

No way Evergreen 2022 beats Cavs 2022. Should be easy to arrange in view of the proximity of the programs.
What teams really got better in the off season? Besides of course Evergreen.
When is the Evergreen fall tournament? They have the best team, the best venue.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When is the Evergreen fall tournament? They have the best team, the best venue.

I heard they are planning a spring tournament with all the top teams that is scheduled for Feb. 30th 2018.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier


They will be close with Madlax and destroy club blue and VLC


No, they won't. They would get smoked by any real AAA club because they're a glorified rec program disguised as A/B level club, just like 3D did.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
18-6. Never forget.

Please let the rest of us forget. Please!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
18-6. Never forget.

Please let the rest of us forget. Please!


Doubt API or Hawks will play each other this year. Is API staying at the elite level this year or have they been replace by Evergreen?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier


They will be close with Madlax and destroy club blue and VLC


No, they won't. They would get smoked by any real AAA club because they're a glorified rec program disguised as A/B level club, just like 3D did.


AAA Club?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier


They will be close with Madlax and destroy club blue and VLC

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier
come on don't knock them down, they haven't played a game with the big boys and
They will be close with Madlax and destroy club blue and VLC

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier


They will be close with Madlax and destroy club blue and VLC

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier


They will be close with Madlax and destroy club blue and VLC



Don't knock them down, they haven't played with the big boys but are already claiming to be the top dogs. I look forward to seeing them play. Good luck Evergreen, whoever is posting this stuff is writing checks hopefully the team can cash in on. Some call this good PR, this is bad because the kids on the field are going to cash in on these statements. Ouch
maybe API kids can fly to Leesburg and play for Evergreen, no jet lag issues for the rest of summer that way
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier


They will be close with Madlax and destroy club blue and VLC

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier
come on don't knock them down, they haven't played a game with the big boys and
They will be close with Madlax and destroy club blue and VLC

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier


They will be close with Madlax and destroy club blue and VLC

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen will be 4 th in nova behind madlax, club blue, and VLC ahead of top cal and cavalier


They will be close with Madlax and destroy club blue and VLC



Don't knock them down, they haven't played with the big boys but are already claiming to be the top dogs. I look forward to seeing them play. Good luck Evergreen, whoever is posting this stuff is writing checks hopefully the team can cash in on. Some call this good PR, this is bad because the kids on the field are going to cash in on these statements. Ouch



100% sure that the kids on the field do not care the least bit about posting on BOTC. The PR is good because there are almost 20K views on this link. Until this year 95% who visit this sight has no clue who Evergreen was. I am sure many additional visits to the evergreen website resulted which may have even led to Madlax agreeing to play them. I think this is a first.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Daddy makes enough money .. free ride that was the deal to come over


That is what daddy has been telling everyone free to go to the Hawks


The Hawks were a great team last season. They added a young man who was selected 1st team all world at his position. You also weaken a major rival by taking the heart and soul of the team away. You do what you have to when you are taking the next step as a team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Daddy makes enough money .. free ride that was the deal to come over


That is what daddy has been telling everyone free to go to the Hawks


The Hawks were a great team last season. They added a young man who was selected 1st team all world at his position. You also weaken a major rival by taking the heart and soul of the team away. You do what you have to when you are taking the next step as a team.



Any dad who talks about a kid - a KID - being "all world" at anything should be deported out of the country.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Daddy makes enough money .. free ride that was the deal to come over


That is what daddy has been telling everyone free to go to the Hawks


The Hawks were a great team last season. They added a young man who was selected 1st team all world at his position. You also weaken a major rival by taking the heart and soul of the team away. You do what you have to when you are taking the next step as a team.



Any dad who talks about a kid - a KID - being "all world" at anything should be deported out of the country.



Agreed 'all'world' does sound lame for a 13-14 yr old but it is not the parent that made that up . It was the WSYL .
I watched the Evergreen 2022 lacrosse team on you tube . They have very nice facilities but 2022 is not ready for the Maryland Big Boys (AA).Madlax will crush them . Evergreen better start off in HOCO as A team. Evergreen looks like rec team here in MD . I would stay in Leesburg
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I watched the Evergreen 2022 lacrosse team on you tube . They have very nice facilities but 2022 is not ready for the Maryland Big Boys (AA).Madlax will crush them . Evergreen better start off in HOCO as A team. Evergreen looks like rec team here in MD . I would stay in Leesburg


Thanks for posting what EVERYBODY already knows. I doubt it will keep the Evergreen shills away though...LOL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I watched the Evergreen 2022 lacrosse team on you tube . They have very nice facilities but 2022 is not ready for the Maryland Big Boys (AA).Madlax will crush them . Evergreen better start off in HOCO as A team. Evergreen looks like rec team here in MD . I would stay in Leesburg


Thanks for posting what EVERYBODY already knows. I doubt it will keep the Evergreen shills away though...LOL.

There is no YouTube video of this Evergreen 2022 Elite team. This is a newly assembled 2022 team from 3D and Cavs. The old 2022 team that you may have seen on YouTube was not great.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Daddy makes enough money .. free ride that was the deal to come over


That is what daddy has been telling everyone free to go to the Hawks


The Hawks were a great team last season. They added a young man who was selected 1st team all world at his position. You also weaken a major rival by taking the heart and soul of the team away. You do what you have to when you are taking the next step as a team.



Any dad who talks about a kid - a KID - being "all world" at anything should be deported out of the country.



Agreed 'all'world' does sound lame for a 13-14 yr old but it is not the parent that made that up . It was the WSYL .


Yep. The WSYL panel determined this.. All the API kids who made all world tried out for the Hawks. All desparate to get out. A few didn't even get offers
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Daddy makes enough money .. free ride that was the deal to come over


That is what daddy has been telling everyone free to go to the Hawks


The Hawks were a great team last season. They added a young man who was selected 1st team all world at his position. You also weaken a major rival by taking the heart and soul of the team away. You do what you have to when you are taking the next step as a team.



Any dad who talks about a kid - a KID - being "all world" at anything should be deported out of the country.



Agreed 'all'world' does sound lame for a 13-14 yr old but it is not the parent that made that up . It was the WSYL .


Yep. The WSYL panel determined this.. All the API kids who made all world tried out for the Hawks. All desparate to get out. A few didn't even get offers


All World? Too funny

Did you see some of the teams they played against? Good rec. teams
This Evergreen chatter is hilarious. If it is from an Evergreen player/parent/coach I would be surprised. More likely just trolling from another disgruntled club player/parent/coach. I doubt they will be any good but boy I hope the troll or trolls keep this up. It is very entertaining....This guy Anonymous seems to be an expert on many subjects! I hope to meet him some day!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This Evergreen chatter is hilarious. If it is from an Evergreen player/parent/coach I would be surprised. More likely just trolling from another disgruntled club player/parent/coach. I doubt they will be any good but boy I hope the troll or trolls keep this up. It is very entertaining....This guy Anonymous seems to be an expert on many subjects! I hope to meet him some day!

That is an interesting theory but does not hold up to the test of logic. Would there be such a thing as a "disgruntled" Evergreen player/parent? This would have then been some player/parent who was not good enough to make the team? I do not think they had "cuts." However, it could be a Madlax or Cav parent or club owner who wants to hype the club so that if they win the play date in October....and that is a big IF....they can have bragging rights??? I guess this argument is faulty as well. I think there are several Evergreen trolls and some live in MD. In any case I hope it continues as it is more interesting than reading about holdbacks and reclassing of 8th graders. I am now mildly interested in the result of the Evergreen Madlax game.
Api kid went to Hawks because it was free ..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This Evergreen chatter is hilarious. If it is from an Evergreen player/parent/coach I would be surprised. More likely just trolling from another disgruntled club player/parent/coach. I doubt they will be any good but boy I hope the troll or trolls keep this up. It is very entertaining....This guy Anonymous seems to be an expert on many subjects! I hope to meet him some day!

That is an interesting theory but does not hold up to the test of logic. Would there be such a thing as a "disgruntled" Evergreen player/parent? This would have then been some player/parent who was not good enough to make the team? I do not think they had "cuts." However, it could be a Madlax or Cav parent or club owner who wants to hype the club so that if they win the play date in October....and that is a big IF....they can have bragging rights??? I guess this argument is faulty as well. I think there are several Evergreen trolls and some live in MD. In any case I hope it continues as it is more interesting than reading about holdbacks and reclassing of 8th graders. I am now mildly interested in the result of the Evergreen Madlax game.

The holdback/reclass debate on Crabs/HOCO is boring. Middle school club lax helps prepare you for HS lax. HS is grade-based, nothing wrong with MS club lax being grade-based. Other MS sports (basketball, etc.) are grade-based. If you insist on age-based for your MS lax player, go play Rec.

Never met a disgruntled Evergreen parent. If your boy is not good enough for Evergeen, he should probably try baseball.

Evergreen ownership/staff must be behind some of these posts. Their website is nice and facility looks fantastic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api kid went to Hawks because it was free ..


the api kid that went to hawks did not pay to play at api either. his dad was spouting off about that all summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api kid went to Hawks because it was free ..


the api kid that went to hawks did not pay to play at api either. his dad was spouting off about that all summer.



Sounds like the dad is the only smart one on here, or maybe in all of club lacrosse.
Who cares if they paid or not. These API dads have nothing else to do but bash anything happening with the Hawks. Some people on here to give 2 cents about either team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api kid went to Hawks because it was free ..


not true
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api kid went to Hawks because it was free ..


the api kid that went to hawks did not pay to play at api either. his dad was spouting off about that all summer.


dads who live vicariously through their children say a lot of things that are not accurate
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api kid went to Hawks because it was free ..


the api kid that went to hawks did not pay to play at api either. his dad was spouting off about that all summer.


dads who live vicariously through their children say a lot of things that are not accurate

Evergreen has cool parents and the teams are thriving.
Evergreen is doing a great job of dominating this thread and promoting the Evergreen. Even keeping it classy and humorous. But tell us why you named your club Evergreen? Just sounds weird and blah. Mascot a tree? The band? Or just tying it to the in-house program of the facility? And where are you? Virginia right?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen is doing a great job of dominating this thread and promoting the Evergreen. Even keeping it classy and humorous. But tell us why you named your club Evergreen? Just sounds weird and blah. Mascot a tree? The band? Or just tying it to the in-house program of the facility? And where are you? Virginia right?

Name of the church the complex is built on. When you first pull it you will see the church on the right named Evergreen. Now I have no idea if the complex is labeled as a full business or has real church ties or not.
It's a way for a church to make money. Just like Word of Grace uses those fields and that church in Chantilly had the N-Zone (is that still around)?

Makes a lot of sense for churches to do use their property to make money renting it out for field space.

No idea about the church, but the talent in the club is dreadful. They are trying to make a splash, though. Talent pool out there is marginal, but they are taking advantage of 3d's collapse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Api kid went to Hawks because it was free ..


the api kid that went to hawks did not pay to play at api either. his dad was spouting off about that all summer.


dads who live vicariously through their children say a lot of things that are not accurate

Evergreen has cool parents and the teams are thriving.



At least be honest. Some parents are probably fine, but most of them are delusional, thinking that nice grandstands means the teams are good. They are terrible teams at Evergreen. They just got started and may get there, but unlikely given the weak talent pool out there.
Good God, all of this Evergreen crap has made this forum boring to read. Yawn.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's a way for a church to make money. Just like Word of Grace uses those fields and that church in Chantilly had the N-Zone (is that still around)?

Makes a lot of sense for churches to do use their property to make money renting it out for field space.

No idea about the church, but the talent in the club is dreadful. They are trying to make a splash, though. Talent pool out there is marginal, but they are taking advantage of 3d's collapse.


Cool story bro!!!

Hey Ricky...you and your guys finish washing our jockstraps yet? ---Cav's
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good God, all of this Evergreen crap has made this forum boring to read. Yawn.

I actually find it funny and new. The good news is that all of this may come to an end on 10/1 when they play MadLax. However, should this be a tight game or win for Evergreen? I expect even more from the Evergreen faithful. Evergreen does have great facilities, top level coaching from D1 and even MLL players, football and soccer programs. In the past the only thing missing was A level talent. The 2022 team moved from 3d and added some other talented players. This team did win HOCO AAA (not Elite) as was the strongest group from 3d. Can they beat the top Elite teams? No, However with the new coaching and additions to the team, they could be at the bottom end of the Elite group. This group also mostly plays together on the Evergreen Hammer's football program. Either way publicity will attract new players to look at the team. A win over MadLax will change the conversation.
Cavs and Evergreen both belong in port-a-johns.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good God, all of this Evergreen crap has made this forum boring to read. Yawn.

I actually find it funny and new. The good news is that all of this may come to an end on 10/1 when they play MadLax. However, should this be a tight game or win for Evergreen? I expect even more from the Evergreen faithful. Evergreen does have great facilities, top level coaching from D1 and even MLL players, football and soccer programs. In the past the only thing missing was A level talent. The 2022 team moved from 3d and added some other talented players. This team did win HOCO AAA (not Elite) as was the strongest group from 3d. Can they beat the top Elite teams? No, However with the new coaching and additions to the team, they could be at the bottom end of the Elite group. This group also mostly plays together on the Evergreen Hammer's football program. Either way publicity will attract new players to look at the team. A win over MadLax will change the conversation.



You need to be medicated. Evergreen sucks, and the kids know it. You can tell a terrible club when their parents say the stupidest things.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cavs and Evergreen both belong in port-a-johns.

That is just not true they are a great feeder system to Madlax, VLC and Blackwolf. Every high school in NOVA now has a Varsity lacrosse team. So these teams need kids to play for them. The more clubs the better for Public School lacrosse. But NOVA only has talent for 3 and a half top elite D1 some day teams. So EG will never be in the top 3 unless one of the others fold for another reason.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Understand that HoCo is considering going to a Super Elite bracket that will have only the very top top 2022 teams. Hawks, DCExpress, Dukes, RR, T91 and Evergreen are sure bets.

Evergreen will be the favorite in this bracket


That's a very bold statement! I cant wait to see this team play. From nowhere to AA Elite Champions over night? That's some serious off-season magic!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Daddy makes enough money .. free ride that was the deal to come over


That is what daddy has been telling everyone free to go to the Hawks


The Hawks were a great team last season. They added a young man who was selected 1st team all world at his position. You also weaken a major rival by taking the heart and soul of the team away. You do what you have to when you are taking the next step as a team.


What does "1st Team All-World" mean at 2022 club lacrosse? Are there some studs in Indonesia or Iceland competing for this title? How does an 8th grader make the 2022 All-World Team and who was sad enough to vote for it?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Daddy makes enough money .. free ride that was the deal to come over


That is what daddy has been telling everyone free to go to the Hawks


The Hawks were a great team last season. They added a young man who was selected 1st team all world at his position. You also weaken a major rival by taking the heart and soul of the team away. You do what you have to when you are taking the next step as a team.


What does "1st Team All-World" mean at 2022 club lacrosse? Are there some studs in Indonesia or Iceland competing for this title? How does an 8th grader make the 2022 All-World Team and who was sad enough to vote for it?



It is just the tournament team for wsyl. The best of the B teams that were suckered into going.

Can we all agree api(DBacks)was the best 3 grade team ever. Now in 8 grade not so much lost their better players and have not replace them. 7 kids from last years team has moved on to different teams. Maybe when API drops down to the B division they can bring back the Cannons/API rival. #3gradelaxdoesnotmeananytging.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we all agree api(DBacks)was the best 3 grade team ever. Now in 8 grade not so much lost their better players and have not replace them. 7 kids from last years team has moved on to different teams. Maybe when API drops down to the B division they can bring back the Cannons/API rival. #3gradelaxdoesnotmeananytging.

Heard their coach was 2nd team all-world that year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we all agree api(DBacks)was the best 3 grade team ever. Now in 8 grade not so much lost their better players and have not replace them. 7 kids from last years team has moved on to different teams. Maybe when API drops down to the B division they can bring back the Cannons/API rival. #3gradelaxdoesnotmeananytging.

#does8thgradelaxchampionshipmeananything? Once the kids get to HS all this will be forgotten. API is what they is. A solid team.
Woo hoo. Anonymous posting is back. Thanks BOTC!
Will Madlax vs. Evergreen be the new 18-6?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Woo hoo. Anonymous posting is back. Thanks BOTC!

I for one am going to keep my login the same links to each team
Evergreen v Madlax scrimmage on Sunday! High noon at Evergreen in Leesburg. Changing of the guard in NOVA lax!
What makes Madlax the top team in NOVA?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What makes Madlax the top team in NOVA?


Being able to beat everyone in the D.C. Area except for BLC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What makes Madlax the top team in NOVA?


Being able to beat everyone in the D.C. Area except for BLC.


BLC is not NOVA. But yes, Madlax by process of elimination:
Cavalier - no
VLC - no
3d - 2022 team disbanded
Evergreen - not even close
Battle lax - you have got to be kidding me
Etc
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What makes Madlax the top team in NOVA?


Being able to beat everyone in the D.C. Area except for BLC.


BLC is not NOVA. But yes, Madlax by process of elimination:
Cavalier - no
VLC - no
3d - 2022 team disbanded
Evergreen - not even close
Battle lax - you have got to be kidding me
Etc


Evergreen and all other 2022 teams in NoVA are glorified rec teams which is why they play the weak competition in HOCO and the weak summer tournaments.

BTW, the last time BLC 2022 and Madlax played an actual Spring HOCO game, Madlax won. Both are good teams and the talent and skill level isn't even comparable to the other 2022 clubs in the DC area.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What makes Madlax the top team in NOVA?


Being able to beat everyone in the D.C. Area except for BLC.


BLC is not NOVA. But yes, Madlax by process of elimination:
Cavalier - no
VLC - no
3d - 2022 team disbanded
Evergreen - not even close
Battle lax - you have got to be kidding me
Etc


Evergreen and all other 2022 teams in NoVA are glorified rec teams which is why they play the weak competition in HOCO and the weak summer tournaments.

BTW, the last time BLC 2022 and Madlax played an actual Spring HOCO game, Madlax won. Both are good teams and the talent and skill level isn't even comparable to the other 2022 clubs in the DC area.

Madlax and BLC have gone in opposite directions since 6th grade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What makes Madlax the top team in NOVA?


Being able to beat everyone in the D.C. Area except for BLC.


BLC is not NOVA. But yes, Madlax by process of elimination:
Cavalier - no
VLC - no
3d - 2022 team disbanded
Evergreen - not even close
Battle lax - you have got to be kidding me
Etc


Evergreen and all other 2022 teams in NoVA are glorified rec teams which is why they play the weak competition in HOCO and the weak summer tournaments.

BTW, the last time BLC 2022 and Madlax played an actual Spring HOCO game, Madlax won. Both are good teams and the talent and skill level isn't even comparable to the other 2022 clubs in the DC area.

So when Evergreen defeats Madlax tomorrow does that make Madlax a glorified rec team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What makes Madlax the top team in NOVA?


Being able to beat everyone in the D.C. Area except for BLC.


BLC is not NOVA. But yes, Madlax by process of elimination:
Cavalier - no
VLC - no
3d - 2022 team disbanded
Evergreen - not even close
Battle lax - you have got to be kidding me
Etc


Evergreen and all other 2022 teams in NoVA are glorified rec teams which is why they play the weak competition in HOCO and the weak summer tournaments.

BTW, the last time BLC 2022 and Madlax played an actual Spring HOCO game, Madlax won. Both are good teams and the talent and skill level isn't even comparable to the other 2022 clubs in the DC area.

So when Evergreen defeats Madlax tomorrow does that make Madlax a glorified rec team?


If evergreen comes within 5 of Madlax tomorrow, evergreen will be elevated to legitimate club level.

Keep us posted.


Any scores from the Evergreen game?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from the Evergreen game?


Must not have been within 5
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What makes Madlax the top team in NOVA?


Being able to beat everyone in the D.C. Area except for BLC.


BLC is not NOVA. But yes, Madlax by process of elimination:
Cavalier - no
VLC - no
3d - 2022 team disbanded
Evergreen - not even close
Battle lax - you have got to be kidding me
Etc


Evergreen and all other 2022 teams in NoVA are glorified rec teams which is why they play the weak competition in HOCO and the weak summer tournaments.

BTW, the last time BLC 2022 and Madlax played an actual Spring HOCO game, Madlax won. Both are good teams and the talent and skill level isn't even comparable to the other 2022 clubs in the DC area.

So when Evergreen defeats Madlax tomorrow does that make Madlax a glorified rec team?


If evergreen comes within 5 of Madlax tomorrow, evergreen will be elevated to legitimate club level.

Keep us posted.



Evergreen is legit
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from the Evergreen game?



Where is the Evergreen Clad? Score?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from the Evergreen game?



Please upload the video from todays game so the Lacrosse community can see what all the hype is about
Madlax with missing players destroyed EGreen. A waste of time for both teams
Evergreen is a joke. Somebody needs to expose the clown who is posting all the lies and shut him up. There was no game today. Evergreen didn't even have enough players to field a team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Madlax with missing players destroyed EGreen. A waste of time for both teams

Fake news
The Evergreen owner is posting fake news to stir up interest in his joke of a club. Evergreen is not a real club, and it never will me. Don't fall for it. There was no Madlax/Evergreen game. Evergreen only had 13 kids that couldn't throw or catch. So there was a controlled scrimmage instead. Complete waste of time for all the Madlax players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Evergreen owner is posting fake news to stir up interest in his joke of a club. Evergreen is not a real club, and it never will me. Don't fall for it. There was no Madlax/Evergreen game. Evergreen only had 13 kids that couldn't throw or catch. So there was a controlled scrimmage instead. Complete waste of time for all the Madlax players.



Not true. Evergreen 2022 has the entire 3d 2022 team and is coached by Dylan Maltz. Madlax is fake news.
First of all, 3d 2022 was never that good. Second, don't know what you mean by the "entire 3d 2022 team." That team imploded. Know lots of former 3d 2022 players that now play for new teams. So it would be impossible for Evergreen to have gotten them all. Third, tell the Evergreen owner to quit all the annoying posts -- it is just making everyone hate his club. If you want to publicize your club, win some games first.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First of all, 3d 2022 was never that good. Second, don't know what you mean by the "entire 3d 2022 team." That team imploded. Know lots of former 3d 2022 players that now play for new teams. So it would be impossible for Evergreen to have gotten them all. Third, tell the Evergreen owner to quit all the annoying posts -- it is just making everyone hate his club. If you want to publicize your club, win some games first.

You assume this is an Evergreen poster. It's just as likely it's a competitor trying to disparage this club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First of all, 3d 2022 was never that good. Second, don't know what you mean by the "entire 3d 2022 team." That team imploded. Know lots of former 3d 2022 players that now play for new teams. So it would be impossible for Evergreen to have gotten them all. Third, tell the Evergreen owner to quit all the annoying posts -- it is just making everyone hate his club. If you want to publicize your club, win some games first.



Names and the clubs they play for? No? Thought so.
When will we see any of the teams get after this fall. Hawks , Express , RR , FCA or anyone else that matters. Enough of the no name whatever Green program and a Mad Lax team that was at the bottom of the league last year
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First of all, 3d 2022 was never that good. Second, don't know what you mean by the "entire 3d 2022 team." That team imploded. Know lots of former 3d 2022 players that now play for new teams. So it would be impossible for Evergreen to have gotten them all. Third, tell the Evergreen owner to quit all the annoying posts -- it is just making everyone hate his club. If you want to publicize your club, win some games first.

You assume this is an Evergreen poster. It's just as likely it's a competitor trying to disparage this club.

My guess is it is a Cavs parent. [lacrosse]hole parents are the biggest thing wrong with Cavs. That and playing little sisters of the poor for competition.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When will we see any of the teams get after this fall. Hawks , Express , RR , FCA or anyone else that matters. Enough of the no name whatever Green program and a Mad Lax team that was at the bottom of the league last year



I know!! I am in desperate need to live vicariously through my 8th grade son's meaningless Fall ball games
Ranking of D.C. Area teams
Express
Madlax
Next level
Express B
VLC/ club blue
Evergreen
Cavalier
Top cal
Next level b
Madlax b
Battle ax etc
DC Express should scrimmage MadLax Capitol to see who is actually the better team in NOVA. Both teams have access to fields, set it up.
Heard Hawks have a play day this weekend? With who?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Hawks have a play day this weekend? With who?

The Bears.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Hawks have a play day this weekend? With who?


Hawks and FCA having a joint practice this weekend. Both teams missing kids with football going on but should be fun for the boys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First of all, 3d 2022 was never that good. Second, don't know what you mean by the "entire 3d 2022 team." That team imploded. Know lots of former 3d 2022 players that now play for new teams. So it would be impossible for Evergreen to have gotten them all. Third, tell the Evergreen owner to quit all the annoying posts -- it is just making everyone hate his club. If you want to publicize your club, win some games first.



Names and the clubs they play for? No? Thought so.

Can't post names on this forum. Nice try...

As a disinterested (in these two clubs anyway) third party, reading about halfway between the extremes posted here and in the Madlax forum I have a pretty good idea what happened.

Evergreen probably did show up with less kids than they hoped they would have. And Madlax may have as well. So they probably ran drills with the two teams combined and had some situational and controlled scrimmage stuff. Probably fast break, man-up/man-down, half-field 6v6, and a little time full-field. I'd bet Madlax dictated most of the action but Evergreen probably did some nice things during the course of the practice. And maybe even scored a decent amount, might've even won a period of that.

Evergreen probably got a good idea of where they really are. If they do have a decent amount of the 3d 2022 team, that team was competitive at 'AA' last year, and I think even won the HoCo tournament, such as it is. Any team that can do that would certainly be competitive in 'AA' and probably pretty good at 'A.' Heck, if Next Level, FCA, and/or that god-awful Crabs team stay at Elite, Evergreen might even be able to win a game or two in that division. And Madlax Cap wasn't great in that division, so if Evergreen kind of hung with them (which is what I believe) then they should be able to compete some there.

Now if they didn't really get a bunch of those 3d kids, then yeah, they'll be lucky to compete at 'B' this year. But reading between the lines I'd be willing to bet they got better since last summer.

So I'd guess it wasn't an "absolute waste of time" for Madlax, but I highly doubt "there's a new sheriff in town" in Evergreen either.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Hawks have a play day this weekend? With who?


Best FOGO around playing for the 2023 Hawks; kid is ridiculously talented and makes that team that much better!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Hawks have a play day this weekend? With who?


Best FOGO around playing for the 2023 Hawks; kid is ridiculously talented and makes that team that much better!!


Thanks Dad. But why are you posting this on the 2022 thread
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First of all, 3d 2022 was never that good. Second, don't know what you mean by the "entire 3d 2022 team." That team imploded. Know lots of former 3d 2022 players that now play for new teams. So it would be impossible for Evergreen to have gotten them all. Third, tell the Evergreen owner to quit all the annoying posts -- it is just making everyone hate his club. If you want to publicize your club, win some games first.



Names and the clubs they play for? No? Thought so.

Can't post names on this forum. Nice try...

As a disinterested (in these two clubs anyway) third party, reading about halfway between the extremes posted here and in the Madlax forum I have a pretty good idea what happened.

Evergreen probably did show up with less kids than they hoped they would have. And Madlax may have as well. So they probably ran drills with the two teams combined and had some situational and controlled scrimmage stuff. Probably fast break, man-up/man-down, half-field 6v6, and a little time full-field. I'd bet Madlax dictated most of the action but Evergreen probably did some nice things during the course of the practice. And maybe even scored a decent amount, might've even won a period of that.

Evergreen probably got a good idea of where they really are. If they do have a decent amount of the 3d 2022 team, that team was competitive at 'AA' last year, and I think even won the HoCo tournament, such as it is. Any team that can do that would certainly be competitive in 'AA' and probably pretty good at 'A.' Heck, if Next Level, FCA, and/or that god-awful Crabs team stay at Elite, Evergreen might even be able to win a game or two in that division. And Madlax Cap wasn't great in that division, so if Evergreen kind of hung with them (which is what I believe) then they should be able to compete some there.

Now if they didn't really get a bunch of those 3d kids, then yeah, they'll be lucky to compete at 'B' this year. But reading between the lines I'd be willing to bet they got better since last summer.

So I'd guess it wasn't an "absolute waste of time" for Madlax, but I highly doubt "there's a new sheriff in town" in Evergreen either.


Sorry, it wasn't competitive. EG put the ball in the net once during the entire practice. They're an A-B level team in HOCO. Nothing wrong with that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Hawks have a play day this weekend? With who?


Best FOGO around playing for the 2023 Hawks; kid is ridiculously talented and makes that team that much better!!

Moron.
The problem is Evergreen did not get all the 3D kids and they did not have all their kids. They did some drills, which they get get the ball once or twice, really that was it. When they played on a full field it wasn't close. Madlax was also missing some keys players, but they would not have changed the outcome. It's going to be a "fun", key word "fun" spring in the Howard County league. Hopefully Evergreen will be competitive in whatever division they play in so that there will be more represtation from the NOVA are. Good luck to both teams, they are going to need it.

PS, if you were not there do not comment on the scrimmage. When you assume you make an a$$ of yourself.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First of all, 3d 2022 was never that good. Second, don't know what you mean by the "entire 3d 2022 team." That team imploded. Know lots of former 3d 2022 players that now play for new teams. So it would be impossible for Evergreen to have gotten them all. Third, tell the Evergreen owner to quit all the annoying posts -- it is just making everyone hate his club. If you want to publicize your club, win some games first.



Names and the clubs they play for? No? Thought so.

Can't post names on this forum. Nice try...

As a disinterested (in these two clubs anyway) third party, reading about halfway between the extremes posted here and in the Madlax forum I have a pretty good idea what happened.

Evergreen probably did show up with less kids than they hoped they would have. And Madlax may have as well. So they probably ran drills with the two teams combined and had some situational and controlled scrimmage stuff. Probably fast break, man-up/man-down, half-field 6v6, and a little time full-field. I'd bet Madlax dictated most of the action but Evergreen probably did some nice things during the course of the practice. And maybe even scored a decent amount, might've even won a period of that.

Evergreen probably got a good idea of where they really are. If they do have a decent amount of the 3d 2022 team, that team was competitive at 'AA' last year, and I think even won the HoCo tournament, such as it is. Any team that can do that would certainly be competitive in 'AA' and probably pretty good at 'A.' Heck, if Next Level, FCA, and/or that god-awful Crabs team stay at Elite, Evergreen might even be able to win a game or two in that division. And Madlax Cap wasn't great in that division, so if Evergreen kind of hung with them (which is what I believe) then they should be able to compete some there.

Now if they didn't really get a bunch of those 3d kids, then yeah, they'll be lucky to compete at 'B' this year. But reading between the lines I'd be willing to bet they got better since last summer.

So I'd guess it wasn't an "absolute waste of time" for Madlax, but I highly doubt "there's a new sheriff in town" in Evergreen either.


If you weren't there, why would you waste everyone's time with your ASSumptions. It was mostly 6x6 half field drills. Madlax scored at will. If I remember correctly, Evergreen only scored once on a failed clear. If they had kept score, it would have been like 28-1. I am sure Evergreen is a fine program, but they are not ready for HoCo A levels.
Because he is a 2022 kid playing on a 2023 team
Evergreen won by 2. The stuff posted here are lies written to save Madlax from embarrassment.
This Evergreen group needs to go away. You have made this forum awful. The hold back stuff you to be annoying but at least it was true and pertained to all of the 2022 teams. Until you play one of the top programs in the area (Hawks, Express,RR, 91,FCA) stop with all the post. I am sure if you want a game with anyone of those team they will gladly have you up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen won by 2. The stuff posted here are lies written to save Madlax from embarrassment.

No way this is an Evergreen person posting. Either (1) someone trying to be funny or stir the pot or (2) A-hole Cavs parent (and there are a lot of them) jealous about Evergreen siphoning off good players and starting to beat Cavs in the older age groups.
This is pretty much right
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen won by 2. The stuff posted here are lies written to save Madlax from embarrassment.

No way this is an Evergreen person posting. Either (1) someone trying to be funny or stir the pot or (2) A-hole Cavs parent (and there are a lot of them) jealous about Evergreen siphoning off good players and starting to beat Cavs in the older age groups.



Partially correct. No Evergreen team is beating another team (no matter how bad), so that statement is incorrect.
Evergreen did not hang with Madlax, not even close. As for missing kids, both teams were down, big deal...wouldn't have changed what I saw. For the 3d kids that moved over tp Evergreen it is a downgrade, the 3d team last year was much better then the current Evergreen team.

MadCap lost the 3 games in Spring 2017 to the teams that finished above them in Elite Division. 3d went 4-2 in the AA division. Evergreen would prob win the A div this Spring and would go .500 or less in the "AA" division (assuming teams/division stay the same). Far from an Elite Team....now can we move on from all these parents trying to justify their move to Evergreen.
Evergreen won by 2 goals. Don't know why that Madlax dad keeps saying otherwise when we were all there.
The best 3d kids didn't go to EG.
They both are B level teams and 3D last year was the same. Even their best players belonged at the rec level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evergreen won by 2 goals. Don't know why that Madlax dad keeps saying otherwise when we were all there.
Who plays this weekend. Please only comment if you know for a fact. These clowns from Madlax and Va are a trip.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who plays this weekend. Please only comment if you know for a fact. These clowns from Madlax and Va are a trip.


Not as bad as the Baltimorons
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who plays this weekend. Please only comment if you know for a fact. These clowns from Madlax and Va are a trip.


Not as bad as the Baltimorons

Are you serious? You people are total morons/idiots and total as*holes. Madlax organization and parents are simply pathetic to be around at a game, especially the fathers. They don't know the game but sit there and [lacrosse] at every call. That word idiots comes to mind again. Evergreen is showing they are just like the other DC and N Va clubs, total clueless idiots, all of them fall easily into this catagory. This is the Maryland section, go find your own or request your own section, you people are way too weak in lax IQ to be hanging out here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who plays this weekend. Please only comment if you know for a fact. These clowns from Madlax and Va are a trip.


Playday Games at umd. Hawks, D.C. Express, philly freedom, leading edge
Rumor is MM and 2022 have upgraded at the goalie in FO positions; this team could be the team to beat this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is MM and 2022 have upgraded at the goalie in FO positions; this team could be the team to beat this year.


Hi, Team 88+3 2022 Goalie Dad!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is MM and 2022 have upgraded at the goalie in FO positions; this team could be the team to beat this year.

#fakenews - 91MD Dad
So we are to believe that CM's email error in judgement was a one time thing and he "learned" from his mistakes? Hmmm...I have some land in Alaska that will become a tropical paradise next week....Madlax is money making machine...plain and simple...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who plays this weekend. Please only comment if you know for a fact. These clowns from Madlax and Va are a trip.


Not as bad as the Baltimorons

Are you serious? You people are total morons/idiots and total as*holes. Madlax organization and parents are simply pathetic to be around at a game, especially the fathers. They don't know the game but sit there and [lacrosse] at every call. That word idiots comes to mind again. Evergreen is showing they are just like the other DC and N Va clubs, total clueless idiots, all of them fall easily into this catagory. This is the Maryland section, go find your own or request your own section, you people are way too weak in lax IQ to be hanging out here.



This board is funny and if you read to much into any post then the idiot is the one looking in the mirror. I think the Evergreen posts are funny and sometimes interesting as they are bringing attention to themselves. The personal attacks on specific Hawks players and club owners are not funny or interesting to most people. However the best joke of all is the suggestion that Lax IQ has anything to do with any post I have ever read on this site.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who plays this weekend. Please only comment if you know for a fact. These clowns from Madlax and Va are a trip.


Not as bad as the Baltimorons

Are you serious? You people are total morons/idiots and total as*holes. Madlax organization and parents are simply pathetic to be around at a game, especially the fathers. They don't know the game but sit there and [lacrosse] at every call. That word idiots comes to mind again. Evergreen is showing they are just like the other DC and N Va clubs, total clueless idiots, all of them fall easily into this catagory. This is the Maryland section, go find your own or request your own section, you people are way too weak in lax IQ to be hanging out here.


Congrats. [lacrosse] post of the year thus far. Apparently you're Bill Tierney in your mind, meanwhile you're most likely some donk who played HS lax in Glen Burnie. STFU about how you're from MD, nobody cares except your parole and/or child services officer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is MM and 2022 have upgraded at the goalie in FO positions; this team could be the team to beat this year.


Heard starting attack will be one of best in Nation this year. No teams will be able to stop.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who plays this weekend. Please only comment if you know for a fact. These clowns from Madlax and Va are a trip.


Not as bad as the Baltimorons

Are you serious? You people are total morons/idiots and total as*holes. Madlax organization and parents are simply pathetic to be around at a game, especially the fathers. They don't know the game but sit there and [lacrosse] at every call. That word idiots comes to mind again. Evergreen is showing they are just like the other DC and N Va clubs, total clueless idiots, all of them fall easily into this catagory. This is the Maryland section, go find your own or request your own section, you people are way too weak in lax IQ to be hanging out here.


Congrats. [lacrosse] post of the year thus far. Apparently you're Bill Tierney in your mind, meanwhile you're most likely some donk who played HS lax in Glen Burnie. STFU about how you're from MD, nobody cares except your parole and/or child services officer.


Good grief, is that the best you have? Really pathetic response but typical from a DC/N. Va lax pretender. Like was stated by the other poster, go get your own DC thread and stay the [lacrosse] out of the Md thread. No one wants to hear the useless dribble from the pretend fans from the DC area.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who plays this weekend. Please only comment if you know for a fact. These clowns from Madlax and Va are a trip.


Not as bad as the Baltimorons

Are you serious? You people are total morons/idiots and total as*holes. Madlax organization and parents are simply pathetic to be around at a game, especially the fathers. They don't know the game but sit there and [lacrosse] at every call. That word idiots comes to mind again. Evergreen is showing they are just like the other DC and N Va clubs, total clueless idiots, all of them fall easily into this catagory. This is the Maryland section, go find your own or request your own section, you people are way too weak in lax IQ to be hanging out here.


Congrats. [lacrosse] post of the year thus far. Apparently you're Bill Tierney in your mind, meanwhile you're most likely some donk who played HS lax in Glen Burnie. STFU about how you're from MD, nobody cares except your parole and/or child services officer.


Good grief, is that the best you have? Really pathetic response but typical from a DC/N. Va lax pretender. Like was stated by the other poster, go get your own DC thread and stay the [lacrosse] out of the Md thread. No one wants to hear the useless dribble from the pretend fans from the DC area.


Im from MD too and you're comments are not only embarrassing yourself, but also the rest of us from MD. Not sure if you've noticed, but there's some pretty good lacrosse and players from the DC area.

You sir are a [lacrosse].
What were the scores from the MD playday in college park?
That seems pretty much correct when do the tournaments start
RR is the most important . MM Fogo from last year went to RR . That is what RR was missing . MM new fogo came from API he is ok .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RR is the most important . MM Fogo from last year went to RR . That is what RR was missing . MM new fogo came from API he is ok .

Improved? The API fogo to 91 is excellent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What were the scores from the MD playday in college park?



Dukes Nationals had a playday at MD college park last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What were the scores from the MD playday in college park?



Dukes Nationals had a playday at MD college park last year.



They lost both games also last year.
No,Dukes Nationals 2022 won both games last year at College Park
Very Quiet on here. Wonder why? 🤣
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very Quiet on here. Wonder why? 🤣



Please tell
No one gives a [lacrosse] about Dukes.
Hawks 3-0 on the day. DC Express needs more time to play together.
They destroy the Hawks 10-4 in Naptown
MM new fogo is small and gets pushed around a lot and loses the ball
10-4
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RR is the most important . MM Fogo from last year went to RR . That is what RR was missing . MM new fogo came from API he is ok .

Improved? The API fogo to 91 is excellent.



MM lost top Fogo and picked up API second string Fogo. Excellent!
DC Express will be a force come spring.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express will be a force come spring.


Agreed, They played everyone tough and just need more time together. Hawks team has very good chemistry and will be hard to beat. Looks like same team from summer . Leading Edge and Freedom very good teams.
What team did this top goalie that went to 88+3 come from?
Express lost 3 of their best players to non-lax injuries in the last 2 weeks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express will be a force come spring.



Total lie. DCE 2021 went 1-2. Shows that the guys they lost really weakened the team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express will be a force come spring.



Total lie. DCE 2021 went 1-2. Shows that the guys they lost really weakened the team.



DCE went 3-0 this weekend -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express will be a force come spring.



Total lie. DCE 2021 went 1-2. Shows that the guys they lost really weakened the team.



DCE went 3-0 this weekend -


They beat the Hawks?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express will be a force come spring.



Total lie. DCE 2021 went 1-2. Shows that the guys they lost really weakened the team.



DCE went 3-0 this weekend -


They beat the Hawks?


Yes. DCE 2021 beat Hawks 2021. These idiots are talking 2021 on the 2022 forum.
DCE 21 beat hawks 15-2 - was 10-0 at half

DCE 21 did not lose any players - cut 4 who had no impact and added 7 from other clubs

Also beat freedom 5-0 and leading edge11-2

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express will be a force come spring.



Total lie. DCE 2021 went 1-2. Shows that the guys they lost really weakened the team.



DCE went 3-0 this weekend -


They beat the Hawks?


Yes. DCE 2021 beat Hawks 2021. These idiots are talking 2021 on the 2022 forum.


DCE? They have a lot of work to do at 2022 level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DC Express will be a force come spring.


Agreed, They played everyone tough and just need more time together. Hawks team has very good chemistry and will be hard to beat. Looks like same team from summer . Leading Edge and Freedom very good teams.


Hawks very different from the summer when we played them. Several new kids. 2 fogos now. The new one looks better than the one from last year. Couple new big middies and defense. Only had 1 goalie this year. Still the team to beat.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
DCE 21 beat hawks 15-2 - was 10-0 at half

DCE 21 did not lose any players - cut 4 who had no impact and added 7 from other clubs

Also beat freedom 5-0 and leading edge11-2



Hawks 2022 beat DCE 2021 in an indoor game last winter.

The Hawks 2022 look a high school Jv team with all the reclass kids. They do have great
Skills and Lacrosse IQ. They will tuff to beat.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks 2022 look a high school Jv team with all the reclass kids. They do have great
Skills and Lacrosse IQ. They will tuff to beat.



All elite teams look like JV teams. In order to be an elite team, you need to recruit the kids that reclassed. I don't think there is an elite team out there with more than half the starting line-up born after 9/1/2003. Sad - but that's the way lacrosse is today.

The Hawks 2022 hold backs are the smallest players on that team.
Far more football players are holdbacks but you do not hear football parents squeal and whine about holdbacks as much as lax parents. Just play. Life is unfair. If some other parents want to hold their kid back due to sports, immaturity or any other reason and go to the trouble of reclassifying their kid, I do not care. As long as you are not 19 when you enter your senior year, VA high schools do not care either. If your kid is good enough, it will not matter, especially with the new NCAA recruiting rules.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks 2022 hold backs are the smallest players on that team.



Hawks were the smallest team this weekend. All the teams looked evenly matched. 8th grade everyone is growing and catching up. Express was big at almost every position and Freedom too. A lot of good lacrosse this weekend for fall ball
There is a forum now for the holdback comments and those that have not gotten over it. Wether you agree or disagree that is the forum for it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Far more football players are holdbacks but you do not hear football parents squeal and whine about holdbacks as much as lax parents. Just play. Life is unfair. If some other parents want to hold their kid back due to sports, immaturity or any other reason and go to the trouble of reclassifying their kid, I do not care. As long as you are not 19 when you enter your senior year, VA high schools do not care either. If your kid is good enough, it will not matter, especially with the new NCAA recruiting rules.


Complete garbage..The main holdback venom is directed at youth under 9th grade, Football has clear age restrictions in place at youth level.

HS is were it evens out a lot..but there will always be some slight advantage to being a year older than everyone else in your class.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks 2022 look a high school Jv team with all the reclass kids. They do have great
Skills and Lacrosse IQ. They will tuff to beat.



All elite teams look like JV teams. In order to be an elite team, you need to recruit the kids that reclassed. I don't think there is an elite team out there with more than half the starting line-up born after 9/1/2003. Sad - but that's the way lacrosse is today.



So true..Why YOUTH sports needs to carve out a select few to get an advantage is a mystery. Gives the game of lacrosse at Youth level a bad reputation. Tell anyone what goes on about holdbacks and younger teams and they have this ..what?? expression.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Far more football players are holdbacks but you do not hear football parents squeal and whine about holdbacks as much as lax parents. Just play. Life is unfair. If some other parents want to hold their kid back due to sports, immaturity or any other reason and go to the trouble of reclassifying their kid, I do not care. As long as you are not 19 when you enter your senior year, VA high schools do not care either. If your kid is good enough, it will not matter, especially with the new NCAA recruiting rules.


I know shut up already. Everyone is holding back or taking a PG year. Get used to it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks 2022 hold backs are the smallest players on that team.


And also their leading scorers.

Your saying to be elite you need to reclass . That’s sad
I am not here to [lacrosse] about older kids vs. Younger kids but I will tell you I know of at least one team that has only 1 or 2 kid that are above the US lacrosse age cut off and they are very elite. It is all about coaching period. Good coaching makes goI'd lacrosse players not age.
"And also their leading scorers"

Really?

A goalie and a D-Pole are their leading scorers? That's impressive......
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks 2022 look a high school Jv team with all the reclass kids. They do have great
Skills and Lacrosse IQ. They will tuff to beat.



All elite teams look like JV teams. In order to be an elite team, you need to recruit the kids that reclassed. I don't think there is an elite team out there with more than half the starting line-up born after 9/1/2003. Sad - but that's the way lacrosse is today.


That statement is patently false. My son's elite team is comprised primarily of public school boys and the starting lineup does not include a single holdback. The team does not recruit hold backs, they simply develop the kids to play at a high level regardless of their age. I don't begrudge the teams that are stocked with older kids, but it's moronic to suggest that they are a required to be successful in this sport.
"And also their leading scorers"

Really?

So a goalie and D-Pole are their leading scorers? Impressive!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Far more football players are holdbacks but you do not hear football parents squeal and whine about holdbacks as much as lax parents. Just play. Life is unfair. If some other parents want to hold their kid back due to sports, immaturity or any other reason and go to the trouble of reclassifying their kid, I do not care. As long as you are not 19 when you enter your senior year, VA high schools do not care either. If your kid is good enough, it will not matter, especially with the new NCAA recruiting rules.


That is 100% not true, parents squeal all the time. In 8th grade, a holdback has a much bigger impact on a football game. This kid is 15 playing against 13 & 14-year-old, he is 200lbs runs a 4.6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6A1vpVKXgg&t=117s

No one player in lacrosse can impact a game like one player in football.

It is called a competitive advantage. If a parent and a kid want to use rules that are in place to their advantage because sport is that important to them, they can do it. The issue is the parents are not well informed as scholarship money is far higher for Merit scholarships that Lax. If the parents were smart, they would let their kid enjoy Lax, stop club hoping, stop buying into the recruiting scam and get a tutor so the kids gets merit money. As someone who has already been through this, some parents really show their dearth of knowledge with this topic. Education is really what it is all about. Sad the parents are uneducated on this topic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"And also their leading scorers"

Really?

A goalie and a D-Pole are their leading scorers? That's impressive......

Both goalies, best middie, best attack....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks 2022 look a high school Jv team with all the reclass kids. They do have great
Skills and Lacrosse IQ. They will tuff to beat.



All elite teams look like JV teams. In order to be an elite team, you need to recruit the kids that reclassed. I don't think there is an elite team out there with more than half the starting line-up born after 9/1/2003. Sad - but that's the way lacrosse is today.


That statement is patently false. My son's elite team is comprised primarily of public school boys and the starting lineup does not include a single holdback. The team does not recruit hold backs, they simply develop the kids to play at a high level regardless of their age. I don't begrudge the teams that are stocked with older kids, but it's moronic to suggest that they are a required to be successful in this sport.


I call bull on this one. No team in the HOCO elite division starts no holdbacks. Except maybe Next Level who didn’t win a game and didn’t belong in the division and I’m sure even they had holdbacks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Hawks 2022 look a high school Jv team with all the reclass kids. They do have great
Skills and Lacrosse IQ. They will tuff to beat.



All elite teams look like JV teams. In order to be an elite team, you need to recruit the kids that reclassed. I don't think there is an elite team out there with more than half the starting line-up born after 9/1/2003. Sad - but that's the way lacrosse is today.


That statement is patently false. My son's elite team is comprised primarily of public school boys and the starting lineup does not include a single holdback. The team does not recruit hold backs, they simply develop the kids to play at a high level regardless of their age. I don't begrudge the teams that are stocked with older kids, but it's moronic to suggest that they are a required to be successful in this sport.


I call bull on this one. No team in the HOCO elite division starts no holdbacks. Except maybe Next Level who didn’t win a game and didn’t belong in the division and I’m sure even they had holdbacks.

Call bull all you want.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"And also their leading scorers"

Really?

So a goalie and D-Pole are their leading scorers? Impressive!!


Well the goailes a D-Pole are not their smallest players VF7
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is MM and 2022 have upgraded at the goalie in FO positions; this team could be the team to beat this year.


Heard starting attack will be one of best in Nation this year. No teams will be able to stop.


Will MM allow more than one attackman to shoot this year?
Evergreen 2022 beating Madlax 2022 by 2 goals is impressive jo matter how you spin it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"And also their leading scorers"

Really?

A goalie and a D-Pole are their leading scorers? That's impressive......

Both goalies, best middie, best attack....


One of the goalies is a 7th grader. Check your sources again.
Their is money in football, basketball and baseball . I just don’t get holding your child back in lacrosse . Most of the kids will not play D1
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"And also their leading scorers"

Really?

A goalie and a D-Pole are their leading scorers? That's impressive......

Both goalies, best middie, best attack....


One of the goalies is a 7th grader. Check your sources again.


You're not even trying. They were both 2021s at some point.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"And also their leading scorers"

Really?

A goalie and a D-Pole are their leading scorers? That's impressive......

Both goalies, best middie, best attack....


One of the goalies is a 7th grader. Check your sources again.


You're not even trying. They were both 2021s at some point.


Maybe, just maybe one of them played up? Check your sources and try again.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is MM and 2022 have upgraded at the goalie in FO positions; this team could be the team to beat this year.


Heard starting attack will be one of best in Nation this year. No teams will be able to stop.


Will MM allow more than one attackman to shoot this year?


LOL!!! Of course not. Why let anyone else shoot ?? Crazy think man, think!
Which programs are.playing in the fall classie in the sunday?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which programs are.playing in the fall classie in the sunday?

Well I can promise you one club that is not playing anyone good this Fall and its name is {Evergreen}
The
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which programs are.playing in the fall classie in the sunday?

Well I can promise you one club that is not playing anyone good this Fall and its name is {Evergreen}

The Aloha tournament on Nov 5th?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which programs are.playing in the fall classie in the sunday?

Well I can promise you one club that is not playing anyone good this Fall and its name is {Evergreen}

The Aloha tournament on Nov 5th?


B teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which programs are.playing in the fall classie in the sunday?

Well I can promise you one club that is not playing anyone good this Fall and its name is {Evergreen}

The Aloha tournament on Nov 5th?


B teams. The big boy tourney that weekend on Nov 5 is the Crabs Fall Tourney at McDonough.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which programs are.playing in the fall classie in the sunday?

Well I can promise you one club that is not playing anyone good this Fall and its name is {Evergreen}

The Aloha tournament on Nov 5th?


B teams. The big boy tourney that weekend on Nov 5 is the Crabs Fall Tourney at McDonough.


What 2022 teams are playing in the Battle on Bay and Crabs Fall tourney in a few weeks?

I assume the usuals including Hawks, Crabs, API, MadLax, FCA, etc...who else? RR, 91, BLC/DCE?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which programs are.playing in the fall classie in the sunday?

Well I can promise you one club that is not playing anyone good this Fall and its name is {Evergreen}

The Aloha tournament on Nov 5th?


B teams. The big boy tourney that weekend on Nov 5 is the Crabs Fall Tourney at McDonough.


What 2022 teams are playing in the Battle on Bay and Crabs Fall tourney in a few weeks?

I assume the usuals including Hawks, Crabs, API, MadLax, FCA, etc...who else? RR, 91, BLC/DCE?


Tough to say since neither tournament has a website. Dukes is playing in Battle on the Bay
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which programs are.playing in the fall classie in the sunday?

Well I can promise you one club that is not playing anyone good this Fall and its name is {Evergreen}

The Aloha tournament on Nov 5th?


B teams. The big boy tourney that weekend on Nov 5 is the Crabs Fall Tourney at McDonough.


What 2022 teams are playing in the Battle on Bay and Crabs Fall tourney in a few weeks?

I assume the usuals including Hawks, Crabs, API, MadLax, FCA, etc...who else? RR, 91, BLC/DCE?


Tough to say since neither tournament has a website. Dukes is playing in Battle on the Bay


I know some of the good 22 teams out there are being invited to the Battle on the Bay - TX Mustangs and Duke Nationals are joining.
Hawks, Igloo and Express were all there last year too
I herd Igloo not going his year
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I herd Igloo not going his year


that s too bad , good team and always tough to play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I herd Igloo not going his year


that s too bad , good team and always tough to play.


With Dukes Nationals playing this year no one wants to come down from LI after the beat down LI Express took in August.
Bringing 2022’s to play express’ ‘b’ 2023 team - yes we on Long Island are very afraid!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I herd Igloo not going his year


that s too bad , good team and always tough to play.


With Dukes Nationals playing this year no one wants to come down from LI after the beat down LI Express took in August.


I'm confused aren't 1/2 the player's on dukes from LI?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bringing 2022’s to play express’ ‘b’ 2023 team - yes we on Long Island are very afraid!


Whatever. This is the 2022 forum. The 2022 Dukes team played the Channy team and beat them 12-3. Don’t know what happened in the 2023 game but I heard the 2023 Express A team backed out so Dukes had to beat up on the B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bringing 2022’s to play express’ ‘b’ 2023 team - yes we on Long Island are very afraid!


Whatever. This is the 2022 forum. The 2022 Dukes team played the Channy team and beat them 12-3. Don’t know what happened in the 2023 game but I heard the 2023 Express A team backed out so Dukes had to beat up on the B team.



Who are the Dukes?
give me a break so why is Igloo not going they won it last year in fall and won the million championship Express and Igloo are the best team in the age hands down
Originally Posted by Anonymous
give me a break so why is Igloo not going they won it last year in fall and won the million championship Express and Igloo are the best team in the age hands down

It is obvious these NY posters have no idea who Everg