Boys 2022 - US Lacrosse Community Forum

It's the start of the Fall 2016/Spring 2017 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group

Team 9D1 MD, Diamondbacks, and FCA had tryouts this weekend.

Any surprises?

Good luck to all the teams at this age group/ tough competition all around .

Many changes coming to top teams???

Many Crabs helmets at FCA tryouts?

Lots of 9D1 helmets everywhere

It's club lacrosse... Why wouldn't you try out for other teams and look at other options... You would be silly no to...

Lots of FCA lids at 9D1 tryouts. Only 1 crab lid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of 9D1 helmets everywhere

Where? There was only one at FCA tryouts.

Counted 5 9d1 and 6 crabs helmets at tryouts

Who are the coaches for API? Did they keep the same guys? Thinking of attending a try out for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the coaches for API? Did they keep the same guys? Thinking of attending a try out for them.

If only Al Gore had invented a way for you to find this information.

Smash got their nuts smash when they play Maryland teams.

Any decent 91 MD players will be back. They are just kicking tires.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any decent 91 MD players will be back. They are just kicking tires.

You mean except for the one's that quit already this summer? Some people just don't want to play for MM. Can't blame them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the coaches for API? Did they keep the same guys? Thinking of attending a try out for them.

If only Al Gore had invented a way for you to find this information.

Do you want the list to include all the dads?

Any good fall leagues this year?

AYLA has moved to Germantown Elem in Annapolis but will probably probably still be mostly Rec teams and 2 or 3 clubs.

Next Level (Bethesda) looks like they have gone all Rec.

Any other options?

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Wonder if they were from Crabs 2020 or 2021 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Then I think you better learn to count.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Wonder if they were from Crabs 2020 or 2021 teams.

You crack yourself up i'm sure. One was actually from the 2023 team, rest were 22's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Wonder if they were from Crabs 2020 or 2021 teams.

You crack yourself up i'm sure. One was actually from the 2023 team, rest were 22's.

If you are associated with Crabs, we are really going to believe you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Crabs coaches supposedly screamed obscenities at the kids on a regular basis. Also there are 2021s dropping down so the 2022s can either drop down also or move out (to FCA)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Crabs coaches supposedly screamed obscenities at the kids on a regular basis. Also there are 2021s dropping down so the 2022s can either drop down also or move out (to FCA)

Where do you guys come up with this stuff? There are no 2021's dropping down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Wonder if they were from Crabs 2020 or 2021 teams.

You crack yourself up i'm sure. One was actually from the 2023 team, rest were 22's.

If you are associated with Crabs, we are really going to believe you!

You can choose to believe what you want, but it is true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Crabs coaches supposedly screamed obscenities at the kids on a regular basis. Also there are 2021s dropping down so the 2022s can either drop down also or move out (to FCA)

Not "supposedly", it is a fact and the worst offender is the king crab himself, the head coach of Crabs 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Crabs coaches supposedly screamed obscenities at the kids on a regular basis. Also there are 2021s dropping down so the 2022s can either drop down also or move out (to FCA)

Crabs always has players who will drop down a grade as they re class and repeat either 7th or 8th grade. Just the way they operate. Nothing will ever change with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Crabs coaches supposedly screamed obscenities at the kids on a regular basis. Also there are 2021s dropping down so the 2022s can either drop down also or move out (to FCA)

Crabs always has players who will drop down a grade as they re class and repeat either 7th or 8th grade. Just the way they operate. Nothing will ever change with them.

Sorry. No Crabs 2021's reclassing to 2022 this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Crabs coaches supposedly screamed obscenities at the kids on a regular basis. Also there are 2021s dropping down so the 2022s can either drop down also or move out (to FCA)

Crabs always has players who will drop down a grade as they re class and repeat either 7th or 8th grade. Just the way they operate. Nothing will ever change with them.

Sorry. No Crabs 2021's reclassing to 2022 this year.

Cough, cough

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Crabs coaches supposedly screamed obscenities at the kids on a regular basis. Also there are 2021s dropping down so the 2022s can either drop down also or move out (to FCA)

Crabs always has players who will drop down a grade as they re class and repeat either 7th or 8th grade. Just the way they operate. Nothing will ever change with them.

Sorry. No Crabs 2021's reclassing to 2022 this year.

Cough, cough

Sure they are? Who are you kidding.

Any surprises at the Crabs, Hawks, FCA, or Storm tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at the Crabs, Hawks, FCA, or Storm tryouts?

No real surprise but at Crabs and FCA many players trying out drove their parents car to tryouts.

Storm really who cares. B team

Crabs who 2022 team leaving and coached let go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Storm really who cares. B team

Crabs who 2022 team leaving and coached let go.

Who cares about lacrosse - your grammar is terrible dude!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Storm really who cares. B team

Crabs who 2022 team leaving and coached let go.

Who cares about lacrosse - your grammar is terrible dude!

Me like lacrosse... Lacrosse good!... Sup Capatain Caveman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any decent 91 MD players will be back. They are just kicking tires.

You mean except for the one's that quit already this summer? Some people just don't want to play for MM. Can't blame them

Whats up with MM?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any decent 91 MD players will be back. They are just kicking tires.

You mean except for the one's that quit already this summer? Some people just don't want to play for MM. Can't blame them

Whats up with MM?

You're trying to stir crap up right? Have you never watched him coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any decent 91 MD players will be back. They are just kicking tires.

You mean except for the one's that quit already this summer? Some people just don't want to play for MM. Can't blame them

Whats up with MM?

You're trying to stir crap up right? Have you never watched him coach?

Sure have, and I never want to see it again. What a total a hole. Did that stir it up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any decent 91 MD players will be back. They are just kicking tires.

You mean except for the one's that quit already this summer? Some people just don't want to play for MM. Can't blame them

Whats up with MM?

You're trying to stir crap up right? Have you never watched him coach?

Sure have, and I never want to see it again. What a total a hole. Did that stir it up?

MM seems like a good lacrosse guy. I know he destroyed many Breaker teams . But that only effected owner as kids just went to his club he got going in MD. What did MM do beat your team all season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any decent 91 MD players will be back. They are just kicking tires.

You mean except for the one's that quit already this summer? Some people just don't want to play for MM. Can't blame them

Whats up with MM?

Nope, not at all, he just acts like a total a hole jerk, full of himself and yells at kids on the other team he is playing if he doesn't like what they are doing. That is totally wrong and not good sportsmanship.

You're trying to stir crap up right? Have you never watched him coach?

Sure have, and I never want to see it again. What a total a hole. Did that stir it up?

MM seems like a good lacrosse guy. I know he destroyed many Breaker teams . But that only effected owner as kids just went to his club he got going in MD. What did MM do beat your team all season?

Nope, not at all, he just acts like a total a hole jerk, full of himself and yells at kids on the other team he is playing if he doesn't like what they are doing. That is totally wrong and not good sportsmanship. Many feel youth lacrosse would be better without him. Plus he is a cry baby.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Any decent 91 MD players will be back. They are just kicking tires.[/quotNJe]

You mean except for the one's that quit already this summer? Some people just don't want to play for MM. Can't blame them

Whats up with MM?

Nope, not at all, he just acts like a total a hole jerk, full of himself and yells at kids on the other team he is playing if he doesn't like what they are doing. That is totally wrong and not good sportsmanship.

You're trying to stir crap up right? Have you never watched him coach?

Sure have, and I never want to see it again. What a total a hole. Did that stir it up?

MM seems like a good lacrosse guy. I know he destroyed many Breaker teams . But that only effected owner as kids just went to his club he got going in MD. What did MM do beat your team all season?

Nope, not at all, he just acts like a total a hole jerk, full of himself and yells at kids on the other team he is playing if he doesn't like what they are doing. That is totally wrong and not good sportsmanship. Many feel youth lacrosse would be better without him. Plus he is a cry baby.

My son plays for him and he is a solid teacher. Let's face it, sooner or later your precious children are going to have to transition from sugar coated, take your money, daddy ball. Life ain't easy, but you keep looking for that pat on the back for little Johnny. Or better yet, hold him back a year and sit around the dinner table talking about how great he is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Any decent 91 MD players will be back. They are just kicking tires.[/quotNJe]

You mean except for the one's that quit already this summer? Some people just don't want to play for MM. Can't blame them

Whats up with MM?

Nope, not at all, he just acts like a total a hole jerk, full of himself and yells at kids on the other team he is playing if he doesn't like what they are doing. That is totally wrong and not good sportsmanship.

You're trying to stir crap up right? Have you never watched him coach?

Sure have, and I never want to see it again. What a total a hole. Did that stir it up?

MM seems like a good lacrosse guy. I know he destroyed many Breaker teams . But that only effected owner as kids just went to his club he got going in MD. What did MM do beat your team all season?

Nope, not at all, he just acts like a total a hole jerk, full of himself and yells at kids on the other team he is playing if he doesn't like what they are doing. That is totally wrong and not good sportsmanship. Many feel youth lacrosse would be better without him. Plus he is a cry baby.

My son plays for him and he is a solid teacher. Let's face it, sooner or later your precious children are going to have to transition from sugar coated, take your money, daddy ball. Life ain't easy, but you keep looking for that pat on the back for little Johnny. Or better yet, hold him back a year and sit around the dinner table talking about how great he is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope, not at all, he just acts like a total a hole jerk, full of himself and yells at kids on the other team he is playing if he doesn't like what they are doing. That is totally wrong and not good sportsmanship.

You're trying to stir crap up right? Have you never watched him coach?

Sure have, and I never want to see it again. What a total a hole. Did that stir it up?

MM seems like a good lacrosse guy. I know he destroyed many Breaker teams . But that only effected owner as kids just went to his club he got going in MD. What did MM do beat your team all season?

Nope, not at all, he just acts like a total a hole jerk, full of himself and yells at kids on the other team he is playing if he doesn't like what they are doing. That is totally wrong and not good sportsmanship. Many feel youth lacrosse would be better without him. Plus he is a cry baby.

My son plays for him and he is a solid teacher. Let's face it, sooner or later your precious children are going to have to transition from sugar coated, take your money, daddy ball. Life ain't easy, but you keep looking for that pat on the back for little Johnny. Or better yet, hold him back a year and sit around the dinner table talking about how great he is.

No one said that things need to be sugar coated. My son does not play for a daddy coach. I don't agree with daddy coaches for club at all. But there is a difference between what MM does and what I think should be acceptable for a youth lacrosse coach. Part of his role should be as a mentor and positive male role model. Kids look up to their coaches and should see someone that approaches the game and life in general with class and that treats people they way they would like to be treated. I don't feel that MM meets any of those standards. If you choose to let him to have a hand in shaping your boy, that's your decision.

umm...MM is a Daddy coach, however he also happens to be one of the most decorated lacrosse players to ever play. There happens to be several dads coaching whom are very qualified to do so and are great role models and mentors.
Parents need to land there choppers for a few and let there kids experience some adversity. All of the coaches have faults and have made some mistakes. They are learning and working on it just like our kids are. Its pretty simple. Plenty of great talent at this age group wether a holdback or not . Coaching overall is very good on almost every team . Not on MM team but give it a break with bashing of an ALL WORLD PLAYER on every level who has been teaching and coaching u13 for 20 plus years. If he is not for your son then go to one of the other 3 top MD programs with dads coaching this level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

umm...MM is a Daddy coach, however he also happens to be one of the most decorated lacrosse players to ever play. There happens to be several dads coaching whom are very qualified to do so and are great role models and mentors.
Parents need to land there choppers for a few and let there kids experience some adversity. All of the coaches have faults and have made some mistakes. They are learning and working on it just like our kids are. Its pretty simple. Plenty of great talent at this age group wether a holdback or not . Coaching overall is very good on almost every team . Not on MM team but give it a break with bashing of an ALL WORLD PLAYER on every level who has been teaching and coaching u13 for 20 plus years. If he is not for your son then go to one of the other 3 top MD programs with dads coaching this level.

Who cares if he is an all world player or has been coaching for 20 years. He is still a butt head and his actions coaching games sets a real bad example for his players, other teams players and anyone watching. Your description of him, "one of the most decorated lacrosse players" means nothing when someone acts like he does in front of kids. My son would never play for him any there are others that feel the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I counted 10 Crab helmets at FCA 2022 tryouts last night.

Wonder if they were from Crabs 2020 or 2021 teams.

Thank you. This comment made me laugh out loud.

Exactly what the post says, Your son won't play for him. Congratulations on continuing to bash someone you have nothing to do with. So what other Daddy coach does your kid play for? this thread is beyond comical and can't wait for your cry baby reply.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

umm...MM is a Daddy coach, however he also happens to be one of the most decorated lacrosse players to ever play. There happens to be several dads coaching whom are very qualified to do so and are great role models and mentors.
Parents need to land there choppers for a few and let there kids experience some adversity. All of the coaches have faults and have made some mistakes. They are learning and working on it just like our kids are. Its pretty simple. Plenty of great talent at this age group wether a holdback or not . Coaching overall is very good on almost every team . Not on MM team but give it a break with bashing of an ALL WORLD PLAYER on every level who has been teaching and coaching u13 for 20 plus years. If he is not for your son then go to one of the other 3 top MD programs with dads coaching this level.

Who cares if he is an all world player or has been coaching for 20 years. He is still a butt head and his actions coaching games sets a real bad example for his players, other teams players and anyone watching. Your description of him, "one of the most decorated lacrosse players" means nothing when someone acts like he does in front of kids. My son would never play for him any there are others that feel the same.

Its obvious you don't care ! To reply like that says a lot about you . My guess is qualifications for coaching your kid means nothing since you obviously know more about lacrosse than the Coaches out there. the coaches that take all your winning and crying behind there backs on an anonymous site.
We all here ya!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its obvious you don't care ! To reply like that says a lot about you . My guess is qualifications for coaching your kid means nothing since you obviously know more about lacrosse than the Coaches out there. the coaches that take all your winning and crying behind there backs on an anonymous site.
We all here ya!

Translating for the benefit of the group.

winning = whining
there = their
here = hear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

umm...MM is a Daddy coach, however he also happens to be one of the most decorated lacrosse players to ever play. There happens to be several dads coaching whom are very qualified to do so and are great role models and mentors.
Parents need to land there choppers for a few and let there kids experience some adversity. All of the coaches have faults and have made some mistakes. They are learning and working on it just like our kids are. Its pretty simple. Plenty of great talent at this age group wether a holdback or not . Coaching overall is very good on almost every team . Not on MM team but give it a break with bashing of an ALL WORLD PLAYER on every level who has been teaching and coaching u13 for 20 plus years. If he is not for your son then go to one of the other 3 top MD programs with dads coaching this level.

Who cares if he is an all world player or has been coaching for 20 years. He is still a butt head and his actions coaching games sets a real bad example for his players, other teams players and anyone watching. Your description of him, "one of the most decorated lacrosse players" means nothing when someone acts like he does in front of kids. My son would never play for him any there are others that feel the same.

Its obvious you don't care ! To reply like that says a lot about you . My guess is qualifications for coaching your kid means nothing since you obviously know more about lacrosse than the Coaches out there. the coaches that take all your winning and crying behind there backs on an anonymous site.
We all here ya!

I believe what that poster was saying is that just because you were a very good/outstanding player does not mean or guarantee you will be a good/outstanding coach.
And really, your reply to that poster says volumes about you. You feel no one can have an opinion if it doesn't agree with yours. That is sad indeed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exactly what the post says, Your son won't play for him. Congratulations on continuing to bash someone you have nothing to do with. So what other Daddy coach does your kid play for? this thread is beyond comical and can't wait for your cry baby reply.

Wow, you seem to be the cry baby with that reply. MM is too full of himself for my and many others liking. His actions at games are not acceptable and he is always complaining to refs. He needs to coach his team, let the refs do their job and let the other coach do theirs and leave the kids on the other team alone.
Obviously your kid plays for him and you feel you must defend him.
The only thing comical was your above reply. People can have an opinion of someone without their son playing for that individual. You need to get over yourself.

MM is a very good technical coach. He's forgetten more lacrosse (especially offense) knowledge than most coaches have at the youth club level. That being said the question is does he have the tempermant to coach especially a team including his own son. Becoming a great coach is a lot more than having the requisite technical knowledge. Its the ability to manage parents (never easy), young men and officials without succumbing to one's emotions. As I look back at my development as a coach, I was fortunate to have been mentored by head coaches who had great leadership skilss and sideline tempermant. I always (sometimes unsuccessfully) to learn something from every coach I worked with. Does that mean these mentor coaches never had conflicts with parents, players and referees. Heck no, but it means they weren't shrill or immature in their approach to a situation. MM is a great coach who needs to self reflect on his tempermant and improve it just like he did with his game at UZOO. He has a great passion for the game and would be an excellent coach if he worked hard on controlling his emotions.

All coaches have issues with refs from time to time. Most of them are just not as dramatic as the 91MD and Diamondback blowups a this year.

Most of the tryouts are over and even though there was a lot of talk of teams losing or gaining gaining kids, it seems like everyone mostly stayed where they were. Agree?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the tryouts are over and even though there was a lot of talk of teams losing or gaining gaining kids, it seems like everyone mostly stayed where they were. Agree?

No. Not at all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the tryouts are over and even though there was a lot of talk of teams losing or gaining gaining kids, it seems like everyone mostly stayed where they were. Agree?

No. Not at all

What teams lost or gained more than 3 or 4 decent players?

Try outs are still going on ! Clubs still have more time also to choose.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Try outs are still going on ! Clubs still have more time also to choose.

The Baltimore clubs are done. The Bethesda clubs still have a week left.

Fca the team to beat now. Added more holdbacks

Crabs beat FCA in the spring and will beat them this fall too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs beat FCA in the spring and will beat them this fall too

That will be hard to do if Crabs really lost half their starters and only a handful of new kids showed up at tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs beat FCA in the spring and will beat them this fall too

That will be hard to do if Crabs really lost half their starters and only a handful of new kids showed up at tryouts.

Crabs didn't lose half their starters. There was a very small number of kids at tryouts however.

That is not correct--all Crab core players back, but team did lose some non-starters. Crab team will now be smaller, and the better players will be expected to play more minutes.

Heard Team 90+1 had a small turnout like the Crabs. FCA supposedly had a big turnout and API is losing many kids. Where is everyone going?

FCA will be better through additions, Crabs will be better through subtractions....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Team 90+1 had a small turnout like the Crabs. FCA supposedly had a big turnout and API is losing many kids. Where is everyone going?

Hawks maybe

How did Hawks do? Gain any? Lose any? I will admit, I was one of people on here last fall disputing how they could go from 4th place to being at the top.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA will be better through additions, Crabs will be better through subtractions....

Crabs already rarely used their bench. How are they better through subtraction by giving their starters even fewer breathers?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Hawks do? Gain any? Lose any? I will admit, I was one of people on here last fall disputing how they could go from 4th place to being at the top.

Hawks not likely to get any of the kids from north of Baltimore. Maybe Hawks will get a dback or cannon kid or two.

Hawks fly kids in from out of state 3 . Have kids from 7 different counties and 13 different school zones. Annapolis Hawks they are not.

Crabs have a long way to go , they were 5th best last year

All the teams out there have kids from different schools,counties etc. Its club ball. Rec ball if for kids within their town or county. Teams have not even been announced . Lets not start in on the jealousy and winning about a team your kid did make.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks fly kids in from out of state 3 . Have kids from 7 different counties and 13 different school zones. Annapolis Hawks they are not.

Even with all that, none are from north of Baltimore. Traffic is that bad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Hawks do? Gain any? Lose any? I will admit, I was one of people on here last fall disputing how they could go from 4th place to being at the top.

Hawks not likely to get any of the kids from north of Baltimore. Maybe Hawks will get a dback or cannon kid or two.

if they grab 2 dbacks and a Cannon I guess the Hawks would be better but more importantly those programs would get decimated. Dbacks have been spotted at other tryouts too

Whatever. Starting Dbacks not going anywhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whatever. Starting Dbacks not going anywhere.

Good, all the unemployment the state would have to pay for the coaches out of a job would cause my taxes to shoot up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whatever. Starting Dbacks not going anywhere.

No starting middies going to Hawks?

STOP

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whatever. Starting Dbacks not going anywhere.

No starting middies going to Hawks?

A lot of Hawks players would get cut then😀😀

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whatever. Starting Dbacks not going anywhere.

No starting middies going to Hawks?

A lot of Hawks players would get cut then😀😀

Dbacks will run the table this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Only clubs still having tryouts are the ones that pick up the scraps after the top clubs fill their rosters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whatever. Starting Dbacks not going anywhere.

No starting middies going to Hawks?

A lot of Hawks players would get cut then😀😀

Dbacks will run the table this year.

It's good to have goals. Hope those added free supplemental tryouts get you all the kids you need to do it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Only clubs still having tryouts are the ones that pick up the scraps after the top clubs fill their rosters.

Like VLC....

That must be why 3D started their tryouts back on the 7th. They are the top club and wanted to poach all the best talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Only clubs still having tryouts are the ones that pick up the scraps after the top clubs fill their rosters.

Like VLC....

That must be why 3D started their tryouts back on the 7th. They are the top club and wanted to poach all the best talent.

3d is the top club? LOL. After the top 3 of BW, Madlax and VLC, 3d might be behind NL and Cavalier at this point.

Actually, Madlax just started their tryouts today. Learn the landscape. All the DMV clubs started in the last couple weeks. The other guys were talking about MD clubs, who started much earlier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Only clubs still having tryouts are the ones that pick up the scraps after the top clubs fill their rosters.

Like VLC....

That must be why 3D started their tryouts back on the 7th. They are the top club and wanted to poach all the best talent.

This is the 1st year for Vlc 2022. Where are their kids coming from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whatever. Starting Dbacks not going anywhere.

No starting middies going to Hawks?

A lot of Hawks players would get cut then😀😀

Dbacks will run the table this year.

It's good to have goals. Hope those added free supplemental tryouts get you all the kids you need to do it.

Nope. All dbacks returning minus one non starter. Expanded roster with 4 or 5 new kids from other clubs. Any supplemental is purely for trying to field a second team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whatever. Starting Dbacks not going anywhere.

No starting middies going to Hawks?

A lot of Hawks players would get cut then😀😀

Dbacks will run the table this year.

It's good to have goals. Hope those added free supplemental tryouts get you all the kids you need to do it.

Nope. All dbacks returning minus one non starter. Expanded roster with 4 or 5 new kids from other clubs. Any supplemental is purely for trying to field a second team.

Shiver me timbers.....we might have to leave the state now

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whatever. Starting Dbacks not going anywhere.

No starting middies going to Hawks?

A lot of Hawks players would get cut then😀😀

Dbacks will run the table this year.

It's good to have goals. Hope those added free supplemental tryouts get you all the kids you need to do it.

Nope. All dbacks returning minus one non starter. Expanded roster with 4 or 5 new kids from other clubs. Any supplemental is purely for trying to field a second team.

If the roster expanded by 4 to 5 kids, should we expect to see 2 to 3 more coaches on the sidelines.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Only clubs still having tryouts are the ones that pick up the scraps after the top clubs fill their rosters.

Like VLC....

That must be why 3D started their tryouts back on the 7th. They are the top club and wanted to poach all the best talent.

This is the 1st year for Vlc 2022. Where are their kids coming from?

Kid's that haven't played club before or are coming from typical hum drum feeder club's like Cavalier, Battlelax etc....I can't really speak to the MD side, but there are typically quite a few Bethesda and surrounding area kid's on VLC rosters as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Only clubs still having tryouts are the ones that pick up the scraps after the top clubs fill their rosters.

You mean scraps and POS like you!!! Nice way to talk about kids d bag.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Only clubs still having tryouts are the ones that pick up the scraps after the top clubs fill their rosters.

You mean scraps and POS like you!!! Nice way to talk about kids d bag.

Wow. What a jerk off talking about kids like they are table food for dogs.

We hope all the teams play each other a few times this year , either in tournaments or league play. Great competitive games last year but not all teams played each other and some played too much against each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is not correct--all Crab core players back, but team did lose some non-starters. Crab team will now be smaller, and the better players will be expected to play more minutes.

I saw one of the 2022 Crabs listed on the 2023 Crabs this season. Misprint?

RR picking up a few kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is not correct--all Crab core players back, but team did lose some non-starters. Crab team will now be smaller, and the better players will be expected to play more minutes.

I saw one of the 2022 Crabs listed on the 2023 Crabs this season. Misprint?

Hahaha Classic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Only clubs still having tryouts are the ones that pick up the scraps after the top clubs fill their rosters.

You mean scraps and POS like you!!! Nice way to talk about kids d bag.

Wow. What a jerk off talking about kids like they are table food for dogs.

No team has yet to be made final? must be a lot of uncertainty out there for parents and kids. Good Competition all around

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is not correct--all Crab core players back, but team did lose some non-starters. Crab team will now be smaller, and the better players will be expected to play more minutes.

I saw one of the 2022 Crabs listed on the 2023 Crabs this season. Misprint?

No misprint. Repeating 6th grade

Any word on BLC tryouts? Heard this organization (DC Express for 2021 and above) is making a big push to be best option in DMV and even keep local DMV Crab kids home...

Will have a long way to go to overtake Madlax.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on BLC tryouts? Heard this organization (DC Express for 2021 and above) is making a big push to be best option in DMV and even keep local DMV Crab kids home...

the 2022 attackman that used to play up on the 2021 BLC went to 2022 Crabs instead of BLC 2022.

Not sure if there is anything to read into that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will have a long way to go to overtake Madlax.....

Except for a couple of years, BW and VLC are better clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on BLC tryouts? Heard this organization (DC Express for 2021 and above) is making a big push to be best option in DMV and even keep local DMV Crab kids home...

LOL. They have one good team. That's it. Probably the 7th best club in the DMV right now.

Basically same roster as last spring.

Among clubs with youth teams I would put Madlax at 1, followed by BLC for DMV. BW and VLC come into play in HS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Only clubs still having tryouts are the ones that pick up the scraps after the top clubs fill their rosters.

Like VLC....

That must be why 3D started their tryouts back on the 7th. They are the top club and wanted to poach all the best talent.

This is the 1st year for Vlc 2022. Where are their kids coming from?

Only 3 kids showing up on the Vlc 2022 roster. Struggling to get kids or slow to update website?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Only clubs still having tryouts are the ones that pick up the scraps after the top clubs fill their rosters.

Like VLC....

That must be why 3D started their tryouts back on the 7th. They are the top club and wanted to poach all the best talent.

This is the 1st year for Vlc 2022. Where are their kids coming from?

Only 3 kids showing up on the Vlc 2022 roster. Struggling to get kids or slow to update website?

Invites just went out this afternoon. Players only show up on roster after they complete registration on Crabs/VLC website, not when they email accepting roster spot.

More clubs/more talent means no one team will dominate. But certain clubs like Crabs and FCA will still be at the top.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Only clubs still having tryouts are the ones that pick up the scraps after the top clubs fill their rosters.

Like VLC....

That must be why 3D started their tryouts back on the 7th. They are the top club and wanted to poach all the best talent.

This is the 1st year for Vlc 2022. Where are their kids coming from?

Only 3 kids showing up on the Vlc 2022 roster. Struggling to get kids or slow to update website?

Invites just went out this afternoon. Players only show up on roster after they complete registration on Crabs/VLC website, not when they email accepting roster spot.

The tryouts were well-attended, and as the PP stated invites began to go out yesterday afternoon and will continue going out through Thursday evening.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has any Rosters been finalized ? Are Coaches finished evaluations? Other sports may have caused kids to miss some try out dates. What teams are set?

Only clubs still having tryouts are the ones that pick up the scraps after the top clubs fill their rosters.

Like VLC....

That must be why 3D started their tryouts back on the 7th. They are the top club and wanted to poach all the best talent.

LOL - every top club had their tryouts over the weekend 2 weeks ago and last weekend. 3D started theirs early likely in hopes that they could snatch some kids early so they possibly could move up to the second worst club in the area this year ;-)

All VLC invites went out. If you have not yet heard, it's because they are waiting to see whether they need to pull your kid off the bench. Madlax has a deadline tomorrow. Seems like FCA and Crabs got a huge jump on these cats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All VLC invites went out. If you have not yet heard, it's because they are waiting to see whether they need to pull your kid off the bench. Madlax has a deadline tomorrow. Seems like FCA and Crabs got a huge jump on these cats.

Crabs had their tryouts on the weekends of 8/16 and 8/21. VLC had their tryouts on the weekends of 8/14 and 8/28. FCA had their tryouts on the weekend of 8/7 and had to schedule a second for 8/21 due to people not being around. Madlax had their tryouts between 8/25 and 8/29. What's the huge jump? Crabs and FCA are not competing for NoVa players - no one is driving to Baltimore for practices, let's be honest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like FCA and Crabs got a huge jump on these cats.

Um, no. Crabs has a handful of kids from the DMV. FCA has more, but the DMV is not their base. When their tryouts occurred had very little bearing on the DMV clubs.

What do you guys think the M in DMV stands for? Are you under the impression that the DMV is strictly the DC metropolitan area? Seems about right for DC to think that.

Typically, about 2-5 kids from DC suburbs will make the trip Baltimore to play for FCA and Crabs. There is nothing comparable to those 2 clubs in grades 5th though 8th in the DMV.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do you guys think the M in DMV stands for? Are you under the impression that the DMV is strictly the DC metropolitan area? Seems about right for DC to think that.

Are you really that stupid? The M in the DMV is primarily Montgomery County and PG County. For lacrosse purposes, the MD clubs can get a few Montgomery County kids to make the drive (even a few VA), but generally their base is MD except for Montgomery County.

If you think Maryland (especially around Baltmore views Montgomery County as the same as the rest of the state, you are either a newcomer or an imbecile.

The points is the timing of the Crabs, FCA or any other "MD" club tryout really had no impact on kids in this area except for a handful.

VLC 2020 Team looks light on their website

Sorry... VLC 2022 Team looks light on their website

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry... VLC 2022 Team looks light on their website

As someone mentioned earlier, the way the Crabs/VLC website works is that in order to be shown on the roster online, you have to login, register, and pay - they have 12 right now, most people will be registering this week and the roster on the site will round out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More clubs/more talent means no one team will dominate. But certain clubs like Crabs and FCA will still be at the top.

Just like last year when Crabs finished 4th and FCA finished 6th in HoCo.

Total fluke that T91MD, DBacks, and Hawks finished ahead of them and Madlax easily bumped Crabs out of playoffs.

FCA and Crabs did well in B level tournaments over the summer, but didn't make a peep in the better attended events.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More clubs/more talent means no one team will dominate. But certain clubs like Crabs and FCA will still be at the top.

Just like last year when Crabs finished 4th and FCA finished 6th in HoCo.

Total fluke that T91MD, DBacks, and Hawks finished ahead of them and Madlax easily bumped Crabs out of playoffs.

FCA and Crabs did well in B level tournaments over the summer, but didn't make a peep in the better attended events.

You are a complete moron - Crabs performed less than stellar but played nothing less than top AA tourneys all year. No B tourneys played troll....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More clubs/more talent means no one team will dominate. But certain clubs like Crabs and FCA will still be at the top.

Just like last year when Crabs finished 4th and FCA finished 6th in HoCo.

Total fluke that T91MD, DBacks, and Hawks finished ahead of them and Madlax easily bumped Crabs out of playoffs.

FCA and Crabs did well in B level tournaments over the summer, but didn't make a peep in the better attended events.

You are a complete moron - Crabs performed less than stellar but played nothing less than top AA tourneys all year. No B tourneys played troll....

And they made a peep in which tourney?

Did Igloo put out their tryout results yet???

Any of the good teams implode? Who benefitted? Been hearing FCA may be the team to beat this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any of the good teams implode? Who benefitted? Been hearing FCA may be the team to beat this year.

Team 91 Force(MD) imploded. It was fun to watch.

2022 FCA and Crabs were fine last year and will be better this year...and will not suffer implosion like other teams. Knowledgeable lax families understand that these are the 2 clubs to play for if the ultimate goal is to play for a top college program with outstanding academics. Along the way the boys have fun, get great coaching and most will have great college options. That's why as families we support these programs. Argue all you want about win/loss records in HOCO, tournament results and even holdbacks, but we are keeping our focus on our long-term goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More clubs/more talent means no one team will dominate. But certain clubs like Crabs and FCA will still be at the top.

Just like last year when Crabs finished 4th and FCA finished 6th in HoCo.

Total fluke that T91MD, DBacks, and Hawks finished ahead of them and Madlax easily bumped Crabs out of playoffs.

FCA and Crabs did well in B level tournaments over the summer, but didn't make a peep in the better attended events.

You are a complete moron - Crabs performed less than stellar but played nothing less than top AA tourneys all year. No B tourneys played troll....

And they made a peep in which tourney?

They made finals up at Hill School and led Express at half. Made Semis of Young Guns.

2022 FCA and Crabs were fine last year and will be better this year...and will not suffer implosion like other teams. Knowledgeable lax families understand that these are the 2 clubs to play for if the ultimate goal is to play for a top college program with outstanding academics. Along the way the boys have fun, get great coaching and most will have great college options. That's why as families we support these programs. Argue all you want about win/loss records in HOCO, tournament results and even holdbacks, but we are keeping our focus on our long-term goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2022 FCA and Crabs were fine last year and will be better this year...and will not suffer implosion like other teams. Knowledgeable lax families understand that these are the 2 clubs to play for if the ultimate goal is to play for a top college program with outstanding academics. Along the way the boys have fun, get great coaching and most will have great college options. That's why as families we support these programs. Argue all you want about win/loss records in HOCO, tournament results and even holdbacks, but we are keeping our focus on our long-term goals.

And what are your long term goals, teaching kids it is ok to cheat and game the system via the holdback route? Both of these clubs are loaded with holdbacks. Use to be that Crabs was by far the leader in this category but FCA is quickly catching up and maybe equal to Crabs in the number of holdbacks.
So just keep you eye on your so called long term goals, telling the kids they look much stronger as a player when they play kids 1 to 2 years younger. Life lessons here are being destroyed by cheating but your kind don't seem to care, as long as your little johnny looks good at any cost. Outstanding academics, what a f'in joke.

You are an angry person who needs a reality check--holdbacks at 2022 level are non-existent. But keep deluding yourself if it makes you feel better. FCA and Crabs will continue to offer the best choice for families who have goals beyond winning 6th grade HOCO championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2022 FCA and Crabs were fine last year and will be better this year...and will not suffer implosion like other teams. Knowledgeable lax families understand that these are the 2 clubs to play for if the ultimate goal is to play for a top college program with outstanding academics. Along the way the boys have fun, get great coaching and most will have great college options. That's why as families we support these programs. Argue all you want about win/loss records in HOCO, tournament results and even holdbacks, but we are keeping our focus on our long-term goals.

And what are your long term goals, teaching kids it is ok to cheat and game the system via the holdback route? Both of these clubs are loaded with holdbacks. Use to be that Crabs was by far the leader in this category but FCA is quickly catching up and maybe equal to Crabs in the number of holdbacks.
So just keep you eye on your so called long term goals, telling the kids they look much stronger as a player when they play kids 1 to 2 years younger. Life lessons here are being destroyed by cheating but your kind don't seem to care, as long as your little johnny looks good at any cost. Outstanding academics, what a f'in joke.

I dislike the holdback system as much as anyone. But can anyone I mean anyone find any club from NY to NC that has grade base teams but also adds a age limit for these teams. I am guessing you will not be able to find one. So we all can agree there are kids who reclass correct. These kids need somewhere to play. And I can not find a single club with a NO HOLDBACK policy on the website. So call out 1 or 5 different clubs over and over again please have fun. But until the club your son plays for puts no holdbacks on the website move your efforts to the parents or the tournament leaders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are an angry person who needs a reality check--holdbacks at 2022 level are non-existent. But keep deluding yourself if it makes you feel better. FCA and Crabs will continue to offer the best choice for families who have goals beyond winning 6th grade HOCO championship.

"holdbacks at 2022 level are non-existent"

what? you think the 2022 kids that did prefirst are playing 2021? please. This whole grade base is evil thing is over blown imo but to say it doesn't exist at younger ages is delusional.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are an angry person who needs a reality check--holdbacks at 2022 level are non-existent. But keep deluding yourself if it makes you feel better. FCA and Crabs will continue to offer the best choice for families who have goals beyond winning 6th grade HOCO championship.

Not angry at all, seems like you are the angry one for being called out and it doesn't sit well with you. As for a reality check, you really need this. If you think for one minute there are no holdbacks at the 2022 level, you are completely mad.
Crabs and FCA only offer a program designed to game the system and bottom line, how to cheat. Like was said a few posts ago, little johnny feels really good when he can dominate kids younger than him. And, the parents must feel so proud watching little johnny, "look dear, isn't our son terrific" while he plays younger kids.
Get a grip buddy, you are way off base and way out of your league.

LOL. There are many clubs that have just as many holdbacks as the Crabs. Clubs like Madlax, Duke's, Laxachusetts, etc.

Look, not sure why your son had a bad experience with one of these clubs, but 2022 FCA and Crabs have 99% on-age players (sure, maybe some kids with summer bdays, but every public grade school class in the US has these) and provide best long-term benefits for the players. Just deal with your anger and resentment in a more productive way. We will continue to move forward and I suggest you do the same instead of trolling teams you know nothing about. And if you need to vent more, I suggest you name the number of holdbacks on either 2022 team.

You can't identify players by name on this forum. Nor why would you want to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are an angry person who needs a reality check--holdbacks at 2022 level are non-existent. But keep deluding yourself if it makes you feel better. FCA and Crabs will continue to offer the best choice for families who have goals beyond winning 6th grade HOCO championship.

Not angry at all, seems like you are the angry one for being called out and it doesn't sit well with you. As for a reality check, you really need this. If you think for one minute there are no holdbacks at the 2022 level, you are completely mad.
Crabs and FCA only offer a program designed to game the system and bottom line, how to cheat. Like was said a few posts ago, little johnny feels really good when he can dominate kids younger than him. And, the parents must feel so proud watching little johnny, "look dear, isn't our son terrific" while he plays younger kids.
Get a grip buddy, you are way off base and way out of your league.

Literally every club team from Crabs to Looneys from 2025 to 2020 have kids on their teams that many would consider "holdbacks" (mainly kids from Private Schools that did a pre-first year) Team to team, the playing field is level.. IF your son is at the younger edge of the spectrum like mine, he'll just have to work a little bit harder to compete at the AA level which is not necessarily a bad thing. What's next? Are we going to start complaining about kids that are maturing earlier than others? Hitting puberty earlier? Trust in your sons ability to work hard and develop the skills around bigger slightly older kids.. Who knows, by the time highschool comes around they may be better players than the kids that relied solely on their difference in size.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look, not sure why your son had a bad experience with one of these clubs, but 2022 FCA and Crabs have 99% on-age players (sure, maybe some kids with summer bdays, but every public grade school class in the US has these) and provide best long-term benefits for the players. Just deal with your anger and resentment in a more productive way. We will continue to move forward and I suggest you do the same instead of trolling teams you know nothing about. And if you need to vent more, I suggest you name the number of holdbacks on either 2022 team.

There are at least 9 kids on Crabs 2022 with birthdays prior to 9/1/2003. There are 3 kids on FCA 2022.

Wrong

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look, not sure why your son had a bad experience with one of these clubs, but 2022 FCA and Crabs have 99% on-age players (sure, maybe some kids with summer bdays, but every public grade school class in the US has these) and provide best long-term benefits for the players. Just deal with your anger and resentment in a more productive way. We will continue to move forward and I suggest you do the same instead of trolling teams you know nothing about. And if you need to vent more, I suggest you name the number of holdbacks on either 2022 team.

There are at least 9 kids on Crabs 2022 with birthdays prior to 9/1/2003. There are 3 kids on FCA 2022.

My son knows most of the boys on both teams and Crabs does not have 9 kids held back although FCA's number is close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look, not sure why your son had a bad experience with one of these clubs, but 2022 FCA and Crabs have 99% on-age players (sure, maybe some kids with summer bdays, but every public grade school class in the US has these) and provide best long-term benefits for the players. Just deal with your anger and resentment in a more productive way. We will continue to move forward and I suggest you do the same instead of trolling teams you know nothing about. And if you need to vent more, I suggest you name the number of holdbacks on either 2022 team.

There are at least 9 kids on Crabs 2022 with birthdays prior to 9/1/2003. There are 3 kids on FCA 2022.

My son knows most of the boys on both teams and Crabs does not have 9 kids held back although FCA's number is close.

Crabs 2022 absolutely has 9 kids born before 9/1/2003. Call them what you want, holdbacks, prefirst, just started school late, whatever. All the McD kids, the new kid from Bethesda 2021, kids from Mater Dei. You really think there aren't 9? You are either lying or you just don't know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look, not sure why your son had a bad experience with one of these clubs, but 2022 FCA and Crabs have 99% on-age players (sure, maybe some kids with summer bdays, but every public grade school class in the US has these) and provide best long-term benefits for the players. Just deal with your anger and resentment in a more productive way. We will continue to move forward and I suggest you do the same instead of trolling teams you know nothing about. And if you need to vent more, I suggest you name the number of holdbacks on either 2022 team.

There are at least 9 kids on Crabs 2022 with birthdays prior to 9/1/2003. There are 3 kids on FCA 2022.

My son knows most of the boys on both teams and Crabs does not have 9 kids held back although FCA's number is close.

Crabs 2022 absolutely has 9 kids born before 9/1/2003. Call them what you want, holdbacks, prefirst, just started school late, whatever. All the McD kids, the new kid from Bethesda 2021, kids from Mater Dei. You really think there aren't 9? You are either lying or you just don't know.

There is at least 1 kid who was on 2022 Crabs last year...now on 2023

They should rename this forum site to be the "Holdback Complaint/Whining Forum". Truly unbelievable how many folks whine about this in every single age group for boys. It does no one any good at all to whine about it unless there is a plan to change to an age based system. In Baltimore, there will always be some kids who started Kindergarten at 6, went to pre-first, or even repeated a middle school grade. Different families have different reasons for doing so and no one should forget that very often those reasons are very valid ones that have nothing to do with size or athleticism. Just hold out a year or two�.they will all be in high school and there will no shortage of kids who are bigger than all the holdbacks! Someone should arrange a butt-kicking contest and offer front row seats to all of the whining parents so they can enjoy seeing all of those OH-SO-OLD holdbacks be taken down!

can we please just go back to making fun of api again? lets see if we can get their coach to try and fight someone again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should rename this forum site to be the "Holdback Complaint/Whining Forum". Truly unbelievable how many folks whine about this in every single age group for boys. It does no one any good at all to whine about it unless there is a plan to change to an age based system. In Baltimore, there will always be some kids who started Kindergarten at 6, went to pre-first, or even repeated a middle school grade. Different families have different reasons for doing so and no one should forget that very often those reasons are very valid ones that have nothing to do with size or athleticism. Just hold out a year or two�.they will all be in high school and there will no shortage of kids who are bigger than all the holdbacks! Someone should arrange a butt-kicking contest and offer front row seats to all of the whining parents so they can enjoy seeing all of those OH-SO-OLD holdbacks be taken down!

How about a butt kicking contest and we start with you? Stop trying to defend the holdback system and making excuses that blah blah blah lets just wait blah blah blah. If your kid can't cut it playing on age, get him to try harder, not that complicated.

Who did Hawks add this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More clubs/more talent means no one team will dominate. But certain clubs like Crabs and FCA will still be at the top.

Just like last year when Crabs finished 4th and FCA finished 6th in HoCo.

Total fluke that T91MD, DBacks, and Hawks finished ahead of them and Madlax easily bumped Crabs out of playoffs.

FCA and Crabs did well in B level tournaments over the summer, but didn't make a peep in the better attended events.

You are a complete moron - Crabs performed less than stellar but played nothing less than top AA tourneys all year. No B tourneys played troll....

Crabs did not even play 2 of the best teams at this age group last year at all. In a year where everyone played everyone at least twice. Between 2 leagues one right in their back yard and play days and tournaments. .Crabs at Young Guns was the most favorable bracket I have ever seen for a club . Teams in their bracket had played 2 games before they even got to the fields. Completely avoiding the same 2 top teams. FCA did come to play but was not successful against any of the top teams. Api , hawks and 89+2 .
Everyone is however expecting better teams from both because they will have a majority of players at least a year older. This is a fact . This is the year parents like you are exactly what those clubs hope come to their program.
And if you think that Crabs and Fca are the only programs to put out collegiate players then you really are just fooling any else. ling yourself. you surely aren't fooling anyone else. Try going on other clubs websites and look for yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did Hawks add this year?

Doesn't matter who they got, API is the team to beat.

So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did Hawks add this year?

Doesn't matter who they got, API is the team to beat.

Do you mean the API team that is having a supplemental tryout for their team? Great teams always have supplemental tryouts said no one ever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are an angry person who needs a reality check--holdbacks at 2022 level are non-existent. But keep deluding yourself if it makes you feel better. FCA and Crabs will continue to offer the best choice for families who have goals beyond winning 6th grade HOCO championship.

Not angry at all, seems like you are the angry one for being called out and it doesn't sit well with you. As for a reality check, you really need this. If you think for one minute there are no holdbacks at the 2022 level, you are completely mad.
Crabs and FCA only offer a program designed to game the system and bottom line, how to cheat. Like was said a few posts ago, little johnny feels really good when he can dominate kids younger than him. And, the parents must feel so proud watching little johnny, "look dear, isn't our son terrific" while he plays younger kids.
Get a grip buddy, you are way off base and way out of your league.

You do realize FCA as s club didn't exist when most of the families made the decision to hold back their kids. FCA or most clubs have absolutely zero to do with families making a personal decision. And no it's not cheating because cheating requires one to break a rule that exists. No law against pre-first or repeating a year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did Hawks add this year?

Doesn't matter who they got, API is the team to beat.

I heard api added 6 new dads to the sideline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Any chance there could be a Fall Elite Eight? That was the best tournament all spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did Hawks add this year?

Doesn't matter who they got, API is the team to beat.

I heard api added 6 new dads to the sideline.

And the removed the specs of red and blue from the uniforms as well. They are now even more depressing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are an angry person who needs a reality check--holdbacks at 2022 level are non-existent. But keep deluding yourself if it makes you feel better. FCA and Crabs will continue to offer the best choice for families who have goals beyond winning 6th grade HOCO championship.

Not angry at all, seems like you are the angry one for being called out and it doesn't sit well with you. As for a reality check, you really need this. If you think for one minute there are no holdbacks at the 2022 level, you are completely mad.
Crabs and FCA only offer a program designed to game the system and bottom line, how to cheat. Like was said a few posts ago, little johnny feels really good when he can dominate kids younger than him. And, the parents must feel so proud watching little johnny, "look dear, isn't our son terrific" while he plays younger kids.
Get a grip buddy, you are way off base and way out of your league.

You do realize FCA as s club didn't exist when most of the families made the decision to hold back their kids. FCA or most clubs have absolutely zero to do with families making a personal decision. And no it's not cheating because cheating requires one to break a rule that exists. No law against pre-first or repeating a year.

Correct in rules are not being broken. Glad that makes you feel better. And almost every club out there didn't exist when these kids where in kindergarten or 1st grade and EVERY club at that time only had u13 or higher teams. Clubs have nothing to do with parental decisions but do advocate and lobby for those kids who are being held back now in 6th or 7th, 8th and high school and possibly even earlier for what ever the reasons . Holdbacks at an early age are one thing but to do it now to gain an advantage on a sporting field is cheating all that is good in sports. Every team has them but some actually promote it and that to most honest people is sad .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More clubs/more talent means no one team will dominate. But certain clubs like Crabs and FCA will still be at the top.

Just like last year when Crabs finished 4th and FCA finished 6th in HoCo.

Total fluke that T91MD, DBacks, and Hawks finished ahead of them and Madlax easily bumped Crabs out of playoffs.

FCA and Crabs did well in B level tournaments over the summer, but didn't make a peep in the better attended events.

You are a complete moron - Crabs performed less than stellar but played nothing less than top AA tourneys all year. No B tourneys played troll....

Crabs did not even play 2 of the best teams at this age group last year at all. In a year where everyone played everyone at least twice. Between 2 leagues one right in their back yard and play days and tournaments. .Crabs at Young Guns was the most favorable bracket I have ever seen for a club . Teams in their bracket had played 2 games before they even got to the fields. Completely avoiding the same 2 top teams. FCA did come to play but was not successful against any of the top teams. Api , hawks and 89+2 .
Everyone is however expecting better teams from both because they will have a majority of players at least a year older. This is a fact . This is the year parents like you are exactly what those clubs hope come to their program.
And if you think that Crabs and Fca are the only programs to put out collegiate players then you really are just fooling any else. ling yourself. you surely aren't fooling anyone else. Try going on other clubs websites and look for yourself.

You do realize that FCA beat 89+2 and API last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did Hawks add this year?

Doesn't matter who they got, API is the team to beat.

I heard api added 6 new dads to the sideline.

That's all? No wonder they are having supplemental tryouts. Still some unclaimed lime green whistle lanyards.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did Hawks add this year?

Doesn't matter who they got, API is the team to beat.

Do you mean the API team that is having a supplemental tryout for their team? Great teams always have supplemental tryouts said no one ever.

And they waived the $50 tryout fee.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did Hawks add this year?

Doesn't matter who they got, API is the team to beat.

I heard api added 6 new dads to the sideline.

And the removed the specs of red and blue from the uniforms as well. They are now even more depressing.

Hahahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More clubs/more talent means no one team will dominate. But certain clubs like Crabs and FCA will still be at the top.

Just like last year when Crabs finished 4th and FCA finished 6th in HoCo.

Total fluke that T91MD, DBacks, and Hawks finished ahead of them and Madlax easily bumped Crabs out of playoffs.

FCA and Crabs did well in B level tournaments over the summer, but didn't make a peep in the better attended events.

You are a complete moron - Crabs performed less than stellar but played nothing less than top AA tourneys all year. No B tourneys played troll....

Crabs did not even play 2 of the best teams at this age group last year at all. In a year where everyone played everyone at least twice. Between 2 leagues one right in their back yard and play days and tournaments. .Crabs at Young Guns was the most favorable bracket I have ever seen for a club . Teams in their bracket had played 2 games before they even got to the fields. Completely avoiding the same 2 top teams. FCA did come to play but was not successful against any of the top teams. Api , hawks and 89+2 .
Everyone is however expecting better teams from both because they will have a majority of players at least a year older. This is a fact . This is the year parents like you are exactly what those clubs hope come to their program.
And if you think that Crabs and Fca are the only programs to put out collegiate players then you really are just fooling any else. ling yourself. you surely aren't fooling anyone else. Try going on other clubs websites and look for yourself.

You do realize that FCA beat 89+2 and API last year?

thanks for the clarifications , I am a bit tipsy spewing on here..

Just be careful of your next year. You may enjoy Crabs at the 7th grade level, but the 8th grade level with Ryan M at the lead is horrible. Too many stories to tell here. Sure, a few parents appear to be happy since the end goal is to get committed to college, but the rest of the players are just pawns in their game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should rename this forum site to be the "Holdback Complaint/Whining Forum". Truly unbelievable how many folks whine about this in every single age group for boys. It does no one any good at all to whine about it unless there is a plan to change to an age based system. In Baltimore, there will always be some kids who started Kindergarten at 6, went to pre-first, or even repeated a middle school grade. Different families have different reasons for doing so and no one should forget that very often those reasons are very valid ones that have nothing to do with size or athleticism. Just hold out a year or two�.they will all be in high school and there will no shortage of kids who are bigger than all the holdbacks! Someone should arrange a butt-kicking contest and offer front row seats to all of the whining parents so they can enjoy seeing all of those OH-SO-OLD holdbacks be taken down!

How about a butt kicking contest and we start with you? Stop trying to defend the holdback system and making excuses that blah blah blah lets just wait blah blah blah. If your kid can't cut it playing on age, get him to try harder, not that complicated.

My kid has played up for the last three years and he is absolutely better for it. The point of youth lacrosse, especially at the middle school level, is to prepare kids for what they will see in high school. It is absolutely unrealistic to get your panties in a wad about a kid who is a few weeks or months older than the 9/1 date. I agree with the other comment about the fact that there is no rule that has been broken if kids are completing a pre-first year. They are playing with their class. It's just flat out soft to complain about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should rename this forum site to be the "Holdback Complaint/Whining Forum". Truly unbelievable how many folks whine about this in every single age group for boys. It does no one any good at all to whine about it unless there is a plan to change to an age based system. In Baltimore, there will always be some kids who started Kindergarten at 6, went to pre-first, or even repeated a middle school grade. Different families have different reasons for doing so and no one should forget that very often those reasons are very valid ones that have nothing to do with size or athleticism. Just hold out a year or two�.they will all be in high school and there will no shortage of kids who are bigger than all the holdbacks! Someone should arrange a butt-kicking contest and offer front row seats to all of the whining parents so they can enjoy seeing all of those OH-SO-OLD holdbacks be taken down!

How about a butt kicking contest and we start with you? Stop trying to defend the holdback system and making excuses that blah blah blah lets just wait blah blah blah. If your kid can't cut it playing on age, get him to try harder, not that complicated.

My kid has played up for the last three years and he is absolutely better for it. The point of youth lacrosse, especially at the middle school level, is to prepare kids for what they will see in high school. It is absolutely unrealistic to get your panties in a wad about a kid who is a few weeks or months older than the 9/1 date. I agree with the other comment about the fact that there is no rule that has been broken if kids are completing a pre-first year. They are playing with their class. It's just flat out soft to complain about it.

You miss the point of youth sports. Lacrosse is the only sport that somehow justifies letting a select group of older children play down.

And you talk out of both sides of your mouth.. First you say your son is playing up and everyone else should man up. But for some reason that does not apply to the kids that are the heldback and oldest. Any reason they shouldnt man up?? They are not just older than everyone by a few weeks . They would be only that much older if everyone was born on Sept 1...Most kids are born in the entire 12 month period..So these holdbacks are anywhere from 1-12 months older the majority of kids at the very minimum. With many being 4 to 16 months older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should rename this forum site to be the "Holdback Complaint/Whining Forum". Truly unbelievable how many folks whine about this in every single age group for boys. It does no one any good at all to whine about it unless there is a plan to change to an age based system. In Baltimore, there will always be some kids who started Kindergarten at 6, went to pre-first, or even repeated a middle school grade. Different families have different reasons for doing so and no one should forget that very often those reasons are very valid ones that have nothing to do with size or athleticism. Just hold out a year or two�.they will all be in high school and there will no shortage of kids who are bigger than all the holdbacks! Someone should arrange a butt-kicking contest and offer front row seats to all of the whining parents so they can enjoy seeing all of those OH-SO-OLD holdbacks be taken down!

How about a butt kicking contest and we start with you? Stop trying to defend the holdback system and making excuses that blah blah blah lets just wait blah blah blah. If your kid can't cut it playing on age, get him to try harder, not that complicated.

My kid has played up for the last three years and he is absolutely better for it. The point of youth lacrosse, especially at the middle school level, is to prepare kids for what they will see in high school. It is absolutely unrealistic to get your panties in a wad about a kid who is a few weeks or months older than the 9/1 date. I agree with the other comment about the fact that there is no rule that has been broken if kids are completing a pre-first year. They are playing with their class. It's just flat out soft to complain about it.

You miss the point of youth sports. Lacrosse is the only sport that somehow justifies letting a select group of older children play down.

And you talk out of both sides of your mouth.. First you say your son is playing up and everyone else should man up. But for some reason that does not apply to the kids that are the heldback and oldest. Any reason they shouldnt man up?? They are not just older than everyone by a few weeks . They would be only that much older if everyone was born on Sept 1...Most kids are born in the entire 12 month period..So these holdbacks are anywhere from 1-12 months older the majority of kids at the very minimum. With many being 4 to 16 months older.

I think you're misinformed like all of the complainers about holdbacks. Lacrosse is not the only sport. You are comparing club lacrosse to rec basketball, football, etc. Rec lacrosse is age based. Don't say the problem is lacrosse, trying to damage the reputation of the sport I'm assuming your son plays. The proper comparison would be club lacrosse to AAU basketball and Grassroots football and other similar club level leagues (most of which are grade based). If you don't like club lacrosse, move to an aged based league, just like those who prefer rec over AAU or Grassroots football.

Any fall leagues starting?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should rename this forum site to be the "Holdback Complaint/Whining Forum". Truly unbelievable how many folks whine about this in every single age group for boys. It does no one any good at all to whine about it unless there is a plan to change to an age based system. In Baltimore, there will always be some kids who started Kindergarten at 6, went to pre-first, or even repeated a middle school grade. Different families have different reasons for doing so and no one should forget that very often those reasons are very valid ones that have nothing to do with size or athleticism. Just hold out a year or two�.they will all be in high school and there will no shortage of kids who are bigger than all the holdbacks! Someone should arrange a butt-kicking contest and offer front row seats to all of the whining parents so they can enjoy seeing all of those OH-SO-OLD holdbacks be taken down!

How about a butt kicking contest and we start with you? Stop trying to defend the holdback system and making excuses that blah blah blah lets just wait blah blah blah. If your kid can't cut it playing on age, get him to try harder, not that complicated.

My kid has played up for the last three years and he is absolutely better for it. The point of youth lacrosse, especially at the middle school level, is to prepare kids for what they will see in high school. It is absolutely unrealistic to get your panties in a wad about a kid who is a few weeks or months older than the 9/1 date. I agree with the other comment about the fact that there is no rule that has been broken if kids are completing a pre-first year. They are playing with their class. It's just flat out soft to complain about it.

You miss the point of youth sports. Lacrosse is the only sport that somehow justifies letting a select group of older children play down.

And you talk out of both sides of your mouth.. First you say your son is playing up and everyone else should man up. But for some reason that does not apply to the kids that are the heldback and oldest. Any reason they shouldnt man up?? They are not just older than everyone by a few weeks . They would be only that much older if everyone was born on Sept 1...Most kids are born in the entire 12 month period..So these holdbacks are anywhere from 1-12 months older the majority of kids at the very minimum. With many being 4 to 16 months older.

I think you're misinformed like all of the complainers about holdbacks. Lacrosse is not the only sport. You are comparing club lacrosse to rec basketball, football, etc. Rec lacrosse is age based. Don't say the problem is lacrosse, trying to damage the reputation of the sport I'm assuming your son plays. The proper comparison would be club lacrosse to AAU basketball and Grassroots football and other similar club level leagues (most of which are grade based). If you don't like club lacrosse, move to an aged based league, just like those who prefer rec over AAU or Grassroots football.

Talking about Youth....Soccer with many times more people playing and more popular along with many more opportunities is age base. They have a worldwide age based system that US follows. Competitive Baseball is age base. I dont know what Football u have seen , but all competitive Football in Texas and Florida is Age based along with other states. Grass roots lets several grades compete but you always get to be older one day..

AAU just went to grade base along with age base and it is a complete mess. You think the vitriol is bad here..go to any site discussing this.There are Facebook pages dedicated to restore the system back to age. Several top AAU programs will not compete against other grade base programs.

So just one of your examples is TRYING to go grade base and it is worst than lacrosse due to the participation of many more children.

I am not damaging lacrosse by insisting grade base is wrong at youth level. The damage is coming from a system that allows select certain players to be older than anyone else.Playing down with select kids goes against all youth lacrosse stands for. Doesnt take much Common sense to figure that out.School teams are were you can get your advantage.

Good luck to all the teams ! Exciting time for the kids with new teammates and old ones. Very compettive group . Holdbacks or not , Im glad my kid gets tested all year in a great sport. Good luck to all the coaches that put in the time with our kids to make them better along with listening to parents whine an cry all year long, who think they know more than them. Good luck to refs who deal with it all from inside the lines to outside the lines.
Good luck to all the parents out there who think their child is the next Rabil .
#letthemplay
#lovethegame

The Bethesda 2021 boy who is now with Crabs 2022 is a 2022 and is a 2022 by birthdate A September 2003 - just been playing up a grade - since 1st grade - now on grade.

More cannons moving to the Hawks? Saw a bunch at tryouts did they all make it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RR picking up a few kids

Picked up some Diamondback's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RR picking up a few kids

Picked up some Diamondback's.

did the dad coaches go with them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More cannons moving to the Hawks? Saw a bunch at tryouts did they all make it?

STOP

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More cannons moving to the Hawks? Saw a bunch at tryouts did they all make it?

STOP

Lol. I love how this guy keeps asking about the Hawks? Im sure when one of their dads or players comes on here you will get your answer. Until then , Best bet is to assume they will be very good like last year.

And what does it matter where they picked up players. Looks like all teams have swapped players here and there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR

Crabs? Bethesda?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR

Crabs? Bethesda?

Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR

Crabs? Bethesda?

Dont forget MM team 9 and 1 team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR

Crabs? Bethesda?

Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.

So the fact that Crabs was 4-0 last year against FCA and RR doesn't put them above them on your list?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR

Crabs? Bethesda?

Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.

Its funny, Crabs easily beats both FCA and RR yet their record speaks for itself ???? When did your son get cut from Crabs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR

Crabs? Bethesda?

Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.

Hawks
API
MadLax
Crabs
89+2
RR
FCA

MADLAX didn't do anything in tournaments at all even after consolidating holdbacks and money machine into one super power flop of a tourney team

Team Maryland lost by 10 to the Hawks end of the year. Bethesda 4-0-1 at NLF.
FCA/RR - pick up any crabs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR

Crabs? Bethesda?

Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.

Its funny, Crabs easily beats both FCA and RR yet their record speaks for itself ???? When did your son get cut from Crabs?

relax fat crab ! this was just a best guess! mix the bottom of that list any way you want. Crabs did not compete against the top half of that list! Period!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR

Crabs? Bethesda?

Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.

Its funny, Crabs easily beats both FCA and RR yet their record speaks for itself ???? When did your son get cut from Crabs?

Classic reply. Throw the bait in water and the Crabs can't help themselves .. Hilarious

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR

Crabs? Bethesda?

Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.

Hawks
API
MadLax
Crabs
89+2
RR
FCA

FCA beat 89+2 and API last year. The fact is all these teams can beat one another. It's good that things are competitive. No reason ranking them in September. It's stupid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So where is the new list of teams from the top to bottom. Pre season list.
Fall tournaments right around the corner?

Here is a best guess , after the ending the teams had last year.

Hawks
Team Maryland
API
FCA
MadLax
RR

Crabs? Bethesda?

Add them to the bottom of the list.
Bethesda was only good for 1 tournament which they brought guest players.
Crabs schedule and record speaks for itself.

Hawks
API
MadLax
Crabs
89+2
RR
FCA

FCA beat 89+2 and API last year. The fact is all these teams can beat one another. It's good that things are competitive. No reason ranking them in September. It's stupid.

Agreed its stupid. But it is also a lot of fun. these guys can't wait to jump on a list that means absolutely nothing.

Best guess for the up coming season

FCA
Hawks
Crabs
API
Madlax

Top 5

Last year means nothing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who did Hawks add this year?

Doesn't matter who they got, API is the team to beat.

I heard api added 6 new dads to the sideline.

That's all? No wonder they are having supplemental tryouts. Still some unclaimed lime green whistle lanyards.

Ok haters. You need to come up with some new material. API roster has been set. Supplementals for a combined 22/23 Second team. No more dad coaches anymore, yes shocking but true. And haven't seen lanyards since 5th grade. Love all the attention but the jokes are tired...I'm sure you can be wittier, just try harder

MadlaZ stunk it up in HoCo. And they have a dad coaching his son. So much for professional coaching. Doesn't belong on list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MADLAX didn't do anything in tournaments at all even after consolidating holdbacks and money machine into one super power flop of a tourney team

Team Maryland lost by 10 to the Hawks end of the year. Bethesda 4-0-1 at NLF.
FCA/RR - pick up any crabs?

RR got at least 1 crab.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best guess for the up coming season

FCA
Hawks
Crabs
API
Madlax

Top 5

Last year means nothing.

Not sure how last year can mean nothing? Especially if teams only got stronger.
No problem with this list . Hawks however did beat FCA overtime they played .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MadlaZ stunk it up in HoCo. And they have a dad coaching his son. So much for professional coaching. Doesn't belong on list.

They did beat Crabs pretty good in playoffs, because the crabs stink too.

No one left Hawks for another team.

Good try Dbags dad but you know those sweet neck lanyards of precious, the matching coffee tumbler mugs, and team moms hitting on other team dads is alive and well. Keep rocking that matching game day gear. So much to enjoy besides the actual game. Laughing at you soon.

Lol. Right

Arden lost to the Cannons

Will Hawks have a second team this year?

Crabs barely have a a first team

But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs barely have a a first team

But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....

Is the talent different than it was a year ago? Cause they didn't really beat anybody all year. Somehow went the whole year without playing Hawks or API and only played 89+2 once and got smoked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Hawks have a second team this year?

Look at their website---

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs barely have a a first team

But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....

Is the talent different than it was a year ago? Cause they didn't really beat anybody all year. Somehow went the whole year without playing Hawks or API and only played 89+2 once and got smoked.

Word is that a ot of 2021 holdbacks from the Bethesda area are turning 2022 and skipping madlax and the other traditional clubs and treking up to the crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs barely have a a first team

But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....

Is the talent different than it was a year ago? Cause they didn't really beat anybody all year. Somehow went the whole year without playing Hawks or API and only played 89+2 once and got smoked.

Word is that a ot of 2021 holdbacks from the Bethesda area are turning 2022 and skipping madlax and the other traditional clubs and treking up to the crabs.

They better have an entire team of holdbacks to compete and beat top teams in this region. Last year they did not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs barely have a a first team

But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....

Is the talent different than it was a year ago? Cause they didn't really beat anybody all year. Somehow went the whole year without playing Hawks or API and only played 89+2 once and got smoked.

Word is that a ot of 2021 holdbacks from the Bethesda area are turning 2022 and skipping madlax and the other traditional clubs and treking up to the crabs.

They better have an entire team of holdbacks to compete and beat top teams in this region. Last year they did not.

Crabs will be better this season as they cut a bunch of dead weight. No way they got smoked by 89+2, game was close until the end. Hawks definitely team to beat, with API a close #2. Just my 2 cents from impartial observer...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs barely have a a first team

But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....

Is the talent different than it was a year ago? Cause they didn't really beat anybody all year. Somehow went the whole year without playing Hawks or API and only played 89+2 once and got smoked.

Word is that a ot of 2021 holdbacks from the Bethesda area are turning 2022 and skipping madlax and the other traditional clubs and treking up to the crabs.

They better have an entire team of holdbacks to compete and beat top teams in this region. Last year they did not.

Crabs will be better this season as they cut a bunch of dead weight. No way they got smoked by 89+2, game was close until the end. Hawks definitely team to beat, with API a close #2. Just my 2 cents from impartial observer...

I bet MM has his team ready for Crabs again. I see MM team being at top along with Hawks with Crabs, API, not that far behind them

MM's "club" is falling apart. Everyone knows that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs barely have a a first team

But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....

Is the talent different than it was a year ago? Cause they didn't really beat anybody all year. Somehow went the whole year without playing Hawks or API and only played 89+2 once and got smoked.

Word is that a ot of 2021 holdbacks from the Bethesda area are turning 2022 and skipping madlax and the other traditional clubs and treking up to the crabs.

They better have an entire team of holdbacks to compete and beat top teams in this region. Last year they did not.

Crabs will be better this season as they cut a bunch of dead weight. No way they got smoked by 89+2, game was close until the end. Hawks definitely team to beat, with API a close #2. Just my 2 cents from impartial observer...

Funny. I was there and that game was never really close after the 1st qtr. Wasn't the final like 10-4?

MM better find a way to beat the zone Defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs barely have a a first team

But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....

Is the talent different than it was a year ago? Cause they didn't really beat anybody all year. Somehow went the whole year without playing Hawks or API and only played 89+2 once and got smoked.

Word is that a ot of 2021 holdbacks from the Bethesda area are turning 2022 and skipping madlax and the other traditional clubs and treking up to the crabs.

They better have an entire team of holdbacks to compete and beat top teams in this region. Last year they did not.

Crabs will be better this season as they cut a bunch of dead weight. No way they got smoked by 89+2, game was close until the end. Hawks definitely team to beat, with API a close #2. Just my 2 cents from impartial observer...

Dead weight? You realize that you are talking about 12 year old boys? Classy as always Crabs parents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM better find a way to beat the zone Defense.

He'll just complain and get a rule change

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM better find a way to beat the zone Defense.

Lots of talent gone from 91 and API.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM's "club" is falling apart. Everyone knows that.

Heard they added a couple crabs to an already good team. Hardly falling apart.

Fall Tournaments and Play days are right around the corner. Practices are starting up soon. or already have. Hopefully we see all teams in some of these events. Fall is a great time to see whats what and the potential for teams .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs barely have a a first team

But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....

Is the talent different than it was a year ago? Cause they didn't really beat anybody all year. Somehow went the whole year without playing Hawks or API and only played 89+2 once and got smoked.

Word is that a ot of 2021 holdbacks from the Bethesda area are turning 2022 and skipping madlax and the other traditional clubs and treking up to the crabs.

They better have an entire team of holdbacks to compete and beat top teams in this region. Last year they did not.

Crabs will be better this season as they cut a bunch of dead weight. No way they got smoked by 89+2, game was close until the end. Hawks definitely team to beat, with API a close #2. Just my 2 cents from impartial observer...

Funny. I was there and that game was never really close after the 1st qtr. Wasn't the final like 10-4?

I think you have trouble counting Mark! We'll see how you fare this season...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM's "club" is falling apart. Everyone knows that.

Heard they added a couple crabs to an already good team. Hardly falling apart.

The Crabs they added were cut by the Crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM better find a way to beat the zone Defense.

Lots of talent gone from 91 and API.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM better find a way to beat the zone Defense.

Lots of talent gone from 91 and API.

API has 99% same team for the past several years..Strong team like always

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs barely have a a first team

But what they lack in numbers they make up in talent....

Is the talent different than it was a year ago? Cause they didn't really beat anybody all year. Somehow went the whole year without playing Hawks or API and only played 89+2 once and got smoked.

Word is that a ot of 2021 holdbacks from the Bethesda area are turning 2022 and skipping madlax and the other traditional clubs and treking up to the crabs.

They better have an entire team of holdbacks to compete and beat top teams in this region. Last year they did not.

Crabs will be better this season as they cut a bunch of dead weight. No way they got smoked by 89+2, game was close until the end. Hawks definitely team to beat, with API a close #2. Just my 2 cents from impartial observer...

I bet MM has his team ready for Crabs again. I see MM team being at top along with Hawks with Crabs, API, not that far behind them

Agreed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM's "club" is falling apart. Everyone knows that.

Heard they added a couple crabs to an already good team. Hardly falling apart.

The Crabs they added were cut by the Crabs.

Wrong. One was offered spot and turned down crabs. One didn't go to Crabs tryouts because he knew he was going to 89+2. Both kids go to St. Pauls with MM's son. Keep making up lies though. Someone might believe them. After all, Ryan always says that no one has ever turned down a spot to play for Crabs. Funny that 2 did on the 2022 team alone this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MM's "club" is falling apart. Everyone knows that.

Heard they added a couple crabs to an already good team. Hardly falling apart.

The Crabs they added were cut by the Crabs.

Strange that Crabs would cut starters when loosing so many other kids.

Let's not point at kids or talk about cuts---keep it civil.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Word is that a ot of 2021 holdbacks from the Bethesda area are turning 2022 and skipping madlax and the other traditional clubs and treking up to the crabs.

They better have an entire team of holdbacks to compete and beat top teams in this region. Last year they did not.

Crabs will be better this season as they cut a bunch of dead weight. No way they got smoked by 89+2, game was close until the end. Hawks definitely team to beat, with API a close #2. Just my 2 cents from impartial observer...

Funny. I was there and that game was never really close after the 1st qtr. Wasn't the final like 10-4?

I think you have trouble counting Mark! We'll see how you fare this season...

Not mark. No trouble counting at all and not affiliated with 89+2 either. The score was 10-4. Go check HOCO website if you don't believe me

They weren't starters. Please. Nobody who starts from the Crabs would ever leave for MM.Z

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They weren't starters. Please. Nobody who starts from the Crabs would ever leave for MM.Z

They might if they couldn't take a season of being cursed at.

What is the over under on how many games the Crabs vs 89+2 will play each other this year ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They weren't starters. Please. Nobody who starts from the Crabs would ever leave for MM.Z

why wouldn't they?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the over under on how many games the Crabs vs 89+2 will play each other this year ?

Who cares ????

Hawks & API will be on top again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the over under on how many games the Crabs vs 89+2 will play each other this year ?

Who cares ????

Hawks & API will be on top again

Based on chatter
API stays the same
T9dee1 improves
Fca improves
Crabs drops
Hawks improves
Rr improves
3D and storm - no chatter
Madlax stays the same
Bethesda stays the same

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the over under on how many games the Crabs vs 89+2 will play each other this year ?

Who cares ????

Hawks & API will be on top again

An API kid told my kid at football that API lost 3 kids who were on their EMO. Not true?

What have you heard about the Cannons?

Better?

3d 2022 was solid in the summer, not great, but trending up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3d 2022 was solid in the summer, not great, but trending up

OK Sparky

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3d 2022 was solid in the summer, not great, but trending up

Sorry in joy it now but your top 4 players if not more will be leaving for the top clubs in the next 2 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3d 2022 was solid in the summer, not great, but trending up

Um, didn't that team go WINLESS in HoCo? LOL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What have you heard about the Cannons?

Better?

Feel bad for Cannons organization( not the classless parents though) They are in a tough spot. If they lose a kid, it is geographically hard to replace them as they have no real close clubs to them. They lost a couple kids last year to Hawks. Not sure about this year but even if 1-2 left, it can decimate them.

I said summer not spring league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What have you heard about the Cannons?

Better?

Feel bad for Cannons organization( not the classless parents though) They are in a tough spot. If they lose a kid, it is geographically hard to replace them as they have no real close clubs to them. They lost a couple kids last year to Hawks. Not sure about this year but even if 1-2 left, it can decimate them.

Agreed, they have made a deal with MadLax and I think they will be fine. But yes,very difficult to keep quality kids. they were very good at this age group for 2 years.

Madlax deal was a waste. They gave money away.

Hasn't helped or changed the Cannons in anyway.

The 2022 team was very good for several years.

Daddy Ball took the team over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax deal was a waste. They gave money away.

Hasn't helped or changed the Cannons in anyway.

The 2022 team was very good for several years.

Daddy Ball took the team over.

They had a pretty good coach this past 2 years. I never understood why kids would leave a championship team. But these day coaching is a huge deal if that was the case.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax deal was a waste. They gave money away.

Hasn't helped or changed the Cannons in anyway.

The 2022 team was very good for several years.

Daddy Ball took the team over.

They had a pretty good coach this past 2 years. I never understood why kids would leave a championship team. But these day coaching is a huge deal if that was the case.

Team chemistry was poison. You could hear the Cannons kids cussing each other out during the games. Daddy ball didn't help. Football mentality to game can only work for so long.rbbzfc

Crabs
API
FCA
Hawks
MD 91
Bethesda
Madlax
RR

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs
API
FCA
Hawks
MD 91
Bethesda
Madlax
RR

What do you know about the crabs that we don't?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs
API
FCA
Hawks
MD 91
Bethesda
Madlax
RR

A lot

What do you know about the crabs that we don't?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs
API
FCA
Hawks
MD 91
Bethesda
Madlax
RR

A lot

What do you know about the crabs that we don't?

Crabs is no better than they were a year ago. Other teams are. Should be interesting spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs
API
FCA
Hawks
MD 91
Bethesda
Madlax
RR

A lot

What do you know about the crabs that we don't?

Please enlighten us on how a team that lost quite a few kids is significantly better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs
API
FCA
Hawks
MD 91
Bethesda
Madlax
RR

A lot

What do you know about the crabs that we don't?

Please enlighten us on how a team that lost quite a few kids is significantly better.

Ryan M told them they would be better.

What MD Teams are going to participate in the WSYL with a 9/1 cutoff?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What MD Teams are going to participate in the WSYL with a 9/1 cutoff?

-0-

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What MD Teams are going to participate in the WSYL with a 9/1 cutoff?

None! The land of holdbacks has created their own grade-based natl championship. NY will win WSYL again. The only question is if it will be Smash or Express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What MD Teams are going to participate in the WSYL with a 9/1 cutoff?

wsyl is a joke just like the dicks toc in florida.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What MD Teams are going to participate in the WSYL with a 9/1 cutoff?

wsyl is a joke just like the dicks toc in florida.

Ditto waste of money

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What MD Teams are going to participate in the WSYL with a 9/1 cutoff?

Beat the teams from Maryland first than you can travel out west.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What MD Teams are going to participate in the WSYL with a 9/1 cutoff?

Beat the teams from Maryland first than you can travel out west.

If they did't play with all holdbacks it wouldn't be close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What MD Teams are going to participate in the WSYL with a 9/1 cutoff?

None! The land of holdbacks has created their own grade-based natl championship. NY will win WSYL again. The only question is if it will be Smash or Express.

Going to put my money on Igloo

Express wont be there. Best players are not eligible.(manhasset)

lets not pretend NY does not have holdbacks or any other teams from any other states

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What MD Teams are going to participate in the WSYL with a 9/1 cutoff?

wsyl is a joke just like the dicks toc in florida.

What about the national championship at John Carroll in July 2017? Anyone attending?

API DBacks will participate in the WSYL.

At this age group the best tourney sounds like this new one in Baltimore..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At this age group the best tourney sounds like this new one in Baltimore..

How can you say that when you don't know who will apply/be accepted? Who do you predict to be among the 16?

Hawks
Express
91 MD
????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API DBacks will participate in the WSYL.

Typical

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At this age group the best tourney sounds like this new one in Baltimore..

which one would that be??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At this age group the best tourney sounds like this new one in Baltimore..

How can you say that when you don't know who will apply/be accepted? Who do you predict to be among the 16?

Hawks
Express
91 MD
????

Wonder how MM own md91 team gets a invite they have never won anything.

Such a silly man you think the invites go to teams that win first then get invited. No the club owner has connections so he gets the invites. The kids/parents see that a club plays in the top tournaments and the kids flock to that team. This is not Euro soccer where you win and they let you in the top league. You need a pass before you play one game as a club team. This is why all the clubs are joining the elite clubs. So they can get the invite from having the connection to a top club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API DBacks will participate in the WSYL.

Typical

Why would anyone spend all that money to go out to Colorado for 13 year old lacrosse? Its crazy. Thats a years worth of club fees right there.

so what is this new tournament called and who is running?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API DBacks will participate in the WSYL.

Typical

Why would anyone spend all that money to go out to Colorado for 13 year old lacrosse? Its crazy. Thats a years worth of club fees right there.

Especially when you are talking about the Diamondbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so what is this new tournament called and who is running?

2022 National Lacrosse Championship Event run by MM. Since the MD teams can't compete for the WSYL because of all there holdbacks they just decided to make their own Championship.

They should call it the 2022 National Holdback Lacrosse Championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so what is this new tournament called and who is running?

2022 National Lacrosse Championship Event run by MM. Since the MD teams can't compete for the WSYL because of all there holdbacks they just decided to make their own Championship.

They should call it the 2022 National Holdback Lacrosse Championship.

The New [lacrosse] teams could come, but the rules would prevent them from picking up local guest players. Express will just have to make do with the 32 players on their original roster.

It is comical that MD is creating a brand new 2022 "national championship" rather than participating in the WSYL. For teams that do that rather than WSYL, it willl be the clearest confirmation on what teams are loaded with holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so what is this new tournament called and who is running?

2022 National Lacrosse Championship Event run by MM. Since the MD teams can't compete for the WSYL because of all there holdbacks they just decided to make their own Championship.

They should call it the 2022 National Holdback Lacrosse Championship.

The New [lacrosse] teams could come, but the rules would prevent them from picking up local guest players. Express will just have to make do with the 32 players on their original roster.

So Maryland teams are the only ones with holdbacks??

If mm is running it watch out

This is all sad but so very true....

They should call it the 2020 Championship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is comical that MD is creating a brand new 2022 "national championship" rather than participating in the WSYL. For teams that do that rather than WSYL, it willl be the clearest confirmation on what teams are loaded with holdbacks.

Get your facts straight. It doesn't make sense for people to pay to fly out to Denver to play teams that are within driving distance. That is what this is about. Practicality. It just makes sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is comical that MD is creating a brand new 2022 "national championship" rather than participating in the WSYL. For teams that do that rather than WSYL, it willl be the clearest confirmation on what teams are loaded with holdbacks.

No, it won't. It will be an indication of teams that don't want to pay for airfare for 13 year olds to play in a tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is comical that MD is creating a brand new 2022 "national championship" rather than participating in the WSYL. For teams that do that rather than WSYL, it willl be the clearest confirmation on what teams are loaded with holdbacks.

Or it's a confirmation that it's completely stupid to hold a championship tournament in Denver when all the good teams are in MD and NY. Whatever the rules are you are doubling to money it takes to play for these teams if you have to fly a family to d never for 4 days.

You can give everyone a whopping 100 discount

Same cry babies on here complaining about holdbacks. Rosters can be checked at any time by any club to another. EVERY SINGLE TEAM AS A HOLDBACK !
This tournament will be for the real deal 2022 teams that are not worried about cry babies and the level of competition which will be the best my son will face .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is comical that MD is creating a brand new 2022 "national championship" rather than participating in the WSYL. For teams that do that rather than WSYL, it willl be the clearest confirmation on what teams are loaded with holdbacks.

Or it's a confirmation that it's completely stupid to hold a championship tournament

for 7th graders. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If mm is running it watch out

Then it will be top notch!

Thanks mm-we know its about your kid

Not all teams have hold backs that's why the WYSL tournament is for the best teams with no hold backs . Then you will see who are the best teams .
Sorry
Crabs
Fca
Team 91
Hawks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not all teams have hold backs that's why the WYSL tournament is for the best teams with no hold backs . Then you will see who are the best teams .
Sorry
Crabs
Fca
Team 91
Hawks

Tell me again which teams don't have holdbacks?
You'd be surprised I bet. (Even some of these A and B teams have holdbacks)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not all teams have hold backs that's why the WYSL tournament is for the best teams with no hold backs . Then you will see who are the best teams .
Sorry
Crabs
Fca
Team 91
Hawks

Tell me again which teams don't have holdbacks?
You'd be surprised I bet. (Even some of these A and B teams have holdbacks)

I am sure this is correct being a holdback does not mean you are the best player. It just means you have a better shot at being the best player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API DBacks will participate in the WSYL.

Typical

Why would anyone spend all that money to go out to Colorado for 13 year old lacrosse? Its crazy. Thats a years worth of club fees right there.

Especially when you are talking about the Diamondbacks.

it might be fun to watch the diamondback coach get thrown out of a game on national television assuming they have a shot at making it that far. i can see it now cameras showing all the dads on the sideline with matching team apparel and lanyards.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thanks mm-we know its about your kid

If another player even touches his kid (legal touch/hit) he is screaming at the refs, the other teams coaches and even the other teams players. Play a zone defense against his team and he will bash that team on social media, they don't know what they are doing etc blah blah blah.
He needs to teach/coach his team on how to play against a zone defense, not [lacrosse] about it. There are many teams that play man to man and then switch to zone and MM does not like this, feels it has no place in youth lacrosse. Really, then when should they learn to play against a zone??? Get with it MM, youth lacrosse is about kids being taught/coached and have them grow in the game. It is not about just you and your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not all teams have hold backs that's why the WYSL tournament is for the best teams with no hold backs . Then you will see who are the best teams .
Sorry
Crabs
Fca
Team 91
Hawks

Tell me again which teams don't have holdbacks?
You'd be surprised I bet. (Even some of these A and B teams have holdbacks)

I am sure this is correct being a holdback does not mean you are the best player. It just means you have a better shot at being the best player.

WYSL teams all have holdbacks and at the very least are made up of an ALL Star roster very different from the one that plays all year. Kids that are born in August now can not play with their teammates and friends that are born in the very next month. Lets not kid ourselves in believing that any team does not have a holdback . Teams are very competitive and there is nothing wrong with playing against the best talent for your kids age group .. meaning 1 or 2 year difference . Its funny to come on here and act like it is not everywhere and on every team. I can say for a fact that any of the 3 sports I played my entire life up to college had a 1-2 year difference in ages.

How could there be hold backs in an age based tournament. ..your playing against kids your age. AGE IS AGE

API DBacks everybody is on age base no hold backs that's they play in WSYL and not the Dicks tournament this year in Floridia ..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How could there be hold backs in an age based tournament. ..your playing against kids your age. AGE IS AGE

It just sucks to revamp your team for age cutoffs different than every other tournament out there.

is a hold back someone who goes to pre first??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API DBacks everybody is on age base no hold backs that's they play in WSYL and not the Dicks tournament this year in Floridia ..

api is just looking for an easy trophy since they did not win any last year. seems dumb to spend the money to go all the way out to denver to get one, they should just play in one of the easier b level tournaments around here. thats basically what the wsyl is anyways.

A holdback is defined by anyone who is not age appropriate for the grade they are in. Pre firsts would fit into this category as defined in Webster's

The validity of any "National Championship" is based solely on the strength of the teams participating. Many of the tournaments proclaiming World or National Champions are jokes when 12 of the 16 teams involved are slightly better than rec programs. The teams and parents just use the Tournament as a way to vacation in Colorado or Florida.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The validity of any "National Championship" is based solely on the strength of the teams participating. Many of the tournaments proclaiming World or National Champions are jokes when 12 of the 16 teams involved are slightly better than rec programs. The teams and parents just use the Tournament as a way to vacation in Colorado or Florida.

Which is why this new tournament is trying to get the best possible teams to apply and attend

API should play in both tournaments . My guess is they will.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A holdback is defined by anyone who is not age appropriate for the grade they are in. Pre firsts would fit into this category as defined in Webster's

So boys born in August of the same year as someone born in Sept are not allowed to play . Sad, especially if you are a parent and was told by every school in the entire country that the best thing for your child is to wait, or try and make a best decision after a year.
1 month to 12 months age difference is what ALL OF SPORTS has used for ever.
Only now in the Helicopter world of cry baby parents do we try let our kids roll through with no real competitive atmosphere. Even though the younger always will be the older in a matter of a year. Good luck quoting Webster's in High School to your kid if your kid wants to play as an under classmen.

If you are a team in Maryland then you have holdbacks or pre first. Its the way the school systems are set up. Making a decision to hold back your kid now in 6th or 7th grade just for sports is crazy, however decisions that were made in the very beginning are being treated like a crime. Crying because your kid has to play against someone that is a few months or even a year older is sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A holdback is defined by anyone who is not age appropriate for the grade they are in. Pre firsts would fit into this category as defined in Webster's

So boys born in August of the same year as someone born in Sept are not allowed to play . Sad, especially if you are a parent and was told by every school in the entire country that the best thing for your child is to wait, or try and make a best decision after a year.
1 month to 12 months age difference is what ALL OF SPORTS has used for ever.
Only now in the Helicopter world of cry baby parents do we try let our kids roll through with no real competitive atmosphere. Even though the younger always will be the older in a matter of a year. Good luck quoting Webster's in High School to your kid if your kid wants to play as an under classmen.

If you are a team in Maryland then you have holdbacks or pre first. Its the way the school systems are set up. Making a decision to hold back your kid now in 6th or 7th grade just for sports is crazy, however decisions that were made in the very beginning are being treated like a crime. Crying because your kid has to play against someone that is a few months or even a year older is sad.

Then why is it so hard for you to play your son up a grade level from 1st grade tell 8th. I get it wants they hit 9 th grade but before your son should be with the same age kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The validity of any "National Championship" is based solely on the strength of the teams participating. Many of the tournaments proclaiming World or National Champions are jokes when 12 of the 16 teams involved are slightly better than rec programs. The teams and parents just use the Tournament as a way to vacation in Colorado or Florida.

I thought you werent legit until Ty Xanders slithered on the sidelines.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API DBacks everybody is on age base no hold backs that's they play in WSYL and not the Dicks tournament this year in Floridia ..

They need to qualify first.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A holdback is defined by anyone who is not age appropriate for the grade they are in. Pre firsts would fit into this category as defined in Webster's

So boys born in August of the same year as someone born in Sept are not allowed to play . Sad, especially if you are a parent and was told by every school in the entire country that the best thing for your child is to wait, or try and make a best decision after a year.
1 month to 12 months age difference is what ALL OF SPORTS has used for ever.
Only now in the Helicopter world of cry baby parents do we try let our kids roll through with no real competitive atmosphere. Even though the younger always will be the older in a matter of a year. Good luck quoting Webster's in High School to your kid if your kid wants to play as an under classmen.

If you are a team in Maryland then you have holdbacks or pre first. Its the way the school systems are set up. Making a decision to hold back your kid now in 6th or 7th grade just for sports is crazy, however decisions that were made in the very beginning are being treated like a crime. Crying because your kid has to play against someone that is a few months or even a year older is sad.

Then why is it so hard for you to play your son up a grade level from 1st grade tell 8th. I get it wants they hit 9 th grade but before your son should be with the same age kids.

for the simple reason he is a 2022 graduate. He has played at his age or higher in every sport he plays, lacrosse is the only sport that he plays that is 2022.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API DBacks everybody is on age base no hold backs that's they play in WSYL and not the Dicks tournament this year in Floridia ..

They need to qualify first.

Yes , every team must qualify , many teams played in tournaments that were set up for them to win. The league play will also count . HOCO has many of the best teams at this age group in the country . Should be a lot of fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A holdback is defined by anyone who is not age appropriate for the grade they are in. Pre firsts would fit into this category as defined in Webster's

So boys born in August of the same year as someone born in Sept are not allowed to play . Sad, especially if you are a parent and was told by every school in the entire country that the best thing for your child is to wait, or try and make a best decision after a year.
1 month to 12 months age difference is what ALL OF SPORTS has used for ever.
Only now in the Helicopter world of cry baby parents do we try let our kids roll through with no real competitive atmosphere. Even though the younger always will be the older in a matter of a year. Good luck quoting Webster's in High School to your kid if your kid wants to play as an under classmen.

If you are a team in Maryland then you have holdbacks or pre first. Its the way the school systems are set up. Making a decision to hold back your kid now in 6th or 7th grade just for sports is crazy, however decisions that were made in the very beginning are being treated like a crime. Crying because your kid has to play against someone that is a few months or even a year older is sad.

Then why is it so hard for you to play your son up a grade level from 1st grade tell 8th. I get it wants they hit 9 th grade but before your son should be with the same age kids.

for the simple reason he is a 2022 graduate. He has played at his age or higher in every sport he plays, lacrosse is the only sport that he plays that is 2022.

You want an advantage in YOUTH sports. Pretty simple. Just because MIAA schools have brainwashed you and all the rest of the prefirsts that everything is ok and you are in the right grade, doesnt mean the rest of the youth sports world buys into that.
You prefirsts parents just love to moan and groan that we are only a month older or even just a year..And you prefirst parents dont want little prefisrt to be one of the youngest players on field. But you dont mind that your prefist player is the oldest. You want an advantage at Youth sports that other children born on same day and year as your prefirst dont get! Let that same child be one of the youngest, you and your child got yours. Somehow that seems fair to you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A holdback is defined by anyone who is not age appropriate for the grade they are in. Pre firsts would fit into this category as defined in Webster's

So boys born in August of the same year as someone born in Sept are not allowed to play . Sad, especially if you are a parent and was told by every school in the entire country that the best thing for your child is to wait, or try and make a best decision after a year.
1 month to 12 months age difference is what ALL OF SPORTS has used for ever.
Only now in the Helicopter world of cry baby parents do we try let our kids roll through with no real competitive atmosphere. Even though the younger always will be the older in a matter of a year. Good luck quoting Webster's in High School to your kid if your kid wants to play as an under classmen.

If you are a team in Maryland then you have holdbacks or pre first. Its the way the school systems are set up. Making a decision to hold back your kid now in 6th or 7th grade just for sports is crazy, however decisions that were made in the very beginning are being treated like a crime. Crying because your kid has to play against someone that is a few months or even a year older is sad.

No difference of being held back as a prefirst or being heldback as a 6-8th grader. It is being heldback. Everyone agrees that you can do what is right for your child, but that doesnt give you some special rights to get an advantage other children dont get. Youth sports doesnt crave out special exceptions just because you held your child back for whatever reason. But lacrosse somehow justifies this special exceptions.

My friend son is the youngest on the team and 7th grade class his birthday is August 25 so he is always playing older kids and doesn't complain because he will get better and has to earn play time . They could hold him back but they won't because that is wimpy way of getting playing time . Make the kid earn it that's life .

Didn't DBacks win Saint Paul's for the guy who said they didn't win anything last year . Hawks was the best team last year then DBacks , Team 91,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API DBacks everybody is on age base no hold backs that's they play in WSYL and not the Dicks tournament this year in Floridia ..

They need to qualify first.

It's hard not to qualify.

Most of the invitations were refused last year because the competition wasn't worth the time and expense involved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API DBacks everybody is on age base no hold backs that's they play in WSYL and not the Dicks tournament this year in Floridia ..

Many of the Dbacks are doing Dicks TOC as members of the Dukes Nationals team. Like the Cannons feed Madlax Nationals now, Dbacks feed Dukes Nationals.

This is an off year for the 2022 teams at Dicks who still uses the archaic two year grouping U9, U11, U13. The 2022 teams are U12 this year so either they add older kids or they will probably get beat by a 2021 trophy hunting team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API DBacks everybody is on age base no hold backs that's they play in WSYL and not the Dicks tournament this year in Floridia ..

api is just looking for an easy trophy since they did not win any last year. seems dumb to spend the money to go all the way out to denver to get one, they should just play in one of the easier b level tournaments around here. thats basically what the wsyl is anyways.

API has to go out west to compete for a Natl. championship. Millon's objective selection committee won't look kindly on their 9-1 beat down of 89+2 at NXT or their zone defense.

I looked up hold back in Websters and I did not see where is refers to anyone who is not age appropriate for a specific grade. You cry baby parents who complain about hold backs, whatever that is, are ignorant of the reason why boys go to pre first.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The validity of any "National Championship" is based solely on the strength of the teams participating. Many of the tournaments proclaiming World or National Champions are jokes when 12 of the 16 teams involved are slightly better than rec programs. The teams and parents just use the Tournament as a way to vacation in Colorado or Florida.

I thought you werent legit until Ty Xanders slithered on the sidelines.

If Ty gave a shout out! Its legit!

Ty hasn't attended any events for anything younger than 2020. Next season, he will start to look at 2021s. There are two years to go until he starts looking at 2022s.

Ty also just retweeted Mark Dixon's comments saying National/World Championship tournaments are too much for 12-13 year olds - so I doubt Ty is shouting out about anything for 2022s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I looked up hold back in Websters and I did not see where is refers to anyone who is not age appropriate for a specific grade. You cry baby parents who complain about hold backs, whatever that is, are ignorant of the reason why boys go to pre first.

We all know why kids do prefirst?? Not mature enough for 1st grade, Behind rest of kindergarten students in skills, parent thinks they need more time in Kindergarten, and Yes sometimes to give their child an advantage in education and sports.MIAA is very competitive and parents know that the dont want their child constantly competing against older kids academically and physically. Some MIAA schools encourage (very strongly) that summer kids stay back.

But what has that got to do with YOUTH sports?? Does the MIAA now set policy for lacrosse youth sports??

The ignorant one is you who cant figure out this is Two different issues that you holdback cry baby parents make as One! Just because you hold your child back a grade or two, that doesn't give your child some special rights over other children born on exact same date and year as them, as it pertains to youth sports.

your son obviously is not very good for you to all worked up about this. That's why the have a "C" leagues.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

your son obviously is not very good for you to all worked up about this. That's why the have a "C" leagues.

This is the funny part of this point. Its the parents who have a son that is the 11th best player on the team. Or the 4th attackman that are the most upset. When you see a kid 16 months older then your son on his 2022 team it piZZes you off. You like the club you like the coaches you like the tournaments but you son will have to sit behind a kid 16 months older then him for the next 6 years. So if you add up all the playing time this older kid stole from your kid over the next 2 years before high school it adds up. I get the play in your grade no matter how old you are the summer before 9th grade. But anytime before that you are a cheat and a punk to play your son down a grade for his age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My friend son is the youngest on the team and 7th grade class his birthday is August 25 so he is always playing older kids and doesn't complain because he will get better and has to earn play time . They could hold him back but they won't because that is wimpy way of getting playing time . Make the kid earn it that's life .

Didn't DBacks win Saint Paul's for the guy who said they didn't win anything last year . Hawks was the best team last year then DBacks , Team 91,

Wimpy way to get playing time , make the kid earn it.. that's life !!
Classic statement from a dumb [lacrosse] parent . What player no matter what his age does not earn playing time. No player does not have to earn it at practice or try outs. There are teams full with holdbacks that barely see the field. Crying like the tool that you are on here makes you look stupid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I looked up hold back in Websters and I did not see where is refers to anyone who is not age appropriate for a specific grade. You cry baby parents who complain about hold backs, whatever that is, are ignorant of the reason why boys go to pre first.

We all know why kids do prefirst?? Not mature enough for 1st grade, Behind rest of kindergarten students in skills, parent thinks they need more time in Kindergarten, and Yes sometimes to give their child an advantage in education and sports.MIAA is very competitive and parents know that the dont want their child constantly competing against older kids academically and physically. Some MIAA schools encourage (very strongly) that summer kids stay back.

But what has that got to do with YOUTH sports?? Does the MIAA now set policy for lacrosse youth sports??

The ignorant one is you who cant figure out this is Two different issues that you holdback cry baby parents make as One! Just because you hold your child back a grade or two, that doesn't give your child some special rights over other children born on exact same date and year as them, as it pertains to youth sports.

What special rights are you talking about? The right the kid has to play with his friends that are in is class that happen to not be born in August or Sept 2003 like him, Or the right to the classmate . friend ,teammate that was born in Octob03 three through december 2004.
Following every rule and guideline for School and Club or Rec along the way. Special rights and statements about kids somehow cheating or not earning their spots is a bit harsh andflt out not true.
However , in the world that only a small part of the overall Hold Back community (that only lacrosse parents cry about) the Parents in the Private School World that are holding kids back now for the SOLE PURPOSE of an advantage on the field . That is completely different than what 90% of good , honest parents did for their child in the holdback community .. Special rights is a joke .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

your son obviously is not very good for you to all worked up about this. That's why the have a "C" leagues.

This is the funny part of this point. Its the parents who have a son that is the 11th best player on the team. Or the 4th attackman that are the most upset. When you see a kid 16 months older then your son on his 2022 team it piZZes you off. You like the club you like the coaches you like the tournaments but you son will have to sit behind a kid 16 months older then him for the next 6 years. So if you add up all the playing time this older kid stole from your kid over the next 2 years before high school it adds up. I get the play in your grade no matter how old you are the summer before 9th grade. But anytime before that you are a cheat and a punk to play your son down a grade for his age.

SAD SAD,, do you really think that every holdback player doesn't have to earn a spot on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

your son obviously is not very good for you to all worked up about this. That's why the have a "C" leagues.

Is that why your kid plays down, because he would be in a 2021 "C" league if he were age appropriate?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My friend son is the youngest on the team and 7th grade class his birthday is August 25 so he is always playing older kids and doesn't complain because he will get better and has to earn play time . They could hold him back but they won't because that is wimpy way of getting playing time . Make the kid earn it that's life .

Didn't DBacks win Saint Paul's for the guy who said they didn't win anything last year . Hawks was the best team last year then DBacks , Team 91,

Wimpy way to get playing time , make the kid earn it.. that's life !!
Classic statement from a dumb [lacrosse] parent . What player no matter what his age does not earn playing time. No player does not have to earn it at practice or try outs. There are teams full with holdbacks that barely see the field. Crying like the tool that you are on here makes you look stupid.

Little harsh there on him dont you think? Most of us get his point. Everyone usually earns their playing time. But it sure is easier to earn playing time when you are a holdback, especially when you are anywhere from 1 month to 18 months older than all the other players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I looked up hold back in Websters and I did not see where is refers to anyone who is not age appropriate for a specific grade. You cry baby parents who complain about hold backs, whatever that is, are ignorant of the reason why boys go to pre first.

We all know why kids do prefirst?? Not mature enough for 1st grade, Behind rest of kindergarten students in skills, parent thinks they need more time in Kindergarten, and Yes sometimes to give their child an advantage in education and sports.MIAA is very competitive and parents know that the dont want their child constantly competing against older kids academically and physically. Some MIAA schools encourage (very strongly) that summer kids stay back.

But what has that got to do with YOUTH sports?? Does the MIAA now set policy for lacrosse youth sports??

The ignorant one is you who cant figure out this is Two different issues that you holdback cry baby parents make as One! Just because you hold your child back a grade or two, that doesn't give your child some special rights over other children born on exact same date and year as them, as it pertains to youth sports.

What special rights are you talking about? The right the kid has to play with his friends that are in is class that happen to not be born in August or Sept 2003 like him, Or the right to the classmate . friend ,teammate that was born in Octob03 three through december 2004.
Following every rule and guideline for School and Club or Rec along the way. Special rights and statements about kids somehow cheating or not earning their spots is a bit harsh andflt out not true.
However , in the world that only a small part of the overall Hold Back community (that only lacrosse parents cry about) the Parents in the Private School World that are holding kids back now for the SOLE PURPOSE of an advantage on the field . That is completely different than what 90% of good , honest parents did for their child in the holdback community .. Special rights is a joke .

No you do want " special rights" for your holdback child that other children the same exact birthday your son has DO NOT GET at YOUTH SPORTS. You still cant comprehend that the YOUTH SPORTS world doesn't revolve around holdbacks and the MIAA schools.

Your child gets to play with his friends all he wants at school and on EVERY school team plus all HS club teams. But Youth sports is about age. It isnt about Holdbacks and letting your son along with other holdbacks get an advantage over others exact same age..or get "special rights" .

So no special rights isnt a joke, it is a joke that you think it is ok to give your son an advantage others dont get, just because you and your MIAA school decided to hold him back in kindergarten.

Sounds like some of the top coaches do not like the new Tournament for a National tourney.
What are everyones thoughts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like some of the top coaches do not like the new Tournament for a National tourney.
What are everyones thoughts.

Who cares? All the top teams will play each other at some point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like some of the top coaches do not like the new Tournament for a National tourney.
What are everyones thoughts.

I think they all are against these types of tournaments, practicing in the winter and fall, early recruiting and hold backs but fall prey to all of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like some of the top coaches do not like the new Tournament for a National tourney.
What are everyones thoughts.

Who cares? All the top teams will play each other at some point.

They don't always play each other. Many times the top teams will travel to a tournament and only play 2 or 3 competitive teams. For a true national championship, all the teams will be competitive. Whether you call it Young Guns, or Elite 8, or National Championship, teams just want to know where to find good consistent competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like some of the top coaches do not like the new Tournament for a National tourney.
What are everyones thoughts.

Who cares? All the top teams will play each other at some point.

They don't always play each other. Many times the top teams will travel to a tournament and only play 2 or 3 competitive teams. For a true national championship, all the teams will be competitive. Whether you call it Young Guns, or Elite 8, or National Championship, teams just want to know where to find good consistent competition.

So the idea is to crown a 2017 natl. Champ based on the field being selected on 2016 resumes? Makes no sense.

I would like the idea of Millon's tourney if it was earlier. Rather not play that late (assuming my son's team plays in it)
The games last year were great. Toughest tournament all summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like some of the top coaches do not like the new Tournament for a National tourney.
What are everyones thoughts.

Who cares? All the top teams will play each other at some point.

They don't always play each other. Many times the top teams will travel to a tournament and only play 2 or 3 competitive teams. For a true national championship, all the teams will be competitive. Whether you call it Young Guns, or Elite 8, or National Championship, teams just want to know where to find good consistent competition.

So the idea is to crown a 2017 natl. Champ based on the field being selected on 2016 resumes? Makes no sense.

I would think that the very best 2017 team would be in the top 16 of 2016 teams selected by the committee, so it should be ok.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like some of the top coaches do not like the new Tournament for a National tourney.
What are everyones thoughts.

Who cares? All the top teams will play each other at some point.

They don't always play each other. Many times the top teams will travel to a tournament and only play 2 or 3 competitive teams. For a true national championship, all the teams will be competitive. Whether you call it Young Guns, or Elite 8, or National Championship, teams just want to know where to find good consistent competition.

So the idea is to crown a 2017 natl. Champ based on the field being selected on 2016 resumes? Makes no sense.

I would think that the very best 2017 team would be in the top 16 of 2016 teams selected by the committee, so it should be ok.

Teams have all spring and summer to be selected.,
Looked like a deposit and roster need to be in this winter if they think they have a shot of being in it.

Totally agree with this comment.

Hawks best team from Maryland.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks best team from Maryland.

Give it a rest butthead, no one cares. You are as bad as the Madlax person yelling out the same crap about Madlax.
And, it's only your opinion, which means crap to everyone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks best team from Maryland.

Give it a rest butthead, no one cares. You are as bad as the Madlax person yelling out the same crap about Madlax.
And, it's only your opinion, which means crap to everyone else.

We'll see who takes the hoco crown on 2017. Fca and Rough Riders are much improved. Don't see much movement from the other clubs.

Are Roughrider playing in Tyker C this year so they don't have to face Millon's team?

Fall Ball is right around the corner and we will all see how improved ALL of the teams have gotten. The chatter on here is comical.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks best team from Maryland.

Give it a rest butthead, no one cares. You are as bad as the Madlax person yelling out the same crap about Madlax.
And, it's only your opinion, which means crap to everyone else.

API best team from Maryland

Crabs best team from Maryland

RR best team from Maryland

FCA best team from Maryland

91 best team from Maryland

Madlax best team from Maryland

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are Roughrider playing in Tyker C this year so they don't have to face Millon's team?

Millon's team isn't the problem. They are very good, but nothing to be afraid of. The man himself is another story. Total disgrace.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are Roughrider playing in Tyker C this year so they don't have to face Millon's team?

Millon's team isn't the problem. They are very good, but nothing to be afraid of. The man himself is another story. Total disgrace.

For sure- he struggles surf daddy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are Roughrider playing in Tyker C this year so they don't have to face Millon's team?

Millon's team isn't the problem. They are very good, but nothing to be afraid of. The man himself is another story. Total disgrace.

Very good? Lost to API 9-1 in July and to Hawks 12-1 in June. The must have added new players if they are very good now. Oh wait, they didn't. It will be Hawks and API on top again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are Roughrider playing in Tyker C this year so they don't have to face Millon's team?

Millon's team isn't the problem. They are very good, but nothing to be afraid of. The man himself is another story. Total disgrace.

Very good? Lost to API 9-1 in July and to Hawks 12-1 in June. The must have added new players if they are very good now. Oh wait, they didn't. It will be Hawks and API on top again.

At least two crabs moved over to Millon's team. They will be better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks best team from Maryland.

Give it a rest butthead, no one cares. You are as bad as the Madlax person yelling out the same crap about Madlax.
And, it's only your opinion, which means crap to everyone else.

API best team from Maryland

Crabs best team from Maryland

RR best team from Maryland

FCA best team from Maryland

91 best team from Maryland

Madlax best team from Maryland

As a Bethesda dad, I am super pissed we are not considered the best.

Bethsada only the best when they bring in 2021 kids to a tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are Roughrider playing in Tyker C this year so they don't have to face Millon's team?

Millon's team isn't the problem. They are very good, but nothing to be afraid of. The man himself is another story. Total disgrace.

Very good? Lost to API 9-1 in July and to Hawks 12-1 in June. The must have added new players if they are very good now. Oh wait, they didn't. It will be Hawks and API on top again.

At least two crabs moved over to Millon's team. They will be better.

Will have to wait for the season to begin to see if this is true. The real problem with this team is MM. If his son gets checked he is yelling at the refs. Have seen him also yelling at the other teams coaches and he even goes so low as to yell at the other teams players. I don't give a sh*t how much he knows about lacrosse, he should not be coaching at the youth level. He even gets pissed when another team goes into a zone defense, acts like it is illegal to play zone.
Let him go coach adults and see how he acts. Trust me, if he pulled this crap with adults he may end up on his butt.

Big surprise this year when MM team turns into beast mode and wins everything!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big surprise this year when MM team turns into beast mode and wins everything!!

Yes , a very big surprise it will be

Did Bethesda bring 2021 kids to a tournament?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big surprise this year when MM team turns into beast mode and wins everything!!

Until someone plays zone defense against his team, then they have no idea what to do and he starts complaining that zone should not be allowed in youth lacrosse.
I would never let my son play for MM, and yes he is more than good enough.

Rarely comment on this site but find entertainment in reading these stupid posts....Please know that the 2022 drama is way over board... No one cares who the best is and when it comes down to it...No one will remember who was the best 7th grade team in Maryland during the 2016-17 season.... Get a grip crazy parents...Unreal.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rarely comment on this site but find entertainment in reading these stupid posts....Please know that the 2022 drama is way over board... No one cares who the best is and when it comes down to it...No one will remember who was the best 7th grade team in Maryland during the 2016-17 season.... Get a grip crazy parents...Unreal.....

The drama in this post mainly is over MM and the parents that he's rubbed the wrong way. Beside that, most of us enjoy the competition, win or lose.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rarely comment on this site but find entertainment in reading these stupid posts....Please know that the 2022 drama is way over board... No one cares who the best is and when it comes down to it...No one will remember who was the best 7th grade team in Maryland during the 2016-17 season.... Get a grip crazy parents...Unreal.....

I think everyone really knows this but it is fun to talk about. Are sons are not in High school yet so to them this is the biggest deal in their lacrosse world.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks best team from Maryland.

Give it a rest butthead, no one cares. You are as bad as the Madlax person yelling out the same crap about Madlax.
And, it's only your opinion, which means crap to everyone else.

API best team from Maryland

Crabs best team from Maryland

RR best team from Maryland

FCA best team from Maryland

91 best team from Maryland

Madlax best team from Maryland

As a Bethesda dad, I am super pissed we are not considered the best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks best team from Maryland.

Give it a rest butthead, no one cares. You are as bad as the Madlax person yelling out the same crap about Madlax.
And, it's only your opinion, which means crap to everyone else.

API best team from Maryland

Crabs best team from Maryland

RR best team from Maryland

FCA best team from Maryland

91 best team from Maryland

Madlax best team from Maryland

As a Bethesda dad, I am super pissed we are not considered the best.

Darn it! I knew I was leaving a team out. My sincere apologies. Bethesda belongs up there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rarely comment on this site but find entertainment in reading these stupid posts....Please know that the 2022 drama is way over board... No one cares who the best is and when it comes down to it...No one will remember who was the best 7th grade team in Maryland during the 2016-17 season.... Get a grip crazy parents...Unreal.....

I'm with ya.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rarely comment on this site but find entertainment in reading these stupid posts....Please know that the 2022 drama is way over board... No one cares who the best is and when it comes down to it...No one will remember who was the best 7th grade team in Maryland during the 2016-17 season.... Get a grip crazy parents...Unreal.....

I'm with ya.

If you think this forum is bad, jump over to the 2022 Girls and take a look.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rarely comment on this site but find entertainment in reading these stupid posts....Please know that the 2022 drama is way over board... No one cares who the best is and when it comes down to it...No one will remember who was the best 7th grade team in Maryland during the 2016-17 season.... Get a grip crazy parents...Unreal.....

You wait. This season will be epic and will go down in Lacrosse history!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rarely comment on this site but find entertainment in reading these stupid posts....Please know that the 2022 drama is way over board... No one cares who the best is and when it comes down to it...No one will remember who was the best 7th grade team in Maryland during the 2016-17 season.... Get a grip crazy parents...Unreal.....

You wait. This season will be epic and will go down in Lacrosse history!

Not only epic.. I have from highly rated sources that the 2022 MD teams have not only some of the best talent in years..It is the best talent that has ever come out of MD or NY in any one year! So No I will not get a grip,, I will record every game and remember that this is the year that 2022 players came of age and destroyed the competition of the past! I intend to make a list of All the highly talented teams and their players. Highlight reels of all teams and keep track of ALL extremely important wins and Tournament wins!! What idiot said this was only 7th graders playing a game??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rarely comment on this site but find entertainment in reading these stupid posts....Please know that the 2022 drama is way over board... No one cares who the best is and when it comes down to it...No one will remember who was the best 7th grade team in Maryland during the 2016-17 season.... Get a grip crazy parents...Unreal.....

You wait. This season will be epic and will go down in Lacrosse history!

Not only epic.. I have from highly rated sources that the 2022 MD teams have not only some of the best talent in years..It is the best talent that has ever come out of MD or NY in any one year! So No I will not get a grip,, I will record every game and remember that this is the year that 2022 players came of age and destroyed the competition of the past! I intend to make a list of All the highly talented teams and their players. Highlight reels of all teams and keep track of ALL extremely important wins and Tournament wins!! What idiot said this was only 7th graders playing a game??

Well we all make jokes they will be in front of college coaches and will be sending and receiving emails in 22 months or so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rarely comment on this site but find entertainment in reading these stupid posts....Please know that the 2022 drama is way over board... No one cares who the best is and when it comes down to it...No one will remember who was the best 7th grade team in Maryland during the 2016-17 season.... Get a grip crazy parents...Unreal.....

You wait. This season will be epic and will go down in Lacrosse history!

Not only epic.. I have from highly rated sources that the 2022 MD teams have not only some of the best talent in years..It is the best talent that has ever come out of MD or NY in any one year! So No I will not get a grip,, I will record every game and remember that this is the year that 2022 players came of age and destroyed the competition of the past! I intend to make a list of All the highly talented teams and their players. Highlight reels of all teams and keep track of ALL extremely important wins and Tournament wins!! What idiot said this was only 7th graders playing a game??

Not that I'm not totally in agreement with you on the absurdity of this forums existence and the value we place on 7th grade Lax, but if you really felt like getting back to just "7th graders playing a game" why pay 2 grand a year? Rec is out there.. its cheaper too.

Paying 2K a year gives you the right to behave irrational...Oh my bad..... Act out until your 2k heart is content...By the way I have 3 boys and pay 6k...I guess I have more of a right than you to act out as you do...By the way my kids are the best and your club sucks and holdbacks suck and RR blows and FCA sucks and diamondbacks cheat and Crabs cheat and Mark Millon is crazy blah blah

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Paying 2K a year gives you the right to behave irrational...Oh my bad..... Act out until your 2k heart is content...By the way I have 3 boys and pay 6k...I guess I have more of a right than you to act out as you do...By the way my kids are the best and your club sucks and holdbacks suck and RR blows and FCA sucks and diamondbacks cheat and Crabs cheat and Mark Millon is crazy blah blah

I think you just passed $100,jeep going.

What tournaments are the 22s playing in the fall. We are registered for one and our coach says the others are a waste of time. Where is everyone playing?

Watch out for The DUKES "

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watch out for The DUKES "

Good advice. I allmost stepped in some.

Hawks beat Dukes or any other team out there

Slow down chump ! hawks had 1 loss and 1 win this year to igloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Slow down chump ! hawks had 1 loss and 1 win this year to igloo

Igloo is a great team but have never beaten Hawks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournaments are the 22s playing in the fall. We are registered for one and our coach says the others are a waste of time. Where is everyone playing?

Ok what tournament is that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournaments are the 22s playing in the fall. We are registered for one and our coach says the others are a waste of time. Where is everyone playing?

Sounds like your coach is putting money in his pocket and not player development.

The 2022 Maryland players should be good, they drive themselves to practice. Haha

Hawks got beat by rough riders last stop being stupid . Everyone got beat last year . Their is some great teams at 2022 anyone can win .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Slow down chump ! hawks had 1 loss and 1 win this year to igloo

Igloo is a great team but have never beaten Hawks.

Correct! Igloo has never beaten Hawks, but they are a very good team/
My bet is the Hawks commentator is from another team starting crap. and some 'chump' fell for it! classic crap that happens on here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournaments are the 22s playing in the fall. We are registered for one and our coach says the others are a waste of time. Where is everyone playing?

Ok what tournament is that?

Must be Battle on the Bay

Didn't express beat hawks a few times last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn't express beat hawks a few times last year?

Nope

Yes they did. Stop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn't express beat hawks a few times last year?

Nope

Express beat Hawks 3 times last year. Hawks beat express once.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn't express beat hawks a few times last year?

Nope

Express beat Hawks 3 times last year. Hawks beat express once.

Both teams EASILY the top 2 teams at this age group last year! Both teams did have some loses along the way. Competition very good all over the place. No team is unbeatable as the Hawks loss to RR showed last year. Express also had a few bad games. Top form though they are definitely the teams to beat this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Slow down chump ! hawks had 1 loss and 1 win this year to igloo

Igloo is a great team but have never beaten Hawks.

Correct! Igloo has never beaten Hawks, but they are a very good team/
My bet is the Hawks commentator is from another team starting crap. and some 'chump' fell for it! classic crap that happens on here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn't express beat hawks a few times last year?

Nope

Express beat Hawks 3 times last year. Hawks beat express once.

Hey API dad , stop posing like a Hawk parent !

I was at a Next Level - Club Blue MS game today. Embarrassing behavior by dads on both teams. These are supposed to be games where kids have fun and improve, not to hear dads reliving their own childhoods.

Sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Slow down chump ! hawks had 1 loss and 1 win this year to igloo

Igloo is a great team but have never beaten Hawks.

Correct! Igloo has never beaten Hawks, but they are a very good team/
My bet is the Hawks commentator is from another team starting crap. and some 'chump' fell for it! classic crap that happens on here.

How many losses did Express have all last year? Bethesda and Madlax beat them in some early scrimmages. Hawks once at the end of the Summer. Anyone else?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn't express beat hawks a few times last year?

Nope

Express beat Hawks 3 times last year. Hawks beat express once.

Hey API dad , stop posing like a Hawk parent !

API beat express at young guns and lost to hawks.

How about the Club Blue coach Giblin yelling and denigrating twelve year olds. Crazy, never seen him before. Hard core.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the Club Blue coach Giblin yelling and denigrating twelve year olds. Crazy, never seen him before. Hard core.

This surprises no one who has seen his act at Prep.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the Club Blue coach Giblin yelling and denigrating twelve year olds. Crazy, never seen him before. Hard core.

He is pretty bad. The dads on Next Level 2022 and Club Blue 2022 are just as bad. Acting like it was the Super Bowl. They should be ashamed at their behavior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the Club Blue coach Giblin yelling and denigrating twelve year olds. Crazy, never seen him before. Hard core.

He is pretty bad. The dads on Next Level 2022 and Club Blue 2022 are just as bad. Acting like it was the Super Bowl. They should be ashamed at their behavior.

You're right. Don't those guys know that both of those teams stink?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the Club Blue coach Giblin yelling and denigrating twelve year olds. Crazy, never seen him before. Hard core.

Wasnt he a respected coach or assistant coach in the MIAA ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the Club Blue coach Giblin yelling and denigrating twelve year olds. Crazy, never seen him before. Hard core.

Wasnt he a respected coach or assistant coach in the MIAA ??

Georgetown Prep

Did Dukes replace API?

Who is going to the Dukes National Team Try Out ?

Dukes lacrosse model is like a pyramid scheme...No thanks...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the Club Blue coach Giblin yelling and denigrating twelve year olds. Crazy, never seen him before. Hard core.

He is pretty bad. The dads on Next Level 2022 and Club Blue 2022 are just as bad. Acting like it was the Super Bowl. They should be ashamed at their behavior.

You're right. Don't those guys know that both of those teams stink?

Very Funny. LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Dukes replace API?

Yes - the new official name is "Dukes API Arden Diamondback's"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the Club Blue coach Giblin yelling and denigrating twelve year olds. Crazy, never seen him before. Hard core.

Wasnt he a respected coach or assistant coach in the MIAA ??

The guy cheats too. Not good at a ll

I know a large amount of players from the Annapolis Hawks, Crabs, API, FCA, RR & looney's are going.

My son plays for 91 and Duke's Nat. the program is amazing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dukes lacrosse model is like a pyramid scheme...No thanks...

A pyramid scheme? Translated your son can't compete at the highest level so you try to mock it. Dukes recruits players from all parts of USA, Canada and the Six Nations. The minicamps are a good measuring stick to find out where you child stands and gives an opportunity to elite players to play with other elite players from different parts of the country. It doesn't cost thousand of dollars like many other clubs but it's not for everyone. You should only come if your child has the ability to compete with top players from all over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is going to the Dukes National Team Try Out ?

All the top players that were on the "Maryland Stars" last summer play for Duke's Nationals now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is going to the Dukes National Team Try Out ?

I'm going to bring my son out. His friend is the top player on LI Express and talks about how talented the coaches & kids are all the time.

Dukes marketing group is going all out. Smh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Dukes replace API?

Yes - the new official name is "Dukes API Arden Diamondback's"

I actually heard the Crabs and Annapolis Hawks are working with Duke's now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know a large amount of players from the Annapolis Hawks, Crabs, API, FCA, RR & looney's are going.

Thought Hawks player where not allowed to do anything outside of Hawks

Is FCA playing Dukes this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know a large amount of players from the Annapolis Hawks, Crabs, API, FCA, RR & looney's are going.

Thought Hawks player where not allowed to do anything outside of Hawks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know a large amount of players from the Annapolis Hawks, Crabs, API, FCA, RR & looney's are going.

Thought Hawks player where not allowed to do anything outside of Hawks

Ha! You guys are crazy. What do you sign contracts for your kids. I would never let any coach get in the way of any opportunity for my kid. My older son played for an organization that tried to do that. The staff could only bring him so far. I exposed him to multiple coaches and now he is a starter for an ACC school. This is great advise. LEARN FROM MANY COACHES.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Dukes replace API?

Yes - the new official name is "Dukes API Arden Diamondback's"

I actually heard the Crabs and Annapolis Hawks are working with Duke's now.

This is not true. Stop making stuff up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know a large amount of players from the Annapolis Hawks, Crabs, API, FCA, RR & looney's are going.

Thought Hawks player where not allowed to do anything outside of Hawks

And this is not true either.

What's great about Dukes is if your kid is not good enough to play in a certain tournament you can give Dukes more money and then maybe he will be good enough to play in next tournament....Total pyramid scheme....Buyer beware

LOL. That is true, the Hawks make 10year olds sign contracts to play for them only. They get a pack of Twix as a signing bonus. Haha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is FCA playing Dukes this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. That is true, the Hawks make 10year olds sign contracts to play for them only. They get a pack of Twix as a signing bonus. Haha

Or the coach fills up their cars for them, since many of the 2022 players are licensed drivers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. That is true, the Hawks make 10year olds sign contracts to play for them only. They get a pack of Twix as a signing bonus. Haha

Or the coach fills up their cars for them, since many of the 2022 players are licensed drivers

Ok, now that is funny!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is FCA playing Dukes this weekend?

FCA, Duke's National, Leading Edge, Express Channy and one other team . . .

Wow, the pro-Dukes BS is piling up high..

Put together a decent Duke 2022 team in Philly first - then we'll talk.

Cutting edge comedy. A 7th grader driving a car.

Do you write material for Carrot Top?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know a large amount of players from the Annapolis Hawks, Crabs, API, FCA, RR & looney's are going.

Thought Hawks player where not allowed to do anything outside of Hawks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know a large amount of players from the Annapolis Hawks, Crabs, API, FCA, RR & looney's are going.

Thought Hawks player where not allowed to do anything outside of Hawks

Ha! You guys are crazy. What do you sign contracts for your kids. I would never let any coach get in the way of any opportunity for my kid. My older son played for an organization that tried to do that. The staff could only bring him so far. I exposed him to multiple coaches and now he is a starter for an ACC school. This is great advise. LEARN FROM MANY COACHES.

HA! you actually believe that crap! seems you didn't learn from anyone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is FCA playing Dukes this weekend?

FCA, Duke's National, Leading Edge, Express Channy and one other team . . .

Dukes having try outs and playing all these teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is going to the Dukes National Team Try Out ?

All the top players that were on the "Maryland Stars" last summer play for Duke's Nationals now.

Really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is going to the Dukes National Team Try Out ?

All the top players that were on the "Maryland Stars" last summer play for Duke's Nationals now.

you mean all the coaches kids from every team are now playing for the Dukes, because that is who was that alls tar team along with other coaches kids.

Originally Posted by Luis Gonzalez

I know a large amount of players from the Annapolis Hawks, Crabs, API, FCA, RR & looney's are going.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is FCA playing Dukes this weekend?

FCA White is playing Dukes. Should be a good game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is FCA playing Dukes this weekend?

FCA White is playing Dukes. Should be a good game.

FCA wins easy over Dukes/API daddy ball team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is FCA playing Dukes this weekend?

FCA White is playing Dukes. Should be a good game.

FCA wins easy over Dukes/API daddy ball team.

Blue / White
which is better team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is FCA playing Dukes this weekend?

FCA White is playing Dukes. Should be a good game.

FCA wins easy over Dukes/API daddy ball team.

Blue / White
which is better team

Blue

What tournament is this and where's the schedule.
Looks like a good one.

Any scores from today?

10-6 Express over Dukes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

10-6 Express over Dukes

API daddy ball killing the Dukes team.

Express parent running off at the mouth on another thread!

What were some of the scores from today?

Express beats Dukes in pickup game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Luis Gonzalez

I know a large amount of players from the Annapolis Hawks, Crabs, API, FCA, RR & looney's are going.

Did not see any Hawks there. Mostly API kids

Thanks RM

Dukes is a pyramid scheme of lacrosse players .The Dukes team 2022 doesn't play any better teams then the good club teams play now.

Decent concept. Dochey parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express beats Dukes in pickup game.

Why did FCA send their White team to go 0-3 instead of sending their Blue team (or did they beat Leading Edge)?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express parent running off at the mouth on another thread!

Its not against Maryland. It's against a long island parent who wreaks havoc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Luis Gonzalez

I know a large amount of players from the Annapolis Hawks, Crabs, API, FCA, RR & looney's are going.

Did not see any Hawks there. Mostly API kids

Dukes competition is the Hawks, Crabs , Fca , Bethesda, 89+2 and API , things must be really bad if players are trying out for another team than the one they just tried out with. All these teams are national quality teams that can roll with anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Luis Gonzalez

I know a large amount of players from the Annapolis Hawks, Crabs, API, FCA, RR & looney's are going.

Did not see any Hawks there. Mostly API kids

Dukes competition is the Hawks, Crabs , Fca , Bethesda, 89+2 and API , things must be really bad if players are trying out for another team than the one they just tried out with. All these teams are national quality teams that can roll with anyone.

Many kids played with Dukes Natl. last year and still went back to their regular clubs. It is kids and parents trying to supplement their practice and tourney schedule. Buyer beware, making the team and being invited to play at the actual events are two different things.

Seems hard for an all-star roster to compete against a team the works together all year.
despite the immense talent level, lacrosse is a team game, and the squads that work together all year, on all 3 facets of the game, should prevail.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Luis Gonzalez

I know a large amount of players from the Annapolis Hawks, Crabs, API, FCA, RR & looney's are going.

Did not see any Hawks there. Mostly API kids

Dukes competition is the Hawks, Crabs , Fca , Bethesda, 89+2 and API , things must be really bad if players are trying out for another team than the one they just tried out with. All these teams are national quality teams that can roll with anyone.

Many kids played with Dukes Natl. last year and still went back to their regular clubs. It is kids and parents trying to supplement their practice and tourney schedule. Buyer beware, making the team and being invited to play at the actual events are two different things.

Where is everyone playing this fall?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is everyone playing this fall?

FCA playing Maryland Lacrosse Invitational

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is everyone playing this fall?

FCA playing Maryland Lacrosse Invitational

Madlax playing Fallfest (because they have to), Autumn Classic, and Battle on the Bay.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is everyone playing this fall?

FCA playing Maryland Lacrosse Invitational

Madlax playing Fallfest (because they have to), Autumn Classic, and Battle on the Bay.

API Diamondbacks in Autumn Classic also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is everyone playing this fall?

FCA playing Maryland Lacrosse Invitational

Madlax playing Fallfest (because they have to), Autumn Classic, and Battle on the Bay.

API Diamondbacks in Autumn Classic also.

Crabs at McDonogh Playday and Autumn Classic

Rough Riders doing Halloween Havoc, MD-McDonogh, and Fall Brawl

What fall tournaments are the Hawks playing in?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What fall tournaments are the Hawks playing in?

Battle of the Bay, 3D College Bound Series, MD Lax Tourney at McDonogh

What 9-1 team is at havoc

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 9-1 team is at havoc

The super team is playing in the 2021 bracket and the A team is playing in the 2022 Bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 9-1 team is at havoc

The super team is playing in the 2021 bracket and the A team is playing in the 2022 Bracket.

So what's left of United (the A team)
Against all C teams and town teams.
Should be a real tough day for them.

Super Team ? Who is the Super Team? 9_1 made a Super Team?

Get the Kryptonite ......Super team will not even make finals in WSYL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 9-1 team is at havoc

The super team is playing in the 2021 bracket and the A team is playing in the 2022 Bracket.

So what's left of United (the A team)
Against all C teams and town teams.
Should be a real tough day for them.

That's not United... It's Bandits 2023

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 9-1 team is at havoc

The super team is playing in the 2021 bracket and the A team is playing in the 2022 Bracket.

So what's left of United (the A team)
Against all C teams and town teams.
Should be a real tough day for them.

That's not United... It's Bandits 2023

Long Island dads are lost. Wrong forum.

Big mouth, big nose, small brain...LONG-GINZO-LAND!!!!

The whole site is NY forums, but these dip-[lacrosse] somehow Mr. Magoo into this little rinky dink Maryland forum way down on the page.

SERIOUSLY, HOW DO YOU F#CK THAT UP????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big mouth, big nose, small brain...LONG-GINZO-LAND!!!!

The whole site is NY forums, but these dip-[lacrosse] somehow Mr. Magoo into this little rinky dink Maryland forum way down on the page.

SERIOUSLY, HOW DO YOU F#CK THAT UP????

Sure you aren't from LI? Nice vocabulary.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big mouth, big nose, small brain...LONG-GINZO-LAND!!!!

The whole site is NY forums, but these dip-[lacrosse] somehow Mr. Magoo into this little rinky dink Maryland forum way down on the page.

SERIOUSLY, HOW DO YOU F#CK THAT UP????

Sure you aren't from LI? Nice vocabulary.

Not Sure. They must have too many teeth and not enough NASCAR up there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Get the Kryptonite ......Super team will not even make finals in WSYL

They probably will make it if they go. There will only be 1 or 2 other competitive teams there. Have fun beating up on the best of Michigan and Ohio.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 9-1 team is at havoc

Is 9-1 coming down to play in the Olney MD Havoc or is there a LI havoc also?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 9-1 team is at havoc

Is 9-1 coming down to play in the Olney MD Havoc or is there a LI havoc also?

LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 9-1 team is at havoc

Is 9-1 coming down to play in the Olney MD Havoc or is there a LI havoc also?

LONG ISLAND

who won this weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who won this weekend

No MD tournaments this weekend.

Wow that's kid of racist don't you think?

looking forward to see how teams improved in the face off and goalie positions.

What teams improved this year? Hawks still the team to beat?

Crabs will be stronger too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams improved this year? Hawks still the team to beat?

API, FCA, Crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will be stronger too

No they won't. They lost more than they picked up

How did the Madlax/Bethesda/NL playday go on Sunday?

Crabs will be better--addition through subtraction.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams improved this year? Hawks still the team to beat?

What teams added impact players who will crack their starting lineups?

Who is playing this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams improved this year? Hawks still the team to beat?

API, FCA, Crabs

API - no change
FCA - better
Crabs - worse (won't even go .500 in hoco)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams improved this year? Hawks still the team to beat?

API, FCA, Crabs

API - no change
FCA - better
Crabs - worse (won't even go .500 in hoco)

It depends on how the schedule is. Last year Crabs was lucky and didn't play Hawks, API or Madlax in HOCO(Until Madlax beat them easily in playoffs). Crabs never played Hawks or API last year at all. Not sure how that was possible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big mouth, big nose, small brain...LONG-GINZO-LAND!!!!

The whole site is NY forums, but these dip-[lacrosse] somehow Mr. Magoo into this little rinky dink Maryland forum way down on the page.

SERIOUSLY, HOW DO YOU F#CK THAT UP????

Jeez, relax! Do you kiss your sister with that mouth?

Crabs will be good--we shall see more over the next couple of weeks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will be good--we shall see more over the next couple of weeks.

Well, if they aren't, seems a waste since they moved some of their 2021 players down to play 2022. You know, it's the Crabs way of trying to win. And they have to win, I hear Ryan M just moved to a new house, have to pay that off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will be good--we shall see more over the next couple of weeks.

Well, if they aren't, seems a waste since they moved some of their 2021 players down to play 2022. You know, it's the Crabs way of trying to win. And they have to win, I hear Ryan M just moved to a new house, have to pay that off.

I'm not a fan of the club, but you are making stuff up. There are no former Crabs 2021 players on the 2022 team. They tried to move one down and the kid chose to play for Hawks instead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will be good--we shall see more over the next couple of weeks.

Well, if they aren't, seems a waste since they moved some of their 2021 players down to play 2022. You know, it's the Crabs way of trying to win. And they have to win, I hear Ryan M just moved to a new house, have to pay that off.

I'm not a fan of the club, but you are making stuff up. There are no former Crabs 2021 players on the 2022 team. They tried to move one down and the kid chose to play for Hawks instead.

Hawks have kids playing down now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will be good--we shall see more over the next couple of weeks.

Well, if they aren't, seems a waste since they moved some of their 2021 players down to play 2022. You know, it's the Crabs way of trying to win. And they have to win, I hear Ryan M just moved to a new house, have to pay that off.

I'm not a fan of the club, but you are making stuff up. There are no former Crabs 2021 players on the 2022 team. They tried to move one down and the kid chose to play for Hawks instead.

Not making it up. Facts are facts and are accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will be good--we shall see more over the next couple of weeks.

Well, if they aren't, seems a waste since they moved some of their 2021 players down to play 2022. You know, it's the Crabs way of trying to win. And they have to win, I hear Ryan M just moved to a new house, have to pay that off.

I'm not a fan of the club, but you are making stuff up. There are no former Crabs 2021 players on the 2022 team. They tried to move one down and the kid chose to play for Hawks instead.

Not making it up. Facts are facts and are accurate.

Zero Crabs 2021 players on 2022 squad... I repeat - ZERO. That is fact. Stop making up lies dude!

Looneys will step up this year - wait and see

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will be good--we shall see more over the next couple of weeks.

Well, if they aren't, seems a waste since they moved some of their 2021 players down to play 2022. You know, it's the Crabs way of trying to win. And they have to win, I hear Ryan M just moved to a new house, have to pay that off.

I'm not a fan of the club, but you are making stuff up. There are no former Crabs 2021 players on the 2022 team. They tried to move one down and the kid chose to play for Hawks instead.

Not making it up. Facts are facts and are accurate.

Zero Crabs 2021 players on 2022 squad... I repeat - ZERO. That is fact. Stop making up lies dude!

Looneys will step up this year - wait and see

. Oh, ok DUDE, if you say ZERO then it must be a true fact. Thanks crab dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will be good--we shall see more over the next couple of weeks.

Well, if they aren't, seems a waste since they moved some of their 2021 players down to play 2022. You know, it's the Crabs way of trying to win. And they have to win, I hear Ryan M just moved to a new house, have to pay that off.

I'm not a fan of the club, but you are making stuff up. There are no former Crabs 2021 players on the 2022 team. They tried to move one down and the kid chose to play for Hawks instead.

Not making it up. Facts are facts and are accurate.

Zero Crabs 2021 players on 2022 squad... I repeat - ZERO. That is fact. Stop making up lies dude!

Looneys will step up this year - wait and see

Is that the same as saying zero Crabs 2022 players were born before Sept. 2003 because no one is dumb enough to believe that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will be good--we shall see more over the next couple of weeks.

Well, if they aren't, seems a waste since they moved some of their 2021 players down to play 2022. You know, it's the Crabs way of trying to win. And they have to win, I hear Ryan M just moved to a new house, have to pay that off.

I'm not a fan of the club, but you are making stuff up. There are no former Crabs 2021 players on the 2022 team. They tried to move one down and the kid chose to play for Hawks instead.

Not making it up. Facts are facts and are accurate.

Zero Crabs 2021 players on 2022 squad... I repeat - ZERO. That is fact. Stop making up lies dude!

Looneys will step up this year - wait and see

Is that the same as saying zero Crabs 2022 players were born before Sept. 2003 because no one is dumb enough to believe that.

That's funny...because when my son played against that Crabs 2022 team last year he mentioned that their best attackman had a deep voice like a man and he had a mustache.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will be good--we shall see more over the next couple of weeks.

Well, if they aren't, seems a waste since they moved some of their 2021 players down to play 2022. You know, it's the Crabs way of trying to win. And they have to win, I hear Ryan M just moved to a new house, have to pay that off.

I'm not a fan of the club, but you are making stuff up. There are no former Crabs 2021 players on the 2022 team. They tried to move one down and the kid chose to play for Hawks instead.

Not making it up. Facts are facts and are accurate.

Zero Crabs 2021 players on 2022 squad... I repeat - ZERO. That is fact. Stop making up lies dude!

Looneys will step up this year - wait and see

. Oh, ok DUDE, if you say ZERO then it must be a true fact. Thanks crab dad.

Ok, dude. You can see last year's 2021 roster and this years 2022 lineup online. Not a single player on both rosters. That is a fact.

See what can be cleared up when the rosters are posted online.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See what can be cleared up when the rosters are posted online.

It doesn't reveal anyone's age, but you have to wonder about the clubs that don't post their rosters.

What teams playing Battle on the Bay?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's funny...because when my son played against that Crabs 2022 team last year he mentioned that their best attackman had a deep voice like a man and he had a mustache.

So does your wife but no one says anything about her...

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams playing Battle on the Bay?

According to websites (and FLID dads yapping on the FLID boards):

Hawks
Sweetlax Upstate
Express Channy
Igloo
Madlax Capital

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams playing Battle on the Bay?

According to websites (and FLID dads yapping on the FLID boards):

Hawks
Sweetlax Upstate
Express Channy
Igloo
Madlax Capital

Penguin and Sweet perm guy at the same tournament together this is a must attend event then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams playing Battle on the Bay?

According to websites (and FLID dads yapping on the FLID boards):

Hawks
Sweetlax Upstate
Express Channy
Igloo
Madlax Capital

Penguin and Sweet perm guy at the same tournament together this is a must attend event then.

Anyone have the details? Might need to see this for myself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams playing Battle on the Bay?

According to websites (and FLID dads yapping on the FLID boards):

Hawks
Sweetlax Upstate
Express Channy
Igloo
Madlax Capital

Penguin and Sweet perm guy at the same tournament together this is a must attend event then.

Anyone have the details? Might need to see this for myself.

Chesapeake HS - schedules should be out next week and I'm sure they'll show up here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams playing Battle on the Bay?

According to websites (and FLID dads yapping on the FLID boards):

Hawks
Sweetlax Upstate
Express Channy
Igloo
Madlax Capital

Penguin and Sweet perm guy at the same tournament together this is a must attend event then.

Anyone have the details? Might need to see this for myself.

Chesapeake HS - schedules should be out next week and I'm sure they'll show up here.

what about Mr Magoo???

Some Crabs 2022s went to 2023 Crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See what can be cleared up when the rosters are posted online.

It doesn't reveal anyone's age, but you have to wonder about the clubs that don't post their rosters.

No, you don't have to wonder. It's a privacy issue. I wouldn't want my son's name posted on a public roster on a web site that anyone can access. Point in case, all of you are looking up these 12-year-old kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See what can be cleared up when the rosters are posted online.

It doesn't reveal anyone's age, but you have to wonder about the clubs that don't post their rosters.

Every team has to show verification to all clubs and tournament directors. They do not have to post any where else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams playing Battle on the Bay?

According to websites (and FLID dads yapping on the FLID boards):

Hawks
Sweetlax Upstate
Express Channy
Igloo
Madlax Capital

FLID BOARDS?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

You do know that 4 of those teams have dad coaches.
The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Agreed. API top 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See what can be cleared up when the rosters are posted online.

It doesn't reveal anyone's age, but you have to wonder about the clubs that don't post their rosters.

Every team has to show verification to all clubs and tournament directors. They do not have to post any where else.

Thats correct. its also a bit creepy to be looking up 12 year olds to verify age . Pretty sure club as all the proof needed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams playing Battle on the Bay?

According to websites (and FLID dads yapping on the FLID boards):

Hawks
Sweetlax Upstate
Express Channy
Igloo
Madlax Capital

FLID BOARDS?

F'ing Long Island Dad

FLID

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams playing Battle on the Bay?

According to websites (and FLID dads yapping on the FLID boards):

Hawks
Sweetlax Upstate
Express Channy
Igloo
Madlax Capital

FLID BOARDS?

F'ing Long Island Dad

FLID

hahahahahahaa..thanks for clearing that up. makes perfect sense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Agreed. API top 3

Top 3 scorers is what API lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Agreed. API top 3

Almost all the top teams have DADs coaching them. They must ALL be doing something right.
API
Hawks
BLC
89+1
Rough Riders
Cannons
Looneys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Agreed. API top 3

Top 3 scorers is what API lost.

here comes the excuses..Where did they all go too.

Looking for some insight, feedback on the Baltimore Breakers. Are they a descent club? Good coaching?

TIA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for some insight, feedback on the Baltimore Breakers. Are they a descent club? Good coaching?

TIA

Not since 91 was formed and all their good coaches/players left. Bottom of the barrel at this point. Didn't even field a 2022 team last year due to not enough kids coming to tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for some insight, feedback on the Baltimore Breakers. Are they a descent club? Good coaching?

TIA

Not since 91 was formed and all their good coaches/players left. Bottom of the barrel at this point. Didn't even field a 2022 team last year due to not enough kids coming to tryouts.

Interesting. Why would everyone just abandon an established club like that?

Are any of their teams any good now?

Such ignorance. Of course it was hard to field a team the year Team 91 harvested some of their players. They have a great group of coaches players and families with a goal of player development. And what a crazy thought, FUN. They will continue to improve and grow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Agreed. API top 3

Top 3 scorers is what API lost.

here comes the excuses..Where did they all go too.

Rough Riders got their attack. DBack middies still there. All 10 coaches way too intense for many 6th graders. We'll see if coaching changes can bring them back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 clubs at the grade

Hawks
MD91
Madlax
BLC
Crabs

The crabs are a whole new team and not a better one.

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams.

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year

Agreed. API top 3

Almost all the top teams have DADs coaching them. They must ALL be doing something right.
API
Hawks
BLC
89+1
Rough Riders
Cannons
Looneys

This is a 2022 forum. Did you mean to put Looneys there?

What do you know that we don't?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams playing Battle on the Bay?

According to websites (and FLID dads yapping on the FLID boards):

Hawks
Sweetlax Upstate
Express Channy
Igloo
Madlax Capital

FLID BOARDS?

Dukes Nationals also (DBacks 2nd string and more)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Diamondbacks should be on list.

dbacks might be in top 10, but no way in top 5. unless you are talking about a listing of the top 5 daddy ball teams. [/quote]

Why wouldn't Dbags be on this list? Did they lose a lot? Top 2-3 easily last year[/quote]

Agreed. API top 3

Top 3 scorers is what API lost.[/quote]

here comes the excuses..Where did they all go too. [/quote]

Rough Riders got their attack. DBack middies still there. All 10 coaches way too intense for many 6th graders. We'll see if coaching changes can bring them back. [/quote]

Wrong. Coach's son is an attackman and went no where. API stronger despite losses.

any action this weekend?

Battle on the bay:
Express
Igloo A &B
Dukes National (API)
Greyhounds
Madlax
Next level
Sweetlax
TX Mustangs
Leading Edge
Team X

Who won Hawks / 91 game yesterday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Battle on the bay:
Express
Igloo A &B
Dukes National (API)
Greyhounds
Madlax
Next level
Sweetlax
TX Mustangs
Leading Edge
Team X

Coopers and Hawks in it too.
Great talent of teams for a Early Fall tournament. Should be a lot of fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Battle on the bay:
Express
Igloo A &B
Dukes National (API)
Greyhounds
Madlax
Next level
Sweetlax
TX Mustangs
Leading Edge
Team X

Coopers and Hawks in it too.
Great talent of teams for a Early Fall tournament. Should be a lot of fun.

Not too sure who will be representing Dukes since Express and Igloo kids can't since they'll be with their clubs. Heard that most API kids are with a football team that I know won't let them play in a lax tourney. Can't see how they can be competitive but will be interesting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Battle on the bay:
Express
Igloo A &B
Dukes National (API)
Greyhounds
Madlax
Next level
Sweetlax
TX Mustangs
Leading Edge
Team X

Coopers and Hawks in it too.
Great talent of teams for a Early Fall tournament. Should be a lot of fun.

Not too sure who will be representing Dukes since Express and Igloo kids can't since they'll be with their clubs. Heard that most API kids are with a football team that I know won't let them play in a lax tourney. Can't see how they can be competitive but will be interesting

is there some kind of relationship with API and Dukes?

What about 91Super team? Are they coming down?

Maybe they pulled out after this weekend.

not sure of Igloo B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not sure of Igloo B

not sure of what ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Battle on the bay:
Express
Igloo A &B
Dukes National (API)
Greyhounds
Madlax
Next level
Sweetlax
TX Mustangs
Leading Edge
Team X

Coopers and Hawks in it too.
Great talent of teams for a Early Fall tournament. Should be a lot of fun.

Not too sure who will be representing Dukes since Express and Igloo kids can't since they'll be with their clubs. Heard that most API kids are with a football team that I know won't let them play in a lax tourney. Can't see how they can be competitive but will be interesting

Since you know so much why don't you just ask them and come back on here and let everyone know.

After last weekend , Igloo A and Express are huge favorites this weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Battle on the bay:
Express
Igloo A &B
Dukes National (API)
Greyhounds
Madlax
Next level
Sweetlax
TX Mustangs
Leading Edge
Team X

Coopers and Hawks in it too.
Great talent of teams for a Early Fall tournament. Should be a lot of fun.

Not too sure who will be representing Dukes since Express and Igloo kids can't since they'll be with their clubs. Heard that most API kids are with a football team that I know won't let them play in a lax tourney. Can't see how they can be competitive but will be interesting

Since you know so much why don't you just ask them and come back on here and let everyone know.

Maybe this could be answered if teams just posted rosters?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After last weekend , Igloo A and Express are huge favorites this weekend

Last time Igloo and Express came down to MD at Young Guns, they went home with their tails between their legs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After last weekend , Igloo A and Express are huge favorites this weekend

Last time Igloo and Express came down to MD at Young Guns, they went home with their tails between their legs.

Maybe, but the MD boys drove themselves to the games. Why can't they play boys that are born the same year they are. What are you proving by playing younger? Can't hang with your own age group?? Hmmm..

[

Last time Igloo and Express came down to MD at Young Guns, they went home with their tails between their legs. [/quote]

Really? Express lost 2 games both by 2 goals I would say that's hardly a loss to be running from with there tails between there legs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After last weekend , Igloo A and Express are huge favorites this weekend

Last time Igloo and Express came down to MD at Young Guns, they went home with their tails between their legs.

Maybe, but the MD boys drove themselves to the games. Why can't they play boys that are born the same year they are. What are you proving by playing younger? Can't hang with your own age group?? Hmmm..

Why don't the New [lacrosse] teams stop playing in graduation year tourneys? This excuse is tired. MD schools have a different birth year cut off. Only a few clubs have more than 2 or three true "holdbacks".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After last weekend , Igloo A and Express are huge favorites this weekend

Last time Igloo and Express came down to MD at Young Guns, they went home with their tails between their legs.

Maybe, but the MD boys drove themselves to the games. Why can't they play boys that are born the same year they are. What are you proving by playing younger? Can't hang with your own age group?? Hmmm..

Whats the average birth year for 2022 Li players? 2003? 2004?

Hahaha. Here come the FLIDs onto the MD forum to come up with excuses.

Hawks picked up more cannons kids. They are the team to beat in Maryland. Everyone else it's wide open for second place. Fca has added a lot of holdbacks they could make some noise this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks picked up more cannons kids. They are the team to beat in Maryland. Everyone else it's wide open for second place. Fca has added a lot of holdbacks they could make some noise this year.

FCA did not add a lot of holdbacks. They already had a bunch of holdbacks, but they didn't pick up a bunch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hahaha. Here come the FLIDs onto the MD forum to come up with excuses.

No excuse coming from LI. If USL had some teeth and held clubs accountable with age verifications the playing fields would be level. It worked with the WSYL when 91 Crush played the age appropriate Crabs....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hahaha. Here come the FLIDs onto the MD forum to come up with excuses.

No excuse coming from LI. If USL had some teeth and held clubs accountable with age verifications the playing fields would be level. It worked with the WSYL when 91 Crush played the age appropriate Crabs....

You are joking right? Do you remember what the age cut off was for that year. Both teams were heavy with holdbacks. both those teams had true holdbacks ..
why do you think they changed it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hahaha. Here come the FLIDs onto the MD forum to come up with excuses.

No excuse coming from LI. If USL had some teeth and held clubs accountable with age verifications the playing fields would be level. It worked with the WSYL when 91 Crush played the age appropriate Crabs....

Right. Let's create a tournament 2500 miles away from the hotbeds that uses different age rules than the teams are based upon. That's a successful formula.

It used to be the [lacrosse]'s Tournament in FL that was the biggest waste of money and time. Now it's this WSoYL.

Worthless.

Majority of 2022s should be born in 2004
Small minority very late 2003 (November/December)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It used to be the [lacrosse]'s Tournament in FL that was the biggest waste of money and time. Now it's this WSoYL.

Worthless.

Guess u wont be going

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks picked up more cannons kids. They are the team to beat in Maryland. Everyone else it's wide open for second place. Fca has added a lot of holdbacks they could make some noise this year.

And let's be upfront and fess up, how many holdbacks does Hawks 2022 have this year, how many did they pick up this year.

Ok now we wait for it: No No Hawks 2022 doesn't have any holdbacks this year, they have never had any. Just more BS from the Hawks dads and daddy coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Majority of 2022s should be born in 2004
Small minority very late 2003 (November/December)

In Maryland it's birthdays betweem 9/1/2003-8/31/2004

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Majority of 2022s should be born in 2004
Small minority very late 2003 (November/December)

Most of the country uses 9/1 as the school cutoff as we do here in Maryland. That means any kid born in Sept, Oct, Nov & Dec of 2003 would rightly be 2022 -- 1/3 of the kids assuming even spread of births through the months. Feel free to complain about the kids born before 9/1/03. However you do realize Long Island brought grade based segmentation into lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Majority of 2022s should be born in 2004
Small minority very late 2003 (November/December)

Maryland public cutoff is Sept. 1. Averages say that 1/3 of on age kids for class of 2022 are born Sept. 1 - Dec. 31, 2003. These are not hold backs, these are age appropriate 7th graders who did not have the option to start school earlier according to the rules in MD.

Who quit? No one clown.

so Maryland dads please be honest most of your 2022 teams especially the hawks have multiple 13 year olds and probably some 14 year olds?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so Maryland dads please be honest most of your 2022 teams especially the hawks have multiple 13 year olds and probably some 14 year olds?

So other state dads lets be honest you had to know this is what you had to deal with if you went to Grade based teams at the youth level. Maryland children have been starting late for at least 20 years if not more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so Maryland dads please be honest most of your 2022 teams especially the hawks have multiple 13 year olds and probably some 14 year olds?

Ask your coach to get a roster next time you play a team you are concerned about. 14 year olds? Do you really need to make stuff up to comfort yourself after a loss in a youth tournament? All coaches have access to rosters so you get that and come on here and tell us how many 14 year olds are on MD teams.

ok just want to confirm ,so your happy to play against 11 and 12 year olds??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ok just want to confirm ,so your happy to play against 11 and 12 year olds??

Well sense most of the time we are playing MD teams we are playing kids the same age. ask to play down a grade next time you play in MD if it is such a issue.

No don't need rosters thanks for your honesty

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so Maryland dads please be honest most of your 2022 teams especially the hawks have multiple 13 year olds and probably some 14 year olds?

14 yr olds? Stop making things up. Yes there are some 13 yr olds. My son is 13 as of September, but he's in the grade he should be in. There are some kids on the teams that were born prior to 9/1 in the summer or late spring, but they are still 13. Not sure where you are coming up with 14 yr olds.

Which is A team for bethesda;
Orange or blue?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ok just want to confirm ,so your happy to play against 11 and 12 year olds??

2/3 of kids on Maryland 2022 kids are in the same boat as your snowflakes. You never hear these kids complain. I suggest the LI teams stay on the Island in your safe space.

That's a good call. Every field should have a designated "safe space" marked off where LI dads can send their kids and nobody else can enter.

I suggest the LI teams stay on the Island in your safe space. [/quote]

LI will be at the WSYL - but MD won't. They can't compete on age so they hide. It's a little embarrassing...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I suggest the LI teams stay on the Island in your safe space.

LI will be at the WSYL - but MD won't. They can't compete on age so they hide. It's a little embarrassing... [/quote]

Dumb LI suckers dumping all that money into a tournament with 80% B teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which is A team for bethesda;
Orange or blue?

It depends on the day. Bethesda constantly switches kids between age groups and colors depending on which W is more important that particular day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No don't need rosters thanks for your honesty

Don't need them because you know you won't find any 14 year olds and would rather have a lie to tell yourself as an excuse? Or do you think you can tell how old a kid is just by looking at him?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ok just want to confirm ,so your happy to play against 11 and 12 year olds??

Just want to confirm there is no 2003 kids on any team in the State of New [lacrosse] or any other state besides Maryland. This excuse coming from a cry baby dad is so comical. Last year we saw some of your rosters because roster checks were being done. Every single team had a few which is perfectly ok in all the rule books for any league and tournament. 3 of those teams were Express, Igloo and 88+2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so Maryland dads please be honest most of your 2022 teams especially the hawks have multiple 13 year olds and probably some 14 year olds?

Why do you specifically name the Hawks. Pretty sad coming on here striking at a very good team that plays well within the RULES that your team does.
Roster checks can be made and have been. So do your homework before spewing crap out the side of your mouth.

Sounds like you are expecting a beat down and trying to make excuses before your KIDS team even plays.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I suggest the LI teams stay on the Island in your safe space.

LI will be at the WSYL - but MD won't. They can't compete on age so they hide. It's a little embarrassing...

Dumb LI suckers dumping all that money into a tournament with 80% B teams.

[/quote]

LI is also coming to MARYLAND for the 2022 Championship!
Embarrassing is coming on here acting like you know something other don't and being called out on it! Pathetic ..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No don't need rosters thanks for your honesty

Don't need them because you know you won't find any 14 year olds and would rather have a lie to tell yourself as an excuse? Or do you think you can tell how old a kid is just by looking at him?

When they get out of the car they were driving and are at least 9 inches and 40 pounds bigger than everyone else they are playing against, it's pretty easy to figure out.

Are the cannons still fielding a team at this age? They where one of best teams around at one team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I suggest the LI teams stay on the Island in your safe space.

LI will be at the WSYL - but MD won't. They can't compete on age so they hide. It's a little embarrassing...

Dumb LI suckers dumping all that money into a tournament with 80% B teams.

LI is also coming to MARYLAND for the 2022 Championship!
Embarrassing is coming on here acting like you know something other don't and being called out on it! Pathetic .. [/quote]

2022 championship in bel air makes sense. Only A teams that have been together all year going at it in an area convenient to most of the A teams. FL, IN, and CO "championships" are jokes

Any thoughts on Ground Control 2022...they went to the championship at Brine Indian Summer last week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on Ground Control 2022...they went to the championship at Brine Indian Summer last week

Hahahahaha....Think that sums it up.

They reached the finals of the B division of a C tournament.

A=Blue & B=Orange and they are locked for the fall and Spring, minus an injury.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A=Blue & B=Orange and they are locked for the fall and Spring, minus an injury.

Everyone knows Bethesda mixes players and brings in "guests" all the time. Stop playing dumb

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on Ground Control 2022...they went to the championship at Brine Indian Summer last week

Who was their competiton?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A=Blue & B=Orange and they are locked for the fall and Spring, minus an injury.

Everyone knows Bethesda mixes players and brings in "guests" all the time. Stop playing dumb

They did @E8 tournament last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A=Blue & B=Orange and they are locked for the fall and Spring, minus an injury.

Everyone knows Bethesda mixes players and brings in "guests" all the time. Stop playing dumb

They did @E8 tournament last year.

They did at NLF on long island last summer too

Hawks lost igloo and express today. Beat Madlax by one goal.

What were the scores and other game results from there today?

Top seeds

Dukes
Igloo
Express
Madlax

Dukes had a easy draw

Is there trouble in annapolis?

Wow hawks in loser bracket
Karma

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow hawks in loser bracket
Karma

Karma? Why would you say that?

Express very good team and Igloo again. Express what looked like 30 players on the sideline. Why did they not form 2 teams? Hawks and Madlax both very good again and Dukes had all top players from Api.
Very good competition from this age group at an early Fall Tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there trouble in annapolis?

Hawks were the best team my son played today..Very good team like always. All the teams except for a few looked good for this time of year

API is a terrible club. Those kids will leave before they hit HS.

The coach of Api/Dacks is more about dukes team then he is about his own team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow hawks in loser bracket
Karma

Karma? Why would you say that?

It's karma because they played the top 3 teams in the tournament on day 1 and no other team did.

Express boys always the best

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there trouble in annapolis?

In their 50 practices a week, they forgot to go over ground balls. Haha

1-2 with hold backs. No more excuses.

Where there is smoke you'll find fire!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1-2 with hold backs. No more excuses.

So much hate for the Hawks Team

Everyone hates a winner. The American way. Smh

I agree Wagner everyone hates Api/DBacks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top seeds

Dukes
Igloo
Express
Madlax

Dukes had a easy draw

What tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1-2 with hold backs. No more excuses.

So much hate for the Hawks Team

Everyone hates a winner. The American way. Smh

Excuses? Kudos for Hawks coaches for challenging their players against the top teams year in and year out. Losing by 1 goal to the Igloo team and by 2 to Express is hardly making excuses. Hawks don't look for easy games or easy seedlings. Either does Igloo or Express,. 3 programs that play anyone any where.

And the holdback crying is so lame considering that every single team has a holdback. Coming on here talking crap about teams that are just fine and will be just fine is sad. Fall tournament is just that , a fall tournament

Quick name a successful lacrosse player who has contributed to society

Answer: none

Go to school get good grades play sports for the fun and sportsmanship
Play in your age/grade
Parents stop living thru your kids

No need to reply
Peace out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quick name a successful lacrosse player who has contributed to society

Answer: none

Go to school get good grades play sports for the fun and sportsmanship
Play in your age/grade
Parents stop living thru your kids

No need to reply

Take a look at the Lacrosse Hall of Name , or Just look at Johns Hopkins lax alumni , Navy alumni, VMI alumni, Army and Air Force Alumni.
Hundreds of Lacrosse players have contributed to society and their communities.
Doctors, Lawyers, Judges, Soldiers, Law Enforcement, Philanthropist . Its a pretty long list that exceeds the NBA,NFL and any other sport.

NO NEED TO REPLY
Peace out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quick name a successful lacrosse player who has contributed to society

Answer: none

Go to school get good grades play sports for the fun and sportsmanship
Play in your age/grade
Parents stop living thru your kids

No need to reply
Peace out

I get the last part of your comment about living through your kids , but to say no lacrosse player has contributed to society is a ridiculous statement.
Worry about your own kid and stay off this site if it is too much to handle .
a little fun banter is good for everyone.

So did dukes/api win battle by the bay?

we all know its just fall ball but most teams still have there core players maybe a few come and go but most teams are the same they were over the summer , the best team won this weekend. could have gone either way congrats to 2022 boys tons of talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So did dukes/api win battle by the bay?

hate to burst your bubble dukes
Only win when Long Island boys play with them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coach of Api/Dacks is more about dukes team then he is about his own team.

Yes changed practice time and location. Had API practice same location as tournament but had practice before it started. Then sent half team home the other half played with Dukes. Lots of unhappy parents.

How did the new additions do for Crabs. Heard they had a hard time with Mesa.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coach of Api/Dacks is more about dukes team then he is about his own team.

Yes changed practice time and location. Had API practice same location as tournament but had practice before it started. Then sent half team home the other half played with Dukes. Lots of unhappy parents.

You must be one of those parents! Maybe you should speak up to the club and coach

Congratulations Igloo 2022 on winning the Battle By The Bay!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coach of Api/Dacks is more about dukes team then he is about his own team.

Yes changed practice time and location. Had API practice same location as tournament but had practice before it started. Then sent half team home the other half played with Dukes. Lots of unhappy parents.

Why not enter API in the tournament instead of feeding kids to another team? Doesn't make sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coach of Api/Dacks is more about dukes team then he is about his own team.

Yes changed practice time and location. Had API practice same location as tournament but had practice before it started. Then sent half team home the other half played with Dukes. Lots of unhappy parents.

Why not enter API in the tournament instead of feeding kids to another team? Doesn't make sense.

He already got the money from the dback kids once. He can hit them up again as the dukes.

you have zero intelligence. I would probably even go a step further and say you're certifiably brain dead. Does everything that comes out of your mouth smell like sh@t. Seems so because you don't have a clue. This is probably the parent that is the football coach waterboy and also got moved to C bball last year because he could not work with the talent. Smh

Crabs did well--team looks like it has improved from last year. Beat Mesa and HHH yesterday in first games of season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1-2 with hold backs. No more excuses.

So much hate for the Hawks Team

Everyone hates a winner. The American way. Smh

Excuses? Kudos for Hawks coaches for challenging their players against the top teams year in and year out. Losing by 1 goal to the Igloo team and by 2 to Express is hardly making excuses. Hawks don't look for easy games or easy seedlings. Either does Igloo or Express,. 3 programs that play anyone any where.

And the holdback crying is so lame considering that every single team has a holdback. Coming on here talking crap about teams that are just fine and will be just fine is sad. Fall tournament is just that , a fall tournament

Great tournament this weekend and I have lots of respect for the Hawks to give themselves a real schedule on Saturday (even revising the schedule for a third time to add the Express team on their schedule), which is something that most teams who are the home team for a tournament run away from -- but what were they thinking dropping themselves into the 9-12 consolation games yesterday instead of the 5-8 games, where they were supposed to be? Did they need the wins over the two 0-3 teams that much?

Roughriders dominate Halloween havoc. Only allow 3 goals in all four games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders dominate Halloween havoc. Only allow 3 goals in all four games.

The one in Olney?

That was all B/C teams playing - the good teams were invited to play in Annapolis

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders dominate Halloween havoc. Only allow 3 goals in all four games.

What teams where there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1-2 with hold backs. No more excuses.

So much hate for the Hawks Team

Everyone hates a winner. The American way. Smh

Excuses? Kudos for Hawks coaches for challenging their players against the top teams year in and year out. Losing by 1 goal to the Igloo team and by 2 to Express is hardly making excuses. Hawks don't look for easy games or easy seedlings. Either does Igloo or Express,. 3 programs that play anyone any where.

And the holdback crying is so lame considering that every single team has a holdback. Coming on here talking crap about teams that are just fine and will be just fine is sad. Fall tournament is just that , a fall tournament

Great tournament this weekend and I have lots of respect for the Hawks to give themselves a real schedule on Saturday (even revising the schedule for a third time to add the Express team on their schedule), which is something that most teams who are the home team for a tournament run away from -- but what were they thinking dropping themselves into the 9-12 consolation games yesterday instead of the 5-8 games, where they were supposed to be? Did they need the wins over the two 0-3 teams that much?

It looked like the way they fell into the seedings.
Good games yesterday for a fall tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders dominate Halloween havoc. Only allow 3 goals in all four games.

What teams where there?

Murderer's Row. Bethesda's B team, Madlax MD/VA team, HOCO, Ground Control. All the heavy hitters.

Madlax's B teams got abused at Halloween Havoc.

You better dominate a b/c tournament. Sounds like the posting parent needs an attaboy! Heard hoco and rough riders in ship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders dominate Halloween havoc. Only allow 3 goals in all four games.

The one in Olney?

That was all B/C teams playing - the good teams were invited to play in Annapolis

And who, Mr. Wizzard, are the good teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax's B teams got abused at Halloween Havoc.

And tell me again I am crazy when I point out people go our of their way to bash Madlax.

Rough Riders will have their hands full this weekend vs. FCA and Hawks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders dominate Halloween havoc. Only allow 3 goals in all four games.

The one in Olney?

That was all B/C teams playing - the good teams were invited to play in Annapolis

And who, Mr. Wizzard, are the good teams?

In MD, it would be Hawks, API, Crabs, FCA, 89+2, Madlax(Capital), BLC(with their guest players). I don't think it's a secret who the good teams are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders dominate Halloween havoc. Only allow 3 goals in all four games.

The one in Olney?

That was all B/C teams playing - the good teams were invited to play in Annapolis

And who, Mr. Wizzard, are the good teams?

Igloo, LI Express, Madlax A, Hawks, TX Mustangs, Richmond Greyhounds, Dukes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders dominate Halloween havoc. Only allow 3 goals in all four games.

The one in Olney?

That was all B/C teams playing - the good teams were invited to play in Annapolis

And who, Mr. Wizzard, are the good teams?

I think its safe to say the Madlax MD/VA and Bethesda B teams are not the good teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders dominate Halloween havoc. Only allow 3 goals in all four games.

The one in Olney?

That was all B/C teams playing - the good teams were invited to play in Annapolis

And who, Mr. Wizzard, are the good teams?

I think its safe to say the Madlax MD/VA and Bethesda B teams are not the good teams

Who were the good 2022 teams invited to play in Annapolis this weekend?

hawks
madlax
express-ny
igloo-ny -they won vs Richmond greyhounds, who had some big boys
dukes national
next level
igloo b team-went 0-5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hawks
madlax
express-ny
igloo-ny -they won vs Richmond greyhounds, who had some big boys
dukes national
next level
igloo b team-went 0-5

Congrats to Igloo. Sounds like they are playing well right now. How did express do?

Roughriders.....lol. The other teams ahould have dressed in Team 9D1 unis. Woulda scared the bejessus out of them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders.....lol. The other teams ahould have dressed in Team 9D1 unis. Woulda scared the bejessus out of them

What a total POS you are. Real big man, could this be MM himself.
Get your facts straight, MM is scared sh*tless of Roughriders, as he is of any team that so much as touches his son or plays a zone defense against his team.
If Team91 Md was in that tournament and played RR, they would have been blown off the field.
Next time a hole, get your facts straight before you start putting down 12 year olds. You are very close to winning A hole of the year.

I do know that many of kids from RR and I am sure other programs as well play soccer and football on Saturdays therefore they must schedule Sunday only tournaments. No one is scared of anybody and I am sure teams have put last year behind them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hawks
madlax
express-ny
igloo-ny -they won vs Richmond greyhounds, who had some big boys
dukes national
next level
igloo b team-went 0-5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hawks
madlax
express-ny
igloo-ny -they won vs Richmond greyhounds, who had some big boys
dukes national
next level
igloo b team-went 0-5

Thanks Igloo A parent. You are so obvious. Put an Ad in USA Today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders.....lol. The other teams ahould have dressed in Team 9D1 unis. Woulda scared the bejessus out of them

What a total POS you are. Real big man, could this be MM himself.
Get your facts straight, MM is scared sh*tless of Roughriders, as he is of any team that so much as touches his son or plays a zone defense against his team.
If Team91 Md was in that tournament and played RR, they would have been blown off the field.
Next time a hole, get your facts straight before you start putting down 12 year olds. You are very close to winning A hole of the year.

Ahhh, hahaha, ok. Yeah, blown off the field. Funny. Thanks for going easy on us last year and letting 9D1 win and thanks for wimping out and refusing to play us in Hoco and the Elite 8...saved us a butt whippin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do know that many of kids from RR and I am sure other programs as well play soccer and football on Saturdays therefore they must schedule Sunday only tournaments. No one is scared of anybody and I am sure teams have put last year behind them

It's no secret that RR historically plays in B level tournaments for the most part. CSE does not draw talent to their events anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do know that many of kids from RR and I am sure other programs as well play soccer and football on Saturdays therefore they must schedule Sunday only tournaments. No one is scared of anybody and I am sure teams have put last year behind them

It's no secret that RR historically plays in B level tournaments for the most part. CSE does not draw talent to their events anymore.

Not a RR parent, But lets not go under estimating any team in the fall of a new season. RR was a very good team last year and hung tough with all the so called top MD teams all year. They also had the biggest upset win last year to make to the Championship in one of the 2 toughest leagues.
Not sure there is to gain by bashing them before you even play them. Once again the [lacrosse] bags just can't resist . Classic morons bringing up last year . Their record last year speaks for itself and sounds like they are off to a good start.
Good coaching , putting them in a tournament to get a good feel where they are as a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders.....lol. The other teams ahould have dressed in Team 9D1 unis. Woulda scared the bejessus out of them

Dude ! Seriously. Is that the type jokes you tell your kid. I bet your kid thinks the same thing everyone on here thinks when you say crap like that about other KIDS.
'what a piece of [lacrosse]'. Feel bad your kid.Especially cause he knows his dad is a wimp with a big mouth behind closed doors and anonymous web sites.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders.....lol. The other teams ahould have dressed in Team 9D1 unis. Woulda scared the bejessus out of them

What a total POS you are. Real big man, could this be MM himself.
Get your facts straight, MM is scared sh*tless of Roughriders, as he is of any team that so much as touches his son or plays a zone defense against his team.
If Team91 Md was in that tournament and played RR, they would have been blown off the field.
Next time a hole, get your facts straight before you start putting down 12 year olds. You are very close to winning A hole of the year.

Ahhh, hahaha, ok. Yeah, blown off the field. Funny. Thanks for going easy on us last year and letting 9D1 win and thanks for wimping out and refusing to play us in Hoco and the Elite 8...saved us a butt whippin

Are you really still trying to defend MM behavior last year.. Best thing for you is to let that one go. Im sure MM and every other coach has. they are big boys. MM knows he was a [lacrosse] .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders.....lol. The other teams ahould have dressed in Team 9D1 unis. Woulda scared the bejessus out of them

What a total POS you are. Real big man, could this be MM himself.
Get your facts straight, MM is scared sh*tless of Roughriders, as he is of any team that so much as touches his son or plays a zone defense against his team.
If Team91 Md was in that tournament and played RR, they would have been blown off the field.
Next time a hole, get your facts straight before you start putting down 12 year olds. You are very close to winning A hole of the year.

Ahhh, hahaha, ok. Yeah, blown off the field. Funny. Thanks for going easy on us last year and letting 9D1 win and thanks for wimping out and refusing to play us in Hoco and the Elite 8...saved us a butt whippin

. Go back and get your facts straight. 91 refused to play RR after the game when MM's son was checked and he went crazy. RR were ready but MM backed out. I could care less how much he may know about lacrosse, he is the biggest [lacrosse] in youth lacrosse and I would never let my son play for him or even be near him. Play zone against his team and he has another hissy fit. Would love to see him out of youth lacrosse, the game would be better without him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs did well--team looks like it has improved from last year. Beat Mesa and HHH yesterday in first games of season.

How did the rest of the teams do? Did either of the PA teams compete with our boys? And was it FCA's A team or their B team again?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs did well--team looks like it has improved from last year. Beat Mesa and HHH yesterday in first games of season.

How did the rest of the teams do? Did either of the PA teams compete with our boys? And was it FCA's A team or their B team again?

It was FCA blue. They won all three games pretty easily.

Classic stuff on here after a great weekend of fall lacrosse. Same jerk offs crying and whining about other teams and coaches. Same 2 idiots from RR and 89+2 picking right up where they left off. Still waiting for the API daddies to chime in on how the Hawks cheat and how good they are. OH ' wait, maybe they have nothing to say because half their team are sell outs. Or the Crabbies defended their team about the holdbacks. What a great year it is going to be on BOTC 2022

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs did well--team looks like it has improved from last year. Beat Mesa and HHH yesterday in first games of season.

How did the rest of the teams do? Did either of the PA teams compete with our boys? And was it FCA's A team or their B team again?

It was FCA blue. They won all three games pretty easily.

What about Crabs and 50+40+one? Did they sweep too?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs did well--team looks like it has improved from last year. Beat Mesa and HHH yesterday in first games of season.

How did the rest of the teams do? Did either of the PA teams compete with our boys? And was it FCA's A team or their B team again?

It was FCA blue. They won all three games pretty easily.

Everyone swept. I think Crabs may have had the only close game of the day against MESA.

What about Crabs and 50+40+one? Did they sweep too?

Crabs swept and yes close game with Mesa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do know that many of kids from RR and I am sure other programs as well play soccer and football on Saturdays therefore they must schedule Sunday only tournaments. No one is scared of anybody and I am sure teams have put last year behind them

It's no secret that RR historically plays in B level tournaments for the most part. CSE does not draw talent to their events anymore.

Not a RR parent, But lets not go under estimating any team in the fall of a new season. RR was a very good team last year and hung tough with all the so called top MD teams all year. They also had the biggest upset win last year to make to the Championship in one of the 2 toughest leagues.
Not sure there is to gain by bashing them before you even play them. Once again the [lacrosse] bags just can't resist . Classic morons bringing up last year . Their record last year speaks for itself and sounds like they are off to a good start.
Good coaching , putting them in a tournament to get a good feel where they are as a team.

Well said. It's just fall people!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic stuff on here after a great weekend of fall lacrosse. Same jerk offs crying and whining about other teams and coaches. Same 2 idiots from RR and 89+2 picking right up where they left off. Still waiting for the API daddies to chime in on how the Hawks cheat and how good they are. OH ' wait, maybe they have nothing to say because half their team are sell outs. Or the Crabbies defended their team about the holdbacks. What a great year it is going to be on BOTC 2022

Like music to my ears, We can hope it gets even better!! Which i am sure it will!!

The kids are talking. Heard we got trouble in Hawks land. Pulled out of a tournament this weekend. Watching film and 3 a days instead. Bet those Hawk daddys are mad. Don't change a thing over there guys lol

Which tournament did the Hawks pull out of?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which tournament did the Hawks pull out of?

Some Delaware tournament that supposedly had college scouts coming. Tough one dads. Have to wait another week to get a scholarship now. Win win win!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic stuff on here after a great weekend of fall lacrosse. Same jerk offs crying and whining about other teams and coaches. Same 2 idiots from RR and 89+2 picking right up where they left off. Still waiting for the API daddies to chime in on how the Hawks cheat and how good they are. OH ' wait, maybe they have nothing to say because half their team are sell outs. Or the Crabbies defended their team about the holdbacks. What a great year it is going to be on BOTC 2022

Like music to my ears, We can hope it gets even better!! Which i am sure it will!!

You are both pathetic idiots. If this is the crap you like to hear, then yes you are pathetic. Most of us would rather hear positive things about kids, games, tournaments and teams, not the above listed bs you two seem to enjoy.
[lacrosse], I would bet you two might be behind some of the negative bs.

So why no chatter about Bethesda LC 2022 Blue? They killed all the competition at the Branywine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic stuff on here after a great weekend of fall lacrosse. Same jerk offs crying and whining about other teams and coaches. Same 2 idiots from RR and 89+2 picking right up where they left off. Still waiting for the API daddies to chime in on how the Hawks cheat and how good they are. OH ' wait, maybe they have nothing to say because half their team are sell outs. Or the Crabbies defended their team about the holdbacks. What a great year it is going to be on BOTC 2022

Like music to my ears, We can hope it gets even better!! Which i am sure it will!!

You are both pathetic idiots. If this is the crap you like to hear, then yes you are pathetic. Most of us would rather hear positive things about kids, games, tournaments and teams, not the above listed bs you two seem to enjoy.
[lacrosse], I would bet you two might be behind some of the negative bs.

I would bet there are more trolls trying to make other clubs look bad than legitimate posters on here. Leave the Hawks alone. The kids are having fun as hard as it is for you people to hear.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So why no chatter about Bethesda LC 2022 Blue? They killed all the competition at the Branywine.

Probably because your team is AA and you went to a tournament with A & B teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which tournament did the Hawks pull out of?

Some Delaware tournament that supposedly had college scouts coming. Tough one dads. Have to wait another week to get a scholarship now. Win win win!!!

Pulled out bc competition was weak, I heard. That team looks for good competition. Not trophy chasers. I can respect that. PUWZTF

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The kids are talking. Heard we got trouble in Hawks land. Pulled out of a tournament this weekend. Watching film and 3 a days instead. Bet those Hawk daddys are mad. Don't change a thing over there guys lol

What's your problem? Have you seen the competition at that touney? It's terrible. Waste of time to go up there. I'd call pulling out smart.

Where is API playing this fall?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which tournament did the Hawks pull out of?

Some Delaware tournament that supposedly had college scouts coming. Tough one dads. Have to wait another week to get a scholarship now. Win win win!!!

Pulled out bc competition was weak, I heard. That team looks for good competition. Not trophy chasers. I can respect that. PUWZTF

Than play kids their own age 2021

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which tournament did the Hawks pull out of?

Some Delaware tournament that supposedly had college scouts coming. Tough one dads. Have to wait another week to get a scholarship now. Win win win!!!

Pulled out bc competition was weak, I heard. That team looks for good competition. Not trophy chasers. I can respect that. PUWZTF

Competition may be weak (just saw LI Express in there though) but c'mon, that isn't why they pulled out. Hit the film room guys and see how it goes Sunday. None of those teams practice as much as you so should be a breeze lol

Just read that Madlax is sending their AA teams now to Halloween Havoc. That is embarrassing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is API playing this fall?

In Dukes unis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic stuff on here after a great weekend of fall lacrosse. Same jerk offs crying and whining about other teams and coaches. Same 2 idiots from RR and 89+2 picking right up where they left off. Still waiting for the API daddies to chime in on how the Hawks cheat and how good they are. OH ' wait, maybe they have nothing to say because half their team are sell outs. Or the Crabbies defended their team about the holdbacks. What a great year it is going to be on BOTC 2022

Like music to my ears, We can hope it gets even better!! Which i am sure it will!!

You are both pathetic idiots. If this is the crap you like to hear, then yes you are pathetic. Most of us would rather hear positive things about kids, games, tournaments and teams, not the above listed bs you two seem to enjoy.
[lacrosse], I would bet you two might be behind some of the negative bs.

maybe you missed the sarcasm in the original thread IDIOT.. It was a simple observation from the tools like yourself that come on here bashing others for their comments. Seems you are the biggest tool on here for missing the point that was given.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which tournament did the Hawks pull out of?

Some Delaware tournament that supposedly had college scouts coming. Tough one dads. Have to wait another week to get a scholarship now. Win win win!!!

Pulled out bc competition was weak, I heard. That team looks for good competition. Not trophy chasers. I can respect that. PUWZTF

Competition may be weak (just saw LI Express in there though) but c'mon, that isn't why they pulled out. Hit the film room guys and see how it goes Sunday. None of those teams practice as much as you so should be a breeze lol

How does you know how much they practice ? How do you know how old they are? Why are you swinging from their nutz ? You really have nothing else to do than bash a very good lax team . Sounds like a lot of jealousy on your part. Maybe when the Hawks play your kids team you can let every one know before hand . Then we would all like to hear your cry baby comments afterwards.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just read that Madlax is sending their AA teams now to Halloween Havoc. That is embarrassing.

Sounds like coaches want to know exactly where the team is. Sounds smart. Just like the Hawks coaching pulling out of a tournament they might not be ready for or have other reasons for.
Bashing teams for what they do in the fall is embarrassing .. Hawks and Madlax just played in the Toughest tournament so far . Where was everyone else? They sure were not playing against 4 ,5 best teams in this age group .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which tournament did the Hawks pull out of?

Some Delaware tournament that supposedly had college scouts coming. Tough one dads. Have to wait another week to get a scholarship now. Win win win!!!

Pulled out bc competition was weak, I heard. That team looks for good competition. Not trophy chasers. I can respect that. PUWZTF

Competition may be weak (just saw LI Express in there though) but c'mon, that isn't why they pulled out. Hit the film room guys and see how it goes Sunday. None of those teams practice as much as you so should be a breeze lol

not a Hawk parent, You sound like a stalker with all that tough talk .. Pathetic post from what sounds like a pathetic dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just read that Madlax is sending their AA teams now to Halloween Havoc. That is embarrassing.

Sounds like coaches want to know exactly where the team is. Sounds smart. Just like the Hawks coaching pulling out of a tournament they might not be ready for or have other reasons for.
Bashing teams for what they do in the fall is embarrassing .. Hawks and Madlax just played in the Toughest tournament so far . Where was everyone else? They sure were not playing against 4 ,5 best teams in this age group .

oh wait ' Half of API played in same tourney but in a different uniform.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic stuff on here after a great weekend of fall lacrosse. Same jerk offs crying and whining about other teams and coaches. Same 2 idiots from RR and 89+2 picking right up where they left off. Still waiting for the API daddies to chime in on how the Hawks cheat and how good they are. OH ' wait, maybe they have nothing to say because half their team are sell outs. Or the Crabbies defended their team about the holdbacks. What a great year it is going to be on BOTC 2022

Like music to my ears, We can hope it gets even better!! Which i am sure it will!!

You are both pathetic idiots. If this is the crap you like to hear, then yes you are pathetic. Most of us would rather hear positive things about kids, games, tournaments and teams, not the above listed bs you two seem to enjoy.
[lacrosse], I would bet you two might be behind some of the negative bs.

Lighten up there Francis! Ever heard of sarcasm?? Your little rant shows what a moron you are.,,,, I bet you are a blast at parties!.that is a sarcastic joke directed at you if you dont understand! LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which tournament did the Hawks pull out of?

Some Delaware tournament that supposedly had college scouts coming. Tough one dads. Have to wait another week to get a scholarship now. Win win win!!!

Pulled out bc competition was weak, I heard. That team looks for good competition. Not trophy chasers. I can respect that. PUWZTF

Competition may be weak (just saw LI Express in there though) but c'mon, that isn't why they pulled out. Hit the film room guys and see how it goes Sunday. None of those teams practice as much as you so should be a breeze lol

How does you know how much they practice ? How do you know how old they are? Why are you swinging from their nutz ? You really have nothing else to do than bash a very good lax team . Sounds like a lot of jealousy on your part. Maybe when the Hawks play your kids team you can let every one know before hand . Then we would all like to hear your cry baby comments afterwards.

LOL Everybody knows. Kids talk. We all know each other.Lord knows the parents brag.Come to the Greene Turtle, Coach will tell anyone who listens how great they are. Even though he is already recruiting kids for next year. Have they told you that? Be humble about it. Keep it about the kids and not both sidelines. Agree, the kids we know are great kids. Too bad they are pawns in this checkers game.

Good luck this weekend. Should be a romp since no one has been on the field half as much as you. Congrats in advance on the championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which tournament did the Hawks pull out of?

Some Delaware tournament that supposedly had college scouts coming. Tough one dads. Have to wait another week to get a scholarship now. Win win win!!!

Pulled out bc competition was weak, I heard. That team looks for good competition. Not trophy chasers. I can respect that. PUWZTF

Competition may be weak (just saw LI Express in there though) but c'mon, that isn't why they pulled out. Hit the film room guys and see how it goes Sunday. None of those teams practice as much as you so should be a breeze lol

How does you know how much they practice ? How do you know how old they are? Why are you swinging from their nutz ? You really have nothing else to do than bash a very good lax team . Sounds like a lot of jealousy on your part. Maybe when the Hawks play your kids team you can let every one know before hand . Then we would all like to hear your cry baby comments afterwards.

LOL Everybody knows. Kids talk. We all know each other.Lord knows the parents brag.Come to the Greene Turtle, Coach will tell anyone who listens how great they are. Even though he is already recruiting kids for next year. Have they told you that? Be humble about it. Keep it about the kids and not both sidelines. Agree, the kids we know are great kids. Too bad they are pawns in this checkers game.

Good luck this weekend. Should be a romp since no one has been on the field half as much as you. Congrats in advance on the championship.

keep on swinging from those nuts. Every reply makes you even more of troll than the next. Just so we are clear , you are bashing a team that practices more than yours? Are you the same trouble maker that starts stuff about all the other teams on here too or just the Hawks. this coming from a non Hawk parent, But a parent that loves jerk offs on here bashing other teams they are clearly jealous of. Then try to act like 'We all know each other'. Kids do talk about their jerk off dads on an anonymous form . So be humble , because even your kids think you are a jerk off.

McDonough tourney looks good this weekend.
What others are out there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McDonough tourney looks good this weekend.
What others are out there

Rough Riders and Hawks only A teams at event. Fca had an a/b mix but mostly b.

Did Madlax win Fallfest?

Did Madlax win this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Madlax win this weekend?

Cannons and madlax undefeated at Fallfest. They were the only A teams in it.

Hawks 7, RR 1

Good game to watch. A lot of skilled players.

What are the indoor leagues teams are signing up for?
MMILL - soccer stop, Columbia MD
Goals Baltimore Box - Catonsville MD
DMV Premier Indoor - Next Level - Rockville Sportsplex, Rockville MD
Madlax Box - Dulles VA

3d at Annapolis Area High School...that's got some very good teams in it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3d at Annapolis Area High School...that's got some very good teams in it

Do they have a 2022 division now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks 7, RR 1

Good game to watch. A lot of skilled players.

6-1 very good game. RR defense is solid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3d at Annapolis Area High School...that's got some very good teams in it

Do they have a 2022 division now?

Website shows youngest division is for 9th grade (2020), so won't work for 2022s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks 7, RR 1

Good game to watch. A lot of skilled players.

6-1 very good game. RR defense is solid

Rough Riders looked very good and are well coached.
Hawks still seem to be the team to beat in MD.

Where is everyone playing this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is everyone playing this weekend?

Fall brawl on eastern shore
Autumn classic in Aberdeen

Do you think its a problem if a 2022 player plays on more than one team?

Me personally I think if a kid has an opportunity to play they should and no club should EVER tell a kid they can't play anywhere else. Especially after making their tuition payment.

Sounds ridiculous but it happens. Just think of this this way, if the parents told the club coach once the team was formed they can't add any players or coach anywhere else how would that sound? Crazy right, so what gives the coaches the right To tell a kid they can't play anywhere else except for them. NONE. They would drop them in a hearbeat if they found someone better. Just sounds crazy how some of these guys think. They have no loyalty to your kid but if the kid finds another outlet outside of their lacrosse empire they go nuts. Makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think its a problem if a 2022 player plays on more than one team?

Me personally I think if a kid has an opportunity to play they should and no club should EVER tell a kid they can't play anywhere else. Especially after making their tuition payment.

Sounds ridiculous but it happens. Just think of this this way, if the parents told the club coach once the team was formed they can't add any players or coach anywhere else how would that sound? Crazy right, so what gives the coaches the right To tell a kid they can't play anywhere else except for them. NONE. They would drop them in a hearbeat if they found someone better. Just sounds crazy how some of these guys think. They have no loyalty to your kid but if the kid finds another outlet outside of their lacrosse empire they go nuts. Makes no sense.

Sometimes the coaches over step their boundries.

API/DBACKS will playing the Autumn classic..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think its a problem if a 2022 player plays on more than one team?

Me personally I think if a kid has an opportunity to play they should and no club should EVER tell a kid they can't play anywhere else. Especially after making their tuition payment.

Sounds ridiculous but it happens. Just think of this this way, if the parents told the club coach once the team was formed they can't add any players or coach anywhere else how would that sound? Crazy right, so what gives the coaches the right To tell a kid they can't play anywhere else except for them. NONE. They would drop them in a hearbeat if they found someone better. Just sounds crazy how some of these guys think. They have no loyalty to your kid but if the kid finds another outlet outside of their lacrosse empire they go nuts. Makes no sense.

Sometimes the coaches over step their boundries.

Not if everyone is on it and is onboard. However there is something to be said as parents to teach commitment , sportsmanship and integrity. Especially if your team or club is not ! My son would not be on a team that didn't teach those tangibles , especially for the amount of time my kid spends with team and club. Money is money and the work put in on the field should always determine a players spot on team. (and wether he wanted to play somewhere else)
Playing on another club that might directly conflict is not sending a good message to anyone especially coaches and players. To play for a secondary club and get out and have fun without the pressures of main club should be fine as long as they don't conflict or everyone on all teams are onboard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think its a problem if a 2022 player plays on more than one team?

Me personally I think if a kid has an opportunity to play they should and no club should EVER tell a kid they can't play anywhere else. Especially after making their tuition payment.

Sounds ridiculous but it happens. Just think of this this way, if the parents told the club coach once the team was formed they can't add any players or coach anywhere else how would that sound? Crazy right, so what gives the coaches the right To tell a kid they can't play anywhere else except for them. NONE. They would drop them in a hearbeat if they found someone better. Just sounds crazy how some of these guys think. They have no loyalty to your kid but if the kid finds another outlet outside of their lacrosse empire they go nuts. Makes no sense.

Sometimes the coaches over step their boundries.

Not if everyone is on it and is onboard. However there is something to be said as parents to teach commitment , sportsmanship and integrity. Especially if your team or club is not ! My son would not be on a team that didn't teach those tangibles , especially for the amount of time my kid spends with team and club. Money is money and the work put in on the field should always determine a players spot on team. (and wether he wanted to play somewhere else)
Playing on another club that might directly conflict is not sending a good message to anyone especially coaches and players. To play for a secondary club and get out and have fun without the pressures of main club should be fine as long as they don't conflict or everyone on all teams are onboard.

Agreed ^^^^
You should know before joining a club what their thoughts are or policies about playing for 2 teams. Most clubs ask that you do not before agreeing to play or pay a dime. Most clubs have been down this path before and it never turns out good for anyone involved especially the player. Which is why clubs prefer or don't allow it. Clubs also make their position very clear at the very start .
'going nuts if a player chooses to play for 2 clubs is a stretch for these top coaches and clubs. They know the commitment level it takes to be one 1 team let alone 2. If it is playing time or some other underlining reasons for playing on 2 teams than thats a whole different topic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API/DBACKS will playing the Autumn classic..

Very good line up at autumn classic
Crabs
Vlc
Mad dog
Legacy
Madlax
T 9-1 md
Also

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API/DBACKS will playing the Autumn classic..

Very good line up at autumn classic
Crabs
Vlc
Mad dog
Legacy
Madlax
T 9-1

Madlax wins
Also

Thanks, Madlax dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think its a problem if a 2022 player plays on more than one team?

Me personally I think if a kid has an opportunity to play they should and no club should EVER tell a kid they can't play anywhere else. Especially after making their tuition payment.

Sounds ridiculous but it happens. Just think of this this way, if the parents told the club coach once the team was formed they can't add any players or coach anywhere else how would that sound? Crazy right, so what gives the coaches the right To tell a kid they can't play anywhere else except for them. NONE. They would drop them in a hearbeat if they found someone better. Just sounds crazy how some of these guys think. They have no loyalty to your kid but if the kid finds another outlet outside of their lacrosse empire they go nuts. Makes no sense.

Many clubs request this. They don't want kids to play for multiple clubs because it can be an issue if both clubs are playing on the same day.

If you don't like that policy, play for a different club. They have every right to demand that, and you have every right to play elsewhere if you disagree.

Did Dukes/API combine teams? There must be more coaches then kids on the sidelines then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Dukes/API combine teams? There must be more coaches then kids on the sidelines then.

There is a travel line for dad coaches as well. Only the top dad coaches get to attend.

i wish the same for parents as you would be sitting in the car. Jackass. Your balls are prolbably detached and you have a choad! Another dad with penis envy. On the island we call that DWPE
I hope your kids don't have the choad trait.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Dukes/API combine teams? There must be more coaches then kids on the sidelines then.

There is a travel line for dad coaches as well. Only the top dad coaches get to attend.

Now that was funny!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i wish the same for parents as you would be sitting in the car. Jackass. Your balls are prolbably detached and you have a choad! Another dad with penis envy. On the island we call that DWPE
I hope your kids don't have the choad trait.

Which island are you referring to? I would have to guess Rikers Island based on your fascination with someone else's penis.

Dear Mr. Choad
That response is lame. Don't worry I and sure you can make up for your "short comings"
Don't deflect [lacrosse] already bad enough with you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dear Mr. Choad
That response is lame. Don't worry I and sure you can make up for your "short comings"
Don't deflect [lacrosse] already bad enough with you.

What are you even talking about? Typical crazy Long Island Dad.

Crabs lose to Madlax at autumn classic. A trend continues.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose to Madlax at autumn classic. A trend continues.

others scores?
is there an overall winner yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose to Madlax at autumn classic. A trend continues.

Not a Crabs parent but I watched the game and MadLax won 8-7. Tough game that could have went either way. MadLax shouldn't be cocky...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose to Madlax at autumn classic. A trend continues.

others scores?
is there an overall winner yet?

API over Madlax in semis. Ship game now API v MD91

Good day for Rough Riders at Fall Brawl. Wins over FCA NY, Bucktown, and Richmond Greyhounds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose to Madlax at autumn classic. A trend continues.

others scores?
is there an overall winner yet?

Final Four teams - T9-1MD, DBacks, Madlax, & Legacy.
Most teams had a very easy path to the final 4. Only five A level teams in tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good day for Rough Riders at Fall Brawl. Wins over FCA NY, Bucktown, and Richmond Greyhounds.

Just to clarify that it's FCA White. Don't misrepresent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good day for Rough Riders at Fall Brawl. Wins over FCA NY, Bucktown, and Richmond Greyhounds.

Just to clarify that it's FCA White. Don't misrepresent.

FCA Navy. In your haste to disparage the team, you missed where it said FCA, NY. Congrats to 91 MD.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose to Madlax at autumn classic. A trend continues.

others scores?
is there an overall winner yet?

Final Four teams - T9-1MD, DBacks, Madlax, & Legacy.
Most teams had a very easy path to the final 4. Only five A level teams in tournament.

Was this a Crabs tournament?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good day for Rough Riders at Fall Brawl. Wins over FCA NY, Bucktown, and Richmond Greyhounds.

Just to clarify that it's FCA White. Don't misrepresent.

FCA upstate NY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose to Madlax at autumn classic. A trend continues.

others scores?
is there an overall winner yet?

Final Four teams - T9-1MD, DBacks, Madlax, & Legacy.
Most teams had a very easy path to the final 4. Only five A level teams in tournament.

Was this a Crabs tournament?

Aloha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose to Madlax at autumn classic. A trend continues.

others scores?
is there an overall winner yet?

Final Four teams - T9-1MD, DBacks, Madlax, & Legacy.
Most teams had a very easy path to the final 4. Only five A level teams in tournament.

5 A level teams? Sounds like a good turn out and a good tourney

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good day for Rough Riders at Fall Brawl. Wins over FCA NY, Bucktown, and Richmond Greyhounds.

Just to clarify that it's FCA White. Don't misrepresent.

Hey meathead, just to clarify, this is how FCA is listed on the schedule "FCA Upstate 2022 Navy". Nope, you are wrong again, it isn't FCA white. You are the one misrepresenting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good day for Rough Riders at Fall Brawl. Wins over FCA NY, Bucktown, and Richmond Greyhounds.

Just to clarify that it's FCA White. Don't misrepresent.

Hey meathead, just to clarify, this is how FCA is listed on the schedule "FCA Upstate 2022 Navy". Nope, you are wrong again, it isn't FCA white. You are the one misrepresenting.

FCA upstate talk to parents they where from Rochester NY.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose to Madlax at autumn classic. A trend continues.

others scores?
is there an overall winner yet?

Final Four teams - T9-1MD, DBacks, Madlax, & Legacy.
Most teams had a very easy path to the final 4. Only five A level teams in tournament.

T9-1md wins it all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good day for Rough Riders at Fall Brawl. Wins over FCA NY, Bucktown, and Richmond Greyhounds.

Just to clarify that it's FCA White. Don't misrepresent.

Hey meathead, just to clarify, this is how FCA is listed on the schedule "FCA Upstate 2022 Navy". Nope, you are wrong again, it isn't FCA white. You are the one misrepresenting.

Even worse. At least FCA White is a decent team. Why come on here and spout of about Roughriders beating a bunch of C teams?

3-2 91 0ver Dbacks in 30 minute game.
Great game to watch. Great coaching. Not a parent of either team but 91 coach crys a lot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3-2 91 0ver Dbacks in 30 minute game.
Great game to watch. Great coaching. Not a parent of either team but 91 coach crys a lot.

Crying about the zone again?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3-2 91 0ver Dbacks in 30 minute game.
Great game to watch. Great coaching. Not a parent of either team but 91 coach crys a lot.

Want to see some big tears..put a zone on him..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3-2 91 0ver Dbacks in 30 minute game.
Great game to watch. Great coaching. Not a parent of either team but 91 coach crys a lot.

Want to see some big tears..put a zone on him..

Or touch his son. I'm not talking about a dirty hit or anything, just check his son and he is almost out of control yelling at the refs and anyone else who will listen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good day for Rough Riders at Fall Brawl. Wins over FCA NY, Bucktown, and Richmond Greyhounds.

Just to clarify that it's FCA White. Don't misrepresent.

Hey meathead, just to clarify, this is how FCA is listed on the schedule "FCA Upstate 2022 Navy". Nope, you are wrong again, it isn't FCA white. You are the one misrepresenting.

Even worse. At least FCA White is a decent team. Why come on here and spout of about Roughriders beating a bunch of C teams?

Wow, now you want to be critical of what others post? It's really none of your business what people post and I doubt if you are any type of expert who can determine an A from AA from B or C. I'm not associated with Roughriders or FCA but if team had a good weekend let the kids enjoy it, stop being scrooge.

Crabs lose by 1. The trolls come out.
Rough Riders win 3, but the teams are not good enough. The trolls come out.
9-1 wins tough tourney, but against a zone. The trolls come out.

Are there that many trolls or is this one guy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose by 1. The trolls come out.
Rough Riders win 3, but the teams are not good enough. The trolls come out.
9-1 wins tough tourney, but against a zone. The trolls come out.

Are there that many trolls or is this one guy?

I would bet the troll is you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose by 1. The trolls come out.
Rough Riders win 3, but the teams are not good enough. The trolls come out.
9-1 wins tough tourney, but against a zone. The trolls come out.

Are there that many trolls or is this one guy?

I would bet the troll is you!

Or your wife.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose by 1. The trolls come out.
Rough Riders win 3, but the teams are not good enough. The trolls come out.
9-1 wins tough tourney, but against a zone. The trolls come out.

Are there that many trolls or is this one guy?

I would bet the troll is you!

Or your wife.

Sorry pal, not mine, I know where she is but I bet you have no idea what your wife is doing during the day while you are at Berger King working the drive up window.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose by 1. The trolls come out.
Rough Riders win 3, but the teams are not good enough. The trolls come out.
9-1 wins tough tourney, but against a zone. The trolls come out.

Are there that many trolls or is this one guy?

I would bet the troll is you!

Or your wife.

Sorry pal, not mine, I know where she is but I bet you have no idea what your wife is doing during the day while you are at Berger King working the drive up window.

Berger? haha. This post was definitely from an api parent.

What was NL Richmond Greyhounds record at battle on the bay.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was NL Richmond Greyhounds record at battle on the bay.

3-2
Lost 6-10 to Igloo A
Won 9-2 over Leading Edge
Beat Texas Mustangs
Won 10-7 over Duke's National Team (API) in semifinals
Lost 4-6 to Igloo A in championship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good day for Rough Riders at Fall Brawl. Wins over FCA NY, Bucktown, and Richmond Greyhounds.

Just to clarify that it's FCA White. Don't misrepresent.

Hey meathead, just to clarify, this is how FCA is listed on the schedule "FCA Upstate 2022 Navy". Nope, you are wrong again, it isn't FCA white. You are the one misrepresenting.

Even worse. At least FCA White is a decent team. Why come on here and spout of about Roughriders beating a bunch of C teams?

Roughriders beat FCA white last weekend at the McDonogh tournament by a bunch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs lose by 1. The trolls come out.
Rough Riders win 3, but the teams are not good enough. The trolls come out.
9-1 wins tough tourney, but against a zone. The trolls come out.

Are there that many trolls or is this one guy?

That's what happens with auto fill. Modern technology at its best. Try again Burger. Two tries but it worked.

I would bet the troll is you!

Or your wife.

Sorry pal, not mine, I know where she is but I bet you have no idea what your wife is doing during the day while you are at Berger King working the drive up window.

Berger? haha. This post was definitely from an api parent.

That's what happens with auto fill. Modern technology at its best. Try again Burger. Two tries but it worked. Nope, not an api parent.

anyone know anything about Athletic Passports a new age verification site some tournaments are using.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know anything about Athletic Passports a new age verification site some tournaments are using.

Shouldn't apply to most MD club leagues and tournaments, which are all grade-based.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know anything about Athletic Passports a new age verification site some tournaments are using.

Shouldn't apply to most MD club leagues and tournaments, which are all grade-based.

US LACROSSE site now also doing age verification.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know anything about Athletic Passports a new age verification site some tournaments are using.

Shouldn't apply to most MD club leagues and tournaments, which are all grade-based.

US LACROSSE site now also doing age verification.

Again, doesn't matter. MD travel/club leagues and tournaments are almost all grade-based.

Rec programs in MD are still age-based, and perhaps some of them will start using some of these age verification tools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know anything about Athletic Passports a new age verification site some tournaments are using.

Shouldn't apply to most MD club leagues and tournaments, which are all grade-based.

US LACROSSE site now also doing age verification.

Little too late, Maryland along with PA, NJ and further North have all gone grade base with many holdbacks/reclassed/prefirst kids.
Not sure how you stop this now as it is in all Maryland top clubs. MIAA is the place for top players in MD. All MIAA High School teams are littered with kids heldback/prefisrts and have been for many years. The coaches of Clubs in MD have ties to the MIAA schools as Coaches and Assistant coaches. If you are a top player in MD that is where you want to be.

So I see this a too little too late. It is a shame as the USL should have come out swinging at all this playing down in the name of grades a few years ago. And even worst the problem will be getting worst as more and more people hold their child back for lacrosse.

God, do you LI dads have nothing else to cry about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know anything about Athletic Passports a new age verification site some tournaments are using.

Shouldn't apply to most MD club leagues and tournaments, which are all grade-based.

US LACROSSE site now also doing age verification.

Little too late, Maryland along with PA, NJ and further North have all gone grade base with many holdbacks/reclassed/prefirst kids.
Not sure how you stop this now as it is in all Maryland top clubs. MIAA is the place for top players in MD. All MIAA High School teams are littered with kids heldback/prefisrts and have been for many years. The coaches of Clubs in MD have ties to the MIAA schools as Coaches and Assistant coaches. If you are a top player in MD that is where you want to be.

So I see this a too little too late. It is a shame as the USL should have come out swinging at all this playing down in the name of grades a few years ago. And even worst the problem will be getting worst as more and more people hold their child back for lacrosse.

It is not too late for the 2025 and younger groups.

If USL and the club teams can get behind this for single year age groups ( not u13, u11, u9 bs) and the leagues and tournaments support it , everything with be fair and square in 3 or 4 years. You just cant apply these rules with no notice.

Roughriders, Looneys, Rock and Hawks playing real Box in goals league this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know anything about Athletic Passports a new age verification site some tournaments are using.

Shouldn't apply to most MD club leagues and tournaments, which are all grade-based.

US LACROSSE site now also doing age verification.

Little too late, Maryland along with PA, NJ and further North have all gone grade base with many holdbacks/reclassed/prefirst kids.
Not sure how you stop this now as it is in all Maryland top clubs. MIAA is the place for top players in MD. All MIAA High School teams are littered with kids heldback/prefisrts and have been for many years. The coaches of Clubs in MD have ties to the MIAA schools as Coaches and Assistant coaches. If you are a top player in MD that is where you want to be.

So I see this a too little too late. It is a shame as the USL should have come out swinging at all this playing down in the name of grades a few years ago. And even worst the problem will be getting worst as more and more people hold their child back for lacrosse.

It is not too late for the 2025 and younger groups.

If USL and the club teams can get behind this for single year age groups ( not u13, u11, u9 bs) and the leagues and tournaments support it , everything with be fair and square in 3 or 4 years. You just cant apply these rules with no notice.

Crabs?? FCA ? etc..get behind age base! Now that is hilarious.. Not in a million years!!!

It's great to see St Mary's and Spalding working hard to recruit the Hawks and Diamondbacks kids. MIAA championships are on thehm line.

The likelihood that parents are holding kids back and setting themselves up to pay an additional year of tuition, at $20-25,000/yr, is very remote. So please just stop with the whole debate about kids being held back on purpose. Further, it does not really matter if we play age or grade-based lacrosse. Either way USL leans, some kid will always be at a disadvantage. My son, whose birthday is in December, will always be one of the younger kids on an age-based team. In the grade-based system, he is one of the older kids. So regardless of the system, some child somewhere will always be disadvantaged. Besides, those kids who are forced to play with older, faster children will reap the rewards of having to practice with those older children.

On another note, the hold back phenomena is greatly overblown. My child's prefirst class of about 16 children only had about 5 kids who are serious athletes. Most of these 16 kids were at the mercy of the private school admission committee, and virtually all of them came from homes where the parents pushed their kids academically. The result was that most of the kids were assigned to prefirst because the parents had tested them into kindegarten early. As a result, prefirst only served to normalize these children, not give them an advantage.

As I noted, only about five of the children who entered prefirst with my child have turned into great athletes. Of those five, only 3 play lacrosse and two play up a year. This leaves just one kid and a couple of below average athletes, whom your sons are probably already ahead of on the team depth chart, for you to complain about. So in essence, on the top teams in the area you are talking abour maybe 10 kids or so. Does USL really need to make rule changes for a few kids in each age group. Besides, Little Benny should probably get used to playing behind other kids, as this is the likely result for his lacrosse future.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's great to see St Mary's and Spalding working hard to recruit the Hawks and Diamondbacks kids. MIAA championships are on thehm line.

Spaulding should drop down to MIAA B they are the bottom feeders in the A division

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's great to see St Mary's and Spalding working hard to recruit the Hawks and Diamondbacks kids. MIAA championships are on thehm line.

Spaulding should drop down to MIAA B they are the bottom feeders in the A division

learn how to spell, especially when trying to talk crap.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's great to see St Mary's and Spalding working hard to recruit the Hawks and Diamondbacks kids. MIAA championships are on thehm line.

Spaulding should drop down to MIAA B they are the bottom feeders in the A division

In two years Spalding will be on top of A.

Phipps is getting it done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders, Looneys, Rock and Hawks playing real Box in goals league this year.

Crabs are in it and have to be the favorite

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders, Looneys, Rock and Hawks playing real Box in goals league this year.

Crabs are in it and have to be the favorite

It's amazing the amount of immature posters on this forum - Crabs are not even playing in a box league at Goals! Stop stirring up s#%* and get a life dude !!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders, Looneys, Rock and Hawks playing real Box in goals league this year.

Crabs are in it and have to be the favorite

After week one, Rough Riders, Hawks, and Crads could win it. None looked that much better than the other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders, Looneys, Rock and Hawks playing real Box in goals league this year.

Crabs are in it and have to be the favorite

It's amazing the amount of immature posters on this forum - Crabs are not even playing in a box league at Goals! Stop stirring up s#%* and get a life dude !!!

Crab uniforms crab helmets crab lacrosse bags but they are not playing ok...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders, Looneys, Rock and Hawks playing real Box in goals league this year.

Crabs are in it and have to be the favorite

After week one, Rough Riders, Hawks, and Crads could win it. None looked that much better than the other.

You watched all three?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders, Looneys, Rock and Hawks playing real Box in goals league this year.

Crabs are in it and have to be the favorite

After week one, Rough Riders, Hawks, and Crads could win it. None looked that much better than the other.

You watched all three?

too funny.. my thoughts exactly when I saw that reply. Did you have dinner there too ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders, Looneys, Rock and Hawks playing real Box in goals league this year.

Crabs are in it and have to be the favorite

It's amazing the amount of immature posters on this forum - Crabs are not even playing in a box league at Goals! Stop stirring up s#%* and get a life dude !!!

Really Dude? maybe your kid is not playing but there sure as [lacrosse] is a Crab team playing in the Goals league. So relax yourself and check with your club don't be mad here because you got left out! HAHAHAHAHAHAAA Check your life dude!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders, Looneys, Rock and Hawks playing real Box in goals league this year.

Crabs are in it and have to be the favorite

After week one, Rough Riders, Hawks, and Crads could win it. None looked that much better than the other.

You watched all three?

too funny.. my thoughts exactly when I saw that reply. Did you have dinner there too ?

Rock played in last two games and watched end of RR vs Looneys game. (Grilled Cheese Factory across the street)

Why is Crabs only playing in 3 games @goals the rest of teams get 6 or 7 games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is Crabs only playing in 3 games @goals the rest of teams get 6 or 7 games

They are on the full schedule now. Check the goals website.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is Crabs only playing in 3 games @goals the rest of teams get 6 or 7 games

They are on the full schedule now. Check the goals website.

WAIT ! Crabs are not playing in this league!! HAHAHA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is Crabs only playing in 3 games @goals the rest of teams get 6 or 7 games

They are on the full schedule now. Check the goals website.

WAIT ! Crabs are not playing in this league!! HAHAHA

Someone should have held you back.

BOO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is Crabs only playing in 3 games @goals the rest of teams get 6 or 7 games

They are on the full schedule now. Check the goals website.

WAIT ! Crabs are not playing in this league!! HAHAHA

Someone should have held you back.

Crabs play Hawks on Sunday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is Crabs only playing in 3 games @goals the rest of teams get 6 or 7 games

They are on the full schedule now. Check the goals website.

WAIT ! Crabs are not playing in this league!! HAHAHA

Someone should have held you back.

Crabs play Hawks on Sunday.

Game of the Year!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is Crabs only playing in 3 games @goals the rest of teams get 6 or 7 games

They are on the full schedule now. Check the goals website.

WAIT ! Crabs are not playing in this league!! HAHAHA

Someone should have held you back.

Crabs play Hawks on Sunday.

Are we really going to talk about Box games like it actually means something ???

What tournament or league has the crabs 2022 team ever won?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is Crabs only playing in 3 games @goals the rest of teams get 6 or 7 games

They are on the full schedule now. Check the goals website.

WAIT ! Crabs are not playing in this league!! HAHAHA

Someone should have held you back.

Crabs play Hawks on Sunday.

Are we really going to talk about Box games like it actually means something ???

Crabs by 2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is Crabs only playing in 3 games @goals the rest of teams get 6 or 7 games

They are on the full schedule now. Check the goals website.

WAIT ! Crabs are not playing in this league!! HAHAHA

Someone should have held you back.

Crabs play Hawks on Sunday.

Are we really going to talk about Box games like it actually means something ???

[lacrosse] yeah! Crabs, Hawks, Rough Riders, Rock, and Looney's all playing box. You had your chance to sign up.

Crabs by 2 [/quote]

Two what, holdbacks???

Crabs are bigger and faster and are a mixed group of kids from different Crab teams. They should easily win this game and the league.

Crabs - holdbacks? Ya don't say....

Box requires serious stick skills - meatheads need not apply.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs are bigger and faster and are a mixed group of kids from different Crab teams. They should easily win this game and the league.

And I am quite sure different age groups, like maybe half the team are 2021's. Now that would not surprise me, given the way Crabs deals from the bottom of the deck.
Now all we have to do is wait for the Crab faithful to start their pushback saying no, no there are no holdbacks on any Crab team. Just ask Ryan McClernan, he will tell you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs - holdbacks? Ya don't say....

Box requires serious stick skills - meatheads need not apply.

How many holdbacks do the Hawks have?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs - holdbacks? Ya don't say....

Box requires serious stick skills - meatheads need not apply.

How many holdbacks do the Hawks have?

Doesn't matter how many hold backs or pre backs the Hawks or anyone has. Crabs will be the best 2022 team this year in MD. Every team has at least 1 or 2 kids that was born in 2003. Lets not start the cry baby whining about holdbacks again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs - holdbacks? Ya don't say....

Box requires serious stick skills - meatheads need not apply.

How many holdbacks do the Hawks have?

Doesn't matter how many hold backs or pre backs the Hawks or anyone has. Crabs will be the best 2022 team this year in MD. Every team has at least 1 or 2 kids that was born in 2003. Lets not start the cry baby whining about holdbacks again.

The Crabs team that only beat Sweetlax Florida and Mesa by a goal this fall? The team that lost to Madlax this fall? They must have been sandbagging so the other teams didn't know what they were going to have to deal with this spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs - holdbacks? Ya don't say....

Box requires serious stick skills - meatheads need not apply.

How many holdbacks do the Hawks have?

Doesn't matter how many hold backs or pre backs the Hawks or anyone has. Crabs will be the best 2022 team this year in MD. Every team has at least 1 or 2 kids that was born in 2003. Lets not start the cry baby whining about holdbacks again.

1 or 2? Crabs has about 18 kids born in 2003. But the age cutoff is 9/1/2003 for 7th grade. They have 7 or 8 born prior to that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs - holdbacks? Ya don't say....

Box requires serious stick skills - meatheads need not apply.

How many holdbacks do the Hawks have?

Doesn't matter how many hold backs or pre backs the Hawks or anyone has. Crabs will be the best 2022 team this year in MD. Every team has at least 1 or 2 kids that was born in 2003. Lets not start the cry baby whining about holdbacks again.

1 or 2? Crabs has about 18 kids born in 2003. But the age cutoff is 9/1/2003 for 7th grade. They have 7 or 8 born prior to that.

As they say BOOM, Crabs gets exposed again. The truth always reveals itself and Crabs, regardless of the year, is always doing everything they can to game and manipulate the system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs - holdbacks? Ya don't say....

Box requires serious stick skills - meatheads need not apply.

How many holdbacks do the Hawks have?

Doesn't matter how many hold backs or pre backs the Hawks or anyone has. Crabs will be the best 2022 team this year in MD. Every team has at least 1 or 2 kids that was born in 2003. Lets not start the cry baby whining about holdbacks again.

1 or 2? Crabs has about 18 kids born in 2003. But the age cutoff is 9/1/2003 for 7th grade. They have 7 or 8 born prior to that.

As they say BOOM, Crabs gets exposed again. The truth always reveals itself and Crabs, regardless of the year, is always doing everything they can to game and manipulate the system.

I think they take who shows up at this point. Would you like them to cut a kid who shows up at try outs and is better then the younger on age kid? I am sure the Crab daddy ask for the hold backs at one point in history. But now if I have a kid who is a hold back older kid I would go to the Crabs first so at least he will be with other older kids to fit in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs - holdbacks? Ya don't say....

Box requires serious stick skills - meatheads need not apply.

How many holdbacks do the Hawks have?

Doesn't matter how many hold backs or pre backs the Hawks or anyone has. Crabs will be the best 2022 team this year in MD. Every team has at least 1 or 2 kids that was born in 2003. Lets not start the cry baby whining about holdbacks again.

1 or 2? Crabs has about 18 kids born in 2003. But the age cutoff is 9/1/2003 for 7th grade. They have 7 or 8 born prior to that.

As they say BOOM, Crabs gets exposed again. The truth always reveals itself and Crabs, regardless of the year, is always doing everything they can to game and manipulate the system.

I think they take who shows up at this point. Would you like them to cut a kid who shows up at try outs and is better then the younger on age kid? I am sure the Crab daddy ask for the hold backs at one point in history. But now if I have a kid who is a hold back older kid I would go to the Crabs first so at least he will be with other older kids to fit in.

So it's the crabs 7-8 holdbacks vs the Hawks 4-5 holdbacks. Still should be a good game.

Every team has holdbacks. Please.

Hawks have more holdbacks then crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every team has holdbacks. Please.

Please? Really, please. True, every team has holdbacks, a few, and that is well known, except for Crabs, including their 2022 team, has close to 6 or 7 holdbacks, and again, that is well known. Their roster with DOB has been seen this fall.
So, knock off your please bullsh*t and get your head out of the sand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks have more holdbacks then crabs

False. Hawks have half the number of crabs holdbacks.

Any team that pulls from MIAA schools in the Baltimore area is full of holdbacks. Pre-K and reclassification is rampant at BL, Gilman, Loyola, McDonough, etc. Severn and St. Mary's not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks have more holdbacks then crabs

False. Hawks have half the number of crabs holdbacks.

How many out of state players do the Hawks have?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any team that pulls from MIAA schools in the Baltimore area is full of holdbacks. Pre-K and reclassification is rampant at BL, Gilman, Loyola, McDonough, etc. Severn and St. Mary's not so much.

Severn and St Mary's not so much? Think again, they are there just like any other school. The true leaders are BL by a wide margin, followed closely by McDonogh.

How many does Rough Riders have ?
How many does API have ?
How many does Millon have?
How many does FCA have?
How many does BLC have ?
How many does Mad Lax have ?

Answer:
They all do !
Go talk to your coach and get the exact number from your team and then come back on here and let everyone know . Everyone that is that gives a [lacrosse] about this tired old complaint by sore loser daddies and mommies.
Go play rec where everyone gets trophies and child will be a stand out..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks have more holdbacks then crabs

And how many is that exactly?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every team has holdbacks. Please.

Please? Really, please. True, every team has holdbacks, a few, and that is well known, except for Crabs, including their 2022 team, has close to 6 or 7 holdbacks, and again, that is well known. Their roster with DOB has been seen this fall.
So, knock off your please bullsh*t and get your head out of the sand.

Not a crab parent , but if their roster has been sown then there is an exact number correct? not close to 6-7, is it 6 or is it 7.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many does Rough Riders have ?
How many does API have ?
How many does Millon have?
How many does FCA have?
How many does BLC have ?
How many does Mad Lax have ?

Answer:
They all do !
Go talk to your coach and get the exact number from your team and then come back on here and let everyone know . Everyone that is that gives a [lacrosse] about this tired old complaint by sore loser daddies and mommies.
Go play rec where everyone gets trophies and child will be a stand out..

Ok Ryan we will

It is a dumb box game. Whichever team has the biggest goalie will win on the scoreboard. Says nothing about which team is better outdoors or even a regular indoor game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many does Rough Riders have ?
How many does API have ?
How many does Millon have?
How many does FCA have?
How many does BLC have ?
How many does Mad Lax have ?

Answer:
They all do !
Go talk to your coach and get the exact number from your team and then come back on here and let everyone know . Everyone that is that gives a [lacrosse] about this tired old complaint by sore loser daddies and mommies.
Go play rec where everyone gets trophies and child will be a stand out..

Ok Ryan we will

. Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, is this all you have to do with your time? I thought you would be out trolling for more holdbacks for your Crabs program.

You all keep preaching as if you're actually playing. It's so sad about this culture of Baltimore lacrosse. Rare to find anyone contributing to society.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every team has holdbacks. Please.

Please? Really, please. True, every team has holdbacks, a few, and that is well known, except for Crabs, including their 2022 team, has close to 6 or 7 holdbacks, and again, that is well known. Their roster with DOB has been seen this fall.
So, knock off your please bullsh*t and get your head out of the sand.

Not a crab parent , but if their roster has been sown then there is an exact number correct? not close to 6-7, is it 6 or is it 7.

. The correct answer is .................7. Happy now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every team has holdbacks. Please.

Please? Really, please. True, every team has holdbacks, a few, and that is well known, except for Crabs, including their 2022 team, has close to 6 or 7 holdbacks, and again, that is well known. Their roster with DOB has been seen this fall.
So, knock off your please bullsh*t and get your head out of the sand.

Not a crab parent , but if their roster has been sown then there is an exact number correct? not close to 6-7, is it 6 or is it 7.

. The correct answer is .................7. Happy now.

It's more than 7. Someone should be honest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many does Rough Riders have ?
How many does API have ?
How many does Millon have?
How many does FCA have?
How many does BLC have ?
How many does Mad Lax have ?

Answer:
They all do !
Go talk to your coach and get the exact number from your team and then come back on here and let everyone know . Everyone that is that gives a [lacrosse] about this tired old complaint by sore loser daddies and mommies.
Go play rec where everyone gets trophies and child will be a stand out..

Hilarious that the sore loser daddies are the ones whose son play at proper age and get no special advantage . Not the daddies that sons will always have an age advantage their entire time playing youth sports. Or that their sons get an advantage other children do not get that are born on the same exact day as their son. And the only way they got that advantage was being heldback in school by doing prefirst/reclass/failing.

My kid is 16 and it the 8th grade. No advantage over on age kids. Nothing to see here - move along.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 16 and it the 8th grade. No advantage over on age kids. Nothing to see here - move along.

That's pathetic. Almost all on age kids in the 8th grade are 14 years old. double holdback or pre first and holdback still equals a double holdback. Don't really understand your statement no advantage over on age kids. If that is true, even more pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 16 and it the 8th grade. No advantage over on age kids. Nothing to see here - move along.

[img:left]https://www.instagram.com/p/BNdG7NrDP-e/?taken-by=strohphoto[/img]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 16 and it the 8th grade. No advantage over on age kids. Nothing to see here - move along.

[img:left]https://www.instagram.com/p/BNdG7NrDP-e/?taken-by=strohphoto[/img]

Damn, I clicked on that image and now I have to wash out my eyes. Last thing I want to see in the big Crab daddy, Ryan McClernan. Wonder if he is thinking about playing, has a stick in his hand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 16 and it the 8th grade. No advantage over on age kids. Nothing to see here - move along.

That's pathetic. Almost all on age kids in the 8th grade are 14 years old. double holdback or pre first and holdback still equals a double holdback. Don't really understand your statement no advantage over on age kids. If that is true, even more pathetic.

Pretty sure his remark was meant to be sacastic

My kid has his drivers license in the 8th grade and can drive himself to practice. It's within the rules. Nothing to see here - move along.

Wow - what happened to the MMILL?

It used to be a great winter indoor league.

This year only 3 teams (3!) are playing in the 2022 club division - sidewinders, zingos, and wild.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid has his drivers license in the 8th grade and can drive himself to practice. It's within the rules. Nothing to see here - move along.

Get a life, dad.

Api/diamondbacks 2022 has no hold backs but we don't care we will play anyone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Api/diamondbacks 2022 has no hold backs but we don't care we will play anyone

Not without a zone D.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Api/diamondbacks 2022 has no hold backs but we don't care we will play anyone

As long as it doesn't conflict with Dukes. In that case, we'll practice anywhere so our Dukes kids make it to their game on time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow - what happened to the MMILL?

It used to be a great winter indoor league.

This year only 3 teams (3!) are playing in the 2022 club division - sidewinders, zingos, and wild.

The Madlax Capital box lacrosse league is not looking very strong this year either. 4 Cavilier teams, the Madlax Northstar team, and a team of individual kids that signed up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Api/diamondbacks 2022 has no hold backs but we don't care we will play anyone

No holdbacks but lots of daddy ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs are bigger and faster and are a mixed group of kids from different Crab teams. They should easily win this game and the league.

Hawks kick Crabs [lacrosse] win by 20 maybe they need to add some 2020 players also. Jerseys may say Crabs but they looked like a rec team vs Hawks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is Crabs only playing in 3 games @goals the rest of teams get 6 or 7 games

They are on the full schedule now. Check the goals website.

WAIT ! Crabs are not playing in this league!! HAHAHA

Someone should have held you back.

Crabs play Hawks on Sunday.

Are we really going to talk about Box games like it actually means something ???

Crabs by 2

It was not Crabs by2.

Funny seeing 2 former Crabs 2021 players wearing their Crabs gear playing for Hawks 2022 tonight against Crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WAIT ! Crabs are not playing in this league!! HAHAHA

Someone should have held you back.

Crabs play Hawks on Sunday.

Are we really going to talk about Box games like it actually means something ???

Crabs by 2

It was not Crabs by2.[/quote]

Hawks beat Crabs 30-7.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny seeing 2 former Crabs 2021 players wearing their Crabs gear playing for Hawks 2022 tonight against Crabs.

Even funnier that the Crabs where just destroyed by a team that was clearly smaller and clearly better.
Even funnier watching that entire Crab team which was clearly older and bigger get destroyed by a smaller better lacrosse team.

Not a Hawk fan either but that was fun to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny seeing 2 former Crabs 2021 players wearing their Crabs gear playing for Hawks 2022 tonight against Crabs.

30-7 and there were no 2021s on the winning side anyway.

Hawks had a hot goalie and we had no goalie. Nothing else to seeK

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny seeing 2 former Crabs 2021 players wearing their Crabs gear playing for Hawks 2022 tonight against Crabs.

Those boys are Hawks now. Move on

Score wasn't even close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny seeing 2 former Crabs 2021 players wearing their Crabs gear playing for Hawks 2022 tonight against Crabs.

30-7 and there were no 2021s on the winning side anyway.

You are right. The two former Crabs 2021 players are now 2022 as they are repeating 7th grade. They chose to play for hawks as they know that the Crabs 2022 is an average team at best. Their new players aren't very good and they actually lost better players than they picked up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks had a hot goalie and we had no goalie. Nothing else to seeK

The Crabs did not even get off 30 total shots so it was a little more than a hot goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks had a hot goalie and we had no goalie. Nothing else to seeK

The Crabs did not even get off 30 total shots so it was a little more than a hot goalie.

Are you saying 30, like 30 shots isn't a lot in a game??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks had a hot goalie and we had no goalie. Nothing else to seeK

Way to throw your new goalie under the bus. The goalies had nothing to do with the outcome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks had a hot goalie and we had no goalie. Nothing else to seeK

The Crabs did not even get off 30 total shots so it was a little more than a hot goalie.

Are you saying 30, like 30 shots isn't a lot in a game??

It's a box league w shot clock. Does the guy who said 30 shots actually keep stats for winter indoor league?

Those Hawks will leave for other clubs by the time they hit HS. Happens every year. Hawks recruiting record is putrid.

Laughing at you trolls on this message board. Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you. Its kids sports folks, get a life. If and when you guys grow up, you'll understand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those Hawks will leave for other clubs by the time they hit HS. Happens every year. Hawks recruiting record is putrid.

Compared to who? Did a great job for my oldest son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those Hawks will leave for other clubs by the time they hit HS. Happens every year. Hawks recruiting record is putrid.

Compared to who? Did a great job for my oldest son.

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The kids skill level,speed, and size get them recruited. The Hawks play at a high enough level to have the kids seen by every school. All AA and high level A clubs play in the tournaments to be seen. Its up to your kid to show it on the field. No club director at the AA level in this area is any better then the other. They call them to ask questions but its all on what your son shows them when they are watching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laughing at you trolls on this message board. Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you. Its kids sports folks, get a life. If and when you guys grow up, you'll understand.

Shut up and go watch your cat videos.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those Hawks will leave for other clubs by the time they hit HS. Happens every year. Hawks recruiting record is putrid.

The Crabs typically have the majority of talent in the Baltimore area as the Hawks have the majority of Talent in the Annapolis area. Since the Baltimore area population is about 6 times the Annapolis area, the Crabs should have a lot more D1 commits and the fact that you are even comparing them as equals shows what a good job the Hawks are doing.

I can't find my cat videos. I think my five MIAA A Conference championship and multiple college AA certificates are obscuring my view. Or maybe all of the high level lacrosse awards my sons have won. Haha

The holdbacks Hawks beat a bad Crabs no big deal. The 2022 crabs have never won anything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't find my cat videos. I think my five MIAA A Conference championship and multiple college AA certificates are obscuring my view. Or maybe all of the high level lacrosse awards my sons have won. Haha

Despite all of that, you find yourself on the 2022 forums on BOTC like the rest of us.

Mic drop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't find my cat videos. I think my five MIAA A Conference championship and multiple college AA certificates are obscuring my view. Or maybe all of the high level lacrosse awards my sons have won. Haha

Despite all of that, you find yourself on the 2022 forums on BOTC like the rest of us.

I like to watch the freak show at circuses as well. Morbid curiousity I guess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't find my cat videos. I think my five MIAA A Conference championship and multiple college AA certificates are obscuring my view. Or maybe all of the high level lacrosse awards my sons have won. Haha

Despite all of that, you find yourself on the 2022 forums on BOTC like the rest of us.

I like to watch the freak show at circuses as well. Morbid curiousity I guess.

We all like to live in the past... sigh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't find my cat videos. I think my five MIAA A Conference championship and multiple college AA certificates are obscuring my view. Or maybe all of the high level lacrosse awards my sons have won. Haha

Despite all of that, you find yourself on the 2022 forums on BOTC like the rest of us.

That is funny!!!

Naptown National Challenge just added a 2022 division. I wonder if they will play in the Stadium and be on TV as well. That'd be really cool.

No 2022 will not. Only 2021 and above this year.

2022 Championship in Maryland along with the Naptown should be a pretty good July for this age group.

2022 Championship already has 15 teams supporting it. Nap town should draw the same support.

Anyone know the cost of NAPTOWN shoot out?

Hawks are irrelevant. Always have been. That's why their best 3-4 kids leave every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know the cost of NAPTOWN shoot out?

5K

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are irrelevant. Always have been. That's why their best 3-4 kids leave every year.

This is a 2022 forum, so I would say that the Hawks are relevant. What would you call a team that outscored the Crabs by 23 in indoor?

What clubs are taking teams to the WSYL qualifier in April?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are irrelevant. Always have been. That's why their best 3-4 kids leave every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are irrelevant. Always have been. That's why their best 3-4 kids leave every year.

Irrelevant in what way. They are an original club team with terrific highly qualified coaches and top notch teams at every level.
They also. 75% of their 2017, 2018 teams committed to a college so far this fall.
Get that bitter taste out your mouth .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are irrelevant. Always have been. That's why their best 3-4 kids leave every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are irrelevant. Always have been. That's why their best 3-4 kids leave every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are irrelevant. Always have been. That's why their best 3-4 kids leave every year.

You better hope their top 3-4 leave this team or it will be along 3-4 years for you and your boy! Lmao

Double holdback vs holdback

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know the cost of NAPTOWN shoot out?

5K

5k for the 2021 and above. Those teams that will be on Tv. Younger teams are treated just a like a regular tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2022 Championship in Maryland along with the Naptown should be a pretty good July for this age group.

2022 Championship already has 15 teams supporting it. Nap town should draw the same support.

What 15 teams are already in the millon tournament? Only 16 being invited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2022 Championship in Maryland along with the Naptown should be a pretty good July for this age group.

2022 Championship already has 15 teams supporting it. Nap town should draw the same support.

What 15 teams are already in the millon tournament? Only 16 being invited.

Who are the 16? Thought you had to qualify and submit a resume to the tournament committee to get in.

Will the Naptown tourney be as prestigious as the Million 2022 championship or Young Guns?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the Naptown tourney be as prestigious as the Million 2022 championship or Young Guns?

Do you not realize how stupid that sounds? Are any lacrosse tournaments prestigious? It will look the same on your sons resume when he tries to get a job and on his college application.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the Naptown tourney be as prestigious as the Million 2022 championship or Young Guns?

LOL, looks like its your first trip on the Merry Go Round Rook. If your son is tall and fast and has a good lacrosse IQ he will get recruited early. Otherwise, wait in line with everyone else. Prestigious, Ha, the only thing prestigious about a lacrosse tournament is the check the organizer is taking home.

You're better off taking your hard earned cash and investing it in an SAT tutor than worrying about prestigious lacrosse tournaments for 7th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2022 Championship in Maryland along with the Naptown should be a pretty good July for this age group.

2022 Championship already has 15 teams supporting it. Nap town should draw the same support.

What 15 teams are already in the millon tournament? Only 16 being invited.

Who are the 16? Thought you had to qualify and submit a resume to the tournament committee to get in.

The web site shows teams that are in support and or are invited. Maybe the site just has you is interested . But all the clubs are the top teams from VA, MD,NY,NJ,CONN, and a few other states.

LOL at Hawks dads bragging about an indoor game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the Naptown tourney be as prestigious as the Million 2022 championship or Young Guns?

Do you not realize how stupid that sounds? Are any lacrosse tournaments prestigious? It will look the same on your sons resume when he tries to get a job and on his college application.

So you're saying winning a tournament full of rec & B teams in the local tourney is just as prestigious as winning a tournament against club teams from around the country? Who sounds stupid? I've got a participation trophy for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL at Hawks dads bragging about an indoor game.

Who posted this?

Crabs are bigger and faster and are a mixed group of kids from different Crab teams. They should easily win this game and the league.

I was pretty impressed with the Naptown Classic last year. I hope my sons team plays in it again.

Crabs lost an indoor game where skill trumps size/age. No surprise there....

Crabs play Hawks again the week schedule is imbalance. Hawks will beat them again and again and again. Indoor outdoor does not matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL at Hawks dads bragging about an indoor game.

Who posted this?

Crabs are bigger and faster and are a mixed group of kids from different Crab teams. They should easily win this game and the league.

Funny how people on here assume that its the Hawks or Crab parents boosting or running their mouths. My bet is its someone from a completely different team that is just out to hate. This is an anonymous site where some of these threads are 1 person doing the entire thread! Too funny ..
Again don't be so naive when someone spews something about a team. most likely that person has no affiliation with that team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are irrelevant. Always have been. That's why their best 3-4 kids leave every year.

This is a 2022 forum, so I would say that the Hawks are relevant. What would you call a team that outscored the Crabs by 23 in indoor?

Seal Clubbers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL at Hawks dads bragging about an indoor game.

Who posted this?

Crabs are bigger and faster and are a mixed group of kids from different Crab teams. They should easily win this game and the league.

Funny how people on here assume that its the Hawks or Crab parents boosting or running their mouths. My bet is its someone from a completely different team that is just out to hate. This is an anonymous site where some of these threads are 1 person doing the entire thread! Too funny ..
Again don't be so naive when someone spews something about a team. most likely that person has no affiliation with that team.

Don't be so naive to think that there aren't a few parents from every team on here willing to spew garbage. You're on here, aren't you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the Naptown tourney be as prestigious as the Million 2022 championship or Young Guns?

Do you not realize how stupid that sounds? Are any lacrosse tournaments prestigious? It will look the same on your sons resume when he tries to get a job and on his college application.

So you're saying winning a tournament full of rec & B teams in the local tourney is just as prestigious as winning a tournament against club teams from around the country? Who sounds stupid? I've got a participation trophy for you.

My sons have won plenty of tournaments. But to label any of them as prestigious is just silly and you sound like a child.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the Naptown tourney be as prestigious as the Million 2022 championship or Young Guns?

Do you not realize how stupid that sounds? Are any lacrosse tournaments prestigious? It will look the same on your sons resume when he tries to get a job and on his college application.

So you're saying winning a tournament full of rec & B teams in the local tourney is just as prestigious as winning a tournament against club teams from around the country? Who sounds stupid? I've got a participation trophy for you.

My sons have won plenty of tournaments. But to label any of them as prestigious is just silly and you sound like a child.

Yes, all tournaments are equal. All trophies take the same effort to win. Why compare any tournament to another? You are just wasting your time and money. We'll all be dead in 100 years and no one will care.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL at Hawks dads bragging about an indoor game.

Who posted this?

Crabs are bigger and faster and are a mixed group of kids from different Crab teams. They should easily win this game and the league.

Funny how people on here assume that its the Hawks or Crab parents boosting or running their mouths. My bet is its someone from a completely different team that is just out to hate. This is an anonymous site where some of these threads are 1 person doing the entire thread! Too funny ..
Again don't be so naive when someone spews something about a team. most likely that person has no affiliation with that team.

Don't be so naive to think that there aren't a few parents from every team on here willing to spew garbage. You're on here, aren't you?

Yes you are correct , I am the one who posted this. Of course thats true but so is my statement. Certainly not naive just careful to believe crap from an anonymous source that is full of negativity about a club.

MLE and youthlaxchampionship.com is excited to announce our partial field for the 2022 National Championship. Committed teams include: LI Express, Annapolis Hawks, Team Carolina, Igloo, Mad Lax, Diamondbacks, BBL Elite, Team 91 Maryland, Team 91 Long Island, Team Superstar (Westchester, NY) Triad Elite (NC) CT Chargers, Bethesda LC, and LI Outlaws 2022.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MLE and youthlaxchampionship.com is excited to announce our partial field for the 2022 National Championship. Committed teams include: LI Express, Annapolis Hawks, Team Carolina, Igloo, Mad Lax, Diamondbacks, BBL Elite, Team 91 Maryland, Team 91 Long Island, Team Superstar (Westchester, NY) Triad Elite (NC) CT Chargers, Bethesda LC, and LI Outlaws 2022.

Is this a Local, Regional, National or World Championship for 7th graders??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MLE and youthlaxchampionship.com is excited to announce our partial field for the 2022 National Championship. Committed teams include: LI Express, Annapolis Hawks, Team Carolina, Igloo, Mad Lax, Diamondbacks, BBL Elite, Team 91 Maryland, Team 91 Long Island, Team Superstar (Westchester, NY) Triad Elite (NC) CT Chargers, Bethesda LC, and LI Outlaws 2022.

Is this a Local, Regional, National or World Championship for 7th graders??

Universal!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MLE and youthlaxchampionship.com is excited to announce our partial field for the 2022 National Championship. Committed teams include: LI Express, Annapolis Hawks, Team Carolina, Igloo, Mad Lax, Diamondbacks, BBL Elite, Team 91 Maryland, Team 91 Long Island, Team Superstar (Westchester, NY) Triad Elite (NC) CT Chargers, Bethesda LC, and LI Outlaws 2022.

Wow - that may be the toughest lineup of 2022s you'll see all summer.

Anybody get any E-mails from the brine legacy tryouts from last Sunday?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MLE and youthlaxchampionship.com is excited to announce our partial field for the 2022 National Championship. Committed teams include: LI Express, Annapolis Hawks, Team Carolina, Igloo, Mad Lax, Diamondbacks, BBL Elite, Team 91 Maryland, Team 91 Long Island, Team Superstar (Westchester, NY) Triad Elite (NC) CT Chargers, Bethesda LC, and LI Outlaws 2022.

Wow - that may be the toughest lineup of 2022s you'll see all summer.

yes very good teams , hope the Crabs decide to get in on the fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody get any E-mails from the brine legacy tryouts from last Sunday?

Are you talking about the Duke's tryouts or the Brine tryouts? They both have been fund raising recently.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MLE and youthlaxchampionship.com is excited to announce our partial field for the 2022 National Championship. Committed teams include: LI Express, Annapolis Hawks, Team Carolina, Igloo, Mad Lax, Diamondbacks, BBL Elite, Team 91 Maryland, Team 91 Long Island, Team Superstar (Westchester, NY) Triad Elite (NC) CT Chargers, Bethesda LC, and LI Outlaws 2022.

Wow - that may be the toughest lineup of 2022s you'll see all summer.

yes very good teams , hope the Crabs decide to get in on the fun.

Crabs not a top 16 team should not be invited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MLE and youthlaxchampionship.com is excited to announce our partial field for the 2022 National Championship. Committed teams include: LI Express, Annapolis Hawks, Team Carolina, Igloo, Mad Lax, Diamondbacks, BBL Elite, Team 91 Maryland, Team 91 Long Island, Team Superstar (Westchester, NY) Triad Elite (NC) CT Chargers, Bethesda LC, and LI Outlaws 2022.

Competition for WSYL.

I think WSYL in particular, though, misses one thing about the Little League World Series that makes it so great. In the LLWS, teams are all star teams that come out of town leagues. So it would be like if all these lacrosse kids still played rec in their little home leagues and came together as all star teams after their regular season. That feels more organic, like there's more local interest, and more joy in the kids.

Club lacrosse teams are basically year-round entities. Yeah, the level of play might be better than assembling basically the best of a town league's rec players, but it feels a little manufactured.

Doesn't seem like this new tournament is going to be any different. But it will be on the east coast, and there are probably teams that wouldn't have traveled to Denver that will play in this tournament. And there's the added benefit of not having to break up a team that played together the rest of the year because of holdbacks. So as far as tournament "quality" this might be better than WSYL.

As far as the committed teams, though, RR and Bethesda didn't even finish in the top half of their spring league last year. Do you really think they're two of the sixteen best teams in the country? They said they're only taking 16, and they've already got 15. So there's only one team out there that's at least as good as those two that hasn't applied yet?

I guess as I look more closely, their WWW site says registration closed 12/1. But there's still an application link, so I'd bet they'd still take teams. If two or three teams come along that are better than those two, are they now locked in to taking them?

Yes, it was the brine I was referring to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As far as the committed teams, though, RR and Bethesda didn't even finish in the top half of their spring league last year. Do you really think they're two of the sixteen best teams in the country? They said they're only taking 16, and they've already got 15. So there's only one team out there that's at least as good as those two that hasn't applied yet?

I guess as I look more closely, their WWW site says registration closed 12/1. But there's still an application link, so I'd bet they'd still take teams. If two or three teams come along that are better than those two, are they now locked in to taking them?

Bethesda beat Diamondbacks and both 91 NY teams at elite 8 last year and made finals. RR beat Hawks to make finals of St. Paul's league. Neither team is in the top tier of this field, but not at the bottom either. Looks like they took whoever applied. Ever heard of Triad Elite or Superstar?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bethesda beat Diamondbacks and both 91 NY teams at elite 8 last year and made finals. RR beat Hawks to make finals of St. Paul's league. Neither team is in the top tier of this field, but not at the bottom either.

Fair enough, I guess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ever heard of Triad Elite or Superstar?

Triad Elite is out of NC, I think the Greensboro area. Not exactly a hotbed, but a few really good high school teams.

Superstar I've seen at a few box lacrosse events, but not really familiar with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They said they're only taking 16, and they've already got 15. So there's only one team out there that's at least as good as those two that hasn't applied yet?

What quality teams are missing? FCA and Crabs are two Maryland teams that belong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As far as the committed teams, though, RR and Bethesda didn't even finish in the top half of their spring league last year. Do you really think they're two of the sixteen best teams in the country? They said they're only taking 16, and they've already got 15. So there's only one team out there that's at least as good as those two that hasn't applied yet?

I guess as I look more closely, their WWW site says registration closed 12/1. But there's still an application link, so I'd bet they'd still take teams. If two or three teams come along that are better than those two, are they now locked in to taking them?

Bethesda beat Diamondbacks and both 91 NY teams at elite 8 last year and made finals. RR beat Hawks to make finals of St. Paul's league. Neither team is in the top tier of this field, but not at the bottom either. Looks like they took whoever applied. Ever heard of Triad Elite or Superstar?

The Bethesda team at Elite 8 was not the real team. They had more guest players than actual BLC players.

Absolutely incorrect, BLC added 1 boy for Elite 8 who was new to program. Team finally got there goalie back, who had a broken armand missed HOCO. Goalies still matter boys in addition to FOGO's!...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They said they're only taking 16, and they've already got 15. So there's only one team out there that's at least as good as those two that hasn't applied yet?

What quality teams are missing? FCA and Crabs are two Maryland teams that belong.

Crabs the same teamthat just lost by 20 plus to Hawks.

What about Cannons? They had some quality wins last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolutely incorrect, BLC added 1 boy for Elite 8 who was new to program. Team finally got there goalie back, who had a broken armand missed HOCO. Goalies still matter boys in addition to FOGO's!...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolutely incorrect, BLC added 1 boy for Elite 8 who was new to program. Team finally got there goalie back, who had a broken armand missed HOCO. Goalies still matter boys in addition to FOGO's!...

BLC BROUGHT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TEAM TO ELITE 8 !!
with out a doubt, they got blown out in the spring league and at NLF . but they some how beat almost everyone at the Elite 8. Teams and coaches that face that team several times a year now the truth.

BLC went 4-0-1 at NLF, Tied team 91 NY - same EXACT team as Elite 8 (Beat Crabs/Laxachussets/HHH). facts are facts. You can Capitalize words all you want, your FACTS are still incorrect, which would qualify you as.......IGNORANT.

In any case HOCO 2022 is as solid a youth lax league as their is in the country with lots of talented teams, players, and coaches. Going to be a fun year. Keep it classy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BLC went 4-0-1 at NLF, Tied team 91 NY - same EXACT team as Elite 8 (Beat Crabs/Laxachussets/HHH). facts are facts. You can Capitalize words all you want, your FACTS are still incorrect, which would qualify you as.......IGNORANT.

In any case HOCO 2022 is as solid a youth lax league as their is in the country with lots of talented teams, players, and coaches. Going to be a fun year. Keep it classy

You're right. The team at NLF was pretty much the same as Elite 8. However, this was not the team that played in HOCO or in other tournaments last summer. There were so many different helmets on those kids at NLF and E8 it looked like a pack of skittles. Stop making crap up. You know damn well that those two teams were not full of actual BLC kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow - what happened to the MMILL?

It used to be a great winter indoor league.

This year only 3 teams (3!) are playing in the 2022 club division - sidewinders, zingos, and wild.

My guess is clubs got tired of the weak reffing that was allowing so many kids to get hurt. The two year age groups had older kids beating up on the younger ones and the refs consistently did nothing to stop it.

Mr ignorant, it's called non-for-profit lacrosse. Bethesda has never required kids to spend money on the same helmets, gloves, etc. They actually spend budget dollars on training. If you have ever played a BLC team, you would recognize that. Go ask the same coaches you reference. Core of Kids have played together for years. Class group of kids and families. Enjoy your holiday and try not to be such a Scrooge. If it makes you feel better to throw our propaganda, keep on firing. Ignorance is bliss

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mr ignorant, it's called non-for-profit lacrosse. Bethesda has never required kids to spend money on the same helmets, gloves, etc. They actually spend budget dollars on training. If you have ever played a BLC team, you would recognize that. Go ask the same coaches you reference. Core of Kids have played together for years. Class group of kids and families. Enjoy your holiday and try not to be such a Scrooge. If it makes you feel better to throw our propaganda, keep on firing. Ignorance is bliss

Their 2021 BLC team is just as bad. Line up is never the same (probably moving kids to 2022 when no conflicts)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mr ignorant, it's called non-for-profit lacrosse. Bethesda has never required kids to spend money on the same helmets, gloves, etc. They actually spend budget dollars on training. If you have ever played a BLC team, you would recognize that. Go ask the same coaches you reference. Core of Kids have played together for years. Class group of kids and families. Enjoy your holiday and try not to be such a Scrooge. If it makes you feel better to throw our propaganda, keep on firing. Ignorance is bliss

I'm not ignorant at all. Unless those kids were changing helmets, and skin color, between games, there were some kids at the NLF and E8 that weren't there any other times. Everyone knows it. Stop trying to deny it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mr ignorant, it's called non-for-profit lacrosse. Bethesda has never required kids to spend money on the same helmets, gloves, etc. They actually spend budget dollars on training. If you have ever played a BLC team, you would recognize that. Go ask the same coaches you reference. Core of Kids have played together for years. Class group of kids and families. Enjoy your holiday and try not to be such a Scrooge. If it makes you feel better to throw our propaganda, keep on firing. Ignorance is bliss

I'm not ignorant at all. Unless those kids were changing helmets, and skin color, between games, there were some kids at the NLF and E8 that weren't there any other times. Everyone knows it. Stop trying to deny it.

The Crabs are non-profit also, so you are in good company.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mr ignorant, it's called non-for-profit lacrosse. Bethesda has never required kids to spend money on the same helmets, gloves, etc. They actually spend budget dollars on training. If you have ever played a BLC team, you would recognize that. Go ask the same coaches you reference. Core of Kids have played together for years. Class group of kids and families. Enjoy your holiday and try not to be such a Scrooge. If it makes you feel better to throw our propaganda, keep on firing. Ignorance is bliss

I'm not ignorant at all. Unless those kids were changing helmets, and skin color, between games, there were some kids at the NLF and E8 that weren't there any other times. Everyone knows it. Stop trying to deny it.

The Crabs are non-profit also, so you are in good company.

In many of these so called Non profit sports clubs , it only means one thing...That owner/Director pays himself whatever he wants to not make a profit.

On the first day of X-mas I hope your true love brings you to the Optomotirst as I believe you may be color blind. IF you are referring to fine young man who is a FOGO, he has played on the team since 1st grade. Kids miss HOCO games for multi-sport commitments/injury/ or common colds. Is what it is.

Unfortunately, I believe your true love may have a tougher time locating a doctor that can cure your ignorance. Again, keeping it classy, so I wish you continued Bliss with your ignorance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On the first day of X-mas I hope your true love brings you to the Optomotirst as I believe you may be color blind. IF you are referring to fine young man who is a FOGO, he has played on the team since 1st grade. Kids miss HOCO games for multi-sport commitments/injury/ or common colds. Is what it is.

Unfortunately, I believe your true love may have a tougher time locating a doctor that can cure your ignorance. Again, keeping it classy, so I wish you continued Bliss with your ignorance.

that was completely wack and lame, just like all the other statements made defending BLC teams last year. The team that played in summer tournaments was not the same that played in fall,winter or spring. It is a known fact ! Period. There is no need for arguments on your behalf. It only makes you look stupid.

Hawks beat crabs again in box. With all the Hawks holdbacks players their 2022 team maybe older than the Hawks 2021 team.

I agree that sitting around and talking about which tournament is 'more' prestigious than another is plain ridiculous. Our kids would say that the more impressive is the one they just won or came close to winning. So, yes, as far as they are concerned every tournament is equally prestigious. Having made this comment, however, I do not think that all tournaments are made equal. Some tournaments have B teams play against AA teams, and I believe that this is not a good thing.

When the talent level at a tournament is relatively equal, teams reaching the final will have to run a far more difficult gauntlet before reaching the finals than they would in mixed skill level events. When rec league teams wind up haveing to play club teams at Beach Lax, it is usually down right unfair and results in an easy win for the club squad. In an AA bracket at Summer Exposure you can be sure that each win will be earned. This would not be the same thing if, say, Crabs when to Beach Lax and dominated some rec or club B team on the way to a title.

Food for thoughtz

Anyone know of any Goalie clinics

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks beat crabs again in box. With all the Hawks holdbacks players their 2022 team maybe older than the Hawks 2021 team.

Maybe they are just better than the Crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know of any Goalie clinics

reach out to your club director. hopefully he will have contacts for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks beat crabs again in box. With all the Hawks holdbacks players their 2022 team maybe older than the Hawks 2021 team.

Did you type this in your car before you left the parking lot. The game was over at 8:45 and you post this at 8:53..Creepy..
And if you were there the Hawk team was a much smaller team than both teams they played tonight. They are a very good team . Holdback excuses is really sad especially coming from a creep. And everyone knows that Crab team is full of holdbacks .Good luck creep the rest of the year when playing teams in MD.
BY the way the Looney team was very good tonight in the loss.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks beat crabs again in box. With all the Hawks holdbacks players their 2022 team maybe older than the Hawks 2021 team.

Very misinformed. Hawks have 4 holdbacks and Crabs have 8.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree that sitting around and talking about which tournament is 'more' prestigious than another is plain ridiculous. Our kids would say that the more impressive is the one they just won or came close to winning. So, yes, as far as they are concerned every tournament is equally prestigious. Having made this comment, however, I do not think that all tournaments are made equal. Some tournaments have B teams play against AA teams, and I believe that this is not a good thing.

When the talent level at a tournament is relatively equal, teams reaching the final will have to run a far more difficult gauntlet before reaching the finals than they would in mixed skill level events. When rec league teams wind up haveing to play club teams at Beach Lax, it is usually down right unfair and results in an easy win for the club squad. In an AA bracket at Summer Exposure you can be sure that each win will be earned. This would not be the same thing if, say, Crabs when to Beach Lax and dominated some rec or club B team on the way to a title.

Food for thoughtz

The most prestigious tournament trophy is the one with the best teams in the country participating. It is the hardest one to win. There are only a couple tournaments a year that are able to draw the majority of the country's top teams. NLF, Millon Great 8, and Young Guns were definitely 3 of the top ones last year. We'll see who can draw them together this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks beat crabs again in box. With all the Hawks holdbacks players their 2022 team maybe older than the Hawks 2021 team.

Very misinformed. Hawks have 4 holdbacks and Crabs have 8.

What an embarrassment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks beat crabs again in box. With all the Hawks holdbacks players their 2022 team maybe older than the Hawks 2021 team.

Maybe they are just better than the Crabs.

Crabs were short handed and they were in this game and made a run at it at the end. Both teams very good. Fun game to watch

What year is the hawks "2022" goalie who played the last 2 weeks really in? Very doubtful he is really 2022

Hawks have 2 of the youngest players at 2022. They also are the best 2 goalies in the state at 2022.

Don't start running your mouth about a particular player unless you are putting your name to it too. Stick around after a game and meet the young kid . Find out for yourself instead of coming on here trying to sell a kid out..Jerk Off

Best goalie not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best goalie not so much.

Then who is?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best goalie not so much.

Then who is?

That rough rider goalie is really good.

There are a lot of good goalies at this age. FCA and Crabs have fantastic starting goalies. Crabs starting goalie is not playing indoor

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a lot of good goalies at this age. FCA and Crabs have fantastic starting goalies. Crabs starting goalie is not playing indoor

Well, if there are a lot of good goalies at this age why do feel compelled to single out only FCA and Crabs??? something stinks, and it could be the poster.

What about the Roughriders and Hawks goalies? You consider them weaker than FCA and Crabs? Don't think so. Stop being so bias.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a lot of good goalies at this age. FCA and Crabs have fantastic starting goalies. Crabs starting goalie is not playing indoor

Well, if there are a lot of good goalies at this age why do feel compelled to single out only FCA and Crabs??? something stinks, and it could be the poster.

What about the Roughriders and Hawks goalies? You consider them weaker than FCA and Crabs? Don't think so. Stop being so bias.

Look jackass, the Hawks and Roughriders had already been mentioned. My point was, as I wrote, that there are a lot of good goalies, not just the ones that had already been mentioned.

Something stinks alright. Ugh.

Does this grad year have better goalies than 2021? Any thoughts? If so, does it have to do with kids being better athletes, started earlier, better coaching etc...do clubs provide goalie coaches at this age?

I think it's more of a function of there being several more kids in the 2022 class. It's a deeper pool of kids (modern day baby boom). My son had something 4+ classes of kids in his own grade at his elementary school every year he was in elementary school because there were so many 2022 kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does this grad year have better goalies than 2021? Any thoughts? If so, does it have to do with kids being better athletes, started earlier, better coaching etc...do clubs provide goalie coaches at this age?

Every parent focused on their own kid thinks their class is more talented for some reason. Most club provide supplemental training for goalies and face-off kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a lot of good goalies at this age. FCA and Crabs have fantastic starting goalies. Crabs starting goalie is not playing indoor

Well, if there are a lot of good goalies at this age why do feel compelled to single out only FCA and Crabs??? something stinks, and it could be the poster.

What about the Roughriders and Hawks goalies? You consider them weaker than FCA and Crabs? Don't think so. Stop being so bias.

Look jackass, the Hawks and Roughriders had already been mentioned. My point was, as I wrote, that there are a lot of good goalies, not just the ones that had already been mentioned.

Something stinks alright. Ugh.

Sure does pecker breath, and it seems like its you. RR and Hawks goalies mentioned in passing in previous posts, you made it a point to emphasize FCA and Crabs goalies. You have an agenda and we don't want to see it or hear it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a lot of good goalies at this age. FCA and Crabs have fantastic starting goalies. Crabs starting goalie is not playing indoor

Well, if there are a lot of good goalies at this age why do feel compelled to single out only FCA and Crabs??? something stinks, and it could be the poster.

What about the Roughriders and Hawks goalies? You consider them weaker than FCA and Crabs? Don't think so. Stop being so bias.

Look jackass, the Hawks and Roughriders had already been mentioned. My point was, as I wrote, that there are a lot of good goalies, not just the ones that had already been mentioned.

Something stinks alright. Ugh.

Sure does pecker breath, and it seems like its you. RR and Hawks goalies mentioned in passing in previous posts, you made it a point to emphasize FCA and Crabs goalies. You have an agenda and we don't want to see it or hear it.

Then don't read it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a lot of good goalies at this age. FCA and Crabs have fantastic starting goalies. Crabs starting goalie is not playing indoor

Well, if there are a lot of good goalies at this age why do feel compelled to single out only FCA and Crabs??? something stinks, and it could be the poster.

What about the Roughriders and Hawks goalies? You consider them weaker than FCA and Crabs? Don't think so. Stop being so bias.

Look jackass, the Hawks and Roughriders had already been mentioned. My point was, as I wrote, that there are a lot of good goalies, not just the ones that had already been mentioned.

Something stinks alright. Ugh.

Sure does pecker breath, and it seems like its you. RR and Hawks goalies mentioned in passing in previous posts, you made it a point to emphasize FCA and Crabs goalies. You have an agenda and we don't want to see it or hear it.

Then don't read it.

Trust me, we won't, but why waste space and bandwidth with your dribble driven agenda. Stop being bias about 12 year old kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does this grad year have better goalies than 2021? Any thoughts? If so, does it have to do with kids being better athletes, started earlier, better coaching etc...do clubs provide goalie coaches at this age?

I have a son on a 2021, 2022, and 2023 team. I think 2022 overall is the best goalie class. Seems all the top clubs have really strong goalie play. Some are 2 deep. 2021 has some really good ones on the top end, but not the depth of the 22s. 2023 has 2-3 really good ones then a huge drop off.

This age group has really good goalies all around. They are very important to the big games and are often the deciding factors in games. Same could be said about the terrific face off kids in this age group. A lot of parity in those positions . Fun to watch .

To the other thread with the jack [lacrosse] trying to call out a specific goalie is shameful and classless. There is so many positive things about this class of players and the talent level. Resorting to those tactics to make you and your kid fell better is really sad . Next time put your name to a post like that when calling out a child.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This age group has really good goalies all around. They are very important to the big games and are often the deciding factors in games. Same could be said about the terrific face off kids in this age group. A lot of parity in those positions . Fun to watch .

To the other thread with the jack [lacrosse] trying to call out a specific goalie is shameful and classless. There is so many positive things about this class of players and the talent level. Resorting to those tactics to make you and your kid fell better is really sad . Next time put your name to a post like that when calling out a child.

Where was a kid called out? It was mentioned that the goalies for Hawks, RR, Crabs and FCA were all very good. For some reason that really upset someone who felt there was an agenda.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This age group has really good goalies all around. They are very important to the big games and are often the deciding factors in games. Same could be said about the terrific face off kids in this age group. A lot of parity in those positions . Fun to watch .

To the other thread with the jack [lacrosse] trying to call out a specific goalie is shameful and classless. There is so many positive things about this class of players and the talent level. Resorting to those tactics to make you and your kid fell better is really sad . Next time put your name to a post like that when calling out a child.

Where was a kid called out? It was mentioned that the goalies for Hawks, RR, Crabs and FCA were all very good. For some reason that really upset someone who felt there was an agenda.

You missed where someone was questioning the age of the Hawks goalie playing indoor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This age group has really good goalies all around. They are very important to the big games and are often the deciding factors in games. Same could be said about the terrific face off kids in this age group. A lot of parity in those positions . Fun to watch .

To the other thread with the jack [lacrosse] trying to call out a specific goalie is shameful and classless. There is so many positive things about this class of players and the talent level. Resorting to those tactics to make you and your kid fell better is really sad . Next time put your name to a post like that when calling out a child.

Where was a kid called out? It was mentioned that the goalies for Hawks, RR, Crabs and FCA were all very good. For some reason that really upset someone who felt there was an agenda.

You missed where someone was questioning the age of the Hawks goalie playing indoor.

I agree...Just because he had a full beard and driving is no excuse to think he is too old to play 2022. Some kids start earlier than others. Lets keep it real people!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This age group has really good goalies all around. They are very important to the big games and are often the deciding factors in games. Same could be said about the terrific face off kids in this age group. A lot of parity in those positions . Fun to watch .

To the other thread with the jack [lacrosse] trying to call out a specific goalie is shameful and classless. There is so many positive things about this class of players and the talent level. Resorting to those tactics to make you and your kid fell better is really sad . Next time put your name to a post like that when calling out a child.

Where was a kid called out? It was mentioned that the goalies for Hawks, RR, Crabs and FCA were all very good. For some reason that really upset someone who felt there was an agenda.

You missed where someone was questioning the age of the Hawks goalie playing indoor.

I agree...Just because he had a full beard and driving is no excuse to think he is too old to play 2022. Some kids start earlier than others. Lets keep it real people!

ZING

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This age group has really good goalies all around. They are very important to the big games and are often the deciding factors in games. Same could be said about the terrific face off kids in this age group. A lot of parity in those positions . Fun to watch .

To the other thread with the jack [lacrosse] trying to call out a specific goalie is shameful and classless. There is so many positive things about this class of players and the talent level. Resorting to those tactics to make you and your kid fell better is really sad . Next time put your name to a post like that when calling out a child.

Where was a kid called out? It was mentioned that the goalies for Hawks, RR, Crabs and FCA were all very good. For some reason that really upset someone who felt there was an agenda.

You missed where someone was questioning the age of the Hawks goalie playing indoor.

I agree...Just because he had a full beard and driving is no excuse to think he is too old to play 2022. Some kids start earlier than others. Lets keep it real people!

ZING

That goalie might be the youngest goalie on any 2022 team. But because he is good (and your son's team lost) you want to start rumors about a 12 year old kid. Despicable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This age group has really good goalies all around. They are very important to the big games and are often the deciding factors in games. Same could be said about the terrific face off kids in this age group. A lot of parity in those positions . Fun to watch .

To the other thread with the jack [lacrosse] trying to call out a specific goalie is shameful and classless. There is so many positive things about this class of players and the talent level. Resorting to those tactics to make you and your kid fell better is really sad . Next time put your name to a post like that when calling out a child.

Where was a kid called out? It was mentioned that the goalies for Hawks, RR, Crabs and FCA were all very good. For some reason that really upset someone who felt there was an agenda.

You missed where someone was questioning the age of the Hawks goalie playing indoor.

I agree...Just because he had a full beard and driving is no excuse to think he is too old to play 2022. Some kids start earlier than others. Lets keep it real people!

ZING

That goalie might be the youngest goalie on any 2022 team. But because he is good (and your son's team lost) you want to start rumors about a 12 year old kid. Despicable.

Can't hide the manhood. Oh wait, yes you can, in an anonymous forum, but not on a field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This age group has really good goalies all around. They are very important to the big games and are often the deciding factors in games. Same could be said about the terrific face off kids in this age group. A lot of parity in those positions . Fun to watch .

To the other thread with the jack [lacrosse] trying to call out a specific goalie is shameful and classless. There is so many positive things about this class of players and the talent level. Resorting to those tactics to make you and your kid fell better is really sad . Next time put your name to a post like that when calling out a child.

Where was a kid called out? It was mentioned that the goalies for Hawks, RR, Crabs and FCA were all very good. For some reason that really upset someone who felt there was an agenda.

You missed where someone was questioning the age of the Hawks goalie playing indoor.

I agree...Just because he had a full beard and driving is no excuse to think he is too old to play 2022. Some kids start earlier than others. Lets keep it real people!

You describing the goalie or your ugly wife? Go back to your ugly wife, small house and unathletic kid!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This age group has really good goalies all around. They are very important to the big games and are often the deciding factors in games. Same could be said about the terrific face off kids in this age group. A lot of parity in those positions . Fun to watch .

To the other thread with the jack [lacrosse] trying to call out a specific goalie is shameful and classless. There is so many positive things about this class of players and the talent level. Resorting to those tactics to make you and your kid fell better is really sad . Next time put your name to a post like that when calling out a child.

Where was a kid called out? It was mentioned that the goalies for Hawks, RR, Crabs and FCA were all very good. For some reason that really upset someone who felt there was an agenda.

You missed where someone was questioning the age of the Hawks goalie playing indoor.

I agree...Just because he had a full beard and driving is no excuse to think he is too old to play 2022. Some kids start earlier than others. Lets keep it real people!

You describing the goalie or your ugly wife? Go back to your ugly wife, small house and unathletic kid!

Ouch!!! If you combined Rosie O'Donnell with Jocelyn Wildenstein that would be that beauty I call my wife!! my McMansion is at least 750 sq ft maybe 775 and has one bathroom with running water, and my superstar lacrosse player manchild has been told that if he practices hard enough this year , he will be able to play on our local Club's Select C team, not the regular C team next year,,So there!!!

You Maryland parents are out of your mind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You Maryland parents are out of your mind.

Completely wrong, New [lacrosse] parents lead that parade by a very wide margin. If there was a super bowl for AH parents, New [lacrosse] wins by a landslide.

Just read your posts above MD parents. Sick

Goals results from today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Goals results from today?

Hawks
Crabs
Rough Riders

All win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just read your posts above MD parents. Sick

Did you post this from your purple Camero?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Goals results from today?

Hawks
Crabs
Rough Riders

All win.

Hawks and RoughRiders undefeated but don't play until last day of season.

You're just proving my point donkey. The way u MD parents speak to each other is like you're a bunch of dysfunctional children. Merry Christmas

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're just proving my point donkey. The way u MD parents speak to each other is like you're a bunch of dysfunctional children. Merry Christmas

But not quite to the level of NY parents, who are the worst. Go on the NY forums and see how the NY people speak to each other. Horrible and disrespectful, but you can continue to say it's Md. if that makes you happy in your little dream world. Don't worry, Santa will be here soon and all will be good. Ha.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're just proving my point donkey. The way u MD parents speak to each other is like you're a bunch of dysfunctional children. Merry Christmas

But not quite to the level of NY parents, who are the worst. Go on the NY forums and see how the NY people speak to each other. Horrible and disrespectful, but you can continue to say it's Md. if that makes you happy in your little dream world. Don't worry, Santa will be here soon and all will be good. Ha.

Why assume NY? Why not Texas, Florida, or NC? There are new hotbeds around the country that take down MD all the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're just proving my point donkey. The way u MD parents speak to each other is like you're a bunch of dysfunctional children. Merry Christmas

But not quite to the level of NY parents, who are the worst. Go on the NY forums and see how the NY people speak to each other. Horrible and disrespectful, but you can continue to say it's Md. if that makes you happy in your little dream world. Don't worry, Santa will be here soon and all will be good. Ha.

Why assume NY? Why not Texas, Florida, or NC? There are new hotbeds around the country that take down MD all the time.

All the time? What world are you living in?????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're just proving my point donkey. The way u MD parents speak to each other is like you're a bunch of dysfunctional children. Merry Christmas

But not quite to the level of NY parents, who are the worst. Go on the NY forums and see how the NY people speak to each other. Horrible and disrespectful, but you can continue to say it's Md. if that makes you happy in your little dream world. Don't worry, Santa will be here soon and all will be good. Ha.

Why assume NY? Why not Texas, Florida, or NC? There are new hotbeds around the country that take down MD all the time.

Sure, there are dumbasses in the new hotbeds too. Happy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're just proving my point donkey. The way u MD parents speak to each other is like you're a bunch of dysfunctional children. Merry Christmas

But not quite to the level of NY parents, who are the worst. Go on the NY forums and see how the NY people speak to each other. Horrible and disrespectful, but you can continue to say it's Md. if that makes you happy in your little dream world. Don't worry, Santa will be here soon and all will be good. Ha.

Why assume NY? Why not Texas, Florida, or NC? There are new hotbeds around the country that take down MD all the time.

Sure, there are dumbasses in the new hotbeds too. Happy?

Well I think what makes the new hotbeds parents the worst is they do not know the game and they still yell and act like fools and they sound twice as dumb as the loud MD parent. The loud MD parent at least has a correct point 85% of the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're just proving my point donkey. The way u MD parents speak to each other is like you're a bunch of dysfunctional children. Merry Christmas

But not quite to the level of NY parents, who are the worst. Go on the NY forums and see how the NY people speak to each other. Horrible and disrespectful, but you can continue to say it's Md. if that makes you happy in your little dream world. Don't worry, Santa will be here soon and all will be good. Ha.

Why assume NY? Why not Texas, Florida, or NC? There are new hotbeds around the country that take down MD all the time.

Sure, there are dumbasses in the new hotbeds too. Happy?

Well I think what makes the new hotbeds parents the worst is they do not know the game and they still yell and act like fools and they sound twice as dumb as the loud MD parent. The loud MD parent at least has a correct point 85% of the time.

As compared to the NY parent that has a correct point <50% of the time. Don't even go to how loud they are, it is way above an acceptable level.hwf

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're just proving my point donkey. The way u MD parents speak to each other is like you're a bunch of dysfunctional children. Merry Christmas

But not quite to the level of NY parents, who are the worst. Go on the NY forums and see how the NY people speak to each other. Horrible and disrespectful, but you can continue to say it's Md. if that makes you happy in your little dream world. Don't worry, Santa will be here soon and all will be good. Ha.

Why assume NY? Why not Texas, Florida, or NC? There are new hotbeds around the country that take down MD all the time.

All the time? What world are you living in?????

Real world. Not your MD augmented reality. Take off your HaloLens.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're just proving my point donkey. The way u MD parents speak to each other is like you're a bunch of dysfunctional children. Merry Christmas

But not quite to the level of NY parents, who are the worst. Go on the NY forums and see how the NY people speak to each other. Horrible and disrespectful, but you can continue to say it's Md. if that makes you happy in your little dream world. Don't worry, Santa will be here soon and all will be good. Ha.

Why assume NY? Why not Texas, Florida, or NC? There are new hotbeds around the country that take down MD all the time.

Honestly, I have not heard of a team from anywhere other than Long Island that has beaten any of top 2022 MD teams.

Crabs 2022 lost to Texas Mustangs and Palm Beach Revolution last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're just proving my point donkey. The way u MD parents speak to each other is like you're a bunch of dysfunctional children. Merry Christmas

But not quite to the level of NY parents, who are the worst. Go on the NY forums and see how the NY people speak to each other. Horrible and disrespectful, but you can continue to say it's Md. if that makes you happy in your little dream world. Don't worry, Santa will be here soon and all will be good. Ha.

Why assume NY? Why not Texas, Florida, or NC? There are new hotbeds around the country that take down MD all the time.

All the time? What world are you living in?????

Real world. Not your MD augmented reality. Take off your HaloLens.

Merry Christmas to you as well, LI trash.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2022 lost to Texas Mustangs and Palm Beach Revolution last year.

API lost to palm beach as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2022 lost to Texas Mustangs and Palm Beach Revolution last year.

I would not put Crabs 2022 on the list of top MD teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2022 lost to Texas Mustangs and Palm Beach Revolution last year.

I would not put Crabs 2022 on the list of top MD teams.

Then the list of top MD teams is not very deep.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2022 lost to Texas Mustangs and Palm Beach Revolution last year.

I would not put Crabs 2022 on the list of top MD teams.

Then the list of top MD teams is not very deep.

How should the list be then?

not very deep? What other state has 5+ teams that can roll with any team in the country.

Hawks
API
9+1
Bethesda
FCA
MadLax
Rough Riders
Crabs

list is in no particular order, but these teams are all very good and easily top teams in MD .
Even better is they face each other week after week in the Spring. No hiding from each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2022 lost to Texas Mustangs and Palm Beach Revolution last year.

API lost to palm beach as well.

Doesn't Mustangs and Revolution bring ALL STAR teams to summer tournaments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2022 lost to Texas Mustangs and Palm Beach Revolution last year.

API lost to palm beach as well.

Doesn't Mustangs and Revolution bring ALL STAR teams to summer tournaments?

Are you trying to imply the Crabs are not a All-star team. They pull from a 80 miles radius if not more. I would call that a ALL-Star team. Non hot bed area need to pull from a larger area to compete with a hot bed team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not very deep? What other state has 5+ teams that can roll with any team in the country.

Hawks
API
9+1
Bethesda
FCA
MadLax
Rough Riders
Crabs

list is in no particular order, but these teams are all very good and easily top teams in MD .
Even better is they face each other week after week in the Spring. No hiding from each other.

On one hand someone says Crabs doesn't belong on the list of top MD teams and on the other you put them on the list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2022 lost to Texas Mustangs and Palm Beach Revolution last year.

API lost to palm beach as well.

Doesn't Mustangs and Revolution bring ALL STAR teams to summer tournaments?

Are you trying to imply the Crabs are not a All-star team. They pull from a 80 miles radius if not more. I would call that a ALL-Star team. Non hot bed area need to pull from a larger area to compete with a hot bed team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2022 lost to Texas Mustangs and Palm Beach Revolution last year.

API lost to palm beach as well.

Doesn't Mustangs and Revolution bring ALL STAR teams to summer tournaments?

Are you trying to imply the Crabs are not a All-star team. They pull from a 80 miles radius if not more. I would call that a ALL-Star team. Non hot bed area need to pull from a larger area to compete with a hot bed team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2022 lost to Texas Mustangs and Palm Beach Revolution last year.

API lost to palm beach as well.

Doesn't Mustangs and Revolution bring ALL STAR teams to summer tournaments?

Are you trying to imply the Crabs are not a All-star team. They pull from a 80 miles radius if not more. I would call that a ALL-Star team. Non hot bed area need to pull from a larger area to compete with a hot bed team.

Thanks for clearing that up! And for making my point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2022 lost to Texas Mustangs and Palm Beach Revolution last year.

API lost to palm beach as well.

Doesn't Mustangs and Revolution bring ALL STAR teams to summer tournaments?

Are you trying to imply the Crabs are not a All-star team. They pull from a 80 miles radius if not more. I would call that a ALL-Star team. Non hot bed area need to pull from a larger area to compete with a hot bed team.

Implying that Crabs are a team that plays all year together.

Crabs teams of years past dominated at every tournament. Now most crab teams are average at best. The 2022 crabs team is below average even C team at best.

Wait til the Crabs 2021s suddenly become 2022s! Holdbacks rule!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs teams of years past dominated at every tournament. Now most crab teams are average at best. The 2022 crabs team is below average even C team at best.

My guess with a comment like that you have not watched them play much. To say they are a C level team is just bitter and silly. To say that about a team in the winter without seeing them play a real meaningful game with a new roster is even more silly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs teams of years past dominated at every tournament. Now most crab teams are average at best. The 2022 crabs team is below average even C team at best.

My guess with a comment like that you have not watched them play much. To say they are a C level team is just bitter and silly. To say that about a team in the winter without seeing them play a real meaningful game with a new roster is even more silly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs teams of years past dominated at every tournament. Now most crab teams are average at best. The 2022 crabs team is below average even C team at best.

They went 5-1 in Hoco AA last spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs teams of years past dominated at every tournament. Now most crab teams are average at best. The 2022 crabs team is below average even C team at best.

My guess with a comment like that you have not watched them play much. To say they are a C level team is just bitter and silly. To say that about a team in the winter without seeing them play a real meaningful game with a new roster is even more silly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs teams of years past dominated at every tournament. Now most crab teams are average at best. The 2022 crabs team is below average even C team at best.

They went 5-1 in Hoco AA last spring.

Thanks to an extremely advantageous schedule. How many of those Ws came against teams with winning records?

Crabs bounced from playoffs easily by 5th seed in 1st round.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs teams of years past dominated at every tournament. Now most crab teams are average at best. The 2022 crabs team is below average even C team at best.

My guess with a comment like that you have not watched them play much. To say they are a C level team is just bitter and silly. To say that about a team in the winter without seeing them play a real meaningful game with a new roster is even more silly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs teams of years past dominated at every tournament. Now most crab teams are average at best. The 2022 crabs team is below average even C team at best.

They went 5-1 in Hoco AA last spring.

Thanks to an extremely advantageous schedule. How many of those Ws came against teams with winning records?

Crabs bounced from playoffs easily by 5th seed in 1st round.

ok. maybe not the top AA but competitive in AA. So your comment about C team is stupid

Crabs without Holdbacks is mediocre at best. Look what happens to them in the GOALs indoor league where stick skills and lacrosse IQ matter more than bulk.... they lose by 20+ to Annapolis Hawks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs without Holdbacks is mediocre at best. Look what happens to them in the GOALs indoor league where stick skills and lacrosse IQ matter more than bulk.... they lose by 20+ to Annapolis Hawks.

That would make sense other than Hawks having more holdbacks than Crabs does. All of Crabs older kids are prefirst kids. Hawks has kids repeating 7th grade this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs without Holdbacks is mediocre at best. Look what happens to them in the GOALs indoor league where stick skills and lacrosse IQ matter more than bulk.... they lose by 20+ to Annapolis Hawks.

That would make sense other than Hawks having more holdbacks than Crabs does. All of Crabs older kids are prefirst kids. Hawks has kids repeating 7th grade this year

You know this to be fact or just [lacrosse] talking again. How do you know the Crabs kids are prefirsts? How do you know Hawks has kids repeating 7th grade? To say the Hawks are repeating kids is a very misleading and stupid comment. The club does not tell Parents or their kids to repeat a grade. They have never been known to do that and simply wouldn't do that. Crabs have been known to have holdbacks or prefers or whatever for years and encourage it to an extent. They do not however tell Parents or kids to reclass or repeat a grade. Families make these decisions on their own . Every single club has a prefirst or holdback because of the cut offs and rules that ALL clubs must follow. Parents are making these decisions not clubs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs without Holdbacks is mediocre at best. Look what happens to them in the GOALs indoor league where stick skills and lacrosse IQ matter more than bulk.... they lose by 20+ to Annapolis Hawks.

that Crab team does have holdbacks .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs without Holdbacks is mediocre at best. Look what happens to them in the GOALs indoor league where stick skills and lacrosse IQ matter more than bulk.... they lose by 20+ to Annapolis Hawks.

That would make sense other than Hawks having more holdbacks than Crabs does. All of Crabs older kids are prefirst kids. Hawks has kids repeating 7th grade this year

Crabs have 8 holdbacks, Hawks have 4.

Hawks does not have more holdbacks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs without Holdbacks is mediocre at best. Look what happens to them in the GOALs indoor league where stick skills and lacrosse IQ matter more than bulk.... they lose by 20+ to Annapolis Hawks.

No one is chasing indoor titles.

Then don't play

How many crab kids played for FCA in Tampa?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many crab kids played for FCA in Tampa?

Who Cares ?

So what league is everyone playing in this year? Will crabs and FCA join the St. Paul's league? Does the hoco league have a Elite Division(2021 did last year)as well as a AA division? Any teams moving up from B division last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many crab kids played for FCA in Tampa?

1. There were 2 on Dukes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what league is everyone playing in this year? Will crabs and FCA join the St. Paul's league? Does the hoco league have a Elite Division(2021 did last year)as well as a AA division? Any teams moving up from B division last year?

FCA was in koopers league last year. They are not in it this year however.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what league is everyone playing in this year? Will crabs and FCA join the St. Paul's league? Does the hoco league have a Elite Division(2021 did last year)as well as a AA division? Any teams moving up from B division last year?

FCA was in koopers league last year. They are not in it this year however.

If St Pauls league(Koopers league) can not get the top local teams to join then it will be hard to attract other teams from outside Baltimore.
Crabs, FCA. 9+1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what league is everyone playing in this year? Will crabs and FCA join the St. Paul's league? Does the hoco league have a Elite Division(2021 did last year)as well as a AA division? Any teams moving up from B division last year?

Good question, It will probably depend on how each coach and club enters their team. Not enough teams to create another bracket.

Hoco is the best league in the country.
The best Nova, DC, Baltimore and Annapolis clubs play in it. A top philly team even make s the trip.
No other league can provide the facilities that they do.

Winning the top hoco division at any age is a major accomplishment.

Hoco league - the best place to see all the holdbacks in one place. Make it age based.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoco league - the best place to see all the holdbacks in one place. Make it age based.

The club you are associated with is age based?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoco league - the best place to see all the holdbacks in one place. Make it age based.

The club you are associated with is age based?

If you want to play in an age based league, play for a good rec travel team. Howard County has Leagues them as well (cobras).

The highest level of competition is with grade based club teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoco league - the best place to see all the holdbacks in one place. Make it age based.

Until rules are changed this is the landscape are boys play in if they want to be the best. Crying about it does nothing for anyone especially the players. Preparing for high school lax and a high level against other top players is ok with me. 1 year makes no difference and will not be an excuse in this house.
Pull your kid out and go play in the rec league so he will be a stud . Good luck in high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoco league - the best place to see all the holdbacks in one place. Make it age based.

Your not going to have a division for every numerical age in youth lacrosse! There would be 10 age groups vs. 5. Refs, coaches, fields, etc.; you just can't double the amount of teams overnight (with same amount of kids) and expect the support and resources to double, and be able to field full teams at practice! Youth sports prepare you for HS sports, hence one year you are older, one year you are younger as you alternate through the system (U9, U11, U13, etc).

For club, grad year is only way to go. You are not going to build club teams through youth levels, then shake up the teams that dramatically by changing the format at HS levels. Just doesn't make sense and not going to happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoco is the best league in the country.
The best Nova, DC, Baltimore and Annapolis clubs play in it. A top philly team even make s the trip.
No other league can provide the facilities that they do.

Winning the top hoco division at any age is a major accomplishment.

OK HoCo director.

You very well could have birth year teams in elite level lacrosse.

They already do that in elite travel soccer , hockey and basketball.

The rec level and second tier teams/programs have the 2 year mix of ages.

Soccer uses the same amount of fields and officials as lacrosse if not more in this area and they have no problem scheduling games.

When you have kids in their proper age groups the games are more competitive and safer for the players.

When you are in high school is when the club teams should be fielding graduation year teams not at the youth level.

You can very easily have aged based/birth year elite level lacrosse teams.

They already do that is elite soccer , ice hockey and basketball in this area.

Most rec or second tier programs have the blended ages

Soccer plays the same amount of games if not more then lacrosse in this area and they have plenty of fields and officials.

I having youth aged kids play against other kids that are the same birth year provide for better games and player safety at the elite level.

Once in high school graduation year teams are better for college coaches so they can see players who might not be playing alot as a freshman or Sophomore.

Plus once in high school you cannot hold back do to Maryland High school sports rules.

Personally I do not have a problem with a 1 year hold back but when you have players who have held back twice that is problem.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoco league - the best place to see all the holdbacks in one place. Make it age based.

Until rules are changed this is the landscape are boys play in if they want to be the best. Crying about it does nothing for anyone especially the players. Preparing for high school lax and a high level against other top players is ok with me. 1 year makes no difference and will not be an excuse in this house.
Pull your kid out and go play in the rec league so he will be a stud . Good luck in high school.

Of course it makes no difference. You buy into the grade based playing system of having select kids play down. Not sure how having select kids play down in 2025 grade makes everyone else in 2025 tough for HS. Keep telling yourself that.
Corruption of youth sports is letting select players play down.
Maryland is the land of Holdbacks and spineless USL HQ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoco league - the best place to see all the holdbacks in one place. Make it age based.

Until rules are changed this is the landscape are boys play in if they want to be the best. Crying about it does nothing for anyone especially the players. Preparing for high school lax and a high level against other top players is ok with me. 1 year makes no difference and will not be an excuse in this house.
Pull your kid out and go play in the rec league so he will be a stud . Good luck in high school.

Of course it makes no difference. You buy into the grade based playing system of having select kids play down. Not sure how having select kids play down in 2025 grade makes everyone else in 2025 tough for HS. Keep telling yourself that.
Corruption of youth sports is letting select players play down.
Maryland is the land of Holdbacks and spineless USL HQ.

How is the coaching, are they working religiously on fundamentals (or just scrimmaging in practice), are they improving, are they enjoying the sport? Only things you need to concern yourself with at the youth level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoco league - the best place to see all the holdbacks in one place. Make it age based.

Until rules are changed this is the landscape are boys play in if they want to be the best. Crying about it does nothing for anyone especially the players. Preparing for high school lax and a high level against other top players is ok with me. 1 year makes no difference and will not be an excuse in this house.
Pull your kid out and go play in the rec league so he will be a stud . Good luck in high school.

Of course it makes no difference. You buy into the grade based playing system of having select kids play down. Not sure how having select kids play down in 2025 grade makes everyone else in 2025 tough for HS. Keep telling yourself that.
Corruption of youth sports is letting select players play down.
Maryland is the land of Holdbacks and spineless USL HQ.

Actually, land of the lefty loopies, but thankfully lacrosse can cure even the toughest of cases, as long as the parents can bear the agony of watching 9 and 10 year olds play against one another. Hang in there, hon.

Originally Posted by forsports

You can very easily have aged based/birth year elite level lacrosse teams.

They already do that is elite soccer , ice hockey and basketball in this area.

Most rec or second tier programs have the blended ages

Soccer plays the same amount of games if not more then lacrosse in this area and they have plenty of fields and officials.

I having youth aged kids play against other kids that are the same birth year provide for better games and player safety at the elite level.

Once in high school graduation year teams are better for college coaches so they can see players who might not be playing alot as a freshman or Sophomore.

Plus once in high school you cannot hold back do to Maryland High school sports rules.

Personally I do not have a problem with a 1 year hold back but when you have players who have held back twice that is problem.

If you actually know of any kid at the youth level that has repeated two grades already, which you don't, please just keep quiet and leave that family alone!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by forsports

You can very easily have aged based/birth year elite level lacrosse teams.

They already do that is elite soccer , ice hockey and basketball in this area.

Most rec or second tier programs have the blended ages

Soccer plays the same amount of games if not more then lacrosse in this area and they have plenty of fields and officials.

I having youth aged kids play against other kids that are the same birth year provide for better games and player safety at the elite level.

Once in high school graduation year teams are better for college coaches so they can see players who might not be playing alot as a freshman or Sophomore.

Plus once in high school you cannot hold back do to Maryland High school sports rules.

Personally I do not have a problem with a 1 year hold back but when you have players who have held back twice that is problem.

If you actually know of any kid at the youth level that has repeated two grades already, which you don't, please just keep quiet and leave that family alone!

You can't repeat twice in MIAA without forfeiting your senior year.

1 year is all you will see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hoco league - the best place to see all the holdbacks in one place. Make it age based.

Until rules are changed this is the landscape are boys play in if they want to be the best. Crying about it does nothing for anyone especially the players. Preparing for high school lax and a high level against other top players is ok with me. 1 year makes no difference and will not be an excuse in this house.
Pull your kid out and go play in the rec league so he will be a stud . Good luck in high school.

What a tool, if 1 year makes that much of a difference for your kid than go play Rec, wait , Rec is u9,u11,u13,u15 . So what is the complaint agin for your kid, maybe soccer is the sport he should be playing.

Of course it makes no difference. You buy into the grade based playing system of having select kids play down. Not sure how having select kids play down in 2025 grade makes everyone else in 2025 tough for HS. Keep telling yourself that.
Corruption of youth sports is letting select players play down.
Maryland is the land of Holdbacks and spineless USL HQ.

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Lets not forget Hawks, Team 9d1, Next Level, VLC, HOCO, Bitmore, Rock, Koopers etc. The list just goes on, they all have some holdbacks but the clubs with the largest number of holdbacks is clearly Crabs followed closely by FCA.

Lol. Madlax has more holdbacks than anyone.h

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Or you could start a snowflake league. Membership would be through the roof.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Hoco has a travel rec league for those that want to play age based and a club league for those that want to play grade based. Take your pick.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Or you could start a snowflake league. Membership would be through the roof.

No the snowflake league is what you have now. A bunch of holdbacks that cant compete with kids their own age. Maybe these snowflakes should hit the wall, toughen up, etc Then they might be able to compete with children their own age. The holdbacks need to playdown not play at age! That is a snowflake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Or you could start a snowflake league. Membership would be through the roof.

No the snowflake league is what you have now. A bunch of holdbacks that cant compete with kids their own age. Maybe these snowflakes should hit the wall, toughen up, etc Then they might be able to compete with children their own age. The holdbacks need to playdown not play at age! That is a snowflake.

The initial comment referenced 2020 kids (HS kids now), and there is no reason for a high school kid to play out of grade, in a grade-based league, where they are being evaluated by grade. If you are talking about youth levels, again there are age-based leagues (rec), and grade-based leagues (club). It is unreasonable for adults to criticize kids playing within the league criteria. Some chose to play up in both types of leagues, but that is a family decision. Criticize the league if you think you will get somewhere, but you won't, so probably just shut up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Or you could start a snowflake league. Membership would be through the roof.

No the snowflake league is what you have now. A bunch of holdbacks that cant compete with kids their own age. Maybe these snowflakes should hit the wall, toughen up, etc Then they might be able to compete with children their own age. The holdbacks need to playdown not play at age! That is a snowflake.

An adult who likes to criticize kids (minors), playing within a system, instead of criticizing the league that mandates the system. Very cowardly, hence your official snowflake status, lifetime membership.

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Or you could start a snowflake league. Membership would be through the roof.

No the snowflake league is what you have now. A bunch of holdbacks that cant compete with kids their own age. Maybe these snowflakes should hit the wall, toughen up, etc Then they might be able to compete with children their own age. The holdbacks need to playdown not play at age! That is a snowflake.

The initial comment referenced 2020 kids (HS kids now), and there is no reason for a high school kid to play out of grade, in a grade-based league, where they are being evaluated by grade. If you are talking about youth levels, again there are age-based leagues (rec), and grade-based leagues (club). It is unreasonable for adults to criticize kids playing within the league criteria. Some chose to play up in both types of leagues, but that is a family decision. Criticize the league if you think you will get somewhere, but you won't, so probably just shut up.

HS leagues are and always have been grade based. Not one person has ever complained about that . I guess you must want some 2020 straw man to attack to make your point?? 2020 until this year wasnt HS.

Youth Lacrosse leagues have always been age based until last few years. Youth Leagues should be age based. Pretty simple concept except to apologists for a system that lets select kids play down. Maryland with its MIAA prefists/holdbacks have started a trend in youth lacrosse. The trend of getting my kid an advantage by being older than the majority of players in his Youth will continue and get bigger and bigger. Maybe you think that is a good trend for Youth lacrosse. The majority of people dont.
Just because a family decides to hold their child back doesnt give them some special right to an advantage others exact same age dont get when they are 8 years old thru 14 years old in Youth athletics?? With the new grade based leagues allowing it.. Maybe you think as long as the rules say it is ok, why not? The majority of people dont think it is right for youth sports . Youth sports has never been about giving select children an advantage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Or you could start a snowflake league. Membership would be through the roof.

No the snowflake league is what you have now. A bunch of holdbacks that cant compete with kids their own age. Maybe these snowflakes should hit the wall, toughen up, etc Then they might be able to compete with children their own age. The holdbacks need to playdown not play at age! That is a snowflake.

An adult who likes to criticize kids (minors), playing within a system, instead of criticizing the league that mandates the system. Very cowardly, hence your official snowflake status, lifetime membership.

I see..You can say start a snowflake league and will a membership (minors/players) through the roof . Which supposedly absolves you from the fray..But you dont actually explain what you mean. Of course yours is just implied. So that means its ok in your world. LOL
For being such a hypocrite and coward you get the lifetime membership along with a special award of a weasel snake badge for you implying what you accuse others of doing. Well done!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Or you could start a snowflake league. Membership would be through the roof.

No the snowflake league is what you have now. A bunch of holdbacks that cant compete with kids their own age. Maybe these snowflakes should hit the wall, toughen up, etc Then they might be able to compete with children their own age. The holdbacks need to playdown not play at age! That is a snowflake.

An adult who likes to criticize kids (minors), playing within a system, instead of criticizing the league that mandates the system. Very cowardly, hence your official snowflake status, lifetime membership.

Leagues should not have to think of every possible way parents will try to manipulate the system. The fault lies with the parents -not the leagues- who think their child is so special that they can play against kids two years younger to look better. Take some responsibility for what you are doing and the message you send your man child.

Give it a rest already. I am positive the subject has been talked about to DEATH.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

BLC, Club Blue, 3D, Next Level.

Tough League

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

BLC, Club Blue, 3D, Next Level.

Tough League

Tough league for B teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Or you could start a snowflake league. Membership would be through the roof.

No the snowflake league is what you have now. A bunch of holdbacks that cant compete with kids their own age. Maybe these snowflakes should hit the wall, toughen up, etc Then they might be able to compete with children their own age. The holdbacks need to playdown not play at age! That is a snowflake.

The initial comment referenced 2020 kids (HS kids now), and there is no reason for a high school kid to play out of grade, in a grade-based league, where they are being evaluated by grade. If you are talking about youth levels, again there are age-based leagues (rec), and grade-based leagues (club). It is unreasonable for adults to criticize kids playing within the league criteria. Some chose to play up in both types of leagues, but that is a family decision. Criticize the league if you think you will get somewhere, but you won't, so probably just shut up.

HS leagues are and always have been grade based. Not one person has ever complained about that . I guess you must want some 2020 straw man to attack to make your point?? 2020 until this year wasnt HS.

Youth Lacrosse leagues have always been age based until last few years. Youth Leagues should be age based. Pretty simple concept except to apologists for a system that lets select kids play down. Maryland with its MIAA prefists/holdbacks have started a trend in youth lacrosse. The trend of getting my kid an advantage by being older than the majority of players in his Youth will continue and get bigger and bigger. Maybe you think that is a good trend for Youth lacrosse. The majority of people dont.
Just because a family decides to hold their child back doesnt give them some special right to an advantage others exact same age dont get when they are 8 years old thru 14 years old in Youth athletics?? With the new grade based leagues allowing it.. Maybe you think as long as the rules say it is ok, why not? The majority of people dont think it is right for youth sports . Youth sports has never been about giving select children an advantage.

There are just not many kids out there repeating grades for advantage at grade based club lax. The issue at this age is the fact that most private school kids do prefirst, and the average age spread between the two is about a year. The majority don't care, as the sport and club participation grows every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Or you could start a snowflake league. Membership would be through the roof.

No the snowflake league is what you have now. A bunch of holdbacks that cant compete with kids their own age. Maybe these snowflakes should hit the wall, toughen up, etc Then they might be able to compete with children their own age. The holdbacks need to playdown not play at age! That is a snowflake.

An adult who likes to criticize kids (minors), playing within a system, instead of criticizing the league that mandates the system. Very cowardly, hence your official snowflake status, lifetime membership.

I see..You can say start a snowflake league and will a membership (minors/players) through the roof . Which supposedly absolves you from the fray..But you dont actually explain what you mean. Of course yours is just implied. So that means its ok in your world. LOL
For being such a hypocrite and coward you get the lifetime membership along with a special award of a weasel snake badge for you implying what you accuse others of doing. Well done!

Huh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

BLC, Club Blue, 3D, Next Level.

Tough League

At 2022, only BLC is any good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

BLC, Club Blue, 3D, Next Level.

Tough League

At 2022, only BLC is any good.

Bur what league is better?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

BLC, Club Blue, 3D, Next Level.

Tough League

At 2022, only BLC is any good.

Yea. Hawks are terrible. Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

BLC, Club Blue, 3D, Next Level.

Tough League

At 2022, only BLC is any good.

BLC?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The grade based system is total black eye on the sport. Last season had soon to be 16 years olds (In the case of the Crabs - an actual 16 year old 2020 player) play against kids that are 13 or 14. Completely absurd. HOCO should follow USL guidelines and go age based next year. Probably won't because the FCAs, Looneys and Crabs of the world will fly the coop and start their own grade based league. Too bad USL has no teeth.

Or you could start a snowflake league. Membership would be through the roof.

No the snowflake league is what you have now. A bunch of holdbacks that cant compete with kids their own age. Maybe these snowflakes should hit the wall, toughen up, etc Then they might be able to compete with children their own age. The holdbacks need to playdown not play at age! That is a snowflake.

The initial comment referenced 2020 kids (HS kids now), and there is no reason for a high school kid to play out of grade, in a grade-based league, where they are being evaluated by grade. If you are talking about youth levels, again there are age-based leagues (rec), and grade-based leagues (club). It is unreasonable for adults to criticize kids playing within the league criteria. Some chose to play up in both types of leagues, but that is a family decision. Criticize the league if you think you will get somewhere, but you won't, so probably just shut up.

HS leagues are and always have been grade based. Not one person has ever complained about that . I guess you must want some 2020 straw man to attack to make your point?? 2020 until this year wasnt HS.

Youth Lacrosse leagues have always been age based until last few years. Youth Leagues should be age based. Pretty simple concept except to apologists for a system that lets select kids play down. Maryland with its MIAA prefists/holdbacks have started a trend in youth lacrosse. The trend of getting my kid an advantage by being older than the majority of players in his Youth will continue and get bigger and bigger. Maybe you think that is a good trend for Youth lacrosse. The majority of people dont.
Just because a family decides to hold their child back doesnt give them some special right to an advantage others exact same age dont get when they are 8 years old thru 14 years old in Youth athletics?? With the new grade based leagues allowing it.. Maybe you think as long as the rules say it is ok, why not? The majority of people dont think it is right for youth sports . Youth sports has never been about giving select children an advantage.

There are just not many kids out there repeating grades for advantage at grade based club lax. The issue at this age is the fact that most private school kids do prefirst, and the average age spread between the two is about a year. The majority don't care, as the sport and club participation grows every year.

Not sure where you live?? There are many kids being held back in prefirst. Every MIAA school has a class of prefirst that has a lower school. Even some MIAA B schools have a prefrist grade. And of course there are children that are not ready for various reasons in public's that are heldback from starting. Do these people think about Lacrosse while holding there child back. Maybe a few.

Still doesnt change the fact that there are many of these heldback kids.
And to say it isnt an advantage is a complete lie. The biggest complaints come from the best teams. All have multiple holdbacks.
Most heldback kids arent playing B. Without these holdbacks they would be completely different teams. May still be good but different.
There are too many holdbacks in youth lacrosse in Maryland. Youth sports was never intended to let select older kids playdown.

And the majority do care. And if you think there will not be more and more kids heldback for Lacrosse, you are fooling yourself. Majority of coaches I know who have children in MIAA schools have held their child back regardless of birth month. They know the drill.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

BLC, Club Blue, 3D, Next Level.

Tough League

At 2022, only BLC is any good.

Yea. Hawks are terrible. Lol

What are you stupid? Of the teams in that crappy league, only BLC is good at 2022. Read much AA Co water rat?

Any teams playing in the St Paul's league?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any teams playing in the St Paul's league?

Koopers

Who won the Crabs vs Rough Riders game yesterday?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

BLC, Club Blue, 3D, Next Level.

Tough League

At 2022, only BLC is any good.

Yea. Hawks are terrible. Lol

What are you stupid? Of the teams in that crappy league, only BLC is good at 2022. Read much AA Co water rat?

Hawks are in that league genius.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the Crabs vs Rough Riders game yesterday?

Rough Riders

There are just not many kids out there repeating grades for advantage at grade based club lax. The issue at this age is the fact that most private school kids do prefirst, and the average age spread between the two is about a year. The majority don't care, as the sport and club participation grows every year. [/quote]

Not sure where you live?? There are many kids being held back in prefirst. Every MIAA school has a class of prefirst that has a lower school. Even some MIAA B schools have a prefrist grade. And of course there are children that are not ready for various reasons in public's that are heldback from starting. Do these people think about Lacrosse while holding there child back. Maybe a few.

Still doesnt change the fact that there are many of these heldback kids.
And to say it isnt an advantage is a complete lie. The biggest complaints come from the best teams. All have multiple holdbacks.
Most heldback kids arent playing B. Without these holdbacks they would be completely different teams. May still be good but different.
There are too many holdbacks in youth lacrosse in Maryland. Youth sports was never intended to let select older kids playdown.

And the majority do care. And if you think there will not be more and more kids heldback for Lacrosse, you are fooling yourself. Majority of coaches I know who have children in MIAA schools have held their child back regardless of birth month. They know the drill. [/quote]

If you find yourself consistently having this argument, start focusing on the new activities that are just over the horizon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the Crabs vs Rough Riders game yesterday?

Rough Riders

Close game?

I think were the holdback argument falls apart is when you complain the older kids have a advantage you look like someone who plans on their kid playing college lacrosse. Youth lacrosse "should be for FUN" is what most of us hear and say. So if the older kids have a advantage it should not bother you it they are playing for fun anyway. So if you think your kid is going to play college ball they will have to beat out these same kids to play college lacrosse. So if you are one of the serious parents, you can not complain because these are your sons pool of kids he needs to beat out for the 71 X 12 spots for D1 college lacrosse. If you are the playing for fun parent you should not care about a advantage for one team over another "its just for FUN" This is my 2 cents what do you think.

You live in a bubble if you think MIAA kids are not re-classing at the 8th grade level in order to improve their chances in the lacrosse. Crabs and FCA are full of holdbacks.

Or you could start a snowflake league. Membership would be through the roof. [/quote]

No the snowflake league is what you have now. A bunch of holdbacks that cant compete with kids their own age. Maybe these snowflakes should hit the wall, toughen up, etc Then they might be able to compete with children their own age. The holdbacks need to playdown not play at age! That is a snowflake. [/quote]

The initial comment referenced 2020 kids (HS kids now), and there is no reason for a high school kid to play out of grade, in a grade-based league, where they are being evaluated by grade. If you are talking about youth levels, again there are age-based leagues (rec), and grade-based leagues (club). It is unreasonable for adults to criticize kids playing within the league criteria. Some chose to play up in both types of leagues, but that is a family decision. Criticize the league if you think you will get somewhere, but you won't, so probably just shut up. [/quote]

HS leagues are and always have been grade based. Not one person has ever complained about that . I guess you must want some 2020 straw man to attack to make your point?? 2020 until this year wasnt HS.

Youth Lacrosse leagues have always been age based until last few years. Youth Leagues should be age based. Pretty simple concept except to apologists for a system that lets select kids play down. Maryland with its MIAA prefists/holdbacks have started a trend in youth lacrosse. The trend of getting my kid an advantage by being older than the majority of players in his Youth will continue and get bigger and bigger. Maybe you think that is a good trend for Youth lacrosse. The majority of people dont.
Just because a family decides to hold their child back doesnt give them some special right to an advantage others exact same age dont get when they are 8 years old thru 14 years old in Youth athletics?? With the new grade based leagues allowing it.. Maybe you think as long as the rules say it is ok, why not? The majority of people dont think it is right for youth sports . Youth sports has never been about giving select children an advantage.
[/quote]

There are just not many kids out there repeating grades for advantage at grade based club lax. The issue at this age is the fact that most private school kids do prefirst, and the average age spread between the two is about a year. The majority don't care, as the sport and club participation grows every year. [/quote]

Not sure where you live?? There are many kids being held back in prefirst. Every MIAA school has a class of prefirst that has a lower school. Even some MIAA B schools have a prefrist grade. And of course there are children that are not ready for various reasons in public's that are heldback from starting. Do these people think about Lacrosse while holding there child back. Maybe a few.

Still doesnt change the fact that there are many of these heldback kids.
And to say it isnt an advantage is a complete lie. The biggest complaints come from the best teams. All have multiple holdbacks.
Most heldback kids arent playing B. Without these holdbacks they would be completely different teams. May still be good but different.
There are too many holdbacks in youth lacrosse in Maryland. Youth sports was never intended to let select older kids playdown.

And the majority do care. And if you think there will not be more and more kids heldback for Lacrosse, you are fooling yourself. Majority of coaches I know who have children in MIAA schools have held their child back regardless of birth month. They know the drill. [/quote]

So if my kid did pre-first and is in 3rd grade, I should sign him up for 4th grade team? Why again? Everyone in his grade plays in the 3rd grade bracket, because, I suppose, they are in the 3rd grade. Under your scenario, when he gets to the 8th grade, should he play 8th grade for a second time, play in the HS bracket in 8th grade, or do the 9th grade bracket twice eventually, and for the first time play with his actual classmates? As an aside, if he ever gets good at the sport, which year would you have the opposition's parents most appropriately start complaining about his nefarious dealings as a 6 year old, when he manipulated his school's administrators into letting him do prefirst?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the Crabs vs Rough Riders game yesterday?

Rough Riders

Close game?

16-8. Crabs played back to back games with a short bench.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the Crabs vs Rough Riders game yesterday?

Rough Riders

Close game?

17-8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You live in a bubble if you think MIAA kids are not re-classing at the 8th grade level in order to improve their chances in the lacrosse. Crabs and FCA are full of holdbacks.

If we are talking 8th grade into HS, 90% of what you are calling holdback on those teams means prefirst, which is all but the curriculum for privates now. Some that didn't do prefirst eventually repeat in middle school, where most of their classmates already did in elementary. Private school kids on average a year older than public. The top teams are mostly private school kids, and it is not some underhanded plot, just is a product of the curriculum differences.

can we start a new thread for all of the holdback crap. Its old and outdated...If it bothers you so much play baseball.

What league is going on at St. Pauls? are they playing in the gym or outside. Great to hear that the kids are improving.
What other teams are in it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can we start a new thread for all of the holdback crap. Its old and outdated...If it bothers you so much play baseball.

What league is going on at St. Pauls? are they playing in the gym or outside. Great to hear that the kids are improving.
What other teams are in it?

They are talking about the MPLL spring league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the Crabs vs Rough Riders game yesterday?

Rough Riders

Close game?

17-8

Short bench, no goalie and two games in a row. Crabs leading 4-1 early and then ran out of steam. Too many Xmas cookies.

Just checked goals schedule and they play again next week. Then RR plays Hawks right after that. Might be some fun games to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

BLC, Club Blue, 3D, Next Level.j

Tough League

At 2022, only BLC is any good.

Yea. Hawks are terrible. Lol

What are you stupid? Of the teams in that crappy league, only BLC is good at 2022. Read much AA Co water rat?

Hawks are in that league genius.

Thanks. Not so bright. Hints must not work with this guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just checked goals schedule and they play again next week. Then RR plays Hawks right after that. Might be some fun games to watch.

It's winter box, no one cares, it's just for fun and to keep a stick in the kids hand. I would guess none of these teams hold practice between games. The real season starts in the spring, that is when wins and scores matter. Most teams in this league have it voluntary if you want to play on any given Sunday, not mandatory to show and play. Good example could be Crabs with a short bench and no goalie. Also heard RR were missing some players as well.
Don't get too excited with box, spring league will be here soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

BLC, Club Blue, 3D, Next Level.

Tough League

At 2022, only BLC is any good.

Yea. Hawks are terrible. Lol

How did the games go in this league?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just checked goals schedule and they play again next week. Then RR plays Hawks right after that. Might be some fun games to watch.

It's winter box, no one cares, it's just for fun and to keep a stick in the kids hand. I would guess none of these teams hold practice between games. The real season starts in the spring, that is when wins and scores matter. Most teams in this league have it voluntary if you want to play on any given Sunday, not mandatory to show and play. Good example could be Crabs with a short bench and no goalie. Also heard RR were missing some players as well.
Don't get too excited with box, spring league will be here soon.

Noted, but don't be surprised when the Rough Riders thump the Crabs this spring as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just checked goals schedule and they play again next week. Then RR plays Hawks right after that. Might be some fun games to watch.

It's winter box, no one cares, it's just for fun and to keep a stick in the kids hand. I would guess none of these teams hold practice between games. The real season starts in the spring, that is when wins and scores matter. Most teams in this league have it voluntary if you want to play on any given Sunday, not mandatory to show and play. Good example could be Crabs with a short bench and no goalie. Also heard RR were missing some players as well.
Don't get too excited with box, spring league will be here soon.

Noted, but don't be surprised when the Rough Riders thump the Crabs this spring as well.

. I would love to see that. RR does it the right way.

Everyone calm down. The cream always rises to the top come spring time, until then enjoy your indoor victories.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the majority do care. And if you think there will not be more and more kids heldback for Lacrosse, you are fooling yourself. Majority of coaches I know who have children in MIAA schools have held their child back regardless of birth month. They know the drill.

So if my kid did pre-first and is in 3rd grade, I should sign him up for 4th grade team? Why again? Everyone in his grade plays in the 3rd grade bracket, because, I suppose, they are in the 3rd grade. Under your scenario, when he gets to the 8th grade, should he play 8th grade for a second time, play in the HS bracket in 8th grade, or do the 9th grade bracket twice eventually, and for the first time play with his actual classmates? As an aside, if he ever gets good at the sport, which year would you have the opposition's parents most appropriately start complaining about his nefarious dealings as a 6 year old, when he manipulated his school's administrators into letting him do prefirst?

No in years pass and in most YOUTH sports you should sign him up for his age group he is assigned. But not in Maryland where youth lacrosse has been taken over by MIAA prefirst mentality. Or do you think that you should get a special pass for your child and all other child held back. Do you think only your child should go to head of the age group?? Do you think that all the others children born exact same day as your child should have to play in their assigned age group while your child gets to skip to the front.

And your straw-man poor child has to play 8th grade twice is garbage. When you play for your school team MS or HS, you play in your grade. HS club teams have always been grade based, and youth club teams up to 14 has always been age... Pretty simple concept, except to parents who want their child and only their child to get an advantage in YOUTH sports other parents do not get. You want to have your prefirst child be the oldest in youth sports. Why not let anyone that wants to play down do it?? why just your child?? When did youth sports be about carving out special groups to give them an advantage??

And your other straw-man about school manipulations etc of a 6 year old are garbage to. No one cares why or what the reason you decide to hold your child back and do prefirst or any grade. Every parent should do what is best for their child. But holding your child back doesnt give you a special right in YOUTH sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the majority do care. And if you think there will not be more and more kids heldback for Lacrosse, you are fooling yourself. Majority of coaches I know who have children in MIAA schools have held their child back regardless of birth month. They know the drill.

So if my kid did pre-first and is in 3rd grade, I should sign him up for 4th grade team? Why again? Everyone in his grade plays in the 3rd grade bracket, because, I suppose, they are in the 3rd grade. Under your scenario, when he gets to the 8th grade, should he play 8th grade for a second time, play in the HS bracket in 8th grade, or do the 9th grade bracket twice eventually, and for the first time play with his actual classmates? As an aside, if he ever gets good at the sport, which year would you have the opposition's parents most appropriately start complaining about his nefarious dealings as a 6 year old, when he manipulated his school's administrators into letting him do prefirst?

No in years pass and in most YOUTH sports you should sign him up for his age group he is assigned. But not in Maryland where youth lacrosse has been taken over by MIAA prefirst mentality. Or do you think that you should get a special pass for your child and all other child held back. Do you think only your child should go to head of the age group?? Do you think that all the others children born exact same day as your child should have to play in their assigned age group while your child gets to skip to the front.

And your straw-man poor child has to play 8th grade twice is garbage. When you play for your school team MS or HS, you play in your grade. HS club teams have always been grade based, and youth club teams up to 14 has always been age... Pretty simple concept, except to parents who want their child and only their child to get an advantage in YOUTH sports other parents do not get. You want to have your prefirst child be the oldest in youth sports. Why not let anyone that wants to play down do it?? why just your child?? When did youth sports be about carving out special groups to give them an advantage??

And your other straw-man about school manipulations etc of a 6 year old are garbage to. No one cares why or what the reason you decide to hold your child back and do prefirst or any grade. Every parent should do what is best for their child. But holding your child back doesnt give you a special right in YOUTH sports.

Not sure where you are located, but I believe, or at least the preceding argument seems to imply that there is a predominant amount of private school kids in the system, so I would ask, what do you expect almost every private school parent to do - sign up for the grade ahead, assuming someone will complain years down the road? If it is age based, sure, you simply sign up for the age group where your kid qualifies. You seem to be very predisposed to attack parents/kids, but seriously, why would a 2nd/3rd/4th grade parent signing a kid up for a grade based league assume, when it says "grade", that they should automatically add +1, and leave it to the parent to try to calculate or reconcile how this may or may not affect every other kid signing up. Something just isn't adding up in your argument, seems personal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the majority do care. And if you think there will not be more and more kids heldback for Lacrosse, you are fooling yourself. Majority of coaches I know who have children in MIAA schools have held their child back regardless of birth month. They know the drill.

So if my kid did pre-first and is in 3rd grade, I should sign him up for 4th grade team? Why again? Everyone in his grade plays in the 3rd grade bracket, because, I suppose, they are in the 3rd grade. Under your scenario, when he gets to the 8th grade, should he play 8th grade for a second time, play in the HS bracket in 8th grade, or do the 9th grade bracket twice eventually, and for the first time play with his actual classmates? As an aside, if he ever gets good at the sport, which year would you have the opposition's parents most appropriately start complaining about his nefarious dealings as a 6 year old, when he manipulated his school's administrators into letting him do prefirst?

No in years pass and in most YOUTH sports you should sign him up for his age group he is assigned. But not in Maryland where youth lacrosse has been taken over by MIAA prefirst mentality. Or do you think that you should get a special pass for your child and all other child held back. Do you think only your child should go to head of the age group?? Do you think that all the others children born exact same day as your child should have to play in their assigned age group while your child gets to skip to the front.

And your straw-man poor child has to play 8th grade twice is garbage. When you play for your school team MS or HS, you play in your grade. HS club teams have always been grade based, and youth club teams up to 14 has always been age... Pretty simple concept, except to parents who want their child and only their child to get an advantage in YOUTH sports other parents do not get. You want to have your prefirst child be the oldest in youth sports. Why not let anyone that wants to play down do it?? why just your child?? When did youth sports be about carving out special groups to give them an advantage??

And your other straw-man about school manipulations etc of a 6 year old are garbage to. No one cares why or what the reason you decide to hold your child back and do prefirst or any grade. Every parent should do what is best for their child. But holding your child back doesnt give you a special right in YOUTH sports.

You continue to miss the point. You register the kid according to the league rules. Your issue should be with the league. So you have two choices. Lobby the league to change the rules to age based or play your kid in an age based league. Nobody is getting special rights in the league because that is how the league is set up. Why is it the parents' fault that you don't like the league rules? You say they can play their kid up a grade where they would've been if not for doing a prefirst 7 years ago. But you can register your kid for a team that plays in a league where you like the rules. But you want the league to conform to your preference. Who is looking for special treatment again?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the majority do care. And if you think there will not be more and more kids heldback for Lacrosse, you are fooling yourself. Majority of coaches I know who have children in MIAA schools have held their child back regardless of birth month. They know the drill.

So if my kid did pre-first and is in 3rd grade, I should sign him up for 4th grade team? Why again? Everyone in his grade plays in the 3rd grade bracket, because, I suppose, they are in the 3rd grade. Under your scenario, when he gets to the 8th grade, should he play 8th grade for a second time, play in the HS bracket in 8th grade, or do the 9th grade bracket twice eventually, and for the first time play with his actual classmates? As an aside, if he ever gets good at the sport, which year would you have the opposition's parents most appropriately start complaining about his nefarious dealings as a 6 year old, when he manipulated his school's administrators into letting him do prefirst?

No in years pass and in most YOUTH sports you should sign him up for his age group he is assigned. But not in Maryland where youth lacrosse has been taken over by MIAA prefirst mentality. Or do you think that you should get a special pass for your child and all other child held back. Do you think only your child should go to head of the age group?? Do you think that all the others children born exact same day as your child should have to play in their assigned age group while your child gets to skip to the front.

And your straw-man poor child has to play 8th grade twice is garbage. When you play for your school team MS or HS, you play in your grade. HS club teams have always been grade based, and youth club teams up to 14 has always been age... Pretty simple concept, except to parents who want their child and only their child to get an advantage in YOUTH sports other parents do not get. You want to have your prefirst child be the oldest in youth sports. Why not let anyone that wants to play down do it?? why just your child?? When did youth sports be about carving out special groups to give them an advantage??

And your other straw-man about school manipulations etc of a 6 year old are garbage to. No one cares why or what the reason you decide to hold your child back and do prefirst or any grade. Every parent should do what is best for their child. But holding your child back doesnt give you a special right in YOUTH sports.

You continue to miss the point. You register the kid according to the league rules. Your issue should be with the league. So you have two choices. Lobby the league to change the rules to age based or play your kid in an age based league. Nobody is getting special rights in the league because that is how the league is set up. Why is it the parents' fault that you don't like the league rules? You say they can play their kid up a grade where they would've been if not for doing a prefirst 7 years ago. But you can register your kid for a team that plays in a league where you like the rules. But you want the league to conform to your preference. Who is looking for special treatment again?

Everyone knew a few years ago that if the NPYLL went to graduation year it would benefit certain programs. Those running thier respective programs wanted this because they knew it would create a competitive advantage. Unless those powers that wanted the advantage decide to change it, it is here to stay.

Time to move on. Run a organized and complete practice and get your team ready to compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the majority do care. And if you think there will not be more and more kids heldback for Lacrosse, you are fooling yourself. Majority of coaches I know who have children in MIAA schools have held their child back regardless of birth month. They know the drill.

So if my kid did pre-first and is in 3rd grade, I should sign him up for 4th grade team? Why again? Everyone in his grade plays in the 3rd grade bracket, because, I suppose, they are in the 3rd grade. Under your scenario, when he gets to the 8th grade, should he play 8th grade for a second time, play in the HS bracket in 8th grade, or do the 9th grade bracket twice eventually, and for the first time play with his actual classmates? As an aside, if he ever gets good at the sport, which year would you have the opposition's parents most appropriately start complaining about his nefarious dealings as a 6 year old, when he manipulated his school's administrators into letting him do prefirst?

No in years pass and in most YOUTH sports you should sign him up for his age group he is assigned. But not in Maryland where youth lacrosse has been taken over by MIAA prefirst mentality. Or do you think that you should get a special pass for your child and all other child held back. Do you think only your child should go to head of the age group?? Do you think that all the others children born exact same day as your child should have to play in their assigned age group while your child gets to skip to the front.

And your straw-man poor child has to play 8th grade twice is garbage. When you play for your school team MS or HS, you play in your grade. HS club teams have always been grade based, and youth club teams up to 14 has always been age... Pretty simple concept, except to parents who want their child and only their child to get an advantage in YOUTH sports other parents do not get. You want to have your prefirst child be the oldest in youth sports. Why not let anyone that wants to play down do it?? why just your child?? When did youth sports be about carving out special groups to give them an advantage??

And your other straw-man about school manipulations etc of a 6 year old are garbage to. No one cares why or what the reason you decide to hold your child back and do prefirst or any grade. Every parent should do what is best for their child. But holding your child back doesnt give you a special right in YOUTH sports.

Your career as a lacrosse spectator will be over soon. Enjoy the last couple years, dude.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the majority do care. And if you think there will not be more and more kids heldback for Lacrosse, you are fooling yourself. Majority of coaches I know who have children in MIAA schools have held their child back regardless of birth month. They know the drill.

So if my kid did pre-first and is in 3rd grade, I should sign him up for 4th grade team? Why again? Everyone in his grade plays in the 3rd grade bracket, because, I suppose, they are in the 3rd grade. Under your scenario, when he gets to the 8th grade, should he play 8th grade for a second time, play in the HS bracket in 8th grade, or do the 9th grade bracket twice eventually, and for the first time play with his actual classmates? As an aside, if he ever gets good at the sport, which year would you have the opposition's parents most appropriately start complaining about his nefarious dealings as a 6 year old, when he manipulated his school's administrators into letting him do prefirst?

No in years pass and in most YOUTH sports you should sign him up for his age group he is assigned. But not in Maryland where youth lacrosse has been taken over by MIAA prefirst mentality. Or do you think that you should get a special pass for your child and all other child held back. Do you think only your child should go to head of the age group?? Do you think that all the others children born exact same day as your child should have to play in their assigned age group while your child gets to skip to the front.

And your straw-man poor child has to play 8th grade twice is garbage. When you play for your school team MS or HS, you play in your grade. HS club teams have always been grade based, and youth club teams up to 14 has always been age... Pretty simple concept, except to parents who want their child and only their child to get an advantage in YOUTH sports other parents do not get. You want to have your prefirst child be the oldest in youth sports. Why not let anyone that wants to play down do it?? why just your child?? When did youth sports be about carving out special groups to give them an advantage??

And your other straw-man about school manipulations etc of a 6 year old are garbage to. No one cares why or what the reason you decide to hold your child back and do prefirst or any grade. Every parent should do what is best for their child. But holding your child back doesnt give you a special right in YOUTH sports.

You continue to miss the point. You register the kid according to the league rules. Your issue should be with the league. So you have two choices. Lobby the league to change the rules to age based or play your kid in an age based league. Nobody is getting special rights in the league because that is how the league is set up. Why is it the parents' fault that you don't like the league rules? You say they can play their kid up a grade where they would've been if not for doing a prefirst 7 years ago. But you can register your kid for a team that plays in a league where you like the rules. But you want the league to conform to your preference. Who is looking for special treatment again?

take this tired old argument to your own forum . Create one ! Your bitterness towards a flawed system is annoying to say the least. Your special pass argument is a sad one when describing young men. As if they are cheaters or somehow in control over their lives. Take your stupid [lacrosse] to another forum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone calm down. The cream always rises to the top come spring time, until then enjoy your indoor victories.

That is funny.. We all hope the Crabs 2022 rises to the top or at least to the middle of the pack. Everyone would love to see it . It would be great to see and make this region even stronger than it is for 2022.

People who keep calling RR a B level team clearly have not watched them play or get better every game they play. Yes indoor means nothing in the Spring but you can bet that every indoor league and game counts to those teams participating in it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

BLC, Club Blue, 3D, Next Level.

Tough League

At 2022, only BLC is any good.

Yea. Hawks are terrible. Lol

How did the games go in this league?

Diamondbacks play 3D and Next Level this week in the DMV Premier League.
Bethesda plays Club Blue

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DMV Premier League by Next Level / PSS starts this week. Who's in it? Last year all the top D.C. Area clubs were in it.

BLC, Club Blue, 3D, Next Level.

Tough League

At 2022, only BLC is any good.

Yea. Hawks are terrible. Lol

How did the games go in this league?

Diamondbacks play 3D and Next Level this week in the DMV Premier League.
Bethesda plays Club Blue

Keep us updated.

Hawks beat Roughriders 13-11 good game

Roughriders Crabs game. Crabs No Show!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks beat Roughriders 13-11 good game

Roughriders Crabs game. Crabs No Show!

No show???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks beat Roughriders 13-11 good game

Roughriders Crabs game. Crabs No Show!

Playoff seeding for Goals playoffs
1 Hawks
2 Rough Riders
3 Crabs
4 Rock
5 Looneys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks beat Roughriders 13-11 good game

Roughriders Crabs game. Crabs No Show!

Ahahahahahahaha. Oh this made my day.

Scores from this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from this weekend?

API scores?

What teams are playing in the Koopers league?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from this weekend?

API scores?

Cannons are in Premier League this week and Fca the next

No scores posted.

Nobody cares about that league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody cares about that league.

Except for the people that do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody cares about that league.

Let me guess, your son is not playing in it? That league is doing a great job feeling out the competition out there and invited good teams to come compete in friendly games .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from this weekend?

API scores?

Cannons are in Premier League this week and Fca the next

No scores posted.

Cannons lost more players to the Hawks. They take another step backwards should drop down to the B division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from this weekend?

API scores?

Cannons are in Premier League this week and Fca the next

No scores posted.

Cannons lost more players to the Hawks. They take another step backwards should drop down to the B division.

Cannons are still a good team. They beat the dbacks last summer.

All the teams in that league are terrible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from this weekend?

API scores?

Cannons are in Premier League this week and Fca the next

No scores posted.

Cannons lost more players to the Hawks. They take another step backwards should drop down to the B division.

Cannons are still a good team. They beat the dbacks last summer.

There are still a handful of AA Players on the Cannons. Not sure why a AA player would want to play against A Teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from this weekend?

API scores?

Cannons are in Premier League this week and Fca the next

No scores posted.

Cannons lost more players to the Hawks. They take another step backwards should drop down to the B division.

Cannons are still a good team. They beat the dbacks last summer.

There are still a handful of AA Players on the Cannons. Not sure why a AA player would want to play against A Teams.

Cannons are a very good team.

Score update?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from this weekend?

API scores?

Cannons are in Premier League this week and Fca the next

No scores posted.

Cannons lost more players to the Hawks. They take another step backwards should drop down to the B division.

Cannons are still a good team. They beat the dbacks last summer.

Everyone beat them last summer.

Crabs over Rough Riders in double OT in goals box league semis. 9-8.

Crabs vs Hawks in Championship next week.

Ha - watch the Crabs show up with some "new" players for the Championship.

Hawks are clearly the best 2022 team today. Larger core of A players and more continuity among them. It will be interesting to see how things pan out next summer as players jockey for inclusion into Maverick and the other 8th grade summer showcases.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha - watch the Crabs show up with some "new" players for the Championship.

Started with a new goalie yesterday.

LOL, Goalie has been with the team since the early fall. Indoor rosters are fluid with ski trips, wrestling and basketball games, etc creating conflicts. I am thinking about adding my diminutive D1 commit son to his younger brother's roster to tip the scales.....Haha.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha - watch the Crabs show up with some "new" players for the Championship.

Started with a new goalie yesterday.

They already did last night at Goals. I would bet several players last night were from their 2021 team, that is how the Crab organization works. Do anything, and I mean anything, to win. Violate rules/guidelines, bring in older players from their other teams. I have watched this organization for over 4 years and it is a disgusting club, with a disgusting leader, Ryan McClernan. But wait, there will now be all kinds of pushback that they do not cheat, they play by the rules blah blah blah. Only one thing to say to that, bullsh*t.
My son doesn't play for RR, but I watched both games between RR and Crabs and have seen Crabs a few other times this year at Goals. Last night, there were clearly players that were not playing on Crabs earlier this year. Keep it up McClernan, your moto, win at all cost is making you and your organization a bigger shi*hole than it already is.

Typical Crabs cheating. No surprise there. The Hawks coach is a nut - he will call them on it. Roster check please.

Incredible, there's gambling going on here..... I love it. While they're on the roster check, do a parent sanity check. Or a coach sanity check. Lots of failing grades all the way around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical Crabs cheating. No surprise there. The Hawks coach is a nut - he will call them on it. Roster check please.

Hawks coach is intense. Miss around if you want.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Incredible, there's gambling going on here..... I love it. While they're on the roster check, do a parent sanity check. Or a coach sanity check. Lots of failing grades all the way around.

Congrats, you have won the "dumbest post of 2017" award. And imagine, it's only Jan 23rd. First things first, a sanity check needs to be done on you. You are lacking in that area.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical Crabs cheating. No surprise there. The Hawks coach is a nut - he will call them on it. Roster check please.

Hawks coach is intense. Miss around if you want.

Hawks better bring their roster also. Then all of Maryland will see how many holdback kids they really have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical Crabs cheating. No surprise there. The Hawks coach is a nut - he will call them on it. Roster check please.

Hawks coach is intense. Miss around if you want.

Hawks better bring their roster also. Then all of Maryland will see how many holdback kids they really have.

Every team should be ready for a roster check every game. So the sore loser dads can stop coming on here a crying about teams cheating. Funny how that works. Every parent from Hawks and Crabs teams are cheaters! Sad commentary from sad parents who wish their kid was in one of those programs or teams.
Lets not pretend that your kids club and every other club team doesn't have a holdback. The system with the age and grade makes it so. Right or wrong those are the parameters set by the club teams.
Trying argument from bitter parents.

You clearly have it out for Hawks . I guess you have not seen much of this team over the past 4 years. Any one who has knows . Basically the same kids with maybe 3,4 new players each year. Core of team the same . MY bet is your kids team has more holdbacks than the Hawks and the Crabs.

Classic hatred for the 2 Top teams in a Championship . All the bitter dads have to have a place to vent . They can't tell their wife they are on an anonymous site trash talking clubs , teams and calling kids cheaters. That would just confirm her suspicions . They can't yell, scream or talk to their kid because kid already is embarrassed by them .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic hatred for the 2 Top teams in a Championship . All the bitter dads have to have a place to vent . They can't tell their wife they are on an anonymous site trash talking clubs , teams and calling kids cheaters. That would just confirm her suspicions . They can't yell, scream or talk to their kid because kid already is embarrassed by them .

Actually the Rough Riders had a better season than the Crabs and were #2 seed. Crabs "upset" Rough Riders in playoffs. Crabs were only 3-4 during the season. Rough Riders were 7-1.

Crabs one of the best is laughable. Hawks coach has truck painted entirely in line-x. You be the judge...

RR parent here and doubt that any of the comments directed to the Hawks or Crabs are coming from our team. Our kids got outplayed, no excuses. Good luck in the championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs one of the best is laughable. Hawks coach has truck painted entirely in line-x. You be the judge...

Classic Troll post. Put a son (or 2 or 3) in D1 or much less start on a top 4 MIAA squad and then post. Until then, stay in your hole.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic hatred for the 2 Top teams in a Championship . All the bitter dads have to have a place to vent . They can't tell their wife they are on an anonymous site trash talking clubs , teams and calling kids cheaters. That would just confirm her suspicions . They can't yell, scream or talk to their kid because kid already is embarrassed by them .

Yes RR is a Top Team without question. Just not in the Championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic hatred for the 2 Top teams in a Championship . All the bitter dads have to have a place to vent . They can't tell their wife they are on an anonymous site trash talking clubs , teams and calling kids cheaters. That would just confirm her suspicions . They can't yell, scream or talk to their kid because kid already is embarrassed by them .

Yes RR is a Top Team without question. Just not in the Championship.

My son has played against RR 2022 quite a few times and they are a good team, well coached and play the game fairly. Unfortunately they had one bad game in the Goals box league and it came at the wrong time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic hatred for the 2 Top teams in a Championship . All the bitter dads have to have a place to vent . They can't tell their wife they are on an anonymous site trash talking clubs , teams and calling kids cheaters. That would just confirm her suspicions . They can't yell, scream or talk to their kid because kid already is embarrassed by them .

Yes RR is a Top Team without question. Just not in the Championship.

My son has played against RR 2022 quite a few times and they are a good team, well coached and play the game fairly. Unfortunately they had one bad game in the Goals box league and it came at the wrong time.

The Cannon 2022 team won the league last year. I wonder why they didn't play this year. Would have liked to watch a Hawks vs Cannons game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic hatred for the 2 Top teams in a Championship . All the bitter dads have to have a place to vent . They can't tell their wife they are on an anonymous site trash talking clubs , teams and calling kids cheaters. That would just confirm her suspicions . They can't yell, scream or talk to their kid because kid already is embarrassed by them .

Yes RR is a Top Team without question. Just not in the Championship.

My son has played against RR 2022 quite a few times and they are a good team, well coached and play the game fairly. Unfortunately they had one bad game in the Goals box league and it came at the wrong time.

The Cannon 2022 team won the league last year. I wonder why they didn't play this year. Would have liked to watch a Hawks vs Cannons game.

Cannons were not in this league last year , either was the hawks or crabs. RR won the league

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic hatred for the 2 Top teams in a Championship . All the bitter dads have to have a place to vent . They can't tell their wife they are on an anonymous site trash talking clubs , teams and calling kids cheaters. That would just confirm her suspicions . They can't yell, scream or talk to their kid because kid already is embarrassed by them .

Yes RR is a Top Team without question. Just not in the Championship.

My son has played against RR 2022 quite a few times and they are a good team, well coached and play the game fairly. Unfortunately they had one bad game in the Goals box league and it came at the wrong time.

The Cannon 2022 team won the league last year. I wonder why they didn't play this year. Would have liked to watch a Hawks vs Cannons game.

Cannons were not in this league last year , either was the hawks or crabs. RR won the league

Cannons were in the league and beat RR in final in 2016.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic hatred for the 2 Top teams in a Championship . All the bitter dads have to have a place to vent . They can't tell their wife they are on an anonymous site trash talking clubs , teams and calling kids cheaters. That would just confirm her suspicions . They can't yell, scream or talk to their kid because kid already is embarrassed by them .

Yes RR is a Top Team without question. Just not in the Championship.

My son has played against RR 2022 quite a few times and they are a good team, well coached and play the game fairly. Unfortunately they had one bad game in the Goals box league and it came at the wrong time.

The Cannon 2022 team won the league last year. I wonder why they didn't play this year. Would have liked to watch a Hawks vs Cannons game.

Cannons were not in this league last year , either was the hawks or crabs. RR won the league

Cannons won Goals last year. Played the RR in the Championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classic hatred for the 2 Top teams in a Championship . All the bitter dads have to have a place to vent . They can't tell their wife they are on an anonymous site trash talking clubs , teams and calling kids cheaters. That would just confirm her suspicions . They can't yell, scream or talk to their kid because kid already is embarrassed by them .

Yes RR is a Top Team without question. Just not in the Championship.

My son has played against RR 2022 quite a few times and they are a good team, well coached and play the game fairly. Unfortunately they had one bad game in the Goals box league and it came at the wrong time.

The Cannon 2022 team won the league last year. I wonder why they didn't play this year. Would have liked to watch a Hawks vs Cannons game.

Cannons were not in this league last year , either was the hawks or crabs. RR won the league

Cannons won Goals last year. Played the RR in the Championship.

RR are confused

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes RR is a Top Team without question. Just not in the Championship.

My son has played against RR 2022 quite a few times and they are a good team, well coached and play the game fairly. Unfortunately they had one bad game in the Goals box league and it came at the wrong time.

The Cannon 2022 team won the league last year. I wonder why they didn't play this year. Would have liked to watch a Hawks vs Cannons game.

Cannons were not in this league last year , either was the hawks or crabs. RR won the league

Cannons won Goals last year. Played the RR in the Championship.

RR are confused

Not confused. We lost to Cannons. Some troll is causing the confusion.

RR lost to Cannons in championship game in double OT last year. Tough luck in OT two years in a row for RR

Line-X rules!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha - watch the Crabs show up with some "new" players for the Championship.

Started with a new goalie yesterday.

So both teams will have old goalies now!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RR lost to Cannons in championship game in double OT last year. Tough luck in OT two years in a row for RR

You learn from it and move on. It's indoor lacrosse, people. It is meant to keep players playing in the off season. Rosters change game to game because of other winter sports commitments. You all need to settle down and move on. Spring practices in a month. Get excited and start getting focused instead of crying so much. Again, it's indoor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RR lost to Cannons in championship game in double OT last year. Tough luck in OT two years in a row for RR

You learn from it and move on. It's indoor lacrosse, people. It is meant to keep players playing in the off season. Rosters change game to game because of other winter sports commitments. You all need to settle down and move on. Spring practices in a month. Get excited and start getting focused instead of crying so much. Again, it's indoor.

You must be a daddy that is not in indoor . It matters to the teams and players who are playing and it doesn't matter if its indoor , outdoor , fiddle , basement or back yard. Yes , spring is right around the corner but until then its indoor and it is exciting for those that are in it.
So come back on here in the spring and summer with your negative gibber and complaining because your kid is still losing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are clearly the best 2022 team today. Larger core of A players and more continuity among them. It will be interesting to see how things pan out next summer as players jockey for inclusion into Maverick and the other 8th grade summer showcases.

What does that mean? It will pan out the way it is supposed too. Players that are good enough will be selected into the half a dozen elite camps and the half a dozen recruiting camps across the country. Players will continue to play for their club though out the year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RR lost to Cannons in championship game in double OT last year. Tough luck in OT two years in a row for RR

You learn from it and move on. It's indoor lacrosse, people. It is meant to keep players playing in the off season. Rosters change game to game because of other winter sports commitments. You all need to settle down and move on. Spring practices in a month. Get excited and start getting focused instead of crying so much. Again, it's indoor.

You must be a daddy that is not in indoor . It matters to the teams and players who are playing and it doesn't matter if its indoor , outdoor , fiddle , basement or back yard. Yes , spring is right around the corner but until then its indoor and it is exciting for those that are in it.
So come back on here in the spring and summer with your negative gibber and complaining because your kid is still losing.

Spring leagues and summer tournaments are all that matter. Indoor box league at Goals is for fun and to keep a stick in the kids hands. To get all excited like you are is way over the top. It indoor WINTER box, nothing more and nothing less. No one is showing any negative gibber, as you put it, but no one other that you seems to be over the top with this winter stuff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RR lost to Cannons in championship game in double OT last year. Tough luck in OT two years in a row for RR

You learn from it and move on. It's indoor lacrosse, people. It is meant to keep players playing in the off season. Rosters change game to game because of other winter sports commitments. You all need to settle down and move on. Spring practices in a month. Get excited and start getting focused instead of crying so much. Again, it's indoor.

You must be a daddy that is not in indoor . It matters to the teams and players who are playing and it doesn't matter if its indoor , outdoor , fiddle , basement or back yard. Yes , spring is right around the corner but until then its indoor and it is exciting for those that are in it.
So come back on here in the spring and summer with your negative gibber and complaining because your kid is still losing.

Spring leagues and summer tournaments are all that matter. Indoor box league at Goals is for fun and to keep a stick in the kids hands. To get all excited like you are is way over the top. It indoor WINTER box, nothing more and nothing less. No one is showing any negative gibber, as you put it, but no one other that you seems to be over the top with this winter stuff.

Well a certain person who shall remain nameless ..that has a website on recruiting and early recruits ..could have been at some of the games...just saying...A shout out by certain people goes a long way..indoor or not! Keep it real people! eye on the prize!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RR lost to Cannons in championship game in double OT last year. Tough luck in OT two years in a row for RR

You learn from it and move on. It's indoor lacrosse, people. It is meant to keep players playing in the off season. Rosters change game to game because of other winter sports commitments. You all need to settle down and move on. Spring practices in a month. Get excited and start getting focused instead of crying so much. Again, it's indoor.

You must be a daddy that is not in indoor . It matters to the teams and players who are playing and it doesn't matter if its indoor , outdoor , fiddle , basement or back yard. Yes , spring is right around the corner but until then its indoor and it is exciting for those that are in it.
So come back on here in the spring and summer with your negative gibber and complaining because your kid is still losing.

Spring leagues and summer tournaments are all that matter. Indoor box league at Goals is for fun and to keep a stick in the kids hands. To get all excited like you are is way over the top. It indoor WINTER box, nothing more and nothing less. No one is showing any negative gibber, as you put it, but no one other that you seems to be over the top with this winter stuff.

Well a certain person who shall remain nameless ..that has a website on recruiting and early recruits ..could have been at some of the games...just saying...A shout out by certain people goes a long way..indoor or not! Keep it real people! eye on the prize!

. You can't be referring to Ty Xanders could you? If you are, think about who pays him, how does he make his money. He shouldn't be taken too seriously because most college coaches don't. They know how to find top recruite's without any help/assistance from Ty. And college coaches would not be looking at 2022's, they are just starting to look at 2021's.

Preliminary Hoco Divisions

2022 ELITE ------------
Crabs
Hawks
Team 91
API
Rough Riders
FCA
Madlax
Bethesda
Cannons

2022 AA -----------
Club Blue
Lax Factory
VLC
Thunder
3D Select
Next Level

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RR lost to Cannons in championship game in double OT last year. Tough luck in OT two years in a row for RR

You learn from it and move on. It's indoor lacrosse, people. It is meant to keep players playing in the off season. Rosters change game to game because of other winter sports commitments. You all need to settle down and move on. Spring practices in a month. Get excited and start getting focused instead of crying so much. Again, it's indoor.

You must be a daddy that is not in indoor . It matters to the teams and players who are playing and it doesn't matter if its indoor , outdoor , fiddle , basement or back yard. Yes , spring is right around the corner but until then its indoor and it is exciting for those that are in it.
So come back on here in the spring and summer with your negative gibber and complaining because your kid is still losing.

Spring leagues and summer tournaments are all that matter. Indoor box league at Goals is for fun and to keep a stick in the kids hands. To get all excited like you are is way over the top. It indoor WINTER box, nothing more and nothing less. No one is showing any negative gibber, as you put it, but no one other that you seems to be over the top with this winter stuff.

Well a certain person who shall remain nameless ..that has a website on recruiting and early recruits ..could have been at some of the games...just saying...A shout out by certain people goes a long way..indoor or not! Keep it real people! eye on the prize!

. You can't be referring to Ty Xanders could you? If you are, think about who pays him, how does he make his money. He shouldn't be taken too seriously because most college coaches don't. They know how to find top recruite's without any help/assistance from Ty. And college coaches would not be looking at 2022's, they are just starting to look at 2021's.

Whether it is Ty or someone else, there is no better place to evaluate how kids work in tight spaces than Box and Goals Baltimore is the best league to gauge that. Goals has a good thing going and all teams that participated got better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody cares about that league.

Let me guess, your son is not playing in it? That league is doing a great job feeling out the competition out there and invited good teams to come compete in friendly games .

DMV Premier League has excellent competition, but they really need to paint a crease on that floor if they are going to call crease violations.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Preliminary Hoco Divisions

2022 ELITE ------------
Crabs
Hawks
Team 91
API
Rough Riders
FCA
Madlax
Bethesda
Cannons

2022 AA -----------
Club Blue
Lax Factory
VLC
Thunder
3D Select
Next Level

Where did you find this info?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Preliminary Hoco Divisions

2022 ELITE ------------
Crabs
Hawks
Team 91
API
Rough Riders
FCA
Madlax
Bethesda
Cannons

2022 AA -----------
Club Blue
Lax Factory
VLC
Thunder
3D Select
Next Level

A lot of teams off the preliminary list

KI Storm?
Koopers?
Looneys?
Team MD?
WolfPack?
Rock?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Preliminary Hoco Divisions

2022 ELITE ------------
Crabs
Hawks
Team 91
API
Rough Riders
FCA
Madlax
Bethesda
Cannons

2022 AA -----------
Club Blue
Lax Factory
VLC
Thunder
3D Select
Next Level

A lot of teams off the preliminary list

KI Storm?
Koopers?
Looneys?
Team MD?
WolfPack?
Rock?

2022 A -----------
Greene Turtle
HoCo
FCA
Kooper's
Peninsula
Wolfpack
Looney's
Bethesda
Rock
Cavalier

2022 B -----------
Hereford
Madlax
MD Extreme
Zingos
Revolution
Team 42
Green Hornets
Peninsula
Lax World
Next Level
Starz
Fallston
Breakers
Rockfish
Sidewinders
Gonzo
Maryland Wild

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Preliminary Hoco Divisions

2022 ELITE ------------
Crabs
Hawks
Team 91
API
Rough Riders
FCA
Madlax
Bethesda
Cannons

2022 AA -----------
Club Blue
Lax Factory
VLC
Thunder
3D Select
Next Level

A lot of teams off the preliminary list

KI Storm?
Koopers?
Looneys?
Team MD?
WolfPack?
Rock?

2022 A -----------
Greene Turtle
HoCo
FCA
Kooper's
Peninsula
Wolfpack
Looney's
Bethesda
Rock
Cavalier

2022 B -----------
Hereford
Madlax
MD Extreme
Zingos
Revolution
Team 42
Green Hornets
Peninsula
Lax World
Next Level
Starz
Fallston
Breakers
Rockfish
Sidewinders
Gonzo
Maryland Wild

No storm?

Goals update?

Hawks 21
Crabs 14

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks 21
Crabs 14

Congrats to the Hawks. Spring season is near.

Always nice to see the Crabs take a beating. Wonder how may kids they added to the roster for the championship? Cheaters through and through...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Always nice to see the Crabs take a beating. Wonder how may kids they added to the roster for the championship? Cheaters through and through...

Do you feel better getting that out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Always nice to see the Crabs take a beating. Wonder how may kids they added to the roster for the championship? Cheaters through and through...

I don't think the Crabs added anyone. The score was about the same as the second time the Hawks and Crabs played. The 1st time they played, the Crabs were caught off guard and without their goalie.

Of course - excuses from the Crabs. Goalie wasn't there, middie was hurt, it was raining, Johnny was at wrestling...

Guess the guys running their mouth were not at the game. Or at any of the games and just hates the crabs.

Last nights game was good and very entertaining , both teams are very good.
Crabs showed a lot of toughness and grit to stay in the game . Hawks looked like they do every week. Very good. Both goalies played terrific

Only a matter of time before the 2022 Crabs roster is filled with 21s and a 20 or two. Shameful organization....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only a matter of time before the 2022 Crabs roster is filled with 21s and a 20 or two. Shameful organization....

You had to get that out at 5:30 in the morning? Look around, there are 2022 teams with more holdbacks than Crabs.

I'm a surgeon - I'm up early. I've had two kids play in the MD competitive club lacrosse scene. I know how the fat crab rolls. You will see a mass migration of 21s to the 22 team shortly. Remember the stunt they pulled against 91 at Beach Lax a couple of years ago? How did they do in Denver at the WSYL when they couldn't play their holdbacks? They got destroyed on national tv. No - no other team has more holdbacks or encourages holding your kid back like Crabs.

Madlax has more holdbacks than anone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm a surgeon - I'm up early. I've had two kids play in the MD competitive club lacrosse scene. I know how the fat crab rolls. You will see a mass migration of 21s to the 22 team shortly. Remember the stunt they pulled against 91 at Beach Lax a couple of years ago? How did they do in Denver at the WSYL when they couldn't play their holdbacks? They got destroyed on national tv. No - no other team has more holdbacks or encourages holding your kid back like Crabs.

Go back to sleep, Doc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm a surgeon - I'm up early. I've had two kids play in the MD competitive club lacrosse scene. I know how the fat crab rolls. You will see a mass migration of 21s to the 22 team shortly. Remember the stunt they pulled against 91 at Beach Lax a couple of years ago? How did they do in Denver at the WSYL when they couldn't play their holdbacks? They got destroyed on national tv. No - no other team has more holdbacks or encourages holding your kid back like Crabs.

The blame likely lies at the feet of McDonogh, Boys Latin, Loyola, etc.

If there is any chance your kid is not going to come in to the school getting straight As, they recommend repeating 8th grade to get the kid up to speed on the school curriculum so that their transcript for college is as good as it can possibly be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm a surgeon - I'm up early. I've had two kids play in the MD competitive club lacrosse scene. I know how the fat crab rolls. You will see a mass migration of 21s to the 22 team shortly. Remember the stunt they pulled against 91 at Beach Lax a couple of years ago? How did they do in Denver at the WSYL when they couldn't play their holdbacks? They got destroyed on national tv. No - no other team has more holdbacks or encourages holding your kid back like Crabs.

The blame likely lies at the feet of McDonogh, Boys Latin, Loyola, etc.

If there is any chance your kid is not going to come in to the school getting straight As, they recommend repeating 8th grade to get the kid up to speed on the school curriculum so that their transcript for college is as good as it can possibly be.

You are full of sh*t, plain and simple. Period.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm a surgeon - I'm up early. I've had two kids play in the MD competitive club lacrosse scene. I know how the fat crab rolls. You will see a mass migration of 21s to the 22 team shortly. Remember the stunt they pulled against 91 at Beach Lax a couple of years ago? How did they do in Denver at the WSYL when they couldn't play their holdbacks? They got destroyed on national tv. No - no other team has more holdbacks or encourages holding your kid back like Crabs.

The blame likely lies at the feet of McDonogh, Boys Latin, Loyola, etc.

If there is any chance your kid is not going to come in to the school getting straight As, they recommend repeating 8th grade to get the kid up to speed on the school curriculum so that their transcript for college is as good as it can possibly be.

Even if that were true, which it isn't, then the blame lies at the feet of the inferior public school system for not teaching and caring about their students. Just pass them along to the next grade, can't be bothered with slower or need help students. Now that is the truth.

Sounds spot on to me

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm a surgeon - I'm up early. I've had two kids play in the MD competitive club lacrosse scene. I know how the fat crab rolls. You will see a mass migration of 21s to the 22 team shortly. Remember the stunt they pulled against 91 at Beach Lax a couple of years ago? How did they do in Denver at the WSYL when they couldn't play their holdbacks? They got destroyed on national tv. No - no other team has more holdbacks or encourages holding your kid back like Crabs.

Crabs isn't a school, Doctor. Clubs have tryouts. The best kids make the best teams. Schools and parents confer to make the best decisions for their students and kids as a separate matter. All the best teams are loaded with private school kids, mostly did prefirst, some held back in middle school eventually if didn't do prefirst. Rest assured the school curriculums and placements in the area private schools care zero about club lacrosse. Madlax, FCA, Crabs, Looney's, many others, check the rosters, many many private school players. It just is what it is, as much as you would like it to be some nefarious plot driven by the club lax overlords.

Parents drive this stupidity. My kid has to be a superstar lax player so I will pay an additional year of private school so he get a partial scholarship to college (maybe). So dumb. Merit boys and girls. Invest that extra year of private school and you can pay for an entire year of college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents drive this stupidity. My kid has to be a superstar lax player so I will pay an additional year of private school so he get a partial scholarship to college (maybe). So dumb. Merit boys and girls. Invest that extra year of private school and you can pay for an entire year of college.

So you are so obsessed with this topic that you believe private schools educators talk parents into the prefirst curriculum because of sports. 6 year olds that may not even play sports yet? Perhaps it is because they want the best education, and let's face it, the government is not the gold standard for success.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents drive this stupidity. My kid has to be a superstar lax player so I will pay an additional year of private school so he get a partial scholarship to college (maybe). So dumb. Merit boys and girls. Invest that extra year of private school and you can pay for an entire year of college.

Very True. Unfortunately universities love these kids.

Nothing like being a 20 year old freshman.

I guess you missed EXTRA year. You must have gone to Calvert hall.

Its not hard to be the best when you are 16 in the 8th grade playing against 13 year olds. 2020 Crabs middie in HOCO last spring was 16 years old.

Crabs and organizations like them teach kids that if they aren't good enough to compete with kids their own age - no problem - just drop down a grade and play against your brother's friends and you too can get a 10% scholarship to college.

If its not a nefarious plot why are the competitive club owners fighting the change to go age based? Because by playing older kids they gain an unfair advantage which gets more of their kids recruited - which ultimately puts more money in their pocket.

They better bring on the 2021's to the team in addition to the ones they have now if they want to compete at this age group this spring and summer.

Enough talk about Crabs. What's going on over at FCA? I heard they improved but I haven't seen them play anywhere. Are they the team to beat?

They look pretty good driving up in their cars with the fish on the back. Jesus would be proud.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough talk about Crabs. What's going on over at FCA? I heard they improved but I haven't seen them play anywhere. Are they the team to beat?

Depends on who they are playing against.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough talk about Crabs. What's going on over at FCA? I heard they improved but I haven't seen them play anywhere. Are they the team to beat?

Depends on who they are playing against.

They played in the DMV premeir league last weekend. Any update on how they did?

It is a [lacrosse] of a lot easier to get an academic scholarship than it is to get an athletic one. Think about that while you are proposing all of these ridiculous reasons to explain why your kid can't get on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is a [lacrosse] of a lot easier to get an academic scholarship than it is to get an athletic one. Think about that while you are proposing all of these ridiculous reasons to explain why your kid can't get on the field.

If you are really poor.

Rich kids get merit. It is the only money available if you are north of 250k. Or 100k for that matter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rich kids get merit. It is the only money available if you are north of 250k. Or 100k for that matter

Very little merit money. Lots of need money.

Admissions is all about grades regardless.

Lacrosse has very little athletic money.

Advice and fact: spend the private lesson, equipment, camp, club lax fees on academic tutoring and watch the benefits roll in

Peace

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rich kids get merit. It is the only money available if you are north of 250k. Or 100k for that matter

Very little merit money. Lots of need money.

Admissions is all about grades regardless.

Lacrosse has very little athletic money.

There are a lot of exceptions out there. Great players get exceptions even from the Ivy League schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Advice and fact: spend the private lesson, equipment, camp, club lax fees on academic tutoring and watch the benefits roll in

Peace

Watching tests - boring
Watching lacrosse - fun

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Advice and fact: spend the private lesson, equipment, camp, club lax fees on academic tutoring and watch the benefits roll in

Peace

Watching tests - boring
Watching lacrosse - fun

idiot

Disagree, If you kid has over a 3.8 gpa and hits over a 1280 on his SAT you have plenty of Merit. Really is the only way for the middle or upper middle class to get any help.

Yes and it's cool too right
I feel sad for your child
Perhaps he will become a youth Rec coach and work at Walmart
Not that's anything wrong with that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and it's cool too right
I feel sad for your child
Perhaps he will become a youth Rec coach and work at Walmart
Not that's anything wrong with that

Tolerant left. Insult someone you disagree with, then close out with a clarifying statement that you don't mean it in regards to anyone else that may get their feelings hurt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and it's cool too right
I feel sad for your child
Perhaps he will become a youth Rec coach and work at Walmart
Not that's anything wrong with that

Tolerant left. Insult someone you disagree with, then close out with a clarifying statement that you don't mean it in regards to anyone else that may get their feelings hurt.

Well your Boy the orange bandit is the king of not being PC so the left just followed his lead and lead with insults now. Its the new Great America you all wanted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and it's cool too right
I feel sad for your child
Perhaps he will become a youth Rec coach and work at Walmart
Not that's anything wrong with that

Very insulting to the countless people that have volunteered their time coaching rec lacrosse and passed on the fundamentals and love of the game without asking anything in return. Very sad. The sorrow, ma'am, is all directed back to you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and it's cool too right
I feel sad for your child
Perhaps he will become a youth Rec coach and work at Walmart
Not that's anything wrong with that

With his gpa and SAT scores he could teach you how to form a sentence Francis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and it's cool too right
I feel sad for your child
Perhaps he will become a youth Rec coach and work at Walmart
Not that's anything wrong with that

Tolerant left. Insult someone you disagree with, then close out with a clarifying statement that you don't mean it in regards to anyone else that may get their feelings hurt.

Well your Boy the orange bandit is the king of not being PC so the left just followed his lead and lead with insults now. Its the new Great America you all wanted.

Did you just use the "you did it first" argument as an adult? Have you no pride? So by that rationale, we were correct and should have won, as you were ready to follow the lead anyway.

Millon 2022 National Championship went from 16 to 20 teams. Do I hear 24, 32?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon 2022 National Championship went from 16 to 20 teams. Do I hear 24, 32?

Cha ching cha ching $$$$$$$$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Disagree, If you kid has over a 3.8 gpa and hits over a 1280 on his SAT you have plenty of Merit. Really is the only way for the middle or upper middle class to get any help.

Wrong

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon 2022 National Championship went from 16 to 20 teams. Do I hear 24, 32?

Who was added?

Edge, so cal express, No greyhounds and palm beach revolution.

I didnt know Team 9 plus 1 MD features players on their website as young as 2024. Wow..thats a young player to feature. I thought featured players were HS players.

Predicted Hoco Finish
Hawks
Team 9d1
API
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Cannons

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predicted Hoco Finish
Hawks
Team 9d1
API
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Cannons

RR will finish in the Top 5

They have a very good team. Goallie is very good

Cannons should consider playing at the lower level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predicted Hoco Finish
Hawks
Team 9d1
API
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Cannons

RR will finish in the Top 5

They have a very good team. Goallie is very good

Cannons should consider playing at the lower level.

Cannons still solid. Almost same team that beat API last summer at Madlax Capital.

They lost two of their big players..

Hawks won again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They lost two of their big players..

I believe they only lost one but he was one of their best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks won again

What did they win?

Game or
Player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks won again

What did they win?

Game or
Player?

Beat BLC and 2021 next level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predicted Hoco Finish
Hawks
Team 9d1
API
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Cannons

RR will finish in the Top 5

They have a very good team. Goallie is very good

Cannons should consider playing at the lower level.

Cannons still solid. Almost same team that beat API last summer at Madlax Capital.

Are the Cannons really hanging thier hat on beating API? They went 1-5 in the league last year. Beat the storm?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predicted Hoco Finish
Hawks
Team 9d1
API
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Cannons

Really it's the Hawks and then everyone else.

Hawks

then the next five or seven can compete with each other on any given day

9+1
FCA
Madlax
API
Crabs
BLC
RR

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predicted Hoco Finish
Hawks
Team 9d1
API
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Cannons

RR will finish in the Top 5

They have a very good team. Goallie is very good

Cannons should consider playing at the lower level.

Cannons still solid. Almost same team that beat API last summer at Madlax Capital.

Are the Cannons really hanging thier hat on beating API? They went 1-5 in the league last year. Beat the storm?

All most everyone beat API last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didnt know Team 9 plus 1 MD features players on their website as young as 2024. Wow..thats a young player to feature. I thought featured players were HS players.

I believe they do the Feature Playersas a cool thing to do for the young players . I do not think they do it as a Star Player thing.

Hawks will choke like last year when they lost to RR in that rain storm. I wouldn't count any team out from beating them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predicted Hoco Finish
Hawks
Team 9d1
API
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Cannons

Really it's the Hawks and then everyone else.

Hawks

then the next five or seven can compete with each other on any given day

9+1
FCA
Madlax
API
Crabs
BLC
RR

Really. Get over yourself, I predict that Hawks will implode this year, they are way too full of themselves and that, I believe, is coming from the parents and their coach. Plus there are a few holdbacks on their 2022 team. Don't really care if you deny it, many know it is true, so either fess up or shut up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks will choke like last year when they lost to RR in that rain storm. I wouldn't count any team out from beating them.

6th graders losing one game to a good team isn't choking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predicted Hoco Finish
Hawks
Team 9d1
API
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Cannons

Really it's the Hawks and then everyone else.

Hawks

then the next five or seven can compete with each other on any given day

9+1
FCA
Madlax
API
Crabs
BLC
RR

Really. Get over yourself, I predict that Hawks will implode this year, they are way too full of themselves and that, I believe, is coming from the parents and their coach. Plus there are a few holdbacks on their 2022 team. Don't really care if you deny it, many know it is true, so either fess up or shut up.

Who doesn't have hold backs? Kids are held back for many reasons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks will choke like last year when they lost to RR in that rain storm. I wouldn't count any team out from beating them.

One game. Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predicted Hoco Finish
Hawks
Team 9d1
API
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Cannons

Really it's the Hawks and then everyone else.

Hawks

then the next five or seven can compete with each other on any given day

9+1
FCA
Madlax
API
Crabs
BLC
RR

Really. Get over yourself, I predict that Hawks will implode this year, they are way too full of themselves and that, I believe, is coming from the parents and their coach. Plus there are a few holdbacks on their 2022 team. Don't really care if you deny it, many know it is true, so either fess up or shut up.

Who doesn't have hold backs? Kids are held back for many reasons.

But not for the reasons Hawks players are. Stop with the weak excuses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks will choke like last year when they lost to RR in that rain storm. I wouldn't count any team out from beating them.

One game. Lol

You are an idiot. LOL!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predicted Hoco Finish
Hawks
Team 9d1
API
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Cannons

Really it's the Hawks and then everyone else.

Hawks

then the next five or seven can compete with each other on any given day

9+1
FCA
Madlax
API
Crabs
BLC
RR

Really. Get over yourself, I predict that Hawks will implode this year, they are way too full of themselves and that, I believe, is coming from the parents and their coach. Plus there are a few holdbacks on their 2022 team. Don't really care if you deny it, many know it is true, so either fess up or shut up.

I'm not a parent of a Hawks player, but rather one with a kid on one of the other team's listed.. Trust me, the Hawks are the best 2022 team in the area. No disrespect to the other clubs, just being honest.

API / DIAMONDBACKS IS THE ONLY ELITE TEAM IN THE AREA THAT DOES'NT HAVE HOLD BACKS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API / DIAMONDBACKS IS THE ONLY ELITE TEAM IN THE AREA THAT DOES'NT HAVE HOLD BACKS.

Good luck this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API / DIAMONDBACKS IS THE ONLY ELITE TEAM IN THE AREA THAT DOES'NT HAVE HOLD BACKS.

Elite in 3rd grade years ago maybe as a middle school team not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API / DIAMONDBACKS IS THE ONLY ELITE TEAM IN THE AREA THAT DOES'NT HAVE HOLD BACKS.

Elite in 3rd grade years ago maybe as a middle school team not so much.

Not an API dad, but they are still in the top tier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API / DIAMONDBACKS IS THE ONLY ELITE TEAM IN THE AREA THAT DOES'NT HAVE HOLD BACKS.

Elite in 3rd grade years ago maybe as a middle school team not so much.

Not an API dad, but they are still in the top tier.

Dbacks are the Hobart of 7th grade lacrosse. Playing against D1 teams by D3 rules.

I wouldn't count API out . They are always tuff to play .

Tough (ugh)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wouldn't count API out . They are always tuff to play .

Unlimited access to indoor is a huge plus for API.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wouldn't count API out . They are always tuff to play .

Unlimited access to indoor is a huge plus for API.

The coaching is a huge minus for API.

Facility or no facility, API has marginal talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wouldn't count API out . They are always tuff to play .

Unlimited access to indoor is a huge plus for API.

The coaching is a huge minus for API.

Hey! That's somebody's father you're talking about!

The only problem with the team is the crazy head coach. Such a jerk. How do parents let their child play for such a crazed lunatic?

If they can't make Hawks, what choice do they have?

Most those kids could make the hawks and any other team in md. The coach is a great guy but very passionate. Plus name me one coach at 2022 Who isn't a passionate lunatic

Any updates from this weekend box games

I guess your kids Coach is a Saint? Parents let their kids play for him because he wins. They won last year a lot and before last year they won almost everything for 3 straight years. You might find 1-if that 2022 Coach that has won more than that guy since this age group started 4 years ago.With basically the same team year after year. So if he is the problem with team well thats a good problem to have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess your kids Coach is a Saint? Parents let their kids play for him because he wins. They won last year a lot and before last year they won almost everything for 3 straight years. You might find 1-if that 2022 Coach that has won more than that guy since this age group started 4 years ago.With basically the same team year after year. So if he is the problem with team well thats a good problem to have.

Still an [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess your kids Coach is a Saint? Parents let their kids play for him because he wins. They won last year a lot and before last year they won almost everything for 3 straight years. You might find 1-if that 2022 Coach that has won more than that guy since this age group started 4 years ago.With basically the same team year after year. So if he is the problem with team well thats a good problem to have.

All about the wins. At least he's honest.

Couple of weeks ago someone posted list of teams playing in Howard County spring league. Where did that info come from? And any update? Don't see anything on website yet. Thx.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess your kids Coach is a Saint? Parents let their kids play for him because he wins. They won last year a lot and before last year they won almost everything for 3 straight years. You might find 1-if that 2022 Coach that has won more than that guy since this age group started 4 years ago.With basically the same team year after year. So if he is the problem with team well thats a good problem to have.

All about the wins. At least he's honest.

Well if you want to win some games play for one team. If you want to develop and play at a higher level go play else where. Zone defense does not develop players

They play the best 2022 teams so I don't understand about a higher level. On defense they play man and also zone it depends on what team they are playing.

What are teams doing instead of St. Paul's league?

The teams that will be participating in the St. Pauls league will be the teams that can't win on Sundays in the HOCO league

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams that will be participating in the St. Pauls league will be the teams that can't win on Sundays in the HOCO league

Not exactly correct. There are several teams that play Sat. in the St. Pauls league and also play in HOCO on Sunday. Go look at last years schedules, they are still online.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams that will be participating in the St. Pauls league will be the teams that can't win on Sundays in the HOCO league

That was helpful. Thanks. Can someone with reading comprehension answer the question?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are teams doing instead of St. Paul's league?

They are only doing the hoco league and practicing on Saturdays.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess your kids Coach is a Saint? Parents let their kids play for him because he wins. They won last year a lot and before last year they won almost everything for 3 straight years. You might find 1-if that 2022 Coach that has won more than that guy since this age group started 4 years ago.With basically the same team year after year. So if he is the problem with team well thats a good problem to have.

All about the wins. At least he's honest.

Well if you want to win some games play for one team. If you want to develop and play at a higher level go play else where. Zone defense does not develop players

I take it you are talking about Arden playing Zone. I believe they play Zone and Man. Its good for the players to learn how to play both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess your kids Coach is a Saint? Parents let their kids play for him because he wins. They won last year a lot and before last year they won almost everything for 3 straight years. You might find 1-if that 2022 Coach that has won more than that guy since this age group started 4 years ago.With basically the same team year after year. So if he is the problem with team well thats a good problem to have.

All about the wins. At least he's honest.

Well if you want to win some games play for one team. If you want to develop and play at a higher level go play else where. Zone defense does not develop players

I take it you are talking about Arden playing Zone. I believe they play Zone and Man. Its good for the players to learn how to play both.

Whatever. There is no reason for a youth lacrosse team to play zone(other than trying to win). It teaches the kids nothing. It all depends on what your view of the purpose of youth lacrosse. If a college coach is there to watch a defensive player and he sees the team playing zone he will walk away. Seen it happen.

Trying to win? Appalling! Who would try to win a lacrosse game?! If you aren't trying to win games then just practice. That gets you better than a game. They are in 7th grade (6th last year) - any chance the kids can go out and have fun and compete and try to win. It's fun. Plenty of time on the practice field to improve their skills. And I am sure the talented kids at dbacks will have plenty of chances to see college coaches - when they are in HS. As will the talented Hawks kids, crabs kids and RR kids, etc. I really hope no college coaches were watching the 6th graders play. And I am not a dback dad or even a 2022 dad, but you guys have the most entertaining conversations so I couldn't resist.
Lastly, I am guessing all teams play their top players a little more in close games. Why? To win?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess your kids Coach is a Saint? Parents let their kids play for him because he wins. They won last year a lot and before last year they won almost everything for 3 straight years. You might find 1-if that 2022 Coach that has won more than that guy since this age group started 4 years ago.With basically the same team year after year. So if he is the problem with team well thats a good problem to have.

All about the wins. At least he's honest.

Well if you want to win some games play for one team. If you want to develop and play at a higher level go play else where. Zone defense does not develop players

I take it you are talking about Arden playing Zone. I believe they play Zone and Man. Its good for the players to learn how to play both.

Whatever. There is no reason for a youth lacrosse team to play zone(other than trying to win). It teaches the kids nothing. It all depends on what your view of the purpose of youth lacrosse. If a college coach is there to watch a defensive player and he sees the team playing zone he will walk away. Seen it happen.

What a bunch of BS. College teams run zone during the course of games. You have no idea what you are talking about. I've watched high level HS lacrosse teams run zone. It's called learning game IQ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess your kids Coach is a Saint? Parents let their kids play for him because he wins. They won last year a lot and before last year they won almost everything for 3 straight years. You might find 1-if that 2022 Coach that has won more than that guy since this age group started 4 years ago.With basically the same team year after year. So if he is the problem with team well thats a good problem to have.

All about the wins. At least he's honest.

Well if you want to win some games play for one team. If you want to develop and play at a higher level go play else where. Zone defense does not develop players

I take it you are talking about Arden playing Zone. I believe they play Zone and Man. Its good for the players to learn how to play both.

Whatever. There is no reason for a youth lacrosse team to play zone(other than trying to win). It teaches the kids nothing. It all depends on what your view of the purpose of youth lacrosse. If a college coach is there to watch a defensive player and he sees the team playing zone he will walk away. Seen it happen.

You haven't seen anything.

You play zone when you don't have the horses to play man. It doesn't require the individual skill that man to man does. Fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess your kids Coach is a Saint? Parents let their kids play for him because he wins. They won last year a lot and before last year they won almost everything for 3 straight years. You might find 1-if that 2022 Coach that has won more than that guy since this age group started 4 years ago.With basically the same team year after year. So if he is the problem with team well thats a good problem to have.

All about the wins. At least he's honest.

Well if you want to win some games play for one team. If you want to develop and play at a higher level go play else where. Zone defense does not develop players

I take it you are talking about Arden playing Zone. I believe they play Zone and Man. Its good for the players to learn how to play both.

Whatever. There is no reason for a youth lacrosse team to play zone(other than trying to win). It teaches the kids nothing. It all depends on what your view of the purpose of youth lacrosse. If a college coach is there to watch a defensive player and he sees the team playing zone he will walk away. Seen it happen.

What a bunch of BS. College teams run zone during the course of games. You have no idea what you are talking about. I've watched high level HS lacrosse teams run zone. It's called learning game IQ.

I didn't say colleges didn't play zone. I said that college coaches aren't going to sit and watch a defender if they are playing zone. You can't evaluate a player that way and it's a waste of their time.

Your talking about 7th graders! How many college coaches are watching 7th graders? Too much emphasis on recruiting in youth lacrosse. It should be about learning the game and trying to win the game. Being seen should not be the ultimate goal - especially for 7th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your talking about 7th graders! How many college coaches are watching 7th graders? Too much emphasis on recruiting in youth lacrosse. It should be about learning the game and trying to win the game. Being seen should not be the ultimate goal - especially for 7th graders.

Read an article on why zone is bad for youth basketball. The quote and list were interesting and applicable to youth lacrosse.

"A player that is taught man-to-man defense when they�re young will have a much easier transition to playing zone defense than a player who plays zone defense exclusively at a young age will have transitioning to a man-to-man defense when they�re older.

So this comes down to a case of �do you want your players to be better prepared for the future or do you want them to win now?�"

15 poor defensive habits that a zone defense promotes�
1. Lazy on-ball defense
2. Standing and watching off ball
3. Poor closeout technique
4. Little accountability
5. Lack of communication
6. Minimal defensive movement
7. Fewer opportunities to guard different positions and areas of the floor
8. Fewer opportunities to practice communication in defensive transition
9. Fewer opportunities to practice decision-making in defensive transition
10. Reduced accountability on box outs
11. Fewer decisions while playing help defense
12. Decreased defense-rotation repetitions
13. Fewer opportunities to learn what constitutes acceptable defensive risk-taking
14. Minimal opportunities to defend a screen
15. Fewer opportunities for bigger players to guard the ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your talking about 7th graders! How many college coaches are watching 7th graders? Too much emphasis on recruiting in youth lacrosse. It should be about learning the game and trying to win the game. Being seen should not be the ultimate goal - especially for 7th graders.

Read an article on why zone is bad for youth basketball. The quote and list were interesting and applicable to youth lacrosse.

"A player that is taught man-to-man defense when they�re young will have a much easier transition to playing zone defense than a player who plays zone defense exclusively at a young age will have transitioning to a man-to-man defense when they�re older.

So this comes down to a case of �do you want your players to be better prepared for the future or do you want them to win now?�"

15 poor defensive habits that a zone defense promotes�
1. Lazy on-ball defense
2. Standing and watching off ball
3. Poor closeout technique
4. Little accountability
5. Lack of communication
6. Minimal defensive movement
7. Fewer opportunities to guard different positions and areas of the floor
8. Fewer opportunities to practice communication in defensive transition
9. Fewer opportunities to practice decision-making in defensive transition
10. Reduced accountability on box outs
11. Fewer decisions while playing help defense
12. Decreased defense-rotation repetitions
13. Fewer opportunities to learn what constitutes acceptable defensive risk-taking
14. Minimal opportunities to defend a screen
15. Fewer opportunities for bigger players to guard the ball.

agree. playing zone is about the coach concerned about winning games not developing skills. we had a coach throw zone on us in a u11 rec game. naturally our boys had no clue what to as we didn't have a zone offense. after moving the ball around for about a minute the coach was calling for a timer on call.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your talking about 7th graders! How many college coaches are watching 7th graders? Too much emphasis on recruiting in youth lacrosse. It should be about learning the game and trying to win the game. Being seen should not be the ultimate goal - especially for 7th graders.

You're missing my point. No, coaches aren't watching 7th graders. They are however watching 8th graders. And having kids playing zone in 7th grade is not helping the kids. They should be concentrating on playing one on one against their man, making proper slides, etc. And you're right, the emphasis should be on learning how to play the game. Playing zone just to confuse a team and win a game is short sighted and selfish.

Posters are correct--playing 6v6 zone does not build individual skills and should not be run at youth level.

So if a team plays zone defense how does that affect the offense? Say at practice all the defense plays is zone. Does a offensive player benefit playing against zone Defense?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if a team plays zone defense how does that affect the offense? Say at practice all the defense plays is zone. Does a offensive player benefit playing against zone Defense?

It's a systematic approach to break down a zone. It doesn't necessarily require individual skill. Especially when a zone is being played by 7th graders. In most cases, it's not being played well. The sole purpose is to confuse the offensive players and coaches use it to win games they know they can't win matched up man to man. Is it bad for a kid to learn how to play against zone? Not really, but they aren't improving their individual skills doing so.

That is really your come back, Zone defense? Have you not watched them play in the past 4 years. Why don't you go watch some D-1 teams play today and this weekend and see how many of them play ZONE DEFENSE ! That might be the lamest remark on here. I hope your team plays man to man against them the entire game . Clueless is that remark-

Please play man to man on API and the Hawks ..Both teams will burn you with their cutters...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is really your come back, Zone defense? Have you not watched them play in the past 4 years. Why don't you go watch some D-1 teams play today and this weekend and see how many of them play ZONE DEFENSE ! That might be the lamest remark on here. I hope your team plays man to man against them the entire game . Clueless is that remark-

I agree. Teams should be playing a combination of both during the course of a game. Zones don't need to sit back, they can be aggressive and press out to put pressure on the offense.

Players should be taught to play both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please play man to man on API and the Hawks ..Both teams will burn you with their cutters...

API not the same team from last year. Hawks got better.

Api only lost one player from last year and pick up some good players for this years team . API will better this year but we will see what happens .

Any good match up this weekend?

Notre Dame vs. Maryland and UNC vs. Denver

Blah blah
Do the moms and dads from the old team lime green still wear the neck lanyards of precious?
Lots of great chatter from the opposing teams.
Priceless.

any good preseason scrimmages this weekend. Season is right around the corner. Looks like good teams and match ups in all divisions

March kickoff invitational schedule is out

Where is that played at?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is that played at?

Potomac Md

What's the word on the matchups this weekend? Everyone is so quiet.

Bethesda looked good.

API undefeated and looked real good.

All the FCA 2022 players are either 12 or 13. They're just that good!!!!

👍

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API undefeated and looked real good.

Who they play? any team with a winning record?

March Kickoff Invitational results

5 - Cannons 2022
5 - Club Blue 2022
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3 - Team Carolina 2022
11 - Madlax Capital 2022
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10 - Next Level 2022 Blue
5 - 3D Mid-Atlantic 2022
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12 - API Diamondbacks 2022
2 - Cannons 2022
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11 - BLC 2022 Blue
0 - Tri-State 2022
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4 - 3D Mid-Atlantic 2022
8 - Team Carolina 2022
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8 - BLC 2022 Blue
5 - Madlax Capital 2022
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7 - Next Level 2022 Blue
5 - Club Blue 2022
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3 - 3D Mid-Atlantic 2022
13 - API Diamondbacks 2022
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4 - Cannons 2022
4 - Tri-State 2022
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7 - API Diamondbacks 2022
5 - Club Blue 2022
----------------------------
8 - BLC 2022 Blue
4 - Team Carolina 2022
----------------------------
6 - Next Level 2022 Blue
5 - Tri-State 2022
----------------------------

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the FCA 2022 players are either 12 or 13. They're just that good!!!!

In 2016 they were. Now they are 13/14.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

March Kickoff Invitational results

5 - Cannons 2022
5 - Club Blue 2022
----------------------------
3 - Team Carolina 2022
11 - Madlax Capital 2022
----------------------------
10 - Next Level 2022 Blue
5 - 3D Mid-Atlantic 2022
----------------------------
12 - API Diamondbacks 2022
2 - Cannons 2022
----------------------------
11 - BLC 2022 Blue
0 - Tri-State 2022
----------------------------
4 - 3D Mid-Atlantic 2022
8 - Team Carolina 2022
----------------------------
8 - BLC 2022 Blue
5 - Madlax Capital 2022
----------------------------
7 - Next Level 2022 Blue
5 - Club Blue 2022
----------------------------
3 - 3D Mid-Atlantic 2022
13 - API Diamondbacks 2022
----------------------------
4 - Cannons 2022
4 - Tri-State 2022
----------------------------
7 - API Diamondbacks 2022
5 - Club Blue 2022
----------------------------
8 - BLC 2022 Blue
4 - Team Carolina 2022
----------------------------
6 - Next Level 2022 Blue
5 - Tri-State 2022
----------------------------

Why did API play all those B level teams?

They didnt

HoCo schedule is up. Who has the easiest schedule?

Elite is very strong all around. Not sure anyone as an 'Easy" schedule. All very good teams and a lot of hard hitters facing each other right out of the gate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HoCo schedule is up. Who has the easiest schedule?

Top 4 Predictions

I have :

RR
API
Team 91
Hawks

Hawks look to have an easy path

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks look to have an easy path

According to your power rankings?

Not a hawk parent but how can anyone say anyone has an easy path? There hasn't been a game played yet. Schedule looks pretty tough all around. It also looks like API vs Hawks first game surely doesn't seem easy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Elite is very strong all around. Not sure anyone as an 'Easy" schedule. All very good teams and a lot of hard hitters facing each other right out of the gate.

Yup, that is just what youth lacrosse needs lot of hard hitters. Haven't you noticed that lacrosse is trying to take this kind of mentality out of the game. Officials are instructed to look to this kind of behavior and to toss the flag every time they see it. I realize and appreciate that lacrosse is a contact sport, but not to the level and extent that it encourages or promotes hard hits. This is true for all levels. from Div 1 college down to the youngest youth level. Kids at this level need to work on stick skills, teamwork and improving their lacrosse IQ, not going around playing like a Neanderthal. I have been an official for over 10 years and do games at the Div 1 level and I do and will continue to penalize anyone acting like this. There are certain teams that seem to promote this kind of behavior, even at the youth level and all officals know who they are and look for it in every game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Elite is very strong all around. Not sure anyone as an 'Easy" schedule. All very good teams and a lot of hard hitters facing each other right out of the gate.

Yup, that is just what youth lacrosse needs lot of hard hitters. Haven't you noticed that lacrosse is trying to take this kind of mentality out of the game. Officials are instructed to look to this kind of behavior and to toss the flag every time they see it. I realize and appreciate that lacrosse is a contact sport, but not to the level and extent that it encourages or promotes hard hits. This is true for all levels. from Div 1 college down to the youngest youth level. Kids at this level need to work on stick skills, teamwork and improving their lacrosse IQ, not going around playing like a Neanderthal. I have been an official for over 10 years and do games at the Div 1 level and I do and will continue to penalize anyone acting like this. There are certain teams that seem to promote this kind of behavior, even at the youth level and all officals know who they are and look for it in every game.

Jeez.... I think he meant heavy hitters or top teams. Relax ref.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Elite is very strong all around. Not sure anyone as an 'Easy" schedule. All very good teams and a lot of hard hitters facing each other right out of the gate.

Yup, that is just what youth lacrosse needs lot of hard hitters. Haven't you noticed that lacrosse is trying to take this kind of mentality out of the game. Officials are instructed to look to this kind of behavior and to toss the flag every time they see it. I realize and appreciate that lacrosse is a contact sport, but not to the level and extent that it encourages or promotes hard hits. This is true for all levels. from Div 1 college down to the youngest youth level. Kids at this level need to work on stick skills, teamwork and improving their lacrosse IQ, not going around playing like a Neanderthal. I have been an official for over 10 years and do games at the Div 1 level and I do and will continue to penalize anyone acting like this. There are certain teams that seem to promote this kind of behavior, even at the youth level and all officals know who they are and look for it in every game.

Hard legal body checks are very much a part of the game. If you were a ref, you would know that "hard" is not a parameter for determining the legality of a body check in lacrosse.

'hard hitters' was not meant as teams purposely out to hurt and play with intent to hurt. It was meant has very good physical teams play each other on the first day. Sorry you took it that way and felt the need to rant on because you are a referee. I have never seen any team at this level out to purposely or promote Neanderthal behavior.Does it occasionally happen yes but to state that on this forum that it is promoted is a stab at all the hard work and dedication that the players and coaches put into a season. Congratulations on being a D-1 level ref. Yes, every parent on this thread and at the 2022 elite level has noticed and promotes the safety of all lacrosse players.They are big advocates supporters of Safety in this sport. Being a referee doesn't make you the authority on this matter.Stating that certain teams promote this behavior makes me very suspect on your ability to call a fair game. Very good lacrosse IQ and very good and well respected coaches teaches our boys good lacrosse. I hope you and your counter parts this year will do a better job of calling these games because the past few years it has been mediocre at best. I hope you are putting as much time mastering your job as the Coaches and players have put in to play good lacrosse. In case you haven't noticed-
Look forward to heckling you on the side line this year. Cheers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HoCo schedule is up. Who has the easiest schedule?

Top 4 Predictions

I have :

RR
API
Team 91
Hawks

The 3 least competitive teams from last year have dropped down (3D, Cannons, & Storm) and Next Level has joined. Possibly any team with Next Level will have an easy game since they were knocked out of the lower division playoffs last year by Thunder. Other than that, all schedules look tough.

It sounds like HoCo may be clamping down some of the language and hits this year:

We will not be instituting new rules for contact during game play, but referees are being instructed to call games stricter and tighter with the rules we do have in place.

The league also has the ability to hand down discipline to a player or coach whenever necessary.

PLAYER / COACH / SPECTATOR CONDUCT AND DISCIPLINARY ACTION

If the game officials hear any use of foul language on or off the field during the game, the team will be given a 1 minute to 3 minute full time penalty. Repeated use of foul language will result in an ejection.

Game officials will not tolerate any form of taunting by players. Anyone who strikes, shoves, pushes, bumps or otherwise physically threatens an official or a member of his/her team or any other team shall automatically be suspended from all Department sponsored activities. All suspensions will be reported to the Mid-Atlantic Recreation & Sports Alliance, and will carry to all jurisdictions that participate in MARPSA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It sounds like HoCo may be clamping down some of the language and hits this year:

We will not be instituting new rules for contact during game play, but referees are being instructed to call games stricter and tighter with the rules we do have in place.

The league also has the ability to hand down discipline to a player or coach whenever necessary.

PLAYER / COACH / SPECTATOR CONDUCT AND DISCIPLINARY ACTION

If the game officials hear any use of foul language on or off the field during the game, the team will be given a 1 minute to 3 minute full time penalty. Repeated use of foul language will result in an ejection.

Game officials will not tolerate any form of taunting by players. Anyone who strikes, shoves, pushes, bumps or otherwise physically threatens an official or a member of his/her team or any other team shall automatically be suspended from all Department sponsored activities. All suspensions will be reported to the Mid-Atlantic Recreation & Sports Alliance, and will carry to all jurisdictions that participate in MARPSA.

None of that is new.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Elite is very strong all around. Not sure anyone as an 'Easy" schedule. All very good teams and a lot of hard hitters facing each other right out of the gate.

Yup, that is just what youth lacrosse needs lot of hard hitters. Haven't you noticed that lacrosse is trying to take this kind of mentality out of the game. Officials are instructed to look to this kind of behavior and to toss the flag every time they see it. I realize and appreciate that lacrosse is a contact sport, but not to the level and extent that it encourages or promotes hard hits. This is true for all levels. from Div 1 college down to the youngest youth level. Kids at this level need to work on stick skills, teamwork and improving their lacrosse IQ, not going around playing like a Neanderthal. I have been an official for over 10 years and do games at the Div 1 level and I do and will continue to penalize anyone acting like this. There are certain teams that seem to promote this kind of behavior, even at the youth level and all officals know who they are and look for it in every game.

Hard legal body checks are very much a part of the game. If you were a ref, you would know that "hard" is not a parameter for determining the legality of a body check in lacrosse.

I'm not a ref but that is where you are wrong. Lacrosse is trying to take the excessive physical hit out of the game. A player taking a 10 or 15 foot run at an opponent and then leveling him will immediately draw a penalty and it should. There are some in the lacrosse world who think this is like ice hockey and the hits should/could be the same. They are not, in lacrosse players are not nearly protected by gear as hockey. Back in the 60's and 70's it wasn't played like that and somehow as lacrosse grew in popularity the "extra" hard hit began to occur and the fans seems to cheer this kind of behavior. Lacrosse officials and rule committees are backing away from this behavior and will call closer games and give a penalty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Elite is very strong all around. Not sure anyone as an 'Easy" schedule. All very good teams and a lot of hard hitters facing each other right out of the gate.

Yup, that is just what youth lacrosse needs lot of hard hitters. Haven't you noticed that lacrosse is trying to take this kind of mentality out of the game. Officials are instructed to look to this kind of behavior and to toss the flag every time they see it. I realize and appreciate that lacrosse is a contact sport, but not to the level and extent that it encourages or promotes hard hits. This is true for all levels. from Div 1 college down to the youngest youth level. Kids at this level need to work on stick skills, teamwork and improving their lacrosse IQ, not going around playing like a Neanderthal. I have been an official for over 10 years and do games at the Div 1 level and I do and will continue to penalize anyone acting like this. There are certain teams that seem to promote this kind of behavior, even at the youth level and all officals know who they are and look for it in every game.

Hard legal body checks are very much a part of the game. If you were a ref, you would know that "hard" is not a parameter for determining the legality of a body check in lacrosse.

Wrong. Hard legal excessive body checks will definitely be called. This is what lacrosse wants out of the game and will call games much tighter and if it happens you get penalized.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'hard hitters' was not meant as teams purposely out to hurt and play with intent to hurt. It was meant has very good physical teams play each other on the first day. Sorry you took it that way and felt the need to rant on because you are a referee. I have never seen any team at this level out to purposely or promote Neanderthal behavior.Does it occasionally happen yes but to state that on this forum that it is promoted is a stab at all the hard work and dedication that the players and coaches put into a season. Congratulations on being a D-1 level ref. Yes, every parent on this thread and at the 2022 elite level has noticed and promotes the safety of all lacrosse players.They are big advocates supporters of Safety in this sport. Being a referee doesn't make you the authority on this matter.Stating that certain teams promote this behavior makes me very suspect on your ability to call a fair game. Very good lacrosse IQ and very good and well respected coaches teaches our boys good lacrosse. I hope you and your counter parts this year will do a better job of calling these games because the past few years it has been mediocre at best. I hope you are putting as much time mastering your job as the Coaches and players have put in to play good lacrosse. In case you haven't noticed-
Look forward to heckling you on the side line this year. Cheers

You are wrong about certain teams promoting these type of hits. The refs, other coaches and involved parents know who they are and watch very carefully when they play. Refs do call a very fair game when one of these teams play but they also have the responsibility to protect the players on the other team. We can always use more refs as the game is expanding. Why don't you look into becoming a ref, you seem to feel you have the ability to criticize how refs call games in the past few years. Do you think you can do better? Try it sometime and see how much of a challenge it is, especially as the kids get older and the game moves faster. Don't forget, refs also put in a lot of time, many meetings before the season starts and all of the games throughout the spring/summer and fall. If you feel good about yourself heckling refs, have at it but don't take it too far or you just may winds up not just out of the game area but out of the entire facility area. You have no idea how many times refs, not just lacrosse but from other sports as well have been threatened after games but out of control idiotic parents. Think that's fair? Lastly, I was not ranting, I don't do that, sorry you took it that way. Just giving a heads up of what is out there and what is being done to control it and protect the safety of all players. That is the top priority.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Elite is very strong all around. Not sure anyone as an 'Easy" schedule. All very good teams and a lot of hard hitters facing each other right out of the gate.

Yup, that is just what youth lacrosse needs lot of hard hitters. Haven't you noticed that lacrosse is trying to take this kind of mentality out of the game. Officials are instructed to look to this kind of behavior and to toss the flag every time they see it. I realize and appreciate that lacrosse is a contact sport, but not to the level and extent that it encourages or promotes hard hits. This is true for all levels. from Div 1 college down to the youngest youth level. Kids at this level need to work on stick skills, teamwork and improving their lacrosse IQ, not going around playing like a Neanderthal. I have been an official for over 10 years and do games at the Div 1 level and I do and will continue to penalize anyone acting like this. There are certain teams that seem to promote this kind of behavior, even at the youth level and all officals know who they are and look for it in every game.

Hard legal body checks are very much a part of the game. If you were a ref, you would know that "hard" is not a parameter for determining the legality of a body check in lacrosse.

I'm not a ref but that is where you are wrong. Lacrosse is trying to take the excessive physical hit out of the game. A player taking a 10 or 15 foot run at an opponent and then leveling him will immediately draw a penalty and it should. There are some in the lacrosse world who think this is like ice hockey and the hits should/could be the same. They are not, in lacrosse players are not nearly protected by gear as hockey. Back in the 60's and 70's it wasn't played like that and somehow as lacrosse grew in popularity the "extra" hard hit began to occur and the fans seems to cheer this kind of behavior. Lacrosse officials and rule committees are backing away from this behavior and will call closer games and give a penalty.

Might want to read up and watch some recent lacrosse games. Almost any "hard" hit resulting in a player on ground or loud clash of bodies...is resulting in a penalty this year at ALL levels. It better be a perfect hit of you standing straight up with hands close to chest and hardly any movement towards player being hit. Then you might not be called for a penalty.

If it is hard and legal, how can it also be excessive?

[quote=Anonymous]If it is hard and legal, how can it also be excessive?[/quot

When you see a player get a 6 to 10 foot full running start and plow into a player at full speed, that is excessive. Some of these hits, that are legal but considered excessive will be called. These kind of hits are what cause concussions and other serious and unnecessary injuries even though they are a "legal" hit. Illegal hits, high or to the head or cross checks etc are easier to call. Excessive hits are at times subjective, but it is better to error on the side of caution than to allow this type of behavior to continue. No need for a player to get injured because some knucklehead gave a hard and somewhat cheap shot. The lacrosse powers, from college to the very youngest youth levels are looking at this and doing everything that can be done to stop this and make the game safer. Lacrosse is still a contact sport and will remain so but not to the level it was heading a few years ago.

You contradict yourself and make no sense. A running hit from 6-10 feet which you label excessive is not legal so the term excessive has no meaning. Then you refer to hard and somewhat cheap shot. A cheap shot by definition would not be legal. Lose the hyperbole. A body check is legal or it is not. Seems you prefer to eliminate body checks. You prefer lacrosse played as basketball. So remove the equipment and the contact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You contradict yourself and make no sense. A running hit from 6-10 feet which you label excessive is not legal so the term excessive has no meaning. Then you refer to hard and somewhat cheap shot. A cheap shot by definition would not be legal. Lose the hyperbole. A body check is legal or it is not. Seems you prefer to eliminate body checks. You prefer lacrosse played as basketball. So remove the equipment and the contact.

I don't believe he contradicted himself at all, seems you are trying to read too much into what is being explained and also it becomes apparent you do not have a deep knowledge of lacrosse. An excessive hit can be a cheap shot but not by true definition illegal. Not every body check is legal, go get yourself a rule guide and do some reading. Your comment about basketball and removing equipment is off base and truthfully rather childish. Actually your post makes no sense. The post you are referring to seems clear and on point.

Let's move on. Lots of rules experts coming out of the woodwork because one guy misread a post. Everyone is on the same page about player safety and in the end, the refs call the game.

Anyone been getting on fields lately?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's move on. Lots of rules experts coming out of the woodwork because one guy misread a post. Everyone is on the same page about player safety and in the end, the refs call the game.

Anyone been getting on fields lately?

Snow covered but hopefully will melt soon. Same thing happened last year with the temps. Was much warmer in Jan and Feb then got much colder in March and April. I can remember last years HOCO championship game in mid May, temp was high 40's. Lets hope it warms up so the kids and fans can play and watch at a comfortable 60-65 degrees.

Yup, that is just what youth lacrosse needs lot of hard hitters. Haven't you noticed that lacrosse is trying to take this kind of mentality out of the game. Officials are instructed to look to this kind of behavior and to toss the flag every time they see it. I realize and appreciate that lacrosse is a contact sport, but not to the level and extent that it encourages or promotes hard hits. This is true for all levels. from Div 1 college down to the youngest youth level. Kids at this level need to work on stick skills, teamwork and improving their lacrosse IQ, not going around playing like a Neanderthal. I have been an official for over 10 years and do games at the Div 1 level and I do and will continue to penalize anyone acting like this. There are certain teams that seem to promote this kind of behavior, even at the youth level and all officals know who they are and look for it in every game.
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Hard legal body checks are very much a part of the game. If you were a ref, you would know that "hard" is not a parameter for determining the legality of a body check in lacrosse.
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Wrong. Hard legal excessive body checks will definitely be called. This is what lacrosse wants out of the game and will call games much tighter and if it happens you get penalized.
[/quote]

There is legal, and there is illegal. There is no excessive legal, or it would be illegal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yup, that is just what youth lacrosse needs lot of hard hitters. Haven't you noticed that lacrosse is trying to take this kind of mentality out of the game. Officials are instructed to look to this kind of behavior and to toss the flag every time they see it. I realize and appreciate that lacrosse is a contact sport, but not to the level and extent that it encourages or promotes hard hits. This is true for all levels. from Div 1 college down to the youngest youth level. Kids at this level need to work on stick skills, teamwork and improving their lacrosse IQ, not going around playing like a Neanderthal. I have been an official for over 10 years and do games at the Div 1 level and I do and will continue to penalize anyone acting like this. There are certain teams that seem to promote this kind of behavior, even at the youth level and all officals know who they are and look for it in every game.

Hard legal body checks are very much a part of the game. If you were a ref, you would know that "hard" is not a parameter for determining the legality of a body check in lacrosse.
[/quote]

Wrong. Hard legal excessive body checks will definitely be called. This is what lacrosse wants out of the game and will call games much tighter and if it happens you get penalized.
[/quote]

There is legal, and there is illegal. There is no excessive legal, or it would be illegal.
[/quote].
Good grief, give it a break. Love how all the experts show up and start brain [lacrosse]*king this to death. Go preach somewhere else, we are tired of hearing it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is legal, and there is illegal. There is no excessive legal, or it would be illegal.

Ummm, yes there is...

NCAA Rulebook 5.5.c Unnecessary Roughness... "Any act on the part of a player that is deliberate and excessively violent, whether it be with the body or crosse."

NFHS rule 5.9.3 is worded mostly the same and has two additional important qualifiers... "Any avoidable act on the part of a player that is deliberate and excessively violent, whether it be with the body or crosse. This may include a legal body check." (emphasis mine)

Officials are taught to call unnecessary roughness on what would otherwise be a legal body check if it is more violent than necessary to separate the player from the ball.

I notice a lot of colleges are playing zone defense this year..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I notice a lot of colleges are playing zone defense this year..

Maybe they have been watching the Diamondbacks.....lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is legal, and there is illegal. There is no excessive legal, or it would be illegal.

Ummm, yes there is...

NCAA Rulebook 5.5.c Unnecessary Roughness... "Any act on the part of a player that is deliberate and excessively violent, whether it be with the body or crosse."

NFHS rule 5.9.3 is worded mostly the same and has two additional important qualifiers... "Any avoidable act on the part of a player that is deliberate and excessively violent, whether it be with the body or crosse. This may include a legal body check." (emphasis mine)

Officials are taught to call unnecessary roughness on what would otherwise be a legal body check if it is more violent than necessary to separate the player from the ball.

Otherwise known as illegal.

Score from Hawks vs. Rough Riders scrimmage?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I notice a lot of colleges are playing zone defense this year..

Maybe they have been watching the Diamondbacks.....lol

Only people that know the game understand the need for zone defenses. Those that don't know the game criticize.

Ignorance is bliss.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score from Hawks vs. Rough Riders scrimmage?

Top Secret

No need for a zone defense at this age. Teach the kids to move their feet and play man to man. Strictly about the wins if you are playing a zone at this age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No need for a zone defense at this age. Teach the kids to move their feet and play man to man. Strictly about the wins if you are playing a zone at this age.

Introduction to zone is completely appropriate at this age. Most club and competitive travel teams are expected to play to win at this age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I notice a lot of colleges are playing zone defense this year..

Maybe they have been watching the Diamondbacks.....lol

Only people that know the game understand the need for zone defenses. Those that don't know the game criticize.

Ignorance is bliss.

You'll see more zone defenses in high school when the coaches realize that the kids weren't taught how to play good man to man defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No need for a zone defense at this age. Teach the kids to move their feet and play man to man. Strictly about the wins if you are playing a zone at this age.

Introduction to zone is completely appropriate at this age. Most club and competitive travel teams are expected to play to win at this age.

That's a load of crap. Yes, clubs try to win. But most 7th grade coaches don't feel the need to play zone in order to do it as their "primary" job is to develop the players and prepare them to play for their HS teams. As a parent of a LSM, I would be quite irritated if my son was playing a lot of zone defense as opposed to developing skills to play one on one defense, learning the proper slides, etc. Much more important than a free t-shirt.

This must be trolling ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yup, that is just what youth lacrosse needs lot of hard hitters. Haven't you noticed that lacrosse is trying to take this kind of mentality out of the game. Officials are instructed to look to this kind of behavior and to toss the flag every time they see it. I realize and appreciate that lacrosse is a contact sport, but not to the level and extent that it encourages or promotes hard hits. This is true for all levels. from Div 1 college down to the youngest youth level. Kids at this level need to work on stick skills, teamwork and improving their lacrosse IQ, not going around playing like a Neanderthal. I have been an official for over 10 years and do games at the Div 1 level and I do and will continue to penalize anyone acting like this. There are certain teams that seem to promote this kind of behavior, even at the youth level and all officals know who they are and look for it in every game.

Hard legal body checks are very much a part of the game. If you were a ref, you would know that "hard" is not a parameter for determining the legality of a body check in lacrosse.
[/quote]

Wrong. Hard legal excessive body checks will definitely be called. This is what lacrosse wants out of the game and will call games much tighter and if it happens you get penalized.
[/quote]

There is legal, and there is illegal. There is no excessive legal, or it would be illegal.
[/quote]
This forum isn't full of morons after all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No need for a zone defense at this age. Teach the kids to move their feet and play man to man. Strictly about the wins if you are playing a zone at this age.

Introduction to zone is completely appropriate at this age. Most club and competitive travel teams are expected to play to win at this age.

That's a load of crap. Yes, clubs try to win. But most 7th grade coaches don't feel the need to play zone in order to do it as their "primary" job is to develop the players and prepare them to play for their HS teams. As a parent of a LSM, I would be quite irritated if my son was playing a lot of zone defense as opposed to developing skills to play one on one defense, learning the proper slides, etc. Much more important than a free t-shirt.

Introducing the concept is much different than making it primary. But then again, reading and the ability to comprehend are different as well, as you make abundantly clear.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No need for a zone defense at this age. Teach the kids to move their feet and play man to man. Strictly about the wins if you are playing a zone at this age.

Introduction to zone is completely appropriate at this age. Most club and competitive travel teams are expected to play to win at this age.

That's a load of crap. Yes, clubs try to win. But most 7th grade coaches don't feel the need to play zone in order to do it as their "primary" job is to develop the players and prepare them to play for their HS teams. As a parent of a LSM, I would be quite irritated if my son was playing a lot of zone defense as opposed to developing skills to play one on one defense, learning the proper slides, etc. Much more important than a free t-shirt.

Introducing the concept is much different than making it primary. But then again, reading and the ability to comprehend are different as well, as you make abundantly clear.

There is no reason to teach zone to middle school kids. They will learn it when they get to high school. It's not like there is a specific skill set that needs to be developed to excel in a zone defense.

HoCo week 1

Hawks Green vs. API Diamondbacks
Rough Riders vs. Next Level Black
Team 91 vs. Bethesda Blue
FCA - Blue vs. Madlax - Capital

I've got Hawks, NL, Bethesda, and Madlax starting 1-0.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No need for a zone defense at this age. Teach the kids to move their feet and play man to man. Strictly about the wins if you are playing a zone at this age.

Introduction to zone is completely appropriate at this age. Most club and competitive travel teams are expected to play to win at this age.

That's a load of crap. Yes, clubs try to win. But most 7th grade coaches don't feel the need to play zone in order to do it as their "primary" job is to develop the players and prepare them to play for their HS teams. As a parent of a LSM, I would be quite irritated if my son was playing a lot of zone defense as opposed to developing skills to play one on one defense, learning the proper slides, etc. Much more important than a free t-shirt.

Introducing the concept is much different than making it primary. But then again, reading and the ability to comprehend are different as well, as you make abundantly clear.

There is no reason to teach zone to middle school kids. They will learn it when they get to high school. It's not like there is a specific skill set that needs to be developed to excel in a zone defense.

Most competitive club players are going to have some zone experience, or at least a more than elementary understanding on the concepts going into HS. With clubs running basically year round, the only reason to not introduce is if the coach does not understand. The only people viewing this negatively are those that have kids that haven't learned it yet. Otherwise, why care what some other kid learns..

Yes , Spent too many hours, days and nights in-between the lines and outside the lines. Again, you being a referee or myself doesn't gives us the authority to come on here and bash an entire league or let everyone know how great you are. You are not the only one who cares for these players. I have done more than you will ever know. I just don't go around spewing about it. There are a ton of dads and parents with more lacrosse knowledge than you on here. So just worry about your job and protecting the kids during the game . Original post was meant to say how great it is to see many top teams facing each other the first week. Thanks for your expertise and sincerely hope you go into each game with fairness and call each game correctly. The rules are not new and the league is just making it clear FINALLY what will not be tolerated. This is a direct result of parents coaches and clubs voices being heard by a league that as quickly dominated the lacrosse landscape in Maryland. I was referee and a coach and support the ALL who have a hand in making the sport safer and better. I do not support referees who think they are high and mighty and continuously make the game about them . This is me heckling you.. Cheers

API
RR
Bethesda
FCA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HoCo week 1

Hawks Green vs. API Diamondbacks
Rough Riders vs. Next Level Black
Team 91 vs. Bethesda Blue
FCA - Blue vs. Madlax - Capital

I've got Hawks, NL, Bethesda, and Madlax starting 1-0.

Week one

Hawks
RR
Bethesda
FCA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes , Spent too many hours, days and nights in-between the lines and outside the lines. Again, you being a referee or myself doesn't gives us the authority to come on here and bash an entire league or let everyone know how great you are. You are not the only one who cares for these players. I have done more than you will ever know. I just don't go around spewing about it. There are a ton of dads and parents with more lacrosse knowledge than you on here. So just worry about your job and protecting the kids during the game . Original post was meant to say how great it is to see many top teams facing each other the first week. Thanks for your expertise and sincerely hope you go into each game with fairness and call each game correctly. The rules are not new and the league is just making it clear FINALLY what will not be tolerated. This is a direct result of parents coaches and clubs voices being heard by a league that as quickly dominated the lacrosse landscape in Maryland. I was referee and a coach and support the ALL who have a hand in making the sport safer and better. I do not support referees who think they are high and mighty and continuously make the game about them . This is me heckling you.. Cheers

Heckle all you want. Reading comprehension is clearly not one of your strong points. No one, and I mean no one, is making the game about them and there are no referees who believe or act like they are high and mighty, to use your words, and make the game about them. Ref a game once, see how easy it is not and your eyes need to be all over the place. I and every ref that I know today puts players safety above all else. This is the direction and the mandate that lacrosse wants and needs to take and it is long overdo, especially given how is got out of hand in the 80's. As the game became more popular and grew, there was this belief, especially from the misinformed parents, that lacrosse was a game to be played with brutal hits etc. I can remember parents cheering when a player was decked, excessive hit, they thought that was great. I saw this first hand. The game is getting back to where it needs to be and it is up to everyone involved to contribute and reinforce this direction including coaches, parents, players, administrators and referees.
But to make a statement that a ref is trying to make the game about him is way off base and your are clearly not reading what was said.
This is me heckling you.

Back pedal all you want.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes , Spent too many hours, days and nights in-between the lines and outside the lines. Again, you being a referee or myself doesn't gives us the authority to come on here and bash an entire league or let everyone know how great you are. You are not the only one who cares for these players. I have done more than you will ever know. I just don't go around spewing about it. There are a ton of dads and parents with more lacrosse knowledge than you on here. So just worry about your job and protecting the kids during the game . Original post was meant to say how great it is to see many top teams facing each other the first week. Thanks for your expertise and sincerely hope you go into each game with fairness and call each game correctly. The rules are not new and the league is just making it clear FINALLY what will not be tolerated. This is a direct result of parents coaches and clubs voices being heard by a league that as quickly dominated the lacrosse landscape in Maryland. I was referee and a coach and support the ALL who have a hand in making the sport safer and better. I do not support referees who think they are high and mighty and continuously make the game about them . This is me heckling you.. Cheers

Heckle all you want. Reading comprehension is clearly not one of your strong points. No one, and I mean no one, is making the game about them and there are no referees who believe or act like they are high and mighty, to use your words, and make the game about them. Ref a game once, see how easy it is not and your eyes need to be all over the place. I and every ref that I know today puts players safety above all else. This is the direction and the mandate that lacrosse wants and needs to take and it is long overdo, especially given how is got out of hand in the 80's. As the game became more popular and grew, there was this belief, especially from the misinformed parents, that lacrosse was a game to be played with brutal hits etc. I can remember parents cheering when a player was decked, excessive hit, they thought that was great. I saw this first hand. The game is getting back to where it needs to be and it is up to everyone involved to contribute and reinforce this direction including coaches, parents, players, administrators and referees.
But to make a statement that a ref is trying to make the game about him is way off base and your are clearly not reading what was said.
This is me heckling you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HoCo week 1

Hawks Green vs. API Diamondbacks
Rough Riders vs. Next Level Black
Team 91 vs. Bethesda Blue
FCA - Blue vs. Madlax - Capital

I've got Hawks, NL, Bethesda, and Madlax starting 1-0.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HoCo week 1

Hawks Green vs. API Diamondbacks
Rough Riders vs. Next Level Black
Team 91 vs. Bethesda Blue
FCA - Blue vs. Madlax - Capital

I've got Hawks, NL, Bethesda, and Madlax starting 1-0.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HoCo week 1

Hawks Green vs. API Diamondbacks
Rough Riders vs. Next Level Black
Team 91 vs. Bethesda Blue
FCA - Blue vs. Madlax - Capital

I've got Hawks, NL, Bethesda, and Madlax starting 1-0.

Did Next Level Spartans get some new kids or is it basically the same team as last year.

From what I have seen so far this year from fall to indoor and now spring the Hawks will be the team to beat this year. Midfield/face off is this their strength.

RR is going to be the most improved team this year. Has added great attack and upgraded their defense to add to a solid mid field and goal. They have struggled at the X.

API , BCL , 91 , Mad , FCA , Crabs all are very strong and talented. Not a ton of upgrades but teams are always going to be in it until the end

NL is what I have seen as the weakest. Again still strong and can beat anyone if they play their best game but the few teams I watched them they looked disorganized on plays.

The best thing with the HOCO league this year is that all of the teams playing in the Elite league are going to be good and I look forward to watching some great lacrosse this spring.

On another note what happened to the other league at St. Paul's? Looks very weak this year.

1st weekend

Hawks
RR
BLC
FCA

Half the team is new. They are big and athletic, not sure how they will compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what I have seen so far this year from fall to indoor and now spring the Hawks will be the team to beat this year. Midfield/face off is this their strength.

RR is going to be the most improved team this year. Has added great attack and upgraded their defense to add to a solid mid field and goal. They have struggled at the X.

API , BCL , 91 , Mad , FCA , Crabs all are very strong and talented. Not a ton of upgrades but teams are always going to be in it until the end

NL is what I have seen as the weakest. Again still strong and can beat anyone if they play their best game but the few teams I watched them they looked disorganized on plays.

The best thing with the HOCO league this year is that all of the teams playing in the Elite league are going to be good and I look forward to watching some great lacrosse this spring.

On another note what happened to the other league at St. Paul's? Looks very weak this year.

1st weekend

Hawks
RR
BLC
FCA

I find it very odd you left Madlax Capital off this post all together. Are you trying to say they will be the worst team in the Elite bracket? Or are you just someone who has issues with Madlax so you omit them to be a Jerk?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it very odd you left Madlax Capital off this post all together. Are you trying to say they will be the worst team in the Elite bracket? Or are you just someone who has issues with Madlax so you omit them to be a Jerk?

You must be Madlax for life.

No Mad Lax is in there read the entire post.

API , BLC , 91 , MAD , FCA , CRABS 3rd line down

Does the Hawks have a new FOGO from last summer?

seriously did you even red the post entirely.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Mad Lax is in there read the entire post.

API , BLC , 91 , MAD , FCA , CRABS 3rd line down

Why doesn't lacrosse just remove body checks from the game. The game currently allows it and coaches teach it, but kids get penalized and leave the field confused when the flags get thrown. So can someone please define legal versus illegal hits.

I would really like to see this discussion get rolling. My son is a slim but solidly built defender who often gets flagged for hits that appear legal to me. It seems to me that he is being flagged for being 3 inches taller and bigger than the other kids. So I would really like to know what an illegal hit is, as well as the criteria that refs are looking at when throwing flags.

From my perspective, all hits to the head, above the shoulder, and from behind should be eliminated. What confounds me, however, is when my kid gets flagged for hits not meeting this criteria. I am further troubled by the fact that my kid is routinely confused about why he keeps getting flagged for body checks. On one hand the kids are taught that the only way to slide and take away a shot that is already in motion is to attack the body, but at the same time we are increasingly flagging this behavior. Perhaps I just need to have a better understanding of the rules. Can someone please weigh in?

Also, I would like to see refs counsel the youngsters who get flagged for the more aggressive hits we are talking about. If we really want the game to be safer, the perpetrators (our kids) need to understand why the flags are thrown. I know that in the case of my son, he typically does not understand why he was penalized. In my opinion, this education falls on both the refs and coaches at the youth level.

If a player drives the dirt, with the ball, a hard body check is permissible, below the shoulders. If a player is receiving a pass, in the dirt, and a hard poke, stick check or firm bump will stop the play, OK. But to take two steps or more and bury him will be flagged.

Ground balls- play the ball first. Approaching a ball from opposite directions, play the ball. In a 2v1 GB, its Ok to run a player off the ball or knock him off track.

It really isn't that complicated. Play the ball first. Attack a ball carrier. Players competing for a ground ball or a pass, play the ball first then body him not bury him.

Smacking the back of your sones head and punching him in the face will both get his attention but one is highly unnecessary.

https://instagram.com/p/BSH2efkFuwS/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://instagram.com/p/BSH2efkFuwS/

To refs doing the game how do you not see that?

Scores from this weekend?

Mesa fresh ?
Homewood Havoc?
Play days?

The better question is...to the coach of that team and the parents of that kid...how do you not see that and what did they do?

Encouragement, probably laughing on the sidelines. Remember down the road there will always be someone bigger. Hopefully #2 when he's as old as #5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from this weekend?

Mesa fresh ?
Homewood Havoc?
Play days?

Mesa
http://www.tourneymachine.com/Publi...ivision=h201703071158054364501520ae18640

MDLX
http://www.tourneymachine.com/Publi...ivision=h20170317134941437d59a0c62d7724d

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from this weekend?

Mesa fresh ?
Homewood Havoc?
Play days?

Mesa
http://www.tourneymachine.com/Publi...ivision=h201703071158054364501520ae18640

MDLX
http://www.tourneymachine.com/Publi...ivision=h20170317134941437d59a0c62d7724d

Was LI Express A in MD, and LI Express B in PA?

Crabs beat Rising Sons pretty bad....hard to say if Crabs that good or RS not....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from this weekend?

Mesa fresh ?
Homewood Havoc?
Play days?

Mesa
http://www.tourneymachine.com/Publi...ivision=h201703071158054364501520ae18640

MDLX
http://www.tourneymachine.com/Publi...ivision=h20170317134941437d59a0c62d7724d

Was LI Express A in MD, and LI Express B in PA?

It was the same A team, but two of their top scorers didn't make the trip from Philly to Maryland.

Day 1, Game 1:
Long Island Express Channy - 9, Mesa Futures Orange 2022 - 3
Laxachusetts Blue - 7, BBL - 6

Day 1, Game 2:
Laxachusetts Blue - 9, Long Island Express Channy - 8
BBL - 9, Mesa Futures Orange - 7

Day 1, Game 3:
Laxachusetts Blue - 7, Mesa Futures Orange - 4
Long Island Express Channy - 9, BBL - 6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from this weekend?

Mesa fresh ?
Homewood Havoc?
Play days?

Mesa
http://www.tourneymachine.com/Publi...ivision=h201703071158054364501520ae18640

MDLX
http://www.tourneymachine.com/Publi...ivision=h20170317134941437d59a0c62d7724d

Was LI Express A in MD, and LI Express B in PA?

It was the same A team, but two of their top scorers didn't make the trip from Philly to Maryland.

It is okay. Don't need to make excuses. I am sure lots of other teams were missing players too.

No excuses necessary. Spring just started and will be a great season. Congrats to the winning teams. Express wins and loses as a team.

Just a tune up. I suspect that by June, teams will be running at a different pace. Kids just returning to lax from basketball, hockey, and winter track.

Good one, more excuses! How about the 2022 Games at Hopkins on Sunday, wasn't there some AA team playing their as well?

Freedom
Dukes
Koopers
SweetLax
Hawks
At Hopkins Sunday for the Big 12 Tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good one, more excuses! How about the 2022 Games at Hopkins on Sunday, wasn't there some AA team playing their as well?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://instagram.com/p/BSH2efkFuwS/

To refs doing the game how do you not see that?

You can see the ref across the field (no FO ref) watching and doing nothing.

Any scores from Sunday?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Freedom
Dukes
Koopers
SweetLax
Hawks
At Hopkins Sunday for the Big 12 Tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good one, more excuses! How about the 2022 Games at Hopkins on Sunday, wasn't there some AA team playing their as well?

Kid is on Sweetlax (NY). No matter, Hawks went 3-0 during the day, so pushing/shoving only gets you so far.

I felt just a bit bad for the Sweetlax kid, but not really, theses days there is cameras everywhere I am sure he regrets all the attention he got for this.Hawks did destroy them and showed class during entire game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kid is on Sweetlax (NY). No matter, Hawks went 3-0 during the day, so pushing/shoving only gets you so far.

Anyone know how Dukes Young Guns did @ Homewood event?

I predicted 1-2 (W - Rock, Loss - Koopers & Hawks)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Dukes Young Guns did @ Homewood event?

I predicted 1-2 (W - Rock, Loss - Koopers & Hawks)

They probably lost all three. They aren't an elite team. Heck, they are a second level organization to the Dukes Nationals. Maybe those guys could beat Koopers and Hawks. These guys no way.

Good luck to all teams this season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Dukes Young Guns did @ Homewood event?

I predicted 1-2 (W - Rock, Loss - Koopers & Hawks)

They probably lost all three. They aren't an elite team. Heck, they are a second level organization to the Dukes Nationals. Maybe those guys could beat Koopers and Hawks. These guys no way.

Dukes Nationals isn't even a real team. It's just a collection of kids whose real teams are taking a break for a weekend and the kids still want to play. Dukes Nationals lineup changes every tournament they do.

Mpll Koopers League:
Koopers
Laxworld
Rock
Roughriders
Wolfpack
Greene turtle
Hoco
Looneys
Thunder

Who wins it?

Nobody cares about that league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mpll Koopers League:
Koopers
Laxworld
Rock
Roughriders
Wolfpack
Greene turtle
Hoco
Looneys
Thunder

Who wins it?

I'm a little disappointed my son's club and by the looks of it many others dropped out of this league. At least with a Saturday league, we had a schedule to plan around. Now our Saturdays are filled with TBA or TBD play days or practices.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody cares about that league.

Thanks genius.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody cares about that league.

The same that nobody gives a rats a*s what you think or post. Go away, far away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Nobody cares about that league.

Please list the team, league, and tournaments that we are allowed to discuss here.

Like you team is to good for that league . Enjoy Saturday practice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Nobody cares about that league.

Please list the team, league, and tournaments that we are allowed to discuss here.

That's easy. All the teams/leagues and tournaments except those that you are associated with. See, told you it's easy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like you team is to good for that league . Enjoy Saturday practice.

We actually play in the HoCo league on Saturdays. The league you're in is filled with B and C level clubs. LOL. Must be hard to watch your son's "club" team filled with kids who can't catch the ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like you team is to good for that league . Enjoy Saturday practice.

We actually play in the HoCo league on Saturdays. The league you're in is filled with B and C level clubs. LOL. Must be hard to watch your son's "club" team filled with kids who can't catch the ball.

Hey jackass, most of the teams that play in the HOCO league play in the MPLL league. Plus, both leagues have scheduled games on Saturday and Sunday. Now, with that said, no one really cares where you play. Don't forget numb nuts, HOCO also has Elite, AA, A and B divisions. Your post clearly shows how much you do not know about club lacrosse and if I had to guess, you play in the B division.
Now a question, do you actually play in the HOCO league or is it your kid that plays? You started off stating "We actually play in the HOCO league on Saturdays blah blah blah". So what does your team do on Sundays, try and learn how to catch and throw a lacrosse ball, since you couldn't do it on Saturday in the HOCO league game? You are a real piece of work and a complete POS putting down another league, which you clearly know nothing about.

LOL. That other league has teams like Koopers, Wolfpack, etc. Juggernaut.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. That other league has teams like Koopers, Wolfpack, etc. Juggernaut.

Not worthy of discussion, huh? What a gigantic turd you are.

Could you be any more of a [lacrosse] bag by mocking a bunch of 7th graders and the league they play in?

This message board is an embarrassment. Grown men using the term "we" when it's your child who's actually playing. Get a life and stop disparaging 13 year old kids.

I'd also be willing to bet that the assholes criticizing kids and the division or league they play in most likely have never even played the sport.

And no my kid doesn't play in the Sat league or the B, A, or AA divisions.

Stop being a [lacrosse]!

I love it. The aholes are trolling already and the games haven't even started.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love it. The aholes are trolling already and the games haven't even started.

Sure are. You just proved it, an as*shole troll with nothing worthwhile to contribute.

Easy there girls. 2022 is 7th grade. You can play in any decent league and get better. By next year many will be faster and bigger. This is a development and puberty year for many. Next year you can push it and still make a good team as your kid gets bigger and stronger.

Let's see. This league has:

Koopers
Laxworld
Wolfpack
Hoco
Thunder

LOL. It's basically a rec league that a few good club teams double dip into in order to pummel terrible teams. What a waste of time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's see. This league has:

Koopers
Laxworld
Wolfpack
Hoco
Thunder

LOL. It's basically a rec league that a few good club teams double dip into in order to pummel terrible teams. What a waste of time.

So what the Hawks are the top team at this class. They are loaded with 2021 reclass kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's see. This league has:

Koopers
Laxworld
Wolfpack
Hoco
Thunder

LOL. It's basically a rec league that a few good club teams double dip into in order to pummel terrible teams. What a waste of time.

So what the Hawks are the top team at this class. They are loaded with 2021 reclass kids.

Crabs and FCA are loaded with 7 or 8 reclass kids. Hawks only have 3 or 4.

Hawks 17 API 6 downward spiral continues for API

BLC beat 91
RR beat Next level

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks 17 API 6 downward spiral continues for API

Their 13 coaches will get them back on track!!!!

Madlax has 6 reclassified kids

They have same amount coaches as the Hawks . I have to say the Hawks look good today they control the game . The face off kid is really good ,he only lost 3 face off today .nice work.

What happen to the zone defense??? Giving up 18 goals wow!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BLC beat 91
RR beat Next level

Scores posted on hoco site:
Bethesda 8 9-1md 3
Roughriders 11 next Level 4
Hawks 18 diamondbacks 6
Madlax 9 FCA 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BLC beat 91
RR beat Next level

Scores posted on hoco site:
Bethesda 8 9-1md 3
Roughriders 11 next Level 4
Hawks 18 diamondbacks 6
Madlax 9 FCA 3

Biggest surprise is 9D1 and FCA only putting up 3.

It's the first game of the spring seasons. The HAWKS flat out played the Diamondback's lessoned learned. GREAT WIN FOR THE HAWKS great job players . Api/Diamondback parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's the first game of the spring seasons. The HAWKS flat out played the Diamondback's lessoned learned. GREAT WIN FOR THE HAWKS great job players . Api/Diamondback parent

I kind of question if this post is from an Api/Diamondback parent. Seem like it's from a Hawks parent/fan. Just look at what is in capital letters.

Hawks=Hacks
Good luck in high school Sophomores.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks=Hacks
Good luck in high school Sophomores.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Idiot

Yikes, 18 goals given up? Wow. Would they have beaten the 2023 M&D team today? Fair question.

Older = hawks = hacks
Any questions dad?

Both goalies on 2022 Hawks could play 2023

Did the HAWKS just score again.

I heard the Hawks played several of their 2023's in the second half today because the score got so ugly.

The vaunted "zone defense" of API was dismantled.

Great game today John Paul...
They were 7th graders...
Really dad...
Good nite JP...

Nobody will beat the HAWKS . Look what we did to Api/Diamondbacks.who is next

Funny thing API parents still think their team is still one of the best in the country. 18-6 beat down. maybe in 3 grade not in 7 grade.

Great job JP....
Way to beat the 7th graders....
Next day at the watercolor...
Hey Tim...my son JP scored 6 goals...
Hey Ralph... Isn't your son older...
Good night JP....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody will beat the HAWKS . Look what we did to Api/Diamondbacks.who is next

We? Do you play for the Hawks? Your kid may, but you don't so please stop embarrassing yourself and vicariously living through your son by saying we.

This is one game will see what Api/Diamondbacks do the rest of the season .Everybody has bad game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody will beat the HAWKS . Look what we did to Api/Diamondbacks.who is next

Typical butthead response from a Hawks dad. You don't play for the 2022 Hawks team, so STOP saying we. We all know Hawks 2022 is loaded with holdbacks but you are really too old. All of Hawks teams from 2022 and older have way more holdbacks than most teams. They are really a disgusting organization, admin, coaches and parents/fans are really pathetic and disgusting individuals. Just look no further than how they act on this board. Stay the [lacrosse]*k in Annapolis and just play each other every week. You have more than enough holdbacks to make that happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's the first game of the spring seasons. The HAWKS flat out played the Diamondback's lessoned learned. GREAT WIN FOR THE HAWKS great job players . Api/Diamondback parent

I kind of question if this post is from an Api/Diamondback parent. Seem like it's from a Hawks parent/fan. Just look at what is in capital letters.

Thanks Inspector Clouseau

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BLC beat 91
RR beat Next level

Scores posted on hoco site:
Bethesda 8 9-1md 3
Roughriders 11 next Level 4
Hawks 18 diamondbacks 6
Madlax 9 FCA 3

Biggest surprise is 9D1 and FCA only putting up 3.

Hopefully no hard contact with certain players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard the Hawks played several of their 2023's in the second half today because the score got so ugly.

The vaunted "zone defense" of API was dismantled.

And by several of their 2023s, you mean 13 year old holdbacks that should be 2022 got to take the field and play on age...maybe unless double holdback or reclass

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's the first game of the spring seasons. The HAWKS flat out played the Diamondback's lessoned learned. GREAT WIN FOR THE HAWKS great job players . Api/Diamondback parent

I kind of question if this post is from an Api/Diamondback parent. Seem like it's from a Hawks parent/fan. Just look at what is in capital letters.

Thanks Inspector Clouseau

.
No problem snowflake. I knew you would have never figured it out on your own. Now, time to get back to your coloring book. Try to stay in the lines.

I am not a Hawk parent, my kid plays in Philly, but I have seen the 2022 Hawks play many times and they are arguably the best 2022 team in the country. As far as hold backs go I have no idea how many are on each team other then to say that the best 2022 teams usually have a few at least.

Page 9d1

Please take a breath and think about the probability that some clown is posting as if they were a Hawks parent/player. FAKE NEWS (POST)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a Hawk parent, my kid plays in Philly, but I have seen the 2022 Hawks play many times and they are arguably the best 2022 team in the country. As far as hold backs go I have no idea how many are on each team other then to say that the best 2022 teams usually have a few at least.

You must have been watching them at Battle on the Bay on Sunday, when they were playing in the 9th place bracket after losing to the two Long Island teams on Saturday.

[quote=Anonymous]I heard the Hawks played several of their 2023's in the second half today because the score got so ugly.

The vaunted "zone defense" of API was dismantled.

Hawks just scored again...oh the zone!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a Hawk parent, my kid plays in Philly, but I have seen the 2022 Hawks play many times and they are arguably the best 2022 team in the country. As far as hold backs go I have no idea how many are on each team other then to say that the best 2022 teams usually have a few at least.

You must have been watching them at Battle on the Bay on Sunday, when they were playing in the 9th place bracket after losing to the two Long Island teams on Saturday.

They didn't have everyone there that weekend and you know it. There were several players who were taking the SATs and couldn't play that weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a Hawk parent, my kid plays in Philly, but I have seen the 2022 Hawks play many times and they are arguably the best 2022 team in the country. As far as hold backs go I have no idea how many are on each team other then to say that the best 2022 teams usually have a few at least.

You must have been watching them at Battle on the Bay on Sunday, when they were playing in the 9th place bracket after losing to the two Long Island teams on Saturday.

They didn't have everyone there that weekend and you know it. There were several players who were taking the SATs and couldn't play that weekend.

Now that was funny. addressing the holdback issue with a zinger. 7th graders taken the SAT , LMAO

Ok Trump on fake news

Which LI teams do you know?

LI Express is good, Igloo as well, 91 22's are nothing special.

All the top teams are leveling off - kids leave and other teams kidshave played for 5 or 6 years and are catchingoing up. It happens

GHCLC week 2 predictions?

Next Level Black vs. Crabs
Hawks Green vs. Bethesda Blue
Rough Riders vs. Madlax - Capital
FCA Blue vs. Team 91

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which LI teams do you know?

LI Express is good, Igloo as well, 91 22's are nothing special.

All the top teams are leveling off - kids leave and other teams kidshave played for 5 or 6 years and are catchingoing up. It happens

That is an accurate take on the LI teams. Another issue they are facing this spring is that they are preparing for the WSYL qualifier that has an age restriction. Some of the teams (91 in particular) are not using their top (holdback) players and that accelerates the catching up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GHCLC week 2 predictions?

Next Level Black vs. Crabs
Hawks Green vs. Bethesda Blue
Rough Riders vs. Madlax - Capital
FCA Blue vs. Team 91

Crabs, Hawks, Madlax, FCA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GHCLC week 2 predictions?

Next Level Black vs. Crabs
Hawks Green vs. Bethesda Blue
Rough Riders vs. Madlax - Capital
FCA Blue vs. Team 91

Crabs
Bethesda
Rough Riders
FCA

Don't forget the Hold Ups!!!! LOL

Would your team be better off without dad coaches and why? Don't name your club.

My son has had both. I will say that his team was much better off with the dad coach. He really cared about the kids and their families. He was dedicated to the team and gave it his full attention.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would your team be better off without dad coaches and why? Don't name your club.

Totally depends on the coach and how objective he can be. There are good and bad examples out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would your team be better off without dad coaches and why? Don't name your club.

I think it comes down to the skill level of the Dads kid. If the Dads kid is the best player or at least a clear cut starter things tend to go well. Its when the Dad is coaching to improve his sons spot on the team. Like if he should be the 5th attackman but plays 2 full quarters. Or the 7th middie but is in the game with 2min left and a 7-7 tie. The coach has to be smart enough to take his son out first the second the team is up by 5 or more goals or to yell at his son for talking first to send a clear message that my son is getting more heat not a free ride. He can explain this to his son in the car ride home but he needs to show the other boys he is fair.

Club teams that have Dad coaches at this age group are very qualified coaches that have found a lot of success in recent years. It is there job to be fair with all players including their own. Tough job yes, but I think for the most part the dads on the sidelines in club 2022 which there is a lot of do a great job and are fair. The practice field at this level usually tends to make things FAIR on its own and it's hard to hide from favoritism. Rec and other divisions might be easier to do. Coaches kids are also for the most part deserving of the playing time and again the the production at practice and games makes it hard for favoritism.

The dads coaching in the 2022 Elite , AA, A teams is pretty awesome

There are good coaches and bad coaches. Both tend to reproduce. Irrelevant whether or not a kid is on his Dad's team, unless you got one of the bad coaches. Good coaches know how to seamlessly coach through the situation.

The bigger issue at this age group is the lack of individual skill instruction.

Most of the coaching is focused on team based concepts which is important, however there should also be a huge focus on individual skills including the proper way to handle a stick, how to execute different dodges, shooting, feeding, finishing in tight, defensive fundamentals, etc...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bigger issue at this age group is the lack of individual skill instruction.

Most of the coaching is focused on team based concepts which is important, however there should also be a huge focus on individual skills including the proper way to handle a stick, how to execute different dodges, shooting, feeding, finishing in tight, defensive fundamentals, etc...

I guess that depends on what club. My son's club has focused a great deal on individual skills over the last few months.

Most coaches sons that I know are pretty darned good players. The only bad coaches that my son has had were daddy coaches during one season of rec ball. My kid ditched that team (mid season) and went to a quality club team. (Dad coached)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most coaches sons that I know are pretty darned good players. The only bad coaches that my son has had were daddy coaches during one season of rec ball. My kid ditched that team (mid season) and went to a quality club team. (Dad coached)

Ditched that team...way to show your kid how to keep a commitment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most coaches sons that I know are pretty darned good players. The only bad coaches that my son has had were daddy coaches during one season of rec ball. My kid ditched that team (mid season) and went to a quality club team. (Dad coached)

Ditched that team...way to show your kid how to keep a commitment.

I agree. "Ditched the team". What a [lacrosse].

What an idiot

Any scores from today?

Hawks over BLC in OT 7 to 6
91 over FCA 6 to 3
RR over madlax 11 to 6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any scores from today?

Were there games today?

Wasn't the qualifier for Denver this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any scores from today?

Were there games today?

Wasn't the qualifier for Denver this weekend?

Much better games in the Howard County league than any tourney happening elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any scores from today?

Were there games today?

Wasn't the qualifier for Denver this weekend?

API won

Denver is a joke.

16 year olds weren't eligible to play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

16 year olds weren't eligible to play

But the B team were. Lol

Not hating just saying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any scores from today?

Were there games today?

Wasn't the qualifier for Denver this weekend?

API won

Against a bunch of B teams. 18 goals vs Hawks elite team not so much. Is it to late for API to drop down to the B division in hoco league

Crabs vs Next Level score?

HOCO league was great today. The hawks/blc game was great. Hawks win in OT.

Could not believe RR handed Madlax like they were nothing. Very impressed by RR

91 and FCA game was good. FCA is looks very flat.

No crabs game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any scores from today?

Were there games today?

Wasn't the qualifier for Denver this weekend?

Much better games in the Howard County league than any tourney happening elsewhere.

WSYL Qualifier Results:
North (Long Island)
1) Igloo
2) T9-1
3) Express
4) Leg-a-Z
5) Prime Time
6) Eclipse

East (MD-NJ-PA)
1) Diamondbacks
2) Brotherly Love
3) Tri-State
4) BBL
5) Black Storm
6) Mad Dog

Why was the Crabs v Next Level game cancelled today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why was the Crabs v Next Level game cancelled today?

I heard Crabs was worried about losing and made up an excuse.

NL did not have enough kids....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why was the Crabs v Next Level game cancelled today?

I heard Crabs was worried about losing and made up an excuse.

No all were busy with getting their drivers licenses. Be back next week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any scores from today?

Were there games today?

Wasn't the qualifier for Denver this weekend?

Much better games in the Howard County league than any tourney happening elsewhere.

WSYL Qualifier Results:
North (Long Island)
1) Igloo
2) T9-1
3) Express
4) Leg-a-Z
5) Prime Time
6) Eclipse

East (MD-NJ-PA)
1) Diamondbacks
2) Brotherly Love
3) Tri-State
4) BBL
5) Black Storm
6) Mad Dog

Wow - almost zero support for this event from all the MD teams.

The Hawks could have sent there 2024 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Hawks could have sent there 2024 team.

Just imagine what the Crabs and FCA could have done then....

WOW is right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any scores from today?

Were there games today?

Wasn't the qualifier for Denver this weekend?

Much better games in the Howard County league than any tourney happening elsewhere.

WSYL Qualifier Results:
North (Long Island)
1) Igloo
2) T9-1
3) Express
4) Leg-a-Z
5) Prime Time
6) Eclipse

East (MD-NJ-PA)
1) Diamondbacks
2) Brotherly Love
3) Tri-State
4) BBL
5) Black Storm
6) Mad Dog

Wow - almost zero support for this event from all the MD teams.

Just like the BS [lacrosse]'s tournament in Florida, this event is always 1-2 good teams and the rest are marginal ones. Not worth it unless you are dying to take a family trip to CO.

This is the best 2022 teams on true age base team 's in lacrosse . It shows you how other teams are not that good without holdbacks.
Hawks
FCA
Rough riders
Crabs
Bethesda

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is the best 2022 teams on true age base team 's in lacrosse . It shows you how other teams are not that good without holdbacks.
Hawks
FCA
Rough riders
Crabs
Bethesda

Yawn. Fart..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is the best 2022 teams on true age base team 's in lacrosse . It shows you how other teams are not that good without holdbacks.
Hawks
FCA
Rough riders
Crabs
Bethesda

Does it show you. Lol

Dumb. Cry babies

These teams can only win with their hold backs and you know it's true.I would like to see how Hawks, FCA ,
Crabs , Bethesda and Rough Riders play without their hold backs . They can't win .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is the best 2022 teams on true age base team 's in lacrosse . It shows you how other teams are not that good without holdbacks.
Hawks
FCA
Rough riders
Crabs
Bethesda

Does it show you. Lol

Dumb. Cry babies

On spring break? Read a book.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These teams can only win with their hold backs and you know it's true.I would like to see how Hawks, FCA ,
Crabs , Bethesda and Rough Riders play without their hold backs . They can't win .

Snore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These teams can only win with their hold backs and you know it's true.I would like to see how Hawks, FCA ,
Crabs , Bethesda and Rough Riders play without their hold backs . They can't win .

A purely public school league would be worse than watching paint dry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is the best 2022 teams on true age base team 's in lacrosse . It shows you how other teams are not that good without holdbacks.
Hawks
FCA
Rough riders
Crabs
Bethesda

Diamondbacks has holdbacks as well. They just ditched them for WSYL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is the best 2022 teams on true age base team 's in lacrosse . It shows you how other teams are not that good without holdbacks.
Hawks
FCA
Rough riders
Crabs
Bethesda

We'll never know because none of those teams play in an age based league or participate in age based tournaments. All clubs take the best kids that meet the eligibility for the league and vast majority of tournaments. If you want to play age based, join a rec team and play Dicks TOC, USL Nationals, and WSYL. Have fun playing with the competition at that level, but you realize that it is not the highest level.

Why is that not the highest level because you can't cheat .. you can't have 14 or 15 year beating up on 12 and 13 years old .. yeah that's the best lacrosse that comes from teams that has holdbacks and parents of holdbacks . API / Diamondbacks always plays in top compentation no matter what the out come is .. hoco elite division and tournaments ... you guys from MD should be happy that they are representing MD in WSYL

AMEN!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is the best 2022 teams on true age base team 's in lacrosse . It shows you how other teams are not that good without holdbacks.
Hawks
FCA
Rough riders
Crabs
Bethesda

We'll never know because none of those teams play in an age based league or participate in age based tournaments. All clubs take the best kids that meet the eligibility for the league and vast majority of tournaments. If you want to play age based, join a rec team and play Dicks TOC, USL Nationals, and WSYL. Have fun playing with the competition at that level, but you realize that it is not the highest level.

The top teams are predominantly private school kids at this point, so maybe the complaint should be that the public school kids are forcing more mediocre teams and diluting the talent in the grade-based league/s. Maybe the government should add pre-first, instead of following the same system for 100 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is that not the highest level because you can't cheat .. you can't have 14 or 15 year beating up on 12 and 13 years old .. yeah that's the best lacrosse that comes from teams that has holdbacks and parents of holdbacks . API / Diamondbacks always plays in top compentation no matter what the out come is .. hoco elite division and tournaments ... you guys from MD should be happy that they are representing MD in WSYL

Diamondbacks has holdbacks too. They just aren't playing in the WYSL or it's qualifiers.

Who says MD Teams are not happy for D-Backs ? You can't prove or justify comments about 2022 teams having 14 and 15 year olds on them, Your argument loses all credit when you start spewing crap like that. Do some of these teams have 13 year olds yes, but I do not know one team that has 14 or 15 year olds on them . Teams do have to prove birth year and grad year fro EVERY SINGLE tournament or league game .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who says MD Teams are not happy for D-Backs ? You can't prove or justify comments about 2022 teams having 14 and 15 year olds on them, Your argument loses all credit when you start spewing crap like that. Do some of these teams have 13 year olds yes, but I do not know one team that has 14 or 15 year olds on them . Teams do have to prove birth year and grad year fro EVERY SINGLE tournament or league game .

I think most people are just unhappy with this event billing itself as a world championship when 80% of the top talent is not participating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who says MD Teams are not happy for D-Backs ? You can't prove or justify comments about 2022 teams having 14 and 15 year olds on them, Your argument loses all credit when you start spewing crap like that. Do some of these teams have 13 year olds yes, but I do not know one team that has 14 or 15 year olds on them . Teams do have to prove birth year and grad year fro EVERY SINGLE tournament or league game .

I think most people are just unhappy with this event billing itself as a world championship when 80% of the top talent is not participating.

Say and believe what you want. The simple fact of the matter is that the WSYL event is an awesome experience. Every player on my son's team and every family had a great time in Denver. Even with the 5/1 cutoff last year, MD teams could not compete with LI teams. This year with the 9/1 cutoff, MD teams will be at even more of a disadvantage because most MD 2022 teams have multiple players that are to old. It says a lot about what teams are competing in the qualifier and it says even more looking at those teams that aren't competing. Really very funny. My 2021 son just missed the cutoff this year and dominates 2021 along with his team. He has a July 03 birthday. How would he and his team do against 2022 teams loaded with pre-first his same age? LOL. Keep making excuses and hold your son back again next year.

Please stop acting like LI teams are so much better than MD teams, and that LI teams don't have holdbacks. Your best team Igloo split apart team so they could recruit other talent to bring to Denver. Maryland has different rules and every team follows those rules. 'Dominate' . 2021 and 2022 LI teams are good but to say they Dominate is a far cry from the truth. MD teams not going to Denver do not want to split up their teams or leave off kids playing all year with team. In Maryland, club teams all play within the rules and it is by far the best competition in the country. Every week, every weekend, indoor and out . That is a fact ! Another fact is that the Best Competition for this AGE-GRADE based teams are not going to Denver. Chop it up how you want but that is the facts. The last comment about 80% is spot on. That leaves LI teams at a very small percentage of top teams in the country.

ps
We all hope to see your son and his team Dominate this year. Is he committed yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop acting like LI teams are so much better than MD teams, and that LI teams don't have holdbacks. Your best team Igloo split apart team so they could recruit other talent to bring to Denver. Maryland has different rules and every team follows those rules. 'Dominate' . 2021 and 2022 LI teams are good but to say they Dominate is a far cry from the truth. MD teams not going to Denver do not want to split up their teams or leave off kids playing all year with team. In Maryland, club teams all play within the rules and it is by far the best competition in the country. Every week, every weekend, indoor and out . That is a fact ! Another fact is that the Best Competition for this AGE-GRADE based teams are not going to Denver. Chop it up how you want but that is the facts. The last comment about 80% is spot on. That leaves LI teams at a very small percentage of top teams in the country.

ps
We all hope to see your son and his team Dominate this year. Is he committed yet?

You can sum up all you wrote much easier...

Maryland dominate YOUTH Teams are loaded with kids that are holdbacks/reclassed/prefirsts .. They cant attend due to that.. Really Simple..

[quote=Anonymous]Please stop acting like LI teams are so much better than MD teams, and that LI teams don't have holdbacks. Your best team Igloo split apart team so they could recruit other talent to bring to Denver. Maryland has different rules and every team follows those rules. 'Dominate' . 2021 and 2022 LI teams are good but to say they Dominate is a far cry from the truth. MD teams not going to Denver do not want to split up their teams or leave off kids playing all year with team. In Maryland, club teams all play within the rules and it is by far the best competition in the country. Every week, every weekend, indoor and out . That is a fact ! Another fact is that the Best Competition for this AGE-GRADE based teams are not going to Denver. Chop it up how you want but that is the facts. The last comment about 80% is spot on. That leaves LI teams at a very small percentage of top teams in the country.

ps
We all hope to see your son and his team Dominate this year. Is he committed yet? [/quote

Facts? Look guy, proof from an age based tournament is staring you in the face..... 2016 WSYL. 3 LI teams in semis. 0 MD teams in semis. That appears to be 75% of the teams in the semis from LI or according to you a very small percentage of the top teams in the country. Like I said, my son is 13. He will be 17 when he graduates from High School. No he is not committed. Is your 14 year old 7th grader committed?

Let's get back to discussing the real competition next weekend. Bethesda is for real. API back in league action after qualifying for WSYL. RR surprisingly 2-0. Will Next Level have enough kids? Which Team 91 will show up? Can FCA rebound against Hawks? Does Madlax win the battle for MoCo? Crabs finally gets into the action vs. API.

Bethesda Blue vs. Rough Riders
API Diamondbacks vs. Next Level Black
Rough Riders vs. Team 91
Hawks Green vs. FCA - Blue
Next Level Black vs. Madlax - Capital
Crabs vs. API Diamondbacks

Tough drawl for RR this week.

Let's see if crabs can finally get a game in.

Predictions
BLC
API
RR
HAWKS
MAD
CRABS

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

Originally Posted by Anonymous

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

It is within the rules according to all parents of kids that playdown. And the rest of us should be happy to be playing against older competition. Of course they dont take their own advice.

Buyer beware if you are signing up for the Warrior AA tryouts. If 91 is involved don't bother.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I listened to the speech from the coaches to parents at the end about some players submitting tape that couldn't make it. Total BS. Did anyone see something about players sending in video to make the team? Didn't think so.

This is another 9d1 crap, Not a fair

Channy is the 2022 coach - this is so he can put his boys who were away for Spring Break (or playing the Syosset Shootout) on the squad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

80% of the top teams do not want to break up their teams to follow the arbitrary age cut off rules for one event that is expensive to travel to and does not have good competition .... even though your fees pay for it to be on ESPN and also pay for a lot of swag.

Instead of paying for great competition, you are paying for a unique experience. It just depends what your priorities are - Do you value team unity or do you value tv exposure and swag?

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

Then you get the week off and your club fees go to subsidizing the kids that do play at wsyl.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

80% of the top teams do not want to break up their teams to follow the arbitrary age cut off rules for one event that is expensive to travel to and does not have good competition .... even though your fees pay for it to be on ESPN and also pay for a lot of swag.

Instead of paying for great competition, you are paying for a unique experience. It just depends what your priorities are - Do you value team unity or do you value tv exposure and swag?

my priority is to see my kid play against kids his own age and see where he "really" stacks up. when you hold your kid back or play him down what is your priority?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

if you DON'T MEET WSYLAX AGE REQUIREMENT THEN YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT A 2022!!! Do you understand now!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

play on your correct 2021 team.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

80% of the top teams do not want to break up their teams to follow the arbitrary age cut off rules for one event that is expensive to travel to and does not have good competition .... even though your fees pay for it to be on ESPN and also pay for a lot of swag.

Instead of paying for great competition, you are paying for a unique experience. It just depends what your priorities are - Do you value team unity or do you value tv exposure and swag?

Attendance. According to Maryland law (7-301: Compulsory Attendance), every child between the ages of 5 and 17 must attend school. All children who will be 5 years old by September 1 of any given year must attend school in either a licensed private or public school Kindergarten that year.Sep 1, 2016

Hhhmmm, I wonder where US Lax and WSYLAX got their magical age cut off date to exclude your poor MD kid!!!! Ignorance is bliss........

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

if you DON'T MEET WSYLAX AGE REQUIREMENT THEN YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT A 2022!!! Do you understand now!!!!!!!

I have a son that just turned twelve last month. He is in 7th grade but he was accelerated and skipped 2nd grade. He had been playing with the 2023s until this year when Howard County said he must play 2022. Is he definitely not a 2022 or is he a 2022 because that is his graduating class?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

80% of the top teams do not want to break up their teams to follow the arbitrary age cut off rules for one event that is expensive to travel to and does not have good competition .... even though your fees pay for it to be on ESPN and also pay for a lot of swag.

Instead of paying for great competition, you are paying for a unique experience. It just depends what your priorities are - Do you value team unity or do you value tv exposure and swag?

Attendance. According to Maryland law (7-301: Compulsory Attendance), every child between the ages of 5 and 17 must attend school. All children who will be 5 years old by September 1 of any given year must attend school in either a licensed private or public school Kindergarten that year.Sep 1, 2016

Hhhmmm, I wonder where US Lax and WSYLAX got their magical age cut off date to exclude your poor MD kid!!!! Ignorance is bliss........

Love how NY parents will complain about MD teams having older players on one hand and then begrudgingly admit that the WSYL tourney is no better than the average summer tourney without MD teams. Just go dominate the 2nd rate on-age competition and come home with some sweet gear. Don't worry about MD parents and their kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

if you DON'T MEET WSYLAX AGE REQUIREMENT THEN YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT A 2022!!! Do you understand now!!!!!!!

No. 2022 is not an age, so I don't understand. But, if you are in the class of 2022 today, you are in 7th grade. Do you understand?????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

if you DON'T MEET WSYLAX AGE REQUIREMENT THEN YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT A 2022!!! Do you understand now!!!!!!!

I have a son that just turned twelve last month. He is in 7th grade but he was accelerated and skipped 2nd grade. He had been playing with the 2023s until this year when Howard County said he must play 2022. Is he definitely not a 2022 or is he a 2022 because that is his graduating class?

If he is in 7th grade, he should be playing with 2022. In a league with grad based teams, your kid's age means squat. He is DEFINITELY a 2022 if he is in 7th grade.

So the kid is penalized atheletically for being ahead academically. That is stupid. You don't see many of these so I would be very proud.
Looks like the kid is smarter than this poster. Lol.

Express fogo plays 2022 and he did not qualify for WSYL. And the kicker is he's not even from LI. He is in the 100 mile limit though. Funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

if you DON'T MEET WSYLAX AGE REQUIREMENT THEN YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT A 2022!!! Do you understand now!!!!!!!

I have a son that just turned twelve last month. He is in 7th grade but he was accelerated and skipped 2nd grade. He had been playing with the 2023s until this year when Howard County said he must play 2022. Is he definitely not a 2022 or is he a 2022 because that is his graduating class?

If he is in 7th grade, he should be playing with 2022. In a league with grad based teams, your kid's age means squat. He is DEFINITELY a 2022 if he is in 7th grade.

My question was in response to the previous poster who said if you don't meet the age requirement for WSYL, then you are definitely not a 2022. The point being that it works both ways. 2022 is 2022 whether younger, older or we like it or not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

80% of the top teams do not want to break up their teams to follow the arbitrary age cut off rules for one event that is expensive to travel to and does not have good competition .... even though your fees pay for it to be on ESPN and also pay for a lot of swag.

Instead of paying for great competition, you are paying for a unique experience. It just depends what your priorities are - Do you value team unity or do you value tv exposure and swag?

Attendance. According to Maryland law (7-301: Compulsory Attendance), every child between the ages of 5 and 17 must attend school. All children who will be 5 years old by September 1 of any given year must attend school in either a licensed private or public school Kindergarten that year.Sep 1, 2016

Hhhmmm, I wonder where US Lax and WSYLAX got their magical age cut off date to exclude your poor MD kid!!!! Ignorance is bliss........

They probably got it from a different magical place than last year when it was May 1. Sounds arbitrary to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

if you DON'T MEET WSYLAX AGE REQUIREMENT THEN YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT A 2022!!! Do you understand now!!!!!!!

I have a son that just turned twelve last month. He is in 7th grade but he was accelerated and skipped 2nd grade. He had been playing with the 2023s until this year when Howard County said he must play 2022. Is he definitely not a 2022 or is he a 2022 because that is his graduating class?

If he is in 7th grade, he should be playing with 2022. In a league with grad based teams, your kid's age means squat. He is DEFINITELY a 2022 if he is in 7th grade.

My question was in response to the previous poster who said if you don't meet the age requirement for WSYL, then you are definitely not a 2022. The point being that it works both ways. 2022 is 2022 whether younger, older or we like it or not.

I misunderstood. Sorry about that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a son that just turned twelve last month. He is in 7th grade but he was accelerated and skipped 2nd grade. He had been playing with the 2023s until this year when Howard County said he must play 2022. Is he definitely not a 2022 or is he a 2022 because that is his graduating class?

If he is in 7th grade, he should be playing with 2022. In a league with grad based teams, your kid's age means squat. He is DEFINITELY a 2022 if he is in 7th grade.

My question was in response to the previous poster who said if you don't meet the age requirement for WSYL, then you are definitely not a 2022. The point being that it works both ways. 2022 is 2022 whether younger, older or we like it or not.

I misunderstood. Sorry about that.

Not a problem.

Has anyone head regarding the Warrior tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone head regarding the Warrior tryouts?

It sounds like the Warrior National Prospect Invite is through a nomination and review process and it is for older kids.

This is what the site says "The search for the best 2019 , 2020 and 2021 lacrosse players begins with online nominations."

Also, with the new ruling by the NCAA on recruiting, it probably makes the most sense to wait until your kid is at least graduating 9th grade before even considering these events.

I can't imagine a college coach tracking 8th or even 9th graders when they can't even talk to them until the September after they graduate 10th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

if you DON'T MEET WSYLAX AGE REQUIREMENT THEN YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT A 2022!!! Do you understand now!!!!!!!

WYSL is a U13 event much like most Rec leagues. 2022 is a graduation year totally independent of how WSYL and Rec leagues run their events.

WYSL's website says "A select group of U13 Boys lacrosse teams was invited to compete in three days of games against some of the best teams in the country".

Notice how is says "some of the best teams in the country" because the vast majority of the best teams are not there because they are 2022 teams and not U13 teams.

Most 2022 kids are U13 compliant, but many are not.

You are confusing the two. You can 2022 and still be either U13 or U14.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

if you DON'T MEET WSYLAX AGE REQUIREMENT THEN YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT A 2022!!! Do you understand now!!!!!!!

WYSL is a U13 event much like most Rec leagues. 2022 is a graduation year totally independent of how WSYL and Rec leagues run their events.

WYSL's website says "A select group of U13 Boys lacrosse teams was invited to compete in three days of games against some of the best teams in the country".

Notice how is says "some of the best teams in the country" because the vast majority of the best teams are not there because they are 2022 teams and not U13 teams.

Most 2022 kids are U13 compliant, but many are not.

You are confusing the two. You can 2022 and still be either U13 or U14.

And since it is grade based...You also can still be a U15, and even U16, U17 technically.. Technically there is NO age limit.

That is why the largest youth sport in world did away with all grade base teams and went to strict U base teams for competitive play. Biggest problem with grade base was to much unfair looks at players that were 1-3 years older than the majority of players. Just doesnt seem right..

But in the youth lacrosse world we let only a select group of kids play down to accommodate this minority of holdbacks/prefirst/reclassed players. Just doesnt seem right.

Stanwick family of lacrosse players wrote the book. 20 yr old college freshman...every 'S' child

Just on the Warrior website and there is a picture of an express player as a player of the week. 2022. Also says how that player will be competing for LI in the Warrior games. Funny how that was from November and the tryouts were last weekend!!!!!! We were all taken for our tryout $$.team was all ready picked. I wish someone would run a team that is made on merit. Not who you know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

if you DON'T MEET WSYLAX AGE REQUIREMENT THEN YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT A 2022!!! Do you understand now!!!!!!!

WYSL is a U13 event much like most Rec leagues. 2022 is a graduation year totally independent of how WSYL and Rec leagues run their events.

WYSL's website says "A select group of U13 Boys lacrosse teams was invited to compete in three days of games against some of the best teams in the country".

Notice how is says "some of the best teams in the country" because the vast majority of the best teams are not there because they are 2022 teams and not U13 teams.

Most 2022 kids are U13 compliant, but many are not.

You are confusing the two. You can 2022 and still be either U13 or U14.

And since it is grade based...You also can still be a U15, and even U16, U17 technically.. Technically there is NO age limit.

That is why the largest youth sport in world did away with all grade base teams and went to strict U base teams for competitive play. Biggest problem with grade base was to much unfair looks at players that were 1-3 years older than the majority of players. Just doesnt seem right..

But in the youth lacrosse world we let only a select group of kids play down to accommodate this minority of holdbacks/prefirst/reclassed players. Just doesnt seem right.

Fortunately, now that NCAA prohibits coaches and players from talking till Junior year, the holdback thing is a non-issue since the playing field levels out by then. So please stop your crying about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

80% of the top teams do not want to break up their teams to follow the arbitrary age cut off rules for one event that is expensive to travel to and does not have good competition .... even though your fees pay for it to be on ESPN and also pay for a lot of swag.

Instead of paying for great competition, you are paying for a unique experience. It just depends what your priorities are - Do you value team unity or do you value tv exposure and swag?

Attendance. According to Maryland law (7-301: Compulsory Attendance), every child between the ages of 5 and 17 must attend school. All children who will be 5 years old by September 1 of any given year must attend school in either a licensed private or public school Kindergarten that year.Sep 1, 2016

Hhhmmm, I wonder where US Lax and WSYLAX got their magical age cut off date to exclude your poor MD kid!!!! Ignorance is bliss........

My son"s birthday is 12th of Sept 2003 and a teammate,classmate since kindergartens bday is last week of August 2003 they play on the same team for 3 sports . Every teacher and school believe they are in the exact grade they should be in.(as was recommended from the start of school).They are both average size boys for their age and are exactly where they should be. They play every sport according to the rules provided. They have teammates born the last week of August 2004, you wouldn't know the difference. Hence some kids on some teams just miss this cut off by days and some just make it. Our kids also play u13 for every other sport and play against older kids all the time. They love it . To act like they are so much more superior or talented is a joke. 1 more year and High School gets in and you sure won't hear us complaining about playing against 17,18 and 19 year olds. Lets not act like every kid not making the cut off for one tournament is a cheater. Coaches and teams have rosters with kids that fall under the club , league and 99% of every tournaments rule book. There are intentional reclass and holdbacks out there sure but to continue to whine a cry about it on here is funny and silly. The best U13 and 2022 teams clearly are not attending the WSYL . Good luck to the teams that are going it will be a lot of fun. We are bummed about not going .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

80% of the top teams do not want to break up their teams to follow the arbitrary age cut off rules for one event that is expensive to travel to and does not have good competition .... even though your fees pay for it to be on ESPN and also pay for a lot of swag.

Instead of paying for great competition, you are paying for a unique experience. It just depends what your priorities are - Do you value team unity or do you value tv exposure and swag?

Attendance. According to Maryland law (7-301: Compulsory Attendance), every child between the ages of 5 and 17 must attend school. All children who will be 5 years old by September 1 of any given year must attend school in either a licensed private or public school Kindergarten that year.Sep 1, 2016

Hhhmmm, I wonder where US Lax and WSYLAX got their magical age cut off date to exclude your poor MD kid!!!! Ignorance is bliss........

My son"s birthday is 12th of Sept 2003 and a teammate,classmate since kindergartens bday is last week of August 2003 they play on the same team for 3 sports . Every teacher and school believe they are in the exact grade they should be in.(as was recommended from the start of school).They are both average size boys for their age and are exactly where they should be. They play every sport according to the rules provided. They have teammates born the last week of August 2004, you wouldn't know the difference. Hence some kids on some teams just miss this cut off by days and some just make it. Our kids also play u13 for every other sport and play against older kids all the time. They love it . To act like they are so much more superior or talented is a joke. 1 more year and High School gets in and you sure won't hear us complaining about playing against 17,18 and 19 year olds. Lets not act like every kid not making the cut off for one tournament is a cheater. Coaches and teams have rosters with kids that fall under the club , league and 99% of every tournaments rule book. There are intentional reclass and holdbacks out there sure but to continue to whine a cry about it on here is funny and silly. The best U13 and 2022 teams clearly are not attending the WSYL . Good luck to the teams that are going it will be a lot of fun. We are bummed about not going .

You wouldn't be so happy if your son was born in June and July 2004 and had to compete against and play constantly children the age of your child and his friend during their youth lacrosse days.. But I see you dont mind if they do. They must be moaners.

The MAJORITY of children dont get the chance like your child's friend. Somehow you apologists always dont mind certain select kids being the oldest the entire time they play YOUTH sports.

"Our kids also play u13 for every other sport and play against older kids all the time. They love it " Your child and your child's friend are always the oldest unless playing other holdback children?? But the majority of kids dont get your child'd friend choice of being the oldest.They are always the youngest during youth lacrosse.
You are full of it about playing against older children at U13..You are the oldest.

Rediculous. SMH

Does it? So a 19 year old senior doesn't have an advantage on a 17 year old Senior? Head in the sand

Whiner

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rediculous. SMH

Bad speller. SMH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whiner

So you agree? Good

If you reclassed your kid it's all good. Just don't go around bragging about how great he is when an actuality he is older than the kids he competes against. He should be better. No brainer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it? So a 19 year old senior doesn't have an advantage on a 17 year old Senior? Head in the sand

If you are still stuck on this argument as a Senior, I contend that it may be your head in the sand, as to whether or not you should still be playing this game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rediculous. SMH

Bad speller. SMH

Whiner

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you try out for a 2022 team make that team than your team decides to play in the wsyl and you do not make the age requirement. What next ?

if you DON'T MEET WSYLAX AGE REQUIREMENT THEN YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT A 2022!!! Do you understand now!!!!!!!

WYSL is a U13 event much like most Rec leagues. 2022 is a graduation year totally independent of how WSYL and Rec leagues run their events.

WYSL's website says "A select group of U13 Boys lacrosse teams was invited to compete in three days of games against some of the best teams in the country".

Notice how is says "some of the best teams in the country" because the vast majority of the best teams are not there because they are 2022 teams and not U13 teams.

Most 2022 kids are U13 compliant, but many are not.

You are confusing the two. You can 2022 and still be either U13 or U14.

yes if you are a holdback!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

80% of the top teams do not want to break up their teams to follow the arbitrary age cut off rules for one event that is expensive to travel to and does not have good competition .... even though your fees pay for it to be on ESPN and also pay for a lot of swag.

Instead of paying for great competition, you are paying for a unique experience. It just depends what your priorities are - Do you value team unity or do you value tv exposure and swag?

Attendance. According to Maryland law (7-301: Compulsory Attendance), every child between the ages of 5 and 17 must attend school. All children who will be 5 years old by September 1 of any given year must attend school in either a licensed private or public school Kindergarten that year.Sep 1, 2016

Hhhmmm, I wonder where US Lax and WSYLAX got their magical age cut off date to exclude your poor MD kid!!!! Ignorance is bliss........

Love how NY parents will complain about MD teams having older players on one hand and then begrudgingly admit that the WSYL tourney is no better than the average summer tourney without MD teams. Just go dominate the 2nd rate on-age competition and come home with some sweet gear. Don't worry about MD parents and their kids.

lol!!!!! that's your comeback what are you 14 or in 7th grade!!!!! Typical!!!!!!

unless you are a hold back and should really be a 2021! so dense...

no con

Originally Posted by Anonymous

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

80% of the top teams do not want to break up their teams to follow the arbitrary age cut off rules for one event that is expensive to travel to and does not have good competition .... even though your fees pay for it to be on ESPN and also pay for a lot of swag.

Instead of paying for great competition, you are paying for a unique experience. It just depends what your priorities are - Do you value team unity or do you value tv exposure and swag?

Attendance. According to Maryland law (7-301: Compulsory Attendance), every child between the ages of 5 and 17 must attend school. All children who will be 5 years old by September 1 of any given year must attend school in either a licensed private or public school Kindergarten that year.Sep 1, 2016

Hhhmmm, I wonder where US Lax and WSYLAX got their magical age cut off date to exclude your poor MD kid!!!! Ignorance is bliss........

My son"s birthday is 12th of Sept 2003 and a teammate,classmate since kindergartens bday is last week of August 2003 they play on the same team for 3 sports . Every teacher and school believe they are in the exact grade they should be in.(as was recommended from the start of school).They are both average size boys for their age and are exactly where they should be. They play every sport according to the rules provided. They have teammates born the last week of August 2004, you wouldn't know the difference. Hence some kids on some teams just miss this cut off by days and some just make it. Our kids also play u13 for every other sport and play against older kids all the time. They love it . To act like they are so much more superior or talented is a joke. 1 more year and High School gets in and you sure won't hear us complaining about playing against 17,18 and 19 year olds. Lets not act like every kid not making the cut off for one tournament is a cheater. Coaches and teams have rosters with kids that fall under the club , league and 99% of every tournaments rule book. There are intentional reclass and holdbacks out there sure but to continue to whine a cry about it on here is funny and silly. The best U13 and 2022 teams clearly are not attending the WSYL . Good luck to the teams that are going it will be a lot of fun. We are bummed about not going .

the MD teams not going because without their overage holdbacks they can't compete. Yes smart for them not to go but you know it's because you can't compete on age!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

80% of the top teams do not want to break up their teams to follow the arbitrary age cut off rules for one event that is expensive to travel to and does not have good competition .... even though your fees pay for it to be on ESPN and also pay for a lot of swag.

Instead of paying for great competition, you are paying for a unique experience. It just depends what your priorities are - Do you value team unity or do you value tv exposure and swag?

Attendance. According to Maryland law (7-301: Compulsory Attendance), every child between the ages of 5 and 17 must attend school. All children who will be 5 years old by September 1 of any given year must attend school in either a licensed private or public school Kindergarten that year.Sep 1, 2016

Hhhmmm, I wonder where US Lax and WSYLAX got their magical age cut off date to exclude your poor MD kid!!!! Ignorance is bliss........

Love how NY parents will complain about MD teams having older players on one hand and then begrudgingly admit that the WSYL tourney is no better than the average summer tourney without MD teams. Just go dominate the 2nd rate on-age competition and come home with some sweet gear. Don't worry about MD parents and their kids.

lol!!!!! that's your comeback what are you 14 or in 7th grade!!!!! Typical!!!!!!

Yes. Both 14 and in 7th grade. My birthday is coming up soon too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

no con

Originally Posted by Anonymous

80% percent can't play because their to old to play WSYL and you are saying that is top talent . Explain to me how that is top talent .They play younger kids . They can't play their own age that is not top talent ... Sorry top talent is when you play up not down...be proud of your son for beating up younger players... help me understand

80% of the top teams do not want to break up their teams to follow the arbitrary age cut off rules for one event that is expensive to travel to and does not have good competition .... even though your fees pay for it to be on ESPN and also pay for a lot of swag.

Instead of paying for great competition, you are paying for a unique experience. It just depends what your priorities are - Do you value team unity or do you value tv exposure and swag?

Attendance. According to Maryland law (7-301: Compulsory Attendance), every child between the ages of 5 and 17 must attend school. All children who will be 5 years old by September 1 of any given year must attend school in either a licensed private or public school Kindergarten that year.Sep 1, 2016

Hhhmmm, I wonder where US Lax and WSYLAX got their magical age cut off date to exclude your poor MD kid!!!! Ignorance is bliss........

My son"s birthday is 12th of Sept 2003 and a teammate,classmate since kindergartens bday is last week of August 2003 they play on the same team for 3 sports . Every teacher and school believe they are in the exact grade they should be in.(as was recommended from the start of school).They are both average size boys for their age and are exactly where they should be. They play every sport according to the rules provided. They have teammates born the last week of August 2004, you wouldn't know the difference. Hence some kids on some teams just miss this cut off by days and some just make it. Our kids also play u13 for every other sport and play against older kids all the time. They love it . To act like they are so much more superior or talented is a joke. 1 more year and High School gets in and you sure won't hear us complaining about playing against 17,18 and 19 year olds. Lets not act like every kid not making the cut off for one tournament is a cheater. Coaches and teams have rosters with kids that fall under the club , league and 99% of every tournaments rule book. There are intentional reclass and holdbacks out there sure but to continue to whine a cry about it on here is funny and silly. The best U13 and 2022 teams clearly are not attending the WSYL . Good luck to the teams that are going it will be a lot of fun. We are bummed about not going .

the MD teams not going because without their overage holdbacks they can't compete. Yes smart for them not to go but you know it's because you can't compete on age!!!

No going because the only U13 teams in Maryland are rec teams and clubs are not wasting time and money to create a U13 team for one weak tournament when they are preparing for competitive 2022 tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tough drawl for RR this week.

Let's see if crabs can finally get a game in.

Predictions
BLC
API
RR
HAWKS
MAD
CRABS

What are the odds that the Crabs actually play a game this week?

RR 5
Bethesda 8
Final

NL 5
API 13
Final

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RR 5
Bethesda 8
Final

NL 5
API 13
Final

Hawks
Md91
Crabs
All won Sunday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks
Md91
Crabs
All won Sunday

Hawks 8-3 over FCA
Crabs 8-7 over Diamondbacks in OT
MD 91 over Rough Riders 4-3 (goal with 15 seconds left)

Scores?

So after week three. What's everyone's take?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So after week three. What's everyone's take?

Hawks the team to beat.
Bethesda not far behind
Then its wide open all teams about even.
FCA been a disappointment

Hawks
Bethesda
91Md
RR
Crabs
API
FCA
NL

Looneys beat Cannons 8-7. Rock beat VLC 11-3.

Surprisingly, Cannons and VLC are at the bottom of the B (AA) division.

Cannons was A (Elite) last year, and VLC is the Crabs Virginia club.

I would agree with you on the list of teams and the ratings ...

From what we have seen so far at the elite level that looks good.
Crabs will show more and RR has run into some bumps.
FCA who? API looks good and Hawks look great. Fun to watch today. Also the AA games were good. Nice to see great games.

You can't lose Elite/AA players to other clubs over the past two years and replace them with A/B players and expect to compete at the same level and then add in the injuries......

What was the final of Madlax and Next Level?

What happens next year in this league with the age brackets? Isn't US Lacrosse requiring all league to transition to the new age bands? What about kids entering 8th grade that will be too old? Do they set up a U16 league?

No, Dad. US Lacrosse proposes guidelines and those are only enforced at THEIR tournaments. Any league or tournament can do whatever they want.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens next year in this league with the age brackets? Isn't US Lacrosse requiring all league to transition to the new age bands? What about kids entering 8th grade that will be too old? Do they set up a U16 league?

No. Stop.

Any body see API/Crabs OT game yesterday? Impressions?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final of Madlax and Next Level?

MadLax 9 - Next Level 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens next year in this league with the age brackets? Isn't US Lacrosse requiring all league to transition to the new age bands? What about kids entering 8th grade that will be too old? Do they set up a U16 league?

No. Stop.

Howard County already has a Rec league for those wishing to play with age cutoffs. You can choose to play Grade based (Club League) or age based (Rec League). Everyone wins!

everyone wins...seriously...so delusional...holding back is taking advantage anyway you slice it...stealing a spot on a team from a kid thats doing it right...put the pipe down and play your kid on age and see if he stands out

Api/Crabs was a good game

Keep the pipe in your hand and have little johnny play in any one of the many leagues that fits him. Sorry it isn't where you want him to be and its making you feel the way you do . Im sure johnny is just fine where he is and happy. Maybe, just maybe when he gets to High School he can play against kids exactly his own age every year he plays. Heck since the pipe is being passed around maybe that is what the High School and College levels should do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

everyone wins...seriously...so delusional...holding back is taking advantage anyway you slice it...stealing a spot on a team from a kid thats doing it right...put the pipe down and play your kid on age and see if he stands out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

everyone wins...seriously...so delusional...holding back is taking advantage anyway you slice it...stealing a spot on a team from a kid thats doing it right...put the pipe down and play your kid on age and see if he stands out

Stop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any body see API/Crabs OT game yesterday? Impressions?

It was a really good and competitive game. Crabs first game in league, while API 3rd game in league and second game in 3 days. They were the more "prepared" team with a somewhat greater confidence at first. They rolled out the zone and slowed the game down. They controlled faceoffs. Good goal defense kept things close, and as game wore on, Crabs seem to gain confidence and play more loosely.

Also watched RR versus Team 91. Also a very evenly matched and competitive game. RR was up 3-1 but lost 4-3. The RR defense was awesome throughout, but offense was small and overmatched also by a ferocious 91 defense. Neither team has a "dodger" of great ability (sorry Mark) and goals were scored in mostly unsettled situations. #15 on RR defense had three separate breakaways that he failed to score on, and had he been successful even once, I am pretty sure that would have changed momentum. Anyway, two great games. Agree that Hawks/Bethesda are presently at the top of the pyramid with Next Level, FCA at the bottom. Everyone else seems to have the capacity to win any game it plays.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any body see API/Crabs OT game yesterday? Impressions?

It was a really good and competitive game. Crabs first game in league, while API 3rd game in league and second game in 3 days. They were the more "prepared" team with a somewhat greater confidence at first. They rolled out the zone and slowed the game down. They controlled faceoffs. Good goal defense kept things close, and as game wore on, Crabs seem to gain confidence and play more loosely.

Also watched RR versus Team 91. Also a very evenly matched and competitive game. RR was up 3-1 but lost 4-3. The RR defense was awesome throughout, but offense was small and overmatched also by a ferocious 91 defense. Neither team has a "dodger" of great ability (sorry Mark) and goals were scored in mostly unsettled situations. #15 on RR defense had three separate breakaways that he failed to score on, and had he been successful even once, I am pretty sure that would have changed momentum. Anyway, two great games. Agree that Hawks/Bethesda are presently at the top of the pyramid with Next Level, FCA at the bottom. Everyone else seems to have the capacity to win any game it plays.

No great dodgers! Thats gonna hurt!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any body see API/Crabs OT game yesterday? Impressions?

It was a really good and competitive game. Crabs first game in league, while API 3rd game in league and second game in 3 days. They were the more "prepared" team with a somewhat greater confidence at first. They rolled out the zone and slowed the game down. They controlled faceoffs. Good goal defense kept things close, and as game wore on, Crabs seem to gain confidence and play more loosely.

Also watched RR versus Team 91. Also a very evenly matched and competitive game. RR was up 3-1 but lost 4-3. The RR defense was awesome throughout, but offense was small and overmatched also by a ferocious 91 defense. Neither team has a "dodger" of great ability (sorry Mark) and goals were scored in mostly unsettled situations. #15 on RR defense had three separate breakaways that he failed to score on, and had he been successful even once, I am pretty sure that would have changed momentum. Anyway, two great games. Agree that Hawks/Bethesda are presently at the top of the pyramid with Next Level, FCA at the bottom. Everyone else seems to have the capacity to win any game it plays.

No great dodgers! Thats gonna hurt!!

Dodging is hard when the defense is a packed in zone that is very quick to slide. Until these kids start feeding better once the slide comes, the defenses will continue to play this way and no one will look like a great dodger.

What you notice this year is that the teams that have hold backs that are bigger kids are able to break APi/Diamondbacks zone denfense down because the players are smaller . The bigger kid just wears or breaks through the zone .The offense of API is strong but defense is small and can't handle the bigger kids or stronger .I also notice a lot of other club teams are playing zone this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What you notice this year is that the teams that have hold backs that are bigger kids are able to break APi/Diamondbacks zone denfense down because the players are smaller . The bigger kid just wears or breaks through the zone .The offense of API is strong but defense is small and can't handle the bigger kids or stronger .I also notice a lot of other club teams are playing zone this year.

But that is the thing -- in both the Friday night API game I watched against Next Level, and the Sunday API game I watched against Crabs, it wasn't holdback/bigger kids that were doing the scoring against them with very rare exception, but rather teams were scoring in unsettled situation, or where the extra pass was being made. They appear to be a gritty bunch (not an API parent) and were very well coached in the zone being deployed. When a bigger kid came down from top, the zone very effectively collapsed. Scoring from up top occurred twice in the games I observed -- once in the case of Next Level and once in the case of Crabs where the shot came from a severe angle on the run on the right hand side. Where a larger kid had an advantage (?) was in the velocity of the shot as the API goalie did see some heat from those two middies.

Got to give a lot of credit to API defensive coaching regardless of the size of the defenders as that was not an issue in my humble opinion. The scheme made up for 99% of any size differential.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any body see API/Crabs OT game yesterday? Impressions?

It was a really good and competitive game. Crabs first game in league, while API 3rd game in league and second game in 3 days. They were the more "prepared" team with a somewhat greater confidence at first. They rolled out the zone and slowed the game down. They controlled faceoffs. Good goal defense kept things close, and as game wore on, Crabs seem to gain confidence and play more loosely.

Also watched RR versus Team 91. Also a very evenly matched and competitive game. RR was up 3-1 but lost 4-3. The RR defense was awesome throughout, but offense was small and overmatched also by a ferocious 91 defense. Neither team has a "dodger" of great ability (sorry Mark) and goals were scored in mostly unsettled situations. #15 on RR defense had three separate breakaways that he failed to score on, and had he been successful even once, I am pretty sure that would have changed momentum. Anyway, two great games. Agree that Hawks/Bethesda are presently at the top of the pyramid with Next Level, FCA at the bottom. Everyone else seems to have the capacity to win any game it plays.

No great dodgers! Thats gonna hurt!!

Dodging is hard when the defense is a packed in zone that is very quick to slide. Until these kids start feeding better once the slide comes, the defenses will continue to play this way and no one will look like a great dodger.

I wasn't referring to "no great dodgers" in the API/Crabs game. Rather the comment was associated with the RR/91 game in which neither team deployed a zone defense. Both team offenses in that game included a lot of offensive "standing around" and back and forth movement at the "x". 91 had one really good top down cutter at the 3-2 mark which was a thing of beauty, but that was the highlight of offensive play in that game. Hope that clears things up. Completely agree with your point about a zone defense collapsing on a dodger -- very evident in the API/Crabs game -- and the collapsing also eliminated a lot of space to make the pass at the slide as well. I just thought it was a great scheme that evened the skill level of the teams involved, and slowed down the game.

Playing a zone defense at this age in any sport is solely about winning

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing a zone defense at this age in any sport is solely about winning

Travel and club teams are compelled to play to win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing a zone defense at this age in any sport is solely about winning

The nerve of those guys wanting to win...How dare they...What are we teaching them?

Great know there is sideline reporting for 2022 games. Great job and look forward to your comentery next week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing a zone defense at this age in any sport is solely about winning

The nerve of those guys wanting to win...How dare they...What are we teaching them?

Wanting to win is fine. But the previous poster is correct in saying that playing zone in youth is more about getting a schematic advantage rather than teaching the skills of playing defense. The coaches at API/Diamondbacks know that their opponents rarely if ever have a zone offense to counter. They played zone against my sons u11 rec team at beach lax. They only other time I saw a primary zone was with my older 2020 kid playing Diamondbacks. Maybe that's how that club rolls. But I'd rather have my kid be taught how defend one on one and team defensive slide/recover principals. His HS coaches can teach zone when they are playing/practicing 5 days a week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing a zone defense at this age in any sport is solely about winning

There shouldn't be sports, because Hillary lost, and our kids shouldn't have to ever lose.

Those slow feet that they developed learning to play zone will serve them well.

Someone is hung up on Zone Defense. ALL teams should have a zone defense. Its part of the game and a strategy to deploy. No different than locking off a player.

Most colleges are running a zone defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone is hung up on Zone Defense. ALL teams should have a zone defense. Its part of the game and a strategy to deploy. No different than locking off a player.

Most colleges are running a zone defense.

Actually in college, teams play both man and zone and often switch between them as a strategy depending on the personnel and game situation. 100% zone in youth lacrosse is a joke. And what's almost as ridiculous is how offenses/coaches don't understand how to play against a zone. It's done with ball movement and rotation, not static isolation or dodging.

HS T

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone is hung up on Zone Defense. ALL teams should have a zone defense. Its part of the game and a strategy to deploy. No different than locking off a player.

Most colleges are running a zone defense.

HS too

My sons HS team has seen a zone at some point in every game this year.

3-3 or 1-3-2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS T

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone is hung up on Zone Defense. ALL teams should have a zone defense. Its part of the game and a strategy to deploy. No different than locking off a player.

Most colleges are running a zone defense.

HS too

My sons HS team has seen a zone at some point in every game this year.

3-3 or 1-3-2

yes we know HS and colleges run zone. They also have 4 to 6 practices for every game played. Youth is closer to 1 maybe 2 practices for every game. 7th graders are still learning how to play man to man defense well. Guarantee teams that run lots of zone have practices where the coach spends a lot of time talking.

Zone defense gave up 18 goals is it really that good.

It's more then just goals during that game vs the Hawks . The Hawks won flat out And they are a strong team.The Hawks won all the face offs but 3 also they had the ball 36 mins of the game . Api turned the ball over 13 times but ApI shout goal 9 times but scored 7 . The defense got beat up and tried. So it was more then a zone defense issue.

The ship is sinking

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's more then just goals during that game vs the Hawks . The Hawks won flat out And they are a strong team.The Hawks won all the face offs but 3 also they had the ball 36 mins of the game . Api turned the ball over 13 times but ApI shout goal 9 times but scored 7 . The defense got beat up and tried. So it was more then a zone defense issue.

So in other words you go to a youth club lacrosse game, not to watch and enjoy the game but to keep stats on the Hawks team? You are definitely a Hawks dad and a pathetic one at that. "Had the ball 36minutes of the game". OMG give me a break, that is just pathetic. You even keep stats on the other team. "Api turned the ball over 13 times:. Total jerk and butthead. You must be a real joy to have a conversation with about youth club lacrosse. Please just go away.

That's my job .Im the assistant coach dip [lacrosse] ... all teams keep stats

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's my job .Im the assistant coach dip [lacrosse] ... all teams keep stats

API assistant coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's my job .Im the assistant coach dip [lacrosse] ... all teams keep stats

Well dipsh*t, seems like you are not much of an assistant coach. A good, effective and focused assistant coach is coaching the players during a game, not doing clerical duties like you are doing. A good team has someone else (a volunteer dad or mother) do that kind of stuff during a game, not the assistant coach. It is very obvious that the head coach has no faith in your abilities to coach the players and has you doing the "clerical" tasks. What else do you do, wash all the lax balls after practice,
Go watch other teams and see what the assistant coach(s) do during a game. It is not what you are doing. They still get all the stats they need but someone else on the team is doing that task.
What next, a power point presentation for the head coach.
Wonders never end.

All got to start some where

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's my job .Im the assistant coach dip [lacrosse] ... all teams keep stats

Well dipsh*t, seems like you are not much of an assistant coach. A good, effective and focused assistant coach is coaching the players during a game, not doing clerical duties like you are doing. A good team has someone else (a volunteer dad or mother) do that kind of stuff during a game, not the assistant coach. It is very obvious that the head coach has no faith in your abilities to coach the players and has you doing the "clerical" tasks. What else do you do, wash all the lax balls after practice,
Go watch other teams and see what the assistant coach(s) do during a game. It is not what you are doing. They still get all the stats they need but someone else on the team is doing that task.
What next, a power point presentation for the head coach.
Wonders never end.

OUCH!!!

Pretty easy to keep stats. All teams should track them. You learn alot about team from them.

If you've never coached a team, you should stay in your place. The stands.

You are the [lacrosse].

Every coach has a role. Too many voices on the sideline on game day is not a good thing.

Stay in you lane parent.

Some great games today.

Zone Defense gave up 18 and 13 goals is it really working????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are the [lacrosse].

Every coach has a role. Too many voices on the sideline on game day is not a good thing.

Stay in you lane parent.

Sorry pecker breath, I have coached lacrosse for over 10 years and very successfully I might add. True, too many voices on the sideline on game day can be distracting, but every team has an offensive and defensive coach and the respective players know that coaches voice. There is no way I would have an assistant coach taking stats on game day, I would and have others do it for our team. They are important but not as important as having the two top coaches coaching the game, not doing clerical tasks.

Seems like you are the parent that needs to stay in the stands and watch the game and just STFU, as you have clearly demonstrated you have no clue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are the [lacrosse].

Every coach has a role. Too many voices on the sideline on game day is not a good thing.

Stay in you lane parent.

Sorry pecker breath, I have coached lacrosse for over 10 years and very successfully I might add. True, too many voices on the sideline on game day can be distracting, but every team has an offensive and defensive coach and the respective players know that coaches voice. There is no way I would have an assistant coach taking stats on game day, I would and have others do it for our team. They are important but not as important as having the two top coaches coaching the game, not doing clerical tasks.

Seems like you are the parent that needs to stay in the stands and watch the game and just STFU, as you have clearly demonstrated you have no clue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty easy to keep stats. All teams should track them. You learn alot about team from them.

If you've never coached a team, you should stay in your place. The stands.

Same goes for you dipsh*t. I have coached lacrosse for over 10 years and very successfully I might add. True, too many voices on the sideline on game day can be distracting, but every team has an offensive and defensive coach and the respective players know that coaches voice. There is no way I would have an assistant coach taking stats on game day, I would and have others do it for our team. They are important but not as important as having the two top coaches coaching the game, not doing clerical tasks.

Seems like you are the parent that needs to stay in the stands and watch the game and just STFU, as you have clearly demonstrated you have no clue

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Zone Defense gave up 18 and 13 goals is it really working????

Are you referring to the vaunted API zone?

Why are you keeping stats? Some think that's dumb.

How many teams are making the playoffs this year?
Last year, 5 teams made it, but there were 11 teams in the league.
This year there are only 9 teams, so does that mean only 4 make the playoffs.
If only 4 make it, the teams that are in now are Hawks, Bethesda, Madlax and T9-1MD.
Crabs, Roughriders, Diamondbacks, FCA, and Next Level would be out.

Sure you have. Coaching from the bleachers doesn't make you a successful coach. [lacrosse].

So if you have a 4th coach on the sidelines then it's ok to keep live stats?

Bethesda API Score was 14-13. Both teams gave up plenty of goals. It was a good game

Any upsets today?

After week 3 how do things look at the Elite and AA level?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any upsets today?

After week 3 how do things look at the Elite and AA level?

Week 4

Week 4 Standings:
Hawks 4-0
Bethesda 3-1
Madlax 3-1
T9-1MD 3-1
Crabs 1-1
Rough Riders 2-3
Diamondbacks 1-3
FCA 0-3
Next Level 0-4

Beside the teams at the bottom all the other teams have been very competitive. BLC and API was great today. RR gave the Hawks all they could handle. I just wish all the teams could play each other twice. There needs to be a better league out there where you not only play teams in MD but also PA , NJ and NY. Our basketball teams travels all up and down the east coast and so does my buddies kids hockey team. Lacrosse needs more organization.

The games I have watched this year have been great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are making the playoffs this year?
Last year, 5 teams made it, but there were 11 teams in the league.
This year there are only 9 teams, so does that mean only 4 make the playoffs.
If only 4 make it, the teams that are in now are Hawks, Bethesda, Madlax and T9-1MD.
Crabs, Roughriders, Diamondbacks, FCA, and Next Level would be out.

For any division with odd # of teams the top five make playoffs and then other teams play 1 seeded game. 4 plays 5 on friday night and winner advances to semi final

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if you have a 4th coach on the sidelines then it's ok to keep live stats?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if you have a 4th coach on the sidelines then it's ok to keep live stats?

No good team at this level has four coaches, not really needed . Plus at this level stats are not all that important or needed. Good grief, this is 2022, not top level Div. one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure you have. Coaching from the bleachers doesn't make you a successful coach. [lacrosse].

Well [lacrosse] face, I never coached from the bleachers, always on the sidelines with my team. This is obviously something you have never done or know nothing about. Since you brought it up you are most like.y the loud mouth in the stands at every game, yelling and complaining about every Cana or not call. Plus I would bet you are a coaches worst nightmare, yelling to your kid from the stands telling him what to do. You are such a douch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beside the teams at the bottom all the other teams have been very competitive. BLC and API was great today. RR gave the Hawks all they could handle. I just wish all the teams could play each other twice. There needs to be a better league out there where you not only play teams in MD but also PA , NJ and NY. Our basketball teams travels all up and down the east coast and so does my buddies kids hockey team. Lacrosse needs more organization.

The games I have watched this year have been great.

Um, perhaps you have noticed the summer tournaments that teams from all these tournaments play in? You really want to be driving up and down the coast in the spring too?

Yes or maybe you stop doing all of these summer tournaments and we have real leagues with managed rosters and a real youth national tournament. Not worried about ages(birth year vs. Graduation year) but some real management/organization from US Lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure you have. Coaching from the bleachers doesn't make you a successful coach. [lacrosse].

Well [lacrosse] face, I never coached from the bleachers, always on the sidelines with my team. This is obviously something you have never done or know nothing about. Since you brought it up you are most like.y the loud mouth in the stands at every game, yelling and complaining about every Cana or not call. Plus I would bet you are a coaches worst nightmare, yelling to your kid from the stands telling him what to do. You are such a douch.

If you are truly a coach talking like this in an anonymous forum, you are your team's worst nightmare.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes or maybe you stop doing all of these summer tournaments and we have real leagues with managed rosters and a real youth national tournament. Not worried about ages(birth year vs. Graduation year) but some real management/organization from US Lacrosse.

When are all you people going to realize that US Lacrosse has no real power to do anything? Local leagues are going to do what they're going to do. And until the recruiting scene actually changes, HoCo is likely to stay grade-based.

Maybe the new "recruiting rule" will help with some of this stuff, but unlikely. College coaches will still look at 7th and 8th graders, but only if they're real studs. And they probably won't go out looking for them, it will be that they happen to be there for something else and notice or someone will say "you need to go check out this kid."

Since 7th and 8th graders can play high school in NY (and perhaps PA as well), I'll bet they'll get more looks than MD kids. In my mind, no college coach should be offering anything to any kid until he's played at least a year of varsity level lacrosse.

Is it better to play with a elite AA team and get 2 or 3mins play time in a game or play for A program and play most of the time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to play with a elite AA team and get 2 or 3mins play time in a game or play for A program and play most of the time

Playing time trumps everything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to play with a elite AA team and get 2 or 3mins play time in a game or play for A program and play most of the time

For 7th grader, what matters is best competition and best coaching at practice. Games are just a reflection of what you are learning in practice, although most parents think games are the most important, because it is the funnest part for the spectator. You get better in practice, so you want to be playing against the best, as long as there is good coaching. A few extra hours of game experience against lesser talent is not going to inherently improve your players game, but countless hours of practice at the higher level will. Then, of course, his/her chances of increased game time at AA will increase with improvement and development.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to play with a elite AA team and get 2 or 3mins play time in a game or play for A program and play most of the time

Playing time trumps everything.

Completely agree; on the filed play is the only way your son and daughter will learn and develop the skills needed to play at an elite level. I would much rather have my son playing A or B ball then standing on the sidelines watching AA competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes or maybe you stop doing all of these summer tournaments and we have real leagues with managed rosters and a real youth national tournament. Not worried about ages(birth year vs. Graduation year) but some real management/organization from US Lacrosse.

When are all you people going to realize that US Lacrosse has no real power to do anything? Local leagues are going to do what they're going to do. And until the recruiting scene actually changes, HoCo is likely to stay grade-based.

Maybe the new "recruiting rule" will help with some of this stuff, but unlikely. College coaches will still look at 7th and 8th graders, but only if they're real studs. And they probably won't go out looking for them, it will be that they happen to be there for something else and notice or someone will say "you need to go check out this kid."

Since 7th and 8th graders can play high school in NY (and perhaps PA as well), I'll bet they'll get more looks than MD kids. In my mind, no college coach should be offering anything to any kid until he's played at least a year of varsity level lacrosse.

At some privates around DC, 7/8th grade can play on JV.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to play with a elite AA team and get 2 or 3mins play time in a game or play for A program and play most of the time

Playing time trumps everything.

I would argue with this statement 85% of the time. If you are the best player on a low A or B team you will be asked to just run around double teams and take bad shots. The practice time with a AA team is worth as much as the game time on a A team. My son is in high school now and he was on the lower end of a top AA team for years he also played on the A team the other years. Yes he did not play as much on the AA team but the practice time with D1 talent forced him to improve his weaknesses. Being really good or great on a lower team gives the kid a false sense of how good he is. This playing time trumps everything is the problem with sports today. Sports will become hard for your son one day and he will have to work for or earn playing time. Playing down to insure this playing time will only make him weaker for when he is forced to earn his spot in High School.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to play with a elite AA team and get 2 or 3mins play time in a game or play for A program and play most of the time

Playing time trumps everything.

Coaching trumps everything. If you can be coached and PRACTICE with better players the likelihood of improving will be greatly enhanced and accelerated. The goal is to make the roster of the best team possible, work your butt off to playing time, become a starter, and then the best player on your unit. Teams that play in higher rated divisons simply have better resources -- coaches, players, facilities, and growth curves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to play with a elite AA team and get 2 or 3mins play time in a game or play for A program and play most of the time

Depends on how happy your kid is. If he likes his teammates and learning the game from supportive coaches, he may be ok with sitting on the bench - especially if the team is winning.

If the kid is unhappy never playing, move him to a new team.

Amen...but a lot of parents would have to put their egos aside and let their sons be happy. It's a much better payoff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to play with a elite AA team and get 2 or 3mins play time in a game or play for A program and play most of the time

Playing time trumps everything.

Coaching trumps everything. If you can be coached and PRACTICE with better players the likelihood of improving will be greatly enhanced and accelerated. The goal is to make the roster of the best team possible, work your butt off to playing time, become a starter, and then the best player on your unit. Teams that play in higher rated divisons simply have better resources -- coaches, players, facilities, and growth curves.

Daddy ball and club politics very prevalent at this age. It is always a wise move to your kid if he is behind a coaches kid or a kid from a coach or admin from somewhere else in the club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to play with a elite AA team and get 2 or 3mins play time in a game or play for A program and play most of the time

Playing time trumps everything.

Practice and coaching. Games are not for learning. AA if you can for 7th grader. Games are for parents at this age.zt

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

The purpose is to have fun not save your parents $ on college tuition.

Playing time is more fun.

So how do you build the kids confidence if they have limited play time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

Real easy answer. It's a game. Kids should be having fun. If they are not having fun, move on. Their enjoyment of the game and passion to play will drive them to be better.

Is it to late to add players to the roster?? Some teams seem to add players no matter how late in the season it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it to late to add players to the roster?? Some teams seem to add players no matter how late in the season it is.

Hoco rules
"Any additions or deletions must be put in writing and submitted to the Conference Commissioner before the player is eligible to play. Additions must include all information and waiver forms required with the original roster submittal. No player may be added after the fourth game of the season"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Week 4 Standings:
Hawks 4-0
Bethesda 3-1
Madlax 3-1
T9-1MD 3-1
Crabs 1-1
Rough Riders 2-3
Diamondbacks 1-3
FCA 0-3
Next Level 0-4

Funny to see Annapolis and D.C. Clubs at the top and Balt clubs at the bottom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Week 4 Standings:
Hawks 4-0
Bethesda 3-1
Madlax 3-1
T9-1MD 3-1
Crabs 1-1
Rough Riders 2-3
Diamondbacks 1-3
FCA 0-3
Next Level 0-4

Funny to see Annapolis and D.C. Clubs at the top and Balt clubs at the bottom.

Hawks and Bethesda clearly has a number of holdbacks. Deny all you want but several sources know who the players are and should be playing 2021. Heard Madlax also but no verification.

Every one has hold backs it's a cheating game...it is what it is...hoco goes back to birthday everyone will have too. Then we can find something else to complain about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Week 4 Standings:
Hawks 4-0
Bethesda 3-1
Madlax 3-1
T9-1MD 3-1
Crabs 1-1
Rough Riders 2-3
Diamondbacks 1-3
FCA 0-3
Next Level 0-4

Funny to see Annapolis and D.C. Clubs at the top and Balt clubs at the bottom.

Hawks and Bethesda clearly has a number of holdbacks. Deny all you want but several sources know who the players are and should be playing 2021. Heard Madlax also but no verification.

Madlax has 3 wins versus teams that have a combined 1 win and a loss to Rough Riders. Some teams have easier schedules. Bethesda played one goal games with Hawks and API. There are no easy games in this division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Week 4 Standings:
Hawks 4-0
Bethesda 3-1
Madlax 3-1
T9-1MD 3-1
Crabs 1-1
Rough Riders 2-3
Diamondbacks 1-3
FCA 0-3
Next Level 0-4

Funny to see Annapolis and D.C. Clubs at the top and Balt clubs at the bottom.

I can't recall, where are Diamondbacks and Next Level from? So 2 of the bottom 3 are from Annapolis and DC areas also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Week 4 Standings:
Hawks 4-0
Bethesda 3-1
Madlax 3-1
T9-1MD 3-1
Crabs 1-1
Rough Riders 2-3
Diamondbacks 1-3
FCA 0-3
Next Level 0-4

Funny to see Annapolis and D.C. Clubs at the top and Balt clubs at the bottom.

This is our first year playing in this division -- it is good from top to bottom! By and large, all of these kids are very highly skilled, been playing for several years, received good coaching, and play on middle school teams in addition to their club team. Most games are 1, 2 or 3 goal differentials and very few are blowouts. These teams are even and any one of them can upset another on "any given Sunday". So it is not -- in my opinion -- a regional or geographic thing. Rather, it is the luck of the draw, and effort on gameday that results in wins/losses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every one has hold backs it's a cheating game...it is what it is...hoco goes back to birthday everyone will have too. Then we can find something else to complain about.

When the NPYLL had U15/U13/U11/U9 A&B brackets everyone would complain about "older" UXX teams playing in the B bracket

Complaining never stops, parents need an excuse for whey their team loses beyond it isn't as good as they thought

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So how do you build the kids confidence if they have limited play time

You tell them the truth. They are about a year from high school, so they either want to get better, or they don't, and getting better is hard hard work. If they love it, that will sound like a good plan.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

Real easy answer. It's a game. Kids should be having fun. If they are not having fun, move on. Their enjoyment of the game and passion to play will drive them to be better.

Life isn't fun sometimes, so the earlier you are honest, the better off they will be. If they love the game, they will understand they have about a year until high school, so they better play against the hardest, and seemingly not fun, competition as much as possible. You know what is not fun, not making the team in high school, then all those lower bracket games you played in MS don't seem so fun anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The purpose is to have fun not save your parents $ on college tuition.

Playing time is more fun.

Not a money issue. There's little money to spread around, most just want to make it. Fun is making it to the highest level if you love the sport. Fun is not saying you were the best 7th grade player ever in the B bracket, but never made it past JV.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Amen...but a lot of parents would have to put their egos aside and let their sons be happy. It's a much better payoff.

Happy until they don't make it past JV.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

Teach him to stick his lip out and pound his fists to the ground. Seriously? You keep fighting and doing what you can to get him off season training and playing with best coach/team he can get onto right now. He'll either achieve what he wants one day, or he won't. Either way, valuable lessons learned. There are kids from Lightning C playing AA club ball and varsity HS ball right now, just stay with it. Politics magically go away when the balls start hitting the nets, or not hitting the nets if he plays defense!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

Real easy answer. It's a game. Kids should be having fun. If they are not having fun, move on. Their enjoyment of the game and passion to play will drive them to be better.

Life isn't fun sometimes, so the earlier you are honest, the better off they will be. If they love the game, they will understand they have about a year until high school, so they better play against the hardest, and seemingly not fun, competition as much as possible. You know what is not fun, not making the team in high school, then all those lower bracket games you played in MS don't seem so fun anymore.

There is no real future in lacrosse, so having fun at playing games should be the most important. Being miserable the whole time you are in middle school, high school, or college and working at something that will not improve you as an employable person is not really worth it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

Teach him to stick his lip out and pound his fists to the ground. Seriously? You keep fighting and doing what you can to get him off season training and playing with best coach/team he can get onto right now. He'll either achieve what he wants one day, or he won't. Either way, valuable lessons learned. There are kids from Lightning C playing AA club ball and varsity HS ball right now, just stay with it. Politics magically go away when the balls start hitting the nets, or not hitting the nets if he plays defense!

Not if you are going up against the coach's son or the club owner's kid. It's amazing how bad some of these kids are that never come out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

Real easy answer. It's a game. Kids should be having fun. If they are not having fun, move on. Their enjoyment of the game and passion to play will drive them to be better.

Life isn't fun sometimes, so the earlier you are honest, the better off they will be. If they love the game, they will understand they have about a year until high school, so they better play against the hardest, and seemingly not fun, competition as much as possible. You know what is not fun, not making the team in high school, then all those lower bracket games you played in MS don't seem so fun anymore.

Work isn't fun, homework isn't fun, but you have to do it to get by in life. If playing games isn't fun, you aren't really "playing" and it is pointless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

Real easy answer. It's a game. Kids should be having fun. If they are not having fun, move on. Their enjoyment of the game and passion to play will drive them to be better.

Life isn't fun sometimes, so the earlier you are honest, the better off they will be. If they love the game, they will understand they have about a year until high school, so they better play against the hardest, and seemingly not fun, competition as much as possible. You know what is not fun, not making the team in high school, then all those lower bracket games you played in MS don't seem so fun anymore.

There is no real future in lacrosse, so having fun at playing games should be the most important. Being miserable the whole time you are in middle school, high school, or college and working at something that will not improve you as an employable person is not really worth it.

You are far removed from this sport. Move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

Teach him to stick his lip out and pound his fists to the ground. Seriously? You keep fighting and doing what you can to get him off season training and playing with best coach/team he can get onto right now. He'll either achieve what he wants one day, or he won't. Either way, valuable lessons learned. There are kids from Lightning C playing AA club ball and varsity HS ball right now, just stay with it. Politics magically go away when the balls start hitting the nets, or not hitting the nets if he plays defense!

Not if you are going up against the coach's son or the club owner's kid. It's amazing how bad some of these kids are that never come out.

Ok, you are right, give up.

Play for a coach that can help develop players to get ready for highschool. Not a coach that just wants to win so he can stroke his ego.

Most head coaches at the elite level have played and coached at a higher level. A few have not. Do your research and find what is the best fit for your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

Real easy answer. It's a game. Kids should be having fun. If they are not having fun, move on. Their enjoyment of the game and passion to play will drive them to be better.

Life isn't fun sometimes, so the earlier you are honest, the better off they will be. If they love the game, they will understand they have about a year until high school, so they better play against the hardest, and seemingly not fun, competition as much as possible. You know what is not fun, not making the team in high school, then all those lower bracket games you played in MS don't seem so fun anymore.

Work isn't fun, homework isn't fun, but you have to do it to get by in life. If playing games isn't fun, you aren't really "playing" and it is pointless.

But getting a promotion is fun, getting an A at the end of the quarter is fun, and eventually earning more playing time on a top team is fun. What is wrong with you people?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

Teach him to stick his lip out and pound his fists to the ground. Seriously? You keep fighting and doing what you can to get him off season training and playing with best coach/team he can get onto right now. He'll either achieve what he wants one day, or he won't. Either way, valuable lessons learned. There are kids from Lightning C playing AA club ball and varsity HS ball right now, just stay with it. Politics magically go away when the balls start hitting the nets, or not hitting the nets if he plays defense!

Not if you are going up against the coach's son or the club owner's kid. It's amazing how bad some of these kids are that never come out.

Ok, you are right, give up.

Going to a different team isn't giving up - you are just putting yourself in a better situation. I'm not saying quit in the middle of the season, but just like pro athletes, move on after the contract is up or ask for a trade.

How is it that the Crabs only play 5 games in HoCo and all others play 6?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is it that the Crabs only play 5 games in HoCo and all others play 6?

FCA only had 5 as well because they couldn't work out a time to play each other when the schedule came out. The Crabs/FCA game is scheduled now, it just hasn't been added to the schedule.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

Teach him to stick his lip out and pound his fists to the ground. Seriously? You keep fighting and doing what you can to get him off season training and playing with best coach/team he can get onto right now. He'll either achieve what he wants one day, or he won't. Either way, valuable lessons learned. There are kids from Lightning C playing AA club ball and varsity HS ball right now, just stay with it. Politics magically go away when the balls start hitting the nets, or not hitting the nets if he plays defense!

Not if you are going up against the coach's son or the club owner's kid. It's amazing how bad some of these kids are that never come out.

Ok, you are right, give up.

Going to a different team isn't giving up - you are just putting yourself in a better situation. I'm not saying quit in the middle of the season, but just like pro athletes, move on after the contract is up or ask for a trade.

Do you honestly think the same issues don't exist on every club? If your son is good enough he will play. It's 7th grade. Kids are growing at different rates and skill levels change quickly. If your son isn't playing it may make sense to move to a lower level club for now to play, but it depends on what your end goal is. If you just want your son to have fun, they playing time should be a high priority. If you think your son can play at a higher level, try to play for the best club he can make. Get private lessons, get a trainer, hit the wall, etc...Sure there are politics, but at the end of the day the clubs want to win. If your kid is one of the better players on the team he will play.

Not if you are going up against the coach's son or the club owner's kid. It's amazing how bad some of these kids are that never come out.

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Ok, you are right, give up.
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Going to a different team isn't giving up - you are just putting yourself in a better situation. I'm not saying quit in the middle of the season, but just like pro athletes, move on after the contract is up or ask for a trade.[/quote]

Do you honestly think the same issues don't exist on every club? If your son is good enough he will play. It's 7th grade. Kids are growing at different rates and skill levels change quickly. If your son isn't playing it may make sense to move to a lower level club for now to play, but it depends on what your end goal is. If you just want your son to have fun, they playing time should be a high priority. If you think your son can play at a higher level, try to play for the best club he can make. Get private lessons, get a trainer, hit the wall, etc...Sure there are politics, but at the end of the day the clubs want to win. If your kid is one of the better players on the team he will play.[/quote]

Or just be an adult and figure it out by yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not if you are going up against the coach's son or the club owner's kid. It's amazing how bad some of these kids are that never come out.

Ok, you are right, give up.
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Going to a different team isn't giving up - you are just putting yourself in a better situation. I'm not saying quit in the middle of the season, but just like pro athletes, move on after the contract is up or ask for a trade.[/quote]

Do you honestly think the same issues don't exist on every club? If your son is good enough he will play. It's 7th grade. Kids are growing at different rates and skill levels change quickly. If your son isn't playing it may make sense to move to a lower level club for now to play, but it depends on what your end goal is. If you just want your son to have fun, they playing time should be a high priority. If you think your son can play at a higher level, try to play for the best club he can make. Get private lessons, get a trainer, hit the wall, etc...Sure there are politics, but at the end of the day the clubs want to win. If your kid is one of the better players on the team he will play.[/quote]

Or just be an adult and figure it out by yourself.
[/quote]

Daddy ball is a huge problem Just look at the state of the top teams from two years ago. Ever wonder why the talent left?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's if you just can't get by the politics and the kid is not given a chance ..

Real easy answer. It's a game. Kids should be having fun. If they are not having fun, move on. Their enjoyment of the game and passion to play will drive them to be better.

Life isn't fun sometimes, so the earlier you are honest, the better off they will be. If they love the game, they will understand they have about a year until high school, so they better play against the hardest, and seemingly not fun, competition as much as possible. You know what is not fun, not making the team in high school, then all those lower bracket games you played in MS don't seem so fun anymore.

There is no real future in lacrosse, so having fun at playing games should be the most important. Being miserable the whole time you are in middle school, high school, or college and working at something that will not improve you as an employable person is not really worth it.

You are far removed from this sport. Move on.

And you must be one of the 5 people in the US making a comfortable living playing lacrosse.

RR,API,Hawks,89+1 just to start with have Dads coaching. I would let my son play for anyone of those coaches. Highly qualified coaches and successful too. Pretty sure that most of the talent doesn't go running off these teams either. Maybe a kidder or a kid there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not if you are going up against the coach's son or the club owner's kid. It's amazing how bad some of these kids are that never come out.

Ok, you are right, give up.

Going to a different team isn't giving up - you are just putting yourself in a better situation. I'm not saying quit in the middle of the season, but just like pro athletes, move on after the contract is up or ask for a trade.[/quote]

Do you honestly think the same issues don't exist on every club? If your son is good enough he will play. It's 7th grade. Kids are growing at different rates and skill levels change quickly. If your son isn't playing it may make sense to move to a lower level club for now to play, but it depends on what your end goal is. If you just want your son to have fun, they playing time should be a high priority. If you think your son can play at a higher level, try to play for the best club he can make. Get private lessons, get a trainer, hit the wall, etc...Sure there are politics, but at the end of the day the clubs want to win. If your kid is one of the better players on the team he will play.[/quote]

Or just be an adult and figure it out by yourself.
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Daddy ball is a huge problem Just look at the state of the top teams from two years ago. Ever wonder why the talent left?

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Spring season is more than half way over . Who would be the top players in the Hoco league ? Just put players # and team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Spring season is more than half way over . Who would be the top players in the Hoco league ? Just put players # and team

Commenting on the ability of players in any youth sport prior to HS is just plain stupid.... grow up bud

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Spring season is more than half way over . Who would be the top players in the Hoco league ? Just put players # and team

Commenting on the ability of players in any youth sport prior to HS is just plain stupid.... grow up bud

Dude only posted this so he can put his own kid on this site....

So, silly, Im sure one of the color commentators(Dads) that travel to each and every game on here can inform you on the Top Players from every team. They may even be able to give you stats as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, silly, Im sure one of the color commentators(Dads) that travel to each and every game on here can inform you on the Top Players from every team. They may even be able to give you stats as well.

We'll need API's 4th assistant for stats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RR,API,Hawks,89+1 just to start with have Dads coaching. I would let my son play for anyone of those coaches. Highly qualified coaches and successful too. Pretty sure that most of the talent doesn't go running off these teams either. Maybe a kidder or a kid there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not if you are going up against the coach's son or the club owner's kid. It's amazing how bad some of these kids are that never come out.

Ok, you are right, give up.

Going to a different team isn't giving up - you are just putting yourself in a better situation. I'm not saying quit in the middle of the season, but just like pro athletes, move on after the contract is up or ask for a trade.[/quote]

Do you honestly think the same issues don't exist on every club? If your son is good enough he will play. It's 7th grade. Kids are growing at different rates and skill levels change quickly. If your son isn't playing it may make sense to move to a lower level club for now to play, but it depends on what your end goal is. If you just want your son to have fun, they playing time should be a high priority. If you think your son can play at a higher level, try to play for the best club he can make. Get private lessons, get a trainer, hit the wall, etc...Sure there are politics, but at the end of the day the clubs want to win. If your kid is one of the better players on the team he will play.[/quote]

Or just be an adult and figure it out by yourself.
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Daddy ball is a huge problem Just look at the state of the top teams from two years ago. Ever wonder why the talent left?

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Cannons won NPYLL two years ago and now are a B team. Diamondbacks won Hoco two years ago and now only have 1 win.

Are you saying daddy ball wrecked these teams?

Cannons Head coach is not a Dad. API has a very good team that has lost 2 tight 1 goal games in the Elite division. Agree with this post from earlier:
RR,API,Hawks,89+1 just to start with have Dads coaching. I would let my son play for anyone of those coaches. Highly qualified coaches and successful too. Pretty sure that most of the talent doesn't go running off these teams either. Maybe a kid here or there.

None of the coaches on the Cannons staff are dads. Stupid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of the coaches on the Cannons staff are dads. Stupid

What teams do the owners kids play on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of the coaches on the Cannons staff are dads. Stupid

What teams do the owners kids play on?

That team but his dad coaches another team.

The old cannons coach plays for the Hawks now.

Madlax vs. 9D1
Hawks vs. Next Level
Crabs vs. Bethesda
API vs. FCA

Is it 4 or 5 teams making the playoffs? Seedings games for some of these teams. Good luck to all.

Scores??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores??

You know you can go on the attached website and look them up yourself. Easier than waiting for someone else to provide.

http://www.eteamz.com/hcrpsports/schedules/index.cfm?subsite=6171250

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores??

Hawks 13, Next Level 3
T9-1MD 7, Madlax 6

Bethesda over Crabs
API over FCA
Both 1 goal games decided in final seconds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bethesda over Crabs
API over FCA
Both 1 goal games decided in final seconds.

Looks like Hawks, Bethesda, and T9-1MD have clinched a playoff spot.

Madlax is in with a win, but needs to beat Hawks.

RoughRiders need help, but have the tie breaker over Madlax.

Next Level is done for the season unless they are making up that Crabs game.

The Crabs need to make up the Next Level and win as well as win against T91 for a shot at playoffs.

API needs help, and will have tie breaker over RoughRiders with win, but I don't know if they would have it over Madlax.

Crabs is making up Next Level game on Saturday and playing FCA on Wednesday.

Doesn't crabs need to schedule game came fca too? Otherwise not fair to other bubble teams.

Zone defense has given up the most goals. A total of 55

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't crabs need to schedule game came fca too? Otherwise not fair to other bubble teams.

Why is everyone obsessed with the Crabs? They have never been contenders at this age group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Zone defense has given up the most goals. A total of 55

Here we go with the stats. Someone gets annoyed by keeping stats.

It is 2 bad they cannot take the top 8 teams. I know that FCA does not have a win yet but they have been competitive in their games. Next Level is the only team that does not fit in this group. If you look at the goals for vs against 91 , Mad , RR, API and all very equal. It is to bad that the teams do not get a chance to play each other twice. It would be a huge benefit to all of the teams. Most of the games all season have been great to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't crabs need to schedule game came fca too? Otherwise not fair to other bubble teams.

Why is everyone obsessed with the Crabs? They have never been contenders at this age group.

Very strange that they have 2 fewer games than everyone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't crabs need to schedule game came fca too? Otherwise not fair to other bubble teams.

Why is everyone obsessed with the Crabs? They have never been contenders at this age group.

Very strange that they have 2 fewer games than everyone else.

Crabs will play FCA, Next Level and 91 in the next 7 days.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't crabs need to schedule game came fca too? Otherwise not fair to other bubble teams.

Why is everyone obsessed with the Crabs? They have never been contenders at this age group.

Very strange that they have 2 fewer games than everyone else.

Crabs will play FCA, Next Level and 91 in the next 7 days.

They will probably go 2-1. Will that get them in?

FCA 14 Crabs 3 tonight

few key games this week will shape the playoff race

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 14 Crabs 3 tonight

It looks like crabs are out of playoffs

Have any of your coaches said anything about the Warrior All-American Games tryouts this coming Sunday?

It's a Millon money grab unless you're a 91 player. Or is this MM promoting himself again...not enough kids signed up?

Does anyone have any idea how many teams are getting in the playoffs this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have any of your coaches said anything about the Warrior All-American Games tryouts this coming Sunday?

No Mark. They don't waste their breath trying to make you money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have any of your coaches said anything about the Warrior All-American Games tryouts this coming Sunday?

No Mark. They don't waste their breath trying to make you money.

You could always just do the Rock's MALA showcase, or Crab's Top Propect, or Brine's all American, or Mavericks Showtime, or Nike Blue chip, or ........

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a Millon money grab unless you're a 91 player. Or is this MM promoting himself again...not enough kids signed up?

Exactly...run by Team 91 and is totally to line their pockets with more money. Their numbers must be very low, because 91 parents/players received a special invite and at least 2 more follow-up emails to register. Do not waste your money!

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have any of your coaches said anything about the Warrior All-American Games tryouts this coming Sunday?

No Mark. They don't waste their breath trying to make you money.

100% accurate! Do not waste your money supporting Millon

What the heck happened that FCA beat Crabs by 11 goals?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have any of your coaches said anything about the Warrior All-American Games tryouts this coming Sunday?

No Mark. They don't waste their breath trying to make you money.

100% accurate! Do not waste your money supporting Millon

This will end up like Brine Nationals, where they take anyone who shows up and supplement the Maryland teams with kids from Texas or Ohio. Take a couple weeks off before tryouts and relax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have any of your coaches said anything about the Warrior All-American Games tryouts this coming Sunday?

No Mark. They don't waste their breath trying to make you money.

100% accurate! Do not waste your money supporting Millon

This will end up like Brine Nationals, where they take anyone who shows up and supplement the Maryland teams with kids from Texas or Ohio. Take a couple weeks off before tryouts and relax.

It will be Texas kids, since Millon has kids come up from Texas now and play for his 2022 team in the HOCO league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have any of your coaches said anything about the Warrior All-American Games tryouts this coming Sunday?

No Mark. They don't waste their breath trying to make you money.

100% accurate! Do not waste your money supporting Millon

This will end up like Brine Nationals, where they take anyone who shows up and supplement the Maryland teams with kids from Texas or Ohio. Take a couple weeks off before tryouts and relax.

It will be Texas kids, since Millon has kids come up from Texas now and play for his 2022 team in the HOCO league.

He did the same thing last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 14 Crabs 3 tonight

It looks like crabs are out of playoffs

They could move to 3-3 with wins over 91 and Next Level. That would put them in a tie for 4th or 5th place. The only teams out of it are FCA and Next Level.

Does anyone have any insight into the Casey Powell tryouts this week for a U13 Long Island team for the WSL n Denver ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 14 Crabs 3 tonight

It looks like crabs are out of playoffs

They could move to 3-3 with wins over 91 and Next Level. That would put them in a tie for 4th or 5th place. The only teams out of it are FCA and Next Level.

Sorry. Only 4 teams get in. And after giving up 14 goals to FCA, Crabs has given up more goals in 4 games then Madlax and Roughriders have in 5 games. Plus they lost to Madlax. Only one of those teams is getting it and it won't be Crabs.

Hawks, Bethesda, and 9D1 are in plus either Madlax or Roughriders

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 14 Crabs 3 tonight

It looks like crabs are out of playoffs

They could move to 3-3 with wins over 91 and Next Level. That would put them in a tie for 4th or 5th place. The only teams out of it are FCA and Next Level.

Sorry. Only 4 teams get in. And after giving up 14 goals to FCA, Crabs has given up more goals in 4 games then Madlax and Roughriders have in 5 games. Plus they lost to Madlax. Only one of those teams is getting it and it won't be Crabs.

Hawks, Bethesda, and 9D1 are in plus either Madlax or Roughriders

Where does it say 4 get in? Last year it was top 5.

What happened to our color commentators and play by play guys. What is the playoff structure this year for this division ?

Top 4 get in. Only 5 teams if tie breaker needed. Then it is a play in game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 get in. Only 5 teams if tie breaker needed. Then it is a play in game

The tie breakers are published on the site. I heard 5 teams in a league with an odd number of teams.

Tie Breaking End of season tie breaker procedures:
1. Record/Winning percentage
2. Head to Head
3. Total winning percentage of teams you have beaten
4. Total winning percentage of all your opponents
5. Total goals scored against
6. Coin Toss/Card Draw

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 get in. Only 5 teams if tie breaker needed. Then it is a play in game

The tie breakers are published on the site. I heard 5 teams in a league with an odd number of teams.

Tie Breaking End of season tie breaker procedures:
1. Record/Winning percentage
2. Head to Head
3. Total winning percentage of teams you have beaten
4. Total winning percentage of all your opponents
5. Total goals scored against
6. Coin Toss/Card Draw

correct if there is odd # teams then 4 and 5 play to get in semi final

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 14 Crabs 3 tonight

It looks like crabs are out of playoffs

They could move to 3-3 with wins over 91 and Next Level. That would put them in a tie for 4th or 5th place. The only teams out of it are FCA and Next Level.

Sorry. Only 4 teams get in. And after giving up 14 goals to FCA, Crabs has given up more goals in 4 games then Madlax and Roughriders have in 5 games. Plus they lost to Madlax. Only one of those teams is getting it and it won't be Crabs.

Hawks, Bethesda, and 9D1 are in plus either Madlax or Roughriders

Where does it say 4 get in? Last year it was top 5.

Last year 2022 had 11 teams and 5 got in. Last year 2021 had 9 teams and only 4 got in. This year 2022 has 9 teams just as 2021 did last year so I assume 4 will get in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 get in. Only 5 teams if tie breaker needed. Then it is a play in game

The tie breakers are published on the site. I heard 5 teams in a league with an odd number of teams.

Tie Breaking End of season tie breaker procedures:
1. Record/Winning percentage
2. Head to Head
3. Total winning percentage of teams you have beaten
4. Total winning percentage of all your opponents
5. Total goals scored against
6. Coin Toss/Card Draw

correct if there is odd # teams then 4 and 5 play to get in semi final

For 11 team leagues. Not 9.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 14 Crabs 3 tonight

It looks like crabs are out of playoffs

What was today's Crabs score against next Level?

11-5 RR over API

FCA 9 - Bethesda 7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 get in. Only 5 teams if tie breaker needed. Then it is a play in game

The tie breakers are published on the site. I heard 5 teams in a league with an odd number of teams.

Tie Breaking End of season tie breaker procedures:
1. Record/Winning percentage
2. Head to Head
3. Total winning percentage of teams you have beaten
4. Total winning percentage of all your opponents
5. Total goals scored against
6. Coin Toss/Card Draw

correct if there is odd # teams then 4 and 5 play to get in semi final

For 11 team leagues. Not 9.

If you'd at so but there was an email from league at the start of yr saying any division w odd # of team would have 4v5 play in game on fri night. Divisions w even teams just have semi final and champ. In both scenarios all other team get a seeded game to end the season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-5 RR over API

Wow...where are all the dback (bag) parents now? They did a lot of talking before the season about how good they were gonna be.

FCA with a few big wins late..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA with a few big wins late..

Is Crabs a big win?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-5 RR over API

Wow...where are all the dback (bag) parents now? They did a lot of talking before the season about how good they were gonna be.

Heard ex-Hawks goalie's crazy dad is losing his mind again on players and parents. Knowing him, I believe it...just look at the GA. He is a (bag) no question

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA with a few big wins late..

Is Crabs a big win?

Maybe not but beating Bethesda is? How about RR taking to API in a do or die game. Hawks take care of MadLax easily . 89+2 finally woke up with some offense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA with a few big wins late..

Is Crabs a big win?

Anytime a Baltimore club beats Crabs it is huge!

FCA and T-91MD have recruiting clout now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-5 RR over API

Wow...where are all the dback (bag) parents now? They did a lot of talking before the season about how good they were gonna be.

They are saving it for wsyl.

Crabs blow. More of a hype club than a lacrosse club.
FCA great showing today. BLC was missing a FOG guy but no matter FCA beat them.

RR game vs API started as a good game but RR blew the wheels off of them.

Looking forward to see some great games.

I think alot of these coaches over coach the game. You hear constant offenses being called or defensive sets. I played pretty high level lacrosse and my high school coach did that and we were always trying to do this or do that but alot of the times unsuccessfully. My college coach keep it real simple and we played in some very important games at the end of the year by just keeping it simple.

Zone defense gave up 66 goals. Wow! Wins in third grade matter. Middle school not so much. Coach can't develop players. It's all about winning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs blow. More of a hype club than a lacrosse club.
FCA great showing today. BLC was missing a FOG guy but no matter FCA beat them.

RR game vs API started as a good game but RR blew the wheels off of them.

Looking forward to see some great games.

I think alot of these coaches over coach the game. You hear constant offenses being called or defensive sets. I played pretty high level lacrosse and my high school coach did that and we were always trying to do this or do that but alot of the times unsuccessfully. My college coach keep it real simple and we played in some very important games at the end of the year by just keeping it simple.

You do know the hype club(Crabs) has been winning at club lacrosse for a very long time. Maybe not 2022 but they dominate in almost every other level year after year and have a ton of kids who go on to the next level.

BLC missing fogo is a big loss and could of been game changer.

Rough Riders are tough and will face a tough Hawks team

I'm sure you and the other dads that think this league is about them and no more than the coaches and clubs can start a Forum of your own and discuss your play by play commentary and even better yet your old playing days. Do you think you are the only dad that has played in college or even pro --

Sad ..

Hey bud you seem a little defensive for the scabs.

There are lot of parents both dad's and mom's that have played at very high levels that kids play in this league. That was not the point.
What they are saying is let's the kids play and not always but them.in sets. If the MD game allowed more creativity(NY lax) the games would be played with more skill than just playes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA with a few big wins late..

Is Crabs a big win?

Anytime a Baltimore club beats Crabs it is huge!

FCA and T-91MD have recruiting clout now.

Crabs beat Next Level 8-7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey bud you seem a little defensive for the scabs.

There are lot of parents both dad's and mom's that have played at very high levels that kids play in this league. That was not the point.
What they are saying is let's the kids play and not always but them.in sets. If the MD game allowed more creativity(NY lax) the games would be played with more skill than just playes.

Some of these underperforming teams should listen to this guy. They are being outcoached because they are over-coaching.

Where can I find the playoff schedule?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey bud you seem a little defensive for the scabs.

There are lot of parents both dad's and mom's that have played at very high levels that kids play in this league. That was not the point.
What they are saying is let's the kids play and not always but them.in sets. If the MD game allowed more creativity(NY lax) the games would be played with more skill than just playes.

Some of these underperforming teams should listen to this guy. They are being outcoached because they are over-coaching.

Amen to that. Those coaches need to stop hovering over these kids. Let them off their leash so their lax iq develops along with other skills.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey bud you seem a little defensive for the scabs.

There are lot of parents both dad's and mom's that have played at very high levels that kids play in this league. That was not the point.
What they are saying is let's the kids play and not always but them.in sets. If the MD game allowed more creativity(NY lax) the games would be played with more skill than just playes.

Totally got the underlined point! Agree totally with let the kids just play. But that was just what it was , a underline point after bashing a club and talking about himself. The commentary about every game of the day is a bit disturbing and on Mothers day too. I happen to find it a bit disturbing. But hey, looking forward to some great games!

ps
MD lax is much more fun to watch than NY lax. (go watch a Express or 91 team play and every movement is coached from sideline.

Playoffs are posted
5 get in

Madlax and Roughriders in play in to play Hawks
9d1 vs Bethesda

Will the 9uno kids be introducing themselves to each other this weekend? I'm sure Milllon will have the country's best ready for this weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the 9uno kids be introducing themselves to each other this weekend? I'm sure Milllon will have the country's best ready for this weekend

Will Millon be on the sidelines? Rumor has it he was ejected from 2024 game which means he would miss the next game. Does HoCo have the balls to keep him off the field Sunday?

API missed playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the 9uno kids be introducing themselves to each other this weekend? I'm sure Milllon will have the country's best ready for this weekend

They should have Hello My Name is _______ embroidered on their jerseys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the 9uno kids be introducing themselves to each other this weekend? I'm sure Milllon will have the country's best ready for this weekend

Will Millon be on the sidelines? Rumor has it he was ejected from 2024 game which means he would miss the next game. Does HoCo have the balls to keep him off the field Sunday?

He's not on the HoCo banned list on their website:

Following are suspended from ALL Department sports activities, not just from the league and sport in which the infraction occurred.
John Gray
David Jefferson
James Curtice

I wonder what these guys did to get banned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the 9uno kids be introducing themselves to each other this weekend? I'm sure Milllon will have the country's best ready for this weekend

They should have Hello My Name is _______ embroidered on their jerseys.

Both 91 and Bethesda are known for changing their line ups quite a bit. Perhaps a HoCo official should be at their games to enforce their rules:

Rosters are to be submitted on the official roster form by January 15th. This includes the Howard County Lacrosse Program who organizes select/travel teams and places these teams in the Conference.

Each player's full name, date of birth, school, grade, parent’s cell number and jersey number must appear on this form. Incomplete rosters will not be accepted. Rosters must be emailed to the Conference Commissioner at dethompson@howardcountymd.gov

Any additions or deletions must be put in writing and submitted to the Conference Commissioner before the player is eligible to play. Additions must include all information and waiver forms required with the original roster submittal. No player may be added after the fourth game of the season.

It would be a shame if any out of state or 2021 players were not allowed to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the 9uno kids be introducing themselves to each other this weekend? I'm sure Milllon will have the country's best ready for this weekend

They should have Hello My Name is _______ embroidered on their jerseys.

Both 91 and Bethesda are known for changing their line ups quite a bit. Perhaps a HoCo official should be at their games to enforce their rules:

Rosters are to be submitted on the official roster form by January 15th. This includes the Howard County Lacrosse Program who organizes select/travel teams and places these teams in the Conference.

Each player's full name, date of birth, school, grade, parent’s cell number and jersey number must appear on this form. Incomplete rosters will not be accepted. Rosters must be emailed to the Conference Commissioner at dethompson@howardcountymd.gov

Any additions or deletions must be put in writing and submitted to the Conference Commissioner before the player is eligible to play. Additions must include all information and waiver forms required with the original roster submittal. No player may be added after the fourth game of the season.

It would be a shame if any out of state or 2021 players were not allowed to play.

The Texas kids are on the roster. Check it.

rule. need to be a MARYLAND RESIDENT

Are you going to throw out Madlax and Cavs VA mostly and Zingos lots of DC kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

rule. need to be a MARYLAND RESIDENT

Don't be an idiot......So no DC or VA resident playing on VLC, Cavalier, BLC, Madlax, Next Level, Crabs etc will be able to to play. How good with this league be? Well maybe your team will win, so I take it back.....

Just try to think before you say or write something

Originally Posted by Anonymous

rule. need to be a MARYLAND RESIDENT

So stupid.

Someone is bitter that they didn't have the spring season that they hoped. Time to move on to your summer season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the 9uno kids be introducing themselves to each other this weekend? I'm sure Milllon will have the country's best ready for this weekend

They should have Hello My Name is _______ embroidered on their jerseys.

Both 91 and Bethesda are known for changing their line ups quite a bit. Perhaps a HoCo official should be at their games to enforce their rules:

Rosters are to be submitted on the official roster form by January 15th. This includes the Howard County Lacrosse Program who organizes select/travel teams and places these teams in the Conference.

Each player's full name, date of birth, school, grade, parent’s cell number and jersey number must appear on this form. Incomplete rosters will not be accepted. Rosters must be emailed to the Conference Commissioner at dethompson@howardcountymd.gov

Any additions or deletions must be put in writing and submitted to the Conference Commissioner before the player is eligible to play. Additions must include all information and waiver forms required with the original roster submittal. No player may be added after the fourth game of the season.

It would be a shame if any out of state or 2021 players were not allowed to play.

The Texas kids are on the roster. Check it.

Of course they are in the roster, MM is not stupid! I am sure the Texas players will play the whole game this weekend, while the players that deserve to be on the field will stand on the sideline.

When Mark Millon is suspended from all playoff games this weekend, he will have plenty of time to drive his players back and forth to the airport. Or maybe they can drive themselves. Mark Millon is a vulgar, lying, cheating, despicable hypocrite that is a true disgrace to the game. He certainly shouldn't be coaching youth lacrosse. And anybody that is subjecting their kid to that creep should definitely reassess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the 9uno kids be introducing themselves to each other this weekend? I'm sure Milllon will have the country's best ready for this weekend

They should have Hello My Name is _______ embroidered on their jerseys.

Both 91 and Bethesda are known for changing their line ups quite a bit. Perhaps a HoCo official should be at their games to enforce their rules:

Rosters are to be submitted on the official roster form by January 15th. This includes the Howard County Lacrosse Program who organizes select/travel teams and places these teams in the Conference.

Each player's full name, date of birth, school, grade, parent’s cell number and jersey number must appear on this form. Incomplete rosters will not be accepted. Rosters must be emailed to the Conference Commissioner at dethompson@howardcountymd.gov

Any additions or deletions must be put in writing and submitted to the Conference Commissioner before the player is eligible to play. Additions must include all information and waiver forms required with the original roster submittal. No player may be added after the fourth game of the season.

It would be a shame if any out of state or 2021 players were not allowed to play.

The Texas kids are on the roster. Check it.

Of course they are in the roster, MM is not stupid! I am sure the Texas players will play the whole game this weekend, while the players that deserve to be on the field will stand on the sideline.

Stupid enough to get ejected from a 5th grade game on Mother's Day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When Mark Millon is suspended from all playoff games this weekend, he will have plenty of time to drive his players back and forth to the airport. Or maybe they can drive themselves. Mark Millon is a vulgar, lying, cheating, despicable hypocrite that is a true disgrace to the game. He certainly shouldn't be coaching youth lacrosse. And anybody that is subjecting their kid to that creep should definitely reassess.

Amen to that. MM taunts 5th graders, then gets ejected from a 5th grade game on Mother's Day. He is a raving lunatic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When Mark Millon is suspended from all playoff games this weekend, he will have plenty of time to drive his players back and forth to the airport. Or maybe they can drive themselves. Mark Millon is a vulgar, lying, cheating, despicable hypocrite that is a true disgrace to the game. He certainly shouldn't be coaching youth lacrosse. And anybody that is subjecting their kid to that creep should definitely reassess.

bad guy, huh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When Mark Millon is suspended from all playoff games this weekend, he will have plenty of time to drive his players back and forth to the airport. Or maybe they can drive themselves. Mark Millon is a vulgar, lying, cheating, despicable hypocrite that is a true disgrace to the game. He certainly shouldn't be coaching youth lacrosse. And anybody that is subjecting their kid to that creep should definitely reassess.

I think someone is in love with Mark!!!

Season review
Hawks
91
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Madlax
API
FCA
Crabs
Next Level

That's how regular season ended. Fca had the biggest disappointment of the year. Api the downward spiral continues. Crabs continue to struggle at this grade. Hawks are who we thought they are. Rough riders continue to get better. 91 and Bethesda both solid teams. At the end of the day Hawks will continue to be the team to beat. Can anyone knock them off this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season review
Hawks
91
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Madlax
API
FCA
Crabs
Next Level

That's how regular season ended. Fca had the biggest disappointment of the year. Api the downward spiral continues. Crabs continue to struggle at this grade. Hawks are who we thought they are. Rough riders continue to get better. 91 and Bethesda both solid teams. At the end of the day Hawks will continue to be the team to beat. Can anyone knock them off this weekend?

Yes, Bethesda took them to overtime and RR lost by 2 and where in it the entire game. 91 I don't think can score enough to beat Hawks.

I heard crabs dropped out of final game VS API Diamondbacks.
Next level than followed. So Api plays FCA, I guess.
That's weak to drop out of games.
Should be penalties for clubs where teams don't play the schedule.
Smh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Season review
Hawks
91
Bethesda
Rough Riders
Madlax
API
FCA
Crabs
Next Level

That's how regular season ended. Fca had the biggest disappointment of the year. Api the downward spiral continues. Crabs continue to struggle at this grade. Hawks are who we thought they are. Rough riders continue to get better. 91 and Bethesda both solid teams. At the end of the day Hawks will continue to be the team to beat. Can anyone knock them off this weekend?

Yes, Bethesda took them to overtime and RR lost by 2 and where in it the entire game. 91 I don't think can score enough to beat Hawks.

Hawks practice year round so started season playing at a high level. Other teams not so much and improved more over the course of season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard crabs dropped out of final game VS API Diamondbacks.
Next level than followed. So Api plays FCA, I guess.
That's weak to drop out of games.
Should be penalties for clubs where teams don't play the schedule.
Smh.

What the heck are you talking about? API and FCA finished 6th and 7th so HOCO scheduled a consolation game. There was no other games scheduled.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard crabs dropped out of final game VS API Diamondbacks.
Next level than followed. So Api plays FCA, I guess.
That's weak to drop out of games.
Should be penalties for clubs where teams don't play the schedule.
Smh.

What the heck are you talking about? API and FCA finished 6th and 7th so HOCO scheduled a consolation game. There was no other games scheduled.

Look at 2022 AA. 11 teams. 5 made playoffs. Other 6 all play each other this weekend. They allow 5 into the playoffs in an odd numbered league to leave an even number of teams to play each other and get everyone one more game, unless teams back out.

They backed out. Stop acting like you have a clue. The backup camera is still on. Fines should be hefty. League intergrity takes a hit. I am a parent of a team that's in the playoffs. Good for API and FCA for adjusting and handling.

Crabs dropped out of the final game, leaving FCA to play API. Next Level did not drop out, just left with no team to schedule them against.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs dropped out of the final game, leaving FCA to play API. Next Level did not drop out, just left with no team to schedule them against.

I guess after getting outscored 31-14 in the last week Crabs decided they didn't need the game to work on anything. What a disaster that team is. They were't very good last year but all you folks saying they picked up a lot of talent probably spoke to soon. The team is lacking talent and poorly coached. The good news is that next year they get to play for the fat man. Surely that will get them straightened out. I'm guessing there will be a lot of turnover yet again next year as parents realize that this group just isn't going to jell.

MADLAX vs ROUGHRIDERS ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MADLAX vs ROUGHRIDERS ?

Roughriders by 7. No contest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MADLAX vs ROUGHRIDERS ?

Roughriders by 7. No contest.

Thanks Roughrider Dad/[lacrosse]...talking [lacrosse] as though you're actually playing. Nothing but class with a Captial K.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MADLAX vs ROUGHRIDERS ?

Roughriders by 7. No contest.

Thanks Roughrider Dad/[lacrosse]...talking [lacrosse] as though you're actually playing. Nothing but class with a Captial K.

Not a RR dad, just an observer of the teams. Who's the [lacrosse] now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MADLAX vs ROUGHRIDERS ?

Roughriders by 7. No contest.

Thanks Roughrider Dad/[lacrosse]...talking [lacrosse] as though you're actually playing. Nothing but class with a Captial K.

Madlax by 8.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MADLAX vs ROUGHRIDERS ?

Roughriders by 7. No contest.

7 ??? must be Madlax parent hoping for the best ?? Get real RR at least by 12..maybe 15 ...well now that I think about it 20.. and that is only if they put in backups entire second half.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MADLAX vs ROUGHRIDERS ?

Roughriders by 7. No contest.

7 ??? must be Madlax parent hoping for the best ?? Get real RR at least by 12..maybe 15 ...well now that I think about it 20.. and that is only if they put in backups entire second half.

Rough riders over madlax 10-4. They only won by 6.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MADLAX vs ROUGHRIDERS ?

Roughriders by 7. No contest.

Thanks Roughrider Dad/[lacrosse]...talking [lacrosse] as though you're actually playing. Nothing but class with a Captial K.

Madlax by 8.

Roughriders 10 Madlax 4

10-4 final RR over Madlax

The semifinals are set

RR vs Hawks
MD91 vs Bethesda

Rough Riders win St Paul's league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MADLAX vs ROUGHRIDERS ?

Roughriders by 7. No contest.

Thanks Roughrider Dad/[lacrosse]...talking [lacrosse] as though you're actually playing. Nothing but class with a Captial K.

Not a RR dad, just an observer of the teams. Who's the [lacrosse] now?

Ummm...You're the [lacrosse] for talking [lacrosse] about 7th grade lax. Grow up you [lacrosse] loser.

Moment of silence for Mark Millon. Bethesda beat the brakes off of his Team 91. I guess the airfares from Texas were high this week?

Championship Game

Bethesda vs Hawks

Should be a good one.

More teams should have played in St. Paul's league. Not sure why Hawks,91.etc did not play. Nothing beats actual playing games. Also would be great to see these teams play against each other more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Championship Game

Bethesda vs Hawks

Should be a good one.

NOT close

Congrats to Hawks on winning HOCO league

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough Riders win St Paul's league.

I heard the Thunder coach had a meltdown in the championship game against RR.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More teams should have played in St. Paul's league. Not sure why Hawks,91.etc did not play. Nothing beats actual playing games. Also would be great to see these teams play against each other more.

Field conditions were horrible last year. Too many games between A level and C level teams which were not good for anyone also.

Fca beat api 9-6

Zone defense goes down again. But hey you won a lot of tournaments in third grade with that zone D

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moment of silence for Mark Millon. Bethesda beat the brakes off of his Team 91. I guess the airfares from Texas were high this week?

Lost with their Texas players there. They played horrible, none of the players could catch or throw at all today!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moment of silence for Mark Millon. Bethesda beat the brakes off of his Team 91. I guess the airfares from Texas were high this week?

Lost with their Texas players there. They played horrible, none of the players could catch or throw at all today!

Bethesda beat T9-1MD 7-1, then Hawks beat Bethesda 11-3. Closest game of the playoffs was Hawks over Roughriders 10-7.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Rough Riders win St Paul's league.

I heard the Thunder coach had a meltdown in the championship game against RR.

He sure did and he got everything he deserved. Not only tossed out of the game but he had to leave the St. Paul facility, those are now the rules. But this pos coach just went to his car and sat there for the remainder of the game. After the game he got out and thought it was funny that he didn't leave the St Paul facility. Plus, the ref had to tell him 3 times to leave.
This is a real good example to show in front of your 2022 players, how to be a total dbag. And that is exactly what he showed. He should be banned from the St Paul league but I doubt that would happen, no one has the guts to do that. This [lacrosse] was bitching about everything from the beginning of the game until he was tossed sometime in the second or third quarter. He was warned several times by the refs but he didn't listen. Bottom line he didn't like that his team was being outplayed in every aspect of the game, won by Roughriders 8/2.
I'm not associated with either the Roughriders or his Thunder team, my son and I stayed after his game to watch.
After he was tossed he was heard bragging that he has been coaching youth lax for over 20 years. If that is true he hasn't learned a thing about youth coaching and neither have the parents of his players who cheered him as he left the field. Seems sometimes teams and parents just don't get it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Hawks on winning HOCO league

Sure, congrats to the new leader of holdbacks in club lacrosse. They are quickly taking the place of Crabs for the number of holdbacks, especially on their 2021 and 2022 black teams.
Just wait, they will come on here and deny it but there are quite a few who know the kids and know which ones they are. And it is a surprising amount.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Hawks on winning HOCO league

Sure, congrats to the new leader of holdbacks in club lacrosse. They are quickly taking the place of Crabs for the number of holdbacks, especially on their 2021 and 2022 black teams.
Just wait, they will come on here and deny it but there are quite a few who know the kids and know which ones they are. And it is a surprising amount.

Do you really think 4 holdbacks leads all 2022 teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Rough Riders win St Paul's league.

I heard the Thunder coach had a meltdown in the championship game against RR.

He sure did and he got everything he deserved. Not only tossed out of the game but he had to leave the St. Paul facility, those are now the rules. But this pos coach just went to his car and sat there for the remainder of the game. After the game he got out and thought it was funny that he didn't leave the St Paul facility. Plus, the ref had to tell him 3 times to leave.
This is a real good example to show in front of your 2022 players, how to be a total dbag. And that is exactly what he showed. He should be banned from the St Paul league but I doubt that would happen, no one has the guts to do that. This [lacrosse] was bitching about everything from the beginning of the game until he was tossed sometime in the second or third quarter. He was warned several times by the refs but he didn't listen. Bottom line he didn't like that his team was being outplayed in every aspect of the game, won by Roughriders 8/2.
I'm not associated with either the Roughriders or his Thunder team, my son and I stayed after his game to watch.
After he was tossed he was heard bragging that he has been coaching youth lax for over 20 years. If that is true he hasn't learned a thing about youth coaching and neither have the parents of his players who cheered him as he left the field. Seems sometimes teams and parents just don't get it.

It's a Bel Air thing. You wouldn't understand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Hawks on winning HOCO league

Sure, congrats to the new leader of holdbacks in club lacrosse. They are quickly taking the place of Crabs for the number of holdbacks, especially on their 2021 and 2022 black teams.
Just wait, they will come on here and deny it but there are quite a few who know the kids and know which ones they are. And it is a surprising amount.

RR parent here. Congrats to the Hawks on Winning the hoco ship. The Hawks are well coach and have set the bar as the team to beat. Win or lose they are the team to beat in MD 2022 and makes our team and my kid better by playing against the best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Hawks on winning HOCO league

Sure, congrats to the new leader of holdbacks in club lacrosse. They are quickly taking the place of Crabs for the number of holdbacks, especially on their 2021 and 2022 black teams.
Just wait, they will come on here and deny it but there are quite a few who know the kids and know which ones they are. And it is a surprising amount.

That didn't take long. LMAO

So someone knows something about someone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Hawks on winning HOCO league

Sure, congrats to the new leader of holdbacks in club lacrosse. They are quickly taking the place of Crabs for the number of holdbacks, especially on their 2021 and 2022 black teams.
Just wait, they will come on here and deny it but there are quite a few who know the kids and know which ones they are. And it is a surprising amount.

Do tell Mr. Surprised.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Hawks on winning HOCO league

Sure, congrats to the new leader of holdbacks in club lacrosse. They are quickly taking the place of Crabs for the number of holdbacks, especially on their 2021 and 2022 black teams.
Just wait, they will come on here and deny it but there are quite a few who know the kids and know which ones they are. And it is a surprising amount.

That didn't take long. LMAO

So someone knows something about someone.

Classic haters! Bitterness sits in after haters (parents) realize how much money and self gratification they loss this year. The good news for you ya there is a ton of summer tournaments to enter that the Hawks won't be in.
Hawks have been fun to watch all year and are very well coached. RR took it to them again for 2nd time this year and they pulled it out. BLC must have been spent after their first game. Hawks defense too much for all teams today.

sideline reporter...

The sad thing is Fca , Hawks ,RR, Bethesda , Crabs . They can only win with Holdbacks ..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sad thing is Fca , Hawks ,RR, Bethesda , Crabs . They can only win with Holdbacks ..

Where is the crying Jordan face when you need it?

After watching most of the elite games today and then the A games I wI'll say that there us a big deference in the leagues and I applude all the teame that played today. The Hawks/RR game was great. Hawks came out kicking their butts but RR took the punches and keeping coming back.
I watch some of the BLC/91 game but 91 just did not have it today and BLC played well to win.

Here is the best thing that all of these teams are very good and all of the kids that play on them should have a good lacrosse future. Some of the coaches take it a little crazy so please do not ruin it for the kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sad thing is Fca , Hawks ,RR, Bethesda , Crabs . They can only win with Holdbacks ..

. Exactly how do you know any of the mentioned teams have holdbacks? What proof do you have, such as players names, birth dates or copies of birth certificates? Talk is cheap and easy, especially when it is coming out of your butt. You sound like a sore loser who's son can't make it on a top tier team so you attack the better teams with pure lies and unproven facts .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sad thing is Fca , Hawks ,RR, Bethesda , Crabs . They can only win with Holdbacks ..

You're right. Without them Looneys would be the best. Oh yeah, they have holdbacks too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sad thing is Fca , Hawks ,RR, Bethesda , Crabs . They can only win with Holdbacks ..

It is sad how some teams play in leagues with rules they don't like and complain constantly instead of playing in a different league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sad thing is Fca , Hawks ,RR, Bethesda , Crabs . They can only win with Holdbacks ..

18-6 dback dbag. Hawks hope to have a B team next year. Hope a lot of the Dbacks will try out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sad thing is Fca , Hawks ,RR, Bethesda , Crabs . They can only win with Holdbacks ..

They should probably implement that ID checking system your club uses at tryouts. I wish clubs would just fly in Texas talent and quit it with this holdback nonsense. Geez.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sad thing is Fca , Hawks ,RR, Bethesda , Crabs . They can only win with Holdbacks ..

18-6 dback dbag. Hawks hope to have a B team next year. Hope a lot of the Dbacks will try out

API Diamondbacks have holdbacks also. I don't know if any "pure" team at the elite level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sad thing is Fca , Hawks ,RR, Bethesda , Crabs . They can only win with Holdbacks ..

18-6 dback dbag. Hawks hope to have a B team next year. Hope a lot of the Dbacks will try out

API Diamondbacks have holdbacks also. I don't know if any "pure" team at the elite level.

Zone Defense

Take always from the 2022 season.

Well run, good officiating and very organized.

Mark M. Should not coach youth. He does not have the temperament for it. His camps may be very good, but coaching in a competitive situation is not his strength. Unfortunate for that team/club.

Hawks proved to be the best team from top to bottom.
With that being said, the competition and talent in this league is top notch.

RR and Hawks are the best coached teams. The coaches seem to put their players in the best position to succeed more than any other.

The faceoff kid for Hawks is really special. Wins to himself in various ways. Really good.

RR and Hawks goalies are clearly the best in this league. RR goalie is more athletic and uses that ability. Hawks goalie can make any and every throw on the field and seems to be in more control of his defense. Both really good.

Crabs are in trouble. I am sure Jumbo will recruit new players, but this groups is lacking a lot. Not sure if talent, coaching or both.

API has not gotten any better. It is not the zone defense, it is the fact that these kids have not been developed. Going to be a wasted trip to Denver.

FCA has tons of talent. Just not sure the coaching is up to the level of talent.

Madlax may be in the same boat as crabs.

Next Level should not have been in Elite.

Bethesda. Inconsistent but have good talent. Maybe the Madlax and Bethesda kids will go one way or another to make a really good team.

Good luck to all the teams this summer. I am sure each team will prove that the DMV area is still the best for lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Take always from the 2022 season.

Well run, good officiating and very organized.

Mark M. Should not coach youth. He does not have the temperament for it. His camps may be very good, but coaching in a competitive situation is not his strength. Unfortunate for that team/club.

Hawks proved to be the best team from top to bottom.
With that being said, the competition and talent in this league is top notch.

RR and Hawks are the best coached teams. The coaches seem to put their players in the best position to succeed more than any other.

The faceoff kid for Hawks is really special. Wins to himself in various ways. Really good.

RR and Hawks goalies are clearly the best in this league. RR goalie is more athletic and uses that ability. Hawks goalie can make any and every throw on the field and seems to be in more control of his defense. Both really good.

Crabs are in trouble. I am sure Jumbo will recruit new players, but this groups is lacking a lot. Not sure if talent, coaching or both.

API has not gotten any better. It is not the zone defense, it is the fact that these kids have not been developed. Going to be a wasted trip to Denver.

FCA has tons of talent. Just not sure the coaching is up to the level of talent.

Madlax may be in the same boat as crabs.

Next Level should not have been in Elite.

Bethesda. Inconsistent but have good talent. Maybe the Madlax and Bethesda kids will go one way or another to make a really good team.

Good luck to all the teams this summer. I am sure each team will prove that the DMV area is still the best for lacrosse.

Good, solid, fair post. I agree with most. The parents of the backup goalies for RR and Hawks were both within earshot of me and both sets were not happy that the coaches didn't play their kid. Both should probably go to other clubs because I guess they will never be good enough to get on the field with RR and Hawks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Take always from the 2022 season.

Well run, good officiating and very organized.

Mark M. Should not coach youth. He does not have the temperament for it. His camps may be very good, but coaching in a competitive situation is not his strength. Unfortunate for that team/club.

Hawks proved to be the best team from top to bottom.
With that being said, the competition and talent in this league is top notch.

RR and Hawks are the best coached teams. The coaches seem to put their players in the best position to succeed more than any other.

The faceoff kid for Hawks is really special. Wins to himself in various ways. Really good.

RR and Hawks goalies are clearly the best in this league. RR goalie is more athletic and uses that ability. Hawks goalie can make any and every throw on the field and seems to be in more control of his defense. Both really good.

Crabs are in trouble. I am sure Jumbo will recruit new players, but this groups is lacking a lot. Not sure if talent, coaching or both.

API has not gotten any better. It is not the zone defense, it is the fact that these kids have not been developed. Going to be a wasted trip to Denver.

FCA has tons of talent. Just not sure the coaching is up to the level of talent.

Madlax may be in the same boat as crabs.

Next Level should not have been in Elite.

Bethesda. Inconsistent but have good talent. Maybe the Madlax and Bethesda kids will go one way or another to make a really good team.

Good luck to all the teams this summer. I am sure each team will prove that the DMV area is still the best for lacrosse.

Good, solid, fair post. I agree with most. The parents of the backup goalies for RR and Hawks were both within earshot of me and both sets were not happy that the coaches didn't play their kid. Both should probably go to other clubs because I guess they will never be good enough to get on the field with RR and Hawks

Note to all parents of goalies. "If you are going to have your son play goalie and have him play travel you must be ready to move clubs on a yearly time frame. Club ball means the coahes/players want to play to win. This means they will keep the top goalie in the whole game unless up or down a ton. So no matter how good your son is, you need to be open to a better kid showing up one fall at tryouts and your son will be siting the bench for a year. Smart parents have two or more tryouts per year sorry I agree it sucks and could send your son a bad message but 2K or more is a lot of money to waste to see little Johnny with a clean uniform every weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good, solid, fair post. I agree with most. The parents of the backup goalies for RR and Hawks were both within earshot of me and both sets were not happy that the coaches didn't play their kid. Both should probably go to other clubs because I guess they will never be good enough to get on the field with RR and Hawks

That's a load of crap. The Hawks backup goalie was in a cast, with a broken arm and splits time with the other kid when he is healthy. Not sure about the RR kid, but since you made up the part about the Hawks parents, I doubt that you were actually strategically placed between two sets of goalie parents complaining loud enough for you to hear. Get a life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good, solid, fair post. I agree with most. The parents of the backup goalies for RR and Hawks were both within earshot of me and both sets were not happy that the coaches didn't play their kid. Both should probably go to other clubs because I guess they will never be good enough to get on the field with RR and Hawks

That's a load of crap. The Hawks backup goalie was in a cast, with a broken arm and splits time with the other kid when he is healthy. Not sure about the RR kid, but since you made up the part about the Hawks parents, I doubt that you were actually strategically placed between two sets of goalie parents complaining loud enough for you to hear. Get a life.

Response is very accurate. Hawks back up is in a cast. Maybe you heard that they were disappointed that he was injured.

Get your story straight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sad thing is Fca , Hawks ,RR, Bethesda , Crabs . They can only win with Holdbacks ..

18-6 dback dbag. Hawks hope to have a B team next year. Hope a lot of the Dbacks will try out

Dbacks has holdbacks too. Not sure why they would be the ones complaining.

A few further comments as unbiased former Division I player, parent and fan of the game. Hawks are clearly the deepest, well coached, and are very difficult to play against in all aspects of the game. Suspect they may be the best team in the country which we will find out over the course of the next few months. Bethesda clearly had numerous injuries and played with what looks like 15-17 players and FOGO kid was out - Very well coached team - holding 90+1 to one goal is impressive. RR are well coached, and athletic. Talent pool is deep. FCA has some of the best athletes, plays really solid D, and can face-off really well/compete at the X. When they figure out the O, will be a tough out for any team. API zone hurts them more than helps. Only constant is Hawks continuing to set the bar very high at 2022. Big, Fast, Skilled, and athletic = success. All other teams improving, but bar is high. Top to bottom is likely deepest division in HOCO, and great opportunity for the kids to compete and grow. Coaches at 2022 are the whose who of the 1990;s in Division I lacrosse. Kids are fortunate to play, be coached by, and compete with the best. Good luck to all in the tourney's and lets show some MD pride and class

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good, solid, fair post. I agree with most. The parents of the backup goalies for RR and Hawks were both within earshot of me and both sets were not happy that the coaches didn't play their kid. Both should probably go to other clubs because I guess they will never be good enough to get on the field with RR and Hawks

That's a load of crap. The Hawks backup goalie was in a cast, with a broken arm and splits time with the other kid when he is healthy. Not sure about the RR kid, but since you made up the part about the Hawks parents, I doubt that you were actually strategically placed between two sets of goalie parents complaining loud enough for you to hear. Get a life.

Response is very accurate. Hawks back up is in a cast. Maybe you heard that they were disappointed that he was injured.

Get your story straight.

The real story is that the coach broke his arm so he wouldn't look like a jerk for not playing him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good, solid, fair post. I agree with most. The parents of the backup goalies for RR and Hawks were both within earshot of me and both sets were not happy that the coaches didn't play their kid. Both should probably go to other clubs because I guess they will never be good enough to get on the field with RR and Hawks

That's a load of crap. The Hawks backup goalie was in a cast, with a broken arm and splits time with the other kid when he is healthy. Not sure about the RR kid, but since you made up the part about the Hawks parents, I doubt that you were actually strategically placed between two sets of goalie parents complaining loud enough for you to hear. Get a life.

Response is very accurate. Hawks back up is in a cast. Maybe you heard that they were disappointed that he was injured.

Get your story straight.

And the RR goalie parents have full understanding that their son will not play in games like that.

Jumbo can try to recruit all the players he wants. No one is going to move to play for that team that is good enough to make that mess better. The good kids that they do have are going to scatter like cockroaches unless fat crab gives them a big discount on dues like he did for several kids this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good, solid, fair post. I agree with most. The parents of the backup goalies for RR and Hawks were both within earshot of me and both sets were not happy that the coaches didn't play their kid. Both should probably go to other clubs because I guess they will never be good enough to get on the field with RR and Hawks

That's a load of crap. The Hawks backup goalie was in a cast, with a broken arm and splits time with the other kid when he is healthy. Not sure about the RR kid, but since you made up the part about the Hawks parents, I doubt that you were actually strategically placed between two sets of goalie parents complaining loud enough for you to hear. Get a life.

Response is very accurate. Hawks back up is in a cast. Maybe you heard that they were disappointed that he was injured.

Get your story straight.

And the RR goalie parents have full understanding that their son will not play in games like that.

Funny statement that is so far from the truth.. This site really does have trolls on it.
RR starter and both Hawks keepers are the 3 best in this league and the country . It is not even close.

RoughRider parent here. We know the other Hawks goalie and his dad. The kid has a broken hand and is out so ZERO chance his dad was complaining about him not playing yesterday. Even if he was able to play, not his style to complain if he wasn't playing

Wish all teams played each other at least once if not twice. Great competition all around. Next Level will make adjustments this summer and get them in right spots to succeed. This Elite level is really good and fun to watch. All other teams were placed right and the level of play was high. Should be a fun summer with a lot of good tournaments.

DC express was a top team this year for 2021 elite. So which kids will migrate to the 2022 team that will be formed in August?

API/DBACK

They do not have holdbacks .. they are going to the World Series of lacrosse ....the whole team is going

Unfortunate that 7th graders play one sport all year (i.e. Hawks) They will burn out and get overuse injuries. Multisport is proven to lead to success in sports and life.( lacrosse dad orthopaedic surgeon)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API/DBACK

They do not have holdbacks .. they are going to the World Series of lacrosse ....the whole team is going

Except a fogo and a couple other kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunate that 7th graders play one sport all year (i.e. Hawks) They will burn out and get overuse injuries. Multisport is proven to lead to success in sports and life.( lacrosse dad orthopaedic surgeon)

You are thinking of pitchers in baseball and tennis players which put excessive stress on one particular movement. You really think soccer, football, and basketball work entirely different muscles and joints than lacrosse? Hawks and other top level clubs due minor lacrosse activities and a few practices in the off season to keep muscle memory there but not much more.

[quote=Anonymous]Unfortunate that 7th graders play one sport all year (i.e. Hawks) They will burn out and get overuse injuries. Multisport is proven to lead to success in sports and life.( lacrosse dad orthopaedic surgeon).

Doing anything all year round can cause overuse injury. Players should take a break and let the body rest. Going from one sport to the other doesn't change that risk. Unless you are calling chest a sport.

Why go to Denver when you can't win in Maryland???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API/DBACK

They do not have holdbacks .. they are going to the World Series of lacrosse ....the whole team is going

Stop lying. You know this isn't true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why go to Denver when you can't win in Maryland???

True enough. They went 2-5 in HOCO with their holdback kids. How will they do in Denver without them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Unfortunate that 7th graders play one sport all year (i.e. Hawks) They will burn out and get overuse injuries. Multisport is proven to lead to success in sports and life.( lacrosse dad orthopaedic surgeon).

Doing anything all year round can cause overuse injury. Players should take a break and let the body rest. Going from one sport to the other doesn't change that risk. Unless you are calling chest a sport.

Every Hawk player plays 2 or 3 sports a year. It is encourage and supported by the club. As is most clubs out there. Whats unfortunate is tools like you coming on here thinking you know about a team or club and then trying to call them out on something that is completely false. Sorry your kid lost or didn't make the Hawks team or for what ever reason you feel the need to try and make an example and a point by only using particular club. (lacrosse dad, lacrosse player, father of 3 sport 12 year old , orthopedic surgeon).
Rest is the only way to avoid injuries and this age and it is up to the parents and athlete to make that happen. Not a Club or Organization

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why go to Denver when you can't win in Maryland???

Everyone going to wsyl knows it is just a vacation to Denver to see the area and do some hiking. The lacrosse competition is a joke. The real tournaments are back east (Millon, NLF, Young Guns)

I doubt your board certified though

Yes the kid is a month to old because of the cut off . The rest of API kids are on age and No Holdbacks . They did go 2-5 at hoco but lost 2 games by 1 point with less then 30 sec on the clock . Those games could of gone different. It's funny Young guns tournament won't be good this year because all the good Long Island teams pulled out and going to WYSL. The other top team couldn't go because half their teams are to old that's the only reason . Stop lying to yourself about the top teams they are to old. The only team that can talk [lacrosse] is the Hawks that kick [lacrosse] out of API . All other teams any one could win

Is api still playing in Millons tournament? 2-5 spring record. No quaility wins. No quality wins in the fall. How can they still be invited?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes the kid is a month to old because of the cut off . The rest of API kids are on age and No Holdbacks . They did go 2-5 at hoco but lost 2 games by 1 point with less then 30 sec on the clock . Those games could of gone different. It's funny Young guns tournament won't be good this year because all the good Long Island teams pulled out and going to WYSL. The other top team couldn't go because half their teams are to old that's the only reason . Stop lying to yourself about the top teams they are to old. The only team that can talk [lacrosse] is the Hawks that kick [lacrosse] out of API . All other teams any one could win

I hope this is a kid. Embarrassing grammar. Also, what column do one goal games go under? Enjoy your trip. Please don't embarrass MD with that awful zone defense. It worked well in 3rd grade when kids couldn't shoot, but not so much these days.

The DBags HAVE to go to Denver because they can't win in MD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DBags HAVE to go to Denver because they can't win in MD

Not a fan of the coach and his style, but remember you're talking about kids who seem to be good kids who play hard and clean.

Any predictions for top 2022 team in DMV for 2017-18?

Northern high school a 3A school just won the states with a zone and colleges play it . So what's is your point about a zone defense ...

APi can win in MD and go to Denver but the other teams can't because to many holdbacks .. That is the truth

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is api still playing in Millons tournament? 2-5 spring record. No quaility wins. No quality wins in the fall. How can they still be invited?

True but they still have to be considered a top team overall. They can beat 90% of the 2022 teams out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northern high school a 3A school just won the states with a zone and colleges play it . So what's is your point about a zone defense ...

It's not working for API. They led the league in goals against. That's my point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is api still playing in Millons tournament? 2-5 spring record. No quaility wins. No quality wins in the fall. How can they still be invited?

True but they still have to be considered a top team overall. They can beat 90% of the 2022 teams out there.

What constitutes a 7th grade quality win?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northern high school a 3A school just won the states with a zone and colleges play it . So what's is your point about a zone defense ...

If a team wins playing a zone there is a problem. If a team wins and they have some reclassed kids there is a problem.

Sounds like LOSER TALK to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes the kid is a month to old because of the cut off . The rest of API kids are on age and No Holdbacks . They did go 2-5 at hoco but lost 2 games by 1 point with less then 30 sec on the clock . Those games could of gone different. It's funny Young guns tournament won't be good this year because all the good Long Island teams pulled out and going to WYSL. The other top team couldn't go because half their teams are to old that's the only reason . Stop lying to yourself about the top teams they are to old. The only team that can talk [lacrosse] is the Hawks that kick [lacrosse] out of API . All other teams any one could win

I hope this is a kid. Embarrassing grammar. Also, what column do one goal games go under? Enjoy your trip. Please don't embarrass MD with that awful zone defense. It worked well in 3rd grade when kids couldn't shoot, but not so much these days.

So the Diamondbacks don't have holdbacks, just kids that don't meet the age requirements. Thanks for clarifying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes the kid is a month to old because of the cut off . The rest of API kids are on age and No Holdbacks . They did go 2-5 at hoco but lost 2 games by 1 point with less then 30 sec on the clock . Those games could of gone different. It's funny Young guns tournament won't be good this year because all the good Long Island teams pulled out and going to WYSL. The other top team couldn't go because half their teams are to old that's the only reason . Stop lying to yourself about the top teams they are to old. The only team that can talk [lacrosse] is the Hawks that kick [lacrosse] out of API . All other teams any one could win

I hope this is a kid. Embarrassing grammar. Also, what column do one goal games go under? Enjoy your trip. Please don't embarrass MD with that awful zone defense. It worked well in 3rd grade when kids couldn't shoot, but not so much these days.

So the Diamondbacks don't have holdbacks, just kids that don't meet the age requirements. Thanks for clarifying.

Just like every team in the state of Maryland! If you have 1 than you have no room to come on here bash particular kids or teams. Please start a new forum and call it CRY BABY DADDIES

The Young Guns Tourney is not as good this year without the Long Island teams:
2022AA
Annapolis Hawks
Crabs
Edge - Canada
Leading Edge
Madlax
MD Roughriders
Mesa Futures
Next Level
Philadelphia Freedom
PA Roughriders Elite

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Young Guns Tourney is not as good this year without the Long Island teams:
2022AA
Annapolis Hawks
Crabs
Edge - Canada
Leading Edge
Madlax
MD Roughriders
Mesa Futures
Next Level
Philadelphia Freedom
PA Roughriders Elite

Looks strong to me.

Hawks , mad lax ,md roughriders good the rest are A teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Young Guns Tourney is not as good this year without the Long Island teams:
2022AA
Annapolis Hawks
Crabs
Edge - Canada
Leading Edge
Madlax
MD Roughriders
Mesa Futures
Next Level
Philadelphia Freedom
PA Roughriders Elite

Looks strong to me.

Yes, still strong, but the best teams shown already played in HoCo this spring. Also, it's very hard to say you have an elite tournament without the best of Long Island and Maryland present.

lol

Millions tournament will be the best grade base tournament this year for 2022. That will be a hard one to win

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millions tournament will be the best grade base tournament this year for 2022. That will be a hard one to win

Thanks Mark... I think the NLF will be the toughest

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millions tournament will be the best grade base tournament this year for 2022. That will be a hard one to win

Thanks Mark... I think the NLF will be the toughest

Who is in NLF that is missing from Millon's?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millions tournament will be the best grade base tournament this year for 2022. That will be a hard one to win

Thanks Mark... I think the NLF will be the toughest

Who is in NLF that is missing from Millon's?

Igloo and t9-1 md are missing.

91 is MM team

Team from MD wins it, IMO... holdbacks will control the games

Whatever that National Championship tournament is looks like it has most of the best teams in the country. That is a tournament I would go just to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Young Guns Tourney is not as good this year without the Long Island teams:
2022AA
Annapolis Hawks
Crabs
Edge - Canada
Leading Edge
Madlax
MD Roughriders
Mesa Futures
Next Level
Philadelphia Freedom
PA Roughriders Elite

Looks strong to me.

Yes, still strong, but the best teams shown already played in HoCo this spring. Also, it's very hard to say you have an elite tournament without the best of Long Island and Maryland present.

This tournament is an original Elite Tourney before there was a million to choose from. WSYL same weekend.
This line up is pretty good and should be a good one. Except for maybe the new MM tourney this year, there has never been a top to bottom Elite tourney. Young Guns was the closet thing to it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team from MD wins it, IMO... holdbacks will control the games

Don't even bother showing up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team from MD wins it, IMO... holdbacks will control the games

Igloo 2022 is the team to beat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millions tournament will be the best grade base tournament this year for 2022. That will be a hard one to win

Thanks Mark... I think the NLF will be the toughest

Who is in NLF that is missing from Millon's?

Igloo and t9-1 md are missing.

http://youthlaxchampionship.com

API ranked #3 13U team nationally heading into WSYL.

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...inside-lacrosse-13u-world-rankings/49653

Their is not a weak team in that tournament . You have to work hard to this tournament . Their will be some great lacrosse being played

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API ranked #3 13U team nationally heading into WSYL.

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...inside-lacrosse-13u-world-rankings/49653

Whatever api is a sinking ship they will not even have a team next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API ranked #3 13U team nationally heading into WSYL.

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...inside-lacrosse-13u-world-rankings/49653

Tells you quite a bit about how weak the wsyl is when the 6th best team in D.C., md, and va is the 3rd best in a world wide tourney.

Why is the WSYL so weak because they have rules and your holdbacks can't play . The top teams in md wouldn't be any good if you take away your holdbacks. Hawks,Bethesda, Roughriders, FCA,CRABS,Team91,.The sad thing is you had to get holdbacks to compete when Diamondbacks was killing everyone. Since Diamondbacks don't have holdbacks you beat them now. You should be so proud that older kids are beating younger kids. If lacrosse went to age base your team wouldn't be so good and your boy would have to play at his age and he wouldn't be so good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is the WSYL so weak because they have rules and your holdbacks can't play . The top teams in md wouldn't be any good if you take away your holdbacks. Hawks,Bethesda, Roughriders, FCA,CRABS,Team91,.The sad thing is you had to get holdbacks to compete when Diamondbacks was killing everyone. Since Diamondbacks don't have holdbacks you beat them now. You should be so proud that older kids are beating younger kids. If lacrosse went to age base your team wouldn't be so good and your boy would have to play at his age and he wouldn't be so good.

Dbacks weren't killing everyone. Dumb

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is the WSYL so weak because they have rules and your holdbacks can't play . The top teams in md wouldn't be any good if you take away your holdbacks. Hawks,Bethesda, Roughriders, FCA,CRABS,Team91,.The sad thing is you had to get holdbacks to compete when Diamondbacks was killing everyone. Since Diamondbacks don't have holdbacks you beat them now. You should be so proud that older kids are beating younger kids. If lacrosse went to age base your team wouldn't be so good and your boy would have to play at his age and he wouldn't be so good.

Sad commentary. so if we go back to an age base system there will still be kids a year older and a year younger! Why is this so hard for you to understand. Youth sports has always been this way. You are crying because your son plays against a kid 1 year older? Sad. good luck in High school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is the WSYL so weak because they have rules and your holdbacks can't play . The top teams in md wouldn't be any good if you take away your holdbacks. Hawks,Bethesda, Roughriders, FCA,CRABS,Team91,.The sad thing is you had to get holdbacks to compete when Diamondbacks was killing everyone. Since Diamondbacks don't have holdbacks you beat them now. You should be so proud that older kids are beating younger kids. If lacrosse went to age base your team wouldn't be so good and your boy would have to play at his age and he wouldn't be so good.

Yes rules that are completely different than those of MD rules!

One year older is ok but some these kids are 2 to 3 years older. In high school that is fine because he will have hit puberty and will be just as strong but when you have a 12 who hasn't hit puberty against a 14 year who has hit puberty big difference . That 14 is more aggressive,stronger,faster and a lot bigger.

your an idiot...if you think hold backs don't have an advantage your out of your mind. why does everyone complain about them. Youth sports were never that way. If your were good you played up never down. Screw prefirst and all holdbacks just cheating plain and simple Lax is the only sport that allows it...NOT in football baseball basketball soccer just in cheating lacrosse. If your kid is that good play UP.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is the WSYL so weak because they have rules and your holdbacks can't play . The top teams in md wouldn't be any good if you take away your holdbacks. Hawks,Bethesda, Roughriders, FCA,CRABS,Team91,.The sad thing is you had to get holdbacks to compete when Diamondbacks was killing everyone. Since Diamondbacks don't have holdbacks you beat them now. You should be so proud that older kids are beating younger kids. If lacrosse went to age base your team wouldn't be so good and your boy would have to play at his age and he wouldn't be so good.

Sad commentary. so if we go back to an age base system there will still be kids a year older and a year younger! Why is this so hard for you to understand. Youth sports has always been this way. You are crying because your son plays against a kid 1 year older? Sad. good luck in High school

The sad commentary is from YOU! Prefirsts/holdbacks/reclassed as it relates to YOUTH lacrosse in a grade based environment is to gain an advantage over others. Very simple concept except to apologists like you.

It does work for many players which makes it so popular. And especially the MIAA private school kids. The prefists were at a disadvantage when they had to play at age a few years ago. Now they have an advantage of being the oldest every single year they play youth.

Eric Spanos has the chance of being the best player of all time

My kid is a hold back, and I feel that if I want him to be the best person in the world I must hold him back for 3-4 years so he can not only kill in sports but also kill in grades.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is the WSYL so weak because they have rules and your holdbacks can't play . The top teams in md wouldn't be any good if you take away your holdbacks. Hawks,Bethesda, Roughriders, FCA,CRABS,Team91,.The sad thing is you had to get holdbacks to compete when Diamondbacks was killing everyone. Since Diamondbacks don't have holdbacks you beat them now. You should be so proud that older kids are beating younger kids. If lacrosse went to age base your team wouldn't be so good and your boy would have to play at his age and he wouldn't be so good.

The absurdity of this argument is that any club polices holdbacks. Point me to the page on API's website where they discourage or preclude holdbacks from trying out for their teams. Oh yeah, you said there is at least one. Why doesn't that kid play up? Maybe you lose that one goal game without him? The more likely scenario is that there just aren't a lot of kids trying out for API these days, and at the same time, the team slowly bleeds players who are tired of that team for one reason or another. Get real. API would take the best 2022 players that showed up to their tryouts regardless of whether they are a July '03 birthday or Oct. '03 birthday. Besides geography, I'm not sure what will bring kids back to tryouts this year.

I feel like my son Eric spanos is the best lacrosse player in the world.

A few kids born in summer does not make these teams full of holdbacks 1-2 years older. That's a weak argument. Plus the coaches just pick from the best at tryouts and the best kids will go to the best coaches. Don't say you chose to have no holdbacks (or leave them behind for Denver). It's just the best kids chose not to tryout for your team. If the rules changed the same teams would be good, it might just mean 3 or 4 kids might change.

Alystair Hemberger Is the best attackmen on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

your an idiot...if you think hold backs don't have an advantage your out of your mind. why does everyone complain about them. Youth sports were never that way. If your were good you played up never down. Screw prefirst and all holdbacks just cheating plain and simple Lax is the only sport that allows it...NOT in football baseball basketball soccer just in cheating lacrosse. If your kid is that good play UP.

No, doing pre-first or repeating a grade in school, is not cheating at anything. That is a false, negative statement, and is useless rhetoric. The differing curriculums expose a contentious debate, but no, nothing you state represents cheating or anything of a nefarious nature. Playing up until the HS years is the best way to improve for any kid that is able, so that should be encouraged at the youth level in grade-based systems. That is a positive statement that makes sense. If we had more positive parents, coaches, and club directors, and less idiots like yourself, than we would probably see more kids playing up for the right reasons, and less kids playing down for the wrong reasons. But we don't have that, and instead, we have mostly folks that can find something to complain about at the drop of a dime, and take every opportunity to do so. As a result, like the boy who cried wolf, nobody is interested anymore and just keeps plugging along until the checks stop coming or clearing. So take a number in line, and actually, screw you.

I'll get the popcorn.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API ranked #3 13U team nationally heading into WSYL.

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...inside-lacrosse-13u-world-rankings/49653

I guarantee that 3 if not 4 teams from LI will be in the semi-finals and 2 will be in the finals just like last year. There schools have a 12/1/03 or 1/1/04 start date and they don't have pre-first or allow reclassing/holding back. That is why they will always win age based tournaments regardless of the birthdate they use.

The teams that go to the Million Tournament will be the same teams you will be watching from you couch on 7/4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API ranked #3 13U team nationally heading into WSYL.

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...inside-lacrosse-13u-world-rankings/49653

I guarantee that 3 if not 4 teams from LI will be in the semi-finals and 2 will be in the finals just like last year. There schools have a 12/1/03 or 1/1/04 start date and they don't have pre-first or allow reclassing/holding back. That is why they will always win age based tournaments regardless of the birthdate they use.

The teams that go to the Million Tournament will be the same teams you will be watching from you couch on 7/4.

I thought the LI teams brought down kids from the older team for WSYL. In years past, that has been the case.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year older is ok but some these kids are 2 to 3 years older. In high school that is fine because he will have hit puberty and will be just as strong but when you have a 12 who hasn't hit puberty against a 14 year who has hit puberty big difference . That 14 is more aggressive,stronger,faster and a lot bigger.

What team has 14 year olds? Seriously?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year older is ok but some these kids are 2 to 3 years older. In high school that is fine because he will have hit puberty and will be just as strong but when you have a 12 who hasn't hit puberty against a 14 year who has hit puberty big difference . That 14 is more aggressive,stronger,faster and a lot bigger.

What team has 14 year olds? Seriously?

Every AA team. That equates to anyone that did prefirst or has ever repeated one grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year older is ok but some these kids are 2 to 3 years older. In high school that is fine because he will have hit puberty and will be just as strong but when you have a 12 who hasn't hit puberty against a 14 year who has hit puberty big difference . That 14 is more aggressive,stronger,faster and a lot bigger.

What team has 14 year olds? Seriously?

Crabs, FCA and Hawks

I have a 2019 and he was a FEB. baby. He started Va schools at 5 like normal. His time playing grade based teams at the AA level he played with several teammates 18 months older then him. You can decide to be mad or sad about this but the older ones where ahead of him all the way tell about now his Soph. year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year older is ok but some these kids are 2 to 3 years older. In high school that is fine because he will have hit puberty and will be just as strong but when you have a 12 who hasn't hit puberty against a 14 year who has hit puberty big difference . That 14 is more aggressive,stronger,faster and a lot bigger.

What team has 14 year olds? Seriously?

What team has 12 year olds? Seriously?

It funny because if you read back to page like 70 something I made a point about the same thing with 1 year is fine but teams with kids that are 2 to 3 years older is a problem. Someone jumpedl on it the post and said no kids or that much older and blah blah blah. It is the truth.
The other thing that has been pointed out is that Hawks and 91 have players from out of state playing on there teams. That is some crazy [lacrosse]. We do not have enough good players in the DMV area that they need to pull kids from out of the region. My son is lucky enough to play on one of the best coached teams in the region. We do not have the best players but with the best coach he makes our players better ad we compete against all of these All Star style teams because of that.

they would be cheaters all prefirst...GO BACK TO BIRTHDAYS LIKE EVERY OTHER YOUTH SPORT

The DBacks have about 5 players that are still 12 . My will son will be 13 august . The private-school has advantage over public school because they dont do pre k and then reclass . So some teams have 14 year olds and maybe a young 15 year depending on Birthday .But that is up to their parents to do what's best for their kid. The private school is just taking advantage of the situation and so are the club team. The sad thing is the holdback can't make a elite team at his age so he has to play down to make a team . API coach doesn't allow holdbacks maybe he will next year . It's hard to compete because API is so small against these teams . It is what it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they would be cheaters all prefirst...GO BACK TO BIRTHDAYS LIKE EVERY OTHER YOUTH SPORT

Then what would all the MIAA prefirst kids do??? Play against their own age like the other players do the with same birthday...Not Fair!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The DBacks have about 5 players that are still 12 . My will son will be 13 august . The private-school has advantage over public school because they dont do pre k and then reclass . So some teams have 14 year olds and maybe a young 15 year depending on Birthday .But that is up to their parents to do what's best for their kid. The private school is just taking advantage of the situation and so are the club team. The sad thing is the holdback can't make a elite team at his age so he has to play down to make a team . API coach doesn't allow holdbacks maybe he will next year . It's hard to compete because API is so small against these teams . It is what it is.

What a crock of [lacrosse].

That is very noble stand by the coach to not allow hold backs. It will be very interesting to see if his policy changes next year as the Diamondbacks have historically flopped as HS years approached. The good kids would either go Crabs or Hawks and I would bet that history holds serve on this one. The only problem being is that these kids have not gotten better over the last few years. The skill development, regardless of their age, has been pretty shameful under this staff. Doubt even the better kids could make Crabs or Hawks.

Aren't some of these coaches on the JV staff at Spalding? Aren't Diamondbacks a feeder club for Spalding if the kids don't stay public at Severna Park? Lacking development of this team, staff also at Spalding, Spalding has 0 wins in MIAA this year and only 1 win last year. 1 + 1 = .....

What a joke api has holdbacks. Had them last year also. They would have more but no one wants to play for the coaches. Can't develop players. Daddy ball in king. Kids are leaving. Good coach in 3 grade but that's it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It funny because if you read back to page like 70 something I made a point about the same thing with 1 year is fine but teams with kids that are 2 to 3 years older is a problem. Someone jumpedl on it the post and said no kids or that much older and blah blah blah. It is the truth.
The other thing that has been pointed out is that Hawks and 91 have players from out of state playing on there teams. That is some crazy [lacrosse]. We do not have enough good players in the DMV area that they need to pull kids from out of the region. My son is lucky enough to play on one of the best coached teams in the region. We do not have the best players but with the best coach he makes our players better ad we compete against all of these All Star style teams because of that.

I don't have a problem with kids coming from other states, if they tried out and made the team, paid the dues and is really a part of the team. This takes place on almost every club team in high school.Players want to play in the best league in the country. Did your kid try out for those teams?
What team has kids that are 2-3 years older? I find it really hard to believe that 14-15 years are on any of these teams.

As far as coaching almost every team at this level 2022 elite has top notch coaching. It is also very clear each year to see what teams get better and are being well coached. "All Star style teams " That is funny statement, What teams might they be? Every year clubs have try outs and every single player out there has a opportunity to tryout and play for any team. Luck has nothing to do with it.

The excuses made on this site are comical and dads who are bitter.

Start making some factual statements.

I do don't disagree with you . That is why API will blow up at the end of the summer . But I will say the kids could make the Hawks and crabs they made it Hawks last year but stayed with API.

Claiming development of a hold back/older kid is easy but not realistic. My son plays for batlimore club and my older son goes to McDonogh. These posters have no clue as these younger kids will catch up as the older kids have some reached or almost reached the talent ceiling. Seen this many times with 3 boys. Btw- is the hawks a fielder for st Mary's? McDonogh beat the pants off them 2 times this year so looks like the hold backs are not really being developed. Fools gold. Keep bringing in out of state kids to play and taking time from local players. Btw. Spalding has a lot of hawks players too. Wow. You buried yourself on this one. RIP poster. You been sentenced to stupidity.

Hawks out of area kids come to practice and earn PT. 91 kids fly in on game day and step right into starting lineup. The St. Mary's situation has more to do with coaching than talent. API does have great talent, but they are not put into a position to succeed. I see them going the way of the Cannons.

The spring season did not disappoint. Lots of competitive games and the best league in the country top to bottom. Regardless of how successful your team was in elite bracket, keep in mind that there were 32 other 2022 teams playing in lower level brackets. There are a ton of players in club lax and this elite group is among the best in the country.

The almighty, "I am from Baltimore and I have seen so I know all" poster. Look mom, if you read the post it is clear that the poster was making the coorelation of the coaching staff being at both organizations and neither of them winning. Nothing about hold backs. Sounds like mommy's little boys got burned by the bmore lacrosse politics and is bitter.

Glad your boys go to MCD, they are sure to get a better education and thrive at reading comprehension more than their mommy. Good luck to your other son. Sure Crabs is preparing him well.

And Mom, don't take yourself too serious on these blogs. It could ruin your lasting memories with your boys. Next thing you know you will be drinking Boone's Farm and smoking Virginia Slims again. I have seen this happen many times

The solution to the holdback nonsense that is played by the Baltimore clubs that feed to the MIAA schools is to follow US Lacrosse guidelines and go to age based classification this fill. The "eighth grade" teams that are being fielded by Crabs, FCA, Loonies, etc. are a joke. Teams full of 15 year olds pretending to be 8th graders. In Baltimore the term "elite" is interchangeable with "reclassed". If your kid can't compete - just have him repeat a grade....

The 2022 coaches have 11 or 12 wins in the Miaa a conference over 3 years and they are JV coaches. I was coached in college by one of them and they are respected in the miaa A. My older son plays for ND younger plays for crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 2022 coaches have 11 or 12 wins in the Miaa a conference over 3 years and they are JV coaches. I was coached in college by one of them and they are respected in the miaa A. My older son plays for ND younger plays for crabs.

Playing for that Crabs team may be too much of a Hurdle to overcome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The solution to the holdback nonsense that is played by the Baltimore clubs that feed to the MIAA schools is to follow US Lacrosse guidelines and go to age based classification this fill. The "eighth grade" teams that are being fielded by Crabs, FCA, Loonies, etc. are a joke. Teams full of 15 year olds pretending to be 8th graders. In Baltimore the term "elite" is interchangeable with "reclassed". If your kid can't compete - just have him repeat a grade....

Some of these 8th grade teams are HUGE.. It is hilarious when you hear "look at that great player" as he mows down a player 1-2 years younger.

Worst part is there actually are a few Huge true age 8th graders..But now they get lumped in with all the rest of the holdbacks.

Wont change as MIAA schools completely support this holdback/reclass/prefirst garbage due to having the majority enrolled in their schools.
And if you are a very good lacrosse player..MIAA is where you want to play ! So get used to it in Maryland.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks out of area kids come to practice and earn PT. 91 kids fly in on game day and step right into starting lineup. The St. Mary's situation has more to do with coaching than talent. API does have great talent, but they are not put into a position to succeed. I see them going the way of the Cannons.

The spring season did not disappoint. Lots of competitive games and the best league in the country top to bottom. Regardless of how successful your team was in elite bracket, keep in mind that there were 32 other 2022 teams playing in lower level brackets. There are a ton of players in club lax and this elite group is among the best in the country.

Why would they leave one dumpster fire to go to another? Cannons? Come on.

They will stay with Api or tryout for a GOOD program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do don't disagree with you . That is why API will blow up at the end of the summer . But I will say the kids could make the Hawks and crabs they made it Hawks last year but stayed with API.

API might have 2 players that could help the Hawks. Many could go to the Crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks out of area kids come to practice and earn PT. 91 kids fly in on game day and step right into starting lineup. The St. Mary's situation has more to do with coaching than talent. API does have great talent, but they are not put into a position to succeed. I see them going the way of the Cannons.

The spring season did not disappoint. Lots of competitive games and the best league in the country top to bottom. Regardless of how successful your team was in elite bracket, keep in mind that there were 32 other 2022 teams playing in lower level brackets. There are a ton of players in club lax and this elite group is among the best in the country.

They players will join the Rough Riders if they leave.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year older is ok but some these kids are 2 to 3 years older. In high school that is fine because he will have hit puberty and will be just as strong but when you have a 12 who hasn't hit puberty against a 14 year who has hit puberty big difference . That 14 is more aggressive,stronger,faster and a lot bigger.

What team has 14 year olds? Seriously?

Crabs, FCA and Hawks

Not one of those teams has a 14 year old , not one

[quote=Anonymous]Claiming development of a hold back/older kid is easy but not realistic. My son plays for batlimore club and my older son goes to McDonogh. These posters have no clue as these younger kids will catch up as the older kids have some reached or almost reached the talent ceiling. Seen this many times with 3 boys. Btw- is the hawks a fielder for st Mary's? McDonogh beat the pants off them 2 times this year so looks like the hold backs are not really being developed. Fools gold. Keep bringing in out of state kids to play and taking time from local players. Btw. Spalding has a lot of hawks players too. Wow. You buried yourself on this one. RIP poster. You been sentenced to stupidity

[/quote

Stupidity is this statement! Funny you use this poster to bash Saint Marys,Spalding and Hawks. It is for certain that McDonogh and Baltimore clubs promote holdbacks and have the most in the country. McDonogh also recruits kids from all over the country and board them. Spalding and St Marys have the least amount as any school in the MIAA which is why they have struggled in that league. Oh wait just 3 years ago St Marys spanked Mcdonough for the league title with not 1 single holdback.
Sounds like bitterness towards the Hawks,
Hawks also play for almost every MIAA school this year.
Check the coaching staffs for every Hawks team and compare to all other clubs. 6 Hawks teams made it to Championship day in the HOCO league.
The only smart thing said is that boys always catch up __ Everything else is pure stupidity.
]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Claiming development of a hold back/older kid is easy but not realistic. My son plays for batlimore club and my older son goes to McDonogh. These posters have no clue as these younger kids will catch up as the older kids have some reached or almost reached the talent ceiling. Seen this many times with 3 boys. Btw- is the hawks a fielder for st Mary's? McDonogh beat the pants off them 2 times this year so looks like the hold backs are not really being developed. Fools gold. Keep bringing in out of state kids to play and taking time from local players. Btw. Spalding has a lot of hawks players too. Wow. You buried yourself on this one. RIP poster. You been sentenced to stupidity.

Clearly you are a hater. Did you read what you wrote?

Yep, DBags are destined to become 2022 Cannons, assuming their players can make other teams. They are in for a shock if they tryout for Roughriders or Hawks. Daddy's little superstar might not even make those teams or worse yet, they will but now will be daddy's little 4th line middie

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep, DBags are destined to become 2022 Cannons, assuming their players can make other teams. They are in for a shock if they tryout for Roughriders or Hawks. Daddy's little superstar might not even make those teams or worse yet, they will but now will be daddy's little 4th line middie

You sound bitter. Your son get cut from API or something?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep, DBags are destined to become 2022 Cannons, assuming their players can make other teams. They are in for a shock if they tryout for Roughriders or Hawks. Daddy's little superstar might not even make those teams or worse yet, they will but now will be daddy's little 4th line middie

More likely those coaches will take an API 4th line middie and develop him into a contributing player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year older is ok but some these kids are 2 to 3 years older. In high school that is fine because he will have hit puberty and will be just as strong but when you have a 12 who hasn't hit puberty against a 14 year who has hit puberty big difference . That 14 is more aggressive,stronger,faster and a lot bigger.

What team has 14 year olds? Seriously?

Crabs, FCA and Hawks

Not one of those teams has a 14 year old , not one

That's not true. There are definitely 14 yr old 2022 players. Crabs has several. FCA has a couple. Hawks has plenty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One year older is ok but some these kids are 2 to 3 years older. In high school that is fine because he will have hit puberty and will be just as strong but when you have a 12 who hasn't hit puberty against a 14 year who has hit puberty big difference . That 14 is more aggressive,stronger,faster and a lot bigger.

What team has 14 year olds? Seriously?

Crabs, FCA and Hawks

Not one of those teams has a 14 year old , not one

That's not true. There are definitely 14 yr old 2022 players. Crabs has several. FCA has a couple. Hawks has plenty.

They all came from Crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep, DBags are destined to become 2022 Cannons, assuming their players can make other teams. They are in for a shock if they tryout for Roughriders or Hawks. Daddy's little superstar might not even make those teams or worse yet, they will but now will be daddy's little 4th line middie

You sound bitter. Your son get cut from API or something?

I would make him quit the sport if he got cut from the dbags

So what weak team does your son play for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what weak team does your son play for.

Well, our "weak" team beat the dbags. Of course since everyone beats the dbags, it doesn't narrow it down any.

Everyone beats dbags full of [lacrosse] . Your son doesn't play for a elite team ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 2022 coaches have 11 or 12 wins in the Miaa a conference over 3 years and they are JV coaches. I was coached in college by one of them and they are respected in the miaa A. My older son plays for ND younger plays for crabs.

Playing for that Crabs team may be too much of a Hurdle to overcome.

LOL, I write in complete sentences and know when to capitalize proper nouns: I don't post on this forum as it contains little to no analysis of the game. Also, almost all of the 2022 coaches are young enough to be one of my sons. Was fortunate to be on the coaching staffs of four MIAA teams that went a collective 74-4 in four years. Catfish someone else please.

Summer season starts this weekend any good matchups ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 2022 coaches have 11 or 12 wins in the Miaa a conference over 3 years and they are JV coaches. I was coached in college by one of them and they are respected in the miaa A. My older son plays for ND younger plays for crabs.

Playing for that Crabs team may be too much of a Hurdle to overcome.

LOL, I write in complete sentences and know when to capitalize proper nouns: I don't post on this forum as it contains little to no analysis of the game. Also, almost all of the 2022 coaches are young enough to be one of my sons. Was fortunate to be on the coaching staffs of four MIAA teams that went a collective 74-4 in four years. Catfish someone else please.

With such a great history of coaching, maybe you should try coaching this bunch. Three different coaching staffs have been unable to get through to them obviously.

Was a bit player for a great ensemble cast. At this point, its really about fundamentals and improvement and less about winning (although I'll be the first to tell you losing all of the time stinks). There will be enough time for that in high school and college.

Putting together a winning team is like building a three legged stool: 1) you need talent (at least 2 good A, D, LSM, two good keepers and four middies of which 2 can face off. 2) Schemes that match your personnel: if you have less talent on offense you need to take advantage of off ball movement, picks, screens and seals. Perfect your offensive system decision making while allowing kids to be creative. The less defensive talent you have, pack it in and pray you have a great keeper. Perfect the slide packages and decision making. 3) Game and practice planning: You need to watch yourselves on film (coaches first and then a coaches and players together) focusing on teaching moments so you don't keep making the same stupid mistakes again. Specialist coaches for keepers and FOGOS (wing play also) and contingency plans for the following: ten man ride, MDD or even up zone D, etc. Fundamental repetition in practices (min of 3-4 days per week in season) with a healthy dose of new situational teaching/coaching and old lesson reinforcement. Always use the Socratic method in film and practice sessions. Today's kids are visual learners. Teach them how to watch film and make them get up in front of their peers and explain it. If you can get a big enough classroom, invite the parents to sit (they have to be quiet as a church mouse) through the film sessions. When the parents and players all understand the objectives and fundamentals of the offensive and defensive schemes and hear the boys self evaluate, they quickly realize "the film never lies".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was a bit player for a great ensemble cast. At this point, its really about fundamentals and improvement and less about winning (although I'll be the first to tell you losing all of the time stinks). There will be enough time for that in high school and college.

Putting together a winning team is like building a three legged stool: 1) you need talent (at least 2 good A, D, LSM, two good keepers and four middies of which 2 can face off. 2) Schemes that match your personnel: if you have less talent on offense you need to take advantage of off ball movement, picks, screens and seals. Perfect your offensive system decision making while allowing kids to be creative. The less defensive talent you have, pack it in and pray you have a great keeper. Perfect the slide packages and decision making. 3) Game and practice planning: You need to watch yourselves on film (coaches first and then a coaches and players together) focusing on teaching moments so you don't keep making the same stupid mistakes again. Specialist coaches for keepers and FOGOS (wing play also) and contingency plans for the following: ten man ride, MDD or even up zone D, etc. Fundamental repetition in practices (min of 3-4 days per week in season) with a healthy dose of new situational teaching/coaching and old lesson reinforcement. Always use the Socratic method in film and practice sessions. Today's kids are visual learners. Teach them how to watch film and make them get up in front of their peers and explain it. If you can get a big enough classroom, invite the parents to sit (they have to be quiet as a church mouse) through the film sessions. When the parents and players all understand the objectives and fundamentals of the offensive and defensive schemes and hear the boys self evaluate, they quickly realize "the film never lies".

Look I agree with you. But you have watched this team(and club for that matter) for many years. Have you ever seen Crabs perfect an offensive system that wasn't solely reliant on having enough bigger, faster horses to drive the alley and shoot? I mean there is no ball movement in the offense the club runs. They dodge from the top off a screen. Every opponent knows what they run. RM is not a coach or a schemer.(Well at least not when it comes to lacrosse) The current 2022 coaches looked great when they had the 2021 team and the 2020's the year before. Those teams were full of bigger, faster kids. The 2022's are not and there has been absolutely ZERO effort made to develop a system that would improve them as players and also as a team.

Maybe API and Crabs can merge at this grade and have one competive team.

Competitive

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe API and Crabs can merge at this grade and have one competive team.

Or, more likely, next year Crabs will just pick up most of the best players around that have emerged this season, and will complete building the team that will head into the HS years. 2022 has been a slow-developing class, not like the 2021's or 23's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe API and Crabs can merge at this grade and have one competive team.

Or, more likely, next year Crabs will just pick up most of the best players around that have emerged this season, and will complete building the team that will head into the HS years. 2022 has been a slow-developing class, not like the 2021's or 23's.

If you think anyone is moving to that Crabs team you are sorely mistaken. There's a reason RM is going to stay with the 2021's next year and not coach 8th grade like he always does.

Crabs: Their defense is poor. Middies good. Attack average.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe API and Crabs can merge at this grade and have one competive team.

Or, more likely, next year Crabs will just pick up most of the best players around that have emerged this season, and will complete building the team that will head into the HS years. 2022 has been a slow-developing class, not like the 2021's or 23's.

If you think anyone is moving to that Crabs team you are sorely mistaken. There's a reason RM is going to stay with the 2021's next year and not coach 8th grade like he always does.

There's no example in recent history for any of the classes, so take your personal stuff out of it, they will have top 10-15 team by Fall. 2022's are generally weak, so it will have taken about a year more than usual to build, but just no reason to believe kids/parents that are taking this seriously going into HS will pass up an opportunity to take advantage of proven success.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe API and Crabs can merge at this grade and have one competive team.

Or, more likely, next year Crabs will just pick up most of the best players around that have emerged this season, and will complete building the team that will head into the HS years. 2022 has been a slow-developing class, not like the 2021's or 23's.

If you think anyone is moving to that Crabs team you are sorely mistaken. There's a reason RM is going to stay with the 2021's next year and not coach 8th grade like he always does.

There's no example in recent history for any of the classes, so take your personal stuff out of it, they will have top 10-15 team by Fall. 2022's are generally weak, so it will have taken about a year more than usual to build, but just no reason to believe kids/parents that are taking this seriously going into HS will pass up an opportunity to take advantage of proven success.

The landscape is changing. Plenty of high level D1 players in the last few years coming from programs like Looney's, Rock, Rough Riders, FCA, Hawks, etc., etc. Kids and parents realize that if you are good enough, you can and will be recruited regardless of what club you play for.

You say that the Crabs 2022 class has been slow developing and then admit that they will "just pick up the best players around" who want an " opportunity to take advantage of proven success." No denying that the Crabs have had their fair share of outstanding players in the past, but it also seems clear that today's Crabs teams aren't developing talent as much as they are trying to recruit talent developed by other clubs. If you want what is best for your son, find a coach and club that will develop his talent and not an organization that wants his talent to develop the club.

After next year everything changes for this age group the moment they start playing JV,Varsity for their High School.
It is also clear for those players and crazy parents which Club teams over the past 3 or 4 years has been getting better year after year.
Not winning every game or league or tournament doesn't mean that a club is getting better and coaching is top notch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe API and Crabs can merge at this grade and have one competive team.

Or, more likely, next year Crabs will just pick up most of the best players around that have emerged this season, and will complete building the team that will head into the HS years. 2022 has been a slow-developing class, not like the 2021's or 23's.

If you think anyone is moving to that Crabs team you are sorely mistaken. There's a reason RM is going to stay with the 2021's next year and not coach 8th grade like he always does.

There's no example in recent history for any of the classes, so take your personal stuff out of it, they will have top 10-15 team by Fall. 2022's are generally weak, so it will have taken about a year more than usual to build, but just no reason to believe kids/parents that are taking this seriously going into HS will pass up an opportunity to take advantage of proven success.

Problem is, everyone looking from the outside sees that those kids haven't gotten any better in now their 3rd year with the program. Meanwhile kids are developing on other teams. The first question any parent should ask is who is my son going to be playing for. Look at the Crabs. Tell me one coach in that program you would want in charge of developing your son's game. There are better options now and parents know that.

21's are hot, 23's are hot, all HS teams are top 10 literally. Sorry, 22's will fill in as always. Take personal out of it, just natural course of things. Despite your best intentions, the script is already written. Sorry, what did you want, perfection all of the time, every time!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

21's are hot, 23's are hot, all HS teams are top 10 literally. Sorry, 22's will fill in as always. Take personal out of it, just natural course of things. Despite your best intentions, the script is already written. Sorry, what did you want, perfection all of the time, every time!

Time will tell. The team isn't even that far behind truth be told.

I think what everyone is forgetting is how the Sept 1st of Jr. year rule is going to change everything again. With this new rule it is even more important to be on a top top top team. Maryland's 2022 class will be 0 kids tell the night of Sept 1.of there Jr year. So the college coaches will have so many more notes on each kid. So you will need to be on a top team in the best tournaments and in the finals as much as possible. In the old landscape they had to see a kid one or two times and say yes or no. Now with this new rule your son will get in theory 2 more full years of coaches notes for him to say yes or no I want this kid. But without being able to call or talk to them you will have no idea if your son is a top D1 player or a D2 hopeful. So you all may risk it being on a second tier team if you want. But I will stick with all the teams in the NLF.

Ah - the NLF - another money making scheme from the fat crab. No early recruiting puts a dent in his holdback scheme so - now we have the NLF. If a kid is good - coaches will see him/find him. Don't buy the BS these club coaches sell...

Coming off a successful season for the club, it will be interesting to see what shakes out for DC Express 2022 this year. I'm thinking quite a few kids will be trying to make the roster...especially from the NoVA side.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you all may risk it being on a second tier team if you want.

Exactly why no one is moving to Crabs 2022. They couldn't even get kids to stay after offering to scholarship them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you all may risk it being on a second tier team if you want.

Exactly why no one is moving to Crabs 2022. They couldn't even get kids to stay after offering to scholarship them.

There was no shortage of talent at Crab's tryout's last year and I'm sure it will be the same this year. I'm sure there are plenty of 2021's on mediocre teams that would love to jump on Crab's 2022.

Scholarship?.....As in, if you stay we will no longer charge you? Something like that is few and far between for any club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you all may risk it being on a second tier team if you want.

Exactly why no one is moving to Crabs 2022. They couldn't even get kids to stay after offering to scholarship them.

There was no shortage of talent at Crab's tryout's last year and I'm sure it will be the same this year. I'm sure there are plenty of 2021's on mediocre teams that would love to jump on Crab's 2022.

Scholarship?.....As in, if you stay we will no longer charge you? Something like that is few and far between for any club.

You can't be referring to the talent at the Crabs 2022 tryout this year. There weren't even 20 kids there.

And yes, the club offered kids discounted fees to stay this year.

The Crabs selling point of getting kids recruited early went out the window when ER rules changed. Re-classed kids who looked like superstars against younger kids are going to just look like everyone else now because all the other kids have gone through puberty. The gig is up for fat crab. Better come up with a new shiny object to sell.

I have heard that people always love to tear down whoever is at the top. And I have always heard the grass is always greener on the other side my whole life. Well after reading these posts these two saying seem to fit. I am new to lacrosse, my son is trying out for club for the first time. I was told to read this site to see the dirt and what people say about club lacrosse in the area. And after reading these posts I think I will make sure my son tries out for the Crabs,Madlax or Team91. The amount of hate towards these three clubs I am reading means to me they must be the best. Just like the news I am watching on TV these days these posts all seem to lack one thing facts and real numbers to back up the hate for each of these 3 clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have heard that people always love to tear down whoever is at the top. And I have always heard the grass is always greener on the other side my whole life. Well after reading these posts these two saying seem to fit. I am new to lacrosse, my son is trying out for club for the first time. I was told to read this site to see the dirt and what people say about club lacrosse in the area. And after reading these posts I think I will make sure my son tries out for the Crabs,Madlax or Team91. The amount of hate towards these three clubs I am reading means to me they must be the best. Just like the news I am watching on TV these days these posts all seem to lack one thing facts and real numbers to back up the hate for each of these 3 clubs.

No one said those clubs weren't talented or that the kids were bad kids. The owners just leave something to be desired. Come back in the fall and let us know where you end up.

Is it just me or is the breakers and aloha tournaments a huge scam? They only play in their own tournaments. Coaching is weak.

Numbers- crabs 2022 had a losing record and missed playoffs in nypll, lost a play in playoff game last year in HoCo, and had a losing record this year in HoCo and missed the playoffs. The team did not have enough kids at ryiuts first year to make cuts. On the other hand, crabs 2021 and 2023 dominate. So it is not about club criticism, the reality is the crabs 2022 team is not competitive. And the crabs 2024 is worse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me or is the breakers and aloha tournaments a huge scam? They only play in their own tournaments. Coaching is weak.

Breakers are not the Breakers of old.Mark Million left with all the players a couple years ago and started Team MD 90 +1. Not much left now at the Breakers.

Aloha and Breakers same owner.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Numbers- crabs 2022 had a losing record and missed playoffs in nypll, lost a play in playoff game last year in HoCo, and had a losing record this year in HoCo and missed the playoffs. The team did not have enough kids at ryiuts first year to make cuts. On the other hand, crabs 2021 and 2023 dominate. So it is not about club criticism, the reality is the crabs 2022 team is not competitive. And the crabs 2024 is worse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Numbers- crabs 2022 had a losing record and missed playoffs in nypll, lost a play in playoff game last year in HoCo, and had a losing record this year in HoCo and missed the playoffs. The team did not have enough kids at ryiuts first year to make cuts. On the other hand, crabs 2021 and 2023 dominate. So it is not about club criticism, the reality is the crabs 2022 team is not competitive. And the crabs 2024 is worse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Numbers- crabs 2022 had a losing record and missed playoffs in nypll, lost a play in playoff game last year in HoCo, and had a losing record this year in HoCo and missed the playoffs. The team did not have enough kids at ryiuts first year to make cuts. On the other hand, crabs 2021 and 2023 dominate. So it is not about club criticism, the reality is the crabs 2022 team is not competitive. And the crabs 2024 is worse.

Not a Crabs advocate but it's kinda creepy that anyone would remember 3 years of youth lacrosse records. Get a life dude...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have heard that people always love to tear down whoever is at the top. And I have always heard the grass is always greener on the other side my whole life. Well after reading these posts these two saying seem to fit. I am new to lacrosse, my son is trying out for club for the first time. I was told to read this site to see the dirt and what people say about club lacrosse in the area. And after reading these posts I think I will make sure my son tries out for the Crabs,Madlax or Team91. The amount of hate towards these three clubs I am reading means to me they must be the best. Just like the news I am watching on TV these days these posts all seem to lack one thing facts and real numbers to back up the hate for each of these 3 clubs.

You're an idiot. Probably the biggest idiot I've seen on this site and that's saying something. Congratulations and best of luck to your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have heard that people always love to tear down whoever is at the top. And I have always heard the grass is always greener on the other side my whole life. Well after reading these posts these two saying seem to fit. I am new to lacrosse, my son is trying out for club for the first time. I was told to read this site to see the dirt and what people say about club lacrosse in the area. And after reading these posts I think I will make sure my son tries out for the Crabs,Madlax or Team91. The amount of hate towards these three clubs I am reading means to me they must be the best. Just like the news I am watching on TV these days these posts all seem to lack one thing facts and real numbers to back up the hate for each of these 3 clubs.

You're an idiot. Probably the biggest idiot I've seen on this site and that's saying something. Congratulations and best of luck to your kid.

People rip apart Looneys & FCA constantly also. Add them to the list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Crabs selling point of getting kids recruited early went out the window when ER rules changed. Re-classed kids who looked like superstars against younger kids are going to just look like everyone else now because all the other kids have gone through puberty. The gig is up for fat crab. Better come up with a new shiny object to sell.

Early recruiting was not in the model, just a result of success. Same as normal recruiting was, and will continue to be, a result of their success. Parents do most of the work with recruiting at any club; it's the club's mission to produce great teams, great players, and put the kids in a position to be scouted. Crabs is successful, because they consistently have top teams at the important age groups, go to the right events, and draw scouting attention. Despite the sideline youth lax parent critics, colleges don't care about the fat crab jokes or the holdback rhetoric. Are Crabs HS teams consistently able to be scouted for prospective talent, yes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have heard that people always love to tear down whoever is at the top. And I have always heard the grass is always greener on the other side my whole life. Well after reading these posts these two saying seem to fit. I am new to lacrosse, my son is trying out for club for the first time. I was told to read this site to see the dirt and what people say about club lacrosse in the area. And after reading these posts I think I will make sure my son tries out for the Crabs,Madlax or Team91. The amount of hate towards these three clubs I am reading means to me they must be the best. Just like the news I am watching on TV these days these posts all seem to lack one thing facts and real numbers to back up the hate for each of these 3 clubs.

You're an idiot. Probably the biggest idiot I've seen on this site and that's saying something. Congratulations and best of luck to your kid.

People rip apart Looneys & FCA constantly also. Add them to the list.

Crabs, FCA, Looneys all suck. The B teams are the greatest.

10 minutes of research of the Hoco standings and playoff results in all divisions shows that Crabs and FCA are still top 10 teams in MD.

1 - Hawks Green
2 - Bethesda
3 - Team 91
4 - Rough Riders
5 - Madlax
6 - FCA Blue
7 - Crabs
8 - API Diamondbacks
9 - Next Level Black
10 - 3D Select
11 - Club Blue
12 - Lax Factory
13 - Peninsula A
14 - Thunder
15 - Looney's Orange
16 - Rock
17 - FCA White
18 - Kooper's
19 - Cannons
20 - VLC
21 - Cavalier
22 - HoCo
23 - Sidewinders
24 - Chesapeake Storm
25 - Wolfpack
26 - Rockfish
27 - MD Xtreme
28 - Next Level Red
29 - Hereford
30 - Revolution
31 - Zingos
32 - Maryland Wild
33 - Bethesda Orange
34 - Starz
35 - Breakers
36 - Fallston
37 - Greene Turtle
38 - Green Hornets Swarm
39 - Peninsula B
40 - Team 42
41 - Ground Control

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have heard that people always love to tear down whoever is at the top. And I have always heard the grass is always greener on the other side my whole life. Well after reading these posts these two saying seem to fit. I am new to lacrosse, my son is trying out for club for the first time. I was told to read this site to see the dirt and what people say about club lacrosse in the area. And after reading these posts I think I will make sure my son tries out for the Crabs,Madlax or Team91. The amount of hate towards these three clubs I am reading means to me they must be the best. Just like the news I am watching on TV these days these posts all seem to lack one thing facts and real numbers to back up the hate for each of these 3 clubs.

You are the biggest idiot on this forum. Way to base your decision. Good luck to you. You are going to need it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have heard that people always love to tear down whoever is at the top. And I have always heard the grass is always greener on the other side my whole life. Well after reading these posts these two saying seem to fit. I am new to lacrosse, my son is trying out for club for the first time. I was told to read this site to see the dirt and what people say about club lacrosse in the area. And after reading these posts I think I will make sure my son tries out for the Crabs,Madlax or Team91. The amount of hate towards these three clubs I am reading means to me they must be the best. Just like the news I am watching on TV these days these posts all seem to lack one thing facts and real numbers to back up the hate for each of these 3 clubs.

You're an idiot. Probably the biggest idiot I've seen on this site and that's saying something. Congratulations and best of luck to your kid.

People rip apart Looneys & FCA constantly also. Add them to the list.

Crabs, FCA, Looneys all suck. The B teams are the greatest.

Her is what you need to do bunky, reach down and pull your head out of your as*, because that is clearly where it is. From your post is seems obvious that your kid can't make any of the elite club teams and is playing on a B level team, or perhaps rec would be better for him.

its so easy to get everyone riled up on this site....better then a jerry springer show!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

10 minutes of research of the Hoco standings and playoff results in all divisions shows that Crabs and FCA are still top 10 teams in MD.

1 - Hawks Green
2 - Bethesda
3 - Team 91
4 - Rough Riders
5 - Madlax
6 - FCA Blue
7 - Crabs
8 - API Diamondbacks
9 - Next Level Black
10 - 3D Select
11 - Club Blue
12 - Lax Factory
13 - Peninsula A
14 - Thunder
15 - Looney's Orange
16 - Rock
17 - FCA White
18 - Kooper's
19 - Cannons
20 - VLC
21 - Cavalier
22 - HoCo
23 - Sidewinders
24 - Chesapeake Storm
25 - Wolfpack
26 - Rockfish
27 - MD Xtreme
28 - Next Level Red
29 - Hereford
30 - Revolution
31 - Zingos
32 - Maryland Wild
33 - Bethesda Orange
34 - Starz
35 - Breakers
36 - Fallston
37 - Greene Turtle
38 - Green Hornets Swarm
39 - Peninsula B
40 - Team 42
41 - Ground Control

Surprisingly accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me or is the breakers and aloha tournaments a huge scam? They only play in their own tournaments. Coaching is weak.

Breakers are not the Breakers of old.Mark Million left with all the players a couple years ago and started Team MD 90 +1. Not much left now at the Breakers.

Aloha and Breakers same owner.

It's probably no surprise that Aloha is behind that wsyl mess of a tournament also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

10 minutes of research of the Hoco standings and playoff results in all divisions shows that Crabs and FCA are still top 10 teams in MD.

1 - Hawks Green
2 - Bethesda
3 - Team 91
4 - Rough Riders
5 - Madlax
6 - FCA Blue
7 - Crabs
8 - API Diamondbacks
9 - Next Level Black
10 - 3D Select
11 - Club Blue
12 - Lax Factory
13 - Peninsula A
14 - Thunder
15 - Looney's Orange
16 - Rock
17 - FCA White
18 - Kooper's
19 - Cannons
20 - VLC
21 - Cavalier
22 - HoCo
23 - Sidewinders
24 - Chesapeake Storm
25 - Wolfpack
26 - Rockfish
27 - MD Xtreme
28 - Next Level Red
29 - Hereford
30 - Revolution
31 - Zingos
32 - Maryland Wild
33 - Bethesda Orange
34 - Starz
35 - Breakers
36 - Fallston
37 - Greene Turtle
38 - Green Hornets Swarm
39 - Peninsula B
40 - Team 42
41 - Ground Control

Surprisingly accurate.

And Top 10 nationally in hs, which none of the others in this youth md top 10 can say

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it just me or is the breakers and aloha tournaments a huge scam? They only play in their own tournaments. Coaching is weak.

Breakers are not the Breakers of old.Mark Million left with all the players a couple years ago and started Team MD 90 +1. Not much left now at the Breakers.

Aloha and Breakers same owner.

It's probably no surprise that Aloha is behind that wsyl mess of a tournament also.

From Breakers to Broken

Originally Posted by Anonymous

10 minutes of research of the Hoco standings and playoff results in all divisions shows that Crabs and FCA are still top 10 teams in MD.

1 - Hawks Green
2 - Bethesda
3 - Team 91
4 - Rough Riders
5 - Madlax
6 - FCA Blue
7 - Crabs
8 - API Diamondbacks
9 - Next Level Black
10 - 3D Select
11 - Club Blue
12 - Lax Factory
13 - Peninsula A
14 - Thunder
15 - Looney's Orange
16 - Rock
17 - FCA White
18 - Kooper's
19 - Cannons
20 - VLC
21 - Cavalier
22 - HoCo
23 - Sidewinders
24 - Chesapeake Storm
25 - Wolfpack
26 - Rockfish
27 - MD Xtreme
28 - Next Level Red
29 - Hereford
30 - Revolution
31 - Zingos
32 - Maryland Wild
33 - Bethesda Orange
34 - Starz
35 - Breakers
36 - Fallston
37 - Greene Turtle
38 - Green Hornets Swarm
39 - Peninsula B
40 - Team 42
41 - Ground Control

Surprisingly accurate.

And Top 10 nationally in hs, which none of the others in this youth md top 10 can say

Go away Ryan. This is a 2022 forum and all you want to talk about is what could be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

10 minutes of research of the Hoco standings and playoff results in all divisions shows that Crabs and FCA are still top 10 teams in MD.

1 - Hawks Green
2 - Bethesda
3 - Team 91
4 - Rough Riders
5 - Madlax
6 - FCA Blue
7 - Crabs
8 - API Diamondbacks
9 - Next Level Black
10 - 3D Select
11 - Club Blue
12 - Lax Factory
13 - Peninsula A
14 - Thunder
15 - Looney's Orange
16 - Rock
17 - FCA White
18 - Kooper's
19 - Cannons
20 - VLC
21 - Cavalier
22 - HoCo
23 - Sidewinders
24 - Chesapeake Storm
25 - Wolfpack
26 - Rockfish
27 - MD Xtreme
28 - Next Level Red
29 - Hereford
30 - Revolution
31 - Zingos
32 - Maryland Wild
33 - Bethesda Orange
34 - Starz
35 - Breakers
36 - Fallston
37 - Greene Turtle
38 - Green Hornets Swarm
39 - Peninsula B
40 - Team 42
41 - Ground Control

Surprisingly accurate.

And Top 10 nationally in hs, which none of the others in this youth md top 10 can say

Go away Ryan. This is a 2022 forum and all you want to talk about is what could be.

I think he was referring to FCA, but any club with kids playing for Calvert Hall, Bullis, Landon,or McDonough can say they are Top 10 nationally (depending on which poll you are looking at)

Who is winning Laxsplash this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is winning Laxsplash this weekend?

Looks like it will be FCA or South Jersey Black Storm.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is winning Laxsplash this weekend?

All the AA teams that are playing down against the A, B, and rec division teams will win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is winning Laxsplash this weekend?

All the AA teams that are playing down against the A, B, and rec division teams will win.

They need trophies too!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is winning Laxsplash this weekend?

All the AA teams that are playing down against the A, B, and rec division teams will win.

They need trophies too!!

Wow what a weird tournament. Carroll Manor wins it by beating fca even though lax factory beat Carroll Manor 9-1.

What club do the Carroll Manor kids play for?

Carroll Manor did not lose any games. It was a mix of kids from clubs and some kids that don't even play lacrosse any longer. They played together as 4th/5th graders and decided to play the tourney together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carroll Manor did not lose any games. It was a mix of kids from clubs and some kids that don't even play lacrosse any longer. They played together as 4th/5th graders and decided to play the tourney together.

So fca lost to a rec team in lax splash. Smh. Fca lots of talent don't play well as a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carroll Manor did not lose any games. It was a mix of kids from clubs and some kids that don't even play lacrosse any longer. They played together as 4th/5th graders and decided to play the tourney together.

Lots of Koopers 2021s guest playing for a couple teams at laxsplash

Your reading the bracket wrong Carroll manor wins 9-3 on feild 1

Lots ? as in 3.

BLC,Crabs,Hawks,91MD all at NLF
would of been nice to have RR and API there. A lot of good competition this weekend.

API is at big 4 with all those teams the next weekend.
That's what I am hearing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API is at big 4 with all those teams the next weekend.
That's what I am hearing.

Yeah.

Big 4HHH tourney line-up in Philly is very impressive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BLC,Crabs,Hawks,91MD all at NLF
would of been nice to have RR and API there. A lot of good competition this weekend.

Just played them in HoCo. I welcome playing different teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BLC,Crabs,Hawks,91MD all at NLF
would of been nice to have RR and API there. A lot of good competition this weekend.

Just played them in HoCo. I welcome playing different teams.

Not so much to play them but to have all MD top teams there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BLC,Crabs,Hawks,91MD all at NLF
would of been nice to have RR and API there. A lot of good competition this weekend.

Just played them in HoCo. I welcome playing different teams.

Not so much to play them but to have all MD top teams there.

The majority of the top 5 md teams will see each other at NLF, Big 4HHH, Young Guns, and Millon National Championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API is at big 4 with all those teams the next weekend.
That's what I am hearing.

API will not win a game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API is at big 4 with all those teams the next weekend.
That's what I am hearing.

API will not win a game

Easy Big Girl ! API wins it all!!

Anyone go to the warrior game try outs at BL this week?

Diamondbacks are already the early Vegas favorite in the Hoco B conference next year. The ship is sinking. Almost everybody wants to leave. I guess the good news is the players aren't good enough to make the top clubs so maybe some will ride it out another year.

That is what FCA is playing this weekend at Beach lax against HoCO B teams...API doesn't run from competition. The big 4 tournament ,WSYL , Next cup and 2022 nationals in Baltimore .

Rough riders playing summer rumble in Richmond the teams are all B teams . Trophy hunting what a joke ..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders playing summer rumble in Richmond the teams are all B teams . Trophy hunting what a joke ..

We all need to fill the trophy case. A B trophy is better than a A nothing. Who needs to mention B after winning it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rough riders playing summer rumble in Richmond the teams are all B teams . Trophy hunting what a joke ..

We all need to fill the trophy case. A B trophy is better than a A nothing. Who needs to mention B after winning it.

Corrigan runs the tourney and owns the rough riders, The tournament is a freebie for the club. It is corrigans premiere event for kids this age. Why wouldn't they play in it?

Same reason breakers do the Aloha tourneys, Crabs does young guns, and Hawks do naptown. The other clubs pay for your club to play.

Those are better tournaments . The rough riders 2022 is a Double A team playing single A and B teams . That was a very weak tournament should of stayed home and played Rec .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those are better tournaments . The rough riders 2022 is a Double A team playing single A and B teams . That was a very weak tournament should of stayed home and played Rec .

No one, that's no one, gives a rats as* what you think, say, feel or write. There are better people in the world than you, but here we are putting up with a dbag like you.
Why don't you go back and re read what is stated above and then maybe you will understand why the RR played in this.
Now, please tell us which tournament you put on this summer, what's that, I can't hear you, speak up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those are better tournaments . The rough riders 2022 is a Double A team playing single A and B teams . That was a very weak tournament should of stayed home and played Rec .

Jealous!

Calling it for what it is . they are playing in one good tournament . Young guns not as strong this year since LI teams pulled out. Go trophy hunt

Maryland teams with strong showing in New [lacrosse].

Hawks win it
MD91 semi finals
BLC 3-1
Crabs 2-2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maryland teams with strong showing in New [lacrosse].

Hawks win it
MD91 semi finals
BLC 3-1
Crabs 2-2

These teams represented MD well in a tournament with one of the toughest line up of clubs you'll see all summer.

BLC would have made semis if they were in any other bracket.

The big question as always with MD teams are these teams loaded with holdbacks or older kids.... If so..tainted victory for rising 9th graders going against rising 8th graders...if not ..well done

Crabs tied with LI Express with a couple minutes left in final game to get into playoff (and knock LI Express out) despite going 1-10 in F/Os.....team is starting to play to potential.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The big question as always with MD teams are these teams loaded with holdbacks or older kids.... If so..tainted victory for rising 9th graders going against rising 8th graders...if not ..well done

Lol. Joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maryland teams with strong showing in New [lacrosse].

Hawks win it
MD91 semi finals
BLC 3-1
Crabs 2-2

These teams represented MD well in a tournament with one of the toughest line up of clubs you'll see all summer.

BLC would have made semis if they were in any other bracket.

Looks like HoCo league.

Fca won beachlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs tied with LI Express with a couple minutes left in final game to get into playoff (and knock LI Express out) despite going 1-10 in F/Os.....team is starting to play to potential.

Thanks RM. Next time that team beats a good team will be the first.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fca won beachlax

Elite trolling.

Crabs beat the Texas team (which beat Team 89+2),

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs beat the Texas team (which beat Team 89+2),

C'mon. You are going to say that a team from Texas is a quality win for Crabs? Crabs also lost to Eclipse who may have been the worst team at the tournament.

Texas team was very strong.

Who going to philly this weekend? Any good matchups

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs beat the Texas team (which beat Team 89+2),

C'mon. You are going to say that a team from Texas is a quality win for Crabs? Crabs also lost to Eclipse who may have been the worst team at the tournament.

Did 89+2's Texas players play for Millon or Texas Mustangs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The big question as always with MD teams are these teams loaded with holdbacks or older kids.... If so..tainted victory for rising 9th graders going against rising 8th graders...if not ..well done

Lol. Joke

Joke ?? That they dont have older players??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs beat the Texas team (which beat Team 89+2),

C'mon. You are going to say that a team from Texas is a quality win for Crabs? Crabs also lost to Eclipse who may have been the worst team at the tournament.

Did 89+2's Texas players play for Millon or Texas Mustangs?

There were quite a few "guest players" for T9-1MD at NLF. Some may have come from the new 9-1 Carolina Connon connection as well.

Almost every team at NLF was very good and well coached.Tough road ahead for all 2022 teams !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The big question as always with MD teams are these teams loaded with holdbacks or older kids.... If so..tainted victory for rising 9th graders going against rising 8th graders...if not ..well done

Lol. Joke

Joke ?? That they dont have older players??

Joke that you continue to try to "taint" teams being successful.

If it's not the hold backs excuse. It's the team had visiting players or the team was in a weak tournament. Teams that win can't get any praise for working hard and winning by some of you.

Time to get your kid on a winning team so you can stop with the crying. OR

Rec ball in the spring and summers off may be the place for you and your son.

Excuses are for the WEAK

Time for some of these teams to drop out of Millon's championship tourney. There will be hold backs, ringers, MD refs, Millon and a dozen other reasons why you won't succeed. Save yourself the aggravation and expense.

how about admit you have holdbacks admit lacrosse is a cheating game. GO BACK TO BIRTHDAYS...Every YOUTH sport has a cut off for birthdays. Give every team an equal chance at competing so the discussion can finally end. So screw your prefirst hold back kid. Play up if little johnny is that good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time for some of these teams to drop out of Millon's championship tourney. There will be hold backs, ringers, MD refs, Millon and a dozen other reasons why you won't succeed. Save yourself the aggravation and expense.

This is why it's not really a championship, a very competitive tournament maybe, but a championship? No.

hate to tell you they were not MD refs, they were from PG and DC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time for some of these teams to drop out of Millon's championship tourney. There will be hold backs, ringers, MD refs, Millon and a dozen other reasons why you won't succeed. Save yourself the aggravation and expense.

This is why it's not really a championship, a very competitive tournament maybe, but a championship? No.

Just like last year when the Long Island teams did great?

Big 4 HHH tourney is up. Only top team in each bracket advances. One loss and you are probably out. No easy brackets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

how about admit you have holdbacks admit lacrosse is a cheating game. GO BACK TO BIRTHDAYS...Every YOUTH sport has a cut off for birthdays. Give every team an equal chance at competing so the discussion can finally end. So screw your prefirst hold back kid. Play up if little johnny is that good.

Wasn't even at birth year back in the rec days, not enough kids in the rural areas to field teams at every birth year, hence U13, U11, etc. This isn't pee wee football and baseball played across the country in ridiculous numbers. I'm all for playing up if you are dominant, but the negative rhetoric directed at players is not helpful, and does nothing. Grad year has been the cleanest system to date.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The big question as always with MD teams are these teams loaded with holdbacks or older kids.... If so..tainted victory for rising 9th graders going against rising 8th graders...if not ..well done

Lol. Joke

Joke ?? That they dont have older players??

Joke that you continue to try to "taint" teams being successful.

If it's not the hold backs excuse. It's the team had visiting players or the team was in a weak tournament. Teams that win can't get any praise for working hard and winning by some of you.

Time to get your kid on a winning team so you can stop with the crying. OR

Rec ball in the spring and summers off may be the place for you and your son.

Excuses are for the WEAK

That is Hilarious coming from some one who wants everyone else to play hard while he gets to have his child and teammates play down. LOL..

You apologists need to come up with something that is better than that. Or the excuse of " hit the wall" " . I do like the excuse of " playing against older players makes you better" all the while their child gets to be the oldest and play down.

Everyone knows that youth sports while not perfect is made for age based competition. And now with Early Recruiting out and contact not until 11th grade. The excuse for youth based leagues ...we need to put them in grade for recruiting is out the window too.

I think the rule change to the 11th grade is where all the people who hate playing down or reclassing kids should put their focus. With the new rule all teams should only go grade based on each classes 10th grade summer. All levels below this summer should go back to a 12 month or 24 month window of ages. Before the new rule I was more then fine with the logic for grade based teams from 6th or 7th grade on. But with the new rule locked in for sure now. There is no excuse to not change to 9U , 10U, 11U ,12U, 13U ,14U, 10th grade, 11th grade and 12th grade format next summer. This gives you a full year of playing with a team before the 2nd year summer going into the date you can contact and be contacted by college coaches. By rule they can not and you can not talk to them. So there is 100% no reason for a grade based team 9th grade and below. A 24 month window of playing on a grade based team is more then enough time to be seen playing with your recruiting class peers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big 4 HHH tourney is up. Only top team in each bracket advances. One loss and you are probably out. No easy brackets.

Why no LI teams in this? Not many good teams there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the rule change to the 11th grade is where all the people who hate playing down or reclassing kids should put their focus. With the new rule all teams should only go grade based on each classes 10th grade summer. All levels below this summer should go back to a 12 month or 24 month window of ages. Before the new rule I was more then fine with the logic for grade based teams from 6th or 7th grade on. But with the new rule locked in for sure now. There is no excuse to not change to 9U , 10U, 11U ,12U, 13U ,14U, 10th grade, 11th grade and 12th grade format next summer. This gives you a full year of playing with a team before the 2nd year summer going into the date you can contact and be contacted by college coaches. By rule they can not and you can not talk to them. So there is 100% no reason for a grade based team 9th grade and below. A 24 month window of playing on a grade based team is more then enough time to be seen playing with your recruiting class peers.

The better younger players will just start playing up, because the teams will suck. The average kids will still be average, but will be getting beat by younger players instead of older. The libbies will go nuts trying to turn the argument narrative on a dime. Then playing up will be a problem.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big 4 HHH tourney is up. Only top team in each bracket advances. One loss and you are probably out. No easy brackets.

Why no LI teams in this? Not many good teams there.

Lots of LI teams in other grades. This is big tournament when they get to HS. Your coach is doing your team a favor by playing now so they get invite in a few years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the rule change to the 11th grade is where all the people who hate playing down or reclassing kids should put their focus. With the new rule all teams should only go grade based on each classes 10th grade summer. All levels below this summer should go back to a 12 month or 24 month window of ages. Before the new rule I was more then fine with the logic for grade based teams from 6th or 7th grade on. But with the new rule locked in for sure now. There is no excuse to not change to 9U , 10U, 11U ,12U, 13U ,14U, 10th grade, 11th grade and 12th grade format next summer. This gives you a full year of playing with a team before the 2nd year summer going into the date you can contact and be contacted by college coaches. By rule they can not and you can not talk to them. So there is 100% no reason for a grade based team 9th grade and below. A 24 month window of playing on a grade based team is more then enough time to be seen playing with your recruiting class peers.

While I agree with you this is the format all tournaments SHOULD follow the point is that it is NOT what is the current format. Until this changes, teams that allow players to "re-interpret" what the grade definition means are cheaters and send a poor message to the players. I think 7th and 8th grade players are fine playing together however that is just not the current format. When it changes, let the teams mix. I think we all know of kids who have a classmate that played down for a particular club or clubs. If you are a parent and you try to justify this or "re-class" you are simply breaking the rule so a team can win plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big 4 HHH tourney is up. Only top team in each bracket advances. One loss and you are probably out. No easy brackets.

Why no LI teams in this? Not many good teams there.

Lots of LI teams in other grades. This is big tournament when they get to HS. Your coach is doing your team a favor by playing now so they get invite in a few years

Big 3 LI teams are missing but the Best Canadian team -Edge, best Florida team -PB Revolution, best Carolina team- Carolina Cannons, best western NY team-Sweetlax and best Texas team-Mustangs will be there along with most of the MD and PA powers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the rule change to the 11th grade is where all the people who hate playing down or reclassing kids should put their focus. With the new rule all teams should only go grade based on each classes 10th grade summer. All levels below this summer should go back to a 12 month or 24 month window of ages. Before the new rule I was more then fine with the logic for grade based teams from 6th or 7th grade on. But with the new rule locked in for sure now. There is no excuse to not change to 9U , 10U, 11U ,12U, 13U ,14U, 10th grade, 11th grade and 12th grade format next summer. This gives you a full year of playing with a team before the 2nd year summer going into the date you can contact and be contacted by college coaches. By rule they can not and you can not talk to them. So there is 100% no reason for a grade based team 9th grade and below. A 24 month window of playing on a grade based team is more then enough time to be seen playing with your recruiting class peers.

While I agree with you this is the format all tournaments SHOULD follow the point is that it is NOT what is the current format. Until this changes, teams that allow players to "re-interpret" what the grade definition means are cheaters and send a poor message to the players. I think 7th and 8th grade players are fine playing together however that is just not the current format. When it changes, let the teams mix. I think we all know of kids who have a classmate that played down for a particular club or clubs. If you are a parent and you try to justify this or "re-class" you are simply breaking the rule so a team can win plain and simple.

Negative. You are enrolled in a grade at school. It doesn't matter how you got there, if the school accepts your enrollment, you are enrolled. When school ends, you have already enrolled for the next year. If you are repeating, when the current school year ends, you may play your next enrolled grade directly after school lets out after that last day. There is no confusion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I think the rule change to the 11th grade is where all the people who hate playing down or reclassing kids should put their focus. With the new rule all teams should only go grade based on each classes 10th grade summer. All levels below this summer should go back to a 12 month or 24 month window of ages. Before the new rule I was more then fine with the logic for grade based teams from 6th or 7th grade on. But with the new rule locked in for sure now. There is no excuse to not change to 9U , 10U, 11U ,12U, 13U ,14U, 10th grade, 11th grade and 12th grade format next summer. This gives you a full year of playing with a team before the 2nd year summer going into the date you can contact and be contacted by college coaches. By rule they can not and you can not talk to them. So there is 100% no reason for a grade based team 9th grade and below. A 24 month window of playing on a grade based team is more then enough time to be seen playing with your recruiting class peers.

While I agree with you this is the format all tournaments SHOULD follow the point is that it is NOT what is the current format. Until this changes, teams that allow players to "re-interpret" what the grade definition means are cheaters and send a poor message to the players. I think 7th and 8th grade players are fine playing together however that is just not the current format. When it changes, let the teams mix. I think we all know of kids who have a classmate that played down for a particular club or clubs. If you are a parent and you try to justify this or "re-class" you are simply breaking the rule so a team can win plain and simple.

Negative. You are enrolled in a grade at school. It doesn't matter how you got there, if the school accepts your enrollment, you are enrolled. When school ends, you have already enrolled for the next year. If you are repeating, when the current school year ends, you may play your next enrolled grade directly after school lets out after that last day. There is no confusion. [/quote

Negative, you are born on a certain day in a certain year. If you play against kids more than a year younger in order to compete you are not very athletic and are pretty pitiful. I agree, there really is no confusion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I think the rule change to the 11th grade is where all the people who hate playing down or reclassing kids should put their focus. With the new rule all teams should only go grade based on each classes 10th grade summer. All levels below this summer should go back to a 12 month or 24 month window of ages. Before the new rule I was more then fine with the logic for grade based teams from 6th or 7th grade on. But with the new rule locked in for sure now. There is no excuse to not change to 9U , 10U, 11U ,12U, 13U ,14U, 10th grade, 11th grade and 12th grade format next summer. This gives you a full year of playing with a team before the 2nd year summer going into the date you can contact and be contacted by college coaches. By rule they can not and you can not talk to them. So there is 100% no reason for a grade based team 9th grade and below. A 24 month window of playing on a grade based team is more then enough time to be seen playing with your recruiting class peers.

While I agree with you this is the format all tournaments SHOULD follow the point is that it is NOT what is the current format. Until this changes, teams that allow players to "re-interpret" what the grade definition means are cheaters and send a poor message to the players. I think 7th and 8th grade players are fine playing together however that is just not the current format. When it changes, let the teams mix. I think we all know of kids who have a classmate that played down for a particular club or clubs. If you are a parent and you try to justify this or "re-class" you are simply breaking the rule so a team can win plain and simple.

Negative. You are enrolled in a grade at school. It doesn't matter how you got there, if the school accepts your enrollment, you are enrolled. When school ends, you have already enrolled for the next year. If you are repeating, when the current school year ends, you may play your next enrolled grade directly after school lets out after that last day. There is no confusion. [/quote

Negative, you are born on a certain day in a certain year. If you play against kids more than a year younger in order to compete you are not very athletic and are pretty pitiful. I agree, there really is no confusion.

Blah blah blah

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I think the rule change to the 11th grade is where all the people who hate playing down or reclassing kids should put their focus. With the new rule all teams should only go grade based on each classes 10th grade summer. All levels below this summer should go back to a 12 month or 24 month window of ages. Before the new rule I was more then fine with the logic for grade based teams from 6th or 7th grade on. But with the new rule locked in for sure now. There is no excuse to not change to 9U , 10U, 11U ,12U, 13U ,14U, 10th grade, 11th grade and 12th grade format next summer. This gives you a full year of playing with a team before the 2nd year summer going into the date you can contact and be contacted by college coaches. By rule they can not and you can not talk to them. So there is 100% no reason for a grade based team 9th grade and below. A 24 month window of playing on a grade based team is more then enough time to be seen playing with your recruiting class peers.

While I agree with you this is the format all tournaments SHOULD follow the point is that it is NOT what is the current format. Until this changes, teams that allow players to "re-interpret" what the grade definition means are cheaters and send a poor message to the players. I think 7th and 8th grade players are fine playing together however that is just not the current format. When it changes, let the teams mix. I think we all know of kids who have a classmate that played down for a particular club or clubs. If you are a parent and you try to justify this or "re-class" you are simply breaking the rule so a team can win plain and simple.

Negative. You are enrolled in a grade at school. It doesn't matter how you got there, if the school accepts your enrollment, you are enrolled. When school ends, you have already enrolled for the next year. If you are repeating, when the current school year ends, you may play your next enrolled grade directly after school lets out after that last day. There is no confusion. [/quote

Negative, you are born on a certain day in a certain year. If you play against kids more than a year younger in order to compete you are not very athletic and are pretty pitiful. I agree, there really is no confusion.

Blah blah blah

Of course there is no confusion. Youth sports was always to be played with age requirements, Lacrosse always was until the recent Early Recruiting stupidity. Then we HAD to have grade base due to ER at 9th grade. NCAA took care of that stupidity problem with no longer any ER. Only contact in 11th grade now.

Well apologists ...We no longer have ER..are we going back to age at YOUTH teams and grade at High School teams as it always was before??? Or is there another excuse for the apologists to roll out ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I think the rule change to the 11th grade is where all the people who hate playing down or reclassing kids should put their focus. With the new rule all teams should only go grade based on each classes 10th grade summer. All levels below this summer should go back to a 12 month or 24 month window of ages. Before the new rule I was more then fine with the logic for grade based teams from 6th or 7th grade on. But with the new rule locked in for sure now. There is no excuse to not change to 9U , 10U, 11U ,12U, 13U ,14U, 10th grade, 11th grade and 12th grade format next summer. This gives you a full year of playing with a team before the 2nd year summer going into the date you can contact and be contacted by college coaches. By rule they can not and you can not talk to them. So there is 100% no reason for a grade based team 9th grade and below. A 24 month window of playing on a grade based team is more then enough time to be seen playing with your recruiting class peers.

While I agree with you this is the format all tournaments SHOULD follow the point is that it is NOT what is the current format. Until this changes, teams that allow players to "re-interpret" what the grade definition means are cheaters and send a poor message to the players. I think 7th and 8th grade players are fine playing together however that is just not the current format. When it changes, let the teams mix. I think we all know of kids who have a classmate that played down for a particular club or clubs. If you are a parent and you try to justify this or "re-class" you are simply breaking the rule so a team can win plain and simple.

Negative. You are enrolled in a grade at school. It doesn't matter how you got there, if the school accepts your enrollment, you are enrolled. When school ends, you have already enrolled for the next year. If you are repeating, when the current school year ends, you may play your next enrolled grade directly after school lets out after that last day. There is no confusion. [/quote

Negative, you are born on a certain day in a certain year. If you play against kids more than a year younger in order to compete you are not very athletic and are pretty pitiful. I agree, there really is no confusion.

Your opinion is not a rule, though. Your opinion is not relevant. What I stated is merely rule. I think the league goes by rule.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs beat the Texas team (which beat Team 89+2),

C'mon. You are going to say that a team from Texas is a quality win for Crabs? Crabs also lost to Eclipse who may have been the worst team at the tournament.

Did 89+2's Texas players play for Millon or Texas Mustangs?

There were quite a few "guest players" for T9-1MD at NLF. Some may have come from the new 9-1 Carolina Connon connection as well.

You are incorrect, my son plays on this team and the players were the regular 91 players and 3 players from Texas that have been on the roster all year. They cam up all but one weekend for the HoCo games. No add ons or guest players.

Are the players from Texas making all of the practices? If not, they are ringers, guest players or whatever else you want to call them. Great message that sends to the rest of the team. Win at all costs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I think the rule change to the 11th grade is where all the people who hate playing down or reclassing kids should put their focus. With the new rule all teams should only go grade based on each classes 10th grade summer. All levels below this summer should go back to a 12 month or 24 month window of ages. Before the new rule I was more then fine with the logic for grade based teams from 6th or 7th grade on. But with the new rule locked in for sure now. There is no excuse to not change to 9U , 10U, 11U ,12U, 13U ,14U, 10th grade, 11th grade and 12th grade format next summer. This gives you a full year of playing with a team before the 2nd year summer going into the date you can contact and be contacted by college coaches. By rule they can not and you can not talk to them. So there is 100% no reason for a grade based team 9th grade and below. A 24 month window of playing on a grade based team is more then enough time to be seen playing with your recruiting class peers.

While I agree with you this is the format all tournaments SHOULD follow the point is that it is NOT what is the current format. Until this changes, teams that allow players to "re-interpret" what the grade definition means are cheaters and send a poor message to the players. I think 7th and 8th grade players are fine playing together however that is just not the current format. When it changes, let the teams mix. I think we all know of kids who have a classmate that played down for a particular club or clubs. If you are a parent and you try to justify this or "re-class" you are simply breaking the rule so a team can win plain and simple.

Negative. You are enrolled in a grade at school. It doesn't matter how you got there, if the school accepts your enrollment, you are enrolled. When school ends, you have already enrolled for the next year. If you are repeating, when the current school year ends, you may play your next enrolled grade directly after school lets out after that last day. There is no confusion. [/quote

Negative, you are born on a certain day in a certain year. If you play against kids more than a year younger in order to compete you are not very athletic and are pretty pitiful. I agree, there really is no confusion.

Blah blah blah

Of course there is no confusion. Youth sports was always to be played with age requirements, Lacrosse always was until the recent Early Recruiting stupidity. Then we HAD to have grade base due to ER at 9th grade. NCAA took care of that stupidity problem with no longer any ER. Only contact in 11th grade now.

Well apologists ...We no longer have ER..are we going back to age at YOUTH teams and grade at High School teams as it always was before??? Or is there another excuse for the apologists to roll out ??

Sure, just write down your kid's age where it says grade next year at tryouts. We'll take it from there. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs beat the Texas team (which beat Team 89+2),

C'mon. You are going to say that a team from Texas is a quality win for Crabs? Crabs also lost to Eclipse who may have been the worst team at the tournament.

Did 89+2's Texas players play for Millon or Texas Mustangs?

There were quite a few "guest players" for T9-1MD at NLF. Some may have come from the new 9-1 Carolina Connon connection as well.

You are incorrect, my son plays on this team and the players were the regular 91 players and 3 players from Texas that have been on the roster all year. They cam up all but one weekend for the HoCo games. No add ons or guest players.

I watched some of your games, good team especially your poles, they are some of the best athletes in this age group. Long Pole Mid is a beast, I was told that he is 6' 210 LBS and runs like a deer. Since you are being honest how old is that kid. No way he is 13. Same with the big Pole of Def, he is a beast but saw him get run over in Semi Finals which shocked everybody.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I think the rule change to the 11th grade is where all the people who hate playing down or reclassing kids should put their focus. With the new rule all teams should only go grade based on each classes 10th grade summer. All levels below this summer should go back to a 12 month or 24 month window of ages. Before the new rule I was more then fine with the logic for grade based teams from 6th or 7th grade on. But with the new rule locked in for sure now. There is no excuse to not change to 9U , 10U, 11U ,12U, 13U ,14U, 10th grade, 11th grade and 12th grade format next summer. This gives you a full year of playing with a team before the 2nd year summer going into the date you can contact and be contacted by college coaches. By rule they can not and you can not talk to them. So there is 100% no reason for a grade based team 9th grade and below. A 24 month window of playing on a grade based team is more then enough time to be seen playing with your recruiting class peers.

While I agree with you this is the format all tournaments SHOULD follow the point is that it is NOT what is the current format. Until this changes, teams that allow players to "re-interpret" what the grade definition means are cheaters and send a poor message to the players. I think 7th and 8th grade players are fine playing together however that is just not the current format. When it changes, let the teams mix. I think we all know of kids who have a classmate that played down for a particular club or clubs. If you are a parent and you try to justify this or "re-class" you are simply breaking the rule so a team can win plain and simple.

Negative. You are enrolled in a grade at school. It doesn't matter how you got there, if the school accepts your enrollment, you are enrolled. When school ends, you have already enrolled for the next year. If you are repeating, when the current school year ends, you may play your next enrolled grade directly after school lets out after that last day. There is no confusion. [/quote

Negative, you are born on a certain day in a certain year. If you play against kids more than a year younger in order to compete you are not very athletic and are pretty pitiful. I agree, there really is no confusion.

Blah blah blah

Of course there is no confusion. Youth sports was always to be played with age requirements, Lacrosse always was until the recent Early Recruiting stupidity. Then we HAD to have grade base due to ER at 9th grade. NCAA took care of that stupidity problem with no longer any ER. Only contact in 11th grade now.

Well apologists ...We no longer have ER..are we going back to age at YOUTH teams and grade at High School teams as it always was before??? Or is there another excuse for the apologists to roll out ??

Sure, just write down your kid's age where it says grade next year at tryouts. We'll take it from there. Thanks

Why don't both of you and everyone else that cares so much about anonymously trolling 12,13 year olds start a new page. Call it what ever you want---- Trolls, Holdback/Cheaters, That kid is too big to play against my Timmy, or maybe even Classless Daddies. Leave this page for those that actually enjoys watching their boy play against the top level teams in the country. That includes the older, bigger ,smaller,faster,stronger kids they play against. Positive preparation for high school level , positive attitude to overcome playing time ,positive attitude for being a good teammate, positive attitude towards working harder when things get tough or unfair. A lot of good lacrosse to watch this weekend and the rest of summer. Teams are set and nothing is changing that. Calling them cheaters and pathetic is sad. Teams work hard and practice hard. There is also a ton of levels for kids to play at. Elite, AA, A,B, C , Rec, if you can't find a good fit your kid than that is your problem. The Elite level is just that -Elite- meaning bigger,smaller,faster,stronger kids. So please for the sake of those you don't give a [lacrosse] about holdback or reclassing and spewing negative crap about 12,13 year olds start a new page.
father of a 12 year old who loves competition against all comers.

Kids flying up from Texas to play on a spring league game? Embarrassing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the players from Texas making all of the practices? If not, they are ringers, guest players or whatever else you want to call them. Great message that sends to the rest of the team. Win at all costs.

I agree 100%! But MM thinks it is okay because they are on the roster all year and come to maybe 3 or 4 practices. My son is done with MM and his craziness!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs beat the Texas team (which beat Team 89+2),

C'mon. You are going to say that a team from Texas is a quality win for Crabs? Crabs also lost to Eclipse who may have been the worst team at the tournament.

Did 89+2's Texas players play for Millon or Texas Mustangs?

There were quite a few "guest players" for T9-1MD at NLF. Some may have come from the new 9-1 Carolina Connon connection as well.

You are incorrect, my son plays on this team and the players were the regular 91 players and 3 players from Texas that have been on the roster all year. They cam up all but one weekend for the HoCo games. No add ons or guest players.

I watched some of your games, good team especially your poles, they are some of the best athletes in this age group. Long Pole Mid is a beast, I was told that he is 6' 210 LBS and runs like a deer. Since you are being honest how old is that kid. No way he is 13. Same with the big Pole of Def, he is a beast but saw him get run over in Semi Finals which shocked everybody.

Thanks! They both are beast and very athletic. The boy you are referring to is only 160 lbs but he looks like a man. They both are 13 and true 2022s. We have no hold backs on our team, but MM definitely looks at size when selecting kids. The oldest kid on the team is actually one of the smallest. Oldest birthday is Sept 2003.

cannot believe these are DADS and or COACHES........everyone should be ashamed

Amen! Couldn't have said it better. Just too many "dads" that use this forum to hide behind their own insecurities and rather bash the rules than talk about the awesome competition week-to-week!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs beat the Texas team (which beat Team 89+2),
Did 89+2's Texas players play for Millon or Texas Mustangs?

There were quite a few "guest players" for T9-1MD at NLF. Some may have come from the new 9-1 Carolina Connon connection as well.

You are incorrect, my son plays on this team and the players were the regular 91 players and 3 players from Texas that have been on the roster all year. They cam up all but one weekend for the HoCo games. No add ons or guest players.

I watched some of your games, good team especially your poles, they are some of the best athletes in this age group. Long Pole Mid is a beast, I was told that he is 6' 210 LBS and runs like a deer. Since you are being honest how old is that kid. No way he is 13. Same with the big Pole of Def, he is a beast but saw him get run over in Semi Finals which shocked everybody.

Thanks! They both are beast and very athletic. The boy you are referring to is only 160 lbs but he looks like a man. They both are 13 and true 2022s. We have no hold backs on our team, but MM definitely looks at size when selecting kids. The oldest kid on the team is actually one of the smallest. Oldest birthday is Sept 2003.

That's BS. There are definitely kids that went to prefirst on that team. Stop lying. I'm not going to name them but everyone knows who they are. People think we are all idiots and that our kids aren't friends with players on other teams. You know there are kids from SP and Gilman that know these kids and know how old they are. Ugh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs beat the Texas team (which beat Team 89+2),
Did 89+2's Texas players play for Millon or Texas Mustangs?

There were quite a few "guest players" for T9-1MD at NLF. Some may have come from the new 9-1 Carolina Connon connection as well.

You are incorrect, my son plays on this team and the players were the regular 91 players and 3 players from Texas that have been on the roster all year. They cam up all but one weekend for the HoCo games. No add ons or guest players.

I watched some of your games, good team especially your poles, they are some of the best athletes in this age group. Long Pole Mid is a beast, I was told that he is 6' 210 LBS and runs like a deer. Since you are being honest how old is that kid. No way he is 13. Same with the big Pole of Def, he is a beast but saw him get run over in Semi Finals which shocked everybody.

Thanks! They both are beast and very athletic. The boy you are referring to is only 160 lbs but he looks like a man. They both are 13 and true 2022s. We have no hold backs on our team, but MM definitely looks at size when selecting kids. The oldest kid on the team is actually one of the smallest. Oldest birthday is Sept 2003.

That's BS. There are definitely kids that went to prefirst on that team. Stop lying. I'm not going to name them but everyone knows who they are. People think we are all idiots and that our kids aren't friends with players on other teams. You know there are kids from SP and Gilman that know these kids and know how old they are. Ugh.

Get over yourself! I have no reason to lie. There are no boys older than Sept 2003 on the team. Going to pre-first is not a hold back dumb [lacrosse]!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kids flying up from Texas to play on a spring league game? Embarrassing.

No different than kids coming from VA or PA. If their parents can afford it, why is it your business?

Why can't people own up to having Holdbacks on their team . We know the teams that have them but they will say we don't have them ...it's funny because Jonny just drove himself to practice .. no he is not a holdback... OWN IT

[quote=Anonymous]Why can't people own up to having Holdbacks on their team . We know the teams that have them but they will say we don't have them ...it's funny because Jonny just drove himself to practice .. no he is not a holdback... OWN IT[/quote

Why can't people just accept the fact that at 13 boys vary greatly in their in development and while some may look like they are 15, 16 or older they are only 13???? If every boy on our team was born after September 1, 2003, then we have no hold backs!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Why can't people own up to having Holdbacks on their team . We know the teams that have them but they will say we don't have them ...it's funny because Jonny just drove himself to practice .. no he is not a holdback... OWN IT[/quote

Why can't people just accept the fact that at 13 boys vary greatly in their in development and while some may look like they are 15, 16 or older they are only 13???? If every boy on our team was born after September 1, 2003, then we have no hold backs!!!!

Dude - my friend's son plays on 2022 9D1 and definitely has a pre-Sept 2003 birthday... either you don't know or you do know but like to pontificate....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs beat the Texas team (which beat Team 89+2),

You are incorrect, my son plays on this team and the players were the regular 91 players and 3 players from Texas that have been on the roster all year. They cam up all but one weekend for the HoCo games. No add ons or guest players.

I watched some of your games, good team especially your poles, they are some of the best athletes in this age group. Long Pole Mid is a beast, I was told that he is 6' 210 LBS and runs like a deer. Since you are being honest how old is that kid. No way he is 13. Same with the big Pole of Def, he is a beast but saw him get run over in Semi Finals which shocked everybody.

Thanks! They both are beast and very athletic. The boy you are referring to is only 160 lbs but he looks like a man. They both are 13 and true 2022s. We have no hold backs on our team, but MM definitely looks at size when selecting kids. The oldest kid on the team is actually one of the smallest. Oldest birthday is Sept 2003.

That's BS. There are definitely kids that went to prefirst on that team. Stop lying. I'm not going to name them but everyone knows who they are. People think we are all idiots and that our kids aren't friends with players on other teams. You know there are kids from SP and Gilman that know these kids and know how old they are. Ugh.

Get over yourself! I have no reason to lie. There are no boys older than Sept 2003 on the team. Going to pre-first is not a hold back dumb [lacrosse]!

Well, if you aren't lying, then you are just ignorant. Both kids that came from Crabs were born before Sept 2003. There are several others

It can't be accepted because it is always from the same states and usually from the same teams that the kids are bigger. Long Island kids are always the smallest because they don't cheat. In sports that are age based like Hockey, baseball and Soccer the Long Island Kids are the same size or bigger than the kids from these same states where the kids are so big in lacrosse. One or two big kids is normal but not most of the kids on these teams.I for one would rather have our kids play the older out of state kids and have a closer game. One last reason why it can't be accepted is when these kids go on to play college and birth dates are published on some teams it is always kids from the same States and Canada that are very old freshmen. That can't be denied.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Why can't people own up to having Holdbacks on their team . We know the teams that have them but they will say we don't have them ...it's funny because Jonny just drove himself to practice .. no he is not a holdback... OWN IT[/quote

Why can't people just accept the fact that at 13 boys vary greatly in their in development and while some may look like they are 15, 16 or older they are only 13???? If every boy on our team was born after September 1, 2003, then we have no hold backs!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It can't be accepted because it is always from the same states and usually from the same teams that the kids are bigger. Long Island kids are always the smallest because they don't cheat. In sports that are age based like Hockey, baseball and Soccer the Long Island Kids are the same size or bigger than the kids from these same states where the kids are so big in lacrosse. One or two big kids is normal but not most of the kids on these teams.I for one would rather have our kids play the older out of state kids and have a closer game. One last reason why it can't be accepted is when these kids go on to play college and birth dates are published on some teams it is always kids from the same States and Canada that are very old freshmen. That can't be denied.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Why can't people own up to having Holdbacks on their team . We know the teams that have them but they will say we don't have them ...it's funny because Jonny just drove himself to practice .. no he is not a holdback... OWN IT[/quote

Why can't people just accept the fact that at 13 boys vary greatly in their in development and while some may look like they are 15, 16 or older they are only 13???? If every boy on our team was born after September 1, 2003, then we have no hold backs!!!!

Sorry, must have missed the part about holdbacks on the registration form. Oh, there wasn't a section for that? Oh, it asked you to check off grade in school. Oh, got it, so what is the question again? Sounds like your question is for the league, not kids and parents. Hey parents, drop off and pick up your kids, and let us big girls and boys worry about the lacrosse stuff. Hop back in the car, pull out the iphone, and go to a liberal page to find some new talking points.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Get over yourself! I have no reason to lie. There are no boys older than Sept 2003 on the team. Going to pre-first is not a hold back dumb [lacrosse]!

You are the one that needs to be educated. But I wont call you a dumb a**. Here is how it works (2 boys 1 girl MIAA school)

You go to kindergarten with your little buddies . End of school year and time for you and your buddies to go to First grade. Nope all boys ( generally) and some girls born in summer are not going to First grade, they are headed to PREFIRST. Plus some other children are not going either ( from recommendation of school or parents saying I dont want him going to first grade) . This group is also going to PREFIRST .

So you and some of your buddies are ready and move on up to 1st grade like anywhere else in country... And some off your buddies are HELD BACK to attend PREFIRST. Nothing wrong with it but it is being held back from going to 1st grade.

Frankly the children attending Prefirst who go on to 1st grade are ahead of kids going from Kindergarten straight to 1st. They have to teach them something in PREFIRST.

Why don't both of you and everyone else that cares so much about anonymously trolling 12,13 year olds start a new page. Call it what ever you want---- Trolls, Holdback/Cheaters, That kid is too big to play against my Timmy, or maybe even Classless Daddies. Leave this page for those that actually enjoys watching their boy play against the top level teams in the country. That includes the older, bigger ,smaller,faster,stronger kids they play against. Positive preparation for high school level , positive attitude to overcome playing time ,positive attitude for being a good teammate, positive attitude towards working harder when things get tough or unfair. A lot of good lacrosse to watch this weekend and the rest of summer. Teams are set and nothing is changing that. Calling them cheaters and pathetic is sad. Teams work hard and practice hard. There is also a ton of levels for kids to play at. Elite, AA, A,B, C , Rec, if you can't find a good fit your kid than that is your problem. The Elite level is just that -Elite- meaning bigger,smaller,faster,stronger kids. So please for the sake of those you don't give a [lacrosse] about holdback or reclassing and spewing negative crap about 12,13 year olds start a new page.
father of a 12 year old who loves competition against all comers. [/quote]

Couldn't agree more! This site is unreal with Parents doing everything they can to justify their kid losing a lacrosse game. I guess they just ignore the fat that every team in the HOCO league were built the exact same! Or that the NLF teams from allover the country were built the exact same way. The competition was great . The negative sore losers need to find another sport to play. My son is also 12 and plays basketball and football with kids a year or almost 2 older . He is also several months older than some of his teammates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don't both of you and everyone else that cares so much about anonymously trolling 12,13 year olds start a new page. Call it what ever you want---- Trolls, Holdback/Cheaters, That kid is too big to play against my Timmy, or maybe even Classless Daddies. Leave this page for those that actually enjoys watching their boy play against the top level teams in the country. That includes the older, bigger ,smaller,faster,stronger kids they play against. Positive preparation for high school level , positive attitude to overcome playing time ,positive attitude for being a good teammate, positive attitude towards working harder when things get tough or unfair. A lot of good lacrosse to watch this weekend and the rest of summer. Teams are set and nothing is changing that. Calling them cheaters and pathetic is sad. Teams work hard and practice hard. There is also a ton of levels for kids to play at. Elite, AA, A,B, C , Rec, if you can't find a good fit your kid than that is your problem. The Elite level is just that -Elite- meaning bigger,smaller,faster,stronger kids. So please for the sake of those you don't give a [lacrosse] about holdback or reclassing and spewing negative crap about 12,13 year olds start a new page.
father of a 12 year old who loves competition against all comers.

Couldn't agree more! This site is unreal with Parents doing everything they can to justify their kid losing a lacrosse game. I guess they just ignore the fat that every team in the HOCO league were built the exact same! Or that the NLF teams from allover the country were built the exact same way. The competition was great . The negative sore losers need to find another sport to play. My son is also 12 and plays basketball and football with kids a year or almost 2 older . He is also several months older than some of his teammates. [/quote]

People are within the rules of today which are only a few years in the making. They went that way for supposedly ER at 9th grade. No more ER at 9th grade. Most think that the rules should be changed back to age for YOUTH lacrosse as it was for the last 40 years.

FCA Blue doing just 2 Aloha tournaments and Philly Showdown?

First timer on here, but let's be real. Crabs kids, smallest kids on team, got no burn, Texas kids were a product of MM camps from years ago. Get over yourselves, be real with your kids talent and get some lives. And the Deer #2 is a animal, plus a great 13 yr kid.

Now that the Carolina Cannons are part of the 91 franchise, which NC kids will be taking playing time from the 9d1MD kids paying full tuition and showing up to practices?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the Carolina Cannons are part of the 91 franchise, which NC kids will be taking playing time from the 9d1MD kids paying full tuition and showing up to practices?

I am sure there will be at least one or two. Especially since MM is good friends with the Coach and his son played in a tournament last summer with 91. Total BS!

Madlax knocked out by Mesa 8-6. Diamondbacks knocked out by Texas mustangs 9-3. Hawks and 9-1MD still undefeated at Big 4 HHH tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax knocked out by Mesa 8-6. Diamondbacks knocked out by Texas mustangs 9-3. Hawks and 9-1MD still undefeated at Big 4 HHH tournament.

HAHAHA DiamondBAGS!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax knocked out by Mesa 8-6. Diamondbacks knocked out by Texas mustangs 9-3. Hawks and 9-1MD still undefeated at Big 4 HHH tournament.

HAHAHA DiamondBAGS!!!

Ummm FALSE. Obviously you are not at the tournament. Stop trolling and get your facts straight. Madlax won that game. API and TX team both 2-1. Came down to a difference of 2 GA for seeding. API not second if TX loses tomorrow morning (unlikely but still a fact) Go back to your B tournament, win your trophy (maybe) and keep hiding from competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax knocked out by Mesa 8-6. Diamondbacks knocked out by Texas mustangs 9-3. Hawks and 9-1MD still undefeated at Big 4 HHH tournament.

HAHAHA DiamondBAGS!!!

Crabs knocked out by Hawks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax knocked out by Mesa 8-6. Diamondbacks knocked out by Texas mustangs 9-3. Hawks and 9-1MD still undefeated at Big 4 HHH tournament.

Get your facts right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax knocked out by Mesa 8-6. Diamondbacks knocked out by Texas mustangs 9-3. Hawks and 9-1MD still undefeated at Big 4 HHH tournament.

Actually Madlax beat Mesa. Good hard game, but ML won 8-6. Sorry to disappoint you.

Watched Dbacks today. I will be worried if we play them. Running up and down on them, scoring at will, could make our guys tired for next game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watched Dbacks today. I will be worried if we play them. Running up and down on them, scoring at will, could make our guys tired for next game

Why are you talking trash on kids???

I didn't know you played lacrosse ...why is it that everyone wants to talk trash about the Diamondbacks you scared ..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didn't know you played lacrosse ...why is it that everyone wants to talk trash about the Diamondbacks you scared ..

Coach is not a very nice guy. Kids are fine.

Hawks only MD team in Big 4HHH playoffs. 9-1 MD knocked out by Big 4HHH. Madlax knocked out by Edge. Mustangs the 4th team in playoffs.

Madlax and API second place in pool play with Crabs third in pool play. None making the playoff cut. HOCO league no longer best in nation. Hawks have to go elsewhere for consistent competition on their level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax and API second place in pool play with Crabs third in pool play. None making the playoff cut. HOCO league no longer best in nation. Hawks have to go elsewhere for consistent competition on their level.

None were in top half of HoCo. Go elsewhere with your comments.

Hawks is going to be team to beat at grade base tournaments . I'm a API dad and the Hawks look very strong .congrats on your win

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax and API second place in pool play with Crabs third in pool play. None making the playoff cut. HOCO league no longer best in nation. Hawks have to go elsewhere for consistent competition on their level.

None were in top half of HoCo. Go elsewhere with your comments.

Forgot MD91 who were in top half and also knocked out and lost to Madlax after that. So you were saying?

Saw the Hawks today. Wasn't ready to believe the hype, but they were legit. Definitely the best I've seen this season for this grade level. The starting goalie was very legit. Liked his intensity and quick feet in goal. #22 at attack seemed to be older and bigger than most kids but dude had game. #4 seemed age appropriate (but you're never really sure) and his game was nice. He was a little cocky but to his credit, he backed it up against tough prime time and Edge defenses. Btw, those Edge defenders and #27 were massive and strong. To beat these guys, the better teams will need to match their intensity and minimize errors.

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

False. Aug 2003 Birthday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax and API second place in pool play with Crabs third in pool play. None making the playoff cut. HOCO league no longer best in nation. Hawks have to go elsewhere for consistent competition on their level.

None were in top half of HoCo. Go elsewhere with your comments.

All HOco playoff teams present except for Bethesda(#2 in hoco) and RoughRider(#3). You would expect a top tournament of this caliber to bring in the top teams from every state who could test anyone and they didn't disappoint. Great job Big 4HHH.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

Wrong

in Pa he would be a hold back. 9/1 is the cut off thought it was the same in MD.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

False. Aug 2003 Birthday.

Aug 2003 birthday should be a 2021. My son is Aug 2005 and he is a 2023.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

False. Aug 2003 Birthday.

Aug 2003 birthday should be a 2021. My son is Aug 2005 and he is a 2023.

.....and my son is October 2005 and is 2023(Should be 202. Families and situations are all different.

I don't know that kid or family so who am I to speak on their decision. If you are getting beat by a kid born a month early, tell your kid and team to hit that wall!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watched Dbacks today. I will be worried if we play them. Running up and down on them, scoring at will, could make our guys tired for next game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didn't know you played lacrosse ...why is it that everyone wants to talk trash about the Diamondbacks you scared ..

Coach is not a very nice guy. Kids are fine.

D-backs are a good team but their fortunes rest with their 2 middies (#9 and #27). They are definitely beatable. I will say they were in probably the most competitive, most balanced pool this weekend with the Mustangs (TX) and BBL (NJ). D-backs beat BBL 9-6, Mustangs beat D-backs 9-3, and BBL beat Mustangs 7-6. Mustangs made it out of pool play on goal differential between the 3 teams. If you can keep a lid on the D-backs 2 middies and figure out their zone defense, they are a team you can take down. That said, still a good team and will battle you.

Depends on the counties school system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

False. Aug 2003 Birthday.

Aug 2003 birthday should be a 2021. My son is Aug 2005 and he is a 2023.

.....and my son is October 2005 and is 2023(Should be 202. Families and situations are all different.

I don't know that kid or family so who am I to speak on their decision. If you are getting beat by a kid born a month early, tell your kid and team to hit that wall!!!!

Agree. Doesn't turn 14 until after the summer tournaments are over.

Just an excuse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

False. Aug 2003 Birthday.

Aug 2003 birthday should be a 2021. My son is Aug 2005 and he is a 2023.

.....and my son is October 2005 and is 2023(Should be 202. Families and situations are all different.

I don't know that kid or family so who am I to speak on their decision. If you are getting beat by a kid born a month early, tell your kid and team to hit that wall!!!!

Agree. Doesn't turn 14 until after the summer tournaments are over.

Just an excuse

Doesnt matter what reasons are.., He started school late, Heldback, prefirst, parents thought it was good for him,etc,etc...

He will always be older than the majority of 2022 players except other heldback/started late players. The majority of players born in Aug 2003 play 2021 except the minority of holdback/started late players.

No excuse , but these type of players get an advantage others dont.

I personally think it should be age guidelines for YOUTH , with anyone born May to Aug prior to Sept 1 USL guidelines wanting to play down allowed to. This should take care of all the heldback players and allow them to play with their grade. Then if you want to play down go for it. But at least anyone that wants to play down can...not just a select few of players that are heldback.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

False. Aug 2003 Birthday.

Aug 2003 birthday should be a 2021. My son is Aug 2005 and he is a 2023.

.....and my son is October 2005 and is 2023(Should be 202. Families and situations are all different.

I don't know that kid or family so who am I to speak on their decision. If you are getting beat by a kid born a month early, tell your kid and team to hit that wall!!!!

Agree. Doesn't turn 14 until after the summer tournaments are over.

Just an excuse

Doesnt matter what reasons are.., He started school late, Heldback, prefirst, parents thought it was good for him,etc,etc...

He will always be older than the majority of 2022 players except other heldback/started late players. The majority of players born in Aug 2003 play 2021 except the minority of holdback/started late players.

No excuse , but these type of players get an advantage others dont.

I personally think it should be age guidelines for YOUTH , with anyone born May to Aug prior to Sept 1 USL guidelines wanting to play down allowed to. This should take care of all the heldback players and allow them to play with their grade. Then if you want to play down go for it. But at least anyone that wants to play down can...not just a select few of players that are heldback.

Watching this kid play (#4), I suspect he would be good as a 2021. Tough kid played with a lot of spunk. As for his size, my son is a 2022 who turned 13 3 months ago. This kid wasn't much bigger than my kid. So size wasn't necessarily benefitting him. Perhaps a wiser player that age but no doubting his will to compete.

Both Canadian teams will be very good at the WSYL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both Canadian teams will be very good at the WSYL.

Are they allowed to be older, because the school age is different in Canada?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both Canadian teams will be very good at the WSYL.

Are they allowed to be older, because the school age is different in Canada?

I think they are older because the days are longer in Canada. The sun stays out longer the farther north you go.

Good luck you hosers!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both Canadian teams will be very good at the WSYL.

Are they allowed to be older, because the school age is different in Canada?

I think they are older because the days are longer in Canada. The sun stays out longer the farther north you go.

Canadians are allowed to play down one complete year as Edge has done in past. They figure most will be doing a PG year so why not play at the earlier grade now.

It is ..he is a holdback

WSYL schedules out. https://goo.gl/ewgzEy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WSYL schedules out. https://goo.gl/ewgzEy

All Long Island final four?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

Wrong

You sound like Trump. He is half wrong. The kid is a holdback. Turning 14 in August means he should be a 2021 in MD. Hence he is a holdback.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

Wrong

You sound like Trump. He is half wrong. The kid is a holdback. Turning 14 in August means he should be a 2021 in MD. Hence he is a holdback.

Your life will be much happier if you stop obsessing over the age of a 14 year old boy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

So what, even if he is a "holdback" or 14......he has a 2017 7th grade report card so its not cheating, its just you wishing your kid was a better athlete....

All "holdback" haters should either:
- Read the rules and realize there is no issue, and not cheating
- Hold your kid back so your kid can play at a competitive level
- or just SHUT UP

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

So what, even if he is a "holdback" or 14......he has a 2017 7th grade report card so its not cheating, its just you wishing your kid was a better athlete....

All "holdback" haters should either:
- Read the rules and realize there is no issue, and not cheating
- Hold your kid back so your kid can play at a competitive level
- or just SHUT UP

Or I guess do what parents of hold backs do:
-Reward your child for not doing well in school
-Tell the child it's okay that they're being held back cause they aren't a good enough athlete to compete with kids their
own age
-Teach them the importance of not being honest or cheating their way through life
-Or spend the money on getting your child a TUTOR

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

So what, even if he is a "holdback" or 14......he has a 2017 7th grade report card so its not cheating, its just you wishing your kid was a better athlete....

All "holdback" haters should either:
- Read the rules and realize there is no issue, and not cheating
- Hold your kid back so your kid can play at a competitive level
- or just SHUT UP

That's just brilliant!!! Guess the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree

My kid is 12 and plays at this competitive 2022 AA level. Plus I didn't have to hold him back to do it. A better athlete would play up not down

Right off of the crab feast website:

2021 - If your son was in the 9th grade this spring 2017 and is repeating/reclassifying for 9th grade fall 2017, he is NOT eligible to play 2021 division.

I guess there are some rules for hold backs. What a joke.d

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

So what, even if he is a "holdback" or 14......he has a 2017 7th grade report card so its not cheating, its just you wishing your kid was a better athlete....

All "holdback" haters should either:
- Read the rules and realize there is no issue, and not cheating
- Hold your kid back so your kid can play at a competitive level
- or just SHUT UP

Wait, so I wish my son who plays very competitively on age and sometimes up was as good athletically as the 14 ( or almost 14) year old who plays against 12 year olds? If I had to have my 13 yr old play against 12 yr olds to look good I would definitely not be bragging about his athleticism. That has got to be the funniest excuse yet. Yes, we are all wishing our kids sucked so bad they had to play younger kids to look good athletically. You are the best!!

Cool

My oldest son is an August birthday who we decided was not ready to start Kindergarten 8 days after he turned 5, we also didn't think showing up on a college campus a week or so after turning 18 would be in HIS best interest. We made that decision with zero thought about him gaining an advantage in youth sports. In fact when that decision was made and until Club lacrosse changed years later he always played with the Class of 2020 where his BIRTHDATE dictated he play in ALL sports. Emotionally, socially, and academically it was the correct decision for our son, but he is technically a holdback. For much of his youth career he actually paid the price being the youngest kid on his teams with none of his friends from school on his teams.

My second oldest, has a March birthday, is a true class of 2022 player, but has been playing 2021 since he was in 3rd grade and continues to play 2021 this year. Using him as an example, he is a strong player in 2021, would be a very good player in 2022 with his classmates, he might look like an All American if he stepped into a 2023 game.

The point is this, for all the debate about holdbacks, I'm not sure the current class of 2021 or 2022 parent's foresaw the change in rules and leagues that allowed for grade based lacrosse. I hope it's a stretch to say anyone looked at their son or daughter at 5 in the year 2007 or 2008 and thought, I'm going to have them repeat a grade so they can gain an advantage because they may go to grade based club lacrosse in 2014.

Clearly kids repeating 7th or 8th grade fall under a different microscope, but let's not forget we all as Parent's are or should be making decisions that are in that child's best interest. Furthermore, while this is a great sport, at the collegiate level being a recruited player often amounts to little more then admissions preference and a slight reduction in tuition and costs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

So what, even if he is a "holdback" or 14......he has a 2017 7th grade report card so its not cheating, its just you wishing your kid was a better athlete....

All "holdback" haters should either:
- Read the rules and realize there is no issue, and not cheating
- Hold your kid back so your kid can play at a competitive level
- or just SHUT UP

Or I guess do what parents of hold backs do:
-Reward your child for not doing well in school
-Tell the child it's okay that they're being held back cause they aren't a good enough athlete to compete with kids their
own age
-Teach them the importance of not being honest or cheating their way through life
-Or spend the money on getting your child a TUTOR

FYI - most of the holdbacks, as you call them, play Varsity, or start on very good JV teams, as they enter High School as Freshman. There's no birth-year-buddy system in life, stand to reason we are teaching the kids to pair by skill within a reasonable range of age now. What's next, two groups per birth year, because 11 month'ers are rigging the system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

So what, even if he is a "holdback" or 14......he has a 2017 7th grade report card so its not cheating, its just you wishing your kid was a better athlete....

All "holdback" haters should either:
- Read the rules and realize there is no issue, and not cheating
- Hold your kid back so your kid can play at a competitive level
- or just SHUT UP

Or I guess do what parents of hold backs do:
-Reward your child for not doing well in school
-Tell the child it's okay that they're being held back cause they aren't a good enough athlete to compete with kids their
own age
-Teach them the importance of not being honest or cheating their way through life
-Or spend the money on getting your child a TUTOR

FYI - most of the holdbacks, as you call them, play Varsity, or start on very good JV teams, as they enter High School as Freshman. There's no birth-year-buddy system in life, stand to reason we are teaching the kids to pair by skill within a reasonable range of age now. What's next, two groups per birth year, because 11 month'ers are rigging the system.

Your exaggerating to make your point but it doesn't really have the affect your looking for. Also, using high school to make your point also doesn't work because of this small thing called puberty. But that was a good try at logic!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

Wrong

You sound like Trump. He is half wrong. The kid is a holdback. Turning 14 in August means he should be a 2021 in MD. Hence he is a holdback.

Leaker, he's a leaker!

What would your kid accomplish today if we had a strict birth year bracket system? Would he be better, or seem better? Who would really win, the kid, or the helicopter parent? Get to cheer a little louder, and little longer while they are little kids, then HS hits, and poof, they either have it or they don't. Now, how to you stack the deck in your advantage to get better, other than great coaching? A) Play against the best kids possible as a youth? or B) make sure some of the best kids have to go away because mommy and daddy don't like the bracket system?
Signed,
Non-holdback parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My oldest son is an August birthday who we decided was not ready to start Kindergarten 8 days after he turned 5, we also didn't think showing up on a college campus a week or so after turning 18 would be in HIS best interest. We made that decision with zero thought about him gaining an advantage in youth sports. In fact when that decision was made and until Club lacrosse changed years later he always played with the Class of 2020 where his BIRTHDATE dictated he play in ALL sports. Emotionally, socially, and academically it was the correct decision for our son, but he is technically a holdback. For much of his youth career he actually paid the price being the youngest kid on his teams with none of his friends from school on his teams.

My second oldest, has a March birthday, is a true class of 2022 player, but has been playing 2021 since he was in 3rd grade and continues to play 2021 this year. Using him as an example, he is a strong player in 2021, would be a very good player in 2022 with his classmates, he might look like an All American if he stepped into a 2023 game.

The point is this, for all the debate about holdbacks, I'm not sure the current class of 2021 or 2022 parent's foresaw the change in rules and leagues that allowed for grade based lacrosse. I hope it's a stretch to say anyone looked at their son or daughter at 5 in the year 2007 or 2008 and thought, I'm going to have them repeat a grade so they can gain an advantage because they may go to grade based club lacrosse in 2014.

Clearly kids repeating 7th or 8th grade fall under a different microscope, but let's not forget we all as Parent's are or should be making decisions that are in that child's best interest. Furthermore, while this is a great sport, at the collegiate level being a recruited player often amounts to little more then admissions preference and a slight reduction in tuition and costs.

You have a rational reason for your Aug son. I along with hopefully everyone has no problem with whatever decision you make for your son.

Yes there are some that do make their decision to hold their child back in prefirst for sports. I know of several. But I would suspect for the majority it is what is best for their child. But once again..who really cares what you do with your child. Hold him back ten times if you think that is right. It is your responsibility.

The issue most have is that your August child gets an advantage other same EXACT birthday children dont receive in YOUTH sports. Youth sports is not for carving out and letting select children get an advantage others dont.

Youth sports is about some resemblance of fair play. Age based seems to be the best solution and generally stops any shenanigans that parents and Club do when basing it on other parameters ( grade) . While your son if played 2021 would generally always be in top 5% of oldest kids playing due to birthday only a few days from cutoff, there would be some grade based holdbacks who are born 6 months to 10 months from cutoff , These kids are older by 6-10 months minimum to over 18 -22 months older than some kids?? . And that advantage is for the entire time they are in YOUTH sports?? Doesnt seem right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Number 4 is a holdback he is 14 .

Wrong

You sound like Trump. He is half wrong. The kid is a holdback. Turning 14 in August means he should be a 2021 in MD. Hence he is a holdback.

Yeah! Hence! Quid pro quo MFer!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My oldest son is an August birthday who we decided was not ready to start Kindergarten 8 days after he turned 5, we also didn't think showing up on a college campus a week or so after turning 18 would be in HIS best interest. We made that decision with zero thought about him gaining an advantage in youth sports. In fact when that decision was made and until Club lacrosse changed years later he always played with the Class of 2020 where his BIRTHDATE dictated he play in ALL sports. Emotionally, socially, and academically it was the correct decision for our son, but he is technically a holdback. For much of his youth career he actually paid the price being the youngest kid on his teams with none of his friends from school on his teams.

My second oldest, has a March birthday, is a true class of 2022 player, but has been playing 2021 since he was in 3rd grade and continues to play 2021 this year. Using him as an example, he is a strong player in 2021, would be a very good player in 2022 with his classmates, he might look like an All American if he stepped into a 2023 game.

The point is this, for all the debate about holdbacks, I'm not sure the current class of 2021 or 2022 parent's foresaw the change in rules and leagues that allowed for grade based lacrosse. I hope it's a stretch to say anyone looked at their son or daughter at 5 in the year 2007 or 2008 and thought, I'm going to have them repeat a grade so they can gain an advantage because they may go to grade based club lacrosse in 2014.

Clearly kids repeating 7th or 8th grade fall under a different microscope, but let's not forget we all as Parent's are or should be making decisions that are in that child's best interest. Furthermore, while this is a great sport, at the collegiate level being a recruited player often amounts to little more then admissions preference and a slight reduction in tuition and costs.

You have a rational reason for your Aug son. I along with hopefully everyone has no problem with whatever decision you make for your son.

Yes there are some that do make their decision to hold their child back in prefirst for sports. I know of several. But I would suspect for the majority it is what is best for their child. But once again..who really cares what you do with your child. Hold him back ten times if you think that is right. It is your responsibility.

The issue most have is that your August child gets an advantage other same EXACT birthday children dont receive in YOUTH sports. Youth sports is not for carving out and letting select children get an advantage others dont.

Youth sports is about some resemblance of fair play. Age based seems to be the best solution and generally stops any shenanigans that parents and Club do when basing it on other parameters ( grade) . While your son if played 2021 would generally always be in top 5% of oldest kids playing due to birthday only a few days from cutoff, there would be some grade based holdbacks who are born 6 months to 10 months from cutoff , These kids are older by 6-10 months minimum to over 18 -22 months older than some kids?? . And that advantage is for the entire time they are in YOUTH sports?? Doesnt seem right.

exactly right

At the Millon Championship (http://youthlaxchampionship.com/index.html), there are no Philly area teams. Reason?

Everyone who is voicing their opinion on here knows the team their son plays on has a holdback. It might be 1, it might be 3 or 4. Player might miss cut off date by 1 day. That is the law of MD lacrosse.Remember the WSYL also changed the rules after teams were set.Which is why every team has a holdback.Lets stop with the hypocrisy and calling young boys cheaters. Calling out a pacific player on a team is absolutely crossing the line . People on here acting like someone else and commenting on kids is also crossing the line. Everyone does know that 1 person can start a quote and comment about a that same quote like he is someone else just to start something.Then all the idiot haters just jump in and act like fools.If you state something about a player at least have the courage to post your name behind it.That way his family can confront you the next time you are standing next to them on the sidelines.

If only there were a league that was age based for all those that don't like grade based. Oh wait, every county in MD has one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My oldest son is an August birthday who we decided was not ready to start Kindergarten 8 days after he turned 5, we also didn't think showing up on a college campus a week or so after turning 18 would be in HIS best interest. We made that decision with zero thought about him gaining an advantage in youth sports. In fact when that decision was made and until Club lacrosse changed years later he always played with the Class of 2020 where his BIRTHDATE dictated he play in ALL sports. Emotionally, socially, and academically it was the correct decision for our son, but he is technically a holdback. For much of his youth career he actually paid the price being the youngest kid on his teams with none of his friends from school on his teams.

My second oldest, has a March birthday, is a true class of 2022 player, but has been playing 2021 since he was in 3rd grade and continues to play 2021 this year. Using him as an example, he is a strong player in 2021, would be a very good player in 2022 with his classmates, he might look like an All American if he stepped into a 2023 game.

The point is this, for all the debate about holdbacks, I'm not sure the current class of 2021 or 2022 parent's foresaw the change in rules and leagues that allowed for grade based lacrosse. I hope it's a stretch to say anyone looked at their son or daughter at 5 in the year 2007 or 2008 and thought, I'm going to have them repeat a grade so they can gain an advantage because they may go to grade based club lacrosse in 2014.

Clearly kids repeating 7th or 8th grade fall under a different microscope, but let's not forget we all as Parent's are or should be making decisions that are in that child's best interest. Furthermore, while this is a great sport, at the collegiate level being a recruited player often amounts to little more then admissions preference and a slight reduction in tuition and costs.

You have a rational reason for your Aug son. I along with hopefully everyone has no problem with whatever decision you make for your son.

Yes there are some that do make their decision to hold their child back in prefirst for sports. I know of several. But I would suspect for the majority it is what is best for their child. But once again..who really cares what you do with your child. Hold him back ten times if you think that is right. It is your responsibility.

The issue most have is that your August child gets an advantage other same EXACT birthday children dont receive in YOUTH sports. Youth sports is not for carving out and letting select children get an advantage others dont.

Youth sports is about some resemblance of fair play. Age based seems to be the best solution and generally stops any shenanigans that parents and Club do when basing it on other parameters ( grade) . While your son if played 2021 would generally always be in top 5% of oldest kids playing due to birthday only a few days from cutoff, there would be some grade based holdbacks who are born 6 months to 10 months from cutoff , These kids are older by 6-10 months minimum to over 18 -22 months older than some kids?? . And that advantage is for the entire time they are in YOUTH sports?? Doesnt seem right.

To be clear, in 2 out of 3 sports my 2021 Holdback participated in he was the youngest kid on his team EVERY year of youth sports. In Lacrosse he was the youngest on his team every other year and middle of the pack the other years coming up through rec. He gained an advantage, by days, not months for the past two season of club lacrosse because of how the league and tournaments began to structure it. He did not play Club until Fall of 2015. To be certain he gained no advantage for the vast majority of his youth sports career because he was in rec programs with strict Birthdate requirements. We never complained, he never complained, we never cheated, we play by the rules. We didn't change the club lacrosse rules, even 3 years ago most tournaments had U13 and U11 divisions, now they are virtually ALL grade based.

And my 2021 son who played 2020 most of his career is not an elite level player, no sideline fan would ever pick him out as a holdback. He is also headed to a public High School in the Fall, where if he is lucky he may play varsity as a Junior and may see the field as a Senior.

My post above was actually anti hold backs, my 2022 aged son plays 2021. If we held him back he would look like an All American, but he wouldn't get anything out of it either. I do think families shouldn't be crucified for making decisions way back in 2007, well before the landscape changed in this ONE sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My oldest son is an August birthday who we decided was not ready to start Kindergarten 8 days after he turned 5, we also didn't think showing up on a college campus a week or so after turning 18 would be in HIS best interest. We made that decision with zero thought about him gaining an advantage in youth sports. In fact when that decision was made and until Club lacrosse changed years later he always played with the Class of 2020 where his BIRTHDATE dictated he play in ALL sports. Emotionally, socially, and academically it was the correct decision for our son, but he is technically a holdback. For much of his youth career he actually paid the price being the youngest kid on his teams with none of his friends from school on his teams.

My second oldest, has a March birthday, is a true class of 2022 player, but has been playing 2021 since he was in 3rd grade and continues to play 2021 this year. Using him as an example, he is a strong player in 2021, would be a very good player in 2022 with his classmates, he might look like an All American if he stepped into a 2023 game.

The point is this, for all the debate about holdbacks, I'm not sure the current class of 2021 or 2022 parent's foresaw the change in rules and leagues that allowed for grade based lacrosse. I hope it's a stretch to say anyone looked at their son or daughter at 5 in the year 2007 or 2008 and thought, I'm going to have them repeat a grade so they can gain an advantage because they may go to grade based club lacrosse in 2014.

Clearly kids repeating 7th or 8th grade fall under a different microscope, but let's not forget we all as Parent's are or should be making decisions that are in that child's best interest. Furthermore, while this is a great sport, at the collegiate level being a recruited player often amounts to little more then admissions preference and a slight reduction in tuition and costs.

You have a rational reason for your Aug son. I along with hopefully everyone has no problem with whatever decision you make for your son.

Yes there are some that do make their decision to hold their child back in prefirst for sports. I know of several. But I would suspect for the majority it is what is best for their child. But once again..who really cares what you do with your child. Hold him back ten times if you think that is right. It is your responsibility.

The issue most have is that your August child gets an advantage other same EXACT birthday children dont receive in YOUTH sports. Youth sports is not for carving out and letting select children get an advantage others dont.

Youth sports is about some resemblance of fair play. Age based seems to be the best solution and generally stops any shenanigans that parents and Club do when basing it on other parameters ( grade) . While your son if played 2021 would generally always be in top 5% of oldest kids playing due to birthday only a few days from cutoff, there would be some grade based holdbacks who are born 6 months to 10 months from cutoff , These kids are older by 6-10 months minimum to over 18 -22 months older than some kids?? . And that advantage is for the entire time they are in YOUTH sports?? Doesnt seem right.

To be clear, in 2 out of 3 sports my 2021 Holdback participated in he was the youngest kid on his team EVERY year of youth sports. In Lacrosse he was the youngest on his team every other year and middle of the pack the other years coming up through rec. He gained an advantage, by days, not months for the past two season of club lacrosse because of how the league and tournaments began to structure it. He did not play Club until Fall of 2015. To be certain he gained no advantage for the vast majority of his youth sports career because he was in rec programs with strict Birthdate requirements. We never complained, he never complained, we never cheated, we play by the rules. We didn't change the club lacrosse rules, even 3 years ago most tournaments had U13 and U11 divisions, now they are virtually ALL grade based.

And my 2021 son who played 2020 most of his career is not an elite level player, no sideline fan would ever pick him out as a holdback. He is also headed to a public High School in the Fall, where if he is lucky he may play varsity as a Junior and may see the field as a Senior.

My post above was actually anti hold backs, my 2022 aged son plays 2021. If we held him back he would look like an All American, but he wouldn't get anything out of it either. I do think families shouldn't be crucified for making decisions way back in 2007, well before the landscape changed in this ONE sport.

You are obviously a reasonable person and I understand your personal reasons for your decision but unluckily the school system is being manipulated to create a situation that is not safe for youth sports. And I do think, because I know some of them, that people make decisions early for athletic reasons as well as academic. It does not sound like your older boy is a safety issue but in many cases it is a problem and the only solution is to go to an age based system.

Make youth lacrosse age based across the board per USL recommendations and sad scheme of reclassing your kid to look like Paul Rabil will go away. Club coaches who make their money off selling the dream of a college scholarship are the last bastions of keeping this scheme alive.

Predictions for this weekend:
T9-1MD takes Capital Classic
Rough Riders take Hilgy's MD Lax Tourney

I've held my son back for two years. Suck it

He is the best player on the field at all of tournaments and I think it's great.

For you or him?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend:
T9-1MD takes Capital Classic
Rough Riders take Hilgy's MD Lax Tourney

Who is winning bay bridge brawl?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've held my son back for two years. Suck it

He is the best player on the field at all of tournaments and I think it's great.

I had my boy do a prefirst ( 1 ) , held him back in 4th ( 2 ) ...reclassed in 8th ( 3 )... plus I intend to do a PG year so am playing him one grade down now ( 4 ) , well its only fair as he wont go straight to college after HS....

Your boy doesnt stand a chance against my boy of 4 years heldback !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've held my son back for two years. Suck it

He is the best player on the field at all of tournaments and I think it's great.

I had my boy do a prefirst ( 1 ) , held him back in 4th ( 2 ) ...reclassed in 8th ( 3 )... plus I intend to do a PG year so am playing him one grade down now ( 4 ) , well its only fair as he wont go straight to college after HS....

Your boy doesnt stand a chance against my boy of 4 years heldback !

Lol. I have two more years to add to my sons holdbacks. I think I'll hold him back again for seventh grade. He might have missed something in the class room this past year. PG year is a must now.

Can he move down to the 2023 team now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend:
T9-1MD takes Capital Classic
Rough Riders take Hilgy's MD Lax Tourney

Will the polo fields be swamped again?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Predictions for this weekend:
T9-1MD takes Capital Classic
Rough Riders take Hilgy's MD Lax Tourney

Will the polo fields be swamped again?[/quote

Probably. Especially with the thunderstorms coming through late Friday night. Gonna be a swamp with tons of bugs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend:
T9-1MD takes Capital Classic
Rough Riders take Hilgy's MD Lax Tourney

Will the polo fields be swamped again?

Don't try to stir it up. The real question is will the crazy RR daddy get pitched before nightfall?!

Roughriders again playing a weak tournament. All the teams are A teams. So Roughriders playing down to trophy hunt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend:
T9-1MD takes Capital Classic
Rough Riders take Hilgy's MD Lax Tourney

Will the polo fields be swamped again?

Don't try to stir it up. The real question is will the crazy RR daddy get pitched before nightfall?!

Playing Thunder again. Think the coach will be tossed again?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roughriders again playing a weak tournament. All the teams are A teams. So Roughriders playing down to trophy hunt.

Not true.

There are a few REALLY good teams in that bracket.

All the local tournaments are not strong this weekend. 91 and Madlax in the Capital and RR and not sure who all the other teams are in that tourney. Bay Bridge is a bunch of nothing. Leagues should play longer schedules. In the HOCO league you could play every team twice and get much better comp over a longer period. Then have like 2 or 3 major summer tournaments (1 in NY , 1 in Philly and 1 in MD) and that would be a great season of lacrosse.
When people say teams are "Trophy Hunting" I do not think that is the case for any elite level team. You sign up for tournaments blindly and when the final teams are released you get what you get. Organizers try and say we have AA , A , B but with no real direction from US lacrosse on what classifies what it is all a crap shoot. You know certain tournaments do drawl better comp so you want to try to go to them but when you try to fill your schedule with other tourneys then you get what registers. Next weekend will be a great tournament at young guns and then 2 weeks later the national champions will show who has improved. Good luck to all the teams playing this weekend and enjoy the beautiful weather!

Team Carolina over T9-1MD at Capital Classic . Not as easy as everyone thought.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team Carolina over T9-1MD at Capital Classic . Not as easy as everyone thought.

Team Carolina is good. They have easy games left and will walk into championship vs. Madlax who had the easy bracket.

Per usual, the Madlax tournament is a total joke.

Madlax vs Carolina in championship
Rough riders vs thunder in championship

Actually I thought the Capital Classic was good this year. It really helped that the weather cooperated. Well run tournament. Nice tight schedules. Didn't have to move around much. The fields were in good shape and there were plenty of shady spots, and places for teams to put their tents. It would have been nice if there was a deeper field. But there were enough good teams to make it interesting. In most age groups, the Madlax, T91MD, Team Carolina, and Sentry teams were all good. So there were at least four good teams in every bracket. While some of the games were blowouts, most of the finals looked like they were exciting games. Hopefully some of the better teams that skipped this year will return next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax vs Carolina in championship
Rough riders vs thunder in championship

Madlax wins Capital Classic
Rough Riders win MD Tourney at McD.

How did the Hawks do this weekend? Haven't seen anything new.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the Hawks do this weekend? Haven't seen anything new.

At young guns next weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax vs Carolina in championship
Rough riders vs thunder in championship

Madlax wins Capital Classic
Rough Riders win MD Tourney at McD.

Carolina is a good team. They have some of the best athletes I've seen all year at the 2022 year and that's a solid win for MadLax having beaten both Team MD and Carolina in consecutive weekends.

That being said, Team MD 91 struggles to score goals against true AA/AAA teams. Not sure what the issue is, however it's a common theme. I would be willing to bet that the best players from that Carolina team will play with Team MD 91 next spring in HOCO after the merger/partnership announcement.

IMO, Hawks 2022 is far and away the best team at this grad year. I'm incredibly impressed at how well they're coached. The offense is not overly scripted or over coached, and their kids play the game the right way with ball movement, off ball movement, correct skill technique, etc...kudos to the club and coaches because quality coaching is difficult to find in clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the Hawks do this weekend? Haven't seen anything new.

At young guns next weekend.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax vs Carolina in championship
Rough riders vs thunder in championship

Madlax wins Capital Classic
Rough Riders win MD Tourney at McD.

Carolina is a good team. They have some of the best athletes I've seen all year at the 2022 year and that's a solid win for MadLax having beaten both Team MD and Carolina in consecutive weekends.

That being said, Team MD 91 struggles to score goals against true AA/AAA teams. Not sure what the issue is, however it's a common theme. I would be willing to bet that the best players from that Carolina team will play with Team MD 91 next spring in HOCO after the merger/partnership announcement.

IMO, Hawks 2022 is far and away the best team at this grad year. I'm incredibly impressed at how well they're coached. The offense is not overly scripted or over coached, and their kids play the game the right way with ball movement, off ball movement, correct skill technique, etc...kudos to the club and coaches because quality coaching is difficult to find in clubs.

Yeah - not many clubs can get former MIAA-A level head coaches and former MLL coaches to work for them coaching 7th graders.

What happened to FCA Blue? Are they done?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to FCA Blue? Are they done?

They were at Summer slam. Lost to Mesa and TX Chaos.

Heard Hawks off this past weekend licking their wounds after going undefeated and winning both NLF Super Summer series in NY and Big 4 HHH tournament in PA.

FCA Blue season is over. Went 3-2 at Summer Slam and lost to Mesa PA in pool play and to Chaos TX in semi finals. Chaos Tx beat Mesa in finals to revenge a lose from the day before.

That is a horrible post. Undefeated everywhere they played this year.
Looking forward to this weekend and the following. It is hard to beat good times all year. Look at uconn women's basketball. That is why you have to play the game. Looking forward to it and good luck to all md teams.

Good luck to API this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good luck to API this weekend.

Opens with express they going to need it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Hawks off this past weekend licking their wounds after going undefeated and winning both NLF Super Summer series in NY and Big 4 HHH tournament in PA.

You do realize that Hawks 2022 have quite a few holdbacks, more than any other 2022 team in the HOCO league at least. Go ahead and deny it, that is what most Hawks parents/fans do but the truth is known and is out there.
I have nothing against holdbacks but when you are bragging about your undefeated team keep in mind your holdbacks are a large part of your success. There have been a few teams this year that gave Hawks a run for their money, but they survived.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Hawks off this past weekend licking their wounds after going undefeated and winning both NLF Super Summer series in NY and Big 4 HHH tournament in PA.

You do realize that Hawks 2022 have quite a few holdbacks, more than any other 2022 team in the HOCO league at least. Go ahead and deny it, that is what most Hawks parents/fans do but the truth is known and is out there.
I have nothing against holdbacks but when you are bragging about your undefeated team keep in mind your holdbacks are a large part of your success. There have been a few teams this year that gave Hawks a run for their money, but they survived.

18-6 Diamondback dad

That was the first game of the season yes Hawks won but I would bet it won't be the same score if they play again it would much closer. Then again you should win with all your Holdbacks . What do you have now 4 or 5 holdbacks .Then next year I hear 3 more are dropping down .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Hawks off this past weekend licking their wounds after going undefeated and winning both NLF Super Summer series in NY and Big 4 HHH tournament in PA.

You do realize that Hawks 2022 have quite a few holdbacks, more than any other 2022 team in the HOCO league at least. Go ahead and deny it, that is what most Hawks parents/fans do but the truth is known and is out there.
I have nothing against holdbacks but when you are bragging about your undefeated team keep in mind your holdbacks are a large part of your success. There have been a few teams this year that gave Hawks a run for their money, but they survived.

18-6 Diamondback dad

4 holdbacks is not more than any other team in hoco. Hawks definitely have a lot fewer than FCA, Crabs, Bethesda, & Madlax. Stop the excuses and practice more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Hawks off this past weekend licking their wounds after going undefeated and winning both NLF Super Summer series in NY and Big 4 HHH tournament in PA.

You do realize that Hawks 2022 have quite a few holdbacks, more than any other 2022 team in the HOCO league at least. Go ahead and deny it, that is what most Hawks parents/fans do but the truth is known and is out there.
I have nothing against holdbacks but when you are bragging about your undefeated team keep in mind your holdbacks are a large part of your success. There have been a few teams this year that gave Hawks a run for their money, but they survived.

18-6 Diamondback dad

4 holdbacks is not more than any other team in hoco. Hawks definitely have a lot fewer than FCA, Crabs, Bethesda, & Madlax. Stop the excuses and practice more.

Recruit more

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That was the first game of the season yes Hawks won but I would bet it won't be the same score if they play again it would much closer. Then again you should win with all your Holdbacks . What do you have now 4 or 5 holdbacks .Then next year I hear 3 more are dropping down .

What excuse will api have when they get blown out in Denver?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That was the first game of the season yes Hawks won but I would bet it won't be the same score if they play again it would much closer. Then again you should win with all your Holdbacks . What do you have now 4 or 5 holdbacks .Then next year I hear 3 more are dropping down .

What excuse will api have when they get blown out in Denver?

What excuse do Hawks have for not going to Denver? Holdbacks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That was the first game of the season yes Hawks won but I would bet it won't be the same score if they play again it would much closer. Then again you should win with all your Holdbacks . What do you have now 4 or 5 holdbacks .Then next year I hear 3 more are dropping down .

At least you rightfully acknowledge you WILL still get beat

Have the Diamondbacks beaten any quality teams this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That was the first game of the season yes Hawks won but I would bet it won't be the same score if they play again it would much closer. Then again you should win with all your Holdbacks . What do you have now 4 or 5 holdbacks .Then next year I hear 3 more are dropping down .

What excuse will api have when they get blown out in Denver?

What excuse do Hawks have for not going to Denver? Holdbacks!

Money grab. Better competition at Young Guns

Last year and this year was first time you beat Api/Diamondbacks ...why HOLDBACKS... you had to get older kids beat younger ....ok let's take your holdbacks away let's play straight up. Anytime and any place . We will have are full team but you won't ...

Hawks can't go because HOLDBACKS

Agreed, can't wait to see the mass-exit out of API (aka Arden) this August after their parents & children waste yet another year and $ with a team that is not advancing their lacrosse IQ but select parents rather whine about a 1-6 month age differences on other teams. So sad, there are about 4-6 kids on that team that really are really talented that need to look elsewhere to help advance their lacrosse skills and playing IQ. Teams around MD would love to have these kids, yet their parents continue ensure they play for a team that is subpar--for whatever reason this continues to make sense to them?

Big weekend at Youngs guns. Will crabs reclass all of the 21 kids to the 22 team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend at Youngs guns. Will crabs reclass all of the 21 kids to the 22 team?

Wait, I hear something, oh, big old fart. Shut up, teams have been set all year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks can't go because HOLDBACKS

Wsyl - weak competition & expensive. Millon 2022 championship tournament is legit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks can't go because HOLDBACKS

Wsyl - weak competition & expensive. Millon 2022 championship tournament is legit.

Don't think for one second that your team would not be going if you thought you had a chance of winning it with on age players. There is not better advertising for a Club than to be on TV and winning the championship.

After 91 won it the amount of kids that tried out for their teams the next year almost doubled. I bet the same for Legggaaaccceee.

The fact that the Hawks have 3 players that could not make the 5/1/03 is crazy. It is crazy to me that a contact sport is not regulated and kids of any age can participate in a tournament. Unfortunately it's going toe take a kid getting seriously hurt and they sue the Clubs involved and US Lacrosse before anything changes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks can't go because HOLDBACKS

Wsyl - weak competition & expensive. Millon 2022 championship tournament is legit.

Don't think for one second that your team would not be going if you thought you had a chance of winning it with on age players. There is not better advertising for a Club than to be on TV and winning the championship.

After 91 won it the amount of kids that tried out for their teams the next year almost doubled. I bet the same for Legggaaaccceee.

The fact that the Hawks have 3 players that could not make the 5/1/03 is crazy. It is crazy to me that a contact sport is not regulated and kids of any age can participate in a tournament. Unfortunately it's going toe take a kid getting seriously hurt and they sue the Clubs involved and US Lacrosse before anything changes.

18-6 Diamondbag dad/coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks can't go because HOLDBACKS

Wsyl - weak competition & expensive. Millon 2022 championship tournament is legit.

Don't think for one second that your team would not be going if you thought you had a chance of winning it with on age players. There is not better advertising for a Club than to be on TV and winning the championship.

After 91 won it the amount of kids that tried out for their teams the next year almost doubled. I bet the same for Legggaaaccceee.

The fact that the Hawks have 3 players that could not make the 5/1/03 is crazy. It is crazy to me that a contact sport is not regulated and kids of any age can participate in a tournament. Unfortunately it's going toe take a kid getting seriously hurt and they sue the Clubs involved and US Lacrosse before anything changes.

The cut off was 9/1/2003, they changed it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend at Youngs guns. Will crabs reclass all of the 21 kids to the 22 team?

Not all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend at Youngs guns. Will crabs reclass all of the 21 kids to the 22 team?

Not all.

Come on now...They have a few that are actually 2020 and cant reclass again!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last year and this year was first time you beat Api/Diamondbacks ...why HOLDBACKS... you had to get older kids beat younger ....ok let's take your holdbacks away let's play straight up. Anytime and any place . We will have are full team but you won't ...

And the year before, and the year before. 3rd grade sure was awesome when no one was close to the Diamondbacks and T9-1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks can't go because HOLDBACKS

Wsyl - weak competition & expensive. Millon 2022 championship tournament is legit.

Don't think for one second that your team would not be going if you thought you had a chance of winning it with on age players. There is not better advertising for a Club than to be on TV and winning the championship.

After 91 won it the amount of kids that tried out for their teams the next year almost doubled. I bet the same for Legggaaaccceee.

The fact that the Hawks have 3 players that could not make the 5/1/03 is crazy. It is crazy to me that a contact sport is not regulated and kids of any age can participate in a tournament. Unfortunately it's going toe take a kid getting seriously hurt and they sue the Clubs involved and US Lacrosse before anything changes.

Only 1 Hawk doesn't make the 5/1 cutoff.

How great is the advertising when you lose by double digits?

Hawks let's play another game age base and see who would win ... you won't do it because API would win . Hawks can't win without their HOLDBACKS . Everyone knows it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks can't go because HOLDBACKS

Wsyl - weak competition & expensive. Millon 2022 championship tournament is legit.

Don't think for one second that your team would not be going if you thought you had a chance of winning it with on age players. There is not better advertising for a Club than to be on TV and winning the championship.

After 91 won it the amount of kids that tried out for their teams the next year almost doubled. I bet the same for Legggaaaccceee.

The fact that the Hawks have 3 players that could not make the 5/1/03 is crazy. It is crazy to me that a contact sport is not regulated and kids of any age can participate in a tournament. Unfortunately it's going toe take a kid getting seriously hurt and they sue the Clubs involved and US Lacrosse before anything changes.

Only 1 Hawk doesn't make the 5/1 cutoff.

How great is the advertising when you lose by double digits?

I thought they changed the cutoff to Sept 1 this year??? May 1 was last year cutoff to let in all the holdbacks..

It should be a combo a cutoff date and grade being rising eigth.Igloo has 6 players from its 2021 Black Ice who are rising 9th.Talk about taking advantage of the rules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It should be a combo a cutoff date and grade being rising eigth.Igloo has 6 players from its 2021 Black Ice who are rising 9th.Talk about taking advantage of the rules.

Is that due to MD schools starting Sept 1 and NY schools starting Dec 1 ?? or is it Jan1 ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It should be a combo a cutoff date and grade being rising eigth.Igloo has 6 players from its 2021 Black Ice who are rising 9th.Talk about taking advantage of the rules.

Igloo upset they lost last year after the rule change. They broke up what seemed to be a good group of kids. If you cannot beat them join them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It should be a combo a cutoff date and grade being rising eigth.Igloo has 6 players from its 2021 Black Ice who are rising 9th.Talk about taking advantage of the rules.

Igloo upset they lost last year after the rule change. They broke up what seemed to be a good group of kids. If you cannot beat them join them.

Can't have it both ways boys. Igloo is playing by the rules as did L#$%@% last year. Again this an age based event. When the argument of age comes up at Millon this year specifically with the Hawks team you will defend them having 15 year olds playing against 13 year olds because the rules say graduating year .Enjoy the game on TV

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It should be a combo a cutoff date and grade being rising eigth.Igloo has 6 players from its 2021 Black Ice who are rising 9th.Talk about taking advantage of the rules.

Igloo upset they lost last year after the rule change. They broke up what seemed to be a good group of kids. If you cannot beat them join them.

Can't have it both ways boys. Igloo is playing by the rules as did L#$%@% last year. Again this an age based event. When the argument of age comes up at Millon this year specifically with the Hawks team you will defend them having 15 year olds playing against 13 year olds because the rules say graduating year .Enjoy the game on TV

Age based, not with the intention of rising high school boys to be brought down to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend at Youngs guns. Will crabs reclass all of the 21 kids to the 22 team?

Not all.

Come on now...They have a few that are actually 2020 and cant reclass again!

2022 Crabs totally different team at Young Guns. Totally different players. Many guest players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks can't go because HOLDBACKS

Wsyl - weak competition & expensive. Millon 2022 championship tournament is legit.

Don't think for one second that your team would not be going if you thought you had a chance of winning it with on age players. There is not better advertising for a Club than to be on TV and winning the championship.

After 91 won it the amount of kids that tried out for their teams the next year almost doubled. I bet the same for Legggaaaccceee.

The fact that the Hawks have 3 players that could not make the 5/1/03 is crazy. It is crazy to me that a contact sport is not regulated and kids of any age can participate in a tournament. Unfortunately it's going toe take a kid getting seriously hurt and they sue the Clubs involved and US Lacrosse before anything changes.

Only 1 Hawk doesn't make the 5/1 cutoff.

How great is the advertising when you lose by double digits?

I thought they changed the cutoff to Sept 1 this year??? May 1 was last year cutoff to let in all the holdbacks..

The cutoff was 5/1 until WSYL changed it in December 2016 to 9/1 after the teams were fixed in August 2016. What true team tears them selves apart just for one tournament?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks let's play another game age base and see who would win ... you won't do it because API would win . Hawks can't win without their HOLDBACKS . Everyone knows it

Your Envy ,jealousy and bitterness is comical. Don't be mad because your team is still playing 3rd grade lacrosse. Good luck next year finding a team for your kid. API better win WSYL so they can at least field a 2022 team next year. Your [lacrosse] talking on an anonymous site is exactly why your team is in the shape its in. I guess coaching football, basketball,lacrosse,soccer and what ever else is over for the DADDY sidelines. Both sidelines! There is however the helicopter in your favor. Try trying out for a team that Daddies control. Every sport your kid plays.

ANY updates from WSYL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend at Youngs guns. Will crabs reclass all of the 21 kids to the 22 team?

Not all.

Come on now...They have a few that are actually 2020 and cant reclass again!

2022 Crabs totally different team at Young Guns. Totally different players. Many guest players.

Surprised to see Pietramala's kids guest playing. Somehow, I thought he'd be above that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend at Youngs guns. Will crabs reclass all of the 21 kids to the 22 team?

Not all.

Come on now...They have a few that are actually 2020 and cant reclass again!

2022 Crabs totally different team at Young Guns. Totally different players. Many guest players.

Surprised to see Pietramala's kids guest playing. Somehow, I thought he'd be above that.

They guest play all the time. It won't matter. Even with the guests the Crabs team isn't all that good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It should be a combo a cutoff date and grade being rising eigth.Igloo has 6 players from its 2021 Black Ice who are rising 9th.Talk about taking advantage of the rules.

Is that due to MD schools starting Sept 1 and NY schools starting Dec 1 ?? or is it Jan1 ??

9/1 is just an arbitrary date that WSYL picked out of the air. Initially they were following the little league baseball world series which is 5/1, but then they changed it. Soccer uses 1/1 as the date.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big weekend at Youngs guns. Will crabs reclass all of the 21 kids to the 22 team?

Not all.

Come on now...They have a few that are actually 2020 and cant reclass again!

Crabs 2021 has more than a few 2020's on their 2021 team. I know who most of them are. Ryan McClernan just continues his bullsh^t ways. The most disgusting individual in club lacrosse, followed closely by Kelly, head coach of FCA 2020 and CH. Another disgusting individual.

By 10am tomorrow Diamondbacks fun in Denver comes to a end. They will get blown out by Express.

Ok you a hole who posted this response. The crabs are a cheating bunch of s-heads. I feel bad for the kids and families that sit there at the games and say wow look how good we are and then you have players from Koopers 2012 and team 91 play for you as guest players. What the F are guest players? If you are team and a real program you play with what you have . Like I said in the original post they have cheated. I am only sure abut one thing and that is the Hawks will still beat the snot out of crabs. Also really you have canada edge vs RR in the one quarter and mad lax masa in the other?
Please some explain how that happened? Edge and RR would blow either one of those teams off the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

By 10am tomorrow Diamondbacks fun in Denver comes to a end. They will get blown out by Express.

You feel better by posting that? Sure the boys will have a great time. I doubt they have illusions of winning the tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It should be a combo a cutoff date and grade being rising eigth.Igloo has 6 players from its 2021 Black Ice who are rising 9th.Talk about taking advantage of the rules.

Igloo upset they lost last year after the rule change. They broke up what seemed to be a good group of kids. If you cannot beat them join them.

Can't have it both ways boys. Igloo is playing by the rules as did L#$%@% last year. Again this an age based event. When the argument of age comes up at Millon this year specifically with the Hawks team you will defend them having 15 year olds playing against 13 year olds because the rules say graduating year .Enjoy the game on TV

Age based, not with the intention of rising high school boys to be brought down to play.

Says you...and only you

CrabKoopLoons is in the championship game at Young Guns!

Api / diamondbacks beat express 7-6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It should be a combo a cutoff date and grade being rising eigth.Igloo has 6 players from its 2021 Black Ice who are rising 9th.Talk about taking advantage of the rules.

Igloo upset they lost last year after the rule change. They broke up what seemed to be a good group of kids. If you cannot beat them join them.

Can't have it both ways boys. Igloo is playing by the rules as did L#$%@% last year. Again this an age based event. When the argument of age comes up at Millon this year specifically with the Hawks team you will defend them having 15 year olds playing against 13 year olds because the rules say graduating year .Enjoy the game on TV

Age based, not with the intention of rising high school boys to be brought down to play.

Says you...and only you

Someone is very confused about what age based means.... doesn't matter if they are rising high school boys. That would matter in a GRADE based tournament. That one little word makes all the difference.

Serious question, the Kooper's kids you say are guest playing for Crabs this weekend, are they 2021's playing down on Crabs 2022? Or are they playing for Crabs 2021?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Api / diamondbacks beat express 7-6

That had to be a good game to watch

Koopers who played are 2022

No they are on the 2021 koopers team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No they are on the 2021 koopers team.

If Petro's sons were playing as guest players for Crabs 2022 team then they were playing down. Both sons play for Koopers 2021.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No they are on the 2021 koopers team.

If Petro's sons were playing as guest players for Crabs 2022 team then they were playing down. Both sons play for Koopers 2021.

Both boys have been playing up for years now. They are 7th grade students. The Koopers 2021 team, which originated some years ago with a core group that played at MLC were combined with kids from the now defunct Fearless club to form a 2021 team. By my count, I believe that 5-6 Koopers 2021 kids are enrolled in the 7th grade with the remainder 8th graders. It is an interesting team and well coached. They are 2022's and as "guests" were playing at an age/grade appropriate level. They are prodigies -- that can play against ever greater/older competition and very effectively. It was fun watching them compete at Young Guns this weekend.

MD cant compete w LI. U will See.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No they are on the 2021 koopers team.

If Petro's sons were playing as guest players for Crabs 2022 team then they were playing down. Both sons play for Koopers 2021.

Both boys have been playing up for years now. They are 7th grade students. The Koopers 2021 team, which originated some years ago with a core group that played at MLC were combined with kids from the now defunct Fearless club to form a 2021 team. By my count, I believe that 5-6 Koopers 2021 kids are enrolled in the 7th grade with the remainder 8th graders. It is an interesting team and well coached. They are 2022's and as "guests" were playing at an age/grade appropriate level. They are prodigies -- that can play against ever greater/older competition and very effectively. It was fun watching them compete at Young Guns this weekend.

Agreed,
Very good competition this weekend with very good refs. Most games were very hard fought. Edge was very tough ,Philly teams all came to play,RR's took it to everyone this weekend and had the Hawks on the ropes till the last seconds. Crabs brought the horses to win it but the Hawks prevail over the field. Fun to watch .

Api/Diamondbacks 3-- 0 for the day .congrats Diamondbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No they are on the 2021 koopers team.

If Petro's sons were playing as guest players for Crabs 2022 team then they were playing down. Both sons play for Koopers 2021.

Both boys have been playing up for years now. They are 7th grade students. The Koopers 2021 team, which originated some years ago with a core group that played at MLC were combined with kids from the now defunct Fearless club to form a 2021 team. By my count, I believe that 5-6 Koopers 2021 kids are enrolled in the 7th grade with the remainder 8th graders. It is an interesting team and well coached. They are 2022's and as "guests" were playing at an age/grade appropriate level. They are prodigies -- that can play against ever greater/older competition and very effectively. It was fun watching them compete at Young Guns this weekend.

That's great if they've been playing up with 2021's for several years. After watching that Crabs/Edge game, that may have been grade appropriate but it was certainly not age appropriate. The majority of those kids were obviously 14 if not older. It was like watching a JV game. Great lacrosse, but please don't act like those kids were age appropriate. The same is true for that Edge team and the Hawks. Older kids playing rising 8th grade lax. That's the truth.

And yes, I understand it's a grade based tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Api/Diamondbacks 3-- 0 for the day .congrats Diamondbacks.

who cares

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD cant compete w LI. U will See.

Hawks beat most of LI's best at NLF (Express & T9-1 & others)
Diamondbacks beat Express at Wsyl

What else is there to see?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No they are on the 2021 koopers team.

If Petro's sons were playing as guest players for Crabs 2022 team then they were playing down. Both sons play for Koopers 2021.

Both boys have been playing up for years now. They are 7th grade students. The Koopers 2021 team, which originated some years ago with a core group that played at MLC were combined with kids from the now defunct Fearless club to form a 2021 team. By my count, I believe that 5-6 Koopers 2021 kids are enrolled in the 7th grade with the remainder 8th graders. It is an interesting team and well coached. They are 2022's and as "guests" were playing at an age/grade appropriate level. They are prodigies -- that can play against ever greater/older competition and very effectively. It was fun watching them compete at Young Guns this weekend.

Petro's kids are very good players but hardly prodigies. Hawks made them look like regular 2022 AA players today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No they are on the 2021 koopers team.

If Petro's sons were playing as guest players for Crabs 2022 team then they were playing down. Both sons play for Koopers 2021.

Both boys have been playing up for years now. They are 7th grade students. The Koopers 2021 team, which originated some years ago with a core group that played at MLC were combined with kids from the now defunct Fearless club to form a 2021 team. By my count, I believe that 5-6 Koopers 2021 kids are enrolled in the 7th grade with the remainder 8th graders. It is an interesting team and well coached. They are 2022's and as "guests" were playing at an age/grade appropriate level. They are prodigies -- that can play against ever greater/older competition and very effectively. It was fun watching them compete at Young Guns this weekend.

Agreed,
Very good competition this weekend with very good refs. Most games were very hard fought. Edge was very tough ,Philly teams all came to play,RR's took it to everyone this weekend and had the Hawks on the ropes till the last seconds. Crabs brought the horses to win it but the Hawks prevail over the field. Fun to watch .

So Edge has a team at Wsyl and a team at Young Guns? Were all the 2022s at Young Guns older than the 9/1 Wsyl cutoff? They sure looked like it and played like it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No they are on the 2021 koopers team.

If Petro's sons were playing as guest players for Crabs 2022 team then they were playing down. Both sons play for Koopers 2021.

Both boys have been playing up for years now. They are 7th grade students. The Koopers 2021 team, which originated some years ago with a core group that played at MLC were combined with kids from the now defunct Fearless club to form a 2021 team. By my count, I believe that 5-6 Koopers 2021 kids are enrolled in the 7th grade with the remainder 8th graders. It is an interesting team and well coached. They are 2022's and as "guests" were playing at an age/grade appropriate level. They are prodigies -- that can play against ever greater/older competition and very effectively. It was fun watching them compete at Young Guns this weekend.

Agreed,
Very good competition this weekend with very good refs. Most games were very hard fought. Edge was very tough ,Philly teams all came to play,RR's took it to everyone this weekend and had the Hawks on the ropes till the last seconds. Crabs brought the horses to win it but the Hawks prevail over the field. Fun to watch .

So Edge has a team at Wsyl and a team at Young Guns? Were all the 2022s at Young Guns older than the 9/1 Wsyl cutoff? They sure looked like it and played like it.

Of course they were older.

Edge is notorious for playing kids down. They see Baltimore getting an advantage with holdbacks and do the same thing. Prior posters have shown that they play down players because they will be held back in years to come or will be doing a PG year in years to come. So with that logic..play them down now.

Crazy but true! The state of Holdback Club Youth Lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No they are on the 2021 koopers team.

If Petro's sons were playing as guest players for Crabs 2022 team then they were playing down. Both sons play for Koopers 2021.

Both boys have been playing up for years now. They are 7th grade students. The Koopers 2021 team, which originated some years ago with a core group that played at MLC were combined with kids from the now defunct Fearless club to form a 2021 team. By my count, I believe that 5-6 Koopers 2021 kids are enrolled in the 7th grade with the remainder 8th graders. It is an interesting team and well coached. They are 2022's and as "guests" were playing at an age/grade appropriate level. They are prodigies -- that can play against ever greater/older competition and very effectively. It was fun watching them compete at Young Guns this weekend.

Petro's kids are very good players but hardly prodigies. Hawks made them look like regular 2022 AA players today.

The attack Petro ran his mouth all weekend like he was the greatest ever

Petro aside, how is the coaching for Crab's 2022?

It great - fat Crab is just starting to warm them up by berating them in public.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No they are on the 2021 koopers team.

If Petro's sons were playing as guest players for Crabs 2022 team then they were playing down. Both sons play for Koopers 2021.

Both boys have been playing up for years now. They are 7th grade students. The Koopers 2021 team, which originated some years ago with a core group that played at MLC were combined with kids from the now defunct Fearless club to form a 2021 team. By my count, I believe that 5-6 Koopers 2021 kids are enrolled in the 7th grade with the remainder 8th graders. It is an interesting team and well coached. They are 2022's and as "guests" were playing at an age/grade appropriate level. They are prodigies -- that can play against ever greater/older competition and very effectively. It was fun watching them compete at Young Guns this weekend.

Petro's kids are very good players but hardly prodigies. Hawks made them look like regular 2022 AA players today.

The attack Petro ran his mouth all weekend like he was the greatest ever

Yup. Really cocky

Shame that they benched a player for those two to play. Not impressed.

Those boys were very good, talking trash is part of every game. I guess you Daddies only like to talk trash on anonymous sites. Tell your boys to step up their game cause they will be playing at their normal age fro here on out.

That is not a problem and I think all the kids can take that and give it at this level. My son is a "hold back" so no grip on that but when you he guest players that is some BS. Have a roster and stick to it. You have try outs in August so from that time until a certain date(jan 1st) ypu can do whatever you want but to add not 1 but at least 4 kids I know of to a crabs team for a tournament is BS. Isn't an ex raven son oon that team? I would think someone like that can say in youth sports that is cheating to add players for a tournament. You had a team that played in a league that is the teteam we should see.M

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those boys were very good, talking trash is part of every game. I guess you Daddies only like to talk trash on anonymous sites. Tell your boys to step up their game cause they will be playing at their normal age fro here on out.

I totally don't have an issue with it. In fact, we got a good laugh out of it when he couldn't back it up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is not a problem and I think all the kids can take that and give it at this level. My son is a "hold back" so no grip on that but when you he guest players that is some BS. Have a roster and stick to it. You have try outs in August so from that time until a certain date(jan 1st) ypu can do whatever you want but to add not 1 but at least 4 kids I know of to a crabs team for a tournament is BS. Isn't an ex raven son oon that team? I would think someone like that can say in youth sports that is cheating to add players for a tournament. You had a team that played in a league that is the teteam we should see.M

Its summer league, this as been done for years. Hardly cheating

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those boys were very good, talking trash is part of every game. I guess you Daddies only like to talk trash on anonymous sites. Tell your boys to step up their game cause they will be playing at their normal age fro here on out.

I totally don't have an issue with it. In fact, we got a good laugh out of it when he couldn't back it up

So glad the you don't have an issue with it. That is the point, why do you care so much and continue to rag a 13 year old anonymously. Why don't you state your boys name on here so everyone knows who is trolling who. You are sad and pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those boys were very good, talking trash is part of every game. I guess you Daddies only like to talk trash on anonymous sites. Tell your boys to step up their game cause they will be playing at their normal age fro here on out.

I totally don't have an issue with it. In fact, we got a good laugh out of it when he couldn't back it up

So glad the you don't have an issue with it. That is the point, why do you care so much and continue to rag a 13 year old anonymously. Why don't you state your boys name on here so everyone knows who is trolling who. You are sad and pathetic.

Easy there champ. Not ragging anyone. Both seem like good players. Maybe one day they will be as good as they say they are?

API in final four.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those boys were very good, talking trash is part of every game. I guess you Daddies only like to talk trash on anonymous sites. Tell your boys to step up their game cause they will be playing at their normal age fro here on out.

I totally don't have an issue with it. In fact, we got a good laugh out of it when he couldn't back it up

So glad the you don't have an issue with it. That is the point, why do you care so much and continue to rag a 13 year old anonymously. Why don't you state your boys name on here so everyone knows who is trolling who. You are sad and pathetic.

Easy there champ. Not ragging anyone. Both seem like good players. Maybe one day they will be as good as they say they are?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those boys were very good, talking trash is part of every game. I guess you Daddies only like to talk trash on anonymous sites. Tell your boys to step up their game cause they will be playing at their normal age fro here on out.

Thats great news. Look forward to seeing them improve from this last showing.

You think they will go to Hopkins?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those boys were very good, talking trash is part of every game. I guess you Daddies only like to talk trash on anonymous sites. Tell your boys to step up their game cause they will be playing at their normal age fro here on out.

I totally don't have an issue with it. In fact, we got a good laugh out of it when he couldn't back it up

So glad the you don't have an issue with it. That is the point, why do you care so much and continue to rag a 13 year old anonymously. Why don't you state your boys name on here so everyone knows who is trolling who. You are sad and pathetic.

What's your sons name? Troll

So what should the summer top 10 rankings be to this point?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API in final four.

Not sure what to think of this.

On the one hand, good for a local team. On the other hand, this was a 2-4 Elite division team, meaning they weren't in the top half of their league this spring. I realize it's not possible for a tournament to figure out who the "best team" really is, but what does this say about this particular tournament? Good for the kids, not so sure how good for the tournament when people go home and start to figure out where the teams really are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API in final four.

Not sure what to think of this.

On the one hand, good for a local team. On the other hand, this was a 2-4 Elite division team, meaning they weren't in the top half of their league this spring. I realize it's not possible for a tournament to figure out who the "best team" really is, but what does this say about this particular tournament? Good for the kids, not so sure how good for the tournament when people go home and start to figure out where the teams really are.

Why concern yourself with such things.

This is what happens when you go age based for an entire tourney. It changes the playing field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API in final four.

Not sure what to think of this.

On the one hand, good for a local team. On the other hand, this was a 2-4 Elite division team, meaning they weren't in the top half of their league this spring. I realize it's not possible for a tournament to figure out who the "best team" really is, but what does this say about this particular tournament? Good for the kids, not so sure how good for the tournament when people go home and start to figure out where the teams really are.

You really can't figure out what the difference is?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is what happens when you go age based for an entire tourney. It changes the playing field

Yeah. Lots of teams with the best players don't attend and only the clubs that are willing leave kids behind go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API in final four.

Not sure what to think of this.

On the one hand, good for a local team. On the other hand, this was a 2-4 Elite division team, meaning they weren't in the top half of their league this spring. I realize it's not possible for a tournament to figure out who the "best team" really is, but what does this say about this particular tournament? Good for the kids, not so sure how good for the tournament when people go home and start to figure out where the teams really are.

You really can't figure out what the difference is?

Actually I can...

What it really means is that grade-based teams aren't that much better than age-based teams. So all this nonsense about people either complaining about or praising the virtues of the holdback system doesn't mean that much. So let's all shut up about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API in final four.

Not sure what to think of this.

On the one hand, good for a local team. On the other hand, this was a 2-4 Elite division team, meaning they weren't in the top half of their league this spring. I realize it's not possible for a tournament to figure out who the "best team" really is, but what does this say about this particular tournament? Good for the kids, not so sure how good for the tournament when people go home and start to figure out where the teams really are.

You really can't figure out what the difference is?

Actually I can...

What it really means is that grade-based teams aren't that much better than age-based teams. So all this nonsense about people either complaining about or praising the virtues of the holdback system doesn't mean that much. So let's all shut up about it.

Then let's stop pretending that you or anyone else knows who is the "best". It all depends on how many holdbacks etc. Way to many variables with grade based to call anyone "best" or anything "championship"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API in final four.

average team with over the top hype, [lacrosse] bag HC with over the top self hype flies to Denver so they can actually have a chance to win a tournament this summer....Bravo. Nice vacation, great fireworks tonight. Just enjoy the moment with your kids, don't come to chat room looking for a chest bump.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API in final four.

Not sure what to think of this.

On the one hand, good for a local team. On the other hand, this was a 2-4 Elite division team, meaning they weren't in the top half of their league this spring. I realize it's not possible for a tournament to figure out who the "best team" really is, but what does this say about this particular tournament? Good for the kids, not so sure how good for the tournament when people go home and start to figure out where the teams really are.

You really can't figure out what the difference is?

Actually I can...

What it really means is that grade-based teams aren't that much better than age-based teams. So all this nonsense about people either complaining about or praising the virtues of the holdback system doesn't mean that much. So let's all shut up about it.

Then let's stop pretending that you or anyone else knows who is the "best". It all depends on how many holdbacks etc. Way to many variables with grade based to call anyone "best" or anything "championship"

There are always way too many variables to say that any team that wins a championship is actually the "best" team. What really matters, particularly in youth sports, is how well teams compete.

API lost express in semifinal. Got blown out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

API in final four.

Not sure what to think of this.

On the one hand, good for a local team. On the other hand, this was a 2-4 Elite division team, meaning they weren't in the top half of their league this spring. I realize it's not possible for a tournament to figure out who the "best team" really is, but what does this say about this particular tournament? Good for the kids, not so sure how good for the tournament when people go home and start to figure out where the teams really are.

You really can't figure out what the difference is?

Actually I can...

What it really means is that grade-based teams aren't that much better than age-based teams. So all this nonsense about people either complaining about or praising the virtues of the holdback system doesn't mean that much. So let's all shut up about it.

Then let's stop pretending that you or anyone else knows who is the "best". It all depends on how many holdbacks etc. Way to many variables with grade based to call anyone "best" or anything "championship"

There are always way too many variables to say that any team that wins a championship is actually the "best" team. What really matters, particularly in youth sports, is how well teams compete.

I agree completely but it's important to keep the variables as close to fair as possible so that the teams can truly "compete"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Petro aside, how is the coaching for Crab's 2022?

Well even with adding some very good kids to the team this weekend they still got smoked by Hawks. As has been seen, Crabs 2022 just isn't a good team. If RM coaches them next year he may have a heart attack.

The coaches were great last year when they coached the 2021s. This year the 2022s got run off the field on many occasions with the same coaches. Coaches had no clue how to adjust. Just keep running the same old terrible offense Crabs. The rest of the teams enjoy beating up on you.

Api /Diamondbacks had a great run . They beat Express in the being of the Tournament but Express made adjustments and beat to the finalApi/Diamondbacks in the Semi Finals to move forward to finals .. just wasn't Api /Diamondbacks day.The coach didn't use his bench in the semifinals game against Express so the first line just got to tired . Transitions killed them with no fresh legs on the field .The Head Coach needs to start trusting his players and using them .

Diamondbacks almost last place in hoco makes wsyl final four.
Prime Time goes 0-4 at NLF tourney and makes wsyl championship game.
Wsyl just does not have the top competition at their tournament. B level competition with promotion better than the MLL has. Crazy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Diamondbacks almost last place in hoco makes wsyl final four.
Prime Time goes 0-4 at NLF tourney and makes wsyl championship game.
Wsyl just does not have the top competition at their tournament. B level competition with promotion better than the MLL has. Crazy.

I know you know better than this, nobody is this clueless, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Diamondbacks almost last place in hoco makes wsyl final four.
Prime Time goes 0-4 at NLF tourney and makes wsyl championship game.
Wsyl just does not have the top competition at their tournament. B level competition with promotion better than the MLL has. Crazy.

I know you know better than this, nobody is this clueless, right?

Looks like the 0-4 NLF Prime Time team showed up for the final.

This tells you how many holdbacks are out their . They can't compete with out them . It's Denver to far , did want to leave teammate's behind and the competition is not good. You guys have so many excuses the bottom lines is your just not that good without your holdbacks .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This tells you how many holdbacks are out their . They can't compete with out them . It's Denver to far , did want to leave teammate's behind and the competition is not good. You guys have so many excuses the bottom lines is your just not that good without your holdbacks .

I guess you'll never know because you prefer playing at the rec level and not with the big boys.

At least there is the Millon Championship to answer all questions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Diamondbacks almost last place in hoco makes wsyl final four.
Prime Time goes 0-4 at NLF tourney and makes wsyl championship game.
Wsyl just does not have the top competition at their tournament. B level competition with promotion better than the MLL has. Crazy.

You are aware that this Primetime team has 4 players from another organization for this tournament?.not complaining..within the rules

How many of the World's Best Teams make the trip from Denver to Annapolis next week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Api /Diamondbacks had a great run . They beat Express in the being of the Tournament but Express made adjustments and beat to the finalApi/Diamondbacks in the Semi Finals to move forward to finals .. just wasn't Api /Diamondbacks day.The coach didn't use his bench in the semifinals game against Express so the first line just got to tired . Transitions killed them with no fresh legs on the field .The Head Coach needs to start trusting his players and using them .

This has been the MO for the Diamondbacks for years now 3 or 4 kids doing all the scoring. Short bench not developing players. Only one thing matters winning at all cost. Teams make adjustments to API and API coaching can not adjust to them.
BTW 18-6

Get a life

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Diamondbacks almost last place in hoco makes wsyl final four.
Prime Time goes 0-4 at NLF tourney and makes wsyl championship game.
Wsyl just does not have the top competition at their tournament. B level competition with promotion better than the MLL has. Crazy.

You are aware that this Primetime team has 4 players from another organization for this tournament?.not complaining..within the rules

All teams dropped kids and picked up kids or were formed solely for this event. It is a gimmick.

it was a AGE based tournament...sept 1st cut off. all the holdback cheaters couldn't play. Kids are at camp its the silly season. Just a money grab for the tournament and kids JUST HAVING FUN. like all tournaments if who every wins come Monday it JUST DOESN'T MATTER. Kids just want to have a good time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Get a life

18-6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

it was a AGE based tournament...sept 1st cut off. all the holdback cheaters couldn't play. Kids are at camp its the silly season. Just a money grab for the tournament and kids JUST HAVING FUN. like all tournaments if who every wins come Monday it JUST DOESN'T MATTER. Kids just want to have a good time.

Were they holdback cheaters when the cutoff was 5/1 last year?

Will most kids this year be holdback cheaters when it moves to 1/1 next year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Get a life

18-6

What's 18-6 mean?

Some Madlax dad said their 2022 is one of the best out there. Is that true?

They are not bad. In the region they are top 6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some Madlax dad said their 2022 is one of the best out there. Is that true?

Ask that same Madlax dad how the team did at Young Guns and you'll get your answer...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some Madlax dad said their 2022 is one of the best out there. Is that true?

Ask that same Madlax dad how the team did at Young Guns and you'll get your answer...

5th place hoco. Solid team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many of the World's Best Teams make the trip from Denver to Annapolis next week.

Naptown competition for high school teams ridiculous. If that isn't a world championship caliber lineup for 2021 - 2018, I don't know what is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many of the World's Best Teams make the trip from Denver to Annapolis next week.

Naptown competition for high school teams ridiculous. If that isn't a world championship caliber lineup for 2021 - 2018, I don't know what is.

Where are Crabs?

never moving to 1/1 may move to 8/1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

never moving to 1/1 may move to 8/1

They change it every year, if they made it 8/1 this year then almost every MD team would have went. Most teams have a few kids born in August 03 which is why they did not go. They need to make the change now before try outs start. Last year they made the change after rosters were set and set by using the 5/1 date from the previous year. Rec,Club,US Lacrosse,WSYL all need to get in tune with each other to move this sport forward together. Age or Grade, just get it right so all can play by one set of rules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many of the World's Best Teams make the trip from Denver to Annapolis next week.

Naptown competition for high school teams ridiculous. If that isn't a world championship caliber lineup for 2021 - 2018, I don't know what is.

Where are Crabs?

Crabs rarely do a Hogan tournament. Crabs also end their season 4th of July weekend every year.
They might be the only Top teams not at this event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

never moving to 1/1 may move to 8/1

They change it every year, if they made it 8/1 this year then almost every MD team would have went. Most teams have a few kids born in August 03 which is why they did not go. They need to make the change now before try outs start. Last year they made the change after rosters were set and set by using the 5/1 date from the previous year. Rec,Club,US Lacrosse,WSYL all need to get in tune with each other to move this sport forward together. Age or Grade, just get it right so all can play by one set of rules.

Aug 1 may let some players play but it will hardly get most MD teams with holdbacks to play.

Here is 2016 UA age list for 2019.( last year rising 9th graders) 24 players born before Aug. MD had a higher concentration of these holdbacks due to MIAA kids on team. I suspect it is much much more on the MD teams as obviously all holdbacks didnt make UA team.
It is sad when 34 out of 112 are heldback on UA team. So I suspect short of it being a grade based tournament MD top teams wont be competing or be competitive without their holdbacks.

2019's

1 5/99
1 9/99
2 11/99
1 12/99
2 1/00
1 2/00
3 3/00
3 4/00
2 5/00
1 6/00
7 7/00
10 8/00
16 9/00
13 10/00
7 11/00
9 12/00
6 1/01
9 2/01
5 3/01
6 4/01
4 5/01
3 7/01

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many of the World's Best Teams make the trip from Denver to Annapolis next week.

Naptown competition for high school teams ridiculous. If that isn't a world championship caliber lineup for 2021 - 2018, I don't know what is.

Where are Crabs?

Crabs rarely do a Hogan tournament. Crabs also end their season 4th of July weekend every year.
They might be the only Top teams not at this event.

We saw how good the Crabs were at NLF, Big 4 HHH, and Young Guns (with ringers). 3 tourneys and they are done. They are a bubble team for even getting an invite to Millon Championship (without ringers)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

never moving to 1/1 may move to 8/1

They change it every year, if they made it 8/1 this year then almost every MD team would have went. Most teams have a few kids born in August 03 which is why they did not go. They need to make the change now before try outs start. Last year they made the change after rosters were set and set by using the 5/1 date from the previous year. Rec,Club,US Lacrosse,WSYL all need to get in tune with each other to move this sport forward together. Age or Grade, just get it right so all can play by one set of rules.

1/1 is the new soccer standard used by most international teams. It is coming.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

never moving to 1/1 may move to 8/1

They change it every year, if they made it 8/1 this year then almost every MD team would have went. Most teams have a few kids born in August 03 which is why they did not go. They need to make the change now before try outs start. Last year they made the change after rosters were set and set by using the 5/1 date from the previous year. Rec,Club,US Lacrosse,WSYL all need to get in tune with each other to move this sport forward together. Age or Grade, just get it right so all can play by one set of rules.

1/1 is the new soccer standard used by most international teams. It is coming.

why would lacrosse follow soccer?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

never moving to 1/1 may move to 8/1

They change it every year, if they made it 8/1 this year then almost every MD team would have went. Most teams have a few kids born in August 03 which is why they did not go. They need to make the change now before try outs start. Last year they made the change after rosters were set and set by using the 5/1 date from the previous year. Rec,Club,US Lacrosse,WSYL all need to get in tune with each other to move this sport forward together. Age or Grade, just get it right so all can play by one set of rules.

1/1 is the new soccer standard used by most international teams. It is coming.

Soccer went to 1/1 to line up with the rest of the soccer world.... that date does not apply to lacrosse which has a strong grade based component to the established teams. There's nothing wrong with a date that aligns with grades, it just needs to be enforced as a strong date and not the suggestion that it is now because obviously people abuse the school system for their own athletic purposes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

never moving to 1/1 may move to 8/1

They change it every year, if they made it 8/1 this year then almost every MD team would have went. Most teams have a few kids born in August 03 which is why they did not go. They need to make the change now before try outs start. Last year they made the change after rosters were set and set by using the 5/1 date from the previous year. Rec,Club,US Lacrosse,WSYL all need to get in tune with each other to move this sport forward together. Age or Grade, just get it right so all can play by one set of rules.

1/1 is the new soccer standard used by most international teams. It is coming.

Soccer went to 1/1 to line up with the rest of the soccer world.... that date does not apply to lacrosse which has a strong grade based component to the established teams. There's nothing wrong with a date that aligns with grades, it just needs to be enforced as a strong date and not the suggestion that it is now because obviously people abuse the school system for their own athletic purposes.

Hockey went to 1/1. It is likely the date the just makes the most sense. Just looK at the year to see if they comply and you don't have to worry about months and days.

Millon tournament schedule is out API Hawks rematch from week one in hoco league

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon tournament schedule is out API Hawks rematch from week one in hoco league

Express has to be the overall favorite.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon tournament schedule is out API Hawks rematch from week one in hoco league

This isn't week 1 . Teams have come a long way since then. API had a very good showing last weekend. Don't expect the same result from week 1.
Express is the team to beat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

never moving to 1/1 may move to 8/1

They change it every year, if they made it 8/1 this year then almost every MD team would have went. Most teams have a few kids born in August 03 which is why they did not go. They need to make the change now before try outs start. Last year they made the change after rosters were set and set by using the 5/1 date from the previous year. Rec,Club,US Lacrosse,WSYL all need to get in tune with each other to move this sport forward together. Age or Grade, just get it right so all can play by one set of rules.

1/1 is the new soccer standard used by most international teams. It is coming.

Soccer went to 1/1 to line up with the rest of the soccer world.... that date does not apply to lacrosse which has a strong grade based component to the established teams. There's nothing wrong with a date that aligns with grades, it just needs to be enforced as a strong date and not the suggestion that it is now because obviously people abuse the school system for their own athletic purposes.

Hockey went to 1/1. It is likely the date the just makes the most sense. Just looK at the year to see if they comply and you don't have to worry about months and days.

I disagree... doesn't make sense for lacrosse and I really don't see anyone worrying about months, it's not hard

API 0-3 on the day at NXT. Goes to show you how weak the competition was at wsyl. Better go back to Denver if you want to win games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

never moving to 1/1 may move to 8/1

They change it every year, if they made it 8/1 this year then almost every MD team would have went. Most teams have a few kids born in August 03 which is why they did not go. They need to make the change now before try outs start. Last year they made the change after rosters were set and set by using the 5/1 date from the previous year. Rec,Club,US Lacrosse,WSYL all need to get in tune with each other to move this sport forward together. Age or Grade, just get it right so all can play by one set of rules.

1/1 is the new soccer standard used by most international teams. It is coming.

Soccer went to 1/1 to line up with the rest of the soccer world.... that date does not apply to lacrosse which has a strong grade based component to the established teams. There's nothing wrong with a date that aligns with grades, it just needs to be enforced as a strong date and not the suggestion that it is now because obviously people abuse the school system for their own athletic purposes.

Hockey went to 1/1. It is likely the date the just makes the most sense. Just looK at the year to see if they comply and you don't have to worry about months and days.

I disagree... doesn't make sense for lacrosse and I really don't see anyone worrying about months, it's not hard

Actually is is extremely confusing to most parents. The definition of U13 changes every year and to make things worse the day the definition changes is a moving target. U13 one year is U14 the next. Would it be easier to say this is a 2004 bracket or 2003 bracket for the birthyear and not have to worry about it. Most change the definition on 9/1, but some fall tournaments (Dicks TOC, others) still use the summer definition of U13. Somethimes the date is 5/1, sometimes it is 9/1, sometimes it is 12/1.

Birth year (1/1) is the way to go. Makes too much sense not to - as hockey and soccer have already figured out.

Einstein it's just bc of the kids two years older. Everyone knows that. Stop trying to make it sound like the MD teams who cheat are the best teams. Play kids your own age and you cannot match up.

Api/ diamondbacks is not having a good day but has nothing to with competition. Some of the team got back Wednesday and the rest got back Thursday . Then drive to philly to play a tournament these boys are tired if they had a week off like normal and come in fresh it would different results. Their some good teams out here . Api / Diamondbacks should pulled out but it was paid for .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Einstein it's just bc of the kids two years older. Everyone knows that. Stop trying to make it sound like the MD teams who cheat are the best teams. Play kids your own age and you cannot match up.

Einstein, stop holding your kids hand. Only the weak minded parents complain for their kids to have an even steaven game at everything they do. My kid is on the younger side and he loves playing kids at any age especially ones that are in his grade that might be 1 year older. His best friend is foot taller and 30lbs heavier than him.
Play in a different league, there are a lot to choose from. Until rules change this is the landscape and no clubs are breaking any rules. Cheating is hardly the case. Do you not know the rules in MD club lacrosse? you clearly do not. Einstein!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Api/ diamondbacks is not having a good day but has nothing to with competition. Some of the team got back Wednesday and the rest got back Thursday . Then drive to philly to play a tournament these boys are tired if they had a week off like normal and come in fresh it would different results. Their some good teams out here . Api / Diamondbacks should pulled out but it was paid for .

Are you drinking ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Api/ diamondbacks is not having a good day but has nothing to with competition. Some of the team got back Wednesday and the rest got back Thursday . Then drive to philly to play a tournament these boys are tired if they had a week off like normal and come in fresh it would different results. Their some good teams out here . Api / Diamondbacks should pulled out but it was paid for .

Everyone knows the altitude change makes it harder to play. They were used to more oxygen. Also, the time change coming back causes them to lose 3 hours of sleep like daylight savings inreverse. Also, they probably were wearing the shiny new wsyl cleats which game them blisters. The other teams had so many advantages.

More excuses coming from API first it was holdbacks now it's jet lag. What's next??? I guess wewill have to wait til next Saturday night for the next excuse. But just remember API ranked 3 in the world......

18-6

And when hawks puts 15 plus on them you will say...

When Hawks wants to play straight up age base none of their Holdbacks let's play but you won't because you can't win without them... hard talk for guys that are 2 years older . You should win

Yes Api / Diamondbacks are rank 3 in the world .. you can't say that because you can't compete in Age base tournament .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes Api / Diamondbacks are rank 3 in the world .. you can't say that because you can't compete in Age base tournament .

API and all of the other teams can't either without dropping kids from the roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Einstein it's just bc of the kids two years older. Everyone knows that. Stop trying to make it sound like the MD teams who cheat are the best teams. Play kids your own age and you cannot match up.

Einstein, stop holding your kids hand. Only the weak minded parents complain for their kids to have an even steaven game at everything they do. My kid is on the younger side and he loves playing kids at any age especially ones that are in his grade that might be 1 year older. His best friend is foot taller and 30lbs heavier than him.
Play in a different league, there are a lot to choose from. Until rules change this is the landscape and no clubs are breaking any rules. Cheating is hardly the case. Do you not know the rules in MD club lacrosse? you clearly do not. Einstein!

[lacrosse] post of the night...congrats! According to your logic, clubs exploiting the age based loophole aren't doing anything against the rules. Using that same logic, you might as well administer HGH or steroids to your son's fifteen year old 2022 teammates since it's not "breaking any rules". I'm guessing your an idiot simply based on your logic, however your writing confirms it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More excuses coming from API first it was holdbacks now it's jet lag. What's next??? I guess wewill have to wait til next Saturday night for the next excuse. But just remember API ranked 3 in the world......

I heard one of the players had an overly aggressive shampoo girl at Cartoon Cuts and wasn't his self this weekend.

If the grade based competition does not fit within your ethical arena, then simply do not have your son participate in the grade based system. There are plenty of tournaments that have the age based categories that clubs can participate in other than the WSYL. But to participate in something and then complain about that system when you know the rules up front is a cop out by adults. If you know the rules going in and agree to play, then STFU. You have no basis for your tired, sorry whining.

And just to be perfectly clear in an "attempt" to stop your whining and complaining about the Hawks and their ages, Hawks have 19 of their 21 boys on their roster are age 13 right now!!! The 2 that are 14 year olds just turned 14 this spring/summer and weren't even on the team last year, and these boys are also two of the smallest on the team. To continue to state the facts, Hawks beat API several times last year (without those kids) so there goes your major excuse. So you better find another excuse like "the altitude" or "jet lag" like you tried the other day. We all know which API parent is posting these excuses, just stop and let your kid enjoy playing against the top competition of all the age based teams (which is the rule of the league and tournaments your team chooses to play in). Or the other option is, go find a team who plays in a different league! Remember, after next year your son will be playing grade based for the rest of his HS and hopefully college years so stop being that "helicopter parent".

meant to type "Grade Based" teams in the 2nd to last sentance....but I am sure that you will whine about this mistyping too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

meant to type "Grade Based" teams in the 2nd to last sentance....but I am sure that you will whine about this mistyping too

Not the same parent you were commenting to..I agree with you. Yes the travel and conditions play a factor but should NOT be used as excuses. The is 1 REASON why this team hasn't been as competitive...this team loses games because they get are OUTCOACHED. This week most games lost by one goal, fault the coaching. The kids have developed...the game plan hasn't. It's helicopter coaching that holds these kids back from winning and playing to their potential.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And just to be perfectly clear in an "attempt" to stop your whining and complaining about the Hawks and their ages, Hawks have 19 of their 21 boys on their roster are age 13 right now!!! The 2 that are 14 year olds just turned 14 this spring/summer and weren't even on the team last year, and these boys are also two of the smallest on the team. To continue to state the facts, Hawks beat API several times last year (without those kids) so there goes your major excuse. So you better find another excuse like "the altitude" or "jet lag" like you tried the other day. We all know which API parent is posting these excuses, just stop and let your kid enjoy playing against the top competition of all the age based teams (which is the rule of the league and tournaments your team chooses to play in). Or the other option is, go find a team who plays in a different league! Remember, after next year your son will be playing grade based for the rest of his HS and hopefully college years so stop being that "helicopter parent".

The Hawks aren't good because they are older, They are good because they convinced the best kids from a better team (cannons) to join their pretty good team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

meant to type "Grade Based" teams in the 2nd to last sentance....but I am sure that you will whine about this mistyping too

Not the same parent you were commenting to..I agree with you. Yes the travel and conditions play a factor but should NOT be used as excuses. The is 1 REASON why this team hasn't been as competitive...this team loses games because they get are OUTCOACHED. This week most games lost by one goal, fault the coaching. The kids have developed...the game plan hasn't. It's helicopter coaching that holds these kids back from winning and playing to their potential.

Totally agree getting out coached.

Look, can't we all just agree that API is the best on age, slightly above average, zone defense having, horribly coached team at 2022? (when they are well rested and not jet lagged).

Yes before your holdbacks you could not beat or compete with API.you did beat Api last year still with holdbacks . Play api straight up and see what happens ..yes my son after next year will play grade base but half your team should playing high school grade base after this summer..

so let me get this straight #3 team in the world goes 1-4 is a lesser tournament with their holdbacks playing in a lessser fielded tournament. I can only imagine what will happen when they face the Hawks at Millons tournaments.#18-6 #apihasholdbacks

If the grade based competition does not fit within your ethical arena, then simply do not have your son participate in the grade based system. There are plenty of tournaments that have the age based categories that clubs can participate in other than the WSYL. But to participate in something and then complain about that system when you know the rules up front is a cop out by adults. If you know the rules going in and agree to play, then STFU. You have no basis for your tired, sorry whining.

Now if API too has a holdback(s), then you are really a waste of space. Maybe you can add a safety pin to your hat so no one will cheer too loud for their team when they play the high priests of API.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes before your holdbacks you could not beat or compete with API.you did beat Api last year still with holdbacks . Play api straight up and see what happens ..yes my son after next year will play grade base but half your team should playing high school grade base after this summer..

#apihasholdbacks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

meant to type "Grade Based" teams in the 2nd to last sentance....but I am sure that you will whine about this mistyping too

Not the same parent you were commenting to..I agree with you. Yes the travel and conditions play a factor but should NOT be used as excuses. The is 1 REASON why this team hasn't been as competitive...this team loses games because they get are OUTCOACHED. This week most games lost by one goal, fault the coaching. The kids have developed...the game plan hasn't. It's helicopter coaching that holds these kids back from winning and playing to their potential.

Totally agree getting out coached.

I ran into API HC last fall at Lax World and he told me he was a very good coach................for about 30 minutes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes before your holdbacks you could not beat or compete with API.you did beat Api last year still with holdbacks . Play api straight up and see what happens ..yes my son after next year will play grade base but half your team should playing high school grade base after this summer..

Are you still talking about 3rd grade lacrosse? Dude you have serious issues and jealously. Not one person on here takes you serious and it is very entertaining, #apihasholdbacks

Last full week of the 2022 season. A lot of good lacrosse to come, good luck to all teams. These kids deserve some rest. They have put a lot into this season.

ps
#apihasholdbacks

I think there are a lot of kids and parents looking forward to seeing some real good lacrosse this weekend. There are some teams missing and some other teams that you question but in the end the out come should give you and ideal of who is the top teams with the rules that lacrosse allows.
Personally I would like to see real age based teams with the Jan 1 cut off and for purposes of players you could allow a 2 year group in 1 age groupin but for what has already been set this will be the best of the best. As long as non of the teams have added any players after the cut of date.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so let me get this straight #3 team in the world goes 1-4 is a lesser tournament with their holdbacks playing in a lessser fielded tournament. I can only imagine what will happen when they face the Hawks at Millons tournaments.#18-6 #apihasholdbacks

Was that really the Diamondbacks that went 1-4 at NXT or someone copying there initials

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so let me get this straight #3 team in the world goes 1-4 is a lesser tournament with their holdbacks playing in a lessser fielded tournament. I can only imagine what will happen when they face the Hawks at Millons tournaments.#18-6 #apihasholdbacks

Was that really the Diamondbacks that went 1-4 at NXT or someone copying there initials

Tired...jet lagged....too much fiber.....too little fiber.

18-6

That was them and full team. The competition @ NXT was impressive I have to say. Some of the teams they faced had excellent defenses better then what they generally encountered at WSYL.

That's because WYSL is a joke. NXT is just an average tourney.

No the nxt was average . The competition at world's was better but 2 teams that shouldn't been at the world's .. the boys didn't show up at nxt bottom line...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon tournament schedule is out API Hawks rematch from week one in hoco league

Watch out for BLC in Millon tournament. They beat Hawks in finals. Picked up some blue chip players that didn't play with them in Hoco. Staying below the radar this summer. They are healthy and rested.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon tournament schedule is out API Hawks rematch from week one in hoco league

Watch out for BLC in Millon tournament. They beat Hawks in finals. Picked up some blue chip players that didn't play with them in Hoco. Staying below the radar this summer. They are healthy and rested.

And it is both teams first game on Saturday. Think that was by design, to get it played early.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon tournament schedule is out API Hawks rematch from week one in hoco league

Watch out for BLC in Millon tournament. They beat Hawks in finals. Picked up some blue chip players that didn't play with them in Hoco. Staying below the radar this summer. They are healthy and rested.

Hawks could also be loading up on a few "guest" players to add to their roster. Wouldn't put it past them. anything to win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon tournament schedule is out API Hawks rematch from week one in hoco league

Watch out for BLC in Millon tournament. They beat Hawks in finals. Picked up some blue chip players that didn't play with them in Hoco. Staying below the radar this summer. They are healthy and rested.

Hawks could also be loading up on a few "guest" players to add to their roster. Wouldn't put it past them. anything to win.

. Hawks not known to use guess players but the will make attempts to rob other clubs of strong players during tryout time.

Nice try was at both nxt and wsyl. The nxt was better with some teams loaded with players that aged out of WSYJ. Stop trying rationalize your poor performance at WSYL.

Will be very sad to see teams skirt the rules and add players. If this happens it will make this tournament the ball of S that we see out there in the lacrosse world. I would personally rather teams then participate in US lacrosse stuff so you at least know people are not cheating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will be very sad to see teams skirt the rules and add players. If this happens it will make this tournament the ball of S that we see out there in the lacrosse world. I would personally rather teams then participate in US lacrosse stuff so you at least know people are not cheating.

I thought teams had to submit rosters and proof of grade months ago. Hopefully they will police at the start of each game and disqualify anyone that tries to pull fast one.

If you want to really drive M Millon crazy and pi*s him off, have all of the reams play zone defense. Maybe not the entire game but switch from man/man to zone and back.

you dumbness do know that rosters had to be in months ago for this tournament and that Millon is not playing that [lacrosse] with any teams

Didn't have poor performance WSYL... I thought you couldn't change roster for Million ...

ROSTER VALIDATION

The rising 8th National 2022 championship is trying to ensure we don’t have “super” teams or all-star teams made exclusively for this championship event. All teams are 2022 based and must be part of team that competes year round.

In order to be considered for this Championship the club director must do the following.

Submit a complete roster by Dec 1, 2016. Roster must include players number, full name, school, and birthdate.
Provide a copy of the players report card from the 2016 fall school year.
Provide proof of your spring league (you will need their records for seeding purposes).
Provide a list of all fall 2016/spring 2017 tournaments, and summer schedule.
Pay tournament non refundable deposit $1,000

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon tournament schedule is out API Hawks rematch from week one in hoco league

Watch out for BLC in Millon tournament. They beat Hawks in finals. Picked up some blue chip players that didn't play with them in Hoco. Staying below the radar this summer. They are healthy and rested.

Hawks could also be loading up on a few "guest" players to add to their roster. Wouldn't put it past them. anything to win.

18-6 diamonback daddy/coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No they are on the 2021 koopers team.

If Petro's sons were playing as guest players for Crabs 2022 team then they were playing down. Both sons play for Koopers 2021.

Both boys have been playing up for years now. They are 7th grade students. The Koopers 2021 team, which originated some years ago with a core group that played at MLC were combined with kids from the now defunct Fearless club to form a 2021 team. By my count, I believe that 5-6 Koopers 2021 kids are enrolled in the 7th grade with the remainder 8th graders. It is an interesting team and well coached. They are 2022's and as "guests" were playing at an age/grade appropriate level. They are prodigies -- that can play against ever greater/older competition and very effectively. It was fun watching them compete at Young Guns this weekend.

Petro's kids are very good players but hardly prodigies. Hawks made them look like regular 2022 AA players today.

The attack Petro ran his mouth all weekend like he was the greatest ever

Petro boys jumping on the Duke's Nationals team this weekend at Naptown. I bet that really pisses off all the Duke's parents that pay all that money for practices and drive up and down the east coast to get their kids above the travel/cut line, then get bumped for these guest players. That's Duke's for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ROSTER VALIDATION

The rising 8th National 2022 championship is trying to ensure we don’t have “super” teams or all-star teams made exclusively for this championship event. All teams are 2022 based and must be part of team that competes year round.

In order to be considered for this Championship the club director must do the following.

Submit a complete roster by Dec 1, 2016. Roster must include players number, full name, school, and birthdate.
Provide a copy of the players report card from the 2016 fall school year.
Provide proof of your spring league (you will need their records for seeding purposes).
Provide a list of all fall 2016/spring 2017 tournaments, and summer schedule.
Pay tournament non refundable deposit $1,000

Legit! Now let's see if they enforce it. Hopefully they do. I would love to see any cheaters get disqualified.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon tournament schedule is out API Hawks rematch from week one in hoco league

Watch out for BLC in Millon tournament. They beat Hawks in finals. Picked up some blue chip players that didn't play with them in Hoco. Staying below the radar this summer. They are healthy and rested.

Hawks could also be loading up on a few "guest" players to add to their roster. Wouldn't put it past them. anything to win.

. Hawks not known to use guess players but the will make attempts to rob other clubs of strong players during tryout time.

By inviting them to tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No the nxt was average . The competition at world's was better but 2 teams that shouldn't been at the world's .. the boys didn't show up at nxt bottom line...

It happens. These are still kids. Good luck this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Millon tournament schedule is out API Hawks rematch from week one in hoco league

Watch out for BLC in Millon tournament. They beat Hawks in finals. Picked up some blue chip players that didn't play with them in Hoco. Staying below the radar this summer. They are healthy and rested.

Hawks could also be loading up on a few "guest" players to add to their roster. Wouldn't put it past them. anything to win.

. Hawks not known to use guess players but the will make attempts to rob other clubs of strong players during tryout time.

By inviting them to tryouts?

Yes, they are invited to tryouts. Hawks got a few decent Cannons players in their program last year at tryouts. Nothing wrong with inviting kids from other teams, just have to do it the right way and be open about it. Teams need to realize that good/decent players will be approached by other teams. And no, I have no connection with Hawks.

Dukes beat Hawks 10- 4 today at naptown..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dukes beat Hawks 10- 4 today at naptown..

Dukes Nationals (plus a few ringers) looked exceptionally good today. About 1/2 the kids were ones that paid into the Dukes Nationals program and the other half were guests brought in to get the 'ship (including the Petro boys).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dukes beat Hawks 10- 4 today at naptown..

That's a beat down. They got what they deserved. Where are all the 18-6 posters now? They can be a nasty bunch. I am sure they will come up with lots of excuses. Other than maybe 2018, it looks like Hawks has not fared well this week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dukes beat Hawks 10- 4 today at naptown..

Dukes Nationals (plus a few ringers) looked exceptionally good today. About 1/2 the kids were ones that paid into the Dukes Nationals program and the other half were guests brought in to get the 'ship (including the Petro boys).

Whatever helps you sleep tonight Hawks dad. All those kids were already on Dukes. The twins played for Dukes earlier this summer also. This team wasn't just put together to beat you guys. But they sure did beat you pretty easily for a team that doesn't practice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No they are on the 2021 koopers team.

If Petro's sons were playing as guest players for Crabs 2022 team then they were playing down. Both sons play for Koopers 2021.

Both boys have been playing up for years now. They are 7th grade students. The Koopers 2021 team, which originated some years ago with a core group that played at MLC were combined with kids from the now defunct Fearless club to form a 2021 team. By my count, I believe that 5-6 Koopers 2021 kids are enrolled in the 7th grade with the remainder 8th graders. It is an interesting team and well coached. They are 2022's and as "guests" were playing at an age/grade appropriate level. They are prodigies -- that can play against ever greater/older competition and very effectively. It was fun watching them compete at Young Guns this weekend.

Petro's kids are very good players but hardly prodigies. Hawks made them look like regular 2022 AA players today.

The attack Petro ran his mouth all weekend like he was the greatest ever

Petro boys jumping on the Duke's Nationals team this weekend at Naptown. I bet that really pisses off all the Duke's parents that pay all that money for practices and drive up and down the east coast to get their kids above the travel/cut line, then get bumped for these guest players. That's Duke's for you.

Wrong. They have been on the team all summer. Beat Hawks asses 10-4. That's Dukes for you.

I hope your son had a good game today or you might as well not show up this weekend. There will be scapegoats
. Don't expect to play this weekend and tryouts are coming.

Good luck. Lol

What other tournaments did that Dukes play in this summer?

Great job by the Dukes. Really top flight group of kids who mesh well. Off to Millen.

Hawks Dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dukes beat Hawks 10- 4 today at naptown..

That's a beat down. They got what they deserved. Where are all the 18-6 posters now? They can be a nasty bunch. I am sure they will come up with lots of excuses. Other than maybe 2018, it looks like Hawks has not fared well this week.

A team of all-stars from 2022 and 2021 teams beats a single 2022 team. Congratulations.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What other tournaments did that Dukes play in this summer?

I think you can safely say this exact line-up has never played together before. The Duke National team changes their line-up weekly depending on what the real club teams the kids play for are doing. Whatever teams that aren't in a tournament, those kids are available to play for Dukes.

How many tournaments did that particular group of kids play in together for dukes? Lots of different helmets out there. Petro's kids played on 3 teams in as many weeks. Clearly took an all star team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What other tournaments did that Dukes play in this summer?

NCAA tournament. Dukes team played very well and lost to Express in the semi final.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dukes beat Hawks 10- 4 today at naptown..

That's a beat down. They got what they deserved. Where are all the 18-6 posters now? They can be a nasty bunch. I am sure they will come up with lots of excuses. Other than maybe 2018, it looks like Hawks has not fared well this week.

We take it you hate the entire Hawks program. Excuses is for those teams that are imploding within and jump ship to play with other teams to have a chance at winning. Making it to a championship game is most teams books is faring well. Lets take a look at the entire Hawks program this year and see just how much winning goes on in that program. Haters hate and excuses are for losers. So the 18-6 poster still stands for jerk offs like you. 18-6 will never go away for you.

Dukes had a lot of terrific players this weekend, its a good thing because the API players really needed help.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What other tournaments did that Dukes play in this summer?

NATIONAL 175 - BEST OF THE BEST - 6/30 - 2021 division - 3rd place
2017 NCAA Future Champions Lacrosse Tournament - 2022 division - Tied for 2nd place - lost to LI Express.
2016 [lacrosse]'S Sporting Goods Tournament of Champions presented by Pasco County - 5-8th place - eliminated in 2nd round.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What other tournaments did that Dukes play in this summer?

NATIONAL 175 - BEST OF THE BEST - 6/30 - 2021 division - 3rd place
2017 NCAA Future Champions Lacrosse Tournament - 2022 division - Tied for 2nd place - lost to LI Express.
2016 [lacrosse]'S Sporting Goods Tournament of Champions presented by Pasco County - 5-8th place - eliminated in 2nd round.

Where all of the players that played in Naptown present in these tournaments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dukes beat Hawks 10- 4 today at naptown..

That's a beat down. They got what they deserved. Where are all the 18-6 posters now? They can be a nasty bunch. I am sure they will come up with lots of excuses. Other than maybe 2018, it looks like Hawks has not fared well this week.

A team of all-stars from 2022 and 2021 teams beats a single 2022 team. Congratulations.

Same can be said about the Hawks also. Hawks got beat at their own game of stacking kids from other clubs and can't handle it. See ya
Saturday.

It seems to me the Dukes have it figured out... Invite really good kids to play lacrosse together and have fun doing it. What a unique and novel idea...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dukes beat Hawks 10- 4 today at naptown..

Dukes Nationals (plus a few ringers) looked exceptionally good today. About 1/2 the kids were ones that paid into the Dukes Nationals program and the other half were guests brought in to get the 'ship (including the Petro boys).

Whatever helps you sleep tonight Hawks dad. All those kids were already on Dukes. The twins played for Dukes earlier this summer also. This team wasn't just put together to beat you guys. But they sure did beat you pretty easily for a team that doesn't practice.

I'm sure Petro drives his boys up and down the east coast for the Dukes clinics and pays for all the Dukes clinics to get his boys above the travel cut line so they can have the privaledge for playing for the Dukes team that week.

You have to look at it like this. The Dukes team a select team and in the reality of it they should never lose a game to any team that is a regular club team which I think they lost to BLC at sometime this year.
Hawks may have hold backs and way have taken players from other teams and states but the team you play is their team and I think that matters more than anything. No even a Hawas parent but when you see select teams have to add more fire power to beat you then they should be proud.
This weekend will prove who is really the best. Go luck to all the MD teams.

Yep, Hawks met their match today. The better side won today. I went on the Hoco website tonight and saw 18-6 and all is well now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dukes beat Hawks 10- 4 today at naptown..

Dukes Nationals (plus a few ringers) looked exceptionally good today. About 1/2 the kids were ones that paid into the Dukes Nationals program and the other half were guests brought in to get the 'ship (including the Petro boys).

Whatever helps you sleep tonight Hawks dad. All those kids were already on Dukes. The twins played for Dukes earlier this summer also. This team wasn't just put together to beat you guys. But they sure did beat you pretty easily for a team that doesn't practice.

I'm sure Petro drives his boys up and down the east coast for the Dukes clinics and pays for all the Dukes clinics to get his boys above the travel cut line so they can have the privaledge for playing for the Dukes team that week.

You obviously have no clue how the team works. Guess it would be too hard to just congratulate a group of boys that with the exception of 2 are on age 2022 players that never practice for going out there and playing as well as they did the last two days. I know you hate it but you got run off the field today. No one goes to all the camps. It's not possible with playing for your own club. And there are no camps in the summer.

As another poster said. What a novel idea to have really good kids together to play and have fun. The coaches are great. The boys are all really good kids on and off the field. God forbid they have some fun. Sorry you're butt hurt. You're still a great team. Everyone loses sometime.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dukes beat Hawks 10- 4 today at naptown..

That's a beat down. They got what they deserved. Where are all the 18-6 posters now? They can be a nasty bunch. I am sure they will come up with lots of excuses. Other than maybe 2018, it looks like Hawks has not fared well this week.

A team of all-stars from 2022 and 2021 teams beats a single 2022 team. Congratulations.

Same can be said about the Hawks also. Hawks got beat at their own game of stacking kids from other clubs and can't handle it. See ya
Saturday.

Hawks built a team from tryouts last august and never change it. Kids deciding to play somewhere else at the end of the year is not stacking a team. taking the best players from 7+ teams that all play on other teams most of the time is stacking a team.

Looks like excuses coming Hawks losing today 10-4 . Excuses are like assholes everyone has one . Hawks no more top dogs . Will not be undeafted this year it's gotta hurt. Lost at their own tournament.

I look at 18 -6 first game of season then looked 10-4 end of season . Ouch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep, Hawks met their match today. The better side won today. I went on the Hoco website tonight and saw 18-6 and all is well now.

It will be great to see the rematch at the Millon 2022 championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep, Hawks met their match today. The better side won today. I went on the Hoco website tonight and saw 18-6 and all is well now.

It shows how good the Hoco League really is when you take some of the best players from weaker 2022 and 2021 Elite teams and they can beat the best 2022 team.

Hawks just lost to Dukes. Next game Hawks play is with API. I can see 18-6 happening again. Good luck to both teams. This may be the end of API as kids will be trying out for other teams.

Both the Hawks and Diamondbacks organizations seem pretty toxic at this age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I look at 18 -6 first game of season then looked 10-4 end of season . Ouch

Those are two different teams. How can you compare a win vs Diamondbacks to a loss vs an all-star team made up of kids from 7 different teams put together to beat the Hawks for one game? The only similarity is that your kid played in both games and you get to pound your chest anonymously for a couple days. You're probably the same person that complains about holdbacks, but I guess it's ok if it's on an all-star team your kid is on. There's a reason no Hawks kids participate with Duke's but Diamondbacks feel the need to do so (including their coach).

Duke's should never lose a game and should win most games handily. It does sound like a lot of fun, unless you are the local kid that gets bumped for a "Guest" player. What is the API connection to Dukes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I look at 18 -6 first game of season then looked 10-4 end of season . Ouch

Those are two different teams. How can you compare a win vs Diamondbacks to a loss vs an all-star team made up of kids from 7 different teams put together to beat the Hawks for one game? The only similarity is that your kid played in both games and you get to pound your chest anonymously for a couple days. You're probably the same person that complains about holdbacks, but I guess it's ok if it's on an all-star team your kid is on. There's a reason no Hawks kids participate with Duke's but Diamondbacks feel the need to do so (including their coach).

The real reason is with the four practices a week plus film study they Hawks kids wouldn't have time to play for Dukes.

How many of those kids will burn out in 2 years? I walked by their tent yesterday and listened to the coach talking to the team. I almost spit out my drink it was so ridiculous. Those poor kids. I know they win a lot but do they have a life outside of lacrosse? Must have sucked to get worked by a team of kids that play together once every other month or so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I look at 18 -6 first game of season then looked 10-4 end of season . Ouch

Those are two different teams. How can you compare a win vs Diamondbacks to a loss vs an all-star team made up of kids from 7 different teams put together to beat the Hawks for one game? The only similarity is that your kid played in both games and you get to pound your chest anonymously for a couple days. You're probably the same person that complains about holdbacks, but I guess it's ok if it's on an all-star team your kid is on. There's a reason no Hawks kids participate with Duke's but Diamondbacks feel the need to do so (including their coach).

The real reason is with the four practices a week plus film study they Hawks kids wouldn't have time to play for Dukes.

How many of those kids will burn out in 2 years? I walked by their tent yesterday and listened to the coach talking to the team. I almost spit out my drink it was so ridiculous. Those poor kids. I know they win a lot but do they have a life outside of lacrosse? Must have sucked to get worked by a team of kids that play together once every other month or so.

Im sure it did hurt to lose. Only loss for that team all year. Losing to an All Star team is hardly enough to go bashing the coaches and kids that have out worked every other team and coaches out there all year. Walking by the tent? Stalking the tent? Poor kids? Burnt Out? Your entire statement reaks of jealousy and envy. Are these same poor kids going to get burnt out playing football, basketball,with their friends? API friends I mean. Or swimming and having fun the rest of the summer.
When your kid try out for Hawk team in a few weeks because he has to, and doesnt make it. It will be because of his Daddy. Character counts from the parents right down to the kids. Its part of the selection process when a team gets built. And he will have to because your team is a complete joke and employing from within and will not be able to field a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I look at 18 -6 first game of season then looked 10-4 end of season . Ouch

Those are two different teams. How can you compare a win vs Diamondbacks to a loss vs an all-star team made up of kids from 7 different teams put together to beat the Hawks for one game? The only similarity is that your kid played in both games and you get to pound your chest anonymously for a couple days. You're probably the same person that complains about holdbacks, but I guess it's ok if it's on an all-star team your kid is on. There's a reason no Hawks kids participate with Duke's but Diamondbacks feel the need to do so (including their coach).

The real reason is with the four practices a week plus film study they Hawks kids wouldn't have time to play for Dukes.

How many of those kids will burn out in 2 years? I walked by their tent yesterday and listened to the coach talking to the team. I almost spit out my drink it was so ridiculous. Those poor kids. I know they win a lot but do they have a life outside of lacrosse? Must have sucked to get worked by a team of kids that play together once every other month or so.

Like I posted yesterday, I hope the parents and players are ready for the weekend because even though it was only one loss, their will be fallout. If the Coach feels your player was the reason they lost, don't expect him to play this weekend. Also might want to try out for other clubs. After all, the Coach has reached out to plenty of replacements already except lefty attackmen of course

We were jetlagged that is why we finished 1-4 at Naptown. Oh wait, we weren't 1-4, we made it to the championship game for the 4th straight summer tourney. Hopefully the altitude in Belair won't be too much for the dbags.

18-6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I look at 18 -6 first game of season then looked 10-4 end of season . Ouch

Those are two different teams. How can you compare a win vs Diamondbacks to a loss vs an all-star team made up of kids from 7 different teams put together to beat the Hawks for one game? The only similarity is that your kid played in both games and you get to pound your chest anonymously for a couple days. You're probably the same person that complains about holdbacks, but I guess it's ok if it's on an all-star team your kid is on. There's a reason no Hawks kids participate with Duke's but Diamondbacks feel the need to do so (including their coach).

The real reason is with the four practices a week plus film study they Hawks kids wouldn't have time to play for Dukes.

How many of those kids will burn out in 2 years? I walked by their tent yesterday and listened to the coach talking to the team. I almost spit out my drink it was so ridiculous. Those poor kids. I know they win a lot but do they have a life outside of lacrosse? Must have sucked to get worked by a team of kids that play together once every other month or so.

Like I posted yesterday, I hope the parents and players are ready for the weekend because even though it was only one loss, their will be fallout. If the Coach feels your player was the reason they lost, don't expect him to play this weekend. Also might want to try out for other clubs. After all, the Coach has reached out to plenty of replacements already except lefty attackmen of course

Is this statement based on first hand knowledge or did you just stay at a Holiday Inn?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I look at 18 -6 first game of season then looked 10-4 end of season . Ouch

Those are two different teams. How can you compare a win vs Diamondbacks to a loss vs an all-star team made up of kids from 7 different teams put together to beat the Hawks for one game? The only similarity is that your kid played in both games and you get to pound your chest anonymously for a couple days. You're probably the same person that complains about holdbacks, but I guess it's ok if it's on an all-star team your kid is on. There's a reason no Hawks kids participate with Duke's but Diamondbacks feel the need to do so (including their coach).

The real reason is with the four practices a week plus film study they Hawks kids wouldn't have time to play for Dukes.

How many of those kids will burn out in 2 years? I walked by their tent yesterday and listened to the coach talking to the team. I almost spit out my drink it was so ridiculous. Those poor kids. I know they win a lot but do they have a life outside of lacrosse? Must have sucked to get worked by a team of kids that play together once every other month or so.

Im sure it did hurt to lose. Only loss for that team all year. Losing to an All Star team is hardly enough to go bashing the coaches and kids that have out worked every other team and coaches out there all year. Walking by the tent? Stalking the tent? Poor kids? Burnt Out? Your entire statement reaks of jealousy and envy. Are these same poor kids going to get burnt out playing football, basketball,with their friends? API friends I mean. Or swimming and having fun the rest of the summer.
When your kid try out for Hawk team in a few weeks because he has to, and doesnt make it. It will be because of his Daddy. Character counts from the parents right down to the kids. Its part of the selection process when a team gets built. And he will have to because your team is a complete joke and employing from within and will not be able to field a team.

Umm...Their tent was literally on the walkway from the fields to where the food and bathroom were. No one was stalking them. But it sounded like Stuart Smalley telling the boys they're good enough, they're smart enough and gosh darnnit, people like them. You know where the cutters are. Have faith that your teammates will be there. This is why we put so much time in......Good grief, it was a meditation session.

And no, my son would never tryout for hawks. He enjoys playing other sports and would rather not spend 4-5 days a week playing lacrosse year round. And guess what? He still was good enough to start on the team that just kicked your kids asses.

Get back in the film room Hawks. Find those weak links.

Hawks lost and the coach is already trying to get new kids to the tryouts to replace some of the team ... That is sad but they have to be able to drive to practice .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I look at 18 -6 first game of season then looked 10-4 end of season . Ouch

Those are two different teams. How can you compare a win vs Diamondbacks to a loss vs an all-star team made up of kids from 7 different teams put together to beat the Hawks for one game? The only similarity is that your kid played in both games and you get to pound your chest anonymously for a couple days. You're probably the same person that complains about holdbacks, but I guess it's ok if it's on an all-star team your kid is on. There's a reason no Hawks kids participate with Duke's but Diamondbacks feel the need to do so (including their coach).

The real reason is with the four practices a week plus film study they Hawks kids wouldn't have time to play for Dukes.

How many of those kids will burn out in 2 years? I walked by their tent yesterday and listened to the coach talking to the team. I almost spit out my drink it was so ridiculous. Those poor kids. I know they win a lot but do they have a life outside of lacrosse? Must have sucked to get worked by a team of kids that play together once every other month or so.

Like I posted yesterday, I hope the parents and players are ready for the weekend because even though it was only one loss, their will be fallout. If the Coach feels your player was the reason they lost, don't expect him to play this weekend. Also might want to try out for other clubs. After all, the Coach has reached out to plenty of replacements already except lefty attackmen of course

Is this statement based on first hand knowledge or did you just stay at a Holiday Inn?

1st hand knowledge and history. We all know one another. Our kids are teammates in other sports. We get the calls from the coach about moving. Yeah, come out and practice 5 times a week and sacrifice so many things while the coach is already recruiting your replacement and gloating about it. Where do I sign up?

It's ok. Hawks has 4 more holdbacks coming to the 2022 team next year. This is 1st hand knowledge also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I look at 18 -6 first game of season then looked 10-4 end of season . Ouch

Those are two different teams. How can you compare a win vs Diamondbacks to a loss vs an all-star team made up of kids from 7 different teams put together to beat the Hawks for one game? The only similarity is that your kid played in both games and you get to pound your chest anonymously for a couple days. You're probably the same person that complains about holdbacks, but I guess it's ok if it's on an all-star team your kid is on. There's a reason no Hawks kids participate with Duke's but Diamondbacks feel the need to do so (including their coach).

The real reason is with the four practices a week plus film study they Hawks kids wouldn't have time to play for Dukes.

How many of those kids will burn out in 2 years? I walked by their tent yesterday and listened to the coach talking to the team. I almost spit out my drink it was so ridiculous. Those poor kids. I know they win a lot but do they have a life outside of lacrosse? Must have sucked to get worked by a team of kids that play together once every other month or so.

Im sure it did hurt to lose. Only loss for that team all year. Losing to an All Star team is hardly enough to go bashing the coaches and kids that have out worked every other team and coaches out there all year. Walking by the tent? Stalking the tent? Poor kids? Burnt Out? Your entire statement reaks of jealousy and envy. Are these same poor kids going to get burnt out playing football, basketball,with their friends? API friends I mean. Or swimming and having fun the rest of the summer.
When your kid try out for Hawk team in a few weeks because he has to, and doesnt make it. It will be because of his Daddy. Character counts from the parents right down to the kids. Its part of the selection process when a team gets built. And he will have to because your team is a complete joke and employing from within and will not be able to field a team.

Umm...Their tent was literally on the walkway from the fields to where the food and bathroom were. No one was stalking them. But it sounded like Stuart Smalley telling the boys they're good enough, they're smart enough and gosh darnnit, people like them. You know where the cutters are. Have faith that your teammates will be there. This is why we put so much time in......Good grief, it was a meditation session.

And no, my son would never tryout for hawks. He enjoys playing other sports and would rather not spend 4-5 days a week playing lacrosse year round. And guess what? He still was good enough to start on the team that just kicked your kids asses.

Get back in the film room Hawks. Find those weak links.

HAHA.. Classic réponse from a parent who has been hating on a team for years and is bitter. Not 1 API player made any contribution in that game. If any player from hawks wanted to play for Dukes your boy would be on the sideline.
Thanks for confirming exactly who you are too. Dummy.
The will be no help from the Dukes this weekend.

Interesting Hawks 2018 win naptown with out of state players and 2022 Hawks also have out of state players yet they all cry about Dukes 2022 team the past 2 days.

Once again who are the out of state players for Hawks 2022? One Florida kid who has been on the team for years has been injured. Give a number or shut up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting Hawks 2018 win naptown with out of state players and 2022 Hawks also have out of state players yet they all cry about Dukes 2022 team the past 2 days.

An anonymous posters on BOTC make up lies about Hawks teams......

FCA 2022 and Crabs 2022 are in the running to get the Petro boys as well as a solid attackman and goalie from Koopers 2021. Both those teams need saving, but who will get them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting Hawks 2018 win naptown with out of state players and 2022 Hawks also have out of state players yet they all cry about Dukes 2022 team the past 2 days.

18-6 Diamondbag coach/parent

Hawks are mad because they played another team with a couple of holdbacks and got their [lacrosse] kick.. just think if other teams had as many holdbacks Hawks wouldn't win ...Hawks have Sat prep courses this weekend if they don't well at the course they will just reclass so they get a head. My boy is so smart

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting Hawks 2018 win naptown with out of state players and 2022 Hawks also have out of state players yet they all cry about Dukes 2022 team the past 2 days.

I haven't heard any crying. Mostly congratulations on putting together a solid all-star team.

Breaking News! High School Level Club Teams have kids from different states on them.

Great recruiting beats great player development at this age every time. Your team gets better while the other team gets weaker. Bigger, faster, stronger can't be developed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Breaking News! High School Level Club Teams have kids from different states on them.

Many if not most of the top teams in Maryland draw kids from VA, PA, DE, and DC. If you are complaining about out of state kids, you probably are hoping your 3rd grade rec team was still intact. These out of state kids pay full price for the year and pay more in travel and time. The kids are motivated and the parents can afford it.

Guest players are just hired guns that don't pay the club fees and the coaches are basically admitting their paying team is not getting the job done and want the win more than they want to give the paying kids playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2022 and Crabs 2022 are in the running to get the Petro boys as well as a solid attackman and goalie from Koopers 2021. Both those teams need saving, but who will get them?

My money is on all of the them going to and playing with FCA '22

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2022 and Crabs 2022 are in the running to get the Petro boys as well as a solid attackman and goalie from Koopers 2021. Both those teams need saving, but who will get them?

My money is on all of the them going to and playing with FCA '22

I believe Petro boys will reclass and go play at the 2023 level next year. Their dad is a big fan of reclassed players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2022 and Crabs 2022 are in the running to get the Petro boys as well as a solid attackman and goalie from Koopers 2021. Both those teams need saving, but who will get them?

My money is on all of the them going to and playing with FCA '22

Don't be surprised if they don't end up playing for the Hawks. From what I've read on here the Hawks coach is reaching out to players because they lost one game this year. People on here that have first hand knowledge. LMAO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2022 and Crabs 2022 are in the running to get the Petro boys as well as a solid attackman and goalie from Koopers 2021. Both those teams need saving, but who will get them?

My money is on all of the them going to and playing with FCA '22

Why would Petro leave the club that he helped start?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2022 and Crabs 2022 are in the running to get the Petro boys as well as a solid attackman and goalie from Koopers 2021. Both those teams need saving, but who will get them?

My money is on all of the them going to and playing with FCA '22

Why would Petro leave the club that he helped start?

Great questions. Maybe the people in the "know' can answer? They have firsthand knowledge. 😂

Petro just started his own twitter account, looks to be separating himself from Hopkins, maybe on the hot seat there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2022 and Crabs 2022 are in the running to get the Petro boys as well as a solid attackman and goalie from Koopers 2021. Both those teams need saving, but who will get them?

My money is on all of the them going to and playing with FCA '22

Why would Petro leave the club that he helped start?

Great questions. Maybe the people in the "know' can answer? They have firsthand knowledge. 😂

Petros will be be playing for Koopers 2021 STILL and Duke's Nationals 2022. Fact! Let the boys be and move on!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2022 and Crabs 2022 are in the running to get the Petro boys as well as a solid attackman and goalie from Koopers 2021. Both those teams need saving, but who will get them?

My money is on all of the them going to and playing with FCA '22

Why would Petro leave the club that he helped start?

Great questions. Maybe the people in the "know' can answer? They have firsthand knowledge. 😂

They (and other quality Koopers kids) are really 2022s playing up on 2021 and confusing the recruiters. It's time to play on-age and the Koopers 2022 team is not getting the job done (but it probably would be if those kids stayed).

The Hawks are a great team that is well coached by a driven and dedicated staff! The parents are great people who support their young men that are passionate about the game we all love. They had an amazing run this year and will have continued success going forward. With all that being said: DUKE'S NATIONALS TRYOUTS ARE ON AUGUST 5TH AT HOFSTRA UNIVERSITY!!!!!

VISIT US ONLINE @ www.DUKESNATIONALS.COM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2022 and Crabs 2022 are in the running to get the Petro boys as well as a solid attackman and goalie from Koopers 2021. Both those teams need saving, but who will get them?

How do you know this? and why are the Petro boys leaving Koopers and not just moving down to their 2022 team and making that a better team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I look at 18 -6 first game of season then looked 10-4 end of season . Ouch

Those are two different teams. How can you compare a win vs Diamondbacks to a loss vs an all-star team made up of kids from 7 different teams put together to beat the Hawks for one game? The only similarity is that your kid played in both games and you get to pound your chest anonymously for a couple days. You're probably the same person that complains about holdbacks, but I guess it's ok if it's on an all-star team your kid is on. There's a reason no Hawks kids participate with Duke's but Diamondbacks feel the need to do so (including their coach).

The real reason is with the four practices a week plus film study they Hawks kids wouldn't have time to play for Dukes.

How many of those kids will burn out in 2 years? I walked by their tent yesterday and listened to the coach talking to the team. I almost spit out my drink it was so ridiculous. Those poor kids. I know they win a lot but do they have a life outside of lacrosse? Must have sucked to get worked by a team of kids that play together once every other month or so.

Like I posted yesterday, I hope the parents and players are ready for the weekend because even though it was only one loss, their will be fallout. If the Coach feels your player was the reason they lost, don't expect him to play this weekend. Also might want to try out for other clubs. After all, the Coach has reached out to plenty of replacements already except lefty attackmen of course

Is this statement based on first hand knowledge or did you just stay at a Holiday Inn?

1st hand knowledge and history. We all know one another. Our kids are teammates in other sports. We get the calls from the coach about moving. Yeah, come out and practice 5 times a week and sacrifice so many things while the coach is already recruiting your replacement and gloating about it. Where do I sign up?

If your kid is teammates with Hawks players, doesn't that show they do play other sports? Do you really think playing for two club teams is leaving more time for your kid to have a life outside of lacrosse than playing for one team? Will you be going to Hofstra for Duke's tryouts? By the way, are you this much of a jerk to their faces as your kid is teammates during these other sports or just anonymously?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2022 and Crabs 2022 are in the running to get the Petro boys as well as a solid attackman and goalie from Koopers 2021. Both those teams need saving, but who will get them?

It's funny... All of them are re-classed kids... They should be going into highschool and still playing 2021 like most kids....

Not sure why there is so much negative talk about the DUKE'S NATIONALS??? My son plays on this team. "We are a team of hired guns", "We are a team that cheats by putting MOST of the top players in the country on one team", "We have Re-Class players on our team", "We have coaches that are HIRED GUNS also". I just want to be very honest. You have only seen the tip of the ice berg. We had 4 of our top middies and a couple others who were not at Naptown. Why? Family comes first.

If any of you can step outside of your sour feelings truly ask yourself this. Why are the top youth players from several states flocking to Duke's Nationals???? It's not because they have a negative experience.

Look at it this way! Duke's Nationals meets once a month. Just about every players is a multi sport student athlete. Every player MUST have at least an A average academically and be a better person than they are a lacrosse player. Yes you must be an exceptional talent on the lacrosse field but that's a given. In terms of raising your children, at least for me, these are the kind of people that I want my kids to associate with. WINNERS! I'm not talking about youth tournament results i'm talking about hard working focused boys who are leaders. We all have those parents on our "REGIONAL" teams who are trashy and have kids who mirror them! They put goals in the net but the people at DN won't tolerate negative parents. Truly though, I've seen them give several parents the boot event though their kids are unbelievable players. We also have those parents on "REGIONAL" teams who's kids struggle or don't care about academics and still spend every weekend in the summer having them play instead of getting them academic help. I'm not doctor Phil. lol but it's all positive when my son gets to meet like minded players form different states. All positive stuff! Winning tournaments is naturally going to happen but is not the sole purpose at DN. Totally recommend every player checks it out even if you won't make the team. The atmosphere is refreshing. They have a tryout coming up on August 5th at Hofstra University! www.dukesnationals.com Enjoy the rest of the summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting Hawks 2018 win naptown with out of state players and 2022 Hawks also have out of state players yet they all cry about Dukes 2022 team the past 2 days.

you have no idea what you are talking about in regards to the 2018 team. That team has been one of the better club teams since the boys were in middle school and has occasionally attracted out of area players (mainly from Delaware or Upper Eastern Shore). The player that you are talking about is an out of state player that came to tryouts last August, made the team and played with them all fall and summer. I think you are incorrectly implying that he just showed up for this tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I look at 18 -6 first game of season then looked

Like I posted yesterday, I hope the parents and players are ready for the weekend because even though it was only one loss, their will be fallout. If the Coach feels your player was the reason they lost, don't expect him to play this weekend. Also might want to try out for other clubs. After all, the Coach has reached out to plenty of replacements already except lefty attackmen of course

Is this statement based on first hand knowledge or did you just stay at a Holiday Inn?

1st hand knowledge and history. We all know one another. Our kids are teammates in other sports. We get the calls from the coach about moving. Yeah, come out and practice 5 times a week and sacrifice so many things while the coach is already recruiting your replacement and gloating about it. Where do I sign up?

If your kid is teammates with Hawks players, doesn't that show they do play other sports? Do you really think playing for two club teams is leaving more time for your kid to have a life outside of lacrosse than playing for one team? Will you be going to Hofstra for Duke's tryouts? By the way, are you this much of a jerk to their faces as your kid is teammates during these other sports or just anonymously?

I never said they don't play other sports. I know better. Any conversations about the Hawks are NEVER initiated by me. It is their parents and even more so, their kids.

Dukes - I respect that your sons plays for Dukes let's not sell [lacrosse] about a A averages on grades . I know 3 boys on that team that don't have A average . Also Hawks is a very strong team so they lost who gives a grab . This weekend will be some great lacrosse being played this weekend by all 2022 teams.

Look at it this way! Duke's Nationals meets once a month. Just about every players is a multi sport student athlete. Every player MUST have at least an A average academically and be a better person than they are a lacrosse player. Yes you must be an exceptional talent on the lacrosse field but that's a given. In terms of raising your children, at least for me, these are the kind of people that I want my kids to associate with. WINNERS! I'm not talking about youth tournament results i'm talking about hard working focused boys who are leaders. We all have those parents on our "REGIONAL" teams who are trashy and have kids who mirror them! They put goals in the net but the people at DN won't tolerate negative parents. Truly though, I've seen them give several parents the boot event though their kids are unbelievable players. We also have those parents on "REGIONAL" teams who's kids struggle or don't care about academics and still spend every weekend in the summer having them play instead of getting them academic help. I'm not doctor Phil. lol but it's all positive when my son gets to meet like minded players form different states. All positive stuff! Winning tournaments is naturally going to happen but is not the sole purpose at DN. Totally recommend every player checks it out even if you won't make the team. The atmosphere is refreshing. They have a tryout coming up on August 5th at Hofstra University! www.dukesnationals.com Enjoy the rest of the summer.[/quote]

Child Please, it is what it is in terms of showing up and playing, but just not buying the Mensa or Kumbayah theories.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why there is so much negative talk about the DUKE'S NATIONALS??? My son plays on this team. "We are a team of hired guns", "We are a team that cheats by putting MOST of the top players in the country on one team", "We have Re-Class players on our team", "We have coaches that are HIRED GUNS also". I just want to be very honest. You have only seen the tip of the ice berg. We had 4 of our top middies and a couple others who were not at Naptown. Why? Family comes first.

If any of you can step outside of your sour feelings truly ask yourself this. Why are the top youth players from several states flocking to Duke's Nationals???? It's not because they have a negative experience.

Look at it this way! Duke's Nationals meets once a month. Just about every players is a multi sport student athlete. Every player MUST have at least an A average academically and be a better person than they are a lacrosse player. Yes you must be an exceptional talent on the lacrosse field but that's a given. In terms of raising your children, at least for me, these are the kind of people that I want my kids to associate with. WINNERS! I'm not talking about youth tournament results i'm talking about hard working focused boys who are leaders. We all have those parents on our "REGIONAL" teams who are trashy and have kids who mirror them! They put goals in the net but the people at DN won't tolerate negative parents. Truly though, I've seen them give several parents the boot event though their kids are unbelievable players. We also have those parents on "REGIONAL" teams who's kids struggle or don't care about academics and still spend every weekend in the summer having them play instead of getting them academic help. I'm not doctor Phil. lol but it's all positive when my son gets to meet like minded players form different states. All positive stuff! Winning tournaments is naturally going to happen but is not the sole purpose at DN. Totally recommend every player checks it out even if you won't make the team. The atmosphere is refreshing. They have a tryout coming up on August 5th at Hofstra University! www.dukesnationals.com Enjoy the rest of the summer.

How many kids do you have on Dukes? I only ask because you posted this on multiple grade levels. You are obviously a director spreading lies about the club. You are a "win at all costs" club. You don't care about age as Longview as the team wins. The bench gets ridiculously short in close games. You and your club steve garbage and you're ruining the experience for others with your cheating.

If it's a 2021 team or younger and the helmets don't match, it's mostly likely a team thrown together for a weekend or two.

Finally someone is trying to move to age base
NXT Sports
https://nxtsports.com/blog/entry/nx...to-adopt-us-lacrosse-age-segmentation-p/

I wish all 2022 teams good luck this weekend drink lots of water and Maryland team win . I don't care which one just be a Maryland team

Long Island Express should start a Maryland Team. (Bethesda is not Maryland to most, BLC=DC)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finally someone is trying to move to age base
NXT Sports
https://nxtsports.com/blog/entry/nx...to-adopt-us-lacrosse-age-segmentation-p/

Someone is trying...I didn't know that rec leagues in MD stopped doing age based teams. Did I miss that memo? So stop with the lame indirect gripes about grade based leagues. Put your lil fella in the age based stuff or not, but shut the wind bag either way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish all 2022 teams good luck this weekend drink lots of water and Maryland team win . I don't care which one just be a Maryland team

I would rather Long Island win than the cheaters from Annapolis

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish all 2022 teams good luck this weekend drink lots of water and Maryland team win . I don't care which one just be a Maryland team

I would rather Long Island win than the cheaters from Annapolis

API game should be a BLOW OUT.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish all 2022 teams good luck this weekend drink lots of water and Maryland team win . I don't care which one just be a Maryland team

I would rather Long Island win than the cheaters from Annapolis

Hawks or Diamondbacks?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish all 2022 teams good luck this weekend drink lots of water and Maryland team win . I don't care which one just be a Maryland team

I would rather Long Island win than the cheaters from Annapolis

18-6. See you Saturday. Stop by and say hello.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Express should start a Maryland Team. (Bethesda is not Maryland to most, BLC=DC)

Correct. Bethesda kids can actually read and write above grade level without the constant need to say things such as "Cal, Crabs, Ravens, and Hun". Plus they have higher expectations than playing lax at Anne Arundel Community College or an Essex Community College education.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finally someone is trying to move to age base
NXT Sports
https://nxtsports.com/blog/entry/nx...to-adopt-us-lacrosse-age-segmentation-p/

Someone is trying...I didn't know that rec leagues in MD stopped doing age based teams. Did I miss that memo? So stop with the lame indirect gripes about grade based leagues. Put your lil fella in the age based stuff or not, but shut the wind bag either way.

.Relax... You and the apologists are still able to play older kids against younger ones as of now.. we know your son's ability is not that great against same age children.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Express should start a Maryland Team. (Bethesda is not Maryland to most, BLC=DC)

Correct. Bethesda kids can actually read and write above grade level without the constant need to say things such as "Cal, Crabs, Ravens, and Hun". Plus they have higher expectations than playing lax at Anne Arundel Community College or an Essex Community College education.

. You are so right, they have a direct connection to the Washington DC sanitation dept. Plenty of openings for airheads. Now butthead, stop trashing community colleges.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Express should start a Maryland Team. (Bethesda is not Maryland to most, BLC=DC)

Correct. Bethesda kids can actually read and write above grade level without the constant need to say things such as "Cal, Crabs, Ravens, and Hun". Plus they have higher expectations than playing lax at Anne Arundel Community College or an Essex Community College education.

They can read and write above grade level because they are above grade level. Every class is easier the 2nd time you take it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish all 2022 teams good luck this weekend drink lots of water and Maryland team win . I don't care which one just be a Maryland team

I would rather Long Island win than the cheaters from Annapolis

18-6. See you Saturday. Stop by and say hello.

Sounds like they already stop by your tent to listen to your coach. They could at least say Hi this time. Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish all 2022 teams good luck this weekend drink lots of water and Maryland team win . I don't care which one just be a Maryland team

I would rather Long Island win than the cheaters from Annapolis

18-6. See you Saturday. Stop by and say hello.

A lot of big boy talk on both sides. If the dads are going fight let us know would love to see it.

FYI- API is from Crofton non Annapolis.
Just sayin'

Over/under for API coaches for this weekend is 7.5.

Same thing. Both are the sticks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FYI- API is from Crofton non Annapolis.
Just sayin'

Is that part of Bowie?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FYI- API is from Crofton non Annapolis.
Just sayin'

actually from Arden.......just sayin

Good luck to the Hawks this weekend!
10-4

18-6 dad..18-6

The Baltimore Sun apparently lumps Crofton/Arden/Bowie in with Annapolis as well in their coverage of the Millon 2022 Championship.

"Four area teams will be competing: Maryland Rough Riders (Catonsville); Team 91 Maryland (Baltimore County); Annapolis Hawks and Annapolis Diamondbacks."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FYI- API is from Crofton non Annapolis.
Just sayin'

actually from Arden.......just sayin

Arden or Pasadena. The dirty Dena!

You guys take this crap to serious . You don't play for the teams it's your kids stop be a holes to each other

10-4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

10-4

Good buddy. We got ourselves a convoy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2022 and Crabs 2022 are in the running to get the Petro boys as well as a solid attackman and goalie from Koopers 2021. Both those teams need saving, but who will get them?

My money is on all of the them going to and playing with FCA '22

Why would Petro leave the club that he helped start?

Great questions. Maybe the people in the "know' can answer? They have firsthand knowledge. 😂

Petros will be be playing for Koopers 2021 STILL and Duke's Nationals 2022. Fact! Let the boys be and move on!

I heard they were heading to Crabs, but that doesn't mean they can't still play for Dukes, Koopers, or any other team as well.

FYI, Breakers are a horribly run organization. Money grab scam. Poor coaching. Stay away. He will take your money and then put you in their tournaments. Promises he never keeps. We are leaving for FCA. He thinks they are an elite club. Delusional. Dont waste your time or money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2022 and Crabs 2022 are in the running to get the Petro boys as well as a solid attackman and goalie from Koopers 2021. Both those teams need saving, but who will get them?

My money is on all of the them going to and playing with FCA '22

Why would Petro leave the club that he helped start?

Great questions. Maybe the people in the "know' can answer? They have firsthand knowledge. 😂

Petros will be be playing for Koopers 2021 STILL and Duke's Nationals 2022. Fact! Let the boys be and move on!

I heard they were heading to Crabs, but that doesn't mean they can't still play for Dukes, Koopers, or any other team as well.

Huh! Why would any good players head to crabs 2022? They are weak and falling apart. Their top mid and LSM have already given deposits to another club! Sounds like a crabs coach trying to throw some bait in the water. lol

[quote=Anonymous]The Baltimore Sun apparently lumps Crofton/Arden/Bowie in with Annapolis as well in their coverage of the Millon 2022 Championship.

"Four area teams will be competing: Maryland Rough Riders (Catonsville); Team 91 Maryland (Baltimore County); Annapolis Hawks and Annapolis Diamondbacks."

Shows how much they know. Maryland Rough Riders is from Western Howard County.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

10-4

Almost!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Baltimore Sun apparently lumps Crofton/Arden/Bowie in with Annapolis as well in their coverage of the Millon 2022 Championship.

"Four area teams will be competing: Maryland Rough Riders (Catonsville); Team 91 Maryland (Baltimore County); Annapolis Hawks and Annapolis Diamondbacks."

Shows how much they know. Maryland Rough Riders is from Western Howard County.

And no love for Bethesda and Madlax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Baltimore Sun apparently lumps Crofton/Arden/Bowie in with Annapolis as well in their coverage of the Millon 2022 Championship.

"Four area teams will be competing: Maryland Rough Riders (Catonsville); Team 91 Maryland (Baltimore County); Annapolis Hawks and Annapolis Diamondbacks."

Shows how much they know. Maryland Rough Riders is from Western Howard County.

And no love for Bethesda and Madlax.

The Sun is a Baltimore paper

Any know the score of Bethesda vs team carolina?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Baltimore Sun apparently lumps Crofton/Arden/Bowie in with Annapolis as well in their coverage of the Millon 2022 Championship.

"Four area teams will be competing: Maryland Rough Riders (Catonsville); Team 91 Maryland (Baltimore County); Annapolis Hawks and Annapolis Diamondbacks."

Shows how much they know. Maryland Rough Riders is from Western Howard County.

And no love for Bethesda and Madlax.

The Sun is a Baltimore paper

Annapolis is just as far away.

Must have been a long flight here for the dbags. 0-2 losing to a terrible Legacy team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Baltimore Sun apparently lumps Crofton/Arden/Bowie in with Annapolis as well in their coverage of the Millon 2022 Championship.

"Four area teams will be competing: Maryland Rough Riders (Catonsville); Team 91 Maryland (Baltimore County); Annapolis Hawks and Annapolis Diamondbacks."

Shows how much they know. Maryland Rough Riders is from Western Howard County.

And no love for Bethesda and Madlax.

The Sun is a Baltimore paper

Annapolis is just as far away.

they are close in distance by miles, but would think most people in Bethesda would read the Post and the madlaxxers are only allowed to get their news from Cabell. The Sun now owns the local Annapolis newspaper, so they are only going to try to appeal to their subscribers. Anne Arundel and Howard generally get some ink in both the Sun and Post, but few other counties get the coverage

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Must have been a long flight here for the dbags. 0-2 losing to a terrible Legacy team

Must be a long day behind your keyboard. Hit refresh. Dbacks won that game...2-1 and moving on with winners bracket so congrats to the kids. Sorry to disappoint troll.

Who is the #1 Seed tomorrow?

I didn't see a 18-6 game Hawks . I shall a 4-2 at half but transition game is very strong and you won 10-3 congrats. But nobody expected API a age base to get to the winners bracket . They will finish in the top 10 . Not Roughriders or Madlax.Good luck to the Maryland teams in the winners bracket tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Must have been a long flight here for the dbags. 0-2 losing to a terrible Legacy team

Must be a long day behind your keyboard. Hit refresh. Dbacks won that game...2-1 and moving on with winners bracket so congrats to the kids. Sorry to disappoint troll.

Enjoy your free time this summer and have the boys hit that wall and maybe you can get within a touchdown next year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didn't see a 18-6 game Hawks . I shall a 4-2 at half but transition game is very strong and you won 10-3 congrats. But nobody expected API a age base to get to the winners bracket . They will finish in the top 10 . Not Roughriders or Madlax.Good luck to the Maryland teams in the winners bracket tomorrow.

Age based except for a couple kids.

If we had 6 holdbacks on the team we would win to . Next year some of your kids won't be on the team because 3 kids from 2021 are reclassifying .

Team 91 MD just beat the Hawks 6-5!!!!

It was the Hawks....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 MD just beat the Hawks 6-5!!!!

OMG! The world will end as we know it! Get a life

Other semi?

Who won the other semi?

Best of the worst: 91 Maryland Moms & Igloo Dads! Good luck boys

😂😂😂😂

I guess Hawks with All their Holdbacks couldn't close the Deal . Lost at naptown to Duke's and now team 91md .They can come off their high horse now they aren't the best team 2 loses in the same week . That hurts . Need to find another way to cheat .

Congratulations Igloo! Way to represent Long Island. Best wishes and speedy recovery to your goalie. 🏆

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Hawks with All their Holdbacks couldn't close the Deal . Lost at naptown to Duke's and now team 91md .They can come off their high horse now they aren't the best team 2 loses in the same week . That hurts . Need to find another way to cheat .

For Hawks it is easy, they will bring in a few 2020 players for their 2022 team as it seems the 2021 players they had this year couldn't get it done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didn't see a 18-6 game Hawks . I shall a 4-2 at half but transition game is very strong and you won 10-3 congrats. But nobody expected API a age base to get to the winners bracket . They will finish in the top 10 . Not Roughriders or Madlax.Good luck to the Maryland teams in the winners bracket tomorrow.

Roughriders finished Saturday play 2-1. Only 2-1 team not to make the playoffs. Dbacks in and RRers not b/c of a single goal differential in Saturday play. RRers tourney record 3-1. Will probably finish 11th in a field of 20. A team that's been competitive with all others through Spring and Summer b/c its coaching gets the most from its players, regardless of skill level, w/o being overbearing and micromanaging, and the kids never quit. If the above comment was to imply that RRers is not an age-based team, that'd be dead wrong.

Igloo with the win 7-6.

Igloo wins the toughest tournament of the year. All of the best club teams were there.

Congratulations Igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Hawks with All their Holdbacks couldn't close the Deal . Lost at naptown to Duke's and now team 91md .They can come off their high horse now they aren't the best team 2 loses in the same week . That hurts . Need to find another way to cheat .

You don't know the rules if you think what the Hawks (and every club team in America and Canada) are doing is cheating.

This is not rec lacrosse.

You sound like a sore loser.

These tournaments were for the class of 2022. Last time I checked report cards were turned in back in December. Are you saying that someone had their school lie for them?

Glad the season is over now you trolls can get a life. And stop living through your kid

Our team played in the tournament this weeknd and the top 15 teams were great the bottom 5 were very questionable. It would be good to see some kind of qualifying tournament for certain regions. The DMV and NY should get 5 teams in and then the rest should qualify. The top 5 teams from HOCO league should and how ever NY wants to set who comes from there. There were some bad teams and surprise teams (NL Grey Hounds ) but overall one of the best tournament2we have been to. Great location, good officals, and great comp.
Next year can they use the actual score boards.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo wins the toughest tournament of the year. All of the best club teams were there.

Congratulations Igloo.

Thanks dad. Igloo violated the rules twice, by playing two non rostered players in the goal. #rules

Originally Posted by Anonymous

😂😂😂😂

Absolute classic
So true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo wins the toughest tournament of the year. All of the best club teams were there.

Congratulations Igloo.

Thanks dad. Igloo violated the rules twice, by playing two non rostered players in the goal. #rules

Yes, they did because of medical emergency! You must have no class and be a sore lose for questioning the decision to let them have their 2023 goalies play for them.

Not an Igloo parent either, Team 91 MD parent here.

Crazy thing is tryouts start in 3 weeks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo wins the toughest tournament of the year. All of the best club teams were there.

Congratulations Igloo.

Thanks dad. Igloo violated the rules twice, by playing two non rostered players in the goal. #rules

Yes, they did because of medical emergency! You must have no class and be a sore lose for questioning the decision to let them have their 2023 goalies play for them.

Not an Igloo parent either, Team 91 MD parent here.

Hi Millon. Bad decision. They should have had another goalie on the roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crazy thing is tryouts start in 3 weeks

And let the reclassing begin.

Out of control.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo wins the toughest tournament of the year. All of the best club teams were there.

Congratulations Igloo.

Thanks dad. Igloo violated the rules twice, by playing two non rostered players in the goal. #rules

Yes, they did because of medical emergency! You must have no class and be a sore lose for questioning the decision to let them have their 2023 goalies play for them.

Not an Igloo parent either, Team 91 MD parent here.

Totally agree > rules are rules, no exceptions. Register and bring a second goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo wins the toughest tournament of the year. All of the best club teams were there.

Congratulations Igloo.

Thanks dad. Igloo violated the rules twice, by playing two non rostered players in the goal. #rules

Yes, they did because of medical emergency! You must have no class and be a sore lose for questioning the decision to let them have their 2023 goalies play for them.

Not an Igloo parent either, Team 91 MD parent here.

Hi Millon. Bad decision. They should have had another goalie on the roster.

Not Million, but you must be a really sore loser!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our team played in the tournament this weeknd and the top 15 teams were great the bottom 5 were very questionable. It would be good to see some kind of qualifying tournament for certain regions. The DMV and NY should get 5 teams in and then the rest should qualify. The top 5 teams from HOCO league should and how ever NY wants to set who comes from there. There were some bad teams and surprise teams (NL Grey Hounds ) but overall one of the best tournament2we have been to. Great location, good officals, and great comp.
Next year can they use the actual score boards.

officials were poor and must be improved in the future ~ tournament should watch the film ~ hope to see college referees next year.

All hoco elite teams have kids born before 9/1/2003! All of them! If you think your coach would turn away a quality player that was born before 9/1/2003 and was in the correct grade, you are mistaken.

Blame your coach for being a crappy recruiter, but don't blame the other teams for getting these kids as the kids realize they are not at the top of their grade and drop down to take a spot from a younger kid.

That's the way club lacrosse works.

If you don't like it, play rec. There is no option in club lacrosse for teams that only take kids born after 9/1/2003.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo wins the toughest tournament of the year. All of the best club teams were there.

Congratulations Igloo.

Was Primetime there? Oh, not all the best teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo wins the toughest tournament of the year. All of the best club teams were there.

Congratulations Igloo.

Was Primetime there? Oh, not all the best teams.

Prime Time should have been there, but they have enough losses against many of the teams that were there to make igloo the valid national champ.

Prime Time needs to get that application in earlier to Millon next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All hoco elite teams have kids born before 9/1/2003! All of them! If you think your coach would turn away a quality player that was born before 9/1/2003 and was in the correct grade, you are mistaken.

Blame your coach for being a crappy recruiter, but don't blame the other teams for getting these kids as the kids realize they are not at the top of their grade and drop down to take a spot from a younger kid.

That's the way club lacrosse works.

If you don't like it, play rec. There is no option in club lacrosse for teams that only take kids born after 9/1/2003.

Thanks Fat Crab and/or parent of a re-classed 14-15 year old playing with rising 8 graders. You're a class act.

How did 91MD beat Hawks?

I guess now we know a big reason for the Hawks success this season. Face off guy using an illegal stick. Between that and the holdbacks, no wonder.

Long Island Express = 2017 WSYL champs
Igloo = 2017 National champs

Great job Long Island!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Express = 2017 WSYL champs
Igloo = 2017 National champs

Great job Long Island!!!!!

Sorry everyone! That would be an Igloo parent. They can not help themselves. Total fools

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did 91MD beat Hawks?

Maybe Millon was at their tent listening to their pregame speech?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did 91MD beat Hawks?

The Texas kids were there.

do you know why it was illegal?
Pocket? head? shaft?

then how did they give him all tournament? Seriously?????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess now we know a big reason for the Hawks success this season. Face off guy using an illegal stick. Between that and the holdbacks, no wonder.

Sorry your kids team did not do better and you have to find excuses. Better luck next year.

Please continue to fabricate lies and vent your hatred. That's the entertainment that keeps everyone coming back to this site.

I find it ironic that all the L.I. Crybabies can harp about all the alleged hold backs on various Maryland teams (player cutoff dates established in MD are valid to MD players but L.I. teams keep coming every summer) but Igloo can use non-rostered players and justify it as ok. Should have put the equipment on a rostered player. Illegal and cheaters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it ironic that all the L.I. Crybabies can harp about all the alleged hold backs on various Maryland teams (player cutoff dates established in MD are valid to MD players but L.I. teams keep coming every summer) but Igloo can use non-rostered players and justify it as ok. Should have put the equipment on a rostered player. Illegal and cheaters.

Igloo made what this tournament was designed to do completely irrelevant. This tournament champion of igloo should be disqualified. They went from having one rostered goalie on day one to two new goalies unrostered on Sunday. And the fact that Millon didn't call them on it was a joke. Shameful act by igloo. Pure and blatant act of cheating. This tournament became a bunch of scrimmages with no champion. Great job Millon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I find it ironic that all the L.I. Crybabies can harp about all the alleged hold backs on various Maryland teams (player cutoff dates established in MD are valid to MD players but L.I. teams keep coming every summer) but Igloo can use non-rostered players and justify it as ok. Should have put the equipment on a rostered player. Illegal and cheaters.

1000% Agree

Long Island won. Maryland lost.

black and white: rules are rules and igloo competed in violation thus disqualification. igloo coach was irresponsible for attending the event with only one player in a key position and tournament director failed to enforce rule

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island won. Maryland lost.

[b]Igloo solely represents itself and let's keep it that way

Long Island Cheaters. It's simple. Igloo used non-rostered player, it's a clear rule violation. No? Should have dressed a rostered player in goalie equipment.

Cheaters.

Wah...wah....wah! Instead of crying you might want to practice a little more!!!!

Millon was informed step by step every minute. Millon allowed it. Goalie broke his leg

Exactly and both he and igloo were wrong. That's all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

black and white: rules are rules and igloo competed in violation thus disqualification. igloo coach was irresponsible for attending the event with only one player in a key position and tournament director failed to enforce rule

You act like 2020 goalies were brought in. They were 2023 going up against holdbacks. You are just pissed your players couldn't get past the younger ones.

Don't be mad at Igloo. If you are going to direct your anger at anyone it should be the director of the tournament. He was made aware of their circumstance and approved it and did so knowing there was a chance that his team would have to play them.

This is all silly. So you are all saying that you would rather win by a technicality?

I mean MM is an [lacrosse], but his team is the one that would benefit by disqualifying them as they would win the championship. Can you imagine the backlash if he did that and made his team the winner? Everyone needs to get over themselves. It was a great group of teams.

Not pissed, but rules are for a reason and igloo broke the rules.

The tournament and championship have been discredited.

Don't be mad at Igloo. If you are going to direct your anger at anyone it should be the director of the tournament. He was made aware of their circumstance and approved it and did so knowing there was a chance that his team would have to play them.

Minus all the bs above it was a great tournament. Great bunch of athletes playing at a very high level. Congrats to Igloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't be mad at Igloo. If you are going to direct your anger at anyone it should be the director of the tournament. He was made aware of their circumstance and approved it and did so knowing there was a chance that his team would have to play them.

That's like saying don't be mad at the student for cheating but direct your anger to the teacher for allowing it. Now that would be stupid but I am not going to try to educate you.

1 person decides if the rules are broken and that is Millon. As the director he has final say and he decided based on the circumstances that it was ok...thats it, period end of story. Igloo didn't put glasses with a nose and moustache on another goalie and put him out there with a different name on his back. You are upset because you lost to a mostly younger and smaller team. Get over it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1 person decides if the rules are broken and that is Millon. As the director he has final say and he decided based on the circumstances that it was ok...thats it, period end of story. Igloo didn't put glasses with a nose and moustache on another goalie and put him out there with a different name on his back. You are upset because you lost to a mostly younger and smaller team. Get over it

Upset because cheaters never win, except in this case. All coaches were well aware of the published rules, when registering and submitting the rosters.

While we are talking cheating, what were the two other tournaments that the 2021-2022 igloo team played in to be in compliance with the WSYL tournament?

No it's not like that...really it isnt

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't be mad at Igloo. If you are going to direct your anger at anyone it should be the director of the tournament. He was made aware of their circumstance and approved it and did so knowing there was a chance that his team would have to play them.

That's like saying don't be mad at the student for cheating but direct your anger to the teacher for allowing it. Now that would be stupid but I am not going to try to educate you.

Hmmmm..no it's not...really it isn't. Nice try though. But don't think too much more on a witty analogy to come back with. Igloo won its over.. Just think of it as Igloo got a 100 on the test and your son (who has to sit in the back because he is so big due to repeating the grade

)got a 65 lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No it's not like that...really it isnt

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't be mad at Igloo. If you are going to direct your anger at anyone it should be the director of the tournament. He was made aware of their circumstance and approved it and did so knowing there was a chance that his team would have to play them.

That's like saying don't be mad at the student for cheating but direct your anger to the teacher for allowing it. Now that would be stupid but I am not going to try to educate you.

Hmmmm..no it's not...really it isn't. Nice try though. But don't think too much more on a witty analogy to come back with. Igloo won its over.. Just think of it as Igloo got a 100 on the test and your son (who has to sit in the back because he is so big due to repeating the grade

)got a 65 lol

Stay classless Igloo!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No it's not like that...really it isnt

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't be mad at Igloo. If you are going to direct your anger at anyone it should be the director of the tournament. He was made aware of their circumstance and approved it and did so knowing there was a chance that his team would have to play them.

That's like saying don't be mad at the student for cheating but direct your anger to the teacher for allowing it. Now that would be stupid but I am not going to try to educate you.

Hmmmm..no it's not...really it isn't. Nice try though. But don't think too much more on a witty analogy to come back with. Igloo won its over.. Just think of it as Igloo got a 100 on the test and your son (who has to sit in the back because he is so big due to repeating the grade

)got a 65 lol

Stay classless Igloo!

You forced me to break chops....didnt want to. All kids played their hearts out on the field and any team could have won

Did the Hawks Faceoff guy get called for using an illegal stick? Deep Pocket? What is the fuss about???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No it's not like that...really it isnt

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't be mad at Igloo. If you are going to direct your anger at anyone it should be the director of the tournament. He was made aware of their circumstance and approved it and did so knowing there was a chance that his team would have to play them.

That's like saying don't be mad at the student for cheating but direct your anger to the teacher for allowing it. Now that would be stupid but I am not going to try to educate you.

Hmmmm..no it's not...really it isn't. Nice try though. But don't think too much more on a witty analogy to come back with. Igloo won its over.. Just think of it as Igloo got a 100 on the test and your son (who has to sit in the back because he is so big due to repeating the grade

)got a 65 lol

Stay classless Igloo!

You forced me to break chops....didnt want to. All kids played their hearts out on the field and any team could have won

you are an [lacrosse], naturally
obviously any team could have won
most all championship games were 1 or 2 goal games
thanks moron

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the Hawks Faceoff guy get called for using an illegal stick? Deep Pocket? What is the fuss about???

1mm too pinched after facing off all game according to rumors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the Hawks Faceoff guy get called for using an illegal stick? Deep Pocket? What is the fuss about???

1mm too pinched after facing off all game according to rumors.

regardless, that too would be cheating. players are responsible for checking and maintaining legal sticks. having said that, was it the first and only game where referees checked a player's stick? it was not observed in any other games that we saw. playing against 91 maryland and its coach being the tournament director presents a clear and obvious conflict of interest as it pertains to officiating, which is expected to be addressed in the future.

Observations from this weekend at 2022 National Championship:

1) Really Solid Teams 1-17. Great venue and event. only competition Issues were 17-20
2) Only real issue with seeding was 2 of the weaker teams were both in Igloo and Team 9+1 Millon MD bracket. HUGE advantage for Igloo to make 2nd seed after playing a team that scored 1 goal (Triad) in the whole tourney when tie breaker was goals against. Also could rest horses.
3) Interesting that Igloo and Team Millon Md also had favorable early morning (out of heat) schedule on Saturday - thus had 24+ hours of rest for day 2 - HUGE ADVANTAGE
4) Several of the top teams - LIE/Hawks/Bethesda/Greyhounds played on short rest finishing day 1 late - HUGE DISADVANTAGE
5) Hawks and Bethesda arguably still top two teams. Bethesda beat Team 9+1 Millon twice in HOCO convincingly.
6) Impressive how 3 of the top 4 teams were from MD and were top three teams in HOCO as well.
7) Venue and Mid summer HOT WEATHER format may be better suited for:
16 Teams - 4 bracket's -
Friday - play 1 game
Saturday - play 3 games
Sunday play Semi's and championship
8) Lax mom's + July = Hot Momma

I think the boys game needs be like the girls and check every stick before the game, before every face off, and after ever goal. It's the only way to stop this rampant cheating!

Correction, we did it with swarming defense, great coaching, tenacity on gbs, and playing with the kids who brought us to the party. We used a fogo who injured his hand Friday, and a middie with an injured shoulder in game 1 day 2. We beat them by taking away the strengths they play to. We also stunk for part of the final and, quite appropriately, lost together. In short, we played as a team and lost as a team: no compmaints, no exuses, no subs, no emergency transport of players not on the roster. Igloo beat us, so congrats to the boys on that squad. But don't dare get on this blog and diminish our boys'accomplishment by questioning their ability or talent.
Proud Team91Md dad!

91MD dad, I thought Igloo parents were friendly yet fierce for their boys. We hit 2 pipes in last 20 seconds that would've forced OT. any given day these kids can win or lose. all games yesterday were 1-2 goal decisions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correction, we did it with swarming defense, great coaching, tenacity on gbs, and playing with the kids who brought us to the party. We used a fogo who injured his hand Friday, and a middie with an injured shoulder in game 1 day 2. We beat them by taking away the strengths they play to. We also stunk for part of the final and, quite appropriately, lost together. In short, we played as a team and lost as a team: no compmaints, no exuses, no subs, no emergency transport of players not on the roster. Igloo beat us, so congrats to the boys on that squad. But don't dare get on this blog and diminish our boys'accomplishment by questioning their ability or talent.
Proud Team91Md dad!

Or state of birth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correction, we did it with swarming defense, great coaching, tenacity on gbs, and playing with the kids who brought us to the party. We used a fogo who injured his hand Friday, and a middie with an injured shoulder in game 1 day 2. We beat them by taking away the strengths they play to. We also stunk for part of the final and, quite appropriately, lost together. In short, we played as a team and lost as a team: no compmaints, no exuses, no subs, no emergency transport of players not on the roster. Igloo beat us, so congrats to the boys on that squad. But don't dare get on this blog and diminish our boys'accomplishment by questioning their ability or talent.
Proud Team91Md dad!

Proud Team91Md dad - I'm glad that "you" guys played so well.... You used the term "we" 5 times in your epic statement. "We".... did you play?

Hey "Proud Team 91MD dad" sounds like excuses to me.
Not questioning their ability or talent.... That speaks for itself.... YOU LOST!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correction, we did it with swarming defense, great coaching, tenacity on gbs, and playing with the kids who brought us to the party. We used a fogo who injured his hand Friday, and a middie with an injured shoulder in game 1 day 2. We beat them by taking away the strengths they play to. We also stunk for part of the final and, quite appropriately, lost together. In short, we played as a team and lost as a team: no compmaints, no exuses, no subs, no emergency transport of players not on the roster. Igloo beat us, so congrats to the boys on that squad. But don't dare get on this blog and diminish our boys'accomplishment by questioning their ability or talent.
Proud Team91Md dad!

Spoken like a true Number 2

Now I'm beginning to see why igloo is the # 1 least liked team

Wonder how many times face kid cheated this year.. Sad Hawks have the most holdbacks and now have to cheat with face off sticks... Hawks are teaching their kids how to get ahead in life. CHEAT

Does the TM in TM91 stand for Trashy Moms?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder how many times face kid cheated this year.. Sad Hawks have the most holdbacks and now have to cheat with face off sticks... Hawks are teaching their kids how to get ahead in life. CHEAT

18-6
10-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correction, we did it with swarming defense, great coaching, tenacity on gbs, and playing with the kids who brought us to the party. We used a fogo who injured his hand Friday, and a middie with an injured shoulder in game 1 day 2. We beat them by taking away the strengths they play to. We also stunk for part of the final and, quite appropriately, lost together. In short, we played as a team and lost as a team: no compmaints, no exuses, no subs, no emergency transport of players not on the roster. Igloo beat us, so congrats to the boys on that squad. But don't dare get on this blog and diminish our boys'accomplishment by questioning their ability or talent.
Proud Team91Md dad!

Or state of birth.

2 kids are from Texas and have played with the team all year and have been on the roster since the fall. While I do not agree with them being on the team at all, it is not cheating or stacking when they "try out", play with team all year and pay the full fees.

Team 91 Parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correction, we did it with swarming defense, great coaching, tenacity on gbs, and playing with the kids who brought us to the party. We used a fogo who injured his hand Friday, and a middie with an injured shoulder in game 1 day 2. We beat them by taking away the strengths they play to. We also stunk for part of the final and, quite appropriately, lost together. In short, we played as a team and lost as a team: no compmaints, no exuses, no subs, no emergency transport of players not on the roster. Igloo beat us, so congrats to the boys on that squad. But don't dare get on this blog and diminish our boys'accomplishment by questioning their ability or talent.
Proud Team91Md dad!

Or state of birth.

2 kids are from Texas and have played with the team all year and have been on the roster since the fall. While I do not agree with them being on the team at all, it is not cheating or stacking when they "try out", play with team all year and pay the full fees.

Team 91 Parent

I should have clarified, according to MM it is not cheating or stacking. He has a justification for everything he does, no matter how wrong it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder how many times face kid cheated this year.. Sad Hawks have the most holdbacks and now have to cheat with face off sticks... Hawks are teaching their kids how to get ahead in life. CHEAT

18-6
10-3

What was API summer record? Win any tournaments?

Hoco league they where 2-4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correction, we did it with swarming defense, great coaching, tenacity on gbs, and playing with the kids who brought us to the party. We used a fogo who injured his hand Friday, and a middie with an injured shoulder in game 1 day 2. We beat them by taking away the strengths they play to. We also stunk for part of the final and, quite appropriately, lost together. In short, we played as a team and lost as a team: no compmaints, no exuses, no subs, no emergency transport of players not on the roster. Igloo beat us, so congrats to the boys on that squad. But don't dare get on this blog and diminish our boys'accomplishment by questioning their ability or talent.
Proud Team91Md dad!

Or state of birth.

2 kids are from Texas and have played with the team all year and have been on the roster since the fall. While I do not agree with them being on the team at all, it is not cheating or stacking when they "try out", play with team all year and pay the full fees.

Team 91 Parent

Do they fly in for practice every week too?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correction, we did it with swarming defense, great coaching, tenacity on gbs, and playing with the kids who brought us to the party. We used a fogo who injured his hand Friday, and a middie with an injured shoulder in game 1 day 2. We beat them by taking away the strengths they play to. We also stunk for part of the final and, quite appropriately, lost together. In short, we played as a team and lost as a team: no compmaints, no exuses, no subs, no emergency transport of players not on the roster. Igloo beat us, so congrats to the boys on that squad. But don't dare get on this blog and diminish our boys'accomplishment by questioning their ability or talent.
Proud Team91Md dad!

2nd place is First loser!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder how many times face kid cheated this year.. Sad Hawks have the most holdbacks and now have to cheat with face off sticks... Hawks are teaching their kids how to get ahead in life. CHEAT

Just not true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder how many times face kid cheated this year.. Sad Hawks have the most holdbacks and now have to cheat with face off sticks... Hawks are teaching their kids how to get ahead in life. CHEAT

Is using a softball to make the head wider cheating?

The head should be thinner and you cheat it wider after every game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the Hawks Faceoff guy get called for using an illegal stick? Deep Pocket? What is the fuss about???

1mm too pinched after facing off all game according to rumors.

regardless, that too would be cheating. players are responsible for checking and maintaining legal sticks. having said that, was it the first and only game where referees checked a player's stick? it was not observed in any other games that we saw. playing against 91 maryland and its coach being the tournament director presents a clear and obvious conflict of interest as it pertains to officiating, which is expected to be addressed in the future.

Addressed in the future? There should be no future for this tournament. The basis and rules for this tournament were proven to mean nothing. Addressed in the future. The future of this tournament should be a defunct website and twitter page. Millon had this set up for years to come but in a moment he made his own tournament irrelevant. It would be a shame for any club to enter this tournament or travel here for it. We need letters from schools, we need roster blah blah blah blah blah....what a joke of a tournament.

Hawks 10-4 at own tournament lost
6-5 team 91 win Hawks and caught cheating
Winner🥇Of the most holdbacks on a team...

That's why you guys have to merge with greyhounds more holdbacks and you couldn't it done .

No surprises here with the anonymous posts calling out a 13-year old boy on the Hawks as a cheater and questioning the integrity of the 2022 team! It is now documented and proven that it is Mark Millon (the director the 2022 National Tournament), his hired officials and Team 91 MD that lacked the integrity and honesty to uphold and enforce the rules they actually set in place. I know this site often lacks facts so let's get the facts straight to document the travesty that happened yesterday with the Hawks 2022 FOGO kid before other pile-on without understanding what transpired in the semi-finals on Sunday.

Facts: A stick check was called 1-minute prior to the end of the game on the Hawks FOGO directly after taking a fast break and the Hawks scoring to bring the score to a one point game. In turn, Mark Millon called for a stick check and penalty was incorrectly issued after a 5-minute delay claiming that the throat was slightly less than 3” (which is the NCAA rule). However, under Federation rules, there is no mention of an exact width of the throat, only that the ball must pass the rollout test, which it passed! Spectators could clearly see this from the stands because the "MM hired-officials" popped the ball up in the air several times trying to find a violation then tried another tactic and went to the tape measure for some reason not understood. MM cheated by not accurately applying the rules that he distributed for the tournament. The fact that this young boy has dealt with the shame of this costly penalty to turn the possession over to Team 91 with just 1 minute left in the game, yet the stick was legal based on 2017 NFHS criteria. So sad, but we all expect nothing less from a MM run tournament and the trolls that want to bash a kid’s integrity without merit!

Lacrosse National Championship Class of 2022 rule extract for Sticks:
"Sticks - BOTH NCAA & Federation sticks are legal
Stick Length, pocket depth, and head top width will be in effect
40'" - 42" or 52" - 72" (NCAA regulation)"

The Hawk’s FOGO deserves an apology from MM due to the unmerited penalty for an illegal stick but...as we all have witnessed on several occasions, it is win at all costs for Mark; even if it means cheating and making it look like as if the 13-year boy and his stick were at fault! Thanks MM, keep it classy, some day your actions will catch up to you!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No surprises here with the anonymous posts calling out a 13-year old boy on the Hawks as a cheater and questioning the integrity of the 2022 team! It is now documented and proven that it is Mark Millon (the director the 2022 National Tournament), his hired officials and Team 91 MD that lacked the integrity and honesty to uphold and enforce the rules they actually set in place. I know this site often lacks facts so let's get the facts straight to document the travesty that happened yesterday with the Hawks 2022 FOGO kid before other pile-on without understanding what transpired in the semi-finals on Sunday.

Facts: A stick check was called 1-minute prior to the end of the game on the Hawks FOGO directly after taking a fast break and the Hawks scoring to bring the score to a one point game. In turn, Mark Millon called for a stick check and penalty was incorrectly issued after a 5-minute delay claiming that the throat was slightly less than 3” (which is the NCAA rule). However, under Federation rules, there is no mention of an exact width of the throat, only that the ball must pass the rollout test, which it passed! Spectators could clearly see this from the stands because the "MM hired-officials" popped the ball up in the air several times trying to find a violation then tried another tactic and went to the tape measure for some reason not understood. MM cheated by not accurately applying the rules that he distributed for the tournament. The fact that this young boy has dealt with the shame of this costly penalty to turn the possession over to Team 91 with just 1 minute left in the game, yet the stick was legal based on 2017 NFHS criteria. So sad, but we all expect nothing less from a MM run tournament and the trolls that want to bash a kid’s integrity without merit!

Lacrosse National Championship Class of 2022 rule extract for Sticks:
"Sticks - BOTH NCAA & Federation sticks are legal
Stick Length, pocket depth, and head top width will be in effect
40'" - 42" or 52" - 72" (NCAA regulation)"

The Hawk’s FOGO deserves an apology from MM due to the unmerited penalty for an illegal stick but...as we all have witnessed on several occasions, it is win at all costs for Mark; even if it means cheating and making it look like as if the 13-year boy and his stick were at fault! Thanks MM, keep it classy, some day your actions will catch up to you!!!

Thanks Dad!!! We believe you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks 10-4 at own tournament lost
6-5 team 91 win Hawks and caught cheating
Winner🥇Of the most holdbacks on a team...

That's why you guys have to merge with greyhounds more holdbacks and you couldn't it done .

You clearly don't know the facts if you think the Hawks have the most holdbacks. They aren't even in the top 5.

I get you don't like holdbacks, nobody does. It is a very shady practice but ALL of the Baltimore based teams and ALL of the Bethesda teams have many more holdbacks than the Hawks. And ALL of the teams have holdbacks born before 9/1/2003. You can only complain if you are a Rec team.

As for losing two games - thats 7th grade lacrosse. Has any team gone undefeated since the kids started playing in summer tournaments playing national and international teams?

I have daughters who play lax so someone here please answer this

1) what is fogo ?

2) and do you not have stick check before a game like girls do ?
How would someone have an illegal stick?

You all must be kidding. As a former college face-off (not fogo, back in the 90's we stayed on the field) player, having your stick bend to the point of drawing a penalty would never be considered "cheating" by those who play the game. It's no more cheating than slashing an opponent. It's a PENALTY - not cheating.

Cheating is playing with an ineligible player, paying off a ref, etc.

I have coached youth lax for 20 years now and have never seen or even heard of a player (FOGO or anyone else) intentionally using a stick that would draw a penalty. They might not know (they should), it might bend too much during the game, or it might even be illegal before the games starts. But to think someone would do that on purpose is nonsense. The refs are standing over the sticks and you know they will check a stick if it looks illegal. Especially FOGO's. When the Big Cat (Towson's FOGO) got 2 illegal stick penalties in the same game (back in the pinch-and-pop days) nobody said he was cheating! He was called a lot of things (dumb, Goat, least favorite coaches player that day) but cheater wasn't one of them. There is no chance he was intentionally using an illegal stick (pinched before being strung).

Same with Steve G from UNC - FOGO who had a full page color picture in Lacrosse Magazine showing the ball in his hand on a face-off when he grabbed it and rolled it back between his legs (I asked him to show me how to do it so quickly but I could never replicate). We didn't call it cheating - we said he got away with one!

So grow up, ask someone who has played the game and the position, and realize that while an illegal stick may be an advantage, it's the refs and other teams job to ask for a check if they think so. And if it is illegal, it's just a penalty - part of the normal course of a game, just like a slash or offsides.

It is really sad to see adults(used loosely) on a message board crying over kids sports. I was there all weekend watching and what I saw were 20 teams trying to win lacrosse games. Yes there is some gamesmanship going on but it was some of the best lacrosse played all year. Annapolis Hawks were the best team all year and I think to much lacrosse caught up with them this weekend. BLC another great team did not play enough lacrosse this summer and that caught up with them. The LI teams were great. Team from Richmond was a big surprise. The worst part of the weekend was the goalie from Igloo getting hurt in a meaning less game. I felt terrible for the kid as he was in a ton of pain. If some could up date on how he is doing I would rather see that then all of the crying.
I hope they take a few things from this weekend.
1) Do not have a coach in the tournament put his name on the event. Be involved behind the scene but not the head line
2) Make sure that all teams have 2 listed goalies on their roster. When you go to Nationals in Ice Hockey they make sure you have 2 goalies on your roster and for some reason if you cannot get a 2nd goalie they provide one for you from local players.
3) Make sure all the fields are the same. That grass field was awful in so many different ways.
4) If you could figure out how to have some kind of regional qualifier for certain areas. Some of the lower teams were not good.

Overall it was some of the best lacrosse all summer.

And the scores prove it was some of the best games all summer. 12 goals separated 9 games in the championship brackets. maybe not the best lacrosse ever played but some of the best match-ups of 13 yr old boys Football season next!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is really sad to see adults(used loosely) on a message board crying over kids sports. I was there all weekend watching and what I saw were 20 teams trying to win lacrosse games. Yes there is some gamesmanship going on but it was some of the best lacrosse played all year. Annapolis Hawks were the best team all year and I think to much lacrosse caught up with them this weekend. BLC another great team did not play enough lacrosse this summer and that caught up with them. The LI teams were great. Team from Richmond was a big surprise. The worst part of the weekend was the goalie from Igloo getting hurt in a meaning less game. I felt terrible for the kid as he was in a ton of pain. If some could up date on how he is doing I would rather see that then all of the crying.
I hope they take a few things from this weekend.
1) Do not have a coach in the tournament put his name on the event. Be involved behind the scene but not the head line
2) Make sure that all teams have 2 listed goalies on their roster. When you go to Nationals in Ice Hockey they make sure you have 2 goalies on your roster and for some reason if you cannot get a 2nd goalie they provide one for you from local players.
3) Make sure all the fields are the same. That grass field was awful in so many different ways.
4) If you could figure out how to have some kind of regional qualifier for certain areas. Some of the lower teams were not good.

Overall it was some of the best lacrosse all summer.

Goalie had broken femur and displaced knee. Had surgery Sunday morning and made it to championship game to watch his team from the back seat of his parents car.

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Goalie had broken femur and displaced knee. Had surgery Sunday morning and made it to championship game to watch his team from the back seat of his parents car.[/quote]

Heart of a champion! God bless him, with a healthy recovery

New wsyl ranking are out API 3 in the world.......but only 6 or 7 best team in Maryland. Lol.

Which teams goalie broke his leg? Hawks? was it bad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which teams goalie broke his leg? Hawks? was it bad?

Igloo goalie Saturday at National Championship tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks 10-4 at own tournament lost
6-5 team 91 win Hawks and caught cheating
Winner🥇Of the most holdbacks on a team...

That's why you guys have to merge with greyhounds more holdbacks and you couldn't it done .

Classic hater!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is really sad to see adults(used loosely) on a message board crying over kids sports. I was there all weekend watching and what I saw were 20 teams trying to win lacrosse games. Yes there is some gamesmanship going on but it was some of the best lacrosse played all year. Annapolis Hawks were the best team all year and I think to much lacrosse caught up with them this weekend. BLC another great team did not play enough lacrosse this summer and that caught up with them. The LI teams were great. Team from Richmond was a big surprise. The worst part of the weekend was the goalie from Igloo getting hurt in a meaning less game. I felt terrible for the kid as he was in a ton of pain. If some could up date on how he is doing I would rather see that then all of the crying.
I hope they take a few things from this weekend.
1) Do not have a coach in the tournament put his name on the event. Be involved behind the scene but not the head line
2) Make sure that all teams have 2 listed goalies on their roster. When you go to Nationals in Ice Hockey they make sure you have 2 goalies on your roster and for some reason if you cannot get a 2nd goalie they provide one for you from local players.
3) Make sure all the fields are the same. That grass field was awful in so many different ways.
4) If you could figure out how to have some kind of regional qualifier for certain areas. Some of the lower teams were not good.

Overall it was some of the best lacrosse all summer.

With respect to suggestion #1 above -- everyone knows that Mark Millon is all about the Millon "brand". Everything else in his world is secondary to his self promotion wherever possible. Love that his first born was also named a "first team" all tournament player, and that his favorites from the area were generously listed on all teams/honorable mention list. What a promoter!

Overall the best competition of the summer. The tournament was very well run and it was fun to be able to watch other teams play in close proximity of each other. It was cool to see the All tournament selections.

First Team:
Attack
4 Ripley-Hawks
21 Vidunas - Greyhounds
9 Millon- Team 91 MD
3 Haberman- Igloo

Midfield
27 Loe- Igloo
22 Marlatt- Greyhounds
31 Hoffman - Team 91 LI
20 Terenzi- LI Express

Defense
15- Azbill- RoughRiders
8 -Ross - Hawks
13 Horgen-3D New England
55 Jones - Team91 MD

Goalie
19 Ruppel- RoughRiders

LSM
27 Schaller - Team 91 MD

FOGO
32 Boyd- Hawks

not a 91 MD parent...how did #2 on that team not make it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not a 91 MD parent...how did #2 on that team not make it?

He is really good as are the guys who made 1st team. I believe he made 2nd team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overall the best competition of the summer. The tournament was very well run and it was fun to be able to watch other teams play in close proximity of each other. It was cool to see the All tournament selections.

First Team:
Attack
4 Ripley-Hawks
21 Vidunas - Greyhounds
9 Millon- Team 91 MD
3 Haberman- Igloo

Midfield
27 Loe- Igloo
22 Marlatt- Greyhounds
31 Hoffman - Team 91 LI
20 Terenzi- LI Express

Defense
15- Azbill- RoughRiders
8 -Ross - Hawks
13 Horgen-3D New England
55 Jones - Team91 MD

Goalie
19 Ruppel- RoughRiders

LSM
27 Schaller - Team 91 MD

FOGO
32 Boyd- Hawks

Any coaches kids make the team?

Inside Lacrosse updated their U13 rankings after the Millon National Championship.

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...inside-lacrosse-13u-world-rankings/49653

New Inside Lacrosse U13 rankings:
1. Igloo
2. Socal Express (#14 at Nat Champ)
3. Diamondbacks (#10 at Nat Champ)
4. T9-1LI
5. LI Express (#5 at Nat Champ)
6. Colorado Outlaws
7. Brotherly Love
8. Mad Dog West
9. Tri-State (#9 at Naptown week before last)
10. ADVNC
11. BBL Elite (#9 at Nat Champ)

Watch list:
Eclipse (Conn.)
Edge (Canada)
Evolve Elite (Canada)
Iroquois National
PrimeTime (N.Y.) (#1 at Prime Time Summer Invitational week before last - Beat LI Express)
South Jersey Black Storm (N.J.)

LOL, nice try. Rankings have not changed and will not change until the next qualifier for 2018. Express, Primetime still on top.

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...inside-lacrosse-13u-world-rankings/49653

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is really sad to see adults(used loosely) on a message board crying over kids sports. I was there all weekend watching and what I saw were 20 teams trying to win lacrosse games. Yes there is some gamesmanship going on but it was some of the best lacrosse played all year. Annapolis Hawks were the best team all year and I think to much lacrosse caught up with them this weekend. BLC another great team did not play enough lacrosse this summer and that caught up with them. The LI teams were great. Team from Richmond was a big surprise. The worst part of the weekend was the goalie from Igloo getting hurt in a meaning less game. I felt terrible for the kid as he was in a ton of pain. If some could up date on how he is doing I would rather see that then all of the crying.
I hope they take a few things from this weekend.
1) Do not have a coach in the tournament put his name on the event. Be involved behind the scene but not the head line
2) Make sure that all teams have 2 listed goalies on their roster. When you go to Nationals in Ice Hockey they make sure you have 2 goalies on your roster and for some reason if you cannot get a 2nd goalie they provide one for you from local players.
3) Make sure all the fields are the same. That grass field was awful in so many different ways.
4) If you could figure out how to have some kind of regional qualifier for certain areas. Some of the lower teams were not good.

Overall it was some of the best lacrosse all summer.

With respect to suggestion #1 above -- everyone knows that Mark Millon is all about the Millon "brand". Everything else in his world is secondary to his self promotion wherever possible. Love that his first born was also named a "first team" all tournament player, and that his favorites from the area were generously listed on all teams/honorable mention list. What a promoter!

MM is all about himself and secondly his son. Was there any doubt he would be named to the first team? No, even though he is only an average player. The team's offense is centered around that kid and the ball has to go to him!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...inside-lacrosse-13u-world-rankings/49653

Based on a 3 day event that only 10 teams were at. Not a true ranking at all, but hold onto with all your might. LOL!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...inside-lacrosse-13u-world-rankings/49653

Based on a 3 day event that only 10 teams were at. Not a true ranking at all, but hold onto with all your might. LOL!

Whatever you say igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...inside-lacrosse-13u-world-rankings/49653

Based on a 3 day event that only 10 teams were at. Not a true ranking at all, but hold onto with all your might. LOL!

API ranked 3 lol. They are at best 7 or 8 best from Maryland.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is really sad to see adults(used loosely) on a message board crying over kids sports. I was there all weekend watching and what I saw were 20 teams trying to win lacrosse games. Yes there is some gamesmanship going on but it was some of the best lacrosse played all year. Annapolis Hawks were the best team all year and I think to much lacrosse caught up with them this weekend. BLC another great team did not play enough lacrosse this summer and that caught up with them. The LI teams were great. Team from Richmond was a big surprise. The worst part of the weekend was the goalie from Igloo getting hurt in a meaning less game. I felt terrible for the kid as he was in a ton of pain. If some could up date on how he is doing I would rather see that then all of the crying.
I hope they take a few things from this weekend.
1) Do not have a coach in the tournament put his name on the event. Be involved behind the scene but not the head line
2) Make sure that all teams have 2 listed goalies on their roster. When you go to Nationals in Ice Hockey they make sure you have 2 goalies on your roster and for some reason if you cannot get a 2nd goalie they provide one for you from local players.
3) Make sure all the fields are the same. That grass field was awful in so many different ways.
4) If you could figure out how to have some kind of regional qualifier for certain areas. Some of the lower teams were not good.

Overall it was some of the best lacrosse all summer.

With respect to suggestion #1 above -- everyone knows that Mark Millon is all about the Millon "brand". Everything else in his world is secondary to his self promotion wherever possible. Love that his first born was also named a "first team" all tournament player, and that his favorites from the area were generously listed on all teams/honorable mention list. What a promoter!

MM is all about himself and secondly his son. Was there any doubt he would be named to the first team? No, even though he is only an average player. The team's offense is centered around that kid and the ball has to go to him!

NY: Once again, completely wrong under any circumstances for anyone to call out a kid in this forum, regardless of how one feels about an adult. Depersonalizing whatever sentiments you have, the boy is a great kid, an excellent player and his play and performance on Sunday demonstrated it. He was, in fact, most worthy of 1st Team and his production showed it.

Not sure I would say they are the seventh or eighth in MD
But Hawks , 91 , BLC and RR at this group they are somewhere after those 4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overall the best competition of the summer. The tournament was very well run and it was fun to be able to watch other teams play in close proximity of each other. It was cool to see the All tournament selections.

First Team:
Attack
4 Ripley-Hawks
21 Vidunas - Greyhounds
9 Millon- Team 91 MD
3 Haberman- Igloo

Midfield
27 Loe- Igloo
22 Marlatt- Greyhounds
31 Hoffman - Team 91 LI
20 Terenzi- LI Express

Defense
15- Azbill- RoughRiders
8 -Ross - Hawks
13 Horgen-3D New England
55 Jones - Team91 MD

Goalie
19 Ruppel- RoughRiders

LSM
27 Schaller - Team 91 MD

FOGO
32 Boyd- Hawks

Any coaches kids make the team?

which faceoff kid had the penalty for the illegal stick?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overall the best competition of the summer. The tournament was very well run and it was fun to be able to watch other teams play in close proximity of each other. It was cool to see the All tournament selections.

First Team:
Attack
4 Ripley-Hawks
21 Vidunas - Greyhounds
9 Millon- Team 91 MD
3 Haberman- Igloo

Midfield
27 Loe- Igloo
22 Marlatt- Greyhounds
31 Hoffman - Team 91 LI
20 Terenzi- LI Express

Defense
15- Azbill- RoughRiders
8 -Ross - Hawks
13 Horgen-3D New England
55 Jones - Team91 MD

Goalie
19 Ruppel- RoughRiders

LSM
27 Schaller - Team 91 MD

FOGO
32 Boyd- Hawks

Any coaches kids make the team?

which faceoff kid had the penalty for the illegal stick?

who cares

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is really sad to see adults(used loosely) on a message board crying over kids sports. I was there all weekend watching and what I saw were 20 teams trying to win lacrosse games. Yes there is some gamesmanship going on but it was some of the best lacrosse played all year. Annapolis Hawks were the best team all year and I think to much lacrosse caught up with them this weekend. BLC another great team did not play enough lacrosse this summer and that caught up with them. The LI teams were great. Team from Richmond was a big surprise. The worst part of the weekend was the goalie from Igloo getting hurt in a meaning less game. I felt terrible for the kid as he was in a ton of pain. If some could up date on how he is doing I would rather see that then all of the crying.
I hope they take a few things from this weekend.
1) Do not have a coach in the tournament put his name on the event. Be involved behind the scene but not the head line
2) Make sure that all teams have 2 listed goalies on their roster. When you go to Nationals in Ice Hockey they make sure you have 2 goalies on your roster and for some reason if you cannot get a 2nd goalie they provide one for you from local players.
3) Make sure all the fields are the same. That grass field was awful in so many different ways.
4) If you could figure out how to have some kind of regional qualifier for certain areas. Some of the lower teams were not good.

Overall it was some of the best lacrosse all summer.

With respect to suggestion #1 above -- everyone knows that Mark Millon is all about the Millon "brand". Everything else in his world is secondary to his self promotion wherever possible. Love that his first born was also named a "first team" all tournament player, and that his favorites from the area were generously listed on all teams/honorable mention list. What a promoter!

MM is all about himself and secondly his son. Was there any doubt he would be named to the first team? No, even though he is only an average player. The team's offense is centered around that kid and the ball has to go to him!

NY: Once again, completely wrong under any circumstances for anyone to call out a kid in this forum, regardless of how one feels about an adult. Depersonalizing whatever sentiments you have, the boy is a great kid, an excellent player and his play and performance on Sunday demonstrated it. He was, in fact, most worthy of 1st Team and his production showed it.

Of course if daddy keeps you in the whole game and all the plays are set up to make you look good, your team makes you look good reguarless if your lack of talent.

Ps . I know the kid and he is just like his father, selfish and the world should revolve around him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Inside Lacrosse updated their U13 rankings after the Millon National Championship.

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...inside-lacrosse-13u-world-rankings/49653

New Inside Lacrosse U13 rankings:
1. Igloo
2. Socal Express (#14 at Nat Champ)
3. Diamondbacks (#10 at Nat Champ)
4. T9-1LI
5. LI Express (#5 at Nat Champ)
6. Colorado Outlaws
7. Brotherly Love
8. Mad Dog West
9. Tri-State (#9 at Naptown week before last)
10. ADVNC
11. BBL Elite (#9 at Nat Champ)

Watch list:
Eclipse (Conn.)
Edge (Canada)
Evolve Elite (Canada)
Iroquois National
PrimeTime (N.Y.) (#1 at Prime Time Summer Invitational week before last - Beat LI Express)
South Jersey Black Storm (N.J.)

I think the final rankings from Millon National Championship are pretty close to the way they should be. Maybe a couple west coast and philly teams and obviously Prime Time should be included, but otherwise, these are pretty good:

1-igloo(6-0)
2-91 md(4-2)
3-hawks((4-1)
4-bethesda(4-1)
5-LI express(3-1)
6-91 LI(2-2)
7-greyhounds(3-2)
8-3d NE(3-2)
9-BBL(2-2)
10-Diamondbacks(2-2)
11-Roughriders(3-1)
12-PB revolution(1-3)
13-LI Outlaws(2-2)
14-So Cal express(1-3)
15-Madlax(1-3)
16-Superstar(1-3)
17-Team Carolina(1-3)
18-CT chargers(1-3)
19-LeggyC(0-4)
20-Triad(0-4)

Say what you want about API and any other team that went to Denver, they all went to Denver within the U13 age guidelines imposed by US Lacrosse. Every player was born after Sept 1, 2003. API is currently the #3 ranked team. Too bad Hawks and 91Md were unable to field a team. I'd love to see those teams try and compete without their holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what you want about API and any other team that went to Denver, they all went to Denver within the U13 age guidelines imposed by US Lacrosse. Every player was born after Sept 1, 2003. API is currently the #3 ranked team. Too bad Hawks and 91Md were unable to field a team. I'd love to see those teams try and compete without their holdbacks.

I sure miss rec lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is really sad to see adults(used loosely) on a message board crying over kids sports. I was there all weekend watching and what I saw were 20 teams trying to win lacrosse games. Yes there is some gamesmanship going on but it was some of the best lacrosse played all year. Annapolis Hawks were the best team all year and I think to much lacrosse caught up with them this weekend. BLC another great team did not play enough lacrosse this summer and that caught up with them. The LI teams were great. Team from Richmond was a big surprise. The worst part of the weekend was the goalie from Igloo getting hurt in a meaning less game. I felt terrible for the kid as he was in a ton of pain. If some could up date on how he is doing I would rather see that then all of the crying.
I hope they take a few things from this weekend.
1) Do not have a coach in the tournament put his name on the event. Be involved behind the scene but not the head line
2) Make sure that all teams have 2 listed goalies on their roster. When you go to Nationals in Ice Hockey they make sure you have 2 goalies on your roster and for some reason if you cannot get a 2nd goalie they provide one for you from local players.
3) Make sure all the fields are the same. That grass field was awful in so many different ways.
4) If you could figure out how to have some kind of regional qualifier for certain areas. Some of the lower teams were not good.

Overall it was some of the best lacrosse all summer.

With respect to suggestion #1 above -- everyone knows that Mark Millon is all about the Millon "brand". Everything else in his world is secondary to his self promotion wherever possible. Love that his first born was also named a "first team" all tournament player, and that his favorites from the area were generously listed on all teams/honorable mention list. What a promoter!

MM is all about himself and secondly his son. Was there any doubt he would be named to the first team? No, even though he is only an average player. The team's offense is centered around that kid and the ball has to go to him!

That is funny but TRUE!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is really sad to see adults(used loosely) on a message board crying over kids sports. I was there all weekend watching and what I saw were 20 teams trying to win lacrosse games. Yes there is some gamesmanship going on but it was some of the best lacrosse played all year. Annapolis Hawks were the best team all year and I think to much lacrosse caught up with them this weekend. BLC another great team did not play enough lacrosse this summer and that caught up with them. The LI teams were great. Team from Richmond was a big surprise. The worst part of the weekend was the goalie from Igloo getting hurt in a meaning less game. I felt terrible for the kid as he was in a ton of pain. If some could up date on how he is doing I would rather see that then all of the crying.
I hope they take a few things from this weekend.
1) Do not have a coach in the tournament put his name on the event. Be involved behind the scene but not the head line
2) Make sure that all teams have 2 listed goalies on their roster. When you go to Nationals in Ice Hockey they make sure you have 2 goalies on your roster and for some reason if you cannot get a 2nd goalie they provide one for you from local players.
3) Make sure all the fields are the same. That grass field was awful in so many different ways.
4) If you could figure out how to have some kind of regional qualifier for certain areas. Some of the lower teams were not good.

Overall it was some of the best lacrosse all summer.

With respect to suggestion #1 above -- everyone knows that Mark Millon is all about the Millon "brand". Everything else in his world is secondary to his self promotion wherever possible. Love that his first born was also named a "first team" all tournament player, and that his favorites from the area were generously listed on all teams/honorable mention list. What a promoter!

MM is all about himself and secondly his son. Was there any doubt he would be named to the first team? No, even though he is only an average player. The team's offense is centered around that kid and the ball has to go to him!

NY: Once again, completely wrong under any circumstances for anyone to call out a kid in this forum, regardless of how one feels about an adult. Depersonalizing whatever sentiments you have, the boy is a great kid, an excellent player and his play and performance on Sunday demonstrated it. He was, in fact, most worthy of 1st Team and his production showed it.

Of course if daddy keeps you in the whole game and all the plays are set up to make you look good, your team makes you look good reguarless if your lack of talent.

Ps . I know the kid and he is just like his father, selfish and the world should revolve around him.

OUCH!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what you want about API and any other team that went to Denver, they all went to Denver within the U13 age guidelines imposed by US Lacrosse. Every player was born after Sept 1, 2003. API is currently the #3 ranked team. Too bad Hawks and 91Md were unable to field a team. I'd love to see those teams try and compete without their holdbacks.

Is this the API mom that was pitching a fit about hold backs until one of her own players was called out by another parent. Thought for sure that her tail would still be tucked between your legs. But NO, here we go again with this played out BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the final rankings from Millon National Championship are pretty close to the way they should be. Maybe a couple west coast and philly teams and obviously Prime Time should be included, but otherwise, these are pretty good:

1-igloo(6-0)
2-91 md(4-2)
3-hawks((4-1)
4-bethesda(4-1)
5-LI express(3-1)
6-91 LI(2-2)
7-greyhounds(3-2)
8-3d NE(3-2)
9-BBL(2-2)
10-Diamondbacks(2-2)
11-Roughriders(3-1)
12-PB revolution(1-3)
13-LI Outlaws(2-2)
14-So Cal express(1-3)
15-Madlax(1-3)
16-Superstar(1-3)
17-Team Carolina(1-3)
18-CT chargers(1-3)
19-LeggyC(0-4)
20-Triad(0-4)

Just FYI. Madlax was missing its top two scorers. One of them broke his arm at Young Guns. The other one broke his arm first game on Saturday. Really sad. Any time a team loses its top two scorers, it is going to struggle at a tournament like this one. I got to think they would have done better if they had been at full strength. Beat 91md earlier this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the final rankings from Millon National Championship are pretty close to the way they should be. Maybe a couple west coast and philly teams and obviously Prime Time should be included, but otherwise, these are pretty good:

1-igloo(6-0)
2-91 md(4-2)
3-hawks((4-1)
4-bethesda(4-1)
5-LI express(3-1)
6-91 LI(2-2)
7-greyhounds(3-2)
8-3d NE(3-2)
9-BBL(2-2)
10-Diamondbacks(2-2)
11-Roughriders(3-1)
12-PB revolution(1-3)
13-LI Outlaws(2-2)
14-So Cal express(1-3)
15-Madlax(1-3)
16-Superstar(1-3)
17-Team Carolina(1-3)
18-CT chargers(1-3)
19-LeggyC(0-4)
20-Triad(0-4)

Just FYI. Madlax was missing its top two scorers. One of them broke his arm at Young Guns. The other one broke his arm first game on Saturday. Really sad. Any time a team loses its top two scorers, it is going to struggle at a tournament like this one. I got to think they would have done better if they had been at full strength. Beat 91md earlier this summer.

Should have pulled an Igloo and added a player, or two, to replace the kid that broke his arm during the tournament. No need for grade verification like every other player in the tournament. Just add away at the word of a guy. So what there were other rostered players. It's cool, right?

Where did you find the all tournament team?

Not burst your Madlax bubble but they would have been in that same.general area . 15 to 13 was their group. Not a.bad team but even with best scores finished HOCO In that same spot.API was the most over raneed but got lucky wit soft pool.

Yes API / Diamondbacks are Number 3 in country age base teams with the Hawks and other top grade base teams will never know what would happen because they don't field a age team and that is fine . You can't compare them .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where did you find the all tournament team?

Go to the 2022 National Championship twitter and instagram feeds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes API / Diamondbacks are Number 3 in country age base teams with the Hawks and other top grade base teams will never know what would happen because they don't field a age team and that is fine . You can't compare them .

Look at the HoCo standings for an idea how most of the MD and VA club teams stack up against each other at every age and division.

http://www.eteamz.com/hcrpsports/standings/index.cfm?subsite=6171250

If you want to see how a very few club teams patched together a team with their name on it for a single tournament, look the Wsyl rankings.

I would add to that to make sure you have qualified and competent officials. The officials were some of the worst I have seen all summer.
They were easily intimidated and bullied and made calls to reflect that.
If you have that type of tournament and charge the type of money he charges then at least have qualified officials. I have watched other tournaments in the area and have seen college officials or top MIAA officials working the games so they must be out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes API / Diamondbacks are Number 3 in country age base teams with the Hawks and other top grade base teams will never know what would happen because they don't field a age team and that is fine . You can't compare them .

you are right, arden doesn't compare to hawks, so stop trying, whining and rationalizing. you have a nice team, why can't that be good enough......if your aunt had balls, she'd be your uncle. just let it go

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the final rankings from Millon National Championship are pretty close to the way they should be. Maybe a couple west coast and philly teams and obviously Prime Time should be included, but otherwise, these are pretty good:

1-igloo(6-0)
2-91 md(4-2)
3-hawks((4-1)
4-bethesda(4-1)
5-LI express(3-1)
6-91 LI(2-2)
7-greyhounds(3-2)
8-3d NE(3-2)
9-BBL(2-2)
10-Diamondbacks(2-2)
11-Roughriders(3-1)
12-PB revolution(1-3)
13-LI Outlaws(2-2)
14-So Cal express(1-3)
15-Madlax(1-3)
16-Superstar(1-3)
17-Team Carolina(1-3)
18-CT chargers(1-3)
19-LeggyC(0-4)
20-Triad(0-4)

Just FYI. Madlax was missing its top two scorers. One of them broke his arm at Young Guns. The other one broke his arm first game on Saturday. Really sad. Any time a team loses its top two scorers, it is going to struggle at a tournament like this one. I got to think they would have done better if they had been at full strength. Beat 91md earlier this summer.

Should have pulled an Igloo and added a player, or two, to replace the kid that broke his arm during the tournament. No need for grade verification like every other player in the tournament. Just add away at the word of a guy. So what there were other rostered players. It's cool, right?

OMG Stop crying already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the final rankings from Millon National Championship are pretty close to the way they should be. Maybe a couple west coast and philly teams and obviously Prime Time should be included, but otherwise, these are pretty good:

1-igloo(6-0)
2-91 md(4-2)
3-hawks((4-1)
4-bethesda(4-1)
5-LI express(3-1)
6-91 LI(2-2)
7-greyhounds(3-2)
8-3d NE(3-2)
9-BBL(2-2)
10-Diamondbacks(2-2)
11-Roughriders(3-1)
12-PB revolution(1-3)
13-LI Outlaws(2-2)
14-So Cal express(1-3)
15-Madlax(1-3)
16-Superstar(1-3)
17-Team Carolina(1-3)
18-CT chargers(1-3)
19-LeggyC(0-4)
20-Triad(0-4)

Just FYI. Madlax was missing its top two scorers. One of them broke his arm at Young Guns. The other one broke his arm first game on Saturday. Really sad. Any time a team loses its top two scorers, it is going to struggle at a tournament like this one. I got to think they would have done better if they had been at full strength. Beat 91md earlier this summer.

Should have pulled an Igloo and added a player, or two, to replace the kid that broke his arm during the tournament. No need for grade verification like every other player in the tournament. Just add away at the word of a guy. So what there were other rostered players. It's cool, right?

OMG Stop crying already.

How do you know the Hawks didn't add a player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Say what you want about API and any other team that went to Denver, they all went to Denver within the U13 age guidelines imposed by US Lacrosse. Every player was born after Sept 1, 2003. API is currently the #3 ranked team. Too bad Hawks and 91Md were unable to field a team. I'd love to see those teams try and compete without their holdbacks.

Is this the API mom that was pitching a fit about hold backs until one of her own players was called out by another parent. Thought for sure that her tail would still be tucked between your legs. But NO, here we go again with this played out BS.

Ranked #3 in the Anne Arundel Rec league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the final rankings from Millon National Championship are pretty close to the way they should be. Maybe a couple west coast and philly teams and obviously Prime Time should be included, but otherwise, these are pretty good:

1-igloo(6-0)
2-91 md(4-2)
3-hawks((4-1)
4-bethesda(4-1)
5-LI express(3-1)
6-91 LI(2-2)
7-greyhounds(3-2)
8-3d NE(3-2)
9-BBL(2-2)
10-Diamondbacks(2-2)
11-Roughriders(3-1)
12-PB revolution(1-3)
13-LI Outlaws(2-2)
14-So Cal express(1-3)
15-Madlax(1-3)
16-Superstar(1-3)
17-Team Carolina(1-3)
18-CT chargers(1-3)
19-LeggyC(0-4)
20-Triad(0-4)

Just FYI. Madlax was missing its top two scorers. One of them broke his arm at Young Guns. The other one broke his arm first game on Saturday. Really sad. Any time a team loses its top two scorers, it is going to struggle at a tournament like this one. I got to think they would have done better if they had been at full strength. Beat 91md earlier this summer.

Should have pulled an Igloo and added a player, or two, to replace the kid that broke his arm during the tournament. No need for grade verification like every other player in the tournament. Just add away at the word of a guy. So what there were other rostered players. It's cool, right?

OMG Stop crying already.

How do you know the Hawks didn't add a player?

Hogan should have sent some of his refs. The ones that were at that field for the 2 games I watched were TERRIBLE. One was standing in the middle of the offensive set the entire game. Had this [lacrosse] grin on his face and wouldn't move. Stupid.

And let's not get started on the 5min delay for a stick check. Millon special. I'm sure they received a bonus.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the final rankings from Millon National Championship are pretty close to the way they should be. Maybe a couple west coast and philly teams and obviously Prime Time should be included, but otherwise, these are pretty good:

1-igloo(6-0)
2-91 md(4-2)
3-hawks((4-1)
4-bethesda(4-1)
5-LI express(3-1)
6-91 LI(2-2)
7-greyhounds(3-2)
8-3d NE(3-2)
9-BBL(2-2)
10-Diamondbacks(2-2)
11-Roughriders(3-1)
12-PB revolution(1-3)
13-LI Outlaws(2-2)
14-So Cal express(1-3)
15-Madlax(1-3)
16-Superstar(1-3)
17-Team Carolina(1-3)
18-CT chargers(1-3)
19-LeggyC(0-4)
20-Triad(0-4)

Just FYI. Madlax was missing its top two scorers. One of them broke his arm at Young Guns. The other one broke his arm first game on Saturday. Really sad. Any time a team loses its top two scorers, it is going to struggle at a tournament like this one. I got to think they would have done better if they had been at full strength. Beat 91md earlier this summer.

Should have pulled an Igloo and added a player, or two, to replace the kid that broke his arm during the tournament. No need for grade verification like every other player in the tournament. Just add away at the word of a guy. So what there were other rostered players. It's cool, right?

OMG Stop crying already.

I know, right. Almost as bad as all the crying about hold backs and stuff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the final rankings from Millon National Championship are pretty close to the way they should be. Maybe a couple west coast and philly teams and obviously Prime Time should be included, but otherwise, these are pretty good:

1-igloo(6-0)
2-91 md(4-2)
3-hawks((4-1)
4-bethesda(4-1)
5-LI express(3-1)
6-91 LI(2-2)
7-greyhounds(3-2)
8-3d NE(3-2)
9-BBL(2-2)
10-Diamondbacks(2-2)
11-Roughriders(3-1)
12-PB revolution(1-3)
13-LI Outlaws(2-2)
14-So Cal express(1-3)
15-Madlax(1-3)
16-Superstar(1-3)
17-Team Carolina(1-3)
18-CT chargers(1-3)
19-LeggyC(0-4)
20-Triad(0-4)

Just FYI. Madlax was missing its top two scorers. One of them broke his arm at Young Guns. The other one broke his arm first game on Saturday. Really sad. Any time a team loses its top two scorers, it is going to struggle at a tournament like this one. I got to think they would have done better if they had been at full strength. Beat 91md earlier this summer.

Should have pulled an Igloo and added a player, or two, to replace the kid that broke his arm during the tournament. No need for grade verification like every other player in the tournament. Just add away at the word of a guy. So what there were other rostered players. It's cool, right?

OMG Stop crying already.

How do you know the Hawks didn't add a player?

Hogan should have sent some of his refs. The ones that were at that field for the 2 games I watched were TERRIBLE. One was standing in the middle of the offensive set the entire game. Had this [lacrosse] grin on his face and wouldn't move. Stupid.

And let's not get started on the 5min delay for a stick check. Millon special. I'm sure they received a bonus.

Stick checks at youth are for pure losers. Even in HS many coaches wont call it unless it so blatant . I would never call it as its means your team sucks and you cant win it on the field.

Doesn't matter season is over who gives a [lacrosse] . It's been a crazy season .. who's care about your rankings not all teams played each other so can't rank them because you don't know who would win . The season is over move on..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes API / Diamondbacks are Number 3 in country age base teams with the Hawks and other top grade base teams will never know what would happen because they don't field a age team and that is fine . You can't compare them .

you are right, arden doesn't compare to hawks, so stop trying, whining and rationalizing. you have a nice team, why can't that be good enough......if your aunt had balls, she'd be your uncle. just let it go

The real difference between the Hawks and other teams is their fogo. Without him and his 10+ extra possessions a game, the Hawks are probably an average team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes API / Diamondbacks are Number 3 in country age base teams with the Hawks and other top grade base teams will never know what would happen because they don't field a age team and that is fine . You can't compare them .

you are right, arden doesn't compare to hawks, so stop trying, whining and rationalizing. you have a nice team, why can't that be good enough......if your aunt had balls, she'd be your uncle. just let it go

The real difference between the Hawks and other teams is their fogo. Without him and his 10+ extra possessions a game, the Hawks are probably an average team.

again.....aunts, uncles

Exactly!

They got the kid from the cannons ..

Is Hawks even rank nope .. Express is ,prime time is, API/ Diamondbacks 3rd and igloo is but HAWKs nothing ... I haven't seen any rankings not in US Lacrosse .Hawks who ......nothing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't matter season is over who gives a [lacrosse] . It's been a crazy season .. who's care about your rankings not all teams played each other so can't rank them because you don't know who would win . The season is over move on..

All that matters are head to head games with the most recent meaning the most.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Hawks even rank nope .. Express is ,prime time is, API/ Diamondbacks 3rd and igloo is but HAWKs nothing ... I haven't seen any rankings not in US Lacrosse .Hawks who ......nothing

Head to head records mean nothing?

Drop a few kids, pay a $6000 a kid, play some weak teams, get on a ranking list. Seems like a great deal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overall the best competition of the summer. The tournament was very well run and it was fun to be able to watch other teams play in close proximity of each other. It was cool to see the All tournament selections.

First Team:
Attack
4 Ripley-Hawks
21 Vidunas - Greyhounds
9 Millon- Team 91 MD
3 Haberman- Igloo

Midfield
27 Loe- Igloo
22 Marlatt- Greyhounds
31 Hoffman - Team 91 LI
20 Terenzi- LI Express

Defense
15- Azbill- RoughRiders
8 -Ross - Hawks
13 Horgen-3D New England
55 Jones - Team91 MD

Goalie
19 Ruppel- RoughRiders

LSM
27 Schaller - Team 91 MD

FOGO
32 Boyd- Hawks

Any coaches kids make the team?

which faceoff kid had the penalty for the illegal stick?

who cares

Between this list, the 2nd team list, and the Honorable Mentions, all the Kids with dad coaches were listed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overall the best competition of the summer. The tournament was very well run and it was fun to be able to watch other teams play in close proximity of each other. It was cool to see the All tournament selections.

First Team:
Attack
4 Ripley-Hawks
21 Vidunas - Greyhounds
9 Millon- Team 91 MD
3 Haberman- Igloo

Midfield
27 Loe- Igloo
22 Marlatt- Greyhounds
31 Hoffman - Team 91 LI
20 Terenzi- LI Express

Defense
15- Azbill- RoughRiders
8 -Ross - Hawks
13 Horgen-3D New England
55 Jones - Team91 MD

Goalie
19 Ruppel- RoughRiders

LSM
27 Schaller - Team 91 MD

FOGO
32 Boyd- Hawks

Any coaches kids make the team?

which faceoff kid had the penalty for the illegal stick?

who cares

Between this list, the 2nd team list, and the Honorable Mentions, all the Kids with dad coaches were listed.

Of course.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overall the best competition of the summer. The tournament was very well run and it was fun to be able to watch other teams play in close proximity of each other. It was cool to see the All tournament selections.

First Team:
Attack
4 Ripley-Hawks
21 Vidunas - Greyhounds
9 Millon- Team 91 MD
3 Haberman- Igloo

Midfield
27 Loe- Igloo
22 Marlatt- Greyhounds
31 Hoffman - Team 91 LI
20 Terenzi- LI Express

Defense
15- Azbill- RoughRiders
8 -Ross - Hawks
13 Horgen-3D New England
55 Jones - Team91 MD

Goalie
19 Ruppel- RoughRiders

LSM
27 Schaller - Team 91 MD

FOGO
32 Boyd- Hawks

Any coaches kids make the team?

which faceoff kid had the penalty for the illegal stick?

who cares

Between this list, the 2nd team list, and the Honorable Mentions, all the Kids with dad coaches were listed.

Just an observation or are you implying the recognition wasn't warranted?

Hawks no ranking

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overall the best competition of the summer. The tournament was very well run and it was fun to be able to watch other teams play in close proximity of each other. It was cool to see the All tournament selections.

First Team:
Attack
4 Ripley-Hawks
21 Vidunas - Greyhounds
9 Millon- Team 91 MD
3 Haberman- Igloo

Midfield
27 Loe- Igloo
22 Marlatt- Greyhounds
31 Hoffman - Team 91 LI
20 Terenzi- LI Express

Defense
15- Azbill- RoughRiders
8 -Ross - Hawks
13 Horgen-3D New England
55 Jones - Team91 MD

Goalie
19 Ruppel- RoughRiders

LSM
27 Schaller - Team 91 MD

FOGO
32 Boyd- Hawks

Any coaches kids make the team?

which faceoff kid had the penalty for the illegal stick?

who cares

Between this list, the 2nd team list, and the Honorable Mentions, all the Kids with dad coaches were listed.

Just an observation or are you implying the recognition wasn't warranted?

The immutable truth regarding parent coached teams is that consciously or sub-consciously, their sons/daughters will be given preference and be promoted at the expense of other team players. At tournaments such as Millon, coaches are regularly asked to submit the names of their players that they wish to be considered for mention as "All-Tournament" players. Millon did not create this list on his own, but rather with that important and likely prejudiced perspective. In this way, Millon is promoting the Millon "brand", yet again, by pandering to those people that he needs to enhance his standing in the youth lacrosse community. I would suggest that some selections were very much warranted and others were not. A universal answer to your question is not possible. I can though restate that this "recognition" vehicle was and will always remain tainted when coaches are asked for their input, and their own kids are in the pool of players that can be selected. It's a power play by dad coaches, but that should not surprise anyone at this juncture.

Not sure what your beef is. If you watch the Hawks, they play pretty good lacrosse, team lacrosse, well coached and have some talent peeking through. Now maybe they are the best team, maybe they are not the best team, I don't know, don't really care who is the best 7th grade lacrosse team in the universe, but they are certainly a good lacrosse team and good lacrosse program. Ugly uniforms tho.. maybe you can rank uniforms instead of 7th grade boys?? Just a thought.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks no ranking

That is truly crazy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They got the kid from the cannons ..

did he go to tryouts last august

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overall the best competition of the summer. The tournament was very well run and it was fun to be able to watch other teams play in close proximity of each other. It was cool to see the All tournament selections.

First Team:
Attack
4 Ripley-Hawks
21 Vidunas - Greyhounds
9 Millon- Team 91 MD
3 Haberman- Igloo

Midfield
27 Loe- Igloo
22 Marlatt- Greyhounds
31 Hoffman - Team 91 LI
20 Terenzi- LI Express

Defense
15- Azbill- RoughRiders
8 -Ross - Hawks
13 Horgen-3D New England
55 Jones - Team91 MD

Goalie
19 Ruppel- RoughRiders

LSM
27 Schaller - Team 91 MD

FOGO
32 Boyd- Hawks

Any coaches kids make the team?

which faceoff kid had the penalty for the illegal stick?

who cares

Between this list, the 2nd team list, and the Honorable Mentions, all the Kids with dad coaches were listed.

As it should be!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overall the best competition of the summer. The tournament was very well run and it was fun to be able to watch other teams play in close proximity of each other. It was cool to see the All tournament selections.

First Team:
Attack
4 Ripley-Hawks
21 Vidunas - Greyhounds
9 Millon- Team 91 MD
3 Haberman- Igloo

Midfield
27 Loe- Igloo
22 Marlatt- Greyhounds
31 Hoffman - Team 91 LI
20 Terenzi- LI Express

Defense
15- Azbill- RoughRiders
8 -Ross - Hawks
13 Horgen-3D New England
55 Jones - Team91 MD

Goalie
19 Ruppel- RoughRiders

LSM
27 Schaller - Team 91 MD

FOGO
32 Boyd- Hawks

Any coaches kids make the team?

who cares

Between this list, the 2nd team list, and the Honorable Mentions, all the Kids with dad coaches were listed.

Just an observation or are you implying the recognition wasn't warranted?

The immutable truth regarding parent coached teams is that consciously or sub-consciously, their sons/daughters will be given preference and be promoted at the expense of other team players. At tournaments such as Millon, coaches are regularly asked to submit the names of their players that they wish to be considered for mention as "All-Tournament" players. Millon did not create this list on his own, but rather with that important and likely prejudiced perspective. In this way, Millon is promoting the Millon "brand", yet again, by pandering to those people that he needs to enhance his standing in the youth lacrosse community. I would suggest that some selections were very much warranted and others were not. A universal answer to your question is not possible. I can though restate that this "recognition" vehicle was and will always remain tainted when coaches are asked for their input, and their own kids are in the pool of players that can be selected. It's a power play by dad coaches, but that should not surprise anyone at this juncture.

Million is starting to get a bad reputation. Between the ugly behavior against other youth players and his ego driven easy to see own son complete bias and now this.

Does anyone actually think he is a decent person doing the right thing?

Between this list, the 2nd team list, and the Honorable Mentions, all the Kids with dad coaches were listed.
[/quote]

Just an observation or are you implying the recognition wasn't warranted?[/quote]

The immutable truth regarding parent coached teams is that consciously or sub-consciously, their sons/daughters will be given preference and be promoted at the expense of other team players. At tournaments such as Millon, coaches are regularly asked to submit the names of their players that they wish to be considered for mention as "All-Tournament" players. Millon did not create this list on his own, but rather with that important and likely prejudiced perspective. In this way, Millon is promoting the Millon "brand", yet again, by pandering to those people that he needs to enhance his standing in the youth lacrosse community. I would suggest that some selections were very much warranted and others were not. A universal answer to your question is not possible. I can though restate that this "recognition" vehicle was and will always remain tainted when coaches are asked for their input, and their own kids are in the pool of players that can be selected. It's a power play by dad coaches, but that should not surprise anyone at this juncture.[/quote]

A fairly reasoned answer which goes off the rails at its end. You state a "universal answer" is not possible, and that some selections were warranted and some not. Then to close, you paint all with the same brush by calling it a power play by dad coaches, implying, I think, it impossible that the son of any "dad coach" could be worthy. Do you really think that's the case? If so, can't believe you watched the same tournament that I did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They got the kid from the cannons ..

did he go to tryouts last august

He's been with the Hawks Two seasons

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the final rankings from Millon National Championship are pretty close to the way they should be. Maybe a couple west coast and philly teams and obviously Prime Time should be included, but otherwise, these are pretty good:

1-igloo(6-0)
2-91 md(4-2)
3-hawks((4-1)
4-bethesda(4-1)
5-LI express(3-1)
6-91 LI(2-2)
7-greyhounds(3-2)
8-3d NE(3-2)
9-BBL(2-2)
10-Diamondbacks(2-2)
11-Roughriders(3-1)
12-PB revolution(1-3)
13-LI Outlaws(2-2)
14-So Cal express(1-3)
15-Madlax(1-3)
16-Superstar(1-3)
17-Team Carolina(1-3)
18-CT chargers(1-3)
19-LeggyC(0-4)
20-Triad(0-4)

Just FYI. Madlax was missing its top two scorers. One of them broke his arm at Young Guns. The other one broke his arm first game on Saturday. Really sad. Any time a team loses its top two scorers, it is going to struggle at a tournament like this one. I got to think they would have done better if they had been at full strength. Beat 91md earlier this summer.

Should have pulled an Igloo and added a player, or two, to replace the kid that broke his arm during the tournament. No need for grade verification like every other player in the tournament. Just add away at the word of a guy. So what there were other rostered players. It's cool, right?

OMG Stop crying already.

How do you know the Hawks didn't add a player?

Hogan should have sent some of his refs. The ones that were at that field for the 2 games I watched were TERRIBLE. One was standing in the middle of the offensive set the entire game. Had this [lacrosse] grin on his face and wouldn't move. Stupid.

And let's not get started on the 5min delay for a stick check. Millon special. I'm sure they received a bonus.

Stick checks at youth are for pure losers. Even in HS many coaches wont call it unless it so blatant . I would never call it as its means your team sucks and you cant win it on the field.

Any truth to rumor that Millon swapped his fogo's stick with a backup stick when his refs went to check the game stick?

2022 parents are really dillusional and simply just some nasty parents... The Crap you guys post about each others team is really emabarrasing.... You all should be ashamed of yourselves

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Overall the best competition of the summer. The tournament was very well run and it was fun to be able to watch other teams play in close proximity of each other. It was cool to see the All tournament selections.

First Team:
Attack
4 Ripley-Hawks
21 Vidunas - Greyhounds
9 Millon- Team 91 MD
3 Haberman- Igloo

Midfield
27 Loe- Igloo
22 Marlatt- Greyhounds
31 Hoffman - Team 91 LI
20 Terenzi- LI Express

Defense
15- Azbill- RoughRiders
8 -Ross - Hawks

Just an observation or are you implying the recognition wasn't warranted?

The immutable truth regarding parent coached teams is that consciously or sub-consciously, their sons/daughters will be given preference and be promoted at the expense of other team players. At tournaments such as Millon, coaches are regularly asked to submit the names of their players that they wish to be considered for mention as "All-Tournament" players. Millon did not create this list on his own, but rather with that important and likely prejudiced perspective. In this way, Millon is promoting the Millon "brand", yet again, by pandering to those people that he needs to enhance his standing in the youth lacrosse community. I would suggest that some selections were very much warranted and others were not. A universal answer to your question is not possible. I can though restate that this "recognition" vehicle was and will always remain tainted when coaches are asked for their input, and their own kids are in the pool of players that can be selected. It's a power play by dad coaches, but that should not surprise anyone at this juncture.

Million is starting to get a bad reputation. Between the ugly behavior against other youth players and his ego driven easy to see own son complete bias and now this.

Does anyone actually think he is a decent person doing the right thing?

Absolutely not! He is all about himself and his son!

Any truth to rumor that Millon swapped his fogo's stick with a backup stick when his refs went to check the game stick?

No way! Watched the game and the FOGO's stick was the one he was using. This must be from a Hawk's parent grasping for anything to justify their lose!

Big push by USL today for official rankings of all club teams using age cutoffs across potentially all tournaments using Tourney Machine.

Any chance this will make the clubs go age based?

Actually, if any top level club came out and said they are only fielding age based teams, I'd have my kid attend the tryouts to see what the turnout looked like.

Hope so

No. The US Lacrosse position will not make all clubs go age based. They made a deal with NXT and Got Soccer to try to capture the revenue in the events business but still offer no value. US Lacrosse may care about the sport and the kids, but it is not enough to support their bahemoth annual expenses. They need revenue and the insurance gig and benefactor support doesn't sustain them. They tried to force memberships- not enough. So now, they will enter another line of business and the split occurs. Tournaments and teams divided into the haves and have nots if you will. Us Lacrosse can put their fence around the have nots and maintain control and receipts as best they can. The haves are the top clubs- they have the players and the relationships. The have conferences and events. They have the talent- the product- the value. The have nots are the bulk of the market (where the money is) that are not top flight lacrosse teams and programs but represent the largest portion of the tournament circuit. So at the common-man's expense and on the back of the everyday lacrosse player, we will now be told who to buy our insurance from, where we can play, how we can play and in turn pay these same people for decreasing value and accountability for taking away the freedom of the sport. Let it be. Freedom of choice we have and we choose despite not always liking all of our options. Now the choice if you are not on a top flight club team, will be gone. If the mission of US Lacrosse is to make more money, along side NXT and advertisers, to support themselves, they just took a big step in that direction- but it will be at the sports and their family's expense. US Lacrosse should tell us the truth. They need money, they need new lines of revenue, and despite have 120 employees and 400 volunteers, they have no idea how to do it themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2022 parents are really dillusional and simply just some nasty parents... The Crap you guys post about each others team is really emabarrasing.... You all should be ashamed of yourselves

Easy there little girl. Sorry if your feelings got hurt... .. Dillusional should be delusional and emabarrasing should be embarrassing ...Little on the stupid side too!

How is the legacy B team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the legacy B team?

I don't think there is a legacy B team in Maryland.

Legacy is a Long Island program

What clubs are doing the Fall DMV PREMIER LACROSSE LEAGUE in Bethesda?

Seems like it could be a good league with games on Sundays.

Definitely see Bethesda, Next Level, DC Express, and what’s left of Club Blue.

In past Madlax, Cavalier, MDX, Lax Factory have participated

Good way to just get a game in every Sunday when not playing football, hockey, soccer for few weeks

Hearing some squads from further out are considering

Is there going to be much movement this year on the MD clubs? Will kids go to Crabs as they usually do in 8th grade considering how week that team has been over the last few years? Same question for FCA. If so, where will these kids be coming from? Will anyone be able to compete with Hawks this spring?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there going to be much movement this year on the MD clubs? Will kids go to Crabs as they usually do in 8th grade considering how week that team has been over the last few years? Same question for FCA. If so, where will these kids be coming from? Will anyone be able to compete with Hawks this spring?

Lots of 8th graders repeating for the Baltimore and Bethesda teams. A few in Annapolis also.

The best teams will probably be the ones that recruit this former 2021 talent new to 2022.

The HoCo standings could flip entirely next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there going to be much movement this year on the MD clubs? Will kids go to Crabs as they usually do in 8th grade considering how week that team has been over the last few years? Same question for FCA. If so, where will these kids be coming from? Will anyone be able to compete with Hawks this spring?

A lot of people are looking to see what all the reclassed 2021 Koopers kids and 2022 Koopers kids playing up on 2021 are going to do.

Koopers 2022 could get really good really quick.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there going to be much movement this year on the MD clubs? Will kids go to Crabs as they usually do in 8th grade considering how week that team has been over the last few years? Same question for FCA. If so, where will these kids be coming from? Will anyone be able to compete with Hawks this spring?

A lot of people are looking to see what all the reclassed 2021 Koopers kids and 2022 Koopers kids playing up on 2021 are going to do.

Koopers 2022 could get really good really quick.

Well Crabs has been telling parents that the koopers kids are coming there so it must be true.....

Koopers 2022 is the next big thing... I heard lots of kids heading that way...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Koopers 2022 is the next big thing... I heard lots of kids heading that way...

Nope API

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Koopers 2022 is the next big thing... I heard lots of kids heading that way...

Nope API

Have they fully embraced holdbacks? or still taking them on their team while trashing them at the same time?

Yes, meant legacy B on Long Island? Do they take a lot of players for each position?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Koopers 2022 is the next big thing... I heard lots of kids heading that way...

Where are these kids coming from? Why would they leave established teams to join a koopers team that plays in the B division of HOCO and tournaments.

because koopers has a handful of the best 2022s around they just happen to play for koopers 2021. now that their team is moving onto high school these kids have to drop down to 2022 and play on age and koopers will be the best team around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

because koopers has a handful of the best 2022s around they just happen to play for koopers 2021. now that their team is moving onto high school these kids have to drop down to 2022 and play on age and koopers will be the best team around.

And some of their legit 2021s are reclassing this year to become 2022s for the spring.(club owners kid for one)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

because koopers has a handful of the best 2022s around they just happen to play for koopers 2021. now that their team is moving onto high school these kids have to drop down to 2022 and play on age and koopers will be the best team around.

And some of their legit 2021s are reclassing this year to become 2022s for the spring.(club owners kid for one)

That doesn't mean they are moving to the 2022 team. They can continue to play for the 21s in fall and summer, just won't have a 21 team in HOCO obviously.

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Hoco has a rule that kids an only be on one team.

"Players may only play for one team in this conference. Any player on more then one roster will result in the forfeiture of all games scheduled for both teams and the removal of the player from the conference. Each coach should check with the player’s parents to ensure that the player is only on one roster."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Hoco has a rule that kids an only be on one team.

"Players may only play for one team in this conference. Any player on more then one roster will result in the forfeiture of all games scheduled for both teams and the removal of the player from the conference. Each coach should check with the player’s parents to ensure that the player is only on one roster."

Exactly. So are the kids that play for API, FCA, 91, etc going to leave API, 91 and FCA to play on this team? If so, what will they do come summer?

Well if they are good enough to play for a National team they will just go back to the club after HOCO. News flash the best players can come and go as they please.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well if they are good enough to play for a National team they will just go back to the club after HOCO. News flash the best players can come and go as they please.

Clubs would let these kids play for Dukes in the spring and then come back for summer? I doubt that. I don't care how good they are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Hoco has a rule that kids an only be on one team.

"Players may only play for one team in this conference. Any player on more then one roster will result in the forfeiture of all games scheduled for both teams and the removal of the player from the conference. Each coach should check with the player’s parents to ensure that the player is only on one roster."

Exactly. So are the kids that play for API, FCA, 91, etc going to leave API, 91 and FCA to play on this team? If so, what will they do come summer?

Dukes will play in 4-5 tournaments during the summer-Dukes will be their team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Hoco has a rule that kids an only be on one team.

"Players may only play for one team in this conference. Any player on more then one roster will result in the forfeiture of all games scheduled for both teams and the removal of the player from the conference. Each coach should check with the player’s parents to ensure that the player is only on one roster."

Exactly. So are the kids that play for API, FCA, 91, etc going to leave API, 91 and FCA to play on this team? If so, what will they do come summer?

Dukes will play in 4-5 tournaments during the summer-Dukes will be their team.

I doubt seriously that kids are going to leave their regular clubs for Dukes. Dukes is fine for supplementing your time on the field, but anyone serious about development isn't going to forego twice or thrice weekly practices with a local team to travel to PA or NY for a "combine" every few weeks. Hard to imagine Dukes kids from the Northeast traveling weekly to Howard County for a one hour game as well. If they were going to just branch off and do a MD Dukes team, maybe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Hoco has a rule that kids an only be on one team.

"Players may only play for one team in this conference. Any player on more then one roster will result in the forfeiture of all games scheduled for both teams and the removal of the player from the conference. Each coach should check with the player’s parents to ensure that the player is only on one roster."

Exactly. So are the kids that play for API, FCA, 91, etc going to leave API, 91 and FCA to play on this team? If so, what will they do come summer?

Dukes will play in 4-5 tournaments during the summer-Dukes will be their team.

There is no way kids will play exclusively for Dukes. They only practice once a month and not at all in the summer months.

There is something else going on with these kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Hoco has a rule that kids an only be on one team.

"Players may only play for one team in this conference. Any player on more then one roster will result in the forfeiture of all games scheduled for both teams and the removal of the player from the conference. Each coach should check with the player’s parents to ensure that the player is only on one roster."

Exactly. So are the kids that play for API, FCA, 91, etc going to leave API, 91 and FCA to play on this team? If so, what will they do come summer?

go back to Denver in search of World domination

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Hoco has a rule that kids an only be on one team.

"Players may only play for one team in this conference. Any player on more then one roster will result in the forfeiture of all games scheduled for both teams and the removal of the player from the conference. Each coach should check with the player’s parents to ensure that the player is only on one roster."

Exactly. So are the kids that play for API, FCA, 91, etc going to leave API, 91 and FCA to play on this team? If so, what will they do come summer?

go back to Denver in search of World domination

You Hawks parents have a real problem with API for some reason. You beat them easily so why all the hate? Maybe you should be more concerned that the team that ran you off the field at Naptown is going to play in HOCO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Hoco has a rule that kids an only be on one team.

"Players may only play for one team in this conference. Any player on more then one roster will result in the forfeiture of all games scheduled for both teams and the removal of the player from the conference. Each coach should check with the player’s parents to ensure that the player is only on one roster."

Exactly. So are the kids that play for API, FCA, 91, etc going to leave API, 91 and FCA to play on this team? If so, what will they do come summer?

go back to Denver in search of World domination

You Hawks parents have a real problem with API for some reason. You beat them easily so why all the hate? Maybe you should be more concerned that the team that ran you off the field at Naptown is going to play in HOCO.

Biff Jr will just tryout and play for the Dbags in the B division

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Hoco has a rule that kids an only be on one team.

"Players may only play for one team in this conference. Any player on more then one roster will result in the forfeiture of all games scheduled for both teams and the removal of the player from the conference. Each coach should check with the player’s parents to ensure that the player is only on one roster."

Exactly. So are the kids that play for API, FCA, 91, etc going to leave API, 91 and FCA to play on this team? If so, what will they do come summer?

go back to Denver in search of World domination

You Hawks parents have a real problem with API for some reason. You beat them easily so why all the hate? Maybe you should be more concerned that the team that ran you off the field at Naptown is going to play in HOCO.

Dback parents were arrogant dicks in 4th and 5th grade. Hawks parents are dicks in 6th and 7th grade. It's what happens when you are on top and all the kids are on the same football and basketball teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well if they are good enough to play for a National team they will just go back to the club after HOCO. News flash the best players can come and go as they please.

... the best players on mediocre club teams can come and go as they please. No club playing over .500 is letting their kids skip practices and games for an all star team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Hoco has a rule that kids an only be on one team.

"Players may only play for one team in this conference. Any player on more then one roster will result in the forfeiture of all games scheduled for both teams and the removal of the player from the conference. Each coach should check with the player’s parents to ensure that the player is only on one roster."

Exactly. So are the kids that play for API, FCA, 91, etc going to leave API, 91 and FCA to play on this team? If so, what will they do come summer?

go back to Denver in search of World domination

You Hawks parents have a real problem with API for some reason. You beat them easily so why all the hate? Maybe you should be more concerned that the team that ran you off the field at Naptown is going to play in HOCO.

The competition win or lose is welcomed. Iron sharpens iron. We don't get better playing the #3 team in the world who just rolls over and plays dead against us

#18-6
#10-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Hoco has a rule that kids an only be on one team.

"Players may only play for one team in this conference. Any player on more then one roster will result in the forfeiture of all games scheduled for both teams and the removal of the player from the conference. Each coach should check with the player’s parents to ensure that the player is only on one roster."

Exactly. So are the kids that play for API, FCA, 91, etc going to leave API, 91 and FCA to play on this team? If so, what will they do come summer?

go back to Denver in search of World domination

You Hawks parents have a real problem with API for some reason. You beat them easily so why all the hate? Maybe you should be more concerned that the team that ran you off the field at Naptown is going to play in HOCO.

The competition win or lose is welcomed. Iron sharpens iron. We don't get better playing the #3 team in the world who just rolls over and plays dead against us

#18-6
#10-3

Who's we? I assume this must be a player since you were referring to "we" and if so, you wrote this pretty late at night for a 15 year old.

That is funny! Also there is not way a 15 year old would know how to post on a board like this. It is not an Instagram Story, Snapchat, or Face Party. In addition, the 15 year old does not have time at night to post. But the biggest clue it is NOT a Hawks player is that they would be likely 16 or 17 not 15.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rumor that Dukes Nationals is playing in HOCO next spring. Are people leaving their clubs to play for this team considering several of them are from existing HOCO teams?

Hoco has a rule that kids an only be on one team.

"Players may only play for one team in this conference. Any player on more then one roster will result in the forfeiture of all games scheduled for both teams and the removal of the player from the conference. Each coach should check with the player’s parents to ensure that the player is only on one roster."

Exactly. So are the kids that play for API, FCA, 91, etc going to leave API, 91 and FCA to play on this team? If so, what will they do come summer?

go back to Denver in search of World domination

You Hawks parents have a real problem with API for some reason. You beat them easily so why all the hate? Maybe you should be more concerned that the team that ran you off the field at Naptown is going to play in HOCO.

The competition win or lose is welcomed. Iron sharpens iron. We don't get better playing the #3 team in the world who just rolls over and plays dead against us

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Hawks having 2 teams this year? Will the be mostly made up of API kids?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks having 2 teams this year? Will the be mostly made up of API kids?

Hawks want to have a B team every year and the kids never show up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks having 2 teams this year? Will the be mostly made up of API kids?

Will be a solid B team if the Dbacks come over. A lot of coaches too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks having 2 teams this year? Will the be mostly made up of API kids?

Will be a solid B team if the Dbacks come over. A lot of coaches too

Just not that many kids that want to pay $2k to be on a B team. Just as good coaches on sidewinders for 1/4 the cost.

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks having 2 teams this year? Will the be mostly made up of API kids?

Will be a solid B team if the Dbacks come over. A lot of coaches too

Just not that many kids that want to pay $2k to be on a B team. Just as good coaches on sidewinders for 1/4 the cost.

The cost for sidewinders is $1500 plus players have to sell $200 of fundraising cards, hardly a 1/4 of the cost

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

All Elite 2022 teams have kids that should be going into high school.

You really should be playing rec if you still have a hang up with this fact after 4 years of these rules being in place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

See you and your son at tryouts Dave G. We know you are already signed up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

All Elite 2022 teams have kids that should be going into high school.

You really should be playing rec if you still have a hang up with this fact after 4 years of these rules being in place.

I agree. I am all for older kids playing younger kids. seems perfectly fine to me and fair for youth sports...and remember , the rules say we can!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

All Elite 2022 teams have kids that should be going into high school.

You really should be playing rec if you still have a hang up with this fact after 4 years of these rules being in place.

I agree. I am all for older kids playing younger kids. seems perfectly fine to me and fair for youth sports...and remember , the rules say we can!!

I think most people agree it is an unfair way to run things but to blame one club for doing it as if no other team does just sounds like you are ignorant of how club lacrosse works.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

just not true

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

just not true

While the guy is a [lacrosse] and uses poor grammar, what exactly isn't true? They do have a bunch of holdbacks and got run off the field by Dukes 10-4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

just not true

While the guy is a [lacrosse] and uses poor grammar, what exactly isn't true? They do have a bunch of holdbacks and got run off the field by Dukes 10-4.

The actual number of holdbacks on each team is unknown. But a National all star team did convincingly beat a local team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

just not true

While the guy is a [lacrosse] and uses poor grammar, what exactly isn't true? They do have a bunch of holdbacks and got run off the field by Dukes 10-4.

The actual number of holdbacks on each team is unknown. But a National all star team did convincingly beat a local team.

I would hope so, being a national team and all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

just not true

While the guy is a [lacrosse] and uses poor grammar, what exactly isn't true? They do have a bunch of holdbacks and got run off the field by Dukes 10-4.

what is your definition of a bunch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

just not true

While the guy is a [lacrosse] and uses poor grammar, what exactly isn't true? They do have a bunch of holdbacks and got run off the field by Dukes 10-4.

The actual number of holdbacks on each team is unknown. But a National all star team did convincingly beat a local team.

I would hope so, being a national team and all.

And having a number of holdbacks themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Son just told me that all the 2022's on the 2021 Koopers are now playing Duke's Nationals. Re class Crabs, two Hawks mids, Bathesda top guys and more have joined Nationals. They are also joining the HOCO league???
What the [lacrosse] is going on?????

Poor grammar you are correct so I must be a hawk so I will reclassified...

I guess the best players go to where the best players play??...?? The Dukes website alumni list is pretty impressive: Tewaaraton winner, Tewaaraton finalists, D1 all-americans, professionals, champions, etc. I have to admit its pretty impressive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Son just told me that all the 2022's on the 2021 Koopers are now playing Duke's Nationals. Re class Crabs, two Hawks mids, Bathesda top guys and more have joined Nationals. They are also joining the HOCO league???
What the [lacrosse] is going on?????

Where have you been? The Koopers kids already play for Dukes. It was posted earlier in this forum that Dukes is playing HOCO this spring. The list of other players you mention is not correct though. There will be a few kids from other HOCO teams leaving but many of the team will be from out of town as well as the Koopers 21 team that don't have a spring team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

just not true

While the guy is a [lacrosse] and uses poor grammar, what exactly isn't true? They do have a bunch of holdbacks and got run off the field by Dukes 10-4.

what is your definition of a bunch

4 Hawks summer birthdays are "a bunch" of holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Son just told me that all the 2022's on the 2021 Koopers are now playing Duke's Nationals. Re class Crabs, two Hawks mids, Bathesda top guys and more have joined Nationals. They are also joining the HOCO league???
What the [lacrosse] is going on?????

The era of the golden state Super teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Son just told me that all the 2022's on the 2021 Koopers are now playing Duke's Nationals. Re class Crabs, two Hawks mids, Bathesda top guys and more have joined Nationals. They are also joining the HOCO league???
What the [lacrosse] is going on?????

Wow, that's a lot of kids going up to Hofstra for try-outs. (Assuming there isn't some double standard).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

Pretty sad when (gonzo) dukes guys post on every forum about their tryout

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Son just told me that all the 2022's on the 2021 Koopers are now playing Duke's Nationals. Re class Crabs, two Hawks mids, Bathesda top guys and more have joined Nationals. They are also joining the HOCO league???
What the [lacrosse] is going on?????

Hawks could add 4-5 2021s themselves plus some of the Dbacks. So they will try their best to compete. They will be replacing a bunch of multiyear players and have been planning this all year. They are teying ro replace 1 or 2 at every postion. Will be interesting to see where the cut Hawks end up. Hope you didn't fall for that loyalty and team crap. Hahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

just not true

While the guy is a [lacrosse] and uses poor grammar, what exactly isn't true? They do have a bunch of holdbacks and got run off the field by Dukes 10-4.

what is your definition of a bunch

4 Hawks summer birthdays are "a bunch" of holdbacks.

4 is not a bunch of anything, i would also think in this day and age that a lot of teams 4 would put you on the

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess the best players go to where the best players play??...?? The Dukes website alumni list is pretty impressive: Tewaaraton winner, Tewaaraton finalists, D1 all-americans, professionals, champions, etc. I have to admit its pretty impressive.

you could see a lot of the same names on other club's alumni lists

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Son just told me that all the 2022's on the 2021 Koopers are now playing Duke's Nationals. Re class Crabs, two Hawks mids, Bathesda top guys and more have joined Nationals. They are also joining the HOCO league???
What the [lacrosse] is going on?????

I'm hearing similar rumors! I guess the question is why are all these players migrating to Duke's Nationals out of nowhere?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

just not true

While the guy is a [lacrosse] and uses poor grammar, what exactly isn't true? They do have a bunch of holdbacks and got run off the field by Dukes 10-4.

what is your definition of a bunch

4 Hawks summer birthdays are "a bunch" of holdbacks.

4 is not a bunch of anything, i would also think in this day and age that a lot of teams 4 would put you on the

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess the best players go to where the best players play??...?? The Dukes website alumni list is pretty impressive: Tewaaraton winner, Tewaaraton finalists, D1 all-americans, professionals, champions, etc. I have to admit its pretty impressive.

you could see a lot of the same names on other club's alumni lists

You probably could see many names on other teams lists! So the hundreds of names on the Duke's alumni list must be a FLUKE!!!! Drew Adams, Greg Gurenlian, Joey Sankey, Jordan Wolf, Matt Rambo, Mike Sowers, Niko Amato, Tucker Durkin, Austin Pifani, just to name a few. LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Son just told me that all the 2022's on the 2021 Koopers are now playing Duke's Nationals. Re class Crabs, two Hawks mids, Bathesda top guys and more have joined Nationals. They are also joining the HOCO league???
What the [lacrosse] is going on?????

The era of the golden state Super teams.

haha! I think your right! THE SUPER TEAM ERA HAS BEGUN

its seems that people are sick of the crabs screaming and yelling, afraid to be associated with 91MD, don't live near the Hawks, or don't go to calvert hall so no HS FCA team/national FCA team as the younger teams are different type of program than their HS teams. Dukes comes in and offers a national team with kids from all over that isn't a huge time commitment but probably great lacrosse given their alumni as another poster pointed out. If I had a kid that could play for his local club and a national team a few times a year... why not?? more fun and more experience. A lot better than playing the same kids over and over and over. what am i missing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Son just told me that all the 2022's on the 2021 Koopers are now playing Duke's Nationals. Re class Crabs, two Hawks mids, Bathesda top guys and more have joined Nationals. They are also joining the HOCO league???
What the [lacrosse] is going on?????

Hawks could add 4-5 2021s themselves plus some of the Dbacks. So they will try their best to compete. They will be replacing a bunch of multiyear players and have been planning this all year. They are teying ro replace 1 or 2 at every postion. Will be interesting to see where the cut Hawks end up. Hope you didn't fall for that loyalty and team crap. Hahaha

You really are a bitter little man

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

just not true

While the guy is a [lacrosse] and uses poor grammar, what exactly isn't true? They do have a bunch of holdbacks and got run off the field by Dukes 10-4.

what is your definition of a bunch

4 Hawks summer birthdays are "a bunch" of holdbacks.

4 is not a bunch of anything, i would also think in this day and age that a lot of teams 4 would put you on the

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess the best players go to where the best players play??...?? The Dukes website alumni list is pretty impressive: Tewaaraton winner, Tewaaraton finalists, D1 all-americans, professionals, champions, etc. I have to admit its pretty impressive.

you could see a lot of the same names on other club's alumni lists

You probably could see many names on other teams lists! So the hundreds of names on the Duke's alumni list must be a FLUKE!!!! Drew Adams, Greg Gurenlian, Joey Sankey, Jordan Wolf, Matt Rambo, Mike Sowers, Niko Amato, Tucker Durkin, Austin Pifani, just to name a few. LOL[/quote]

No fluke but more of a college visibility thing than a true club coaching and developing thing. Just like crabs had the top high school kids for a couple tourneys to get in front of coaches, Dukes does as well. Remember Paul Rabil was a Crab for ONE (1) tournament and now his picture is the face of their website.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Son just told me that all the 2022's on the 2021 Koopers are now playing Duke's Nationals. Re class Crabs, two Hawks mids, Bathesda top guys and more have joined Nationals. They are also joining the HOCO league???
What the [lacrosse] is going on?????

Hawks could add 4-5 2021s themselves plus some of the Dbacks. So they will try their best to compete. They will be replacing a bunch of multiyear players and have been planning this all year. They are teying ro replace 1 or 2 at every postion. Will be interesting to see where the cut Hawks end up. Hope you didn't fall for that loyalty and team crap. Hahaha

You really are a bitter little man

I feel bad for the kids and their families who are getting replaced but I do get a kick out of their hypocrisy. They actually believe that loyalty and team stuff they talk about. We will see a few of the Soon to be cut Hawks at tryouts. The world won't end if Biff JR has to play on Another club. You can bet that a few of the parents are actually hoping to get cut. Remember, we all know each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

its seems that people are sick of the crabs screaming and yelling, afraid to be associated with 91MD, don't live near the Hawks, or don't go to calvert hall so no HS FCA team/national FCA team as the younger teams are different type of program than their HS teams. Dukes comes in and offers a national team with kids from all over that isn't a huge time commitment but probably great lacrosse given their alumni as another poster pointed out. If I had a kid that could play for his local club and a national team a few times a year... why not?? more fun and more experience. A lot better than playing the same kids over and over and over. what am i missing?

Who in their right mind is driving up from Baltimore to Hofstra to try out for a National Team. Toll, gas, hotels and registration fees? Much better off hiring a great position coach to work on fundamentals and play on a good to great club team. Folks from Bmore don't need to travel to NY or Philly to find good coaching or competition. Sorry that dog won't hunt.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

just not true

While the guy is a [lacrosse] and uses poor grammar, what exactly isn't true? They do have a bunch of holdbacks and got run off the field by Dukes 10-4.

what is your definition of a bunch

4 Hawks summer birthdays are "a bunch" of holdbacks.

4 is not a bunch of anything, i would also think in this day and age that a lot of teams 4 would put you on the

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess the best players go to where the best players play??...?? The Dukes website alumni list is pretty impressive: Tewaaraton winner, Tewaaraton finalists, D1 all-americans, professionals, champions, etc. I have to admit its pretty impressive.

you could see a lot of the same names on other club's alumni lists

You probably could see many names on other teams lists! So the hundreds of names on the Duke's alumni list must be a FLUKE!!!! Drew Adams, Greg Gurenlian, Joey Sankey, Jordan Wolf, Matt Rambo, Mike Sowers, Niko Amato, Tucker Durkin, Austin Pifani, just to name a few. LOL[/quote]

No fluke but more of a college visibility thing than a true club coaching and developing thing. Just like crabs had the top high school kids for a couple tourneys to get in front of coaches, Dukes does as well. Remember Paul Rabil was a Crab for ONE (1) tournament and now his picture is the face of their website.
[/quote]

All of those names on the Dukes Alumni list are from the Dukes High school club. That club used to be the only high level high school lacrosse club in the Philly and South Jersey area. It would basically be like forming one high school team from all of D.C, Baltimore, Northern Va and Annapolis. Now there are many more high school clubs in the area and the Dukes HS teams are good but their monopoly on the talent pool is over. Dukes Nationals will never have HS teams, because there is already a Dukes LC high school model in place that has been successful for over 20 years and the original Dukes owner will never let DN overtake his brand. DN's model is a money grab, nothing more

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Shouldn't have the Hawks team been in high school next year ...we are so great at lacrosse I can beat kids that I'm 2 years older then .mom and dad be proud of me because I can't play kids my own age I wouldn't be good. The Hawks couldn't win the big one when other teams had equal amount of holdbacks. Choke 10-4

just not true

While the guy is a [lacrosse] and uses poor grammar, what exactly isn't true? They do have a bunch of holdbacks and got run off the field by Dukes 10-4.

what is your definition of a bunch

4 Hawks summer birthdays are "a bunch" of holdbacks.

4 is not a bunch of anything, i would also think in this day and age that a lot of teams 4 would put you on the

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess the best players go to where the best players play??...?? The Dukes website alumni list is pretty impressive: Tewaaraton winner, Tewaaraton finalists, D1 all-americans, professionals, champions, etc. I have to admit its pretty impressive.

you could see a lot of the same names on other club's alumni lists

You probably could see many names on other teams lists! So the hundreds of names on the Duke's alumni list must be a FLUKE!!!! Drew Adams, Greg Gurenlian, Joey Sankey, Jordan Wolf, Matt Rambo, Mike Sowers, Niko Amato, Tucker Durkin, Austin Pifani, just to name a few. LOL[/quote]

It is a FLUKE!!!! in that anyone could assemble a group of players that other have trained, play in tournaments, win a few and then beat their chest about being a great program. any alumni list is skewed, I'm sure those same names that you posted appear on someone else's website also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

This is the Director Gonzo - Bozo trying to spark interest in this assbag team. He posted this in every forum. Loser.

Actually you are reading and replying in every forum... I would say that makes you the loser and he the winner...

I wouldn't be so quick to call him a loser. Didn't they just put a beat down on the hawks 10-4? Seems like the interest is there and growing... and yes, Dukes Nationals is having a tryout on August 5 at Hofstra. All age groups under 9th grade. We are going to check it out to see what this "loser" is doing so well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Son just told me that all the 2022's on the 2021 Koopers are now playing Duke's Nationals. Re class Crabs, two Hawks mids, Bathesda top guys and more have joined Nationals. They are also joining the HOCO league???
What the [lacrosse] is going on?????

Hawks could add 4-5 2021s themselves plus some of the Dbacks. So they will try their best to compete. They will be replacing a bunch of multiyear players and have been planning this all year. They are teying ro replace 1 or 2 at every postion. Will be interesting to see where the cut Hawks end up. Hope you didn't fall for that loyalty and team crap. Hahaha

You really are a bitter little man

I feel bad for the kids and their families who are getting replaced but I do get a kick out of their hypocrisy. They actually believe that loyalty and team stuff they talk about. We will see a few of the Soon to be cut Hawks at tryouts. The world won't end if Biff JR has to play on Another club. You can bet that a few of the parents are actually hoping to get cut. Remember, we all know each other.

since you anonymously know everyone and your little fibb was obviously cut by the hawks, why would you feel bad for a family if they secretly want to get cut. wouldn't you be happy for them, since they are getting what they and YOU want,

Pathetic commentary from some really sad parents. The ignorance to these teams is unreal. Please stop living through your sons club lacrosse career. Land the chopper and go watch some videos of games where you sound like a complete [lacrosse]. Then come on here bashing every team that beats up on your kids team, not your team but your kids team. Calling kids out on this site is the worse. jersey numbers , calling them cheaters-choking and every other insult.
Maybe you should let your kid see what you write about his,teammates,classmates,peers,opponents and friends. Too much talent and too many good kids on every team to be on here doing the bashing and [lacrosse] talking . Especially kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Son just told me that all the 2022's on the 2021 Koopers are now playing Duke's Nationals. Re class Crabs, two Hawks mids, Bathesda top guys and more have joined Nationals. They are also joining the HOCO league???
What the [lacrosse] is going on?????

Hawks could add 4-5 2021s themselves plus some of the Dbacks. So they will try their best to compete. They will be replacing a bunch of multiyear players and have been planning this all year. They are teying ro replace 1 or 2 at every postion. Will be interesting to see where the cut Hawks end up. Hope you didn't fall for that loyalty and team crap. Hahaha

You really are a bitter little man

I feel bad for the kids and their families who are getting replaced but I do get a kick out of their hypocrisy. They actually believe that loyalty and team stuff they talk about. We will see a few of the Soon to be cut Hawks at tryouts. The world won't end if Biff JR has to play on Another club. You can bet that a few of the parents are actually hoping to get cut. Remember, we all know each other.

We all know each other? Really? Being a snake in the grass and talking [lacrosse] about your sons friends is exactly why you remain anonymous on this site. So , yes , everyone knows who you are and your clown sidekick.
Please don't feel bad for any kid that routinely beats your kids on the lacrosse field. They will be just ok on anytime they play for. Playing for a team with integrity ALL year . Not jumping ship to play with ALL Stars from 6 states just to beat 1 team in 1 tournament.
Classless all the way around!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about this Duke's Nationals team having tryouts at Hofstra?

What exactly are you asking? As their name suggests, they are a national team. Currently made up of kids from MD, PA, NJ, NY, CT. Maybe a couple other places.

Son just told me that all the 2022's on the 2021 Koopers are now playing Duke's Nationals. Re class Crabs, two Hawks mids, Bathesda top guys and more have joined Nationals. They are also joining the HOCO league???
What the [lacrosse] is going on?????

Hawks could add 4-5 2021s themselves plus some of the Dbacks. So they will try their best to compete. They will be replacing a bunch of multiyear players and have been planning this all year. They are teying ro replace 1 or 2 at every postion. Will be interesting to see where the cut Hawks end up. Hope you didn't fall for that loyalty and team crap. Hahaha

You really are a bitter little man

I feel bad for the kids and their families who are getting replaced but I do get a kick out of their hypocrisy. They actually believe that loyalty and team stuff they talk about. We will see a few of the Soon to be cut Hawks at tryouts. The world won't end if Biff JR has to play on Another club. You can bet that a few of the parents are actually hoping to get cut. Remember, we all know each other.

The sooner this dream of playing D1 dies, the better. So tired of paying to keep this dream alive and giving up most of the summer. Bring on the cuts.

Hawks could add 4-5 2021s themselves plus some of the Dbacks. So they will try their best to compete. They will be replacing a bunch of multiyear players and have been planning this all year. They are teying ro replace 1 or 2 at every postion. Will be interesting to see where the cut Hawks end up. Hope you didn't fall for that loyalty and team crap. Hahaha
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I feel bad for the kids and their families who are getting replaced but I do get a kick out of their hypocrisy. They actually believe that loyalty and team stuff they talk about. We will see a few of the Soon to be cut Hawks at tryouts. The world won't end if Biff JR has to play on Another club. You can bet that a few of the parents are actually hoping to get cut. Remember, we all know each other. [/quote]

since you anonymously know everyone and your little fibb was obviously cut by the hawks, why would you feel bad for a family if they secretly want to get cut. wouldn't you be happy for them, since they are getting what they and YOU want,
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Maybe mine would get cut? Never tried out, but the coach keeps a ski g him too. Don't worry, not coming to take your kid spot.

Was loyalty part of the equation with club? I thought a player earned the position each year. So many on this site want their child to get a trophy and a medal for being the apple of daddies eye. What a joke...go earn the spot

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Was loyalty part of the equation with club? I thought a player earned the position each year. So many on this site want their child to get a trophy and a medal for being the apple of daddies eye. What a joke...go earn the spot

Yes, you earn position, but making a kid and parent feel guilty about missing a Sunday night winter indoor game in Baltimore, telling them they are hurting the team, yet they are talking to your replacement. That is not loyal