This thread will be used to cover the news and discussions of the Fall Lacrosse Leagues for Baltimore and Capital (Maryland, DC, Virginia) areas.
What does everyone think the impact Team 91 MD will have on all the other local clubs?
My guess is that 2021 and younger will be fairly strong and 2020 will be okay. They will need to prove their brand works in Baltimore before they will get the older kids.
If they were just south of Baltimore and convenient for the DMV, it would be a different story. They would be able to take players from MADLAX, Hawks, etc.
What fall leagues are there?
What fall leagues are there?
Annapolis area: AYLA Fall (Outdoor) - Some club, some rec - starts 9/13 thru 11/1
Bethesda area: Next Level Fall (Outdoor) - Almost all club - starts 9/13 thru 10/25
Baltimore area: Coppermine Box (Indoor) CBLL - starts 9/11 thru 12/13
Any more?
What does everyone think the impact Team 91 MD will have on all the other local clubs?
The impact will be that the Baltimore clubs will become even more diluted and even the best clubs will get a little worse..... LaxWorld, Rock, Wolfpack, Crabs, Breakers, FCA, Looney's, Kooper's, Greene Turtle, etc.
Strong clubs from out of state have tried to crack this scene before and didn't last long..... 3D, United, ???
I would not jump from a club you are happy with thinking 91 will be any better in their 1st year.
What does everyone think the impact Team 91 MD will have on all the other local clubs?
The impact will be that the Baltimore clubs will become even more diluted and even the best clubs will get a little worse..... LaxWorld, Rock, Wolfpack, Crabs, Breakers, FCA, Looney's, Kooper's, Greene Turtle, etc.
Strong clubs from out of state have tried to crack this scene before and didn't last long..... 3D, United, ???
I would not jump from a club you are happy with thinking 91 will be any better in their 1st year.
they could be strong at 2020. Breakers coach at that grade already listed on 91 website. Breakers were among the top 4-5 in MD at 2020. will be interesting to see if all players follow. Breakers is one of the most expensive in balt. Will 91 be more?
Where 3d blew it and Team 91 will blow it is neither centered in Southern Maryland. As a prior poster noted the best strategy is to be somewhere 30 mins south of Baltimore, 30-40 minutes from Annapolis and 20 minutes away from Montgomery County and 40 minutes away from Fairfax County.
Lots of people would exercise a choice and you could draw some people from all those areas and incubate a good club. Setting up shop in Leesburg Virginia was stupid for 3d and alienated the families of the better players they were able to attract. Setting up a me-too version of Madlax or VLC in Fairfax County is equally stupid, and setting up a me-too version of Crabs or FCA in Baltimore is likely the most stupid thing which is what Team 91 is about to do. I see more of the same reading that they are doing tryouts in early August in Baltimore burbs.
It's a loser strategy right out of the box. 3d just blew it. Nobody wants to drive to Leesburg to play with the Battlelax and PVI leftovers. That's a shame considering they have a platform to be a success but just a terrible execution strategy. Ditto with Team 91 Maryland...that will be exciting for about 3 months.
What does everyone think the impact Team 91 MD will have on all the other local clubs?
The impact will be that the Baltimore clubs will become even more diluted and even the best clubs will get a little worse..... LaxWorld, Rock, Wolfpack, Crabs, Breakers, FCA, Looney's, Kooper's, Greene Turtle, etc.
Strong clubs from out of state have tried to crack this scene before and didn't last long..... 3D, United, ???
I would not jump from a club you are happy with thinking 91 will be any better in their 1st year.
they could be strong at 2020. Breakers coach at that grade already listed on 91 website. Breakers were among the top 4-5 in MD at 2020. will be interesting to see if all players follow. Breakers is one of the most expensive in balt. Will 91 be more?
91 focused on building the boys side of the club from bottom up- starting with the little kids and making their teams strong and growing them. They did have older middle school and high school teams at first, but they were not as competitive. As their name got stronger, the older teams because more competitive and as the younger teams aged, they became some of the top teams- example- Extreme, 91 orange 2019, Crush, Smash, united, Heat, Bandits. If they work with the same model- starting with the younger teams and growing the club, they may be just as successful, only time will tell and you may not see success within the first year. I also agree that the 2020 team from the Breakers will be competitive.
I do think that a saturated market is really not great for the sport though, as it dilutes talent over many teams- but it does give the consumer the edge in finding a team and a philosophy that works for their family. Everyone should really research any club you join from philosophy, to the coach and past experiences good and bad from previous players, etc. It is a lot of money to spend and you need to be wise about your decisions, especially if starting young, as there is a long road ahead. Good luck to all!
Where 3d blew it and Team 91 will blow it is neither centered in Southern Maryland. As a prior poster noted the best strategy is to be somewhere 30 mins south of Baltimore, 30-40 minutes from Annapolis and 20 minutes away from Montgomery County and 40 minutes away from Fairfax County.
Lots of people would exercise a choice and you could draw some people from all those areas and incubate a good club. Setting up shop in Leesburg Virginia was stupid for 3d and alienated the families of the better players they were able to attract. Setting up a me-too version of Madlax or VLC in Fairfax County is equally stupid, and setting up a me-too version of Crabs or FCA in Baltimore is likely the most stupid thing which is what Team 91 is about to do. I see more of the same reading that they are doing tryouts in early August in Baltimore burbs.
It's a loser strategy right out of the box. 3d just blew it. Nobody wants to drive to Leesburg to play with the Battlelax and PVI leftovers. That's a shame considering they have a platform to be a success but just a terrible execution strategy. Ditto with Team 91 Maryland...that will be exciting for about 3 months.
No a shot I'm trekking over to southern maryland from fairfax county. I'd rather drive out to leesburg.
I heard MLC is dissolving, why? can someone confirm
I heard MLC is dissolving, why? can someone confirm
That team won the MYLA [lacrosse] A division and made a decent run at trying to stay together as a club team. Time for something new. There should be a sizable migration at the 2019 age this year. Tryouts will be interesting.
Leesburg is the worst. I live in Fairfax. Expensive tolls both ways and fighting commuter traffic to get there from Fairfax on a weeknight. The ideal location for a DMV club is Tysons Corner exit if there are fields. Potomac School? Great Falls fields? Or the first few exits over the Maryland border. Tons of Fairfax County kids go to the Maryland side prep schools. Bullis has a zillion fields. People are going to complain no matter what, but in the end people will also go if the program is the real deal. There are Bethesda carpools to go play for Crabs and FCA almost an hour north. A logical thing is to get access to kids in Loudon, Fairfax, Montgomery, Howard and over to Annapolis / Severna Park areas. Loudon County is the absolute worst. Not enough good players or population there to justify a location there which makes it too impractical for the regions where more and better inventory of kids are.
Leesburg is the worst. I live in Fairfax. Expensive tolls both ways and fighting commuter traffic to get there from Fairfax on a weeknight. The ideal location for a DMV club is Tysons Corner exit if there are fields. Potomac School? Great Falls fields? Or the first few exits over the Maryland border. Tons of Fairfax County kids go to the Maryland side prep schools. Bullis has a zillion fields. People are going to complain no matter what, but in the end people will also go if the program is the real deal. There are Bethesda carpools to go play for Crabs and FCA almost an hour north. A logical thing is to get access to kids in Loudon, Fairfax, Montgomery, Howard and over to Annapolis / Severna Park areas. Loudon County is the absolute worst. Not enough good players or population there to justify a location there which makes it too impractical for the regions where more and better inventory of kids are.
I always say I would rather drive 35 to 50 mins for a top of the line product. Then drive 5 mins and get about 5 mins of good lacrosse and play with not good players. Its the same argument you need to have when you compare prices of clubs. You drive 50 mins and pay $50 at Ruths Chris steak house. But you will only drive 5 mins and pay $20 for steak at Outback. The same rules can apply to a lacrosse club choice. You have to look at it that way.
I heard MLC is dissolving, why? can someone confirm
That team won the MYLA [lacrosse] A division and made a decent run at trying to stay together as a club team. Time for something new. There should be a sizable migration at the 2019 age this year. Tryouts will be interesting.
was the original poster referring to the whole club or just the MLC 2019 team? That team would be in HS come fall. MLC was down big time this past spring in terms of # of teams in MYLA. MLC had always been a quasi rec/club program with most teams playing MYLA and a few playing in NYPLL. Maybe they're a victim of the rush to play full time club at younger and younger ages.
Ask any MLC parent.....they will tell you.
Ask any MLC parent.....they will tell you.
what would they tell us?
Most MLC teams are MYLA rec teams. Volunteers are the backbone of youth sports and for better or worse mostly parents. Not affiliated with MLC but don't think they are folding. 2019 team stayed together for club purposes and now moving to high school. Perhaps kids on that team dispers.ing for recruiting purposes
Most MLC teams are MYLA rec teams. Volunteers are the backbone of youth sports and for better or worse mostly parents. Not affiliated with MLC but don't think they are folding. 2019 team stayed together for club purposes and now moving to high school. Perhaps kids on that team dispers.ing for recruiting purposes
To my knowledge, the 2019 MLC team is the only recent MLC team to play in club tournaments and the only MLC team to ever play in the NPYLL. MLC is a great rec/MYLA member with many teams in the boys and girls divisions every year. I am not sure why the 2019 team disbanded but all of those boys are good players who are in the process of finding new teams right now.
What does everyone think the impact Team 91 MD will have on all the other local clubs?
Weak tryout numbers for teams. I feel sorry for the 8 kids that tried out, but won't make it.
What does everyone think the impact Team 91 MD will have on all the other local clubs?
Weak tryout numbers for teams. I feel sorry for the 8 kids that tried out, but won't make it.
Were you there?
There were close to 100 for some age groups. other age groups already had base teams and were only filling in. High school age may be a bit scarce but that is not a shocker given teams at this age group are usually set. 2019 and 2021 may be weaker but the other teams very competitive.
What does everyone think the impact Team 91 MD will have on all the other local clubs?
Weak tryout numbers for teams. I feel sorry for the 8 kids that tried out, but won't make it.
Were you there?
There were close to 100 for some age groups. other age groups already had base teams and were only filling in. High school age may be a bit scarce but that is not a shocker given teams at this age group are usually set. 2019 and 2021 may be weaker but the other teams very competitive.
How did they have base teams in Balt if this is the first tryout??
Did they have some complete teams come over?? 100 is a good showing for a age group..What grade? Be an interesting year coming up with all these club teams. I find it hard to believe that Balt will be ale to produce that many true very good teams at each youth age group below 9th grade down to 4th.
What does everyone think the impact Team 91 MD will have on all the other local clubs?
Weak tryout numbers for teams. I feel sorry for the 8 kids that tried out, but won't make it.
Were you there?
There were close to 100 for some age groups. other age groups already had base teams and were only filling in. High school age may be a bit scarce but that is not a shocker given teams at this age group are usually set. 2019 and 2021 may be weaker but the other teams very competitive.
How did they have base teams in Balt if this is the first tryout??
Did they have some complete teams come over?? 100 is a good showing for a age group..What grade? Be an interesting year coming up with all these club teams. I find it hard to believe that Balt will be ale to produce that many true very good teams at each youth age group below 9th grade down to 4th.
Both Breakers 2020 coaches moved over. That is the age they had 100 kids and they will field 2 teams at that age. MM's Breakers 2022 team is coming over for the most part also.
What does everyone think the impact Team 91 MD will have on all the other local clubs?
Weak tryout numbers for teams. I feel sorry for the 8 kids that tried out, but won't make it.
Were you there?
There were close to 100 for some age groups. other age groups already had base teams and were only filling in. High school age may be a bit scarce but that is not a shocker given teams at this age group are usually set. 2019 and 2021 may be weaker but the other teams very competitive.
How did they have base teams in Balt if this is the first tryout??
Did they have some complete teams come over?? 100 is a good showing for a age group..What grade? Be an interesting year coming up with all these club teams. I find it hard to believe that Balt will be ale to produce that many true very good teams at each youth age group below 9th grade down to 4th.
Both Breakers 2020 coaches moved over. That is the age they had 100 kids and they will field 2 teams at that age. MM's Breakers 2022 team is coming over for the most part also.
Wow...Figured MM's team would come over..But 2020 teams too. Ouch! Good start to org. Breakers will need to reload bigtime. They had a little trouble filling a few teams last year. Wonder if Breakers will drop a couple of teams??
What does everyone think the impact Team 91 MD will have on all the other local clubs?
Weak tryout numbers for teams. I feel sorry for the 8 kids that tried out, but won't make it.
Such a moron...
I heard they lost their $ backer. Zero confirmation on that, but VLC was an apparent beneficiary. VLC 2020 tryouts were very impressive....50 solid players on the field. Some from Cav, Freedom, madlax, and others. This should be a great team in an otherwise unimpressive northern va 2020 field of teams.
Team 91 Maryland, a bunch of promises of
"Elite coaches". So where are they?
You want to pay over $2k for your lax,
Have at it!!
[quote=Anonymous]Team 91 Maryland, a bunch of promises of
"Elite coaches". So where are they?
You want to pay over $2k for your lax,
Have at it!! [/quote
Rock is over $2000 as well, $2200 plus additional money for clinics and other options. If you do everything you are paying close to $2700!
[quote=Anonymous]Team 91 Maryland, a bunch of promises of
"Elite coaches". So where are they?
You want to pay over $2k for your lax,
Have at it!! [/quote
Rock is over $2000 as well, $2200 plus additional money for clinics and other options. If you do everything you are paying close to $2700!
Isn't it funny that on both the boys and girls side, the top clubs are usually at the low end of the price range?
Team 91 Maryland, a bunch of promises of
"Elite coaches". So where are they?
You want to pay over $2k for your lax,
Have at it!!
Agreed. If you kid isn't a 2022 or 2024, you are not playing for elite coaches. Rather you are playing for rec coaches that moved over to club. 91 is a for profit organization and priced accordingly. Crabs makes their money off tournaments and camps.
Team 91 Maryland, a bunch of promises of
"Elite coaches". So where are they?
You want to pay over $2k for your lax,
Have at it!!
Agreed. If you kid isn't a 2022 or 2024, you are not playing for elite coaches. Rather you are playing for rec coaches that moved over to club. 91 is a for profit organization and priced accordingly. Crabs makes their money off tournaments and camps.
What is the definition of an Elite Coach
Breakout just merged with Bethesda. Will this have any impact on Madlax, Club Blue, or Next Level?
Breakout just merged with Bethesda. Will this have any impact on Madlax, Club Blue, or Next Level?
I think this will help Kill the Madlax Maryland model. They are saying the tryouts are not going well this week. Club Blue will always have the GT prep kids and Next Level has a place. This is just taking the bottom level teams and making a better bottom level team.
Team 91 Maryland, a bunch of promises of
"Elite coaches". So where are they?
You want to pay over $2k for your lax,
Have at it!!
Agreed. If you kid isn't a 2022 or 2024, you are not playing for elite coaches. Rather you are playing for rec coaches that moved over to club. 91 is a for profit organization and priced accordingly. Crabs makes their money off tournaments and camps.
What is the definition of an Elite Coach
Someone that has coached at minimum of a Varsity level and preferably the collegiate level.
What it is not, is someone's dad that played in college.
Club Blue falling apart. Not even having younger year teams - and lost most of their coaches. CB boys at all grades - except 2021 and 2023 are trying out for other clubs.
Bethesda 2021 has 110 kids coming to tryouts this weekend and has 70-80 at every other grade.
Bethesda 2021 will be strong. Bethesda 2020; however, has blown up. Most are headed to Next Level 2020. Bethesda 2020 will be a B team this year. That's what you get for having no HS program.
Bethesda has no interest in a high school program. It's a not for profit youth organization and the best and biggest one in the area. The for profits should be thrilled Bethesda is developing the boys that play for them in high school and Bethesda will stand behind its mission and offer lax to every kid.
Sad what the for profits have done to the sport. Early recruiting has certainly impacted 8th grade squads - nothing new there. It too bad since only a handful of kids will ever get recruited before 10th grade.
And Next Level is not where u would go if you had a chance to be recruited in high school - been years since had even a decent high school team.
Team 91 Maryland, a bunch of promises of
"Elite coaches". So where are they?
You want to pay over $2k for your lax,
Have at it!!
Agreed. If you kid isn't a 2022 or 2024, you are not playing for elite coaches. Rather you are playing for rec coaches that moved over to club. 91 is a for profit organization and priced accordingly. Crabs makes their money off tournaments and camps.
What is the definition of an Elite Coach
Someone that has coached at minimum of a Varsity level and preferably the collegiate level.
What it is not, is someone's dad that played in college.
What if that Varsity team was 1-12 three years in a row, I just see the term thrown around and was wondering what people's take on a Elite Coach was
Team 91 Maryland, a bunch of promises of
"Elite coaches". So where are they?
You want to pay over $2k for your lax,
Have at it!!
Agreed. If you kid isn't a 2022 or 2024, you are not playing for elite coaches. Rather you are playing for rec coaches that moved over to club. 91 is a for profit organization and priced accordingly. Crabs makes their money off tournaments and camps.
What is the definition of an Elite Coach
Someone that has coached at minimum of a Varsity level and preferably the collegiate level.
What it is not, is someone's dad that played in college.
What if that Varsity team was 1-12 three years in a row, I just see the term thrown around and was wondering what people's take on a Elite Coach was
How many coaches could actually be considered "Elite", whatever that means. Pedigree means something but is not the sole determinant of a coach's ability. Can he assemble a competitive team, is my kid getting good instruction, do the boys have fun, does every kid play or do many ride the bench in pursuit of wins? Those are the things I care about.
Team 91 Maryland, a bunch of promises of
"Elite coaches". So where are they?
You want to pay over $2k for your lax,
Have at it!!
Sorry that your son did not make the team.
Guess it depends on how you define elite. Sounds like the families that moved over or joined 91 are pretty comfortable with what the club offers. Why do you care about how they are marketing if your son is not a member of the club? Some of those teams were in the top 5 as Breakers and moved almost intact adjusting where needed. No reason to expect that they will not still perform competitively. Please enlighten us with your definition of "elite".
Guess it depends on how you define elite. Sounds like the families that moved over or joined 91 are pretty comfortable with what the club offers. Why do you care about how they are marketing if your son is not a member of the club? Some of those teams were in the top 5 as Breakers and moved almost intact adjusting where needed. No reason to expect that they will not still perform competitively. Please enlighten us with your definition of "elite".
One of the clubs defined elite coaching as having playing experience at the highest levels (D1, MLL, Team USA) and previous head coaching experience at high school or college level. I can go along with that.
Anyone trying out for VEL? What is their deal and what is the benefit for a 2020 to play there? The email and flyer offer almost no information and tryouts are so late.
What was the turnout like at Madlax Virginia tryouts this weekend?
What was the turnout like at Madlax Virginia tryouts this weekend?
Great. 70+ kids at all levels. Why do you keep asking?
I asked (only once!) because I was curious - if the question was already on here I didn't see it. Thought that was what this forum was for.
What are the details on the Rock - Bitmore merger?
I asked (only once!) because I was curious - if the question was already on here I didn't see it. Thought that was what this forum was for.
Don't let that guy bully you. There was nothing wrong with your question.
For the record, he is wrong. There were a lot of kids there for my son's grade, but a lot less than 70+ at the tryouts before and after my son's. But hopefully all the kids who tryout for any club find a good home and get better.
Is Ty Xanders recruiting rundown the only organization of that does lacrosse player rankings ?
Will the Thunder - Mavericks merger up in Bel Air shake anything up?
Will the Thunder - Mavericks merger up in Bel Air shake anything up?
No, they were already working with each other for the past few years. Nothing new, just different name.
Nope, they're still Irrelevant
Mavericks will still go to the Crab tournaments and get beat by 10 goals every game. LOL. Crabs of Harco. LOL
What are the details on the Rock - Bitmore merger?
What is Bit more? Is that a club?
What are the details on the Rock - Bitmore merger?
What is Bit more? Is that a club?
Bitmore is Brendan Mundorf's club. The supplemental tryouts had much better attendance, so Rock & Bitmore may no longer need to merge some of their younger teams.
What are the details on the Rock - Bitmore merger?
What is Bit more? Is that a club?
Bitmore is Brendan Mundorf's club. The supplemental tryouts had much better attendance, so Rock & Bitmore may no longer need to merge some of their younger teams.
Yes they should there is to many teams for the level of talent. Merge and your A teams might be good enough to win something.
What are the details on the Rock - Bitmore merger?
What is Bit more? Is that a club?
Yes out of Baltimore, generally they are a bit more painful to ewatch than other teams from the area, hence the name
Ok everyone how easy is it to get invites to these big showcases. Blue Chip and the rest. Which ones should you be impressed with if you get them? And which ones are a Joke.
What are the details on the Rock - Bitmore merger?
What is Bit more? Is that a club?
Yes out of Baltimore, generally they are a bit more painful to ewatch than other teams from the area, hence the name
Like most clubs, it depends on which team you are talking about. Bitmore 2021 supposedly pulled a lot of kids in from other clubs and will be a team to watch out for.
Bit more 21s combined their best w heros best and will be unstoppable in Baltimore and New [lacrosse]. They are that good. The rest of bit more was not much to talk about. For some reason the 21s were very good.
Bit more 21s combined their best w heros best and will be unstoppable in Baltimore and New [lacrosse].
LOL.
Bit more 21s combined their best w heros best and will be unstoppable in Baltimore and New [lacrosse]. They are that good. The rest of bit more was not much to talk about. For some reason the 21s were very good.
Are you serious? How many times did Heros or Bitmore ever beat M&D 2021 or YJ 2021? Think the answer is zero. M&D added 7 new players also. Heros added 8 girls from Bitmore, 3 of which are better than what they already had. We'll see how "unstoppable" they are. Glad you are confident though.
What are the details on the Rock - Bitmore merger?
What is Bit more? Is that a club?
Yes out of Baltimore, generally they are a bit more painful to ewatch than other teams from the area, hence the name
Like most clubs, it depends on which team you are talking about. Bitmore 2021 supposedly pulled a lot of kids in from other clubs and will be a team to watch out for.
lighten up Francis, it was just a joke
Bit more 21s combined their best w heros best and will be unstoppable in Baltimore and New [lacrosse]. They are that good. The rest of bit more was not much to talk about. For some reason the 21s were very good.
Are you serious? How many times did Heros or Bitmore ever beat M&D 2021 or YJ 2021? Think the answer is zero. M&D added 7 new players also. Heros added 8 girls from Bitmore, 3 of which are better than what they already had. We'll see how "unstoppable" they are. Glad you are confident though.
I thought Bitmore was a boys team???
Bit more 21s combined their best w heros best and will be unstoppable in Baltimore and New [lacrosse]. They are that good. The rest of bit more was not much to talk about. For some reason the 21s were very good.
Are you serious? How many times did Heros or Bitmore ever beat M&D 2021 or YJ 2021? Think the answer is zero. M&D added 7 new players also. Heros added 8 girls from Bitmore, 3 of which are better than what they already had. We'll see how "unstoppable" they are. Glad you are confident though.
I thought Bitmore was a boys team???
They have both boys and girls programs, although I'm pretty sure everyone was talking about the boys program, and then for some unexplainable reason someone jumped in and started arguing which girls program is better. We get all kinds in here...LOL
Bit more 21s combined their best w heros best and will be unstoppable in Baltimore and New [lacrosse]. They are that good. The rest of bit more was not much to talk about. For some reason the 21s were very good.
Are you serious? How many times did Heros or Bitmore ever beat M&D 2021 or YJ 2021? Think the answer is zero. M&D added 7 new players also. Heros added 8 girls from Bitmore, 3 of which are better than what they already had. We'll see how "unstoppable" they are. Glad you are confident though.
I thought Bitmore was a boys team???
They have both boys and girls programs, although I'm pretty sure everyone was talking about the boys program, and then for some unexplainable reason someone jumped in and started arguing which girls program is better. We get all kinds in here...LOL
Totally Hilarious...I was having a hard time following the thought..Too Funny
Only two weeks left in the Next Level Fall League.
Who is favored to win each division?
VARSITY A
VARSITY B / JV
7th / 8th Grade
6th / 7th Grade
5th / 6th Grade
Only two weeks left in the Next Level Fall League.
Who is favored to win each division?
VARSITY A
VARSITY B / JV
7th / 8th Grade
6th / 7th Grade
5th / 6th Grade
PVI in every div they are in for a start
Only two weeks left in the Next Level Fall League.
Who is favored to win each division?
VARSITY A
VARSITY B / JV
7th / 8th Grade
6th / 7th Grade
5th / 6th Grade
PVI in every div they are in for a start
Sorry thought you said VELL league.
Only two weeks left in the Next Level Fall League.
Who is favored to win each division?
VARSITY A
VARSITY B / JV
7th / 8th Grade
6th / 7th Grade
5th / 6th Grade
Cavalier 2020 - they are the ones to beat
Except for the top varsity, it is a terrible league.
Except for the top varsity, it is a terrible league.
As terrible as it is, it appears to be the best in the area.
How's the Ayla fall 22bleague competition this year in Severna Park?
The Coppermine Box League never got off the ground in Baltimore.
Except for the top varsity, it is a terrible league.
This league was a lot better last year as a whole. But the kids play at nice fields and keep a stick in there hands
Only two weeks left in the Next Level Fall League.
Who is favored to win each division?
VARSITY A
VARSITY B / JV
7th / 8th Grade
6th / 7th Grade
5th / 6th Grade
Cavalier 2020 - they are the ones to beat
Is Cav 2020 undefeated? I heard they were doing well, but since no scores are ever posted hard to tell ...
I think it's mostly B teams in next level now....kind of like the great falls spring league. Kind of a shame but I think practice in the fall makes more sense for the more serious programs if you're only doing one day a week.
No such thing as a bad league for kids 10 years or 12 years old. NL is providing a league for kids to play and improve their skills on this fall. Nothing wrong with that for kids who want to play in the fall.
They would improve a lot more if they were practicing regularly vs games only and no practices.
Blackwolf, VLC and Madlax's top teams only practice in the fall - no games. Kids are better served practicing instead of playing games with zero practicing.
Blackwolf, VLC and Madlax's top teams only practice in the fall - no games. Kids are better served practicing instead of playing games with zero practicing.
I would of thought the games only model was better but if you have new players in the fall practice is a way better option. But I think I would make it a longer practice 2 hours or more.
Blackwolf, VLC and Madlax's top teams only practice in the fall - no games. Kids are better served practicing instead of playing games with zero practicing.
I would of thought the games only model was better but if you have new players in the fall practice is a way better option. But I think I would make it a longer practice 2 hours or more.
Actually we (VLC) practice weekly in the fall, play a few scrimmages, and obviously a couple of tourneys. I think it is a good mix to be honest.
Not saying it is the right way to go, but in the younger age groups - non-HS - both the Bethesda and Next Level teams are both doing a single full practice and a Sunday game each week.
I see that Club Blue and Next Level's 8th grade teams are playing the HS JV league, any word on how they are doing against high schoolers?
Not saying it is the right way to go, but in the younger age groups - non-HS - both the Bethesda and Next Level teams are both doing a single full practice and a Sunday game each week.
You mean 2-hour practice and one-hour game? My kids tried that and it was too much. 90 minutes + 45 minutes would probably work.
No they do a ninety minute practice during the week and a one hour game on Sunday.
No they are not - Bethesda 2021 beat them - with just 13 kids showing up. Bethesda 2021 is clearly the top team in NL League in 2020 Division - playing up.
Game was 9-7 with Cavalier scoring 3 goals in last couple minutes to make it respectable. Cavalier is an average 8th Grade squad - likely a B Team in NPYLL.
Next Level 2020 is VERY good - beating up on the High School Teams they are playing - mostly JV squads, but older for sure. Beat Gonzaga JV 13-2.
Next Level 2020 is VERY good - beating up on the High School Teams they are playing - mostly JV squads, but older for sure. Beat Gonzaga JV 13-2.
LOL. That is not Gonzaga's JV team. If NL 2020 played Gonzaga's real JV team, they would lose by 15 goals.
NL 2020 is a decent team, but don't get carried away.
Was Gonzaga 2019. Is what is. Either the Gonzaga 2019 kids stink or NL 2020 is admittedly very good.
Was Gonzaga 2019. Is what is. Either the Gonzaga 2019 kids stink or NL 2020 is admittedly very good.
Or the Gonzaga 2019 kids are at prospect days, playing other sports, etc.
The best Gonzaga freshmen are not going to lose to NL 8th graders. Please.
Or maybe the best Gonzaga 9th graders aren't as good as you think they are.
It was the Gonzaga 2019 freshman team, and the NL 2020's demolished them. My son's team played right after two weekends ago and we know boys on both of those teams. NL 2020 nasty, nasty. From what I know of the boys, they must have pooled a team together from NL, Bethesda and Club Blue to make that team.
The best Gonzaga 2019 freshmen are playing with Gonzaga's 2017/2018 team. Sorry. Keep living through your son's life.
It was the Gonzaga 2019 freshman team, and the NL 2020's demolished them. My son's team played right after two weekends ago and we know boys on both of those teams. NL 2020 nasty, nasty. From what I know of the boys, they must have pooled a team together from NL, Bethesda and Club Blue to make that team.
There is no chance at all that pooling a team together from Next Level, Club Blue, and Bethesda is going to make a 2020 "super team". None of those 3 teams are superstar 2020 teams.
It was the Gonzaga 2019 freshman team, and the NL 2020's demolished them. My son's team played right after two weekends ago and we know boys on both of those teams. NL 2020 nasty, nasty. From what I know of the boys, they must have pooled a team together from NL, Bethesda and Club Blue to make that team.
Well this NL 2020 team will have a test this weekend coming up they play the Madlax 2019VA team which has won every game by 4 or more goals this year in this league. They have a light roster which most teams do in this league so its really hard to tell how good a team is if they are missing 30% of there team at a game. But I have seen this NL 2020 team play and they do play well and seem to be able to score.
It was the Gonzaga 2019 freshman team, and the NL 2020's demolished them. My son's team played right after two weekends ago and we know boys on both of those teams. NL 2020 nasty, nasty. From what I know of the boys, they must have pooled a team together from NL, Bethesda and Club Blue to make that team.
Is this the same NL 2020 team that lost 19-2 to Hawks and 13-2 to Crabs in NPYLL last season?
It was the Gonzaga 2019 freshman team, and the NL 2020's demolished them. My son's team played right after two weekends ago and we know boys on both of those teams. NL 2020 nasty, nasty. From what I know of the boys, they must have pooled a team together from NL, Bethesda and Club Blue to make that team.
Is this the same NL 2020 team that lost 19-2 to Hawks and 13-2 to Crabs in NPYLL last season?
Yes. This dad is delusional.
No, different kids. That team plays in the middle school league.
No - Team is different. Combo of NL and Bethesda 2020.
Madlax VA 2019? That is the Madlax B Team - right? A Strong 2019 B Team should be able to beat a strong 2020 Team, but lets see what happens. Any Madlax Team not called Capital is pretty pathetic - at 2020 and below, but 2019 - ie High School may be different.
Both Madlax 2010 B teams are mediocre. Any decent 2020 team should beat them.
Madlax VA 2019? That is the Madlax B Team - right? A Strong 2019 B Team should be able to beat a strong 2020 Team, but lets see what happens. Any Madlax Team not called Capital is pretty pathetic - at 2020 and below, but 2019 - ie High School may be different.
Well lets just wait tell next Monday to write about this subject.
No - Team is different. Combo of NL and Bethesda 2020.
Who lost 13-4 to Hawks and 15-1 to Crabs. Somehow I don't see how combing those two teams would change much.
No - Team is different. Combo of NL and Bethesda 2020.
Who lost 13-4 to Hawks and 15-1 to Crabs. Somehow I don't see how combing those two teams would change much.
Exactly - combining two mediocre teams is hardly going to make a stellar team...
That is correct, only the Crabs and Hawks are any good.
Nice slate of games at 2020 set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.
9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md
10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks
11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md
12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa
1pm open 91md vs Express
2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks
3pm Sons vs FCA open
BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed. Too bad. No really.
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Nice slate of games at 2020 set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.
9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md
10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks
11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md
12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa
1pm open 91md vs Express
2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks
3pm Sons vs FCA open
BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed. Too bad. No really.
Who exactly is Mesa?
Nice slate of games at 2020 set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.
9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md
10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks
11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md
12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa
1pm open 91md vs Express
2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks
3pm Sons vs FCA open
BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed. Too bad. No really.
Pretty much all the top teams there
Nice slate of games at 2020 set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.
9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md
10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks
11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md
12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa
1pm open 91md vs Express
2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks
3pm Sons vs FCA open
BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed. Too bad. No really.
Pretty much all the top teams there
No Crabs
No Team 91 Crush
No Dukes
and several other very good teams
Nice slate of games at 2020 set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.
9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md
10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks
11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md
12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa
1pm open 91md vs Express
2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks
3pm Sons vs FCA open
BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed. Too bad. No really.
Pretty much all the top teams there
No Crabs
No Team 91 Crush
No Dukes
and several other very good teams
Thanks Dukes dad, but not really in the same league as Crabs and Crush. Everyone knows where they stand WRT to Crush and nobody cares about Crabs since they are tainted so this looks like a very nice lineup.
Crabs is better than any of the teams in this tourney.
And the Sons aren't tainted? They got caught cheating red handed in the NXT spring league. That team has as many holdbacks as any team.
Crabs is better than any of the teams in this tourney.
But nobody cares, just a bunch of holdbacks - tainted.
Looney's - holdbacks
FCA - holdbacks
91 MD - holdbacks
Mesa - holdbacks
And you can keep embarrassing yourself by calling Crabs tainted. They aren't breaking any rules and their kids get D1 offers. And they also beat your team easily on the field.
LOL.
Looney's - holdbacks
FCA - holdbacks
91 MD - holdbacks
Mesa - holdbacks
And you can keep embarrassing yourself by calling Crabs tainted. They aren't breaking any rules and their kids get D1 offers. And they also beat your team easily on the field.
LOL.
Don't know the details of holdbacks on those other teams so share them if you have them but we all know that Crabs have set the standard. How many of the 2019 kids will be called down for Beach Lax
this year?
"No rules were broken" - the Crabs motto.
Proud to call them tainted at each and every opportunity.
10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020
11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020
1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020
Madlax 2020 is going to get pounded.
10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020
11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020
1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020
interesting. what tournament and where?
10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020
11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020
1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020
interesting. what tournament and where?
But here is the thing Madlax is playing the best and playing at the best places to play. Hate them all you want. All you 2020 kids in NoVa not playing Madlax are missing out. Because at least Madlax is there playing the best. The scouts do not care who wins these games.
Crabs = unethical cheaters
Parents of Crab players, just know that when you stand on the sidelines everyone else thinks you're a scumbag, think of that every time you bring your "child" to a lax tourney
10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020
11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020
1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020
interesting. what tournament and where?
But here is the thing Madlax is playing the best and playing at the best places to play. Hate them all you want. All you 2020 kids in NoVa not playing Madlax are missing out. Because at least Madlax is there playing the best. The scouts do not care who wins these games.
They also play in their own tournaments in Poolesville. Against nobodies. So not actually the best tournaments.
But to the PP's point, yes this team is not very good. Crabs 2020 will beat them by 10 goals.
10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020
11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020
1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020
interesting. what tournament and where?
But here is the thing Madlax is playing the best and playing at the best places to play. Hate them all you want. All you 2020 kids in NoVa not playing Madlax are missing out. Because at least Madlax is there playing the best. The scouts do not care who wins these games.
They also play in their own tournaments in Poolesville. Against nobodies. So not actually the best tournaments.
But to the PP's point, yes this team is not very good. Crabs 2020 will beat them by 10 goals.
That is a youth tournament the high school teams play the best
Crabs = unethical cheaters
Parents of Crab players, just know that when you stand on the sidelines everyone else thinks you're a scumbag, think of that every time you bring your "child" to a lax tourney
Meanwhile, our kids beat your team every time and all of our kids will play college lax. Keep hating, dad.
Meanwhile, our kids beat your team every time and all of our kids will play college lax...
"...and we will do whatever it takes and exploit every loophole to make that happen"
10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020
11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020
1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020
interesting. what tournament and where?
But here is the thing Madlax is playing the best and playing at the best places to play. Hate them all you want. All you 2020 kids in NoVa not playing Madlax are missing out. Because at least Madlax is there playing the best. The scouts do not care who wins these games.
They also play in their own tournaments in Poolesville. Against nobodies. So not actually the best tournaments.
But to the PP's point, yes this team is not very good. Crabs 2020 will beat them by 10 goals.
That is a youth tournament the high school teams play the best
Madlax 2020 is in 8th grade, genius. They have (and will continue) to play in those crappy Poolesville tournaments.
Nice slate of games at 2020 set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.
9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md
10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks
11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md
12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa
1pm open 91md vs Express
2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks
3pm Sons vs FCA open
BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed. Too bad. No really.
I know its early but is there a chance there will be college coaches there?
Nice slate of games at 2020 set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.
9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md
10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks
11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md
12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa
1pm open 91md vs Express
2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks
3pm Sons vs FCA open
BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed. Too bad. No really.
I know its early but is there a chance there will be college coaches there?
pretty sure this is organized in part by Petramala and Toomey
Nice slate of games at 2020 set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.
9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md
10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks
11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md
12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa
1pm open 91md vs Express
2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks
3pm Sons vs FCA open
BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed. Too bad. No really.
I know its early but is there a chance there will be college coaches there?
pretty sure this is organized in part by Petramala and Toomey
Oh ok where did you hear this from??
From Charlie and Petro. It is their tournament. They are not hiding that fact.
From Charlie and Petro. It is their tournament. They are not hiding that fact.
Oh ok i was just curious. I'm not surprised Petro is Setting this up because they love recruiting early at Hopkins.
What do you mean the NLF event cancelled that day?
NL 2020 beat Madlax 2019 VA 5-4.
NL 2020 beat Madlax 2019 VA 5-4.
That shows NL 2020 isn't that great. Madlax 2019 VA is awful.
NL 2020 beat Madlax 2019 VA 5-4.
That shows NL 2020 isn't that great. Madlax 2019 VA is awful.
This NL team is good they play great D. and have poles that can run. I know this is a excuse but Madlax Va was down two top Middies and a LSM. The game went into overtime. I am a Madlax parent but I will be routing for this NL team. I would prefer them be good over some of the other clubs.
Appreciate that this sport has reached the point where there is such a thing as a 8th or a 9th grade commit who isn't a very good player. The touting and the hype is bearding the reality that the main problem in club lacrosse is that few if any kids are really learning how to play and are becoming fundamentally sound. I wasn't at the game, but if you teach a kid at this age how to move on defense and practice up skill you can see rapid improvements. Sounds like Next Level is starting to get back to that, and if they do the results will follow.
NL 2020 beat Madlax 2019 VA 5-4.
That shows NL 2020 isn't that great. Madlax 2019 VA is awful.
This NL team is good they play great D. and have poles that can run. I know this is a excuse but Madlax Va was down two top Middies and a LSM. The game went into overtime. I am a Madlax parent but I will be routing for this NL team. I would prefer them be good over some of the other clubs.
Yes, it's an excuse. Everyone is missing kids.
Why are you rooting for NL versus other clubs? What's the beef you have?
NL 2020 beat Madlax 2019 VA 5-4.
That shows NL 2020 isn't that great. Madlax 2019 VA is awful.
This NL team is good they play great D. and have poles that can run. I know this is a excuse but Madlax Va was down two top Middies and a LSM. The game went into overtime. I am a Madlax parent but I will be routing for this NL team. I would prefer them be good over some of the other clubs.
Yes, it's an excuse. Everyone is missing kids.
Why are you rooting for NL versus other clubs? What's the beef you have?
So was NL missing any kids? No beef I just like how NL does things they seem to be the correct amount of crazy. I am a Northern Va guy its just to far to drive.
NL 2020 beat Madlax 2019 VA 5-4.
That shows NL 2020 isn't that great. Madlax 2019 VA is awful.
This NL team is good they play great D. and have poles that can run. I know this is a excuse but Madlax Va was down two top Middies and a LSM. The game went into overtime. I am a Madlax parent but I will be routing for this NL team. I would prefer them be good over some of the other clubs.
Yes, it's an excuse. Everyone is missing kids.
Why are you rooting for NL versus other clubs? What's the beef you have?
So was NL missing any kids? No beef I just like how NL does things they seem to be the correct amount of crazy. I am a Northern Va guy its just to far to drive.
As a father whose kid is now out of college, NL is not a model club. They've never been able to field real HS teams (usually they've had just combo teams) and the coaching has been sporadic.
The Heights guy may be able to get it going, but the Landon guys tried and failed before bailing.
NL 2020 beat Madlax 2019 VA 5-4.
That shows NL 2020 isn't that great. Madlax 2019 VA is awful.
This NL team is good they play great D. and have poles that can run. I know this is a excuse but Madlax Va was down two top Middies and a LSM. The game went into overtime. I am a Madlax parent but I will be routing for this NL team. I would prefer them be good over some of the other clubs.
Yes, it's an excuse. Everyone is missing kids.
Why are you rooting for NL versus other clubs? What's the beef you have?
So was NL missing any kids? No beef I just like how NL does things they seem to be the correct amount of crazy. I am a Northern Va guy its just to far to drive.
As a father whose kid is now out of college, NL is not a model club. They've never been able to field real HS teams (usually they've had just combo teams) and the coaching has been sporadic.
The Heights guy may be able to get it going, but the Landon guys tried and failed before bailing.
I have really only been witness to the 2019 and 2020 clubs and they seem to be good but not great and coached well.
Tourney this weekend has some big games in 2021A division with some top teams (Crabs, GT, Bethesda, Hawks, etc.) should be good to watch
agree - four strong squads - should be four of the best in Maryland this year - early head to head action.
Looked at schedule and FCA is playing 3 of 4 of those strong teams and Team 91 MD playing none of them.
Will be interesting to see how Team 91 MD does against some mid-level A teams this weekend.
what tournaments are FCA 2020 playing in?
what tournaments are FCA 2020 playing in?
FCA 2020 AA playing at the Hill school this weekend with several other top AA teams -LI Express, Looneys, 91 Maryland, Rising Sons, Legacy and Hawks. Should be a good weekend of play.
Looked at schedule and FCA is playing 3 of 4 of those strong teams and Team 91 MD playing none of them.
And your point is? team 91 MD is not particularly strong in 2021 and are definitely in the development stage.
Looked at schedule and FCA is playing 3 of 4 of those strong teams and Team 91 MD playing none of them.
??? Looking at the schedule on the previous page FCA and 91MD both play Sons and Express then play each other.
How do you know if they are any good? I thought this was their first tourney/games?
Looked at schedule and FCA is playing 3 of 4 of those strong teams and Team 91 MD playing none of them.
??? Looking at the schedule on the previous page FCA and 91MD both play Sons and Express then play each other.
i think they are referring to the 2021 division @ MD lax tournament at McDonogh. You seem to be referring to rising sons tournament in PA where top 2020s are playing
After this weekend FCA 2021 should be able to tell if they are on their way to moving from a mid-pack A team in Maryland (like RRiders, Bitmore, etc.) to top tier.
Yep, though don't forget Roughriders certainly perform like a AA team at times (i.e., Beach Lax).
After this weekend FCA 2021 should be able to tell if they are on their way to moving from a mid-pack A team in Maryland (like RRiders, Bitmore, etc.) to top tier.
What is Bitmore?
After this weekend FCA 2021 should be able to tell if they are on their way to moving from a mid-pack A team in Maryland (like RRiders, Bitmore, etc.) to top tier.
What is Bitmore?
club run by MLL player Brendan Mundorf out west side of balto county
Hill school has lots of good teams. Interested in seeing Looneys and Hawks. Strong squads last year and what I saw of the Hawks ML game at Landon - Hawks has some new players including a new FO kid from Crabs. To bad Crabs aren't gonna be there - players are probably at driving school and/or taking the SAT.
Hill school has lots of good teams. Interested in seeing Looneys and Hawks. Strong squads last year and what I saw of the Hawks ML game at Landon - Hawks has some new players including a new FO kid from Crabs. To bad Crabs aren't gonna be there - players are probably at driving school and/or taking the SAT.
Im personally not expecting any of the MD clubs at Hill School to be markedly better then at the end of the summer (3 months ago). Very few players changed clubs. The biggest game changer will likely be FCAs 2019 attack group who is now on 2020.
That fca attack group actually hurts the chemistry. Fca beat Looneys twice last year without them. Looneys added another out of state kid besides that no one. Rising sons took on crabs model- hold backs. It is what it is.
That fca attack group actually hurts the chemistry. Fca beat Looneys twice last year without them. Looneys added another out of state kid besides that no one. Rising sons took on crabs model- hold backs. It is what it is.
Just curious how does that hurt the chemistry?
What state was the kid looneys added from?
Looneys added 7 kids. Also they beat fca 10 to 2 with their 2019 attack hold backs last fall. They were injured last spring when then lost to fca. These are facts.
Games tomorrow. Why don't you guys let their play do the talking?
Out of the 24 players on Rising Sons 20s there is 1 reclassified, not taking on "crabs model".
Looneys added 7 kids. Also they beat fca 10 to 2 with their 2019 attack hold backs last fall. They were injured last spring when then lost to fca. These are facts.
The 3 attackmen and the goalie on FCA are on age 2020 players. Go peddle that nonsense elsewhere.
Looneys added 7 kids. Also they beat fca 10 to 2 with their 2019 attack hold backs last fall. They were injured last spring when then lost to fca. These are facts.
The 3 attackmen and the goalie on FCA are on age 2020 players. Go peddle that nonsense elsewhere.
FCA goalie with summer birth should be 2019
It's pretty sad that some dads have nothing better to do that keep tabs on the birthdays and grades of some random boys.
Weird.
It's pretty sad that some dads have nothing better to do that keep tabs on the birthdays and grades of some random boys.
Weird.
It's pretty sad that we have to...
It's pretty sad that some dads have nothing better to do that keep tabs on the birthdays and grades of some random boys.
Weird.
Almost as bad as parents playing their kids down and thinking it's fair!
It's pretty sad that some dads have nothing better to do that keep tabs on the birthdays and grades of some random boys.
Weird.
It's pretty sad that we have to...
You actually don't. The rules say things are grade based now. Nobody says you have to keep whining about something that you dislike that is actually legally allowed.
It's pretty sad that some dads have nothing better to do that keep tabs on the birthdays and grades of some random boys.
Weird.
It's pretty sad that we have to...
You actually don't. The rules say things are grade based now. Nobody says you have to keep whining about something that you dislike that is actually legally allowed.
Legal...yes, inappropriate ...yes! However you look at it, until kids hit high school they should play against kids their age.
It's pretty sad that some dads have nothing better to do that keep tabs on the birthdays and grades of some random boys.
Weird.
It's pretty sad that we have to...
You actually don't. The rules say things are grade based now. Nobody says you have to keep whining about something that you dislike that is actually legally allowed.
Show me "the rule".
It's pretty sad that some dads have nothing better to do that keep tabs on the birthdays and grades of some random boys.
Weird.
It's pretty sad that we have to...
You actually don't. The rules say things are grade based now. Nobody says you have to keep whining about something that you dislike that is actually legally allowed.
I think we'll keep it up, always good to know who is gaming the system.
It's pretty sad that some dads have nothing better to do that keep tabs on the birthdays and grades of some random boys.
Weird.
It's pretty sad that we have to...
You actually don't. The rules say things are grade based now. Nobody says you have to keep whining about something that you dislike that is actually legally allowed.
Show me "the rule".
Are you an idiot? Let me see. The divisions of the tournaments say 2018/2019/2020/2021 etc. Don't see U11, U13, U15 anywhere.
It's pretty sad that some dads have nothing better to do that keep tabs on the birthdays and grades of some random boys.
Weird.
It's pretty sad that we have to...
You actually don't. The rules say things are grade based now. Nobody says you have to keep whining about something that you dislike that is actually legally allowed.
Show me "the rule".
Are you an idiot? Let me see. The divisions of the tournaments say 2018/2019/2020/2021 etc. Don't see U11, U13, U15 anywhere.
That's not a rule, it's just a way to organize kids into teams. Leaves lots of room for interpretation, obviously.
It's pretty sad that some dads have nothing better to do that keep tabs on the birthdays and grades of some random boys.
Weird.
It's pretty sad that some dads have nothing better to do than post about dads keeping tabs on the birthdays and grades of some random boys.
Weird
If you Deicide your kid needs to repeat a grade have the balls to have him play at his age level. There is no reason kids should be able to redo a grade and play down.
Crabs 2021 have three kids with 2001 birthdays.. I have a 2021 born in 2003 and a 2019 born in 2001... That's ridiculous and crabs and their parents should be embarrassed
Any results from the McDonogh tourney this weekend? 2020 and 2021s??
Hawks (2021) 11
FCA 3
Hawks (2021) 7
Bethesda 6
Hawks (2021) 8
Club Blue 3
Crabs 2021 over FCA 2021 by 1 (maybe 2)
Green Turtle 2021 - 6
Crabs 2021 - 5
2020 Platinum(their lower level AA) won Halloween Havoc 4-0 and the 2020 Force went 2-0-1 at the Rising Sons play day limited to top tier 2020s (minus Crush). 2024 went 2-1 at Mcdonogh but not sure of other teams. Anyone know?
Bethesda 2021 had a few new players, especially poles, that weren't up to the level of years past - anyone know what happened? Did a group of friends go to a different club or something
Any results from the McDonogh tourney this weekend? 2020 and 2021s??
in 2020 Club Blue by 1 over FCA White with buzzer beater. Looney's Green over FCA, Laxworld in close games. Those were the top couple of teams in attendance. Elite teams were elsewhere. I think most other games they played were blowouts. Anyone know club blue/laxworld result?
Must be referring to Bethesda 2021 Orange - "B" Team. 2021 Blue is "A" Team - very strong - better than past. Orange Team is very solid, but different level.
Bethesda 2021 Blue Results:
Hawks 7 - Bethesda 6 - even game
GT 4 - Bethesda 6
FCA 2 - Bethesda 13
Must be referring to Bethesda 2021 Orange - "B" Team. 2021 Blue is "A" Team - very strong - better than past. Orange Team is very solid, but different level.
Whichever Bethesda team that lost to the Hawks this past weekend. Thought it was their 'A' team but maybe not
Looks like Bethesda 2021 is pretty good from scores indicated. Hawks too. Looks like FCA is weak.
How are 2022 teams doing this fall?
Crabs 2021 over FCA 2021 by 1 (maybe 2)
Green Turtle 2021 - 6
Crabs 2021 - 5
Crabs 12 FCA 1
Little more than 1 or 2
The Bethesda 2021 team that lost to the Hawks 2021 is their "AA" team.
Crabs 12 FCA 1.........that was mistake as I was a field away. I apologize!
Can you confirm that Green Turtle 2021 beat Crabs 2021 (yet again) 6-5?
Correct - was top team. Hawks and Bethesda 21 - look like top tier teams - as usual. Crabs and Green Turtle too - no surprises at 21.
Crabs 12 FCA 1.........that was mistake as I was a field away. I apologize!
Can you confirm that Green Turtle 2021 beat Crabs 2021 (yet again) 6-5?
Correct GT beat Crabs again
2020 Platinum(their lower level AA) won Halloween Havoc 4-0 and the 2020 Force went 2-0-1 at the Rising Sons play day limited to top tier 2020s (minus Crush). 2024 went 2-1 at Mcdonogh but not sure of other teams. Anyone know?
Halloween Havoc is a joke of a tournament full of B teams.
2020 Platinum(their lower level AA) won Halloween Havoc 4-0 and the 2020 Force went 2-0-1 at the Rising Sons play day limited to top tier 2020s (minus Crush). 2024 went 2-1 at Mcdonogh but not sure of other teams. Anyone know?
Halloween Havoc is a joke of a tournament full of B teams.
B teams might be generous.
It is not good when the Cannons are the "best" club attending.
But kuddos to the OBGC guy that figured out a way to make even more money for his big house beyond Field of Screams
Green turtle beat crabs at 2021. Really? Crabs may need to pull down some 2020
Green turtle beat crabs at 2021. Really? Crabs may need to pull down some 2020
Can tell you arent in Crab nation..We need to pull down some from 2019.
Lets make this fair now.
I get that you guys hate losing to the Crabs, but you need some new material.
Talking trash about a tournament with B teams for 2024. Isn't that 4th grade? Sweet Jesus, I feel gross just being a lacrosse parent now.
Hate losing to the Crabs? Really. G.T. has beat the Crabs the last couple of times they have played.......laughing.
Talking trash about a tournament with B teams for 2024. Isn't that 4th grade? Sweet Jesus, I feel gross just being a lacrosse parent now.
Settle down drama queen - it isn't just a 2024 tournament, older teams play there also
How did VLC (at various grades) do at McDonogh? Curios to see if partnership with Crabs is elevating the team. I wish they would simply post the scores on the website!
Crabs taking over VLC wasn't about elevating the club, it was about King Crab making more $$$. His tournaments are getting bigger and more diluted but he is making more money. It's all about the bottom line
How did VLC (at various grades) do at McDonogh? Curios to see if partnership with Crabs is elevating the team. I wish they would simply post the scores on the website!
VLC "A" went undefeated, they beat FCA white by 1 goal
vlc 2020 was not at McD. FCA white 2020 lost by 1 v Club Blue. Did not play VLC. VLC was in 2021, do not know reslts
Crabs taking over VLC wasn't about elevating the club, it was about King Crab making more $$$. His tournaments are getting bigger and more diluted but he is making more money. It's all about the bottom line
Settle down, anti-Crabs guy. VLC got a huge boost by their purchase the Crabs. More bids to recruiting events, better tournaments, higher visibility, more recruiting success, etc.
Compared to 3d, Madlax and other lax clubs who are simply buying clubs to get more fees, the Crabs are very pedestrian and conservative.
Crabs taking over VLC wasn't about elevating the club, it was about King Crab making more $$$. His tournaments are getting bigger and more diluted but he is making more money. It's all about the bottom line
Settle down, anti-Crabs guy. VLC got a huge boost by their purchase the Crabs. More bids to recruiting events, better tournaments, higher visibility, more recruiting success, etc.
Compared to 3d, Madlax and other lax clubs who are simply buying clubs to get more fees, the Crabs are very pedestrian and conservative.
Or the other clubs would rather be bought by 3D or Madlax. Not King Crab the king of Cheating.
Crabs taking over VLC wasn't about elevating the club, it was about King Crab making more $$$. His tournaments are getting bigger and more diluted but he is making more money. It's all about the bottom line
Settle down, anti-Crabs guy. VLC got a huge boost by their purchase the Crabs. More bids to recruiting events, better tournaments, higher visibility, more recruiting success, etc.
Compared to 3d, Madlax and other lax clubs who are simply buying clubs to get more fees, the Crabs are very pedestrian and conservative.
Yes, they are now invited to all the Crabs sponsored recruiting events which results into more $ more Ryan. They didn't get much new interest, still 2nd fiddle to MadLax
Who won the 2020 Next Level league?
No one they did not do playoffs for any of the leagues. I know JV did not 100% for sure.
So how good is the Koopers 2020 team? Where are they out of?
Out of Baltimore (St. Paul's). 2020 is average, 2021 is one of the best teams in Maryland and entire East Coast.
Out of Baltimore (St. Paul's). 2020 is average, 2021 is one of the best teams in Maryland and entire East Coast.
2021 probably 5th best in md this year
2021; Hawks, Crabs, Bethesda, G.T. are the top four in Maryland
I would put Koopers ahead of Crabs 2021 since Koopers beat them a few times last years. Crabs also lost to Rough Riders which Koopers destroyed. GT is best then Hawks, Bethesda, Koopers then Crabs.
How is koopers 2022 team? Did crabs 2022 get any better
GT is best then Hawks, Bethesda, Koopers then Crabs.
Really? When was it that G.T. beat the Hawks or Bethesda?
Crabs taking over VLC wasn't about elevating the club, it was about King Crab making more $$$. His tournaments are getting bigger and more diluted but he is making more money. It's all about the bottom line
Settle down, anti-Crabs guy. VLC got a huge boost by their purchase the Crabs. More bids to recruiting events, better tournaments, higher visibility, more recruiting success, etc.
Compared to 3d, Madlax and other lax clubs who are simply buying clubs to get more fees, the Crabs are very pedestrian and conservative.
Yes, they are now invited to all the Crabs sponsored recruiting events which results into more $ more Ryan. They didn't get much new interest, still 2nd fiddle to MadLax
That's funny considering the crappy tournaments Madlax forces their youth teams to attend.
you are comparing a psycho owner with a greedy owner
How is koopers 2022 team? Did crabs 2022 get any better
Koopers 2022 average at best. Crabs 2022 much better this year.
Crabs taking over VLC wasn't about elevating the club, it was about King Crab making more $$$. His tournaments are getting bigger and more diluted but he is making more money. It's all about the bottom line
Settle down, anti-Crabs guy. VLC got a huge boost by their purchase the Crabs. More bids to recruiting events, better tournaments, higher visibility, more recruiting success, etc.
Compared to 3d, Madlax and other lax clubs who are simply buying clubs to get more fees, the Crabs are very pedestrian and conservative.
Yes, they are now invited to all the Crabs sponsored recruiting events which results into more $ more Ryan. They didn't get much new interest, still 2nd fiddle to MadLax
That's funny considering the crappy tournaments Madlax forces their youth teams to attend.
One crappy tournament you are correct the ones at Polo grounds. But Madlax always plays 4 tournaments or more and the other tournaments are always the best of the best for the top teams. This is a fact. I agree the Polo Grounds tournaments suck but the other 3 are always top of the top.
Bethesda 2021 won the Next Level 2020 League
no championship for league, but Bethesda 2021 was only undefeated team and played everyone. Was essentially mid to lower level 2020 teams - so no much comp for Bethesda
2021 Year Group has several high quality Maryland Squads. Seems on any given day - they can all beat eachother:
Bethesda, Hawks, Crabs, GT, Koopers
Last Year - Roughriders had couple good wins - so will be interesting to see if they are in mix with these 5 this year.
Rest of Year Group Teams are big drop off from these.
Crabs 2022 looked very strong, much better this year--will be tough to beat.
Crabs 2022 looked very strong, much better this year--will be tough to beat.
They had no quality wins last year.
2021 Year Group has several high quality Maryland Squads. Seems on any given day - they can all beat eachother:
Bethesda, Hawks, Crabs, GT, Koopers
Last Year - Roughriders had couple good wins - so will be interesting to see if they are in mix with these 5 this year.
Rest of Year Group Teams are big drop off from these.
Having played or seen a bunch of those teams in action, that looks accurate. Roughriders certainly played better in the summer than its 2-4 HoCo record would have seemed to suggest.
Crabs taking over VLC wasn't about elevating the club, it was about King Crab making more $$$. His tournaments are getting bigger and more diluted but he is making more money. It's all about the bottom line
Settle down, anti-Crabs guy. VLC got a huge boost by their purchase the Crabs. More bids to recruiting events, better tournaments, higher visibility, more recruiting success, etc.
Compared to 3d, Madlax and other lax clubs who are simply buying clubs to get more fees, the Crabs are very pedestrian and conservative.
Yes, they are now invited to all the Crabs sponsored recruiting events which results into more $ more Ryan. They didn't get much new interest, still 2nd fiddle to MadLax
That's funny considering the crappy tournaments Madlax forces their youth teams to attend.
One crappy tournament you are correct the ones at Polo grounds. But Madlax always plays 4 tournaments or more and the other tournaments are always the best of the best for the top teams. This is a fact. I agree the Polo Grounds tournaments suck but the other 3 are always top of the top.
No, they aren't. Depends on the team and age group, some are good, a lot are not.
Best 2021 team will be determined at the World Series of Youth Lax East Qualifier - April 9-10, 2016; Baltimore, MD for these areas: Delaware, District of Columbia, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia
THIS year. 2022 Crabs picked up some new players this fall, and last year's record/results are not relevant....
THIS year. 2022 Crabs picked up some new players this fall, and last year's record/results are not relevant....
Hold backs I bet?
Agree - too bad most of these 5 teams that keep getting mentioned as top tier in MD - will not look the same - when birth certificates are required for WSYL Qualifier. Even May 1st 2002 cutoff is going to make a few of the top players ineligible - as it should be.
How many players will be ineligible from each team Nostradamus?
Based on the Rosters with Dates of Birth that were released last week for Mcdonough tourney - at least 3 from Crabs and 2 from Hawks. As luck would have it - Crabs most dominant player - who is aged for 9th grade - yes 2019. I could go on, but will stop there.
You are saying a 2022 was born in 2001? A 2019??
So only the Crabs and Hawks have holdbacks? Doubtful.
Crabs taking over VLC wasn't about elevating the club, it was about King Crab making more $$$. His tournaments are getting bigger and more diluted but he is making more money. It's all about the bottom line
Settle down, anti-Crabs guy. VLC got a huge boost by their purchase the Crabs. More bids to recruiting events, better tournaments, higher visibility, more recruiting success, etc.
Compared to 3d, Madlax and other lax clubs who are simply buying clubs to get more fees, the Crabs are very pedestrian and conservative.
Yes, they are now invited to all the Crabs sponsored recruiting events which results into more $ more Ryan. They didn't get much new interest, still 2nd fiddle to MadLax
That's funny considering the crappy tournaments Madlax forces their youth teams to attend.
One crappy tournament you are correct the ones at Polo grounds. But Madlax always plays 4 tournaments or more and the other tournaments are always the best of the best for the top teams. This is a fact. I agree the Polo Grounds tournaments suck but the other 3 are always top of the top.
You are the biggest Madlax apologist on the planet. Do you have another day job?
The
Crabs taking over VLC wasn't about elevating the club, it was about King Crab making more $$$. His tournaments are getting bigger and more diluted but he is making more money. It's all about the bottom line
Settle down, anti-Crabs guy. VLC got a huge boost by their purchase the Crabs. More bids to recruiting events, better tournaments, higher visibility, more recruiting success, etc.
Compared to 3d, Madlax and other lax clubs who are simply buying clubs to get more fees, the Crabs are very pedestrian and conservative.
Yes, they are now invited to all the Crabs sponsored recruiting events which results into more $ more Ryan. They didn't get much new interest, still 2nd fiddle to MadLax
That's funny considering the crappy tournaments Madlax forces their youth teams to attend.
One crappy tournament you are correct the ones at Polo grounds. But Madlax always plays 4 tournaments or more and the other tournaments are always the best of the best for the top teams. This is a fact. I agree the Polo Grounds tournaments suck but the other 3 are always top of the top.
You are the biggest Madlax apologist on the planet. Do you have another day job?
Please explain what was wrong with my statement? I will wait for your answer.
THIS year. 2022 Crabs picked up some new players this fall, and last year's record/results are not relevant....
Hold backs I bet?
No. Sorry to burst your bubble. None of the new kids are holdbacks. Most moved from Club Blue
Clue blue 2022 did they win a game last year?
No - talking about 2021 - Crabs have a player with July 2001 DOB - which would put him in 9th grade if not held back two years.
No - pretty much all teams have hold backs. Saying Crabs and Hawks 2021 have holdbacks who were born before the WSYL Cutoff of May 1, 2001 - so these hold backs will not be eligible for the Event - and their teams will look different as result. can't get around birth certificates
Crabs and Hawks are NOT the only 2021 teams to have holdbacks as previously posted. Bethesda definitely has a couple as does Green Turtle. Why only list two teams?
Read the post. Says everyone has holdbacks...... further says that Crabs and Hawks have holdbacks that are ineligible to compete in WSYL Events....... because they are too old. Crabs and Hawks will not be able to run with their rosters intact - maybe it wont matter for them.
Why is the cutoff May 2001 for 2021 kids? My kid was born in June 2001 and is in 9th grade!
I did read the post. Yes. It does state "everyone " has holdbacks. The post then goes on to specifically point out Crabs/Hawks. Then "stops there". Let's see your body of work Sherlock Holmes. You "stopped there" because......... ? I am curious why you didn't list ALL the 2021 holdbacks for each team.
Because the guy got it wrong. According to the WSYL website, the cutoff is 5/1/2002 and must be in the class of 2021 or later.
Any word on Hawks koopers BLC Fca 2022 scrimmages
Any word on Hawks koopers BLC Fca 2022 scrimmages
FCA went undefeated. FCA beat Hawks 6-5.
Just out of curiosity... have holdbacks already started at this age? I was at Severn today and I can't believe there are that many 6th graders - 11 year old or just turning 12 this fall - who are 5'6 or taller. A few per team, but not that many...
Just out of curiosity... have holdbacks already started at this age? I was at Severn today and I can't believe there are that many 6th graders - 11 year old or just turning 12 this fall - who are 5'6 or taller. A few per team, but not that many...
It is called pre first..The made up grade between Kindergarten and 1st grade... Only private schools like McD. Boys Latin. St Pauls, etc,,are allowed this magical grade for holdbacks...Once the kids go into first grade they are a year older than most 1st graders...My sons class had over half the boys that were held back in "prefirst"... And apologists spare me that they were all summer birthdays...Bunch were but a bunch were much older...pretty disgusting as most was just to get an advantage..not make sure little johnny was ready for 1st grade...Every private school has them and the number total are staggering,,so to answer your question...yes there is that many
I apologize in advance if this has been discussed. In VA public schools, my understanding is you cannot participate in athletics if you are 19 years old prior to the school year. Is the rule different for private schools?
Just out of curiosity... have holdbacks already started at this age? I was at Severn today and I can't believe there are that many 6th graders - 11 year old or just turning 12 this fall - who are 5'6 or taller. A few per team, but not that many...
It is called pre first..The made up grade between Kindergarten and 1st grade... Only private schools like McD. Boys Latin. St Pauls, etc,,are allowed this magical grade for holdbacks...Once the kids go into first grade they are a year older than most 1st graders...My sons class had over half the boys that were held back in "prefirst"... And apologists spare me that they were all summer birthdays...Bunch were but a bunch were much older...pretty disgusting as most was just to get an advantage..not make sure little johnny was ready for 1st grade...Every private school has them and the number total are staggering,,so to answer your question...yes there is that many
And then a portion of these pre first private school kids then hold back in 8th grade so are affectionately deemed double holdbacks. Just ask Crabs-it is their selling point and the only way they can win.
Some private schools have rules and some do not. The IAC stipulates that a kid can be 19 in the fall 12th grader, and a kid can't play more than 4 years in any HS league. I don't know if the extremes of this repeating grades means some kids can't play as seniors. My son's club had two kids who turned 16 in September of 9th grade, so have to assume that is ok to turn 19 Sept as a senior. I think the main reason why this is happening so much is it is being urged by the club and prep lacrosse people, which is a great way to hook in tuition paying families for 8th grade repeated through 12th. The part of the IAC rule that clinches this is the 4 year cap on high school sports participation. You can't repeat 10th or 11th as a transfer, have to do the "redshirt" year in 8th. This is an absolutely brilliant way for Bullis and Landon to rope in 5 year full payers. I keep hearing about gifted lacrosse players all being scholarshiped, but that makes no sense considering how small student body classes are. I don't believe that either school could stay solvent just waiving tuition for 10 kids in a class of 90-100 for lacrosse. I may be wrong, and that may be the case if the prep schools are as nutty as the parents. Anything is possible. The reshirting and private school trend in lacrosse is a fascinating study in tulip-mania. There's very little scholarship money in this sport, and even the admissions sponsorships from coaches are shaky of the kid doesn't have a strong grades and scores academic record. The UPenn and Princeton coaches have loved to brag about how he can get a 3.0 kid in when he really wants him, but both had three commits fail admissions last year. As a parent I'd be pretty bummed if my kid committed to Princeton and wound up at Loyola or Delaware. That trend has been happening quietly for a few years now.
A college coach told me something over the summer which I still get a laugh out of. For anyone who doesn't think that reclassifying is a Baltimore and a DMV disease, get this. Only 6 out of 20+ All-MIAA seniors were age eligible to try out for the USA U-19 team this past summer. Only 3 of the seniors who were All-IAC were age eligible to try out for the USA U-19 team. In 2012 more than half of the players who tried out had already played a year of college. In the USA U-19 team tryouts last summer there was only 3 out of 107 kids who had played a year of college. So it isn't just a DMV or a Baltimore disease, it is everywhere now. The same college coach told me that out of over 470 kids who applied to tryout for the USA U-19 team, over 180 were excluded after the applications were submitted for being over the age limit. The application required a birth certificate copy to confirm age eligibility. I guess that is also an indictment on how well these grade repeat All-Americans can read.
Some private schools have rules and some do not. The IAC stipulates that a kid can be 19 in the fall 12th grader, and a kid can't play more than 4 years in any HS league. I don't know if the extremes of this repeating grades means some kids can't play as seniors. My son's club had two kids who turned 16 in September of 9th grade, so have to assume that is ok to turn 19 Sept as a senior. I think the main reason why this is happening so much is it is being urged by the club and prep lacrosse people, which is a great way to hook in tuition paying families for 8th grade repeated through 12th. The part of the IAC rule that clinches this is the 4 year cap on high school sports participation. You can't repeat 10th or 11th as a transfer, have to do the "redshirt" year in 8th. This is an absolutely brilliant way for Bullis and Landon to rope in 5 year full payers. I keep hearing about gifted lacrosse players all being scholarshiped, but that makes no sense considering how small student body classes are. I don't believe that either school could stay solvent just waiving tuition for 10 kids in a class of 90-100 for lacrosse. I may be wrong, and that may be the case if the prep schools are as nutty as the parents. Anything is possible. The reshirting and private school trend in lacrosse is a fascinating study in tulip-mania. There's very little scholarship money in this sport, and even the admissions sponsorships from coaches are shaky of the kid doesn't have a strong grades and scores academic record. The UPenn and Princeton coaches have loved to brag about how he can get a 3.0 kid in when he really wants him, but both had three commits fail admissions last year. As a parent I'd be pretty bummed if my kid committed to Princeton and wound up at Loyola or Delaware. That trend has been happening quietly for a few years now.
Well if your kid has a 3.0 you should not want him to go to UPenn anyway this is a set up for failure. I am aware the athletes get extra help but at schools like UPenn or Princeton this help is only help not people doing work for you like the football powers.
My worst fear as a parent would be my kid committing to a selective school as a 9th grader, and then the way it turns out he has a 3.6-3.7 and only above average scores. There are a lot of kids out there who have a 4.0 capability. I believe the kids who get the best grades work the hardest for their grades. Worst of all worlds is a scholarship school coach telling a non-revenue sport kid that he can get him in with a 3.xx. Or an Ivy coach stating that, whether it really is 3.0 or even 3.6. A 3.6 won't get any non-preferenced kid into a very selective school. I think a valid point is that coaches have some room, but not nearly as much as they think they do. The kids who didn't get into Princeton weren't lax bros, one our family knew had good grades, but not great grades. A 3.9 was definitely attainable but he was a 3.6 and didn't ace out any AP courses or tests. I am plenty familiar with "room", as I needed and got some as a recruited athlete a generation ago to a selective school D1 program. I did the "senior slide" spring of senior year and got 3 Bs and only 2 As, and that alone was not a big deal. I see it as a risk that a kid committed far in advance of senior year has the temptation to glide some and have a longer more mediocre academic record. I can appreciate that maybe the #1 and the #2 recruit can get a lot of room, but I rather doubt coaches at Penn or at Princetok can show up with a portfolio of 9 or 10 kids needing a lot or any room at all.
FCA got beaten badly by Bethesda - not sure how that makes them undefeated lol.
that's right - May 1, 2002 is cut off. Point the poster is trying to make is that Crabs and Hawks have boys who are too old for WSYL. This is based on the Rosters that were released for these teams - from the Macdonough Tournament. Bethesda does not have any boys born before this date - so entire roster eligible. GT has 2 boys - crabs have 3, but possibly more as some left DOB out, and Hawks have 1 with couple left off too.
Everyone now clear on this. And no - the rosters will not be posted on this site - just pointing out that for WSYL these squads will not be intact - for whatever that is worth - and crabs have a 9th grade ages boy on 7th grade team - which is absurd, but not a rule violation for grade based events.
that's right - May 1, 2002 is cut off. Point the poster is trying to make is that Crabs and Hawks have boys who are too old for WSYL. This is based on the Rosters that were released for these teams - from the Macdonough Tournament. Bethesda does not have any boys born before this date - so entire roster eligible. GT has 2 boys - crabs have 3, but possibly more as some left DOB out, and Hawks have 1 with couple left off too.
Everyone now clear on this. And no - the rosters will not be posted on this site - just pointing out that for WSYL these squads will not be intact - for whatever that is worth - and crabs have a 9th grade ages boy on 7th grade team - which is absurd, but not a rule violation for grade based events.
Post is pointless without proof and posting any of the rosters. No dog in the fight but dont sit back behind a computer and gossip
My worst fear as a parent would be my kid committing to a selective school as a 9th grader, and then the way it turns out he has a 3.6-3.7 and only above average scores. There are a lot of kids out there who have a 4.0 capability. I believe the kids who get the best grades work the hardest for their grades. Worst of all worlds is a scholarship school coach telling a non-revenue sport kid that he can get him in with a 3.xx. Or an Ivy coach stating that, whether it really is 3.0 or even 3.6. A 3.6 won't get any non-preferenced kid into a very selective school. I think a valid point is that coaches have some room, but not nearly as much as they think they do. The kids who didn't get into Princeton weren't lax bros, one our family knew had good grades, but not great grades. A 3.9 was definitely attainable but he was a 3.6 and didn't ace out any AP courses or tests. I am plenty familiar with "room", as I needed and got some as a recruited athlete a generation ago to a selective school D1 program. I did the "senior slide" spring of senior year and got 3 Bs and only 2 As, and that alone was not a big deal. I see it as a risk that a kid committed far in advance of senior year has the temptation to glide some and have a longer more mediocre academic record. I can appreciate that maybe the #1 and the #2 recruit can get a lot of room, but I rather doubt coaches at Penn or at Princetok can show up with a portfolio of 9 or 10 kids needing a lot or any room at all.
your worst fear as a parent is that your kid doesn't get admitted to a "selective" school? Charmed life
Just out of curiosity... have holdbacks already started at this age? I was at Severn today and I can't believe there are that many 6th graders - 11 year old or just turning 12 this fall - who are 5'6 or taller. A few per team, but not that many...
It is called pre first..The made up grade between Kindergarten and 1st grade... Only private schools like McD. Boys Latin. St Pauls, etc,,are allowed this magical grade for holdbacks...Once the kids go into first grade they are a year older than most 1st graders...My sons class had over half the boys that were held back in "prefirst"... And apologists spare me that they were all summer birthdays...Bunch were but a bunch were much older...pretty disgusting as most was just to get an advantage..not make sure little johnny was ready for 1st grade...Every private school has them and the number total are staggering,,so to answer your question...yes there is that many
Do you really think that the schools put the kids in prefirst for some "athletic advantage"? You think they know when they are 4 and 5 years old that A)The boy is going to play lacrosse, B)The boy is going to be good at lacrosse and C)The boy is going to stay at said school for 13 years?
These schools can charge what they do based on the colleges they send ALL OF THE STUDENTS to. Not just lacrosse players. Do you not think it behooves these institutions to allow the boys to wait to start kindergarten in terms of maturity? If this wasn't the case, why is this almost solely done with boys? McDonogh does not put many girls in pre-first and neither do the all girls schools. My son is an early September birthday. If he had been born 13 days earlier he would have started the year before. I love my son dearly, but he was in no way mature enough or ready to start school the year prior. I was lucky that he was in fact born in September so I didn't have to make that decision.
I agree with you on the 8th grade holdbacks. That is shameful. But to label a kid with a spring/summer birthday that was put in prefirst as a kid that had to go to prefirst because otherwise he couldn't compete on the field is irresponsible and smells of jealousy and envy.
[quote=Anonymous]My worst fear as a parent would be my kid committing to a selective school as a 9th grader, and then the way it turns out he has a 3.6-3.7 and only above average scores.
your worst fear as a parent is that your kid doesn't get admitted to a "selective" school? Charmed life
To be pretty clear, my son is not a lacrosse verbal to a college. To also be clear, he's a top student who will apply to several selective schools in hopes of being admitted knowing it is competitive. And to be crystal clear, our world goes on regardless of where he does or doesn't get in. That's why kids apply to a range of colleges and not one. And yes, I have thought about it some that IF he were a lacrosse verbal to a college the worst of all worlds is he has a mindset of being headed somewhere and then that doesn't happen because he's not admitted. We saw this happen to a kid of a family we know well and it was just devastating for the kid. He had good but not great grades, and certainly not Ivy grades, so there will be plenty of people saying you get what is coming. But the point is he verbally committed and the coach never said anything but no worries kid. If my son got involved in the Ivy promises game from a coach, I don't think that would be real healthy. I think a charmed life is these kids being able to pick a college when they are ready and after they applied to several.
Just out of curiosity... have holdbacks already started at this age? I was at Severn today and I can't believe there are that many 6th graders - 11 year old or just turning 12 this fall - who are 5'6 or taller. A few per team, but not that many...
It is called pre first..The made up grade between Kindergarten and 1st grade... Only private schools like McD. Boys Latin. St Pauls, etc,,are allowed this magical grade for holdbacks...Once the kids go into first grade they are a year older than most 1st graders...My sons class had over half the boys that were held back in "prefirst"... And apologists spare me that they were all summer birthdays...Bunch were but a bunch were much older...pretty disgusting as most was just to get an advantage..not make sure little johnny was ready for 1st grade...Every private school has them and the number total are staggering,,so to answer your question...yes there is that many
Do you really think that the schools put the kids in prefirst for some "athletic advantage"? You think they know when they are 4 and 5 years old that A)The boy is going to play lacrosse, B)The boy is going to be good at lacrosse and C)The boy is going to stay at said school for 13 years?
These schools can charge what they do based on the colleges they send ALL OF THE STUDENTS to. Not just lacrosse players. Do you not think it behooves these institutions to allow the boys to wait to start kindergarten in terms of maturity? If this wasn't the case, why is this almost solely done with boys? McDonogh does not put many girls in pre-first and neither do the all girls schools. My son is an early September birthday. If he had been born 13 days earlier he would have started the year before. I love my son dearly, but he was in no way mature enough or ready to start school the year prior. I was lucky that he was in fact born in September so I didn't have to make that decision.
I agree with you on the 8th grade holdbacks. That is shameful. But to label a kid with a spring/summer birthday that was put in prefirst as a kid that had to go to prefirst because otherwise he couldn't compete on the field is irresponsible and smells of jealousy and envy.
You may smell jealously and envy, but most of us smell something else. And most people could care less what you do with your child at a young age. But why is there a need to get an advantage MOST CHILDREN don't enjoy in YOUTH lacrosse.That is what this discussion is about, not if little private school johnny needs another year to mature for school. Even tho Privates schools seem to be loaded with children that aren't mature compared to the rare kindergarten child held back in the Public school system.And it isnt just a summer thing..Many kids held back in prefirst are born in months prior to summer. And if you think that many parents main reason is not to give their child an advantage you are misinformed and out of touch with reality. That advantage could fester in academics or sports.
Just out of curiosity... have holdbacks already started at this age? I was at Severn today and I can't believe there are that many 6th graders - 11 year old or just turning 12 this fall - who are 5'6 or taller. A few per team, but not that many...
It is called pre first..The made up grade between Kindergarten and 1st grade... Only private schools like McD. Boys Latin. St Pauls, etc,,are allowed this magical grade for holdbacks...Once the kids go into first grade they are a year older than most 1st graders...My sons class had over half the boys that were held back in "prefirst"... And apologists spare me that they were all summer birthdays...Bunch were but a bunch were much older...pretty disgusting as most was just to get an advantage..not make sure little johnny was ready for 1st grade...Every private school has them and the number total are staggering,,so to answer your question...yes there is that many
Do you really think that the schools put the kids in prefirst for some "athletic advantage"? You think they know when they are 4 and 5 years old that A)The boy is going to play lacrosse, B)The boy is going to be good at lacrosse and C)The boy is going to stay at said school for 13 years?
These schools can charge what they do based on the colleges they send ALL OF THE STUDENTS to. Not just lacrosse players. Do you not think it behooves these institutions to allow the boys to wait to start kindergarten in terms of maturity? If this wasn't the case, why is this almost solely done with boys? McDonogh does not put many girls in pre-first and neither do the all girls schools. My son is an early September birthday. If he had been born 13 days earlier he would have started the year before. I love my son dearly, but he was in no way mature enough or ready to start school the year prior. I was lucky that he was in fact born in September so I didn't have to make that decision.
I agree with you on the 8th grade holdbacks. That is shameful. But to label a kid with a spring/summer birthday that was put in prefirst as a kid that had to go to prefirst because otherwise he couldn't compete on the field is irresponsible and smells of jealousy and envy.
You may smell jealously and envy, but most of us smell something else. And most people could care less what you do with your child at a young age. But why is there a need to get an advantage MOST CHILDREN don't enjoy in YOUTH lacrosse.That is what this discussion is about, not if little private school johnny needs another year to mature for school. Even tho Privates schools seem to be loaded with children that aren't mature compared to the rare kindergarten child held back in the Public school system.And it isnt just a summer thing..Many kids held back in prefirst are born in months prior to summer. And if you think that many parents main reason is not to give their child an advantage you are misinformed and out of touch with reality. That advantage could fester in academics or sports.
They say words like holding him back will give him a chance to excel. You are correct the pre first parent does not know his son is going to be a great lacrosse player. But once he becomes a Pre First his odds for being a great lacrosse player increase by 50% to 60%. Now with this new system he will player travel lacrosse at the old U9 age bracket but he will be a year older then all the kids. So he will play more and at the highest levels way sooner then ever before. With the old system he would have to play with his age kids tell 9th grade. So lets count U9 is what 2nd grade. That is 7 years more of playing with kids a full year and a half younger. So we can guess he will be starting and playing most of these travel high level games this whole 7 years. This is why us on age parents are a little upset. And have every right to not sit and take it. They play travel now with the kids Grad year not age if you all did not know.
There are thousands of posts back and forth here and on other threads. It all boils down to this: the prep schools don't have rules in regards to repeating grades, so there shouldn't be any problem with this issue insofar as prep school play is concerned. Public schools do have rules stating you can't reclassify for discretionary reasons. If you want that option, you have to go via a private school.
The clubs in this sport go by graduation years as well, and that makes lacrosse different from most other sports that are simply age based. I've never read anything that shows a good cause to be different and do grade based instead of age based youth teams. Many posters have also noted that college coaches do not care if a kid is old for his class, and may prefer it, which is fine. Posters noted that at clubs tournaments college coaches get both the age and the school year from the books issued and could not be confused about either. Since club lacrosse is not a school sport or a school league, why fight so hard against just doing age based teams like the other youth sports? The best players are still the best players, the best athletes are still the best athletes and everyone can read what grade a kid is in.
The point that always gets ignored is rec or club lacrosse is not a great big scholastic sport. It has literally nothing at all to do in any way with schools, school leagues or school rules and requirements. By the reasoning on this board, what would you do with a 16 year old who graduated young from high school? Tell him he can't play because he skipped grades on discretion instead of repeated them on discretion? That makes no sense.
You are incorrect. Many private leagues have rules about transfers and/or kids repeating grades. Many only allow kids to play 4 seasons of a sport (and some don't differentiate between JV and Varsity).
Some do not allow kids to repeat a grade at all. Some only allow transfers for kids of a certain grade and/or age.
Not everyone fits in your bucket.
Will someone please explain how people are continuing to re-class 9th grade and remain NCAA eligible? Are they in effect finished in 11th grade. If repeating 9th grade, the 11th grade first semester is the seventh semester for eligibility (see below). Is 12th grade the equivalent of a PG? year? Do they plan for a redshirt year to make up for not finishing four years after they started 9th grade the first time?
"Ten (10) core courses completed before the seventh semester; seven (7) of the 10 must be in English, math or natural/physical science. These courses/grades are "locked in" at start of the seventh semester (cannot be repeated for grade-point average [GPA] improvement to meet initial-eligibility requirements for competition)."
There are thousands of posts back and forth here and on other threads. It all boils down to this: the prep schools don't have rules in regards to repeating grades, so there shouldn't be any problem with this issue insofar as prep school play is concerned. Public schools do have rules stating you can't reclassify for discretionary reasons. If you want that option, you have to go via a private school.
The clubs in this sport go by graduation years as well, and that makes lacrosse different from most other sports that are simply age based. I've never read anything that shows a good cause to be different and do grade based instead of age based youth teams. Many posters have also noted that college coaches do not care if a kid is old for his class, and may prefer it, which is fine. Posters noted that at clubs tournaments college coaches get both the age and the school year from the books issued and could not be confused about either. Since club lacrosse is not a school sport or a school league, why fight so hard against just doing age based teams like the other youth sports? The best players are still the best players, the best athletes are still the best athletes and everyone can read what grade a kid is in.
The point that always gets ignored is rec or club lacrosse is not a great big scholastic sport. It has literally nothing at all to do in any way with schools, school leagues or school rules and requirements. By the reasoning on this board, what would you do with a 16 year old who graduated young from high school? Tell him he can't play because he skipped grades on discretion instead of repeated them on discretion? That makes no sense.
This is a easy one have the kid play with the other 16 year olds. Would we all be yelling for a 16 year old in 12th grade must play 2016 team. I think not he would say I am 16 years old can I play with the 2018 team and everyone would say sure no problem
There are thousands of posts back and forth here and on other threads. It all boils down to this: the prep schools don't have rules in regards to repeating grades, so there shouldn't be any problem with this issue insofar as prep school play is concerned. Public schools do have rules stating you can't reclassify for discretionary reasons. If you want that option, you have to go via a private school.
The clubs in this sport go by graduation years as well, and that makes lacrosse different from most other sports that are simply age based. I've never read anything that shows a good cause to be different and do grade based instead of age based youth teams. Many posters have also noted that college coaches do not care if a kid is old for his class, and may prefer it, which is fine. Posters noted that at clubs tournaments college coaches get both the age and the school year from the books issued and could not be confused about either. Since club lacrosse is not a school sport or a school league, why fight so hard against just doing age based teams like the other youth sports? The best players are still the best players, the best athletes are still the best athletes and everyone can read what grade a kid is in.
The point that always gets ignored is rec or club lacrosse is not a great big scholastic sport. It has literally nothing at all to do in any way with schools, school leagues or school rules and requirements. By the reasoning on this board, what would you do with a 16 year old who graduated young from high school? Tell him he can't play because he skipped grades on discretion instead of repeated them on discretion? That makes no sense.
This is a easy one have the kid play with the other 16 year olds. Would we all be yelling for a 16 year old in 12th grade must play 2016 team. I think not he would say I am 16 years old can I play with the 2018 team and everyone would say sure no problem
What about a kid that skips a grade? Now s/he has to play with older kids because academically they needed to be challenged?
You are incorrect. Many private leagues have rules about transfers and/or kids repeating grades. Many only allow kids to play 4 seasons of a sport (and some don't differentiate between JV and Varsity).
Some do not allow kids to repeat a grade at all. Some only allow transfers for kids of a certain grade and/or age.
Not everyone fits in your bucket.
I am correct as far as every single private league is concerned. Some do have a rule stating you can only play a high school sport 4 times. That is exactly why the 8th grade is most popular for kids in the IAC. If you play 9th grade at a public, you'd have 3 years left to play at an IAC school and some kids do sit out 9th grade reclassify year in order to do that. Then there is the rule you can't repeat a grade in the same league or lose a year to transfer in the same league, but nothing prevents a kid from transferring from an IAC to a WCAC or to go to a boarding school, which also happens a lot. The IAC has a no transfer rule for upperclass grades, but again nothing prevents movement between privates in any year between private schools in different leagues. The only IAC hard rule is you can't be 20 years old. There is an age cap. This isn't a blast on the IAC, same liberal maneuvers can be the case for an MIAA kid who has appetites to reclassify.
And this is the classic diversion away from the central question: how can it be argued that club or rec lacrosse is a scholastic sport? It has absolutely nothing to do with schools, private schools, private or public school leagues in any way whatsoever.
So again, is there a single reason to deem youth club or rec lacrosse a scholastic sport?
This is a easy one have the kid play with the other 16 year olds. Would we all be yelling for a 16 year old in 12th grade must play 2016 team. I think not he would say I am 16 years old can I play with the 2018 team and everyone would say sure no problem [/quote]
And you'd be wrong. I have a nephew who skipped a grade. When lacrosse went from age based teams to school year based ones a year ago he was literally a year younger than on aged classmates and 2+ years younger than the reclassified kids and he was overwhelmed and didn't make the two club teams he tried out for. On age he was a good enough player and athlete, the problem is he was absurdly young for his middle school grade. My brother asked both clubs if he could play down a grade year. They both said they'd never do that because it would screw up kids who were on-grade out of a roster spot in the recruiting. So basically my nephew was excluded out over the optic of recruiting needs to have these kids on grade only based and focused teams. This was an 7th grade team. Clubs don't want and exclude that circumstance to play down to be more age appropriate if very young for their grade. So my nephew quit lacrosse in middle school to try other sports. That's supposed to support the argument that grade based teams for non-scholastic sports makes sense? Sorry, that fails.
FCA got beaten badly by Bethesda - not sure how that makes them undefeated lol.
I heard the score was 6-4 with FCA 2022 winning at Severn. FCA looks to have benefited from the Breakers 2022 split as much as Team 91 MD.
Lol. The people who are still talking about who won a fall playday scrimmage. By two goals.
Can we have a polite consensus of where the 2020/8th grade teams stack up at this point based on the last couple of weeks of games? Easy for the DC area teams and the Hawks because they were at the Madlax tournament last weekend. Here is a shot (know nothing about where Bal teams fit in such as FCA, GT and Looneys):
1. Crabs
2. Next Level
3. 3d Mid-Atlantic
4. Madlax Capital
5. Hawks
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
We drive from DC burbs in car pool to BL for Crabs and it is a Ruth Chris experience in terms of coaching/instruction. And it is way cheaper than any other program my kids have played for. No--brainer.....
We drive from DC burbs in car pool to BL for Crabs and it is a Ruth Chris experience in terms of coaching/instruction. And it is way cheaper than any other program my kids have played for. No--brainer.....
Ruth Chris experience? I just threw up in my mouth a little. 1998 called. They want their fancy-restaurant reference back.
what are the best tourneys in this area for the younger ages
We drive from DC burbs in car pool to BL for Crabs and it is a Ruth Chris experience in terms of coaching/instruction. And it is way cheaper than any other program my kids have played for. No--brainer.....
Ruth Chris experience? I just threw up in my mouth a little. 1998 called. They want their fancy-restaurant reference back.
On the other hand I could be in the car for an hour going from Falls Church to a Ruth Chris in Tysons Corner. Might be better for a MoCo parent to just state playing for an elite club in Baltimore is a no-brainer versus driving over the Cabin John Bridge in traffic for any reason.
Can we have a polite consensus of where the 2020/8th grade teams stack up at this point based on the last couple of weeks of games? Easy for the DC area teams and the Hawks because they were at the Madlax tournament last weekend. Here is a shot (know nothing about where Bal teams fit in such as FCA, GT and Looneys):
1. Crabs
2. Next Level
3. 3d Mid-Atlantic
4. Madlax Capital
5. Hawks
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
That was the Hawks' second team, the Green team would beat everyone on this list except for crabs.
Can we have a polite consensus of where the 2020/8th grade teams stack up at this point based on the last couple of weeks of games? Easy for the DC area teams and the Hawks because they were at the Madlax tournament last weekend. Here is a shot (know nothing about where Bal teams fit in such as FCA, GT and Looneys):
1. Crabs
2. Next Level
3. 3d Mid-Atlantic
4. Madlax Capital
5. Hawks
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
FCA Blue, Looneys Orange, 91 Force all in same tier as Crabs
Thunder, 91 Platnum, Looneys Green, FCA White would all be competitive with 6-10 on your list. Heard Koopers 2020 was improved
Can we have a polite consensus of where the 2020/8th grade teams stack up at this point based on the last couple of weeks of games? Easy for the DC area teams and the Hawks because they were at the Madlax tournament last weekend. Here is a shot (know nothing about where Bal teams fit in such as FCA, GT and Looneys):
1. Crabs
2. Next Level
3. 3d Mid-Atlantic
4. Madlax Capital
5. Hawks
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
VLC should be #3. That 3d team won the B division and doesn't have a lot of guys. Madlax has been housed in multiple tournaments.
Ruth Chris steaks are very expensive for what you get. I would think if you were talking about bang for the buck maybe GTR versus Ferrari? (I know you NOVA people have loads of cash)
We drive from DC burbs in car pool to BL for Crabs and it is a Ruth Chris experience in terms of coaching/instruction. And it is way cheaper than any other program my kids have played for. No--brainer.....
The only Ruths Chris similarity regarding the Crabs is the butter stains on Ryan's shirt
Can we have a polite consensus of where the 2020/8th grade teams stack up at this point based on the last couple of weeks of games? Easy for the DC area teams and the Hawks because they were at the Madlax tournament last weekend. Here is a shot (know nothing about where Bal teams fit in such as FCA, GT and Looneys):
1. Crabs
2. Next Level
3. 3d Mid-Atlantic
4. Madlax Capital
5. Hawks
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
VLC should be #3. That 3d team won the B division and doesn't have a lot of guys. Madlax has been housed in multiple tournaments.
Doubtful but we will know more after Sunday since MadLax Capital and VLC are playing in the crabs tournament with Crabs, Looneys, and Edge, 3 legitimate top teams.
Can we have a polite consensus of where the 2020/8th grade teams stack up at this point based on the last couple of weeks of games? Easy for the DC area teams and the Hawks because they were at the Madlax tournament last weekend. Here is a shot (know nothing about where Bal teams fit in such as FCA, GT and Looneys):
1. Crabs
2. Next Level
3. 3d Mid-Atlantic
4. Madlax Capital
5. Hawks
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
VLC should be #3. That 3d team won the B division and doesn't have a lot of guys. Madlax has been housed in multiple tournaments.
Ok, if you want to give VLC 2020 at B+ instead of a B, go for it. Check back on Monday, we will want to move them down to the C level.
Can we have a polite consensus of where the 2020/8th grade teams stack up at this point based on the last couple of weeks of games? Easy for the DC area teams and the Hawks because they were at the Madlax tournament last weekend. Here is a shot (know nothing about where Bal teams fit in such as FCA, GT and Looneys):
1. Crabs
2. Next Level
3. 3d Mid-Atlantic
4. Madlax Capital
5. Hawks
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
FCA Blue, Looneys Orange, 91 Force all in same tier as Crabs
Thunder, 91 Platnum, Looneys Green, FCA White would all be competitive with 6-10 on your list. Heard Koopers 2020 was improved
Koopers was blown out in the Battle of the Bay. Did they even come withing 6 goals of anyone?
Can we have a polite consensus of where the 2020/8th grade teams stack up at this point based on the last couple of weeks of games? Easy for the DC area teams and the Hawks because they were at the Madlax tournament last weekend. Here is a shot (know nothing about where Bal teams fit in such as FCA, GT and Looneys):
1. Crabs
2. Next Level
3. 3d Mid-Atlantic
4. Madlax Capital
5. Hawks
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
3D Atlantic can barely field a team but did win the B division....they don't belong on this list though. I would throw the 2020 Cavs team on there near the bottom...not a bad showing. 0-3 in the AA division, but at least they're playing up now.
VLC 2020 smoked the rough riders....not even close. I'd say they're on par with madlax capital 2020....middle of the road AA.
VLC 2020 smoked the rough riders....not even close. I'd say they're on par with madlax capital 2020....middle of the road AA.
Those VLC parents are so cute. Should we tell them now, or just wait until they find out on their own? I hate spoiling the surprise.
VLC 2020 smoked the rough riders....not even close. I'd say they're on par with madlax capital 2020....middle of the road AA.
Those VLC parents are so cute. Should we tell them now, or just wait until they find out on their own? I hate spoiling the surprise.
FYI...VLC parent, that Rough Riders team is severely depleted from last year, not the team they used to be.
VLC 2020 smoked the rough riders....not even close. I'd say they're on par with madlax capital 2020....middle of the road AA.
Those VLC parents are so cute. Should we tell them now, or just wait until they find out on their own? I hate spoiling the surprise.
You really should get a life.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I literally dropped my non-fat non-dairy decaf soy latte at the Great Falls Starbucks after seeing VLC not ranked #1. Who are you people?
Can we have a polite consensus of where the 2020/8th grade teams stack up at this point based on the last couple of weeks of games? Easy for the DC area teams and the Hawks because they were at the Madlax tournament last weekend. Here is a shot (know nothing about where Bal teams fit in such as FCA, GT and Looneys):
1. Crabs
2. Next Level
3. 3d Mid-Atlantic
4. Madlax Capital
5. Hawks
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
FCA Blue, Looneys Orange, 91 Force all in same tier as Crabs
Thunder, 91 Platnum, Looneys Green, FCA White would all be competitive with 6-10 on your list. Heard Koopers 2020 was improved
Koopers was blown out in the Battle of the Bay. Did they even come withing 6 goals of anyone?
who did they play? is there any posting of the results there
VLC 2020 smoked the rough riders....not even close. I'd say they're on par with madlax capital 2020....middle of the road AA.
That had to be one heck of a Hershey's Championship game! You guys get kiss shaped champs hats?
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
Can we have a polite consensus of where the 2020/8th grade teams stack up at this point based on the last couple of weeks of games? Easy for the DC area teams and the Hawks because they were at the Madlax tournament last weekend. Here is a shot (know nothing about where Bal teams fit in such as FCA, GT and Looneys):
1. Crabs
2. Next Level
3. 3d Mid-Atlantic
4. Madlax Capital
5. Hawks
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
FCA Blue, Looneys Orange, 91 Force all in same tier as Crabs
Thunder, 91 Platnum, Looneys Green, FCA White would all be competitive with 6-10 on your list. Heard Koopers 2020 was improved
Koopers, while having many talented players, would really really have to improve to be able to compete with the top 5 in Baltimore area. Last year Koopers struggled with Looney's Green, FCA White and Breakers White (now 91 Platnum).
Can we have a polite consensus of where the 2020/8th grade teams stack up at this point based on the last couple of weeks of games? Easy for the DC area teams and the Hawks because they were at the Madlax tournament last weekend. Here is a shot (know nothing about where Bal teams fit in such as FCA, GT and Looneys):
1. Crabs
2. Next Level
3. 3d Mid-Atlantic
4. Madlax Capital
5. Hawks
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
FCA Blue, Looneys Orange, 91 Force all in same tier as Crabs
Thunder, 91 Platnum, Looneys Green, FCA White would all be competitive with 6-10 on your list. Heard Koopers 2020 was improved
Koopers, while having many talented players, would really really have to improve to be able to compete with the top 5 in Baltimore area. Last year Koopers struggled with Looney's Green, FCA White and Breakers White (now 91 Platnum).
I think this reflects reality through the fall so far:
1. Crabs
2. Hawks
3. Next Level
4. Madlax Capital
4. 3d Mid-Atlantic
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
Who have Next Level, MadLax, VLC, or 3D beaten to earn this ranking?
Based on last weekends madlax tournament results. See above.
Who have Next Level, MadLax, VLC, or 3D beaten to earn this ranking?
I think the list (which is meaningless) was referring to teams in the DMV (although I wouldn't include Crabs and Hawks in that list). The person talking wasn't implying a national ranking.
I was there at that Madlax tournament. 3d should not be above either Madlax or VLC. They played in a B division and were not impressive at all. I would need to see VLC and Madlax either play more or go head to head before stating which is better.
Crabs are definitely far ahead of any team in this area.
Who are top 6 7 and 8 grade teams?
2021 (7th grade) not in any order;
Hawks
Crabs
Bethesda
Turtle Verde
All U.S. add;
Team 91
Igloo
Carolina Cyclones
I am sure I am missing some good teams.... Who am I missing
Who are top 6 7 and 8 grade teams?
6th 2022
Diamondbacks
Cannons
Hawks
Madlax
Crabs
Team 91 MD (Breakers)
FCA
Bethesda
No particular order - Any given day - any one could win.
Who are top 6 7 and 8 grade teams?
6th 2022
Diamondbacks
Cannons
Hawks
Madlax
Crabs
Team 91 MD (Breakers)
FCA
Bethesda
No particular order - Any given day - any one could win.
How can you say this? How many of these teams have even played each other yet? Even changing 3-4 players can really change a team's dynamic. And many of these teams lost or gained more than that. I don't know that any one of them could win on any day at all. We will see.
Who are top 6 7 and 8 grade teams?
6th 2022
Diamondbacks
Cannons
Hawks
Madlax
Crabs
Team 91 MD (Breakers)
FCA
Bethesda
No particular order - Any given day - any one could win.
How can you say this? How many of these teams have even played each other yet? Even changing 3-4 players can really change a team's dynamic. And many of these teams lost or gained more than that. I don't know that any one of them could win on any day at all. We will see.
This based on the spring and summer and a couple scrimmages this fall. Any other teams in the discussion? And of these teams out of the discussion?
Who are top 6 7 and 8 grade teams?
6th 2022
Diamondbacks
Cannons
Hawks
Madlax
Crabs
Team 91 MD (Breakers)
FCA
Bethesda
No particular order - Any given day - any one could win.
FCA lost 12-1 to Crabs and 10-2 to Team 91 MD a couple weeks ago. Not sure they belong on list.
Who are top 6 7 and 8 grade teams?
6th 2022
Diamondbacks
Cannons
Hawks
Madlax
Crabs
Team 91 MD (Breakers)
FCA
Bethesda
No particular order - Any given day - any one could win.
FCA lost 12-1 to Crabs and 10-2 to Team 91 MD a couple weeks ago. Not sure they belong on list.
This list needs to be done at the end of spring ball and the end of summer tournament season. Fall is never a good way to find the best teams. Football players and other things stop the teams from being even.
Who are top 6 7 and 8 grade teams?
6th 2022
Diamondbacks
Cannons
Hawks
Madlax
Crabs
Team 91 MD (Breakers)
FCA
Bethesda
No particular order - Any given day - any one could win.
FCA lost 12-1 to Crabs and 10-2 to Team 91 MD a couple weeks ago. Not sure they belong on list.
That's not the same FCA who scrimmaged at Severn last week -no way. They beat Bethesda and Hawks, although Hawks only by 1. They were big and good. Hawks and Bethesda are both very good teams.
Who are top 6 7 and 8 grade teams?
6th 2022
Diamondbacks
Cannons
Hawks
Madlax
Crabs
Team 91 MD (Breakers)
FCA
Bethesda
No particular order - Any given day - any one could win.
FCA lost 12-1 to Crabs and 10-2 to Team 91 MD a couple weeks ago. Not sure they belong on list.
That's not the same FCA who scrimmaged at Severn last week -no way. They beat Bethesda and Hawks, although Hawks only by 1. They were big and good. Hawks and Bethesda are both very good teams.
They were the same team. FCA Blue.
2021 list has to include Koopers. Beat Crabs pretty easily last summer.
Who are top 6 7 and 8 grade teams?
6th 2022
Diamondbacks
Cannons
Hawks
Madlax
Crabs
Team 91 MD (Breakers)
FCA
Bethesda
No particular order - Any given day - any one could win.
FCA lost 12-1 to Crabs and 10-2 to Team 91 MD a couple weeks ago. Not sure they belong on list.
That's not the same FCA who scrimmaged at Severn last week -no way. They beat Bethesda and Hawks, although Hawks only by 1. They were big and good. Hawks and Bethesda are both very good teams.
They were the same team. FCA Blue.
Both FCA's A & B teams were at MD Lacrosse Invitational. It was their B team that was blown out by Team 91 and Crabs - not the team that went to Severn.
Who are top 6 7 and 8 grade teams?
6th 2022
Diamondbacks
Cannons
Hawks
Madlax
Crabs
Team 91 MD (Breakers)
FCA
Bethesda
No particular order - Any given day - any one could win.
FCA lost 12-1 to Crabs and 10-2 to Team 91 MD a couple weeks ago. Not sure they belong on list.
This list needs to be done at the end of spring ball and the end of summer tournament season. Fall is never a good way to find the best teams. Football players and other things stop the teams from being even.
These teams change tournament by tournament throughout the year so any time is just as good as any other to evaluate. It's not like someone is out there verifying rosters and ages.
That's not true. Hawks 2022 has a set roster. All kids are 6th grade. You can verify that.
Who are top 6 7 and 8 grade teams?
6th 2022
Diamondbacks
Cannons
Hawks
Madlax
Crabs
Team 91 MD (Breakers)
FCA
Bethesda
No particular order - Any given day - any one could win.
FCA lost 12-1 to Crabs and 10-2 to Team 91 MD a couple weeks ago. Not sure they belong on list.
This list needs to be done at the end of spring ball and the end of summer tournament season. Fall is never a good way to find the best teams. Football players and other things stop the teams from being even.
These teams change tournament by tournament throughout the year so any time is just as good as any other to evaluate. It's not like someone is out there verifying rosters and ages.
Speak for your own team. My kids team is not doing that - changing tourney by tourney. And they are all 2022.
Hawks 2022s looked good at Severn. Not sure if they were missing kids since DELETED
Who are top 6 7 and 8 grade teams?
6th 2022
Diamondbacks
Cannons
Hawks
Madlax
Crabs
Team 91 MD (Breakers)
FCA
Bethesda
No particular order - Any given day - any one could win.
FCA lost 12-1 to Crabs and 10-2 to Team 91 MD a couple weeks ago. Not sure they belong on list.
That's not the same FCA who scrimmaged at Severn last week -no way. They beat Bethesda and Hawks, although Hawks only by 1. They were big and good. Hawks and Bethesda are both very good teams.
They were the same team. FCA Blue.
Both FCA's A & B teams were at MD Lacrosse Invitational. It was their B team that was blown out by Team 91 and Crabs - not the team that went to Severn.
Wrong!!! Crabs played FCA Blue and won 12-1. Team 91 beat FCA blue 10-2. Team 91 also played FCA white. Crabs only played FCA blue. Nice try though
Can we have a polite consensus of where the 2020/8th grade teams stack up at this point based on the last couple of weeks of games? Easy for the DC area teams and the Hawks because they were at the Madlax tournament last weekend. Here is a shot (know nothing about where Bal teams fit in such as FCA, GT and Looneys):
1. Crabs
2. Next Level
3. 3d Mid-Atlantic
4. Madlax Capital
5. Hawks
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
FCA Blue, Looneys Orange, 91 Force all in same tier as Crabs
Thunder, 91 Platnum, Looneys Green, FCA White would all be competitive with 6-10 on your list. Heard Koopers 2020 was improved
Koopers, while having many talented players, would really really have to improve to be able to compete with the top 5 in Baltimore area. Last year Koopers struggled with Looney's Green, FCA White and Breakers White (now 91 Platnum).
I think this reflects reality through the fall so far:
1. Crabs
2. Hawks
3. Next Level
4. Madlax Capital
4. 3d Mid-Atlantic
6. VLC
7. Roughriders
8. Bethesda
?. Club Blue
?. Cannons
Based on what? 3-10 are not even in the same class as Looneys Orange, FCA Blue or 91 Force who you left off the list. These clubs second tier A/AA teams could beat most of the teams on this list.
For 2021 you have to add Koopers. They beat Crabs pretty easily the past few years
2021 Hawks looked good this weekend although Bitmore was beating them at half and then was man down for over 8 minutes in 2nd half which ultimately cost them.
VLC 2020 smoked the rough riders....not even close. I'd say they're on par with madlax capital 2020....middle of the road AA.
We are guessing you VLC 2020 parents understand that you are a B team after yesterday?
3D 2020s beat the Hill Academy varsity which beat team USA. That's the best 2020 team in the galaxy now. And Hill is too a AA level team!
VLC 2020 smoked the rough riders....not even close. I'd say they're on par with madlax capital 2020....middle of the road AA.
We are guessing you VLC 2020 parents understand that you are a B team after yesterday?
No, they are not. But your obsession with that club is bizarre. Nobody - including their parents - talks about them on this board except a couple dads from your club.
3D 2020s beat the Hill Academy varsity which beat team USA. That's the best 2020 team in the galaxy now. And Hill is too a AA level team!
That would be amazing if it only happened to be true.
Madlax Capital 2018 lost to Jesters at Big 12? ??
The Madlax 2018 team has fallen apart. Several weak, uninspiring performances this fall. They have been consistently right below Crabs and other top 2018 teams, but it seems like they stopped playing after their top 4-5 guys committed.
VLC 2020 smoked the rough riders....not even close. I'd say they're on par with madlax capital 2020....middle of the road AA.
We are guessing you VLC 2020 parents understand that you are a B team after yesterday?
No, they are not. But your obsession with that club is bizarre. Nobody - including their parents - talks about them on this board except a couple dads from your club.
The obsession is odd, especially since VLC parents never post here. Unless you're a Crabs parent or Looneys parent, go ahead and call yourselves B teams also in that case ;-)
VLC 2020 smoked the rough riders....not even close. I'd say they're on par with madlax capital 2020....middle of the road AA.
We are guessing you VLC 2020 parents understand that you are a B team after yesterday?
No, they are not. But your obsession with that club is bizarre. Nobody - including their parents - talks about them on this board except a couple dads from your club.
The obsession is odd, especially since VLC parents never post here. Unless you're a Crabs parent or Looneys parent, go ahead and call yourselves B teams also in that case ;-)
what about FCA Blue? Did they play any fall tournaments?
nope, no reason cause we will beat Looneys again this year.
The Madlax 2018 team has fallen apart. Several weak, uninspiring performances this fall. They have been consistently right below Crabs and other top 2018 teams, but it seems like they stopped playing after their top 4-5 guys committed.
This is the same pattern from the "top 2017" DMV teams and players. A good number of the top players and teams from 8th grade or 9th grade have fallen off, not performing and lack a real competitive passion. Not just a Madlax thing. When these kids get set up to believe the only thing that counts and is the ultimate credential is committing to a college very young, they buy in to that and this happens a lot.
The Madlax 2018 team has fallen apart. Several weak, uninspiring performances this fall. They have been consistently right below Crabs and other top 2018 teams, but it seems like they stopped playing after their top 4-5 guys committed.
Well that is how this thing kinda works. Also you have to remember that most of Madlax top players go to top Private schools. And these top private schools are playing more and more fall and summer tournaments. And I think the parents of the kids who have not picked a college like when the top guys are not there. More time for their kid to be seen. Madlax plays a full schedule every summer and fall. Which is great if you are still looking for a school. But when a school picks you its better to play less and practice more. There is not a easy answer or plan.
You are right about exactly the way club lacrosse works. Kind of sad but they are just college promotion concierge services now. I miss the days when the more important thing was competing to do something distinguished and win, not to get noticed. This is also the reason why prep lacrosse at the local top schools is degrading...the prep coaches are stuck taking a lot of time to unwind the club "individual showcase skill set" that is wired into these kids. Pretty soon it will be why bother to even play in college when you get there? The only greatest thing is this commit status game, and after that the passion for competition goes down. Just doing wall ball and cardio every day does nothing to nurture or develop mental toughness and competitive grit. It is no small wonder so many highly regarded early teens don't develop in high school and then never see the field in college.
You are right about exactly the way club lacrosse works. Kind of sad but they are just college promotion concierge services now. I miss the days when the more important thing was competing to do something distinguished and win, not to get noticed. This is also the reason why prep lacrosse at the local top schools is degrading...the prep coaches are stuck taking a lot of time to unwind the club "individual showcase skill set" that is wired into these kids. Pretty soon it will be why bother to even play in college when you get there? The only greatest thing is this commit status game, and after that the passion for competition goes down. Just doing wall ball and cardio every day does nothing to nurture or develop mental toughness and competitive grit. It is no small wonder so many highly regarded early teens don't develop in high school and then never see the field in college.
Well the best quote I have ever heard is "If playing Lacrosse gets him into Blank college I do not care if he quiets after the first practice."
The Madlax 2018 team has fallen apart. Several weak, uninspiring performances this fall. They have been consistently right below Crabs and other top 2018 teams, but it seems like they stopped playing after their top 4-5 guys committed.
This was less than uninspiring. They never had the ball! Between the jesters fogo and being man down , really didn't have it!
The Madlax 2018 team has fallen apart. Several weak, uninspiring performances this fall. They have been consistently right below Crabs and other top 2018 teams, but it seems like they stopped playing after their top 4-5 guys committed.
This was less than uninspiring. They never had the ball! Between the jesters fogo and being man down , really didn't have it!
Well as we all can agree on if the FOGO is winning 100% of the faceoffs its hard to make it a game if the rest of the team are even close in skill.
I don't think any less of a kid or a parent who uses lacrosse to get into a school they would otherwise not get into. But rationally speaking, look at the 30 or so not so selective colleges out there for D1 lacrosse and consider what kind of student your son would be to need lacrosse to get him in. Several of them are colleges that accept 65%-85% of the applicant pool. That means if you are a qualified student and can pay, you're in. Getting all excited about being committed for lacrosse is just a lacrosse ambition. Then you have to go to school and be happy there too.
I don't think any less of a kid or a parent who uses lacrosse to get into a school they would otherwise not get into. But rationally speaking, look at the 30 or so not so selective colleges out there for D1 lacrosse and consider what kind of student your son would be to need lacrosse to get him in. Several of them are colleges that accept 65%-85% of the applicant pool. That means if you are a qualified student and can pay, you're in. Getting all excited about being committed for lacrosse is just a lacrosse ambition. Then you have to go to school and be happy there too.
I just look at this whole thing as a way to keep my kid focused and out of trouble. Teenage boys need a road map to move through life. Us adults know that the lacrosse road really does not have big pay off at the end. But we also know that this road will get them past all the bad exit ramps on the way through high school. If my son misses the party where he gets a girl pregnant because he had to leave early for a lacrosse tournament I count that as a parenting win.
Winner Winner chicken dinner. Winner winner Sheen dinner.
Why would anyone have their son play for that lunatic Madlax owner?
The Madlax 2018 team has fallen apart. Several weak, uninspiring performances this fall. They have been consistently right below Crabs and other top 2018 teams, but it seems like they stopped playing after their top 4-5 guys committed.
Well that is how this thing kinda works. Also you have to remember that most of Madlax top players go to top Private schools. And these top private schools are playing more and more fall and summer tournaments. And I think the parents of the kids who have not picked a college like when the top guys are not there. More time for their kid to be seen. Madlax plays a full schedule every summer and fall. Which is great if you are still looking for a school. But when a school picks you its better to play less and practice more. There is not a easy answer or plan.
I don't think olaying less is the answer. If you commit in 9th grade and only play 12 school games a year , and think you will be preheated for D1 lacrosse , you are mistaken. You need to continue playing at the highest level.
The Madlax 2018 team has fallen apart. Several weak, uninspiring performances this fall. They have been consistently right below Crabs and other top 2018 teams, but it seems like they stopped playing after their top 4-5 guys committed.
Well that is how this thing kinda works. Also you have to remember that most of Madlax top players go to top Private schools. And these top private schools are playing more and more fall and summer tournaments. And I think the parents of the kids who have not picked a college like when the top guys are not there. More time for their kid to be seen. Madlax plays a full schedule every summer and fall. Which is great if you are still looking for a school. But when a school picks you its better to play less and practice more. There is not a easy answer or plan.
I don't think olaying less is the answer. If you commit in 9th grade and only play 12 school games a year , and think you will be preheated for D1 lacrosse , you are mistaken. You need to continue playing at the highest level.
My point is Landon and the others play at least a fall and summer tournament. Then if the kid does a showcase or camp like thing. He will and can miss a couple Madlax tournaments. Which is why to got back the older Madlax teams fall off a little. The Hot bed teams are cutting D1 kids early on so they can bring them on late in the game and not miss a beat. NOVA is not that deep so when the firt line of D1 kids slow down due to early recruiting the fill ins are not as good.
Why would anyone have their son play for that lunatic Madlax owner?
So you want to go back to this really. For the 100000 time he is all bark and no bite. He is crazy yes we all know but he is fine do not let deadspin rule your world. Go fight the holdback and reclass fight that is a real problem not the Madlax owner. He has been exposed we all know he is a little crazy. But the teams and other coaches are good to great and no team in NOVA plays more at all the good to great tournaments.
Any thoughts on the tournament at Landon this Sunday? Should be high quality lacrosse, especially now that football season is over and most teams will be at close to full strength:
Calverton
Hill Academy #1
Hill Academy #2
Georgetown Prep
Gonzaga
Bullis
Paul VI
Severn
Severna Park
Churchill
Landon School
Madlax Nationals
East Coast Showcase Team #1
East Coast Showcase Team #2
East Coast Showcase Team #3
East Coast Showcase Team #4
Why would anyone have their son play for that lunatic Madlax owner?
So you want to go back to this really. For the 100000 time he is all bark and no bite. He is crazy yes we all know but he is fine do not let deadspin rule your world. Go fight the holdback and reclass fight that is a real problem not the Madlax owner. He has been exposed we all know he is a little crazy. But the teams and other coaches are good to great and no team in NOVA plays more at all the good to great tournaments.
If you ask the people whose kids have played for him, or people who've coached against him, or people who've dealt with him, I think they wouldn't use the words "a little crazy".
You are an amazing apologist.
3 or 4 top ten teams in US--should be some good lacrosse
Maybe GZ and Landon, but not sure what other top 10 are there.....
Ugh I think Prep and the Hill might not agree with that!
Maybe GZ and Landon, but not sure what other top 10 are there.....
Wow, talk about a hater. Keep your venom for the silly club ball arguments. Lax power had Landon, Gonzaga and Prep in the top 10, and the Hill Academy was a top 20 program no one wanted to play. The rest of the field is also strong. Great tourney, also the NHSLS the day before should be even better.
I agree with everything you wrote up until "NHSLS should be even better." Really, 4 top teams in US at Landon (how many D1s just among those 4 teams) and you think NHSLS is better?!
I agree with everything you wrote up until "NHSLS should be even better." Really, 4 top teams in US at Landon (how many D1s just among those 4 teams) and you think NHSLS is better?!
yes, because there are better teams at the NHSLS. Are you really trying to argue against that? Last I checked the MIAA was a better conference than the IAC.
It's not a question of whether the MIAA is better than the IAC. Both tournaments have several excellent teams entered. Both are good events for recruiters and fans to watch.
It's not a question of whether the MIAA is better than the IAC. Both tournaments have several excellent teams entered. Both are good events for recruiters and fans to watch.
I agree, but someone balked at the idea that Saturday at BL and RPCS was not a better collection of teams than Sunday at Landon. I'd put BL, McDonogh, St. Pauls, Calvert Hall, Gilman and MSJ above the collection of DC teams.
Final 2015 National Rankings below--where are any MIAA schools listed?
1 Haverford School
2 Landon
3 Gonzaga
4 Victor
5 Bridgewater-Raritan
6 Hun School
7 Syosset
8 Darien
9 Brunswick School
10 Georgetown Prep
If I am located somewhere halfway between the two venues, like Columbia, MD, I would rather drive south to see 3 top ten teams at Landon.....
First of all, the national "rankings" are an art, not a science. Second, those teams are not the same teams right now. Some teams are better, some are worse.
NHSLS has a lot of great teams, many of whom are in the MIAA.
The Madlax one has a lot of great teams, many of whom are in the IAC or WCAC.
Arguing which is better is pointless.
Why would anyone have their son play for that lunatic Madlax owner?
So you want to go back to this really. For the 100000 time he is all bark and no bite. He is crazy yes we all know but he is fine do not let deadspin rule your world. Go fight the holdback and reclass fight that is a real problem not the Madlax owner. He has been exposed we all know he is a little crazy. But the teams and other coaches are good to great and no team in NOVA plays more at all the good to great tournaments.
If you ask the people whose kids have played for him, or people who've coached against him, or people who've dealt with him, I think they wouldn't use the words "a little crazy".
You are an amazing apologist.
So once again real crazy is when someone hits/kills/tackles any of these things are full crazy. He wrote a bad email or two lol but if you are leaving what should you care about a email. He yells on the sideline but he is correct with what he is saying and when the kids do what he is yelling about they do better and win. The club has been around sense 1996 and its just as strong or stronger then it ever has been. He is not raising my son. He is just the coach and owner of his club lacrosse team. If this was a college coach maybe you would have a point but even if your kid is on the team he is coaching at the time they have 1 or 2 mins of alone talking time not on the field during the game for a complete season. The other coaches are all great guys and spend time and talk to the boys about life and all that. So once again this is not a pastor or mayor we are talking about its a club owner.
Why would anyone have their son play for that lunatic Madlax owner?
So you want to go back to this really. For the 100000 time he is all bark and no bite. He is crazy yes we all know but he is fine do not let deadspin rule your world. Go fight the holdback and reclass fight that is a real problem not the Madlax owner. He has been exposed we all know he is a little crazy. But the teams and other coaches are good to great and no team in NOVA plays more at all the good to great tournaments.
If you ask the people whose kids have played for him, or people who've coached against him, or people who've dealt with him, I think they wouldn't use the words "a little crazy".
You are an amazing apologist.
So once again real crazy is when someone hits/kills/tackles any of these things are full crazy. He wrote a bad email or two lol but if you are leaving what should you care about a email. He yells on the sideline but he is correct with what he is saying and when the kids do what he is yelling about they do better and win. The club has been around sense 1996 and its just as strong or stronger then it ever has been. He is not raising my son. He is just the coach and owner of his club lacrosse team. If this was a college coach maybe you would have a point but even if your kid is on the team he is coaching at the time they have 1 or 2 mins of alone talking time not on the field during the game for a complete season. The other coaches are all great guys and spend time and talk to the boys about life and all that. So once again this is not a pastor or mayor we are talking about its a club owner.
It wasn't just an email or two. He's done the same thing to many different kids and families. And why else do you think he's been fired from every coaching job he's ever had?
Ask some families with older kids and they'll tell you stories.
The national rankings are a joke, after the first three. The MIAA schools beat up on each other and get penalized for it. Numbers 4-9 on the list would all have losing records in the MIAA. Most of these schools play patsy schedules and get challenged once or twice.
Why would anyone have their son play for that lunatic Madlax owner?
So you want to go back to this really. For the 100000 time he is all bark and no bite. He is crazy yes we all know but he is fine do not let deadspin rule your world. Go fight the holdback and reclass fight that is a real problem not the Madlax owner. He has been exposed we all know he is a little crazy. But the teams and other coaches are good to great and no team in NOVA plays more at all the good to great tournaments.
If you ask the people whose kids have played for him, or people who've coached against him, or people who've dealt with him, I think they wouldn't use the words "a little crazy".
You are an amazing apologist.
So once again real crazy is when someone hits/kills/tackles any of these things are full crazy. He wrote a bad email or two lol but if you are leaving what should you care about a email. He yells on the sideline but he is correct with what he is saying and when the kids do what he is yelling about they do better and win. The club has been around sense 1996 and its just as strong or stronger then it ever has been. He is not raising my son. He is just the coach and owner of his club lacrosse team. If this was a college coach maybe you would have a point but even if your kid is on the team he is coaching at the time they have 1 or 2 mins of alone talking time not on the field during the game for a complete season. The other coaches are all great guys and spend time and talk to the boys about life and all that. So once again this is not a pastor or mayor we are talking about its a club owner.
It wasn't just an email or two. He's done the same thing to many different kids and families. And why else do you think he's been fired from every coaching job he's ever had?
Ask some families with older kids and they'll tell you stories.
I have heard every story twice. He is mean to people on his bad side got it. He is a baby got it. But the product is way above avg. and we play great lacrosse at a very high level. I am sure the owner of Wegmans is a jerk and crazy but I do not care I like the cheese and great meats.
Steve Jobs wasn't very nice, should we all stop buying Apple stuff?
No, you have not heard every story. You are living in a bubble, posting multiple times a day on this forum, looking for any mention of Madlax.
If Madlax works for you, then I guess you have to find ways to justify paying/playing for a guy who treats people like garbage. Can't wait till he turns on you and you admit you were wrong all along.
Will someone post the scores from the Battle on the Bay tournament over Halloween weekend for the 2022 age group?
Sorry that Cabel cut your son and he had to play for lights out
Sorry that Cabel cut your son and he had to play for lights out
My son is in college. We left for BW and it was the best decision we ever made.
How's that Madlax VA and MD thing working out?
Will someone post the scores from the Battle on the Bay tournament over Halloween weekend for the 2022 age group?
What team you looking for?
Will someone post the scores from the Battle on the Bay tournament over Halloween weekend for the 2022 age group?
What team you looking for?
Madlax or Bethesda LC
No, you have not heard every story. You are living in a bubble, posting multiple times a day on this forum, looking for any mention of Madlax.
If Madlax works for you, then I guess you have to find ways to justify paying/playing for a guy who treats people like garbage. Can't wait till he turns on you and you admit you were wrong all along.
Please tell me the reason he turns on people. I think the first and main reason is when people leave. So if I decide to leave and he is mad I am cool with it.>>>>>>>>>>>>> I left so who cares if he is mad. This is how things work like when your EX girlfriend left you and you where crying and calling her names its like that.
Sorry that Cabel cut your son and he had to play for lights out
My son is in college. We left for BW and it was the best decision we ever made.
How's that Madlax VA and MD thing working out?
Have you ever heard anyone say Blackwolf is not a great club. But you must AGREE they are a Sandbagging club who just emails all the other clubs great players who where taught and developed by another program. I agree they have great players but 99% of those players play at elite private high schools. So they use Blackwolf to play a couple extra high level tournaments a year and then go back and put in the real work with their elite high school team. Also how many kids total play for Blackwolf at a given time. This is a guess but lets say 60 kids for the whole program. So this number leaves tons of great players with a need for a place to play. So what I am saying is you can not compare Blackwolf to any other program. They develop stud players into what a little bit better stud players. With the 5 tournaments if that and 20 practices over a 12 month time frame.
Any thoughts on the tournament at Landon this Sunday? Should be high quality lacrosse, especially now that football season is over and most teams will be at close to full strength:
Calverton
Hill Academy #1
Hill Academy #2
Georgetown Prep
Gonzaga
Bullis
Paul VI
Severn
Severna Park
Churchill
Landon School
Madlax Nationals
East Coast Showcase Team #1
East Coast Showcase Team #2
East Coast Showcase Team #3
East Coast Showcase Team #4
Hill -- really depends what players they bring. I am guessing it will be their JV team and their freshmen team. None of the preps here would be able to give Hill varsity a good game. Hill JV vs Landon, Gonzaga, Prep would be a good game.
Earlier the Hun School was entered here. I guess they dropped out -- they'd have been an excellent competition for the tournament and is too bad they are not coming.
Any thoughts on the tournament at Landon this Sunday? Should be high quality lacrosse, especially now that football season is over and most teams will be at close to full strength:
Calverton
Hill Academy #1
Hill Academy #2
Georgetown Prep
Gonzaga
Bullis
Paul VI
Severn
Severna Park
Churchill
Landon School
Madlax Nationals
East Coast Showcase Team #1
East Coast Showcase Team #2
East Coast Showcase Team #3
East Coast Showcase Team #4
Hill -- really depends what players they bring. I am guessing it will be their JV team and their freshmen team. None of the preps here would be able to give Hill varsity a good game. Hill JV vs Landon, Gonzaga, Prep would be a good game.
Earlier the Hun School was entered here. I guess they dropped out -- they'd have been an excellent competition for the tournament and is too bad they are not coming.
You know that Gonzaga beat Hill last season 9-8? All are good programs
Any thoughts on the tournament at Landon this Sunday? Should be high quality lacrosse, especially now that football season is over and most teams will be at close to full strength:
Calverton
Hill Academy #1
Hill Academy #2
Georgetown Prep
Gonzaga
Bullis
Paul VI
Severn
Severna Park
Churchill
Landon School
Madlax Nationals
East Coast Showcase Team #1
East Coast Showcase Team #2
East Coast Showcase Team #3
East Coast Showcase Team #4
Hill -- really depends what players they bring. I am guessing it will be their JV team and their freshmen team. None of the preps here would be able to give Hill varsity a good game. Hill JV vs Landon, Gonzaga, Prep would be a good game.
Earlier the Hun School was entered here. I guess they dropped out -- they'd have been an excellent competition for the tournament and is too bad they are not coming.
You know that Gonzaga beat Hill last season 9-8? All are good programs
My son is on one of the showcase teams at the bottom. We are just hoping he makes it in one peace and plays well. As a public school kid this is a real chance to play the best of the best and see where he stands.
Not sure what amazes me more now...that Madlax keeps putting on dog food showcase events selling it as a steak dinner OR that these college coaches show up to watch and actually stay more than 10 minutes. Some of the fugliest high school lacrosse I have ever seen at Landon today. Wish I'd slept in.
Me ball city. Geez, you'd think the club and HS coaches would figure out after watching Hill's JV team pick Landon apart that it is kinda a good idea to move the ball around. This was like watching an NBA all star game the level of team play was so low.
Must only be a matter of time until all these D1 coaches think to themselves on the drive home about what a disaster early recruiting in the DMV has been. When the 10-15 best players in the fields at this tournament are all Hill 8th 9th and 10th graders, it beggars for some reflection.
Me ball city. Geez, you'd think the club and HS coaches would figure out after watching Hill's JV team pick Landon apart that it is kinda a good idea to move the ball around. This was like watching an NBA all star game the level of team play was so low.
Must only be a matter of time until all these D1 coaches think to themselves on the drive home about what a disaster early recruiting in the DMV has been. When the 10-15 best players in the fields at this tournament are all Hill 8th 9th and 10th graders, it beggars for some reflection.
Ok I hear you but how is this Madlaxs fault? I think all showcases have MEE ball issues heard from the parents in Philly they said same issue. As for bringing to one school 12 very very good high school teams how is this bad for Madlax and the college coaches coming
Yeah, your right. Putting together 4 pick up teams and charging those families a showcase event fee and then rolling a ball out for those teams to go 0-12 and get out scored 153-15 is just biz as usual for Madlax. Jesus, if you think there were 12 very very good teams there today, you either weren't there or have something in common with Stevie Wonder. It was a disgrace Madlax took the money grab that far down.
I thought the tournament was a bit of an eye opener in that Hill brought only their JV and freshmen teams and we're still able to wipe everybody out. The other major takeaway is the public schools at this tournament and the Madlax Nationals team which was mostly a collection of local public school kids more than held their own today. We are exponentially closer to parity between public and prep teams, which is great for the sport of lacrosse in the DMV. The game has grown and there are top local players staying put at their public schools more than before. Perhaps one of the casualties of the early recruiting are the expensive prep schools for lacrosse. No reason to go to them and spend all that money if recruiting goes well without that.
Yeah, your right. Putting together 4 pick up teams and charging those families a showcase event fee and then rolling a ball out for those teams to go 0-12 and get out scored 153-15 is just biz as usual for Madlax. Jesus, if you think there were 12 very very good teams there today, you either weren't there or have something in common with Stevie Wonder. It was a disgrace Madlax took the money grab that far down.
I thought the tournament was a bit of an eye opener in that Hill brought only their JV and freshmen teams and we're still able to wipe everybody out. The other major takeaway is the public schools at this tournament and the Madlax Nationals team which was mostly a collection of local public school kids more than held their own today. We are exponentially closer to parity between public and prep teams, which is great for the sport of lacrosse in the DMV. The game has grown and there are top local players staying put at their public schools more than before. Perhaps one of the casualties of the early recruiting are the expensive prep schools for lacrosse. No reason to go to them and spend all that money if recruiting goes well without that.
Well the Hun school dropped out at the last min. Which is not a good look for them. So for the tournament to work correctly they took 4 teams worth of players from the showcase not 2 teams. I think the showcase teams would of done a lot better if they only took the top 44 players which was the original plan. And I would like you to come back to this list of 12 high schools when the preseason national rankings come out. And the state rankings I am going to guess these teams will all be on this list. In some way. This is a off season event please tell me what you would of done better. Only Bit** about a plan if you have a better one to share!
That is not an accurate statement. That Hill team may have been just their JV guys, maybe a combination of guys. But they played in 3 games, so you can't say they wiped everybody out. Landon was far from impressive, but they - like everyone else - were missing guys. It would have been interesting to see them play Gonzaga or Bullis.
Public schools in VA have gotten better, but there still is a huge gap between the top privates and top publics.
Landon will have a tough time replacing the players they graduated. If yesterday was any indicator they will need to seriously improve on d and in goal to win their conference.
Landon will be fine. May not finish at #2 in US like last year but solid top ten team with only 2 seniors who will play all that much in 2016. Look for them to be a top nationally ranked team for the next 3 or 4 years given what's in the pipeline.
The recruiting pipeline? Doesn't sound like a high school.
The recruiting pipeline? Doesn't sound like a high school.
Hey did you know these top privates recruit their players.
Sorry, maybe I just don't follow Ty on Twitter enough. Are kids verbally committing to the Landon admissions process in 7th grade now?
Fairly pathetic look for a $35 grand a year prep school.
Sorry, maybe I just don't follow Ty on Twitter enough. Are kids verbally committing to the Landon admissions process in 7th grade now?
Fairly pathetic look for a $35 grand a year prep school.
Are you seriously unaware that the prep schools recruit for sports? How many of the football and basketball players do you think could afford to go to those schools?
I have no idea. I rather thought that at schools where there are less than 100 boys in a class at a school that costs a fortune to run that enabling 5-10 lacrosse and then 10-15 football and then 3-4 basketball recruits a year would...I don't know, maybe CHEAPEN the school? I get it that some local preps have top football teams or basketball. Seems like a dopey investment unless it stokes up alumni giving like for a college. I went to a prep school and couldn't imagine being someone decades removed from high school giving a flying $&&@ about the sports team rankings or record, or using that to make a determination on donating money. I guess this is why I just don't get it with the whole recruiting for high school think. Makes no economic sense for the schools.
I have no idea. I rather thought that at schools where there are less than 100 boys in a class at a school that costs a fortune to run that enabling 5-10 lacrosse and then 10-15 football and then 3-4 basketball recruits a year would...I don't know, maybe CHEAPEN the school? I get it that some local preps have top football teams or basketball. Seems like a dopey investment unless it stokes up alumni giving like for a college. I went to a prep school and couldn't imagine being someone decades removed from high school giving a flying $&&@ about the sports team rankings or record, or using that to make a determination on donating money. I guess this is why I just don't get it with the whole recruiting for high school think. Makes no economic sense for the schools.
Not sure what Prep school you went to, but at least in Baltimore, you couldn't be more off base. The amount of Alumni that comes to every football and lacrosse game is amazing. The schools send out weekly alumni emails with results of all the sports team that week. Have you been to a McDonogh vs Gilman football game? To a BL vs St Pauls football game? To a BL vs St. Pauls lacrosse game. Any game between Loyola and Calvert Hall?
Why do you think Heyward Bey personally put in lights at McDonogh's football field? Why do you think that Gilman just put in a new turf field for football? Where do you think the multi-million endowments at these schools come from?
Well, all of that is some news to me. Kind of shocked over that really, but I do believe you there. The DMV preps I am not so sure raise those millions over the sports alums enthusiasm. Baltimore is an odd one.
I have no idea. I rather thought that at schools where there are less than 100 boys in a class at a school that costs a fortune to run that enabling 5-10 lacrosse and then 10-15 football and then 3-4 basketball recruits a year would...I don't know, maybe CHEAPEN the school? I get it that some local preps have top football teams or basketball. Seems like a dopey investment unless it stokes up alumni giving like for a college. I went to a prep school and couldn't imagine being someone decades removed from high school giving a flying $&&@ about the sports team rankings or record, or using that to make a determination on donating money. I guess this is why I just don't get it with the whole recruiting for high school think. Makes no economic sense for the schools.
Not sure what Prep school you went to, but at least in Baltimore, you couldn't be more off base. The amount of Alumni that comes to every football and lacrosse game is amazing. The schools send out weekly alumni emails with results of all the sports team that week. Have you been to a McDonogh vs Gilman football game? To a BL vs St Pauls football game? To a BL vs St. Pauls lacrosse game. Any game between Loyola and Calvert Hall?
Why do you think Heyward Bey personally put in lights at McDonogh's football field? Why do you think that Gilman just put in a new turf field for football? Where do you think the multi-million endowments at these schools come from?
Spot on..There is a reason that these Baltimore small enrollment schools have such great sports team..It isnt only the food they fed them there.. One of downsides is that after paying 9 years of full tuition and you are ready for son or daughter to play varsity...They bring in a stud or studesss on a scholarship who will never let you start the rest of your time at school. And that does happen as I have talked to several pissed off parents... But oh well the Alumni get to watch top talent.
I have no idea. I rather thought that at schools where there are less than 100 boys in a class at a school that costs a fortune to run that enabling 5-10 lacrosse and then 10-15 football and then 3-4 basketball recruits a year would...I don't know, maybe CHEAPEN the school? I get it that some local preps have top football teams or basketball. Seems like a dopey investment unless it stokes up alumni giving like for a college. I went to a prep school and couldn't imagine being someone decades removed from high school giving a flying $&&@ about the sports team rankings or record, or using that to make a determination on donating money. I guess this is why I just don't get it with the whole recruiting for high school think. Makes no economic sense for the schools.
Not sure what Prep school you went to, but at least in Baltimore, you couldn't be more off base. The amount of Alumni that comes to every football and lacrosse game is amazing. The schools send out weekly alumni emails with results of all the sports team that week. Have you been to a McDonogh vs Gilman football game? To a BL vs St Pauls football game? To a BL vs St. Pauls lacrosse game. Any game between Loyola and Calvert Hall?
Why do you think Heyward Bey personally put in lights at McDonogh's football field? Why do you think that Gilman just put in a new turf field for football? Where do you think the multi-million endowments at these schools come from?
Spot on..There is a reason that these Baltimore small enrollment schools have such great sports team..It isnt only the food they fed them there.. One of downsides is that after paying 9 years of full tuition and you are ready for son or daughter to play varsity...They bring in a stud or studesss on a scholarship who will never let you start the rest of your time at school. And that does happen as I have talked to several pissed off parents... But oh well the Alumni get to watch top talent.
Well that makes my day the rich guy who paied 30K a year for middle and high school for his kid. Had his son beat out for Varsity by a poor kid from DC. Let me think if I am going to lose any sleep over this. This is the most white privilege statement I have ever read. Your kid will get Millions when you die. I think he will live sitting on the bench because the poor kid is better.
Might be better if lacrosse goes to the academy soccer model where the kids in that system don't play for their schools. Kids who want it and parents who will pay all out for it can go and focus on that and get what they want out of the sport. To spend $30K on a private school for 4 or 13 years should be for reasons other than a sport. And the other poster is right, high school sports like lacrosse shouldn't be sullied by recruiting basically carving kids out of the sport at their schools. If alums base their contributions to a prep school based in the sports teams, that explains a lot. The endowments at MIAA schools aren't very high, the college matriculations from those schools is weak (for a laugh look at BL's over the last 5-10 years), and it seems to me pretty close to 100% of MIAA grads return to Baltimore after college...mostly because better professional careers aren't awaiting them elsewhere. Do you guys like to sit at the bar in Mt Washington talking about the team of '78? Cougars love that. Not.
Might be better if lacrosse goes to the academy soccer model where the kids in that system don't play for their schools. Kids who want it and parents who will pay all out for it can go and focus on that and get what they want out of the sport. To spend $30K on a private school for 4 or 13 years should be for reasons other than a sport. And the other poster is right, high school sports like lacrosse shouldn't be sullied by recruiting basically carving kids out of the sport at their schools. If alums base their contributions to a prep school based in the sports teams, that explains a lot. The endowments at MIAA schools aren't very high, the college matriculations from those schools is weak (for a laugh look at BL's over the last 5-10 years), and it seems to me pretty close to 100% of MIAA grads return to Baltimore after college...mostly because better professional careers aren't awaiting them elsewhere. Do you guys like to sit at the bar in Mt Washington talking about the team of '78? Cougars love that. Not.
There are so many fallacies in this statement, I don't even know where to begin.
...says the commercial real estate salesman.
I have no idea. I rather thought that at schools where there are less than 100 boys in a class at a school that costs a fortune to run that enabling 5-10 lacrosse and then 10-15 football and then 3-4 basketball recruits a year would...I don't know, maybe CHEAPEN the school? I get it that some local preps have top football teams or basketball. Seems like a dopey investment unless it stokes up alumni giving like for a college. I went to a prep school and couldn't imagine being someone decades removed from high school giving a flying $&&@ about the sports team rankings or record, or using that to make a determination on donating money. I guess this is why I just don't get it with the whole recruiting for high school think. Makes no economic sense for the schools.
Not sure what Prep school you went to, but at least in Baltimore, you couldn't be more off base. The amount of Alumni that comes to every football and lacrosse game is amazing. The schools send out weekly alumni emails with results of all the sports team that week. Have you been to a McDonogh vs Gilman football game? To a BL vs St Pauls football game? To a BL vs St. Pauls lacrosse game. Any game between Loyola and Calvert Hall?
Why do you think Heyward Bey personally put in lights at McDonogh's football field? Why do you think that Gilman just put in a new turf field for football? Where do you think the multi-million endowments at these schools come from?
Mark Teixeira donated a gym to Mt. St. Joes.
Tex donated $1M. Vinny Smith '84, donated $5M, thus the name Smith Center.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
91 force would be one in the top 3 if they could put things together. It's crabs, Looneys, Hawks, Fca right now
Has FCA played this fall at all?
They are practicing which u should be doin
I saw Hawks v 91 2020 teams on the Eastern Shore a couple of weeks ago. Very evenly matched. Tied 5-5. Hawks need a face off guy badly. Their guy routinely beat.
Has FCA played this fall at all?
They went 1-2 at the Rising Sons' play day beat Express, lost to Sons and 91 Force.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
91 force would be one in the top 3 if they could put things together. It's crabs, Looneys, Hawks, Fca right now
Force routinely beat FCA as Breakers and beat them again this fall at the Hill school. They tied Hawks this year, beat Rising Sons and tied Express. Did not get to play Looneys and the King Crabby wouldnt allow them to play In Autumn Classic and he has campaigned against them in this area and probably won't invite them to Crabfeast despite them playing Young Guns last year and being more competitive than the majority of teams playing.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
91 force would be one in the top 3 if they could put things together. It's crabs, Looneys, Hawks, Fca right now
Force routinely beat FCA as Breakers and beat them again this fall at the Hill school. They tied Hawks this year, beat Rising Sons and tied Express. Did not get to play Looneys and the King Crabby wouldnt allow them to play In Autumn Classic and he has campaigned against them in this area and probably won't invite them to Crabfeast despite them playing Young Guns last year and being more competitive than the majority of teams playing.
what seems to be King Crab issue with the team?
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
91 force would be one in the top 3 if they could put things together. It's crabs, Looneys, Hawks, Fca right now
Force routinely beat FCA as Breakers and beat them again this fall at the Hill school. They tied Hawks this year, beat Rising Sons and tied Express. Did not get to play Looneys and the King Crabby wouldnt allow them to play In Autumn Classic and he has campaigned against them in this area and probably won't invite them to Crabfeast despite them playing Young Guns last year and being more competitive than the majority of teams playing.
what seems to be King Crab issue with the team?
Need to earn it first...Just because you have 91 on your jersey doesnt mean you are automatically in top 5.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
Crabs, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD Force, and Hawks haven't been sorted out yet. Mark my words though all of them will be 1 - 5 in the area.
I would agree. I think this would hold if you included PA as well.
91 force would be one in the top 3 if they could put things together. It's crabs, Looneys, Hawks, Fca right now
Force routinely beat FCA as Breakers and beat them again this fall at the Hill school. They tied Hawks this year, beat Rising Sons and tied Express. Did not get to play Looneys and the King Crabby wouldnt allow them to play In Autumn Classic and he has campaigned against them in this area and probably won't invite them to Crabfeast despite them playing Young Guns last year and being more competitive than the majority of teams playing.
what seems to be King Crab issue with the team?
Need to earn it first...Just because you have 91 on your jersey doesnt mean you are automatically in top 5.
Keeping with your point, he should be looking at the team itself and not concentrating so much on the 91 on the jersey as if he is knowledgeable as he claims to be, he must be well aware that they are the same players and coaches as Breakers 2020AA from last year. Could be a more personal issue with the team/Club.
Crabby no like 91 because it hurts his wallet
Keeping with your point, he should be looking at the team itself and not concentrating so much on the 91 on the jersey as if he is knowledgeable as he claims to be, he must be well aware that they are the same players and coaches as Breakers 2020AA from last year. Could be a more personal issue with the team/Club. [/quote]
No 91MD might have more to do with Aloha tournaments being RMs partner for Autumn Classic. Breakers is owned by aloha and 91MD pilfered most of their players from Breakers. So 91 no so welcome in those events
Keeping with your point, he should be looking at the team itself and not concentrating so much on the 91 on the jersey as if he is knowledgeable as he claims to be, he must be well aware that they are the same players and coaches as Breakers 2020AA from last year. Could be a more personal issue with the team/Club.
No 91MD might have more to do with Aloha tournaments being RMs partner for Autumn Classic. Breakers is owned by aloha and 91MD pilfered most of their players from Breakers. So 91 no so welcome in those events [/quote]
That would be a good thing and then we can expect to be able to play them at Non Aloha tournaments and CrabFeast if your reasoning is the true reason and it is not just Crabby trying to make things difficult for another local Club.
It's crabbybdaddy. He is worried about his income. Let the kids play. It will be decided on the field
Keeping with your point, he should be looking at the team itself and not concentrating so much on the 91 on the jersey as if he is knowledgeable as he claims to be, he must be well aware that they are the same players and coaches as Breakers 2020AA from last year. Could be a more personal issue with the team/Club.
No 91MD might have more to do with Aloha tournaments being RMs partner for Autumn Classic. Breakers is owned by aloha and 91MD pilfered most of their players from Breakers. So 91 no so welcome in those events
That would be a good thing and then we can expect to be able to play them at Non Aloha tournaments and CrabFeast if your reasoning is the true reason and it is not just Crabby trying to make things difficult for another local Club. [/quote]
It's crabbybdaddy. He is worried about his income. Let the kids play. It will be decided on the field
Keeping with your point, he should be looking at the team itself and not concentrating so much on the 91 on the jersey as if he is knowledgeable as he claims to be, he must be well aware that they are the same players and coaches as Breakers 2020AA from last year. Could be a more personal issue with the team/Club.
No 91MD might have more to do with Aloha tournaments being RMs partner for Autumn Classic. Breakers is owned by aloha and 91MD pilfered most of their players from Breakers. So 91 no so welcome in those events
That would be a good thing and then we can expect to be able to play them at Non Aloha tournaments and CrabFeast if your reasoning is the true reason and it is not just Crabby trying to make things difficult for another local Club.
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No, it's true about aloha tournaments owning Breakers and Team 91 Md taking most of Breakers players and Crabs many times partners with Aloha for tournaments. What I would really like to see is all teams not attend any tournament sponsored by Crabs, even go so far as to create another competing tournament for the same dates. I doubt other teams would do this but this is one approach to put a stop to how fat Crab Daddy rigs his tournaments in his favor. It would have to start with other top 10 strong teams boycotting crab daddy events and go elsewhere to play. Probably the only team who would attend is Edge, but can you imagine a tournament with only Crabs and Edge playing. It probably will never happen but it would be nice to see.
How do the Crabs "rig the tournaments" in their favor? Please explain.
My son has played in many of their tournaments, but the draw is no more advantageous than any other club does for their own tournaments
How do the Crabs "rig the tournaments" in their favor? Please explain.
My son has played in many of their tournaments, but the draw is no more advantageous than any other club does for their own tournaments
What Maryland 2020 teams are attending the fl$ in 3D this summer?
What are all the lacrosse club options for those who live in Harford County and don't want to drive an hour for practice?
What are all the lacrosse club options for those who live in Harford County and don't want to drive an hour for practice?
The real answer to that is what level is your son AA,A or B and how old is he. If you think he will be a AA level player in 8th grade and up. You should be asking for the best clubs with in a hour drive. Young travel parents pick a time when their son is young by witch one is the closet drive. Most of the time they are upset with something about the club. I say 20min extra drive for practice to the correct club is worth it long term every time. I think after you answer these questions people can help you better.
Somewhere between A-AA.
7th grade.
Trying to find top notch lacrosse clubs in the area that truly support multi-sport athletes, in that they will honor a player's in-season other sports commitment without adversely affecting the athletes club lacrosse status, playing time, etc.
It's crabbybdaddy. He is worried about his income. Let the kids play. It will be decided on the field
Keeping with your point, he should be looking at the team itself and not concentrating so much on the 91 on the jersey as if he is knowledgeable as he claims to be, he must be well aware that they are the same players and coaches as Breakers 2020AA from last year. Could be a more personal issue with the team/Club.
No 91MD might have more to do with Aloha tournaments being RMs partner for Autumn Classic. Breakers is owned by aloha and 91MD pilfered most of their players from Breakers. So 91 no so welcome in those events
That would be a good thing and then we can expect to be able to play them at Non Aloha tournaments and CrabFeast if your reasoning is the true reason and it is not just Crabby trying to make things difficult for another local Club.
No, it's true about aloha tournaments owning Breakers and Team 91 Md taking most of Breakers players and Crabs many times partners with Aloha for tournaments. What I would really like to see is all teams not attend any tournament sponsored by Crabs, even go so far as to create another competing tournament for the same dates. I doubt other teams would do this but this is one approach to put a stop to how fat Crab Daddy rigs his tournaments in his favor. It would have to start with other top 10 strong teams boycotting crab daddy events and go elsewhere to play. Probably the only team who would attend is Edge, but can you imagine a tournament with only Crabs and Edge playing. It probably will never happen but it would be nice to see.[/quote]
Does anyone have an answer on whether Crabs has invited Team 91 Md to play Crab Feast or whether the talk is true that he is trying to make it difficult in their region for them and not allowing them access to events he is involved with?
Somewhere between A-AA.
7th grade.
Trying to find top notch lacrosse clubs in the area that truly support multi-sport athletes, in that they will honor a player's in-season other sports commitment without adversely affecting the athletes club lacrosse status, playing time, etc.
Who does he play for now?
Somewhere between A-AA.
7th grade.
Trying to find top notch lacrosse clubs in the area that truly support multi-sport athletes, in that they will honor a player's in-season other sports commitment without adversely affecting the athletes club lacrosse status, playing time, etc.
Perhaps not helpful to lob in a suggestion from afar and doubt they need players, but Greene Turtle has a AA 2021 team that seems to do things right and seems to be based on your side of town. I'm a 2021 coach and I think it's absolutely imperative to put in-season sports first and lacrosse behind basketball, football and hockey, etc. On principle, of course, as I think any A or AA player has to be a good enough athlete to play other sports at a high level, but also there is no question it makes them better lacrosse players (particularly basketball).
It's crabbybdaddy. He is worried about his income. Let the kids play. It will be decided on the field
Keeping with your point, he should be looking at the team itself and not concentrating so much on the 91 on the jersey as if he is knowledgeable as he claims to be, he must be well aware that they are the same players and coaches as Breakers 2020AA from last year. Could be a more personal issue with the team/Club.
No 91MD might have more to do with Aloha tournaments being RMs partner for Autumn Classic. Breakers is owned by aloha and 91MD pilfered most of their players from Breakers. So 91 no so welcome in those events
That would be a good thing and then we can expect to be able to play them at Non Aloha tournaments and CrabFeast if your reasoning is the true reason and it is not just Crabby trying to make things difficult for another local Club.
No, it's true about aloha tournaments owning Breakers and Team 91 Md taking most of Breakers players and Crabs many times partners with Aloha for tournaments. What I would really like to see is all teams not attend any tournament sponsored by Crabs, even go so far as to create another competing tournament for the same dates. I doubt other teams would do this but this is one approach to put a stop to how fat Crab Daddy rigs his tournaments in his favor. It would have to start with other top 10 strong teams boycotting crab daddy events and go elsewhere to play. Probably the only team who would attend is Edge, but can you imagine a tournament with only Crabs and Edge playing. It probably will never happen but it would be nice to see.
Does anyone have an answer on whether Crabs has invited Team 91 Md to play Crab Feast or whether the talk is true that he is trying to make it difficult in their region for them and not allowing them access to events he is involved with? [/quote]
Just checked Crabs website, for Crab Feast 2016 Team 91 is listed as attending in all four divisions, 2017 to 2020. I really don't think it is Crabs blocking Team 91, it is Aloha Tournaments, which as stated owns Breakers and Team 91 raided the players. At times Aloha and Crabs jointly sponsor a tournament and this is when Team 91 is not invited, like the Aloha Autumn Tournament last month in Md. And no, I am far from a Crabs fan, just stating what is going on. I don't think crab daddy would block Team 91, it is extra money for him.
How do the Crabs "rig the tournaments" in their favor? Please explain.
My son has played in many of their tournaments, but the draw is no more advantageous than any other club does for their own tournaments
True, a lot of clubs do tis in their own tournament but not to the extent that Crabs does. Just look at the Aloha Autumn Tournament last month, especially the 2020 division and look who Crabs had to play to get to the semi finals. It was very obvious to everyone as soon at they saw the schedule. This is the division crab daddy has his team (even though it is really close to a 2019 team) and he does this all the time. Nothing new but not to the extent that Ryan M takes it.
Somewhere between A-AA.
7th grade.
Trying to find top notch lacrosse clubs in the area that truly support multi-sport athletes, in that they will honor a player's in-season other sports commitment without adversely affecting the athletes club lacrosse status, playing time, etc.
What is his other sport? Most clubs only play fall Sunday league games, and most clubs do unofficial winter box leagues. If it's a spring sport there could be issues
What are all the lacrosse club options for those who live in Harford County and don't want to drive an hour for practice?
Thunder is only option I'm aware of in Harford Co. They do a good job. Not "AA" at most levels but solid A. Mavericks is HS counterpart. For very top team you'll need to drive into balt co where there are a myriad of options.
How do the Crabs "rig the tournaments" in their favor? Please explain.
My son has played in many of their tournaments, but the draw is no more advantageous than any other club does for their own tournaments
True, a lot of clubs do tis in their own tournament but not to the extent that Crabs does. Just look at the Aloha Autumn Tournament last month, especially the 2020 division and look who Crabs had to play to get to the semi finals. It was very obvious to everyone as soon at they saw the schedule. This is the division crab daddy has his team (even though it is really close to a 2019 team) and he does this all the time. Nothing new but not to the extent that Ryan M takes it.
Just looked at the schedule you noted. Aloha does the same thing for the Breakers. Madlax does the same thing for their teams in their tournaments.
Plenty of things to bash the Crabs about, but this isn't one of them.
What are all the lacrosse club options for those who live in Harford County and don't want to drive an hour for practice?
Thunder is only option I'm aware of in Harford Co. They do a good job. Not "AA" at most levels but solid A. Mavericks is HS counterpart. For very top team you'll need to drive into balt co where there are a myriad of options.
ground control
thunder
Somewhere between A-AA.
7th grade.
Trying to find top notch lacrosse clubs in the area that truly support multi-sport athletes, in that they will honor a player's in-season other sports commitment without adversely affecting the athletes club lacrosse status, playing time, etc.
What is his other sport? Most clubs only play fall Sunday league games, and most clubs do unofficial winter box leagues. If it's a spring sport there could be issues
I have a son and nephews who play on various Looney teams. All their coaches honor in season sports and support the kids to participate in other sports. The coaches however, expect 100% commitment during the lax season spring/summer.
How do the Crabs "rig the tournaments" in their favor? Please explain.
My son has played in many of their tournaments, but the draw is no more advantageous than any other club does for their own tournaments
True, a lot of clubs do tis in their own tournament but not to the extent that Crabs does. Just look at the Aloha Autumn Tournament last month, especially the 2020 division and look who Crabs had to play to get to the semi finals. It was very obvious to everyone as soon at they saw the schedule. This is the division crab daddy has his team (even though it is really close to a 2019 team) and he does this all the time. Nothing new but not to the extent that Ryan M takes it.
Just looked at the schedule you noted. Aloha does the same thing for the Breakers. Madlax does the same thing for their teams in their tournaments.
Plenty of things to bash the Crabs about, but this isn't one of them.
Sure it is, but not bashing, just stating what is obvious. Crabs 2020 won 9-0, 15-0 and 14-0 against Md Roughriders, AR Pittsburg and Harvest Lax. This is what Ryan M does all the time, he wants very little competition in his tournaments a clear shot to the finals.
How do the Crabs "rig the tournaments" in their favor? Please explain.
My son has played in many of their tournaments, but the draw is no more advantageous than any other club does for their own tournaments
True, a lot of clubs do tis in their own tournament but not to the extent that Crabs does. Just look at the Aloha Autumn Tournament last month, especially the 2020 division and look who Crabs had to play to get to the semi finals. It was very obvious to everyone as soon at they saw the schedule. This is the division crab daddy has his team (even though it is really close to a 2019 team) and he does this all the time. Nothing new but not to the extent that Ryan M takes it.
Just looked at the schedule you noted. Aloha does the same thing for the Breakers. Madlax does the same thing for their teams in their tournaments.
Plenty of things to bash the Crabs about, but this isn't one of them.
Sure it is, but not bashing, just stating what is obvious. Crabs 2020 won 9-0, 15-0 and 14-0 against Md Roughriders, AR Pittsburg and Harvest Lax. This is what Ryan M does all the time, he wants very little competition in his tournaments a clear shot to the finals.
what was the schedule like for the other team they faced in the finals?:
How do the Crabs "rig the tournaments" in their favor? Please explain.
My son has played in many of their tournaments, but the draw is no more advantageous than any other club does for their own tournaments
True, a lot of clubs do tis in their own tournament but not to the extent that Crabs does. Just look at the Aloha Autumn Tournament last month, especially the 2020 division and look who Crabs had to play to get to the semi finals. It was very obvious to everyone as soon at they saw the schedule. This is the division crab daddy has his team (even though it is really close to a 2019 team) and he does this all the time. Nothing new but not to the extent that Ryan M takes it.
Just looked at the schedule you noted. Aloha does the same thing for the Breakers. Madlax does the same thing for their teams in their tournaments.
Plenty of things to bash the Crabs about, but this isn't one of them.
Sure it is, but not bashing, just stating what is obvious. Crabs 2020 won 9-0, 15-0 and 14-0 against Md Roughriders, AR Pittsburg and Harvest Lax. This is what Ryan M does all the time, he wants very little competition in his tournaments a clear shot to the finals.
what was the schedule like for the other team they faced in the finals?:
Just Google "aloha autumn classic" and when you get to website click on schedules and Sunday Nov 14, 2015. That lists the schedules and scores for 2020 thru 2023 divisions.
How do the Crabs "rig the tournaments" in their favor? Please explain.
My son has played in many of their tournaments, but the draw is no more advantageous than any other club does for their own tournaments
True, a lot of clubs do tis in their own tournament but not to the extent that Crabs does. Just look at the Aloha Autumn Tournament last month, especially the 2020 division and look who Crabs had to play to get to the semi finals. It was very obvious to everyone as soon at they saw the schedule. This is the division crab daddy has his team (even though it is really close to a 2019 team) and he does this all the time. Nothing new but not to the extent that Ryan M takes it.
Just looked at the schedule you noted. Aloha does the same thing for the Breakers. Madlax does the same thing for their teams in their tournaments.
Plenty of things to bash the Crabs about, but this isn't one of them.
Sure it is, but not bashing, just stating what is obvious. Crabs 2020 won 9-0, 15-0 and 14-0 against Md Roughriders, AR Pittsburg and Harvest Lax. This is what Ryan M does all the time, he wants very little competition in his tournaments a clear shot to the finals.
did they set Looney's up as well? They didn't have a close game until the final.
it is Aloha Tournaments, which as stated owns Breakers and Team 91 raided the players. At times Aloha and Crabs jointly sponsor a tournament and this is when Team 91 is not invited, like the Aloha Autumn Tournament last month in Md. And no, I am far from a Crabs fan, just stating what is going on. I don't think crab daddy would block Team 91, it is extra money for him.[/quote]
Just checked the website and the 91 team you mention is a NY 91 team -not Team 91 MD which is who we heard he has blocked from Crabfeast despite the fact that the team attended last years Young Guns as Breakers . Sounds like he is preventing the other AA teams, including ours, from having an opportunity to play another top level team due to a personal issue.
How do the Crabs "rig the tournaments" in their favor? Please explain.
My son has played in many of their tournaments, but the draw is no more advantageous than any other club does for their own tournaments
True, a lot of clubs do tis in their own tournament but not to the extent that Crabs does. Just look at the Aloha Autumn Tournament last month, especially the 2020 division and look who Crabs had to play to get to the semi finals. It was very obvious to everyone as soon at they saw the schedule. This is the division crab daddy has his team (even though it is really close to a 2019 team) and he does this all the time. Nothing new but not to the extent that Ryan M takes it.
Just looked at the schedule you noted. Aloha does the same thing for the Breakers. Madlax does the same thing for their teams in their tournaments.
Plenty of things to bash the Crabs about, but this isn't one of them.
Sure it is, but not bashing, just stating what is obvious. Crabs 2020 won 9-0, 15-0 and 14-0 against Md Roughriders, AR Pittsburg and Harvest Lax. This is what Ryan M does all the time, he wants very little competition in his tournaments a clear shot to the finals.
did they set Looney's up as well? They didn't have a close game until the final.
I don't think so, Looney's had easy games against two teams, MDX and LA Heat. LA Heat is not, at least at this point, an AA team and were outclassed in all games but they tried. The third team, Madlax Capital was suppose to be a fairly strong team but if it was that team didn't show up that day. If you notice, Crabs and Ryan M clearly avoided Edge and the only time they would have seen Edge is if Edge was successful in the semis, which they weren't. I know all teams try to make a fairly easy path in their own tournaments, but not at the level that Ryan M and his 2020 team does.
It's crabbybdaddy. He is worried about his income. Let the kids play. It will be decided on the field
Keeping with your point, he should be looking at the team itself and not concentrating so much on the 91 on the jersey as if he is knowledgeable as he claims to be, he must be well aware that they are the same players and coaches as Breakers 2020AA from last year. Could be a more personal issue with the team/Club.
No 91MD might have more to do with Aloha tournaments being RMs partner for Autumn Classic. Breakers is owned by aloha and 91MD pilfered most of their players from Breakers. So 91 no so welcome in those events
That would be a good thing and then we can expect to be able to play them at Non Aloha tournaments and CrabFeast if your reasoning is the true reason and it is not just Crabby trying to make things difficult for another local Club.
No, it's true about aloha tournaments owning Breakers and Team 91 Md taking most of Breakers players and Crabs many times partners with Aloha for tournaments. What I would really like to see is all teams not attend any tournament sponsored by Crabs, even go so far as to create another competing tournament for the same dates. I doubt other teams would do this but this is one approach to put a stop to how fat Crab Daddy rigs his tournaments in his favor. It would have to start with other top 10 strong teams boycotting crab daddy events and go elsewhere to play. Probably the only team who would attend is Edge, but can you imagine a tournament with only Crabs and Edge playing. It probably will never happen but it would be nice to see.
Does anyone have an answer on whether Crabs has invited Team 91 Md to play Crab Feast or whether the talk is true that he is trying to make it difficult in their region for them and not allowing them access to events he is involved with? [/quote]
I think they have. Most of the top teams will be there
left out:) why invite another team that competes for the same local dollar. Besides 91 force is a tad bit better than madlax.
left out:) why invite another team that competes for the same local dollar. Besides 91 force is a tad bit better than madlax.
That statement makes no sense-keeping with that logic, no local teams would be invited and supports that he has an issue with just one team. And if not mistaken, it is the same team informally ranked here as top 10 and tied Crabs 2020 as Breakers losing in OT last year at Beach even after Crabs brought in their 2019s. Just be nice to have all the top 2020 teams in one location for once and not have tournaments and kids influenced by one man.
Another new topic. Who has ever heard this quote on a sideline between parents. " Man this is a great group of players if we can keep them playing together they will never get beat" I think this statement causes most of the issues us parents have with this whole travel elite lacrosse thing. If this is said on the sideline of a B Level team the Parents of kids who are A or AA level feel bad and stuck to stay playing with this team or they will upset most likely local fellow parents. If this is said on a AA team sideline it implies please do not bring any other really good kids to play on this team or we will be upset with you for breaking up this great group. Well I just wanted to hear others thoughts about this Quote I am sure everyone has heard many times
Another new topic. Who has ever heard this quote on a sideline between parents. " Man this is a great group of players if we can keep them playing together they will never get beat" I think this statement causes most of the issues us parents have with this whole travel elite lacrosse thing. If this is said on the sideline of a B Level team the Parents of kids who are A or AA level feel bad and stuck to stay playing with this team or they will upset most likely local fellow parents. If this is said on a AA team sideline it implies please do not bring any other really good kids to play on this team or we will be upset with you for breaking up this great group. Well I just wanted to hear others thoughts about this Quote I am sure everyone has heard many times
Did you ever learn about punctuation in school?
Another new topic. Who has ever heard this quote on a sideline between parents. " Man this is a great group of players if we can keep them playing together they will never get beat" I think this statement causes most of the issues us parents have with this whole travel elite lacrosse thing. If this is said on the sideline of a B Level team the Parents of kids who are A or AA level feel bad and stuck to stay playing with this team or they will upset most likely local fellow parents. If this is said on a AA team sideline it implies please do not bring any other really good kids to play on this team or we will be upset with you for breaking up this great group. Well I just wanted to hear others thoughts about this Quote I am sure everyone has heard many times
Did you ever learn about punctuation in school?
No as you can see. What does this have to do with the question. When you are this upset about my punctuation it shows why other people hate Lacrosse people. I am someone who started with a tool in my hands and dirt on my shoes. I worked my way up to making enough money so my son can compete and play lacrosse with all of your Ivy league kids.
How do the Crabs "rig the tournaments" in their favor? Please explain.
My son has played in many of their tournaments, but the draw is no more advantageous than any other club does for their own tournaments
True, a lot of clubs do tis in their own tournament but not to the extent that Crabs does. Just look at the Aloha Autumn Tournament last month, especially the 2020 division and look who Crabs had to play to get to the semi finals. It was very obvious to everyone as soon at they saw the schedule. This is the division crab daddy has his team (even though it is really close to a 2019 team) and he does this all the time. Nothing new but not to the extent that Ryan M takes it.
Just looked at the schedule you noted. Aloha does the same thing for the Breakers. Madlax does the same thing for their teams in their tournaments.
Plenty of things to bash the Crabs about, but this isn't one of them.
Sure it is, but not bashing, just stating what is obvious. Crabs 2020 won 9-0, 15-0 and 14-0 against Md Roughriders, AR Pittsburg and Harvest Lax. This is what Ryan M does all the time, he wants very little competition in his tournaments a clear shot to the finals.
did they set Looney's up as well? They didn't have a close game until the final.
I don't think so, Looney's had easy games against two teams, MDX and LA Heat. LA Heat is not, at least at this point, an AA team and were outclassed in all games but they tried. The third team, Madlax Capital was suppose to be a fairly strong team but if it was that team didn't show up that day. If you notice, Crabs and Ryan M clearly avoided Edge and the only time they would have seen Edge is if Edge was successful in the semis, which they weren't. I know all teams try to make a fairly easy path in their own tournaments, but not at the level that Ryan M and his 2020 team does.
Looneys had easy games as well - all of the divisions were unbalanced unfortunately. One division should have been Crabs, Looneys, Legacy, and Leading Edge or Edge. As it was, Red was a cake walk for Looneys, Blue was no challenge for Crabs, Yellow was a joke for Edge - at least in Green Leading Edge and Legacy were very comparable in talent. LA Heat should have saved their airfare for sure - it was clear that there were two classes of teams there that day, probably should have been an AA and an A grouping.
Another new topic. Who has ever heard this quote on a sideline between parents. " Man this is a great group of players if we can keep them playing together they will never get beat" I think this statement causes most of the issues us parents have with this whole travel elite lacrosse thing. If this is said on the sideline of a B Level team the Parents of kids who are A or AA level feel bad and stuck to stay playing with this team or they will upset most likely local fellow parents. If this is said on a AA team sideline it implies please do not bring any other really good kids to play on this team or we will be upset with you for breaking up this great group. Well I just wanted to hear others thoughts about this Quote I am sure everyone has heard many times
Did you ever learn about punctuation in school?
No as you can see. What does this have to do with the question. When you are this upset about my punctuation it shows why other people hate Lacrosse people. I am someone who started with a tool in my hands and dirt on my shoes. I worked my way up to making enough money so my son can compete and play lacrosse with all of your Ivy league kids.
Join the club with your blue collar roots, however, you should learn to write.
it is Aloha Tournaments, which as stated owns Breakers and Team 91 raided the players. At times Aloha and Crabs jointly sponsor a tournament and this is when Team 91 is not invited, like the Aloha Autumn Tournament last month in Md. And no, I am far from a Crabs fan, just stating what is going on. I don't think crab daddy would block Team 91, it is extra money for him.
Just checked the website and the 91 team you mention is a NY 91 team -not Team 91 MD which is who we heard he has blocked from Crabfeast despite the fact that the team attended last years Young Guns as Breakers . Sounds like he is preventing the other AA teams, including ours, from having an opportunity to play another top level team due to a personal issue. [/quote]
You mentioned Team 91 Md that you believe Crab/Ryan M is blocking from Crabfeast 2016 and your team is also being blocked. What is the name of your team that Ryan M is blocking? Is it another Md AA team?
Another new topic. Who has ever heard this quote on a sideline between parents. " Man this is a great group of players if we can keep them playing together they will never get beat" I think this statement causes most of the issues us parents have with this whole travel elite lacrosse thing. If this is said on the sideline of a B Level team the Parents of kids who are A or AA level feel bad and stuck to stay playing with this team or they will upset most likely local fellow parents. If this is said on a AA team sideline it implies please do not bring any other really good kids to play on this team or we will be upset with you for breaking up this great group. Well I just wanted to hear others thoughts about this Quote I am sure everyone has heard many times
Did you ever learn about punctuation in school?
No as you can see. What does this have to do with the question. When you are this upset about my punctuation it shows why other people hate Lacrosse people. I am someone who started with a tool in my hands and dirt on my shoes. I worked my way up to making enough money so my son can compete and play lacrosse with all of your Ivy league kids.
Join the club with your blue collar roots, however, you should learn to write.
Was what I wrote able to be read and understood. If not please tell me what part you did not get. I am way to old to go back to school. I want to BS about lacrosse because I like the sport and care about what to do best for my son and his Lacrosse path. So you cutting your moms grass is not blue collar roots. Get over yourself and your high dollar education. Once again you are why working people hate the top 1%.
Reading your posts is very difficult due to the lack of punctuation, poor grammar, awful diction, etc. It has nothing to do with a high brow education. It's about being able to converse in a manner that people can understand.
Seriously - there are 5th graders who can compose a sentence better than you.
I usually hate the grammar police but please get help. That was awful. Read a book but please do not read the Baltimore Sun as that will make you regress.
The guy's lack of education and simplistic view of life is probably the best explanation for his love of Madlax and addiction to defending them every day on the Internet.
Another new topic. Who has ever heard this quote on a sideline between parents. " Man this is a great group of players if we can keep them playing together they will never get beat" I think this statement causes most of the issues us parents have with this whole travel elite lacrosse thing. If this is said on the sideline of a B Level team the Parents of kids who are A or AA level feel bad and stuck to stay playing with this team or they will upset most likely local fellow parents. If this is said on a AA team sideline it implies please do not bring any other really good kids to play on this team or we will be upset with you for breaking up this great group. Well I just wanted to hear others thoughts about this Quote I am sure everyone has heard many times
Did you ever learn about punctuation in school?
No as you can see. What does this have to do with the question. When you are this upset about my punctuation it shows why other people hate Lacrosse people. I am someone who started with a tool in my hands and dirt on my shoes. I worked my way up to making enough money so my son can compete and play lacrosse with all of your Ivy league kids.
Join the club with your blue collar roots, however, you should learn to write.
Was what I wrote able to be read and understood. If not please tell me what part you did not get. I am way to old to go back to school. I want to BS about lacrosse because I like the sport and care about what to do best for my son and his Lacrosse path. So you cutting your moms grass is not blue collar roots. Get over yourself and your high dollar education. Once again you are why working people hate the top 1%.
it is good grammar for your Dundalk / Essex upbringing.
Another new topic. Who has ever heard this quote on a sideline between parents. " Man this is a great group of players if we can keep them playing together they will never get beat" I think this statement causes most of the issues us parents have with this whole travel elite lacrosse thing. If this is said on the sideline of a B Level team the Parents of kids who are A or AA level feel bad and stuck to stay playing with this team or they will upset most likely local fellow parents. If this is said on a AA team sideline it implies please do not bring any other really good kids to play on this team or we will be upset with you for breaking up this great group. Well I just wanted to hear others thoughts about this Quote I am sure everyone has heard many times
Did you ever learn about punctuation in school?
No as you can see. What does this have to do with the question. When you are this upset about my punctuation it shows why other people hate Lacrosse people. I am someone who started with a tool in my hands and dirt on my shoes. I worked my way up to making enough money so my son can compete and play lacrosse with all of your Ivy league kids.
Join the club with your blue collar roots, however, you should learn to write.
Was what I wrote able to be read and understood. If not please tell me what part you did not get. I am way to old to go back to school. I want to BS about lacrosse because I like the sport and care about what to do best for my son and his Lacrosse path. So you cutting your moms grass is not blue collar roots. Get over yourself and your high dollar education. Once again you are why working people hate the top 1%.
it is good grammar for your Dundalk / Essex upbringing.
you guys are douches
to answer the question: i don't think parents desire to keep a good group of kids together is the the root of all evil. my experience is that it becomes really difficult over time to keep the same kids together. some kids get better, others plateau. Some parents care more about winning than others. Some coaches will seek out the best players and bounce a kid that's been on the team. Others have more loyalty and the parents the care deeply about winning then encourage the kid to go elsewhere. end of the day hopefully the kids are having fun and growing as athletes
to answer the question: i don't think parents desire to keep a good group of kids together is the the root of all evil. my experience is that it becomes really difficult over time to keep the same kids together. some kids get better, others plateau. Some parents care more about winning than others. Some coaches will seek out the best players and bounce a kid that's been on the team. Others have more loyalty and the parents the care deeply about winning then encourage the kid to go elsewhere. end of the day hopefully the kids are having fun and growing as athletes [/quote]
I agree the desire to keep a team together is 99% of the time coming from a good place. I just wanted to highlight the issues that come from this for all the different parents. I think us parents like most people do a bad job of putting yourself in others shoes. I try to be happy for other kids success and I try to push other parents to do whats best for their son even if its going to hurt my son or his team. Ok let me go back and check my grammar and spelling so I do not offend anyone with my lack of education.
to answer the question: i don't think parents desire to keep a good group of kids together is the the root of all evil. my experience is that it becomes really difficult over time to keep the same kids together. some kids get better, others plateau. Some parents care more about winning than others. Some coaches will seek out the best players and bounce a kid that's been on the team. Others have more loyalty and the parents the care deeply about winning then encourage the kid to go elsewhere. end of the day hopefully the kids are having fun and growing as athletes
I agree the desire to keep a team together is 99% of the time coming from a good place. I just wanted to highlight the issues that come from this for all the different parents. I think us parents like most people do a bad job of putting yourself in others shoes. I try to be happy for other kids success and I try to push other parents to do whats best for their son even if its going to hurt my son or his team. Ok let me go back and check my grammar and spelling so I do not offend anyone with my lack of education. [/quote]
Don't let the grammar police get under your skin. First, it's an online forum. Second, by my read, four out of five of your grammar critics used the wrong grammar or punctuation.
To your question, I'm a travel coach of a team with AA, A and B players. As long as the kids are having fun, improving during practice, being challenged in games and becoming close friends - which they are - I think the virtues of keeping the team together outweigh the benefits of jumping to a AA team. [I would ask the grammar police to please note that I intentionally did not use the serial comma and prefer spaces before and after my dashes when used for a parenthetical phrase (despite the fact the rule is no spaces) and that "an" would be incorrect before "AA". Please also note how I flaunt American convention on putting the period within the quotation marks when I am referring to a specific word in this manner.]
My son is a AA player. It would be fun for him to play in an offense of a AA team, but we are not going to stress about making that happen. If your son's goal is to get a DI scholarship, I would think moving to a AA team would make sense, as would being held back a year.
I assume any early-maturing 6'2" stud with 4.5 speed is going to be fine either way.
It's sad that so many top programs fill their recruiting classes before the players have even played their sophomore season of lacrosse. Most don't even include juniors in their prospect days. If you are really good player but a late maturer and don't play the reclass, recruiting club and showcase game, you are on the outside looking in.
You have a lot of issues.
to answer the question: i don't think parents desire to keep a good group of kids together is the the root of all evil. my experience is that it becomes really difficult over time to keep the same kids together. some kids get better, others plateau. Some parents care more about winning than others. Some coaches will seek out the best players and bounce a kid that's been on the team. Others have more loyalty and the parents the care deeply about winning then encourage the kid to go elsewhere. end of the day hopefully the kids are having fun and growing as athletes
I agree the desire to keep a team together is 99% of the time coming from a good place. I just wanted to highlight the issues that come from this for all the different parents. I think us parents like most people do a bad job of putting yourself in others shoes. I try to be happy for other kids success and I try to push other parents to do whats best for their son even if its going to hurt my son or his team. Ok let me go back and check my grammar and spelling so I do not offend anyone with my lack of education.
Don't let the grammar police get under your skin. First, it's an online forum. Second, by my read, four out of five of your grammar critics used the wrong grammar or punctuation.
To your question, I'm a travel coach of a team with AA, A and B players. As long as the kids are having fun, improving during practice, being challenged in games and becoming close friends - which they are - I think the virtues of keeping the team together outweigh the benefits of jumping to a AA team. [I would ask the grammar police to please note that I intentionally did not use the serial comma and prefer spaces before and after my dashes when used for a parenthetical phrase (despite the fact the rule is no spaces) and that "an" would be incorrect before "AA". Please also note how I flaunt American convention on putting the period within the quotation marks when I am referring to a specific word in this manner.]
My son is a AA player. It would be fun for him to play in an offense of a AA team, but we are not going to stress about making that happen. If your son's goal is to get a DI scholarship, I would think moving to a AA team would make sense, as would being held back a year.
I assume any early-maturing 6'2" stud with 4.5 speed is going to be fine either way.
It's sad that so many top programs fill their recruiting classes before the players have even played their sophomore season of lacrosse. Most don't even include juniors in their prospect days. If you are really good player but a late maturer and don't play the reclass, recruiting club and showcase game, you are on the outside looking in. [/quote]
Thanks for fighting the grammar police with me I enjoyed that. I agree with lots of what you said. But I feel like the money and time commitment is close to the same for a B team as it is a AA team. So my thought would be it is better for all players if the AA players played for AA teams. Because your AA son is having fun he in theory is taking time from a B or A player on the field playing the correct skill level. In a NVYLL style system no one would want a top A player playing on a C team. This is REC kinda of but still has try outs for a reason.
Nobody is pummeling him for omitting a comma. His rambling posts are extremely difficult to read because they lack punctuation and all grammar rules are tossed aside.
Nobody is pummeling him for omitting a comma. His rambling posts are extremely difficult to read because they lack punctuation and all grammar rules are tossed aside.
I am sorry my lack of education and writing skills upset you. I would like you to grade and fix my post so I can learn from my mistakes.
I would love for you to stop posting the same slobbering posts about Madlax that you do 3-4x a day.
I would love for you to stop posting the same slobbering posts about Madlax that you do 3-4x a day.
Done
US Lacrosse endorsed recent actions by the men’s and women’s coaches associations and urged the NCAA to adopt legislative proposals that restrict the recruiting calendar, including all communication between a coach and prospect, to after Sept.1of a prospect’s junior year of high school. The Intercollegiate Men’s Lacrosse Coaches Association voted Friday to support proposals forwarded to the NCAA three months earlier by the Intercollegiate Women’s Lacrosse Coaches Association that ban college coaches from any contact with prospects before that time. The IWLCA proposals are being considered by the NCAA’s student-athlete experience committee.
US Lacrosse endorsed recent actions by the men’s and women’s coaches associations and urged the NCAA to adopt legislative proposals that restrict the recruiting calendar, including all communication between a coach and prospect, to after Sept.1of a prospect’s junior year of high school. The Intercollegiate Men’s Lacrosse Coaches Association voted Friday to support proposals forwarded to the NCAA three months earlier by the Intercollegiate Women’s Lacrosse Coaches Association that ban college coaches from any contact with prospects before that time. The IWLCA proposals are being considered by the NCAA’s student-athlete experience committee.
A similar proposal was presented to the NCAA a few years ago and the NCAA took no action. I am hopeful that this time they step up and make this proposal the official guideline for recruiting. With both the college men's and women's coaches and US Lacrosse endorsing this proposal hopefully the NCAA will realize the importance of eliminating early recruiting and if they do adopt this that the NCAA put some "teeth" for violations of early recruiting. Without any strong penalties for violations, early recruiting will continue. Many 13 and 14 year olds are looking at where they want to go to high school let alone putting pressure on them to decide where they want to go to college. From what I have been told early recruiting is running rampant in football and basketball so this is why I am skeptical that they will endorse this proposal for lacrosse but I am hoping it will be adopted. At this point I sometimes feel the NCAA doesn't really care about this but if the "powers to be" in lacrosse make them care it will be adopted.
US Lacrosse endorsed recent actions by the men’s and women’s coaches associations and urged the NCAA to adopt legislative proposals that restrict the recruiting calendar, including all communication between a coach and prospect, to after Sept.1of a prospect’s junior year of high school. The Intercollegiate Men’s Lacrosse Coaches Association voted Friday to support proposals forwarded to the NCAA three months earlier by the Intercollegiate Women’s Lacrosse Coaches Association that ban college coaches from any contact with prospects before that time. The IWLCA proposals are being considered by the NCAA’s student-athlete experience committee.
A similar proposal was presented to the NCAA a few years ago and the NCAA took no action. I am hopeful that this time they step up and make this proposal the official guideline for recruiting. With both the college men's and women's coaches and US Lacrosse endorsing this proposal hopefully the NCAA will realize the importance of eliminating early recruiting and if they do adopt this that the NCAA put some "teeth" for violations of early recruiting. Without any strong penalties for violations, early recruiting will continue. Many 13 and 14 year olds are looking at where they want to go to high school let alone putting pressure on them to decide where they want to go to college. From what I have been told early recruiting is running rampant in football and basketball so this is why I am skeptical that they will endorse this proposal for lacrosse but I am hoping it will be adopted. At this point I sometimes feel the NCAA doesn't really care about this but if the "powers to be" in lacrosse make them care it will be adopted.
I do not think early recruiting will ever be a issue with Football and Basketball. If you look at the who signed/ verbal ed lists for those two sports I see no Sophomore football players and very few Basketball players. Lacrosse is the leaders in this problem Maryland just hit 13 for 2019 I would call that classed closed for them?
It's early in the Box season, but the best team in the Goals Baltimore league are looking to be:
5th/6th - Rough Riders 2022
7th/8th - Team 91 or Hawks 2020 - This league is really tough.
You are a tool. Did you forget about Fca and Looneys. 4 teams then there's the rest.
[quote=Anonymous]You are a tool. Did you forget about Fca and Looneys. 4 teams then there's the rest.
Box is a joke and by no means an indicator of success at the field game. The majority of these teams athletes are involved in other sports during winter, as they should be. The best 2020 team isn't even playing. While it can sharpen those with marginal skills in certain ways, its not a recipe or substitute for the real thing. Who cares who wins the goals box league? The same people who care about the NFL exhibition season. The parallels between the 2 are striking.
[quote=Anonymous]You are a tool. Did you forget about Fca and Looneys. 4 teams then there's the rest.
Box is a joke and by no means an indicator of success at the field game. The majority of these teams athletes are involved in other sports during winter, as they should be. The best 2020 team isn't even playing. While it can sharpen those with marginal skills in certain ways, its not a recipe or substitute for the real thing. Who cares who wins the goals box league? The same people who care about the NFL exhibition season. The parallels between the 2 are striking.
I agree that box is for fun and most of these players are involved in other winter sports. Who are you referring to as the best team is not even playing in this box league? If you are referring to Crabs you do not know what you are talking about. Crabs 2020 is at least a 2019 team and at times close to a 2018 team with so many holdbacks. That is the Ryan M way of doing things.
You must be a Team 91 parent. Or should we call them Team 15, which is more fitting since the majority of the them should be in 9th grade. Parents have no class and no surprise either do their kids. Just listen to them mouth off at the games.
You must be a Team 91 parent. Or should we call them Team 15, which is more fitting since the majority of the them should be in 9th grade. Parents have no class and no surprise either do their kids. Just listen to them mouth off at the games.
Completely wrong, not a 91 parent. Just want to know who the one poster feels the best 2020 team is that is not playing. The only two I can think of who feel their team is the best is Crabs or Madlax. So since I said something about Crabs you must be a Crabs parent, given you shot back that I must be a 91 parent. Crab parents are just, if not more, obnoxious. Crabs won't play in this league, it would expose to everyone how old their 2020 players are and as you know they just keep saying we have no holdbacks when in fact their 2020 team is loaded with them, some will be close to 16 by the spring. So who is it that is not playing, crab daddy's 2020's.
Crabs 2020 has 4-5 holdbacks. Nobody is close to be a 2018 kid. Keep hating just because they are better.
Crabs 2020 has 4-5 holdbacks. Nobody is close to be a 2018 kid. Keep hating just because they are better.
Not hating anyone or anything, just stating what seems to be known, yet Crabs will never release the birth dates of its players on 2020. There are more than 4-5 holdbacks on 2020 and 1 or 2 will be close to 16 by next spring/summer. No one in lacrosse feels or thinks they are better. With Crabs having many holdbacks on their 2020 team and play mostly age appropriate 2020 teams and beat them, that doesn't mean crap, its older players beating younger players. It is Ryan M way of doing things so he can look like a great lax coach, which he isn't. Look at what happened to Crabs 2020 this past summer in Vail, when they had to play age appropriate kids and couldn't bring their holdbacks, they got beaten badly. That shows how weak Crabs 2020 is without their holdbacks. So just keep thinking they are better if that makes you happy.
[quote=Anonymous]You are a tool. Did you forget about Fca and Looneys. 4 teams then there's the rest.
Box is a joke and by no means an indicator of success at the field game. The majority of these teams athletes are involved in other sports during winter, as they should be. The best 2020 team isn't even playing. While it can sharpen those with marginal skills in certain ways, its not a recipe or substitute for the real thing. Who cares who wins the goals box league? The same people who care about the NFL exhibition season. The parallels between the 2 are striking.
Box is a joke? Canada has won the last 3 international championships. And Canadian high school Hill School recently defeated the u19 Mens National team.
The league is fun for the boys and helps develop skills which absolutely benefit them outside
Crabs 2020 has 4-5 holdbacks. Nobody is close to be a 2018 kid. Keep hating just because they are better.
Not hating anyone or anything, just stating what seems to be known, yet Crabs will never release the birth dates of its players on 2020. There are more than 4-5 holdbacks on 2020 and 1 or 2 will be close to 16 by next spring/summer. No one in lacrosse feels or thinks they are better. With Crabs having many holdbacks on their 2020 team and play mostly age appropriate 2020 teams and beat them, that doesn't mean crap, its older players beating younger players. It is Ryan M way of doing things so he can look like a great lax coach, which he isn't. Look at what happened to Crabs 2020 this past summer in Vail, when they had to play age appropriate kids and couldn't bring their holdbacks, they got beaten badly. That shows how weak Crabs 2020 is without their holdbacks. So just keep thinking they are better if that makes you happy.
1. Why the hate for Crabs? Teams like Madlax and Duke's have many more holdbacks
2. Like it or not, the world is grade based, so the birthdays don't matter.
Crabs 2020 has 4-5 holdbacks. Nobody is close to be a 2018 kid. Keep hating just because they are better.
Not hating anyone or anything, just stating what seems to be known, yet Crabs will never release the birth dates of its players on 2020. There are more than 4-5 holdbacks on 2020 and 1 or 2 will be close to 16 by next spring/summer. No one in lacrosse feels or thinks they are better. With Crabs having many holdbacks on their 2020 team and play mostly age appropriate 2020 teams and beat them, that doesn't mean crap, its older players beating younger players. It is Ryan M way of doing things so he can look like a great lax coach, which he isn't. Look at what happened to Crabs 2020 this past summer in Vail, when they had to play age appropriate kids and couldn't bring their holdbacks, they got beaten badly. That shows how weak Crabs 2020 is without their holdbacks. So just keep thinking they are better if that makes you happy.
1. Why the hate for Crabs? Teams like Madlax and Duke's have many more holdbacks
2. Like it or not, the world is grade based, so the birthdays don't matter.
Again, no hate for Crabs, just stating that they have the most holdbacks, no other team comes close. Realize the present rules are grade based, and no other team abuses this than Ryan M and Crabs, especially 2020. He is the leader in holdbacks, like it or not and you can either deny it or admit it and live with it. Birthdays would simply show how many holdbacks Crabs 2020 really has. When other teams loose to Crabs they do not consider it a loss, it is simply older kids playing against younger kids. If Crabs had no holdbacks they would not be a strong team. Don't hate them, I don't hate kids, just find it disgusting how Ryan M abuses the system like no other team does. Then he brags how great his team is and how he is a great coach.
In indoor lacross action...
Hawks 2020 Green 10, Looneys Orange 8.
Any college coaches there? Who cares meat. It's indoor
Crabs 2020 has 4-5 holdbacks. Nobody is close to be a 2018 kid. Keep hating just because they are better.
. They have 4-5 that repeated a grade and a bunch more who did pre 1st making the majority of the team older that their peers.
Any college coaches there? Who cares meat. It's indoor
Thanks Looney's dad, no FloGo tonight I guess.
Crabs 2020 has 4-5 holdbacks. Nobody is close to be a 2018 kid. Keep hating just because they are better.
Do the math -at least two, if not three, Crabs did a pre 1st and then held back in middle school which age wise puts them in 2018 if they were to follow public school guidelines. Add them to all the others who would not meet age guidelines and the team is by far the oldest in the 2020 age group except maybe Edge who openly recruits a full year older for each age group.
In indoor lacross action...
Hawks 2020 Green 10, Looneys Orange 8.
Gee, thanks for the update Hawks dad.
Its indoor box for fun, you are acting like this is something others except
for you care about. You need something
more to do with your time
Any college coaches there? Who cares meat. It's indoor
Thanks Looney's dad, no FloGo tonight I guess.
Hey Hawks dad, it's FOGO not Flogo. Do you
know what it stands for?
I saw the Hawks/Loonies game.
1) the FOGO kid was there and won repeatedly - he is an ace
2) it may be for fun but you might want to tell the Loonies parents that because their behavior is appalling - incessant whining and a bunch of sore losers. Get over it - you lost
Always happens with them. I was there too, whine soo much.
I saw the Hawks/Loonies game.
1) the FOGO kid was there and won repeatedly - he is an ace
2) it may be for fun but you might want to tell the Loonies parents that because their behavior is appalling - incessant whining and a bunch of sore losers. Get over it - you lost
Hawks dad, be glad you won and let it go at that. Yes, it is box and for fun and nobody really cares who won/lost in this box league, the real test is in the spring/summer. I have been to many lax games and sat with parents of many different teams and you know what, they all act the same, especially if their team is behind or lost. No reason to pick on Looney's parents. No, I am not connected to Looney's in any way, just saying fans are fans and their behavior is similar. None of them act like they are watching tennis at Wimbledon.
LOL. When your kids are in HS, juniors or seniors they will not remember this game. The parents are making themselves look like lunatics. This is true for many lacrosse parents not just Looneys or Hawks. These parents should realize the parents actions will be remembered long after the score of these games are forgotten. Your reputation can take a life time to build up but only one action can ruin it for many years to come.
Any college coaches there? Who cares meat. It's indoor
Its a dead period sir. They could not be there if they wanted to be.
Nobody really cares? Sure. I'm not a Hawks dad - I was there for the FCA/91 game. Sorry bud - the Loonies parents were like whiney little girls. Didn't have all your players, must be tired because of the holidays, etc. Not every teams parents behave the same - so - don't give me that nonsense. How about they lost because the other team played better. Maybe next time the Loonies will win. Who knows - but enough with excuses.
Nobody really cares? Sure. I'm not a Hawks dad - I was there for the FCA/91 game. Sorry bud - the Loonies parents were like whiney little girls. Didn't have all your players, must be tired because of the holidays, etc. Not every teams parents behave the same - so - don't give me that nonsense. How about they lost because the other team played better. Maybe next time the Loonies will win. Who knows - but enough with excuses.
OMG, if you are a FCA parent, then you have no reason to say anything about another teams parents, FCA parents are near the top for being whiney little girls. Team 91 parents are just plain outright rude. Been around this game a long time and have seen many teams and how the parents act. It is a shame, let the kids play and win or loose, be respectful of others and control your actions. What many don't understand, a college coach recruiting will quickly back of a prospect if they see the parent(s) acting like jerks. I have seen it happen and know of a few kids who lost out due to this. A college coach doesn't want or need this, and I can't blame them. And again, bud, not giving excuses but it is winter box lacrosse, and who really cares. Did a little research and see the Looney's beat Hawks Green this past fall in the field game. That carries more weight but I don't care that much, I am not associated with Looney's or Hawks.
Nobody really cares? Sure. I'm not a Hawks dad - I was there for the FCA/91 game. Sorry bud - the Loonies parents were like whiney little girls. Didn't have all your players, must be tired because of the holidays, etc. Not every teams parents behave the same - so - don't give me that nonsense. How about they lost because the other team played better. Maybe next time the Loonies will win. Who knows - but enough with excuses.
OMG, if you are a FCA parent, then you have no reason to say anything about another teams parents, FCA parents are near the top for being whiney little girls. Team 91 parents are just plain outright rude. Been around this game a long time and have seen many teams and how the parents act. It is a shame, let the kids play and win or loose, be respectful of others and control your actions. What many don't understand, a college coach recruiting will quickly back of a prospect if they see the parent(s) acting like jerks. I have seen it happen and know of a few kids who lost out due to this. A college coach doesn't want or need this, and I can't blame them. And again, bud, not giving excuses but it is winter box lacrosse, and who really cares. Did a little research and see the Looney's beat Hawks Green this past fall in the field game. That carries more weight but I don't care that much, I am not associated with Looney's or Hawks.
All parents from all teams are crazy and say and think crazy things. Some years some teams have 3 or 4 more crazy on a given team. But to say any one club is crazy and your club is not will just end up with PIE in your face before you know it.
[quote=Anonymous]You are a tool. Did you forget about Fca and Looneys. 4 teams then there's the rest.
Box is a joke and by no means an indicator of success at the field game. The majority of these teams athletes are involved in other sports during winter, as they should be. The best 2020 team isn't even playing. While it can sharpen those with marginal skills in certain ways, its not a recipe or substitute for the real thing. Who cares who wins the goals box league? The same people who care about the NFL exhibition season. The parallels between the 2 are striking.
Box is a joke? Canada has won the last 3 international championships. And Canadian high school Hill School recently defeated the u19 Mens National team.
The league is fun for the boys and helps develop skills which absolutely benefit them outside
Box is different than field. Both are great games. All games matter to the kids (& family) playing in those games. The 2020 division of this Box league is very competitive. The winner of this championship will have really accomplished something.
Obviously the Loonies parents must care given their moaning and groaning. Hawks won - Loonies lost - Loonies parents complained, FOGO flew back to Florida.
Obviously the Loonies parents must care given their moaning and groaning. Hawks won - Loonies lost - Loonies parents complained, FOGO flew back to Florida.
Just did some checking, I guess Looney's parents were pleased when Looney's beat Hawks 15 -3 in the Mid Atlantic Fall Showdown this past November. That, in my opinion, has much more significance than a winter fun box league. And notice how Looney's is spelled. Again, I have no connection with either team, but I find it amusing that Hawks parent or friend keeps posting how great this win was and then goes on trashing the parents. Why not just enjoy your win and be done with it. I do not remember seeing any mention this past November about anyone bragging about the Looney's win, in a field game none the less, where it really counts. Enjoy your Holiday and let the kids play and leave the parents out of it.
Also....Looneys enjoyed..but didn't say much, about the 5 to 0 win over Hawks at young guns...that was 5 to 0.
Obviously the Loonies parents must care given their moaning and groaning. Hawks won - Loonies lost - Loonies parents complained, FOGO flew back to Florida.
Hence the term "FloGo"
Only a Loonies parent (possibly a Crabs parent would to) would actually know the scores from previous games. Hence my original comment that the parents whined like whittle bity babies. Bunch of yahoos who take it way to seriously.
Obviously the Loonies parents must care given their moaning and groaning. Hawks won - Loonies lost - Loonies parents complained, FOGO flew back to Florida.
Hence the term "FloGo"
Good grief is that the best you have? That really missed the humor mark.
Looney's and FCA parents are some of the biggest trash parents out there.
Obviously the Loonies parents must care given their moaning and groaning. Hawks won - Loonies lost - Loonies parents complained, FOGO flew back to Florida.
Hence the term "FloGo"
Good grief is that the best you have? That really missed the humor mark.
Thought it was pretty clever actually. Not surprised that it went right over the heads of the Looney's crew.
[quote=Anonymous]Looney's and FCA parents are some of the biggest trash parents out there. [/quote.
So says a Crab parent or maybe crab daddy himself. You need to take it a step further and look at yourself and/or Crab parents. They are beyond trash/scum of the earth. Maybe it comes from Ryan M and their organizational trash culture.
Only a Loonies parent (possibly a Crabs parent would to) would actually know the scores from previous games. Hence my original comment that the parents whined like whittle bity babies. Bunch of yahoos who take it way to seriously.
No skippy, all you need to do is look up previous tournaments to get scores. Taking it way too seriously really seems to be your hangup bunkyboy. Must be Hawks fool.
Obviously the Loonies parents must care given their moaning and groaning. Hawks won - Loonies lost - Loonies parents complained, FOGO flew back to Florida.
Hence the term "FloGo"
Good grief is that the best you have? That really missed the humor mark.
Thought it was pretty clever actually. Not surprised that it went right over the heads of the Looney's crew.
Clever, clearly you have no idea of clever. And still the butthead Hawk dad still tries to trash Looney's people. Give it a rest, you are far from funny or clever.
Should be interesting the next few years for 2020, FCA White, Breakers or ummm 91 MD Platinum, and Looney's Green will all be AA and compete against their top teams respectively. All the late bloomers will be taking the spot light!
The whining by the Loonies parents is not surprising. Good sportsmanship isn't really in their DNA.
Where are scores available on the Internet for previous tournament? I can't seem to find them? Would you mind posting the links?
ALWAYS easy to remember a SHUTOUT....right HAWKS??
For the middle school grades, what is the main difference between the NPYLL and the Howard County top brackets? I assume level of play is pretty close. Why would a club choose one over another?
WOW. Love the crazy parents. Jerry Jerry Jerry. The parents can not even throw or catch and never knew what a gb was. Love it.
For the middle school grades, what is the main difference between the NPYLL and the Howard County top brackets? I assume level of play is pretty close. Why would a club choose one over another?
Get the popcorn ready.
For the middle school grades, what is the main difference between the NPYLL and the Howard County top brackets? I assume level of play is pretty close. Why would a club choose one over another?
NYPLL has been around longer and was started by and for clubs that required a full-time commitment and kids dropped their rec teams. Howard County was started a few years ago to coexist with rec but most teams have morphed into club-only. The top teams in both league are comparable but NYPLL has more AA teams. Hoco has more total teams and will have up to 3 levels at some grades. All games are at Howard Co turf fields.
NYPLL travel from N Baltimore to No VA to Annapolis...
Loonies parent proving the ordinal poster's point.
Loonies parent proving the ordinal poster's point.
that indoor doesn't count? it's a valid point!
Loonies parent proving the ordinal poster's point.
What in the crap are you talking about? This makes absolutely no sense. Seems like spelling/typing are not your strong points. Yet you still post crap like this, trashing parents.
Clearly the guy meant original poster
Loonies parent proving the ordinal poster's point.
that indoor doesn't count? it's a valid point!
It obviously counts for something or there wouldn't be this many posts about it. Box is a great game.
Loonies parent proving the ordinal poster's point.
that indoor doesn't count? it's a valid point!
It obviously counts for something or there wouldn't be this many posts about it. Box is a great game.
How can it mean anything when most teams don't have a good majority of players available. Some teams can't even get a goalie to play and use another teams goalie for games. This is purely for keeping a stick in the players hands through the winter, nothing more.
box is a different game from field. anyone with a clue knows that. teams that are good at one aren't always good at the other. look at team usa for instance
Great box players are always great field players. Great field players are not by default good box players. Basically in box you don't have space to just carry the ball all over the place and dodge. It's a very technical game where a team has to move the ball quick to get a shot. You also have to be a great shooter to score in box. 4x4 goals and the goalies have bulkier padding. It is a different game in those regards, but the US is about the same at both. Last cycle the US senior team got a silver in outdoor and a bronze in indoor. Lost to Canada and lost to Six Nations. Canada won both. For U-19s the current US field team is not at all likely to beat Canada, and the US indoor U-19 team was 4th at worlds. Lost to Canada and lost to Six Nations. Canada is on top now in both field and indoor for both senior and U-19 national teams. The US is about the same level below them in both and the US is give and take with Six Nations. Right now the reason why Canada seems a little better is the box skill set. All the speed is the ball being passed around and not the players running around.
I guess FOGO kid flew up from Florida because it doesn't matter. More Loonies excuses.
Some really good box games this Sunday also at Goals. Team 91 vs. Rough Riders 7pm and FCA vs. Hawks (both unbeaten) 8pm.
No...was here to work out with face off clinic...no big deal.
Certainly not just to play box.
See you on the field in spring...maybe another shutout??
I guess FOGO kid flew up from Florida because it doesn't matter. More Loonies excuses.
your team must consistently lose to Looney's in league and tournament play. Enjoy your indoor victory, it probably won't happen again until next indoor season.
Can't we enjoy the holidays? Or do you have time off and expect a lot of banner for the next week. If indoor isn't a big deal why are we even talking about match ups this weekend. They are all average
I'll say this as a lacrosse parent; I feel like I got an extra XMas present this year going to watch my sons play box lacrosse. I find the box lacrosse game to be immensely more exciting to watch and the kids seem to enjoy it more too. The outdoor game is not nearly as exciting. With the long pauses for face offs and all the breaks for the substitutions on every time down the field the outdoor game is getting to be as boring as baseball.
Kid flew up from Florida for a face off clinic? You gotta be kidding me? To each their own - but flying anywhere to play 8th grade lacrosse seems completely ridiculous.
Kid flew up from Florida for a face off clinic? You gotta be kidding me? To each their own - but flying anywhere to play 8th grade lacrosse seems completely ridiculous.
Loonies dad - how do I find to scores from previous tournaments? Is there a link?
I guess FOGO kid flew up from Florida because it doesn't matter. More Loonies excuses.
I do not think Looney's or anyone connected to them are making excuses, it seems it is the Hawks parents/fans that keep bring this up because they beat Looney's by 2 goals in box, yet in the field game, where is really counts Looney's beat Hawks by large margins time and again. My feeling is let the kids play indoor, they are playing it for fun and as previously mentioned it is a good way to keep a stick in their hands during the off season.
I guess FOGO kid flew up from Florida because it doesn't matter. More Loonies excuses.
your team must consistently lose to Looney's in league and tournament play. Enjoy your indoor victory, it probably won't happen again until next indoor season.
You are correct, Hawks is always loosing to Looney's in field play, league and tournaments, so this is why they keep pounding Loony's now because of their little fun play time box win last Sunday. But during league/tournament games against Looney's not a peep out of Hawks because they always loose. Good grief, let it go and just let the kids have fun during the winter, stop acting like you just won the world series of lacrosse. When Looney's beat Hawks you never see or hear Looney's parents/fans posting crap like the Hawks are doing over this win.
Kid flew up from Florida for a face off clinic? You gotta be kidding me? To each their own - but flying anywhere to play 8th grade lacrosse seems completely ridiculous.
I'm not connected with Looney's but I know the reason this is done and it is to give this player exposure that he wouldn't get playing youth lacrosse in Fl. He is considered one of the top 5 FOGO 8th graders in youth lacrosse, so to your statement that this is completely ridiculous, you have absolutely no idea what the poop you are talking about, plus it is really none of your business. So keep making butthead comments about something you know nothing about.
8th graders have been ranked as top 5 in the country? The recruiting side and the money involved to participate in it while in middle school is silly.
8th graders have been ranked as top 5 in the country? The recruiting side and the money involved to participate in it while in middle school is silly.
That's your opinion. No one really cares what you think and when you get down to it, you are not paying the money and it is really none of your concern. Did you ever stop to think some parents would rather have their son recognized as an outstanding player rather then the money, which seems to be your driving concern. And again, I have nothing to do with Looney's and obviously their FOGO is not my son, I just know about him and have seen him play a few times and he is superior at his position.
Kid flew up from Florida for a face off clinic? You gotta be kidding me? To each their own - but flying anywhere to play 8th grade lacrosse seems completely ridiculous.
what does it matter weather he flew or not? what is the difference from him coming up from FL to kids from PA, DE, or VA going to a clinic in MD? there is no difference, if his parents can afford airfare they what do you care!
There are likely dozens of kids as talented or better at the FOGO over the kids who fly in and out of showcases. A finalist in the big face off contest last month was a kid from the Bronx who took up lacrosse 6 months ago. He's supposed to be one of the top guns in the class now, but nobody would know that if Harlem lacrosse didn't scholarship the kid or if one of the coaches didn't drive him to the FOGO event. Calm down a little. They're 8th graders.
Merry Christmas everyone. I hope 2015 was all that you hoped for and that 2016 will be prosperous and healthy for all.
Remember our troops.
He is one of the best 8th graders? Seriously - who cares? Sorry folks - routinely putting your 13 year old kid on an airplane in order to play lacrosse is ridiculous. Not to mention shopping your kid around to various club lacrosse programs - many who refused to take him because of the "requirements" put on the clubs by the kids parents. Shameful.
Feel sorry for the kids - wasted childhood chasing the dream of playing in the MLL.
He is one of the best 8th graders? Seriously - who cares? Sorry folks - routinely putting your 13 year old kid on an airplane in order to play lacrosse is ridiculous. Not to mention shopping your kid around to various club lacrosse programs - many who refused to take him because of the "requirements" put on the clubs by the kids parents. Shameful.
Feel sorry for the kids - wasted childhood chasing the dream of playing in the MLL.
Who cares? Obviously you don't but nobody gives a damn what you care about or what you think. Here you are mouthing off about something you know NOTHING about. This boy is not being shopped around to various lacrosse clubs, he has played for the same club in Md. for the past two years and is playing for them again in 2016. So meathead, get the correct facts before you go running you mouth. Now that is shameful.
He is one of the best 8th graders? Seriously - who cares? Sorry folks - routinely putting your 13 year old kid on an airplane in order to play lacrosse is ridiculous. Not to mention shopping your kid around to various club lacrosse programs - many who refused to take him because of the "requirements" put on the clubs by the kids parents. Shameful.
Feel sorry for the kids - wasted childhood chasing the dream of playing in the MLL.
Stop being a pathetic loser talking about a kid and his family. What they do is none of your business! You are probably a Hillary supporter.
The FACTS are he was shopped around BEFORE he landed on your bar sponsored youth lacrosse team. You get the facts straight tool.
The FACTS are he was shopped around BEFORE he landed on your bar sponsored youth lacrosse team. You get the facts straight tool.
You got YOUR facts wrong, you are nothing but a pos and he was never shopped around. Maybe that is what needs to be done with you. Oh, that's right, there would be no takers for a pure looser like yourself. Seems like you have nothing better to do than to criticize other peoples children and other parents. It is none of your business, why can't you get that through your thick head, mind you own f'in business. No one here wants to read your misinformed crap.
The FACTS are he was shopped around BEFORE he landed on your bar sponsored youth lacrosse team. You get the facts straight tool.
not my team, just tired of hearing pathetic excuses for a human being talking about kids on a lax forum. go be better father and interact with your children today!
Kid flew up from Florida for a face off clinic? You gotta be kidding me? To each their own - but flying anywhere to play 8th grade lacrosse seems completely ridiculous.
I'm not connected with Looney's but I know the reason this is done and it is to give this player exposure that he wouldn't get playing youth lacrosse in Fl. He is considered one of the top 5 FOGO 8th graders in youth lacrosse, so to your statement that this is completely ridiculous, you have absolutely no idea what the poop you are talking about, plus it is really none of your business. So keep making butthead comments about something you know nothing about.
Really hope the kid does well. But come on, Top 5 ??? Who does ranking??? He may be a great player..but 8th to 12th is a long time. And the best FOGO's usually arent the most skilled position at older ages, just quick with hands and strong as heck ... Now if his parents see potential and have the time and cash...Go for it..It is their business and time. But to most people that hear about a 8th grader flying up to Maryland to play lax..It is a WOW! He does? to most of them.
It's Christmas. And you are talking about a kid!! Get a grip and if you have to talk about someone go on an nfl forum. Losers
All this talk is really not worth it. The club to look out for is Bitmore. We are building an army of great coaches and awesome players. Pretty soon you will all know who we are and what we are capable of.
All this talk is really not worth it. The club to look out for is Bitmore. We are building an army of great coaches and awesome players. Pretty soon you will all know who we are and what we are capable of.
Playing in the B leagues enjoy
Bitmore daddies do build the best fields. That way they cannot cut their sons.
All this talk is really not worth it. The club to look out for is Bitmore. We are building an army of great coaches and awesome players. Pretty soon you will all know who we are and what we are capable of.
Playing in the B leagues enjoy
Oh sweet doubter, you know not what you say. Time will show you the errors of your ways. Bitmore forever!!
All this talk is really not worth it. The club to look out for is Bitmore. We are building an army of great coaches and awesome players. Pretty soon you will all know who we are and what we are capable of.
Playing in the B leagues enjoy
Bitmore has little competition in western Baltimore county and eastern Howard county. No reason they shouldn't be great.
All this talk is really not worth it. The club to look out for is Bitmore. We are building an army of great coaches and awesome players. Pretty soon you will all know who we are and what we are capable of.
Not affiliated with Bitmore..And you sure arent either, troll
All this talk is really not worth it. The club to look out for is Bitmore. We are building an army of great coaches and awesome players. Pretty soon you will all know who we are and what we are capable of.
Playing in the B leagues enjoy
Bitmore has little competition in western Baltimore county and eastern Howard county. No reason they shouldn't be great.
Undoubtedly the best club along route 40 between patapsco st park and the beltway, which really means nothing.
All this talk is really not worth it. The club to look out for is Bitmore. We are building an army of great coaches and awesome players. Pretty soon you will all know who we are and what we are capable of.
Playing in the B leagues enjoy
Bitmore has little competition in western Baltimore county and eastern Howard county. No reason they shouldn't be great.
Undoubtedly the best club along route 40 between patapsco st park and the beltway, which really means nothing.
Did you forget Howard High won the state championship? If Bitmore can keep those kids from commuting 30 to 60 minutes to their current club's practices, they will be good.
All this talk is really not worth it. The club to look out for is Bitmore. We are building an army of great coaches and awesome players. Pretty soon you will all know who we are and what we are capable of.
Playing in the B leagues enjoy
Bitmore has little competition in western Baltimore county and eastern Howard county. No reason they shouldn't be great.
Undoubtedly the best club along route 40 between patapsco st park and the beltway, which really means nothing.
Did you forget Howard High won the state championship? If Bitmore can keep those kids from commuting 30 to 60 minutes to their current club's practices, they will be good.
Ok, let us know when they do that.
All this talk is really not worth it. The club to look out for is Bitmore. We are building an army of great coaches and awesome players. Pretty soon you will all know who we are and what we are capable of.
Playing in the B leagues enjoy
Bitmore has little competition in western Baltimore county and eastern Howard county. No reason they shouldn't be great.
Undoubtedly the best club along route 40 between patapsco st park and the beltway, which really means nothing.
Did you forget Howard High won the state championship? If Bitmore can keep those kids from commuting 30 to 60 minutes to their current club's practices, they will be good.
Ok, let us know when they do that.
Just saying - the kids are there. Bitmore just needs to have the coaching, organization, and leadership to keep them at home.
If that club is comprised primarily of Howard County public school kids, they are going to get pounded. The MD private school kids who play lacrosse have much better players than those playing in MD public schools.
Even the top Virginia public school teams would have destroyed Howard High School last year.
If that club is comprised primarily of Howard County public school kids, they are going to get pounded. The MD private school kids who play lacrosse have much better players than those playing in MD public schools.
Even the top Virginia public school teams would have destroyed Howard High School last year.
There is D1 talent at Howard, Mt. St Joe's, and other schools in this area. There are also lots of kids in that area that go to Loyola, Boys Latin, St. Pauls, Mcdonogh, etc. The talent is there - just no stable clubs.
If that club is comprised primarily of Howard County public school kids, they are going to get pounded. The MD private school kids who play lacrosse have much better players than those playing in MD public schools.
Even the top Virginia public school teams would have destroyed Howard High School last year.
There is D1 talent at Howard, Mt. St Joe's, and other schools in this area. There are also lots of kids in that area that go to Loyola, Boys Latin, St. Pauls, Mcdonogh, etc. The talent is there - just no stable clubs.
Did you not read the post the dad wrote when he said, "Did you forget Howard High won the state championship? If Bitmore can keep those kids from commuting 30 to 60 minutes to their current club's practices, they will be good."
That Howard HS team would get destroyed by a lot of public and private schools in this area. Getting the public school MD kids into a club is not a recipe for a great club.
[quote=Anonymous]If that club is comprised primarily of Howard County public school kids, they are going to get pounded. The MD private school kids who play lacrosse have much better players than those playing in MD public schools.
The private schools definitely have a higher concentration of better players but public schools have plenty of individual D1 talent . Not all of the most talented players families believe private school is the best option for their kids when considering more than sports. High ranking academic publics often have more to offer than many of the privates and some families make a conscious decision to keep their kids public. If they want their player to get noticed, they trust that their club program will help make that happen. Maryland is one of few regions that base so much emphasis on private schools.
All this talk is really not worth it. The club to look out for is Bitmore. We are building an army of great coaches and awesome players. Pretty soon you will all know who we are and what we are capable of.
Not affiliated with Bitmore..And you sure arent either, troll
If you aren't then why so angry bro?
All this talk is really not worth it. The club to look out for is Bitmore. We are building an army of great coaches and awesome players. Pretty soon you will all know who we are and what we are capable of.
Playing in the B leagues enjoy
Bitmore has little competition in western Baltimore county and eastern Howard county. No reason they shouldn't be great.
Howard boys are not playing for Bitmore. They know better. Howard kids play for Roughriders and Zingos.
Undoubtedly the best club along route 40 between patapsco st park and the beltway, which really means nothing.
Did you forget Howard High won the state championship? If Bitmore can keep those kids from commuting 30 to 60 minutes to their current club's practices, they will be good.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All this talk is really not worth it. The club to look out for is Bitmore. We are building an army of great coaches and awesome players. Pretty soon you will all know who we are and what we are capable of.
Playing in the B leagues enjoy
Bitmore has little competition in western Baltimore county and eastern Howard county. No reason they shouldn't be great.
Undoubtedly the best club along route 40 between patapsco st park and the beltway, which really means nothing.
Did you forget Howard High won the state championship? If Bitmore can keep those kids from commuting 30 to 60 minutes to their current club's practices, they will be good.
Howard boys are not playing for Bitmore. They know better. Howard kids play for Roughriders and Zingos.
Those are two awful clubs.
Those are two awful clubs.
Don't know about Zingos but Roughriders are not that bad of an organization and last year their 2020 AA team was competitive. Unfortunately some key players left for other clubs and they will not be as strong this coming spring. One major positive is that all of their players are age appropriate with no holdbacks, unlike other club teams, mainly Crabs.
Those are two awful clubs.
Don't know about Zingos but Roughriders are not that bad of an organization and last year their 2020 AA team was competitive. Unfortunately some key players left for other clubs and they will not be as strong this coming spring. One major positive is that all of their players are age appropriate with no holdbacks, unlike other club teams, mainly Crabs.
That is not a true statement. I personally know several holdbacks on Roughriders. Don't make things up.
Not only crabs, fca, Looneys, 91 force all have hold backs.
Those are two awful clubs.
Don't know about Zingos but Roughriders are not that bad of an organization and last year their 2020 AA team was competitive. Unfortunately some key players left for other clubs and they will not be as strong this coming spring. One major positive is that all of their players are age appropriate with no holdbacks, unlike other club teams, mainly Crabs.
So says the Crabs dad.
That is not a true statement. I personally know several holdbacks on Roughriders. Don't make things up.
Those are two awful clubs.
Don't know about Zingos but Roughriders are not that bad of an organization and last year their 2020 AA team was competitive. Unfortunately some key players left for other clubs and they will not be as strong this coming spring. One major positive is that all of their players are age appropriate with no holdbacks, unlike other club teams, mainly Crabs.
Not making things up. Just curious, which teams have holdbacks? I know 2020/2021 and 2022 have none, as far as I can determine.
That is not a true statement. I personally know several holdbacks on Roughriders. Don't make things up.
Those are two awful clubs.
Don't know about Zingos but Roughriders are not that bad of an organization and last year their 2020 AA team was competitive. Unfortunately some key players left for other clubs and they will not be as strong this coming spring. One major positive is that all of their players are age appropriate with no holdbacks, unlike other club teams, mainly Crabs.
Not making things up. Just curious, which teams have holdbacks? I know 2020/2021 and 2022 have none, as far as I can determine.
That is not a true statement. I personally know several holdbacks on Roughriders. Don't make things up.
2022 absolutely has holdbacks. So does 2021. Unless you aren't considering pre-first a holdback. They certainly have kids older than what is typical for their grade because of attending pre-first at a private school. All teams have holdbacks because of this for the most part.
Box doesn't mean much to who? From what I have seen - the players and some of the parents (cough - Loonies) seem to take it pretty seriously.
Box is a joke in maryland. That is it.
If you say so - it must be true.
Well, of the 5 high school kids who made the USA U-19 box team, 3 were from Maryland. Not all of them are a joke.
Box doesn't mean much to who? From what I have seen - the players and some of the parents (cough - Loonies) seem to take it pretty seriously.
Which Looney's team?
Looney's is the club that disbanded their 2017 and 2018 teams. Stay away.
The FACTS are he was shopped around BEFORE he landed on your bar sponsored youth lacrosse team. You get the facts straight tool.
You got YOUR facts wrong, you are nothing but a pos and he was never shopped around. Maybe that is what needs to be done with you. Oh, that's right, there would be no takers for a pure looser like yourself. Seems like you have nothing better to do than to criticize other peoples children and other parents. It is none of your business, why can't you get that through your thick head, mind you own f'in business. No one here wants to read your misinformed crap.
*loser not looser
You seem really angry. Speak for yourself - I like reading misinformed crap, that's why I come to these forums every day. It's very entertaining.
Where in the Balt. area can one fing TRUE Canadian Box Lacrosse? League??? Do you have to be on a team or can a single player join??
Wow - isn't it time to change the kegs or clean the bathroom at the pub?
Looney's is the club that disbanded their 2017 and 2018 teams. Stay away.
did the club disband them or was there very low turnout?
Looney's is the club that disbanded their 2017 and 2018 teams. Stay away.
did the club disband them or was there very low turnout?
Low turn out. Never recovered at those grades from losing kids to FCA when they started up. This person has a bug in his butt and makes the same comment over and over. Next post will be about Carroll Manor coaches
Wow - isn't it time to change the kegs or clean the bathroom at the pub?
yes, and your late again!
Looneys really doesn't have anything to do with the pub for the record. How about for 2016 you stay off of the site.
Looney's is the club that disbanded their 2017 and 2018 teams. Stay away.
did the club disband them or was there very low turnout?
Low turn out. Never recovered at those grades from losing kids to FCA when they started up. This person has a bug in his butt and makes the same comment over and over. Next post will be about Carroll Manor coaches
The teams were terrible, but who ever heard of disbanding a rising junior and rising sophomore team? Totally left the kids on the team on the dock as they sailed away.
Pretty lame. The club is falling apart.
Your nuts. Sorry your kid got cut and couldn't make another club team. Only reason why you would come on here and complain like you do
Looney's is the club that disbanded their 2017 and 2018 teams. Stay away.
did the club disband them or was there very low turnout?
Low turn out. Never recovered at those grades from losing kids to FCA when they started up. This person has a bug in his butt and makes the same comment over and over. Next post will be about Carroll Manor coaches
The teams were terrible, but who ever heard of disbanding a rising junior and rising sophomore team? Totally left the kids on the team on the dock as they sailed away.
Pretty lame. The club is falling apart.
Club has 10-11 teams, how is that falling apart? How many teams does your sons club have?
Looney's is the club that disbanded their 2017 and 2018 teams. Stay away.
did the club disband them or was there very low turnout?
Low turn out. Never recovered at those grades from losing kids to FCA when they started up. This person has a bug in his butt and makes the same comment over and over. Next post will be about Carroll Manor coaches
The teams were terrible, but who ever heard of disbanding a rising junior and rising sophomore team? Totally left the kids on the team on the dock as they sailed away.
Pretty lame. The club is falling apart.
They did not leave kids, the kids left the team. Now the reason they left does not reflect well on the club, but nonetheless, the club did not abandon the kids.
HEY MAN...we get it...you hate Looney's.
It's getting old...
Same thing happened with the Crab hardshells at the older ages and probably will happen to FCA older teams. When kids realize they aren't going to get recruited or play on a competitive squad they will walk away. It is the kid's choice (and parents, why pay so much $ if it does't get results)...that isn't a Looney's problem...happens at just about every club, especially those with 2 teams per age group. Looney's was strong at 16s and will be strong 2020 and below.
I like Looney's - great wings
LOL. You can see who has the young kids. All you posters who have not gone through the recruiting process are very much in the dark. If you have a middle school kid, talk to a HS parent who has already done it. Your eyes will be opened. Not all kids will be D1. If you kid goes D1 the scholarships are split up as every team only gets 12.5. Most kids will play D11 and D111 and the grades will get them more money than sports. Once they get to college they may not play as coaches change once you are there. Better to make sure you kid is having fun and getting good grades than be that crazy parent on the side line. (you know who you are)
I understand this forum is based on crazy people attacking different clubs, Club directors, Tournaments, HS's and parents. Just want to enter some truth into the argument.
LOL. You can see who has the young kids. All you posters who have not gone through the recruiting process are very much in the dark. If you have a middle school kid, talk to a HS parent who has already done it. Your eyes will be opened. Not all kids will be D1. If you kid goes D1 the scholarships are split up as every team only gets 12.5. Most kids will play D11 and D111 and the grades will get them more money than sports. Once they get to college they may not play as coaches change once you are there. Better to make sure you kid is having fun and getting good grades than be that crazy parent on the side line. (you know who you are)
I understand this forum is based on crazy people attacking different clubs, Club directors, Tournaments, HS's and parents. Just want to enter some truth into the argument.
I feel you sir. I am going through this youth sport thing with my second child now. And I find myself way more calm and collected with all these topics on this site. Once you do it once you realize its not life or death if your son can shoot 90 miles a hour with his left hand at 12. But with the first I tracked everyone of his skills and what level they where at. When it comes to D1 sports and I mean all D1 sports you are born with what it takes or you are not. And the coaches will find you if you are built for D1 relax and it will come if your son has what it takes. Just let them play and teach them to work hard and play hard and us parents should just sit back and relax and let it happen.
Sometimes a club loses a lot of kids on a particular team. But I've never heard of a club disbanding two teams because of lack of players.
Please don't bring up FCA. The Looneys 2017 team did not lose any kids to that program. Those kiss were not r3cruit3d away by FCA. OT is just that both teams had bad talent and the club gave up on them.
Sometimes a club loses a lot of kids on a particular team. But I've never heard of a club disbanding two teams because of lack of players.
Please don't bring up FCA. The Looneys 2017 team did not lose any kids to that program. Those kiss were not r3cruit3d away by FCA. OT is just that both teams had bad talent and the club gave up on them.
with so many clubs now this will happen more and more. There's bound to be an attrition with the number of kids playing high school club. All these middle club players are not making their HS teams - especially at the MIAA schools. And even those that do but aren't likely to get recruited for college - why pay all that money for recruiting tournaments? So the ones that are left will end up going to a stronger team and you'll see clubs have trouble filling HS rosters. SOunds like this is what happened to the looneys 17/18 teams. Apparently they didn't have enough kids to make a full team register for tryouts. So they pulled the plug early so they ones who wanted to play could find a team. I think some ended up at the green trurtle
Sometimes a club loses a lot of kids on a particular team. But I've never heard of a club disbanding two teams because of lack of players.
Please don't bring up FCA. The Looneys 2017 team did not lose any kids to that program. Those kiss were not r3cruit3d away by FCA. OT is just that both teams had bad talent and the club gave up on them.
with so many clubs now this will happen more and more. There's bound to be an attrition with the number of kids playing high school club. All these middle club players are not making their HS teams - especially at the MIAA schools. And even those that do but aren't likely to get recruited for college - why pay all that money for recruiting tournaments? So the ones that are left will end up going to a stronger team and you'll see clubs have trouble filling HS rosters. SOunds like this is what happened to the looneys 17/18 teams. Apparently they didn't have enough kids to make a full team register for tryouts. So they pulled the plug early so they ones who wanted to play could find a team. I think some ended up at the green trurtle
I know this is opposite of most of you guys thoughts. But I think the Looneys club should be applauded for canceling a team that was not going to be worth the time and effort. Most clubs would push forward with a team as long as they had 18 body's willing to pay. This tells me someone over there cares about kids not just a pay check.
Actually...it did happen.
Good coaches made a move..players moved also.
Saw a similar thing with Team 91...no hard feelings..it's a open market on teams.
Hawks kids have moved in and out of Crabs.
It happens.
I think the club and parents are at fault. It is OK to have a kid that will never play MIAA A play club. It is also OK to have an A, A- or B club team with a bunch of kids and parents that love lacrosse and want to play more than just HS. The club can focus on lesser tournaments and still be competitive. I think the club looses the focus of expanding the sport and letting the kids have fun. Not every on is a D1 player. I know every kid on the Crabs, younger Looneys, FCA are all D1 players. Please do not exclude the kids that want to get better, have the drive but do not have the natural ability.
I think the club and parents are at fault. It is OK to have a kid that will never play MIAA A play club. It is also OK to have an A, A- or B club team with a bunch of kids and parents that love lacrosse and want to play more than just HS. The club can focus on lesser tournaments and still be competitive. I think the club looses the focus of expanding the sport and letting the kids have fun. Not every on is a D1 player. I know every kid on the Crabs, younger Looneys, FCA are all D1 players. Please do not exclude the kids that want to get better, have the drive but do not have the natural ability.
I agree with this 100% but no club will stat this as there goal they all want to say play for us and be D1. None of these clubs will tell the best player on the team to go play for the Crabs you are a D1 kid this team is for D3 or just for fun kids.
Any thoughts on lower age group programs at the U9 range?
Club Blue, Next Level or Zingos
Which is better for development?
Any thoughts on lower age group programs at the U9 range?
Club Blue, Next Level or Zingos
Which is better for development?
Where do you live and how far are you willing to drive?
Any thoughts on lower age group programs at the U9 range?
Club Blue, Next Level or Zingos
Which is better for development?
My best advise is to pick the closest one and see where your sons skill level fits in. After you decide that come back here and ask again to find the best club for his skill level.
U9 is very young. Stay with a club that is close to you to make sure he wants to stay with it. Some of the best kids at u9 do nothing at u15 or HS. Make sure he and you are having fun. All this other stuff is just Cr@p.
Any thoughts on lower age group programs at the U9 range?
Club Blue, Next Level or Zingos
Which is better for development?
This is somewhat off topic but close to this topic. I think Lacrosse is a good sport for the undersized kid with heart. But I think us Lacrosse people forget that Lacrosse is still a contact sport and when it comes to D1 and even top D3 lacrosse its still all about body type and measurable s. If you and your wife are 5 foot and 5' 3" and you both run a 7 flat 40 have your son play lacrosse for fun and do not go down this Rabbit hole of travel lacrosse. No one pushes a kid for a football scholarship when they are 5 foot 100 pounds in 10th grade why do we think this kid could play D1 lacrosse.
D1 Maryland D poles avg height is 6'1" and 196 pounds. So if your son is not going to be this big or be strong/fast enough to deal with this size player stop the D1 dream. If he falls in this range or will fall in this range go for it.
Actually...it did happen.
Good coaches made a move..players moved also.
Saw a similar thing with Team 91...no hard feelings..it's a open market on teams.
Hawks kids have moved in and out of Crabs.
It happens.
Wrong. That was not the case with either Looney's 2017 or 2018. Both teams were terrible. Neither team lost kids or a coach because of a mass exodus or another club wooing them away.
Both teams were terrible since the outset and then the club pulled the plug and kicked those kids to the curb.
Way to support them, Looney's.
Actually...it did happen.
Good coaches made a move..players moved also.
Saw a similar thing with Team 91...no hard feelings..it's a open market on teams.
Hawks kids have moved in and out of Crabs.
It happens.
Wrong. That was not the case with either Looney's 2017 or 2018. Both teams were terrible. Neither team lost kids or a coach because of a mass exodus or another club wooing them away.
Both teams were terrible since the outset and then the club pulled the plug and kicked those kids to the curb.
Way to support them, Looney's.
If they where as bad as you say they where then they where stealing from those players. The club should not put a team on the field if they are not good enough to play at the level required.
Not to disrupt such an informative back and forth on Looney's, but a serious question:
How prevalent is it for kids to start kindergarten as 6 year olds in Baltimore, Md-suburbs of DC, DC or NoVA? In other words, do boys with Summer and even Spring birthdays typically wait a year to start kindergarten in these areas?
I was talking with friends with kids in private school in a couple of larger Southern cities and was amazed when they said it would be (and has been for years) unusual for boy born in April to start kindergarten as a 5-year old in their cities? They said this was also somewhat true of the parents they knew with kids in public school.
Not to disrupt such an informative back and forth on Looney's, but a serious question:
How prevalent is it for kids to start kindergarten as 6 year olds in Baltimore, Md-suburbs of DC, DC or NoVA? In other words, do boys with Summer and even Spring birthdays typically wait a year to start kindergarten in these areas?
I was talking with friends with kids in private school in a couple of larger Southern cities and was amazed when they said it would be (and has been for years) unusual for boy born in April to start kindergarten as a 5-year old in their cities? They said this was also somewhat true of the parents they knew with kids in public school.
I am guessing you are on the age based side of the new grad year based format in use now in the DMV. With the cost of daycare in the DMV you have to be someone with means to be able to decide to pay another full year of day care. So your summer birthday son can go into school at 6 years old. Yes it happens a lot and many lacrosse boys do 8th grade twice so they are 2 years older going into high school.
Nobody is repeating 8th grade twice. Get a grip.
I'm not in DMV, but my kids go to a private school with 2-3 kids a year re-classing for b-ball or football, but not lax yet. All the kids I know who went to boarding school and play lax repeated 9th grade.
Nobody is repeating 8th grade twice. Get a grip.
But many kids did pre first and repeated 8th grade
Any thoughts on lower age group programs at the U9 range?
Club Blue, Next Level or Zingos
Which is better for development?
Where do you live and how far are you willing to drive?
Silver spring, would drive an hour or so. Our daughter plays for M&D so we can drive. Just at u9, we know he is lacking some skills of the better players on the better teams. We just want some better coaching and options for him in the meantime. Has played rec for 3 yrs and this is his 1st with NL. Was asked to tryout for zingos, this the initial question
D1 Maryland D poles avg height is 6'1" and 196 pounds. So if your son is not going to be this big or be strong/fast enough to deal with this size player stop the D1 dream. If he falls in this range or will fall in this range go for it.
He will easily be taller than that. He is 4'8" now and 8
D1 Maryland D poles avg height is 6'1" and 196 pounds. So if your son is not going to be this big or be strong/fast enough to deal with this size player stop the D1 dream. If he falls in this range or will fall in this range go for it.
He will easily be taller than that. He is 4'8" now and 8
By no means are we pushing him to be the next great lax player, he loves to play, its not his only sport. We are just looking for a good team for him to develop and grow with good coaching. His team now, is a little too relaxed and they are not teaching him much. He learned his dodges and crease rolls slides and faceoffs from a player at Gonzaga that lives in our neighborhood
Any thoughts on lower age group programs at the U9 range?
Club Blue, Next Level or Zingos
Which is better for development?
Where do you live and how far are you willing to drive?
Silver spring, would drive an hour or so. Our daughter plays for M&D so we can drive. Just at u9, we know he is lacking some skills of the better players on the better teams. We just want some better coaching and options for him in the meantime. Has played rec for 3 yrs and this is his 1st with NL. Was asked to tryout for zingos, this the initial question
drive an hour for LAX in a dime a dozen LAX region...wow!
Nobody is repeating 8th grade twice. Get a grip.
But many kids did pre first and repeated 8th grade
define many? You can't be 19 before your senior year in MIAA and play sports that year. That would constitute the mythical double hold-back -- ie being a summer birthday and waiting until kid is 6 start school and then repeating a grade later on. Is anyone aware of a lax player that skipped his senior year? I would imagine it's happened since they made a rule that against it. But it certainly not "many" at least in MIAA. Does DC/VA leagues not have an age limit? I have heard of some egregious examples of holbacks. Fall bdays where the kids is already older for his normal grade and then a holdback year. But the double holdback is a myth. And the number of single hold backs is exaggerated. Most middle school teams have 4-5 and most of them are summer birthdays. Some teams have more, others less.
D1 Maryland D poles avg height is 6'1" and 196 pounds. So if your son is not going to be this big or be strong/fast enough to deal with this size player stop the D1 dream. If he falls in this range or will fall in this range go for it.
He will easily be taller than that. He is 4'8" now and 8
Maybe. Or maybe he stops growing when he hits 5'10". You have no idea how tall he may eventually become.
Nobody is repeating 8th grade twice. Get a grip.
But many kids did pre first and repeated 8th grade
define many? You can't be 19 before your senior year in MIAA and play sports that year. That would constitute the mythical double hold-back -- ie being a summer birthday and waiting until kid is 6 start school and then repeating a grade later on. Is anyone aware of a lax player that skipped his senior year? I would imagine it's happened since they made a rule that against it. But it certainly not "many" at least in MIAA. Does DC/VA leagues not have an age limit? I have heard of some egregious examples of holbacks. Fall bdays where the kids is already older for his normal grade and then a holdback year. But the double holdback is a myth. And the number of single hold backs is exaggerated. Most middle school teams have 4-5 and most of them are summer birthdays. Some teams have more, others less.
The double holdback does seem to go against being able to play in MIAA in HS. But you are sadly mistaken on the amount of kids heldback. I know from actual knowledge,,,not hearsay that two different grades at one had close to 50% of boys held back in prefirst.
It was common knowledge that all MIAA schools had many kids that did prefirst. Add that up and clubs are full of heldback kids. And they are not all summer birthdays. Could care less why parents do it at school. It is their business why, But the take over of Lacrosse for these special kids goes completely against all youth sports morals
D1 Maryland D poles avg height is 6'1" and 196 pounds. So if your son is not going to be this big or be strong/fast enough to deal with this size player stop the D1 dream. If he falls in this range or will fall in this range go for it.
He will easily be taller than that. He is 4'8" now and 8
Maybe. Or maybe he stops growing when he hits 5'10". You have no idea how tall he may eventually become.
I posted this fact to help the parents set expectations for there child. We all know looking at the parents size and height is not 100% but it is by far the best way to project size of child when they get to 18 years old. Also this helps the parent of a small child who is kicking butt at U11 and even U13. But his projected size is going to be 5' 8" 120 his Sr year. So I say once again Lacrosse at the highest level is still a CONTACT sport. Stick skills can not handle 6'1" 225 pole no matter how good they are.
Disagree, Off ball movement and stick skills are the key. The 6'1' 225 pole is good but if he is chasing a little guy like Rob Pannell 5' 10', Joe Sanke 5'5", Jordan Wolf 5'9", Matt Kavanagh 5'8" he will get smoked. That is a fact Jack.
Disagree, Off ball movement and stick skills are the key. The 6'1' 225 pole is good but if he is chasing a little guy like Rob Pannell 5' 10', Joe Sanke 5'5", Jordan Wolf 5'9", Matt Kavanagh 5'8" he will get smoked. That is a fact Jack.
I would guess that all of these guys have very very very sick shuttle run and 40 times. And if some one has time please find the avg size of all the 70 D1 attackmen. I am guessing its not 5'9". So lets go back to the football example I can name you some great small players but 99 out of 100 people will tell you Football is a big strong mans game. Top 1% measurable s can overcome size and weight negatives in all sports but as a rule of thumb in all contact sports size and weight win. Also when I talk about stick skills I am talking about all the skills acquired from hours of practice on a wall or goal not what you are born with or acquire in a gym.
Stick skills are practice. Game IQ is to a great extent just repetition and good coaching. People make this sport sound like it is the SAT in cleats. I'd say the liability for kids is poor coaching, bad habits. Great coaching getting to great habits are just being confused with this lacrosse IQ drivel. Most elite lacrosse players aren't elite in other sports. They may be strong athletes but if they are not coached and don't get reps in say soccer, they will look like the crude low soccer IQ kids out there. There are plenty of posters here who think great football players can't be good lacrosse players and it confuses a point when they back that up pointing at football kids who pick up lacrosse late and would be great lacrosse players if focused on it. It's just practice.
It always pays to be a great athlete AND have physical stature. There are positional exceptions. An NFL receiver can be 5'9 weigh 80 pounds less than linebackers, and so can cornerbacks. But those players have to be fast as sin. Speed kills and size matters little at those positions. Except for these positions and kickers, football players at a high level need to have a oh shiva stature. In basketball and many other sports it is also needed. I think in lacrosse an attackman can be small but must be fast as sin. At all other positions I have no doubt that these kids have to be both skilled and have the physical stature. I doubt any early verbal at middie, defense or goalie at 5'7 and rail thin will ever play unless they fill out into the stature that strong players in college have. I think this is especially true at defense and goalie. In future years with the growth of the game I think a college defender or goalie under 6'0 and 190-200 will become as rare as a big time college or pro QB in football shorter than 6'0.
Lacrosse will reach a point soon where diminutive size means kids can't play D1 or pro just like other developed sports.
Lacrosse will reach a point soon where diminutive size means kids can't play D1 or pro just like other developed sports.
Just like in the NHL? Most players there are under 6'0 tall!
My coach always said "you cant teach speed or size"....you either have it or you don't.
My coach always said "you cant teach speed or size"....you either have it or you don't.
Nor heart and determination. Height isn't the true measure of a man!
My coach always said "you cant teach speed or size"....you either have it or you don't.
Nor heart and determination. Height isn't the true measure of a man!
There isn't a doubt that if you take two lacrosse players where one is 5'8 and 170 pounds and one who is 6'2 and 200+ pounds were both are equally fast, agile and skilled the great advantage goes to the athlete with stature. You can't go to the gym and work on getting taller or longer. In lacrosse length to play bigger and cover more space or hold a stick away from defenders is an advantage. Being physically bigger and stronger than another smaller player is always an advantage assuming the bigger kid can run with the smaller player. That isn't even a debate. People who point at the past successes of undersized lacrosse players are focusing on attackmen and I maintain that is always possible for attackmen who are exceptionally fast. Beyond that, all there is to point at is lacrosse history to here is whitewashed by he fact that it has historically been a sanctuary for white, prep school, privileged and small kids who'd not succeed in other sports. Lacrosse is a comp to sports like squash and fencing in that regard.
My coach always said "you cant teach speed or size"....you either have it or you don't.
Nor heart and determination. Height isn't the true measure of a man!
There isn't a doubt that if you take two lacrosse players where one is 5'8 and 170 pounds and one who is 6'2 and 200+ pounds were both are equally fast, agile and skilled the great advantage goes to the athlete with stature. You can't go to the gym and work on getting taller or longer. In lacrosse length to play bigger and cover more space or hold a stick away from defenders is an advantage. Being physically bigger and stronger than another smaller player is always an advantage assuming the bigger kid can run with the smaller player. That isn't even a debate. People who point at the past successes of undersized lacrosse players are focusing on attackmen and I maintain that is always possible for attackmen who are exceptionally fast. Beyond that, all there is to point at is lacrosse history to here is whitewashed by he fact that it has historically been a sanctuary for white, prep school, privileged and small kids who'd not succeed in other sports. Lacrosse is a comp to sports like squash and fencing in that regard.
And, what is the excuse for hockey?
Lacrosse will reach a point soon where diminutive size means kids can't play D1 or pro just like other developed sports.
Just like in the NHL? Most players there are under 6'0 tall!
Not true. Of the 28 players on the Capitals only 3 under 6'0". 1 at 5'10" 2 at 5'11". 7 6'3" or above.
Thanks prior poster. NHL has some diminutive sized players, but not many of them. I saw the Boston Bruins passing through an airport to their team bus a couple weeks ago. I'm 5'11 and felt like a twerp as they were walking by. Too exhausting to just respond to the toppers who won't give in. With alike speed, agility and skill, 6+ and 200+ has it all over 5'7 and 160-175 every time. One of the issues with early recruiting is the extrapolations of what a small 8th or 9th grader will be. In truth a lot of the reclassified kids are just plain undersized for their age and have used the repeat grade thing during the puberty years for a short window of advantage. Then that closes and it doesn't hold up.
Just like in the NHL? Most players there are under 6'0 tall![/quote]
Just looked at NY Rangers roster. Of the 28 players on the roster only 2 under 6'0". 1 at 5'11" 1 at 5'7". 6 players 6'3" or above.
Not sure where you are getting your hockey information from. It is wrong.
As lacrosse evolves so will the athlete that plays it...
Most get measured with skates on. I've met many NHL players who were list at 6 or taller and were shorter than me, I'm between 5'10 and 11
Most get measured with skates on. I've met many NHL players who were list at 6 or taller and were shorter than me, I'm between 5'10 and 11
The best part of this thread right now is this started from a statement about if you and your wife are small and slow its going to be pretty hard for your son to play D1. I do love how it has gotten to this point. But for anyone to say Size and strength or weight are not great advantages in any contact sport you are nuts. So when it comes to speed of a player at D1 can you guys name any slow running players in D1 and if so how many? And if you do find any slow players please tell me how tall and how much they weight?
Speed will always be prioritized over size for a sport like lacrosse. Prototypical long pole playing in college will be 6'+, but if you ask them if they'd rather cover a slow 6'+ attackman or a shifty/fast 5'6 Sankey type ... you already know the answer.
There are no slow D1 lacrosse players. You'll never see the field.
Speed will always be prioritized over size for a sport like lacrosse. Prototypical long pole playing in college will be 6'+, but if you ask them if they'd rather cover a slow 6'+ attackman or a shifty/fast 5'6 Sankey type ... you already know the answer.
There are no slow D1 lacrosse players. You'll never see the field.
Speed and size will always be prioritized over speed alone. Always.
Right now lacrosse is a sport where shorter players can play at the highest levels. There are plenty of 5'8"-5'11" attack and middies playing at the big D-1 schools. Who knows how things will change. I'm 6'4" and my son is already 6' at 13 so is isn't an issue for us. I think that there will always be a place for the smaller, shifty dodging offensive players provided they are fast/quick enough. It's one of the great things about the sport.
22 of 50 for Hopkins roster under 6' tall and add another 9 that are exactly 6' tall.
Don't forget. They don't just have to end up 6'1" and 190 lbs. They have get nearly that big by the Fall of 9th grade or Summer before 10th on the current recruiting calendar. Doesn't matter if dad is 6'3" and both parents played college sports if they aren't held back or an early maturer.
Don't forget. They don't just have to end up 6'1" and 190 lbs. They have get nearly that big by the Fall of 9th grade or Summer before 10th on the current recruiting calendar. Doesn't matter if dad is 6'3" and both parents played college sports if they aren't held back or an early maturer.
That is pathetic. Leaves lacrosse with a long ways to go toward becoming a real sport.
Where 3d blew it and Team 91 will blow it is neither centered in Southern Maryland. As a prior poster noted the best strategy is to be somewhere 30 mins south of Baltimore, 30-40 minutes from Annapolis and 20 minutes away from Montgomery County and 40 minutes away from Fairfax County.
Lots of people would exercise a choice and you could draw some people from all those areas and incubate a good club. Setting up shop in Leesburg Virginia was stupid for 3d and alienated the families of the better players they were able to attract. Setting up a me-too version of Madlax or VLC in Fairfax County is equally stupid, and setting up a me-too version of Crabs or FCA in Baltimore is likely the most stupid thing which is what Team 91 is about to do. I see more of the same reading that they are doing tryouts in early August in Baltimore burbs.
It's a loser strategy right out of the box. 3d just blew it. Nobody wants to drive to Leesburg to play with the Battlelax and PVI leftovers. That's a shame considering they have a platform to be a success but just a terrible execution strategy. Ditto with Team 91 Maryland...that will be exciting for about 3 months.
No a shot I'm trekking over to southern maryland from fairfax county. I'd rather drive out to leesburg.
It all depends on club coaching, consistency, and dedication.
Don't forget. They don't just have to end up 6'1" and 190 lbs. They have get nearly that big by the Fall of 9th grade or Summer before 10th on the current recruiting calendar. Doesn't matter if dad is 6'3" and both parents played college sports if they aren't held back or an early maturer.
Jordan Wolf - 5'9"
Rob Pannell - 5'10"
Mike Powell - 5'11"
Joey Sankey - 5'5"
Matt Kavanaugh - 5"8"
Kevin Rice - 5'8"
Some of the best to ever play the game and below 6'.
Don't forget. They don't just have to end up 6'1" and 190 lbs. They have get nearly that big by the Fall of 9th grade or Summer before 10th on the current recruiting calendar. Doesn't matter if dad is 6'3" and both parents played college sports if they aren't held back or an early maturer.
Jordan Wolf - 5'9"
Rob Pannell - 5'10"
Mike Powell - 5'11"
Joey Sankey - 5'5"
Matt Kavanaugh - 5"8"
Kevin Rice - 5'8"
Some of the best to ever play the game and below 6'.
Most of those a guys are shorter than Crabs 2020 players turning 16 this summer.
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Don't forget. They don't just have to end up 6'1" and 190 lbs. They have get nearly that big by the Fall of 9th grade or Summer before 10th on the current recruiting calendar. Doesn't matter if dad is 6'3" and both parents played college sports if they aren't held back or an early maturer.
Jordan Wolf - 5'9"
Rob Pannell - 5'10"
Mike Powell - 5'11"
Joey Sankey - 5'5"
Matt Kavanaugh - 5"8"
Kevin Rice - 5'8"
Some of the best to ever play the game and below 6'.
You tried to use guys 1 or 2 inches below 6 foot to prove point. That is funny. That's like telling all the 5'5" basketball players in high school to go out and spend big money trying to play D1 basketball. Well Spud Webb did it so you should waste your time and get your hopes up
I compiled the average height and weight for the LSM / D players at seven D1 programs and it was just a tad over 6'0" and about 190 lbs. Speed still trumps size, but big and fast is better than small and fast!
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Don't forget. They don't just have to end up 6'1" and 190 lbs. They have get nearly that big by the Fall of 9th grade or Summer before 10th on the current recruiting calendar. Doesn't matter if dad is 6'3" and both parents played college sports if they aren't held back or an early maturer.
Jordan Wolf - 5'9"
Rob Pannell - 5'10"
Mike Powell - 5'11"
Joey Sankey - 5'5"
Matt Kavanaugh - 5"8"
Kevin Rice - 5'8"
Some of the best to ever play the game and below 6'.
You tried to use guys 1 or 2 inches below 6 foot to prove point. That is funny. That's like telling all the 5'5" basketball players in high school to go out and spend big money trying to play D1 basketball. Well Spud Webb did it so you should waste your time and get your hopes up
Terrible analogy there Lurch! Spud Webb was never considered "one of the best"! Also, most of the players listed there are more than 1 to 2 inches charter than 6'. Put down the mad dog 2020 and put together a better argument.
How many total D1 players would be taken in to the equation for your example chosen (6 attackmen). I think your being very selective to prove a false statement. Not attacking anyone, I just really disagree. I have stood on the sidelines at Bayhawk games and those fellas are VERY big.
As a side not at fall ball this year Crabs 2021 walked by me onto the field at a tourney...... I am 6'1" and almost half were taller than me!!! Size is increasingly a factor at all levels.
2021 more then half over 6 foot?? Are u kidding me? 2021 but most might be 14 yrs old and I doubt more then half over 6 foot.
2021 more then half over 6 foot?? Are u kidding me? 2021 but most might be 14 yrs old and I doubt more then half over 6 foot.
stated on internet anonymously. must be true
How many total D1 players would be taken in to the equation for your example chosen (6 attackmen). I think your being very selective to prove a false statement. Not attacking anyone, I just really disagree. I have stood on the sidelines at Bayhawk games and those fellas are VERY big.
As a side not at fall ball this year Crabs 2021 walked by me onto the field at a tourney...... I am 6'1" and almost half were taller than me!!! Size is increasingly a factor at all levels.
What you need to understand about Crabs is a lot of their 2021 players are holdbacks and should be playing 2020 or maybe 2019 but not sure about 2019 but for sure 2020. Crabs is well known for the king of holdbacks and their 2021 and 2020 teams lead the way.
I'd say that's about right....I don't know of any 2020 crab poles less than 6'
I'd say that's about right....I don't know of any 2020 crab poles less than 6'
No one is saying its a 100% fact who have to be tall strong and fast to play D1 lacrosse but most are. Do if your son is not going to be all three or at least 2 of the 3 save your money. And for him to only be 2 of the 3 he has to be very strong or very fast to out weigh not being all 3. As a coach I love molding kids into better players. But a hard fact is coaches do not make D1 players genetics and some hard work do. The coaching and practice makes them great when they start playing D1 but 9 out of 10 times genetics and a weight room get them onto the team. Sorry I know it hurts
Any good box games today?
What hurts? I don't get it
Any good box games today?
Yes, watched the looneys vs 91 md. Looneys was down big but pulled it out by one.
Any good box games today?
Yes, watched the looneys vs 91 md. Looneys was down big but pulled it out by one.
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Hawks seem to be the team to beat in box....natural beat boxers!
FUN game to watch. Looney's came out a little flat, 91 shot well and had a BIG guy in the cage..Looney's hit him all night.
Looney's was down four..tied it with 30 sec. to play, scored with 3 sec. to end.
Well done both sides.
What year Hawks team are you speaking of?
What teams have started spring practice?
What teams have started spring practice?
2020
What teams have started spring practice?
Is it spring practice if you are practicing in the winter?
Don't know of any 2020 teams in spring practice yet.
Don't know of any 2020 teams in spring practice yet.
I know a few that are in winter skills and drills.
[quote=Anonymous]D1 Maryland D poles avg height is 6'1" and 196 pounds. So if your son is not going to be this big or be strong/fast enough to deal with this size player stop the D1 dream. If he falls in this range or will fall in this range go for it.
He will easily be taller than that. He is 4'8" now and 8
Kid on my sons team was 4'8 in 4th grade too. Now he's about 5'4. Kids want to go to great schools, STUDY!
[quote=Anonymous]D1 Maryland D poles avg height is 6'1" and 196 pounds. So if your son is not going to be this big or be strong/fast enough to deal with this size player stop the D1 dream. If he falls in this range or will fall in this range go for it.
He will easily be taller than that. He is 4'8" now and 8
Kid on my sons team was 4'8 in 4th grade too. Now he's about 5'4. Kids want to go to great schools, STUDY!
Ok we all get the study to go to a great school thing. But for the kid who was 4'8" and now 5'4" how tall was his parents. Its all genetics the parents and grand parents tell the story 95% of the time. And we are just talking about increasing your odds we are all aware nothing is 100% and luck in also part of everything.
What are the NPYLL teams doing for the Spring now that the league has folded?
Possibly 4 divisions now for the 40+ clubs involved. AA, A, B and C
Possibly 4 divisions now for the 40+ clubs involved. AA, A, B and C
And age restrictions by grade to prevent the kids a full year or two older from distorting true grade based teams? Sounds like there are enough teams that they can say "goodbye" to teams that do not comply. They are a County government sponsored league- should not be about the money or politics but about the kids and what is right. Wonder if their employees who are intertwined with the lacrosse world will step back and see what is in the best interest of the broader group and not just their own or a friend's kids. Plenty of time before the season starts to get it right.
Possibly 4 divisions now for the 40+ clubs involved. AA, A, B and C
And age restrictions by grade to prevent the kids a full year or two older from distorting true grade based teams? Sounds like there are enough teams that they can say "goodbye" to teams that do not comply. They are a County government sponsored league- should not be about the money or politics but about the kids and what is right. Wonder if their employees who are intertwined with the lacrosse world will step back and see what is in the best interest of the broader group and not just their own or a friend's kids. Plenty of time before the season starts to get it right.
All the leagues had age limits just 2 years ago. We are not to far down this Rabbit hole.
Possibly 4 divisions now for the 40+ clubs involved. AA, A, B and C
And age restrictions by grade to prevent the kids a full year or two older from distorting true grade based teams? Sounds like there are enough teams that they can say "goodbye" to teams that do not comply. They are a County government sponsored league- should not be about the money or politics but about the kids and what is right. Wonder if their employees who are intertwined with the lacrosse world will step back and see what is in the best interest of the broader group and not just their own or a friend's kids. Plenty of time before the season starts to get it right.
How can you say there is plenty of time? Tryouts were in late summer/early fall
Possibly 4 divisions now for the 40+ clubs involved. AA, A, B and C
And age restrictions by grade to prevent the kids a full year or two older from distorting true grade based teams? Sounds like there are enough teams that they can say "goodbye" to teams that do not comply. They are a County government sponsored league- should not be about the money or politics but about the kids and what is right. Wonder if their employees who are intertwined with the lacrosse world will step back and see what is in the best interest of the broader group and not just their own or a friend's kids. Plenty of time before the season starts to get it right.
How can you say there is plenty of time? Tryouts were in late summer/early fall
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Well if each team only has 1 to 4 kids who are to old it should not be that hard for them move kids up to the next year above them. And they would have to grandfather in the 2020 kids who are to old because they would have nowhere to play. And to be honest with you the 2020 kids will be recruited this summer anyway so they should really only make the rule for 7th grade and below. You can not have kids in 8th grade with nowhere to play.
Possibly 4 divisions now for the 40+ clubs involved. AA, A, B and C
And age restrictions by grade to prevent the kids a full year or two older from distorting true grade based teams? Sounds like there are enough teams that they can say "goodbye" to teams that do not comply. They are a County government sponsored league- should not be about the money or politics but about the kids and what is right. Wonder if their employees who are intertwined with the lacrosse world will step back and see what is in the best interest of the broader group and not just their own or a friend's kids. Plenty of time before the season starts to get it right.
How can you say there is plenty of time? Tryouts were in late summer/early fall
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Well if each team only has 1 to 4 kids who are to old it should not be that hard for them move kids up to the next year above them. And they would have to grandfather in the 2020 kids who are to old because they would have nowhere to play. And to be honest with you the 2020 kids will be recruited this summer anyway so they should really only make the rule for 7th grade and below. You can not have kids in 8th grade with nowhere to play.
That would be their parents and their coaches' fault and the legitimate kids should not have to deal with that. The kid who is not eligible knows he is not age eligible and has been okay beating up on younger kids. Now the rules to prevent the nonsense can go in and we are supposed to grandfather kids who manipulated the system? 8th grade is old enough for consequences of bad sportsmanship. Find a league without rules similar to what they now have to do for tournaments - you took a chance when you cheated now face up to it.
Possibly 4 divisions now for the 40+ clubs involved. AA, A, B and C
And age restrictions by grade to prevent the kids a full year or two older from distorting true grade based teams? Sounds like there are enough teams that they can say "goodbye" to teams that do not comply. They are a County government sponsored league- should not be about the money or politics but about the kids and what is right. Wonder if their employees who are intertwined with the lacrosse world will step back and see what is in the best interest of the broader group and not just their own or a friend's kids. Plenty of time before the season starts to get it right.
All the leagues had age limits just 2 years ago. We are not to far down this Rabbit hole.
Simple fix - grade based with age restrictions. No logical reason not to do this. Would not have thought it necessary when grade based was introduced but nobody would have guessed how many lack integrity. Any other sport you would have to still play with your age despite your grade.
No college coach cares about that (men or women, lacrosse or any sport). They just want the best recruits per grade. They couldn't care less what the age is.
The only ones who are crying about it are dads whose sons aren't good enough to make it.
Lol the dads who's kids aren't good enough? Your a tool. Right your kid who is 16 playing against 14 yr olds. Right pump your chest saying your kid is great. You people kill me. That's the only way your kid can stand out. Sucks for him.
Lol the dads who's kids aren't good enough? Your a tool. Right your kid who is 16 playing against 14 yr olds. Right pump your chest saying your kid is great. You people kill me. That's the only way your kid can stand out. Sucks for him.
leave the poor guy alone, he was a terrible athlete and couldn't make the rec co-ed dodge ball team (he thought the girls threw to hard). he sets his son up with a false sense of athletic ability, when in reality he is playing against kids 2 years younger. The guy is living life vicariously through his son...he is a sad person who needs help!
Lol the dads who's kids aren't good enough? Your a tool. Right your kid who is 16 playing against 14 yr olds. Right pump your chest saying your kid is great. You people kill me. That's the only way your kid can stand out. Sucks for him.
You're, not your, you idiot.
My son didn't reclass. But unlike you, I didn't put in pantyhose and cry about it.
Put in pantyhose? We could play English class too. Not crying stating a fact. Only way these kids shine is to reclassify period!
Put in pantyhose? We could play English class too. Not crying stating a fact. Only way these kids shine is to reclassify period!
Can't wait for you to start crying about your son in HS being unfairly punished playing against older kids.
Put in pantyhose? We could play English class too. Not crying stating a fact. Only way these kids shine is to reclassify period!
Can't wait for you to start crying about your son in HS being unfairly punished playing against older kids.
Nobody complains about this, it is accepted in high school. Kids playing up isn't the issue, older kids playing down is! Any parent who played sports competitively will tell you the same. Your statement just proves the only thing you were good at in middle and high school was pocketball and sega.
Lol the dads who's kids aren't good enough? Your a tool. Right your kid who is 16 playing against 14 yr olds. Right pump your chest saying your kid is great. You people kill me. That's the only way your kid can stand out. Sucks for him.
You're, not your, you idiot.
My son didn't reclass. But unlike you, I didn't put in pantyhose and cry about it.
Ignore him-same troll from other board calling people a woman and slinging insults. Claims his/her kids were not holdbacks and are in college but still here on the boards talking about an issue that has become more prevalent in recent years in youth lacrosse.
Because I love reading LI dads crying about stuff that doesn't matter. You guys give great material.
Because I love reading LI dads crying about stuff that doesn't matter. You guys give great material.
Almost as entertaining as watching MD parents try to justify their kids playing against Kids 18 months younger than theirs and then brag about their 1 goal OT win against the younger kids.
I'm not from MD, Dad. How's that car port doing?
Because I love reading LI dads crying about stuff that doesn't matter. You guys give great material.
Almost as entertaining as watching MD parents try to justify their kids playing against Kids 18 months younger than theirs and then brag about their 1 goal OT win against the younger kids.
They do it against MD kids too - that team is not particular about who they cheat against.
Because I love reading LI dads crying about stuff that doesn't matter. You guys give great material.
Almost as entertaining as watching MD parents try to justify their kids playing against Kids 18 months younger than theirs and then brag about their 1 goal OT win against the younger kids.
They do it against MD kids too - that team is not particular about who they cheat against.
Top two clubs with no integrity
1 - Crabs
2 - FCA ( Fellowship of cheating athletes)
Because I love reading LI dads crying about stuff that doesn't matter. You guys give great material.
Almost as entertaining as watching MD parents try to justify their kids playing against Kids 18 months younger than theirs and then brag about their 1 goal OT win against the younger kids.
They do it against MD kids too - that team is not particular about who they cheat against.
Top two clubs with no integrity
1 - Crabs
2 - FCA ( Fellowship of cheating athletes)
You can add looneys and Hawks on there too
You can add looneys and Hawks on there too
Says the Dad who can't add in the first place.
Because I love reading LI dads crying about stuff that doesn't matter. You guys give great material.
Almost as entertaining as watching MD parents try to justify their kids playing against Kids 18 months younger than theirs and then brag about their 1 goal OT win against the younger kids.
They do it against MD kids too - that team is not particular about who they cheat against.
Top two clubs with no integrity
1 - Crabs
2 - FCA ( Fellowship of cheating athletes)
You can add looneys and Hawks on there too
Seriously?? Enough is enough!!
I would like someone to tell me one MD club that doesn't "ALLOW" hold backs. Whether it be pre-first kids or kids repeating grades.
Show me a club that doesn't have at least one and I guarantee that it will be a club no kids want to play for.
Every successful club in MD has some hold backs. So who the F is doing all the complaining? Lax World dad? Bitmore dad?
Madlax has the most holdbacks of anyone. Fact.
Because I love reading LI dads crying about stuff that doesn't matter. You guys give great material.
Almost as entertaining as watching MD parents try to justify their kids playing against Kids 18 months younger than theirs and then brag about their 1 goal OT win against the younger kids.
They do it against MD kids too - that team is not particular about who they cheat against.
Top two clubs with no integrity
1 - Crabs
2 - FCA ( Fellowship of cheating athletes)
You can add looneys and Hawks on there too
Seriously?? Enough is enough!!
I would like someone to tell me one MD club that doesn't "ALLOW" hold backs. Whether it be pre-first kids or kids repeating grades.
Show me a club that doesn't have at least one and I guarantee that it will be a club no kids want to play for.
Every successful club in MD has some hold backs. So who the F is doing all the complaining? Lax World dad? Bitmore dad?
Lol at crabby daddy or FCA [lacrosse]. Accept that you all cheat and raise you kids with no morals!
Almost as entertaining as watching MD parents try to justify their kids playing against Kids 18 months younger than theirs and then brag about their 1 goal OT win against the younger kids.
They do it against MD kids too - that team is not particular about who they cheat against.
Top two clubs with no integrity
1 - Crabs
2 - FCA ( Fellowship of cheating athletes)
You can add looneys and Hawks on there too
Seriously?? Enough is enough!!
I would like someone to tell me one MD club that doesn't "ALLOW" hold backs. Whether it be pre-first kids or kids repeating grades.
Show me a club that doesn't have at least one and I guarantee that it will be a club no kids want to play for.
Every successful club in MD has some hold backs. So who the F is doing all the complaining? Lax World dad? Bitmore dad?
Lol at crabby daddy or FCA [lacrosse]. Accept that you all cheat and raise you kids with no morals!
My kid does play for Crabs, but he is on age.
You tell me....Where could I take him that there wouldn't be any holdbacks?
Your smart [lacrosse] [lacrosse] answer didn't answer my question.
If my kid plays for a team that has holdbacks BUT he isn't one of them is he a cheater? Not that I really care what you say, just trying to see how blind with anger you are!
If my kid plays for a team that has holdbacks BUT he isn't one of them is he a cheater? Not that I really care what you say, just trying to see how blind with anger you are!
I agree. That was my point. My son plays for crabs but is on age. They are a good team. They are well coached. He loves his teammates. Is he a cheater?
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me ONE CLUB he could play for that doesn't have any holdbacks.
If that question can't be answered, then everyone here needs to STFU and this conversation should be over.
Here is the problem crab daddy - NO OTHER program games the system like the Crabs. It is part of his strategy to gain an advantage. Without holdbacks his teams are no better than any other of the competitive clubs in the DMV. If you want your kid to be associated with kind of program that is your prerogative. How about posting the birth dates of your 2020 roster. Of course you won't - because you know it's shameful.
I cant wait to see all these kids who are freshmen in high school playing JV and all these parents bitching because an 18yr old senior beat out their kid for Varisty.
Here is the problem crab daddy - NO OTHER program games the system like the Crabs. It is part of his strategy to gain an advantage. Without holdbacks his teams are no better than any other of the competitive clubs in the DMV. If you want your kid to be associated with kind of program that is your prerogative. How about posting the birth dates of your 2020 roster. Of course you won't - because you know it's shameful.
Please enlighten me then. HOw is it that Crabs "games the system" any different than FCA, Hawks, 91 MD, Madlax, Looneys, etc. When I am at Crabs tryouts and talk to the parents, they are there because the kids all want to play for Crabs. If gaming the system means that their success has led them to be the club kids want to play for then I guess they are guilty.
Do you really think that the birthdates for Crabs 2020 roster is really all that much different than Looneys or 91 or Madlax or FCA?
I'm going to ask again:
TELL ME ONE TEAM I COULD TAKE MY SON TO THAT DOESN'T HAVE HOLDBACKS.
It's been a day and still no answer. Because there is no club in MD where that is the case. So why is Crabs singled out?
Does it matter? Every grade of every top club has holdbacks. Do you really think this isn't true?
Obviously I'm talking top clubs. Don't throw out that he could play for Lax World, Wolfpack, Maryland Wild, et.
Who cares? Too much whining about holdbacks. It is what it is. Complaining on forums will not change things. My son is age appropriate. He is not a big kid, but he is very good, even playing against holdbacks. If your son puts in the work and is a good player, he'll have no problems playing against teams with holdbacks. Otherwise, he should be playing on a B team.
Post the crabs 2020 birthdates. You won't because you know how bad it looks. Don't try and deflect to other clubs because none of them do what RM does. Wanna stay on the 2020 team? Sorry bringing down the 2019s - you might want to consider repeating a grade so I can make more money and you can beat up on younger kids. Feels sooooo good. Again - post the birthdates. Crickets...
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
Post the crabs 2020 birthdates. You won't because you know how bad it looks. Don't try and deflect to other clubs because none of them do what RM does. Wanna stay on the 2020 team? Sorry bringing down the 2019s - you might want to consider repeating a grade so I can make more money and you can beat up on younger kids. Feels sooooo good. Again - post the birthdates. Crickets...
I'm sorry. Are you under the impression that those birthdates are just sitting on the website for anyone to grab?
What is your obsession with Crabs 2020? Do you feel like they have an unusual number of holdbacks as compared to other teams? I assume you have a 2020 son that gets beat by them which then leads me to assume you are a Looney's parent. You know damn well your own club has it's fair share of older kids as well, not to mention your Florida based FOGO.
If your son plays for the Crabs ask RM for the roster/birthdates. Seems easy enough to me. You won't because you know the truth. Complete farce.
I actually work in the kitchen at Looney's - everytime Crabs 2020 comes in RM tries to have them order off the kids menu. Obviously - we don't let them.
Who cares? Too much whining about holdbacks. It is what it is. Complaining on forums will not change things. My son is age appropriate. He is not a big kid, but he is very good, even playing against holdbacks. If your son puts in the work and is a good player, he'll have no problems playing against teams with holdbacks. Otherwise, he should be playing on a B team.
the holdback issue needs to be resolved. My son, who is also not a big kid and age appropriate competes on a very good team and does extremely well. The holdbacks don't bother him as much, but that is because he is accustomed to it, however that doesn't make it right! holdbacks and pre-first ruin the integrity of the sport, it needs to end.
Here is the problem crab daddy - NO OTHER program games the system like the Crabs. It is part of his strategy to gain an advantage. Without holdbacks his teams are no better than any other of the competitive clubs in the DMV. If you want your kid to be associated with kind of program that is your prerogative. How about posting the birth dates of your 2020 roster. Of course you won't - because you know it's shameful.
Please enlighten me then. HOw is it that Crabs "games the system" any different than FCA, Hawks, 91 MD, Madlax, Looneys, etc. When I am at Crabs tryouts and talk to the parents, they are there because the kids all want to play for Crabs. If gaming the system means that their success has led them to be the club kids want to play for then I guess they are guilty.
Do you really think that the birthdates for Crabs 2020 roster is really all that much different than Looneys or 91 or Madlax or FCA?
I'm going to ask again:
TELL ME ONE TEAM I COULD TAKE MY SON TO THAT DOESN'T HAVE HOLDBACKS.
It's been a day and still no answer. Because there is no club in MD where that is the case. So why is Crabs singled out?
Hawks 2020, have your son tryout there, you and him won't be labeled a cheater any longer!
Post the crabs 2020 birthdates. You won't because you know how bad it looks. Don't try and deflect to other clubs because none of them do what RM does. Wanna stay on the 2020 team? Sorry bringing down the 2019s - you might want to consider repeating a grade so I can make more money and you can beat up on younger kids. Feels sooooo good. Again - post the birthdates. Crickets...
I'm sorry. Are you under the impression that those birthdates are just sitting on the website for anyone to grab?
What is your obsession with Crabs 2020? Do you feel like they have an unusual number of holdbacks as compared to other teams? I assume you have a 2020 son that gets beat by them which then leads me to assume you are a Looney's parent. You know damn well your own club has it's fair share of older kids as well, not to mention your Florida based FOGO.
FOGO is on age, and it is no different than a kid from PA or VA coming to the Baltimore area for a team. If he and his parents want to compete up here then what do you care? They have the means to do so, so drop it. You issue with the FOGO leads me to believe that you son is a FOGO and can't beat the Florida kid.
The difference between Crabs and all the other clubs (FCA, Looney's, 91) is they have a few older kids, not an entire starting line-up like Crabs! Crabs takes advantage of the situation, abuses it, and makes pigs out of themselves. The other three are guilty as well, but Crabs will eventually have an entire team of older kids, and you will be looking at the other tree as an option or Hawks since you don't like being labeled a cheater.
CRAB parents...how do you feel when the final game is at hand..your son is benched for a GUEST player..of cource older.
See it many times with crabs. Feel bad for the kids benched.
If your son plays for the Crabs ask RM for the roster/birthdates. Seems easy enough to me. You won't because you know the truth. Complete farce.
I actually work in the kitchen at Looney's - everytime Crabs 2020 comes in RM tries to have them order off the kids menu. Obviously - we don't let them.
That hilarious.
I'm sure RM would love me calling him and asking him for that info. Not that there are any privacy concerns or anything like that. Are you serious?
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
doesn't have kids that repeated a grade or doesn't have kids born before 9/1/2001?
Post the crabs 2020 birthdates. You won't because you know how bad it looks. Don't try and deflect to other clubs because none of them do what RM does. Wanna stay on the 2020 team? Sorry bringing down the 2019s - you might want to consider repeating a grade so I can make more money and you can beat up on younger kids. Feels sooooo good. Again - post the birthdates. Crickets...
I'm sorry. Are you under the impression that those birthdates are just sitting on the website for anyone to grab?
What is your obsession with Crabs 2020? Do you feel like they have an unusual number of holdbacks as compared to other teams? I assume you have a 2020 son that gets beat by them which then leads me to assume you are a Looney's parent. You know damn well your own club has it's fair share of older kids as well, not to mention your Florida based FOGO.
FOGO is on age, and it is no different than a kid from PA or VA coming to the Baltimore area for a team. If he and his parents want to compete up here then what do you care? They have the means to do so, so drop it. You issue with the FOGO leads me to believe that you son is a FOGO and can't beat the Florida kid.
The difference between Crabs and all the other clubs (FCA, Looney's, 91) is they have a few older kids, not an entire starting line-up like Crabs! Crabs takes advantage of the situation, abuses it, and makes pigs out of themselves. The other three are guilty as well, but Crabs will eventually have an entire team of older kids, and you will be looking at the other tree as an option or Hawks since you don't like being labeled a cheater.
Does Crabs control what kids come to their tryouts? The truth is, for the most part, every other team takes leftovers that don't make Crabs. Crabs takes the best 22 kids in that grade regardless of age. Guess what?? So does every other club. Do you honestly believe that any club says, "We'd love to take this kid, but we already have 5 older kids on the roster"? Of course not. So it all just comes off as jealousy.
Here is the problem crab daddy - NO OTHER program games the system like the Crabs. It is part of his strategy to gain an advantage. Without holdbacks his teams are no better than any other of the competitive clubs in the DMV. If you want your kid to be associated with kind of program that is your prerogative. How about posting the birth dates of your 2020 roster. Of course you won't - because you know it's shameful.
Please enlighten me then. HOw is it that Crabs "games the system" any different than FCA, Hawks, 91 MD, Madlax, Looneys, etc. When I am at Crabs tryouts and talk to the parents, they are there because the kids all want to play for Crabs. If gaming the system means that their success has led them to be the club kids want to play for then I guess they are guilty.
Do you really think that the birthdates for Crabs 2020 roster is really all that much different than Looneys or 91 or Madlax or FCA?
I'm going to ask again:
TELL ME ONE TEAM I COULD TAKE MY SON TO THAT DOESN'T HAVE HOLDBACKS.
It's been a day and still no answer. Because there is no club in MD where that is the case. So why is Crabs singled out?
Hawks 2020, have your son tryout there, you and him won't be labeled a cheater any longer!
Do you really believe that there is not a single kid with a birthday prior to 9/1/2001 on Hawks 2020? Of course there is
Post the crabs 2020 birthdates. You won't because you know how bad it looks. Don't try and deflect to other clubs because none of them do what RM does. Wanna stay on the 2020 team? Sorry bringing down the 2019s - you might want to consider repeating a grade so I can make more money and you can beat up on younger kids. Feels sooooo good. Again - post the birthdates. Crickets...
I'm sorry. Are you under the impression that those birthdates are just sitting on the website for anyone to grab?
What is your obsession with Crabs 2020? Do you feel like they have an unusual number of holdbacks as compared to other teams? I assume you have a 2020 son that gets beat by them which then leads me to assume you are a Looney's parent. You know damn well your own club has it's fair share of older kids as well, not to mention your Florida based FOGO.
FOGO is on age, and it is no different than a kid from PA or VA coming to the Baltimore area for a team. If he and his parents want to compete up here then what do you care? They have the means to do so, so drop it. You issue with the FOGO leads me to believe that you son is a FOGO and can't beat the Florida kid.
The difference between Crabs and all the other clubs (FCA, Looney's, 91) is they have a few older kids, not an entire starting line-up like Crabs! Crabs takes advantage of the situation, abuses it, and makes pigs out of themselves. The other three are guilty as well, but Crabs will eventually have an entire team of older kids, and you will be looking at the other tree as an option or Hawks since you don't like being labeled a cheater.
Does Crabs control what kids come to their tryouts? The truth is, for the most part, every other team takes leftovers that don't make Crabs. Crabs takes the best 22 kids in that grade regardless of age. Guess what?? So does every other club. Do you honestly believe that any club says, "We'd love to take this kid, but we already have 5 older kids on the roster"? Of course not. So it all just comes off as jealousy.
keep trying to convince yourself that it is ok to cheat, one day you might actually convince yourself it is true! Yes! there are clubs that keep their core group of kids together, regardless if they were the best at tryouts or not.
yes! Crabs do control what kids come out for tryouts! they are invite only...correct?
Here is the problem crab daddy - NO OTHER program games the system like the Crabs. It is part of his strategy to gain an advantage. Without holdbacks his teams are no better than any other of the competitive clubs in the DMV. If you want your kid to be associated with kind of program that is your prerogative. How about posting the birth dates of your 2020 roster. Of course you won't - because you know it's shameful.
Please enlighten me then. HOw is it that Crabs "games the system" any different than FCA, Hawks, 91 MD, Madlax, Looneys, etc. When I am at Crabs tryouts and talk to the parents, they are there because the kids all want to play for Crabs. If gaming the system means that their success has led them to be the club kids want to play for then I guess they are guilty.
Do you really think that the birthdates for Crabs 2020 roster is really all that much different than Looneys or 91 or Madlax or FCA?
I'm going to ask again:
TELL ME ONE TEAM I COULD TAKE MY SON TO THAT DOESN'T HAVE HOLDBACKS.
It's been a day and still no answer. Because there is no club in MD where that is the case. So why is Crabs singled out?
Hawks 2020, have your son tryout there, you and him won't be labeled a cheater any longer!
Do you really believe that there is not a single kid with a birthday prior to 9/1/2001 on Hawks 2020? Of course there is
Yes, you got your answer! Now, do the right thing and tryout there next year! Stop enabling and supporting the cheating!
Here is the problem crab daddy - NO OTHER program games the system like the Crabs. It is part of his strategy to gain an advantage. Without holdbacks his teams are no better than any other of the competitive clubs in the DMV. If you want your kid to be associated with kind of program that is your prerogative. How about posting the birth dates of your 2020 roster. Of course you won't - because you know it's shameful.
Please enlighten me then. HOw is it that Crabs "games the system" any different than FCA, Hawks, 91 MD, Madlax, Looneys, etc. When I am at Crabs tryouts and talk to the parents, they are there because the kids all want to play for Crabs. If gaming the system means that their success has led them to be the club kids want to play for then I guess they are guilty.
Do you really think that the birthdates for Crabs 2020 roster is really all that much different than Looneys or 91 or Madlax or FCA?
I'm going to ask again:
TELL ME ONE TEAM I COULD TAKE MY SON TO THAT DOESN'T HAVE HOLDBACKS.
It's been a day and still no answer. Because there is no club in MD where that is the case. So why is Crabs singled out?
The Crabs roster is certainly much different. The other clubs you mention may have one holdback for whatever reason but the Crabs have made it the norm to have a team full of holdbacks and openly recruit and encourage players to hold back. Those same coaches that you say are so great would not have results much different than the other teams if there were not so many older kids being coached. Any holdback should be playing with their age group and not their class but the Crabs only win because they have loaded their team purposely with holdbacks.
Who cares? Too much whining about holdbacks. It is what it is. Complaining on forums will not change things. My son is age appropriate. He is not a big kid, but he is very good, even playing against holdbacks. If your son puts in the work and is a good player, he'll have no problems playing against teams with holdbacks. Otherwise, he should be playing on a B team.
Why should the kid play on a B team just because holdbacks decided to game the system and take up the A and double A slots just because they are currently bigger, faster, stronger and OLDER. They are not more talented or skilled - they are just bigger and faster and stronger because of their age.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
But they do have older kids that would not qualify if a 9/1/2001 date was re-established. Would miss a few if a 5/1 date was used.
Post the crabs 2020 birthdates. You won't because you know how bad it looks. Don't try and deflect to other clubs because none of them do what RM does. Wanna stay on the 2020 team? Sorry bringing down the 2019s - you might want to consider repeating a grade so I can make more money and you can beat up on younger kids. Feels sooooo good. Again - post the birthdates. Crickets...
I'm sorry. Are you under the impression that those birthdates are just sitting on the website for anyone to grab?
What is your obsession with Crabs 2020? Do you feel like they have an unusual number of holdbacks as compared to other teams? I assume you have a 2020 son that gets beat by them which then leads me to assume you are a Looney's parent. You know damn well your own club has it's fair share of older kids as well, not to mention your Florida based FOGO.
FOGO is on age, and it is no different than a kid from PA or VA coming to the Baltimore area for a team. If he and his parents want to compete up here then what do you care? They have the means to do so, so drop it. You issue with the FOGO leads me to believe that you son is a FOGO and can't beat the Florida kid.
The difference between Crabs and all the other clubs (FCA, Looney's, 91) is they have a few older kids, not an entire starting line-up like Crabs! Crabs takes advantage of the situation, abuses it, and makes pigs out of themselves. The other three are guilty as well, but Crabs will eventually have an entire team of older kids, and you will be looking at the other tree as an option or Hawks since you don't like being labeled a cheater.
Does Crabs control what kids come to their tryouts? The truth is, for the most part, every other team takes leftovers that don't make Crabs. Crabs takes the best 22 kids in that grade regardless of age. Guess what?? So does every other club. Do you honestly believe that any club says, "We'd love to take this kid, but we already have 5 older kids on the roster"? Of course not. So it all just comes off as jealousy.
keep trying to convince yourself that it is ok to cheat, one day you might actually convince yourself it is true! Yes! there are clubs that keep their core group of kids together, regardless if they were the best at tryouts or not.
yes! Crabs do control what kids come out for tryouts! they are invite only...correct?
No. Not correct. Anyone can come to Crabs tryouts. That's why there are so many people there.
And you are kidding yourself if you don't think other clubs aren't willing to bring new kids in if they are better. I don't have to convince myself of anything. my kid is on age. and the kids that are older aren't breaking any rules. Not to mention every other club is doing the same thing.
Don't worry, maybe your son will make crabs next year. Especially now that you know that anyone is welcome to tryout.
Here is the problem crab daddy - NO OTHER program games the system like the Crabs. It is part of his strategy to gain an advantage. Without holdbacks his teams are no better than any other of the competitive clubs in the DMV. If you want your kid to be associated with kind of program that is your prerogative. How about posting the birth dates of your 2020 roster. Of course you won't - because you know it's shameful.
Please enlighten me then. HOw is it that Crabs "games the system" any different than FCA, Hawks, 91 MD, Madlax, Looneys, etc. When I am at Crabs tryouts and talk to the parents, they are there because the kids all want to play for Crabs. If gaming the system means that their success has led them to be the club kids want to play for then I guess they are guilty.
Do you really think that the birthdates for Crabs 2020 roster is really all that much different than Looneys or 91 or Madlax or FCA?
I'm going to ask again:
TELL ME ONE TEAM I COULD TAKE MY SON TO THAT DOESN'T HAVE HOLDBACKS.
It's been a day and still no answer. Because there is no club in MD where that is the case. So why is Crabs singled out?
Hawks 2020, have your son tryout there, you and him won't be labeled a cheater any longer!
Do you really believe that there is not a single kid with a birthday prior to 9/1/2001 on Hawks 2020? Of course there is
Yes, you got your answer! Now, do the right thing and tryout there next year! Stop enabling and supporting the cheating!
That would be a little tough since my son isn't a 2020. I know that other Hawks teams have older kids. You expect me to believe that the 2020 team is the only team around that takes the moral high ground and has no kids born before 9/1/2001? I don't believe that since the other Hawks teams don't seem to mind and Matt Hogan has never been known for his ethics when it comes to lacrosse
Post the crabs 2020 birthdates. You won't because you know how bad it looks. Don't try and deflect to other clubs because none of them do what RM does. Wanna stay on the 2020 team? Sorry bringing down the 2019s - you might want to consider repeating a grade so I can make more money and you can beat up on younger kids. Feels sooooo good. Again - post the birthdates. Crickets...
I'm sorry. Are you under the impression that those birthdates are just sitting on the website for anyone to grab?
What is your obsession with Crabs 2020? Do you feel like they have an unusual number of holdbacks as compared to other teams? I assume you have a 2020 son that gets beat by them which then leads me to assume you are a Looney's parent. You know damn well your own club has it's fair share of older kids as well, not to mention your Florida based FOGO.
FOGO is on age, and it is no different than a kid from PA or VA coming to the Baltimore area for a team. If he and his parents want to compete up here then what do you care? They have the means to do so, so drop it. You issue with the FOGO leads me to believe that you son is a FOGO and can't beat the Florida kid.
The difference between Crabs and all the other clubs (FCA, Looney's, 91) is they have a few older kids, not an entire starting line-up like Crabs! Crabs takes advantage of the situation, abuses it, and makes pigs out of themselves. The other three are guilty as well, but Crabs will eventually have an entire team of older kids, and you will be looking at the other tree as an option or Hawks since you don't like being labeled a cheater.
Does Crabs control what kids come to their tryouts? The truth is, for the most part, every other team takes leftovers that don't make Crabs. Crabs takes the best 22 kids in that grade regardless of age. Guess what?? So does every other club. Do you honestly believe that any club says, "We'd love to take this kid, but we already have 5 older kids on the roster"? Of course not. So it all just comes off as jealousy.
keep trying to convince yourself that it is ok to cheat, one day you might actually convince yourself it is true! Yes! there are clubs that keep their core group of kids together, regardless if they were the best at tryouts or not.
yes! Crabs do control what kids come out for tryouts! they are invite only...correct?
No. Not correct. Anyone can come to Crabs tryouts. That's why there are so many people there.
And you are kidding yourself if you don't think other clubs aren't willing to bring new kids in if they are better. I don't have to convince myself of anything. my kid is on age. and the kids that are older aren't breaking any rules. Not to mention every other club is doing the same thing.
Don't worry, maybe your son will make crabs next year. Especially now that you know that anyone is welcome to tryout.
my kid will never move to Crabs, he was given the option a few years ago but chase to stay with school friends. his team is very competitive and plays well against everybody!
It's a shame people like you pick up for the cheaters, you help them to cheat and give them money to put towards cheating, so YES, I would say you and your kid are cheaters!
Here is the problem crab daddy - NO OTHER program games the system like the Crabs. It is part of his strategy to gain an advantage. Without holdbacks his teams are no better than any other of the competitive clubs in the DMV. If you want your kid to be associated with kind of program that is your prerogative. How about posting the birth dates of your 2020 roster. Of course you won't - because you know it's shameful.
Please enlighten me then. HOw is it that Crabs "games the system" any different than FCA, Hawks, 91 MD, Madlax, Looneys, etc. When I am at Crabs tryouts and talk to the parents, they are there because the kids all want to play for Crabs. If gaming the system means that their success has led them to be the club kids want to play for then I guess they are guilty.
Do you really think that the birthdates for Crabs 2020 roster is really all that much different than Looneys or 91 or Madlax or FCA?
I'm going to ask again:
TELL ME ONE TEAM I COULD TAKE MY SON TO THAT DOESN'T HAVE HOLDBACKS.
It's been a day and still no answer. Because there is no club in MD where that is the case. So why is Crabs singled out?
Hawks 2020, have your son tryout there, you and him won't be labeled a cheater any longer!
Do you really believe that there is not a single kid with a birthday prior to 9/1/2001 on Hawks 2020? Of course there is
Yes, you got your answer! Now, do the right thing and tryout there next year! Stop enabling and supporting the cheating!
That would be a little tough since my son isn't a 2020. I know that other Hawks teams have older kids. You expect me to believe that the 2020 team is the only team around that takes the moral high ground and has no kids born before 9/1/2001? I don't believe that since the other Hawks teams don't seem to mind and Matt Hogan has never been known for his ethics when it comes to lacrosse
Not everybody cheat like your club! I know integrity is something you know nothing about.
Well - if your kid is not a 2020 then I sure as heck hope he is incredibly talented. Once RM starts holding back to 20xx players a year ahead of him - be prepared to either ride the bench or be cut to make room for older kids. That's how he rolls. Starting 2020 goalie and FOGO both cut to make room for 19 holdbacks.
Well - if your kid is not a 2020 then I sure as heck hope he is incredibly talented. Once RM starts holding back to 20xx players a year ahead of him - be prepared to either ride the bench or be cut to make room for older kids. That's how he rolls. Starting 2020 goalie and FOGO both cut to make room for 19 holdbacks.
most of the 2020 Crabs parents aren't intelligent enough to see this coming! By them condoning this they are giving his permission to do it to their own kids.
I'm sorry. Are you under the impression that those birthdates are just sitting on the website for anyone to grab?
What is your obsession with Crabs 2020? Do you feel like they have an unusual number of holdbacks as compared to other teams? I assume you have a 2020 son that gets beat by them which then leads me to assume you are a Looney's parent. You know damn well your own club has it's fair share of older kids as well, not to mention your Florida based FOGO. [/quote]
FOGO is on age, and it is no different than a kid from PA or VA coming to the Baltimore area for a team. If he and his parents want to compete up here then what do you care? They have the means to do so, so drop it. You issue with the FOGO leads me to believe that you son is a FOGO and can't beat the Florida kid.
The difference between Crabs and all the other clubs (FCA, Looney's, 91) is they have a few older kids, not an entire starting line-up like Crabs! Crabs takes advantage of the situation, abuses it, and makes pigs out of themselves. The other three are guilty as well, but Crabs will eventually have an entire team of older kids, and you will be looking at the other tree as an option or Hawks since you don't like being labeled a cheater. [/quote]
Does Crabs control what kids come to their tryouts? The truth is, for the most part, every other team takes leftovers that don't make Crabs. Crabs takes the best 22 kids in that grade regardless of age. Guess what?? So does every other club. Do you honestly believe that any club says, "We'd love to take this kid, but we already have 5 older kids on the roster"? Of course not. So it all just comes off as jealousy. [/quote]
keep trying to convince yourself that it is ok to cheat, one day you might actually convince yourself it is true! Yes! there are clubs that keep their core group of kids together, regardless if they were the best at tryouts or not.
yes! Crabs do control what kids come out for tryouts! they are invite only...correct?[/quote]
No. Not correct. Anyone can come to Crabs tryouts. That's why there are so many people there.
And you are kidding yourself if you don't think other clubs aren't willing to bring new kids in if they are better. I don't have to convince myself of anything. my kid is on age. and the kids that are older aren't breaking any rules. Not to mention every other club is doing the same thing.
Don't worry, maybe your son will make crabs next year. Especially now that you know that anyone is welcome to tryout. [/quote]
my kid will never move to Crabs, he was given the option a few years ago but chase to stay with school friends. his team is very competitive and plays well against everybody!
It's a shame people like you pick up for the cheaters, you help them to cheat and give them money to put towards cheating, so YES, I would say you and your kid are cheaters! [/quote]
what club does your son play for?
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
In youth sports, kids should play with their age. If they went to pre-first, they would need to play with kids their own age not necessarily their grade- pre first and hold backs have the same result that the kids are a year older-it does not matter when or why they do it but they are physically more advanced and at the youth level, it makes a huge difference. There is one cut off date that everyone should be held to. Unfortunately lacrosse used to have this and left the model at the wish of a select few. Every other sport has an age requirement and sometimes it means you do not play with kids in your grade.
The great thing about holdbacks is when the very good 7th grade kid realizes he won't play his 8th grade year (see Crabs) because of the frosh. who repeat in front of him they find new teams. I see it happen every year.
Note. Not as many MD Lax parents allow their child to holdback as many claim (see L.I. Parents). Lose with dignity.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
if you are born in the summer and you do pre-first that isn't issue since it was done academic reasons. however, you should still compete against the kids your age, not your grade.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
In youth sports, kids should play with their age. If they went to pre-first, they would need to play with kids their own age not necessarily their grade- pre first and hold backs have the same result that the kids are a year older-it does not matter when or why they do it but they are physically more advanced and at the youth level, it makes a huge difference. There is one cut off date that everyone should be held to. Unfortunately lacrosse used to have this and left the model at the wish of a select few. Every other sport has an age requirement and sometimes it means you do not play with kids in your grade.
That's so stupid on so many levels. So you are saying that a pre-first kid with a spring birthday shouldn't be allowed to play youth lacrosse with his friends that he goes to school with??? Seriously that is your stance? When did this sport get to be so jaded? You'd rather them have to play with kids they don't know? That would be fun for them.
I get the issue with kids repeating 8th grade. I do. But bitching and whining about pre-firsts is taking it to a whole new level. Is it really too much to ask a 6th grader or 7th grader to play against someone 4-8 months older? How did these kids ever play rec in U-11 or U-13?
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
In youth sports, kids should play with their age. If they went to pre-first, they would need to play with kids their own age not necessarily their grade- pre first and hold backs have the same result that the kids are a year older-it does not matter when or why they do it but they are physically more advanced and at the youth level, it makes a huge difference. There is one cut off date that everyone should be held to. Unfortunately lacrosse used to have this and left the model at the wish of a select few. Every other sport has an age requirement and sometimes it means you do not play with kids in your grade.
That's so stupid on so many levels. So you are saying that a pre-first kid with a spring birthday shouldn't be allowed to play youth lacrosse with his friends that he goes to school with??? Seriously that is your stance? When did this sport get to be so jaded? You'd rather them have to play with kids they don't know? That would be fun for them.
I get the issue with kids repeating 8th grade. I do. But bitching and whining about pre-firsts is taking it to a whole new level. Is it really too much to ask a 6th grader or 7th grader to play against someone 4-8 months older? How did these kids ever play rec in U-11 or U-13?
all things being equal height/weight/athletic ability, what is the difference between the kid born June/2001 who did pre-first and the kid born June/2001 who repeated 8th grade?
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
In youth sports, kids should play with their age. If they went to pre-first, they would need to play with kids their own age not necessarily their grade- pre first and hold backs have the same result that the kids are a year older-it does not matter when or why they do it but they are physically more advanced and at the youth level, it makes a huge difference. There is one cut off date that everyone should be held to. Unfortunately lacrosse used to have this and left the model at the wish of a select few. Every other sport has an age requirement and sometimes it means you do not play with kids in your grade.
Lacrosse never had a single year cut-off. In fact, I would argue the every other year cutoff (U13,U11,U9) is much more screwed up than the graduation year cut off. Now if lacrosse ever had a single year cutoff (U13, U12, U11,U10,U9), I would fully support it - but until then, graduation years work better.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
In youth sports, kids should play with their age. If they went to pre-first, they would need to play with kids their own age not necessarily their grade- pre first and hold backs have the same result that the kids are a year older-it does not matter when or why they do it but they are physically more advanced and at the youth level, it makes a huge difference. There is one cut off date that everyone should be held to. Unfortunately lacrosse used to have this and left the model at the wish of a select few. Every other sport has an age requirement and sometimes it means you do not play with kids in your grade.
That's so stupid on so many levels. So you are saying that a pre-first kid with a spring birthday shouldn't be allowed to play youth lacrosse with his friends that he goes to school with??? Seriously that is your stance? When did this sport get to be so jaded? You'd rather them have to play with kids they don't know? That would be fun for them.
I get the issue with kids repeating 8th grade. I do. But bitching and whining about pre-firsts is taking it to a whole new level. Is it really too much to ask a 6th grader or 7th grader to play against someone 4-8 months older? How did these kids ever play rec in U-11 or U-13?
It is the way it works with every other sport and yes, it does mean that kids do not always play with their buddies but kids need to play with their age. The cut off has to be somewhere.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
In youth sports, kids should play with their age. If they went to pre-first, they would need to play with kids their own age not necessarily their grade- pre first and hold backs have the same result that the kids are a year older-it does not matter when or why they do it but they are physically more advanced and at the youth level, it makes a huge difference. There is one cut off date that everyone should be held to. Unfortunately lacrosse used to have this and left the model at the wish of a select few. Every other sport has an age requirement and sometimes it means you do not play with kids in your grade.
That's so stupid on so many levels. So you are saying that a pre-first kid with a spring birthday shouldn't be allowed to play youth lacrosse with his friends that he goes to school with??? Seriously that is your stance? When did this sport get to be so jaded? You'd rather them have to play with kids they don't know? That would be fun for them.
I get the issue with kids repeating 8th grade. I do. But bitching and whining about pre-firsts is taking it to a whole new level. Is it really too much to ask a 6th grader or 7th grader to play against someone 4-8 months older? How did these kids ever play rec in U-11 or U-13?
all things being equal height/weight/athletic ability, what is the difference between the kid born June/2001 who did pre-first and the kid born June/2001 who repeated 8th grade?
Exactly - the reason for why they are older does not matter. The fact that they are older is what matters and should be with kids their own age.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
doesn't have kids that repeated a grade or doesn't have kids born before 9/1/2001?
Not true. Their goalie is a holdback.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
doesn't have kids that repeated a grade or doesn't have kids born before 9/1/2001?
Not true. Their goalie is a holdback.
Ah, same as FCA and Crabs
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
My son was born in Oct of 2000. The oldest boy on his team did a pre-first year and was born in June of 2000. He also has teammates that were born in the spring and summer of 2001. That seems pretty balanced. If not, what is the appropriate cut off date?
I believe most people say a kid is reclassed if they are not in the age-appropriate grade: so depending on the state you live in if you started school at 5 years old you are "on-age" if you started at 6 you are reclassed. And then some people also repeat a grade to gain an advantage, these are also reclassed. I live in PA, so anyone born before 9/1 is considered reclassed. I will say, from my experience, most top clubs have about 50% of their players that are reclassed.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
My son was born in Oct of 2000. The oldest boy on his team did a pre-first year and was born in June of 2000. He also has teammates that were born in the spring and summer of 2001. That seems pretty balanced. If not, what is the appropriate cut off date?
My son April 2001 and plays on a 2019 team. Please tell me how he is not getting screwed. Or at least last year please tell me how he was not getting the high hard one?
IMHO - I don't have a problem with pre-first kids. I do have a problem with the kids that repeat 8th grade to gain a physical advantage. When you include the kids that do both - it's really unfair and unsafe. Just go back to age based teams up to 8th grade and the problem is solved. At the very least - grade based - with an age cutoff.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
My son was born in Oct of 2000. The oldest boy on his team did a pre-first year and was born in June of 2000. He also has teammates that were born in the spring and summer of 2001. That seems pretty balanced. If not, what is the appropriate cut off date?
My son April 2001 and plays on a 2019 team. Please tell me how he is not getting screwed. Or at least last year please tell me how he was not getting the high hard one?
Your son is age appropriate
IMHO - I don't have a problem with pre-first kids. I do have a problem with the kids that repeat 8th grade to gain a physical advantage. When you include the kids that do both - it's really unfair and unsafe. Just go back to age based teams up to 8th grade and the problem is solved. At the very least - grade based - with an age cutoff.
Again, all things equal height/weight/athletic ability, what is the difference between a current 8th grader born June!2001 who attended pre-first an a current 8th grader born June/2001 who was held back? There is no difference! Both kids should be playing with a 2019 team.
My son has a December 2001 birthday, on age for lax 2020. The birthday sucks for his other sports that go by calendar year, but he is age appropriate for the others since those sports gave a backbone and enforce age groups.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
My son was born in Oct of 2000. The oldest boy on his team did a pre-first year and was born in June of 2000. He also has teammates that were born in the spring and summer of 2001. That seems pretty balanced. If not, what is the appropriate cut off date?
My son April 2001 and plays on a 2019 team. Please tell me how he is not getting screwed. Or at least last year please tell me how he was not getting the high hard one?
Your son is age appropriate
I agree so lets do the math on how much older a kid is who did pre first or was a reclass. That is what I want to see written out for everyone to see.
Simply put: a unfair advantage for one kid is a unfair disadvantage for another kid! How do the proper on age kids feel that are good enough to make the Crabs, but are relegated to being a role player instead of a starter due to the more advanced holdbacks which probably comprise 50% of the roster? I am sure those kids and parents are biting their tongues about the inequity of it.
I go back and forth about this. I feel false confidence is what causes kids to quit. The reality is, our kids will have to beat out a hold-back or pre- first or reclass kid when they get to high school. So why not start dealing with it in 5th to 8th grade.
[quote=Anonymous]Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
My son was born in Oct of 2000. The oldest boy on his team did a pre-first year and was born in June of 2000. He also has teammates that were born in the spring and summer of 2001. That seems pretty balanced. If not, what is the appropriate cut off date?
My son April 2001 and plays on a 2019 team. Please tell me how he is not getting screwed. Or at least last year please tell me how he was not getting the high hard one?
I agree so lets do the math on how much older a kid is who did pre first or was a reclass. That is what I want to see written out for everyone to see.
The vast majority of the pre firsts have summer birthdays so they would be not quite a year older than your son. There may be a couple of reclassed kids that are more than a year older than your son but they would be pretty rare. It would be extremely unlikely they would be more than 19 months older than your son as they would run into eligibility issues their senior year of high school.
Basically your son isn't getting disadvantaged any more than a July or August birthday kid would be disadvantaged if 9/1 was an enforced cut off.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
My son was born in Oct of 2000. The oldest boy on his team did a pre-first year and was born in June of 2000. He also has teammates that were born in the spring and summer of 2001. That seems pretty balanced. If not, what is the appropriate cut off date?
My son April 2001 and plays on a 2019 team. Please tell me how he is not getting screwed. Or at least last year please tell me how he was not getting the high hard one?
There are several players on my son's team your son's age and younger. Yes there are older players too. Again, what is the appropriate cutoff?
I go back and forth about this. I feel false confidence is what causes kids to quit. The reality is, our kids will have to beat out a hold-back or pre- first or reclass kid when they get to high school. So why not start dealing with it in 5th to 8th grade.
Because 5th - 8th they are still learning the game and figuring out things about themselves. Let it wait till high school, what is the hurry? Let kids play on age with their piers, not kids a year older or more.
The kids will have plenty of time in high school, college, and life thereafter to compete with older and younger people. For now, let them be kids and compete against piers of their own age.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
My son was born in Oct of 2000. The oldest boy on his team did a pre-first year and was born in June of 2000. He also has teammates that were born in the spring and summer of 2001. That seems pretty balanced. If not, what is the appropriate cut off date?
My son April 2001 and plays on a 2019 team. Please tell me how he is not getting screwed. Or at least last year please tell me how he was not getting the high hard one?
There are several players on my son's team your son's age and younger. Yes there are older players too. Again, what is the appropriate cutoff?
If you want to make collage coaches happy the 9/1 - 8/31! If you say forget them, go calander year 1/1 - 12/31
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
My son was born in Oct of 2000. The oldest boy on his team did a pre-first year and was born in June of 2000. He also has teammates that were born in the spring and summer of 2001. That seems pretty balanced. If not, what is the appropriate cut off date?
Does your son play 2020 or 2019? If he's 2019 I don't have a huge problem with the June 2000 but some do. I personally think that they should have a June 1 or July 1 cutoff.
you are welcome sunshine!
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
My son was born in Oct of 2000. The oldest boy on his team did a pre-first year and was born in June of 2000. He also has teammates that were born in the spring and summer of 2001. That seems pretty balanced. If not, what is the appropriate cut off date?
if your son is 2019 then he is age appropriate, the other kid should be 2018.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
My son was born in Oct of 2000. The oldest boy on his team did a pre-first year and was born in June of 2000. He also has teammates that were born in the spring and summer of 2001. That seems pretty balanced. If not, what is the appropriate cut off date?
if your son is 2019 then he is age appropriate, the other kid should be 2018.
I think the best compromise is to have a 12 month window for the teams 7th grade and below. And then when you hit the 8th grade and above range it should be by what grade you are in no matter how old you are. The point being these grades are the recruitment ages like it or not. But we all can agree that 7th grade and below are not being recruited hard. And if you have a 7th grade stud on age play him up with the 8th graders to be looked at.
Hawks 2020 does not have any reclassified kids.
True statement!
A lot of the teams do not have reclassified kids. Reclassified means that you repeated a grade, likely 8th, for the sole purpose of gaining an advantage in athletics. I get where that rubs people the wrong way. What I don't understand is the issue with pre-first kids. A ton of my son's friends did pre-first so they would not be young for their grade. I have never understood the issue there.
My son was born in Oct of 2000. The oldest boy on his team did a pre-first year and was born in June of 2000. He also has teammates that were born in the spring and summer of 2001. That seems pretty balanced. If not, what is the appropriate cut off date?
if your son is 2019 then he is age appropriate, the other kid should be 2018.
I think the best compromise is to have a 12 month window for the teams 7th grade and below. And then when you hit the 8th grade and above range it should be by what grade you are in no matter how old you are. The point being these grades are the recruitment ages like it or not. But we all can agree that 7th grade and below are not being recruited hard. And if you have a 7th grade stud on age play him up with the 8th graders to be looked at.
OMG ... 7th grade stud? Move him up so he can be looked at? ... Yeah ... this early recruiting mess will change itself soon... The professional desires of a college coach and the adolescent desires if a 14 year old kid are not on parallel tracks ... I have hope that this will become clear to everyone in the next few years when these verbal "commitments" start falling apart.
IMO - A boy should be playing for his friends and the ladies until 11th grade ... not college coaches. What a mess.
I agree but the word I used was compromise. They should move the contact date back to Jan 1. of soph. year not JR. year and not allow anyone to contact anyone until this soph. year
I agree but the word I used was compromise. They should move the contact date back to Jan 1. of soph. year not JR. year and not allow anyone to contact anyone until this soph. year
Moving the date back to the Sophomore year will let the colleges get ahead early and get the best players locked up to a school. But the big rule has to be no one can talk to anyone until this Soph. date. So this will force the parents and kids into making the high school team and showing well before you even start to think about College. I think this is the best idea to keep both sides happy.
The DI men's coaches voted by a resounding show of hands Friday afternoon to significantly limit early recruiting, supporting a ban on contact between coaches and recruits prior to September 1 of prospects' junior year of high school, members of the IMCLA's Executive Board told Inside Lacrosse.
The coaches voted to move it back to Sept.1 of Junior year. Why do those on this board think that they know better.
The DI men's coaches voted by a resounding show of hands Friday afternoon to significantly limit early recruiting, supporting a ban on contact between coaches and recruits prior to September 1 of prospects' junior year of high school, members of the IMCLA's Executive Board told Inside Lacrosse.
The coaches voted to move it back to Sept.1 of Junior year. Why do those on this board think that they know better.
Because their sense of self entitlement! They think money can buy anything.
The DI men's coaches voted by a resounding show of hands Friday afternoon to significantly limit early recruiting, supporting a ban on contact between coaches and recruits prior to September 1 of prospects' junior year of high school, members of the IMCLA's Executive Board told Inside Lacrosse.
The coaches voted to move it back to Sept.1 of Junior year. Why do those on this board think that they know better.
Because their sense of self entitlement! They think money can buy anything.
And you think coaches won't be contacting club coaches of 8th or 9th graders despite the rules? Nothing will change except Ty Xanders' tweets about HS freshman commits
The DI men's coaches voted by a resounding show of hands Friday afternoon to significantly limit early recruiting, supporting a ban on contact between coaches and recruits prior to September 1 of prospects' junior year of high school, members of the IMCLA's Executive Board told Inside Lacrosse.
The coaches voted to move it back to Sept.1 of Junior year. Why do those on this board think that they know better.
Because their sense of self entitlement! They think money can buy anything.
And you think coaches won't be contacting club coaches of 8th or 9th graders despite the rules? Nothing will change except Ty Xanders' tweets about HS freshman commits
I talked to a D1 assistant coach when this came out and he said he hopes that this goes through and is upheld. They hate recruiting kids this young because it is such a crap shoot. They do it because everyone else is doing it.
The DI men's coaches voted by a resounding show of hands Friday afternoon to significantly limit early recruiting, supporting a ban on contact between coaches and recruits prior to September 1 of prospects' junior year of high school, members of the IMCLA's Executive Board told Inside Lacrosse.
The coaches voted to move it back to Sept.1 of Junior year. Why do those on this board think that they know better.
Because their sense of self entitlement! They think money can buy anything.
And you think coaches won't be contacting club coaches of 8th or 9th graders despite the rules? Nothing will change except Ty Xanders' tweets about HS freshman commits
Yes, only crabs break rules
The DI men's coaches voted by a resounding show of hands Friday afternoon to significantly limit early recruiting, supporting a ban on contact between coaches and recruits prior to September 1 of prospects' junior year of high school, members of the IMCLA's Executive Board told Inside Lacrosse.
The coaches voted to move it back to Sept.1 of Junior year. Why do those on this board think that they know better.
If they stick to no one talking to anyone before this date it can work. But no contact on any kind causes a extreme rush to find a school. It happens in football a lot because they wait to sign and find guys a lot later. So the kids do not have to time to really see who is signing where. If you do Soph. year it gives the 8 to 12 kid per class to really look over the kids in each teams class so they pick the correct school for them. The rules do not work in the kids favor when it comes to changing their mind. I think 99% would agree that 9th and 8th graders are to young. But the top 20% of Soph. are what they are and should be good players if they are great as a Soph.
The DI men's coaches voted by a resounding show of hands Friday afternoon to significantly limit early recruiting, supporting a ban on contact between coaches and recruits prior to September 1 of prospects' junior year of high school, members of the IMCLA's Executive Board told Inside Lacrosse.
The coaches voted to move it back to Sept.1 of Junior year. Why do those on this board think that they know better.
Because their sense of self entitlement! They think money can buy anything.
And you think coaches won't be contacting club coaches of 8th or 9th graders despite the rules? Nothing will change except Ty Xanders' tweets about HS freshman commits
Yes, only crabs break rules
Crabs don't break the rules, Crabs make the rules!!!! Going to be a busy spring if you are a Crab!
The DI men's coaches voted by a resounding show of hands Friday afternoon to significantly limit early recruiting, supporting a ban on contact between coaches and recruits prior to September 1 of prospects' junior year of high school, members of the IMCLA's Executive Board told Inside Lacrosse.
The coaches voted to move it back to Sept.1 of Junior year. Why do those on this board think that they know better.
If they stick to no one talking to anyone before this date it can work. But no contact on any kind causes a extreme rush to find a school. It happens in football a lot because they wait to sign and find guys a lot later. So the kids do not have to time to really see who is signing where. If you do Soph. year it gives the 8 to 12 kid per class to really look over the kids in each teams class so they pick the correct school for them. The rules do not work in the kids favor when it comes to changing their mind. I think 99% would agree that 9th and 8th graders are to young. But the top 20% of Soph. are what they are and should be good players if they are great as a Soph.
obviously you know much more than NCAA coaches, so sure whatever floats your boat.
Coaches will continue ER until it is clear they will get into NCAA trouble. Until the NCAA implements the new cutoff date rule, and athletic department NCAA compliance people are checking their teams, ER will be the norm.
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
2022 - Cannons and Rough Riders exchanging wins with the Goals House team (a few Hawks and Bitmore kids) contending.
The MMILL (Soccer Stop - Outdoor played indoor with no faceoffs) league is shaping up like:
U15 - Cannons and Swarm at the top
U13 - Hawks 2022 at the top with Bethesda 2021, Rough Riders 2021, Hawks Black 2021, Cannons close behind.
U11 - Bethesda Sidewinders, and South River tied at the top.
Great indoor action.
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
2022 - Cannons and Rough Riders exchanging wins with the Goals House team (a few Hawks and Bitmore kids) contending.
The MMILL (Soccer Stop - Outdoor played indoor with no faceoffs) league is shaping up like:
U15 - Cannons and Swarm at the top
U13 - Hawks 2022 at the top with Bethesda 2021, Rough Riders 2021, Hawks Black 2021, Cannons close behind.
U11 - Bethesda Sidewinders, and South River tied at the top.
Great indoor action.
Nobody cares.
Force may not even make the playoffs in indoor.
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
2022 - Cannons and Rough Riders exchanging wins with the Goals House team (a few Hawks and Bitmore kids) contending.
The MMILL (Soccer Stop - Outdoor played indoor with no faceoffs) league is shaping up like:
U15 - Cannons and Swarm at the top
U13 - Hawks 2022 at the top with Bethesda 2021, Rough Riders 2021, Hawks Black 2021, Cannons close behind.
U11 - Bethesda Sidewinders, and South River tied at the top.
Great indoor action.
Nobody cares.
Yes, no one cares how well the kids and teams are playing. We just want to complain about colleges recruiting freshmen and older kids playing down against younger kids.
Nobody cares says cry baby Loonies parent
Nobody cares says cry baby Loonies parent
This post clearly sounds like a Crab parent or fan. They will do everything and anything to direct attention to another club and away from the corrupt Crabs organization. Plus I believe the poster of all of this box info is a Hawk parent/fan.
Nobody cares says cry baby Loonies parent
Thanks crabby daddy, why didn't you guys enter the league? Must be afraid of the competition!
Nobody cares except to FOGO who flies up from Florida to play box lax
Nobody cares except to FOGO who flies up from Florida to play box lax
Apparently some people do! Sorry your team chose not to compete! You'll probably find the same thing occur to you guys in the spring/summer...you cant compete!
I only saw the fogo one time.
FoGo was in town one time for training,...give it a break hater .
BS. I bet he is there for the Championship game. You Loonies parents are as bad as the Crabs parents. Whine when you lose - gloat when you win.
BS. I bet he is there for the Championship game. You Loonies parents are as bad as the Crabs parents. Whine when you lose - gloat when you win.
Stop hating crybaby! Your son must be a fogo who gets beat all the time, only reason for your incessant whining.
Nobody cares says cry baby Loonies parent
This post clearly sounds like a Crab parent or fan. They will do everything and anything to direct attention to another club and away from the corrupt Crabs organization. Plus I believe the poster of all of this box info is a Hawk parent/fan.
This post clearly sounds like a parent of a kid cut from Crabs that will turn any discussion into a bitchfest about Crabs having a couple more hold backs than every other team in the area.
Nobody cares says cry baby Loonies parent
This post clearly sounds like a Crab parent or fan. They will do everything and anything to direct attention to another club and away from the corrupt Crabs organization. Plus I believe the poster of all of this box info is a Hawk parent/fan.
This post clearly sounds like a parent of a kid cut from Crabs that will turn any discussion into a bitchfest about Crabs having a couple more hold backs than every other team in the area.
When half your team should be 2019 it is an honest statement.
A Hawks parent. Really. What leads you to that conclusion there Sherlock?
Laughing at you right now.
A Hawks parent. Really. What leads you to that conclusion there Sherlock?
Laughing at you right now.
Well, let me tell you Dr Watson. A few weeks ago someone was mentioning how well Hawks was doing in indoor league. Nothing wrong with that, the same as nothing wrong with me mentioning that it is most likely a Hawks parent/fan bringing this up. But people like you have to get sideways when their team is mentioned, yet not in a bad way, but they still get sideways, just like you did with your sarcastic post.
No, I'm not laughing at you, I'm shaking my head figuring what a jerk you must be for being so sensitive and ready to have a hissy fit. Grow up.
Nobody cares says cry baby Loonies parent
This post clearly sounds like a Crab parent or fan. They will do everything and anything to direct attention to another club and away from the corrupt Crabs organization. Plus I believe the poster of all of this box info is a Hawk parent/fan.
This post clearly sounds like a parent of a kid cut from Crabs that will turn any discussion into a bitchfest about Crabs having a couple more hold backs than every other team in the area.
A bitchfest, really. You know damn well that Crabs 2020 and 2021, more than half of their players are holdbacks and 2020 has a few double holdbacks. But keep telling yourself that it is ok to teach you son to cheat to get ahead. And no, my son was never cut from Crabs, he would never want to be associated with that corrupt organization. He has much more integrity than you or your son. Trust me, one of these days Ryan M's organization will come crashing down around his ears and he will be lost without "playing" the system. He knows no other way to win but to game the system.
When half your team should be 2019 it is an honest statement.
Hawks has had a great indoor season but let's not carried away. It is indoor and good fun for the boys but most teams do not take it seriously-it is a way to keep a stick in their hand during the winter. Once again the parents putting more on it then it is. Hawks to their credit have played with almost full rosters-maybe due to their relative closeness to Goals or maybe they don't have as many training opportunities as some of the other teams off season. Some of the teams playing are combo A/AA teams, some have had 7-9 players at games, some games have been holiday weekends when families are away for Christmas or MLK day. Hawks have done well and should be proud but it really is just indoor and their putting these messages out is a bit transparent.
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams.
Thanks for a real, FAIR review.
Indoor is fun...nothing more..
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams.
Have you considered actually going out and living your own life?
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams.
Have you considered actually going out and living your own life?
Bizarre response. Guess your team was mentioned...
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams.
Have you considered actually going out and living your own life?
you're on this site. what is it that you would like discussed? the guy posted reasonable assessment of the box league.
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams.
thanks for the unbiased review! any idea how many kids left Rough Riders and where they went?
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams.
thanks for the unbiased review! any idea how many kids left Rough Riders and where they went?
3 went to Looneys Orange and one went to Looneys green. They also lost another possibly to FCA but not sure about that one. Looneys Orange will be fine once they get on the field with full team and 91 is talented if they can control the showboating, share the ball and play with discipline.
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams.
thanks for the unbiased review! any idea how many kids left Rough Riders and where they went?
3 went to Looneys Orange and one went to Looneys green. They also lost another possibly to FCA but not sure about that one. Looneys Orange will be fine once they get on the field with full team and 91 is talented if they can control the showboating, share the ball and play with discipline.
wonder if Rough Riders will compete at the "A" level this spring rather than "AA".
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams.
thanks for the unbiased review! any idea how many kids left Rough Riders and where they went?
3 went to Looneys Orange and one went to Looneys green. They also lost another possibly to FCA but not sure about that one. Looneys Orange will be fine once they get on the field with full team and 91 is talented if they can control the showboating, share the ball and play with discipline.
wonder if Rough Riders will compete at the "A" level this spring rather than "AA".
Not with losing that many players.
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams. [/quote]
thanks for the unbiased review! any idea how many kids left Rough Riders and where they went?[/quote]
3 went to Looneys Orange and one went to Looneys green. They also lost another possibly to FCA but not sure about that one. Looneys Orange will be fine once they get on the field with full team and 91 is talented if they can control the showboating, share the ball and play with discipline. [/quote]
wonder if Rough Riders will compete at the "A" level this spring rather than "AA". [/quote]
Not with losing that many players. [/quote]
Last year there wasn't a 2020 AA because only a few teams would declare as such. If it's only 4 or 5 teams in AA, they may blend in the AA with A again. Lots of lopsided games. It would be better if all of the traditionally AA teams played in AA. There should be a AA division of at 8-10 teams. There would be some teams that aren't going to vie for a title, but there would be plenty of competitive games. If RR goes in as AA and it's them and the 3-4 top AA teams, no fair and no fun for RR. But if several others at the same level go in as AA than those teams would have a couple matches with the top teams and the rest against similar opponents. There's a trickle down effect if everyone tries to enter in the division that they can win rather than where they can be competitive. There would be mid-level A teams that go into B. It's better to go 2-4 against top competition than 6-0 against lesser.
Out of the first 20 players drafted to the MLL over the weekend: six transferred in college, three changed commitments in HS and four PG'ed
And none of them are making over $50k playing while paying their own travel expenses to play. LOL.
And none of them are making over $50k playing while paying their own travel expenses to play. LOL.
They don't pay for travel but certainly don't make much money. Probably average $1000-$1500 game if they are game day actives. They all have other jobs, either inside lax or professional. Looks like it would be fun for a few years. Wish it was around in the 90s. Not sure I understand the hate on MLL.
And none of them are making over $50k playing while paying their own travel expenses to play. LOL.
Above poster is an idiot (too many on this site). MLL provides some level of entertainment for the fans of the game and an opportunity for the most talented college players to extend their careers. Yes, the pay isn't huge, but most play for the love of it. The original writer of the post prob makes $50k per year and his son has gotten passed over in the recruiting process. Why so bitter?
And none of them are making over $50k playing while paying their own travel expenses to play. LOL.
Above poster is an idiot (too many on this site). MLL provides some level of entertainment for the fans of the game and an opportunity for the most talented college players to extend their careers. Yes, the pay isn't huge, but most play for the love of it. The original writer of the post prob makes $50k per year and his son has gotten passed over in the recruiting process. Why so bitter?
More like a realist. Actually played D1 in the late 80's early 90's. Not bitter, just entertained by the parents going nuts over recruiting, middle school studs who have not hit puberty, and rich white people. BTW passed 50k about 20 years ago. Enjoy.
I enjoy the MLL as well. I really like seeing the college names that made headlines play pro. So sorry for having interest different from yours.
Quit being a hater.
Who uses the word "hater"? Are you one of those middle school recruits off because of the snow?
The MD kids who made the U19 squad, what clubs did they play for and what clubs is most represented?
The MD kids who made the U19 squad, what clubs did they play for and what clubs is most represented?
Conrad, Roesner and Costabile played for Looneys. Kelly FCA of course. Pezzulla Breakers. Not sure about the G-town prep kid.
Thanks for a real, FAIR review.
Indoor is fun...nothing more..
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams.
Agree, Looneys Orange will be back to their full strength in spring, RR may consider moving down, 91 played undisciplined full field in the fall with defenders and goalies trying to play offense and team not trying to find their open man. Looneys Green will play A. Should be a great spring with everyone in the same league.
The MD kids who made the U19 squad, what clubs did they play for and what clubs is most represented?
Conrad, Roesner and Costabile played for Looneys. Kelly FCA of course. Pezzulla Breakers. Not sure about the G-town prep kid.
No Crabs or Madlax? My Heart be still.
The MD kids who made the U19 squad, what clubs did they play for and what clubs is most represented?
Conrad, Roesner and Costabile played for Looneys. Kelly FCA of course. Pezzulla Breakers. Not sure about the G-town prep kid.
No Crabs or Madlax? My Heart be still.
Those U19 kids are the top 1% of the top 1% of players. There is no club breeding or making them into that spot. They would be on this U19 team no matter where they played.
The MD kids who made the U19 squad, what clubs did they play for and what clubs is most represented?
Conrad, Roesner and Costabile played for Looneys. Kelly FCA of course. Pezzulla Breakers. Not sure about the G-town prep kid.
No Crabs or Madlax? My Heart be still.
Those U19 kids are the top 1% of the top 1% of players. There is no club breeding or making them into that spot. They would be on this U19 team no matter where they played.
Although not club related, I did hear some people griping about the coaches picking kids that were going to their schools and not necessarily the best kids. You can't make everyone happy.
3 each from Penn, Penn State and Ohio State where the coaches are from. 9 of the 25 seems a bit high but who knows. We'll see in Canada.
Men's Lacrosse
High school men's lacrosse players: 162,416
Division I programs: 61
NCAA-mandated maximum number of scholarships per program (over four years): 12.6
Average scholarships per program per year: 3.15
Average players per recruiting class: 12
Average estimated scholarship: 26 percent
Fully-funded programs: 31
Total scholarships available: 400
Players receiving some scholarship over four years: 1,450
Odds of any high school male landing any Division I scholarship: 0.89 percent
Men's Lacrosse
High school men's lacrosse players: 162,416
Division I programs: 61
NCAA-mandated maximum number of scholarships per program (over four years): 12.6
Average scholarships per program per year: 3.15
Average players per recruiting class: 12
Average estimated scholarship: 26 percent
Fully-funded programs: 31
Total scholarships available: 400
Players receiving some scholarship over four years: 1,450
Odds of any high school male landing any Division I scholarship: 0.89 percent
Don't forget all the D2, D3, & Club teams out there for kids who just love playing the game.
Quite a few top colleges have quality club lax teams, nothing wrong with playing club. My oldest son played club hockey in college, and the benefits were better than playing D2 or D3 hockey.
Many times you can go to a better academic University cheaper and play on great club teams vs. paying a ton for a D3 school whose academics are not at the same level.
^^^^^^ these guys are smart.
Thanks for a real, FAIR review.
Indoor is fun...nothing more..
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams.
Agree, Looneys Orange will be back to their full strength in spring, RR may consider moving down, 91 played undisciplined full field in the fall with defenders and goalies trying to play offense and team not trying to find their open man. Looneys Green will play A. Should be a great spring with everyone in the same league.
Fca beat Hawks 2020 11-5 this week. Looneys beat 91 10-8. Playoffs start next week. It's going to be a battle.
I stayed to watch the FCA/Hawks game after the Loonies/91 game. FCA dominated from start to finish. Not the same team/players I have seen on FCA throughout the box season. Makes you go hmmm...
I stayed to watch the FCA/Hawks game after the Loonies/91 game. FCA dominated from start to finish. Not the same team/players I have seen on FCA throughout the box season. Makes you go hmmm...
No indoor team is the same kids every week. This is the off season sorry but it is. Box is great but you will never have 100% of the kids show up every week.
All who play for FCA are on the team. Some games, you have all defenders and a goalie playing in the field. other games you have a better mix of players
Winter is always tough. Even at the older ages the kids are visiting colleges etc. Different team every week.
Thanks for a real, FAIR review.
Indoor is fun...nothing more..
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams.
Agree, Looneys Orange will be back to their full strength in spring, RR may consider moving down, 91 played undisciplined full field in the fall with defenders and goalies trying to play offense and team not trying to find their open man. Looneys Green will play A. Should be a great spring with everyone in the same league.
Fca beat Hawks 2020 11-5 this week. Looneys beat 91 10-8. Playoffs start next week. It's going to be a battle.
who is playing who?
Thanks for a real, FAIR review.
Indoor is fun...nothing more..
The indoor season is nearly over. Just a couple more weeks.
The cream of the Goals Box league is shaping up like:
2020 - Hawks with Looneys close behind and Team 91 & FCA in every game.
Any surprises with the other teams?
For 2020, Hawks sure does look good. FCA has been struggling - they do not look like their normal team, 91 is not playing as a team and has one kid who rarely passes to open team mates, runs it down and loses the ball more than scoring, Looneys Green is listed as top 3 but only because their line up has been A teams. Looneys Orange looks strong and their games with 91 and Hawks could have gone either way. RoughRiders is also struggling after losing players to other teams.
Agree, Looneys Orange will be back to their full strength in spring, RR may consider moving down, 91 played undisciplined full field in the fall with defenders and goalies trying to play offense and team not trying to find their open man. Looneys Green will play A. Should be a great spring with everyone in the same league.
Fca beat Hawks 2020 11-5 this week. Looneys beat 91 10-8. Playoffs start next week. It's going to be a battle.
who is playing who?
looneys orange v hawks
fca blue v looneys green
Looney's green, true underdog. Finals will air on ESPN Ocho!
Looney's green, true underdog. Finals will air on ESPN Ocho!
Looneys Green should really not be in the C-ships. Pretty funny that they are and how the amateur match ups throughout the season got them there.
Looney's green, true underdog. Finals will air on ESPN Ocho!
Looneys Green should really not be in the C-ships. Pretty funny that they are and how the
amateur match ups throughout the season got them there.
thought the league was 2020, aren't they all amateur at that age? If Crabs were in it a few of them will have working papers and registered for selective service, but most other kids are 14 year olds.
Green has no business being there with their cakewalk schedule. Not mention that Orange never even had to play FCA and got a bye. Ah - the benefits of having your organization run the league.
I predict Looney's FOGO flies up for these games because these games don't matter (says Loonies parent when they lose).
You better hope the FOGO doesn't fly up. But you will be seeing a lot of him when e attends either Calvert Hall of McDonough next year. He will be among the tops next year in MIAA
So much fun to read what CLOWNS think...
YEP..then you can't complain about him flying in for Looney's club team...he will be here!!
You better hope the FOGO doesn't fly up. But you will be seeing a lot of him when e attends either Calvert Hall of McDonough next year. He will be among the tops next year in MIAA
I hope he does fly up. I also hope that he attends one of those schools next year. He will only make other faceoff players better.
Green has no business being there with their cakewalk schedule. Not mention that Orange never even had to play FCA and got a bye. Ah - the benefits of having your organization run the league.
I predict Looney's FOGO flies up for these games because these games don't matter (says Loonies parent when they lose).
thankyou 91 parent, please teach your son how to lose graciously, hopefully he isn't full of excuses like you.
91 MD lost 4 times, failed to beat the big boys. Take it and stop complaining 91 MD. Sounds familiar to when you were breakers. Changing jerseys doesn't always change results
91 MD did not even play Looneys Green so why would they care? RR just beat Green Sunday night as did other teams. Problem is with the schedule and how it was made. Problem always results w Cship when you mix A and AA in the same bracket and all teams do not play one another. You sound like the same crabs parent who has no idea what they are talking about. It is indoor, the kids had fun get over your pettiness.
Loonies sponsored by a bar - enough said. Go change the keg and make sure the men's room is clean.
YEP....like Koopers, Green Turtle...nice people.
Loonies sponsored by a bar - enough said. Go change the keg and make sure the men's room is clean.
Does not mean anything so is Green Turtle
Loonies sponsored by a bar - enough said. Go change the keg and make sure the men's room is clean.
And you are late for work again, need to get at these chores or you may loose your job. Plus, remember Looney's is spelled this way, not Loonies. Also, Green Turtle and Koopers are also owned by bars. seems like you are not very knowledgeable about youth lacrosse.
Didn't Loonies get kicked out of NPYLL for cheating? How about some wings with that side of holdbacks and fly-in players?
Nope - I'm not - I just go on here to stir things up. I like curling.
Didn't Loonies get kicked out of NPYLL for cheating? How about some wings with that side of holdbacks and fly-in players?
I never heard that. Since you seem to know so much why don't you tell everyone what they did to be kicked out of NPYLL. You say cheating, so exactly what did they do. Bet you can't answer that, because for one you don't even know if it is true and you have no idea what you are talking about. On the internet anyone can say anything, to the point of making up things but yet they can't back up their statements. And, fly in players, now you are saying there is more than one, you just keep getting in over your head deeper and deeper.
Didn't Loonies get kicked out of NPYLL for cheating? How about some wings with that side of holdbacks and fly-in players?
Please name your club of choice so we can hurt your feelings with all the cheating or dumb things your club has done.
91 MD lost 4 times, failed to beat the big boys. Take it and stop complaining 91 MD. Sounds familiar to when you were breakers. Changing jerseys doesn't always change results
What are you talking about? Did not see 91 say a word here and have never witnessed sportsmanship issues plaguing some other teams. They had incredibly close games against the top teams during indoor and we did not hear their team complain or mumble. You may not like them, but they are not bad sports. You really do sound like the same crab parent attacking them and you used the same line about jerseys in the fall. You did not even participate in indoor.
Didn't Loonies get kicked out of NPYLL for cheating? How about some wings with that side of holdbacks and fly-in players?
What is wrong with an on age player from out of state playing.
Loonies sponsored by a bar - enough said. Go change the keg and make sure the men's room is clean.
Don't worry the tampon machine is full for you next time, you don't have to use your socks anymore.
Didn't Loonies get kicked out of NPYLL for cheating? How about some wings with that side of holdbacks and fly-in players?
I never heard that. Since you seem to know so much why don't you tell everyone what they did to be kicked out of NPYLL. You say cheating, so exactly what did they do. Bet you can't answer that, because for one you don't even know if it is true and you have no idea what you are talking about. On the internet anyone can say anything, to the point of making up things but yet they can't back up their statements. And, fly in players, now you are saying there is more than one, you just keep getting in over your head deeper and deeper.
Sure. I can tell you exactly what they did because we were in the NPYLL at the time. They started with a great 2015 team that we battled over the years and they got kicked out of the NPYLL for playing games with their roster. Sometimes they had kids from either their AA or A teams playing for their other team, a direct violation of NPYLL rules. That's why they got kicked out and that's why they had to crawl over to the HoCo league.
Sorry to burst your bubble. Guess you have just a youth player and have no perspective/idea what you're talking about. They played people who weren't on the roster, got caught, and were kicked out. That's why I wasn't shocked that the club has been disintegrating and folding teams.
Looney's lineup will be stacked on Sunday. There is no way they won't cheat if they are able to get away with it. Its in their nature - they can't help it.
91 MD lost 4 times, failed to beat the big boys. Take it and stop complaining 91 MD. Sounds familiar to when you were breakers. Changing jerseys doesn't always change results
What are you talking about? Did not see 91 say a word here and have never witnessed sportsmanship issues plaguing some other teams. They had incredibly close games against the top teams during indoor and we did not hear their team complain or mumble. You may not like them, but they are not bad sports. You really do sound like the same crab parent attacking them and you used the same line about jerseys in the fall. You did not even participate in indoor.
Oh I disagree with this statement. The Team 91 MD 2020 team is one of the most disrespectful unsportsmanlike teams out there. It was fun watching them get put in their place in indoor.
Didn't Loonies get kicked out of NPYLL for cheating? How about some wings with that side of holdbacks and fly-in players?
I never heard that. Since you seem to know so much why don't you tell everyone what they did to be kicked out of NPYLL. You say cheating, so exactly what did they do. Bet you can't answer that, because for one you don't even know if it is true and you have no idea what you are talking about. On the internet anyone can say anything, to the point of making up things but yet they can't back up their statements. And, fly in players, now you are saying there is more than one, you just keep getting in over your head deeper and deeper.
Sure. I can tell you exactly what they did because we were in the NPYLL at the time. They started with a great 2015 team that we battled over the years and they got kicked out of the NPYLL for playing games with their roster. Sometimes they had kids from either their AA or A teams playing for their other team, a direct violation of NPYLL rules. That's why they got kicked out and that's why they had to crawl over to the HoCo league.
Sorry to burst your bubble. Guess you have just a youth player and have no perspective/idea what you're talking about. They played people who weren't on the roster, got caught, and were kicked out. That's why I wasn't shocked that the club has been disintegrating and folding teams.
What you are describing is something that Crabs and FCA does all the time in tournaments. They enter a 2020 team in a tournament and bring their 2019 team. I have seen this first hand on a few occasions. I believe the NPYLL bylaws stated cannot play for two different teams but it has been a long time since I have seen the bylaws. This could have been a misunderstanding of the bylaws, who knows, but there is always Ryan M from Crabs, who plays any system he can to his advantage, well beyond the limit.
Looney's lineup will be stacked on Sunday. There is no way they won't cheat if they are able to get away with it. Its in their nature - they can't help it.
There is no need for them to stack their lineup as you describe. They have a strong lineup of players and are a strong and respected 2020 team. You are sounding like a Crabs parent/fan, take every opportunity to jump on another team, helps keep the conversation away from Crabs and their leader Ryan M.
Didn't Loonies get kicked out of NPYLL for cheating? How about some wings with that side of holdbacks and fly-in players?
I never heard that. Since you seem to know so much why don't you tell everyone what they did to be kicked out of NPYLL. You say cheating, so exactly what did they do. Bet you can't answer that, because for one you don't even know if it is true and you have no idea what you are talking about. On the internet anyone can say anything, to the point of making up things but yet they can't back up their statements. And, fly in players, now you are saying there is more than one, you just keep getting in over your head deeper and deeper.
Sure. I can tell you exactly what they did because we were in the NPYLL at the time. They started with a great 2015 team that we battled over the years and they got kicked out of the NPYLL for playing games with their roster. Sometimes they had kids from either their AA or A teams playing for their other team, a direct violation of NPYLL rules. That's why they got kicked out and that's why they had to crawl over to the HoCo league.
Sorry to burst your bubble. Guess you have just a youth player and have no perspective/idea what you're talking about. They played people who weren't on the roster, got caught, and were kicked out. That's why I wasn't shocked that the club has been disintegrating and folding teams.
What you are describing is something that Crabs and FCA does all the time in tournaments. They enter a 2020 team in a tournament and bring their 2019 team. I have seen this first hand on a few occasions. I believe the NPYLL bylaws stated cannot play for two different teams but it has been a long time since I have seen the bylaws. This could have been a misunderstanding of the bylaws, who knows, but there is always Ryan M from Crabs, who plays any system he can to his advantage, well beyond the limit.
I have nothing to do with the Crabs nor does my post. My kid has graduated but we were there in the early NPYLL days. What you are describing (2019 Crabs kids reclassifying and now becoming 2020s) is a different issue. Feel free to go to town about it on a different thread.
If made a ridiculous comment that it was just a rumor and I had no idea what I was talking about. If you ask anyone who had a kid back in the NPYLL back when the Looney's were in it, they'll tell you the exact same story.
The NPYLL bylaws stated exactly what the rules were and the Looney's violated them. They eventually were banned from the playoffs and kicked out of the league.
You can shut up now.
Wait. This is hilarious. Your depends are in a bunch because of something that happened 6-7 years ago? Looney's beat your 2015 team using kids from their single A team? And you don't have a kid playing club lacrosse anymore but you're lurking on this site so you can bash Looney's? Do you suck at golf? Ever try tennis? There's bird watching, books, bridge club....
Didn't Loonies get kicked out of NPYLL for cheating? How about some wings with that side of holdbacks and fly-in players?
I never heard that. Since you seem to know so much why don't you tell everyone what they did to be kicked out of NPYLL. You say cheating, so exactly what did they do. Bet you can't answer that, because for one you don't even know if it is true and you have no idea what you are talking about. On the internet anyone can say anything, to the point of making up things but yet they can't back up their statements. And, fly in players, now you are saying there is more than one, you just keep getting in over your head deeper and deeper.
Sure. I can tell you exactly what they did because we were in the NPYLL at the time. They started with a great 2015 team that we battled over the years and they got kicked out of the NPYLL for playing games with their roster. Sometimes they had kids from either their AA or A teams playing for their other team, a direct violation of NPYLL rules. That's why they got kicked out and that's why they had to crawl over to the HoCo league.
Sorry to burst your bubble. Guess you have just a youth player and have no perspective/idea what you're talking about. They played people who weren't on the roster, got caught, and were kicked out. That's why I wasn't shocked that the club has been disintegrating and folding teams.
What you are describing is something that Crabs and FCA does all the time in tournaments. They enter a 2020 team in a tournament and bring their 2019 team. I have seen this first hand on a few occasions. I believe the NPYLL bylaws stated cannot play for two different teams but it has been a long time since I have seen the bylaws. This could have been a misunderstanding of the bylaws, who knows, but there is always Ryan M from Crabs, who plays any system he can to his advantage, well beyond the limit.
I have nothing to do with the Crabs nor does my post. My kid has graduated but we were there in the early NPYLL days. What you are describing (2019 Crabs kids reclassifying and now becoming 2020s) is a different issue. Feel free to go to town about it on a different thread.
If made a ridiculous comment that it was just a rumor and I had no idea what I was talking about. If you ask anyone who had a kid back in the NPYLL back when the Looney's were in it, they'll tell you the exact same story.
The NPYLL bylaws stated exactly what the rules were and the Looney's violated them. They eventually were banned from the playoffs and kicked out of the league.
You can shut up now.
I am going to stop talking about this now, but not because of your rude statement to shut up. It shows how much you don't know about Crabs, it is not the reclassifying of 2019/2020, I was talking about their cheating in tournaments, which is not the same as what you are talking about. I feel sorry for you, your kid is now out of youth lacrosse, why do feel compelled to go online and trash a club, on something that may have happened 5 or 6 years ago. You need something else to do with your time. But, if I want to continue to discuss Crabs I will do so here and not on another thread as you seem to be suggesting. See, I didn't shut up.
I have nothing to do with the Crabs nor does my post. My kid has graduated but we were there in the early NPYLL days. What you are describing (2019 Crabs kids reclassifying and now becoming 2020s) is a different issue. Feel free to go to town about it on a different thread.
If made a ridiculous comment that it was just a rumor and I had no idea what I was talking about. If you ask anyone who had a kid back in the NPYLL back when the Looney's were in it, they'll tell you the exact same story.
The NPYLL bylaws stated exactly what the rules were and the Looney's violated them. They eventually were banned from the playoffs and kicked out of the league.
You can shut up now.
Sorry your sons AA team got beat consistently by Looney's A players, it must have sucked thinking you were going to beat their depleted AA team only to find out their A players were still better than your AA players.
Get a life, move on, be a better father to your son, and accept that you paid top dollar for your sons club team to tell you they were AA but to find out that they were probably only a B team.
What a loser!
I have nothing to do with the Crabs nor does my post. My kid has graduated but we were there in the early NPYLL days. What you are describing (2019 Crabs kids reclassifying and now becoming 2020s) is a different issue. Feel free to go to town about it on a different thread.
If made a ridiculous comment that it was just a rumor and I had no idea what I was talking about. If you ask anyone who had a kid back in the NPYLL back when the Looney's were in it, they'll tell you the exact same story.
The NPYLL bylaws stated exactly what the rules were and the Looney's violated them. They eventually were banned from the playoffs and kicked out of the league.
You can shut up now.
Sorry your sons AA team got beat consistently by Looney's A players, it must have sucked thinking you were going to beat their depleted AA team only to find out their A players were still better than your AA players.
Get a life, move on, be a better father to your son, and accept that you paid top dollar for your sons club team to tell you they were AA but to find out that they were probably only a B team.
What a loser!
You really are an idiot. Did you even read the post? Looney's had AA guys filling in for A guys on their A team at times. That's why they were kicked out.
Why not ask some of the Looney's leadership what happened? They will confirm it, but will be embarrassed.
You really are a loudmouth Looney's dad. Are you the dad of the 2016 lefty attackman going to Hopkins? That dad is the worst.
Looneys - fantastic wings and good lookin waitresses
Loonies line up on Sunday will not be the same as it was this past week guaranteed. 2019s and Florida FOGO. Pass the beer nuts.
You are so full of hate and judgment for every team - you find something wrong with every group of 14 year olds. You are making Looneys look even worse by criticizing every other team. Guessing you are Looneys Green and you are tired of being in Oranges' shadow and your kid got cut from all the other teams you spend your day bashing.
I have nothing to do with the Crabs nor does my post. My kid has graduated but we were there in the early NPYLL days. What you are describing (2019 Crabs kids reclassifying and now becoming 2020s) is a different issue. Feel free to go to town about it on a different thread.
If made a ridiculous comment that it was just a rumor and I had no idea what I was talking about. If you ask anyone who had a kid back in the NPYLL back when the Looney's were in it, they'll tell you the exact same story.
The NPYLL bylaws stated exactly what the rules were and the Looney's violated them. They eventually were banned from the playoffs and kicked out of the league.
You can shut up now.
Sorry your sons AA team got beat consistently by Looney's A players, it must have sucked thinking you were going to beat their depleted AA team only to find out their A players were still better than your AA players.
Get a life, move on, be a better father to your son, and accept that you paid top dollar for your sons club team to tell you they were AA but to find out that they were probably only a B team.
What a loser!
You really are an idiot. Did you even read the post? Looney's had AA guys filling in for A guys on their A team at times. That's why they were kicked out.
Why not ask some of the Looney's leadership what happened? They will confirm it, but will be embarrassed.
You really are a loudmouth Looney's dad. Are you the dad of the 2016 lefty attackman going to Hopkins? That dad is the worst.
Not that father, not even a Looney's parent. Just tired of hearing imbeciles like you complain about things that happened years ago. Oh, and that sort of thing is now common with FCA teams.
Go get a box of tissues and cry and reminisce about what could have been with your sons B team.
Knowing todays Looney's coaches..I am finding all of this HARD to believe or understand.
You are so full of hate and judgment for every team - you find something wrong with every group of 14 year olds. You are making Looneys look even worse by criticizing every other team. Guessing you are Looneys Green and you are tired of being in Oranges' shadow and your kid got cut from all the other teams you spend your day bashing.
Nobody knows who you are talking to without a quote.
Knowing todays Looney's coaches..I am finding all of this HARD to believe or understand.
The guy talking about Looney's is talking about something that apparently happened 5 or 6 years ago. The Looney's coaches I know have never moved AA players down to the A team for league play or tournaments. The only club doing that now is FCA.
You are so full of hate and judgment for every team - you find something wrong with every group of 14 year olds. You are making Looneys look even worse by criticizing every other team. Guessing you are Looneys Green and you are tired of being in Oranges' shadow and your kid got cut from all the other teams you spend your day bashing.
Why are you referencing looneys green? You accuse some unknown poster of being critical and full of hate. Then make a negative statement about a team you obviously of no clue about.
Knowing todays Looney's coaches..I am finding all of this HARD to believe or understand.
LOL. Just ask them. Just ask them why they were in the NPYLL and then left to be part of a mediocre HoCo league.
The guys who originally founded Looney's were the ones who were responsible for putting kids on the field who were on the roster. They cheated, got caught, and were kicked out. 100% true.
Knowing todays Looney's coaches..I am finding all of this HARD to believe or understand.
The guy talking about Looney's is talking about something that apparently happened 5 or 6 years ago. The Looney's coaches I know have never moved AA players down to the A team for league play or tournaments. The only club doing that now is FCA.
1. Not apparently. It did happen. Are you too scared to ask the Looney's leadership about it?
2. The current Looney's BOD includes the guys who founded the club AND were the ones who oversaw the cheating.
3. Even if your coaches weren't involved, aren't you embarrassed to be part of a cheating club?
4. Someone told me the current leadership folded their junior and sophomore teams. That is incredible.
Lots of crazy people in lacrosse at Crabs and FCA. But Looney's is the clear #1.
Knowing todays Looney's coaches..I am finding all of this HARD to believe or understand.
The guy talking about Looney's is talking about something that apparently happened 5 or 6 years ago. The Looney's coaches I know have never moved AA players down to the A team for league play or tournaments. The only club doing that now is FCA.
1. Not apparently. It did happen. Are you too scared to ask the Looney's leadership about it?
2. The current Looney's BOD includes the guys who founded the club AND were the ones who oversaw the cheating.
3. Even if your coaches weren't involved, aren't you embarrassed to be part of a cheating club?
4. Someone told me the current leadership folded their junior and sophomore teams. That is incredible.
Lots of crazy people in lacrosse at Crabs and FCA. But Looney's is the clear #1.
nobody but you care about something that happened "how long ago"? Most families are happy with Looney's current teams, coaches, and direction the club is going. sorry whatever happened 5+ years ago affected you to the point that you insist to bring it up and talk about it, maybe you should see a shrink to get over your problems.
Who cares? It happened years ago? You should get a life. Perhaps you are part elephant since you have been carrying this around for so long. We can call you dumbo if you want?
Knowing todays Looney's coaches..I am finding all of this HARD to believe or understand.
The guy talking about Looney's is talking about something that apparently happened 5 or 6 years ago. The Looney's coaches I know have never moved AA players down to the A team for league play or tournaments. The only club doing that now is FCA.
1. Not apparently. It did happen. Are you too scared to ask the Looney's leadership about it?
2. The current Looney's BOD includes the guys who founded the club AND were the ones who oversaw the cheating.
3. Even if your coaches weren't involved, aren't you embarrassed to be part of a cheating club?
4. Someone told me the current leadership folded their junior and sophomore teams. That is incredible.
Lots of crazy people in lacrosse at Crabs and FCA. But Looney's is the clear #1.
Totally wrong. I cannot say this did or didn't happen, I wasn't involved in club lacrosse 6 or 7 years ago. If it did, so what, look at what is happening now with Crabs and FCA. They are doing much more than what is being described that Looney's did. Crabs and their leader, the king of cheats Ryan M is clearly in a far distance #1 position followed closely by FCA. These two clubs are clearly the major cheaters of youth lacrosse today and will continue until someone comes down on them. Only problem is king cheat Ryan M has too much influence on youth lacrosse and will not allow any one or any thing to get in his way. He is in it for the money and to brag that he has the best teams etc.
Most families are happy with Looney's current teams, coaches, and direction the club is going.
Not the 2017 and 2018 parents who were kicked to the curb by their own club.
Most families are happy with Looney's current teams, coaches, and direction the club is going.
Not the 2017 and 2018 parents who were kicked to the curb by their own club.
guess you didn't see the word "current"
Yeah, those teams are no longer current because the club abandoned those players and parents. Classy.
Time to chill, hater. It's 2016, focus on the new Looney's coaches to hate. When we hit the field, come out and hate us!!
When We hit the field?...We?....you must stick out on the field .....you the guy who calls talk radio and talks about sports team as we 7 us?...dbag
Who uses the word "Hater"? Are we 10 years old or on Jerry Springer?
When We hit the field?...We?....you must stick out on the field .....you the guy who calls talk radio and talks about sports team as we 7 us?...dbag
"talks about sports team as we 7 us?". What does that mean. Obviously English is not your first language, you are on here criticizing people when you can't even speak clearly. Let it go.
Looney's - once a cheater - always a cheater. Can I get some nachos and a hamburger please.
my bad..if you look on the keyboard, I guess I didn't hold the shift 7 key down to get the & in there..but thanks anyway...glad you looked though...still a dbag
Looney's - once a cheater - always a cheater. Can I get some nachos and a hamburger please.
The tampon machine is filled backup for you. The seat liners are also there for when you sit down to pee.
my bad..if you look on the keyboard, I guess I didn't hold the shift 7 key down to get the & in there..but thanks anyway...glad you looked though...still a dbag
Seat-keyboard error.
my bad..if you look on the keyboard, I guess I didn't hold the shift 7 key down to get the & in there..but thanks anyway...glad you looked though...still a dbag
No, your bad goes well beyond not knowing how to type and then making excuses. You are just a plain POS that has nothing in his life and as a result of that you feel it is necessary to trash Looney's. Well, hate to tell you numb nuts but Looney's would never want to be associated with a dbag like you.
ouch...anger issues that wife and kids have to deal with everyday? ride home from games probably a swell time with you I bet...but they love you because you write checks while your son is a cheer-leader in training on the sidelines during games...hey, but the Looney swag is worth it right?...
ouch...anger issues that wife and kids have to deal with everyday? ride home from games probably a swell time with you I bet...but they love you because you write checks while your son is a cheer-leader in training on the sidelines during games...hey, but the Looney swag is worth it right?...
No anger issues at all. Far from it, I am way above taking time to trash a club team, but this seems to be your mission at the present time, or maybe it is all the time. Seems you are the one with the anger issues, and I bet it goes way beyond youth lax. I do not have a son in club lax, he is playing for a top Div 1 program, has a sweet lax scholarship entering his second year and is enjoying life. Too bad your little boy is probably on a sub B youth team, asking you "daddy why can't I play on an AA, I'm not a looser like you".
It is hard to determine who is worse - Crabs or Looney's - both cheat and both have annoying parents. Hey - we need another round of drinks back here and a bowl of chili while you are at it.
ah, got ya'..."I'm not a looser like you"....?..think you mean "loser"...seems we all make spelling errors, huh?
and kudos to your little namesake on the sidelines of the Top D1 program...shame his dad still has to troll this website and weigh in on things that don't apply to him anymore...have fun working the late shift Burger King tonight pops
It is hard to determine who is worse - Crabs or Looney's - both cheat and both have annoying parents. Hey - we need another round of drinks back here and a bowl of chili while you are at it.
You can have lunch as soon as you complete your job tasks, the restrooms need cleaning, including the toilets and the kitchen needs attention as well. We don't pay you $6 an hour to sit on your butt. And the next time we see you on the internet trashing a club team, you're fired. We don't want to see that happen, a loser like you this is probably the best job you have ever had.
It is hard to determine who is worse - Crabs or Looney's - both cheat and both have annoying parents. Hey - we need another round of drinks back here and a bowl of chili while you are at it.
stop dwelling on the past, try to be a better father to your son. maybe, start paying the child support to your ex-wife. it would be terrible for your son to see you go to jail for being a deadbeat dad.
ah, got ya'..."I'm not a looser like you"....?..think you mean "loser"...seems we all make spelling errors, huh?
and kudos to your little namesake on the sidelines of the Top D1 program...shame his dad still has to troll this website and weigh in on things that don't apply to him anymore...have fun working the late shift Burger King tonight pops
Boy, you were paying attention. That was there on purpose to see if you would catch it. I am amazed that you did. No, he is not on the sidelines, he runs first midfield, something you or your son never did/will achieve. And while I do not have a son playing club lax I still coach on a successful club team, again something your son will never achieve or see, not if he acts like a dbag like you and you know he is going to, because I would bet you act this way about everything in life and he sees it, at least on the weekends you have visitation rights. Must be tough for you having to work outside all the time digging ditches and never really getting ahead. Must be the root of your anger/hate issues.
OMG... this is crazy. Keep it up boys! I read an article today that talked about the "cost" of productivity lost to Facebook... Facebook has nothing on BOTC! You guys are awesome... (popcorn crunch)... (popcorn crunch)... Now get back at it.
OMG... this is crazy. Keep it up boys! I read an article today that talked about the "cost" of productivity lost to Facebook... Facebook has nothing on BOTC! You guys are awesome... (popcorn crunch)... (popcorn crunch)... Now get back at it.
a voyeur who has stage freight, probably cant pee in the mens room when somebody else is there.
MMILL Champions - Club League
U9 - Cannons over Sidewinders U9
Ull - Bethesda 2024 over South River U11
U13 - Bethesda 2021 over Hawks 2022
U15 - Cannons U15 over Swarm U15
Crease Lacrosse Champions:
Varsity - Marriots Ridge over Hawks
JV - HoCo over Zingos
Jv was hoco over marriotts ridge jv
These Bethesda Teams are legit - for sure - will be tough to beat this Spring.
These Bethesda Teams are legit - for sure - will be tough to beat this Spring.
Bethesda 2021 was 1-1 vs. Hawks 2022. Spring will not be easy for any team.
FCA over Hawks in Goals 2020 league. Both Looneys teams eliminated in Semis.
Not really 1-1. The first game was not the Bethesda 2021 Blue Team - anyone who saw yesterday's game knows the difference - was a blowout - and could have been worse. Hawks 22 is a Top 22 Team, but can't compete with a top 21 team - no shame in that - they are not supposed to.
No one said anything about Spring being easy - comment was tough to beat.
FCA over Hawks in Goals 2020 league. Both Looneys teams eliminated in Semis.
Looneys Green only qualified for semis due to a light schedule all season. Of course FCA rolled right over them with an easy first game. That and older kids.
Not really 1-1. The first game was not the Bethesda 2021 Blue Team - anyone who saw yesterday's game knows the difference - was a blowout - and could have been worse. Hawks 22 is a Top 22 Team, but can't compete with a top 21 team - no shame in that - they are not supposed to.
No one said anything about Spring being easy - comment was tough to beat.
There reasons behind every loss.
sometimes a reason is pretty valid - like the fact that the team that lost was not the same team that won. Bethesda threw 7 kids together (no subs) for the first game - instead of forfeiting - because kids were playing other sports - including putting an attackman in goal.
BLC 2021 would never beat the Hawks 2020 - or any other Tope Tier 2020 - the year is a HUGE difference. They are even with Hawks 2021, but give it a rest - Hawks 2022 - not even remotely competitive with Top Tier 2021 teams. Never the case.
Soooooo glad Hawks 2022 lost. The coach is a complete meathead. Dude, try decaf. The parents have to be the most obnoxious around. Not a fun group.
The non-MD clubs better get a fair shake in this new HoCo world. For example, if Madlax 2020 is not put in the top tier AA category, you'll know the fix is in. It will be because the other MD clubs are trying to shut out the best challengers to the Baltimore crown.
Really? That's the only reason they wouldn't be in the top bracket? Not because they went 2-5 last year and came in 6th place in NPYLL?
The non-MD clubs better get a fair shake in this new HoCo world. For example, if Madlax 2020 is not put in the top tier AA category, you'll know the fix is in. It will be because the other MD clubs are trying to shut out the best challengers to the Baltimore crown.
Ha -nice try. HoCo league does not bow to coach/director pressure. Please. No Madlax 2020 has been top tier in years. I am sure they would give you a refund if you ask nicely.
Actually, they're a really fun group. Coach is not a meathead. You obviously don't know him. A super coach who is dedicated and smart.
sometimes a reason is pretty valid - like the fact that the team that lost was not the same team that won. Bethesda threw 7 kids together (no subs) for the first game - instead of forfeiting - because kids were playing other sports - including putting an attackman in goal.
BLC 2021 would never beat the Hawks 2020 - or any other Tope Tier 2020 - the year is a HUGE difference. They are even with Hawks 2021, but give it a rest - Hawks 2022 - not even remotely competitive with Top Tier 2021 teams. Never the case.
Excellent excuses.
Typical BLC 2021 Parent ^^^^^^
Pathetic
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Really? That's the only reason they wouldn't be in the top bracket? Not because they went 2-5 last year and came in 6th place in NPYLL?
That was last year. Keep hating. Comes with the territory when you play for the best club in the country.
Really? That's the only reason they wouldn't be in the top bracket? Not because they went 2-5 last year and came in 6th place in NPYLL?
That was last year. Keep hating. Comes with the territory when you play for the best club in the country.
Didn't they lose to looneys like 10-0 lol keep dreaming
Really? That's the only reason they wouldn't be in the top bracket? Not because they went 2-5 last year and came in 6th place in NPYLL?
That was last year. Keep hating. Comes with the territory when you play for the best club in the country.
and here come the kids out to play
Really? That's the only reason they wouldn't be in the top bracket? Not because they went 2-5 last year and came in 6th place in NPYLL?
That was last year. Keep hating. Comes with the territory when you play for the best club in the country.
And the league is supposed to take your word for it that you have had major improvement? Sorry, record - both prior year and fall is indicative of where you belong this year. Work hard, improve your record and convince people and maybe you can play in the top bracket next year.
Really? That's the only reason they wouldn't be in the top bracket? Not because they went 2-5 last year and came in 6th place in NPYLL?
That was last year. Keep hating. Comes with the territory when you play for the best club in the country.
Obviously you live in a county that got the day off from school. Get off the message boards and go hit the bounce back kid, your team obviously needs you to get better.
Really? That's the only reason they wouldn't be in the top bracket? Not because they went 2-5 last year and came in 6th place in NPYLL?
That was last year. Keep hating. Comes with the territory when you play for the best club in the country.
And the league is supposed to take your word for it that you have had major improvement? Sorry, record - both prior year and fall is indicative of where you belong this year. Work hard, improve your record and convince people and maybe you can play in the top bracket next year.
It's a youth league, dummy. It stops in 8th grade.
People in MD can't handle that Madlax us the best club in the nation.
Really? That's the only reason they wouldn't be in the top bracket? Not because they went 2-5 last year and came in 6th place in NPYLL?
That was last year. Keep hating. Comes with the territory when you play for the best club in the country.
And the league is supposed to take your word for it that you have had major improvement? Sorry, record - both prior year and fall is indicative of where you belong this year. Work hard, improve your record and convince people and maybe you can play in the top bracket next year.
It's a youth league, dummy. It stops in 8th grade.
People in MD can't handle that Madlax us the best club in the nation.
What nation are you talking about. It is certainly not the United States. that would be a pipe dream that will never be fulfilled.
Really? That's the only reason they wouldn't be in the top bracket? Not because they went 2-5 last year and came in 6th place in NPYLL?
That was last year. Keep hating. Comes with the territory when you play for the best club in the country.
And the league is supposed to take your word for it that you have had major improvement? Sorry, record - both prior year and fall is indicative of where you belong this year. Work hard, improve your record and convince people and maybe you can play in the top bracket next year.
It's a youth league, dummy. It stops in 8th grade.
People in MD can't handle that Madlax us the best club in the nation.
Yes! very true, Crab parents are very distraught that Madlax took the title of most pre-first / hold back players in a single club. Crabs thought they were the best cheaters, only to be outdone by Mad-ear-wax.
If a kid reclasses, that's not cheating. Stop hating on Madlax. You hate in the best because you can't be the best!
If a kid reclasses, that's not cheating. Stop hating on Madlax. You hate in the best because you can't be the best!
Good grief, if you think Maxlax is the best I would hate to see what worst would look like. I don't think anyone hates Madlax, they just know it is not a strong program and people like you show up and make crazy/unreal statements that they are. You need something else to do with your time.
If a kid reclasses, that's not cheating. Stop hating on Madlax. You hate in the best because you can't be the best!
how did you guys do against Looney's in the fall?
Looneys and their hold backs, come on, they have more than crabs.
Looneys and their hold backs, come on, they have more than crabs.
. You are completely out of your mind and have no idea what you are talking about. Crabs leads every other club in holdbacks. Nice try Crab dad but it won't work and you will convince no one.
Looneys and their hold backs, come on, they have more than crabs.
. You are completely out of your mind and have no idea what you are talking about. Crabs leads every other club in holdbacks. Nice try Crab dad but it won't work and you will convince no one.
Madlax actually has more holdbacks (partly because they field so many teams).
If you reclass in 8th grade that is not cheating.
If you do a prefirst grade in private school that is not cheating.
If you hold your child back in any grade that is not cheating.
Just because a select few get an advantage in youth lacrosse, it is not cheating
Save the Children ad agency ..paid by Crabs, FCA, Madlax and Howard County Recreation Department
We have been a part of three top Baltimore club programs and they all have holdbacks. The Crabs just have the most holdbacks of kids that are good enough to play at a high level as on age kids. Therefore they draw the most attention. Some of their holdbacks have no business holding back since they are legit as on age players. Driven by parents egos!
Not true, crabs has 4 or 5, Looneys has 9 this year, fca 6, 91 3 or 4.
It doesn't matter. Grade base.
Not true, crabs has 4 or 5, Looneys has 9 this year, fca 6, 91 3 or 4.
It doesn't matter. Grade base.
. Your numbers are wrong. Crabs is the one with the highest number of holdbacks and their 2020 team has 2 double holdbacks. You need to stop making up crap. If you think your numbers are accurate, show everyone the proof. We're waiting.
If a kid reclasses, that's not cheating. Stop hating on Madlax. You hate in the best because you can't be the best!
Good grief, if you think Maxlax is the best I would hate to see what worst would look like. I don't think anyone hates Madlax, they just know it is not a strong program and people like you show up and make crazy/unreal statements that they are. You need something else to do with your time.
I can agree that Madlax is not the top program in the nation. But to say they are not strong is flat out wrong. First the easy thing to do is look at the commit list for 2018 and 2109 classes. Then look at what tournaments there top teams play in. I think what hurts Madlax is they filed A and AA teams. So people see the A team and think that is the top Madlax team all the time. But to say there top AA teams over the last 10 to 15 teams have not been strong is just wrong flat out wrong. They claim top 5 clubs in the nation which is kinda high. But they are top 20 in the nation for the last 10 to 15 years.
Not true, crabs has 4 or 5, Looneys has 9 this year, fca 6, 91 3 or 4.
It doesn't matter. Grade base.
. Your numbers are wrong. Crabs is the one with the highest number of holdbacks and their 2020 team has 2 double holdbacks. You need to stop making up crap. If you think your numbers are accurate, show everyone the proof. We're waiting.
The funny thing is Crabs openly admits to having holdbacks while FCA and others seem to squirm, get defensive and even deny having them when called out on this forum. All the top programs have them and EVERY AA coach openly accepts them. So why all the fuss? Would be nice if everyone just owned it and we could move on. However that is probably wishful thinking.
Grade based teams with an age cut off like the World Series of Lacrosse would be more than sufficient in curbing this practice. It's one thing to have a late birthday or a year of pre-k. Its another thing to use reclassifying as club strategy to gain an advantage which is what the Crabs are all about. Their thrashing on national TV last summer proved that without older players they are not so hot.
Grade based teams with an age cut off like the World Series of Lacrosse would be more than sufficient in curbing this practice. It's one thing to have a late birthday or a year of pre-k. Its another thing to use reclassifying as club strategy to gain an advantage which is what the Crabs are all about. Their thrashing on national TV last summer proved that without older players they are not so hot.
I think the funny thing is if the crabs and all the other clubs where forced to follow the age limit rules. The same teams would be at the top of the pack. Because you are correct the crabs without holdbacks are not the best, but the better players that are on age but play for other teams because they where cut or pushed out by holdbacks. I have seen it happen the top 13 players on the top clubs are what make the team. If you find yourself as the 14th player you change clubs so your son is in the top 13 players on that team. So the last 7 or so players on all the top clubs are really avg players to good players. You can see how a team like Sweetlax has 10 players on a team commit. If you go back the last 5 years of that teams roster you see kids who have moved to another club and show up on a commit list. Or in VA you see kids leave Madlax for Blackwolf and VLC and end up on a commit list.
Grade based teams with an age cut off like the World Series of Lacrosse would be more than sufficient in curbing this practice. It's one thing to have a late birthday or a year of pre-k. Its another thing to use reclassifying as club strategy to gain an advantage which is what the Crabs are all about. Their thrashing on national TV last summer proved that without older players they are not so hot.
You can keep crying because your son isn't good enough, but there is a reason they went to grade based teams. The girls side has done it that way for years (yes, holdbacks for girls is not as common), and that's what the clubs/college coaches want to see.
You can keep crying, but it is waste of time. As for the Crabs, they were dominant when it was age based as well. Holdbacks are everywhere, and actually Madlax and FCA lead the pack.
I liked yesterday about teachers, private school, public school. This holdback stuff is a broken record. Anyone see the Navy Hopkins game. 2 ot's? Heard is was a great game but Stanwick was just too much.
Bingo! Being pushed aside on a great team due to holdbacks. Switch teams! Playing time is most important! Being on the D side of a great team can be boring. Playing D on a very good team will be more challenging and present more opportunities to display your abilities. Worked for us!
Grade based teams with an age cut off like the World Series of Lacrosse would be more than sufficient in curbing this practice. It's one thing to have a late birthday or a year of pre-k. Its another thing to use reclassifying as club strategy to gain an advantage which is what the Crabs are all about. Their thrashing on national TV last summer proved that without older players they are not so hot.
I think the funny thing is if the crabs and all the other clubs where forced to follow the age limit rules. The same teams would be at the top of the pack. Because you are correct the crabs without holdbacks are not the best, but the better players that are on age but play for other teams because they where cut or pushed out by holdbacks. I have seen it happen the top 13 players on the top clubs are what make the team. If you find yourself as the 14th player you change clubs so your son is in the top 13 players on that team. So the last 7 or so players on all the top clubs are really avg players to good players. You can see how a team like Sweetlax has 10 players on a team commit. If you go back the last 5 years of that teams roster you see kids who have moved to another club and show up on a commit list. Or in VA you see kids leave Madlax for Blackwolf and VLC and end up on a commit list.
I liked yesterday about teachers, private school, public school. This holdback stuff is a broken record. Anyone see the Navy Hopkins game. 2 ot's? Heard is was a great game but Stanwick was just too much.
I liked yesterday about teachers, private school, public school. This holdback stuff is a broken record. Anyone see the Navy Hopkins game. 2 ot's? Heard is was a great game but Stanwick was just too much.
it was ryan brown that was too much - 6 goals. he has a lazer
My kid is a holdback, attends a private Catholic HS and travels a significant distance to get to HS or stays with friends or coaches. I don't see what the problem is? I am and will continue to to what is best for my family and to help secure my son success in his future. What father wouldn't do the same. Please don't question the way I parent and I won't question you.
My kid is a holdback, attends a private Catholic HS and travels a significant distance to get to HS or stays with friends or coaches. I don't see what the problem is? I am and will continue to to what is best for my family and to help secure my son success in his future. What father wouldn't do the same. Please don't question the way I parent and I won't question you.
Teaching your kid to buck the system isn't good parenting. Shame you send him so far away for school, you really should be s better father and be in his life more.
Good for you - at least you have come to terms with your cheating ways. Your kid clearly can't hack it with other kids his own age. Pathetic.
That's a great childhood, someone else saying goodnight to your son and good morning. Wow
He will be attending a top notch University, getting a great HS education and loves the game of lacrosse...I sleep peacefully at night.
You can do whatever you want to do. Who cares what a bunch of dudes hiding behind the internet think. I certainly don't.
I bet you do - because - clearly you have no moral compass. My son is getting a great HS education, loves the game of lacrosse and will be more likely than not be playing lacrosse at top notch university. He also is on age and hopefully learning the lesson that dedication and hard work will payoff in the end.
I can only imagine what he would do to kids if he played a year or two down. Of course - I wouldn't do that because it is pathetic.
He will be attending a top notch University, getting a great HS education and loves the game of lacrosse...I sleep peacefully at night.
I'm sure you do sleep well at night knowing somebody else is taking care of your son. Hopefully the person now raising your son has a better moral compass than you and raises him properly.
zzzzzzzzzz. See, no prob at all. Thank you to your on-age son for making mine look good. The D1 college coaches appreciated it.
zzzzzzzzzz. See, no prob at all. Thank you to your on-age son for making mine look good. The D1 college coaches appreciated it.
You probably let another man in the bedroom to take care of the wife as well!
Well US Soccer is really pushing age limits based on a Jan 1 cutoff and it is trickling into the rec leagues even.
Unfortunately, in this area of the country with a Sept 1cutoff, 1/4 of the kids in any grade will now be forced to play up with the kids in the grade ahead of them and not with their classmates.
US Soccer acknowledged this and basically said it was either Jan 1 or Sept 1 and we picked Jan1. Sorry to anyone that doesn't like it.
Well US Soccer is really pushing age limits based on a Jan 1 cutoff and it is trickling into the rec leagues even.
Unfortunately, in this area of the country with a Sept 1cutoff, 1/4 of the kids in any grade will now be forced to play up with the kids in the grade ahead of them and not with their classmates.
US Soccer acknowledged this and basically said it was either Jan 1 or Sept 1 and we picked Jan1. Sorry to anyone that doesn't like it.
wont work in lacrosse. To many dads like the one who is proud of holding his kid back. Lacrosse is a cesspool for a select few holdback parents. The cheaters of youth lacrosse need their advantage.
My kid is a holdback, attends a private Catholic HS and travels a significant distance to get to HS or stays with friends or coaches. I don't see what the problem is? I am and will continue to to what is best for my family and to help secure my son success in his future. What father wouldn't do the same. Please don't question the way I parent and I won't question you.
You emphasize what is wrong with YOUTH lacrosse. You feel entitled to some advantage most do not get. You are clueless that there is a problem?? No one would cares or questions that you held your son back, we only care that you feel YOUR son is entitled to an advantage at youth lacrosse that the majority of Children dont have. Somehow that logic is missing in your brain.
so salty...your kid must be riding the bench?
My kid is a holdback, attends a private Catholic HS and travels a significant distance to get to HS or stays with friends or coaches. I don't see what the problem is? I am and will continue to to what is best for my family and to help secure my son success in his future. What father wouldn't do the same. Please don't question the way I parent and I won't question you.
You emphasize what is wrong with YOUTH lacrosse. You feel entitled to some advantage most do not get. You are clueless that there is a problem?? No one would cares or questions that you held your son back, we only care that you feel YOUR son is entitled to an advantage at youth lacrosse that the majority of Children dont have. Somehow that logic is missing in your brain.
I don't think entitled means what you think entitled means.
By holding a child back you allow them to mature, both mentally and physically. Does this give them an advantage? Yes it probably does, but that is my duty as a parent, to ensure the success of my child. I would do whatever it takes to help my child succeed. I don't make a spectacular living. Both my wife and I work to pay for our children to attend private school. We don't go on vacation. My children have benefited from staying back. They are doing better in school. Neither child is big, but they are athletic. Tell me what I did wrong?
By holding a child back you allow them to mature, both mentally and physically. Does this give them an advantage? Yes it probably does, but that is my duty as a parent, to ensure the success of my child. I would do whatever it takes to help my child succeed. I don't make a spectacular living. Both my wife and I work to pay for our children to attend private school. We don't go on vacation. My children have benefited from staying back. They are doing better in school. Neither child is big, but they are athletic. Tell me what I did wrong?
Nothing until you played your son on a team when he is a full year and 6 to 11 months older then the kids he is playing with. I would let you slide if you did not do this until this spring if he is in 8th grade and should be in 9th. Because you would have no where to play spring lacrosse. But if your son was playing with 7th graders when he should of been with 8th graders last spring or any time before this you are a cheater and a punk.
Punk? You must be a very well educated individual based on your use of the English language. I hope your son is getting a better education than you received. When one doesn't have the intellect to put forth a valid argument, they resort to profanity or name calling.
By holding a child back you allow them to mature, both mentally and physically. Does this give them an advantage? Yes it probably does, but that is my duty as a parent, to ensure the success of my child. I would do whatever it takes to help my child succeed. I don't make a spectacular living. Both my wife and I work to pay for our children to attend private school. We don't go on vacation. My children have benefited from staying back. They are doing better in school. Neither child is big, but they are athletic. Tell me what I did wrong?
Setting your son up for success in the classroom is totally different than putting older kids on the field with younger ones. I understand you don't get this concept, since you were probably brought up around it. Kids should be playing against their own age on non-school teams. Bucking the system is not the proper or moral thing to do. Play your kid on age, I'm sure he will still be a good player.
A parent of our club team clued me into this forum. It's like a reality TV show or a car crash. I can't take my eyes off of it. My own son is late August 2001 birthday. In kindergarten, our parish educators recommended he take a pre-first year, before first grade. I was almost insulted by the insinuation that he wasn't ready. I took a breathe and asked other parents who had pre-firsters. They were all happy that they made the decision. I had given no thought to an athletic advantage this might give. Trust me, I don't plan that far ahead. Then we entered the club lacrosse world in 7th grade, just as the grade based environment was becoming widespread. With no more thought than having him play with his friends, we went with the 2020 team. No malice, no forethought. If he was a huge kid that already hit puberty, maybe we would have thought differently. As it is, he's average height (5'6") and probably underweight (123lbs). I don't believe he is at any advantage, but I'm sure some posters will disagree. I'll continue to view the forums for thoughts and advice. There are a few nuggets, the best of which come down to don't live your life through your kid's sports and just let them have fun. Stay frosty.
A parent of our club team clued me into this forum. It's like a reality TV show or a car crash. I can't take my eyes off of it. My own son is late August 2001 birthday. In kindergarten, our parish educators recommended he take a pre-first year, before first grade. I was almost insulted by the insinuation that he wasn't ready. I took a breathe and asked other parents who had pre-firsters. They were all happy that they made the decision. I had given no thought to an athletic advantage this might give. Trust me, I don't plan that far ahead. Then we entered the club lacrosse world in 7th grade, just as the grade based environment was becoming widespread. With no more thought than having him play with his friends, we went with the 2020 team. No malice, no forethought. If he was a huge kid that already hit puberty, maybe we would have thought differently. As it is, he's average height (5'6") and probably underweight (123lbs). I don't believe he is at any advantage, but I'm sure some posters will disagree. I'll continue to view the forums for thoughts and advice. There are a few nuggets, the best of which come down to don't live your life through your kid's sports and just let them have fun. Stay frosty.
thanks for the insight...cheater
I think most people don't have a problem with an August 2001 kid playing 2020, but the Crabs have a kid older than him on their 2021 team....THIS is what people have a problem with.
By holding a child back you allow them to mature, both mentally and physically. Does this give them an advantage? Yes it probably does, but that is my duty as a parent, to ensure the success of my child. I would do whatever it takes to help my child succeed. I don't make a spectacular living. Both my wife and I work to pay for our children to attend private school. We don't go on vacation. My children have benefited from staying back. They are doing better in school. Neither child is big, but they are athletic. Tell me what I did wrong?
Once again you miss the point . Why you held you child back is irrelevant to most people. Good for you that it has helped him with his education. I cant imagine anyone not wishing him well with his studies.
Youth athletics is a different subject, You want your son to have an advantage in youth sports that others do not get?? There is a fairness to youth athletics that is constantly put out by all organizations. Private schools constantly preach values and character education to their students. Do you think it is good character to allow a select few to enjoy an advantage others dont?? Is all your decisions, that whatever is in the interest of helping my son out..I will do it without any moral value associated with it???
My kid is a holdback, attends a private Catholic HS and travels a significant distance to get to HS or stays with friends or coaches. I don't see what the problem is? I am and will continue to to what is best for my family and to help secure my son success in his future. What father wouldn't do the same. Please don't question the way I parent and I won't question you.
You emphasize what is wrong with YOUTH lacrosse. You feel entitled to some advantage most do not get. You are clueless that there is a problem?? No one would cares or questions that you held your son back, we only care that you feel YOUR son is entitled to an advantage at youth lacrosse that the majority of Children dont have. Somehow that logic is missing in your brain.
I don't think entitled means what you think entitled means.
I don't think you know what morals and values mean.
By holding a child back you allow them to mature, both mentally and physically. Does this give them an advantage? Yes it probably does, but that is my duty as a parent, to ensure the success of my child. I would do whatever it takes to help my child succeed. I don't make a spectacular living. Both my wife and I work to pay for our children to attend private school. We don't go on vacation. My children have benefited from staying back. They are doing better in school. Neither child is big, but they are athletic. Tell me what I did wrong?
With your logic, Why not hold him back two years since you are doing whatever it takes to help him succeed?? Hw will be a big time star on the playing field??
Punk? You must be a very well educated individual based on your use of the English language. I hope your son is getting a better education than you received. When one doesn't have the intellect to put forth a valid argument, they resort to profanity or name calling.
I can agree I am not as well educated as you. But I am smart enough to see a cheater and a excuse maker when I see one. If you are so secure in your choices please inform all the parents of your sons age. Now make sure you talk to the parents of the kids your son plays ahead of and gets more playing time then. Then ask them when their son was born and then tell them your sons birthday. If you can do this and sleep then I will leave you alone.
We made the move due to the fact my son was suffering academically. He was immature in that respect. Sure he benefited to some extent athletically, but as I also mentioned, he is small for his age so I don't see the problem. I am not making excuses. I am secure in the decisions we made to help our son. To brush this picture in broads strokes makes no sense and to attack from behind a keyboard shows cowardice.
We made the move due to the fact my son was suffering academically. He was immature in that respect. Sure he benefited to some extent athletically, but as I also mentioned, he is small for his age so I don't see the problem. I am not making excuses. I am secure in the decisions we made to help our son. To brush this picture in broads strokes makes no sense and to attack from behind a keyboard shows cowardice.
Well I would be glad to confront any parent with a hold back son. But no one puts the ages out for anyone to see. So unless someone does a straw poll on the sidelines at a game we never all know for sure. I think most of us would really prefer that there was some kinda rule so you could not cheat. Because if you are on my sons team me calling you a punk to your face would only make for a long year.
I see the rosters of our club kids. All parents know the ages of the kids. You understand the holdback thing is over once you are in HS. The HS tournaments are JVB, JV A, Varsity B and Varsity A. Your club will decide where to put you. We played Varsity A as Sophomores last year. We will do it again this year. No holdbacks just kids and parents that love LAX. Only 3 D1 commits.
As much as I hate the holdback game AND believe me I do. I understand and sympathize with the parent above. I get the need to hold a kid back that is having extremely difficulty academically. However, what I don't get is the systematic approach some of these lacrosse clubs/private schools take in order to gain an unfair and unsportsmanlike advantage on the playing field.
A simple age cutoff like multiple other youth sports would solve this problem.
We made the move due to the fact my son was suffering academically. He was immature in that respect. Sure he benefited to some extent athletically, but as I also mentioned, he is small for his age so I don't see the problem. I am not making excuses. I am secure in the decisions we made to help our son. To brush this picture in broads strokes makes no sense and to attack from behind a keyboard shows cowardice.
Well I would be glad to confront any parent with a hold back son. But no one puts the ages out for anyone to see. So unless someone does a straw poll on the sidelines at a game we never all know for sure. I think most of us would really prefer that there was some kinda rule so you could not cheat. Because if you are on my sons team me calling you a punk to your face would only make for a long year.
You sound very tough. I am the parents of the boys on your son's team are thrilled to have you on the sidelines. More than holdbacks, it is idiot parents like yourself that is ruining the game. I am sure you are the guy with the red solo cup yelling on the sidelines. I feel for your son and anyone that has to put up with your behavior consistently.
By holding a child back you allow them to mature, both mentally and physically. Does this give them an advantage? Yes it probably does, but that is my duty as a parent, to ensure the success of my child. I would do whatever it takes to help my child succeed. I don't make a spectacular living. Both my wife and I work to pay for our children to attend private school. We don't go on vacation. My children have benefited from staying back. They are doing better in school. Neither child is big, but they are athletic. Tell me what I did wrong?
Once again you miss the point . Why you held you child back is irrelevant to most people. Good for you that it has helped him with his education. I cant imagine anyone not wishing him well with his studies.
Youth athletics is a different subject, You want your son to have an advantage in youth sports that others do not get?? There is a fairness to youth athletics that is constantly put out by all organizations. Private schools constantly preach values and character education to their students. Do you think it is good character to allow a select few to enjoy an advantage others dont?? Is all your decisions, that whatever is in the interest of helping my son out..I will do it without any moral value associated with it???
How is what this guy did cheating or morally wrong? People on here call the parent of a holdback a cheater, but he is actually just following the rules of the club and the league. What you are really unhappy with are the rules of the league, which is grade based? Are you suggesting that while the rules state if a kid has a graduation year of 2020, the holdback should be on the 2019 team? That doesn't make sense. If the league were aged based, the kid would be on the proper age team. But it is grade based and he is still on the proper team. I get you are unhappy with the rules but don't call people cheaters or morally wrong who are just following the rules. Attack the league or have your kid play in an aged based league. Don't attack people.
We made the move due to the fact my son was suffering academically. He was immature in that respect. Sure he benefited to some extent athletically, but as I also mentioned, he is small for his age so I don't see the problem. I am not making excuses. I am secure in the decisions we made to help our son. To brush this picture in broads strokes makes no sense and to attack from behind a keyboard shows cowardice.
Well I would be glad to confront any parent with a hold back son. But no one puts the ages out for anyone to see. So unless someone does a straw poll on the sidelines at a game we never all know for sure. I think most of us would really prefer that there was some kinda rule so you could not cheat. Because if you are on my sons team me calling you a punk to your face would only make for a long year.
You sound very tough. I am the parents of the boys on your son's team are thrilled to have you on the sidelines. More than holdbacks, it is idiot parents like yourself that is ruining the game. I am sure you are the guy with the red solo cup yelling on the sidelines. I feel for your son and anyone that has to put up with your behavior consistently.
Good try with the deflect. I am not the tough guy but you should man up and say when a kid is 7th grade or below he should play with the grade he should be in age wise. I am cool with when your holdback son plays with the 8th grade team when he is in 8th grade. And when the colleges start to look at 7th graders then you can play down then. But as of now you are a crappy person for letting your son play down. I agree the rules suck and should have a age cut off. But there is no law for cutting in line at a store but it still makes you a jerk for doing it.
[/quote]How is what this guy did cheating or morally wrong? People on here call the parent of a holdback a cheater, but he is actually just following the rules of the club and the league. What you are really unhappy with are the rules of the league, which is grade based? Are you suggesting that while the rules state if a kid has a graduation year of 2020, the holdback should be on the 2019 team? That doesn't make sense. If the league were aged based, the kid would be on the proper age team. But it is grade based and he is still on the proper team. I get you are unhappy with the rules but don't call people cheaters or morally wrong who are just following the rules. Attack the league or have your kid play in an aged based league. Don't attack people. [/quote]
do you need a tissue? ...cheater!
It is sad that the one poster keeps calling people cheaters. I detect some deep emotional scarring. Maybe his son is watching from the bench, maybe getting a bit of mop-up duty on occasion. Probably verbally assaults his son on the way home from games. Get ready for the "My son is a starter and top scorer on his team, I just hate cheaters" response.
I have a son who started first grade a year late because he had a medical problem. He's big for his age and is a good, not great lacrosse player on a good club team. I'll be candid to write he seems to be at a bit of an advantage now in middle school because he is older and big for his age. Frankly, I'm sick and tired of this too and just agree it would be better for these kids to be on age based teams. For every kid like my son who is not old for his grade for sports reasons there are many who are just for some sports advantages. I agree that is wrong and we should have age based teams. I hear it sometimes that my son is one of those "reclassified" ones. Jesus, when he was 5 I was many years away from hearing the word reclassify for the first time. What am I expected to do? Explain to all the retards out there why my kid started 1st grade late? That is personal and private. That written, I too resent that this sissy play down stuff and agree it is not for best. I don't understand a parent's discretion to hold a kid back for sports reasons. It cheapens everything.
My son isn't overly bright so we held him back a couple of years.
He is the only one shaving on his 2020 team.
The kids mock him, but they sure love it when he runs over everyone and scores
It is sad that the one poster keeps calling people cheaters. I detect some deep emotional scarring. Maybe his son is watching from the bench, maybe getting a bit of mop-up duty on occasion. Probably verbally assaults his son on the way home from games. Get ready for the "My son is a starter and top scorer on his team, I just hate cheaters" response.
Just stop cheating
It is sad that the one poster keeps calling people cheaters. I detect some deep emotional scarring. Maybe his son is watching from the bench, maybe getting a bit of mop-up duty on occasion. Probably verbally assaults his son on the way home from games. Get ready for the "My son is a starter and top scorer on his team, I just hate cheaters" response.
Just stop cheating
I'm the PP of the kid who had an early medical problem which cost him a year of school. I'm not cheating. My son isn't a holdback so he can be recruited, and he likely won't be recruited.
Take this vitriol to the doorsteps where it belongs. Ryan McClernan. Cabell Maddox. Trig. The other Blackwolf guy and the VLC dad/coach lunatics. Write to them and copy every parent on your team. Seek them out and tell them you are sick of this and want age based teams. Solicit advocates for your position here the right way. I, for one, would fully support that. I'd rather have my son on an age based team than witness this absolute trash all the time these days.
Again, for every few kids and parents you are calling a cheater there is the occasional kid who was held back for a medical reason or an academic reason. The problem is this sport has gotten so disgusting it is just too much for me to hope for that my son won't be the target of an occasional snide comment. This may come as a shock, but at some level I can't go finding a fault in people anymore when they say it walks like a duck and squacks like a duck...because it is usually a duck.
So man up and put your energy into that. Maybe it will go well and you will do all of us and this sport a lot of good.
You guys need to shut up. We have a few holdbacks and it's none of your business. Stop hating on Madlax and other clubs who gave holdbacks as we are dominating club lacrosse now.
Should I get you some tissues? LOL.
I have a son who started first grade a year late because he had a medical problem. He's big for his age and is a good, not great lacrosse player on a good club team. I'll be candid to write he seems to be at a bit of an advantage now in middle school because he is older and big for his age. Frankly, I'm sick and tired of this too and just agree it would be better for these kids to be on age based teams. For every kid like my son who is not old for his grade for sports reasons there are many who are just for some sports advantages. I agree that is wrong and we should have age based teams. I hear it sometimes that my son is one of those "reclassified" ones. Jesus, when he was 5 I was many years away from hearing the word reclassify for the first time. What am I expected to do? Explain to all the retards out there why my kid started 1st grade late? That is personal and private. That written, I too resent that this sissy play down stuff and agree it is not for best. I don't understand a parent's discretion to hold a kid back for sports reasons. It cheapens everything.
You could easily play up according to grade which would mean playing at right age. No one is stopping you???
I have a son who started first grade a year late because he had a medical problem. He's big for his age and is a good, not great lacrosse player on a good club team. I'll be candid to write he seems to be at a bit of an advantage now in middle school because he is older and big for his age. Frankly, I'm sick and tired of this too and just agree it would be better for these kids to be on age based teams. For every kid like my son who is not old for his grade for sports reasons there are many who are just for some sports advantages. I agree that is wrong and we should have age based teams. I hear it sometimes that my son is one of those "reclassified" ones. Jesus, when he was 5 I was many years away from hearing the word reclassify for the first time. What am I expected to do? Explain to all the retards out there why my kid started 1st grade late? That is personal and private. That written, I too resent that this sissy play down stuff and agree it is not for best. I don't understand a parent's discretion to hold a kid back for sports reasons. It cheapens everything.
You could easily play up according to grade which would mean playing at right age. No one is stopping you???
Actually, he couldn't. The club owner has it at grade teams. So that is stopping me. Take this to the doorstep where it matters: the club clowns deserve this, not some kid who had a medical problem when he was 5 and 6 years old.
I've come to believe that the right thing prevailing on this issue (which is your position) has not chance because of idiots (like you) arguing the position all wrong. The blame belongs on the club owners who run the leagues and events. Don't feel all better telling me I should just go find an age based league to play in. In lacrosse there aren't any.
I have a son who started first grade a year late because he had a medical problem. He's big for his age and is a good, not great lacrosse player on a good club team. I'll be candid to write he seems to be at a bit of an advantage now in middle school because he is older and big for his age. Frankly, I'm sick and tired of this too and just agree it would be better for these kids to be on age based teams. For every kid like my son who is not old for his grade for sports reasons there are many who are just for some sports advantages. I agree that is wrong and we should have age based teams. I hear it sometimes that my son is one of those "reclassified" ones. Jesus, when he was 5 I was many years away from hearing the word reclassify for the first time. What am I expected to do? Explain to all the retards out there why my kid started 1st grade late? That is personal and private. That written, I too resent that this sissy play down stuff and agree it is not for best. I don't understand a parent's discretion to hold a kid back for sports reasons. It cheapens everything.
You could easily play up according to grade which would mean playing at right age. No one is stopping you???
Actually, he couldn't. The club owner has it at grade teams. So that is stopping me. Take this to the doorstep where it matters: the club clowns deserve this, not some kid who had a medical problem when he was 5 and 6 years old.
I've come to believe that the right thing prevailing on this issue (which is your position) has not chance because of idiots (like you) arguing the position all wrong. The blame belongs on the club owners who run the leagues and events. Don't feel all better telling me I should just go find an age based league to play in. In lacrosse there aren't any.
Are u telling us all that you cant play up?? Like there is some juju that you cant play up! Get real..You and your club owner know what happens when you play up at the right age to USL standards.. Your child is average..No big deal as most kids are, but neither of you want that. Get off your high horse.
By holding a child back you allow them to mature, both mentally and physically. Does this give them an advantage? Yes it probably does, but that is my duty as a parent, to ensure the success of my child. I would do whatever it takes to help my child succeed. I don't make a spectacular living. Both my wife and I work to pay for our children to attend private school. We don't go on vacation. My children have benefited from staying back. They are doing better in school. Neither child is big, but they are athletic. Tell me what I did wrong?
Once again you miss the point . Why you held you child back is irrelevant to most people. Good for you that it has helped him with his education. I cant imagine anyone not wishing him well with his studies.
Youth athletics is a different subject, You want your son to have an advantage in youth sports that others do not get?? There is a fairness to youth athletics that is constantly put out by all organizations. Private schools constantly preach values and character education to their students. Do you think it is good character to allow a select few to enjoy an advantage others dont?? Is all your decisions, that whatever is in the interest of helping my son out..I will do it without any moral value associated with it???
How is what this guy did cheating or morally wrong? People on here call the parent of a holdback a cheater, but he is actually just following the rules of the club and the league. What you are really unhappy with are the rules of the league, which is grade based? Are you suggesting that while the rules state if a kid has a graduation year of 2020, the holdback should be on the 2019 team? That doesn't make sense. If the league were aged based, the kid would be on the proper age team. But it is grade based and he is still on the proper team. I get you are unhappy with the rules but don't call people cheaters or morally wrong who are just following the rules. Attack the league or have your kid play in an aged based league. Don't attack people.
You need to read the entire thing..He said he would do whatever it takes to help his son..I responded with my statement about how that is morally wrong to think that way about everything.
I am tired of these parents justifying the rules and their children are only going by them. If I heard that " I get an advantage and that is that" I wouldnt be happy..But at least the parent would be telling the truth and except it.... Not like most of the BS excuses about why it is ok to have selected kids get an advantage. That BS deserves to be called out.
Absolutely agree keeping your son back for academic reasons what ever they may be illness, maturity etc.. Are all irrelevant and are just for cause. I have a brother with 4 children and out of them 2 have been held back for the above reasons and he has chosen to do so for academic reasons but on all there teams they play on the level they are supposed to be on they do not play down. Academic and youth sports are entirely different. You as a parent have that option if you think otherwise you are in denial. You say your organization doesn't allow it then change organizations, the coach and organization are not at fault you are for allowing your child to continue playing for them. There not forcing you to stay there. Total BS...
Take this vitriol to the doorsteps where it belongs. Ryan McClernan. Cabell Maddox. Trig. The other Blackwolf guy and the VLC dad/coach lunatics.
VLC doesn't have any dads who coach.
Absolutely agree keeping your son back for academic reasons what ever they may be illness, maturity etc.. Are all irrelevant and are just for cause. I have a brother with 4 children and out of them 2 have been held back for the above reasons and he has chosen to do so for academic reasons but on all there teams they play on the level they are supposed to be on they do not play down. Academic and youth sports are entirely different. You as a parent have that option if you think otherwise you are in denial. You say your organization doesn't allow it then change organizations, the coach and organization are not at fault you are for allowing your child to continue playing for them. There not forcing you to stay there. Total BS...
And are his kids playing in age based leagues or grade based? Don't act like he's doing something special if he's just following the rules, just like don't accuse somebody of cheating if they're just following the rules. You have the choice to play on age based teams.
Take this vitriol to the doorsteps where it belongs. Ryan McClernan. Cabell Maddox. Trig. The other Blackwolf guy and the VLC dad/coach lunatics.
VLC doesn't have any dads who coach.
VLC has two parents of HS VLC players who coach. One of them founded the club. They're good people. They'd also be a good audience for this age based stuff. Neither of their boys needed to reclassify as a crutch and they are both excellent players.
This has gotten way out of hand. Of course my son would be only average (if that) on an age based team. He also wrestles (age and weight based) and plays rugby (age based). The club he is with won't play kids up. They slot kids by grade. I could drag him around to find a club that will play him up a grade, but what is the point in that? I'm not going to drive 45 minutes each way to find that kind of fulfillment. I also think the reasoning in his case is flawed. He's not an early recruit. He isn't robbing anyone of their precious looks. He's having fun playing some lacrosse and will play HS lacrosse and that will be it.
What makes lacrosse a horrible sport are the club owners and then the parents are close behind. I didn't make these leagues and events grade based. I have no special responsibility to run around to find a club that will play him differently, and that assumes I could. I'm not sure we could just hop over to another club and be embraced because he's not a standout. I get it that some parents have a notion their kid's experience is being tainted and I completely agree that kids repeating 8th grade in droves is cancerous to the sport. I'm not cheating and my kid isn't a cheater because he was bedridden for a year when he was very young. As much as I'd like to smash the cat calling retards who direct comments his way, it's better to just ignore them. Again, not getting it why the tough guys don't have the moxie to take it to the club owners who run the events and the leagues. Standing up ad being tough would be directing this to them, and THAT would be well deserved.
I'm talking about travel lacrosse not a league. There are multiple clubs everywhere that travel and play up and down the coast. No need to make excuses that he can't play for another organization. I have yet to see a county or state with just one travel team in it and them telling you you can't play where your supposed to and forcing you to play down. Come on..
This has gotten way out of hand. Of course my son would be only average (if that) on an age based team. He also wrestles (age and weight based) and plays rugby (age based). The club he is with won't play kids up. They slot kids by grade. I could drag him around to find a club that will play him up a grade, but what is the point in that? I'm not going to drive 45 minutes each way to find that kind of fulfillment. I also think the reasoning in his case is flawed. He's not an early recruit. He isn't robbing anyone of their precious looks. He's having fun playing some lacrosse and will play HS lacrosse and that will be it.
What makes lacrosse a horrible sport are the club owners and then the parents are close behind. I didn't make these leagues and events grade based. I have no special responsibility to run around to find a club that will play him differently, and that assumes I could. I'm not sure we could just hop over to another club and be embraced because he's not a standout. I get it that some parents have a notion their kid's experience is being tainted and I completely agree that kids repeating 8th grade in droves is cancerous to the sport. I'm not cheating and my kid isn't a cheater because he was bedridden for a year when he was very young. As much as I'd like to smash the cat calling retards who direct comments his way, it's better to just ignore them. Again, not getting it why the tough guys don't have the moxie to take it to the club owners who run the events and the leagues. Standing up ad being tough would be directing this to them, and THAT would be well deserved.
Excuses are just like [lacrosse]holes, everybody has one.
DeMatha over Severn in the 3D Annapolis league championship.
DeMatha over Severn in the 3D Annapolis league championship.
Calverton won the JV division
DeMatha over Severn in the 3D Annapolis league championship.
Calverton won the JV division
What is Calverton?
DeMatha over Severn in the 3D Annapolis league championship.
Calverton won the JV division
What is Calverton?
The high school in southern md
Nobody cares about that league or any of those teams.
This has gotten way out of hand. Of course my son would be only average (if that) on an age based team. He also wrestles (age and weight based) and plays rugby (age based). The club he is with won't play kids up. They slot kids by grade. I could drag him around to find a club that will play him up a grade, but what is the point in that? I'm not going to drive 45 minutes each way to find that kind of fulfillment. I also think the reasoning in his case is flawed. He's not an early recruit. He isn't robbing anyone of their precious looks. He's having fun playing some lacrosse and will play HS lacrosse and that will be it.
What makes lacrosse a horrible sport are the club owners and then the parents are close behind. I didn't make these leagues and events grade based. I have no special responsibility to run around to find a club that will play him differently, and that assumes I could. I'm not sure we could just hop over to another club and be embraced because he's not a standout. I get it that some parents have a notion their kid's experience is being tainted and I completely agree that kids repeating 8th grade in droves is cancerous to the sport. I'm not cheating and my kid isn't a cheater because he was bedridden for a year when he was very young. As much as I'd like to smash the cat calling retards who direct comments his way, it's better to just ignore them. Again, not getting it why the tough guys don't have the moxie to take it to the club owners who run the events and the leagues. Standing up ad being tough would be directing this to them, and THAT would be well deserved.
You are full of it...No one would care if you played up except you and supposedly your club. You because he might not even make team according to you since he is average at age...And the club for same reason plus its wants holdbacks. It is nice that only your child and a few select kids get to enjoy this advantage in YOUTH sports... Do you understand that..only YOU and SELECT kids get to enjoy this advantage in YOUTH sports...That is completely against all that youth sports and lacrosse should represent to our community. And once again no one cares that you held you kid back for whatever reason. We are talking about getting an advantage in youth sports
Nobody cares about that league or any of those teams.
The 3D Annapolis League? You are really out of touch if you don't think that league is a good gauge of how well the teams will do in the spring.
Take this vitriol to the doorsteps where it belongs. Ryan McClernan. Cabell Maddox. Trig. The other Blackwolf guy and the VLC dad/coach lunatics.
VLC doesn't have any dads who coach.
VLC has two parents of HS VLC players who coach. One of them founded the club. They're good people. They'd also be a good audience for this age based stuff. Neither of their boys needed to reclassify as a crutch and they are both excellent players.
True. But when someone says "dad/coach" it implies that a club has a dad who coaches his kid (which is a bad situation). Neither of those guys coach their son at VLC. Big difference.
Take this vitriol to the doorsteps where it belongs. Ryan McClernan. Cabell Maddox. Trig. The other Blackwolf guy and the VLC dad/coach lunatics.
VLC doesn't have any dads who coach.
VLC has two parents of HS VLC players who coach. One of them founded the club. They're good people. They'd also be a good audience for this age based stuff. Neither of their boys needed to reclassify as a crutch and they are both excellent players.
True. But when someone says "dad/coach" it implies that a club has a dad who coaches his kid (which is a bad situation). Neither of those guys coach their son at VLC. Big difference.
I see this post has VLC guys. Can you please give me a update on the VLC teams in the 2019 and 2020 age groups. I know the 2019 team has won some but has played down in A level a lot. Has this team had any turn over of kids going into this summer season? What level does the 2020 team plan to play at this spring in summer. AA or A? And has this team had any turn over of talent? I have two sons who play for another club and we are thinking of moving clubs?
Both are comparable....high A, low AA. Lots of turnover on the 2020 team from last year....not so much on 2019. Fall was a little rough for 2020, but they played really good teams and blew out the Roughriders who had beaten them consistently last year. 2020 offense is out of sync and needs time to gel as you would expect with mostly new players. Hard to get too much going yet with so few practices and so many players (24?), but Langley is helping coach and he is excellent.
Both are comparable....high A, low AA. Lots of turnover on the 2020 team from last year....not so much on 2019. Fall was a little rough for 2020, but they played really good teams and blew out the Roughriders who had beaten them consistently last year. 2020 offense is out of sync and needs time to gel as you would expect with mostly new players. Hard to get too much going yet with so few practices and so many players (24?), but Langley is helping coach and he is excellent.
Roughriders 2020 lost 5 strong players to other clubs and they are not as strong as last year. This was easily seen in a few tournament games last fall. I would guess they are a strong A team this year, not an AA team.
Yeah, they seemed like a different team
Both are comparable....high A, low AA. Lots of turnover on the 2020 team from last year....not so much on 2019. Fall was a little rough for 2020, but they played really good teams and blew out the Roughriders who had beaten them consistently last year. 2020 offense is out of sync and needs time to gel as you would expect with mostly new players. Hard to get too much going yet with so few practices and so many players (24?), but Langley is helping coach and he is excellent.
Thanks for the info. So the 2020 team has lots of new players and they are still at 24. I know they carried a lot last year. Where did they new players come from and where did the old ones go. Also by reading your post there does not seem to be any open spots on either team 2020 or 2019? This is a hard age to change clubs. I think I will have to ride it out with my club.
I doubt 2020 will pick up anyone but they do need another goalie (just 1). 2019 has fewer so they might. Either could lose a few this spring....I'm sure that happens every year. I agree...tough to swap.
A couple of the new 2020 VLC players came from Next Level 2020. They would have been on the 'B' team and didn't want to make the trip out from VA for that
Thanks for the info. So the 2020 team has lots of new players and they are still at 24. I know they carried a lot last year. Where did they new players come from and where did the old ones go. Also by reading your post there does not seem to be any open spots on either team 2020 or 2019? This is a hard age to change clubs. I think I will have to ride it out with my club.
VLC holds tryouts for the whole year in the Fall - that being said, I know they entertain individual tryouts depending on the circumstances. So, for instance, they need a 2nd goalie or an extra pole, etc. I would inquire with the coaching staff at VLC.
It is true the team needs to gel - on both sides of the ball. Lots of new kids, very limited practices. I'm not sure about Next Level, but kids came from Club Blue, Cavs and I believe Madlax. A few kids who played up on 2019 last year remained as well. Overall, a good base of talent, just have to get reps in.
Thanks for the info. So the 2020 team has lots of new players and they are still at 24. I know they carried a lot last year. Where did they new players come from and where did the old ones go. Also by reading your post there does not seem to be any open spots on either team 2020 or 2019? This is a hard age to change clubs. I think I will have to ride it out with my club.
VLC holds tryouts for the whole year in the Fall - that being said, I know they entertain individual tryouts depending on the circumstances. So, for instance, they need a 2nd goalie or an extra pole, etc. I would inquire with the coaching staff at VLC.
It is true the team needs to gel - on both sides of the ball. Lots of new kids, very limited practices. I'm not sure about Next Level, but kids came from Club Blue, Cavs and I believe Madlax. A few kids who played up on 2019 last year remained as well. Overall, a good base of talent, just have to get reps in.
I will be very interested to see how this spring works out I think the top of the 2020 class in NOVA is way to spread out. Most years 10 of the top 15 players find there way on to one team. But it feels like the top 15 kids in NOVA are spread out between 5 or 6 teams. So my guess would be that no team from the NOVA area will win anything at the 2020 class. Just look at the success of VLC 2017, Madlax 2019, These years the top players found a way to end up on the same team.
Thanks for the info. So the 2020 team has lots of new players and they are still at 24. I know they carried a lot last year. Where did they new players come from and where did the old ones go. Also by reading your post there does not seem to be any open spots on either team 2020 or 2019? This is a hard age to change clubs. I think I will have to ride it out with my club.
VLC holds tryouts for the whole year in the Fall - that being said, I know they entertain individual tryouts depending on the circumstances. So, for instance, they need a 2nd goalie or an extra pole, etc. I would inquire with the coaching staff at VLC.
It is true the team needs to gel - on both sides of the ball. Lots of new kids, very limited practices. I'm not sure about Next Level, but kids came from Club Blue, Cavs and I believe Madlax. A few kids who played up on 2019 last year remained as well. Overall, a good base of talent, just have to get reps in.
I will be very interested to see how this spring works out I think the top of the 2020 class in NOVA is way to spread out. Most years 10 of the top 15 players find there way on to one team. But it feels like the top 15 kids in NOVA are spread out between 5 or 6 teams. So my guess would be that no team from the NOVA area will win anything at the 2020 class. Just look at the success of VLC 2017, Madlax 2019, These years the top players found a way to end up on the same team.
I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on why the talent is spread out this class. Is it because the younger kids want to be the star and not have to compete with others on the same team. Or have the top 6 NOVA clubs all done a better job of selling themselves to the local kids to talk them into staying with the team closer to the house?
Or are all the top kids just waiting there time to be old enough to play for Blackwolf then they will come together on one team?
Re: 2020 Talent Spread
I think there is a combination of issues. A top one is brand loyalty - for whatever reason a few kids have fallen in love (and vice versa) with their club. If so and so is the star of the show and gets what he needs, why move? If so and so does not need to pay full freight for his current club, why move? If I live in NOVA, why go another 20 miles for lax when the training is fine here?
BW is tough. He's a great coach and very demanding. There are parents that are too afraid to even approach him about their son plus the mystique.
BW and VLC suffer from a lack of training and playing (tournaments after the spring). VLC is the step-child for the Crabs but may provide an opportunity for NLF, WYSL, etc. that other clubs cannot. However, without the muscle down here to find fields and invested in improving the teams, the players do not get the repetition they would get at Next Level, Club Blue or Madlax.
Thoughts?
I agree. Good analysis on all points. Northern Va is tough....very few choices for youth to get quality lax without a myriad of undesirable factors. There are very few quality rec programs, but there ARE a few in the area which complicates things because a quality rec program is an exceptional value....about $250 vice $2000+. Madlax is comprehensive, but is a LOT of $$$ and Maddux's issues don't help, both of which hurt the club at the high school level. VLC just does not have the coaches at the youth level to provide a quality club-only model like one sees in Maryland. They DO excel at the high school level though as witnessed by their 2015 and 2017 teams, mostly because they are very consistent, they get kids good quality looks in front of quality college coaches, and they put a very good face on their organization (website, Facebook, quality coaches, etc). I think 2020 VLC may very well follow that model. One can never count out Trig though and you are right, he is not for everyone....some kids respond well to that and some don't. Madlax just seems to have a hard time in that year group, probably due in part to the unforgettable email and partly because it's a thin year group. Time will tell, but those 3 are really the only game in town in northern Va for club lax.
I agree. Good analysis on all points. Northern Va is tough....very few choices for youth to get quality lax without a myriad of undesirable factors. There are very few quality rec programs, but there ARE a few in the area which complicates things because a quality rec program is an exceptional value....about $250 vice $2000+. Madlax is comprehensive, but is a LOT of $$$ and Maddux's issues don't help, both of which hurt the club at the high school level. VLC just does not have the coaches at the youth level to provide a quality club-only model like one sees in Maryland. They DO excel at the high school level though as witnessed by their 2015 and 2017 teams, mostly because they are very consistent, they get kids good quality looks in front of quality college coaches, and they put a very good face on their organization (website, Facebook, quality coaches, etc). I think 2020 VLC may very well follow that model. One can never count out Trig though and you are right, he is not for everyone....some kids respond well to that and some don't. Madlax just seems to have a hard time in that year group, probably due in part to the unforgettable email and partly because it's a thin year group. Time will tell, but those 3 are really the only game in town in northern Va for club lax.
I agree with the last two guys for sure. So who would agree with this statement? If your son plays for 3D Mid Atlantic,Cavs, Battlelax, Fuze, and I am sure I am leaving some off. And your son is a high starter on these teams you should be trying out for VLC,Blackwolf and Madlax every year if your son is serious about lacrosse. I ask because I know for a fact people come to this site to help pick where and what they plan to do with there son and his travel team path.
I agree. Good analysis on all points. Northern Va is tough....very few choices for youth to get quality lax without a myriad of undesirable factors. There are very few quality rec programs, but there ARE a few in the area which complicates things because a quality rec program is an exceptional value....about $250 vice $2000+. Madlax is comprehensive, but is a LOT of $$$ and Maddux's issues don't help, both of which hurt the club at the high school level. VLC just does not have the coaches at the youth level to provide a quality club-only model like one sees in Maryland. They DO excel at the high school level though as witnessed by their 2015 and 2017 teams, mostly because they are very consistent, they get kids good quality looks in front of quality college coaches, and they put a very good face on their organization (website, Facebook, quality coaches, etc). I think 2020 VLC may very well follow that model. One can never count out Trig though and you are right, he is not for everyone....some kids respond well to that and some don't. Madlax just seems to have a hard time in that year group, probably due in part to the unforgettable email and partly because it's a thin year group. Time will tell, but those 3 are really the only game in town in northern Va for club lax.
Disagree about VLC's youth coaches. Both of those guys are excellent coaches and role models. From what I see, VLC suffers because they don't have a U9 and U11 team, so they usually don't have strong 7th grade teams because the best players have been locked up. That's why their MS teams usually aren't that great, but their HS teams are strong because the talent pool gets bigger.
Same with Blackwolf.
I don't think it ever hurts to tryout and see. Sometimes it may impact your kid's confidence and/or well being, but it's always good to take a look see. Leaving is more complicated because the aforementioned "brand loyalty" is a factor. Your kid has friends and is comfortable in a given situation and the coaches know him and he is getting quality playing time. Why mess with a good thing? You should also factor in the clubs involvement with HS teams/schools and colleges if that's a concern. It would suck to switch and go from a being a starter to a sub behind an equal or lesser player who has simply been there longer and has the coach's trust (or will play for that coach at his HS team). On the other hand, if the kid would shine in higher play and better competition, then that would be great. It just depends. Club wise, there are no Blackwolf tryouts....he wil find you...part of the "mystique". VLC is pretty loyal to past players and is tied in pretty close to Paul VI....they are also less instructive than the others. Madlax is a known quantity, but I get the sense that there is at least some loyalty to past players as well. I don't think any "rule" applies....it just depends on the kid, his goals, and what grad year team he is on.
I don't think it ever hurts to tryout and see. Sometimes it may impact your kid's confidence and/or well being, but it's always good to take a look see. Leaving is more complicated because the aforementioned "brand loyalty" is a factor. Your kid has friends and is comfortable in a given situation and the coaches know him and he is getting quality playing time. Why mess with a good thing? You should also factor in the clubs involvement with HS teams/schools and colleges if that's a concern. It would suck to switch and go from a being a starter to a sub behind an equal or lesser player who has simply been there longer and has the coach's trust (or will play for that coach at his HS team). On the other hand, if the kid would shine in higher play and better competition, then that would be great. It just depends. Club wise, there are no Blackwolf tryouts....he wil find you...part of the "mystique". VLC is pretty loyal to past players and is tied in pretty close to Paul VI....they are also less instructive than the others. Madlax is a known quantity, but I get the sense that there is at least some loyalty to past players as well. I don't think any "rule" applies....it just depends on the kid, his goals, and what grad year team he is on.
I can understand all of this post. But as a guy who has had 2 sons play for Madlax for many years. They play who they think is the best and keep the kids they think are the best. You can look at the Capital teams rosters and see where the kids go to high school. They keep Public school kids over Private all the time. I have seen kids be there top FOGO for 4 years and if a kid comes along better he plays. I think this is one of the main reasons there is such hate for Madlax out in the other clubs. Along with the Crazy owner we know we know.
I agree. Good analysis on all points. Northern Va is tough....very few choices for youth to get quality lax without a myriad of undesirable factors. There are very few quality rec programs, but there ARE a few in the area which complicates things because a quality rec program is an exceptional value....about $250 vice $2000+. Madlax is comprehensive, but is a LOT of $$$ and Maddux's issues don't help, both of which hurt the club at the high school level. VLC just does not have the coaches at the youth level to provide a quality club-only model like one sees in Maryland. They DO excel at the high school level though as witnessed by their 2015 and 2017 teams, mostly because they are very consistent, they get kids good quality looks in front of quality college coaches, and they put a very good face on their organization (website, Facebook, quality coaches, etc). I think 2020 VLC may very well follow that model. One can never count out Trig though and you are right, he is not for everyone....some kids respond well to that and some don't. Madlax just seems to have a hard time in that year group, probably due in part to the unforgettable email and partly because it's a thin year group. Time will tell, but those 3 are really the only game in town in northern Va for club lax.
Disagree about VLC's youth coaches. Both of those guys are excellent coaches and role models. From what I see, VLC suffers because they don't have a U9 and U11 team, so they usually don't have strong 7th grade teams because the best players have been locked up. That's why their MS teams usually aren't that great, but their HS teams are strong because the talent pool gets bigger.
Same with Blackwolf.
Sorry, I wasn't saying that VLC MS coaches are not quality coaches....both are excellent. Quantity is the issue here as middle school VLC coaches are generally on their own vice other clubs that have 2 or more coaches. Agree with other points....well said.
VLC mystique? That is actually very funny. They've had two good HS teams in the past 5 years. For a while in some grades it was easy to poach kids in middle school from other clubs based on rec team friendships or school ties. But that is a hard model to sustain and it is fair to say it didn't sustain at VLC. The lack of resources to hire more non parent coaches for middle school teams and the complete absence of youth teams makes it impossible. I would wager the real competition to Madlax is the revamped Next Level club.
Re: 2020 Talent Spread
I think there is a combination of issues. A top one is brand loyalty - for whatever reason a few kids have fallen in love (and vice versa) with their club. If so and so is the star of the show and gets what he needs, why move? If so and so does not need to pay full freight for his current club, why move? If I live in NOVA, why go another 20 miles for lax when the training is fine here?
BW is tough. He's a great coach and very demanding. There are parents that are too afraid to even approach him about their son plus the mystique.
BW and VLC suffer from a lack of training and playing (tournaments after the spring). VLC is the step-child for the Crabs but may provide an opportunity for NLF, WYSL, etc. that other clubs cannot. However, without the muscle down here to find fields and invested in improving the teams, the players do not get the repetition they would get at Next Level, Club Blue or Madlax.
Thoughts?
Agreed. I think the biggest issue with VLC 2020 is practice and reps. The 2020 team is basically a new group. In the Fall, there was one 2 hour practice a week + tournaments. Not a whole lot of time to gel and prepare, kids missing practice for football, etc.
I think it'll be a better showing this spring/summer after the kids get more practices in ... and if things don't improve, I suspect kids will peel off to Blackwolf, Madlax etc. Another challenge this spring will be HoCo having 2020 games on Saturdays (assuming that is the case). NoVA rec league games are Saturday games as well. Not sure how VLC, Madlax, 3D etc. will handle that logistical nightmare.
VLC mystique? That is actually very funny. They've had two good HS teams in the past 5 years. For a while in some grades it was easy to poach kids in middle school from other clubs based on rec team friendships or school ties. But that is a hard model to sustain and it is fair to say it didn't sustain at VLC. The lack of resources to hire more non parent coaches for middle school teams and the complete absence of youth teams makes it impossible. I would wager the real competition to Madlax is the revamped Next Level club.
I have an eldest son who played Madlax throughout, a younger son who did both Madlax and VLC and have several friends with kids in the VLC program right now, and your post has several inaccuracies.
VLC has had several very good teams.
2014 - VLC was better than Madlax (we saw it firsthand)
2015 - VLC was much better than Madlax
2016 - VLC was better than Madlax
2017 - VLC is much better than Madlax
2018 - Madlax is the better team (though someone said that team is breaking apart, but no idea if that's true)
2019 - Madlax has a much better team
So in six classes, VLC had a better team than Madlax four times.
Unlike BW, VLC has never poached any kids. Where did you get that?
Cannons 2022 over Rough Riders 2022 in double OT in Goals box league.
Next level is well above Madlax in 2020.
I can understand all of this post. But as a guy who has had 2 sons play for Madlax for many years. They play who they think is the best and keep the kids they think are the best. You can look at the Capital teams rosters and see where the kids go to high school. They keep Public school kids over Private all the time. I have seen kids be there top FOGO for 4 years and if a kid comes along better he plays. I think this is one of the main reasons there is such hate for Madlax out in the other clubs. Along with the Crazy owner we know we know.
Hate for Madlax because they play the best players? Are you saying Madlax is unique in that respect? Please. Every club plays the best players possible (at least BW and VLC do). That is not something unique to Madlax.
Next level is well above Madlax in 2020.
Based on what?
I can understand all of this post. But as a guy who has had 2 sons play for Madlax for many years. They play who they think is the best and keep the kids they think are the best. You can look at the Capital teams rosters and see where the kids go to high school. They keep Public school kids over Private all the time. I have seen kids be there top FOGO for 4 years and if a kid comes along better he plays. I think this is one of the main reasons there is such hate for Madlax out in the other clubs. Along with the Crazy owner we know we know.
Hate for Madlax because they play the best players? Are you saying Madlax is unique in that respect? Please. Every club plays the best players possible (at least BW and VLC do). That is not something unique to Madlax.
The poster was saying Madlax shows favoritism to returning kids. I was just responding to that.
VLC mystique? That is actually very funny. They've had two good HS teams in the past 5 years. For a while in some grades it was easy to poach kids in middle school from other clubs based on rec team friendships or school ties. But that is a hard model to sustain and it is fair to say it didn't sustain at VLC. The lack of resources to hire more non parent coaches for middle school teams and the complete absence of youth teams makes it impossible. I would wager the real competition to Madlax is the revamped Next Level club.
I have an eldest son who played Madlax throughout, a younger son who did both Madlax and VLC and have several friends with kids in the VLC program right now, and your post has several inaccuracies.
VLC has had several very good teams.
2014 - VLC was better than Madlax (we saw it firsthand)
2015 - VLC was much better than Madlax
2016 - VLC was better than Madlax
2017 - VLC is much better than Madlax
2018 - Madlax is the better team (though someone said that team is breaking apart, but no idea if that's true)
2019 - Madlax has a much better team
So in six classes, VLC had a better team than Madlax four times.
Unlike BW, VLC has never poached any kids. Where did you get that?
Do you realize that 3 of these 6 teams are no longer a team. So with the 3 left the one VLC team are playing there last games this summer. So that leaves two Madlax teams as better then VLC. So this tells me Madlax will be clearly better. Also those teams you have listed as better then Madlax have several players who used to play for Madlax.
For 2020 - the year in the thread regarding the BW mystique (definitely not VLC), Madlax Orange/Capital is better than VLC but not by much. The Next Level infusion has not happened as it has previous year to shore up Madlax.
Another factor is that four guys are playing for BW 2019 so have jumped ship earlier than normal.
VLC mystique? That is actually very funny. They've had two good HS teams in the past 5 years. For a while in some grades it was easy to poach kids in middle school from other clubs based on rec team friendships or school ties. But that is a hard model to sustain and it is fair to say it didn't sustain at VLC. The lack of resources to hire more non parent coaches for middle school teams and the complete absence of youth teams makes it impossible. I would wager the real competition to Madlax is the revamped Next Level club.
Just to add to the previous post, I've personally witnessed madlax beat both the 2014 team at the tri-state tournament, and the 2017 team. 2016 was a weak year for both madlax and vlc, would likely be a good match up if they ever played one another.
I have an eldest son who played Madlax throughout, a younger son who did both Madlax and VLC and have several friends with kids in the VLC program right now, and your post has several inaccuracies.
VLC has had several very good teams.
2014 - VLC was better than Madlax (we saw it firsthand)
2015 - VLC was much better than Madlax
2016 - VLC was better than Madlax
2017 - VLC is much better than Madlax
2018 - Madlax is the better team (though someone said that team is breaking apart, but no idea if that's true)
2019 - Madlax has a much better team
So in six classes, VLC had a better team than Madlax four times.
Unlike BW, VLC has never poached any kids. Where did you get that?
Do you realize that 3 of these 6 teams are no longer a team. So with the 3 left the one VLC team are playing there last games this summer. So that leaves two Madlax teams as better then VLC. So this tells me Madlax will be clearly better. Also those teams you have listed as better then Madlax have several players who used to play for Madlax.
For 2020 - the year in the thread regarding the BW mystique (definitely not VLC), Madlax Orange/Capital is better than VLC but not by much. The Next Level infusion has not happened as it has previous year to shore up Madlax.
Another factor is that four guys are playing for BW 2019 so have jumped ship earlier than normal.
No. My son plays for Madlax 2020, and even we know that Madlax is third in this area behind Next Level and VLC. For whatever reason, Madlax doesn't have a grip on the 2020s in this area.
For 2020 - the year in the thread regarding the BW mystique (definitely not VLC), Madlax Orange/Capital is better than VLC but not by much. The Next Level infusion has not happened as it has previous year to shore up Madlax.
Another factor is that four guys are playing for BW 2019 so have jumped ship earlier than normal.
No. My son plays for Madlax 2020, and even we know that Madlax is third in this area behind Next Level and VLC. For whatever reason, Madlax doesn't have a grip on the 2020s in this area.
My guess is Madlax has a very strong 2019 class. So when we where still doing U11,U13 and U15 age groups the kids who fell into the 2020 team left Madlax or never went to Madlax because they would have not been on the top team with the U13 age brackets not 2020/2019 brackets. But I really think its just 2020 is way more spread out then the other older classes. I have no idea what is coming down the pipe with the 2021,2022 and 2023. I am 100% sure that Madlax will have the best 2024 team for the next 8 years or so because that is the team the owners sons play on. And I know they are a really strong team now.
Madlax 2021 was really good a few years ago and then just vanished. Odd. They were really great competition for some of the AA teams in the area.
Madlax 2022 is one of best teams in US
That was the Madlax U11 team a few years ago. It was made up of both 2021 and 2022 players. They are for the most part still with Madlax, but the split to single-year teams left 2021 less competitive.
Madlax 2021 was really good a few years ago and then just vanished. Odd. They were really great competition for some of the AA teams in the area.
When Madlax 2021 was still Madlax U11 they were a great team - went undefeated over the summer
The team split up when the area went grade base - the attack went to 2022 and a couple of their players left the program
They are so good that they came in third in the league last year and got humiliated by newby 3D at their own fall tournament!
Crabs 2022 will be very strong too
Madlax 2022 is one of best teams in US
Not even top 10
They are so good that they came in third in the league last year and got humiliated by newby 3D at their own fall tournament!
If 3D is so good why are they playing in A and not AA in HoCo?
Madlax 2022 lost to 3D in their Fall Tourney? They won the over Crabs 2022. Were they missing players for their own Fall Tourney or has 3D improved?
Madlax is best team in DMV...and by virtue of that position, will be one of strongest teams in US....and Crabs beat Madlax earlier in the day in that tournament
What top 2022 team has crabs beat?
What top 2022 team has madlax best
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
Very good point with this age bracket it is best to wait tell after summer. The summer team is the full real team 99% of the time.
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
Very good point with this age bracket it is best to wait tell after summer. The summer team is the full real team 99% of the time.
HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players. You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place.
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
Very good point with this age bracket it is best to wait tell after summer. The summer team is the full real team 99% of the time.
HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players. You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place.
I forgot for a sec that HOCO is going to be stacked this year. I guess the real question is what great to real good club is not going to be in HOCO this year.
So going into the summer the winner of the HOCO will be looking to beat the top Canadian and NY/NJ team. I think this new HOCo will help with the TOP 5 clubs at each grade level poles.
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
Very good point with this age bracket it is best to wait tell after summer. The summer team is the full real team 99% of the time.
HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players.
[b]You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place. [/b]
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
Very good point with this age bracket it is best to wait tell after summer. The summer team is the full real team 99% of the time.
HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players.
[b]You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place. [/b]
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
That's okay because you will get to play the Blue team this year since you whined so much to get into the bracket.
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
Very good point with this age bracket it is best to wait tell after summer. The summer team is the full real team 99% of the time.
HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players.
[b]You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place. [/b]
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
That's okay because you will get to play the Blue team this year since you whined so much to get into the bracket.
Can't wait! Bring it twinkle toes
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
Very good point with this age bracket it is best to wait tell after summer. The summer team is the full real team 99% of the time.
HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players.
[b]You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place. [/b]
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
That's okay because you will get to play the Blue team this year since you whined so much to get into the bracket.
Is FCA BLUE going to play against all "A" level teams again this year in Koopers league, or will they finally challenge themselves? Shame you only compete in 1 league against top talent. It was a true show of character last year FCA BLUE playing the Koopers league against "A" teams and bringing down the 2019 goalie as well. True class there!
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
Very good point with this age bracket it is best to wait tell after summer. The summer team is the full real team 99% of the time.
HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players.
[b]You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place. [/b]
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
That's okay because you will get to play the Blue team this year since you whined so much to get into the bracket.
I assume that by you saying "That's okay" that you are admitting that FCA brings their AA team to A tournaments when necessary/needed. Thought so.
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
Very good point with this age bracket it is best to wait tell after summer. The summer team is the full real team 99% of the time.
HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players.
[b]You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place. [/b]
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
That's okay because you will get to play the Blue team this year since you whined so much to get into the bracket.
Is FCA BLUE going to play against all "A" level teams again this year in Koopers league, or will they finally challenge themselves? Shame you only compete in 1 league against top talent. It was a true show of character last year FCA BLUE playing the Koopers league against "A" teams and bringing down the 2019 goalie as well. True class there!
There was only one bracket for the 8 teams in the 2020 Koopers league last year so AA and A teams were mixed so your point is lost except that you are still bitter. Other AA teams participated in that same bracket including your own club. Take it up with Koopers who could not draw the teams in to separate A from AA.
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
Very good point with this age bracket it is best to wait tell after summer. The summer team is the full real team 99% of the time.
HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players.
[b]You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place. [/b]
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
That's okay because you will get to play the Blue team this year since you whined so much to get into the bracket.
I assume that by you saying "That's okay" that you are admitting that FCA brings their AA team to A tournaments when necessary/needed. Thought so.
Sometimes you need to fill open slots rather than forfeit. I am assuming you would rather have a win by forfeit than actually play a team and earn a win. FCA doesn't really focus on wins and losses but on preparing their players for HS and further on college lacrosse. Look at the commitments in the 17 and 18 classes. Anyone who thinks FCA is focused on W's is off base and ignorant of the focus of the club.
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
Very good point with this age bracket it is best to wait tell after summer. The summer team is the full real team 99% of the time.
HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players.
[b]You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place. [/b]
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
quick question for mr or mrs ex-breaker white/91P - Did you have any "guest" players for that 4th of July weekend?
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HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players. [b]You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place. [/b]
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
That's okay because you will get to play the Blue team this year since you whined so much to get into the bracket.
I assume that by you saying "That's okay" that you are admitting that FCA brings their AA team to A tournaments when necessary/needed. Thought so.
Sometimes you need to fill open slots rather than forfeit. I am assuming you would rather have a win by forfeit than actually play a team and earn a win. FCA doesn't really focus on wins and losses but on preparing their players for HS and further on college lacrosse. Look at the commitments in the 17 and 18 classes. Anyone who thinks FCA is focused on W's is off base and ignorant of the focus of the club.
Why did they have to fill slots?
Shame that FCA advises the tournaments their teams will compete ahead of time for scheduling purposes, however can't get commitment from the players or families to show up and play. Speaks volumes on the program and what families actually think of it.
Though watching the FCA White coach at indoor and the disgrace he was, I wouldn't allow my kid to play for him. Yelling and screaming during indoor, turning his backs on the kids...truly pathetic and not very Christian.
[quote=Anonymous
HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players. [b]You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place. [/b]
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
That's okay because you will get to play the Blue team this year since you whined so much to get into the bracket.
I assume that by you saying "That's okay" that you are admitting that FCA brings their AA team to A tournaments when necessary/needed. Thought so.
Sometimes you need to fill open slots rather than forfeit. I am assuming you would rather have a win by forfeit than actually play a team and earn a win. FCA doesn't really focus on wins and losses but on preparing their players for HS and further on college lacrosse. Look at the commitments in the 17 and 18 classes. Anyone who thinks FCA is focused on W's is off base and ignorant of the focus of the club.
Why did they have to fill slots?
Shame that FCA advises the tournaments their teams will compete ahead of time for scheduling purposes, however can't get commitment from the players or families to show up and play. Speaks volumes on the program and what families actually think of it.
Though watching the FCA White coach at indoor and the disgrace he was, I wouldn't allow my kid to play for him. Yelling and screaming during indoor, turning his backs on the kids...truly pathetic and not very Christian.
Speaking of indoors, the game before my sons game, FCA White was scheduled to play but they did not show up, not one player and I'm told the team they were suppose to play had no notice they were not going to be available to play. That speaks volumes for the FCA group. Christian, who knows, their actions seem to go opposite of that.
I assume that by you saying "That's okay" that you are admitting that FCA brings their AA team to A tournaments when necessary/needed. Thought so. [/quote]
Sometimes you need to fill open slots rather than forfeit. I am assuming you would rather have a win by forfeit than actually play a team and earn a win. FCA doesn't really focus on wins and losses but on preparing their players for HS and further on college lacrosse. Look at the commitments in the 17 and 18 classes. Anyone who thinks FCA is focused on W's is off base and ignorant of the focus of the club.[/quote]
Were they all 2020? Yes. Were those kids rostered on another team's roster for that tournament? No. Moving same age players between teams up or down on a club is not unheard of to fill vacancies as long as the rules are followed. At least they did not take a page from the Crabs book and bring down older players.
I assume that by you saying "That's okay" that you are admitting that FCA brings their AA team to A tournaments when necessary/needed. Thought so.
Sometimes you need to fill open slots rather than forfeit. I am assuming you would rather have a win by forfeit than actually play a team and earn a win. FCA doesn't really focus on wins and losses but on preparing their players for HS and further on college lacrosse. Look at the commitments in the 17 and 18 classes. Anyone who thinks FCA is focused on W's is off base and ignorant of the focus of the club.[/quote]
Were they all 2020? Yes. Were those kids rostered on another team's roster for that tournament? No. Moving same age players between teams up or down on a club is not unheard of to fill vacancies as long as the rules are followed. At least they did not take a page from the Crabs book and bring down older players. [/quote]
bring "AA" players down to an "A" team and playing in an "A" tournament is just as bad as holdbacks. I'm sure some of the "AA" players were either holdbacks or prefirst as well...its the FCA WAY!
People relax. I know the coaches and am a coach. It didn't bother me.
Who cares if AA players are "playing down" to A to field a club's B team? If they are on age, there is no problem. Every club who has B teams does this. Whining about this weakens the legitimate problems people have here with youth lacrosse....mainly the holdbacks.
People relax. I know the coaches and am a coach. It didn't bother me.
It sure bothered the coach on the receiving end - everyone heard about it then and now.
People relax. I know the coaches and am a coach. It didn't bother me.
It sure bothered the coach on the receiving end - everyone heard about it then and now.
Did said coach not recruit his own guest players for that tournament?
Crabs bull roast this weekend. I heard the 2020 are the valets
[quote=Anonymous]Who cares if AA players are "playing down" to A to field a club's B team? If they are on age, there is no problem. Every club who has B teams does this. Whining about this weakens the legitimate problems people have here with youth lacrosse....mainly the holdbacks. [/quote
It's cheating using fingers! Why have AA, A and B if you aren't going to be held to that!
[quote=Anonymous]Who cares if AA players are "playing down" to A to field a club's B team? If they are on age, there is no problem. Every club who has B teams does this. Whining about this weakens the legitimate problems people have here with youth lacrosse....mainly the holdbacks. [/quote
It's cheating using fingers! Why have AA, A and B if you aren't going to be held to that!
The level you play in a tournament is chosen by the coach and is subjective-unlike age. If they were all 2020 and not dual rostered in the tourney, it is standard practice to fill in. You have to move past it Coach.
[quote=Anonymous]Who cares if AA players are "playing down" to A to field a club's B team? If they are on age, there is no problem. Every club who has B teams does this. Whining about this weakens the legitimate problems people have here with youth lacrosse....mainly the holdbacks. [/quote
It's cheating using fingers! Why have AA, A and B if you aren't going to be held to that!
The level you play in a tournament is chosen by the coach and is subjective-unlike age. If they were all 2020 and not dual rostered in the tourney, it is standard practice to fill in. You have to move past it Coach.
FCA = Federation of Cheating A$$'s
If a kid makes a "AA" team he shouldn't be permitted to play down on "A", however if a kid is an "A" player, he can play up on "AA".
It's a shame the only tournament 2020 FCA won last year was with the FCA White team with a handful of "AA" players. True class, can't compete with the big boys in "AA" so play against "A" teams. Did Ryan teach you that?
[quote=Anonymous]Who cares if AA players are "playing down" to A to field a club's B team? If they are on age, there is no problem. Every club who has B teams does this. Whining about this weakens the legitimate problems people have here with youth lacrosse....mainly the holdbacks. [/quote
It's cheating using fingers! Why have AA, A and B if you aren't going to be held to that!
The level you play in a tournament is chosen by the coach and is subjective-unlike age. If they were all 2020 and not dual rostered in the tourney, it is standard practice to fill in. You have to move past it Coach.
You and your son need to find a team/league where every player gets a trophy.
If a kid makes a "AA" team he shouldn't be permitted to play down on "A", however if a kid is an "A" player, he can play up on "AA".
It's a shame the only tournament 2020 FCA won last year was with the FCA White team with a handful of "AA" players. True class, can't compete with the big boys in "AA" so play against "A" teams. Did Ryan teach you that?
Can we move on coach as you are not getting the reaction you had hoped for. You lost for whatever reasons but it is time to move on. Hopefully, your kids are handling it better. Aren't you a "big boy in AA" this year? You can strut your stuff and give FCA dirty looks.
If a kid makes a "AA" team he shouldn't be permitted to play down on "A", however if a kid is an "A" player, he can play up on "AA".
It's a shame the only tournament 2020 FCA won last year was with the FCA White team with a handful of "AA" players. True class, can't compete with the big boys in "AA" so play against "A" teams. Did Ryan teach you that?
Can we move on coach as you are not getting the reaction you had hoped for. You lost for whatever reasons but it is time to move on. Hopefully, your kids are handling it better. Aren't you a "big boy in AA" this year? You can strut your stuff and give FCA dirty looks.
This is just another example of how US LAX doesn't govern their sport.
Why does FCA White seem to have difficulty showing up to tournaments or games? Why isn't the commitment there? Is this the reason Blue hasn't won anything, they have commitment issues as well?
If a kid makes a "AA" team he shouldn't be permitted to play down on "A", however if a kid is an "A" player, he can play up on "AA".
It's a shame the only tournament 2020 FCA won last year was with the FCA White team with a handful of "AA" players. True class, can't compete with the big boys in "AA" so play against "A" teams. Did Ryan teach you that?
Your son should go back to playing video games...you never die and can restart any time you want.
If a kid makes a "AA" team he shouldn't be permitted to play down on "A", however if a kid is an "A" player, he can play up on "AA".
It's a shame the only tournament 2020 FCA won last year was with the FCA White team with a handful of "AA" players. True class, can't compete with the big boys in "AA" so play against "A" teams. Did Ryan teach you that?
Your son should go back to playing video games...you never die and can restart any time you want.
You should be a better husband to your wife, tired of her calling me while your at work.
You should be a better husband to your wife, tired of her calling me while your at work.
"you're", not "your".
She told me in bed last night that she's tired of being married to an uneducated idiot.
If a kid makes a "AA" team he shouldn't be permitted to play down on "A", however if a kid is an "A" player, he can play up on "AA".
It's a shame the only tournament 2020 FCA won last year was with the FCA White team with a handful of "AA" players. True class, can't compete with the big boys in "AA" so play against "A" teams. Did Ryan teach you that?
Your son should go back to playing video games...you never die and can restart any time you want.
You should be a better husband to your wife, tired of her calling me while your at work.
YESSS!!!!! Here we go again... he said something about your wife... you gonna' put up with that ... (smirk... pop corn crunch ... coke sip).
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Hawks owns FCA Blue, really isn't even much of a game!
If a kid makes a "AA" team he shouldn't be permitted to play down on "A", however if a kid is an "A" player, he can play up on "AA".
It's a shame the only tournament 2020 FCA won last year was with the FCA White team with a handful of "AA" players. True class, can't compete with the big boys in "AA" so play against "A" teams. Did Ryan teach you that?
Your son should go back to playing video games...you never die and can restart any time you want.
You should be a better husband to your wife, tired of her calling me while your at work.
She is calling you because she works at the doctor's office where you are being treated for erectile dysfunction and incontinence. I now understand why you are so angry.
You should be a better husband to your wife, tired of her calling me while your at work.
"you're", not "your".
She told me in bed last night that she's tired of being married to an uneducated idiot.
Bwaaahaaaaahaaahaaaa... amazing... God I'm glad I found this site.
You should be a better husband to your wife, tired of her calling me while your at work.
"you're", not "your".
She told me in bed last night that she's tired of being married to an uneducated idiot.
Bwaaahaaaaahaaahaaaa... amazing... God I'm glad I found this site.
Have they figured out who has the bigger one yet?
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
You should be a better husband to your wife, tired of her calling me while your at work.
"you're", not "your".
She told me in bed last night that she's tired of being married to an uneducated idiot.
Bwaaahaaaaahaaahaaaa... amazing... God I'm glad I found this site.
Have they figured out who has the bigger one yet?
Bigger what, brain of tool? The former would be very hard to determine.
Larry, why don't you start a 2016 MD High school thread for. What a hoot that would be.
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
That is far from the truth. The FCA 2020 team is not even close to a 2019 team. They do have 3 hold backs similar to the amount looneys, Hawks, and 91. A lot of lacrosse parents act like that on every team. Why do you even have so much built up anger at FCA?
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
That is far from the truth. The FCA 2020 team is not even close to a 2019 team. They do have 3 hold backs similar to the amount looneys, Hawks, and 91. A lot of lacrosse parents act like that on every team. Why do you even have so much built up anger at FCA?
No anger at all. Just observations and knowing how FCA operates. Some parents on all teams get a little worked up, but not the amount as FCA parents do. Why can't they just watch the game, cheer on their team and keep their mouths shut, at least the language. At lacrosse games, most of the time their are younger children in the stands, it's bad enough for an adult to hear it but children should not be hearing this type of language. I do question the number of holdbacks you state.
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
That is far from the truth. The FCA 2020 team is not even close to a 2019 team. They do have 3 hold backs similar to the amount looneys, Hawks, and 91. A lot of lacrosse parents act like that on every team. Why do you even have so much built up anger at FCA?
FCA added 3 holdbacks to the group of holdbacks and pre-first they already have!
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
That is far from the truth. The FCA 2020 team is not even close to a 2019 team. They do have 3 hold backs similar to the amount looneys, Hawks, and 91. A lot of lacrosse parents act like that on every team. Why do you even have so much built up anger at FCA?
FCA added 3 holdbacks to the group of holdbacks and pre-first they already have!
The three you're thinking of were playing up and are true 2020s. They have 3 hold backs on the team that's a fact and why do I need your approval if i know that's the truth. If I had the birthdays of FCA 2020 I would be more than willing to show you so you would stop all this nonsense
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
That is far from the truth. The FCA 2020 team is not even close to a 2019 team. They do have 3 hold backs similar to the amount looneys, Hawks, and 91. A lot of lacrosse parents act like that on every team. Why do you even have so much built up anger at FCA?
No anger at all. Just observations and knowing how FCA operates. Some parents on all teams get a little worked up, but not the amount as FCA parents do. Why can't they just watch the game, cheer on their team and keep their mouths shut, at least the language. At lacrosse games, most of the time their are younger children in the stands, it's bad enough for an adult to hear it but children should not be hearing this type of language. I do question the number of holdbacks you state.
That's how they show their love for their sons and the game. I question your statement on the language
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
That is far from the truth. The FCA 2020 team is not even close to a 2019 team. They do have 3 hold backs similar to the amount looneys, Hawks, and 91. A lot of lacrosse parents act like that on every team. Why do you even have so much built up anger at FCA?
No anger at all. Just observations and knowing how FCA operates. Some parents on all teams get a little worked up, but not the amount as FCA parents do. Why can't they just watch the game, cheer on their team and keep their mouths shut, at least the language. At lacrosse games, most of the time their are younger children in the stands, it's bad enough for an adult to hear it but children should not be hearing this type of language. I do question the number of holdbacks you state.
That's how they show their love for their sons and the game. I question your statement on the language
I can only tell you what I heard on several occasions. That said, I never heard the f word, thankful for that, but a lot of bullsh*t, h*ll, sh*t call, [lacrosse] ref, stuff along those lines. Like I said, there are children in the stands that don't need to be subjected to that. I was at a 2022 game last fall and saw two FCA fathers arguing, using less than desirable language, and they were arguing with each other. I believe one father accused the other fathers son for not playing good defense and letting the other team score. At that point I just moved.
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
That is far from the truth. The FCA 2020 team is not even close to a 2019 team. They do have 3 hold backs similar to the amount looneys, Hawks, and 91. A lot of lacrosse parents act like that on every team. Why do you even have so much built up anger at FCA?
FCA added 3 holdbacks to the group of holdbacks and pre-first they already have!
The three you're thinking of were playing up and are true 2020s. They have 3 hold backs on the team that's a fact and why do I need your approval if i know that's the truth. If I had the birthdays of FCA 2020 I would be more than willing to show you so you would stop all this nonsense
They were pre-firsts and holdbacks who were still playing with the kids they always played with in the old, age based rules. They weren't "playing down" They will be 15 in the next month or so if they aren't already.
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
That is far from the truth. The FCA 2020 team is not even close to a 2019 team. They do have 3 hold backs similar to the amount looneys, Hawks, and 91. A lot of lacrosse parents act like that on every team. Why do you even have so much built up anger at FCA?
FCA added 3 holdbacks to the group of holdbacks and pre-first they already have!
The three you're thinking of were playing up and are true 2020s. They have 3 hold backs on the team that's a fact and why do I need your approval if i know that's the truth. If I had the birthdays of FCA 2020 I would be more than willing to show you so you would stop all this nonsense
prefirst is just as bad as holdbacks. just own it and move on.
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
That is far from the truth. The FCA 2020 team is not even close to a 2019 team. They do have 3 hold backs similar to the amount looneys, Hawks, and 91. A lot of lacrosse parents act like that on every team. Why do you even have so much built up anger at FCA?
FCA added 3 holdbacks to the group of holdbacks and pre-first they already have!
The three you're thinking of were playing up and are true 2020s. They have 3 hold backs on the team that's a fact and why do I need your approval if i know that's the truth. If I had the birthdays of FCA 2020 I would be more than willing to show you so you would stop all this nonsense
They were pre-firsts and holdbacks who were still playing with the kids they always played with in the old, age based rules. They weren't "playing down" They will be 15 in the next month or so if they aren't already.
if they are turning 15 prior to September 1 this year they should be 2019.
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
That is far from the truth. The FCA 2020 team is not even close to a 2019 team. They do have 3 hold backs similar to the amount looneys, Hawks, and 91. A lot of lacrosse parents act like that on every team. Why do you even have so much built up anger at FCA?
FCA added 3 holdbacks to the group of holdbacks and pre-first they already have!
The three you're thinking of were playing up and are true 2020s. They have 3 hold backs on the team that's a fact and why do I need your approval if i know that's the truth. If I had the birthdays of FCA 2020 I would be more than willing to show you so you would stop all this nonsense
They were pre-firsts and holdbacks who were still playing with the kids they always played with in the old, age based rules. They weren't "playing down" They will be 15 in the next month or so if they aren't already.
so although they are current 2020's... they are not true 2020 (prefirst holdbacks). I never get why not stay at your age and prove their salt? Oh, that's right you have a cop out. To each their own. My kid played started produced on HS varsity at 13. I was told i was stupid and crazy for allowing it. I am one of those. Still hate the hold back mentality.
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
That is far from the truth. The FCA 2020 team is not even close to a 2019 team. They do have 3 hold backs similar to the amount looneys, Hawks, and 91. A lot of lacrosse parents act like that on every team. Why do you even have so much built up anger at FCA?
Don't drag other teams into your battle - not all those teams mentioned have 3. Some summer birthdays maybe but not holding back for the sake of sports. Those teams are probably okay with posting their rosters for Hoco as it will show how good their teams really are - without an influx of older kids.
Fca blue owns Looneys orange. Can't wait to see this game.
Think so, that might happen when you bring your 2019 team. Oh wait, that's right your 2020 team is very close to a 2019 team already. Bring a true 2020 team and it will never happen. You FCA people hiding behind Christianity is a total disgrace to any religious belief. I have sat near these parents last season, it is like sitting around a bunch of drunk hilljacks, the language is enough to make you want to just tell them to STFU. Plus yelling at the refs the entire game gets a little old. This organization needs to change its name or start acting like it's name, but not how you presently act, truly disgraceful.
That is far from the truth. The FCA 2020 team is not even close to a 2019 team. They do have 3 hold backs similar to the amount looneys, Hawks, and 91. A lot of lacrosse parents act like that on every team. Why do you even have so much built up anger at FCA?
No anger at all. Just observations and knowing how FCA operates. Some parents on all teams get a little worked up, but not the amount as FCA parents do. Why can't they just watch the game, cheer on their team and keep their mouths shut, at least the language. At lacrosse games, most of the time their are younger children in the stands, it's bad enough for an adult to hear it but children should not be hearing this type of language. I do question the number of holdbacks you state.
That's how they show their love for their sons and the game. I question your statement on the language
I can only tell you what I heard on several occasions. That said, I never heard the f word, thankful for that, but a lot of bullsh*t, h*ll, sh*t call, [lacrosse] ref, stuff along those lines. Like I said, there are children in the stands that don't need to be subjected to that. I was at a 2022 game last fall and saw two FCA fathers arguing, using less than desirable language, and they were arguing with each other. I believe one father accused the other fathers son for not playing good defense and letting the other team score. At that point I just moved.
Looneys parents and coaches are the ones we have found really disgraceful. FCA Blue or White we have not had any issues with.
not correct. the 3 players who played on the 2019 team will not be 15 any time soon.
FCA 2017 Blue have the worst parents ever. They complain about everything and shriek all game long. Embarrassing people.
not correct. the 3 players who played on the 2019 team will not be 15 any time soon.
Lefty and the goalie will be. In rec with them. Not sure about the calvert hall kid.
not correct. the 3 players who played on the 2019 team will not be 15 any time soon.
Lefty and the goalie will be. In rec with them. Not sure about the calvert hall kid.
Well this is the best way to "catch" or find out who is a holdback. Try to find where and when they played Rec. Rec is by age so it should not be hard to come up with a kids age.
2022 discussion best left until after summer tournaments....
Very good point with this age bracket it is best to wait tell after summer. The summer team is the full real team 99% of the time.
HoCo spring season will definitely identify the best in DMV. HoCo has great fields and great refs. You can't say that about the vast majority of summer tournaments. Summer Tourneys also have tons of guest players.
[b]You never know who will be in the line up one tournament to the next for a club - especially those clubs that have operations in other cities and can easily bring them in with the uniform already in place. [/b]
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
That's okay because you will get to play the Blue team this year since you whined so much to get into the bracket.
Is FCA BLUE going to play against all "A" level teams again this year in Koopers league, or will they finally challenge themselves? Shame you only compete in 1 league against top talent. It was a true show of character last year FCA BLUE playing the Koopers league against "A" teams and bringing down the 2019 goalie as well. True class there!
There was only one bracket for the 8 teams in the 2020 Koopers league last year so AA and A teams were mixed so your point is lost except that you are still bitter. Other AA teams participated in that same bracket including your own club. Take it up with Koopers who could not draw the teams in to separate A from AA.
There are going to be some real ugly games in the Koopers league this year. Looks like AA level to C level are all together. Any chance they'll break into divisions?
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
That's okay because you will get to play the Blue team this year since you whined so much to get into the bracket.
Is FCA BLUE going to play against all "A" level teams again this year in Koopers league, or will they finally challenge themselves? Shame you only compete in 1 league against top talent. It was a true show of character last year FCA BLUE playing the Koopers league against "A" teams and bringing down the 2019 goalie as well. True class there!
There was only one bracket for the 8 teams in the 2020 Koopers league last year so AA and A teams were mixed so your point is lost except that you are still bitter. Other AA teams participated in that same bracket including your own club. Take it up with Koopers who could not draw the teams in to separate A from AA.
There are going to be some real ugly games in the Koopers league this year. Looks like AA level to C level are all together. Any chance they'll break into divisions?
For 2020 the following:
Koopers, 91 Platinum, Rough riders, Looney green, FCA White, Laxworld, Ground control, Rock, HOCO, Mdx, Zingo, Wolfpack, Charm city,
Just ask FCA this, it is a common occurrence with them. Bringing AA kids down to the "A" team for tournaments.
That's okay because you will get to play the Blue team this year since you whined so much to get into the bracket.
Is FCA BLUE going to play against all "A" level teams again this year in Koopers league, or will they finally challenge themselves? Shame you only compete in 1 league against top talent. It was a true show of character last year FCA BLUE playing the Koopers league against "A" teams and bringing down the 2019 goalie as well. True class there!
There was only one bracket for the 8 teams in the 2020 Koopers league last year so AA and A teams were mixed so your point is lost except that you are still bitter. Other AA teams participated in that same bracket including your own club. Take it up with Koopers who could not draw the teams in to separate A from AA.
There are going to be some real ugly games in the Koopers league this year. Looks like AA level to C level are all together. Any chance they'll break into divisions?
For 2020 the following:
Koopers, 91 Platinum, Rough riders, Looney green, FCA White, Laxworld, Ground control, Rock, HOCO, Mdx, Zingo, Wolfpack, Charm city,
There is no true AA in that line up so that may help.
not correct. the 3 players who played on the 2019 team will not be 15 any time soon.
Lefty and the goalie will be. In rec with them. Not sure about the calvert hall kid.
Well this is the best way to "catch" or find out who is a holdback. Try to find where and when they played Rec. Rec is by age so it should not be hard to come up with a kids age.
Thats f'ing funny. Yeah, lets talk about rec when the kids played with their age....Oh that's right, in rec the kids were grouped in tyker, lightning, [lacrosse] which grouped two ages together. How did the boys in their first year at that level ever competed against the kids in their second year? Kids must have been tougher 5 years ago. Yeesh
not correct. the 3 players who played on the 2019 team will not be 15 any time soon.
Lefty and the goalie will be. In rec with them. Not sure about the calvert hall kid.
Well this is the best way to "catch" or find out who is a holdback. Try to find where and when they played Rec. Rec is by age so it should not be hard to come up with a kids age.
Envy or jealousy: resentment of others for their possessions (Dante: "love of one's own good perverted to a desire to deprive other men of theirs"). In the Latin lists of the Seven Deadly Sins, envy is referred to as invidia.
Bottom Line - I've seen this goalie play for a couple of years now... not on his team by the way. And it sounds like you've watched him too. He is just plain good and it hurts your feelings. He would be a good goalie at 2018/19/20 ... don't be butthurt, just make your kid better.
[quote=Anonymous]not correct. the 3 players who played on the 2019 team will not be 15 any time soon.
Lefty and the goalie will be. In rec with them. Not sure about the calvert hall kid.
Well this is the best way to "catch" or find out who is a holdback. Try to find where and when they played Rec. Rec is by age so it should not be hard to come up with a kids age.
Well let's move your son up to Alg. 2 even though he has not taken Alg.1. I am sure he is smart he can just get smarter to keep up with the other kids. Then we will move the kid who just finished Alg.2 class in with the Alg.1 class. Would anyone think this is a good idea?
[quote=Anonymous]not correct. the 3 players who played on the 2019 team will not be 15 any time soon.
Lefty and the goalie will be. In rec with them. Not sure about the calvert hall kid.
Well this is the best way to "catch" or find out who is a holdback. Try to find where and when they played Rec. Rec is by age so it should not be hard to come up with a kids age.
Well let's move your son up to Alg. 2 even though he has not taken Alg.1. I am sure he is smart he can just get smarter to keep up with the other kids. Then we will move the kid who just finished Alg.2 class in with the Alg.1 class. Would anyone think this is a good idea?
i'm sure you will find a parent of a private school child who will run with this idea next year! probably a BL or CH parent.
not correct. the 3 players who played on the 2019 team will not be 15 any time soon.
Lefty and the goalie will be. In rec with them. Not sure about the calvert hall kid.
Well this is the best way to "catch" or find out who is a holdback. Try to find where and when they played Rec. Rec is by age so it should not be hard to come up with a kids age.
Envy or jealousy: resentment of others for their possessions (Dante: "love of one's own good perverted to a desire to deprive other men of theirs"). In the Latin lists of the Seven Deadly Sins, envy is referred to as invidia.
Bottom Line - I've seen this goalie play for a couple of years now... not on his team by the way. And it sounds like you've watched him too. He is just plain good and it hurts your feelings. He would be a good goalie at 2018/19/20 ... don't be butthurt, just make your kid better.
Why do people always bring up "feelings" in this discussion? I've seen the goalie play as well. I also saw the previous 2020 goalie who left the team so this one could take his place. He was also good (for example, Top Prospect camp MVP).
This isn't about "feelings". It's about Integrity. Character. I don't feel "butthurt" as you say. Why would I? I doesn't impress me that a kid who is a year or two older can dominate younger kids. When I teach my kids values, I practice what I preach.
Alg 2 is a post grad course at BL. Paint by numbers is an AP course at CH.
Alg 2 is a post grad course at BL. Paint by numbers is an AP course at CH.
Good one Loyola Dad.
Alg 2 is a post grad course at BL. Paint by numbers is an AP course at CH.
Alg 2 is AP math freshman year at Public schools.
Lefty and the goalie will be. In rec with them. Not sure about the calvert hall kid.
Well this is the best way to "catch" or find out who is a holdback. Try to find where and when they played Rec. Rec is by age so it should not be hard to come up with a kids age.
Envy or jealousy: resentment of others for their possessions (Dante: "love of one's own good perverted to a desire to deprive other men of theirs"). In the Latin lists of the Seven Deadly Sins, envy is referred to as invidia.
Bottom Line - I've seen this goalie play for a couple of years now... not on his team by the way. And it sounds like you've watched him too. He is just plain good and it hurts your feelings. He would be a good goalie at 2018/19/20 ... don't be butthurt, just make your kid better.
Why do people always bring up "feelings" in this discussion? I've seen the goalie play as well. I also saw the previous 2020 goalie who left the team so this one could take his place. He was also good (for example, Top Prospect camp MVP).
This isn't about "feelings". It's about Integrity. Character. I don't feel "butthurt" as you say. Why would I? I doesn't impress me that a kid who is a year or two older can dominate younger kids. When I teach my kids values, I practice what I preach.
I guess your talking about the goalie who is now with Rough Riders? He left last year and the Fallston goalie took the starting position. The Fallston kid was told he would be the only goalie only to have the 2019 kid start playing with 2020 in the Koopers league.
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Is FCA BLUE going to play against all "A" level teams again this year in Koopers league, or will they finally challenge themselves? Shame you only compete in 1 league against top talent. It was a true show of character last year FCA BLUE playing the Koopers league against "A" teams and bringing down the 2019 goalie as well. True class there!
There was only one bracket for the 8 teams in the 2020 Koopers league last year so AA and A teams were mixed so your point is lost except that you are still bitter. Other AA teams participated in that same bracket including your own club. Take it up with Koopers who could not draw the teams in to separate A from AA.
There are going to be some real ugly games in the Koopers league this year. Looks like AA level to C level are all together. Any chance they'll break into divisions?
For 2020 the following:
Koopers, 91 Platinum, Rough riders, Looney green, FCA White, Laxworld, Ground control, Rock, HOCO, Mdx, Zingo, Wolfpack, Charm city,
Division 1
91, Rough Rider, Looney Green, FCA White, Laxworld, MDX
Division 2
Koopers,Ground Control, Rock, HOCO, Zingo, Wolfpack, Charm City
Lot of crappy teams for what again is a crappy league.
Lot of crappy teams for what again is a crappy league.
well, they certainly don't have FCA Blue this year bringing their 2019 players down and beating everybody by 10.
The 2020 goalie you are talking about has a late Aug Birthday. Played his age (the youngest in the age group). When everyone moved to grade based, he was good enough to play "up". now that the 2019 team is in high school, he is playing with his grade in the spring. funny how when it was aged based he was the youngest, and could keep up with kids 2 years older than him. Now that he is playing "down" in some people's view he isn't the oldest (given all the grade hold backs), people have issue with him being good. I know this player and it isn't because he is older.... Bottom line is that the kid can play.
Lot of crappy teams for what again is a crappy league.
Thanks for your input. Plenty of quality players on these teams and some will emerge as better players than your precious AA kids. And other kids are playing just because it's fun, which is the point of youth sports. You are a tool.
No better than hoco when u take the elite out. Thanks crab parent
Koopers League ...
More like Crappers League
[quote=Anonymous]The 2020 goalie you are talking about has a late Aug Birthday. Played his age (the youngest in the age group). When everyone moved to grade based, he was good enough to play "up". now that the 2019 team is in high school, he is playing with his grade in the spring. funny how when it was aged based he was the youngest, and could keep up with kids 2 years older than him. Now that he is playing "down" in some people's view he isn't the oldest (given all the grade hold backs), people have issue with him being good. I know this player and it isn't because he is older.... Bottom line is that the kid can play.
Ok Dad
The 2020 goalie you are talking about has a late Aug Birthday. Played his age (the youngest in the age group). When everyone moved to grade based, he was good enough to play "up". now that the 2019 team is in high school, he is playing with his grade in the spring. funny how when it was aged based he was the youngest, and could keep up with kids 2 years older than him. Now that he is playing "down" in some people's view he isn't the oldest (given all the grade hold backs), people have issue with him being good. I know this player and it isn't because he is older.... Bottom line is that the kid can play.
the kid can play! nobody is arguing this. he should be playing with 2019 kids where he belongs.
HoCo was crap too until the NPYLL teams legitimized it. You would be nothing without us.
HoCo was crap too until the NPYLL teams legitimized it. You would be nothing without us.
then why did nypll fold?
HoCo was crap too until the NPYLL teams legitimized it. You would be nothing without us.
NPYYL = A skill, B intelligence.
The 2020 goalie you are talking about has a late Aug Birthday. Played his age (the youngest in the age group). When everyone moved to grade based, he was good enough to play "up". now that the 2019 team is in high school, he is playing with his grade in the spring. funny how when it was aged based he was the youngest, and could keep up with kids 2 years older than him. Now that he is playing "down" in some people's view he isn't the oldest (given all the grade hold backs), people have issue with him being good. I know this player and it isn't because he is older.... Bottom line is that the kid can play.
the kid can play! nobody is arguing this. he should be playing with 2019 kids where he belongs.
I don't know the kid but if the poster is accurate and he has aug 2001 birthday, his parents decided to wait a year for K, he's played 2019 until now - what's your beef? Since he's in 8th he can't play 2019 as they are in HS. Would you still complain if lax still went by age and it was u15?
HoCo was crap too until the NPYLL teams legitimized it. You would be nothing without us.
Yea right, filled with many weak clubs and some real cheaters, especially Crabs. If this league was so great why did it fold?
Come on, give everyone an answer, we're waiting.
HoCo was crap too until the NPYLL teams legitimized it. You would be nothing without us.
Yea right, filled with many weak clubs and some real cheaters, especially Crabs. If this league was so great why did it fold?
Come on, give everyone an answer, we're waiting.
If a tournament or league is grade based, having reclassed kids is not cheating, no matter how much you stomp up and down.
As for "cheating", FCA has more holdbacks.
HoCo was crap too until the NPYLL teams legitimized it. You would be nothing without us.
Yea right, filled with many weak clubs and some real cheaters, especially Crabs. If this league was so great why did it fold?
Come on, give everyone an answer, we're waiting.
NPYLL lost it's parity at the top. The bottom 4 or 5 clubs were getting tired of getting smoked by the top 4 or 5 clubs so they dropped down to hoco. The top 4 or 5 clubs did not want to play in a league with only 4 or 5 teams so Npyll fell apart. Also, many npyll clubs had problems arranging their own home fields which hoco does now for them
Very true. The only two in hoco last year were Looneys orange(cheaters) fca blue. Who owned Looneys last year with a 1/4 of the practice time.
HoCo was crap too until the NPYLL teams legitimized it. You would be nothing without us.
Yea right, filled with many weak clubs and some real cheaters, especially Crabs. If this league was so great why did it fold?
Come on, give everyone an answer, we're waiting.
If a tournament or league is grade based, having reclassed kids is not cheating, no matter how much you stomp up and down.
As for "cheating", FCA has more holdbacks.
You need to visit the "Boys 2020-8th grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 thread" on this forum. Tells much about how Crabs and Ryan M operate. This isn't news to quite a few people but it reinforces how much Crabs abuses the holdbacks in grade base youth lacrosse and does not operate within the sprit of grade base lacrosse. FCA has more than normal the number of holdbacks compared to most clubs but not even close to the number on Crabs 2020 team. This isn't fiction it is fact.
HoCo has a better model with the access to centralized fields. Much cheaper, efficient than multiple teams every week arranging for field space.
NPYLL teams will dominate HoCo. HoCo had 1-2 decent teams every year and will get smoked this spring.
It really doesn't matter what happened....we are all better off in the new hoco with 4 divisions. Teams should be well matched in all divisions.
The 2020 goalie you are talking about has a late Aug Birthday. Played his age (the youngest in the age group). When everyone moved to grade based, he was good enough to play "up". now that the 2019 team is in high school, he is playing with his grade in the spring. funny how when it was aged based he was the youngest, and could keep up with kids 2 years older than him. Now that he is playing "down" in some people's view he isn't the oldest (given all the grade hold backs), people have issue with him being good. I know this player and it isn't because he is older.... Bottom line is that the kid can play.
the kid can play! nobody is arguing this. he should be playing with 2019 kids where he belongs.
I don't know the kid but if the poster is accurate and he has aug 2001 birthday, his parents decided to wait a year for K, he's played 2019 until now - what's your beef? Since he's in 8th he can't play 2019 as they are in HS. Would you still complain if lax still went by age and it was u15?
all major clubs have 2019 teams, he can play!
The 2020 goalie you are talking about has a late Aug Birthday. Played his age (the youngest in the age group). When everyone moved to grade based, he was good enough to play "up". now that the 2019 team is in high school, he is playing with his grade in the spring. funny how when it was aged based he was the youngest, and could keep up with kids 2 years older than him. Now that he is playing "down" in some people's view he isn't the oldest (given all the grade hold backs), people have issue with him being good. I know this player and it isn't because he is older.... Bottom line is that the kid can play.
the kid can play! nobody is arguing this. he should be playing with 2019 kids where he belongs.
I don't know the kid but if the poster is accurate and he has aug 2001 birthday, his parents decided to wait a year for K, he's played 2019 until now - what's your beef? Since he's in 8th he can't play 2019 as they are in HS. Would you still complain if lax still went by age and it was u15?
all major clubs have 2019 teams, he can play!
They have 2019 for summer not spring.
Very true. The only two in hoco last year were Looneys orange(cheaters) fca blue. Who owned Looneys last year with a 1/4 of the practice time.
. By the way you write not sure who you are calling cheaters but without a doubt it is FCA, not Looney's. Maybe FCA 2020 blue had less practice time because they were busy sending players down to their 2020A team, 2020 white. Don't even get us started on FCA, they are right behind Crabs for being a deceitful organization. Deny it all you want, no one will believe you, it like spitting in the wind. Sorry FCA dad, it didn't work.
The 2020 goalie you are talking about has a late Aug Birthday. Played his age (the youngest in the age group). When everyone moved to grade based, he was good enough to play "up". now that the 2019 team is in high school, he is playing with his grade in the spring. funny how when it was aged based he was the youngest, and could keep up with kids 2 years older than him. Now that he is playing "down" in some people's view he isn't the oldest (given all the grade hold backs), people have issue with him being good. I know this player and it isn't because he is older.... Bottom line is that the kid can play.
the kid can play! nobody is arguing this. he should be playing with 2019 kids where he belongs.
I don't know the kid but if the poster is accurate and he has aug 2001 birthday, his parents decided to wait a year for K, he's played 2019 until now - what's your beef? Since he's in 8th he can't play 2019 as they are in HS. Would you still complain if lax still went by age and it was u15?
all major clubs have 2019 teams, he can play!
They have 2019 for summer not spring.
wow, this sport sucks more and more, now leagues for high schools age kids other than school?
The 2020 goalie you are talking about has a late Aug Birthday. Played his age (the youngest in the age group). When everyone moved to grade based, he was good enough to play "up". now that the 2019 team is in high school, he is playing with his grade in the spring. funny how when it was aged based he was the youngest, and could keep up with kids 2 years older than him. Now that he is playing "down" in some people's view he isn't the oldest (given all the grade hold backs), people have issue with him being good. I know this player and it isn't because he is older.... Bottom line is that the kid can play.
the kid can play! nobody is arguing this. he should be playing with 2019 kids where he belongs.
I don't know the kid but if the poster is accurate and he has aug 2001 birthday, his parents decided to wait a year for K, he's played 2019 until now - what's your beef? Since he's in 8th he can't play 2019 as they are in HS. Would you still complain if lax still went by age and it was u15?
all major clubs have 2019 teams, he can play!
They have 2019 for summer not spring.
wow, this sport sucks more and more, now leagues for high schools age kids other than school?
no leagues for hs, summer tournaments
Most number of holdbacks:
1. Madlax
2. Crabs
3. FCA
People can u all just relax and watch a little lax. Oh, I forgot most of you crazy dads never even played a sport. Probably last to get picked for dodge ball. Let it out.
People can u all just relax and watch a little lax. Oh, I forgot most of you crazy dads never even played a sport. Probably last to get picked for dodge ball. Let it out.
Nobody cares about your life story.
People can u all just relax and watch a little lax. Oh, I forgot most of you crazy dads never even played a sport. Probably last to get picked for dodge ball. Let it out.
You sound like a typical meathead jock still living your glory days and telling us all how you were Division blah blah and boring everyone with your stories. Not everything is genetics...
People can u all just relax and watch a little lax. Oh, I forgot most of you crazy dads never even played a sport. Probably last to get picked for dodge ball. Let it out.
You sound like a typical meathead jock still living your glory days and telling us all how you were Division blah blah and boring everyone with your stories. Not everything is genetics...
you sound like someone who always resented the jocks like the previous poster. seems odd that you desperately want your son to be like him.
People can u all just relax and watch a little lax. Oh, I forgot most of you crazy dads never even played a sport. Probably last to get picked for dodge ball. Let it out.
You sound like a typical meathead jock still living your glory days and telling us all how you were Division blah blah and boring everyone with your stories. Not everything is genetics...
you sound like someone who always resented the jocks like the previous poster. seems odd that you desperately want your son to be like him.
You could not be more wrong. My son is a starter on one of the top 6 teams, is a 3 season talented athlete, but also focuses on being an A student, a talented musician, a good friend and spends quite a bit of time doing service projects because he wants to. He will be just fine whether or not he decides to play in college and it will not be his defining moment or source of his identity
People can u all just relax and watch a little lax. Oh, I forgot most of you crazy dads never even played a sport. Probably last to get picked for dodge ball. Let it out.
You sound like a typical meathead jock still living your glory days and telling us all how you were Division blah blah and boring everyone with your stories. Not everything is genetics...
you sound like someone who always resented the jocks like the previous poster. seems odd that you desperately want your son to be like him.
Says the guy who always wanted the bottom locker when the teams were getting changed
Wow. This is just like watching the Republican debate. Please use this forum to inform, assist, and support each other. Why the insults? Why the anger? What a horrible example. You have one life to live. This is how you are going to spend it?
Wow. This is just like watching the Republican debate. Please use this forum to inform, assist, and support each other. Why the insults? Why the anger? What a horrible example. You have one life to live. This is how you are going to spend it?
Worry about your own life, not ours!
The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
And they can all drive themselves to school...so they got that going for them.
The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
Of course they are...most did 8th grade twice.
[quote=Anonymous]The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
Of course they are...most did 8th grade twice.
And Brother Kane gave up his parking space for the freshman....now that's a committment to a winning program!
The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
Of course they are...most did 8th grade twice.
And they have also done your wife at least twice too.
The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
Of course they are...most did 8th grade twice.
And they have also done your wife at least twice too.
FCA parent going crazy again!
The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
Of course they are...most did 8th grade twice.
And they have also done your wife at least twice too.
FCA parent going crazy again!
It's not just fca kids going to Calvert hall it's also crabs, looneys, and 91
The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
Of course they are...most did 8th grade twice.
And they have also done your wife at least twice too.
FCA parent going crazy again!
It's not just fca kids going to Calvert hall it's also crabs, looneys, and 91
Yes but if you don't play for FCA you'll get screwed by the Kellys...Seen it in person.
The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
Of course they are...most did 8th grade twice.
And they have also done your wife at least twice too.
FCA parent going crazy again!
It's not just fca kids going to Calvert hall it's also crabs, looneys, and 91
Yes but if you don't play for FCA you'll get screwed by the Kellys...Seen it in person.
Gilman loading up too
Gilman loading up too [/quote]
Gilman loading up on what? Kids who re-classed at Calvert School?
When was the last time they were relevant?
[quote=Anonymous]The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
Of course they are...most did 8th grade twice.
And they have also done your wife at least twice too.
FCA parent going crazy again!
It's not just fca kids going to Calvert hall it's also crabs, looneys, and 91
Heard they stole the stud middie from BL?
The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
Of course they are...most did 8th grade twice.
And they have also done your wife at least twice too.
FCA parent going crazy again!
Does FCA allow polygamy? So you can get done twice and it's ok?
[quote=Anonymous]The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
Of course they are...most did 8th grade twice.
And they have also done your wife at least twice too.
FCA parent going crazy again!
It's not just fca kids going to Calvert hall it's also crabs, looneys, and 91
Heard they stole the stud middie from BL?
I wouldn't call him a stud considering he is 2 years older than the other 2020 kids
When kids transfer from one MIAA school to another in 8th grade or for 9th grade it is always for the purpose of repeating another grade. Kids are doing that in the NE boarding schools too. There's a sad scurge of parents who shuttle their kids around prep schools for this reason. Can't repeat a grade at the same prep unless you can show academic cause for needing to. Read: flunk a grade. So you shuttle around to a different prep to position the young recruiting game. Calvert Hall and Boys' Latin both do this with a lot of gusto. Happens at the Exeters and Choates too.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
Of course they are...most did 8th grade twice.
And they have also done your wife at least twice too.
FCA parent going crazy again!
It's not just fca kids going to Calvert hall it's also crabs, looneys, and 91
Heard they stole the stud middie from BL?
I wouldn't call him a stud considering he is 2 years older than the other 2020 kids
No your wrong, he's actually 17 and was placed there by an Alien mother ship. See if that one sticks like the rest of the crap on here........
Gilman loading up on what? Kids who re-classed at Calvert School?
When was the last time they were relevant? [/quote]
Relevance will return. The 8th grade team had no losses and one tie (to McDonogh) last year and the current 8th grade team is very strong.
Before you spout off on a message borad, you should actually know what you are talking about. Kids in private school are held back without transferring schools all the time.
Sometimes for academic reasons and sometimes for athletic reasons. The schools can do whatever they and the parents want.
Gilman loading up on what? Kids who re-classed at Calvert School?
When was the last time they were relevant?
Relevance will return. The 8th grade team had no losses and one tie (to McDonogh) last year and the current 8th grade team is very strong. [/quote]
I don't think 8th grade teams have much relevance to how varsity will be playing in a couple years. The Private recruiters will bring in the best kids for 9th grade that they can find from all the public schools. That's why the talent at the public schools is a total wasteland within 30 miles of any top MIAA school and only the remote public schools win the championships (Hereford, Howard, Westminster.....)
When kids transfer from one MIAA school to another in 8th grade or for 9th grade it is always for the purpose of repeating another grade. Kids are doing that in the NE boarding schools too. There's a sad scurge of parents who shuttle their kids around prep schools for this reason. Can't repeat a grade at the same prep unless you can show academic cause for needing to. Read: flunk a grade. So you shuttle around to a different prep to position the young recruiting game. Calvert Hall and Boys' Latin both do this with a lot of gusto. Happens at the Exeters and Choates too.
You're a moron and have no idea what you're talking about.
When kids transfer from one MIAA school to another in 8th grade or for 9th grade it is always for the purpose of repeating another grade. Kids are doing that in the NE boarding schools too. There's a sad scurge of parents who shuttle their kids around prep schools for this reason. Can't repeat a grade at the same prep unless you can show academic cause for needing to. Read: flunk a grade. So you shuttle around to a different prep to position the young recruiting game. Calvert Hall and Boys' Latin both do this with a lot of gusto. Happens at the Exeters and Choates too.
You're a moron and have no idea what you're talking about.
Must have hit a nerve.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The incoming freshman class for Calvert Hall is going to be very good
Of course they are...most did 8th grade twice.
And they have also done your wife at least twice too.
FCA parent going crazy again!
It's not just fca kids going to Calvert hall it's also crabs, looneys, and 91
Heard they stole the stud middie from BL?
I wouldn't call him a stud considering he is 2 years older than the other 2020 kids
No your wrong, he's actually 17 and was placed there by an Alien mother ship. See if that one sticks like the rest of the crap on here........
Look, I am a BL parent and my son plays for Crabs, but this one is the truth. He is two years older and turns 16 this Spring.
Turning 16 in spring of 8th grade? That is sad. Feel bad for the kid socially.
Look, I am a BL parent and my son plays for Crabs, but this one is the truth. He is two years older and turns 16 this Spring.[/quote]
That's crazy if true. He can't play sports at BL or anywhere in MIAA as a senior. It's a rule you can't turn 19 before the school year and play
Look, I am a BL parent and my son plays for Crabs, but this one is the truth. He is two years older and turns 16 this Spring.
That's crazy if true. He can't play sports at BL or anywhere in MIAA as a senior. It's a rule you can't turn 19 before the school year and play [/quote]
And that is exactly why you go to Deerfield for the last year. Don't you get it? When you're 20 you just chase off to a boarding school.
That's just nuts...who does that?
That's just nuts...who does that?
He's going to be driving to middle school soon
how would MadlaX, MDX, Next Level, and Cannons for 2020? AA, A, or B?
how would MadlaX, MDX, Next Level, and Cannons for 2020? AA, A, or B?
Madlax - Elite
MDX - AA
Next Level - Elite
Cannons - AA
how would MadlaX, MDX, Next Level, and Cannons for 2020? AA, A, or B?
Madlax - Elite
MDX - AA
Next Level - Elite
Cannons - AA
We'll see how they do against each other next weekend. Too bad Madlax isn't playing the team from New [lacrosse] that is coming down.
How did Cannons 2020 and 2022 teams do at the Next Level tournament today?
Madlax
Club Blue
Next Level Black
Madlax
Club Blue
Next Level Black
Assuming they beat Next Level and lost to the others?
What happened to this Cannons team? They beat all those teams easily last year.
Madlax
Club Blue
Next Level Black
Assuming they beat Next Level and lost to the others?
Did Club Blue get some new kids or just practice a lot more?
What happened to this Cannons team? They beat all those teams easily last year.
Lots of kids left. What was the score of Madlax 2020/next level game
2021 Koopers, HHH, Hawks, Bethesda, & Rock scrimmaged today also at Sidwell. How did they go?
2021 Koopers, HHH, Hawks, Bethesda, & Rock scrimmaged today also at Sidwell. How did they go?
Bethesda and Hawks went 3-0
Rock and 3D Mid Atlantic didnt look good at all
Koopers and HHH was probably the closet game on Sunday
Madlax 2020 decided to leave and not play Next Level 2020 in the last game.
How was the 2022 play date this last weekend ?
Madlax 2020 decided to leave and not play Next Level 2020 in the last game.
LOL. Because they knew they would get housed.
Madlax 2020 decided to leave and not play Next Level 2020 in the last game.
LOL. Because they knew they would get housed.
It was nasty out. The Long Island boys had a long ride home.
Madlax 2020 decided to leave and not play Next Level 2020 in the last game.
LOL. Because they knew they would get housed.
Did you really just say "housed" ???!!
Madlax 2020 decided to leave and not play Next Level 2020 in the last game.
So who did Madlax 2020 play and did they win those 2 other games. I am sure we will never get a full answer on why they left early.
2022 Last Weekend
Madlax 3-0
Next Level 2-1
CB 2-1
3d 1-2
Cannons 1-2
fl$ 0-3
Not sure why Cannons had such a tough time, last year they were the class of the league.
Bethesda 2022 will be very strong--great coach in Marc Dubick and really strong players.
Bethesda, Madlax and Crabs will all be very close
Madlax 2020 decided to leave and not play Next Level 2020 in the last game.
So who did Madlax 2020 play and did they win those 2 other games. I am sure we will never get a full answer on why they left early.
I see on the Madlax website that Next level will be playing in a 4 team play day at Landon on April 3rd. So you all will get your wish to see them play.
2022 Last Weekend
Madlax 3-0
Next Level 2-1
CB 2-1
3d 1-2
Cannons 1-2
fl$ 0-3
Not sure why Cannons had such a tough time, last year they were the class of the
league.
Cannons lost a few players
Bethesda 2022 will be very strong--great coach in Marc Dubick and really strong players.
Find out this weekend
2022 Last Weekend
Madlax 3-0
Next Level 2-1
CB 2-1
3d 1-2
Cannons 1-2
fl$ 0-3
Not sure why Cannons had such a tough time, last year they were the class of the league.
Did Cannons beat NL and lose to Club Blue? Because then NL would have beaten Club Blue.
Bethesda, Madlax and Crabs will all be very close
Hawks beat Bethesda by quite bit on Sunday's playday.
Bethesda 2022 will be very strong--great coach in Marc Dubick and really strong players.
Find out this weekend
Hawks 2022 over Bethesda 2022 this past weekend. 12-3.
Madlax 2020 decided to leave and not play Next Level 2020 in the last game.
So who did Madlax 2020 play and did they win those 2 other games. I am sure we will never get a full answer on why they left early.
I see on the Madlax website that Next level will be playing in a 4 team play day at Landon on April 3rd. So you all will get your wish to see them play.
I saw the 2nd half of Madlax vs Club Blue. Rough Riders warmed up, took the field to play Madlax, but they didn't know they were supposed to play right then. Then some of the Madlax coaches and players came back but many had left as there was a schedule change they weren't told about so missed the game which immediately followed their first. That game could not be rescheduled. Not sure about the Next Level game 2 hours later.
How did the Madlax 2020 team look against Club Blue?
How did the Madlax 2020 team look against Club Blue?
Pretty good. Final score was 5-2 or 6-3 or close to it for Madlax. Both teams seemed to be subbing lots of players.
Club Blue 2020 is terrible. NL killed them. The fact that it was a 3 goal game shows you where Madlax is. Probably why they ducked NL and why they are nomads without a league.
Club Blue 2020 is terrible. NL killed them. The fact that it was a 3 goal game shows you where Madlax is. Probably why they ducked NL and why they are nomads without a league.
Man I know you love this Madlax 2020 situation. Try to keep your pants on when you think about it.
Madlax 2020 decided to leave and not play Next Level 2020 in the last game.
So who did Madlax 2020 play and did they win those 2 other games. I am sure we will never get a full answer on why they left early.
I see on the Madlax website that Next level will be playing in a 4 team play day at Landon on April 3rd. So you all will get your wish to see them play.
I saw the 2nd half of Madlax vs Club Blue. Rough Riders warmed up, took the field to play Madlax, but they didn't know they were supposed to play right then. Then some of the Madlax coaches and players came back but many had left as there was a schedule change they weren't told about so missed the game which immediately followed their first. That game could not be rescheduled. Not sure about the Next Level game 2 hours later.
The schedule was changed last minute and teams weren't made aware. Our team from New [lacrosse] showed up to warm up and told our first game was pushed back and because of the change had 3 straight games with no break.