True there are factors to consider. I feel that this really brings out the best of the best. Fall tournaments are tough to include because the teams might be different because of fall sports. I am speaking specifically of the hoco league. The holdbacks would really be able to be assessed for their skills by playing up. I have heard of one player that is playing up 2 years and is holding his own quit well. Playing up has made him so much better. Rather than being held back.