Originally Posted by Anonymous
--------- "The number 1 recruit does not get into Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Penn, Stanford without at least a 1300 SAT and A average in honors classes. If someone “told you” different, they are not being truthful. You do not get into the best academic schools with mediocre academics no matter how good you are at lacrosse. You do realize that students with perfect SATs, 5s on all APs and 4.0 GPA are turned away from these schools in droves. A kid should consider it a gift to be admitted with a weak 1300 and A- average." -----------

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The above is just the opinion of someone who paints with a broad brush, it is not fact. They seem to focus on the same 1300 SAT score as if it is a "fact" that no recruits get into elite schools with SAT scores below 1300 (they do) They also keep repeating that you do not get into the top schools with "mediocre academics" which of course there has not been a single post suggesting that you can get into a top school with mediocre grades. My guess is that the poster has either not gone through the recruiting process but if they have they have not gone through it with a legitimate Top Tier recruit. Remember, as an earlier post points out: Every school has a top recruit (number 1 recruit) and a bottom recruit (number 8,9,10 or whatever). Recruits are not all considered equal by the coach and the number 1 will not need the same academics as the number 9. The Ivy's use their "academic index" the index is based off of each schools overall student body and the "index score" required varies from school to school. (if you are not familiar with the Ivy academic index and how it is derived and how it is applied to athletic recruits I suggest that you google it. Duke works off of "Athletic Slots" the coach gets a certain number of "slots" (most likely around 8) the slots are used for athletes who fall below the normal academic requirements for admission. Below 1200 would be cause for concern but not a deal breaker. Northwestern (at least a few years ago) could pretty much bring in whoever they wanted with no set number of slots (obviously the coach does not bring in students who have not demonstrated that they will be able to handle the workload as that would not benefit the player of the team). All of the Top Tier academic schools have their own way of dealing with admissions for student athletes, they also have different academic requirements for their recruits. One athlete might be able to get into Princeton with a 28 ACT score while an athlete in the same recruiting class may be required to have a 33 or 34 ACT score. Remember, there is always a Top and Bottom Recruit in each recruiting class.

My older daughter was a top recruit. She was contacted by several top programs Sept 1 and made 6 (5 official) visits before committing. She was told she was first on the depth chart was offered a spot at each visit while there. Three coaches made home visits. She worked very hard and we are proud and blessed. Princeton and Yale said they were looking for 1400 SAT and an A average with honors classes, but they would work with my daughter. Northwestern did not seemed at all concerned with her grades. Stanford said if you get a B, it could be a big problem and some recruits have not gotten in with a B, they do not currently require SATs, so that is new there. UNC and UVA were not super concerned about grades. Every school is different, but this was our experience as a top tier recruit. The very top academic schools are very concerned that all their recruits meet a certain criteria. I also have a son who played at an Ivy who was a top tier recruit, with a home visit as well, He was told he needed a 1300 minimum. He eventually was admitted with a 1290. It’s academics first, sports second. If you really want to believe your daughter is getting into a top 5 academic school with a 1200 SAT, good luck with that!