Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Regarding the UA discussion and the quote: "In most cases, there is a direct correlation between the number of Under Armour All-Americans a team brings in and how competitive the team is."

My interpretation is the the person was trying to say that the programs that tend to bring in the most UA All-Americans tend to be the most competitive programs. I did not read it as would win the championship or win vs every team with less UA players.

below is Copied from another discussion

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* "To put things in perspective... Someone defined Top DI schools as "Top 10 Ranked schools". If we look at the past 5 full seasons of play, 2015 - 2019 and look at the Final Rankings there were a total of 20 teams that were ranked in the Top 10. Below is the list of teams that finished in the Top 10 (also listed How many year the team finished in the top 20)

Maryland - 5x Top 10
North Carolina - 5X Top 10

Boston College - 4X Top 10 (5X Top 20)
Princeton - 4X Top 10 (5X Top 20)
Syracuse - 4X Top 10 (5X Top 20)

Northwestern - 3X Top 10 (5X Top 20)
Florida - 3X Top 10 (5X Top 20)
Stony Brook - 3X Top 10 (5X Top 20)
Virginia - 2X Top 10 (5X Top 20)
Penn - 1X Top 10 (5X Top 20)

I would say the above are Top 10 Programs as they have finished in the Top 10 and are also finish in the Top 20 every year.

The teams listed below have also finished in the Top 10 but seem to be less consistent as they do not always finish in the Top 20.

Penn State - 3X Top 10 (4X Top 20)
Notre Dame - 2X Top 10 (4X Top 20)

Loyola - 2X Top 10 (3X Top 20)
USC - 2X Top 10 (3X Top 20)
Navy - 2X Top 10 (3X Top 20)

Stanford - 1X Top 10 (3X Top 20)
JMU - 1X Top 10 "National Champion" (3X Top 20)
Duke - 1X Top 10 (2X Top 20)
Towson - 1X Top 10 (2X Top 20)
Denver - 1X Top 10 (2X Top 20)"*
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The most competitive programs bring in more talent than other schools. Whether they are UA All-Americans or not the vast majority of players who are offered a spot at the Top Programs are very very good players. When a non UA player walks in and starts or plays in every game as a freshmen at one of the top programs... Yes, they could have been on the UA team, I'm sure they were deserving.

From what I can tell, it looks like there is definitely some correlation .... it looks like the programs that consistently out perform 85 - 90% of the programs every year and are consistently in the Top 10 or Top 20 are mostly the teams that bring in the most UA players. 7 of those top 10 programs are also in the top 10 with UA players.

That said, the real correlation is between how many "legit players" a program brings in and how competitive the program is. There are great players who do not make UA and there are great players that do make UA...
The thing most of them have in common is that they go to the best programs.

Rarely if ever do programs not listed above challenge to be a Top 10 or even top 20 team. The common denominator is talent. The top teams simply have more talent. Combine talent with good or great coaching and you have a chance to win a championship. There will always be deserving players who do not get selected because there are a limited number of spots “44”. Position plays a role as well, a player could be one of the Top 10 goalies if they only take 4 the player is out of luck.... same goes for the other positions.

The original post did not try to disparage players who are not selected, it only pointed out that many of the players that did make it were very good players. Pretty sure the reason for the post was to combat the many posts over the years that have been critical of UA.

It has been said on here many times, “the only list that really matters is the college coaches lists.” Some players fall through the cracks but for the most part the top programs appear to consistently identify the top talent.

Rational people realize that there are more than 44 exceptional seniors.