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Re: Halloween Havoc Tournament Master Schedule
Anonymous #90001 10/19/14 08:21 AM
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Question for anybody? I know 91 has a lot of teams but does anybody know the difference from the Orange and Stampede? I notice they have a 2018 Stampede Gold and a 2019 Black in the 8th grade division? Thanks


Orange is Team91's A team. Stampede is their 3rd/4th team. At 2019, Stampede has 2 teams, 1 will be playing in A brackets(Black) this season and the other will play in B brackets(Gold).


Sometimes Orange is their 2nd team, like in 2018- the top team is called Extreme. Unless you know the club it is very confusing. Express has weird names too and you can't be sure the Wovetines, Terps or Cudas are A unless you know the grade.

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Re: Halloween Havoc Tournament Master Schedule
Anonymous #90019 10/19/14 10:44 AM
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Correction on scores : 2021 Express Wolverines first beat 2021 Outlaws Black 6-0 but then a much more intense 5-2 championship game. Proud of the Wolves -

But to the two posters who discredit the Outlaws - thats the problem that your teams will find out. Wolves clearly showed they can win against top A talent. Outlaws are now top A talent. They are bizarrely better than I recall. They lost last week to the Legacy Blue Knights 6-5 and they definitely took their fair share of shots on goal against us today. They also beat the Cudas a few months ago and Smash last summer.
Any indication that either team is not an "A" team - after the efforts shown by both is asinine at best. Wolves will gel into an AA. Outlaws Black will likely beat every idiotic team that underestimates their grit, speed, talent and goaltending.

It's actually refreshing some other programs are developing a core and now competing against us in 2021. Igloo and 91 Orange aside- Wolves dominates the rest of 2021 for now until we meet them. Just my opinion. After watching both tourneys this year. Igloo was really strong last week especially against Legacy Blue. Not sure the Wolves can take them right now. Wonder who will ever get to play 91 Orange. Haha kinda a joke not to play the best of best on LI first.


Outlaws lost to cudas last week by 2 - don't forget that. Cudas gas a core in place but turned over pretty good so we will see what they have as eh season develops.

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TheBackOfTheCage #90028 10/19/14 12:38 PM
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Team 91 used to be a organization to be proud of . That's not the case any longer . They will cheat , take away playing time from kids, pull last minute shenanigans at games /tournaments . Yesterday many parents and teams said they are fed up with team 91. We need to stop going to their events and just let them bury their reputation . The entire organization is a joke. Bunch of holdbacks, coaches that play their kids in all levels , and just unfair teamwork . Anyone who is new to their league will not be happy . They run the show . You think you have your kid in the best you are sadly mistaken . Good luck . Express is another money maker. All these top A clubs same . Unless your kid is top stud your kid will not be gaining anything but a win in tournament . Playing and learning at this age is what will get your son a chance later to play in college /high school. Keep going to these clubs and watching your kid get wasted away, by the time he gets older and he won't want or make it because he played so much early and his body is run down . Sad we lost grip of what lacrosse is all about . I commend the parents that don't feed into these clubs .

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Anonymous #90031 10/19/14 01:05 PM
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Well said. You are 100 % correct and anyone who thinks not is a parent of a kid who is the new flavor. They will learn when their kids day comes. I've been in this "scene" for 5 years and have seen a dramatic change for the worse. It's not just the club teams. The parents are guilty too.

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Anonymous #90032 10/19/14 01:10 PM
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Team 91 used to be a organization to be proud of . That's not the case any longer . They will cheat , take away playing time from kids, pull last minute shenanigans at games /tournaments . Yesterday many parents and teams said they are fed up with team 91. We need to stop going to their events and just let them bury their reputation . The entire organization is a joke. Bunch of holdbacks, coaches that play their kids in all levels , and just unfair teamwork . Anyone who is new to their league will not be happy . They run the show . You think you have your kid in the best you are sadly mistaken . Good luck . Express is another money maker. All these top A clubs same . Unless your kid is top stud your kid will not be gaining anything but a win in tournament . Playing and learning at this age is what will get your son a chance later to play in college /high school. Keep going to these clubs and watching your kid get wasted away, by the time he gets older and he won't want or make it because he played so much early and his body is run down . Sad we lost grip of what lacrosse is all about . I commend the parents that don't feed into these clubs .




Your comments are dead on... Anyone who really was a true athletic as a child knows these kids will burn out and it's sad that the parents push them so much at 10 yrs old and feed into everything 91 offers. It is a business people -wake up!!! More then likely your kid will be replaced in a couple of years, to an athletic kid that just picked up lacrosse and is fresh and hungry to play by the time they get into the older grades when it really matters.

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Re: Halloween Havoc Tournament Master Schedule
TheBackOfTheCage #90033 10/19/14 01:14 PM
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Parent coaches DO NOT work!! Even if they are assistant coaches. Igloo has a bunch of assistants who's kids would Never make that team if Daddy wasn't an assistant. Find a club with all hired coaches if you want a fair deal. End of story.

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Anonymous #90035 10/19/14 02:36 PM
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Depends. You also get the min amount of practices and games. I have a parent coach, we do more extra stuff then the organization offers. We do 5 times teh practices and double the tourneys.
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Parent coaches DO NOT work!! Even if they are assistant coaches. Igloo has a bunch of assistants who's kids would Never make that team if Daddy wasn't an assistant. Find a club with all hired coaches if you want a fair deal. End of story.

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Anonymous #90037 10/19/14 02:52 PM
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Name one organization where parents don't coach. I challenge you. Also, btw if you could find one you would probably complain about the cost.

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Anonymous #90039 10/19/14 03:16 PM
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Name one organization where parents don't coach. I challenge you. Also, btw if you could find one you would probably complain about the cost.


Vipers, Blue Sharks, Millon, shall i go on

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TheBackOfTheCage #90041 10/19/14 03:22 PM
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Yeah. That makes sense. Go to the teams where the coaches are paid-- the ones who are in it for the money --- not the guys who are in it maybe so they can teach their kids and some of their friends. They can't possibly be as good as the guy with no school age kids. Perfect example Igloo. I mean... Look at their 2021 A team. Some daddy coach he is! I'm sure those parents really have regrets! And that's just one example. How about 91's 2023 team. Sheer mockery right. Or half the other 91 coaches whose sons have locked up offers at D1 colleges. Seriously guy? There are some All American players who now coach and they are terrible. They don't know how to coach kids. Make educated comments instead of inaccurate generalizations.

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Anonymous #90042 10/19/14 03:37 PM
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But to the two posters who discredit the Outlaws - thats the problem that your teams will find out. Wolves clearly showed they can win against top A talent. Outlaws are now top A talent.


You are what you record says you are. This year they have a losing record, lost to Legacy, Wolverines, TLI and Express Cudas. How does this make them "top A talent" WHo have they beaten this fall ? WHen they beat all these teams but 1 or 2 they will be a top A talent.

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Anonymous #90044 10/19/14 04:11 PM
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Spoken like a true daddy coach. All the daddy coaches I've seen are in it for their own kid and nothing more, except maybe their friends kids too. If u want fairness, paid coaches. There are enough clubs out there that do it.

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Anonymous #90045 10/19/14 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Name one organization where parents don't coach. I challenge you. Also, btw if you could find one you would probably complain about the cost.


Vipers, Blue Sharks, Millon, shall i go on


If your son has a good coach and is better at the end of the season what does it matter whether or not he is paid or has a kid on the team

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Anonymous #90046 10/19/14 04:22 PM
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I don't think an Outlaws parent wrote that. About 4 paragraphs are missing from that quote. I don't think any Outlaws parent claims the 2021 Outlaws are the best or top 3. The Outlaws will play against the "A" teams. Sometimes they will win sometimes get beat. They hope for the kids to have have fun and get better. If that happens the team will get better. Except for Igloo all the "A" 2021 teams play close games. Some teams share or add players to make the games close. Some teams so far have not had a full roster and played shortanded.It is not important who is the best. Having fun and improving is important. We will see how the teams are in the Summer after fall, Winter and Spring training. I would rather see the kids improve and have fun compared to winning a game by one goal. Those wins mean nothing if your kid does not improve or have fun. Relax. It is only October. We will see what happens by the end of July.Until then all this talk is garbage.
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But to the two posters who discredit the Outlaws - thats the problem that your teams will find out. Wolves clearly showed they can win against top A talent. Outlaws are now top A talent.


You are what you record says you are. This year they have a losing record, lost to Legacy, Wolverines, TLI and Express Cudas. How does this make them "top A talent" WHo have they beaten this fall ? WHen they beat all these teams but 1 or 2 they will be a top A talent.

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Anonymous #90051 10/19/14 04:55 PM
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Name one organization where parents don't coach. I challenge you. Also, btw if you could find one you would probably complain about the cost.


Vipers, Blue Sharks, Millon, shall i go on


If your son has a good coach and is better at the end of the season what does it matter whether or not he is paid or has a kid on the team


And all those teams are right there at the top right. LOL

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