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Right off of Dictionary.com. Definition of a Bandit:

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Informal - a person who takes unfair advantage of others, as a merchant who overcharges; swindler; cheat.


LMAO. Even Webster has Spallina's number. Picked a great name for your team. Now that is funny.


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It was the coaches son. We all know who. A disgrace that the kid played on the team. Exactly why teams are starting to not play in 91's tournaments anymore. He controlled the entire game. Express D could not do anything against him.


Are u saying a 7th grader played in 4 th grade game - is that even safe for the 4th graders? Why didn't somebody say something to the coach? That parent should be banned!

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my son did not play in this tournament but I looked on board because I was curious as to how things went. I am wondering if everybody is going to just complain about this and nothing's going to be done about it or is somebody going toactually try to handle this because this is wrong and it should not happen again and it should not be allowed to happen anymore. shenanigans are never going to stop unless somebody speaks up

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Wolves beat the outlaws the first time 7-0 then again in the Championship game 6-2....and who cares...it is fall lax ...it was a nice day and the kids had fun. Wolves are alive and well ...no.disbandment....

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That's funny , Wolverines only beat outlaws by 2 ? Wolves should pack it in as they are suppose to be AA. half those kids should just go back to the legacy team. Seems the Cudas are going to be far more superior this year then that team will ever be. MC it's time to dissolve the wolves !

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who won 2022 and 2021 championships


2021 A- Express beat Outlaws I Believe 5-3, good game.

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spallinia is a deustche that's why you'll never see TLI at any of those tournaments

Really, I didn't know he was German.


Ha! Not German but definitely a [lacrosse]! The whole family is about as smart as a box of rocks. Maybe as they continue to underperform in school they can join their sister on 2025!

They will have their pick of strong island cc's

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It was the coaches son. We all know who. A disgrace that the kid played on the team. Exactly why teams are starting to not play in 91's tournaments anymore. He controlled the entire game. Express D could not do anything against him.


Are u saying a 7th grader played in 4 th grade game - is that even safe for the 4th graders? Why didn't somebody say something to the coach? That parent should be banned!


Better yet report him to the tournament director.

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Many post during tryouts that fl$ 2021 was going to be an "A" team and they were loaded with talent. How did they do today?

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The team 91 organization is a joke if this is true . They can't win fair apparently . Have to pull in a older kid . And the fact that the organization allows for a coach to bring on his son is appalling . Smash , united , bandits all team 91 club should be banned . Their reputation has declined more and more . You may have best coaching and training but your tactics show what too are made of . And express 2022 is not far behind . Win at all costs how MC dictates the outcome isn't going to work . The kids you think you have are not top players and will sink before you know it . Some of those kids that played on Outlaws are on MC team and MC will soon realize they aren't his winners . They didn't do much for the outlaws last year . Other good teams need to step up and give Long Island a reputable name in lacrosse again. We can and are the best in my opinion - Long Island .

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Bob is back

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What's funny is how jealous you sound. You must be a cudas dad and angry because your kid didn't make the wolves. The wolves won the tournament today,
All the teams looked great for the first tournament and they all played hard.
Let's leave it as a good day of lax. Cudas weren't even there and You think they should dissolve the team that just won the tournament because the Cudas are better?
Support your kid no matter what team he's on and teach him to always give 100%.
Not to bring other people down to make yourself feel better.
What's wrong with the cudas being a b+ team if your kids happy there?


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It was the coaches son. We all know who. A disgrace that the kid played on the team. Exactly why teams are starting to not play in 91's tournaments anymore. He controlled the entire game. Express D could not do anything against him.


Are u saying a 7th grader played in 4 th grade game - is that even safe for the 4th graders? Why didn't somebody say something to the coach? That parent should be banned!

That parent runs the tournament.

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How did legacy do ?

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It was the coaches son. We all know who. A disgrace that the kid played on the team. Exactly why teams are starting to not play in 91's tournaments anymore. He controlled the entire game. Express D could not do anything against him.


Are u saying a 7th grader played in 4 th grade game - is that even safe for the 4th graders? Why didn't somebody say something to the coach? That parent should be banned!


Better yet report him to the tournament director.


Good luck going to the tournament director- the tournament is run by 91....if thats true its just taking something away from the kids and the sport.

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Correction on scores : 2021 Express Wolverines first beat 2021 Outlaws Black 6-0 but then a much more intense 5-2 championship game. Proud of the Wolves -

But to the two posters who discredit the Outlaws - thats the problem that your teams will find out. Wolves clearly showed they can win against top A talent. Outlaws are now top A talent. They are bizarrely better than I recall. They lost last week to the Legacy Blue Knights 6-5 and they definitely took their fair share of shots on goal against us today. They also beat the Cudas a few months ago and Smash last summer.
Any indication that either team is not an "A" team - after the efforts shown by both is asinine at best. Wolves will gel into an AA. Outlaws Black will likely beat every idiotic team that underestimates their grit, speed, talent and goaltending.

It's actually refreshing some other programs are developing a core and now competing against us in 2021. Igloo and 91 Orange aside- Wolves dominates the rest of 2021 for now until we meet them. Just my opinion. After watching both tourneys this year. Igloo was really strong last week especially against Legacy Blue. Not sure the Wolves can take them right now. Wonder who will ever get to play 91 Orange. Haha kinda a joke not to play the best of best on LI first.

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Tough showing for fl$ 2021 - "A" team. They might be loaded but didn't see it.
They ran into blowouts by all 4- largest against Outlaws, then Smash, Wolves, And Saints.
They stayed active though and tried their best and good for those fl$ kids.
Perhaps if Legacy Blue just stayed in the bracket haha ???? smile


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It was the coaches son. We all know who. A disgrace that the kid played on the team. Exactly why teams are starting to not play in 91's tournaments anymore. He controlled the entire game. Express D could not do anything against him.


Are u saying a 7th grader played in 4 th grade game - is that even safe for the 4th graders? Why didn't somebody say something to the coach? That parent should be banned!


Better yet report him to the tournament director.


Kid is in 5th grade- started school late, never held back. Bandits played in 5th gr bracket. He normally plays with a 7th grade team, but is in 5th gr. no rules broken and it appears many people are in favor of grade based teams, not U based teams. Unless something changes, this is 100 percent within the rules. If changes were made and you had to go by age, then all the teams with kids that started school late would have to be reconfigured. I would gather there are at least 2-3 kids held back from starting kindergarten on each team on all grades, in all clubs.

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HILLS PARENT: Don't be so proud of calling yourself that. Was your kid the one who called in the Bomb Threat at the Half Hollow Hills West HS last week or perhaps he was the one who stabbed the kid at the Half Hollow Hills East HS Football game Friday night. Your time may be better spent cleaning up your community and teaching your kid how to read than on a message board about Lacrosse, oh wait!!!! That's why your kids are doing those things, you're the [lacrosse] parent who thinks having a 6th grader play on a 4th grade team is smart and safe for the other 4th graders. GOT IT! Real brain you are.

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It was the coaches son. We all know who. A disgrace that the kid played on the team. Exactly why teams are starting to not play in 91's tournaments anymore. He controlled the entire game. Express D could not do anything against him.


Are u saying a 7th grader played in 4 th grade game - is that even safe for the 4th graders? Why didn't somebody say something to the coach? That parent should be banned!


Better yet report him to the tournament director.


Kid is in 5th grade- started school late, never held back. Bandits played in 5th gr bracket. He normally plays with a 7th grade team, but is in 5th gr. no rules broken and it appears many people are in favor of grade based teams, not U based teams. Unless something changes, this is 100 percent within the rules. If changes were made and you had to go by age, then all the teams with kids that started school late would have to be reconfigured. I would gather there are at least 2-3 kids held back from starting kindergarten on each team on all grades, in all clubs.


I'd like to know how the paying parents of the boys who sat in his place feel about an unnecessary guest appearance

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Question for anybody? I know 91 has a lot of teams but does anybody know the difference from the Orange and Stampede? I notice they have a 2018 Stampede Gold and a 2019 Black in the 8th grade division? Thanks


Orange is Team91's A team. Stampede is their 3rd/4th team. At 2019, Stampede has 2 teams, 1 will be playing in A brackets(Black) this season and the other will play in B brackets(Gold).


Sometimes Orange is their 2nd team, like in 2018- the top team is called Extreme. Unless you know the club it is very confusing. Express has weird names too and you can't be sure the Wovetines, Terps or Cudas are A unless you know the grade.

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Correction on scores : 2021 Express Wolverines first beat 2021 Outlaws Black 6-0 but then a much more intense 5-2 championship game. Proud of the Wolves -

But to the two posters who discredit the Outlaws - thats the problem that your teams will find out. Wolves clearly showed they can win against top A talent. Outlaws are now top A talent. They are bizarrely better than I recall. They lost last week to the Legacy Blue Knights 6-5 and they definitely took their fair share of shots on goal against us today. They also beat the Cudas a few months ago and Smash last summer.
Any indication that either team is not an "A" team - after the efforts shown by both is asinine at best. Wolves will gel into an AA. Outlaws Black will likely beat every idiotic team that underestimates their grit, speed, talent and goaltending.

It's actually refreshing some other programs are developing a core and now competing against us in 2021. Igloo and 91 Orange aside- Wolves dominates the rest of 2021 for now until we meet them. Just my opinion. After watching both tourneys this year. Igloo was really strong last week especially against Legacy Blue. Not sure the Wolves can take them right now. Wonder who will ever get to play 91 Orange. Haha kinda a joke not to play the best of best on LI first.


Outlaws lost to cudas last week by 2 - don't forget that. Cudas gas a core in place but turned over pretty good so we will see what they have as eh season develops.

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Team 91 used to be a organization to be proud of . That's not the case any longer . They will cheat , take away playing time from kids, pull last minute shenanigans at games /tournaments . Yesterday many parents and teams said they are fed up with team 91. We need to stop going to their events and just let them bury their reputation . The entire organization is a joke. Bunch of holdbacks, coaches that play their kids in all levels , and just unfair teamwork . Anyone who is new to their league will not be happy . They run the show . You think you have your kid in the best you are sadly mistaken . Good luck . Express is another money maker. All these top A clubs same . Unless your kid is top stud your kid will not be gaining anything but a win in tournament . Playing and learning at this age is what will get your son a chance later to play in college /high school. Keep going to these clubs and watching your kid get wasted away, by the time he gets older and he won't want or make it because he played so much early and his body is run down . Sad we lost grip of what lacrosse is all about . I commend the parents that don't feed into these clubs .

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Well said. You are 100 % correct and anyone who thinks not is a parent of a kid who is the new flavor. They will learn when their kids day comes. I've been in this "scene" for 5 years and have seen a dramatic change for the worse. It's not just the club teams. The parents are guilty too.

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Team 91 used to be a organization to be proud of . That's not the case any longer . They will cheat , take away playing time from kids, pull last minute shenanigans at games /tournaments . Yesterday many parents and teams said they are fed up with team 91. We need to stop going to their events and just let them bury their reputation . The entire organization is a joke. Bunch of holdbacks, coaches that play their kids in all levels , and just unfair teamwork . Anyone who is new to their league will not be happy . They run the show . You think you have your kid in the best you are sadly mistaken . Good luck . Express is another money maker. All these top A clubs same . Unless your kid is top stud your kid will not be gaining anything but a win in tournament . Playing and learning at this age is what will get your son a chance later to play in college /high school. Keep going to these clubs and watching your kid get wasted away, by the time he gets older and he won't want or make it because he played so much early and his body is run down . Sad we lost grip of what lacrosse is all about . I commend the parents that don't feed into these clubs .




Your comments are dead on... Anyone who really was a true athletic as a child knows these kids will burn out and it's sad that the parents push them so much at 10 yrs old and feed into everything 91 offers. It is a business people -wake up!!! More then likely your kid will be replaced in a couple of years, to an athletic kid that just picked up lacrosse and is fresh and hungry to play by the time they get into the older grades when it really matters.

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Parent coaches DO NOT work!! Even if they are assistant coaches. Igloo has a bunch of assistants who's kids would Never make that team if Daddy wasn't an assistant. Find a club with all hired coaches if you want a fair deal. End of story.

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Depends. You also get the min amount of practices and games. I have a parent coach, we do more extra stuff then the organization offers. We do 5 times teh practices and double the tourneys.
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Parent coaches DO NOT work!! Even if they are assistant coaches. Igloo has a bunch of assistants who's kids would Never make that team if Daddy wasn't an assistant. Find a club with all hired coaches if you want a fair deal. End of story.

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Name one organization where parents don't coach. I challenge you. Also, btw if you could find one you would probably complain about the cost.

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Name one organization where parents don't coach. I challenge you. Also, btw if you could find one you would probably complain about the cost.


Vipers, Blue Sharks, Millon, shall i go on

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Yeah. That makes sense. Go to the teams where the coaches are paid-- the ones who are in it for the money --- not the guys who are in it maybe so they can teach their kids and some of their friends. They can't possibly be as good as the guy with no school age kids. Perfect example Igloo. I mean... Look at their 2021 A team. Some daddy coach he is! I'm sure those parents really have regrets! And that's just one example. How about 91's 2023 team. Sheer mockery right. Or half the other 91 coaches whose sons have locked up offers at D1 colleges. Seriously guy? There are some All American players who now coach and they are terrible. They don't know how to coach kids. Make educated comments instead of inaccurate generalizations.

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But to the two posters who discredit the Outlaws - thats the problem that your teams will find out. Wolves clearly showed they can win against top A talent. Outlaws are now top A talent.


You are what you record says you are. This year they have a losing record, lost to Legacy, Wolverines, TLI and Express Cudas. How does this make them "top A talent" WHo have they beaten this fall ? WHen they beat all these teams but 1 or 2 they will be a top A talent.

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Spoken like a true daddy coach. All the daddy coaches I've seen are in it for their own kid and nothing more, except maybe their friends kids too. If u want fairness, paid coaches. There are enough clubs out there that do it.

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Name one organization where parents don't coach. I challenge you. Also, btw if you could find one you would probably complain about the cost.


Vipers, Blue Sharks, Millon, shall i go on


If your son has a good coach and is better at the end of the season what does it matter whether or not he is paid or has a kid on the team

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I don't think an Outlaws parent wrote that. About 4 paragraphs are missing from that quote. I don't think any Outlaws parent claims the 2021 Outlaws are the best or top 3. The Outlaws will play against the "A" teams. Sometimes they will win sometimes get beat. They hope for the kids to have have fun and get better. If that happens the team will get better. Except for Igloo all the "A" 2021 teams play close games. Some teams share or add players to make the games close. Some teams so far have not had a full roster and played shortanded.It is not important who is the best. Having fun and improving is important. We will see how the teams are in the Summer after fall, Winter and Spring training. I would rather see the kids improve and have fun compared to winning a game by one goal. Those wins mean nothing if your kid does not improve or have fun. Relax. It is only October. We will see what happens by the end of July.Until then all this talk is garbage.
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But to the two posters who discredit the Outlaws - thats the problem that your teams will find out. Wolves clearly showed they can win against top A talent. Outlaws are now top A talent.


You are what you record says you are. This year they have a losing record, lost to Legacy, Wolverines, TLI and Express Cudas. How does this make them "top A talent" WHo have they beaten this fall ? WHen they beat all these teams but 1 or 2 they will be a top A talent.

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Name one organization where parents don't coach. I challenge you. Also, btw if you could find one you would probably complain about the cost.


Vipers, Blue Sharks, Millon, shall i go on


If your son has a good coach and is better at the end of the season what does it matter whether or not he is paid or has a kid on the team


And all those teams are right there at the top right. LOL

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You sound like a meathead. Most normal parents don't care if those teams are "at the top" and would rather their kid get playing time and good coaching. Not watch the coaches kid and all his friends play wether or not they are better players. No one should give a crap about wins or losses at this age. Only the Daddy's living through their kids care about that.

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What a bad example, these teams listed are not very good. A paid coach is going to give you the bare minimum they are paid to do. Daddy coaches regardless of motive will give you unlimited time and effort. Fact.

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I too saw all those posts from fl$ parents that fl$ 2021 was going to be a top A team this year and they were loaded with talent. They lost many talented kids to other teams this year. Those kids not coming back had to be a problem for them. I knew they would take a big step backwards but the scores that are being reported here seem exaggerated. Are the post here true that they went 0-4 yesterday and all blowouts?

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Tough showing for fl$ 2021 - "A" team. They might be loaded but didn't see it.
They ran into blowouts by all 4- largest against Outlaws, then Smash, Wolves, And Saints.
They stayed active though and tried their best and good for those fl$ kids.
Perhaps if Legacy Blue just stayed in the bracket haha ???? smile


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Time and effort from Daddy coach is great if your son of daddy coach or daddy coach's friend. Obviously u guys are either Daddy coach or his friend so you guys are sitting pretty.

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Most dad coaches I had put 10x the effort as paid pros

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