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BOTC is opening a thread to discuss the National Premier Youth Lacrosse League. The web site link has been added to the Lacrosse Leagues Content Island along the left side of your display.

The NPYLL has published the following information on their web site's opening page :

If your club is interested in joining the NPYLL for 2012, we are actively looking for club teams from the Annapolis, Baltimore and DC metro areas for 2012 American Conference. We are also pursuing teams in the Philly/NJ. Interested clubs, please contact the league at info@npyll.com.

Age Updates for 2012
  • U-15 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1996 - Aug 31 1998 (generally 7th & 8th grade boys)
  • U-13 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1998 - Aug 31 2000 (generally 5th & 6th grade boys)
  • U-11 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2000 - Aug 31 2002 (generally 3rd & 4th grade boys)
  • U-9 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2002 - Aug 31 2004 (generally 1st & 2nd grade boys)

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As you will also note, the Long Island Express has opted to play in this league this year which as BOTC indicated last year is the first clear sign of elite clubs looking for competition outside of the typical tournament format.

The games are scheduled from early April through Memorial Day, very similar to the Spring schedules one might expect to see from Premier or top regional soccer teams in their well established regional leagues.

The league caters for AA and A level teams.

Among the participants from the 2011 were the Arden Attackers, Breakers, Cannons, Club Blue, BLC Crabs, Fearless, Hawks, MadLax, Next Level, General, Looney's, Chesapeake Rock, Hotstix, SP Lax, and Zingos Lacrosse.

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The NPYLL also hosted their 2011 FallFest Champions tournament. The results from this November event are as follows.

2011 NPYLL FallFest Champions

U15AA - Crabs beat LI Express 9-6 in Final
U15A - Next Level beat Cannons 4-3 in final
U13AA - Madlax beat Crabs in 2OT's, 7-6 in Final
U13A - Hawks went 4-0 on the day to clinch
U11AA - Next Level beat Bethesda 5-2 in the final
U11A - Next Level went 4-0 on the day to clinch

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The following are the general guidelines regarding the administation of the NPYLL games.

Administration of NPYLL

Roster sizes will be limited to 25 players.

Your roster can have up to 5 players added and subtracted, up to the 3rd game of the season.

Season will be 7 games with top 4 teams playing for league championship.

NPYLL will provide awards for the league champion.

We are following NCAA Rules.

Rosters may be checked each game by opposing team.

Illegal players can not be used for games. Fist time offense, forfeit the game, second time forfeit the season.

Refs: Home team coordinates refs, both teams pay at game time.

All players must be members of US Lacrosse.

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Age Updates for 2012

•U-15 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1996 - Aug 31 1998 (generally 7th & 8th grade boys)
•U-13 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1998 - Aug 31 2000 (generally 5th & 6th grade boys)
•U-11 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2000 - Aug 31 2002 (generally 3rd & 4th grade boys)
•U-9 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2002 - Aug 31 2004 (generally 1st & 2nd grade boys)


using U-13 ages as an example boys born:
Sept 1 1998 - Aug 31 1999 - are generally in 7th grade
Sept 1 1999 - Aug 31 2000 - are generally in 6th grade

The info states this is a 5th/6th grade division. Is this a typo?

Or are the organizers of an elite program encouraging parents to hold their children back in school for the puposes of lacrosse development?

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where are these games played

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using U-13 ages as an example boys born:
Sept 1 1998 - Aug 31 1999 - are generally in 7th grade
Sept 1 1999 - Aug 31 2000 - are generally in 6th grade

The info states this is a 5th/6th grade division. Is this a typo?

Or are the organizers of an elite program encouraging parents to hold their children back in school for the puposes of lacrosse development?
The table of U/years to graduation year to birth dates (based on your school's cut off dates) follow. In New [lacrosse], the cut off dates cane be anywhere from August to December on grade years which is why that is always a dangerous figure to be using.

U/Age .. Grad ... Birth ..... Grade
U/18 ... 2012 ... 1993/94 ... 12
U/17 ... 2013 ... 1994/95 ... 11
U/16 ... 2014 ... 1995/96 ... 10
U/15 ... 2015 ... 1996/97 ... 9
U/14 ... 2016 ... 1997/98 ... 8
U/13 ... 2017 ... 1998/99 ... 7
U/12 ... 2018 ... 1999/00 ... 6
U/11 ... 2019 ... 2000/01 ... 5
U/10 ... 2020 ... 2001/02 ... 4

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Discussions indicate that there might be double-headers played if the games are in the Maryland area. Notice that the league is trying to attract some teams in the Philadelphia area. If New Jersey and Pennsylvania can be brought into the league, you will then have a "northern" axis which makes the league signficantly more interesting regionally. Keep your eyes on this developing story as it has the possibility to improve te competition landscape.

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Age Updates for 2012
U-15 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1996 - Aug 31 1998 (generally 7th & 8th grade boys)
U-13 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1998 - Aug 31 2000 (generally 5th & 6th grade boys)
U-11 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2000 - Aug 31 2002 (generally 3rd & 4th grade boys)
U-9 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2002 - Aug 31 2004 (generally 1st & 2nd grade boys)

If anyone every disputes the way Maryland holds their kids back, here is all the proof you need. U-13 5th and 6th grade??? It doesn't matter as its an age based league but really shows their thinking and unfortunate impact on this problem.

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Keep in mind the school cut off in Maryland is Aug 31 or Sept 1. Where in NY its Dec 1.


It should be all about Grades, thats who the kids will compete with in High School and for College spots.

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9 years old in 2nd grade????????????? Something wrong there my kid is in 3rd grade and is 8 .

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Keep in mind the school cut off in Maryland is Aug 31 or Sept 1. Where in NY its Dec 1.


It should be all about Grades, thats who the kids will compete with in High School and for College spots.


Your missing the point, in YOUTH lacrosse it should ALL be about safety! You can let them compete against each other at the grade level when they get to HS, recruiting camps and tournaments. These age/ grade make no sense no matter what state you are from.

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Age Updates for 2012
U-15 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1996 - Aug 31 1998 (generally 7th & 8th grade boys)
U-13 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1998 - Aug 31 2000 (generally 5th & 6th grade boys)
U-11 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2000 - Aug 31 2002 (generally 3rd & 4th grade boys)
U-9 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2002 - Aug 31 2004 (generally 1st & 2nd grade boys)

If anyone every disputes the way Maryland holds their kids back, here is all the proof you need. U-13 5th and 6th grade??? It doesn't matter as its an age based league but really shows their thinking and unfortunate impact on this problem.


You have no idea what you're talking about. Nearly everyone in the Mid-Atlantic who plays U13 is in 6th or 7th grade.

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Age Updates for 2012
U-15 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1996 - Aug 31 1998 (generally 7th & 8th grade boys)
U-13 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1998 - Aug 31 2000 (generally 5th & 6th grade boys)
U-11 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2000 - Aug 31 2002 (generally 3rd & 4th grade boys)
U-9 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2002 - Aug 31 2004 (generally 1st & 2nd grade boys)

If anyone every disputes the way Maryland holds their kids back, here is all the proof you need. U-13 5th and 6th grade??? It doesn't matter as its an age based league but really shows their thinking and unfortunate impact on this problem.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Nearly everyone in the Mid-Atlantic who plays U13 is in 6th or 7th grade.
Rather than spending more time on the grade grouping (which is clearly in error), let's get back to the formation of the league in the "northern" states and more club participation.

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The Baltimore teams do encourage hold backs. Especially the blc crabs. He is one of the founders of the npyll so he makes sure the dates work. It makes him look like a lax guru when he has teams stacked with boys one and two years older than most. How many boys on his team could be in the grade above? All done to get in schools by parents he exploits as the wizard. Just look at his golden boy stanwick he was almost 20 when graduating high school.

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The Baltimore teams do encourage hold backs. Especially the blc crabs. He is one of the founders of the npyll so he makes sure the dates work. It makes him look like a lax guru when he has teams stacked with boys one and two years older than most. How many boys on his team could be in the grade above? All done to get in schools by parents he exploits as the wizard. Just look at his golden boy stanwick he was almost 20 when graduating high school.


Assuming you are talking about Steele and not a brother - according to wikipedia he was born 9/12/89 and graduated HS in 2007 at the age of 18 and college in 2011 at the age of 22 - although apparently his nickname in college was grandpa but that was because he walked like an old man not because his club team held him back.

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Yes thats his birthday but he graduated in the spring of 2008. Assuming he graduated in may of 2008 that makes him 19 years and 8 months old when he graduated. Im a fan of him and as you see holdback works. My point is that they do hold back and the players are not on equal ground especially at the younger ages.

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Up until the end of your freshman year the guidelines should be about age and safety. After that grade can come in. Nobody can disagree that long island teams do not size up in u15 but after that they dominate again. Could be one of the reasons kids get held back. Another problem is these are still kids let them grow into there bodies before you rate them

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For Spring 2012, the NPYLL have added two new "franchises" : the Zingos and Maryland Elite. Best wishes to both joining clubs.

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What happened to the express? I dont see them on the web site as joining the npyll anymore.

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What happened to the express? I dont see them on the web site as joining the npyll anymore.


They don't have their website listed with the other clubs. I heard a rumor that enrollment in the OBLL is light this year. Maybe they needed them in the 2016 bracket to fill it out?

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According to the NPYLL web site (see the content island on the left side of the BOTC display), action opens on Sunday, April 1st.

From a local regional perspective, none of the New [lacrosse]/New Jersey teams that were being discussed have joined the program for this season.

Brackets and teams follow.

National (AA) U/15 Teams
Breakers, Cannons, Club Blue, Crabs, Hawks, MadLax, MD Elite, Next Level, Rock, Zingos

National (AA) U/13 Teams
Arden, Bethesda, Breakers, Cannons, Club Blue, Crabs, Fearless, Generals, Hawks, MadLax, MLC, Next Level, Rock, Zingos

National (AA) U/11 Teams
Bethesda, Breakers, Cannons, Club Blue, Fearless, Hawks, MD Elite, MLC, Next Level Zingos

American (A) U/15 Teams
Bethesda, Cannons, Cavaliers, Club Blue, Cobras, Generals, MadLax, MD Elite, Next Level, Zingos

American (A) U/13 Teams
Arden, Breakers, Bethesda, Cannons, Club Blue, Generals, Hawks, Hotstix, MadLax Blue, MadLax White, MD Elite, Next Level, Rock, Zingos

American (A) U/11 Teams
Arden Blue, Arden Green, Bethesda, Club Blue, Generals, MadLax, MLC, Next Level

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Notice the rules for the NPYLL Spring 2012 season per their web site :

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Procedures - Administration of NPYLL:

•Roster sizes will be limited to 25 players.
•Your roster can have up to 5 players added and subtracted, up to the 3rd game of the season.
•Season will be 7 games with top 4 teams playing for league championship.
•NPYLL will provide awards for the league champion.
•We are following NCAA Rules.
•Rosters may be checked each game by opposing team.
•Illegal players can not be used for games. First time offense, forfeit the game, second time forfeit the season.
•Refs: Home team coordinates refs, both teams pay at game time.
•All players must be members of US Lacrosse.

Anyone notice that rosters "may be checked" for each game by the opposing team? Notice the penalties and sanctions being called out here?

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National (AA) U/15 Schedule - Spring 2012

Breakers - Crabs (h) 4/1/2012
Next Level - Cannons (h) 4/1/2012
Zingos - Club Blue (h) 4/1/2012
Madlax - Hawks (h) 4/1/2012
Rock - MD Elite (h) 4/1/2012
Club Blue - Breakers (h) 4/15/2012
Cannons - Rock (h) 4/15/2012
Crabs - Madlax (h) 4/15/2012
Hawks - Zingos (h) 4/15/2012
MD Elite - Next Level (h) 4/15/2012
Next Level - Breakers (h) 4/22/2012
Madlax - Cannons (h) 4/22/2012
MD Elite - Club Blue (h) 4/22/2012
Crabs - Hawks (h) 4/22/2012
Rock - Zingos (h) 4/22/2012
Hawks - Breakers (h) 4/29/2012
Cannons - Club Blue (h) 4/29/2012
Rock - Crabs (h) 4/29/2012
MD Elite - Madlax (h) 4/29/2012
Zingos - Next Level (h) 4/29/2012
Madlax - Club Blue (h) 5/6/2012
Cannons - Crabs (h) 5/6/2012
Breakers - Zingos (h) 5/6/2012
MD Elite - Hawks (h) 5/6/2012
Next Level - Rock (h) 5/6/2012
Breakers - Cannons (h) 5/13/2012
Club Blue - Crabs (h) 5/13/2012
Hawks - Rock (h) 5/13/2012
Madlax - Next Level (h) 5/13/2012
Zingos - MD Elite (h) 5/13/2012
Breakers - MD Elite (h) 5/20/2012
Club Blue - Rock (h) 5/20/2012
Crabs - Next Level (h) 5/20/2012
Zingos - Madlax (h) 5/20/2012
Cannons - Hawks (h) 5/20/2012

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 NPYLL>American (A)>U11>
Rank Team W L T GP PCT GF GA 
 1 Arden Green 100 17 
 1 Cannons 100 17 
 1 Next Level 100 
 2 Arden Blue 50 10 12 
 3 Bethesda 
 3 Club Blue 
 4 Generals 11 
 5 MLC 17 

 
 NPYLL>American (A)>U13>
Rank Team W L T GP PCT GF GA 
 1 Hawks 100 12 
 2 Bethesda 100 
 3 Breakers 100 22 
 4 MD Elite 100 16 
 5 Hotstix 50 11 19 
 6 Generals 50 
 7 Arden 50 11 12 
 8 Zingos 50 14 14 
 9 Madlax White 
 10 Cannons 
 10 Club Blue 
 10 Madlax Blue 
 11 Rock 12 
 12 Next Level 14 

 
 NPYLL>American (A)>U15>
Rank Team W L T GP PCT 
 1 Club Blue 100 
 1 Generals 100 
 1 Next Level 100 
 2 Madlax 50 
 3 Cavaliers 
 3 Bethesda 
 3 Cannons 
 3 Cobra 
 3 MD Elite 
 3 Zingos 

 
 NPYLL>National (AA)>U11>
Rank Team W L T GP PCT 
 1 Hawks 100 
 1 Next Level 100 
 2 Breakers 50 
 2 Club Blue 50 
 2 Madlax 50 
 2 MD Elite 50 
 2 Zingos 50 
 3 Fearless 
 3 MLC 
 3 Bethesda 

 
 NPYLL>National (AA)>U13>
Rank Team W L T GP PCT 
 1 Breakers 100 
 2 Cannons 50 
 2 Fearless 50 
 2 Hawks 50 
 2 Madlax 50 
 2 Arden 50 
 2 Club Blue 50 
 2 Crabs 50 
 2 Zingos 50 
 3 Bethesda 
 3 Generals 
 3 MLC 
 3 Rock 
 3 Next Level 

 
 NPYLL>National (AA)>U15>
Rank Team W L T GP PCT 
 1 Club Blue 100 
 1 Next Level 100 
 2 Crabs 50 
 2 Cannons 50 
 2 Hawks 50 
 2 Rock 50 
 2 Zingos 50 
 3 Madlax 
 3 Breakers 
 3 MD Elite 

 

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  NPYLL>American (A)>U11>
Rank TeamWLTGPPCTGFGA
 1 Arden Green 86 54 28 
 2 Cannons 86 68 24 
 3 Generals 71 38 27 
 4 Next Level 57 50 47 
 5 Arden Blue 43 40 54 
 6 Bethesda 43 44 38 
 7 MLC 14 21 53 
 8 Club Blue 14 58 

  NPYLL>American (A)>U13>
Rank TeamWLTGPPCTGFGA
 1 Bethesda 100 53 21 
 2 Hawks 100 88 36 
 3 MD Elite 83 48 30 
 4 Generals 71 42 31 
 5 Breakers 71 47 33 
 6 Zingos 57 49 52 
 7 Club Blue 57 47 34 
 8 Rock 43 55 57 
 9 Madlax Blue 29 46 44 
 10 Hotstix 29 35 59 
 11 Arden 29 28 46 
 12 Next Level 17 27 49 
 13 Madlax White 14 29 67 
 14 Cannons 18 53 

  NPYLL>American (A)>U15>
Rank TeamWLTGPPCTGFGA
 1 Club Blue 100 55 11 
 2 Generals 100 49 16 
 3 Next Level 83 46 26 
 4 Madlax 71 55 34 
 5 Cannons 33 21 44 
 6 Zingos 33 23 45 
 7 Cobra 17 31 38 
 8 Bethesda 14 16 50 
 9 MD Elite 16 48 

  NPYLL>National (AA)>U11>
Rank TeamWLTGPPCTGFGA
 1 Next Level 100 77 43 
 2 Madlax 86 70 48 
 3 Bethesda 57 50 38 
 4 Club Blue 57 58 46 
 5 MD Elite 57 50 52 
 6 Hawks 43 60 60 
 7 MLC 29 46 53 
 8 Zingos 29 46 72 
 9 Breakers 29 45 66 
 10 Fearless 14 49 73 

  NPYLL>National (AA)>U13>
Rank TeamWLTGPPCTGFGA
 1 Breakers 100 74 30 
 2 Crabs 86 106 27 
 3 Madlax 86 65 37 
 4 Hawks 71 61 36 
 5 Arden 71 46 52 
 6 Cannons 57 43 51 
 7 Next Level 57 44 53 
 8 Zingos 43 36 52 
 9 Rock 43 56 64 
 10 Fearless 43 61 74 
 11 MLC 14 28 59 
 12 Bethesda 14 42 67 
 13 Club Blue 14 45 68 
 14 Generals 29 66 

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  NPYLL>National (AA)>U15>
Rank TeamWLTGPPCTGFGA
 1 Club Blue 100 74 24 
 2 Crabs 86 109 33 
 3 Next Level 86 67 45 
 4 Hawks 71 52 42 
 5 Madlax 43 46 53 
 6 Zingos 43 30 49 
 7 Cannons 29 45 69 
 8 Rock 14 19 56 
 9 MD Elite 14 31 60 
 10 Breakers 14 30 72 


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Notice the rules for the NPYLL Spring 2012 season per their web site :

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Procedures - Administration of NPYLL:

•Roster sizes will be limited to 25 players.
•Your roster can have up to 5 players added and subtracted, up to the 3rd game of the season.
•Season will be 7 games with top 4 teams playing for league championship.
•NPYLL will provide awards for the league champion.
•We are following NCAA Rules.
•Rosters may be checked each game by opposing team.
•Illegal players can not be used for games. First time offense, forfeit the game, second time forfeit the season.
•Refs: Home team coordinates refs, both teams pay at game time.
•All players must be members of US Lacrosse.

Anyone notice that rosters "may be checked" for each game by the opposing team? Notice the penalties and sanctions being called out here?


And SCPAL has coaches handing in rosters scribbled on napkins. Why they cant have a book like Football is beyond me.

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