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BOTC is opening our Fall 2014 through Summer 2015 thread covering the Girls 2021 age group.

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How many current YJ from the 2nd and 3rd team are trying out elsewhere and why?

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I was told since merger with 91 many are leaving

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Why would they leave?

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I was told since merger with 91 many are leaving

YJ merged with 91?????

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My daughter just finished her 1st year on the top YJ team and we had a great experience. We didn't know a soul and were immediatley treated like family.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


YJ will get at least two shots next summer, looks like M&D going to National Draw and Lax for the Cure. Lost 3-5 this summer, will get them next year!!!

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My daughter just finished her 1st year on the top YJ team and we had a great experience. We didn't know a soul and were immediatley treated like family.


Don't get too comfortable.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.


Usually lots of movement at the young ages in most strong clubs, 8th 9 th grade the roster changes settle down, and the teams become what they are, for now it is a battle for supremacy between players on each team and even team status amongst other clubs.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.


Elevate was a good team, second best on LI behind YJ in this age group, a great accomplishment. Just to complete the picture, YJ was 3-0 against Elevate this summer. Some close games but they were played as "short" 20 minute playoff games. The one full game they played was 6-1. I would get a win against these programs before you put yourself out there as being at their level. By the way, the Skywalkers team that played in that tourney was listed as 2021/2022 so I would expect you to beat them.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.


Elevate was a good team, second best on LI behind YJ in this age group, a great accomplishment. Just to complete the picture, YJ was 3-0 against Elevate this summer. Some close games but they were played as "short" 20 minute playoff games. The one full game they played was 6-1. I would get a win against these programs before you put yourself out there as being at their level. By the way, the Skywalkers team that played in that tourney was listed as 2021/2022 so I would expect you to beat them.


Agree, Skywalkers were not a strong team. The fact that Elevate lost to YJ early in tournament season by a wider margin when the team had only practiced twice together, the better and more accurate picture was the 3-2 game which took place toward the end of tournament season after the kids actually played together for several weeks.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.


Elevate was a good team, second best on LI behind YJ in this age group, a great accomplishment. Just to complete the picture, YJ was 3-0 against Elevate this summer. Some close games but they were played as "short" 20 minute playoff games. The one full game they played was 6-1. I would get a win against these programs before you put yourself out there as being at their level. By the way, the Skywalkers team that played in that tourney was listed as 2021/2022 so I would expect you to beat them.


Agree, Skywalkers were not a strong team. The fact that Elevate lost to YJ early in tournament season by a wider margin when the team had only practiced twice together, the better and more accurate picture was the 3-2 game which took place toward the end of tournament season after the kids actually played together for several weeks.


We will look back and laugh next season.

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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.

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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


She must not have seen TG2020 Black play last year

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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


She must not have seen TG2020 Black play last year


Difference is M&D won't blow up, losing coaches and players and fizzle out.

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M&D is an elite program and 2021 Black is an elite team. However, as time goes by, the talent gap closes and the team concept is challenged by recruiting pressures.

The key is not only assembling talent, but building a team that can withstand those pressures.

Lots of good teams at 2021. Good luck to all!

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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


She must not have seen TG2020 Black play last year


It's a YJ run tournament, so I would assume that she had. Don't see too many behind the back goals in 6th grade girls lacrosse.

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[quote=Anonymous]M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


She must not have seen TG2020 Black play last year


It's a YJ run tournament, so I would assume that she had. Don't see too many behind the back goals in 6th grade

Who cares if some hot dog scores behing the back in 6 th grade . 90 percent of top travel team kids can shoot behind their back at that age it's just most reasonable parents tell them not to.

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Actually, a behind the back shot is an effective weapon in any player's arsenal. Many of the top scorer's in top level lacrosse use that shot to score. It's part of the game. Not saying that a 6th grader needs it to prove her worth, but more power to the kid that can wield their stick at the higest of levels and it sure does not make them "hot dogs."

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Have watched many of the Div 1 final 4 championships and have never seen a behind the back shot ever ! - in fact at the last PAL game i was at a couple of the girls were fooling around with the behind the back shots and were getting called for dangerous shots - so no - that shot is a show off shot nothing else

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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


How did they do against the YJ team? YJ had about half their blue team there but M&D can only play who shows-up.

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Actually, a behind the back shot is an effective weapon in any player's arsenal. Many of the top scorer's in top level lacrosse use that shot to score. It's part of the game. Not saying that a 6th grader needs it to prove her worth, but more power to the kid that can wield their stick at the higest of levels and it sure does not make them "hot dogs."


Your an idiot. Not exactly a difficult shot to make even for a 6th grader mainly because they are playing against other 6th graders. Nothing more annoying than a kid passing up a high percentage shot to run into position for the behind the back hot dog shot. Rarely a kid catches the ball running out of angle so the behind the back increases that angle which I have no problem with it.

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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


How did they do against the YJ team? YJ had about half their blue team there but M&D can only play who shows-up.


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M&D has gotten stronger as witnessed as this weekend at Prime Time Young Guns this past weekend. Couple new strong players added to what they already had, including a new goalie. Heard one of the refs say they were the best 6th grade team she had seen in 20 years of officiating.


Yes, the ref thought her daughters team was very good.

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Lot's of M&D talk on here...and I know YJ top team at this age is very good. What are the other top teams at 2021?

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M&D is the class of this age group. Excellent on the draw and they come up with every ground ball. This is what separates them from the rest. They always have the ball.

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TG 2020 from last year was a stronger team than the M&D team this year as 6th graders.

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M&D is the class of this age group. Excellent on the draw and they come up with every ground ball. This is what separates them from the rest. They always have the ball.


Very impressive group at M&D, I am looking forward to the summer when both teams are at full strength. I cannot talk for M&D but several top YJ players were not at this event.

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TG 2020 from last year was a stronger team than the M&D team this year as 6th graders.


Perhaps, but that will fade to black as the team has changed significantly this off season. I hope they continue to be good but great seems like a distant memory, only time will tell.

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YJ will be even stronger next year after they drop a couple weak links, like the siblings and add some of the very good new talent from the tryout.

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LOL...Congrats to Top Guns 2020!

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OK, here is what we have so far.

Top 2021 Girls Club Teams

1. Top Guns 2020 (Best of any age group. Ever.)
2. (Tie) M&D 2021 Black
YJ Blue (or whatever they are called)

Anything else?

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OK, here is what we have so far.

Top 2021 Girls Club Teams

1. Top Guns 2020 (Best of any age group. Ever.)
2. (Tie) M&D 2021 Black
YJ Blue (or whatever they are called)

Anything else?


Yes, the sad end to this story is that they will never be the best 7th grade or older team, you will always have to remember back to when they were 6th graders and the good old days.

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OK, here is what we have so far.

Top 2021 Girls Club Teams

1. Top Guns 2020 (Best of any age group. Ever.)
2. (Tie) M&D 2021 Black
YJ Blue (or whatever they are called)

Anything else?


Yes, the sad end to this story is that they will never be the best 7th grade or older team, you will always have to remember back to when they were 6th graders and the good old days.


That's ok it will be a better experience for the remaining players. Unlike most of the parents in the lax world nowadays I will be happy to see the 2020 black team play without the girls that left. Smaller roster and SS coaching them will make them better players. Remember being undefeated means nothing to the college coaches that will be recruiting the girls in three years . Ability to play in the team concept and grow as young ladies on the field and in the classroom is what they will be looking for. The good old days are gone. It was fun to watch the one dominant player take over a game all by herself! I wish her well . I look forward to watching her continue to grow as a player it will be great to see her succeed in life and lacrosse. Good old days , good memories and friendships, better days ahead for all! It's only a game and it will be over before we all know it is.

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OK, here is what we have so far.

Top 2021 Girls Club Teams

1. Top Guns 2020 (Best of any age group. Ever.)
2. (Tie) M&D 2021 Black
YJ Blue (or whatever they are called)

Anything else?


Yes, the sad end to this story is that they will never be the best 7th grade or older team, you will always have to remember back to when they were 6th graders and the good old days.


That's ok it will be a better experience for the remaining players. Unlike most of the parents in the lax world nowadays I will be happy to see the 2020 black team play without the girls that left. Smaller roster and SS coaching them will make them better players. Remember being undefeated means nothing to the college coaches that will be recruiting the girls in three years . Ability to play in the team concept and grow as young ladies on the field and in the classroom is what they will be looking for. The good old days are gone. It was fun to watch the one dominant player take over a game all by herself! I wish her well . I look forward to watching her continue to grow as a player it will be great to see her succeed in life and lacrosse. Good old days , good memories and friendships, better days ahead for all! It's only a game and it will be over before we all know it is.


If you like the team concept in lacrosse then you were better off with SL as coach rather than SS. He promoted that concept. SS to her credit lived and thrived as an isolation player, one of the best ISO players ever. That is what she will be coaching too, great for the couple kids she deems worthy, frustrating for the rest. That being said, 2020 group of parents are the most obnoxious and annoying group ever. This isn't even your age group thread and you have to come on here and make it about you. I thought the dismantling of the 2020 black team would quite all you chest pounders down, your worse than ever. Maybe that's half the reason all the players and coach ditched the team.

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Very well said!

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OK, here is what we have so far.

Top 2021 Girls Club Teams

1. Top Guns 2020 (Best of any age group. Ever.)
2. (Tie) M&D 2021 Black
YJ Blue (or whatever they are called)

Anything else?


Yes, the sad end to this story is that they will never be the best 7th grade or older team, you will always have to remember back to when they were 6th graders and the good old days.


That's ok it will be a better experience for the remaining players. Unlike most of the parents in the lax world nowadays I will be happy to see the 2020 black team play without the girls that left. Smaller roster and SS coaching them will make them better players. Remember being undefeated means nothing to the college coaches that will be recruiting the girls in three years . Ability to play in the team concept and grow as young ladies on the field and in the classroom is what they will be looking for. The good old days are gone. It was fun to watch the one dominant player take over a game all by herself! I wish her well . I look forward to watching her continue to grow as a player it will be great to see her succeed in life and lacrosse. Good old days , good memories and friendships, better days ahead for all! It's only a game and it will be over before we all know it is.


If you like the team concept in lacrosse then you were better off with SL as coach rather than SS. He promoted that concept. SS to her credit lived and thrived as an isolation player, one of the best ISO players ever. That is what she will be coaching too, great for the couple kids she deems worthy, frustrating for the rest. That being said, 2020 group of parents are the most obnoxious and annoying group ever. This isn't even your age group thread and you have to come on here and make it about you. I thought the dismantling of the 2020 black team would quite all you chest pounders down, your worse than ever. Maybe that's half the reason all the players and coach ditched the team.


Well said except SL promotes the team concept is one of the funniest things I have ever heard. TG 2020 played team concept in blowout games only otherwise it was all thru one kid. East Islip the offense has been run thru 1 kid for years and this year will be no different. 2015 TG slightly different , all offense run thru 2 kids. Not saying he does it out of anything other than necessity but team concept is laughable.

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So what makes M&D 2021 so good? Never seen them play, but I assume they too have one or two outstanding players that do a bulk of their scoring. That's how it usually works at this age level.

How about thier defense? Goalkeepers?


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