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BOTC is opening our Fall 2014 through Summer 2015 thread covering the Girls 2019 age group.

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BOTC is opening our Fall 2014 through Summer 2015 thread covering the Girls 2019 age group.


Ok I guess we comment here now. I saw a bunch of TG and YJ teams play Saturday afternoon at ND. First at Cherokee and then over at Savich. Is it just this age group? It seems like an unusually large drop off between first and second teams in both clubs. There is always a drop off of course, but this age seems bigger. Or is it at all the younger ages as more clubs spring up and syphon off the players below the top team. How in the world does YJ put 5 teams out there and call them "Elite". What a snow job.

Skywalker Blue was the best team I say in this age there. And I know M&D has beaten up on them this year.

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There was a really good turn out at Lax For The Cure this weekend. Almost all the top clubs were there.

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The top 19 YJ team is a mess! the start of recruiting and coaches fk up lines...... Don't let girls practice and play with the same group... Top girls are on D during championship games or rotated out.... happens? we lose, BUT ATTACK NEVER LEAVES FIELD, hmmmm... DADDY COACH? Or is it Smithtown team???????????total screw balls.... the year colleges will come and look and NO PRACTICES just lame excuses. Always hear things are for real or made empty promises but no changes. colleges are sitting on sidelines and we're losing because they can't field the strongest version of our team. any parent can create strong lines, why cant tc/kc..??? CAROL, WHERE ARE YOU???? TC AND HIS MINION ARE LOSERS!

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M&D, as expected, won the 2019 bracket championship defeating Hero's 19 Green in the final at Lax for the Cure.
Hero's beat YJ Carro in the semi to make it to the final by a score of 6-5.
M&D 19 Black beat Skywalkers 19 Blue to to make it to the final by a score of 4-3.
Unfortunately for TLC 19 Red, only the first place team in their bracket got out of pool play... and they were in the same pool at M&D.
These are undoubtedly the top teams in the 2019 Bracket: M&D 19 Black, Hero's 19 Green, Skywalkers 19 Blue and YJ Carro.
M&D is 2 for 2 winning the championships where all these clubs competed: McDonough Club Championships and Lax for the Cure.
Unfortunately, the Lax Inception final game which would have seen M&D match up against Hero's 19 Green again was cancelled.

Had M&D won it, It would have been the grand slam of Summer Lax Circuit: McDonough, Lax Inception and Lax for the Cure!

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The top 19 YJ team is a mess! the start of recruiting and coaches fk up lines...... Don't let girls practice and play with the same group... Top girls are on D during championship games or rotated out.... happens? we lose, BUT ATTACK NEVER LEAVES FIELD, hmmmm... DADDY COACH? Or is it Smithtown team???????????total screw balls.... the year colleges will come and look and NO PRACTICES just lame excuses. Always hear things are for real or made empty promises but no changes. colleges are sitting on sidelines and we're losing because they can't field the strongest version of our team. any parent can create strong lines, why cant tc/kc..??? CAROL, WHERE ARE YOU???? TC AND HIS MINION ARE LOSERS!


Agreed! What a shame

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These are undoubtedly the top teams in the 2019 Bracket: M&D 19 Black, Hero's 19 Green, Skywalkers 19 Blue and YJ Carro.


It was a tightly played championship game. It's going to be fun watching these teams go at it for the next few years.

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It is clear that mnd has the top girls 19 team but their program is weak outside of their black teams. Heros and YJ clearly have the best programs going.

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"It is clear that mnd has the top girls 19 team but their program is weak outside of their black teams. Heros and YJ clearly have the best programs going."

Just curious what your criteria is for opining that Heros and YJs have "the best programs going?"

And are you talking about over all, or just this age group as this is an age specific thread.


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Where was Top Guns this weekend?

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The top 19 YJ team is a mess! the start of recruiting and coaches fk up lines...... Don't let girls practice and play with the same group... Top girls are on D during championship games or rotated out.... happens? we lose, BUT ATTACK NEVER LEAVES FIELD, hmmmm... DADDY COACH? Or is it Smithtown team???????????total screw balls.... the year colleges will come and look and NO PRACTICES just lame excuses. Always hear things are for real or made empty promises but no changes. colleges are sitting on sidelines and we're losing because they can't field the strongest version of our team. any parent can create strong lines, why cant tc/kc..??? CAROL, WHERE ARE YOU???? TC AND HIS MINION ARE LOSERS!


A question who was coaching when YJ 19 Carro beat Skywalkers Blue on Fri. ?

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The top 19 YJ team is a mess! the start of recruiting and coaches fk up lines...... Don't let girls practice and play with the same group... Top girls are on D during championship games or rotated out.... happens? we lose, BUT ATTACK NEVER LEAVES FIELD, hmmmm... DADDY COACH? Or is it Smithtown team???????????total screw balls.... the year colleges will come and look and NO PRACTICES just lame excuses. Always hear things are for real or made empty promises but no changes. colleges are sitting on sidelines and we're losing because they can't field the strongest version of our team. any parent can create strong lines, why cant tc/kc..??? CAROL, WHERE ARE YOU???? TC AND HIS MINION ARE LOSERS!


Coaches are gone by the time playoffs start. They don't roll the dice on the chance you might make the playoffs. If they are interested they will be at your scheduled games. What coaches will look at is , does the player have meddling parents who are likely to cause them headaches for four years by second guessing their every move.

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Where was Top Guns this weekend?


Top Guns doesn't go to tournaments on Graduation Weekend for Long Island HS.

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It is clear that mnd has the top girls 19 team but their program is weak outside of their black teams. Heros and YJ clearly have the best programs going.


Carro team would lose to 2020 yj every time, they're not a top team for the age group by any measure

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It is clear that mnd has the top girls 19 team but their program is weak outside of their black teams. Heros and YJ clearly have the best programs going.


Carro team would lose to 2020 yj every time, they're not a top team for the age group by any measure


When you have won games against the top teams in an age bracket ( M&D, Skywalkers) how can you not be considered a top team , you don't really make any sense unless you are just stirring the pot.

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"Carro team would lose to 2020 yj every time, they're not a top team for the age group by any measure"

I don't even want to justify the crazy YJ 2020 parent who has to post on every age bracket thread about his kid (because that is really all he cares about, not the whole 2020 team), however, anyone that does not recognize the YJ 2019 Blue Carro team as a top tier team at this age bracket is kidding themselves.

The fact is there is so much more parity now between the clubs that on any given day one top tier team can beat the other.

Very little separates these teams. One more save, a hit pipe … The scores between the top 5: M&D, Heros, TLC, Skywalkers and YJ have been very close. One thing is for certain: M&D has the most wins… in fact other than the loss to YJ Blue Carro in the Mid Atlantic pool play, I don't think they have lost a game in tournament play.

So while they are all good, this year the M&D team is leading the pack at 2019.

They play excellent lacrosse and are a lot of fun to watch.



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YJ Carro is the worst top team in the YJ organization and is a stain on CR reputation .First off the actual head coach barely shows , his buddy the assistant coach is a complete joke and shameless in his promotion of his own kid and her town friends in favor of kids who are clearly better players. How many times is he going to call isolation plays for his kid ? The funny thing is ask any non Smithtown parent what they think of Coata and everyone of them will say the same thing , he is a clown who realizes he has to be involved coaching in order for certain kids to get ahead as their play does not stand on its own .Not sure what's more pathetic , the jackass coach purposely burying the best kid on the team during a game in which the college she wants to go to is watching, the fact CR knows he is a clown and does nothing , or the parents who are all too afraid to say anything to the coach or CR.

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YJ Carro is the worst top team in the YJ organization and is a stain on CR reputation .First off the actual head coach barely shows , his buddy the assistant coach is a complete joke and shameless in his promotion of his own kid and her town friends in favor of kids who are clearly better players. How many times is he going to call isolation plays for his kid ? The funny thing is ask any non Smithtown parent what they think of Coata and everyone of them will say the same thing , he is a clown who realizes he has to be involved coaching in order for certain kids to get ahead as their play does not stand on its own .Not sure what's more pathetic , the jackass coach purposely burying the best kid on the team during a game in which the college she wants to go to is watching, the fact CR knows he is a clown and does nothing , or the parents who are all too afraid to say anything to the coach or CR.


Have to agree, its the shining example of what's wrong with a daddy coach, especially on what is supposed to be a high level travel team at recruiting age.

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YJ Carro is the worst top team in the YJ organization and is a stain on CR reputation .First off the actual head coach barely shows , his buddy the assistant coach is a complete joke and shameless in his promotion of his own kid and her town friends in favor of kids who are clearly better players. How many times is he going to call isolation plays for his kid ? The funny thing is ask any non Smithtown parent what they think of Coata and everyone of them will say the same thing , he is a clown who realizes he has to be involved coaching in order for certain kids to get ahead as their play does not stand on its own .Not sure what's more pathetic , the jackass coach purposely burying the best kid on the team during a game in which the college she wants to go to is watching, the fact CR knows he is a clown and does nothing , or the parents who are all too afraid to say anything to the coach or CR.


Have to agree, its the shining example of what's wrong with a daddy coach, especially on what is supposed to be a high level travel team at recruiting age.


It's been going on all season. When college coaches are on the sidelines they do wierd things with the top players.

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YJ Carro is the worst top team in the YJ organization and is a stain on CR reputation .First off the actual head coach barely shows , his buddy the assistant coach is a complete joke and shameless in his promotion of his own kid and her town friends in favor of kids who are clearly better players. How many times is he going to call isolation plays for his kid ? The funny thing is ask any non Smithtown parent what they think of Coata and everyone of them will say the same thing , he is a clown who realizes he has to be involved coaching in order for certain kids to get ahead as their play does not stand on its own .Not sure what's more pathetic , the jackass coach purposely burying the best kid on the team during a game in which the college she wants to go to is watching, the fact CR knows he is a clown and does nothing , or the parents who are all too afraid to say anything to the coach or CR.


What do you mean by weird? Sit them and put who they want to be seen? I'm sure CR would not be happy about that.

Have to agree, its the shining example of what's wrong with a daddy coach, especially on what is supposed to be a high level travel team at recruiting age.


It's been going on all season. When college coaches are on the sidelines they do wierd things with the top players.

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Just wondering who this best kid on the team is? No names needed but what HS does she play for?

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Just wondering who this best kid on the team is? No names needed but what HS does she play for?


C'mon really.
These type of posts always start problems. Why not go watch them play and form your own opinion!
There is no reason to make a post like this.


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At least the YJ 19 coach didn't have to be removed by police this tournament.

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At least the YJ 19 coach didn't have to be removed by police this tournament.


Or threaten the parent of an opposing team player. Sad that those are the standards YJ coaches are now held to.

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Totally agree with the above statement. This team will never win a tournament with the current coaching staff. If you implement a new coach with no hidden agenda, this team would be a tough out. That would be the easy fix.

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I love the fact that Dad/Coach/Napolean ran out of the tournament as fast as he could. After losing with his "best players" on the field. What a coward----he would not face the angry mob that he has created.

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Totally agree with the above statement. This team will never win a tournament with the current coaching staff. If you implement a new coach with no hidden agenda, this team would be a tough out. That would be the easy fix.


Is it necessary to address the abilities of a young girl? You have a problem with the coaches and CR fine, but leave the kid out of it.

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Totally agree with the above statement. This team will never win a tournament with the current coaching staff. If you implement a new coach with no hidden agenda, this team would be a tough out. That would be the easy fix.


Is it necessary to address the abilities of a young girl? You have a problem with the coaches and CR fine, but leave the kid out of it.


Your right. Adjustment made.


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i hope these smithtown parents realize that their children are being viewed as not deserving of being on top team. daddy coach has put the smithtown players in a position(deserved or not) that the rest of the club views them as not deserving. he should be removed.

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Waaaaah......Cry me a river , you could never tell that this team is approaching recruiting age . If your superstar is that good she will get noticed. All of the College coaches are long gone by the time the playoffs start so you didn't miss out on anything except some traffic sheeeeesh you people are amazing. If you have a program that your daughter is interested in sign up for their camp and you can guarantee that the coach of your daughters choice will have 3 days to watch her. Of course then you will have no excuses.

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I know it's been said before, but after years with YJ or TG it's extremely disappointing that this downward spiral happens during the key year for the girls. They deserve better.

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Waaaaah......Cry me a river , you could never tell that this team is approaching recruiting age . If your superstar is that good she will get noticed. All of the College coaches are long gone by the time the playoffs start so you didn't miss out on anything except some traffic sheeeeesh you people are amazing. If you have a program that your daughter is interested in sign up for their camp and you can guarantee that the coach of your daughters choice will have 3 days to watch her. Of course then you will have no excuses.


Yes all the kids should have to go to 4-5 different camps for an extra 3-4k so they can be seen because some homer coach is only looking out for "his" kids. What is going on with that team is just simply wrong ,what's worse is at this point CR has to know but seems to not care. You have kids playing out of position for entire games and kids not even getting into games so the kids from the coaches hometown can be showcased, there is nothing fair or right about that.

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I know it's been said before, but after years with YJ or TG it's extremely disappointing that this downward spiral happens during the key year for the girls. They deserve better.


Be carefull what you ask for.

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my favorite parents are those with a 13 or 14 year old who talk about "playing at the next level" not alluding to high school but college.
really kool aid cliché people

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Waaaaah......Cry me a river , you could never tell that this team is approaching recruiting age . If your superstar is that good she will get noticed. All of the College coaches are long gone by the time the playoffs start so you didn't miss out on anything except some traffic sheeeeesh you people are amazing. If you have a program that your daughter is interested in sign up for their camp and you can guarantee that the coach of your daughters choice will have 3 days to watch her. Of course then you will have no excuses.


Yes all the kids should have to go to 4-5 different camps for an extra 3-4k so they can be seen because some homer coach is only looking out for "his" kids. What is going on with that team is just simply wrong ,what's worse is at this point CR has to know but seems to not care. You have kids playing out of position for entire games and kids not even gettinOg into games so the kids from the coaches hometown can be showcased, there is nothing fair or right about that.


Guess what that's exactly what your daughters future coach will request. She will want to measure you up against other potential recruits in her drills. If you are among a schools top 3 recruits most likely not but otherwise be prepared to attend some camps.

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Waaaaah......Cry me a river , you could never tell that this team is approaching recruiting age . If your superstar is that good she will get noticed. All of the College coaches are long gone by the time the playoffs start so you didn't miss out on anything except some traffic sheeeeesh you people are amazing. If you have a program that your daughter is interested in sign up for their camp and you can guarantee that the coach of your daughters choice will have 3 days to watch her. Of course then you will have no excuses.


Yes all the kids should have to go to 4-5 different camps for an extra 3-4k so they can be seen because some homer coach is only looking out for "his" kids. What is going on with that team is just simply wrong ,what's worse is at this point CR has to know but seems to not care. You have kids playing out of position for entire games and kids not even getting into games so the kids from the coaches hometown can be showcased, there is nothing fair or right about that.

If you do not think that college camps are worth it and have put all your eggs into the club basket - I can understand why you are getting upset about who plays or does not play. Good luck with the whole process.

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Waaaaah......Cry me a river , you could never tell that this team is approaching recruiting age . If your superstar is that good she will get noticed. All of the College coaches are long gone by the time the playoffs start so you didn't miss out on anything except some traffic sheeeeesh you people are amazing. If you have a program that your daughter is interested in sign up for their camp and you can guarantee that the coach of your daughters choice will have 3 days to watch her. Of course then you will have no excuses.


Yes all the kids should have to go to 4-5 different camps for an extra 3-4k so they can be seen because some homer coach is only looking out for "his" kids. What is going on with that team is just simply wrong ,what's worse is at this point CR has to know but seems to not care. You have kids playing out of position for entire games and kids not even gettinOg into games so the kids from the coaches hometown can be showcased, there is nothing fair or right about that.


Guess what that's exactly what your daughters future coach will request. She will want to measure you up against other potential recruits in her drills. If you are among a schools top 3 recruits most likely not but otherwise be prepared to attend some camps.


They also want to see you play at these tournaments and want to see you play the position they are looking at you for. Its a disgrace when a coach obviously favors their daughter and their town kids ,all these kids should be playing in every game .Have seen that act come back to bite these daddy coaches and their kids before. If a college coach shows up at a field hoping to watch a kid play and that kid gets little playing time it annoys the coach .The other issue is you create bad feelings with the parents on the team, some of these parents have relationships with college coaches, be it thru older siblings, past friendships , mutual friend etc., when they talk with the coaches their evaluation of their kids coach will definitely be discussed.

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Waaaaah......Cry me a river , you could never tell that this team is approaching recruiting age . If your superstar is that good she will get noticed. All of the College coaches are long gone by the time the playoffs start so you didn't miss out on anything except some traffic sheeeeesh you people are amazing. If you have a program that your daughter is interested in sign up for their camp and you can guarantee that the coach of your daughters choice will have 3 days to watch her. Of course then you will have no excuses.


Just so I've got this right you're going to bad mouth a club coach to a college coach and think it will reflect poorly on your daughters coach? How long before the college coach figures out they can do without a troublesome parent who talks behind coaches backs.
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Yes all the kids should have to go to 4-5 different camps for an extra 3-4k so they can be seen because some homer coach is only looking out for "his" kids. What is going on with that team is just simply wrong ,what's worse is at this point CR has to know but seems to not care. You have kids playing out of position for entire games and kids not even gettinOg into games so the kids from the coaches hometown can be showcased, there is nothing fair or right about that.


Guess what that's exactly what your daughters future coach will request. She will want to measure you up against other potential recruits in her drills. If you are among a schools top 3 recruits most likely not but otherwise be prepared to attend some camps.


They also want to see you play at these tournaments and want to see you play the position they are looking at you for. Its a disgrace when a coach obviously favors their daughter and their town kids ,all these kids should be playing in every game .Have seen that act come back to bite these daddy coaches and their kids before. If a college coach shows up at a field hoping to watch a kid play and that kid gets little playing time it annoys the coach .The other issue is you create bad feelings with the parents on the team, some of these parents have relationships with college coaches, be it thru older siblings, past friendships , mutual friend etc., when they talk with the coaches their evaluation of their kids coach will definitely be discussed.

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Actually my point was more about coaches they already have a relationship with , personally I have a business relationship with the husband of a college coach . My kid has no real interest in that school but have had many discussions over the years with both the coach and her husband about parents , coaches , and players . I am comfortable expressing my opinion as I have an existing relationship w them . I have friends with kids on that team and each has said its a nightmare so if asked I would tell them I hear the coaching is a nightmare . Not that difficult to understand and I believe that reputation has affected kids in the past .Good luck to them, I hope it all works out .i am not a big proponent of daddy coached teams .

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