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Never mind the silver team, there are kids on the "Black" team that might not even start on the silver team but are there because of patronage or connections to owners.

Boat loads of 17 year olds playing 2017.

Well look at it this way, if your kid gets a D1 lacrosse offer you can likely recover a few dimes on a dollar offset on the years of club dues via the scholarship money he gets.

Turtles are at 10 committed,

3 Hopkins
1 UNC
1 Fairfield
2 Harvard
1 Bucknell
1 Duke
1 Maryland


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Harvard is now permitting public verbals for rising sophs? It was a big no-no last year...apparently they had 6 or more non-public verbals in 2016 class. I actually don't see a commit list for Harvard 2016s where I looked. Not doubting it, but are the rules that there are no rules for 2017s and up? [/quote]

I have a 2017 player who to be clear is not a big Ivy lacrosse recruit, but is a student who could apply with good chances to be admitted. I also have a sister who married up to someone on Harvard's Board of Trustees. Turns out that my brother-in-law's conversations with the Admissions Dean at Harvard College went a little differently than this. No Harvard coach is permitted to designate spots to student athletes as high school entering sophomores or juniors. There is such a thing at Harvard as a "pressure list" of kids being recruited by sports teams at other institutions (this involves documented offers from other schools to merit acceleration), and these applications can be considered and admissions could be offered to a kid in September of their senior year. Further, the lacrosse coach at Harvard does not have spots to offer.

What Harvard lacrosse coaches can do for you is recommend admissions by way of a referral letter that goes into the admissions file for a candidate. Being committed to the admissions process means that a kid being recruited in a sport applies for admission and gets a letter of recommendation from the coach recruiting him, which has about the same weight as being a legacy or relative of a big donor which is our hope for Harvard.

Lastly, be careful Turtle Dads...don't think you are helping the "Smithtown FO guy to Harvard" or his family at all with the Daddy bragging, and you might have already done more damage onto the poor kid than you might imagine to be so. The Admissions people at Harvard didn't find it too amusing and have long memories. Aim high, and there isn't higher than Harvard. But remember that lacrosse is something the person who matters - the Admissions Dean at Harvard College - could not care any less about.

Harvard is now permitting public verbals for rising sophs? It was a big no-no last year...apparently they had 6 or more non-public verbals in 2016 class. I actually don't see a commit list for Harvard 2016s where I looked. Not doubting it, but are the rules that there are no rules for 2017s and up? [/quote]

I have a 2017 player who to be clear is not a big Ivy lacrosse recruit, but is a student who could apply with good chances to be admitted. I also have a sister who married up to someone on Harvard's Board of Trustees. Turns out that my brother-in-law's conversations with the Admissions Dean at Harvard College went a little differently than this. No Harvard coach is permitted to designate spots to student athletes as high school entering sophomores or juniors. There is such a thing at Harvard as a "pressure list" of kids being recruited by sports teams at other institutions (this involves documented offers from other schools to merit acceleration), and these applications can be considered and admissions could be offered to a kid in September of their senior year. Further, the lacrosse coach at Harvard does not have spots to offer.

What Harvard lacrosse coaches can do for you is recommend admissions by way of a referral letter that goes into the admissions file for a candidate. Being committed to the admissions process means that a kid being recruited in a sport applies for admission and gets a letter of recommendation from the coach recruiting him, which has about the same weight as being a legacy or relative of a big donor which is our hope for Harvard.

Lastly, be careful Turtle Dads...don't think you are helping the "Smithtown FO guy to Harvard" or his family at all with the Daddy bragging, and you might have already done more damage onto the poor kid than you might imagine to be so. The Admissions people at Harvard didn't find it too amusing and have long memories. Aim high, and there isn't higher than Harvard. But remember that lacrosse is something the person who matters - the Admissions Dean at Harvard College - could not care any less about. [/quote]

Smithtown f/o is more of a stud in the classroom than on the lax field

Try DIII, if your son has decent grades, the schools seem to find academic and merit money for athletes. Even for those who don't have a prayer with any financial aid... 30% off on $56,000 tab is not too shabby.

Hate to burst your bubble but EVERY candidate
For admission to Harvard is a stud in the classroom. Stop bragging about him and let's things fall where they will

I have a 2017 player who to be clear is not a big Ivy lacrosse recruit, but is a student who could apply with good chances to be admitted. I also have a sister who married up to someone on Harvard's Board of Trustees. Turns out that my brother-in-law's conversations with the Admissions Dean at Harvard College went a little differently than this. No Harvard coach is permitted to designate spots to student athletes as high school entering sophomores or juniors. There is such a thing at Harvard as a "pressure list" of kids being recruited by sports teams at other institutions (this involves documented offers from other schools to merit acceleration), and these applications can be considered and admissions could be offered to a kid in September of their senior year. Further, the lacrosse coach at Harvard does not have spots to offer.

What Harvard lacrosse coaches can do for you is recommend admissions by way of a referral letter that goes into the admissions file for a candidate. Being committed to the admissions process means that a kid being recruited in a sport applies for admission and gets a letter of recommendation from the coach recruiting him, which has about the same weight as being a legacy or relative of a big donor which is our hope for Harvard.

Lastly, be careful Turtle Dads...don't think you are helping the "Smithtown FO guy to Harvard" or his family at all with the Daddy bragging, and you might have already done more damage onto the poor kid than you might imagine to be so. The Admissions people at Harvard didn't find it too amusing and have long memories. Aim high, and there isn't higher than Harvard. But remember that lacrosse is something the person who matters - the Admissions Dean at Harvard College - could not care any less about. [/quote]

Smithtown f/o is more of a stud in the classroom than on the lax field [/quote]

Great for the kid. You do realize Harvard declines admission to over 3,500 high school valedictorians each year on average, no? Sounds like this will have a solid application to Harvard in Fall of 2016. So why hurt the kid's chances to gain admission to Harvard in three years by lying about it now? If my kid's name was being leaked out there as "going to Harvard" and Bill Fitzsimmons knew about that and thought negatively on it, I'd be pretty concerned. He'll stamp reject on it just on principle if he feels undermined. Sounds like you're not getting the memo.

After all that I bet the kid still gets into Harvard. Good luck young man!

Harvard is now permitting public verbals for rising sophs? It was a big no-no last year...apparently they had 6 or more non-public verbals in 2016 class. I actually don't see a commit list for Harvard 2016s where I looked. Not doubting it, but are the rules that there are no rules for 2017s and up? [/quote]

I have a 2017 player who to be clear is not a big Ivy lacrosse recruit, but is a student who could apply with good chances to be admitted. I also have a sister who married up to someone on Harvard's Board of Trustees. Turns out that my brother-in-law's conversations with the Admissions Dean at Harvard College went a little differently than this. No Harvard coach is permitted to designate spots to student athletes as high school entering sophomores or juniors. There is such a thing at Harvard as a "pressure list" of kids being recruited by sports teams at other institutions (this involves documented offers from other schools to merit acceleration), and these applications can be considered and admissions could be offered to a kid in September of their senior year. Further, the lacrosse coach at Harvard does not have spots to offer.

What Harvard lacrosse coaches can do for you is recommend admissions by way of a referral letter that goes into the admissions file for a candidate. Being committed to the admissions process means that a kid being recruited in a sport applies for admission and gets a letter of recommendation from the coach recruiting him, which has about the same weight as being a legacy or relative of a big donor which is our hope for Harvard.

Lastly, be careful Turtle Dads...don't think you are helping the "Smithtown FO guy to Harvard" or his family at all with the Daddy bragging, and you might have already done more damage onto the poor kid than you might imagine to be so. The Admissions people at Harvard didn't find it too amusing and have long memories. Aim high, and there isn't higher than Harvard. But remember that lacrosse is something the person who matters - the Admissions Dean at Harvard College - could not care any less about. [/quote]

ladies and gentleman we have our biggest DB award.

Harvard Shmarvard move on.

Jeez, how dumb could you LI guys be. On Twitter bragging about Harvard class of 2021. If the lax coach is a supporter, don't do stupid things to make him look like a fool...which you already did.

What was the best showcase events so far for rising sophs? Jake Reed, Black Card or Showtime? From amount of coaches and better players. Thanks in advance.

let me get this straight, your brother in law is on the board at Harvard, and you took it upon yourself to create an issue in hopes to make a problem for this young man? Could you be a bigger dk??!! What happens when your son doesn't get hired by Goldman, you have a brother in law there to complain to? You must be a treat to have as a bro in law, envious [lacrosse].

Why is he a [lacrosse]? Because someone is lying about beimg recruited in 10th to harvard?

People grow up

let me explain, all Ivy league candidates are committing to the admissions process, there is no guarantee that they will be admitted. This AC is telling us he complained to his Bro in law who is on the Board of Trustees, who then brought it up to admissions, then intimated they could be rejected.
How was your day? Great I'm envious of a young man who wants to and is good enough to play at Harvard and i did my best to crush his dreams. PS he's a FDB

Must be different for girls. There were sophs last year who committed to Harvard.

Don't repeat that. That loser is probably calling his Brother in law again.

Harvard is now permitting public verbals for rising sophs? It was a big no-no last year...apparently they had 6 or more non-public verbals in 2016 class. I actually don't see a commit list for Harvard 2016s where I looked. Not doubting it, but are the rules that there are no rules for 2017s and up? [/quote]

I have a 2017 player who to be clear is not a big Ivy lacrosse recruit, but is a student who could apply with good chances to be admitted. I also have a sister who married up to someone on Harvard's Board of Trustees. Turns out that my brother-in-law's conversations with the Admissions Dean at Harvard College went a little differently than this. No Harvard coach is permitted to designate spots to student athletes as high school entering sophomores or juniors. There is such a thing at Harvard as a "pressure list" of kids being recruited by sports teams at other institutions (this involves documented offers from other schools to merit acceleration), and these applications can be considered and admissions could be offered to a kid in September of their senior year. Further, the lacrosse coach at Harvard does not have spots to offer.

What Harvard lacrosse coaches can do for you is recommend admissions by way of a referral letter that goes into the admissions file for a candidate. Being committed to the admissions process means that a kid being recruited in a sport applies for admission and gets a letter of recommendation from the coach recruiting him, which has about the same weight as being a legacy or relative of a big donor which is our hope for Harvard.

Lastly, be careful Turtle Dads...don't think you are helping the "Smithtown FO guy to Harvard" or his family at all with the Daddy bragging, and you might have already done more damage onto the poor kid than you might imagine to be so. The Admissions people at Harvard didn't find it too amusing and have long memories. Aim high, and there isn't higher than Harvard. But remember that lacrosse is something the person who matters - the Admissions Dean at Harvard College - could not care any less about. [/quote]


Don't listen to this guy. My son recently graduated from Harvard and was recruited and played lacrosse. It's not really different at Harvard than Johns Hopkins (other than no scholarships). True, you are not formally "accepted" until senior year. (this is true at non Ivy's as well). But what you do get is a letter which basically says you will be given strong consideration for admissions as long as you continue to perform in school, etc. sort of like a highly confident letter. It is obviously not binding but neither is a verbal from Maryland. LOI signing (for non IVYs) is the only time when a contract is formed between player and institution.

And as for no scholarships, if you meet the need based criteria (as we did), there are plenty of grants (not loans), which are the same (and arguably better) than scholarships.

I have a 2017 player who to be clear is not a big Ivy lacrosse recruit, but is a student who could apply with good chances to be admitted. I also have a sister who married up to someone on Harvard's Board of Trustees. Turns out that my brother-in-law's conversations with the Admissions Dean at Harvard College went a little differently than this. No Harvard coach is permitted to designate spots to student athletes as high school entering sophomores or juniors. There is such a thing at Harvard as a "pressure list" of kids being recruited by sports teams at other institutions (this involves documented offers from other schools to merit acceleration), and these applications can be considered and admissions could be offered to a kid in September of their senior year. Further, the lacrosse coach at Harvard does not have spots to offer.

What Harvard lacrosse coaches can do for you is recommend admissions by way of a referral letter that goes into the admissions file for a candidate. Being committed to the admissions process means that a kid being recruited in a sport applies for admission and gets a letter of recommendation from the coach recruiting him, which has about the same weight as being a legacy or relative of a big donor which is our hope for Harvard.

Lastly, be careful Turtle Dads...don't think you are helping the "Smithtown FO guy to Harvard" or his family at all with the Daddy bragging, and you might have already done more damage onto the poor kid than you might imagine to be so. The Admissions people at Harvard didn't find it too amusing and have long memories. Aim high, and there isn't higher than Harvard. But remember that lacrosse is something the person who matters - the Admissions Dean at Harvard College - could not care any less about. [/quote]


Don't listen to this guy. My son recently graduated from Harvard and was recruited and played lacrosse. It's not really different at Harvard than Johns Hopkins (other than no scholarships). True, you are not formally "accepted" until senior year. (this is true at non Ivy's as well). But what you do get is a letter which basically says you will be given strong consideration for admissions as long as you continue to perform in school, etc. sort of like a highly confident letter. It is obviously not binding but neither is a verbal from Maryland. LOI signing (for non IVYs) is the only time when a contract is formed between player and institution.

And as for no scholarships, if you meet the need based criteria (as we did), there are plenty of grants (not loans), which are the same (and arguably better) than scholarships.
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What is your name? I am calling my brother-in-law...he s going to rescind your diploma!!!

Turtles committed are:

3 Hopkins
1 UNC
2 Fairfield
2 Harvard
1 Bucknell
1 Duke
1 Maryland
1 UPenn

Ps. Saw the Harvard coach this weekend and congratulated him on his 2017 class...He said thank you.

I have a 2017 player who to be clear is not a big Ivy lacrosse recruit, but is a student who could apply with good chances to be admitted. I also have a sister who married up to someone on Harvard's Board of Trustees. Turns out that my brother-in-law's conversations with the Admissions Dean at Harvard College went a little differently than this. No Harvard coach is permitted to designate spots to student athletes as high school entering sophomores or juniors. There is such a thing at Harvard as a "pressure list" of kids being recruited by sports teams at other institutions (this involves documented offers from other schools to merit acceleration), and these applications can be considered and admissions could be offered to a kid in September of their senior year. Further, the lacrosse coach at Harvard does not have spots to offer.

What Harvard lacrosse coaches can do for you is recommend admissions by way of a referral letter that goes into the admissions file for a candidate. Being committed to the admissions process means that a kid being recruited in a sport applies for admission and gets a letter of recommendation from the coach recruiting him, which has about the same weight as being a legacy or relative of a big donor which is our hope for Harvard.

Lastly, be careful Turtle Dads...don't think you are helping the "Smithtown FO guy to Harvard" or his family at all with the Daddy bragging, and you might have already done more damage onto the poor kid than you might imagine to be so. The Admissions people at Harvard didn't find it too amusing and have long memories. Aim high, and there isn't higher than Harvard. But remember that lacrosse is something the person who matters - the Admissions Dean at Harvard College - could not care any less about. [/quote]


Don't listen to this guy. My son recently graduated from Harvard and was recruited and played lacrosse. It's not really different at Harvard than Johns Hopkins (other than no scholarships). True, you are not formally "accepted" until senior year. (this is true at non Ivy's as well). But what you do get is a letter which basically says you will be given strong consideration for admissions as long as you continue to perform in school, etc. sort of like a highly confident letter. It is obviously not binding but neither is a verbal from Maryland. LOI signing (for non IVYs) is the only time when a contract is formed between player and institution.

And as for no scholarships, if you meet the need based criteria (as we did), there are plenty of grants (not loans), which are the same (and arguably better) than scholarships.
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Love it - the majic word "Grants" - the one thing that if you keep your grades up stay with you (most of the time) even if you stop playing. Much better than scholarships. grades... grades... grades


What a way to a brighter future

12 commits is pretty legit and I don't think any other club is close to that although it's not a race or competition.

Goalies generally go later in the process and the turtles goalies are very good. 2016 goalies on very good teams are still uncommitted.

Goalies are one of the last positions looked at for recruiting, but I bet this kid has his phone ringing off the hook with interested coaches feeling him out- and of course, he may very well be waiting for an Ivy.

Doesn't Maverik sell a lot of equip thru Lacrosse Unlimited?
Just sayin

So did others who shouldn't. Politics!

I guess when he played a great game against the crabs to win the championship game at crab feast that was politics also. You have no idea what you are talking about, the kid is a top-tier goalie who will go to a great college. And you are just an envious A - hole

what kind of man attacks a kid. Go back to beating your wife and kids you piece of s..t!!!

OMG.... Lax daddy gone wild!

I have to say i've read some classless statements on these pages but this one takes the cake. Asst Coach??? How dare you!

I had a College coach answer that for me a few years ago when he said " its had to get a feel for a goalie who only sees 5/6 shots in a game " seems like the Turtles dominance has hurt their 2 very good goalies.

There are 68 2017 commits according to inside lacrosse, 4 are goalies...I would not look too deeply into any teams goalies specifically.

And you are close to these two kids to know that?

I think it is a sad state of affairs that adults feel the need to disparage young boys. Every kid on every team works hard to hopefully get an opportunity to play lacrosse in college. You should be encouraging the boys to always srtive for the best. They will all find a college that that is a good fit for them academically and athletically. I would think you have better things to do with your time!

...and don't forget "hater of the year" award.
Just imagine this DB cornering his bro-in-law at the family 4th of July BBQ

Most of the Turtle's that participated in the Maverick Showtime didn't make the All-Star game. No politics involved hear. Do the research.

No politics involved HERE. Unless you are HEARing about the politics.

Most of the turtles did not make all-star team, that is true. Its also true that a bunch of LI and PA kids that are excellent players & about 25 commits from all over the US didn't make all star game. Several of their selections had people confused. Regardless, its also true that the goalie from turtles your speaking of is a very strong goalie.

I am friendly with one of the coaches from Showtime. He felt that the Turtles are decent players for the most part, but well over hyped, and not any different than the majority of the other players at the camp.

Liar liar pants on fire.