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Why is lacrosse not like elite club soccer? Soccer is all age based. Girls playing U-16, U-17 can be in odd school years as holdbacks. Nobody in soccer seems confused if they are recruiting a specific U16 kid who is a 2017 or a 2016 at a tournament. Do we have a confidence problem that NCAA lacrosse coaches can't read the school year from a tournament roster sheet?

The coaches don't seem to care to see through the reclassifying game. It stinks on a whole bunch of levels, but the truth is that all the coaches care about is your graduation year, period, end of story.

My son's 2017 team now has four committed players, and another two who are close. 5 of the 6 should be 2016's, and I can promise you none of the college coaches care.

This is becoming as much about simple supply and demand at the top end of the college food chain as it is about trying to game the system.

The coaches don't seem to care to see through the reclassifying game. It stinks on a whole bunch of levels, but the truth is that all the coaches care about is your graduation year, period, end of story.

My son's 2017 team now has four committed players, and another two who are close. 5 of the 6 should be 2016's, and I can promise you none of the college coaches care.

This is becoming as much about simple supply and demand at the top end of the college food chain as it is about trying to game the system.

Dear Duke Daddy,
Your son has no accomplished YOUR main goal. He repeated a grade so he could be a better athlete and commit to a school. Now, get the [lacrosse] of this site!

I agree coaches don't care. Look at the Turtles, they are best 2017 team and I hear have the most D1 commits (11 or 12) but I'm sure they are all held back.

I agree coaches don't care. Look at the Turtles, they are best 2017 team and I hear have the most D1 commits (11 or 12) but I'm sure they are all held back.

Not really true at all. Out of the 9 turtles who are D1 commits, maybe 2 of them are held back.

I'll probably catch a lot of flack for this, but here it goes anyway. My son of his own accord ( i know many of you won't believe it, but oh well) has pretty much decided he wants to reclassify.

He's a 2017 on a top club team, but missed most of his high school season, started as a freshmen on a mediocre team, and has had a lower leg injury that has kept him out of most of his summer tournaments. He had an invite to Jake Reed and couldn't play and the only summer tournament he played in was a local event with no exposure so no colleges have seen him play since last fall. He is a semi-late bloomer who wasn't physically big enough (plays close and pole) to be a candidate for early recruiting, but he is a young 2017 and is now 6' 2" and still growing.

He's gotten initial interest from a couple of Patriot League schools, and reclass or not has a great shot at one of them, but in a perfect world he wanted to have all of the available options on the table that are the right academic and athletic fits.

His club coach has been advocating on his behalf anyway, but understandably college coaches want to at least see current video which he doesn't have and better yet see him play which probably won't happen this summer.

Not looking for a shoulder to cry on, and sometimes things aren't fair and you have to deal with the cards that you have been dealt. I think he should plug away through at least the fall season, and hopefully he'll be healthy enough to play at a high level and then make a decision.

The narrowing of the window of opportunity IMO is the worst thing with the early recruiting and early committing. It will be an interesting decision and not sure how I feel about it, but as an earlier poster said it isn't breaking any rules, it sure seems like at least a 1/3 to a 1/2 of the commits so far reclassed or were held back at some point.

The coaches do care. There is little scholarship money in lacrosse to go around, and they don't want to give it out in 5 year pieces with a redshirt year. So they'd like for you the dopey lacrosse parent to pay for a redshirt year before they go to college. Seems to be working out well for them. Lacrosse parents are idiots. You're chasing $5,000 to $10,000 in scholarship money at colleges running over $40,000 up over $60,000 a year. If you need the money for your kid to go to college, you're likely to have same or better luck with the financial aid office.

I'll probably catch a lot of flack for this, but here it goes anyway. My son of his own accord ( i know many of you won't believe it, but oh well) has pretty much decided he wants to reclassify.

He's a 2017 on a top club team, but missed most of his high school season, started as a freshmen on a mediocre team, and has had a lower leg injury that has kept him out of most of his summer tournaments. He had an invite to Jake Reed and couldn't play and the only summer tournament he played in was a local event with no exposure so no colleges have seen him play since last fall. He is a semi-late bloomer who wasn't physically big enough (plays close and pole) to be a candidate for early recruiting, but he is a young 2017 and is now 6' 2" and still growing.

He's gotten initial interest from a couple of Patriot League schools, and reclass or not has a great shot at one of them, but in a perfect world he wanted to have all of the available options on the table that are the right academic and athletic fits.

His club coach has been advocating on his behalf anyway, but understandably college coaches want to at least see current video which he doesn't have and better yet see him play which probably won't happen this summer.

Not looking for a shoulder to cry on, and sometimes things aren't fair and you have to deal with the cards that you have been dealt. I think he should plug away through at least the fall season, and hopefully he'll be healthy enough to play at a high level and then make a decision.

The narrowing of the window of opportunity IMO is the worst thing with the early recruiting and early committing. It will be an interesting decision and not sure how I feel about it, but as an earlier poster said it isn't breaking any rules, it sure seems like at least a 1/3 to a 1/2 of the commits so far reclassed or were held back at some point.

I'll probably catch a lot of flack for this, but here it goes anyway. My son of his own accord ( i know many of you won't believe it, but oh well) has pretty much decided he wants to reclassify.

He's a 2017 on a top club team, but missed most of his high school season, started as a freshmen on a mediocre team, and has had a lower leg injury that has kept him out of most of his summer tournaments. He had an invite to Jake Reed and couldn't play and the only summer tournament he played in was a local event with no exposure so no colleges have seen him play since last fall. He is a semi-late bloomer who wasn't physically big enough (plays close and pole) to be a candidate for early recruiting, but he is a young 2017 and is now 6' 2" and still growing.

He's gotten initial interest from a couple of Patriot League schools, and reclass or not has a great shot at one of them, but in a perfect world he wanted to have all of the available options on the table that are the right academic and athletic fits.

His club coach has been advocating on his behalf anyway, but understandably college coaches want to at least see current video which he doesn't have and better yet see him play which probably won't happen this summer.

Not looking for a shoulder to cry on, and sometimes things aren't fair and you have to deal with the cards that you have been dealt. I think he should plug away through at least the fall season, and hopefully he'll be healthy enough to play at a high level and then make a decision.

The narrowing of the window of opportunity IMO is the worst thing with the early recruiting and early committing. It will be an interesting decision and not sure how I feel about it, but as an earlier poster said it isn't breaking any rules, it sure seems like at least a 1/3 to a 1/2 of the commits so far reclassed or were held back at some point.

Nice Try!

What would be you rationale to the school? Did he pass all his classes? How much would holding back an academically sound ninth grade student benefit him for future studies? He still needs to be prepared academically. Then in ninth grade his friends would still be moving on AND he would still be playing the same level at high school. I know that a move like this in school is not considered reclassifying but retaining and public schools do not support this and you would need to go to an independent impartial hearing to prove your son needs to be retained for academic reasons. Or you can move to a private school where they don't care as long as you can pay the tuition and pass the classes. Your reason is your own and they will allow for it.

In the long term what is the real benefit of holding him back in school. You are not reclassifying but retaining. Is the scholarship worth it when it seems like he will be getting interest anyway?

Just for the sake of the jealousy comments my son has not committed yet but has a few choices also and he hopes to commit soon if he decides he would rather play lacrosse than his other sport.

Good luck.

The only reason to reclassify would be to reset his year group because of losing a year. Even if he has the ability to play at a top school, if the public lists are correct there are probably only 2-3 school that are full or close to be being full at his position.

The only thing he/we would be committing to is if the right school came along he would commit to doing a PG year somewhere so he would continue with his 2017 group, but as far as "recruiting" is concerned the schools would consider him to be a 2018.

I am not wild about the idea, but we'll be meeting with his coaches to discuss.

Not really true at all. Out of the 9 turtles who are D1 commits, maybe 2 of them are held back.

We were at a tourney in Denver where a player on the 3D 2017 committed as a 2016 a week or so later. Hear he is a rising Junior. Apparently you can just claim anything.

Turtles are at 10 committed,

3 Hopkins
1 UNC
1 Fairfield
2 Harvard
1 Bucknell
1 Duke
1 Maryland

Whatever happened to the 2017 fl$. The best travel team out there

Not hearing anythin about them or the kids. Guess no one is committing to the next level? 1

Plus the player who committed to Virginia THEN left the Turtles and the 91 Defenseman who played for the Turtles and is now commited to the Process at Penn.

One just committed last week, moron.

Just one?

Turtles are at 10 committed,

3 Hopkins
1 UNC
1 Fairfield
2 Harvard
1 Bucknell
1 Duke
1 Maryland

Big turnout for Maverick Showtime today. I noticed most of the 2017 verbals are participating in this camp, where most skipped Jake Reed.

What's the rationale of going to a showcase if you are already committed?

Most cases you were invited and paid up before the commit. Its always good to show the coach on the sideline that he made the right selection. Just because someone is committed doesn't mean you take your foot off the gas. Need to get better every day and what better opportunity to play against high level talent than Maverick? Not about $$$ at this point...basically you are "all in" and might as well keep going.