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Re: College, Coaches, Recruitment : 2010-2011
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter actually had a friend that verbally committed to a school in junior year (great school, but not the dream school). Meanwhile, her dream school was perfect in every way, except for the relationship with the coach.

Before NLIs were signed, her friend's dream school had a new coach, who was previously recruiting her at another school. She had the opportunity to change her mind, as now the dream school was perfect in every way, but felt she needed to do the honorable thing and keep her verbal committment to the "great" but not dream school.

How did it work out??? Not sure ... just a freshman and lax season hasnt started yet, so time will tell. Every situation and circumstance is different, and every person handles things in their life differently. I always say things happen for a reason.
As we have said previously on our Back of the Net sister site for soccer, a student-athlete should not be choosing their college or university based on a relationship with the head coach. Remember that the head coaching (and any coaching or teaching) role is a job first and foremost. There is no guarantee that the staff you see on board with your program today will be there four years from now, much less four months from now.

School selection should be done based on academic fit first followed by other environmental considerations. It is actually a shame that a young person chose a runner-up school due to a sense of loyalty to a coach. Hopefully, this decision turns out to be positive for the student-athlete in the longer run.

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Should we be doing anything as parents before a showcase aside from contacting coaches to help our son's chances at this next event in June? He is currently a junior and had not locked into a single school as yet.

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Should we be doing anything as parents before a showcase aside from contacting coaches to help our son's chances at this next event in June? He is currently a junior and had not locked into a single school as yet.
First, be sure that you have both "Top Ten Academics" and "Top Ten Athletics" lists in place to help narrow your focus. As a second half junior, now is also the time to start to validate GPA, Board Scores, and desired majors against the schools in both lists. You should have three stretch schools, four on-par schools, and three "lock" schools in each list.

Second, be sure that you (your son) has contacted coaches of interest to be on their radar. If there are specific showcases/tournaments being attended by your favored coaches, see if you can attend those events with your team or as a guest player.

Third, April is the perfect time to schedule campus visits to both experience the schools and meet the atheltic team staff. It is worth your time to make those visits now to help narrow your search and make the application process come senior year a bit easier to navigate.

Start with these three action items and let us know how you progress.

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I have at least 2 years before we need to get serious. This will be our first child entering college.
I have read all the related posts on this forum, listened to friends who have older kids going through the process now and spoken to other friends who currently have kids playing for D1 and D2 teams.
I am attempting to educate myself on this complex topic, now and then continue to learn as we go.
Does anyone have any suggestions on what publications/books/etc can I read now on this topic.
Thank you for your time.

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Originally Posted by Bbddll
I have at least 2 years before we need to get serious. This will be our first child entering college.
I have read all the related posts on this forum, listened to friends who have older kids going through the process now and spoken to other friends who currently have kids playing for D1 and D2 teams.
I am attempting to educate myself on this complex topic, now and then continue to learn as we go.
Does anyone have any suggestions on what publications/books/etc can I read now on this topic.
Thank you for your time.
One of the very best resources to use at the start of your journey will be the NCAA College-Bound Student Athlete Guide. This useful 24-page document will introduce you to the topics of eligibility, regulations per NCAA Division on coaching contact, course cores and grades/board scores, and a host of other topics.

NCAA College-Bound Student Athlete Guide

Please feel free to ask any questions you have about lacrosse recruitment and the NCAA process you might have after reading through these guidelines.

One of the first proactive steps that you can take along with your child is the development of a lacrosse profile which emphasizes academics, awards, clubs/activities, voluteerism, jobs, athletics, and personal contact information. Organizing this information will help you take your first step on the college preparation track.

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How to Construct Your Profile

Some aspects you might want to have included in your profiles and resumes when applying for college or showcasing :

In the header at the top of the page, include the player's name, uniform number, address, GPA/SAT/ACT scores, height, weight, birthdate, telephone contact numbers and e-mail addresses. Think about having an e-mail address dedicated to lacrosse recruiting so that e-mails are centralized and responses are tracked. Also, include a profile picture that allows a coach to identify you from 30 yards away on the field. A head shot is valuable; an action shot on the profile that is 10 pixels square on a printed page does not help anyone.

Include some information about your athletics, including High School, and academics (AP, Awards and such). Include important activities and if space exists, some information about upcoming appearances (tournaments) or references. Make sure that the profile fits on one single printed page.

How to Begin Identifying Potential Target Universities and Colleges

Start by constructing two lists : the first list is a purely academic list of schools that have your son/daughter's majors/interests. The list should contain about ten to twelve schools broken into three buckets : stretch schools (100-200 points above your current SAT scores), on-par schools (those that match your GPA or SAT/ACT scores), and safety schools (those which are an obvious acceptance where you would be in the top quartile of the student body). When you do this academic listing, think to yourself "suppose I could never play lacrosse again - where would I go?" (CollegeBoard.Com is a great resource for these types of searches.)

Construct a second list of the ten lacrosse programs that would interest your child. Be sure to consider all NCAA divisions as the commitment level will vary greatly. Construct this list without any notion of money/scholarships, but give thought to whether your son/daughter would be a bench-sitter or an active player. For some families, a Division III opportunity with a starting role is worth much more than a Division I limited action role until the junior year.

You will have at most 20 schools at this point. Now, figure our where the overlaps might are between the two lists. This overlap list might have between five and eight schools - which is your initial target market!

It is ideal if you already have these lists, but working on these during your junior year Winter Recess or Easter break is critical. Those are the High School vacation periods where you really need to start your campus tours. Try to visit campuses while student activity is active - you get a much better sense of the campus "vibe". Take the tours, eat a meal at the campus, and speak with students.

Importantly, start e-mailing the head coach and assistant coach at each school. Send a copy of your profile along with your e-mail to the coaching staff. Express your interest in their schools and do not hesitate to show some enthusiasm. Fill out any on-line recruitment material. Schedule a visit with the coach to see the athletic facilities.

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A great start for me, thank you very much for all your insight....

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A great start for me, thank you very much for all your insight....
You are very welcome and we hope that you find the advice and "blueprint" useful. Please feel free to ask any questions needed here on the BOTC Lacrosse College Board.

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Reminder to all of our BOTC Parents, Players, and Visitors : Our College Forum thread on BOTC is designed to answer your college lacrosse recruiting questions in addition to general academic issues. Have a question or concern? Are you just unsure of the college admissions process? Feel free to ask your questions on the BOTC College Forum.

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The Long Island Metropolitan Lacrosse Foundation (www.limetrolax.org) offers a scholarship program that was established in 2010 to recognize outstanding high school lacrosse players in the Long Island-Metropolitan area.

The 2010 "All Around Player of the Year" scholarship winners were Drew Belinsky from Manhasset and Max Meyer from Half Hollow Hills.

This year (2011) a total of six scholarships will be awarded to male and female players from Nassau (Section VII), Suffolk (Section XI) and New York City (PSAL). Each reciipient will receive $1,000 along with a plaque in their honor.

In evaluating candidates, the LIMLF applies the following criteria:
  • Must Be All-County or ALL-NYC;
  • Must Have an Outstanding Grade Point Average;
  • Must Have a Strong Community Service Background; and
  • Must Be in Good Standing in both the School and the Community.
If you would like more information regarding LIMLF's Scholarship Program, please contact the Chair of the program, Al Hodish, at alhodish@aol.com.


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AthleticBusiness.com has reported that a new law takes effect in Connecticut that will require colleges to disclose exactly what student-athletes are agreeing to when they accept an athletic scholarship.

"The law, which passed the Connecticut House by a 140-to-3 vote and was unanimously approved in the Senate, seeks to keep recruits informed that scholarships are only good for one year and are subject to renewal at the discretion of the school. It also mandates full disclosure of how sports-related medical expenses are covered and what out-of-pocket expenses a student-athlete can expect to pay. Schools must post such details online."

The web site also notes that "similar legislation ... takes full effect next year in California."

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Supporting stories on the atheltic disclosure ruling in Connecticut.

Lax Buzz Coverage - Recruiters Are Fueling Myths

Athletic Business Newswire Report

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NCAA Division I Legislative Council Rejects Earlier Recruiting Phone Contact

The Division I Legislative Council during its conference call Thursday narrowly defeated a proposal that would have allowed earlier phone contact with recruits in sports other than football and men’s basketball.

The Council’s action averts an override vote on the matter unless the Division I Board of Directors acts differently at its Aug. 11 meeting.

The Legislative Council in April adopted legislation (Proposal No. 2010-30) that would have allowed schools:

•One telephone call per month to a prospect (or the prospect’s relatives or legal guardians) on or after June 15 at the end of the prospect’s sophomore year in high school through July 31 after the prospect’s junior year;
•Two telephone calls per week beginning Aug. 1 before the prospect’s senior year in high school; and
•One telephone call per week to a two-year or four-year college prospect (or the prospect’s relatives or legal guardians).

The legislation is what currently is in place for men’s basketball, and proponents of Proposal No. 2010-30 liked the idea of uniform contact rules for other sports. After it was adopted, though, 106 schools submitted override requests by the June 27 deadline, which not only required the Legislative Council to revisit the proposal (it takes 30 override requests to prompt that action), but that total also exceeded the 100 requests necessary to suspend the legislation.

Of the 29 conferences present and voting on Thursday’s call, 14 retained support and 15 voted to defeat the proposal. Because of the Council’s weighted-vote structure for conferences, the actual tally was 24.0 in support and 24.3 to defeat, meaning the legislation previously adopted is now rescinded.

The Board of Directors will review the action Aug. 11 and does have the authority to resurrect the proposal. If the presidents do so, that would require a membership override vote later this year.

The discussion on Thursday’s conference call reflected the ongoing debate of earlier access and the burdens placed on the compliance community to monitor phone calls and electronic communication. Some conference representatives who voted to support the legislation in April said they had several individual league members subsequently request an override.

Coincidentally, the Division I Recruiting and Athletics Personnel Issues Cabinet in July proposed legislation to eliminate limits on the number and frequency of telephone calls to prospects (though it would not change the permissible date on which institutions may begin calling prospects or who makes the calls).

The cabinet also proposed allowing all forms of electronic correspondence (such as email and texts) to be sent to recruits starting at the same time that phone contact is allowed in a given sport.

Both of those proposals – neither of which would affect the time at which contact could begin to be made with recruits, but both of which affect the methods of the contact – will be acted upon during the 2011-12 legislative cycle.

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Very interesting article about college sports in general posted on Back of the Net. Anyone with lacrosse views?

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Financial troubles across the United States with the increasingly soft economy, a 500-point Dow Jones Industrial average drop impacting investments, and shrinking family bank accounts have helped to increase the focus on the elusive student-athlete scholarship to help fund a four-year college education. Decreasing tax rolls, increasing social program costs, and decreased federal funding have state governments themselves significantly cutting subsidies to various state university systems. In parallel, private universities are struggling to maintain endowments while supporting both their quality of education and quantity of students capable of paying the $40,000 per year bill.

California has been among the hardest hit states with athletic programs being impacted at record rates over the last eighteen months. These articles provide a sampling of the cost-cutting impacting family plans for financing a collegiate education. As you can see, these cuts are now reaching the point of saving $50,000 per fiscal year.Will this trend continue in full force to the SUNY schools and the East Coast/Region One Universities? This was discussed as early as November 2009 in the New [lacrosse] Times.

This is a vulnerable time for non-revenue generating sports programs as more universities are closely examining the full cost of operating a Division I or Division II sports program. Remember, this is not just the cost of scholarships which are factored into the overall university discount rate, but also salaries, benefits, and facilities to coaches and support staff.

Colleges across the region, particularly four-year institutions, are struggling to maintain academic standards while also filling freshman classes with enough "paying students" to carry university expenses. When student revenues, state funding, or endowments can no longer cover the bills, programs start getting cut. Athletic scholarships are particularly vulnerable in this situation. Further, when local four-year programs are being undermined by community colleges with a value proposition of saving two years of tuition, someone is going to get squeezed financially.

There are some who would point to the elimination of the Hofstra University Division I football program as the first shoe to drop in our competitive regional market where both private and public universities are forced to make the difficult decisions between sustaining academic growth and investment in athletic programs. In Hofstra's case, academics remain solid while diverting funds to the now celebrated Medical School - however, the athletic scholarship count has radically dropped.

Remember that the game is no longer just a question of how many scholarship positions are funded. Families now find themselves needing to question much more than just whether a program is fully funded. Now, questions about the overall health of all the athletic programs have never been more important.

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With the start of the new academic year, BOTC will be closing this 2010/2011 discussion thread covering recruitment and open a new discussion for the Class of 2012.

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