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do you know what the story is with the one multi-year (2015/2016) team?

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there's 104 players listed on the four 2016 rosters, they have to stop at some point!

or at least make a fifth team

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anyone know what a head coach gets paid?

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They dont ! Unfortunate but we just found out 2017 teams have mom's coaching so that say's it all... free %100 gaurenteed full time playing for there daughters ! and from what we see they need it...

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anyone know what a head coach gets paid?

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I can't imagine that many kids were turned away, especially when you consider that they have almost 750 players listed on the rosters (not including the "alternate" group)

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wake up! there are parents coaching at virtually every age group

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So if they arent paying the coaches, why don't they make additional teams instead of carrying 26?

ALSO, if they don't pay the coaches, Where does all the money go? Do all the Directors get paid if so that covers a bunch of the coaches.

They made $50,000 just on tryout fees!

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All these clubs need capital to pre register all the teams for all summer tourneys do that math times 30 teams and I bet its more than 50,000.00

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I have nothing against the YJ, but what gets me is when everyone points out how many college commitments the girls have as compared to other programs. Of course they do when they have so many players. Other clubs have just one or two teams.

Wouldn't most of the registration fees for the tournaments come from the club tuition? Parents pay for each tournament separately.

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The question is then are they qualified parent/coaches with a lacrosse background? or just a parent who learned the sport because her daughter or daughters plays the game?? I have to agree on original post . Most parents who do coach do it for the wrong reasons ,because no one can coach there own kid so they gun for the next available opening to get that position. Yes its common everywhere , but as a parent you have to ask yourself at the younger age is it worth the money of not having a qualified coach especially in this organization ?? If i am correct i would say that if its who i think it is on RED? She is not qualified and go elsewhere !!
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I have nothing against the YJ, but what gets me is when everyone points out how many college commitments the girls have as compared to other programs. Of course they do when they have so many players. Other clubs have just one or two teams.

Wouldn't most of the registration fees for the tournaments come from the club tuition? Parents pay for each tournament separately.

You can't down play the success rate the YJ when it comes to getting kids in colleges. It is not because of the amount of kids playing. It is because the kids can actually play and Carol Rose and the YJ brand is well respected. Look at the kids at colleges right now,Some of the best kids from NorthWestern (National Champs) are from the YJ's. Coaches know if a kid plays on one of the top YJ teams they have been tournament tested! That means they have played with and against the best competition in the country. Choosing a student athlete especially one who is scholorshiped is critical to a program. Knowing that a player has played at a certain level reduces the risk of investing in that player, that and the work ethic and talent each player brings is why there are so many YJ's getting big time Div 1 offers!

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If you think the coaches do not get paid then you are out of your mind!

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I have nothing against the YJ, but what gets me is when everyone points out how many college commitments the girls have as compared to other programs. Of course they do when they have so many players. Other clubs have just one or two teams.

Wouldn't most of the registration fees for the tournaments come from the club tuition? Parents pay for each tournament separately.

Then just compare the first 2 teams. You will find there is no comparison. I am not saying that if you play for another club you won't play at a great college, but at this point you have a better chance (especially if you are NOT a superstar) with the YJ's!

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What's with the YJ obsession....My daughter plays, she likes it, I like it. Your daughter doesn't so move on.

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The question is then are they qualified parent/coaches with a lacrosse background? or just a parent who learned the sport because her daughter or daughters plays the game?? I have to agree on original post . Most parents who do coach do it for the wrong reasons ,because no one can coach there own kid so they gun for the next available opening to get that position. Yes its common everywhere , but as a parent you have to ask yourself at the younger age is it worth the money of not having a qualified coach especially in this organization ?? If i am correct i would say that if its who i think it is on RED? She is not qualified and go elsewhere !!
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wake up! there are parents coaching at virtually every age group


I am done with teams with parents as the coach. Avoid this at all costs. There may be a good one out there with fair objectives, but I've yet to see it with three kids heavily into multiple sports. We are now playing for a travel lacrosse team with no parent, thank god. Parents are fine for town level, and even there it is a joke to see what they pull.

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But as long as parents accept what the clubs have to offer as a coach they will continue to pull the parent coach act after they take your money ! To much hype , to much marketing , amazing what a yellow jacket sweat shirt and sweat pants can officially turn any parent into a qualified coach.

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The question is then are they qualified parent/coaches with a lacrosse background? or just a parent who learned the sport because her daughter or daughters plays the game?? I have to agree on original post . Most parents who do coach do it for the wrong reasons ,because no one can coach there own kid so they gun for the next available opening to get that position. Yes its common everywhere , but as a parent you have to ask yourself at the younger age is it worth the money of not having a qualified coach especially in this organization ?? If i am correct i would say that if its who i think it is on RED? She is not qualified and go elsewhere !!
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wake up! there are parents coaching at virtually every age group


I am done with teams with parents as the coach. Avoid this at all costs. There may be a good one out there with fair objectives, but I've yet to see it with three kids heavily into multiple sports. We are now playing for a travel lacrosse team with no parent, thank god. Parents are fine for town level, and even there it is a joke to see what they pull.

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The question is then are they qualified parent/coaches with a lacrosse background? or just a parent who learned the sport because her daughter or daughters plays the game?? I have to agree on original post . Most parents who do coach do it for the wrong reasons ,because no one can coach there own kid so they gun for the next available opening to get that position. Yes its common everywhere , but as a parent you have to ask yourself at the younger age is it worth the money of not having a qualified coach especially in this organization ?? If i am correct i would say that if its who i think it is on RED? She is not qualified and go elsewhere !!
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wake up! there are parents coaching at virtually every age group


I am done with teams with parents as the coach. Avoid this at all costs. There may be a good one out there with fair objectives, but I've yet to see it with three kids heavily into multiple sports. We are now playing for a travel lacrosse team with no parent, thank god. Parents are fine for town level, and even there it is a joke to see what they pull.


Amen! the 2015 blue has the same problme.

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Best Club team in the Country!! Not even close! If you think otherwise your crazy and lying to yourself

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So let me be the first to ask, If a team beats the blue team, that we all know is really a gold teams, it the same as beating the real blue team, or does it come with an excuse that there not a real blue team. I mean this mostly in the 2015 age group.

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Why are you so angry about 2015 Blue? The team has never lost a game and they are widely recognized as the best in the country. Who cares if a parent is coaching? If your daughter is on the team but can't handle the very limited minutes that the coach feels she deserves, how 'bout u talk to the coach or better yet, see yourself to another club team? Calling him out here accomplishes nothing.


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The question is then are they qualified parent/coaches with a lacrosse background? or just a parent who learned the sport because her daughter or daughters plays the game?? I have to agree on original post . Most parents who do coach do it for the wrong reasons ,because no one can coach there own kid so they gun for the next available opening to get that position. Yes its common everywhere , but as a parent you have to ask yourself at the younger age is it worth the money of not having a qualified coach especially in this organization ?? If i am correct i would say that if its who i think it is on RED? She is not qualified and go elsewhere !!
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wake up! there are parents coaching at virtually every age group


I am done with teams with parents as the coach. Avoid this at all costs. There may be a good one out there with fair objectives, but I've yet to see it with three kids heavily into multiple sports. We are now playing for a travel lacrosse team with no parent, thank god. Parents are fine for town level, and even there it is a joke to see what they pull.


Amen! the 2015 blue has the same problme.



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That $50,000+ for tryout fees is pocket change, by the first week in January 750 players have to pay their $600 team fee - that's $450,000! What do you think is made when hosting a tournament? 32 teams per age group, 8 age groups = 256 teams @ $2,000 per team = $512,000! What do you think it cost to get fields, ref's, a cheap liability policy and make a schedule? So one years tryout, roster payment and a tournament puts income over a million dollars, then you can add in all the clinics and camps. How about consulting fees? Do you think that a college program in a hurry to get a D1 team up to speed might want to pay a consulting fee to yj and have some players steered in their direction? It goes on in AAU basketball all the time, what makes you think it doesn't happen in lax?

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That $50,000+ for tryout fees is pocket change, by the first week in January 750 players have to pay their $600 team fee - that's $450,000! What do you think is made when hosting a tournament? 32 teams per age group, 8 age groups = 256 teams @ $2,000 per team = $512,000! What do you think it cost to get fields, ref's, a cheap liability policy and make a schedule? So one years tryout, roster payment and a tournament puts income over a million dollars, then you can add in all the clinics and camps. How about consulting fees? Do you think that a college program in a hurry to get a D1 team up to speed might want to pay a consulting fee to yj and have some players steered in their direction? It goes on in AAU basketball all the time, what makes you think it doesn't happen in lax?


Seriously is it your business to count the YJ money? It's a business and a successful one. HOw many long Island businesses can boast such growth. Go count your own money!

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That $50,000+ for tryout fees is pocket change, by the first week in January 750 players have to pay their $600 team fee - that's $450,000! What do you think is made when hosting a tournament? 32 teams per age group, 8 age groups = 256 teams @ $2,000 per team = $512,000! What do you think it cost to get fields, ref's, a cheap liability policy and make a schedule? So one years tryout, roster payment and a tournament puts income over a million dollars, then you can add in all the clinics and camps. How about consulting fees? Do you think that a college program in a hurry to get a D1 team up to speed might want to pay a consulting fee to yj and have some players steered in their direction? It goes on in AAU basketball all the time, what makes you think it doesn't happen in lax?


Oh and can you name that ficticious tournament that attracts 256 teams?

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any mark up on all that logo wear? lol

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On the clinic? it is $200 per hour session right? So if i do stick, shoot and defense its $600 for the four weeks? I was confused, I thought we got all the groups for $200. That is $50 / hour.

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Does anyone know about the 2017 blue teams? Looks like they dropped some of the girls and put them on a second team. They also moved up some gold players I think? Does YJ normally have two blue teams like and A or a B?

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Hi all,
New to YJ - daughter made gold 2018 team (6th gr)
There is so much info on this thread but what i am curious about is how difficult is it to move from gold to blue in upcoming years. thanks!

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New to YJ - daughter made gold 2018 team (6th gr)
There is so much info on this thread but what i am curious about is how difficult is it to move from gold to blue in upcoming years. thanks!

There is plenty of movement from year to year. It will all depend on your daughters talent and work ethic. If she is great she will be noticed and moved.

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On the clinic? it is $200 per hour session right? So if i do stick, shoot and defense its $600 for the four weeks? I was confused, I thought we got all the groups for $200. That is $50 / hour.


That's cheap the going rate is 75.00 -125.00 per hour for private lessons

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New to YJ - daughter made gold 2018 team (6th gr)
There is so much info on this thread but what i am curious about is how difficult is it to move from gold to blue in upcoming years. thanks!


Hard to say now that the whole color and teams is totally restructured. Blue used to be blue, gold used to be gold, there used to be one color per age group. Don't know what any of it means anymore. Congrats anyway and good luck.

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Thank you all for the info!
We are looking forward to the YJ experience

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On the clinic? it is $200 per hour session right? So if i do stick, shoot and defense its $600 for the four weeks? I was confused, I thought we got all the groups for $200. That is $50 / hour.


That's cheap the going rate is 75.00 -125.00 per hour for private lessons


I would put the range for private lessons at more like $40 to $150. However, the emphasis should be on the word PRIVATE.

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On the clinic? it is $200 per hour session right? So if i do stick, shoot and defense its $600 for the four weeks? I was confused, I thought we got all the groups for $200. That is $50 / hour.


That's cheap the going rate is 75.00 -125.00 per hour for private lessons


I would put the range for private lessons at more like $40 to $150. However, the emphasis should be on the word PRIVATE.


Hmmm can your $40.00 trainer hold a stick.

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On the clinic? it is $200 per hour session right? So if i do stick, shoot and defense its $600 for the four weeks? I was confused, I thought we got all the groups for $200. That is $50 / hour.


It is $200 for 4 sessions. The defense session is excellent.

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PRIVATE is the key word, I'm sure that there will be at least 30 kids per session

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Anybody know of any groups that had to turn away a lot of kids? I heard numbers were up this year at tryouts



3 2020 teams that has to be a first.

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Anybody know of any groups that had to turn away a lot of kids? I heard numbers were up this year at tryouts



3 2020 teams that has to be a first.


Why even bother having a 2020 team?? Leave the girls at this age in the hornet development program. I can see a 2019 team for this year, where the girls will play up one year. BTW, The first age group for 2012 summer tournaments is 6th grade, that is 2018. There is a huge physical difference at this age, it is far different than an 8th grader playing up 2 years. If you ask me it is dangerous and irresposible to do this. They are still young and have plenty of time to develope, why push it?

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Business is good and the YJ brand has never been stronger. People want the YJ name and not hornets and thats why the 2020 group has 3 teams. Next year Hornets will probably be called Jr YJ's and parents will start them in 1st grade!

The 2020's will probably be on the hook with clinics and camps for $30,000, $40,000 dare I say $50,000+??? NINE years of hefty payouts. At fourth grade do you even know if lacrosse is even going to stick with your daughter?

Stay will club and then start looking around as they approach High School. At least youi will know if the have the talent and the drive to justify the CASH, otherwise, put the $50,000 in a 529 plan!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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3 2020 teams that has to be a first.


Why even bother having a 2020 team?? Leave the girls at this age in the hornet development program. I can see a 2019 team for this year, where the girls will play up one year. BTW, The first age group for 2012 summer tournaments is 6th grade, that is 2018. There is a huge physical difference at this age, it is far different than an 8th grader playing up 2 years. If you ask me it is dangerous and irresposible to do this. They are still young and have plenty of time to develope, why push it?


They can have 2020 teams but they should play more local tournaments like Liberty does and a couple of the other programs. They don't need the full out of sale tournament schedule like the big girls have.

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3 to 4 years ago it was $200 for 6 session

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