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First of all, the Philadelphia Metro area is the Hottest recruiting hot bed in the country. 2016 Class has 51 Div 1 commitments already. 51! Island isn't even close. With Haverford, Episcopal, Germantown, Malvern Prep, Lasalle,Conestoga, Radnor, all with in miles of each other, there is nowhere in the country with this amount of talent in such a small area. I would be that between Malvern and Haverford alone there are 40 commits between 2017 -2015. And yes there are some reclassified kids so it must be working. An your "on age beast" aint [lacrosse] down here. We'd whoop his [lacrosse].


Go feed your 17 yo sophomore some more scrapple... He ain't whoopin nothing. Except maybe your [lacrosse] when he figures out you held him back for sports dumba--. Hurry up, go get the phone it might be Petro... NOT.


Fact is, this Summer U15 in COLORADO is the closest to gather who is held back and who isn't. If you GO to play at the U15 than you ARE ON AGE (you DO need proof of age). If you don't go AND your teammates goes (or players from your team align with someone else) than its a obvious your older.


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He meant give your best guess or estimate.....
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My guess is 15 % are held back at the big LI school lax programs

Probably 5-10% additional reclasifed at the catholic and privates.



Chaminade freshman group has at least 5 held back players - STA freshman has at least 3.



Interesting... and sad

think it is likely the same for Friends too?

What about the Publics like GC, WM, Pequa, Farm, the Smithtowns, WI, and Manhassett? Probably less?


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WM has none that I am aware of...

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It is hard to do in public, either left back in first grade or not, almost impossible to reclass in 8th unless you go private.

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He meant give your best guess or estimate.....
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My guess is 15 % are held back at the big LI school lax programs

Probably 5-10% additional reclasifed at the catholic and privates.


Chaminade freshman group has at least 5 held back players - STA freshman has at least 3.


Don't know about 5....but can say 1 from GC for sure who took a year at Friends before starting Chaminade. As a graduate of the school I am disappointed. I like to see the teams do well as much as anyone else....but this is cheating and it is contrary to what the school is about. My $.02

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The LI Catholics won't reclass, but the independent privates will for $30k. So, go wherever to 8th grade, repeat 8th grade at Green Vale, Buckley, Friends, Portledge, etc., then enter 9th grade a year older at the school of your choice.

Don't tsk tsk the high school. They have no reason to deny admission because of a 1 year difference.


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He meant give your best guess or estimate.....
Simple question

My guess is 15 % are held back at the big LI school lax programs

Probably 5-10% additional reclasifed at the catholic and privates.


Chaminade freshman group has at least 5 held back players - STA freshman has at least 3.


Don't know about 5....but can say 1 from GC for sure who took a year at Friends before starting Chaminade. As a graduate of the school I am disappointed. I like to see the teams do well as much as anyone else....but this is cheating and it is contrary to what the school is about. My $.02


I agree cheating has to stop. Check the freshman FLYER attack & defense. DOB's??

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Hey Mr. Resentment. We love guys like you, you always are the ones punching the drywall at the end. LOL. You are humorous. "my on age beast" "We'll never stop" "my kid has confidence" my, my , my, I , I, I. Give me an L, give me an O, give me an S, i think you get it.


L.O.S....."S" !! As in a complete "loss" for words to describe the pathetic low return gaming that is employed in the greater belt area. (But allow me to try! )

A larger percentage of the "keep up with the cheating at lax Jonses" will fail in their pursuit to gain a great advantage in recruitment in the holdback attempt process. What do you all do then? Spend another year in 13th grade at 40-50k and try again?

You see; kids like ours on Long Island make their way without the hold back process. Plain and simple and statistically verifiable. This "process" was initiated in other sports but the greater well off lax parent community saw that their little boys couldn't match up with the best of the tristate area. Thus the dive into the holdback system with great hopes in mind.

I feel somewhat sorry for you all where you're spending or have spent so much private school dollars and have yet to realize that return you had so feverishly prayed for.

What should I do with all of the possible PG and private school money that I saved when my just turned 15 yo freshman in public school was committed ast fall to a top 8 seeded team in the current ncaa D1 tourney?

Did he achieve that with mommy and daddy getting on their knees and servicing the private school coach of their choice and filling the schools coffers with yet more coin?

No. He did it the old fashioned way. Hard work. Dedication. Discipline. Self confidence. And with those; he gained self respect and that of his peers.

If your 2017 or older kid doesn't have these concepts drilled into the fabric of his life by now; he never will. And that makes you a failure as a parent.

no amount of PG holdback cheating money can ever be worth more than those values.

Invest wisely, my friends. Paving the road for your kid to have an easy path does not always yield the returns that the above principles will.

Now....back to your spelling bee cheer. Repeat it aloud as you look in the mirror tomorrow morning.



check the rosters of the quarterfinal teams. start with duke. Their starting mid/att are all hold backs or pg. ND leading scorer is a PG. Hopkins, well i don't even need to look.

Imagine the money your true 2017 could have gotten if you reclassed him?


Money wasn't, isn't and won't be a problem! :-)

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"A top 8 seeded team"???? Those 8 go from duke, to ivy to Albany and Maryland etc. My point is that not all schools are considered the same caliper. If I'm not mistaken most all, if not all, freshman commits are from schools other then Ivy's and duke. Just saying you can brag all you want about your so sons commitment to Albany. Doesn't impress me.

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Hey Mr. Resentment. We love guys like you, you always are the ones punching the drywall at the end. LOL. You are humorous. "my on age beast" "We'll never stop" "my kid has confidence" my, my , my, I , I, I. Give me an L, give me an O, give me an S, i think you get it.


L.O.S....."S" !! As in a complete "loss" for words to describe the pathetic low return gaming that is employed in the greater belt area. (But allow me to try! )

A larger percentage of the "keep up with the cheating at lax Jonses" will fail in their pursuit to gain a great advantage in recruitment in the holdback attempt process. What do you all do then? Spend another year in 13th grade at 40-50k and try again?

You see; kids like ours on Long Island make their way without the hold back process. Plain and simple and statistically verifiable. This "process" was initiated in other sports but the greater well off lax parent community saw that their little boys couldn't match up with the best of the tristate area. Thus the dive into the holdback system with great hopes in mind.

I feel somewhat sorry for you all where you're spending or have spent so much private school dollars and have yet to realize that return you had so feverishly prayed for.

What should I do with all of the possible PG and private school money that I saved when my just turned 15 yo freshman in public school was committed ast fall to a top 8 seeded team in the current ncaa D1 tourney?

Did he achieve that with mommy and daddy getting on their knees and servicing the private school coach of their choice and filling the schools coffers with yet more coin?

No. He did it the old fashioned way. Hard work. Dedication. Discipline. Self confidence. And with those; he gained self respect and that of his peers.

If your 2017 or older kid doesn't have these concepts drilled into the fabric of his life by now; he never will. And that makes you a failure as a parent.

no amount of PG holdback cheating money can ever be worth more than those values.

Invest wisely, my friends. Paving the road for your kid to have an easy path does not always yield the returns that the above principles will.

Now....back to your spelling bee cheer. Repeat it aloud as you look in the mirror tomorrow morning.



check the rosters of the quarterfinal teams. start with duke. Their starting mid/att are all hold backs or pg. ND leading scorer is a PG. Hopkins, well i don't even need to look.

Imagine the money your true 2017 could have gotten if you reclassed him?


Money wasn't, isn't and won't be a problem! :-)

Sorry.



"A top 8 seeded team"???? Those 8 go from duke, to ivy to Albany and Maryland etc. My point is that not all schools are considered the same caliper. If I'm not mistaken most all, if not all, freshman commits are from schools other then Ivy's and duke. Just saying you can brag all you want about your so sons commitment to Albany. Doesn't impress me.


Please do your homework and don't just type incorrect info. The 2017 early commits are from pretty "decent" schools, that includes an Ivy. The Albany comment seems like a SHOT that these kids aren't committing to excellent academic schools very early.

Schools like UVA, PENN, Hopkins, Bucknell, Air Force, Mich, UNC & Georgetown. Very impressive list of awesome schools. Congrats to all of those boys.

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He meant give your best guess or estimate.....
Simple question

My guess is 15 % are held back at the big LI school lax programs

Probably 5-10% additional reclasifed at the catholic and privates.


Chaminade freshman group has at least 5 held back players - STA freshman has at least 3.


Don't know about 5....but can say 1 from GC for sure who took a year at Friends before starting Chaminade. As a graduate of the school I am disappointed. I like to see the teams do well as much as anyone else....but this is cheating and it is contrary to what the school is about. My $.02



I, too, am a Chaminade alum and I am disappointed with my fellow Chaminade's comment. It's not my business nor yours or anyone else's for that matter. Who does what with their children. There is no law being broken so please stop whining like a girl and find something better to do.

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Hey Mr. Resentment. We love guys like you, you always are the ones punching the drywall at the end. LOL. You are humorous. "my on age beast" "We'll never stop" "my kid has confidence" my, my , my, I , I, I. Give me an L, give me an O, give me an S, i think you get it.


L.O.S....."S" !! As in a complete "loss" for words to describe the pathetic low return gaming that is employed in the greater belt area. (But allow me to try! )

A larger percentage of the "keep up with the cheating at lax Jonses" will fail in their pursuit to gain a great advantage in recruitment in the holdback attempt process. What do you all do then? Spend another year in 13th grade at 40-50k and try again?

You see; kids like ours on Long Island make their way without the hold back process. Plain and simple and statistically verifiable. This "process" was initiated in other sports but the greater well off lax parent community saw that their little boys couldn't match up with the best of the tristate area. Thus the dive into the holdback system with great hopes in mind.

I feel somewhat sorry for you all where you're spending or have spent so much private school dollars and have yet to realize that return you had so feverishly prayed for.

What should I do with all of the possible PG and private school money that I saved when my just turned 15 yo freshman in public school was committed ast fall to a top 8 seeded team in the current ncaa D1 tourney?

Did he achieve that with mommy and daddy getting on their knees and servicing the private school coach of their choice and filling the schools coffers with yet more coin?

No. He did it the old fashioned way. Hard work. Dedication. Discipline. Self confidence. And with those; he gained self respect and that of his peers.

If your 2017 or older kid doesn't have these concepts drilled into the fabric of his life by now; he never will. And that makes you a failure as a parent.

no amount of PG holdback cheating money can ever be worth more than those values.

Invest wisely, my friends. Paving the road for your kid to have an easy path does not always yield the returns that the above principles will.

Now....back to your spelling bee cheer. Repeat it aloud as you look in the mirror tomorrow morning.



check the rosters of the quarterfinal teams. start with duke. Their starting mid/att are all hold backs or pg. ND leading scorer is a PG. Hopkins, well i don't even need to look.

Imagine the money your true 2017 could have gotten if you reclassed him?


Money wasn't, isn't and won't be a problem! :-)

Sorry.



"A top 8 seeded team"???? Those 8 go from duke, to ivy to Albany and Maryland etc. My point is that not all schools are considered the same caliper. If I'm not mistaken most all, if not all, freshman commits are from schools other then Ivy's and duke. Just saying you can brag all you want about your so sons commitment to Albany. Doesn't impress me.


Please do your homework and don't just type incorrect info. The 2017 early commits are from pretty "decent" schools, that includes an Ivy. The Albany comment seems like a SHOT that these kids aren't committing to excellent academic schools very early.

Schools like UVA, PENN, Hopkins, Bucknell, Air Force, Mich, UNC & Georgetown. Very impressive list of awesome schools. Congrats to all of those boys.



Still not impressed.

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"A top 8 seeded team"???? Those 8 go from duke, to ivy to Albany and Maryland etc. My point is that not all schools are considered the same caliper. If I'm not mistaken most all, if not all, freshman commits are from schools other then Ivy's and duke. Just saying you can brag all you want about your so sons commitment to Albany. Doesn't impress me. [/quote]

Please do your homework and don't just type incorrect info. The 2017 early commits are from pretty "decent" schools, that includes an Ivy. The Albany comment seems like a SHOT that these kids aren't committing to excellent academic schools very early.

Schools like UVA, PENN, Hopkins, Bucknell, Air Force, Mich, UNC & Georgetown. Very impressive list of awesome schools. Congrats to all of those boys.
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Still not impressed. [/quote]

Do yourself a favor and at least try to hide your ignorance without comically self- confident statements.


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Hey Mr. Resentment. We love guys like you, you always are the ones punching the drywall at the end. LOL. You are humorous. "my on age beast" "We'll never stop" "my kid has confidence" my, my , my, I , I, I. Give me an L, give me an O, give me an S, i think you get it.


L.O.S....."S" !! As in a complete "loss" for words to describe the pathetic low return gaming that is employed in the greater belt area. (But allow me to try! )

A larger percentage of the "keep up with the cheating at lax Jonses" will fail in their pursuit to gain a great advantage in recruitment in the holdback attempt process. What do you all do then? Spend another year in 13th grade at 40-50k and try again?

You see; kids like ours on Long Island make their way without the hold back process. Plain and simple and statistically verifiable. This "process" was initiated in other sports but the greater well off lax parent community saw that their little boys couldn't match up with the best of the tristate area. Thus the dive into the holdback system with great hopes in mind.

I feel somewhat sorry for you all where you're spending or have spent so much private school dollars and have yet to realize that return you had so feverishly prayed for.

What should I do with all of the possible PG and private school money that I saved when my just turned 15 yo freshman in public school was committed ast fall to a top 8 seeded team in the current ncaa D1 tourney?

Did he achieve that with mommy and daddy getting on their knees and servicing the private school coach of their choice and filling the schools coffers with yet more coin?

No. He did it the old fashioned way. Hard work. Dedication. Discipline. Self confidence. And with those; he gained self respect and that of his peers.

If your 2017 or older kid doesn't have these concepts drilled into the fabric of his life by now; he never will. And that makes you a failure as a parent.

no amount of PG holdback cheating money can ever be worth more than those values.

Invest wisely, my friends. Paving the road for your kid to have an easy path does not always yield the returns that the above principles will.

Now....back to your spelling bee cheer. Repeat it aloud as you look in the mirror tomorrow morning.



check the rosters of the quarterfinal teams. start with duke. Their starting mid/att are all hold backs or pg. ND leading scorer is a PG. Hopkins, well i don't even need to look.

Imagine the money your true 2017 could have gotten if you reclassed him?


Money wasn't, isn't and won't be a problem! :-)

Sorry.



"A top 8 seeded team"???? Those 8 go from duke, to ivy to Albany and Maryland etc. My point is that not all schools are considered the same caliper. If I'm not mistaken most all, if not all, freshman commits are from schools other then Ivy's and duke. Just saying you can brag all you want about your so sons commitment to Albany. Doesn't impress me.


Albany was unseeded. But beat the 3 seed. And if you can do an internet search; you'll find that you are mistaken on all aspects of your uniformed tripe. So do your due diligence and then come back to pontificate. Until then; PIPE DOWN!

And calipers are what hold your break pads on your car....clearly you might not even have gotten into a SUNY school with that command of the language

Lastly: no one is trying to impress you. The fact is; the kid is impressive. As is his accomplishment.

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Still not impressed. [/quote]

That what your wife said when you told her "honey, I got a raise!" Then added; you should have tried lacrosse...those kids get into REAL colleges....not APEX TECH!!!

Sizzle...

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I love that all the LI people are upset about this… Isn't this the same reason Team 91's of the world are so dominant?

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He meant give your best guess or estimate.....
Simple question

My guess is 15 % are held back at the big LI school lax programs

Probably 5-10% additional reclasifed at the catholic and privates.


Chaminade freshman group has at least 5 held back players - STA freshman has at least 3.


Don't know about 5....but can say 1 from GC for sure who took a year at Friends before starting Chaminade. As a graduate of the school I am disappointed. I like to see the teams do well as much as anyone else....but this is cheating and it is contrary to what the school is about. My $.02



I, too, am a Chaminade alum and I am disappointed with my fellow Chaminade's comment. It's not my business nor yours or anyone else's for that matter. Who does what with their children. There is no law being broken so please stop whining like a girl and find something better to do.


Girl? Maybe a few girls at Chaminade might tone you down a bit? "No law broken" so it's ok? That sounds like the kind of moral code Chaminades all about.... Is that what you learned there? Glad my son's chose to stay public.

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First of all, the Philadelphia Metro area is the Hottest recruiting hot bed in the country. 2016 Class has 51 Div 1 commitments already. 51! Island isn't even close. With Haverford, Episcopal, Germantown, Malvern Prep, Lasalle,Conestoga, Radnor, all with in miles of each other, there is nowhere in the country with this amount of talent in such a small area. I would be that between Malvern and Haverford alone there are 40 commits between 2017 -2015. And yes there are some reclassified kids so it must be working. An your "on age beast" aint [lacrosse] down here. We'd whoop his [lacrosse].


Go feed your 17 yo sophomore some more scrapple... He ain't whoopin nothing. Except maybe your [lacrosse] when he figures out you held him back for sports dumba--. Hurry up, go get the phone it might be Petro... NOT.


Fact is, this Summer U15 in COLORADO is the closest to gather who is held back and who isn't. If you GO to play at the U15 than you ARE ON AGE (you DO need proof of age). If you don't go AND your teammates goes (or players from your team align with someone else) than its a obvious your older.


Agreed, U15 will explain a lot.


Exactly, go to results from last year, Dukes maybe got to quarter finals. Why? They went with the 2017 team. Because none of their 2016's could qualify with the age. Any time MD or PA have to play on age, they can't compete. It took a team comprised of six states all-stars to beat the LI team.

US lacrosse should step up and deny individual player insurance for events that do not go by it's age rules. One sure way to end this. When the liability is shifted to event organizers and or property owners, you will see change. Bet you folks from MD and PA don't want that to happen?

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First of all, the Philadelphia Metro area is the Hottest recruiting hot bed in the country. 2016 Class has 51 Div 1 commitments already. 51! Island isn't even close. With Haverford, Episcopal, Germantown, Malvern Prep, Lasalle,Conestoga, Radnor, all with in miles of each other, there is nowhere in the country with this amount of talent in such a small area. I would be that between Malvern and Haverford alone there are 40 commits between 2017 -2015. And yes there are some reclassified kids so it must be working. An your "on age beast" aint [lacrosse] down here. We'd whoop his [lacrosse].


Go feed your 17 yo sophomore some more scrapple... He ain't whoopin nothing. Except maybe your [lacrosse] when he figures out you held him back for sports dumba--. Hurry up, go get the phone it might be Petro... NOT.


Fact is, this Summer U15 in COLORADO is the closest to gather who is held back and who isn't. If you GO to play at the U15 than you ARE ON AGE (you DO need proof of age). If you don't go AND your teammates goes (or players from your team align with someone else) than its a obvious your older.


Agreed, U15 will explain a lot.


Exactly, go to results from last year, Dukes maybe got to quarter finals. Why? They went with the 2017 team. Because none of their 2016's could qualify with the age. Any time MD or PA have to play on age, they can't compete. It took a team comprised of six states all-stars to beat the LI team.

US lacrosse should step up and deny individual player insurance for events that do not go by it's age rules. One sure way to end this. When the liability is shifted to event organizers and or property owners, you will see change. Bet you folks from MD and PA don't want that to happen?


Unfortunately, I think it will come down to a serious injury that will force the hands of the insurers.

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Plenty of holdbacks in every age group in GC. Usually kids born in the summer/early fall ... but the decision was made at the start of the school process, not in the middle. Parents decide to start those kids in the next kindergarten grade, to give them an athletic and academic advantage (or, from their perspective, to make sure they are not academically or athletically "disadvantaged" by being at the end of the grade age range).

Those kids have a real advantage. Unfair, but real.

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Plenty of holdbacks in every age group in GC. Usually kids born in the summer/early fall ... but the decision was made at the start of the school process, not in the middle. Parents decide to start those kids in the next kindergarten grade, to give them an athletic and academic advantage (or, from their perspective, to make sure they are not academically or athletically "disadvantaged" by being at the end of the grade age range).

Those kids have a real advantage. Unfair, but real.


Really? I call BS. You're just trying to kick up a sh*t storm. You have zero substantiaon for that claim. "Plenty"??? Sure. Go back to the pipe. Must be from manhasset or a GC parent whose kid hasn't, doesn't, and won't ever start as he thinks the others must have some "advantage" over his D-1 hopeful 4th grader.

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Not OP. But have been around and advised by enough GC patents who "redshirt" their kindergartener. They do one year in a private school and one in public. No big deal. They just angle so their kid is 6yo going into K. But its more common then you think.

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Not OP. But have been around and advised by enough GC patents who "redshirt" their kindergartener. They do one year in a private school and one in public. No big deal. They just angle so their kid is 6yo going into K. But its more common then you think.


Man, if that's true then I've been living under a rock. Must be in certain circles only. We raised our kid age appropriate and he's doing really well.

Come to think of it; GC prob needs to do this. Ever seen how small the FB team is?


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He meant give your best guess or estimate.....
Simple question

My guess is 15 % are held back at the big LI school lax programs

Probably 5-10% additional reclasifed at the catholic and privates.


Chaminade freshman group has at least 5 held back players - STA freshman has at least 3.


Don't know about 5....but can say 1 from GC for sure who took a year at Friends before starting Chaminade. As a graduate of the school I am disappointed. I like to see the teams do well as much as anyone else....but this is cheating and it is contrary to what the school is about. My $.02



I, too, am a Chaminade alum and I am disappointed with my fellow Chaminade's comment. It's not my business nor yours or anyone else's for that matter. Who does what with their children. There is no law being broken so please stop whining like a girl and find something better to do.


There is no way a Chaminade man wrote this.....

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He meant give your best guess or estimate.....
Simple question

My guess is 15 % are held back at the big LI school lax programs

Probably 5-10% additional reclasifed at the catholic and privates.


Chaminade freshman group has at least 5 held back players - STA freshman has at least 3.


Don't know about 5....but can say 1 from GC for sure who took a year at Friends before starting Chaminade. As a graduate of the school I am disappointed. I like to see the teams do well as much as anyone else....but this is cheating and it is contrary to what the school is about. My $.02



I, too, am a Chaminade alum and I am disappointed with my fellow Chaminade's comment. It's not my business nor yours or anyone else's for that matter. Who does what with their children. There is no law being broken so please stop whining like a girl and find something better to do.



Are you kidding me? So I guess the real men are the ones who cannot dominate their age group and decide to park themselves for a year at some expensive private school to gain an unfair advantage?.

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Is it true that a kid on the 91 crush team was not only "reclassifield" once, but twice?!

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What happened to Mr Still Not Impressed??

I miss him.

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