US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2018 Fall 2013/Summer 2014

Your are probably the same parent who tells their child that they were screwed out of a spot, maybe instead of trying to place blame or make excuses, encourage your child to work harder, learn from the event to work on areas that they feel needs improvement. I guarantee that your child is more honest about the outcome of the tryouts than most of the parents who come on the board to bash the various organization who setup the showcases. Yes 91 coaches did get involved in both Brine Nationals and 3d JR tryouts but so do several other coaches from other clubs. My son does not play for 91 but he will even admit that the players selected are top players. Same happened last year for the North team, but those were Express players, no Express coach was involved last year. I recommend that any 2018 player parent believes their child is at top level, sign up for the NAT175 Individual coming up in July. They added 75 spots and is by recommendation by Coach, HS or Club.

Let's just be happy for the players who made it, cheer them on to do well at Brine Nationals and work to make it next year onto the 2018 team.

The blame is fully on him and us for enrolling him in his proper/expected class year. So, I've asked my son to step up and work hard to move his birth date back one year, so he can be like all the other 2017s in the mix here ... err, I mean "2018s" (*wink*).

it is impossible to do a tryout with unbiased evaluators - anybody that is in the long island lacrosse community is at most two degrees of separation away from every kid on the field. No way to avoid it, understanding that, it is impossible to explain to a kid that was in the final game that not only was not selected for the team or as an alternate but kids not making the final game where on the list as alternates. It was just clumsy on their part and really means nothing unless one of those kids winds up on the teams.

Mine is true 2018 birth date appropriate...Didn't try out for Brine as we didn't even know about that one. It wasn't talked about on club team or among his friends. It seems parents can be pretty tight lipped about these events and try-outs.

He did go to Florida and got an invite to Jake Reed in Maryland.

Can someone please share how Maverick works? Is that only for 2017 and higher or did we miss that try-out? Do you need to go to a website and sign up? all help appreciated.

You have no clue. You are the parent who feels nepotism is ok. A spot gets taken by a player who should not be on final team. Its obvious better players were over looked and your ok with it. In regards to the kids selected yes they are good. You can ask them they will tell you better kids were left off.

Parenting moment here for you the above poster. Your child plays exceptionally well and happens to be on the same team and line as another player who doesn't play well. They were basically side by side the whole tryout. Its very obvious your son is better player. To the point where parents you dont know tell you how good he looks and he's a shoe in to at least to make final game, but he doesn't get asked to play. He knows how well he did (been training like a dog rain shine through injury etc.) and the other kid played poorly but makes final game. He knows the truth no explanation needed. I also think the kid who was selected knows the truth. Or is daddy blowing sunshine up his skirt and tells him he is the best. This isnt 5th grade anymore players are passing by those players everyone thought were the best. It will continue to happen.

Well, you are right, this isn't 5th grade and my son was side by side with the players, but as a for a "parenting moment", seriously, get a life. there were several players who parents were talking about being a shoe in but you obviously haven't figure it out yet, I'll put into simple words for you, parents (that includes you and me) are not the ones who look to see for certain things that stick out in the evaluators' mind. Player may have phenomenal stick skill but constantly misses the cage, who really knows.

All I'm saying is congratulate the players who made it and move on.

Best part is that a week ago every one was saying that this isn't a showcase and were downplaying the event. Yet... so many upset people. I am soooooooo glad when I logged on it said "SOLD OUT". And when I called I was advised to just go to another region. I did, players were picked, nobody complained, and life went on. Must be our water on LI.

Look who's calling the kettle black! ( mr. Anonymous)

Best part is that a week ago every one was saying that this isn't a showcase and were downplaying the event. Yet... so many upset people. I am soooooooo glad when I logged on it said "SOLD OUT". And when I called I was advised to just go to another region. I did, players were picked, nobody complained, and life went on. Must be our water on LI.

From a parent whoe kid went to Brine last summer (2017), it was a fun event but no means a huge deal if you kid doesn't go. Maverick, Jake Reed in the summer and Philly Showcase in the Fall of Freshman year much more important to the recruiting process. Brine is a well-run event, representing your state/area, got first showcase-type event for the biys to get used to before Maverick, Jake Reed, etc. and it is probably modestly helpful of your son getting his name out there. But definately not the end of the world if you kid didn't make it or didn't sign up.I think the parents just go crazy (as evidenced by this Board) as it is the first time kids are selected for something outside of there club teams and there are a lot of emotions with making/not making it (frankly more for the parents probably than the kids unfortunately).

I think people were referring to the fact if the Pride of LI is a recruiting event. I believe everyone knows the Brine event is a good recruiting event. Its up there with Jake Reed, Maverick, National 175, Top 205 etc.

my kid was there last year and this is total crap. See post (mine) a few above from someone whose kid was there. Good, well run event and really fun for the boys but not really a recruiting event unless things are different than last year.

Parenting Moment? Really Dr. Phil? The problem with your post is that your "opinion" is simply that, "your opinion". If I'm reading correctly, your son did not even make the "showcase" game? So maybe a little introspective reasoning might be a good start that maybe he didn't do as well as "YOU" think he did, or he would have at least had the opportunity to show his talents in the final deciding event. As far as "players passing by those who were thought to be the best"?, let's all just sit back and wait to see if the players who "continue" to dominate prove their "universal" talent when recruiting begins. Best of luck to you and your son.

I think most of the problem stems from the staff. why would brine use 2 coaches from 91 to evaluate the teams. because of xtreme coach and the new relationship with the duke coach and the PW guy. it was bias from day 1. so these kids didn't make the team and everyone knows the buddy calls went in that night and then the xtreme kids show on the alternate list.cmon man. you guys are really low lifes.

The whole point of this discussion about Brine is the way some not all players were chosen. Explain to me this, how can a player that had a crap tryout really a crap tryout who was on the same line as my son be chosen to play in the final game. He wears a certain helmet can answer that. A few people did mention how well my son played and actually were surprised he wasn't chosen to at least be in the final game. Then another player who also wears a certain helmet wasn't even chosen to be in final game is named an alternate over other players who were in the final game. Please explain.

As for my son I am very proud of the fact he made it this far and he understands on his own that sh** happens. Long Island is a hot bed for lacrosse and people as myself are very passionate about it. When your kid works hard shows well and other kids are chosen for reasons other than their play it leaves a very bad taste in your mouth. As one poster said its better to discuss on the thread than kick the family dog or punch someone in the face. It is just a discussion of some of the things that just didn't sit right with many. I am not the only one who made this observation based on all that is being said about it on the site.

I think you are all missing the point here. The team was picked back in November. It didn't matter if your kid did or did not make the "showcase game". Everyone knows who the best players are. Especially all the kids who play with and against them. There should be no sour grapes about the top 23 kids that were picked. Those kids are the best, whether you like it or not. Sorry...

Why are you all venting here? Email Brine.

You do understand this is an internet forum. Emailing Brine will get you no where.

Internet forum: discussion board on the Internet. That is what this site. To discuss our opinions. A good debate I will never run from. Please tell me where I have not given a good articulate response or theory that is so outlandish it has no possibility of being true. There are quite a few who feel the same way I do that they have filled the pages of this forum with their opinions of the faulted process. Here are some examples

1. Players who didn't
participate in first tryout (you know the freezing cold one where all the kids toughed it out in conditions lacrosse should not be played in) A tryout is a tryout you cant be there then you miss the opportunity. Its a life lesson.

2. Players who weren't invited to play in final game named alternates.

3. Having coaches who directly profit from advertising how many of their players make it to showcases be involved in the selection process.

Please enlighten me as to where I dont make sense. I apologize for not being a cunning linguist like you Shakespeare or are you Chaucer reincarnate.

How many should be 2017's? I only know of 3 or 4.

Please all understand this entire debate, like all others on this board, is based upon how your child gets effected.

So if your kid was chosen to play, you want everyone to say, this was the best process and brine is the best event and the kids on the team are the best on LI.

If your kid wasn't chosen, you want everyone to say, the process was unfair and some kids that should have been chosen weren't.

then we have the people who are realistic, who don't give this entire subject much thought, but those people are likely not in the majority as it is human nature to protect and promote our own children.

the truth is somewhere in the middle. many of the right kids were chosen, many were not and of course there are politics in the process, just like every other aspect of life. You should all also remember, there are lots of kids that are very good that didn't try out for this team for whatever reason, lack of knowledge, time conflicts or value.

Brine is a nice thing to put on your lax resume but it is not a recruiting event, those events start in a few weeks. So, if your kid goes to JR and the colleges start calling, then you know your kid is the real deal. If those colleges don't call, tell your kid to work harder for next year as the college coaches aren't employed by 91, LIE, Crabs...So no one can claim their kid is best or their kid wasn't given fair shake---that is where the process gets fair...