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Discussions covering the Long Island Dune Dawgs and Havoc can be held in this thread. From the Havoc Lacrosse site, there is information covering the merger between these two clubs and their combined mission.

The directors of HAVOC Lacrosse and The Long Island Dune Dawgs Lacrosse programs are excited to announce the combining of programs. This merger will ultimately meet the needs of ALL athletes! HAVOC will remain a "travel" program meeting the needs of all developing athletes, while our Dune Dawgs program will be a "select" team, challenging the needs of higher level athletes. We feel that this merge is going to fill the cracks that other programs may have.

Both programs will receive the college level instruction and focus on the HAVOC philosophies: discipline, hard work, motivation and knowledge of the subject matter. These are cornerstones of success on which HAVOC Lacrosse has built their philosophy. We will empower our players with winning attitudes, skill development and instill within them certain basic values such as leadership, determination, self-confidence, emotional control, mental toughness, as well as the ability to accept responsibility. Tournament play is to be just one part of values and practice.

We would like to saturate our athletes in skill development through planned, disciplined, intricate practices. College level coaches will develop practices. We believe that athletes need to have consistent reinforcement of these fundamental skills. All players are different and differentiated instruction should be taken into consideration when teaching fundamentals, selecting positions, and motivating young men. Repetition is a key to learning and feedback from players is important in maintaining functional drills. All drills will be associated to the game. We do not drill for the sake of drilling.

We also believe that TEAM cohesiveness is crucial. We want our athletes to experience the true sense of what it means to be part of a TEAM. (Responsibility, bond, dependence, goals, familiarity) Athletes need to feel comfortable, and know they can depend on their team from their teammates to their coaching staff down to the parental support from the sidelines. We believe poise under pressure is the mark of a champion, and coaches must lead by example. Poise is the end result of preparation, knowledge of your opponent, and confidence in one's ability to make correct decisions. Athletes will get a true sense of what it means to be a WINNING team, because our athletes will focus on what is truly important, becoming a more skilled lacrosse player, while also gaining values strengthened through the team.

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Havoc DuneDawgs 2019 went 3-0 today at the FallBrawl shootout in the sixth grade division. Way to go boys!!!!! Keep working hard over the winter!

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who did you play, Hellen Heller great grand kids?

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Not quite,6th grade JESTERS A TEAM,6th grade outlaws A team and a 6th grade syossett team that was very good!!!and by the way we are a 4-5 grade team!!!!! And I guess you meant Hellen Keller but you can't even get that right genius!!!!!

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Unlike the other pages on here, we are going to keep this a positive page just about the boys. We will not be having negative back and forth comments going on here. We play the schedule given.... Anywhere and anytime!

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Well said!! This organization is about the boys, their experience and their growth as lacrosse players. There will always be haters, but we will not get into that. We show our stuff on the field.

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Not quite,6th grade JESTERS A TEAM,6th grade outlaws A team and a 6th grade syossett team that was very good!!!and by the way we are a 4-5 grade team!!!!! And I guess you meant Hellen Keller but you can't even get that right genius!!!!!


It's "Helen Keller," one "L" in Helen. Who's the genius now? grin

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Good Luck keeping it positive! We tried that but the parents of these teams are so out of control,and BOTC is an anything goes blog!I saw your 2019 play great group of good players. Good Luck this season and with your program.

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Great group of kids, they are all amazing- Their record shows for themselves what a great organization the Havoc Dune Dawgs are gonna be in the future Good Luck in winter and summer ball. It will be fun to watch--do you know what tournaments this organization is going to play

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the defense was awesome yesterday- so big are u sure they are 5th graders

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My youngest played against havoc yesterday morning at coastal (3rd grade), thought the kids were well coached and played great. Good luck!

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They are a big group of 5th graders. Thanks for the compliment about them. Coach Mac does a great job with them. This is the reason why I decided to only play for the Havoc DuneDawgs this year. As a basketball coach myself, I feel that each position on the field, (i.e. attack, midfield, defense) needs to be taught the nuances of that particular position. This will allow the kids to attain a higher level of success individually, as well as, collectively.

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Thanks for the compliment! Great group of kids on and off the field.This is their 3rd season together.

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Is there a 2018 Dune Dawgs team?

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Based on an indoor schedule I've seen for the winter, there are teams for 3rd/4th/5&6th grade playing.

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Just 3rd 4th and 5th are playing indoor this first session.

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Are you kidding??? Unbelievable....Is that from one of the sixth grade parents from the other teams they played and beat? Maybe you are speaking of one of our large 4th graders who bested your sixth grader....hmmm

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Easy, easy with the responses. No need to boast!!! Yes I'm quite sure you are proud of the boys, but let's not turn this into one of the other pages on BOTC.....

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There sure is!

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Thanks!

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Good job by the HDD 2019 Green in winning the Madlax Capital Classic this past weekend... Continue to work hard boys, and get ready for the Stowe Lax Fest!!!!!

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Any info on when DD will be having their tryouts?

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Still waiting-- everyone else annouced but they did not, maybe they werent as succesful as they thought

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They are in contract negotiations with 91 Lacrosse.
Stay Tuned for the Merge....




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Still waiting-- everyone else annouced but they did not, maybe they werent as succesful as they thought

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They are in contract negotiations with 91 Lacrosse.
Stay Tuned for the Merge....




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Still waiting-- everyone else annouced but they did not, maybe they werent as succesful as they thought


Any truth to this CAGE?

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They are in contract negotiations with 91 Lacrosse.
Stay Tuned for the Merge....


Where did you hear that? Checked with people close to both organizations, and neither heard about that yet...

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Still waiting-- everyone else annouced but they did not, maybe they werent as succesful as they thought

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Please don't start the nonsense!!!!!

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They are in contract negotiations with 91 Lacrosse.
Stay Tuned for the Merge....

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Still waiting-- everyone else annouced but they did not, maybe they werent as succesful as they thought


Any truth to this CAGE?
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They are in contract negotiations with 91 Lacrosse.
Stay Tuned for the Merge....

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Still waiting-- everyone else annouced but they did not, maybe they werent as succesful as they thought


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Thanks Cage. Do we know who started this nonsense that could potentially damage HDD tryout #s with that rumor?

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They are in contract negotiations with 91 Lacrosse.
Stay Tuned for the Merge....

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Still waiting-- everyone else annouced but they did not, maybe they werent as succesful as they thought


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Heard its a done deal and they are re-branding the organization.
"TeamLongIsland91HavocDuneDawgsStampede"
Should look great on the uniforms.

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Originally Posted by CageSage
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They are in contract negotiations with 91 Lacrosse.
Stay Tuned for the Merge....

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Still waiting-- everyone else annouced but they did not, maybe they werent as succesful as they thought


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Glad to hear it. Rally made no sense. From what I understood those guys merged last year in order to have a better structure, The DD guys handled the Admin side and Taylor handled the coaching aspects. Really nice set up since he has virtualy a coaching farm system in place threw his college job.

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Thanks Cage. Do we know who started this nonsense that could potentially damage HDD tryout #s with that rumor?
BOTC is not going to share any details on the source of the discussion. As for tryout numbers, we do not have visibility on the plans for the Dune Dawgs/Havoc tryouts and the marketing that they are doing. However, it is safe to say that at least in the context of BOTC, we have quickly dispensed with any questions.

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Thanks Cage. Do we know who started this nonsense that could potentially damage HDD tryout #s with that rumor?
BOTC is not going to share any details on the source of the discussion. As for tryout numbers, we do not have visibility on the plans for the Dune Dawgs/Havoc tryouts and the marketing that they are doing. However, it is safe to say that at least in the context of BOTC, we have quickly dispensed with any questions.


And that you have. Great job as usual!

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Any info on when DD will be having their tryouts?


Tryouts Announced today for Havoc Dune Dawgs Lacrosse Visit their site!

www.HavocDDLax.com

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What is the difference between 2018 Blue and Yellow? A & B or is it B&C with the Green being the A teams. I see there is no Green at that age so what is the deal. Anyone know how they were this year?

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What is the difference between 2018 Blue and Yellow? A & B or is it B&C with the Green being the A teams. I see there is no Green at that age so what is the deal. Anyone know how they were this year?


Green are "elite" teams. Both the 2018 teams were strong B teams which played some A depending upon the tournament. We expect to have 1-2 2018 A teams this year and at least 1 B.

They faired well, learning a tremendous amount from their coaches. ALL HDD Head Coaches have College Lacrosse experience. 98% of the coaching is NOT parent coaching, but coaches who are hired to COACH

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What is the difference between 2018 Blue and Yellow? A & B or is it B&C with the Green being the A teams. I see there is no Green at that age so what is the deal. Anyone know how they were this year?


Green are "elite" teams. Both the 2018 teams were strong B teams which played some A depending upon the tournament. We expect to have 1-2 2018 A teams this year and at least 1 B.

They faired well, learning a tremendous amount from their coaches. ALL HDD Head Coaches have College Lacrosse experience. 98% of the coaching is NOT parent coaching, but coaches who are hired to COACH


Strong B teams? That is stretching it a bit. Let's hope for some good recruits coming down for tryouts. Understand you need to sell your program but keep it real.

Also, please define Elite? Thanks

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What is the difference between 2018 Blue and Yellow? A & B or is it B&C with the Green being the A teams. I see there is no Green at that age so what is the deal. Anyone know how they were this year?


Green are "elite" teams. Both the 2018 teams were strong B teams which played some A depending upon the tournament. We expect to have 1-2 2018 A teams this year and at least 1 B.

They faired well, learning a tremendous amount from their coaches. ALL HDD Head Coaches have College Lacrosse experience. 98% of the coaching is NOT parent coaching, but coaches who are hired to COACH


Strong B teams? That is stretching it a bit. Let's hope for some good recruits coming down for tryouts. Understand you need to sell your program but keep it real.

Also, please define Elite? Thanks


Clearly you're not interested in learning about the program. As a parent of a player with this organization I'm not interested in BS. So good luck to you. I'm not "selling" a program, trying to give feedback, isn't that what BOTC is for?

I've had my sons play with other organizations, I happen to enjoy this one most and the way it is run. This was a great year and I am looking forward to more great times, outstanding coaching, and my kids learning a lot.

"Elite" would be a team that plays above the A level consistently. So call it AA AAA Elite whatever, it just means consistently above A.

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both sides - Stop the nonsense - you can call any team any "letter" color (nobody is officially ranking the teams).

Being the best out of your age group makes you elite - comparing yourself to everybody else in your age group (not to be confused with being the best you can be).

Didnt we also learn any team can call themselves "A" that are truly "B" and any team can call themsleves "B" that are truly "A".

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The following announcement was made at the Havoc Dune Dawgs web site. BOTC expresses our heartfelt sympathy to the family and the HDD program.

It is with heavy hearts that we share with you the passing of one of the members of our HDD Lacrosse Family. Mike Shotts, one of the HDD Directors, passed away suddenly late Sunday night. We are filled with sadness and shock by this sudden loss of not only our partner, but our good friend.

We know you all join us in wishing the Shotts' family sincere condolences. Please keep them in your thoughts and prayers as they navigate this very tragic time.

Should you wish to offer condolences please forward them to us, and we will be sure the Shotts Family receives them.

Please mail to:
HDD Lacrosse
P.O. Box 259
Commack, NY 11725

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