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Chaminade loses to Yorktown!! OMG, a public school, how could this have happened??


Because Y-Town is a good team


A small town that draws from maybe a 5 mile radius taking down a national powerhouse that draws the best from long island - on their home field. A beautiful thing.

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We will see if the landscape changes again when Northport's main players are back this week.

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They are going to need them against the Smthtowns, though I think N will beat Whitman and BS by a wide margin

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Chaminade loses to Yorktown!! OMG, a public school, how could this have happened??


Because Y-Town is a good team


A small town that draws from maybe a 5 mile radius taking down a national powerhouse that draws the best from long island - on their home field. A beautiful thing.


Congrats to Yorktown. That's a nice win.

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Who told you chaminade was afraid to play them?

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I Dont think GC and Cham afraid to play Hill. They were beaten on island in fall ball. Big diff frome reg season but they arent invincible

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To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there

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To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there


Who cares! The world doesn't revolve around Chaminade

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To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there


I'm a SA parent and alum and find i need to defend the Bubble Bathers here (still can't believe i am though smile ). there is no shame in losing a game to Yorktown (tests or no tests). Quality program up there. Losses happen. Just hoping they lose 2 more games this year and not against Greenwich, Fairfield Prep or Delbarton!

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To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there


I'm a SA parent and alum and find i need to defend the Bubble Bathers here (still can't believe i am though smile ). there is no shame in losing a game to Yorktown (tests or no tests). Quality program up there. Losses happen. Just hoping they lose 2 more games this year and not against Greenwich, Fairfield Prep or Delbarton!


Elite private lax programs should never lose to a town team that has a small fraction of the talent pool to draw from. Two years in a row? It's an embarassment - especially on your home field. Period.

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To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there


"Chaminade Haters" or Obnoxious, bragging "Chaminade daddys" ...which came first? This ridiculousness never ends I see

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To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there


I'm a SA parent and alum and find i need to defend the Bubble Bathers here (still can't believe i am though smile ). there is no shame in losing a game to Yorktown (tests or no tests). Quality program up there. Losses happen. Just hoping they lose 2 more games this year and not against Greenwich, Fairfield Prep or Delbarton!


Elite private lax programs should never lose to a town team that has a small fraction of the talent pool to draw from. Two years in a row? It's an embarassment - especially on your home field. Period.


Compare the number of college committed kids between Chaminade and Yorktown. The result is a huge surprise any way you look at it. Yorktown, the giant slayer!

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There is definitely a pattern across these threads. Any team that has a winning streak, plays up successfully, wins their games consecutively etc, get torn to shreds for losing a game here and there. Are these teams really invincible? Of course not! The pressure people put on kids as young as 8, up to the HS and even college. There will be loses along the way and it is nothing to be embarrassed about. Grown adults ragging on a team for losing A game- come on- that just shows others your true colors- green- with envy.

I'm sure the Chaminade team is beating themselves up over the loss, as other teams do, when they usually go undefeated, but a good coach and team will learn from the game and come out stronger in the end.

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There is definitely a pattern across these threads. Any team that has a winning streak, plays up successfully, wins their games consecutively etc, get torn to shreds for losing a game here and there. Are these teams really invincible? Of course not! The pressure people put on kids as young as 8, up to the HS and even college. There will be loses along the way and it is nothing to be embarrassed about. Grown adults ragging on a team for losing A game- come on- that just shows others your true colors- green- with envy.

I'm sure the Chaminade team is beating themselves up over the loss, as other teams do, when they usually go undefeated, but a good coach and team will learn from the game and come out stronger in the end.


This is true! I'm not a Chaminade fan, but do agree. Nobody really likes to see anyone else do well, except their own kids, many times even their own team members! Sad

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They are going to need them against the Smthtowns, though I think N will beat Whitman and BS by a wide margin


I wouldn't sleep on WW...

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To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there


Who cares! The world doesn't revolve around Chaminade


We need to win every game by a wide margin. Failure is not an options. This is a reflection of life. Heads need to roll.

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Whitman will need to win the NP game to make the playoffs I say NP wins by 4 but WW will keep it close to the 4th

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To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there


This is an age old problem with the public school system on the boys side. The girls have figured it out with a "suope league" and there's no good reason why the boys can't do the same.

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Very good game between Cold Spring Harbor and Mineola until the the Fouth Quarter.

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thanks kreskin!

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Whitman will need to win the NP game to make the playoffs I say NP wins by 4 but WW will keep it close to the 4th


No they don't if they beat Riverhead today they should make playoffs looking at rest of schedule. However if they lose to Riverhead they will need to beat NP.

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To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there


This is an age old problem with the public school system on the boys side. The girls have figured it out with a "suope league" and there's no good reason why the boys can't do the same.
You should move to a Tournament of Champions system like i NJ where there is one overall state champion across publics and privates. It is an awesome tournament and all of the speculation about who is best is answered in the tournament. Like college hoops where there is one winner across all teams.

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To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there


This is an age old problem with the public school system on the boys side. The girls have figured it out with a "suope league" and there's no good reason why the boys can't do the same.
You should move to a Tournament of Champions system like i NJ where there is one overall state champion across publics and privates. It is an awesome tournament and all of the speculation about who is best is answered in the tournament. Like college hoops where there is one winner across all teams.


Couldn't agree more. The super league should have 10-12 of the best from Long Island (Upstate you have more than enough teams to do your own thing) voted on by the coaches and using something like laxpower ratings as the tiebreaker if any discrepency. Each year the bottom 2-4 would swap places with the top 2-4 from the division below.

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To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there


This is an age old problem with the public school system on the boys side. The girls have figured it out with a "suope league" and there's no good reason why the boys can't do the same.
You should move to a Tournament of Champions system like i NJ where there is one overall state champion across publics and privates. It is an awesome tournament and all of the speculation about who is best is answered in the tournament. Like college hoops where there is one winner across all teams.


Couldn't agree more. The super league should have 10-12 of the best from Long Island (Upstate you have more than enough teams to do your own thing) voted on by the coaches and using something like laxpower ratings as the tiebreaker if any discrepency. Each year the bottom 2-4 would swap places with the top 2-4 from the division below.
In NJ it is done within groups (group 4 publics -largest, group 3, group 2, group 1 - smallest) and non-public a and non-public b). State tournament games are first played witrhin groups (group 4 games only until a winner) and then ultimately winner of each group plays in the tournament of champions event where there is 1 winner.

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And then the state champs should battle each other!

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Most Suffolk games re scheduled for Thursday -
Any Games at all today ?

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Can't see them playing. Rain is heavy and cold. Grass fields are out of the question.

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Whitman with a gritty win in the rain. Can they make noise?

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Whitman with a gritty win in the rain. Can they make noise?

Whitman is a VERY good team, I would not want to play them . Goalie keeps them in Every game

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You missed the point.... The coaching staff had their own personal agenda.
No attitude or poor performance
Just simple- the HS coaching staff feels obligated to start kids that pay for their training session on the side...
Get it??

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That is the shame of what Long Island lax evolved to...
Cut throat haters!
Lax was once a big fraternity of gentleman who competed hard then, praised each other after the game over a beer or whatever....
Now parents are behave the same way as the dreaded hockey and football parents.

The kids will all learn to hate the pressure, and the uglyness, and inevitably hang up the cleats prematurely from pure burn out

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I think the playoffs are NOW in The works for WW with the 9-1 Run in 2nd Half against Riverhead
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Anyone know what happened at the Commack/Whitman game yesterday? Heard there was a brawl and it ended early.


There were no refs and game was getting chippy. Whitman was up about 10-1 and Commack was getting aggravated. It only lasted about 30 minutes until there was a little scuffle and then Commacks bench ran on to the field and Whitmans did not. It could have been worse if Whitman was not disciplined to stay on the bench.

How does everyone think the playoffs are going to end up in Suffolk? What teams are going to make it?


Whitman starts their conference play today. Could this game be an indication of playoff teams. Hope weather doesn't become a factor.


Did the Playoffs kinda go out the window with the second half?

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You missed the point.... The coaching staff had their own personal agenda.
No attitude or poor performance
Just simple- the HS coaching staff feels obligated to start kids that pay for their training session on the side...
Get it??


what school are you talking about?

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EAST IS BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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NP will Do what- They are not That Good, and Benching starting Goalie from last year, Then He quit Team, has Ruined the season, another great coaching job in NP


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They are going to need them against the Smthtowns, though I think N will beat Whitman and BS by a wide margin

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Some big upsets today. Suffolk A is really heating up. Great to see and looking forward to playoffs.

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Why this sounds like coming from 10&11 wm parents complaining?
SHAME!
WM is better than this.
Playing WM JV does guarantee making Var Team.

Stop complaining and talk to wm coaches if you have any issues.

You are right WM parents do complain a lot. Just watch tape of WM and Chaminade game or talk to parents from SW game. My guess is it is the upperclassman or parents upset that there kids are not seeing playing time.







Ward Melville has one 9th grader and two 10th graders who see meaningful playing time. No different from recent years, they have been bringing up 9th and 10th graders for many years at Melville. The Senior Class has the most players who see significant playing time with 6 or 7. Junior Class is right there with with 5 -7. They have a bunch of 9th and 10th graders on the Varsity but they do not see a lot of game time.

Can you explain today asinine loss by the coach and his 9th graders/10 graders super star's as well his calculated move to kill the clock with so much time left.

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For those of you who have Twitter, I will be covering Nassau and Suffolk lacrosse over at my Twitter page (http://twitter.com/DanLILax), as well as on LI Lacrosse News. I will have up-to-date playoff coverage of Class A, B1, B2, and B3, and the NSCHSAA.

The playoffs are always an extremely exciting time and this year should be no different. Hope you join me on the ride.

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Why this sounds like coming from 10&11 wm parents complaining?
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WM is better than this.
Playing WM JV does guarantee making Var Team.

Stop complaining and talk to wm coaches if you have any issues.

You are right WM parents do complain a lot. Just watch tape of WM and Chaminade game or talk to parents from SW game. My guess is it is the upperclassman or parents upset that there kids are not seeing playing time.







Ward Melville has one 9th grader and two 10th graders who see meaningful playing time. No different from recent years, they have been bringing up 9th and 10th graders for many years at Melville. The Senior Class has the most players who see significant playing time with 6 or 7. Junior Class is right there with with 5 -7. They have a bunch of 9th and 10th graders on the Varsity but they do not see a lot of game time.

Can you explain today asinine loss by the coach and his 9th graders/10 graders super star's as well his calculated move to kill the clock with so much time left.


Unfortunately no. I was not at the game but last I checked Lacrosse is a team sport so I doubt is was one or two players who were responsible for the loss.
I never called the 9th and 10th graders superstars. What I did was point out that the makeup of this team (in terms of grade and who plays) is no different from recent years. The majority of the playing time goes to seniors and juniors. Did something changed yesterday? Did more than one 9th grader see significant playing time yesterday? How about 10th graders? Did more than two 10th graders see a lot of action? I assume it was the same as it has been.

9th - 1
10th - 2
11th - 5 - 6
12th - 5 - 7

I do not agree with it but that is the way it has been at Ward Melville for several years.

Are there players on the sideline who are just as good or better than the players on the field? Yes there are. That has been happening for a while as well but it does not mean that the players who are lucky enough to play are not good.

I can not elaborate on the game management but I will say that players need to play until the final whistle. I am sure the coach did not tell the boys to stop playing defense.

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WM did not lose the game because of 9th& 10th graders. SN is a very good, tough team. WM had plenty of scoring opportunities that they
didnt finish. Too many off cage shots from WM's offense. SN plays
tough, has a great fogo, WM wont beat a team like that having a crappy shooting day. 9th & 10th graders didnt lose this game. Hats off to SN for playing well.

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WM went into a stall played not to lose. Had control of the game at 7 min mark with attack man standing behind cage for 2 mins the stall disrupted the flow and actually fired up Sachem when they got the ball back. The choice of strategy was odd as they had a 3 goal lead and to that point held them to 4 goals and only 1 in the second half to that point. WM would have been more effective shooting the ball and backing up X and controlling possessions that way as they were throughout the game. Sachem North solid take nothing away from them they were given an opportunity and took advantage of it.

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