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#53741 - 02/28/14 11:24 PM Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25  
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1. Boys' Latin (Md.)
2. Haverford School (Pa.)
3. Culver Military (Ind.)
4. St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
5. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
6. St. Paul's (Md.)
7. Massapequa (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Smithtown West (N.Y.)
11. Chaminade (N.Y.)
12. Landon (Md.)
13. Conestoga (Pa.)
14. Ward Melville (N.Y.)
15. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
16. Garden City (N.Y.)
17. Darien (Conn.)
18. Delbarton (N.J.)
19. Gonzaga (D.C.)
20. Calvert Hall (Md.)
21. Loyola Blakefield (Md.)
22. La Salle (Pa.)
23. Niskayuna (N.Y.)
24. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)
25. St. Ignatius Prep (Calif.)

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#53784 - 03/02/14 11:03 AM Re: Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25 [Re: THOMASJOHN]  

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Interesting. Because below is another popular ranking. We'll see how it all unfolds over the next few months.

Under Armour/Inside Lacrosse High School Top 25

1. Boys' Latin (Md.)
2. Culver (Ind.)
3. Haverford (Pa.)
4. Smithtown West (N.Y.)
5. St. Paul's (Md.)
6. Chaminade (N.Y.)
7. Salisbury School (Conn.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Massapequa (N.Y.)
10. Garden City (N.Y.)
11. Hill Academy (Ont.)
12. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
13. Gilman (Md.)
14. Landon (Md.)
15. Gonzaga (D.C.)
16. St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
17. Ward Melville (N.Y.)
18. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Brunswick (Conn.)
20. Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.)
21. Delbarton (N.J.)
22. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
23. Deerfield (Mass.)
24. Salesianum (Del.)
25. St. Ignatius Prep (Calif.)

#53791 - 03/02/14 12:08 PM Re: Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25 [Re: Anonymous]  

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I think Ward Melville will win Suffolk A.

#53805 - 03/02/14 09:36 PM Re: Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25 [Re: Anonymous]  

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I think they will not.

#53812 - 03/03/14 08:31 AM Re: Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think Ward Melville will win Suffolk A.


It will be Northport or Smithtown West

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#53819 - 03/03/14 09:18 AM Re: Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Northport? Improved perhaps, but not beating WM or West...

#53824 - 03/03/14 10:18 AM Re: Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Northport? Improved perhaps, but not beating WM or West...


WM will not be good this year, the are set to pull a WI

#53863 - 03/03/14 07:51 PM Re: Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Ward Melville graduated out all of their best players last year. I think it will probably be Smithtown West or Northport. Northport beat both at the JV level last year and has pulled up a lot of great talent.

#53868 - 03/03/14 10:07 PM Re: Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25 [Re: Anonymous]  

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Ward Melville graduated out all of their best players last year. I think it will probably be Smithtown West or Northport. Northport beat both at the JV level last year and has pulled up a lot of great talent.


Northport faceoff will beat S west EVERY TIME, not a contest! That gives them possession, and then....... we all know!

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Ward Melville graduated out all of their best players last year. I think it will probably be Smithtown West or Northport. Northport beat both at the JV level last year and has pulled up a lot of great talent.


Northport faceoff will beat S west EVERY TIME, not a contest! That gives them possession, and then....... we all know!


Take a close look at the 25 schools listed. We have 4 Long Island public schools represented as well as Chaminade and St Anthonys. All of the other teams are elite private schools. Tells you how strong Long Island lacrosse is.

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#53873 - 03/04/14 09:36 AM Re: Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25 [Re: Anonymous]  

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I don't know why some of these high school polls include the P.G. schools. Having post H.S. players makes you a junior college in my opinion. It would be nice to see a public school only poll as well.

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I don't know why some of these high school polls include the P.G. schools. Having post H.S. players makes you a junior college in my opinion. It would be nice to see a public school only poll as well.


Get used to the not so new reality. The balance of power in H.S. lacrosse nationally has changed dramatically over the past 10 years. Public H.S. lacrosse is an after thought now when talking about the best in the country. Even on Long Island, arguably the last of the Mohicans when it comes to nationally recognized public H.S. lax, there are only maybe 10 towns that matter on the local scene and maybe 5 on the national scene out of dozens of districts that play. And even the best on the Island are two privates. Far cry from what it used to be. Even traditional powers like Manhasset have fallen off the national map because they never schedule the national powers in PA and MD. Beating up on Floral Park and others like it may make the record look good but actually substracts points from their strength of schedule and their standing on a national level. Garden City recognized this years ago and added much more meat to their schedule and therefore remains on the national scene. In fact I would argue that GC's games against out of state national powers have become more important than the Woodstick.

#53904 - 03/04/14 08:21 PM Re: Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25 [Re: Anonymous]  

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I don't know why some of these high school polls include the P.G. schools. Having post H.S. players makes you a junior college in my opinion. It would be nice to see a public school only poll as well.


Get used to the not so new reality. The balance of power in H.S. lacrosse nationally has changed dramatically over the past 10 years. Public H.S. lacrosse is an after thought now when talking about the best in the country. Even on Long Island, arguably the last of the Mohicans when it comes to nationally recognized public H.S. lax, there are only maybe 10 towns that matter on the local scene and maybe 5 on the national scene out of dozens of districts that play. And even the best on the Island are two privates. Far cry from what it used to be. Even traditional powers like Manhasset have fallen off the national map because they never schedule the national powers in PA and MD. Beating up on Floral Park and others like it may make the record look good but actually substracts points from their strength of schedule and their standing on a national level. Garden City recognized this years ago and added much more meat to their schedule and therefore remains on the national scene. In fact I would argue that GC's games against out of state national powers have become more important than the Woodstick.


If not the powers in MD and PA because of the budget problems at Manhasset, at least they could schedule Pequa, West Islip, St Ants, Ward Melville etc. That would make them relevant again. There's no excuse if GC has so many powerhouse games on its schedule that Manhasset can't do the same. They are both Nasssau Class B.

#53907 - 03/04/14 09:53 PM Re: Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25 [Re: Anonymous]  

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I don't know why some of these high school polls include the P.G. schools. Having post H.S. players makes you a junior college in my opinion. It would be nice to see a public school only poll as well.


Get used to the not so new reality. The balance of power in H.S. lacrosse nationally has changed dramatically over the past 10 years. Public H.S. lacrosse is an after thought now when talking about the best in the country. Even on Long Island, arguably the last of the Mohicans when it comes to nationally recognized public H.S. lax, there are only maybe 10 towns that matter on the local scene and maybe 5 on the national scene out of dozens of districts that play. And even the best on the Island are two privates. Far cry from what it used to be. Even traditional powers like Manhasset have fallen off the national map because they never schedule the national powers in PA and MD. Beating up on Floral Park and others like it may make the record look good but actually substracts points from their strength of schedule and their standing on a national level. Garden City recognized this years ago and added much more meat to their schedule and therefore remains on the national scene. In fact I would argue that GC's games against out of state national powers have become more important than the Woodstick.


If not the powers in MD and PA because of the budget problems at Manhasset, at least they could schedule Pequa, West Islip, St Ants, Ward Melville etc. That would make them relevant again. There's no excuse if GC has so many powerhouse games on its schedule that Manhasset can't do the same. They are both Nasssau Class B.


Set's last best chance for a while at breaking out of Nassau is this year. Their attack with 1 soph, 1 jr and 1 sr will be very good and their defense will feature 3 strong srs including 2 D1 comits. The middle of the field is a weak link especially w no natural FOGO. Goalie is a question until proven otherwise. Once these seniors graduate its see you later for a while.

#53909 - 03/04/14 10:40 PM Re: Preseason Nike/US Lacrosse HS Boys' Lacrosse National Top 25 [Re: Anonymous]  

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I don't know why some of these high school polls include the P.G. schools. Having post H.S. players makes you a junior college in my opinion. It would be nice to see a public school only poll as well.


Get used to the not so new reality. The balance of power in H.S. lacrosse nationally has changed dramatically over the past 10 years. Public H.S. lacrosse is an after thought now when talking about the best in the country. Even on Long Island, arguably the last of the Mohicans when it comes to nationally recognized public H.S. lax, there are only maybe 10 towns that matter on the local scene and maybe 5 on the national scene out of dozens of districts that play. And even the best on the Island are two privates. Far cry from what it used to be. Even traditional powers like Manhasset have fallen off the national map because they never schedule the national powers in PA and MD. Beating up on Floral Park and others like it may make the record look good but actually substracts points from their strength of schedule and their standing on a national level. Garden City recognized this years ago and added much more meat to their schedule and therefore remains on the national scene. In fact I would argue that GC's games against out of state national powers have become more important than the Woodstick.
. You forget Ward Melville was National Champions in 2013, Garden City in 2012, West Islip in 2010 and 2007. I agree that you will have to play nationally ranked teams to stay relevant. Suffolk "A" is still the best public league in the nation usually with 2-4 top 25 teams. They only have two open dates to schedule out of conference games . One of those dates are usually a nationally ranked top LI Catholic team like Chaminade or a nationally ranked Nassau team like Garden City. West Islip played Ridgewood,NJ every year although I think Mountain Lakes or Summit would have been a better match-up. This year they play Chaminade and Penfield,NY, a good but not great upstate team. I would rather see them play a top public school team like Darien or Ridgefield,CT. or Conestoga,Pa.

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