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Re: Crabs Lacrosse / Baltimore Lacrosse Club
Anonymous #53101 02/14/14 09:15 AM
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[Linked Image] [/quote]this is the second time "sage", a soccer expert, has put up this chart. The first thing that comes to mind is that it is a chart of 2017 players, Freshman. This chart is telling us that before season starts that N.J is taking over as a hotbed over L.I. because, as of February, there is a little over 3% swing in Jerseys' favor in D1 recruiting and he is willing to call this a trend. The other 2 big gainers are Canada and Cali. Canada is no shocker because Lacrosse was the national sport for decades before they changed it to hockey back in the 80's if I'm not mistaken. Cali is a surprise but if you take there 1.4% combined with the other non-traditional, non east coast regions on this list Ohio at -0.7% and colorado -0.1% you come up with a whopping +2.2% gain in freshman recruits in "non traditional" areas as of February. I for one would not consider that a trend until at least that percentage becomes common for high school juniors for at least 2 years. As of today for 2015 recruits the same % from the mentioned areas is about 0.18% . Long Island alone is 0.123%. not exactly a threat [/quote]

With due respect, your post has a few inaccuracies. Lacrosse has never been above hockey in Canada in terms of participation or following. It is accurate that hockey was discovered and played in Thunder Bay Canada nearly a century before hockey was an organized sport in Canada. You are correct that the box game became Canada's secondary winter sport in the 1980's and is immensely popular since.

My point was there is a material edge to the LI, Phila, MD/DC corridor in the 2017 age and up, and that this delta appears to be immaterial at the current U-13s. This corridor includes NJ...my plain error and no slight intended but Northern NJ is I feel part of the NY tri-state cluster and it is not unfair to put Southern NJ and parts of DE in the Philly cluster for simplicity. No slights intended to NJ folk, I meant the NY TO MID ATLANTIC to be a corridor in the comment, nothing more.

Sage correctly pointed out that the dominance of this corridor has been eroding, albiet in small increments, in recent years and the trend showing a lower delta of dominance for the Eastern Atlantic hotbeds is reliable and consistent. The lacrosse world is going rounder each year and that is plainly evident, and I think great for the game.

Instead of the data, use your own two eyes and check out a U-13 tourney bracket of games this Summer. It is astonishing how many great programs and coaches there are in non-hotbeds and how terrific some teams from GA, TX and CA are...among others. People like Liam Banks are changing the game in places like Alabama and Louisiana now.

LI is still fantastic and at a highest quality level. It is a mistake to take any of this as a negative onto LI. Look at it as lacrosse going from an "East Coast prep school" third tier off-the-run sport 10+ years ago at NCAA and HS levels to a "real sport". Wouldn't you feel prouder if LI was a big fish in an ocean rather than a whale stuffed into a mason jar? Game is changing. Be happy.

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Anonymous #53106 02/14/14 10:46 AM
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I nerve said Lacrosse had a larger participation than Hockey, Just that is was the national sport of Canada for decades.

As for the stats, It seems that as of this early date for recruitment for 2017 to say that L.I. influence is on the decline is a bit premature. Without even knowing where this list came from it seems a bit self serving. One thing for sure it did not come out of Laxpower which in my opinion is the only reliable source for recruits.

This being a thread for Maryland I am more surprised about all the negative numbers down your way. You have produced some of the best players to ever play the game. Whats going on down there?

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Anonymous #53108 02/14/14 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I nerve said Lacrosse had a larger participation than Hockey, Just that is was the national sport of Canada for decades.

As for the stats, It seems that as of this early date for recruitment for 2017 to say that L.I. influence is on the decline is a bit premature. Without even knowing where this list came from it seems a bit self serving. One thing for sure it did not come out of Laxpower which in my opinion is the only reliable source for recruits.

This being a thread for Maryland I am more surprised about all the negative numbers down your way. You have produced some of the best players to ever play the game. Whats going on down there?


What is going on down here in MD is the same thing that is going on up there LI. Baltimore is a small city about an hour away from DC (where the #s are going up small). LI has 5x the population of the state of MD. Your %s are goig down by the same delta as a percentage of the basis, or more, as compared to the other hotbed markets, DC excepted.

Get over yourselves a little. The point is valid. Lacrosse dominance in MD, LI and the rest of this corridor is declining. The non-hotbeds are rising. LI and the others will NEVER be the same in terms of figures this dominant.

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Lacrosse dominance in MD, LI and the rest of this corridor is declining. The non-hotbeds are rising. LI and the others will NEVER be the same in terms of figures this dominant.
This precisely captures the point of our original posting. US Lacrosse is clearly more interested in expanding the game nationally than spending time on regulations in already established areas. That mission of expansion will open new areas - and therefore expose many new athletes - to the game of lacrosse.

Unless NCAA Division I programs begin launching and funding lacrosse programs at a faster rate than the expansion plans of US Lacrosse, the pressure on existing hotbeds regions will only increase.

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Anonymous #53223 02/18/14 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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I nerve said Lacrosse had a larger participation than Hockey, Just that is was the national sport of Canada for decades.

As for the stats, It seems that as of this early date for recruitment for 2017 to say that L.I. influence is on the decline is a bit premature. Without even knowing where this list came from it seems a bit self serving. One thing for sure it did not come out of Laxpower which in my opinion is the only reliable source for recruits.

This being a thread for Maryland I am more surprised about all the negative numbers down your way. You have produced some of the best players to ever play the game. Whats going on down there?


What is going on down here in MD is the same thing that is going on up there LI. Baltimore is a small city about an hour away from DC (where the #s are going up small). LI has 5x the population of the state of MD. Your %s are goig down by the same delta as a percentage of the basis, or more, as compared to the other hotbed markets, DC excepted.

Get over yourselves a little. The point is valid. Lacrosse dominance in MD, LI and the rest of this corridor is declining. The non-hotbeds are rising. LI and the others will NEVER be the same in terms of figures this dominant.


I think all-in-all good - as long as the sport continues to grow. Meaning more colleges make lacrosse a major sport. If there was a decline in the hotbeds and the sport became less popular than that would be alarming.

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Anonymous #54895 03/18/14 12:02 PM
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My son is friends with several of the kids on the U15 team. None of the players should be in 10th grade. Would love to know where you get your information.

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CageSage #55464 03/25/14 06:06 PM
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Crabs have a 2021 team? Where do they play?

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CageSage #57048 04/11/14 12:13 PM
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3d coming to maryland and doing an invite only summer high school all star team...they've already picked off a number of the top DC area club players. what team(s) are most affected? madlax, crabs, blackwolf?

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Anonymous #57114 04/12/14 08:18 AM
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Crabs have a 2021 team? Where do they play?


Hoco league

If they played npyll they would have to play u13

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Anonymous #57215 04/14/14 10:54 AM
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2018 Team 91 parent here.

Crabs are a first class organization. Love playing you guys. Too bad we don't play each other more.

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2018 Team 91 parent here.

Crabs are a first class organization. Love playing you guys. Too bad we don't play each other more.


How was the game? Who won?

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Crabs have a 2021 team? Where do they play?


Hoco league

If they played npyll they would have to play u13


Why? 2021 is 11uAA

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Anonymous #57282 04/15/14 05:36 AM
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Because not all fifth graders meet the US Lacrosse birthday cutoff for U11.

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Crabs have a 2021 team? Where do they play?


Hoco league

If they played npyll they would have to play u13


Why? 2021 is 11uAA


Because half of their players are aged for U13A even though they are in 5th grade

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Anonymous #57299 04/15/14 08:57 AM
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Why do you people cry about kids being 1 year older on these teams. We all want our kids to get better and play the best. And guess what when they get to high school they will play kids 3 or 4 years older then them. Get over it. The other funny thing is most of these people on here are the same people who have aged there kid up a level at some point in some league because they wanted them to get better.

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