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Re: 2023 commits
Anonymous #52825 02/09/14 11:15 AM
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Hahaha.....classic!! Isn't it funny how things are going nowadays -- It's funny, I played D1 (late 80s - against Gaits etc) and most guys on my college squad started lax in Junior High and 9th grade (even with the old equipment, late start, lack of tourney's, recruiting showcases and specialty clinics) .....would run circles around many of the 'athletes' of today - I don't know, as with the NFL, NHL etc. - Speaking from a current coaches perspective, the youth of the 60s-80s seem to be a tougher class of kid cool

The glory days always look more magnificent through the bottom of your row of empty pints.



7th grade Kids of today would destroy the Varsity teams of your days gone long by
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Pretty personal and obnoxious reply to a post.


But also accurate, especially in lacrosse. The lacrosse we played on LI when we were 9th to 12th grade, going back 25 years is not even close to the level it is at now. It may be nice to think you were a stud back when, and maybe you could compete in todays game if you attack the sport with dedication of the players today, but very seriously, you can not compare your 1980something Hs championship team to the level of play today.

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Anonymous #52833 02/09/14 02:35 PM
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Sure you can.....physically today's player would
be pummeled. I'm not saying they're not bigger,
Stronger and faster....they are. They're just not
as tough. Toughness goes a long way. Intimidates
players. Makes all those skills of today a whole
lot more tentative......just an observation of today's
athlete.

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Anonymous #52848 02/09/14 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sure you can.....physically today's player would
be pummeled. I'm not saying they're not bigger,
Stronger and faster....they are. They're just not
as tough. Toughness goes a long way. Intimidates
players. Makes all those skills of today a whole
lot more tentative......just an observation of today's
athlete.


Toughness then, as it is now, equates to aggressiveness which usually is displayed by weaker skill set players in the face of superior skills, as any well traveled long island club parent will tell you.
When the true age kids of Long Island play the reclassifieds of Md and Virginia etc; the older reclassifieds typically are playing where they are as their skills did not or could not match up with those of their peers. Thus the reclassified status. This aggression or "toughness" is relied upon and is inversely proportional to their lack of skills. The kids of Long Island who typically play up usually get much aggression from those who have to play down, as they still don't measure up skill wise. The only advantage they have is size and physical maturity.

Therefore, "the kids were tougher yesteryear" theory doesn't hold up and is typically an anecdotal glory days recollection that just isn't accurate.

And based on the results of the "skilled kids" playing the "tougher kids"; I'd say that the intimidation factor is also null and void.

Your argument thus is baseless as are your observations of today's athletes.

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Anonymous #52852 02/09/14 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sure you can.....physically today's player would
be pummeled. I'm not saying they're not bigger,
Stronger and faster....they are. They're just not
as tough. Toughness goes a long way. Intimidates
players. Makes all those skills of today a whole
lot more tentative......just an observation of today's
athlete.


If you were talking football, baseball or any other sport that has not progressed too much in last 25 years I would agree with you. The game of lacrosse has changed radically from our days, I watch in amazement at the talent and speed of todays kids. You seriously think that those old teams could compete with the modern day teams because of toughness? I like your fighting attitude, but you are delusional.

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Anonymous #52861 02/09/14 08:36 PM
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I'm not talking about talent. Any fool can see
today's lax players are much more talented.
But the older generation of players hit much,
much, much more than today. I think that would be a
great equalizer. That turns a skilled player into
a timid player......in any sport.

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Anonymous #52862 02/09/14 08:43 PM
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What????? You obviously never played lax or
any other contact sport. Physical play can win
over skilled play sometimes. Get knocked around
enough and skills turns into jitters. Again not always
but sometimes it works. And there is NOTHING
wrong with playing that style. The object is to win.
As long as it's not dirty, just win baby.

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Anonymous #52863 02/09/14 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not talking about talent. Any fool can see
today's lax players are much more talented.
But the older generation of players hit much,
much, much more than today. I think that would be a
great equalizer. That turns a skilled player into
a timid player......in any sport.


Ponderous....simply ponderous.

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Anonymous #52952 02/11/14 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Hahaha.....classic!! Isn't it funny how things are going nowadays -- It's funny, I played D1 (late 80s - against Gaits etc) and most guys on my college squad started lax in Junior High and 9th grade (even with the old equipment, late start, lack of tourney's, recruiting showcases and specialty clinics) .....would run circles around many of the 'athletes' of today - I don't know, as with the NFL, NHL etc. - Speaking from a current coaches perspective, the youth of the 60s-80s seem to be a tougher class of kid cool

The glory days always look more magnificent through the bottom of your row of empty pints.

7th grade Kids of today would destroy the Varsity teams of your days gone long by
:-)


7th graders going up against 12th graders??? Maybe the above poster isn't the one drinking too many brews

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Anonymous #53014 02/12/14 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Hahaha.....classic!! Isn't it funny how things are going nowadays -- It's funny, I played D1 (late 80s - against Gaits etc) and most guys on my college squad started lax in Junior High and 9th grade (even with the old equipment, late start, lack of tourney's, recruiting showcases and specialty clinics) .....would run circles around many of the 'athletes' of today - I don't know, as with the NFL, NHL etc. - Speaking from a current coaches perspective, the youth of the 60s-80s seem to be a tougher class of kid cool

The glory days always look more magnificent through the bottom of your row of empty pints.

7th grade Kids of today would destroy the Varsity teams of your days gone long by
:-)


7th graders going up against 12th graders??? Maybe the above poster isn't the one drinking too many brews


Clearly you have not seen the Turtles or Dukes or crabs kids of the 2017 class do just that on the reg as they say.

Is it any wonder that these same teams comprise the largest total of the current 2017 commits to D1 programs.

Take your face out of the pitcher and wipe the suds from your unseeing and reluctant to believe what you're seeing eyes behold.

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Anonymous #53016 02/12/14 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sure you can.....physically today's player would
be pummeled. I'm not saying they're not bigger,
Stronger and faster....they are. They're just not
as tough. Toughness goes a long way. Intimidates
players. Makes all those skills of today a whole
lot more tentative......just an observation of today's
athlete.


Toughness then, as it is now, equates to aggressiveness which usually is displayed by weaker skill set players in the face of superior skills, as any well traveled long island club parent will tell you.
When the true age kids of Long Island play the reclassifieds of Md and Virginia etc; the older reclassifieds typically are playing where they are as their skills did not or could not match up with those of their peers. Thus the reclassified status. This aggression or "toughness" is relied upon and is inversely proportional to their lack of skills. The kids of Long Island who typically play up usually get much aggression from those who have to play down, as they still don't measure up skill wise. The only advantage they have is size and physical maturity.

Therefore, "the kids were tougher yesteryear" theory doesn't hold up and is typically an anecdotal glory days recollection that just isn't accurate.

And based on the results of the "skilled kids" playing the "tougher kids"; I'd say that the intimidation factor is also null and void.

Your argument thus is baseless as are your observations of today's athletes.


... said the guy who bet on the Broncos over the Seahawks.

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Anonymous #53021 02/12/14 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sure you can.....physically today's player would
be pummeled. I'm not saying they're not bigger,
Stronger and faster....they are. They're just not
as tough. Toughness goes a long way. Intimidates
players. Makes all those skills of today a whole
lot more tentative......just an observation of today's
athlete.


Toughness then, as it is now, equates to aggressiveness which usually is displayed by weaker skill set players in the face of superior skills, as any well traveled long island club parent will tell you.
When the true age kids of Long Island play the reclassifieds of Md and Virginia etc; the older reclassifieds typically are playing where they are as their skills did not or could not match up with those of their peers. Thus the reclassified status. This aggression or "toughness" is relied upon and is inversely proportional to their lack of skills. The kids of Long Island who typically play up usually get much aggression from those who have to play down, as they still don't measure up skill wise. The only advantage they have is size and physical maturity.

Therefore, "the kids were tougher yesteryear" theory doesn't hold up and is typically an anecdotal glory days recollection that just isn't accurate.

And based on the results of the "skilled kids" playing the "tougher kids"; I'd say that the intimidation factor is also null and void.

Your argument thus is baseless as are your observations of today's athletes.


... said the guy who bet on the Broncos over the Seahawks.


Yes...the guy who bet on them to lose to the Seahawks and made a nice little return!


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Anonymous #53025 02/13/14 07:40 AM
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Please tell us your are not serious. I know a lot
of the turtles players personally. As skilled and
great lax players as they are, they would get
Beat up physically by a varsity team. Stop putting
them up there. Not mature enough to handle
It. I know you'll say they beat some already,
Most of those varsity teams had their players playing
Varsity football or Varsity soccer. Not freshmen
football and freshmen soccer. Big difference.
So please stop with this nonsense already. They
Are GREAT 2017 players. And that's the class they
should be compared to.

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Anonymous #53028 02/13/14 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please tell us your are not serious. I know a lot
of the turtles players personally. As skilled and
great lax players as they are, they would get
Beat up physically by a varsity team. Stop putting
them up there. Not mature enough to handle
It. I know you'll say they beat some already,
Most of those varsity teams had their players playing
Varsity football or Varsity soccer. Not freshmen
football and freshmen soccer. Big difference.
So please stop with this nonsense already. They
Are GREAT 2017 players. And that's the class they
should be compared to.



Interesting point and I wholeheartedly agree. However, and to your point, aren't colleges taking risks by committing to these kids? Somebody stated that best players now will be the best players in 4 years and I don't agree with that.

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Anonymous #53030 02/13/14 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please tell us your are not serious. I know a lot
of the turtles players personally. As skilled and
great lax players as they are, they would get
Beat up physically by a varsity team. Stop putting
them up there. Not mature enough to handle
It. I know you'll say they beat some already,
Most of those varsity teams had their players playing
Varsity football or Varsity soccer. Not freshmen
football and freshmen soccer. Big difference.
So please stop with this nonsense already. They
Are GREAT 2017 players. And that's the class they
should be compared to.


They may get a physical game from a modern varsity program and games would be close. They would run circles around your varsity team from yesteryear.

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Anonymous #53031 02/13/14 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please tell us your are not serious. I know a lot
of the turtles players personally. As skilled and
great lax players as they are, they would get
Beat up physically by a varsity team. Stop putting
them up there. Not mature enough to handle
It. I know you'll say they beat some already,
Most of those varsity teams had their players playing
Varsity football or Varsity soccer. Not freshmen
football and freshmen soccer. Big difference.
So please stop with this nonsense already. They
Are GREAT 2017 players. And that's the class they
should be compared to.


They may get a physical game from a modern varsity program and games would be close. They would run circles around your varsity team from yesteryear.


The games would not be close, and Turtles will not be starting on varsity unless they come from a weak school district. They do not look anywhere as skilled as everyone thinks when versing a decent varsity team.

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