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Isn't a scholarship a year to year contract?
Yes, in most equivalency sports, athletics scholarships are a year-to-year affair. Reports are starting to emerge (mostly from soccer) of multi-year agreements being used, but those are generally reserved for non-equivalency sports (football, basketball).
In my sons verbal agreement, it was made abundantly clear that it is a four year deal!The only way the scholarship would change would be due to academic failure or not showing up to practice etc. Not based on performance. It was said that the scholarship can only increase if he does really well. I should also point out that at some of the other schools we made visits to, and considered, the scholarship would be revaluated each year.
As we stated, multi-year agreements are starting to emerge and are not the rule in equivalency sports, but the exception at this time.

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According to Inside Lacrosse, there are now 38 "public commits" for the 2017 class. My guess is that there are several more that are not yet public. The following clubs now have the most commits so far (I know it is not a race so no comments please): Dukes (5), LI Express - includes Terps Black and Turtles combined (4), Crabs (3), 3D National (3), MaxLax (3), VLC (3). Team 91 has 2 who were both former Turtles. I also realize that many of the Ivy's need to still be under the radar at this point becuase of Academic Index, etc. Not judging, just reporting what is out there in the public domain.


Realistically, probably 50 something commits out there. Very fast pace and not slowing down.

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According to Inside Lacrosse, there are now 38 "public commits" for the 2017 class. My guess is that there are several more that are not yet public. The following clubs now have the most commits so far (I know it is not a race so no comments please): Dukes (5), LI Express - includes Terps Black and Turtles combined (4), Crabs (3), 3D National (3), MaxLax (3), VLC (3). Team 91 has 2 who were both former Turtles. I also realize that many of the Ivy's need to still be under the radar at this point becuase of Academic Index, etc. Not judging, just reporting what is out there in the public domain.


Who cares if they were former Turtles, they committed playing for 91! Strange that you would point that out. The real question is why did they leave the Turtles ??

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According to Inside Lacrosse, there are now 38 "public commits" for the 2017 class. My guess is that there are several more that are not yet public. The following clubs now have the most commits so far (I know it is not a race so no comments please): Dukes (5), LI Express - includes Terps Black and Turtles combined (4), Crabs (3), 3D National (3), MaxLax (3), VLC (3). Team 91 has 2 who were both former Turtles. I also realize that many of the Ivy's need to still be under the radar at this point becuase of Academic Index, etc. Not judging, just reporting what is out there in the public domain.


Who cares if they were former Turtles, they committed playing for 91! Strange that you would point that out. The real question is why did they leave the Turtles ??


Apparently hit a nerve, wasn't trying to.

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As a parent of a younger boy I am less interested about why they left and more interested in which club they were with during their developmental years. If there is commonality between u11/u13 teams and eventual d1 commitment that is valuable information.

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As a parent of a younger boy I am less interested about why they left and more interested in which club they were with during their developmental years. If there is commonality between u11/u13 teams and eventual d1 commitment that is valuable information.


Or maybe the Turtles held them back, and they were noticed when they were actually aloud to play at true potential!

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Reality is the attackman from CSH was going to get his even if he played for Average Joe's Gym and the D-man played 1 year with the Turtles he also played 1 year for the Tomahawks.

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As a parent of a younger boy I am less interested about why they left and more interested in which club they were with during their developmental years. If there is commonality between u11/u13 teams and eventual d1 commitment that is valuable information.


Or maybe the Turtles held them back, and they were noticed when they were actually aloud to play at true potential!


I'm sure that week on 91 really unlocked it. I'm pretty sure they were both mvp of an individual showcase. makes perfect sense

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2 more 2017s off the table today to Penn State, one from Smithtown. 3 yesterday to Maryland, Penn State, Syracuse

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Tribalax
Isn't a scholarship a year to year contract?
Yes, in most equivalency sports, athletics scholarships are a year-to-year affair. Reports are starting to emerge (mostly from soccer) of multi-year agreements being used, but those are generally reserved for non-equivalency sports (football, basketball).


In my sons verbal agreement, it was made abundantly clear that it is a four year deal!The only way the scholarship would change would be due to academic failure or not showing up to practice etc. Not based on performance. It was said that the scholarship can only increase if he does really well. I should also point out that at some of the other schools we made visits to, and considered, the scholarship would be revaluated each year.


Does your son need to maintain a certain gpa? If so wouldn't it be considered an academic scholarship? What division is your son playing in? And what school did he decide on? Just curious because it is extremely out of the ordinary for a lax scholarship to commit to a spot for that amount of time.

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Originally Posted by Tribalax
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Isn't a scholarship a year to year contract?
Yes, in most equivalency sports, athletics scholarships are a year-to-year affair. Reports are starting to emerge (mostly from soccer) of multi-year agreements being used, but those are generally reserved for non-equivalency sports (football, basketball).


In my sons verbal agreement, it was made abundantly clear that it is a four year deal!The only way the scholarship would change would be due to academic failure or not showing up to practice etc. Not based on performance. It was said that the scholarship can only increase if he does really well. I should also point out that at some of the other schools we made visits to, and considered, the scholarship would be revaluated each year.


Does your son need to maintain a certain gpa? If so wouldn't it be considered an academic scholarship? What division is your son playing in? And what school did he decide on? Just curious because it is extremely out of the ordinary for a lax scholarship to commit to a spot for that amount of time.


D1 CAA school, Top 20 lax. GPA is minimum for the school, for any student attending, I'm basically saying he can't be flunking out. It is a athletic sholarship.

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Wow that's awesome! Must be a good student athlete. I wish him all the success. You don't hear of things like that to often.

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Wow that's awesome! Must be a good student athlete. I wish him all the success. You don't hear of things like that to often.


Thank you, he works very hard, and is under much pressure to continue to perform to his reputation, a source of much stress for our family. Success is a two edged sword !

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Great point! It sounds like exciting times for your son! And maybe early retirement for you!
The unfortunate fact is ugly jealousy that comes from the most unusual suspects

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Any LI teams planning on attending the new recruiting event sponsored by IL this summer? Looks like it could be one of the best, as they are so well connected.

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Chaminade Freshman tryouts started yesterday with timed runs, was told by my son and his friends that I picked up and drove home, that some boys are so desperate to make the team they lied about their times. This is what you get at a Catholic school?

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Chaminade Freshman tryouts started yesterday with timed runs, was told by my son and his friends that I picked up and drove home, that some boys are so desperate to make the team they lied about their times. This is what you get at a Catholic school?


Seriously? Do you really think that certain aspects of human nature disappear because someone attends Catholic school? Whenever the stakes are high; no matter what, where, and when, then some will game.

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Chaminade Freshman tryouts started yesterday with timed runs, was told by my son and his friends that I picked up and drove home, that some boys are so desperate to make the team they lied about their times. This is what you get at a Catholic school?


what are the runs they had to do and what are the times they had to attain?

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Chaminade Freshman tryouts started yesterday with timed runs, was told by my son and his friends that I picked up and drove home, that some boys are so desperate to make the team they lied about their times. This is what you get at a Catholic school?


what are the runs they had to do and what are the times they had to attain?


Lying at a Catholic School tryout....that may get you on the team but it isn't getting you past the Pearly Gates! They will forever be banished to fresh/soph

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the coaches are there timing.... more bs unbelivable

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Chaminade Freshman tryouts started yesterday with timed runs, was told by my son and his friends that I picked up and drove home, that some boys are so desperate to make the team they lied about their times. This is what you get at a Catholic school?
My son told me the same thing, I thought it was a joke. If my son and these other boys picked up on it I would hope the coaches did also.

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Coaches wrote down what the players told them. Thats not BS thats fact.

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Chaminade Freshman tryouts started yesterday with timed runs, was told by my son and his friends that I picked up and drove home, that some boys are so desperate to make the team they lied about their times. This is what you get at a Catholic school?


Seriously? Do you really think that certain aspects of human nature disappear because someone attends Catholic school? Whenever the stakes are high; no matter what, where, and when, then some will game.


Ita like saying your a good person because you go to church.

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My son told me the the same thing. One coach was outside giving the boys their times, they then would give the times to another coach, yes some seem to have given lower times.

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Don't the JR slots come out today from blue chip?

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Just got it.

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Same here.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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As a parent of a younger boy I am less interested about why they left and more interested in which club they were with during their developmental years. If there is commonality between u11/u13 teams and eventual d1 commitment that is valuable information.


Or maybe the Turtles held them back, and they were noticed when they were actually aloud to play at true potential!

allowed... YOU'RE #s are off. Wizard......

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As a parent of a younger boy I am less interested about why they left and more interested in which club they were with during their developmental years. If there is commonality between u11/u13 teams and eventual d1 commitment that is valuable information.


Or maybe the Turtles held them back, and they were noticed when they were actually aloud to play at true potential!

allowed... YOU'RE #s are off. Wizard......


What #s?

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to Inside Lacrosse, there are now 38 "public commits" for the 2017 class. My guess is that there are several more that are not yet public. The following clubs now have the most commits so far (I know it is not a race so no comments please): Dukes (5), LI Express - includes Terps Black and Turtles combined (4), Crabs (3), 3D National (3), MaxLax (3), VLC (3). Team 91 has 2 who were both former Turtles. I also realize that many of the Ivy's need to still be under the radar at this point becuase of Academic Index, etc. Not judging, just reporting what is out there in the public domain.

These #s are off. Sorry

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to Inside Lacrosse, there are now 38 "public commits" for the 2017 class. My guess is that there are several more that are not yet public. The following clubs now have the most commits so far (I know it is not a race so no comments please): Dukes (5), LI Express - includes Terps Black and Turtles combined (4), Crabs (3), 3D National (3), MaxLax (3), VLC (3). Team 91 has 2 who were both former Turtles. I also realize that many of the Ivy's need to still be under the radar at this point becuase of Academic Index, etc. Not judging, just reporting what is out there in the public domain.

These #s are off. Sorry

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to Inside Lacrosse, there are now 38 "public commits" for the 2017 class. My guess is that there are several more that are not yet public. The following clubs now have the most commits so far (I know it is not a race so no comments please): Dukes (5), LI Express - includes Terps Black and Turtles combined (4), Crabs (3), 3D National (3), MaxLax (3), VLC (3). Team 91 has 2 who were both former Turtles. I also realize that many of the Ivy's need to still be under the radar at this point becuase of Academic Index, etc. Not judging, just reporting what is out there in the public domain.

These #s are off. Sorry
Uh sorry, no they were not at the time this was posted. Pretty straightforward actually. Go to Inside Lacrosse forums (recruiting forum 2017 commit list), look at public commits for 2017s, look at club web pages or articles about commits and it is very easy to piece together. The # of commits has changed a bit since my original post a few weeks ago (which you are replying to now as if it is wrong?) as there have been more commits. In terms of non-public commits who knows, but the info above is accurate at the time it was posted and again look it up before saying it is wrong. For example, go to the Crabs page and you will see 4 public commits/ Dukes/Big 4 5, etc.

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The Chaminade 2017 lax Roster will look like an All Star team...

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The Chaminade 2017 lax Roster will look like an All Star team...


uhh, is this a new thing? Chaminade and St. ants look that way every year. St Ants has 18 D1 recruits this year... Nothing new for these two programs.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Chaminade 2017 lax Roster will look like an All Star team...


Will Chaminade play any 2017s up - either JV or Varsity or all freshman on freshman team no matter what given depth in other grades.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Chaminade 2017 lax Roster will look like an All Star team...


Who cares?

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Yes you have the cheater that repeated 8th grade last year,

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Agree...that is wrong. Repeating 8th grade? As a Chaminade graduate I am disappointed in the school for taking a kid who does that.

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The Chaminade 2017 lax Roster will look like an All Star team...


Starts Freshman Year: 100+ kids trying out for 40 dedicated frosh spots. And it only gets harder and more competitive from there......

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