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Re: Boys 2017 Fall 2013/Summer 2014
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Every BCS football player is on a 5 year ride. The money is there to do it, and that is the difference.
Remember that BCS Football (in NCAA Division I) is a non-equivilency sport. Translated, that means that football scholarships are all or nothing : there are no partial scholarships in football permitted by NCAA guidelines. So, it is a mistake to think about football scholarships in the same way that you would consider soccer or lacrosse scholarships.

The NCAA allows for 85 scholarship positions for a fully funded NCAA Division I team. If a fifth year student has a fourth (or extra) year of eligibility and the football program chooses to scholarship that player for their fifth year, that comes at the cost of an incoming freshman player being on a scholarship or at the cost of a mid-classman being cut.

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According to Inside Lacrosse, there are now 38 "public commits" for the 2017 class. My guess is that there are several more that are not yet public. The following clubs now have the most commits so far (I know it is not a race so no comments please): Dukes (5), LI Express - includes Terps Black and Turtles combined (4), Crabs (3), 3D National (3), MaxLax (3), VLC (3). Team 91 has 2 who were both former Turtles. I also realize that many of the Ivy's need to still be under the radar at this point becuase of Academic Index, etc. Not judging, just reporting what is out there in the public domain.

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Isn't a scholarship a year to year contract?

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Isn't a scholarship a year to year contract?
Yes, in most equivalency sports, athletics scholarships are a year-to-year affair. Reports are starting to emerge (mostly from soccer) of multi-year agreements being used, but those are generally reserved for non-equivalency sports (football, basketball).

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Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Tribalax
Isn't a scholarship a year to year contract?
Yes, in most equivalency sports, athletics scholarships are a year-to-year affair. Reports are starting to emerge (mostly from soccer) of multi-year agreements being used, but those are generally reserved for non-equivalency sports (football, basketball).


In my sons verbal agreement, it was made abundantly clear that it is a four year deal!The only way the scholarship would change would be due to academic failure or not showing up to practice etc. Not based on performance. It was said that the scholarship can only increase if he does really well. I should also point out that at some of the other schools we made visits to, and considered, the scholarship would be revaluated each year.

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Isn't a scholarship a year to year contract?
Yes, in most equivalency sports, athletics scholarships are a year-to-year affair. Reports are starting to emerge (mostly from soccer) of multi-year agreements being used, but those are generally reserved for non-equivalency sports (football, basketball).
In my sons verbal agreement, it was made abundantly clear that it is a four year deal!The only way the scholarship would change would be due to academic failure or not showing up to practice etc. Not based on performance. It was said that the scholarship can only increase if he does really well. I should also point out that at some of the other schools we made visits to, and considered, the scholarship would be revaluated each year.
As we stated, multi-year agreements are starting to emerge and are not the rule in equivalency sports, but the exception at this time.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to Inside Lacrosse, there are now 38 "public commits" for the 2017 class. My guess is that there are several more that are not yet public. The following clubs now have the most commits so far (I know it is not a race so no comments please): Dukes (5), LI Express - includes Terps Black and Turtles combined (4), Crabs (3), 3D National (3), MaxLax (3), VLC (3). Team 91 has 2 who were both former Turtles. I also realize that many of the Ivy's need to still be under the radar at this point becuase of Academic Index, etc. Not judging, just reporting what is out there in the public domain.


Realistically, probably 50 something commits out there. Very fast pace and not slowing down.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to Inside Lacrosse, there are now 38 "public commits" for the 2017 class. My guess is that there are several more that are not yet public. The following clubs now have the most commits so far (I know it is not a race so no comments please): Dukes (5), LI Express - includes Terps Black and Turtles combined (4), Crabs (3), 3D National (3), MaxLax (3), VLC (3). Team 91 has 2 who were both former Turtles. I also realize that many of the Ivy's need to still be under the radar at this point becuase of Academic Index, etc. Not judging, just reporting what is out there in the public domain.


Who cares if they were former Turtles, they committed playing for 91! Strange that you would point that out. The real question is why did they leave the Turtles ??

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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According to Inside Lacrosse, there are now 38 "public commits" for the 2017 class. My guess is that there are several more that are not yet public. The following clubs now have the most commits so far (I know it is not a race so no comments please): Dukes (5), LI Express - includes Terps Black and Turtles combined (4), Crabs (3), 3D National (3), MaxLax (3), VLC (3). Team 91 has 2 who were both former Turtles. I also realize that many of the Ivy's need to still be under the radar at this point becuase of Academic Index, etc. Not judging, just reporting what is out there in the public domain.


Who cares if they were former Turtles, they committed playing for 91! Strange that you would point that out. The real question is why did they leave the Turtles ??


Apparently hit a nerve, wasn't trying to.

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As a parent of a younger boy I am less interested about why they left and more interested in which club they were with during their developmental years. If there is commonality between u11/u13 teams and eventual d1 commitment that is valuable information.

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As a parent of a younger boy I am less interested about why they left and more interested in which club they were with during their developmental years. If there is commonality between u11/u13 teams and eventual d1 commitment that is valuable information.


Or maybe the Turtles held them back, and they were noticed when they were actually aloud to play at true potential!

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Reality is the attackman from CSH was going to get his even if he played for Average Joe's Gym and the D-man played 1 year with the Turtles he also played 1 year for the Tomahawks.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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As a parent of a younger boy I am less interested about why they left and more interested in which club they were with during their developmental years. If there is commonality between u11/u13 teams and eventual d1 commitment that is valuable information.


Or maybe the Turtles held them back, and they were noticed when they were actually aloud to play at true potential!


I'm sure that week on 91 really unlocked it. I'm pretty sure they were both mvp of an individual showcase. makes perfect sense

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2 more 2017s off the table today to Penn State, one from Smithtown. 3 yesterday to Maryland, Penn State, Syracuse

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Isn't a scholarship a year to year contract?
Yes, in most equivalency sports, athletics scholarships are a year-to-year affair. Reports are starting to emerge (mostly from soccer) of multi-year agreements being used, but those are generally reserved for non-equivalency sports (football, basketball).


In my sons verbal agreement, it was made abundantly clear that it is a four year deal!The only way the scholarship would change would be due to academic failure or not showing up to practice etc. Not based on performance. It was said that the scholarship can only increase if he does really well. I should also point out that at some of the other schools we made visits to, and considered, the scholarship would be revaluated each year.


Does your son need to maintain a certain gpa? If so wouldn't it be considered an academic scholarship? What division is your son playing in? And what school did he decide on? Just curious because it is extremely out of the ordinary for a lax scholarship to commit to a spot for that amount of time.

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