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lol….please… don’t start that conversation on this age yet. It exhaustively gets covered over 100s of replies.

Maybe so. But only if you allow yourself to be put in that position. This is not complicated. If the experience is bad then move on. There was a lot of bad lacrosse this fall in my opinion. And there is no reason to think those teams will improve. So why stay on as you say “fodder”. So move on to another team that is looking for players. Start by practicing with the team and get the free look. Some clubs definitely do that.

Express East 32 need a few players. Anyone looking for a home should contact the coach

Great opportunity for somebody looking for a team for their son. If you’re really dissatisfied with this past fall, look around now. Don’t waste a summer and relive the fall.

Looking for a home now means team isn’t good iimo

Or the team is just starting because of interest and doing it correctly vs shoving a product on the field that isn’t ready, which drives me nuts. Hence the money grab on travel.

Top team for this year?

Orange Crush Syracuse…but there are a handful of teams at the top.

91 likely. The teams that dominated 2-4th grade will begin to level. Unfortunately these 2nd tier clubs struggle to hang onto players. 91, Legacy combo, Express will all be the top 3 eventually. And those are the clubs that have the highest amount of recruits.

91 is a joke at this age…yes when they reclass and pull in out of state they might be relevant. They don’t even play in good tournaments right now because they know that.

Saw a very talented 91 Valor team at Battle in the Barn this past weekend. They will be competing with the Yeti Wolves for top LI team in the spring.

91 Valor isn’t competing with Yeti outside - laughable

Valor never plays top teams …
Kids and coaches left and more will leave this year

So confident...lol
This quote will come back to bite ya my man

Valor didn’t play any decent teams in the fall. They barely won against no-name teams in box. They have to actually get on the field with some good teams before anyone can say they are competitive with the top LI teams.

Rebels archers are far above the rest

Valor can absolutely play with Igloo outside. Nice to see Igloo play hot potato with the ball down 1 with 30 seconds left in box game.

It did look like Yeti needed a field to run away from the Valor.

Big changes coming after this season, there will be a new powerhouse to deal with

Are you talking about top kids from the lower level AA teams migrating to Express? Or something else?

C’mon. Stop. The OGs don’t stick around and they don’t play in the proper events in the HS years. NAL, NLF, Alliance and Naptown. Those are the premier events imho and where teams that say they are best should play. Otherwise, c’mon. It’s 91, Express, Legacy and S2S (and igloo) are seemingly with the best recruits every year. However, if this club journey is for fun and enjoyment vs an end game of recruitment, no need to club switch. Hopefully, it can be a great and fun experience and in 5 years time the recruitment comes as a bonus. But I have been doing this a long time and the club you play means a lot.

lol love the rumors
Rebels having a 4th team

Pre-season rankings
1. Legacy Yeti
2. Rebels Archers
3. 91 Valor
4. Mooselax Orange
5. Express O’Connell
6. Jesters
7. Shore Frogmen
8. True Blue
9. Rebels East
10. 91 Atlas

*Yeti and Rebels will go back and forth for top team and above the rest
*91 and Express dark horses, both will have strong summers, will establish the 2nd tier
*Moose, Jesters and Shore will battle for the 3rd tier
*The others the 4th tier with True Blue most likely to make a move up

All of these posts about 91 Valor being terrible will not age well

Archers, Seahawks, Grizzlies & Arrows.They are all 2032 teams.

Arrows are now just Sachem..no longer a Rebels team

Great showing by NE select this weekend!
Dominated!!!!

Correct. They started a club/town team. But those rarely have any sustainable success for a variety of reasons. Play club and do a few events together like most towns. Because AA players should play on top teams and A/B players should find their travel level. There is more value in that. You want kids to play with different players and hear from a different coaching voice. Then everyone meets up in HS.

Lax fans. You would all be making a mistake to think 91 and Express won’t be top level teams eventually. Are upstart clubs like Moose, Rebels and Jesters putting out great teams at this age, yes. And did Igloo and Legacy make an interesting move to become AA, yes. But 91 and Express pull in national talent by middle school. They likely don't heavily recruit for it, it comes their way because of the clubs they are. And I have seen it happen over and over. The US Club rankings mean something to clubs from a brand perspective. Look at the 2029 rankings that just came out.

What clubs do the best kids from NE Select play for?

Express is a joke they just keep pulling kids down to win

I agree with your statement…when it no longer becomes about Long Island and the reclasses come in they will be good. The conversation was about this year and 91 valor will not compete on a field with the top 10 teams in the country this year. They should come to a decent tournament and try to play some competition. They had one of the weakest schedules in club lacrosse in the Fall. But you are right that when age no longer matters in 9th grade they will be relevant again. The only problem will be 70% of the current team will be playing somewhere else.

NE Select was in some battles down there. thought they were gonna get upset a few times watching them .

I love how 91 and Express keep bragging about how they will dominate in 3-5 years once they replace the current roster with reclasses and national talent. Never mention development. Which is the only thing parents reading this thread care about.

The message above just reads - Ok we agree our current team isn't the best. We dont care, we are just sucking as much money as we can from younger teams by finding parents willing to overpay for a brand name. Current roster will be replaced when it matters.

Don't know how the management or coaches (or whoever keeps posting about future dominance) can be so tone-deaf.

Yes so sign up for 91 and Express now. Pay that tuition and fool hotel fees and travel the country for tournaments playing other teams from Long Island. Spend that money! Then when you can finally benefit from being on those 2 teams the coaches kid will start or some fly in double reclass from Florida will start over your kid. All the clubs can get your kid recruited but everyone will sign over their kids happiness to play on the top 2. Trust me the top two will empty your wallet with pay to play practices, tournaments out of state on holiday weekends . Now S2S is in on it too. Director is coaching at LuHi hoping to get his hands on some reclassed there.

Nobody cares about NE Select!

Looked up the definition of "Money Grab" in the dictionary: noun informal - A 5th grade National lacrosse team.

US Lacrosse finally realizes it’s a joke too and separates these rankings now. If you are into spending your New Years Every year in Florida for a small fortune, have at it!!

NE Select kids are realizing the national lacrosse events are all a money grab, national lacrosse rosters will thin out as they get older as families realize it’s a waste of time

Did the Valor team bring any 31's to the Barn Battle? Not saying that would cheating, it was a 31/32 tournament. Just curious if that was the pure Valor team we can expect this spring.

Yup. Complete money grab. But they will always find someone who has a ton of money to waste and FOMO. Combine that with money grab tourneys like the circuit and you will have plenty of kids lining up. I finally realized that all these clubs (91, Rebels, Igloo etc) use these national teams as a hammerhead to recruit out of state players to their Long Island teams.