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It’s amazing how good a team can look when they’re playing against a struggling goalie.

Struggling? How about not that good and a terrible teammate to go with it. Lawrenceville won't put up with his @ChillLaxin for long and he'll hit the bench and they won't miss a beat.

He will be benched before first game and that will be that

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Next Level started 2 girls against Machine and still beat them. The densest argument of sports is "we’re missing key players btw." No one cares. Machine had every single top player including the hot shot Lawrenceville goalie who didn't have a save until the last few minutes. The reason why NL was ranked 9 is because they beat everyone below them, don't play cupcakes and gave the teams ranked above them competitive games. 7 of the 9 teams ranked above them are supersquads from huge regional areas and multiple teams. It's a testament to what is basically a rec team where 25 out of the 26 players live within 10 miles of the practice field. All credit to Machine parents though, they were shocked but complementary as they stood around saying "who is next level."

So the Machine goalie had a bad game, and the team didn’t take NL seriously. That explains a lot. Thanks.

This summer NL lost the following games to teams ranked below them…

Mad Dog West (ranked 23)
Mad Dog Gold (ranked 41)
2 Way (ranked 22)
Shore 2 Shore (ranked 20)
Team 10 (ranked 16)
Leading Edge (ranked 15)

Most of these games weren’t even close. I get that the rankings are not exact, but every team between 10 and 20 should be ranked above them. And others as well.

And beat 2 Way
And beat Shore 2 Shore.

Whatever, take it up with USCL. Now do that same deep dive with the other teams and see what you come up wih. Maybe if those other teams could keep their rosters together instead of the players scattered around playing for a bunch of supersquads, they'd do better. I'm sorry a rec team beat Machine but maybe your gripe is with them.

2 Way and S2S beat NL the last times they played.

NL is a fine team, but by no means above Hawks, Crabs and ML. Their record certainly doesn’t reflect it. Hawks and Crabs have no great wins, but no ugly losses like NL and ML. In truth, they are probably all on about the same level. NL just happens to be ranked higher than they should be.

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It’s amazing how good a team can look when they’re playing against a struggling goalie.

Struggling? How about not that good and a terrible teammate to go with it. Lawrenceville won't put up with his @ChillLaxin for long and he'll hit the bench and they won't miss a beat.

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NL folks had to be happy with the results this weekend, right?
Also, what is up with FCA in this age group? I saw they struggled this weekend against teams I assumed they were better than, anybody know anything about them?

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Was impressed with DC Express’s win against the Hawks.

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Last game for DC Express not good though. Never heard really of Team Ten. What high schools are their kids from? Are they that good or did DC Express play that bad?

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Yes, you have but I'll bite. Team Ten is from Philly and primarily feeds to the Philly Inter-AC with teams like Malvern. Their lacrosse is primarily fed by very old holdbacks and not just summer birthday holdbacks. Team ten is one of the 5 best true lax clubs, not all-star teams, in the country at this age.

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Team Ten is a solid Top 25 team out of Philly area. When they have everyone playing, they are very very strong.

DCE is vastly improved, but I think the Hawks win is still an outlier. Hawks (and Crabs) seem a little down lately, but I still think Hawks win 8-9 games in a 10-game series with DCE.

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My boy's team played Team Ten yesterday. They played a lot of kids also so they are very deep as well. I was impressed honestly. They were strong at every line and very athletic kids.

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My boy's team played Team Ten yesterday. They played a lot of kids also so they are very deep as well. I was impressed honestly. They were strong at every line and very athletic kids.

If your team is loaded with holdbacks, it is, if not, well it is what it is.

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Team Maryland White has a very strong underrated team for this 27 age group.

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Team Maryland White has a very strong underrated team for this 27 age group.

Not very familiar with them. Who have they played?

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My boy's team played Team Ten yesterday. They played a lot of kids also so they are very deep as well. I was impressed honestly. They were strong at every line and very athletic kids.

If your team is loaded with holdbacks, it is, if not, well it is what it is.

Yes, those boys were clearly developmentally a year or two older. They were pretty violent players too when it was not necessary. Regardless, they’re a fierce team and had tremendous advantage against all of the teams they beat, Crabs and Hawks included.

Crabs beat DCE by a small spread. Hawks beat Crabs by a small spread. DCE beat Hawks by a small spread. It would be nice to see these teams play each other again, and put Ten with a team with an equal amount of holdbacks to level the playing field.

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My boy's team played Team Ten yesterday. They played a lot of kids also so they are very deep as well. I was impressed honestly. They were strong at every line and very athletic kids.

If your team is loaded with holdbacks, it is, if not, well it is what it is.

Yes, those boys were clearly developmentally a year or two older. They were pretty violent players too when it was not necessary. Regardless, they’re a fierce team and had tremendous advantage against all of the teams they beat, Crabs and Hawks included.

Crabs beat DCE by a small spread. Hawks beat Crabs by a small spread. DCE beat Hawks by a small spread. It would be nice to see these teams play each other again, and put Ten with a team with an equal amount of holdbacks to level the playing field.

Every team has holdbacks who are at the top. Some of these kids also are finally growing so all of a sudden a team looks older. Philadelphia usually has 1 really good club team every year. Malvern/Haverford are two of the best programs in the country. I have two older sons and I have always thought Philadelphia kids played very physical. These kids at schools in the Interac are taught to play physical because generally that is their advantage. They do not play in my opinion as clean lacrosse as Long Island or Maryland teams but are generally more athletic in my opinion.

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My boy's team played Team Ten yesterday. They played a lot of kids also so they are very deep as well. I was impressed honestly. They were strong at every line and very athletic kids.

If your team is loaded with holdbacks, it is, if not, well it is what it is.

Yes, those boys were clearly developmentally a year or two older. They were pretty violent players too when it was not necessary. Regardless, they’re a fierce team and had tremendous advantage against all of the teams they beat, Crabs and Hawks included.

Crabs beat DCE by a small spread. Hawks beat Crabs by a small spread. DCE beat Hawks by a small spread. It would be nice to see these teams play each other again, and put Ten with a team with an equal amount of holdbacks to level the playing field.

Every team has holdbacks who are at the top. Some of these kids also are finally growing so all of a sudden a team looks older. Philadelphia usually has 1 really good club team every year. Malvern/Haverford are two of the best programs in the country. I have two older sons and I have always thought Philadelphia kids played very physical. These kids at schools in the Interac are taught to play physical because generally that is their advantage. They do not play in my opinion as clean lacrosse as Long Island or Maryland teams but are generally more athletic in my opinion.

Crabs are almost all MD prep school kids (mainly BL)and are notorious for holding back freshmen year. And Hawks kids are held back at birth, they generally don’t come out of the womb until they are 18 months old. Almost every top Philly team my kids have played against is borderline dirty.

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My boy's team played Team Ten yesterday. They played a lot of kids also so they are very deep as well. I was impressed honestly. They were strong at every line and very athletic kids.

If your team is loaded with holdbacks, it is, if not, well it is what it is.

Yes, those boys were clearly developmentally a year or two older. They were pretty violent players too when it was not necessary. Regardless, they’re a fierce team and had tremendous advantage against all of the teams they beat, Crabs and Hawks included.

Crabs beat DCE by a small spread. Hawks beat Crabs by a small spread. DCE beat Hawks by a small spread. It would be nice to see these teams play each other again, and put Ten with a team with an equal amount of holdbacks to level the playing field.

Every team has holdbacks who are at the top. Some of these kids also are finally growing so all of a sudden a team looks older. Philadelphia usually has 1 really good club team every year. Malvern/Haverford are two of the best programs in the country. I have two older sons and I have always thought Philadelphia kids played very physical. These kids at schools in the Interac are taught to play physical because generally that is their advantage. They do not play in my opinion as clean lacrosse as Long Island or Maryland teams but are generally more athletic in my opinion.

Every team has holdbacks but the Inter-IAC is considered a half step behind the academies like Culver and Western Reserve. Go take a look at the pictures Inside Lacrosse is posting from this past weekend's event congratulating the team winner's in the division. They don't just magically grow bigger and stronger with more facial hair on one team than another in what is supposed to be the same class.

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NL folks had to be happy with the results this weekend, right?
Also, what is up with FCA in this age group? I saw they struggled this weekend against teams I assumed they were better than, anybody know anything about them?

I don't think this is a strong age year for FCA. Not sure why. Blue (top team) pulled up quite a few white players over the summer, and cut a handful of kids. Coach is also new to the team and is a Kelly kid, so not sure how much coaching played into it.

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My boy's team played Team Ten yesterday. They played a lot of kids also so they are very deep as well. I was impressed honestly. They were strong at every line and very athletic kids.

If your team is loaded with holdbacks, it is, if not, well it is what it is.

Yes, those boys were clearly developmentally a year or two older. They were pretty violent players too when it was not necessary. Regardless, they’re a fierce team and had tremendous advantage against all of the teams they beat, Crabs and Hawks included.

Crabs beat DCE by a small spread. Hawks beat Crabs by a small spread. DCE beat Hawks by a small spread. It would be nice to see these teams play each other again, and put Ten with a team with an equal amount of holdbacks to level the playing field.

Every team has holdbacks who are at the top. Some of these kids also are finally growing so all of a sudden a team looks older. Philadelphia usually has 1 really good club team every year. Malvern/Haverford are two of the best programs in the country. I have two older sons and I have always thought Philadelphia kids played very physical. These kids at schools in the Interac are taught to play physical because generally that is their advantage. They do not play in my opinion as clean lacrosse as Long Island or Maryland teams but are generally more athletic in my opinion.

Crabs are almost all MD prep school kids (mainly BL)and are notorious for holding back freshmen year. And Hawks kids are held back at birth, they generally don’t come out of the womb until they are 18 months old. Almost every top Philly team my kids have played against is borderline dirty.


I’m gonna say at least a third of the Crabs roster aren’t even MD kids anymore. They keep flying in more every year. Not seeing the value for either team or player, but to each their own I guess.

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I’m gonna say at least a third of the Crabs roster aren’t even MD kids anymore. They keep flying in more every year. Not seeing the value for either team or player, but to each their own I guess.

The value is that the team is better with better players, and will play and compete against better teams. That will generate more visibility from college coaches and more recognition for the program.

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King Crab knows that to be competitive, you need some players from out of state. MD dilutes their players with too many clubs being elite. Or at least calling themselves elite. That plus MD has always played catch up in lacrosse with pur athletic ability of players. OOS helps there too.

Smart move on King Crab to get a winning team out there.

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King Crab knows that to be competitive, you need some players from out of state. MD dilutes their players with too many clubs being elite. Or at least calling themselves elite. That plus MD has always played catch up in lacrosse with pur athletic ability of players. OOS helps there too.

Smart move on King Crab to get a winning team out there.

It’s tough out there though. The Crabs still aren’t very good and haven’t had a signature win in over a year. This fall’s results were just more mediocrity.

But in their defense, the rest of the Maryland teams didn’t fare much better - and some did arguably worse. All the MD teams need to tighten it up.

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King Crab knows that to be competitive, you need some players from out of state. MD dilutes their players with too many clubs being elite. Or at least calling themselves elite. That plus MD has always played catch up in lacrosse with pur athletic ability of players. OOS helps there too.

Smart move on King Crab to get a winning team out there.

It’s tough out there though. The Crabs still aren’t very good and haven’t had a signature win in over a year. This fall’s results were just more mediocrity.

But in their defense, the rest of the Maryland teams didn’t fare much better - and some did arguably worse. All the MD teams need to tighten it up.

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King Crab knows that to be competitive, you need some players from out of state. MD dilutes their players with too many clubs being elite. Or at least calling themselves elite. That plus MD has always played catch up in lacrosse with pur athletic ability of players. OOS helps there too.

Smart move on King Crab to get a winning team out there.

It’s tough out there though. The Crabs still aren’t very good and haven’t had a signature win in over a year. This fall’s results were just more mediocrity.

But in their defense, the rest of the Maryland teams didn’t fare much better - and some did arguably worse. All the MD teams need to tighten it up.

Crabs re-classed a bunch of mid 26's in 8th grade. They were good but not great. Now he follows his old plan of the out of town guest reclasses and they still aren't dominating. There are just too many teams now, all-star and huge regional teams, who follow the same game plan.

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King Crab knows that to be competitive, you need some players from out of state. MD dilutes their players with too many clubs being elite. Or at least calling themselves elite. That plus MD has always played catch up in lacrosse with pur athletic ability of players. OOS helps there too.

Smart move on King Crab to get a winning team out there.

It’s tough out there though. The Crabs still aren’t very good and haven’t had a signature win in over a year. This fall’s results were just more mediocrity.

But in their defense, the rest of the Maryland teams didn’t fare much better - and some did arguably worse. All the MD teams need to tighten it up.

Based on the results from this fall, is the best team in this class Team Maryland White?

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Based on the results from this fall, is the best team in this class Team Maryland White?

LOL - No. Next Level and Madlax have separated themselves at the top with Crabs and Hawks in the next tier.

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Based on the results from this fall, is the best team in this class Team Maryland White?

LOL - No. Next Level and Madlax have separated themselves at the top with Crabs and Hawks in the next tier.

None of them even in the same league as Team Ten. No one is close

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Based on the results from this fall, is the best team in this class Team Maryland White?

LOL - No. Next Level and Madlax have separated themselves at the top with Crabs and Hawks in the next tier.

None of them even in the same league as Team Ten. No one is close

NL tied Team ten and had them down a goal with less than a minute. Ten scored on a deep bench player bc NL is playing everyone to get looks rather to win in a high school club lax game. Go back to Philly reclass boy.

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Based on the results from this fall, is the best team in this class Team Maryland White?

LOL - No. Next Level and Madlax have separated themselves at the top with Crabs and Hawks in the next tier.

None of them even in the same league as Team Ten. No one is close

NL tied Team ten and had them down a goal with less than a minute. Ten scored on a deep bench player bc NL is playing everyone to get looks rather to win in a high school club lax game. Go back to Philly reclass boy.

I heard it was the opposite - that Team 10 was up by 4-5 goals and cleared the bench too soon.

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LOL - No. Next Level and Madlax have separated themselves at the top with Crabs and Hawks in the next tier.[/quote]

Didn’t Mad lax lose to freedom a week or two ago? Not saying freedom is bad but they are only the 3rd or 4th best pa team

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Team ten doesn't clear the bench because all of their players are top guys. They were up big in the first half and NL chipped away until they took the lead late. Coach of NL wants to win but plays his bench rotation regardless of situation. He's not exactly known as a great x's and o's guy.

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Based on the results from this fall, is the best team in this class Team Maryland White?

LOL - No. Next Level and Madlax have separated themselves at the top with Crabs and Hawks in the next tier.

None of them even in the same league as Team Ten. No one is close

NL tied Team ten and had them down a goal with less than a minute. Ten scored on a deep bench player bc NL is playing everyone to get looks rather to win in a high school club lax game. Go back to Philly reclass boy.

I heard it was the opposite - that Team 10 was up by 4-5 goals and cleared the bench too soon.

Of course it was, Team 10 wanted to put out some players that didnt play. If the starters were left in, 8 goal win with ease. Sorry NL , your team isnt even in same conversion.

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Folks are giving Team 10 way too much credit. They are not that good - a top 20ish team, but not at the top. Next Level is likely better than they are, and shouldn’t be bragging about a tie. That said - Next Level had a nice win this weekend vs Sweetlax Upstate. With the screwed up US Club Rankings system, they could vault into #1.

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LOL - No. Next Level and Madlax have separated themselves at the top with Crabs and Hawks in the next tier.

Didn’t Mad lax lose to freedom a week or two ago? Not saying freedom is bad but they are only the 3rd or 4th best pa team[/quote]

Madlax is notoriously inconsistent. The freedom loss ranks up there with one of their most embarrassing losses (and they’ve had some doozies). NL has had far fewer bad losses, and is likely a step ahead of them, but it’s been a long time since they’ve played each other. Crabs and Hawks are clearly a step below both of them at this point though.

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Folks are giving Team 10 way too much credit. They are not that good - a top 20ish team, but not at the top. Next Level is likely better than they are, and shouldn’t be bragging about a tie. That said - Next Level had a nice win this weekend vs Sweetlax Upstate. With the screwed up US Club Rankings system, they could vault into #1.

I'm guessing Team Ten's 2026 freshman holdbacks weren't that good which is why they are now 27's. They are big and dirty though.

I'm not sure why you are so begrudging of NL. They play in good tournaments and almost always play against the really good clubs and all star teams. After losing almost every game to the Hawks, they finally beat them. Madlax hasn't beaten NL in a long time and ML consistently drops games they shouldn't lose. NL is also built almost entirely around DC players. I think one player comes from Richmond.

As for the rankings, they have little meaning for this age group this fall with the lack of games teams are playing. I wouldn't be surprised if NL's ranking drops because Sweetlax lost 2 games and the other 2 teamsNL played weren't very highly ranked. Btw - Hilltop shouldn't be ranked at all given their roster mix of current 2026's playing the future reclass game.

The big thing I notice about the rankings is the lack of all-star teams. I suspect the money @ChillLaxin has run dry for them now that teams are into high school and families have decided it's not worth the $$ and time for a sport that only pushes a few onto higher levels. ADVNC is still there but not as dominant; BBL Elite and Black are still doing the name swap thing; True National lost their 26's to other sports; Supremes - well; Red Hots Nationals the gig is up and same for Nationals; West Coast Starz is grabbing who they can to fill a roster out East; and to dig on Next Level, MoJo National didn't get off the ground for high school.

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Mad Dog National is still the best of the best. Most of the best Nationals and Red Hots players landed there, which depleted those rosters. But it’s nice to see the national teams taking a back seat for the most part.

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