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Raise your hand if your child was born between March 1, 2010 and May 31, 2010. SMH

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Hawks are better because they are older. Ever play in a straight up same age game? Didn’t think so.

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Now that HOCO is settled and we can move whether we like it or not. What teams will be in the mix. Is it the usual suspects FCA, MADLAX, CRABS, HAWKS, TC? Who else? I know that some teams are unable to play some of their holdbacks. And that's the way it is. Hopefully HOCO makes an early, definitive, and clear decision before the 2026 season and allows everyone to understand the rules. IMO, this had made the lacrosse an ugly situation.

In other news... getting back to field play because thats why we are here. Any updates? Any good games to discuss.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS ONLY FALL BALL HOWEVER BEFORE WE KNOW IT THE SEASON WILL BE HERE!

This weekends tourney outcomes from Us Lacrosse Ranking Page

Hawks - no games recorded as of yet
Crabs - 3-0 this weekend. Scores seems to show they possibly played weaker teams.
Clippers - 0-2 with some larger loses
FCA - 3-0 with some seemingly decisive wins against ok teams.
FCA white 1-2 with a great win against Pred b team.
Next level 4-5 this fall with some larger than normal loses
TC Black - 0-3 , no newer tournet scores posted
Team 91 - 3-0 against ok competition.
Madlax - 2-1 with no newer tournaments.

I think teams beyond elite, FCA WHITE and PREDATORS are going to match up really well and compete heavily every time they play.

Are RED HOTS fielding a team or did that ship sink?


Finally, let's try to turn this page into something a little more positive to grow the game and make it something exciting.

Hawks played at Gold Cup in DE. They went 5-0

One of the teams discussed in the past as maybe an elite and one of the teams they played was True NOVA - played them twice. On Saturday match up, it was definitely a deer in head lights for NOVA. Just a big step up in play for them. NOVA struggled in winning face-offs, clearing and when they did clear they turned the ball over to lose 10-zippy. Reportedly NOVA was missing 2 starting attack, 1st line middie, starting Dman and LSM and it showed. No excuse, you play who you've got and NOVA wasn't ready. Not sure who was missing for Hawks.

The Sunday game (and getting some of their starters back from playing sports on Saturday) NOVA was more evenly matched. NOVA was losing 5-3 with about 5-6 minutes left when Hawks ripped off 3 straight goals on fast breaks off of clears to win 8-3. Transition defense will be a huge issue for NOVA if they don't get it straighten out. 6 of Hawks 8 goals (3 long pole goals) were scored in transition or slow fast breaks. The other two were a 6-4 man up and the other was an absolute snipe by the lefty attackman (the only real settled offense goal).

If the 1st game was any indication then NOVA was not ready. The second game certainly showed they didn't look didn't belong. So it will be interesting to see what happens from here with them.

Hawks went 5-0 against lower competition. Team 91 Georgia is a solid team that could hang with the bottom half of HOCO Elite. Ture NoVa and Hoco Pink are AAA level teams. My guess is Hawks took their foot off the gas and were working on evaluating depth players or installing new offensive concepts rather than run up the score on a team they already beat 10-0.

That is kind of a convenient argument to make. Was Team 91 Georgia doing the same thing when it tied NOVA 5-5?

I can't comment on Team 91 Georgia and the True NOVA game because I've only seen 91 Georgia play twice and they were vastly different teams each times.

I made my previous comment about Hawks based on several factors.

1. The difference between the top of AAA division and HOCO and even the bottom of the Elite Division is VAST. The last two teams that dominated AAA and moved up to Elite struggled (FCA and Predators).
2. The difference between the bottom of Elite and the top of Elite is almost as VAST. Outside of Crabs/LTLC picking off Madlax, bottom Elite teams don't simply don't beat top Elite teams.
3. Hawks Green is not just at the top of Elite, they are in the top 1-2 teams.
4. Most top teams use the Fall to work on integrating new players, installing new schemes and giving bottom of the roster kids playing time.

Trust me, True NOVA dad... it's ok to be proud of your kids team's progress but you guys arent even in the same zip code as Hawks.

Fair enough. It is sort of like the hold back debate. You don't get better playing weaker teams. You get better by challenging yourself. I know my son's hope is they get that opportunity.

That's the right attitude to have. Many of the studs in high school are struggling right now or haven't even picked up a stick yet. Many of the studs now will fade in high school as their early puberty advantage diminishes. If your kid keeps grinding and playing against top competition, he will get better.

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Now that HOCO is settled and we can move whether we like it or not. What teams will be in the mix. Is it the usual suspects FCA, MADLAX, CRABS, HAWKS, TC? Who else? I know that some teams are unable to play some of their holdbacks. And that's the way it is. Hopefully HOCO makes an early, definitive, and clear decision before the 2026 season and allows everyone to understand the rules. IMO, this had made the lacrosse an ugly situation.

In other news... getting back to field play because thats why we are here. Any updates? Any good games to discuss.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS ONLY FALL BALL HOWEVER BEFORE WE KNOW IT THE SEASON WILL BE HERE!

This weekends tourney outcomes from Us Lacrosse Ranking Page

Hawks - no games recorded as of yet
Crabs - 3-0 this weekend. Scores seems to show they possibly played weaker teams.
Clippers - 0-2 with some larger loses
FCA - 3-0 with some seemingly decisive wins against ok teams.
FCA white 1-2 with a great win against Pred b team.
Next level 4-5 this fall with some larger than normal loses
TC Black - 0-3 , no newer tournet scores posted
Team 91 - 3-0 against ok competition.
Madlax - 2-1 with no newer tournaments.

I think teams beyond elite, FCA WHITE and PREDATORS are going to match up really well and compete heavily every time they play.

Are RED HOTS fielding a team or did that ship sink?


Finally, let's try to turn this page into something a little more positive to grow the game and make it something exciting.

Hawks played at Gold Cup in DE. They went 5-0

One of the teams discussed in the past as maybe an elite and one of the teams they played was True NOVA - played them twice. On Saturday match up, it was definitely a deer in head lights for NOVA. Just a big step up in play for them. NOVA struggled in winning face-offs, clearing and when they did clear they turned the ball over to lose 10-zippy. Reportedly NOVA was missing 2 starting attack, 1st line middie, starting Dman and LSM and it showed. No excuse, you play who you've got and NOVA wasn't ready. Not sure who was missing for Hawks.

The Sunday game (and getting some of their starters back from playing sports on Saturday) NOVA was more evenly matched. NOVA was losing 5-3 with about 5-6 minutes left when Hawks ripped off 3 straight goals on fast breaks off of clears to win 8-3. Transition defense will be a huge issue for NOVA if they don't get it straighten out. 6 of Hawks 8 goals (3 long pole goals) were scored in transition or slow fast breaks. The other two were a 6-4 man up and the other was an absolute snipe by the lefty attackman (the only real settled offense goal).

If the 1st game was any indication then NOVA was not ready. The second game certainly showed they didn't look didn't belong. So it will be interesting to see what happens from here with them.

I love these purportedly objective posts that are clearly written by a team parent. No one other than a True NOVA parent would know with any specificity which players were missing ("reportedly"), let alone watch two full games your kid isn't a part of and give a detailed, multi-paragraph analysis of their transition defense where you count the number of pole goals and EMOs.

Just own the fact that you're posting about your own son's team rather than pretending this is some independent third-party analysis.

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Congrats to the Red Hots 29 for winning 4 games in their Aloha tournament today by a score of 59-0.

Several other top teams playing against @ChillLaxin competition last weekend. Gotta get that free t-shirt!!!

Why even bother? I'd be seriously ticked if my kid's program wasted our family's time and money like that. Redhots pay to play model was unique a few years ago. Glad that model and their appeal has died off, at least around here in MD.

I'd also be looking for answers from Aloha. If I was a program director at one of the other teams in the tourney I'd be looking for a partial refund or free entry to another tourney as compensation.

Just a bad showing all around.

Totally agree. What's the point of spending 7 hours and spending ~ $500 on a Sunday to pound a bunch of inferior teams? The elite kids don't get better... frankly, they probably start to develop bad habits. The lower level kids don't get any better. They might even lose interest in lacrosse if it happens too frequently. I get it that these tourneys want cash but they need to better police the talent to keep things competitive.
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Now that HOCO is settled and we can move whether we like it or not. What teams will be in the mix. Is it the usual suspects FCA, MADLAX, CRABS, HAWKS, TC? Who else? I know that some teams are unable to play some of their holdbacks. And that's the way it is. Hopefully HOCO makes an early, definitive, and clear decision before the 2026 season and allows everyone to understand the rules. IMO, this had made the lacrosse an ugly situation.

In other news... getting back to field play because thats why we are here. Any updates? Any good games to discuss.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS ONLY FALL BALL HOWEVER BEFORE WE KNOW IT THE SEASON WILL BE HERE!

This weekends tourney outcomes from Us Lacrosse Ranking Page

Hawks - no games recorded as of yet
Crabs - 3-0 this weekend. Scores seems to show they possibly played weaker teams.
Clippers - 0-2 with some larger loses
FCA - 3-0 with some seemingly decisive wins against ok teams.
FCA white 1-2 with a great win against Pred b team.
Next level 4-5 this fall with some larger than normal loses
TC Black - 0-3 , no newer tournet scores posted
Team 91 - 3-0 against ok competition.
Madlax - 2-1 with no newer tournaments.

I think teams beyond elite, FCA WHITE and PREDATORS are going to match up really well and compete heavily every time they play.

Are RED HOTS fielding a team or did that ship sink?


Finally, let's try to turn this page into something a little more positive to grow the game and make it something exciting.

Hawks played at Gold Cup in DE. They went 5-0

One of the teams discussed in the past as maybe an elite and one of the teams they played was True NOVA - played them twice. On Saturday match up, it was definitely a deer in head lights for NOVA. Just a big step up in play for them. NOVA struggled in winning face-offs, clearing and when they did clear they turned the ball over to lose 10-zippy. Reportedly NOVA was missing 2 starting attack, 1st line middie, starting Dman and LSM and it showed. No excuse, you play who you've got and NOVA wasn't ready. Not sure who was missing for Hawks.

The Sunday game (and getting some of their starters back from playing sports on Saturday) NOVA was more evenly matched. NOVA was losing 5-3 with about 5-6 minutes left when Hawks ripped off 3 straight goals on fast breaks off of clears to win 8-3. Transition defense will be a huge issue for NOVA if they don't get it straighten out. 6 of Hawks 8 goals (3 long pole goals) were scored in transition or slow fast breaks. The other two were a 6-4 man up and the other was an absolute snipe by the lefty attackman (the only real settled offense goal).

If the 1st game was any indication then NOVA was not ready. The second game certainly showed they didn't look didn't belong. So it will be interesting to see what happens from here with them.

I love these purportedly objective posts that are clearly written by a team parent. No one other than a True NOVA parent would know with any specificity which players were missing ("reportedly"), let alone watch two full games your kid isn't a part of and give a detailed, multi-paragraph analysis of their transition defense where you count the number of pole goals and EMOs.

Just own the fact that you're posting about your own son's team rather than pretending this is some independent third-party analysis.

Never said I wasn't.

Hawks clearly outclassed them in the 1st game. Definitely some awe "look at those kids" in that 1st game. 2nd game, depending on your view on WRT what the Hawks were doing, it was a competitive game with about 5 minutes left.

As I said, when I started the post, this is in response to a post 10-12 pages ago regarding who True NOVA is playing and where they stand. I'm just to lazy to go find it.

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Now that HOCO is settled and we can move whether we like it or not. What teams will be in the mix. Is it the usual suspects FCA, MADLAX, CRABS, HAWKS, TC? Who else? I know that some teams are unable to play some of their holdbacks. And that's the way it is. Hopefully HOCO makes an early, definitive, and clear decision before the 2026 season and allows everyone to understand the rules. IMO, this had made the lacrosse an ugly situation.

In other news... getting back to field play because thats why we are here. Any updates? Any good games to discuss.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS ONLY FALL BALL HOWEVER BEFORE WE KNOW IT THE SEASON WILL BE HERE!

This weekends tourney outcomes from Us Lacrosse Ranking Page

Hawks - no games recorded as of yet
Crabs - 3-0 this weekend. Scores seems to show they possibly played weaker teams.
Clippers - 0-2 with some larger loses
FCA - 3-0 with some seemingly decisive wins against ok teams.
FCA white 1-2 with a great win against Pred b team.
Next level 4-5 this fall with some larger than normal loses
TC Black - 0-3 , no newer tournet scores posted
Team 91 - 3-0 against ok competition.
Madlax - 2-1 with no newer tournaments.

I think teams beyond elite, FCA WHITE and PREDATORS are going to match up really well and compete heavily every time they play.

Are RED HOTS fielding a team or did that ship sink?


Finally, let's try to turn this page into something a little more positive to grow the game and make it something exciting.

Hawks played at Gold Cup in DE. They went 5-0

One of the teams discussed in the past as maybe an elite and one of the teams they played was True NOVA - played them twice. On Saturday match up, it was definitely a deer in head lights for NOVA. Just a big step up in play for them. NOVA struggled in winning face-offs, clearing and when they did clear they turned the ball over to lose 10-zippy. Reportedly NOVA was missing 2 starting attack, 1st line middie, starting Dman and LSM and it showed. No excuse, you play who you've got and NOVA wasn't ready. Not sure who was missing for Hawks.

The Sunday game (and getting some of their starters back from playing sports on Saturday) NOVA was more evenly matched. NOVA was losing 5-3 with about 5-6 minutes left when Hawks ripped off 3 straight goals on fast breaks off of clears to win 8-3. Transition defense will be a huge issue for NOVA if they don't get it straighten out. 6 of Hawks 8 goals (3 long pole goals) were scored in transition or slow fast breaks. The other two were a 6-4 man up and the other was an absolute snipe by the lefty attackman (the only real settled offense goal).

If the 1st game was any indication then NOVA was not ready. The second game certainly showed they didn't look didn't belong. So it will be interesting to see what happens from here with them.

I love these purportedly objective posts that are clearly written by a team parent. No one other than a True NOVA parent would know with any specificity which players were missing ("reportedly"), let alone watch two full games your kid isn't a part of and give a detailed, multi-paragraph analysis of their transition defense where you count the number of pole goals and EMOs.

Just own the fact that you're posting about your own son's team rather than pretending this is some independent third-party analysis.

Never said I wasn't.

Hawks clearly outclassed them in the 1st game. Definitely some awe "look at those kids" in that 1st game. 2nd game, depending on your view on WRT what the Hawks were doing, it was a competitive game with about 5 minutes left.

As I said, when I started the post, this is in response to a post 10-12 pages ago regarding who True NOVA is playing and where they stand. I'm just to lazy to go find it.

Keep hyping yourself up mom. It sounds like you’re some kind of a lax expert or scout for ND, which one? Just looked at the scores for your team that weekend. What happened to the rest of the games? This why your husband doesn’t want you texting drunk on message boards.

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I didn't see many coaches coming to middle school games. For us, the best way to be seen and considered for scholarships at these private schools was by doing their prospect days.

But they aren't offering significant money unless you show other real interest. You still have to visit the school, test, apply etc.

They usually happen in the early fall but there are a couple still open in the A conference. Good Luck.

Boys Latin:

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John Carroll:

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Now that HOCO is settled and we can move whether we like it or not. What teams will be in the mix. Is it the usual suspects FCA, MADLAX, CRABS, HAWKS, TC? Who else? I know that some teams are unable to play some of their holdbacks. And that's the way it is. Hopefully HOCO makes an early, definitive, and clear decision before the 2026 season and allows everyone to understand the rules. IMO, this had made the lacrosse an ugly situation.

In other news... getting back to field play because thats why we are here. Any updates? Any good games to discuss.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS ONLY FALL BALL HOWEVER BEFORE WE KNOW IT THE SEASON WILL BE HERE!

This weekends tourney outcomes from Us Lacrosse Ranking Page

Hawks - no games recorded as of yet
Crabs - 3-0 this weekend. Scores seems to show they possibly played weaker teams.
Clippers - 0-2 with some larger loses
FCA - 3-0 with some seemingly decisive wins against ok teams.
FCA white 1-2 with a great win against Pred b team.
Next level 4-5 this fall with some larger than normal loses
TC Black - 0-3 , no newer tournet scores posted
Team 91 - 3-0 against ok competition.
Madlax - 2-1 with no newer tournaments.

I think teams beyond elite, FCA WHITE and PREDATORS are going to match up really well and compete heavily every time they play.

Are RED HOTS fielding a team or did that ship sink?


Finally, let's try to turn this page into something a little more positive to grow the game and make it something exciting.

Hawks played at Gold Cup in DE. They went 5-0

One of the teams discussed in the past as maybe an elite and one of the teams they played was True NOVA - played them twice. On Saturday match up, it was definitely a deer in head lights for NOVA. Just a big step up in play for them. NOVA struggled in winning face-offs, clearing and when they did clear they turned the ball over to lose 10-zippy. Reportedly NOVA was missing 2 starting attack, 1st line middie, starting Dman and LSM and it showed. No excuse, you play who you've got and NOVA wasn't ready. Not sure who was missing for Hawks.

The Sunday game (and getting some of their starters back from playing sports on Saturday) NOVA was more evenly matched. NOVA was losing 5-3 with about 5-6 minutes left when Hawks ripped off 3 straight goals on fast breaks off of clears to win 8-3. Transition defense will be a huge issue for NOVA if they don't get it straighten out. 6 of Hawks 8 goals (3 long pole goals) were scored in transition or slow fast breaks. The other two were a 6-4 man up and the other was an absolute snipe by the lefty attackman (the only real settled offense goal).

If the 1st game was any indication then NOVA was not ready. The second game certainly showed they didn't look didn't belong. So it will be interesting to see what happens from here with them.

I love these purportedly objective posts that are clearly written by a team parent. No one other than a True NOVA parent would know with any specificity which players were missing ("reportedly"), let alone watch two full games your kid isn't a part of and give a detailed, multi-paragraph analysis of their transition defense where you count the number of pole goals and EMOs.

Just own the fact that you're posting about your own son's team rather than pretending this is some independent third-party analysis.

Never said I wasn't.

Hawks clearly outclassed them in the 1st game. Definitely some awe "look at those kids" in that 1st game. 2nd game, depending on your view on WRT what the Hawks were doing, it was a competitive game with about 5 minutes left.

As I said, when I started the post, this is in response to a post 10-12 pages ago regarding who True NOVA is playing and where they stand. I'm just to lazy to go find it.

Keep hyping yourself up mom. It sounds like you’re some kind of a lax expert or scout for ND, which one? Just looked at the scores for your team that weekend. What happened to the rest of the games? This why your husband doesn’t want you texting drunk on message boards.

No need to be harsh with someone who just wants to be proud of their kid. Not everyone here is on an elite team.

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How did everyone do this weekend at the tournaments. I saw NAL was happening

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Now that HOCO is settled and we can move whether we like it or not. What teams will be in the mix. Is it the usual suspects FCA, MADLAX, CRABS, HAWKS, TC? Who else? I know that some teams are unable to play some of their holdbacks. And that's the way it is. Hopefully HOCO makes an early, definitive, and clear decision before the 2026 season and allows everyone to understand the rules. IMO, this had made the lacrosse an ugly situation.

In other news... getting back to field play because thats why we are here. Any updates? Any good games to discuss.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS ONLY FALL BALL HOWEVER BEFORE WE KNOW IT THE SEASON WILL BE HERE!

This weekends tourney outcomes from Us Lacrosse Ranking Page

Hawks - no games recorded as of yet
Crabs - 3-0 this weekend. Scores seems to show they possibly played weaker teams.
Clippers - 0-2 with some larger loses
FCA - 3-0 with some seemingly decisive wins against ok teams.
FCA white 1-2 with a great win against Pred b team.
Next level 4-5 this fall with some larger than normal loses
TC Black - 0-3 , no newer tournet scores posted
Team 91 - 3-0 against ok competition.
Madlax - 2-1 with no newer tournaments.

I think teams beyond elite, FCA WHITE and PREDATORS are going to match up really well and compete heavily every time they play.

Are RED HOTS fielding a team or did that ship sink?


Finally, let's try to turn this page into something a little more positive to grow the game and make it something exciting.

Hawks played at Gold Cup in DE. They went 5-0

One of the teams discussed in the past as maybe an elite and one of the teams they played was True NOVA - played them twice. On Saturday match up, it was definitely a deer in head lights for NOVA. Just a big step up in play for them. NOVA struggled in winning face-offs, clearing and when they did clear they turned the ball over to lose 10-zippy. Reportedly NOVA was missing 2 starting attack, 1st line middie, starting Dman and LSM and it showed. No excuse, you play who you've got and NOVA wasn't ready. Not sure who was missing for Hawks.

The Sunday game (and getting some of their starters back from playing sports on Saturday) NOVA was more evenly matched. NOVA was losing 5-3 with about 5-6 minutes left when Hawks ripped off 3 straight goals on fast breaks off of clears to win 8-3. Transition defense will be a huge issue for NOVA if they don't get it straighten out. 6 of Hawks 8 goals (3 long pole goals) were scored in transition or slow fast breaks. The other two were a 6-4 man up and the other was an absolute snipe by the lefty attackman (the only real settled offense goal).

If the 1st game was any indication then NOVA was not ready. The second game certainly showed they didn't look didn't belong. So it will be interesting to see what happens from here with them.

I love these purportedly objective posts that are clearly written by a team parent. No one other than a True NOVA parent would know with any specificity which players were missing ("reportedly"), let alone watch two full games your kid isn't a part of and give a detailed, multi-paragraph analysis of their transition defense where you count the number of pole goals and EMOs.

Just own the fact that you're posting about your own son's team rather than pretending this is some independent third-party analysis.

Never said I wasn't.

Hawks clearly outclassed them in the 1st game. Definitely some awe "look at those kids" in that 1st game. 2nd game, depending on your view on WRT what the Hawks were doing, it was a competitive game with about 5 minutes left.

As I said, when I started the post, this is in response to a post 10-12 pages ago regarding who True NOVA is playing and where they stand. I'm just to lazy to go find it.

Keep hyping yourself up mom. It sounds like you’re some kind of a lax expert or scout for ND, which one? Just looked at the scores for your team that weekend. What happened to the rest of the games? This why your husband doesn’t want you texting drunk on message boards.

No need to be harsh with someone who just wants to be proud of their kid. Not everyone here is on an elite team.

Totally agree. Let's go easy on a proud parent who is not disparaging other teams or kids. Also, some elite kids today will be bench warmers come high school and some average kids today will be stars. Development is not linear. Lots of early puberty kids who are in the spotlight now will struggle in a few years.

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Now that HOCO is settled and we can move whether we like it or not. What teams will be in the mix. Is it the usual suspects FCA, MADLAX, CRABS, HAWKS, TC? Who else? I know that some teams are unable to play some of their holdbacks. And that's the way it is. Hopefully HOCO makes an early, definitive, and clear decision before the 2026 season and allows everyone to understand the rules. IMO, this had made the lacrosse an ugly situation.

In other news... getting back to field play because thats why we are here. Any updates? Any good games to discuss.

I UNDERSTAND THIS IS ONLY FALL BALL HOWEVER BEFORE WE KNOW IT THE SEASON WILL BE HERE!

This weekends tourney outcomes from Us Lacrosse Ranking Page

Hawks - no games recorded as of yet
Crabs - 3-0 this weekend. Scores seems to show they possibly played weaker teams.
Clippers - 0-2 with some larger loses
FCA - 3-0 with some seemingly decisive wins against ok teams.
FCA white 1-2 with a great win against Pred b team.
Next level 4-5 this fall with some larger than normal loses
TC Black - 0-3 , no newer tournet scores posted
Team 91 - 3-0 against ok competition.
Madlax - 2-1 with no newer tournaments.

I think teams beyond elite, FCA WHITE and PREDATORS are going to match up really well and compete heavily every time they play.

Are RED HOTS fielding a team or did that ship sink?


Finally, let's try to turn this page into something a little more positive to grow the game and make it something exciting.

Hawks played at Gold Cup in DE. They went 5-0

One of the teams discussed in the past as maybe an elite and one of the teams they played was True NOVA - played them twice. On Saturday match up, it was definitely a deer in head lights for NOVA. Just a big step up in play for them. NOVA struggled in winning face-offs, clearing and when they did clear they turned the ball over to lose 10-zippy. Reportedly NOVA was missing 2 starting attack, 1st line middie, starting Dman and LSM and it showed. No excuse, you play who you've got and NOVA wasn't ready. Not sure who was missing for Hawks.

The Sunday game (and getting some of their starters back from playing sports on Saturday) NOVA was more evenly matched. NOVA was losing 5-3 with about 5-6 minutes left when Hawks ripped off 3 straight goals on fast breaks off of clears to win 8-3. Transition defense will be a huge issue for NOVA if they don't get it straighten out. 6 of Hawks 8 goals (3 long pole goals) were scored in transition or slow fast breaks. The other two were a 6-4 man up and the other was an absolute snipe by the lefty attackman (the only real settled offense goal).

If the 1st game was any indication then NOVA was not ready. The second game certainly showed they didn't look didn't belong. So it will be interesting to see what happens from here with them.

I love these purportedly objective posts that are clearly written by a team parent. No one other than a True NOVA parent would know with any specificity which players were missing ("reportedly"), let alone watch two full games your kid isn't a part of and give a detailed, multi-paragraph analysis of their transition defense where you count the number of pole goals and EMOs.

Just own the fact that you're posting about your own son's team rather than pretending this is some independent third-party analysis.

Never said I wasn't.

Hawks clearly outclassed them in the 1st game. Definitely some awe "look at those kids" in that 1st game. 2nd game, depending on your view on WRT what the Hawks were doing, it was a competitive game with about 5 minutes left.

As I said, when I started the post, this is in response to a post 10-12 pages ago regarding who True NOVA is playing and where they stand. I'm just to lazy to go find it.

Keep hyping yourself up mom. It sounds like you’re some kind of a lax expert or scout for ND, which one? Just looked at the scores for your team that weekend. What happened to the rest of the games? This why your husband doesn’t want you texting drunk on message boards.

No need to be harsh with someone who just wants to be proud of their kid. Not everyone here is on an elite team.

Totally agree. Let's go easy on a proud parent who is not disparaging other teams or kids. Also, some elite kids today will be bench warmers come high school and some average kids today will be stars. Development is not linear. Lots of early puberty kids who are in the spotlight now will struggle in a few years.

Ok, I’m sorry. Point to where it hurts

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After the IL Fall Cup Tournament this past weekend, Team 91 MD, 91 VA, and ATL Thunder faced off in some very competitive matches this weekend. 91 VA had a tough loss to Thunder but looked like 91 VA fought hard until the last whistle. 91 MD then faced off against Thunder and was a very competitive game till the last seconds of OT. 91 MD looked much better than they did last year showing great aggressiveness and grit against the top team in Georgia. 91 MD then had a dog fight game with 91 VA. MD started with a 4-0 lead but quickly fell to a skilled 91 VA defense and gave up some easy goals to the aggressive offense of VA. As a newly formed 91 team, they showed amazing teamwork through out the tourney. Can't wait to see all of these teams during their spring and summer seasons.

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Re: NAL yesterday- Fusion looked as advertised, perhaps the best team in the country. No real competition for them.

In the other division Madlax had a couple of relatively easy games followed by a good win over Sweetlax FL in the division finals.

Hard to judge how some of the other teams in Fusion’s bracket would’ve done against ML, FCA, and so on.

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Madlax won their bracket and I think fca went 1-2.

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Fusion should have played in the 28 bracket. Still would have been the biggest team in the field.

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Madlax won their bracket and I think fca went 1-2.

Madlax looked dominant and won their bracket beating Sweetlax Florida in the championship. Madlax appears to have added some size and physicality and continued to move the ball extremely well.

Hawks went 2-1 but played a weak NH Tomahawks team beat Dukes in Overtime on a terribly late substitution by the Dukes coach resulting in a wide open midfielder who was 1 on 1 with the goalie. No word from Hawks parents on the impact of the new Pittsburgh kids to team chemistry.

True Chesapeake played both days and went 2-4 on the weekend with some bad losses to Sweetlax Upstate and 91 Colorado (twice) but did give Leading Edge a scare only losing 5-4. Very talented team that seems to be struggling to put it together. Lots of new out of state kids on the roster so it may take some time for the team to gel.

FCA dropped a close one to Sweetlax Florida giving up a couple of goals at the end but then got exposed by Madlax. They then handled Sweetlax Upstate pretty easily and ended 1-2 on the weekend.

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Fusion should have played in the 28 bracket. Still would have been the biggest team in the field.

Their defense is gigantic. It was big last year and then they added the nationals defender man-child.

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Fusion should have played in the 28 bracket. Still would have been the biggest team in the field.

Biggest and oldest

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So how does that work for Fusions? I noticed on the roster that there are players that play on fusions and other high level teams. For example a player that is both on Fusions and Hawks. Is fusions a composite team of all stars and invites or a stable year round team? Are they a team carrying multiple holdbacks?This a serious question not looking to start BS convo.

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Fusion should have played in the 28 bracket. Still would have been the biggest team in the field.

And the curcuit

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Fusion should have played in the 28 bracket. Still would have been the biggest team in the field.

Their defense is gigantic. It was big last year and then they added the nationals defender man-child.

Yeh that’s because they are 14-15!

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Madlax won their bracket and I think fca went 1-2.

Madlax looked dominant and won their bracket beating Sweetlax Florida in the championship. Madlax appears to have added some size and physicality and continued to move the ball extremely well.

Hawks went 2-1 but played a weak NH Tomahawks team beat Dukes in Overtime on a terribly late substitution by the Dukes coach resulting in a wide open midfielder who was 1 on 1 with the goalie. No word from Hawks parents on the impact of the new Pittsburgh kids to team chemistry.

True Chesapeake played both days and went 2-4 on the weekend with some bad losses to Sweetlax Upstate and 91 Colorado (twice) but did give Leading Edge a scare only losing 5-4. Very talented team that seems to be struggling to put it together. Lots of new out of state kids on the roster so it may take some time for the team to gel.

FCA dropped a close one to Sweetlax Florida giving up a couple of goals at the end but then got exposed by Madlax. They then handled Sweetlax Upstate pretty easily and ended 1-2 on the weekend.

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Madlax won their bracket and I think fca went 1-2.

Heard the injury bug is striking once again this year for FCA. Gonna be another rough year! New coaches, more talent, same results.

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FCA had injuries? Again. I do know the FOGO had played some ridiculous amount like 80 games for 4+ different teams in a season March-July. Wonder if he is one of them. Hopefully not. Not wishing any injury on any players and for quick recoveries. Recovery and rest need to be an important part at this age.

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So how does that work for Fusions? I noticed on the roster that there are players that play on fusions and other high level teams. For example a player that is both on Fusions and Hawks. Is fusions a composite team of all stars and invites or a stable year round team? Are they a team carrying multiple holdbacks?This a serious question not looking to start BS convo.
Their two best offensive players are holdbacks (midfielder and left attack - actually both of their lefty attack are holdbacks, one just happens to be significantly better than the other).

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So how does that work for Fusions? I noticed on the roster that there are players that play on fusions and other high level teams. For example a player that is both on Fusions and Hawks. Is fusions a composite team of all stars and invites or a stable year round team? Are they a team carrying multiple holdbacks?This a serious question not looking to start BS convo.
Their two best offensive players are holdbacks (midfielder and left attack - actually both of their lefty attack are holdbacks, one just happens to be significantly better than the other).

No shortage of people in the world looking for shortcuts or ways to cheat their way to the top

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Re: NAL yesterday- Fusion looked as advertised, perhaps the best team in the country. No real competition for them.

In the other division Madlax had a couple of relatively easy games followed by a good win over Sweetlax FL in the division finals.

Hard to judge how some of the other teams in Fusion’s bracket would’ve done against ML, FCA, and so on.

You do know Fusion lost by 3 to Leading Edge on Sat

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So how does that work for Fusions? I noticed on the roster that there are players that play on fusions and other high level teams. For example a player that is both on Fusions and Hawks. Is fusions a composite team of all stars and invites or a stable year round team? Are they a team carrying multiple holdbacks?This a serious question not looking to start BS convo.
Their two best offensive players are holdbacks (midfielder and left attack - actually both of their lefty attack are holdbacks, one just happens to be significantly better than the other).

NAL was age verified right? So wouldn’t those kids just have at worst summer birthday? Not like a holdback such as having a fall 2009 birthday.

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So how does that work for Fusions? I noticed on the roster that there are players that play on fusions and other high level teams. For example a player that is both on Fusions and Hawks. Is fusions a composite team of all stars and invites or a stable year round team? Are they a team carrying multiple holdbacks?This a serious question not looking to start BS convo.
Their two best offensive players are holdbacks (midfielder and left attack - actually both of their lefty attack are holdbacks, one just happens to be significantly better than the other).

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All the way to the top of middle school lacrosse?! For the GLORY right?

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Madlax won their bracket and I think fca went 1-2.

Heard the injury bug is striking once again this year for FCA. Gonna be another rough year! New coaches, more talent, same results.

Last year FCA won 27% of their games. Currently winning 50% of their games. So actually the results are almost twice as good so far. But I know math is hard for you.

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Re: NAL yesterday- Fusion looked as advertised, perhaps the best team in the country. No real competition for them.

In the other division Madlax had a couple of relatively easy games followed by a good win over Sweetlax FL in the division finals.

Hard to judge how some of the other teams in Fusion’s bracket would’ve done against ML, FCA, and so on.

You do know Fusion lost by 3 to Leading Edge on Sat

Heard Futures was missing a bunch of players including 4 of their top offensive players on Saturday including their super quick X attackman and their World Series MVP midfielder.

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So how does that work for Fusions? I noticed on the roster that there are players that play on fusions and other high level teams. For example a player that is both on Fusions and Hawks. Is fusions a composite team of all stars and invites or a stable year round team? Are they a team carrying multiple holdbacks?This a serious question not looking to start BS convo.
Their two best offensive players are holdbacks (midfielder and left attack - actually both of their lefty attack are holdbacks, one just happens to be significantly better than the other).

NAL was age verified right? So wouldn’t those kids just have at worst summer birthday? Not like a holdback such as having a fall 2009 birthday.

NAL is age verified. Can't speak entirely to the roster of Futures this year but 85% of their kids also played in the World Series which is a Sept 1st cutoff.

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Madlax won their bracket and I think fca went 1-2.

Heard the injury bug is striking once again this year for FCA. Gonna be another rough year! New coaches, more talent, same results.

Last year they won 27% of their games. This year they're winning so far 50% of their games. So no, not the same results.

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So how does that work for Fusions? I noticed on the roster that there are players that play on fusions and other high level teams. For example a player that is both on Fusions and Hawks. Is fusions a composite team of all stars and invites or a stable year round team? Are they a team carrying multiple holdbacks?This a serious question not looking to start BS convo.
Their two best offensive players are holdbacks (midfielder and left attack - actually both of their lefty attack are holdbacks, one just happens to be significantly better than the other).

No shortage of people in the world looking for shortcuts or ways to cheat their way to the top

And how is that a problem when half the MIAA is holdbacks ? Get real.

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Madlax won their bracket and I think fca went 1-2.

Heard the injury bug is striking once again this year for FCA. Gonna be another rough year! New coaches, more talent, same results.

Last year they won 27% of their games. This year they're winning so far 50% of their games. So no, not the same results.

It's a long season and we're only in fall. Lots of teams missing players due to other sports, injuries etc... Lot's of teams playing lower quality opponents. Lot's of teams trying to figure out how new players fit in. Lot's of teams have new coaching staffs (Crabs, FCA, Hawks) that have only had maybe 10 practices with their squads. I don't think you can draw too many conclusions on these teams or crown a hoco champion just yet.

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So how does that work for Fusions? I noticed on the roster that there are players that play on fusions and other high level teams. For example a player that is both on Fusions and Hawks. Is fusions a composite team of all stars and invites or a stable year round team? Are they a team carrying multiple holdbacks?This a serious question not looking to start BS convo.
Their two best offensive players are holdbacks (midfielder and left attack - actually both of their lefty attack are holdbacks, one just happens to be significantly better than the other).

No shortage of people in the world looking for shortcuts or ways to cheat their way to the top

And how is that a problem when half the MIAA is holdbacks ? Get real.

in the MIAA, the rule is that you have to start the school year as a 18 year old your senior year.

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So how does that work for Fusions? I noticed on the roster that there are players that play on fusions and other high level teams. For example a player that is both on Fusions and Hawks. Is fusions a composite team of all stars and invites or a stable year round team? Are they a team carrying multiple holdbacks?This a serious question not looking to start BS convo.
Their two best offensive players are holdbacks (midfielder and left attack - actually both of their lefty attack are holdbacks, one just happens to be significantly better than the other).

No shortage of people in the world looking for shortcuts or ways to cheat their way to the top

And how is that a problem when half the MIAA is holdbacks ? Get real.

in the MIAA, the rule is that you have to start the school year as a 18 year old your senior year.

Yes , MIAA rules require only single Holdbacks college Freshman age to play their last year of MIAA. That is what the majority are, but I know of a few players that were double holdbacks in the last few years. Coaches turned a blind eye. One just graduated last year. Wasnt really that good , ok, but did get recruited to play in college.

It is the rare case but does happen, and they are not the superstars who make an impact but are decent players , as they should be, being the same age as sophs in college.

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So how does that work for Fusions? I noticed on the roster that there are players that play on fusions and other high level teams. For example a player that is both on Fusions and Hawks. Is fusions a composite team of all stars and invites or a stable year round team? Are they a team carrying multiple holdbacks?This a serious question not looking to start BS convo.
Their two best offensive players are holdbacks (midfielder and left attack - actually both of their lefty attack are holdbacks, one just happens to be significantly better than the other).

No shortage of people in the world looking for shortcuts or ways to cheat their way to the top

And how is that a problem when half the MIAA is holdbacks ? Get real.

in the MIAA, the rule is that you have to start the school year as a 18 year old your senior year.
Shhhh don't ruin it for them. Not that facts matter to that crowd anyway. It's all about the feels and the GLORY!

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