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I agree 100%. My daughter is on TG black and the purple team is probably a better team in her age bracket. I .find it very sad that some of the over the top parents feel that there kid has to be on black. Give me a break.!! My daughters friends play on YJ teams 3&4 and they both got 3/4 rides to D1 schools. So again it doesn't matter which team you end up on , be proud that your child made a team . They are all equally strong.

I don't remember anyone saying they divide the talent equally among all 3 teams, but if they did, that's incorrect. However, a few people, who seem to be involved in white and purple teams, correctly pointed out that the talent between white and purple may be similar. After they fill the black team, with whoever they think are the BEST players, they'll attempt to field two competitive teams, with purple and white. They're looking for an A, and two B's, not A, B, and C.

No way is the talent equally divided among the three. But no way is it the top 24 players on black, then next best 24 on purple and so on. The black team could easily be made better by trading out bottom 1/3 with white and purple. That is the point, they have left a good amount of talent on the other teams which is great. If you think every player on black is better than all the kids on the other two teams you are clueless. Every team needs the players who will take a back seat to the top players come crunch time. Every team has those fill out players. Seriously ask the parents of the studs on the team if they think the bottom of the roster could be improved. Not trying to be mean here, but trying to enlight some disillusioned parents out there.

Talk about clueless. Have a discussion with those that determine the teams, I have. They try to put the best 24 players on black period. Do they get it wrong sometimes or are some of the stud players parents opinions different from theirs , yes. Do not fool yourself and think they have on purpose left a good amount of talent on purple and white , that is just not the case. Yes sometimes politics and positions make a difference in my opinion easier to make higher team as a dedicated defender and you probably have a few middies on lower teams that could step in and help on defense.

My daughter made purple. She can easily play black. Didn't have the best tryout. That's the way it goes. Next year will hopefully turn out better. Move on

So says the parent of every girl on purple...............

Elevate is all girls

So says the parent of every girl on purple...............

I agree 100%. My daughter is on TG black and the purple team is probably a better team in her age bracket. I .find it very sad that some of the over the top parents feel that there kid has to be on black. Give me a break.!! My daughters friends play on YJ teams 3&4 and they both got 3/4 rides to D1 schools. So again it doesn't matter which team you end up on , be proud that your child made a team . They are all equally strong.

The purple team only played tougher teams at the Hofstra Tournament, which the brackets were set up so that Black could have a cake walk to the finals to play Elevate.
The purple team was a joke for the majority of the season and ended winning all their games in Deleware while every competitive team at the 2017 age bracket was in Richmond. The parents were going crazy, paying for extra practices rolling their eyes at the complete lack of coaching until Andrew Smith finally was put in place. Taking away the previous year coach completely hurt them at the start of the season as her replacement was likely a decent player somewhere but not a force with regard to coaching.
The Smiths will likely pay attention now as the team is at the HS level, growing pains.
The white team is not a second B team, they are a C team and the expansion was made to not let potential players walk to other teams as they are just 9th graders and there is an opportunity to move up, all very smart business moves as is being the first tryouts each year.
Here is where it gets interesting, how many parents will send in that $500 check before the other Teams tryouts ?
I know personally that a group of the Purple girls that were demoted (yes it stings, but very true) to White are looking elsewhere.
As for recruiting, if you want your daughter playing D1 at a Top Ranked school thats great, she will give up a great deal of the college experience to be somewhat owned by the program. The expanse of the sport to the Mid West presents an opportunity for girls to play at amazing schools and get a great education. If in fact they as Long Islanders take advantage of new College programs they will likely be leaders on these teams, and possibly in their lives, what better lesson than that for a young woman in society today. If your here for anything more than putting a smile on your childs face and learning what a team is you got it all wrong, thats why its called a GAME !!!!!

The purple team only played tougher teams at the Hofstra Tournament, which the brackets were set up so that Black could have a cake walk to the finals to play Elevate.
The purple team was a joke for the majority of the season and ended winning all their games in Deleware while every competitive team at the 2017 age bracket was in Richmond. The parents were going crazy, paying for extra practices rolling their eyes at the complete lack of coaching until Andrew Smith finally was put in place. Taking away the previous year coach completely hurt them at the start of the season as her replacement was likely a decent player somewhere but not a force with regard to coaching.
The Smiths will likely pay attention now as the team is at the HS level, growing pains.
The white team is not a second B team, they are a C team and the expansion was made to not let potential players walk to other teams as they are just 9th graders and there is an opportunity to move up, all very smart business moves as is being the first tryouts each year.
Here is where it gets interesting, how many parents will send in that $500 check before the other Teams tryouts ?
I know personally that a group of the Purple girls that were demoted (yes it stings, but very true) to White are looking elsewhere.
As for recruiting, if you want your daughter playing D1 at a Top Ranked school thats great, she will give up a great deal of the college experience to be somewhat owned by the program. The expanse of the sport to the Mid West presents an opportunity for girls to play at amazing schools and get a great education. If in fact they as Long Islanders take advantage of new College programs they will likely be leaders on these teams, and possibly in their lives, what better lesson than that for a young woman in society today. If your here for anything more than putting a smile on your childs face and learning what a team is you got it all wrong, thats why its called a GAME !!!!!

I know this to be true. A black player on 2015 makes the team every year, not because she is good but because of the town she lives in and the close relationship to the coach, this same girl did not make her varsity high school team until she was a sophomore, and barley got any playing time. A purple player in the same year made varsity as a freshman and gets extensive playing time. It is not fir me to make up anyones mind, but this seems to concur that in Top Guns, it's not how well you play but who you know

When a kid make varsity doesn't really give an indication of how good they are. You need to provide more information. What HS?. A kid could play varsity as a freshman in one place and never make it somewhere else.

So that's your excuse for TG teams losing to Elevate after saying none if the teams are comparable? Sounds like you are the dreamer after all......

What are you talking about? TG 2017 Black beat Elevate

When a kid make varsity doesn't really give an indication of how good they are. You need to provide more information. What HS?. A kid could play varsity as a freshman in one place and never make it somewhere else.

I would be interested to hear how many new players tried out for TG (2017 -u15) who either
A). played JV (& had an impact) or
B). played Varsity in '13
for a Suffolk or Nassau championship (or semi final) team and actually got picked for Black / Purple / White.

Or how many new girls from these powerhouse towns tried out for the first time to TG and made the team.

Farmingdale
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Garden City
Manhasset
Northport
West Islip
ESM
St A
Mt siani
Sayville
East Islip
wantaugh
Massapequa

OF THE 14 TOWNS ABOVE IF EACH TEAM AVG 5/6 STARS THEN YOU HAVE APPROX 80 PLAYERS ENOUGH FOR 4 QUALITY a TEAMS FOR ALL THE PROGRAMS TO SELECT FROM.

Elevate beat Top Guns at National Draw in a full game. Top Guns beat Elevate by 1 goal in a 25 minutes game at Top Guns own tournament. Not an excuse - just exactly what it was.

Yes, the check is going in, but she'll be staying on Black, but we have friends on both Purple and White and they have both spoke of possibly looking elsewhere.
There are girls headed to White from Purple that are not happy and that is from the Parents mouths.
People will do whats best for their child in most cases.

I guess the bottom line on all this will be decided when TG sends a U15 team to Nationals and all those studs from the Purple and White team are on the squad.

First YJ, not Elevate people, coming here, picking fights? Why are we even talking about Elevate vs. TG??? Who cares? They're both good programs...

Let's hear from those who have already been to the U15 tourny- did TG take the entire black team? Were any purple girls on the team?

I guess the bottom line on all this will be decided when TG sends a U15 team to Nationals and all those studs from the Purple and White team are on the squad.

When the 2015 team went, it was mostly 2015 black but not all made the team, a few 2015 purple and a few girls from the older and younger teams, not sure which color.

Let's hear from those who have already been to the U15 tourny- did TG take the entire black team? Were any purple girls on the team?