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Long Island 91 Shock with players from Texas, Maryland, Connecticut, oh and some from New York - LI and Westchester

It’s travel lacrosse, correct? I didn’t know you can only have players from LI. Go back to PAL.

Ok tough guy when you have 20-25 players that show up to all the practices and don’t play on some weekend tournament days
Because you don’t actually know who’s on your team day to day….

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Long Island 91 Shock with players from Texas, Maryland, Connecticut, oh and some from New York - LI and Westchester

It’s travel lacrosse, correct? I didn’t know you can only have players from LI. Go back to PAL.

Ok tough guy when you have 20-25 players that show up to all the practices and don’t play on some weekend tournament days
Because you don’t actually know who’s on your team day to day….

That’s a choice correct? If that’s bothersome to player/parent, then that is their parents fault for putting or keeping their son in that situation. Great thing about travel lax if don’t like that teams recruit out of state then you simply leave. Again, this isn’t the WSYL or PAL where zip codes matter. It’s travel and at the end of the day these clubs care about winning, nothing else.

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Yes it’s travel, but also lots of money. So when your kid makes the team, he practices hard, attends all the practices. Attends all the additional add on trainings. Attends all the more money box league stuff. Does everything he is supposed to do. He earns his playing time the rite way. Then out of the blue some strange kid from Pittsburgh shows up our tournaments, takes playing time from your kid. You’re trying to tell me this is how it’s supposed to be. Also how do you leave team you paid several thousand dollars too. Just go to another team and pay again. I don’t understand how some people find this normal.

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Yes it’s travel, but also lots of money. So when your kid makes the team, he practices hard, attends all the practices. Attends all the additional add on trainings. Attends all the more money box league stuff. Does everything he is supposed to do. He earns his playing time the rite way. Then out of the blue some strange kid from Pittsburgh shows up our tournaments, takes playing time from your kid. You’re trying to tell me this is how it’s supposed to be. Also how do you leave team you paid several thousand dollars too. Just go to another team and pay again. I don’t understand how some people find this normal.


Time is short for this group when you think about it. Yes, you cut bait and leave in my opinion, tuition payments are usually spread out.. Or if your club has a 2nd team, move down. Nothing else matters than being in the field for next summer and next fall. Make the change now before you regret it in the summer, while leaving a tournament in the summer and trying to keep it positive in the car ride home for your son.

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At this point Travel is just extra exposure HS ball is key. As always, if a parent dont like a situation, do something about it...If not, take it like chump and remain quiet.

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At this point Travel is just extra exposure HS ball is key. As always, if a parent dont like a situation, do something about it...If not, take it like chump and remain quiet.
Anyone who thinks HS ball is key is lost. With a few exceptions, most HS teams [Censored]. It's actually difficult to watch. You have players that can barely catch and throw on some teams.

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Thank you for your input Lax Director... At the end of the day, HS, Travel, etc: In 6 more years these kids will be working 9-5 and those Lax sticks will be a distant memory. Deal with it.

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At this point Travel is just extra exposure HS ball is key. As always, if a parent dont like a situation, do something about it...If not, take it like chump and remain quiet.
Anyone who thinks HS ball is key is lost. With a few exceptions, most HS teams [Censored]. It's actually difficult to watch. You have players that can barely catch and throw on some teams.
Next HS game tell your kid you're staying home. How about supporting them for playing a game they love, maybe even show some community spirit. Regardless of whether the hs team is good or bad, these kids will remember playing with their hs buddies and cherish them the most. They'll barely remember their cut throat back stabbing club lacrosse days.

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At this point Travel is just extra exposure HS ball is key. As always, if a parent dont like a situation, do something about it...If not, take it like chump and remain quiet.
Anyone who thinks HS ball is key is lost. With a few exceptions, most HS teams [Censored]. It's actually difficult to watch. You have players that can barely catch and throw on some teams.
Next HS game tell your kid you're staying home. How about supporting them for playing a game they love, maybe even show some community spirit. Regardless of whether the hs team is good or bad, these kids will remember playing with their hs buddies and cherish them the most. They'll barely remember their cut throat back stabbing club lacrosse days.

Just rich people looking to get ahead.

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At this point Travel is just extra exposure HS ball is key. As always, if a parent dont like a situation, do something about it...If not, take it like chump and remain quiet.
Anyone who thinks HS ball is key is lost. With a few exceptions, most HS teams [Censored]. It's actually difficult to watch. You have players that can barely catch and throw on some teams.
Next HS game tell your kid you're staying home. How about supporting them for playing a game they love, maybe even show some community spirit. Regardless of whether the hs team is good or bad, these kids will remember playing with their hs buddies and cherish them the most. They'll barely remember their cut throat back stabbing club lacrosse days.

Just rich people looking to get ahead.

Wow this devolved quickly. People talking past each other.Not hearing the other side.Agree with poster 2 but OP has some merit. If the goal is to play in college bit of both from our experience but side more that club is needed. For my oldest club was the most important by far. He played for a top five high school and no kid saw the field for real minutes until junior year. If he had not played club Sept 1 the phone wouldnt have ringed. Because he played for a top club team he got a lot of calls. If you play for a bad high school team and the goal is college lax then club is important. And if you play for a good high school team unless you are a top five NY or MD HS there are less looks and again club is important if college is the goal. Recruiting happens at the big tournaments and showcases. Make sure your club has a great recent history of recruiting. Be skeptical and ask questions and make sure club isnt hanging there hat on recruits from ten years ago or something like that. Recent recruits and success stories. Recruiting director and all. Good luck.

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Long Island 91 Shock with players from Texas, Maryland, Connecticut, oh and some from New York - LI and Westchester

It’s travel lacrosse, correct? I didn’t know you can only have players from LI. Go back to PAL.

Ok tough guy when you have 20-25 players that show up to all the practices and don’t play on some weekend tournament days
Because you don’t actually know who’s on your team day to day….

Don’t forget California!!!
If you want to be the best, you need to play with the best!
A rising tide…..

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Long Island 91 Shock with players from Texas, Maryland, Connecticut, oh and some from New York - LI and Westchester

It’s travel lacrosse, correct? I didn’t know you can only have players from LI. Go back to PAL.

Ok tough guy when you have 20-25 players that show up to all the practices and don’t play on some weekend tournament days
Because you don’t actually know who’s on your team day to day….


My guess is in Florida this weekend both Express and 91 had their out of staters “travel” there. Why? It’s travel lacrosse…. I hope the families that have kids that show up to every practice enjoyed Disney or the [Censored] time minutes. Don’t worry, I think college coaches don’t know the difference between quality minutes and mop up minutes.

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So obviously an elite event put on by the IMCLA this weekend. Why didn’t they separate A vs AA like they did for the 24s? Huge gap from the bracket teams. S2S, Rebels and Legrush Elite, are all decent teams, but 0-9 vs the elites.

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Its great to be a Rebel...LOL

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Express-12 v Shock-4

Big win for Express

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Express-12 v Shock-4

Big win for Express

How did that happen?

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Its great to be a Rebel...LOL

The tourney organizers should have made A and AA because after Shock and Express (and Igloo if they are there) those teams can’t compete at that level, that was true for half the teams down there. The fact remains that teams that don’t recruit nationally can’t compete with only local talent, to saturated. Ex. 91 2026 now is an elite team again because they recruited beyond Long Island. Which is fine because it’s a travel sport and sure Express welcomes the competition since they beat everybody else easily.

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Express catching on. There roster was suddenly full of out of state players this weekend.

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It was great! Went down with 1/2 team and some fillers and kids played well in front of hundreds of coaches… scores don’t matter!

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It was great! Went down with 1/2 team and some fillers and kids played well in front of hundreds of coaches… scores don’t matter!

You happen to be right. Scores don't matter. Individuals with talent will be seen... but newsflash; NOBODY IS LOOKING AT 2025'S SERIOUSLY YET. It's was a great weekend, lots of national level talent but take it for what it is, a winter event. I know of several top tier players who didn't come because they're playing basketball. For the record Igloo is not on the same level at Exp and 91, fact.

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Its great to be a Rebel...LOL


It was great! Went down with 1/2 team and some fillers and kids played well in front of hundreds of coaches… scores don’t matter!

You happen to be right. Scores don't matter. Individuals with talent will be seen... but newsflash; NOBODY IS LOOKING AT 2025'S SERIOUSLY YET. It's was a great weekend, lots of national level talent but take it for what it is, a winter event. I know of several top tier players who didn't come because they're playing basketball. For the record Igloo is not on the same level at Exp and 91, fact.

Tell that to coach Tillman and coach Bocklett

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Rebels isnt even a B team at this point. Their "B" team would beat the team they sent to Fl this weekend. That's a lot of $ and time to fly to FL to get humiliated. And they got worse each game. Great job by the coaches too. Hey, at least their kids got to play. As for recruiting, the highlights were plentiful: "If you had a Rebels jersey, Here's what NOT to do"

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Hey genius, Scores do matter especially when team team CANT SCORE. Highlights of kids slamming their sticks or dropping their heads wont land them a scholarship to a sanitation job nonetheless the ever elusive "Full Ride" to Duke.

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Its great to be a Rebel...LOL


It was great! Went down with 1/2 team and some fillers and kids played well in front of hundreds of coaches… scores don’t matter!

You happen to be right. Scores don't matter. Individuals with talent will be seen... but newsflash; NOBODY IS LOOKING AT 2025'S SERIOUSLY YET. It's was a great weekend, lots of national level talent but take it for what it is, a winter event. I know of several top tier players who didn't come because they're playing basketball. For the record Igloo is not on the same level at Exp and 91, fact.

Tell that to coach Tillman and coach Bocklett
Because they made your kid an offer, right. Get real, 2025 recruiting journey doesn't begin until the summer of 2023. Sure you're on their watch list but so is every other kid.

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Express-12 v Shock-4

Big win for Express

How did that happen?

These rosters are all full of elite HS players and all can beat each other. It’s not about how? Every game is different.

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It was great! Went down with 1/2 team and some fillers and kids played well in front of hundreds of coaches… scores don’t matter!

You happen to be right. Scores don't matter. Individuals with talent will be seen... but newsflash; NOBODY IS LOOKING AT 2025'S SERIOUSLY YET. It's was a great weekend, lots of national level talent but take it for what it is, a winter event. I know of several top tier players who didn't come because they're playing basketball. For the record Igloo is not on the same level at Exp and 91, fact.

Maybe true, but Igloo is a solid team and my guess is they will have many kids recruited a year from now. Which means some kids that aren’t starters on the elite teams would probably see more productive minutes on other teams if they were on those teams. So it begs the question AA vs A. Wouldn’t you want your son on a A team vs AA if it meant a lot more meaningful minutes? Because clubs like Igloo, S2S and Legrush have shown that they do a good job with commitments.

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Its great to be a Rebel...LOL


It was great! Went down with 1/2 team and some fillers and kids played well in front of hundreds of coaches… scores don’t matter!

You happen to be right. Scores don't matter. Individuals with talent will be seen... but newsflash; NOBODY IS LOOKING AT 2025'S SERIOUSLY YET. It's was a great weekend, lots of national level talent but take it for what it is, a winter event. I know of several top tier players who didn't come because they're playing basketball. For the record Igloo is not on the same level at Exp and 91, fact.

Maybe true, but Igloo is a solid team and my guess is they will have many kids recruited a year from now. Which means some kids that aren’t starters on the elite teams would probably see more productive minutes on other teams if they were on those teams. So it begs the question AA vs A. Wouldn’t you want your son on a A team vs AA if it meant a lot more meaningful minutes? Because clubs like Igloo, S2S and Legrush have shown that they do a good job with commitments.

Still learning here - has there always been AA, A and B teams or is the A the new B?

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Still learning here - has there always been AA, A and B teams or is the A the new B?

It's the new way of saying A and B without offending anyone. Also the proliferation of national clubs has also put a few teams over the top in terms of elite players

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Still learning here - has there always been AA, A and B teams or is the A the new B?

It's the new way of saying A and B without offending anyone. Also the proliferation of national clubs has also put a few teams over the top in terms of elite players

More like there like seven A teams on Long Island, but no team on Long Island can beat the top two teams. So they now look at those two as AA. For example, Legrush at this age is A and their second team is B. At 2024 their top team is AA and their second team is A. Make sense now.

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Still learning here - has there always been AA, A and B teams or is the A the new B?

It's the new way of saying A and B without offending anyone. Also the proliferation of national clubs has also put a few teams over the top in terms of elite players

Simple:

AA = Holdbacks
A = On age.

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Stop with the holdbacks already. If your son plays varsity he is playing against older kids and no Parents are complaining about that while they purchase all the team merch....

"A" teams seem to be comprised of kids that are more "serious" and enjoy (in some cases) practicing 3x a week year round and enjoy going to Florida to play the same teams that they can play here on Long Island.

The "A" teams also foster more of the nutty parents that cant talk about anything else but their own kid and their Lax attributes . They are also the ones screaming on sidelines blurting out ridiculous slogans like "Wheels" or "Good time"

Let me know if there are any further questions.

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My 2025 son is a very late bloomer and hasn’t hit his spurt yet. He is about 5 5 130 and will likely end up about 6 foot according to doctor. Voice hasn’t changed yet. He probably has the talent to play mid level D1 according to his coaches but they said because of his size he might get overlooked this summer. Club coach suggested that if he really wants to play D1 that he plays for a 2026 club team and do a PG year after HS which would make him a 2026 recruit. This seems like cheating to me but I see how that can make sense. Thoughts? Thanks

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My 2025 son is a very late bloomer and hasn’t hit his spurt yet. He is about 5 5 130 and will likely end up about 6 foot according to doctor. Voice hasn’t changed yet. He probably has the talent to play mid level D1 according to his coaches but they said because of his size he might get overlooked this summer. Club coach suggested that if he really wants to play D1 that he plays for a 2026 club team and do a PG year after HS which would make him a 2026 recruit. This seems like cheating to me but I see how that can make sense. Thoughts? Thanks

Why would he suggest playing 2026 if he is a 2025 ? That is called CHEATING. Why not let him play 2025 until HS is over? If your son chooses to do a PG year and develops physically and is good he will get recruited.

My 2025 son played club lax up until a year ago fir a good club. He is a goalie and is pretty good but has not hit a big growth spurt yet. He is 5'6 and 120lbs soaking wet. His club coach asked him to reclass (the Coach's kid was also reclassing). My wife and I talked with our son about it and he looked at us like we had two heads when realizing he would leave his friends and repeat 8th grade. He is also a very good student.

After our discussion he decided to leave club lax entirely and focus on the sport he loved the most, soccer. He changed soccer clubs and is on a very competitive team. His coach is a division 1 college coach for over 30 years for a local college. And his team plays in two leagues, one on age and one UP. His coach tells the boys you want to get better, you have to play against bigger and stronger kids.

Lax is such a cesspool it is disgusting. It is the only sport where kids play DOWN and pound their chests. It is a shame because I love the sport but it is unwatchable now with all the slimy people involved.

Good luck to your son in whatever choice he makes. But remember most of these club coaches really could care less about the kids, it all about marketing the Club name.

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My 2025 son is a very late bloomer and hasn’t hit his spurt yet. He is about 5 5 130 and will likely end up about 6 foot according to doctor. Voice hasn’t changed yet. He probably has the talent to play mid level D1 according to his coaches but they said because of his size he might get overlooked this summer. Club coach suggested that if he really wants to play D1 that he plays for a 2026 club team and do a PG year after HS which would make him a 2026 recruit. This seems like cheating to me but I see how that can make sense. Thoughts? Thanks

We are in similar predicament. Would love to hear if anyone else took this route and how it worked out.

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[quote=Anonymous]My 2025 son is a very late bloomer and hasn’t hit his spurt yet. He is about 5 5 130 and will likely end up about 6 foot according to doctor. Voice hasn’t changed yet. He probably has the talent to play mid level D1 according to his coaches but they said because of his size he might get overlooked this summer. Club coach suggested that if he really wants to play D1 that he plays for a 2026 club team and do a PG year after HS which would make him a 2026 recruit. This seems like cheating to me but I see how that can make sense. Thoughts? Thanks

Why would he suggest playing 2026 if he is a 2025 ? That is called CHEATING. Why not let him play 2025 until HS is over? If your son chooses to do a PG year and develops physically and is good he will get recruited.

My 2025 son played club lax up until a year ago fir a good club. He is a goalie and is pretty good but has not hit a big growth spurt yet. He is 5'6 and 120lbs soaking wet. His club coach asked him to reclass (the Coach's kid was also reclassing). My wife and I talked with our son about it and he looked at us like we had two heads when realizing he would leave his friends and repeat 8th grade. He is also a very good student.

After our discussion he decided to leave club lax entirely and focus on the sport he loved the most, soccer. He changed soccer clubs and is on a very competitive team. His coach is a division 1 college coach for over 30 years for a local college. And his team plays in two leagues, one on age and one UP. His coach tells the boys you want to get better, you have to play against bigger and stronger kids.

Lax is such a cesspool it is disgusting. It is the only sport where kids play DOWN and pound their chests. It is a shame because I love the sport but it is unwatchable now with all the slimy people involved.

Good luck to your son in whatever choice he makes. But remember most of these club coaches really could care less about the kids, it all about marketing the Club name.[/quote

If he is going to PG he should play 2025 then switch to 2026 when he is a rising senior. If he stays with 2025 that summer he will only get seen by D3 coaches.

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When you reclassify you have to repeat the Grade level education again Id assume?

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When you reclassify you have to repeat the Grade level education again Id assume?

Usually yes. For PG kids they usually switch teams when they are rising seniors to reflect that they are doing another year of HS.

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When you reclassify you have to repeat the Grade level education again Id assume?

If you are asking this question maybe you should have reclassed yourself when you were younger

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Thats ridiculous Why would a parent do that to their kid? For the Lax Glory? If you cant understand that then maybe you should have reclassified...

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[quote=Anonymous]My 2025 son is a very late bloomer and hasn’t hit his spurt yet. He is about 5 5 130 and will likely end up about 6 foot according to doctor. Voice hasn’t changed yet. He probably has the talent to play mid level D1 according to his coaches but they said because of his size he might get overlooked this summer. Club coach suggested that if he really wants to play D1 that he plays for a 2026 club team and do a PG year after HS which would make him a 2026 recruit. This seems like cheating to me but I see how that can make sense. Thoughts? Thanks

Why would he suggest playing 2026 if he is a 2025 ? That is called CHEATING. Why not let him play 2025 until HS is over? If your son chooses to do a PG year and develops physically and is good he will get recruited.

My 2025 son played club lax up until a year ago fir a good club. He is a goalie and is pretty good but has not hit a big growth spurt yet. He is 5'6 and 120lbs soaking wet. His club coach asked him to reclass (the Coach's kid was also reclassing). My wife and I talked with our son about it and he looked at us like we had two heads when realizing he would leave his friends and repeat 8th grade. He is also a very good student.

After our discussion he decided to leave club lax entirely and focus on the sport he loved the most, soccer. He changed soccer clubs and is on a very competitive team. His coach is a division 1 college coach for over 30 years for a local college. And his team plays in two leagues, one on age and one UP. His coach tells the boys you want to get better, you have to play against bigger and stronger kids.

Lax is such a cesspool it is disgusting. It is the only sport where kids play DOWN and pound their chests. It is a shame because I love the sport but it is unwatchable now with all the slimy people involved.

Good luck to your son in whatever choice he makes. But remember most of these club coaches really could care less about the kids, it all about marketing the Club name.[/quote

If he is going to PG he should play 2025 then switch to 2026 when he is a rising senior. If he stays with 2025 that summer he will only get seen by D3 coaches.

True. The PG year allows a player to get another summer to be seen by D1 coaches. First as a rising junior on his HS grad year team and a second time as a rising senior playing for his PG grad year team. Sometimes late bloomer kids PG because they didn’t get recruited their junior year and think or were told that an additional year will give them time to grow which will get them noticed. Sometimes this works sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes a D1 coach will tell a kid that they liked them but don’t have room for them for their HS grad year but have a spot for them the following year. Sometimes a high academic coach will like a kid but his grades aren’t good enough and will suggest a PG year for that reason. Bottom line is that there are a number of reasons to PG and if you can afford to do it and your kid wants to do it there isn’t much of a downside to doing it other then the potential of not getting recruited to play D1 because you did it which happens sometimes.

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