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Boys 2021 Fall 2013/Summer 2014
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BOTC is opening our Fall 2013 through Summer 2014 thread covering the Boys 2021 (5th Grade) age group.

In order to introduce this year's thread, we are categorizing this age group's tryouts by date.

8/24, Outlaws, 1:00pm

9/7, fl$, 11:00am
9/7, Team 91, 12:00pm
9/7, Turf Island, 4:00pm
9/7, Revolution, 6:00pm
9/7, Blaze, 7:15pm
9/7, Team Igloo

9/8, fl$, 11:00am
9/8, Team Igloo

9/14, Legacy, 10:45am
9/14, Team 91, 12:00pm
9/14, Outlaws, 12:30pm
9/14, Jesters, 8:30pm
9/14, Team Igloo

9/15, Jesters, 8:30pm
9/15, Team Igloo

9/21, True Blue, 1:00pm

9/22, Legacy, 10:45am
9/22, True Blue, 4:00pm
9/22, Recon, 6:30pm

10/5, Revolution, 3:00pm

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Cage,

Thanks. Very usefull list. Would be even better if some one could drop in the tryout cost or total tuition for each program. Talk about eye opening.

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From what I can gather, some clubs dont have this info up yet

Igloo 2200 Helmet, gloves, sweats, uni, bag 14 2 hour winter sessions. 6 winter games, 10 spring games, 5 spring tournaments. I believe the roster stays under 20

legacy 1450 Helmet, gloves, bag uni , 12 prac 5 tourneys roster of 20

Riptide 995 pinnie, shirt , 6 tournaments 12 practices free speed school

Outlaws 1900 uni, helmet 6 tourneys, 16 practices, spring league roster of under 24

91 1425 gloves, uni 2 day camp 14 practices 5 tourneys

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anyone agree or disagree ?

2021 team ranking

91 orange
igloo
express wolverines
turf island A
team LI A
tomahawks
true blue
dune dawgs
91 white
riptide
jesters
outlaws
legacy
millon force
rough riders



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Each program is killing the other.all tryouts on same days its stupid.especially if you are a smaller outfit.
wait until end of Sept to scoop up those that rushed into the cesspool

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Your rankings are way off!!!! Try again...

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone agree or disagree ?

2021 team ranking

91 orange
igloo
express wolverines
turf island A
team LI A
tomahawks
true blue
dune dawgs
91 white
riptide
jesters
outlaws
legacy
millon force
rough riders

DISAgree Igloo is much better than Team 91 orange. Team LI beat 91 orange in the last tourney.

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Does this ranking affect next year's draft order?
Get a grip. Season's over. This was posted by obvious 91 peps.
91 orange is the bestest. And coolestest. And orangest.
Enjoy the summer!

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Again, funny stuff!

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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anyone agree or disagree ?

2021 team ranking

91 orange
igloo
express wolverines
turf island A
team LI A
tomahawks
true blue
dune dawgs
91 white
riptide
jesters
outlaws
legacy
millon force
rough riders

DISAgree Igloo is much better than Team 91 orange. Team LI beat 91 orange in the last tourney.


Where do Wildcatz fit in?

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone agree or disagree ?

2021 team ranking

91 orange
igloo
express wolverines
turf island A
team LI A
tomahawks
true blue
dune dawgs
91 white
riptide
jesters
outlaws
legacy
millon force
rough riders

DISAgree Igloo is much better than Team 91 orange. Team LI beat 91 orange in the last tourney.


Where do Wildcatz fit in?


Igloo has never lost in a tournament to 91 or any other team on the list but if I were wearing 91 glasses I would agree with the list....btw...91 is behind team LI and wildlatz and turf island. But again those expensive funny looking 91 glasses can aler your view.

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anyone agree or disagree ?

2021 team ranking

91 orange
igloo
express wolverines
turf island A
team LI A
tomahawks
true blue
dune dawgs
91 white
riptide
jesters
outlaws
legacy
millon force
rough riders

DISAgree Igloo is much better than Team 91 orange. Team LI beat 91 orange in the last tourney.


Where do Wildcatz fit in?


True Rankings
1. igloo
2. 91 orange
3. Team LI
4. Express Wolverines
5. Wildcats
6. Turf Island "A" ???
7. LI Tomahawks
8. Jesters
9. Legacy
10. Havoc/DD
11. Riptide
12. True Blue
13. 91"white"
14. Outlaws
Rough riders
Millon Force

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anyone agree or disagree ?

2021 team ranking

91 orange
igloo
express wolverines
turf island A
team LI A
tomahawks
true blue
dune dawgs
91 white
riptide
jesters
outlaws
legacy
millon force
rough riders

DISAgree Igloo is much better than Team 91 orange. Team LI beat 91 orange in the last tourney.


Where do Wildcatz fit in?


True Rankings
1. igloo
2. 91 orange
3. Team LI
4. Express Wolverines
5. Wildcats
6. Turf Island "A" ???
7. LI Tomahawks
8. Jesters
9. Legacy
10. Havoc/DD
11. Riptide
12. True Blue
13. 91"white"
14. Outlaws
Rough riders
Millon Force


I think that this is a pretty fair order! Although Team Long Island could be placed ahead of 91.

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I agree....Team LI 2021 could be placed 2nd above 91. The rest of the list looks fair!!

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I agree....Team LI 2021 could be placed 2nd above 91. The rest of the list looks fair!!


Fair But I would switch spots with Riptide and Lagacy then drop Lagacy behind True Blue.

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Saw True Blue play and they are better than Riptide and Jesters but probably got hurt playing in A tournaments. Just an observation have no horse in this race.

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Express shouldn't even be in the top five...and wildkatz need to move down a few

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Express shouldn't even be in the top five...and wildkatz need to move down a few


I dont know about Express not being top 5 , if we say for the sake of argument that Igloo, 91 , Turf Island are better thats only 3. They beat TLI . WHo bumos them out of the top 5?

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Express shouldn't even be in the top five...and wildkatz need to move down a few


I dont know about Express not being top 5 , if we say for the sake of argument that Igloo, 91 , Turf Island are better thats only 3. They beat TLI . WHo bumos them out of the top 5?

Heard turf island 2021 "a" team is splitting up. Any truth to that?

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No you're wrong about that.

If you were at the the Stony Brook Lax Clash and saw how close the games were, it was great. Express Wolverines, 91, and Team LI, CT Chargers...One team beating another in different combinations so nobody was technically on top the first day. Mostly two goal games against each other.

Team LI beat 91
Express Wolverines beat Team LI
91 beat Express

It really was a perfect weekend of competition and any given day any team would have won. Exactly what this level of play is all about, for 2021 kids. Fun, tight games, that aren't blow outs, with sportsmanship all around.

Big shout out to all the teams. This year Team LI earned the big day on Sunday. Kudos to you guys, great job.

....now don't try to ruin it with any negative posts...

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No you're wrong about that.

If you were at the the Stony Brook Lax Clash and saw how close the games were, it was great. Express Wolverines, 91, and Team LI, CT Chargers...One team beating another in different combinations so nobody was technically on top the first day. Mostly two goal games against each other.

Team LI beat 91
Express Wolverines beat Team LI
91 beat Express

It really was a perfect weekend of competition and any given day any team would have won. Exactly what this level of play is all about, for 2021 kids. Fun, tight games, that aren't blow outs, with sportsmanship all around.

Big shout out to all the teams. This year Team LI earned the big day on Sunday. Kudos to you guys, great job.

....now don't try to ruin it with any negative posts...


And Igloo beat them all at one time or another!!!

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Lol...igloo beat them yet are still holding tryouts. Obviously some holes in their line up. Maybe instead of constantly pointing out who they beat you should worry about whether or not its your kid they're looking to replace.

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Wildkatz beat express easily indoors over the winter

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Lol...igloo beat them yet are still holding tryouts. Obviously some holes in their line up. Maybe instead of constantly pointing out who they beat you should worry about whether or not its your kid they're looking to replace.



Maybe, maybe not. Maybe a few kids who are in the bottom of Igloos talent pool want to go somewhere else and be top dog. Maybe they systematically do tryouts every year to assure getting the best available 20 kids . In any case, hats off to them , they are the best at their age right now

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Wildkatz beat express easily indoors over the winter


Everyone knows that Express split there team in half, alternating odd even weeks, for the winter season so you only faced half their team. the Wildcatz have been spouting this crap since before the travel season started, Bottom line, they couldnt beat any of the top A teams in a real game and they played in B bracket all year. As much as I hate Express please don't come on here and say your better then them, you not.

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Tweaked new 2021 Rankings

1. igloo
2. Team LI
3. 91 orange
4. Express Wolverines
5. Turf Island A
6. Wildcatz
7. LI Tomahawks
8. Jesters
9. Riptide
10. Havoc/DD
11. True Blue
12. 91"white"
13. Outlaws
14. Legacy
Rough riders
Millon Force

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Lol...igloo beat them yet are still holding tryouts. Obviously some holes in their line up. Maybe instead of constantly pointing out who they beat you should worry about whether or not its your kid they're looking to replace.


All the teams are holding Tryouts. Nothing wrong with getting better like the others.

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Wildkatz beat express easily indoors over the winter


How does one tryout for the Wildkatz? Where do they practice and what do you get at what cost? Is it full year? who would I contact ?

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JSwap Jesters and 91 White. , put the Yellow Jackets above the Outlaws and your right on
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Tweaked new 2021 Rankings .

1. igloo
2. Team LI
3. 91 orange
4. Express Wolverines
5. Turf Island A
6. Wildcatz
7. LI Tomahawks
8. Jesters
9. Riptide
10. Havoc/DD
11. True Blue
12. 91"white"
13. Outlaws
14. Legacy
Rough riders
Millon Force

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Wildkatz and turf island tied at 91 tournament at farmingdale in summer. I saw the game - wildkatz got the better of them. They're better than turf island even though turf island is a very good team and very well coached.

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They had there full team - it was a scrimmage. They lost and gotten beaten up - wasnt even close.

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They had there full team - it was a scrimmage. They lost and gotten beaten up - wasnt even close.


What teams are you talking about?

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woldkats beat express

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C'mon wildcats...we played both you and express, express is better...your on the cusp of an "A" team....

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woldkats beat express



When ? In the winter when EXpress splt their roster into two teams and rotated their players ? YOur a B team, you played B bracket all year. You have not beaten an A team in a tournament all summer PERIOD

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Who are the Wildcatz and where are they based. Can't find anything on BOTC

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Lol...igloo beat them yet are still holding tryouts. Obviously some holes in their line up. Maybe instead of constantly pointing out who they beat you should worry about whether or not its your kid they're looking to replace.


Stupid comment, every team has tryouts to pick the top players regardless of how good their team was the prior year. Every year some players dont return and better ones come along for ALL teams. I dont think parents of 10 year olds should spend too much time worrying about whether theur kid will be replaced. There are 20 good teams out there. Every kid finds a good team for him or her.

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woldkats beat express



When ? In the winter when EXpress splt their roster into two teams and rotated their players ? YOur a B team, you played B bracket all year. You have not beaten an A team in a tournament all summer PERIOD


Wildkats played "B" 1 time this year and it was a mistake. They killed every team and played a close game to a very tough 2022 Smash team in Stony Brook in which they won. Every other tournament they entered they played in "A" and did pretty well. Every time they played igloo they lost but the games were very close. Same with 91 orange except for the 1 playoff game in Farmingdale were Orange won 6-0. WIldkats tied a very good Turf Island team 6-6 this summer. Its hard to get a good indicator because very few teams enter the "A" bracket. Every tournament there are 15-20 teams in "B" and maybe 4-6 teams in "A". Give them some time. That team is not even a year old. As long as the bigger more well know travel teams don't pick off the 8-9 good players they have and they can add a few pieces they will be very dangerous.

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The above stuff was helpful and I think we all have an idea where all the teams fall give or take a few spots. Now with tryout season next month I hope that all you fine people can tell us about your team, What you got for your money this past year, the level of coaching, playing time, how many kids on the team, director info and if you would recommend your respective teams to others. This will help parents thinking of which teams to tryout for and for coaches/directors to see how they did this year and where to improve.

I will start with the 2021 Tomahawks: The program is a summer program with 8 to 10 summer practices and 4 tourneys. You are provided game shorts, game jersey and a shooting shirt for I think it was $975. However the coach added on his own a winter league and two more tournements for $180. So with tryouts the cost was about $1100. The coaches were great and all the kids got a lot better as did the team by the end of the summer. We had about 18 kids on the team and playing time was NOT even. They had great defense and middies but the attack could have been great too if the attack had more equal playing time. The attack players were all equal playing levels but some were on the field far too long. The director was not involved with this team at all. I hope next year he pays more attention to the team as he did with other teams. All the parents were great too with no fights or drama. I hope the "A" clubs don't take away our best 6 kids (middies and one attack & defenseman)so we can build for next year. I would recomend this team to anyone.

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Never heard anything good about the organization director of these mighty wildkatz. Always a problem. I believe PAL banished him to bogeyland last year or the year before.

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