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Ok anonymous ex-Liberty current YJ B parent!

The team rankings made on May 20th before the season are clear reasons why they play the games. But Liberty Black clearly was the upside surprise in the tournament and YJ-Stadler played the best team ball of the weekend.

Great day for Long Island lacrosse. And we all did not have to travel too far.

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There’s not enough good competitive teams to just play on Long Island. Top teams need to travel. Even the Maryland teams will travel.

Queen of the Island is this weekend. Both YJ teams will dominate.

Law of contrapositives states differently for the Gaghan squad.

If FLG beat Liberty Black then FLG is better.
If FLG beat Tradition then FLG is better.
If Tradition beat Gaghan then Tradition is better.
Therefore there is a high likelihood that Gaghan gets throttled by any team in the field.

It doesn't work like that in sports. It's all about matchups. I'm not saying that will be the case with YJ Gaghan, but it happens more than you'd think. Plus, teams playing a team they think to be significantly weaker, often play sloppy. Not always, but enough that there can be some surprises.

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Ok anonymous ex-Liberty current YJ B parent!

The team rankings made on May 20th before the season are clear reasons why they play the games. But Liberty Black clearly was the upside surprise in the tournament and YJ-Stadler played the best team ball of the weekend.

Great day for Long Island lacrosse. And we all did not have to travel too far.

Ok anonymous Liberty black parent. Whatever makes you feel better. You will continue to lose your top players. They want to be on the best team and it isn’t Liberty. This is when those shifts start to happen. Liberty is no longer a top A team.

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Ok YJA daddy. Your team wasn’t missing any of its top players so don’t make excuses. Also, since your team is so dominant and deep with talent, it shouldn’t really matter if you were missing any players.

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Don't read too much into results. Girls who are still playing with their high school teams couldn't play. This is likely why some of the YJA games were closer than you would expect.

Lol. Stop trolling. YJ parent here and we had everyone. The games we played were close because they are 12.

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Ok anonymous ex-Liberty current YJ B parent!

The team rankings made on May 20th before the season are clear reasons why they play the games. But Liberty Black clearly was the upside surprise in the tournament and YJ-Stadler played the best team ball of the weekend.

Great day for Long Island lacrosse. And we all did not have to travel too far.

Ok anonymous Liberty black parent. Whatever makes you feel better. You will continue to lose your top players. They want to be on the best team and it isn’t Liberty. This is when those shifts start to happen. Liberty is no longer a top A team.

Liberty tied FLG so they are right there

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Don't read too much into results. Girls who are still playing with their high school teams couldn't play. This is likely why some of the YJA games were closer than you would expect.

Lol. Stop trolling. YJ parent here and we had everyone. The games we played were close because they are 12.

12-14 on YJA

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Don't read too much into results. Girls who are still playing with their high school teams couldn't play. This is likely why some of the YJA games were closer than you would expect.

Lol. Stop trolling. YJ parent here and we had everyone. The games we played were close because they are 12.

So no girls on YJA are playing on their high school teams for playoffs?

Per NYSPHSAA rules, since they have played a club game during the high school season, their high school team would forfeit if they even dress for another game.

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Don't read too much into results. Girls who are still playing with their high school teams couldn't play. This is likely why some of the YJA games were closer than you would expect.

Lol. Stop trolling. YJ parent here and we had everyone. The games we played were close because they are 12.

So no girls on YJA are playing on their high school teams for playoffs?

Per NYSPHSAA rules, since they have played a club game during the high school season, their high school team would forfeit if they even dress for another game.

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Don't read too much into results. Girls who are still playing with their high school teams couldn't play. This is likely why some of the YJA games were closer than you would expect.

Lol. Stop trolling. YJ parent here and we had everyone. The games we played were close because they are 12.

So no girls on YJA are playing on their high school teams for playoffs?

Per NYSPHSAA rules, since they have played a club game during the high school season, their high school team would forfeit if they even dress for another game.


So if this is true then all the travel kids from last year and on , who played in several travel games , while in their HS season, they all had to forfeit those games, then a lot of good teams would of been knocked out of there playoffs then.

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How come we do not include two way players.
Score goals ground balls and of course play defense.
Complete players

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What does this mean even mean?

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Huge fan of 5 took players!

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Empire is going to have a wonderful tourney season!!!!

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The surprise teams from last weekend and as has been posted here a few months ago……Liberty but more so YJ Gaghan.

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The surprise teams from last weekend and as has been posted here a few months ago……Liberty but more so YJ Gaghan.

It's nice to see more parity amongst the 27's

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The surprise teams from last weekend and as has been posted here a few months ago……Liberty but more so YJ Gaghan.

It's nice to see more parity amongst the 27's

Agreed - lots of talent at this age group so let's for once be proud of LI lax instead of bashing kids. Should be a great summer

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The surprise teams from last weekend and as has been posted here a few months ago……Liberty but more so YJ Gaghan.

It's nice to see more parity amongst the 27's

Agreed - lots of talent at this age group so let's for once be proud of LI lax instead of bashing kids. Should be a great summer

Speaking of talent, does anyone have details on the LILJ Allstar game on June 15? Time/location/format?

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Another joke, kids only picked if they did Yellow jacket or LILJ events.

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Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.

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dense question— does anyone know which of the steps teams is their A team? I thought it was blue but white was in a higher bracket at lax by the sea.

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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

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Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.
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Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.


If their offense is designed to go 1 on 3 from top of the 12, then they executed quite well

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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

If a team plays a 2026 player should their opponent have the option of doing the same? Asking for a friend

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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

If a team plays a 2026 player should their opponent have the option of doing the same? Asking for a friend
They should be playing in a 26 division if they have a 26.

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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

If a team plays a 2026 player should their opponent have the option of doing the same? Asking for a friend
They should be playing in a 26 division if they have a 26.

I heard that happened too. It's not right and would detest to call out a team directly so I'll give a clue. "The transmission of customs or beliefs from generation to generation, or the fact of being passed on in this way." I hope playing ineligible players in sanctioned events doesn't become one of these.

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Who had a 2026 player?

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Sounds like tradition

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Who cares then

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Who had a 2026 player?

Sounds like a certain team from Garden City

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There are lots of teams the use the 2027 7th grade route while actually the girls age is that of the 2026 group, you can have 6 months to a year difference in some of the player and maybe more if the parents held the kids back.

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dense question— does anyone know which of the steps teams is their A team? I thought it was blue but white was in a higher bracket at lax by the sea.

After speaking with steps parents yesterday, it seems they split talent up equally. No A or B team. At least at 2027 and younger ages.

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Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.
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Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.


If their offense is designed to go 1 on 3 from top of the 12, then they executed quite well

Well, coaching is clearly a challenge for YJA, but I don't think it is the biggest challenge.

After watching them this Saturday and in the fall, for me the biggest challenge is roster composition. All of their starting attackers and middies (and several key backups) have incredibly individual talent -- probably the best on the island and some of the best in the nation.

Based on sum of talent, not sure any team in the country can compete. The problem is this -- every one of their 7 offensive starters in a ball dominant players, meaning they need the ball in their stick to be effective. They are at their best playing 1:1 and in a wide open game. the problem is that against any sophisticated and disciplined defense, this isn't enough.

You need people to cut off ball to strategically create space, you need to be able to feed effectively. Quite simply -- you need role players. If you watched YJB this weekend, you saw a completely different level of off-ball movement


YJA doesn't have them or at least doesn't have players willing to do this. With the current roster, this isn't a simple fix. Even if CR coached the team herself, while it would be much better, I am not sure they will win like they have in the past.

This doesn't mean they won't win any big games this summer. They defense is the strength of the team and their ride will create more than its fair share of turnovers -- which YJA can convert into scores as well as anyone. But stringing 5 or 6 games together to win tournaments will be tough.

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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

YJ A must have been missing some key players

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There are lots of teams the use the 2027 7th grade route while actually the girls age is that of the 2026 group, you can have 6 months to a year difference in some of the player and maybe more if the parents held the kids back.

Bringing a girl from the 2026 team to play while a goalie who is really a 2027 sits on the sideline because you don't think she's any good is a bit different.

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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

YJ A must have been missing some key players

nope

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mommy & daddy ball issues raised to management

big changes this coming weekend

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mommy & daddy ball issues raised to management

big changes this coming weekend

Not sure that they have problems that one practice can solve

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Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.
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Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.


If their offense is designed to go 1 on 3 from top of the 12, then they executed quite well

Well, coaching is clearly a challenge for YJA, but I don't think it is the biggest challenge.

After watching them this Saturday and in the fall, for me the biggest challenge is roster composition. All of their starting attackers and middies (and several key backups) have incredibly individual talent -- probably the best on the island and some of the best in the nation.

Based on sum of talent, not sure any team in the country can compete. The problem is this -- every one of their 7 offensive starters in a ball dominant players, meaning they need the ball in their stick to be effective. They are at their best playing 1:1 and in a wide open game. the problem is that against any sophisticated and disciplined defense, this isn't enough.

You need people to cut off ball to strategically create space, you need to be able to feed effectively. Quite simply -- you need role players. If you watched YJB this weekend, you saw a completely different level of off-ball movement


YJA doesn't have them or at least doesn't have players willing to do this. With the current roster, this isn't a simple fix. Even if CR coached the team herself, while it would be much better, I am not sure they will win like they have in the past.

This doesn't mean they won't win any big games this summer. They defense is the strength of the team and their ride will create more than its fair share of turnovers -- which YJA can convert into scores as well as anyone. But stringing 5 or 6 games together to win tournaments will be tough.

LMAO. Has Jenn Levy reached out to your daughter yet regarding playing for UNC in 7 years yet?

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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

If a team plays a 2026 player should their opponent have the option of doing the same? Asking for a friend
They should be playing in a 26 division if they have a 26.

I heard that happened too. It's not right and would detest to call out a team directly so I'll give a clue. "The transmission of customs or beliefs from generation to generation, or the fact of being passed on in this way." I hope playing ineligible players in sanctioned events doesn't become one of these.


At lax by the sea tradition had some 26 kids moving between 3 rosters. Guess you have to do what you have to do to win and get your name out there

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