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Re: NLF Rankings VS Inside Lacrosse
Reality101 #379231 05/14/22 11:48 PM
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Both NLF and inside lacrosse have issues. NLF is biased to their affiliates and the biggest issue with inside lacrosse is glaring and makes it a joke is Ty only watches MIAA lacrosse and realistically has no idea what’s going on in other regions As much as I dislike things NLF does IL is way worse

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Re: NLF Rankings VS Inside Lacrosse
Anonymous #380626 05/21/22 08:31 PM
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express North 2024 does not have a single players listed in the top 60 playesr

Express North does very little to promote their players nor do they help with recruiting.
Absolutely accurate

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Re: NLF Rankings VS Inside Lacrosse
Reality101 #380805 05/23/22 07:26 AM
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why do people pay to play for express north if they arent helping with recruiting?

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Re: NLF Rankings VS Inside Lacrosse
Anonymous #381027 05/23/22 07:28 PM
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why do people pay to play for express north if they arent helping with recruiting?
The smart ones who can play elsewhere leave

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Re: NLF Rankings VS Inside Lacrosse
Anonymous #381053 05/23/22 10:01 PM
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why do people pay to play for express north if they arent helping with recruiting?

They play in most of the top tournaments and thus the recruiting exposure occurs in that sense (passive recruiting, not active recruiting). They also usually play in a lot of tournaments as well (up to 5 sometimes). But it is definitely a club where all you get is good tournaments. Very little support from coaches or directors and very little promotion which you would think they would use names like Schreiber and Brameier to their advantage especially for recruiting but that I have heard is fairly non-existent. They also run anywhere from 2-4 teams per grade so it is a bit of a money churn. The other programs in the area usually have one team at the high school level (Preds, 2way, PrimeTime, eclipse). They are not quite at that level but above Ct Wolves and 91 TrIState. There are the new clubs Dragons and Calvary which will be interesting to see how they do in a crowded market.

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Re: NLF Rankings VS Inside Lacrosse
Anonymous #381255 05/24/22 03:51 PM
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why do people pay to play for express north if they arent helping with recruiting?

They play in most of the top tournaments and thus the recruiting exposure occurs in that sense (passive recruiting, not active recruiting). They also usually play in a lot of tournaments as well (up to 5 sometimes). But it is definitely a club where all you get is good tournaments. Very little support from coaches or directors and very little promotion which you would think they would use names like Schreiber and Brameier to their advantage especially for recruiting but that I have heard is fairly non-existent. They also run anywhere from 2-4 teams per grade so it is a bit of a money churn. The other programs in the area usually have one team at the high school level (Preds, 2way, PrimeTime, eclipse). They are not quite at that level but above Ct Wolves and 91 TrIState. There are the new clubs Dragons and Calvary which will be interesting to see how they do in a crowded market.
You don't think 2Way is a the same level as Express North... you are right because they are better.

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Anonymous #381297 05/24/22 08:39 PM
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why do people pay to play for express north if they arent helping with recruiting?

They play in most of the top tournaments and thus the recruiting exposure occurs in that sense (passive recruiting, not active recruiting). They also usually play in a lot of tournaments as well (up to 5 sometimes). But it is definitely a club where all you get is good tournaments. Very little support from coaches or directors and very little promotion which you would think they would use names like Schreiber and Brameier to their advantage especially for recruiting but that I have heard is fairly non-existent. They also run anywhere from 2-4 teams per grade so it is a bit of a money churn. The other programs in the area usually have one team at the high school level (Preds, 2way, PrimeTime, eclipse). They are not quite at that level but above Ct Wolves and 91 TrIState. There are the new clubs Dragons and Calvary which will be interesting to see how they do in a crowded market.
You don't think 2Way is a the same level as Express North... you are right because they are better.

No skin in the game in the 2way vs express north argument but I would imagine it would depend on what year you are talking about. The younger express north seem to be doing well but the high school 2Way teams seem stronger than their express north counterparts. When it came to college placement, I believe for 2021-2023s at least, 2Way has done very well with some high academic D1 placements. Both good programs but each with a different focus.

Anyone have the year by year comparison 2023-2029 as well as the 2020-2023 commit list?

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Anonymous #381333 05/25/22 08:39 AM
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why do people pay to play for express north if they arent helping with recruiting?

They play in most of the top tournaments and thus the recruiting exposure occurs in that sense (passive recruiting, not active recruiting). They also usually play in a lot of tournaments as well (up to 5 sometimes). But it is definitely a club where all you get is good tournaments. Very little support from coaches or directors and very little promotion which you would think they would use names like Schreiber and Brameier to their advantage especially for recruiting but that I have heard is fairly non-existent. They also run anywhere from 2-4 teams per grade so it is a bit of a money churn. The other programs in the area usually have one team at the high school level (Preds, 2way, PrimeTime, eclipse). They are not quite at that level but above Ct Wolves and 91 TrIState. There are the new clubs Dragons and Calvary which will be interesting to see how they do in a crowded market.
You don't think 2Way is a the same level as Express North... you are right because they are better.

No skin in the game in the 2way vs express north argument but I would imagine it would depend on what year you are talking about. The younger express north seem to be doing well but the high school 2Way teams seem stronger than their express north counterparts. When it came to college placement, I believe for 2021-2023s at least, 2Way has done very well with some high academic D1 placements. Both good programs but each with a different focus.

Anyone have the year by year comparison 2023-2029 as well as the 2020-2023 commit list?

Similarly, no skin in the game but a quick gander at the 23 class bc that’s the class that just committed shows it’s not even a comparison. Maybe I looked at the wrong express team but according to inside lacrosse, express north has one commit going to Army. This surprised me.

2Way has 7 D1 commits, 3 4stars including Princeton, Yale, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Providence, Villanova and Air Force.

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Re: NLF Rankings VS Inside Lacrosse
Reality101 #381383 05/25/22 01:47 PM
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In a world of showcases, social media, rankings (nlf and otherwise) Schreiber has truly dropped the ball in terms of recruiting . Either his players are not good or he is not doing his job!! he has some very talented 2024's and none of them were ranked?? 2 way in all fairness is a club of almost 100% reclassed prep school kids. they have the brunswick school as a bit of an anchor and its going to be tough to compete with 2 way for that reason alone

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In a world of showcases, social media, rankings (nlf and otherwise) Schreiber has truly dropped the ball in terms of recruiting . Either his players are not good or he is not doing his job!! he has some very talented 2024's and none of them were ranked?? 2 way in all fairness is a club of almost 100% reclassed prep school kids. they have the brunswick school as a bit of an anchor and its going to be tough to compete with 2 way for that reason alone
How come nobody is mentioning PrimeTime? Probably the best of the entire bunch in the areas just north of NY/Long Island.

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Re: NLF Rankings VS Inside Lacrosse
Reality101 #381445 05/25/22 07:18 PM
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That’s the whole point - pt has 15 kids every year recruited. Express north. Maybe 1-2.

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In a world of showcases, social media, rankings (nlf and otherwise) Schreiber has truly dropped the ball in terms of recruiting . Either his players are not good or he is not doing his job!! he has some very talented 2024's and none of them were ranked?? 2 way in all fairness is a club of almost 100% reclassed prep school kids. they have the brunswick school as a bit of an anchor and its going to be tough to compete with 2 way for that reason alone
How come nobody is mentioning PrimeTime? Probably the best of the entire bunch in the areas just north of NY/Long Island.

That was my point before. Predator, PT, 2Way, eclipse all have 1 team at the High School level and do pretty well with recruiting. Express North does much less with recruiting especially when compared to the Long Island parent.

But the point about reclass is valid as it is comparing apples to oranges as 2way is reclass central express north doesn’t have much in the way of reclass. But given that reclass is the new norm and comparing everyone on the same playing field, I would maybe rank the programs by strength (record+recruiting) in maybe this order:
-Eclipse
-2way
-PT
-preds
-Express North
-CT Wolves
-team 91 TriState

in the Fairfield / WestChester area. Does anyone have the records for 2021-2025 as well as the commits?

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Re: NLF Rankings VS Inside Lacrosse
Reality101 #381522 05/26/22 10:01 AM
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last year - express North 2024 went undefeated in the NLF fall tourney and had a very very strong fall- beating laxachusets, PrimeTime and LB Thunder- so while Schreiber is falling down on the recruiting, its not for a lack of talent

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Anonymous #381545 05/26/22 11:03 AM
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last year - express North 2024 went undefeated in the NLF fall tourney and had a very very strong fall- beating laxachusets, PrimeTime and LB Thunder- so while Schreiber is falling down on the recruiting, its not for a lack of talent

I believe Schreiber and Brameier are coaching both 24 teams. Curious to see how they do for recruiting. Looks like only a handful of commits for the 23 class

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why do people pay to play for express north if they arent helping with recruiting?
The smart ones who can play elsewhere leave

The same with LI EXPRESS equal playing team with a sideline of 30+..

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