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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
Anonymous #381285 05/24/22 06:34 PM
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Congrats Ryan and the 2025 Crabs.

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One thing that all of the holdback parents seem to be forgetting, is that success in eighth through 11th grade against younger kids does not translate to success in college against older kids. Yes they may draw more attention now and get more confidence, but the kids who are actually struggling to play against the older kids who you keep mocking and ridiculing or not understanding that this is how the game is played, are the ones who will actually excel in college because they have always been playing against your kid who was bigger older stronger faster and maybe a level up. If your kid is peeking in 8th grade or even in high school then you're probably failing as a parent. If they are having productive struggle now so that they can thrive later then they might not have a middle school trophy to displace when they're putting their achievements on the shelf.

You are kidding right? Go check the Terps roster. It is filled with 5 and 6 (redshirt + 4 years + 1 gift from NCAA) year players. Then go check all the rosters of the top 20 schools in lacrosse. There are a few exception in the Ivy but the older ages are the norm. BTW - the leading player of the year candidate is a 6 year player. And wait until you see what numbers Conor Schellenberger drops in his 5th and 6th years. The "holdbacks never succeed" thing is old and tired and wrong. Check every single sport and let us know when athletes have their best years.

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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
Anonymous #381286 05/24/22 06:39 PM
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If your kid is an on age 2026 player, congratulations to him and to you for having him play up against older kids in the 2026 division. It’s great that he’s able to play up and compete. He will be better off in high school. So can we stop the never ending holdback discussions and just tell yourself and your son that he’s playing up one age level and be proud of it? Yes, my son is on age 14 year old 8th grader. No, not a crabs parent.


The holdback discussion will never end. The posts will help end the cheating of on age kids.

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Anonymous #381310 05/24/22 10:03 PM
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Our crabs starting lineup is all prefirst and holdbacks. It just the way the lacrosse world works. If you don't like it, have your kid play a different sport.

Enjoy that fake trophy, because you know it is when you really digest the facts. King Crab never coaches an 8th grade team unless all the cards are in his favor. It makes up for his coaching short comings.

The question is could the Crabs on age kids win the championship? Simple question 1.) Yes or 2.) No

They barely beat Madlax the well before the playoffs minus their imports and one player. The answer is an easy no

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Keep telling yourself that your son who couldn't compete against kids his own age and had to compete against the kids a year younger is all of a sudden going to miraculously thrive when he has to compete against children who are older than him. But at least you get a cool window sticker for your minivan[/quote]

Ma’am my son is on age and plays in the elite division. My point is if your son is struggling now to compete it isn’t going to get easier in HS; especially the MIAA where 50% of rosters are holdbacks. The kids dominating now will more than likely being dominating during their HS years. Facts

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Anonymous #381313 05/24/22 10:36 PM
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Congrats Ryan and the 2025 Crabs.

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One thing that all of the holdback parents seem to be forgetting, is that success in eighth through 11th grade against younger kids does not translate to success in college against older kids. Yes they may draw more attention now and get more confidence, but the kids who are actually struggling to play against the older kids who you keep mocking and ridiculing or not understanding that this is how the game is played, are the ones who will actually excel in college because they have always been playing against your kid who was bigger older stronger faster and maybe a level up. If your kid is peeking in 8th grade or even in high school then you're probably failing as a parent. If they are having productive struggle now so that they can thrive later then they might not have a middle school trophy to displace when they're putting their achievements on the shelf.

Keep telling yourself that. I’ve seen this too many times; if you kid is struggling in 8th grade to keep up before the HS years hit there is a more than likely chance he will continue to struggle at the next level. Sure there are exceptions but that is rare and you’re about to find out.


Keep telling yourself that your son who couldn't compete against kids his own age and had to compete against the kids a year younger is all of a sudden going to miraculously thrive when he has to compete against children who are older than him. But at least you get a cool window sticker for your minivan

Keep telling yourself to keep telling yourself.

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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
Anonymous #381319 05/25/22 06:07 AM
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If your kid is an on age 2026 player, congratulations to him and to you for having him play up against older kids in the 2026 division. It’s great that he’s able to play up and compete. He will be better off in high school. So can we stop the never ending holdback discussions and just tell yourself and your son that he’s playing up one age level and be proud of it? Yes, my son is on age 14 year old 8th grader. No, not a crabs parent.

Congratulate on age players for playing up even though it’s where they should be. That is everything that’s wrong with the sport of lacrosse wrapped up in one sentence.

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TheBackOfTheCage #381324 05/25/22 07:59 AM
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How many of you angry post 9/1 parents have ever, just once, spoken to your club directors, coaches, officials at HoCo or tournament operators and asked to change the system ? Ever?

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Anonymous #381328 05/25/22 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Congrats Ryan and the 2025 Crabs.

Not nice rage

One thing that all of the holdback parents seem to be forgetting, is that success in eighth through 11th grade against younger kids does not translate to success in college against older kids. Yes they may draw more attention now and get more confidence, but the kids who are actually struggling to play against the older kids who you keep mocking and ridiculing or not understanding that this is how the game is played, are the ones who will actually excel in college because they have always been playing against your kid who was bigger older stronger faster and maybe a level up. If your kid is peeking in 8th grade or even in high school then you're probably failing as a parent. If they are having productive struggle now so that they can thrive later then they might not have a middle school trophy to displace when they're putting their achievements on the shelf.

You are kidding right? Go check the Terps roster. It is filled with 5 and 6 (redshirt + 4 years + 1 gift from NCAA) year players. Then go check all the rosters of the top 20 schools in lacrosse. There are a few exception in the Ivy but the older ages are the norm. BTW - the leading player of the year candidate is a 6 year player. And wait until you see what numbers Conor Schellenberger drops in his 5th and 6th years. The "holdbacks never succeed" thing is old and tired and wrong. Check every single sport and let us know when athletes have their best years.

Read the thread you are responding to.... The author is not talking about college. If the player is still playing at that point that is a another set of circumstances that varies from D1 to D3. This applies to the serious issue of holdbacks affecting the late middle school and high school years.

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How many of you angry post 9/1 parents have ever, just once, spoken to your club directors, coaches, officials at HoCo or tournament operators and asked to change the system ? Ever?

Absolutely!

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How many of you angry post 9/1 parents have ever, just once, spoken to your club directors, coaches, officials at HoCo or tournament operators and asked to change the system ? Ever?

How many of you holdback parents feel for the kids you cheat out of playtime, scholarships, spots on a team and recruitment?

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How many of you angry post 9/1 parents have ever, just once, spoken to your club directors, coaches, officials at HoCo or tournament operators and asked to change the system ? Ever?

How many of you holdback parents feel for the kids you cheat out of playtime, scholarships, spots on a team and recruitment?

First let me start by saying my kid is on age and I completely understand both sides of this argument but we all have to understand this is not going away. The holdback mentality is being propagated by HS and College coaches; I have been approached on several occasions to do something similar with my son. Our answer was simply no; I don't believe in it, but I also understand why some parent make the decision to hold their son/daughter back. It gives them an edge with the hopes of getting into college with a little financial help. It is what it is ans they are playing the 'game', so lets move on and encourage our kids to keep working hard. In the end they will be better for it both on and off the field.

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TheBackOfTheCage #381362 05/25/22 11:40 AM
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how many of the Crabs 2026 are holdbacks? the over under is 80%

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Anonymous #381373 05/25/22 12:24 PM
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How many of you angry post 9/1 parents have ever, just once, spoken to your club directors, coaches, officials at HoCo or tournament operators and asked to change the system ? Ever?

How many of you holdback parents feel for the kids you cheat out of playtime, scholarships, spots on a team and recruitment?

First let me start by saying my kid is on age and I completely understand both sides of this argument but we all have to understand this is not going away. The holdback mentality is being propagated by HS and College coaches; I have been approached on several occasions to do something similar with my son. Our answer was simply no; I don't believe in it, but I also understand why some parent make the decision to hold their son/daughter back. It gives them an edge with the hopes of getting into college with a little financial help. It is what it is ans they are playing the 'game', so lets move on and encourage our kids to keep working hard. In the end they will be better for it both on and off the field.


I will never drop cheating on age kids. My son is a starting summer bday in elite. He is 13. This is wrong for the kids that don’t have his ability.

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Anonymous #381374 05/25/22 12:25 PM
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The holdback phenomenon, and in particular the 2026 Crabs, are certainly annoying, but most people just accept it as a fact of lacrosse life and move on, sort of like the teenagers who run the clock and scoreboard at HoCo games being terrible at their jobs. I wonder which team's parents have been lighting up BOTC the past few days beating this dead horse nonstop. My theory is the Hawks - they annointed themselves champions for life in 5th grade, and are struggling with their new status as a run of the mill team. Am I right or wrong?

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Anonymous #381382 05/25/22 01:44 PM
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The holdback phenomenon, and in particular the 2026 Crabs, are certainly annoying, but most people just accept it as a fact of lacrosse life and move on, sort of like the teenagers who run the clock and scoreboard at HoCo games being terrible at their jobs. I wonder which team's parents have been lighting up BOTC the past few days beating this dead horse nonstop. My theory is the Hawks - they annointed themselves champions for life in 5th grade, and are struggling with their new status as a run of the mill team. Am I right or wrong?

Right about everything except Hawks parents. There are many many more parents in Baltimore and DC who pop on here and troll. The Crabs exploiting every possible loophole (ancient holdbacks, reclass, fly-Ins, raiding other teams instead of developing talent and so on) made a lot of enemies of families on Looneys, 91, Madlax, DCE etc. Not to mention Long Island parents who take a special pleasure in jumping on an anonymous forum to complain. I guess the crabs are basking in the glory of their “8th grade” championship or at the dealership getting a new set of wheels in time for the holiday for their 2026 prodigy who brought home the hardware.

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