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Re: 2021-2022 Women's DI-III College Lacrosse Season
Anonymous #380918 05/23/22 11:57 AM
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Wow, it appears that he struck a nerve. While I would somewhat agree with you about shooting for corners if we were discussing Men's Lacrosse where guys are ripping it from 12 - 15 yards and beyond but in the women's game the guy is spot on. Good Attackers push .500 or better shooting percentage and they put close to .800 of their shots on goal maybe .775 or better. Selfish players absolutely hurt their team in more ways than one. Do you really believe that good coaches allow selfish play?

Yes struck a nerve , when people post gibberish like your post it’s bothersome .Good coaches encourage players to be selfish all the time . Do you not think when Skane is playing Amonte does not encourage her to keep the ball and go the goal even when a teammate may be open , or do you not believe Levy has encouraged Ortega to be more selfish as she tends to not be that type of player but you want the ball in her stick more often than not .Spallina was telling Massera to keep shooting against UNC even thou she was 2 for 11 and taking some low percentage shots because she is their best player .
Shots on goal is a silly stat , any player can throw the ball into the goalies stick .

Let me help you out.

Definition of "Selfish" - : concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others.

Your lack of understanding of the game is rivaled by your limited understanding of the meaning of words.

Doing what the coach wants is not selfish. Playing within a teams offensive set, scheme or specific play is not being selfish. Making the right play (including going to the goal and shooting) in settled situations, unsettled situations or transition is not selfish when the situation dictates it.

As for your obsession with "Shot's on Goal" being a silly stat it would suggest that you do not understand the simple fact that you can not score if the shot is not on goal. Your ignorance implies that you believe coaches would rather have players missing the cage with their shots. The reality is that good Attackers do what their coaches want, play as part of a team, help their teammates and make the players around them better all while taking high percentage quality shots that are on goal.

Career Shooting Percentage and Shots on Goal Percentage....

****Shooting % --- SOG %

North - .558 - .803

Ortega - .586 - .786

Cordingley - .481 - .791

Scane - .542 - .774

Tyrrell - .564 - .807

Hawryschuk - .499 - .782

Sears - .511 - .790

Rosenzwieg - .487 - .737

Masera - .536 - .791

Selfish players will not have numbers anywhere near the numbers that the above players have. Most likely they will put below .650% of their shots on goal and they will shoot below .400%. The really selfish ones will be below .375%.

Yes, in the end, selfish players always hurt their team. They get in the way of their teammates, they shoot when the should not, they hold the ball too long, they turn the ball over too often, they do not occupy their defender while others are dodging, they do not make the "one more" pass when they should, they hinder their teammates, they take foolish shots etc... they try to go to goal almost every time they get the ball, they have no situational awareness and a limited lacrosse IQ. The reason the selfish players numbers are low is because they take shots that should never be taken given the situation on the field at the time. Will they score some goals? Yes, but their selfish play will come back to hurt their team when it matters most in close and in meaningful games vs quality opponents i.e. Playoffs etc... Watch as they take an ill-advised shot and the goalie makes an easy save and the ball goes the other way for a goal. Watch as they run to the goal and shoot when their team is down a player instead of killing the penalty, watch as they try to force it when the right thing to do is move the ball.... The list goes on and on and it's ugly to watch, it's bad lacrosse and it does in fact hurt the team. No, good coaches do not encourage or allow selfish play.

Complete and long winded nonsense. I love your made up nonsense stats.

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Re: 2021-2022 Women's DI-III College Lacrosse Season
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Brilliant idea by the BS parents . Come on here trying to compare their little superstar to one of the best players if not the best in the game and you fools bought in . BS is not even the second best player on her team and opposing coaches are well aware .if you think BS is even close to the best players in the game at this point you have not been watching . I guarantee you that on opposing teams game planning she is not one of the top 2 concerns when playing BC , it’s stop CZn and JM then possibly her . Good move even trying to get her in the conversation but I am not buying it

Feels like some of the BC parents like to eat their own and this is the Garden City vs. Westhampton version with the Westhampton vs. Charlotte North version already ongoing. Never recall any of this when the big three at BC were Apuzzo, Kent and Arsenault.



Don’t know what’s going on here but BS is a Sophomore. She’s already a stud. I can only imagine how she is going to be her last two years. Makes everyone better as well. Is definitely a star.

Lots of stars, mom. You need to stop. No better than about 10-20 others at least. Be happy she’s playing and healthy. Not even close to being the best player, and it won’t get easier from here!

Hope you weren’t watching today when BS dominated. I know it hurts.

Now you really must be upset that she made 1st team All American. As a SOPHMORE!!!!!

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The game of women's lacrosse has a lot of subjective rules for the refs to follow. The combination of the faster athletes, coaches bending the rules as much as possible and crazy parents make me believe the quality of officials will decline going forward. There is a huge need to attract young refs that understand the modern game, but it's a hard job. This may be the biggest issue facing the great game of women's lacrosse. Calling a the women's game is mostly based on enforcing safety. IMHO the games are not called correctly today with all the charges and dangerous shots being ignored. It's only getting worse and the coaching may lean closer to Spanilla's style going forward because it's too easy to bend the rules. Girls are flocking to the sport, but the rules need to be clarified or injuries will become a major issue.
The men's game is far more violent and faster, yet much easier to officiate. Just no head shots, blind checks or moving picks; I'm joking, but get those correct and you can basically ref a men's game.

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"Spanilla's" Lmao, sorry about the the spelling for Joe Spallina. Spanilla sounds like a type of cookie or italian dinner.

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Brilliant idea by the BS parents . Come on here trying to compare their little superstar to one of the best players if not the best in the game and you fools bought in . BS is not even the second best player on her team and opposing coaches are well aware .if you think BS is even close to the best players in the game at this point you have not been watching . I guarantee you that on opposing teams game planning she is not one of the top 2 concerns when playing BC , it’s stop CZn and JM then possibly her . Good move even trying to get her in the conversation but I am not buying it

Feels like some of the BC parents like to eat their own and this is the Garden City vs. Westhampton version with the Westhampton vs. Charlotte North version already ongoing. Never recall any of this when the big three at BC were Apuzzo, Kent and Arsenault.



Don’t know what’s going on here but BS is a Sophomore. She’s already a stud. I can only imagine how she is going to be her last two years. Makes everyone better as well. Is definitely a star.

Lots of stars, mom. You need to stop. No better than about 10-20 others at least. Be happy she’s playing and healthy. Not even close to being the best player, and it won’t get easier from here!

Hope you weren’t watching today when BS dominated. I know it hurts.

Now you really must be upset that she made 1st team All American. As a SOPHMORE!!!!!

You do realize that IL AA is not the real All American. The is only true AA honor that you get the official certificate for it’s called ISILA. Anything else is nice but you’re comparing apples and oranges

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Wow, it appears that he struck a nerve. While I would somewhat agree with you about shooting for corners if we were discussing Men's Lacrosse where guys are ripping it from 12 - 15 yards and beyond but in the women's game the guy is spot on. Good Attackers push .500 or better shooting percentage and they put close to .800 of their shots on goal maybe .775 or better. Selfish players absolutely hurt their team in more ways than one. Do you really believe that good coaches allow selfish play?

Yes struck a nerve , when people post gibberish like your post it’s bothersome .Good coaches encourage players to be selfish all the time . Do you not think when Skane is playing Amonte does not encourage her to keep the ball and go the goal even when a teammate may be open , or do you not believe Levy has encouraged Ortega to be more selfish as she tends to not be that type of player but you want the ball in her stick more often than not .Spallina was telling Massera to keep shooting against UNC even thou she was 2 for 11 and taking some low percentage shots because she is their best player .
Shots on goal is a silly stat , any player can throw the ball into the goalies stick .

Let me help you out.

Definition of "Selfish" - : concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others.

Your lack of understanding of the game is rivaled by your limited understanding of the meaning of words.

Doing what the coach wants is not selfish. Playing within a teams offensive set, scheme or specific play is not being selfish. Making the right play (including going to the goal and shooting) in settled situations, unsettled situations or transition is not selfish when the situation dictates it.

As for your obsession with "Shot's on Goal" being a silly stat it would suggest that you do not understand the simple fact that you can not score if the shot is not on goal. Your ignorance implies that you believe coaches would rather have players missing the cage with their shots. The reality is that good Attackers do what their coaches want, play as part of a team, help their teammates and make the players around them better all while taking high percentage quality shots that are on goal.

Career Shooting Percentage and Shots on Goal Percentage....

****Shooting % --- SOG %

North - .558 - .803

Ortega - .586 - .786

Cordingley - .481 - .791

Scane - .542 - .774

Tyrrell - .564 - .807

Hawryschuk - .499 - .782

Sears - .511 - .790

Rosenzwieg - .487 - .737

Masera - .536 - .791

Selfish players will not have numbers anywhere near the numbers that the above players have. Most likely they will put below .650% of their shots on goal and they will shoot below .400%. The really selfish ones will be below .375%.

Yes, in the end, selfish players always hurt their team. They get in the way of their teammates, they shoot when the should not, they hold the ball too long, they turn the ball over too often, they do not occupy their defender while others are dodging, they do not make the "one more" pass when they should, they hinder their teammates, they take foolish shots etc... they try to go to goal almost every time they get the ball, they have no situational awareness and a limited lacrosse IQ. The reason the selfish players numbers are low is because they take shots that should never be taken given the situation on the field at the time. Will they score some goals? Yes, but their selfish play will come back to hurt their team when it matters most in close and in meaningful games vs quality opponents i.e. Playoffs etc... Watch as they take an ill-advised shot and the goalie makes an easy save and the ball goes the other way for a goal. Watch as they run to the goal and shoot when their team is down a player instead of killing the penalty, watch as they try to force it when the right thing to do is move the ball.... The list goes on and on and it's ugly to watch, it's bad lacrosse and it does in fact hurt the team. No, good coaches do not encourage or allow selfish play.

Complete and long winded nonsense. I love your made up nonsense stats.

Just checked the career stats for Ortega, Tyrrell, Hawryschuk, Sears and Mesera and the numbers posted above are accurate, no reason to think that the others aren't accurate as well.

assessment above is a bit long winded but it is also a very accurate assessment of selfish players AKA Ball Hogs.

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Wow, it appears that he struck a nerve. While I would somewhat agree with you about shooting for corners if we were discussing Men's Lacrosse where guys are ripping it from 12 - 15 yards and beyond but in the women's game the guy is spot on. Good Attackers push .500 or better shooting percentage and they put close to .800 of their shots on goal maybe .775 or better. Selfish players absolutely hurt their team in more ways than one. Do you really believe that good coaches allow selfish play?

Yes struck a nerve , when people post gibberish like your post it’s bothersome .Good coaches encourage players to be selfish all the time . Do you not think when Skane is playing Amonte does not encourage her to keep the ball and go the goal even when a teammate may be open , or do you not believe Levy has encouraged Ortega to be more selfish as she tends to not be that type of player but you want the ball in her stick more often than not .Spallina was telling Massera to keep shooting against UNC even thou she was 2 for 11 and taking some low percentage shots because she is their best player .
Shots on goal is a silly stat , any player can throw the ball into the goalies stick .

Let me help you out.

Definition of "Selfish" - : concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others.

Your lack of understanding of the game is rivaled by your limited understanding of the meaning of words.

Doing what the coach wants is not selfish. Playing within a teams offensive set, scheme or specific play is not being selfish. Making the right play (including going to the goal and shooting) in settled situations, unsettled situations or transition is not selfish when the situation dictates it.

As for your obsession with "Shot's on Goal" being a silly stat it would suggest that you do not understand the simple fact that you can not score if the shot is not on goal. Your ignorance implies that you believe coaches would rather have players missing the cage with their shots. The reality is that good Attackers do what their coaches want, play as part of a team, help their teammates and make the players around them better all while taking high percentage quality shots that are on goal.

Career Shooting Percentage and Shots on Goal Percentage....

****Shooting % --- SOG %

North - .558 - .803

Ortega - .586 - .786

Cordingley - .481 - .791

Scane - .542 - .774

Tyrrell - .564 - .807

Hawryschuk - .499 - .782

Sears - .511 - .790

Rosenzwieg - .487 - .737

Masera - .536 - .791

Selfish players will not have numbers anywhere near the numbers that the above players have. Most likely they will put below .650% of their shots on goal and they will shoot below .400%. The really selfish ones will be below .375%.

Yes, in the end, selfish players always hurt their team. They get in the way of their teammates, they shoot when the should not, they hold the ball too long, they turn the ball over too often, they do not occupy their defender while others are dodging, they do not make the "one more" pass when they should, they hinder their teammates, they take foolish shots etc... they try to go to goal almost every time they get the ball, they have no situational awareness and a limited lacrosse IQ. The reason the selfish players numbers are low is because they take shots that should never be taken given the situation on the field at the time. Will they score some goals? Yes, but their selfish play will come back to hurt their team when it matters most in close and in meaningful games vs quality opponents i.e. Playoffs etc... Watch as they take an ill-advised shot and the goalie makes an easy save and the ball goes the other way for a goal. Watch as they run to the goal and shoot when their team is down a player instead of killing the penalty, watch as they try to force it when the right thing to do is move the ball.... The list goes on and on and it's ugly to watch, it's bad lacrosse and it does in fact hurt the team. No, good coaches do not encourage or allow selfish play.

Complete and long winded nonsense. I love your made up nonsense stats.

"Definition of "Selfish" - : concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others."

With respect to this discussion, "others" would be The Team.

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[quote=Anonymous]Brilliant idea by the BS parents . Come on here trying to compare their little superstar to one of the best players if not the best in the game and you fools bought in . BS is not even the second best player on her team and opposing coaches are well aware .if you think BS is even close to the best players in the game at this point you have not been watching . I guarantee you that on opposing teams game planning she is not one of the top 2 concerns when playing BC , it’s stop CZn and JM then possibly her . Good move even trying to get her in the conversation but I am not buying it

Feels like some of the BC parents like to eat their own and this is the Garden City vs. Westhampton version with the Westhampton vs. Charlotte North version already ongoing. Never recall any of this when the big three at BC were Apuzzo, Kent and Arsenault.


Lots of stars, mom. You need to stop. No better than about 10-20 others at least. Be happy she’s playing and healthy. Not even close to being the best player, and it won’t get easier from here!

Hope you weren’t watching today when BS dominated. I know it hurts.

Now you really must be upset that she made 1st team All American. As a SOPHMORE!!!!!

You do realize that IL AA is not the real All American. The is only true AA honor that you get the official certificate for it’s called ISILA. Anything else is nice but you’re comparing apples and oranges

LMAO. Thanks. Edit the post to read this:
Now you must really be upset that she made 1st team All American for IL. And as a Sophomore. Not the All American you get a certificate for. Some other one that every college is throwing out on their Instagram today.

Thanks again. BTW, didn’t compare them. You did.

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I would say IL women definitely picked some of there favorites to this list. Clearly was not thought through based on Strength of schedules as some kids at top that were shown in tourney competition matters.

However knowing all these girls are very good, they all would trade in any of these awards to say your a Natty Champ.

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I would rather have shots on goal and shooting percentage closer together. A higher shots on goal means those shots were saved and basically a turnover. If a team is coached correctly a missed shot, not on goal, will remain offensive teams possession with another chance for a scoring opportunity. Miss small keep the ball.

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I would rather have shots on goal and shooting percentage closer together. A higher shots on goal means those shots were saved and basically a turnover. If a team is coached correctly a missed shot, not on goal, will remain offensive teams possession with another chance for a scoring opportunity. Miss small keep the ball.

Of course we would all like to see Shooting Percentage and Shots on Goal Percentage closer together.... However, the Stats presented represent the best attackers in the game so I'm not sure what attackers you would choose over them. The ball has to be put on goal in order to score so if you want to miss the cage good luck with that. Good attackers score on 50% or more of their shots (or very close to 50%) you simply are not going to find volume shooters doing better than that.

This whole discussion started when someone pointed out that CN was not a Ball Hog (which she is not). As a few of the earlier post pointed out, good attackers take high quality, high percentage shots and they put their shots on goal upwards of 80% of the time. I don't think a lot of coaches out there would try to change the game of any of the players listed.

Selfish players / ball hogs simply do not have stats that are in line with good attackers because they try to force it, take shots that should not be taken, shoot into the goalies stick (turnover that doesn't show up in the stats) etc... Their style of play is ugly and hard to watch, it hurts the team in a multitude of ways and their low shooting percentage and low shots on goal percentage are the result of selfish play. Oh yeah, good coaches do not tolerate selfish players.

On the boys / men's side you will see that good attackmen have a lower Shots on Goal Percentage but they will also have a lower Shooting Percentage, I bet the differential is similar.

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I would rather have shots on goal and shooting percentage closer together. A higher shots on goal means those shots were saved and basically a turnover. If a team is coached correctly a missed shot, not on goal, will remain offensive teams possession with another chance for a scoring opportunity. Miss small keep the ball.

Of course we would all like to see Shooting Percentage and Shots on Goal Percentage closer together.... However, the Stats presented represent the best attackers in the game so I'm not sure what attackers you would choose over them. The ball has to be put on goal in order to score so if you want to miss the cage good luck with that. Good attackers score on 50% or more of their shots (or very close to 50%) you simply are not going to find volume shooters doing better than that.

This whole discussion started when someone pointed out that CN was not a Ball Hog (which she is not). As a few of the earlier post pointed out, good attackers take high quality, high percentage shots and they put their shots on goal upwards of 80% of the time. I don't think a lot of coaches out there would try to change the game of any of the players listed.

Selfish players / ball hogs simply do not have stats that are in line with good attackers because they try to force it, take shots that should not be taken, shoot into the goalies stick (turnover that doesn't show up in the stats) etc... Their style of play is ugly and hard to watch, it hurts the team in a multitude of ways and their low shooting percentage and low shots on goal percentage are the result of selfish play. Oh yeah, good coaches do not tolerate selfish players.

On the boys / men's side you will see that good attackmen have a lower Shots on Goal Percentage but they will also have a lower Shooting Percentage, I bet the differential is similar.

Wow you must be brutally long winded in person. If you don't think several of the above players are not selfish on the field then you simply do not know them. They all obviously want to win but many want the awards etc that go with scoring goals, its actually something that drives them. Part of the reason their shooting percentage is so high is they put up huge numbers against overmatched teams. CN shooting percentage probably way below your nonsensical " The really selfish ones will be below .375%." in her career against Morenno. I guess she is only selfish against the good goalies.

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I would rather have shots on goal and shooting percentage closer together. A higher shots on goal means those shots were saved and basically a turnover. If a team is coached correctly a missed shot, not on goal, will remain offensive teams possession with another chance for a scoring opportunity. Miss small keep the ball.

Of course we would all like to see Shooting Percentage and Shots on Goal Percentage closer together.... However, the Stats presented represent the best attackers in the game so I'm not sure what attackers you would choose over them. The ball has to be put on goal in order to score so if you want to miss the cage good luck with that. Good attackers score on 50% or more of their shots (or very close to 50%) you simply are not going to find volume shooters doing better than that.

This whole discussion started when someone pointed out that CN was not a Ball Hog (which she is not). As a few of the earlier post pointed out, good attackers take high quality, high percentage shots and they put their shots on goal upwards of 80% of the time. I don't think a lot of coaches out there would try to change the game of any of the players listed.

Selfish players / ball hogs simply do not have stats that are in line with good attackers because they try to force it, take shots that should not be taken, shoot into the goalies stick (turnover that doesn't show up in the stats) etc... Their style of play is ugly and hard to watch, it hurts the team in a multitude of ways and their low shooting percentage and low shots on goal percentage are the result of selfish play. Oh yeah, good coaches do not tolerate selfish players.

On the boys / men's side you will see that good attackmen have a lower Shots on Goal Percentage but they will also have a lower Shooting Percentage, I bet the differential is similar.

Wow you must be brutally long winded in person. If you don't think several of the above players are not selfish on the field then you simply do not know them. They all obviously want to win but many want the awards etc that go with scoring goals, its actually something that drives them. Part of the reason their shooting percentage is so high is they put up huge numbers against overmatched teams. CN shooting percentage probably way below your nonsensical " The really selfish ones will be below .375%." in her career against Morenno. I guess she is only selfish against the good goalies.

I don't think you know how to use "average" in statistics... The bottom line is if CN is such a selfish player hurting her team, her coach wouldn't play her day in and day out. You think you know better about coaching that the coach? Or do you just detest her style?

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I would rather have shots on goal and shooting percentage closer together. A higher shots on goal means those shots were saved and basically a turnover. If a team is coached correctly a missed shot, not on goal, will remain offensive teams possession with another chance for a scoring opportunity. Miss small keep the ball.

Of course we would all like to see Shooting Percentage and Shots on Goal Percentage closer together.... However, the Stats presented represent the best attackers in the game so I'm not sure what attackers you would choose over them. The ball has to be put on goal in order to score so if you want to miss the cage good luck with that. Good attackers score on 50% or more of their shots (or very close to 50%) you simply are not going to find volume shooters doing better than that.

This whole discussion started when someone pointed out that CN was not a Ball Hog (which she is not). As a few of the earlier post pointed out, good attackers take high quality, high percentage shots and they put their shots on goal upwards of 80% of the time. I don't think a lot of coaches out there would try to change the game of any of the players listed.

Selfish players / ball hogs simply do not have stats that are in line with good attackers because they try to force it, take shots that should not be taken, shoot into the goalies stick (turnover that doesn't show up in the stats) etc... Their style of play is ugly and hard to watch, it hurts the team in a multitude of ways and their low shooting percentage and low shots on goal percentage are the result of selfish play. Oh yeah, good coaches do not tolerate selfish players.

On the boys / men's side you will see that good attackmen have a lower Shots on Goal Percentage but they will also have a lower Shooting Percentage, I bet the differential is similar.

Wow you must be brutally long winded in person. If you don't think several of the above players are not selfish on the field then you simply do not know them. They all obviously want to win but many want the awards etc that go with scoring goals, its actually something that drives them. Part of the reason their shooting percentage is so high is they put up huge numbers against overmatched teams. CN shooting percentage probably way below your nonsensical " The really selfish ones will be below .375%." in her career against Morenno. I guess she is only selfish against the good goalies.

I don't think you know how to use "average" in statistics... The bottom line is if CN is such a selfish player hurting her team, her coach wouldn't play her day in and day out. You think you know better about coaching that the coach? Or do you just detest her style?

Obviously he doesn't know what selfish play looks like either. Love the way he moves the goal post, classic. Totally agree that selfish players hurt their teams in a lot of ways.

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Re: 2021-2022 Women's DI-III College Lacrosse Season
Anonymous #381416 05/25/22 03:49 PM
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If you can't understand this, it might be time to stop commenting on shooting statistics. Obviously, you want a player to have the highest "shot percentage" as possible. But contrary to what some people on here seem to think, you want that coupled with the lowest possible "shot on goal" percentage. The vast majority of shots not on goal, go riffling out of bounds and every single good team will have that shot backed up with a defender, meaning they will get possession back. It is a harmless take. Shots on goal that do not end up as a score, are saves by the goalie, often in the stick, or knocked down and pounced on, or best case scenario, it gets reflected out to field players as a 50/50 ball. Think about this... you take any player shooting percentage at 50%, would you rather see a player shoot 100 shots, 100% on goal for 50 goals? or a player shoot 100 shots, 50% on goal with 50 goals (meaning every shot on goal went in)? Please recognize it is the latter. The very best players have always shot for just inside the post or cross bar. If you can't squeak it in, better to have it go out of bounds.

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