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#38093 - 08/08/13 01:14 PM Boys 2019 Fall 2013/Summer 2014  
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BOTC is opening our Fall 2013 through Summer 2014 thread covering the Boys 2019 (7th Grade) age group.

In order to introduce this year's thread, we are categorizing this age group's tryouts by date.

8/25, Outlaws, 9:00am

9/7, Team Threshers, 11:00am
9/7, fl$, 2:00pm
9/7, Team 91, 3:00pm
9/7, Turf Island, 5:00pm
9/7, Revolution, 6:00pm

9/8, fl$, 2:00pm

9/14, Team Threshers, 9:00am
9/14, Team 91, 3:00pm
9/14, Outlaws, 3:30pm

9/15, Legacy, 9:00am

9/21, Legacy, 9:00am
9/21, True Blue, 3:00pm
9/21, Jesters, 8:30pm

9/22, True Blue, 6:00pm
9/22, Jesters, 8:30pm

9/29, Thunder, 9:00am
9/29, Recon, 6:30pm

10/5, Revolution, 3:00pm

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#38112 - 08/08/13 02:46 PM Re: Boys 2019 Fall 2013/Summer 2014 [Re: CageSage]  
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Replaying the Boys 2019 Fall 2012/Spring 2013 latest comments onto the new thread

I love all these posts that insult the parents of the kids on select teams. Other than directly insulting kids, it is one of the most devious cheap shots on here; impossible to counter because when you do the original poster replies "you see, you people are nutty" (or words to that effect). Its like trying to disprove the negative and lets face it, is usually perpetrated by a person whose child did not make one of these teams.
So let me add my two cents to the nutty parent issue:
we have been involved with 3 organizations: - 2 travel, 1 PAL. In only one of those organizations did all of the following occur:
- parents approaching, calling, texting and e-mailing the coach to tell him who should and should not be playing, and when
- parents yelling insults at children who were not their own from the sideline
- parents openly insulting other children, for example "this kid cant even catch, why is he in?"
- arguments between parents of the same team on the sideline
- parents who did not pay their way
- other general "brown nosing" to get in good graces with the program (I will leave it there)
- parents coaching from the sideline in direct conflict with what the coach is trying to achieve (e.g. Johnny, take it yourself, go to the cage")

Yes, that was in the PAL program if you havent already figured it out. Ours is considered one of the top programs on the island so if it happens in ours, it happens in yours too.

On a more positive note, we found the parents on both travel teams very pleasant and not "nutty" at all. As a matter of fact, parents from travel teams can leave all of the "town associated drama" and pre-conceived nonsense behind. No issues bleeding over from other sports, school, friends, etc. No resentment or jealousy towards other kids because they wont be competing against each other for a position at school. People actually rooted for other peoples' kids - and did it with sincerity!

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Replaying the conversation from the Boys 2019 Fall 2012/Spring 2013 thread

You are correct. I am sure one or more of these things happened with our travel teams, I just didn't see it. I can tell you for a fact though, that all of these things happened in our PAL organization, and on the same team, no less. I think the travel parents - bashing thing is a bit contrived and played out at this point. Furthermore, it smacks with jealousy and resentment, and like almost all generalizations, is utter nonsense. It has been my experience thus far that the travel team parents seemed more reasonable and less under-handed than those at PAL. I wont say what program it is, but I should correct my earlier characterization to say "we used to be" one of the top youth programs on the island.
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You aren't to far off base, but all of your points still happen in Travel.
It just exists more in PAL and much less on the AA's but still exists inbetween.


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I love all these posts that insult the parents of the kids on select teams. Other than directly insulting kids, it is one of the most devious cheap shots on here; impossible to counter because when you do the original poster replies "you see, you people are nutty" (or words to that effect). Its like trying to disprove the negative and lets face it, is usually perpetrated by a person whose child did not make one of these teams.
So let me add my two cents to the nutty parent issue:
we have been involved with 3 organizations: - 2 travel, 1 PAL. In only one of those organizations did all of the following occur:
- parents approaching, calling, texting and e-mailing the coach to tell him who should and should not be playing, and when
- parents yelling insults at children who were not their own from the sideline
- parents openly insulting other children, for example "this kid cant even catch, why is he in?"
- arguments between parents of the same team on the sideline
- parents who did not pay their way
- other general "brown nosing" to get in good graces with the program (I will leave it there)
- parents coaching from the sideline in direct conflict with what the coach is trying to achieve (e.g. Johnny, take it yourself, go to the cage")

Yes, that was in the PAL program if you havent already figured it out. Ours is considered one of the top programs on the island so if it happens in ours, it happens in yours too.

On a more positive note, we found the parents on both travel teams very pleasant and not "nutty" at all. As a matter of fact, parents from travel teams can leave all of the "town associated drama" and pre-conceived nonsense behind. No issues bleeding over from other sports, school, friends, etc. No resentment or jealousy towards other kids because they wont be competing against each other for a position at school. People actually rooted for other peoples' kids - and did it with sincerity!

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Please use this thread for the new seasonal year's discussion of Boys 2019 action.

#47772 - 11/19/13 10:39 AM Re: Boys 2019 Fall 2013/Summer 2014 [Re: CageSage]  
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Originally Posted by CageSage
Please use this thread for the new seasonal year's discussion of Boys 2019 action.
Relaunching this thread to get the latest discussion on the proper seasonal year.

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#47774 - 11/19/13 10:41 AM Re: Boys 2019 Fall 2013/Summer 2014 [Re: CageSage]  
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Replayed from Previous Seasonal Year Boys 2019 Thread

The Dukes final score was 6-3. I thought all 3 teams were EXCELLENT - It would be great to see travel teams play in the Spring County League against each other. We travel all over the east coast looking to play the best teams and we really don't have to look far at all. According to everything I've read, 91, Express and Dune Dogs are the best three 2019 teams on LI. There are other programs that are probably a notch or two below that I'm sure would love to participate in events like yesterday. All the directors should continue to set up little round robin days like that. The games were intense and every child benefitted from that.

#47776 - 11/19/13 10:43 AM Re: Boys 2019 Fall 2013/Summer 2014 [Re: CageSage]  
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Replayed from the Previous Season Year's Boys 2019 Thread

Okay a few teams have had a few games practices scrimmages under their belts and some have even played against the others. Presuming the below list is the list representing the LI AA/A teams for 2019 (alphabetically).
  • What's your take on the grade?
  • Are the Schedules posted for these teams so we will know who will potentially play whom?
  • Can we at least say we will all go to Lax fest. By then all of our boys should be hitting their stride.


2019 list As of Fall 2013

91 O
DD
Express wolves
fl$
Greys
Jesters
Legacy
Outlaws
Revolution
Team LI
True Blue

91 has now played a few of the teams, you may be the best gauge on the grade, what is your take on how 2019 will represent?

#47777 - 11/19/13 10:44 AM Re: Boys 2019 Fall 2013/Summer 2014 [Re: CageSage]  
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91 Orange has played 12 games this Fall including the Express, Outlaws, Dukes and Legacy (2x). Most of the other teams were decent, not great, but not exactly pushovers either. We did not always play great, but we managed to win them all. The most competitive were Express and Dukes but Legacy is very solid and will be a team to contend with next Spring. I dont think the results really should translate to being on the top of some meaningless list which is only written to stir the pot, but we learned where we need work, and we also learned that the competition gets better every year as you get older. BTW, i know this is like throwing a lit match on gasoline, but 91 Crush belongs at or near the top of any list that involves LI 2019 or 2020. I know that can be a bitter one to swallow but like it or not, they can beat most of the teams on that 2019 list on any given day - some easilly, even maybe the DD assuming cloning people becomes ethically acceptable!

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Replayed from the Previous Season Year Boys 2019 Thread

91 Orange has played 12 games this Fall including the Express, Outlaws, Dukes and Legacy (2x). Most of the other teams were decent, not great, but not exactly pushovers either. We did not always play great, but we managed to win them all. The most competitive were Express and Dukes but Legacy is very solid and will be a team to contend with next Spring. I dont think the results really should translate to being on the top of some meaningless list which is only written to stir the pot, but we learned where we need work, and we also learned that the competition gets better every year as you get older. BTW, i know this is like throwing a lit match on gasoline, but 91 Crush belongs at or near the top of any list that involves LI 2019 or 2020. I know that can be a bitter one to swallow but like it or not, they can beat most of the teams on that 2019 list on any given day - some easilly, even maybe the DD assuming cloning people becomes ethically acceptable!


Thanks for the response. This is what I was looking to see/read.

My son doesn't need to be the best player, he doesn't need to play on the best team. But I would like him to always play the best he can against the best available.


Go 2019, with friends on 6 or more of the teams listed, I wish you all well. Looking forward to June when the boys are really hitting their strides and the coaches worked out all those correctables.

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I haven't seen DD at Laxfest in years..maybe never.

He won't play without the crush kids I guess..

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Replayed from the Previous Season Year's Boys 2019 Thread

Okay a few teams have had a few games practices scrimmages under their belts and some have even played against the others. Presuming the below list is the list representing the LI AA/A teams for 2019 (alphabetically).
  • What's your take on the grade?
  • Are the Schedules posted for these teams so we will know who will potentially play whom?
  • Can we at least say we will all go to Lax fest. By then all of our boys should be hitting their stride.


2019 list As of Fall 2013

91 O
DD
Express wolves
fl$
Greys
Jesters
Legacy
Outlaws
Revolution
Team LI
True Blue

91 has now played a few of the teams, you may be the best gauge on the grade, what is your take on how 2019 will represent?

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My son said one of the all greys boys that played at NYIT on Sunday played with DD's on Saturday at Oyster Bay......is "all grey" a town team?


No, not a town team. I saw some Smithtown helmets, kings park, and I think Huntington.

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How have the All Greys been doing so far?

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They've had a lot of kids come and go they used to have kids from Gladiators and Kingspark . Solid B team
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How have the All Greys been doing so far?

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They've had a lot of kids come and go they used to have kids from Gladiators and Kingspark . Solid B team
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How have the All Greys been doing so far?


Don't they play in mostly A divisions? Thought they were A.

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All Greys only play in A tourneys for 2019. Could be a B, Could be an A depending on how you rate the other teams. Havent beaten the top 3, but split with true blue and outlaws black last year, beat white. tied team LI. the entire core came back and have improved at every position. Time will tell.

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