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Re: 2021-2022 Women's DI-III College Lacrosse Season
Anonymous #380332 05/19/22 06:01 PM
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Don’t care what anyone says. Belle Smith is a better player than Charlotte North.
After yesterdays game that did not age well.

CN is the best player in Women's lacrosse. Nobody draws more defensive attention and creates more opportunities for her teammates than CN.

You have not been watching this year then. Have not seen any team lately treating CN like she is as special a player as you seem to think. Either she is hurt or lost a step but has not been what she used to be.

For the last few weeks, I would agree with you. She has lost the wrap on her thigh and perhaps more healthy. Loyola definitely put their defensive focus on her today. She drew an immediately double all game and a few times in the second half what looked like a shutoff off ball but not a complete face guard. That clearly created space for her teammates, lots of open looks in the middle of the field. I like her additional role as a facilitator. Over the last 6 games, she has 10 assists, makes the team better, particularly if she is drawing a quick double. Lots of offense on that team. What has improved the last couple games is the goalie play, save % up and will make them a tougher out.

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Brilliant idea by the BS parents . Come on here trying to compare their little superstar to one of the best players if not the best in the game and you fools bought in . BS is not even the second best player on her team and opposing coaches are well aware .if you think BS is even close to the best players in the game at this point you have not been watching . I guarantee you that on opposing teams game planning she is not one of the top 2 concerns when playing BC , it’s stop CZn and JM then possibly her . Good move even trying to get her in the conversation but I am not buying it

Feels like some of the BC parents like to eat their own and this is the Garden City vs. Westhampton version with the Westhampton vs. Charlotte North version already ongoing. Never recall any of this when the big three at BC were Apuzzo, Kent and Arsenault.



Don’t know what’s going on here but BS is a Sophomore. She’s already a stud. I can only imagine how she is going to be her last two years. Makes everyone better as well. Is definitely a star.

Lots of stars, mom. You need to stop. No better than about 10-20 others at least. Be happy she’s playing and healthy. Not even close to being the best player, and it won’t get easier from here!

Hope you weren’t watching today when BS dominated. I know it hurts.

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Ok, so the quarters were mostly grossly mismatched teams blown out. Northwestern got some well deserved revenge and was not shy about it! Was impressed with the effort by StonyBrook. They gave everything they had, but got bad calls and were playing with girls with a lot of heart. Should be proud. Best game of the day!

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Kudos to Stoney Brook women for an impressive showing, but bad calls?? That team flops and dives all over the field and now with better tv/live streaming coverage of women's lacrosse the entire country can watch it first hand! Drawing charges is smart lacrosse and not done enough at the top programs and they must work on it, credit to them. The amount of additional flops and grabbing they do is terrible. The team that complains the most to the refs is usually the team that is committing the most fouls, Spallina is the perfect example. That team is a reflection of their top tier the coach that tries to get away with too much. Watch all the BS away from the ball and the poor me stuff is going to back fire on him in the future.

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Stonybrook defense played great. No face guards needed just a solid defense. You hear all about the great defenders on UNC and BC but they need to face guard. I guess the coaches aren’t as confident in their defenders abilities as they say they are.

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SOmeone on here just can't help but garbage on Charlotte North at every turn. Say what you want but she stays on her feet taking physical contact from multiple defenders consistently throughout games. She beats them with dodges and power. Unlike UNC offense which plays to the officials at every turn -have never seen such flopping from the UNC team in Sunday's game. Hard to watch and looks like they spend a lot of time in acting school.

Not sure I agree with your assessment of UNC but 100% agree with the North hater. I guess there could be more than one but I doubt it. I will chalk it up to jealousy. North is certainly one of the top players in the game and all but a few delusional parents know it.
No offense but there is no one saying CN is not a unique talent but there are many who believe a dangerous shot , a charge , can be called on most of her shots . There are many who dislike her style of play ie a ball hog who clearly is out to get her goals regardless if it’s the right way to play from a teammate or sportsmanship point of view . It’s hilarious that you CN sycophants want the refs to call charges and dangerous propelling .

Dangerous shots yes…. Not sure about the Ball Hog accusation…. Not everyone who goes to goal or takes a lot of shots is a Ball Hog… she is a great player.

Good players, offensive players primarily attackers who take a lot of shots will put 70% and above of their shots on goal (the really good ones will be close to 80% SOG) and they will score on 50% or more of their shots (the really good ones will be close to 60%). When you see players taking a lot of shots and their Shots on goal is below .700 and their overall shooting percentage is below .500 they are probably a "Ball Hog" because they are taking shots that should not be taken. Drop below .400 and they should most likely should be moving the ball instead of going to the goal. CN is way up there at .803 and .591 for her career.

Final Four is set.... It will all come down to Goalie Play and Team Defense. Northwestern had a great year but they will not make it to the finals.

Where are the know nothing Maryland haters?

As for CN haters, She is a great player, is she The Best? The best at what? BC could win without her goal scoring but they could not win without a very good goalie, very good defenders, very good "draw team" all three players (CN contributes there as well) and very good two way midfielders and very good coaching. Its a team game and scoring goals is only a part of it.

As far as being a "Ball Hog", CN is not a ball hog, not even close. Ball hogs are selfish and will always hurt their team, in most cases they will hurt their team in the most competitive and important game.

As of today, CN has a YTD shooting percentage of .529 and she has a Shots on Goal percentage of .742 (career at BC .558 & .803) she takes good quality high percentage shots and she operates as a cog in her coaches offensive scheme.

As one of the above posts points out, the "Ball Hogs" will not have numbers anywhere near CN. Ball Hogs will score some goals but their shooting percentage will be low. Show me a player taking a lot of shots with a below .700 Shots on Goal percentage for their career and a below .400 shooting percentage and I will show you a selfish player (Ball Hog) who will most certainly hurt their team. Selfish players do not make the players around them better, they do not help their teammates and they ultimately hurt their team. Good coaches do not allow selfish play.

I would love to see a Goalie, Defender or two way midfielder win the T but I do not believe it will happen this year. My guess is it will go to an Attacker on the team that wins The National Championship (all of them are excellent). It's just very difficult to quantify the value that other players bring, much easier to count goals.

Good Luck to all.

Go Terps!!!

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Stonybrook defense played great. No face guards needed just a solid defense. You hear all about the great defenders on UNC and BC but they need to face guard. I guess the coaches aren’t as confident in their defenders abilities as they say they are.
Apples and Oranges. Stony Brook plays a zone and Carolina plays man to man, you really cant compare the two. In general, coaches who choose to play man have a lot more confidence in their athletes and their ability. Stony Brooks team defense is very good but to try and diminish the Carolina D when they held SBU to 5 goals just make you sound foolish, Obviously the UNC D is excellent.

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SOmeone on here just can't help but garbage on Charlotte North at every turn. Say what you want but she stays on her feet taking physical contact from multiple defenders consistently throughout games. She beats them with dodges and power. Unlike UNC offense which plays to the officials at every turn -have never seen such flopping from the UNC team in Sunday's game. Hard to watch and looks like they spend a lot of time in acting school.

Not sure I agree with your assessment of UNC but 100% agree with the North hater. I guess there could be more than one but I doubt it. I will chalk it up to jealousy. North is certainly one of the top players in the game and all but a few delusional parents know it.
No offense but there is no one saying CN is not a unique talent but there are many who believe a dangerous shot , a charge , can be called on most of her shots . There are many who dislike her style of play ie a ball hog who clearly is out to get her goals regardless if it’s the right way to play from a teammate or sportsmanship point of view . It’s hilarious that you CN sycophants want the refs to call charges and dangerous propelling .

Dangerous shots yes…. Not sure about the Ball Hog accusation…. Not everyone who goes to goal or takes a lot of shots is a Ball Hog… she is a great player.

Good players, offensive players primarily attackers who take a lot of shots will put 70% and above of their shots on goal (the really good ones will be close to 80% SOG) and they will score on 50% or more of their shots (the really good ones will be close to 60%). When you see players taking a lot of shots and their Shots on goal is below .700 and their overall shooting percentage is below .500 they are probably a "Ball Hog" because they are taking shots that should not be taken. Drop below .400 and they should most likely should be moving the ball instead of going to the goal. CN is way up there at .803 and .591 for her career.

Final Four is set.... It will all come down to Goalie Play and Team Defense. Northwestern had a great year but they will not make it to the finals.

Where are the know nothing Maryland haters?

As for CN haters, She is a great player, is she The Best? The best at what? BC could win without her goal scoring but they could not win without a very good goalie, very good defenders, very good "draw team" all three players (CN contributes there as well) and very good two way midfielders and very good coaching. Its a team game and scoring goals is only a part of it.

As far as being a "Ball Hog", CN is not a ball hog, not even close. Ball hogs are selfish and will always hurt their team, in most cases they will hurt their team in the most competitive and important game.

As of today, CN has a YTD shooting percentage of .529 and she has a Shots on Goal percentage of .742 (career at BC .558 & .803) she takes good quality high percentage shots and she operates as a cog in her coaches offensive scheme.

As one of the above posts points out, the "Ball Hogs" will not have numbers anywhere near CN. Ball Hogs will score some goals but their shooting percentage will be low. Show me a player taking a lot of shots with a below .700 Shots on Goal percentage for their career and a below .400 shooting percentage and I will show you a selfish player (Ball Hog) who will most certainly hurt their team. Selfish players do not make the players around them better, they do not help their teammates and they ultimately hurt their team. Good coaches do not allow selfish play.

I would love to see a Goalie, Defender or two way midfielder win the T but I do not believe it will happen this year. My guess is it will go to an Attacker on the team that wins The National Championship (all of them are excellent). It's just very difficult to quantify the value that other players bring, much easier to count goals.

Good Luck to all.

Go Terps!!!
You need to get over yourself. The shots on goal percentage is the densest stat ever. Plenty of ball hogs will have a high shots on goal percentage. Would rather have a player who is trying to hit corners and misses than throwing into the goalies stick over and over. Your whole post is drivel but my favorite ones are " good coaches do not allow selfish play" and " Ball hogs are selfish and will always hurt their team"

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Division I Women’s Lacrosse Players of the Week 5-17-22

Offensive Player of the Week

Livy Rosenzweig – Loyola University Maryland

Rosenzweig played a major role in No. 5 Loyola advancing to the quarterfinal round for the first time since 2015. She shared game-high honors in points for both games and led an offense that scored more goals on each of its opponents than any other team this season. She tallied her 11th hat-trick of the season against Mount St. Mary’s and stretched her point streak to 75 straight games against No. 10 James Madison. She also added six assists and a career-high 13 draw controls against JMU. Rosenzweig’s 13 draw controls breaks Loyola’s all-time career mark, and she now stands as the second player in Patriot League history (20th in NCAA history) to win 400 draws throughout their career. Loyola will face No. 3 Boston College in the NCAA Division I Quarterfinals this Thursday.

Defensive Player of the Week

Arielle Weissman – University of Michigan

Weissman notched a career-high 17 saves in a 17-11 first-round victory over No. 16 Notre Dame. Weissman tallied a .607 save percentage on 39 shots faced against the Irish. She now ranks seventh in the nation for her goals-against average (9.01) and sixth in the nation for her save percentage (.505). She later recorded nine saves and one ground ball against No. 6 Northwestern.

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Division II Women’s Lacrosse Players of the Week 5-16-22

Offensive Player of the Week

Emily Mitarotonda – East Stroudsburg University

Mitarotonda established a new program record for goals in a season after registering five goals in No. 3 East Stroudsburg’s first-round win over Mercyhurst, 13-3. Sitting at 75 goals on the season, the sophomore followed with a dominating offensive performance in the Atlantic Region Championship, helping ESU take down rival No. 6 West Chester, 13-12, in an overtime thriller. Including the game-winner, Mitarotonda tallied seven goals to match her career and season-high, bumping her season total to 82. She scored six of ESU’s second-half goals and added eight draw controls to her stat line. As the top seed of the NCAA DII National Championship semifinals, the Warriors will face fourth-seeded Queens on Friday.

Defensive Player of the Week

Alex Walling – University of Tampa

Walling recorded 14 saves in the first-round matchup against No. 1 Queens of the NCAA Division II Tournament. Walling's 14 saves against the number one scoring offense in the country gave her eight games this season with double-figure saves. The sophomore tallied 10 saves in the first half, which allowed Tampa to reach an 8-7 lead during the contest. Walling also added five ground balls in the matchup as well.

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Division III Women’s Lacrosse Players of the Week 5-17-22

Offensive Player of the Week

Jordan Basso - Gettysburg College

Basso notched the game-winning overtime goal to lift No. 4 Gettysburg to a thrilling 9-8 victory over Roanoke in the second round of the NCAA Division III Championship tournament. Basso's game-winning goal capped a comeback that saw the Bullets overcome a 7-3 second-half deficit. The sophomore finished the afternoon with three goals, two ground balls, and two caused turnovers. Gettysburg will face Denison in the NCAA Division III Round of 16 this Saturday.

Defensive Player of the Week

Lizzie Huesman – University of Chicago

Huesman helped the No. 20 Maroons keep the nation's top-scoring offense to six goals below their season average, defeating Capital 19-14 in the second round of the NCAA Division III Tournament. The midfielder recorded nine draw controls, four caused turnovers, and two ground balls in the matchup. UChicago will take on Middlebury College in the Round of 16 on Saturday.

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Dangerous shots yes…. Not sure about the Ball Hog accusation…. Not everyone who goes to goal or takes a lot of shots is a Ball Hog… she is a great player.[/quote]

Good players, offensive players primarily attackers who take a lot of shots will put 70% and above of their shots on goal (the really good ones will be close to 80% SOG) and they will score on 50% or more of their shots (the really good ones will be close to 60%). When you see players taking a lot of shots and their Shots on goal is below .700 and their overall shooting percentage is below .500 they are probably a "Ball Hog" because they are taking shots that should not be taken. Drop below .400 and they should most likely should be moving the ball instead of going to the goal. CN is way up there at .803 and .591 for her career.[/quote]

Final Four is set.... It will all come down to Goalie Play and Team Defense. Northwestern had a great year but they will not make it to the finals.

Where are the know nothing Maryland haters?

As for CN haters, She is a great player, is she The Best? The best at what? BC could win without her goal scoring but they could not win without a very good goalie, very good defenders, very good "draw team" all three players (CN contributes there as well) and very good two way midfielders and very good coaching. Its a team game and scoring goals is only a part of it.

As far as being a "Ball Hog", CN is not a ball hog, not even close. Ball hogs are selfish and will always hurt their team, in most cases they will hurt their team in the most competitive and important game.

As of today, CN has a YTD shooting percentage of .529 and she has a Shots on Goal percentage of .742 (career at BC .558 & .803) she takes good quality high percentage shots and she operates as a cog in her coaches offensive scheme.

As one of the above posts points out, the "Ball Hogs" will not have numbers anywhere near CN. Ball Hogs will score some goals but their shooting percentage will be low. Show me a player taking a lot of shots with a below .700 Shots on Goal percentage for their career and a below .400 shooting percentage and I will show you a selfish player (Ball Hog) who will most certainly hurt their team. Selfish players do not make the players around them better, they do not help their teammates and they ultimately hurt their team. Good coaches do not allow selfish play.

I would love to see a Goalie, Defender or two way midfielder win the T but I do not believe it will happen this year. My guess is it will go to an Attacker on the team that wins The National Championship (all of them are excellent). It's just very difficult to quantify the value that other players bring, much easier to count goals.

Good Luck to all.

Go Terps!!![/quote]
You need to get over yourself. The shots on goal percentage is the densest stat ever. Plenty of ball hogs will have a high shots on goal percentage. Would rather have a player who is trying to hit corners and misses than throwing into the goalies stick over and over. Your whole post is drivel but my favorite ones are " good coaches do not allow selfish play" and " Ball hogs are selfish and will always hurt their team"[/quote]

Wow, it appears that he struck a nerve. While I would somewhat agree with you about shooting for corners if we were discussing Men's Lacrosse where guys are ripping it from 12 - 15 yards and beyond but in the women's game the guy is spot on. Good Attackers push .500 or better shooting percentage and they put close to .800 of their shots on goal maybe .775 or better. Selfish players absolutely hurt their team in more ways than one. Do you really believe that good coaches allow selfish play?

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Wow, it appears that he struck a nerve. While I would somewhat agree with you about shooting for corners if we were discussing Men's Lacrosse where guys are ripping it from 12 - 15 yards and beyond but in the women's game the guy is spot on. Good Attackers push .500 or better shooting percentage and they put close to .800 of their shots on goal maybe .775 or better. Selfish players absolutely hurt their team in more ways than one. Do you really believe that good coaches allow selfish play?

Yes struck a nerve , when people post gibberish like your post it’s bothersome .Good coaches encourage players to be selfish all the time . Do you not think when Skane is playing Amonte does not encourage her to keep the ball and go the goal even when a teammate may be open , or do you not believe Levy has encouraged Ortega to be more selfish as she tends to not be that type of player but you want the ball in her stick more often than not .Spallina was telling Massera to keep shooting against UNC even thou she was 2 for 11 and taking some low percentage shots because she is their best player .
Shots on goal is a silly stat , any player can throw the ball into the goalies stick .

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CN is a great player. Will she repeat, that is TBD. But one thing is for sure. The BC players have benefited greatly from her on the offensive end of the field. She is difficult to
Cover up 1v1 so the amount of 1st slides and 2nd slides she creates is huge for the offensive last year and this year. Many open players for easy shots as we saw v Loyola. It many times is a hockey asst which doesn’t show up in stats. Thursday night BS bought steak for her(joke). In watching game very few BC players were able to get around a shoulder to create a slide except CN.BCs fast break offense was the difference maker v loyola

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Piscataway is near Rutgers isn’t it

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