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Re: Girls High School Lax
Anonymous #379901 05/17/22 10:00 PM
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Actually, both coaches sign off on the stats at the end of game and take a photo of both books. Sorry your daughter doesn’t have any. Stats aren’t everything but they do matter. If you have proof of fake stats you should contact Section XI not make outlandish statements with nothing to back it up.

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Why are the brackets not out yet? Also sick of the stat seekers. Especially those who play more games than others and pad against weak teams, or play in weak conferences. The stat wars are really hurting many teams and turning girls into ball hogs!


The whole stat thing is a joke anyways. That should not be looked at seriously. So many different factors in the stats and it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe only count stats in the playoffs. Other than that, a total joke!

Stat leaders will get the post season awards. Sad but if social media didn’t focus so much of the worth of the player by the stats, this wouldn’t happen. Some coaches also encourage it at even send any fake stats (like draw controls) they can into LILJ to promote their players.

It would be great to see them keep stats on "Shots that should not have been taken" the shots that the selfish players take when they shouldn't... whether because of the situation in the game or because they should be making one more pass or because they are too far out or whatever... Many times these shots result in an easy save or miss the cage and result in a turnover either way these foolish shots result in transition for the other team and many times the end up with a goal for the other team.


Winning team reports stats. As someone who has taken stats. I was never consulted on them. Some schools value more things then others. All Newsday cares about is

Win
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Assists
Maybe saves

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Anonymous #379923 05/18/22 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Actually, both coaches sign off on the stats at the end of game and take a photo of both books. Sorry your daughter doesn’t have any. Stats aren’t everything but they do matter. If you have proof of fake stats you should contact Section XI not make outlandish statements with nothing to back it up.

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Why are the brackets not out yet? Also sick of the stat seekers. Especially those who play more games than others and pad against weak teams, or play in weak conferences. The stat wars are really hurting many teams and turning girls into ball hogs!


The whole stat thing is a joke anyways. That should not be looked at seriously. So many different factors in the stats and it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe only count stats in the playoffs. Other than that, a total joke!

Stat leaders will get the post season awards. Sad but if social media didn’t focus so much of the worth of the player by the stats, this wouldn’t happen. Some coaches also encourage it at even send any fake stats (like draw controls) they can into LILJ to promote their players.

It would be great to see them keep stats on "Shots that should not have been taken" the shots that the selfish players take when they shouldn't... whether because of the situation in the game or because they should be making one more pass or because they are too far out or whatever... Many times these shots result in an easy save or miss the cage and result in a turnover either way these foolish shots result in transition for the other team and many times the end up with a goal for the other team.


Winning team reports stats. As someone who has taken stats. I was never consulted on them. Some schools value more things then others. All Newsday cares about is

Win
Goals
Assists
Maybe saves

Winning team also can be guilty of creative stat taking, for example draws and assists. Please don’t try to deny that this is not the norm for certain teams.

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Anonymous #379929 05/18/22 06:52 AM
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BBP offense puts you in shooting space by working teams, not relying on it. They move the ball fast and close to the 12M. Rocky Point had a good year credit to the kids, and staff but they move the ball around 20-25M away from the goal that’s why they don’t get as many SS calls. So give me a break on the refs thing. RP should have had 2 other yellows earlier in the game as well.

Agree with your comment on shot clock we need it.

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B_O_T_C #380040 05/18/22 12:22 PM
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The head ref was bbp. best player and it was pretty obvious

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Anonymous #380048 05/18/22 12:59 PM
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The head ref was bbp. best player and it was pretty obvious

It was also obvious that BBP was the better team

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Anonymous #380051 05/18/22 01:11 PM
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Are you guys serious.? Watch the game. BBP was the better team. Anyone can see that. RP was good but just not the better team - watch the game. Teach sportsmanship to your kids that applies to both teams but BBP deserved the win and they got it hands down.

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Anonymous #380082 05/18/22 03:20 PM
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is the IAAM conference in Maryland the best conference? The 3rd best team in the conference beat the best team on Long Island by 9 goals. I would imagine St. Anthony's might be at the bottom of that conference?

I'm not sure what your point is.. Mcdonagh, SPSG, GCS, would beat every team on LI, Upstate NY. Ct. Pa..
Saint Anthonys has the same issue as McD.. sub-par coaching

Really? Isn't McD head coach Taylor Cummings or am I mistaken? What high schools do you think have great coaching?

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Anonymous #380086 05/18/22 03:39 PM
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is the IAAM conference in Maryland the best conference? The 3rd best team in the conference beat the best team on Long Island by 9 goals. I would imagine St. Anthony's might be at the bottom of that conference?

I'm not sure what your point is.. Mcdonagh, SPSG, GCS, would beat every team on LI, Upstate NY. Ct. Pa..
Saint Anthonys has the same issue as McD.. sub-par coaching

Really? Isn't McD head coach Taylor Cummings or am I mistaken? What high schools do you think have great coaching?

Don’t assume that great players mean great coaches. As for the iaam, all I can tell you is that I saw SPSG absolutely roll every team in indoor. I know it isn’t the same game but it wasn’t even close.

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Anonymous #380105 05/18/22 05:12 PM
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is the IAAM conference in Maryland the best conference? The 3rd best team in the conference beat the best team on Long Island by 9 goals. I would imagine St. Anthony's might be at the bottom of that conference?

I'm not sure what your point is.. Mcdonagh, SPSG, GCS, would beat every team on LI, Upstate NY. Ct. Pa..
Saint Anthonys has the same issue as McD.. sub-par coaching

Really? Isn't McD head coach Taylor Cummings or am I mistaken? What high schools do you think have great coaching?

Don’t assume that great players mean great coaches. As for the iaam, all I can tell you is that I saw SPSG absolutely roll every team in indoor. I know it isn’t the same game but it wasn’t even close.

Just curious why do you think in SPSG's case, it's good coaching but not in McD's case?

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B_O_T_C #380168 05/19/22 08:13 AM
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Winning team reports stats. As someone who has taken stats. I was never consulted on them. Some schools value more things then others. All Newsday cares about is

Win
Goals
Assists
Maybe saves[/quote]

Winning team also can be guilty of creative stat taking, for example draws and assists. Please don’t try to deny that this is not the norm for certain teams.[/quote]
There is a pretty simple way to resolve this. Newsday should list the stats by division played in, that way you'll see apples to apples. What is a player in a lower division supposed to do, not score or assist against weaker opponents? Once playoffs begin you see how the lower division will struggle against better teams.

There is a pretty simple way to resolve this. Newsday should list the stats by division played in, that way you'll see apples to apples. What is a player in a lower division supposed to do, not score or assist against weaker opponents? Once playoffs begin you see how the lower division will struggle against better teams.

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Anonymous #380211 05/19/22 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Winning team reports stats. As someone who has taken stats. I was never consulted on them. Some schools value more things then others. All Newsday cares about is

Win
Goals
Assists
Maybe saves

Winning team also can be guilty of creative stat taking, for example draws and assists. Please don’t try to deny that this is not the norm for certain teams.[/quote]
There is a pretty simple way to resolve this. Newsday should list the stats by division played in, that way you'll see apples to apples. What is a player in a lower division supposed to do, not score or assist against weaker opponents? Once playoffs begin you see how the lower division will struggle against better teams.

There is a pretty simple way to resolve this. Newsday should list the stats by division played in, that way you'll see apples to apples. What is a player in a lower division supposed to do, not score or assist against weaker opponents? Once playoffs begin you see how the lower division will struggle against better teams.[/quote]

It's still not apples to apples, even teams in the same division or conference don't play the same schedule of opponents. Some teams that are ranked in middle of pack or bottom of pack will feast on the worst competition. Highly ranked teams play the toughest schedule of opponents, that's what power ranking schedules does. That's why you always see a few high stat kids from weak programs. At least in Suffolk anyway....

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Anonymous #380214 05/19/22 10:21 AM
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Winning team reports stats. As someone who has taken stats. I was never consulted on them. Some schools value more things then others. All Newsday cares about is

Win
Goals
Assists
Maybe saves

Winning team also can be guilty of creative stat taking, for example draws and assists. Please don’t try to deny that this is not the norm for certain teams.
There is a pretty simple way to resolve this. Newsday should list the stats by division played in, that way you'll see apples to apples. What is a player in a lower division supposed to do, not score or assist against weaker opponents? Once playoffs begin you see how the lower division will struggle against better teams.

There is a pretty simple way to resolve this. Newsday should list the stats by division played in, that way you'll see apples to apples. What is a player in a lower division supposed to do, not score or assist against weaker opponents? Once playoffs begin you see how the lower division will struggle against better teams.[/quote]

It's still not apples to apples, even teams in the same division or conference don't play the same schedule of opponents. Some teams that are ranked in middle of pack or bottom of pack will feast on the worst competition. Highly ranked teams play the toughest schedule of opponents, that's what power ranking schedules does. That's why you always see a few high stat kids from weak programs. At least in Suffolk anyway....[/quote]

Totally. The stat reporting in Newsday is ridiculous way to judge LI players. Total wrong picture of what’s really happening on the LI LAX scene. Should No way lump conferences and the stats all together like that. It’s useless stats, that have no real insight to the best players. Save the stats for the playoff games and maybe then ,can get a better picture of the best players and their stats?

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Anonymous #380256 05/19/22 12:36 PM
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That won't work either. There are decent players on bad teams that don't make the playoffs. Those are usually the ones feasting on poor competition, but to only use playoff stats isn't fair either

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B_O_T_C #380270 05/19/22 01:20 PM
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Everyone is so focused on either goals and assists,how about caused turnover and ground balls being the game changers.we never see those status

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B_O_T_C #380277 05/19/22 01:36 PM
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My daughter's team has a really good defense, works the ball around for a good shot, never beats up the weaker teams too badly, and lets the younger players get in there when the game is out of reach. None of the girls are even close to being on these inflated stat lists. They had a great season. As a team. Ground balls, caused turnovers, draw controls, saving balls that could have been turnovers, pulling it out on free positions to keep possession. These things won games.

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