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Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
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What probably needs to happen is about 10-12 of the teams in HoCo (across all divisions) need to contract/merge. There are several good players buried on terrible clubs who’d stand to develop a lot more someplace else. This would also restock the rec ranks because that’s where a lot of these kids should be playing. And there is nothing at all wrong with that. It would improve the experience for everyone all the way around.

Cept of course for the pay to play club directors being paid handsomely.
Couldn't agree more. A lot of these Elite teams are not looking for kids. If you were to take the top kids from KP, FCA White, 91 and Predators you would probably have a solid Elite team. These teams are also relative to each other. The bottom 10-12 kids on these teams are probably A, AA or even rec players hurting the top players performance. But then again it's a money thing with these clubs.

Thanks Preds dad.
Will Rock or Koopers have teams at 2028 next year?

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What probably needs to happen is about 10-12 of the teams in HoCo (across all divisions) need to contract/merge. There are several good players buried on terrible clubs who’d stand to develop a lot more someplace else. This would also restock the rec ranks because that’s where a lot of these kids should be playing. And there is nothing at all wrong with that. It would improve the experience for everyone all the way around.

Cept of course for the pay to play club directors being paid handsomely.
Couldn't agree more. A lot of these Elite teams are not looking for kids. If you were to take the top kids from KP, FCA White, 91 and Predators you would probably have a solid Elite team. These teams are also relative to each other. The bottom 10-12 kids on these teams are probably A, AA or even rec players hurting the top players performance. But then again it's a money thing with these clubs.

Thanks Preds dad.
Will Rock or Koopers have teams at 2028 next year?

Koopers will try. They almost pulled it off this year (2028 roster size and dedicated coach were not a sure thing until it was too late). Not sure if their lease of St Pauls fields extends to next year. Koopers has been fairly successful doing what T91 2028 did this year - grabbing a successful rec-club coach to bring a core of rec kids over and get a good thing going at a new club.

As for Rock, I thought they never have teams below 9th grade. But could be bad info on my end.

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What probably needs to happen is about 10-12 of the teams in HoCo (across all divisions) need to contract/merge. There are several good players buried on terrible clubs who’d stand to develop a lot more someplace else. This would also restock the rec ranks because that’s where a lot of these kids should be playing. And there is nothing at all wrong with that. It would improve the experience for everyone all the way around.

Cept of course for the pay to play club directors being paid handsomely.
Couldn't agree more. A lot of these Elite teams are not looking for kids. If you were to take the top kids from KP, FCA White, 91 and Predators you would probably have a solid Elite team. These teams are also relative to each other. The bottom 10-12 kids on these teams are probably A, AA or even rec players hurting the top players performance. But then again it's a money thing with these clubs.

Consolidating those teams wouldn’t actually do all that much to improve performance. It’s the top 4-5 players on NL, Hawks, etc. that separate them out. If you moved the Hawks goalie, FO, and top 2 offensive players to KP that team would finish no worse than fourth and likely higher in elite. Same thing if you gave BLC, the NL goalie, FO, and top 2 offensive players. But if you gave KP or BLC the entire rosters of Blue Claws, FCA White, and 91, they’d have more depth but would be marginally better if at all. People don’t want to admit it, but only a handful of kids on any elite team is an actual difference maker.

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What probably needs to happen is about 10-12 of the teams in HoCo (across all divisions) need to contract/merge. There are several good players buried on terrible clubs who’d stand to develop a lot more someplace else. This would also restock the rec ranks because that’s where a lot of these kids should be playing. And there is nothing at all wrong with that. It would improve the experience for everyone all the way around.

Cept of course for the pay to play club directors being paid handsomely.
Couldn't agree more. A lot of these Elite teams are not looking for kids. If you were to take the top kids from KP, FCA White, 91 and Predators you would probably have a solid Elite team. These teams are also relative to each other. The bottom 10-12 kids on these teams are probably A, AA or even rec players hurting the top players performance. But then again it's a money thing with these clubs.

Consolidating those teams wouldn’t actually do all that much to improve performance. It’s the top 4-5 players on NL, Hawks, etc. that separate them out. If you moved the Hawks goalie, FO, and top 2 offensive players to KP that team would finish no worse than fourth and likely higher in elite. Same thing if you gave BLC, the NL goalie, FO, and top 2 offensive players. But if you gave KP or BLC the entire rosters of Blue Claws, FCA White, and 91, they’d have more depth but would be marginally better if at all. People don’t want to admit it, but only a handful of kids on any elite team is an actual difference maker.

Correct. There are many contributors who are good players. There are 1-4 players per team who are difference makers.

The good thing is that as puberty sets in, the kids that are, or have been, the difference makers will change. That’s another reality people don’t like to admit.

Some of the kids will be 6-4 and 200 pounds plus, some will be 5-6 and 145. It’s a huge advantage, not to say there aren’t smaller guys who dominate (Chris Gray, Matt Rambo) but there are a lot more Pat Spencer’s than Chris Grays.

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What probably needs to happen is about 10-12 of the teams in HoCo (across all divisions) need to contract/merge. There are several good players buried on terrible clubs who’d stand to develop a lot more someplace else. This would also restock the rec ranks because that’s where a lot of these kids should be playing. And there is nothing at all wrong with that. It would improve the experience for everyone all the way around.

Cept of course for the pay to play club directors being paid handsomely.
Couldn't agree more. A lot of these Elite teams are not looking for kids. If you were to take the top kids from KP, FCA White, 91 and Predators you would probably have a solid Elite team. These teams are also relative to each other. The bottom 10-12 kids on these teams are probably A, AA or even rec players hurting the top players performance. But then again it's a money thing with these clubs.

Thanks Preds dad.
Will Rock or Koopers have teams at 2028 next year?

Koopers will try. They almost pulled it off this year (2028 roster size and dedicated coach were not a sure thing until it was too late). Not sure if their lease of St Pauls fields extends to next year. Koopers has been fairly successful doing what T91 2028 did this year - grabbing a successful rec-club coach to bring a core of rec kids over and get a good thing going at a new club.

As for Rock, I thought they never have teams below 9th grade. But could be bad info on my end.
I am not sure what you are talking about. Team 91 is horrible in this age group. The "Successful" rec coach only won one game last year and might win 2 this year.

it is a shame that you think it is OK to destroy one team to put together another marginally horrible team. Team 91 is a place for kids to go when no other team will take them.

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NL had Hawks on the ropes. No doubt, best game of the year so far. How did NL get so much better? Did they get players from Mad Lax? I see the guys who used to make all the penalties are gone.
He switched to blc he hasnt been very helpful they thought he would be the big man but he doesnt know the ropes of being a pole

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ML DMV GETTING SMOKED BY NL RED CALLING IT IT'S GONNA BE LIKE THE ELITE GAME ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!!

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What probably needs to happen is about 10-12 of the teams in HoCo (across all divisions) need to contract/merge. There are several good players buried on terrible clubs who’d stand to develop a lot more someplace else. This would also restock the rec ranks because that’s where a lot of these kids should be playing. And there is nothing at all wrong with that. It would improve the experience for everyone all the way around.

Cept of course for the pay to play club directors being paid handsomely.
Couldn't agree more. A lot of these Elite teams are not looking for kids. If you were to take the top kids from KP, FCA White, 91 and Predators you would probably have a solid Elite team. These teams are also relative to each other. The bottom 10-12 kids on these teams are probably A, AA or even rec players hurting the top players performance. But then again it's a money thing with these clubs.

Thanks Preds dad.
Will Rock or Koopers have teams at 2028 next year?

Koopers will try. They almost pulled it off this year (2028 roster size and dedicated coach were not a sure thing until it was too late). Not sure if their lease of St Pauls fields extends to next year. Koopers has been fairly successful doing what T91 2028 did this year - grabbing a successful rec-club coach to bring a core of rec kids over and get a good thing going at a new club.

As for Rock, I thought they never have teams below 9th grade. But could be bad info on my end.
I am not sure what you are talking about. Team 91 is horrible in this age group. The "Successful" rec coach only won one game last year and might win 2 this year.

it is a shame that you think it is OK to destroy one team to put together another marginally horrible team. Team 91 is a place for kids to go when no other team will take them.

Another poster with “91 deranged syndrome.” Find another hobby. I’m sure bashing 6th graders is fun for you but I know you can find something else to do with your time. Or maybe you can’t.

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So top 4 teams in each division make playoffs? I heard there may be a play-in game in 1 or 2 divisions. Anyone know which ones.

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So top 4 teams in each division make playoffs? I heard there may be a play-in game in 1 or 2 divisions. Anyone know which ones.

There’s only a play in game in divisions with an odd number of teams. So if you have 9, there is a play in between 4 and 5 seed. But if you have an even number then just top 8 for the playoffs.

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For elite playoffs are basically already determined. hawks will be # 1 seed since even if they lost they have the tie breaker with NL (head to head win). NL will be the 2 seed win or lose since they have the tie breaker with Madlax. Madlax will be the three seed win or lose since it would have tie breakers against Crabs and FCA in the event of a loss. As long as FCA wins against BLC they will be the 4 seed since they have the tie breaker with crabs (even if crabs somehow beat hawks). Crabs could get the 4 seed if (1) they beat Hawks and (2) BLC beats FCA. Not a likely scenario to say the least.

So it will be Hawks v. FCA and Madlax v. NL in the semi finals.

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What probably needs to happen is about 10-12 of the teams in HoCo (across all divisions) need to contract/merge. There are several good players buried on terrible clubs who’d stand to develop a lot more someplace else. This would also restock the rec ranks because that’s where a lot of these kids should be playing. And there is nothing at all wrong with that. It would improve the experience for everyone all the way around.

Cept of course for the pay to play club directors being paid handsomely.
Couldn't agree more. A lot of these Elite teams are not looking for kids. If you were to take the top kids from KP, FCA White, 91 and Predators you would probably have a solid Elite team. These teams are also relative to each other. The bottom 10-12 kids on these teams are probably A, AA or even rec players hurting the top players performance. But then again it's a money thing with these clubs.

Thanks Preds dad.
Will Rock or Koopers have teams at 2028 next year?

Koopers will try. They almost pulled it off this year (2028 roster size and dedicated coach were not a sure thing until it was too late). Not sure if their lease of St Pauls fields extends to next year. Koopers has been fairly successful doing what T91 2028 did this year - grabbing a successful rec-club coach to bring a core of rec kids over and get a good thing going at a new club.

As for Rock, I thought they never have teams below 9th grade. But could be bad info on my end.
I am not sure what you are talking about. Team 91 is horrible in this age group. The "Successful" rec coach only won one game last year and might win 2 this year.

it is a shame that you think it is OK to destroy one team to put together another marginally horrible team. Team 91 is a place for kids to go when no other team will take them.

(poster above). To be clear, I think 91 is a huge con and I enjoy their ridiculousness. I'm guessing you are a Swarm or Koopers dad (both 2028s hemmoraged players to 91 this fall). In your shoes, T91 is probably not humerous at all. OK I get that.

It can't be said that 2028 T91 hasn't improved. They were horrible at old AAA/new AAAA last year, and now they are "competitive but losing" at the same level. I would be happier if they were horrible. They are not. It's not very complicated. They one 1 game at this level last year, and they've won 3 this year.

Who cares what I think is OK? The way clubs are run, from Madlax to True, is garbage and we all know it. If you know the personalities of lax club directors and the personalities of many head coaches........certainly the ones with a social media presence.......you must know that both are almost always looking for "what's next." And it's not just club. The average NCAA lax coach has a 3 year tenure. How do you tell them to not take opportunities? And guess what, many of those dudes take players with them!

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Weekend Predictions:

Hawks 13 Crabs 7
FCA 9 BLC 2
Madlax 14 KP 1
NL 12 True 4

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Weekend Predictions:

Hawks 13 Crabs 7
FCA 9 BLC 2
Madlax 14 KP 1
NL 12 True 4


Hawks 12 Crabs 2
BLC 7 FCA 6
Madlax 10 KP 0
NL 15 True 4

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Weekend Predictions:

Hawks 13 Crabs 7
FCA 9 BLC 2
Madlax 14 KP 1
NL 12 True 4


Hawks 12 Crabs 2
BLC 7 FCA 6
Madlax 10 KP 0
NL 15 True 4

Thanks NL dad. You seem objective.

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