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Re: 2021-2022 Women's DI-III College Lacrosse Season
baldbear #378509 05/10/22 03:54 PM
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Divison I Women’s Lacrosse Rankings 5-9-2022

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 North Carolina (18 - 0) 400 (16) 1
2 Maryland (17 - 1) 378 3
3 Boston College (16 - 3) 374 2
4 Syracuse (13 - 5) 330 5
5 Loyola (18 - 1) 326 7
6 Northwestern (13 - 4) 319 4
7 Stony Brook (14 - 2) 302 6
8 Florida (15 - 4) 290 8
9 Princeton (14 - 3) 263 9
10 James Madison (13 - 4) 256 10
11 Rutgers (15 - 4) 241 13
12 Denver (17 - 2) 221 12
13 Duke (15 - 3) 214 11
14 Stanford (12 - 6) 180 17
15 Virginia (9 - 9) 165 14
16 Notre Dame (9 - 9) 148 15
17 Jacksonville (13 - 4) 117 20
18 USC (13 - 4) 113 16
19 Arizona State (11 - 8) 94 23
20 UConn (13 - 4) 89 18
21 Michigan (10 - 6) 82 21
22 UMass (16 - 3) 74 19
23 Saint Joseph's (14 - 6) 73 NR
24 Yale (11 - 6) 45 23
25 Johns Hopkins (10 - 8) 35 22
RV Navy, Drexel, Ohio State, Richmond, Vanderbilt, Mercer, Pitt, Temple, Vermont

So, How did the predictions turn out.... ? below is the preseason Top 20.... Will there be a lot of movement after the Tournament?

NIKE/USA LACROSSE
DIVISION I WOMEN’S PRESEASON TOP 20

​​1. Boston College
2. North Carolina
3. Syracuse
4. Northwestern
5. Stony Brook
6. Maryland
7. Notre Dame
8. Duke
9. Loyola
10. Florida
11. Virginia
12. James Madison
13. Princeton
14. Stanford
15. Denver
16. Rutgers
17. Drexel
18. Jacksonville
19. UConn
20. Penn

Also considered (alphabetical order): Johns Hopkins, Louisville, Michigan, Penn State, Richmond, Temple

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Re: 2021-2022 Women's DI-III College Lacrosse Season
Anonymous #378520 05/10/22 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by baldbear
Divison I Women’s Lacrosse Rankings 5-9-2022

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 North Carolina (18 - 0) 400 (16) 1
2 Maryland (17 - 1) 378 3
3 Boston College (16 - 3) 374 2
4 Syracuse (13 - 5) 330 5
5 Loyola (18 - 1) 326 7
6 Northwestern (13 - 4) 319 4
7 Stony Brook (14 - 2) 302 6
8 Florida (15 - 4) 290 8
9 Princeton (14 - 3) 263 9
10 James Madison (13 - 4) 256 10
11 Rutgers (15 - 4) 241 13
12 Denver (17 - 2) 221 12
13 Duke (15 - 3) 214 11
14 Stanford (12 - 6) 180 17
15 Virginia (9 - 9) 165 14
16 Notre Dame (9 - 9) 148 15
17 Jacksonville (13 - 4) 117 20
18 USC (13 - 4) 113 16
19 Arizona State (11 - 8) 94 23
20 UConn (13 - 4) 89 18
21 Michigan (10 - 6) 82 21
22 UMass (16 - 3) 74 19
23 Saint Joseph's (14 - 6) 73 NR
24 Yale (11 - 6) 45 23
25 Johns Hopkins (10 - 8) 35 22
RV Navy, Drexel, Ohio State, Richmond, Vanderbilt, Mercer, Pitt, Temple, Vermont

So, How did the predictions turn out.... ? below is the preseason Top 20.... Will there be a lot of movement after the Tournament?

NIKE/USA LACROSSE
DIVISION I WOMEN’S PRESEASON TOP 20

​​1. Boston College
2. North Carolina
3. Syracuse
4. Northwestern
5. Stony Brook
6. Maryland
7. Notre Dame
8. Duke
9. Loyola
10. Florida
11. Virginia
12. James Madison
13. Princeton
14. Stanford
15. Denver
16. Rutgers
17. Drexel
18. Jacksonville
19. UConn
20. Penn

Also considered (alphabetical order): Johns Hopkins, Louisville, Michigan, Penn State, Richmond, Temple

Out: Penn & Drexel

In: Arizona State & USC

Only surprise is Penn not being Top 20, I bet it's been over 10 years since the Quakers did not finish the season ranked in the Top 20. Also surprised how far Dartmouth fell off. Arizona St, Jacksonville and Rutgers have come on strong. UConn has been doing ok and UMass is quietly Top 20 more times than not.

Very surprised with the growth of the sport we have not seem more parity, basically the same programs year in and year out.

Anyone have any upset predictions for the Tournament?

If JMU gets by UConn I think they can upset Loyola and possibly BC.

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Anonymous #378540 05/10/22 08:09 PM
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If you think JMU can upset Loyola and BC they will. crush UConn. JMU zone will give UConn fits just like Denver's did. Also UConn is not good and is lucky to be in the tournament.

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Anonymous #378792 05/12/22 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by baldbear
Divison I Women’s Lacrosse Rankings 5-9-2022

Rank Institution Points (FPV) Last Poll

1 North Carolina (18 - 0) 400 (16) 1
2 Maryland (17 - 1) 378 3
3 Boston College (16 - 3) 374 2
4 Syracuse (13 - 5) 330 5
5 Loyola (18 - 1) 326 7
6 Northwestern (13 - 4) 319 4
7 Stony Brook (14 - 2) 302 6
8 Florida (15 - 4) 290 8
9 Princeton (14 - 3) 263 9
10 James Madison (13 - 4) 256 10
11 Rutgers (15 - 4) 241 13
12 Denver (17 - 2) 221 12
13 Duke (15 - 3) 214 11
14 Stanford (12 - 6) 180 17
15 Virginia (9 - 9) 165 14
16 Notre Dame (9 - 9) 148 15
17 Jacksonville (13 - 4) 117 20
18 USC (13 - 4) 113 16
19 Arizona State (11 - 8) 94 23
20 UConn (13 - 4) 89 18
21 Michigan (10 - 6) 82 21
22 UMass (16 - 3) 74 19
23 Saint Joseph's (14 - 6) 73 NR
24 Yale (11 - 6) 45 23
25 Johns Hopkins (10 - 8) 35 22
RV Navy, Drexel, Ohio State, Richmond, Vanderbilt, Mercer, Pitt, Temple, Vermont

So, How did the predictions turn out.... ? below is the preseason Top 20.... Will there be a lot of movement after the Tournament?

NIKE/USA LACROSSE
DIVISION I WOMEN’S PRESEASON TOP 20

​​1. Boston College
2. North Carolina
3. Syracuse
4. Northwestern
5. Stony Brook
6. Maryland
7. Notre Dame
8. Duke
9. Loyola
10. Florida
11. Virginia
12. James Madison
13. Princeton
14. Stanford
15. Denver
16. Rutgers
17. Drexel
18. Jacksonville
19. UConn
20. Penn

Also considered (alphabetical order): Johns Hopkins, Louisville, Michigan, Penn State, Richmond, Temple

Out: Penn & Drexel

In: Arizona State & USC

Only surprise is Penn not being Top 20, I bet it's been over 10 years since the Quakers did not finish the season ranked in the Top 20. Also surprised how far Dartmouth fell off. Arizona St, Jacksonville and Rutgers have come on strong. UConn has been doing ok and UMass is quietly Top 20 more times than not.

Very surprised with the growth of the sport we have not seem more parity, basically the same programs year in and year out.

Anyone have any upset predictions for the Tournament?

If JMU gets by UConn I think they can upset Loyola and possibly BC.

Penn not finishing the season ranked in the Top 20 and not making the tournament is the biggest surprise. Just checked, from 2010 - 2020 Penn finished ranked in the Top 20 every year with 5 Top 10 finishes and I would assume that they also made the Tournament every year as well. Will Penn be back next year or will Yale be the new contender in the Ivy's?

Syracuse, Duke and JMU have the best chance at upsetting one of the Top 4 seeds, don't think anyone knocking UNC off before the Final Four. Should be a great tournament and fun to watch.

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Anonymous #378815 05/12/22 10:26 AM
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Out: Penn & Drexel

In: Arizona State & USC

Only surprise is Penn not being Top 20, I bet it's been over 10 years since the Quakers did not finish the season ranked in the Top 20. Also surprised how far Dartmouth fell off. Arizona St, Jacksonville and Rutgers have come on strong. UConn has been doing ok and UMass is quietly Top 20 more times than not.

Very surprised with the growth of the sport we have not seem more parity, basically the same programs year in and year out.

Anyone have any upset predictions for the Tournament?

If JMU gets by UConn I think they can upset Loyola and possibly BC.

In a way, yes, it's the same programs year in and year out but I think there is more parity the past five years. From 2005-2017, NU and MD won all but two national championships. Four different teams have won the last five national championship games played. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I think the years of the same team winning it year after year are over. The shot clock has helped with that also. UNC is the favorite to win it all this year and they have not made the championship game since 2016. I don't have any specific predictions, but I think there could be a few upsets along the way. Not sure NU rebounds to make the final four, and MD vs UF should be more competitive rematch. Several seeded teams will need to play really well in the second round to advance.

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Re: 2021-2022 Women's DI-III College Lacrosse Season
TheBackOfTheCage #378962 05/13/22 10:45 AM
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A High Point player had 103 goals this season (surpassed CN's 102), and because she plays for High Point and not a top 10 school people think her accomplishment doesn't matter? What is happening? Has anyone else read the article in USA Lacrosse Magazine? Sad.

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Anonymous #378970 05/13/22 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
A High Point player had 103 goals this season (surpassed CN's 102), and because she plays for High Point and not a top 10 school people think her accomplishment doesn't matter? What is happening? Has anyone else read the article in USA Lacrosse Magazine? Sad.

Just looked.. Good for her!.

Bottom line is the record is hers.. Abby Hormes HPU-103 Goals 2022-

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Anonymous #378972 05/13/22 11:45 AM
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A High Point player had 103 goals this season (surpassed CN's 102), and because she plays for High Point and not a top 10 school people think her accomplishment doesn't matter? What is happening? Has anyone else read the article in USA Lacrosse Magazine? Sad.

Unfortunately, that’s how it works. Some peoples accomplishments mean more than others. US lacrosse has made that clear. It is sad

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A High Point player had 103 goals this season (surpassed CN's 102), and because she plays for High Point and not a top 10 school people think her accomplishment doesn't matter? What is happening? Has anyone else read the article in USA Lacrosse Magazine? Sad.
Nobody should feel the need to comment on someone's accomplishment and try to blemish it. How sad. It's an accomplishment in itself to play D1, no matter where the school lands in rankings. ALL accomplishments should be celebrated.

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She has the record but how can anyone say it is not different when you do so in a much weaker conference and over half your goals were in running clock games against teams probably ranked in the bottom half of D1. It's absurd to think it is the same thing. Congrats on the accomplishment and the record but it means less in my opinion. Maybe Scane will transfer to High Point next year and score 200 goals.

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She did put up 5 goals on UNC, 4 goals on JMU, and 2 goals on Duke. But yes, she feasted on lesser opponents. But Congrats to her. No one has done it before.

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She has the record but how can anyone say it is not different when you do so in a much weaker conference and over half your goals were in running clock games against teams probably ranked in the bottom half of D1. It's absurd to think it is the same thing. Congrats on the accomplishment and the record but it means less in my opinion. Maybe Scane will transfer to High Point next year and score 200 goals.
And that, right there...that's the problem. It does NOT mean less and maybe people like you need to keep your "opinion" to yourself instead of making someone feel less then. THAT is what is wrong these days. Mental Health is a REAL thing.

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She has the record but how can anyone say it is not different when you do so in a much weaker conference and over half your goals were in running clock games against teams probably ranked in the bottom half of D1. It's absurd to think it is the same thing. Congrats on the accomplishment and the record but it means less in my opinion. Maybe Scane will transfer to High Point next year and score 200 goals.
And that, right there...that's the problem. It does NOT mean less and maybe people like you need to keep your "opinion" to yourself instead of making someone feel less then. THAT is what is wrong these days. Mental Health is a REAL thing.

Kinda agree with the original poster and That’s what’s ruining this sport everyone is just spewing stats without context. Yes her 100+ plus goals are not the same if she played in the ACC. like it or not that’s how it is.

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Nice job by Stanford and USC . They stink and you can add ND also.

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She has the record but how can anyone say it is not different when you do so in a much weaker conference and over half your goals were in running clock games against teams probably ranked in the bottom half of D1. It's absurd to think it is the same thing. Congrats on the accomplishment and the record but it means less in my opinion. Maybe Scane will transfer to High Point next year and score 200 goals.
And that, right there...that's the problem. It does NOT mean less and maybe people like you need to keep your "opinion" to yourself instead of making someone feel less then. THAT is what is wrong these days. Mental Health is a REAL thing.

Kinda agree with the original poster and That’s what’s ruining this sport everyone is just spewing stats without context. Yes her 100+ plus goals are not the same if she played in the ACC. like it or not that’s how it is.

Hatters gonna detest... This is an incredible accomplishment and should be acknowledged, respected and celebrated. Would she have put up those numbers if she played in the ACC or Big 10? We will never know. What we do know is that when High Point competed against the more competitive teams i.e. North Carolina, Duke, JMU, Michigan she did just fine scoring 2 vs Duke, 4 vs JMU, 2 vs 2 vs Michigan and 5 vs North Carolina. Like it or not, High Point's "Strength of Schedule" Ranked #21 according to Laxnumbers.com which is pretty high. She is a stud and would most likely start/play every game for any team. I would compare her record to when Courtney Murphy did it at Stony Brook, both great players who would do very well at any school. Congratulations to her and her family as well as her coaches and teammates (we all know that some of you do not realize that lacrosse is a team sport) and for every goal that is scored many other players contributed (somebody cleared space, somebody moved the ball, somebody played good defense, somebody cleared the ball etc....). Erica Evans comes to mind when thinking of this, transferred from Canisus to Maryland and put up 74 points for The Terps. We are not talking about just any player on an average team we are talking about a "Great" player and she would be great on any team.

To all the haters out there, just be thankful that she is not on your daughters team because she would displace all but a few players on all of the Top Teams. :-)

Congratulations! Well Done.

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