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L.I. Girls High School Officials; Good, Bad or Ugly?
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Are the injuries being sustained by so many HS girls a direct result of bad officiating? Many will say yes. Some say no. However there is no way an entire girls lacrosse game can be played without a single shooting space by either team taking place. I have witnessed many games being officiated by certified refs who don't call shooting space all game long. This happens often and usually a few girls are hit by shots WITHOUT A DANGEROUS SHOT BEING CALLED as well.
This is a place to FINALLY PUT THE SPOT LIGHT on the officiating. The safety of the players are being compromised by many of these refs who often don't even know all the rules!!

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I would say that my biggest problem is inconsistency. Even in the same game the two refs call the game completely different making players unable to gauge their play.

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I would say that my biggest problem is inconsistency. Even in the same game the two refs call the game completely different making players unable to gauge their play.
My biggest problem is there is nobody overseeing the officials!!! Where is the quality assurance? Something needs to be done about the variation of the calls depending on the official!! There are officials out there that are clearly one sided against one of the teams!! Who is checking up on the officials!!! Sickening.

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I would say that my biggest problem is inconsistency. Even in the same game the two refs call the game completely different making players unable to gauge their play.
My biggest problem is there is nobody overseeing the officials!!! Where is the quality assurance? Something needs to be done about the variation of the calls depending on the official!! There are officials out there that are clearly one sided against one of the teams!! Who is checking up on the officials!!! Sickening.


Very true and considering the accolades and attention teams get when they win the officials play a big role. They control and change the outcome of games depending on their friendships. We have all seen it and it is OBVIOUS! What is the next step???

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Are they high number of injuries you're referring to a direct relation to being hit by a shot?

I have 2 daughters playing and have yet to see a serious injury (keep someone out of the game) from a shot.


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Are they high number of injuries you're referring to a direct relation to being hit by a shot?

I have 2 daughters playing and have yet to see a serious injury (keep someone out of the game) from a shot.



Lack of shooting space calls leads directly to injuries such as being hit in the face or body by the ball or the stick during the follow through. If you watched the women's D1 finals the UNC girls face was bloodied from a shot. I don't know how old your 2 girls are but it happens a lot. Count your blessings.

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Are they high number of injuries you're referring to a direct relation to being hit by a shot?

I have 2 daughters playing and have yet to see a serious injury (keep someone out of the game) from a shot.



Lack of shooting space calls leads directly to injuries such as being hit in the face or body by the ball or the stick during the follow through. If you watched the women's D1 finals the UNC girls face was bloodied from a shot. I don't know how old your 2 girls are but it happens a lot. Count your blessings.


I am surprised there is not more outrage at the state of officiating. Has anyone seen some of these games? These officials with a few exceptions are completely ridiculous. Even the way they speak to the players. They demand sportsmanship yet talk to them like s#]t. Nothing will change unless we force the change!!! I challenge anyone to go to MSG Varsity Interactive ch614 and watch playoff games from this year and last. The amount of bad calls and non calls is staggering. Anyone else performing their job this way WOULD BE FIRED! Why not the same standard....they do get paid after all.

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Are they high number of injuries you're referring to a direct relation to being hit by a shot?

I have 2 daughters playing and have yet to see a serious injury (keep someone out of the game) from a shot.



Lack of shooting space calls leads directly to injuries such as being hit in the face or body by the ball or the stick during the follow through. If you watched the women's D1 finals the UNC girls face was bloodied from a shot. I don't know how old your 2 girls are but it happens a lot. Count your blessings.


I am surprised there is not more outrage at the state of officiating. Has anyone seen some of these games? These officials with a few exceptions are completely ridiculous. Even the way they speak to the players. They demand sportsmanship yet talk to them like s#]t. Nothing will change unless we force the change!!! I challenge anyone to go to MSG Varsity Interactive ch614 and watch playoff games from this year and last. The amount of bad calls and non calls is staggering. Anyone else performing their job this way WOULD BE FIRED! Why not the same standard....they do get paid after all.


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If you have not already done so please take the survey. Also feel free to post your experiences with officials.


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I'd say the officiating is random at best, and really bad at its worst. I've got a defender so I'd really like to see dangerous shots get called before she gets hit. My kid once took a stick to the head, requiring stitches, but there was no foul because the ref didn't see it happen.

There is also the sense that LI refs call things differently than in MD, NJ, PA or VA. Every state's refs seem to see things differently, you never know what you're going to get until you're in the midst of a game.

I think there should be a fitness test for the refs too (all sports), because some of them can't get up and down the field, so how on earth can they make responsible calls?

It's a thankless job, though. Those refs get yelled at from the first whistle to the last. I wouldn't want the job. I find the most yelling is when parents feel the reffing is one sided. If a ref is making mistakes but calling it badly for both sides, then it's a little easier to shrug off.

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I'd say the officiating is random at best, and really bad at its worst. I've got a defender so I'd really like to see dangerous shots get called before she gets hit. My kid once took a stick to the head, requiring stitches, but there was no foul because the ref didn't see it happen.

There is also the sense that LI refs call things differently than in MD, NJ, PA or VA. Every state's refs seem to see things differently, you never know what you're going to get until you're in the midst of a game.

I think there should be a fitness test for the refs too (all sports), because some of them can't get up and down the field, so how on earth can they make responsible calls?

It's a thankless job, though. Those refs get yelled at from the first whistle to the last. I wouldn't want the job. I find the most yelling is when parents feel the reffing is one sided. If a ref is making mistakes but calling it badly for both sides, then it's a little easier to shrug off.


I would also add that there are officials that have been fired as coaches due to their behavior in the past only to find a home as an official. Mind blowing really....and still no outrage?!?

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I'd say the officiating is random at best, and really bad at its worst. I've got a defender so I'd really like to see dangerous shots get called before she gets hit. My kid once took a stick to the head, requiring stitches, but there was no foul because the ref didn't see it happen.

There is also the sense that LI refs call things differently than in MD, NJ, PA or VA. Every state's refs seem to see things differently, you never know what you're going to get until you're in the midst of a game.

I think there should be a fitness test for the refs too (all sports), because some of them can't get up and down the field, so how on earth can they make responsible calls?

It's a thankless job, though. Those refs get yelled at from the first whistle to the last. I wouldn't want the job. I find the most yelling is when parents feel the reffing is one sided. If a ref is making mistakes but calling it badly for both sides, then it's a little easier to shrug off.


I would also add that there are officials that have been fired as coaches due to their behavior in the past only to find a home as an official. Mind blowing really....and still no outrage?!?

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Simply not enough ref's, that's a big part of the problem. Step up, be part of the solution.

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I voted two days ago and posted but it never made the board?

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Poll results so far.

66% bad
34% good

Very telling. How many of the good votes were from refs!

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I voted two days ago and posted but it never made the board?


Thanks for participating! I don't have control over the issues you are having. The moderator does however if you dont mind reposting your thoughts that would be great.


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I voted two days ago and posted but it never made the board?


Thanks for participating! I don't have control over the issues you are having. The moderator does however if you dont mind reposting your thoughts that would be great.
Nothing from this discussion thread has been removed - please repost your thoughts on this topic.

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Poll results so far.

66% bad
34% good

Very telling. How many of the good votes were from refs!


Does anyone have any information on the system used for selecting and certifying officials in Suffolk and Nassau county for girls lax?

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All of them

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there is none, cant you tell.

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there is none, cant you tell.


I think it's amazing that apparently there is no oversight to speak of. These officials are entrusted with protecting our girls by controlling the game. For example calling dangerous shots, pushes and shooting space/obstruction correctly. All this talk about helmets garner massive headlines and news stories yet helmets don't impact the safety of a girls player as much as a properly officiated game does and officials are an after thought it seems with little or no oversight and evaluation. Any Thoughts?

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there is none, cant you tell.


I think it's amazing that apparently there is no oversight to speak of. These officials are entrusted with protecting our girls by controlling the game. For example calling dangerous shots, pushes and shooting space/obstruction correctly. All this talk about helmets garner massive headlines and news stories yet helmets don't impact the safety of a girls player as much as a properly officiated game does and officials are an after thought it seems with little or no oversight and evaluation. Any Thoughts?

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