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Trying to get a sense of summer showcases and prospect days. Anyone have thoughts /experience with TPS (The Player Series) June in Tinton Falls or the Elite 100 in July in Boston?

Complete money grabs


Why do you feel that these are money grabs. Any info would help. Thanks in advance

Coaches names are on the list and then they don't show up. Coaches are standing around not evaluating kids. Coaches get paid and they need the income to supplement their salary, therefore these big showcases are not great recruiting events.

Would have to agree with this. Juniors Open, Showtime and Main Stage are the best place to get looks. Coaches will spend most time watching the 24's during club season.

How about the Jim Stagnitta Showcase? Spotlight Lax....it seems he has a good amount of the higher end colleges going to it, I am assuming because he knows the older guys a little bit better.

One of the kids on our 23 team went last summer. He said there were a lot a of coaches there both heads and assistants, and if they saw a player they liked they def created dialogue with that player. He committed to a D1 school that was not at this showcase though.

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The Show 2024 is actually pretty loaded, well the Fall was. I am assuming the Summer will be too because its run by MADLAX.

Rumor is there are a lot of kids signed up for this already. Its also the 1st Showcase of the Summer so it should be loaded with college staff as they will be in full scouting mode.

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Top Showcases for 2024 (No Order)

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Top Showcases for 2024 (No Order)

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Add Juniors Open and Main Stage and its a good list.

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Top Showcases for 2024 (No Order)

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One Percent

As someone who just went through this and has a son (2023) committed to the Patriot League I have to say Juniors started everything for my son because it was the first and so well run. It was the first event that I ever attended where only one game at a time was being played and EVERY D1 coach was there and basically all HEAD COACHES not assistants to the assistants. They were all watching one game at a time and I thought that was huge. Also bc it was first the coaches were excited to watch HS lacrosse and they were all socializing with each other. This waned as the summer went on and you can see and feel it on the sidelines. After a few weeks the coaches want to get home and are less interested and start to move from field to field - again something that Juniors didn't have. My son went to Main Stage/Five Star/One Percent/Lax Nationals as well. Did not go to Showtime bc it was the day after Juniors. I could see that after Juniors there were some coaches that were watching my son at different events bc of Juniors. They would specifically come to some of his tourney games (not showcases) and this was aided by letters to the coaches telling the coach what events my son was going to. He sent all the letters and gave details as to fields etc... Didn't really feel Five Star or One Percent moved the needle at all and not one coach reached out saying they saw him at that event but they did for Main Stag/Juniors and Lax Nationals. I don't know anything about The Show or Exposure (new events?). The one thing I will say is that at one of the events Gerry Byrne (coach at Harvard) spoke and he along with a cpl of other coaches said that their favorite events are the ones that the boys play with their high school teams (NHSLS/GEICO etc . . ) and that they value those above all others. They said it was the best lacrosse and that there was less ball hogging and hero ball and much better lacrosse to watch. Hope this helps for what its worth.

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The Problem with Juniors Open this year is that The Great 8 (or I guess the Great 10 now since 10 teams are playing this year for 2024) are on the same dates. It is also right before Showtime. If coaches want to see players at a team tourney, there is no better tourney than the Great 8. It was the most loaded tourney with coaches that my son played at last year.

With the top 10 teams in the country playing at Great 8, there is no need to go to Jrs.

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Disagree. Juniors is the best showcase out there. Best players and how it’s run. MainStage ok and showtime watered down. For team stuff they still have NAL, NLF, Crabfeast and Naptown and some other big ones and they can see all the top teams and there are no major showcases going on during those dates.

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The Problem with Juniors Open this year is that The Great 8 (or I guess the Great 10 now since 10 teams are playing this year for 2024) are on the same dates. It is also right before Showtime. If coaches want to see players at a team tourney, there is no better tourney than the Great 8. It was the most loaded tourney with coaches that my son played at last year.

With the top 10 teams in the country playing at Great 8, there is no need to go to Jrs.

We were at great 8 and in terms of coaches showing up and watching it doesn’t compare to juniors. Great 8 had multiple games at the same time so not all coaches watching one field and bc not all great players (yes all good teams) the depth is no. I will say great 8 was an excellent event but at no time were 70 so coaches watching one game. Also in terms of loaded tourneys Naptown was better attended. Lastly the NHSLS had more coaches as well. Was at all of the above events. Again, great 8 is a very good event but not elite yet.

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Boys Recruiting Thoughts and Help for the Masses

I posted this in the “Boys High School Lacrosse” forum but I am posting this in the 23’s, 24’s, 25s. since they will be affected most by recruiting just to try and generate more conversation as I am curious to other's thoughts

I apologize ahead of time as this is a VERY VERY long post so I left a[b] TL;DR summary[/b] at the top. There are also likely errors in this so I welcome any corrections. I also suspect these thoughts may hold true for the girl’s game but I don’t know anything about girl’s recruiting. Yes, I have too much time on my hands now the kids have moved on.

I am posting this as anonymous – I’m not notIntelligent (haha). This may generate a lot of thoughts, positive or negative but the point is to get a discussion going because I find there is very little actual recruiting help on these forums. I am sure many of the replies will be “bitter parent” “Ok Rebel Parent” or “team91 parent” or “Stunad” or “legacy dad” or “your kid graduated, why are you still on these forums you creeper”, etc. This is just one person’s opinion as someone who has gone through it (kid was a middie, on-age who ended up in a good D3 school) but had some D1 looks / offers so maybe this can be used to help others (or maybe I’m a coach……..). If you feel the need to comment, try to post something constructive. If you don’t like the post; scroll on by.

You may agree with 0%, 50% or 90% of it. It is important to note that these are just generalizations on a Bell Curve; there are always exceptions to the rules: there are some who got recruited way above their pay class and there also talented people who fell far in recruitment. This should apply to most but there are definitely outliers where people have forged their own paths. Tell us your stories!

For those whom this is TL;DR

1) Talent and connections trump everything, which leads into…
2) … being realistic about your kid’s ability as many parents cannot be “objective”
3) Be cognizant of how much you are projecting your own hopes and dreams onto your kid – don’t be that parent.
4) Some of you feel like you are running on a “Hamster Wheel” when it comes to recruiting. Find out what “Hamster Wheel” you want to be on – don’t be afraid to change wheels midstream
5) Have “fun” – but to be perfectly honest, if you are at the level where you are hoping to be recruited, I am not going to sit here and say having fun is the only thing that matters because that is BS. That being said, having fun is still important whether it be lacrosse, long road trips with your kids, having a meal with them, visiting colleges – all are fun.
6) Whatever college or trade school you kid ends up in, it will be perfectly OK in the end
7) Don’t believe what everyone tells you (including me). What may have worked for someone else may not work for you as I can guarantee you kid is so very different from everyone else.
8) Lacrosse is finite – don’t make short term decisions with long term consequences. It is Ok to sacrifice saying “my kid got into a low D1 school with poor academics” just for the sake of being D1. It will be better in the long run to apply to a better academic D1 school that has club, the MCLA’s or better academic D3 schools

Soooo, moving on these are the factors that I think of importance (from most to least) to get recruited:

1) Talent – trumps all – if your kid is already a superstar, most of this does not apply to you. If he/she don’t have as much talent, try to be realistic about their high level D1 / D3 dreams. Be very realistic about how your own child grades out. You may think they are superstar but if they haven’t competed on the national stage where the competition is the best, you cannot really know how good your kid is, even if everyone tells you they are the best. Be as objective as possible; rate your kid on a 100 point scale. Most players who are 93+ have a decent chance at a high D1/D3 school. Anything below that, it is going to be more difficult to get into the top schools and don’t punch way above you kid’s weight class when it comes to recruiting as it will lead to disappointment. However, there really is a lock for every key and if your kid really wants to play lacrosse, there are 400+ schools out there to play at. If you don’t have connections or talent, you will have to market the garbage out of yourself – go to showcases, prospect days, make good videos, email (the appropriate amount), sign up for recruiting services. But honestly, most of those all have minimal impact unless you have the connections but it’s all you got at that point.
2) Connections (High / Prep School or Club) – my kid went to several prospect days for schools as well as sent several emails to schools and he never heard a peep from any of them until a coach reached out on his behalf. I truly believe that this is the most important beyond talent. Coaches at all levels are getting hundreds of videos and thousands of email. They simply do not have the time to review them all or even open them. Having a coach call or email, allows you to jump to the top of the food chain (think Chutes and Ladders).
3) Grades – how could I leave this out in the original post! If you don’t have the grades, you aren’t getting into an elite school. Sports will help somewhat but you do have to have some sort of baseline decent grades.
4) Your kid’s High School prestige – there is line somewhere that separates the elite schools for lacrosse from the run-of-the-mill lacrosse high schools. If you are below that line, unless there is an individual connection, your chances of an elite D1/D3 school are slim to none without that connection. That being said, your high school play is still very important for recruiting for the other D1/D2/D3 schools because it is your high school coach that knows you best.
5) Your kid’s Club – same facts hold true as it does (#3) high school. I often get asked what club team should I chose. Do not balk at driving distance as a barrier. Sometimes you will have to drive far to get to a better club. To be honest, I would choose the best, highest ranked club because they play in the best tournaments (NAL, NLF, Crabfeast and Naptown, Great8) and try and get on their A squad at as young an age as possible. That way the club knows your child over time and will go to bat for you eventually. In addition, if you don’t make the top team, it gives you a chance to: work your way up to the A team or look for another club that may suit you better. That brings up the topic of A vs B. In reality, most B teams are not sending players to top D1/D3 schools (some are but that is not the norm). If being at a top lax school is not your goal then A vs B doesn’t matter as much because plenty of B players play college lacrosse. My kid was on a team that did not think much about his game. He was at a small local club and so he made the jump to a national club. He started on their C team and worked his way up to started on the top team so it is possible. Finally, understand these clubs are in the MONEY MAKING business as most are for-profit. They will sell you a bridge to nowhere as long as they get your tuition checks. Here is how I break them down:
a. Some are outright frauds. They don’t care and they just want your money
b. Some put together some half -hearted attempts at recruiting – they go through the motions but are not really making phone calls on your kids behalf
c. Others really only promote their best players. These are also fraudulent as they put all their time and effort into marketing their best players only, while the rest remain tution check to support those best players.
d. Finally, there are some truly excellent programs who will do their best to place a kid anywhere whether it be the best D1 program to the worst D3 program.
e. I would be remiss if I didn’t mention National teams and National tournaments – on paper, it is a very good idea but part of me says there is a money grab aspect. You can even see multiple clubs joining together to make national team (eg CLCA). I think it is the next evolution and I would not be surprised if National tournaments become the norm with local tournaments still existing but becoming second fiddle.
Coaches will tell you they will help you with recruiting but the reality is they do not want to put their name out there to back you if there is a lacrosse:talent mismatch. So if your Johnny rates as an 80, don’t ask your coach to get you into Syracuse because they won’t do it. It is a shame that some clubs promise you the world but don’t help you even though are paying $2000-4000 for your club; for them to not help you is just fraudulent. How to tell if a club is real or not? Look at their website. A good one would post a list of ALL their commits, not just the ones who get into top D1 schools which usually means they had a favorite player. Look at their social media. Are all of their posts only about 1-5 of their top kids? Finally, word of mouth – talk to the older kids and kids who have moved through the program; not the superstars but the average ones who had college lax dreams.
6) Prospect Days – this is the best way to get in front of a school on an individual basis. However, many of these are pure money grabs. We have been to several where no one was filming, coaches had no paper or they were not writing anything down. Clearly no evaluation was going on. It does allow you to get in front of the coaches and look at the campus. But I am somewhat cynical because if you were not already on their radar, a coach didn’t send you, or you were not invited, it is unlikely to be helpful.
7) Showcases- There are so many showcases out there. Many of them are money grabs and really garbage showcases. How do you know what is a good showcase? I wish I knew the answer to that but I can say that if the showcase has a good list of head coaches then it is going to be pretty good. If the communication is pretty good, then that is also a good sign. I will throw it out there and say good ones are Showtime, The Players Series, Spotlight, ECD, Lacrosse Masters, Main Stage, NXT Fall, The Show, Juniors Open, Main Stage. Then there are the average showcases (3D, adrenaline, my lacrosse tournaments, Elite 100, Elite 180, GFW, Q4, Victory, Maryland Showcase). UA and National All Star Games are very good but very political. 1%, FiveStar and Apex are very heavily marketed but have found them to be more glitz than substance. What is important to know is nobody is going to be “discovered” at most of these so do not think your kid is going to show up and “kill it” and get recruited by Duke. Coaches usually have a list of players they are there to see and if the kid does well, then they reach out. Finally, no one cares about wins and losses at showcase so don’t be that parent.
8) Recruiting video – coaches are getting hundreds of video so they may never even open your video or emails. That being said, video is still 100% necessary in this day and age of recruiting. If they do open it, you want your intro to be brief and you want to front load your 5-star highlights. Some say don’t use music; my feeling is they can always mute it. Try to film your own video even though it is a pain in the arse. Much of the paid tournament videos offered are expensive and very poor quality. It is a pain in the butt to film your own highlight video but you will have a much higher quality video that is zoomed in appropriately. Iphone and imovie work perfectly fine or invest in a cheap HD camcorder. Some of the biggest mistakes I’ve seen: inappropriate offensive music, not zooming in on your child, including highlights that aren’t highlights, not highlighting /circling your player in the video (you know your kid so it’s easy to pick out for you but most coaches, it’s pretty hard to pick up to the player in that 4 second clip). Some say, don’t make it longer than 2 minutes; my feeling is most coaches aren’t watching past 1 minute (if they open it) and if you give a 6 minute highlight video they can always just shut it off.
9) Position – kids are specializing more and more (SSDM, FOGO, LSM and goalies). If you are really good at your position, you stand a very good chance. If you are mediocre, you better show that you can do other things. At the Prospect Days, I have noticed more and more defenders and less middies which stinks for defense, that stinks because I think that is also the hardest position to get recruited at. Goalies always fill first so get in early. If you are not looking high level, none of this is as important
10) Recruiting profiles (NCSA, SportsRecruit, ConnectLax, CaptainU) – these are likely only helpful for the mid-lower Tier D1, D2, D3 schools. The top schools will not or do not use these services – they do everything through connections.

Additional comments, myths and facts?

1. I am assuming that most people “try to punch up” with their recruiting (ie they will try and overachieve with their lacrosse ambitions) so be patient, be realistic and don’t be disappointed. There is a “lock for every key” as there are over 400 lacrosse colleges. If you really want to play lacrosse, you will find a school.
2. Re-class – there is so much detest on this forum about re-classed players. Unfortunately, it is here to stay until colleges and clubs change their mind (USA Lacrosse has zero ability or desire to change this). Colleges and clubs don’t want to change because they want the most mature and physically gifted players so they could care less that your kid is on-age. Some kids re-class for legit reasons (maturity, academics). But some also re-class to try and get into a better school. IMHO, re-classing is destroying the sport but it’s here to stay. It is completely unfair but totally within the rules. Why on earth would someone re-class for lacrosse reasons only is beyond me. I can’t imagine how dominant my kid would have been if he was going against kids 1 -3 years younger.
3. Lacrosse players are not getting a full scholarship: Full scholarships are uncommon and most will only get a very small amount of money
4. Lacrosse is finite: I think lacrosse carries on forever whether it be a playing in beer league, coaching, raising your own kid, etc. But in terms of a career, very few people go on to make a living out of playing lacrosse. Lacrosse has a finite end and for some it ends after high school; some after college. Don’t make short term decision with long term consequences
5. Commit vs Preferred-Walk-on vs Walk-on – I know very little about this. All I can say is that if you are a preferred walk-on you are on the team but you don’t always travel. If you tryout and walk-on (not preferred), there are generally very little chances or spots at the high collegiate level but probably plenty at the lower caliber schools
6. Prep vs Private vs Catholic – depends what part of the country you live. Not all preps are lacrosse powerhouses nor are all catholic schools. There are a few public schools that carry a lot of weight but chances are your high school does not; you will know
7. PG – from what I have been told, do not PG unless it is arranged ahead of time with a college who specifically said you should PG. There are plenty of PG’s who PG but do so without a college talking to them. There are even PG schools out there. They still eventually get into lacrosse schools but it usually is not a step up to playing for Duke / Virginia / Syracuse / Yale etc. That being said, some need to PG for academic and maturity reasons.
8. How often should I email a coach – I believe coaches are getting hundreds of emails. Chances are, they are not going to read or even open your email (at least at the high D1 or high D3 level). That being said – maybe once a month and always have some sort of update whether it being lacrosse or academic.
9. Don’t be that lacrosse dad or mom. Honestly, be quiet. Don’t coach your son on the field. Don’t yell “wheels” “ward” “offsides” and ride the refs. Coaches do actually notice this. They don’t care so much at the collegiate level because they can limit the parent’s sphere of influence but somewhere in the back of their mind, they are wondering if the apple doesn’t fall from the tree when they are recruiting. No one cares that you were once a superstar or failed athlete. Everyone can see you are projecting who you once were or wanted to be onto your child
10. The Grass is Not Always Greener (See Clubs above) – it’s OK to be a club hopper – we jumped clubs and it worked out for the better but it doesn’t always. Just make sure you are doing it because there are faults with the club and not faults with you or your kid. Most parents cannot tell the difference sadly. If you do go club hopping, make sure you latch on to one before high school because making the change after high school is very difficult
11. The New England region and Long Island used to be center of the lacrosse universe. That is no longer the case. I believe it is currently the MidAtlantic (re-class) but areas such as the South (Fl, GA, TX), Midwest (Il, MI) and West (CA, CO) are producing amazing players along with New England and LI still being very good
12. D1 vs D2 vs D3
a. D1 – I think a lot of kids can play D1 as there are some D1 schools that are not as competitive out there and would be happy to take all sorts of talent. The only thing I would advise is don’t go D1 for the sake of going D1. D1 is also a full time job so they have to juggle academics with their lacrosse.
b. D2 – they do offer scholarships. Some are great schools and great lacrosse programs but academically I have found they are not as good as some of the D1 and D3 schools
c. D3 – I do not believe they offer sport scholarships but will offer other scholarships. Even though D1 is a full time job, D3 is also very busy especially in the spring. The main difference is the 20 hours in the fall that D1 has that D3 does not but D3 still practices in the fall. D3 probably has the largest cohort of schools from incredibly competitive to very mediocre.
d. MCLA – do not overlook these schools. Some are top academic institutions (Stanford, Rice, GaTech, etc)
e. Club lacrosse – also do not overlook this. Totally OK.

Timeline – don’t get sad if all your friends commit on 9/1 of their junior year. D3 doesn’t make offers until later and sometimes D1 makes commitments as late as December of your senior year. Patience, young grasshopper.
1) D1 - You cannot be contacted by anyone for recruiting until September 1 of your junior year. That being said, they can reach out to you with camps and prospect days but not personally. Now obviously kids who verbally commit on 9/1 must have had some contacts with the colleges but most of it is through high school / clubs
2) D2 – June 15 after the sophomore year
3) D3 – I believe they can talk at any time but some of the NESCACs adopt D1 rules. D3 offers do not go out until June (or July?) 1 after their junior year

Choosing a school: it will be a multitude of factors but this is what I think plays into it (in no order)

1) Academics – imho, don’t sacrifice this for lacrosse, but that being said, you will probably be fine at any school depending on what you make out of it
2) D1 vs D2 vs D3 – similar to above – don’t get caught up on the D1 Hamster Wheel – plenty of good options out there
3) Starter vs bench – some kids just want to be part of a process; some need to be the superstar. Find out where your kid is and if you are realistic, it may open doors and don’t shoot for the stars, it may open up a lot of schools.
4) Conference they play in and level of competition
5) Money – it matters. There are some very rich people on these forums who don’t realize that. That being said, most are not getting full sports scholarships.
6) Coaches and their coaching philosophy – this has to be the right fit
7) Lacrosse is finite – don’t choose a school because of a lacrosse

Well I am sure I left a lot out. Let the detest begin (haha). But seriously, try and help out your fellow lax members with something constructive. Everyone enjoy the ride though. It was great for me, my wife and all our kids.

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Top Showcases for 2024 (No Order)

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Add Juniors Open and Main Stage and its a good list.

Good answers all....and without negativity...wish it was like this all the time.

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The Problem with Juniors Open this year is that The Great 8 (or I guess the Great 10 now since 10 teams are playing this year for 2024) are on the same dates. It is also right before Showtime. If coaches want to see players at a team tourney, there is no better tourney than the Great 8. It was the most loaded tourney with coaches that my son played at last year.

With the top 10 teams in the country playing at Great 8, there is no need to go to Jrs.

We were at great 8 and in terms of coaches showing up and watching it doesn’t compare to juniors. Great 8 had multiple games at the same time so not all coaches watching one field and bc not all great players (yes all good teams) the depth is no. I will say great 8 was an excellent event but at no time were 70 so coaches watching one game. Also in terms of loaded tourneys Naptown was better attended. Lastly the NHSLS had more coaches as well. Was at all of the above events. Again, great 8 is a very good event but not elite yet.

So there are usually at least 4 coaches for every college team. They basically only send one to each event, sometimes two. So lets say Penn State. They can be at 4 different tournaments at once. The big post the dude just put up is really accurate. Just get to some and play and find your fit. Colleges will be at all of them.

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Top Showcases for 2024 (No Order)

The Show
Showtime
Blackcard
Five Star
Exposure
One Percent

Add Juniors Open and Main Stage and its a good list.

Good answers all....and without negativity...wish it was like this all the time.

Best In Class.

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Problem with juniors open is it starts on a friday - when kids have classes still. Every kid wants to be in Best in Class - unsure what the exposure is really like though.

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Agreed, Best in Class has been hands down the best event my son attended. Deemer Class got everything right with that showcase.

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Problem with juniors open is it starts on a friday - when kids have classes still. Every kid wants to be in Best in Class - unsure what the exposure is really like though.

Son went to best in class and its a good event and maybe will grow but in terms of coaches present it doesn't compare to the others. There were a good 30 plus coaches there but thats it.

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Anyone have feedback about the Nike Long Island All Star Team tryouts? How political is it ( if at all )? Do any kids who don’t play for LIE or Legacy ever get picked?

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Very political. TZ and JA will load their team with taz and 91 players with some that belong and others definitely not. Will have a couple of express kids sprinkled in and that’s it. Same with under armor. TZ has his hands in everything for this grade and can’t blame him but he looks out for his own kids for sure, no doubt.

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This is a moot point, if you don’t have an invite already to Juniors you are not getting one.

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Disagree. Juniors is the best showcase out there. Best players and how it’s run. MainStage ok and showtime watered down. For team stuff they still have NAL, NLF, Crabfeast and Naptown and some other big ones and they can see all the top teams and there are no major showcases going on during those dates.

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This is a moot point, if you don’t have an invite already to Juniors you are not getting one.

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Disagree. Juniors is the best showcase out there. Best players and how it’s run. MainStage ok and showtime watered down. For team stuff they still have NAL, NLF, Crabfeast and Naptown and some other big ones and they can see all the top teams and there are no major showcases going on during those dates.
Juniors could be well run but it is a scam to charge an evaluation fee and never receive any feedback or acknowledgement. They should at least say thank you for the inquiry. Dirty business run by some very dirty people. Juniors raising the bar on the db side.

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Been through it all with 2 boys. 3rd one is up. Playing the summer season with their team is the best exposure to have in their recruiting year...Showcases are a waste of time and $. It draws only the kids that don't pass the ball and play the game the wrong way. Coached see this very clearly. How do I know? My middle boy was that kid in the 2021 class, and it almost ruined his chances. Switched gears and it worked out for him by playing with his own team. Do as you wish but I've been there twice

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Been through it all with 2 boys. 3rd one is up. Playing the summer season with their team is the best exposure to have in their recruiting year...Showcases are a waste of time and $. It draws only the kids that don't pass the ball and play the game the wrong way. Coached see this very clearly. How do I know? My middle boy was that kid in the 2021 class, and it almost ruined his chances. Switched gears and it worked out for him by playing with his own team. Do as you wish but I've been there twice

Very insightful. Thanks. I feel like showcases can get you noticed but FOGOS and Goalies benefit the most from them.

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Been through it all with 2 boys. 3rd one is up. Playing the summer season with their team is the best exposure to have in their recruiting year...Showcases are a waste of time and $. It draws only the kids that don't pass the ball and play the game the wrong way. Coached see this very clearly. How do I know? My middle boy was that kid in the 2021 class, and it almost ruined his chances. Switched gears and it worked out for him by playing with his own team. Do as you wish but I've been there twice

Very insightful. Thanks. I feel like showcases can get you noticed but FOGOS and Goalies benefit the most from them.

I had a completely different experience with showcases, My 2022 got recruited because of a individual showcase. The one thing I learned is that everyone has a different experience. No 2 paths are the same. All the showcases listed above are good if the schools you are targeting are at them. We identified 10 schools that fit our son academically, socially, and were good fits for Lax. Then he filled out the recruiting questionnaire on those schools websites. He then followed up with emails and film. Finally we hit 2 showcases that had most of the schools on his list. This worked for him, it may not work for everyone.

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Been through it all with 2 boys. 3rd one is up. Playing the summer season with their team is the best exposure to have in their recruiting year...Showcases are a waste of time and $. It draws only the kids that don't pass the ball and play the game the wrong way. Coached see this very clearly. How do I know? My middle boy was that kid in the 2021 class, and it almost ruined his chances. Switched gears and it worked out for him by playing with his own team. Do as you wish but I've been there twice

Very insightful. Thanks. I feel like showcases can get you noticed but FOGOS and Goalies benefit the most from them.

I had a completely different experience with showcases, My 2022 got recruited because of a individual showcase. The one thing I learned is that everyone has a different experience. No 2 paths are the same. All the showcases listed above are good if the schools you are targeting are at them. We identified 10 schools that fit our son academically, socially, and were good fits for Lax. Then he filled out the recruiting questionnaire on those schools websites. He then followed up with emails and film. Finally we hit 2 showcases that had most of the schools on his list. This worked for him, it may not work for everyone.

^^^That is great advice! Sounds like a great and straightforward way to go about it and very well said. Good luck to everyone!

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Been through it all with 2 boys. 3rd one is up. Playing the summer season with their team is the best exposure to have in their recruiting year...Showcases are a waste of time and $. It draws only the kids that don't pass the ball and play the game the wrong way. Coached see this very clearly. How do I know? My middle boy was that kid in the 2021 class, and it almost ruined his chances. Switched gears and it worked out for him by playing with his own team. Do as you wish but I've been there twice

Very insightful. Thanks. I feel like showcases can get you noticed but FOGOS and Goalies benefit the most from them.

I had a completely different experience with showcases, My 2022 got recruited because of a individual showcase. The one thing I learned is that everyone has a different experience. No 2 paths are the same. All the showcases listed above are good if the schools you are targeting are at them. We identified 10 schools that fit our son academically, socially, and were good fits for Lax. Then he filled out the recruiting questionnaire on those schools websites. He then followed up with emails and film. Finally we hit 2 showcases that had most of the schools on his list. This worked for him, it may not work for everyone.

^^^That is great advice! Sounds like a great and straightforward way to go about it and very well said. Good luck to everyone!

Both takes are helpful....the problem my sons club is having is that basically every player only plays about a half a game each game so we are doing some showcases to just get on the field a little more.... thanks guys for the insight.

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Trying to get a sense of summer showcases and prospect days. Anyone have thoughts /experience with TPS (The Player Series) June in Tinton Falls or the Elite 100 in July in Boston?

Complete money grabs


Why do you feel that these are money grabs. Any info would help. Thanks in advance

If your son is a high classroom kid consider Lacrosse Masters. The coaches there are head coaches from top academic schools and they coach the kids - don’t just watch with clipboards. They really get a sense if a kid is Coachable and fits their style. Not invite only like the big name events but great access to the coaches and exposure for the kids that can play.

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Top Showcases for 2024 (No Order)

The Show
Showtime
Blackcard
Five Star
Exposure
One Percent

The show in fall had top 75 players in the class but coach turnout was horrible - 2 coaches per team no other coaches evaluating - none of the coaches were head coaches.
Showtime - godfather of showcases
Black card s horrible - NXT is better
FiveStar - like the show had best players in the class hands down. Everyone invited was supposed to be there - no scrubs
Never heard of exposure
One percent is always good - NLF and NAL heavy event. It is during NAPTOWN this year I’d be a little worried who would not show because of that.

Juniors Open and MainStage should be on this lis
Best in class should be too.

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Top Showcases for 2024 (No Order)

The Show
Showtime
Blackcard
Five Star
Exposure
One Percent

The show in fall had top 75 players in the class but coach turnout was horrible - 2 coaches per team no other coaches evaluating - none of the coaches were head coaches.
Showtime - godfather of showcases
Black card s horrible - NXT is better
FiveStar - like the show had best players in the class hands down. Everyone invited was supposed to be there - no scrubs
Never heard of exposure
One percent is always good - NLF and NAL heavy event. It is during NAPTOWN this year I’d be a little worried who would not show because of that.

Juniors Open and MainStage should be on this lis
Best in class should be too.

Thank you for the insightful and helpful post! The best information comes from people who have experienced these first hand. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

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Top Showcases for 2024 (No Order)

The Show
Showtime
Blackcard
Five Star
Exposure
One Percent

The show in fall had top 75 players in the class but coach turnout was horrible - 2 coaches per team no other coaches evaluating - none of the coaches were head coaches.
Showtime - godfather of showcases
Black card s horrible - NXT is better
FiveStar - like the show had best players in the class hands down. Everyone invited was supposed to be there - no scrubs
Never heard of exposure
One percent is always good - NLF and NAL heavy event. It is during NAPTOWN this year I’d be a little worried who would not show because of that.

Juniors Open and MainStage should be on this lis
Best in class should be too.

Thank you for the insightful and helpful post! The best information comes from people who have experienced these first hand. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

The Show was basically a first year event and it was in the Fall. It is the first showcase of the summer and should have coaches there.
Showtime will have all the colleges there without question.
Blackcard is okay, but low turnout.
NXT will have coaches.
Five Star and Best in Class have the top of the top and every kid there will be recruited 1st wave on September 1st...invite only...these are the high profile kids each club director markets and wants to be able to say they committed early in September to a top 20 college. There are 600 other roster spots in D1 lax...go for them if your not Top Gun.
One Percent is usually good but Naptown will have a lot of college coaches there.
And I agree, Juniors Open, MainStage should be on here as well as Jim Stagnitta's thing and the Iron 44 Combine.

Hope it helps.

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Top Showcases for 2024 (No Order)

The Show
Showtime
Blackcard
Five Star
Exposure
One Percent

The show in fall had top 75 players in the class but coach turnout was horrible - 2 coaches per team no other coaches evaluating - none of the coaches were head coaches.
Showtime - godfather of showcases
Black card s horrible - NXT is better
FiveStar - like the show had best players in the class hands down. Everyone invited was supposed to be there - no scrubs
Never heard of exposure
One percent is always good - NLF and NAL heavy event. It is during NAPTOWN this year I’d be a little worried who would not show because of that.

Juniors Open and MainStage should be on this lis
Best in class should be too.
Your assessment of the above showcases is very good but you didn't mention that it is extremely difficult to get invited to them unless your son is an absolute stud in which case it will not matter. For the other 95% you should consider Future Phenoms which is hands down the best "non invite only" showcase as it has hands on coaching and a sideline full of coaches when they are not directly coaching a team. Lacrosse Masters is also very good. My experience, having two kids go through the process is that tournaments with the club team are the best (assuming good tournaments) as nobody trusts a player more than they guys he has been playing. Then comes multi-day showcases as it is difficult for players to be selfish if they are going to be around other players for more than a few games. Then comes individual college prospect days as that is the best way for a specific coach to see you but make sure your club coaches tell them you will be there. Good luck to all of you.

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I think the issue with Five Star over the summer is it lands on the same day as the LI showdown so all the top LI teams will be there. Zummo does a good job getting college coaches to attend his event.

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We attended Future Phenoms last summer and while its a camp it had solid talent , some top D1, mid D1, low D1, D2 and D3 type players, not great talent but plenty of coaches and my son did get to know some of them fairly well. More face to face and not just play 3 games and go home. Also no AS game so no politics.

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Does anyone have the website or email address of the guy on the Island that logs into your personal HUDL and makes highlight reels? I am trying to get a highlight reel made.

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I surprised more 2024 teams didn’t go get run today at NYLA. So many coaches were there. Why not just go play three games locally.

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I surprised more 2024 teams didn’t go get run today at NYLA. So many coaches were there. Why not just go play three games locally.


NYLA was always a good event, my older son had played it a few times. Always had a good list of coaches from all divisions.

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I was at the event. The coaches only watched the 23’s

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I was at the event. The coaches only watched the 23’s

That is not true. Yes, more coaches watched the 2023s, but plenty of coaches watched the 2024s. And if high level 2024s played, my guess is there would be a lot watching that. And my point is, why would teams from LI not just go play three games.

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I surprised more 2024 teams didn’t go get run today at NYLA. So many coaches were there. Why not just go play three games locally.


NYLA was always a good event, my older son had played it a few times. Always had a good list of coaches from all divisions.
B or C tournament at the 24 age groups. No different than any other mylaxthing you can do anytime.

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I surprised more 2024 teams didn’t go get run today at NYLA. So many coaches were there. Why not just go play three games locally.


NYLA was always a good event, my older son had played it a few times. Always had a good list of coaches from all divisions.
B or C tournament at the 24 age groups. No different than any other mylaxthing you can do anytime.

Not a tourney. It’s a showcase. They don’t keep score. And there were over 100 coaches there, including many D1 schools. So no, you can’t do this anytime. And the point was.. why not attend? Especially since many of this group is going to realize how hard it is to commit with the growth of the game and 5th year guys taking roster spots.. It was a great opportunity to get a look.

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I surprised more 2024 teams didn’t go get run today at NYLA. So many coaches were there. Why not just go play three games locally.


NYLA was always a good event, my older son had played it a few times. Always had a good list of coaches from all divisions.
B or C tournament at the 24 age groups. No different than any other mylaxthing you can do anytime.

Not a tourney. It’s a showcase. They don’t keep score. And there were over 100 coaches there, including many D1 schools. So no, you can’t do this anytime. And the point was.. why not attend? Especially since many of this group is going to realize how hard it is to commit with the growth of the game and 5th year guys taking roster spots.. It was a great opportunity to get a look.


The event was always a good event pre Covid. Great mix of coaches from D1- D2- D3. The event was canceled 2 years ago because of Covid. Last year they had to move the event to later in July it was also mid week. They did not get a lot of D1 coaches last year. I think that with the surplus of showcases that now exist. Teams skipped it.

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I surprised more 2024 teams didn’t go get run today at NYLA. So many coaches were there. Why not just go play three games locally.


NYLA was always a good event, my older son had played it a few times. Always had a good list of coaches from all divisions.
B or C tournament at the 24 age groups. No different than any other mylaxthing you can do anytime.

Not a tourney. It’s a showcase. They don’t keep score. And there were over 100 coaches there, including many D1 schools. So no, you can’t do this anytime. And the point was.. why not attend? Especially since many of this group is going to realize how hard it is to commit with the growth of the game and 5th year guys taking roster spots.. It was a great opportunity to get a look.
Interesting, Explains the B or C level teams attending with kids not getting in to traditional showcases. Theres a home for everyone.

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