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Thoughts on Hoco alignment for 2030s?

Looks like the DC area teams have aggregated the top kids amongst BLC MadLax and Next Level. Any changes? Any other teams paying in Hoco? VLC?

Seems Annapolis talent was split between Hawks, Mesa & True with mediocre results in AAA. Is Mesa still around? If not are the kids now on Hawks or True?

In Baltimore many of the kids are staying with their Rec/Club programs. Crabs were bottom 3rd of AA. FCA and 91 2030 teams are new for this year. LTRC beat Kelly Post in championship. Hoco Blue Claws not far behind. Any of these teams move up? FCA a top upper level team? Guessing some of them were playing with their 29 team. Crabs get better?

Can't wait until spring.

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2030 AAA
1 Madlax Capital
2 Next Level
3 FCA
4 True Annapolis
5 Annapolis Hawks
6 Bethesda Blue
7 LTLC
8 Team 91

2030 AA
Wolfpack
Kelly Post Grey
Baltimore Swarm
Blue Claws
Crabs
HoCo
True Severna Park
VLC Cleary/Kilgannon
Sidewinders

2030 A
Madlax DMV
Zingos
Cannons Select
ALC Bay Raiders
Kelly Post Green
Bethesda Orange
Arden Diamondbacks
Ville
BAYS River Dawgs
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Originally Posted by Fred44
Thoughts on Hoco alignment for 2030s?

Looks like the DC area teams have aggregated the top kids amongst BLC MadLax and Next Level. Any changes? Any other teams paying in Hoco? VLC?

Seems Annapolis talent was split between Hawks, Mesa & True with mediocre results in AAA. Is Mesa still around? If not are the kids now on Hawks or True?

In Baltimore many of the kids are staying with their Rec/Club programs. Crabs were bottom 3rd of AA. FCA and 91 2030 teams are new for this year. LTRC beat Kelly Post in championship. Hoco Blue Claws not far behind. Any of these teams move up? FCA a top upper level team? Guessing some of them were playing with their 29 team. Crabs get better?

Can't wait until spring.

In Baltimore, if your kid is on a AA or AAA rec club squad (at this age) and they aren't having massive player/coach defections, there is no reason to leave. Cost is low and the teams bond well over the years. That said, LTLC is going to get hammered this year. Team 91 as well. The problems with rec clubs can be seen at LTLC....while the 2029 squad is fantastic (and keeps getting better), the 2028 squad just has not developed and is in the bottom 10% of MD clubs. That's why I say if your son is a 2030 or 2031 and the rec club team is already good, it will probably get better. Don't bail.

In Annapolis, Mesa is gone. The 2029s went (overall) to Koopers but unsure about the 2030s. Maybe that's "True Severna Park." On the other hand maybe True is just trying to position itself to buy out Diamondbacks and/or Sidewinders.

DC talent, in order, is Madlax, NL, BLC, and VLC. True DC could not get a roster together at 2030.....and barely has a roster at the older age groups.

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Thoughts on Hoco alignment for 2030s?

Looks like the DC area teams have aggregated the top kids amongst BLC MadLax and Next Level. Any changes? Any other teams paying in Hoco? VLC?

Seems Annapolis talent was split between Hawks, Mesa & True with mediocre results in AAA. Is Mesa still around? If not are the kids now on Hawks or True?

In Baltimore many of the kids are staying with their Rec/Club programs. Crabs were bottom 3rd of AA. FCA and 91 2030 teams are new for this year. LTRC beat Kelly Post in championship. Hoco Blue Claws not far behind. Any of these teams move up? FCA a top upper level team? Guessing some of them were playing with their 29 team. Crabs get better?

Can't wait until spring.

In Baltimore, if your kid is on a AA or AAA rec club squad (at this age) and they aren't having massive player/coach defections, there is no reason to leave. Cost is low and the teams bond well over the years. That said, LTLC is going to get hammered this year. Team 91 as well. The problems with rec clubs can be seen at LTLC....while the 2029 squad is fantastic (and keeps getting better), the 2028 squad just has not developed and is in the bottom 10% of MD clubs. That's why I say if your son is a 2030 or 2031 and the rec club team is already good, it will probably get better. Don't bail.

In Annapolis, Mesa is gone. The 2029s went (overall) to Koopers but unsure about the 2030s. Maybe that's "True Severna Park." On the other hand maybe True is just trying to position itself to buy out Diamondbacks and/or Sidewinders.

DC talent, in order, is Madlax, NL, BLC, and VLC. True DC could not get a roster together at 2030.....and barely has a roster at the older age groups.

API will no longer have lacrosse - the owner of API says there are too many lax programs in our area and the amount of complaining outweighs the profits

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Thoughts on Hoco alignment for 2030s?

Looks like the DC area teams have aggregated the top kids amongst BLC MadLax and Next Level. Any changes? Any other teams paying in Hoco? VLC?

Seems Annapolis talent was split between Hawks, Mesa & True with mediocre results in AAA. Is Mesa still around? If not are the kids now on Hawks or True?

In Baltimore many of the kids are staying with their Rec/Club programs. Crabs were bottom 3rd of AA. FCA and 91 2030 teams are new for this year. LTRC beat Kelly Post in championship. Hoco Blue Claws not far behind. Any of these teams move up? FCA a top upper level team? Guessing some of them were playing with their 29 team. Crabs get better?

Can't wait until spring.

In Baltimore, if your kid is on a AA or AAA rec club squad (at this age) and they aren't having massive player/coach defections, there is no reason to leave. Cost is low and the teams bond well over the years. That said, LTLC is going to get hammered this year. Team 91 as well. The problems with rec clubs can be seen at LTLC....while the 2029 squad is fantastic (and keeps getting better), the 2028 squad just has not developed and is in the bottom 10% of MD clubs. That's why I say if your son is a 2030 or 2031 and the rec club team is already good, it will probably get better. Don't bail.

In Annapolis, Mesa is gone. The 2029s went (overall) to Koopers but unsure about the 2030s. Maybe that's "True Severna Park." On the other hand maybe True is just trying to position itself to buy out Diamondbacks and/or Sidewinders.

DC talent, in order, is Madlax, NL, BLC, and VLC. True DC could not get a roster together at 2030.....and barely has a roster at the older age groups.

API will no longer have lacrosse - the owner of API says there are too many lax programs in our area and the amount of complaining outweighs the profits

When any business owner says that, I always encourage people to do the math to help you reveal their priorities.

With several clubs at the middle school level charging above and beyond $2200/year, netting the club $50-60K/year per team, gross rev.

Assume: club is a nonprofit, as almost all are (no taxes).

Revenue:
$52,000 dues
$3,000 optional "winter training" dues
$1,000 kickbacks on licensed gear, cleats, sticks, etc/partnership deals
Total: $56,000 income

Costs:
$20000 to club director (API in this case)
10000 head coach (contractor, no taxes paid by club)
$5000 asst coach (contractor, no taxes paid by club)
$1500 for an assistant to run the teamsnap, book tournaments etc (contractor)
$2000 HoCo League registration
$8000 tournament registrations (6)
$2500 uniforms (if you don't make the families pay extra),
$4000 in field rentals (often half field, split with another age group)
$2000 assorted supplies, goalie pads, balls etc
Total: $55,000 costs

So if the API director fields just 4 teams, and outsources 100% of the work to coaches and admin staff, he would have $80K income per year guaranteed, in addition to his other businesses and ventures. Boo hoo?

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Thoughts on Hoco alignment for 2030s?

Looks like the DC area teams have aggregated the top kids amongst BLC MadLax and Next Level. Any changes? Any other teams paying in Hoco? VLC?

Seems Annapolis talent was split between Hawks, Mesa & True with mediocre results in AAA. Is Mesa still around? If not are the kids now on Hawks or True?

In Baltimore many of the kids are staying with their Rec/Club programs. Crabs were bottom 3rd of AA. FCA and 91 2030 teams are new for this year. LTRC beat Kelly Post in championship. Hoco Blue Claws not far behind. Any of these teams move up? FCA a top upper level team? Guessing some of them were playing with their 29 team. Crabs get better?

Can't wait until spring.

In Baltimore, if your kid is on a AA or AAA rec club squad (at this age) and they aren't having massive player/coach defections, there is no reason to leave. Cost is low and the teams bond well over the years. That said, LTLC is going to get hammered this year. Team 91 as well. The problems with rec clubs can be seen at LTLC....while the 2029 squad is fantastic (and keeps getting better), the 2028 squad just has not developed and is in the bottom 10% of MD clubs. That's why I say if your son is a 2030 or 2031 and the rec club team is already good, it will probably get better. Don't bail.

In Annapolis, Mesa is gone. The 2029s went (overall) to Koopers but unsure about the 2030s. Maybe that's "True Severna Park." On the other hand maybe True is just trying to position itself to buy out Diamondbacks and/or Sidewinders.

DC talent, in order, is Madlax, NL, BLC, and VLC. True DC could not get a roster together at 2030.....and barely has a roster at the older age groups.

API will no longer have lacrosse - the owner of API says there are too many lax programs in our area and the amount of complaining outweighs the profits

When any business owner says that, I always encourage people to do the math to help you reveal their priorities.

With several clubs at the middle school level charging above and beyond $2200/year, netting the club $50-60K/year per team, gross rev.

Assume: club is a nonprofit, as almost all are (no taxes).

Revenue:
$52,000 dues
$3,000 optional "winter training" dues
$1,000 kickbacks on licensed gear, cleats, sticks, etc/partnership deals
Total: $56,000 income

Costs:
$20000 to club director (API in this case)
10000 head coach (contractor, no taxes paid by club)
$5000 asst coach (contractor, no taxes paid by club)
$1500 for an assistant to run the teamsnap, book tournaments etc (contractor)
$2000 HoCo League registration
$8000 tournament registrations (6)
$2500 uniforms (if you don't make the families pay extra),
$4000 in field rentals (often half field, split with another age group)
$2000 assorted supplies, goalie pads, balls etc
Total: $55,000 costs

So if the API director fields just 4 teams, and outsources 100% of the work to coaches and admin staff, he would have $80K income per year guaranteed, in addition to his other businesses and ventures. Boo hoo?

LOL plus technically he is paying himself for some of that field team, by paying club dues to API.

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Thoughts on Hoco alignment for 2030s?

Looks like the DC area teams have aggregated the top kids amongst BLC MadLax and Next Level. Any changes? Any other teams paying in Hoco? VLC?

Seems Annapolis talent was split between Hawks, Mesa & True with mediocre results in AAA. Is Mesa still around? If not are the kids now on Hawks or True?

In Baltimore many of the kids are staying with their Rec/Club programs. Crabs were bottom 3rd of AA. FCA and 91 2030 teams are new for this year. LTRC beat Kelly Post in championship. Hoco Blue Claws not far behind. Any of these teams move up? FCA a top upper level team? Guessing some of them were playing with their 29 team. Crabs get better?

Can't wait until spring.

In Baltimore, if your kid is on a AA or AAA rec club squad (at this age) and they aren't having massive player/coach defections, there is no reason to leave. Cost is low and the teams bond well over the years. That said, LTLC is going to get hammered this year. Team 91 as well. The problems with rec clubs can be seen at LTLC....while the 2029 squad is fantastic (and keeps getting better), the 2028 squad just has not developed and is in the bottom 10% of MD clubs. That's why I say if your son is a 2030 or 2031 and the rec club team is already good, it will probably get better. Don't bail.

In Annapolis, Mesa is gone. The 2029s went (overall) to Koopers but unsure about the 2030s. Maybe that's "True Severna Park." On the other hand maybe True is just trying to position itself to buy out Diamondbacks and/or Sidewinders.

DC talent, in order, is Madlax, NL, BLC, and VLC. True DC could not get a roster together at 2030.....and barely has a roster at the older age groups.

API will no longer have lacrosse - the owner of API says there are too many lax programs in our area and the amount of complaining outweighs the profits

I am not sure what API is or why even we should care. As stated, there are ample programs and opportunities for kids to find a fit. If profit is the motive/end game for a club owner, not sure I would even want to put my kid in that program.

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Dude. Every club owner is doing it for the money. Under the guise they want to grow the game. But if any of them wanted to grow the game they would focus on rec where all the other kids who can’t afford club have to play. But there isn’t any money in that so why bother….🤷‍♂️

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API used to have a good program - the market has become saturated.

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API used to have a good program - the market has become saturated.

That's certainly part of it. But they've had backyard competition (Sidewinders, about 5 miles away) for 10+ (I think) years. Sure, the failed Mesa-MD effort and "True Severna Park" (lol) is less than helpful. But it is not awfully difficult to have a "decent lacrosse product" (from Elite to A to Rec) and have it be a profitable enterprise.

The owner's comment of "too many complaints" tells me that it used to be easier to recruit a good roster (at whatever level) and parents' expectations were lower. Again, take a look at the Sidewinders page, it discusses coach:player ratios, average practices per year (85), touches per practice etc.

As a business owner I look at the API owner's attitude about this and kind of write it off as, "It used to be easy for me to net $90K/year out of this, now it takes 3x as much work to net $200K." His choice as the head of Diamondbacks I guess, but I hope he does not expect anyone to feel sympathy that parents today expect a better product (and more of it) than parents 10 years ago.....and today's parents are being charged to the hilt for it.

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[quote=Fred44]Thoughts on Hoco alignment for 2030s?

DC talent, in order, is Madlax, NL, BLC, and VLC. True DC could not get a roster together at 2030.....and barely has a roster at the older age groups.


For those of you new to Back of the Cage.... the owner of MadLax loves to post anonymously ... shocking he suggests ML is top in DC talent. 2030 ML couldn't beat Lutherville-Timonium Lacrosse Club, best case is finish 4th in HoCo behind BLC, NL, and Hawks. DC Express has taken over the top spot in DC for the older ages.

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[quote=Fred44]Thoughts on Hoco alignment for 2030s?

DC talent, in order, is Madlax, NL, BLC, and VLC. True DC could not get a roster together at 2030.....and barely has a roster at the older age groups.


For those of you new to Back of the Cage.... the owner of MadLax loves to post anonymously ... shocking he suggests ML is top in DC talent. 2030 ML couldn't beat Lutherville-Timonium Lacrosse Club, best case is finish 4th in HoCo behind BLC, NL, and Hawks. DC Express has taken over the top spot in DC for the older ages.

Don't worry Madlax is not the only one. 91 does the same.

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Does anyone know why Crabs is playing down this year. They are beating other teams by 10+ goals.

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Does anyone know why Crabs is playing down this year. They are beating other teams by 10+ goals.

My guess is because they went 1-6 last season. They were listed as a 2030/2031 team in 2021 but looks like they are a true 2030 team now. They will be moved up a division next year.

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Does anyone know anything about the Baltimore Swarm. I have not heard of them before but it seems like they are very competitive in the AA division.

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Does anyone know anything about the Baltimore Swarm. I have not heard of them before but it seems like they are very competitive in the AA division.

Used to be perry hall Rec. Rebranded and raised dues and are now a club.

Decent place for players playing for the fun of the game. Think LTLC.

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Does anyone know anything about the Baltimore Swarm. I have not heard of them before but it seems like they are very competitive in the AA division.


Swarm is club team for Perry Hall, like Blue Claws are part of Belair

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Does anyone know anything about the Baltimore Swarm. I have not heard of them before but it seems like they are very competitive in the AA division.

Used to be perry hall Rec. Rebranded and raised dues and are now a club.

Decent place for players playing for the fun of the game. Think LTLC.


Any other reason to play in 4th grade other than "fun of the game" ?

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Does anyone know anything about the Baltimore Swarm. I have not heard of them before but it seems like they are very competitive in the AA division.

Used to be perry hall Rec. Rebranded and raised dues and are now a club.

Decent place for players playing for the fun of the game. Think LTLC.


Any other reason to play in 4th grade other than "fun of the game" ?
That should be the only reason any kid plays.

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Does anyone know anything about the Baltimore Swarm. I have not heard of them before but it seems like they are very competitive in the AA division.

Used to be perry hall Rec. Rebranded and raised dues and are now a club.

Decent place for players playing for the fun of the game. Think LTLC.


Any other reason to play in 4th grade other than "fun of the game" ?
That should be the only reason any kid plays.

Totally! When kids are having fun at something, they want to do it more! When they do it more, they tend to get better and have more success and accomplishments. It’s So important to make it fun at the younger ages.

Most Parents make it too serious too young, Then, it becomes a job for the kid. I See so many of those kids on the older teams and usually their parents are the screamers in the stands! Kid looks miserable

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Baltimore Swarm 2030 team will be having tryouts at Concordia Prep 7/25/22-7/29/22. This year The Swarm 2030 team won MYLA club division and came in 2nd in HoCo AA division.

https://baltimoreswarmlax.com/

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My son is fairly new to playing club lacrosse and we are new to the landscape on the boys side in terms of all the teams/levels in the area. Can someone give a general breakdown of local clubs and levels? I know I can look at the GHCL for the 2030s, but as they get older, there seems to be more teams/clubs and what becomes more competitive or is it all age based? Also, are there clubs that don't have parent coaches at some point? Thanks!

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At this age there is AAA is the highest level, next one down is AA and so on. Tons of clubs at all levels, just have to decide how far you’re willing to travel. I’m unsure of any clubs that don’t have parent coaches, unfortunately. It’s a shame how much better some teams would be if not for Daddy ball and Buddy Ball.

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My son is fairly new to playing club lacrosse and we are new to the landscape on the boys side in terms of all the teams/levels in the area. Can someone give a general breakdown of local clubs and levels? I know I can look at the GHCL for the 2030s, but as they get older, there seems to be more teams/clubs and what becomes more competitive or is it all age based? Also, are there clubs that don't have parent coaches at some point? Thanks!

What position does he play? Where are you located?

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My son is fairly new to playing club lacrosse and we are new to the landscape on the boys side in terms of all the teams/levels in the area. Can someone give a general breakdown of local clubs and levels? I know I can look at the GHCL for the 2030s, but as they get older, there seems to be more teams/clubs and what becomes more competitive or is it all age based? Also, are there clubs that don't have parent coaches at some point? Thanks!

What position does he play? Where are you located?

Goalie. Howard county area

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My son is fairly new to playing club lacrosse and we are new to the landscape on the boys side in terms of all the teams/levels in the area. Can someone give a general breakdown of local clubs and levels? I know I can look at the GHCL for the 2030s, but as they get older, there seems to be more teams/clubs and what becomes more competitive or is it all age based? Also, are there clubs that don't have parent coaches at some point? Thanks!

What position does he play? Where are you located?

Goalie. Howard county area

If he is a goalie and is really good. Half the teams out here will take him.

If he's not that good yet and still developing and shows potential, the other half will take him.

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My son is fairly new to playing club lacrosse and we are new to the landscape on the boys side in terms of all the teams/levels in the area. Can someone give a general breakdown of local clubs and levels? I know I can look at the GHCL for the 2030s, but as they get older, there seems to be more teams/clubs and what becomes more competitive or is it all age based? Also, are there clubs that don't have parent coaches at some point? Thanks!

What position does he play? Where are you located?

Goalie. Howard county area


No need to jump on the top level teams at this moment in time. Let your goalie develop. Best thing for him is to play on the worst possible team. That way he’ll see all the shots and work on his mental toughness. A lot of these top level teams will cut all the deadweight by the six grade. By then your goalie should be elite level. And will make any team. Now granite there’s a lot of politics, for example the crabs. And the only reason I picked them is because they seem to be the closest team to you. If you don’t plan on going to one of the powerhouse teams in the area MCD and BL for example then chances are your son will be cut unless he’s one of the best goalies in the area. Part of their business model is to use kids status on private school teams. They make people believe that they had something to do with your Kid going to one of those schools. As if they develop them. Play on the worst team in the elite level that way you develop and you can observe. Take these two years to scout each team. Beware of the teams with the highly social goalie moms and dads. If your son is better and tries out for their team they will turn all the parents against you and make your life miserable until you find another team.

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My son is fairly new to playing club lacrosse and we are new to the landscape on the boys side in terms of all the teams/levels in the area. Can someone give a general breakdown of local clubs and levels? I know I can look at the GHCL for the 2030s, but as they get older, there seems to be more teams/clubs and what becomes more competitive or is it all age based? Also, are there clubs that don't have parent coaches at some point? Thanks!

What position does he play? Where are you located?

Goalie. Howard county area

If he is a goalie and is really good. Half the teams out here will take him.

If he's not that good yet and still developing and shows potential, the other half will take him.

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What position does he play? Where are you located?

Goalie. Howard county area

If he is a goalie and is really good. Half the teams out here will take him.

If he's not that good yet and still developing and shows potential, the other half will take him.

What are considered "top half" and "bottom half"?

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What position does he play? Where are you located?

Goalie. Howard county area

If he is a goalie and is really good. Half the teams out here will take him.

If he's not that good yet and still developing and shows potential, the other half will take him.

What are considered "top half" and "bottom half"?

When looking for a team I would suggest you look around and find a coaching staff that you agree with and feel comfortable with. Maryland lacrosse is a garbage show. Seems like new programs pop up and fold every season. You basically have 2 choices:

Real clubs:
Crabs
91
FCA....

Club Rec:
Ville
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BlueClaws.....

Real clubs will cost you a bit more but will provide things like Goalie training, nice facilities, and as you get older the Name which will help with recruiting. The negative of Real clubs is the Bottom line is important so if they find better players the existing players get cut.

Club Rec is often times much cheaper because the county recs pay for their field space. Their coaches are often dads and specialty training is usually poor.

Either way at this age group most of the coaches are dads. There are tons of drama in both.

I suggested finding a coaching staff because the kids will jump all over the place because parents are crazy. But having good coaches, dads or not, will encourage you child to learn while having lots of fun.

Remember the kids are 10 so the only reason they play is because the like the sport and want to have fun.

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This is the time to start looking for elite clubs to play for. No matter what is said like above, the sooner the better to play elite.

I know this is a sore subject, but if you haven't done a prefirst, might want to consider holding back a year. Especially if you want to be a starter in private schools or MIAA HS's and beyond. Major benefits from it at early age, getting on better teams, more playing time, more maturity. It works no matter what is said, I know

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This is the time to start looking for elite clubs to play for. No matter what is said like above, the sooner the better to play elite.

I know this is a sore subject, but if you haven't done a prefirst, might want to consider holding back a year. Especially if you want to be a starter in private schools or MIAA HS's and beyond. Major benefits from it at early age, getting on better teams, more playing time, more maturity. It works no matter what is said, I know

Really, You think it is a good thing to hold your kid back for any other reason than they need additional help in school. Holding your kid back helps them Dominate in their early years but as soon as they Mature all the kids are the same. Holding your kid back is for the parents to feel better when they watch their kids play.

This persons kid will probably be burned out by the time he gets to H.S. from all the pressure.

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This is the time to start looking for elite clubs to play for. No matter what is said like above, the sooner the better to play elite.

I know this is a sore subject, but if you haven't done a prefirst, might want to consider holding back a year. Especially if you want to be a starter in private schools or MIAA HS's and beyond. Major benefits from it at early age, getting on better teams, more playing time, more maturity. It works no matter what is said, I know

Really, You think it is a good thing to hold your kid back for any other reason than they need additional help in school. Holding your kid back helps them Dominate in their early years but as soon as they Mature all the kids are the same. Holding your kid back is for the parents to feel better when they watch their kids play.

This persons kid will probably be burned out by the time he gets to H.S. from all the pressure.

Hardly, Most MIAA starters are either prefirst/heldback or born between Sept and Dec. It is what it is. Not the greatest look for lacrosse with the amount that is heldback now.

Cant tell you how many people have said, they wished they held their child back to give him a chance. If you want your son to play elite, Hold him back or you will regret it. Most MIAA parents know the drill now, you must be public school or one have of the lucky Sept to Dec ones .

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This is the time to start looking for elite clubs to play for. No matter what is said like above, the sooner the better to play elite.

I know this is a sore subject, but if you haven't done a prefirst, might want to consider holding back a year. Especially if you want to be a starter in private schools or MIAA HS's and beyond. Major benefits from it at early age, getting on better teams, more playing time, more maturity. It works no matter what is said, I know

Really, You think it is a good thing to hold your kid back for any other reason than they need additional help in school. Holding your kid back helps them Dominate in their early years but as soon as they Mature all the kids are the same. Holding your kid back is for the parents to feel better when they watch their kids play.

This persons kid will probably be burned out by the time he gets to H.S. from all the pressure.

Hardly, Most MIAA starters are either prefirst/heldback or born between Sept and Dec. It is what it is. Not the greatest look for lacrosse with the amount that is heldback now.

Cant tell you how many people have said, they wished they held their child back to give him a chance. If you want your son to play elite, Hold him back or you will regret it. Most MIAA parents know the drill now, you must be public school or one have of the lucky Sept to Dec ones .

Holding kids back for sports is ridiculous. The only reason this should be done is for social/academic reasons. Here’s a secret, there is no professional lax to pave a financial future for your kids. If they don’t have academics then lax won’t take them very far on its own. But hey, they can brag for the rest of their lives about playing in the MIAA, which I guess means something to people around here.

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My son is fairly new to playing club lacrosse and we are new to the landscape on the boys side in terms of all the teams/levels in the area. Can someone give a general breakdown of local clubs and levels? I know I can look at the GHCL for the 2030s, but as they get older, there seems to be more teams/clubs and what becomes more competitive or is it all age based? Also, are there clubs that don't have parent coaches at some point? Thanks!

What position does he play? Where are you located?

Goalie. Howard county area

If he is a goalie and is really good. Half the teams out here will take him.

If he's not that good yet and still developing and shows potential, the other half will take him.

Anyone know of any teams looking for a goalie?

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My son is fairly new to playing club lacrosse and we are new to the landscape on the boys side in terms of all the teams/levels in the area. Can someone give a general breakdown of local clubs and levels? I know I can look at the GHCL for the 2030s, but as they get older, there seems to be more teams/clubs and what becomes more competitive or is it all age based? Also, are there clubs that don't have parent coaches at some point? Thanks!

What position does he play? Where are you located?

Goalie. Howard county area

If he is a goalie and is really good. Half the teams out here will take him.

If he's not that good yet and still developing and shows potential, the other half will take him.

Anyone know of any teams looking for a goalie?

Your best bet is to try out for a bunch of clubs and take a chance at one you like

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Anyone know anything about the predators 2030 team? They didn’t play in hoco league.

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Anyone know anything about the predators 2030 team? They didn’t play in hoco league.

They didn't have one this year

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How much religion is infused in FCA? Realize it’s an “elite” club but curious about that aspect.

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How much religion is infused in FCA? Realize it’s an “elite” club but curious about that aspect.
Some the coaches have high school sit in groups and do "huddles" where they talk about religious stuff. I am not really religious at all and I don't mind it. My son actually loves it and they are one of the only teams that incorporate high school kids in their practices. In this age group FCA is not elite they went 0 -6 in the AAA hoco league. I am sure they will get better since in a year of 2.

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With FCA it totally depends on your coach. Some coaches ignore it, some really breathe it into the culture of their teams.

How's the dust settling after tryouts? Heard FCA lost a few key guys to 91 and Crabs? Any other shifting around for the 2030s?C

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In the 2030's...

Crabs picked up a few kids and cut a few.

91 picked up most of the kids Crabs cut and a couple that would have been cut/not asked back from FCA.

FCA brought in two young non-parent coaches and that paired with a bunch of different kids, the team will be get over time, though maybe not immediately.

LTLC lost top defender and top attackman after struggling on the tournament circuit.

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Anyone have any ideas how a team can find a Goalie at this age group.

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Local township league…ask the coaches or parents. You’d be surprised how many kids don’t realize how good they can be at that age, if they focused on it

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Dude. Every club owner is doing it for the money. Under the guise they want to grow the game. But if any of them wanted to grow the game they would focus on rec where all the other kids who can’t afford club have to play. But there isn’t any money in that so why bother….🤷‍♂️
A challenge here is that rec clubs and rec programs generally loathe the idea of giving up control for an all star type club team. It’s usually local all star teams eg LTLC. What it all the baltco teams put together a similar feeder? This issue comes down to “well which of the rec programs is most in charge?” which effectively means adding an additional layer of governance.

It’s all doable in theory but it’s never been done.

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Crabs 2030 were undefeated HOCO Champs last year and after adding 6 more studs at tryouts will compete for the Elite title in the Spring.

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Then Egos will destroy the team like all the crabs teams. Crabs recruits deep and falls short in coaching

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From what I hear Bethesda is ridiculous at this age level. Asking for miracle to go from AA champs to AAA champs .

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Crabs 2030 were undefeated HOCO Champs last year and after adding 6 more studs at tryouts will compete for the Elite title in the Spring.

LOL 4th grade studs.

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Where are the ‘31 and ‘32 threads?

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Where are the ‘31 and ‘32 threads?
Knock yourself out, create them.

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Bethesda 2030 is a great team; son’s team played against them numerous times now and they’re impressive.
Well coached, talented and do not make mistakes; not easy to do at this age.
Still think Orange crush is #1 at this age…

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Crabs 2030 were undefeated HOCO Champs last year and after adding 6 more studs at tryouts will compete for the Elite title in the Spring.

Crabs 2030 chest thumping dad has entered the chat. What took so long? Will continue into high school when the 6 new "studs" are hired guns from Texas, Florida, Colorado etc. The worst scenario are the boys good enough to keep making the team but just when you're about to get the payoff junior year, tons of college coaches watching and now your getting 1 run a half, or worse. Good luck., Crabs is a meat grinder that will work out for just a handful of kids on the current team.

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My boy’s team beat them this summer, they weren’t impressive at all. But hey, keep encouraging them, buddy, still plenty of time to improve!

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Where are the ‘31 and ‘32 threads?
Knock yourself out, create them.
How?

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Yes anyone that knows how to do it please do.

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Yes anyone that knows how to do it please do.

create an account and then you can create a thread

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Crabs 2030 were undefeated HOCO Champs last year and after adding 6 more studs at tryouts will compete for the Elite title in the Spring.

Crabs 2030 chest thumping dad has entered the chat. What took so long? Will continue into high school when the 6 new "studs" are hired guns from Texas, Florida, Colorado etc. The worst scenario are the boys good enough to keep making the team but just when you're about to get the payoff junior year, tons of college coaches watching and now your getting 1 run a half, or worse. Good luck., Crabs is a meat grinder that will work out for just a handful of kids on the current team.

Crabs are for a special lot of players. Most will play in college. D1 for many. Cant do that with participation, time to decide .

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Anyone know how True teams are structured this year? Is True Chesapeake a combination of last years True Annapolis and Severna Park?

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Crabs 2030 were undefeated HOCO Champs last year and after adding 6 more studs at tryouts will compete for the Elite title in the Spring.

Crabs 2030 chest thumping dad has entered the chat. What took so long? Will continue into high school when the 6 new "studs" are hired guns from Texas, Florida, Colorado etc. The worst scenario are the boys good enough to keep making the team but just when you're about to get the payoff junior year, tons of college coaches watching and now your getting 1 run a half, or worse. Good luck., Crabs is a meat grinder that will work out for just a handful of kids on the current team.

Crabs are for a special lot of players. Most will play in college. D1 for many. Cant do that with participation, time to decide .

Crabs below 7th grade is a waste of money.

Mostly parents who want their kids to get a yellow helmet.

Kids who join the Crabs in 5th grade or below are the ones who get cut in 7th.

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They played BLC Blue this Fall losing 6-3, beat Madlax Capital and Next Level. We'll fight for it in the Spring smile

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Crabs 2030 were undefeated HOCO Champs last year and after adding 6 more studs at tryouts will compete for the Elite title in the Spring.

Crabs 2030 chest thumping dad has entered the chat. What took so long? Will continue into high school when the 6 new "studs" are hired guns from Texas, Florida, Colorado etc. The worst scenario are the boys good enough to keep making the team but just when you're about to get the payoff junior year, tons of college coaches watching and now your getting 1 run a half, or worse. Good luck., Crabs is a meat grinder that will work out for just a handful of kids on the current team.

Crabs are for a special lot of players. Most will play in college. D1 for many. Cant do that with participation, time to decide .

Crabs below 7th grade is a waste of money.

Mostly parents who want their kids to get a yellow helmet.

Kids who join the Crabs in 5th grade or below are the ones who get cut in 7th.

No , if on age and a Crab below 7th , you are a Crab as you holdback a year. The prefirsts stay where they are. Only ones getting cut are the players that decide to stay on age. No that hard to figure out. Holdback and be on the Crabs or any elite for that matter, or stay on age and slowly lose your place

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My son is fairly new to playing club lacrosse and we are new to the landscape on the boys side in terms of all the teams/levels in the area. Can someone give a general breakdown of local clubs and levels? I know I can look at the GHCL for the 2030s, but as they get older, there seems to be more teams/clubs and what becomes more competitive or is it all age based? Also, are there clubs that don't have parent coaches at some point? Thanks!

What position does he play? Where are you located?

If he is a goalie and is really good. Half the teams out here will take him.

If he's not that good yet and still developing and shows potential, the other half will take him.

What are considered "top half" and "bottom half"?

When looking for a team I would suggest you look around and find a coaching staff that you agree with and feel comfortable with. Maryland lacrosse is a [Censored] show. Seems like new programs pop up and fold every season. You basically have 2 choices:

Real clubs:
Crabs
91
FCA....

Club Rec:
Ville
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BlueClaws.....

Real clubs will cost you a bit more but will provide things like Goalie training, nice facilities, and as you get older the Name which will help with recruiting. The negative of Real clubs is the Bottom line is important so if they find better players the existing players get cut.

Club Rec is often times much cheaper because the county recs pay for their field space. Their coaches are often dads and specialty training is usually poor.

Either way at this age group most of the coaches are dads. There are tons of drama in both.

I suggested finding a coaching staff because the kids will jump all over the place because parents are fool. But having good coaches, dads or not, will encourage you child to learn while having lots of fun.

Remember the kids are 10 so the only reason they play is because the like the sport and want to have fun.

In this sport most of the coaches are dads.

Community-based “rec” OR for-profit “real” clubs. Middle school and HS.

Name a club and I will show you a dad coach/director. Any club.

Real clubs cost more than rec but will also make you pay more for specialty training and every extra too. Their dads might also have better resumes but be worse coaches. Take it all with a grain of salt. The for-profit clubs send you emails for extras all the time. All claiming to be “the best opportunity/training/camp/etc. it’s actually laughable.

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If you think you’re getting good coaching from any of these high dollar clubs, you’re sadly mistaken.

Most kids come into hs with MAJOR fundamental issues.

Unfortunately, details are not a priority with these coaches. Most just make their kids play 6v6, when they should be focused on footwork, spacing, and stickwork mechanics.

Want your kid to be a hs student? For a start, teach him how to shoot using more than his top hand.

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Crabs 2030 were undefeated HOCO Champs last year and after adding 6 more studs at tryouts will compete for the Elite title in the Spring.

LOL 4th grade studs.

5th grade wink

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Crabs needed 7 players, not 6. Good luck though

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True Chesapeake is on the rise - look out 2030 Elite Division!

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True Chesapeake is on the rise - look out 2030 Elite Division!

Is True Chesapeake a combination of the Annapolis and Severna park teams?

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True Chesapeake is on the rise - look out 2030 Elite Division!

Is True Chesapeake a combination of the Annapolis and Severna park teams?

So why did all their kids leave and go to other programs after the Club lied that they had a team?

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True represents all that is wrong with club lacrosse. While club lacrosse in general is cancer for the sport, true is stage four terminal…buyer beware…

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My son plays for a top 2030 club and has played the top 2030 clubs…never heard of these clowns.

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True represents all that is wrong with club lacrosse. While club lacrosse in general is cancer for the sport, true is stage four terminal…buyer beware…

So do they have 2 2030 teams in AA County or did they combine the annapolis and severna park teams?

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PRE_SEASON TOP 10
Maryland 2030 TEAMS

1. Bethesda Blue
2. Crabs
3. MadLax Capital
4. Next Level
5. Annapolis Hawks
6. True Chesapeake
7. LTLC
8. Kelly Post
9. Swarm
10. Team 91

(based on 2022 record - Spring, Summer, Fall)

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PRE_SEASON TOP 10
National 2030 TEAMS

1. Igloo Black Ice
2. Legacy Admirals
3. Bethesda Blue
4. 91 LI Cyclones
5. BBL Black
7. Mad Dog National
8. Crabs
9. Madlax Capitol
10. Nationals

(based on 2022 record - Spring, Summer, Fall)

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Nationals are not good at this age; team out of Philly (Duke’s Elite) beat a lot of these teams…
Not having Orange Crush on this list proves you know nothing about 2030s Nationally

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Ouch - would you like to kick my dog?

Doesn't look like Orange Crush has beaten any elite teams.

By all means though - please share your Top 10.

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Does Crabs, having been in the 2nd division of Hoco last year, deserve a top 10 ranking? I know they've had a good fall but did they beat any top teams in the summer?

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Take a crack at this top 2030 teams list. Think a number of teams that are very good were left off:

2030 TOP TEAMS (no National teams just clubs)

1. Orange Crush - NY (beat Team 91, 2Way, Igloo, BBL etc in the summer)
2. Team 91 - NY (beat a lot of the Long Island teams and some quality national wins)
3. Legacy - NY (lost to Igloo at NAL this fall, but has racked up top wins all summer/fall long)
4. 2Way- CT (won a loaded Hershey tourney against Bethesda 2x, Igloo, Dukes, Madlax and lost to OC in a close championship)
5. Bethesda - MD (dominated HOCO elite, won Millon against great comp)
6. Igloo Black Ice - NY (up and down with great wins against Legacy and 2Way but losses to Duke's and others)
7. Rebels - NY (beat a lot of these top teams over the summer and fall, could be higher)
8. BBL Black - NJ (quality wins against LI teams and OC puts them solid in the top 10 - struggled a bit this fall)
9. Madlax Cap - MD (made the playoffs at Hershey after a big win vs Igloo, top 3 team in HOCO, good fall against local comp)
10. Annapolis Hawks - MD (good fall against local comp, beat Dukes in fall but still couldn't get over Bethesda hump, should be top 3 in HOCO)
11. Dukes Elite - PA (Lost to BBL by 1 this fall, beat a lot of top teams last year like OC and Igloo and Sweetlax and Hawks in summer)
12. BBL Shore - NJ (since being renamed from Team United has not played in many top tourneys, but has solid wins over the summer)
13. SweetLax Upstate - NY (battled with a lot of good comp over summer and fall)
14. Crabs- MD (look better this fall but can't put them in top 10 till we see how they do in HOCO elite AAA bracket since they were down last year in AA)
15. LI Express - NY (wild card team and this spot could of went to Next Level. Up and down in the summer and fall)

Who did I miss?

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we are looking to join a club in the AA county area. How is Sidewinders? Looking at their fall, they beat a few of the teams you have as top 10?

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Take a crack at this top 2030 teams list. Think a number of teams that are very good were left off:

2030 TOP TEAMS (no National teams just clubs)

1. Orange Crush - NY (beat Team 91, 2Way, Igloo, BBL etc in the summer)
2. Team 91 - NY (beat a lot of the Long Island teams and some quality national wins)
3. Legacy - NY (lost to Igloo at NAL this fall, but has racked up top wins all summer/fall long)
4. 2Way- CT (won a loaded Hershey tourney against Bethesda 2x, Igloo, Dukes, Madlax and lost to OC in a close championship)
5. Bethesda - MD (dominated HOCO elite, won Millon against great comp)
6. Igloo Black Ice - NY (up and down with great wins against Legacy and 2Way but losses to Duke's and others)
7. Rebels - NY (beat a lot of these top teams over the summer and fall, could be higher)
8. BBL Black - NJ (quality wins against LI teams and OC puts them solid in the top 10 - struggled a bit this fall)
9. Madlax Cap - MD (made the playoffs at Hershey after a big win vs Igloo, top 3 team in HOCO, good fall against local comp)
10. Annapolis Hawks - MD (good fall against local comp, beat Dukes in fall but still couldn't get over Bethesda hump, should be top 3 in HOCO)
11. Dukes Elite - PA (Lost to BBL by 1 this fall, beat a lot of top teams last year like OC and Igloo and Sweetlax and Hawks in summer)
12. BBL Shore - NJ (since being renamed from Team United has not played in many top tourneys, but has solid wins over the summer)
13. SweetLax Upstate - NY (battled with a lot of good comp over summer and fall)
14. Crabs- MD (look better this fall but can't put them in top 10 till we see how they do in HOCO elite AAA bracket since they were down last year in AA)
15. LI Express - NY (wild card team and this spot could of went to Next Level. Up and down in the summer and fall)

Who did I miss?

Next Level has been missing there top players due to injures and other sports. No depth! Huge drop off after there top six players. All there top players are 2031s!!!

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Hard to argue w this list, seems on point…appreciate the detailed analysis

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That's a fair Top 15 - 2030 Ranking.

HoCo 2030 Elite is going to be fun to watch this Spring with Bethesda, Madlax, Next Level, Hawks, Crabs and True competing for the top spot.

Iron will Sharpen Iron for sure.

Then the next measure of the top teams will be NAL 6/10/2023.

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That's a fair Top 15 - 2030 Ranking.

HoCo 2030 Elite is going to be fun to watch this Spring with Bethesda, Madlax, Next Level, Hawks, Crabs and True competing for the top spot.

Iron will Sharpen Iron for sure.

Then the next measure of the top teams will be NAL 6/10/2023.

Which 2 team round out elite? Did 91 and FCA improve their rosters?

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91 only lost to Duke's Elite by 1 over the Summer but it was with a great guest FCA defender that ultimately joined Crabs. Don't expect them to improve very much from last year as they lost their 2nd best attackman to Crabs as well.

FCA lost their best defender but will likely improve with a few good 2030 attackmen coming down from their successful 2029 team. In a stacked Elite division they'll have to battle to stay out of the cellar with 91.

Crabs in addition to winning the AA division of HoCo averaging over 15 goals a game added top players from LTLC, 91 and FCA. They were 3-2-1 in the Fall defeating Madlax, Next Level and Hawks - only falling to Bethesda and Mad Dog National. Look for them to challenge for the top spot in Elite this Spring.

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Actually, they’ve played twice.
The last time Duke’s Elite played Crabs, they won by 1; previous game, they beat them 9-4. Hopefully, they’ll play against each other more..
That 2030 BLC team is tough

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Duke’s Elite an KD Crabs only played once, with Duke’s winning 9-6…
Heard there’s been a lot of player movement within the MD area teams, whether it be 29s reclassing or kids moving to different teams - will be interesting to see year over year performance

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That's a fair Top 15 - 2030 Ranking.

HoCo 2030 Elite is going to be fun to watch this Spring with Bethesda, Madlax, Next Level, Hawks, Crabs and True competing for the top spot.

Iron will Sharpen Iron for sure.

Then the next measure of the top teams will be NAL 6/10/2023.

Which 2 team round out elite? Did 91 and FCA improve their rosters?

Which one of these teams are in need of a Goalie?

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A dedicated goalie looking to progress in the position is always welcome. At the 2030 age group that seems hard to find.

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That's a fair Top 15 - 2030 Ranking.

HoCo 2030 Elite is going to be fun to watch this Spring with Bethesda, Madlax, Next Level, Hawks, Crabs and True competing for the top spot.

Iron will Sharpen Iron for sure.

Then the next measure of the top teams will be NAL 6/10/2023.

Which 2 team round out elite? Did 91 and FCA improve their rosters?

Which one of these teams are in need of a Goalie?


Word around town is Crabs may be looking to add another goalie. Reach out to crabsoffice@gmail.com with interest and setup a tryout.

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Definitely a lot of movement around teams with True combining their 2 local teams (Annapolis and Severna Park) into True Chesapeake and new ProStart younger teams program (they’ve only had HS teams up until now). ProStart’s 2030 team picked up kids from last years True Annapolis, Sidewinders, Hawks and Cannons from what I hear, but they appear to have gone AAA.

My money is on BLC and Crabs as top teams in ‘23. BLC destroyed True Chesapeake this weekend and Hawks only beat FCA by 3. BLC and Crabs have more depth than the other teams and have more than one or two kids that can score. I also hear coaching staff on some of these teams don’t all see eye to eye so it’ll be an interesting year for sure especially if it all comes to a head. Can’t wait to see the fireworks!

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Definitely a lot of movement around teams with True combining their 2 local teams (Annapolis and Severna Park) into True Chesapeake and new ProStart younger teams program (they’ve only had HS teams up until now). ProStart’s 2030 team picked up kids from last years True Annapolis, Sidewinders, Hawks and Cannons from what I hear, but they appear to have gone AAA.

My money is on BLC and Crabs as top teams in ‘23. BLC destroyed True Chesapeake this weekend and Hawks only beat FCA by 3. BLC and Crabs have more depth than the other teams and have more than one or two kids that can score. I also hear coaching staff on some of these teams don’t all see eye to eye so it’ll be an interesting year for sure especially if it all comes to a head. Can’t wait to see the fireworks!

Crabs parents here. Appreciate the confidence. Watched Hawks/FCA game before ours-- didn't ever appear to be close, Hawks were running away with game and started messing with lineups typical in a big win. FCA appears improved though. Calvert Hall coach in their sidelines coaching them.

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Will there be a coaching change with the 2030 Hawks anytime soon?

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Will there be a coaching change with the 2030 Hawks anytime soon?
Why? Is your son not playing over the coach’s kids?

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Will there be a coaching change with the 2030 Hawks anytime soon?
Why? Is your son not playing over the coach’s kids?

Maybe start with cutting the st Mary’s kids first.

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This Crabs team moves the ball very well and the FOGO is incredible. Was a close game at half, but their ball movement wore down the defense in the second half. Very well coached team, going to give all teams in this league problems all year. As a new parent to 91, despite all of the fool amount of detest on these forums, their coaches are really good. I couldn't be happier we made the move. They'll be competitive, a lot of new players learning to play together.

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Lots of daddy ball, buddy/neighbor/nephew ball on Hawks. They also picked up an assistant coach and his son mid-summer last year right before to tryouts. (Had no need for either) Word on the street it was a “favor” for getting another family member in as head coach for one of the other teams.

If Hawks cut the st Mary’s kids they wouldn’t have a team next year. I’m exaggerating of course, but more than half their team goes to SM. Wonder what’ll happen in the next year or two with SMHS coaches running their own club.

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Lots of daddy ball, buddy/neighbor/nephew ball on Hawks. They also picked up an assistant coach and his son mid-summer last year right before to tryouts. (Had no need for either) Word on the street it was a “favor” for getting another family member in as head coach for one of the other teams.

If Hawks cut the st Mary’s kids they wouldn’t have a team next year. I’m exaggerating of course, but more than half their team goes to SM. Wonder what’ll happen in the next year or two with SMHS coaches running their own club.


It's daddy ball central and easily the most embarrassing team in the Hawks org.

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Only 4 Hawks SM kids

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Lots of daddy ball, buddy/neighbor/nephew ball on Hawks. They also picked up an assistant coach and his son mid-summer last year right before to tryouts. (Had no need for either) Word on the street it was a “favor” for getting another family member in as head coach for one of the other teams.

If Hawks cut the st Mary’s kids they wouldn’t have a team next year. I’m exaggerating of course, but more than half their team goes to SM. Wonder what’ll happen in the next year or two with SMHS coaches running their own club.


It's daddy ball central and easily the most embarrassing team in the Hawks org.

It’s unfortunate because when they first announce who the head coach was going to be it was very exciting giving his background. He’s just the same as the rest of these daddy coaches. He’s only focus on his son and a handful of the other kids and that’s it. Hopefully Hogan steps in.

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Lots of daddy ball, buddy/neighbor/nephew ball on Hawks. They also picked up an assistant coach and his son mid-summer last year right before to tryouts. (Had no need for either) Word on the street it was a “favor” for getting another family member in as head coach for one of the other teams.

If Hawks cut the st Mary’s kids they wouldn’t have a team next year. I’m exaggerating of course, but more than half their team goes to SM. Wonder what’ll happen in the next year or two with SMHS coaches running their own club.


It's daddy ball central and easily the most embarrassing team in the Hawks org.


Reality will set in when they reach high school and get cut

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No, it’s definitely more, like 9 or 10 SM 5th graders.

if the new birth year rules come into play, it’ll be fun to see the shake up of all these teams.

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No, it’s definitely more, like 9 or 10 SM 5th graders.

if the new birth year rules come into play, it’ll be fun to see the shake up of all these teams.

Why does having 9/10 kids at same elementary school an indictment on the team or coaches? It’s based out of Annapolis area, of course you will have large faction of St Mary’s kids, that’s typical.

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Hmmmm have you been to a game? The coaches son doesn’t play that much. Third/fourth lefty attacker, if that. That team is learning to play lacrosse as they should.

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Head coach has no affiliation to this area or St Marys, just a long successful history playing and coaching lacrosse. You have some bad intel.

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Head coach has no affiliation to this area or St Marys, just a long successful history playing and coaching lacrosse. You have some bad intel.

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Head coach has no affiliation to this area or St Marys, just a long successful history playing and coaching lacrosse. You have some bad intel.


Coaches daughter will attend SM high school next year. Every other coach has kids at St Marys. Expecting a mass exodus to Prostart soon enough, as it's run by SMA coaches.

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No, it’s definitely more, like 9 or 10 SM 5th graders.

if the new birth year rules come into play, it’ll be fun to see the shake up of all these teams.

Why does having 9/10 kids at same elementary school an indictment on the team or coaches? It’s based out of Annapolis area, of course you will have large faction of St Mary’s kids, that’s typical.

9/10 kids maybe 1 or 2 will play at st Mary’s. The rest just not talented. Daddy ball keeps them on the hawks only matter of time before they get cut. Wonder what the parent social circles will look like then.

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Elementary age kids should play rec with their friends and wait until middle or even high school for the club madness (and expense). Coaching and access to good competition does matter so adding in a few camps, tournaments or playing in Hoco helps but save your money and mileage on the SUV and keep them nearby for few years. Puberty changes everything anyway. Hold onto those roster cards, very few will be on the elite club teams in 7th grade let alone 9th or 10th.

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Elementary age kids should play rec with their friends and wait until middle or even high school for the club madness (and expense). Coaching and access to good competition does matter so adding in a few camps, tournaments or playing in Hoco helps but save your money and mileage on the SUV and keep them nearby for few years. Puberty changes everything anyway. Hold onto those roster cards, very few will be on the elite club teams in 7th grade let alone 9th or 10th.

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Elementary age kids should play rec with their friends and wait until middle or even high school for the club madness (and expense). Coaching and access to good competition does matter so adding in a few camps, tournaments or playing in Hoco helps but save your money and mileage on the SUV and keep them nearby for few years. Puberty changes everything anyway. Hold onto those roster cards, very few will be on the elite club teams in 7th grade let alone 9th or 10th.

But hawks team is about parents trying to climb social status.

Most of those kids should be playing Annapolis rec.

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Elementary age kids should play rec with their friends and wait until middle or even high school for the club madness (and expense). Coaching and access to good competition does matter so adding in a few camps, tournaments or playing in Hoco helps but save your money and mileage on the SUV and keep them nearby for few years. Puberty changes everything anyway. Hold onto those roster cards, very few will be on the elite club teams in 7th grade let alone 9th or 10th.

But hawks team is about parents trying to climb social status.

Most of those kids should be playing Annapolis rec.


These kids are 11. So much change will happen - kids that are good now will plateau, burn out because of pressure of parents, kids will start working outside of practice and some won’t. The difference between 5th-9th is astronomical. Making assumptions on where these kids will be in 4 years or what type of player they will be is insane. Parents should be asking 1) is my kid getting better 2) is my kid having FUN (not one mention of that above and they are in elementary school) 3) is the grass greener or am I the fool 4) why am I, an adult, ripping on 11 year olds

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These kids are 11. So much change will happen - kids that are good now will plateau, burn out because of pressure of parents, kids will start working outside of practice and some won’t. The difference between 5th-9th is astronomical. Making assumptions on where these kids will be in 4 years or what type of player they will be is insane. Parents should be asking 1) is my kid getting better 2) is my kid having FUN (not one mention of that above and they are in elementary school) 3) is the grass greener or am I the fool 4) why am I, an adult, ripping on 11 year olds

This. The idea of creating a Top 15 list of clubs for 5th graders is ridiculous and serves no purpose other than to feed egos and line the pockets of club owners. There are no...NO..'great' players in this age group. There are only POTENTIALLY great players. The kids you think are amazing now.... it's meaningless unless they continue to develop. And most clubs don't put in the effort toward your kid that you expect. Other teams that aren't on this ridiculous list (and I've seen a lot of them play), there are some kids that could very well be stars on your team, and there are kids that can't seem to hang. There are teams with coaches that are active and involved and teams where the coaches seem unengaged and disinterested. While all of these can affect how well any team plays any week, long-term is going to come down to a matter of the consistent effort, energy, and attitude any particular kid develops. Being on a supposed 'top 15' 5th grade team is NOT how that happens. I don't care if the kid is playing elite, AAA, or on a B team. Attitude, effort, and energy they bring on a consistent basis is where it's at and the teams parading around like they've done something important in 5th grade that think that's going to carry them into and through high school.... sorry... no.

Point is... lighten the heck up. Chill the f out. Try to go to games and just enjoy the moments where things are working, accept the situations where things aren't clicking, and be supportive of kids that aren't quite succeeding but want to be better. I seriously wish I could watch more youth lax where parents could calm down and cheer on good plays that happen on the other side of the field. A reckoning will likely come one day where your 'top 15' team gets blown out by one that isn't on your radar. You should be thankful for the opportunity to learn something from it.

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I would also venture all this spewing is from people who never have set 1 foot on the lacrosse field to play but are “experts”

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Making a list of top 15 or having your child train at the 5th grade level isn’t so fool…so pipe down.
We all know a lot of these kids won’t be superstars but I assure you, if your child only plays rec until 7th or 8th grade, he/she will be behind. Fact! Doesn’t mean they won’t succeed, doesn’t mean they aren’t athletic, but others will be better/ahead.
If you are content w your child playing varsity maybe junior yr, most likely senior year, kudos, because that’s exactly what he’ll/she’ll be doing.
Also, this may be hard for you to grasp but some children love the sport, love the competitiveness, loves the rivalries and the friendships they’ve made through all this, I know mine does.
So get off your high horse; you’re not a better parent cuz you don’t push your child.

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Making a list of top 15 or having your child train at the 5th grade level isn’t so fool…so pipe down.
We all know a lot of these kids won’t be superstars but I assure you, if your child only plays rec until 7th or 8th grade, he/she will be behind. Fact! Doesn’t mean they won’t succeed, doesn’t mean they aren’t athletic, but others will be better/ahead.
If you are content w your child playing varsity maybe junior yr, most likely senior year, kudos, because that’s exactly what he’ll/she’ll be doing.
Also, this may be hard for you to grasp but some children love the sport, love the competitiveness, loves the rivalries and the friendships they’ve made through all this, I know mine does.
So get off your high horse; you’re not a better parent cuz you don’t push your child.


Too bad this is anonymous- if not - we could follow your son and all the amazing things he will do in 5th grade and beyond.

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Shoot me your name and contact info and I’ll send you his practice/game schedule…

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This is hilarious to watch. By posts - my guess - hawks 2030- dad on sideline yelling who never played lacrosse.

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My guess - madlax dad- never played lacrosse

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True handed opened up a can of real Azz kicking on the HAWKS today. WOW have we really climbed the ladder that much so quick? Or do they just BITE! They play the worst brand of Lacrosse out there. Big BAD Hogan LAX brand. Well fair to say that's in the toilet these days. We played well today. I must say we out coached them, wasn't hard either, Hawks talk a Bug game. Not today boys. True is the real deal. We own AA County. They need more coaches with kids. Thats why we left. Couldn't be happier True has a much better culture. We teach Lacrosse and we proved that today. Hogan Brand is DONE!

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True handed opened up a can of real Azz kicking on the HAWKS today. WOW have we really climbed the ladder that much so quick? Or do they just BITE! They play the worst brand of Lacrosse out there. Big BAD Hogan LAX brand. Well fair to say that's in the toilet these days. We played well today. I must say we out coached them, wasn't hard either, Hawks talk a Bug game. Not today boys. True is the real deal. We own AA County. They need more coaches with kids. Thats why we left. Couldn't be happier True has a much better culture. We teach Lacrosse and we proved that today. Hogan Brand is DONE!

Wait until they start flying in boys to replace yours 😂
It’s 5th grade…… glad your life is made on 1 game. It’s the great thing about lacrosse - any given day.

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True dad oldest kid is def his 5th grader. Sorry your kid got cut from Hawks, but it’s part of the process.

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Hawks had a VERY off day it looked like. Couldn’t catch and throw and come up with 50/50’s.
Another day, another result. Good coaches, athletes know, never hang your hat on one game.

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Hawks had a VERY off day it looked like. Couldn’t catch and throw and come up with 50/50’s.
Another day, another result. Good coaches, athletes know, never hang your hat on one game.

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Hawks had a VERY off day it looked like. Couldn’t catch and throw and come up with 50/50’s.
Another day, another result. Good coaches, athletes know, never hang your hat on one game.


Hawks were bad. Got out coached and out played. Hawks defense is Swiss queso. Hawks studs did a lot of leaning on their sticks it appeared. Maybe the birds just don't like the rain.

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Out played…yep. Out coached… no. Kids catching and throwing - not on the coach. Kids forcing a shot from outside - not on the coach. Coaches calling in what needs to be done….kids doing opposite - not on the coach.

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Out played…yep. Out coached… no. Kids catching and throwing - not on the coach. Kids forcing a shot from outside - not on the coach. Coaches calling in what needs to be done….kids doing opposite - not on the coach.
You guys are all absurd. These kids are 11 get a grip. Keep getting better, try to keep up with the new kids that arrive with puberty.

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True handed opened up a can of real Azz kicking on the HAWKS today. WOW have we really climbed the ladder that much so quick? Or do they just BITE! They play the worst brand of Lacrosse out there. Big BAD Hogan LAX brand. Well fair to say that's in the toilet these days. We played well today. I must say we out coached them, wasn't hard either, Hawks talk a Bug game. Not today boys. True is the real deal. We own AA County. They need more coaches with kids. Thats why we left. Couldn't be happier True has a much better culture. We teach Lacrosse and we proved that today. Hogan Brand is DONE!


Ha ha ha 2 people left Hawks that are on True. Isn’t hard to figure out who wrote this. Also not sure if you noticed but both sidelines, both coaching staffs - have their kids on the team. Would be hard to throw a dart in Maryland where this isn’t the case. Great argument though 😂

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What's going on with Coach Kelly and FCA 2030's?? Another year without a win?? Not enough time for the 2030's during the spring with high school lacrosse going on. Hearing lots of grumblings from parents.......................

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What's going on with Coach Kelly and FCA 2030's?? Another year without a win?? Not enough time for the 2030's during the spring with high school lacrosse going on. Hearing lots of grumblings from parents.......................

Seems weird Coach Kelly would be preoccupied with his MIAA team

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What's going on with Coach Kelly and FCA 2030's?? Another year without a win?? Not enough time for the 2030's during the spring with high school lacrosse going on. Hearing lots of grumblings from parents.......................


Don’t worry they will bring in the reclasses soon. Those grumbling parents might have to find a new team anyway when the FCA reclass process kicks in.

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What's going on with Coach Kelly and FCA 2030's?? Another year without a win?? Not enough time for the 2030's during the spring with high school lacrosse going on. Hearing lots of grumblings from parents.......................

Written like a true Madlax parent as they headed into the game this past weekend. UH OH....what happened?

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Summer tournaments coming up time for the hawks to cut the dead weight on the team. Hold another tryout.

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Summer tournaments coming up time for the hawks to cut the dead weight on the team. Hold another tryout.

Will there be a coaching change?

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Summer tournaments coming up time for the hawks to cut the dead weight on the team. Hold another tryout.

Start with st Mary’s kids

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Summer tournaments coming up time for the hawks to cut the dead weight on the team. Hold another tryout.

Will there be a coaching change?


Why? Judging by what I’ve seen on the few games I’ve been to, the bigger issue is the parents not the coaches.

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Summer tournaments coming up time for the hawks to cut the dead weight on the team. Hold another tryout.

Will there be a coaching change?


Why? Judging by what I’ve seen on the few games I’ve been to, the bigger issue is the parents not the coaches.

Good start with parents yes. Blonde mom first to go.

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Summer tournaments coming up time for the hawks to cut the dead weight on the team. Hold another tryout.

Will there be a coaching change?


Why? Judging by what I’ve seen on the few games I’ve been to, the bigger issue is the parents not the coaches.

No playoffs. almost losing to team 91.

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Lots of coaches are out there - you don’t like it, go find a coach you want and go there. Life is full of choices. Grass is not always greener and may require self reflection instead of blame.

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Just don’t go to Gilman !! Coach is an [Censored] and has no ability to coach.

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What's going on with Coach Kelly and FCA 2030's?? Another year without a win?? Not enough time for the 2030's during the spring with high school lacrosse going on. Hearing lots of grumblings from parents.......................


Parents actually believe FCA gives their kid a better chance at CH?
FCA is an afterthought for the CH staff.

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Summer tournaments coming up time for the hawks to cut the dead weight on the team. Hold another tryout.

Will there be a coaching change?


Why? Judging by what I’ve seen on the few games I’ve been to, the bigger issue is the parents not the coaches.

Good start with parents yes. Blonde mom first to go.

Hopefully she stays home this weekend lots of drama

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Summer tournaments coming up time for the hawks to cut the dead weight on the team. Hold another tryout.

What position is the hawks most in need of?

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Summer tournaments coming up time for the hawks to cut the dead weight on the team. Hold another tryout.

What position is the hawks most in need of?

FOGO and Goalie

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Summer tournaments coming up time for the hawks to cut the dead weight on the team. Hold another tryout.

Will there be a coaching change?


Why? Judging by what I’ve seen on the few games I’ve been to, the bigger issue is the parents not the coaches.

Good start with parents yes. Blonde mom first to go.

Hopefully she stays home this weekend lots of drama

Tons of blonde moms on that team- be more specific

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I am new to this blog and travel lacrosse. Who are the top 3-4 teams in Maryland club lax?

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By any objective measure Hawks and Next Level are the clear top 2. After that there are really a group of 3: FCA, Team 91 MD and Crabs. Lots of quality clubs after that which may be a better option depending on where you live and what your goals are.

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By any objective measure Hawks and Next Level are the clear top 2. After that there are really a group of 3: FCA, Team 91 MD and Crabs. Lots of quality clubs after that which may be a better option depending on where you live and what your goals are.


Ughhhhh BLC is by far the best around and years above NL and Hawks. Crabs closest team to them.

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What's going on with Coach Kelly and FCA 2030's?? Another year without a win?? Not enough time for the 2030's during the spring with high school lacrosse going on. Hearing lots of grumblings from parents.......................


Parents actually believe FCA gives their kid a better chance at CH?
FCA is an afterthought for the CH staff.

the sales pitch is literally "we'll have you ready for varsity in 9th "

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What is happening at the NAL at Kirkwood? Bethesda LC looks unstoppable. What happened to the Hawks and Crabs?

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Sorry to correct you, but 3 kids left Hawks, only one went to True, the other 2 went to ProStart. So there’s that.

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Are there any clubs out there that don’t have dad coaches at this age? So sick of the daddy ball, buddy ball, neighbor ball, nephew ball, etc.

I’d be willing to shell out even more of my hard earned cash to pay a real coach. Hint hint to any club owners/directors out there.

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Hawks looked weak, too much hero ball.
Only two teams to give BLC a real test were Duke’s Elite and BBL.
BLC plays true team ball, moves well, great on ground balls…impressive to watch at this age

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Hawks looked weak, too much hero ball.
Only two teams to give BLC a real test were Duke’s Elite and BBL.
BLC plays true team ball, moves well, great on ground balls…impressive to watch at this age

Yes about hawks and the drama on the sideline with parents.

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Summer tournaments coming up time for the hawks to cut the dead weight on the team. Hold another tryout.

Will there be a coaching change?


Why? Judging by what I’ve seen on the few games I’ve been to, the bigger issue is the parents not the coaches.

Good start with parents yes. Blonde mom first to go.

Hopefully she stays home this weekend lots of drama

Please stay home and nobody cares about st Mary’s

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Hawks looked weak, too much hero ball.
Only two teams to give BLC a real test were Duke’s Elite and BBL.
BLC plays true team ball, moves well, great on ground balls…impressive to watch at this age

BLC will need to upgrade at goalie soon before teams catch up!!!

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Don’t look in AA County! doesn’t matter the level or how long the program has been around they ALL play daddy ball. If even one of these clubs wisened up and brought in a real coach who truly had the teams best interest and not their own kids best interest at heart, their team would dominate!

I’ve seen so many games lost over the years because dad coaches can’t see past their own kids and end up screwing everyone. They’d rather lose with their kids getting the majority of playing time than win with their kids on the bench where some of them belong. It’s in every sport I’m every town USA. But nothing will change until Club owners/directors do something about it,

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How much religion is infused in FCA? Realize it’s an “elite” club but curious about that aspect.
Some the coaches have high school sit in groups and do "huddles" where they talk about religious stuff. I am not really religious at all and I don't mind it. My son actually loves it and they are one of the only teams that incorporate high school kids in their practices. In this age group FCA is not elite they went 0 -6 in the AAA hoco league. I am sure they will get better since in a year of 2.

They actually went 2-5 in Elite not AAA beating Madlax and Team 91. They also just won back to back tournaments.

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Tell me more about FCA. Do their coaches and directors have any integrity, unlike those in AA County?

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Tell me more about FCA. Do their coaches and directors have any integrity, unlike those in AA County?

LOL, Im not sure which coach benched/cut your kid in AA County but im sure it was well deserved. You aren't doing them any favors preparing for life.

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the Naptown 2023 tournament in Maryland is a couple days away. There are a ton of "National" teams. Does anyone have a scouting report on any of those teams?

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Hawks looked weak, too much hero ball.
Only two teams to give BLC a real test were Duke’s Elite and BBL.
BLC plays true team ball, moves well, great on ground balls…impressive to watch at this age

BLC will need to upgrade at goalie soon before teams catch up!!!
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BLC looked really strong at Great8, but went down to 2Way in ‘Chip. It was a battle
I heard a few of their boys are playing down at Naptown this week w Premier Nationals…

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Hawks lost 9-1 daddy ball has caught up to them

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Hawks lost 2 more times after that…

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Hawks lost 2 more times after that…

Time to blow up the hawks team and rebuild.

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Hawks lost 2 more times after that…

Time to blow up the hawks team and rebuild.
Lots of talent what to make the move to the Hawks but no one wants to play for that coaching staff

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Hawks lost 2 more times after that…

Time to blow up the hawks team and rebuild.
Lots of talent what to make the move to the Hawks but no one wants to play for that coaching staff

Yes all the negative people have to go. They are a great team when the kids can block out their dads voices on side and follow the coaching. Catching, throwing and work ethic have zero to do with the coaches.

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Hawks lost 2 more times after that…

Time to blow up the hawks team and rebuild.

Worst performance by a hawks team since naptown started embarrassing for the whole organization. Just not any talent on the team know matter who coaches the team. Come next tryouts this team will look a lot different according to hogan. Better start looking elsewhere now no spots are guaranteed.

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Hawks lost 2 more times after that…

Time to blow up the hawks team and rebuild.

Worst performance by a hawks team since naptown started embarrassing for the whole organization. Just not any talent on the team know matter who coaches the team. Come next tryouts this team will look a lot different according to hogan. Better start looking elsewhere now no spots are guaranteed.


[Censored] up…. Check your house first

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The little man over at Next Level strikes again. Poor BLC, they develop the talent and Next level poaches away.

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Hawks lost 2 more times after that…

Time to blow up the hawks team and rebuild.

Worst performance by a hawks team since naptown started embarrassing for the whole organization. Just not any talent on the team know matter who coaches the team. Come next tryouts this team will look a lot different according to hogan. Better start looking elsewhere now no spots are guaranteed.

St Mary’s parents drama makes it worst.

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Hawks lost 2 more times after that…

Time to blow up the hawks team and rebuild.

Worst performance by a hawks team since naptown started embarrassing for the whole organization. Just not any talent on the team know matter who coaches the team. Come next tryouts this team will look a lot different according to hogan. Better start looking elsewhere now no spots are guaranteed.

St Mary’s parents drama makes it worst.

Hawks had their time in the Sun. Its Over ! . Hawks are not what they used to be and are now like any Club USA, Little Loyalty ,Some teams decent, others ok to worst and the owners pulling in the money along with Daddy Ball everywhere....

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Hawks lost 2 more times after that…

Time to blow up the hawks team and rebuild.

Worst performance by a hawks team since naptown started embarrassing for the whole organization. Just not any talent on the team know matter who coaches the team. Come next tryouts this team will look a lot different according to hogan. Better start looking elsewhere now no spots are guaranteed.

St Mary’s parents drama makes it worst.

Hawks had their time in the Sun. Its Over ! . Hawks are not what they used to be and are now like any Club USA, Little Loyalty ,Some teams decent, others ok to worst and the owners pulling in the money along with Daddy Ball everywhere....


Always some other very sketchy club coach trying to stir up drama. It’s actually sad, feel terrible for those kids and his son ( dad coaches are everywhere).

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Hawks lost 2 more times after that…

Time to blow up the hawks team and rebuild.

Worst performance by a hawks team since naptown started embarrassing for the whole organization. Just not any talent on the team know matter who coaches the team. Come next tryouts this team will look a lot different according to hogan. Better start looking elsewhere now no spots are guaranteed.

St Mary’s parents drama makes it worst.

Hawks had their time in the Sun. Its Over ! . Hawks are not what they used to be and are now like any Club USA, Little Loyalty ,Some teams decent, others ok to worst and the owners pulling in the money along with Daddy Ball everywhere....


Always some other very sketchy club coach trying to stir up drama. It’s actually sad, feel terrible for those kids and his son ( dad coaches are everywhere).

Correct on Daddy ball, And Hawks are just like them along with other aspects of all Clubs ? Not sure where we disagree . Dont be so sensitive sam.

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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

Will they pick up a few from NL? Or will the current NL team be the B team?

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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

Will they pick up a few from NL? Or will the current NL team be the B team?

I would assume there would be tryouts as they’ve advertised. All players should have a fair shot at tryouts, yes?? Unless NL has made some backdoor deal with BLC coaches to take over the team as they see fit?!?!

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The little man over at Next Level strikes again. Poor BLC, they develop the talent and Next level poaches away.
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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

Will they pick up a few from NL? Or will the current NL team be the B team?

I would assume there would be tryouts as they’ve advertised. All players should have a fair shot at tryouts, yes?? Unless NL has made some backdoor deal with BLC coaches to take over the team as they see fit?!?!

Will there be a tryout? Yes! Will there be a fair shot? Not for every position! If you are a current NL player and make the team you will have to look at who from BLC will be at that position. If you are even that BLC player, you will not see the field. If are better than that player then you have a shot at seeing the field. BLC players will have a longer leash than current NL players. If you make the second team, it is a money grab. Do not be fooled. It will be a team of cash cows. Don't get [Censored] into the second team. Just find another team that will also play in the HOCO elite division.

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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

I find it hard to believe that NL is going to be able to convince a lot of BLC players to switch. The BLC team is far better than the NL team and I don't know why BLC parents would want to move over to NL.

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The little man over at Next Level strikes again. Poor BLC, they develop the talent and Next level poaches away.
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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

Will they pick up a few from NL? Or will the current NL team be the B team?

I would assume there would be tryouts as they’ve advertised. All players should have a fair shot at tryouts, yes?? Unless NL has made some backdoor deal with BLC coaches to take over the team as they see fit?!?!

Will there be a tryout? Yes! Will there be a fair shot? Not for every position! If you are a current NL player and make the team you will have to look at who from BLC will be at that position. If you are even that BLC player, you will not see the field. If are better than that player then you have a shot at seeing the field. BLC players will have a longer leash than current NL players. If you make the second team, it is a money grab. Do not be fooled. It will be a team of cash cows. Don't get [Censored] into the second team. Just find another team that will also play in the HOCO elite division.

Any word on who will replace the coaching staff at BLC? If BLC is smart, they would bring someone from DC Express to run that team. There are still good players to be had. Lots of folks are on the fence on where they will end up. BLC.... Consider Free tryouts for this age group to combat the Next Level takeover!!! People...... Don't forget BLC/DCE won the naptown tourney. Not one team from Next Level won in any age group!

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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

I find it hard to believe that NL is going to be able to convince a lot of BLC players to switch. The BLC team is far better than the NL team and I don't know why BLC parents would want to move over to NL.

Hahaha! Have you been under rock? The BLC coaching staff is moving to NL and bring over half the team.

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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

I find it hard to believe that NL is going to be able to convince a lot of BLC players to switch. The BLC team is far better than the NL team and I don't know why BLC parents would want to move over to NL.

Hahaha! Have you been under rock? The BLC coaching staff is moving to NL and bring over half the team.

Why wouldn't the BLC coaches stay there and just pick off whatever NL kids they want? The BLC team has barely lost any games since they started playing together. Seems weird for the coaches to upend all of that success for the sake of joining a NL team that's way behind.

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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

I find it hard to believe that NL is going to be able to convince a lot of BLC players to switch. The BLC team is far better than the NL team and I don't know why BLC parents would want to move over to NL.

Hahaha! Have you been under rock? The BLC coaching staff is moving to NL and bring over half the team.

Why wouldn't the BLC coaches stay there and just pick off whatever NL kids they want? The BLC team has barely lost any games since they started playing together. Seems weird for the coaches to upend all of that success for the sake of joining a NL team that's way behind.

That is the million dollar question. NL parents were notified a couple of days ago about the change.

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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

I find it hard to believe that NL is going to be able to convince a lot of BLC players to switch. The BLC team is far better than the NL team and I don't know why BLC parents would want to move over to NL.

Hahaha! Have you been under rock? The BLC coaching staff is moving to NL and bring over half the team.

Why wouldn't the BLC coaches stay there and just pick off whatever NL kids they want? The BLC team has barely lost any games since they started playing together. Seems weird for the coaches to upend all of that success for the sake of joining a NL team that's way behind.

Egos! They want to coach there kids all throughout high school. DCE will take over at some point. DCE will not allow daddy coaches!

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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

I find it hard to believe that NL is going to be able to convince a lot of BLC players to switch. The BLC team is far better than the NL team and I don't know why BLC parents would want to move over to NL.

Hahaha! Have you been under rock? The BLC coaching staff is moving to NL and bring over half the team.

Why wouldn't the BLC coaches stay there and just pick off whatever NL kids they want? The BLC team has barely lost any games since they started playing together. Seems weird for the coaches to upend all of that success for the sake of joining a NL team that's way behind.

That is the million dollar question. NL parents were notified a couple of days ago about the change.

That’s rough. I’d assume that if you’re not among the top handful of NL players on the team you need to start looking at other teams right? This is the second BLC team to implode and move over to NL in the past year.

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Easily 6-8 NL players over all positions will make that team. Those kids are tough and talented. Reality check coming for those with the comments about them being ‘far behind’.

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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

I find it hard to believe that NL is going to be able to convince a lot of BLC players to switch. The BLC team is far better than the NL team and I don't know why BLC parents would want to move over to NL.

Hahaha! Have you been under rock? The BLC coaching staff is moving to NL and bring over half the team.

Why wouldn't the BLC coaches stay there and just pick off whatever NL kids they want? The BLC team has barely lost any games since they started playing together. Seems weird for the coaches to upend all of that success for the sake of joining a NL team that's way behind.

That is the million dollar question. NL parents were notified a couple of days ago about the change.

Can your share more about what exactly was said to the NL parents? Curious how this was exactly messaged.

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The little man over at Next Level strikes again. Poor BLC, they develop the talent and Next level poaches away.
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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

I find it hard to believe that NL is going to be able to convince a lot of BLC players to switch. The BLC team is far better than the NL team and I don't know why BLC parents would want to move over to NL.

Hahaha! Have you been under rock? The BLC coaching staff is moving to NL and bring over half the team.

Why wouldn't the BLC coaches stay there and just pick off whatever NL kids they want? The BLC team has barely lost any games since they started playing together. Seems weird for the coaches to upend all of that success for the sake of joining a NL team that's way behind.

That is the million dollar question. NL parents were notified a couple of days ago about the change.

Can your share more about what exactly was said to the NL parents? Curious how this was exactly messaged.

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The little man over at Next Level strikes again. Poor BLC, they develop the talent and Next level poaches away.
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NL is convincing BLC players to make the switch. The whole 2030 BLC team is moving over to NL to include coaches. Second straight year this has happen.

I find it hard to believe that NL is going to be able to convince a lot of BLC players to switch. The BLC team is far better than the NL team and I don't know why BLC parents would want to move over to NL.

Hahaha! Have you been under rock? The BLC coaching staff is moving to NL and bring over half the team.

Why wouldn't the BLC coaches stay there and just pick off whatever NL kids they want? The BLC team has barely lost any games since they started playing together. Seems weird for the coaches to upend all of that success for the sake of joining a NL team that's way behind.

That is the million dollar question. NL parents were notified a couple of days ago about the change.

Can your share more about what exactly was said to the NL parents? Curious how this was exactly messaged.

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BLC announced a new coach for the 2030 team on their Instagram - the current head coach of Gtown Prep. Pretty impressive for a team that’s apparently imploding.

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BLC announced a new coach for the 2030 team on their Instagram - the current head coach of Gtown Prep. Pretty impressive for a team that’s apparently imploding.

Haha

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BLC announced a new coach for the 2030 team on their Instagram - the current head coach of Gtown Prep. Pretty impressive for a team that’s apparently imploding.

Haha

Looks like someone will be moving to another club.

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BLC announced a new coach for the 2030 team on their Instagram - the current head coach of Gtown Prep. Pretty impressive for a team that’s apparently imploding.

Haha

Looks like someone will be moving to another club.

Well Played BLC! Well Played!!!

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Hawks are a dumpster fire.

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