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Re: Girls 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
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New to BOC but wanted to provide some thoughts since I already had a couple of daughters go through this time period and college recruiting process.

1. Girls change (duh). Some dominate players will become just ok by high school, some ok players will become dominate by high school, some girls will quit lax and focus on soccer/field hockey

2. Team rosters will change dramatically until around 9th even 10th grade. Rankings don't mean to much until fall of 10th grade, recruiters will show up for top tier games (M&D vs Heroes, YJ LI vs. SW Blue, Monster Purple vs. FL Select, etc) For example, at Presidents cup you will see 10-20 coaches at the AA games, 5-10 at A games, 1-5 at B games

3. College coaches will pay really attention starting in fall of 10th grade...again...they don't care about middle school at all. (not even a little bit)

4. College coaches all ask the same questions. a. How are their grades? b. Is she coachable? c. How are the parents (they already know if the girl can play)

5. College coaches don't care about the score of the game or who won. Recruiters are looking at the skill set, body type and look for intangibles. (hustle, attitude, etc)

Final thoughts, don't ruin the sport for your kid. Being 12-14 is hard enough with social media, puberty, middle school, boys, sports, etc...ensure your daughter know you love her, support her and want her to learn the intangibles of the sport. Learn how to win, lose, be a good teammate, deal with adversity, etc.

The parents are the ones who will ruin the sport for the kid (they will resent you or be embarrassed by you)...don't be that mom or dad.


Well said. I will add one point to #3. The only thing about middle school that coaches care about is if a girls frequently switches club. If a girl has been on 3 or 4 clubs in 5 years, that is a MASSIVE red flag.


Generally, anything more than 2 team switches (maybe 3 if they started really young) would set off some warning flares.

10/10 times its the parents and they have unrealistic expectations.

Feel awful for the kid, they likely have an awful car ride to/from every game and practice

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Re: Girls 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
Anonymous #363566 01/21/22 10:38 AM
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[quote=Anonymous]They updated the club rankings yesterday, not that only fall games can really be accurate heres my take (cause its a long time before meaningful games again)

1) M&D Black
2) Madskillz
3) Eagle Stix Blue
4) Hero’s Green
5) Prime Time
6) Yellow Jackets – Gradzidei
7) Aces Elite
8) FLG Navy
9) Pride Red
10) BLC

Eaglestix should be the top team. No losses and only tie to YJ A.
M&D Black and Madskillz 2-3.

To be the best you gotta beat the best consistently. Eagle Stix can’t be #1 playing weak southern Tournies.

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Anonymous #363570 01/21/22 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]They updated the club rankings yesterday, not that only fall games can really be accurate heres my take (cause its a long time before meaningful games again)

1) M&D Black
2) Madskillz
3) Eagle Stix Blue
4) Hero’s Green
5) Prime Time
6) Yellow Jackets – Gradzidei
7) Aces Elite
8) FLG Navy
9) Pride Red
10) BLC

Eaglestix should be the top team. No losses and only tie to YJ A.
M&D Black and Madskillz 2-3.

To be the best you gotta beat the best consistently. Eagle Stix can’t be #1 playing weak southern Tournies.

They played five fall tournaments, 1 in MD, 1 in NJ and 1 in NY. They play in all the summer tournaments up in MD/DE/NJ/PA like the rest.

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Anonymous #363578 01/21/22 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]They updated the club rankings yesterday, not that only fall games can really be accurate heres my take (cause its a long time before meaningful games again)

1) M&D Black
2) Madskillz
3) Eagle Stix Blue
4) Hero’s Green
5) Prime Time
6) Yellow Jackets – Gradzidei
7) Aces Elite
8) FLG Navy
9) Pride Red
10) BLC

Eaglestix should be the top team. No losses and only tie to YJ A.
M&D Black and Madskillz 2-3.

Not sure how you put Prime Time over YJ A or Aces , but the rest makes sense. I'd put Eagle Stix over Madskillz, but eventually they will play.


I'd go

1) MD Black
2) ES Blue
3) Madskills
4) HG
5) YJ A
6) Aces Elite
7) Prime time
8) Pride
9) BLC
10) YJ B



That said just based on the eye test, I think YJ A is probably the most talented team, but just doesn't seem together on the offensive end. Wouldn't be surprised if they end the year #1.

From top to bottom, M&D is clearly the top team due to ridiculous talent on bench. However, that advantage will go away in the summer when most teams go to 14-16 girl rotations.

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Anonymous #363581 01/21/22 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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[quote=Anonymous]They updated the club rankings yesterday, not that only fall games can really be accurate heres my take (cause its a long time before meaningful games again)

1) M&D Black
2) Madskillz
3) Eagle Stix Blue
4) Hero’s Green
5) Prime Time
6) Yellow Jackets – Gradzidei
7) Aces Elite
8) FLG Navy
9) Pride Red
10) BLC

Eaglestix should be the top team. No losses and only tie to YJ A.
M&D Black and Madskillz 2-3.

To be the best you gotta beat the best consistently. Eagle Stix can’t be #1 playing weak southern Tournies.

They played five fall tournaments, 1 in MD, 1 in NJ and 1 in NY. They play in all the summer tournaments up in MD/DE/NJ/PA like the rest.

M&D and Eagle Stix. 1 and 2. Either order really nothing to complain about. Both are really really good. We've had the pleasure of playing both and they are both great teams.

Eagle Stix will probably be up north a bunch more than before. Since that's where the bigger tournaments are.

Rankings will be constantly revolving

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Re: Girls 2027 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
Anonymous #363589 01/21/22 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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[quote=Anonymous]They updated the club rankings yesterday, not that only fall games can really be accurate heres my take (cause its a long time before meaningful games again)

1) M&D Black
2) Madskillz
3) Eagle Stix Blue
4) Hero’s Green
5) Prime Time
6) Yellow Jackets – Gradzidei
7) Aces Elite
8) FLG Navy
9) Pride Red
10) BLC

Eaglestix should be the top team. No losses and only tie to YJ A.
M&D Black and Madskillz 2-3.

To be the best you gotta beat the best consistently. Eagle Stix can’t be #1 playing weak southern Tournies.

They played five fall tournaments, 1 in MD, 1 in NJ and 1 in NY. They play in all the summer tournaments up in MD/DE/NJ/PA like the rest.

I have a feeling one of the biggest factors in the ranking system is strength of schedule. If you see a team who's schedule is under 90, they probably aren't playing difficult competition.

If you look at Hero's, M&D, Aces...teams like that, they are usually by year end in thr 95 range in the schedule difficulty area.

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Anonymous #363613 01/21/22 02:31 PM
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[quote=Anonymous]They updated the club rankings yesterday, not that only fall games can really be accurate heres my take (cause its a long time before meaningful games again)

1) M&D Black
2) Madskillz
3) Eagle Stix Blue
4) Hero’s Green
5) Prime Time
6) Yellow Jackets – Gradzidei
7) Aces Elite
8) FLG Navy
9) Pride Red
10) BLC

Eaglestix should be the top team. No losses and only tie to YJ A.
M&D Black and Madskillz 2-3.

To be the best you gotta beat the best consistently. Eagle Stix can’t be #1 playing weak southern Tournies.

They played five fall tournaments, 1 in MD, 1 in NJ and 1 in NY. They play in all the summer tournaments up in MD/DE/NJ/PA like the rest.

I have a feeling one of the biggest factors in the ranking system is strength of schedule. If you see a team who's schedule is under 90, they probably aren't playing difficult competition.

If you look at Hero's, M&D, Aces...teams like that, they are usually by year end in thr 95 range in the schedule difficulty area.

Agreed, and as the best teams advance in playoffs, championships, they also get more games against top teams.

If you go to the "rating math" tab you can see how many pts were earned for each game.

Example, M&D got 104.32 pts for blowing out Pride Red 14-3. Blow outs are key.

That game was worth more than beating Hero's Green 6-3 (100.33) and Madskillz 9-4 (102.74)

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Take the rankings with a grain of salt. They update sometimes, not others. They weigh some things higher, somethings less. You’ll know top teams and where they’re at when you see them play.

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Anonymous #363649 01/21/22 06:20 PM
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Take the rankings with a grain of salt. They update sometimes, not others. They weigh some things higher, somethings less. You’ll know top teams and where they’re at when you see them play.

I thought at end of summer, after 35-40 games played, they were darn accurate.

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Maybe this is the year somebody knocks M&D ( and to some extent Hero's) off the top of the rankings in the DMV.

LBC or Pride or BLC.

Those 2 teams are good. But the others are catching up. Maybe somebody sneaky like NEMS. anything can happen.

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Anonymous #363724 01/22/22 09:31 PM
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Pipe dreams

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Pipe dreams

Seriously. Did BLC and LBC hire PR firms to post on here?

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Anonymous #363739 01/23/22 12:57 AM
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[quote=Anonymous]They updated the club rankings yesterday, not that only fall games can really be accurate heres my take (cause its a long time before meaningful games again)

1) M&D Black
2) Madskillz
3) Eagle Stix Blue
4) Hero’s Green
5) Prime Time
6) Yellow Jackets – Gradzidei
7) Aces Elite
8) FLG Navy
9) Pride Red
10) BLC

Eaglestix should be the top team. No losses and only tie to YJ A.
M&D Black and Madskillz 2-3.


From top to bottom, M&D is clearly the top team due to ridiculous talent on bench. However, that advantage will go away in the summer when most teams go to 14-16 girl rotations.

Here’s a hot take, M&D doesn’t have great depth. There’s a big drop in talent, especially attack after their starters, I’ve seen it many times, even M&D parents say it.

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Anonymous #363742 01/23/22 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]They updated the club rankings yesterday, not that only fall games can really be accurate heres my take (cause its a long time before meaningful games again)

1) M&D Black
2) Madskillz
3) Eagle Stix Blue
4) Hero’s Green
5) Prime Time
6) Yellow Jackets – Gradzidei
7) Aces Elite
8) FLG Navy
9) Pride Red
10) BLC

Eaglestix should be the top team. No losses and only tie to YJ A.
M&D Black and Madskillz 2-3.


From top to bottom, M&D is clearly the top team due to ridiculous talent on bench. However, that advantage will go away in the summer when most teams go to 14-16 girl rotations.

Here’s a hot take, M&D doesn’t have great depth. There’s a big drop in talent, especially attack after their starters, I’ve seen it many times, even M&D parents say it.

I'm sure the parents do. Lol

Maybe that was the case last year when they had like 27 girls. But I assume (like every top team) they thinned out the least talented and added better talent. Looking at the roster it seems smaller

They are fun to play. My daughter has friends on that team. We've never heard any chatter. But who knows.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe this is the year somebody knocks M&D ( and to some extent Hero's) off the top of the rankings in the DMV.

LBC or Pride or BLC.

Those 2 teams are good. But the others are catching up. Maybe somebody sneaky like NEMS. anything can happen.
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Pipe dreams

Seriously. Did BLC and LBC hire PR firms to post on here?

More likely parents having too much to drink and surfing the web late at night. BLC has had a big drop from previous seasons from what I saw this fall and lost some key players because of frustration with the coaches.

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