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Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
DMVLAX #363370 01/19/22 03:33 PM
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Since we are talking AA here is my guess for Spring Hoco:

True DC(Lost some kids to Next Level and added the bottom kids from HoCo Pink/Black)
Preds (New team: Mostly FCA white/blue send-offs, KP, HoCo Pink 2 best players, Forest Hill Stud goalie)
Team 91 (They don't belong in AAA, mostly same team, Swarm and HoCo Pink additions)
Next Level Red (New team: 1 or 2 studs should carry the team; will be AAA next year)
Sidewinders (Same team?)
Ville (A few solid kids, great FO, mostly same kids)
True Annapolis White (Not much info)
Madlax DMV (Big difference between DMV and Madlax Elite team)
BLC Orange (Maybe? Should prob be A)

Championship: Team 91 vs Preds with Next Level making strong push.

Strong possibility they have a B division with a bunch of new teams. Up next....AAA.

True DC (their MoCo team) or True DMV if they create some "super" regional team?
My son who is on a b team asked why madlax DMV was ranked and the other 28 b teams arent I said because there a business and have such a big following they get more spotlight however Next level red Blc orange these teams and other b teams deserved to be ranked this is a year to finally see were these teams are they don't have to be top 50 but they should create a bigger list and add a b team list aswell

I think Hawks and FCA Black and White teams are ranked. I think there is a minimum # of games need to be ranked.

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Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
Anonymous #363374 01/19/22 03:44 PM
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Looks like most teams are registered for HoCo. Teams can still register but early bird deal is done.
So far:
Elite - 8
AAA - 8
AA - 5
A - 9
I would imagine there are 5-10 more teams that will sign up.

Don’t leave us hanging… 😀

Who is where?

Right?!
Not showing teams, only the amount of teams that have registered so far. There were 35 last year, minus HoCo Pink and Breakers and new teams are Preds, Next Level Red, Blue Claws B team, VLC, so probably more to sign up.

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Anonymous #363400 01/19/22 05:59 PM
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Looks like most teams are registered for HoCo. Teams can still register but early bird deal is done.
So far:
Elite - 8
AAA - 8
AA - 5
A - 9
I would imagine there are 5-10 more teams that will sign up.

The 8 for elite is interesting. Presumably that includes the 7 that played elite last year. Anyone know whether the other team is True KP or Blue Claws?

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TheBackOfTheCage #363412 01/19/22 07:50 PM
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Covid has very little to do with the talent missing from 29 class. It is a down year for the majority of on age players. Like Capitalism, the flow of goods ( holdbacks) will
fill this in soon.

This is somewhat true, but 2028 (on age) is a smaller class of lax kids in the DC/MD area also. Maybe 1/3 smaller than the 2026-2024 groups.

2028 has no Koopers team, no Breakers team, no Looneys team, and Kelly Post's B team folded to bring #s to True Baltimore, who couldn't put together a roster either. 2028 Predators is basically HoCo Pink (gone) plus several FCA and Crabs kids (honestly, all kids who historically would be at Looneys or Koopers now). 2028 Team91 is mostly kids from Swarm, with some HoCo Pink kids). Swarm just pulled up a bunch of rec kids for this year, they will drop to A or B in HoCo for 2028.

Some of it is just shuffling but it's simply not as many kids, or as some claim "there's too many clubs."

As for COVID, I think what we will all see is a talent gap erupting. The players who had resources and a work ethic during COVID and whose parents could support/remind/transport kids to lax events (aka "resources") are going to be just fine. That includes club resources, not canceling practices due to COVID shutdowns, kids having access to fields during shutdowns, skills coaches with access to outdoor turf, etc. And for lax, let's remember this includes academic success and performance. Your son may have a great BTB highlight video but if he has a 2.9 GPA he is not playing for Maryland. Period. And so many kids are one or even two grades behind at this point (nobody really wants to discuss this). That will work out fine (in time) for attending Towson or Mason or JMU but not for getting admitted to many D1 schools (basic admissions).

I think we are already seeing that kids who wanted to work out and travel for lax during COVID, and whose parents could support it, did, and they will be just fine. I think that all the rec kids, and the rec kids who usually start showing up at club at 5th and 6th grade, are not going to develop fast enough to be a real presence for middle school lax at least. Whether those kids will buckle down and train and their parents can/will invest the resources for those kids to catch up.....I guess we will see.

And before anybody hits the "elitist" pearl clutch, it should not be controversial to say that - especially in lacrosse - access to good education, quality coaching, flexible and affluent parents, and good modeled behavior (aka the kids know elite HS and college players) are huge (and unfair) factors in success at most things.

Lots of good stuff there. I am not sure if this is more of the same for concern with Rec dying off, but seems like post-COVID there is more of a risk to Rec really suffering with the continued growth of Club teams. Maybe it'll bounce back some this spring, but at least where I am the vibe is NOT good. And then it seems like HoCo is going to be a scheduling conflict on Saturdays for a number of boys age levels.

Its okay fellas

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Anonymous #363425 01/19/22 10:35 PM
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Looks like most teams are registered for HoCo. Teams can still register but early bird deal is done.
So far:
Elite - 8
AAA - 8
AA - 5
A - 9
I would imagine there are 5-10 more teams that will sign up.
Assuming this is right— 30 teams in the Mid Atlantic…. Phenomenal for these boys. Incredible competition, win or lose, it says a lot about lacrosse on the Baltimore/DMV. If they consolidated these 30 teams into 3-4 top team like Long Island has, they’d never get touched. Even with this dilution (bad term, but it’s indicative of what happens with THIRTY teams), the mid Atlantic fields the two best teams in the country, and probably 3/4 of the top 10.

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TheBackOfTheCage #363426 01/19/22 10:40 PM
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That post was about as all over the place as possible.

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Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
Anonymous #363432 01/20/22 12:34 AM
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Looks like most teams are registered for HoCo. Teams can still register but early bird deal is done.
So far:
Elite - 8
AAA - 8
AA - 5
A - 9
I would imagine there are 5-10 more teams that will sign up.
Assuming this is right— 30 teams in the Mid Atlantic…. Phenomenal for these boys. Incredible competition, win or lose, it says a lot about lacrosse on the Baltimore/DMV. If they consolidated these 30 teams into 3-4 top team like Long Island has, they’d never get touched. Even with this dilution (bad term, but it’s indicative of what happens with THIRTY teams), the mid Atlantic fields the two best teams in the country, and probably 3/4 of the top 10.

Long Island does not consolidate unfortunately. But that doesn’t matter because you’re 13 and 14-year-old 28’s will probably still outperform our 11 and 12 year old 28’s.

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Anonymous #363479 01/20/22 12:31 PM
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Looks like most teams are registered for HoCo. Teams can still register but early bird deal is done.
So far:
Elite - 8
AAA - 8
AA - 5
A - 9
I would imagine there are 5-10 more teams that will sign up.
Assuming this is right— 30 teams in the Mid Atlantic…. Phenomenal for these boys. Incredible competition, win or lose, it says a lot about lacrosse on the Baltimore/DMV. If they consolidated these 30 teams into 3-4 top team like Long Island has, they’d never get touched. Even with this dilution (bad term, but it’s indicative of what happens with THIRTY teams), the mid Atlantic fields the two best teams in the country, and probably 3/4 of the top 10.

Long Island does not consolidate unfortunately. But that doesn’t matter because you’re 13 and 14-year-old 28’s will probably still outperform our 11 and 12 year old 28’s.

Umm Baltimore/DMV vs Long Island in size/population?? Joke

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Anonymous #363486 01/20/22 01:51 PM
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Looks like most teams are registered for HoCo. Teams can still register but early bird deal is done.
So far:
Elite - 8
AAA - 8
AA - 5
A - 9
I would imagine there are 5-10 more teams that will sign up.
Assuming this is right— 30 teams in the Mid Atlantic…. Phenomenal for these boys. Incredible competition, win or lose, it says a lot about lacrosse on the Baltimore/DMV. If they consolidated these 30 teams into 3-4 top team like Long Island has, they’d never get touched. Even with this dilution (bad term, but it’s indicative of what happens with THIRTY teams), the mid Atlantic fields the two best teams in the country, and probably 3/4 of the top 10.

Long Island does not consolidate unfortunately. But that doesn’t matter because you’re 13 and 14-year-old 28’s will probably still outperform our 11 and 12 year old 28’s.

Ummm yes they do. Everyone eventually feeds into LIE or 91. Maybe a few other programs, but not 30.
holdback argument doesn’t work either. Great excuse though.

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DMVLAX #363489 01/20/22 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DMVLAX
Covid has very little to do with the talent missing from 29 class. It is a down year for the majority of on age players. Like Capitalism, the flow of goods ( holdbacks) will
fill this in soon.

This is somewhat true, but 2028 (on age) is a smaller class of lax kids in the DC/MD area also. Maybe 1/3 smaller than the 2026-2024 groups.

2028 has no Koopers team, no Breakers team, no Looneys team, and Kelly Post's B team folded to bring #s to True Baltimore, who couldn't put together a roster either. 2028 Predators is basically HoCo Pink (gone) plus several FCA and Crabs kids (honestly, all kids who historically would be at Looneys or Koopers now). 2028 Team91 is mostly kids from Swarm, with some HoCo Pink kids). Swarm just pulled up a bunch of rec kids for this year, they will drop to A or B in HoCo for 2028.

Some of it is just shuffling but it's simply not as many kids, or as some claim "there's too many clubs."

As for COVID, I think what we will all see is a talent gap erupting. The players who had resources and a work ethic during COVID and whose parents could support/remind/transport kids to lax events (aka "resources") are going to be just fine. That includes club resources, not canceling practices due to COVID shutdowns, kids having access to fields during shutdowns, skills coaches with access to outdoor turf, etc. And for lax, let's remember this includes academic success and performance. Your son may have a great BTB highlight video but if he has a 2.9 GPA he is not playing for Maryland. Period. And so many kids are one or even two grades behind at this point (nobody really wants to discuss this). That will work out fine (in time) for attending Towson or Mason or JMU but not for getting admitted to many D1 schools (basic admissions).

I think we are already seeing that kids who wanted to work out and travel for lax during COVID, and whose parents could support it, did, and they will be just fine. I think that all the rec kids, and the rec kids who usually start showing up at club at 5th and 6th grade, are not going to develop fast enough to be a real presence for middle school lax at least. Whether those kids will buckle down and train and their parents can/will invest the resources for those kids to catch up.....I guess we will see.

And before anybody hits the "elitist" pearl clutch, it should not be controversial to say that - especially in lacrosse - access to good education, quality coaching, flexible and affluent parents, and good modeled behavior (aka the kids know elite HS and college players) are huge (and unfair) factors in success at most things.

Lots of good stuff there. I am not sure if this is more of the same for concern with Rec dying off, but seems like post-COVID there is more of a risk to Rec really suffering with the continued growth of Club teams. Maybe it'll bounce back some this spring, but at least where I am the vibe is NOT good. And then it seems like HoCo is going to be a scheduling conflict on Saturdays for a number of boys age levels.

Its okay fellas

Rec registration numbers in Baltimore County are flourishing this year. All are filled or at capacity. A few pprograms will have multiple teams at multiple ages.
Hearing good things up in Harford County too. But we shall see.

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Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
Anonymous #363514 01/20/22 06:27 PM
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A lot more people in the mid Atlantic region than on Long Island.

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Anonymous #363516 01/20/22 07:03 PM
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A lot more people in the mid Atlantic region than on Long Island.

Better lacrosse players too

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Anonymous #363519 01/20/22 07:54 PM
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A lot more people in the mid Atlantic region than on Long Island.

And our kids are actually good at lacrosse.

It's why LI never comes South to play- They're scared.

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Anonymous #363524 01/20/22 09:48 PM
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A lot more people in the mid Atlantic region than on Long Island.

And our kids are actually good at lacrosse.

It's why LI never comes South to play- They're scared.

Because our kids are a year younger. Be proud of your “elite” (older) teams.

LI vs anyone on age is a curbstomping.

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Anonymous #363526 01/20/22 09:57 PM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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