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Yes - had a lot at our 2023 game on Friday night!

IWLCARecruits (run by SportsRecruits). They just bought ConnectLax. All the same now.

not so sure. penn state and sb are very very weak academically. Lehigh is a real school[/quote]

My daughter would have 100% turned down Florida and PSU for Lehigh. She's committed to a top 20 high academic school. But Lehigh was very high on her list and not at all on her list?.... PSU, Florida, Stonybrook, Maryland, Syracuse...nowhere, because those are not her thing what-so-ever. Not everyone is looking for the same thing. She will play top 20 lax and get to the NCAAs every year, plus go to a great school. Win-win for her, but she would have absolutely chosen a lesser lax program for a high academic school.

Never heard of Quasi-Ivy! The NESCAC is often referred to as the Little Ivies.

Thi list out of the New England Clubs today.

CT GRIZZLIES
Number of commits: 18
Positional breakdown: 6 attackers, 6 midfielders, 4 defenders, 2 goalies
Local colleges: 4
Top 20 schools: 3

PRIMETIME
Number of Commits: 16
Positional Breakdown: 5 attackers, 5 midfielders, 3 defenders, 3 goalies
Local Colleges: 3
Top 20 Schools: 3

NH TOMAHAWKS
Number of commits: 5
Positional breakdown: 2 attackers, 1 midfielder, 1 defender, 1 goalie
Local colleges: 3
Top 20 schools: 1

MASS ELITE
Number of commits: 5
Positional breakdown: 2 attackers, 3 midfielders
Local colleges: 3
Top 20 schools: 3

SOUND LACROSSE
Number of commits: 4
Positional breakdown: 1 attacker, 1 midfielder, 1 defender, 1 goalie
Local colleges: 1
Top 20 schools: 0

GOLD STAR
Number of commits: 3
Positional breakdown: 2 attackers, 1 midfielder
Local colleges: 2
Top 20 schools: 2

Listen In wouldn’t tell my daughter to not commit to a school because it appears to be a immanent coaching change but to not take that in to consideration when you know it’s probable just seems dense.

My daughter would have 100% turned down Florida and PSU for Lehigh. She's committed to a top 20 high academic school. But Lehigh was very high on her list and not at all on her list?.... PSU, Florida, Stonybrook, Maryland, Syracuse...nowhere, because those are not her thing what-so-ever. Not everyone is looking for the same thing. She will play top 20 lax and get to the NCAAs every year, plus go to a great school. Win-win for her, but she would have absolutely chosen a lesser lax program for a high academic school.[/quote]


That’s great, but don’t leave out the facts that Florida is a much better academic school than Lehigh, and PSU is equal academically but much better on job placement. Both Florida and PSU are much stronger lax programs.

Wait...what. So your 23's and soon 24's meet with a college coach and one of your questions are is there "a immanent coaching change" going to happen here in 2+ years. And...... you, as a nobody parent seem to know a coaching change is probable. Soooo, where are the coaching changes happening in the next 2+ years. Please enlighten us, Geez cmon. You nuts on this BOTC thing have no clue and talk nonsense.

My daughter would have 100% turned down Florida and PSU for Lehigh. She's committed to a top 20 high academic school. But Lehigh was very high on her list and not at all on her list?.... PSU, Florida, Stonybrook, Maryland, Syracuse...nowhere, because those are not her thing what-so-ever. Not everyone is looking for the same thing. She will play top 20 lax and get to the NCAAs every year, plus go to a great school. Win-win for her, but she would have absolutely chosen a lesser lax program for a high academic school.[/quote]

Would have?

Lehigh is not a top 20 academic school and many people would never choose Lehigh over Penn State, Florida, Maryland or Syracuse (I would not put SBU in the same category). It’s about personal preference and there are many students as well as student athletes who want the education / athletic and overall college experience that you get at those schools.

As far as going to a Top 20 academic school that is terrific, congratulations.

14 of of the Top 20 schools have D1 women’s Lacrosse:

Princeton
Columbia
Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Penn
Duke
Hopkins
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Vanderbilt
Cornell
ND

Out of the above only 7 will likely go to the NCAA tournament every year.

Princeton
Stanford
Penn
Duke
Hopkins
Northwestern
Notre Dame

In my experience, the majority of players who get recruited by those 7 schools are not considering Lehigh. Lehigh is neither a top Lacrosse school or a top academic school.

The funny thing is that parents of players who go to Florida, PSU, Maryland, Syracuse usually seem genuinely happy and they don’t feel the need to justify their daughters decision. On the other hand, I have heard many times from parents of players who do not go to Top 20 lacrosse schools try to justify it by saying they prioritized academics that’s why they are at a school like Lehigh or even a DIII school. The reality is that if the player is a Top Tier player, there are plenty of high academic schools to go to.

It’s a self defense mechanism…. Some parents are simply not able to admit that their daughter is not considered a top tier recruit by the coaches at the best college programs.

Nothing wrong with Lehigh, it’s a good school as are Florida, PSU, MD, SBU and Syracuse.
But please stop trying to elevate Lehigh above them.

My daughter would have 100% turned down Florida and PSU for Lehigh. She's committed to a top 20 high academic school. But Lehigh was very high on her list and not at all on her list?.... PSU, Florida, Stonybrook, Maryland, Syracuse...nowhere, because those are not her thing what-so-ever. Not everyone is looking for the same thing. She will play top 20 lax and get to the NCAAs every year, plus go to a great school. Win-win for her, but she would have absolutely chosen a lesser lax program for a high academic school.[/quote]

Would have?

Lehigh is not a top 20 academic school and many people would never choose Lehigh over Penn State, Florida, Maryland or Syracuse (I would not put SBU in the same category). It’s about personal preference and there are many students as well as student athletes who want the education / athletic and overall college experience that you get at those schools.

As far as going to a Top 20 academic school that is terrific, congratulations.

14 of of the Top 20 schools have D1 women’s Lacrosse:

Princeton
Columbia
Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Penn
Duke
Hopkins
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Vanderbilt
Cornell
ND

Out of the above only 7 will likely go to the NCAA tournament every year.

Princeton
Stanford
Penn
Duke
Hopkins
Northwestern
Notre Dame

In my experience, the majority of players who get recruited by those 7 schools are not considering Lehigh. Lehigh is neither a top Lacrosse school or a top academic school.

The funny thing is that parents of players who go to Florida, PSU, Maryland, Syracuse usually seem genuinely happy and they don’t feel the need to justify their daughters decision. On the other hand, I have heard many times from parents of players who do not go to Top 20 lacrosse schools try to justify it by saying they prioritized academics that’s why they are at a school like Lehigh or even a DIII school. The reality is that if the player is a Top Tier player, there are plenty of high academic schools to go to.

It’s a self defense mechanism…. Some parents are simply not able to admit that their daughter is not considered a top tier recruit by the coaches at the best college programs.

Nothing wrong with Lehigh, it’s a good school as are Florida, PSU, MD, SBU and Syracuse.
But please stop trying to elevate Lehigh above them.[/quote]

They didn't say that their daughter chose Lehigh. They said it was very high on her list. They say she's going to a top 20 academic school (but they don't name it).

Baby Ivy's, Little Ivy's .... are terms people use to try to elevate the status of certain schools.

Regarding the comment that the UF coach is "on the hot seat"....I don't think that is an accurate assessment. UF already has a succession plan in place. My daughter opted to commit elsewhere but had nothing to do with any perceived coaching instability....we really enjoyed the staff and the experience, and they committed a great 2023 class.

"Public Ivies" include U of Cal, UVA, Michigan, UNC, William and Mary and Texas.

Again, nothing more than attempt to elevate the status of particular schools…

NESCAC and Public Ivies are certainly a tier below the Ivy League schools..